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Let me clear te air
Let me first clear the air. I do not like like you wrn. He constantly has issues with girls because he is an ass hole When it comes to hooking up with DR chicas he could not carry my jock. I buy gifts for girls I have talked to or seen on skype. When I feel I have good chemistry I use a gift they want and is in my budget to bait the trap. I often am the one who suggests bringing something they would like that is expensive in the DR but not so in the US. Why pay a casa working girl who is fucking every day 4000 pesos for an hour when you can have non or semi pro for 2 days for almost same price and screw on demand The girls I deal with want to be with me because they have a good time. When you have chemistry they do not try to leave early they try to stay longer. The sex is usually very good because they are trying to be on your good side and trying not to leave because they want to know you better and benefit from someone who treats them with respect.
If you are a jerk they want to get their money and run. I have read WRNX reports and it happens often with him. I am very tight with my cash trust me but I always get my monies worth. The sex is better and you can save money and time when you have a girl giving you GFE For those who have time to cultivate their chicas this method has provided me with some awesome experiences. I have never been stood up or scammed. I think because I spoil my girls and manipulate them to our mutual benefit. In closing when a girl tells you what she wants do not freak out use their wants to get what you want as well. Both parties are playing a game. Neither party has clean hands. Treat the girls well and you will be rewarded with some awesome times. The girls I meet like this do not ask for cash but I always provide them some expense money when they leave. I generally spend less money then when I am banging freelancers at 1500 pesos per pop There is no p4p appearance. I give travel money to get to my location and a small cash gift with the present they requested. 2000 to 4000 pesos based on how many days we are together when they leave. The girl has her self esteem because she was not treated like a puta. Banging young girls when you are almost 60 is going to cost. So get the best bang for your bucks.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1500157]The problem with this perspective is that it assumes the chica is going to look at getting gifts from a stranger in a positive and constructive light. Resulting in her supposedly being your pretend girlfriend for a few days.
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I agree. I understand this is a business but I think there's room to make a connection.
[QUOTE=OldKool;1500227]Treat the girls well and you will be rewarded with some awesome times.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=VicVeg; 1499955]I gave a trip report a few days ago, with no comments. Oh well.
I mentioned that I learned in Sosua that many of the Rumba girls are cutthroat. I took one out that was sweet in Rumbas and then when I got her to the hotel, she became all business: only Mish, had to beg for her to get on top, we agreed to 90 minutes, but she remembered only 60 minutes etc. Etc.
With chicks after that, I looked to see if they were willing to go to a 2nd bar with me. If I went slow, made them wait before runnning off to the hotel, and their attitude didn't deteriorate, then they might be a keeper.
I met mongers that said the same thing. Make them wait and the cutthroat ones will cut their losses and move onto the next guy.
What do you think?[/QUOTE]Your first mistake was begging her to do anything. You have to have the attitude like this is YOUR show and what you what far outweights her objections. When you go to a Subway restaurant do you have to beg them to make you the sandwich you want? No! So don't accept bullshit from these chicas.
Try to vet them out for at least 10-15 mins before going anywhere and be clear about what you want. No doggy style? Get out! No photos? Get out! Some girls are lazy and if they see a weak guy they'll take advantage so they won't have to work as hard. If she's going to change the agreement then let her know she won't be getting the same pay. Don't play their game and don't let them control the interaction, the minute they try something you have the punish them for it.
[QUOTE=OldKool;1500094]This is p4p not a dating site. If you buy a girl a cheap used phone or a tablet, how is it different from paying 3000 or 4000 pesos at a a SD casa for 2 hours. You can get way more value from the girl who asks for gifts and She may not be fucking guys every day. She will pretend to be your girl friend for a few days. Often the sex will improve with the comfort level of of knowing one another. Asking for gifts is not a game. It is the price of admission. You only have to know how to manage the exchange. We are looking for sex not love relationships. The girls are looking for material gain. Many girls do not see excepting gifts as prostitution and in their minds they are dating you and you are a generous suiter.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't talking about cheap though
If she's audacious enough to ask for the latest phone and tablet after a few emails then she needs to have a damn compelling reason why I should. Admittedly I'm not a big gift giver, I find you can get a better experience when you get her to do thing for you not the other way around.
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[quote=frannie; 1500224]dominican prostitutes are not licensed professionals or board certified sex therapists or surrogates. sometimes chicas will pull out all the stops for you if they like you, see you are a future important person in their life.
compare this with the women who advertise themselves in places like backpage. com and i think most guys would agree that the chicas of sosua win hands down.[/quote]i entirely agree.
1) my very first time visit to sosua, i brought a few small gifts like t shirts and they were appreciated by the sosua girls. mostly because it was a gesture they did not expect and even though i have not tried sosua bar women since then, i cannot think of any reason why even in sosua, if one keeps their eyes skinned, be not drunk out of their wits and treat a person right, one should have a "bad" experience unless one is programed to treat these women like the proverbial shit and get the same in return.
2) speaking of women elsewhere on the island, i have had situations, where girls came to meet from elsewhere or i took them (one at a time of course) to a different place (for the night mind you, food and travel included) , nothing, absolutely nothing, happened. this is par for course if you are looking for a different experience. at times, there are glitches but that is what makes the experience so much richer and the payback is just pushed forward and let's not compare with the back page thing. while i have had some good experiences, they can be equally harrowing.
3) bringing a gift (of course galaxy is a completely ludicrous thing and should not be mixed with other more tempered expectations) or breaking bread are experiences that can render a standard sexual experience to a much superior one. especially over the long haul, should the first experience be positive, and one (almost always the man) , has the foresight to treat the other right and lay down the rules. of course, if one is always measuring the give and take, with the expectation that they be equal if not tilted in the man's favor. there are bound to be rude wake up calls. the thing is, i might even expect that from young people but from older folks who know that life is not always fair, is a sad reflection.
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[QUOTE=VicVeg; 1497567]I met a girl that looked nice, and I needed to release the load I saved up for 3 days. I was unfamiliar with the.
Scene, but said what the F. We went back, and she became all business. She gave a decent BBBJ, but then for sex, she.
Only wanted mish, and I had to beg her to get on top. NO Doggy allowed. What a jip. So I became somewhat guarded after that.
-If you don't let a chica know you are in control she will short change you. I begged her to get on top! LOL Who had the money! Do you beg for no onions on your whopper! If they give you onions do you except it without correction! She played on the fact that you were unfamiliar with the system. I also was a victim my first rodeo-
A few nights later, I talked to an old timer monger and he said I needed to find an average looking girl that seemed nice.
-Is he trying to say you are not capable of buying a real hottie.
So I did, and she was good. Again, a great BBBJ, but kind of average body. She was fun though. I saw her the next night,
And she pursued me, so I took her back and did almost the same routine. She allowed CIM, with spit, which was nice.
-A repeat in Sosua on an average body girl. Did know one else pursue you? Well even though you caught the same fish (or she caught you) you enjoyed yourself-
My last night in Sosua, I said I needed to find one of the real hotties I saw out.
-OHHH now we know what you really wanted-
With huge attitudes, not catching your glance, and wanting you to pursue them! Imagine that, having to pursue a girl in
Sosua! LOL!
-Bunnies and Hunters you have to know how the play them both- Its not your fault when the bunnies are looking for the older white guys or the young hip hoppers. I would have been out of that zone too-
I was sitting at El Flow, watching the action at Rumba's, and a gringo was yelling at a local girl because she.
Made a RFM (request for money). He probably banged her, then she asked for additional money. He stormed out, and I talked to
Her, and she seemed nice.
I came up with a plan to tell if a girl is cut throat: ask her to go to another place and see how her attitude changes.
So I asked this girl if she wanted a coffee, and she said ok. So I took her down the street to a German joint, and she.
Was fine. So I felt ok with her, and took her home. She was thicker than I normally like, but it has its benefits. She.
Could take a pounding! I F'd her hard, and long. She took all 6 inches, without any problem, and the harder I f'd her,
The more she loved it! She was a lot more fun than the petite chicks! And again, she did a great BBBJ without having to.
Be asked!
-And she didn't asked for more money right! How much were you paying her? No that's not my business! I seems you caught a wounded duck and had good luck!.
Sit at a table near the shops and make eyes at girls and you can meet them there during the day.
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I came to suspect the girls in the bars either arent attactive enough, or don't have businesss skills.
Good enough to have repeat business, or just have the look the hip-hopper tourists like but arent to be there long enough.
To provide repeat business.
-So you are saying you didn't like the looks in the chicas in the bars? I am asking because I assume you are not a hip-hopper tourists-
-It seems hard to meet local, non-pro girls for sex. There was a Cute waitress that I liked, but didn't want to embarrass.
Me / her by asking her out.
-In Sosua Dude are you kidding me! Every man should have dineros in his pocket and a S on his chest. We shouldn't be embarrass talking to any chica about wanting to be with them. You seem to have great observation skills, didn't you see Its all about Pesos!.
If you go back to Sosua give me a heads up if you want a wingman!
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[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1500202]These chicas survive on the fact that their underlying intentions or performance is not easy to confirm or regulate. They are in a better position because they can act, lie, deflect, omit, or rely on a mongers ignorance to get by.[/QUOTE]In my last trip I talked to as much mongers as I can, just say hi and where from and wish them good time, and at night I watch which girls they leave with, and we exchange stories and experiences when I see them again, when you know at leas 5 guys and ask them, how was last night, you get 5 real rates on 5 girls everyday, and its good for safety too. We are in the same boat so we should watch out for each other. Its less likely to be scammed or threatened when you show them that you know many mongers.
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So much discussion about bullshit. This is how I roll, and this is how I roll; who gives a flying fuck!
Come here, have a fucking blast.
Sosua has not changed; the beach and streets are full of chicas!
Stop wasting Web space with silly fucking comments!
Yes, boots on the ground and finishing my 5th happy hour!
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Good strategy
[quote=eltayeb;1500332]in my last trip i talked to as much mongers as i can, just say hi and where from and wish them good time, and at night i watch which girls they leave with, and we exchange stories and experiences when i see them again, when you know at leas 5 guys and ask them, how was last night, you get 5 real rates on 5 girls everyday, and its good for safety too. we are in the same boat so we should watch out for each other. its less likely to be scammed or threatened when you show them that you know many mongers.[/quote]intel among mongers is a very useful asset. i had the pleasure of warning a couple of guys ( they were friends of each other ) in rockys about that young chica suzy with the pimping mother. i had pulled him to the side, and pretended to ask him for money. a source told me another monger got involved with the girl and the mother a while back and had problems, with them trying to extort him. she supposedly is not even 18 yet. the guy i warned, who was talking to suzy for a while at a table, said goodbye and left. you could tell suzy thought she had scored a customer for sure. so she was disappointed when he ended the convo and left. he eventually came back but now with another girl.
suzy saw this and lost it. she got loud and boistrous and even confronted the girl inside of the restaurant. the guy was staying at rockys in the back. eventually she stormed out of rockys angry and upset (some of it feigned, imo ). the mother just sat in a seat nearby observing everything. the guy tried to be nice about it, and kept saying suzy is just like a daughter to him. which seemed to anger her even more. so imagine what could have happened if those two (mother and suzy) had set him up? both guys thanked me for the warning. even if the intel was wrong, why take that chance? especially since suzy does look like she is ****d. and who knows what other schemes her and the mother have in store for some unsuspecting monger?
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[quote=wrx2005;1500401]intel among mongers is a very useful asset. i had the pleasure of warning a couple of guys ( they were friends of each other ) in rockys about that young chica suzy with the pimping mother. i had pulled him to the side, and pretended to ask him for money. a source told me another monger got involved with the girl and the mother a while back and had problems, with them trying to extort him. she supposedly is not even 18 yet. the guy i warned, who was talking to suzy for a while at a table, said goodbye and left. you could tell suzy thought she had scored a customer for sure. so she was disappointed when he ended the convo and left. he eventually came back but now with another girl.[/quote]is suzy dark skinned? i met a cute girl at rocky's but she looked **** so i didn't go for it
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[quote=frannie; 1500224]dominican prostitutes are not licensed professionals or board certified sex therapists or surrogates. sometimes chicas will pull out all the stops for you if they like you, see you are a future important person in their life, or just as a regular client. if none of these apply, their sexual performance tends to be perfunctory. thus it is a complete waste of time looking for professional levels of performance.
on the other hand the charm of the situation is that if it works out right, you can have a fantastic time with some of them, and it hardly seems like prostitution at all.[/quote]i am in accord with what you are saying. whats important to note though is the word you used,"sometimes". point being,"sometimes" chicas will not pull out all the stops for you, even if they like you. oft time they don't know enough to like or dislike a guy. it's just business as usual. the reason being, a typical chica is fucking or has fucked dozens of other men just like you, including her dominican boyfriend. that is one of the most common reasons why a monger may experience sub par performance, bait and switch, and a whole array of issues. and it has nothing to do with anything he did wrong, or him turning her off. also, consideration can be given in regards to the difference in experience a "regular" customer that lives in the dr may have, from a guy that only comes a few times a year because he is on vacation. the guy that lives there is more likely to have a better connection with a chica, than the guy on vacation. as far as professional levels of service, i don't think anybody is suggesting the level of service should be professional. what guys are discussing, is simply getting the basics for what they believe they are paying for. whats expected doesn't require licensing or certifications. we understand these chicas are human beings, not machines. here we (some of us) discuss experiences and possible ways of avoiding obvious problems.
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[QUOTE=The Mind Bender;1500404]Is Suzy dark skinned?[/QUOTE]I think this is the Suzy he is referring to: [url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=189455[/url]
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[QUOTE=Shamester; 1500141]BTW who commits the majority of crimes in the DR? Racial profiling is necessary in controlling crime.
No big deal.[/QUOTE]I realize that you speak the truth and that the news reports back you up on this.
It really sucks though and makes my black friends from Arizona not want to leave the little area of Sosua
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[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1500414]I think this is the Suzy he is referring to:
[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=189455[/url][/QUOTE]Yes this girl calls her self Suzy.
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[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1500367]So much discussion about bullshit. This is how I roll, and this is how I roll; who gives a flying fuck! Come here, have a fucking blast. Sosua has not changed; the beach and streets are full of chicas![/QUOTE]You and Gogo have the right attitude! Complaining does not get anyone anywhere especially when it is the man calling the shots. Have fun and upload some creative pictures. LOL
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[QUOTE=Shamester; 1500141]BTW who commits the majority of crimes in the DR? Racial profiling is necessary in controlling crime.
No big deal.[/QUOTE]Dominicans do, yknow since they're the vast majority of the D-O-M-I-N-I-C-A-N republic? LOL.
There's really no evidence to support that profiling prevents any kind of crime.