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[QUOTE=WildInstincts;2945672]Visited Emporium with a friend. While I got a very good service, my friend's experience was so so. To top it off, the girl was not happy that he checked 200 K tip while she was "suggesting" 300 K tip.[/QUOTE]I don't like the mandatory tip policy at all. It will let the girls think they can get the tips even they provide lousy service.

I am looking for a spa in Jakarta in the budget of 600 K maximum where we can spend time with the girl in the pool before going to the room.

Do you know any spas like this?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=WildInstincts;2945672]Visited Emporium with a friend. While I got a very good service, my friend's experience was so so. To top it off, the girl was not happy that he checked 200 K tip while she was "suggesting" 300 K tip.[/QUOTE]Your friend should have asked her to borrow a pen and put a line through the three trailing zeros in 200,000.

Next time I'm visiting, if I get service I don't want to tip for, I'll make that clear, in a polite way of course, to the papasan / mamasan when paying at exit. I'm sure I will have to pay anyway, but this will be a strong minus for Emporivm in my book, and is IMO a stupid idea.

[QUOTE=JennyKk;2945687]I don't like the mandatory tip policy at all. It will let the girls think they can get the tips even they provide lousy service.[/QUOTE]If Emporium is telling guys up front there's a mandatory 200k tip none of us should complain. We just add 200k to the price that is quoted and it's up to us to take a girl or not. Emporium is doing this I'm guessing because a lot of guys had been coming in and tipping 50-100k or not tipping at all. Problem is now girls feel all they have to do is basic service and receive 200k tip. If they give excellent service they want 300+k. Slippery slope. Again, we can go or not go just know what the TRUE cost is.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2945295]Are you guys just doing a Google Maps search and posting like you know something or have either of you or anybody on this site been there? I went there 4 months ago at 7:00 pm but could not find it. So please give exact directions on where it is. So I am standing in the street in front of Indomaret facing north with the metro to my left. Tell me where the entrance is. I will verify quickly.[/QUOTE]Sorry fellas. I was at this place about six months ago, so I'm not certain if they've since changed the name to VFOUR or something else. After being disappointed with Hotel Travel experience, I booked a Grab to New Royal Bar, and that's where it took me. It's situated in the Kota Indah complex, with Starmoon Bar at the back and the New Royal Bar previously at the front, facing Jl. Pangeran Jayakarta, behind a compound wall. Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=JuneFly;2945775]Sorry fellas. I was at this place about six months ago, so I'm not certain if they've since changed the name to VFOUR or something else. After being disappointed with Hotel Travel experience, I booked a Grab to New Royal Bar, and that's where it took me. It's situated in the Kota Indah complex, with Starmoon Bar at the back and the New Royal Bar previously at the front, facing Jl. Pangeran Jayakarta, behind a compound wall. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Its just a price increase. So assume girls are now 1. 4 and 1. 6 and move on. Tips above that are still optional and in fact even zero above that is acceptable. As someone who always tipped at least 200, it doesn't mean much to me. The 1. 2 category girl only gets 350 K for herself so even with minimum tip she is getting only 550 for serving you for 90 min with hopefully great service. I have been there twice this trip and both times got really good service. I think the girls there are more consistent in both looks and service level than Classic and that's why I am more frequenting Emporium. If the service level drops then I would be unhappy with the situation and find a different playground.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2945654]
I was given the information by a respected board member to correct me when I told him there was only Royal and Royal VIP within the walls of KI. He directed me to New Royal. I see he still hasn't put up his review (s) yet. [/QUOTE]You post a lot so others believe everything you post. But you were wrong. I assume you think that because the member who gave you the information about New Life is a respected member meaning because he posts a lot? Guys post all the time and are wrong. Google Maps is wrong. I checked in person one last time. There is no New Royal by the metro line. New Royal is now Royal. They took down the "New" part of the sign. Look at the old picture from Google Maps. I asked a mamasan at Royal and she said this is New Royal. I went to Royal VIP and asked where is New Royal while showing him the map on my phone. He said it is right around the corner. Volterra was correct in that they are one and the same. I think New Sari Ayu is now just Sari Ayu. But there is only one so no mistake in finding it.

Go to Google Maps. Search New Royal Bar. Maximize / enlarge the picture as much as you can in front of the bar. Double click in the middle of the street. A small pop up should show at the bottom of the screen saying "Street View". Click on that.

X.

Travel is hit and miss. Lately I have had 3 good girls in a row. But now the next one will be a dud since I opened my mouth. But agree that it can be problematic at times there.

X.

Zippos.

To get a Classic girl to your Classic hotel room will be 1,000,000 IDR or more. She is not going to sneak out at her own work place. For example, I tried to get 3 girls from Travel to visit me at Red Star Hotel which is a 2 minutes walk away from Travel and nobody would know. They all quoted 1 million or more. I wanted them to visit me at 3 pm and then walk 2 minutes to start their 4 pm shift. I offered to pay them 500 so they make more money but no go. Both Travel and Classic the mamasans have a pretty tight reign. I and others have posted about how the tone of the girl's text did not match their personalities. I am sure you could get them on an off day or during menstruation or something but too much work. Same thing at Classic. I tried 2 girls and noticed the same "It is policy" answer.

Your advice makes since but not here. You mentioned taking 7+ girls so the mamasan knows you are a good guy and will let the girl go to your Classic hotel room. I asked the mamasan I used the most and she said the same thing the guys on this site said. It will cost you a multiple of 4-5 times the cost of 1 hour because it is considered "off site". I have taken 25 girls from Classic since April and I get the same answer as everyone else.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2945584]I finally checked out the infamous Lokasari. There are a few mama sans but you have to kind of know what you are looking for. 500 including the room. Service is very basic. Honestly Classic at the same price has far better selection and you can find gems with good service and cleaner set up. Tried it to say I did. Don't think I would repeat.[/QUOTE]Who are you? The real EA was moving from mid-town to uptown. You went downtown. Will the real EA please stand up.

Medellin65.

Just a friendly reminder we are still waiting for some prices.

Thommy84.

Just a friendly reminder we are still waiting for your Telegram links / names.

Some of the Emporium girls are willing to come outside after the work. With the permission of management to make extra money. Girl from Emporium told me that way. I prefer LT sometimes, if so anyone tried that way, how much will be to give them LT?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2945762]If Emporium is telling guys up front there's a mandatory 200k tip none of us should complain. We just add 200k to the price that is quoted and it's up to us to take a girl or not. Emporium is doing this I'm guessing because a lot of guys had been coming in and tipping 50-100k or not tipping at all. Problem is now girls feel all they have to do is basic service and receive 200k tip. If they give excellent service they want 300+k. Slippery slope. Again, we can go or not go just know what the TRUE cost is.[/QUOTE]Who says there's a mandatory tip, the girls? Or the security guard? Because I get this quoted to me in places from Shenzhen, China to Bangkok and when I have a bad experience I put zero, take a photo of the receipt and then I don't need to pay.

Unless it's written in black and white definitely don't believe everything they say verbally.

It wasn't "the" girl but more than 3.

Girls 1 - Aya (yes, it was her name and I'm not going to write Miss A!) I already took her twice on 2 separate nights and third day was her day off. She is the one wanted to come to my room. Didn't quote me any price but I tipped her 1 mil for being with me for more than 12 hrs.

Girl 2 & 3 - Putri and Yuli. Best 3 some performer. I already had Putri for a single session and she told me she would like to meet me for 2 mil in my room! Over ambitious! I settled for 1. 2 for both her and her friend. Turned out, Yuli was more passionate than Putri for sure. Stayed until the morning, approximately 5/6 hrs.

Girl 4 - Novianti. Sweet girl. Good passionate love making. Did CIM-Swallow. Arrangement was to meet her after work. Stayed until 10 am. Damage was 1 mil.

Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2945513]Zippo. How long did you have the Classic girl in your Classic room? What was the cost?[/QUOTE]

I seriously can't wait until next to check out Emporium and it's "what the heck with 200 k mandatory tips" and what kind of golden pussy they have on the menu! I hope it's worth the 200 k and not a lousy service at the end. Will post reviews.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2945762]If Emporium is telling guys up front there's a mandatory 200k tip none of us should complain. We just add 200k to the price that is quoted and it's up to us to take a girl or not. Emporium is doing this I'm guessing because a lot of guys had been coming in and tipping 50-100k or not tipping at all. Problem is now girls feel all they have to do is basic service and receive 200k tip. If they give excellent service they want 300+k. Slippery slope. Again, we can go or not go just know what the TRUE cost is.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2945081]Medellin65 mentioned all these places but did not post any names until we jumped his * about it. I stated most the problems with his list that common sense would have answered for him if he looked at a map and thought about it. He also said he got some prices and still no prices listed. He asks for info and does not give any.

Your turn. You think we and me are harsh? Funny. Go visit the Medellin Colombia thread. Now you talk about this local Telegram communities but YOU do not list the community names or how to find them.

FYI pre-booking is not a magic bullet. Right now I am waiting for a girl I had last night. She said she starts at 5:00 and I told her I will be there 5:20. She texted me something came up so now 6:00 so I will see her at 6:20. I am hoping but it is iffy she will even be there. I told another girl and her mamasan I want her again tomorrow when she gets here at 4:00.4:10 she is not there. Mamasan says she is in the salon and will I wait. NO! That is in the same building but she is not here to "F". Then the other girl I wanted that did not come in at all that day.

So in summary niether of you have posted any helpful information.[/QUOTE]1. Receiving helpful information is a privelige, not a right.

2 One could possibly conclude after reading your report that probably the girl just didn't like you. OS can't really understand why because you seem like such a nice guy.

Dear LIH69,

Excellent post. You answered all, kudos. A lot of freebies post here without having boots on the ground, yes I call them freebies and not punters or mongers. Why, because they shoot from the hip and far from the reality. Keep going.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2945843]You post a lot so others believe everything you post. But you were wrong. I assume you think that because the member who gave you the information about New Life is a respected member meaning because he posts a lot? Guys post all the time and are wrong. Google Maps is wrong. I checked in person one last time. There is no New Royal by the metro line. New Royal is now Royal. They took down the "New" part of the sign. Look at the old picture from Google Maps. I asked a mamasan at Royal and she said this is New Royal. I went to Royal VIP and asked where is New Royal while showing him the map on my phone. He said it is right around the corner. Volterra was correct in that they are one and the same. I think New Sari Ayu is now just Sari Ayu. But there is only one so no mistake in finding it.

Go to Google Maps. Search New Royal Bar. Maximize / enlarge the picture as much as you can in front of the bar. Double click in the middle of the street. A small pop up should show at the bottom of the screen saying "Street View". Click on that.

X.

Travel is hit and miss. Lately I have had 3 good girls in a row. But now the next one will be a dud since I opened my mouth. But agree that it can be problematic at times there..[/QUOTE]

If every monger is asked to pay 200 k as tip (emporium) then its not good. Because a good punter is bracketed with a stingy one. Tip should be at the sole discretion of the monger. Also it demotivates a girl to provide good service.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2945762]If Emporium is telling guys up front there's a mandatory 200k tip none of us should complain. We just add 200k to the price that is quoted and it's up to us to take a girl or not. Emporium is doing this I'm guessing because a lot of guys had been coming in and tipping 50-100k or not tipping at all. Problem is now girls feel all they have to do is basic service and receive 200k tip. If they give excellent service they want 300+k. Slippery slope. Again, we can go or not go just know what the TRUE cost is.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2945843]You post a lot so others believe everything you post. But you were wrong. I assume you think that because the member who gave you the information about New Life is a respected member meaning because he posts a lot? [/QUOTE]You are correct I fully take the heat for this one. I never report things on hearsay and if I do I would say my info is just that. I took someone else's word on this and then he doesn't even post a review. Once again, apologies.

(not sure what you consider a lot of posts but it's under 400)