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Jakarta by the numbers
Days in Jakarta: 4.
Total Sessions: 8. Emporium 3 x, Lokasari 1 x, Classic 1 x, Seeking girls 3 x (one repeat).
Total shots 9.
Total number of girls 7.
Number of condoms used: 1.
Also checked out Terminal 5. Similar as T2. Except girls sit in two fishbowls and Mama sans are less aggressive. I went there around 10.30 pm but quality of girls wasn't great so I didn't pick from there.
You guys need to stop whining about the Emporium tip policy. Yes its real and confirmed. But if you weren't tipping at least 200 K you were not their target customer anyway. You can always go to Classic or KI where the fuck is under 400 K. Emporium is Business Class. Some people will think its worth it, others may not. But no point whining about the price. I have received very consistent service ranging from good to excellent to mind blowing from girls that are hot by any standards, below 22, no kids, flat bellies and usually fair skin. So yeah, worth it to me.
New this time were the SA girls. Found two submissive girls and had some fun BDSM / anal etc sessions. If you think Emporium is too expensive then SA is not for you. But there were plenty of non pro educated English speaking girls available, many into kink and more interesting things than your average Classic girl. I enjoyed session that ranged from 4 to 7 hours each with one of the girls willing to stay longer but I sent her home cause I needed to sleep.
In summary, IMHO Jakarta beats any other mongering destination hands down in quality of girls and the sex they provide. Every single girl provided natural sex with DFK, BBBJ, and 6/7 girls provided BBFS. None of the girls had a single tattoo, all were under 25, most around 19-20. Ill take that over the jaded tatted fake boobed hookers in Thailand or over used single moms in the Phils any day.
Disclaimer. YMMV. You may not (or most likely WILL not) get the same experience.
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[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2945843]You post a lot so others believe everything you post. But you were wrong. I assume you think that because the member who gave you the information about New Life is a respected member meaning because he posts a lot? Guys post all the time and are wrong. Google Maps is wrong. I checked in person one last time. There is no New Royal by the metro line. New Royal is now Royal. They took down the "New" part of the sign. Look at the old picture from Google Maps. I asked a mamasan at Royal and she said this is New Royal. I went to Royal VIP and asked where is New Royal while showing him the map on my phone. He said it is right around the corner. Volterra was correct in that they are one and the same. I think New Sari Ayu is now just Sari Ayu. But there is only one so no mistake in finding it..[/QUOTE]New sari Ayu is sari Ayu. Like you said mamasan confirmed this obviously I took it with a pinch of salt. But could not find new sari ayu it was in by he exact location as Sari Ayu. Confusing I know.
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[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2945843]
Who are you? The real EA was moving from mid-town to uptown. You went downtown. Will the real EA please stand up.
.[/QUOTE]So you can't enjoy both a McDonalds and a high end steak? I wanted to check out Lokasari and put out some actual on the ground info. Your'e Welcome.
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[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2945999]Days in Jakarta: 4.
Total Sessions: 8. Emporium 3 x, Lokasari 1 x, Classic 1 x, Seeking girls 3 x (one repeat).
Total shots 9.
Total number of girls 7.
Number of condoms used: 1.
[/QUOTE]Bro, That ofcourse is a remarkable experience. Next time you can add KG and1001 as Bussiness class. Keep mongering.
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It appears most of us are incorrect and posts wrong info except you and some like minded individuals that dances in every wedding with you! Well gnome, only thing I have to say, whatever floats your boat. I got no further comments or replies to convey. Will be visiting few dozens of places in next coming weeks. Please feel free to read past my posts and jump the gun on adjudicating as you do best. Unlike you, some of us have real life things to deal with instead of finding flaws in reports.
I will not take partake in some keyboard warriors battle of key strokes.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2945843]You post a lot so others believe everything you post. But you were wrong. I assume you think that because the member who gave you the information about New Life is a respected member meaning because he posts a lot? Guys post all the time and are wrong. Google Maps is wrong. I checked in person one last time. There is no New Royal by the metro line. New Royal is now Royal. They took down the "New" part of the sign. Look at the old picture from Google Maps. I asked a mamasan at Royal and she said this is New Royal. I went to Royal VIP and asked where is New Royal while showing him the map on my phone. He said it is right around the corner. Volterra was correct in that they are one and the same. I think New Sari Ayu is now just Sari Ayu. But there is only one so no mistake in finding it.
Go to Google Maps. Search New Royal Bar. Maximize / enlarge the picture as much as you can in front of the bar. Double click in the middle of the street. A small pop up should show at the bottom of the screen saying "Street View". Click on that.
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Travel is hit and miss. Lately I have had 3 good girls in a row. But now the next one will be a dud since I opened my mouth. But agree that it can be problematic at times there.
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Zippos.
To get a Classic girl to your Classic hotel room will be 1,000,000 IDR or more. She is not going to sneak out at her own work place. For example, I tried to get 3 girls from Travel to visit me at Red Star Hotel which is a 2 minutes walk away from Travel and nobody would know. They all quoted 1 million or more. I wanted them to visit me at 3 pm and then walk 2 minutes to start their 4 pm shift. I offered to pay them 500 so they make more money but no go. Both Travel and Classic the mamasans have a pretty tight reign. I and others have posted about how the tone of the girl's text did not match their personalities. I am sure you could get them on an off day or during menstruation or something but too much work. Same thing at Classic. I tried 2 girls and noticed the same "It is policy" answer.
Your advice makes since but not here. You mentioned taking 7+ girls so the mamasan knows you are a good guy and will let the girl go to your Classic hotel room. I asked the mamasan I used the most and she said the same thing the guys on this site said. It will cost you a multiple of 4-5 times the cost of 1 hour because it is considered "off site". I have taken 25 girls from Classic since April and I get the same answer as everyone else.
Who are you? The real EA was moving from mid-town to uptown. You went downtown. Will the real EA please stand up.
Medellin65.
Just a friendly reminder we are still waiting for some prices.
Thommy84.
Just a friendly reminder we are still waiting for your Telegram links / names.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2945762]If Emporium is telling guys up front there's a mandatory 200k tip none of us should complain. We just add 200k to the price that is quoted and it's up to us to take a girl or not. Emporium is doing this I'm guessing because a lot of guys had been coming in and tipping 50-100k or not tipping at all. Problem is now girls feel all they have to do is basic service and receive 200k tip. If they give excellent service they want 300+k. Slippery slope. Again, we can go or not go just know what the TRUE cost is.[/QUOTE]That's exactly the point. Girls think that 200K is granted for the basic service and expect the punter to tip 300K or above for a good service. So, it adds up to the final cost. Of course one can choose not to give the additional tip expected.
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[QUOTE=WildInstincts;2946135]That's exactly the point. Girls think that 200K is granted for the basic service and expect the punter to tip 300K or above for a good service. So, it adds up to the final cost. Of course one can choose not to give the additional tip expected.[/QUOTE]If my memory is correct in my last visit few months ago, the asked me weather I pay any tip and I agreed and wrote some thing near the room key counter area and from the reception they collected 200 k. In my second visit I told the lady that shall pay the tip to her and gave it in her hand. She was the one ready to join me after work.
If anyone is not happy with the service, ofcourse can deny the tip after the room.
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I did get a girl from Travel to go to RedStar hotel for an hour for 500 k but really worked her over for that hour so gave her 700 k. I tried to get 6 girls to visit my hotel and she was the only one that came for a decent price for the 1 hour I wanted. Then a few days later I tried again and no reply. But she contacted me a few days later but we never met again. The 7th girl contact me 2 months after quitting work to meet me. Twice she did not visit and she picked the day and time. Third time she contacted me I told her to delete my number. I found the sneak outs to be too much work. Many of the replies come from mamasans using the girls phones and with prices around 1000 k whether it be one or several hours. Many others have commented with the same results. You verified that with the time and prices you listed.
I am not fond of Gabacho. He thinks Lokasari is like Centro in Medellin. I know both well. I am breaking his vision of Lokasari because it is better he lower his expectations now than when he gets here. He was planning his hotel stay around his play time in Lokasari. I am actually helping him. Tough love. ExpatAmerican just further backed what BB, I, and others have posted about the FL scene there. ExpatAmerican also verified that FLs are not that easily spotted as others had posted.
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[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2945584]I finally checked out the infamous Lokasari. Don't expect it to be like Sukhumvit at night. There are a few mama sans but you have to kind of know what you are looking for. The mama sans have a handful of girls, they call them and do a small line up on the street. Most are very young and some are quite pretty. 500 including the room. Service is very basic. Honestly Classic at the same price has far better selection and you can find gems with good service and cleaner set up. Tried it to say I did. Don't think I would repeat. Mama san would send girls to your hotel for 2-3 hours short time for 700 k.[/QUOTE]Thanks for reviewing. Since the price is higher than classic, but setup and rooms sounds quite iffy, it seems like the girls would indeed need to be prettier and with less mileage for anyone to bother with this.
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[QUOTE=WildInstincts;2946135]That's exactly the point. Girls think that 200K is granted for the basic service and expect the punter to tip 300K or above for a good service. So, it adds up to the final cost. Of course one can choose not to give the additional tip expected.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. Tip should be voluntary. If you put the 200 k into calculation, emporium will have similar cost compared to malio /1001. And I think its LU is not on par with those two.
It can be changed to 200 k minimum tips if you are satisfied or nothing if you are not satisfied. Just not mandatory.
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[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2945999]
New this time were the SA girls. Found two submissive girls and had some fun BDSM / anal etc sessions. If you think Emporium is too expensive then SA is not for you. But there were plenty of non pro educated English speaking girls available, many into kink and more interesting things than your average Classic girl. I enjoyed session that ranged from 4 to 7 hours each with one of the girls willing to stay longer but I sent her home cause I needed to sleep.[/QUOTE]Very interested in SA chicks. Are you willing to provide more details?
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[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2946163]I did get a girl from Travel to go to RedStar hotel for an hour for 500 k but really worked her over for that hour so gave her 700 k. I tried to get 6 girls to visit my hotel and she was the only one that came for a decent price for the 1 hour I wanted. Then a few days later I tried again and no reply. But she contacted me a few days later but we never met again. The 7th girl contact me 2 months after quitting work to meet me. Twice she did not visit and she picked the day and time. Third time she contacted me I told her to delete my number. I found the sneak outs to be too much work. Many of the replies come from mamasans using the girls phones and with prices around 1000 k whether it be one or several hours. Many others have commented with the same results. You verified that with the time and prices you listed.
I am not fond of Gabacho. He thinks Lokasari is like Centro in Medellin. I know both well. I am breaking his vision of Lokasari because it is better he lower his expectations now than when he gets here. He was planning his hotel stay around his play time in Lokasari. I am actually helping him. Tough love. ExpatAmerican just further backed what BB, I, and others have posted about the FL scene there. ExpatAmerican also verified that FLs are not that easily spotted as others had posted.[/QUOTE]I haven't even been there yet, although I'm getting closer and will be there soon. So how can you say what I think lokasari is like? I've just been gathering info from here and making adjustments to my plans. I'm thinking of staying closer to kota Indah complex now.
That being said I do want to check out lokasari and the area the other guy mentioned that he saw them on the motorbike, the guy you were talking shit to. Also EA gave a pretty vivid picture of the area in his assessment which is more than I can say about your posts which for the most part tend to talk shit about other members and post vague information that is sometimes correct and sometimes incorrect compared to other members.
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Actually
Actually what I would like to see is a platform like Thai Friendly or PinaLove specifically for Jakarta. I think that would be the ideal way to find freelancers. But I do want to check out the places in KI Complex, check the street scene just to see what is available there, and also classic and travel.
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[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2946163]I did get a girl from Travel to go to RedStar hotel for an hour for 500 k but really worked her over for that hour so gave her 700 k. I tried to get 6 girls to visit my hotel and she was the only one that came for a decent price for the 1 hour I wanted. Then a few days later I tried again and no reply. But she contacted me a few days later but we never met again. The 7th girl contact me 2 months after quitting work to meet me. Twice she did not visit and she picked the day and time. Third time she contacted me I told her to delete my number. I found the sneak outs to be too much work. Many of the replies come from mamasans using the girls phones and with prices around 1000 k whether it be one or several hours. Many others have commented with the same results. You verified that with the time and prices you listed.[/QUOTE]Those aren't very good stats for a successful meetup.
I have a friend who makes plans with his Classic, Travel, KI, and CJs regulars. I ask him if he wants to do lunch and he says no he has a girl coming over. More often than not I get a text around his meet up time if I want to go to lunch because his girl flaked.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2946336]Those aren't very good stats for a successful meetup.
I have a friend who makes plans with his Classic, Travel, KI, and CJs regulars. I ask him if he wants to do lunch and he says no he has a girl coming over. More often than not I get a text around his meet up time if I want to go to lunch because his girl flaked.[/QUOTE]Do you know what he normally pays them if they do happen to show up? LOL.