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I don't think this kind of stuff would discourage mongers from going to Sosua, but those that are culturally aware in the DR know about the perceptions of certain people, whether they are outwardly spoken or not in the little tourist town. [url]http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1063998?ref=feeds%2Flatest[/url]
Who gives a shit about the racial topic?
Trip reports you sorry fucks?
[QUOTE=MongerDave;1500647]My first trip to Sosua is coming up. I had one question the answer I couldn't find in a search, although I think it may be in there. Do you need to know Spanish to speak with the girls and for the trip in general? How much Spanish? Fluent? Beginner? I don't speak any Spanish.[/QUOTE]One answer you will find everywhere is that, if you spend your time in Sosua, you do not need any other language, as the women can muster some English. But of course that means you are not exactly going to discuss existentialism or say, Shakespeare with the women, after you are done with the romp. LOL.
There are also other locales like the Blackbeard (Cofresi?) and I forget the name of the other. In Puerto Plata, where the establishment is run by native north Americans and so language is not an issue. These are in close proximity to Sosua.
It is clear that to enjoy better what the island has to offer, it is always good to know the language but not knowing it is not going to be detrimental to your enjoyment especially if you stick to the places mentioned, this being your first trip.
Enjoy!
[QUOTE=MongerDave;1500647]My first trip to Sosua is coming up. I had one question the answer I couldn't find in a search, although I think it may be in there. Do you need to know Spanish to speak with the girls and for the trip in general? How much Spanish? Fluent? Beginner? I don't speak any Spanish.[/QUOTE]I should be ok in Sosua my man. A lot of chicas speak a little English or have a chica friend that speaks for them. Spanish helps a lot but pesos are going to bridge the language barrier.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1501158]I don't think this kind of stuff would discourage mongers from going to Sosua, but those that are culturally aware in the DR know about the perceptions of certain people, whether they are outwardly spoken or not in the little tourist town.
[url]http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1063998?ref=feeds%2Flatest[/url][/QUOTE]Article says "The highly rate of Haitians being killed or massacred while working in the Dominican Republic is as high as 90." Really? 90% of Haitians in DR are killed? Pathetic journalism.
I'm thinking now that the Canadian dollar bill is plastic, to take Canadian this time, it will be easier to hide it, like in the fridge in a bowl of "Chicken Testicle Soup".
I never put cash in the safe, its the first searched spot in case I got fucked up one night, I saw on youtube how easy it is to open a safe, and it works as I tried it on difference safe, and I will only lose 20 dollar on every 1000 dollar using Canadian currency directly without switching to USD.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1501039]Your perspective is flawed or at least debatable. Earning as much money as possible is one of the biggest incentives to providing great service or the very least, service the chica agreed to. Once again you try to place the reasons for chicas performance mostly on mongers, rather than the fact that many of these chicas are simply lazy, slick, hard core, hate having to trick, have enough men to fuck in their lineup, or some other personal reason. None of which has anything to do with the individual monger in front of them.
- I am with Olk on this one and it is debatable. In my experience (not that long) most of the lazy, slick, hard core, hate having to trick chicas ect. Will give you a better performance if they see an incentive. The guy she just BBBJ, enslaved her naked body, and sometimes pounded her ass (literally) into submission is better than looking for a new guy if there is an incentive for staying. Street chicas learn quickly to read men. They study us, share notes, and experiences. They are evaluating and categorizing us as soon as we hit the block. If its all about the pesos- even a chica with 12 well paid WU novios will upgrade their performance if she thinks her new trick is going to be number 13. I never met a Sosua chica who said " I out here just for fun because had I have enough money". She would rather get 100 dollars from 1 man all night than 25 from four during the night. The man she observes and deal with will dictate her most of her actions. Hell " doy buenos consejos" will make a mostly lazy chica move. Ask an ex-pat why the same chica charges him less. Most of us have novias because that chica went the extra mile. She has learned the incentives of having a Main Man in opposed to going to trick on the Main Ave. We reap the rewards. At a cheaper cost hopefully! Talk to her and get in her head before the bed. Its saves headaches and correlates better experiences.
[quote=grownman1;1501441]hell " doy buenos consejos" will make a mostly lazy chica move.[/quote]i think we are over analyzing our experiences, i agree with all of you as you all had different experiences, but now you are trying to make rules out of this experiences to apply on all cases.
i think its simpler than that, a fuck is like a cab ride, you can get a taxi driver who like his job, play good music, chit chat and enjoy the ride since he is driving anyway, and he doesn't expect a ride repeat for being fun, its his personality, and you can get the driver who is angry and hate his life, drive fast to finish the job and get another ride then try to over charge you and so on, and you can get the driver who starts angry but you can change his mood with a jock or an interesting conversation, or the driver who starts fun then change his mood when you ask him to start the taximeter to pay the exact rate. same experiences with girls can be applied on this example, no one can claim after a hundred cab rides that he own the truth and can figure out for sure how his next ride will be.
therefore i think the best solution is to exchange intil on specific girls, like the **** trap suzi who was hanging out by ricky place, this was an awesome tip which helps all of us, thanks man for posting it.
[quote=eltayeb; 1501447]i think we are over analyzing our experiences, i agree with all of you as you all had different experiences, but now you are trying to make rules out of this experiences to apply on all cases.
my man i don't know if you were referring to me with this statement but you have me in the quote area. i would never try to apply rules for all experiences. i stated in my second sentence " in my experience (not that long) most of the lazy, slick, hard core, hate having to trick chicas ect. will give you a better performance if they see an incentive." "most" doesn't apply to "all" the last time i check.
therefore i think the best solution is to exchange intil on specific girls, like the **** trap suzi who was hanging out by ricky place, this was an awesome tip which helps all of us, thanks man for posting it.[/quote]- agree with you on this. a few weeks back i went so fall as the repost some of the earlier posts of guys and there warning of specific chicas. i suggested photos of them to warn other mongers. fannie started the forum but i think he was being sarcastic. i come here for the warning info others give to learn from them. reading these posts saved me from looking for little miss suzi q after trace talked about her. she might be over age but why chance it. well besides that cute little body, small frame, bella smile and uh you think she 18 yet? lol
[QUOTE=GrownMan1; 1501441]I am with Olk on this one and it is debatable. In my experience (not that long) most of the lazy, slick, hard core, hate having to trick chicas ect. Will give you a better performance if they see an incentive. The guy she just BBBJ, enslaved her naked body, and sometimes pounded her ass (literally) into submission is better than looking for a new guy if there is an incentive for staying. Street chicas learn quickly to read men. They study us, share notes, and experiences. They are evaluating and categorizing us as soon as we hit the block. If its all about the pesos- even a chica with 12 well paid WU novios will upgrade their performance if she thinks her new trick is going to be number 13. I never met a Sosua chica who said " I out here just for fun because had I have enough money". She would rather get 100 dollars from 1 man all night than 25 from four during the night. The man she observes and deal with will dictate her most of her actions. Hell " doy buenos consejos" will make a mostly lazy chica move. Ask an ex-pat why the same chica charges him less. Most of us have novias because that chica went the extra mile. She has learned the incentives of having a Main Man in opposed to going to trick on the Main Ave. We reap the rewards. At a cheaper cost hopefully! Talk to her and get in her head before the bed. Its saves headaches and correlates better experiences.[/QUOTE]I am in accord with what you conveyed here. Everyones experiences are pieces of the puzzle. Often we share experiences. Thats why we shouldnt be assuming we disagree with each other or our experiences are all completely different. The issue I was focused on is when OK claimed most mongers are one and done, and thats why chicas supposedly don't have an incentive to provide good service. I don't necessarily subscribe to that perspective. How do you measure that anyway?
If you have many mongers initiating having chicas stay all night (which means paying her more money) but many of these chicas are bailing once the dude nuts, trying to leave earlier than the agreed time, trying to up sell their services, how is the monger the one responsible for not providing an incentive to the chica? Moreover, how is it a chica is making the assumption the guy is not going to repeat with her? Of course the dude aint going to repeat. What incentive did she provide for him to repeat? In those instances, those arent monger issues, those are chica issues. Now what you provided it certainly applies because I have had that experience with chicas as well. But those were chicas that were OPEN to be persuaded by the incentive we offered.
A chicas performance can vary depending on whats going on with that chica. Which may not have anything to do with a monger not providing an incentive. I have chicas that love staying with me several days, and want more than I let them. But I also know chicas that are strictly about the hustle. I may get with them if I'm in the mood for them, and when we both are available. Sometimes it's great, sometimes not so. Still their main incentive is to get that dinero. But even regular chicas can take their regular mongers for granted and start slipping when it comes to their services.
And thats when they may need to be checked and reminded that they should provide the service that is expected or lose a customer. Mucho chicas and new ones every day in Sosua, are out there competing. No monger has to settle for slackers, slicksters or inconsistency. In fact, chicas in competition with each other for customers is definitely incentive for a chica to provide good services, so as to get repeat business. But we must also take into consideration. Many of these chicas are not business majors. Many of them live for the moment and dont think about investing to be better off another day. Enough of them have mentors telling them how they should conduct their encounters with mongers. Many of them are simply doing what they are being taught or trained to do. Back in the day, it was more common to see mongers with personable relationships with chicas. Chicas went to meet the dude and went with the dude to the airport when he was leaving. A lot of that has changed. I still see this happening, but not as much.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1501441]Street chicas learn quickly to read men. They study us, share notes, and experiences. They are evaluating and categorizing us as soon as we hit the block.[/QUOTE]So very true.
[QUOTE=The Mind Bender;1501697]So very true.[/QUOTE]In addition to being very manipulative and great actresses.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1501165]Who gives a shit about the racial topic?
Trip reports you sorry fucks?[/QUOTE]Agree. Too many posters think they are great columnists.
In Sosua for the weekend. Plenty of working girls around town. So far I'm not impressed with the level of talent. Perhaps things will look better in terms of the quality tonight a D'Latin. The weather is great and the little beach looks good. I'm sure the weekend will be fun. I think Colombia has spoiled me LOL.
[QUOTE=Shamester;1501723]In addition to being very manipulative and great actresses.[/QUOTE]Manipulation of people is a science called "social engineering".
According to Wiki :
"Social engineering, in the context of information security, refers to psychological manipulation of people into performing actions or divulging confidential information. A type of confidence trick for the purpose of information gathering, fraud, or system access, it differs from a traditional "con" in that it is often one of many steps in a more complex fraud scheme."
So, like in every science there will be a smart successful scientist and obvious not smart one, and we should as well master our social engineering skills to be able to detect and counter attack :)