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[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2661614]IF its a law do it, if it is NOT please don't. We willfully eschew the law when it comes to prostitution to get laid, I would think your civil liberties would be just as ripe a righteous cause.[/QUOTE]There is a separate thread for this kind of commentary, "Philippines Politics and Economics", which might be a better place for this. I tried to PM you, but I got a message that says you can't receive PM's.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2661776]There is a separate thread for this kind of commentary, "Philippines Politics and Economics", which might be a better place for this. I tried to PM you, but I got a message that says you can't receive PM's.[/QUOTE]You are right it does belong there, I can assure you that I am done talking about it, I will be switching over to trip reports shortly Papa Jesus willing.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2661797]You are right it does belong there, I can assure you that I am done talking about it, I will be switching over to trip reports shortly Papa Jesus willing.[/QUOTE]Pics make good reports. Errrr, that's what I heard.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2661655]Although I have been to Makati perhaps 10 times, I have never been to a KTV.

In fact, I associate KTVs with stories I have read about guys who go to a back room, are surprised when large men walk in and end up being blackmailed (generally going from ATM to ATM until their limit is used up)...[/QUOTE]Haha this is funny! I feel the same way you do about KTVs, and probably will never experience one.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2661620]Few more maps attached for the area of LAC.

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Also in the area, Robinson's Mall has 3-5 walkers in the mall starting about 11 am. Outside on Pedro Gil, at the steps in front of Araya resto, are 3-10 available ladies, starting around 3 pm. Curfew (if there is one).[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing WestCoast, great report.

[QUOTE=GhostD;2661448]Yes, there are a few ways to get to La Caf from Makati, I have been through at least 3-4 different routes from BGC / Makati over the years, LA Caf is actually really close to the coast line, as shown in the map image, if you take the main road that follows the coast you will see several bars / clubs that are mid to up-market being costal facing, and then a short road into the venue itself, I have actually travelled in the route that you described as well and I agree, only seasoned folks might want to explore those streets; the other route I was on passed by, has a lot of Karaoke, bars and casinos which have a Arabic type feel, including a lot of hot ladies to be seen trying to entice customers, that area is very close to the location of LA Caf, hence my question about was there anywhere else worth visiting in that area.

I do know that there were a number of night clubs in the area which range from mostly local to mixed customer bases, and in (a good few) years past there were some reports in this forum of some places worth visiting in that general area, but nothing in recent years.[/QUOTE]Thinking of heading to LA Cafe and Robinsons mall next Saturday and suggestions and advice very welcome.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2661825]Pics make good reports. Errrr, that's what I heard.[/QUOTE]Nice boobies on that one, Westie! Thanks! Look out Philippines. Here I come! Arriving Feb 17 to process SRRV and get settled on Negros Island with frequent trips to MNL. AC, Subic, Cebu and probably the rest of SEA. Hope to meet up with you, the legendary photo king, Westie!

[QUOTE=Ireland1961;2662656]Thinking of heading to LA Cafe and Robinsons mall next Saturday and suggestions and advice very welcome.[/QUOTE]I believe that Ghost the (post #18651) and myself (post #18657) made descriptive reports of LAC and Robinson's in the past week or so? You might want to start there. The walkers inside Robinson's show up before noon most days, and hang in the same spot as before, in the hallway between the atrium and Starbucks on the Pedro Gil entrance, near the escalator. The girls in Robinson's are a full digit higher on the scale than the girls prior to the pandemic.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2661831]Haha this is funny! I feel the same way you do about KTVs, and probably will never experience one.[/QUOTE]I am really looking for something a bit on the exotic side. I usually just fish off of Date in Asia (DIA) and [URL]pinalove.com[/URL] and end up with more girls than I can handle. The trick, which I have not mastered, is timing. For example, I have often arranged a lunch date, with the goal to have a nice lunch, go back to my room for the fun, and send the girl on her way and then move on to girl #2. Girl #2 is usually a late dinner date and an overnight. The idea is to have sex with three times with two different girls each day.

It is not hard to find willing girls to fill the calendar, even when one is relatively explicit. But getting them to the hotel on time, or knowing when to admit that a girl is going to be a no show, is exasperating. Some guys here line up multiple ladies for the same time period. I did that once and had a girl waiting for me in the lobby of my hotel at midnight while I was fucking another girl. To make a long story short, I made an embarrassing situation into a totally humiliating one (for all parties concerned).

My next trip, I got a room at the Peninsula and another at the New World Makati and sent half the girls to one hotel and the other half to the other. There certainly was no overlap, but this a waste of money, and the timing issues were not any better. One girl sat in the lobby of the Peninsula for about 2 hours and was unhappy with me. Unfortunately, neither DIA nor pinalove work like escort services, and one cannot simply go back to the web site when there is a no show and get a girl into the bedroom in a reasonable amount of time. I suppose the answer is to limit myself to a single girl, and just hang onto her when she arrives the first time at my hotel. I could have a main squeeze at my hotel and visit an incall location once or twice a day when I have "special needs". I have tried the massage places on Burgos and this has proved to be an immense waste of time. KTVs sounded like they might be perfect, except I know very little about them other than the horror stories. Are there actual brothels in Manila where one could go for a few hours of discrete fun?

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2663134]It is not hard to find willing girls to fill the calendar, even when one is relatively explicit. But getting them to the hotel on time, or knowing when to admit that a girl is going to be a no show, is exasperating. Some guys here line up multiple ladies for the same time period. I did that once and had a girl waiting for me in the lobby of my hotel at midnight while I was fucking another girl. To make a long story short, I made an embarrassing situation into a totally humiliating one (for all parties concerned).[/QUOTE]Offer to organize a grab for them, then you can track their arrival time on the app. If they can't give you a pickup point you know they are not coming any time soon. A lot cheaper than a second hotel room.

[QUOTE=GDreams;2663355]Offer to organize a grab for them, then you can track their arrival time on the app. If they can't give you a pickup point you know they are not coming any time soon. A lot cheaper than a second hotel room.[/QUOTE]I have written some unflattering items about Grab during the pandemic. In my experience here is another (and not Grab's fault, it became the law): They stopped allowing the rider (your girl) to enter the vehicle without the account owner (you). Thick in the head, I tried that several times in both a provincial city and the big city. I even ordered up a Grab taxi to transport my girl from my hotel to her place (7 minute ride at 10 pm light traffic). I was standing with the girl at the curb outside the hotel when the driver arrived. She hopped in the back and I closed the door while standing at the curb. A moment later she opened the door and the driver asked if I was going with her. He refused to take her home without me in the car. I offered him an extra p100 tip cash and he still refused. She got out of the car and he drove away. SH*t, the curfew had just started and the girl was an 'additional' guest, allowed into the hotel at that time only 10 am-9 pm, and we were already an hour past that, with a guard at the door staring at us. An empty tryke passed by and the driver agreed to take her home for p100. Everything worked out that time, but other times when I sent a Grab to a location to bring a girl to my place (or ST hotel), the driver refused to drive her because I was not present (which, BTW, you still have to pay for it, as the driver has wasted his time and not gotten the expected fare; it bills out to my CC).

However that was last year (I stopped doing that, duh), and things might have changed (or might soon).

Another reminder about taxis. Those entering soon will find taxis have plastic divider sheets that completely cut off the driver's seat from the passenger and rear seats (and the front passenger seat from the rear seats). Some drivers don't allow the front seat to be used, and only 2 passengers in the back seat (for a long time that became a Grab rule). If you have two young sweeties in tow, you might need more than 1 taxi. OTOH sometimes I jump in the front seat myself (my preferred seat) and nobody peeps.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2663134]...Are there actual brothels in Manila where one could go for a few hours of discrete fun?[/QUOTE]I read somewhere in the Manila forum that they have some brothels scattered around in Manila, where you can select a girl and take her to a room on the premises to complete the session. I have some names for you but I have to look them up. Send me a pm. One of them is called AirForce1 I believe.

You can also go to Quezon city, where you may find quite a few MP / KTVs along Quezon Avenue. I say may because I visited these places before Covid. Not sure if they are open now. Also, review post #400 on the Quezon forum.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2663134]I am really looking for something a bit on the exotic side. I usually just fish off of Date in Asia (DIA) and [URL]pinalove.com[/URL] and end up with more girls than I can handle. The trick, which I have not mastered, is timing. [/QUOTE]The solution is quite simple. Never, ever wait for a pina. Just go about your day doing your stuff, give them a place and time to meet within walking distance and should they show up just walk down to meet them for an interview or straight back to the room. Should they not show up then another will be there soon.

Get your three shots per day but forget about trying for split second timing. If you want a girl at 10,2 and 8 pm then the PI is the wrong place to come.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2663134]I am really looking for something a bit on the exotic side. I usually just fish off of Date in Asia (DIA) and [URL]pinalove.com[/URL] and end up with more girls than I can handle. The trick, which I have not mastered, is timing. For example, I have often arranged a lunch date, with the goal to have a nice lunch, go back to my room for the fun, and send the girl on her way and then move on to girl #2. Girl #2 is usually a late dinner date and an overnight. The idea is to have sex with three times with two different girls each day.[/QUOTE]Curious: my profiles on FC, DIA and PL usually sell me as a nice guy who travels frequently to the Phils on business and looking for the right girl for a long-term (total BS). While I've had good success with that method, I'm wondering about being more direct at the risk of turning off some, but turning on others. The reason I put my profile that way is to present myself as safe and find quality girls. On the flip side, with my next trip I don't want to beat around the Bush or waste time (I won't have enough time to waste). I was wondering what your approach is in terms of your profile (open question to anyone reading). Do you come out swinging on your profile description with: I'm in town for a few days and looking for someone ST? No strings attached.

Thanks for any input!

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2663134]I am really looking for something a bit on the exotic side. I usually just fish off of Date in Asia (DIA) and [URL]pinalove.com[/URL] and end up with more girls than I can handle. The trick, which I have not mastered, is timing. For example, I have often arranged a lunch date, with the goal to have a nice lunch, go back to my room for the fun, and send the girl on her way and then move on to girl #2. Girl #2 is usually a late dinner date and an overnight. The idea is to have sex with three times with two different girls each day.

It is not hard to find willing girls to fill the calendar, even when one is relatively explicit. But getting them to the hotel on time, or knowing when to admit that a girl is going to be a no show, is exasperating. Some guys here line up multiple ladies for the same time period. I did that once and had a girl waiting for me in the lobby of my hotel at midnight while I was fucking another girl. To make a long story short, I made an embarrassing situation into a totally humiliating one (for all parties concerned).

My next trip, I got a room at the Peninsula and another at the New World Makati and sent half the girls to one hotel and the other half to the other. There certainly was no overlap, but this a waste of money, and the timing issues were not any better. One girl sat in the lobby of the Peninsula for about 2 hours and was unhappy with me. Unfortunately, neither DIA nor pinalove work like escort services, and one cannot simply go back to the web site when there is a no show and get a girl into the bedroom in a reasonable amount of time. I suppose the answer is to limit myself to a single girl, and just hang onto her when she arrives the first time at my hotel. I could have a main squeeze at my hotel and visit an incall location once or twice a day when I have "special needs". I have tried the massage places on Burgos and this has proved to be an immense waste of time. KTVs sounded like they might be perfect, except I know very little about them other than the horror stories. Are there actual brothels in Manila where one could go for a few hours of discrete fun?[/QUOTE]For me, when I want to have 3 girls in one day, I like to set-up 2 new dates and the other one a repeat (someone I had sex already in the past or someone I went on a date before but couldn't close the deal in the first date but I know for sure I will close the deal in the second date because of the vibe I get, I had some girls told me: "I don't like having sex on the first date, but I will be open on the second date", so just to make sure that I don't waste my time again, I will tell them we will go right away to my condo or we will go to a short hotel, if they are hesitant then I won't meet them).

Is do-able to have sex with 3 new girls in one day (3 girls that you meet for the first time). But is hard to achieve, I was able to do it only once (remember they are not escorts and they are not expecting to get pay, they are normal girls who are really looking to fall in love and of course have the Canadian dream, LOL).

My advice is very simple: Set the first date in the morning before lunch, then the second one in the middle or late afternoom (sometimes I eat 2 lunches with the first two girls), and the third girl is at night, that one usually gets to sleep in my condo and then by 8 or 9 am she has to go so I can prepare for the first girl on the next day.

Make sure you videocall with all the girls so they trust you more in advance, sometimes there are some who wants to back down because they feel nervous of meeting you for the first time or wants to bring a friend at the last minute, you need to let them know that you are mad about it because they ruin your plans, most of them will feel bad about it and stop their nonesense and insecurities, best way to get their trust back is to make a quick videocall again and make them feel comfortable with you again.

Just don't get discourage if your timing doesn't workout, and a girl comes 2-3 hours late, worst case scenario you will meet 2 girls instead of 3, which is not bad either.

A couple of times it looked like I was going to meet only 2 girls instead of 3 because one of them was very late, but I was persistent and I didn't give-up on having 3 girls, I just change the meet-up time of the next girl and it workout (of course you have to make the date shorter and be faster with them). One time the third girl cancel because it was too late to meet, so I went to Tinder and I ended up hooking up with a Tinder girl. Just make sure to chat with girls close to your area, don't waste your time with someone far away, because time is your worst enemy at that moment, also avoid the escorts if that's not your thing like me (Just don't give up, because trust me some girls chatting on Tinder late at night are bored and looking for something to do, usually the party girls), just make sure to wear condoms when you have sex with them, because women who easily go out with a stranger at night at the last minute and hook up with you, have more likely been doing that with other guys also.

For me the big secret when you are trying to hook-up with 3 normal girls in a day, specially to make sure how interest it they are with you is to text them enough during the day of the meet-up (well not too much of course, just enough to have their whole interest and investment in you that day). The more you text eachother the day of the meet-up (again videocall helps alot) the more likely that they won't cancel and they won't be late.

Because honestly once you guys meet, you have the advantage that she likes you enough to be with you, a stranger, on a first date (I know some oldies here will say: Or she likes you because of your money, well if that's your thing, then it should be even better and easy for you), but for the guys looking to meet normal girls, the rest is up to you, play your game hard, and show them that they can trust you and that they can see a future together with you (yeah it sounds corny, but that's how women qualify you from their first impressions with you). Of course the more game you have the better it will end for you, but in case it doesn't workout just remember you still have 2 other girls to hook-up with that day, so just get her on the second date (I don't do third dates, so is either second date or bye bye), you will be surprise how easy girls are in the second date.