Pattaya Reports

Not all girls are available to barfine as a warning. If you spot a girl and want to buy her a drink to losen her up for a barfine, make sure you ask if she barfines. If your ok with buying a drink just to talk to a cute girl and aren't bothered with spending a few extra bucks, do so and enjoy her company. That being said, I was at Pandora agogo in LK Metro, bought a girl a ladydrink and when I asked about barfining she basically cut me off any possible takeout. She then went onstage and then came back to sit down with her friend, mamasan was soon in front asking if I wanted to buy them both drinks when I informed her "this girl won't barfine, why would I buy ladydrinks" and walked out. They don't want to barfine for whatever reason but are still decent company, I'll buy them a drink but if they flat out refuse to go with you outside the club but will go with others, then I tell them to shove off.

[QUOTE=Allover;1838680]Yes this is great info. Thanks for posting. Does the Jomtien baht bus charge 10 baht to go from Pattaya to Jomtien?[/QUOTE]Yes B10 from the corner of south road and 2nd road to about soi 9 on Jomtien beach road. They wait until full to go though.

[QUOTE=Cusland;1838885]I live in Pattaya and speak fluent Thai also. Yes you get the occasional comment but maybe more is directed at you? Do you sit all day drinking LEO in a wife beater never smiling or using your fluent Thai to be polite to people? Couple of questions for you. Q 1. Why are you on a sex forum if you're not sleeping with Thai women. Q 2. If you hate or distrust half the population (or more) that much why don't you fuck off somewhere where you actually like and respect the people?[/QUOTE]Oh dear dear, must have touched a nerve Mr Cusland, go back and read the posts my touchy friend, where did I say I never slept with Thai women? I never said that, I said I don't get involved in relations with them, I fuck them short time, I even stated here they make great fuck buddies. For gods sake, can you not read dear man,? Maybe I should write it in Thai for you?

Secondly, I can live where the fuck I like, and I can comment on what the fuck I like, because of free speech, now if you don't like my posts, you can fuck off from the forum, its easy enough, our simply don't read my posts. Oh, and thirdly, I don't drink either, so, no, don't drink LEO, or beat the wife, so your wrong on all 3 points, never mind sir, we can't all be right can we? Have a nice day.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1838968]Not all girls are available to barfine as a warning. If you spot a girl and want to buy her a drink to losen her up for a barfine, make sure you ask if she barfines. If your ok with buying a drink just to talk to a cute girl and aren't bothered with spending a few extra bucks, do so and enjoy her company. That being said, I was at Pandora agogo in LK Metro, bought a girl a ladydrink and when I asked about barfining she basically cut me off any possible takeout. She then went onstage and then came back to sit down with her friend, mamasan was soon in front asking if I wanted to buy them both drinks when I informed her "this girl won't barfine, why would I buy ladydrinks" and walked out. They don't want to barfine for whatever reason but are still decent company, I'll buy them a drink but if they flat out refuse to go with you outside the club but will go with others, then I tell them to shove off.[/QUOTE] That's right. Always better to ask them first. I get my drink first then talk to the one or two that interest me. After a minute or two of conversation, if I am considering taking the girl out of the bar, I will ask her if she can barfine tonight. This way at least I know she is available or not. She might say no; already been barfined and waiting for the guy to pick her up; on her period, etc. In that case, no need to buy her a drink.
Now, if she is actually good company, and I want to keep around a little bit, sure she can have a drink.
But for the one I am thinking of barfining, I generally ask upfront. Better to find out sooner than later. Plus if she is not available, you can immediately start to look for an alternate, or finish your drink and go to another bar.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1839176]That's right. Always better to ask them first. I get my drink first then talk to the one or two that interest me. After a minute or two of conversation, if I am considering taking the girl out of the bar, I will ask her if she can barfine tonight. This way at least I know she is available or not. She might say no; already been barfined and waiting for the guy to pick her up; on her period, etc. In that case, no need to buy her a drink.
Now, if she is actually good company, and I want to keep around a little bit, sure she can have a drink.
But for the one I am thinking of barfining, I generally ask upfront. Better to find out sooner than later. Plus if she is not available, you can immediately start to look for an alternate, or finish your drink and go to another bar.[/QUOTE]Be careful PL99. You are making to much common sense.

What these guys need to understand is they are not your fucking girlfriend. You are entering into a business transaction, weather a BF or just for her company in the club and you should act accordingly. Find out where you stand up front as you would in any Bizz transaction before you pay.

Example:

Hello, I would like a Pizza. Here's $20. Ok here is your pizza. Wait I wanted pepperoni and this is just cheese. You didn't say you wanted pepperoni so fuck off.

Always best to be clear on what you want up front.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1822554]It is not a personal invention, but a method that was discovered / developed by some statisticians to find an answer to the following problem:

"How to choose the best candidate from a list of candidates, given that you do not know what quality the next candidate has [B]and[/B] once a candidate has been examined and not chosen, you cannot go back and choose her".

This is of course very close to our mongering experience: you see a lovely in one bar, but you hesitate to take her since there is likely to be a better one in the next bar. But if you don't find that next more lovely one, it appears your first choice is now already taken by another punter.

So how to solve this problem?

It turns out to be quite simple (I spare you the underlying statistics).

Just go on your usual bar / agogo / club / disco / . . . Crawl and choose as you usually do. Interview likely candidates and give them a score. That is of course the hairy part and is highly individual. Your high score may not be my high score, but that doesn't matter provided you use a consistent scoring system during the same experiment and a higher score means the candidate is better in your eyes.

Remember the highest score among the first three or four (the actual cut-off point lies somewhere between 3 and 4, but one cannot do a "half interview") , but don't take any of these candidates. Just be cool and relaxed about this rule: if you meet a girl that gives you an instant hard-on and makes you almost cream your shorts just by looking into her eyes, by all means take her and f*ck the experiment and science.

Then continue your quest and keep on scoring next candidates until you find one that scores higher than the top score of the first three. That's the one to take.

It can be proven statistically that it is more likely than not that if you continue your search (and assume you cannot interview more than 10 candidates in one night) you will not find a better one. If I remember well, the odds are about 60 against 40 this method finds you the best candidate.

Of course you will agree it is a rather strange method: examining three candidates knowing you will not pick them. Though luck for those early birds, indeed and you will probably best move to another bar after each interview in order not to draw strange glances. Also it takes some effort and time (and money) that we cannot always invest.

But there is a short-cut possible!

Assuming the population of WG remains more or less the same during a certain period of time (say a few weeks maximum) [B]and[/B] you can keep your scoring system the same, then each next night you can simply skip the "first three interviews" and use the highest score of your first night as the threshold point for the next nights.

Mind you this method does not guarantee you end up with the best possible candidate, but it will guarantee you that your choice is likely to be better than making a random choice from a sequential list of candidates where the quality of the "next candidate" is an unknown.[/QUOTE]Dude, the Universe is fucking with you and you don't seem to realize it! It's a mathematical Universe, silly! You only think you can control the events of the future. It's all an illusion. LOL.

I am currently in Pattaya and wow its full. Lots of Chinese, Russian, Indian Guys and wherever they come from. I even saw a whole chinese damily leaving a Gogo. And I spotted a Gogo I overlooked on my last visits: Champions Gogo. Maybe I take a look tonight as most gogos yesterday were not really to my liking.

Whats Up:

I visited just a few minutes after they opened. They were still going down the list of girls and calling every girl by name. So every girl was standing at the pole / dancing areas. Nice experience and nice decoration too, but like last time I just did not like the place.

Mistys:

I was there around midnight and although I did find the girls to be not attractive they were fun even if the place had only a handful of customers. So I had a good time there.

Angelwitch:

No reason to go there.

Sapphire:

I like the place and a few girls there. But they are just a bit too short for my taste.

Living Dolls 1:

Probably won't visit again.

Iron and Skyfall:

Quite good but also quite a few chinese there. Also Lineup seems to be thinned out / some good girls missing when I was there. I saw some thai customers there too.

I would say all in all it's quite hard to find a good girl. At the moment.

[QUOTE=Steppenwolf11;1839272]I would say all in all it's quite hard to find a good girl. At the moment.[/QUOTE]I was a bit shocked at your statement until I remembered you were the guy who wrote this.

[QUOTE=Steppenwolf11;1831021]I must write too about what kind of women I am looking for because I don't look for small (around 150 cm) young (look like schoolgirl) but for a more taller (at least 160 cm) and also a bit mor mature woman. Not exactly MILF but say mid-twenties. I did see girls looking like 14 and girls with a superb body. But if she looks and behaves like a schoolgirl its just nothing for me (exceptions are rare but exist)[/QUOTE]The most discussed WS gogo's are likely not the best place to find your type of girls. They're full of young petite girls. You may want to try some of the lesser discussed gogo's like Casanovy's (sp?) or a place like Marine Disco for the older girls.

[QUOTE=How14;1838523]Yes you will get girls going with you from I bar for 1500/2000 long time, but usually that's after you've spent a fortune buying them drinks.[/QUOTE]Yes that's the rub with Ibar. Sometimes it is worthwhile to just offer her a little more off the bat (say 500 baht) and escape that drink tax (especially if she is there with a big group of friends). And you will have her back in your "loom" for much longer too.

Then again, you can develop a better rapport when you drink and party with them. Which leads to a better experience overall. So there is no exact science to this. Just don't let them lead you by the nose and take charge when you feel its time to go home. This is a country where the man is king. Don't forget that.

[QUOTE=Steppenwolf11;1839272]
I would say all in all it's quite hard to find a good girl. At the moment.[/QUOTE]If you are looking for older more mature girls you just have to go to the right places. A lot of them at Red Car or Insomnia. I's skip WS gogos and focus on LK Metro Area or Soi 7-8. I think Pattaya will be a gold mine for you.

I have the opposite problem. I like the younger girls. And it can really be hard to find good ones at times.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1838283]
Reflecting back I couldn't help but to compare Thai girls with local girls here in Vietnam. Its better for me in Vietnam. I like Vietnamese girls better. There are lots of options for me here, paid and free, however Pattaya felt like luxury living compared to the everyday hassles of Vietnam. I might go back to Pattaya but not for the women but its a cheap option with $95 flights to BKK and 122 baht bus to the beach. Next time I may just bring my own girl and be a normal smuck in Jomtien but if I was back in America in my little cubicle living a boring life with no action then Pattaya would be paradise, and I can see the attraction, and what's most important is [U]to do whatever the fuck you want to do! [/U].[/QUOTE]I envy you living in VN, man. Girls there are very lovely and so affectionate. I have a VN girl that I meet up with a few times a year and its is always magic.

I feel like the scene there is so much more restricted there and very difficult if you are not a local. But it must be amazing to be a local living there. What I wouldn't give to be in your shoes!

1-Read a lot about DD girls being mechanical. More like just doing there job rather than enjoying it. This kind of attitude is definitely not good for customers.

2-In my upcoming trip I'm planning to opt for DD girl in the first night rather than going to gogo / night club. I don't know whether I'm doing the right thing. Someone experienced can help me I guess.

3-I checked out the DD website & they have quite a list of girls listed over there. Do they list all the available girls over there or there are other more girls available if someone visit to their place?

4-I believe all the girls working in DD are available for LT out call. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1839198]Dude, the Universe is fucking with you and you don't seem to realize it! It's a mathematical Universe, silly! You only think you can control the events of the future. It's all an illusion. LOL.[/QUOTE]Man, I'm a Buddhist and an ordained Priest of the Church of the Latter Day Dude, so I know what life is about and how to manage it and that it is all illusion.

I don't want to control the events of the future, but some judicious stacking of the cards in my favor can do no harm!

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1839428]Man, I'm a Buddhist and an ordained Priest of the Church of the Latter Day Dude, so I know what life is about and how to manage it and that it is all illusion.

I don't want to control the events of the future, but some judicious stacking of the cards in my favor can do no harm![/QUOTE]Ok, I'll try to work on that for you! .

But, be forewarned it will probably produce other, unforeseen, higher and lower order side effects, in your local Universe. . Haha. LOL!

Your friendly Genie!

[QUOTE=MusicalToM;1839409]1-Read a lot about DD girls being mechanical. More like just doing there job rather than enjoying it. This kind of attitude is definitely not good for customers.

2-In my upcoming trip I'm planning to opt for DD girl in the first night rather than going to gogo / night club. I don't know whether I'm doing the right thing. Someone experienced can help me I guess.

3-I checked out the DD website & they have quite a list of girls listed over there. Do they list all the available girls over there or there are other more girls available if someone visit to their place?

4-I believe all the girls working in DD are available for LT out call. Correct me if I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]There is a ton of information posted about Devil's Den on the forum. If you need more "comfort" simply call the establishment and speak with David. He is a real gentleman and will help address all your questions. All the girls there are genuinely bisexual. To avoid the mechanical feel I would advise you to select one girl and then let her pick the second girl. She will pick the one she is most comfortable with, allowing for a real good experience. Prices are fixed and the girls will do everything that they have signed up for (as mentioned in the website on their respective pages). But you have to ask for it. Also, once you pay up for the time, you can have as many pops as you can manage within that time slot and the girls will do everything in their power to encourage you to do so. The experience is best enjoyed at DD premises, as their rooms are truly well equipped for this. Back in your room, its just not the same.

The girls listed are all available for take out and the price structure is published. I would advise you to NOT engage a DD girl for LT, however. There are other fish in the ocean.