General Reports

[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2510568]It is a very common scam by meseros. If you're sitting with a puta and buy drinks and pay with pesos, they will bring back a ton of coins in change, which will undoubtedly be short. They're relying on you to not look like a cheapskate in front of the puta and count every last coin.[/QUOTE]This is 100% accurate. When you pay with dollars, the most change you'll get back is three quarters. When you pay with pesos, if you don't have exact change you'll get back a stack of coins. Not only is it an easy scam by the meseros, but now you have a stack of coins in your pocket. Pay with dollars in the zona bars -- it is WAY easier and the exchange rate won't bite you (most of the time it's in your favor).

[QUOTE=Thunder12;2510737]I discovered Tijuana, this forum, and this lifestyle about 5 years ago. It was mind blowing, to live in southern California and not be sex deprived ever again. Went from being overworked / depressed to being as happy and free as I've ever been. Then I remember in 2018 or so I had a collection of thoughts like "what could possibly change in Mexico that would kill off zona norte? And a pandemic didn't even cross my mind. The only plausible thought I had was that if the Mexican government put its foot down and forced zona norte to shut down. Then fast forward to now and covid happened, and zona isn't the same as before. The reason I'm explaining all of this is because of a recent trend I've noticed on my social media this week. I am 'friends' on social media with about a dozen chicas that I met in Tijuana (but they live elsewhere), and 3 of them have vowed to not return to Tijuana or this lifestyle again. They're starting to get their shit together, even with a child at home. I spoke with one yesterday who said she enrolled in university and is started classes in January. Another one has started a banking job at Banamex. Another one got a covid scare and is now back home living with her mom and helping their family business. All 3 of them have transformed their social media and removed their sexy photos and now look like average, normal women. Aside from working in the zona, they seem completely normal and I absolutely wouldn't mind dating any of them. They've never begged me for money and we occasionally talk on the phone / etc. I'm going to invite each of them, individually, to 3 or 4 days in Cancun and see if there's chemistry with any.[/QUOTE]In Tijuana, girls come and go. Its a vast country with a lot of poor people. My guess is there will always be putas unless the religion steps in. My advice is when you go with a girl, always ask for her phone #. She may hang around away from zona norte.

[QUOTE=Thunder12;2510737]I discovered Tijuana, this forum, and this lifestyle about 5 years ago. It was mind blowing, to live in southern California and not be sex deprived ever again. Went from being overworked / depressed to being as happy and free as I've ever been. Then I remember in 2018 or so I had a collection of thoughts like "what could possibly change in Mexico that would kill off zona norte? And a pandemic didn't even cross my mind. The only plausible thought I had was that if the Mexican government put its foot down and forced zona norte to shut down. Then fast forward to now and covid happened, and zona isn't the same as before. The reason I'm explaining all of this is because of a recent trend I've noticed on my social media this week. I am 'friends' on social media with about a dozen chicas that I met in Tijuana (but they live elsewhere), and 3 of them have vowed to not return to Tijuana or this lifestyle again. They're starting to get their shit together, even with a child at home. I spoke with one yesterday who said she enrolled in university and is started classes in January. Another one has started a banking job at Banamex. Another one got a covid scare and is now back home living with her mom and helping their family business. All 3 of them have transformed their social media and removed their sexy photos and now look like average, normal women. Aside from working in the zona, they seem completely normal and I absolutely wouldn't mind dating any of them. They've never begged me for money and we occasionally talk on the phone / etc. I'm going to invite each of them, individually, to 3 or 4 days in Cancun and see if there's chemistry with any.[/QUOTE]Great Post. Extremely Thoughtful.

When Covid first appeared I had a hunch it was going to be a game changer for mongering. I got rid of my Tijuana apartment about 2 months into it. I just couldn't see myself down there mongering any time soon. Unfortunately I was right. I would have been paying for an empty apartment.

The girls continuing to work now are the desperate types who don't care about themselves or you. The guys going down right now have a choice to make. They don't NEED to be doing this but I would assume most are in the aging category or just not giving a shit living reckless lives like many mongers do including myself. I don't knock it and I understand why. But even then I am not ready to condone driving off the cliff. Not just yet. If the vaccines are a failure and there is no hope DEATH BY PUSSY is better than DEATH WITH NO PUSSY. I just don't think we have reached that point yet. We might.

Any girl with half a brain and / or a modicum of family support would get out of Tijuana immediately. It seems like you know some fine women.

I WILL monger again once the vaccines are into circulation but even then we have another year of masks and risk protocols to adhere to until we get rid of it. This is worse than AIDS IMO for the mongering community.

It has been a really hard time for older mongers who like you (and me) were living the dream.

I am in the same boat as you. I had a really nice life going for myself between SD and Tijuana and random overseas trips.

I grieve for all mongers. Wishing you all can maintain enough discipline to get through this and come out victorious on the other end. These are hard times for us. Best wishes and godspeed to all this upcoming FESTIVUS.

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[QUOTE=Artisttyp;2510881]Great Post. Extremely Thoughtful.

When Covid first appeared I had a hunch it was going to be a game changer for mongering. I got rid of my Tijuana apartment about 2 months into it. I just couldn't see myself down there mongering any time soon. Unfortunately I was right. I would have been paying for an empty apartment.

The girls continuing to work now are the desperate types who don't care about themselves or you. The guys going down right now have a choice to make. They don't NEED to be doing this but I would assume most are in the aging category or just not giving a shit living reckless lives like many mongers do including myself. I don't knock it and I understand why. But even then I am not ready to condone driving off the cliff. Not just yet. If the vaccines are a failure and there is no hope DEATH BY PUSSY is better than DEATH WITH NO PUSSY. I just don't think we have reached that point yet. We might.

Any girl with half a brain and / or a modicum of family support would get out of Tijuana immediately. It seems like you know some fine women.

I WILL monger again once the vaccines are into circulation but even then we have another year of masks and risk protocols to adhere to until we get rid of it. This is worse than AIDS IMO for the mongering community.

It has been a really hard time for older mongers who like you (and me) were living the dream.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that. Very insightful. The women I chase and choose to remain in touch with aren't necessarily the 10/10 chicas in the bars. Those ones usually have dull personalities. I try to make a connection (it helps that I speak Spanish) with the chicas at the bar before even going upstairs. If I can make them laugh and there's a hint of chemistry, we'll go upstairs. Whether or not they decide to remain in touch with me is 50/50. As my spanish has improved, my odds have greatly improved.

My own belief is that prostitution is something that girl does for whatever reason. The smart ones do it part time or a part of their life. The thing to realize is that prostitution is not a lifetime career. Once their looks go downhill guys will no longer go with them. There is some girls like Carina that has been working for years on end. I feel sorry for the girls that I see for years and years in the Zona. The best girls are the ones work part time. Olivia told me recently that she is moving and got a job as a sign language interpreter. I wished her the best and told said that is a good choice. When Lindsey quit I wished her good luck as well. Phone numbers do help. But most of them go bad quickly. I find that usually phone numbers are only good for a weeks. This is because the girls are constantly losing them for some odd reason.

[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2510872]In Tijuana, girls come and go. Its a vast country with a lot of poor people. My guess is there will always be putas unless the religion steps in. My advice is when you go with a girl, always ask for her phone #. She may hang around away from zona norte.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hargow20;2510895]MWhen Lindsey quit I wished her good luck as well..[/QUOTE]What ever became of her? Did she move in with a monger she was seeing?

[QUOTE=Thunder12;2510737]I discovered Tijuana, this forum, and this lifestyle about 5 years ago. It was mind blowing, to live in southern California and not be sex deprived ever again. Went from being overworked / depressed to being as happy and free as I've ever been. Then I remember in 2018 or so I had a collection of thoughts like "what could possibly change in Mexico that would kill off zona norte? And a pandemic didn't even cross my mind. The only plausible thought I had was that if the Mexican government put its foot down and forced zona norte to shut down. Then fast forward to now and covid happened, and zona isn't the same as before. The reason I'm explaining all of this is because of a recent trend I've noticed on my social media this week. I am 'friends' on social media with about a dozen chicas that I met in Tijuana (but they live elsewhere), and 3 of them have vowed to not return to Tijuana or this lifestyle again. They're starting to get their shit together, even with a child at home. I spoke with one yesterday who said she enrolled in university and is started classes in January. Another one has started a banking job at Banamex. Another one got a covid scare and is now back home living with her mom and helping their family business. All 3 of them have transformed their social media and removed their sexy photos and now look like average, normal women. Aside from working in the zona, they seem completely normal and I absolutely wouldn't mind dating any of them. They've never begged me for money and we occasionally talk on the phone / etc. I'm going to invite each of them, individually, to 3 or 4 days in Cancun and see if there's chemistry with any.[/QUOTE]75% of the HK girls were always part time anyway. Either they left for other sex paying jobs in different countries or Southern Mexico, or they left for different jobs or some would simply travel to Europe 6 months a year. Some return many don't. All can get a boyfriend to pay a lot of their bills but for reasons don't want one at that moment. I would use caution in contacting girls who have left. All woman always have a love interest. I've never met a halfway decent lookin American woman who isn't constantly getting hit on almost everyday. These woman will have men they are seeing, maybe back with ex boyfriends, some, if they know, will have anger towards guys who paid to bang her, almost all will have angry ex husband's ex boyfriends who are mad they sell pussy when the husband probably had to beg for his sex with her when married. It can lead to dangerous situation one Colombian man called me for a year for my address due to 2 coffee dates from tinder with his ex wife.

When do why'all think it will re-open again? I absolutely loved inside of HK back in early Nov. But as always my timing was off. Friday afternoons and Sat just too busy, too much vice, the Manager of the shuttle back to the border a real AH to me yelling me give the driver a good tip which I gave them all regardless. I re-booked mid January last month to arrive Sun. 17th and Monday 18th with discounts on Cascadas rooms and not so much pretense! Think HK back open full by then? If not at least I can rebook my SWA to go partying in Florida nightclubs. .

[QUOTE=KCQuestor;2510843]This is 100% accurate. When you pay with dollars, the most change you'll get back is three quarters. When you pay with pesos, if you don't have exact change you'll get back a stack of coins. Not only is it an easy scam by the meseros, but now you have a stack of coins in your pocket. Pay with dollars in the zona bars -- it is WAY easier and the exchange rate won't bite you (most of the time it's in your favor).[/QUOTE]Fuck those meseros. I use to feel that way. Now I stop and count every fucking coin. If they will pull that shit, I'll play along. A real Mexican damn sure would. So, I count every coin, and then, assuming it's correct, I tip the guy 10 pesos. 15 if I'm feeling generous. Then I keep the stack of coins on the table, and the next round I use the coins to pay for it. Two can play at that game.

Oh, and in lots of "local" bars, if you pay in dollars you'll get change in pesos. That's not an issue the the gringo-centric zona bars.

Lindsey to San Diego east county. She had a child. So my guess is she is taking care of her kid.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;2510898]What ever became of her? Did she move in with a monger she was seeing?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hargow20;2510951]Lindsey to San Diego east county. She had a child. So my guess is she is taking care of her kid.[/QUOTE]Good for her. I hope that she is doing well. She was cool to talk to and session with.

[QUOTE=Hargow20;2510895]My own belief is that prostitution is something that girl does for whatever reason. The smart ones do it part time or a part of their life. The thing to realize is that prostitution is not a lifetime career. Once their looks go downhill guys will no longer go with them. There is some girls like Carina that has been working for years on end. I feel sorry for the girls that I see for years and years in the Zona. The best girls are the ones work part time. Olivia told me recently that she is moving and got a job as a sign language interpreter. I wished her the best and told said that is a good choice. When Lindsey quit I wished her good luck as well. Phone numbers do help. But most of them go bad quickly. I find that usually phone numbers are only good for a weeks. This is because the girls are constantly losing them for some odd reason.[/QUOTE]I think Mexicans tend to buy short term phone contracts. At least the chicas do. Many of the chicas I know send me their new phone number every 3 months or so because their old contract (chip) expired.

What do women want? American Buck $$$ and Bad Boys. . . And they can find these things in Zona Norte. . .

" . . . Women (as a group) have signaled to men that what they really want are exciting sexy badboys, not boring loyal dudes. It isn't that women no longer want to marry beta providers, they just don't want to waste a day more of their youth and fertility on their husband than absolutely necessary. As a result, some up and coming boring loyal dudes aren't knocking themselves out in their twenties while they wait for their future wife to tire of having sex with other men. Wente (partially) understands this too. . . What Wente doesn't understand is that timing is everything. From an economic point of view, women are dividing up sexual access that traditionally would have been reserved only for their husband into two blocks. The first block contains their most attractive and fertile years, and it is dedicated to no strings sex with exciting badboys. Then, once women reach what Rollo calls the epiphany phase, they want to bargain sexual access in their remaining (older and less fertile) years for maximum beta buck $$$ {aka Alimony}" [URL]https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2017/10/04/theyre-back-in-your-20s-where-you-left-them/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Hargow20;2510895]My own belief is that prostitution is something that girl does for whatever reason. The smart ones do it part time or a part of their life. The thing to realize is that prostitution is not a lifetime career. Once their looks go downhill guys will no longer go with them. There is some girls like Carina that has been working for years on end. I feel sorry for the girls that I see for years and years in the Zona. The best girls are the ones work part time. Olivia told me recently that she is moving and got a job as a sign language interpreter. I wished her the best and told said that is a good choice. When Lindsey quit I wished her good luck as well. Phone numbers do help. But most of them go bad quickly. I find that usually phone numbers are only good for a weeks. This is because the girls are constantly losing them for some odd reason.[/QUOTE]

LIndsey gave good service. But she had cold personality. She was not rude, but impersonal often.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;2510963]Good for her. I hope that she is doing well. She was cool to talk to and session with.[/QUOTE]

I'm writing this report in the general section because it covers various topics. I arrived Friday night and I can tell you basically everything is open and business as usual in Centro. In fact, Revo was buzzing aside from the businesses that shuttered because of COVID. El Copeo was packed and the 2nd floor bar across from Hotel Rio Rita is an awesome place with ambiance, craft beer and hot high class Mexicanas. Having said all that, the businesses have at least some semblance of protocols compared to the states I've been in lately domestically. Everywhere conducted a temperature check and required application of hand sanitizer prior to entry. The Zona was quiet on the surface but not inside the makeshift hotel clubs. Those were buzzing. I'm not one of those COVID excessive worriers, but I'm not looking to get it either. If you go to the 7th floor of Hong Kong, then you're someone who is intentionally trying to get COVID. People were packed inside in a manner that would make a perfect picture illustration in a dictionary for superspreader event. The main hallway was not people moving and instead a bunch of young, asymptotic SoCal guys standing shoulder to shoulder with chicas. I saw it and bolted faster than a fart in the wind. Tropical has a nice setup, but Chicago had the funniest girls. Finally, I'm a menudo junkie and might have found my new favorite joint in Ricardo's on Calle 7. For my nightcap, I banged out one of my faves to take a stroll down memory lane.