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In addition, if the last number (door number) for a calle is an even number, it indicates the north side of calle. For carrera, the even number indicates the east side.
[QUOTE=Bart1;1821073]#56 would be calle 56, so from the corner of calle 56 go up carrera 47 to door number 34, #34 wud be 34 meters up from the corner.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1820408]Thanks for the great report, amigo. Sound like Paris got better..[/QUOTE]I agree. Paris got better or has now a much bigger lineup. I also noticed that most casas had more girls than my previous trips. I don't know if this trend was because it was the month of December or something else.
Thanks man.
Another great and thorough report.
Glad to see your trip went well and without major incident.
So did you ever hook up with any off the whatsapp girls for off the book meetings?
How about any of the night / strip clubs?
If so what was the damage? I guess they know what you pay in house.
Also how were the metro rides? Pretty safe? Quick?
Better than using a taxi?
[QUOTE=Cerebro;1820285]Another awesome December trip in Medellin. This trip started in the mid December till the end of December 2015. Here are the hightlights...[/QUOTE]
You will be fine.
Sure there may be some bias against dark skin but it won't impede your fun.
As another poster said I have only seen working girls get hesitant in the far east (Indonesia and Cambodia to be precise) and it's more a fear out of too large a cock hurting them.
Just be your charming young lad and they will be cool with you.
As for non-pros who knows?
For all of us YMMV. I imagine age and Spanish skills will probably be the biggest factor when it comes to that.
[QUOTE=Showdown;1819156]I have bored of the DR and crave for something new. I have seen that flight prices to Medellin are not too bad so I perused ISG to see how is the P4 P scene there. I have to say I am a bit nervous about going to Medellin because of all of the drug stories you here. Killings, robberies. You know Pablo Escobar type things. I do not and never will use or have anything to do with illegal substances. But has anyone found themselves concerned about this when visiting Medellin?
Second, as always, I am curious about how blacks are treated when visiting working girls. Yes I know a small part of the population in Colombia is black. But how will the SW and massage parlor ladies etc treat you (I. E. A Black American)?
As far as mongering goes a quick look at the forum seems to indicate the girls are in houses in lineup type situations...[/QUOTE]
Their website now lists past prices for massage and oral only. With 50 COP up charge for sex.
Can someone confirm current pricing for the whole works?
[QUOTE=MNPeter;1821748]Can someone confirm current pricing for the whole works?[/QUOTE]I paid 140 K COP this past December.
So just heard from two different sources that yesterday a gringo was down in Parque Lleras eating at Hooters and in front of the mansion on his return he was robbed at gunpoint for his gold watch and couple of gold chains. He was followed it seems by two guys on motos.
Now if we act smart and don't flaunt ourselves down in Colombia, Medellin and especially Poblado are very safe. The disturbing part of this is now the thieves got away with it and are now talking to their buddies "hey there is this large house at the end of that short street above K-tronix and it is filled with stupid rich gringos look at the shit we just pulled off this one guy".
This is bad news because these guys in the future or their buddies they just bragged to might want to come pay a visit again to see who else they can rob.
Bottomline- Guys be smart! Poblado is very safe but nowhere on earth is 100% secure. Act accordingly.
[QUOTE=WorldJockey;1821654]You will be fine.
Sure there may be some bias against dark skin but it won't impede your fun.
As another poster said I have only seen working girls get hesitant in the far east (Indonesia and Cambodia to be precise) and it's more a fear out of too large a cock hurting them.
Just be your charming young lad and they will be cool with you.
As for non-pros who knows?
For all of us YMMV. I imagine age and Spanish skills will probably be the biggest factor when it comes to that.[/QUOTE]Next month will be my first trip to Mde. But I've experienced the pleasures of the paisas in Panama. They are absolute sweethearts. No issues for us & the whole crew was black.
I will be going to Medellin at the end of March and I was wondering if there anyone has information on where I could find "semi-pros" at in Medellin (For me a semi pro is one who "dabbles" For example. Cartagena has "Dolce Vita", Rio De Janeiro has / had (Help, Balcony, Maabis) What I'm talking about is a location (Bar / Club) where its kind of assumed that the majority of girls in it are looking to hook up for money. For example in Cartagena the club girls go to for that is Dolce Vita. In Dolce Vita you can find some "Pros" but many of the girls in there are just looking to make extra money for college, English lessons, shopping sprees, etc and you usually never see them in there again. I have read that there are a zillion girls in Parque Lleras and I could approach here. Actually my Spanish and looks are pretty good and I could absolutely "be social" but I wouldn't say that I can "game" them holding the same frame as I would a USA girl. But, Would there be the stigma of being seen with an American be too much for these girls and scare the majority of hotties off in Parque Lleras with this approach?
While I think some of the girls in Mansion are cute, I for the most part am bit pickier and am looking for a higher level. Personally, I'm not into casas or termas or strip clubs where they crank the fucks out. Some monger trips I may end up only hooking up with one girl and this is fine with me if she's a hotty stunner. I've been told to go for waitresses working the clubs but I find it so hard to fathom that a city like Medellin where the monger scene is big and where there are so many hotties running around (whom want and need money) that there is not someplace like this- A Club / Bar or area where the "amateur" or Semi Pro (Who dabbles) is hanging out looking for the rico gringo.
Anybody out there that live in or knows Medellin that can point me in the right direction? Thanks!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1819253]Showdown was not asking about an advantage. He was only asking if he would be treated badly.
I have never seen this happen in Colombia. And out of the 100+ countries that I have been to, it has only happened in Singapore and Indonesia. But the reason why it happened in those places was that the hookers or papasans thought that Black guys' dicks were too big. "There will always be a few that don't mind"? LOL. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.
What the fuck dude? Thug like attitude? If an Italian came on this board and asked the same thing would you tell him not to bring a mafia-like attitude? And where the hell did you get the rest of this from? You are showing up with second and third hand hearsay. Well I am here with first hand experience. I am Black American and I have been going to Colombia for 11 years with over 50 trips. I have been to Bogota, Cali, Santa Marta, Barranquilla, Cartagena, and Medellin..[/QUOTE]Racism is alive and well in Colombia and anyone that says otherwise is either deluded or lying to themselves to make themselves feel better. Do I wish it didn't exist? Of course, but it does. It may be more subtle in Colombia, but it is real. It takes many forms, but it exists. Paisas being the polite people that their culture dictates, they might not be "in your face" about it, but it is there.
I have had two long term relationships in MDE, one with a professional (CPA) and one with a prepago turned "relatively" straight. Both said the same thing. Blacks, in general, are looked down upon in MDE. (Notice I said in general, not 100 percent for you sharp shooters.) It is sometimes as simple as refusing to be seen in public together, or as blatant as refusing a "proposition". Some casa girls refuse to go out on presentation if they see a black guy in the waiting area. I have traveled with black buddies on two different occasions to MDE and experienced racism quite often. I would ask my upscale novia to set up a friend with my buddy and they would refuse, saying her friends would not date black guys. Or I would try to hook up a buddy with someone he saw interesting in Mansion or Phase II via my prepago novia. Often I would get told no. It was embarrassing for me and sucked. And these guys were professional looking, cool guys.
That being said, a black guy will have no trouble finding someone to screw and / or date in MDE. Like any city of 4 million people, they will always have opportunities available. And yes, some of the posters say these girls only see "green". Yes and no. Just like some girls are willing to sleep with fat, balding, smelly gringos only if the price is right, some will sleep with and / or date black guys only if the price is right.
But saying racism doesn't exist because a few black guys had success hooking up with paisas, is just ridiculous and not true. That is as ridiculous as the old "I am not racist because I have black friends. ". MDE may be a wonderful city, but it is still not unicorns and rainbows as far as racism is concerned.
I went to New Life today, reasonably easy to find thanks to the good information on here.
You go to the blue door that has a sign saying empuje (push), walk in, then have to be buzzed in through two gates. I felt a little strange when there was no reply to my ringing the bell, but once I got upstairs I realized it was because the place was totally slammed at 1 pm and the guy in charge of the door was running around doing other things.
There were about 12 guys waiting and the chicas were very busy. I was sort of just randomly assigned one, and while I'm sure I could have insisted on another, the whole process was very hurried.
From the waiting area we went down one of several hallways to a small room with bathroom, washed up, and got to it. Not bad, not great. I opted for the 1/2 hour (45,000 CP) and left feeling like I'd had a cheap thrill but not exactly like repeating anytime soon.
I might go check out Energy in a day or two. I'm staying near estadio and happened to see a very hot woman going into New Life today so am likely to check that place out soon. I'm not sure what other people are seeing with the prices for oral only on their website, it looks like the price is 115,000 CP 1/2 hour and 170,000 for full hour. Yeah, more expensive than New Life, but if there is a better selection and more chilled out atmosphere, at these exchange rates it's worth it to me.
One thing I'm really curious about is chicas who are okay with photos. I asked the one at New Life today and she was like no way, I'd never do that. Obviously it varies from person to person, and New Life is not the atmosphere for it with the busy pace, but if anyone has any further information, most definitely PM me.
[QUOTE=Phunluv;1820288]Obviously, MDE doesn't reach the level of a "world-class" or "global" city such as London, Berlin, New York. . . I guess Paris would be right behind the main 3.
There's the second tier of major European and American cities (maybe Sidney too although I've never been to Oz) and I would put Medellin and Bogota in the third tier.
Which is fine by me, I've lived in New York all my life (40+ years), and although I haven't "seen it all" or "done it all" it sure feels close sometimes. Yet I'm actually considering moving out of this expensive and overrated city (quality of life here has not improved since the late 90's and may even have gone down a bit) and finding a place that's a bit less stressful.
Your attitude on MDE really does depend on your life circumstances, and what life-stage you're at. Maybe a "bigger" city would suit a guy in his 20's or 30's or an older guy who's always lived in suburban or rural area might not find MDE to be enough city to satisfy his curiosity.
I personally really don't need MDE to be a city filled with things to do or see. On the contrary, I like the idea of moving down there to simplify my life and just focus on one or two things, the chicas being one of those things, LOL.[/QUOTE]Agree having been to all those cities you mention, this place stood above all the rest because I was in my mid 40's and was no longer able to pull the mid twenties in the states anymore and I was tired of the seasons and extrema hot and cold temperatures. Nobody seems to get it in the states, that this place has the most consistent temperatures of any place I've ever been and I mean perfect for me everyday! If you can get a girlfriend here which is not as easy as guys think its hands down the best city in the world!
Thanks,
Colombia Jake.
[QUOTE=MikeysHouse;1822030]But, Would there be the stigma of being seen with an American be too much for these girls and scare the majority of hotties off in Parque Lleras with this approach? [/QUOTE]Never seen or felt a girl worried about the stigma of being with a gringo.
[QUOTE=MikeysHouse;1822030]but I find it so hard to fathom that a city like Medellin where the monger scene is big and where there are so many hotties running around (whom want and need money) that there is not someplace like this- A Club / Bar or area where the "amateur" or Semi Pro (Who dabbles) is hanging out looking for the rico gringo.[/QUOTE]Sadly there is no place in the world that can approximate the old Help. Medellin should have a place that is at least similar to LDV but it doesn't at all. Which is a shame. The best place for you to try would be a few of the discos in parque lleras area. They will have some working girls and semi-pros mixed in with the tourists and locals hanging out but it isn't at all like LDV.
[QUOTE=HardWay6;1822045]Racism is alive and well in Colombia and anyone that says otherwise is either deluded or lying to themselves to make themselves feel better. Do I wish it didn't exist? Of course, but it does. It may be more subtle in Colombia, but it is real. It takes many forms, but it exists. Paisas being the polite people that their culture dictates, they might not be "in your face" about it, but it is there.
But saying racism doesn't exist because a few black guys had success hooking up with paisas, is just ridiculous and not true.[/QUOTE]Racism exists all over the world, but will it affect you as a traveler is the issue. No it will not. For the most part it will only affect the locals who are out to get an education or a good job, and not a foreigner who comes into the country for a few days with a pocket full of money.
I live in Thailand and you can walk the streets all day long and see dark Thais 10 to 1 to lighter Thais, but step into a bank or an airplane or look on TV and all you will see working are the lighter Thais. Go to a construction site or a rice field and you will not see any lighter Thais. But as far as you being a traveler you will not have problems getting a hotel, eating in a restaurant, or picking up women. I do not know any Black guys who have been turned down by hookers or had hookers hiding from them in Colombia. If there are any on this board then please speak up and tell us of your experience so we can get a first-hand account and not all of the he-say, she-say friend of a friend stuff.[QUOTE=HardWay6;1822045]I would ask my upscale novia to set up a friend with my buddy and they would refuse, saying her friends would not date black guys.[/QUOTE]This is not an example of racism. I have friends who do not date whites and others who do not date Asians, but that is not to say they are racist. That is just to say that that is not their type.
[QUOTE=MikeysHouse;1822030]I will be going to Medellin at the end of March and I was wondering if there anyone has information on where I could find "semi-pros" at in Medellin (For me a semi pro is one who "dabbles" For example. Cartagena has "Dolce Vita", Rio De Janeiro has / had (Help, Balcony, Maabis) What I'm talking about is a location (Bar / Club) where its kind of assumed that the majority of girls in it are looking to hook up for money. For example in Cartagena the club girls go to for that is Dolce Vita. In Dolce Vita you can find some "Pros" but many of the girls in there are just looking to make extra money for college, English lessons, shopping sprees, etc and you usually never see them in there again.[/QUOTE]You seriously believe that lie they tell about needing money for school, etc? Where is the line of demarcation between semi and pro? Is 20 dicks per month considered dabbling? Should I consider myself semi-employed because I work 4 days/week and I only work to get extra money to pay bills and pick up chicks? Most importantly how would YOU know the difference. A chick could have been working all day in New Life then show up in a Parque Lleras disco with the extra money for school story; how are you to discern whether it is true or not?
True Story Example: We went to Help one night and saw 3 chicks getting out of a taxi. We intercepted them before they could make it to the entrance of the club. We took them to the apartment and later on where did they tell us that they work? Vila Mimosa. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvI3cuELtSM&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DhvI3cuELtSM&has_verified=1[/url]