Sao Paulo Reports

São Paulo has 12 million people. The GP scene is huge and lots of variety. Unlike Tijuana, DR or Columbia, it caters to the locals first. Foreigners make up a very small part. Scandallo is rightfully hyped up, but that's the highest end of SP cost spectrum. Many cheaper boates (Bomboa, connection) and clubs / bar (Brooklin, Muchachos, stop). My definition, a boate has freelancers there you negotiate with the girl, club / bar has fixed prices. Then there's clinicas, high end and low end ones, and massage places. There probably hundreds of clinicas in SP. Lower down are the trash prives and streetwalkers, where you get a quick 15 minutes for r40 or $8. I like variety and only go to scandallo maybe 2 night during a week trip. Though I stop at the lower end clinicas which are r220 to r350 or $40-60 per hour which I consider the sweet spot.

[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2945475]and two others who said "maybe" which for me means no.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the update. Next time, try to tell them you are clean to see if that changes her mind.

[QUOTE=StylishGuy;2939780]I've tried Mercure Sao Paulo Jardins, able to take guest to the room 24 h. Its 1 km from the AV Paulista, make sure that its a 2 occupancy room while booking.[/QUOTE]How was the hotel in general? Any road road noise issues? Are the windows soundproofed?

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2945480]The sleazy strip club movie scene we all think of when we imagine Mexico is very much a real thing and personally, I love that type of environment. Mexico is for the adventurous who want more than to drain their balls...HM, maybe I will bite the bullet and try Sao Paulo, several people have said it is the ultimate mongering destination in terms of quality of girl. I just hate that pricing and I am a night owl / club type guy so the day time clinica's don't interest me as much. I also like to go through 2 or 3 women a night most weekends on my trips, so that can get really get pricey fast.[/QUOTE]You sound a bit like me in terms of what kind of experience you're looking for, and I'll say that while the clinicas can have some extremely attractive women, the service just isn't comparable to the clubs at night. I think you'd enjoy Casarao, and doing two or three sessions there won't break the bank. R300 for a half hour with the girl and R50 for the room comes out to about $64 with current exchange rates. Two of those plus my drinks is right around $150 US. It's also good because you can sample quite a few, and make plans to meet the ones you like outside of the club. I'd also say if you come to SP, you have to experience Scandallo at least once or twice. The cost is keeping me away lately, but its genuinely something to behold and the quality both in terms of looks and service is unparalleled.

At FRobertson: It's a little club that was recommended to me by someone on the forum a good while ago. Little neighborhood boate where locals relax with a handful of girls. Its drastically more casual, people singing, dancing, etc. At least on a good night.

At Nounce: I'm clean shaven and typically well dressed, and I've never gone there without showering immediately beforehand. I definitely don't think its a concern about hygiene. If you mean clean in terms of STDs, I suppose I could mention it but I'm not big on persuading. I'm really looking for enthusiasm, and I don't see how we get there from a maybe.

Be warned New Year's week in Sao Paulo is slow, slow, SLOW. People from all walks of life head to Guaruja or other beaches and quite a few businesses are shut down. You will definitely want to add a week before and / or a week after to avoid missing out.

[QUOTE=FRobertson;2945229]The fat cats can have their game at 1500 a pop, but at the CLnicas girls are 150-300 depending on the clinica, usually there are 5-15 girls to choose from, and they don't have that screw the gringo attitude that I have seen in the countries you mention. So that 1500 will go a long way.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2945480]The sleazy strip club movie scene we all think of when we imagine Mexico is very much a real thing and personally, I love that type of environment. [/QUOTE][URL]https://stopprimeclub.com/[/URL]

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Maybe try stop prime night club. I've never been, just found this place. It looks really far out but I mapped it 30 minutes drive south from moema. The photos of the club show strip poles at every table. Look like a strip club. I wanted to try it on my next visit. Probably all locals. Throwing this out here to see if someone is willing to try it and report back. Not even mentioned much in gpguia. This is the one recent report I could find.

At Stop you are entitled to 3 beers on the consumption tab, pay 1 or even 3 beers for the girl if she orders a drink.

The girl will order a drink if you talk to her a lot, the most experienced ones.

There are always 10/10 girls, the best day of the week is Thursday, the best time after 10 pm.

Last time I went to Stop 01/2023.

Very clean environment.

Free parking.

Entrance consumption 35.00.

Girl 30 minutes 140.00.

Oral without condom no fee.

[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2945798]I'm not big on persuading. I'm really looking for enthusiasm,[/QUOTE]It is STD. It is more about clarification. It is a piece of information that I think you did not have. My goal is sharing information for others in similar situation.

Sometimes enthusiasm require some persuasion to get some girls to do the job, This is a conversation I had with one regular. Physically she did everything but she was holding back her passion. She said she loves me. I said prove it. She said why do we have to talk about this? LOL.

The attached conversation is in Spanish. It started with she basically saying she truly wants me but it is your decision to make if you don't want to see me. I did not respond for a few days. She asked why didn't I respond. I said you already made the decision for me and something else useful in my context. She said something like forgive me love if I have been a bad person. Then she agreed with everything I said based on our relationship and what I have done for her. She brought a civilian friend over that night. I got 2 non-transactional passionate GFs that night. They are coming again tonight to play with the toys and me. Also, that night because it was past midnight and she has classes the next day. I told them they can leave after they stayed for about 2 and a half hours. Before she left, I reminded her this was only one pop just to make sure she knows this is [B]not the norm[/B]. Unfortunately, often when the man is nice, girls will use it to their advantage because this is a business transaction after all.

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2945857][URL]https://stopprimeclub.com/[/URL]
[/QUOTE]I see tables with stripper poles in front of some couches. I wonder if the girls dance on them and patrons are supposed to tip them like in USA. If one is going to Casarao, which doesn't get going until after midnight, maybe worth checking this place even tough it is out of the way.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2946047]I see tables with stripper poles in front of some couches. I wonder if the girls dance on them and patrons are supposed to tip them like in USA. If one is going to Casarao, which doesn't get going until after midnight, maybe worth checking this place even tough it is out of the way.[/QUOTE]Hit Casarao last Thursday, and tho I was disappointed with the general quality that night, I did find one pretty hot morena.

Ended up going with her for an hour in the room.

Last night, Thursday as well, was a much better quality night. I was happily surprised.

Totally different than the previous week.

Ended up going back with the same morena as the previous week, and then later on with a very pretty magrinha, red headed, branca.

Had great times with both!
The morena is on her way over to my hotel right now actually. 😋

Great night!

Hey all. Did some searching but I couldn't find specific intel. Can anyone recommend specific hotels in Paulista, Jardim, or other decent neighborhoods nearby that would be visitor friendly? My buddy and I are hitting a wall finding a hotel that isn't 3 figures a night and is also visitor friendly since we are finding chicas who are refusing to come to AirBnbs or private apartments. Or do ALL hotels require guest ID, registration, and payment for them? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=WaltoDerri;2946545]Hey all. Did some searching but I couldn't find specific intel. Can anyone recommend specific hotels in Paulista, Jardim, or other decent neighborhoods nearby that would be visitor friendly? My buddy and I are hitting a wall finding a hotel that isn't 3 figures a night and is also visitor friendly since we are finding chicas who are refusing to come to AirBnbs or private apartments. Or do ALL hotels require guest ID, registration, and payment for them? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I've always found the Mercure and Transamerica chains to be nice hotels and all I've stayed at have been girl friendly. Not guaranteeing every one but that has been my experience. Make sure to book for 2 people for minimum hassle. And don't sweat if they make her register. It's common in Brazil and absolutely nothing to worry about.

[QUOTE=WaltoDerri;2946545]Hey all. Did some searching but I couldn't find specific intel. Can anyone recommend specific hotels in Paulista, Jardim, or other decent neighborhoods nearby that would be visitor friendly? My buddy and I are hitting a wall finding a hotel that isn't 3 figures a night and is also visitor friendly since we are finding chicas who are refusing to come to AirBnbs or private apartments. Or do ALL hotels require guest ID, registration, and payment for them? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I stayed in Mercure Sao Paulo Times Square, Moema a few weeks ago and it is very girl friendly (Don't know if they are for more than one girl). You get better rate booking through the hotel chain website at [URL]all.accor.com[/URL] as a member. The price range currently is from $75 to $100 per night which is a very good value. Other girlfriendly hotel in Moema I know is Wyndham located right next to Ibirapuera mall. Like Steve9696 mentioned, I have also heard about Transamerica Executive Jardins and Transamerica Executive Paulista hotels in Jardim being girl friendly and they cost bit more like $100+ per night.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2946707]I stayed in Mercure Sao Paulo Times Square, Moema a few weeks ago and it is very girl friendly (Don't know if they are for more than one girl). You get better rate booking through the hotel chain website at [URL]all.accor.com[/URL] as a member. The price range currently is from $75 to $100 per night which is a very good value. Other girlfriendly hotel in Moema I know is Wyndham located right next to Ibirapuera mall. Like Steve9696 mentioned, I have also heard about Transamerica Executive Jardins and Transamerica Executive Paulista hotels in Jardim being girl friendly and they cost bit more like $100+ per night.[/QUOTE]Mercure Sao Paulo Times Square has been my go-to in Sao Paulo. Think I'll try something different next time just to try to discover another good experience somewhere else.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2945480].........The sleazy strip club movie scene we all think of when we imagine Mexico is very much a real thing and personally, I love that type of environment.......[/QUOTE]My earliest imaginings of what a brothel was like were those Mexican brothels I used go see in 1960's westerns. Those women were hot.

I did met brazilian exotic dancers, but they tend to do some kind of samba exotic dance which is fun but not so exciting to me.

I believe there are many many more in Buenos Aires. This is because of the "Cafe teatro" culture. Both argies. The brunette strips with hard rock music from the 80's.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2946801]My earliest imaginings of what a brothel was like were those Mexican brothels I used go see in 1960's westerns. Those women were hot.[/QUOTE]