Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1289576]Very good observations. Of course Western men tend to act accordingly. There is the "fantasy" of picking up a girl and "scoring." Really unreal to me. I am still amazed at the G-Club phenom. Yes, the girls are very nice looking, but I really don't get paying for the maybe perhaps if she feels like it and likes you and oh you spend money on her wine and dine give gifts that you might get laid. I would be the first one in line if there were brothels that had girls that looked like that and performed like oily girls and would have no problem paying whatever, but I came over here to not play games and court, I came over because it was easy to bed a gal.[/QUOTE]I think that you have a very important point. Some of us have done the wife / GF thing for long and many times, and are eventually disillusioned by it. We haven't discovered a joy / bliss relationship that has really been worth the time and money expended on it. Add to that the sex dindles aways over the years to reach far from adequate frequency, even if the sex was pretty good from a quality point of view.

Some of us then fail to see that the benefits of the wife / GF are sufficient. Its easier to collect several female friends that may or may not be Giks too, for the part time companionship, when and if we feel like it, but also get to escape from the many hassles and arguments of normal couple life and be able to have peace and quiet of being alone. We can simply outsource the sex part and be quite happy to pay for it as can be top quality, not boring and essentially always available on demand. The only GFs that really gave me as much sex as I wanted were also psychologically unbalanced. Never found the perfect girl personality and a sex maniac rolled into one. It just doesn't happen that much or I was never lucky enough or good enough to find one and grab her quickly enough.

What's the attraction to trying to meet new girls to fuck for free. I guess its the challenge for those who have the spare time for these games. Some of us are too busy with other things to make this worthwhile investment of time. Its obviously dependent on the success rate too. If you are an old very straight talking guy like me, lacking in expert charm, girls won't be attracted at first meeting. They usually start liking me more after the sex has already occurred, or pretend to. :D

I have had several non P4P girlfriends (and once a Farang wife) but they were usually inadequate sexual providers when I have got used to really super sex, e. G. Many are not exactly BJ experts and often try to shirk these duties, despite usually liking the DATY I give in return.

Maybe ex-P4P girlfriends is a reasonable compromise, if they are self supporting. Very experienced, but now hopefully very horny due to the removal of their daily sex supply. I don't think P4P girlfriends is able to work well while they are still working P4P. I have tried it twice before but created its problems. E. G. The girls fucks other guys but requires you to be faithful. That's a somewhat bullshit scenario even though she fucked me essentially for free! One of these girls was really fabulous on the bed, but still was too hard to get completely adequate frequency under those conditions even though she worked only 3-4 days per week, causing me to need to cheat anyway at times. Nothing worse than girls that are too tired to fuck or essentially "fucked out".

I do have a relationship with a girl that is not sexually based. She is essentially my adopted very close sister. This seems to work better than the GF thing. Regular Giks paid or not also seems to work better for me. Obviously the unpaid ones are usually somewhat older girls, but I am reluctant to turn them into a permanent GF, due to difficulty to cure the sex-addict thing completely although can go without for several weeks when nothing great on offer (e.g. my home country).

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1289642]I have had several non P4P girlfriends (and once a Farang wife) but they were usually inadequate sexual providers when I have got used to really super sex, e. G. Many are not exactly BJ experts and often try to shirk these duties, despite usually liking the DATY I give in return.[/QUOTE]Yep, many non P4P girls are not experts but when taught right, they can be sex predators. My best experiences are with non P4P ladies. Granted, it takes time and effort to get there, but once you get the girl used to it then she's all open for everything.

Anal, CIM, Sex in public places. You name it.

That's my experience anyway

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1289088]Actually, this is the only part where I think our opinions Differ. I think Thai ladies like a Man to take charge, it is in their culture. They're not sure enough to propose something that you may not like. They are waiting for you to take the lead.

Also, even though they can take care of themselves, they require a certain feeling of Safety / Security, they may not ask for any money or not need any, but when the time comes they like to know that their man is going to be able to step up.[/QUOTE]It's the tecahing of Thevrada Bhuddism. A family must be led by one person (none of this western consensus bullshit) and that one person is the husband. The women get to control the household budget and say what goes with the children. All else is decided by the husband.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1289642]I think that you have a very important point. Some of us have done the wife / GF thing for long and many times, and are eventually disillusioned by it. We haven't discovered a joy / bliss relationship that has really been worth the time and money expended on it. Add to that the sex dindles aways over the years to reach far from adequate frequency, even if the sex was pretty good from a quality point of view.

Some of us then fail to see that the benefits of the wife / GF are sufficient. Its easier to collect several female friends that may or may not be Giks too, for the part time companionship, when and if we feel like it, but also get to escape from the many hassles and arguments of normal couple life and be able to have peace and quiet of being alone. We can simply outsource the sex part and be quite happy to pay for it as can be top quality, not boring and essentially always available on demand. The only GFs that really gave me as much sex as I wanted were also psychologically unbalanced. Never found the perfect girl personality and a sex maniac rolled into one. It just doesn't happen that much or I was never lucky enough or good enough to find one and grab her quickly enough.

What's the attraction to trying to meet new girls to fuck for free. I guess its the challenge for those who have the spare time for these games. Some of us are too busy with other things to make this worthwhile investment of time. Its obviously dependent on the success rate too. If you are an old very straight talking guy like me, lacking in expert charm, girls won't be attracted at first meeting. They usually start liking me more after the sex has already occurred, or pretend to. .

I have had several non P4P girlfriends (and once a Farang wife) but they were usually inadequate sexual providers when I have got used to really super sex, e. G. Many are not exactly BJ experts and often try to shirk these duties, despite usually liking the DATY I give in return.

Maybe ex-P4P girlfriends is a reasonable compromise, if they are self supporting. Very experienced, but now hopefully very horny due to the removal of their daily sex supply. I don't think P4P girlfriends is able to work well while they are still working P4P. I have tried it twice before but created its problems. E. G. The girls fucks other guys but requires you to be faithful. That's a somewhat bullshit scenario even though she fucked me essentially for free! One of these girls was really fabulous on the bed, but still was too hard to get completely adequate frequency under those conditions even though she worked only 3-4 days per week, causing me to need to cheat anyway at times. Nothing worse than girls that are too tired to fuck or essentially "fucked out".

I do have a relationship with a girl that is not sexually based. She is essentially my adopted very close sister. This seems to work better than the GF thing. Regular Giks paid or not also seems to work better for me. Obviously the unpaid ones are usually somewhat older girls, but I am reluctant to turn them into a permanent GF, due to difficulty to cure the sex-addict thing completely although can go without for several weeks when nothing great on offer (e. G. My home country).[/QUOTE]Very well stated. In a nutshell, what makes a girl a good "mate" and companion can sometimes be at odds with what makes a girl a wonderful "sex partner." Most girls I really enjoy doinking are not the kind I would want to have a relationship with. Took me a marriage or two in Farangland to realize this. I do think the Asian man has this figured out pretty much from the get go. You have your wife and family at home and something to have fun with on the side. They are two different things. Compartmentalization is the way to go.

Who out there still maintains the same sexual interest in a gal they have been with for a time? I would say very few men do. Asian culture tends to "allow" for this. Western culture does not. Of course you are expected to be discreet and that is where so many Westerners fall down.

One can have their cake and eat it too.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1289655]Very well stated. In a nutshell, what makes a girl a good "mate" and companion can sometimes be at odds with what makes a girl a wonderful "sex partner." Most girls I really enjoy doinking are not the kind I would want to have a relationship with. Took me a marriage or two in Farangland to realize this. I do think the Asian man has this figured out pretty much from the get go. You have your wife and family at home and something to have fun with on the side. They are two different things. Compartmentalization is the way to go.

Who out there still maintains the same sexual interest in a gal they have been with for a time? I would say very few men do. Asian culture tends to "allow" for this. Western culture does not. Of course you are expected to be discreet and that is where so many Westerners fall down.

One can have their cake and eat it too.[/QUOTE]To me " The grass is never greener " eventually all grass turns brown? Or all good things eventually come to a end?

LBM

[quote=nicfrenchy;1289639]it may be a little early to tell, but i recall it did not work very well for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url].[/quote]could be but maybe at that time there was less expeertize on franchising and the strategy around it. i mean i don't think drbj will become the new starbucks, but also some 10 or 15 years ago such a franchise would have been given a short life.

from what i see in the website, drbj is already distinguished from any other place by the decoration, the presentation etc. that helps in creating the franchise. jsut calling drbj an ordinary bj bar somehwere else doesn't work, i agree. but if you set some obvious and visible "trademarks" it might work.

[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1289652]It's the tecahing of Thevrada Bhuddism. A family must be led by one person (none of this western consensus bullshit) and that one person is the husband. The women get to control the household budget and say what goes with the children. All else is decided by the husband.[/QUOTE]This might be true of the tecahing of Thevrada Bhuddism, obviously with Thai men you got to be home to make a decision and you got to be sober too! Or you got to be able to find them? The women has to control the household budget or it would be gone for that Thai whiskey or gasoline they drink. When my sling runs out of gas and I need to get it started quickly I put some in and it runs like new? In Thailand, they have to believe in something and I guess Bhuddism is as good as the next?

LBM

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1289683]I don't think DrBJ will become the new Starbucks[/QUOTE]If it were possible to open some in the US, it would most likely expand faster than Starbucks in its heyday.

[QUOTE=Chill Out;1289698]If it were possible to open some in the US, it would most likely expand faster than Starbucks in its heyday.[/QUOTE]We can bet on this. And I am sure Bill will be the best testimonial. Aye's role will be taken over by Monica. Oooooooooooops!

[QUOTE=Chill Out;1289698]If it were possible to open some in the US, it would most likely expand faster than Starbucks in its heyday.[/QUOTE]Bullshit. Grand Opening that morning. Grand Closing that night. People in my country could not handle a thing like that. It would only take a few hours before someone was there shooting up the place because they were jealous that someone else was having relations with "their girl."

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1289720]Bullshit. Grand Opening that morning. Grand Closing that night. People in my country could not handle a thing like that. It would only take a few hours before someone was there shooting up the place because they were jealous that someone else was having relations with "their girl."[/QUOTE]I disagree, if you think about the US of A, then before the jealous BF's appear, there will be the feminists, Christians and Muslim assholes, some other religious fucks, The Children protecting morons and whichever other manipulating groups you can think of.

Politics will most probably do nothing about it, they'll just declare WAR on it. I can see the headlines from Here: Government declares WAR on Blowjobs!

In the USA, they love to declare war on things but they never do something about it.

DR BJ in the US? Nah, don't waste a good concept on these assholes

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1289683]From what I see in the website, DrBJ is already distinguished from any other place by the decoration, the presentation etc. That helps in creating the franchise. Jsut calling DrBJ an ordinary BJ bar somehwere else doesn't work, I agree. But if you set some obvious and visible "trademarks" it might work.[/QUOTE]You are correct.

First of all, their website is very nicely done. Any competitor either doen NOT have a website, or has a bad one.

Nest thing you know, they'll create an APP that will tell you which girl is working NOW and which is available

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1289638]I second that! Please guys, get a DIA or TLL girl and sponsor her so that when she meets expats like us, she's just looking for a fuck caus she's horny when the BF is overseas. LOL[/QUOTE]Your brush paints a wide stroke. Too bad you narrow your vision to such stereotypical comments. For an expat with such a command of Thai culture and tradition you sure leave out any human element. You should not take such a harsh view that all Thai women who who have relationships with farangs just wait in line for the next expat to come around! Naive at best, ignorant at worst.

[quote=nicfrenchy; 1289732]you are correct.

first of all, their website is very nicely done. any competitor either doen not have a website, or has a bad one.

nest thing you know, they'll create an app that will tell you which girl is working now and which is available[/quote]it should also allow you to input your preferences such as age, cim, rimming and deep-throat / face-fucking and then come up with the girls on the roster that day who offer these services.

maybe it could also take bitcoins as a deposit system to ensure your choice is booked rather than have her taken by walk-in traffic and leaving you frustrated for choice.

of course they could also introduce 'groupon' functionality whereby during quieter times a coupon is sent to repeat customer who have the app installed and those who present the internet coupon within a set period of time get a substantial discount.

such a service may appeal to mongers travelling with families who want to precisely time their activities and maxmise their limited window of mongering opportunity than put up with the vagueries of having chance it at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url].

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1289728]Politics will most probably do nothing about it, they'll just declare WAR on it. I can see the headlines from Here: Government declares WAR on Blowjobs!

In the USA, they love to declare war on things but they never do something about it.

DR BJ in the US? Nah, don't waste a good concept on these assholes[/QUOTE]If nothing has changed recently, in some States of the USA some forms of sex (even deserving some specific threads on ISG) are completely illegal, even between husband and wife. If somebody comes to know that the couple has had this illegal sex form he can report them to police.