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[QUOTE=Harry Dude; 1289798]This is the so-called "sniff kiss" or "nose kiss". Very popular in Vietnam also.
The following link has an explanation:
[url]http://peterdickinson.hubpages.com/hub/The-Wonderful-Asian-Sniff-Kiss[/url]
"The Thai name for the Sniff Kiss is 'Hawm Kaem' which translates as 'sweet smell cheek'. In the West it the nearest equivalent would be perhaps called a 'Sister Kiss' only it is not actually the same. Sniff Kissing is the norm in Thailand and over much of Asia."[/QUOTE]Its really a "sniff' rather than a kiss. I'm not sure why westerners want to call it a sniff-kiss."hawm gaem" really means "sniff the cheek" as hawm (rising tone) can be a verb, but its an idiom. There is a sort of implication that it's sniffing a nice scent / aroma, as a different word "men" (rising tone) is used for smelling a stink. However normally if trying to smell something very close to the nose "dom" is used to mean "sniff".
[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1290296]I've been reading a lot of negative views on go-go bars on ISG by some people who claim they're overpriced, that girls are too often starfish, ugly, that they're overrun by the Japanese etc. So I went to the big and famous Baccara in Soi Cowboy at about 20:30. 100% great experience with a very lovely and pretty girl. Doesn't get much better than this.[/QUOTE]I think this just proves that you can't believe everything you read on the internet. IMHO, to go to Bangkok and not check out a few Go Go bars is crazy. To go to Bangkok and not check out a few massage parlors is equally crazy.
Baccara Cowboy is a great bar and one of my favorite Go Go's in LOS. I have tagged a lot of fun girls from Baccara over the years and I have a friendly on going relationship with two Baccara girls since 2010. Naturally, not all the girls I have had were amazing, but I have had no bad experiences. Most of my Baccara girls have been well worth shagging and a few have been memorable. I know a number of girls there that match DT's description of his girl. ST means one shot and they are not spending the night. LT means multiple shots and they are. The standard session always includes soapy shower, BBBJ and covered sex. After sex most of the girls are in no hurry to leave. Sometimes I take them out barhopping or out to dinner afterwards. Sometimes we stay in my suite and watch TV and cuddle. Many girls prefer not to go back to Baccara and get back on stage. They are satisfied with one barfine a night. Management does not require the girls to come back to work.
The first criticism of Baccara is prices are high. True, but I do not know of a Go Go with more talent and friendlier girls. Spending an extra 600bt on drinks and an incrementaly higher barfine in Baccara over some other Go Go on Cowboy or Nana for an almost guaranteed good time with a quality girl is worth it to me. If the talent were as plentiful and as good elsewhere, I would be there. Rainbow IV is my 2nd most favorite Go Go in BKK. Rainbow IV always seems to have 5 or 6 stunners (8* or higher) on stage, but my experiences at Rainbow IV are more mixed than at Baccara and there does not seem to be the same party vibe there. So my sole criticism of Baccara is that there are not that many stunners (8*) around. I am a tough grader. I go to the soapies like La Belle for stunners and usually pay more. But Baccara has a plethora of good looking doable girls (6* and above). In terms of sheer numbers of eligible, fun girls, no Go Go bar in BKK touches it.
The second criticism is about the Japanese customers ie there are too many of them and they spend too much, blah blah blah. It is true that maybe 70% of the customers are Asian (Japanese, Chinese and Korean) and 30% White, but the Asian guys are always well behaved fellow punters. I have no problem with them. Some of them spend a lot of money and others spend only a little. There are always more than enough girls in Baccara to handle the demand. No matter how crowded I have seen the bar, there was always at least 50 or more available girls. So what's the problem? Answer – there isn't one. Baccara Cowboy sets the standard for Thai Go Go's.
Yeah, I always try to find some new place to down to enjoy the sights at Soi Cowboy, but I always end up at Baccarra. Those chicks are smokin hot! I like the music they play here too.. good dj they have
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1290345]I think this just proves that you can't believe everything you read on the internet. IMHO, to go to Bangkok and not check out a few Go Go bars is crazy. To go to Bangkok and not check out a few massage parlors is equally crazy.[/QUOTE]A lot has to do with the chemistry one builds with the girl and how the man behaves too. It is true we pay the girls, but if there is no fun in the deed, then it is "just another brick in the wall" for the girl too and she gets bored. Just as in any job. You still do it, deliver, but just about.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1290345]I think this just proves that you can't believe everything you read on the internet. IMHO, to go to Bangkok and not check out a few Go Go bars is crazy. To go to Bangkok and not check out a few massage parlors is equally crazy.[/QUOTE]Thanks Natty (and others who read my report). I haven't written many reports but I feel like I have to do it now. Especially having had this great experience so far.
Of course we could say it's just a good random accident. But the experience I had a day later (I will go into details in my next report. A baby-faced 18yo fresh to the scene doll with equally good if not better attitude and service than the first one) probably proves that it's not a coincidence and that Bangkok IS a great place for that.
Go-gos are also my mongering places of choice. Nothing else compares for numbers of girls available and how clearly you can see what you are getting; and really bad experiences are rare.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1290405]A lot has to do with the chemistry one builds with the girl and how the man behaves too. It is true we pay the girls, but if there is no fun in the deed, then it is "just another brick in the wall" for the girl too and she gets bored. Just as in any job. You still do it, deliver, but just about.[/QUOTE]I second this Mr. B
Right, I guess this one should start where the previous report of day 1 ended.
Since I am staying with my friends in the same hotel we were taking girls at the same time in the evening. Coincidentally we also finished at about the same time (midnight) and I quickly wandered out near the elevator see my friend's girl. He just said "you may be interested. Come near the lift". I knew it was for a reason.
So here I see that 18 yo girl whom my friend just did and I was a bit baffled away. She was beautiful albeit not in a "hot stunning be*ch" way but in a cute way. She had a babyface and didn't quite look 18 although she obviously had her I'd card and works in one of the Rainbow bars in Nana. I asked the mamasan as well and she confirmed her age. Anyhow, I just decided I wanted her the next day.
So I just went to the bar after 8:30 and waited for her. Funnily the mamasan didn't realise that I was a different person from my friend the day before because we look very similar almost like tin brothers in some ways (although we are not even relatives). I didn't know her number or even name but just said "I want that young girl my friend have yesterday". She knew what I was about. She came to work 15 minutes later and the mamasan brought her straight to me.
Some girls in the bar were hot (especially one super-slim and tall one) some of whom were young (early 20's) while others were older (late 20's, even 30's). However this one was clearly standing out because she was obviously the youngest of all and also properly slim and pretty just as I like them to be. So as she came near me she did a "wai" and Sawadeekaaaaa with a little naughty smile on her face. She not only looked very young but also acted like she really was. A little silly and playful girl full of youthful energy and ready to play aroung. You could instantly say she's a GFE. Probably doesn't get much better. So I barfined her straight away (she didn't even change upon coming in) , had a drink and off we go. It was about 21:00 I think.
Back in the hotel, a rather similar story as the day before. She had a little bit less "classiness" in her behavior compared to the girl I had the night before. But I guess that's due to the age difference. You coud see she was fresh out of Isaan and obviously didn't have too much experience in this kind of job. She did, however, kiss very well. I was surprised because she was one of the best kissers I've had. She liked playing with my friend too. Lots of cuddling, touching and all that foreplay stuff. She got wet fairly quickly as well.
Could have messed around for longer but I decided it's just time to do it. The usual missionary, very good doggie. A little bit of DATY although she clearly is not very much used to it. She did seem to enjoy fingering though.
Finally finish with my load on her cute and lovely face which she did not try to escape or disapprove. Again, just as the night before, helping to wipe it off, shower and then went for a drink in a nearby hotel bar. She left midnight and we agreed that may meetup tomorrow (which still may happen). I have her 2100 (did not arrange it or ask at all. I don't do that anymore. At least not at the bar) and she seemed happy with that.
All in all a very lovely, youthful, playful and a little bit silly girl who is a pure pleasure to be with. Only problem she won't speak English too well. Just the very basic stuff which is a bit of an obstacle if you want to communicate with her properly. Although she seemed very keen of learning new words and explain the meaning of Thai words I don't know.
So pretty much a perfect experience second night in a row. I am still considering taking her LT tonight but may not do that if I see someone else I'd like to hit tonight.
One thing I did in both cases with this one and one the night before was being nice, respectful and treat them as an equal. I don't know if that really helps but I guess it probably doesn't make it worse.
Thank you Bangkok and Thailand for such lovely women and such great experiences.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1290343]Its really a "sniff' rather than a kiss. I'm not sure why westerners want to call it a sniff-kiss."hawm gaem" really means "sniff the cheek" as hawm (rising tone) can be a verb, but its an idiom. There is a sort of implication that it's sniffing a nice scent / aroma, as a different word "men" (rising tone) is used for smelling a stink. However normally if trying to smell something very close to the nose "dom" is used to mean "sniff".[/QUOTE]Got me thinking and there are lot of wierd greetings around the world it seems and Sniff Kiss is still not unusual compared to what you see here.
[url]http://blog.easytobook.com/cool-stuff/worldwide-greetings-traditions/[/url]
[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1290495]One thing I did in both cases with this one and one the night before was being nice, respectful and treat them as an equal. I don't know if that really helps but I guess it probably doesn't make it worse.[/QUOTE]Of course it helps! And not only in these kind of meetings. You get better service everywhere when you are friendly, smiling and do not treat people as your slaves. A little smile, a friendly "sawadee khrap", a token of genuine interest and appreciation in what they do, goes a long way and both parties end up feeling better afterwards.
I wonder if many of the members who report "bad" experiences with agogo girls perhaps have been less than gentlemanly with the girls. Being loud and drunk for sure is not going to help anyone getting a good performance.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1290405]A lot has to do with the chemistry one builds with the girl and how the man behaves too.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. Treat the girls nice. Otis Redding is my guru on the subject with his great words of advice in his legendary song "Try a Little Tenderness"
[url]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x10qck_otis-redding-try-a-little-tendernes_music#[/url]
Oh she may be weary. And young girls they do get wearied. Wearing that same old shaggy dress, Yeah yeah. But when she gets weary, Try a little tenderness, yeah yeah, Oh my my, huh.
You know she's waiting, Just anticipating. A thing that she'll never, never, never, never, never possess, yeah yeah yeah. But while she's there waiting and without them.
Try a little tenderness, That's all you got to do.
It's not just sentimental, no no no, She has her grief and care. Yeah yeah yeah. But the soft words, they are spoke so gentle, yeah. It makes it easier, easier to bare, yeah.
You won't regret it, no no, young girls they don't forget it. Love is their whole happiness, yeah, But it's all so easy. All you've got to do is, man,
Hold her where you want her, Squeeze her, don't tease her, Never leave her, get to her. Just try, try a little tenderness, yeah yeah yeah.
You got to know how to love her, man. Take this advice, man. You got to squeeze her, Don't tease her, never leave, You got to hold her, squeeze her, sock it, sock it, sock it to her. You've got to tenderness, now, uh, I tell you, don't lose her, no no. You got to love her, tease her, Don't leave her. Sock it, sock it sock it to her, Got to try, now now now.
There are those two hotties number 71 and 72. My kinda taste: super slim and somewhat tall. The "stunner" 10/10 kind of types. Well to me anyway. And seemingly to the Japanese. I asked if I can take one of them. Aparently no. They only go with the Japanese and, if we believe the mamasan, they get paid 10000THB. Just didn't understand if that's short time or long time. They wouldn't look at anyone with their initiative and act like zombies. Just sit down together in the corner and wait for another dance or a Jap who may want to barfine them. They are probably complete starfish but I would have still gone for either of them for the body alone. It's one of those cases when I don't care of money or service I guess. The ammasan said "oh not good. They want money too much"
Also, there's that 18 yo girl in Rainbow 1, if anone's interested. She does looks VERY young and is a nice girl, a GFE. Can't remember the number now (148 maybe? But I'm not sure). Name is Meky or Mekky (pronounced as meh-kee). If someone's up to some young experience, may be a good choice.
Anyway, cheers everyone. I will keep updated from my last day in BKK and later Pattaya if just anything memorable would happen.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1290561]Of course it helps! And not only in these kind of meetings. You get better service everywhere when you are friendly, smiling and do not treat people as your slaves. A little smile, a friendly "sawadee khrap", a token of genuine interest and appreciation in what they do, goes a long way and both parties end up feeling better afterwards.
I wonder if many of the members who report "bad" experiences with agogo girls perhaps have been less than gentlemanly with the girls. Being loud and drunk for sure is not going to help anyone getting a good performance.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand people who drink alot in go-go bars. Drinking makes you dizzy and also makes forget things you see. Not to mention it makes most guys act and look stupid and bad. It's like looking to the world through a distortion glass. For me it's two small beers and then pepsi / coke or just water with ice. I prefer to stay sharp and concentrated once looking at the girls. I don't mind if the girls get a little drunk though. :)
[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1290733]I asked if I can take one of them. Aparently no. They only go with the Japanese and, if we believe the mamasan, they get paid 10000THB.[/QUOTE]Next time, just tell the waitress to go see the girl and tell her you are ready to take her to your hotel for 20k. She will come to your table, buy her a drink and be friendly. Then ask her what customers she usually picks. And when she says Japanese, tell her: "ah no, sorry, I don't like girls that go with Japanese". That might make her think. At least for 2mn until she thinks about som-tam again.