Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=Reeme;2949258]Based on the reports I had heard and read, I had just expected more mindblowing beauty[/QUOTE]This is true even a few years ago. I always said keep your expectation low. It's YMMV and there are more factors than the girl quality involved. Your observation is not wrong.

I have two girls showed my their breast in front of the coach next to the elevator. One pulled up her skirt to show me her bunda. You can pretty much do anything except having sex naked before going to the room.

[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2950114]IMO that is a contributing factor, but not the actual reason. Lots of girls tour, but its a temporary thing for most of them. They'll hit up Dubai, London, and maybe somewhere in Asia, but they use it more as a working vacation. Plenty of girls do OF and the Brazilian equivalent Privacy, but the vast majority do it in addition to working at the clubs. It supplements their income and allows them to work less, but most don't earn enough to replace it.

The real issue as far as I can tell is two things. First, Scandallo has a very demanding schedule, and a lot of the girls just can't keep up with it. If they miss a day they owe a fine, and once that happens they run the risk of going in and losing money. The absolute knockouts didn't really care before, they'd work when they want and just consider the fine the cost of doing business, but that brings me to the second problem. I don't know how long it has been going on for, but it seems like there is a lot less money out there lately in Sao Paulo.

Last year when I was here I'd have to wait in lines. Short ones at Scandallo, and long ones at Casarao. That is not happening to me anymore, and while I see lots of guys out drinking and talking, it does not seem like many of them are taking girls to a room. If the girls can't guarantee a payday, they stop showing up at all.[/QUOTE]Do you think the top girls are escorting? This has been a successful path for many mongers here, but it requires a lot of research, translation and patience. It's not at all as simple as thumbing through webpages and pointing your finger at hot photos. Of course, some have tried this method with mixed results.

Now we don't know exactly how many top girls that might drop in at Scandallo actually have regular local clients they see but will never advertise on-line. Obviously, there are a lot. And we would never find them unless we were lucky to be at Scandallo when they dropped in.

Logically if the economy sucks, the girls have to be out there somewhere. This is where venues like the old Help Disco that catered mostly to foreigners were a match made in heaven for mongers and Brazilian girls looking for steady income during local economic slowdowns.

You will likely get a more robust response to these questions in the Buenos Aires forum.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2950417]Thinking of doing an end of year trip to Buenos Aires. Anyone have any experience there? How does it compare to a city like Sao Paulo? Medellin? My big reasons for choosing BA over SP is I speak broken Spanish to a degree so I can communicate for all the things I need. I speak no Portuguese at all. It doesn't seem like BA will be significantly more expensive and I don't want to be in a monger destination like SP. I want to trail blaze for a change. I am also gambling that with the recent inflation in Argentina and lack of sex tourists, I may have found a city which is on the rise for our hobby, am I wrong with this gamble? The BA thread is basically dead, so I am posting this here. Flight prices are very high for the end of the year. I am figuring a round trip out of Northeast USA at a decent time of day is going to run me close to 2 k. It looks like my best bet is to get to Miami or Orlando the night before and then fly out of there in the morning to BA or maybe SP if you guys think a BA is a waste of time. My biggest concern is the girls are not going to give the unrivaled service of Brazil, so Like I said if anyone has any experience and can share their 2 cents, I would appreciate it and I ll be sure to report the data from my findings upon my return.

I just watched Assassination Tango and it peaked my interest.[/QUOTE]

My personal experience is based on 2019 before pandemics, but I know from friends they are still valid. The same friend who recorded this night driving tour in downton BA I have on Youtube. I can share the URL with those interested.

Buenos Aires is a city free of night clubs with working girls. The latest ones in Recoleta are already closed. There are of course bars where you can meet civilians in Palermo area and Puerto Madero.

I haven't experienced tango scene because my friends said "that's a gringo thing" so I can't tell if you can find talent in there. Like Mr. Duvall in Assasanation Tango.

What I do know is argies are flooding OnlyFans and other content sites. There are telegram groups where this talent post material, and yes, some of them, after purchasing their content, very expensive content will finally agree for a meeting.

For example, the girl attached in mosaic sells videos starting at US $30. She's a hot brunette and does meet her VIP fans. She goes with a male friend to the first meeting to check and that doesn't assure you'll take her to a motel. So their online material is some kind of a expensive filter. Yes, it takes looooong time to validate one of these.

The ones who are really making profit are these girls. There are true beauties making crazy custom videos.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2950417]Thinking of doing an end of year trip to Buenos Aires. Anyone have any experience there? How does it compare to a city like Sao Paulo? Medellin? My big reasons for choosing BA over SP is I speak broken Spanish to a degree so I can communicate for all the things I need. I speak no Portuguese at all. It doesn't seem like BA will be significantly more expensive and I don't want to be in a monger destination like SP. I want to trail blaze for a change. I am also gambling that with the recent inflation in Argentina and lack of sex tourists, I may have found a city which is on the rise for our hobby, am I wrong with this gamble? The BA thread is basically dead, so I am posting this here. Flight prices are very high for the end of the year. I am figuring a round trip out of Northeast USA at a decent time of day is going to run me close to 2 k. It looks like my best bet is to get to Miami or Orlando the night before and then fly out of there in the morning to BA or maybe SP if you guys think a BA is a waste of time. My biggest concern is the girls are not going to give the unrivaled service of Brazil, so Like I said if anyone has any experience and can share their 2 cents, I would appreciate it and I ll be sure to report the data from my findings upon my return.

I just watched Assassination Tango and it peaked my interest.[/QUOTE]

There are still two girl clubs in BA. The street scene in downtown is dead. I visited often enough that I found a street scene that has not been reported on the AP site. The best quality sex is from the freelancer in the club. The service is limited in all other venues that I have tried. One time I just walked out of a date in Recoleta because the service was very restrictive despite the nice apartment and the girl was attractive.

You are way too late on almost every front.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2950494]...... I always said keep your expectation low......[/QUOTE]When the price is high my expectations are high.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2950417]Thinking of doing an end of year trip to Buenos Aires. Anyone have any experience there? How does it compare to a city like Sao Paulo? Medellin? My big reasons for choosing BA over SP is I speak broken Spanish to a degree so I can communicate for all the things I need. I speak no Portuguese at all. It doesn't seem like BA will be significantly more expensive and I don't want to be in a monger destination like SP. I want to trail blaze for a change. I am also gambling that with the recent inflation in Argentina and lack of sex tourists, I may have found a city which is on the rise for our hobby, am I wrong with this gamble? The BA thread is basically dead, so I am posting this here. Flight prices are very high for the end of the year. I am figuring a round trip out of Northeast USA at a decent time of day is going to run me close to 2 k. It looks like my best bet is to get to Miami or Orlando the night before and then fly out of there in the morning to BA or maybe SP if you guys think a BA is a waste of time. My biggest concern is the girls are not going to give the unrivaled service of Brazil, so Like I said if anyone has any experience and can share their 2 cents, I would appreciate it and I ll be sure to report the data from my findings upon my return.

I just watched Assassination Tango and it peaked my interest.[/QUOTE]As the other posters have said the commercial sex scene in BA totally bites. Do not go there if you are looking for great clubs and escorts. That said I have had three amazing Seeking Arrangement girls in BA. One was pre Covid but the other two were in 2024. It wasn't super cheap - $200 and $300 USD as I recall but damn we had some lovely dinners out and amazing room time. Two spoke excellent English and one not a lick.

So if you are going there anyhow try out Seeking and see what you can find. But def don't go there just for girls because you will be disappointed.

Stupid questions. Wtf. Waste of time. How do you not know the reason why people use anonymous payments and being dropped off at a different location than outside the clinica / strip club / etc etc?? Its like asking why use a glove and mask when robbing a bank.

[QUOTE=XXL;2947383]Why would you walk the "last 100 m" rather than have the taxi drop you right outside the clinica? Anonymous prepaid card? I think you've been reading too many John Grisham novels.[/QUOTE]

I will be in Buenos Aires in 2 weeks and have been reaching out on seeking and have 5 different contacts who have agreed to meet for a 150 USA 1 has said she does anal, 2 others said we could try.

I will report back in Nov.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2950884]As the other posters have said the commercial sex scene in BA totally bites. Do not go there if you are looking for great clubs and escorts. That said I have had three amazing Seeking Arrangement girls in BA. One was pre Covid but the other two were in 2024. It wasn't super cheap - $200 and $300 USD as I recall but damn we had some lovely dinners out and amazing room time. Two spoke excellent English and one not a lick.

So if you are going there anyhow try out Seeking and see what you can find. But def don't go there just for girls because you will be disappointed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2950884]As the other posters have said the commercial sex scene in BA totally bites. Do not go there if you are looking for great clubs and escorts. That said I have had three amazing Seeking Arrangement girls in BA. One was pre Covid but the other two were in 2024. It wasn't super cheap - $200 and $300 USD as I recall but damn we had some lovely dinners out and amazing room time. Two spoke excellent English and one not a lick.

So if you are going there anyhow try out Seeking and see what you can find. But def don't go there just for girls because you will be disappointed.[/QUOTE]Sorry meant 2022 not 2024.

I was again in Sao Paulo in Jun'23, between April'24 and June'24, and now from Sep'24.

As I already spent few months in Sao Paulo, I don't (need to) explore for new places and stick with ones that I liked in previous trip (s).

I regularly visit Tangara and Yankin.

Both has about 30 girls each day. About 5-10 new girls every month.

Both open from 10 am till like 11 pm.

Tangara used to be open on Sundays, and it seems Yankin is also now open on Sundays.

Last year it was R140/30 min, R190/1 HR. This year R150/30 min, R200/1 HR. +R10-20 if paying by card.

I try to visit around 3 pm to see all girls. At 3 pm, the day shift girls are about to leave and the evening shift girls starts arriving.

There are 1 or 2 good / doable girls in Clinica Aneesh. R200/1 HR.

Clinica Shangri-la and Zarah massagem is also nearby. Both are hit & miss (ie. None doable some times). R220/1 HR in Zarah massagem.

I found another nearby place called 'Jade & Raissa', 2 blocks from Zarah massagem. Few doable girls. R220/ HR.

For all the above 6 places: both you and the girl shower before session, the rooms are good with double bed and most of the times with a mirror.

BBBJ: It's supposed to be BBBJ, but nowadays very few girls do automatically. Some do if you insist. Maybe I would have more luck if I could speak Portuguese. I don't push for BBBJ more than 2-3 times, otherwise the remaining session will not be good.

DFK: Some girls do DFK. But I tried to avoid unless I feel good chemistry, as I felt bit sick (cough, throat infection) after DFK with some girls.

For quick fuck, I recommend the 3 places near Santana metro. All about R50-60/15-20 min. About 5 girls in each place, rating 5-7/10. You can't shower, avg beds, girls supposedly shower, girls have bit attitude.

For larger selection (same quick fuck for R50-60/15-20 min), I recommend the 2 Edicifio buildings near Luz metro. 50-100 girls over 5-6 floors. No shower, cramped room with a single bed.

I could check out other mongering places and update info, like I used to in the places I visited before. But, all the maps are now locked, and I was asked to pay $10/ year for each map, even though I contributed heavily to update the maps. Even if I was ready to pay, I cannot use the 'Visa gift card'. It seems I need to put my real name (First, Last), address, phone number and email. That's too much of privacy loss.

If the maps are made available, I could check out the places and update here.

[QUOTE=TomDick69;2950982]If the maps are made available, I could check out the places and update here.[/QUOTE]Do you use this web site?

[QUOTE=""]This is the value of gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TomDick69;2950982]I was again in Sao Paulo in Jun'23, between April'24 and June'24, and now from Sep'24.

As I already spent few months in Sao Paulo, I don't (need to) explore for new places and stick with ones that I liked in previous trip (s).

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I could check out other mongering places and update info, like I used to in the places I visited before. But, all the maps are now locked, and I was asked to pay $10/ year for each map, even though I contributed heavily to update the maps. Even if I was ready to pay, I cannot use the 'Visa gift card'. It seems I need to put my real name (First, Last), address, phone number and email. That's too much of privacy loss..[/QUOTE]Good report mate, but I am at a loss as to why you need some other guy's map when you can make your own google map tailored made of where you have been, what you are interested in, and where you would like to go. I have my own maps of SP, RJ, BKK, PAt, CGK, MNL, Singapore, Yangon, etc, you name it. It takes time and effort to create these maps from scratch, but if it is important to you, you do it.

Honestly speaking, for everyone except guys who exclusively do Scandallo, Casaoro, and Cafe Photo, gpguia is indispensable. The quality and breadth of the daily updates are extremely valuable. It is what this web site used to be 20 or so years ago before it became a place for guys to work through their unresolved emotional issues.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2951015]Do you use this web site?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fewdie;2950901]Its like asking why use a glove and mask when robbing a bank.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing germs.