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Perfect! Will wait to hear from you what happens with them. Hope it works out. Then I can copy some things, may be!
Thanks for the support!
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1291227]In a few months I might browse around lower Sukhumvit with a couple of Indian friends, one is long time European based and another one is a very reliable chap, fully classy. And well funded by his job. I have warned them. In a polite way. That they might encounter difficulties here and there in being accepted. So they are aware and cool about it. The "European" one could not believe me. The other one was already aware, mentioning that this is often due to some misbehaviour from some of his co-nationals. For reasons often stated here. We'll see how it develops. If it happens I will not fail to report the outcome, as observed from a "white" eye.[/QUOTE]
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[quote=rbamane;1291095]a lot of tidying up counts when you are not a farang.[/quote]a jap could walk in with torn clothing smelling of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url], puke, and shit, and they'd give him front row seating!
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[QUOTE=Rbamane;1291238]Perfect! Will wait to hear from you what happens with them. Hope it works out. Then I can copy some things, may be!Thanks for the support![/QUOTE]I already went around with one of the too, the European based one, and in NEP. Went to 2-3 bars and at that time did not encounter any issue. Maybe because he was with a whitey? Just an assumption, not a reason. He even brought a girl out of a go-go for a take home, once they were in tha cab he asked whether she had a friend as he was keen of a 3-some, the girl stepped out, walked to the bar and came back with a friend. The three went away and he was happy of the performances once in the hotel.
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[QUOTE=Bionicman;1291264]I already went around with one of the too, the European based one, and in NEP. Went to 2-3 bars and at that time did not encounter any issue. Maybe because he was with a whitey? Just an assumption, not a reason.[/QUOTE]It is a valid reason Mr. B. I mentioned in my earlier post somehow they open up when the USUALY unwelcome guests when they are accompanied by farangs as part of a group! I have seen this before and had first hand experience in my own case!
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Rbamane
I feel your pain. Indians could never let go of the mentality that WGs are a low caste people who needs to be slapped around, spit upon and treated with disrespect. The situation has worsened in the last few years when the ticket for a trip to Thailand is cheaper than a ticket to go from Delhi. Bombay. This has given a lot of Indians who never traveled abroad, the means to go on a foreign trip. These Indians are mostly uneducated. Even though they might be coming from an upper income group. Doesn't matter what their background is. I even met a Professor from University of kansas a few years back who had the same fucking attitude.
In my case I have never been a fan of gogo clubs. I usually develop a relationship with one girl on a long term basis. I found that it gives me more opportunities as these girls will go out of their way to accommodate you. One I know for the past 10 plus years will even get me other girls (and good ones at that) if I express that desire. So forget the go-go girls and pick the freelancers. Or pick them up at bars like for example the Bush Garden. Just have to go there a few times to establish yourself as a regular patron. I would suggest you take a look at Livingstone Lodge Sports Bar as well. Giotto is a great guy and can give you some great pointers.
There are good ones there. But us good Indians have to work a bit more than others. As Orwell said All pigs are equal, but some are more equal than others.
Good luck and happy mongering.
Duni
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Hi
I know what it feels to being stopped while entering a club, has happened with me at my trip to St. Petersburg. It really feels disgusting but this has never made me think inferior being a Indian and having a slight wheatish complexion.
Also with all the ladies I have been with till now and they are mostly CIS I am still in touch with most of them, they enjoyed my company and it was not always about sex, so it really angers me when some white people on board says that it is you Indians who have bought this on to yourself, I agree that there are exceptions but then they are present everywhere in white or black. But you should not stereotype everyone and certainly I do not need any advice from any white telling how we Indians are. I know how we are and most of us very caring and do take very good care of our companions but these incidents of racism are very sad and really do pinch you.
[QUOTE=Rbamane; 1291233]Dignity. Yes, I have a lot of it. No f*ing thing in the world can break it so easily. Thanks for recognizing it!
On the contrary. I try to be cheerful in the midst of all this and keep people around me happy. That makes me happy.
Those ladies will never realize what they lost, and they are not to blame either. Once a lady is me, she usually tells me that I have been the kindest and most gentle with them in a looooong time. So I know that for a lady to not get me is not mine, her loss. If that is compared to a rough fuck that some men may force down them. Which I am no one to judge / comment on, just mentioning this as the feedback I receive from the ladies![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Horny Landoora;1291286]It is a valid reason Mr. B. I mentioned in my earlier post somehow they open up when the USUALY unwelcome guests when they are accompanied by farangs as part of a group! I have seen this before and had first hand experience in my own case![/QUOTE]I will be their passport then, LOL
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Joe Looking,
Thanks for the honest sharing of your thoughts and experience.
All I can say now is, lets keep in touch. When our paths cross next, lets explore the world together with a bigger heart and a richer mind.
Aaah. The vagaries of this hobby, almost philosophical and also comical. Depends on how you look at it!
And Udon is my next destination with you in Thailand, I enjoy Udon soup too, by the way.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Joe Looking;1291195]. You should be heartened by the fact that Indians have been around SE Asia for a while so trust me there are many places where you being Indian is far from a handicap.[/QUOTE]Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Busybee; 1291303]I know what it feels to being stopped while entering a club, has happened with me at my trip to St. Petersburg. It really feels disgusting but this has never made me think inferior being a Indian and having a slight wheatish complexion.
Also with all the ladies I have been with till now and they are mostly CIS I am still in touch with most of them, they enjoyed my company and it was not always about sex, so it really angers me when some white people on board says that it is you Indians who have bought this on to yourself, I agree that there are exceptions but then they are present everywhere in white or black. But you should not stereotype everyone and certainly I do not need any advice from any white telling how we Indians are. I know how we are and most of us very caring and do take very good care of our companions but these incidents of racism are very sad and really do pinch you.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you should consider the perspective from the GOGO owner's point of view.
If I were a Gogo owner or manager and certain types often caused trouble upsetting other customers and workers, while ruining their evening, or not paying, being cheap Charlie's, rudely behaved, smelly, violent, loud mouthed, screaming, etc, then I would have to seriously consider banning them all.
My decision would have nothing to do with "racism" and everything to do with behaviour. It would not be a statement about a race as a whole, but a very small subset of it who are males who wish to visit certain venues in Thailand.
If an individual Japanese man were a troublemaker, he too would be banned, but on the whole I think the Japanese are very well bahaved & good customers.
It is the same principle that certain businesses, like restaurants, for an example, may forbid customers from bringing in their dogs. It's not that all dogs [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on the furniture, bark, bite, etc, but enough of them do that the boss may feel that it warrants banning them all.
It is a purely business decision, and a business has the right to do what is in its best interests for profit and survival. It shouldn't be taken personally by pet owners that the boss is prejudiced against dogs or hates them.
It is unfortunate that some good Indian customers lose out because of such policies, but that is life. Life is not equal or fair to individuals all over the whole world, in many ways. Everyone experiences such things to one degree & in one way or another. Happily, at this time in history, humanity is more highly civilized compared to past centuries.
BTW a number of times in Thai airport lineups I've had people sneak or try to sneak their way in front of me from behind. In every case it was people of one race, usually male. I think you can guess where they come from. Do all those who come from there do that? Certainly not. Elsewhere in BKK I've had Thai people do that in markets. 7-11's, etc, & sometimes the store clerk put them in their place, but usually not.
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Thanks!
Busybee, Duniawala, Horny Landoora (I just chucked as I said this one to myself coz an Indian would know what what means!). THANKS!
For coming forth and showing your solidarity towards your "suffering" countryman. I am truly honored to hear you guys out and touched by your sharing.
Let's make this world a better place. So some day someone will say. Its the Indians who did it!
And thanks to all non-Indian buddies here - Bionicman, Joe Looking, Amjeck, Syzygies, etc. - for being there for me, truly appreciate it.
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Rbamane
If you want to pick go-go girls, try going to the go-go clubs in patpong, specially the King Castles. I was there with my Indian friend and he didn't have an problems picking girls up. This was a couple of years back. Good Luck.
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Great advice Duniawala, will build up the relationships while away and use them while with them. Perfect strategy!
Pass on any tips you may have on how I can get started on this. Being remote I. E, away from Thailand most of the time.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Duniawala; 1291295]I feel your pain. Indians could never let go of the mentality that WGs are a low caste people who needs to be slapped around, spit upon and treated with disrespect. The situation has worsened in the last few years when the ticket for a trip to Thailand is cheaper than a ticket to go from Delhi. Bombay. This has given a lot of Indians who never traveled abroad, the means to go on a foreign trip. These Indians are mostly uneducated. Even though they might be coming from an upper income group. Doesn't matter what their background is. I even met a Professor from University of kansas a few years back who had the same fucking attitude.
In my case I have never been a fan of gogo clubs. I usually develop a relationship with one girl on a long term basis. I found that it gives me more opportunities as these girls will go out of their way to accommodate you. One I know for the past 10 plus years will even get me other girls (and good ones at that) if I express that desire. So forget the go-go girls and pick the freelancers. Or pick them up at bars like for example the Bush Garden. Just have to go there a few times to establish yourself as a regular patron. I would suggest you take a look at Livingstone Lodge Sports Bar as well. Giotto is a great guy and can give you some great pointers.
There are good ones there. But us good Indians have to work a bit more than others. As Orwell said All pigs are equal, but some are more equal than others.
Good luck and happy mongering.
Duni[/QUOTE]
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I will say that being with a whitey makes a huge difference, have experienced that a few years back when I was hanging out with a writer from New York. We had a welcome entry into Rainbow4 at that time, I will also agree that the service provided will also be a function of how you were perceived at the first looks (meaning. With a whitey).
Thanks. And keep the reports coming!
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1291264]I already went around with one of the too, the European based one, and in NEP. Went to 2-3 bars and at that time did not encounter any issue. Maybe because he was with a whitey? Just an assumption, not a reason. He even brought a girl out of a go-go for a take home, once they were in tha cab he asked whether she had a friend as he was keen of a 3-some, the girl stepped out, walked to the bar and came back with a friend. The three went away and he was happy of the performances once in the hotel.[/QUOTE]
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Nataree Report
i could not find an appropriate section to put nataree report (only tulip & annies threads exist) , hence posting here.
yes, went to nataree after a long time and a bunch of experiences in the nep gogos. i had to decide between [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], drbjbar (suk soi 6?) , nataree, tulip.
tulip available lineup did not sound interesting from over the phone since i had seen their pics the previous day. strolled to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], did not like the gang there, checked the drbjbar website. did not like the staff as much except for may be one or two. so decided to do nataree where i can be hard-pressed to pick one given the choices, sometimes i do like to be in that situation.
came out of the huai khwang station to find heavy rains, well anyways. walked to nataree. papasan was very cooperative, gave me some suggestions when i asked. but all that aside what caught my eye was a baby face on the sidelines for 2600b. the fishbowl ladies were all looking like men, not ladies (slight exaggeration). told papasan i want that baby face gal and off we go. paid 2600b and into the elevator.
once into the room, she immediately kept the airbed outside the room and locked the room, i thought may be she would get it in later. but no. she decided that she does not want to give me a soapy, what the heck! i did not make a fuss, let her run the show.
we started off with a shower, she washing me and herself. came to the bed, cuddled, etc. then she gave a cbj on request for a few minutes and then sat down to ride me. for me, nothing like the gal sitting in the ride position (on her fours) , just an inch or two above where she can "sit" which leaves me enough room to hump upwards and hold both boobs with the hands. she happened to be in that position unknowing of my desires, that let me shoot like a train on steroids. haha, not that much but you get the idea. within minutes i was happy!
then she washed me and we went to the tub which was full by now. there she made me sit in the center with back rested and she sat down in front of me, my one leg on each of her sides and my crotch between her boobs and her face right in front of me displaying all the love that can be gotten, and some more. i will treasure that moment. she washed me with soap slowly, first torse, then hands, then legs then made me turn around to do the back and so on. each part she repeated twice. she asked for my permission to wash my hair and i was like why not, please do! she shampooed my har twice and washed me. man i would not hesitate to appoint her as a personal bather (if that's some profession) only!
then back to bed and she acted as if wearing her dress back. i made signs that we have to have one more session to which she gave that big infectious smile and jumped back on to the bed. perfect! we started off with her giving another cbj, she rode me for some time, i humped her too but then i was kinda tired so decided to call it off (secret. the little bro was hurting a little from all her strong motions). anyways, we dressed, i tipped her and we left.
i got a good part of my money's worth from that face alone. if only she had let me take a picture of her face. i could have treasured it but i still got her side face in dim light, enough to keep me reminded of that baby face when i need to think about it. so all in all, i was satisfied more from her face than the act. call me crazy. at the same time, she was friendly and smiley all the time, very cute personality, god bless her!
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[quote=rbamane; 1291357]i could not find an appropriate section to put nataree report (only tulip & annies threads exist) , hence posting here.
yes, went to nataree after a long time and a bunch of experiences in the nep gogos. i had to decide between [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], drbjbar (suk soi 6?) , nataree, tulip.
tulip available lineup did not sound interesting from over the phone since i had seen their pics the previous day. strolled to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], did not like the gang there, checked the drbjbar website. did not like the staff as much except for may be one or two. so decided to do nataree where i can be hard-pressed to pick one given the choices, sometimes i do like to be in that situation.
came out of the huai khwang station to find heavy rains, well anyways. walked to nataree. papasan was very cooperative, gave me some suggestions when i asked. but all that aside what caught my eye was a baby face on the sidelines for 2600b. the fishbowl ladies were all looking like men, not ladies (slight exaggeration). told papasan i want that baby face gal and off we go. paid 2600b and into the elevator.[/quote]thanks for the report. in my opinion nataree has the best line up in the whole of thailand if not the whole of south east asia. performance is clinical though.