Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1508795]Shit is getting desperate in Sosua! You used to could walk around at any time of night by yourself without any fear of getting robbed. Especially not robbed at gunpoint!

I ALL-FUCKING-WAYS keep my room key on me. It goes with me in my jeans to shit, shower, or shave even if I am not wearing them. $5000 is a HUGE fucking score for a Dominican (or Haitian). Somebody is going to be somewhere with their feet up sipping Presidentes for a very long time.

LMAO! This ain't "Merica" jack! The dude that got robbed is pretty much shit out of luck.[/QUOTE]Haha! I figured as much but we really don't know the details. Wrx2005 mentioned watches being stolen so maybe the guy was being a bit too flashy for his own good. I never keep my room key in open view when chicas are about and I always keep it in a "safe" place when they stay TLN. Didn't the front desk have her celuda though? Seems like they should be able to make an I'd.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1508761]Very strange! My apartment is near TW. There is a shotgun wielding security man there 24 hours a day. I see him all the time when I drive past. I wonder if guard was in the robbery because how else could they make it past him, up the stairs and then escape without being stopped?[/QUOTE]The night it happened it was around 8pm. Rick briefly suggested the possibility security having been a part of the caper. But he didn't speak on it at length because he was on the move.

[QUOTE=The Mind Bender;1508806]Haha! I figured as much but we really don't know the details. Wrx2005 mentioned watches being stolen so maybe the guy was being a bit too flashy for his own good. I never keep my room key in open view when chicas are about and I always keep it in a "safe" place when they stay TLN. Didn't the front desk have her celuda though? Seems like they should be able to make an I'd.[/QUOTE]The brief convo I had with Rick, he described him as a real nice guy. I asked Rick if the guy may have been drunk? He indicated he may have had some beer but not a particulary heavy drinker. Don't know what kind of watch he may have had. It might only be a standard watch any man would wear.

If I was a target, It wouldn't be for my watch. Its only a Casio. It would be for all the electonic gadgets I have. Then when they hit the safe, it will be cash and credit cards. More info to come on this unfortunate soul.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1508721]Hey supposedly got $5000 in cash. Phone with pics of the chica. Watches you name it, they got it.[/QUOTE]Yes, he must was over flashy if he needs $5000 cash in his safe, what is the max amount you can spend a day to keep $5000 in cash?

nothing wrong with the plastic cards even if I'm paying bank fee.

[quote=eltayeb; 1508870]yes, he must was over flashy if he needs $5000 cash in his safe, what is the max amount you can spend a day to keep $5000 in cash?

nothing wrong with the plastic cards even if i'm paying bank fee.[/quote]i could be wrong but having that kind of cash does not necessarily indicate a person may be flashy. here's why. many guys come to sosua for more than a few weeks for vacation. or they live in the dr part time. if that is the case you would probably want to have enough liquid cash on hand to sustain you for a long duration.

plastic can be used as needed to supplement the cash. but you run the risk of losing your card, or it getting confirep001ed by the machine, getting denied funds. or the atm system could go down. power outage. with cash you get a better rate than what you would get using an atm.

as long as the cash was in the safe, who else knows how much is there except the owner? the average monger can get killed for a lot less. i surmise anyone would consider him well off by dr standards. that alone makes him and any of us a target for anyone setting their eyes on someone to rob. i think the key is the chica he chose to consort with. if that guy had any of the chicas dozens of other guys had, it probably wouldn't have happened. our safes are just to secure some valuables from being exposed. protection from being robbed is another issue entirely. some security issues are our direct responsibility.

but one can't control the actions of others. anyone could meet the same fate for a helluva lot less. the bottom line we generally have more than they have at any given time. enough to rob someone for. i heard of cats being robbed on the way to or from the airport before any money got to a safe. just being a foreigner is enough to draw atttention to oneself.

i swear sometimes i think some of the moto drivers and touts have a look like they would like to strip one of us of eveything we got in our pockets. because they may feel we are flaunting our "good fortune" in their faces.

[quote=wrx2005; 1508953]i could be wrong but having that kind of cash does not necessarily indicate a person may be flashy. here's why. many guys come to sosua for more than a few weeks for vacation. or they live in the dr part time. if that is the case you would probably want to have enough liquid cash on hand to sustain you for a long duration.

plastic can be used as needed to supplement the cash. but you run the risk of losing your card, or it getting confirep001ed by the machine, getting denied funds. or the atm system could go down. power outage. with cash you get a better rate than what you would get using an atm.

as long as the cash was in the safe, who else knows how much is there except the owner?[/quote]that is the question. i would imagine the thieves knew he had a lot of cash and knew he had a safe. $5000 seems like quite a lot and it may be that he had just received a top up of cash. obviously the chica was in on the robbery, but we don't know how much inside intelligence she had.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1508953]I swear sometimes I think some of the moto drivers and touts have a look like they would like to strip one of us of eveything we got in our pockets. Because they may feel we are flaunting our "good fortune" in their faces.[/QUOTE]This is why it is never a good idea to get too close to these guys calling you their "friend". They are all smiles, but you better believe they are full of resentment. Think about it: Even if you are shift supervisor at Walmart, you are most likely making more money than any of these guys will see in their lifetime. You are flying over there and dropping pesos like Monopoly money to bang their women, and at the end of your trip you hop back on a flight back to your 1st-world country.

I think Mr. Gogo mentioned this once before: any of those motochoncho guys could have easily been one of us (from an African American standpoint). Our ancestors just ended up on a different ship.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1509032]This is why it is never a good idea to get too close to these guys calling you their "friend". They are all smiles, but you better believe they are full of resentment. Think about it: Even if you are shift supervisor at Walmart, you are most likely making more money than any of these guys will see in their lifetime. You are flying over there and dropping pesos like Monopoly money to bang their women, and at the end of your trip you hop back on a flight back to your 1st-world country.

I think Mr. Gogo mentioned this once before: any of those motochoncho guys could have easily been one of us (from an African American standpoint). Our ancestors just ended up on a different ship.[/QUOTE]Great point! My first couple of trips to the DR, I didn't notice the resentment. As I started to come more often and for longer trips, I became aware ot it. Honestly, origanally I was shocked. I'm a pooe blue collar working boy. But as you say, to them I'm wealthy. Its kinda unfair (sniffle) because most of us work hard to be able to afford this lifestyle! But don't waste your breath trying to explain that to the locals! They don't care. As I prepare for a three week trip to the north coast Mr. Gogo dropped me a line and reminded me to be aware of the "watchers". Wise words. Like you said. Its best to give our"friends" a little distance.

Respect come from respect. Some guys treat the locals like shit. It is easy to do these guys live there and you are fucking their sisters and cousins. They have very little we need so they are irrelavant to us. Truth be told some of us look down on them. I am sure many are frustrated with their lives. See our happy asses just rubs it in. I personally try to be decent to them.

[QUOTE=Brother P;1509061]Great point! My first couple of trips to the DR, I didn't notice the resentment. As I started to come more often and for longer trips, I became aware ot it. Honestly, origanally I was shocked. I'm a pooe blue collar working boy. But as you say, to them I'm wealthy. Its kinda unfair (sniffle) because most of us work hard to be able to afford this lifestyle! But don't waste your breath trying to explain that to the locals! They don't care. As I prepare for a three week trip to the north coast Mr. Gogo dropped me a line and reminded me to be aware of the "watchers". Wise words. Like you said. Its best to give our"friends" a little distance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1509068]Respect come from respect. Some guys treat the locals like shit. It is easy to do these guys live there and you are fucking their sisters and cousins. They have very little we need so they are irrelavant to us. Truth be told some of us look down on them. I am sure many are frustrated with their lives. See our happy asses just rubs it in. I personally try to be decent to them.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing. I just wanted to emphasize or co sign what Pros said because I think its a good point and something rarely discussed on the board. Regardless of the respect shown to them many of them see us as wealthy and would like to separate us from our cash. Cash I'm sure they think we don't need! LOL. Have fun, but lets be careful out there!

Keep in mind that most locals are neither jealous nor criminals. Don't use a broad brush to paint the general population when you should only be singling out a select few.

I have to disagree (just my opinion of course). Any place us guys monger, whether it's the DR, Thailand, Colombia, etc, the local men generally don't like us. Hell, I wouldn't like us if I were them! Having said that, I certainly think we, as visitors to their country, should be very respectful. Flaunting what we do is disrespectful and tends to invite trouble.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1509095]Keep in mind that most locals are neither jealous nor criminals. Don't use a broad brush to paint the general population when you should only be singling out a select few.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1508795]Shit is getting desperate in Sosua! You used to could walk around at any time of night by yourself without any fear of getting robbed. Especially not robbed at gunpoint!

I ALL-FUCKING-WAYS keep my room key on me. It goes with me in my jeans to shit, shower, or shave even if I am not wearing them. $5000 is a HUGE fucking score for a Dominican (or Haitian). Somebody is going to be somewhere with their feet up sipping Presidentes for a very long time.

LMAO! This ain't "Merica" jack! The dude that got robbed is pretty much shit out of luck.[/QUOTE]Forget the Presidente sipping part. The problem with a score this big is that word is going to get around and you better believe it is going to attract lots of Dominicans or Haitians to get their own score. I foresee crime increasing 1000 percent. Sosua is getting worse and worse everyday.

[quote=wrx2005; 1508953]i could be wrong but having that kind of cash does not necessarily indicate a person may be flashy. here's why. many guys come to sosua for more than a few weeks for vacation. or they live in the dr part time. if that is the case you would probably want to have enough liquid cash on hand to sustain you for a long duration.

plastic can be used as needed to supplement the cash. but you run the risk of losing your card, or it getting confirep001ed by the machine, getting denied funds. or the atm system could go down. power outage. with cash you get a better rate than what you would get using an atm.

as long as the cash was in the safe, who else knows how much is there except the owner? the average monger can get killed for a lot less. i surmise anyone would consider him well off by dr standards. that alone makes him and any of us a target for anyone setting their eyes on someone to rob. i think the key is the chica he chose to consort with. if that guy had any of the chicas dozens of other guys had, it probably wouldn't have happened. our safes are just to secure some valuables from being exposed. protection from being robbed is another issue entirely...[/quote]your spot on. you don't need to flash anything in public. the simple fact that you are a tourist makes you a target. to the average dominican all tourists are rich.

seems like they are letting all the hoodlums run loose in sosua. politur doesn't seem to be doing the job at protecting tourists the way they used to.

[QUOTE=Combo;1509096]I have to disagree (just my opinion of course). Any place us guys monger, whether it's the DR, Thailand, Colombia, etc, the local men generally don't like us. Hell, I wouldn't like us if I were them! Having said that, I certainly think we, as visitors to their country, should be very respectful. Flaunting what we do is disrespectful and tends to invite trouble.[/QUOTE]Who Cares what the locals think, I work hard for my money. I can flaunt it and flash it however I please, At the end of the day People are going to hate you no matter what, Whether your Rich or Poor, Somebody is always going to have something negative to say.

Because trust me if alot of Dominicans where in our shoes, They will flash money harder than you can imagine. You got chica's that don't got a pot to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in, but got $500 dollar iPhones 5s.