Nataree definitely has robust and ongoing recruiting for sure. Fresh girls coming in all the time. The CBJ training is a bit of a drawback, but if you're a regular with the same girl, obviously the policy goes away pretty quick.
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Nataree definitely has robust and ongoing recruiting for sure. Fresh girls coming in all the time. The CBJ training is a bit of a drawback, but if you're a regular with the same girl, obviously the policy goes away pretty quick.
In a couple weeks I'll be flying to Bangkok for the first time. My flight arrives at 1 AM. After finding a taxi, driving to the hotel, and checking in, I probably won't be able to get to my room until about 3, right? Where can I go to find some company in the early morning? The type of venue doesn't matter, and FL's are more than acceptable.
Is there an ideal spot, or an ideal hotel for a traveller arriving at 1 in the morning? On the flipside, if arriving at 1 means it's too late to do anything interesting, then I think I might as well find a room near the airport for a night and at least get a good night's sleep to make way for the next day.
[QUOTE=MyNameisChad; 1291585]In a couple weeks I'll be flying to Bangkok for the first time. My flight arrives at 1 AM. After finding a taxi, driving to the hotel, and checking in, I probably won't be able to get to my room until about 3, right? Where can I go to find some company in the early morning? The type of venue doesn't matter, and FL's are more than acceptable.
Is there an ideal spot, or an ideal hotel for a traveller arriving at 1 in the morning? On the flipside, if arriving at 1 means it's too late to do anything interesting, then I think I might as well find a room near the airport for a night and at least get a good night's sleep to make way for the next day.[/QUOTE]If you go and check in at a hotel on Suk then you can call Sabai, Sabai massage for an outcall. They are open 24 hrs. They offer FS including a good massage. The girls are maybe 3-5 in looks but the ones I have had are great in giving massage.
[QUOTE=MyNameisChad; 1291585]In a couple weeks I'll be flying to Bangkok for the first time. My flight arrives at 1 AM. [/QUOTE]So much has been written here about this late arrivals. Don't waste time thinking too much, just book an hotel in lower Sukhumvit, get in, drop your bags, have a quick shower to change clothing and if all ok and energy is still with you at appr 2. 30am you are on the road for a freelancer Sukhumvit is full of, worst case scenario head to Nana Car Park. Younmightbeven find a gogo walking around, our of her bar, and still fancy a late night business.
But don't waste your night at an airport hotel.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1291156]Fuck me dead! You started as badly as possible. You take no shower and expect a blow-job. I started feeling for you till I got to this part. Look the shower is 100% mandatory. Its not acceptable in Thailand to be unwashed.
I suspect she never really wanted to do LT. Many Bacarra girls are into quick turn-over. You didn't say what you intended to pay for what was clearly going to be more than ST. My advice is never take a girl to restuarant and dancing etc, until after you have had sex and confirmed a good chemistry going between the two of you. Then you get to offer the girl various things like dinner dancing etc, and she will either wish to dissappear quickly or if she is liking you and money is right, she might agree. I have found with some girls the chemistry starts building from the 2nd time we go together, and she is realising that I open to her wishes and not putting her under pressure.
I almost never take a girl more than ST on first time unless the chemistry is something exceptional.[/QUOTE]After a decade here I'd have to say that this is completely and utterly untrue. While yes, Thais adore cleanliness and bathe often, and yes, nobody likes someone who smells. I have found over the years that a huge part of the aap naam bit is just part of the girl's routine. I am astounded by the number of girls I have stay with me who sit and drink and talk for an hour or two, and when we find out that we actually both enjoy each other's company, the sex is exciting, spontaneous, and with total disregard for the norm, just rip each other's clothes off and get into it. I have talked about this with a lot of the girls and have found them to be in complete agreement, Obviously, if one or the other needs a wash, it happens, but I would say it is far from the norm if it is actually mutual.
[QUOTE=Joe Looking; 1290859]I think that for most members who report bad experiences, including myself, it is probably more an issue of mismanaging expectations than the attitude or behavior of the member. I usually prefer hostess bars to go-gos but even the few times I had gone to a go-go before Soi Cowboy, I had never been hounded for drinks so I did not expect it there. I expect that when I buy a drink I am buying 5-10 minutes of face time; therefore I should not have bought any drinks for women who were obviously not going to stick around.
Some men expect that the interest a woman shows in them at the go-go will translate to the bedroom so they get upset when she is affectionate in the go-go but a starfish in the hotel. Some men expect that more money equals better service; however in Thailand more money usually means she has a feature that customers pay a premium for (younger, newer, dare I say whiter skin) or she sees the guy coming from a mile away. The guy then gets upset because he paid her more than most Thais make in a month and she gave a weak BJ followed by pedestrian sex. Some men expect a GFE experience, including kissing and DATY, and then are disappointed when the girl shies away from those things.
Here's some advice that may help other guys better manage their expectations vis-a-vis go-gos.
If you are limited on time read past reports and only go with girls who got glowing reviews. I have found that how good a girl is can often be hit or miss, but the good ones are generally consistent. Granted I have recommended women to other guys and had the guys say that she told them no to things that she did for me so YMMV.
Remember that Asians draw a line between generosity and stupidity. Telling her about how expensive your hotel is will probably not impress her so much as get her thinking about how she will rip you off.
Always be price conscious, read the board and ask several girls at several places time permitting, because in my experience and what I've been told by other men there is a point of diminishing returns. In other words I may pay a girl 2000 (which IMO is beyond generous giving cost of living and wages in BKK) for LT and you may pay her 4000 but we will probably get the same effort from her.
Be honest with yourself about what you are looking for. If you want a girl for LT or even a ST girl who won't rush you avoid bars that encourage the girls to go with as many customers per night as possible.
Be honest about why you are there. If you want to party and have a good time then buy some drinks and get a few lap dances. If you want a girl then go in, order a soda, signal the girl (s) you are interested in, maybe buy them a drink, negotiate, pay the bar fine and then leave.
Be upfront about what you want. I know some men don't like talking price or deeds beforehand, but IMO that can lead to miscommunications and overpaying. For example, if you want a GFE with kissing and some bb services then make sure to let her know before you leave and make sure she is okay with it.
Lastly, don't fear the Japanese / Korean / Chinese. One of the best thing about Asian men is that their ideal woman is often not the woman that many western men like. Even in places with a large Asian crowd, there are always beautiful women for the taking and some of them are overjoyed when you show them the slightest bit of attention. Also, don't be afraid to talk to them. I constantly hear guys bitching about how the Japanese and Koreans are ruining things by overpaying, but most men overpay until they know differently. The first time I went to Laos I was paying 4-5 times what I paid the second time for LT simply because I did not know any better and I'm sure many of you have similar tales.[/QUOTE]You have some excellent posts and are to be commended for good common sense. If more mongers had these caveats down it would be a far better scene for everyone involved!
Hi, this is my first post.
Going to Bangkok next fall with my girlfriend, who happens to be bi and open minded. Is there any place where I can get FS for couples? And how much should I have to offer? Are couples allowed in in Go-Go's?
[QUOTE=MyNameisChad;1291585]Is there an ideal spot, or an ideal hotel for a traveller arriving at 1 in the morning? On the flipside, if arriving at 1 means it's too late to do anything interesting, then I think I might as well find a room near the airport for a night and at least get a good night's sleep to make way for the next day.[/QUOTE]Couple of options come to mind:
1. Email or pm Giotto to see if he can arrange someone from sports bar to take care of you. If you were staying at Livingstone's Lodge, that will definitely not be a problem.
2. Email one of the oilies, EZ, Snow White, Tulips or Mango to see if they can arrange for outcall upon arrival.
[QUOTE=MyNameisChad; 1291585]In a couple weeks I'll be flying to Bangkok for the first time. My flight arrives at 1 AM. After finding a taxi, driving to the hotel, and checking in, I probably won't be able to get to my room until about 3, right? Where can I go to find some company in the early morning? The type of venue doesn't matter, and FL's are more than acceptable.
Is there an ideal spot, or an ideal hotel for a traveller arriving at 1 in the morning? On the flipside, if arriving at 1 means it's too late to do anything interesting, then I think I might as well find a room near the airport for a night and at least get a good night's sleep to make way for the next day.[/QUOTE]If you arrive at 1 AM, depending on various circumstances, you could possibly make it to the NEP area by 2 AM. From there you could try freelancers in the nearby vicinity, Nana Hotel disco, or bars that may still be open or just about to close, etc. Even at 3 AM you should still be able to find some company for the night.
[QUOTE=MyNameisChad; 1291585]In a couple weeks I'll be flying to Bangkok for the first time. My flight arrives at 1 AM. After finding a taxi, driving to the hotel, and checking in, I probably won't be able to get to my room until about 3, right? Where can I go to find some company in the early morning? The type of venue doesn't matter, and FL's are more than acceptable.
Is there an ideal spot, or an ideal hotel for a traveller arriving at 1 in the morning? On the flipside, if arriving at 1 means it's too late to do anything interesting, then I think I might as well find a room near the airport for a night and at least get a good night's sleep to make way for the next day.[/QUOTE]If you want action it is no problem. At that time you can get quickly by taxi to Sukhumvit. You can be there before 2am. Streets there are still full of life. Try a hotel in low Sukhumvit, maybe Ibis Nana soi 4. You are close to everything. You can go to Nana parking lot og walk to Sukhumvit road, plenty of company to choose from. Street bars are one option. Open until 5 at least. Lots of ladies. Don't stay at the airport.
[QUOTE=Jamsam111; 1291498]I am silent reader of this forum and I regularly visit Bangkok 3 times in a year, I agree with your point mostly but I have to tell you that don't discourage other new good Indians who want to visit go-go bars, I visit go-go bars with out any problems. I was once stop at Rainbow4 but after talking politely they let me in. All bar owner don't want problems. So don't go in big groups and be polite and respect others and you will get respect from them, after all it is LOS.
Sam[/QUOTE]I have lived in Bangkok for over 10 years and there is no doubt you will find entertainment venues of all types with a "not allowed in" policy. It is not confined to Indians, there are bars in soi 5 and 7 that do not allow black people in, bars in Pattaya that do not allow middle east people in. This behaviour does not reflect any ingrainned sense of racism on the part of Thais who in my experience are the least racist people on earth but rather a number of bad experiences with certain nationalities. It is unfortunate that a minority of a certain nationality who behave badly impact the way all of them are treated. That said there are cultural differences that Thai ladies find difficult to deal with. A lot of ladies will tell you that Indians are not fond of showering before sex and quite often have a strong body odour which they find off putting. Middle east guys are sometimes less than respectful to them etc. At the end of the day racism of any sort is wrong but equally important is the need to change one's own culture based behaviour to adapt to local norms. Finally to finish off one of the most prevasive forms of discrimination in Thailand is against Thai men being refused service at the majority of oilies.
I wasn't expecting too many options, even in Thailand, at that hour, but it looks like it still beats any other place I've been to. I'll look into the hotels mentioned, and I definitely know which area to look in now. Thanks for the tips and the detailed directions.
[QUOTE=Kaussman; 1291700]Hi, this is my first post.
Going to Bangkok next fall with my girlfriend, who happens to be bi and open minded. Is there any place where I can get FS for couples? And how much should I have to offer? Are couples allowed in in Go-Go's?[/QUOTE]You are a lucky man!
Go to any agogo bar and ask the mamasan. It will all depend on the girls that are in that moment. Some will refuse, others may like it. And couples are definitely allowed in agogo bars. Prices are, as always, negotiable.
A place where they can surely assist you is the Eden Club, but it will be "hard core: the GFE is less and the action may be somewhat mechanical. Again all will depend on the girls present.
I think an agogo will be your best choice. It allows you to have a good look at what is on offer. Spending some ladydrinks gets you to know the girls better and you can even "sample" a bit of what is available. Have your girlfriend join in and see how they react: that is always a good indication. Make sure that you discuss what you want with the girl, it will save trouble and disappointment later when you bring her to your hotel room.
[QUOTE=Kaussman; 1291700]Hi, this is my first post.
Going to Bangkok next fall with my girlfriend, who happens to be bi and open minded. Is there any place where I can get FS for couples? And how much should I have to offer? Are couples allowed in in Go-Go's?[/QUOTE]I recommend Annie's for this, in house or at your hotel, lots of girls who can provide this service and the mamasan will help you choose the right girl.
Enjoy and please report!
OK thanks.
The price they will command would be more or less the same as for a single FS?
So then, I have to check that the hotel is Girl Friendly, haven't I? And the extra charge.
Couples are also wellcome at massage clubs?
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1291824]You are a lucky man!
Go to any agogo bar and ask the mamasan. It will all depend on the girls that are in that moment. Some will refuse, others may like it. And couples are definitely allowed in agogo bars. Prices are, as always, negotiable.
A place where they can surely assist you is the Eden Club, but it will be "hard core: the GFE is less and the action may be somewhat mechanical. Again all will depend on the girls present.
I think an agogo will be your best choice. It allows you to have a good look at what is on offer. Spending some ladydrinks gets you to know the girls better and you can even "sample" a bit of what is available. Have your girlfriend join in and see how they react: that is always a good indication. Make sure that you discuss what you want with the girl, it will save trouble and disappointment later when you bring her to your hotel room.[/QUOTE]