Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1849590]To clarify, for the ST, I think you have to to pay the full agreed amount once bed activities start (BJ or FS), but up to that point, if you want to cancel for whatever reason (including changing your mind), a token payment is enough.

LT is a whole different matter. If she clearly doesn't deliver on the LT (which for me means 2 evening + 1 morning shots, unless I feel otherwise), she's due a reduced fee, normally a ST going rate (of not specified in advance). However, at that point if she's ready to provide the service, but the punter changes his mind, I think the full LT fee is only fair. It's a bit tricky.

Personally, I rarely settle on LT outright, since chemistry is impossible to predict, and I don't want to sleep next to someone who doesn't want to be there. However, if after an ST we're both happy, occasionally I ask the girl whether she minds staying (for a bit of extra money, of course). No flakes that way (so far).[/QUOTE]I have just been to Pattaya a few days and all girls were really money oriented. Shorttime was just one pop. Then the girl immediatly goes for the shower and vanishes. I tried several times to extend her stay (without paying extra) but no chance. Everytime they say Shorttime is 2 hours when negotiating but afterwards they always say 2 hours but only 1 time. Longtime now was totally different. I would say most girls wanted to reduce sex somehow. Starting with watching TV when entering the room, wanting to go to sleep after one pop and if nothing helps they want to switch to shorttime (one opted for this option right from the start). Maybe I should have taken ugly girls instead.

Report from last month visit. Decided to try massage and proceeded to dream girl. Was given a warm welcome and I took a two HR package. Nikki was assigned. She is a good looking girl from Isan (as per her version). Her photo is not available in their website. Was given a nice scrub down (joint). Proceeded for oil massage. She is OK with massage, lot of teasing and slipping finger in A. Then a BJ with finger stroking allover and inside A. Fantastic experience.

Next day again ventured for similar experience and was assigned the same girl. Same experience.

A couple of weeks ago I met the girl of my dreams at my daytime hangout spot. She immediately told me that she was a bad girl. I asked her what that meant and she said that she goes with men for money. I acted shocked and asked her how much it usually costs. She said 1000. That same night she stayed over.

I rarely do hookers more than once, but like I said she is the girl of my dreams. Last night I went to get her and she stayed over again for 1000. She just sent me a message saying she had a good time last night and she feels comfortable being with me. I took this as an opportunity and said yeah, but you cost too much for me. Now she says to only give her 800 when she comes to stay. Works for me.

Now she just offered to buy me dinner. Once again it's on!

Hi guys,

Even if I've been in Thailand quite often, I'll stay in Pattaya my first time in two weeks for a couple of days.

What are your recommendations about good clubs in Pattaya?

I regularly go to the Mixx in BKK. Is the Mixx in Pattaya same / better / worse?

Thank you for your thoughts!

Best regards,

Micha

Yep, finally caught what ever is going around. Knocked me down for a couple of days. But I'm back. Typical day. Walked the beach (not many girls out today), had oil massage. I noticed that the cops were patrolling the Beach Walk this evening and when they did, the girls simply crossed the street. I asked a couple of girls what was going on and I was told there was a problem with a ladyboy and his client. So the cops are patrolling and it's driving the girls across the street. For now. When I asked if the police were going to patrol tomorrow, the girls didn't know. Guess we will wait and see. So I picked up a cutie off the Beach Walk in spite of the police activities. 1000 baht and we were on our way. After, dropped her at the Beach Walk and walk up and down Walking Street. Not feeling it. So I headed to the room and called it a night. Oh yeah, looks like a celebrity went into IBar. Didn't see and wasn't interested enough to ask.

[QUOTE=Steppenwolf11;1849898]
Everytime they say Shorttime is 2 hours when negotiating but afterwards they always say 2 hours but only 1 time.
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Hookers are not known for keeping promises.

The ONLY thing you can be 100% sure they'll comply with is the number of pops (and anal, if you're into that), so negotiate that explicitly.

Everything else you agree on can be botched if she feels like it, and is thus virtually useless. BBBJ? Ten seconds. CIM? Takes one moment to avoid it. DATY? She squirms. Amount of time? She might stay if you push, but with the sour attitude you'd wish she didn't.

Yes, service standards in Thailand have gone down over the years, and it's impossible to be entirely sure about anything. However, you can take measures. In Pattaya, what works for me is to ask for a minor favor before getting to the room.

It can be as simple as asking to take a few photos of the girl (alone, fully clothed, in a public place, they all have tons of such photos on Facebook, all public, so it's absolutely no invasion of privacy). If she objects or complies with a poor attitude, dump her, she is unlikely to be any better in the room.

Another one (if she isn't wearing high heels), is to come up with a pretext to walk together a bit, instead of immediately hopping on the nearest songteaw or motobike. If she is unwilling to walk for 10-15 min, she'll be no better later on.

Not saying it's you, but many Western guys are way too soft, and try to please the hooker. They are well tuned to sense weakness. I always treat them with respect, but am also ready to call off the deal at any early sign of poor attitude (though after sex starts, this is no longer an option).

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1850109]Hookers are not known for keeping promises.

The ONLY thing you can be 100% sure they'll comply with is the number of pops (and anal, if you're into that), so negotiate that explicitly.

Everything else you agree on can be botched if she feels like it, and is thus virtually useless. BBBJ? Ten seconds. CIM? Takes one moment to avoid it. DATY? She squirms. Amount of time? She might stay if you push, but with the sour attitude you'd wish she didn't.

Yes, service standards in Thailand have gone down over the years, and it's impossible to be entirely sure about anything. However, you can take measures. In Pattaya, what works for me is to ask for a minor favor before getting to the room.

It can be as simple as asking to take a few photos of the girl (alone, fully clothed, in a public place, they all have tons of such photos on Facebook, all public, so it's absolutely no invasion of privacy). If she objects or complies with a poor attitude, dump her, she is unlikely to be any better in the room.

Another one (if she isn't wearing high heels), is to come up with a pretext to walk together a bit, instead of immediately hopping on the nearest songteaw or motobike. If she is unwilling to walk for 10-15 min, she'll be no better later on.

Not saying it's you, but many Western guys are way too soft, and try to please the hooker. They are well tuned to sense weakness. I always treat them with respect, but am also ready to call off the deal at any early sign of poor attitude (though after sex starts, this is no longer an option).[/QUOTE]I don't like Pattaya all that much and rarely go there anymore, so I also don't contribute to this thread very often. But I fully agree with your observations and sentiment regarding P4 P in general and specifically in Thailand regardless whether it is Pattaya, Bangkok or anywhere else.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1850109]Hookers are not known for keeping promises.

The ONLY thing you can be 100% sure they'll comply with is the number of pops (and anal, if you're into that), so negotiate that explicitly.

Everything else you agree on can be botched if she feels like it, and is thus virtually useless. BBBJ? Ten seconds. CIM? Takes one moment to avoid it. DATY? She squirms. Amount of time? She might stay if you push, but with the sour attitude you'd wish she didn't.

Yes, service standards in Thailand have gone down over the years, and it's impossible to be entirely sure about anything. However, you can take measures. In Pattaya, what works for me is to ask for a minor favor before getting to the room..[/QUOTE]The first sentence is sadly true as much as I would like to say the opposite. Your testing process is interesting w / the photo thing etc but I guess you're talking about FLs because if you pull from a gogo bar you will lose your BF money if you cut your date short. Same w / a beer bar girl, once you BF you are committed financially.

This is also very very true, "They are well tuned to sense weakness. " They sure can and some will screw you if they think you'll tolerate it. Pattaya is not a fair and level playing field when striving for the top pussy. I was played more than a few times my last trip and when you return a bargirl to her bar it's not likely you'll get your BF money back. It's a win win for the bargirl, for the bar, and a huge loss for the punter.

Pursuing the top gogo dancers is a very skilled area for mongers to do well in. Of course the rewards are incredible when your game plan works but 25% of the time it doesn't work. This coming from a 60+ year old guy in decent shape and looks. There are strategies that work well but you can't be drinking too much otherwise you'll make a bad decision. Now if you're a young Asian guy Pattaya is your easy playground.

What are the dates for the official Songkran festival in Pattaya? Will beach road be closed off for a major block party?

Cheers,

Mal

Thanks for your great reports man. How many days left until you leave?

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1850109] The ONLY thing you can be 100% sure they'll comply with is the number of pops (and anal, if you're into that), so negotiate that explicitly. [/QUOTE]Sure? I'm anal addicted LOL and I always ask in advance for this service. In the last 2 years I found many freelancers that agree about it upfront and then in the room refuse it. So give them few baht for mototaxi and send them on their way.

Untill 2012/2013 almost all the girls who agreed to do anal upfront, did it in the room without any problem.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1850109] Yes, service standards in Thailand have gone down over the years, and it's impossible to be entirely sure about anything. [/QUOTE]I agree with this!

[QUOTE=Mauldid;1850252]What are the dates for the official Songkran festival in Pattaya? Will beach road be closed off for a major block party?

Cheers,

Mal[/QUOTE]Every year the official biggest dates are April 18,19,20, The 20th is usually in Ban Saray toward Sattihip. These dates the party stretches throughout Pattaya each day in different areas. Since these dates are Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday I believe Beach Road, the major Soi 6,7,8, etc, with all the Beer Bars all will be throwing water starting the 15th, which is a Friday. The 19th is the biggest day where the traffic on Sukhumvit is at a standstill!

Tried to stay in bed as long as possible to adjust to Pattaya's night life. Things don't really kick off until 1 am. So I managed to stay in bed most of today and ventured out about 6:30 pm. Pulled up to Beach Road, parked, crossed the street and met a 28 year old with long straight black hair, slim long legs and a big smile. I had seen her a couple of nights before but I didn't manage to talk to her. I priced her and she said 800 baht. Now hours earlier I told myself I would not accept their first price and I would barter. Nope, fail, at 800 baht, those legs, that hair and that smile, I swallowed the bait. Talked shop first to iron out the details. And off we went. My bike didn't even have a chance to cool off. Not as good as the last four girls I had, but good enough. Cleaned up, dropped her at the Beach Walk and came back to the room to rest for tonight. Welcome to Pattaya!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1849978]Now she just offered to buy me dinner. Once again it's on![/QUOTE]The chick said we would meet at Pizza Company. She told me to park in the Royal Garden lot. I said fuck that I would park right out front. I hit up a buddy and told him I was on the way to Pizza Company and as luck would have it, him and another buddy were at the drink van in front. I stopped by and had a drink with them while I was waiting for my girl. My girl showed up and I was only half finished with my drink. I told her to go check on my bike for me but she refused.

I finished my drink and we walked over to Pizza Company. Where in the fuck is my bike? Don't tell me they towed a player's ride. The motorbike taxi guy said yep they definitely towed it, and had pictures in his phone to prove it. I told my girl it was her fault because she had not gone to check on it when I asked. She said it was my fault because I didn't park in Royal Garden's lot like she had told me.

The motorbike taxi guy said it had been a while since they had taken it, way before my girl even showed up. He said they would take me over to the police station to pay then to the impound lot on Kopai Soi 9 to pick it up for 200 baht. He said I would have to pay the police a 400 baht fine and pay 200 baht to the impound yard.

We went in Pizza Company and had our meal. When I finished my girl told me to go ahead outside and get the motorbike taxi and start the process then pick her up back at her place off Kopai 4.

Long story short: My dumb ass ended up spending 800 baht trying to save 20 baht.

Mixx in Pattaya and in BKK are not same. Better or worse depend on your taste and Style. In Pattaya you can go inside the club wearing flip flops and shorts there is no profiling or dress code. In Mixx BKK you cannot go inside wearing flip flops or shorts. I personally find Mixx BKK better cause the class of girls there is better and they are better dressed up. More over chances of meeting regular girls who are not professionals or who are part timer is high in BKK. As I said there are lot of people who like Pattaya better then BKK, so its totally depend of your taste, class and budget. The rates of girls are high in BKK as compared to Pattaya.

Will be waiting to hear you experience.

[QUOTE=Michager;1850007]Hi guys,

Even if I've been in Thailand quite often, I'll stay in Pattaya my first time in two weeks for a couple of days.

What are your recommendations about good clubs in Pattaya?

I regularly go to the Mixx in BKK. Is the Mixx in Pattaya same / better / worse?

Thank you for your thoughts!

Best regards,

Micha[/QUOTE]