Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=TheVirgin;2955699] One thing to note if youre taking girls out of there is to know what their exit fee will be. They'll generally expect you to pay it for them, and while most are just 300, the ones that come late or less than 5 days a week are 600, plus whatever they happened to consume that night on their card. I learned the hard way a few times, and started only paying flat fee, and negotiating a price with a deduction for any exit fee I pay.[/QUOTE]For the flat fee, do you mean negotiating a flat price including any exit fee you pay?

[QUOTE=Gordon987;2955704]For the flat fee, do you mean negotiating a flat price including any exit fee you pay?[/QUOTE]Some girls need to pay entry that is 300. The take out fee is 300. The girl also has drink charge. It is usually only required to pay the exit fee of 300. But the girl can trick you and you may end up paying all 3 charges. To avoid being taken advantage of by he girl, pre-negotiate to pay only exit fee 300.

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2955440]Yesssss sir, 10 years. [/QUOTE]I reconnected with a girl recently. She is pregnant and will give birth soon. She is like a long lost love. She is a sugar baby, not mine. Before she had a very wealthy SD that supported her whole family. He was generous to her and did not need much sex but wanted have a child with her so they had been trying. He tried to control her so he did not give her cash to spend. That is where I came in. He put a tracker on her iPhone and tracked her to my apartment and we met. LOL. She could even hear the car of her SD driving around my apartment and was nervous at the time. Now she is pregnant with another SD and is very happy.

[QUOTE=Combo;2955655]Yup. In dozens of trips to Brasil, only one girl (that I can remember) insisted on covered BJ.[/QUOTE]From my experience Brazilian girls enjoy giving BBBJs, some may actually be disappointed if you ask for a CBJ.

[QUOTE=GlennSwagmire;2950294]So I'll be touching down in Sao Paulo in just a few days, is Scandallo really that much better than Casarao?

Also where am I most likely to find a girl who looks like Brazilian Hatsune Miku?[/QUOTE]I went last night and loved it. They were having a Halloween theme. Tons of cuties. It was raining when the doors opened so only a few guys and the ratio of women to out favor. Me and my buddy snagged 2 friends for an amount much less than we've been asked before. A local recommended it to us so that should speak volumes about affordability. Girls are freelance and rates are negotiable. I liked it better than Scandallo. Good luck.

Greetings gents. Finally made it to Brazil and share my contribution. I have mixed feelings. I went with 2 buddies. Scandalo is a beautiful facility and all but many of the girls here are typical plastic bimbos with GPS. Many don’t even smile back at you. I’m in my 30s and get told I still pass for my 20s. Don't know what the hype is. Personally I prefer girl next door types. Cute over hot. Maybe it was just a bad night. There was a private event upstairs so maybe all the gems were there. However I met a tall beauty named "Nicoly". Sometimes I hate the chats but I know most women find it off putting for us to immediately ask "how much" but I find this to be better than wasting each others time if you're both just going to realize you disagree about the gift. However, this being my first time here I indulged the conversation. She speaks a little English, Italian, but ofc mostly Portuguese.

We hit it off but ultimately she quoted 2,300 BRL (400 USD).

I was a little tipsy not thinking clearly and forgetting the conversion rate. I'm initially agreeable until I remember to check the conversion on my phone and I say never mind. Thanks anyway.

Her demeanor immediately sours and she says What? Wait why?

Tried to negotiate to 1 K and we just went back and forth. Settled on 1500 BRL for extra time, GFE, (my definition including BBJ and kissing etc as it has been my experience with 17 other women in Brazil) and in the lobby she agrees to my terms.

Once we get in the room we get in the shower and she's "charming" again until she tries to butter me up for an extra 500 BRL to which ofc I say no. She asks why again? I just say I don't have the cash on me. I do, but I wanted to have enough for at least another chica and overall her demeanor and pushiness was ruining my mood.

Obviously, if I wasn't willing to do 2300 why settle for 2000? I don't point this out verbally but I stay polite and firm. Terrible negotiating skills on her part.

We finish showering and get ready on the bed. She immediately becomes mechanical gave a less than mid performance. I lay ready but she just starts jerking me and I just wait to be topped off. She said "oh no I don't do that" LOL insisted on CBJ reneging on the GFE and BBJ negotiated before hand, which I did clarify. She blames it on the language barrier but I used a translator app on my phone lmao. I wonder if she planned to give this mid performance for 400 or did it out of spite LOL.

She goes on to complain about her personal expenses and how the house takes a cut and blah blah blah. Typical GPS yapping. This ruins the mood entirely and I want to bail but she insists on finishing. I guess the girls get in trouble over bad reviews or something but I had no real proof just my word against hers. She was hot but the personality and quality of service was like any boring Eros woman back home.

Additionally, what I don't like is that the house does not include the use of the room in your admission price of 700 BRL (120 USD).

Instead my companion and the house neglect to mention this until after the deed is done and spring an extra charge of 300 BRL ($50 USD) on you.

So I was salty after being backed into a corner for surprise fees and services I did not agree too. Waited in the dining room / bar for my boys to finish with their chicas.

Side note: At least the food was good. However, Brazil makes terrible Moscow mules. Why the fuck did it come with whipped cream? LOL.

I accompanied my friends to find their girls and a beautiful tan typical looking Latina approaches us but comes right to me and asks "Hablas espaol?" And a spark instantly ignited. I was so ecstatic to finally be able to clearly communicate with someone as I know Spanish. She's from another South American country and we hit it off. She says I caught her eye with my silk shirt when I first entered the club but thought I only knew English. She decided to shoot her shot anyway. We click.

I tell her about my previous experience and makes me a deal for 1 K BRL and informs our group that 1 K-1. 5 K BRL is the "standard" rate and girls over charge if they think they can rinse you. This is, after all, where So Paulo's rich come to play. I did come prepared with money but I wanted quality. My new companion DELIVERED and gave me full GFE and I worked out all of my frustration in her. Got her number to meet another day. I genuinely enjoyed her company. I wished I had noticed her sooner and I would have taken her home with me.

All in all one should visit Scandallo for the experience but find a way to gauge for their desired gift ASAP and hold out until you're about an hour or so in the club. Idk if I will revisit. Maybe one day if I get a better paying job where a bad romp won't dent my budget.

- Walto aka Passport Papi.

[QUOTE=WaltoDerri;2955997]Greetings gents. Finally made it to Brazil and share my contribution. I have mixed feelings. I went with 2 buddies. Scandalo is a beautiful facility and all but many of the girls here are typical plastic bimbos with GPS. Many dont even smile back at you. Im in my 30s and get told I still pass for my 20s. Don't know what the hype is. Personally I prefer girl next door types.

I tell her about my previous experience and makes me a deal for 1 K BRL and informs our group that 1 K-1. 5 K BRL is the "standard" rate and girls over charge if they think they can rinse you.

- Walto aka Passport Papi.[/QUOTE]"Girls over charge if they think they can rinse you. ".

Yup. That is why, regardless of the venue, it's best to immediately end the conversation if a girl throws a ridiculous rate at you. It's an insult and she's taking you for a fool. Good chance the experience will not be that great.

First WD thanks for your reports! Gets pretty incestuous in here sometimes and great to have new contributors and new opinions. Think you are spot on about Casarao. Def more a locals place everyone wearing a black tee and sneakers. And the quality overall down a notch. But wow some gems exist. We pulled a 9 and a 10 (no lie!) from Casarao last time. Just got to find the gems.

Sorry you had a dud in Scandallo but were redeemed! In all my times there only one mediocre experience. Sorry you got it out the gate. But it happens from time to time. Still no place better for glitz and glam and an almost guaranteed experience. Of course I love the chit chat drinking dancing and kissing pre-room. So a bit more my jam than urs.

Thanks again for the perspective.

[QUOTE=WaltoDerri;2955997]I have mixed feelings. I went with 2 buddies. Scandalo is a beautiful facility and all but many of the girls here are typical plastic bimbos with GPS. Many dont even smile back at you. Im in my 30s and get told I still pass for my 20s. Don't know what the hype is. Personally I prefer girl next door types. Cute over hot. Maybe it was just a bad night. There was a private event upstairs so maybe all the gems were there. However I met a tall beauty named "Nicoly". Sometimes I hate the chats but I know most women find it off putting for us to immediately ask "how much" but I find this to be better than wasting each others time if you're both just going to realize you disagree about the gift. However, this being my first time here I indulged the conversation. She speaks a little English, Italian, but ofc mostly Portuguese.

We hit it off but ultimately she quoted 2,300 BRL (400 USD).
[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing the good and the bad.

I wish you had informed the Scandallo management about your subpar experience, how the girl reneged on agreed upon services and tried to extract extra money. It is possible nothing positive will come out of it especially if that was the 1st complaint against her. I bet another such complaint will prompt some action, it not getting her kicked out. For an average Brazilian standard, kind of money these girls ask and make is insane. Do you think a scummy biach like Nicoly is going to risk it if she knows the guy might report if shitty service was provided. I bet not!

What do you think she is going to do, going forward, if there are no repercussions for providing shitty service? She is going to look for another gringo, knowing full well there are takers for $2300 (I am using yours as an example only and not picking on you. It might as well be me agreeing to for 3 K / hour ask without hesitation.), throws a higher number to see it sticks. Let's say she serves up same shitty service to the next gringo who accepts her ask and then decides it's not worth the trouble informing the management about it and moves on, which is the perfect outcome for such biach to continue same shit as long as she can. FFS, just report shitty service at venues like Scandallo, especially if you are pay well over 1. 5 K / hour. I personally would end a session immediately when a biach pulls such shit and involve management. I do that even when I know management may act in my favor or I have to pay the girl full agreed upon amount. I bet that biach is not going to pull that shit on anyone else after being exposed on how she operates to management. My gut feeling is that the places like Scandallo cares about their reputation more than we think and they will get rid of bitches like that.

Your observations about Casarao match my experience too. I do visit Casarao most of the days when I am in SP and sometimes after visiting Scandallo when I don't find anything there. I enjoy Scandallo visits with group of friends than alone.

[QUOTE=WaltoDerri;2955997]

Tried to negotiate to 1 K and we just went back and forth. Settled on 1500 BRL for extra time, GFE, (my definition including BBJ and kissing etc as it has been my experience with 17 other women in Brazil) and in the lobby she agrees to my terms.

Additionally, what I don't like is that the house does not include the use of the room in your admission price of 700 BRL (120 USD).

- Walto aka Passport Papi.[/QUOTE]One quick personal observation, when I get quoted a ridiculous price I walk away. I never got anything good out of renegotiations in such a scenario. Negotiations inside the standard parameters are ok but if someone wants to take you for a ride, this tells it all IMHO.

Quick question 700 entrance fee? Was it not 300 before 19:00 and 500 thereafter (partially consumable)?

On the ground and will hit Scandallo Tuesday, as today it's closed and Monday seems to be a bad day too?

FA.

First time in Brasil, so if I bore the old hands please forgive me.

Hit up Abbabaro Saturday afternoon, completely jetlagged but you only live once, right?

You need to know the address, go inside the long corridor, first door on the right. Say Hi and sit down somewhere. It was full of local punters and when I started to wonder the magic started. Well or just their way of doing things. One girl comes, greets each punter (who has to get up or she has to bow down, quite a scene) and mumbles her name, not always understandable and then vanishes. This goes on and on. After a girl I liked showed up the second time I just got up and told reception her name. That was apparently correct as she led me to the hotel, where you pay 150 for the room, the girls rate increased to 250, sigh.

Rooms are functional brothel rooms, you chosen one leads you there and while you shower she makes the bed, then she showers alone too. Not my preferred way but here we go. Bia (was an absolute 10, rock hard body, pretty, amazing ass and shapely A / be cups. But all professional. No kissing, little touching, very short BJ but lots of hand action. Looks 10, performance 5. Nothing of the Brazilian fire and sensuality I encountered before. So for that price pretty expensive.

WIR? Not really. Regarding transportation you can walk 10 minutes to Ibirapuera shopping, there is also a subway station. Not recommended in the night I would say.

FA.

Today is Sunday, I found one CLínica that is open Tangara but no experience reports, any thoughts? Or other possibilities?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2955527]Great report. Boots on the ground is always appreciated. You did really good at 1000 R. Remember the Reis is like USD 5.6 to 1 these days. $178. Niceeee! I used to pay 800 five or six years ago but Reis was 4:1. You did well. Really quite the bargain for top girls worldwide.[/QUOTE]Best I found was 5,45 other cambios as little as 5,25. Official rate is indeed 5,6. May try a VISA ATM, any recommendations which bank is best here in terms of extra charges?

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2956418]First time in Brasil, so if I bore the old hands please forgive me.

Hit up Abbabaro Saturday afternoon, completely jetlagged but you only live once, right?

Today is Sunday, I found one CLnica that is open Tangara but no experience reports, any thoughts? Or other possibilities?[/QUOTE]I believe that Bahamas (boate) is open on Sunday.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2956412]One quick personal observation, when I get quoted a ridiculous price I walk away. I never got anything good out of renegotiations in such a scenario. Negotiations inside the standard parameters are ok but if someone wants to take you for a ride, this tells it all IMHO.

FA.[/QUOTE]That's the smartest way. If she starts the encounter by insulting you, it's probably not going to be good. I generally don't ask for her price. Doing that invites her to throw out a high number. I've found it's better to just say this is how much I'll give you and that's it.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2956422]Best I found was 5,45 other cambios as little as 5,25. Official rate is indeed 5,6. May try a VISA ATM, any recommendations which bank is best here in terms of extra charges?[/QUOTE]For VISA ATM, my understanding is that it doesn't matter which bank's ATM you are using, and you will get the official VISA exchange rate. Of course different banks may charge different amount of fees, but your card issuing bank may be able to cover it.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2956418]Bia (was an absolute 10, rock hard body, pretty, amazing ass and shapely A / be cups. But all professional. No kissing, little touching, very short BJ but lots of hand action. Looks 10, performance 5. Nothing of the Brazilian fire and sensuality I encountered before. So for that price pretty expensive.

WIR? Not really. Regarding transportation you can walk 10 minutes to Ibirapuera shopping, there is also a subway station. Not recommended in the night I would say.
[/QUOTE]Quite a few girls are like this at this place. I had average to below average sessions most of the time at this place, so I don't visit anymore.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2956418]
Today is Sunday, I found one CLnica that is open Tangara but no experience reports, any thoughts? Or other possibilities?[/QUOTE]Clinicas Prime and Maruna are open on Sundays. Prime usually has much larger selection than Maruna and better service levels.