Angeles City

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1880958]As your first FR was to say "stay away from Pattaya if black" and your second contribution is to flame AC can I ask what time is you flight out of Asia? LOL.

If you are black as your 1st FR intimate then some Asian can be racist but then so can anyone. Takes more effort for sure and my Indian and black friends don't give up and are successful.

As for chubby AC girls. Can anyone on the ground apart from this poster comment.[/QUOTE]I think that black guys saying they have a tough time in Pattaya is 100% true.

The Thais can be very very racist but the main problem for black guys is there is so few of them here, the ones that are here are mostly illegal Africans that are up to no good which involves mostly prostitution, protection and drugs, the Thai girls know this and wrongly tar all black guys with the same paint brush.

I however have a best pal here who is black African American and a DJ in a top club, the girls know he is a good guy and has regular good work and he does very well with the ladies.

As far as fatties. Fuglies. Oldies in Angeles, read back a few pages WR, so many reports all saying the same thing (full of them) can't be that far wrong.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1880981]Learn to do math first. 95% fat? That would be 9 and one half fingers out of 10 you counted. 95% do not have enough money for food to get fat.[/QUOTE]I think you will find that many Angeles bar girls are doing very well indeed and certainly not short of food.

The problem lies with most bargirls being bone lazy, sleeping all day and eating the wrong things followed my lots of sugary drinks and very little fucking to burn up the fat LOL.

What a transformation when I was here a while ago! Full of Koreans spoiling the girls. With make up and bright light they all look pretty. Take one to hotel and ugliness has no meaning. Push up bras and even the young ones do not have nice firm boobs pointy boobs. Price through the roof. 2000-3000 bar fine plus drinks etc will cost min 6000, more than $100. I had no plans to come here but after seeing the mess in Manila airport decided to fly from here to Cebu.

Korean owned bars are really hopping. One mamasan who I knew before said old glory days are gone forever. Girls are least bothered make you happy. ST and runners are normal. The girl mamasan chose for me and she said this one will stay all night. Ok, paid 3000 and the girl wanted to bar hopping, disco but go to the room. I insisted we go to the room first. Least interested in sex. Wanted to use condom and to top that had a kind of condom smell. Not fresh at all like my other girlfriends. Well Koreans can have them for all I care. Anyway managed one time and kicked her out to sleep in solitude. I am a LT guy and over the years very good memories here. Now all are prima donnas and mamasan told me new girls do not want to come here anymore unless they are totally desperate. I believe only people who are keeping AC alive are Koreans. I had some DIA contacts but they never replied to my texts. Maybe a scam. Maybe LB. Last time I came here I had a DIA girl come from an hour away to stay with so except for bar hopping I did not try any here. Maybe there are still some who do LT but at a steep price or maybe younger guys. Before the girls liked to spend the night in comfortable air con room and give min two pops with no tip asked or given. I have taken many for dinner and shopping next day. I guess the girls are making lots of money and can afford quality accommodation.

Will update about tomorrow.

Anyway one more day to suffer and catch a flight to loving arms of my Cebu GF.

[QUOTE=BillInLosAnges;1880821] I can testify that 95% of these women are over weight. Basically, foreigners here are just "marks". Don't be a "mark", stay away from AC.[/QUOTE]This is a guy that sounds like he is afraid that someone will steal his bar fines rather than a cautionary tale. I would be happy to see fat pinays but they are rare in AC. They just don't take in enough calories to be fat. You might be mistaking no shape to fat because pinays can lack shape, a lot of them are shaped like a cylinder / no curves. This might not dawn on you while you see just pinays but if you compare them to big chested Indonesians you'll see a huge difference. For all its short comings if you are on the fence about AC it is a must see even if you just spend a few days after you have a few GFE experiences you will be at a travel agency extending your VISA another 30 literally thousands of men before you have done the same. The people who tell you to not go to AC are just insecure and want to keep it to themselves don't listen to that drivel.

The reasons not to come to AC have less to do with women and more to do with living conditions. The town really is shitty but it has gotten a lot better. Overpriced trike rides and that trike mafia that's maybe my biggest gripe with AC. They don't get rid of the bajao kids which really annoys me to no end almost to the point of me not going to AC. Rainy season it floods in some areas and when its hot its fucking hot. The plumbing in all the hotels is horrible. Filipino spaghetti is the most vile food on the planet. The fucking pitiful nut sellers that beg you to buy overpriced junk. There is a lot of shit that annoys me about AC but girls and the availability of nice looking women is not among them. Each bar has at least 1 girl I like sometimes that's not true but there in lies the beauty of AC so many bars and so many options. How can you argue with that? Many other mongering destinations take Cebu for instance you have maybe a cluster of 4-5 bars in AC you have like 100 times that to pick from that's is astonishing. They aren't as pushy for lady drinks as they are in Thailand which I love and one of the main reasons why AC is a breath of fresh air.

I must admit though being able to refuse ugly are worn out pinays is a skill but if you ask nicely more often than not they will give up and leave you alone. Just don't play into it that relax. Don't buy that lady drinks if you get nothing out of it and you'll have no problems if the girls see you are a pushover you'll be labeled as such and treated as such. Easier said than done maybe but you'll learn with time.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1881003]What a transformation when I was here a while ago! Full of Koreans spoiling the girls. With make up and bright light they all look pretty. Take one to hotel and ugliness has no meaning. Push up bras and even the young ones do not have nice firm boobs pointy boobs. Price through the roof. 2000-3000 bar fine plus drinks etc will cost min 6000, more than $100. I had no plans to come here but after seeing the mess in Manila airport decided to fly from here to Cebu.[/QUOTE]That's so true and also so sad at the same time but you also imported a girl to AC rather than pick one from the 100's of bars that says something. You must buy a shit ton of lady drinks man. Still though manila is double the cost of AC and when I visit Cebu it always feel like I have a super limited selection of chicks and have to work super hard on DIA to land girls in Cebu.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1880981]Learn to do math first. 95% fat? That would be 9 and one half fingers out of 10 you counted. 95% do not have enough money for food to get fat.[/QUOTE]Okay, 95 out of 100.

[QUOTE=BillInLosAnges;1880821]The reason for these negative posts concerning AC is to save your money. I am here now and like many other mongers I can testify that 95% of these women are over weight. Basically, foreigners here are just "marks". Don't be a "mark", stay away from AC.[/QUOTE]So why not just fuck the other 5% and make reports on them and be happy? Why be obsessed with the 95% that you do not want?

Lots of talk about how bad Angeles is. I just spent my 2nd month this year there and had a blast with the ladies. Does the food suck? Yes. Is the booze expensive in a lot of bars? Yes. Are the girls all beautiful and trustworthy in every bar? No.

Did I have a good time? Yes, trip #3 is already booked for another month. Can't wait!

By the way. I am not a long term visitor like some here. I've only been doing month long trips for about 7 years.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1880992]I think that black guys saying they have a tough time in Pattaya is 100% true.

The Thais can be very very racist but the main problem for black guys is there is so few of them here, the ones that are here are mostly illegal Africans that are up to no good which involves mostly prostitution, protection and drugs, the Thai girls know this and wrongly tar all black guys with the same paint brush.[/QUOTE]Neither me nor my friends have ever experienced a tough time in Thailand because we are Black. The only instance that I can even think of that could remotely come close was when I was trying to enter a "Japanese" club that was like Soi 3 and Beach Road. The guy told me that it was only for Japanese. I started speaking Japanese to him and he still would not let me in. So I left.

A few of my friends have fucked some Russian tourists, and one who is a member of this site even went over to Belgium where one of the Russians he was with met him. I used to fuck a Russian chick who lives there, but she wanted a commitment. So, it's usually a matter of beating chicks off and there is no case of me and my friends running into any type of racism. I have been going to Thailand since 2005 and have been living there for 6 years.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1881104]So why not just fuck the other 5% and make reports on them and be happy? Why be obsessed with the 95% that you do not want?[/QUOTE]I can hear it coming. "because the Koreans got the 5%.

I am lucky in that I do get regular trips to AC. Each time I always like to expand my horizons with some new experience or challenge. This next trip I am thinking of having some parameters like:

A) No girl over 25 years.

B) No mothers.

C) No bargirls, proper jobs only.

I'm not sure how successful I will be. I've put a little bit of work through the dating sites in the past week to get a list of office and call center gals.

I think a) is achievable, subject to checking on the liars. Younger pinay just have more energy.

"No mothers" Might be just to hard and result in limiting my supply. I just find the conversation and demands of a young mum sent to AC to provide is so different to that of a single woman looking out for herself.

"No bargirls" will limit the flexibility as I cannot access them on demand. FOr each of the pinays in my selection pool I know there shifts. Hopefully I can manage that.

I welcome people's experiences of this.

BD.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1881142]I can hear it coming. "because the Koreans got the 5%.[/QUOTE]There used to be a lot of forums that kind of quelled unrest among the mongering community and those forums and since died. So you get these guys that are not part of a community and don't really know the bar owners and tend to frequent the the clubs where they assume they are treated as second class. The forums use to sate the community by being more active in forum discussions and those safe havens used to be enough for the English speaking crowd. Since those dedicated community minded individuals few have moved on the reason why these guys whine like bitches is in my opinion just a cry for help.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;1881152] people's experiences of this.[/QUOTE]Taking them to eat off somewhere away from fields aka marquee mall is a good start, locals don't hang out on fields much they hang out in Diamond Subdivision. If you ask them to come to fields often times their family will stand in your way but if its to diamond far less likely. Pinays are really pretty easy as long as you put up a good front. They need fuel to defend fucking you to their hordes of friends / sisters that will be up in arms. If you can go meet their families in Mabalacat / Porac / wherever that also helps. If you can visit their homes first as sort of an old courting ritual your almost guaranteed sex if they go off with you.

For those who know Colin, he suffered a heart attack yesterday and passed away last night. RIP.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1880740]Pantot,

You ask why all the negative posts, how about because members wanting to be honest and posting what one see with his own eyes, experiences himself.

Thats what this board is all about, reporting what one sees, why should one who sees how far Angeles has degraded report positives, why should guys that are being scammed report they are not.

Yes agreed most posts are negative about Angeles but they are honest posts, the true life experiences of mongers is exactly what other mongers thinking of spending large money to maybe visit for the first time or after many years want to read IMHO.

I am sorry that the die hard and the guys that have a monetary interest in Angeles do not like negative truths but I for one will post what I see good or bad and not what suits some members agendas.[/QUOTE]Ok but I still don't get the fixation with responding to so many cheery post about guys who enjoy the latest AC experience about how it actually sucks. For the record I have no monetary interest in AC.

My main arguement is well, if it sucks then, as opposed to what other monger destination in the Phils or wherever for that matter in 2016?

When I first started posting in this forum. I had the same opinion about Makati, for entirely different reasons, that it sucked as a monger destination. I posted my reservations then had an incredible, to me, push back from those who thought Makati was great and some even who professed it to be a future retirement destination. I'm thinking where were the born and raised? Kowloon City? One even recounted a night he spent in some crazily overpriced hotel at P16,000 per night and he had no AC. I could have continued to rail as you do that the place is a horrible, by comparison, monger place but then I realized that those who like that place have different, circumstances, financial considerations, creature comfort necessities, business considerations etc etc than me. But rather than continue to post there and antagonize them I just stopped posting.

The guys who love Makati, are there for mostly business reasons or have far more disposable income than me. They usually have business expense accounts to cover thier daily needs, or just alot of money to burn apparently. They didn't mind paying western prices for women, hotels escorts, travel, food etc. It simply for a multitude of reasons, was not compatible with my preferences so rather than fight those that enjoy it, I stopped posting as it was not constructive. "Stop liking a place you enjoy" is a silly and shitty punch bowl turd dropping arguement frankly.

So AC is for guys on a budget mostly, on thier own dime. Sure there is ABC, Lewis Grand and the newer luxury hotels but the vast majority of mongers are paying less than 2500 per night and many many more, like me, in the 1000-1500 peso range. Many of us who like it are hopelessly Unilingually english speakers. I read with amusement a recent AC poster who waxed eloquiently about all of the exotic destinations of asia we were all missing and in particular a place in China, where the girls legs never ended. Not sure why that was posted in the Phils forum. Well most of us AC denizens personally do not have the time, language skills, connections, overall wherewithal to get to, connect, arrive and thrive in such places. Language skills and personal and professional connections by a guy are not universally transferrable to every reader.

AC is not the best part of the Phils IMO I am not arguing that. Personally I have spent more of my travels in the provinces over the years than AC. But if you want to show up, with zero prep work, language skills limited to English, spend the minimal amount of money in travel food and accomodations, and spend the least $$ on pussy. Maybe not as little as 20,15, 5 or 2 years ago. But less than any place but where? Are the girls statuesque and stunners and classical 9 or 10's? Hell they never were. They are at best cute brownish province pinays from the Visayas (for me). They won't star in the latest taglish movie in the theatre or pinoy reality TV show but who is attracted to that shit anyway? IF that's your expectation, Miss Universe younger sis that could pass the universal acclaim of a ISG Photo post forget finding her, she's there but her shit doesn't stink.

Best bet is always to barfine a girl who has been there less than 1-3 months before they get indoctrinated IMO.

Again I have no personal financial interest In Angeles Citys Bar scene surviving or failing.