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[QUOTE=EscortFan;2748916]And at the same time I'm shocked the girl isn't even willing to ride the grab I just paid her and earn an extra 10 K (yes I know it's high but that's the minimum going rate for -semi- high end girls, car show girls, wannabe models etc) and instead settle for scamming 1 K! What a lack of ambition!

I even got the case of a girl I chatted on SA for MONTHS, she's a former Solaire dealer, and ultimately, she opted to scam me for 1 K! I was shocked! So much effort to scam such a small amount. What are they thinking.[/QUOTE]Westy says: Filipinas are of typically different mind-set. They can only see the here, now, or immediate future (the next few hours). If she got your 1 K and now has enough to Jolliebee and shabu both herself and her boyfie, she can spend the next few hours high, with a full tummy, and sexing the boy she loves.

You say: But Westy, if she came for the p10 K she could buy a LOT more shabu and food, and pay the rent. What is she THINKING!

Westy says: Her mind might see it (in the academic), but that's not how she will necessarily react. Your logic and her 'whatever-goes-thru-her-head' might be far apart.

Also keep this in mind. If she is willing to cheat you out of a quick p1 k for taxi fare, she's also scamming you with a p10 K request for high-end service. Anyone looking for a quick, low-end payout (such as p1 K) is also willing to dicker down to much lower than she's asking.

While you are a fan of escorts, there are other point-shoot options easily available in the bars for the same price, where you can sit and chat the hottie in your lap over a drink, and be sure of getting some service (quality unknown prior to f*cking, as with all girls). Hit-and-miss is part of the escort experience, especially for pre-paid. Please see the similar chat from Goferring and myself in the OTHER AREAS thread.

[QUOTE=EscortFan;2748916]...And at the same time I'm shocked the girl isn't even willing to ride the grab I just paid her and earn an extra 10 K (yes I know it's high but that's the minimum going rate for -semi- high end girls, car show girls, wannabe models etc) and instead settle for scamming 1 K! What a lack of ambition!

Has anyone faced the same issues as I did or do you stick with girls that don't require DP?

[/QUOTE]The stunner set receive literally thousands of messages a day. It's a numbers game. Even if the tiniest percentage of these guys are sending her fake deposits to meet, taxi fares or medicine for grandma, then she is still making far more than actually turning up to one meet and fuck.

Sorry to say this, but you were but one in the queue.

That's the reason I never pay a deposit.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2748956]

That's the reason I never pay a deposit.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]P.S. If you want to be a Baller (and there is nothing wrong with that). There are numerous options to meet 10 k girls face to face and even post pay.

Take it or leave it prepay ultimatums scream scammer to me so just move to the next hottie.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2748958]P.S. If you want to be a Baller (and there is nothing wrong with that). There are numerous options to meet 10 k girls face to face and even post pay.

Take it or leave it prepay ultimatums scream scammer to me so just move to the next hottie.[/QUOTE]Also one of the funny part is that I talked to a few girls, that laughed at my 10 K offer just linda Evangelista famously said "I don't get out of bed for less than 10,000 USD a day".

Well there are quite a lot of girls in MNL that don't get out of bed for 10,000 php.

That's fucking insane. I mean after two years of pandemy I thought everyone would be chasing pesos. I was so fucking wrong.

Until 2022 no girls would ever reject my relatively generous offers.

The amusing part, is the girls I'm talking to, locals represents 90% if not more of their clientele. Rich locals wouldn't touch a burgos girl even with a 10 ft pole.

They need a nice story of a girl from a good family that needs money to finance her medical studies, or her law degree.

Come on mate, I'm far from being a "baller" giving 10 K per night, that's not even 200 € or USD.

I've talked to "handlers" that offered me actresses or FHM type models, the rates are between 50 K and 100 K pesos. And probably higher for superstars like famous ones!

[QUOTE=EscortFan;2748916]

Note that I mostly date girls that I find on Instagram, twitter, TikTok or even FB.

I even got the case of a girl I chatted on SA for MONTHS, she's a former Solaire dealer, and ultimately, she opted to scam me for 1 K! I was shocked! So much effort to scam such a small amount. What are they thinking.
?[/QUOTE]Do you get women through those social media outlets? I have seen hookers with saucy ads but never imagined it was "mainstream". I guess if one digs deep, I know of the walking girls on FB but I would not have the patience.

I guess Casino girl could be explained by her getting a fuck it, why go? Moment between getting the cash and getting the grab. You are talking about low level hucksterism here, and with hookers in general, so they vary form "poor but mostly honest" to entire see rooks who should be put down. Much like the endless talk here about service and value for money, Many just want to hit the pillow and sleep. Even in bed, they go the whole range from corpse to out right live wire animal.

[QUOTE=EscortFan;2748961]The amusing part, is the girls I'm talking to, locals represents 90% if not more of their clientele. Rich locals wouldn't touch a burgos girl even with a 10 ft pole.

They need a nice story of a girl from a good family that needs money to finance her medical studies, or her law degree.

Come on mate, I'm far from being a "baller" giving 10 K per night, that's not even 200 or USD.

I've talked to "handlers" that offered me actresses or FHM type models, the rates are between 50 K and 100 K pesos. And probably higher for superstars like famous ones![/QUOTE]Congrats. You're the first monger I've spoken with that understands this. Most consider that foreigners are taking the cream of the crop, not realising that we are actually firmly in the middle ground: too scared to go down skid road and not invited to the top end of town.

As you said Industrialists' sons would not be seen dead with the dark skinned, impoverished, illiterate farmers daughters that make up the bulk of foreigner "high end" Gogo's. They think nothing of dropping cars, apartment leases and Business Class airfares on truly stunning girls. Said girls would regard 10 k as barely enough for a lunchtime snack.

No offence intended with the "baller" term. I was just using to distinguish the 10 k market from the 1 k short timers.

Enjoy. G.

Arrived in Manila after a stopover for few days in Istanbul. When I was checking in at IST airport the girl would not let me check in because I did not have a negative PCR test. I showed her one health pass saying cleared to board. But nasty girl would not bother to check or ask supervisor. I guess she hated me for whatever reason. Did not know what to do. Joined another line in a different counter and that time did not have any problems. The guy did not ask for anything. I had some trouble getting one health pass. Had to repeat three times and finally got it. On boarding they ask for the vaccination card. Arriving Manila first they check one health pass. Immigration was quick. Taxi to Manila hotel, Rizal Park. Although supposed to be a regular meter taxi he said fixed price of 800 pesos. I told him I am not paying more than 400 whether he turns meter on or not. At last he accepted grumbling about traffic and why needs the money. In in my one ear and out the other.

Manila Hotel has been refurbished. Nice hotel and room. One of my DIA girls is supposedly to meet me at the airport. When texted complained she does not any money and I need to send money for her fare which I had refused before. Anyway one of my back up agreed to meet me at the hotel. Pic attached. Nice girl from Mindanao working as a sales girl in a mall. Pleasant pleasing nature. Had three shots and left early morning because she had to be at work at 7 am.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2749475] When I was checking in at IST airport the girl would not let me check in because I did not have a negative PCR test. I showed her one health pass saying cleared to board. But nasty girl would not bother to check or ask supervisor. I guess she hated me for whatever reason. Did not know what to do. Joined another line in a different counter and that time did not have any problems. The guy did not ask for anything.[/QUOTE]Check-in staff often make up their own rules, or have old non-updated rules that they follow. Alternativelu, if they've had a bad day they may just want to fuck with you. So it's better to come preperad, "PUBLIC ADVISORY No. 25 on COVID-19 TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS TO THE PHILIPPINES EFFECTIVE 30 MAY 2022" (issued by the PH consulate in Houston) clearly states that you may enter without a test if you are fully vaccinated AND boostered. I carried a print with the relevant portions highlighted. I didn't have to use that print, but it's cheap insurance. A supervisor with some brains may overrule an idiotic check-in agent after reading an official document.

Morning was spent with usual manicure, pedicure, facial and hot stone massage. Took a nice nap after. Another DIA girl was supposed to come at 4 pm but went to wrong hotel. Ended up getting her in the room at 6 pm.

Pretty face with nice set of firm boobs. Love to cuddle. She did everything to make me happy. This one is also from Mindanao. She said in Mindanao they do not pay well for jobs. This one is working in the factory. Took the day off to be with me she says. Total GFE. And zero smell in pussy which I like. Although agreed price was 2500 I gave 3000 and some Knick knacks, candy.

I had no less than 6 girls from DIA who wanted to stay with me. Weeded out to select the best ones. I had two scamsters who asked money to be sent for transportation but I told them no chance of that. For me DIA has been a gold mine to go to and I have gotten some excellent girls.

Took Air Asia flight to cebu this morning. How do they find the prettiest girls as air hostesses?

Staying at waterfront, lahug. Had arranged a girl to meet me at the airport who is from Lapulapu but I bailed out. Two girls really drained me and needed a break today.

Hi Mr S.

Quite envious of your escapades with 3! Shots!

Not sure how young you are at this moment.

Victor.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2749475]Arrived in Manila after a stopover for few days in Istanbul. When I was checking in at IST airport the girl would not let me check in because I did not have a negative PCR test. I showed her one health pass saying cleared to board. But nasty girl would not bother to check or ask supervisor. I guess she hated me for whatever reason. Did not know what to do. Joined another line in a different counter and that time did not have any problems. The guy did not ask for anything. I had some trouble getting one health pass. Had to repeat three times and finally got it. On boarding they ask for the vaccination card. Arriving Manila first they check one health pass. Immigration was quick. Taxi to Manila hotel, Rizal Park. Although supposed to be a regular meter taxi he said fixed price of 800 pesos. I told him I am not paying more than 400 whether he turns meter on or not. At last he accepted grumbling about traffic and why needs the money. In in my one ear and out the other.

Manila Hotel has been refurbished. Nice hotel and room. One of my DIA girls is supposedly to meet me at the airport. When texted complained she does not any money and I need to send money for her fare which I had refused before. Anyway one of my back up agreed to meet me at the hotel. Pic attached. Nice girl from Mindanao working as a sales girl in a mall. Pleasant pleasing nature. Had three shots and left early morning because she had to be at work at 7 am.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VictorHugo999;2750043]Hi Mr S.

Quite envious of your escapades with 3! Shots!

Not sure how young you are at this moment.

Victor.[/QUOTE]Please tell me what's DIA. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Kforab;2750241]Please tell me what's DIA. Thanks![/QUOTE]Dating in Asia, it's a dating website.

Bought the girl a jollebee dinner and let her do her own thing and went to the middle eastern restaurant to have dinner. After that checked out L A cafe. This was Sunday night at 10 pm.

Full of smoke. I thought smoking was not allowed inside restaurants and bars. However sat through one beer. Very light crowd maybe because it was Sunday. Few girls. Lots of men. Did not see any lookers. They said band will play later upstairs. None of the girls approached me or the couple of guys in neighboring tables. I was ready to check out the prices by talking to them. So I stayed half an hour inhaling all the unwanted smoke and left.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2753383]Bought the girl a jollebee dinner and let her do her own thing and went to the middle eastern restaurant to have dinner. After that checked out L A cafe. This was Sunday night at 10 pm.

Full of smoke. I thought smoking was not allowed inside restaurants and bars. However sat through one beer. Very light crowd maybe because it was Sunday. Few girls. Lots of men. Did not see any lookers. They said band will play later upstairs. None of the girls approached me or the couple of guys in neighboring tables. I was ready to check out the prices by talking to them. So I stayed half an hour inhaling all the unwanted smoke and left.[/QUOTE]I was in LA Cafe a couple of weeks ago and pulled a plain Jane type, who needed money to get to her new job in Hong Kong as a domestic nanny. At least she had some hustle in her since she explained the agent could pay her way, but the interest charges would eat up her salary. Actually, was a nice lady and wound up staying the night and wish I would have had more time with her but that was my last night in town and I flew out that next morning.

Buddy of mine just gave me a report on Maison. Anyone ever been there? He was there last night and on a Monday night at least 49 single women available to choose from. Makes me mad I missed that one!

[QUOTE=Drbombay;2753632]Buddy of mine just gave me a report on Maison. Anyone ever been there? He was there last night and on a Monday night at least 49 single women available to choose from. Makes me mad I missed that one![/QUOTE]Maison. When it re-opened as Bourbon some months back, as you entered the front door, the old long dance stage, running front-to-back (and parallel to Badajos St) was gone. There was a new wall, cutting the bar in half, running perpendicular to Badajos, with a door. You walk thru the door, and the new stage was in the far rear of the bar (where the old Bourbon DJ / CR area was), running perpendicular to Badajos. 2-ish months ago they took out the wall. Now the place is one huge room again, like the old days. That's the layout.

My experiences in it since re-opening are all the same. Bit pushy from the mama and girls to buy them drinks. There are a LOT of girls in there, and rarely more than a few guys there (in fact never saw 5 guys in the place at the same time. Majority of girls are a bit overweight. There are still plenty of lookers, due to the large number of girls. Just estimating, 40-50 girls most nights. The number of girls has been increasing for months.

Recently inside I noticed two of the former Lion's Pride (formerly WowWow) bar girls inside (the entire time LP was operating, I only saw 2 attractive girls worth doing). One of the former LP girls went from working at LP its last operational evening, to dancing on the stage at Maison 2 nights later (average face, killer hard bod).