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[QUOTE=Sperto;2220883]The joke was tasteless the first time you posted it. It doesn't become funny just because you post it once again.[/QUOTE]I posted it a second time because for some reason the initial link did not work. And it wasn't about trying to be funny at all, but more about sarcasm. What happened is a sad indictment and yet another example of Brazilian mismanagement, this time leading to the loss of a national treasure. That's what my post was about "sperto".
[QUOTE=RioBob;2220828]Well there has been a club 'LIKE' Help all along in Copacabana. It's called Dolce Vita, sure it's not near the size of Help but same type of girls, girls come in and out all night, it's really not a bad place. If you're not familiar with the history of Help it started out as a regular club in 1984 and morphed into a Putaria so I would think that is what the next Help will be also. Who knows what club will be the one to take over but Mariuzinn in Copa would be good and many girls go there already.[/QUOTE]Hi Bob.
Just curious.
Is the Balcony on Atlantica Ave still in operation? That was a fun place to go after the termas closed and people watch and I occasionally picked up a GDP there. I also enjoyed the girls that sat on the backs of cars up and down the avenida. I had never been to Help but this place was a fun diversion that took up some slack.
[QUOTE=Sperto;2220883]The joke was tasteless the first time you posted it. It doesn't become funny just because you post it once again.[/QUOTE]This is horrible.
How can this happen?
The joke was tasteless the first time you posted it. It doesn't become funny just because you post it once again.
Hi all,
I am planning a 2 month long trip in Rio from December to January. Does the quantity of girls in places like terma 4 x4 and Cancun decrease during the Christmas and new years hoilday? Do must of the girls go back home or take a break? And if so, for how long? The carnival will be in feburary so that wll not affect my trip.
I have been in Rio several times in the last few years but only for 2 -3 weeks at a time and never visited in December or January.
[QUOTE=Sperto;2220883]The joke was tasteless the first time you posted it. It doesn't become funny just because you post it once again.[/QUOTE]This is truly sad Sperto. However, you know we don't come to this forum to be culturally enlightened.
[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2221174]This is truly sad Sperto. However, you know we don't come to this forum to be culturally enlightened.[/QUOTE]
Regarding the recent fire at Museu Nacional in Rio. Museu Nacional wasn't just any museum. It used to be the home to the emperors, later on of the oldest scientific institutions in Latin-America and Brazil’s oldest and most important historical and scientific museum. The museum hold a collection of 20 million scientifically and culturally invaluable artifacts and much of it have now been destroyed. Museu Nacional was a pride to most brazilians and a cultural heritage that hold the spirit of Brazil. The circumstances of the fire are terrible. Brazil mourns this big loss.
Even if your only interest in Brazil is mongering and brazilian culture means nothing to you, even so you should respect such a big loss to the country. When the fire is a very fresh wound one shouldn't make jokes about turning the museum into a wh*rehouse. That's a joke on a very low level. That's my opinion. Feel free to think different.
Btw, Jair Bolsonaro, the front-runner in Brazil's presidential election, was stabbed yesterday during a campaign rally. Propably another issue that's of no interest to you. Culture and politics are not about bundas. However, Bolsonaro (if he wins) might have influence on your mongering.
Side-note: I just noted a funny thing. JuveStadium copying my posts. Might be an explanation in all the PMs JuveStadium (aka VilaMimosa) sent (which all went to the trash without being read).
[QUOTE=RioBob;2220828]If you're not familiar with the history of Help it started out as a regular club in 1984 and morphed into a Putaria so I would think that is what the next Help will be also.[/QUOTE]Amazing how people imagine a business person saying I am going to open up a disco for all the hookers to come to. And it is even more amazing they think this would be accepted by the members of the community. Would it be accepted in yours? Either you don't know shit about business and/or you have been in this hobby too long and have lost touch with the real world. (Seriously, what are they supposed to put when they apply for the license? How are they to advertise the place? TV advert: Hookers and tricks, come meet up at my brand new disco built just for you?) As you said, shit just morphs that way with no intention. The Help knockoff that opened up with that intention lasted all of 2 weeks.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2221239]Amazing how people imagine a business person saying I am going to open up a disco for all the hookers to come to. And it is even more amazing they think this would be accepted by the members of the community. Would it be accepted in yours? Either you don't know shit about business and/or you have been in this hobby too long and have lost touch with the real world. (Seriously, what are they supposed to put when they apply for the license? How are they to advertise the place? TV advert: Hookers and tricks, come meet up at my brand new disco built just for you?) As you said, shit just morphs that way with no intention. The Help knockoff that opened up with that intention lasted all of 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]I agree. It's like a movie sequel-it's never as good and it's forced. There won't be a new HELP but there are other things -look for and appreciate other spots for what they are-don’t knock em for what they're NOT!
Yall need HELP getting past it-stop yearning for the old and enjoy the now-plenty of spots in Rio still decent on the right day and I never got to go to HELP but love Rio.
Nonetheless.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2221239]Amazing how people imagine a business person saying I am going to open up a disco for all the hookers to come to. And it is even more amazing they think this would be accepted by the members of the community. Would it be accepted in yours? Either you don't know shit about business and/or you have been in this hobby too long and have lost touch with the real world. (Seriously, what are they supposed to put when they apply for the license? How are they to advertise the place? TV advert: Hookers and tricks, come meet up at my brand new disco built just for you?) As you said, shit just morphs that way with no intention. The Help knockoff that opened up with that intention lasted all of 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]Help never started as a disco for hookers. I'm pretty sure it started off as a regular club and then it became popular with gringos. As most foreigners when visiting Brazil they stayed around Copacabana and Ipanema area. You had very dirt poor broke attractive Brazilian women. So naturally when they see rich foreigners, the rest became history. But the reason why they closed down help was because greedy property owners in Copacabana made complaints and they thought closing down a club like help will increase there value on there property especially with the Olympics 2016. They thought the Olympics would put Brazil on the map and Copacabana would be a hot bed for tourist.
The Olympics came and went. Around 2010-2016, The Same Apartment you saw on Airbnb that was going for $200-$300 per night. In 2018 is now selling for $50 bucks. You see how greed and short sideness made you come up short? If help was still open. It would have bring in more tourist and your property value would somewhat remain high as a lot of gringos would be renting apartments and staying at hotels.
New in Paris cafe: 100 reais for 30 minutes and 150 reais for 1 hour.
[QUOTE=Sperto;2221238]...................Btw, Jair Bolsonaro, the front-runner in Brazil's presidential election, was stabbed yesterday during a campaign rally. Propably another issue that's of no interest to you. Culture and politics are not about bundas. However, Bolsonaro (if he wins) might have influence on your mongering.................[/QUOTE]You've piqued my interest here. From a monger's point of view, how will a victory by Jair Bolsonaro affect our hobby in Brazil?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2221239]Amazing how people imagine a business person saying I am going to open up a disco for all the hookers to come to. And it is even more amazing they think this would be accepted by the members of the community. Would it be accepted in yours? Either you don't know shit about business and/or you have been in this hobby too long and have lost touch with the real world. (Seriously, what are they supposed to put when they apply for the license? How are they to advertise the place? TV advert: Hookers and tricks, come meet up at my brand new disco built just for you?) As you said, shit just morphs that way with no intention. The Help knockoff that opened up with that intention lasted all of 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]I understand where you are coming from. Regardless of the laws pertaining to mongering, no city actually wants to be known for a great *****house. Certainly, the City of Rio de Janeiro "encouraged" the closure and sale of the old Help Disco.
However, boates like Scandallo in Sao Paulo and Fazendinha in Campinas are initially opened exactly as *****houses.
[QUOTE=Sperto;2221238]Regarding the recent fire at Museu Nacional in Rio. Museu Nacional wasn't just any museum. It used to be the home to the emperors, later on of the oldest scientific institutions in Latin-America and Brazils oldest and most important historical and scientific museum. The museum hold a collection of 20 million scientifically and culturally invaluable artifacts and much of it have now been destroyed. Museu Nacional was a pride to most brazilians and a cultural heritage that hold the spirit of Brazil. The circumstances of the fire are terrible. Brazil mourns this big loss.[/QUOTE]I am very interested in Brazilian history and culture. I'm honestly trying to empathize for Brazil's loss. In all my years on this board and predecessor boards, I do not remember anyone mentioning the Museu Nacional. I wish I had a chance to see it.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2221381]You've piqued my interest here. From a monger's point of view, how will a victory by Jair Bolsonaro affect our hobby in Brazil?[/QUOTE]Bolsonary is like a brazlian Trump. An ex-militar who defends the old dictatorship. He's a bit extreme. If he wins it will affect the brazilian society. I'm sure it will affect the mongering as well. In what way only the Gods know.