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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1293820]Soccer? What's that?
Soccer? There is no such sport. Football originated from England.
Any Other sport you pansies are playing? LOL[/QUOTE]Actually the first traces of it go back to a bit later than Middle Age in Tuscany, Italy. But we are not here to discuss sport, are we? So let's go back to topic. What happened to glorious Andy7 and his first time mongering in Thailand? Andy, are you reading us? Where are the reports after so many questions?
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1292916]Bangkok is very quiet at the moment, bars, restaurants and all others are complaining over very few customers around. They are blaming Euro 2012 and its the rainy season. But trying to ignore the strong baht and the ever rising cost of drinks.
We shall see come August whether things recover and it was just Euro 2012 stopping people travelling.[/QUOTE]This sounds like a typical low season. IME TGs will give you the story at any time of the year about few customers. When the rains come you get "cannot go to you today. My home rain to much!" IOW I don't want to get my hair wet. Want to eat som tam, smoke yaba and sleep all day.
Euro 2012. The Euro dollar & economy are ruining it for European 2012 mongering in LOS. LOL. Maybe try again in lucky number 13, if the world hasn't ended.
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1292916]Great time for mongerers at the moment, lots of hungry girls with no customers night after night. Easy to get good prices and good looking girls at the moment. They need their money no matter how pretty they are, or are not.
Supply and demand. Girls are in excess supply and customers are in demand. So bargain well people, its now prime mongering time.[/QUOTE]IME that will change by July.
As for a bunch of men chasing a round ball, flopping and often purposely diving to the ground when barely touched, with much crying and writhing in great agony, do they not have TV's in LOS? Do fans give up on sex for the tourny? I'm sure most Euros love their "football" 2012 more than playing footsies in bed, especially if it's a lame 3 minutes every time.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1293830]What happened to glorious Andy7 and his first time mongering in Thailand? Andy, are you reading us? Where are the reports after so many questions?[/QUOTE]He left for Tibet and is now a Monk. Apparently the Monk who sold his Black book!
[QUOTE=Bunky; 1293829]If you prefer lodging near Nana, check out the Phachara Suites.
If you gravitate toward Soi Cowboy, the Admiral Premier is an option.
Bunky[/QUOTE]Nice suggestions. There's a Bangkok Hotel thread for future reference. Most useful post in the last 48 hours on this thread. Everything else is pure garbage. A bunch of young hansum wasting bandwidth about who's got SPORT?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1293809]What does that have to do with the Original post?
Instead of posting your shit in the forum, how about you contribute something useful?[/QUOTE]Your insulting and condesending remarks regarding the topic I raised was the reason for my response to you. If you kept your remarks and insults to yourself, people would not feel the need to give you push back on your comments.
At least what I post isn't French shit like yours. Frenchys like to whine and moan, eat their cheese and drink their wine, and then expect everyone else in world to kiss their ass. Well, sorry it ain't going to happen. So grow some balls and live with it!
[QUOTE=Pointy Stick; 1293619]I totally agree with the point on initial contact and that can make or break a session no matter how much you pay. My problem is with mongers who say that just because what they are paying is 5 times the average or whatever then they have the mentality that the girl should be greatful for allowing her to take their dicks. Perhaps the girl in question was simply indicating that she didn't want to go with him in a rather polite way given that over time 500 baht may not be very much to her either if she can pull in 3000 LT a night.
I don't think you can really compare Thai to Farang mongers because their scene is so much bigger and more varied than ours. Just quoting one data point doesn't really prove that Thermae girls should be cheaper in the end.[/QUOTE]Agreed. It really does amaze me here though at how much guys think that if they pay more they will get a better session. A buddy of mine took a freelancer last week. 20, claimed to be studying, quite pretty. She didn't come on as hardened, in fact didn't even talk about money prior to going home. He said she was nice enough, a bit starfishy, but looked good enough that it didn't matter. When she left, she told him she had uni fees due the next morning, and guess what, they were exactly 2000 baht. He paid her, then tried to contact her again this week, and she blew him off. I ran into her tonight, snapped her up, had an enjoyable time with her, and gave her 1500. She asked for 2000, and I gave her a "get serious" look. She smiled, asked for my number and asked if she could come over next week. And the session was anything but starfishy. Bottom line here is you pay what you pay. What you get back or "quality" or service has absolutely ZERO to do with that, but rather with your interaction and rapport with the girl. My mates and I were discussing tonight about the 10 most expensive girls we have ever had here. And most interestingly enough, we really couldn't remember any of them, nor their service. Mongering in Thailand is most definitely not the case of you get what you pay for.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1293811]Great, come and buy, I'll drink. I'll be glad to discuss America with you. I lived and worked there a couple years and even for a million bucks I would not go back.
Actually, I should not say America, because I also worked in Canada, and I loved it. Great People! Great work atmosphere! I'm waiting for you. Oh, Can I bring my keyboard in the bar?[/QUOTE]Be gentle with Nic. I saw a picture he posted of himself. He is a walking heart attack!
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1293880]Your insulting and condesending remarks regarding the topic I raised was the reason for my response to you. If you kept your remarks and insults to yourself, people would not feel the need to give you push back on your comments.[/quote]Actually, I kinda like that, no one posts about sex here anymore! So got to find some kind of Entertainment I guess.
[quote]At least what I post isn't French shit like yours. Frenchys like to whine and moan, eat their cheese and drink their wine, and then expect everyone else in world to kiss their ass. Well, sorry it ain't going to happen. So grow some balls and live with it![/QUOTE]Ahhh, that's a well known cliché but I can accept that. Shit, we invented Afternoon sex so give us a little bit of credit.
Now that we're on the subject, what cliche would characterize the USA? (I'm not saying Americans caus I don't include Canada and South America).
Enlighten me?
[QUOTE=Humilde; 1293702]My sources; bi lingual educated thai's, thai fluent expats.
Nana Area; Soi 7 Beer Garden. Should be "Fear Garden" due toe % of nasty acting, looking FL's. Most of the FL there are at same / similar to level of FL's in BKK Chinatown (Yaowarat) that get 500 baht ST room included. Massage on Petchaburi Road includes room, bath, happy happy for 12-1400 ST afternoon special (Angelina) and you get safety knowing it is highly unlikely you will get robbed. Rachada Road (High Class Massage) many cute polite staff to choose.
1900 baht. Way better than Fear Garden. Many more places also.
Fear Garden FL not there cause they like sex. They like money and hope to find a foreigner dumb / ignorant enough to give them 3X or more market value. Then you likely get mediocre service at best from someone that could be an immigrant from "planet of the apes". Actually an insult to the fictional inhabitants of "planet of the apes" since they evolved into a logical intelligent society.
Then if that weren't enough, you may need to listen to one of the many "sympathy story scripts" designed to extract even more money from you. Even if the FL's were all beautiful LOL, Thai males have zero interest in listening to these stories, even if one is occasionally true.
Even if you find a sweet young thing at a disco, odds are against good service and enjoyment as even mainstream women are not particularly good lovers. Then you may encounter the "I hurt" or "Tickles" or "I finish I go" Lord knows why Thailand became so famous for the sex business, it's certainly not based on quality but probably quantity.
Fear Garden FL's would love to see them post a sign "Entry limited to first time in Thailand males"[/QUOTE]Very well stated on all fronts. The freelance scene on Sukhumvit is dismal. Although you might find a gem every once in awhile in the BG, they are few and far between. Thermae is really the domain of the Japanese, and so what? Nana lot, well, that is 1k baht wham bam thank you mam for the most part, and gogos are the scene of overpriced beer, sketchy performers, and questionable service.
I agree with you on quality vs quantity. Although I have had some great sessions here, usually with oily girls, for the most part Thai women are not that great in the sack. Yes, some like to "have sex" and are compliant but they are not all that skilled in the art of seduction and are not as "nasty" in the sack as most Western or Latin women I have been with. They are just not the type to go into the bathroom, slip on some sexy lingerie, and come crawling across the floor to you. But, that being said, they are really pleasant to live with and be with. They wake up happy most all the time, and you can't put a price tag on that.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1293820]Any Other sport you pansies are playing? LOL[/QUOTE]Hide the sausage.
Judging from the banter on here, it's not very popular in Thailand :).
[QUOTE=Oldian;1293899]Agreed. It really does amaze me here though at how much guys think that if they pay more they will get a better session.[/QUOTE]To use an obvious example, some of the brighter lights here might understand, when a working girl requires a tip or 2 times her ST rate for special services, like BBFS, either you pay more to get the "better session" or you simply don't get it. Capiche?
[QUOTE=Oldian;1293899]A buddy of mine took a freelancer last week. 20, claimed to be studying, quite pretty. She didn't come on as hardened, in fact didn't even talk about money prior to going home. He said she was nice enough, a bit starfishy, but looked good enough that it didn't matter. When she left, she told him she had uni fees due the next morning, and guess what, they were exactly 2000 baht. He paid her, then tried to contact her again this week, and she blew him off. I ran into her tonight, snapped her up, had an enjoyable time with her, and gave her 1500. She asked for 2000, and I gave her a "get serious" look. She smiled, asked for my number and asked if she could come over next week. And the session was anything but starfishy. Bottom line here is you pay what you pay. What you get back or "quality" or service has absolutely ZERO to do with that, but rather with your interaction and rapport with the girl. My mates and I were discussing tonight about the 10 most expensive girls we have ever had here. And most interestingly enough, we really couldn't remember any of them, nor their service. Mongering in Thailand is most definitely not the case of you get what you pay for.[/QUOTE]I'd rather pay the extra 17 measely bucks & not have to "interact" or have "rapport with the girl". It's well worth it for the extra few dollars. Just suck my cock & fuck me for 3 hours, get paid & get out. BTW, my phone never stops ringing and recieving PM's from such girls, although I have it on mute 24/7.
But for you Don Juan types, carry on making the girl think you are like a BF, when you only want to save a few pennies. And beware being susceptible to the traps of TG magic, like so many naive Westerners have fallen into. Between me and my regulars there is no such BS. BTW, I doubt you have more charisma than their Thai lovers do. They could take the vast majority of farangs to school.
Transited through Bangkok a couple of weeks ago and had a choice to make, stay at a hotel near the airport and be bored, or head to a hotel near Sukhumvit and have some fun. Went for the later choice and had some fun. Stayed in the Grand Majestic on Soi 2, good little hotel, close to the action and easy to get too / from the airport.
[U][B]Night 1[/B][/U]
Had plans to walk round as many bars as possible, having a couple of beers as I go, look for a girl of choice and bar fine at some point. Started in the pool bar just down from Annie's at about 4pm. Few OK looking girls there, and a few more started to arrive whilst I supped on a beer, but nothing of great interest, and most of the girls looked as if they had seen better days. Moved one bar down and generally the same. Decided it was time for food (the edible kind) and went round to the Irish Bar on Soi 4 and sat outside watching the world go by whilst having a few more beers and getting some sustenance into my system. Was a great place to watch the world go by, plenty of eye contact, plenty of approaches and certainly enough lookers walking up and down to the street to keep my interest up. Decided to move on to the bar at the entrance to Nana Plaza. Have sat in here on previous visits, always a good place to watch the talent going into Nana when it's too early to hit the clubs themselves. My plan had been to have a couple of beers then head into the Plaza. This plan disappeared when I started to talk to a couple of the "waitresses". Jai and Fon. Ended up stying in here for a few hours and then going WTF. And bar fined both of them. 600 baht for each. We headed off towards the hotel but decided to stop off at the pool bar I had previously been in. The look on the face of the girls who had seen me earlier was interesting. The old "missed chance". Anyway, after a couple of games of pool it was back to the hotel. No problems getting the girls into the hotel. Didn't even get asked for I'd. By the time we reached back to the hotel I had 4 1/2 hours before I had to head to the airport (had a 7am flight to catch) , so things needed to start happening quickly. I had a quick shower then headed to the bed, the girls headed off to the bathroom then it was a sort of free for all. They mixed up who was giving the BBBJ and who was going DATY. They banged heads charging for the BBBJ. What a problem. Had a couple of hours bouncing around in the bed, as you would do with two girls. Then decided to let one go, hell I needed at least one hours sleep before a dawn surprise and a taxi to the airport. Gave each of the girls 2000 baht. Would classify them as nothing spectacular but where a good laugh. Fon appeared to be the one who enjoyed herself more, certainly didn't need any lubrication!
[U][B]Night 2[/B][/U]
On my return back through, a few days later, I met up with a non-mongering friend for a few beers (he lives in Bangkok). I'd walked past the bar that I'd picked up Jai and Fon from, and they where there, said my hellos, then headed off to meet my mate. After a few beers we headed down towards Nana (he may not monger but he does have fun in the bars). Called back into the bar and the girls weren't there. Not that I was aiming to bar fine them again, but would have had some fun in the bar with them. The other girls in the bar tried to spin some stories that they had to go off and sort out some personal business and would be back, just had to wait around. Laughed that one off, do they really think we're that dumb. They'd been bar fined, why don't they just say that. Anyway, we had one drink then headed into the Plaza. First stop was Spankies. Have had a couple of fun non-mongering nights in here before and there was a few girls that recognized me. There were a few good looking girls, some I would happily have had some fun with, but not a lot. Had a few beers, drank some shots then my friend wanted to move on so we went next door to Angel Witch. The selection of girls in there was a lot better. After we ordered drink we pulled down a couple of girls from the stage. My mate was actually getting close to going home time and he knew I was hanging around, and I thought I'd made my choice for the night, untill she sat down beside me and smiled. Ahhhhhh, braces. She was a gorgeous looking girl, but sorry, I aint letting anybody near my tackle with braces on. So with my mate gone, and staring at braces I decided to drink up and move on. Next stop DC-10, OK, that's a mistake, small narrow bar, low quality girls, one beer, then next bar. Decided to hit Rainbow 4. Sat down, ordered a drink and admired the view. Lot's of good looking girls (in my view) , so decided it was just a matter of choosing one and heading off to the hotel. That decision was made easier when I was approached by a girl that I would classify as a 7 or 8, a few pleasantries and we're heading out the door at about 10pm. Now my biggest problem is I tend not to negotiate what I'm after and this girl ended up being what I would classify as a dud. My fault, so I can't complain. This was a CBJ girl, hell hadn't come across one of those in a long time. Not much to say about the time in bed. Couple of hours of rolling around, not star fish, but close. Not something I would repeat (can remember her face, but not her name). Anyway. 600baht + 2000baht and two hours later, it's midnight, and I'm lying on my bed, thinking it's 5 1/2 hours till I have to be at the airport. Smart brain says sleep, dumb brain says sod it, you're in Bangkok, you can sleep on the plane. So, it's up and at them, quick shower and change and it's off we go. I pretty much had a girl in mind. As mentioned earlier I had been in Spankies a few times (not including the current) , and the last time I was there with my non-mongering mate he pulled the girl with the biggest set of plastic fantastic's in the bar and had proceeded to fondle the hell out of them and her for a couple of hours. We had a drink with her earlier in the evening and I decided I need to have a go at them myselfmyself. So back to Spankies I went and there she was shuffling on the stage. She recognized me and came down and sat beside me. She drinks tequila shots for ladies drink, and had already had a few, so I'm dealing with a drunk girl. This can go one of two ways. Dud or over the top. Anyway, dumb brain engaged I bar fined her and off she went to get changed. She came back in what you could call a dress, with the fun bags just sitting out front. What a sight. Problem 1 arose at that point. She had washed off her make-up and she wasn't the best looking of girls underneath it. Definitely had suffered from an acne problem before. Dumb brain in gear. Let's go anyway. I've paid the bar fine. So off we went to the hotel. By the time we got back to the room I had a giggling girl ripping her clothes off as she walked thru the door. She charged into the bathroom for a quick shower, were I joined in and the fun really started. This girl was up for everything and anything. She drooped down to start a really nice BBBJ in the shower, but with all the beer and a two hour season just completed that was going to take a while, so I pulled her into the bedroom and decided to dine on some nice Thai pussy. This girl really got into that and it wasn't hard to figure out that she was enjoying herself. She was in full flow and grinding my head into her. The next thing she is grabbing my fingers and pushing them into her and then starts to play with her ass. Ah well, time to make up for the dud two hours ago, and to be less than subtle, and hell this is a forum for guys that want to know, by the time I was finished with this girl she could just about take a full hand in either her pussy or her ass and she was soaking the bed. By now I was up and raring to go and we had sex in many positions in both holes finally ripping of my condom and exploding over her back a couple off hours after we had hit the room. By now it was supposedly two hours to taxi time and we where exhausted. Decision made to see how quickly I can get thru BKK airport and decided that I was definitely up for a dawn strike with this one. She curled over beside me, with my hand just about inside her again and she went off to sleep. Two hours later, the alarm goes and it's repeat session. Must admit, was a really good night. The only girl I have had better with is a regular freebie I have in Jakarta who may as well be a porn star actress. So all in all, as far as looks go I would have given this girl a 5 to 6, but service up around the 9 to 10. Easy to pick out in Spankies. Very slim, massive set of silicon tits, and a massive tattoo on her left shoulder of a dragon wrapped around a tiger. Buy her some drinks. It was definitely worth it, and I would definitely go there again. Unfortunately I just don; t make it to Bangkok too often. (cost was the standard 600 + 2000)
On another point, with reference to some comments earlier in the thread, there where 3 "Indian" looking guys sitting in front of me, so if you have problems getting into some of the other bars head to Spankies. They seem to be less discriminatory. Have fun.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1293960]Very well stated on all fronts. The freelance scene on Sukhumvit is dismal.[/QUOTE]Dismal? That may be your best chance of having real sex, albeit higher risk, unless you take precautions. See Safe Sex thread for more details or elaboration.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1293960]Although you might find a gem every once in awhile in the BG, they are few and far between.[/QUOTE]Uh, yeah, this is well known to be one of the worst pickup spots in Thailand. Compare Grace Hotel & Chinatown.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1293960]Thermae is really the domain of the Japanese, and so what?[/QUOTE]Domain? Fuck the Japs! Many girls here are hot, just offer substantially more than them, like 6000 baht, and you are good to go! But other than doing that, which I've never actually tried, I've had as good experiences here as BG, namely few and far between. So just walk up to any girl you love and say "Can I take you short time for 10 thousand baht" & report back here how it went. And thank me later. LOL. If she says ok, then say how about 5000, 3000, etc, and see how low she will go. LOL.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1293960]Nana lot, well, that is 1k baht wham bam thank you mam for the most part,[/QUOTE]Maybe 10% of freelancers there & in the area nearby are worthy of repeats IME & IMO. At times, if you are lucky, you can pick up a stunner for that price, I. E. Young very cute petite uni girl in a school girl uniform.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1293960]And gogos are the scene of overpriced beer, sketchy performers, and questionable service.[/QUOTE]Most opinions I've read on forums agree, including here, in spite of a few recent opinions to the contrary, one which was based on a solitary experience of a well reviewed gogo, with a fresh off the farm very young girl. How dumb was that? Giotto was surely rolling over in his / her grave, er, lodge, in Cambodia, at that review. LOL! BTW I must check him & his girls out some time. In cognito, of course.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1293960]I agree with you on quality vs quantity. Although I have had some great sessions here, usually with oily girls, for the most part Thai women are not that great in the sack. Yes, some like to "have sex" and are compliant but they are not all that skilled in the art of seduction and are not as "nasty" in the sack as most Western or Latin women I have been with. They are just not the type to go into the bathroom, slip on some sexy lingerie, and come crawling across the floor to you. But, that being said, they are really pleasant to live with and be with. They wake up happy most all the time, and you can't put a price tag on that.[/QUOTE]Thai culture is conservative compared to the crazy Latinos. Each has their advantages. Personally I like variety & can find both types & everything I want in Siam.
You ever been to Bangkok?
[QUOTE=Humilde; 1293702]My sources; bi lingual educated thai's, thai fluent expats.
Nana Area; Soi 7 Beer Garden. Should be "Fear Garden" due toe % of nasty acting, looking FL's. Most of the FL there are at same / similar to level of FL's in BKK Chinatown (Yaowarat) that get 500 baht ST room included. Massage on Petchaburi Road includes room, bath, happy happy for 12-1400 ST afternoon special (Angelina) and you get safety knowing it is highly unlikely you will get robbed. Rachada Road (High Class Massage) many cute polite staff to choose.
1900 baht. Way better than Fear Garden. Many more places also.
Fear Garden FL not there cause they like sex. They like money and hope to find a foreigner dumb / ignorant enough to give them 3X or more market value. Then you likely get mediocre service at best from someone that could be an immigrant from "planet of the apes". Actually an insult to the fictional inhabitants of "planet of the apes" since they evolved into a logical intelligent society.
Then if that weren't enough, you may need to listen to one of the many "sympathy story scripts" designed to extract even more money from you. Even if the FL's were all beautiful LOL, Thai males have zero interest in listening to these stories, even if one is occasionally true.
Even if you find a sweet young thing at a disco, odds are against good service and enjoyment as even mainstream women are not particularly good lovers. Then you may encounter the "I hurt" or "Tickles" or "I finish I go" Lord knows why Thailand became so famous for the sex business, it's certainly not based on quality but probably quantity.
Fear Garden FL's would love to see them post a sign "Entry limited to first time in Thailand males"[/QUOTE]