Hong Kong Club Reports

Had to laugh seeing Dcel75's report. I too was staying at the Travelodge (great price) , although I didn't make it to HK until about 7:30. Decided to simply take it slow and relax. Early on a girl (Elizabeth?) started dancing in the mini dance space at my booth / table, doing the fun tease sticking her bare tits in my face / mouth and doing some LFK. After a while she climbed into my lap. Normally I don't buy drinks for the girls, instead saving my $$$ for the trip upstairs, but I decided that $9 for what amounts to a full contact lap dance ($8 for drink, $1 for tip) in truth was a pretty good deal (vs. US prices) so we had a nice long high contact LFK lap dance.

But it was early, and I was in no rush. Her English was pretty non existent, but still told her to come back in an hour. Over the course of the next couple of hours, I had 3 more extended drink / dances with ladies. Relaxing. No rush. But in the end, decided that the "bad girl" of the bunch with the most potential was Elizabeth. She'd moved to the other end of the club, but when she failed to make the sale, she walked right by and I grabbed her. After yet another drink / dance, I suggested going upstairs. She seemed almost surprised, but 5 minutes later we're naked on the bed. Pretty close to GFE foreplay. More LFK and some DFK, finger (s) deep in her pussy within a minute of starting, lots of contact. I *almost* thought I'd get the BBBJ, but no luck on that score. But lots of deep sucking, ball licking, and more fingers deep in the pussy. Then, she puts her tits on the bed, sticks her ass high, and insists that I go in deep. Gosh, that was fun. After a while at that, we flipped and I got her on top, and eventually we had a rousing finish.

After some further cuddling on the bed, it was into the shower for both of us. Bottom line. Highly recommended.

OK, name might not be Elizabeth, but she was about 5'5", dark prominent nipples, B tits, maybe 26-28 years old, no belly bulge, not skinny, but no extra pounds, darker skin (but not too dark). A winner all around.

Watch out for this girl, she ripped me off.

We agreed to 600 pesos before the room and she changed to 700 pesos after I took a shower so I couldn't return the room. Also jerked on my balls hard and it hurt like hell and I told her to stop and she wouldn't so I had to restrain here. Blocked full penetration and was a *****.

She's about 5 feet tall. 95 pounds ish, darker spinner. 18 years old, lighter highlights, wore a high school style headband.

Watch out for this girl, she ripped me off.

We agreed to 600 pesos before the room and she changed to 700 pesos after I took a shower so I couldn't return the room. Also jerked on my balls hard and it hurt like hell and I told her to stop and she wouldn't so I had to restrain her. Blocked full penetration and was a.

She's about 5 feet tall. 95 pounds ish, darker spinner. 18 years old, lighter highlights, wore a high school style headband.

Visited HK Saturday night, walked in from the cool evening and it was hot inside, in my head I was hearing that Nelly song 'Hot in Here'. I saw Kenya dancing at one of the small booth poles, hadn't even opened my first beer and I was already getting a boner watching her. She's a fair-skinned chica, permed blonde hair, with a nice ass and enhanced boobs. She was looking real good, wearing a black bikini, the type of top that has two thin pieces rising from the bottoms up vertically over her boobs. So I slide a dollar in her bikini and tell her vamos arriba. I've been with her a couple of times before so I know she's good in bed, and off we go.

Afterwards I head back down to HK to drink and relax. I see a girl dancing on stage that I haven't noticed before. She's has bangs, with long brunette hair and a few highlight streaks. Cute slender body and nice moves on stage, and I'm immediately wishing I hadn't just blown a load so I could take this chica upstairs right away. I was mesmerized. I knew I needed some time to reload so I just kept drinking and thought I'the find her later. A chica I've talked to before came by and sat down in the booth, she's cool to talk to but I wasn't going to take her up, but I got her a drink anyway. After some time I told her I was leaving, and I went for a couple slow laps around the club looking for the chica with the bangs, but I couldn't find her. I was disappointed I didn't see her, didn't know if she was upstairs for a long time or had finished for the night, bummer. It was a good night at HK, but I decided to leave to AB for round two of the evening.

I'm in Brazil right now and it is of course damn expensive! I went to Tijuana in 2010 and for the most part failed miserably. I was using a different site for info and basically just didn't know what was up. I did however get referred to Hong Kong and had one good session inside. The next girl in HK would only do CBJ and cut my session short. I had a two terrible rushed sessions with street girls, one OK session with an Adelita's girl and the last straw was a super hot dead fish from Adelita's who basically wouldn't let me touch the goods. She just layed there and wanted me to finish fast in missionary. I said F*ck this, went back to San Diego and flew home. I had one BBBJ from the good session at Hong Kong, but the rest were quick and covered. I'm not at all knocking Tijuana, just my experience. I just didn't know, at the time, how to get the most bang for my buck. After being back for a while and coming accross this site, I realized I probably could have had an amazing time. So I'm wondering:

1. How much for a Hong Kong girl to come back to my room for 1hr.

2. If negotiated up front, how many of these girls perform BBBJ?

3. What percentage if any of these girls are Completa?

4. What does an average Hong Kong girl charge for overnight?

5. Can you take girls home from Adelita's or other bars?

6. Does anyone have any favorite girls with solid service they would be willing to recommend?

Any help would be very much appreciated.

In comparing the Rio Termas, like 4x4, with Hong Kong Club in Tijuana, these are my observations:

HK Pros.

- No entrada or entrance fee, but the waiters (meseros) want you to buy drinks.

- The stage shows are more interactive, with the fingering and licking for a dollar.

HK Cons.

- The women. Brazilian women are just way, way hotter in every respect, especially the bundas.

- The sex. As The Economist said, sex is the second national sport in Brazil.

- The men. I don't know what it is about Mexican culture vs Brazilian, but I just really dislike a waiter asking me every 30 seconds if I want a drink. I would rather go to a Rio terma like 4x4, pay the $50 R entrada as part of the deal, and then not be hounded by some little scuzzball, cum-swabbing, jerk-off trying to "introduce" me to the girls.

So, with that rough comparison, HK is the best of the little armpit known as Tijuana. There are some hot girls in HK, better than all the other clubs like Adelitas, IMHO. I had one 19 year old 2 weeks ago who did BBBJ, and another young one with a hot body a few days ago who was good. 70dlls for 30 minutes. Plus 15dlls for the room.

But again, the main problem is that every step of the procedure is eff'd up by some dude in the process: the waiters buzzing around like horse flys on piles of dung, constantly asking for tips; the guy at the door who asks for a tip to put a little robe on the girl going into the hotel; the guy at the front desk of the hotel who asks for an additional dollar for a little thing of lube; and then when you're done, two cum-towel-heads outside who want a tip for?

A Rio Terma, by contrast, shows just how much the Brazilians have elevated sex to an art. I won't go into the details, but Mexico / HK club, currency considerations aside, just is kind of like eating a week old Big Mac that has been left out in the sun warmed over in a microwave compared to a filet mignon.

Not all Latin American nations are the same. Hong Kong Club may be the best club in Mexico, but it would be the worst club in Rio.

[QUOTE=Satyr23; 1209664]I'm in Brazil right now and it is of course damn expensive! I went to Tijuana in 2010 and for the most part failed miserably. I was using a different site for info and basically just didn't know what was up. I did however get referred to Hong Kong and had one good session inside. The next girl in HK would only do CBJ and cut my session short. I had a two terrible rushed sessions with street girls, one OK session with an Adelita's girl and the last straw was a super hot dead fish from Adelita's who basically wouldn't let me touch the goods. She just layed there and wanted me to finish fast in missionary. I said F*ck this, went back to San Diego and flew home. I had one BBBJ from the good session at Hong Kong, but the rest were quick and covered. I'm not at all knocking Tijuana, just my experience. I just didn't know, at the time, how to get the most bang for my buck. After being back for a while and coming accross this site, I realized I probably could have had an amazing time. So I'm wondering:

1. How much for a Hong Kong girl to come back to my room for 1hr.

2. If negotiated up front, how many of these girls perform BBBJ?

3. What percentage if any of these girls are Completa?

4. What does an average Hong Kong girl charge for overnight?

5. Can you take girls home from Adelita's or other bars?

6. Does anyone have any favorite girls with solid service they would be willing to recommend?

Any help would be very much appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Satyr23; 1209664]I'm in Brazil right now and it is of course damn expensive! I went to Tijuana in 2010 and for the most part failed miserably. I was using a different site for info and basically just didn't know what was up. I did however get referred to Hong Kong and had one good session inside. The next girl in HK would only do CBJ and cut my session short. I had a two terrible rushed sessions with street girls, one OK session with an Adelita's girl and the last straw was a super hot dead fish from Adelita's who basically wouldn't let me touch the goods. She just layed there and wanted me to finish fast in missionary. I said F*ck this, went back to San Diego and flew home. I had one BBBJ from the good session at Hong Kong, but the rest were quick and covered. I'm not at all knocking Tijuana, just my experience. I just didn't know, at the time, how to get the most bang for my buck. After being back for a while and coming accross this site, I realized I probably could have had an amazing time. So I'm wondering:

1. How much for a Hong Kong girl to come back to my room for 1hr.

2. If negotiated up front, how many of these girls perform BBBJ?

3. What percentage if any of these girls are Completa?

4. What does an average Hong Kong girl charge for overnight?

5. Can you take girls home from Adelita's or other bars?

6. Does anyone have any favorite girls with solid service they would be willing to recommend?

Any help would be very much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Your experience mirrors many others'. I rarely like SGs, because of the rush-rush. Even the ones that don't still have a 20 minute time limit. I find the older ones, up the street, go for 30 minutes, usually.

CBJ is pretty much the standard in Tijuana. There are exceptions, but very few. And you usually have to get to know them better. And the cover may never come off, no matter how often you repeat. Maybe if you slip a ring on her finger it might.

I'll take a stab at your list.

1. Won't happen. When on duty, they must check out of the club, check into the hotel, check back into the club. They must use the club's hotel.

2. Very few. You can ask, but it's pretty much drummed into them. My guess is about 25, but that's a guess.

3. Maybe 1% Could be as high as 10, perhaps. Depends on age and looks, usually. Expect to pay a premium, if it's available. But it is very much the exception.

4. Whatever she thinks you'll pay. Prices from $100 to $200 have been bandied about, with larger number not unheard of. Depends on how much she likes you. If she's a night shift girl, an all-night is going to be about 3 hours, give or take. They don't get off until the wee hours, and often need to leave by 6. Either ask an afternoon shift chica, or get one on her day off.

5. After their shift, they are free to go wherever they feel like. If you mean, are Adelita's and other bars operated differently than HK, the answer is no.

6. If they do, they probaly won't post it here. Ja Ja Ja!

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1; 1209696]In comparing the Rio Termas, like 4x4, with Hong Kong Club in Tijuana, these are my observations:

HK Pros.

- No entrada or entrance fee, but the waiters (meseros) want you to buy drinks.

- The stage shows are more interactive, with the fingering and licking for a dollar.

HK Cons.

- The women. Brazilian women are just way, way hotter in every respect, especially the bundas.

- The sex. As The Economist said, sex is the second national sport in Brazil.

- The men. I don't know what it is about Mexican culture vs Brazilian, but I just really dislike a waiter asking me every 30 seconds if I want a drink. I would rather go to a Rio terma like 4x4, pay the $50 R entrada as part of the deal, and then not be hounded by some little scuzzball, cum-swabbing, jerk-off trying to "introduce" me to the girls.

So, with that rough comparison, HK is the best of the little armpit known as Tijuana. There are some hot girls in HK, better than all the other clubs like Adelitas, IMHO. I had one 19 year old 2 weeks ago who did BBBJ, and another young one with a hot body a few days ago who was good. 70dlls for 30 minutes. Plus 15dlls for the room.

But again, the main problem is that every step of the procedure is eff'd up by some dude in the process: the waiters buzzing around like horse flys on piles of dung, constantly asking for tips; the guy at the door who asks for a tip to put a little robe on the girl going into the hotel; the guy at the front desk of the hotel who asks for an additional dollar for a little thing of lube; and then when you're done, two cum-towel-heads outside who want a tip for?

A Rio Terma, by contrast, shows just how much the Brazilians have elevated sex to an art. I won't go into the details, but Mexico / HK club, currency considerations aside, just is kind of like eating a week old Big Mac that has been left out in the sun warmed over in a microwave compared to a filet mignon.

Not all Latin American nations are the same. Hong Kong Club may be the best club in Mexico, but it would be the worst club in Rio.[/QUOTE]Alright! That was hilarious and informative! Thanks for your post.

[QUOTE=Satyr23; 1209664]3. What percentage if any of these girls are Completa?[/QUOTE]What does this slang mean? Not familiar with it. Thanks.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1; 1209696]In comparing the Rio Termas, like 4x4, with Hong Kong Club in Tijuana, these are my observations:

HK Pros.

- No entrada or entrance fee, but the waiters (meseros) want you to buy drinks.

- The stage shows are more interactive, with the fingering and licking for a dollar.

HK Cons.

- The women. Brazilian women are just way, way hotter in every respect, especially the bundas.

- The sex. As The Economist said, sex is the second national sport in Brazil.

- The men. I don't know what it is about Mexican culture vs Brazilian, but I just really dislike a waiter asking me every 30 seconds if I want a drink. I would rather go to a Rio terma like 4x4, pay the $50 R entrada as part of the deal, and then not be hounded by some little scuzzball, cum-swabbing, jerk-off trying to "introduce" me to the girls.

So, with that rough comparison, HK is the best of the little armpit known as Tijuana. There are some hot girls in HK, better than all the other clubs like Adelitas, IMHO. I had one 19 year old 2 weeks ago who did BBBJ, and another young one with a hot body a few days ago who was good. 70dlls for 30 minutes. Plus 15dlls for the room.

But again, the main problem is that every step of the procedure is eff'd up by some dude in the process: the waiters buzzing around like horse flys on piles of dung, constantly asking for tips; the guy at the door who asks for a tip to put a little robe on the girl going into the hotel; the guy at the front desk of the hotel who asks for an additional dollar for a little thing of lube; and then when you're done, two cum-towel-heads outside who want a tip for?

A Rio Terma, by contrast, shows just how much the Brazilians have elevated sex to an art. I won't go into the details, but Mexico / HK club, currency considerations aside, just is kind of like eating a week old Big Mac that has been left out in the sun warmed over in a microwave compared to a filet mignon.

Not all Latin American nations are the same. Hong Kong Club may be the best club in Mexico, but it would be the worst club in Rio.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure that it is fair to compare HK to any termas in Rio.

First, I live 20 minutes from Tijuana, vice the 14-16 hours to Rio. I was there for carnival in 2004 and 2006 and had a blast, but it was expensive, unlike Tijuana. But in Rio, the girls were a lot hotter hands down! I went to several thermas, including 4 x 4, which I was not impressed with the quality of women. But was impressed with the women at Centauras; but they were pricy.

Seeing how Help Disco is gone, I would not consider Hong Kong Club would be the worst club in Rio.

generally, there are two problems with sex in tijuana. the sex, and the mexicans.

the best sex i ever had in tijuana was with a brasileira, a swimsuit model of some type, julia from hottijuana. net, about 5 years ago. like most brasileiras, she loved sex, fucked because she wanted to get off, and inspired me to go to her native land.

now, at the hong kong club, there are pros and cons compared to the rio termas, like 4x4 or luomo.

hk pros:

- not as expensive travel to rio.

hk cons:

- in a rio terma, once you get into the club, everything is taken care of. you are in a robe, you have your number on a little wrist band. most importantly, you talk to the girls and no waiter interrupts you as soon as you start chatting. most importantly, dfk is allowed, and goes on for minutes, or even an hour. grabbing bunda, seios, making out. depends on the time of day (i like arrriving right after opening, so i am maybe 1 of 5 guys, and there are 15 to 30 girls, so i am really not taking their time from another prospective client). in the hong kong club, a girl will never dfk in the club, and even in the hotel room, she will almost never dfk (my experience has been 1 of 3 dfk a little).

- in a rio terma, the girls are competing with each other on sex. and the sex is at the level of best in the world. dfk is always part of the deal. you can get to know the girl in the boate and have a pretty good idea of how the session will go with the dfk and all the grabbing. spend an hour in 4x4, and 5 girls will grab your package. you get up to the cabine, and most of the girls are completa (anal) , most multiple times. most will do bbbj cim. all will do bbbj. if you're a regular, they will compete by licking your balls and giving it harder. jackie, milked 3 loads out of me in an hour at 4x4, my first time in a rio terma. but in hong kong club, even the hottest girls, the sex is way below those levels. no dfk, maybe a second or two. with 30 minutes, the girl seems rushed. i had a 4x4 girl (suellen) tell me. 40 minutes is just not much time and she was right. with the best hk girl, i had 69 (cbj) , cowgirl, then doggy, getting close to 30 minutes, so i popped. in rio, i would just be warming up. the best hk girl has a nice ass, but there are no bundas in hk that touch the top 20% of the bundas in rio termas like 4x4, luomo.

- the mexican women. if you look around, you can find a brazilian or a dominican girl in tijuana.

- the flies on the dung. that is, the mexican men. nibbled to death by ducks is the experience of hong kong club waiters while talking to the girls in hong kong club. so, on saturday, i go behind this one hot ass girl that i later go upstairs with. i grab her hot little ass (tipping a $1) , and grab her tits (tipping a $) , start kissing her neck, and she is liking it from the way she is moving and then someone is tapping my shoulder and practically shouting in my ear,"you want a drink?" and the answer is no. i want to grab her ass for about 2 minutes more, then go upstairs and f&k. i don't want to talk to a man. i don't want to see a man. i don't want to have a man in 10 meters, better yet 100 meters of me. some people are into group sex, but not me. i just want sex with the hottest woman, or women. not the mexicans. if you are having a good time with a woman, a mexican guy / waiter at hong kong club will come up and spoil the buzz. ok, i get the business model. instead of an entrada, they need to cover the bar expenses on drinks. you know what? bad model. gay model. homosexual, annoying, stupid model. but i understand the model.

- so, you get the girl to come with you upstairs. then there is some guy at the entrance who wants you to tip him a dollar for putting a robe on her. then there is some guy at the hotel front desk who wants you to tip him one dollar for lube (in 4x4, the girls come to the cabine with their little case, and there is always "gel" in there for the completa). then, and this is maybe the most annoying, there are two little cum-towel-heads waiting outside when your paltry 30 minutes is done, also asking for tips. if you say no, you get this hurt little guilt thing, but the main thing is, i just fucked the hottest girl i could find in this little infected armpit of a city, and i want to be left the fuck alone. now in the rio terma, they understand that. they leave you alone, you go back into the boate. you chill for 15 minutes, you start grabbing asses and dfk with other girls again. oh, by the way, in a rio terma, the girls at the front desk are women who check you in. in the changing room, the attendants are old women. at the mini-front-desk for the cabine upstairs, the attendants are women. in the sauna, the attendant is a woman. after you get inside the rio terma, the only men by my count are the bartenders who never hassle you, a security guy, and an announcer. in the hong kong club, there is at least one waiter (mesero) per girl, and every one of them acts like a fly competing for a extra little bite of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113][CodeWord113][/url]; or a vulture circling for an extra little bight of dead flesh; and the carrion that they are feasting upon is the moments of attraction to the very few women in the club who are doable.

when you add it all up, it is not the money. it's how all the jerks asking for the money in little increments nibble you to death by ducks. nadiring nabobs. tell you what, i will pay $25 for entrada if it covers a the room, if no male waiters approach me, and no one asks for extra tips, and just go in and talk to a girl to figure out if she will be a good f*k.

anyway, to satyr's questions:

- you don't get an hour, just 30 minutes at hk.

- no completa. i am working on one girl, if so i will let you know by pm.

- overnight. i have had a rio terma girl tln 4 times, bbfs, best sex of my life, half italian-brazilian. never in tijuana. frankly, i haven't run into one with combination of looks and sex skills that would make me want tln, except for that brasilian girl in tijuana several years ago.

- no bbbj at hong kong.

[quote=satyr23;1209725]alright! that was hilarious and informative! thanks for your post.[/quote]

IMO:

Tijuana beats the sh*t of anything in the states, especially since I am a fat, old (63) f*rt. There are some very beautiful women in Tijuana, but the services do a majority of the times (95-99%) lack what is given in other mongering destination. While I have never been to Brazil, IMO the Colombiana's on a whole are way hotter, and generally give GFE. While in the PI, the women are less hotter than Latina's (Just MO) , they also will knock the ball out of the park as far as GFE. I will be making my first trip to Thailand next year, and from what my amigo tells me it is also off the charts.

Tijuana is what it is. A border town that women come to from all over Mexico to "make money". It does not lend itself to TLN's and GFE, especially for the first time, or occasional, visitor. I am in town about twice a month. I do not get the mesero's hassling me nearly as much as I did in the beginning.

If you want to talk about good sessions, IMO you should not start out at AB, or HK. With both of those generally servicing Gringo's, you are bound to get worse service. They have learned over time that Gringo's will tip, and pay top dollar, without the type of service that is expected in other parts of the world. They know that as soon as they get back down to the bar another Gringo will be there to pay again. I would suggest that men look at Tropical, Las Chavelas, or even the local bars for the "diamond in the rough". I saw a real beauty in Valentina's a few weeks ago, but the local wasn't about to let her go. Some of the women in these places have never been with a Gringo and are used to giving better service. Some even still have wall-to-wall carpeting for those of you who like that. I would rate Chicago Club (after 10PM) above the big two for better sessions. The women in there know that they have to give something better, or the men will not return. While I have never been offered BBBJ, or TLN by the ladies at AB, or HK, I have been at the other locations. A friend that I was with a few weeks ago got a lady out of Tropical to come back to his hotel for $60 for an hour. Later that night he got a TLN for $70 out of Chicago.

My last two sessions out of HK have been less than stellar. All signs were good in the club, slow drinking, NASCAR, kissing, etc, they both were "less than" in la cama. Not real terrible, but definitely not GFE type. It has made me re-think my sessioning during the day.

Anyway, for me, I am glad that Tijuana is close to me. There is no way that I would date women of my age in the states. Getting to bang hot young things, many of whom actually are into it, makes it worth the short trip.

I was feeling under the weather and had no intention of going down to Tijuana on Friday, but my buddy, the master monger, Artisttyp was in town. He kind of twisted my arm to come down, but not much of a twist was needed. Met up with Artisttyp and scored my favorite booth. It wasn't long before some of my favorites came around to say Hi. Then the sweetest woman in HK, Neli, stopped by. It's always a pleasure to spend time with her, in the booth or in the hotel. I was trying to decide to go to the room with either someone naughty or nice (Neli).

Then naughty little Lisa came around the corner. Plopped down and wanted to play. I had a,"Here we go!" moment. And for some damn reason, it seemed every mesero had a damn camera, unlike last week. I could not decide whether I wanted to lick her in one position or another; so we just `tried a few different positions. My doctor has warned me about getting too excited due to my sucky heart, but who in the hell listens to doctors anyway! Anyhow, naughty won!

BTW, I got the scoop on that fucking cheese plate. My insider told me that the meseros have to sell at least one. She told me that sometimes they can't sell it and end up taking it home and bringing it back the next day. Personally, I think the cheese sucks! But, they will fly like a damn frisbee; I know this for a fact!

In the alley entrance of the HK hotel, there is a new feature. There is a security door; go figure. Where you have to press a button, and they will buss you in. I like the hotel, but I have only one complaint of the rooms; there are no damn hooks to hang your clothes on! Jesus Tap Dancing Christ HK, invest in a couple of hooks per room!

Went back in HK after a short trip to Tropical. Tropical was back to playing their regular music, which I like. I became interested in one of the new older girls on the evening shift in HK; her name is Sara. She saw me sitting in a booth and made a beeline over to me. I really wanted to take her up to the room, but I was too busy trying to cough up a lung; so I passed.

I headed back before 10, which was past my bedtime.

if you can't get a bbbj in hk you either don't know how to ask in spanish or you smell really bad. i always ask up front and if they say no, i move on to the next girl.

[quote=patmarbeleza1; 1209836]generally, there are two problems with sex in tijuana. the sex, and the mexicans.

the best sex i ever had in tijuana was with a brasileira, a swimsuit model of some type, julia from hottijuana. net, about 5 years ago. like most brasileiras, she loved sex, fucked because she wanted to get off, and inspired me to go to her native land.

now, at the hong kong club, there are pros and cons compared to the rio termas, like 4x4 or luomo.

hk pros:

- not as expensive travel to rio.

hk cons:

- in a rio terma, once you get into the club, everything is taken care of. you are in a robe, you have your number on a little wrist band. most importantly, you talk to the girls and no waiter interrupts you as soon as you start chatting. most importantly, dfk is allowed, and goes on for minutes, or even an hour. grabbing bunda, seios, making out. depends on the time of day (i like arrriving right after opening, so i am maybe 1 of 5 guys, and there are 15 to 30 girls, so i am really not taking their time from another prospective client). in the hong kong club, a girl will never dfk in the club, and even in the hotel room, she will almost never dfk (my experience has been 1 of 3 dfk a little).

- in a rio terma, the girls are competing with each other on sex. and the sex is at the level of best in the world. dfk is always part of the deal. you can get to know the girl in the boate and have a pretty good idea of how the session will go with the dfk and all the grabbing. spend an hour in 4x4, and 5 girls will grab your package. you get up to the cabine, and most of the girls are completa (anal) , most multiple times. most will do bbbj cim. all will do bbbj. if you're a regular, they will compete by licking your balls and giving it harder. jackie, milked 3 loads out of me in an hour at 4x4, my first time in a rio terma. but in hong kong club, even the hottest girls, the sex is way below those levels. no dfk, maybe a second or two. with 30 minutes, the girl seems rushed. i had a 4x4 girl (suellen) tell me. 40 minutes is just not much time and she was right. with the best hk girl, i had 69 (cbj) , cowgirl, then doggy, getting close to 30 minutes, so i popped. in rio, i would just be warming up. the best hk girl has a nice ass, but there are no bundas in hk that touch the top 20% of the bundas in rio termas like 4x4, luomo.

- the mexican women. if you look around, you can find a brazilian or a dominican girl in tijuana.

- the flies on the dung. that is, the mexican men. nibbled to death by ducks is the experience of hong kong club waiters while talking to the girls in hong kong club. so, on saturday, i go behind this one hot ass girl that i later go upstairs with. i grab her hot little ass (tipping a $1) , and grab her tits (tipping a $) , start kissing her neck, and she is liking it from the way she is moving and then someone is tapping my shoulder and practically shouting in my ear,"you want a drink?" and the answer is no. i want to grab her ass for about 2 minutes more, then go upstairs and f&k. i don't want to talk to a man. i don't want to see a man. i don't want to have a man in 10 meters, better yet 100 meters of me. some people are into group sex, but not me. i just want sex with the hottest woman, or women. not the mexicans. if you are having a good time with a woman, a mexican guy / waiter at hong kong club will come up and spoil the buzz. ok, i get the business model. instead of an entrada, they need to cover the bar expenses on drinks. you know what? bad model. gay model. homosexual, annoying, stupid model. but i understand the model.

- so, you get the girl to come with you upstairs. then there is some guy at the entrance who wants you to tip him a dollar for putting a robe on her. then there is some guy at the hotel front desk who wants you to tip him one dollar for lube (in 4x4, the girls come to the cabine with their little case, and there is always "gel" in there for the completa). then, and this is maybe the most annoying, there are two little cum-towel-heads waiting outside when your paltry 30 minutes is done, also asking for tips. if you say no, you get this hurt little guilt thing, but the main thing is, i just fucked the hottest girl i could find in this little infected armpit of a city, and i want to be left the fuck alone. now in the rio terma, they understand that. they leave you alone, you go back into the boate. you chill for 15 minutes, you start grabbing asses and dfk with other girls again. oh, by the way, in a rio terma, the girls at the front desk are women who check you in. in the changing room, the attendants are old women. at the mini-front-desk for the cabine upstairs, the attendants are women. in the sauna, the attendant is a woman. after you get inside the rio terma, the only men by my count are the bartenders who never hassle you, a security guy, and an announcer. in the hong kong club, there is at least one waiter (mesero) per girl, and every one of them acts like a fly competing for a extra little bite of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113][CodeWord113][/url]; or a vulture circling for an extra little bight of dead flesh; and the carrion that they are feasting upon is the moments of attraction to the very few women in the club who are doable.

when you add it all up, it is not the money. it's how all the jerks asking for the money in little increments nibble you to death by ducks. nadiring nabobs. tell you what, i will pay $25 for entrada if it covers a the room, if no male waiters approach me, and no one asks for extra tips, and just go in and talk to a girl to figure out if she will be a good f*k.

anyway, to satyr's questions:

- you don't get an hour, just 30 minutes at hk.

- no completa. i am working on one girl, if so i will let you know by pm.

- overnight. i have had a rio terma girl tln 4 times, bbfs, best sex of my life, half italian-brazilian. never in tijuana. frankly, i haven't run into one with combination of looks and sex skills that would make me want tln, except for that brasilian girl in tijuana several years ago.

- no bbbj at hong kong.[/quote]

OK, how do you ask for BBBJ in Spanish?

Eu falo um pouco Portugeuese. Eu no falo espanol.

I am running 1 for 3 in BBBJ's from HK girls, maybe I don't know how to ask, and I shower up before.

[QUOTE=Joe Arturo;1209971]If you can't get a BBBJ in HK you either don't know how to ask in Spanish or you smell really bad. I always ask up front and if they say no, I move on to the next girl.[/QUOTE]