American Politics

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3018743]

Did you want president Trump to win the election and did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?

[B]Putin:[/B]

Yes, I did.

Yes, I did.[/QUOTE]Seeing as how you believe every word Putin says.

[URL]https://time.com/4617360/vladimir-putin-russian-involvement-u-s-election/[/URL]

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday dismissed accusations that Russia tried to influence the USA Presidential election as sour grapes from the Democratic Party.

"The party that loses always tries to pass the buck and find the culprits somewhere else. They'the better look at themselves," Putin said at his annual news conference on Friday, according to a translation by NBC News.

So given that Putin always tells the truth and he denied that Russiagate happened, we need to look at who came up with this scheme and jail them.

[I][b]The top 1% of wealth owners in the United States hold a significant and growing share of the nation's total wealth[/b]. As of 2024, this group owned approximately 30.8% of the country's wealth, amounting to about $49.2 trillion. This represents an increase from 22.8% in 1989, highlighting a long-term trend of rising wealth concentration at the very top.*The top 1% includes*households with a net worth of at least $32 million, with the average wealth in this group estimated at $33.4 million in 2023.
Within this top percentile, wealth is further concentrated: the top 0.1%a much smaller group held 13.8% of total U.S. net worth in 2024, meaning they own nearly half of the wealth held by the entire top 1%. The remaining 0.9% of the top percentile held 17% of the nations total wealth.
Over recent decades, gains in wealth have been disproportionately captured by the top 1%. From 1989 to 2022, the share of national wealth held by the top 1% increased from 23% to 27% according to the Congressional Budget Office, with more recent data suggesting it has plateaued near 30%. In contrast, the bottom 50% of households held just 2.6% to 2.8% of total wealth as of 2024, down from 3.5% in 1989.
[b]Top 1% Households[/b]: Approximately 1.3 million families owning about one-third of U.S. wealth, or $49 trillion as of 2024
[b]Top 0.1% Households[/b]: Around 136,000 families who hold nearly half of the top 1%s wealth, accounting for 13.8% of national net worth
Ultra-High-Net-Worth Individuals: Often included in the top 0.1%, these individuals drive much of the wealth growth within the top tier through ownership of corporate stock and financial assets
[b]Millionaires[/b]: While not all millionaires are in the top 1%, the threshold to enter this group is significantly higher than $1 million, typically exceeding $32 million in net worth
[b]Billionaires[/b]: A subset of the top 0.1%, 735 billionaires collectively held $4.5 trillion in 2022, more than the bottom 50% of U.S. households combined - [b]Brave AI[/b][/I]

[I][u]The top 1% of wealth owners in [b]Thailand[/b][/u]
They hold a significant portion of the nation's wealth, with estimates indicating they control approximately 67% of the total wealth. This elite group also accounts for about 21% of the country's annual national income. Wealth concentration in Thailand is notably high, surpassing levels seen in major economies like Russia and India. The top 10% of earners collectively hold 85.7% of the nations wealth, while the bottom half of the population holds just 1.7%. - [b]Brave AI[/b][/I]

[I][u]The top 1% of wealth holders in the [b]Dominican Republic[/b][/u]
They hold a significant and disproportionate share of the nation's income, reflecting a high level of economic inequality. In 2022, the top 1% of earners received 30.5% of the gross national income, a figure that exceeds that of Mexico, Chile, and Brazil by 2 to 5 percentage points.
This concentration of wealth is part of a broader pattern where the top 10% of the population receives more than half of the national income, specifically 55% according to a 2023 report, while the bottom 10% receive less than 1%. - [b]Brave AI[/b][/I]

The 2022 data also shows that the richest 20% of the population held 44% of the income, a decrease from previous years but still indicating substantial concentration.

[QUOTE]And please SubCmdr, by the standards of most in the world, you ARE rich. Hell, in Thailand and the Dominican Republic, you're super rich.[/QUOTE]The name of this thread is [B]American Politics[/B]. All are welcome to review the information I have provided above. Then when any of you are ready to have a serious discussion, instead of off the cuff opinions, back them up with some facts please.

[B]Tax wealth not work![/B]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3019083]It looks we have a new admin. Gee, I wonder what his political leanings are. That is a Scooby Doo mystery for sure.

And yes, Spidy, that is your cue to come in and do you another one of your specialties, admin ass kissing.

Or better yet, I will just imitate you. "I do not see what your problem is Elvis. I think the admins do a great job here, and they are paid nothing. ".

The problem is I know what I wrote and it was about politics not someone else's dick.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5abU03jPWU[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0Ljd7mcbMQ[/URL]

Please opine!!

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/08/06/trump-and-apple-ceo-tim-cook-announce-600-billion-total-investment-in-america/[/URL]

LONG LIVE MAGA!!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3019086]Seeing as how you believe every word Putin says.

[URL]https://time.com/4617360/vladimir-putin-russian-involvement-u-s-election/[/URL]

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday dismissed accusations that Russia tried to influence the USA Presidential election as sour grapes from the Democratic Party.

"The party that loses always tries to pass the buck and find the culprits somewhere else. They'the better look at themselves," Putin said at his annual news conference on Friday, according to a translation by NBC News.

So given that Putin always tells the truth and he denied that Russiagate happened, we need to look at who came up with this scheme and jail them.[/QUOTE]I read those quotes in links like that when Putin originally said them back in 2016.

Not one word of it is a denial, contradiction of what he said in Helsinki or what the CIA, the Dems and the Repubs in their own investigations have been saying about it from the beginning.

Not. One. Word.

Please pass this link along to Matt, too. Assuming he can read and comprehend basic English, it should go a long way to refuting his numbskull pitch for other numbskulls after all these years.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3019093][I][b]The top 1% of wealth owners in the United States hold a significant and growing share of the nation's total wealth[/b]. As of 2024, this group owned approximately 30.8% of the country's wealth, amounting to about $49.2 trillion. This represents an increase from 22.8% in 1989, highlighting a long-term trend of rising wealth concentration at the very top.*The top 1% includes*households with a net worth of at least $32 million, with the average wealth in this group estimated at $33.4 million in 2023.
Within this top percentile, wealth is further concentrated: the top 0.1%a much smaller group held 13.8% of total U.S. net worth in 2024, meaning they own nearly half of the wealth held by the entire top 1%. The remaining 0.9% of the top percentile held 17% of the nations total wealth.
Over recent decades, gains in wealth have been disproportionately captured by the top 1%. From 1989 to 2022, the share of national wealth held by the top 1% increased from 23% to 27% according to the Congressional Budget Office, with more recent data suggesting it has plateaued near 30%. In contrast, the bottom 50% of households held just 2.6% to 2.8% of total wealth as of 2024, down from 3.5% in 1989.
[b]Top 1% Households[/b]: Approximately 1.3 million families owning about one-third of U.S. wealth, or $49 trillion as of 2024
[b]Top 0.1% Households[/b]: Around 136,000 families who hold nearly half of the top 1%s wealth, accounting for 13.8% of national net worth
Ultra-High-Net-Worth Individuals: Often included in the top 0.1%, these individuals drive much of the wealth growth within the top tier through ownership of corporate stock and financial assets
[b]Millionaires[/b]: While not all millionaires are in the top 1%, the threshold to enter this group is significantly higher than $1 million, typically exceeding $32 million in net worth
[b]Billionaires[/b]: A subset of the top 0.1%, 735 billionaires collectively held $4.5 trillion in 2022, more than the bottom 50% of U.S. households combined - [b]Brave AI[/b][/I]

[I][u]The top 1% of wealth owners in [b]Thailand[/b][/u]
They hold a significant portion of the nation's wealth, with estimates indicating they control approximately 67% of the total wealth. This elite group also accounts for about 21% of the country's annual national income. Wealth concentration in Thailand is notably high, surpassing levels seen in major economies like Russia and India. The top 10% of earners collectively hold 85.7% of the nations wealth, while the bottom half of the population holds just 1.7%. - [b]Brave AI[/b][/I]

[I][u]The top 1% of wealth holders in the [b]Dominican Republic[/b][/u]
They hold a significant and disproportionate share of the nation's income, reflecting a high level of economic inequality. In 2022, the top 1% of earners received 30.5% of the gross national income, a figure that exceeds that of Mexico, Chile, and Brazil by 2 to 5 percentage points.
This concentration of wealth is part of a broader pattern where the top 10% of the population receives more than half of the national income, specifically 55% according to a 2023 report, while the bottom 10% receive less than 1%. - [b]Brave AI[/b][/I]

The 2022 data also shows that the richest 20% of the population held 44% of the income, a decrease from previous years but still indicating substantial concentration.

The name of this thread is [B]American Politics[/B]. All are welcome to review the information I have provided above. Then when any of you are ready to have a serious discussion, instead of off the cuff opinions, back them up with some facts please.

[B]Tax wealth not work![/B][/QUOTE]I figure you're worth at least $1 million, and that's probably an insult because it's probably a lot higher. According to ChatGPT, a person with $1 million is in the top 0. 12% of adults in Thailand and 0. 14% in the Dominican Republic. I bet you're in the top 0. 05%. There you go, you're super rich. And presumably the Thais and Dominicanos are smart enough not to tax your wealth away. Unlike Bernie Sanders who wants to tax the billionaire class 8% of their net worth every year. Do that and see how many more world beating businesses like Microsoft, Google and Walmart the USA produces. The billionaire class pays a lot more tax than its fair share. You and I are freeloaders compared to them. They're the job creators. I'd damn sure leave if I were one of them and had to pay a Sanders wealth tax.

[QUOTE=Allover;3018176]I'm not in Thailand you dumb motherfucker. [b]I'm having sex with girls that wouldn't appeal to you because you are such a cheapass bit*ch.[/b] I swear I didn't mean to pee on your face. But I did.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UglyAzzMan;3014074]I heard SUB violated Parole and has to serve out the rest of his sentence. 22 years. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;3012164]I've come to the conclusion that a night out for Stubby is alternating between joining 4 or 5 south central Asian bros in propositioning Pattaya Beach Road lovlies so he can get off for 1/5 the 1000 baht service fee. For those interested in really knowing how Studdy rolls. I particularly found Stubby's deluxe ocean front blanket accommodations interesting. .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Paolo99;3007214]They don't have a poverty mindset of saving bucks like the cheap ass subcmdr.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Paolo99;3007444]The quality of the prostitutes you hire in Bkk is pure trash out of a garbbage bin dumb motherfuck. Lolita's is supposed to be filled with quality staff? Exactly the same case than when you're in Pattaya, [b]you go to the bottom of the barrel because you can't afford any better[/b]. Sub is rolling like an asshole motherfuck with his 10 twenty baht notes. LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Paolo99;3007217]I'm really not surprised a cheapos like yourself is satisfied fishing in this kind of pond.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UglyAzzMan;3007181]1,000 baht girls are Bottom of the ugly barrel. Why does he deny it. [b]I think he Broke[/b].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Paolo99;3007044]Mother fuck everybody knows the look of the girls you fuck and [b]everybody knows the reason you go in these shitholes is because of your lack of bucks.[/b][/QUOTE]You know I am posted up in Thailand currently. Several other ISG members that post in the Thailand Forum would be surprised at your assessment of my wealth.

In Thailand, I do not OWN any assets nor have any wealth. The only thing I own there are my personal possessions and a EV Motor Scooter. My current fixed expenses are about 2. 5 times the monthly minimum wage of a Thai Worker. So, if I am a millionaire, it certainly doesn't feel like it.

[QUOTE]FUCK that isnt true. When I first got here I had some money laying around so I bought some rooms. I rent them to Thai people.[/QUOTE]I supposed the King does not tax me because he is happy I am spending the money I do in his kingdom and I am providing housing. Seems like that is enough for him.

Whereas the mother fucking USAGOV taxes me on my worldwide income even though I present ZERO tax burden to my country of origin. Nothing is ever enough for the Republican mother fuckers who want to put every immigrant out of the country and send all people of color person in the US back to the plantation (the new term is [I]working on the farm[/I]). The assets that I own in the US cannot be moved. That is why I pay a wealth tax on them. It is called property tax. The same concept can be set up for all assets.

BTW, [B]if you wanted a truly fair income tax system it would be a flat tax: 20%. On ALL NET income. No exceptions[/B]. You make a 10,000 you pay 2000, you make 100,000 you pay 20,000. You make 1,000,000 you pay 200,000. In my opinion that is fair.

[B]Rich and Super Rich[/B] people don't have their assets in a suitcase that they just grab and get on a plane when the government wants to tax them. That is why they spend so much money influencing tax policy in their countries. They have convinced people that they should not be taxed on their wealth. But this is incorrect. If the current wealth transfer continues to be allowed, the passive income earned from the [B]Rich and Super Rich[/B] will allow them to continue to purchase the assets of the middle class and drain their wealth over time. That will lead to decreased living standards and increase in people living in abject policy like this [I]poor black man[/I] who is just trying to make in a white world.

[B]Tax wealth not work![/B]

There is apparently no limit to the amount of treason Trump and his Administration will commit on behalf of Russia Russia Russia as eternal thanks for Putin's proven meddling and interference into the election to help Trump win so he can do everything in his power to fuck up the USA Economy and National Security in his mission to con and fleece MAGA suckers out of their money:

[B]Tulsi Gabbard declassified documents over CIA objections, sources say.
Aug. 7, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/tulsi-gabbard-declassified-documents-over-003144840.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]National Intelligence Director Tulsi Gabbard decided to declassify a document on Russias interference in the 2016 election last month over the objections of CIA officials who argued that more details should remain secret to protect sensitive spying sources and methods, according to two sources with knowledge of the matter.
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Some former intelligence officers said they were alarmed at the detail revealed in the declassified document.
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The declassified version of the report included relatively few redactions, and it included references to eavesdropping and an established clandestine human source with insights into Russian President Vladimir Putins view of the U.S. presidential contest.

Michael Van Landingham, a former CIA analyst who helped write the 2017 intelligence community assessment, said he was taken aback at the detail exposed in the declassified document.
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"I was shocked to see the declassification detailing the dates the US IC, intelligence community, gathered material, naming specific Russian actors, and quoting at length from both raw and serialized intelligence reports of Russian leadership discussions, he told NBC News. [B]This sort of information would allow for Russian authorities to easily find potential sources of the leaks, which would complicate the job of the US IC keeping America safe.[/b]

Van Landingham said that when he was working as an analyst examining the same material about Russias election meddling in 2016, he was subject to a polygraph test and was allowed to read the information in hard copy only after he signed his name to request it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3019112]Not one word of it is a denial, contradiction of what he said in Helsinki or what the CIA, the Dems and the Repubs in their own investigations have been saying about it from the beginning.

Not. One. Word.[/QUOTE]The fallacy of presupposition demonstrated perfectly. Did Putin say that he rigged the election? No, but he did not deny it. So Putin rigged the election. Did Putin say that he rigged the election? If he says yes, so it must have happened.

And if Putin flat out denies that he rigged the election, and he has, "Well, Putin is a known liar. "

So no matter how he answers the question, Putin must have rigged the election.

This is the mindset of a Democratic.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3019086]Seeing as how you believe every word Putin says.

[URL]https://time.com/4617360/vladimir-putin-russian-involvement-u-s-election/[/URL]

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday dismissed accusations that Russia tried to influence the USA Presidential election as sour grapes from the Democratic Party.

"The party that loses always tries to pass the buck and find the culprits somewhere else. They'the better look at themselves," Putin said at his annual news conference on Friday, according to a translation by NBC News.

So given that Putin always tells the truth and he denied that Russiagate happened, we need to look at who came up with this scheme and jail them.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2025/08/07/trump-wants-to-exclude-illegal-migrants-from-next-census/[/URL]

There might not be any more sanctuary cities. ROTFLMMFAO.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;3018660]And who is against hydroelectric power? If only Nepal were different in some way than other countries. So yeah, that makes sense, built hydroelectric plants, and buy cars from China that is willing willing to sell vehicles for less than what it costs them to make.

But this anecdote is meaningless when you look at Europe and the USA with a domestic car industry and cannot provide all their power via hydroelectricity. Nice try though![/QUOTE]Yeah, because the NYT, writes about meaningless stories, all the time...right!

Meaningless...hardly! If you take a deeper dive and think past your right-wing cynicism, when it comes to the world's countries transitioning to electrostates, you'll find that, Nepal serves as GREAT example, in the move from fossil fuel dependency, [i][b]to energy security, energy independence[/b][/i] and [i][b]geo-eco-political stability,[/b][/i] with a strong conviction to their crisis driven administrative policies.

Just take other [u]countries with a heavy hydro energy mix, like Brazil (83% hydro) and Canada (60%),[/u] both have less than 5% and 3.4% EV penetration, respectively. Perhaps because they lack a
conviction like a "Nepal's crisis driven" type emergency? ...where India's 2015 fuel blockade and embargo, caused months of fuel shortages, exposing Nepal's vulnerability to fossil fuel imports.

[b]First, [/b]Nepal's success is a blueprint, for the larger The Global South's emancipation from the yoke of petrostates. And...

[b]Second point being,[/b] why wait until the old-guard "petrostate regimes" and dumbass "Trump TACO Tariffs", hold your country (or energy security) hostage, over the whims of MAGA "jacked-up tariff" despots, dictators and autocrats.

The Global South (one country at a time), is figuring out, the freedoms and advantages of an electrostate.

I suppose we should have been happy that most Repubs in the federal government only constantly voted to Defund The Police.

Now the most iconic Classic Repub of all time, Donald J. Trump, has rewarded a member of his violent, cop-killing mob of America-hating Insurrectionists with a pardon and a position in his Justce Department as his reward for calling for that mob to kill more cops:

[B]He told Jan 6 rioters to kill cops. After Trumps pardon, he got hired at the Justice Department.
Administration officials call Jared Wise a valued member at the nations top law enforcement agency after avoiding trial on riot charges.
Aug. 7, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jared-wise-jan-6-justice-department-b2803755.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]Jared Lane Wise was scheduled to go to trial 10 days before Donald Trump returned to the White House.

Wise admitted to urging rioters to kill law enforcement at the Capitol on January 6, 2021 and faced six counts in connection with the riots.
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Wise was pardoned by the president on his first day in office, along with nearly every rioter charged in connection with the assault.

[B]Now, he is working as a senior adviser in the Department of Justice[/b], NPR has learned.

"Jared Wise is a valued member of the Department of Justice and we appreciate his contributions to our team, according to a DOJ statement shared with The Independent by the White House.

According to surveillance footage shared in court documents, Wise joined a mob that broke into the Capitol, and clapped his hands and raised his arms in triumph as he walked into the Senate wing. Two hours later, he clashed with police officers outside the building.
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As a group of rioters pushed against police and knocked at least one officer to the ground, [b]Wise turned towards the violence and shouted f*** them and kill em, according to court filings.

Kill em! Kill em! Kill em! he shouted.[/b][/QUOTE]Luckily, Trump's violent, cop-killing mob of America-hating Insurrectionists did not manage to kill as many cops as they clearly wanted to kill and that they are seen on video even more clearly trying very, very hard to kill, thanks only to the fact that the cops were wearing enough body armor and helmets to prevent their Repub intended killers from doing so.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;3019114]I figure you're worth at least $1 million, and that's probably an insult because it's probably a lot higher. According to ChatGPT, a person with $1 million is in the top 0. 12% of adults in Thailand and 0. 14% in the Dominican Republic. I bet you're in the top 0. 05%. There you go, you're super rich. And presumably the Thais and Dominicanos are smart enough not to tax your wealth away. Unlike Bernie Sanders who wants to tax the billionaire class 8% of their net worth every year. Do that and see how many more world beating businesses like Microsoft, Google and Walmart the USA produces. The billionaire class pays a lot more tax than its fair share. You and I are freeloaders compared to them. They're the job creators. I'd damn sure leave if I were one of them and had to pay a Sanders wealth tax.[/QUOTE]I'm sure glad Americans are wise enough to reject you and Chase the Guns ridiculous vile policies!!

He rec'd 0. 4 fucking % I'm guessing he was overachieving at that lololol.

BTW I heard there's a special room in HELL for ALL Libertarians.

I hope you like the heat.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3019228]The fallacy of presupposition demonstrated perfectly. Did Putin say that he rigged the election? No, but he did not deny it. So Putin rigged the election. Did Putin say that he rigged the election? If he says yes, so it must have happened.

And if Putin flat out denies that he rigged the election, and he has, "Well, Putin is a known liar. "

So no matter how he answers the question, Putin must have rigged the election.

This is the mindset of a Democratic.[/QUOTE]Yes because they are so stoopid and delusional they even refuse to accept that the American electorate preferred Our Lord and Savior 3 fucking elections in a row.

Over their Scumbag nominees.

Self awareness and integrity are anathematic to everything they say and do, just look around here.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3019228]The fallacy of presupposition demonstrated perfectly. Did Putin say that he rigged the election? No, but he did not deny it. So Putin rigged the election. Did Putin say that he rigged the election? If he says yes, so it must have happened.

And if Putin flat out denies that he rigged the election, and he has, "Well, Putin is a known liar. "

So no matter how he answers the question, Putin must have rigged the election.

This is the mindset of a Democratic.[/QUOTE]LOL. You thought some dummies would read your set up and spin on that link, read the link and then stupidly conclude Putin denied he wanted Trump to win the election and denied that he directed officials to help make that happen, didn't you?

But your little plan failed.

'Fess up; when YOU first read the report in that link, YOU were one of those dummies, right?

Lolol.