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[QUOTE=EihTooms;3018733]Trump's stupidity and the greater stupidity of his Repub MAGA Cult Followers knows no bounds! LOL.

Trump keeps lying about how that evil BLS Commisioner put out a glowing jobs creation report "just days before the election" and then revised it down by "900,000 or a million jobs" after the election, thereby showing unmistakable bias for Biden-Harris and "rigging" it against that poor, poor multi-millionaire-born Trust Fund Baby Trump who has been carried like so much limp baggage from one advantage to another since birth all the while whining, crying and whimpering like a little girl about how everything is "rigged" against him.

We already know the downward revision that Trump was probably referring to and lying about, by 818,000 jobs, was reported in August 2024, months before the election, not after the election, and in plenty of time to help Trump and harm Harris in the November 5th election, not the other way around.

But more about that BLS report that Trump lied about being so glowing and helpful to Harris "just days before the election".

Uh.

The Real World timeline. Please note the date:

[B]U.S. economy added just 12,000 jobs in October, impacted by hurricanes, Boeing strike.
November 1, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/01/us-jobs-report-october-2024.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

Oh, to be sure, there WAS a BLS revision to that month's numbers after the election.

Again, please note the date;.

[B]January 2025 Jobs Report.[/B]

[URL]https://www.staffingindustry.com/research/research-reports/americas/january-2025-jobs-report[/URL]

The so-called president of the United States of America just fired a BLS Commisioner based on his provable lie and on his unfounded "opinion" that the numbers were "rigged" to make him look bad.

Of all the utterly chaotic incoherent shit-storms that Trump and his MAGAs have plunged America and the rest of the World into, this particular firing of that woman for that made-up reason based on an obvious and provable lie might well turn out to produce the most lingering damage.

Nobody on the planet has any reason to believe any "good" economic numbers coming out of this administration or any other agency as long as Trump is in control. If there is another revision that shows "good" numbers for July, no one will believe it nor should anyone believe it nor should anyone move forward on an economic plan or business based on any "good" numbers that are reported by this administration.

That line has been crossed and we can never go back until Trump and everyone in his administration are gone and forgotten.[/QUOTE]Opinion.

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Trump's Trade Representative: Why We Remade the Global Order.

Aug. 7, 2025.

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By Jamieson Greer.

Ambassador Greer is the USA Trade representative.

It must be an unwritten rule that international economic orders emerge at stately hotels. In 1944, as World War II raged, Allied representatives gathered at a picturesque New Hampshire resort named Bretton Woods to discuss how to establish a postwar economic order to restore the sensible flow of trade in a fractured world.

Although the resulting Bretton Woods system ended in 1976, its legacy lives on. Our current, nameless global order, which is dominated by the World Trade Organization and is notionally designed to pursue economic efficiency and regulate the trade policies of its 166 member countries, is untenable and unsustainable. The United States has paid for the system with the loss of industrial jobs and economic security, other countries have been unable to make needed reforms, and the biggest winner has been China, with its state-owned enterprises and five-year plans. Unsurprisingly, the past decade has seen significant international and bipartisan American frustration at the system's failure to adapt to meet the essential interests of sovereign nations.

Now, reform is at hand. Last week at his Turnberry resort on the Scottish coast, President Trump and the European Commission president, Ursula von der Leyen, concluded a historic agreement — one that is fair, balanced and oriented toward serving concrete national interests rather than vague aspirations of multilateral institutions. Indeed, by using a mix of tariffs and deals for foreign market access and investment, the United States has laid the foundation for a new global trading order.

The previous system rejected tariffs as a legitimate tool of public policy, meaning that the United States sacrificed tariff protection for critical manufacturing and other sectors. Over the past three decades, the United States slashed barriers to our market to allow vast inflows of foreign goods, services, labor and capital. At the same time, other countries kept their markets closed to our goods and deployed a suite of policies — such as subsidies, wage suppression, lax labor and environmental standards, regulatory distortions and currency manipulation — to artificially boost exports to the United States. This approach made the United States and a handful of other economies the consumers of last resort for countries pursuing beggar-thy-neighbor economic policies.

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Our trading partners were adept at this game, and elites on Wall Street and in Washington were all too happy to cash in on the global arbitrage by moving production abroad. The net result? The bulk of global manufacturing shifted to jurisdictions such as China, Vietnam and Mexico where companies could exploit vulnerable workers or benefit from expansive state support while the United States ran up what in absolute terms is the highest trade deficit in the history of the world. This led to extensive and well-documented losses in USA Industrial capacity and employment as well as reliance on our adversaries for critical supply chains.

We subordinated our country's economic and national security imperatives to a lowest common denominator of global consensus. This approach harmed American workers, their families and communities by undermining a manufacturing sector that creates high-wage jobs, fosters innovation and catalyzes investment across the economy.

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What began at Bretton Woods as a necessary effort to rebuild a global trade system shattered by war evolved, over nine rounds of trade negotiations, into something unrecognizable. The measured guidelines for commerce developed in the Kennedy and Tokyo Rounds gave way to our recent experiment in global hyper-integration, embodied in the Uruguay Round, which concluded in 1994 and established the W. T. O.

We are now witnessing the Trump Round. On April 2, President Trump announced tariffs to address the national emergency posed by the trade deficit. The intense bilateral negotiations that followed were held in diverse locations across the world: Washington, Geneva, Jeju Island, Paris, London, Stockholm and, of course, Turnberry. Our trading partners had never before shown such interest in opening their markets to the United States, aligning on matters of economic and national security, and rebalancing trade in a more sustainable direction. In a few short months, the United States secured more foreign market access than it had in years of fruitless W. T. O negotiations.

Reversing decades of harmful policy that weakened our manufacturing capacity and work force will take time and coordinated effort across the public and private sectors. But keeping the status quo would only accelerate the dangerous trajectory of deindustrialization. We require a generational project to re-industrialize America, and time is short.

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When I joined a critical mass of my fellow trade ministers in June at a meeting of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development in Paris, I was struck by how many voiced serious concerns about the danger of macroeconomic imbalances, the threat of nonmarket practices and the sclerotic state of the global trading system — the same issues President Trump has raised for years and now taken emergency action to address. What was long dismissed as heresy by the free-trade fundamentalists in Brussels, Geneva and Washington is now becoming conventional wisdom.

In announcing the USA -European Union deal last week, President von der Leyen echoed the call to refashion global trade to adapt to economic and political realities. She explained to reporters that the trans-Atlantic economic relationship needed "rebalancing" to ensure that it could be "more sustainable. " Such recognition is reinforced by additional deals with Britain, Cambodia, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippines, South Korea, Thailand and Vietnam, which make up almost 40 percent of USA Trade, according to my office's figures. Other countries with large trade surpluses with the United States are subject to generally higher tariffs. The new economic order, solidified at Turnberry, is emerging in real time.

The results are astounding. Every year for 40 years, the Office of the USA Trade Representative has produced a detailed report called the National Trade Estimate chronicling various barriers faced by USA Companies, including high tariffs, requirements to produce goods in the countries where the companies want to do business, and restrictions on agricultural products contrary to scientific consensus. In the past, the only significant way the United States could remove these barriers (if at all) was by giving away the tariffs defending our manufacturing sector. President Trump has flipped the script on this: Now, we are systematically eliminating these barriers abroad while ensuring sufficient tariff protection at home.

Indonesia is lowering 99.3 percent of its tariffs on imports from the United States and eliminating a slew of longstanding non-tariff barriers, while accepting a 19 percent tariff on exports to the United States. South Korea is accepting USA Auto standards along with a 15 percent tariff. Vietnam pledged to lower all of its tariffs and barriers in exchange for a 20 percent rate. Most countries we are negotiating with have also agreed to cooperate on economic security to ensure the safety and reliability of our critical supply chains.

Countries are also committing to upgrade and better enforce their labor standards, tackling arbitrages that have put American workers and producers at a disadvantage. Multiple countries will join the United States (along with the E. You. , Mexico and Canada) in banning the importation of goods made with forced labor. Eliminating global slavery was a longstanding goal of advocates and policymakers, but it was the leverage of President Trump's tariffs that finally made it possible to unlock meaningful progress.

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Similarly, countries are agreeing to improve resource efficiency and enforcement of environmental laws, including in the most problematic sectors, such as illegal logging, illegal fishing and the illegal wildlife trade. The international trade system should not force Americans to compete with those who use our responsible capitalism against us as a competitive advantage.

Importantly, these commitments are actionable, and the United States will enforce them. Rather than the drawn-out dispute settlement process favored by the old guard of trade bureaucrats, the new USA Approach is to closely monitor implementation of the deals and swiftly reimpose a higher tariff rate for noncompliance if needed. President Trump uniquely recognizes that the privilege of selling into the world's most lucrative consumer market is a mighty carrot. And a tariff is a formidable stick.

At the World Trade Organization, enacting changes to trade rules requires total consensus among nations. In fact, the last attempt at serious reform, known as the Doha Round, failed because protectionist nations refused to take down their trade barriers to the United States. Moreover, our adversaries relish blocking reform. They prefer a status quo that feeds an exploding USA Trade deficit, sapping this nation of the industrial might that made it, and keeps it, a superpower.

But the rules of international trade cannot be a suicide pact. By imposing tariffs to rebalance the trade deficit and negotiating significant reforms that form the basis of a new international system, the United States has shown bold leadership to address what policymakers long considered intractable problems.

Many of these deals also come with significant investment commitments into USA Productive capacity, such as $600 billion in the case of the European Union and $350 billion by South Korea. These investments — 10 times larger than the inflation-adjusted value of the Marshall Plan that rebuilt Europe after World War II — will accelerate USA Reindustrialization. South Korea will help reinvigorate the American shipbuilding industry, which has atrophied in the face of nonmarket competition. These types of investments are on top of purchase commitments that cumulatively account for almost $1 trillion of American energy, agriculture, defense and industrial products. This demand for American goods and ready access to capital will allow American manufacturing to reassert leadership across strategic sectors where we have fallen behind.

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Skeptics point out that tariffs, although once a fixture of American economic policy, have not been used this extensively for generations. But we now have data showing that the failure to use tariffs or similar protections created an economy that was heavy on finance and consulting fees and low on the lasting wealth and security that come from making things. Even among those who agree with that diagnosis, some say the president's remedy is too strong or was administered too hastily, or that the tariffs will be too disruptive in the short term. This is not the time to debate how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. This is an emergency. We know what the problem is and we know how to address it. There is no time to waste.

President Trump has already shown that he can implement tariffs and other economic tools to reshape supply chains and reinvigorate manufacturing. When he deployed sweeping tariffs in his first term, not only did the sky not fall as pundits predicted, but inflation actually went down. And now that he is imposing tariffs even more broadly, inflation remains in check. A long-term problem won't be fixed overnight, and the process may not always be smooth, but the situation demands strong and resolute action to strengthen the USA Industrial base.

It took over 50 years from that first meeting at Bretton Woods until the creation of the W. T. O. It has been 30 years since. Fewer than 130 days from the beginning of the Trump Round, the Turnberry system is by no means complete, but its construction is well underway.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;3019076]Actually those are good posts, applicable equally to Democrats and Republicans. Perhaps people could agree to use a nonpartisan algorithm to determine boundaries of Congressional districts. That would make sense IMHO.

[B]My one point of difference with you would be the Senate. Maybe I'm biased, having spent the majority of my life in areas populated by rattlesnakes and tumble weeds. The Senate will have to stay as it is, because an amendment to the constitution that would apportion representation based on population will never pass muster. Please note that the structure of the Senate (two Senators per state) was a foundational step in the creation of the United States of America. Without it, the smaller states wouldn't have signed up.[/b]

I'm happy letting you have your way however if states that aren't happy with the change can secede. Imagine that! An oil and gas and agricultural superpower stretching from Calgary to Key West! While your proposal would disadvantage Texas, the Great State would undoubtedly join the others in leaving. And undoubtedly even more business and hard workers would flee California for the Lone Star State and shake off the shackles of Sacramento and Washington, D. C. ![/QUOTE]Ok, let's stipulate that was a useful idea back then. But this is now.

By now every state in the union except a couple has had the same 100-250 years to get its shit together enough to make a case for why it deserves even 1 Senate seat rather than to share 1 with a neighboring desolate state, much less 2 and even more less as many as real states where American citizen human beings actually want to live.

And many of those Red States on the Eastern half of the USA have had longer to get their shit together on that point than Blue States on the Western half.

Time's up! Please replace the cap on your pen, turn over your test paper and pass it forward!

If by now those states are still so much vast wasteland, cactus, rattlesnakes and tumbleweeds that the number of people who want to live there doesn't even exceed the number of people living within 4 square blocks of my Southern California rental property then obviously they and whoever the fuck it is they elect to run the place doesn't deserve more than a fraction of one Senate seat while the Great State of California deserves at least 10.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3019165]Whereas the mother fucking USAGOV taxes me on my worldwide income even though I present ZERO tax burden to my country of origin. Nothing is ever enough for the Republican mother fuckers who want to put every immigrant out of the country and send all people of color person in the US back to the plantation (the new term is [I]working on the farm[/I]). [/QUOTE]

The Democrats want to continue taxing your worldwide income. The two politicians leading the charge to STOP the USAGOV from taxing YOUR worldwide income are DONALD J. TRUMP, and REPUBLICAN Darin LaHood.

https://www.taxesforexpats.com/articles/news/trumps-promise-toREPU-end-double-taxation-for-americans-abroad.html


[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3019165]The assets that I own in the US cannot be moved. That is why I pay a wealth tax on them. It is called property tax. The same concept can be set up for all assets.[/QUOTE]

No it cannot. Texas Contrarian, who posts on another hooker board and who knows far more about finance and economics than anybody here, points out that if a wealth tax were implemented, there would be a flow of investment out of financial assets, which can be easily valued, and into private equity. Private equity investments can be massively undervalued, and multimillionaires and billionaires would use them to avoid paying the tax. This is not an ideal use of capital IMO. Companies taken over by private equity tend to borrow out the gazoo and many end up bankrupt.

I was the executor of an estate that owed no estate tax, because the net worth of the deceased was below the cutoff, but had to file IRS Form 706. To prepare the form you have to estimate reasonable values, using appraisers when necessary, for all the assets in the estate. The exercise is exactly what people would have to perform if there were a wealth tax. We were subsequently audited by the IRS.

I never want to and will not go through that again. If I had to pay an annual wealth tax, I'd renounce citizenship and leave the USA for good and for sure. The amount of the tax wouldn't matter as much as the compliance. We've each only got so much time left on this earth, and I'm not going to spend every waking hour doing paperwork for the IRS. And you have to do the paperwork. The mother fuckers in Washington have passed laws that can bankrupt you or send you to jail if you fuck up the paperwork.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3019165]BTW, [B]if you wanted a truly fair income tax system it would be a flat tax: 20%. On ALL NET income. No exceptions[/B]. You make a 10,000 you pay 2000, you make 100,000 you pay 20,000. You make 1,000,000 you pay 200,000. In my opinion that is fair.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Texas Contrarian pointed out that the largest tax increase on the wealthy was overseen by Ronald Reagan and Democrat Tip O'Neill. The Tax Reform Act of 1986 dropped the top rate to a flat 28%, and eliminated many loopholes. Before Reagan, when maximum rates ranged from 70% to 94%, the rich jumped through hoops to avoid paying tax. They invested in oil wells, race horses, feedlots -- all kinds of tax loopholes. Practically no one paid anywhere close to 90%. When the rate became 28%, the rich ended up actually paying more tax. And they allocated capital a lot more efficiently. After the rate was lowered and the loopholes closed, investing in semiconductors became more attractive than investing in racehorses.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3019165][B]Rich and Super Rich[/B] people don't have their assets in a suitcase that they just grab and get on a plane when the government wants to tax them. That is why they spend so much money influencing tax policy in their countries. They have convinced people that they should not be taxed on their wealth. But this is incorrect. If the current wealth transfer continues to be allowed, the passive income earned from the [B]Rich and Super Rich[/B] will allow them to continue to purchase the assets of the middle class and drain their wealth over time. That will lead to decreased living standards and increase in people living in abject policy like this [I]poor black man[/I] who is just trying to make in a white world.

[B]Tax wealth not work![/B][/QUOTE]

So what's that wealth used for? The income-producing assets of the rich and the super rich, as well as everyone who has a pension or 401K or mutual fund? The wealth is invested in businesses. Parked in banks and used to fund commercial, auto and home loans. Used to buy Treasury Bills so our government doesn't become like Venezuela's. The wealth produces jobs and performs other functions important to America and all Americans.

HOWEVER, it might make sense to impose the 8% annual wealth tax proposed by Bernie Sanders on all Americans' holdings of cryptocurrencies, gold and collectibles. They're not used in a significant way to create jobs, grow the economy or fund government. They just sit around and gather dust, or whatever the cyber equivalent of dust is for crypto. While crypto may perform an important and honorable function in places like Venezuela, in the USA it’s sometimes used to launder money and the like. If you believe in big government like most Democrats, then why would you want crypto to even exist? Most Democrats think crypto is a libertarian plot to deprive the Treasury of revenues and enable criminal behavior. Look at all the press they give to the Trump family’s crypto businesses.

And PLEASE, "this [I]poor black man[/I] who is just trying to make in a white world." You're living the dream, in Thailand. Many people would give their left nuts to lead your life.

[B]Tax crypto not capital![/B]

[QUOTE]If you don't want those things to click-clack
Take a few steps back because I'm playin fo' keeps
Go ahead keep playin with me and watch how I hit 'em in the head once again
For those who didn't believe in the kid y'all might as well be dead
[b]Because what y'all thought couldn't be done, I did[/b]. - Pitbull[/QUOTE][U][b]Tax Wealth not Work![/b][/U]

[QUOTE=Tiny12;3019306]So what's that wealth used for?[/QUOTE]Yes, it is used to fund the [I]government/corporate wage slave plantation system[/I] in the Dis-United States of America. Example provided below:

[QUOTE=Tiny12;3019306]The income-producing assets of the rich and the super rich, as well as everyone who has a pension or 401K or mutual fund? The wealth is invested in businesses. Parked in banks and used to fund commercial, auto and home loans. Used to buy Treasury Bills so our government doesn't become like Venezuela's. The wealth produces jobs and performs other functions important to America and all Americans.[/QUOTE]In other words it is used to by the [B]Rich and Super Rich[/B] to own everything. [B]Tiny[/B] why did not not address my facts on wealth inequality in the United States of America. Is it because you cannot deny the picture that those facts developed. You pivoted and tried to do the [I]banana in the tailpipe[/I] trick a distraction by pointing out Thailand and the Dominican Republic. The topic of the thread is [B]American Politics[/B]. I no longer live in the United States of America. But what if I did. How would I be doing there? Not so good after all.

Why did you ignore my point that those same companies are now using AI to reduce headcount of employees while improving productivity. Investment and application of AI is just getting started. It's very unbecoming to call yourself debating with me when you just bury your head in the sand about the massive changes coming down the line.

BTW, Crypto is money in the new digital era. It is the first money that moves at the same speed that AI does. The speed of light. For an educated and intelligent person you really have zero clue about crypto. Have your ever heard of the term: Stable coin. They are currently being used for instant and cross boarder payments. VISA has integrated them already. Many others of the corporate plantation class are also talking about moving forward with applications that use Stablecoins.

[U]What is a Stable coin[/U]

A stable coins is a crypto back by a hard asset that does not change in value. The two largest stable coins at this time are USDC and USDT. What do you think they are back with? US Treasuries. [U]Are you starting see the lack of intelligence in your statements about crypto Tiny[/U]?

[B]If you don't want to tax wealth, that at least tax all income in the same way![/B]

[QUOTE=Tiny12;3019306]HOWEVER, it might make sense to impose the 8% annual wealth tax proposed by Bernie Sanders on all Americans' holdings of cryptocurrencies, gold and collectibles.[/QUOTE][B]I don't give a fuck what they choose to tax[/B] For the record [U]Digital Assets[/U] are already taxed. I suppose you don't know this because you don't own any. I don't own any either.

[URL]https://www.irs.gov/filing/digital-assets[/URL]

If they choose to subject those assets to double taxation while continuing in their failure to tax wealth of the top 1% of US Citizens then all you are doing is making my point. The corporate plantation class of the Dis-United States of America will continue to accumulate assets and they will drain those asses from the middle class. Why? Because that is the only class that is left with significant assist in the Dis-United States of America. They got the poor. They got the government (it is now essentially bankrupt and in debt).

If they are going tax cryptocurrencies then your bank account is going is going to be taxed as well just for holding it. Wherever it is that you hold your cash. If you don't understand, figure out what a stable coin is. [B]ROTFLMAO[/B].

How are they going to know how much gold anyone holds? The reason people hold gold (in additional to a diversifying their portfolio) is because it is OUTSIDE the banking system and untraceable. Now in my case, if I happen to be wearing any gold I suppose customs could stop me. But I am like PitBull.

[QUOTE]I know when y'all think of The Cmdr, y'all think big trucks, big rims, But oh no, not me, I stay low-key so them boys can't spot me. Therefore, they can't watch me, if they can't watch. They sure as hell can't stop me[/QUOTE]Like I said before, I am just a [I]poor black man trying to make it in a white mans world[/I].

[U]Use of Cryptocurrencies[/U]

[QUOTE]Theyre not used in a significant way to create jobs, grow the economy or fund government.[/QUOTE]This is one of the least intelligent statements I have ever seen you write on ISG Tiny. I refuse to believe that you are so uninformed as have been living under a rock for the last 17 years BTC has existed. Have you never even heard of a Stable coin. Really? Your statement is not even worth my reply. But I will in order to educate.

[B]You want to talk about capitalism Tiny?[/B]

Do you know about the US Stock Market? If you do, then look up these symbols: COIN, MSTR, CRCL. Report back here the number of employees that work for these companies. Check the amount of revenue these companies generate. Check the market cap of these companies. Check the amount of debt from the US Treasury held by CRCL. While you are at it, do the same for Tether (USDT). Crypto is the seventh largest asset class on earth! I hear it is so easy to make money in BTC that even Blackrock has gotten into it!

[B]GTF![/B]

[QUOTE]Theyre not used in a significant way to create jobs, grow the economy or fund government.[/QUOTE]After you have done what I told you to do and you have educated yourself. Repeat that stupidity that you wrote into a voice recording, Sit down and play it back for yourself. REPEATEDLY each morning, during your morning routine, until you come to an understanding of the modern digital world.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;3019306]The Democrats want to continue taxing your worldwide income. The two politicians leading the charge to STOP the USAGOV from taxing YOUR worldwide income are DONALD J. TRUMP, and REPUBLICAN Darin LaHood.

https://www.taxesforexpats.com/articles/news/trumps-promise-toREPU-end-double-taxation-for-americans-abroad.html[/QUOTE]Man fuck them saltine cracker eating mother fuckers. [B]Republicans[/B] only want to see me and my fellow Americans who look like me (reference made to the MAGA from Texas who flys to Colombia all the time to fuck high priced prostitutes) along with all other colors (that do not look like them) to stay on the [I]government/corporate wage slave [b]plantations[/b][/I]. ([I]It should be noted that they now also all it working on the farm[/I]). [B]Republicans[/B] are some of the most hypocritical mother fuckers on earth. [U]Trickle down theory[/U]: (means they piss on your head). [U]Pro life[/U]: They tell a girl you must squat and push out babies that look like [B]Republicans[/B] but once you do it, * we got nothing of you. No school lunches * Go suck a dick. Preferably a [B]Repbublican[/B] dick. Get paid. Feed your kid. I got a mother fucking tee time! They don't care if YOUR children look like they are suffering through a famine. Look at the support they are giving the war criminal that is running that spot across the pond.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;3019306]And PLEASE, "this [I]poor black man[/I] who is just trying to make in a white world." You're living the dream, in Thailand. Many people would give their left nuts to lead your life.[/QUOTE]Are you sure? It may look like a dream to you but here on ISG it is a nightmare!

[QUOTE=Allover;3019280]Actually I think the other 5 people you mentioned are right and [b]Tiny12[/b] is wrong in this instance. While you brag about having the stack and flow (while putting others down) to afford a taxi from BKK to Pattaya, you still fly standby in Air India economy class.[/QUOTE]Individuals who post in the Thailand threads do not agree with you [B]Tiny12[/B]. They think you are wrong. Let us be honest. What do you really know about MY mother fucking life? [B]My life is fucking hell[/B]. I got ISG haters trolling me on a daily basis. I got more bitches trying to get an fuck appointment with me than I have time or money. My only regret is that I have but one dick to fuck with.

[QUOTE]Governments of the Industrial World, you weary giants of flesh and steel, I come from Cyberspace, the new home of Mind. On behalf of the future, I ask you of the past to leave us alone. You are not welcome among us. You have no sovereignty where we gather.
We have no elected government, nor are we likely to have one, so I address you with no greater authority than that with which liberty itself always speaks. I declare the global social space we are building to be naturally independent of the tyrannies you seek to impose on us. You have no moral right to rule us nor do you possess any methods of enforcement we have true reason to fear.
Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed. You have neither solicited nor received ours. We did not invite you. You do not know us, nor do you know our world. Cyberspace does not lie within your borders. Do not think that you can build it, as though it were a public construction project. You cannot. It is an act of nature and it grows itself through our collective actions.[/QUOTE][B]And so it begins![/B]

[QUOTE=Tiny12;3019306]HOWEVER, it might make sense to impose the 8% annual wealth tax proposed by Bernie Sanders on all Americans' holdings of cryptocurrencies, gold and collectibles.[/QUOTE][B]You mean in addition to the tariff on gold bars being implemented now?[/B]

When are these USGOV mother fucks going to stop this tariff [B]male bovine excrement[/B]. The current administration fear the average US Citizen taking their money outside of the fiat ponzi scheme and placing it in real assets that cannot be tracked, traced or monitored.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3019285]LOL. You thought some dummies would read your set up and spin on that link, read the link and then stupidly conclude Putin denied he wanted Trump to win the election and denied that he directed officials to help make that happen, didn't you?

But your little plan failed.

'Fess up; when YOU first read the report in that link, YOU were one of those dummies, right?.[/QUOTE]By changing the subject, you have admitted that you have lost the argument.

And you have to be a political idiot to expect that Putin or any other world leader would say before Trump, "Yeah, I wanted Hiliary to win. " and Putin, if nothing else, is a master politician. You on the other hand are anything but.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3019254]Yeah, because the NYT, writes about meaningless stories, all the time...right! (...kkkk!)[/QUOTE]Do I need to bring up Russiagate and Covid again? How many articles over how many years were devoted to them?

[QUOTE=Spidy;3019254]Nepal serves as GREAT example, in the move from fossil fuel dependency, to energy security, energy independence and geo-eco-political stability, with a strong conviction to their crisis driven administrative policies.

Just take other countries with a heavy hydro energy mix, like Brazil (83% hydro) and Canada (60%),both have less than 5% and 3.4% EV penetration, respectively.[/QUOTE]Here I will even help you out seeing as how you are struggling to understand. Here is a great video on EVs:

[URL]https://www.tiktok.com/@thefinanceinfo/video/7532506945819823382[/URL]

The problem with you Democratic is that you see a video like this and you jump the gun. Instead of giving incentives to private industry to oversee the gradual transition and let them fill in the needs gradually, you insist that government come in and force feed the shift.

Rail is better for the environment than cars so let's build high speed rail in California. Oh wait, we have spent billions and have a mile of track. Oh, let's spend billions and put charging stations on interstates, and in two years, you have built 10.

What government can do is give incentives to various industries and reward ones that get the job done. Let Tesla and other EV manufacturers drive the change and not government.

We have had a fossil fuel based infrastructure built up over a hundred years. It is going to take at least decades to roll that back if we can at all. There is not a supply chain issue with a country like Nepal. There may be one with Canada, Brazil, and the USA and even if there is not, it is going to take decades to build out the needed infrastructure.

The government should a referee not a participant. Most of the times when government is a participant, you get the California high speed rail experience.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3019282]BTW I heard there's a special room in HELL for ALL Libertarians.[/QUOTE][B]Tariff Bitcoin![/B]

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3019391][B]You mean in addition to the tariff on gold bars being implemented now?[/B]

When are these USGOV mother fucks going to stop this tariff [B]male bovine excrement[/B]. The current administration fear the average US Citizen taking their money outside of the fiat ponzi scheme and placing it in real assets that cannot be tracked, traced or monitored.[/QUOTE]Let's see MarquisdeSade1's living god (a statement that is pure blasphemy) put a tariff on Bitcoin. I'm holding two fingers up! Guess which ones.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2025/08/08/catholic-bishops-compare-ice-deportations-to-nazis-and-slave-catchers/[/URL]

His slave catcher comparison can be quite apropos at times.

He may want to rethink his words lololol.

He's not supposed to say the quiet part out loud LMFAO.

Sorry, you're correct SubCmdr, money invested in stable coins is invested in US debt and they serve as a medium of exchange. I believe my argument is good for Bitcoin, Ethereum and the like though.

You previously convinced me Bitcoin is not a Ponzi scheme, but are all the jobs created by the Bitcoin mining companies or Microstrategy any more praiseworthy than jobs created by Bernard L. Madoff Investments? Consuming massive quantities of energy to produce BTC doesnt seem like a good use of resources. And actually Microstrategy (although not BTC) is just bizarre, the way it funds BTC purchases and has a market cap much higher than its undelying assets. ChatGPT is telling me there are about 13,000 blockchain/crypto jobs in the USA. Admittedly thats as of 2023, but it doesnt seem like very many.

I do not actually believe there should be a special asset tax on cryptos like Bitcoin, or gold, although I do believe a property tax on collectibles could be justified, if taxpayers and the tax collector don’t have to jump through hoops to come up with fair valuations. Taxing Bitcoin and gold wouldn't be as foolhardy as your proposed wealth tax though. My proposal to tax crypto was satirical. The 8% was the tip off.

I did address your points about inequality. Again, Yes inequality is higher in the USA than in, say, Europe. But still the average American is considerably better off than the average person in France, Germany, UK, etc. Not only that but I proposed how we could reduce inequality by copying countries like Australia and Singapore.

I sincerely apologize if I offended you. I actually do admire what you've done with Bitcoin as well as certain aspects of the SubCmdr lifestyle. And Im appreciative of the help you gave me understanding how to use stablecoins. I shouldnt have replied to your post. When I hear wealth tax I react like a buddy in high school when somebody would say oink oink. Fred got caught banging a pig in high school and so he was compelled to come out fighting whenever someone would make pig sounds. Yes, Tooms was right when he speculated that I came from a place where tumbleweeds and sheep outnumbered the women.

I'm taking another vacation from this thread, it's too toxic, so if you want the last word it's yours.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3019436]By changing the subject, you have admitted that you have lost the argument.

And you have to be a political idiot to expect that Putin or any other world leader would say before Trump, "Yeah, I wanted Hiliary to win. " and Putin, if nothing else, is a master politician. You on the other hand are anything but.[/QUOTE]When you can post a link to the report of a bi-partisan Repub-led investigation that concludes the opposite of what Marco Rubio's Repub-led Repub investigation concluded then you might have the beginning chance at refuting what Obama, the Dems and I have said about it.

Was Putin standing in front of Trump when he issued that literal non denial that he wanted Trump, not Hillary, to win and directed officials to make that happen as quoted in your link?

Has any Repub-led investigation of Russia Russia Russia from Mueller to Durham to Barr to Rubio concluded that Putin wanted Hillary to win, Trump to lose, and invested time, money and man-power into making that happen rather than the exact opposite of it?

Nope.

Now we have the Durham annexe documents admitting the email suggesting Putin might kinda sorta maybe have wanted Hillary to win was very likely made up by Putin's spies.

Which MAGAs, you and no doubt that other MAGALoon Matt Taibbi are scrambling desperately to convince yourselves and any other dummies who might believe you that revelation is also is saying the opposite of what it says.

[URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/kamala-harris-is-done/[/URL]

Remember Roevember LMFAO.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxI0180LHxc&t=10s[/URL]

She couldn't get elected to small town dog catcher with out the help of using her mouth on her knees.

And Wille "THE PIMP" Brown.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3019520][URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/kamala-harris-is-done/[/URL]

Remember Roevember LMFAO.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxI0180LHxc&t=10s[/URL]

She couldn't get elected to small town dog catcher with out the help of using her mouth on her knees.

And Wille "THE PIMP" Brown.[/QUOTE]Former Vice President Kamala Harris has written a new book about her brief presidential campaign called 107 Days, and The Babylon Bee has obtained an advance copy.

The book won't be released until next month, but here are some of the most fascinating quotes:

"A prologue is like an introduction. So, here's my introduction. And this is my book. A book written by me. I am me. The writer of the book. ".

"My publisher said this book should be 100,000 words, which is very, very, very, very, very, very, very many words. ".

"This is a chapter. And in this chapter, there will be several pages. Each page contains many words. And the words are the meaning of the chapter. ".

"I was accused of covering up Joe Biden's severe dementia. This is false. During his entire term, he always seemed just as sharp and intelligent as I was. ".

"Of all the great political minds throughout history, the genius whose philosophy I admire most has to be Megan Thee Stallion. ".

"A Moscow Mule is three parts ginger beer, one part lime juice, and the rest is vodka. If you don't taste the vodka, you're doing it wrong. ".

"That was the day that I found out I've been pronouncing my first name wrong this whole time. ".

"It is my fervent hope and wish that my story can prove an inspiration for young black girls across this country whose dream it is to attain wealth, fame, and status through no achievement of their own. It can be done, girls!

"Am I right? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

"So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past. I wrote this. ".

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3019497]When you can post a link to the report of a bi-partisan Repub-led investigation that concludes the opposite of what Marco Rubio's Repub-led Repub investigation concluded then you might have the beginning chance at refuting what Obama, the Dems and I have said about it.[/QUOTE]Keep up, Loony Tooms. Why are you talking about an investigation when the facts are now known? When your parents told you Santa Claus was not real, did you point to an investigation that said he was?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3019497]Was Putin standing in front of Trump when he issued that literal non denial that he wanted Trump, not Hillary, to win and directed officials to make that happen as quoted in your link?[/QUOTE]No, Oatmeal for brains, Putin said before a spy we have in Russia he did not care who won. And all the dirt Putin had was not on Trump but Hiliary, and he apparently had buckets of it.

So here we go with the Alinsky method again. You douches accuse Putin of having dirt on Trump when in reality, Putin has it on Hiliary.

And the whole Russiagate fiasco was an attempted sideshow to take the attention of the email scandal. That is literally in the newly delassified information.

Usually when you douches are found to be so full of shit, you go to the never mind stage. In this case, your brain is so full of oatmeal you have not even figured out that it is time to do so.

Joe Biden is sharp as a tack. Never mind. Hunter Biden's laptop is Russian misinformation. Never mind. The vaccine is safe and effective. Never mind.

But you so want Russiagate to be true you keep holding onto it. But mom, I know Santa is real!

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3019520]

She couldn't get elected to small town dog catcher with out the help of using her mouth on her knees.

And Wille "THE PIMP" Brown.[/QUOTE]Great clip. What a dumbfuck! At least Biden, no great intellect himself, has dementia as his excuse for his incompetence.

Brown, an astute politician, originally advised Kamel face not to accept the VP nod. He was well aware of her mental limitations. He recommended that she stay out of national politics and accept a US Supreme Court nomination instead, which is a lifetime job. Good advice, but Kamel face did not listen to it, ran for VP, was elected, did a horrible job, ran an unbelievably incompetent presidential campaign, and as a result, she can't run for governor or anything else. She has no donors / no support to run. She is thru in politics. I bet the Democrats do not even invite her back to give a speech at their next presidential convention in 2028.