Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=LaxinBuddy;1855530]Thanks FL Hawk and Crocodilexp.

I have narrowed my lists of hotels down to 4 in each of the 3 cities I plan on visiting. Starting in Phuket, then Pattaya and BKK. I figure I will inquire about those in the hotel threads. Is that a good number to begin narrowing with?

Is everything I will find in these places pay for play? Going out to dance clubs and disco's is generally how I pick up girls my age in the states. Will being a young, decently attractive westerner only attract freelancers if I go out to these clubs or is there the chance of finding someone worth spending legitimate time with who will not require money for their time? More so a situation where I dote upon them and things flow more organically.

Thank you for the heads up about overpaying for service. I have spent enough time on these boards to understand that it doesn't benefit anyone.

How much of the language should I try to learn and how much will it benefit me?[/QUOTE]All places you have mentioned are rip off prices, your wasting your time looking for " the one" no such fucking thing here, you might find the odd girl for free, its possible, but you will have to pay, as for the language, forget it, I speak fluent Thai, and believe me, you wouldn't want to hear what these people say about us. Sorry to burst your bubble, times are not good here now, your about 10 years to late, its all greed, more money, etc etc. Take it for what it is.

Guys,

I am an Indian arriving in April. Just Wanted to know how much cash to keep for visa on arrival. Will be traveling alone. I am hearing mixed amounts.

Anyone know about the Sapphire Club, walking street, they have a lot of good looking Girls, can you barfine anyone of them and what will the cost be for barfine, and for shortime? Would love to know, thanks, MT.

[QUOTE=MichaelTours;1855676]Anyone know about the Sapphire Club, walking street, they have a lot of good looking Girls, can you barfine anyone of them and what will the cost be for barfine, and for shortime? Would love to know, thanks, MT.[/QUOTE]Most club have strictly coyote girls which won't go. They will tell you very clearly which girl is a coyote and which is not. If you read any post in this page you will find what the current rates are. I do not think Sapphire is any different.

[QUOTE=LaxinBuddy;1855530]
Is everything I will find in these places pay for play? Going out to dance clubs and disco's is generally how I pick up girls my age in the states. Will being a young, decently attractive westerner only attract freelancers if I go out to these clubs or is there the chance of finding someone worth spending legitimate time with who will not require money for their time?
More so a situation where I dote upon them and things flow more organically.[/QUOTE]With an attractive woman that you meet at the disco there is practically zero chances. If you want another way, try dating sites.

[QUOTE]How much of the language should I try to learn and how much will it benefit me?[/QUOTE]How much you can learn depends on your natural disposition, anyone can have 10 polite words but that won't help in practice. Try with some video or free material and see how you go, but to be honest with you 99% of tourists drop the ball at 20 words.

[QUOTE=Beno69;1855607]Very long text. With no real information! And very misleading.
1. many Girls on Beach Road make ST for about 700 THB. Before they start work in the GoGo -> ST 2000 THB.[/QUOTE]There is to be said that on all girls working the street, maybe less than 10 also work at a club. Different styles, different choices.

[QUOTE=JohnnyNeedsMor;1855668]Guys am an Indian arriving in April. Just Wanted to know how much cash to keep for visa on arrival. Will be travelling alone. I am hearing mixed amounts.[/QUOTE]You need 1000 Baht for Visa on Arrival. You can also download the form and fill it up before you arrive at the VOA counter at Suvarnabhumi airport.

[QUOTE=MichaelTours;1855676]Anyone know about the Sapphire Club, walking street, they have a lot of good looking Girls, can you barfine anyone of them and what will the cost be for barfine, and for shortime? Would love to know, thanks, MT.[/QUOTE]Girl with two digit numbers are on Salary, general BF is 800, but there are very few of them these days. Three digit are are Agency girls BF, is 1000. Depending on the time of year and events the BF could be 1500 and reduce to 1000 after Midnight? It is best to ask before you even buy a drink whether they can be BF and how much they will not be offended. The price range varies with each girl, I been quoted 2000/3500 just for ST, 3000/5000 LT.

[QUOTE=MumbaiGuy;1855728]You need 1000 Baht for Visa on Arrival. You can also download the form and fill it up before you arrive at the VOA counter at Suvarnabhumi airport.[/QUOTE]That is just the fee for visa on arrival. There is also a requirement for having cash as means of subsistence, which is 10,000 Bt visa exempt, 20,000 with any visa type, including visa on arrival. Normally not asked unless Immigration needs a reason to deny entry.

[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;1855716]With an attractive woman that you meet at the disco there is practically zero chances. If you want another way, try dating sites.

How much you can learn depends on your natural disposition, anyone can have 10 polite words but that won't help in practice. Try with some video or free material and see how you go, but to be honest with you 99% of tourists drop the ball at 20 words.[/QUOTE]I do about 150 X that many but it is NOT enough to carry on a "real" conversation. PasaThai mai ngai (Thai language is not easy).

[QUOTE=Dinghy;1855823]I do about 150 X that many but it is NOT enough to carry on a "real" conversation. PasaThai mai ngai (Thai language is not easy).[/QUOTE]Absolutely correct. Pasa Thai yak mak mak!

[QUOTE=LeisureDude;1855597]Started the day off today with an excursion to the tiger zoo a mini van with the tiger zoo logo on it stopped for me, I got in and there was a couple already in the mini van. I slapped on my seat belt remembering that movie line from the "Hangover 2" most people are killed in roadway accidents in Thailand I think that's how it goes. On the way to the zoo I thought I would catch some zees a few minutes into my nap the mini van is breaking real hard and I thinking I'm glad I'm wearing my seatbelt we didn't hit anything.

We got to the zoo and the mini van driver walks us over to the box office and two girls start placing stickers on us and gave us the low down on the zoo. I caught all three shows 1. Tiger 2. Crocodile 3. Elephant. The main reason I came to the zoo in the first place was a photo with a tiger, which I got. The tiger show was similar to the Gunther Gebel (another old reference) grabbed a nice seat right in front of the arena. The place was nice and empty then the floodgates broke and the other tour groups rushed in filling the stands! The show was pretty good but Gunther Gebel was better..[/QUOTE]Nice write up thanks for taking the time. The zoo and the soapy sound pretty good.

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1855505]
After many years of regular visits to Pattaya / Bangkok I finally called time, permanently, on Thailand just over a year ago...

So, no more of this nonsense for me. I am getting my dick wet for cheaper elsewhere.
[/QUOTE]Where, if I may ask?

Of course, the prices increased, but inflation is a fact of life. Over the last 5-10 years, food prices almost doubled, so no wonder pussy increased as well. The bigger problem is the availability and attitude / service. There are fewer girls, far worse looking, being far less pleasant to be around and doing less in bed (the semi-rushed minimal-service ST is increasingly the norm).

If prices are a concern, you can still find cheap (500 baht gets you laid if you dig deep and aren't picky), but huge selection and predominantly friendly, solid service are going away, and that can no longer be found even if you pay 5 x that much.

However, I don't know a place that's better, at least not in Asia. Philippines is a crime-ridden shithole, and AC has a far smaller selection than Pattaya. Indonesia is repressed (compared to the past) with venues often mafia-controlled, it doesn't have the free-wheeling spirit and places where affordable freelancers gather as Thailand does. Vietnam has good looks (and good prices if you know your way), but most hookers are looking out to scam you or provide crappy service if they can get away with it.

Thailand (both Pattaya and Bangkok) is depressingly shitty compared to 10 years ago. But unfortunately still better than all other places. I'd be happy to be wrong about this.

I'm done with my 11 days vacation in Pattaya-BKK. Returned to my home just 2 days back. I had a great time in Pattaya for which I'll write a detailed report since it's going to take some time, I'm already working on composing it.

Before I post the report there is something interesting I want to share with you intelligent people so that I can get great suggestions from all of you.

In short here is what happened. In my first day I met this beautiful girl from Laos in iBar (I already have mentioned about her in few previous posts. A detailed report of her service will come up shortly). This girl is cute & gave me a real good service in my first night with her, a real GFE experience I would say.

In the first night itself I got addicted to her & end up calling her once again. Later she stayed with me for 4 continuous days and a lot of good & bad things happened between us (I'll write them up in my upcoming detailed report). In my entire trip I was with her all the time. We had a great time & she become kind of my GF.

To be honest I fell in love with her (that's what I feel), and asked her to come with me to my hometown for a vacation. Eventually she told me about her family in Laos and all other sort of stuff. I liked her even more. While we were staying together I gifted her a dress and we have planned for a Koh Samui / Phuket trip together.

Now when my vacation got over and I prepared to leave Pattaya she become kind of emotional & I asked her to come with me so that we can know each other better, thus we may decide where our relationship leads. But she denied politely, but instead asked me to prove myself that I love her in real. Upon asking her, what are the requirements to prove myself she told "You have to take care of me by sending money to me".

Hell yes, now I came to know about her intentions of getting money from me & I simple skipped or rather ignored that discussion.

Now after I'm back to my hometown she is in talk with me regularly and in one way or another she is just asking for money. If I consider the previous experiences of fellow mongers who faced a situation like this, I know that I'm not going to get anything out of it and she is just behind my money. But to be honest I'm in love with her and I want to take our relationship to next level if she agree with me.

After all these things I'm not sure what to do and I definitely don't want to send her money even if it's a real need for her, instead I want to meet her, her family and then may be I can think of something. You may say / consider me as a fool but I certainly don't want to lose this girl.

I don't have any clue what should be the correct step should I take and in a confused state of mind. I believe there are experienced people out here who can suggest / guide me with the best possible way of handling this situation.

My wingman and I just spent a week in Pattaya. On my first day, I did my usual slip'and'slide at Honey body massage. I lucked out as I picked a cutie and she turned out to be a sweet girl as well. I ended up seeing her 4/5 times, and I took her out on her day off. Unfortunately, her service was limited: covered BJ only, no kissing, no P2 P (private-to-private). The eye candy factor was strong enough though to make it worthwhile spending time with her.

Free Lancers (FLs): the FLs on Beach road have become my go to girls recently. Unfortunately, I struck out this time. My favorites from past trips were not available, and the current flock was nothing to write home about. In the evening there were close to 50/60 FLs, but I found only 4 or 5 to my liking. I used to find a lot more in the past. I ended up taking only 2 FLs from beach road on this trip. The price was 1 k baht for a session.

Also, the LBs (lady boys) were everywhere and I had some difficulty avoiding them. The line of demarcation between LB territory and female territory was blurred, or the LBs appear to be grabbing more space. The scene was not as much fun this time around.

I was pretty successful at the discos. I took a couple of girls from the WS disco. It gets going early, around 11:30 pm and that suits me fine, as I cannot stay too late. The prices are around 2 k Bahts for LT (long time).

I also ventured into the GoGo bars. It's always a fun way to start the evening. I noticed that Sensations did not have much eye candy this time around, compared to 4 months ago. What's Up was also a disappointment, as it is turning into "Asian Only". We walked in around 10:30 pm and noticed that the customers were close to 80% Asians of the preferred ethnicity. Worse, during the half hour we were there, we saw them kicking out other ethnicities (even white) to make room for a large group of Koreans. Those folks also behaved like they owned the place. We were sitting at the edge of the group and some of them were bumping into us and being loud. Eventually, they moved us to another area, and we left soon after we finished our drinks.

I liked Baccara, Skyfall, and Saphire. They had some decent lookers, eager for business, and the crowd was mixed and well balanced. I picked up a GoGo girl from Skyfall. I met her the first night and bought her a drink. She immediately initiated a barfine discussion. She wanted 2 k bahts for barfine and 4 K for ST (short time). After I declined, she upgraded her offer to LT (long time). I did not bite that night, but the next night, I was doing another tour of the GoGos and by midnight felt the urge to revisit that lady. I ended up barfining her, and I had a great time with her. I was also pleased that I did not end up spending a paycheck at that place, only one drink for her.

I also visited Kinnaree, 007, and the one right next to it. I had a session in each, and was pleased with the service / price combination. It was roughly 1 k for the session plus drinks, and a fee for the room in some cases.

I stayed at The Stay hotel the whole week on Soy 10, a nice hotel but the wifi sucked big time in my room on the 5th floor. I ended up using my iPhone Internet to connect at extra expense but a much better connection.

Overall, another fun trip. I saw the Korean singer, Psy, two nights in a row in GoGo bars. People were taking pictures with him. He was also generous as he was throwing big wads of baht bills on the dance floor. Someone mentioned that he was there for the Pattaya music festival, which was going on the same week.