Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=The Mind Bender;1515994]There's nothing better than an "uncorrupted" sweet girl who can perform. Got to treasure while you have her because the next visit she won't be the same.[/QUOTE]Yes indeed. I have watched quite a few evolve from an "uncorrupted" chica into someone totally different on subsequent visits. But I guess they can say the same for me, that I changed too. For some reason many of these chicas in the game seem to age at a faster rate.

I had built up an extensive list thru the Cupid dating site before arriving in the DR.

This is exactly what I did before arriving in Sosua for my December trip and am currently working on for my return in February. I screened about twenty girls the month before arriving and was very upfront with the girls via E-mail and instant messaging on the Dominican Cupid Site. After getting to know the girls I would inform them that I was there on vacation not looking for a wife or a serious relationship. At this point the girls would either drop out or say "no problema". I would propose a scenario if we hit it off and acknowledge that they need money and ask them how much for a 12 hour night, etc. At this point some refused to quote a price so they dropped out. I had four girls quote me from 2,000 Pesos to 3,000 pesos. I had each girl come to Hotel Casa Cayena (great place) to meet me. One of the girls I had to turn away as she didn't look like her photo's. One of them was a divorced Mom of two who I spent two nights with but she figured out what I was up too so we didn't click. Another was a 22 year old cutie that cozied right up to me but was not to reliable answering the phone & E-mails so I didn't get to hook-up with her again. The last one which was the first one turned out to be a winner (2,000 Pesos) and I spent six nights and some days with her, she's my 28 year old hard body with no kids that is a sweetheart. She has sent me texts every other day since returning home and hasn't asked me yet to send her any money and knows I'll be returning in February.

I am assuming you speak Spanish because none of the girls I met on the Cupid Site spoke English. How did you handle what your expectations were with these girls, what you were doing there, how much money, etc you might pay them, etc. I am evaluating my approach on the dating site and was very careful to avoid any misunderstandings. My Spanish is limited but sufficient. Any suggestions or insights as to how you handled these Cupid girls would be appreciated. Also, I limited my selections to the Puerto Plata area so to avoid any one travelling from far away. Case in point, the one I had to turn away!

I took a stroll this morning and passed Passion's. I happened to meet the manager and he told me that the club will open tonight at 6 pm. Maybe this is old news for you but I have not seen anything about it in this forum.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1516218]Yes indeed. I have watched quite a few evolve from an "uncorrupted" chica into someone totally different on subsequent visits. But I guess they can say the same for me, that I changed too. For some reason many of these chicas in the game seem to age at a faster rate.[/QUOTE]You can blame poor eating habits, pregnancy, excessive partying, drinking and smoking. When the only work out you get daily is lying on your back it's no surprise these chicas don't look so good by their mid to late 20s. It's sad because a lot of these girls could rival the models back home if they just exercised a bit.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1516223]I am assuming you speak Spanish because none of the girls I met on the Cupid Site spoke English. How did you handle what your expectations were with these girls, what you were doing there, how much money, etc you might pay them, etc. I am evaluating my approach on the dating site and was very careful to avoid any misunderstandings. My Spanish is limited but sufficient. Any suggestions or insights as to how you handled these Cupid girls would be appreciated. Also, I limited my selections to the Puerto Plata area so to avoid any one travelling from far away. Case in point, the one I had to turn away![/QUOTE]Not sure who you were seeking feedback from, but I can share a little of my experience.

I don't speak spanish fluently. I know enough Spanish to get by though. When I 1st joined DC I thought it was cool corresponding back and forth with chicas for weeks and months before meeting them. Now, I find that counter-productive, and to a certain extent, kinda corny. We arent developing a relationship, so whats the point? For one, many of these chicas are communicating with several dudes all at the same time. Just like any other dating website. The only connection that counts is the one with the guy in country with her at that moment. Only when I'm there will my turn be significant. So now, when my membership is paid and I'm browsing profiles or responding to interested chicas, I send messages to chicas telling them I will be there in a week.

Give me your number and I'll call you when I get there. Just about every woman I sent that message to, left her number in my mailbox. No hesitation. I believe when they know you will be there so soon, you get moved up on the priority list. They know some bennies are just a week away. A dude still online yapping away aint getting nowhere until he gets himself down there.

When I arrive in country, if I want I will call them, and arrange a meeting. Last April it was a chica that lived in PP. I called her before I left the airport to go to Sosua. I met a taxi friend of mine at the airport and got him to translate for me. I ended up going into PP to meet her that afternoon. She was fine as hell. Took her back to Don Antonio and she was my pretend GF for about 2 months. Thats just one example. But my point is, I feel I am having more success just taking numbers and calling when I get in country, than maintaining weeks and months of meaningless chatter with women who are juggling communication with several dudes online including me.

I don't concern myself getting details straight with chicas (their expectations for $$$) before meeting them. That I can do once I meet them in person, once I realize there is mutual attraction. Ironically, often it wasnt necessary getting payment expectations out on the table. We just went with the flow. Most times things went well, all were satisfied. Other times, adjustments had to made for overly opportunistic chicas. If a Dom Cupid chica tried to get payment details on the table online or in email prior to meeting, I probably wouldn't follow through with her. I can go to Sosua for that.

[quote=Wrx2005; 1516319]Not sure who you were seeking feedback from, but I can share a little of my experience.[/quote]I appreciate hearing your experience (s) as it is exactly what I was looking for. It sounds as though we have both been successful with the dating site even though we went about things in a different way. I did get lots of numbers, call me when you arrive, etc. And will " loosen up" my approach in preparing for my return in February.

Thanks again for your feedback.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1515991]And this goes for anybody who does not want to give you a price upfront for anything. It reminds me of when I was in Boca Chica buying fish and I asked the guy how much it would cost. He kept telling me not to worry about it. Then when I finished eating he thought he was going to hit me with a bill for 800 pesos. I cursed him out and gave him 400 and told him that the only reason I was giving him that much was because his little daughter went to buy me a Coke; thinking he could just rip anybody off who came along.[/QUOTE]I used to have a Dominican taxi / tourist guide friend that always said don't worry about it when I used his services. By not giving prices / costs for services it's easier to end up paying him more. And he knows that. Thats why he scoffs and acts indifferent when asked to give up a price / cost for his services. In addition he has asked me to buy stuff for him and bring it to him when I return. But bringing gifts, that doesn't mean he expects less for his services. In fact, it seems the more you befriend some individuals in the DR the more they expect to get out of you because of that "friendship" (familiarity ). I like him as a friend, but prefer not to partake of his services or get too involved with him socially for the reasons I stated.

Same goes for my cable guy who invited me to spend time with his family, but set me up to pay for a shit load of presidentes even though I was supposed to be his guest. That matter was eventually resolved by his sister later that night in my spot.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1516223]I had built up an extensive list thru the Cupid dating site before arriving in the DR. This is exactly what I did before arriving in Sosua for my December trip and am currently working on for my return in February. I screened about twenty girls the month before arriving and was very upfront with the girls via E-mail and instant messaging on the Dominican Cupid Site. After getting to know the girls I would inform them that I was there on vacation not looking for a wife or a serious relationship.[/QUOTE]That sounds like a lot of work to find someone you will only be interested in for a few hours and want to pay anyway. If you are going to vacation in the middle of nowhere maybe, but you are visiting Sosua. It's like visiting Orlando but wasting a bunch of time online beforehand trying to locate a few merry-go-rounds. Once you arrive it will be in your face and you can just pick the ripe fruit from the tree. I would rather use online fishing for someone I am interested in not for a hooker-trick relationship but more for a long-term basis, and not a 12-hour basis. You probably spent more time than that trying to weed them out or vet them. In addition, after going through all of that you have to worry about no-shows. Like Wrx said, all you need to do it sit inside Rocky's and when a girl walks by say,"Hey you. Come here." And it's a done deal.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1516171]Apparently, what some of these chicas think about you is important to you or a concern.[/QUOTE]I'm only concerned with what they think of me to the extent that I think it will affect the future service I will receive (from them or those they communicate with).

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1516171]in hindsight do you think when you offered that chica a gift (the lingerie) before her having to earn it, that that was a good look for you?[/QUOTE]I think there is a serious tradeoff here and we would all do well to understand that tradeoff, even though we might reach a different conclusion based on our unique preferences. Gifts vs cash only has been discussed on the boards before. And I think there is some merit to both views. Let me try to lay out the issues.

I agree with you that giving a gift might suggest to the chica that you can be taken advantage of. I also agree that giving a gift in advance might send mixed signals about whether you plan to pay in cash or in kind and this might prompt a girl to request cash payment up front as well. These facts alone suggest that we would all do well by paying only in cash (no gifts!) and, if we do bring gifts, only give them after services are rendered or during repeat interactions.

On the other hand, some of us enjoy giving gifts. I think, in most cases, you are right: she does not give a damn about being given a gift. She just wants the money. So when I say the gifts are enjoyable for me I certainly don't mean "it feels good to give" because it probably isn't doing anything for her. No, I mean I actually get something out of it. I don't bring soaps or lotions or perfumes. I bring lingerie. And while, ostensibly, it is a gift for her, it is *actually* a gift for me. I like telling a girl to put something on and know that she will do it-and basically anything-for me. I much prefer pounding a cute little thing in a small lace slip. I love watching the fabric stretch just up to the breaking point as I pull it tight against her while taking her from behind. It just makes the experience much better for me. And, let's face it: sometimes you bring a tiny little spinner back to the room and she doesn't look quite as good without clothes on as you expected. How many times have you though "She's so fucking tiny. Where the hell did that pouch come from!" A little lingerie conceals just enough. It can make an 8 or 9 look like a 10. So giving gifts only after services are performed defeats the purpose for me.

For me, the potential reduction in service from gifting (appearing to be weak, etc) is not enough to offset to pleasure the gifts bring me. So I give gifts. But this only works for me because I really enjoy the gifts. Others may only want to bang a naked girl. In which case they would be foolish to waste their money on such gifts. Others may have other attributes that make them look weak already, and would be foolish to make their problem worse by giving gifts. The important thing is to recognize the tradeoff and make the best decision for you.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1516171]Oh yeah they'll play if off as if they absolutely love the gift and are having a swell time with you, and make you feel all proud and shit[/QUOTE]Yeah. I know they would prefer if I just gave them an extra $6 in cash instead of spending that money on lingerie. And, for the most part, they are just acting. When they are grateful for gifts. When they are having sex with you. When they say "You too big papi". When they cuddle in close at night like you are the only man in their life. Hell, it is all one big act. But that is what we are paying for: an immersive experience.

No one walks out of an action movie and says "That wasn't so great because they were just acting." No one gets off a roller coaster and says "I would have enjoyed it more if my life were actually in serious danger." We all love to suspend disbelief at times. It's fun!

These girls-the really good ones-make you believe that you are a god in the sack; that you are so powerful and important that they will do whatever you want; that you can have them forever because you are so desirable. Is it true? Hell no. Unsurprisingly, most of us are average. So we all know better (or, at least those of us who are not fools know better.) But it feels good to be king, if only for a little while, and if only in our own minds.

Enjoy it. Then pay up.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1516319]That I can do once I meet them in person, once I realize there is mutual attraction.[/QUOTE]I assume by "mutual attraction" you mean that you find her attractive and she is willing to take your cash.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1516373]Like Wrx said, all you need to do it sit inside Rocky's and when a girl walks by say,"Hey you. Come here." And it's a done deal.[/QUOTE]God, I love Sosua. It is so easy.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1516373]That sounds like a lot of work to find someone you will only be interested in for a few hours and want to pay anyway. If you are going to vacation in the middle of nowhere maybe, but you are visiting Sosua. It's like visiting Orlando but wasting a bunch of time online beforehand trying to locate a few merry-go-rounds. Once you arrive it will be in your face and you can just pick the ripe fruit from the tree. I would rather use online fishing for someone I am interested in not for a hooker-trick relationship but more for a long-term basis, and not a 12-hour basis. You probably spent more time than that trying to weed them out or vet them. In addition, after going through all of that you have to worry about no-shows. Like Wrx said, all you need to do it sit inside Rocky's and when a girl walks by say,"Hey you. Come here." And it's a done deal.[/QUOTE]In October and November my DC membership was in full effect. I had several numbers of chicas to contact. However, I only contacted one from PP. She had the Mr Ed thing going on with her grill. Plus she lied about her age. Her profile said she was 29, but in person she revealed that she was 41. A total turn off. And it changed my interest in pursuing the other contacts.

So, every time I was on the ground in Sosua, there were so many chicas available, that I forgot all about the DC chicas. In Sosua the chicas were right in my face. My attraction was realized in the moment, no guess work involved. We all knew why they were there and what was expected. The DC chicas I had no clue if I would be attracted to or would want to get with them. Plus, the probability of encountering issues, like them claiming to need money for transportation or them being on or coming off the rag.

You know the saying "A bird in the hand."

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1516373]That sounds like a lot of work to find someone you will only be interested in for a few hours and want to pay anyway. If you are going to vacation in the middle of nowhere maybe, but you are visiting Sosua. It's like visiting Orlando but wasting a bunch of time online beforehand trying to locate a few merry-go-rounds. Once you arrive it will be in your face and you can just pick the ripe fruit from the tree. I would rather use online fishing for someone I am interested in not for a hooker-trick relationship but more for a long-term basis, and not a 12-hour basis. You probably spent more time than that trying to weed them out or vet them. In addition, after going through all of that you have to worry about no-shows. Like Wrx said, all you need to do it sit inside Rocky's and when a girl walks by say,"Hey you. Come here." And it's a done deal...[/QUOTE]I ended up with one DC chica for six nights and three full days together so consider the time I spent to find her well worth it. At other times I was pulling chicas off the beach, the streets, bars, beauty shops, etc. Just like sitting at Rocky's but didn't always have the greatest experiences but did have some good ones as explained in my past reports reports when I was there in December.

[QUOTE=ORourke86;1516379]I assume by "mutual attraction" you mean that you find her attractive and she is willing to take your cash.[/QUOTE]Yes exactly!

Dunno what to say. I met over a dozen from Cupid and they were all honest and none were over 23. It is a lot of work though. I get their Facebook sites and check out all their photos and their timelines. I validate, cross- validate and look for sound of their voice, how they talk etc. Even though my spanish is barely elementary. I am also fairly proficient in reading people in general. Not a 100% success rate, but probably say 65. But it is an art though and I can't quite spell out the details of taking in individual data points and weaving them into a personality profile projection.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1516386]In October and November my DC membership was in full effect. I had several numbers of chicas to contact. However, I only contacted one from PP. She had the Mr Ed thing going on with her grill. Plus she lied about her age. Her profile said she was 29, but in person she revealed that she was 41. A total turn off. And it changed my interest in pursuing the other contacts.

So, every time I was on the ground in Sosua, there were so many chicas available, that I forgot all about the DC chicas. In Sosua the chicas were right in my face. My attraction was realized in the moment, no guess work involved. We all knew why they were there and what was expected. The DC chicas I had no clue if I would be attracted to or would want to get with them. Plus, the probability of encountering issues, like them claiming to need money for transportation or them being on or coming off the rag.

You know the saying "A bird in the hand."[/QUOTE]