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[QUOTE=Fkk Lover]I used to think I needed at least 6 days there to justify the cost of my plane ticket. I started to realize that going to the room anywhere between 3 to 6 times a day for a week straight... those last couple of days got to be a bit of a grind and less enjoyable. So I don't try to justify the cost of the ticket or the time & effort to travel there anymore. 3 or 4 days is just about perfect for me despite the long commute[/quote]I couldn't agree more. Last time I went over to Germany I stayed 10 days and by the tme I was on my 8th day I felt like I was just doing it because I could. 5 or 6 days is top now for the quality.

I also agree on the Nevada brothels. I did an all night at the Chicken Ranch in the 90's (or was it the 80's) with a girl who coudn't get a job doing the laundry at Oase for a princely sum that would pay for the air and 2 days at an FKK.

JL

Hi fellow mongers and thank's for the knowledge you have brought on to this FKK newbie by reading this forum. An opportunity has arised for me to visit either the Düsseldorf/NRW or Frankfurt area on the third or maybe fourth weekend this month. Given a preference for Latin or black women would you recommend going to Oase and/or Palace or could any club in the NRW area be an alternative? I understand that some of the Latin crowd is on vacation now. Advice greatly appreciated.

Stoneh

[QUOTE=Jackyo]Let me find out.

I've been tracking her whereabouts too.

Last I heard (or rather read), she was at Wiago. But then she quit.

Interesting tidbit I picked up on the RF: she has a sister who works at GT. Its possible she is there but let me find out.[/QUOTE]

Thanks mate, do share if u manage to find out.

[QUOTE=Stonehenge68] Given a preference for Latin or black women would you recommend going to Oase and/or Palace or could any club in the NRW area be an alternative? I understand that some of the Latin crowd is on vacation now. Advice greatly appreciated. Stoneh[/QUOTE]

Hi stoneh,

by the time you go (2nd half of January), most of the Latin girls should be back from their Christmas holidays.
At Palace & Oase there is always a crowd of dominicanas, at least 6 or so. But as reported in the forum, Palace has had a lot of issues recently, plus price increase to 75 Euro, so I´d advise Oase over Palace right now. If you go to Oase, see if Gabriela (mulata from Venezuela) is around – she´s fantastic.

In NRW, Goldentime and Planet Happy Garden are near Düsseldorf. Planet Happy Garden has mostly Eastern Europeans, but Goldentime has more variety, several Latinas and also a couple of nice African girls there.
Personally I like the NRW clubs better – they are closer to where I live, atmosphere is nice plus they are cheaper overall (entry 50 €, one hour 75 €) than Frankfurt.

Have fun.
Felipe

[QUOTE=Stonehenge68]Given a preference for Latin or black women would you recommend going to Oase and/or Palace or could any club in the NRW area be an alternative? [/QUOTE]

Palace latinas to recommend:
Kathi, DomRep
Alice, DomRep
Stefanie, DomRep
Alessandra, Brasil
Maria, DomRep
Honey, DomRep
Lisa, Cuba
Karina, DomRep

Oase latinas/blacks to recommend:
Emanuelle, Gouadeloupe/France
Cindy, Ghana
Lynette, Nigeria
Gabriela, DomRep
Jacqueline, DomRep

That's just my list. I can't tell who'll be still on vacation, so good luck.

At my last visits before X-mas I found Oase rather empty. Maybe it has recovered by now or will recover until end of month.

Hessen Bub

Not trying to push a particular boat in the establishment rankings but in reading the contributions below the following struck me as one angle in weighing up the clubs.

Taking Bernd's, a small club, there does see to be general agreement ( yes - as well the facilities need a major "brush-up" in a Big way), that the say 12-15 girls at Bernd's every day provide nearly uniform very top level and consistent service.

Looking at other Club runners, what are the chances on any given night at the "Big clubs" with 50 + and up girls that there would be 12-15 girls on the job at those clubs who would reach or surpass the service levels of the Bernd's girls?

Just a thought.

Never forgetting in Racing vernacular that there are: "Horses for Courses".

Most of the Bernd's girls are long time stayers, and there is a bit of a team spirit there. I bet it's easier to manage 15 girls vs 50 (and have had experience to prove it too) and maintain a level of service.

Bernd's is a great day out, if it's not too busy (like on a Friday) then your guaranteed to leave happy. At the bigger venues the same applies, you just need to ask more questions.

C1

[QUOTE=Cunning 1]Most of the Bernd's girls are long time stayers, and there is a bit of a team spirit there. I bet it's easier to manage 15 girls vs 50 (and have had experience to prove it too) and maintain a level of service.

Bernd's is a great day out, if it's not too busy (like on a Friday) then your guaranteed to leave happy. At the bigger venues the same applies, you just need to ask more questions.

C1[/QUOTE]
...that have come and gone and many that are still around in better locations and with more upscale facilities. None have have been able to manage and maintain 15 (it's actually more like 20) girls vs. 50 with the same consistent high level of service and unique atmosphere. I'm just back (2 hours ago) from my monthly visit and it remains a place of worship...
I'm planning to visit Cocoon, Steffi's Waldsauna, Living Room, Oase and Bernd's this week + Beverly and maybe a party treff, and given that I'm probably not objective any more, I plan on posting on the relative comparision between them all.

Well my question still remains open: can members who frequent the "larger clubs" confirm that in any of them, on most and any night there are 12-15 or more performers in attendance that could match or better the service levels of the Bernd's?

Not looking to debate the issue just to seek clarification of the numbers at the larger clubs - for a start and example I can say that at Samya - not a large club in my opinion and in my visits, there wouldn't be anywhere near the number who would be providing the "usual" Bernd's service levels. Like to hear opinions on the Big Three as to quantity providing quality.

[QUOTE=Excess]Well my question still remains open: can members who frequent the "larger clubs" confirm that in any of them, on most and any night there are 12-15 or more performers in attendance that could match or better the service levels of the Bernd's?[/QUOTE]

In World, Oase and Palace there are for sure at least 15 performers that match or better the service level of the girls at Schieferhof. Especially if you lower your demands on looks to the Hof-level. I for example did not find more than 3 out of 12 or 15 girls at Schieferhof attractive.

Hessen Bub

Excess, you are probably right, there are at least 15 girls of the level of Bernd's in each of the Hessen 3 and GT. My best personal experiences are not in Bernd's but in the bigger clubs. If you have a good feeling in finding out those who will have a good chemistry with you, you are far better out in the bigger clubs. If not, go to Bernd's were the best service is guaranteed.

Thank you gentlemen.

So now all we have to work on is how to ensure that there is never more than 12-15 serious mongers at one time in any of these clubs (including ourselves of course). That way, we should be very well served indeed !

Look forward to your (un)objective report.

One issue is that a much more practised exponent like yourself can minimise the pit-falls vs a relative newbie, even if you read up here on what you "should" do.

In the heat of battle, we all wilt to some degree!

C1

12-15 excellent service providers? To me 3 or 4 on any given day is enough ;)

But, yes, I concur with Routard and Hessenbub. You can always find girls that give excellent service at the big three. It's not as sure a thing as at Bernd's, but this actually makes it a bit more fun to find the right one. And of course it also depends on your own attitude towards the girl ...

I also agree with Hessenbub that it would have been hard for me to call more than 3 girls attractive during my visit to the 'Hof. I was lucky in that there were not too many guys there when I visited; and so I had my pick. But if these three would have been booked, then I would have had to resort to a good wanking (no offense, WanKing, my honorable brother :D). I saw that the two seriously overweight ladies at the 'Hof were giving great couch service and were really into it, but as the German say ... "Das Auge isst mit."

euro
(who will take his chances with finding the right level of service at Oase on Saturday and at ColA on Sunday)

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Palace latinas to recommend:
Kathi, DomRep
Alice, DomRep
Stefanie, DomRep
Alessandra, Brasil
Maria, DomRep
Honey, DomRep
Lisa, Cuba
Karina, DomRep

Oase latinas/blacks to recommend:
Emanuelle, Gouadeloupe/France
Cindy, Ghana
Lynette, Nigeria
Gabriela, DomRep
Jacqueline, DomRep

That's just my list. I can't tell who'll be still on vacation, so good luck.

At my last visits before X-mas I found Oase rather empty. Maybe it has recovered by now or will recover until end of month.

Hessen Bub[/QUOTE]Thank's a lot Hessen Bub. I am glad to hear that there's a fairly large selection of latinas. I will go to Frankfurt so Oase and maybe Palace it is, and I will study your list. I will also try to follow the the general rule to really get a feal for the girl and to negotiate in detail before clsoing the deal, even if it's easier said than done while kissing and fondling.