Kyiv

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;2292605]The mongering scenes in Kiev are complicated and it's difficult to simply tell you what is the best way to find girls, as everyone has his own preferences based on his experiences.

I would suggest you to take your time and read the first 50 pages of this forum (and take notes if necessary). By doing so, you will get a general idea of the current Kiev mongering scenes and will probably figure out which method suits you.[/QUOTE]Golden words!

There are no Pimps on this Forum, but sufficient very useful info has been exchanged and posted.

Seems a lot of you guys that are complaining are looking more for love or serious attention. Money will get her to fuck you, but it will not make her interested in you if you are boring and expect her to just lay in bed for six hours. That is called sleeping. Kiev is not some miracle city just because you have a little bit of money. It is just a city for people that love Slavic girls and they are much easier to get because of their low salaries. Girls in Kyiv do not want a boring guy just like any other city. They will just be willing to overlook your age or looks for less money than most other European girls.

Just returned from 3 days in Kiev, the girls were plenty and as expected, aged 20 to 30 , but I have to admit they prefer no turks, no indians, no israelis, pm me for contacts.

Gives me a different perspective about Kiev. Last time I went to Kiev. I wasn't prepared. Couldn't utilise the opportunity. I was mainly relying on [URL]backpage.com[/URL] - lot of catfish.

[QUOTE=PhotoSlider;2292699]Correct, takes some work and time, but it's very much doable. Hot girls are everywhere in Kiev, and for much less money.

Easy solution is take that 7 grand and go to German FKK.

Offering $500 a day or $7000 per 2 weeks is actually counterproductive in Kiev. The monger doing this would immediately be identified as a candidate for milking, and will not be respected.

Kozerog feeds his designated beneficiary in modest increments. He also visits Kiev regularly, and his thinking is well balanced, decision making is realistic. I would definitely trust his approach. I also met a few gentlemen in Kiev over the last year, that are successful with hot ladies. Jymondor is another great example of having amazing time with super hot ladies in Kiev. His methodology is posted on this Forum, and I concur that his ladies are exceptional, because I met them in person. They have great appearance, attitude, skills, and are rather affordable.

There are many more examples of success, as well as failure and whining.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IndusMint;2292868]Just returned from 3 days in Kiev, the girls were plenty and as expected, aged 20 to 30 , but I have to admit they prefer no turks, no indians, no israelis, pm me for contacts.[/QUOTE]I found the opposite m. Ukraine People are very tolerant and open.

[QUOTE=TinyHippo;2292796]Seems a lot of you guys that are complaining are looking more for love or serious attention. Money will get her to fuck you, but it will not make her interested in you if you are boring and expect her to just lay in bed for six hours. That is called sleeping. Kiev is not some miracle city just because you have a little bit of money. It is just a city for people that love Slavic girls and they are much easier to get because of their low salaries. Girls in Kyiv do not want a boring guy just like any other city. They will just be willing to overlook your age or looks for less money than most other European girls.[/QUOTE]Language barrier is a major problem here. Sometimes even if you are interesting, your limited language stills will prevent the girls from finding you interesting.

[QUOTE=TinyHippo;2292796]. Girls in Kyiv do not want a boring guy just like any other city. They will just be willing to overlook your age or looks for less money than most other European girls.[/QUOTE]If you mean they are looking for an interesting guy, I completely disagree with you. They are looking for a man that will feed them and keep feeding them and then feed them some more. And if you stop, bye bye relationship. Absolutely true about overlooking age and looks. But you have to be the kind of man that accepts himself as a walking ATM. You have to be understanding to the fact they'll never appreciate anything you give. Most men don't have the strength or the sense of reality to play the cards in their favor.

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;2293037]Language barrier is a major problem here. Sometimes even if you are interesting, your limited language stills will prevent the girls from finding you interesting.[/QUOTE]I had very few issues with language. They understand English when they want. Google Translator work great is there is a problem.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2293022]I found the opposite m. Ukraine People are very tolerant and open.[/QUOTE]Haha give me a break. Things are slowly changing but Ukraine is still one of the more racist countries in the world.

[QUOTE=Rog123;2293114]Haha give me a break. Things are slowly changing but Ukraine is still one of the more racist countries in the world.[/QUOTE]Times are changing, I am the positive person now. Ukraine's are very tolerant.

Looks like the only one on the Kiev thread that banged or hooked up with Ukraine girls this week is me. What a Surprise!

[QUOTE=Rog123;2293114]Things are slowly changing but Ukraine is still one of the more racist countries in the world.[/QUOTE]Racism is certainly strong within the Ukrainian society, and post by IndusMint clearly shows that. I personally want nothing to do with his girls, because they differentiate based on the basis of religion and ethnicity.

At the same time slowly, but a society strata is emerging where even working girls are much more tolerant towards most anybody who treats them nicely and pays, including Turks, Azerbaijani, Georgian, middle Eastern, and many others. That is certainly a new development, more cosmopolitan.

I would still be cautious, even downtown, especially during big European football events, when lots of idiots flood the streets and bars.

[QUOTE=Riina;2293055]If you mean they are looking for an interesting guy, I completely disagree with you. They are looking for a man that will feed them and keep feeding them and then feed them some more. And if you stop, bye bye relationship. Absolutely true about overlooking age and looks. But you have to be the kind of man that accepts himself as a walking ATM. You have to be understanding to the fact they'll never appreciate anything you give. Most men don't have the strength or the sense of reality to play the cards in their favor.[/QUOTE]Riina,

I would position this differently:

1. If there are two middle aged guys, not quite fat and ugly, but not Karl Lagerfeld types either. Both go to ATM and extract crispy bills at roughly the same rate. One is boring, and another one is fun to be with for the girl.

Do I even have to ask the rhetorical question at this point?

2. Why is it that one out of six or so girls at Rio Strip Club refuses to go with me for $300 but does so with other men? Because I do not interest her. And that's perfectly fine, I do not feel less masculine over that.

If everything else is approximately the same, and there is a choice, then Ukrainian actresses prefer having a good time. Perhaps I misunderstood, and you include entertainment, cash, gifts and wining-dining in the definition of ladies being fed.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2293111]I had very few issues with language. They understand English when they want. Google Translator work great is there is a problem.[/QUOTE]Yeah google translate works fine until you want to have conversations with your girl on non-trifle topics.

[QUOTE=Riina;2293055]If you mean they are looking for an interesting guy, I completely disagree with you. They are looking for a man that will feed them and keep feeding them and then feed them some more. And if you stop, bye bye relationship. Absolutely true about overlooking age and looks. But you have to be the kind of man that accepts himself as a walking ATM. You have to be understanding to the fact they'll never appreciate anything you give. Most men don't have the strength or the sense of reality to play the cards in their favor.[/QUOTE]Then you are trying to date a pro which makes no sense or the other option is that you offer only money. Mongering is a fun game. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, but there are thousands of girls in Kyiv. All I know is that I have banged what would be impossible in my home country for free or little money (200€) while being an average looking 40 yo with average western EU salary.