Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1299255]L.

For me the BEST service and best experience in Bangkok is in the massage places. Always has been and always will be. Its where you find the Thailand experience that you read about and the attitude is ALWAYS infinitely better.[/QUOTE]With my limited experience, I agree. Some time ago I was coming on the MRT from visiting a friend, got on Sutthisan, I believe. As I entered the car I noticed a real sweet looking girl standing there in a nice dress. I smiled she smiled back. I greeted her, telling her she looked very pretty. She smiled and returned the compliment with a thank you. We chatted for a moment with me leaning into her close enough to whisper in her ear being as discreet as possible. She smelled good like Channel perfume. After a moment I joked I should be spending the rest of the afternoon with her, to my surprise she said she couldn't do all after noon however I could have a two hour session. I backed up and looked, she said she worked at EZ massage over on Soi 24.

Needless to say it was everything I wanted, and have repeated a couple of times, Cat is her name and she is not afraid to get any jizz on her or in her mouth.

This happened another time when I was getting on the BTS at On Nut, same thing, met a cutie and chatting she invited me to come over for a massage. Both times better than average service.

[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1299100]Hi All,

My first time posting in this form. In the DR it is truly $40 ST with your own room. In Thailand it is not against protocol to use your own room is it? Do the other costs really nickel and dime the price to the $110 just for ST? ! If so. Wow.

Is there a sticky post anywhere for the newbies, detailing the where to go's, places to stay, things to watch out for, diversions, etc? A sticky would be really nice. I saw the sukhumvit-psycho website which seems kind of useless. I know about the reports of distinction, BK hotels thread. One friend says to go just for the soapies![/QUOTE]Well, those 110$ were a bit ovest spent. Too much LD etc, I would say. Oneof course is free to indulge in spending for a good time. Depends also what the priorities are. If you keep it a minimum, but still ok, you can save some 30. Nevertheless, one way or the other, a couple of hours (that is a decent ST) will not cost less than 2/2500 baht. Let's face it. Be it with a gogo girl (where you need to add LD and bar fine to the official or negotiated rate) , an oily (where a FS means 1500 plus house fees) , or a soapie (check rates of Annie's as an example). You can still keep it low with a FL at Nana Parking (or along sukhumvit) with a good 1000baht and take her to your hotel. Probably the only way to level down the costs of a decent ST. All this without wandering through the town as a desperate guy in search of the cheapest opportunity, just to rick a box rather than having a good and relaxing time.

[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1299255]Let me preface this all by saying that the first year I was in Bangkok I used to like the Gogo bars and used to barfine girls all the time. I hate all that stuff about "oh it was so much better 10 years ago" and firmly believe it is the individuals perception that changes and NOT the overall scene (anybody turning up in Pattaya or Bangkok for the first time will STILL be as blown away as I was 20 years ago).

It was a good reminder of why I have never seen Gogo's as a P4P option for the last 6 or 7 years. To me it is just a total waste of time.

Why on earth anyone would bother with Gogos is beyond me. Head for the massage places. They are just SOOOO much better in every way. Stunners or not.[/QUOTE]Go Go bars are where the good looking young women are supposed to be. Ofcourse it varies from bar to bar. Also depends on the time of the day. Most good looking women are barfined early and some are kept for many days.

These bars do offer a good entertainment. Me and my Thai gf liked to go to go go in the evenings just to have couple of drinks and watch and talk. Cannot stay in the room and fuck all the time.

Even if I am alone I like the atmosphere. If I find the right girl I will barfine her.

I have gotten good service from massage girls also. You can take out massage girls for ST or LT to your room. Generally I do not like sex with them in massage places. Regular massage only.

In Pattaya I would go to massage places and ask the boss to show me good looking young girls and I would take the LT. They are happy because no need to work hard that day except have sex with me.

Ofcourse I make her as my gf for dinner and dancing etc.

Only thing is in Massage places only some girls can be taken out. Also depends on how many girls are working that day. But once you become friends with the boss, he or she will help you.

I have used the same tactic in USA also in Korean massage places albeit worked out little more expensive.

[QUOTE=Waylon; 1299059]"Very demonstrative and not acting".

You should know by now Nic that that is a contradicion.[/QUOTE]No, I don't. English being my 3rd language.

How many languages do you speak?

[QUOTE=TConor;1299192]Any suggestion for action of any kind if I'm stuck overnight at or real near Suvarnabhumi Airport?[/QUOTE]Repeated question gets a repeated answer.

Don't bother staying there. Go to town. Nana is 30' (max 45' with traffic) cab drive away at a cost not over 300 baht.

Heaven will then open to you and you will not regret.

But first RTFF as it seems you didn't yet.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1299224]Indeed, Chinese "tourists" are a real pain-in-the-ass lot.

And this is not the only incident we had with groups of Chinese tourists: generally they are loud and show no respect. I really wonder if they act the same in their own country or whether they only do so when abroad.[/QUOTE]They misbehave everywhere, including their home country. Lining is an option for them. Quite rude behaviour, passing ahead of anybody with elbow movements. Worst experience I had when visiting The Great Wall in the neighbourhood of Bejing. They are also always very loud in their talkings. Discretion is not part of their DNA. Look when you go to a sauna in China and you are taken to rooms. Your moving around is announced by loud shouting from one guy to the other.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1299260]Just my opinion as a Chinese. And I like you a hypocrite (not being religious etc) or atheist I do go just to make the misses happy just like you? But I know many True Atheist and they never would venture into a temple even for pussy so I wouldn't consider you a Atheist but as Thai say " up to you "

LBM[/QUOTE]One can still visit churches, temples, mosques as part of his personal culture enrichment, regardless of his own belief or the fact there is some pussy along.

[QUOTE=Wendella;1299189]You seem to still be too busy with other things to share your long-ago-promised / never-delivered 'system'. [wink] I remember a while back, one guy came up with a detailed system for picking up on the internet, and he shared it here. You shot it down and said your system was better. We're still waiting for that.[/QUOTE]Well, you seemed to have read between the lines, I said my system was different and that my system yielded higher conversion.

But sorry your whole life depends on that report, I'll post it whenever I feel like it and now, I don't have the motivation to do so [wink]

I have shared my system with a Senior member here, one that I meet and know and I reckon he has had good success with it already.

To each their own.

The thing I said about the other dude's system was that his contact / sex ratio could never be higher than mine as he depends on volume (contacting many girls on a daily basis) and I focus on a much lower number but only girls I am really interested in.

Also, as the other dude was recommending, arrange a meet with the girl in a coffee shop, look from afar and if the girl is not nice, just take off. I find this highly unethical and disrespectful. If you like it, your call.

[quote=ehunter; 1299163]dr is a great place to go for the money, but like anywhere, there are caveats. to be successful in the dr you have to be wise to their hustle so am able to eliminate the games involving money / service just because i am language fluent. in thailand i am not expecting the same. i have no idea what level of hustle is pulled so you guys can help me out there too if you please.

in the dr you have to be careful with your hotel allowing one or more girls with you, every night, that are dressed like complete hos with a ho personality to boot. what are things like in thailand? if a girl comes to the hotel with you looking like a complete ho, are they going to let her in with me? qualifying dr hotels will cost you $60night for one of the nicer places with security. the security in the dr will confirep001e the girls i'd and give it back to her when she leaves and there have been no problems.[/quote]boy are you in for a pleasant surprise. compared to the dr there is 90% less bullshit or "hustle" as you call it in thailand and the pi. in bkk and pattaya the worst thing you have to be unguard for from a go go girl or massage girl is a starfish session. interview the girls before you take one. read her body language and treat her nice. it cuts down on this to almost zero. in ac the one big thing you might face from a bar girl is a runner type. one or two sessions and then at 2am she says she has to take care of granny or her kid. interview them well before you take them, treat them nice and this is not going to happen too often.

[quote=ehunter; 1299163]i kind of enjoy navigating the dominican hustle and i really don't know what to expect in asia. do they play all the same games that are played in south america? do you ever have to worry about getting ripped off or robbed? what is the pick-pocket scene like. nothing like copacabana or the dr i hope?[/quote]no games and only a very small chance of getting robbed from a go go bar girl. but prepare your room in advance and put your valuables in the safe or locked up in your suitcase. they may hit your wetbar, but so what. be a good guy and let them enjoy it. there is practicaly no bs in thailand of the type you are used to in the dr. imho there is no comparison between the dr and los period! thai girls are much better in looks, personality, and overall vibe. the girls of the philippines (ac = angeles city) are closer to what you are used to in the dr in terms of looks, but filipinas are the most gfe women in the world, so again ac is so much better than the dr, there is no comparison.

to justify the long and more expensive flight to asia, i recommend you plan at least a 3 week trip. spend a week in bkk, a week pattaya, and 5 days in ac / 2 days in manila. i assure you you won't give another thought to the dr.

some comments and prices:

ac girls come in 2 price points – 1500p lt and 3000plt depending on the bar and girl classification. the price is all inclusive. this is really a good deal considering all the loving you are going to get. the better hotels are a little pricey ($75 to $100 / night) , but there are plenty of cheaper alternatives. every place is girl friendly – multiple girl friendly! so have a party and take as many girls as you want back to your hotel room.

bkk (this is a great world class city so prices are on the high side. on the other hand, this is where you will find the most beautiful thai girls.)

bkk girls 1. go go's – 600bk bar fine plus 1500 – 2000bk for st / 3000bk lt depending on the girl. 2. oily massage parlors – around 2000bk inclusive for 2 hours porn star experience. read up on mango & snow white. 3. soapies – anywhere from 2000bk to 6000bk for 90 minutes depending on the place and the class of girl selected. this is the venue with the best looking girls. think classy men's club. there is a hotel glut and so hotels are very reasonable in bkk. all price ranges. make sure your hotel is girl friendly before booking.

pat – this place is the epic center for thai pussy. there are more girls here per square meter than anywhere else in the world. you have to see it to believe it!

girls are available at many price points. 1. walking street go go's – 600 – 1000bk bar fine and 1500bk – 2000bk st / 2500bk – 4000bk lt depending on the bar and the girl. top talent is here. 2. lk metro go go's – 600bk bar fine 1500bk st / 2500bk lt. soi 6 bars – 300 bar fine and charge for use of a room upstairs and 700 st. coconut bar (fl's on beach road) 500 - 700bk st / 1000bk to 1500bk max lt.

like bkk, there are many hotels to choose from at reasonable prices. make sure your hotel is girl friendly before booking.

manila is a damn good place too. there is lots of action. burgos st bars are the most expensive option – average is 4000p lt, but could go higher. edsa entertainment complex a little less, around 4000p lt. havana (greenbelt 3) fl's - 2000p lt. manila bay club fl's 1000p to 1500p max st / 2500p lt max. all hotels are gf.

i hope this helps. my main point is asia is going to blow you away. don't hesitate to come here. some guys who have been here a real long time get very picky. they forget what it felt like the first 10 times they visited asia. i assure you that you will love bangkok and everything it has to offer, you will be blown away by pattaya, and you will not believe ac and those friendly filipinas. you will kick yourself in the ass that you hung around the dr for so long when you could have been enjoying the real thing in asia.

one more thing, this being your first trip, i would try the all major venues of a particular destination you choose. for example, in bkk hit at least 4 go go's, at least one oily massage parlor and at least one soapy and see which type of venue and girl works best for you. ditto for pattaya; hit at least 5 walking street go go's, visit some soi 6 bars, check out the lk metro area, and take a walk down beach road. ac is pretty much a one horse town (like the wild west). there is basically only girly bars. a hundred or so. some are large show places others are smaller more intimate places. fields and perimeter are the same street. every bar on fields is easy walking distance. take a tuk tuk to the perimeter bars. rtff!

main thing – have fun.

[QUOTE=Bowerboy;1299255]For me the BEST service and best experience in Bangkok is in the massage places. Always has been and always will be. Its where you find the Thailand experience that you read about and the attitude is ALWAYS infinitely better.[/QUOTE]This reminds me of a time not too long ago when I was getting on the MTS, I entered the car and immediately.

Found my self standing next a real cutie. We exchanged pleasantries and I admired her nice tight body. I leaned in close enough to

Inhale her fragrance and look into her eyes, said something like I should go with you this afternoon. She replied "up to you"!

She works at EZ massage off of Soi 24 her name is Cat, she is not afraid to get cum on her or in her mouth.

A bit prior to this I met a cute little spinner down at On Nut BTS she was also a massage girl, both of these girls have provided better than average service.

I never have been a fan of going to a go go bar, Fucking overrated over priced bad attitude bitches, that have nothing over a chick that's really wanting.

Stand out amongst the crowd.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1299187]Indeed, it is one form of MP. You have the regular MPs with no hanky-panky allowed; you have the MPS that will give you a happy ending (HJ of BJ) ; the "oilies" that include FS (some of them even allowing multiple pops) and the "soapies" that have a bath routine including BBBJ and FS.[/QUOTE]There are two places I read about with multiple pops. They are the Devils Den and Eden. They are high on my interest list.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1299187]Speaking some Thai (even if it is limited to the general "sawadee khrap" greeting, but don't "wai" her) will help to create a better feeling. Asking her name and then calling her "[i]name[/i]-ja" ("ja" has the meaning of "lovely") from time to time, can do no harm too.[/QUOTE]Iam going to see if there is an app for my iPhone for a Rosetta stone or Sybervision language learning. It makes a huge difference in potential service. BTW-This raises another topic of cell phones. I have my US cell phone ATT plan and have no idea if Thailand travel will prompt ATT to rake me over the coals for using it there. What do mongers usually do from a smart phone perspective? It is somewhat important in the DR for off hours hook-ups / repeats with girls. I am guessing more-so in Thailand with the over abundance of girls. Trying to find that same girl would be like trying to find the needle in the haystack.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1299187]Most of the agogo girls change into t-shirt and jeans before coming with you and they look just like 90% of all the other girls on the street. Don't hold hands or kiss / hug her on the streets because that will certainly "mark" her as a SW. She will walk next to you or follow you to your hotel. Just like a regular Thai GF.

1000. 2000 baht / night will get you something nice and don't worry: your companion will not look like a hardcore ho. The "walk of shame" thing does not exist in Thailand, business as usual in most of the hotels.[/QUOTE]Great advice and am happy to hear this. I know about the Hotels Thread but it is full of posters banter. I was hoping to see there, a list of all the monger preferred hotels, having prices, pluses and minuses, website, etc. I maintain a list over on the DR threads (see post 237 on the Sosua Hotels threads). Having something like this saves tons of time deciding where to hotel-up with all the pluses / minuses that go with the different places.

My information is probably outdated. But I seem to remember talk of BJ bars where the beer drinking patron scoots his stool / chair / body further under the table. He then gets a BJ from girls crawling around under the tables which is completely out of everybodys vision. I thought this was Thailand. Does this kind of stuff exist?

[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1299208]In mainland China, the amount of money you have has an inverse relation with the amount of class you have, unlike most places elsewhere. And simply put, it is because the vast majority of wealth there is ill-gotten, and you cannot buy class. Which makes the the knowledge they were giving my girl the going-over all the more grating. (And as if those porkers aren't buying hookers in their homeland.)[/QUOTE]I know exactly what you are talking about.

Here in the US there is an in-flood of Chinese and I see exactly the same thing going on. I can be standing there a quarter step back from what I am looking at on a table, and the Chinese will squeeze in front of me so they can take a look as well, not realizing what I am looking at only to block 100% of my vision.

The same people when walking down a crowded area, I find myself sidestepping all the Chinese walking towards me like I am a pacman. If I consciously hold my ground I can get them to move so we don't collide. It is like I am playing a game of chicken.

Anyway, I think this is cultural, brought on by a country having too many people, and me being raised to be too-conscious / polite of other people around me.

I agree with your inverse relation theory. I see exactly the same thing here in the good-ole USA in areas of high Chinese population.

[QUOTE=TConor; 1299192]Any suggestion for action of any kind if I'm stuck overnight at or real near Suvarnabhumi Airport? [/QUOTE]I'm pretty much a new comer to this board, albeit a senior member on the brother site. If you happen to stuck over night or for a few hours there are two fishbowls off of King Kaeo road on the west side of the airport. One is called Miracles, not to be confused with hotel of the same name, the hotel about 2 KLM south on the same road.

Directly across the street from Miracles is a little place called Zone Karaoke Both have a decent selection of girls ranging in price from 1500 B to 2500 B. Don't be afraid to negotiate.

The

BTW King Kaeo is pronounced King COW

Be kind enough to post a report.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1299336]Boy are you in for a pleasant surprise. Compared to the DR there is 90% less bullshit or "hustle" as you call it in Thailand and the PI.[/QUOTE]GREAT POST Natty.

I have got to start organizing all this great information before I loose it.

[quote=ehunter;1299339]there are two places i read about with multiple pops. they are the devils den and eden. they are high on my interest list.[/quote]eden is more well known. if you rtf the forum you will get quite a bit of info on it.

[quote=ehunter;1299339]iam going to see if there is an app for my iphone for a rosetta stone or sybervision language learning. it makes a huge difference in potential service. btw-this raises another topic of cell phones. i have my us cell phone att plan and have no idea if thailand travel will prompt att to rake me over the coals for using it there. what do mongers usually do from a smart phone perspective? it is somewhat important in the dr for off hours hook-ups / repeats with girls. i am guessing more-so in thailand with the over abundance of girls. trying to find that same girl would be like trying to find the needle in the haystack.[/quote]if you have att from us have it unlocked and buy a local sim card. if you use att service be prepared to pay anywhere about$2-4 per minute incoming and outgoing. local sim lot cheaper and no charge for incoming.

[quote=ehunter;1299339]great advice and am happy to hear this. i know about the hotels thread but it is full of posters banter. i was hoping to see there, a list of all the monger preferred hotels, having prices, pluses and minuses, website, etc. i maintain a list over on the dr threads (see post 237 on the sosua hotels threads). having something like this saves tons of time deciding where to hotel-up with all the pluses / minuses that go with the different places.[/quote]hotels on sukhumvit are best for 1st time visitor. hotels in all price range from 1 star to 5 star.

[quote=ehunter;1299339]my information is probably outdated. but i seem to remember talk of bj bars where the beer drinking patron scoots his stool / chair / body further under the table. he then gets a bj from girls crawling around under the tables which is completely out of everybodys vision. i thought this was thailand. does this kind of stuff exist?[/quote]dr. bj, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and sol comes to mind. rtf for more info. never a fan of bj bars and you can only enjoy it if you put a paper bag over your head after being blindfolded.