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[QUOTE=SoapySmith;1916581]But if you necessarily avoid their social circles, how can you confirm that a particular woman is, in fact, upper middle-class, other than from what she chooses to tell you or show you? [/QUOTE]Serious man. Some of you guys act like it is your first time on earth. Language, conversation, manners, diet, teeth, clothing, accesories, setting and other people of their photos.
Hey guys,
I said buying drinks is a huge waste of time, I don't really care about the $7 a drink. Although $7 a drink and $70 a barfine in a country with an average monthly income of "$100" is bonkers! Do that same math in China and a girl will cost you $500. In America it would cost about $2,500. Do you see how silly these prices are in comparison to the location? It is value not price that is the real problem.
When the higher price is paid service will go down too because they only need 3 customers a month to live a normal life. The biggest problem for me when I get bad service is not the service. I can make her assume the dog style position and get my rocks off on any lazy or loose pussy. The problem is when the girl doesn't want to stay, or wants to rush, or sucks her teeth my ego gets beat up and no matter what happens next I feel bad even if I cum.
Some guys said higher price will improve quality. I say BS! Quality has went down dramatically in the Philippines, the families now use the ugly daughters to fleece dumb foreigners for their money and use the beautiful daughters for marrying higher class Filipino guys.
I doubt I will ever come back to AC. It is just not worth it anymore. I will leave all the broken and ugly ones so all of you can have them.
The last Scorebirds bikini contest only had 3 hot girls out of 20, number 2, number 10, and number 16. I already slept with all three on my last trip 4 months ago. Time to move on.
Please "big spenders" stop ruining the P4P markets all over the world. Do a little research and don't be a foolish jerk and overpay!
Master Monger. Disgusted and Distraught (First China, then Thailand, and now The Philippines. RIP).
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1916749]Serious man. Some of you guys act like it is your first time on earth. Language, conversation, manners, diet, teeth, clothing, accesories, setting and other people of their photos.[/QUOTE]Mr E,
Not as easy as that my friend.
One of the longest serving prostitutes of crystal palace bar who grew up in a children's home was taken off the scene, married and lives in London with a very good friend of mine, has been there about a year.
On a recent visit I almost never recognized her, business suit, beautifully made up, latest hair style, manicured nails, expensive shoes, handbag etc, she looked and acted a million dollars.
Out to dinner at Langans (very expensive London restaurant) she was ordering vintage wine like she was a wine professional, knew exactly what was what on the menu, knew more about London and current affairs there than even me.
Spend a little money, introduce to the finer things in life and that orphan who fucked her way through 1000's of guys in angeles looked and acted every bit the high society girl.
Never judge a book by its cover comes to mind.
[QUOTE=MasterMonger;1916824]Please "big spenders" stop ruining the P4P markets all over the world. Do a little research and don't be a foolish jerk and overpay![/QUOTE]You can't stop this, for several reasons:
1. Most mongers just don't read boards like this one.
2. Most don't care or even understand if they are spoiling the market. They apply this principle (and there's nothing wrong with this principle): [B]"The pussy here costs 1/4 what I usually pay in my country. OMG what a great value!"[/B] Not really, that is self-gratifying psychology of the uninformed; if the girl you paid 1/4 of your country's normal cost last night, would have gladly gone for 1/10 your normal cost, then you just overpaid her by a factor of 2. 5. This happens all the time, with many different products. How many times have I overpaid for other products in phils? Many. We overpay for the sake of convenience or to protect our ego. Ever see a guy get fleeced at a car dealership, and he's happy as hell, thinking he got a good deal (either uninformed about current car prices, or for convenience)? Or alternately, he just can't admit he got fleeced?
There are too many weekend warriors who drink and just want to get laid by a hottie *right now*. He doesn't care if he's overpaying. You might do the same thing for a stick of gum. Hence, the price of the girls increases disproportionally to the price of a McDo hamburger over time.
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1916844]Mr E,
Not as easy as that my friend.
One of the longest serving prostitutes of crystal palace bar who grew up in a children's home was taken off the scene, married and lives in London with a very good friend of mine, has been there about a year.[/QUOTE]But that is an extreme case. An outlier. 99.9% of people can not pull off a Frank Abagnale, Jr.
Kings Landing reopened last week as Again Lancelot. It's either Korean owned or new Korean partner. Somehow, it looks smaller inside. The center stage and seating as well as the seating on the right wall, (as you enter,) are gone. The stage is now up against that right wall. In the center are small individual couches and ottomans. There is NOT enough seating. Worse yet, the music is BOOMING! Yeah, it's a Korean Bar now. We were in and out. I'm not sure how this can succeed.
[QUOTE=MasterMonger;1916824]I can make her assume the dog style position and get my rocks off...The problem is when the girl doesn't want to stay, or wants to rush, or sucks her teeth my ego gets beat up and no matter what happens next I feel bad even if I cum.
Disgusted and Distraught (First China, then Thailand, and now The Philippines. RIP).[/QUOTE]You make her assume a position? Then, the problem is your ego gets no satisfaction. And wherever you go, afterwards the memory of the place is shit. Too bad for you. You only got what you played for.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;1916581]But if you necessarily avoid their social circles, how can you confirm that a particular woman is, in fact, upper middle-class, other than from what she chooses to tell you or show you? Since Pinays are not particularly good at keeping secrets, isn't there some risk that this affair she is having with a contraband Brit burns a hole in her tongue until she spits it out to some girlfriend?[/QUOTE]SS, If you have been here any length of time its almost impossible to NOT know these women. Yeah gossip is a problem but its far more likely to come from your door man, taxi driver, security guard etc. (Tip well, it helps a lot) Obviously some discretion is wise & sometimes its safer to turn down an offer than lose a big client etc. Better educated (upper class women) are smart enough to keep their mouths shut & choose wisely. Until you move in these circles you won't understand the difference.
AV.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1917165]SS, If you have been here any length of time its almost impossible to NOT know these women. Yeah gossip is a problem but its far more likely to come from your door man, taxi driver, security guard etc. (Tip well, it helps a lot) Obviously some discretion is wise & sometimes its safer to turn down an offer than lose a big client etc. Better educated (upper class women) are smart enough to keep their mouths shut & choose wisely. Until you move in these circles you won't understand the difference.
AV.[/QUOTE]Right you are AV. With no disrespect intended, I assume that most of the guys visiting here are 2-3 week warriors who just want to get laid as much as possible. Given that this objective is most easily achieved by visiting well known P4 P hangouts or utilizing the services of women advertising on social media, most visitors lack the opportunity to access the "non-monger" circles of Filipino society, let alone the more exclusive circles thereof. Nothing wrong with this, but I'm pretty sure that most visitors have neither the time nor the inclination to pursue a different sort of woman.
GE.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1916897]You can't stop this, for several reasons:
1. Most mongers just don't read boards like this one.
2. Most don't care or even understand if they are spoiling the market. They apply this principle (and there's nothing wrong with this principle): [B]"The pussy here costs 1/4 what I usually pay in my country. OMG what a great value!"[/B] Not really, that is self-gratifying psychology of the uninformed; if the girl you paid 1/4 of your country's normal cost last night, would have gladly gone for 1/10 your normal cost, then you just overpaid her by a factor of 2. 5. This happens all the time, with many different products. How many times have I overpaid for other products in phils? Many. We overpay for the sake of convenience or to protect our ego. Ever see a guy get fleeced at a car dealership, and he's happy as hell, thinking he got a good deal (either uninformed about current car prices, or for convenience)? Or alternately, he just can't admit he got fleeced?
There are too many weekend warriors who drink and just want to get laid by a hottie *right now*. He doesn't care if he's overpaying. You might do the same thing for a stick of gum. Hence, the price of the girls increases disproportionally to the price of a McDo hamburger over time.[/QUOTE]Indeed Westy, its the same all over the world with commercial sex. You appraise yourself of the going rates & you decide to partake or you do not. Simple. Hang wringing & crying into ones beer about whether somebody else paid / more less is pointless. We often hear about the {Insert Asian nationality of the week} driving up the prices but rarely do we hear about all the young gwapo fit as boxer AFP guys that the girls are thrilled to be in bed with or the lezzy girlfriends they have who get it walang bayad. No point wasting our lives worrying right? Meanwhile life outside the bars is very fine indeed.
AV.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1917172]Right you are AV. With no disrespect intended, I assume that most of the guys visiting here are 2-3 week warriors who just want to get laid as much as possible. Given that this objective is most easily achieved by visiting well known P4 P hangouts or utilizing the services of women advertising on social media, most visitors lack the opportunity to access the "non-monger" circles of Filipino society, let alone the more exclusive circles thereof. Nothing wrong with this, but I'm pretty sure that most visitors have neither the time nor the inclination to pursue a different sort of woman.
GE.[/QUOTE]Yes I understand, you're correct GE. I'm trying to stir up a new thread over in the dating sites section to update new folks on the best sites for pre contact these days. I have a lot of very fond memories of lovely girls from CB (Cherry Blossoms). Evey now and then an FAQ is needed to be posted to get new people up to speed.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;1917105]Kings Landing reopened last week as Again Lancelot. It's either Korean owned or new Korean partner. Somehow, it looks smaller inside. The center stage and seating as well as the seating on the right wall, (as you enter,) are gone. The stage is now up against that right wall. In the center are small individual couches and ottomans. There is NOT enough seating. Worse yet, the music is BOOMING! Yeah, it's a Korean Bar now. We were in and out. I'm not sure how this can succeed.[/QUOTE]It has changed format to cater to ROK customers. Big spenders on food / alcohol / cigarettes / ping pong balls etc in bar. From the girls point of view this is A Good Thing (TM). Plenty of other bars to suit different tastes.
AV.
[QUOTE=MasterMonger;1916824]Hey guys,
I said buying drinks is a huge waste of time, I don't really care about the $7 a drink. Although $7 a drink and $70 a barfine in a country with an average monthly income of "$100" is bonkers! Do that same math in China and a girl will cost you $500. In America it would cost about $2,500. Do you see how silly these prices are in comparison to the location? It is value not price that is the real problem.
When the higher price is paid service will go down too because they only need 3 customers a month to live a normal life. The biggest problem for me when I get bad service is not the service. I can make her assume the dog style position and get my rocks off on any lazy or loose pussy. The problem is when the girl doesn't want to stay, or wants to rush, or sucks her teeth my ego gets beat up and no matter what happens next I feel bad even if I cum.
Some guys said higher price will improve quality. I say BS! Quality has went down dramatically in the Philippines, the families now use the ugly daughters to fleece dumb foreigners for their money and use the beautiful daughters for marrying higher class Filipino guys.
I doubt I will ever come back to AC. It is just not worth it anymore. I will leave all the broken and ugly ones so all of you can have them.
The last Scorebirds bikini contest only had 3 hot girls out of 20, number 2, number 10, and number 16. I already slept with all three on my last trip 4 months ago. Time to move on.
Please "big spenders" stop ruining the P4P markets all over the world. Do a little research and don't be a foolish jerk and overpay!
Master Monger. Disgusted and Distraught (First China, then Thailand, and now The Philippines. RIP).[/QUOTE]I like most do not really care about your rants or views. I am sure most do not care about my views either, therefore I will keep it short.
[QUOTE=Amavida;1917187]Yes I understand, you're correct GE. I'm trying to stir up a new thread over in the dating sites section to update new folks on the best sites for pre contact these days. I have a lot of very fond memories of lovely girls from CB (Cherry Blossoms). Evey now and then an FAQ is needed to be posted to get new people up to speed.[/QUOTE]A good idea. Why not start the thread? I have a friend whose alternative approach may also appeal to some, though his approach requires fairly frequent visits. He's big on threesomes, so much of the time, he will ask a girl with whom he's been before to bring a friend whose picture he has vetted. Once he's met the friend, he gets her number, invites her back but requests that she too bring a friend. He's been at this for a few years and he's now got so many names on his growing list that his greatest difficulty is deciding which girls he wants to see. By this time, all girls on the list are students who don't mind picking up extra money.
GE.
Quick question. I'll be in AC for a couple of days. If I were to fancy a three- or foursome in the style of Bangkok's Eden club (girl on girl activity), what pub / club would you recommend?
I promise I'll post a report if things play out right.