Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=Sperto;2238189]This advice made me laugh. Imagine some newbies really believing in you, that any typical brazilian chick is for sale, and starts to ask random girls on the street if they are for sale. They will get beaten up badly and propably end up in jail.

I remember four gringos in Arraial d'Ajuda in the nineties. They were a bunch of drunk a-holes with no knowledge of portuguese. They really thought that all brazilian girls were for sale. The only thing they could say in portuguese was "vinte e cinco reais". They approached random girls on the street and repeated "vinte e cinco reais" several times. They got beaten up by both guys and girls, they got mugged and also had a break-in in the house they rented. They did had some success with their "vinte e cinco reais"-strategy, but only with the village putas.[/QUOTE]Yes. While some advice here is just misinformation, others, if naively followed, could get you hurt. It is as if the posters have never actually been to Brazil and make things up in an attempt to impress the gullible.

For example, can't tell you how many times when Brazil is mentioned that guys go on and on about how all the women on the beach run around topless. I love to ask them exactly where they do that and they stutter, you know Brazil. Right, you mean the country where even mulatas prefer tan lines? That Brazil?

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;2238038]I do not think so. Maybe around 2010-2013 when Brazil Economy was good. But in 2018 with Brazil in Recession almost any girl is up for grabs ......................................[/QUOTE]I totally agree with Sperto here. Perhaps you have Brad Pitt looks with James Bond type suave but do not give newbies the impression that any Brazilian babe is up for grabs.

I remember a hilarious incident that happened to me decades ago when I first went to work in a small Caribbean island called Trinidad. I entered a collectivo type taxi and sat next to a hot local chick in a mini skirt with her lovely legs exposed. I immediately propositioned her thinking she would respond favorably to a well dressed foreigner. She loudly and quite effectively put me in my place for every one in the full vehicle to hear, telling me who do I think I am, etc. , etc. I was humiliated and got some harsh looks from others in the taxi. The young 20 year old Turgid certainly learnt a valuable lesson that day to try to be a little more respectful in future to all women, abroad and at home.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2238382]I totally agree with Sperto here. Perhaps you have Brad Pitt looks with James Bond type suave but do not give newbies the impression that any Brazilian babe is up for grabs.

I remember a hilarious incident that happened to me decades ago when I first went to work in a small Caribbean island called Trinidad. I entered a collectivo type taxi and sat next to a hot local chick in a mini skirt with her lovely legs exposed. I immediately propositioned her thinking she would respond favorably to a well dressed foreigner. She loudly and quite effectively put me in my place for every one in the full vehicle to hear, telling me who do I think I am, etc. , etc. I was humiliated and got some harsh looks from others in the taxi. The young 20 year old Turgid certainly learnt a valuable lesson that day to try to be a little more respectful in future to all women, abroad and at home.[/QUOTE]In Life its all about your approach at the end of the day. If you walk up to typical Non-Pros Girl and offer them money for sex. Most are going to be offended because most non-pros don't want to be labeled a working girl or a prostitute. That is the reason why I say its easier to just hire a Brazilian female scout and have them find females for you. It's just like when I had sex with the funk singer. Lets say I tried to offer her money right after she finished her show performance like a typical gringo? She would turn me down and tell me to go fuck myself.

But since I got another female to set things up and everything was private and not out in the public open where people are watching, Its easier for her to agree to my offer.

Again I know I'm contradicting yourself when I say its all about the money, But its also about approach. Its like a car sales men, You can't use the same tactic on the same person. Everyone is different. You can achieve the same result at the end of the day but its all about your approach.

You just have to understand basic human physiology and ego. Its the same thing with men. Some men will spend $100-$1000 thousands of dollars on Dinner, Dates and Gifts on dating women, but will not spend $150 on a working girl. The Reason? Its ego, most of them don't want to be labeled a John. Even though your paying for it directly or indirectly.

So with that being said. Right now in Brazil is a major recession right now. Everybody is struggling and Yes most girls can be available for money. Again I'm not saying just walk up to any girl and offer her money. Again like I said before you have to deal with human ego.

Some you can't be so blunt and direct. If you know Portuguese offer them dinner, and if you want to use my method, Just hire a Brazilian female scout. I personally find that when I get a female to do the work, I have over 90% success rate. Just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2238382]I totally agree with Sperto here. Perhaps you have Brad Pitt looks with James Bond type suave but do not give newbies the impression that any Brazilian babe is up for grabs.

I remember a hilarious incident that happened to me decades ago when I first went to work in a small Caribbean island called Trinidad. I entered a collectivo type taxi and sat next to a hot local chick in a mini skirt with her lovely legs exposed. I immediately propositioned her thinking she would respond favorably to a well dressed foreigner. She loudly and quite effectively put me in my place for every one in the full vehicle to hear, telling me who do I think I am, etc. , etc. I was humiliated and got some harsh looks from others in the taxi. The young 20 year old Turgid certainly learnt a valuable lesson that day to try to be a little more respectful in future to all women, abroad and at home.[/QUOTE]Brilliant.

[QUOTE=Kcrl02;2238220]Typically, when I go out I only speak Portuguese and I avoid Americans like the plague. [/QUOTE]No worries; I could care less about you too!

[QUOTE=TomJackin;2238485]No worries; I could care less about you too![/QUOTE]My sentiments exactly! Your ass has probably never been out of the USA!

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;2238398]That is the reason why I say its easier to just hire a Brazilian female scout and have them find females for you... Right now in Brazil is a major recession right now. Everybody is struggling and Yes most girls can be available for money.[/QUOTE]That makes sense. Assuming any typical Brazilian chick is for sale. If you let somebody else do the approach you don't risk to get beaten up by offended girls or their friends. You can hide behind a female scout.

If somebody really wants to try your strategy they should know that prostitution in Brazil isn't illegal, but pimping/rufianismo is.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;2238398] That is the reason why I say its easier to just hire a Brazilian female scout and have them find females for you.[/QUOTE]NOTE:

In 1890, the Penal Code of Brazil penalized pimping (the activity performed by someone who manages the relationship between prostitute and client). Brazilian law criminalizes any third party who profits from the transaction, whether they are an abusive pimp, brothel owner, or private bodyguard.

I'm think twice about the "hiring" a female scout thing. Get yourself a reliable Brasiliero wingman / or not, hang out and just go with the flow. And have plenty of $$ IMHO.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2238588]That makes sense. Assuming any typical brazilian chick is for sale. If you let somebody else do the approach you don't risk to get beaten up by offended girls or their friends. You can hide behind a female scout.

If somebody really wants to try your strategy they should know that prostitution in Brazil isn't illegal, but pimping/rufianismo is.[/QUOTE]Yeah, if memory serves me there was the case of girls, a gringo, a boat and the Federal Police. But hey, who are we to question a guy who has mastered Google search and committed every word in the self-published Foreign Girls are Easy to memory.

[QUOTE=Kcrl02;2238220]the ignorance of the average gringo is appalling. These assholes (especially Americans) think every woman in Brasil is selling their pussy and is dying to hook up with a gringo. Quite, the opposite. Typically, when I go out I only speak Portuguese and I avoid Americans like the plague. When in actuality the majority of these women I meet & work with are usually doctors, lawyers, bankers, stockbrokers, IT types, engineers, scientists, accountants, Ph. The. University professors & MBA businesswomen working for Fortune 500 firms. Many have their own businesses and they're not just beauty & nail salons either. They drive BMWs, Benzes, Jeeps, & Land Rovers. Their homes are in the most exclusive gated communities (Alphaville, for example). Several have been educated at Stanford, MIT, UCLA, Oxford & the Sorbonne. Many attended the US schools on volleyball & football (soccer) athletic scholarships. On average they'll probably speak 2-3 different languages. [/QUOTE]Yes women like that are what we consider upper class Brazilians. Of course they are not crazy to hook up with a gringo. In Brazil, doctors, lawyers, bankers, etc. Are considered rich, They have a good paying job and are well off. They don't care about Gringos. We are not talking about well off women.

Why do you think Gringos monger in places like Thailand and the Philippines and not South Korea or Singapore. Because the average South Korean women have a high standard of living, So if your the typical average gringo, your not going to get love in South Korea like that when you compare.

Places like Thailand where there is little to no opportunities. So Women are more willing to hook up with Gringos. When I talk about hooking up with Non-Pros in Brazil, I'm talking about the average to poor female. She is willing to sell her hole. I'm not talking about StockBrokers or bankers in Brazil.

If you want to get with a upper class Brazilian, Your going to need good old fashion game and your going to need to know Portuguese. Most guys that travel to Brazil are on vacation and they usually stay 1-2 weeks max.

So who wants to waste there time chasing well off upper class women that your almost never going to see again. Its one of the main reason why upper class women that are looking for relationships don't care for gringos because they know your not going to be in Brazil very long anyway.

Tomjaackin is one of the absolute best trip reporters on this entire site, especially when it comes to coverage of Latin America. So for anybody to question that is laughable. Check out the Reports of Distinction for Latin American destinations, and you will find plenty of his field reports in there. Keep up the good work my man! Those of us in the know appreciate it.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;2238747]Places like Thailand where there is little to no opportunities. So Women are more willing to hook up with Gringos.[/QUOTE]Actually there are plenty of opportunities in Thailand. It is just that many people are lazy, and like most prostitutes they get into it for the fast and easy money. A friend of mine was going on maternity leave in Pattaya at the end of last year. She wanted me to find someone to fill her space while she was gone. She makes $858 per month as a receptionist at the mom and pop hotel she works in. I could not find anyone for that job because nobody wanted to come to work and be on a schedule like that everyday when they can just fuck a foreigner for a couple of hours and get $30 - $100. There is nobody in Pattaya that has a problem getting a job and I have never heard a Thai say they can not find a job. There are always help wanted signs up everywhere.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2238804]There is nobody in Pattaya that has a problem getting a job and I have never heard a Thai say they can not find a job. There are always help wanted signs up everywhere.[/QUOTE]Forgot to include my google stats:

Unemployment Rate in Thailand averaged 1.43 percent from 2001 until 2018, reaching an all time high of 5.73 percent in January of 2001 and a record low of 0.39 percent in November of 2012.

Looking back at this discussion of approaching non-pros, keep in mind Brazilian girls generally like flirtation. The problem is many of you have no game at all. If you have no game back home, you likely don't have any game in Brazil. I'm not saying you have to be young and handsome. You just have to know how to start a conversation with an attractive female without looking and drooling with monger eyes.

The girls who aren't interested will take the flirtation as a compliment and let you down politely. The girls who are open to foreign connections and some side money will also appreciate that you are treating them as a regular, attractive woman with respect.

I've had a number of mongers reach out to me to find out what I did to try and take advantage of the high conversation rate 2 months ago. The truth is, I missed out on it. I think it was like 4. 25 R when I was desperately trying to figure out how I could convert my dollars into reais for my 2 future tips to Brasil. All reports I had seen were saying that if Bolsanerio won the election that the real would become much stronger and the rate would plummet.

1) I went to my Bank of America and Citibank and the best they could do at the time 3. 70 R, o matter howmuch I complained that it was almost 60 cents off the international rate, they couldn't do anything for me. Take it or leave it was the attitude.

2) I thought about sending it to a friend who lived in Rio and have them convert it for me. Western Union also had a shitty rate so that was a no go.

3) I was gett8 ing more and more upset ecause the rate was falling everyday and nobody could give me a good way to get the reais at a good rate.

4) I found out that an ex-help girl that I knew was going back to Brasil in October to see her family so I wired the money to her account and she wired it to her brasilian bank account.

5) She absolutely refused to carry the money on her person to brasil because she said that Rio is very dangerous and she was nervous to walk around with that mush money in case she got robbed. (I begged her to take the cash because I knew she would get a better rate at the cambios but she wasnt having it).

6) she ended up getting 3. 75 R at her bank so basically I was fucked out of about 3600 reais! Trust me when I say I was angry as hell that there was nothing I could do about it. It is very frustrating when I think about all the fun I could have had in Rio with the extra 1000 dollars in my pocket, that is a lot of fucking and partying that got pissed away in the rain!!

I am headed down to Rio in a couple of weeks, I know I will have a great time. I just have stop reminding myself of all the money I could have had in my pocket if there had been an easy / fair way to convert those dollars when the rate was super high.