German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=TheCane;2544009]What I want to know is if the clubs will try to gouge mongers by raising prices on things like entrance fees, beer and drinks, and for anything else that they think they can get away with. They better be careful not to get greedy. I want to go to Germany again, but I won't if I don't like the results of my cost-benefit analysis. Other mongers could decide the same. Then, there are others who will return no matter what.[/QUOTE]You can go to Brazil as an alternative option, but things are as worst or even worst than Europe, so it will take awhile to normalize for flying mongers! What intrigue me is there are some clubs let say like Palace which has been closed since last March or last spring till now and no word! So I wonder if they are still ok to stand after corona! There won't be shut down I think, but I reckon there could be new ownership!

[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2543997]Haven't been to the restaurant in Oase for a long while. They used to have great pizza.

My guess would be that the big FKKs will open at first opportunity they get. Question is how many girls will be there from the start, but I guess they will show up rather quickly.[/QUOTE]They were not allowed to reopen on 2020 and Germany is in worst situation now, with extended lockdown.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2543817]I think travel will open up for vaccinated people. I only worry that the UK government will mess the vaccine passport up. I also hope they will not introduce a 5,000 fee for holidaying abroad this summer, unless you have a second house abroad. Sounds crazy only to write it down! I have a flight booked for September and I would be very disappointed if it gets cancelled.[/QUOTE]The thing about the fine is that the amount effectively prevents ordinary people from travelling but won't deter a Canary Wharf VP or Bullingdon Club members.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2543817]I think travel will open up for vaccinated people. I only worry that the UK government will mess the vaccine passport up. I also hope they will not introduce a 5,000 fee for holidaying abroad this summer, unless you have a second house abroad. Sounds crazy only to write it down! I have a flight booked for September and I would be very disappointed if it gets cancelled.[/QUOTE]So having the vaccine passport seems to be the ultimate solution. Strange that you consider that the people who got vaccine will not get the covid and second that they can't transmit the covid to others. Vaccines don't prevent you get the covid just seem to prevent you to be intubated and under ventilators, which doesn't mean at all that you will not be seriously ill and that you can need weeks or even months to recover.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2543966]I am not against prostitution but I don't believe that it is a great achievement for men (including myself) to be obliged to pay for having sex with girls. Also it is not a great performance for the girls to be a prostitute. In a FKK a girls learns nothing except fucking and sucking which is not having a great value on the job market.[/QUOTE]Do you monger? If not then the only reason you are on ISG is to deter others from pursuing that beautiful hobby. Am I wrong?

[QUOTE=MrHo;2544052]You can go to Brazil as an alternative option, but things are as worst or even worst than Europe, so it will take awhile to normalize for flying mongers! What intrigue me is there are some clubs let say like Palace which has been closed since last March or last spring till now and no word! So I wonder if they are still ok to stand after corona! There won't be shut down I think, but I reckon there could be new ownership![/QUOTE]I won't be setting foot in Brazil anytime soon. They simply aren't managing the COVID outbreak there effectively. Now, we can hope that when all of this is over, things will look as they were before, but we have to be realistic and know they won't be. Here many businesses have already closed their doors for good, or they have announced they will be closing. And more is to come. After a year, these businesses simply can't go on with shutdowns and capacity restrictions. FKK businesses are not immune. Some will survive. Some won't. I just hope that a high percentage of my favorite clubs make it. That's the best I can hope for. That's the best all of us can hope for. Expecting all to be as it was is pure folly.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2544216]Do you monger? If not then the only reason you are on ISG is to deter others from pursuing that beautiful hobby. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]May be I mongered more than you, 1000+ girls in 10 years, more than 200 escorts mostly in Germany never less than 3 hours but usually overnight, I spent in average 5000 Euros+ per month for prostitutes, when I visit a FKK my daily budget is 1000 euros I should say was but in the recent years it was very difficult for me to spend my money, as you are may be aware I only go with young, fresh, natural beauties, no sili, tattoos, no smoking.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2544216]Do you monger? If not then the only reason you are on ISG is to deter others from pursuing that beautiful hobby. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]A girl doesn't work in a sauna club to learn new abilities, a girl does it to make money. What she does after is none of the customer's business.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2544161]So having the vaccine passport seems to be the ultimate solution. Strange that you consider that the people who got vaccine will not get the covid and second that they can't transmit the covid to others. Vaccines don't prevent you get the covid just seem to prevent you to be intubated and under ventilators, which doesn't mean at all that you will not be seriously ill and that you can need weeks or even months to recover.[/QUOTE]First studies are coming out that transmission rates are reduced significantly for vaccinated people.

The reason people are told to still use masks is that you can't put a stamp on the forehead of the vaccinated people to identify them easily.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2543966]I am not against prostitution but I don't believe that it is a great achievement for men (including myself) to be obliged to pay for having sex with girls. Also it is not a great performance for the girls to be a prostitute. In a FKK a girls learns nothing except fucking and sucking which is not having a great value on the job market.[/QUOTE]Nobody says it is a great achievement for men to pay for sex. The FKK model makes it easy, convenient, relatively cheap, quick, no consequences way to have sex with every time a different 22 year old nine or ten.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2544252]First studies are coming out that transmission rates are reduced significantly for vaccinated people.

The reason people are told to still use masks is that you can't put a stamp on the forehead of the vaccinated people to identify them easily.[/QUOTE]Told him that months ago. But you can't expect someone to integrate new knowledge and formulate new views if their goal is only to prove their own beliefs rather.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2544252]First studies are coming out that transmission rates are reduced significantly for vaccinated people.

The reason people are told to still use masks is that you can't put a stamp on the forehead of the vaccinated people to identify them easily.[/QUOTE]Waiting, nobody knows today the efficiency of the vaccines and the possible side effects. You seem to believe that vaccines are the only solution may be may be not, let us be a little bit modest, we have to wait how the things will evaluate in Israel in the coming months, it is too early.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2544219]I won't be setting foot in Brazil anytime soon. They simply aren't managing the COVID outbreak there effectively. Now, we can hope that when all of this is over, things will look as they were before, but we have to be realistic and know they won't be. Here many businesses have already closed their doors for good, or they have announced they will be closing. And more is to come. After a year, these businesses simply can't go on with shutdowns and capacity restrictions. FKK businesses are not immune. Some will survive. Some won't. I just hope that a high percentage of my favorite clubs make it. That's the best I can hope for. That's the best all of us can hope for. Expecting all to be as it was is pure folly.[/QUOTE]Last year, I mentioned jokingly that in 2021, we will be saying in 2022 for mongering, but it is becoming a bit of the reality for some of us mongers LOL!

Yes, this pandemic did not just killed people directly, but I think there are more indirect death due to their business has been forced to closed and losing jobs to support themselves etc! However, from mongers stand point, will this hit on economy improve the quality of line up in long run at FKK?

As for surviving of the FKK, I think they will remain as they are, but could be with new owners as old owner has to sell it due to the shutdown! So we will see if it is for good or not because these FKK venues are license business and too lucrative to just close it down, so there will be investors who want to buy off for reasonable price!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2544009]What I want to know is if the clubs will try to gouge mongers by raising prices on things like entrance fees, beer and drinks, and for anything else that they think they can get away with. They better be careful not to get greedy. I want to go to Germany again, but I won't if I don't like the results of my cost-benefit analysis. Other mongers could decide the same. Then, there are others who will return no matter what.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing they will take the price up a notch, but probably not to the point where they lose to many customer, they need us back there.

And probably the girls will take it up a bit too, if demand is higher than supply. But once all the foreign girls are back in full force, that probably won't persist.

Or I could be wrong and they will just be so desparate for customers, price will be same and entrance discounted.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2544105]They were not allowed to reopen on 2020 and Germany is in worst situation now, with extended lockdown.[/QUOTE]Yeah it will take several months before this can even be on the table. But I'm still thinking during summer, perhaps July.