Angeles City

Hello everyone!

I was thinking to go AC, I'd go from Europe, it seems that a lot of people go first Manila and then ride by road to AC, but I've seen that the flights bound for Clark don't cost much more than to Manila, besides the cost of the ride. Then my question. Worth flying bound for Manila?

On the other hand. I've seen some videos of clubs in AC where the bar girls mimes to indicate that they swallow, I'd like to know if they really swallow or it's only a way to call attention. , Other thing. If the best girls in AC are rejecting western guys. Maybe should I go better to Pattaya? Or. Other place in the area?

All answers and advice will be appreciated.

Regards.

[QUOTE=CRamsey;1925037]Hello everyone!

I was thinking to go AC, I'd go from Europe, it seems that a lot of people go first Manila and then ride by road to AC, but I've seen that the flights bound for Clark don't cost much more than to Manila, besides the cost of the ride. Then my question. Worth flying bound for Manila?

On the other hand. I've seen some videos of clubs in AC where the bar girls mimes to indicate that they swallow, I'd like to know if they really swallow or it's only a way to call attention. , Other thing. If the best girls in AC are rejecting western guys. Maybe should I go better to Pattaya? Or. Other place in the area?

All answers and advice will be appreciated.

Regards.[/QUOTE]It does make sense to fly into Manila first as you will have much more flight options, and why not spend at least 2 nights checking out the bars on Burgos St. Or Havana cafe? You will have much less choices flying to Clark Airport. Looking just a few minutes ago online, I saw flights from Charles de Gaulle Airport in Paris during Novermber for only 395 pounds or 465 euros with short flying times. The airlines was Air China and has 1 stop in Hong Kong, with total flight time of about 16 hours on the outbound and 20 hours on the return. Of course, prices will vary depending on what month you depart and where in Europe you are. You can get Uber from Makati to AC for about 1500 to 1800 pesos, or negotiate with a taxi for about 2 k pesos. There are always a few taxi drivers that look for passengers going to AC, they can be found in across the street from the Best Western Oxford and in front of Dimples Bar. Happy Hunting in the Philippines, you will love it. Make sure to spend more time in AC, and if you do go to Makati, its best from Thursday to Saturday, so would land on those days if possible and then hit AC.

[QUOTE=Socker;1924990]I was there last April and everyday was excellent. I did knock my expectations for hotties down mainly because there are not a lot of really beautiful women there. Anyone who says there are 9's and 10's in AC needs glasses. An 80 year old monger thinks they're all 10's so there is a subjectivity based on who's doing the rating.

I think the TR above is an aberration and it's too bad because the guy sounds like a real nice guy. The majority of TRs on AC are of guys having a lot of fun. There is a timing aspect of mongering in AC, certain times during the year dancers will return home. And sometimes a monger will visit when the rotation of dancers isn't that strong.

I find that modern AC is full of 6's or less, maybe 10 percent of the women working the bars are really cute or good looking. They are harder to bar fine because they have multiple offers per shift so if you are not attractive to them for one reason or the other they will find a way to say they can't. This happens to everyone except a minority of mongers. I am sure even the K dudes are politely declined sometimes but in general they have the inside track w / the prettiest AC has to offer.

If you want the best lookers w / out any excuses I find Burgos Street to be the best place. It is expensive but the bars on Burgos treat everyone the same, the ladies there will never say K only.

As for mongering in AC, BKK, Patts, if you don't look good to the hot ones they are going to say no. Water seeks its own level, that's what I find myself doing and there are a lot of really cute 6's in AC.

I won't bother posting the proof. Westie is the only one who appreciates my photos. Good luck Shrek.

I am not really this harsh but the obsession w / their phones I take a hard line with. I don't need their full attention every minute we're together. I enjoy the company of AC bar girls, it's a great place to have some easy going fun.[/QUOTE]I think this is a very good post from Socker. Don't go to AC expecting to find a bunch of 7's, 8's, and 9's. You must lower your expectations somewhat but realize you have so many other good variables such as price, quantity of girls and ease of getting laid, ability to go to tons of bars here. I would add that I don't know of other cities in Asia that don't also have their share of 5's, 6's, and 7's. Thailand is filled with tons of older massage girls, mediocre girls, etc as well although you can find more 7's and 8's than you would in AC but not by a longshot. Just my opinion. I think South America (Colombia, Costa Rica, Brazil) has better quality women than AC but are nowhere near as fun as Philippines or Thailand due to fewer women, higher prices, less nightlife options, etc.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1924668]Very good and truthful post, exactly what I and so many others reporting on most Angeles based monger boards are finding.[/QUOTE]

Totally disagree that you imply AC is going downhill. If this is case, where is the "golden land" city in the world filled with young, beautiful, good attitude women if AC is so terrible? You seem to be so jaded with AC, yet you manage to make it your primary hub for mongering, therefore your remarks about this city make me skeptical about your true opinion of it.
Lastly, if my list of bars and restaurants is not accurate, share your wisdom please with the board where the best AC bars and restaurants are ? I did like your post regarding recommending having a Facebook account and linking with the bar girls, I never thought of this.
AC is still one of the top 5 mongering destinations in the world hands down for our hobby although there is nothing to really do there besides that. Having read a lot on this forum and visited many cities for mongering, the consensus of this board is service is going downhill, prices up, etc.in most mongering cities when compared years ago thanks to the internet, spoiling of women, and cost of living adjustments.

The basic comp quality of smaller AC bars is Soi 6 bars. But then AC is much larger than Soi 6 with more bars and a lot more girls. I am very sure that I could find some sexy cute, accommodating girls in AC if I tore myself away from Makati and went looking for them and was willing to spend the right amount of money to get them. It would still be cheaper than an average night out on Burgos.

On the other hand, Soi 6 is a small street in Pattaya and when I usually do not find a girl to my liking on Soi 6, I can easily jump on a baht bus going down Beach Road and wind up in a Walking Street Go Go where the quality possibilities are better, but prices are 3 X as high.

The reason I like to travel around is because I enjoy girls of different Asian flavors (nationalities) and I know you can find quality all over. But don't let anybody fool you: 80% of the Pattaya Walking Street Go Go girls are 5's and 6's too just like AC only different. Its the top 15% of the girls that interest me whether I am in AC, Pat, Manila (yeah), BKK (yeah), or Jakarta (yeah). Cheap, high quality, Asian girls are getting rarer and rarer to find everywhere, but high quality still exists and that is the truth.

[QUOTE=CRamsey;1925037]Hello everyone!

I was thinking to go AC, I'd go from Europe, it seems that a lot of people go first Manila and then ride by road to AC, but I've seen that the flights bound for Clark don't cost much more than to Manila, besides the cost of the ride. Then my question. Worth flying bound for Manila?

On the other hand. I've seen some videos of clubs in AC where the bar girls mimes to indicate that they swallow, I'd like to know if they really swallow or it's only a way to call attention. , Other thing. If the best girls in AC are rejecting western guys. Maybe should I go better to Pattaya? Or. Other place in the area?

All answers and advice will be appreciated.

Regards.[/QUOTE]Emirates and Qatar take you to CRK / AC directly. Since you don't enlighten us where in Europe you live chances are you live close to an airport where EK or QR fly from. If this is the case you can make it with only stop in Dubai or Doha instead of travel first to Paris and then via somewhere in China or Hong Kong. You can maybe save a buck or two but that is because the more stops you have to make the cheaper the price will be (its not attractive for most people, that's why). More stops also increases chances your luggage ends up at a different location than you.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;1925075]Totally disagree that you imply AC is going downhill. If this is case, where is the "golden land" city in the world filled with young, beautiful, good attitude women if AC is so terrible? You seem to be so jaded with AC, yet you manage to make it your primary hub for mongering, therefore your remarks about this city make me skeptical about your true opinion of it.
Lastly, if my list of bars and restaurants is not accurate, share your wisdom please with the board where the best AC bars and restaurants are ? I did like your post regarding recommending having a Facebook account and linking with the bar girls, I never thought of this.
AC is still one of the top 5 mongering destinations in the world hands down for our hobby although there is nothing to really do there besides that. Having read a lot on this forum and visited many cities for mongering, the consensus of this board is service is going downhill, prices up, etc.in most mongering cities when compared years ago thanks to the internet, spoiling of women, and cost of living adjustments.[/QUOTE]Studbucket,

Everyone has their opinion and I am happy you find angeles to your taste.

But just because angeles is to your taste does not make it a good destination for others.

For me it is probably one of the worst destinations to find the type of girls I am attracted to, I am not interested in the slightest in 5, 6.7's, not even if they were paying me.

As I and so many have said I find the guys that like angeles like it for one reason and one reason alone, bareback sex, which is mainly only available in angeles and are willing to lower their girl looks, body shape considerably to be able to enjoy their goals.

As for naming good restaurants in angeles there are none, the food is just OK in a very few upmarket restaurants but at very high prices, the rest I would call not edible.

As for bars, probably only the dhg of bars have the type of girls I would choose and then there is only a tiny percentage of these type girls in each bar.

The problem with having so few attractive girls is that everyone likes and chases these few girls (especially the Koreans) which gives the girls the princess syndrome.

The way the drinks commissions are designed gives the girl almost 150 pesos per drink in commission so popular girls can earn many many drinks which equals large money all without having to fuck anyone, why would guys visit bars where the good looking girls do not often want to fuck for a living.

As for why do I visit angeles, well studbucket as you are a fairly new member and may have not seen my countless posts on why I travel to angeles, it has nothing to do with the availability of good food or willing stunners, I have a branch of my business there and also close family ties there, if not for both I can assure you angeles would be the last place on earth I would visit, years ago yes, angeles was a great destination, no reason to visit now unless one likes bareback IMHO.

As far as other Asian destinations that offer available good looking girls with no bullshit attached, excellent cheap food, a safer environment, many things to do in the day, much cheaper hotels etc then read the forums, its all there to read about.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1925081]The basic comp quality of smaller AC bars is Soi 6 bars. But then AC is much larger than Soi 6 with more bars and a lot more girls. I am very sure that I could find some sexy cute, accommodating girls in AC if I tore myself away from Makati and went looking for them and was willing to spend the right amount of money to get them. It would still be cheaper than an average night out on Burgos.

On the other hand, Soi 6 is a small street in Pattaya and when I usually do not find a girl to my liking on Soi 6, I can easily jump on a baht bus going down Beach Road and wind up in a Walking Street Go Go where the quality possibilities are better, but prices are 3 X as high.

The reason I like to travel around is because I enjoy girls of different Asian flavors (nationalities) and I know you can find quality all over. But don't let anybody fool you: 80% of the Pattaya Walking Street Go Go girls are 5's and 6's too just like AC only different. Its the top 15% of the girls that interest me whether I am in AC, Pat, Manila (yeah), BKK (yeah), or Jakarta (yeah). Cheap, high quality, Asian girls are getting rarer and rarer to find everywhere, but high quality still exists and that is the truth.[/QUOTE]Natty bro, AC is really separate from Thailand, like day and night. Manila, Cebu (IMO) can compete w / Thai gogo quality but not in the supply of quality. I've spent a fair number of weeks (recently) working Bangkok, Pattaya and even Udon Thani bars and everywhere I went 3 out of 4 sessions (or attempted sessions) the Thai ladies had too many fucking rules and in the gogos too arrogant to even look my way. Now I am 64 and maybe look 56 but their is discrimination on many fronts. If you're not K or J or if you're older, etc. Etc. You're out. No pretty pussy for you!

I am talking about the prettiest women whether they're in the Thermae or in Crazy House they are stuck up bitches for the most part. They have the power and they will do what they want and when they want to do it. There are time limits on the bar fine (2 hrs), there are hidden additional cost after you agree to bar fine as in extra LDs (Doll House, Soi Cowboy) and then the dancer's rules. No pics, even the most innocent selfie is a no no. Not even GFE in many cases w / mid tier gogo dancers!! The best looking dancers will not even look at me in Thailand. I'm not a bad looking guy either. No, they want an easy night w / a K or J that is happy just to get a peck on the cheek. And throws money around. They see me as a lot of work and what if I am. Today they are very sophisticated and able to pick and choose and now I'm not in their demographic LOL.

So you can compare Thailand w / Manila or Cebu and those cities are a drop in the bucket compared to BKK or Pattaya. The numbers are not close but the quality is in both countries. AC does not have anything close to Thailand in visual quality or Manila / Cebu for that matter.

AC is an island of no rules w / charming cute little women that are typical filipinas. They love to please men and that's what they know how to do, they are not jaded or spoiled. They will give you their company for as long as you want them (no rules) w / in reason of course. This kind of service is not available from their big city counterparts and it is certainly not available in Thailand w 70% of the dancers you might employ. There are exceptions in Thailand and you have more skill and patience than I but for the most part they will not be seeing my greenbacks too much, I much prefer a buyers market. So in my view there is no comparison w / AC and BKK / Pattaya etc.

Thailand has the highest percentage of beautiful women I have encountered anywhere but that just makes it more disappointing that I have to settle for the crumbs because it's a sellers market and the inmates (dancers) run the asylum. I wish the women there had half the heart the Filipinos have.

I'll be in AC in a couple of weeks and will post a TR. AC isn't perfect by any means but it fits my style of mongering so much more. I like to spend time w / my BF and have fun into the night, no clock, no rules except mine. I get all that and more in AC. Thank you God.

Cheers Bro, AC is different.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1925114]Studbucket,

Everyone has their opinion and I am happy you find angeles to your taste.

But just because angeles is to your taste does not make it a good destination for others.

For me it is probably one of the worst destinations to find the type of girls I am attracted to, I am not interested in the slightest in 5, 6.7's, not even if they were paying me.

As I and so many have said I find the guys that like angeles like it for one reason and one reason alone, bareback sex, which is mainly only available in angeles and are willing to lower their girl looks, body shape considerably to be able to enjoy their goals.


All the top notch girls in Thailand, Philippines, will be edgy and have princess syndrome due to Euros, Americans, Js and Ks spoiling them, sending them money, etc, but at the end of the day , they are just hookers selling their goods and I am the king.


The problem with having so few attractive girls is that everyone likes and chases these few girls (especially the Koreans) which gives the girls the princess syndrome.

As for why do I visit angeles, well studbucket as you are a fairly new member and may have not seen my countless posts on why I travel to angeles, it has nothing to do with the availability of good food or willing stunners, I have a branch of my business there and also close family ties there, if not for both I can assure you angeles would be the last place on earth I would visit, years ago yes, angeles was a great destination, no reason to visit now unless one likes bareback IMHO.



As far as other Asian destinations that offer available good looking girls with no bullshit attached, excellent cheap food, a safer environment, many things to do in the day, much cheaper hotels etc then read the forums, its all there to read about.[/QUOTE]Like Natty says if you have game, style, and weed through the masses (yes it is some work) in any city, you can find gems anywhere. And we (Natty and I) both agree that there are plenty of 5's, 6,s and 7 s in Thailand, Indonesia, and other mongering destinations in Asia.

Okay I respect your reason now and understand why you are in Angeles due to your business. I have my own successful business as well in the States yet I manage to travel to many destinations all over the world. I look at your past posts and all of them are in Angeles; so how can you say the forums, boards, are full of much better destinations when you have not been there? It does not make sense for you to be so authorative to compare AC to other destinations when you have been to so few apparently nor posted any reports on any other cities. I will leave the comparisons and value the opinions of those that have been to many other destinations, it is certainly not you or I yet.

Again, I've read all the posts on the mongering destinations and have been to the top ones, been there done that. Still don't agree, when you deal with hookers, you will get "bullshit attached", not just in AC. And as far as restaurants, yes I agree, AC has shitty choice of restaurants and food sucks. I only gave recommendations because if you had to pick your poison, those are the best of the worst.

Your thread about the Koreans spoiling the women is absolutely correct, but this has also happened in Thailand with the Japanese. Many other destinations have been ruined years ago by allowing the "inmates to run the assylum" (paying their high prices, spoiling them, buying them lady drinks, and not knowing where to draw the line.

Lastly, my friends and I are decent looking guys, we don't just go to AC for bareback sex. If I want to partake in bareback sex, believe me, I have no challenge getting it in Pattaya, Jakarta, and even Bangkok. I am a good looking successful guy in his late thirties, so I guess that helps.

Please, I am not trying to sell you on liking AC, I respect your opinion, but stop saying that all guys just go there for bareback sex; this is a ridiculous and somewhat offensive. Maybe for the cheap and easy factor, point and shoot aspect, yes. I don't have great challenges find gems here and coupled with the added bonus of price, service level, it's still one of the best destinations for me.

Peace Out

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1925114]Studbucket,

As I and so many have said I find the guys that like angeles like it for one reason and one reason alone, bareback sex, which is mainly only available in angeles and are willing to lower their girl looks, body shape considerably to be able to enjoy their goals.[/QUOTE]More fun from Napa. Barebacking is "mainly only available" in AC.

I guess you haven't been anywhere besides AC. That's too bad. Well I'll let you in on a little secret, no one's around so I can tell you, guys and gals are barebacking everywhere Napa. Yes, in Thailand, in the Philippines (Everywhere), in Mexico, in Colombia ETC! Even in Barcelona!

For the record I have never lowered my girl looks, but then I don't pretend I'm a girl. Next time when I dress up I put something lower on, just for you. How's that?

Man the prolific posters on this board (Napa) should get a clue before they help us less fortunate mongers out. Backdoor insults are uncool so live your own life and let us live ours w / out the irrational gibberish.

Okay?

Lets get back to current ground intel on AC. Napa, take a breather please.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1925114]Studbucket,

For me it is probably one of the worst destinations to find the type of girls I am attracted to, I am not interested in the slightest in 5, 6.7's, not even if they were paying me.[/QUOTE]Napa is right! Do not go to AC! There are just a bunch of skanks there.

I hate AC. Every time I visit it, lets me down. Every time. The food sucks, the infrastructure sucks, the whole city sucks. There are more and more girls with jolibellies, stanky pussies and flat asses. But, I'll be there again in Sept. Because the price is right and among all those jolibellies there will be some gems. The gems seem harder to get now. Seems like there are less and less of them every year I go back. Can't beat the communication. Sometimes, you want to talk to them. Nothing too deep though, I enjoy stories about their past antics with other mongers. Its like listening to reality TV. So I hate AC. Every time I tell myself, things will be better, they'll be new girls. Word will spread about proper hygiene and the right way to wear those bikini bottoms without it squeezing their butt cheeks together. I get there, bar hop, and yeah, I'll see a few 8-9's around. Those beautiful girls keep giving me the motivation to check out AC just one more time. After banging them I remember why I hate this place and fly out to Pattaya.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;1925163]Like Natty says if you have game, style, and weed through the masses (yes it is some work) in any city, you can find gems anywhere. And we (Natty and I) both agree that there are plenty of 5's, 6,s and 7 s in Thailand, Indonesia, and other mongering destinations in Asia.

Okay I respect your reason now and understand why you are in Angeles due to your business. I have my own successful business as well in the States yet I manage to travel to many destinations all over the world. I look at your past posts and all of them are in Angeles; so how can you say the forums, boards, are full of much better destinations when you have not been there? It does not make sense for you to be so authorative to compare AC to other destinations when you have been to so few apparently nor posted any reports on any other cities. I will leave the comparisons and value the opinions of those that have been to many other destinations, it is certainly not you or I yet.

Again, I've read all the posts on the mongering destinations and have been to the top ones, been there done that. Still don't agree, when you deal with hookers, you will get "bullshit attached", not just in AC. And as far as restaurants, yes I agree, AC has shitty choice of restaurants and food sucks. I only gave recommendations because if you had to pick your poison, those are the best of the worst.

Your thread about the Koreans spoiling the women is absolutely correct, but this has also happened in Thailand with the Japanese. Many other destinations have been ruined years ago by allowing the "inmates to run the assylum" (paying their high prices, spoiling them, buying them lady drinks, and not knowing where to draw the line.

Lastly, my friends and I are decent looking guys, we don't just go to AC for bareback sex. If I want to partake in bareback sex, believe me, I have no challenge getting it in Pattaya, Jakarta, and even Bangkok. I am a good looking successful guy in his late thirties, so I guess that helps.

Please, I am not trying to sell you on liking AC, I respect your opinion, but stop saying that all guys just go there for bareback sex; this is a ridiculous and somewhat offensive. Maybe for the cheap and easy factor, point and shoot aspect, yes. I don't have great challenges find gems here and coupled with the added bonus of price, service level, it's still one of the best destinations for me.

Peace Out[/QUOTE]Thanks for your input.

You obviously have not been a member of this board long enough or have not bothered to read some of my earlier trip reports and comments.

I not so long ago wrote a very long piece comparing angeles to pattaya, Bangkok, Jakarta, China, vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Burma, yes I have travelled and mongered in all these destinations so might know just a little.

I fully agree that if one is not fussy what one fucks or lowers his expectations considerably in angeles then girls can be had easily, its just not for me, and far inferior to many nearby destinations on so many counts.

As far as not so good looking girls in other destinations I fully agree not all girls are stunners but I would go on to say that even the best looking angeles girls would not have a chance of employment in bars outside of angeles.

As I said and many have agreed in the past a big % of angeles visitors / board members admit freely that if bareback sex were not available in angeles they would not visit, many of my own friend love angeles because of this 1 fact, it may not be your cup of tea but it is for a majority of guys.

You claim that you are a young, good looking, successful busness owner, I am then at a loss as to why you are travelling all the way to angeles city to fuck 5/6's at great cost when a guy like you should be able to get laid by 8/9's in his own country probably without payment, if it its because you like pinays then most countries have many young, good looking pinays working / living there a young good looking successful busness owner can tap into.

Maybe there is much more to the story you are not telling us.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;1925163]
Please, I am not trying to sell you on liking AC, I respect your opinion, but stop saying that all guys just go there for bareback sex; this is a ridiculous and somewhat offensive. Maybe for the cheap and easy factor, point and shoot aspect, yes. I don't have great challenges find gems here and coupled with the added bonus of price, service level, it's still one of the best destinations for me.

Peace Out[/QUOTE]Agree. I like the fact that they speak English and are really friendly and provide GFE, and you can swap out girls if they are not to your liking in bed with only a $50 USD penalty. If you want hotter girls you can go to Manila. I have been to both places and prefer AC for it's adult disneyland type atmosphere. To each his own.

[QUOTE=Sock111;1925224]I hate AC. Every time I visit it, lets me down. Every time. The food sucks, the infrastructure sucks, the whole city sucks. There are more and more girls with jolibellies, stanky pussies and flat asses. But, I'll be there again in Sept. Because the price is right and among all those jolibellies there will be some gems. The gems seem harder to get now. Seems like there are less and less of them every year I go back. Can't beat the communication. Sometimes, you want to talk to them. Nothing too deep though, I enjoy stories about their past antics with other mongers. Its like listening to reality TV. So I hate AC. Every time I tell myself, things will be better, they'll be new girls. Word will spread about proper hygiene and the right way to wear those bikini bottoms without it squeezing their butt cheeks together. I get there, bar hop, and yeah, I'll see a few 8-9's around. Those beautiful girls keep giving me the motivation to check out AC just one more time. After banging them I remember why I hate this place and fly out to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Unbelievable as it is nowadays it is cheaper to have short time Indian in UK than Pinay in Angeles. But this is result of all men paying without bargaining. Pinays are sweet till you know them and then they become so wrong in every level.

Perimeter bars although seedy still offer lot of fun.