FKK Palace - Frankfurt

[QUOTE=Samuraimaster]...1. I am an Asian from the Far East, Will Palace refuse entry on me ? Or have you guys seen any asian client around?[/QUOTE]No they will not refuse entry and yes, there are a lot of Asian clients.

[QUOTE=Samuraimaster]
2. Does the Palace girls discriminate against Asian man?
[/QUOTE]No

[QUOTE=Samuraimaster]
3. The payment is by cash to the girls I see here, how is it being done? It seems that they will follow you back to the locker room and the money is paid there after the deed?
[/QUOTE]Yes

[QUOTE=Samuraimaster]
4. I know this sounds funny..They are naked, where did they get all the condoms? Example you do it in the open area. Is it possible to carrry your own condom with you in the robe?[/QUOTE]The girls have condoms. They keep them in their purse. As to where they got them, I would guess they bought them :-)
You can bring your own condom if you like, but some girls might object and insist of using theirs (safety issue).

[QUOTE=Chivaz]
You can bring your own condom if you like, but some girls might object and insist of using theirs (safety issue).[/QUOTE]

Chivaz is right and this is an important point for me because I bring my own and they are the best I've found for me. The girls by and large have London brand condoms and they stink. Tell them in advance you want to use your condoms "because they are safe and feel better". London are just normal latex condoms, nothing special but a standard among the girls. I've gotten into sessions and girls been adamant to use London and that I should have asked before hand. Also, open them in front of the girls. You can carry them in robe pockets.

[QUOTE=Chicafan]You have sessioned quite a lot at Palace haven't you?
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Palace is open now for 3 years and 2 months. I must have had around 150 Palace visits up to now, so I do have sessioned quite a bit there. ;-)

[QUOTE=Chicafan]I'll clear it with them in advance but thanks again for the info. There are a lot of well-breasted girls at FKKs especially at Palace.[/QUOTE]

That's just the way to do it: Talk to the girls!

Hessen Bub

[QUOTE=Samuraimaster]Hi,

I had did a search on the thread and could not find any answer so I post them again:

1. I am an Asian from the Far East, Will Palace refuse entry on me ? Or have you guys seen any asian client around?

2. Does the Palace girls discriminate against Asian man?[/QUOTE]
You should do fine.

The only issue I'd worry about is being tagged as a newbie and therefore targeted for aggressive marketing, upselling or a scam which would consist of either short timing or over billing or the insidious "running up the clock" routine.

[QUOTE=Jackyo]The only issue I'd worry about is being tagged as a newbie and therefore targeted for aggressive marketing, upselling or a scam which would consist of either short timing or over billing or the insidious "running up the clock" routine.[/QUOTE]

Which is not an issue of being Asian, Kaukasian, African etc. This can happen to any newbie in any FKK-club. So relax, observe the girls, take your time and don't give in to the first girl approaching you.

Hessen Bub

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Which is not an issue of being Asian, Kaukasian, African etc. This can happen to any newbie in any FKK-club. So relax, observe the girls, take your time and don't give in to the first girl approaching you.

Hessen Bub[/QUOTE]
Any newbie at any club can be victimized this way.

I only brought this up because the dude asking this question is very clearly a newbie and also very clearly foreign (which makes it all the more likely to be a target particularly if he doesn't speak German).

There are ways to reduce the chances of this happening. Advice of this nature is sprinkled all over this forum.

I created a blacklist of women to watch out for at this particular club but have not had a chance to update it lately, unfortunately. I posted it sometime last fall in response to a flurry of bad reviews of specific girls to avoid at this club.

I will be in Paris next week and am wondering if any of you have suggestions for good fkk like spots in Paris, or are there any lives sex show clubs. I have heard there might be a good spot or two near saint-germain in the 6th arrondisement

Thanks

[quote=samuraimaster]hi,

i had did a search on the thread and could not find any answer so i post them again:

1. i am an asian from the far east, will palace refuse entry on me ? or have you guys seen any asian client around?

2. does the palace girls discriminate against asian man?

[/quote]

i'm an asian man who was at palace, oase, and world a few months ago and saw asian guys at each place. the girls won't exactly discriminate, but a few girls told me that a lot of girls don't like asian customers because they get a lot of customers from asia who don't speak english or german which makes it hard to communicate.

at each place, i was tagged as a newbie and was swarmed by romanians when i entered, but thanks to the advice on this forum i came out unrep001hed.

[quote=member #3346]i'm an asian man who was at palace, oase, and world a few months ago and saw asian guys at each place. the girls won't exactly discriminate, but a few girls told me that a lot of girls don't like asian customers because they get a lot of customers from asia who don't speak english or german which makes it hard to communicate.

at each place, i was tagged as a newbie and was swarmed by romanians when i entered, but thanks to the advice on this forum i came out unrep001hed.[/quote]
sign language and pidgin german or english will work sometimes but it can be frustrating and sometimes the women would much rather avoid the frustration.

this works both ways. if i don't think i'm going to have a an easy time communicating with her, i will pass and look for someone who i can communicate with.

not looking like you belong there immediately does tag you as foreign and most likely a newbie.

one point about the nrw clubs: there is a large japanese community in duesseldorf and the clubs in the area are used to dealing with japanese customers. i've seen them everywhere, most recently in goldentime where they were preyed upon immediately by german blondes.

glad that our advice to you on avoiding pitfalls helped, m3346.

does anyone know how to say: "no, thank you" in romanian? or maybe "i don't speak romanian"? or alternatively "buzz off, chick. i've got my eye on someone else"?

or how about signing her the lyrics from [b][i]dragostea din tei[/i][/b]?

[i]ma-ia-hii
ma-ia-huu
ma-ia-hoo
ma-ia-haha miya-hee
miya-hoo
miya-ho
miya-haha

alo, salut, sunt eu, un haiduc,
si te rog, iubirea mea, primeste fericirea.
alo, alo, sunt eu picasso,
ti-am dat beep, si sunt voinic,
dar sa stii nu-ti cer nimic.

vrei sa pleci dar nu ma, nu ma iei,
nu ma, nu ma iei, nu ma, nu ma, nu ma iei.
chipul tau si dragostea din tei,
mi-amintesc de ochii tai.

te sun, sa-ti spun, ce simt acum,
alo, iubirea mea, sunt eu, fericirea.
alo, alo, sunt iarasi eu, picasso,
ti-am dat beep, si sunt voinic,
dar sa stii nu-ti cer nimic. [/i]

this is the only romanian i know. something about love under a linden tree.

I don't need to know how to say "No, thank you!" or "Leave me alone!" in Romanian, I can communicate that in German, English oder French, or non-verbal. Much more important:

Saruta ma = Kiss me!

Te iu besc = I love you.

Hessen Bub

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]I don't need to know how to say "No, thank you!" or "Leave me alone!" in Romanian, I can communicate that in German, English oder French, or non-verbal. Much more important:

Saruta ma = Kiss me!

Te iu besc = I love you.

Hessen Bub[/QUOTE]
.. in my memory banks for when I do find a Romanian chick I'd like to be with!

Thanks!

I visited Palace on 4/26, my first time at a Frankfurt FKK club. It was around 16:30 when I entered the main lounge and sat at the bar. There were around 15 girls and about the same number of men. This Italian girl named Valentina (or Valencia) came up and started talking to me. She is about 5'4" with her 4-inch hi-heels on. She then leaned forward, started rubbing her hand on my shoulder and positioning her lips right in front of mine. I don't remember if I started sticking my tongue out first but the tip of our tongues touched lightly and briefly for 3 or 4 times. I then rubbed my left hand on on her shoulder, just trying to be friendly as I wasn't all that interested in her. I did not touch her anywhere else and we did not engage in DFK. When she asked if I would like to go into a room with her after a couple of minutes, I politely told her that I needed some time to settle in and may consider going with her later on. She then said that I had to either go in the room with her then or give her 25 Euro because I kissed her. I remembered from reading this forum before my trip to Palace that you're only committed if you let her give you BBBJ. I continued to politely tell her that I needed sometime to think about it but she insisted that all the girls in the club had already seen us kissed and I had to either go in the room with her or give her 25 Euro. On her suggestion, we went and talked to the "boss". She told the boss that I kissed and touched her and I told the boss that I only kissed her after she kissed me first and I just put my hand on her shoulder to be friendly. The boss sided with Valentina and said that I should've asked her to stop and not enjoyed the kissing if I wasn't interested. As I didn't want to make a scene and run the risk of being blacklisted by the girls or ejected from the club, I decided very quickly that I wasn't going to fight the battle and gave her 25 Euro and moved on.

I am wondering if any of you know that's the rule at Palace: kissing means committment? If it is, I think it is just bad business as it would make the customers much more cautious and less willing to "test drive" the girls, which translates to fewer deals made. If there is no such rule, then I would advise my fellow mongers to stear clear of this girl. Note that I did tell her that it was my first visit to Palace but I thought that I didn't act like I was nervous or uneasy in the club.

When you give 25 euro like this you make the Pallace even more unfriendly. We will get a situatin when girls run around and make money for just kissing in all directions. You should not have given her 25 euro!



[QUOTE=Pandaman]I visited Palace on 4/26, my first time at a Frankfurt FKK club. It was around 16:30 when I entered the main lounge and sat at the bar. There were around 15 girls and about the same number of men. This Italian girl named Valentina (or Valencia) came up and started talking to me. She is about 5'4" with her 4-inch hi-heels on. She then leaned forward, started rubbing her hand on my shoulder and positioning her lips right in front of mine. I don't remember if I started sticking my tongue out first but the tip of our tongues touched lightly and briefly for 3 or 4 times. I then rubbed my left hand on on her shoulder, just trying to be friendly as I wasn't all that interested in her. I did not touch her anywhere else and we did not engage in DFK. When she asked if I would like to go into a room with her after a couple of minutes, I politely told her that I needed some time to settle in and may consider going with her later on. She then said that I had to either go in the room with her then or give her 25 Euro because I kissed her. I remembered from reading this forum before my trip to Palace that you're only committed if you let her give you BBBJ. I continued to politely tell her that I needed sometime to think about it but she insisted that all the girls in the club had already seen us kissed and I had to either go in the room with her or give her 25 Euro. On her suggestion, we went and talked to the "boss". She told the boss that I kissed and touched her and I told the boss that I only kissed her after she kissed me first and I just put my hand on her shoulder to be friendly. The boss sided with Valentina and said that I should've asked her to stop and not enjoyed the kissing if I wasn't interested. As I didn't want to make a scene and run the risk of being blacklisted by the girls or ejected from the club, I decided very quickly that I wasn't going to fight the battle and gave her 25 Euro and moved on.

I am wondering if any of you know that's the rule at Palace: kissing means committment? If it is, I think it is just bad business as it would make the customers much more cautious and less willing to "test drive" the girls, which translates to fewer deals made. If there is no such rule, then I would advise my fellow mongers to stear clear of this girl. Note that I did tell her that it was my first visit to Palace but I thought that I didn't act like I was nervous or uneasy in the club.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dick1]When you give 25 euro like this you make the Pallace even more unfriendly. We will get a situatin when girls run around and make money for just kissing in all directions. You should not have given her 25 euro![/QUOTE]Again, I wasn't sure of the rule and the management did side with the girl. I would definitely hold my ground if I knew for sure that it was B.S. When I visited this club the 2nd time about a week later, I witnessed a dispute between a customer and a girl on payment and they called the police. While I was watching the whole thing unfolding, Valentina came up to me and asked if I remembered her and said that is what happen if customer doesn't pay up. I just ignored her and walked away.

Pandaman,

It sounds clear to me that you were taken advantage of. This is exactly what we are talking about when we say not to reveal it is your first time in a club. It is unfortunate, but it does happen, esp. to newbies who don't speak German or those who tend to feel a bit out of their element.

This girl Valentina, I know, for sure, is a bit of a shark. You should have figured this out. Perhaps you also should have made it a bit more emphatic that she initiated this, not you, and that it was not even full on DFK, but just some very superficial activity for a second or two. And that you did in fact terminate the activity by telling her you were not interesed (at the moment) to go to the room. You could have told the management that you wished to discuss the matter privately with them, not in the company of your accurser. Sometimes if your body language suggests you are unsure and unwilling to stand your ground, well...

Anyway, to answer your question head on: No, kissing, even DFK for a short time does NOT represent a committment to go to the room. Therefore, you were taken advantage of and you have legitimate grounds to complain, or even to avoid this club if you feel that bad about it...

This stuff about the police: it is bullshit that they would call in the polizei for something so trivial as a 25E dispute. There must have been alot more to this other incident to get the men in yellow/green involved.