Angeles City

Socker,

With respect I will disagree with a lot of your comments, here's why.

As you have stated you have only been going to angeles a short while and then only a few trips, all of your time has been through the devastating bar raid period, so basically you have no idea what angeles was before the worst period of its history.

Many guys here including me have been visiting angeles for two decades with trips every few weeks to angeles, Let me tell you straight your claims of angeles has never had stunners is just not true, going back angeles bars were full of stunners, stunners that were naked in the bars, stunners that would dish out blow jobs for the price of a very cheap drink, sometimes even for free, body shot games, lesbian shows in bar, hell if you had been in angeles when it was possible to hold private parties in the bars where 5/6 guys were outnumbered by 50 girls then you could claim a good time could be had in angeles.

Most Guys want access to plenty of the type of girls they are seeking (normally the top girls) with little to no bullshit to go with getting sex from said girls, guys do not want to have to get the timing right, troll countless bars to even see a girl they like and then have to mainly take rejection because the girls main focus is not to barfine but to earn her money other ways, that's just fact, does not matter how we try to sugar coat it it remains what it is.

Your claims of guys are not having a good time because they are not willing to spend or want bargain basement goods is simply not true, many here have claimed to have spent up to $85 us on a short time girl, I myself have paid $100 per hour for russian top girls in Moscow and left very happy indeed, so money is no excuse, most will pay handsomely for what they want but want what they want not some low grade substitute.

As for neon lights on the strip, its all still there its just that most bar owners cannot afford the electric bill to turn it on because apart from the few Koreans in town westerers have voted with their feet for other easier ways of fucking pinays or just gone to another easier destination.

I am back in Patts now and the difference in quality of girls is night and day. I am rubber necking everywhere I go.

AC wasn't a total loss for me. I was able to find 2 cute girls in 3 nights which isn't all bad. Socker is right, in that you need to devote a bit more time to the place and go with the ebb and flow. 3 nights is a very short time. But anymore time spent here is less time I can spend in places where I like the girls and town better.

I guess I am just way more attracted to Thai ladies and Thailand in general. And I am lucky that I really groove with Thai girls and seem to connect with them 9/10 times. Language has never really been a barrier.

This of course is just MHO. Others will see things differently and more power to them.

I still like Pinays and will make a trip to Makati / Manila in the future to try the top shelf ladies. My first trip to PI I also had some good luck with Baddoo, but did not have the time to put into it before this trip.

Had a wood fired oven Hawaiian pizza at Clarkton Hotel's restaurant for P385. It was big enough to feed two of us. The pizza was one of the best thin crust I have had.

Also I looked at the dinner buffet for P499 and it was of excellent quality.

There is good food in AC at a fair price.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1926430]Funny how attractive. Slim non bargirls are more than happy to share mine and most mongers bed mostly for much cheaper prices and many times for free but I and these same guys are not attractive enough to fuck bargirls for payment going by your wild claims.

[/QUOTE]And with all the countless posts not a shred of evidence to support these tall claims of being God's gift to the pinays.

Get real, find someone else to fool.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1927318]Socker,

With respect I will disagree with a lot of your comments, here's why.

As you have stated you have only been going to angeles a short while and then only a few trips, all of your time has been through the devastating bar raid period, so basically you have no idea what angeles was before the worst period of its history.

Many guys here including me have been visiting angeles for two decades with trips every few weeks to angeles, Let me tell you straight your claims of angeles has never had stunners is just not true, going back angeles bars were full of stunners, stunners that were naked in the bars, stunners that would dish out blow jobs for the price of a very cheap drink, sometimes even for free, body shot games, lesbian shows in bar, hell if you had been in angeles when it was possible to hold private parties in the bars where 5/6 guys were outnumbered by 50 girls then you could claim a good time could be had in angeles..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply, yes you are one of the lucky ones and now obsessed w / how bad things are now. The way you describe it in the above post is agreeable to all. That's my issue as well (being agreeable) as what you think is acceptable in quality and others think.

Guys rate this one and that one w / out pics which makes their opinions worthless imo. A periodic photo of what's available in AC, Makati, Cebu, or BKK and Patts and the rating by the monger than we get a clear picture of what you're saying. But just throwing out numbers is almost meaningless and that's what many here do. Back up your rating and / or opinion w / a censored photo. Then I can agree or not w / you.

You mentioned earlier that AC is not worth going to any longer and that the 5's, 6's and 7's would have to pay you to fuck them. In my book a 7 is pretty nice so numbers mean shit w / no pic.

The long gone pizzazz of Fields, today not half of what it was on my first trip. It's too bad too but I'm sure it's the cost as you say. I guess it's okay. It's what's on the inside that counts.

On my first trip there were no raids in sight. The neon was flying bright and there were a few stunners around. A lot of UA too in the big bars, probably everywhere. A couple years later the raids started and lasted a year and a half or so. But the authorities know they're not rescuing anyone but incarcerating hard working bar girls. I think that has helped put a stop to them, plus the bars are more careful about who they employ. Did they increase the bar girl age to 20 from 18. I am pretty sure they did in Thailand.

Unfortunately on my first trip I was easy prey for the "over the hill" bar girls and my choices were amateurish. I did choose well 30% of the time but nothing like how I operate now.

Also something is happening to me and it is affecting my monger enjoyment. I'm aging and the gap is getting wider between me and my potential GF for the day. This issue has had a bad affect on my Thai visits the last year or two. The hot ones don't want to be seen w / you if your old. Not so much in the PI though fortunately. When this shit starts happening you have no choice but to lower your aim. It will happen to everyone here if they're lucky but it is a difficult process to accept. Another thing about Thailand is it's a sellers market, the BGs choose you, tell you what you can have, how long you can have it. They are the bosses and not the monger. I can do w / out Thailand like forever. AND, as another poster just stated the DDG beauties are everywhere in mostly the good gogos. Thailand really has the competition beat out easily but there are also tons and tons of mongers brown nosing them so good luck. I like a relaxing bar fine and not be on the BGs clock. That isn't available Thai hookers from the gogos, they want to get business done so they can make more money w / the next guy. That's why I'm an AC guy, none of that crap there.

Lastly, these days w / the internet exposing your paradise to all has changed the playing Field so timing, looks, charm, not to mention money is all part of the game now. Now if you happen to be an elderly Japanese man than this does not apply, same w / a young K. They have the inside track for whatever reason, they do.

My rating system is pretty high (strict) w / no such thing as a 10. The pic several post below, how would you rate her?

Thanks again, sorry I was a bit harsh in some of my past comments. All the best.

[QUOTE=Socker;1927656]Thanks for the reply, yes you are one of the lucky ones and now obsessed w / how bad things are now. The way you describe it in the above post is agreeable to all. That's my issue as well (being agreeable) as what you think is acceptable in quality and others think.

Guys rate this one and that one w / out pics which makes their opinions worthless imo. A periodic photo of what's available in AC, Makati, Cebu, or BKK and Patts and the rating by the monger than we get a clear picture of what you're saying. But just throwing out numbers is almost meaningless and that's what many here do. Back up your rating and / or opinion w / a censored photo. Then I can agree or not w / you.

You mentioned earlier that AC is not worth going to any longer and that the 5's, 6's and 7's would have to pay you to fuck them. In my book a 7 is pretty nice so numbers mean shit w / no pic...[/QUOTE]Thanks for your comments soccer, agree fully with you on many points of this post.

You are correct in the numbers we attach to girls are subjective to what one likes so of not much use in reality.

As for commenting on your girly photos, it does not matter what I or others think, you obviously liked her and enjoyed her company, that's what counts, not what others think.

As far as me posting photos, I simply do not take photos of girls, especially naked ones, never saw the attraction but again each to his own, I also feel that even if I did enjoy taking photos of naked girls I would not post them online, maybe call me old fashioned, but I like to keep my memories in my head and to myself, as already said others opinions of my girls mean little to me.

Thanks and happy mongering.

Reminder for some.

Today is August 27,2016.

The past has no bearings on today.

Last night I BF on 2 separate ST occasions 7's. Both had excellent firm bodies and performed well. Both had one child each and you could not tell by their bodies. They were both pleasant and not in any rush other than the last one wanted to be home by 11 pm. I assumed for her kid but asked her why anyway. Her reply kind of surprised me but not really as I had heard it before. She said where she lived it was not safe to be outside after 11 pm. There are many neighborhoods just a few blocks away from Fields where it is not safe living after dark.

AC still provides. I was in Mischief and Fire Pit bars. About 2 out of 10 BG were what poster refer to as "fatties", these fatties were about 10-15 pounds heavier than the others. About 3 out of 10 were slim 7. 5 - 8's. These girls could go up a notch if they had better make up, face waxing, hair styling and clothes. Most stunners are 8's just made up and dressed better with nicer packaging.

To me AC still provides.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1927553]And with all the countless posts not a shred of evidence to support these tall claims of being God's gift to the pinays.

Get real, find someone else to fool.[/QUOTE]With respect I am confused, here is why.

By evidence I assume you mean photos posted as evidence.

You sir have almost 500 posts, many of those posts claiming you barfine stunners in Angeles, as you have never posted a photo on this board should you not be setting an example before demanding others post evidence.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1927484]Had a wood fired oven Hawaiian pizza at Clarkton Hotel's restaurant for P385. It was big enough to feed two of us. The pizza was one of the best thin crust I have had.

Also I looked at the dinner buffet for P499 and it was of excellent quality.

There is good food in AC at a fair price.[/QUOTE]I thought the pizza was over-priced for what was on top. Also general menu appears to never change in spite of various so called chefs arriving and departing. Table service is good though. Mirrors bar a shadow of its former self. Sad really.

[QUOTE=Fastpiston;1928084]I thought the pizza was over-priced for what was on top. Also general menu appears to never change in spite of various so called chefs arriving and departing. Table service is good though. Mirrors bar a shadow of its former self. Sad really.[/QUOTE]Have to agree about Clarkton food being expensive for what is offered Fastpiston.

Years back Clarkton hotel was my home away from home, there was everything there, good rooms, food on premises, large pool tables, Mirrors bar on premises, Lost in Asia next door, roadhouse next to that, so probably 200 girls in the space of 50 meters, There was little will or need to venture anywhere else outside of that small area.

Alas Clarkton hotel and the food is a shadow of their former self at high prices, mirrors bar, only a handful of girls, lost in Asia bar has gone from a must visit bar to a never visit bar, alas the great roadhouse bar closed some years back.

Just back from two weeks in AC. As usual I like to try a variety of angles to get to the point.

Upon arrival at NAIA I was greeted by a followup from my previous trip. This little uni post-grad joined me for the road trip to AC and it was nice to have BBBJ under way in the Friday night 'rush' aka 'gush' hour.

In AC I was happy for this girl to stick around for a few days as per our plan. She is smart and good conservationist as well. Was kind of homely to have her prepare breakfast, keep house, let me work and then perform in bed all night and before I went to work each day. I put her on a bus back to MNL.

That night after she left was happy to spend the night alone and get some rest.

Picked up on an earlier meeting from Margarita Station. It was a quick rendezvous and back to the hotel. This girl stayed two days but eventually she had to go to her call center job on Base. I really like this girl, 29 years old, tight tight body and polite. Not the submissive polite, I mean a polite gentle person. Will see her again for sure.

Spent way too much time hunting down some WeChat & pinalove potentials. So after being frigged around decide I would be better to just sleep than start the bar scene so late. As my head hit the pillow at 11 pm, a message arrives from a far earlier dead conversation, "Hi, I'm just out from work, let's meet'. Was like a dream come true. She has just been in AC for two week, works in a Perimeter Bar, had just one barfine in those two weeks. Went and met her, triked back together and into bed. She was happy to stick around until 10 am the next day when I sent her back to her place in Diamond sub-division.

Astute readers will notice so far no bar visits and plenty of sex was had.

A friend of a friend set me up with the next girl which would carry me through the next two nights. Nice girl, no phone load, a little disorganised but of course a good performer.

Had a couple of random girls and massages from WeChat. When not avoiding the ladyboys WeChat has previously been good to me. The girls were nice but nothing spectacular. The random massage girl was kind of boring.

Swung by After School at 6 pm one night and quickly found a woman whom I just enjoyed the conversation. Took her back to the hotel, ordered takeout and watched movies before the bedroom performance.

On the final night called in a favor from a maid whom I have met on / off for the past four years. Well she was pretty damn happy to catch up. Just a genuine girl that no longer works the dating sites but still likes her sex. Will see her again.

Having been a regular visitor to AC now for a few years it's not as much fun to visit the bars. Some night I just don't want the hassle of the unknown immature bargirl.

Did consciously avoid a couple of girls from a previous trip. Yes had coffee with them, yes was polite but really the pain of their baggage is greater than the joy of their sex.

So in two weeks, that's one visit to one bar. The rest of the action was sourced from the outside scene.

I did get dumped by one dating site girl. Last trip we met twice for sex but this trip she wanted dating and no sex. Never did find the time for her.

On Pinalove did come across a girl that will be a good catch for someone. A genuine San Fernando uni student that just wants a home each weekend. She's already on the contraceptive pill, just wants a regular BF. She will live in the uni dormitory M-F. I did have a few SKype calls with her, clarified the rules for each of us but she wants more that a few weeks a month. She is quite articulate and writes well. How much is truth, how much is story, just not sure. The fact she is so certain of her arrangement and already on contraceptive makes me think she has another foreigner for the M-F cover.

For my regular visits I'm starting to tire of the daily search for a new girl and would just like a reliable girl.

BD.

BD, thanks for posting your report. It sounds like you had a delightful time in AC, but have you ever considered spending time in Cebu City? Cebuanas are beautiful and that town is made for social media pickups. With your preferred MO, I think you would do really well down there. There is a lot more to do in Cebu City than in AC apart from the superior AC bar culture and Cebu City is a nicer town to otherwise recreate in IMHO.

Stay thirsty,

NB

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1928330]BD, thanks for posting your report. It sounds like you had a delightful time in AC, but have you ever considered spending time in Cebu City? Cebuanas are beautiful and that town is made for social media pickups. With your preferred MO, I think you would do really well down there. There is a lot more to do in Cebu City than in AC apart from the superior AC bar culture and Cebu City is a nicer town to otherwise recreate in IMHO.

Stay thirsty,

NB[/QUOTE]Thanks for the positive note. My very first Philippines landing was into Cebu where I was in and out on business for a year or so. Have a couple of beautiful Cebuana there whom are happy to meet me at the airport and look after me. My previous field report in Cebu in May is documented here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3305-General-Reports&p=1889998&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1889998.

I relocated my business from Cebu to the Clark Freeport Zone.

I would like to visit Cebu more often. Would be good if CP would offer a reasonable schedule CRK-CEB-CRK.

BD.

I am doing a little survey here.

On my last recent visits to AC it was very slow in the bars and restos. Noticeably quite a few less Americans, Australians and Europeans. Seems to be more Koreans or they stood out more as less of westerns.

My question is the downturn in westerners due to slowdown in their respective economies, terrorists threats, beheading of kidnap victims, airport bullet scam and or perception Phils is not safe anymore?

Let's try to get some valid first hand answers please.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1928853]I am doing a little survey here.

On my last recent visits to AC it was very slow in the bars and restos. Noticeably quite a few less Americans, Australians and Europeans. Seems to be more Koreans or they stood out more as less of westerns.

My question is the downturn in westerners due to slowdown in their respective economies, terrorists threats, beheading of kidnap victims, airport bullet scam and or perception Phils is not safe anymore?

Let's try to get some valid first hand answers please.[/QUOTE]Perhaps more and more people are reading Napaslapper's posts and taking heed.