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Another attack of pro Repub Bothsiderism there.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3026643]Both the right and left are playing politics here. The right is trying to paint this as another left wing lunatic killing and this is typical of left wing politics. The left is playing the card, the right is only focusing on the politics of the shooter and refusing to acknowledge this sort of tragedy happens across the political spectrum. In a way, they are both right, but that should not be the narrative. The narrative should be condemnation of political violence irregardless of political party. Instead, we have the media machine doing everything they can to stir the pot at much as possible to get the most clicks and views and earn the most dollars and cents from both sides of the spectrum and the American public loves it whether they know it or not. They can't help follow this story all day. And the radical extremists, like you Tooms, play right into as well. You even trying to paint this like the guy was a conservative LOL. I don't think there is a single person who has read your posts who even takes the time to read what you write any more. I know I stopped reading your posts long ago, because they will always be so ridiculously biased..[/QUOTE]Of course you and Tyler Robinson's Repub MAGA State Governor would want to "bothsides" the issue since, as Spidy pointed out and fully substantiated, Trump's Repub MAGA Winger side is responsible for more than 5 times the politically-motivated violence of the so-called Left.
No surprise since more than 9 years ago Repub MAGA Trump promoted the then already brewing Repub Party promotion of applying their "2nd Amendment Remedy" to "take care of" any election winner they don't like.
Which obviously extended into the 2020 election outcome even though many of the Repub MAGA cop-killers and wannabe political assassins did not get their guns past the metal detectors outside of the USA Capitol area, despite Trump's efforts to allow them to, and they had to resort to using other types of deadly weapons and blunt instruments. American flag poles, for example.
Tyler Robinson would have been exposed to and absorbing that Repub MAGA promotion and behavior in his family, town, state, schools and in all forms of media, wherever Trump and his fellow Repub MAGAS could get it carried to impressionable minds of any age.
Including Charlie Kirk, BTW.
Gish gallosh Gibberish, is not hard evidence or fact!
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3026666]So if someone would have successfully assassinated Trump, Kirk would be alive? You are still promoting hate, and you need to shut the fuck up! It is the hate that you, Spidy, MSNBC, and the NYT specialize in that killed Kirk, and you assholes never accept responsibility for anything.[/QUOTE]Once again, you just talk shit, and gish gallosh gibberish, just like your master and your MAGA Fuhrer, with no evidence of said claims.
FYI, The data bear out, that YOU and your MAGA Fuhrer, is once again spreading lies and falsehoods, when it comes to who is committing the majority of the political violence.
[LIST][i]"A total of 3,599 people have been murdered in politically motivated terrorist attacks in the United States from January 1, 1975, through September 10, 2025."
Right-wingers are the second most common motivating ideology, accounting for [b]391 murders[/b] and 11 percent of the total. The definition here of right-wing terrorists includes those motivated by white supremacy, anti-abortion beliefs, involuntary celibacy (incels), and other right-wing ideologies."[/i] [url]https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-states[/url][/LIST]
The evidence provided by EihToom ([URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2467-American-Politics&p=3026421&viewfull=1#post3026421[/URL]), for Kirk's shooting clearly shows you can, ADD 1 MORE RIGHT-WING EXTREMIST to the LONG LIST of right-wing terrorists.
Where's your HARD evidence, besides the nonsense and gish gallop you parrot?
Why do Repub Trump and his fellow Repub MAGAs love deadly diseases so much?
Remember when Elvis wondered how some of us would react if Trump cured Cancer?
Funny he should mention Cancer and Trump in the same sentence.
It turns out as thankful for the 2016 MAGA vote as Covid was, a million dead Americans later, Cancer no doubt is even more thankful for the 2024 MAGA vote:
[B]In the war on cancer, Team Trump decides to start waving the white flag.
American voters might not have realized that a Republican victory in 2024 would mean sweeping cuts to cancer research, but thats what theyre getting.
Sept. 16, 2025[/B]
[URL]https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/war-cancer-team-trump-decides-start-waving-white-flag-rcna231434[/URL]
[QUOTE]Its against this backdrop that The New York Times reported that a half-century after Richard Nixon declared war on cancer, there have been a great many breakthroughs that have saved and extended lives. The incumbent Republican president, however, is effectively waving the white flag in this war. From the article:
[B]"In a matter of months, the Trump administration has canceled hundreds of millions of dollars in cancer-related research grants and contracts, arguing that they were part of politically driven D.E.I. initiatives, and suspended or delayed payments for hundreds of millions more. It is trying to sharply reduce the percentage of expenses that the government will cover for federally funded cancer-research labs. It has terminated hundreds of government employees who helped lead the countrys cancer-research system and ensured that new discoveries reached clinicians, cancer patients and the American public. And the presidents proposed budget for the next fiscal year calls for a more-than-37-percent cut to the National Cancer Institute the N.I.H. agency that leads most of the nations cancer research reducing it to $4.5 billion from $7.2 billion. Adjusting for inflation, you have to go back more than 30 years to find a comparably sized federal cancer-research budget."[/b]
In a companion piece, the articles author, Jonathan Mahler, noted that the timing of the retreat is especially cruel America is in the midst of one of its most productive periods in cancer-research history, he noted and even if a more sensible administration takes office after Trumps exit, it wont be possible to quickly reverse course.
[B]"The disruptions to existing projects and larger doubts about the governments commitment to funding future cancer research are already causing damage that may be very difficult to undo, potentially depleting the countrys supply of scientists and scientific innovation for decades to come, he concluded."[/b][/QUOTE]Hey, at least Repub MAGA Trump can now truthfully claim to have ended an actual war somewhere. Unfortunately, he ended it by handing Cancer a huge victory. Elvis, don't hold your breath waiting to find out how anyone would react if Trump cured Cancer. That is far, far, far away from what Trump has in mind for the fate of Cancer.
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What vile poison is that?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3026685]No Elvis, I want these left-wing fanatics to keep posting their vile poison although not necessarily on the ISG. With every obscene internet post, they expose what they truly are. The Kirk political assassination and their disgusting, hateful defense of the indefensible shows the world their true nature. It astonishes me the degree to which idiots like Bob and far more famous radical members of the Democratic party are so tone deaf and unaware of how much ordinary, hardworking, non-political people are offended and outraged by their gross lack of human decency. Keep it up you Jacobins and the Republican party will own the White House for the next 50 years.[/QUOTE]Has somebody in this forum defended the cold-blooded "2nd Amendment Remedy" shooting and killing of Charlie Kirk?
If so, I must have missed it. Please quote the exact passages and statements supporting your accusation.
Thank you.
The Great American MAGA Swindle, no doubt 'The Art of the Steal', as farmers go broke
With the all the talk and dumbass identity politics, from the Fuhrer's MAGA suckers who are all talking about [NOPARSE]"...going woke is going broke[/NOPARSE], I'll definitely give them credit about one thing,[I][b]...American's are going broke, under a MAGA Fuhrer's shit-show Admin,[/b][/I] that is!
Whether you're a Dem or Repub, liberal or conservative, small business owner or farmer, the never ending grifting, con job and [I][b]"The Great American MAGA Swindle"[/b][/I], by the MAGA Fuhrer, is here to pickpocket and make broke hard working Americans.
The latest grifts in defiance of the USA Constitution's Emoluments Clauses:
[QUOTE] NYT: "Over the past few months, Mr. Witkoff (Trump’s Middle East envoy) and Sheikh Tahnoon had become both diplomatic allies and business partners, [b]testing the limits of ethics rules while enriching the president, his family and his inner circle,[/b]
At the heart of their relationship are two multi-billion-dollar deals. One involved a crypto company founded by the Witkoff and the Trump families that benefited both financially. The other involved a sale of valuable computer chips that benefited the Emirates economically.
While there is no evidence that one deal was explicitly offered in return for the other, the confluence of the two agreements is itself extraordinary. [b]Taken together, they blurred the lines between personal and government business and raised questions about whether U.S. interests were served.[/b] [url] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/15/us/politics/trump-uae-chips-witkoff-world-liberty.html [/URL][/QUOTE][B] The New Yorker: The NUMBER - How much is Trump pocketting off the presidency?[/B] and [B]New Yorker Mag Reveals Trump Family's Frenzy to Cash In on the White House,[/B] Aug 11th, 2025.
[URL]ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpNe45_-XWY[/URL] AND [URL]https://www.democracynow.org/2025/8/20/trump_profit[/URL].
Meanwhile their MAGA Fuhrer, continues to enrich himself and his family (from a net worth of under a billion, to 5 billion and then 10 billion, in a few months), USA Farmers are going broke, under the economic tariffs strain, grifting and cons of his dumbass tariffs and shit-show admin policies.
[B]Farmers Are Struggling Under Donald Trump[/B], Sep 13,2025.
[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/farmers-are-struggling-under-donald-trump-2128104[/URL]
So while the MAGA suckers, continue to harp on about "the woke going broke", they fail to see it's hardworking (bi-partisan) Americans that are going broke, from a callous, fraudulent and criminal MAGA administration, [I][b]hell bent on prioritizing personal and political enrichment[/b][/I] through foreign deals, while critical domestic sectors like small business and agriculture suffer from policy choices that exacerbate financial hardships.
