Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1301615]Better one.

"The forum for men who have to pay for it!"[/QUOTE]Nah,"The forum for men who would rather pay for it."

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1302019]Nah, "The forum for men who would rather pay for it."[/QUOTE]"Rather pay for it." Seems to be somewhat of an enigma. Or, possibly even an oxymoron?

Of course, we all can agree a man usually pays something, one way or another. And, very occasionally, even a woman pays!

I often get the impression, though, that some mongers have no choice in the matter. A "free" relationship is no longer a possibility for them whether they want it, or not.

[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1302030]"Rather pay for it." Seems to be somewhat of an enigma. Or, possibly even an oxymoron?[/QUOTE]I'd call it self-delusion.

Self-delusional in the same way as the people saying "we don't pay them to come, we pay them to leave". How many here would pay a beautiful 19 year old student, who drops by in her student uniform in between lectures, to leave? Quite a bit fewer than the ones who'd pay her to come, I bet.

[QUOTE=Duniawala;1301777]Wow, what a gentlemanly behavior. Is it worth it to give false hope to desperate women. It's not that you saved any big money, is it.[/QUOTE]I don't know, is it? I gave an example of what you can do. I did not say I did it.

It is easy to get laid on those sites if that is what you want.

[QUOTE=Ixgzca;1300765]That's because most of the guys are older. Their chances of picking up a young good looking Thai with no money involved are slim. But just because it's difficult for them, a lot of them say it's impossible for everyone. I've been tempted on more than a few occasions to take a few board members out to RCA one night just to show that getting a good looking Thai girl for free is not an urban myth.lol.[/QUOTE]Sorry but can you tell what or where is RCA?

Attention Jackson: can you please add my old posts on to my new account as I couldn't access (login to) my previous account of 'Osakagin', due to an email glich.

[QUOTE=Pablo; 1301304]I find this the most true in Bangkok during my many visits. I got bored of the go-go and beer bar scene and between trips (about every 6 weeks) started working the Internet circuit and as has been reported, it's pretty easy. I met a several girls, and every one turned out to be with "strings attached". It was fun setting things up, flirting before I departed, stuff like that. But after one "date", I was ready to move on. With a ST / LT bar girl, no worries. They don't expect a call back, even if you tell them you will.

But with the non-pros / semi-pros, they do. And I got the calls, emails and texts expecting me to be their committed BF. That wasn't for me. So my connections in both Thailand and Manila have all ended badly. Maybe it's my personality that I allow myself to feel bad about "dumping" them. I feel bad when I get the emails and texts wondering why I won't go out with them every night. I end up making lame excuses about "work commitments" when really I just want a new and different girl.

So for me, I've given up on working the Internet sites for hook ups. Wolvenvacht's quote hits the nail on the head for me. If I lived there, it might be different. But when I am there for 10-20 days, I want to be Mr. Butterfly. And for me, the pre-arranged Internet hook ups doesn't lend it self to that.[/QUOTE]My experience pretty much alike with you. Last couple or years I have stopped hunting girls from bars or soapies. I have started using of internet and everybody knows how to get your girl. M of mid fifty's and easy to assume that, my girls are not young. They are over than 37. Whenever my feet steps on BKK soil, there are almost a dozen of phone numbers are with me.

I stay 10 to 20 days and whenever I finish meeting with the listed girls, I leave. In the beginning I also feel guilty like you, m I dumping them? Now days I don't feel like that. I get a realization, m not only internet BF for them. They are same like me. Yes I do lie with them and I know they lie with me too. M in course of what m doing from last days, still not given up.

And money? Off course nothing is free; there a cost involved too in any cover.

[QUOTE=Werqweq; 1302038]I'd call it self-delusion.

Self-delusional in the same way as the people saying "we don't pay them to come, we pay them to leave". How many here would pay a beautiful 19 year old student, who drops by in her student uniform in between lectures, to leave? Quite a bit fewer than the ones who'd pay her to come, I bet.[/QUOTE].

Not really. Try having that 19 year old staying in your room day in day out, expecting tuition fees and all else paid for, having expectations yet being 19 years old (and no, I am not 23). And chances are that the girl is not a rocket scientist nor reading Proust or Hegel or even basic accounting. Been there done that. Now we might qualify it by asking which university's uniform she's wearing, if it is a Chula or Thammasat one, it might be worth a conversation. Amazing how many guys I meet who have this university student fantasy, and then they tell me they met a Ramkamhaeng girl in Gullivers or somewhere and are convinced that she is a good girl just out for a night on the town. Those 19 year old university students, I pay them to leave 1000. But if they are good, they are allowed to leave more than once.

[QUOTE=Werqweq; 1302038]I'd call it self-delusion.

Self-delusional in the same way as the people saying "we don't pay them to come, we pay them to leave". How many here would pay a beautiful 19 year old student, who drops by in her student uniform in between lectures, to leave? Quite a bit fewer than the ones who'd pay her to come, I bet.[/QUOTE]Yup, half the posters here think they're Charlie Sheen.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;1302038]How many here would pay a beautiful 19 year old student, who drops by in her student uniform in between lectures, to leave?[/QUOTE]I'd pay a 19 year old Gisele Bundchen to leave after 24 hours or else I would have to leave. After a while I get tired of them, no matter how sexy they are. Of course in a day or two I would want her to come back. Face it man, we pay for them to come and we pay for them to leave. We pay if they are our wives or girlfriends. We pay if they are our hookers. We are men. Life is pretty good.

[QUOTE=Werqweq; 1302038]I'd call it self-delusion.

Self-delusional in the same way as the people saying "we don't pay them to come, we pay them to leave". How many here would pay a beautiful 19 year old student, who drops by in her student uniform in between lectures, to leave? Quite a bit fewer than the ones who'd pay her to come, I bet.[/QUOTE]You probably got the say in a wrong way. It is true they come for money and but it is also true that, whilst we always tend to delay the payment to the end (to make sure they perform) sometime we give them the money earlier than expected to get them out of the room. Second situation is that we also know that often some try to stay attach as much as they can to milk something more (gift, visit to the gold shop etc). Since they are p4p, handling over the money is a way to cut the story short and have them leaving. You would not do that to a real friend.

Both camps are accusing each other of being delusional. That's quite amusing.

[QUOTE=Chill Out;1302120]Both camps are accusing each other of being delusional. That's quite amusing.[/QUOTE]I am not actually accusing anybody but rather making a sort of a statement on a possible different POV.

There is no war going on here.

[QUOTE=Werqweq; 1302038]I'd call it self-delusion.

Self-delusional in the same way as the people saying "we don't pay them to come, we pay them to leave". How many here would pay a beautiful 19 year old student, who drops by in her student uniform in between lectures, to leave? Quite a bit fewer than the ones who'd pay her to come, I bet.[/QUOTE]I would. I don't care how great looking a gal is. After an hour or so, I am ready to get rid of them and don't really want to see them again for quite awhile. Given multiple options like we have as residents of BKK, I imagine most men would feel the same.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1302158]I would. I don't care how great looking a gal is. After an hour or so, I am ready to get rid of them and don't really want to see them again for quite awhile. Given multiple options like we have as residents of BKK, I imagine most men would feel the same.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Can you fashion this thought into a slogan?

"Given multiple options like we have as residents of BKK, I imagine most men would feel the same."

Maybe "most men" on this forum might think this way.

I've "lived" with several P4P women in the past, and "dated" a few as friends, and I can say that they are almost just like other women, although usually much better in bed!

They were also very good at telling lies. ;)

[QUOTE=Werqweq;1302002]That's nice of you and the behaviour of a decent man. But what I do not understand is why not simply tell her the truth; say you like her and would like to sleep with her, but it will be a one-time thing only. Sure, she may say "no thanks", in which case you end up at the same place you ended up now. Or she may say "ok".[/QUOTE]Well, I think I would have fessed up with my true intention if I hadn't established a "friendship" over email and Skype before arriving in BKK and meeting her. I kinda used the premise that I wanted a Bangkok girlfriend and she seemed ok with the concept even though I have a longterm relationship at home. Two things changed my mind: it wasn going to be practicle taking this super long cab rides to her area; and honestly. I really get the point that even though her job sucks. I wasn't prepared to string her along and take away what stability she had. She had assembled electronics. But its still a assembly line job.

My point is that it's too easy to get eager before arriving and set up multiple girls via the Internet. But once there, I realized it wasn't necessary and I didn't get the kind of girl I wanted. Mind you, she exceeded many of my expectations except for the fact that she really wanted a long term boyfriend. Not what I wanted.

I did end up with another 19 y / o from Pattaya moving in with me for 3 months. It was awesome. I'm pretty sure I was lucky as she was not a working girl but may have ended up at a bar within days of me arriving. Met her in Pattaya on Walking St, she thought I wanted her friends but was shocked that I wanted her. Invited her to BKK after a fantastic night. She was kinda confused when I handed her BT after the night in Pattaya. I said it was for school.

In BKK, she bacame my little plaything and friend. She saved me tonnes of money as she thought I had none. So she taught me how to live real cheap in Thailand. My last night, I needed to buy gifts from Bangkok. I gave a 3000 bt and she came back with an outrageous amount a things and only spent 2000k giving me back the balance.

And her body was unbelievable. She loved staying in watching bootleg movies (in Thai with English subtitles) and letting me play with her at my whim. She was a catch and she understood the deal. Never gave her money except for food and when I said go buy some clothes etc. When I left, I gave her about 10000 bt but that was for close to 90 of unlimited play. I didn't veer too much except when coming home from work or on my lunches. SOL, Tulip and Nataree were my haunts when I felt superhuman.