Jakarta

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2966722]My experience on Tinder was terrible but your experience on Tinder is reassuring enough for me to give it another shot when I next visit Jakarta.

Did any money exchange hands?

[/QUOTE]Nope. And neither did it exchange with the 28 yo who left half an hour ago, from the "Tandem" language learning app, who I wonder if it was Loveithere who mentioned first. Weird and difficult to use app for our purposes (bang girls nearby, unless you pay for the premium account), and the girl was also a bit difficult. She required not only an hour coffee date (I paid for her coffee of course), but a further half hour of nothingness in my room before accepting my dick between her legs. I was about to run out of patience and kick her out so I could wander over to Emporivm instead before the pool there closes at 11, when she finally succumbed to her lust and spread her legs to receive the holy water.

As with the girl from the morning, I also let this one book grab via my phone, and even walked her down to the car, though admittedly the latter was mostly because she was so embarrassed about "breaking her [silly] rules" that I wanted to chuckle some more about it while going down in the elevator with her in my flip-flops.
Fortunately a group of indonesian women were also in the hallway when we exited my room and were doing the walk of shame together (well, not really together, as I, like all of us here, have long since accepted that I am a male sl0t and held my head high).
In an effort to help future brothers here, who might some day encounter the same girl, I tried to make her see her rules did not have much meaning, and as she clearly enjoyed it and no animals were hurt in the process, she should not feel embarrassed.

In other news, the p4p girl I paid to bang at Classic earlier today (yes, at 15:15 or so there were a couple of dozen girls there), who turns 20 in a few days and uses the Japanese sounding name "Yoko" if I remember correctly, (if not, it was some other Japanese name) insisted on condom. Apart from that she was friendly enough and I tipped her 100 k in the end anyway because she had learned herself to deepthroat rather well, and did not push away as soon as I started filling her mouth with my babyless semen. Said she had only worked there three weeks, which might be true, though I think she's a fast learner if so, as she was already both hinting about there being some sick buffalos in the family, and felt a bit too mercurial in her behaviour.

Also the 19 yo who had twice expressed her willingness to come over here and now while I was still not in Jakarta, and a third time while I was busy, seems to have, somewhat understandably, run out of patience with me and lost her interest. So there's a delicate balance between starting to chat up girls before you've arrived, and making them run bored of you before you're actually able to meet up with them.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2966722]My experience on Tinder was terrible but your experience on Tinder is reassuring enough for me to give it another shot when I next visit Jakarta.

Did any money exchange hands?

Good to hear also that Grab Feel has been upgraded to taxis. I only used it on the bikes previously.[/QUOTE]My experience on tinder was great on my 1st trip- 4 out of 4 dates but on my next trip, as you'the expect, with high hopes I was firing blanks and tbh a place like Jakarta where you can have a 3-some for 500 k the motivation to spend that much (or more) on one date who may or may not be up for action later may not make sense for someone who's there for a week or less. You might be wasting quite a lot of time as girls do flake out quite often or they would be saying that the location is far as invariably they would not live anywhere near central Jakarta then you get a sense of how enormous Jakarta is even if you book the Grab for them.

So in short you do get your fair share of horny women but many of them are not in shape, like a large %. Then the ones who are in good shape I'm sure will get a lot messages (though obviously Jakarta has a lot less visitors / tourists than other places), I find myself swiping left like 85%.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2966770]Nope. And neither did it exchange with the 28 yo who left half an hour ago, from the "Tandem" language learning app, who I wonder if it was Loveithere who mentioned first. Weird and difficult to use app for our purposes (bang girls nearby, unless you pay for the premium account), and the girl was also a bit difficult. She required not only an hour coffee date (I paid for her coffee of course), but a further half hour of nothingness in my room before accepting my dick between her legs. I was about to run out of patience and kick her out so I could wander over to Emporivm instead before the pool there closes at 11, when she finally succumbed to her lust and spread her legs to receive the holy water.[/QUOTE]I mentioned tandem as an option, not Loveithere. He's actually contributed very little to this board other than argumentative attitude.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2963900]For those of you who are looking to make a connection with regular girls who are possibly (highly likely) open for fun, check out this language site I discovered. I don't recall seeing it mentioned here previously. It's totally free, with a few restrictions, and easy to strike up a conversation. I'm currently chatting up three 18-20 yo college girls who say they are wanting to learn English but have made it clear they'd also be open to meet up for more. One in particular is 18 and sultry hot and wants to 'tour me around the city but don't tell my parents' when I visit in January. Lots of potential here.

The site is: [URL]https://tandem.net/[/URL].

I'm also finding a lot of interest from girls on the Litmatch app. Lots of 18-20-somethings but be careful, some eager beavers here who are obviously not of legal age yet either. Do NOT go there.

Badoo is also yielding civilian results at the moment with the same demographic. The girls I've spoken to so far vary. A few came right out and said they want someone to pay them (no issues here altho it's more fun to try my luck scoring freebies first) but I'm also talking to several who are looking for a bule 'holidate'.

Finally, [URL]thaiflirting.com[/URL] (not thaifriendly) is another free site where there are few civilian Indos, although that site is more for Thais and Filipinas. Had very good success with that site when I visited Thailand last year, but again, there are a few ceweks there as well.

Good luck and report back, gents![/QUOTE]Plenty of opportunity on tandem, but also Litmatch, especially.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2966853]I mentioned tandem as an option, not Loveithere. He's actually contributed very little to this board other than argumentative attitude.[/QUOTE]Sorry about that. Thanks for the tip, as it obviously worked. ;-)

I also installed Litmatch based on your suggestion, but it seems to have locked itself to Spain region for some reason (I first installed and used it there). Haven't bothered trying to uninstalling, or creating a new account for it, yet.

Edit: yes, that seems to have been it. Can only set the region once, so need to delete and create a new account for each region.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2966896]Sorry about that. Thanks for the tip, as it obviously worked. ;-)

I also installed Litmatch based on your suggestion, but it seems to have locked itself to Spain region for some reason (I first installed and used it there). Haven't bothered trying to uninstalling, or creating a new account for it, yet.[/QUOTE]That's weird. When I installed Litmatch here in the US, all I got were Indo girls. Anyway, glad you're finding success on Tandem. I'm getting a lot of responses from real girls (non-pros) on badoo as well.

Do you mean regular job girls?

Or you pay 1 mil+.

Worst tinder Jakarta.

Many brokers use female pics and when move to wa refuse calls.

Looking for friend long-term all same asking 1 m.

Those few 1 of 10 match.

Far.

You waste time schedule.

More than half will ghost you.

Save your self time if you Jakarta less than 15 days.

Check admin will approve or delete this on ground report.

Found about this location.

Tambora few miles from kota tua.

Not far from city.

Many other location in Bekasi BSD but far.

Went in there with low expectations and it was.

Just a laundry type front face shop.

Upstairs rooms massage girls age 30 to 40.

Here more time available 90 minutes.

Rooms were curtains and twin mattress.

Many women sitting on floor.

I left in 5 minutes or less quick.

Will post address if this get approved.

Not recommended.

My experience with Tinder was hilarious or lame depending on your perspective. The lady turned out to look quite a lot older than her pic, and she shows up to this really expensive restaurant with her 20 year old son. They obviously enjoyed my hospitality and she tried to even keep wanting to meet me again and had to block her. There were a couple of others who were interesting on Tinder, but a combination of shortage of time, the other options, and feeling ill meant I couldn't explore them further. I still wonder whether they would have been freebies or where and how the topic of money would have happened if I had taken them for drinks etc. I will go back and try again to find out.

[QUOTE=Sychip1;2966815]My experience on tinder was great on my 1st trip- 4 out of 4 dates but on my next trip, as you'the expect, with high hopes I was firing blanks and tbh a place like Jakarta where you can have a 3-some for 500 k the motivation to spend that much (or more) on one date who may or may not be up for action later may not make sense for someone who's there for a week or less. You might be wasting quite a lot of time as girls do flake out quite often or they would be saying that the location is far as invariably they would not live anywhere near central Jakarta then you get a sense of how enormous Jakarta is even if you book the Grab for them.

So in short you do get your fair share of horny women but many of them are not in shape, like a large %. Then the ones who are in good shape I'm sure will get a lot messages (though obviously Jakarta has a lot less visitors / tourists than other places), I find myself swiping left like 85%.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2966939]My experience with Tinder was hilarious or lame depending on your perspective. The lady turned out to look quite a lot older than her pic, and she shows up to this really expensive restaurant with her 20 year old son. They obviously enjoyed my hospitality and she tried to even keep wanting to meet me again and had to block her. There were a couple of others who were interesting on Tinder, but a combination of shortage of time, the other options, and feeling ill meant I couldn't explore them further. I still wonder whether they would have been freebies or where and how the topic of money would have happened if I had taken them for drinks etc. I will go back and try again to find out.[/QUOTE]FWIW, I'm guessing I've banged about 100 regular girls via tinder or some other dating app (but mostly Tinder), and with one exception, none of them expected any money.
That one exception was a burmese girl in Thailand last year, who turned up as for a normal date, but after half an hour surprised me by expecting money for sex, at which point I kicked her out.

I commend you for entertaining that scheming cow and her son, though it probably means she will pull that same scam again on some other poor fellow.

I'm no online dating expert, but the one tip I will give is never meet anyone at an expensive restaurant. Not even if you're loaded and don't care one ioata about the price of dinner. It simply has the opposite effect of what you want. If what you want to pay for company, Seeking is a much better choice I think. Regular non-p4p girls are better met at a coffee shop or something similar. My favourite is actually the free swimming pool wherever I'm staying.

My date yesterday, I had dinner an hour before, then walked back to my hotel to take a shower and meet her at a coffee shop outside. The same will happen today in a few minutes, though she messaged she's had to wait for her taxi and just got in it now. So not sure if coffee shops will still be open when she arrives.

Chef-girl who I've already banged on the other hand, and who arrived too late for us to go anywhere but my room: I hope she choose a good Indonesian restaurant for our date tomorrow. Given her job, I expect the food to be good Indonesian food, which will be a welcome change for me now that I've eaten dinner by myself at holy cow two days in a row.

[QUOTE=Sychip1;2966815]My experience on tinder was great on my 1st trip- 4 out of 4 dates but on my next trip, as you'the expect, with high hopes I was firing blanks and tbh a place like Jakarta where you can have a 3-some for 500 k the motivation to spend that much (or more) on one date who may or may not be up for action later may not make sense for someone who's there for a week or less. You might be wasting quite a lot of time as girls do flake out quite often or they would be saying that the location is far as invariably they would not live anywhere near central Jakarta then you get a sense of how enormous Jakarta is even if you book the Grab for them.

[/QUOTE]You are right about that, except I as said do not spend more than coffee and cake money on a first date, as I think that is basically counterproductive. Both time and moneywise.

The best way to use Tinder in places like this, where cheap alternatives are so easily available, is IMO to not expect much, and use neither much time nor money on it. Use it while riding the exercise bike in the gym, waiting for food, relaxing with a cup of coffee, or sitting in a taxi. If you match up with someone, she wants to meet, and you end up banging her, great. If not, book grab to the Classic or whatever and less than 30 EUR later, you will be banging some other girl.

Example: my first two days here different online girls turned up each day, and who I went to bed with (one who I liked and want to see again, is probably better looking than anyone at Classic, and has boobs I think might be the 8th wonder of the world). Today a third girl turned up, and while she was younger than I thought (I couldn't remember her age, and when she asked me to guess I thought she was 25, but she said she was 22), she was at least 5 kg overweight, and had the personality of an accountant (which is what she was). While I, after tossing a virtual coin, made a very half-hearted suggestion of us going up to my room at the end, I didn't really care that she said no. 10 minutes later I was walking over to Classic, where I fucked a 20 yo in the ass.

And in reference to Classic: while 15:30 is hardly the ideal time to turn up, 23:30 is not ideal either. Choosing between one of them, 15:30 is definitely more my cup of tea. No smoke at that time either. I'm guessing around 6 pm has to be the best time.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2966898]That's weird. When I installed Litmatch here in the US, all I got were Indo girls. Anyway, glad you're finding success on Tandem. I'm getting a lot of responses from real girls (non-pros) on badoo as well.[/QUOTE]When I created a new account I saw you have to set your region, and you cannot change the region later. I guess I set it to Spain when installing it after reading your post, thinking I'll experiment with it a bit before changing to Jakarta later, but did not remember that it says you cannot change the region after registering.

I just wanted to double-check regarding all these constant posts about success on the Vanilla dating app. Are you all White men? Because, as far as I know, Asian men often find it difficult to get matches on these apps. South East Asian women are more attracted towards white men if I am not wrong.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2966993]When I created a new account I saw you have to set your region, and you cannot change the region later. I guess I set it to Spain when installing it after reading your post, thinking I'll experiment with it a bit before changing to Jakarta later, but did not remember that it says you cannot change the region after registering.[/QUOTE]I think you can just uninstall it and create a new account. I have several backup emails solely for the purpose of having multiple accounts on different apps.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2966991]You are right about that, except I as said do not spend more than coffee and cake money on a first date, as I think that is basically counterproductive. Both time and moneywise.

The best way to use Tinder in places like this, where cheap alternatives are so easily available, is IMO to not expect much, and use neither much time nor money on it. Use it while riding the exercise bike in the gym, waiting for food, relaxing with a cup of coffee, or sitting in a taxi. If you match up with someone, she wants to meet, and you end up banging her, great. If not, book grab to the Classic or whatever and less than 30 EUR later, you will be banging some other girl.

Example: my first two days here different online girls turned up each day, and who I went to bed with (one who I liked and want to see again, is probably better looking than anyone at Classic, and has boobs I think might be the 8th wonder of the world). Today a third girl turned up, and while she was younger than I thought (I couldn't remember her age, and when she asked me to guess I thought she was 25, but she said she was 22), she was at least 5 kg overweight, and had the personality of an accountant (which is what she was). While I, after tossing a virtual coin, made a very half-hearted suggestion of us going up to my room at the end, I didn't really care that she said no. 10 minutes later I was walking over to Classic, where I fucked a 20 yo in the ass.

And in reference to Classic: while 15:30 is hardly the ideal time to turn up, 23:30 is not ideal either. Choosing between one of them, 15:30 is definitely more my cup of tea. No smoke at that time either. I'm guessing around 6 pm has to be the best time.[/QUOTE]Haha, well played!

I've spent so much time in Asia having previously lived there for the better part of two decades, I really have zero interest in spas, high end clubs, escorts and so forth. I enjoy the challenge of bedding a non-pro from one of the apps I mentioned, or some girl I met at a mall or myriad other places on the ground. Classic is always there as a very reliable backup, and I agree with you, I'd prefer to get there early as opposed to late. No rush and many more choices as they come and go.