Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=TattooedTuna;2990551]I know, but this is the best I can do for nowtoo much weighing me down at the moment. At least I'll get a taste of Brazil so I can plan a longer, more prepared trip next time. Luckily, I scored in & out redeye biz class tickets with my miles, so I should be able to catch some rest on the way! Can't wait.[/QUOTE]You can consider getting an open-jaw ticket by returning to your home country from Rio. Then it is very doable with short amount of time.

BTW, the visa fee is about 80 USD, not 40 as you indicated

[QUOTE=Nounce;2990566]You can consider getting an open-jaw ticket by returning to your home country from Rio. Then it is very doable with short amount of time.

BTW, the visa fee is about 80 USD, not 40 as you indicated[/QUOTE]I was considering that, but I was limited by the availability of reward tickets and could only book in and out of São Paulo. Appreciate the correction on the visa fee, good to know! Thanks so much!

I managed to extend my Brazil trip by one more day! I was able to change my flight to depart tomorrow and now I'll be arriving on 3/20. The only dilemma is that my Amazon orders—like a sling bag, power adapter, etc. —won't arrive in time. I'm debating whether I should grab these in the USA Before leaving or if they'll be easy to find in São Paulo. I'll be staying in Moema—any recommendations on where to pick up essentials like these?

I went back 20 pages reading all the posts and tried to make a consolidated reference doc. I will be in SP for about 7 days and have zero experience there (though I have 15 ish in FKK, CR, DR, MDE, and other latic countries). No clue why I have never been to Brazil yet, but I'm going to set up a week long trip.

To be clear, thanks to everyone else do did all the hard work here, I just worked to consolidate it for trip. At any rate, can anyone gut check this and tell me if my numbers / lists look right?

A few points I was unclear on was the pricing in the clinicas and whether my numbers are "all-in" or if there are 2 separate fees in some cases (like the clinica, you pay the girl and then the location, which means the all in is higher).

Also, I do understand there seems to be a trade-off between spots close to the clinicas (having noise and lower prices) vs more expensive hotels that are quieter. I am a light sleeper, but I also am not a fan of spending 45 minutes in a taxi to visit a massage place.

My ideal trip is maybe 1 massage place per day and then 3-5 nights to experience each of the night clubs in the list:

[B]So Paulo[/B]

# 1. Accommodation.

# Hotels.

- [B]Bourbon So Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Hotel / Wyndham So Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Plaza Hotel[/B]:

- Location: Moema district, near Ibirapuera Shopping Mall and Congonhas Airport (CGH).

- Rooms: 600-672 soundproof rooms with free WiFi, air conditioning, cable TV, electronic safe, and mini-bar.

- Amenities: Indoor swimming pool, fitness center, steam room, sauna, business center, 16 event venues.

- Dining: Multiple options including Fenix Bar, Ipe lobby bar, and Igueira restaurant.

- Price Range: From are $265 (USD $48) per night.

- Additional Features: 24-hour front desk, room service, parking (self and valet), express check-in / out.

- [B]DoubleTree by Hilton So Paulo Itaim[/B]:

- Location: Itaim Bibi, known for its vibrant dining scene.

- Rooms: Spacious and modern, some may feel cramped.

- Features: Excellent breakfast service, quiet environment.

- Internet: Requires frequent re-registration.

- Price Range: are $425-are $640 (USD $77-USD $116) per night.

- [B]Mercure So Paulo Alamedas[/B]:

- Location: Near Avenida Paulista.

- Issues: Construction noise reported, weak WiFi signal.

- Price Range: are $500-are $750 (USD $91-USD $136) per night.

- [B]Grand Mercure So Paulo Itaim[/B]:

- Location: Itaim Bibi.

- Issues: Severe construction noise reported, weak WiFi signal.

- Price Range: are $500-are $750 (USD $91-USD $136) per night.

# Condo Hotel.

- [B]Allure Moema[/B]:

- Address: Av. Dos Imars, 508, Moema.

- Features: Modern studio apartments, double-paned glass, modern appliances.

- Price: are $300 (USD $55) per night.

- Proximity: 4-minute walk to clinics like Prime, Miruna, and Abbobhrs; 7-minute Uber to Congonhas Airport (CGH).

- Amenities: Beach tennis court, party hall, swimming pool, gym, 24-hour bilingual reception.

# Airbnb.

- Price Range: are $150-are $225 (USD $27-USD $41) per night for studios.

- Tip: Email hosts to confirm soundproofing features.

# 2. Entertainment & Activities.

# Nightlife & Bars (Boates).

- [B]Scandallo Lounge[/B]:

- Address:

- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/A659oQmcR3u3K6G57[/URL].

- Hours: Open daily from noon to early morning (Monday 12 pm-4 am, Tuesday-Friday 12 pm-5 am, Saturday 12 pm-4 am).

- Entry Fee: are $200 (USD $36) for men (includes are $100 for drinks), are $50 (USD $9) for women.

- Session Fee: are $900-1000 (USD $164-USD $182) for 1 hour.

- Best Days: Tuesday to Thursday.

- Tips: Arrive before 7 PM to avoid cover charge, dress to impress.

- [B]Casaro Augusta[/B]:

- Address:

- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/eZ2fKzXcH3Q6Wog17[/URL].

- Hours: Opens and closes late, good every day except Sunday and Monday.

- Entry Fee: are $10 (USD $1. 80), includes two drinks.

- Drink Prices: are $15 (USD $2. 70) for you, are $30-are $50 (USD $5. 45-USD $9. 10) for companions.

- Pricing: are $425 (USD $77) for 1 hour, are $300-are $400 (USD $55-USD $73) for 30 minutes, often negotiable to are $300 (USD $55).

- [B]57 House Friends Club[/B]:

- Address:

- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/2H27zcsvHGnJW9KCA[/URL].

- Hours: Open from 12 PM to late evening.

- Entry: No entrance fee reported during an early Friday visit.

- Talent: Around 9 girls present at 6 PM, mostly 22-29 years old, some up to 35.

- Pricing: are $250-330 (USD $45-USD $60) for 1 hour, are $240 (USD $44) for half an hour before 8 PM (rooms included).

# 3. Massage Locations (Clinicas).

# High-End Options.

- [B]Sharon Premium[/B]:

- Easy website booking via WhatsApp.

- Opens early (around 10 AM or 11 AM).

- [B]Baronesas[/B]:

- Website available, WhatsApp booking.

- Early opening hours (around 10 AM or 11 AM).

- [B]Taj Mahal[/B]:

- Website browsing and WhatsApp booking available.

- [B]Lotus Lounge[/B]:

- Online presence with easy booking process.

- [B]The Palms[/B]:

- Limited online information.

- Visit in person when they open (around 12 PM).

- Pricing: are $700-are $800 (USD $127-USD $145) for session, additional are $400 (USD $73) to the girl.

- [B]Oro[/B]:

- Minimal online presence.

- Visit at opening time (around 12 PM).

# Mid-Tier Options.

- [B]Anavrin[/B]:

- Price similar to Prime.

- Excellent website with easy advance booking.

- Opens at 9 AM on Saturdays.

- Classic wood floor apartment vibe.

- [B]Prime Massagem[/B]:

- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/itbPvuvg259GT4rg9[/URL].

- [B]Miruna[/B]:

- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/4sxBrVP621ShFyf68[/URL] (Not Maruna).

- [B]Abbbora[/B]:

- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/n55rLKJLTS7ZCm7cA[/URL].

- [B]Tangara[/B].

# 4. Transportation.

- Metro: are $4. 40 (USD $0. 80) per ride, not 24/7.

- Uber: Recommended for nightlife venues.

# 5. Safety & Tips.

- Be cautious of pickpockets in public transport and areas like Rua Augusta.

- Use ATMs inside banks to avoid skimming fraud.

- WhatsApp is commonly used for bookings at massage spots and private clubs.

- Tipping (optional):

- Bartenders / Waiters: are $5 (USD $0. 90) to are $20 (USD $3. 65).

- Hotel Staff: are $10 (USD $1. 80) to are $20 (USD $3. 65).

[QUOTE=TheCane;2989668]That's a great strategy Tochka! I'm an early bird guy and don't like to wait until late to see who is on the stroll. So, you're saying it's OK to actually hang around on the hotel side without having to pay anything to be in there? If that's true then I would definitely do that and go after the ones I like before they even hit the main stroll! I wouldn't care about "losing the illusion" either. It would be a turn on for me actually to see the "girl next door" turn herself into an "anal hoor"![/QUOTE]Hi everyone,

So I will arrive to SP this Saturday in the afternoon, I live on Wednesday morning. However it is a work trip, so I will not have much free time and I'm on a budget. My guess is that I will only have Saturday night and Sunday afternoon / night for some fun.

From reading some of the posts here, I'm thinking I should check out Scandallo, Casarao or 57 friends (probably only one of them, on Saturday night), then I'm thinking a CLínica or finding someone to come to my hotel on Sunday. So my questions are:

1) what do you think of this plan? Any other thing I should consider?

2) Since I'm on a budget, if I decide to go to scandallo, I would need to go early (I believe there is no entrance fee if arrive before a particular time, correct?) If so what time should I arrive there? What about Casarao and 57 friends, thinking I might only be able to go to one. I'm curious about scandallo early, even if it is for to see the ladies as price seems high. Then go to Casarao for some action. Thoughts?

3) Any tips on CLínicas or places to find someone that can come to my hotel or that I can go to her place?

4) Has anyone used PaySend to pay directly to Pix? I researched and it says it works to make pix payments.

5) If I only have Us Dollars, what is the exchange rate of dealing directly with the ladies?

Thanks a lot and if anyone is in SP this weekend let me know!

A week away from my flight. Can someone give me the names of clinicas, spa within walking distance of each other. Vila Olympia, vila Mariana, and moema? Or any other places in addition to.

[QUOTE=MikeKelimir;2990810]A few points I was unclear on was the pricing in the clinicas[/QUOTE]Most numbers mentioned here are all-in but you may need to pay the girl separately in more expensive places. There is no free entry at Scandallo. You got too many numbers wrong for me to correct them.

57 is just a clinica by day and boate by night. It is owned by the same group that owns several other clinicas nearby. It does have a very friendly English speaking manager Julie. Besides that, there is nothing special about it. You get similar daytime setup at Tagara and Yankins.

Hi there.

Currently planning my first trip to Sao Paulo for June. Deciding between Mercure Moema Times Square and an Airbnb. The Airbnb is near to the Museo do Futebol further north in the city.

If I book the best room class at this hotel or I book Airbnb, price is pretty much the same. But the Airbnb is significantly nicer at least on photos. Would welcome any views on location plus Airbnb vs hotel. Normally I generally go Airbnb in other cities but I know security with guests is very high in some condos. The host has confirmed they allow 1 guest but not sure how much of a nightmare it will be trying to check in a drunk bar girl past an overzealous condo security at 3 am.

My plan is 1 x per night at one of the boates and a clinica visit each day. I prefer overnight sessions from the clubs rather than onsite. Aside from that, good restaurants is a priority.

Thanks in advance!

Ola bom DIA, can anyone recommend a nice airbnb in the Moema area? One where there will not be any problems bring back ladies.

Any recommendations will be appreciated. I ususlly sat in hotels but I would like to try an airbnb.

[QUOTE=TattooedTuna;2990764]I managed to extend my Brazil trip by one more day! I was able to change my flight to depart tomorrow and now I'll be arriving on 3/20. The only dilemma is that my Amazon orderslike a sling bag, power adapter, etc. won't arrive in time. I'm debating whether I should grab these in the USA Before leaving or if they'll be easy to find in So Paulo. I'll be staying in Moema. Any recommendations on where to pick up essentials like these?[/QUOTE]You can try the Ibirupuera Shopping Center in Moema.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2990900]Most numbers mentioned here are all-in but you may need to pay the girl separately in more expensive places. There is no free entry at Scandallo. You got too many numbers wrong for me to correct them.

[/QUOTE]I will make one correction:

[QUOTE=MikeKelimir;2990810]

# 3. Massage Locations (Clinicas).

# High-End Options.

- [B]The Palms[/B]:

- Limited online information.

- Visit in person when they open (around 12 PM).

- Pricing: are $700-are $800 (USD $127-USD $145) for session, additional are $400 (USD $73) to the girl.

[/QUOTE]350 BR paid directly to the girl after the session / 400 BR (it might be 450 BR now) to the house before you leave. CC's are accepted at the front desk.

Clinicas and major boates are pretty straight forward with their pricings. I have never seen gringo pricing, you pay what the locals pay. Clinicas are fixed prices. Girls in the boates may have a high initial ask and you just have negotiate down to the standard range. All prices in Brazil are in Brazilian Reales. I have never used USD $ cash to pay girls or establishments. I'm not saying you can't, but it's not commonly done. I remember a recent report that 57 friends accepted USD.

[QUOTE=DonKey82;2990930]Hi there.

Currently planning my first trip to Sao Paulo for June. Deciding between Mercure Moema Times Square and an Airbnb. The Airbnb is near to the Museo do Futebol further north in the city.

If I book the best room class at this hotel or I book Airbnb, price is pretty much the same. But the Airbnb is significantly nicer at least on photos. Would welcome any views on location plus Airbnb vs hotel. Normally I generally go Airbnb in other cities but I know security with guests is very high in some condos. The host has confirmed they allow 1 guest but not sure how much of a nightmare it will be trying to check in a drunk bar girl past an overzealous condo security at 3 am.

My plan is 1 x per night at one of the boates and a clinica visit each day. I prefer overnight sessions from the clubs rather than onsite. Aside from that, good restaurants is a priority.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]High security in condos are welcomed by the girls. Most online girls will only go to condos with security. Receptions where visitors have to submit ID, even photos and fingerprints, biometric facial scans are the norm in SP. Girls expect that and it is a sign of the quality of the condo building. The reception are employed by the condo owners, the staff tend to be very pleasant and helpful in my experience.

While I mostly prefer to meet girls in person for no surprises, I'm still curious. What website or app is best for calling a girl from online over to my place? High or medium-end women only. If it's a women I never met, I prefer she be from a reputable website or that she has reviews / online presence.

From the reports I have heard entryr is free before 7 pm. Also free meal before 7 pm. Finally after 7 pm is entry free, 200,400 or 500. It's been numerous quotes. Is there a good crowd of women before 7 pm, throughout the day, or basically majority comes after 11 pm.