Jakarta

[QUOTE=Kukooo;2967532]What is this Grab Feel plus plus? I have not heard of this thing before or could find much on internet?[/QUOTE]There's no such thing. Just someone's sick idea of a joke.

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[QUOTE=Kukooo;2967532]What is this Grab Feel plus plus? I have not heard of this thing before or could find much on internet?[/QUOTE]Its like the secret menu at In and Out. You need to unlock it with the right code words.

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[QUOTE=Delbo1;2967447]I have to agree I see the same unrealistic posts coming from the same members such as bedding SA girls for free and threesomes that were the best they ever had to meeting non pros from dating websites. I'm a decent looking 35 year old white guy and I'm not seeing the same results. My 1st trip was great. 2nd trip wasn't I'the put that down to arriving just after Ramadan and posted that I didn't have a good trip. I had 3 somes and it was a waste of time.

What is it that Occam's razor says? That the most simplest explanation is the most likely one..in other words it didn't happen.[/QUOTE]Well I guess you must be right. If YOU (especially being WHITE) haven't got the same results, surely NOBODY can. You must be right. The ONLY option in Jakarta are Brothels and Spas. Everything else is just BS. And of course its totally impossible to get a decent threesome even at those places. Everyone who says otherwise is surely blowing smoke. Good for you for calling it out and warning other innocent mongers. Your service to the community is truly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2967303]Yeah. Classic is such great value for money, with so many girls under one roof, that one might be forgiven for thinking what is the point of even trying to meet normal girls during anything less than a month's stay here.
It's still a healthy thing to do I think, even if the date fails and you have to go to Classic at the end of the evening instead. I can't help thinking if all you meet are hookers it's probably going to affect you in a negative way after a while.

And sometimes you meet someone, who, even during a short stay, you're happy to see again. To do something else with also, other than only hopping in bed.[/QUOTE]Exactly right. Believe it or not, one does tire of banging hookers at some point. Much rather score, usually repeatedly, with a non-pro girl who enjoys the fun as much as you do.

[QUOTE=Kukooo;2967532]What is this Grab Feel plus plus? I have not heard of this thing before or could find much on internet?[/QUOTE]I grabbed a feel recently, and it led to some plus plus.

Though it may have been on a Gojek.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2967537]Well I guess you must be right. If YOU (especially being WHITE) haven't got the same results, surely NOBODY can. You must be right. The ONLY option in Jakarta are Brothels and Spas. Everything else is just BS. And of course its totally impossible to get a decent threesome even at those places. Everyone who says otherwise is surely blowing smoke. Good for you for calling it out and warning other innocent mongers. Your service to the community is truly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Damn it, it's taken years to get outsiders to only venture to Classic, Travel and Emporium and not even consider going elsewhere. Heck, we even had to wait years till Lokasari and surrounds had all the fun places die off leaving just the 'street scene'. And just about everyone has forgotten about Stadium. Ok well not everyone, but you get the point.

Keep this up and they might venture away from Mangga Besar and Pasa Baru areas.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2967536]Mate, this 'ExpatAmerican' twat is a complete fraud, as has been discussed before on here. There's zero chance he slept with anyone from SA for free, and neither will anyone else. Good you decided to cancel, the site is totally unnecessary and very expensive (by Indo standards). If you have any game at all, you can do just as well finding hot young ladies who are willing to play on the other apps we discussed. Willing women are everywhere in Jakarta, on the train, in the malls, in the 'regular' bars, online. Anyone who would resort to SA and pay what they charge is very foolish in my opinion.[/QUOTE]SA is not my cup of tea I either I think, though I will not completely rule out something I have never tried. I do however not share your opinion of EA. I find his posts useful and believable, including his latest explenation about how the free SA date came about.

In other news: after not seeing mamasan Chacha even once in Classic, even though I've been there almost every day for a week now, I finally saw her there today. She said she'd been away for three days. I was so happy I even asked for her WhatsApp, proposed she join me and her girl for a threesome, and gave her a tip even though she did not join us. One of the girls in her flock now is BTW an unusually pretty 18 year old girl who said she's been working there two weeks. She was sweet and did her job well, but I had a rather hard time getting my will with her, and at the end tipped hour double of what I usually tip at Classic for good service (200,000, instead of 100,000) as an appreciation.

Say what you will, but Chacha is the only mamasan there who does not actively repulse me, and I actually enjoy talking with her, and even her touching me in a friendly way. It is only after having suffered the other mamasans for an entire week I fully appreciate how much more decent she is.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2967515]I find a huge difference between SA girls and Classic girls. The SA girls I have been with have all been educated, professional jobs and spoke fluent English. They have been Engineers, Business Owners, Graphic Designers, Tech employees and Students, Ages ranged from 22 to 30.


Freebies are probably not common, but they can happen. I didn't go on there looking for freebies. It just happened that one of the girls was married and just looking for fun on the side. She had her own business, own car etc and 2 m IDR would have been an insult. She was into the sex, we had awesome chemistry and it just worked out.

[/QUOTE]Ok, thanks for the explanation. My preference, or interest, is, at least so far in life, quite different from yours then.

I expected SA girls to be more educated and english speaking than girls at Classic, but I don't really care if the girl I paid to bang is a doctor or girl that left school after high school and is now 'ho-ing full-time (sans the presumed increased risk of STDs). She's still just a 'ho that I'm paying to bang and pretend she likes me.

"Engineers, Business Owners, Graphic Designers, Tech employees and Students" . Those things would only start to matter to me if it was some type of ongoing relationship, where it's nice if you can enjoy other things together too. E. g. Chef girl who I met here this time, and is the only girl who I've seen more than once during my two trips to Jakarta, I enjoy spending time with. But since I'm not interested in that with neither SA, nor Classic girls, nor anyone else I'm paying, it naturally does not matter much to me if she's a an engineer or high school drop-out.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2967357]Pickings were rather slim at 15:15 today, and I had to sit and idle for 10-15 minutes, waiting for more girls to arrive, before a mamasan brought forwards two girls together who were obviously friends. I had not planned a threesome, as I don't have much experience with that or how to gauge the girls willingness to engage. As we all know, we're not going to get any lesbian p4 p stuff here in Asia, bar exceptional circumstances which an old poster on the Thailand forum (Syzigies, or something like that) were able to pull out of his magic hat, but neither do I want an experience where I have to change condom every time I put my dick in a different pussy or mouth. Thus my previous threesome here at Classic involved a girl I had already fucked and got along well in, who I the next time let choose a friend.

Today was different, as I knew neither girls from before, but the threesome is such a great value for money at Classic that I had to consider it. Also I don't have time to take one girl now to get rapport with her, and come back some other day for a threesome with her. I interviewed them a little bit, trying to get a feeling for things. One of them, Nia, looked rather more thai than indonesian, and spoke English very well. She said she had a midwife degree, and it was because of that. After a minute or two of considering, I nodded ok to mamasan for two girls, paid up the 510,000, and of to the room we went.

Nia's friend spoke no English and was pretty distant and cold, but I did my best to warm her up. I sometimes fail, but if I make an effort I'm decently good at that. She was slow to warm up with me, so things were progressing rather slow with her, while rapport with Nia was good. Nia asked if I wanted to finish once or twice, to which I truthfully answered I was not sure, we will see. We then started with a blowjob, with the mandatory tissue wiping in between them alternating turns as expected. I however did my best to in a playful way limit this to a minimum, and eventually I also got Nia's friend laughing sometimes, though I joked many times that she was an angry girl..[/QUOTE]May I ask Nia is in T2 or T5?

One of the most memorable instances of my sex life happened in HK some years back. In a bar, a demure looking girl who I found out later was an accountant looked at me with clear expression of interest. Her guy "friend" showed up later and while she was in the toilet showed me pics of her with random guys having sex, and told me she likes to pick up guys. "No money" he reassured me. When she came back he lifted her skirt to show she wasn't wearing panties. And then urged me to dry hump her there. We followed on with me fingering her while she smoked, on the street (can't quite remember how I managed to get away with that as it wasn't a quiet street) and her giving a great blow job while the guy watched in the back of their SUV. I was game to go back for round two to their place but she claimed tiredness, and whether she gave me the wrong contact details or I took them down wrong, I don't know but I never got to see her again.

Got to say the excitement of having non-pros is something else. Next time I come to Jakarta, I'm definitely going to try getting freebies in malls, tinder, etc.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2967598]Ok, thanks for the explanation. My preference, or interest, is, at least so far in life, quite different from yours then.

I expected SA girls to be more educated and english speaking than girls at Classic, but I don't really care if the girl I paid to bang is a doctor or girl that left school after high school and is now 'ho-ing full-time (sans the presumed increased risk of STDs). She's still just a 'ho that I'm paying to bang and pretend she likes me.

"Engineers, Business Owners, Graphic Designers, Tech employees and Students" . Those things would only start to matter to me if it was some type of ongoing relationship, where it's nice if you can enjoy other things together too. E. g. Chef girl who I met here this time, and is the only girl who I've seen more than once during my two trips to Jakarta, I enjoy spending time with. But since I'm not interested in that with neither SA, nor Classic girls, nor anyone else I'm paying, it naturally does not matter much to me if she's a an engineer or high school drop-out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2967598]Ok, thanks for the explanation. My preference, or interest, is, at least so far in life, quite different from yours then.

I expected SA girls to be more educated and english speaking than girls at Classic, but I don't really care if the girl I paid to bang is a doctor or girl that left school after high school and is now 'ho-ing full-time (sans the presumed increased risk of STDs). She's still just a 'ho that I'm paying to bang and pretend she likes me.

"Engineers, Business Owners, Graphic Designers, Tech employees and Students" . Those things would only start to matter to me if it was some type of ongoing relationship, where it's nice if you can enjoy other things together too. E. g. Chef girl who I met here this time, and is the only girl who I've seen more than once during my two trips to Jakarta, I enjoy spending time with. But since I'm not interested in that with neither SA, nor Classic girls, nor anyone else I'm paying, it naturally does not matter much to me if she's a an engineer or high school drop-out.[/QUOTE]Hey, you can do what works best for you of course. My point is they are different. And the SA girls all enjoyed the sex (and the date) just like I did. With the right SA girl, they are not doing a "job". Its really a different experience. Its fine if you don't want to try it but its not at all the same thing as Classic any more than McDonalds is the same as Ruths Chris. Both may be beef and both leave you full at the end but the experience is totally different. I'm not against Classic, its a great place for what it is. But there is more (and IMHO better) things in Jakarta than that. That's all I was trying to say.

Hot damn! I just got back from Classic T2 and have to write this report while it's still fresh:

Dec 13.8 pm.

I just landed in Jakarta from Phnom Penh after 4 days of lackluster mongering due to the high price and dead fish girls. I spent $500 in Phnom Penh with nothing to write about (you can read my report in that sub).

Thanks to Werqweq's report, I took a Grab to Classic and asked the parking guy which one is better T2 or T5. He said T2, T2 it is. I went up the escalator and asked the doorman for ChaCha; luckily, she's in T2 and working tonight. He went and got her for me. I asked if she knows Nia and she used her laser pointer pointed to her. I'm a big boob kind of guy so Nia wasn't my type but I'm after that threesome Werqweq wrote about; beside, her face is cute.

I asked her if she's Nia (I had in the past some girl just said yes to whatever name I asked just to get the business in Vietnam), and she spoke passable English for me to understand. I told her "the guy from Thailand" told me about you and your friend and I want the same deal. She laughed and said sure but her friend is busy right now. I told her to just pick a girl that she's comfortable with, she picked a 19 years old girl who spoke no English.

Chacha took me by the hand to the cashier to pay with my CC 500 k IDR ($32.01 to be exact). Holy shit, that's the cheapest threesome I've ever had. I love Indonesian's logic: you get a discount for more girls. In other countries, I have to pay triple or more for threesomes.

We went past the pool tables and she asked if I know "that guy from Thailand" personally. I told her that I just read Werqweq's report and follow his advise, she laughed and laughed. That broke the ice.

In the room, the normal routine: wash, Listerine my mouth, then my dick. I had Nia sucking my dick and she went straight to deepthroat and gagged herself. That girl doesn't know how to suck, just went straight gagging then came up for air. I then had Nia licking my balls while her friend sucking my dick. Then I had them swap, out came the Listerine and paper tissues for cleaning. Follow Werqweq's advise, I jokingly said I'm losing wood with all this cleaning that stopped the cleaning.

I'm not brave enough to go "sin condom" and Nia appreciated that, she said "that guy from Thailand" cum in her and she didn't like it. Please don't cum in her!

Condom went on, I had Nia ride me while I play with her friend's pussy. I then say swap and Nia's friend reach for another condom, I told Nia no, no swapping condom and just went straight into her pussy, that stopped the swapping condoms.

While I fucked her friend missionary, I kissed her and had Nia's mouth near by. I alternately kissed them both, her friend was hesitant at first but with my dick in her, I think she lost touch with reality and didn't care. I had Nia face right next to her face and slowly moving their mouths closer to each other until the three of us were swapping spits. Then I put their mouths together and they kissed. I think I just went to heaven, whatever fantasy of me watching two girls kissing on the internet was happening in front of me and I'm a part of it. Holy molly!

So mouths, pussies, fingers went into mouths, pussies, fingers in no particular orders without hesitation. No mouth to pussy just so you know!

I had one on her back, the other kneeling on top and I went in both holes alternately until I nutted on her stomach.

We cleaned up and I tipped Nia 300 k, she asked for more but I said "that Thailand guy" said 200 k. That shut her up. I tipped the other girl 200 k and said because no English, she laughed. I laughed and gave her another 100 k.

I'm planning on coming back tomorrow and ask for Nia again. I'll use her as my personal interpreter with another girl.

Once again, I want to thank Werqweq for the detail report that even though it's my first time in Jakarta I didn't go to the wrong place or pick the wrong girl.

Jakarta is now my most favorite!

[QUOTE=LetMeIn6969;2967605]May I ask Nia is in T2 or T5?[/QUOTE]T2. I think she is one of Chacha's girls, but I'm not sure since another mama brought her over, but it was a mama that was hanging around the location that Chacha normally stays at. Since I today found out Chacha had been away for some days, I'm guessing that mama was substituting for her. I also think I saw Nia's friend sitting there today, but did not notice Nia.

Chacha's location, and the location I think I saw her friend sitting at today is found like this: enter the room, and continue going straight as long as you can. Chacha's girls will be the girls on your immediate right hand side.