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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2549179]By laws the 7-day FMM is free. Mr. E just reported that Mexican imm let his Dominican friend go through without charging while gringos with their bullshit dentist stories are charged $30 each.

Weak guys keep promoting giving them the easy money to cross. They are only encouraging crimes and abuses of authority. These weak guys are even afraid of rude and demanding HK meseros and are likely to take their pants down and present their hairy anus to pleasure those rude meseros hehe.[/QUOTE]So true. Some people just need to grow a set. I really didn't want to type all this, but in the interest of combating corruption and extortion in Mexico, here's my story:

Early on, when they started this crap, I had occasion to cross the border on foot (normally do by car but this time I was walking). I walked in the Mexican National line just like I always do when on foot, and this little "Napoleon" pulled me out of the line and sent me to the office in the back. The thick neck at the desk demanded that I buy a $30 FMM. I basically told him to fuck off.

He said, "Then you must return to the US".

I said, "Okay, chief, but just so you know, my money returns with me. " (I never mention that I already live in Mexico because that just starts another shitshow I want no part of).

So, he threw me in the "rubber room" next door to piss me off (which he succeeded grandly) and try to intimidate me. I was in there for about an hour and heard him extort fake fees from several travelers. At one point, another thick neck opened the door to the rubber room, for some reason, and left it ajar for a couple of minutes. Through the door, I saw the thick neck behind the desk extort the $30 from some hapless traveler and put it in a cash drawer inside his desk drawer. As soon as the traveler's back was turned and he was out of the room, thick neck reached in the drawer, removed the $30 and stuck it in his pocket.

Finally two thick necks came and escorted me all the way to the US checkpoint (because I am a dangerous man and not to be trusted on the loose in Mexico). I walked to the US agent at a booth and he asked me why I had been in Mexico.

"I haven't been to Mexico," I said.

Of course, he challenged that statement and I told him what had just happened and that thick neck tried to make me pay $30 for a FMM.

"They can't do that," he said.

"Then you go tell them that," I said.

I made a you-turn outside the CBP compound and went right back into the Mexican line. This time I went up to the tourist desk instead of walking in the Mexican National line.

The guy at the desk apparently recognized me and said, "Why did the other guy turn you back?

"Because I wouldn't pay him a $30 mordida to cross," I said.

He just rolled his eyes and said, "Go ahead ", and waved me on through.

He didn't even look at my passport.

I know for a fact the 180-day FMM is a scam and every dollar is going into crooked border agents' pockets. I've witnessed it firsthand and have the word of agents on both sides of the border that it is in fact a scam.

So, hopefully, you guys will stop subsidizing their racket. Then, again, as you noted, Captain, some people just need to grow a set--and some never do.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2547651]What would you experienced experts judge my chances at BBBJ and BBFS? If chances are low, I just can't imagine going and having fun.[/QUOTE]I'm not an experienced expert at mongering by any means, but I have dated several bar girls and yes, it's possible. For example, last night I was out with a bar girl (second date). After dinner, we retired to my jacuzzi, sin ropa. After about 30 minutes of wiggling her ass around it, she grabbed my cock and shoved it inside her. There was no discussion--none was needed. After she got her rocks off in the hot tub, she said, "Papi, let's go fuck!" Minutes later in the cama, she was screaming, "Baby, I love your cock!

So, I'm like, "I'm going to take this chick downtown to pound town. " Several screaming-O's later, she collapsed on top of my chest, comatose, purring like a kitten. I let her purr for a couple of hours (they appreciate that), then I rolled her over and sowed my seed deep inside her. So, yeah, it's possible. And very satisfying. Neither of us moved another muscle for the rest of the night.

YMMV.

[QUOTE=ScottHall;2549210]They got me for the 30. I'm fairly young. There were 3 other guys in their 20's in the office, they looked like kids. There was an older gentleman in front of me that was easily waived through. It appears that they're profiling younger guys and taxing them. Hopefully this "permit" allows you to cross easily in the local line.[/QUOTE]Not sure why there are so many complaints about the $30 fmm. True you really shouldn't have to buy it if you are only going as far as Tijuana and your visit is 7 days or less. But due to the pandemic and essential travel rules they kind of discovered a way to force some to make the purchase.

As far as I'm concerned pandemic or no pandemic I have always been happy to purchase it. A $30 6 month pass to adult Disneyland with no paperwork or waiting in line or answering questions is well worth it. If you can't afford it you probably should stay home and save your money.

And yes Scott now that you have the fmm just walk in the Mexican only line and flash your fmm and it is clear sailing, no worries about fake excuses or being denied entry.

[QUOTE=UncleAl;2548938]I've been going back and forth since covid and flying all over Mexico from in state Mexico. There's no test required to walk back.

All they ask what did you do there and are you bring anything back that's it.

Just declare if you have anything very simple and you must wear a mask now its federal law no biggie I always wore one.[/QUOTE]Milkys Uncle Al?

[quote]Not sure why there are so many complaints about the $30 fmm. True you really shouldn't have to buy it if you are only going as far as Tijuana and your visit is 7 days or less. But due to the pandemic and essential travel rules they kind of discovered a way to force some to make the purchase.

As far as I'm concerned pandemic or no pandemic I have always been happy to purchase it. A $30 6 month pass to adult Disneyland with no paperwork or waiting in line or answering questions is well worth it. If you can't afford it you probably should stay home and save your money.

And yes Scott now that you have the fmm just walk in the Mexican only line and flash your fmm and it is clear sailing, no worries about fake excuses or being denied entry. [/quote]I bought one, great investment. They are getting stricter both walking and driving into Mexico. There is no reason to flight this battle.

[QUOTE=BaxterSlade;2549233]Not sure why there are so many complaints about the $30 fmm. True you really shouldn't have to buy it if you are only going as far as Tijuana and your visit is 7 days or less. But due to the pandemic and essential travel rules they kind of discovered a way to force some to make the purchase..[/QUOTE]I will be traveling to Tijuana next week for 6 days with my large duffle bag. Is Mexico still following essential travel rules? I thought everything was open now. Do you think I will have a problem if I tell them I am on vacation. I could stay in SD and just cross the border every other day for my dental and doctor's visits.

[QUOTE=HoLover1;2549274]I will be traveling to Tijuana next week for 6 days with my large duffle bag. Is Mexico still following essential travel rules? I thought everything was open now. Do you think I will have a problem if I tell them I am on vacation. I could stay in SD and just cross the border every other day for my dental and doctor's visits.[/QUOTE]Technically the border is still closed for non-essential travel until April 21 (or 23), and this is being extended each month. Medical / Dental fall under essential travel and that is your best excuse -- or you can say you are an essential worker (IT, Engineer) visiting on assignment.

[QUOTE=BabeMagnet;2549216]So true. Some people just need to grow a set. I really didn't want to type all this, but in the interest of combating corruption and extortion in Mexico, here's my story:
[/QUOTE]First of all, you are preaching to the pastor. I am the last person that will give in to cops and chicks. I have been pulled over at least 20 times in Dominican Republic and even had one cop pull out a gun trying to scare me, yet have still given them nothing to this day. I have had chicks want to call the cops over a dispute a few times in different countries and have always called their bluff. It was not until the guy was about to walk me back that I said I would pay the money. And judging from your story, I am glad that I did.

When I go to Tijuana I have more money than time. I only go down for a few hours, so I am not trying to do all that walking back and forth playing those games. And I go often, so I am really not trying to play that game every time I go. Hell, the $30 was worth it to me just to be able to go through the Mexican line and not wait.

The beginning of your story is exactly how I experienced it though. When I was called into the office they put the guy that was there before me in an adjacent room and closed the door. I was wondering what that was all about. It appeared the guy was giving them some type of problem and they were going to show him who the boss was. So it must have been the same deal as you. The guy must have refused to pay. I was not going to pay either until he started walking me back to the border and I was like I didn't want to waste all the time I had already spent getting to the border, so I just decided to pay. In 30 years I have never had any run in with cops in Tijuana like other people have reported.

[QUOTE=ScottHall;2549210]They got me for the 30. I'm fairly young. There were 3 other guys in their 20's in the office, they looked like kids. There was an older gentleman in front of me that was easily waived through. It appears that they're profiling younger guys and taxing them. Hopefully this "permit" allows you to cross easily in the local line.[/QUOTE]Not at all. Me and my buddy are almost 50 and the guys that they were sending to the office were definitely older than us. Yes, the permit has been a blessing to be able to go to the local line. Although I have used it 5 times since January, the only time there has been a wait in the tourist line was 2 days ago. That wait was only a few minutes though. Every other time there was nobody in the line at all.

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[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2549259]I bought one, great investment. They are getting stricter both walking and driving into Mexico. There is no reason to flight this battle.[/QUOTE]Driving into Tijuana is unchanged. Guys who actually go to Tijuana can attest to that. Further, there have been zero reports in the Tijuana threads of issues driving in. If you're speaking of other border crossings or driving into Mexico in a general sense, you should say that because the readers of the Tijuana threads (especially newbies) rely on the information posted in these threads.

[QUOTE=BabeMagnet;2549216]So true. Some people just need to grow a set. I really didn't want to type all this, but in the interest of combating corruption and extortion in Mexico, here's my story:

Early on, when they started this crap, I had occasion to cross the border on foot (normally do by car but this time I was walking). I walked in the Mexican National line just like I always do when on foot, and this little "Napoleon" pulled me out of the line and sent me to the office in the back. The thick neck at the desk demanded that I buy a $30 FMM. I basically told him to fuck off.

He said, "Then you must return to the US".

I said, "Okay, chief, but just so you know, my money returns with me. " (I never mention that I already live in Mexico because that just starts another shitshow I want no part of)..[/QUOTE]I can't help but wonder, what was your plan b if the second Mexican cop denied you free entry again when you re-appeared immediately after being escorted out the first time? Were you going to say fuck it and cough up the $30? Were you going to ask to speak to their manager? Threaten to file a complaint? Pull up a PDF document of the Constitution of Mexico on your phone? Or were you just going to go apeshit and blank out in a fit of rage? Were you prepared to dick around for another hour in the "rubber room", with no guarantee that they'll finally feel sorry for you and let you pass? Just how much of a stand were you prepared to make?

I fully support your stance against corruption, trust me I do. But let's be realistic, 99.9% of mongers on their way to the Zona Norte aren't worried about fighting corruption and social injustice. Heck most mongers already have a raging boner by the time they arrive at the border. At that point they basically have a one track mind and they're not going to let $30 stand in their way.

[QUOTE=Phordphan;2549552]So, you just show them your permanent resident visa (or whatever they call it) and you get in with zero hassle. What's the problem? Oh, wait. I get it. You're living there illegally. Never mind.[/QUOTE]And he made it sound like he won some kind of grand battle against Mexican corruption, as if being detained for an hour by Mexican customs and being sent back / forth to the US is worth measly $30 bucks. Next thing he is going to do is argue over $1 propinas with HK robe boys. Because, you know, is isn't right to have to pay $1 for this.

Whatever. Those who enjoy fighting these silly battles. Have at it. I am just going to pay $30 and enjoy no-hassle entry into MX for the next 6 months!

[QUOTE=Ctytek;2549812]And he made it sound like he won some kind of grand battle against Mexican corruption, as if being detained for an hour by Mexican customs and being sent back / forth to the US is worth measly $30 bucks. Next thing he is going to do is argue over $1 propinas with HK robe boys. Because, you know, is isn't right to have to pay $1 for this.

Whatever. Those who enjoy fighting these silly battles. Have at it. I am just going to pay $30 and enjoy no-hassle entry into MX for the next 6 months![/QUOTE]I see the same behavior from people at work and while I'm out and about. They're more concerned about being right than winning. I'd rather have the latter.

[QUOTE=BabeMagnet;2549216]
I know for a fact the 180-day FMM is a scam and every dollar is going into crooked border agents' pockets. I've witnessed it firsthand and have the word of agents on both sides of the border that it is in fact a scam.
[/QUOTE]The 180-day FMM is not a scam, but you don't pay the money to the agent. There is a bank window where you go to pay. There have been occasions where I have been asked for the FMM and I always have a current one on me. Now, if they take your money and just let you go or don't give you an FMM with an official stamp and and entry date, then it is a scam.