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[QUOTE=Dg8787;2240200]Totally agree with you.
Some dumbass Americans really think the US Marines are going to come soon and break down the prison walls to get them!
The only saving them will be the Army of Benjamins.[/QUOTE]The US embassy did fuck all when a dependent of one of its staff was stabbed to death by a group of rich boys near Rockwell, so be assured they'll do nothing for general population normies unless you're the sister of Lisa Ling, in which case no effort will be spared.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2240200]Totally agree with you.
Some dumbass Americans really think the US Marines are going to come soon and break down the prison walls to get them!
The only saving them will be the Army of Benjamins.[/QUOTE]
Yes, those wallet sized pictures of Benjamin Franklin are desired world wide.
It is only Americans that expect the world will do their bidding or else the USMC will storm ashore to teach the locals to behave with proper servitude.
Years ago I was driving across the border and had to go into the Canadian Customs building to pay tax and duties as I was over my persona exemption limits. There was an American there demanding that he be allowed to bring his guns into Canada, saying it was his second amendment right and besides he needed them to protect himself and his family from the "hordes of hostile injun's that still roamed wild up here". (his exact words) . The dumb ass was saying it to an Customs Officer who definitely looked like he had aboriginal ancestry. Subsequent news reports said he had numerous firearms including restricted and prohibited weapons. No word on how long he was a guest at one of Her Majesty's Iron Bar Hotels.
All any Embassy can do for their nationals incarcerated abroad is make representation to ensure that they are treated properly in accordance with local laws, bring money sent from home for sundry purchases, deliver and pick up mail for home and a few other minor tasks. They cannot and will not interfere in the administration of local justice for a common citizen, they may do some backroom arm twisting for prominent citizens or those especially targeted for more sever punishments due to their nationality as opposed to the crimes they committed but if you are an average citizen and are accused of something that would be a crime that is considered particularly reprehensible back home ( think drug and sex crimes) they will not help you at all. All you can do is put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2240213]Yes, those wallet sized pictures of Benjamin Franklin are desired world wide.[/QUOTE]Thankfully they are!
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2239854]A recent press link. Is well known and has been noted before here but these tend to remind us of how bad it can go and how slow it is to get out of the mire.
[URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/justice-australian-cebu-jail-fie-years/[/URL]
Plenty more example on that news site also.[/QUOTE]Great reading! The monger walked into that one. It was a bad idea to let friends of his girlfriend travel together with him, if he is in fact innocent. He is lucky that they did not have bricks of shabu in their luggage, and finger him as the drug smuggling mastermind. When casual Filipina acquaintances want to tag along with a foreigner, it often does not end well for the foreigner as the average Filipina is easily cowed by their compatriots into fucking over foreigners, and doubly so when said compatriots have a bit of authority. The monger learned the hard way that Filipinas are not his friends just because they grin at him and ask to tag along with him somewhere. They always have a purpose and practical use for the foolish foreigner who allows it. LOL! The poor bastard probably agrees to let his Filipino cell mates tag along to the showers with interesting results.
Read this today and was chuckling to myself as I know a few guys in this position. I have always said that the greed of the family can ruin a relationship. The comments are interesting also. But sadly this way of thinking is all too common and is something that the westerner can't / won't understand an / or accept.
[URL]https://lifestyle.inquirer.net/311253/her-sister-also-wants-an-allowance-from-her-american-husband/[/URL]
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2241367]Read this today and was chuckling to myself as I know a few guys in this position. I have always said that the greed of the family can ruin a relationship. The comments are interesting also. But sadly this way of thinking is all too common and is something that the westerner can't / won't understand an / or accept.
[URL]https://lifestyle.inquirer.net/311253/her-sister-also-wants-an-allowance-from-her-american-husband/[/URL][/QUOTE]It's nice to see the guy is already supporting the mother. Eventually I think the sister will put the pressure on the mother to access the cash flow from that direction. Easier for the mother to request an increase for extra-expenses. The extra cash will flow to the sister.
The guy I screwed.
BD.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2241367]Read this today and was chuckling to myself as I know a few guys in this position. I have always said that the greed of the family can ruin a relationship. The comments are interesting also. But sadly this way of thinking is all too common and is something that the westerner can't / won't understand an / or accept.
[URL]https://lifestyle.inquirer.net/311253/her-sister-also-wants-an-allowance-from-her-american-husband/[/URL][/QUOTE]WR,
I had a few demands over the years. Shot them all down immediately without hesitation, and gave the requester such a look of disgust that no other family members dared to try their luck at the jackpot. The parents get no allowance from me either. I find the idea ridiculous, as I do not provide one to my own parents. It would be stupid to provide some ungrateful Filipino parents an allowance instead of supplementing my parents' retirement or buying them nice presents on special occasions. I tell the Flip parents that charity begins at home, and I need to give my parents before anyone else's.
The American fella already did the family a huge favor when he married the salesgirl and relieved the family of an extra mouth to feed. Furthermore, he is slaving to pay for her visa fees and other costs associated with importing her. Once she gets to the USA, she will remit all her earnings to her lazy greedy family. He will have to support a healthy working adult who will spend money like a drunken sailor. Problems will arise when one or both parties are too tired for sex.
The American left himself open to abuse from the family the second he decided to give handouts to the mother. The free money is never enough for Filipinos, and other relatives start wondering why they are not getting handouts too because they figure the foreigner was stupid enough to fall for the support the parents scam. So, why not the other relatives too? LOL!
I understand and accept that the family may be lazy and greedy. I just refuse to enable and foster these repugnant traits with my hard-earned cash. LOL! Furthermore, it is a myth that elderly Filipinos get no social security. If they had jobs, their employers deducted from their salary for contributions to the plan. The self-employed Filipinos also have the option of contributing to social security pension plan. Those who do not only have themselves to blame. Why should the foreigner pay for their stupidity just because he fucked their daughter? LOL!
Another tidbit that foreign men should know is that destitute Filipino families with minor children receive money from the Department of Social Welfare if they request it. The program is similar to the American welfare system for single mothers. In addition, the barangay captains have funds and rice to help the poor members in the community. They can even provide free lots for building nipa huts in rural areas. Fellas need to live among Filipinos and learn enough of the language to discover these things. Maybe spend less time trying to fuck everyone in the barangay and playing peso millionaire. Once foreigners do this and stop listening to all the lies the natives tell to get handouts, they will discover things are not as dire as the lazy girls want them to believe.
If things were that bad, the girls would have starved to death before their white hero showed up to rescue them. Yet, no one reports seeing Filipinas dropping dead like flies and they continue to breed prodigiously. The girls are getting fatter, and rice bellies are common now in the late teens. That is the result of excess calories, sitting on their asses all day texting, sleeping until noon, and watching Showtime and Borrowed Wife.
A foreign man needs to run a tight ship to have a successful relationship with a Filipina. The fellas who bring out the bamboo and coco lumber as needed do not have such problems.
[URL]https://youtu.be/drgEmBAu0wI[/URL]
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2241367]Read this today and was chuckling to myself as I know a few guys in this position. I have always said that the greed of the family can ruin a relationship. The comments are interesting also. But sadly this way of thinking is all too common and is something that the westerner can't / won't understand an / or accept.
[URL]https://lifestyle.inquirer.net/311253/her-sister-also-wants-an-allowance-from-her-american-husband/[/URL][/QUOTE]Roger,
I'm glad to read that this is currently the wife's problem. That is the way it should stay because as soon as hubby gets involved the situation will become 100 times worse.
The ONLY way I have seen mixed couples successfully manage family finances is where a budget is done on day 1 and wifee receives enough for household expenses she is responsible for, including a fair (but not foolish) inclusion for her pocket money (clothes, entertainment and yes, family). The money and applicable bills are then her responsibility. Hubby never complains or gets involved in where it goes as long as food is on the table and power is connected. There is NEVER an early advance if money is short at the end of the month.
Dying grandmothers, cousins' school fees, new motorbikes or wonderful business opportunities are then her choice and responsibility. Any transferred funds will come out of her spending money, not the family unit's. It is amazing how quickly this will limit the frequency of requests and the shrinkage of the housekeeping money. Obviously it is also 100% stress free for hubby.
For those that ask "what happens when she blows the money by day 3?" Its simple. She is hungry for 27 days. There is no top up.
The lesson will be soon learnt.
It should go without saying that the guy also has some responsibility. He needs to choose someone who is reasonably competent and sensible. He also needs to have enough kahunas to take control of the situation from day one.
Guys that give unlimited access to joint accounts and facilitate an endless outflow of funds for unknown reasons deserve what they end up with: an empty bank account and lost assets.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2240248]Great reading! The monger walked into that one. It was a bad idea to let friends of his girlfriend travel together with him, if he is in fact innocent. He is lucky that they did not have bricks of shabu in their luggage, and finger him as the drug smuggling mastermind. When casual Filipina acquaintances want to tag along with a foreigner, it often does not end well for the foreigner as the average Filipina is easily cowed by their compatriots into fucking over foreigners, and doubly so when said compatriots have a bit of authority. The monger learned the hard way that Filipinas are not his friends just because they grin at him and ask to tag along with him somewhere. They always have a purpose and practical use for the foolish foreigner who allows it. LOL! The poor bastard probably agrees to let his Filipino cell mates tag along to the showers with interesting results.[/QUOTE]Every country has its own laws. Whether it is fair, reasonable, protects citizens is debatable. Still all people including foreigners have to obey. It would be easy to accompany a bunch of girls here in USA on a vacation or whatever. We have basic rights here.
Firstly any of us go for fun with girls to Philippines. And we get lulled into thinking we can do pretty much whatever we want. Even a simple girl can turn into a visceous trying to get you into trouble.
Piece of advice is do not get involved any adventures. Just have fun and get out.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2241471]It should go without saying that the guy also has some responsibility. He needs to choose someone who is reasonably competent and sensible. He also needs to have enough kahunas to take control of the situation from day one.
Guys that give unlimited access to joint accounts and facilitate an endless outflow of funds for unknown reasons deserve what they end up with: an empty bank account and lost assets.[/QUOTE]Wise words indeed. While we are on the subject has anyone taken Reekay's Bachelor course for living in or visiting the Philippines? He seems knowledgeable and helpful.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2241367]Read this today and was chuckling to myself as I know a few guys in this position. I have always said that the greed of the family can ruin a relationship. The comments are interesting also. But sadly this way of thinking is all too common and is something that the westerner can't / won't understand an / or accept.
[URL]https://lifestyle.inquirer.net/311253/her-sister-also-wants-an-allowance-from-her-american-husband/[/URL][/QUOTE]Interestingly everyone is considering that the foreign guy is innocent and totally honest while it is the local girls and officials who are corrupt and dishonest. The implication is that the anti trafficking and drug laws here are not instituted in response to abuses in the past but are an official means to help locals extort money from foreigners.
If this was a local discussion forum the blame would be reversed.
With only knowing limited facts as reported in the press, we have to consider all possibilities. Not every local is a corrupt liar and not every foreigner is an innocent victim of scheming locals.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2241574]Every country has its own laws. Whether it is fair, reasonable, protects citizens is debatable. Still all people including foreigners have to obey. It would be easy to accompany a bunch of girls here in USA on a vacation or whatever. We have basic rights here.
Firstly any of us go for fun with girls to Philippines. And we get lulled into thinking we can do pretty much whatever we want. Even a simple girl can turn into a visceous trying to get you into trouble.
Piece of advice is do not get involved any adventures. Just have fun and get out.[/QUOTE]Great advice! Fly in for a fuck and suck, and fly out alone. Filipinas hide behind their sweet silly smiles and mongers will not know what is going on in their heads until the trap slams shut. Jealousy (selos) and envy (inggit) are a daily part of life in the Philippines. A monger risks making enemies that he is unaware of simply through his involvement with group activities. Paying his girlfriend's way but not doing the same for the friends accompanying her on an adventure is enough to make the friends feel spiteful.
Many mongers have problems staying on mission, which is spray, pay, and away! Let the girls have excursions on their own time and money. Whenever girls ask to tag along, it is because they expect to freeload.
Such good and wise words bro.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2242307]Great advice! Fly in for a fuck and suck, and fly out alone. Filipinas hide behind their sweet silly smiles and mongers will not know what is going on in their heads until the trap slams shut. Jealousy (selos) and envy (inggit) are a daily part of life in the Philippines. A monger risks making enemies that he is unaware of simply through his involvement with group activities. Paying his girlfriend's way but not doing the same for the friends accompanying her on an adventure is enough to make the friends feel spiteful.
Many mongers have problems staying on mission, which is spray, pay, and away! Let the girls have excursions on their own time and money. Whenever girls ask to tag along, it is because they expect to freeload.[/QUOTE]
Is anyone having / had issues booking flights on Cebu Pacific? I'm trying to book USU (Busuanga/Coron) to Clark in Dec '18 and April '19. However, it is showing all flights as unavailable despite the flight existing on their flight paths and Google etc. ??
Also how do PAL handle flights that transit in MNL but show as arrive in MNL but depart from CRK? Do they bus passengers from NAIA to CRK or is it the passengers responsibility?
Thanks. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2242786]Is anyone having / had issues booking flights on Cebu Pacific? I'm trying to book USU (Busuanga/Coron) to Clark in Dec '10 and April '19. However, it is showing all flights as unavailable despite the flight existing on their flight paths and Google etc. ??
Also how do PAL handle flights that transit in MNL but show as arrive in MNL but depart from CRK? Do they bus passengers from NAIA to CRK or is it the passengers responsibility?
Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]I haven't bought tickets online from PAL so my comments only pertain to CP.
CP online has always been a problem from ultra slow to not remember the info inputed.
With that said. I usually go online during Philippine night and early morning hours.
There has been rumors that Palawan might be subject to closing for rehab like Boracay. Airlines and hotels might be reluctant to take bookings. Just my speculations.
This morning I was able to change my booking online without any problems.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2242786]Is anyone having / had issues booking flights on Cebu Pacific? I'm trying to book USU (Busuanga/Coron) to Clark in Dec '18 and April '19. However, it is showing all flights as unavailable despite the flight existing on their flight paths and Google etc. ??
Also how do PAL handle flights that transit in MNL but show as arrive in MNL but depart from CRK? Do they bus passengers from NAIA to CRK or is it the passengers responsibility?
Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]Can only comment on CP. This works well no issues but when I try to book a long time in advance I see issues. I have the same with other low cost / budget airlines and I speculate only is because they don't know what is happening so far in advance so release flights nearer the time.
This is the case with Air Asia at times and I call them to try and get the ticket instead. So try a call but then CP can be painfully slow and annoying and I have at times asked the lady 'are you a parrot' as they repeat all you say and more many times over LOL.
I'm afraid another American has been sent to Cebu City jail. Details are currently sketchy put it seems he was caught up in what he believes was a scam to encourage him to send money for "naughty" pics and then it emerged that the girl involved was 17 IE a minor. He was arrested 18 days ago and spent the first 15 days in a Cebu police cell where he was encouraged (but refused) to use the Police's recommended lawyer for his defense (This is a typical way to "cut a deal" in this situation). I am told he has been charged with a non-bailable offense as the girl involved was a minor. Once the case has been sent to court, the police no longer have discretion to "Cut a deal" so the legal process must play out- at a glacial pace. Non-bailable in this context means that he does not have an automatic right to post bail as he would with a less serious offense. His atty, once he finds one, may still decide it is appropriate to file a motion for bail which will typically take between 6 - 18 months to resolve. If this fails, most cases will take 3 -8 years to be heard. If the offense is indeed non bailable the ultimate penalty is likely to be 20 years to life. I am rather surprised that this is a non bailable offense and there maybe more to the matter than is currently known. Clearly it's an extremely grim situation to get into (he's currently in a cell with around 180 other inmates) so please be very careful.
Separately it was also reported this morning that a Norwegian guy walking around Mango Square, Cebu last night drunk was arrested with a couple of packets of shabu in his pocket. If the quantity was less than 5 g he should be bailable, but if over 5 g he will also be sent to jail on a non bailable charge. In his case a witness supposedly saw a pack fall out of his pocket and reported it to the police which sounds very much like a set up. Given the crackdown on drugs here anyone who knowingly takes them here is running an insane risk. Take care you don't get into a situation where stuff can be planted on you.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2242848]Can only comment on CP. This works well no issues but when I try to book a long time in advance I see issues. I have the same with other low cost / budget airlines and I speculate only is because they don't know what is happening so far in advance so release flights nearer the time.
This is the case with Air Asia at times and I call them to try and get the ticket instead. So try a call but then CP can be painfully slow and annoying and I have at times asked the lady 'are you a parrot' as they repeat all you say and more many times over LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks Roger. I agree on CP's reliability or lack that of.
Just in case anyone else is looking for the same route, despite what all the various sites are saying, they got back to be to say that they are now not servicing the USU CRK or return routes. PAL do however.
Enjoy, G.
[QUOTE=OlderAndWiser;2243176]I'm afraid another American has been sent to Cebu City jail. Details are currently sketchy put it seems he was caught up in what he believes was a scam to encourage him to send money for "naughty" pics and then it emerged that the girl involved was 17 IE a minor. He was arrested 18 days ago and spent the first 15 days in a Cebu police cell where he was encouraged (but refused) to use the Police's recommended lawyer for his defense (This is a typical way to "cut a deal" in this situation). I am told he has been charged with a non-bailable offense as the girl involved was a minor. Once the case has been sent to court, the police no longer have discretion to "Cut a deal" so the legal process must play out- at a glacial pace. Non-bailable in this context means that he does not have an automatic right to post bail as he would with a less serious offense. His atty, once he finds one, may still decide it is appropriate to file a motion for bail which will typically take between 6 - 18 months to resolve. If this fails, most cases will take 3 -8 years to be heard. If the offense is indeed non bailable the ultimate penalty is likely to be 20 years to life. I am rather surprised that this is a non bailable offense and there maybe more to the matter than is currently known. Clearly it's an extremely grim situation to get into (he's currently in a cell with around 180 other inmates) so please be very careful.[/QUOTE]Plenty like this O&W.
I read about both and the links to the Norwegian below. Plus an Aussie in Jail 5 years no trail etc to back up you comments.
[URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/justice-australian-cebu-jail-fie-years/[/URL]
[URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/norwegian-shabu-cebu-city-centre/[/URL]
[URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/scot-deported-bureau-immigration/[/URL]
And plenty more. Remember if you shout at a pinoy you can locked up as the law is very vague and they see a foreigner as an easy ATM in my view.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2243487]Plenty like this O&W.
I read about both and the links to the Norwegian below. Plus an Aussie in Jail 5 years no trail etc to back up you comments.
[URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/justice-australian-cebu-jail-fie-years/[/URL]
[URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/norwegian-shabu-cebu-city-centre/[/URL]
[URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/scot-deported-bureau-immigration/[/URL]
And plenty more. Remember if you shout at a pinoy you can locked up as the law is very vague and they see a foreigner as an easy ATM in my view.[/QUOTE]Many new laws are going into effect that will land more mongers in jail.
Bill 1326, or the "Safe Streets and Public Spaces Act of 2017", seeks to penalise "catcalling, wolf-whistling, cursing, leering, groping, persistent requests for name and contact details and the use of words tending to ridicule on the basis of actual or perceived sex, gender expression or sexual orientation and identity in public spaces".
The new laws would be enforced by "Anti-Sexual Harassment Enforcers". These officers would have the power of arrest, and could immediately impose fines or issue community service orders.
Mongers may want to reconsider trying to fuck salesgirls and girls hanging out in malls, as the "Anti-Sexual Harassment Enforcers" will be watching foreigners very closely.
Making a Filipino look foolish is also a crime, as they have the right to be as foolish as they want to be without foreigners pointing it out. LOL! Pointing out foolish mistakes by service staff could be skating on thin ice. The politicians are doing a great job of making the country a legal minefield for foreign visitors and expats.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2243590]Many new laws are going into effect that will land more mongers in jail.
Bill 1326, or the "Safe Streets and Public Spaces Act of 2017", seeks to penalise "catcalling, wolf-whistling, cursing, leering, groping, persistent requests for name and contact details and the use of words tending to ridicule on the basis of actual or perceived sex, gender expression or sexual orientation and identity in public spaces".
The new laws would be enforced by "Anti-Sexual Harassment Enforcers". These officers would have the power of arrest, and could immediately impose fines or issue community service orders.
Mongers may want to reconsider trying to fuck salesgirls and girls hanging out in malls, as the "Anti-Sexual Harassment Enforcers" will be watching foreigners very closely.
Making a Filipino look foolish is also a crime, as they have the right to be as foolish as they want to be without foreigners pointing it out. LOL! Pointing out foolish mistakes by service staff could be skating on thin ice. The politicians are doing a great job of making the country a legal minefield for foreign visitors and expats.[/QUOTE]Since when has being a dickhead not been a risky proposition anywhere in Asia? Or anywhere that you are no longer on home turf for that matter.
Got the following login error message a bit ago when trying to log into ISG. It would have been 3:20 pm in Phils. Not sure what UTC means; GMT?
Note that this error is normal and expected for a brief period during nightly backups, which usually run between 4:30 - 5:00 am UTC. Please try again in 5 to 10 minutes.
Database Error Database error.
The database has encountered a problem.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2243922]Since when has being a dickhead not been a risky proposition anywhere in Asia? Or anywhere that you are no longer on home turf for that matter.[/QUOTE]It an be risky even on home turf as well.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2244076]Got the following login error message a bit ago when trying to log into ISG. It would have been 3:20 pm in Phils. Not sure what UTC means; GMT?
Note that this error is normal and expected for a brief period during nightly backups, which usually run between 4:30 - 5:00 am UTC. Please try again in 5 to 10 minutes.
Database Error Database error.
The database has encountered a problem.[/QUOTE]I get that message almost every day for about 5 to 10 minutes because I usually read the ISG in the morning (local time), when it's afternoon in the Phils.
And I think you can lookup yourself what UTC is. It's not the same as GMT.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2244091]It an be risky even on home turf as well.[/QUOTE]True but it's amazing how people can change once they leave home or are surrounded by others who are apparently subservient.
Enjoy, G.
Recently a story was posted here from this site, about a foreigner who had been jailed for a long period of time. In giving the site the once over, it seems the site is fairly anti-foreigner. While reporting on the plight of many foreigners, many of the articles are negative towards foreigners. The articles are pro-Duterte and the headlines seem anti-white. Website seems to have a fixation on reporting what some foreigner has done wrong, and their incarceration or deportation. Pic attached from the site, seems to show Duterte glowering at Trump. Some examples, link on top, name of article underneath:
[URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/british-jailed-philippines-2009-home/?fbclid=IwAR0_r5smeJ9vQxmtbQ4h14pnfzMUlzRb3A_T6wjR8B0dkaDktdTlYC8dS1A[/URL]
British man jailed in the Philippines since 2009 'home in time for Christmas'.
[URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/duterte-foreign-tourists-better-behave/[/URL]
Duterte warns foreign tourists that they 'better behave' in the Philippines (article is a direct warning from the President for foreigners not to engage in political activity, references Australian nun Patricia Fox).
[URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/you-report-or-we-deport-bureau-of-immigration-lays-down-law-to-foreigners/[/URL]
You report, or we deport! Bureau of Immigration lays down law to foreigners (don't overstay your visa article, headline much harsher than needed).
[URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/norwegian-shabu-cebu-city-centre/[/URL]
Norwegian allegedly caught with illegal drugs in Cebu city centre.
[URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/14-year-old-twin-girls-americans/[/URL]
Americans arrested for allegedly sharing house with 14-year-old twin girls.
[URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/deported-philippine-new-record/[/URL]
Record number of foreigners deported from Philippines in 2017.
[URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/holding-hands-british-arrested-girl/[/URL]
British man arrested for holding hands with 14-year-old girl in Santander.
[URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/cebu-city-american-sex-children/[/URL]
American arrested in Cebu City for recording himself abusing children.
And so on. . .
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2248058]Recently a story was posted here from this site, about a foreigner who had been jailed for a long period of time. In giving the site the once over, it seems the site is fairly anti-foreigner. While reporting on the plight of many foreigners, many of the articles are negative towards foreigners. The articles are pro-Duterte and the headlines seem anti-white. Website seems to have a fixation on reporting what some foreigner has done wrong, and their incarceration or deportation. Pic attached from the site, seems to show Duterte glowering at Trump. Some examples, link on top, name of article underneath:.[/QUOTE]There is nothing new here. Filipinos have never liked foreigners, and their smiles are the same smiles crocodiles give dogs venturing close to the water. They like what they can get out of foreigners but do not have much use for foreigners themselves as persons.
Filipinos spend a lot of effort trying to become white. They apply toxic creams to their skin and inject harmful substances into their bodies in attempts to bleach their skins white. They are not anti-white but they are definitely anti-foreigner in a petty envious spiteful sort of way. Filipinos dream of putting the foreigner in the subservient position where they can extract his cash to fund an easy lazy luxurious lifestyle for themselves.
There is no grand aspiration to eject all whites and build an independently wealthy homeland. Almost every Filipino plan to acquire wealth involves ensnaring a foreigner or traveling to a foreign country to work.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2248058]Recently a story was posted here from this site, about a foreigner who had been jailed for a long period of time. In giving the site the once over, it seems the site is fairly anti-foreigner. While reporting on the plight of many foreigners, many of the articles are negative towards foreigners. The articles are pro-Duterte and the headlines seem anti-white. Website seems to have a fixation on reporting what some foreigner has done wrong, and their incarceration or deportation. And so on..[/QUOTE]I would agree about the articles but disagree on the anti westerner etc. It is what it is and I think is set up to warn us about the perils of being there. Some of the articles are some what sticking the nose up and doubting some facts given by the main stream media. I red this as it is refreshing to see another viewpoint as some of the main stream media is clearly bias pro / anti the administration and has very selective reporting (and at times very poor) reporting standards.
Qantas has now transferred operations to T3 in Manila and I just passed through the brand spanking new PAGSS lounge assigned to them for Qantas Club and Business Class passengers.
What an amazing difference to the primitive lounge facilities that were previously available at T1!
Not only is it new and glitzy but everything is "state of the art" , actually works and they have so many attendants that I was half-expecting someone to hold my dick when I took a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url].
Now if only there was a smoother way of getting into and away from the whole bloody terminal.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2248093]...Filipinos have never liked foreigners, and their smiles are the same smiles crocodiles give dogs venturing close to the water. They like what they can get out of foreigners but do not have much use for foreigners themselves as persons.
Filipinos spend a lot of effort trying to become white...
[/QUOTE]Well said!
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2250955]Qantas has now transferred operations to T3 in Manila and I just passed through the brand spanking new PAGSS lounge assigned to them for Qantas Club and Business Class passengers.
What an amazing difference to the primitive lounge facilities that were previously available at T1!
Not only is it new and glitzy but everything is "state of the art" , actually works and they have so many attendants that I was half-expecting someone to hold my dick.
Now if only there was a smoother way of getting into and away from the whole bloody terminal.[/QUOTE]Good news as I remember the 'lounge' for Emirates in T1 years ago where the mice would been in between the food at times LOL Added flavour to rather boring sandwiches LOL.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2248093]There is nothing new here. Filipinos have never liked foreigners, and their smiles are the same smiles crocodiles give dogs venturing close to the water. They like what they can get out of foreigners but do not have much use for foreigners themselves as persons.
[/QUOTE]Amazing that I've lived here for 17 years, have a Filipina wife, and dozens of Filipino friends, have worked with Filipinos during all of that time and never realized any of this. I guess the reason that I've never come to this realization is that you've made an absurd generalization that is essentially baseless.
GE.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2251201]Amazing that I've lived here for 17 years, have a Filipina wife, and dozens of Filipino friends, have worked with Filipinos during all of that time and never realized any of this. I guess the reason that I've never come to this realization is that you've made an absurd generalization that is essentially baseless.
GE.[/QUOTE]+1.
You get what you give. What goes around comes around.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2248093]There is nothing new here. Chochamongers have never liked filippinas, and their smiles are the same smiles crocodiles give dogs venturing close to the water. They like what they can get out of filippinas but do not have much use for filippinas themselves as persons.
Chochamongers spend a lot of effort trying to get laid. They apply ED meds to their foreskins and inject harmful substances into their bodies in attempts to restore libido. They are not anti-white, but definitely anti-foreigner in a petty, envious spiteful sort of way. Chochamongers dream of putting the filippina in the subservient position where they can extract sex to fund an easy lazy luxurious sexlife for themselves.[/QUOTE]There it is.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2251201]Amazing that I've lived here for 17 years, have a Filipina wife, and dozens of Filipino friends, have worked with Filipinos during all of that time and never realized any of this. I guess the reason that I've never come to this realization is that you've made an absurd generalization that is essentially baseless.
GE.[/QUOTE]GE,
It's all based upon the company you keep so you are both right.
It's always amazed me that people will complain about the alleged stupidity and untrustworthyness of a population, yet they keep coming back time after time, year after year.
If you don't like it or them it's pretty simple: Dont come.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2251232]GE,
It's all based upon the company you keep so you are both right.
It's always amazed me that people will complain about the alleged stupidity and untrustworthyness of a population, yet they keep coming back time after time, year after year.
If you don't like it or them it's pretty simple: Dont come.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]You are assuming CM has been anywhere. No field reports that he has been anywhere nor has he gotten any pussy.
In my experiences Filipinos have been pretty tolerant of foreigners to say the least. And especially for the least of the foreigners.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2251201]Amazing that I've lived here for 17 years, have a Filipina wife, and dozens of Filipino friends, have worked with Filipinos during all of that time and never realized any of this. I guess the reason that I've never come to this realization is that you've made an absurd generalization that is essentially baseless.
GE.[/QUOTE]Believe it or not but your view and CM's views of life here are both tainted by the same basis and from over extrapolation of the data.
There are some 100 plus million people on the islands; they like people everywhere will cover the full spectrum of views and attitudes throughout the population. To get a good statistically reliable estimation of the population you need to sample over 1,000 people chosen totally at random from the population. Even then you will only be within 3 to 4 percent of the actual population's attitudes on any given issue 95% of the time.
You both suffer from selection biases. In your case you are interacting mostly with people who are friendly to foreigners and therefore your data sample is overrepresented of people who are friendly to foreigners. In CM's case he interacts with people who are unfriendly to foreigners and his conclusions have a similar deficit but in the opposite direction.
That then leads to a confirmation bias. Let's say you both talk to the same individual, he states that he doesn't like foreigners who come here and take all the girls but like the economic activity that they bring. You would count him as a foreigner friendly person, just one with some limited reservations. CM would count him as a foreigner unfriendly person only interested in foreign money.
I'll also hazard a guess, not having ever met either of you that you are a friendly person. People will tend to naturally react to you in a friendly manner. I'the guess the opposite about CM. That would be a contamination of the results by interviewer interaction.
My personal view is that you cannot generalize about a population as diverse as the Philippines. You have everything from major metropolitan areas like Manila and Cebu to extremely rural and impoverished areas in the provinces. You will have a few people at the extremes, foreigner lovers and foreigner haters, you will have the vast majority of people in the middle with anything from no strong opinions either way to those who like and hate some of the issues with foreigners. (Remember at any given time there will be somewhere around a million of us here and we too will exhibit a wide range of behavior and attitudes that will be reflected back to us.).
[QUOTE=Goferring;2251232]GE,
It's all based upon the company you keep so you are both right.
It's always amazed me that people will complain about the alleged stupidity and untrustworthyness of a population, yet they keep coming back time after time, year after year.
If you don't like it or them it's pretty simple: Dont come.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Hmm. Well, m sorry I can not pick your advice. I can not allow you to have them alone.
While sitting out front of the ABC Hotel after dark last night enjoying the lovely ladies walking by a group of well dressed kids came by, two boys and one girl. I say well dressed bc what happened surprised me. The girl looked to be about 13 the youngest boy, about 7, the boy came up to me and said do you want my sister? At that point she walked over and told me the boy was her brother. I told her what her brother had said to me. I asked her how old she was and said 16. Ha ha. She said "do you know how to fuck, I do"? She says with pride. I guess 12 or 13 is doable in this place. I told her you are too young and they left after some hard sell talk. I know this happens but first time for me.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2248093]There is nothing new here. Filipinos have never liked foreigners, and their smiles are the same smiles crocodiles give dogs venturing close to the water. They like what they can get out of foreigners but do not have much use for foreigners themselves as persons.Filipinos spend a lot of effort trying to become white. They apply toxic creams to their skin and inject harmful substances into their bodies in attempts to bleach their skins white. They are not anti-white but they are definitely anti-foreigner in a petty envious spiteful sort of way. Filipinos dream of putting the foreigner in the subservient position where they can extract his cash to fund an easy lazy luxurious lifestyle for themselves.There is no grand aspiration to eject all whites and build an independently wealthy homeland. Almost every Filipino plan to acquire wealth involves ensnaring a foreigner or traveling to a foreign country to work.[/QUOTE]The skin whitening stuff really grates with me on so many levels. CM's other main point about Scam Central is logical and true, even if it is a generalisation. Low life hookers, like any other peddlers of raw meat, have their own lives and customers, as they call the Viagra Genetration, are, by an large, only transients there to pay the bill and, for the smarter ones, to leech on to. Most folk marry neighbours, not some hand me down Pinay hooker.
These Pinays are making wise choices, given their situation of living in a cleptocracy.
The real scum in tyher Philippines are the parasitic rich and those who support and empower them.
Guys, are any drinks bought in a girls home bar, after her bar fine is paid, normal drinks or are they still LDs?
Its the case in Sabang. Is this generally applicable everywhere? Manila, Cebu, AC, Subic?
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2252680]Guys, are any drinks bought in a girls home bar, after her bar fine is paid, normal drinks or are they still LDs?
Its the case in Sabang. Is this generally applicable everywhere? Manila, Cebu, AC, Subic?
Cheers.[/QUOTE]I've never had that problem. As soon as I've paid the bar fine, she's off to get changed and then we're out the door! On a serious note, I don't know.
In Cebu at one of the Mango Square bars, the mamasan said I couldn't take the girl out until I had bought four LDs in addition to the bar fine. I didn't quite get what was going on there.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2252643]While sitting out front of the ABC Hotel after dark last night enjoying the lovely ladies walking by a group of well dressed kids came by, two boys and one girl. I say well dressed bc what happened surprised me. The girl looked to be about 13 the youngest boy, about 7, the boy came up to me and said do you want my sister? At that point she walked over and told me the boy was her brother. I told her what her brother had said to me. I asked her how old she was and said 16. Ha ha. She said "do you know how to fuck, I do"? She says with pride. I guess 12 or 13 is doable in this place. I told her you are too young and they left after some hard sell talk. I know this happens but first time for me.[/QUOTE]A similar thing happened to me in AC. I was sitting at the front counter at Phillies, watching the world go by and a street urchin came past with his begging cup. He would have been about 7 years old. He then asked "Blow job sir?" I looked at the Brit next to me and we were shocked. I just told him to go away. Obviously, this sort of thing happens in AC and he would appear to have customers.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2252680]Guys, are any drinks bought in a girls home bar, after her bar fine is paid, normal drinks or are they still LDs?
Its the case in Sabang. Is this generally applicable everywhere? Manila, Cebu, AC, Subic?[/QUOTE]From my very limited experiences (in a few bars in Angeles and maybe in Sabang many years ago), it's up to you. It wouldn't make sense for the owner not to accept additional sales. I guess each bar would make its own policy.
Of course the girl is going to want a lady's drink for her commission. And if I insist on a normal drink, I feel like a cheap charlie.
What's the current case in Sabang? LD? A good way to get info is to talk to a waitress you tip, without anyone around, and ask away.
One of the cuties I barfined from La Bamba explained to me how the salary scales and incentives work at her bar.
Waitresses are paid 120 PHP per night and get to keep all tips. They also get commissions from LDs.
Dancers are paid 170 PHP minimum per night, but this can increase to 420 PHP per night depending on their sales for the previous week. They have a sliding scale. They work on the basis that 18 LDs are equal to one barfine. If a girl hits 75 LDs in a week, her salary the following week will be 420 PHP per night. A girl will generally need three bar fines a week (54 LDs) plus the reminder in drink sales to hit the maximum salary target. Girls generally get 50% of the barfine.
Now you know why they all order SM Apple Beer as that's a double LD, enabling them to hit the target sooner.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2252719]From my very limited experiences (in a few bars in Angeles and maybe in Sabang many years ago), it's up to you. It wouldn't make sense for the owner not to accept additional sales. I guess each bar would make its own policy.
Of course the girl is going to want a lady's drink for her commission. And if I insist on a normal drink, I feel like a cheap charlie.
What's the current case in Sabang? LD? A good way to get info is to talk to a waitress you tip, without anyone around, and ask away.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2252709]I've never had that problem. As soon as I've paid the bar fine, she's off to get changed and then we're out the door! On a serious note, I don't know.[/QUOTE]I should emphasise I'm not out to Cheap Charlie the girls. I'm happy to buy LDs during the interview process and until I make up my mind. No hard feelings if we don't leave together.
Generally I'm talking about when a few guys grab a few girls and hit the town. Often we return to the girl's bar after she has been bar fined for a few drinks. In this case I see no issue with buying normals as she is already guaranteed income from the interview LDs, a cut of the BF and any tip. It always makes more sense to me to give 100% of a tip rather than a portion of the LD.
I'm not big on hit and run STs but agree it would not apply in that case as no one would be hanging around in the bar (s).
Last time I was in Sabang, once you bar fined a girl all drinks were normals. Some would try their luck but it was never a problem when I pointed out that I had already paid the BF.
There's an interesting discussion on the Thailand board about feeling down during a mongering trip. This is very common and I think its due to a number of reasons:
1. Travelling on your own and no one to share your experiences with. Loneliness on the road is a constant reminder to get back home.
2. Having to keep the hobby a secret from the people back home and the constant alert state needed to maintain the double life.
3. Fear of missing out. Gee, Mongerer A is having more fun than me and so I need to bang just one more chick tonight.
4. Not wanting the fantasy to end and the reality that you have to get back to your day job.
5. The whole sex industry is so corrupted to the core that your normal values and morals get severely tested.
6. Performance anxiety and not knowing whether your ageing cock can keep performing.
7. Dying libido. Cock medicine can give you a boner, but does nothing to boost your desire.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2252905]There's an interesting discussion on the Thailand board about feeling down during a mongering trip. This is very common and I think its due to a number of reasons:
1. Travelling on your own and no one to share your experiences with. Loneliness on the road is a constant reminder to get back home.
2. Having to keep the hobby a secret from the people back home and the constant alert state needed to maintain the double life.
3. Fear of missing out. Gee, Mongerer A is having more fun than me and so I need to bang just one more chick tonight.
4. Not wanting the fantasy to end and the reality that you have to get back to your day job.
5. The whole sex industry is so corrupted to the core that your normal values and morals get severely tested.
6. Performance anxiety and not knowing whether your ageing cock can keep performing.
7. Dying libido. Cock medicine can give you a boner, but does nothing to boost your desire.[/QUOTE]I had to deal with all these aspects of mongering over the past 20+ years. Item #1 never bothered me, but many of my non-monger buddies love to hear my stories and look at my pics. It has become a routine, and a few ended making their first trip.
#2 is a big hassle for me, as I have another FB page for mongering. Very hard to maintain complete separation between the two, given that FB continually changes the meaning for various privacy settings. At times, it feels like they go out of their way to expose me.
#3, thru #7 were a concern for me early in my mongering life. Not anymore.
Folks,
I plan to be in AC early next year. On my return trip, I am scheduled to leave MNL airport at 9:40 am, for an international departure. I am wondering at what time I should leave my hotel in AC. I would appreciate any hints from experienced mongers.
My experience from past travels is not very good. This past January, It took me 4 hours get from AC to my hotel in Makati, in a private taxi, on a Saturday afternoon.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2253235]Folks,
I plan to be in AC early next year. On my return trip, I am scheduled to leave MNL airport at 9:40 am, for an international departure. I am wondering at what time I should leave my hotel in AC. I would appreciate any hints from experienced mongers.
My experience from past travels is not very good. This past January, It took me 4 hours get from AC to my hotel in Makati, in a private taxi, on a Saturday afternoon.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]How long is a piece of string?
Depends on the day and time of your flight IMHO. I have done it in just over 2 hours but that was a quiet Sunday. I have done it on a Friday afternoon and that was just impossibly slow. If you assume you need to be at NAIA 2 hrs before the flight so 745 am then you leave mid morning (early) latest.
I am one to be at the airport early regardless of how good or bad the facilities there are. So I would allow 3 hrs at that time of day and leave around 430 am (latest).
Others will have differing experiences for sure so take all into account before making up your mind as much depends on the day.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2252905]There's an interesting discussion on the Thailand board about feeling down during a mongering trip. This is very common and I think its due to a number of reasons:
[/QUOTE]Bear in mind, a lot of what is posted can be pure fiction. If it was so bad, you either wouldn't keep doing it, or you would have changed up your routine. No offense, but the reasons you gave run contrary to my logic. If it was common for posters to be "feeling down during a mongering trip", they'd probably quit mongering and never bother to discuss it here.
Personally, I got bummed out with regular relationships, so I quit dating, or even trying ordinary romances. I happen to prefer punting. If I get disenchanted with it, I will quit. If I ever meet someone worth dating, I'll ask her out. But at my age, it will be hard to find younger, attractive, physically fit woman who will submit to my wishes with no strings attached, low maintenance or ongoing obligations.
You can leave AC very early in the morning, may be around 3. 30 or 4.00 a. a to reach Manila airport (NAIA) at least three hours before your flight. But it is advisable that you leave AC one day before and stay in a hotel near Mall of Asia or Malate / Ermita so that you don't miss you flight. I have taken flights from Manila to Jakarta twice at around the same time 09 40 am And both times I stayed in hotels in Malate (Armada Hotel) / Ermita (Tropicana Suites).
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2253235] Folks, I plan to be in AC early next year. On my return trip, I am scheduled to leave MNL airport at 9:40 am, for an international departure. I am wondering at what time I should leave my hotel in AC. I would appreciate any hints from experienced mongers. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2253235]Folks,
I plan to be in AC early next year. On my return trip, I am scheduled to leave MNL airport at 9:40 am, for an international departure. I am wondering at what time I should leave my hotel in AC. I would appreciate any hints from experienced mongers.
My experience from past travels is not very good. This past January, It took me 4 hours get from AC to my hotel in Makati, in a private taxi, on a Saturday afternoon.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I personally don't like the stress of getting up early in the morning and driving for hours whether by car or bus to catch my flight. Several years ago was the last time I went by car on a Sunday afternoon to NAIA to catch a flight home. I had figured 3 hours driving time was plenty to allow for Sunday afternoon and I would be there 3 hours prior to flight time. It took over 5 hours driving and I barely made the cutoff time for baggage check in. 5 minutes later and I was watching people unload clothes into clear plastic airline bags to carry on the flight.
I travel a day or two before my flight to Manila and book a hotel in Pasay or Makati. I have a proven AC girl come with me or meet me in Manila for a pleasurable last night there. There are plenty of girls who are happy to travel to or meet me in Manila. I take care of the transportation and pay them the normal barfine amount. They usually go to NAIA with me and I put them on the Genesis bus back to AC from terminal 3.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2252905]There's an interesting discussion on the Thailand board about feeling down during a mongering trip. This is very common and I think its due to a number of reasons:
1. Travelling on your own and no one to share your experiences with. Loneliness on the road is a constant reminder to get back home.
2. Having to keep the hobby a secret from the people back home and the constant alert state needed to maintain the double life.
3. Fear of missing out. Gee, Mongerer A is having more fun than me and so I need to bang just one more chick tonight.
4. Not wanting the fantasy to end and the reality that you have to get back to your day job.
5. The whole sex industry is so corrupted to the core that your normal values and morals get severely tested.
6. Performance anxiety and not knowing whether your ageing cock can keep performing.
7. Dying libido. Cock medicine can give you a boner, but does nothing to boost your desire.[/QUOTE]Am over 55 and having similar thoughts. Sometimes I think it may be better staying home and mongering here than travelling but travelling gives you that freedom and home often has that sameness about it.
To counteract the feelings I do the following -.
1. Realize its fantasy not reality. I see it as my reward for working my ass off and putting up with crap day after day in my normal life.
2. Luckily I have someone to come back to who I know will always be there. Touch wood.
3. I have learnt that 3 wks is about my maximum before I need to go back home and tire of the fantasy world. Work out what is your limit.
4. As in point 1 I keep it real. If I have a bad experience so what. Tomorrow will be better. Don't care what others get or do. What I get or do is what concerns me. Based on reports here I seem to get better than most. Not sure why but I think its because I be myself, treat girls as people and have a realistic attitude. If I can't perform I just laugh. I know there will come a time when this will all end. Enjoy it while I can. I find bad experiences are more of a nuisance than stressful.
I always keep it firmly planted in my head that I have the $$ and they want it. I am not an arrogant bastard but won't let them dictate or let them feel like they have the power of the pussy. One of my favourite lines is " I don't HAVE to fuck you, there is a girl 10 minutes away who will want to and if I don't fuck tonight I know I will probably fuck tomorrow night" Remember you are over 50 - how many fucks have you had in your life? Exactly. Do you think if you miss out on 1 its going to make any difference?
5. Post trip depression doesn't hit so hard when you know 3/6 mnths you will be back again. Keep it in perspective.
6. Time with the girls is a business transaction. Its $ for sex. Keep it that way. Yes there can be feelings but chances of something real and long lasting is about 2%.
7. To me there is no difference between a girl cleaning my apartment, giving me a massage or having sex with me (I know others disagree) They are using their body to provide me with a service and they get a payment for it. - Women do it all over the world for $, prestige or security and its not called prostitution its called marriage.
So that's just my views. I may be way off. But then again the most important question I believe in life is. Are you happy?
If not, and I don't mean amazingly happy 24/7, change something.
NI.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2253251]Bear in mind, a lot of what is posted can be pure fiction. If it was so bad, you either wouldn't keep doing it, or you would have changed up your routine. No offense, but the reasons you gave run contrary to my logic. If it was common for posters to be "feeling down during a mongering trip", they'd probably quit mongering and never bother to discuss it here.
[/QUOTE]Going by your previous posts, you seem to be always critical of other people's views. Are you a psychiatrist to comment on mental health?
FFS, they are just points for discussion if people feel inclined to contribute.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2253341]Am over 55 and having similar thoughts. Sometimes I think it may be better staying home and mongering here than travelling but travelling gives you that freedom and home often has that sameness about it.
To counteract the feelings I do the following -.
1. Realize its fantasy not reality. I see it as my reward for working my ass off and putting up with crap day after day in my normal life.
2. Luckily I have someone to come back to who I know will always be there. Touch wood.
3. I have learnt that 3 wks is about my maximum before I need to go back home and tire of the fantasy world. Work out what is your limit.
4. As in point 1 I keep it real. If I have a bad experience so what. Tomorrow will be better. Don't care what others get or do. What I get or do is what concerns me. Based on reports here I seem to get better than most. Not sure why but I think its because I be myself, treat girls as people and have a realistic attitude. If I can't perform I just laugh. I know there will come a time when this will all end. Enjoy it while I can. I find bad experiences are more of a nuisance than stressful..[/QUOTE]An aged cock prone to going limp at the most inopportune times, saggy balls, and depression about not being able to get it up are all part of being an old man. It is all perfectly normal, as is libido falling off a cliff with increasing age. Old man mongers need a combination of antidepressants, testosterone replacement therapy, and Viagra to keep it up and going beyond 55 years of age.
Research shows that antidepressants restore lost libido in defeated male lobsters to the point where they would return to fight the dominant male again for the rights to fuck female lobsters. The same basic concepts apply to depressed aged mongers with cock problems. They should consult a geriatrician and look into gerontology services that support elder sexual changes.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2253235]Folks,
I plan to be in AC early next year. On my return trip, I am scheduled to leave MNL airport at 9:40 am, for an international departure. I am wondering at what time I should leave my hotel in AC. I would appreciate any hints from experienced mongers.
My experience from past travels is not very good. This past January, It took me 4 hours get from AC to my hotel in Makati, in a private taxi, on a Saturday afternoon.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]It depends on what day you are going. Generally speaking, travel time will take you about 1. 5 hours through Roxas Boulevard and Macapagal Ave and into the new express ramp that leads to the airport to avoid the traffic at EDSA. I usually stay in Ermita area the night before my flight so I won't rush and still enjoy a good morning shag.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2253341]Am over 55 and having similar thoughts. Sometimes I think it may be better staying home and mongering here than travelling but travelling gives you that freedom and home often has that sameness about it..[/QUOTE]4 weeks ago I promised myself I would do that. But the transactional nature of western style mongering on home soil is just so bad. Pay you money and you get one hour. If overseas in Asia, pay one fifth of the price and she stays all night. Pay less for short time.
Case in point, one hour in a AMP here costs AUD $60 + $100 for inclusive extras. That's about P6,500 for one hour (deduct time for washup, shower and dressing). Or go to AC for P1,500 enjoy any overnight honey.
BD.
[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2253836]4 weeks ago I promised myself I would do that. But the transactional nature of western style mongering on home soil is just so bad. Pay you money and you get one hour. If overseas in Asia, pay one fifth of the price and she stays all night. Pay less for short time.
Case in point, one hour in a AMP here costs AUD $60 + $100 for inclusive extras. That's about P6,500 for one hour (deduct time for washup, shower and dressing). Or go to AC for P1,500 enjoy any overnight honey.
BD.[/QUOTE]I receive some PM feedback on my claim of being better value in Philippines. Unfortunately the member doesn't receive messages from me for some reason. Having gone to the time to write a reply to that person, I'm just going ot post it here.
[QUOTE=xxxxx]"Or go to AC for P1,500 enjoy any overnight honey".
If you add cost of getting to Phils (AIRFARES , taxis , trains , buses , whatever) and cost of hotels , restaurants , and risk of STD's , corrupt police , inability of girls to communicate at a decent level , you are paying MORE , much more for Phil sex , with added health and personal safety risks , etc. Add pollution , being hassled in the streets , to the mix..[/QUOTE]Well I'm a top tier frequent flyer and the company pays my airfares. The flying is fun.
My company pays for airport transfers when I use them.
I get a daily travel allowance of AUD190 or P7,220.
Medicare covers blood tests and PBS subsidies medicines.
For me Philippines is cash flow positive.
If I was self-funding then I would take a return $462 Cebu pacific flight SYD-MNL.
Return Genesis bus (leaves from CP terminal) $20.
Stay in my AirBNB FR 7 nights $140.
Girl (s) per day $50/ day $350.
7 days of sex with overnights for under $1,000.
Sure beats the Australian equivalent of fucking Chinese farm girls on massage tables.
BD.
[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2254128]I receive some PM feedback on my claim of being better value in Philippines.
.....
For me Philippines is cash flow positive.
If I was self-funding then I would take a return $462 Cebu pacific flight SYD-MNL.
....
Sure beats the Australian equivalent of fucking Chinese farm girls on massage tables.
BD.[/QUOTE]$AUS 462 is about a quarter the cost of a return flight from North America. (My last one was $CDN 2200 or so).
Changes the economics slightly, especially for people on short trerm visits. I just stay long enough to amortize the flight cost over a couple hundred girls LOL.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2254216]$AUS 462 is about a quarter the cost of a return flight from North America. (My last one was $CDN 2200 or so).[/QUOTE]I was looking at prices in the low season for next year. SFO or LAX to Manila is running in the low $600's USD for round-trip.
[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2254128]
Well I'm a top tier frequent flyer and the company pays my airfares. The flying is fun.
My company pays for airport transfers when I use them.
I get a daily travel allowance of AUD190 or P7,220.
Medicare covers blood tests and PBS subsidies medicines.
For me Philippines is cash flow positive.[/QUOTE]Aaah, the trials of a Hardship Posting. 😁.
My introduction was a loading on top of a tax free salary to compensate me for the difficulty of living in Asia.
I actually had to go see an occupational psychologist to help me cope with the stress of the new environment. Company Policy, they said. 🤤.
I shit you not 😁.
Actually, if you want a laugh the books of the same name are a comical summary of living and working in the region:
[URL]https://stulloyd.com/portfolio/hardship-posting-book/[/URL]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2254258]I was looking at prices in the low season for next year. SFO or LAX to Manila is running in the low $600's USD for round-trip.[/QUOTE]SQ regularly runs special fares out of EWR, IAH, LAX, & SGO, and likely starting next years out of SEA, to various Asian destinations, including MNL. Usually requiring a stop in NRT, FRA, DME, or ICN. But, it's hard to beat service on SQ, even in Economy.
For some reason I cannot reply to this member who takes it upon themselves to message me. Once again here is my reply.
[QUOTE=Sxxxx]No Company pays you anything , and even if they did , you conveniently left that info out when you said in effect whoring in Phils is cheaper. As one poster said , in response to your weak effort , he needs to fuck 100 chicks to amortize the air fares etc. Most of us are two week tourists = airfare , hotels etc make whoring in Phils expensive. We are talking about two week tourists , not wannabe jet about Execs , lol.
Best not mention Australia , your putting it down , every time you mention it. Dummy to Dummies ... a match made in heaven.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what you are talking about? Let me know if you want assistance on how I arranged my life in order to live my dream. It may no be your dream. I have a lot of fun.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2254128]I receive some PM feedback on my claim of being better value in Philippines. Sure beats the Australian equivalent of fucking Chinese farm girls on massage tables.
BD.[/QUOTE]Current price in BrisVegas is 7500 peso for 1 HR of "dodgy" quick fuck on a massage table with variable looking ML.
No comparison as far as I am concerned.
NI.
[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2254292]For some reason I cannot reply to this member who takes it upon themselves to message me. Once again here is my reply.
Quote Originally Posted by Sxxxx
No Company pays you anything , and even if they did , you conveniently left that info out when you said in effect whoring in Phils is cheaper. As one poster said , in response to your weak effort , he needs to fuck 100 chicks to amortize the air fares etc. Most of us are two week tourists = airfare , hotels etc make whoring in Phils expensive. We are talking about two week tourists , not wannabe jet about Execs , lol.
Best not mention Australia , your putting it down , every time you mention it. Dummy to Dummies ... a match made in heaven.
I'm not sure what you are talking about? Let me know if you want assistance on how I arranged my life in order to live my dream. It may no be your dream. I have a lot of fun.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Mongering value is a very individual thing both in terms of activities preferences and cost.
While it may be expensive for Sx to get to PI, for others it is nearby and airfares are cheap. Don't forget that for others, the reverse journey get to his holiday spots can be equally expensive.
As an example, I was looking into going to some of the low price, developing country destinations as a change to PI. For me, air fares to Colombia or Madagascar are in the '000's of dollars and the return trip is about a week of airtime. It would take a lot of $10 girls to justify this compared to $500 flights of a couple of hours to PI or LOS.
While many visitors are tourists, there are also many posters who make the most of paid business trips while they are here. Some are even paid to live in Asia for years on a "Hardship Posting". 😁.
Departed Manila yesterday on an international flight, By the numbers at 10:30 am. In line at immigration A; 2000 persons standing, immigration be; 1000 persons standing. Number of times my suitcase and back pack went through an Xray scanner 3. Number of times my passport and boarding pass were looked at 4. Number of time I had to remove my shoes 2. It is not a good experience to say the least. Immigration / passport control was only manned at 25% of stations under an ironic advertisment for a new phone stating in two foot high letters a more intelligent solution. Ha ha. Wheel chair customers kept getting wheeled to the front of lines. I think my back will start to bother me next time, difficult to walk sir, please bring chair and pusher.
[QUOTE=Ebauche;2254268]SQ regularly runs special fares out of EWR, IAH, LAX, & SGO, and likely starting next years out of SEA, to various Asian destinations, including MNL. Usually requiring a stop in NRT, FRA, DME, or ICN. But, it's hard to beat service on SQ, even in Economy.[/QUOTE]I am a PPS Club member on SQ. Yet I would say Emirates and Qatar Airways have better service. Objectively speaking.
[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2255647]I am a PPS Club member on SQ. Yet I would say Emirates and Qatar Airways have better service. Objectively speaking.[/QUOTE]On my very first Philippines trip when leaving through Mactan I naively asked the Silkair check-in agent for her phone number. The same girl also did the aerobridge duty where she handed me her phone number. Fast forward a few months and she came good at the Waterfront Hotel. She had originally trained as a nurse, drank beers like a trooper and was a genuine girl. Took up a two year contract in Middle East and never seen again.
I have fond memories of the SQ group airline.
BD.
On my previous two trips to the Philippines I have been staying the standard tourist visa limit which I think is 29 days +/- On my next trip I want to stay longer, as long as 7 weeks, so I stopped into an Ayala mall store offering immigration work and asked them how I could stay for up to two months. The clerk there told me it was no problem and she would handle it for 5000 php. I said thanks for the info and left. I am thinking 5000 is huge and don't believe others are paying that for something I should be able to do myself. What advice do you guys have for me?
FT.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2255918]I am thinking 5000 is huge and don't believe others are paying that for something I should be able to do myself. What advice do you guys have for me?FT.[/QUOTE]5000 pesos is like 95 usd. I am thinking if that "is huge" for you, then the advice would be: get more money.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2254258]I was looking at prices in the low season for next year. SFO or LAX to Manila is running in the low $600's USD for round-trip.[/QUOTE]Would you kindly remind us what low-season is for travel from the US to the PI? Thanks.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2255918]On my previous two trips to the Philippines I have been staying the standard tourist visa limit which I think is 29 days +/- On my next trip I want to stay longer, as long as 7 weeks, so I stopped into an Ayala mall store offering immigration work and asked them how I could stay for up to two months. The clerk there told me it was no problem and she would handle it for 5000 php. I said thanks for the info and left. I am thinking 5000 is huge and don't believe others are paying that for something I should be able to do myself. What advice do you guys have for me?
FT.[/QUOTE]You can taxi to the Bureau of Immigration office in Intramuros city, and extend your 30-day stamp to 59 days. Take your passport. There is a form to fill out. Fees work like this:
If you can leave your passport for 3 days, you pay approximately p2100. Then you return in 3 days and pick up your passport which will have the extension in it. If you want then to process the thing within 1 hour, you pay p3100 approximately (there is a Starbucks across the street, get a coffee there and read the newspaper). Having the Ayala store charge p5000 is not bad if they can do the 1-hour thing and get your passport back to you the next day. Factor in also your taxi and coffee costs if you choose to do it yourself.
Gents did I miss anything?
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2255918]On my previous two trips to the Philippines I have been staying the standard tourist visa limit which I think is 29 days +/- On my next trip I want to stay longer, as long as 7 weeks, so I stopped into an Ayala mall store offering immigration work and asked them how I could stay for up to two months. The clerk there told me it was no problem and she would handle it for 5000 php. I said thanks for the info and left. I am thinking 5000 is huge and don't believe others are paying that for something I should be able to do myself. What advice do you guys have for me?
FT.[/QUOTE]DIY is 3 k for a 29 day extension to your initial 30 day visa on arrival. Available at any office but the smaller offices are much easier and less busy. Mine took 15 minutes at Battangas.
I forgot to extend one trip and the fine at NAIA was exactly the same. No receipt or stamp though so I may have just donated to the Immigration Agent's Christmas Fund. 😁.
I think I have shilled for google Fi here before. For americans it is a great international mobile voice and data service but I have used rather in extensively in many countries including columbia, the philippines, thailand, Cambodia, malaysia, Indonesia, Australia but you get the idea. You can save a few pesos getting a local sim card but for me the convenience of having my phone on an active wheels down in a new country is more than worth a couple of dollars period. The knock on google Fi used to be it didn't support a wide varriety of phones (I love my Pixel), but it now supports many Samsung and iPhone models. If interested see below, we both get a $20 services credit if you sing up. Feel free to mesage me with any questions.
[URL]https://g.co/fi/r/AV50AT[/URL]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2255935]
Gents did I miss anything?[/QUOTE]When I applied for a 29 day extension back in 2015 I had to fill in the names, adresses and phone numbers of 2 Filipino friends / acquaintances on the application form.
I don't know if they are still asking this but you can better be prepared.
You can make up two names and adresses if you don't know anyone (or if you don't want to ask the P4 P girls you know), because allegedly they are not checking anything. However I don't know if this is advisable.
[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2256024]I think I have shilled for google Fi here before. For americans it is a great international mobile voice and data service but I have used rather in extensively in many countries including columbia, the philippines, thailand, Cambodia, malaysia, Indonesia, Australia but you get the idea. You can save a few pesos getting a local sim card but for me the convenience of having my phone on an active wheels down in a new country is more than worth a couple of dollars period. The knock on google Fi used to be it didn't support a wide varriety of phones (I love my Pixel), but it now supports many Samsung and iPhone models. If interested see below, we both get a $20 services credit if you sing up. Feel free to mesage me with any questions.
[URL]https://g.co/fi/r/AV50AT[/URL][/QUOTE]My elcheapo Lenovo takes 2 SIM cards which is handy to have local phone and data whilst keeping my usual number on roaming.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2256052]When I applied for a 29 day extension back in 2015 I had to fill in the names, adresses and phone numbers of 2 Filipino friends / acquaintances on the application form.
I don't know if they are still asking this but you can better be prepared.
You can make up two names and adresses if you don't know anyone (or if you don't want to ask the P4 P girls you know), because allegedly they are not checking anything. However I don't know if this is advisable.[/QUOTE]That part is still on the form (area for Filipino friend), but I left it blank. Re-upped 2 months ago in the province and had to fill out the same form again. I fill in the pertinent info: Name, my local address (hotel or condo), reason (tourist), the date you want to depart (within 59 days of arrival). Interestingly in the province they required a thumbprint scan (not required the last time in Intramuros).
In Intramuros the procedure has been: 1) Fill out form and then get directed to a window. 2) At window hand over form and passport. Wait 3-ish minutes while the Immigration officer works it on his computer. He asks if you want 1-hour or 3-day pickup; One hour thanks! He keeps the passport and prints out 2 sheets of paper. One is a payment bill for the p3100, the other is your background check he has just run on you. It says things like: YOU ARE NOT ON ANY WATCHLIST. YOU ARE NOT ON ANY BLACKLIST. 3) he directs you to a payment window, so you head over to that window and hand them the bill and p3100. They give you a receipt and say come back to yet another window in 1 hour. 4) Go get coffee and wait one hour. 5) Come back and report to the designated window and pick up your passport with new visa stamp in it (right next to your inbound stamp).
On this trip, I banged a couple of hookers bareback. This was the first time ever I've slipped off the condom in over 30 years of mongering at various places around the world.
Upon arriving home, I rang the government run sexual health clinic downtown and was advised that I would only need a you rine test for chlamydia and gonorrhoea. Luckily my girlfriend has her period and I have a couple days to get checked before I need to bang her.
What post holiday tests do the other mongers get when they return home after banging pinay pussy bareback?
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2256256]What post holiday tests do the other mongers get when they return home after banging pinay pussy bareback?[/QUOTE]My "STD Packet" in Subic included those plus syphilis, HIV amd general UTIs.
Of course you need to be aware of incubation periods and lead times for different tests to be effective.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2256274]My "STD Packet" in Subic included those plus syphilis, HIV amd general UTIs.
Of course you need to be aware of incubation periods and lead times for different tests to be effective.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I went to a random doctor (not my usual GP) and he suggested I get the full packet, all paid by Medicare. I get the results tomorrow!
I feel a little disappointed when some local vendors try take advantage of my generosity. I was wandering around the few shops at T3 NAIA when a shoe shine boy approached me and said "May I polish your boots sir?" I looked at the time and there was still about 15 minutes before boarding, so I said, sure. I sat down on the elevated chair and he began polishing my boots. The conversation, initiated by him, then went in the direction of how life was so difficult in the Phillipines, how he has so few customers since everyone wears sneakers nowadays and how lucky I was to live in the west. He then mentioned that one gentleman tipped him a "pineapple" (an AUD $50 note, on account of it being gold in colour). A few minutes later, the service was completed. The list price was PHP 395 for a deluxe polish, so I took out a new 500 PHP note and told him to keep it. I figured 105 PHP was a reasonable tip for 10 minutes work.
As I was about to leave, he came up to me, and waiving an AUD $10 note, asked if I could exchange it to peso for him. A little puzzled, I pointed to the cambio about 20 metres away and told him to change it there. "No sir, they only offer 36 peso to the dollar. This is worth 40 peso to the dollar, so could you change it please?" WTF? I told him I couldn't change it for him and said to use the proper exchange service a few metres away. I would have been out of pocket only 40 PHP had I helped him, but what made him think that I should take the currency hit?
What would you have done?
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2256256]What post holiday tests do the other mongers get when they return home after banging pinay pussy bareback?[/QUOTE]My GP has a macro that he uses for STI Screen, from memory it includes the following.
Chlamydia.
Gonorrhea.
Hep be.
Syphilis.
HIV.
HSV I & II.
Cannot test for genital warts.
For Australian Medicare card holders all of these tests should be bulk-billed IE free. The fact that you did the tests does post to the history though. They can be removed by accessing the records online and deleting them.
The results do not post to MyHealth record.
Have had three rounds of tests this year without any questions or lectures form the GP.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2257765]
What would you have done?[/QUOTE]I would not have taken the shoe polish in the first place, because 395 peso is absurd. That's almost the minimum wage for a full day in Manila!
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2257796]I would not have taken the shoe polish in the first place, because 395 peso is absurd. That's almost the minimum wage for a full day in Manila![/QUOTE]Airports are going to hit you with higher costs for everything. In addition, shoe-shine guys work sporadically during the day; he's not collecting p395 every 10 minutes, he might be getting it twice a day.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2257765]I figured 105 PHP was a reasonable tip for 10 minutes work.[/QUOTE]Tipping is tricky in phils. What's appropriate? To tip, or not to tip? I find most gents tip here at the same approximate rate that he tips at home. If a guy says to me that he tips 20% at home (a cultural expectation maybe), then he's probably tipping 20% here (not a cultural expectation). There's maybe no wrong tip if it comes from the heart for service you feel is deserved. OTOH, any tip for just the sake of tipping might be a wrong tip. Over the years I've watched the number of service employees requesting tips (IMHO, and from my culture, a low-brow request) here increase. I went walking down Burgos one night recently and stopped into several bars and had one drink in each, just enjoying eye candy. On the way out the doors, the door guys at 3 bars asked me for a tip: "Tip for me sir?" "Lucky tip sir? For me?" Ick. Asking for a tip, ick. Mog's has a point: If you were to tip the shoe-shine guy p100 in Manila for a 10 minute job, would you tip the same guy at the airport in Butuan the same way? Its easy to say the same thing: P100 for 10 minutes work. However, many people in Butuan work a whole day for p200.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2257796]I would not have taken the shoe polish in the first place, because 395 peso is absurd. That's almost the minimum wage for a full day in Manila![/QUOTE]I'm fine with the tipping. It's just the attitude. You give them an inch and they take a mile.
What else can you get for 395 pesos?
Ear candling plus tip.
10 kg of laundry in AC.
1 lady drink at Burgos.
4 short rides on a trike in AC.
Half of an inedible cheese burger from LAC.
1 chicken biriyani meal from the Arab restaurant near LAC.
A bottle of Tanduay rhum.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2258029]I'm fine with the tipping. It's just the attitude. You give them an inch and they take a mile.
What else can you get for 395 pesos?
Ear candling plus tip.
10 kg of laundry in AC.
1 lady drink at Burgos.
4 short rides on a trike in AC.
Half of an inedible cheese burger from LAC.
1 chicken biriyani meal from the Arab restaurant near LAC.
A bottle of Tanduay rhum.[/QUOTE]Some people discover the wonders of tipping and others don't. I have.
Has anyone been to Air Force 1 lately? Or the big clubs like Pegasus and Classmate in QC? I understand you can easily drop 30 K in those places and not necessarily get a girl.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2258111]Has anyone been to Air Force 1 lately? Or the big clubs like Pegasus and Classmate in QC? I understand you can easily drop 30 K in those places and not necessarily get a girl.[/QUOTE]I have not. Be careful of the clubs where the girls swarm you for drinks. Not only are the drinks way over priced but outrageous. A friend of mine went to one by chance and after 10 minutes decided to get out. They hit him with a 20 k bill for all the drinks for 5 girls! When he protested a couple intimidating gangsters came out and asked him if he had a problem? They then took his cell phone away from him. Lucky for him he didn't have much cash on him but he had his credit card. For fear of bodily harm he put the 20 k on his card.
After he told me the story I told him to object to the charge on his credit card bill. Which he did and the CC company removed the charge.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2258116]
After he told me the story I told him to object to the charge on his credit card bill. Which he did and the CC company removed the charge.[/QUOTE]Just like that? Sounds like an easy way to have fun in these clubs. Pay by CC and then later let the CC company remove the charge.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2258111]Has anyone been to Air Force 1 lately? Or the big clubs like Pegasus and Classmate in QC? I understand you can easily drop 30 K in those places and not necessarily get a girl.[/QUOTE]Went their about a year back. Best is to skip the lounge and to go to the MP in the basement. That way you only pay for what you're looking for.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2258240]Just like that? Sounds like an easy way to have fun in these clubs. Pay by CC and then later let the CC company remove the charge.[/QUOTE]Yep, just like that in America. Most credit cards allow you to dispute charges within a certain amount of days upon receipt of the monthly statement. Upon filing a disputed charge the merchant has a certain amount of time to respond, if they don't respond then the charge is deleted. If they respond then the CC company will decided to drop it or not. Most charges due to fraud or extortion will be removed.
These are called charge backs to the merchant.
BTW, there are American CC that will give you a refund if the product is defective, stolen or lost within a certain time frame.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2258524]Yep, just like that in America. Most credit cards allow you to dispute charges within a certain amount of days upon receipt of the monthly statement. Upon filing a disputed charge the merchant has a certain amount of time to respond, if they don't respond then the charge is deleted. If they respond then the CC company will decided to drop it or not. Most charges due to fraud or extortion will be removed.
These are called charge backs to the merchant.
BTW, there are American CC that will give you a refund if the product is defective, stolen or lost within a certain time frame.[/QUOTE]Not just America. That is the way credit cards work all over. At least to the best of my knowledge.
These bars / clubs extort money all the time this way, from several unassuming customers. Most schmucks will not contest the charge, as they fear exposure or social shame. But when a case is reported to the Bank, they do exactly as DG mentions above. And then they evaluate the response from the merchant. Banks also have a way of telling which merchant claim is a reliable one and which isn't.
Gents,
I am planning my very first trip to The Philippines, and I have a few basic newbie questions regarding that all important resource. Money! I've RTFF. In fact, I've read many FFs for many months now and believe that I am well-prepared for the journey overall, but I have not found consistent and satisfactory information regarding the use of debit cards and ATM machines in The PI.
Under the circumstances, I will be restricted to using a debit card to pay for many goods and services (can't get any pesos prior to departure), as well as to withdraw cash from ATMs as needed for "other services" rendered. I will need to get some pesos upon arrival and know that there will be ATMs located at the airport. Also, I assume that ATMs will abound in the Makati area where I will spend a portion of my trip. But what about walking around in Angeles City? How available and accessible are ATMs in Angeles? I should confirm for Makati and Cebu too I guess.
Lastly, can anybody advise which bank's ATMs are best? For me, "best" means fairly accessible (you spot them around) with a high withdrawal limit. I read that some of the banks, especially the domestic ones, have withdrawal limits as low as 10,0000 pesos at a time. That simply will not do! I know the place is relative cheap, but not that cheap! On the other hand, I also read that banks like Citibank and HSBC have limits at 50,000 pesos per withdrawal (that's more like it). I will be using a card from an American bank that will refund any and all transaction fees, so I'm not worried about incurring those.
I am worried about accessibility (I need to be able to find one when I need one), withdrawal limits (high), and security (skim scams and such) though. So, if any of you seasoned Phils vets have any thoughts and / or suggestions around this that will help ensure a nice, worry-free trip, I would appreciate your feedback. Please feel free to contact me by PM too if you don't want to clog up the board with this inquiry, but all of us newbies reading could benefit from the most recent, updated information regarding this subject.
And that's it! You see you old, seasoned, grumpy geezers! I have done my research! I've RTFF! I've read many FFs! I know where to go and how to get there and how much it should cost, etc. But, I'm still not 100% straight on this one particular thing. Help a fellow monger out will you? And pinays here I cum!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2259069]Gents,
I am planning my very first trip to The Philippines, and I have a few basic newbie questions regarding that all important resource. Money! I've RTFF. In fact, I've read many FFs for many months now and believe that I am well-prepared for the journey overall, but I have not found consistent and satisfactory information regarding the use of debit cards and ATM machines in The PI.
Under the circumstances, I will be restricted to using a debit card to pay for many goods and services (can't get any pesos prior to departure), as well as to withdraw cash from ATMs as needed for "other services" rendered. I will need to get some pesos upon arrival and know that there will be ATMs located at the airport. Also, I assume that ATMs will abound in the Makati area where I will spend a portion of my trip. But what about walking around in Angeles City? How available and accessible are ATMs in Angeles? I should confirm for Makati and Cebu too I guess.
Lastly, can anybody advise which bank's ATMs are best? For me, "best" means fairly accessible (you spot them around) with a high withdrawal limit. I read that some of the banks, especially the domestic ones, have withdrawal limits as low as 10,0000 pesos at a time. That simply will not do! I know the place is relative cheap, but not that cheap! On the other hand, I also read that banks like Citibank and HSBC have limits at 50,000 pesos per withdrawal (that's more like it). I will be using a card from an American bank that will refund any and all transaction fees, so I'm not worried about incurring those.
I am worried about accessibility (I need to be able to find one when I need one), withdrawal limits (high), and security (skim scams and such) though. So, if any of you seasoned Phils vets have any thoughts and / or suggestions around this that will help ensure a nice, worry-free trip, I would appreciate your feedback. Please feel free to contact me by PM too if you don't want to clog up the board with this inquiry, but all of us newbies reading could benefit from the most recent, updated information regarding this subject.
And that's it! You see you old, seasoned, grumpy geezers! I have done my research! I've RTFF! I've read many FFs! I know where to go and how to get there and how much it should cost, etc. But, I'm still not 100% straight on this one particular thing. Help a fellow monger out will you? And pinays here I cum![/QUOTE]The local ATMs do have a 10,000 PHP limit. That's not a bad thing as it also protects your exposure. You can change money at the airport or withdraw cash at the ATMs there. There is no need to bring pesos with you.
I take big bundles of dollars (cash) with me and change as required at the various cambios. They are available everywhere. Stay in a hotel which has a safe, and when you are travelling between cities, use a money belt for your cash.
There are plenty of ATMs in Angeles City. While walking around Angeles, only carry a few thousand pesos in your pocket at any one time. No need to carry your wallet. There are heaps of street urchins and trike drivers who will try and pick your pockets.
All of your hotel expenses can be paid by CC or debit card. I wouldn't trust any of the smaller vendors with my CC. I always pay cash for meals, drinks, transport and girls. Cash is king in the Philippines.
I previously wrote that it was incredibly easy to sit in my hotel room and compile a big list of girls wanting to come and meet me to fuck. I was just using WeChat and Tinder in Makati and AC.
Due to time constraints and my love of going to bars to pick up, I didn't get to take up most of the offers presented on social media. I was astounded as to how easy it was. I suppose the lazy monger could just stay in his air-conditioned room and send up a never ending supply of talent. It's cheap too at around 1500 - 2000 for ST. I can see how it can become addictive and why CSP and Skogis went on to perfect it
I haven't deleted these contacts yet as I might want to fuck them next year. Quite a few of the girls I didn't meet are now sending me requests for money. When I refuse, I quickly find out that they don't love me any more. The conversations from three different girls are below.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2259243]I can see how it can become addictive and why CSP and Skogis went on to perfect it.[/QUOTE]In terms of online tools, my fake facebook account is my primary method of meeting new (and regular) talent. Never really used Tinder and on WeChat it's just to easy to get bait and switched. My FB account is about 4 years old now, so it's built enough content that it looks legit (important note: my friends list is hidden and i have literally had to block everyone on my real FB account, which requires upkeep when new friends are added).
With Facebook I get to see their photos and videos first, I get to chat to them, sound them out, get a feel for how frisky they're likely to get. Generally that takes time, unless I happen upon a pocket rocket (which is not unlikely in Manila). Rarely will they come straight to my condo, generally it would be lunch, dinner or drinks outside first. And that's for both our protection, but I'm not keen on having people over unless I know it's worth my time.
This MO works for me, because I live in Asia and get to Makati regularly. I don't imagine it would work so well for those jetting in from the States or Europe.
I'm also a big fan of the clubs in BGC (Xylo, Revel etc), where it's pretty easy to scoop up a fine young thing around 2 am when they've had their fill of agave. The plus side to the effort this takes is no bar fines, and if a girl wants money she's generally pretty forward about it once we begin the discuss the bumping of uglies.
With regards to girls constantly asking for help, I tell them the same thing everytime "you can ask me for help when we're in the same room", generally that pacifies them, incentivizes them and more importantly, shuts that shit down.
[QUOTE=CallSignPapa;2259261]In terms of online tools, my fake facebook account is my primary method of meeting new (and regular) talent. Never really used Tinder and on WeChat it's just to easy to get bait and switched. My FB account is about 4 years old now, so it's built enough content that it looks legit (important note: my friends list is hidden and i have literally had to block everyone on my real FB account, which requires upkeep when new friends are added).[/QUOTE]I'm very cautious, almost paranoid, of FBs wide ranging tentacles. I once arrived home to find auto generated FB Friend suggestions for all the girls I had contacted on FC PL etc on tour. I can only assume the I had appeared as suggestions for them too. Needless to say, I shit myself and went on a mad delete and blocking spree. Now I do not have FB on anything I might use for hobbying.
Have you ever had your fake account pollute your real account? Friend suggestions from one appear on the other? Contact become visible in inappropriate times etc?
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2259242]The local ATMs do have a 10,000 PHP limit. That's not a bad thing as it also protects your exposure. You can change money at the airport or withdraw cash at the ATMs there. There is no need to bring pesos with you.
I take big bundles of dollars (cash) with me and change as required at the various cambios. They are available everywhere. Stay in a hotel which has a safe, and when you are travelling between cities, use a money belt for your cash.
There are plenty of ATMs in Angeles City. While walking around Angeles, only carry a few thousand pesos in your pocket at any one time. No need to carry your wallet. There are heaps of street urchins and trike drivers who will try and pick your pockets.
All of your hotel expenses can be paid by CC or debit card. I wouldn't trust any of the smaller vendors with my CC. I always pay cash for meals, drinks, transport and girls. Cash is king in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]Remember that if 10 k is not enough, you can do multiple transactions up to you home banks daily limit or until you have enough.
ATMs are everywhere especially in decent size towns so I prefer this to having lots of cash on hand. The only risk is that they can go off line for a couple of days at a time in smaller towns.
I arrive with 2 or more cards with banks that know I'm travelling so will not block them due to apparent fraud and just withdraw as I need. Much less to worry about than travelling with wads of cash.
I've only ever had one problem when a typhoon took out all the ATMs around Sabang and my hotel didn't have CC facilities.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2259242]The local ATMs do have a 10,000 PHP limit. That's not a bad thing as it also protects your exposure. You can change money at the airport or withdraw cash at the ATMs there. There is no need to bring pesos with you. All of your hotel expenses can be paid by CC or debit card. I wouldn't trust any of the smaller vendors with my CC. I always pay cash for meals, drinks, transport and girls. Cash is king in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]Thanks once again guys. I agree with you Engine Driver that cash is king, and I will be using cash to pay for the same things that you do. If I feel like I need to withdraw more than 10,000 at a time, then as Goferring suggests, I can make multiple withdrawals until I have what I need. I've booked good hotels with safes, so I can lock everything up. OK, I'm set! And I'm stoked about experiencing another of the world's top pussy capitals!
[QUOTE=Goferring;2259279]...Have you ever had your fake account pollute your real account? Friend suggestions from one appear on the other? Contact become visible in inappropriate times etc?[/QUOTE]Yes, many times and that damn site does not seem to follow their own privacy rules. They seem to be changing them all the time, or they don't really follow their own rules. A constant struggle keeping my regular FB and mongering FB completely separate.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2259069]
Lastly, can anybody advise which bank's ATMs are best? For me, "best" means fairly accessible (you spot them around) with a high withdrawal limit. I read that some of the banks, especially the domestic ones, have withdrawal limits as low as 10,0000 pesos at a time. That simply will not do! I know the place is relative cheap, but not that cheap! On the other hand, I also read that banks like Citibank and HSBC have limits at 50,000 pesos per withdrawal (that's more like it). I will be using a card from an American bank that will refund any and all transaction fees, so I'm not worried about incurring those.[/QUOTE]I have never been able to withdraw more than 10,000 PhP at a time from any bank, including Citibank and HSBC. Don't know why.
There are many ATMs in Makati, Angeles, Cebu etc., especially in the malls, however it's possible that not all of them accept your debit card, even when it's stated on the ATM that it does (eg. with the Cirrus-Maestro sign). This is the Philippines, just move on to the next.
I'm also using Western Union to send money to myself, to collect bigger amounts and avoid the ATM fees. But this might be a more expensive option for you since your bank refunds the fees.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2259382]Yes, many times and that damn site does not seem to follow their own privacy rules. They seem to be changing them all the time, or they don't really follow their own rules. A constant struggle keeping my regular FB and mongering FB completely separate.[/QUOTE]It's stated in their policy that they don't allow multiple accounts. They only want 'real' people and I think it's easy to understand why. Personally I try to keep my mongering activities as far away as possible from FB.
Last week I drove down to Davao City. As I was strolling around the Rizal Street area, I had a brief chat with two streetwalkers. I'd estimate both were approximately 18-20 years old and were very cute and doable. I asked one for her short-time rate, which she quoted as 1,500 pesos. I wanted to visit a couple more bars so I declined and walked on. But if I were ready for action I would have offered her 1,000 pesos, which I believe to be a fair price.
At the next corner I encountered a short, dark, and rather homely 30 year old woman sitting on a plastic chair. During our conversation she admitted she was the "manager" of the ladies working on that street. As I wanted to learn more about the "business", I invited her to accompany me to a nearby outdoor bar to buy her a beer. She readily agreed and we spent about an hour together while I picked her brain for info.
During our time at the bar at least 10 girls checked in with her. All were under the age of 25 and most were pretty darned cute. I asked what the going rate was for short-time, and she replied it was normally 500 pesos for Pinoys but 1,500 for foreigners. I asked why our rate was so much higher she said it was because about half the foreigners pay that amount without question, while the other half bargains down to 1,000 pesos. I asked how many foreigners pay 500 and she said none ever try to negotiate it down to that level.
I then asked if I could have the most appealing girl for the Filipino price and she told me to wait while she found out. After a minute she returned and said the girl was ready, willing, and able. I asked whether the girl had the mandatory pink health-screen card, she she said she did. So I paid for our beers, handed the manager 500 pesos, and took my 19 year old cutie to a nearby 200 peso short-time hotel. Turned out to be one of the best price-value "dates" I've had in a long time.
This experience sure opened my eyes about the pricing game. I routinely pay 1,000 pesos for short time in my nearby cities of Butuan and Surigao here in Mindanao, and thought I was getting a pretty fair deal. Looks like maybe I've been spoiling the market here by overpaying a bit too much. Time for me to strike better deals.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2259279]
Have you ever had your fake account pollute your real account? Friend suggestions from one appear on the other? Contact become visible in inappropriate times etc?[/QUOTE]So my first step was to ensure that I created a new email address specifically for the account. That is the only "factual" information Facebook has about me. My location is set to Manila. I obviously haven't synced with any data on the various handsets I've owned over the time I've had the account, so I've had little bleed-over from my real account.
But it does happen, occasionally I see friends of a real friend suggested and they get blocked with extreme prejudice.
The main problem is that I have a friend list (not public) full of girls, about 360 currently (maybe 100 are regulars, the rest are prospects) and they 'Like' photos and videos I add or share. So the savvy girls will understand that my photos are liked by (for example) 40 people all of whom are girls in Manila. There's just no way around it, beyond not posting anything, which is more suspicious.
For me it's been a consistently great way of vetting and meeting new talent. Less surprises when panties hit the floor, and less drama. The irony is that I barely use my real account any more.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2259069]Gents,
In fact, I've read many FFs for many months now and believe that I am well-prepared for the journey overall, but I have not found consistent and satisfactory information regarding the use of debit cards and ATM machines in The PI.[/QUOTE]Depends which bank, which card and which country the bank card is from. I and others have an HSBC account and can withdraw more then PHP 10,000 a day easily. So I would ask your bank as if I take my HSBC ATM to a local bank ATM (eg BPI) I need to withdraw PHP30000 in lots of either 5 or 10 so then I pay fees many times over.
Check the above and call your bank. If you don't have HSBC maybe open one for the trip if you need lots of cash in a day. Some have done this also.
Anybody here use and can recommend Seeking Arrangements (SA) as a dating site yeilding good results? The website cost of $90 per month is too high for crap shoot results without recommendations from ISG. I am concened that the girls there will be looking for a second or third date before panties hit the floor, Also, there is of course a fee to the girls for their time as well, what is standard?. Lots of attractive babes there but I have not signed on with the site so do not know first hand because it is expensive signup. Another site, less well known, is Whats Your Price (WYP). I pulled one from WYP for a 500 php offer that she accepted. It was her first date from there and mine too so neither one of us knew what the deal was beyond the 500 so we just had our fun and I gave her another 1000 which she seemed just barely OK with and she left. Does anyone here ever use or know what the girls expectations are on the WYP site? I would use again if I knew more in case I pull a seasoned pro who will try to convince me of what the norm is and she is all BS.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2259517]Anybody here use and can recommend Seeking Arrangements (SA) as a dating site yeilding good results? The website cost of $90 per month is too high for crap shoot results without recommendations from ISG. I am concened that the girls there will be looking for a second or third date before panties hit the floor, Also, there is of course a fee to the girls for their time as well, what is standard?. Lots of attractive babes there but I have not signed on with the site so do not know first hand because it is expensive signup. Another site, less well known, is Whats Your Price (WYP). I pulled one from WYP for a 500 php offer that she accepted. It was her first date from there and mine too so neither one of us knew what the deal was beyond the 500 so we just had our fun and I gave her another 1000 which she seemed just barely OK with and she left. Does anyone here ever use or know what the girls expectations are on the WYP site? I would use again if I knew more in case I pull a seasoned pro who will try to convince me of what the norm is and she is all BS.[/QUOTE]I have been on SA for a couple of years, and have been a paying member for one year now. I mostly use it to meet girls in the vicinity of my home in the US. I have met several girls using it in Manila, and am still in touch with one of them. In general, the girls ask too much for what they offer. Remember, the site is mainly for rich businessmen who have more money than time, and the girls know that. After a meet-and-greet, I had two girls tell me that she'd go back to my room for 10-12 K. They spoke English well but weren't 'all that'. There were prettier, cheaper girls available in Burgos Street, which is where I went afterwards. IN GENERAL, the girls on SA speak better English and may be a bit more educated and worldly, but you will definitely pay for those attributes. Also, an arrangement can be anything you want it to be, but most of these girls (especially the prettier ones) are looking for monthly allowances, even rent-free condos. Some will be offended if you offered a price for a night (I am not a prostitute! LOL). In my opinion, sign up if you don't mind paying a lot more money for a marginally better class of girl. However, there are others here who use it that may offer different perspectives.
[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2259529]I have been on SA for a couple of years, and have been a paying member for one year now. ...... In my opinion, sign up if you don't mind paying a lot more money for a marginally better class of girl. However, there are others here who use it that may offer different perspectives.[/QUOTE]I had a 2 month live in arrangement with a 21 year old hottie. She would not take any money but I did replace her phone that got lost. We did some travel as well that I paid for but no allowance.
Her family (so she said) wanted her to go home. I paid her ticket back to her island but she had traveled to Manila on her own dime.
Other girls from there were better than average quality and more money, they mostly wanted long term arrangements vs one night's fun.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2259393]It's stated in their policy that they don't allow multiple accounts. They only want 'real' people and I think it's easy to understand why. Personally I try to keep my mongering activities as far away as possible from FB.[/QUOTE]I find it advisable not to give FB any phone numbers in your profile, despite their claims it improves your "security".
I have a couple of contacts to whom I am anonymous and use a separate phone number, but somehow they have my regular phone number (probably from using a dual SIM phone and calling them from the wrong number). FB found that number in the girls' contact lists and tried to match us up as friends.
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2259649]I find it advisable not to give FB any phone numbers in your profile, despite their claims it improves your "security".
I have a couple of contacts to whom I am anonymous and use a separate phone number, but somehow they have my regular phone number (probably from using a dual SIM phone and calling them from the wrong number). FB found that number in the girls' contact lists and tried to match us up as friends.[/QUOTE]Also, it might not be good to let your girl know your full name linked to your regular FB account, if your account is searchable.
One regular searched thru FB, found me (my profile has my picture), and asked to "friend" me. You can search via names. I don't recall giving that girl my last name. Maybe she saw it on a bill I had laying around.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2259517]Anybody here use and can recommend Seeking Arrangements (SA) as a dating site yeilding good results? [/QUOTE]There have been several reports about Seeking Arrangement. Just do an advanced search with the keywords 'seeking arrangement'.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2259630]I had a 2 month live in arrangement with a 21 year old hottie. She would not take any money but I did replace her phone that got lost. We did some travel as well that I paid for but no allowance.
Her family (so she said) wanted her to go home. I paid her ticket back to her island but she had traveled to Manila on her own dime.
Other girls from there were better than average quality and more money, they mostly wanted long term arrangements vs one night's fun.[/QUOTE]That sounds like an ideal arrangement! I think if I lived in Manila, I would have more options on SA. I'd love to have several ongoing arrangements at once, with the girls at my beck and call on "retainer". Who am I in the mood for tonight?
[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;2259400]During our time at the bar at least 10 girls checked in with her. All were under the age of 25 and most were pretty darned cute. I asked what the going rate was for short-time, and she replied it was normally 500 pesos for Pinoys but 1,500 for foreigners. I asked why our rate was so much higher she said it was because about half the foreigners pay that amount without question, while the other half bargains down to 1,000 pesos. I asked how many foreigners pay 500 and she said none ever try to negotiate it down to that level.[/QUOTE]Most folk think these LBFMs are different than any other commodity on offer and they forget they are tourists even when they are in tourist areas like Pampanga and Manila. The women are merely jacking up the prices to what they can get away with. I've paid 200 PHP for sex in Davao BTW.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2259874]Most folk think these LBFMs are different than any other commodity on offer and they forget they are tourists even when they are in tourist areas like Pampanga and Manila. The women are merely jacking up the prices to what they can get away with. I've paid 200 PHP for sex in Davao BTW.[/QUOTE]When men are on their death beds, they only worry about two things:
1. They didn't spend enough time with their children.
2. They didn't get enough pussy in their lifetime.
Don't worry about how much you paid or whether some guy spent 1,000,000 PHP on a 50-year MILF. Your dick only has a limited shelf life before it shrivels up and dies. Just use it while you can. You can always earn money, but you can't buy more time for your dick (okay Dr V can prolong it a bit, but your libido can't be fixed).
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2259983]When men are on their death beds, they only worry about two things:
1. They didn't spend enough time with their children.
2. They didn't get enough pussy in their lifetime.
Don't worry about how much you paid or whether some guy spent 1,000,000 PHP on a 50-year MILF. Your dick only has a limited shelf life before it shrivels up and dies. Just use it while you can. You can always earn money, but you can't buy more time for your dick (okay Dr V can prolong it a bit, but your libido can't be fixed).[/QUOTE]I am of the Frank Sinatra school. As he got older, his singing accommodated his age by not hitting high notes etc. Quality over quantity. You're saying we should drink more Red Bull, eat more Jollibees, bed more farmers' daughters. I say no. Go for quality, not quantity in food, drink and women. Many, if not most of the reports would turn me off. A meat market is fine but we don't want to see the flies laying their eggs on tomorrow's dinners.
As we get older, we have to grow out of stuff as it no longer turns us on. I'm not into banging LBFMs like I'm a tuk tuk driver or a marine who's been at sea for 6 months. Can't do it and not too interested in doing it either.
I was looking at flights back to the Philippines to factor a holiday in between two other holidays I am taking. But I've decided to pass and will chill out at home instead.
The Philippines is not off the menus totally. Maybe in 2020 or late 2019. It is a long way to go for bad food and bad drink. Pedrito needs attention of course but that is cost / benefit. I must work out most bang for my buck and as I've had the whole menu at this stage, who knows?
[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2259867] I'd love to have several ongoing arrangements at once, with the girls at my beck and call on "retainer". Who am I in the mood for tonight?[/QUOTE]To each his own SP, but I don't pay girls to visit, I pay them to leave after.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcBJ-vA5AoE[/URL]
Spain. And Barcelona is Spanish. Leads the way. There is nothing different here from supermarkets. LBFMs are on the way out and, with good programming, the sex dolls have more life to them. The sex dolls can even talk and hold as good a conversation as the farmers' daughters. The hookers in Spain are not happy campers. They are Luddites.
I imagine the Koreans would be big into all this.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2260007]I am of the Frank Sinatra school. As he got older, his singing accommodated his age by not hitting high notes etc. Quality over quantity. You're saying we should drink more Red Bull, eat more Jollibees, bed more farmers' daughters. I say no. Go for quality, not quantity in food, drink and women. Many, if not most of the reports would turn me off. A meat market is fine but we don't want to see the flies laying their eggs on tomorrow's dinners.
As we get older, we have to grow out of stuff as it no longer turns us on. I'm not into banging LBFMs like I'm a tuk tuk driver or a marine who's been at sea for 6 months. Can't do it and not too interested in doing it either.
I was looking at flights back to the Philippines to factor a holiday in between two other holidays I am taking. But I've decided to pass and will chill out at home instead.
The Philippines is not off the menus totally. Maybe in 2020 or late 2019. It is a long way to go for bad food and bad drink. Pedrito needs attention of course but that is cost / benefit. I must work out most bang for my buck and as I've had the whole menu at this stage, who knows?[/QUOTE]
OK so this maybe a stupid question But I am trying to learn about the rules there.
So Stocks where good to me this last year and I been doing some investing in other countries. I have already done some in Colombia, and Dominican Republic since I go there a lot. So now I am looking towards the Phils. I have already talked to a family member of my ex-wife there. And going to start a restaurant in a small city, and the price is not bad at all. But now I want to do more. I want to do some thing like a bar, or a club in a big spot. Does anybody have any info on this.
For the first time ever in my mongering life, I am thinking about taking a local girl with me to a beach side holiday resort in the Philippines. This girl works for a Makati based massage company and has her own profile on WeChat and TanTan as well. The procedure is that you make contact with the company or the girl directly and she comes to your hotel room for a massage at 500 PHP / hour. She is paid commission for the basic massage. Any money she makes on up-selling eg. hand job, blow job, B2 B or full service goes directly to her.
The question I have is what sort of EWR payment would I need to make to her boss so that she can skip work for a few days? Also, what would be an appropriate daily tip for her? I would only pop once a day. I would cover all travel expenses.
I haven't raised this with her yet as I don't want her to get her expectations up in the event I decide to travel on my own.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2259874]Most folk think these LBFMs are different than any other commodity on offer and they forget they are tourists even when they are in tourist areas like Pampanga and Manila. The women are merely jacking up the prices to what they can get away with. I've paid 200 PHP for sex in Davao BTW.[/QUOTE]Pampanga is a very large province and not all of it is a tourist area. By tourist area, I assume you mean Angeles City, and more specifically, the red light district around Walking Street, Fields Avenue and 21st Street.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2261172] Any money she makes on up-selling eg. hand job, blow job, B2 B or full service goes directly to her.[/QUOTE]I'm not so sure about that. A massage girl once told me she had to give half of her income acquired from up-selling to her 'manager'.
This might have been a sob story but it would't surprise me if it was true. So be prepared that you have to pay her 'manager' too (indirectly) when you take her on a holiday.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2261172]The question I have is what sort of EWR payment would I need to make to her boss so that she can skip work for a few days? Also, what would be an appropriate daily tip for her? I would only pop once a day. I would cover all travel expenses.
I haven't raised this with her yet as I don't want her to get her expectations up in the event I decide to travel on my own.[/QUOTE]Mine just told the bar she was going home so no EWR / Bar fine payable. Mamasan got a small kick back from the girl but I wasn't involved and didn't pay directly.
I just paid the equivalent of her basic wage prorated for two weeks. Hence she got 1500 tip every day* she was with me but no BF, drink, dancing etc money. She was happy with this.
* at the time Sabang girls were 1500+1500 and they got a cut of drinks and dancing money.
The whole story, good and bad:
[QUOTE=Goferring;1969892]Hi guys,
Just a post on a trip I am having to highlight some of the risks and rewards of taking a multi day / week trip with a BG.
During my last trip to Sabang...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Goferring;1972066]OK, so the trip above is now finished. Her attitude improved over the second week but still wasn't all that I had hoped for.....[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2261243]I'm not so sure about that. A massage girl once told me she had to give half of her income acquired from up-selling to her 'manager'.
This might have been a sob story but it would't surprise me if it was true. So be prepared that you have to pay her 'manager' too (indirectly) when you take her on a holiday.[/QUOTE]Years ago I met a uniformed street massage girl. I would have her give me a massage and she would only do a HJ. She claimed to be a cherry girl and the manager set the price around 20 k. She claimed the manager would get half of the money. She also said the woman manager would check her Pussy after each night. About 2 months later she was still a cherry and by now I was doing her orally. One night she just wanted to get it over with and said to just give her 5 k. After going down on her I couldn't resist. So I slowly tried to enter her but she was so tight I had lube up with lotion. After about 10 minutes of slowly stroking her she threw me off of her claiming the pain was so great. I didn't believe her at first but she coiled up fetus like. Then laid there for the next 6 hours in pain. Meanwhile the manager kept calling her every hour. I could hear her arguing with the manager in Tagalog and some broken English like I don't care, you can have all the money, I just want to rest and sleep.
Turns out she didn't get any of the 5 k, it all went to the manager for the time plus half of what the manager should have gotten. Apparently out of the 400 peso massage the girl got 100 plus half of the tip. If you look the girls uniform only has a few pockets.
And they come to work empty pocket plus their cell phone. This girl was part of a 8-10 girl staff. They all roomed together and and couldn't go anywhere by themselves. Also most of the girls were from the same city in Pampanga. I do believe these girls were closely watched and there will be some kind of rate to be paid if you take them on a trip.
[QUOTE=Cbear13;2261076]I have already talked to a family member of my ex-wife there. And going to start a restaurant in a small city, and the price is not bad at all. But now I want to do more. I want to do some thing like a bar, or a club in a big spot. Does anybody have any info on this.[/QUOTE]There has been chatter on this before but some time back.
Apart from the obvious 'do you trust any family member of your ex wife?' then there is adage that if you want to make a million in the Philippines then bring 10 million.
Do you think bars make money? Some for sale if that your preference but I know ex bar owners who lost a packet for various reasons. Also I no some who pinoy partners were nice at first as the foreigner paid the inventory then had him arrested on a charge and then he left the country with the debts and his pinoy partners kept the assets.
Strange old world sometimes and each to his own but I would search the board for some old information on this, speak with some expat bar owners and get a feel. If you want to put your money and earn interest I can send you my bank account details LOL Safer there by far LOL.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2261326]After about 10 minutes of slowly stroking her she threw me off of her claiming the pain was so great. I didn't believe her at first but she coiled up fetus like. Then laid there for the next 6 hours in pain.[/QUOTE]That is my greatest fear about taking a cherry girl. It sounds like only the manager enjoyed that experience.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2261172]This girl works for a Makati based massage company and has her own profile on WeChat and TanTan as well..[/QUOTE]Can you share some more info about TanTAn. Appstore reviews are 3/5 but how about the pussy.
The app is described as.
Frequent / Intense Sexual Content or Nudity.
Infrequent / Mild Profanity or Crude Humor.
Unrestricted Web Access.
Infrequent / Mild Mature / Suggestive Themes.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2261351]...
Do you think bars make money? Some for sale if that your preference but I know ex bar owners who lost a packet for various reasons. ......[/QUOTE]Bars and restaurants are the worst investment possible, world wide not only here.
Lots of competition. Easy to get started in a low end restaurant.
Rely on low paid employees, lots of no shows of staff and one bad day for a staff member can [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off lots of customers.
You are at the mercy of suppliers.
Customers have lots of options, go to your place, go elsewhere, eat and drink at home etc.
Big risk on what and how much supplies to order, will you have enough people in to eat it or will they stay home because of weather? Running out just about as bad, people will go next door and may like it better there.
[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2261483]Can you share some more info about TanTAn. Appstore reviews are 3/5 but how about the pussy.
The app is described as.
Frequent / Intense Sexual Content or Nudity.
Infrequent / Mild Profanity or Crude Humor.
Unrestricted Web Access.
Infrequent / Mild Mature / Suggestive Themes.[/QUOTE]I've only used it in Sydney. I'm rather curious as well. I guess it's tinder without the regulation!!
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2261478]Tantan is a Chinese version of Tinder, a straight out copy. I went on this and within a couple of days had amassed a reasonable number of matches and started chatting to some very hot looking Chinese girls. They didn't seem like outright hookers as the conversations never went that way. Just wondering why such pretty young things would be interested in me? Is this a scam?
A couple of them very quickly diverted me to WeChat to continue chatting. One insisted that we continue on smmi (or something like that), but this was a pay-to-chat service, so I declined. She then said she can't speak to me anymore. The red flag was up at this stage.
Does anyone have any more info as I'm intrigued.[/QUOTE]
Lots of girls I am in contact with are dropping hints that Christmas is fast approaching. A few have been more direct and have said the bills are mounting up, need to travel to the province, mom's had an appendix operation etc and could I help? I've just ignored them and changed to the topic to the weather or have just deleted the rather pesky ones.
There's one sweetie who has a heart of gold and hasn't mentioned a thing about Christmas or money. She's going to be beneficiary of Engine Driver's benevolent fund. So I asked this girl for her bank account details so I can transfer some money through Western Union. I was a little shocked when she said she doesn't have a bank account. Then it dawned on me that some people are so poor, they have no need for a bank account, living a hand to mouth existence. Like DG said, some girls don't even own a kettle or a rice cooker.
Not a problem. I will send the money to WU in Makati and she can just pick up the cash after showing her ID and the password for the transaction.
Charity is good.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2261534]Lots of girls I am in contact with are dropping hints that Christmas is fast approaching. A few have been more direct and have said the bills are mounting up, need to travel to the province, mom's had an appendix operation etc and could I help? I've just ignored them and changed to the topic to the weather or have just deleted the rather pesky ones.
There's one sweetie who has a heart of gold and hasn't mentioned a thing about Christmas or money. She's going to be beneficiary of Engine Driver's benevolent fund. So I asked this girl for her bank account details so I can transfer some money through Western Union. I was a little shocked when she said she doesn't have a bank account. Then it dawned on me that some people are so poor, they have no need for a bank account, living a hand to mouth existence. Like DG said, some girls don't even own a kettle or a rice cooker.
Not a problem. I will send the money to WU in Makati and she can just pick up the cash after showing her ID and the password for the transaction.
Charity is good.[/QUOTE]Nice one ED.
Sometimes I would buy the kettle and rice cooker instead of cash as this is more beneficial. In the past I would take the to the supermarket and fill a basket or two. They choose and invariably is rice and hot dogs, tuna etc. That gesture is small to us but large to them plus of you see her again you will get a good GFE etc and I she has friends and shares you are in clover.
As for 'expenses' add the list fees for exams, fees for next semester or they owe credit and kid / sister etc can't attend until is paid before Christmas. One old friend got a note from one of his ladies, typed but unsigned supposedly from the landlady asking for pesos (not an insubstantial amount) for building repairs on the place she rents as an advance of the girl's rent. Thus her landlady wanted him to pay for the house repairs and assumed this could be advanced rental for the girl. He can't see how he benefits from this given he won't be back the country for a long time. Logic never strong for some LOL.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2261534]Lots of girls I am in contact with are dropping hints that Christmas is fast approaching. A few have been more direct and have said the bills are mounting up, need to travel to the province, mom's had an appendix operation etc and could I help? I've just ignored them and changed to the topic to the weather or have just deleted the rather pesky ones.
There's one sweetie who has a heart of gold and hasn't mentioned a thing about Christmas or money. She's going to be beneficiary of Engine Driver's benevolent fund. So I asked this girl for her bank account details so I can transfer some money through Western Union. I was a little shocked when she said she doesn't have a bank account. Then it dawned on me that some people are so poor, they have no need for a bank account, living a hand to mouth existence. Like DG said, some girls don't even own a kettle or a rice cooker.
Not a problem. I will send the money to WU in Makati and she can just pick up the cash after showing her ID and the password for the transaction.
Charity is good.[/QUOTE]You do realize that your sending her money for not asking ironically creates the expectation and the likelihood that she will ask for money in the future. Hence, your generous gift of free cash will corrupt her heart of gold and she will no longer be a sweetie. Most likely, she will turn into one of gold digging mendicants that you dislike. Good intentions sometimes have distasteful consequences.
I am not a big Ayn Rand fan but charity is not always good. In the Philippines, charity is very harmful when practiced without very specific conditions that increases the recipients' self-reliance. Too often giving Filipinas cash just makes beggars of them, as this creates the expectation that foreigners should give handouts from their bottomless pockets. That Western Union remittance may very well lead to the girl paying for a few liters of Red Horse beer, a cartoon of cigarettes, and a room at Sogo where her drunken trike driver boyfriend will fill her with cream pies. She will then begin the New Year as an expectant mother, and ask you for cash to pay for the birth, pampers, and milk, as the trike driver boyfriend has ran off.
Sorry if you find this upsetting but I have seen this kind of thing before, and contributed to it in the past before seeing the unintended train wrecks that resulted. I created my share of monsters. Paying directly for medical attention or job training is good charity. Giving a Pinay cash is bad charity.
Pinays blow cash the same day it hits their hands. This is the real reason they do not have bank accounts. Even if you send her 50,000 pesos, she will blow it within 24 to 48 hours, and she may not buy anything that benefits her over the long term.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2261534]There's one sweetie who has a heart of gold and hasn't mentioned a thing about Christmas or money. She's going to be beneficiary of Engine Driver's benevolent fund. So I asked this girl for her bank account details so I can transfer some money through Western Union. I was a little shocked when she said she doesn't have a bank account. Then it dawned on me that some people are so poor, they have no need for a bank account, living a hand to mouth existence. Like DG said, some girls don't even own a kettle or a rice cooker..[/QUOTE]The country is stacked against them having bank accounts. Union Bank needs a average monthly minimum of P50 k which I think they increased to P100 K to avoid fees. Metrobank needs a minimum of P2 k balance otherwise P300 monthly fee.
If they do have the cash then the identity requirements kick in. That's also painful.
BD.
[QUOTE=Cbear13;2261076]OK so this maybe a stupid question But I am trying to learn about the rules there.
So Stocks where good to me this last year and I been doing some investing in other countries. I have already done some in Colombia, and Dominican Republic since I go there a lot. So now I am looking towards the Phils. I have already talked to a family member of my ex-wife there. And going to start a restaurant in a small city, and the price is not bad at all. But now I want to do more. I want to do some thing like a bar, or a club in a big spot. Does anybody have any info on this.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2261351]
Do you think bars make money? Some for sale if that your preference but I know ex bar owners who lost a packet for various reasons. Also I no some who pinoy partners were nice at first as the foreigner paid the inventory then had him arrested on a charge and then he left the country with the debts and his pinoy partners kept the assets.[/QUOTE]Foreigners that have done well opening bars and restaurants have two things in common: they have access to enough cash to do it properly and they have the skills and or partners to know how to set up and run the business.
Conversely failures are poorly funded and started by people who think it would he a fun thing to do.
No offense Cbear but asking for advice on how to open a restaurant or bar, in a foreign country, on a sex based bulletin board is a sign of a lack of experience in the hospitality industry, overseas HR, tax, immigration and business requirements.
Putting up your own cash while you make mistakes learning these skills is not a good plan.
Along with others' stories of rip offs, corruption and unfair competition I would encourage you not to underestimate how much hard work it is to establish these businesses. 14 hrs would be a good day.
If you have done well in stocks, surely a plan would be continue doing what has worked and use the passive income in US dollars to fund pesos for a life of pleasure??
If you still want to start your own operation, I'd suggest you go manage someone else's first. It will give you a real look at the good and bad of the job and some experience that you may put to use later. If you then decide it's not for you then you haven't lost much.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2261534]
There's one sweetie who has a heart of gold and hasn't mentioned a thing about Christmas or money. She's going to be beneficiary of Engine Driver's benevolent fund. So I asked this girl for her bank account details so I can transfer some money through Western Union. I was a little shocked when she said she doesn't have a bank account. Then it dawned on me that some people are so poor, they have no need for a bank account, living a hand to mouth existence. Like DG said, some girls don't even own a kettle or a rice cooker.
Not a problem. I will send the money to WU in Makati and she can just pick up the cash after showing her ID and the password for the transaction.
[/QUOTE]Quick update on this. A forum member advised me that most of the Pinays in the esteemed circles we move in neither have a bank account nor valid ID. This was the case with this chick. Therefore I sent the money to her cousin for collection. She has a valid ID and was able to collect from Western Union. Another problem solved.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2261243]I'm not so sure about that. A massage girl once told me she had to give half of her income acquired from up-selling to her 'manager'.
This might have been a sob story but it would't surprise me if it was true. So be prepared that you have to pay her 'manager' too (indirectly) when you take her on a holiday.[/QUOTE]It depends on who you speak to. One girl told me that she gets a 25% cut of the base massage fee and the extras are pocketed by her. Another girl said that she needs to share the extras with her boss. When I asked her how would her boss know what she was doing in the hotel room with the client, she just gave me a wry smile and winked at me. Yet another time, when I fucked a massage girl and gave her a 1,500 PHP tip, she said for me to not tell her company about our extra activity.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2261663]Quick update on this. A forum member advised me that most of the Pinays in the esteemed circles we move in neither have a bank account nor valid ID. This was the case with this chick. Therefore I sent the money to her cousin for collection. She has a valid ID and was able to collect from Western Union. Another problem solved.[/QUOTE]ED, good job. Keep in mind that WU has the strictest ID requirements. Other transfer agents might not be as tough.
On another ID note. Recently I was asked buy an airplane ticket online for a girl and she would pay me back, which she did. The problem after purchase was she didn't have an ID. Short story was she went and got a Barangay picture ID the same day for I think 50 pesos. They had no idea who she was. LOL. It was good enough to get on the plane. Not good enough to pick up money.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2261534]There's one sweetie who has a heart of gold and hasn't mentioned a thing about Christmas or money. She's going to be beneficiary of Engine Driver's benevolent fund. So I asked this girl for her bank account details so I can transfer some money through Western Union. I was a little shocked when she said she doesn't have a bank account. Then it dawned on me that some people are so poor, they have no need for a bank account, living a hand to mouth existence. Like DG said, some girls don't even own a kettle or a rice cooker.
Not a problem. I will send the money to WU in Makati and she can just pick up the cash after showing her ID and the password for the transaction.
Charity is good.[/QUOTE]In my experience "hand to mouth" is also a way of thinking. I have often wondered if, for many of the poor, it's actually learned in the provinces. We eat when the bananas, or mangoes, coconuts, or rice are ready, or when the fish are schooling nearby. When none of these are available, we either borrow from neighbors or go scrounging for the marginally edible stuff. I may be exaggerating a little, but in general I've seen fewer fat Filipinos in rural areas. When life is tied to subsistence farming then the notion of money salted away in a bank account doesn't make much sense. I suspect that aid from the USA During territorial days and from philanthropic and humanitarian sources more recently, especially after disasters, has contributed to a sense of dependency that undermines self-sufficiency in some Filipinos.
Moneygram usually has a better exchange rate and sightly lower fees than WU, but some rural communities may have only WU. I believe ID requirements are about the same for both Moneygram and WU.
They can sometimes be a pain in the ass. I once sent money to a close friend who has two first names. But the agent at my end typed in the second of the names as a middle name. When the agent in the Philippines pulled it up on a screen it showed only the first of the two names, and the Moneygram agent would not turn over the money, because the recipient's ID showed the two first names, instead of the one she saw on her screen. I texted a photo of my receipt, which showed both names, and that seemed to convince the agent. But this all took about 24 hours.
Sometimes people who are otherwise not very influential like to exercise the little power they derive from their access to powerful people, information, or decision points in systems. This may be somewhat exaggerated in the Philippines since power rests disproportionately in the hands of a few people, and average Filipinos are therefore relatively powerless. Organizations and systems in the Philippines are often quite rule-bound, unless you have personal network connections or are willing to bribe or otherwise reward and cajole people.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2261534]Lots of girls I am in contact with are dropping hints that Christmas is fast approaching. A few have been more direct and have said the bills are mounting up, need to travel to the province, mom's had an appendix operation etc and could I help? I've just ignored them and changed to the topic to the weather or have just deleted the rather pesky ones.
There's one sweetie who has a heart of gold and hasn't mentioned a thing about Christmas or money. She's going to be beneficiary of Engine Driver's benevolent fund. So I asked this girl for her bank account details so I can transfer some money through Western Union. I was a little shocked when she said she doesn't have a bank account. Then it dawned on me that some people are so poor, they have no need for a bank account, living a hand to mouth existence. Like DG said, some girls don't even own a kettle or a rice cooker.
Not a problem. I will send the money to WU in Makati and she can just pick up the cash after showing her ID and the password for the transaction.
Charity is good.[/QUOTE]Charity is good?
The problem is although you showed good intentions in helping more often in Philippines it is connotationed as weak, do not care about money, will yield to any and all requests, pussy worshipping fool etc.
Many a time it is not girls fault. It is their family and friends who will tell her to try to get money. Case in point is a very pretty girl I dated before. She was nice, easy going, did not care how much I gave, did not care where I took her. I made the mistake of sending money for her birthday enough to enjoy with her family. Soon after that demands came for this and that and I told her I am not sending money to support her family. Then the demands stopped. She became back to no demands. Of course I send some money for her when I felt like it. The moral is you need to control. It does not matter if she leaves you. There are plenty more.
Those who are trolling for foreigners are essentially looking for money. At first they want to be married and whisked away for a comfortable life. Pretty soon they realize it is just sex mostly. Then they want money for support.
While ago I met a 18 year old girl from Cebu. She had no intention of getting or trying for a job. I understand jobs are hard to come by in Philippines but trying is a must. You see lots of girls working in super markets who seem to be concentrating in working hard and earning money. I told her she needs to look for a job for her future. At my insistence she got a job in a Korean restaurant. Although pay is low she gets experience and self motivation. After few years she got a job in Middle East because of her experience. Every girl I am with same story. I took one girl from the provinces to Manila. There I told her to go in and ask for a job in many of the recruiting businesses by herself. She was interviewed right away by an Arab and offered a job in Saudi Arabia. She was given two options. One is to pay 20000 pesos to arrange passport and other expenses which I believe is the agency commission. Other is she needs pay money every month till it is paid up after she goes to Saudi. I was willing to pay the money. She goes home and tells me she does not want the job. Right now she had a baby with somebody and struggling to get by. I refused request for money. This is the mindset.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2261752]<SNIP> I suspect that aid from the USA During territorial days and from philanthropic and humanitarian sources more recently, especially after disasters, has contributed to a sense of dependency that undermines self-sufficiency in some Filipinos.
<SNIP> [/QUOTE]You can go back further than that SS. Read Rizal's book "Noli me Tangere" to see how the residents depended on handouts from the landowners and the church. It was ingrained then and has persisted for well over the recent 100 plus years.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2261663]Quick update on this. A forum member advised me that most of the Pinays in the esteemed circles we move in neither have a bank account nor valid ID. This was the case with this chick. Therefore I sent the money to her cousin for collection. She has a valid ID and was able to collect from Western Union. Another problem solved.[/QUOTE]I agree. I find direct provision of micro credit to unbanked single moms more effective. Financing is normally capped at 1500 or 3000 p to ensure equitable distribution.
Long Live Capitalism. 👍.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2261906]You can go back further than that SS. Read Rizal's book "Noli me Tangere" to see how the residents depended on handouts from the landowners and the church. It was ingrained then and has persisted for well over the recent 100 plus years.[/QUOTE]I don't want to demean his stature as a martyred novelist, but I wonder if Rizal's recall was somewhat tainted by his own class background. As I recall the family previously owned a substantial estate in Calamba. Then Rizal's father or somebody in the family pissed off Spanish officials and they were stripped of much of their property. So perhaps, reflecting from his experiences in a landowning family, he might recall the handing out to peasants as more generous than it actually was. Obviously speculation on my part, but novelists do have license to depict circumstances in a more romantic light than others might recall.
I've read some accounts from a much earlier period that describe the early Spanish governance structure. They appointed officials, primarily Spanish and a few trusted Mestizos, to govern at all levels on down to the local level. Except they provided them no funds for carrying out their offices. Instead they gave them free hand to collect whatever taxes they could, usually in the form of a percentage of the harvest. Each higher level official then imposed these same tolls on lower level officials. The Spanish set up most of their colonies in an extractive model, getting out as much as possible while expending as little as possible, as opposed to setting up enduring institutions that would permit the locals eventually to be self-governing.
One Spanish cleric from the earliest period described the injustice of the system that extracted these resources from people already living near starvation. So one explanation of history may be that the colony transitioned from one that preyed on the poorest to one that provided charitably to the dependent poor. Another interpretation may be that, from Spanish colonization onward, those that own the land have never really had a first-hand understanding of the lives of the landless.
Having originally cast the scene as dependency, I can see that from another angle it might be depicted as intentionally propagated helplessness.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2262247]
Except they provided them no funds for carrying out their offices. Instead they gave them free hand to collect whatever taxes they could, usually in the form of a percentage of the harvest. Each higher level official then imposed these same tolls on lower level officials.
[/QUOTE]One can say that not much has changed in 300 years. The Barangay Captain's official salary is between 600-1000 PHP a month, but I think they do very nicely in other ways. LOL.
I am currently working on an assignment out of the country where the girls here have no appeal to me and mongering opportunities are shall we say limited.
I have been chatting with a few girls about having them come over but am concerned about the Immigration checks at the airport to get them out of the country. I have read back on some posts on international travel and like everything here it appears to be a mixed bag of outcomes.
I'm looking for some recommendations to make it as smooth as possible and to increase my chances of getting them through and on the airplane.
Should I be with them at the airport or have them travel alone?
Are some ages more a target for questions than others? How about past travel experiences etc. ?
What documentation should I make sure that she has?
They can get visa on arrival here but can also obtain one in advance at the embassy in Manila. Should they get the visa first or rely on visa on arrival. I am leaning to having them get it first.
Is it better that I pay for the ticket or should she do the complete booking in her name? (Some of the girls I'm chatting with about coming here I trust to send airfare directly but not all of them.).
Would I be better off not looking in Phils but looking at girls from Indonesia or Singapore or elsewhere as the hassle of Pina getting past Immigration is to great?
Any other advice or suggestions welcome.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2263976]I am currently working on an assignment out of the country where the girls here have no appeal to me and mongering opportunities are shall we say limited.
Any other advice or suggestions welcome.[/QUOTE]Don't know if it will help but I can at least talk about my experience during my 1st trip in Bali, was in 2016.
I had chatted long time before with an Indo girl studying in KualaLumpur, and when I was on the ground in Bali, I didi chat with her again, and had the idea to propose she come for a week end to meet me there in Bali.
She agreed, so I propose to send money for the ticket but she prefer me buying ot in her name, otherwise she said there is a risk she spend all money.
So I did, on AIr Asia web site, from Ubud where I was, I bought the ticket with her name and email with all her details she gave me by msg. She came at Denpasar the day ater and stayed 2 days with me.
But she was Indo and travel from outside to her country so no great difficulties for customs and any other regulations at airport.
Now I have similar case, going to Phil and chatting with a Phil girl working in Qatar. We agreed to meet in Iloilo, as she will be for two months in Phil between two contracts. I paid a ticket in her name, and expect to meet her in Iloilo early January.
But I ask also to another Phil girl from Makati if she could meet me in Cambodia, and she said she had passport so no issue to fly to Cambodia alone and meet me there. But we didn't organize that up to now. May be later.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2263976]I am currently working on an assignment out of the country where the girls here have no appeal to me and mongering opportunities are shall we say limited.
I have been chatting with a few girls about having them come over but am concerned about the Immigration checks at the airport to get them out of the country. I have read back on some posts
Any other advice or suggestions welcome.[/QUOTE]Check you PMs KG. As you said lots of advice and really depends if the girl has been outside the country before or is a first timer. Now if she was rich / celebrity / politician or some one high who may have or have not committed a crime then they would be allowed out no issues. Just the cuties can be stopped (and I know a few plus OI know airline ground crew who man that area at the airport). I have taken 2 out at the same time before and none I have taken out has ever been stopped but good friends have had issues so a mixed bag.
Also read this as I for one was surprised by the number in the article (some of which I can see why they were stopped).
[URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/thousands-filipinos-barred-travel/[/URL]
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2263976]I am currently working on an assignment out of the country where the girls here have no appeal to me and mongering opportunities are shall we say limited.
I have been chatting with a few girls about having them come over but am concerned about the Immigration checks at the airport to get them out of the country. I have read back on some posts on international travel and like everything here it appears to be a mixed bag of outcomes.
[/QUOTE]I've taken 4 trips leaving the Philippines with a Filipina over the last 7 years. The last 3 with the same girl. The last trip was in 2017. Every time the girl and I have been questioned. Although I easily cleared immigration, when questioning the girl they called me over. Twice (once with each girl) we were taken to a side room and had to sign a document saying that we would return etc. The girls were 23 to 27 at the times of the trips. Both girls had current university student IDs with them. I would recommend that you accompany her particularly if she has a virgin passport.
There was a third girl who lives in Angeles, and I was discussing a possible trip with her. She was emphatic to me that we fly from Manila and not Angeles as she said they very often prohibit girls from leaving in Angeles.
I always gave them several hundred dollars in flash money, but neither girl was ever asked to show it. Both girls always had copies of all flight and hotel reservations. I would doctor the electronic hotel reservation to add the girls name if it didn't show both. Once or twice, they were asked to see the hotels and return flight reservations.
They always asked how long we knew each other and how many times we met. Every time but once they asked if we had photographs together. I had taken multiple trips with both girls in the Philippines. Once they specifically asked my GF where we had been together, and on the list was Baguio. The immigration officer wanted to see pictures in Baguio. My GF was scanning her tablet for Baguio pictures when the officer saw a picture of myself, her parents, and her in front of her home. The officer asked if those were her parents, and when she said yes. The officer stamped her passport and approved her.
[QUOTE=Paul2020;2263999]I always gave them several hundred dollars in flash money, but neither girl was ever asked to show it. Both girls always had copies of all flight and hotel reservations. I would doctor the electronic hotel reservation to add the girls name if it didn't show both. Once or twice, they were asked to see the hotels and return flight reservations.
They always asked how long we knew each other and how many times we met. Every time but once they asked if we had photographs together. I had taken multiple trips with both girls in the Philippines. Once they specifically asked my GF where we had been together, and on the list was Baguio. The immigration officer wanted to see pictures in Baguio. My GF was scanning her tablet for Baguio pictures when the officer saw a picture of myself, her parents, and her in front of her home. The officer asked if those were her parents, and when she said yes. The officer stamped her passport and approved her.[/QUOTE]Its very useful info for me being a newbie in this issue. Thanks for that.
I never taken any girl with me since been requested many times. But this time I got a fall on a 23 yr old uni girl very much keen to visit Thailand since her friends did but she did not. So I m on that. Thinking seriously now being with her family and place that seems like committing for something I don't want. The scenario you have given in this post made me thinking twice.
Happy Hunting.
Can be a problem, even in SE Asia where visa issues are not as strict. Assuming you are talking about a "girl" who is a prostitute, the love of your life is problematic to many people, amongst whom are airline staff, immigration folk and hotel staff. The Thai prostitutes who travel regularly to Singapore oin "business" know the ropes, to take lots of flash cash for shopping and so on. I know of instances where hotel security have raided hotels in Singapore when the man was white and the woman was SE Asia.
You did not say what the destination was. In anything like that, securing the visa is over half the work and doctoring receipts won't work with many Western countries.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2264106]Can be a problem, even in SE Asia where visa issues are not as strict. Assuming you are talking about a "girl" who is a prostitute, the love of your life is problematic to many people, amongst whom are airline staff, immigration folk and hotel staff. The Thai prostitutes who travel regularly to Singapore oin "business" know the ropes, to take lots of flash cash for shopping and so on. I know of instances where hotel security have raided hotels in Singapore when the man was white and the woman was SE Asia.
You did not say what the destination was. In anything like that, securing the visa is over half the work and doctoring receipts won't work with many Western countries.[/QUOTE]Taking a Pinay overseas for a holiday seems like a major headache. Photos with the in-laws, flash cash, medical insurance, newly minted passport, border control interrogations etc seems like a major hassle.
What's wrong with taking your instant girlfriend to Palawan? Seems like a nice place for a holiday. Oh yeah, she still needs valid ID to get on a plane and most don't have one.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2264378]Taking a Pinay overseas for a holiday seems like a major headache. Photos with the in-laws, flash cash, medical insurance, newly minted passport, border control interrogations etc seems like a major hassle.
What's wrong with taking your instant girlfriend to Palawan? Seems like a nice place for a holiday. Oh yeah, she still needs valid ID to get on a plane and most don't have one.[/QUOTE]Many forms of ID are accepted in Philippines for domestic airplane travel. I have seen school IDs, bar IDs, work IDs, postal IDs and barangay IDs used for airplane travel. I have seen Barangay IDs issued in one afternoon. Take your instant GF for a beach holiday!
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2264384]I have seen school IDs[/QUOTE]Thanks DG. A mate of mine at home once went to a fancy dress party with his chick dressed in a school uniform. Only thing was that was actually her school uniform. She was 17.
Now back to the Phils, I've asked this chick in Makati to go to her Barangay Office and get photo ID. She keeps asking me why? This is the one I sent money to for Christmas and she got her cousin to collect. Some chicks are just allergic to paperwork.
DG, has any chick used her hygiene card with the doctors stamps to get on a plane? LOL. One chick I was was with left her bar ID at the bar and only had her hygiene card, so the security guard accepted that and kept it at reception while she was banging me.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2264418]Thanks DG. A mate of mine at home once went to a fancy dress party with his chick dressed in a school uniform. Only thing was that was actually her school uniform. She was 17.
Now back to the Phils, I've asked this chick in Makati to go to her Barangay Office and get photo ID. She keeps asking me why? This is the one I sent money to for Christmas and she got her cousin to collect. Some chicks are just allergic to paperwork.
DG, has any chick used her hygiene card with the doctors stamps to get on a plane? LOL. One chick I was was with left her bar ID at the bar and only had her hygiene card, so the security guard accepted that and kept it at reception while she was banging me.[/QUOTE]Let me clarify this a bit. I stated these were acceptable IDs for airplane travel. Most of these IDs may not be acceptable to get money at WU or other money transfer places. I have been told that some money places have a higher ID standard for foreign incoming money transfers than domestic transfers.
I have had hotels accept the girl's 2 year expired high school picture ID.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2264489]Let me clarify this a bit. I stated these were acceptable IDs for airplane travel. Most of these IDs may not be acceptable to get money at WU or other money transfer places. I have been told that some money places have a higher ID standard for foreign incoming money transfers than domestic transfers.
I have had hotels accept the girl's 2 year expired high school picture ID.[/QUOTE]Within the Philippines any ID is OK as you say DG. Took girls from Cebu to Manila etc using school ID, postal and one time a fake drivers ID. As long as the name and photo look OK then no one asks.
But overseas clearly a passport but then could be a nightmare so it pays to plan and be prepared.
I've now met about 6 bar girls / waitresses / massage girls who want to go home to the provinces or the regional towns that they came from and open a sari sari store. One of them failed in this venture previously, but wants to have another attempt at it. What's changed? Has she now got a degree in economics or commerce? A couple of them knew that relatives and friends will buy shit from the store on credit and never, ever pay back, thus sending the store broke. So what's the big fascination with sari sari stores? How much money can you make from selling coffee and shampoo sachets?
These girls can't budget one day in advance and they think that somehow they can run a business?
A side note which you might find amusing. I gave a sweet young thing who've I've been in contact with a chunk of money for Christmas. She never asked, but I just gave it to her as I wanted to do something nice. It wasn't a lot by western standards, but a fairly sizeable amount by Pinay massage girl standards. In fact, it's probably more money than she's ever had. So what did she do with the money? She bought a new Samsung Galaxy phone, which is okay because she needs it for work. She really wanted to get an iPhone 8's, but I convinced her that a Samsung was cheaper and did the same thing. What did she do with the rest? Well, she spent the remainder on useless Christmas presents for her family. I told her to keep some for emergencies, like the electricity bill or next months' rent, but obviously budgeting for the next month was a totally foreign concept for her. LOL. She is now so broke that she can't afford a bus fare back to Caloocan from Makati for NYE. Unfortunately, my safe is closed and I can't remember the combination number. LOL.
And she is one of the girls that wants to own a sari sari store FFS! I love the Philippines.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2267085]I've now met about 6 bar girls / waitresses / massage girls who want to go home to the provinces or the regional towns that they came from and open a sari sari store. One of them failed in this venture previously, but wants to have another attempt at it. What's changed? Has she now got a degree in economics or commerce? A couple of them knew that relatives and friends will buy shit from the store on credit and never, ever pay back, thus sending the store broke. So what's the big fascination with sari sari stores? How much money can you make from selling coffee and shampoo sachets?
These girls can't budget one day in advance and they think that somehow they can run a business?
A side note which you might find amusing. I gave a sweet young thing who've I've been in contact with a chunk of money for Christmas. She never asked, but I just gave it to her as I wanted to do something nice. It wasn't a lot by western standards, but a fairly sizeable amount by Pinay massage girl standards. In fact, it's probably more money than she's ever had. So what did she do with the money? She bought a new Samsung Galaxy phone, which is okay because she needs it for work..[/QUOTE]Do you still think charity is good? Now, that sweet young thing is marooned in Makati without bus fare back to Caloocan for New Year's Eve because her self-reliance died the day that she learned some mongers are willing to wire large chunks of free cash to her from their rich country. Instead of giving rub and tugs to make an honest living, she now sits at Western Union remittance agencies with her new Samsung Galaxy phone using the free Wi-Fi to message pleas for cash donations from charitable mongers.
Now, you experienced firsthand how mongers providing welfare turn the hardest working girls into lazy mendicants who no longer have the pride and work ethic that once drove them to work that pussy until it squirt, never dreaming of asking foreigners for handouts. Unfortunately, the expectation of free cash remittances from abroad will now lead to that sweet young thing stranding herself in places far worse than the bus terminal in Makati, as she waits for a Western Union hero to save her from poverty.
It will not be long before the new Samsung Galaxy ends up in the nearest five six pawned for bus fare to Caloocan or snatched.
Just like everywhere else people think a business makes a ton of money. That every business owner is rich. I have known a few people who have started a store. They have great sales in the beginning. Downfall is extending credit and not setting aside money to restock. Other reason is family. Family think they are rich and hit them up for "loans". Family loans are never paid back.
Most sari sari stores make 200-300 pesos gross profit a day. Usually run by a family member who is home all day watching kids and washing clothes. Enough to put food on the table.
I remember a girl who sent her family some money to start a food cart. With in a week they were out of business. I asked why? They had sales of 400 a day and costs of 200, leaving a profit of 200. She said they spent the 400 sales one day leaving no money to restock the supplies for the next day! Sadly they would hound her everyday to send money for food.
I sent some Christmas money gift to one of my favorites and told her to tell me exactly how your name appears on your I the, Okay done and sent. I got a chat back oops she could not receive gift; please remove middle name and just put initial. OK, I did that. And that worked as I got a nice reply and thanks along with promises I hope happen. It seems even the simplest questions get wrong answer from these girls. Just go with the flow, it is worth it. BTW, W Union is apparently very picky.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2267085]
A side note which you might find amusing. I gave a sweet young thing who've I've been in contact with a chunk of money for Christmas. She never asked, but I just gave it to her as I wanted to do something nice. It wasn't a lot by western standards, but a fairly sizeable amount by Pinay massage girl standards. In fact, it's probably more money than she's ever had. So what did she do with the money? She bought a new Samsung Galaxy phone, which is okay because she needs it for work. She really wanted to get an iPhone 8's, but I convinced her that a Samsung was cheaper and did the same thing. What did she do with the rest? Well, she spent the remainder on useless Christmas presents for her family. I told her to keep some for emergencies, like the electricity bill or next months' rent, but obviously budgeting for the next month was a totally foreign concept for her. LOL. She is now so broke that she can't afford a bus fare back to Caloocan from Makati for NYE. Unfortunately, my safe is closed and I can't remember the combination number. LOL.
.[/QUOTE]At the moment I am sponsoring my 19 year old cutie through a program which is needed for experience to get a job. Sent her some money for x mas. Part of it for x mas with her fellow students. Gave her some more money for a passport. She spent that money to get braces. Her teeth were perfect before. She mentioned about braces when I was with her. I told her she does not really need it and let it go.
Sent some more money for her dress for x mas with some extra money. Sent some more money for her birthday with family. I told her to save some money from all the money I sent for a rainy day.
Other day she tells me she needs some more money for exams. I knew very well what I paid for her educations covers everything in full. I told her I will not send anymore money till she learns to control her spending. Also asked her about why she is asking for money all the time and how she managed before I got into the picture. I told her if she needs money she should find a job. These lazy girls do not make any effort to work hard. I told her clearly there will not be any money coming till I see her next time.
Sometimes you need to put your foot down. So what if she finds somebody. There are always plenty of girls looking for money.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2267270]
Sometimes you need to put your foot down. So what if she finds somebody. There are always plenty of girls looking for money.[/QUOTE]Most poor women from developing countries have little knowledge about money management as they've never had any money to start with. Most of the financial decisions are made by men. We can't expect them to change their behaviour after generations of financial illiteracy.
Just give what you want with no expectation in return and enjoy the momentary pleasure that brings.
I've already moved on from mine. LOL. As you say, there are plenty of girls looking for money.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2267300]Most poor women from developing countries have little knowledge about money management as they've never had any money to start with. Most of the financial decisions are made by men. We can't expect them to change their behaviour after generations of financial illiteracy.
Just give what you want with no expectation in return and enjoy the momentary pleasure that brings.
I've already moved on from mine. LOL. As you say, there are plenty of girls looking for money.[/QUOTE]There is also a distinction between being able to manage small and large sums of money.
I've actually found many of the girls are good at micro managing small amounts when things are tight. Preparing cheap meals, bargaining for goods and the like.
However, they have no experience with, and are atrocious at, managing relatively large sums. As you found, annual tuition, Celebration funding or house payments are often rediverted and frittered away. This is especially true if there is a magic pot that mysteriously keeps replacing these lost funds.
Strangely, I also know guys who are the opposite: successfully manage their large investment pools but $100 burns a hole in their pocket.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2267309]There is also a distinction between being able to manage small and large sums of money.
I've actually found many of the girls are good at micro managing small amounts when things are tight. Preparing cheap meals, bargaining for goods and the like.
However, they have no experience with, and are atrocious at, managing relatively large sums. As you found, annual tuition, Celebration funding or house payments are often rediverted and frittered away. This is especially true if there is a magic pot that mysteriously keeps replacing these lost funds.
Strangely, I also know guys who are the opposite: successfully manage their large investment pools but $100 burns a hole in their pocket.[/QUOTE]Poor money management can be said about some pooreingners. Some have left the home land with a mountain of debt and creditors chasing them. The only thing going for them is the unattachable monthly pension check. Which they will pxss away before months end.
Most Pinays can’t hold on to the bankable funds due to tremendous pressure from family, cousins and friends for money. The pressure is so great that I knew a girl who quit her job because of the new found relatives money requests. I saw her cell phone with all the new found “cousin’s” request for money. She told me even though she was hungry that it was much less stressful to say she wasn’t working anymore and had no money.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2267315]Poor money management can be said about some pooreingners. Some have left the home land with a mountain of debt and creditors chasing them. The only thing going for them is the unattachable monthly pension check. Which they will pxss away before months end.
Most Pinays cant hold on to the bankable funds due to tremendous pressure from family, cousins and friends for money. The pressure is so great that I knew a girl who quit her job because of the new found relatives money requests. I saw her cell phone with all the new found cousins request for money. She told me even though she was hungry that it was much less stressful to say she wasnt working anymore and had no money.[/QUOTE]More than one pinay I have known and know who are OFW face the same issues.
I advise them to have an account in the Philippines one that no one know abut and put a third of their salary there for a rainy day etc. Rest is split between any lay family request and herself on the country (generally UAE and the cost of living is high there). But. The family get to know, they are 'rich' so family want a sari sari store (with the obvious results as posted earlier), want the latest Nike etc. Then lola is sick etc. Happens all so often that the only way is cut them off, block them from all chat apps etc. One has done this and her life is better she says from the daily requests and people being sick etc.
Another followed the advice had her secret stash but her sis found out when the pinay had a slip of the tongue. She gave her trusting sister the PIN so she could start the house for herself when she returned only to find the family had spent it all on stupid things so she had no savings, no house, no job and was screwed. All by her family!
And they never learn. You can share these experiences with them but they won't believe you, won't listen then ask you for help when the sh*t hits the fam and hey have been undone by their loving family LOL.
I'm pretty much of a night owl when on the prowl, which means that I can sometimes find myself out during the wee hours of the morning. Can anybody recommend any good restaurants in Makati, Cebu, or Angeles City that are open 24/7 with a good assortment of dishes on the menu? I just may find myself wanting something to eat at say 3 or 4 in the morning if I am still out and about all by my lonesome self. So if you know of any places that are both reliable and good, please do tell. And thanks in advance for any info!
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2267300]
Just give what you want with no expectation in return and enjoy the momentary pleasure that brings.[/QUOTE]I sent my honey a pretty good sized Christmas gift. She let me know she had recieved it and was sooooo thankful, I didn't even ask what she would do with the money. Better to not know and avoid the temptation of a judgemental reply by me. I am sure it was gone in less than one day.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2267395]More than one pinay I have known and know who are OFW face the same issues.
I advise them to have an account in the Philippines one that no one know abut and put a third of their salary there for a rainy day etc. Rest is split between any lay family request and herself on the country (generally UAE and the cost of living is high there). But. The family get to know, they are 'rich' so family want a sari sari store (with the obvious results as posted earlier), want the latest Nike etc. Then lola is sick etc. Happens all so often that the only way is cut them off, block them from all chat apps etc. One has done this and her life is better she says from the daily requests and people being sick etc.
Another followed the advice had her secret stash but her sis found out when the pinay had a slip of the tongue. She gave her trusting sister the PIN so she could start the house for herself when she returned only to find the family had spent it all on stupid things so she had no savings, no house, no job and was screwed. All by her family!
And they never learn. You can share these experiences with them but they won't believe you, won't listen then ask you for help when the sh*t hits the fam and hey have been undone by their loving family LOL.[/QUOTE]I have heard by defacto Philippine law, the family is entitled to half of the earnings. She was committing a major crime by hiding her earnings from the family!
Bottom line is the girls think they are poor and will stay poor even if they save some of the donated money. Do not realize if they save little by little it adds up.
Another problem is parents baby their children treating them like small kids even though they are 18-25 . Many do not even bother girl has to work hard to better herself. Although jobs are tough there are plenty of girls working in grocery stores, shop malls etc. Granted pay is low but will help help their resume with experience.
My previous girl was living in Lapu Lapu. She got a job in Ayala Mall. It takes roughly an hour and half to get there by Jeepney. Not counting hot, sweaty, sardine can comfort. She refused to go. Is it better to earn money or sitting at home with no money?
Supporting foreigners come and go with no guarantees. There is always a better girl to be had with your money. Once they reach a certain age it will hard to attract sponsors.
There was a very pretty girl in Angeles I knew. High flying and earning good money. Lost touch with her. After many years I met her at a Manila mall toting three kids. She smiled at me but I did not recognize her. She came and talked to me and reminded me who she was. Her and the kids wearing hand me down clothes and looking miserable. She said she was married but now alone. I gave her some money for old time sake. Obviously did not save any money and made wrong choices in life.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2267270]....She spent that money to get braces. Her teeth were perfect before. She mentioned about braces when I was with her. I told her she does not really need it and let it go.
....[/QUOTE]What is with the fucking braces? A sizable number of girls are now sporting these. They end up keeping them on for much longer than needed because they can not afford to have them tightened so they stay on mostly for decoration.
I have seen pictures of 50 somethings with tin grins.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2267653]Bottom line is the girls think they are poor and will stay poor even if they save some of the donated money. Do not realize if they save little by little it adds up.
.....[/QUOTE]Poor people with no experience handling money will always end up broke because they simply do not know how to budget and do not expect to have money in the future.
They will spend and give to family in the expectation that when they need it returned it will be, not always in the form of an explicit loan repayment but often in help, room and board etc, when they need it.
Culturally they believe that savings is done in the form of giving to family and getting back when they need it. Of course in every family there are some free loaders taking advantage of this and that will always keep the girls poor.
I had a long term GF from SA back home. She was from a very poor family. One day I gave her $2000 CDN to pay off her credit card, within two weeks her sister, just as poor, got a tax refund. Instead of paying off some debts sister bought tickets to Vancouver to see a concert. GF bought VIP backstage tickets on the newly paid off credit card.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2267736]Poor people with no experience handling money will always end up broke because they simply do not know how to budget and do not expect to have money in the future.
[/QUOTE]Sorry, but I've got to call BS on this one. While many stay with in poverty traps there are also self made millionaires who started from very humble backgrounds. For these, growing up in poverty can become a great incentive to better themselves and generate a point to prove.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2267745]Sorry, but I've got to call BS on this one. While many stay with in poverty traps there are also self made millionaires who started from very humble backgrounds. For these, growing up in poverty can become a great incentive to better themselves and generate a point to prove.[/QUOTE]And there are those with millions who died when a fifteen foot stack of hoarded newspapers fell on them. In the end all that's remember of them was the neighbor saying "I thought they were broke, they never spent any money".
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2267733]What is with the fucking braces? A sizable number of girls are now sporting these. They end up keeping them on for much longer than needed because they can not afford to have them tightened so they stay on mostly for decoration.[/QUOTE]One of my girls is a dentist and she puts a lot of braces on pinays. I asked why they wanted them when in many cases they didn't need them and probably had more pressing expenses to cover, She told me the girls look at them as a status symbol leting others know they have or a least had some money. She does 1 to 3 sets everyday. She is making a good living doing this.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2267733]What is with the fucking braces? A sizable number of girls are now sporting these. They end up keeping them on for much longer than needed because they can not afford to have them tightened so they stay on mostly for decoration.
I have seen pictures of 50 somethings with tin grins.[/QUOTE]Most of them are fake. This craze has been going in Thailand and Philippines for years. Braces equates to wealth and status. It's kind of like lower class Indonesian men growing their finger nail long on their pinky. It shows they are not field labourers.
[URL]https://medium.com/navigo/braces-are-cool-in-asia-d974431c9e9e[/URL]
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2267754]Most of them are fake. This craze has been going in Thailand and Philippines for years. Braces equates to wealth and status. It's kind of like lower class Indonesian men growing their finger nail long on their pinky. It shows they are not field labourers.
[URL]https://medium.com/navigo/braces-are-cool-in-asia-d974431c9e9e[/URL][/QUOTE]I like the fake braces! Makes them look cute. I like cute and a little squeal when I am boring.
Love my second chance to bang young hotties. I am only as old as the hotties I am banging!
[QUOTE=Goferring;2267745]Sorry, but I've got to call BS on this one. While many stay with in poverty traps there are also self made millionaires who started from very humble backgrounds. For these, growing up in poverty can become a great incentive to better themselves and generate a point to prove.[/QUOTE]OK I will give yiu the less than one in a million odds of someone making it from abjet poverty to wealth as proof that some poor people can handle money.
However they are just about as rare as unicorns.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2267162]Do you still think charity is good? Now, that sweet young thing is marooned in Makati without bus fare back to Caloocan for New Year's Eve because her self-reliance died the day that she learned some mongers are willing to wire large chunks of free cash to her from their rich country. Instead of giving rub and tugs to make an honest living, she now sits at Western Union remittance agencies with her new Samsung Galaxy phone using the free Wi-Fi to message pleas for cash donations from charitable mongers.
Now, you experienced firsthand how mongers providing welfare turn the hardest working girls into lazy mendicants who no longer have the pride and work ethic that once drove them to work that pussy until it squirt, never dreaming of asking foreigners for handouts. Unfortunately, the expectation of free cash remittances from abroad will now lead to that sweet young thing stranding herself in places far worse than the bus terminal in Makati, as she waits for a Western Union hero to save her from poverty.
It will not be long before the new Samsung Galaxy ends up in the nearest five six pawned for bus fare to Caloocan or snatched.[/QUOTE]Chocha Monger, you are spot on. Good post.
I agree that free handouts destroy a Pinay's resilience and work ethic. So why do western men from rich countries keep falling into this trap? Paternal instincts cloud their sound judgement. They think they are doing something to help out the poor Pinay in distress and charity makes them feel better. Maybe we should stop interfering in the natural order of things.
I will explain the circumstances surrounding this poor massage girl, relate it back to what Choca Monger says and you can understand how everything goes wrong in a Pinay's life. This girl came back to Makati from Caloocan after Christmas to make a few extra pesos before heading back home for NYE. Caloocan is only about 1. 5 hours away from Makati so this was a feasible plan. On the 28 Dec she had one western massage client at her shop. After the flip, he points to his hard on and asks for sex. She refuses. He then offers her 3,500 PHP for one pop, right there on the table. Thats right, $70 USD for 10 minutes work. She still refuses, but goes into the lounge and brings back her co-worker, introduces her to the monger and leaves. The co-worker gladly accepts the mission.
On the 29 Dec, it pissses down all day and night in Makati and there is not a single walk-in monger. So she goes home empty handed. Not to worry, there is always tomorrow to get a few extra mongers and a few extra pesos to afford the bus fare home. However, the rain does not stop on the 30 Dec. It's still pisssing down. Her boss texts her at 8. 00 pm and tells her he is not coming in to open the shop and for her to take the night off. Panic doesn't quite set in yet as she knows that Mr Rich, Dumb Westerner will just send her a nice chunk of money to Western Union to rescue her. Only by this time, I've had enough of all this drama and pull the plug. So she then goes to her cousin's family and they won't lend her the 100 PHP saying they too are broke. She goes back to her apartment in a sheer state of panic now.
Now if I hadn't interfered in the natural order, would things have turned out differently? Would this Pinay have maintained her work ethic and not worried about pride? Probably yes. She would have taken the FS assignment and pocketed a nice 3,500 PHP which would have been enough for her to sponsor a massive NYE's party at her family's house. Why did she knock back the FS assignment? Because she assumed she had a rich foreigner BF who would always keeping sending money and that spreading her legs on the massage table was now beneath her.
For those who are wondering what a five-six is which CM refers to, that denotes the 20% weekly interest payable on micro loans. That is, if a Pinay borrows 50 pesos, she must pay back the money lender 60 peso the following week.
Arriving in Cebu today, Jan 3rd. Staying near Ayala for about a week.
PM if anyone wants to meet over beers or lies.
Cheers, G.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2268022]By any chance are you a prodigy of Anthony Bourdain. Rest his soul![/QUOTE]Would someone please explain to me the frequent AB jokes on the forums? I assume he used cooking shows as a convenient cover story??
[QUOTE=Goferring;2269065]Would someone please explain to me the frequent AB jokes on the forums? I assume he used cooking shows as a convenient cover story??[/QUOTE]Maybe because he entrusted his heart and tried to help out a woman who was eventually found out to be fooling around with another guy. Then he killed himself like the same day or day after when he found out. I guess that scenario plays out more often in Thailand than PI, or at least it is seen in the news more often in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2269065]Would someone please explain to me the frequent AB jokes on the forums? I assume he used cooking shows as a convenient cover story??[/QUOTE]In the referenced post AB was about eating around the world. In other references it was that AB was a fellow monger around the world. In some of his episodes he would point out some pnp locations.
I was vid-calling Mrs G at a time when I was alone and the room was free of incriminating evidence. All was going well. I was sitting on the bed chatting away. Then suddenly the girly I had invited up later came thru the door, much earlier than expected, talking in a full voice on speaker phone. Next to her was her girlfriend doing the same thing. The ruckus would have been clearly audible by my phone's mic.
Needless to say, I shit myself and tried to get them to be quiet and disappear. Obviously this is impossible while in the middle of a video call. At some point I've had my arms flapping around, getting them to shut up and generally get out of the room (which the girls instinctively did) and accidentally rotated the camera to the front screen. This gave Mrs G a full view of my panicked face, the girls walking through the door unhindered, my arms flapping around and then them making a hasty retreat. These girls clearly were not old haggards, there to clean the room.
To say Mrs G was unimpressed and demanding an explanation is an understatement. Obviously, there is no explanation for two hot chicks to be walking straight through the door into her husband's room at 8 pm. All I could do was play stupid and repeatedly say that there is no one in the room and I don't know what she saw or is talking about. There is no way I'm going to get away with this totally unscathed and the return home is going to be eventful.
My biggest fuck up was not keeping the front door locked. The one thing that I didn't realise was that the AirBnB that I was staying at has residential (not commercial hotel) door latch sets. This means that they must be manually locked everytime rather than automatically locking whenever the door closes (as hotel doors do).
Moral of the story: always check your door and know whether it locks automatically or manually.
Be careful out there.
Cheers, G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2269651], G.[/QUOTE]Not sure how you can lock the door now that the horse has bolted. A lot obviously depends on your relationship with Mrs G and the reason for your travels. On what you've given, I'd take the high moral ground and leave where you are staying. (even book a shtt hole nearby and commute between them). Tell Mrs G to stick AirBNB, never again etc, tramps and their boyfriends wandering in and out, used your towel to dry their feet (put a stinky deflection in), they took your prize food etc. Don't bring up the subject but let her do it.
Not sure if she will swallow all that but it will cloud the picture. Housewives have their own intelligence dept and she will be reporting back on you. A bad move is giving these women the run of the joint but we learn by our mistakes.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2269651]My biggest fuck up was not keeping the front door locked. Be careful out there.Cheers, G.[/QUOTE]WOW! Double WOW! Nothing but bad shit can come from all that my friend! Get a good lawyer. Even if she forgives, she won't forget, or ever let you forget it either! Good luck.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2269651]
To say Mrs G was unimpressed and demanding an explanation is an understatement. Obviously, there is no explanation for two hot chicks to be walking straight through the door into her husband's room at 8 pm. All I could do was play stupid and repeatedly say that there is no one in the room and I don't know what she saw or is talking about. There is no way I'm going to get away with this totally unscathed and the return home is going to be eventful.
.[/QUOTE]Holy fucking Jesus! That is a mongers' worst nightmare. I'm wishing you all the best G Man. If we don't get any more FRs from you in a few months time, we will know it didn't end well.
I'm the same. I don't know when my mongering life is going to end by being sprung and people back here at home discover the double life I've been leading for 30 years. I reckon it's only a matter of time.
The only way you can get out of this is to say that people keep walking in and out AirBnBs as the whole floor is rented out and all entrance doors look the same. Those two totally hot chicas must have walked in by accident, which is quite possible.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2269651]I was vid-calling Mrs G at a time when I was alone and the room was free of incriminating evidence. All was going well. I was sitting on the bed chatting away. Then suddenly the girly I had invited up later came thru the door, much earlier than expected, talking in a full voice on speaker phone. Next to her was her girlfriend doing the same thing. The ruckus would have been clearly audible by my phone's mic.[/QUOTE]Depending on what was said, what is the big deal? You had your door open letting some air flow through and some drunk chicks were out in the hall making all kind of noise and wandered into your place.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2269812]Depending on what was said, what is the big deal? You had your door open letting some air flow through and some drunk chicks were out in the hall making all kind of noise and wandered into your place.[/QUOTE]The most damning thing was not the girls walking into my room but my freaked out reaction too it. We all like to think we would act calmly under pressure but it was something I was totally unprepared for and just wanted them out ASAP. Accidentally flipping that fucking camera certainly didn't help.
Rather than make elaborate excuses, I kept to my story that there were no girls in the room and I don't know what she saw because I can't see her phone screen. I'm not going to vary from that story. Mrs G seems to have calmed down, even saying I should go to security and complain about girls being able to walk into my room but I have no doubt this will not be forgotten.
I doubt they will, but if things do go heavily sideways I'm already lawyered up. We went through a mild rough patch years ago (for unrelated reasons) and I sought legal advice then from the best guys in town. Where I'm from, conflict of interest rules mean that they can now only ever act for me and cannot ever advise or act for Mrs G. Something to remember for any guys that may be nervous about anything: be the first one onto the best lawyers' office. Not the second.
Rumours of my death are greatly exaggerated. If I'm going down it's not going to be for girls just walking into my room. The offending girl is in the bed beside me now and found the best ways to apologize for causing the fiasco. 😁 I'll be a lot more careful moving forward but life goes on.
Cheers, G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2269828]Rather than make elaborate excuses, I kept to my story that there were no girls in the room and I don't know what she saw because I can't see her phone screen. I'm not going to vary from that story. [/QUOTE]You are doing the right thing. Like Richard Pryor said, "Are you going to believe me, or your lying eyes?
[QUOTE=Goferring;2269828]The most damning thing was not the girls walking into my room but my freaked out reaction too it. We all like to think we would act calmly under pressure but it was something I was totally unprepared for and just wanted them out ASAP. Accidentally flipping that fucking camera certainly didn't help.
Rather than make elaborate excuses, I kept to my story that there were no girls in the room and I don't know what she saw because I can't see her phone screen. I'm not going to vary from that story. Mrs G seems to have calmed down, even saying I should go to security and complain about girls being able to walk into my room but I have no doubt this will not be forgotten.
I doubt they will, but if things do go heavily sideways I'm already lawyered up. Cheers, G.[/QUOTE]So, did she imagine you freaked out too, in addition to seeing the two female mirages? Her circle of friends will join dots there. You also seem to be very aggressive lawyer-wise. The law should be the last resort but Deus Vult.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2269842]You are doing the right thing. Like Richard Pryor said, "Are you going to believe me, or your lying eyes?[/QUOTE]"Deny, deny, deny, deny, deny" - from 'How to cheat on your wife'.
[QUOTE=JackBurton;2269941]"Deny, deny, deny, deny, deny" - from 'How to cheat on your wife'.[/QUOTE]I prefer Goebells' "tell the same lie until it's the truth" approach.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2269843]You also seem to be very aggressive lawyer-wise. The law should be the last resort but Deus Vult.[/QUOTE]The lawyers were / are not engaged in an offensive capacity. I don't like surprises so they were used in a "what if" advisor capacity for contingency planning. The good thing is that should the worst happen (which I don't expect), being proactive many years ago means that the best lawyers in town are locked up for my benefit for life. That's reassuring.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2269955]I prefer Goebells' "tell the same lie until it's the truth" approach.[/QUOTE]Thought that was Donald Trump LOL.
After G Man's brush with death, I went on Amazon to see if there were professional guides on how to get away with cheating. I found one interesting book and here's just the intro. The book looks like it could have been written by Mr. E. LOL.
"Cheating is wrong. This book is not an open pass for infidelity or fornication. It is truly a real life guide. Men are leaving the wife / girlfriend at home and going out in public with the woman on the side. Men are forgetting that women on the side are expendable pieces of recreation that should be used for temporary physical, mental or financial gain. The key word to that last sentence is temporary! Women on the side hold the same complicated value as a complicated video game. It s fun to play and it may involve some time but when it is all said and done, you can always turn the damn thing off and get back to real life. This book will teach you how to maintain your home life and how to play the streets. Women know we cheat! This is not some new profound thing. It s how you do it! There are rules to this game. After reading this book you will be a better cheater, well informed or a committed man! Please remember this one fact, I didn' t create the game. I'm just narrating it!"
[QUOTE=Goferring;2269955]I prefer Goebells' "tell the same lie until it's the truth" approach.[/QUOTE]It worked!! 😳.
"I don't know what you're talking about but if you are so concerned grab the kids and come up here. I'll book a nice place and we can have a family holiday for the last week. ".
Might have to slow down a bit to make sure there are a couple of shots left in the chamber when she arrives but it's a small price to pay.
Talk about lucky beating skillful. That's was close. 😅.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2270329]It worked!! 😳.
"I don't know what you're talking about but if you are so concerned grab the kids and come up here. I'll book a nice place and we can have a family holiday for the last week. ".
Might have to slow down a bit to make sure there are a couple of shots left in the chamber when she arrives but it's a small price to pay.
Talk about lucky beating skillful. That's was close. 😅.[/QUOTE]Well done G. I think we all want to know how you managed to escape Christmas and New Year in your home town and were allowed to go to mongering heaven instead.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2269828]Rumours of my death are greatly exaggerated. If I'm going down it's not going to be for girls just walking into my room. The offending girl is in the bed beside me now and found the best ways to apologize for causing the fiasco. 😁 I'll be a lot more careful moving forward but life goes on.Cheers, G.[/QUOTE]You never really know if it worked until your back face-to-face with her reading it if your lying. Fuck marriage and the institution. The Art of War: The best way to win a war is to not get in one in the first place!
[QUOTE=Goferring;2269651]
.....
To say Mrs G was unimpressed and demanding an explanation is an understatement. Obviously, there is no explanation for two hot chicks to be walking straight through the door into her husband's room at 8 pm. All I could do was play stupid and repeatedly say that there is no one in the room and I don't know what she saw or is talking about. There is no way I'm going to get away with this totally unscathed and the return home is going to be eventful.
....[/QUOTE]My friend you are truly and totally fucked.
And not in a good way.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2270644]My friend you are truly and totally fucked.
And not in a good way.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger]Dear Goferring,
Sorry to hear of your troubles. You fucked up spectacularly. Although the wife appears to be buying your bullshit, she really is not. She is just biding her time until the opportunity for revenge presents itself.
When you least expect it, she will feed your prick to the geese. I strongly suggest you wear tight underwear to bed and heavy denim pants with the fly sewn shut unless you wish to look out the window only to see the geese tearing apart your dismembered prick with their beaks as if it were a fat pink worm.
Good luck sleeping with one eye open for the remainder of your marriage. You sir are a braver man than most. LOL! I hope the Pinay strumpets were worth the trouble that is coming your way friend. LOL!
Best regards,
CM[/QUOTE]Thanks for your support.
It's all under control. I'm waaaay too smart for anything to go wrong now. 😁 😉.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2270659]Thanks for your support.
It's all under control. I'm waaaay too smart for anything to go wrong now. 😁 😉.[/QUOTE]That might be a direct quote from Michael Douglass in "The War of the Roses". Hahaha.
Hi, would you like to give me your quick advice for sim card with 3 G /4 G access and data for 3 weeks to buy in the Manila airport? Best brands, if any, and price recommended, to be used in Pinay and Manila, and where in airport if special places?
Same for taxis to go to Makati, I read that Yellow ones are ok, and there should be also Grab or Uber? Cost less than 300 Ph for Makati?
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2271065]Hi, would you like to give me your quick advice for sim card with 3 G /4 G access and data for 3 weeks to buy in the Manila airport? Best brands, if any, and price recommended, to be used in Pinay and Manila, and where in airport if special places?
Same for taxis to go to Makati, I read that Yellow ones are ok, and there should be also Grab or Uber? Cost less than 300 Ph for Makati?[/QUOTE]Two options Globe or Smart.
You can get a free SIM for either as soon as you leave the airport. Otherwise 40 to 50 p. Both work about the same anywhere in Manila or built up places.
Globe is 500 p for 5 gb data, valid for 30 days or 1000 for unlimited data valid for 30 days.
Unlimited plan gas "we were just kidding about unlimited" AKA "fair use" policy that kicks in, sometimes after 400 mb a day and throttles you to 2 G speeds. Not sure about Smart right now but they will be close in both costs and terms.
Lots of taxi scams reported but I have never found one, take whatever is quickest available. No Uber here any more, all Grab. Generally Grab is slightly more expensive that taxi so use taxi if one handy otherwise order Grab. Grab is better off the beaten track where taxi do not usually drop off passengers but taxi is good from a major hotel where there are lots of arriving cabs.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2270659]Thanks for your support.
It's all under control. I'm waaaay too smart for anything to go wrong now. 😁 😉.[/QUOTE]Direct quote from General Custer as he rode towards Little Big Horn?
Mrs G is playing it smart, making you think that she is thinking about the lawn mower while she is rearranging your bank accounts into her bank accounts, throwing out your little league ball glove and selling your baseball card collection, talking to locksmiths and lawyers.
Check out the real estate section from home, how much is she asking for the house?
Check your joint credit cards, are they maxed out yet?
If we can be anymore help, just ask LOL.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2271093]Direct quote from General Custer as he rode towards Little Big Horn? Mrs G is playing it smart, making you think that she is thinking about the lawn mower while she is rearranging your bank accounts into her bank accounts, throwing out your little league ball glove and selling your baseball card collection, talking to locksmiths and lawyers..[/QUOTE]I have to agree, I think your in for some shit when you get home, your in denial G. Obviously only you know your woman better than anybody here, but I would not discount the person that's in legal possession of half my shyte!
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2271093]Direct quote from General Custer as he rode towards Little Big Horn?
Mrs G is playing it smart, making you think that she is thinking about the lawn mower while she is rearranging your bank accounts into her bank accounts, throwing out your little league ball glove and selling your baseball card collection, talking to locksmiths and lawyers.
Check out the real estate section from home, how much is she asking for the house?
Check your joint credit cards, are they maxed out yet?
If we can be anymore help, just ask LOL.[/QUOTE]I don't understand. Are you saying that having her as a Company Co-Director is a bad thing? Our accountant, her sister, said moving all our assets into her name was much more tax effective.
That's good, right? 👍.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2271089]Two options Globe or Smart.
You can get a free SIM for either as soon as you leave the airport. Otherwise 40 to 50 p. Both work about the same anywhere in Manila or built up places.
Globe is 500 p for 5 gb data, valid for 30 days or 1000 for unlimited data valid for 30 days.
Unlimited plan gas "we were just kidding about unlimited" AKA "fair use" policy that kicks in, sometimes after 400 mb a day and throttles you to 2 G speeds. Not sure about Smart right now but they will be close in both costs and terms.
Lots of taxi scams reported but I have never found one, take whatever is quickest available. No Uber here any more, all Grab. Generally Grab is slightly more expensive that taxi so use taxi if one handy otherwise order Grab. Grab is better off the beaten track where taxi do not usually drop off passengers but taxi is good from a major hotel where there are lots of arriving cabs.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot for this quick and useful answer!
But not sure if your answer to Mr G is at same useful level! . .
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[QUOTE=Goferring;2271108]I don't understand. Are you saying that having her as a Company Co-Director is a bad thing? Our accountant, her sister, said moving all our assets into her name was much more tax effective.
That's good, right? 👍.[/QUOTE]Yes, now she can keep everything and leave you with the tax bill.
Many mongers bang Pinay hookers bareback, with CIP being the holy grail of mongering. In AC, it seems to be the default position. In addition to the real STI risks, aren't mongers worried about creating more half-caste bastards? Does anyone ask the hooker when her period is due before leaving a big cum load deep in her pussy? Thought not.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2272725]Many mongers bang Pinay hookers bareback, with CIP being the holy grail of mongering. In AC, it seems to be the default position. In addition to the real STI risks, aren't mongers worried about creating more half-caste bastards? Does anyone ask the hooker when her period is due before leaving a big cum load deep in her pussy? Thought not.[/QUOTE]Yes, BBFS is the default position but I'm not so sure about CIP. I always ask beforehand if they are willing to go BB and the majority agrees to that provided that I don't CIP.
And if they agree without saying anything about CIP, then I ask them during our session. If I want to CIP anyway, because for me that's not so important.
I have also understood that quite a lot of bar girls are on birth control pills these days. However since about 3 years I'm only chasing freelancers and so far only one told me she was taking the pill. Could be there are more but I never ask them to be honest.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2272736]Yes, BBFS is the default position but I'm not so sure about CIP. I always ask beforehand if they are willing to go BB and the majority agrees to that provided that I don't CIP.
And if they agree without saying anything about CIP, then I ask them during our session. If I want to CIP anyway, because for me that's not so important.
I have also understood that quite a lot of bar girls are on birth control pills these days. However since about 3 years I'm only chasing freelancers and so far only one told me she was taking the pill. Could be there are more but I never ask them to be honest.[/QUOTE]From a logical standpoint, BB makes no sense at all. Its risky for the guy from a STI standpoint. For the girl, withdrawal is the least effective form of contraception and many guys are going to "accidently" stay a little long.
Of course, logic rarely comes into play when little head is taking all the blood flow.
I'd agree that its extremely rare to fund a freelancer / partimer / internet girl on the pill. None seem to give any / a credible reason why. It's something that has always dumbfounded me.
I do know several that resort to self medication of a morning after type pill if the guy did CIP and one who resorted to a grey market abortion pill. She paid the price for that with 3 months of heavy bleeding. She was too embarrassed to go to a hospital.
I'm not making a moral judgement on anyone, male or female but it seems lack of education for the girls costs them dearly in many ways.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2272785]
I'd agree that its extremely rare to fund a freelancer / partimer / internet girl on the pill. None seem to give any / a credible reason why. It's something that has always dumbfounded me.
[/QUOTE]I think the reasons are (in a random order):
1. It costs money. And we all know how short on cash they usually are.
2. The catholic church preaches abstinence, unless people are married (to each other!). So the pill or any other form of contraception, like condoms, should not be needed.
3. Contraception is for prostitutes and other sluts.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2273052]
3. Contraception is for prostitutes and other sluts.[/QUOTE]Valid point.
I had one girl tell me she didn't use the pill because she didn't have a boy friend in country so it wasnt needed. She then went on to say that she met "two or three" guys a month from Cupid etc.
I guess a girl in a steady relationship with one guy needs the pill. One banging random guys every week, doesn't. 🙄.
First time in Philippines. Looking for hotel / apartments close to seaport in Cebu. (Uncertain exactly where). Anyone have a driver / car to suggest? Only 7 nights. It would appear I will have no difficulties finding girls. PM or answer here. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2273052]I think the reasons are (in a random order):
1. It costs money. And we all know how short on cash they usually are.[/QUOTE]Funny how they never calculate the cost of a kid. In Thailand a chick of mine was taking her pills when she came to my room last month. The price was 2 fucking dollars for a month's worth of pills. Now tell me where you can raise a baby on $2 per month.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2273142]Funny how they never calculate the cost of a kid. In Thailand a chick of mine was taking her pills when she came to my room last month. The price was 2 fucking dollars for a month's worth of pills. Now tell me where you can raise a baby on $2 per month.[/QUOTE]I guess they say it's God's will when they get pregnant. Not because they didn't take the pill.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2273142]Funny how they never calculate the cost of a kid. In Thailand a chick of mine was taking her pills when she came to my room last month. The price was 2 fucking dollars for a month's worth of pills. Now tell me where you can raise a baby on $2 per month.[/QUOTE]More often than not, the kid is dumped off with the grandparents and extended family members in the province where it will live on less than a dollar per day. They will feed it rice porridge and foraged proteins obtained from insects, frogs, rodents, and eggs. The marginal cost of adding a member to the family is very low.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2272725]Many mongers bang Pinay hookers bareback, with CIP being the holy grail of mongering. In AC, it seems to be the default position. In addition to the real STI risks, aren't mongers worried about creating more half-caste bastards? Does anyone ask the hooker when her period is due before leaving a big cum load deep in her pussy? Thought not.[/QUOTE]Mongers have made plenty of babies in Philippines. I have personally seen many kids with AC girls who do not look Philippine. These girls love to have kids. Whiter the better. If you think, the psychology of these girls are different. They had nothing till they started with sex work. Once they start making good money they want kids. They are not thinking long term. They think they can support the kids without problems. If the sex work goes out of the window she will be struggling. Their own families will not support long term. But there is light at the end of the tunnel. For all their reputation of making girls pregnant and running away from the responsibilities Philippine men when they are older want a stable life. They are willing to marry ex bargirls and will support the kids with whatever meager income they have.
The girls really hate condoms. It is like long time ago in America before the scare of AIDS. Nobody used condoms. Some took birth control pills. Those who could not tolerate just got abortion without batting an eyelid. Religious ones had their baby and gave up for adoption. In some cases family took care of the kid. But then the social programs in USA supports the kid very well if they are eligible.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2273310]Once they start making good money they want kids. They are not thinking long term.[/QUOTE]They are also not considering that having a kid may severely limit their income potential. I've seen many girls go from most popular in the bar to struggling to make ends meet due to savage effects pregnancy had on them.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2273310] Once they start making good money they want kids. They are not thinking long term[/QUOTE]What have they seen all of their lives growing up? Money being sent home to parents from the kids to support the family, their family and all of the families around them. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out money comes from the kids on up. They have a kid and the kid is sent home to live with mom and dad while the girl keeps on earning, she's only lost a few months income. Once the baby comes she'll be back out earning for the family. Maybe she knows the more babies she has the more income she'll receive later in life when she can no longer sell her body?
So a couple of years ago a buddy of mine made some rant videos. He lived in the Dominican Republic for like 7 years then moved to Angeles. The videos were about never seriously date a Dominican. Only fuck them because they are all hookers. The next week he turns around and marries a chick that was working at a bar opposite Kokomos. This left everyone confused after seeing the videos. Well the shit finally fell apart. In a facebook group he posted pictures of how she had gone upside his head with an ugly stick.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2273440]So a couple of years ago a buddy of mine made some rant videos. He lived in the Dominican Republic for like 7 years then moved to Angeles. The videos were about never seriously date a Dominican. Only fuck them because they are all hookers. The next week he turns around and marries a chick that was working at a bar opposite Kokomos. This left everyone confused after seeing the videos. Well the shit finally fell apart. In a facebook group he posted pictures of how she had gone upside his head with an ugly stick.[/QUOTE]What did he do? Either he was stupid enough to set up his affairs so he was worth more dead than alive or he seriously pissed her off to warrant (in pina eyes) the retribution.
Both not the brightest things to do.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2273310] Once they start making good money they want kids. They are not thinking long term. [/QUOTE]Actually they are thinking long term because kids are their pension plan. Kids have to take care of them when they are too old or sick to work.
I'm a boring 40 yr. Old guy, with a boring job, heading to Cebu for 3-days (part of a work trip after). I'm looking for something I will remember forever (hot, freaky and frequent). I know. Already have my expectations to high. Especially after reading so many threads on Cebu being not the best place for quick mongering. I've been on the online sites (E. G. Filipina-cupid), but seems like a ton of work and geared toward longer stays. So, here's the challenge: arrive Friday and leave Monday, staying at Radisson. What would you do? Do I just focus on the bars (and eat the barfines? Do I buy good shoes for walking and pray for hot, unicorn freelancers? I just joined to seek advice from the experts, but happy to share my experience when done (success or fail). Thanks for any guidance on my miracle journey.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2273489]What did he do? Either he was stupid enough to set up his affairs so he was worth more dead than alive or he seriously pissed her off to warrant (in pina eyes) the retribution.
Both not the brightest things to do.[/QUOTE]Nooo idea brother. Another buddy of mine said she probably just got tired of being told what to do.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2273501]Actually they are thinking long term because kids are their pension plan. Kids have to take care of them when they are too old or sick to work.[/QUOTE]Exactly. The difference in our cultures. We teach our kids to get educated and be able to take care of themselves. They teach their kids to grow up and take care of them. IMHO it is pretty much a dead end culture.
So funny I was watching a video yesterday and Floyd Mayweather showed his multimillion dollar collection of 41 watches. Even had 1 watch that cost $25 million alone. Then a guy was interviewing Manny Pacquiao and asked him if he had something flashy like that. He said no. All his money went to taking care of other people.
So even someone like Manny who has made millions is still being held back after all his hard work. If you think your Pinay is ever going to stop needing your remittances then you better think again.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2273516]Exactly. The difference in our cultures. We teach our kids to get educated and be able to take care of themselves. They teach their kids to grow up and take care of them. IMHO it is pretty much a dead end culture.[/QUOTE]Another big difference is that in the west kids are a huge financial and time burden. In rural Asia, a 4 year old kid can help in the rice field or at sari sari and there is always an extended family to ease the workload of raising the kid.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2273516]So funny I was watching a video yesterday and Floyd Mayweather showed his multimillion dollar collection of 41 watches. Even had 1 watch that cost $25 million alone. Then a guy was interviewing Manny Pacquiao and asked him if he had something flashy like that. He said no. All his money went to taking care of other people.
So even someone like Manny who has made millions is still being held back after all his hard work. If you think your Pinay is ever going to stop needing your remittances then you better think again.[/QUOTE]Think Manny's wife has all the flashy things and I thought he had a Ferrari in the USA but maybe wrong. He does help others but he also keeps some for himself and his wife's expensive tastes.
From the Phllstar.
[URL]https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/01/14/1884910/us-navy-exec-axed-paid-sex-philippines[/URL]
The guy was walking around with girls from AC and had 10 come to his room the greedy boy. But as he was in charge of a US ship etc he now is no longer in charge for enjoying himself with nice pinays. And yet they voted for Trump who like to grab pussy and allegedly had lots of fun with Stormy and others.
Funny old world (well at least in the USA) LOL.
Maybe it has been around for a while already but it seems you can fly now between Clark, Manila and Puerto Galera by seaplane.
[URL]http://www.clark-airport.com[/URL] > look for the ad 'air taxi service'.
[URL]http://www.clark-airport.com/air-taxi-request.htm[/URL]
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2273559]Maybe it has been around for a while already but it seems you can fly now between Clark, Manila and Puerto Galera by seaplane.
[URL]http://www.clark-airport.com[/URL] > look for the ad 'air taxi service'.
[URL]http://www.clark-airport.com/air-taxi-request.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]Juan Air have operated the flights for years.
The PG arrival is actually in a little bay about a 5 minute trike ride away from Sabang.
The Sabang to Clark / Subic may be via Manila depending on the day.
A great service and prices compare well with a charter van / bangka a if you are travelling solo. Obviously it's much faster.
[QUOTE=DiverForx;2273507]I'm a boring 40 yr. Old guy, with a boring job, heading to Cebu for 3-days (part of a work trip after). I'm looking for something I will remember forever (hot, freaky and frequent). I know. Already have my expectations to high. Especially after reading so many threads on Cebu being not the best place for quick mongering. I've been on the online sites (E. G. Filipina-cupid), but seems like a ton of work and geared toward longer stays. So, here's the challenge: arrive Friday and leave Monday, staying at Radisson. What would you do? Do I just focus on the bars (and eat the barfines? Do I buy good shoes for walking and pray for hot, unicorn freelancers? I just joined to seek advice from the experts, but happy to share my experience when done (success or fail). Thanks for any guidance on my miracle journey.[/QUOTE]There is only one solution and his name is Wicked Roger. 😎.
Pay $20 for a subscription and PM him.
Morning boss,
If your in Cebu for a few days why don't you join Filipino cupid or pina love (that's a free site).
I,m sure you will find some action with the girls there, arrange a few meet ups over the weekend and if you get some some no shows hit the bars, is it mango avenue?? From memory.
Cebu isn't a big city compared to Manila so the traffic won't be so busy,.
Cheers and best of luck,.
Lwd.
[QUOTE=DiverForx;2273507]I'm a boring 40 yr. Old guy, with a boring job, heading to Cebu for 3-days (part of a work trip after). I'm looking for something I will remember forever (hot, freaky and frequent). I know. Already have my expectations to high. Especially after reading so many threads on Cebu being not the best place for quick mongering. I've been on the online sites (E. G. Filipina-cupid), but seems like a ton of work and geared toward longer stays. So, here's the challenge: arrive Friday and leave Monday, staying at Radisson. What would you do? Do I just focus on the bars (and eat the barfines? Do I buy good shoes for walking and pray for hot, unicorn freelancers? I just joined to seek advice from the experts, but happy to share my experience when done (success or fail). Thanks for any guidance on my miracle journey.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2273440]So a couple of years ago a buddy of mine made some rant videos. He lived in the Dominican Republic for like 7 years then moved to Angeles. The videos were about never seriously date a Dominican. Only fuck them because they are all hookers. The next week he turns around and marries a chick that was working at a bar opposite Kokomos. This left everyone confused after seeing the videos. Well the shit finally fell apart. In a facebook group he posted pictures of how she had gone upside his head with an ugly stick.[/QUOTE]At least he is sharing his story so the next monger knows to run and not walk away when a bar girl mentions love and / or marriage. LOL! Sadly, it took a piece of coco lumber up the side of the head for him to achieve enlightenment.
Trying to tame a wild alley cat and turn it into a domesticated house cat is always a very bad idea. Feral pussy is just not going to put up with attempts to put her on lock down, especially when she goes into heat and other toms come calling. LOL!
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2273548]From the Phllstar.
[URL]https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/01/14/1884910/us-navy-exec-axed-paid-sex-philippines[/URL]
The guy was walking around with girls from AC and had 10 come to his room the greedy boy. But as he was in charge of a US ship etc he now is no longer in charge for enjoying himself with nice pinays. And yet they voted for Trump who like to grab pussy and allegedly had lots of fun with Stormy and others.
Funny old world (well at least in the USA) LOL.[/QUOTE]I believe the real crime was that he took 9 girls off the market from his crew. Terrible leadership.
[QUOTE=DiverForx;2273507]I'm a boring 40 yr. Old guy, with a boring job, heading to Cebu for 3-days (part of a work trip after). I'm looking for something I will remember forever (hot, freaky and frequent). I know. Already have my expectations to high. Especially after reading so many threads on Cebu being not the best place for quick mongering. I've been on the online sites (E. G. Filipina-cupid), but seems like a ton of work and geared toward longer stays. So, here's the challenge: arrive Friday and leave Monday, staying at Radisson. What would you do? Do I just focus on the bars (and eat the barfines? Do I buy good shoes for walking and pray for hot, unicorn freelancers? I just joined to seek advice from the experts, but happy to share my experience when done (success or fail). Thanks for any guidance on my miracle journey.[/QUOTE]Diving for cebuana muff shouldn't be that hard. You got 3 days to find it.
[QUOTE=DiverForx;2273507]I'm a boring 40 yr. Old guy, with a boring job, heading to Cebu for 3-days (part of a work trip after). I'm looking for something I will remember forever (hot, freaky and frequent). I know. Already have my expectations to high. Especially after reading so many threads on Cebu being not the best place for quick mongering. I've been on the online sites (E. G. Filipina-cupid), but seems like a ton of work and geared toward longer stays. So, here's the challenge: arrive Friday and leave Monday, staying at Radisson. What would you do? Do I just focus on the bars (and eat the barfines? Do I buy good shoes for walking and pray for hot, unicorn freelancers? I just joined to seek advice from the experts, but happy to share my experience when done (success or fail). Thanks for any guidance on my miracle journey.[/QUOTE]Mate, do you have a smart phone? Do you have WiFi? If yes to both, from connection to panties down will be 30 minutes. Time it if you don't believe me.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2273929]I believe the real crime was that he took 9 girls off the market from his crew. Terrible leadership.[/QUOTE]I'm a mariner! Love this post, LOL!
[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2274122]I'm a mariner! Love this post, LOL![/QUOTE]Perhaps he was gathering the other 9 for his crew??
A good leader takes care of his troops. (or sailors in this case).
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2273929]I believe the real crime was that he took 9 girls off the market from his crew. Terrible leadership.[/QUOTE]I can understand the disciplinary action.
He brought disrepute upon the US Military Services. Sleazy degenerate.
It's not as if every major mongering destination in the world was created to serve the needs of furloughed servicemen. 😉.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2274286]Perhaps he was gathering the other 9 for his crew??
A good leader takes care of his troops. (or sailors in this case).[/QUOTE]If he had done that then the 9 plus others would have covered his ass!
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2274026]Mate, do you have a smart phone? Do you have WiFi? If yes to both, from connection to panties down will be 30 minutes. Time it if you don't believe me.[/QUOTE]Is there a preferred app for this (tinder?) Or am I doing pre-work on FL or PL? I've read other threads and the pre-work seems a little much. Hoping to avoid, but will do what's necessary.
[QUOTE=DiverForx;2274298]Or am I doing pre-work on FL or PL? I've read other threads and the pre-work seems a little much.[/QUOTE]Option 1: About a month out, bulk message all suitable candidates and reply to all messages you receive. You'll get between 100 and 200 replies. Send follow up Viber and WhatsApps every couple of days so that you remain fresh in their minds. Easiest if you save all names and details to a spreadsheet to keep everything straight. Continue until you depart. Be sure to remember names and significant events in their lives so you can show you care. Arrive in country to find 90% are suddenly unavailable. The other 10% will want to bring their mom to the first meeting.
Option 2: Arrive. "Hi. I'm staying near Ayala. Would you like to meet?" She comes over. You fuck her.
Your choice. These are not exaggerations.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2273578]There is only one solution and his name is Wicked Roger. 😎.
Pay $20 for a subscription and PM him.[/QUOTE]Will take some time, but will do. Appreciate the advice (hopefully soon from Wicked Roger too).
[QUOTE=Goferring;2274355]Option 1: About a month out, bulk message all suitable candidates and reply to all messages you receive. You'll get between 100 and 200 replies. Send follow up Viber and WhatsApps every couple of days so that you remain fresh in their minds. Easiest if you save all names and details to a spreadsheet to keep everything straight. Continue until you depart. Be sure to remember names and significant events in their lives so you can show you care. Arrive in country to find 90% are suddenly unavailable. The other 10% will want to bring their mom to the first meeting.[/QUOTE]That is a lot of shit to go through. From now on, if I meet a chick too early I just say I will contact you when I get there. Fuck sending mundane messages back and forth everyday. I save every chick in my phone with the age and city code, so when I get to a city I just punch that city code into the Whatsapp search bar and send a message to every chick saying what are you doing if I am not sure who it is.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2274516]From now on, if I meet a chick too early I just say I will contact you when I get there. Fuck sending mundane messages back and forth everyday.[/QUOTE]For shame. Valentine's Day is soon on us and you probably have not stocked in flowers and chocolates. You cad!
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2273548]From the Phllstar.
[URL]https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/01/14/1884910/us-navy-exec-axed-paid-sex-philippines[/URL]
The guy was walking around with girls from AC and had 10 come to his room the greedy boy. But as he was in charge of a US ship etc he now is no longer in charge for enjoying himself with nice pinays. And yet they voted for Trump who like to grab pussy and allegedly had lots of fun with Stormy and others.
Funny old world (well at least in the USA) LOL.[/QUOTE]As a former air force officer I can assure you that G. I. means Government Issue E. G, owned. Poor bastard. I would have given him the Meritorious Service Medal instead. As for Trump and Stormy that is no allegation and he admits it. Cheers, mate.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2274516]That is a lot of shit to go through.[/QUOTE]Agreed but people still do it, paranoid that they need to start early
See option 2 - far easier and actually gives better results.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2274516]I save every chick in my phone with the age and city code, so when I get to a city I just punch that city code into the Whatsapp search bar and send a message to every chick saying what are you doing if I am not sure who it is.[/QUOTE]When you send a broadcast message in WA or Viber can the girls see the CC'ed names or do you have to copy paste individual chats?
[QUOTE=Goferring;2274589]When you send a broadcast message in WA or Viber can the girls see the CC'ed names or do you have to copy paste individual chats?[/QUOTE]No idea. I send individually. I don't want to fuck up.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2274355]
Option 2: Arrive. "Hi. I'm staying near Ayala. Would you like to meet?" She comes over. You fuck her.
.[/QUOTE]Has anyone ever had a girl come over thinking it was just a date and didn't get to fuck her? Take her out to eat, grab a drink and then she refuses to come back to your room.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2274589]When you send a broadcast message in WA or Viber can the girls see the CC'ed names or do you have to copy paste individual chats?[/QUOTE]Not in WhatsApp as I have done this before and still do and no one else knows who the same message goes to.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2274649]Not in WhatsApp as I have done this before and still do and no one else knows who the same message goes to.[/QUOTE]But do they know it is a same message? Like when some of my friends send me things it says forwarded.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2274613]Has anyone ever had a girl come over thinking it was just a date and didn't get to fuck her? Take her out to eat, grab a drink and then she refuses to come back to your room.[/QUOTE]Sure. I'd go on 2 or 3 platonic first dates per trip.
It's very rarely a surprise though. In the lead up chat these girls are pretty up front. If she says she's not meeting you in your hotel or even that she doesn't play around on the first date then you know what you are in for.
I've got no issue with this as my trips are usually pretty long so a peppering of dates with girls that are good company is actually refreshing. On a couple of occasions I've actually found out that there is no chemistry and not wanted to progress to sex.
I've written before that, opposite to home, sex is so available in Asia that it doesn't have to be the aim of every meeting. For me at least. Of course, I'm struggling to remember a second date where she didn't put a lot of effort into saying thanks for being the perfect gentleman that I am. 😉.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2274697]But do they know it is a same message? Like when some of my friends send me things it says forwarded.[/QUOTE]If a picture yes as I get friends sending me videos / photos etc and is the same as your screen shot. But a message not so. IF there are concerns you can always copy it then paste it multiple times. Same difference LOL.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2270329]It worked!! 😳.
"I don't know what you're talking about but if you are so concerned grab the kids and come up here. I'll book a nice place and we can have a family holiday for the last week. ".
Might have to slow down a bit to make sure there are a couple of shots left in the chamber when she arrives but it's a small price to pay.
Talk about lucky beating skillful. That's was close. 😅.[/QUOTE]I did take it easy for the last few days in Manila so that I wasn't shattered when I returned.
I've now left PH and having a happy family holiday at a midway tourist area that I know my family enjoy.
To answer the PMs about what happened: there was no Bobbitt-esque reception. The matter hasnt been discussed except for a coupe of comments supporting my plausible denial story and the lack of security with Air BnBs. I'd be kidding myself if I thought that what happened was not understood and been forgiven and forgotten but it hasn't been a deal breaker worth breaking up the family.
My intention is not to bring it up and let it pass. For my next trip, the weather will be too bad to scuba in the Philippines but there will be some nice options in Indonesia. I'll be back to PH, just after a politically acceptable time.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2274613]Has anyone ever had a girl come over thinking it was just a date and didn't get to fuck her? Take her out to eat, grab a drink and then she refuses to come back to your room.[/QUOTE]In Asia. No.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2274613]Has anyone ever had a girl come over thinking it was just a date and didn't get to fuck her? Take her out to eat, grab a drink and then she refuses to come back to your room.[/QUOTE]I have had a couple dates where I refused to invite her back but never one where she was unwilling.
I would like to try something different from the usual vacation in Angeles and Subic and visit someplace with a clean beach and good food. So my question is:
1. Where can I find someplace with a nice beach and a resort-like atmosphere?
2. Is there local talent or do I need to make a pit stop and bring someone?
I'm' thinking if a 3-4 day excursion, than back to Angeles for the usual fun and games.
Thanks!!
[QUOTE=Mahaba;2276846]1. Where can I find someplace with a nice beach and a resort-like atmosphere?[/QUOTE]A bunch of resorts on eastern Mactan island (the small island where the Int'l Cebu airport is, just across the bridge from Cebu); Tambuli Resort and Maribago Resort are some of those that I remember there. On Google Maps, enter "Resorts on Mactan Island". Bohol beach resorts (the resorts are, like Cebu, across the bridge from Bohol on tiny Panglao Island); Alona Resort (or Alona Kew), Pearl Resort, Bougainvilla Resort, Bohol Beach Club, Calypso Resort. Try White Beach (Puerto Galera). El Nido, Palawan. Cumigan Island (off northern Mindanao, near Gingoog). Siargao Island (ends of the earth here, you catch a ferry from Surigao City, northeast Mindanao); Eddies Beach Resort, Cherinicole Resort, La Luna Island Resort. And Boracay.
[QUOTE=Mahaba;2276846]2. Is there local talent or do I need to make a pit stop and bring someone?[/QUOTE]Except for Puerto Galera, bring someone. Or, make Westy happy and bring: Someone (s).
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2276854]A bunch of resorts on eastern Mactan island (the small island where the Int'l Cebu airport is, just across the bridge from Cebu); Tambuli Resort and Maribago Resort are some of those that I remember there. On Google Maps, enter "Resorts on Mactan Island". Bohol beach resorts (the resorts are, like Cebu, across the bridge from Bohol on tiny Panglao Island); Alona Resort (or Alona Kew), Pearl Resort, Bougainvilla Resort, Bohol Beach Club, Calypso Resort. Try White Beach (Puerto Galera). El Nido, Palawan. Cumigan Island (off northern Mindanao, near Gingoog). Siargao Island (ends of the earth here, you catch a ferry from Surigao City, northeast Mindanao); Eddies Beach Resort, Cherinicole Resort, La Luna Island Resort. And Boracay.
Except for Puerto Galera, bring someone. Or, make Westy happy and bring: Someone (s).[/QUOTE]I enjoyed myself at Crimson Resort on Mactan Island a few years back. Note that Cebu's airport is on Mactan Island and some resorts offer transportation. My friend stayed in the Shangri La resort last month and the pics looked great. You can try your luck finding a girl in Cebu City (which does take awhile to get to from the resorts on Mactan) but probably best if you bring your own as it could be time-intensive and you have this nice resort awaiting you.
Hi friends and great gurus,
Looking forward to going in February to: Manila for 3 day visit. Negros for work and Sipalay for 3 day diving.
Victor.
[QUOTE=VictorHugo99;2277190]Hi friends and great gurus,
Looking forward to going in February to: Manila for 3 day visit. Negros for work and Sipalay for 3 day diving.
Victor.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you'll be spending more time in taxis and the dreaded Manila airports than anywhere else. Good luck.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2276854]A bunch of resorts on eastern Mactan island (the small island where the Int'l Cebu airport is, just across the bridge from Cebu); Tambuli Resort and Maribago Resort are some of those that I remember there. On Google Maps, enter "Resorts on Mactan Island". Bohol beach resorts (the resorts are, like Cebu, across the bridge from Bohol on tiny Panglao Island); Alona Resort (or Alona Kew), Pearl Resort, Bougainvilla Resort, Bohol Beach Club, Calypso Resort. Try White Beach (Puerto Galera). El Nido, Palawan. Cumigan Island (off northern Mindanao, near Gingoog). Siargao Island (ends of the earth here, you catch a ferry from Surigao City, northeast Mindanao); Eddies Beach Resort, Cherinicole Resort, La Luna Island Resort. And Boracay.
Except for Puerto Galera, bring someone. Or, make Westy happy and bring: Someone (s).[/QUOTE]Thanks to all for the advice on nice places to stay near the beach. Once I pick one and visit I'll be sure to add a trip report.
[QUOTE=RickRock;2277261]Sounds like you'll be spending more time in taxis and the dreaded Manila airports than anywhere else. Good luck.[/QUOTE]That depends a lot on where he's staying and the places he wants to visit, doesn't it? If he stays in Makati around Greenbelt or Burgos for example then he will be fine.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2277397]That depends a lot on where he's staying and the places he wants to visit, doesn't it? If he stays in Makati around Greenbelt or Burgos for example then he will be fine.[/QUOTE]Does it matter? He can only spend so many minutes inside the V!
Thanks RR,
Hope to find out if anyone has good contacts in Sipalay and Manilla.
Have started working on DIA contacts.
After following the forum for some time. I understand that it is good to try, though not a guaranteed project =(.
Appreciate all advice, please PM numbers if available.
Much obliged, Vic.
[QUOTE=RickRock;2277261]Sounds like you'll be spending more time in taxis and the dreaded Manila airports than anywhere else. Good luck.[/QUOTE]
Hi Mogwai,
I have found a hotel at 100 m from LA Cafe.
But I hope to do diving during the day in Sipalay (south Negros), then trying the bar at night. I hope.
Will be getting the fake Viagra to assist my little brother just in case the diving is too exhausting.
Vic.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2277397]That depends a lot on where he's staying and the places he wants to visit, doesn't it? If he stays in Makati around Greenbelt or Burgos for example then he will be fine.[/QUOTE]Appreciate any numbers or mails by PM. Thanks.
Dear masters and gurus,
I just found out that Sipalay (near Dumagette) is pretty dead for choice of girls.
Toying with idea of inviting PL and DIA contacts to go with me.
My following of forum advice gives me the impression that bringing a girl to a beach dive site could be a terrible idea.
Any advice from Monger divers with experience to such situations?
Much obliged,
Vic.
Thanks to this forum, I was able to use the seaplane to and from Manila. What a time saver and a pleasant way to travel! Manila to Puerto Galera via AirTrav, 7000 php. Puerto Galera to Manila via Air Juan 6000 php. Reserved on their websites, using credit card, was seamless. Flying back to Manila, we could see the SLEX traffic below heading north, absolutely jam packed. Couldn't help thinking: suckers! The AirTrav plane was newer but the service was the same on both airlines, 10/10 rating for both.
Rented a bike in Sabang for 300 php and had a blast exploring. Rate is good from 8 am-6 m. This is a definite must-do. Google the sites to see and away you go.
Took a FL from Big Apple, 1000 php. She was 35, a bit crazy but got the job done. The next night she wanted to see me again and stood outside my hotel room at the Big Apple banging on the door, begging to come in. Nuts. Never barfined anybody, but visited almost all of the bars. The general quality of the girls here is below AC or Burgos, but hot ones are around. Not very many hot FL's. If you want a hot girl, I suggest to go early to the bars to beat all the Koreans and Chinese to the punch. They are here by the 100's.
Sabang generally is a s* hole, the beach is disgusting. I could see and smell raw sewage draining out of pipes that were going down to the direction of the beach, draining out onto the sand. They are working on a new sewage treatment system and plant to fix it all.
Big Apple is a great place to stay. The room (at the front) are pretty tired and the mattress is a 3" thick piece of foam on wood slats. Who cares. Having the bar there is great and the food is decent. The Pacquaio fight was fun to watch in the packed bar.
Had to pay a guy 50 php upon arrival at the pier in Sabang. In hindsight, I think it was a scam. It was apparently for an Environmental Fee and he gave me a little colored piece of paper for proof. Can anybody confirm this?
[QUOTE=Free2;2277746]
Had to pay a guy 50 php upon arrival at the pier in Sabang. In hindsight, I think it was a scam. It was apparently for an Environmental Fee and he gave me a little colored piece of paper for proof. Can anybody confirm this?[/QUOTE]Did the seaplane arrive and depart directly from Sabang? That's a big improvement from the bay about 10 minutes away and avoids the trike mafia and general fuck around.
If you are still there, a lot of the waitresses in the restaurants in the walkway between the Big Apple and the main road freelance after hours. Some were quite pretty.
The fee is payable at both Sabang and Battangas. I think it's only for non residents.
[QUOTE=VictorHugo99;2277682]Dear masters and gurus,
I just found out that Sipalay (near Dumagette) is pretty dead for choice of girls.
Toying with idea of inviting PL and DIA contacts to go with me.
My following of forum advice gives me the impression that bringing a girl to a beach dive site could be a terrible idea.
Any advice from Monger divers with experience to such situations?
Much obliged,
Vic.[/QUOTE]There are girls online in Duma city and region. Fil Cupid is better than Pina Love as you can drill down to city level not just province. Girls will happily bus in for an hour or two to be with you for a couple of days.
If you want to import from further afield e. G. Cebu or manila, factor in breaks or a few days each per girl. I took a great girl for 2 weeks and by the end of it we were ready to kill each other. Far too long. See my reports on holidaying with a Hooker for details and a list of things to watch out for.
Enjoy, G.
[QUOTE=VictorHugo99;2277415]Will be getting the fake Viagra to assist my little brother just in case the diving is too exhausting.[/QUOTE]Nitrox, if it's available, is a huge benefit in reducing diver fatigue. Especially if diving repeatedly for days.
Thanks Master G.
You are one of my favorites on forum, with good wise insights.
I will see with FC about getting to bring someone to Sipalay.
Since I am there only for 3 days. I guess we can stay friendly.
Thanks again,
Vic.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2277809]There are girls online in Duma city and region. Fil Cupid is better than Pina Love as you can drill down to city level not just province. Girls will happily bus in for an hour or two to be with you for a couple of days.
If you want to import from further afield e. G. Cebu or manila, factor in breaks or a few days each per girl. I took a great girl for 2 weeks and by the end of it we were ready to kill each other. Far too long. See my reports on holidaying with a Hooker for details and a list of things to watch out for.
Enjoy, G.[/QUOTE]
I am feeling, not well, as they say here so I planned to call my USA Doctor tonight for a possible prescription. Post nasal drip and coughing like crazy for two weeks now. So I went to mercury drug store and asked how they wanted script delivered in case I got one. Surprised me to learn there is a law here that pharmacies can fill scripts only written by Philippine doctors. My doc at home did give me a travel pack of a variety bag of prescription drugs just in case but this illness is something I am not loaded for. BTW I use this doctor because he is great and I pay him to be on retainer for me. I don't have any idea where to turn to find a competent doctor in Cebu. Any suggestions, I am not interested in being given a bunch of tests to pad someones pocket.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2277897]I am feeling, not well, as they say here so I planned to call my USA Doctor tonight for a possible prescription. Post nasal drip and coughing like crazy for two weeks now. So I went to mercury drug store and asked how they wanted script delivered in case I got one. Surprised me to learn there is a law here that pharmacies can fill scripts only written by Philippine doctors. My doc at home did give me a travel pack of a variety bag of prescription drugs just in case but this illness is something I am not loaded for. BTW I use this doctor because he is great and I pay him to be on retainer for me. I don't have any idea where to turn to find a competent doctor in Cebu. Any suggestions, I am not interested in being given a bunch of tests to pad someones pocket.[/QUOTE]You can go the the clinic in Basement level 2 located in Ayala Mall.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2277897]I am feeling, not well, as they say here so I planned to call my USA Doctor tonight for a possible prescription. Post nasal drip and coughing like crazy for two weeks now. So I went to mercury drug store and asked how they wanted script delivered in case I got one. Surprised me to learn there is a law here that pharmacies can fill scripts only written by Philippine doctors. My doc at home did give me a travel pack of a variety bag of prescription drugs just in case but this illness is something I am not loaded for. BTW I use this doctor because he is great and I pay him to be on retainer for me. I don't have any idea where to turn to find a competent doctor in Cebu. Any suggestions, I am not interested in being given a bunch of tests to pad someones pocket.[/QUOTE]Since when? I used to go to the pharmacy in Manila and get whatever pills I wanted by just asking for them. Did they tighten up regulations?
Surely you can find a smaller pharmacy that will still help you out. Money talks in that corrupt hell hole.
In Cambodia, Thailand, Vietnam, Laos, etc. , you can still rock up and get any pill you want over the counter with no prescription at all.
Probably you can just ride it out anyway. Most colds and all flu infections are viral, which means antibiotics won't help with them at all. No way to know if it is bacterial unless you do a test. That can't be done over the phone. Most doctors where you are will be too lazy or unequipped to do it, but they might write a script for antibiotics anyway. Most likely scenario you just need lots of rest, drinks lots of fluids, take over the counter pain pills if it gets unbearable. That's assuming it's a cold or flu.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2277760]Did the seaplane arrive and depart directly from Sabang? That's a big improvement from the bay about 10 minutes away and avoids the trike mafia and general fuck around.[/QUOTE]No, neither did. AirTrav arrives on an island nearby and I just asked the security guard to get me a boat directly to Sabang. It showed up 5 minutes later. The trip took 15 minutes maybe to Sabang.
Departing via Air Juan, I had to get a tricycle to the Sandbar, it took maybe 15-20 minutes to get there.
[QUOTE=RickRock;2277921]Since when? I used to go to the pharmacy in Manila and get whatever pills I wanted by just asking for them. Did they tighten up regulations?
.....[/QUOTE]They did tighten on antibiotics a while ago, not tio say that you still cannot get them OTC but sometimes you have to try a couple places.
Calais also sometimes needs to try a couple pf places to get. It is as much a matter of the attitude behind the person at the counter as anything. I have been getting it one place, thyen could not once but was able the next time.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2277910]You can go the the clinic in Basement level 2 located in Ayala Mall.[/QUOTE]By recommendation of DG I went to the care clinic in ayala mall this morning. The doc I saw was great. She is an internal medicine MD and pulminary specialist. She wrote three scripts for me, cost for the visit was 700 php scripts were another 1350 which I was very happy to pay, This was as a walk in and waited about 40 minutes to see Doctor.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2278647]
I am chatting with a girl who needs 25000 pesos she says for a job in Saudi Arabia. If anybody is interested pm me. I can just give you her name in DIA and after that you can chat with her and see. She said she is already offered a job. This conversation happened because I told her I will be in Manila in April and she said she maybe in Saudi by then. I was not going to pay the whole amount but part of it for fun which she agreed. You negotiate on your own.[/QUOTE]This is off-topic for Manila Hotels so moving to "General info".
You need to be very careful about the fees these girls are discussing.
The POEA is very strict about recruitment agencies ripping off OFWs and women who try to short-cut the system are usually the ones who are caught out.
There are placement fees and processing fees.
The placement fee must not exceed one month of the proposed pay for the OFW.
The processing fees can run from 8000 - 12 000 php (medicals, paper work etc etc) but an acquaintance of mine paid only 3000 php for work in SIN just last week.
If you plan to "donate" cash to a woman for work abroad, ask questions about the break-up of the amount she says she needs. You might end up helping her avoid being ripped off. Filipinos are experts at ripping money off their countrymen.
Google "placement fees for OFWs" or "processing fees for OFWs" and follow the FAQs. Many of these women need help to navigate the sharks who prey on the desperate.
Example: https://www.ofwguru.com/guides/how-much-does-it-cost-to-become-an-ofw/
Dear Red Kilt,
Bravo for all these pertinent info.
It will be great to help them to at least not fall into a hole!
Thanks, Vic.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2278695]This is off-topic for Manila Hotels so moving to "General info".
You need to be very careful about the fees these girls are discussing.
The POEA is very strict about recruitment agencies ripping off OFWs and women who try to short-cut the system are usually the ones who are caught out.
There are placement fees and processing fees.
The placement fee must not exceed one month of the proposed pay for the OFW.
The processing fees can run from 8000 - 12 000 php (medicals, paper work etc etc) but an acquaintance of mine paid only 3000 php for work in SIN just last week.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sammon;2278647]The way your first post was written it was assumed you are looking for a low level girlfriendly hotel to keep your girl from provinces and possible get another girl from Manila. Why else you want a girlfriendly hotel? Anywhere in the world if you book a room for two you and your girl can stay together except Saudi Arabia maybe (never went there). If you are just staying with one girl register her along with you and nobody will say anything. If she is coming to Manila and hoping to get a job in Dubai she needs to pay agency fee of roughly 25000 pesos. Maybe she is hoping you will help her. Her earned money possibly vanished.
I am chatting with a girl who needs 25000 pesos she says for a job in Saudi Arabia. If anybody is interested pm me. I can just give you her name in DIA and after that you can chat with her and see. She said she is already offered a job. This conversation happened because I told her I will be in Manila in April and she said she maybe in Saudi by then. I was not going to pay the whole amount but part of it for fun which she agreed. You negotiate on your own.[/QUOTE]RK advise is sound and I have helped people get the paperwork etc and is not 25 k Sammon. There are fees for requirements (which I never understand) and the government asks they pay up for some seminar etc POEA I think (I helped a lady recently and was less than 1000 pesos). So if 25000 either she is ripping you off or is being taken advantage of (not surprisingly the pinoys in Saudi screw over their own very happily).
Try Saudi I love the place and easy to get a girl into the room. Trust me I know as had a few pinay nurses in my time who e more scared of going back to my compound then a nice hotel.
Got to love Grab transportation service. Reliable transportation at a predictable price, and they deliver food and girls right to your hotel. It brings a whole new context to "going to Grab me some pussy".
Ahh, I slay myself sometimes!
Do not just fuck, Educate.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2279596]Do not just fuck, Educate.[/QUOTE]Most mongers are on a mission to inseminate and evacuate. LOL!
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2279042]RK advise is sound and I have helped people get the paperwork etc and is not 25 k Sammon. There are fees for requirements (which I never understand) and the government asks they pay up for some seminar etc POEA I think (I helped a lady recently and was less than 1000 pesos). So if 25000 either she is ripping you off or is being taken advantage of (not surprisingly the pinoys in Saudi screw over their own very happily).
Try Saudi I love the place and easy to get a girl into the room. Trust me I know as had a few pinay nurses in my time who e more scared of going back to my compound then a nice hotel.[/QUOTE]25000 I think is the total price. Including passport, visa fees, agency fee, certain government fees etc. Couple of years ago I went with my GF at that time to one of those agencies on Mabini street. She had a passport and certificates for a nursing assistant job. She was interviewed right away and offered a job in Saudi Arabia. Pay was $500 a month and free accommodation and transport to work. And contract for two years and flight ticket round trip. Initially I told the girl to go in and talk herself and after she got the job I wanted the breakdown of 15000 pesos the agency wanted. They did write it down. Do not know where it is now. I was ready to give 15000 and the girl wanted to ask her family first before committing. She went back to the province. Her family dissuaded her and she backed off. I am still in touch with her but not seeing her. In between she met a foreigner and has a baby with no child support. Guy vanished into thin air. Now she regrets having not taken the job.
I would not go to Saudi Arabia for mongering trip. Dubai is better although I do not like the chip on their shoulders. I like down to earth girls.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2279602]25000 I think is the total price. Including passport, visa fees, agency fee, certain government fees etc. Couple of years ago I went with my GF at that time to one of those agencies on Mabini street. .[/QUOTE]If you need more information best PM as 25 k is too high and agency is taking a huge cut. Passport. She has to do herself and is 2000 pesos or thereabouts (the DFA web site did have the prices and times) but getting an appointment has been tricky in some places.
Also you did not say what job and hopefully not a DH job as loads issues with pinay DH and Arab families.
Best PM and we take it offline if you like.
Dear Sir WR.
Thanks for all the expert advice.
Any chance to advice on approximate payment schemes plan for bringing FL to beaches for 3 days.
What is the normal Do's and don't's. As well.
If you prefer, in PM mode.
Thanks in avance, Vic.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2279716]If you need more information best PM as 25 k is too high and agency is taking a huge cut. Passport. She has to do herself and is 2000 pesos or thereabouts (the DFA web site did have the prices and times) but getting an appointment has been tricky in some places.
Also you did not say what job and hopefully not a DH job as loads issues with pinay DH and Arab families.
Best PM and we take it offline if you like.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2279716]
Also you did not say what job and hopefully not a DH job as loads issues with pinay DH and Arab families[/QUOTE]You mean the sleazy Arab's hands wander all over the Pinay's ass? There's always news articles in the Straights Times of Singaporean madams torturing Indonesian maids.
Dear mongers,
I have a 18 year old that I have verified by videocall, who is wanting to come meet me from San Carlos called CHAREMAE.
Anyone has had experience with this lady?
She is asking for 4500 P, then I bargained 1500 P, then 600 P to come meet in Bacolod.
It was an interesting chat.
I told her that I would just send 600 P, a one way trip according to her by bus, and would pay her a taxi fare to go back to San Carlos.
Any advice?
But nice cute girl on Viber. No pinay love account because "phone not enough space for app" she said BTW that she found me on pinay love. A lot of belong I guess.
Found the conversation just interesting.
Vic.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2280644]You mean the sleazy Arab's hands wander all over the Pinay's ass? There's always news articles in the Straights Times of Singaporean madams torturing Indonesian maids.[/QUOTE]Can be much worse. In Kuwait found one in freezer, in Saudi all sorts [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and then shared to family members, or no sleep (or very short hours), no days off, and the agency will cut the agreed salary by 50% (which is illegal but they no clue) and the agency has pinoys who screw them over. Lots more I have heard and seen. I have helped a few when asked as they have no mobile and through their friends they find ways to escape, some die in the trying as fall from balconies. All sorts and is why I tell all pinays never be a DH in the Middle East unless is western family (IE native western not Arab American).
[QUOTE=VictorHugo99;2280718]Dear mongers,
I have a 18 year old that I have verified by videocall, who is wanting to come meet me from San Carlos called CHAREMAE.
Anyone has had experience with this lady?
She is asking for 4500 P, then I bargained 1500 P, then 600 P to come meet in Bacolod.
It was an interesting chat.
I told her that I would just send 600 P, a one way trip according to her by bus, and would pay her a taxi fare to go back to San Carlos.
Any advice?
Vic.[/QUOTE]An airconditioned bus from San Carlos to Bacolod should not cost more than 100 -150 P.
A bus without airconditioning (which they often prefer) even less.
For comparison: an airconditioned bus from Manila (Makati) to Angeles is only about 150 P, and that is even a greater distance.
Furthermore I think 4500 P is quite a lot for a 'provincial' girl from Negros. That's for LT I suppose?
All in all it sounds like a scam to be honest. Or she's just trying to get the most out of an ignorant tourist (no offense).
[QUOTE=VictorHugo99;2280718]She is asking for 4500 P, then I bargained 1500 P, then 600 P to come meet in Bacolod.
It was an interesting chat.
I told her that I would just send 600 P, a one way trip according to her by bus, and would pay her a taxi fare to go back to San Carlos.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2281027]An airconditioned bus from San Carlos to Bacolod should not cost more than 100 -150 P.
A bus without airconditioning (which they often prefer) even less.
For comparison: an airconditioned bus from Manila (Makati) to Angeles is only about 150 P, and that is even a greater distance.
Furthermore I think 4500 P is quite a lot for a 'provincial' girl from Negros. That's for LT I suppose?
All in all it sounds like a scam to be honest. Or she's just trying to get the most out of an ignorant tourist (no offense).[/QUOTE]I am with Mog's. The amounts of money she is asking for are off-based, too much. OTOH to make the girl's case, she is traveling away from the fam to meet someone new; there are difficulties and dangers involved for the girl. To go further than Mog's, I would assume the girl is staying with you for several days / nights at that price. These kinds of send-money-bring-girl-first-time often go south, where after the money is sent, the girl makes every excuse at the last minute not to get on the bus.
Consider to proceed as such: Tell her you will send her 500 for travel (that's enough for aircon bus + foods if needed while she is on the road; the bus often stops here and there for potty break + food). You will again pay her for return travel when her time is completed. You will also give her the remainder of whatever money previously agreed upon at the morning of her departure (say, 5 k or 6 k, etc) .
VH, will PM you.
Thanks MOG,
I appreciate the you and frank advice.
No offense taken as we are always smarter learning from experiences of other masters.
Anyways, my boss just got sick, so I might have to do some rescheduling. It was just interesting to get cold calls from girls wanting to travel hundreds of kms just to meet me.
Vic.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2281027]An airconditioned bus from San Carlos to Bacolod should not cost more than 100 -150 P.
A bus without airconditioning (which they often prefer) even less.
For comparison: an airconditioned bus from Manila (Makati) to Angeles is only about 150 P, and that is even a greater distance.
Furthermore I think 4500 P is quite a lot for a 'provincial' girl from Negros. That's for LT I suppose?
All in all it sounds like a scam to be honest. Or she's just trying to get the most out of an ignorant tourist (no offense).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VictorHugo99;2280718]I have a 18 year old that I have verified.
Any advice? Vic.[/QUOTE]How lonely do you have to get to do this? Why do stories like this sound insane? And, why do guys keep doing it? Last January, in Naval, Biliran to take the Juan Air flight to Cebu, when it arrives and passengers coming into Biliran all leave except one guy who's just standing there, looking around, and trying to make calls on his phone. Initiating conversation, it comes out he's from Philadelphia, is there to see a girl he met online, and he's never been to the Philippines. And, he came all the way to Biliran, a province in the middle of nowhere, and at a time when a typhoon just took the bridges out (hence no van-van to Tacloban). Amazing. We gave him name of a hotel, and boarded with him still standing there.
My MO is to never, ever, send any amount of money whatsoever to anyone before I have met them. It has served me well. If they can't scrum up 500 php (as you say) to get to where I am then it is a no-go. If you do send it, you must plan on never seeing the money or the girl again. Then if it happens you won't be disappointed!
I have girls come to me by tricycle in Manila and I pay the driver when they arrive. From another island? Then I say they have to pay their way to where I am or it is a no-go, simple as that.
[QUOTE=Free2;2281168]If they can't scrum up 500 php (as you say) to get to where I am then it is a no-go. If you do send it, you must plan on never seeing the money or the girl again.[/QUOTE]I think it goes without saying that you shouldn't send any amount of money that will keep you up at night should the girl not show up. P500 is small and I suggested it as it won't keep VH up at night if he loses it. However I will disagree with province girls being able to scrum p500, that might be out of the question.
[QUOTE=Free2;2281168]I have girls come to me by tricycle in Manila and I pay the driver when they arrive. From another island? Then I say they have to pay their way to where I am or it is a no-go, simple as that. [/QUOTE]I am with you on the tryke. I give round-trip jeep fare (once I know where she's coming from, its easy to calculate), nothing more.
From another island? Never for a new girl. Girls must be broken in several times on their own island before I allow travel. Even then, I buy the ticket, don't send the traveling girl money to buy the transport. Many province girls won't stay at a hotel in their hometown with a foreigner for fear of the community finding out. I stay at a nearby town (Like VH is doing) and bus her over to me. I think VH has set himself up in a weak position by not bringing his own entertainment. One doesn't go to the province away from Luzon / Cebu just to meet a new cutie and bring her to a different city.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2281250]However I will disagree with province girls being able to scrum p500, that might be out of the question.[/QUOTE]500 peso loan from the Barangay captain, they can get that. Although it's supposed to be for emergencies, and might come with some questions, and a little interest.
Now that we have beat the hell out of 600 pesos. The price of a good meal plus 100 peso tip.
Why would a girl just take enough pesos for a one way ticket and possibly get stranded? 600 sounds fair for a round trip including meals and taxis.
If you can't afford to risk 600 pesos then don't do it.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2281261]Why would a girl just take enough pesos for a one way ticket and possibly get stranded? 600 sounds fair for a round trip including meals and taxis.[/QUOTE]Don't confuse your logic or psychology with the pinay's. The reality is that they do it routinely (bus / jeep + foods for travel from province to province). Many of my provincial regulars (just look at that PG) do it every time (and they were glad to do it the first time). Many girls express your skepticism at first, but almost all fold when I tell them its my way or the highway (all have asked for the entire amount up front. Travel money + her nightly gift).
Main reason she might take enough pesos for travel with the possibility of getting stranded? The opportunity to walk away with the agreed-upon overnight amount in the morning (1-4 weeks wages in the province) + return travel. In the logical mind of most of us, that might not sound appetizing if we were the girl. I have discovered over the years that my thinking is so oddly in opposition of how pinay think, that its better for me to ignore what I think and just keep going with what works (not what I think might work).
Dear G,
You are right to speak about the insanity which is triggered by little head, not big head.
Being a working trip, I was just doing "checking the ground contacts".
I agree with you that if it is too good to be true, it is.
I feel sad with the guy, I hope he manages to to find some action in Biliran. In spite of all. VIC.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2281146]How lonely do you have to get to do this? Why do stories like this sound insane? And, why do guys keep doing it? Last January, in Naval, Biliran to take the Juan Air flight to Cebu, when it arrives and passengers coming into Biliran all leave except one guy who's just standing there, looking around, and trying to make calls on his phone. Initiating conversation, it comes out he's from Philadelphia, is there to see a girl he met online, and he's never been to the Philippines. And, he came all the way to Biliran, a province in the middle of nowhere, and at a time when a typhoon just took the bridges out (hence no van-van to Tacloban). Amazing. We gave him name of a hotel, and boarded with him still standing there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Free2;2281168]My MO is to never, ever, send any amount of money whatsoever to anyone before I have met them. It has served me well. If they can't scrum up 500 php (as you say) to get to where I am then it is a no-go. If you do send it, you must plan on never seeing the money or the girl again. Then if it happens you won't be disappointed!
I have girls come to me by tricycle in Manila and I pay the driver when they arrive. From another island? Then I say they have to pay their way to where I am or it is a no-go, simple as that.[/QUOTE]Easier said than done. I have sent money all the time for travel from the provinces by bus and ferry. Some I have sent flight ticket and money for trip to airport plus incidentals like food, clothes. Except for one girl who stiffed me 500 pesos rest kept their word. It is true if meeting for the first time you need to write off money till she shows up. But if you really want to get in her pants you need to take chances. There is no myway or highway. Even if the girls are desperate spending money and meeting a stranger who maybe a dirt bag in not on their agenda.
Other side of the coin is these girls do not have seed money. This is the only reason they want to come And spend time with you. Not for love or bragging rights. Some nearby girls may have enough money for the trike which is cheap and will try hoping for a bigger payoff.
Have you ever wondered why first thing the girls asks is food? This is because they have not eaten since they started getting ready. Sometimes it takes whole day of Jeepney, bus, jeepney to get to your place. Food is first on their mind not sex.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2281329]Easier said than done. I have sent money all the time for travel from the provinces by bus and ferry. Some I have sent flight ticket and money for trip to airport plus incidentals like food, clothes. Except for one girl who stiffed me 500 pesos rest kept their word. It is true if meeting for the first time you need to write off money till she shows up. But if you really want to get in her pants you need to take chances. There is no myway or highway. Even if the girls are desperate spending money and meeting a stranger who maybe a dirt bag in not on their agenda.
Other side of the coin is these girls do not have seed money. This is the only reason they want to come And spend time with you. Not for love or bragging rights. Some nearby girls may have enough money for the trike which is cheap and will try hoping for a bigger payoff.
Have you ever wondered why first thing the girls asks is food? This is because they have not eaten since they started getting ready. Sometimes it takes whole day of Jeepney, bus, jeepney to get to your place. Food is first on their mind not sex.[/QUOTE]If I ever do a plane ticket I use the credit card so if they bail I can get the cost back. Some will borrow the fare from relative and neighbours but at times the monger is not there and they are stuck. And have to repay. Heard that a few times.
Much depends on trust and experience with the girl. Favs of mine outside the main cities I know won't do a runner. Newbies am careful with unless recommended by a friend. But don't send 50% with the promise of the rest when turn up as that has led to the monger not paying the fare. Again she is stuck as come cheapskate thinks he can save a few pesos (500-1000 usually).
Some will arrive and will eat first as need energy for the night ahead as they know we horny LOL.
But generally be careful as everyone says. However as 500 pesos is $10 and if you can't afford to lose that after paying maybe thousands to get there then you should not be in the Philippines as you are a cheapskate IMHO.
Am getting ads (see pics) just by visiting the ISG site (without clicking on anything). These show up in new browser windows. This is new. Anyone else?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2281513]Am getting ads (see pics) just by visiting the ISG site (without clicking on anything). These show up in new browser windows. This is new. Anyone else?[/QUOTE]Me2, I just restarted the machine and run the antiviurs, just to be sure.
[QUOTE=Member#1088;2281533]Me2, I just restarted the machine and run the antiviurs, just to be sure.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I had the same just now when starting ISG, I thought I had clicked somewhere, but no.
Confirmed : each time i enter in ISG, 1st page for login, just click in the ID field and get this images !
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2281513]Am getting ads (see pics) just by visiting the ISG site (without clicking on anything). These show up in new browser windows. This is new. Anyone else?[/QUOTE]I am not getting these annoying add pop ups. I use the Firefox browser with adblock plus attachment app.
The thing that annoys me is how each ISG posted photo now opens individually into its own window. Rather bothersome if you ask me especially when a post contains several photos of the same girl or different girls and I might want to toggle back and forth for comparison.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2281539]The thing that annoys me is how each ISG posted photo now opens individually into its own window. Rather bothersome if you ask me especially when a post contains several photos of the same girl or different girls and I might want to toggle back and forth for comparison.[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree on that! The previous interface for photos was MUCH better.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2281539]I am not getting these annoying add pop ups. I use the Firefox browser with adblock plus attachment app.[/QUOTE]I also use FF w / Adblock+ and this just started happening yesterday. The ad opens in a separate browser window everytime I visit ISG.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2281539]The thing that annoys me is how each ISG posted photo now opens individually into its own window. Rather bothersome if you ask me especially when a post contains several photos of the same girl or different girls and I might want to toggle back and forth for comparison. [/QUOTE]Ya, bugs me too.
I see it now. I tried using Chrome browser, same issue a separate window opens with the same ad. I closed the windows and tried again, to the same result. I realized that the ad only pops up when I click the mouse into the Username box to log in. I tried it twice like that. Same with FF again. It is set in the programming.
Jackson, pleaseeeeeeeeeee?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2281614]Jackson, pleaseeeeeeeeeee?[/QUOTE]I thought he sold it.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2281624]I thought he sold it.[/QUOTE]Whoever. . . Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2281513]Am getting ads (see pics) just by visiting the ISG site (without clicking on anything). These show up in new browser windows. This is new. Anyone else?[/QUOTE]I get them as well.
Cheers.
A158.
I get the same on an android phone.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2281513]Am getting ads (see pics) just by visiting the ISG site (without clicking on anything). These show up in new browser windows. This is new. Anyone else?[/QUOTE]
Nothing for me though. I use android.
Maybe only for Samsung?
Vic.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2281684]I get the same on an android phone.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2281513]Am getting ads (see pics) just by visiting the ISG site (without clicking on anything). These show up in new browser windows. This is new. Anyone else?[/QUOTE]I don't get the ads or the popups.
Google Chrome.
Win 10.
Adblock.
This made some interesting comparisons.
[URL]https://ph.news.yahoo.com/50-cheapest-countries-retire-090000578.html?fbclid=IwAR3Egb_AnlXQtn0D0HPh4H_rV1GajNDR-VIbPVRTDMSbcKKL-YP-KLGnaKs[/URL]
[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2281761]I don't get the ads or the popups.
Google Chrome.
Win 10.
Adblock.[/QUOTE]I have all of that. Two things:
1) Open ISG in fresh Chrome browser window (previously closed Chrome completely and re-opened), do nothing. Wait 45-ish seconds, and an ad pops up in a new browser window.
2) Open ISG in fresh Chrome browser window (previously closed Chrome completely and re-opened), then click into the Username box. Instantly an ad pops up in a new browser window.
Same happens with FF browser.
WC.
A lot of forum sites have ads until you log in.
I use "log me in automatically" and I don't get the ads, including here.
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2281884]A lot of forum sites have ads until you log in.
I use "log me in automatically" and I don't get the ads, including here.[/QUOTE]I don't get any ads or pop-ups of any sort (using google chrome).
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2281788]This made some interesting comparisons.
[URL]https://ph.news.yahoo.com/50-cheapest-countries-retire-090000578.html?fbclid=IwAR3Egb_AnlXQtn0D0HPh4H_rV1GajNDR-VIbPVRTDMSbcKKL-YP-KLGnaKs[/URL][/QUOTE]I didn't see Pussy Purchasing Power, a significant part of the monthly budget for most in SEA.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2281836]I have all of that. Two things:
1) Open ISG in fresh Chrome browser window (previously closed Chrome completely and re-opened), do nothing. Wait 45-ish seconds, and an ad pops up in a new browser window.
2) Open ISG in fresh Chrome browser window (previously closed Chrome completely and re-opened), then click into the Username box. Instantly an ad pops up in a new browser window.
Same happens with FF browser.
WC.[/QUOTE]Please run a spyware scan. Looks like infected with spywares.
[QUOTE=CodeName47;2281986]Please run a spyware scan. Looks like infected with spywares.[/QUOTE]CN, thanks the advice. I ran a Malaware Bytes scan yesterday which found nothing. I ran a minimal AV scan which found nothing; I should run a full scan.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2281990]CN, thanks the advice. I ran a Malaware Bytes scan yesterday which found nothing. I ran a minimal AV scan which found nothing; I should run a full scan.[/QUOTE]I ran Malwarebytes too, nothing found, then I ran ZHPCleaner (french tool) and it found 115 errors, but even after cleanup and restart, this popup is still there.
I think its something intentionally linked to the website, not a malware or virus.
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2282000]I ran Malwarebytes too, nothing found, then I ran ZHPCleaner (french tool) and it found 115 errors, but even after cleanup and restart, this popup is still there.
I think its something intentionally linked to the website, not a malware or virus.[/QUOTE]I get it as well. I am logged in automatically and I get a new window ad that opens up when I first click on a topic to read. Windows, Chrome, AdBlock Plus extension. I think it is a new "feature" of ISG.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2281788]This made some interesting comparisons.
[URL]https://ph.news.yahoo.com/50-cheapest-countries-retire-090000578.html?fbclid=IwAR3Egb_AnlXQtn0D0HPh4H_rV1GajNDR-VIbPVRTDMSbcKKL-YP-KLGnaKs[/URL].[/QUOTE]This whole thing is laughable! Spend your golden years in Pakistan, land that harbored Osama bin Laden and where you can "honor kill" women who have brought "shame" upon the family for a crime that a man committed against the woman? And Saudi Arabia is number 2, a land that cuts up people alive for disagreeing with the government (and home of the majority of the 9/11 terrorists)? I also take issue with their numbers (question that these are the 50 cheapest places to retire). So many of these studies and reports are utter nonsense that cannot be taken seriously. Spend your golden years in Pakistan? Please! Go for it!
[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2282010]I get it as well. I am logged in automatically and I get a new window ad that opens up when I first click on a topic to read. Windows, Chrome, AdBlock Plus extension. I think it is a new "feature" of ISG.[/QUOTE]I think also that the programmers have pushed this into the browser, in the same way the website programmer can control the HTML programming to either force the cursor into the Username box when opening any website that has a Username box, or the programmer can keep the cursor from showing up in that box (on the ISG website, the cursor does not show up in that box until I click into that box).
Upon visiting ISG this current time, my FF popped up with "Firefox has blocked a popup".
For those not having this problem, are you using Win 10 with either Chrome or FF? If not, this might be a Windows issue.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2282027]This whole thing is laughable! Spend your golden years in Pakistan, land that harbored Osama bin Laden and where you can "honor kill" women who have brought "shame" upon the family for a crime that a man committed against the woman? And Saudi Arabia is number 2, a land that cuts up people alive for disagreeing with the government (and home of the majority of the 9/11 terrorists)? I also take issue with their numbers (question that these are the 50 cheapest places to retire). So many of these studies and reports are utter nonsense that cannot be taken seriously. Spend your golden years in Pakistan? Please! Go for it![/QUOTE]I tend to agree. Use these Indexes as a guide but certainly not as a instruction.
Over the years I've received many Housing, Utility and Relocation allowances linked to similar industry generated Indices. Some have allowed for leases to fund two mansions while others have been barely enough to run a light bulb.
Use at your own risk and do your own homework based upon your own living conditions.
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2282000]I ran Malwarebytes too, nothing found, then I ran ZHPCleaner (french tool) and it found 115 errors, but even after cleanup and restart, this popup is still there.
I think its something intentionally linked to the website, not a malware or virus.[/QUOTE]I use Malwarebytes premium and when the new window opens it is a message from Malwarebytes that the site is BLOCKED and contains a TROJAN.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2282218]I use Malwarebytes premium and when the new window opens it is a message from Malwarebytes that the site is BLOCKED and contains a TROJAN.[/QUOTE]Does this trojan has a name? I have run Hitman Pro and it could not find any problems.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2282057]I think also that the programmers have pushed this into the browser, in the same way the website programmer can control the HTML programming to either force the cursor into the Username box when opening any website that has a Username box, or the programmer can keep the cursor from showing up in that box (on the ISG website, the cursor does not show up in that box until I click into that box).[/QUOTE]I don't know much about programming but doesn't this apply to all popups? If it does the ad blocker should block it, so apparently they have found some workaround to avoid that it's being blocked.
I'm using Opera with the built-in ad blocker that is usually working very well, but not this time.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2282027]This whole thing is laughable! Spend your golden years in Pakistan[/QUOTE]Yeah, well why not? Cheap pyjamas, cheap naan bread and uncles offer their nieces to you for some American money. They invented the Pakistani Drill Press so it can't be bad at all.
My apologies for the cross post but I'm not getting many answers in the Vietnam forum so am reaching out to any frequent flier members here.
Is anyone able to help with information on the differences between PH and VND and how the system is best played over there?
Many Thanks, G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2280980]Guys,
I'm looking to return to HCMC after a single visit 15 years ago and just want to check if I have my facts straight. I've been mongering in the Philippines and HCMC seems to operate with some significant differences.
........
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2282291]I don't know much about programming but doesn't this apply to all popups? If it does the ad blocker should block it, so apparently they have found some workaround to avoid that it's being blocked.
I'm using Opera with the built-in ad blocker that is usually working very well, but not this time.[/QUOTE]Yes. The ads are being foisted upon paying members.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2282288]Does this trojan has a name? I have run Hitman Pro and it could not find any problems.[/QUOTE]I also use Malwarebytes premium and for two days was blocked from the site by malwarebytes due to un named trojan. However it has apparently been fixed because I now get in with no warning. Keeping my fingers crossed.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2282339]Is anyone able to help with information on the differences between PH and VND and how the system is best played over there?[/QUOTE]Easier to compare cities than countries in this case.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2282339]My apologies for the cross post but I'm not getting many answers in the Vietnam forum so am reaching out to any frequent flier members here.
Is anyone able to help with information on the differences between PH and VND and how the system is best played over there?
Many Thanks, G.[/QUOTE]I can give you some input in comparing HCMC to AC & Manila. I spent a week in HCMC, 2 years ago, and I have been to the PI (AC & MNL) multiples times.
I found HCMC much tougher ground to monger than the PI. In the PI, it is very clear to me that if you have money and are willing to spend it, you can find poon everywhere. In HCMC, it's a bit tougher as I found out. The language is a serious issue, very few folks speak any English, and people are constantly trying to scam you. Also, the culture in HCMC appears to demand discretion, making the language issue even worse. Finally, I am over 60 and the culture in HCMC appeared to be biased against older folks. I had a wingman who was over 70 years old and he quickly gave up on the scene. Luckily for him, he enjoyed being there, having served in the war. He was so excited to be back after nearly a 40-year absence that he ended up staying a month there, visiting all the neighborhood he visited during the 60's. He also took me to the war museum.
As for me, I never gave up and half way through my week there, I discovered Buy Vien. I quickly checked out of my 5-star hotel in D1, and got a room in the BV area. After that, it was "LE repot du guerrier" as the French would say. In other words, I had a ball the rest of the way.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2282431]I can give you some input in comparing HCMC to AC & Manila. I spent a week in HCMC, 2 years ago, and I have been to the PI (AC & MNL) multiples times.
I found HCMC much tougher ground to monger than the PI. In the PI, it is very clear to me that if you have money and are willing to spend it, you can find poon everywhere. In HCMC, it's a bit tougher as I found out. The language is a serious issue, very few folks speak any English, and people are constantly trying to scam you. Also, the culture in HCMC appears to demand discretion, making the language issue even worse. Finally, I am over 60 and the culture in HCMC appeared to be biased against older folks. I had a wingman who was over 70 years old and he quickly gave up on the scene. Luckily for him, he enjoyed being there, having served in the war. He was so excited to be back after nearly a 40-year absence that he ended up staying a month there, visiting all the neighborhood he visited during the 60's. He also took me to the war museum.
As for me, I never gave up and half way through my week there, I discovered Buy Vien. I quickly checked out of my 5-star hotel in D1, and got a room in the BV area. After that, it was "LE repot du guerrier" as the French would say. In other words, I had a ball the rest of the way.[/QUOTE]I concur, did the same city and found the exact same thing. Even if you manage to get a girl only a handful of hotels will actually let them visit your room. I had a room at the Luna hotel right on backpackers street so it was possible to get girls back (I called escorts which were all just average lookers). Did the massage thing and drank alot to pass the three days until it was time to head home. Luckily I had tons of fun in Thailand for three weeks so didn't need to release my seed as much as if I landed there the first day.
How easy is it to buy viagra, Cialis or some like that in pharmacy I Manila?
Do you have to have prescription to be able to buy it?
Don't want to buy it in the street.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2282449]I concur, did the same city and found the exact same thing. Even if you manage to get a girl only a handful of hotels will actually let them visit your room. I had a room at the Luna hotel right on backpackers street so it was possible to get girls back (I called escorts which were all just average lookers). Did the massage thing and drank alot to pass the three days until it was time to head home. Luckily I had tons of fun in Thailand for three weeks so didn't need to release my seed as much as if I landed there the first day.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys. I definitely get the impression that the system is much more focused towards a local market than foreign visitors.
Having said that, some of the girls on Thiendia and Kynu are farking gorgeous and well priced. No english but much better than those in the tourist areas. If only I can figure out how to make it happen and convince a couple into overnighters. . . 😁.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2281120]I am with Mog's. The amounts of money she is asking for are off-based, too much. OTOH to make the girl's case, she is traveling away from the fam to meet someone new; there are difficulties and dangers involved for the girl. To go further than Mog's, I would assume the girl is staying with you for several days / nights at that price. These kinds of send-money-bring-girl-first-time often go south, where after the money is sent, the girl makes every excuse at the last minute not to get on the bus.
Consider to proceed as such: Tell her you will send her 500 for travel (that's enough for aircon bus + foods if needed while she is on the road; the bus often stops here and there for potty break + food). You will again pay her for return travel when her time is completed. You will also give her the remainder of whatever money previously agreed upon at the morning of her departure (say, 5 k or 6 k, etc) .
VH, will PM you.[/QUOTE]I agree, but I must say, I never hold it against these ladies when they make such outrageous requests. One of Murphy's Laws is, "It's morally wrong to allow a sucker to keep his money. " LOL.
RG.
Just got message that blocked ISG website due to malware. I am using using Malwarebytes premium.
[QUOTE=Pat69;2282524]How easy is it to buy viagra, Cialis or some like that in pharmacy I Manila?
Do you have to have prescription to be able to buy it?
Don't want to buy it in the street.[/QUOTE]If you RTFF there is a wealth if info here. Also in your 3 FRs two asked about hotel in Ermita etc so assuming you came in Dec / Jan this year where is the FR and you would have found out about V, see etc while in the city? Just wondering.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2282626]Just got message that blocked ISG website due to malware. I am using using Malwarebytes premium.[/QUOTE]I use MB Premium also. Never had that happen. However the popup ads keep coming up at each login. WC.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2282673]I use MB Premium also. Never had that happen. However the popup ads keep coming up at each login. WC.[/QUOTE]How many pop ups do you get?
I get two. One when I enter my username and another when I open my first forum. After that it's add free.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2282679]How many pop ups do you get?
I get two. One when I enter my username and another when I open my first forum. After that it's add free.[/QUOTE]I only get one when I login. After that I don't get pop-ups anymore but for me the forum is not ad free. There are always ads on the left, right and top side.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2282339]
Is anyone able to help with information on the differences between PH and VND and how the system is best played over there?[/QUOTE]I have been to Vietnam (HCMC and Nha Trang) about 4 years ago and I had a good time. It's not as easy as the PH, but I knew that beforehand so I lowered my expectations.
The best advise I can give you is to collect AS MUCH information as you can in the Vietnam forum BEFORE you go there. Don't go there unprepared or only half prepared because you will spend most of your time in your hotel room figuring out on internet where the action is. And getting around in HCMC is a real PITA, comparable to Manila.
I can give you some information by PM if you want but it's probably dated by now.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2282431]
As for me, I never gave up and half way through my week there, I discovered Buy Vien. I quickly checked out of my 5-star hotel in D1, and got a room in the BV area. After that, it was "LE repot du guerrier" as the French would say. In other words, I had a ball the rest of the way.[/QUOTE]Buy Vien is the tourist (backpackers) area. In the Vietnam forum it's often advised NOT to go there because it's a tourist trap, but apparently you had a good time there LOL.
5-star hotels, as well as 4-star hotels, are usually not girl friendly in Vietnam. Better stay in 3-star or lower.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2282709]I only get one when I login. After that I don't get pop-ups anymore but for me the forum is not ad free. There are always ads on the left, right and top side.[/QUOTE]As a paid up Senior Member you can remove the ads by clicking on the Hide / Show Banners link in the Blue bar at the top of the page, next to the Abbreviation button.
Probably not very useful on a desk top but it makes the page a lot cleaner and easier to read on a phone screen.
Cheers, G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2282679]How many pop ups do you get?
I get two. One when I enter my username and another when I open my first forum. After that it's add free.[/QUOTE]I get just one ad pops up in a separate window. I get it at one of these three stages:
1) I click into the Username box, or.
2) I click any link (even before logging it), or.
3) I do nothing, just wait about 45 seconds, and an ad opens up.
Its never ad free, you will see these puppies on every page (pic).
[QUOTE=Goferring;2282735]As a paid up Senior Member you can remove the ads by clicking on the Hide / Show Banners link in the Blue bar at the top of the page, next to the Abbreviation button.[/QUOTE]I tried clicking on the Hide Banners link in the blue bar. It does not hide anything. It takes me to a page telling me to buy a subscription in order to hide banners (see pic. And notice the banner on top; and I already have a subscription).
Site owner: What is going on? Having a paid subscription should avoid ads and banners.
Thanks WC1,
It worked perfectly for me. Finally no more necessity to scroll through.
All the images.
Great job. Vic.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2282806]I tried clicking on the Hide Banners link in the blue bar. It does not hide anything. It takes me to a page telling me to buy a subscription in order to hide banners (see pic. And notice the banner on top; and I already have a subscription).
Site owner: What is going on? Having a paid subscription should avoid ads and banners.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2282806]
Site owner: What is going on? Having a paid subscription should avoid ads and banners.[/QUOTE]I doubt you will get an answer but it wouldn't surprise me if it has something to do with the move to the new host in the Netherlands. They had some technical problems with that (eg. the photo gallery) and given the long down times for maintenance every day I think they are still experiencing problems.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2282806]Site owner: What is going on? Having a paid subscription should avoid ads and banners.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2283137]I doubt you will get an answer but it wouldn't surprise me if it has something to do with the move to the new host in the Netherlands. They had some technical problems with that (eg. the photo gallery) and given the long down times for maintenance every day I think they are still experiencing problems.[/QUOTE]I reported my own post ("What is going on") to Admin, asking about the pop-up ads. The FAQ clearly shows a paid-up subscription should have no ads. If the new Admin has changed this policy (his prerogative obviously), he should announce it.
I would like to return to thee Philippines for some hard core depravity. Outside of the red light districts, where might be best? I want somewhere quiet, safe and where three is a plentiful of pussy for hire.
I start at the Arrivals Hall and go from there.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2283691]I would like to return to thee Philippines for some hard core depravity. Outside of the red light districts, where might be best? I want somewhere quiet, safe and where three is a plentiful of pussy for hire.[/QUOTE]
Hi friends,
Chatting with a girl for the future trip.
Question of how much I will pay for virgin came up.
First thing, how much is the market price?
Second, how in the world does one verify the virginity?
Vic.
Is it possible to not get an entry or exit stamp on your passport?
No but some countries allow citizens to have 2 passports.
[QUOTE=IndyHundred;2283916]Is it possible to not get an entry or exit stamp on your passport?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IndyHundred;2283916]Is it possible to not get an entry or exit stamp on your passport?[/QUOTE]What is this question in relation to?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2283938]What is this question in relation to?[/QUOTE]If you don't want your wife to know you've been mongering in the Philippines.
You just have to lose your passport on the way home from the airport and apply for a new one
[QUOTE=IndyHundred;2283916]Is it possible to not get an entry or exit stamp on your passport?[/QUOTE]PH immigration diligently stamp your passport in the order of your page unlike some countries that stamp random pages. On your exit they diligently stamp the exit next to your entry stamp.
I have never asked for anything different. That in itself might raise an alarm.
[QUOTE=IndyHundred;2283916]Is it possible to not get an entry or exit stamp on your passport?[/QUOTE]Yes - it is possible.
All you need to do is avoid the "official" ports of entry i.e. Airports and Seaports.
In other words, find a ship willing to drop (and pick-up) on any of the islands in the Philippines.
This is on the news but anyone who has not been vaccinated and I know some adults have not had it better think about get an injection before travelling. Measles is very contagious and am sure some of the cuties have never had it so best be aware.
Had chatted to a few in Visayas who are not sure if had the vaccination so they are now rushing around trying to get it if needed. Not nice if you get more so if an adult.
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47153817[/URL]
[URL]https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/02/07/1891668/measles-outbreak-expanded-other-regions[/URL]
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2283691]I would like to return to thee Philippines for some hard core depravity. Outside of the red light districts, where might be best? I want somewhere quiet, safe and where three is a plentiful of pussy for hire.[/QUOTE]Head to Tondo.
[QUOTE=IndyHundred;2283916]Is it possible to not get an entry or exit stamp on your passport?[/QUOTE]Some times the country of origin may not affix stamp in the passport in exit time; that don't make any problem for the arriving immigration. No question arises. But definitely being stamped in passport in entry time by any immigration.
That's what I call hardcore dedication / desperation to getting laid. 👍.
No comment on the risks and possible downsides involved. 😲.
[QUOTE=BKKguru;2283973]Yes - it is possible.
All you need to do is avoid the "official" ports of entry i.e. Airports and Seaports.
In other words, find a ship willing to drop (and pick-up) on any of the islands in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]
Depends in the source. It's not a market I dabble in but I have come across a few girls in various places. Cherry bargirls have said their prices are 50 to 100 k. I believe the bar generally gets half. I also was chatting to a Cebuana who said she gave hers up to a foreigner for some bullshit promises only. Apparently he fucked her three times then disappeared. True or not, who knows, but she was so bitter and twisted I tended to believe her.
As I said, I'm not an expert in this market and these are just comments I've received. Other guys may have more accurate costs from transactions they have actually gone thru with.
The only verification is her word. Good luck on a refund if it's bullshit. Scams abound.
I'm not going to get into why someone would spend that much to find a totaly inexperienced girl.
Enjoy, G.
[QUOTE=VictorHugo99;2283881]Hi friends,
Chatting with a girl for the future trip.
Question of how much I will pay for virgin came up.
First thing, how much is the market price?
Second, how in the world does one verify the virginity?
Vic.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2283943]If you don't want your wife to know you've been mongering in the Philippines.
You just have to lose your passport on the way home from the airport and apply for a new one[/QUOTE]Or find a pina with her own passport and import elsewhere.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2284013]Head to Tondo.[/QUOTE]Tondo. I was there in its Smokey Mountain heyday. Would be the perfect choice only I don't like pollution, I can't afford 15 whole divisions of Navy Seals to watch my back and I would like at least an outside chance of getting out alive. Pagadian might be the ticket. Just some small place where I can have a life of debauchery.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2283991]This is on the news but anyone who has not been vaccinated and I know some adults have not had it better think about get an injection before travelling. Measles is very contagious and am sure some of the cuties have never had it so best be aware.
Had chatted to a few in Visayas who are not sure if had the vaccination so they are now rushing around trying to get it if needed. Not nice if you get more so if an adult.
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47153817[/URL]
[URL]https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/02/07/1891668/measles-outbreak-expanded-other-regions[/URL][/QUOTE]I personally know of a 23 yo girl who recently got measles and had to be hospitalized. Near death with pneumonia. Be careful out there.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2283958]PH immigration diligently stamp your passport in the order of your page unlike some countries that stamp random pages. On your exit they diligently stamp the exit next to your entry stamp.
I have never asked for anything different. That in itself might raise an alarm.[/QUOTE]I can confirm this, They are quite diligent with the stamping.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2284045]That's what I call hardcore dedication / desperation to getting laid. 👍.
No comment on the risks and possible downsides involved. 😲.[/QUOTE]More like stupidity and a desire to see the inside of a Philippine jail cell. The special one for overstaying foreigners where an American died of TB last week.
[URL]http://philippineslifestyle.com/tuberculosis-american-bicutan/[/URL]
But some of us are boring and others are not so each to his own.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2283943]You just have to lose your passport on the way home from the airport and apply for a new one[/QUOTE]That's an expensive option. In order to inflict some pain and teach us to respect for our passport Australian government adds AUD184 to the cost of the replacement.
I think at port of entry (haven't tried itin PH) you can ask for the stamp to go on sheet of paper or maybe use a fresh page and remove the page.
In reality, I think few souses check the passports.
BD.
Thanks M. WR and Dg8787 for warning.
Will be careful when I go and see fa lady unwell. Take care, Vic.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2284266]I personally know of a 23 yo girl who recently got MD goeasles and had to be hospitalized. Near death with pneumonia. Be careful out there.[/QUOTE]
A quick personal question for the M masters.
When you meet FL for the first time, are there specify precautions when it comes to personal belongings?
Is there a greater danger among MNL girls?
Just wanting to verify this point.
Thanks.
Vic.
[QUOTE=VictorHugo99;2283881]Hi friends,
Chatting with a girl for the future trip.
Question of how much I will pay for virgin came up.
First thing, how much is the market price?
Second, how in the world does one verify the virginity?
Vic.[/QUOTE]Market price depends on the girl. Just ask her how much she wants and then go from there. I have had few before paying 20000 pesos. They are from the provinces as far away as Mindanao. Couple from dating site and others from contacts. I usually fly them into Manila and spend a week with them. Some have turned up to be repeats. Actually I am talking to a girl in Cebu who claims she is a virgin. Do not know how it will end up. In Angeles it is a racket. Going rate I heard is anywhere between 50000 to 100000 pesos. I would not do that.
How to confirm before? Cannot do. Best thing is you will know once you do the deed. I have done before in my younger here in USA when I was young and of course no payment. I made it a special day for them getting a room in a nice hotel, flowers, candies, romantic dinner. They enjoyed it.
In Philippines it is hard to find except some ugly ones. In Angeles I had barfined a girl advertised as virgin. She confided in me in private saying she is not a real virgin and we had lots of fun. She said she did not like to fuck lots of men and that is only way to do that. She said the bars do not bother checking. She was a very pretty girl. Another time I barfined another pretty virgin and while fingering found out she is a real virgin. She said the same. She was willing to give it to me if I would support her sending money every month for her studies and expenses. She wanted 10000 per month and get out of the bar.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2284449]Market price depends on the girl. Just ask her how much she wants and then go from there. I have had few before paying 20000 pesos.
Actually I am talking to a girl in Cebu who claims she is a virgin. Do not know how it will end up. In Angeles it is a racket. Going rate I heard is anywhere between 50000 to 100000 pesos. I would not do that..[/QUOTE]The 20000 is what I have heard from a few. One was 25000 with a westerner but the others were Korean and Japanese. But as Sammon says, the price rises in the cities plus if there is a cousin / friend / fixer the 50-100 range is easily possible and that tends to be the market for Koreans and Japs. I know 2 who were paid that (but I also know another who got paid that she said for a Trike Patrol session or two so which would you prefer?
Generally I prefer no virgins just easier and less drama (well potential drama) and those prices put me off. I have had but then I did not pay.
And when I was younger I did as Sammon did sometimes (but not always LOL).
[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2284311]That's an expensive option. In order to inflict some pain and teach us to respect for our passport Australian government adds AUD184 to the cost of the replacement.
I think at port of entry (haven't tried itin PH) you can ask for the stamp to go on sheet of paper or maybe use a fresh page and remove the page.
In reality, I think few souses check the passports.
BD.[/QUOTE]Australia is one of the countries that allows second passports. Not sure on current cost but visiting the Middle East and Israel is a common reason.
I wouldn't rip pages out of my passport. I can see it raising a lot of questions from home or visiting immigration and I think it invalidates the document anyway. Passports remain the property of the state not the individual.
You might get away with it but. . . .
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2283958]PH immigration diligently stamp your passport in the order of your page unlike some countries that stamp random pages. On your exit they diligently stamp the exit next to your entry stamp.
I have never asked for anything different. That in itself might raise an alarm.[/QUOTE]You can say a lot of negative things about Philippines bureaucracy but when it comes to stamping that passport, they are probably the best at it. Thank you everyone for your input on this as I was hoping that there was a stealth option. And I do not recommend that anyone asks them not to stamp as I do agree it will raise alarms.
It's annoying when I open ISG and click on any page it's redirecting to a Escort Ad page. That never happen any other website. Who is infected either my computer or ISG server?
[blue]That is our advertiser, only pops up once per day.
Admin3[/blue]
I'd agree on their efficiency at giving out initial stamps. However, if you overstay and arrive at the airport, quite often the fine / visa extension is paid for but that stamp and receipt is "forgotten".
[QUOTE=IndyHundred;2284682]You can say a lot of negative things about Philippines bureaucracy but when it comes to stamping that passport, they are probably the best at it. Thank you everyone for your input on this as I was hoping that there was a stealth option. And I do not recommend that anyone asks them not to stamp as I do agree it will raise alarms.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Goferring;2284756]I'd agree on their efficiency at giving out initial stamps. However, if you overstay and arrive at the airport, quite often the fine / visa extension is paid for but that stamp and receipt is "forgotten".[/QUOTE]I recently extended my visa by one month at an immigration office in a mall in Lapu X2. They no longer stamp the passport with the extesion but give you a piece of paper allowing extension, I am hanging onto that until I depart as that is the only proof I have of extension OK. I do not know if all immigration offices are not stamping passport.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2284632]Australia is one of the countries that allows second passports. Not sure on current cost but visiting the Middle East and Israel is a common reason.
I wouldn't rip pages out of my passport. I can see it raising a lot of questions from home or visiting immigration and I think it invalidates the document anyway. Passports remain the property of the state not the individual. You might get away with it but..[/QUOTE]Missing pages invalidates the passport and leads to awkward questions eg were you deported and have a stamp on the elided page or were you in a naughty country.
Israel allows you use a sheet and not have your passport stamped. However, they will most likely give you morfe than their usual thorough going over.
T passport control, the idea is to get through with the minimum of fuss is the game and making dumb requests does not help.
Second passports or just surrendering your first passport early works but you will be asked why you are doing that.
Always best to keep things simple though this may be hard for those with a sense of entitlement.
[QUOTE=MuaTur;2284695][blue]That is our advertiser, only pops up once per day.
Admin3[/blue][/QUOTE]Admin, thanks. I reported this issue about 6 days ago and have not heard back. Some questions. Why wasn't this change posted?
Also, why can't I hide the banners? The FAQ page says paid members can hide the banners. When I click on "Hide Banners" it does not hide the banners, it just takes me to the FAQ page, which explains that paid members can hide banners.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2284872]Admin, thanks. I reported this issue about 6 days ago and have not heard back. Some questions. Why wasn't this change posted?
Also, why can't I hide the banners? The FAQ page says paid members can hide the banners. When I click on "Hide Banners" it does not hide the banners, it just takes me to the FAQ page, which explains that paid members can hide banners.[/QUOTE]Westie,
Firstly, are your posts screened my moderators? If they are posted live Admin probably won't see this. I did try to PM Admin3 saying that his reply to MT was incorrect (I get 3 pop ups per login) but he, Admin3, has PMs disabled.
Secondly, if you're getting the Banner message after hiding then just open another page eg the Front Page tab and they should disappear then.
Cheers, G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2284875]Westie,
Firstly, are your posts screened my moderators? If they are posted live Admin probably won't see this. I did try to PM Admin3 saying that his reply to MT was incorrect (I get 3 pop ups per login) but he, Admin3, has PMs disabled.
Secondly, if you're getting the Banner message after hiding then just open another page eg the Front Page tab and they should disappear then.
Cheers, G.[/QUOTE]I get a pop up every time I log in. Not just one each 24 hours. Just for fun I logged in and got a popup. Logged off, logged in and got another popup. I don't think I'm screened by mods. However, I reported my own such post complaining, and reports go directly to Admin. I cannot hide banners: clicking on the Hide Banners link does not hide them, it simply directs me to the FAQ page (which says paid members won't see banners).
I've heard hookers are using Instagram these days to advertise themselves. M. O. Is usally always bikini pics and profile message to DM them. I found this one hot Korean girl who seems to live in Boracay running a foot massage shop. Yeah, sound ridiculous. Just screams I'm a hooker so contact me. And if I'm in boracay I'm going to go bang her ASAP. One of the hottest chick I've ever seen.
Here's her instagram: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/boracay_nana[/URL].
If admin blocks the link her IG is: boracay_nana.
Any info if she's a hooker?
[QUOTE=Sammon;2284449]Market price depends on the girl. Just ask her how much she wants and then go from there. I have had few before paying 20000 pesos. They are from the provinces as far away as Mindanao. Couple from dating site and others from contacts. I usually fly them into Manila and spend a week with them. Some have turned up to be repeats. Actually I am talking to a girl in Cebu who claims she is a virgin. Do not know how it will end up. In Angeles it is a racket. Going rate I heard is anywhere between 50000 to 100000 pesos. I would not do that.
How to confirm before? Cannot do. Best thing is you will know once you do the deed. I have done before in my younger here in USA when I was young and of course no payment. I made it a special day for them getting a room in a nice hotel, flowers, candies, romantic dinner. They enjoyed it.
In Philippines it is hard to find except some ugly ones. In Angeles I had barfined a girl advertised as virgin. She confided in me in private saying she is not a real virgin and we had lots of fun. She said she did not like to fuck lots of men and that is only way to do that. She said the bars do not bother checking. She was a very pretty girl. Another time I barfined another pretty virgin and while fingering found out she is a real virgin. She said the same. She was willing to give it to me if I would support her sending money every month for her studies and expenses. She wanted 10000 per month and get out of the bar.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2284967] I cannot hide banners: clicking on the Hide Banners link does not hide them, it simply directs me to the FAQ page (which says paid members won't see banners).[/QUOTE]What happens next? I get the same thing but in the next page that I open the banners are gone.
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2284970]I've heard hookers are using Instagram these days to advertise themselves. M. O. Is usally always bikini pics and profile message to DM them. I found this one hot Korean girl who seems to live in Boracay running a foot massage shop. Yeah, sound ridiculous. Just screams I'm a hooker so contact me. And if I'm in boracay I'm going to go bang her ASAP. One of the hottest chick I've ever seen.
Here's her instagram: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/boracay_nana[/URL].
If admin blocks the link her IG is: boracay_nana.
Any info if she's a hooker?[/QUOTE]Ask her. She will soon let you know.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2284819]Missing pages invalidates the passport and leads to awkward questions eg were you deported and have a stamp on the elided page or were you in a naughty country.
Israel allows you use a sheet and not have your passport stamped. However, they will most likely give you morfe than their usual thorough going over.
T passport control, the idea is to get through with the minimum of fuss is the game and making dumb requests does not help.
Second passports or just surrendering your first passport early works but you will be asked why you are doing that.
Always best to keep things simple though this may be hard for those with a sense of entitlement.[/QUOTE]I agree with everything you have said and go back to my earlier post that this is a lot of effort / risk to be going thru just to get laid.
The OP need to either man up and fly in, do the deed (s) then fly out or fly the love of his life out to somewhere where he can be seen.
No need to make this much harder than it need to be.
[URL]https://www.manilatimes.net/3-minors-die-in-davao-oriental-fire/509301/[/URL]
Three kids dead. Mother was out working as a massage therapist in Davao Oriental. I guess, after the lipstick, that's the life.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2285048]What happens next? I get the same thing but in the next page that I open the banners are gone.[/QUOTE]I get the following. I click on the Hide Banners link at the top of the page (I am logged in), and it takes me to this FAQ page: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/custompages.php?pageid=HideBanners[/URL].
The page looks like the first pic (note the banner on the page!
For fun, while on that page, there are links near the top of the page that say Front Page, and Forum. I click on the Front Page link, which takes me to this page: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/index.php[/URL].
That page has banners also (see second pic). All links that I open have banners. All browsers. #whaddamIdoingwrong?
Quick question - 2 wk trip. Going to Sabang. Maybe 7 days or so. After that have been thinking about Angeles or just stay in manila. Pros / Cons.
Will have to stay day in Manila when arrive (arrive 6 pm too late to get to Batangas & ferry) and then trip from Sabang to Angeles (5 hours if lucky. More like 6/7) so will break up and stay in Manila.
Considering I have 2 wks and with above schedule will spend 2 nights in Manila. Any point to go to Angeles for 5 days (also thinking about trip back to manila for airport).
I know Angeles is cheaper. Would like to go to Angeles to cross off list. Manila to Angeles 2 hrs to??5 hours if unlucky.
Ideal would be to fly from Australia to Clark and then do trip in reverse. Got a business flight from Aust for $2200 to manila early Dec so pretty good value.
Ideal response would be. Nothing you can get in Angeles you can't get in Manila at approx same price and quality.
Appreciate.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2285092]Quick question - 2 wk trip. Going to Sabang. Maybe 7 days or so. After that have been thinking about Angeles or just stay in manila. Pros / Cons.
.....
I know Angeles is cheaper. Would like to go to Angeles to cross off list. Manila to Angeles 2 hrs to??5 hours if unlucky.
Ideal would be to fly from Australia to Clark and then do trip in reverse. Got a business flight from Aust for $2200 to manila early Dec so pretty good value.
Ideal response would be. Nothing you can get in Angeles you can't get in Manila at approx same price and quality.
Appreciate.[/QUOTE]If you have never been to AC it's certainly worth a look for a few days.
Sorry for the non ideal answer but both quality and cost are higher in Manila at the top end. Mid to low end it's the same.
Sabang to AC by road is an all day affair. You might want to look into flying Juan Air or AirTrav. Much more civilised.
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2284970]I've heard hookers are using Instagram these days to advertise themselves. M. O. Is usally always bikini pics and profile message to DM them. I found this one hot Korean girl who seems to live in Boracay running a foot massage shop. Yeah, sound ridiculous. Just screams I'm a hooker so contact me. And if I'm in boracay I'm going to go bang her ASAP. One of the hottest chick I've ever seen.
Here's her instagram: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/boracay_nana[/URL].
If admin blocks the link her IG is: boracay_nana.
Any info if she's a hooker?[/QUOTE]You posted this in AC section also and me and others replied there so maybe just post in one thread? Ever thought this is a LB with expensive surgery. Maybe when in Boracay you will find out?
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2284800]I recently extended my visa by one month at an immigration office in a mall in Lapu X2. They no longer stamp the passport with the extesion but give you a piece of paper allowing extension, I am hanging onto that until I depart as that is the only proof I have of extension OK. I do not know if all immigration offices are not stamping passport.[/QUOTE]It's becoming more and more unusual for immigration to stamp passports.
My trips in and out of Australia (twice in 2018; once already in 2019) I used the Smart Gate and there was no stamp.
I just returned from a few days in HK and they don't stamp either; you get a duplicate copy of your arrival card plus a small 2 cm by 2 cm slip of paper (the visa) and a short lecture not to lose it before you exit.
Of course, Phils still stamps foreign passports in and out.
In recent discussion of ads on the site, yesterday and today my pop-ups (once on each log-in) have become a blank page or window. See pic. Leaving the new window open for a few minutes does not populate it with any advert.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2285234]It's becoming more and more unusual for immigration to stamp passports. SNIP Of course, Phils still stamps foreign passports in and out.[/QUOTE]Last year, I visited the Intramuros office to extend several times. On previous trips to the BI to extend, the extension was not a stamp. I got a small sticker, about 1 x2", looks like it has some metalic foil on it, placed right next to the inbound stamp. The sticker shows the new extended date.
However last year my first visit to BI Intramuros did not get that sticker. I got a paper receipt, approximately 3 x9". It looks a bit like the grocery receipt you get when buying at the grocery store. It shows office location, name, fees paid, and new visa departure date. It was paperclipped into the back of my PP. I inquired, where is the metalic sticker? "We ran out last month. Don't lose that paper receipt. Its your extended visa. You will need to show that when you depart the country". Got it. Not terribly happy with that, as it might get lost. Hey, BI guy, what happens if it got lost, when I am departing? "Its OK. Immigration officer will have it on their computer". So, I didn't really need to save it. And if you extend there several times, you will get several of those paperclipped into your PP.
Two months later, in the province, I went to extend again. Those nice people had the metalic sticker and placed it in my PP next to the inbound stamp. Later, back in Manila and departing thru NAIA, I had paper receipts paperclipped in the back of my PP. The outbound Immigration lady never bothered to look at the receipts. She swiped my PP, looked at the metalic stamp, stamped, and I was quickly on my way, in-country for many months.
Better to be more then less I say. And no way this chick is LB. I got LB radar. No matter how much surgery, estorgen shots you take no way those hips, boobs, and face and skin tone is a shemale. And yeah in boracay I'm definitely check her place out. If someone was born to be something that chick was born to be a hooker with a body like that.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2285142]You posted this in AC section also and me and others replied there so maybe just post in one thread? Ever thought this is a LB with expensive surgery. Maybe when in Boracay you will find out?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2285234]
My trips in and out of Australia (twice in 2018; once already in 2019) I used the Smart Gate and there was no stamp.
[/QUOTE]I thought you were Australian? Do they stamp passports of Australians as well? (when they are not using the Smart Gate).
Or do you not possess an Australian passport anymore?
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2286301]I thought you were Australian? Do they stamp passports of Australians as well? (when they are not using the Smart Gate).[/QUOTE]They haven't been stamping Australian passports in Australia for the past 10-years.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2286302]They haven't been stamping Australian passports in Australia for the past 10-years.[/QUOTE]OK. In the Netherlands they have never stamped Dutch passports as far as I know. It makes no sense to me to stamp the passports of your own citizens.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2286304]OK. In the Netherlands they have never stamped Dutch passports as far as I know. It makes no sense to me to stamp the passports of your own citizens.[/QUOTE]Only that it gives you a quick reference to your own travels in / out of the country.
I reckon movements are still monitored. Biometric passports are scanned. Israel has visiting edge technology to monitor Palestinians crossing the checkpoints but relies on personal inspections at Tel Aviv. I know a naughty American who gets pulled every time he returns to the Land of the Free as he is obviously on a list. Many years ago, I lost my Thai chit but they could dig up the other half of it when I was leaving Thailand. They want records of all movements, more so and this age of criss crossing data sets. Interesting topic.
Any suggestions on where I can purchase some casual shorts. Forgot to pack some in my hast to get here from the freeze.
[QUOTE=HornDog3;2287177]Any suggestions on where I can purchase some casual shorts. Forgot to pack some in my hast to get here from the freeze.[/QUOTE]Try the store. Anything else we can help you with? LOL.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2287235]Try the store. Anything else we can help you with? LOL.[/QUOTE]👍 That showed incredible restraint. 😁.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2287235]Try the store. Anything else we can help you with? LOL.[/QUOTE]Hey ED. Thanks for the info. It was very helpful. I really appreciate your knowledge and insight on the subject. But a Filipino 2 xl is a lot smaller than the usa size 2 xl.
[QUOTE=HornDog3;2287310]Hey ED. Thanks for the info. It was very helpful. I really appreciate your knowledge and insight on the subject. But a Filipino 2 xl is a lot smaller than the usa size 2 xl.[/QUOTE]Go into any mall and shop in the department store. You can try the shorts on in a fitting room to see what Filipino size you are. I find that my size in the US is the same as marked in Phils.
[QUOTE=HornDog3;2287310]Hey ED. Thanks for the info. It was very helpful. I really appreciate your knowledge and insight on the subject. But a Filipino 2 xl is a lot smaller than the usa size 2 xl.[/QUOTE]In defence of ED, why didn't you say that in your first post? You would have got much more help by providing more info than asking the most basic of questions.
If you're still in AC, SM mall is literally 5 minutes walk from Fields. With so many foreigners in town (and the expanding waste line of the average Pinay) moderately large sizes are available. Just have a walk around and look in he various shops.
Unlike Westie, I often find I have to go up 2 or so sizes. I'm a small guy but often have to look for XL to get something that fits.
Enjoy your trip, G.
I'm a member of another forum which is strictly non-mongering. There the term for WR's "manager" is "askhole".
Is there no ho scene there? Theres not even a forum for that place.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2287874]I'm a member of another forum which is strictly non-mongering. There the term for WR's "manager" is "askhole".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2288894]Is there no ho scene there? Theres not even a forum for that place.[/QUOTE]You can find, but better BYO.
Question, what is likely to happen if I overstay my visa. It expires March 2 and because of so many lovelies yet to meet I may stay 2 days past that date. If too punitive I will not go past but leave on time.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2289077]Question, what is likely to happen if I overstay my visa. It expires March 2 and because of so many lovelies yet to meet I may stay 2 days past that date. If too punitive I will not go past but leave on time.[/QUOTE]Been there done that. 😁.
You will line up up at the normal NAIA immigration queue. They will point out that you have overstayed. Admit you are very sorry but you got tour dates mixed up. Said Immigration will point you to a separate line where you will pay the normal visa extension and express service fees of 3 k. Cash only accepted, no credit cards. You will then stop sweating and proceed to your departure lounge with no record of overstating your visa.
Next time you return there is no need to declare you have ever overstayed.
Enjoy, G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2289085]
You will line up up at the normal NAIA immigration queue. They will point out that you have overstayed. Admit you are very sorry but you got tour dates mixed up. Said Immigration will point you to a separate line where you will pay the normal visa extension and express service fees of 3 k. Cash only accepted, no credit cards. You will then stop sweating and proceed to your departure lounge with no record of overstating your visa. [/QUOTE]Not so Gofer. There IS a record (my Aussie border protection friend assures me).
There will be a note made on your record for every border agent to read when he next checks in anywhere in the world.
It will not matter of course UNLESS he overstays again anywhere. Then it might get interesting.
For me, I would go to Immigration and pay for an extension. You will avoid paying a fine and you can stay on as long as you like in a relaxed state without any worries about what might happen at the airport.
You will also avoid the need to get to the airport to check in extra early to be sure that the long line ahead of you being dealt with for extraneous reasons doesn't prevent you from missing your flight.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2289199]Not so Gofer. There IS a record (my Aussie border protection friend assures me).
There will be a note made on your record for every border agent to read when he next checks in anywhere in the world.
It will not matter of course UNLESS he overstays again anywhere. Then it might get interesting.
For me, I would go to Immigration and pay for an extension. You will avoid paying a fine and you can stay on as long as you like in a relaxed state without any worries about what might happen at the airport.
You will also avoid the need to get to the airport to check in extra early to be sure that the long line ahead of you being dealt with for extraneous reasons doesn't prevent you from missing your flight.[/QUOTE]That sucks. Is it the case even if no fine was paid?
Technically I just paid the normal visa extension and priority processing fee. There was no interest or late fees added. I've never been asked on subsequent re entries. That's why I said there was no record if me overstaying. I'd be interested in if my assumption was incorrect.
Of course you are right that the best option is a normal renewal prior to expiry. I only did mine at the airport as I forgot to renew and had only overstayed a couple of days.
[QUOTE=HornDog3;2287177]Any suggestions on where I can purchase some casual shorts. Forgot to pack some in my hast to get here from the freeze.[/QUOTE]I will assume that this is a real question, so since it is in the general area I will also assume that you are in Manila?
Quiapo is fun to shop at. Just get a ride and tell the driver divi for divisoria.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2285092]Quick question - 2 wk trip. Going to Sabang. Maybe 7 days or so. After that have been thinking about Angeles or just stay in manila. Pros / Cons.
Will have to stay day in Manila when arrive (arrive 6 pm too late to get to Batangas & ferry) and then trip from Sabang to Angeles (5 hours if lucky. More like 6/7) so will break up and stay in Manila.
Considering I have 2 wks and with above schedule will spend 2 nights in Manila. Any point to go to Angeles for 5 days (also thinking about trip back to manila for airport).
I know Angeles is cheaper. Would like to go to Angeles to cross off list. Manila to Angeles 2 hrs to??5 hours if unlucky.
Ideal would be to fly from Australia to Clark and then do trip in reverse. Got a business flight from Aust for $2200 to manila early Dec so pretty good value.
Ideal response would be. Nothing you can get in Angeles you can't get in Manila at approx same price and quality.
Appreciate.[/QUOTE]Quite a lot of traveling to do with one week in puerto but since 2 K for a flight is not a big deal, I would fly to sabang and then fly to clark. The boat plane can get you to sabang or if you use the airport, its only about an hour away.
No ideal response here. Yes you can get everything and more in manila, but it is spread out a lot more (traffic is mind blowing) and it will cost a little bit more.
Hi guys, I can't find a forum on Cebu city. Which forum is covering Cebu city actions.
Zux.
[QUOTE=Kamking1;2292327]Hi guys, I can't find a forum on Cebu city. Which forum is covering Cebu city actions.
Zux.[/QUOTE]You need to go to the main Asis forum list. Cebu has a stand alone forum separate to The Philippines.
PS. Sorry about the image quality but you get the idea
[QUOTE=Kamking1;2292327]Hi guys, I can't find a forum on Cebu city. Which forum is covering Cebu city actions.
Zux.[/QUOTE]Z: We ask ourselves that question sometimes. Its near the bottom of the main Phils page (see first pic), under the User Blogs section. Scroll down about 80% of that page (see second pic) and find Link to Cebu Forum.
WC.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2292330]Z: We ask ourselves that question sometimes. Its near the bottom of the main Phils page (see first pic), under the User Blogs section. Scroll down about 80% of that page (see second pic) and find Link to Cebu Forum.
WC.[/QUOTE]Good question for sure, there is another way, not sure if its simpler but.
When you are on a Phil forum, scroll up to find the path Home Forum - Asia - The Philippines - General Info or whatever else.
Then clic on Asia.
Then scroll down all asian countries and forums, you will see 3 Phil forums, with the Cebu one.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2292330]Z: We ask ourselves that question sometimes. Its near the bottom of the main Phils page (see first pic), under the User Blogs section. Scroll down about 80% of that page (see second pic) and find Link to Cebu Forum.
WC.[/QUOTE]Thanks, really appreciate your inputs.
Zux.
[QUOTE=KgirlPower;2288894]Is there no ho scene there? Theres not even a forum for that place.[/QUOTE]I've been intrigued by that for a long time but never wanted to BYO as I don't want to be stuck with one girl.
Tinder to the rescue! As a Gold member you can appear anywhere in the world. I recently set my location as Boracay as swiped at least twenty or thirty profiles. It seemed like there were enough single girls available and based on that, I would definitely go solo to Boracay.
Ye I am behind the times but I am preparing again, what system is used now CL is gone? Where do I find the freaks?
PP.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2292330]Z: We ask ourselves that question sometimes. Its near the bottom of the main Phils page (see first pic), under the User Blogs section. Scroll down about 80% of that page (see second pic) and find Link to Cebu Forum.
WC.[/QUOTE]Westie you love to make things hard for yourself pun intended! Go to the Asia page as Albert says. I use this method is simple and fast LOL.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2292756]Westie you love to make things hard for yourself pun intended! Go to the Asia page as Albert says. I use this method is simple and fast LOL.[/QUOTE]Your and Albert's way are no fewer clicks than mine. Alternate method for those regular visits: Bookmark it once you find it.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2293170]Your and Albert's way are no fewer clicks than mine. Alternate method for those regular visits: Bookmark it once you find it.[/QUOTE]Cebu is dead anyway so the thread is only representative of the current scene.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2293174]As a regular visitor I purchase a P100 load card when I leave the country. I then use that card wen I next arrive in country.
[/QUOTE]Damn good idea!
[QUOTE=Free2;2293371]Damn good idea![/QUOTE]That works really well if you visit often.
Check the expiration date on the back of the load card.
Usually the smaller denominations have a shorter life span.
Also depending on where you purchase your load card, check the expiration date before you buy it.
It is much easier to just add load via the internet a day or so before you travel. Depending upon which service you use, it may cost a little bit extra for the convenience, but it is worth it. It has been many years since I have physically purchased load, as it is much more convenient for me to just add from my laptop or phone.
What is important to remember is to avail the promo, otherwise your load will disappear fast.
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;2292683]Ye I am behind the times but I am preparing again, what system is used now CL is gone? Where do I find the freaks?
PP.[/QUOTE]It is the digital world, everything has moved underground.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2292756]Westie you love to make things hard for yourself pun intended! Go to the Asia page as Albert says. I use this method is simple and fast LOL.[/QUOTE]Vivastreet, Locanto, Massage Republic if you are loaded.
Do simple Google searches. Escort - Manila. Etc and theyy will pop up.
[QUOTE=Transporter;2293419]That works really well if you visit often.
Check the expiration date on the back of the load card.
Usually the smaller denominations have a shorter life span.
Also depending on where you purchase your load card, check the expiration date before you buy it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Transporter;2293428]This was so long ago, that I don't know if it is still relevant today. But I remember for some reason I wanted to or had to buy a sim card and get load as I exited the airport (can't remember, but probably because I wanted to update a girl or girls I was meeting so that they could get on there way and we could meet faster as opposed to getting to the hotel and then buying my sim and texting the girl (s). Could save me a few hours). I purchased the sim and the remainder of 1000 pesos for load, figuring that it should last me a good part of a week and I could always add load later. Had them install it and add the load, he showed me the balance of 900 something load and I paid him and left. After a couple of days I ran out of load? I know I was texting a lot of girls, but still that was a bit fast. Did some research and found out that when texting different networks, it cost more but at that time it still wouldn't have burned up my load. Also found out that there are sim cards that people sell that steal load. Possible. Came to the conclusion that they sold me load that had a short life (cheaper for them to buy) so my load expired before I used them.[/QUOTE]All prepaid load now has a validity of 12 months regardless of value. I'm pretty sure that's from activation on a phone rather than manufacture date of the plastic card. I'd expect cards issued at the telco kiosks to be very fresh but yes, in remote areas, it is something to watch for. Previously it could be as low as a couple of days for low value top ups.
[URL]https://www.bworldonline.com/smart-globe-implement-1-year-expiry[/URL]
Girls will often ask what network you are on and give you the corresponding number as, depending on what package you / they are using calls and SMS across networks can be significantly more expensive than intranetwork. SMS on the same network are typically only free or 1 p each. Larger packages do offer free SMS to all networks.
Some things to watch out for: girls love to chat so a meaningless SMS conversation can eat low value load if you are not aware of your pricing; it's very easy to send load to another phone so if a girl is using yours she could be sending your load to hers quite quickly without your knowledge. A.
Generally I've found I use SMS less and less as chat apps like WhatsApp etc become more popular.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Free2;2293371]Damn good idea![/QUOTE]How did you manage to quote me saying something I didn't say Free2??
I have lived here for 21 years. I don't buy load. I have post-paid accounts and have had them for 20 years with Globe.
When I click on "view original post" in your quote I am taken to my quote about Cebu being dead and nothing about buying 100 php load cards?
Weird stuff.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2293467]How did you manage to quote me saying something I didn't say Free2??
I have lived here for 21 years. I don't buy load. I have post-paid accounts and have had them for 20 years with Globe.
When I click on "view original post" in your quote I am taken to my quote about Cebu being dead and nothing about buying 100 php load cards?
Weird stuff.[/QUOTE]Good catch. I wanted to quote but the quote was from the Manila forum where they were jabbering about Globe and sim cards, which should be in the General Info section IMO.
So I went to the General Info and grabbed your post JUST TO USE THE QUOTE TEXT (and brackets etc) so it would show up as a quote. Sorry, I didn't realize it referred to the post!
[QUOTE=Free2;2293825]Good catch. I wanted to quote but the quote was from the Manila forum where they were jabbering about Globe and sim cards, which should be in the General Info section IMO.
So I went to the General Info and grabbed your post JUST TO USE THE QUOTE TEXT (and brackets etc) so it would show up as a quote. Sorry, I didn't realize it referred to the post![/QUOTE]Next time just click on 'Reply with quote' in the Manila forum, copy the entire text of the post (including the brackets etc), go to the General Info forum, click 'Add Report' and paste the copied text.
I was recently denied entry at Manila airport for being on the blacklist. I was given no explanation or reason and I left on the next flight out. I have no idea how I got on the list as I have no criminal background, never broke any laws during my previous trips and have no problems entering other countries. The only thing I can think of is one of my long term girls that I have cut off recently making some false reports to authorities. Some of those girls probably have my info because I have taken them on trips abroad and in some cases I had to sign forms at immigration to get them out. Can anyone recommend a good lawyer that can help me with this? Is it even fixable? Or should I just forget about Philippines? Thanks in advance for any help.
[QUOTE=Toronto;2294094]I was recently denied entry at Manila airport for being on the blacklist. I was given no explanation or reason and I left on the next flight out. I have no idea how I got on the list as I have no criminal background, never broke any laws during my previous trips and have no problems entering other countries. The only thing I can think of is one of my long term girls that I have cut off recently making some false reports to authorities. Some of those girls probably have my info because I have taken them on trips abroad and in some cases I had to sign forms at immigration to get them out. Can anyone recommend a good lawyer that can help me with this? Is it even fixable? Or should I just forget about Philippines? Thanks in advance for any help.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Is there a way one can find out before boarding the inbound flight is he is blacklisted as such?
I am aware (starting about 1 year ago) that the US outbound airlines might try and stop you from boarding if there might be an issue (they are responsible for returning you from Phils to your starting point if you get the boot). For example, if your PP is near the end of its expiry, and within the 6-month limit for Phils, you might be denied boarding in the US (because the airline is responsible for your deport / return). Also 2 x in the last year a check-in agent (once in US, once in Asia) swiped my PP, took a long look at the computer screen, and informed me that I could not board the outbound flight from US to Phils. Reason: There was no return flight listed on their computer (no phils outbound), and I did not have a pre-approved 59-day visa (their computers caught this). In reality I had outbound flights on other airlines, but past the 30- and 59-day limits. Both agents told me I could not proceed. The first agent, in the US, worked for a major American airline. I mentioned to her that Americans can stay up to one year by repeatedly extending the original 30-day visa to 59-day visas. "Not. Must have a 59-day visa for that". I showed her the (much) later phils outbound ticket on the other airline. "Sorry. You can't board. I am Filipina and I know my country's Immigration laws". She had the look and accent. Well, musta mahal. I asked her to call a supervisor and look thru the Phils Immigration rules. She did just that. She and the super took more than 5 minutes reading the regulations, and they found it. "Aha. There is exception for Americans. Did not know that. You may proceed sir. ". At another airport in Asia I ran into the same thing; had to call a supervisor to help find the correct Immigration rule. Should have asked them for a screen capture of it. In both instances, their computers red-flagged the issue to start.
If computers are this sophisticated, why didn't the airline's system flag something?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2294114] Also 2 x in the last year a check-in agent (once in US, once in Asia) swiped my PP, took a long look at the computer screen, and informed me that I could not board the outbound flight from US to Phils. Reason: There was no return flight listed on their computer (no phils outbound), and I did not have a pre-approved 59-day visa (their computers caught this)[/QUOTE]Home airports may also deny boarding if you have Residency or Citizenship documents that do not appear official or are not translated. When in doubt make life as easy and as simple as possible for airline and immigration personnel and don't rely in their knowledge of the fine points of legislation.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Toronto;2294094]I was recently denied entry at Manila airport for being on the blacklist. I was given no explanation or reason and I left on the next flight out. I have no idea how I got on the list as I have no criminal background, never broke any laws during my previous trips and have no problems entering other countries. The only thing I can think of is one of my long term girls that I have cut off recently making some false reports to authorities. Some of those girls probably have my info because I have taken them on trips abroad and in some cases I had to sign forms at immigration to get them out. Can anyone recommend a good lawyer that can help me with this? Is it even fixable? Or should I just forget about Philippines? Thanks in advance for any help.[/QUOTE]Sad to hear that but your reasoning could be logically possible as they can file some complaint with the police and then go to the BI. Not care if true just they are pinay and they must be right etc. I know others threatened with the same and no reason was given to them at the airport.
Plenty lawyers around but many have the habit of charging high and doing zero. And you won't find out until you have paid a lot beforehand!
But PM me I know a good one who represents old Manila friends assuming you want to go that that route, he has helped a few old friends in the past including me.
Westies. The 6 month PP rule applies to many countries and if taking a pinay out of the Philippines it is the first thing I ask her. As for US customs not knowing the rules. No surprises there LOL. Some ask and you cans how a return 'ticket' that you buy for around $10 but depends on the airline and how much sophistication the system at check in has. Many I know use this method with the budget airlines whose staff will accept a paper ticket and can't look up the booking but on bigger carriers am not too sure.
[QUOTE=Toronto;2294094]I was recently denied entry at Manila airport for being on the blacklist. I was given no explanation or reason and I left on the next flight out. I have no idea how I got on the list as I have no criminal background, never broke any laws during my previous trips and have no problems entering other countries. The only thing I can think of is one of my long term girls that I have cut off recently making some false reports to authorities. Some of those girls probably have my info because I have taken them on trips abroad and in some cases I had to sign forms at immigration to get them out. Can anyone recommend a good lawyer that can help me with this? Is it even fixable? Or should I just forget about Philippines? Thanks in advance for any help.[/QUOTE]It is fixable at great cost. Nevertheless, why bother? The Flips have make it quite clear that you are unwelcomed in the Philippines. There are worst things than being banned from Cheap Pussy Paradise. Going through the trouble of begging and bribing your way in just for the privilege of paying for cheap Flip puss does not make sense. Whatever charges your ex fuck toy made against you could possibly land you in a Flip jail indefinitely as you await trial in a corrupt judicial system. The immigration officials actually did you a favor when they denied you entry into their jurisdiction. Just take your cock to some other low budget mongering destination. In the future, do not get into relationships with the paid pussy, and keep your identity to yourself. You can still get into Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Indonesia. Just do not aggravate the pussy in those countries to the point that they blacklist you too.
[QUOTE=Transporter;2293428]This was so long ago, that I don't know if it is still relevant today. But I remember for some reason I wanted to or had to buy a sim card and get load as I exited the airport (can't remember, but probably because I wanted to update a girl or girls I was meeting so that they could get on there way and we could meet faster as opposed to getting to the hotel and then buying my sim and texting the girl (s). Could save me a few hours). I purchased the sim and the remainder of 1000 pesos for load, figuring that it should last me a good part of a week and I could always add load later. Had them install it and add the load, he showed me the balance of 900 something load and I paid him and left. After a couple of days I ran out of load? I know I was texting a lot of girls, but still that was a bit fast. Did some research and found out that when texting different networks, it cost more but at that time it still wouldn't have burned up my load. Also found out that there are sim cards that people sell that steal load. Possible. Came to the conclusion that they sold me load that had a short life (cheaper for them to buy) so my load expired before I used them.[/QUOTE]This a post from Manila thread.
The issue with your load is that you were on a casual plan. Your phone is using load just on data pings. The only way to use a prepaid mobile in Philippines is on a "promo".
I only know Globe promos, I suggest something like GOTSCOMBODD90 which you text to 8080.
This text and data promo comes with 2 GB mobile data and texts to all networks valid for 7 days (1 week) – for 90 pesos.
BD.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2294216]It is fixable at great cost. Nevertheless, why bother? The Flips have make it quite clear that you are unwelcomed in the Philippines. There are worst things than being banned from Cheap Pussy Paradise. Going through the trouble of begging and bribing your way in just for the privilege of paying for cheap Flip puss does not make sense. Whatever charges your ex fuck toy made against you could possibly land you in a Flip jail indefinitely as you await trial in a corrupt judicial system. The immigration officials actually did you a favor when they denied you entry into their jurisdiction. Just take your cock to some other low budget mongering destination. In the future, do not get into relationships with the paid pussy, and keep your identity to yourself. You can still get into Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Indonesia. Just do not aggravate the pussy in those countries to the point that they blacklist you too.[/QUOTE]I'm inclined to agree. Unless Toronto has business or very pressing personal ties that require entry, I'd just chalk it up to (bad) experience and move on.
Beating the claim is going to suck time, money and perspiration that could be better spent elsewhere. As CM said, there is also the chance that he could gain entry only to find himself subject to a similar trumped up criminal charge.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2294289]I'm inclined to agree. Unless Toronto has business or very pressing personal ties that require entry, I'd just chalk it up to (bad) experience and move on.
Beating the claim is going to suck time, money and perspiration that could be better spent elsewhere. As CM said, there is also the chance that he could gain entry only to find himself subject to a similar trumped up criminal charge.[/QUOTE]This seems like a very sound advice. I was simply asking to see if it was a relatively painless procedure but it doesn't sound that way. And the idea of one of the girls making accusations was just a guess by me, I truly have no idea what happened. I have no problem staying banned from Philippines, I have no business or family ties there. Thanks for the advice.
[QUOTE=Toronto;2294305]I truly have no idea what happened. I have no problem staying banned from Philippines.[/QUOTE]If you don't know why, it might be an idea to write politely to the PH Embassy in your home country, not to contest the case but to ask if they can release why you were prohibited entry, if there is anything you can do about it and if the ban will expire after X years. Most minor immigration bans have a expiry date.
Good luck. G.
[QUOTE=Toronto;2294094]I was recently denied entry at Manila airport for being on the blacklist. I was given no explanation or reason and I left on the next flight out..[/QUOTE]Were you held in a cell with other undersirables? Did they not send you back to where you came from, on your dime, and not "on the next flight"? These issues are important. See, you made no enquiries, no play at Manila Airport and that is B_A_D.
Here is probably happened. I assume you are canuck, that you have an enemy you don't know about there and that enemy knows you go to Phils for Pussy. The enemy reported you to the Mounties who flagged you with the Phil authorities, asking them if there was fire with your smoke? That is how your name was "black listed". (it was actually flagged but the Phils don't care and never reported back to the Mounties.).
I take it your passport is stamped denied entry. Consider getting a new passport.
You could clear this up in Canuck land by finding out from the Mounties if you were blacklisted / flagged and getting them to refund your plane fare. You have to know if you are flagged anywhere else as the enemy probably made out you were in other places too.
If you do get in cleared up in Canuck land, there is no guarantee you can enter the Phils again as efficiency is not their strong card. And you don't want to engage with their legal system.
If you are very sure of your ground, I would approach the Canuck authorities as they probably are keeping an eye on you. You must relax and try to find out who shopped you but you have probably showed your hand to them and they are happy with the result and are planning their next move against you.
In case anyone wants to criticise the above, I am deadly serious. And: The Philippines is one of the slackest places so be careful. I feel it important to find out if it is only the Philippines. Unlike the others, I am pointing the finger to Canuckland (gut feeling and other stuff I won't go on about).
[QUOTE=Goferring;2294322]..... Most minor immigration bans have a expiry date.
Good luck. G.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.immigration.gov.ph/images/ImmiAdminCircular/AdminCircularNO.%20SBM-2014-001.pdf[/URL]
Since entry was denied at the airport it must be one of the minor offenses otherwise they would have arrested Toronto on the spot and he would have discovered that prison is not more fun in the Philippines at all.
I see two options, forget about the Philippines and find another mongering destination lots around, or look into having the ban lifted.
Even if just out of curiosity, I'd look into what happened so I could possibly avoid this sort of problem here or elsewhere in the future.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2294363][URL]http://www.immigration.gov.ph/images/ImmiAdminCircular/AdminCircularNO.%20SBM-2014-001.pdf[/URL]
Since entry was denied at the airport it must be one of the minor offenses otherwise they would have arrested Toronto on the spot and he would have discovered that prison is not more fun in the Philippines at all.
I see two options, forget about the Philippines and find another mongering destination lots around, or look into having the ban lifted.
Even if just out of curiosity, I'd look into what happened so I could possibly avoid this sort of problem here or elsewhere in the future.[/QUOTE]The Canuck did not give us enough information to make really informed opinions. I raised thisd in my earlier post which is delayed as I am on a blacklist here myself. I reckon he was flagged in Canuckland. He did not make the most of his time at the airport to gather info on his case. Not good.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2294376]The Canuck did not give us enough information to make really informed opinions. I raised thisd in my earlier post which is delayed as I am on a blacklist here myself. I reckon he was flagged in Canuckland. He did not make the most of his time at the airport to gather info on his case. Not good.[/QUOTE]Confusion on your part Pedro. Mr. Toronto gave plenty of info on what happened to him.
Fact. He arrived at Manila airport immigration and was turned back. He had something in the Philippines file that he was undesirable and was sent back via the airline he came on. He did not state where he came from. It could have been a mistaken identity. He did not find out what it was. Once you are refused entry you are taken to a holding place until the next arranged departing flight is ready for you to board.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2294413]Confusion on your part Pedro. Mr. Toronto gave plenty of info on what happened to him. Fact. He arrived at Manila airport immigration and was turned back. He had something in the Philippines file that he was undesirable and was sent back via the airline he came on. He did not state where he came from. It could have been a mistaken identity. He did not find out what it was. Once you are refused entry you are taken to a holding place until the next arranged departing flight is ready for you to board.[/QUOTE]I have quoted him below not only to show that I am right and you are wrong but to reiterate.
1. I suggested he use his time in detention / being questioned to get any granule of information as it would be gold dust. The key thing is why was he flagged and from where. My hunch is it was Canucks who did him in but without further information it is hard to be sure. He missed a golden opportunity by not trying to get a nugget.
2. It is not a mistaken identity. They have his unique passport number, name and date of birth and they were what was flagged. Pedro Morales. Male - born - 1911- Passport number. Country of Issue Mexico. They type up Mexico and the number and out pops Pedro's details. If Canada gave the same number some other dude or dudes would pop out. So no way to make a mistake.
3. he has no evidence it was something in his Philippino file. It could very easily have been the Canucks asking the Pinoys to answer a query. If a serious charge was made against him in Canada, the cops there would have to follow it up for their files. Again, he has to try to find clues, any clues, so he is not shooting in the dark with Internet fools shouting in his ear.
4. Automatically being sent back from where you came is not always the way it works. He could have been given a choice of where he wants to fly. And, either way, it would be on his dime.
5. His failure is in not trying to get information at Manila airport as any granule go there would be gold dust. I am repeating that for his benefit, not for yours as I don't rate you or your "contributions" at all.
6. The fact he signed forms (stating what?) may be important, as might be where he brought his girlfriends (plural). Most of the women we meet would be trouble.
7. This case is important as someone did him in and it is important for all serious players to know why and how. It is another indication to be wary of these ladies. However, without knowing the calibre of the women in question, one cannot jump to conclusions, except to remember the motto: we pay them to leave.
8. On a personal level, this again just confirms my tactic of using the instructions on my prostitute tin: find them fukk then, pay them, forget them.
[QUOTE=Toronto;2294094]I was recently denied entry at Manila airport for being on the blacklist. I was given no explanation or reason and I left on the next flight out. I have no idea how I got on the list as I have no criminal background, never broke any laws during my previous trips and have no problems entering other countries. The only thing I can think of is one of my long term girls that I have cut off recently making some false reports to authorities. Some of those girls probably have my info because I have taken them on trips abroad and in some cases I had to sign forms at immigration to get them out. Can anyone recommend a good lawyer that can help me with this? Is it even fixable? Or should I just forget about Philippines? Thanks in advance for any help.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PedroMorales;2294354]Were you held in a cell with other undersirables? Did they not send you back to where you came from, on your dime, and not "on the next flight"? These issues are important. See, you made no enquiries, no play at Manila Airport and that is B_A_D.
Here is probably happened. I assume you are canuck, that you have an enemy you don't know about there and that enemy knows you go to Phils for Pussy. The enemy reported you to the Mounties who flagged you with the Phil authorities, asking them if there was fire with your smoke? That is how your name was "black listed". (it was actually flagged but the Phils don't care and never reported back to the Mounties.).
I take it your passport is stamped denied entry. Consider getting a new passport..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2294413]Confusion on your part Pedro. Mr. Toronto gave plenty of info on what happened to him.
Fact. He arrived at Manila airport immigration and was turned back. He had something in the Philippines file that he was undesirable and was sent back via the airline he came on. He did not state where he came from. It could have been a mistaken identity. He did not find out what it was. Once you are refused entry you are taken to a holding place until the next arranged departing flight is ready for you to board.[/QUOTE]Correct. I'm Canadian and I have no troubles here. In fact I just travelled to several other countries including the us using my nexus / global entry access. There are no stamps in my passport denoting the blacklist. I simply had to pay for a night in the transit hotel and flew out the next morning. No holding cells, just a guy who escorted me around when I wanted to go eat and such. I tried to ask politely what the reason behind the blacklist was and the immigration officials simply ignored me. Like I said, no big deal. I travel around anyway so if anything this will allow me to see more of the world since I had allocated a good chunk of travel time to Philippines. Thank you everyone for your input. Oh and no I did not have to pay for my flight out. And I flew in from another country in Asia as I was traveling around. I obviously had no troubles getting back into that country or the other countries immediately after.
[QUOTE=Toronto;2294440]Correct. I'm Canadian and I have no troubles here. In fact I just travelled to several other countries including the us using my nexus / global entry access. There are no stamps in my passport denoting the blacklist. I simply had to pay for a night in the transit hotel and flew out the next morning. No holding cells, just a guy who escorted me around when I wanted to go eat and such. I tried to ask politely what the reason behind the blacklist was and the immigration officials simply ignored me. Like I said, no big deal. I travel around anyway so if anything this will allow me to see more of the world since I had allocated a good chunk of travel time to Philippines. Thank you everyone for your input. Oh and no I did not have to pay for my flight out. And I flew in from another country in Asia as I was traveling around. I obviously had no troubles getting back into that country or the other countries immediately after.[/QUOTE]If it were me, I'd want to know why I was blacklisted and would write to the Phils embassy like Goferring suggested. Even if you have no plans to return to the Phils, at least you'll know why. And if it does turn out that some vicious c*nt was responsible, please post it.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2294448]If it were me, I'd want to know why I was blacklisted and would write to the Phils embassy like Goferring suggested. Even if you have no plans to return to the Phils, at least you'll know why. And if it does turn out that some vicious see*nt was responsible, please post it.[/QUOTE]I don't know if the embassy would be able to provide me that info but out of curiosity I would be willing to pay couple hundred bucks if that was enough for some lawyer in Philippines to find out the reason.
[QUOTE=Toronto;2294440]Correct. I'm Canadian and I have no troubles here. In fact I just travelled to several other countries including the us using my nexus / global entry access. There are no stamps in my passport denoting the blacklist. I simply had to pay for a night in the transit hotel and flew out the next morning. No holding cells, just a guy who escorted me around when I wanted to go eat and such. I tried to ask politely what the reason behind the blacklist was and the immigration officials simply ignored me. Like I said, no big deal. I travel around anyway so if anything this will allow me to see more of the world since I had allocated a good chunk of travel time to Philippines. Thank you everyone for your input. Oh and no I did not have to pay for my flight out. And I flew in from another country in Asia as I was traveling around. I obviously had no troubles getting back into that country or the other countries immediately after.[/QUOTE]I realise you have to be vague but.
1. As you were not scheduled to fly out on the plane you flew out on, you should have been charged a change of flight fee for that.
2. You failed to find out who blacklisted / flagged you and why.
3. You may have no legal trouble in Canada but it is possible someone has trouble with you and ratted you in. You must find out who grassed you up.
4. Did they give you a copy of anything you had to sign as, per a PDF attachment to an earlier post, that would give you an indication of the category you fell under.
5. On the very limited information you gave, it was probably one of the Pinays or their relatives but, as you give only very general, not specific information, advice can only be very general and of not much use.
6. The Pinoy Embassy in Canuckland won't care about this and are not worth contacting. Nor are lawyers in Pinoyland.
7. Your only hope for progress would have been if the Cancuk cops had been involved. If they are not, better not to approach them.
8. The key thing for me would be to find out if there is a grass in Canuckland or wherever you hang out. For the rest, write iot off and don't bring hookers overseas ffs.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2294541]I realise you have to be vague but.
1. As you were not scheduled to fly out on the plane you flew out on, you should have been charged a change of flight fee for that.
2. You failed to find out who blacklisted / flagged you and why.
3. You may have no legal trouble in Canada but it is possible someone has trouble with you and ratted you in. You must find out who grassed you up.
4. Did they give you a copy of anything you had to sign as, per a PDF attachment to an earlier post, that would give you an indication of the category you fell under.
5. On the very limited information you gave, it was probably one of the Pinays or their relatives but, as you give only very general, not specific information, advice can only be very general and of not much use.
6. The Pinoy Embassy in Canuckland won't care about this and are not worth contacting. Nor are lawyers in Pinoyland.
7. Your only hope for progress would have been if the Cancuk cops had been involved. If they are not, better not to approach them.
8. The key thing for me would be to find out if there is a grass in Canuckland or wherever you hang out. For the rest, write iot off and don't bring hookers overseas ffs.[/QUOTE]Per the airline, the immediate return flight was sold out and they put me on the next days flight. I was given no paperwork and signed nothing. I gave general info because I myself have no clue what happened. I have no problems in Canada unless speeding ticket counts as trouble. As I said I was recently renewed on nexus / global entry, that would never happen if I had any legal issues in Canada or the us. And yes bringing girls outside Philippines was clearly a poor choice.
[QUOTE=Toronto;2294911]Per the airline, the immediate return flight was sold out and they put me on the next days flight. I was given no paperwork and signed nothing. I gave general info because I myself have no clue what happened. I have no problems in Canada unless speeding ticket counts as trouble. As I said I was recently renewed on nexus / global entry, that would never happen if I had any legal issues in Canada or the us. And yes bringing girls outside Philippines was clearly a poor choice.[/QUOTE]So you signed nothing and your passport was not stamped so no paper trail to follow up on.
Why had you not got to pay for the flight change?
So you flew out the next day? Were you kept in a holding cell? Did you exchange notes / converse with anyone?
Until you can be more specific and narrow down the reason and who may have done you in, there is no hope.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2294995]So you signed nothing and your passport was not stamped so no paper trail to follow up on.
Why had you not got to pay for the flight change?
So you flew out the next day? Were you kept in a holding cell? Did you exchange notes / converse with anyone?
Until you can be more specific and narrow down the reason and who may have done you in, there is no hope.[/QUOTE]Sorry twisted and still confused Pedro. Mr. Toronto did answered all your questions.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2294995]So you signed nothing and your passport was not stamped so no paper trail to follow up on.
Why had you not got to pay for the flight change?
So you flew out the next day? Were you kept in a holding cell? Did you exchange notes / converse with anyone?
Until you can be more specific and narrow down the reason and who may have done you in, there is no hope.[/QUOTE]As dg8787 pointed out answers to your questions are in my posts but I will entertain you. Yes no stamp and I signed nothing, why would I sign anything? In cases like this airlines are responsible and since the immediate return flight was supposedly sold out they simply changed my existing return ticket for the next day. This was obviously not a voluntary change by me and I was never asked to pay. No holding cell, I already explained that I paid for the room in the transit hotel. Who would I exchange notes with? Other guests in the transit hotel? Yes many casual conversations with various people, just not with immigration officials who had no desire to entertain my request to find out the reason for blacklist. Are you satisfied now Pedro?
[QUOTE=Toronto;2294911]Per the airline, the immediate return flight was sold out and they put me on the next days flight. I was given no paperwork and signed nothing. I gave general info because I myself have no clue what happened. I have no problems in Canada unless speeding ticket counts as trouble. As I said I was recently renewed on nexus / global entry, that would never happen if I had any legal issues in Canada or the us. And yes bringing girls outside Philippines was clearly a poor choice.[/QUOTE]You said in the past, that you had signed paperwork to get your Pinay out of the country. I had to do similar last year when visiting Malaysia with my GF. I suspect they thought I was might have been trafficking my GF, and that she was going to work overseas for me.
They questioned in great detail how long we had known each other, where we met etc.
I would suspect your Passport details are flagged not on the Canadian side, but on the Philippines side. It could well be that a jealous previous GF has said something to stop you coming back and visiting the competition.
A new passport may not fix that, as it could be as simple as your name and nationality. My boss used to get stopped all the time going into the US, because he shared the same name as an IRA terrorist.
As you were denied entry, I would not have expected you to pay any more for your ticket, the airline get told to sort that out.
Personally, I would not try and go back, it may not be quite as friendly next time.
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[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2294241]This a post from Manila thread.
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[QUOTE=PBtoCobra;2295614]You said in the past, that you had signed paperwork to get your Pinay out of the country. I had to do similar last year when visiting Malaysia with my GF. I suspect they thought I was might have been trafficking my GF, and that she was going to work overseas for me.
They questioned in great detail how long we had known each other, where we met etc.
I would suspect your Passport details are flagged not on the Canadian side, but on the Philippines side. It could well be that a jealous previous GF has said something to stop you coming back and visiting the competition.
A new passport may not fix that, as it could be as simple as your name and nationality. My boss used to get stopped all the time going into the US, because he shared the same name as an IRA terrorist.
As you were denied entry, I would not have expected you to pay any more for your ticket, the airline get told to sort that out.
Personally, I would not try and go back, it may not be quite as friendly next time.[/QUOTE]The signing of BI affidavits is nothing new it happens all the time. I have even seen the idiots in passport control ask a married Dutch couple with kids to sign it (the husband that is) - he was most indignant and totally pissed off with them (and let them know also).
I lean more towards some jealous ex GF as this is the crazy thing they can do as passport control / BI believes her as she is pinay not fact or bother to investigate. Many cases in other areas where this has happened.
Sometimes a new passport is the trick (certainly is in other countries) as many systems work on the passport number but I for one would want to know as you have a legal right to be told and I am a nosey parker LOL.
So I have been reading stories of guys esp expats and guys who do multiple visits to the Philippines getting freebies and having stables of hot girls who they just call up and they come running.
When I went to Cebu I use Pinalove with little success. Started about a month before lining up acquaintances and doing the ground work. 95% were time wasters who promised a lot but wouldn't show.
Now I appreciate if you are based there than yes this is possible as many girls see you as possible ticket to financial freedom but some posters seem to say all you have to do is point and they will fall over themselves to satisfy you.
So given I have had 3 trips to the Philippines and am pretty presentable I didn't find girls fighting to get me into bed. Walking around Ayala Mall I only had 2 occasions when girls would give me the eye and a conversation would start. I am definitely not shy and believe I have a pretty good "game" as some websites would have you call it.
So what's the go? Is this all big noting BS? Is it just a case of more experienced mongers or Ex pats just relaying their stories which have taken years to establish this sort of network?
For me from the West prices are rock bottom compared to here so I don't mind paying but it seems attractive as the reports seem to tell about semi pros who I have had better experiences with.
Anything that I should be doing. When you read posts of guys having multiple girls at their beck and call 24/7 for no money you get a bit suspicious.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2295984]. When you read posts of guys having multiple girls at their beck and call 24/7 for no money you get a bit suspicious.[/QUOTE]It has taken me a few years to build the harem and there is constant turnover and they all want money between visits.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2295984]but some posters seem to say all you have to do is point and they will fall over themselves to satisfy you.[/QUOTE]Who said that? It is just like talking to a chick anywhere else if you ask me. It took 4 years before my exgirlfriend in AC would even go out with me.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2295984]
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When I went to Cebu I use Pinalove with little success. Started about a month before lining up acquaintances and doing the ground work. 95% were time wasters who promised a lot but wouldn't show.
Now I appreciate if you are based there than yes this is possible as many girls see you as possible ticket to financial freedom but some posters seem to say all you have to do is point and they will fall over themselves to satisfy you.
So given I have had 3 trips to the Philippines and am pretty presentable I didn't find girls fighting to get me into bed. Walking around Ayala Mall I only had 2 occasions when girls would give me the eye and a conversation would start. I am definitely not shy and believe I have a pretty good "game" as some websites would have you call it.
So what's the go? Is this all big noting BS? Is it just a case of more experienced mongers or Ex pats just relaying their stories which have taken years to establish this sort of network?
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[/QUOTE]Many repeat visitors, myself included, find weeks or months of pre work online a total waste of effort. I don't even send a message now until I'm sitting in a hotel in PH.
In many ways mongering is just like courting back home. A lot of the guys' success depends on who he is targeting and if he acts appropriately. Yes, hookers will meet up at the drop of a hat but civilians may take a couple or multiple dates before anything happens.
No disrespect intended but your post reeks of desperation and girls can smell that from miles away. This often leads to over charging, underperformance, a general Princess syndrome or even outright rejection. It may pay to go for someone more professional or even lower your standards upon arrival just to get rid of the deer in the headlights look that everyone arrives with. You can then just relax and get on with the job in a relaxed manner. I always seem to gave the best encounters late in my trips, when the pressure is off and I'm not desperate to bed any girl that says Hello.
See below for some of my experiences online. I'm reasonably active online so feel free to search through my posts for success and failure stories.
Enjoy and good luck. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2121543]I'm currently in Subic having a lot of good fortune with PinaLove and FilippinoCupid.
I questioned a PL girl about how she uses the dating software......[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Goferring;2267691]That's it, I'm soooo done putting in ground work on the online hookup sites!
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[QUOTE=NewImage;2295984]So I have been reading stories of guys esp expats and guys who do multiple visits to the Philippines getting freebies and having stables of hot girls who they just call up and they come running. SNIP
but some posters seem to say all you have to do is point and they will fall over themselves to satisfy you.[/QUOTE]Many of mine are often doing just that. Size of your wallet might be more important than your game, especially for newer gals. Later, after she gets to know you, your personality might be more important to her than your wallet.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2295984]Is it just a case of more experienced mongers or Ex pats just relaying their stories which have taken years to establish this sort of network?[/QUOTE]Somewhat, yes. Establishing that kind of network takes many years, its different with each girl.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2296011]
Somewhat, yes. Establishing that kind of network takes many years, its different with each girl.[/QUOTE]With social connections as important as they are in Asia, the value of references from other girls cannot be overestimated.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2295984]So what's the go? Is this all big noting BS? Is it just a case of more experienced mongers or Ex pats just relaying their stories which have taken years to establish this sort of network?
For me from the West prices are rock bottom compared to here so I don't mind paying but it seems attractive as the reports seem to tell about semi pros who I have had better experiences with.
Anything that I should be doing. When you read posts of guys having multiple girls at their beck and call 24/7 for no money you get a bit suspicious.[/QUOTE]To answer your entire post I would have to sit here and pretty much type a handbook out. Although I love to share my experience, I am not sure I am ready to sit here and type out an entire handbook at this time.
But to get to the point, nothing is ever for free. You have a motive, she has a motive, what we are playing with is the time between your first meet, and the time it takes for her to unravel her plan. Basically you are taking advantage of her set up time, to achieve your objectives. Once she gets to the point in her plan where you have to make choices, well you have to either make choices or scheme to lengthen things out. So yes, in a sense it is free, but no one is that selfish, we do things for them, buy them things, just to feel less guilty about what we are doing, its human nature.
What I can offer you is this: you have to have a very specific objective, only then will you be able to target what you want. If you have a very specific objective, pm me, and I can give you some options.
I suppose what I have gleamed both from your responses and my observations is that there are 2 main types of mongers just like our sessions with the WG's. LT and ST.
LT' ers have the time to invest in the intricacies of ground work & hunting. Building rapport and a sort of friendship with the girls and developing a relationship that long term will bring mutual benefit. Both parties know they have a consistent supply of what they want (men = sex, girls = money) even though for the later it may be at a reduced rate. Both parties subscribe to the bird in the hand analogy.
ST'ers do not have the time to invest in developing these long term mutually beneficial relationships and as such must bear the cost and ebb and flow of the mongering lifestyle.
Totally agree with Mr Gof that it appears social networking of the girls is most important re referrals and reputation and spending time on those dating sites in my experience is of little use although his comment about desperation did make me chuckle somewhat. All good.
Very soon I will have my 4th trip to KL where I feel quite comfortable. Maybe I should keep in touch with the girls I meet rather than scrubbing them from my phone due to possible complications with my SO at home.
Maybe then too in the future I may be able to speak about my harem of go to girls.
Appreciate every ones feedback.
NI.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2296084]Very soon I will have my 4th trip to KL where I feel quite comfortable. Maybe I should keep in touch with the girls I meet rather than scrubbing them from my phone due to possible complications with my SO at home.[/QUOTE]Don't fuck up home messing with these hoes. Write the numbers backwards and write the names in code and keep them in some obscure folder on your computer.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2296011]Many of mine are often doing just that. Size of your wallet might be more important than your game, especially for newer gals. Later, after she gets to know you, your personality might be more important to her than your wallet.
Somewhat, yes. Establishing that kind of network takes many years, its different with each girl.[/QUOTE]In certain countries like Philippines and Thailand it does not take long as long as you are generous with cash. We as mongers are looking for sex with different women even if we have certain interest in one woman. Always looking for new smell, new body, new attitude. Fortunately there are poor women to go after.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2296190]In certain countries like Philippines and Thailand it does not take long as long as you are generous with cash. We as mongers are looking for sex with different women even if we have certain interest in one woman. Always looking for new smell, new body, new attitude. Fortunately there are poor women to go after.[/QUOTE]Yes. Always craving, always hunting, and always lusting for the fresh fuck meat. That is what it means to monger. The idea of one woman is ridiculous to a monger. There is no one woman to feed the hunger for fuck.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2295984]
So what's the go? Is this all big noting BS? Is it just a case of more experienced mongers or Ex pats just relaying their stories which have taken years to establish this sort of network?
When you read posts of guys having multiple girls at their beck and call 24/7 for no money you get a bit suspicious.[/QUOTE]I just spent two months in the PI and split my time between pros, non-pros and semi-pros. I spent a month in Makati doing nothing but non-pros and semi-pros. I was really trying to stick to non-pros but sometimes you don't know which they are until after you get them into bed. It was a BIG investment in time and I invested a lot of time in a few girls I could not get into bed. One very hot hot hot girl after spending the day together for lunch and then dinner, coming over my apartment, taking a shower, putting on my t-shirt and getting into bed with me would not put out. She eventually told me she had some chump Japanese BF who showered her with support and never wanted sex and that was what she was looking for LOL. After that I was ready to pack it in and head to AC and then I met a 20 why / o horny college GND type who came over every day for 'lunch' while her Aunt (who she was visiting in Manila) was at work. She never asked for for money until after I return to the US and I had to change her designation from non-pro to semi-pro LOL.
So I also got lucky a couple times and found a girl I could get into bed with minimum time investment. One incredible hot 21 year old I met in AC on WeChat (usually which has nothing but pros) literally jumped right into bed with me, spent two weeks with me and never asked for anything and acted like I was a prince when I gave 5 k as an early Christmas present (after sleeping with me for two weeks). I will also say I am very happy to have great sex with a 6 or 7 and tend to avoid the 8's, 9's and 10's and they often just aren't as good in bed and usually take a lot more work to get into bed. The 21 WeChat AC girl was easily a 9, sometimes the universe just smiles on you.
I have read a few reports from guys who do make it sound like there are a ton of girls in the PI who line up to sleep with them for nothing and I suspect from my experiences those guys are exaggerating. They want to stoke their own egos, just like a 14 year old boy who in High School who grossly exaggerates what he does with girls. I have a friend who reports regularly on the Jakarta board and because I know him I know everything he posts is a huge exaggeration. I traveled to Jakarta based on his reports and later his personal advice and while I love Jakarta was disappointed to find out the level of his exaggeration. It ok, he still provided some very valuable advice and I have a lot of fun in Jakarta nonetheless.
So its simple, 90% of Filipinas are good Catholic girls that want nothing to do with a 'pervert'. That still leaves millions of girls that are available with the correct approach. Many non-pros take a time investment that may or may not pay off. If you work the numbers, sometimes you get lucky and find a horny or desperate girl that is willing to jump right into bed with you no promise of anything. Sometimes you might just have great chemistry with a girl. I agree with another poster who correctly states the girls will smell desperation on you and that will greatly inhibit your success. Even with a 'non-pro' understand from her perspective she is playing a scratch off lottery ticket hoping it will pay off. BTW I always found a way or excuse to give a girl some money, be it an early Christmas present, grossly inflated taxi fare or money to buy presents for her kids. I evaluated the 'pro' level of the girl based on how she reacted to this gift.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2294114]Interesting. Is there a way one can find out before boarding the inbound flight is he is blacklisted as such?
Also 2 x in the last year a check-in agent (once in US, once in Asia) swiped my PP, took a long look at the computer screen, and informed me that I could not board the outbound flight from US to Phils. Reason: There was no return flight listed on their computer (no phils outbound), and I did not have a pre-approved 59-day visa (their computers caught this). In reality I had outbound flights on other airlines, but past the 30- and 59-day limits. Both agents told me I could not proceed. [/QUOTE]The last few times I went to the PI (or Indonesia) I did not have my travel plans (past my stays in Manila or AC) planned before I left. I really like just staying until I get bored and then moving on LOL. Before I left home, I have always bought a refundable ticket for onward travel within 30 days, printed the e_ticket and then cancelled. Takes 5 minutes. Every time I left the US, the was required to show (the already cancelled e-ticket) to the gate agent before I could board my outbound flight. I was prepared to show it to immigration entering but was never asked for it. Leaving Singapore on Scoot bound for Clark I was also required to show that (already) cancelled e-ticket. I was just careful not to book it on the same airline thinking the gate agent could not look up the ticket to see if it was still valid, though doubt they would go that far.
[QUOTE=Toronto;2294094]I was recently denied entry at Manila airport for being on the blacklist. I was given no explanation or reason and I left on the next flight out. I have no idea how I got on the list as I have no criminal background, never broke any laws during my previous trips and have no problems entering other countries. The only thing I can think of is one of my long term girls that I have cut off recently making some false reports to authorities. Some of those girls probably have my info because I have taken them on trips abroad and in some cases I had to sign forms at immigration to get them out. Can anyone recommend a good lawyer that can help me with this? Is it even fixable? Or should I just forget about Philippines? Thanks in advance for any help.[/QUOTE]The PI remains one of my favorite places in the world and I'd be sad if I could no longer go there. I guess good the allegation was not so serious that you where taken into custody. For me it would be worth it to investigate and see if I could get the ban lifted, at least worth a call or two an a local immigration attorney to ask how much to investigate and possibly fix. There is a facebook group Manila Foreigners Club where you might be able to get some advice on lawyers but be careful, some shady characters on there. Look for an expat who has a lot of valid and useful postings to give you a referral.
Past that good cautionary tale about sharing your info with a local girl. I love taking girls traveling especially to places where local talent is either scarce or costly like Japan. Now I guess I got to rethink that. Also will tighten up on how much info I share with local girls. Its something I have known I need to be more careful about but have gotten sloppy.
Met this Manila girl on Tinder but she was such an obvious scammer my spidey sense was tingling and I declined to meet her. Before I blocked her she started throwing threats that she was have me banned by immigration, get me fired from my job (which is funny as I am retired) and ruin my life. I got the distinct impression this kunt had done this before, but she didn't really have enough information about me.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2295984]So I have been reading stories of guys esp expats and guys who do multiple visits to the Philippines getting freebies and having stables of hot girls who they just call up and they come running.
When I went to Cebu I use Pinalove with little success. Started about a month before lining up acquaintances and doing the ground work. 95% were time wasters who promised a lot but wouldn't show.
Now I appreciate if you are based there than yes this is possible as many girls see you as possible ticket to financial freedom but some posters seem to say all you have to do is point and they will fall over themselves to satisfy you.
So given I have had 3 trips to the Philippines and am pretty presentable I didn't find girls fighting to get me into bed. Walking around Ayala Mall I only had 2 occasions when girls would give me the eye and a conversation would start. I am definitely not shy and believe I have a pretty good "game" as some websites would have you call it.
So what's the go? Is this all big noting BS? Is it just a case of more experienced mongers or Ex pats just relaying their stories which have taken years to establish this sort of network?
For me from the West prices are rock bottom compared to here so I don't mind paying but it seems attractive as the reports seem to tell about semi pros who I have had better experiences with.
Anything that I should be doing. When you read posts of guys having multiple girls at their beck and call 24/7 for no money you get a bit suspicious.[/QUOTE]Part of life is to weed out the bull shxtters.
Free always cost. Most times free is more expensive than the retail price.
People have selective accounting. They forget to add in the other costs.
Reminds me of a broke friend who always wins at the casinos. He would regale about the big jackpots that he would hit and that he always wins at the casinos. Upon further questioning he would acknowledge that he put all the winnings back into the machines and go home broke. To me that is not winning. To him, he always wins at the casinos!
End of the day, he is still a loser.
[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2296221]The last few times I went to the PI (or Indonesia) I did not have my travel plans (past my stays in Manila or AC) planned before I left. I really like just staying until I get bored and then moving on LOL. Before I left home, I have always bought a refundable ticket for onward travel within 30 days, printed the e_ticket and then cancelled. Takes 5 minutes. Every time I left the US, the was required to show (the already cancelled e-ticket) to the gate agent before I could board my outbound flight. I was prepared to show it to immigration entering but was never asked for it. Leaving Singapore on Scoot bound for Clark I was also required to show that (already) cancelled e-ticket. I was just careful not to book it on the same airline thinking the gate agent could not look up the ticket to see if it was still valid, though doubt they would go that far.[/QUOTE]Airlines use two major back end system to manage bookings. If you had chosen two airlines, for instance, both using Amedeus, then they could check the validity.
Why not just cancel once you are in Ph? At least you didn't fraudulently offer 'valid' documents.
BD.
I've been reading this forum for a while and used to be an active contributor to the HK section but now live in a place where the mongering scene info is on web sites other than this one.
I will read this forum carefully of course. I'm trying to lay the groundwork for a trip to the Phils later this year. Probably at Christmas. I've never been before and speak basically no Tagalog except maganda. I'll be in a hotel and without a local cell unless you guys tell me to get one.
I'm in my 40's and in ok shape. Which city do I go to for freebies and how do I set them up? Some people swear by online like DIA or FilipinoCupid. Others roam the malls. Would like to hear the opinions of those with their feet on the ground.
I am willing to pay of course, but the seduction of a freebie is a huge part of the pleasure for me.
Long live the Philippines.
I was at a concert in HK once and the lead singer asked are there any Filipinas in the crowd? And a few raised their hands and gave the WOOOOOOOO! Shout. And the singer just said God bless the Filipinas. And everyone knew what he meant. This is why I need to visit.
[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;2296882]I will read this forum carefully of course. I'm trying to lay the groundwork for a trip to the Phils later. Would like to hear the opinions of those with their feet on the ground. I am willing to pay of course, but the seduction of a freebie is a huge part of the pleasure for .[/QUOTE]There is no need to overthink or over plan this (unless you're really bored). Just do what you wished you could do at home or anywhere else: start talking to any girl that catches your eye. In the Philippines, you don't have to be fearful of being accused of sexual harassment.
[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2296746]Airlines use two major back end system to manage bookings. If you had chosen two airlines, for instance, both using Amedeus, then they could check the validity.
Why not just cancel once you are in Ph? At least you didn't fraudulently offer 'valid' documents.
BD.[/QUOTE]Interesting I had wondered about this. Generally I cancel right away because I'm concerned about forgetting to cancel it and getting stuck with the fare. Also I usually use Orbitz which allows you to cancel most air tickets in 24 hours easily with no charge. To get a regular refundable ticket (up until departure) is often much more expensive which shouldn't matter as long as I cancel. Still I doubt with a long line of passengers waiting to board the agent is going to leave their post to look up anything. I'm more worried about immigration which I guess could charge me with presenting a 'fraudulent' document. Still the risk has to be really small, I have never even been asked for it and don't know if they even have access to those systems.
[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2296746]Airlines use two major back end system to manage bookings. If you had chosen two airlines, for instance, both using Amedeus, then they could check the validity.
Why not just cancel once you are in Ph? At least you didn't fraudulently offer 'valid' documents.
BD.[/QUOTE]Expedia, travelocity and other on line booking sites allow free cancel in 24 hours for many trips. I book a ticket, anywhere as long as it can be canceled, just before I get my boarding pass to come here then cancel as soon as I clear customs and immigration. There is a slight danger of getting delayed en route that would make a trip from North America or Europe take more than 24 hours but you can always cancel and rebook on the delay layover.
I just never want to be put in a position to lie to immigration or customs anywhere, even in the developed world you have far fewer rights than you may think you have until the customs and immigration people clear you into the country.
Of course now with an SRRV I don't worry about onward tickets anymore.
Now we have had numerous discourse on the paucity of some part of the Philippine higher education system including comment on never get the girl to do HRM and Tourism courses (I agree). Some know this way better than I do but I have some experience also.
But what about the flight attendant schools who offer it seems a 2 year course to help the cuties be an air hosty? Seems plenty schools around some in the provinces.
I ask as some I have been chatting with say they are going to do this but my initial; reaction is many are too small and don't meet the height qualification let alone is this really a proper education and will it really be recognized by Cebu Pac, Air Asia, or other big carriers. For me the answer is no as the larger carriers (eg Emirates, Cathy etc) have their own recruitment policy and test and would pay scant attention to a 'degree or diploma' from a provincial Philippine establishment.
Maybe others have first hand knowledge but my instinct is to tell them be careful find a proper qualification.
Just asking LOL.
After this tragedy in Ethiopia, I couldn't thinking about my recent trip around Asia. I am pretty sure I flew on at least 1 Boeing 737 Max.
What is going to happen if they are all grounded for a length of time? May be pricier or harder to get into our favorite pussy hunting grounds.
[QUOTE=Free2;2297378]After this tragedy in Ethiopia, I couldn't thinking about my recent trip around Asia. I am pretty sure I flew on at least 1 Boeing 737 Max.
What is going to happen if they are all grounded for a length of time? May be pricier or harder to get into our favorite pussy hunting grounds.[/QUOTE]Here is a list so you can check.
[URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/11/africa/max-8-operations-roundup-intl/index.html[/URL]
Most Asian carries appear not to use the plane with Southwestern (USA) being the biggest user. Some Chinese carriers do as does Silk Air but Cebu Pac, Air Asia and others don't. Lion Air of course have some in use.
US is domestic flights are full of those planes. Less so for long haul international. Go Cathay or other Airbus heavy stables for intraAsia.
[QUOTE=Free2;2297378]After this tragedy in Ethiopia, I couldn't thinking about my recent trip around Asia. I am pretty sure I flew on at least 1 Boeing 737 Max.
What is going to happen if they are all grounded for a length of time? May be pricier or harder to get into our favorite pussy hunting grounds.[/QUOTE].
I would ask the school how many graduates get a job with an airline. Not the internship or practical training but a real job. Many PI girls lack the English skills to get a job. Also, Asian airlines sometimes require more language skills. The US granny magnet airlines don't have that language requirement but they don't like non US crew. LOL!
FWIW, many flight attendants I know did not go to technical schools specializing in flight attendancy skills. Sourness is not a requirement in Asia. For some reason many are blessed with pretty faces on top of a tall thin curvy body. Darwinism at work?
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2297305]But what about the flight attendant schools who offer it seems a 2 year course to help the cuties be an air hosty? Seems plenty schools around some in the provinces.[/QUOTE]
I was reading some reports about cp in other threads, but thought I would write a general reply here in the general info. Here are my thoughts:
Have a dedicated phone for your travel adventures, never use your home phone for your interaction abroad. As soon as you get to your place of stay, store it away safely with your passport. Cp's can easily be lost, damaged, or stolen and chances are your primary cp has a lot of apps, contacts, correspondence, and data that would not be good to go missing. It is normally quite expensive, and has a lot of info that you don't want to get public. Very seriously think about getting a dedicated travel phone.
Load all the apps you need on your dedicated phone, so you don't need to pull your primary out to do anything but check stuff back home in private.
A CP in manila is like the status symbol. A cp in PI is like a car back home. Initial impressions of yourself will come from the way you look, dress, speak, reside, and what cp you use. Take careful consideration when selecting your cp.
Absolutely buy a cp that has dual SIM. Preferable dual SIM independent of external storage. Some cp has SIM1 and SIM2/ external storage. It would be best to have a cp that can use both SIM slots and the external storage. It is important to have 2 SIM slots so that you will be able to get 2 cp numbers, 1 in Globe (most popular among girls) and the other in Smart. The reason for this is that texting across networks cost pesos, so some girls will not text you if you are not on the same network. Also depending upon location some networks are stronger or has better LTE which is necessary for wifi. Make sure your cp has personal hotspot so you can use and share wifi.
Obviously a higher status cp would be better, but because it is your travel cp, might not be the best plan to invest a lot into the secondary cp. If you do not view it feasible to invest so much capital into a iphone, samsung or huawei (my personal dedicated travel phone). You can purchase a good phone in manila (not normally available in the US). The girls there can help you select a good phone, they know what is popular and what works well there. Some cps not designed for the US market work better in PI than high end phones in the US. There are cp specifically designed to work within PI. 2 of the most popular cp there are VIVO and OPPO, also I would look at xiaomei. Remember for status symbol cp it does not matter which cp is better, it only matters which cp is perceived to be better or more popular. A copy cp might work if you want to stay economical, the copy samsungs will fool most, but the copy iphones are not that good, you can find class a copies made in Korea or vietnam to be pretty good. Do not buy the China copy phones, as I have not seen any China copy that is any good yet. If you are new, and or need a little help getting started, a status cp can initially help if you are darker skin tone or could possibly be mistaken for a local. If you find yourself not getting much attention you can always pull out your cp and use it, then place it on the table for others to see or create interest by calling over a waitress (use english) and asking her to help take a selfie (the flash will make you noticed).
Make sure to purchase your SIM card in the most current configuration (4 G and LTE) and the correct size. Choose store all info on both SIM and phone or if not able to do both, choose store info on SIM, but occasionally clone SIM to phone, and set up a google, or yahoo account to your dedicated phone and back up data to their cloud. It is very important to keep all your contacts, as they are normally good for many years.
BUY a promo plan. 1 day, 1 week, 15 days, or 30 days, whatever fits your stay, make sure to buy an unli promo plan. The instructions will come with your SiM card, or use the internet, the SIM management app, *143#, or any girl with a cp can help you with the promo. Buy enough load so that you can purchase the correct promo and join ASAP.
Turn on location and start using all of your social media apps, and boom.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2297417]I would ask the school how many graduates get a job with an airline. Not the internship or practical training but a real job. Many PI girls lack the English skills to get a job. Also, Asian airlines sometimes require more language skills. The US granny magnet airlines don't have that language requirement but they don't like non US crew. LOL!
FWIW, many flight attendants I know did not go to technical schools specializing in flight attendancy skills. Sourness is not a requirement in Asia. For some reason many are blessed with pretty faces on top of a tall thin curvy body. Darwinism at work?[/QUOTE]Good question to ask am sure the answer won't be not very many. Many that I know have a college degree and applied directly and went through hat carrier's recruitment process.
That and the height requirement of many carriers would mean many are ineligible for jobs although I read somewhere that Cebu Pacific had lowered the height requirement some time back. For me these 'schools' are means of conning vulnerable cuties who dream of being an air hostie out of their parents (or mongers) hard earned cash. Lot of promises but little substance.
Does anyone have any more info on Cebu Pacific expanding its flights to Australia?
Direct flights into Clark or Cebu could be dangerous. 🤤.
Airline Ratings: Cebu Pacific expands single-aisle horizons to Australia.
[URL]https://www.airlineratings.com/news/cebu-pacific-expands-single-aisle-horizons-australia/[/URL]
IMHO, language is key. Learn English. Then Chinese, Japanese, Spanish. IMHO, it is a scam but kind of hard to dash a girl's dream.
The upper deck does not necessarily need to be occupied but the lights need to be on Especially bright lights to shine through the two windows. HEh Heh.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2297496]Good question to ask am sure the answer won't be not very many. Many that I know have a college degree and applied directly and went through hat carrier's recruitment process.
That and the height requirement of many carriers would mean many are ineligible for jobs although I read somewhere that Cebu Pacific had lowered the height requirement some time back. For me these 'schools' are means of conning vulnerable cuties who dream of being an air hostie out of their parents (or mongers) hard earned cash. Lot of promises but little substance.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2297496]Good question to ask am sure the answer won't be not very many. Many that I know have a college degree and applied directly and went through hat carrier's recruitment process.
That and the height requirement of many carriers would mean many are ineligible for jobs although I read somewhere that Cebu Pacific had lowered the height requirement some time back. For me these 'schools' are means of conning vulnerable cuties who dream of being an air hostie out of their parents (or mongers) hard earned cash. Lot of promises but little substance.[/QUOTE]How many of these schools are there? How many students are there? What is the turnover rate at the Philippine companies? If there is very little turnover then your chances of getting a job are slim to none. If there is a big turnover, why would you try to go into it in the first place knowing the chances of you staying in it are slim?
In the US it works differently, where you get a job with the company then they train you. In most countries though, there are schools that you must attend before applying.
If it is one of these situations:
This week announced plans to hire more than 1,000 flight attendants in the next year. And although it received more than 270,000 applications for flight attendant jobs last year.
Then draw your own conclusion.
[URL]http://fortune.com/2018/08/15/delta-flight-attendant-job/[/URL]
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2297496]Good question to ask am sure the answer won't be not very many. Many that I know have a college degree and applied directly and went through hat carrier's recruitment process.
[/QUOTE]The first requirement is a college degree from an accredited university (quote from an airline HR representative who I know).
They then train the recruits in their own school.
Freelance flight attendant training schools are a scam. Don't fall for them.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2297407]US is domestic flights are full of those planes. Less so for long haul international. Go Cathay or other Airbus heavy stables for intraAsia.[/QUOTE]To say that US domestic is full of these planes is a bit of a stretch. In the two years the 737 MAX has been in production, 350 have been delivered worldwide. To inject some proportion, the Big 3 US airlines { Delta, American and United } all have total fleets well in excess of 1000. Southwest has a fleet of approximately twice the number of total deliveries, all of which are Boeing 737 family. This is not a long haul aircraft, unless you consider US transcontinental, California-Hawaii or the western fringe of Europe to the northeast US as longhaul.
Cathay is a poor example, as they fly zero wide-bodies, but maintain a {proportionally} quite large fleet of Boeing 777 and 787's.
Airbus also had problems with the introduction of the A320 neo {new engine option} approx. 12-18 months ago as the Pratt & Whitney engine version suffered a high rate of in-flight engine shutdowns.
Hello,
I have seen many post about the way to spend holidays with a Phil girl in another country, and some troubles that could arise at customs or police checks when leaving Phil.
I understand that if you pay her ticket and travel together, then police can ask many questions about how long do you know her, why, when, etc.
But I wonder if another scenario is possible.
What if we pay for her ticket, and ask her to travel alone and meet her in the other country, I am speaking mainly about SEA countries, like Cambodia, Bali, Vietnam, etc. ?
Is police checking why she can travel? To meet who? Who paid for her ticket? Etc. Or will she able to travel on her own if she has the right valid passport?
And I experienced also that when you pay for her, with your foreign credit card, there are checkings in the travel company system that could reject your payment for possible fraud (may be suspicion of stolen card) as it happens once for me for a local flight with Cebu Pacific. So inthat case, to avoid that, my idea would be to go to Phil first, buy the ticket with cash and with her to a travel office, and then travel on same flight, but witout showing that we are together, so she will travel on her own, with her ticket and passport.
Do you think this will work?
Do you think its still possible to just pay for ticket from abroad and wait for her at destination outside phil?
Many question there. But your experience will be appreciated.
[QUOTE=Transporter;2297457]I was reading some reports about cp in other threads, but thought I would write a general reply here in the general info. Here are my thoughts:
Have a dedicated phone for your travel adventures, never use your home phone for your interaction abroad. As soon as you get to your place of stay, store it away safely with your passport. Cp's can easily be lost, damaged, or stolen and chances are your primary cp has a lot of apps, contacts, correspondence, and data that would not be good to go missing. It is normally quite expensive, and has a lot of info that you don't want to get public. Very seriously think about getting a dedicated travel phone.
Load all the apps you need on your dedicated phone, so you don't need to pull your primary out to do anything but check stuff back home in private.
A CP in manila is like the status symbol. A cp in PI is like a car back home. Initial impressions of yourself will come from the way you look, dress, speak, reside, and what cp you use. Take careful consideration when selecting your cp.
Absolutely buy a cp that has dual SIM. Preferable dual SIM independent of external storage. Some cp has SIM1 and SIM2/ external storage. It would be best to have a cp that can use both SIM slots and the external storage. It is important to have 2 SIM slots so that you will be able to get 2 cp numbers, 1 in Globe (most popular among girls) and the other in Smart. The reason for this is that texting across networks cost pesos, so some girls will not text you if you are not on the same network. Also depending upon location some networks are stronger or has better LTE which is necessary for wifi. Make sure your cp has personal hotspot so you can use and share wifi..[/QUOTE]Pretty sensible advice re phones. Almost all SIMs sold in Phils now will be LTE so one less thing to be worried about. Get a Smart and Globe SIM if you have a dual sim phone as Sun is the same group co as Smart. OPPO specializes in having a relative good camera fro the price point, its sister company Vivo was initially supposed to optimise sound quality. Both tend to be weak on battery life. Personally I prefer Xiaomi which is good bang for the buck and offers some models such as the Mi Max with outstanding battery life.
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2297667]But I wonder if another scenario is possible.
What if we pay for her ticket, and ask her to travel alone and meet her in the other country, I am speaking mainly about SEA countries, like Cambodia, Bali, Vietnam, etc. ?
Is police checking why she can travel? To meet who? Who paid for her ticket? Etc. Or will she able to travel on her own if she has the right valid passport?
And I experienced also that when you pay for her, with your foreign credit card, there are checkings in the travel company system that could reject your payment for possible fraud (may be suspicion of stolen card) as it happens once for me for a local flight with Cebu Pacific. So inthat case, to avoid that, my idea would be to go to Phil first, buy the ticket with cash and with her to a travel office, and then travel on same flight, but witout showing that we are together, so she will travel on her own, with her ticket and passport.
Do you think this will work?.[/QUOTE]Is a lottery as you may have read from earlier posters. IMHO if you with her then better because if alone more chance of offload, especially if she has never travelled overseas before. The is for me is the rule of thumb on this matter.
At the airport you will be asked and then sign a affidavit which is basically useless but sign it which says she will come back etc. I have signed but never taken it seriously.
Have on the phone some photos of you and her, have a back story and if they ask for her Facebook page she says she not have etc as they will look there also maybe to see if you and her are an item.
Sounds complicated as it is a lotter. Never had an issue myself but know countless who have and some single travellers who breezed through.
You can PM me for more details but good luck.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2297652]The first requirement is a college degree from an accredited university (quote from an airline HR representative who I know).
They then train the recruits in their own school.
Freelance flight attendant training schools are a scam. Don't fall for them.[/QUOTE]That was my thought so now to tell her in a nice way as she thinks this is the passport to the world as she has been sold this junk message by the school.
Thanks RK.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2297496]Good question to ask am sure the answer won't be not very many. Many that I know have a college degree and applied directly and went through hat carrier's recruitment process.
That and the height requirement of many carriers would mean many are ineligible for jobs although I read somewhere that Cebu Pacific had lowered the height requirement some time back. For me these 'schools' are means of conning vulnerable cuties who dream of being an air hostie out of their parents (or mongers) hard earned cash. Lot of promises but little substance.[/QUOTE]It reminds me of the Beauty Pageants where every girl is a winner; you only have to pay the huge entrance fee. And then the make up fees, and the other fees.
[QUOTE=ShiningWit;2297664]To say that US domestic is full of these planes is a bit of a stretch. In the two years the 737 MAX has been in production, 350 have been delivered worldwide. To inject some proportion, the Big 3 US airlines { Delta, American and United } all have total fleets well in excess of 1000. Southwest has a fleet of approximately twice the number of total deliveries, all of which are Boeing 737 family. This is not a long haul aircraft, unless you consider US transcontinental, California-Hawaii or the western fringe of Europe to the northeast US as longhaul.
Cathay is a poor example, as they fly zero wide-bodies, but maintain a {proportionally} quite large fleet of Boeing 777 and 787's.
Airbus also had problems with the introduction of the A320 neo {new engine option} approx. 12-18 months ago as the Pratt & Whitney engine version suffered a high rate of in-flight engine shutdowns.[/QUOTE]787 were grounded for a while.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2297698]That was my thought so now to tell her in a nice way as she thinks this is the passport to the world as she has been sold this junk message by the school.
Thanks RK.[/QUOTE]In most Asian countries, 'air hostess' is a most coveted, glamorous position. In addition to beauty, height and a college degree, applicants may also need to know someone on the inside who can make sure their application gets through. In places like India and Thailand, money also needs to be paid to influence the decision makers. Thai air hostesses are often daughters of senior military officials or politicians. Have you seen these girls with their two-tone, lady Datejusts? Real, not fake.
Emirates first class has two dedicated toilet / shower cleaners onboard the A380. These cleaners are called Cabin Service Assistants (as opposed to Cabin Crew). Their tasks are to manage the shower bookings, explain how the shower works and scrub the toilets, so the rich can crap in a clean place. These girls are paid a third of what cabin crew get, so make about USD $800 a month including allowances. They get reduced flight pay, and have to share their hotel room while away (whereas cabin crew get their own rooms). Their entitlements in Dubai are also a lot less.
The interesting thing is that almost all of theses flying toilet cleaners are Pinays! No one else would the job for so little money. They usually have nursing or hospitality degrees. There is almost no prospect for them to get promoted to cabin crew. I guess they can still fuck rich passengers while in foreign ports and dream of migrating to the west.
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2297667]Do you think this will work?
Do you think its still possible to just pay for ticket from abroad and wait for her at destination outside phil?
Many question there. But your experience will be appreciated.[/QUOTE]The chances are stacked against you. If it's your first time to do this, the non-educated province girl is an inexperienced traveller, you are paying her ticket, all of these things are adding to the likelihood that it will NOT work.
What has been demonstrated in the forum is the following:
Men with their pinay GF can and do leave the country together successfully.
Experienced mature girls do leave the country successfully.
I was trying to bring a Filipina to my country, she's smart and educated. Had to help her with her visa application. Even she got stuck very quickly on the immigration questions.
If you do want a Filipina to travel with you, the only proven way is to swing by into Philippines and travel with her.
BD.
[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2297733]It reminds me of the Beauty Pageants where every girl is a winner; you only have to pay the huge entrance fee. And then the make up fees, and the other fees.[/QUOTE]Correct. That's why girls will proudly announce that they are Ms Environment, Ms Tourism or similar. It's basically just whatever title they could think up for the day.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2297887]In most Asian countries, 'air hostess' is a most coveted, glamorous position. In addition to beauty, height and a college degree, applicants may also need to know someone on the inside who can make sure their application gets through. In places like India and Thailand, money also needs to be paid to influence the decision makers. Thai air hostesses are often daughters of senior military officials or politicians. Have you seen these girls with their two-tone, lady Datejusts? Real, not fake.[/QUOTE]The role is also highly coveted for its access marrying well. Korean Air is a good example where hosties are absolute goddesses, many of whom end up marrying first class passengers.
[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2297733]It reminds me of the Beauty Pageants where every girl is a winner; you only have to pay the huge entrance fee. And then the make up fees, and the other fees.[/QUOTE]Fees for small provincial out of the way pageants were above PHP20000! I was told this many times but someone whose niece was a contestant and was trying o raise cash to pay her gown, shoes, hair, make up, plus other extras like 'how to stand properly'. Could not believe the bola that I was told about why they needed cash for all the different things. After the pinay won Miss World or Universe (not sure of the difference and don't care) Philstar headline was that she had 59 people to support her including an eyebrow plucker person! This is where we need lots of laughing emojis.
And the pressure the parents are under also to find ways and means to pay it. But pageants are a big thing for pinays where many will drool at the pageants on TV and as you said they have so many different titles. The newspapers will proudly proclaim yet another pinay winner is yet another obscure unheard of until now event LOL.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2297895]The role is also highly coveted for its access marrying well. Korean Air is a good example where hosties are absolute goddesses, many of whom end up marrying first class passengers.[/QUOTE]They've all had plastic surgery to look like that. It's not natural beauty. Korean girls without surgery and make up just look like average, ordinary girls.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2297895]The role is also highly coveted for its access marrying well. Korean Air is a good example where hosties are absolute goddesses, many of whom end up marrying first class passengers.[/QUOTE]Never heard that before. Are we talking about KAL Flight Attendants?
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2297911]They've all had plastic surgery to look like that. It's not natural beauty. Korean girls without surgery and make up just look like average, ordinary girls.[/QUOTE]Never heard that before also. Have flown KAL many times. KAL F-A's all look the same: tall, thin, gawky, legs so long they bow inward at the knees, many are as tall as I am. Average-good faces. Over the years I keep having the same thought: Certainly KAL must able to find *some* lookers, right? I see better looking Korean girls (hotties, really) traipsing around Manila. All the KAL girls have such a similar look that I assume they are chosen based on body type (former tall high school or college basketball or volleyball players who were not able to make the cut at the next higher level).
I google-imaged 'pretty Korean girls' (see pics) and got pics that don't look like KAL F-A's. When I think of pretty Korean girls, I think Momoland, not KAL. KAL F-A's are also well-trained and seasoned, giving great cabin service.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2297951]Never heard that before. Are we talking about KAL Flight Attendants?[/QUOTE]Yes.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2297951]Never heard that before also. Have flown KAL many times. KAL F-A's all look the same: tall, thin, gawky, legs so long they bow inward at the knees, many are as tall as I am. Average-good faces. Over the years I keep having the same thought: Certainly KAL must able to find *some* lookers, right? [/QUOTE]Clearly we've been on different planes. 😁.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2297887]In most Asian countries, 'air hostess' is a most coveted, glamorous position. [/QUOTE]What is so glamorous about picking up people's trash and smelling them shit all day long?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2297963]What is so glamorous about picking up people's trash and smelling them shit all day long?[/QUOTE]40 years ago US airlines had glamourous stewardesses. Air Asia has some glam now.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2297974]40 years ago US airlines had glamourous stewardesses. Air Asia has some glam now.[/QUOTE] yes very true
SQ girls' reputations precede them. I have had high times with the gulf airline girls. They are soooooo tall.
I would not object if the Pianys also clean my pipes; whether on the ground or in the air.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2297887]These girls are paid a third of what cabin crew get, so make about USD $800 a month including allowances. They get reduced flight pay, and have to share their hotel room while away (whereas cabin crew get their own rooms). Their entitlements in Dubai are also a lot less.
The interesting thing is that almost all of theses flying toilet cleaners are Pinays! No one else would the job for so little money. They usually have nursing or hospitality degrees. There is almost no prospect for them to get promoted to cabin crew. I guess they can still fuck rich passengers while in foreign ports and dream of migrating to the west.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2297963]What is so glamorous about picking up people's trash and smelling them shit all day long?[/QUOTE]Some of your questions are quite stupid Mr E. Most young Asian girls still think it's quite cool to serve people at 35,000 feet, while still looking beautiful. We are not talking about those old hags at Qantas, American or United.
Ground level pays less than at 30,000 feet.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2297963]What is so glamorous about picking up people's trash and smelling them shit all day long?[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2297951]Never heard that before. Are we talking about KAL Flight Attendants?
Never heard that before also. Have flown KAL many times. KAL F-A's all look the same: tall, thin, gawky, legs so long they bow inward at the knees, many are as tall as I am. Average-good faces. Over the years I keep having the same thought: Certainly KAL must able to find *some* lookers, right? I see better looking Korean girls (hotties, really) traipsing around Manila. All the KAL girls have such a similar look that I assume they are chosen based on body type (former tall high school or college basketball or volleyball players who were not able to make the cut at the next higher level).
[/QUOTE]Don't know about you Westie, but I'd fuck 'em.
[QUOTE=ShiningWit;2297664]
Cathay is a poor example, as they fly zero wide-bodies, but maintain a {proportionally} quite large fleet of Boeing 777 and 787's.
[/QUOTE]Any airplane with two aisles is wide-bodied. Cathay's fleet of A330, A350 and 777 is all wide-bodied. They opted for the A350 instead of the 787.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2297974]40 years ago US airlines had glamourous stewardesses. .[/QUOTE]I think a lot of them are still on the job. LOL.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2298025]Don't know about you Westie, but I'd fuck 'em.[/QUOTE]"we still got two out of three branches of the government workin' for us, and that ain't bad" - Jack Nicholson, movie Mars Attacks.
The three in front yes, the two in back, not. And I'm not picky (have posted a few chubsta pics). They are tall / thin, I will give it that. But for most KAL F-A's, in the back of my mind is that old joke about putting a bag over her head while banging her. All of the girls in that pic are pretty ED, but none of them rise to goddess level. Flew a fully loaded A380 recently, and of the 15-ish F-A's onboard, would have been glad to have 2/3 of them. Was not aware that they would be prized by rich guys. None of the girls in that pic (7's & 8's, nice!) rise to the level of the Google-searched K girls pics I posted (opinion). Is it because the F-A's hair is up, and the other pics the hair is down?
ED do you say that the F-A's are surgically cut? Just to get looks for the job?
[QUOTE=ShiningWit;2297664]To say that US domestic is full of these planes is a bit of a stretch. In the two years the 737 MAX has been in production, 350 have been delivered worldwide. To inject some proportion, the Big 3 US airlines all have total fleets well in excess of 1000. Southwest has a fleet of approximately twice the number of total deliveries, all of which are Boeing 737 family. This is not a long haul aircraft, unless you consider US transcontinental, California-Hawaii or the western fringe of Europe to the northeast US as longhaul.[/QUOTE]The 737 family has been a domestic mainstay in the US for decades, facing competition from the A-319/20 for a decade. They are similar mid-distance aircraft in the US (both domestic and internationally to central America, the Caribbean). Southwest has their entire fleet of 737's (over 700).
[QUOTE=ShiningWit;2297664]Cathay is a poor example, as they fly zero wide-bodies, but maintain a {proportionally} quite large fleet of Boeing 777 and 787's.[/QUOTE]I'm with ED. Have flown Cathay Pacific across the pond a number of times, always on wide-body aircraft, 747 and 777 twin-aisle aircraft. Have never flown across the Pacific on a single-aisle aircraft. Once, on a Cathay 747 across the Pacific, there were only about 25 customers. I was shocked that there were almost as many F-A's on the plane as customers. After the first meal, I asked a F-A why bother flying the plane with so few passengers, why not just cancel the flight (what a money-loser! She explained that even with no passengers, the plane must fly. Some regulation about the 'route is already paid'. Also, the plane was needed in Hong Kong to pick up the passengers there to fly back to the US.
[QUOTE=ShiningWit;2297664]Airbus also had problems with the introduction of the A320 neo {new engine option} approx. 12-18 months ago as the Pratt & Whitney engine version suffered a high rate of in-flight engine shutdowns.[/QUOTE]I read recently that Cebu Pacific is picking up a new batch of A320 NEO's (think the article said 30+ aircraft), which will be flown outside of Philippines. The new engines are more fuel-efficient, saving pesos and flying the plane farther on a tank of gas.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2298044]Was not aware that they would be prized by rich guys. [/QUOTE]Like the girls think serving customers at 35 K feet while still looking pretty is cool, some rich blokes might think picking up a chick at 35 K feet is cool, no matter how she looks without all the make up.
And, I know several people who have more money than brains.
[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2298064]And, I know several people who have more money than brains.[/QUOTE]To prove my point.
[URL]https://philippineslifestyle.com/japanese-tourist-stabbed-pampanga/[/URL]
Of course, I don't know him!
[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2298064]Like the girls think serving customers at 35 K feet while still looking pretty is cool, some rich blokes might think picking up a chick at 35 K feet is cool, no matter how she looks without all the make up.[/QUOTE]A rich man f*cks 8's, dates 9's and 10's, and marries what he dates. No need to punch (or marry) down.
Thanks to all answers received on this topic.
All of you seems to be on the same page, a girl travelling outside phil for 1st time have very few chances, if not one, to be authorized to cross the border at airport.
Thats was also my feeling after reading your posts about these topics.
So, either we travel inside the country, as I did last January, or I come there and fly with her to another country with all advices you give about the best way to cross border, photos, money, back ticket, proof of knowledge on chats, etc.
Its still a bit strange for me why a Fil girl cannot be free to travel, but that could be also understandable due to the context there, may be.
Thanks anyway for your answers once again.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2298040]Any airplane with two aisles is wide-bodied. Cathay's fleet of A330, A350 and 777 is all wide-bodied. They opted for the A350 instead of the 787.[/QUOTE]Whoops! Old age is causing confusion. Mea culpa.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2298056]The 737 family has been a domestic mainstay in the US for decades, facing competition from the A-319/20 for a decade. They are similar mid-distance aircraft in the US (both domestic and internationally to central America, the Caribbean). Southwest has their entire fleet of 737's (over 700).[/QUOTE]True. But the only model affected by the grounding is the latest MAX model. If I recall, SWA has 34, American has 24 and United has just a handful. In any case, they comprise just a small percentage of the fleet. But with Spring Break in full swing, the grounding comes at an inopportune time.
If the Ethiopian loss was caused by the same malfunction as the Lion Air, then the pilots and / or company (for failing to train their pilots) are at fault as well as Boeing, IMHO. There have been established procedures for stopping the plane from automatically pitching down, required to be recalled from memory without referencing any manual, that have been in effect since I flew the 737 in the 90's. Although the cause may be different in the latest models, the procedure remains the same.
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2298043]I think a lot of them are still on the job. LOL.[/QUOTE]You beat me too it! The grandmas working the flights today are the very same Party Stews from the 70's and 80's!
I was referring to 737. But Bloomberg had this. Out of 322 737 MAX delivered:
31 Southwest.
24 American.
14 United.
For 69 roughly in the US.
They talked about a "nose down" override of pilot input on the new 737 MAX. That is bad. At take off, some planes are required to climb rapidly for environmental, geological (UA crashed into the SF hill side), traffic control reasons and others. To have a "nose down" is bad as I would assume a stall warning would go off first.
I hate the tiny Brazilian models and puddle jumpers.
[QUOTE=ShiningWit;2297664]To say that US domestic is full of these planes is a bit of a stretch. In the two years the 737 MAX has been in production, 350 have been delivered worldwide. To inject some proportion, the Big 3 US airlines { Delta, American and United } all have total fleets well in excess of 1000. Southwest has a fleet of approximately twice the number of total deliveries, all of which are Boeing 737 family. This is not a long haul aircraft, unless you consider US transcontinental, California-Hawaii or the western fringe of Europe to the northeast US as longhaul.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2298025]Don't know about you Westie, but I'd fuck 'em.[/QUOTE]I'm very partial to them and I think they're overall the hottest flight attendants I've ever seen. Yes, many have had their noses / eyes done, but that's so common in Korea with most ladies. Had a lady friend years ago who used to work for KAL. Competition was so fierce to get a job there was a "casting couch" of sorts that was used as a determining factor. She banged a few frequent fliers over the years as they would lavish gifts on her. She made a lot of money but KAL tends to force them out once they get old (over 30).
[QUOTE=Bushes;2298199]They talked about a "nose down" override of pilot input on the new 737 MAX. That is bad. At take off, some planes are required to climb rapidly for environmental, geological (UA crashed into the SF hill side), traffic control reasons and others. To have a "nose down" is bad as I would assume a stall warning would go off first..[/QUOTE]When they say the feature does a "nose down" that's relative to the current angle of attack. So if the aircraft is on it's way to stalling, it pushes forward to reduce the rate of climb. Pilots can override it, two of them (so far) just forget how.
Meanwhile on the subject of flight attendants. For me they are always chatty, tell me lots, are polite, might add me on wechat but I can never pin them down.
Best I had was a check-in agent.
Oh well, one day.
BD.
[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2298132]You beat me too it! The grandmas working the flights today are the very same Party Stews from the 70's and 80's![/QUOTE]Used to do a bit of work with AA aircrew in Sydney a few years ago. Some looked like they had been recruited from a retirement home.
Scary part was some of them would hit me for dates. Guess the passengers weren't interested.
I don't know of too many planes designed for level flight in a "nose down" position, except maybe the Concorde. Heck, I think even superman usually flies "nose up". Maybe ironman too.
There was a news article that mentioned qualifying from 733 to max required one hour simulation on an iPad. I sure hope they were not using the same app I am.
[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2298374]When they say the feature does a "nose down" that's relative to the current angle of attack. So if the aircraft is on it's way to stalling, it pushes forward to reduce the rate of climb. Pilots can override it, two of them (so far) just forget how.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bushes;2298857]I don't know of too many planes designed for level flight in a "nose down" position, except maybe the Concorde. Heck, I think even superman usually flies "nose up". Maybe ironman too.
There was a news article that mentioned qualifying from 733 to max required one hour simulation on an iPad. I sure hope they were not using the same app I am.[/QUOTE]It's interesting to note that only airlines from shithole countries like Indonesia and Ethiopia have managed to crash a 737 Max. Boeing marketed the 737 Max on the basis that no additional simulator time was needed for pilots when changing over from the 737-800. The only requirement was that pilots watch a 50 minute video on their iPad. This video didn't even cover the new MCAS. Most of the sales of the 737 Max have been to shithole countries with India, Mexico, Indonesia, China and Ethiopia being the largest buyers. The fact that shithole airlines didn't need to install a new simulator and converting pilots didn't need five rides with a check captain meant huge cost savings.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2299011]It's interesting to note that only airlines from shithole countries like Indonesia and Ethiopia have managed to crash a 737 Max. Boeing marketed the 737 Max on the basis that no additional simulator time was needed for pilots when changing over from the 737-800. The only requirement was that pilots watch a 50 minute video on their iPad. This video didn't even cover the new MCAS. Most of the sales of the 737 Max have been to shithole countries with India, Mexico, Indonesia, China and Ethiopia being the largest buyers. The fact that shithole airlines didn't need to install a new simulator and converting pilots didn't need five rides with a check captain meant huge cost savings.[/QUOTE]I read today that a MAX Sim won't even be available until the end of the year. I understand that the MCAS system was an add-on after the test pilots found the aircraft had "unusual" stall characteristics. Boeing didn't expand on the details but it was bad enough for them to make a crappy add-on system, without fully disclosing the new system to the pilots. In hiding this information, it is apparent that Boeing values profit over safety. If I was the FAA, I'd make Simulator training on both the MAX deep stall envelope and the MCAS system mandatory before allowing the planes to fly again. Boeing would develop that simulator really quickly if it cut into deliveries.
You'd probably get 6-8 pilots qual-ed in a four hour sim session.
Sorry for the detour!
Well, to be fair, the Lion Air Captain was Indian and not Indonesian. The Ethiopian Airline Captain looks Kenyan. I am not sure but google is your friend. Indian Airline pilots got a bad reputation because it was said that some pilots paper cockpit windows with newspapers to block out the sun during flight. I remember a picture of a cockpit windows covered up and a captain with his bare feet up. Actually very hard to do.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2299011]It's interesting to note that only airlines from shithole countries like Indonesia and Ethiopia have managed to crash a 737 Max. Boeing marketed the 737 Max on the basis that no additional simulator time was needed for pilots when changing over from the 737-800. The only requirement was that pilots watch a 50 minute video on their iPad. This video didn't even cover the new MCAS. Most of the sales of the 737 Max have been to shithole countries with India, Mexico, Indonesia, China and Ethiopia being the largest buyers. The fact that shithole airlines didn't need to install a new simulator and converting pilots didn't need five rides with a check captain meant huge cost savings.[/QUOTE]
That was an issue pointed out by Bloomberg or WSJ. The previous admin moved the FAA inspectors to literally under Boeing's roof and staff. Hence Trump telling Boeing he was going to cancel the 5 Billion new AirFoxxeOXX and creating a lot of tension.
[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2299223]If I was the FAA,
Sorry for the detour![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bushes;2299227]Hence Trump telling Boeing he was going to cancel the 5 Billion new AirFoxxeOXX and creating a lot of tension.[/QUOTE]Did not understand, can you background AirFox thing and explain that some?
[QUOTE=Bushes;2299225]Well, to be fair, the Lion Air Captain was Indian and not Indonesian. The Ethiopian Airline Captain looks Kenyan. I am not sure but google is your friend. Indian Airline pilots got a bad reputation because it was said that some pilots paper cockpit windows with newspapers to block out the sun during flight. .[/QUOTE]The theory is that many of these third world pilots flying for fast growing foreign airlines lack the experience of their counterparts in the WEST because they learned to fly mostly in simulators not in real planes. Thus, they do not have sufficient number of hours actual flight time and most particularly with these new Boeings.
Since most of the time a modern commercial jet will practically fly itself, this is not an issue, but on rare occasions when a problem or conflict with the software arises, especially on takeoff, as may very likely have been the case with these 2 recent Boeing crashes where quite likely an unlucky, inexperienced pilot who was not proficient enough or confident enough to know that he should have just turned off the god damn automatic pilot and flown the plane himself until the problem was over, thus avoiding the crash, which is exactly what most experienced Western pilots would of, could of easily done.
This has nothing to do with race. It is about training and the number of hours of actual flight time pilots receive before they are allowed to sit in the cockpit of a commercial jet carrying hundreds of people. Grounding the plane until this issue is settled is a good thing and will most likely save lives although it was/is highly unlikely any of these new Boeings would have crashed flying domestic US routes for the reason stated above.
Of course this is just a theory. Boeing will figure it out and in a year or two we may all be flying this plane into MNL.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2299388]The theory is that many of these third world pilots flying for fast growing foreign airlines lack the experience of their counterparts in the WEST because they learned to fly mostly in simulators not in real planes. Thus, they do not have sufficient number of hours actual flight time and most particularly with these new Boeings.
Since most of the time a modern commercial jet will practically fly itself, this is not an issue, but on rare occasions when a problem or conflict with the software arises, especially on takeoff, as may very likely have been the case with these 2 recent Boeing crashes where quite likely an unlucky, inexperienced pilot who was not proficient enough or confident enough to know that he should have just turned off the god damn automatic pilot and flown the plane himself until the problem was over, thus avoiding the crash, which is exactly what most experienced Western pilots would of, could of easily done.
This has nothing to do with race. It is about training and the number of hours of actual flight time pilots receive before they are allowed to sit in the cockpit of a commercial jet carrying hundreds of people. Grounding the plane until this issue is settled is a good thing and will most likely save lives although it was/is highly unlikely any of these new Boeings would have crashed flying domestic US routes for the reason stated above.
Of course this is just a theory. Boeing will figure it out and in a year or two we may all be flying this plane into MNL.[/QUOTE]Actually, the MCAS only activates with the autopilot disengaged. There are two switches on the throttle pedestal to cut out the electric trim, which is what the MCAS uses to trim the nose down.
If you are ever Jumpseat on a MAX, now you know.
[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2299500]Actually, the MCAS only activates with the autopilot disengaged.[/QUOTE]I know what you mean. When the MCAS has to tell the Autopilot how to fly then that would be a worry.
Will be interesting to hear the facts of the event. The co-pilot had 200 hours. In commercial airline terms that is so low.
In the Philippines context, how do those young Cebu Pacific and PAL guys get experience? There is bugger all civil aviation industry. In Australia the young guns go west to the outback, or go get their hours in the mountains of PNG. I'm sure similar in ISA and Europe.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2299011]It's interesting to note that only airlines from shithole countries like Indonesia and Ethiopia have managed to crash a 737 Max. Boeing marketed the 737 Max on the basis that no additional simulator time was needed for pilots when changing over from the 737-800. The only requirement was that pilots watch a 50 minute video on their iPad. This video didn't even cover the new MCAS. Most of the sales of the 737 Max have been to shithole countries with India, Mexico, Indonesia, China and Ethiopia being the largest buyers. The fact that shithole airlines didn't need to install a new simulator and converting pilots didn't need five rides with a check captain meant huge cost savings.[/QUOTE]Ethiopian airlines is a well respected airline that has a history of high standards in maintenance and purchasing modern quality aircraft. They fly extensively into Europe where regulators are very strict on the standards airlines maintain. Boeing installed a shoddy system with minimal information and training. The aircraft have been sold extensively around the world so don't know what your point is about supposedly shithole countries.
[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2299546]I know what you mean. When the MCAS has to tell the Autopilot how to fly then that would be a worry.
Will be interesting to hear the facts of the event. The co-pilot had 200 hours. In commercial airline terms that is so low.
[/QUOTE]That is low. In the US, a pilot needs 1500 hours before being hired as a First Officer on a regional jet (although it is somewhat lower if he went through an approved flight academy).
I'm now reading that the Captain never did his MAX training. Couple that with an FO that is all assholes and elbows, and a poorly designed stall prevention system, and you have a chain of errors leading to a hull loss.
[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2299748]That is low. In the US, a pilot needs 1500 hours before being hired as a First Officer on a regional jet (although it is somewhat lower if he went through an approved flight academy).
I'm now reading that the Captain never did his MAX training. Couple that with an FO that is all assholes and elbows, and a poorly designed stall prevention system, and you have a chain of errors leading to a hull loss.[/QUOTE]Don't British Airways and Lufthansa still run their ab initio pilot programmes? Open to correction, but I think that 200 hours is the minimum for a Multi-crew Pilots Licence (according to Wiki the European authorities issue these) which allows commercial flying as a First Officer, with conversion to a full Air Transport Pilot Licence after a further 500 hours on a multi-crew aircraft.
Again, according to Wiki (I know) the US 1500 hours can be done instructing, para-dropping or similar in small aircraft and the flight check for an ATPL can also be done on a single engine. After that, subject to a type-rating, they are legally qualified to be First Officer on a B747.
1500 hours was a knee jerk Congressional reaction to the Colgan Airways crash near Buffalo NY. Both pilots had well over 1500 hours, but the captain had a spotty record and the First Officer commuted from her parents home in Seattle, because she could not live in New York base on her salary of, at that time, probably USD 20/25000.
With regard to ED's rant, one shitehole airline tried to get a common type rating for the 737-300 (1st flight 1984) 737-700 and 800 (Next Generation) and 737-700 and 800 MAX. This cheapskate airline is HQd in Dallas TX and is called Southwest.
[QUOTE=GDreams;2299670]Ethiopian airlines is a well respected airline that has a history of high standards in maintenance and purchasing modern quality aircraft. They fly extensively into Europe where regulators are very strict on the standards airlines maintain. Boeing installed a shoddy system with minimal information and training. The aircraft have been sold extensively around the world so don't know what your point is about supposedly shithole countries.[/QUOTE]Unless you've been living in a cave, you would agree that shithole countries have lower standards of training and certification. You can also use family connections and money to get a set of shiny aviator wings to fasten to your lapel. You can fake your log book hours. The 737 Max was particularly appealing as those shithole countries didn't need to spend more money on additional training. The bean counters would have been pleased.
The stabilizer trim runaway issue is something that all pilots should be able to cope with if they've been properly trained. No point in blaming Boeing. No western or Chinese pilot had a problem with the 737 Max.
52.2 recently, the pesos-USD exchange in Manila. Found also 52.6 later.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2299906]The stabilizer trim runaway issue is something that all pilots should be able to cope with if they've been properly trained. No point in blaming Boeing. No western or Chinese pilot had a problem with the 737 Max.[/QUOTE]Next time you're flying Ethiopian take note of your pilot's complexion. If you happen to miss a visual, you'll hear over the speaker his fine impersonation of an Australian accent.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2300295]Next time you're flying Ethiopian take note of your pilot's complexion. If you happen to miss a visual, you'll hear over the speaker his fine impersonation of an Australian accent.[/QUOTE]The two pilots involved in the crash were Ethiopian nationals. Even the left leaning Washington Post has chosen to publish this article.
[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/21/ethiopian-pilots-raised-safety-concerns-years-before-fatal-crash-records-show/?utm_term=.28f282bfd11e[/URL]
When I was in high school, Ethiopia was the poorest country on earth, thanks to the socialist policies of Mengistu Mariam. In physics class, we even had a joke. What’s the definition of speed? An Ethiopian with a MacDonalds voucher. Despite it flying brand new Dreamliners in and out of Europe, it still takes several generations to change a country’s culture and mindset regarding governance, procedures and safety.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2300572]The two pilots involved in the crash were Ethiopian nationals. Even the left leaning Washington Post has chosen to publish this article. <snip> [/QUOTE]The investigation (s) are just getting started. We will have a series of reports published in the next few months.
The first report to watch for is from the Ethiopian Government based on the black box and CVR analysis.
I would refrain from blaming the Pilots at this stage.
Ethiopia does have a stellar safety record. They are in a different league than Indonesia.
I have pasted the latest headlines in this still unfolding story.
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March 23,2019.
[URL]NYTimes.com[/URL]
TOP STORIES
"It was go, go, go. " Boeing workers describe a hectic race to update the 737 to beat a rival, a project now under scrutiny after two crashes.
Saturday, March 23,2019 2:00 PM EST.
The competitive pressure to build the jet which permeated the entire design and development now threatens the reputation and profits of Boeing, after two deadly crashes of the 737 Max in less than five months.
Prosecutors and regulators are investigating whether the effort to design, produce and certify the Max was rushed, leading Boeing to miss crucial safety risks and to underplay the need for pilot training.
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[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2300572]Despite it flying brand new Dreamliners in and out of Europe, it still takes several generations to change a countrys culture and mindset regarding governance, procedures and safety.[/QUOTE]I wonder how many generations it will take to change your mindset regarding race and 'shithole countries', as you call them.
[QUOTE=BKKguru;2300600]I would refrain from blaming the Pilots at this stage. Ethiopia does have a stellar safety record. They are in a different league than Indonesia.[/QUOTE]So true! Ethiopian Airlines is no Lion Air! They are a major international carrier that flies around the world to about 107 destinations, and a member of the Star Alliance. There aren't enough facts in yet about this crash to know what happened, and who or what was at fault. The worst commercial air crash ever involved KLM and a now defunct Pan Am, but nobody all of a sudden started attributing that to cultures that didn't appreciate governance, procedures, and safety (even though there was pilot error all over the place involving both aircraft). Ethiopian Airlines is a major, well-run carrier with an excellent safety record. It's too soon to be attributing blame at this point in the investigation. I just hope nobody tries to cover anything up.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2300727]So true! Ethiopian Airlines is no Lion Air! They are a major international carrier that flies around the world to about 107 destinations, and a member of the Star Alliance. There aren't enough facts in yet about this crash to know what happened, and who or what was at fault. The worst commercial air crash ever involved KLM and a now defunct Pan Am, but nobody all of a sudden started attributing that to cultures that didn't appreciate governance, procedures, and safety (even though there was pilot error all over the place involving both aircraft). Ethiopian Airlines is a major, well-run carrier with an excellent safety record. It's too soon to be attributing blame at this point in the investigation. I just hope nobody tries to cover anything up.[/QUOTE]You, BKKGuru and Mogwai have got to stop defending the indefensible. The whole world knows that the Ethiopia is a dirt poor nation that exports a few bags of coffee beans, and that's about it. The GDP is around $2,000 per head and most of the people still live in grim conditions. Things like civility, safety, following rules, being ethical and aspiring for success are ingrained in a country's culture. It takes years of positive reinforcement, strong leadership and national awareness before you can make a dent. When half the country is still fossicking for a few grains of wheat to eat, safety is not hugely important. This lackadaisical attitude then permeates all aspects of life. A country which was a poor, communist backwater a few years ago to now supposedly becoming a leader in aviation is a bit incongruous. Corners have been cut somewhere.
There are three emergencies a pilot needs to know how to deal with instinctively. They are rapid cabin decompression, putting out an engine fire and controlling trim runaway. Regardless of whether the autopilot kicked in or whether there was a software bug, a properly trained pilot should be able to cope with those situations. That's what they're paid to do. You know as well as me, that in developing countries, not everything goes as it should and their standards in everything are indeed lower.
Mr Cane sir, no point in even mentioning the double 747 collision in the Canary Islands as an example. The analogy is not even close. That was a communication fault between the tower, the KLM pilot and the Pan Am pilot, made worse by the deteriorating weather. The tower should have shut the airport as visibility was practically zero. The Pan Am pilot took the wrong taxiway exit and before he was off the runway, in deep fog, the KLM pilot had already reached V1. It had nothing to do with being too stupid to control the trim properly.
Mogwai, my reference to shithole countries came directly from POTUS (LOL). He used the term to describe countries that were, you know, shit.
(Go Trump 2020).
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2301102]Corners have been cut somewhere. Mr Cane sir, no point in even mentioning the double 747 collision in the Canary Islands as an example.[/QUOTE]You don't know that. You don't have any more facts about it than we do. It's just your surmise. People are saying the same kind of things right now about Allegiance and even Southwest Airlines. So, what does that say about American culture then? And I could mention so many other accidents involving airlines from so called "non-shithole" countries, but you would just find ways to rationalize it all away, mostly based on "those countries" over there are shitholes (and therefore could not possibly successfully run a major airline), while these counties over here why their shit don't stink! Wait a minute, do they even have to take a shit? Oh, and by the way, you did leave out one key fact. The KLM pilot tried to take off before he was fully cleared to do so. Man, that Dutch inattention to safety is a killer!
I was with a girl doing her doggy and looking down at her ass and saw hemorrhoids. Almost went soft at the sight. She was great in all other respects, is college educated, and has a superior job, She wants to see me again. She will not accept any form of payment, I pay for meals and taxis. I am debating about telling her I saw the protuberances and to get them surgically fixed if we are to meet again because I enjoy a little ass play and my eyes still hurt. She is fun to be with but I just can't get the picture out of my head.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2301260]I was with a girl doing her doggy and looking down at her ass and saw hemorrhoids. Almost went soft at the sight. She was great in all other respects, is college educated, and has a superior job, She wants to see me again. She will not accept any form of payment, I pay for meals and taxis. I am debating about telling her I saw the protuberances and to get them surgically fixed if we are to meet again because I enjoy a little ass play and my eyes still hurt. She is fun to be with but I just can't get the picture out of my head.[/QUOTE]Yeah, for a cornholer like me, there are few things worse than an "ugly butt hole" hahaha! Definitely a turnoff LOL!
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2301260]I was with a girl doing her doggy and looking down at her ass and saw hemorrhoids. Almost went soft at the sight. She was great in all other respects, is college educated, and has a superior job, She wants to see me again. She will not accept any form of payment, I pay for meals and taxis. I am debating about telling her I saw the protuberances and to get them surgically fixed if we are to meet again because I enjoy a little ass play and my eyes still hurt. She is fun to be with but I just can't get the picture out of my head.[/QUOTE]Thanks FT for a comment on ass and pinays not the recent plane tragedy and the pilots and error and if the country is to blame. Gents wait for the report and compare Lion and Ethiopia Airline and see what the similarities / difference are. From the untrained technical eye seems very similar but I will wait and see what the professionals say before casting aspersions etc.
Now FT.
As for the lady? You could push then back in with your todger LOL.
Or offer to pay for them to be surgical sorted out in condition you have full access after?
But I am very sure she is aware of them. I know a few pinays with that issue and all are aware and for some it is very painful but they can't have the surgery or won't have it.
Am sure if you paid she would very grateful as that is painful.
To quote an old friend who once said "Life is like a bowl of cherries. Unless you are Peter who has piles" LOL.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch. Had a visitor in town so took him for some drinks late evening. Hit LA Cafe and told about AC and zipped down P burgos. Curious as to which one he will go for at the end of the week when he will probably disappear like a submarine. Assume it will either be with a local or AC.
FT. It costs money. If you want her to do it, you will probably need to pay for it. Take her to a doctor and arrange direct payment so it does not pass through her hands and you know where the money is going. That site will be unavailable for a while and your plans might bring the condition back or if a lump with your DNA comes out of the nearby opening. Heh heh. But you could plan it a couple days before your departure in case there are complications and to make sure it is done. Good luck. Hope it all some out OK. Glad to hear you found something to your liking and a place to hang your spurs.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2301260]I was with a girl doing her doggy and looking down at her ass and saw hemorrhoids. Almost went soft at the sight. She was great in all other respects, is college educated, and has a superior job, She wants to see me again. She will not accept any form of payment, I pay for meals and taxis. I am debating about telling her I saw the protuberances and to get them surgically fixed if we are to meet again because I enjoy a little ass play and my eyes still hurt. She is fun to be with but I just can't get the picture out of my head.[/QUOTE]
As Forbes notes, [URL]AirlineRatings.com[/URL] has Air New Zealand at number 2 in the world (had been number 1 the previous 5 years): [URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericrosen/2018/11/16/the-2019-list-of-the-worlds-best-airlines-is-out-now/[/URL]#316 f1 cea470 f. And according to Apex, Air New Zealand is a 5-Star global airline: [URL]https://apex.aero/ratings2019/winners.[/URL] I tend to go with SkyTrax, but any way you cut it, there are a lot of people out there who think Air New Zealand is pretty good! I have never flown them myself, but one day I want to visit New Zealand, and I hope I can fly there in Air New Zealand!
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2301260]I was with a girl doing her doggy and looking down at her ass and saw hemorrhoids. Almost went soft at the sight. She was great in all other respects, is college educated, and has a superior job, She wants to see me again. She will not accept any form of payment, I pay for meals and taxis. I am debating about telling her I saw the protuberances and to get them surgically fixed if we are to meet again because I enjoy a little ass play and my eyes still hurt. She is fun to be with but I just can't get the picture out of my head.[/QUOTE]Discreetly say you want some ass.
Then tell her you notice that it might hurt her.
Offer to pay for Doctor to repair it.
Meanwhile buy a blindfold.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2300572]The two pilots involved y.[/QUOTE]Ethiopian Airlines is a Star Alliance member. The airline, like the country, its economy and politics is a virtual vassal state (err, close ally) of the USA. Take note of the nationalities tallied in the death flight.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2301260]I was with a girl doing her doggy and looking down at her ass and saw hemorrhoids. Almost went soft at the sight. She was great in all other respects, is college educated, and has a superior job, She wants to see me again. She will not accept any form of payment, I pay for meals and taxis. I am debating about telling her I saw the protuberances and to get them surgically fixed if we are to meet again because I enjoy a little ass play .[/QUOTE]It could be anal Warts. Be careful barebacking her. You will catch it or even rubbing your testicles will cause problem. You need to get her tested. I do not think it is hemorrhoids. If it is she would have gone to the doctor already saying there is blood coming. Warts does not bleed easily.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2301322]It could be anal Warts. Be careful barebacking her. You will catch it or even rubbing your testicles will cause problem. You need to get her tested. I do not think it is hemorrhoids. If it is she would have gone to the doctor already saying there is blood coming. Warts does not bleed easily.[/QUOTE]Well, the horse already bolted from the barn if it is indeed a spectacular case of anal warts. They are extremely contagious and life will be intolerable with a bad case of genital warts on one's nut sack. It will mean frequent visits to the doctor to have them frozen and scraped off the unfortunate nut sack, as they are incurable.
Even if the bunch of grapes hanging out of her butthole is just a bad case of hemorrhoids, the sight of it is enough to make most mongers lose wood instantly. Sadly, hemorrhoids (locally known as 'almoranas') are very common among Filipinas. You will even find girls in the 18-24 years-old range with hemorrhoid-disfigured buttholes, and they never even went through pregnancy. I suspect the Filipina love of huge quantities of white rice and the lack of safe drinking water take a huge toll on their buttholes.
I have an upcoming flight with Cebu Pacific, and online I upgraded to the nicer seat and food when I purchased the ticket with my CC. Recently I got an email from CP informing me that they have upgraded their food service, and I have several (nice) listed choices besides the boxed sandwich that I purchased previously. Nice. The email said that CP has already replaced my previous meal purchase with one of their upgrades (the email doesn't say which upgraded meal choice). They encouraged me to go online and choose a different such listed meal if I desire. For fun, I decided to do that. Once logged into my CP account and found my flight, a message popped up that says I have a balance of p150-ish. Huh? I ignored that and clicked to change my meal. The message came back up saying that I must settle up my bill before I can make any changes. OF COURSE, they have upgraded my meal (without my consent) from the cheap boxed sandwich to the upgraded nice meal, and then charged me for it (well, that's a good guess). Quite possible they are going to want me to pay that at the check-in counter at the airport before they let me proceed.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2301276]As Forbes notes, [URL]AirlineRatings.com[/URL] has Air New Zealand at number 2 in the world (had been number 1 the previous 5 years): [URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericrosen/2018/11/16/the-2019-list-of-the-worlds-best-airlines-is-out-now/[/URL]#316 f1 cea470 f. And according to Apex, Air New Zealand is a 5-Star global airline: [URL]https://apex.aero/ratings2019/winners.[/URL] I tend to go with SkyTrax, but any way you cut it, there are a lot of people out there who think Air New Zealand is pretty good! I have never flown them myself, but one day I want to visit New Zealand, and I hope I can fly there in Air New Zealand![/QUOTE]Sorry guys! I did not mean to post this here. Was jumping around between threads and thought I was in a different one. My apologies.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2301102]
Mogwai, my reference to shithole countries came directly from POTUS (LOL). He used the term to describe countries that were, you know, shit.
(Go Trump 2020).[/QUOTE]That explains a lot LOL.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2301253]Oh, and by the way, you did leave out one key fact. The KLM pilot tried to take off before he was fully cleared to do so. Man, that Dutch inattention to safety is a killer![/QUOTE]Exactly. Meanwhile we still manage to keep our feet dry here in Holland, below sea level.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2301504]That explains a lot LOL.[/QUOTE]This just in from Aviation Week and Space Technology:
Airbus Takes Aim At Inconsistent Pilot Training Quality.
"Beyond the numbers, a qualitative problem is becoming a concern, according to Jean-Michel Bigarre, head of global flight training at Airbus. "A looming pilot shortage is coupled with variation in the level of training worldwide," he tells Aviation Week.
National authorities lack uniformity in pilot training regulation. Airbus safety experts also see "strange things in poor countries where air transport is growing very fast—suspiciously quick pilot qualification and fraudulent flight-hour accounting. " They are addressing the problem at the airline level. ".
Yes! Those highly trained Western pilots with BA took off and landed at the wrong airport. Safely. I am just curious if they looked outside the window and noticed that they have not left the island; as in no water crossing. Or if they even had one of those current position flight maps shown on the in seat video entertainment system.
[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2301600]"Beyond the numbers, a qualitative problem is becoming a concern, according to Jean-Michel Bigarre, head of global flight training at Airbus. "A looming pilot shortage is coupled with variation in the level of training worldwide," he tells Aviation Week.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bushes;2301643]Yes! Those highly trained Western pilots with BA took off and landed at the wrong airport. Safely. I am just curious if they looked outside the window and noticed that they have not left the island; as in no water crossing. Or if they even had one of those current position flight maps shown on the in seat video entertainment system.[/QUOTE]It seems they were given the wrong flight plan so this was not pilot error.
[QUOTE=GDreams;2299670]Ethiopian airlines is a well respected airline that has a history of high standards in maintenance and purchasing modern quality aircraft. They fly extensively into Europe where regulators are very strict on the standards airlines maintain. Boeing installed a shoddy system with minimal information and training. The aircraft have been sold extensively around the world so don't know what your point is about supposedly shithole countries.[/QUOTE]Despite this, some "experts" have expressed alarm that the 2nd pilot allegedly had only 200 hrs flying experience.
LOL! All thanks to the boys who like to poke their finger into orifices and peeing all over the places. No offense meant to the statues!
[QUOTE=Bushes;2301643]Yes! Those highly trained Western pilots with BA took off and landed at the wrong airport. Safely. I am just curious if they looked outside the window and noticed that they have not left the island; as in no water crossing. Or if they even had one of those current position flight maps shown on the in seat video entertainment system.[/QUOTE]They were flying to the destination they (and the flight plan) were dispatched to. The third party (contracted) airline messed up the destination for the flight. The flight wasn't operated by BA.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2301276]As Forbes notes, [URL]AirlineRatings.com[/URL] has Air New Zealand at number 2 in the world (had been number 1 the previous 5 years): [URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericrosen/2018/11/16/the-2019-list-of-the-worlds-best-airlines-is-out-now/[/URL]#316 f1 cea470 f. And according to Apex, Air New Zealand is a 5-Star global airline: [URL]https://apex.aero/ratings2019/winners.[/URL] I tend to go with SkyTrax, but any way you cut it, there are a lot of people out there who think Air New Zealand is pretty good! I have never flown them myself, but one day I want to visit New Zealand, and I hope I can fly there in Air New Zealand![/QUOTE]Air NZ is a really good airline. I have flown with them a couple of times. But I don't take these ratings seriously, especially when they have a total fleet size of 64 with less than half of those in wide body aircrafts that can do long haul. How can you compare them with American behemoths with over a 1000 planes? When they get to having more than 200 planes we will see where they stand. With size and scale comes complexity and inconsistency. That is why only very very few large good businesses become great.
P.S. - They may never even get to 200 in this century, given they have been in operation since 1965!
[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2302044]Air NZ is a really good airline. I have flown with them a couple of times. But I don't take these ratings seriously, especially when they have a total fleet size of 64 with less than half of those in wide body aircrafts that can do long haul. How can you compare them with American behemoths with over a 1000 planes? When they get to having more than 200 planes we will see where they stand. With size and scale comes complexity and inconsistency. That is why only very very few large good businesses become great.[/QUOTE]I hear you man. It's just that as somebody who has flown quite a lot, I have found these ratings to be useful to me, especially the ones done by SkyTrax. If they say an airline is good, I tend to agree if and when traveling on that particular carrier. The other thing is that when you have multiple sources ranking the same airline high, then I do believe that is cause to sit up and take notice. In the end, it's always about experiencing for yourself and reaching your own conclusions. Same thing when it comes to mongering right? I think so!
[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2302044]Air NZ is a really good airline. I have flown with them a couple of times. But I don't take these ratings seriously, especially when they have a5![/QUOTE]New Zealand Air now? Ok. Their pilots get over the speaker to deliver a simple message, start yakking and don't know when to shut up. And forget about seeing the end of a movie because the last 30 minutes of the flight they're on and off the speaker, in your ear constantly. Good thing about Air NZ is the Star Alliance award ticket to get from Manila to Nadi or Pepeete via Auckland is the best deal going.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2302063]I hear you man. It's just that as somebody who has flown quite a lot, I have found these ratings to be useful to me, especially the ones done by SkyTrax. If they say an airline is good, I tend to agree if and when traveling on that particular carrier. The other thing is that when you have multiple sources ranking the same airline high, then I do believe that is cause to sit up and take notice. In the end, it's always about experiencing for yourself and reaching your own conclusions. Same thing when it comes to mongering right? I think so![/QUOTE]Completely agree. I fly a lot too (it's tiring after a point) and I think Skytrax is a very credible source for airline rankings.
One would assume that they had to walk by a big ole sign by the jetway saying "BA3271 to Dusseldorf". Maybe also being allowed onto the plane by a counter staff standing in front of another big ole sign. Then again, I have a lot of problems reading Germany, especially in Germany with the street names. LOL!
[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2302003]They were flying to the destination they (and the flight plan) were dispatched to. The third party (contracted) airline messed up the destination for the flight. The flight wasn't operated by BA.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mogwai;2301927]It seems they were given the wrong flight plan so this was not pilot error.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Bushes;2301982]LOL! All thanks to the boys who like to poke their finger into orifices and peeing all over the places. No offense meant to the statues![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mogwai;2301508]Exactly. Meanwhile we still manage to keep our feet dry here in Holland, below sea level.[/QUOTE]Not really coming to their defence, but I would assume that is actual flying time on the MAX. On those, one would spend most of the time flying through the auto pilot. Their total time flying on any type of aircraft would be more as required for a commercial license. As mentioned previously, many pilots get their hours flying in the outback. In the States, there are many places to rack up the hours in almost perfect weather. I heard some did it in close to 6 months.
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2301944]Despite this, some "experts" have expressed alarm that the 2nd pilot allegedly had only 200 hrs flying experience.[/QUOTE]From the news: A spokesperson at Edinburgh Airport said: "We're a welcoming airport that is always happy to greet visitors from all over the world to our fantastic city, but this was a surprise for us as well as them."
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2301379]You will even find girls in the 18-24 years-old range with hemorrhoid-disfigured buttholes, and they never even went through pregnancy. I suspect the Filipina love of huge quantities of white rice and the lack of safe drinking water take a huge toll on their buttholes.[/QUOTE]So you don't think Pinays would appreciate a jar of metamucil as pasalubong when I meet them? It might be better for their assholes than chocolate.
There's probably not much fiber in pagpag either.
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2301944]Despite this, some "experts" have expressed alarm that the 2nd pilot allegedly had only 200 hrs flying experience.[/QUOTE]You don't get to be an airline pilot with 200 hrs flying experience. If you mean 200 hrs on a 737, exactly hoe do you get experience if you don't fly a plane. All pilots start with 0 hrs flying experience.
You would grab the mic too if you spent most of your life talking to sheep.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2302113]New Zealand Air now? Ok. Their pilots get over the speaker to deliver a simple message, start yakking and don't know when to shut up. And forget about seeing the end of a movie because the last 30 minutes of the flight they're on and off the speaker, in your ear constantly.[/QUOTE]For various reasons, girls have a lot of problem with number 2.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2302322]So you don't think Pinays would appreciate a jar of metamucil as pasalubong when I meet them? It might be better for their assholes than chocolate.
There's probably not much fiber in pagpag either.[/QUOTE]
Have a touch of fun. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9cKBZAWhmM[/URL].
Check out number 8 hehehe: [URL]https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/04/02/the-10-best-airlines-in-the-world-in-2019-according-to-travellers/23704528/.[/URL].
[QUOTE=TheCane;2304135]Check out number 8 hehehe: [URL]https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/04/02/the-10-best-airlines-in-the-world-in-2019-according-to-travellers/23704528/.[/URL].[/QUOTE]That steak on Eva Air looks good. But I will stick with SQ for overall comfort, reliability and service quality.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2296912]There is no need to overthink or over plan this (unless you're really bored). Just do what you wished you could do at home or anywhere else: start talking to any girl that catches your eye. In the Philippines, you don't have to be fearful of being accused of sexual harassment.[/QUOTE]Thank you I appreciate it.
But some basic advice I need would be, which city to go to? Cebu? Manila?
Will it help to get a local phone?
What are the best hunting grounds? Some guys swear by the mall, others go to bars.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=JohnnyRocket;2305535]Thank you I appreciate it.
But some basic advice I need would be, which city to go to? Cebu? Manila?
Will it help to get a local phone?
What are the best hunting grounds? Some guys swear by the mall, others go to bars.
Thanks![/QUOTE]JR,
You got to read those threads and then ask better questions. The answer to your questions is yes.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2303896]Have a touch of fun. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9cKBZAWhmM[/URL].[/QUOTE]This Australian guy's language skills are amazing. Tagalog and Bisaya! He has quite a following and am sure he makes a decent living from Google money. His wife is pretty lucky to get picked out from a pool of a million or so. LOL.
Lots has been said about how bad this though a few with odd taste buds think the fare cooked up here has culinary quality and taste LOL.
This article tries to spin the food into something you must try / bucket list but IMHO some of the list would put you six feet under before the bucket list was completed LOL.
[URL]https://philippineslifestyle.com/seven-foods-must-try-philippines/[/URL]
Am sure I read somewhere Filipino food ranked near last on some foodies list but I am not sure when / if I read it or just my dislike of most of the food. Lechon is fine but there the list can end many times for me LOL.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2307165]Lots has been said about how bad this though a few with odd taste buds think the fare cooked up here has culinary quality and taste LOL.
This article tries to spin the food into something you must try / bucket list but IMHO some of the list would put you six feet under before the bucket list was completed LOL.
[URL]https://philippineslifestyle.com/seven-foods-must-try-philippines/[/URL]
Am sure I read somewhere Filipino food ranked near last on some foodies list but I am not sure when / if I read it or just my dislike of most of the food. Lechon is fine but there the list can end many times for me LOL.[/QUOTE]I tend to agree with the general consensus that rates Filipino food near the bottom on the list of Asian cuisines, but some of it can be very tasty, it depends on who is doing the cooking. On your Magnificent 7 list I like Lechon (Suckling pig) although I think the Balinese do it best, and I like various Adobos, again if done right, but it can be a horrible dish if too vinegary and done wrong. On my maybe list is Sisig, I am not a fan, but again a good cook can make it tasty. And on my no way list, there is Balut & Tamilok. No THANK YOU!
Amazingly, the late Tony Bordain did a show on the PI a while back when he was on the Travel Network and I remember him singling out Pampanga as a great foodie province. Of course, he went to only a couple of restaurants and was entertained by some famous local chiefs that I never heard of. I wonder if Tony or his crew visited Fields Ave. Ha Ha. They probably did!
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2307165]Lots has been said about how bad this though a few with odd taste buds think the fare cooked up here has culinary quality and taste LOL.
This article tries to spin the food into something you must try / bucket list but IMHO some of the list would put you six feet under before the bucket list was completed LOL.
[URL]https://philippineslifestyle.com/seven-foods-must-try-philippines/[/URL]
Am sure I read somewhere Filipino food ranked near last on some foodies list but I am not sure when / if I read it or just my dislike of most of the food. Lechon is fine but there the list can end many times for me LOL.[/QUOTE]I would rank Mongolian food as the worst Asian food. I have been living in the Philippines for 5 months now and have lost 16 kg of weight but it is mainly through not eating carbs. I get a lot of vegetables which I don't see in Australia and meats, many which I find tasty but don't ask what they are (I have cooks prepare all my meals). The local food where I am is truly horrible, boiled fatty meats and rice but fortunately they don't make me eat that apart from celebrations.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2307256]I tend to agree with the general consensus that rates Filipino food near the bottom on the list of Asian cuisines, but some of it can be very tasty, it depends on who is doing the cooking. On your Magnificent 7 list I like Lechon (Suckling pig) although I think the Balinese do it best, and I like various Adobos, again if done right, but it can be a horrible dish if too vinegary and done wrong. On my maybe list is Sisig, I am not a fan, but again a good cook can make it tasty. And on my no way list, there is Balut & Tamilok. No THANK YOU![/QUOTE]I like sisig also. But please do NOT look up the ingredients list if you want to try the stuff. In the same way, if you find yourself in Mexico, do NOT ask your waitress: Whats that delisciosa meat in the menudo? And the street food vendors in Phils; the squigly chicken intestines on a stick! BBQ that bad boy and hope they squeezed the intestine clean prior to skewering it haha!
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2307165]
Am sure I read somewhere Filipino food ranked near last on some foodies list but I am not sure when / if I read it or just my dislike of most of the food. Lechon is fine but there the list can end many times for me LOL.[/QUOTE]Compared to other south east Asian countries it ranks among the lowest in south east asia.
Thai food is amazing its the one place that I visit JUST to eat, Lao food has french influences so the bread is actually pretty good same can be said for Vietnam. Cambodian food I personally thought was/is the most unpalatable food in South east Asia. Myanmar has some serious cleanliness issues much worst than anything you'll ever find in manila even in the slums.
The Philippines while it does not rate the lowest for me in south east asia it does however have some of the most disgusting creations that should be stricken from the country as a whole. Banana catsup spaghetti with ultra low quality extra processed hot dog, is maybe the most disgusting food I have ever had the displeasure of eating. I am purposely leaving out some of the "delicacy" BS such as Balut and Tamilok anyone with any sense should know better. The general quality of rice in the Philippines is maybe the worst quality rice I have ever eaten. ALL of the bread in the Philippines has a cup of sugar in it so all bread tastes like "king's hawaiian rolls" good for some things horrible for almost everything else. Almost all food in the Philippines has extra helping of sugar in it which makes almost all food horribly off balance and unpalatable and generally bland. There are bastions and pockets of food that is less sugar laden but they are very hard to find.
In South east asia in general I have a few rules. NEVER eat Mexican food in Asia, whatever they call mexican food offers almost 0 resemblance to what you can get in LA or Mexico, if you have eaten real Mexican food you will feel taken advantage of after ordering these overpriced abominations. If a pizza has corn or mayonnaise on it don't eat it. Do not dip your street food in to the buckets of sauce they have laying around unless you want a free helping of oral viruses.
EDIT: in the spirit of full disclosure why not explain Filipino delicacy? Kampanpangan food is suppose to be the pinnacle of Philippine food you can google "souq angeles city" I urge you to try it but that will be your first and last time most likely. Dishes like the pungent Burung Bulig = horrible, the gross Kamaru = crickets, are just not food in any traditional sense of the word. If you thought unclean chicken intestines and balut is disgusting that is still "food" there are dishes that you dont want to know exist. As a side note balut sometimes can be MANY days even weeks old reheated for days until they are sold so you as a foreigner they will off load the older balut on given that you are not a balut connoisseur .
There are some dishes I do tolerate in the Philippines namely the BBQ which is OK sweet, but for the most part their dishes are forgettable and if you compare them to anything you normally enjoy eating they do not hit the mark.
EDIT: Actually what they call Arabic food which they pronounce as A-RAY-BIK food in the Philippines is surprisingly authentic and GOOD, but would one consider this Filipino food? Shawarmas and chicken curry and yellow rice is actually very good if you like Mediterranean / middle eastern food. It tastes exactly how it should. Which is not the case for almost any food outside Filipino Muslim establishments.
I'm back in the RP after a couple of years absent. In the past, I have consumed large quantities of SanMig pilsen and SanMig Light and came to the conclusion that it was causing problems with my bowels. I would drink it anyway, just to support the local economy. The first SanMig always tasted good if ice cold. If they serve warm beer with ice cubes it tastes horrible, but you have to drink it out of respect. Drinking many SanMig (light or otherwise always left a chalky taste in my mouth).
So I started a search for good drinkable beers other than SanMig or Red Horse. At first I thought the Philippine beer situation had finally been resolved, but I was wrong.
I found Heineken but then discovered it was brewed under supervision in Laguna. It did not taste like Heineken I buy in the US.
Next I found Bud in bottles. I thought finally I nailed it. But on inspection it was Budweiser brewed under authority, in Vietnam. Bud, in a communist country we fought trying to preserve democracy? Anyway, it didn't taste like real American Bud. I know, you will be telling me Bud is owned by a Belgian company, Interbrew, but at least in the states, Bud tastes like Bud.
Then I found Stella. Once again I was disappointed. It didn't taste like the Stella we get in the US. It was made in Malaysia or Indonesia or something.
I found Tiger light, which I thought was a Malaysian beer or Singaporean beer, but it turned out to be brewed in Laguna, and was a cheaper version of SM Light. No chalky taste though, but then, no taste at all.
In a chinese or korean store close to Century City in Makati I found Bud in cans but on close inspection, other than the standard world renowned Bud label, it was all in Chinese and I couldn't read where it was brewed. I did determine it was 3. 6 % alc by volume. I tasted it and decided the sink in the CR needed the rest. I left the other three cans in the fridge for the next unsuspecting guest in the room.
On a positive note, I found real Corona Extra from Mexico. More expensive, but the real thing. Doesn't taste the same with kalamansi instead of lime though.
There are some genuine brewed in Europe beers here, like Pilsener Urquell, and various real Belgian Chimay style beers, if you go for that sort of thing.
Now, if someone could tell me where we could buy real American or even Canadian beers, I might spend less time in the CR with my SanMig irritated bowels.
I just want to pass on my experience at a bar on DC Palanca street in Makati. I dropped in for a couple of brews on a Thursday night. I noticed the San Mig draft taps and asked the server for a San Mig draft. He pointed to the sign that said San Mig draft was 2 for 1 during happy hour. I said its fine, I know happy hour is over, I'll pay the non happy hour price. He replied, you can only buy it during happy hour. I asked if they had any left, yes, he replied. I said I would pay full price. He said sorry Sir, only 2 for 1 in happy hour. Not available now. Only in the RP
Cheers.
Well, for the record. I am staying off the 737 MAX. And staying away from the 787 Dreamliner for the next 5+ years. All the below information is from the NYT, WSJ, and some videos of the FAA congressional testimony. Not sure if 100% correct but google it.
- the Ethiopian pilot had over 8,000 hours.
- Ethiopian Airline have a MAX simulator.
- about 2 weeks ago group of US pilots were at Boeing on the MAX simulator to duplicate the suspected problem that lead to Lion Air and Ethiopian Airline crashes. It was found that the pilots had to fix the problem in 40 seconds.
- a Lion Air pilot on the jump seat the day before the Lion crash resolved a similar MCAS issue.
- the MAX training and manuals did not mention the MCAS.
- Boeing was offering aircraft safety features as options. I. e. Pilot oxygen masks.
- Southwest and American opted for the MCAS warning light. United did not.
- 1 in 3 flights in the US are on a 737 variant.
- the 737 requires pilots to reference manuals to solve issues; I assume printed though could be iPad digital. Unlike newer tech whereby on screen prompts and links and check procedures are displayed and allow the person to navigate though a checklist and diagnosis procedure.
- Boeing certified for the FAA many safety checks. This came under the Obama FAA era.
- the 787 was grounded after launch because of fire / overheating and then certified safe under the same FAA / Boeing relationship.
IMHO, there is a fundamental design and flight envelope issue with the 737 MAX. As well as the 737 not having the latest safety and avionic features and designs. Not all pilots grew up as Bush pilots flying DC3's.
But to be on subject. I wonder if she is mad at me.
For FordTruck. This is what a pinay pussy and butt should look like.
Sometimes tap lines build up microbes if they are not cleaned regularly. In the PI, I doubt many are cleaned regularly. Could this be the cause of your gastric distress? Do you end up on the can when you only drink from the bottle, too?
Don't blame the server. Independent thought is frowned upon in a lot of Asian cultures. He is just doing what his boss said, even if he didn't quite understand the instructions.
But yeah, avoid draft beer. You will feel better in the mornings.
Decent beer is very subjective, but I know where you are coming from, as many years ago, SM was not doing it for me.
Since I reside in malate, the Hobbit house was my go to place for import beers, and uncommon liquor request. The Hobbit house had a huge selection of import beers my fav being imported Heineken. In the US I don't care for the taste of the Canada brewed Heineken, but the imports at the HH was from holland, and I did like those. In Makati I use to go to this bar called the 100 beer something, and it had my go to MGD. I guess the name implies that it has 100 different kinds of beer.
The Hobbit house has since closed, and I don't know about the 100 beer place, but my point is that there are imported beers in philly. Just poke your head in and ask the bartender what imported beers they have every place you walk by until you find what you are looking for.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2307820]Well, for the record. I am staying off the 737 MAX. And staying away from the 787 Dreamliner for the next 5+ years. All the below information is from the NYT, WSJ, and some videos of the FAA congressional testimony. Not sure if 100% correct but google it.
- the Ethiopian pilot had over 8,000 hours.
- Ethiopian Airline have a MAX simulator.
- about 2 weeks ago group of US pilots were at Boeing on the MAX simulator to duplicate the suspected problem that lead to Lion Air and Ethiopian Airline crashes. It was found that the pilots had to fix the problem in 40 seconds.
- a Lion Air pilot on the jump seat the day before the Lion crash resolved a similar MCAS issue.
- the MAX training and manuals did not mention the MCAS.
- Boeing was offering aircraft safety features as options. I. e. Pilot oxygen masks.[/QUOTE]I hope you know that means he hasn't been a pilot very long.
[URL]https://thepointsguy.com/news/captain-sully-sullenberger-on-737-max-crash/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Transporter;2307958]Decent beer is very subjective, but I know where you are coming from, as many years ago, SM was not doing it for me.
Since I reside in malate, the Hobbit house was my go to place for import beers, and uncommon liquor request. The Hobbit house had a huge selection of import beers my fav being imported Heineken. In the US I don't care for the taste of the Canada brewed Heineken, but the imports at the HH was from holland, and I did like those. In Makati I use to go to this bar called the 100 beer something, and it had my go to MGD. I guess the name implies that it has 100 different kinds of beer.
The Hobbit house has since closed, and I don't know about the 100 beer place, but my point is that there are imported beers in philly. Just poke your head in and ask the bartender what imported beers they have every place you walk by until you find what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]As an alternative domestic beer, have you tried Bir na Bir or Cerveza Negra?
G-Point have their own house draft brews, although I have found them a bit hit-and-miss. Tap Station, around the corner on Adriatico, is the same ownership but a regular bar with something like 14 of their own brews. Not open during the day midweek. The Dakota Bar, about 60 mtrs south on Mabini, has 2 or 4 foreign beers available, as I remember.
You could also try The Bottle Shop on Paseo de Magellanes, which has local mini-brewery beers on draft, plus imported bottles. Regular bar, but does sales for home consumption. Also appears to be another branch at Net One Center Bldg, 26th St cnr 3rd Avenue, BGC, but I have not been there.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2307820]Well, for the record. I am staying off the 737 MAX. And staying away from the 787 Dreamliner for the next 5+ years. All the below information is from the NYT, WSJ, and some videos of the FAA congressional testimony. Not sure if 100% correct but google it.
- the Ethiopian pilot had over 8,000 hours.
- Ethiopian Airline have a MAX simulator.
.[/QUOTE]But how many of those hours in a MAX?
Presumably this was the Captain. Other reports suggest the 1st Officer only had 200 hrs up, again not clarified what this represents. I don't know how much bearing this would have had on the event.
Got to admire this guys ingenuity! I am sure there is 100's of dumb girls sending him messages. Where do I get in line!? LOL.
[QUOTE=ShiningWit;2308002]As an alternative domestic beer, have you tried Bir na Bir or Cerveza Negra?
G-Point have their own house draft brews, although I have found them a bit hit-and-miss. Tap Station, around the corner on Adriatico, is the same ownership but a regular bar with something like 14 of their own brews. Not open during the day midweek. The Dakota Bar, about 60 mtrs south on Mabini, has 2 or 4 foreign beers available, as I remember.
You could also try The Bottle Shop on Paseo de Magellanes, which has local mini-brewery beers on draft, plus imported bottles. Regular bar, but does sales for home consumption. Also appears to be another branch at Net One Center Bldg, 26th St cnr 3rd Avenue, BGC, but I have not been there.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I will try some of them the next time I am in a fix for something different beer. I have come to terms with SML, and although its not great, I can drink it. What I am looking for is some Macallan.
[QUOTE=Free2;2308227]Got to admire this guys ingenuity! I am sure there is 100's of dumb girls sending him messages. Where do I get in line!? LOL.[/QUOTE]This prick thinks he's being smart. Such narcissistic behavior rarely ends well. Wait till his wife, work colleagues and friend see that post. He also leaves himself open to all sorts of blackmailers on line. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2308390]This prick thinks he's being smart. Such narcissistic behavior rarely ends well. Wait till his wife, work colleagues and friend see that post. He also leaves himself open to all sorts of blackmailers on line. Stupid, stupid, stupid.[/QUOTE]You are assuming that's his pic and name?
Why would anyone need to do I like that?
FWIW, the other shoe dropped. Several sources are now pointing to other Boeing problems. According to the NYT, a tech at the North Charleston plant that builds the 787 Dreamliner is quoted as saying it's just a safety issue and he never plans to fly on one. Boeing and FAA pushed aside many complaints and the people. Some carriers had refused delivery because of metal shavings and other stuff were found on newly delivered 787 planes. The US air force had stopped accepting delivery of the Boeing Everett built KC-46 because foreign objects like bolts and wrenches and trash were found on newly delivered planes. Google it to verify.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2307820]Well, for the record. I am staying off the 737 MAX. And staying away from the 787 Dreamliner for the next 5+ years. All the below information is from the NYT, WSJ, and some videos of the FAA congressional testimony. Not sure if 100% correct but google it.
- the 787 was grounded after launch because of fire / overheating and then certified safe under the same FAA / Boeing relationship.[/QUOTE]
There's a question I've been thinking. Please share if you know about it for general knowledge so that everyone knows. How do porn videos in Philippines can film having sex with ladies? They film the girls openly even with their face in the video. How did those guys do it? The reason why I asked is I want to film for my own memory. I have no intention to share them with anyone else since I can't do it because of my career. I understand that nobody want to be seen especially in porn video including myself. It is only for my personal use. Have anyone of you film / record video having sex with your girl? I've been wondering how do those people get the ladies to film porn video? Where do they get those ladies from? How can I do it? How I can convince girls without force to make them appear in my personal video? Any ideas guys? Looking forward for your suggestion.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2312106]FWIW, the other shoe dropped. Several sources are now pointing to other Boeing problems. According to the NYT, a tech at the North Charleston plant that builds the 787 Dreamliner is quoted as saying it's just a safety issue and he never plans to fly on one. Boeing and FAA pushed aside many complaints and the people. Some carriers had refused delivery because of metal shavings and other stuff were found on newly delivered 787 planes. The US air force had stopped accepting delivery of the Boeing Everett built KC-46 because foreign objects like bolts and wrenches and trash were found on newly delivered planes. Google it to verify.[/QUOTE]
That article also mentions that Charleston was selected as a site for the factory because of its low unionised workforce, allowing cheaper wages. There weren't many aviation qualified workers in the area, so staff was recruited from other industries.
Perhaps anyone contemplating flying in a 787 should determine in advance where it was made.
[QUOTE=MetalHorn;2312692]There's a question I've been thinking. Please share if you know about it for general knowledge so that everyone knows. How do porn videos in Philippines can film having sex with ladies? They film the girls openly even with their face in the video. How did those guys do it? The reason why I asked is I want to film for my own memory. I have no intention to share them with anyone else since I can't do it because of my career. I understand that nobody want to be seen especially in porn video including myself. It is only for my personal use. Have anyone of you film / record video having sex with your girl? I've been wondering how do those people get the ladies to film porn video? Where do they get those ladies from? How can I do it? How I can convince girls without force to make them appear in my personal video? Any ideas guys? Looking forward for your suggestion.[/QUOTE]Just ask any Girl who is selling her pussy for money.
For the right amount of piso notes some are willing to do the recording.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2313235]Just ask any Girl who is selling her pussy for money.
For the right amount of piso notes some are willing to do the recording.[/QUOTE]How much have you done it?
[QUOTE=MetalHorn;2313953]How much have you done it?[/QUOTE]Best you PM me MetalH as this is easier done on the PM system as I have contacts also but we can't share mobile numbers and contacts on the forum openly.
Look forward to the PM.
[QUOTE=MetalHorn;2312692]There's a question I've been thinking. Please share if you know about it for general knowledge so that everyone knows. How do porn videos in Philippines can film having sex with ladies? They film the girls openly even with their face in the video. How did those guys do it? The reason why I asked is I want to film for my own memory. I have no intention to share them with anyone else since I can't do it because of my career. I understand that nobody want to be seen especially in porn video including myself. It is only for my personal use. Have anyone of you film / record video having sex with your girl? I've been wondering how do those people get the ladies to film porn video? Where do they get those ladies from? How can I do it? How I can convince girls without force to make them appear in my personal video? Any ideas guys? Looking forward for your suggestion.[/QUOTE]You might want to pm me.
[QUOTE=MetalHorn;2312692]There's a question I've been thinking. Please share if you know about it for general knowledge so that everyone knows. How do porn videos in Philippines can film having sex with ladies? They film the girls openly even with their face in the video. How did those guys do it? The reason why I asked is I want to film for my own memory. I have no intention to share them with anyone else since I can't do it because of my career. I understand that nobody want to be seen especially in porn video including myself. It is only for my personal use. Have anyone of you film / record video having sex with your girl? I've been wondering how do those people get the ladies to film porn video? Where do they get those ladies from? How can I do it? How I can convince girls without force to make them appear in my personal video? Any ideas guys? Looking forward for your suggestion.[/QUOTE]Yes, you need consent from the girl. Unfortunately one of my best with a province beauty got deleted by a Chinese GF.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2313235]Just ask any Girl who is selling her pussy for money.
For the right amount of piso notes some are willing to do the recording.[/QUOTE]Some will do it (pro gratis) because it turns them on as much as it does some of us. I noticed this one Filipina watching us having sex in the mirror; so, the next time I asked if she wanted to make a movie to which she replied, "OK!" rather enthusiastically. Here's the girl and a screen grab pic.
IMHO, nothing much is going to happen till the new line is launched. Boeing is in no hurry. It just got another wad of cash last week (and did also on the first crash date). Too big to fail and too many people with vested interest.
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2312828]That article also mentions that Charleston was selected as a site for the factory because of its low unionised workforce, allowing cheaper wages. There weren't many aviation qualified workers in the area, so staff was recruited from other industries.
Perhaps anyone contemplating flying in a 787 should determine in advance where it was made.[/QUOTE]Funny, nothing more about video from metal. Must have all the information needed from PM.
[QUOTE=Docwiltro;2315774]Some will do it (pro gratis) because it turns them on as much as it does some of us. I noticed this one Filipina watching us having sex in the mirror; so, the next time I asked if she wanted to make a movie to which she replied, "OK!" rather enthusiastically. Here's the girl and a screen grab pic.[/QUOTE]I have had a couple suggest it, we then watch on the TV and do it all over again.
For you fellas that have fucked umpteen pinays over the years, what would you say the ratio of camel toe ladies is vs. Those with protruding pussy lips? I've seen many on webcams and porn sites and I've never seen a country with more camel toes in my life.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2318220]I have had a couple suggest it, we then watch on the TV and do it all over again.[/QUOTE]There is a thriving swingers scene there and plenty time I have done that. On one occasion we had a dinner party and the all the wives (4) went under the table for desert. Fun times KG.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2318437]This is 2019. The internet![/QUOTE]Topic moved here. Related story. I was in a condo unit one afternoon and opened WeChat, and went to the 'Find Near Me' function, and selected "Female". It showed 2 girls within 5 meters of me. I looked at their profiles and one chimed in to chat with me. At the same time I chimed in to chat the other girl. The first girl offered a massage and any other that I might like. She gave her room number and she was just up one floor. Could not avail of the opportunity as I had a twin-pack inbound shortly on a bus. The best part? You'd expect I was in Manila / Cebu / Davao, but I was in the province. I love phils.
You have to wonder why he brought them in when you can buy them and insane stupidity / morality of BOC in confiscating them (maybe the officials can't afford them? LOL).
[URL]https://www.philstar.com/the-freeman/cebu-news/2019/05/21/1919672/boc-seizes-sex-toys-materials[/URL]
Bizarre behaviour especially as I have purchased many in Manila and Cebu before plus have DHL bondage gear to Makati from overseas.
Very odd LOL.
Had the police stop me in rental car, I'm not sure you can even call the police here police but lets pretend they are not traffic crossing guards. Said I ran a red, which was probably true but I was right on the car in front of me so like 5 of us ran the red. They tried to say they would keep my license and I needed to pay 3000 at police station to get it back. I then told them for 5 dollars I can get a replacement license in the US so why would I pay 3000 pesos when I can get one for 250 pesos and not have to dink around with their traffic. They didn't really know what to say to that and kept trying to insist they were writing a ticket and I kept telling them they were wasting their time but can if they want to. They eventually just gave up and let me off obviously they were going for a payoff, but they should've just asked for one. Keeping my license when I still have a concealed and a passport is kind of pointless threat. Just FYI, I wouldn't suggest renting a vehicle, but I didn't have any serious problems just got sick of having to push my way through traffic with a new Toyota Hilux, I would never drive that way with my vehicle but with a rental I figured ah fuck who cares my credit card company will handle any problems.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2324559]You have to wonder why he brought them in when you can buy them and insane stupidity / morality of BOC in confiscating them (maybe the officials can't afford them? LOL).
[URL]https://www.philstar.com/the-freeman/cebu-news/2019/05/21/1919672/boc-seizes-sex-toys-materials[/URL]
Bizarre behaviour especially as I have purchased many in Manila and Cebu before plus have DHL bondage gear to Makati from overseas.
Very odd LOL.[/QUOTE]In Davao sells all that crap. It saves me packing anyway as I don't want to be pulled at the airport. I do have some clothes etc but I dislike public drama. The guy sure had a lot of dildos, perhaps for web cammers? I guess the customs guys had a party with their pretty colleague. With Dutuerte as boss, it is probably not a good time to push limits.
[QUOTE=MadisonGuy;2325799]Keeping my license when I still have a concealed and a passport is kind of pointless threat. [/QUOTE]Um. What was concealed?
[QUOTE=MadisonGuy;2325799]I would never drive that way with my vehicle but with a rental I figured ah fuck who cares my credit card company will handle any problems.[/QUOTE]They say a rental car is the fastest car on earth.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2325921]Um. What was concealed?
They say a rental car is the fastest car on earth.[/QUOTE]Meaning concealed license, 2 forms of ID, not really a worry to lose one of three ID's.
[QUOTE=MadisonGuy;2325799]Had the police stop me in rental car, I'm not sure you can even call the police here police but lets pretend they are not traffic crossing guards. Said I ran a red, which was probably true but I was right on the car in front of me so like 5 of us ran the red.[/QUOTE]This story reminds me of some advice I was given in Mandaue when leaving hotel going out for a walk. Guy told me to be very careful jaywalking, said I could be one of 20 phils crossing together and cops will only grab me as the only white guy in the bunch. Shakedown for a bribe is what it amounts to.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2324559]You have to wonder why he brought them in when you can buy them and insane stupidity / morality of BOC in confiscating them (maybe the officials can't afford them? LOL).[/QUOTE]Many times on ISG I have said to be careful. Guys want to bring shit like cell phones in bulk to a country to give out to girls. They are breaking Customs rules by not declaring if you have so many and paying import duty. Guess this guy found out the hard way.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2326191]Many times on ISG I have said to be careful. Guys want to bring shit like cell phones in bulk to a country to give out to girls. They are breaking Customs rules by not declaring if you have so many and paying import duty. Guess this guy found out the hard way.[/QUOTE]I did notice that many of the items seemed to be duplicates and screamed resale. I'm wondering of that was more of an issue than the nature of the items.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2326285]I did notice that many of the items seemed to be duplicates and screamed resale. I'm wondering of that was more of an issue than the nature of the items.[/QUOTE]Exactly what it seems like. I searched all the codes that they quoted and could only come up with him not declaring it and paying tax. Says you can get it back for a 30% penalty though. Not sure why this was even news.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2326299]Says you can get it back for a 30% penalty though. Not sure why this was even news.[/QUOTE]Because its salacious.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2326406]Because its salacious.[/QUOTE]And shows customs people are vigilant etc LOL Shame they were not as keen to find that shabu that slipped through in magnetic coils (or something like that) and was worth a lot more than the toys etc.
And of course it being a Catholic place sex toys are far worse than shabu LOL.
Hello fellow dudes. I saw the photos in the galley and base on that I decided that I like Philipines girls very much.
Some beginer questions.
- Where is best city for mongering in Philipines?
- How much cost a girl? For how long time?
- Is Tinder, Badoo etc possible?
[QUOTE=MichiT;2326581]Hello fellow dudes. I saw the photos in the galley and base on that I decided that I like Philipines girls very much.
Some beginer questions.
- Where is best city for mongering in Philipines?
- How much cost a girl? For how long time?
- Is Tinder, Badoo etc possible?[/QUOTE]The other day in the Medellin thread you were telling me that you did not want to pay a chick. Why the sudden change of heart?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;2324801]I am totally lost on what being successful has to do with picking up a hooker. All you need is money in your pocket. Do you consider it successful when you go to McDonald's and are able to buy a Big Mac?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MichiT;2325064]I am generally not interested in hooker girls, I am interested in picking up girls without money involved! That's the point![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2326606]The other day in the Medellin thread you were telling me that you did not want to pay a chick. Why the sudden change of heart?[/QUOTE]I still don't want, but if the prices are so low, it's interesting. I am always open to try new things.
[QUOTE=MichiT;2326762]I still don't want, but if the prices are so low, it's interesting. I am always open to try new things.[/QUOTE]Kinda reminds me of the girl who says I am not a hooker but if the price is high enough I am willing to try!
I am not a John but if the price is right I am willing to try! LOL.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2326606]The other day in the Medellin thread you were telling me that you did not want to pay a chick. Why the sudden change of heart?[/QUOTE]Good spot Mr E.
He says in a later post he may try but as he is writing on a monger board where we all pay (in one way or another) have to ask why is he doing meaningless FRs. Checking the FR history shows very little and he was Tbilisi twice and never said what he did, who he did and prices etc. Lots of questions and bland comments maybe.
DG. Your price would be low once they see your booty LOL we both know this but am sure MichiT won't pay the price as he like free and we know nothing is really free LOL.
[QUOTE=MichiT;2326762]I still don't want, but if the prices are so low, it's interesting. I am always open to try new things.[/QUOTE]You seem to be at the wrong place here. Oh well.
Guess you never had an exotic car nor klunker in the US. Happened to me and friends all the time.
[QUOTE=MadisonGuy;2325799]Had the police stop me in rental car, I'm not sure you can even call the police here police but lets pretend they are not traffic crossing guards..[/QUOTE]
I'm thinking of heading here for 10 or 12 days over Christmas.
Never having been before I was hoping to base myself somewhere with good mongering but on the coast with beaches.
For my comparison think of Phuket. Does anywhere similar exist here?
I see Manila is coastal but are there quieter coastal areas?
Ideally somewhere with reasonable transport connections for Manila as the gateway in / out.
Can someone offer a quick list of my options?
Thanks for any forthcoming.
P.
[QUOTE=Penguin69;2326874]I'm thinking of heading here for 10 or 12 days over Christmas.
Never having been before I was hoping to base myself somewhere with good mongering but on the coast with beaches.
For my comparison think of Phuket. Does anywhere similar exist here?
I see Manila is coastal but are there quieter coastal areas?
Ideally somewhere with reasonable transport connections for Manila as the gateway in / out.
Can someone offer a quick list of my options?
Thanks for any forthcoming.
P.[/QUOTE]Cebu Island and the Visayas generally have some really nice beaches. They can run from the very quiet (Dumaguette, Moalboal, Malapasqua etc) to the tourist infested (Bohol etc) Cebu City does have some beaches but they aren't that great and can get very busy. It does however have the best mongering in the area (online focused rather than gogos or bars) and can be a great chance to grab your favourite new friend and go to one of the quieter areas for a couple of days.
You can fly direct to all of the above from Manila or Cebu City. Cebu Pacific is typically the cheapest but keep an eye out for Philippine Airline specials. They can be great value once you include baggage etc.
One work of caution is that I've been trapped many times during the week between Christmas and New Year. Typhoons, earthquakes, random Acts of God, you name it. No need to be paranoid but I would be close to a transport hub, rather than an isolated island paradise, at this time if you are on a fixed travel schedule.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Penguin69;2326874]Never having been before I was hoping to base myself somewhere with good mongering but on the coast with beaches.
For my comparison think of Phuket. Does anywhere similar exist here?[/QUOTE]There is nothing that I have seen in PI that even remotely reminds me of Phuket. 90% of the time, if a place has a good beach then the mongering will be shitty.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2327123]There is nothing that I have seen in PI that even remotely reminds me of Phuket. 90% of the time, if a place has a good beach then the mongering will be shitty.[/QUOTE]Depends what you want the beach for. Dive and fuck is doable in sabang, subic and davao. I'd agree that lounge and fuck is much harder without byo.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2327123]There is nothing that I have seen in PI that even remotely reminds me of Phuket. 90% of the time, if a place has a good beach then the mongering will be shitty.[/QUOTE]Have always BYO when I go the beach areas Mr E never hope and assume I will find what I like there.
[QUOTE=Penguin69;2326874]I'm thinking of heading here for 10 or 12 days over Christmas.
Never having been before I was hoping to base myself somewhere with good mongering but on the coast with beaches.
For my comparison think of Phuket. Does anywhere similar exist here?
I see Manila is coastal but are there quieter coastal areas?
Ideally somewhere with reasonable transport connections for Manila as the gateway in / out.
Can someone offer a quick list of my options?
Thanks for any forthcoming.
P.[/QUOTE]X mas is big in Philippines. Catholic country. Most will be enjoying with families. Some beach resorts close some days entirely.
Cannot compare with Phuket.
None of the beaches are better than Thai beaches as per infrastructure and maintenance although because of islands nation beaches are everywhere. Philippine girls do not want to get dark and will not be sunbathing. Besides it is really hot.
Just do google search. And of course read the forum to get the info on muff diving.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2327473]X mas is big in Philippines. Catholic country. Most will be enjoying with families. Some beach resorts close some days entirely.
Philippine girls do not want to get dark and will not be sunbathing. Besides it is really hot.[/QUOTE]All valid points. Thank God for aircon. It keeps everyone happy. Just don't go on a dive / beach vacation and return home as white as a ghost. Trust me: very hard to explain.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2327473] Philippine girls do not want to get dark and will not be sunbathing. Besides it is really hot.
[/QUOTE]Around Christmas and into January is the "coolest" part of the year (all relative of course).
Mornings in the north of Luzon bring fog and dew and the need for a jacket it is so fresh up there. Visayas and Mindanao are a bit warmer but still not "really hot" as Samm says.
"Really hot" is now. Late April and May to June before the wet season kicks in.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2327534]Around Christmas and into January is the "coolest" part of the year (all relative of course).
Mornings in the north of Luzon bring fog and dew and the need for a jacket it is so fresh up there. Visayas and Mindanao are a bit warmer but still not "really hot" as Samm says.
"Really hot" is now. Late April and May to June before the wet season kicks in.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Goferring;2327485]All valid points. Thank God for aircon. It keeps everyone happy. Just don't go on a dive / beach vacation and return home as white as a ghost. Trust me: very hard to explain.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sammon;2327473]X mas is big in Philippines. Catholic country. Most will be enjoying with families. Some beach resorts close some days entirely.
Cannot compare with Phuket.
None of the beaches are better than Thai beaches as per infrastructure and maintenance although because of islands nation beaches are everywhere. Philippine girls do not want to get dark and will not be sunbathing. Besides it is really hot.
Just do google search. And of course read the forum to get the info on muff diving.[/QUOTE]All good stuff. Thanks fellas. I hadn't factored in the religion. Good points.
Essentially I'm looking to get out of European winter cold. I hate it. For a week or two, to somewhere hottish and cheap. Been to LOS and going again in August so I wanted a new place to experience, much as I love LOS.
Any other suggestions welcome which satisfy the climate and price criteria.
An American was arrested in Cebu last week and charged with "child abuse" and "QHT" . I believe that he is being held in a police cell whilst a Preliminary Investigation is conducted to find out whether there is probable cause (in practice not much more than a reasonable suspicion), that he is guilty of the crime. Initially following an arrest the Police / NBI will have some discretion as to what / whether to charge. However, unless they had a warrant, they must quickly (I think within 48 hours) file the case with the City Fiscal or release the person. Once this is done, they have lost their discretion as to how the case will proceed. City Fiscals are highly biased to send foreign defendants to jail, especially in cases of QHT for political and reportedly financial (40 k bonus) type reasons.
The key issue is whether someone is charged with a crime that is bailable or non (automatically) bailable. If it is non bailable such as Qualified HT (involving a minor or 3 or more "victims"/ accused, "are" of a minor (which can include pretty much any touching in "inappropriate areas" and almost anything to do with drugs As far as Filipino law is concerned "child abuse" includes a foreigner being in a wide variety of places with a minor more than 10 years his junior (or a mentally handicapped adult. A foreigner was sentenced to around 10 years for this type of "child abuse" this week). These places include a condo lobby area (where the current guy was arrested), in a private house (where Jesse Pfinney, the American who was arrested in Dec 2017 and supposedly hung himself on the first night in jail. Google for an update on the evidence that this was not what happened), or boarding a bus to the beach (a Singaporean spent 9 months in jail fighting this charge). My strong advise is to only get involved with girls you are SURE are 18+ and remember that many who are not 18 will lie about it, "running 18" = 18 next or a future birthday, being a classic example. You should be aware that trials in the Philippines are typically spread out over a 3-8 year period. Even if the charge is Non-Bailable, you can file a motion for bail if the evidence is weak, but this would normally take 6-18 months to get the right to post bail if approved. Cells are insanely overcrowded with 50-200 inmates per cell (nowadays in many jails they (at least those without cash) are sleeping in shifts as even with people sleeping like sardines in a can, there is not enough floor / shelf space for everyone to lie down at the same time sand extraordinarily "basic" conditions, though prisoners are surprisingly well behaved and you are unlikely to be be physically or sexually abused. Several of those inside or charged have said that they believe their Facebook discussions were monitored so IMHO I would not add people as "friends" unless you are confident they are 18+. If you do find yourself arrested even on a minor crime (which are typically used for fishing expeditions, to try and get a non bailable charge), there is a good chance they will find a way, legal or not to find out what is on your phone / laptop. At this stage any explicit photos and especially video that you may have taken, is likely to be a major liability which you are likely to deeply regret. If there is evidence that you have uploaded such material to an adult site, you are likely to be in even deeper trouble.
Finally those long time members who recall "DS" may note that he has been transferred from Leyte to New Bilibad in Muntinlupa near Manila where he joins 27,000 other prisoners including around 50 Westerners. I think his original sentence was over 100 years so he is likely to be there some time and I'm sure would appreciate a visit if you are in the area.
[QUOTE=OlderAndWiser;2330285]An American was arrested in Cebu last week and charged with "child abuse" and "QHT" . I believe that he is being held in a police cell whilst a Preliminary Investigation is conducted to find out whether there is probable cause (in practice not much more than a reasonable suspicion), that he is guilty of the crime. Initially following an arrest the Police / NBI will have some discretion as to what / whether to charge. However, unless they had a warrant, they must quickly (I think within 48 hours) file the case with the City Fiscal or release the person. Once this is done, they have lost their discretion as to how the case will proceed. City Fiscals are highly biased to send foreign defendants to jail, especially in cases of QHT for political and reportedly financial (40 k bonus) type reasons. [/QUOTE]I never go near anyone I think is 18 years old or near 18 years old, but these kind of stories are scary. I remember picking up a girl in a Nana Plaza gogo years ago thinking I could depend on the bar for age protection only to find on the way back to my hotel she was really 17 at which point of course we parted ways immediately.
I have only been visiting the PI for the last few years, previously Latin America was my playground. I've been going back on the PI vs Indonesia as a home base in SEA and I think the tide (for me) is swinging back to Indonesia. Yes this can happen in Indonesia but seems much less prevalent. Than again many fewer Westerners outside of Bali. So many things push in PIs favor from the ubiquity of English, the availability of Western food and the ease of getting longer term Visas. But none of that will matter if you get caught up on a trumped up charge either because you pissed off the wrong person or are a target of extortion. Though at least based on the news article I read, this does not appear to be turmped up but who knows. On the other hand the well publicized case of Jesse Phinney looks much more suspicious.
[QUOTE=OlderAndWiser;2330285]An American was arrested in Cebu last week and charged with "child abuse" and "QHT" . I believe that he is being held in a police cell whilst a Preliminary Investigation is conducted to find out whether there is probable cause (in practice not much more than a reasonable suspicion), that he is guilty of the crime. Initially following an arrest the Police / NBI will have some discretion as to what / whether to charge. However, unless they had a warrant, they must quickly (I think within 48 hours) file the case with the City Fiscal or release the person. Once this is done, they have lost their discretion as to how the case will proceed. City Fiscals are highly biased to send foreign defendants to jail, especially in cases of QHT for political and reportedly financial (40 k bonus) type reasons.[/QUOTE]It would be prudent to have the name and contact number of a top flight lawyer in your wallet for a "Just in Case" scenario. Anybody willing to share a best of class source?
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2330604]It would be prudent to have the name and contact number of a top flight lawyer in your wallet for a "Just in Case" scenario. Anybody willing to share a best of class source?[/QUOTE]The longer you are in jail, the more serious the charges against you, the bigger this guy's payday. One reason its such a nightmare situation. Who are you going to trust?
[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2330607]The longer you are in jail, the more serious the charges against you, the bigger this guy's payday. One reason its such a nightmare situation. Who are you going to trust?[/QUOTE]I'm afraid you are right. It's largely a matter of trust. One reason there are very few wealthy Filipinos in jail but quite a number of at least formerly wealthy foreigners is that well connected Filipinos will usually have some family friend who is a lawyer or at least knows someone that can be trusted. For foreigners it is an absolute nightmare situation. The Embassies are essentially completely useless. All they can do is provide a list of the most prestigious and expensive law firms in the country, most of whom are general practices with little or no interest in representing foreigners on sex or drug related charges. For several years the received wisdom on ISG was that Atty Solima was the guy to go to at least in Cebu. This view emanated principally from DS who was a big fan. Sadly Solima, who had an extremely "pungent" reputation, was gunned down along with his wife shortly before DS's conviction and DS ended up with around a century of sentences. The most effective Atty will depend on the nature of the trouble you get in, the evidence against you, the stage of the proceedings and the people you are dealing with and your location. In terms of location. The highest quality (and 2 x more expensive) lawyers are based in Manila. If you are arrested in Cebu it would probably make sense to get a Cebu lawyer. In smaller places, the quality of criminal lawyers will be generally be so poor that you maybe forced to fly someone in from Manila or Cebu to defend you (which can become very expensive given that hearings are scheduled in 10-20 minutes slots at intervals of 1-3 months) and are usually cancelled / postponed on at least 50% of occasions. The most "professional" attys are also those who tend to "play by the book" , the difficulty with this is that the book can take many years to "play out" as it were which is disastrous if you have been charged with a non bailable offense. Obviously the best solution is to not get into trouble in the first place but the second best is certainly some form of negotiated settlement which is far easier to achieve prior to the police filing charges with the City Prosecutor whilst they still have some discretion over what to charge. For such matters the type of Atty who "works closely with" the Police can be more effective than one who "plays by the book", sadly such Attys are seldom totally trustworthy, especially for a foreigner without strong connections in the country. Having the numbers of one or two credible attys is certainly a very sensible precaution in case disaster strikes. I'm afraid the rules here mean I can't post contact details.
Re Jesse Pfinney the person who described his case as "suspicious" is certainly right, though understating the situation.
Okay okay, before people start moaning on how bad of an idea it is, I am going this small investment will be bountiful of free sex later. If that is a thing. So there's a girl I met at hiso last year and we kept in touch. We video and she was fingering herself and doing all the nasty for me over video chat. So I promised to send her something small for a job well done.
I don't usually send money cause I'm cheap nor want to be taken advantage of. I know by doing this it may be a slippery slope but I'm hedging for some payback and a threesome with her friends later.
What's the best way to send money to this girl without entering all my info and keeping this discreet as possible. I'm thinking about mailing money to her so I don't have to sign up for accounts and such. Does western union make you Enter all your personal info? I don't want to put my info because I'm paranoid I'm get a surprise letter from her. I'm trying to stay discreet of course because this is a single player hobby. Any info will help. Please no post on how a terrible idea it is, I'm considering this an investment.
[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2337408]Okay okay, before people start moaning on how bad of an idea it is, I am going this small investment will be bountiful of free sex later. If that is a thing. So there's a girl I met at hiso last year and we kept in touch. We video and she was fingering herself and doing all the nasty for me over video chat. So I promised to send her something small for a job well done.
I don't usually send money cause I'm cheap nor want to be taken advantage of. I know by doing this it may be a slippery slope but I'm hedging for some payback and a threesome with her friends later.
What's the best way to send money to this girl without entering all my info and keeping this discreet as possible. I'm thinking about mailing money to her so I don't have to sign up for accounts and such. Does western union make you Enter all your personal info? I don't want to put my info because I'm paranoid I'm get a surprise letter from her. I'm trying to stay discreet of course because this is a single player hobby. Any info will help. Please no post on how a terrible idea it is, I'm considering this an investment.[/QUOTE]When you send money you don't need to give them all of your personal information. I don't use Western Union as they tend to charge more and exchange rates aren't as good. There are a dozen services you can use and are easy to find with a quick internet search. You need her information and make sure it matches her ID, not her bar name. As she will need to show ID picking it up. The only personal information she will need from you is your name and country you're sending from. You will also need to provide a tracking number and amount.
Difficult nowadays because of KYC. Money lenders is still the best way. Most ethnic places have the Indian / Pakistani / Arab money senders. You will most likely need to fill out a form. So, John Doe, so long as you don't need to produce an ID you are ok. Others have gotten fake ones.
Western Union might ask you to show an ID.
You can mail a couple see notes. But best to put in between pages in a book or pamphlet. Webster's paper back dictionary is good for school.
Otherwise stand at a Western Union and chat up a girl and ask her to send to you friend after she is done.
Cebuana and Palawan are the most common receiver locations. You need to supply the receiver's name, mobile number, and relationship. Once successful, you will get a code to give the receiver. She needs an ID to pickup and the code / receipt you received.
[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2337408]Okay okay, before people start moaning on how bad of an idea it is, I am going this small investment will be bountiful of free sex later. If that is a thing. So there's a girl I met at hiso last year and we kept in touch. We video and she was fingering herself and doing all the nasty for me over video chat. So I promised to send her something small for a job well done.
I don't usually send money cause I'm cheap nor want to be taken advantage of. I know by doing this it may be a slippery slope but I'm hedging for some payback and a threesome with her friends later.
What's the best way to send money to this girl without entering all my info and keeping this discreet as possible. I'm thinking about mailing money to her so I don't have to sign up for accounts and such. Does western union make you Enter all your personal info? I don't want to put my info because I'm paranoid I'm get a surprise letter from her. I'm trying to stay discreet of course because this is a single player hobby. Any info will help. Please no post on how a terrible idea it is, I'm considering this an investment.[/QUOTE]
Do not mail money to the Philippines. It will never arrive.
[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2337408]What's the best way to send money to this girl without entering all my info and keeping this discreet as possible. I'm thinking about mailing money to her so I don't have to sign up for accounts and such. Does western union make you Enter all your personal info? I don't want to put my info because I'm paranoid I'm get a surprise letter from her. I'm trying to stay discreet of course because this is a single player hobby. Any info will help. Please no post on how a terrible idea it is, I'm considering this an investment.[/QUOTE]Ask her. She will know every conceivable way that she will actually receive the money.
Most agents in the west will want to see some Identification. In Cebu, I just used the equivalent of my Blockbuster card but that would be recognized as bogus back home.
The only method that doesn't require details that I would trust would be give or wire the money to a friend who could in turn give it to her. Of course do you then trust the friend not to receive said benefits? 😠.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2337601]Ask her. She will know every conceivable way that she will actually receive the money.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mushuu09;2337408]What's the best way to send money to this girl without entering all my info and keeping this discreet as possible. I'm thinking about mailing money to her so I don't have to sign up for accounts and such. Does western union make you Enter all your personal info? I don't want to put my info because I'm paranoid I'm get a surprise letter from her. I'm trying to stay discreet of course because this is a single player hobby. Any info will help. Please no post on how a terrible idea it is, I'm considering this an investment.[/QUOTE]GoF is right. Ask her on a Friday. Use the weekend as a break to sort through the methods she suggests. I have sent money to the Pi on several occasions, via WU and other routs (into banks), never to a low class woman. If she has the WU method down pat, you will know she ain't no WU virgin. If you can call into as WU branch, you leave no trail. I did it all online. As she most likely has no bank account, you cannot use the cheaper ways.
[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2337408]Okay okay, before people start moaning on how bad of an idea it is, I am going this small investment will be bountiful of free sex later. If that is a thing. So there's a girl I met at hiso last year and we kept in touch. We video and she was fingering herself and doing all the nasty for me over video chat. So I promised to send her something small for a job well done.
I don't usually send money cause I'm cheap nor want to be taken advantage of. I know by doing this it may be a slippery slope but I'm hedging for some payback and a threesome with her friends later.
What's the best way to send money to this girl without entering all my info and keeping this discreet as possible. I'm thinking about mailing money to her so I don't have to sign up for accounts and such. Does western union make you Enter all your personal info? I don't want to put my info because I'm paranoid I'm get a surprise letter from her. I'm trying to stay discreet of course because this is a single player hobby. Any info will help. Please no post on how a terrible idea it is, I'm considering this an investment.[/QUOTE]International money transfers require clear and precise info of who is sending to whom. They require all your personal info and the girl's personal info including phone numbers.
I have used western union and Xoom. It is easy to send and they get info to pick up within minutes. Even if you are in Philippines and go to a local money transfer like mhuillar you need to show them your passport.
There is nothing to apologize for helping a girl for any reason. I have helped many a girls over the years for study, flying to meet me, bus fare with limited amounts.
[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2337408]Okay okay, before people start moaning on how bad of an idea it is, I am going this small investment will be bountiful of free sex later. If that is a thing. So there's a girl I met at hiso last year and we kept in touch. We video and she was fingering herself and doing all the nasty for me over video chat. So I promised to send her something small for a job well done.
I don't usually send money cause I'm cheap nor want to be taken advantage of. I know by doing this it may be a slippery slope but I'm hedging for some payback and a threesome with her friends later.[/QUOTE]This is stupid. You must be really lonely at home. Common sense says if you met her at HiSo before then she is open for business. How many HiSo chicks have I not sent money to and they still do threesomes? One thing you are not realizing is that they remember what you are doing for me now, not what you did for me before. Pay as you go. Do not pay before in hopes of what you wish to get later. Because if you do not send it, then the chances of her fucking you next time you show up are still 100%. Then too, that chick could be god knows where next time you show up. Dumb idea.
P. S. Funny thing is this post confirms what HiSo chicks have always told me. They do not ask guys to send money. They always just volunteer to do it and some even insist. Now I really believe that, because I can not recall ever having one ask me to send anything and here we have a guy breaking his neck to send a chick some money. All I get is a hurry up and come back soon from them and I don't give tips or lady drinks or any of that other shit that supposedly gains you favor.
[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2337408]Okay okay, before people start moaning on how bad of an idea it is, I am going this small investment will be bountiful of free sex later. If that is a thing. So there's a girl I met at hiso last year and we kept in touch. We video and she was fingering herself and doing all the nasty for me over video chat. So I promised to send her something small for a job well done.
I don't usually send money cause I'm cheap nor want to be taken advantage of. I know by doing this it may be a slippery slope but I'm hedging for some payback and a threesome with her friends later.
What's the best way to send money to this girl without entering all my info and keeping this discreet as possible. I'm thinking about mailing money to her so I don't have to sign up for accounts and such. Does western union make you Enter all your personal info? I don't want to put my info because I'm paranoid I'm get a surprise letter from her. I'm trying to stay discreet of course because this is a single player hobby. Any info will help. Please no post on how a terrible idea it is, I'm considering this an investment.[/QUOTE]Check that she has a valid ID. If she doesn't, she won't be able to collect the money. They are quite strict at Western Union and other collection centres in terms of what ID they will accept. That being the case, you will need to send the money to a friend or relative who has a valid ID and hope they handover the money to the girl.
Most girls in the 'entertainment' industry won't have a bank account nor valid ID.
[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2337408]What's the best way to send money to this girl without entering all my info and keeping this discreet as possible. I'm thinking about mailing money to her so I don't have to sign up for accounts and such. Does western union make you Enter all your personal info? I don't want to put my info because I'm paranoid I'm get a surprise letter from her. I'm trying to stay discreet of course because this is a single player hobby. Any info will help. Please no post on how a terrible idea it is, I'm considering this an investment.[/QUOTE]As Sammon points out, there may be occasional, justifiable reasons to send money to a Pinay. The key is to set limits and not allow a Pinay (and yourself) to develop a monetary dependency. ED and Sammon are correct about needing ID at both ends. Your country of origin isn't clear, but in the states Western Union will require you to show ID the first time you send money, and simply request your name and phone number for subsequent visits. Most MoneyGram outlets require you to show ID every time you send. The woman will need ID such as postal ID or voter ID to receive money at either Western Union or MoneyGram in the Phils, and both types of outlets require the recipient to know the tracking number as well as the precise amount of money, right down to cents or centavos.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2337756]Your country of origin isn't clear, but in the states Western Union will require you to show ID the first time you send money, and simply request your name and phone number for subsequent visits. Most MoneyGram outlets require you to show ID every time you send. [/QUOTE]2019 is calling. Why would you go to WU or MG to send money when you could do it from the comfort of your own toilet seat? Save yourself some time and gas money and download the app for frequent use!
Remember, after so many pick-ups your sweet young sugar baby can receive a free t-shirt.
[QUOTE=Issaquah;2337491]....I don't use Western Union as they tend to charge more and exchange rates aren't as good. There are a dozen services you can use and are easy to find with a quick internet search. ....[/QUOTE]I personally have had good luck with [URL]worldremit.com[/URL] for sending money. Much better exchange rate than WU and lots of delivery options, including direct to her bank account.
PM me for a link and we can both get a small bonus for signing up.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2337824]I personally have had good luck with [URL]worldremit.com[/URL] for sending money. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2337756]As Sammon points out, there may be occasional, justifiable reasons to send money to a Pinay. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2337631]Check that she has a valid ID. If she doesn't, she won't be able to collect the money. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sammon;2337624]International money transfers require clear and precise info of who is sending to whom. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Issaquah;2337491]When you send money you don't need to give them all of your personal information.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2337408]Okay okay, before people start moaning on how bad of an idea it is, I am going this small investment will be bountiful of free sex later. [/QUOTE]You do realise that you are all sending money to the same girl, right?? 🙄.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2337756] there may be occasional, justifiable reasons to send money to a Pinay. The key is to set limits and not allow a Pinay (and yourself) to develop a monetary dependency. [/QUOTE]Yes, if you have already met and banged the recipient AND if it can be considered a downpayment for the next time you bang her AND she's cool with the deduction applied when the future services are settled. In most other cases just NO. Downpayments to prospects seldom work out as intented. Forwarding some cash for travel costs before a scheduled meet might work, but better to buy air tickets (Cebu Pacific tickets are basically not easily refundable for example).
[QUOTE=Goferring;2337854]You do realise that you are all sending money to the same girl, right?? 🙄.[/QUOTE]Bwaaaaaaaaahahahaha.
Wait. Wait. Do any of you gents know Anna from Tarlac? She called me "Mahal ko".
Haha.
I cannot believe that this thread has now become "how to best send money to recipients in the Phils" rather than "why ever would you do it?
It certainly begs a lot of questions.
I am smiling at the responses that desperately justify why they do it (to themselves obviously since the rest of us are laughing).
Short anecdote:
We have a good friend (woman: 33 yo) living in a northern Luzon province.
She has 2 kids, no husband.
She is building a very nice house in her province on the proceeds that each of 3 WU benefactors are sending her each month PLUS what she earns on the side when she goes to Manila now and again for some freelance work.
None of the 3 guys know about the other 2.
Each guy has met her and spent time with her in Manila (she arranges to be in Manila when they visit with no overlaps between her suitors). One guy visits twice each year. One guy has visited once only. The 3rd guy has been sending money for 2 years, and visits on irregular intervals and keeps telling her his plans to retire in the Phils.
Each guy thinks they are going to marry her because she told him she would (she doesn't plan to marry any of them).
Each guy thinks she is living with her aunty in Cavite, Metro Manila and that she works in a call center (so she has a reason to be off-line or unavailable for periods of time when she doesn't want contact with them). When any one visits, she heads off to Manila for the whole time the guy is visiting.
This woman justifies her strategies because she says that if each guy is so stupid to keep sending her money without ever having wanted more information about her life then why not just accept it. She is very attractive, quite smart and intelligent. She doesn't believe she is a conniving, deceitful person even though, by definition, she is.
She maintains she is capitalizing on these guys' stupidity.
I smile to myself when I read about guys sending money and often wonder if any of her 3 guys are ISG members, but surely not. The guys sending money here know that their mahal would never do anything like that because she is different.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2337824]I personally have had good luck with [URL]worldremit.com[/URL] for sending money. Much better exchange rate than WU and lots of delivery options, including direct to her bank account.[/QUOTE]I just compared WesternUnion and WorldRemit. Maybe it depends on the country / currency that you're sending from but for me WU is cheaper:
WU: Exchange rate EUR 1 = PhP 57.3646, Fees EUR 4.90
WorldRemit: Exchange rate EUR 1 = PhP 56.7537, Fees EUR 5.99
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2337998]I just compared WesternUnion and WorldRemit. Maybe it depends on the country / currency that you're sending from but for me WU is cheaper:
WU: Exchange rate EUR 1 = PhP 57.3646, Fees EUR 4.90
WorldRemit: Exchange rate EUR 1 = PhP 56.7537, Fees EUR 5.99[/QUOTE]When I do remittance I find that the new services such as Azimo, Transferwise, WorldRemit always beat traditional interbank transfers and whenever I have checked have also beaten WU. It's hardly surprising as WU is a legacy operation with a lot of cost overhead the new players simply don't have. Out of the new players I have not found one that consistently beats all the others and they tend to come in pretty close. I therefore tend to use Transferwise as it is less hassle and less prone to false flagging transactions than WorldRemit (at least for non Americans).
IMHO.
1. WU is the expensive option. But if the money is not theirs, the pussy looks at it as getting zero or getting something.
2. There are services more expensive than WU. But alternatively, there are services much cheaper. I vote the latter.
3. If one uses the big head occasionally, one might not need options 1 or 2. But if the little head takes control use option 2.
There are cheaper options to sending money and getting close to interbank rates, net all fees. Use your big head. All the clues are here.
It really does not matter if the amounts are small and or if only a one shot deal. 3% is expensive. Under 1% is better. But if you are dealing with only US $200, that is US $6. About the cost for a drink at the airport. So no need to overthink it.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2337998]I just compared WesternUnion and WorldRemit. Maybe it depends on the country / currency that you're sending from but for me WU is cheaper:
WU: Exchange rate EUR 1 = PhP 57.3646, Fees EUR 4.90
WorldRemit: Exchange rate EUR 1 = PhP 56.7537, Fees EUR 5.99[/QUOTE]
The guy I was referring to almost a month ago has now wound up in Cebu City jail. However, the charges have been lowered to attempted HT and Child Abuse which are both bailable so he should only need to be there a few days whilst he / his family can put together the bail money (FYI P200 k +P150 k). He can probably consider himself lucky as guys have been charged with Q HT in comparable circumstances implying a minimum of around 9 months until a bail hearing can be completed and 3-8 years for a complete trial if bail is not granted. For a guy in his 60's, the latter or worse a conviction would be a de facto life / death sentence.
In case anyone is still unaware, it is insanely risky to mess around with those under 18 in the current environment in the Philippines, there are a lot of people employed / highly incentivised to inform on what they see as suspicious behaviour.
[QUOTE=OlderAndWiser;2330285]An American was arrested in Cebu last week and charged with "child abuse" and "QHT" . I believe that he is being held in a police cell whilst a Preliminary Investigation is conducted to find out whether there is probable cause (in practice not much more than a reasonable suspicion), that he is guilty of the crime. Initially following an arrest the Police / NBI will have some discretion as to what / whether to charge. However, unless they had a warrant, they must quickly (I think within 48 hours) file the case with the City Fiscal or release the person. Once this is done, they have lost their discretion as to how the case will proceed. City Fiscals are highly biased to send foreign defendants to jail, especially in cases of QHT for political and reportedly financial (40 k bonus) type reasons.
The key issue is whether someone is charged with a crime that is bailable or non (automatically) bailable. If it is non bailable such as Qualified HT (involving a minor or 3 or more "victims"/ accused, "are" of a minor (which can include pretty much any touching in "inappropriate areas" and almost anything to do with drugs As far as Filipino law is concerned "child abuse" includes a foreigner being in a wide variety of places with a minor more than 10 years his junior (or a mentally handicapped adult..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2337957]She is building a very nice house in her province on the proceeds that each of 3 WU benefactors are sending her each month PLUS what she earns on the side when she goes to Manila now and again for some freelance work.
None of the 3 guys know about the other 2.[/QUOTE]As if it would have made a difference. Some guys just prefer being used. If they knew about each other, they would just all probably try to outdo the other with their generosity in attempts to win over sole financial responsibility of the 40 year old divorcee with 2 kids.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2338062]As if it would have made a difference. Some guys just prefer being used. If they knew about each other, they would just all probably try to outdo the other with their generosity in attempts to win over sole financial responsibility of the 40 year old divorcee with 2 kids.[/QUOTE]Yes. You are probably right.
If a chick asks me to send money this is what goes through my head. The default is 0; I have no money. Instead of relaxing on my day off and enjoying the fruits of my labor, I will instead go in to work and work x amount of hours so that I will have the x amount of dollars that she wants me to send. (I see myself asking, babe how many hours do you want me to go work for you today?) I sacrafice and do all of this while she is doing what? Where I am from, that, my friends, is called pimping. Maybe my money just does not come as easy as many other guys'.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2337957]I smile to myself when I read about guys sending money and often wonder if any of her 3 guys are ISG members, but surely not. The guys sending money here know that their mahal would never do anything like that because she is different.[/QUOTE]It's refreshing to see that you finally acknowledge something to criticize about the Philippines. And since your evidence is a sample of one, I'm sure Mr. E and CM appreciate your joining their world of sweeping generalizations.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2338107]It's refreshing to see that you finally acknowledge something to criticize about the Philippines. And since your evidence is a sample of one, I'm sure Mr. E and CM appreciate your joining their world of sweeping generalizations.[/QUOTE]Maybe it is just that we do not understand. As I said, it may be a thing of perspective. I am open to learning. So will you please explain to us from your perspective why a guy should send money to a chick?
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2337957]I cannot believe that this thread has now become "how to best send money to recipients in the Phils" rather than "why ever would you do it?
[/QUOTE]Well, you better believe it.
My anecdote: I have a province 20 yo regular. I meet her and bang her for up to a week, cute, perfect body, low mileage pussy. I give her free room and board and some pocket money. After some time back home she will indicate that she has nothing left, then I send her some small amount. If I'm not too busy I will be back to bang her before the next request comes, sometimes not. It's really "up to me" - she's always ready to travel and meet me. The total CPF works out well below 1000 a pop and this works very well for me. I don't care if she's banging local dicks, actually I pretty much take that for granted, it's not even a topic. So to each their own.
Sponsoring 32 yo MILFs would not be an option for me LOL.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2337854]You do realise that you are all sending money to the same girl, right?? 🙄.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys for your contributions.
Cool thanks for the one's who offered advice. I read some replies but I am from the US. The girl is not going to get rich off the few peso I send to her. She was nice and cool person that I maintained talking to after I left. I've mongered around the world and find PI the best place to go cause of that connection built. Even for a few hours. That's why many of you guys are here and live there. I don't live a luxurious life too so what little money I give her wasn't going to make her rich or have her want to be my baby mama. It's a slippery slope some might argue but I got other stuff here and there that's better. Nevertheless, I understand the action and don't mind giving back a little to build something larger later. Maybe I won't see her again, but in America I waste money buying bottle water, and tipping 15% of the bill. Cost of living for us. Give a little, get a little. It'll pay forward. (A real threesome with her friends, three-hole, prevent her from trying to leave early. Those kind of things you get if you have a rapport).
Thanks all for playing.
[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2338257]Give a little, get a little. It'll pay forward. (A real threesome with her friends, three-hole, prevent her from trying to leave early. Those kind of things you get if you have a rapport).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PuteNut;2338239]My anecdote: I have a province 20 yo regular. I meet her and bang her for up to a week, cute, perfect body, low mileage pussy. I give her free room and board and some pocket money. After some time back home she will indicate that she has nothing left, then I send her some small amount.[/QUOTE]From my understanding you guys are saying because you send money the chick will have a threesome, etc. with you and meet up with you and let you bang her up to a week respectively. So are you assuming or telling us that these same chicks would not follow these same paths if you do not send money? If so, then what makes you say they will not?
I have never had a chick do things contingent on whether I sent money or not (I never have for the record) so I am finding it hard to understand where you guys are coming from.
Just to throw a little more yada yada on the fire:
While I was recently in Manila I barfined a pretty little spinner (38 kg) out of Kojax. She was the prettiest girl on the stage IMHO and I had a quality GFE, passionate, bareback time with her. So I barfined her a 2nd time on my last night in town and we made it an overnight session. So in between the shags we talked talked sweet nothings and I told her I would see her again when I returned to MNL. That part was all true! I really liked the girl. Then I flew back to BKK and we kept up a correspondence on Viber. ALL good. Then a few weeks after that I flew back home to the USA and we continued texting occasionally. No big deal. I text with a lot of my girls. But about a week ago she hits me the standard come on line: MY DAUGHTER IS ILL. I HAVE NO MONEY. CAN YOU HELP?
Now I have to say that I really resent getting these specific tug at your heart strings kind of hits from girls I just met. It is a low blow, IMHO, as 99.99 % of the time they are phony, but it's the 0. 01% probability that it might be true, that can bum you out. The good news is I usually only receive texts like this from one or two new girls per trip if that, so it is rare, for example, only this girl out 28 girls, tried this scam on me my last trip. So I responded with a "sorry, I can not send money. I hope you daughter gets well soon" response. A few days later the girl texts me back like she never made the request in the 1st place and it is all forgotten on her part, but I will have to try harder to forget that she tried to gin me for some extra money especially since I was very generous to her when I was with her. She did lose some stature in my eyes and so she will have to make up for that when or if I see her again. Too bad. She was such a nice girl when I was with her.
I also had a little bit different experience with another girl in LOS. This girl I met in a Soi 24 massage parlor in BKK one afternoon. We clicked and we had a very passionate bareback session that lasted 90 minutes. Then 3. 5 weeks later having just flown back to BKK from MNL, I wanted to see her again, so I texted her. She texted back that she was back home in Issan. Oh well, I thought, they come and they go. Then a couple of days later she texted that she was broke and had no money to come to BKK, would I send her some cash. Ha Ha Ha. But at least this time, this line made more sense to me. If it had not been for that fact that I had only 2 more days left in BKK, I think I might have sent her some bus money because I would have liked to have seen her one more time. But as it was, I just told her I was leaving town tomorrow and I hoped we would meet again next time I was in BKK. Then a couple of days ago she sent me a new text saying that she is back in BKK, working in a different massage parlor, and looking forward to seeing me again. When was I coming back to BKK?
So I don't know what the point of my two anecdotes is. They are just a small slice of my recent punting experiences. If some guys want to send money, then send it. If you don't, don't. It won't make the girl like you anymore than she already does or does not. But IMHO, THE BEST GIRLS NEVER ASK to be sent cash and I know a lot of girls.
There are several reasons why people send money.
One of the main reasons is many people are content with one girl while visiting. One of my girls said one guy comes there once a year for a month and wants her to stay with him. He fucks her only once a week. He gives her more than 30000 pesos besides gifts. He does not take her anywhere. He goes out by himself only. She just has to stay in the rented apartment. Sometimes he comes home in the middle of night or early morning. She does not ask or want to know where he has been.
Sex gets better with familiarity as everybody knows. So some are content in supporting a girl only to hold on to her. They are not bothered what she does with her time.
Not so much in Philippines but in Thailand many Europeans buy apartments and keep local girl there. Some with cars. They send money. I have been with some of those girls. You can find them in Disco.
If people want to send money to the girls let them. Everything in life costs money. Even though experienced mongers do not trust any girls who are out of sight each has to find out on their own if they trust the girls.
I have had few girls who I really trust but I only sent money for schooling purposes not their upkeep. Glad to say most of them have found gainful jobs. Only a couple fell through the cracks.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2338062]As if it would have made a difference. Some guys just prefer being used. If they knew about each other, they would just all probably try to outdo the other with their generosity in attempts to win over sole financial responsibility of the 40 year old divorcee with 2 kids.[/QUOTE]Very true! Some mongers just love it when their favorite Filipina hooker uses them up. It makes them feel important and wanted. They know that the hooker is pimping them, putting them to work and earn money for her. However, it gives them pleasure much like a husband who enjoys it when his wife cuckolds him, and seeks out such situations for emotional gratification. These donor mongers are happy to be just one of many earners in the Pinay hooker's stable competing for her approval with ever-growing cash transfers. One can often see these sad lonely fellows trying to outdo each other with compliments to the object of their desire on her social media profile. In their homelands, these lads learned that the way into women's hearts is to impress them with money. Unfortunately, their meagre incomes cannot win the favors fair young women in the West. Hence, they send their money to the Philippines, where they can play peso millionaires. It is ridiculous from the point of view of reasonable men but the doting lover boys are entitled to blow their social security checks and make fools of themselves if they so please.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2338259]From my understanding you guys are saying because you send money the chick will have a threesome, etc. with you and meet up with you and let you bang her up to a week respectively.[/QUOTE]Threesome? Likely not, didn't ask, and I don't need that, one sweet tight pussy does it for me. Bang me a week? Hell yeah.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2338259]
So are you assuming or telling us that these same chicks would not follow these same paths if you do not send money? If so, then what makes you say they will not? [/QUOTE]It's hypothetical, guess I would have to pay her more after that week, and she would probably spend it quickly. At a total CPF of <1000 pesos I don't sweat this too much, it works out very cost effective in the end.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2338107]It's refreshing to see that you finally acknowledge something to criticize about the Philippines. And since your evidence is a sample of one, I'm sure Mr. E and CM appreciate your joining their world of sweeping generalizations.[/QUOTE]I never said it was "evidence".
Careful readers will note I said "anecdote" which can be anything, even a fable.
Guys and girls.
People have their way of doing things. Nothing is going to convince them otherwise, including me! I have my way in sending money, to whom, how much and when. No one here or anywhere else will tell different nor do I care what they think.
I have been duped and I have benefited greatly. I just received a message from a Cebu girl who I haven't heard from in 3 years. She has broken up with her boyfriend of 2 years. I had sent her 5 k years ago for her fathers medicine and lost contact with her. 5 k is nothing to me. Yesterday she sent me a photo of her with 2 friends, 18 yo and 19 yo slim babes and asked when I will be in Cebu? I asked if her 2 friends will be coming with her? She replied "if you like, they will come".
My way has worked for me. My way may not be your way, which is fine with me. Your way is of no concern to me.
Guys and girls take your lunch.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2338340]Guys and girls.
People have their way of doing things. Nothing is going to convince them otherwise, including me! I have my way in sending money, to whom, how much and when. No one here or anywhere else will tell different nor do I care what they think.
I have been duped and I have benefited greatly. I just received a message from a Cebu girl who I haven't heard from in 3 years. She has broken up with her boyfriend of 2 years. I had sent her 5 k years ago for her fathers medicine and lost contact with her. 5 k is nothing to me. Yesterday she sent me a photo of her with 2 friends, 18 yo and 19 yo slim babes and asked when I will be in Cebu? I asked if her 2 friends will be coming with her? She replied "if you like, they will come".
My way has worked for me. My way may not be your way, which is fine with me. Your way is of no concern to me.
Guys and girls take your lunch.[/QUOTE]Precisely!
[QUOTE=Bushes;2338017]
There are cheaper options to sending money and getting close to interbank rates, net all fees. Use your big head. All the clues are here.
[/QUOTE]So what are those cheaper options? I can't think of any but maybe my big head is not big enough.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2338423]So what are those cheaper options? I can't think of any but maybe my big head is not big enough.[/QUOTE]Generally speaking, the cheapest way to get money from your bank to a foreign bank is peer to peer banking. Expect commercial exchange rates and minimal fees. This makes a big difference to small transfers where traditional bank's high fees take a proportionally big chunk of your cash and on large transfers where the better FX rate kicks in.
Transferwise is widely used but you can Google for the many other options.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2338433]Generally speaking, the cheapest way to get money from your bank to a foreign bank is peer to peer banking. [/QUOTE]Unfortunately most girls don't have a bank account. At least not the girls we are usually dealing with. They have to pick it up in cash somewhere.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2338448]Unfortunately most girls don't have a bank account. At least not the girls we are usually dealing with. They have to pick it up in cash somewhere.[/QUOTE]Agreed. That's why I prefaced my post with transferring account to account.
It's not rare to hear of guys transferring to a sister or aunts account. Alternatively, any additional layer of convenience is going to cost extra fees.
I'd also agree with the poster that said if you are going to send money and it's a small amount (which I hope it is) is a dollar or two really going to make a difference?
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2338423]So what are those cheaper options? I can't think of any but maybe my big head is not big enough.[/QUOTE]When one is already giving money away, why worry about the cheapest way to do it?
Western Union is suppose to be immediate. I had to wait from 15 minutes to 2 days. Go figure.
US money center banks with international wire transfer with no correspondence bank in between can take 1 hour to weeks.
First avoid all banks. Their fees and on going fees will eat on both ends and you will have very little money left. US name banks are no better for those who remember Citi pulling out of PI.
Brokerages usually are better. The only way to find out is to open an account and try several test transfers.
As a general rule, the US is the pits when it comes to sending outbound currency. Including the fees.
The Philippines use mostly Cebuanna or Palawan. Just show ID, phone number and pickup code and pick up cash. Like Western Union but cheaper. In general, keep it simple, look at the net value received. WU gets you the fees and FX and their net cash value received is very low.
Since this is basically a one shot deal for the original poster, I suggest he just befriends a pinay sending money home at western union and buy her a cup of coffee. He might know by the end of coffee if the money was picked up. The ethnic mostly Muslim changers probably are the best value.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2338433]Generally speaking, the cheapest way to get money from your bank to a foreign bank is peer to peer banking. Expect commercial exchange rates and minimal fees. This makes a big difference to small transfers where traditional bank's high fees take a proportionally big chunk of your cash and on large transfers where the better FX rate kicks in.
Transferwise is widely used but you can Google for the many other options.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mogwai;2338448]Unfortunately most girls don't have a bank account. At least not the girls we are usually dealing with. They have to pick it up in cash somewhere.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mogwai;2338423]So what are those cheaper options? I can't think of any but maybe my big head is not big enough.[/QUOTE]That was my first point about the girl's POV; they just want the final non zero number.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2338557]When one is already giving money away, why worry about the cheapest way to do it?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Bushes;2338017]IMHO.
1. WU is the expensive option. But if the money is not theirs, the pussy looks at it as getting zero or getting something.
2. There are services more expensive than WU. But alternatively, there are services much cheaper. I vote the latter.
3. If one uses the big head occasionally, one might not need options 1 or 2. But if the little head takes control use option 2..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2338557]When one is already giving money away, why worry about the cheapest way to do it?[/QUOTE]Exactly! If the money givers can afford to give away their money, the cost of giving it away should not matter. However, they are not actually giving money away. They are trying to buy approval and validation from their favorite hookers. Therefore, they wish to do so as cheaply as possible. We all know the sort of men who cannot say 'No' to women who they want to fuck when the sly leeches hit them up for some cash without ass.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2338557]When one is already giving money away, why worry about the cheapest way to do it?[/QUOTE]Hahaha. So true. Shouldn't the additional fees just add to the Financial Domination satisfaction? 😁.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2337854]You do realise that you are all sending money to the same girl, right?.[/QUOTE]Actually we're all sending it to the same 300 lbs man sitting in his basement. LOL.
[QUOTE=Issaquah;2338680]Actually we're all sending it to the same 300 lbs man sitting in his basement. LOL.[/QUOTE]You are all sending it to Abuja, Nigeria.
I sent a couple of girls money too. It felt good at first, but it is not the solution to any problem. Pinays have no concept of savings, budgeting or a long term view. The hooking class we mix with or the desperate gold diggers on Tinder we come across are all poor candidates to help.
A chick I sent money to help with the rent spent it all on Christmas presents and didn't have enough for the bus fare to go home for NYE. She was expecting to get a few clients into her massage parlor, but heavy rain in Manila did not encourage foot traffic. Last I heard she was desperately looking for 150 pesos. Snip went the Whatsapp connection.
Another lady I sent money to spent it all in a day. She then asked for more money for blood pressure reduction tablets. She was about to have a preemployment medical and was worried about her elevated blood pressure. Snip went the Whatsapp connection.
Don't go looking for gratitude. Their view is that the foreigner is rich so he can pay.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2338684]You are all sending it to Abuja, Nigeria.
I sent a couple of girls money too. It felt good at first, but it is not the solution to any problem. Pinays have no concept of savings, budgeting or a long term view. The hooking class we mix with or the desperate gold diggers on Tinder we come across are all poor candidates to help.
A chick I sent money to help with the rent spent it all on Christmas presents and didn't have enough for the bus fare to go home for NYE. She was expecting to get a few clients into her massage parlor, but heavy rain in Manila did not encourage foot traffic. Last I heard she was desperately looking for 150 pesos. Snip went the Whatsapp connection.
Another lady I sent money to spent it all in a day. She then asked for more money for blood pressure reduction tablets. She was about to have a preemployment medical and was worried about her elevated blood pressure. Snip went the Whatsapp connection.
Don't go looking for gratitude. Their view is that the foreigner is rich so he can pay.[/QUOTE]That is putting it nicely. They do not care whether the foreigner is rich or not. Filipinos ask for money because they believe that the foreigner is a fool, and it is foolish not to take advantage of a fool.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2338684]You are all sending it to Abuja, Nigeria.[/QUOTE]That is not at all true. Some of it goes to Lagos, Nigeria and also Accra, Ghana.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2338557]When one is already giving money away, why worry about the cheapest way to do it?[/QUOTE]Because I'm Dutch, LOL.
I am not Dutch nor a member of the tribe but I think the same way. The method and route make a big difference in the final cash / value amount the receiving end gets. The bigger parties on the receiving end would sometimes have a department to guide the givers. If you are US based, how and what you give can end up looking the same on the receiving end but costs you net over 25% less.
I usually send gift boxes from the US to the PI because the cheaper forwarding companies and the price differential between Costco and retail in PI. That might change in the near future. Material goods are not as appreciated but one can then control how the funds are spent.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2338812]Because I'm Dutch, LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2338557]When one is already giving money away, why worry about the cheapest way to do it?[/QUOTE]
Age of Consent vs Age of Majority
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Greetings Gentlemen,
The Age of Consent is the age in which girls can participate in consensual, non-commercial sex with their teen-age boyfriend without said teen-age boyfriend being charged with statutory rape.
However, the Age of Consent is irrelevant to the members of this forum.
What you need to focus on is the [u]Age of Majority[/u], which among other things is the age in which they can vote, get married, enlist in the military, and participate in commercial sex activities.
Please exercise caution and govern yourself accordingly.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXZCDIJQpK4[/URL]
Here is a nice American giving advice on living in the Philippines. He forgets the cost of his lady friend who nods away during the video. He also mentions buying a house. In her name I am sure they are both nice people and a nice couple but she probably figures she struck a very good deal, a constant cash flow. If he can afford it, well and good. He ladles his expenses in US $, instead of pesos. He talks about training regimes but she probably knows about that. He reckons $840,44,000 PHP a month, plus start up costs.
When the lady is asked to give her take, she goes on abut her schooling (but does not mention who is paying for it). Some informative comments, for and against.
I need some Photoshop work for posters. Basically they are pictures of adult models, no private parts or copulation shown but I need the end result to be spicy and catchy and to have the artist's eye, something I am totally devoid of. Naughty but not X grade of maybe the standard of fiverr. I have seen lots of small Pinoy businesses doing such things but any time I have given memory sticks etc to such concerns, they have come back with multiple viruses as Pinoys seem to be a mixture of hopelessly bad and hopefully good. That said, from the little I've seen, they do seem to be good at knocking up fake IDs etc which are of no interest to me. Because of the sensitive X rateish nature of the work, I would prefer to deal in person than work through the likes of fiverr. Has anyone had any experience of such companies where you can walk in, discuss the project, give a legit order and get a reasonable job done?
Your answer is in the question you asked. It depends on how professional you want or mean. Most design companies have staff that can do digital manipulation at a price. They also do design and output for old and new print / digital mediums.
Print / copy shops can also do digital manipulations but they don't want to spend too much time. They are cheaper than the design companies but want to quickly knock things out.
Smaller photo shops that used to print out photos and passport photos have the basic setup to do the stuff. It depends on how good the guy is behind the counter. In the past, purchasing some extra service or prints would be enough for the guy to do a quick 15 minute touch up.
Photoshop has a learning curve. There are apps with AI for mobile devices that do a pretty good for almost no cost.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2346429]I need some Photoshop work for posters. [/QUOTE]
What happened to the old Dragon Slayer forum? Deleted? Moved? Archived? I don't see it in the list anymore. I need to quit hanging out in the PG.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2346982]Your answer is in the question you asked. It depends on how professional you want or mean. [/QUOTE]Thanks for your answer. The clearer instructions I can give, the better. Then hope for the best. I suppose there are Photoshop nuggets out there but they probably concentrate on the local market. I won't get back to the Philippines until near Christmas but I am thinking of those areas that concentrate on the student market. Your reply was very helpful in focusing in on what the parameters of getting a good job done there would be.
Done a search using search box but nothing comes up on Laiya Beach.
Also searched using Batangas but nothing- any info. State of beach, hotels, food, girls?
Appreciate.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2347394]What happened to the old Dragon Slayer forum? Deleted? Moved? Archived? I don't see it in the list anymore. I need to quit hanging out in the PG.[/QUOTE]Still there but a few including myself think it should be deleted and removed (or archived if that can't be done). See PM also hang out there instead LOL.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2347394]What happened to the old Dragon Slayer forum? Deleted? Moved? Archived? I don't see it in the list anymore. I need to quit hanging out in the PG.[/QUOTE]He died approximately 2 years ago.
GE.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2347499]He died approximately 2 years ago.
GE.[/QUOTE]Yes, I was aware of the death. Following that, there were a few RIP comments in the thread, and then it went dormant and was finally locked by Admin (as in archived, but still there). It was there for months if not more. Admin, did you remove it?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2347684]Yes, I was aware of the death. Following that, there were a few RIP comments in the thread, and then it went dormant and was finally locked by Admin (as in archived, but still there). It was there for months if not more. Admin, did you remove it?[/QUOTE]Upon the death of a person, the people named in the will may legally claim the disused online accounts. Maybe the family's attorney asked that it be closed.
Actually, if you are in the US or another Asian country, you will have a better chance of finding a professional photo shop. In the US art shops, can do some stuff but they do offsite. Like Hobby Lobby on the cheap end. I think the uni student work might work but it depends on experience. Photoshop is expensive as are the computers or mac used by most companies. It is different from digital manipulation as most use very specialized tools.
If you are in a big US city, try firing up an app that looks for people to do contract or errands.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2347415]Thanks for your answer. The clearer instructions I can give, the better. Then hope for the best. I suppose there are Photoshop nuggets out there but they probably concentrate on the local market. I won't get back to the Philippines until near Christmas but I am thinking of those areas that concentrate on the student market. Your reply was very helpful in focusing in on what the parameters of getting a good job done there would be.[/QUOTE].
So a few years ago, several years ago now actually, I was denied entry into the Philippines at the airport in Cebu. No clear reason was given. I was detained for a few hours, then put on a flight back to Hong Kong, where I was living at the time. My question is, what are the chances of this happening again? I have a new passport now, as my prior one expired. Anybody have any input on this type of situation? I honestly have NO idea why I was denied entry the last time and I'm going to visit my fiancee's family and I sure do not want this to happen again. Thanks in advance for any insight.
[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2349743]So a few years ago, several years ago now actually, I was denied entry into the Philippines at the airport in Cebu. No clear reason was given. I was detained for a few hours, then put on a flight back to Hong Kong, where I was living at the time. My question is, what are the chances of this happening again? I have a new passport now, as my prior one expired. Anybody have any input on this type of situation? I honestly have NO idea why I was denied entry the last time and I'm going to visit my fiancee's family and I sure do not want this to happen again. Thanks in advance for any insight.[/QUOTE]I was in a fb group where the girls often told each other to raise a case against foreigners who lied to them for sex and they would not be allowed back into pH. When I was there earlier this year a girl 'jokingly' said she would raise a case against me. Never share your real name or documents with anyone, obviously the hotel has these.
[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2349743]So a few years ago, several years ago now actually, I was denied entry into the Philippines at the airport in Cebu. No clear reason was given. I was detained for a few hours, then put on a flight back to Hong Kong, where I was living at the time. My question is, what are the chances of this happening again? I have a new passport now, as my prior one expired. Anybody have any input on this type of situation? I honestly have NO idea why I was denied entry the last time and I'm going to visit my fiancee's family and I sure do not want this to happen again. Thanks in advance for any insight.[/QUOTE]Your question, not the first of this sort, is too general to get a very useful entry because you are deliberately withholding information. Let's break it down.
1. You were either flagged in transit, in a country outside the Philippines or by someone in the Philippines.
2. Your passport has the same number, even if you renew it. That number is in the system. Right of reentry is dependent upon the reason for refusing entry.
3. It is quite possible someone contacted your own non Pinoy authorities and they put in the request. That is because you were not detained or shaken down.
4. Until you find out why you were denied entry, you are dealing in Lotto land. You don't say if you were photographed, finger printed etc.
5. If you have no idea why you were stopped. A few years ago, how are we supposed to know.
6. Isn't it odd you were denied entry and you have a Pinay fiancee?
[QUOTE=Bushes;2347878]Actually, if you are in the US or another Asian country, you will have a better chance of finding a professional photo shop. In the US art shops, can do some stuff but they do offsite. Like Hobby Lobby on the cheap end. I think the uni student work might work but it depends on experience. Photoshop is expensive as are the computers or mac used by most companies. It is different from digital manipulation as most use very specialized tools. If you are in a big US city, try firing up an app that looks for people to do contract or errands..[/QUOTE]In the past, I have got good (shopping mall near Fields) ad very bad jobs done up (glasses etc). I have seen lots of these digital services in uni areas but what the Philippines seems to lack is the will or whatever to do things properly. Say there was a shopping mall, not bottom end, in a semi tourist area with such services available, it would do very well. Thailand, Singapore etc seem to be much further along those roads but in the Philippines,. It is all patchy and take your luck. I guess the better Pinoys have their customers online and off line and it is just not worth their while sweating over picking up an odd tourist or two.
When I return to the Phils, I like to stock up on clothes and other items for me, get jobs like this done too, but they don't make it easy. Thailand just wants your money and then to say bye bye. Thais are smart.
[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2349743]So a few years ago, several years ago now actually, I was denied entry into the Philippines at the airport in Cebu. No clear reason was given. I was detained for a few hours, then put on a flight back to Hong Kong, where I was living at the time. My question is, what are the chances of this happening again? I have a new passport now, as my prior one expired. Anybody have any input on this type of situation? I honestly have NO idea why I was denied entry the last time and I'm going to visit my fiancee's family and I sure do not want this to happen again. Thanks in advance for any insight.[/QUOTE]Go to nearest Philippine Embassy and apply for a 180-day Visa. If it is approved, you should be good to go.
But again, there has to be a lot more to your back story if you had a fiancee and were denied entry and you did not find out why.
P.S. Don't enter in Cebu.
[QUOTE=Robbaf;2349991]...P.S. Don't enter in Cebu.[/QUOTE]Why is that? I was planning on entering there.
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2350019]Why is that? I was planning on entering there.[/QUOTE]That was for the poster not the general public. I find Cebu less of a hassle to enter as the queues are not bad as long as you don't arrive after 3-4 Korean / Chinese planes whose pax never seem able to know the procedure and take so much time to get the passports through the system LOL.
[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2349743]So a few years ago, several years ago now actually, I was denied entry into the Philippines at the airport in Cebu. No clear reason was given. I was detained for a few hours, then put on a flight back to Hong Kong, where I was living at the time. My question is, what are the chances of this happening again? I have a new passport now, as my prior one expired. Anybody have any input on this type of situation? I honestly have NO idea why I was denied entry the last time and I'm going to visit my fiancee's family and I sure do not want this to happen again. Thanks in advance for any insight.[/QUOTE]Banned from Pinay Pussy Land is a monger's worst nightmare become reality. If a monger is denied entry and deported for any reason other than having a passport with less than 6 months remaining prior to expiration, the odds are very slim that he would welcomed into Pussy Land in the future. Bad behavior on prior visits or naughty behavior in other countries that lands a monger on a watch list or Interpol database can result in eternal banishment from Beaver Heaven.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2349785]2. Your passport has the same number, even if you renew it. That number is in the system.[/QUOTE]Not correct, this varies country to country. A lot of places issue a new number with the new passport.
[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2349743]So a few years ago, several years ago now actually, I was denied entry into the Philippines at the airport in Cebu. No clear reason was given. I was detained for a few hours, then put on a flight back to Hong Kong, where I was living at the time. My question is, what are the chances of this happening again? I have a new passport now, as my prior one expired. Anybody have any input on this type of situation? I honestly have NO idea why I was denied entry the last time and I'm going to visit my fiancee's family and I sure do not want this to happen again. Thanks in advance for any insight.[/QUOTE]It would help to know how long you had left on your passport as it's been pointed out that you need to have 6 months left. This is common in many countries.
Also, where are you from? Do you hold a passport that allows visa free / VOA entry? You would be surprised how many people try to board planes or even get to countries thinking they don't need a visa when they do.
As CM points out, you get flagged at the airport. They have your date of birth, name and a number. The number is to nab you if you change passports. When you hand in your passport at passport at passport control, that is what they type in as you wait. You get flagged if all three come up on their screen. Though I do not know the specifics of each individual country, that is the general principle. Someone flagged this dude for reasons he has not explained but he wants us to divine so he can get a pass next time. He doesn't even tell us if his passport was stamped, which it should have been or anything he learned while being held. We are supposed to just guess it all.
Kinda dumb but that is Internet questions for you.
[QUOTE=Kerrstar;2350177]Not correct, this varies country to country. A lot of places issue a new number with the new passport.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2350103] Bad behavior on prior visits or naughty behavior in other countries that lands a monger on a watch list or Interpol database can result in eternal banishment from Beaver Heaven.[/QUOTE]
I will be back in the Philippines later this year and I want to spend money on me. Unlike Thailand and other destinations, I find it difficult as the Philippines only seems to offer cheap beer and cheap women. Perhaps that is due to high import taxes and poorly made domestic goods. What is worth buying in the Philippines with say $1000-$10,000 to burn?
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2349785]
6. Isn't it odd you were denied entry and you have a Pinay fiancee?[/QUOTE]Not really. The two are not connected events. He's met his Pinay fiancee in some overseas country. If he lived in HK before, maybe his fiancee is a DH in HK?
[QUOTE=Jingo10;2349781]I was in a fb group where the girls often told each other to raise a case against foreigners who lied to them for sex and they would not be allowed back into pH. When I was there earlier this year a girl 'jokingly' said she would raise a case against me. Never share your real name or documents with anyone, obviously the hotel has these.[/QUOTE]So you're saying that the crooked Bureau of Immigration in the Philippines will accept requests from random hookers to ban foreigners who lied to them? With no evidence? Seriously, don't the civil servants at the BoI have more interesting (and lucrative) things to do than blacklist foreigners based on rumour and hearsay? How would a hooker know how to raise a case unless a relative worked in Immigration?
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2350103]Banned from Pinay Pussy Land is a monger's worst nightmare become reality. If a monger is denied entry and deported for any reason other than having a passport with less than 6 months remaining prior to expiration, the odds are very slim that he would welcomed into Pussy Land in the future. Bad behavior on prior visits or naughty behavior in other countries that lands a monger on a watch list or Interpol database can result in eternal banishment from Beaver Heaven.[/QUOTE]Speaking of mongers banned from Pinay Pussy Land (P.P.L.), has anyone heard how the Norse God Skogis is going? It was always interesting to read of his exploits in P.P.L.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2350288]So you're saying that the crooked Bureau of Immigration in the Philippines will accept requests from random hookers to ban foreigners who lied to them? With no evidence? Seriously, don't the civil servants at the BoI have more interesting (and lucrative) things to do than blacklist foreigners based on rumour and hearsay? How would a hooker know how to raise a case unless a relative worked in Immigration?[/QUOTE]I think immigration just enforce it. It's not unusual for countries to side with their nationals against foreigners. I am just reporting what I've seen and heard. Maybe people living there could advise.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2350291]Speaking of mongers banned from Pinay Pussy Land (P.P.L.), has anyone heard how the Norse God Skogis is going? It was always interesting to read of his exploits in P.P.L.[/QUOTE]This one is still in permanent exile from Pinay Beaver Heaven. He shall not be returning to entertain fans of his sexual exploits, as one such jealous fan set the trap that the Norseman narrowly escaped. Jealous! Some mongers get jealous when other mongers root their leased Pinay 'semi-pros' and use their local contacts to retaliate in creative ways. Often, it is not the girl that orchestrates the legal and immigration entanglements but rather a possessive foreign sponsor with a little cash to bribe the authorities.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2350291]Speaking of mongers banned from Pinay Pussy Land (P.P.L.), has anyone heard how the Norse God Skogis is going? It was always interesting to read of his exploits in P.P.L.[/QUOTE]Skogis no longer in people and changed his name. Contributes other forums other countries. V interesting person when you meet him and have a dinner as I did a few times.
But he did get caught up in a visit to the police after he posted a photo and it was found out by the girl. He did a FR on it also.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2350245]I will be back in the Philippines later this year and I want to spend money on me. Unlike Thailand and other destinations, I find it difficult as the Philippines only seems to offer cheap beer and cheap women. Perhaps that is due to high import taxes and poorly made domestic goods. What is worth buying in the Philippines with say $1000-$10,000 to burn?[/QUOTE]I assume you don't want to buy 50 all nighters with beautiful, buxom Burgos broads or 2,000 cases of San Mig Light.
You seem like a distinguished, cultured, urbane gentleman. For $10,000 you could easily get a penile implant, reduction of your man boobs, pec implants and full set of cappings for your teeth under a packaged deal. Not much else to spend your money on in Manila.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2350617]
A. I assume you don't want to buy 50 all nighters with beautiful, buxom Burgos broads or 2,000 cases of San Mig Light.
B. You seem like a distinguished, cultured, urbane gentleman. For $10,000 you could easily get a penile implant, reduction of your man boobs, pec implants and full set of cappings for your teeth under a packaged deal. Not much else to spend your money on in Manila.[/QUOTE]A could be fun and I like SML (with lemon). However, I;the imagine the 50 boxom Burgos broads would talk all night, drink all the beer and stop me getting a good sleep.
Be. This is the root of the problem. Nothing to spend money on but BS. I am not into any of that BS. Is there seriously nothing worth buying? I guess the locals have it wrapped up: cheap labour, big profits and some important taxes to complain about. They should have shopping malls to shake down foreigners. As it is, the malls are only used to get in out of the heat and for random hookers to eye up bored foreigners.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2350836]A could be fun and I like SML (with lemon). However, I;the imagine the 50 boxom Burgos broads would talk all night, drink all the beer and stop me getting a good sleep.
Be. This is the root of the problem. Nothing to spend money on but BS. I am not into any of that BS. Is there seriously nothing worth buying? I guess the locals have it wrapped up: cheap labour, big profits and some important taxes to complain about. They should have shopping malls to shake down foreigners. As it is, the malls are only used to get in out of the heat and for random hookers to eye up bored foreigners.[/QUOTE]The malls are very good and many upscale but the prices are the same as anywhere else except for maybe some philippine produced goods which are not high quality. I don't know of anything worth buying here and taking out of the country that is not also available in your mall at home, unless you want a Pinay beauty but that is very much a buyer beware proposition as has been stated on ISG many times. You might want to interview for a housekeeper to stay with you for 2 years as an OFW. No commitment beyond that and than she returns to Philippines, be sure not to have kids with her, that is a big no no. Agencies here handle all paperwork and arrange interviews. Not cheap but works for many.
FT.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2350245]I will be back in the Philippines later this year and I want to spend money on me. Unlike Thailand and other destinations, I find it difficult as the Philippines only seems to offer cheap beer and cheap women. Perhaps that is due to high import taxes and poorly made domestic goods. What is worth buying in the Philippines with say $1000-$10,000 to burn?[/QUOTE]Rent a yatch. Get a few girls off SA or IG and sail around the islands for a few weeks.
Then top the trip off with a few visits to high end KTVs in makati and BGC, I promise you the women there won't be cheap.
[QUOTE=RainMania;2351018]Rent a yatch. Get a few girls off SA or IG and sail around the islands for a few weeks.
Then top the trip off with a few visits to high end KTVs in makati and BGC, I promise you the women there won't be cheap.[/QUOTE]That is a great recommendation. They say that experiences are more valuable than possessions.
When is the beauty pageant season. Not the international ones but the local ones? I want to bang women in some of that stuff they wear for them. It is just a thing to kick off my bucket list. I would also like to get some tribe women but I guess that is a high risk sport. I want to hit the small towns and get my weasel greased by some contestants. I think the season is Nov / Dec.
[QUOTE=RainMania;2351018]Rent a yatch. Get a few girls off SA or IG and sail around the islands for a few weeks.
Then top the trip off with a few visits to high end KTVs in makati and BGC, I promise you the women there won't be cheap.[/QUOTE]Renting a yacht was right at the top of the suggestions I was going to make. Topped off with a couple travelling companions and you have heaven on earth, without the infrastructure, traffic, pollution, etc, issues that you have on dry land. Want to go somewhere else? Just raise the sails while the girls raise your schlong.
[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;2352603]Renting a yacht was right at the top of the suggestions I was going to make. Topped off with a couple travelling companions and you have heaven on earth, without the infrastructure, traffic, pollution, etc, issues that you have on dry land. Want to go somewhere else? Just raise the sails while the girls raise your schlong.[/QUOTE]Till the girls start getting sea-sick and vomiting and you end up breathing in the smell, taking care of them and having to go back to shore to let them off. Sounds like a plan.
[QUOTE=Sidtip;2353056]Till the girls start getting sea-sick and vomiting and you end up breathing in the smell, taking care of them and having to go back to shore to let them off. Sounds like a plan.[/QUOTE]Talk about seeing a glass as half empty. 😁.
If a couple of girls pass out, who cares. Just move to the next ones. They will be fine in the morning. Its no different to bringing a group back from the club, some more inebriated than others.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2353108]Talk about seeing a glass as half empty. 😁.
If a couple of girls pass out, who cares. Just move to the next ones. They will be fine in the morning. Its no different to bringing a group back from the club, some more inebriated than others.[/QUOTE]On the positive side, you wouldn't have to exert much physical effort banging them during high seas! The beer belly guys could gently sea saw in and out with ezz.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2351952]When is the beauty pageant season. Not the international ones but the local ones? I want to bang women in some of that stuff they wear for them. It is just a thing to kick off my bucket list. I would also like to get some tribe women but I guess that is a high risk sport. I want to hit the small towns and get my weasel greased by some contestants. I think the season is Nov / Dec.[/QUOTE]I banged a contestant, not in costume but she does the circuit. She was competing in May. I have seen a few on DIA with the pageant dresses.
[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;2352603]Renting a yacht was right at the top of the suggestions I was going to make. Topped off with a couple travelling companions and you have heaven on earth, without the infrastructure, traffic, pollution, etc, issues that you have on dry land. Want to go somewhere else? Just raise the sails while the girls raise your schlong.[/QUOTE]This is not Miami where you would pile 10 hot latina babes in string bikinis onto your 65 foot Sunseeker and go cruising.
I could not think of anything worse than being trapped in a rickety old boat on Manila waters with a bunch of stupid Pinay hookers. It's all academic really. Can you imagine getting them all to assemble at the pier on time? Half of them would be on menstruation duty, some would be throwing up and a few would be totally paralytic after drinking red horse in the sun.
[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;2352603]Renting a yacht was right at the top of the suggestions I was going to make. Topped off with a couple travelling companions and you have heaven on earth, without the infrastructure, traffic, pollution, etc, issues that you have on dry land. Want to go somewhere else? Just raise the sails while the girls raise your schlong.[/QUOTE]I am curious to see how this turns out. Kindly report back after the excursion, Captain BH.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2353229]. Can you imagine getting them all to assemble at the pier on time? Half of them would be on menstruation duty, some would be throwing up and a few would be totally paralytic after drinking red horse in the sun.[/QUOTE]And the half that did turn up on time would be asking to leave to feed their babies, care for their sick mum, pay their electricity bills or have an unexpected emergency to attend by the time the stragglers did turn up.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2353229]Can you imagine getting them all to assemble at the pier on time? Half of them would be on menstruation duty, some would be throwing up and a few would be totally paralytic after drinking red horse in the sun.[/QUOTE]LOL. You might be right. Watching all this would be worth the price of admission though. 😁.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2353427]LOL. You might be right. Watching all this would be worth the price of admission though. 😁.[/QUOTE]Just like the internet and porn. MFs always trying to recreate something they saw that may or may not be real.
I guess it's easy to have those kind of worries when you're used to fishing at or from near the bottom of the barrel.
If you can take your pinay girl (s) scuba diving, island hopping, island getaways and even on international travels, which many mongers have done successfully, what's the challenge of a few days cruise on a private yacht?
I can understand if you only go for bar girls, street girls and the airheads on PL / DIA / FB, yeah girls from that world wouldn't bode well on a yacht getaway for a few days, especially if you haven't vetted them and their friends thoroughly. Someone looking to drop $10 k shouldn't be looking in that direction in the first place.
But if you set your sights a little higher, there is a world of endless possibilities out there:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/pandorakaaki/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/annabanana_peregrination/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/iamsweetmarie/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/karinajohnson97/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/BTBchZtgUbF/?hl=en[/URL]
[QUOTE=RainMania;2353448]I guess it's easy to have those kind of worries when you're used to fishing at or from near the bottom of the barrel.
If you can take your pinay girl (s) scuba diving, island hopping, island getaways and even on international travels, which many mongers have done successfully, what's the challenge of a few days cruise on a private yacht?
[/QUOTE]Correct. My reply was tongue in cheek.
Its got to suck to be those people who always assume that their day / event is always going to be a disaster. Sure some are but there are also very pleasant surprises.
[QUOTE=RainMania;2353448]I can understand if you only go for bar girls, street girls and the airheads on PL / DIA / FB, yeah girls from that world wouldn't bode well on a yacht getaway for a few days, especially if you haven't vetted them and their friends thoroughly. Someone looking to drop $10 k shouldn't be looking in that direction in the first place.
But if you set your sights a little higher, there is a world of endless possibilities out there:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/pandorakaaki/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/annabanana_peregrination/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/iamsweetmarie/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/karinajohnson97/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/BTBchZtgUbF/?hl=en[/URL][/QUOTE]I sort of agree. My experience with super hot models delivering stellar performance hasn't been good. Too much of a sense of entitlement and emotional baggage for me. Give me a Junior Accounts Payable Clerk who is stoked to be in her first trip on a boat anytime. She will definitely say thanks in the best way. 🤓.
BTW, the first 4 IG girls are stunners but all on PinaLove, not surprisingly as subscribers only, Popular girls. Or I should say at least their photos are on Pina Love. Lol
Enjoy, G.
Agreed on the performance and attitude from model level girls, but I can't fault them too much, they're there for the money and snaps for their IG after all LOL. As long as they do as they're told and put out when requested while at least feigning some interest, all is good LOL.
There are sweethearts in this group too that will give you the experience of a lifetime, but they tend to be the newer, younger and less experienced ones.
And of course, there are absolute gems to be found in the tiers below (junior clerks etc). The ones that are on their way to becoming insta models and superstars in their own right. Get one of these at the right time before the semi-fame sets in and you'll have a PSE IG model for as long as you want even after they get known.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2353467]
BTW, the first 4 IG girls are stunners but all on PinaLove, not surprisingly as subscribers only, Popular girls. Or I should say at least their photos are on Pina Love. Lol
Enjoy, G.[/QUOTE]They are the most stolen photos in all of the Philippines. Just about every rub and tug joint in Manila uses images of those girls to bring in customers. I don't think chicks like that are going to be working as common prostitutes on dating sites when they would have so many high rollers paying their bills.
[QUOTE=RainMania;2353448]I guess it's easy to have those kind of worries when you're used to fishing at or from near the bottom of the barrel.
But if you set your sights a little higher, there is a world of endless possibilities out there:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/pandorakaaki/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/annabanana_peregrination/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/iamsweetmarie/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/karinajohnson97/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/BTBchZtgUbF/?hl=en[/URL][/QUOTE]I would rate Marie a 7 and Anna a 6. The others would not get my attention.
[QUOTE=RainMania;2353448]I guess it's easy to have those kind of worries when you're used to fishing at or from near the bottom of the barrel.
If you can take your pinay girl (s) scuba diving, island hopping, island getaways and even on international travels, which many mongers have done successfully, what's the challenge of a few days cruise on a private yacht?
I can understand if you only go for bar girls, street girls and the airheads on PL / DIA / FB, yeah girls from that world wouldn't bode well on a yacht getaway for a few days, especially if you haven't vetted them and their friends thoroughly. Someone looking to drop $10 k shouldn't be looking in that direction in the first place.
But if you set your sights a little higher, there is a world of endless possibilities out there:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/pandorakaaki/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/annabanana_peregrination/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/iamsweetmarie/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/karinajohnson97/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/BTBchZtgUbF/?hl=en[/URL][/QUOTE]Did you meet up with any of them?
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2353229]This is not Miami where you would pile 10 hot latina babes in string bikinis onto your 65 foot Sunseeker and go cruising.
I could not think of anything worse than being trapped in a rickety old boat on Manila waters with a bunch of stupid Pinay hookers. It's all academic really. Can you imagine getting them all to assemble at the pier on time? Half of them would be on menstruation duty, some would be throwing up and a few would be totally paralytic after drinking red horse in the sun.[/QUOTE]Agreed. On the surface it's a nice idea, until you remember that it's the Philippines we're talking about.
[QUOTE=ImAGuy;2354494]Agreed. On the surface it's a nice idea, until you remember that it's the Philippines we're talking about.[/QUOTE]I asked how to spend serious money on me, not on hookers and the best folk cold come up with is hire a hooker (a form of fishing boat) and fill it full of hookers (a form of starfish).
My take on the replies is gambling in Las Vegas versus tacky Indian reservations. One allows you to be The Man and burn money, the other is just tacky.
The Philippines is not the place to play The Man unless you have very serious coin. Alas, it also seems to be lacking in accumulating physical goods. They just seem to want beach bums and mongers. Maybe Uganda is better?
[QUOTE=ImAGuy;2354483]Did you meet up with any of them?[/QUOTE]Pandorakaai goes for 15 k for a few hrs, if you can get a hold of her. Nice enough girl, ok performance.
The others I haven't been able to get a hold of.
This one below used to go for 10 k, but she's since found herself a very wealthy sponsor and is out of the game for now.
[QUOTE=RainMania;2354541]Pandorakaai goes for 15 k for a few hrs, if you can get a hold of her.[/QUOTE]Is she hard to get hold of due to her international travel schedule, being solidly booked out by other mongers or does she not reply to her messages?
Do you just contact her on IG or does she make public her Whats App number?
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2353229]This is not Miami where you would pile 10 hot latina babes in string bikinis onto your 65 foot Sunseeker and go cruising.
I could not think of anything worse than being trapped in a rickety old boat on Manila waters with a bunch of stupid Pinay hookers. It's all academic really. Can you imagine getting them all to assemble at the pier on time? Half of them would be on menstruation duty, some would be throwing up and a few would be totally paralytic after drinking red horse in the sun.[/QUOTE]Not to mention majority of Philippine girls do not know how to swim, how to let loose and enjoy. Their only concern how to get money and go home quickly.
Only Latina girls know how to enjoy life.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2354615]Not to mention majority of Philippine girls do not know how to swim, how to let loose and enjoy. Their only concern how to get money and go home quickly. Only Latina girls know how to enjoy life.[/QUOTE]Maybe the majority, but not the totality. I finally met a nature lover, that hikes like crazy, and swims like a fish, and a decent pair of tits I might add. Not a filly ironing board front and back.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2354614]Is she hard to get hold of due to her international travel schedule, being solidly booked out by other mongers or does she not reply to her messages?
Do you just contact her on IG or does she make public her Whats App number?[/QUOTE]It's a combination of all 3. Plus she travels a ton domestically too, and does a lot of modelling shoots and events. You contact her on IG and hopefully get through the hundreds of messages she gets daily.
I give her 5 more years tops before her popularity drops like a rock. By then she'll probably be asking for double or triple what she's getting now, but will be competing with newer, younger and cheaper girls. If she's smart, which I hope she is, she'll either be saving up like mad and / or investing, and she'll be looking for a wealthy benefactor to hook on a permanent basis. I only know of 2 girls that made those smart moves out of hundreds.
If you can't get a hold of her, there are thousands of other pinays on seeking and IG to choose from. Many of them look just as good or better. This is another one, massive E-cups.
[QUOTE=RainMania;2353448]
But if you set your sights a little higher, there is a world of endless possibilities out there:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/annabanana_peregrination/?hl=en[/URL]
[/QUOTE]I bagged this one, and it was an incredibly disappointing experience. Dull-eyed, monotonous phone scrolling, and when I fucked her, dubious personal hygiene. Paid 5 k for the privilege too because I'm a fucking dummy!
In my experience, how a girl presents herself online rarely represents who she is in real life. Case in point, I met a 29-year-old mother of two a month back, barely uses FB or IG, but man, classy, gorgeous and horny as fuck after a glass of wine. There are hidden gems out there, but you got to turn a lot of rocks to get to them I guess.
[QUOTE=RainMania;2354647]It's a combination of all 3. Plus she travels a ton domestically too, and does a lot of modelling shoots and events. You contact her on IG and hopefully get through the hundreds of messages she gets daily.[/QUOTE]I saw an interview of a porn actress recently where she openly admitted that for the vast majority of such actresses porn represents about 10% of their income and really only functions as a advertising channel for their escorting services.
I don't see IG models as being any different and 15 k for a couple of hours would support that.
[QUOTE=CallSignPapa;2354694]
In my experience, how a girl presents herself online rarely represents who she is in real life. Case in point, I met a 29-year-old mother of two a month back, barely uses FB or IG, but man, classy, gorgeous and horny as fuck after a glass of wine. There are hidden gems out there, but you got to turn a lot of rocks to get to them I guess.[/QUOTE]Amen to that. I met a pina in one of the Phil bars in SG. Jeans and a tshirt. Nursed one Fanta all night. Polite but not overly talkative. No pressure for LDs or to take her home.
I ended up taking her back to the hotel simply because it was late, I was tired and I couldn't be bothered bar hopping.
Back in the room, the tshirt came off to expose a spectacular body and the jeans came off to set free the Energizer Bunny who did her best to kill me. A truly memorable experience.
As the say, 'don't judge a book by its cover'.
[QUOTE=CallSignPapa;2354694]
In my experience, how a girl presents herself online rarely represents who she is in real life. Case in point, I met a 29-year-old mother of two a month back, barely uses FB or IG, but man, classy, gorgeous and horny as fuck after a glass of wine. There are hidden gems out there, but you got to turn a lot of rocks to get to them I guess.[/QUOTE]I partially agree.
One of my ATF is a 29 year old Mother of 3, sporting an ample chest and flat abs at 50.2 kg. Sucks the soul out of me and is insatiable. Stays overnight and keeps coming back for more. 2 k per LT stay. But she's also pretty active online. I've had my fair share disappointments choosing the most impressive online profiles, but I've also had even more successes with this method.
Most of my PH ATFs have come from girls on seeking, all of them between 19 and 24. Especially the model-looking ones with something functioning between their ears, I just have a much better overall time with them.
Your experience with anabanana is unfortunate, but thanks for the heads up. At least most of us know to give her a pass.
Wishing you more luck in the future.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2354696]I saw an interview of a porn actress recently where she openly admitted that for the vast majority of such actresses porn represents about 10% of their income and really only functions as a advertising channel for their escorting services.
I don't see IG models as being any different and 15 k for a couple of hours would support that.[/QUOTE]90%+ of IG 'models' in PH are offering services. It depends on whether you can get to them and whether your offer meets or surpasses what they usually get.
In terms of the fuck experience, it's a mixed bag. If you two vibe, it could be heavenly. If there is no connection, it'll be meh at best. But you still get to fuck (and probably creampie) a hot ass girl LOL.
[QUOTE=CallSignPapa;2354694]I bagged this one, and it was an incredibly disappointing experience. Dull-eyed, monotonous phone scrolling, and when I fucked her, dubious personal hygiene. Paid 5 k for the privilege too because I'm a fucking dummy!
In my experience, how a girl presents herself online rarely represents who she is in real life. Case in point, I met a 29-year-old mother of two a month back, barely uses FB or IG, but man, classy, gorgeous and horny as fuck after a glass of wine. There are hidden gems out there, but you got to turn a lot of rocks to get to them I guess.[/QUOTE]Was this 5 k peso which is very reasonable or 5 k usd which is not reasonable for the Philippines.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2354696]I saw an interview of a porn actress recently where she openly admitted that for the vast majority of such actresses porn represents about 10% of their income and really only functions as a advertising channel for their escorting services.
I don't see IG models as being any different and 15 k for a couple of hours would support that.[/QUOTE]I saw that chick on Andrew Schulz. But that is something I have known for years. They only get $500 to make a movie then they tour around to strip clubs, so that is to be expected.
What is an IG model? Some chick that dresses up (or dresses off) and takes nice pictures to post on the internet? No way I would give them hoes 15K. Shit for $200 more you can make your own damn movie.
Like CSP said that chick he gave 5K to was boring and had nasty hygiene. You can't tell that kind of stuff from glamor shots. I could never base my desire for a chick just off seeing a couple of pictures that it took her 1000 tries to get. This kind of fuckery could have never taken place in the age where you had to pay for film. Those broke ass hoes could not even afford the pictures back then.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2354776]Was this 5 k peso which is very reasonable or 5 k usd which is not reasonable for the Philippines.[/QUOTE]My friend, there is not a girl on this planet I would pay 5 k USD for.
If I recall, the girl in question quoted 10 k originally, but given I was staying in a suite at the Shangri-La and she wanted some Instragrammable moments, got her down to 5 k PHP for the night. In the end she arrived at 7 pm and left before midnight at my not so subtle prompting ("would you like me to call you a grab honey?).
[QUOTE=Goferring;2296009]Many repeat visitors, myself included, find weeks or months of pre work online a total waste of effort. I don't even send a message now until I'm sitting in a hotel in PH.[/QUOTE]I have a couple schools of thought on this one. If I am looking for a regular chick then sure I will be on sites weeks or months ahead of time because I am getting to know someone genuinely. But if I am looking for someone to pay then it is really a waste of time. A lot of pay chicks will not even talk to you unless you are in the city. And it makes perfect sense. They are there trying to scrounge up business, while the lonely Joe on the other side of the world is messaging her everyday with mundane conversation.
For example, I was in a very busy gun shop in my city a few weeks back when the phone rang. One of the ladies that was helping me looked at the caller ID and told another lady, "It's him. " She answered it and after a couple of questions passed the phone to the other lady. She explained to me that this guy calls every few days and asks a couple of questions about guns then he wants to chat to this other lady about bullshit for 20 minutes. I told her that she needed to tell him that they were busy trying to run a business. Same things with these chicks. They are trying to sell pussy and you are taking up their time with bullshit.
Another reason it makes no sense is because when you are planning shit ahead you are going to get the retail price. The retail price is much different than when you are on the ground with cash in hand. Call down to the dealership and ask how much for a certain car. Now show up at the same place with a cashier's check ready to fill out and see what price you can get it for.
And yet another reason, you are talking to some chick that is subject to be nowhere around by the time you get there. If you are paying, work with what you have in front of you at the present, not with what you hope to get at some later date.
We speak about idiots thinking with their todger and being totally stupid which leads to being fleeced royally by a sweet innocent looking thing. But this guy takes the trophy IMHO as not only did he lose over US $300 k but he went back for more and invited her to the USA also (where no doubt she will screw him over more so and see lots of nice Americans to paly with as well LOL).
[URL]https://philippineslifestyle.com/fake-kidnap-husband-forgives/[/URL]
Make you wonder what she puts in his coffee each day that he is so stupid.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2358242]We speak about idiots thinking with their todger and being totally stupid which leads to being fleeced royally by a sweet innocent looking thing. But this guy takes the trophy IMHO as not only did he lose over US $300 k but he went back for more and invited her to the USA also (where no doubt she will screw him over more so and see lots of nice Americans to paly with as well LOL).
[URL]https://philippineslifestyle.com/fake-kidnap-husband-forgives/[/URL]
Make you wonder what she puts in his coffee each day that he is so stupid.[/QUOTE]I note that Duterte now bans Pinay maids from working in Kuwait. This sure is one lucky woman who's now hit the green card jackpot. She sure must be a good root.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2358242]We speak about idiots thinking with their todger and being totally stupid which leads to being fleeced royally by a sweet innocent looking thing. But this guy takes the trophy IMHO as not only did he lose over US $300 k but he went back for more and invited her to the USA also (where no doubt she will screw him over more so and see lots of nice Americans to paly with as well LOL).
[URL]https://philippineslifestyle.com/fake-kidnap-husband-forgives/[/URL]
Make you wonder what she puts in his coffee each day that he is so stupid.[/QUOTE]Hey! Don't be calling me stupid. LOL. I kept her out of jail so I could get a $1,000,000 life insurance policy on her.
True 💘.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2358270]I note that Duterte now bans Pinay maids from working in Kuwait. This sure is one lucky woman who's now hit the green card jackpot. She sure must be a good root.[/QUOTE]They are banned for good reasons ED. Plenty of news on those dead, in freezers etc.
She hit more than the jackpot as the guy clearly is a moron after being ripped off that bad and then gets her to USA.
She will have lots of fun and he will lots poorer.
Each to their own I suppose LOL.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2358357]She hit more than the jackpot as the guy clearly is a moron after being ripped off that bad and then gets her to USA..[/QUOTE]There is probably more we don't know. What was the arrangement to quit her job and go back.
Where was he getting the lazy cash which he is so easy to right off without a fight.
Probably lots of double crossing.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2358270]I note that Duterte now bans Pinay maids from working in Kuwait. This sure is one lucky woman who's now hit the green card jackpot. She sure must be a good root.[/QUOTE]I have some knowledge of OFW experiences. OFWs working in the middle east are frequently required to sexually submit to her employer. This is even sometimes covered in initial employee / employer interview but not always which leads to problems when employee learns job requirement after landing. This expectation is not found nearly as often in other geographic regions of the world and is quite rare outside the middle east.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2359463]There is probably more we don't know. What was the arrangement to quit her job and go back.
Where was he getting the lazy cash which he is so easy to right off without a fight.
Probably lots of double crossing.[/QUOTE]An Oily working in the Middle East for many years could easily amass $300 k as long as he didn't blow it on Russian hookers.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2359948]An Oily working in the Middle East for many years could easily amass $300 k as long as he didn't blow it on Russian hookers.[/QUOTE]I agree with that. I'm thinking he is just too quick to forget.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2359931]I have some knowledge of OFW experiences. OFWs working in the middle east are frequently required to sexually submit to her employer. This is even sometimes covered in initial employee / employer interview but not always which leads to problems when employee learns job requirement after landing. This expectation is not found nearly as often in other geographic regions of the world and is quite rare outside the middle east.[/QUOTE]Personally know three pretty girls who went to Middle East (would not name the country) hired as domestics who said their employer asked for sexual favors. Employer did have three or more wives and few kids. One submitted and others claim to have rebuffed. Do not know the truth. One who submitted said she did not get any extra money or benefits.
Nowadays Philippine government is very strict taking all complaints seriously and will repatriate girls regardless of the contract.
Sexual favors still play in most countries to get ahead.
In other countries like Taiwan, Korea, Japan And Europe it is not common.
Are they easy targets in Middle East? , yes because men there can do whatever they want and poor girls who depend on the job may not have any options.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2360001]Personally know three pretty girls who went to Middle East (would not name the country) hired as domestics who said their employer asked for sexual favors. Employer did have three or more wives and few kids. One submitted and others claim to have rebuffed. Do not know the truth. One who submitted said she did not get any extra money or benefits.
Nowadays Philippine government is very strict taking all complaints seriously and will repatriate girls regardless of the contract.
Are they easy targets in Middle East? , yes because men there can do whatever they want and poor girls who depend on the job may not have any options.[/QUOTE]I have plenty similar stories Sammon. Some are shared with the male members of the extended family also!.
Even helped one get to the Philippine Embassy to get away from the employer who was really nasty. The recruiter? Was a pinoy firm based in the UAE! They took her passport (illegal) and halved the salary on arrival (illegal) and made her pay her visa and airfare costs (illegal) so she was in massive debt before she started.
When my lady at the time (another pinay) took her to the 'rescue house' there were 34 other pinays there. I called the UAE based recruiter and pointed out facts who then threatened to come to my office. I told them the location and name of my boss and they very quickly disappeared.
Still happens I am sure and in Saudi was newspaper reports of Embassy staff being involved in the racket. As I say to people pinoys with crap on pinoys if money is involved. Sad! I know a generalization but I have seen this many times both in the UAE, Saudi and the Philippines.
The girl was repatriated and all was OK but she had debts in the Philippines to agents!
You are correct that the government now is tougher (example is Kuwait) but I tell any pinay who dream of a DH job in the Middle East to not go (if family western maybe OK) but the obs are mainly to local families.
I am trying to get hold of some Viagra (or Sidegra) in Cebu, apparently you can get it from some pharmacies without a prescription but most insist on a prescription and I have yet to find one that will let you have it without a prescription. The last two pharmacies I went into declined my order for Viagra, but both recommended a product called Robust (see pic) and said it has the same effect.
Has anyone tried it, and if so would you recommend it? I have tried Viagra and Sidegra and both work extremely well for me, but I am reluctant to fork out money for Robust as I had never heard of it, the labelling on the pack said it was a 'dietary supplement'. It comes in two 'strengths' the pic I have uploaded here is the extreme version and apparently a stronger version of the basic version of Robust.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2366115]I am trying to get hold of some Viagra (or Sidegra) in Cebu, apparently you can get it from some pharmacies without a prescription but most insist on a prescription and I have yet to find one that will let you have it without a prescription. The last two pharmacies I went into declined my order for Viagra, but both recommended a product called Robust (see pic) and said it has the same effect.
Has anyone tried it, and if so would you recommend it? I have tried Viagra and Sidegra and both work extremely well for me, but I am reluctant to fork out money for Robust as I had never heard of it, the labelling on the pack said it was a 'dietary supplement'. It comes in two 'strengths' the pic I have uploaded here is the extreme version and apparently a stronger version of the basic version of Robust.[/QUOTE]NO APPROVED THERAPEUTIC CLAIMS should be a warning.
Most of these products might work after a long course, but don't seem to give instantaneous result you are after.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2366115]I am trying to get hold of some Viagra (or Sidegra) in Cebu, apparently you can get it from some pharmacies without a prescription but most insist on a prescription and I have yet to find one that will let you have it without a prescription. The last two pharmacies I went into declined my order for Viagra, but both recommended a product called Robust (see pic) and said it has the same effect.
Has anyone tried it, and if so would you recommend it? I have tried Viagra and Sidegra and both work extremely well for me, but I am reluctant to fork out money for Robust as I had never heard of it, the labelling on the pack said it was a 'dietary supplement'. It comes in two 'strengths' the pic I have uploaded here is the extreme version and apparently a stronger version of the basic version of Robust.[/QUOTE]I had same issue when I was in Manila a couple of months ago. I did get supplied sidegra from 2 different Mercury stores and had luck also with stores that advertised generics.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2366115]I am trying to get hold of some Viagra (or Sidegra) in Cebu, apparently you can get it from some pharmacies without a prescription but most insist on a prescription and I have yet to find one that will let you have it without a prescription. The last two pharmacies I went into declined my order for Viagra, but both recommended a product called Robust (see pic) and said it has the same effect.
Has anyone tried it, and if so would you recommend it? I have tried Viagra and Sidegra and both work extremely well for me, but I am reluctant to fork out money for Robust as I had never heard of it, the labelling on the pack said it was a 'dietary supplement'. It comes in two 'strengths' the pic I have uploaded here is the extreme version and apparently a stronger version of the basic version of Robust.[/QUOTE]Are you trying the big pharmacies or the Generic Pharmacies.
Please go to a Generics or smaller pharmacies. Ask for sildenafil as a generic.
No need for a script.
PP.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2366301]Are you trying the big pharmacies or the Generic Pharmacies.
Please go to a Generics or smaller pharmacies. Ask for sildenafil as a generic.
No need for a script.
PP.[/QUOTE]One of the best known generic outfits is The Generics Pharmacy. I took a quick online check in Cebu and found at least 20 locations. I have purchased from them only in Manila, but have never been asked for a prescription. They sell a 100 MG. Generic viagra named Spiagra for about 50 pesos each. It works for me. Depending on your age, half a tab may be sufficient. They may have a couple other forms of generics at slightly higher prices. Only downside is that not all locations stock it. You may want to go on their website and go prepared with names of alternative product names, and if your first choice is unavailable, ask for one of the others. Or, as PP suggests, just ask for a sildenafil generic.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2366115]Has anyone tried it, and if so would you recommend it? I have tried Viagra and Sidegra and both work extremely well for me, but I am reluctant to fork out money for Robust as I had never heard of it, the labelling on the pack said it was a 'dietary supplement'. It comes in two 'strengths' the pic I have uploaded here is the extreme version and apparently a stronger version of the basic version of Robust.[/QUOTE]Others posters give good advice as when you go to a Watsons etc it will ask for a Rx aka prescription. You could try and say I forgot to bring from USA and show them a box but this is less and less an effective way to get.
But Robust is OK I know many who use this also.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2366365]One of the best known generic outfits is The Generics Pharmacy.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the replies. I had never heard of the Generics Pharmacy, I did a quick search on Google Maps in Cebu City and found a branch at Fuente Circle. It's in a small row of shops, accessed via an alleyway just to the right of the KFC restaurant. They offered me Spiagra and Tigerfil (see pics) both manufactured in India. No prescription was asked for, Spiagra 10 x 100 MG was PHP550 (55 per 100 MG) and Tigerfil was 4 x 50 MG for 300 (150 per 100 MG, 3 times the price of Spiagra). Being a bit of a cheap charlie I choose the Spiagra.
Manila will get a new Airport:
[URL]https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1077896[/URL]
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2366650]Manila will get a new Airport:
[URL]https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1077896[/URL][/QUOTE]Anyone with some knowledge of airports and aviation will tell you that this looks like a scam from the word go. For an airport than can handle 100 mn passengers with 4 runways takes a bit longer than 4-6 years to become operational. I think that might be the amount of time required to take possession of the land and clear it for construction. LOL.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2366650]Manila will get a new Airport:
[URL]https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1077896[/URL][/QUOTE]In about 10 years if we are lucky and is it the right location and will the infrastructure meet the needs of passengers to get to the city.
The new airport has been around many years and nothing really happened. Under the current president he is at least pushing for huge infrastructure projects.
But this is the Philippines so if will take time I think.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2366650]Manila will get a new Airport:
[URL]https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1077896[/URL][/QUOTE]Would have to go to a Philippines corp with considerable connections. After the NAIA T3 fiasco I cannot imagine too many international consortium would want to bid.
[URL]https://philippineslifestyle.com/german-builders-of-manila-airport-terminal-compensated-after-14-years/[/URL]
Someone recently posted a comment under one of the Philippine general-travel YouTube videos, warning of undercover cops, male and female, busting both Johns and hoes. Has anyone witnessed or heard any evidence of this? Not another one of Duterte's instant-justice campaigns, I hope! Adult prostitution IS illegal but a blind eye is normally turned.
[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2367258]Someone recently posted a comment under one of the Philippine general-travel YouTube videos, warning of undercover cops, male and female, busting both Johns and hoes. Has anyone witnessed or heard any evidence of this? Not another one of Duterte's instant-justice campaigns, I hope! Adult prostitution IS illegal but a blind eye is normally turned.[/QUOTE]Someone somewhere posted something.
Do you believe everything that you read in youtube comments?
Check the posing history of people upon which you read comments.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2367003]Would have to go to a Philippines corp with considerable connections. After the NAIA T3 fiasco I cannot imagine too many international consortium would want to bid.
[URL]https://philippineslifestyle.com/german-builders-of-manila-airport-terminal-compensated-after-14-years/[/URL][/QUOTE]This is an ongoing problem with projects in third world and near third world countries.
The local people managing the program are unfamiliar with the rules governing contracting and like to think that they can order around the contractor despite the contracts saying otherwise, they demand contracts to their friends and make other amateur mistakes that will drive up costs. Basically people who have never managed a budget more than a few thousand dollars can be e put in charge of programs worth hundreds of millions or more.
When the multi national development banks. ADB and World Bank, get involved their procedures just make it worse, there is the appearance that because an international organization is involved that things will be above board, often their staff is just as corrupt and incompetent as the local staff, just from a different country, that they do some of the same things then back away saying that they really didn't issue those instructions.
If you want to get away from this then make things like the airport a Public Private Partnership or PPP where the private company, which will be a large international finance organization, builds the airport or port or whatever and then charges the rent and operating fees directly to recoup their money. This happens typically over a period of 25 to 40 years and then the facility is given to the government to continue to operate.
No system is fool proof but when you start off with one that puts the fools in charge you are headed for a disaster.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2367341]Check the posing history of people upon which you read comments.[/QUOTE]PP,
Check his posting history which is mix of comments and questions about curing STDs, asking about hotel, e visas, in Venezuela, Madagascar plus he has been to the Philippines before so why ask this question? 147 FRs of questions and comments and as he has been to the country before (his posted in AC in 2018 some questions about the bar fines) he should know the answer.
But some just love to ask questions as are scared of their own shadow and believe everything on You Tube and Facebook rather than read and research in the real world.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2367361]
If you want to get away from this then make things like the airport a Public Private Partnership or PPP where the private company, which will be a large international finance organization, builds the airport or port or whatever and then charges the rent and operating fees directly to recoup their money. This happens typically over a period of 25 to 40 years and then the facility is given to the government to continue to operate.
[/QUOTE]If a government doesn't have the cash up front, a PPP makes a lot of sense. However, with the rigid enforcement of the UK Bribery Act, the US Foreign Corrupt Practices Act and Section 70.2 of the Criminal Code Act (Australia), most reputable financiers and construction companies from the west would dare not bid for this project. The Chief Hippie from Montreal would probably make a concession for his mates at SNC Lavalin. Only companies from countries with poor corporate governance like Korea and China would be prepared to take it on. Having said that, President Xi would be able to complete this project in record time under his signature belt and road initiative (BRI) if sufficient money was paid into various Swiss bank accounts. I can just see everyone from the Barangay Captain's wife through to the Minister's daughter all lining up for their share of the pie.
The other issue is that agreeing the scope, producing the reference design, working out the airport operator's concessions, embarking on land acquisition and doing the environmental impact assessment could literally take 10-15 years. Officials in the various planning departments would milk this phase of the project such that even their grandkids are set up for life. The other issue with a PPP is sovereign risk. What if the government in the Philippines misses its service payment to the consortium? Abatements would also be onerous.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2367441]PP,
Check his posting history which is mix of comments and questions about curing STDs, asking about hotel, e visas, in Venezuela, Madagascar plus he has been to the Philippines before so why ask this question? 147 FRs of questions and comments and as he has been to the country before (his posted in AC in 2018 some questions about the bar fines) he should know the answer.
But some just love to ask questions as are scared of their own shadow and believe everything on You Tube and Facebook rather than read and research in the real world.[/QUOTE]Hi WR,
I can see that my post did not keep the context. I was suggesting that Trevor2522 be checking the posting history of the Youtube commentators.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2368086]If a government doesn't have the cash up front, a PPP makes a lot of sense. However, .....[/QUOTE]ED.
I fully concur, it is issues like you have raised that will keep most 3rd and near 3rd world countries from developing.
China is dominating the construction business in this part of the world, China looks at the economic expansion into business as just one way of them achieving dominance over a lot of the 3rd world.
Look at what they are doing in Africa, the enter into development agreements with the governments in return for rights to extract the natural resources, they will [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] these countries with no concern for environmental and worker protection in furtherance of their own ends.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2369297]ED.
I fully concur, it is issues like you have raised that will keep most 3rd and near 3rd world countries from developing.
China is dominating the construction business in this part of the world, China looks at the economic expansion into business as just one way of them achieving dominance over a lot of the 3rd world.
Look at what they are doing in Africa, the enter into development agreements with the governments in return for rights to extract the natural resources, they will screw these countries with no concern for environmental and worker protection in furtherance of their own ends.[/QUOTE]A particularly sinister aspect of President Xi's belt and road initiative in African countries is his use of Chinese prisoners as slave labour on road construction projects. Dangerous criminals from China's penal system are shipped on a one way ticket to an African country. There is no repatriation back to China at the end of a project. The prisoners are just let loose to fend for themselves.
This is similar to Castro allowing Cuban criminals to escape to Miami some thirty years ago.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2369352]A particularly sinister aspect of President Xi's belt and road initiative in African countries is his use of Chinese prisoners as slave labour on road construction projects. Dangerous criminals from China's penal system are shipped on a one way ticket to an African country. There is no repatriation back to China at the end of a project. The prisoners are just let loose to fend for themselves.
This is similar to Castro allowing Cuban criminals to escape to Miami some thirty years ago.[/QUOTE]So a country ships its dangerous criminals to the other side of the world with no prospect of return? What could possibly go wrong with that. Think Australia.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2369739]So a country ships its dangerous criminals to the other side of the world with no prospect of return? What could possibly go wrong with that. Think Australia.[/QUOTE]Think the colony / state of Georgia.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2369739]So a country ships its dangerous criminals to the other side of the world with no prospect of return? What could possibly go wrong with that. Think Australia.[/QUOTE]HDI - 1. Norway 2. Australia?
[QUOTE=NewImage;2370006]HDI - 1. Norway 2. Australia?[/QUOTE]If I remember, white history in Australia started in 1788 when England sent 11 ships of criminals to the new land.
I was drawing the parallel to China sending their crims to the African continent.
PP.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2369739]So a country ships its dangerous criminals to the other side of the world with no prospect of return? What could possibly go wrong with that. Think Australia.[/QUOTE]At least they didn't join the organ sales line.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2369739]So a country ships its dangerous criminals to the other side of the world with no prospect of return? What could possibly go wrong with that. Think Australia.[/QUOTE]The criminals who come to Australia aren't prisoners. The come here freely to corrupt politicians.
"Officer, I know she is a little chubby but saying she is a pig is just down right disrespectful. ".
SUAL, Pangasinan, Philippines — A construction worker was arrested for allegedly having sex with an eight-month-old pig in Barangay Bolaoen in this town on Friday.
The suspect is facing charges for violation of Republic Act 8485 or the Animal Welfare Act and grave scandal, police said.
The owner of the pig, Jomar Austria, sought police assistance saying the suspect was caught having sex with his pig in its pen at his backyard.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2370811]"Officer, I know she is a little chubby but saying she is a pig is just down right disrespectful. ".
SUAL, Pangasinan, Philippines A construction worker was arrested for allegedly having sex with an eight-month-old pig in Barangay Bolaoen in this town on Friday.
The suspect is facing charges for violation of Republic Act 8485 or the Animal Welfare Act and grave scandal, police said.
The owner of the pig, Jomar Austria, sought police assistance saying the suspect was caught having sex with his pig in its pen at his backyard.[/QUOTE]Maybe the pig was under the age of consent?
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2370811]The owner of the pig, Jomar Austria, sought police assistance saying the suspect was caught having sex with his pig in its pen at his backyard.[/QUOTE]Main problem was that the punter did not pay Jomar for the privilege.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2370050]If I remember, white history in Australia started in 1788 when England sent 11 ships of criminals to the new land.
...[/QUOTE]Shipping convicts to Australia started after the American revolution when England could no longer send the criminals to the Colonies.
I am researching for a trip to the Philippines Manila is the only international airport that I can use. I will be looking for a chica that I can bring back to my hotel. Any comments.
[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2371205]I am researching for a trip to the Philippines Manila is the only international airport that I can use. I will be looking for a chica that I can bring back to my hotel. Any comments.[/QUOTE]Now a simple reply is RTFF as the Philippine forum contains a wealth of information on what, where, how, who and prices.
And you could fly internationally to Cebu but depends what route, which carrier and where you depart from. Again that is covered in a RTFF as some give ideas of cheaper airline.
Or PM me as there is so much information you have asked for it could a lot of PMs as you break things into smaller bit.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2370935]Main problem was that the punter did not pay Jomar for the privilege.[/QUOTE]How much should I pay for a pig if she's a 7 or 8?
Does anyone know any hotels that are pig friendly?
Any numbers for top quality pigs would be much appreciated.
Thanks. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2371528]How much should I pay for a pig if she's a 7 or 8?
Does anyone know any hotels that are pig friendly?
Any numbers for top quality pigs would be much appreciated.
Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]Sow what? Apparently there was another guy there who was spit roasting but he got away.
[URL]https://www.vice.com/en_asia/article/zmj3yy/philippines-pretty-traffic-enforcers-sexism?utm_source=digg&utm_medium=email[/URL]
Seems the Phils Hwy Patrol are hiring hotties:
A news report quoted the country's traffic chief as saying, "They're not just like any other police officers, they're like models. They're really pretty. They are really head turners. " and 'The qualifications for the job? That they're "girlfriend material. " '.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2371830][URL]https://www.vice.com/en_asia/article/zmj3yy/philippines-pretty-traffic-enforcers-sexism?utm_source=digg&utm_medium=email[/URL]
Seems the Phils Hwy Patrol are hiring hotties:
A news report quoted the country's traffic chief as saying, "They're not just like any other police officers, they're like models. They're really pretty. They are really head turners. " and 'The qualifications for the job? That they're "girlfriend material. " '.[/QUOTE]They might have a great president when it comes to crime but their treatment of females is just not right. Do these idiots not have sisters, daughters and mums. I know there will be heaps of smart arse comments here, but at the moderate end of the offensive scale, this type of stuff and the wider treatment of females in Phils is just not acceptable.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2371830][URL]https://www.vice.com/en_asia/article/zmj3yy/philippines-pretty-traffic-enforcers-sexism?utm_source=digg&utm_medium=email[/URL]
Seems the Phils Hwy Patrol are hiring hotties:
A news report quoted the country's traffic chief as saying, "They're not just like any other police officers, they're like models. They're really pretty. They are really head turners. " and 'The qualifications for the job? That they're "girlfriend material. " '.[/QUOTE]I am still in love with the last female toll operator that I saw on the Nlex toll station.
[QUOTE=Sidtip;2371946]They might have a great president when it comes to crime but their treatment of females is just not right. Do these idiots not have sisters, daughters and mums. I know there will be heaps of smart arse comments here, but at the moderate end of the offensive scale, this type of stuff and the wider treatment of females in Phils is just not acceptable.[/QUOTE]Come to think of it the man in the Oval Office endorses grabbing pussies too. They would make a great pair.
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[QUOTE=Sidtip;2371946]They might have a great president when it comes to crime but their treatment of females is just not right. Do these idiots not have sisters, daughters and mums. I know there will be heaps of smart arse comments here, but at the moderate end of the offensive scale, this type of stuff and the wider treatment of females in Phils is just not acceptable.[/QUOTE]Why do you consider the employ of pretty, female traffic cops unacceptable? I don't see any potential, negative results in doing so. If it works, it both empowers the pretty female cops and reduces traffic problems. I hope it does both. You're right in that women's rights in the Phils could use great improvement. On the other hand, they have to empower themselves to be smart enough to not become victims.
Who is their best source of empowerment while growing up? Perhaps their fathers are. They need to teach their daughters to be strong as I did for mine.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2373376]W
Who is their best source of empowerment while growing up? Perhaps their fathers are. They need to teach their daughters to be strong as I did for mine.[/QUOTE]That is a lot harder in countries that are male dominated and the girls are still treated like second class citizens. Western countries have become more civilized. These places are still decades behind. There is nothing wrong with hiring pretty girls and that is a good thing. But I think you know that their philosophy is shit.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2373376]Why do you consider the employ of pretty, female traffic cops unacceptable? I don't see any potential, negative results in doing so. If it works, it both empowers the pretty female cops and reduces traffic problems. I hope it does both. You're right in that women's rights in the Phils could use great improvement. On the other hand, they have to empower themselves to be smart enough to not become victims.
Who is their best source of empowerment while growing up? Perhaps their fathers are. They need to teach their daughters to be strong as I did for mine.[/QUOTE]Filipinas are empowered. The power is in their pussies, which foreign mongers travel across the world to pay for at great expense. These empowered pussies have foreign men spending their last buying houses and building businesses in their names. Filipina pussy power fleeces millions from horny and lovesick suckers each year. Old foreign men throw caution and reason aside to take these empowered little cocksuckers back to their homeland with them, against the advice of family and trusted friends.
Filipinas are more empowered than Western women are because they know how to make men feel in charge, sucking their cocks and bank accounts dry before the men realize they fell into a Venus fly-trap. Unlike loud Western feminists, Filipinas use the soft power in their pussies to twist the white man's cock.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2373376]Why do you consider the employ of pretty, female traffic cops unacceptable? I don't see any potential, negative results in doing so. If it works, it both empowers the pretty female cops and reduces traffic problems. I hope it does both. You're right in that women's rights in the Phils could use great improvement. On the other hand, they have to empower themselves to be smart enough to not become victims..[/QUOTE]There are big problems with this:
Obvious discrimination against males, older females and less attractive females. "Beauty' is not a required attribute for performing the job function.
With the philosophy around the woman's looks instead of her knowledge of traffic and parking law it's hiring the wrong skills for a job.
As an employer I have hired beauties at trade shows where I wanted the eye catching attraction. Even then I found I got lots of male mongers instead of 'buyers'.
In Cebu once I saw an Advert for a "Pharmacist, must be under 23, female and attractive". I would prefer my Pharmacists to be intelligent, top of the class and experienced.
Where is the best place to go to monger in the Philippines.
I don't want quantity I want quality at a reasonable price.
Some nice restaurants and a nice hotel 4 stars would be great too.
Any local willing to pass on some advice and hotels to stay would be great.
Thanks for your help.
Sly.
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n7il8ECjasg[/URL]
A microcosm of Filipino overcrowding, filth (cock roaches crawling on food and date still wanted to eat there) and ineptitude just went up in smoke. Couldn't happen soon enough.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2373740]Filipinas are empowered. The power is in their pussies, which foreign mongers travel across the world to pay for at great expense. These empowered pussies have foreign men spending their last buying houses and building businesses in their names. Filipina pussy power fleeces millions from horny and lovesick suckers each year. Old foreign men throw caution and reason aside to take these empowered little cocksuckers back to their homeland with them, against the advice of family and trusted friends.
Filipinas are more empowered than Western women are because they know how to make men feel in charge, sucking their cocks and bank accounts dry before the men realize they fell into a Venus fly-trap. Unlike loud Western feminists, Filipinas use the soft power in their pussies to twist the white man's cock.[/QUOTE]I read the post first, then looked to see who wrote it. Very well written, excellent post, and encapsulated the whole scenario there and then. "They know how to make men feel in charge" . That's it. All the while, sucking their cocks and emptying their bank accounts as you say. In Western World you know if its happening, in Phils, you do not. Beware lads!
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2373376]Why do you consider the employ of pretty, female traffic cops unacceptable? I don't see any potential, negative results in doing so. If it works, it both empowers the pretty female cops and reduces traffic problems. I hope it does both. You're right in that women's rights in the Phils could use great improvement. On the other hand, they have to empower themselves to be smart enough to not become victims.
Who is their best source of empowerment while growing up? Perhaps their fathers are. They need to teach their daughters to be strong as I did for mine.[/QUOTE]I just bought a car, the sales agent was young, very pretty, wore a really short skirt and was very high on the fuckable scale.
Except she was an absolute idiot and knew absolutely nothing about cars, in almost 50 years of buying and selling cars, including fleet purchases and lots of construction equipment, this was by far the worst buying experience of my life.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2377821]I just bought a car, the sales agent was young, very pretty, wore a really short skirt and was very high on the fuckable scale.
Except she was an absolute idiot and knew absolutely nothing about cars, in almost 50 years of buying and selling cars, including fleet purchases and lots of construction equipment, this was by far the worst buying experience of my life.[/QUOTE]Well done. You got the car, the chick got the commission, so everyone is happy. Apart from the Japanese, I have found that Asians in general know nothing about cars. Price is all that matters.
So what's next? A house? Marriage?
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2377896]Well done. You got the car, the chick got the commission, so everyone is happy. Apart from the Japanese, I have found that Asians in general know nothing about cars. Price is all that matters.
So what's next? A house? Marriage?[/QUOTE]Nope, my plan is to spend a month or so in a place then move on. I want to take some time and explore different places to find a place to more or less settle down in. Settling down might just be a 6 month stay instead of a 1 month which is better than the few days with no transportation that I have been doing.
Everyone, myself included, always rants about how good a girl fresh from the provinces can be. They can be very sweet if you get then before they get too jaded so I thought I'd just go to the source.
Beaches, scuba and farm fresh pussy.
Worth a try at least.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2377821]I just bought a car, the sales agent was young, very pretty, wore a really short skirt and was very high on the fuckable scale.
Except she was an absolute idiot and knew absolutely nothing about cars, in almost 50 years of buying and selling cars, including fleet purchases and lots of construction equipment, this was by far the worst buying experience of my life.[/QUOTE]Your experience is my rationale for buying nothing but Hondas here. They're reliable, but likely no more so than other, comparable brands. My justification is that the one sales guy I found who actually knows what he's talking about works for a local Honda dealer; that plus the fact that the guy in charge of service also really knows his stuff. Having been here for years, and regardless of the product involved, I've decided that once you find the rara avis who knows his stuff and provides decent service, you stay with it.
GE.
Is still happening:
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/05/british-national-and-his-wife-kidnapped-in-southern-philippines[/URL]
Anybody used the business lounge at MNL. Flying PAL 23:30. Decent food? Relatively comfortable? Any pos / neg?
Appreciate.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2378566]Anybody used the business lounge at MNL. Flying PAL 23:30. Decent food? Relatively comfortable? Any pos / neg?
Appreciate.[/QUOTE]Well, walked thru, smelled funny, hotter than the terminal. Nothing good to eat. Walked out.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2378566]Anybody used the business lounge at MNL. Flying PAL 23:30. Decent food? Relatively comfortable? Any pos / neg?
Appreciate.[/QUOTE]As you would expect of a PAL lounge the offering was rather spartan. I too had a late night flight back to BNE. I recall I had a meal from the Filipino style buffet. Standard drinks in the fridge. Was pretty well all help yourself.
One good thing is that the lounge is well located for the Australia departures.
PP.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2378566]Anybody used the business lounge at MNL. Flying PAL 23:30. Decent food? Relatively comfortable? Any pos / neg?
Appreciate.[/QUOTE]Well, walked thru, smelled funny, hotter than the terminal. Nothing good to eat. Walked out.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2378566]Anybody used the business lounge at MNL. Flying PAL 23:30. Decent food? Relatively comfortable? Any pos / neg?
Appreciate.[/QUOTE]No comment on the PAL lounge but the Wings Lounge in T3 is well worth the 1 K if anyone has a long stopover. For 1 K you get lounge, capsule room, bed, toiletries, shower, snacks and more importantly separation from the million other people in the building.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2378601]No comment on the PAL lounge but the Wings Lounge in T3 is well worth the 1 K if anyone has a long stopover. For 1 K you get lounge, capsule room, bed, toiletries, shower, snacks and more importantly separation from the million other people in the building.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]They really improved the PAL lounge. I like the food and drinks.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2378566]Anybody used the business lounge at MNL. Flying PAL 23:30. Decent food? Relatively comfortable? Any pos / neg?
Appreciate.[/QUOTE]As business lounges go it is nothing special. Not bad just not really special.
More in common with Air Canada in Toronto than say Turkish Air in Istanbul. If you have gone through Frankfurt flying Star Alliance flights, think the low level lounges not the ones for true frequent flyers or first class.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2378108]Is still happening:
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/05/british-national-and-his-wife-kidnapped-in-southern-philippines[/URL][/QUOTE]As the article says he and wife are the owners of the resort. Anyone with any wealth is always a target in Ph, not just Mindanao.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2378108]Is still happening:
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/05/british-national-and-his-wife-kidnapped-in-southern-philippines[/URL][/QUOTE]I posted something similar in the Davao thread but was attacked for doing so. There are a lot of dodgy foreigners knocking about and I am not speaking of monger types. Others are posting about VIP lounges at airports. Mixing with the masses can be good to see who else is there in the way of dodgy foreigners.
Your report is interesting as it confirms my spotter thesis. Two of them checked in, waited for their targets to show up, then got the cavalry to appear.
One general lesson is not to flash cash and to stay off all radars. I am not painting it out as the battle of Stalingrad but if you end up tied and bound in a speed boat with an AK47 trained on you, it is not good. Angeles has its own Muggers Alleys and so on.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2378566]Anybody used the business lounge at MNL. Flying PAL 23:30. Decent food? Relatively comfortable? Any pos / neg?
Appreciate.[/QUOTE]Like others have said, nothing special about the lounge, food is meh, WiFi is hit or miss, but at least the alcohol flows freely!
QUOTE=Goferring;2378601 No comment on the PAL lounge but the Wings Lounge in T3 is well worth the 1 K if anyone has a long stopover. For 1 K you get lounge, capsule room, bed, toiletries, shower, snacks and more importantly separation from the million other people in the building.
Cheers. G. QUOTE]Good to know, G. Thanks.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2378566]Anybody used the business lounge at MNL. Flying PAL 23:30. Decent food? Relatively comfortable? Any pos / neg?
Appreciate.[/QUOTE]It's a toilet. Eat up big prior to getting to the airport IMHO.
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2378108]Is still happening:
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/05/british-national-and-his-wife-kidnapped-in-southern-philippines[/URL][/QUOTE]Moral of the story, as a foreigner keep your money making ventures in PH to the bare minimum. Preferably zero business ties if possible. Plenty of foreigners (western and Asian) have been kidnapped and / or seen their demise because of their local business partners' greed.
[QUOTE=RainMania;2378960]Moral of the story, as a foreigner keep your money making ventures in PH to the bare minimum. Preferably zero business ties if possible. Plenty of foreigners (western and Asian) have been kidnapped and / or seen their demise because of their local business partners' greed.[/QUOTE]A significant number of kidnapped persons have not been business people. Kidnappers try and source money from kidnapped persons government, or family members in the form of ransoms.
Religion seems to be the main driver. 'Them' kidnapping Christians. Moral of the story. Keep out of Mindanao!
Anyone got an uber recently from Manila to Angeles? Taxi would be 3000 I assume? Uber cheaper obviously. What about Manila to Batangas pier?
Does it matter where from in manila. Firstly stay near Robinson Place then Burgos St.
What are reasonable prices?
Appreciate.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2379016]Anyone got an uber recently from Manila to Angeles? Taxi would be 3000 I assume? Uber cheaper obviously. What about Manila to Batangas pier?
Does it matter where from in manila. Firstly stay near Robinson Place then Burgos St.
What are reasonable prices?
Appreciate.[/QUOTE]Uber no longer exists in Ph and when it did it was more expensive than taxi.
Just catch Grab and it is a fixed price.
Manila is a big place. A fare from Resorts World Makati will be a different price than from SM City North EDSA as will time of day and traffic.
It's not something that you have to worry about. It's going to be between A $5 and A $30.
PP.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2379016]Anyone got an uber recently from Manila to Angeles? Taxi would be 3000 I assume? Uber cheaper obviously. What about Manila to Batangas pier?
Does it matter where from in manila. Firstly stay near Robinson Place then Burgos St.
What are reasonable prices?
Appreciate.[/QUOTE]They do not have Uber, they have Grab (who bought out Uber a couple years ago.) Last time I tried to take it from Angeles to Manila they said they did not go that far.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2379058]They do not have Uber, they have Grab (who bought out Uber a couple years ago.) Last time I tried to take it from Angeles to Manila they said they did not go that far.[/QUOTE]Took a taxi to AC a few years back. Taxi broke down in a cloud of smoke just outside Manila. Driver called a colleague who picked us up. His taxi broke down with a gut wrenching sound after another hour. Had to take a tricycle from God-knows-where to AC. I don't think the taxis of Manila are the best maintained vehicles in the world. Doubt if Grab is any better. Good for local rides in the city. Stick with buses.
[QUOTE=ElTed;2379072] I don't think the taxis of Manila are the best maintained vehicles in the world. Doubt if Grab is any better. Good for local rides in the city. Stick with buses.[/QUOTE]In 45 yrs of catching taxis in Phils, never had one break down on me. Touch wood. But their hairy way of driving along that highway Manila to AC, whether taxi or 'private' sedan, causes some concern. Recently I had a bad experience with a sturdy bus service, but think, after your post, viz, 'break down' , and 'hairy rides' , I might go back to the buses, which one would think are serviced more regularly. Taxis swap from one drivers shift to another, with no time, or cash flow lost = servicing most probably compromised. Will try buses again, but not Genesis, which I wrote about in Angeles thread couple of weeks ago.
Never thought of a break down, but now you mention it, why not? LOL.
[QUOTE=Mdemde;2366115]I am trying to get hold of some Viagra (or Sidegra) in Cebu, apparently you can get it from some pharmacies without a prescription but most insist on a prescription and I have yet to find one that will let you have it without a prescription. The last two pharmacies I went into declined my order for Viagra, but both recommended a product called Robust (see pic) and said it has the same effect.
Has anyone tried it, and if so would you recommend it? I have tried Viagra and Sidegra and both work extremely well for me, but I am reluctant to fork out money for Robust as I had never heard of it, the labelling on the pack said it was a 'dietary supplement'. It comes in two 'strengths' the pic I have uploaded here is the extreme version and apparently a stronger version of the basic version of Robust.[/QUOTE]I suggest that you go to a clinic (400 P) for less than 10 USD and get a prescription for generic sildenafil and go to mercury drug to get it filled for 250 per tab. It works great. Keep the script for another fill. I usually tell them to make the prescription for 100 with a big smile and say that my wife keeps me up late.
[QUOTE=ElTed;2379072]Took a taxi to AC a few years back. Taxi broke down in a cloud of smoke just outside Manila. Driver called a colleague who picked us up. His taxi broke down with a gut wrenching sound after another hour. Had to take a tricycle from God-knows-where to AC. I don't think the taxis of Manila are the best maintained vehicles in the world. Doubt if Grab is any better. Good for local rides in the city. Stick with buses.[/QUOTE]Was in Cebu coming to hotel from the airport and Taxi overheated. Guy kept apologizing and had to stop and fill up radiator about twice. Frustrating. I suppose bus would be more cost effective and reliable but door to door is attractive.
NI.
[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang;2379189]I suggest that you go to a clinic (400 P) for less than 10 USD and get a prescription for generic sildenafil and go to mercury drug to get it filled for 250 per tab. It works great. Keep the script for another fill. I usually tell them to make the prescription for 100 with a big smile and say that my wife keeps me up late.[/QUOTE]For anyone heading out of Australia, Chemist Warehouse now have a generic product 12 x 100 MG tablets for less that AUS $20, making it P60/ tab.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2369879]Think the colony / state of Georgia.[/QUOTE]That's true, I forgot Georgia, was originally a penal colony; That explains a lot.
Just checking. If I am staying close to Robinson Place I can get a Victory Liner bus from Cubao Terminal to Dau?
Any idea of cost? I heard Rabbit are unreliable.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2381385]Just checking. If I am staying close to Robinson Place I can get a Victory Liner bus from Cubao Terminal to Dau?
Any idea of cost? I heard Rabbit are unreliable.[/QUOTE]Try this [URL]https://www.victoryliner.com/[/URL] for the timetable.
Cost is going to be $3 or $4. Not going to send you broke. LOL.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2381385]Just checking. If I am staying close to Robinson Place I can get a Victory Liner bus from Cubao Terminal to Dau?[/QUOTE]I think that is the mall that Victory Liner stops at to take on more passengers. It is like 124 from Pasay. I don't know if it is the same or less from that mall.
If you're staying near Robinson's Place in Malate, your best bet to minimize traffic is to take a taxi to the Rabbit Bus Terminal near Avenida. I've never heard of Rabbit bus's being unreliable. I've never had one break down on me either.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2381385]Just checking. If I am staying close to Robinson Place I can get a Victory Liner bus from Cubao Terminal to Dau?
Any idea of cost? I heard Rabbit are unreliable.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2381888]I've never heard of Rabbit bus's being unreliable. I've never had one break down on me either.[/QUOTE]Crazy things happen in Philippines. Here's A Rabbit bus on and off the nlex.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2381982]Crazy things happen in Philippines. Here's A Rabbit bus on and off the nlex.[/QUOTE]I wonder if the mongers on that bus made their flight in time at NAIA.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2381982]Crazy things happen in Philippines. Here's A Rabbit bus on and off the nlex.[/QUOTE]Your photo reminds me of 30 years ago in a bus form Baguio to Mania. The driver drove like a bat out of hell. Going through villages, old ladies, children and one legged chickens would dive out of the way as he sent stalls and prams heave wars. He laughed like a maniac all the time. Everyone of all religious persuasions and none prayed the Rosary as we all expected to be checking out. I'd say those drivers go through enough speed to win every Olympic track and field medal going.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2382150]Your photo reminds me of 30 years ago in a bus form Baguio to Mania. The driver drove like a bat out of hell. Going through villages, old ladies, children and one legged chickens would dive out of the way as he sent stalls and prams heave wars. He laughed like a maniac all the time. Everyone of all religious persuasions and none prayed the Rosary as we all expected to be checking out. I'd say those drivers go through enough speed to win every Olympic track and field medal going.[/QUOTE]I think that guy had a few hundred kids who are all following in his foot steps.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2382015]I wonder if the mongers on that bus made their flight in time at NAIA.[/QUOTE]The mongers riding that chicken bus to hell fell off their perches most likely.
Some time ago, there were discussions on the 787 max here. Curious as how people are travelling to PI. I have been avoiding the 737 and the 787 but the latter is hard on long hauls and my FFof choice. Current 787 whistle blower is pushing me to switch FF.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2389521]Some time ago, there were discussions on the 787 max here. Curious as how people are travelling to PI. I have been avoiding the 737 and the 787 but the latter is hard on long hauls and my FFof choice. Current 787 whistle blower is pushing me to switch FF.[/QUOTE]B777 and A380.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2389521]Some time ago, there were discussions on the 787 max here. Curious as how people are travelling to PI. I have been avoiding the 737 and the 787 but the latter is hard on long hauls and my FFof choice. Current 787 whistle blower is pushing me to switch FF.[/QUOTE]You can be much safer booking via this website, guaranteed not to have a crash on takeoff, flight or landing. [URL]https://www.msccruises.com.au/en-au/Cruise-Deals/Top-Deals/Drinks-On-Us.aspx[/URL].
As for air safety you would be better to save yourself the worry of airliner safety. The additional stress would be doing more damage than your actual risk of death in an aircraft. As you know after 9-11 the US death rate increased because people decided not to fly and they started driving.
[QUOTE=Bushes;2389521]Some time ago, there were discussions on the 787 max here. Curious as how people are travelling to PI. I have been avoiding the 737 and the 787 but the latter is hard on long hauls and my FFof choice. Current 787 whistle blower is pushing me to switch FF.[/QUOTE]Philippine Airlines, Cebu Pacific and Qantas all use A330 from Australian cities to Manila. About 10 years ago, Philippine Airlines did use an A340 out of Melbourne, before those four engined beauties became uneconomical.
The captains on Cebu Pacific flights out of Australia are usually foreigners. There was one Aussie guy in the left hand seat who said before takeoff "You'll be looked after by 10 gorgeous girls on this flight. " Now if he was a Qantas captain and said that, he would have been sacked on the spot and probably would been on the front page of every newspaper in the land, branded a sexist pig. And never to be employed ever again. But in the Philippines, they appreciate beauty and don't mind being told. Hahahaha.
(He probably would have been lying as well as there's no such thing as a gorgeous Qantas hostie.)
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2389833]Philippine Airlines, Cebu Pacific and Qantas all use A330 from Australian cities to Manila. About 10 years ago, Philippine Airlines did use an A340 out of Melbourne, before those four engined beauties became uneconomical.
The captains on Cebu Pacific flights out of Australia are usually foreigners. There was one Aussie guy in the left hand seat who said before takeoff "You'll be looked after by 10 gorgeous girls on this flight. " Now if he was a Qantas captain and said that, he would have been sacked on the spot and probably would been on the front page of every newspaper in the land, branded a sexist pig. And never to be employed ever again. But in the Philippines, they appreciate beauty and don't mind being told. Hahahaha.
(He probably would have been lying as well as there's no such thing as a gorgeous Qantas hostie.)[/QUOTE]Thanks.
You are limited in Manila. Have done Qantas but can't stand the the drama queen stewards. At least with BA, they are more professional.
Cannot avoid 737 in the US. Seen many drive when flights cancelled. But cannot drive cross country or ocean.
Cruise ship takes too long.
Did 777 and 767 but hard to find and they sometimes switch. Not too many with my FF.
Kind of leaning towards switching to oneworld. My status is not high but at least don't have to start at the beginning.
Long-time Manila regular, age 40's, former high-end (choreographed) dancer in a bar, still looks good, pictured in the PG here several times. Great gal, GFE personality. On occasion over pillow talk reveals the ins / outs of the clientele. Our routine is often for one week like this: she comes on Monday afternoon and stays until Wednesday 10 am-ish, goes home to the fam and returns early Wednesday evening and stays till Friday morning 10 am-ish, goes home to the fam and returns early Friday evening, and stays until Sunday 10 am-ish. She knows I play when she is gone in the afternoons, and she has brought me other ladies in the past. I'm aware she has other clients.
One day she asked if she could depart Wednesday morning and return Friday morning. Sure, no problem. She later shared this with me: She was with another client on those two days off. I see. Since you already have client (me) for the week, why did you break to go see other client? "Um. He come each year one or two time only. He give lot of money". I see, how much? "Depend. I am with him for 2 nights or 3 nights each time". I see. How much does he give you for 2 nights? "Depend. Sometimes 15 k. Sometimes 20 k. One time he give 25 k. Like that". Wow, so generous. "Yes and no sexing. He cannot sexing anymore, few years till now no sex". Why can't he sex? "I don't know. But can't sex". I see. You stay with him the all time, Wednesday night thru Friday morning? "Neber. I go home daytime to my mother and sister and return evening". So you stay with me for 1/10 (or less) for 24 hours, and he is giving you 10 x (or more) for evenings only? "Yes". Why you don't stay 24 or 48 hours to that guy, like you do with me? "With you I want. With him not want. His mind far away, he always on his phone msg to his boss, always talking trabaho. Evenings not go out always stay in. More better to do the night and go home".
I run into this exact / similar story from my regulars (from the province to the city) on an infrequent (but regular) basis. Some nice guy sweeps into town for a few days, ignores the girl both sex and possibly otherwise (some girls tell of the guy is capable of sex, but does it once only or even not at all during a visit), drops a load of cash, and jets off. At least a dozen girls have related a similar story, and I have related such here before.
Comments welcome.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2393583]Long-time Manila regular, age 40's, former high-end (choreographed) dancer in a bar, still looks good, pictured in the PG here several times. Great gal, GFE personality. On occasion over pillow talk reveals the ins / outs of the clientele. Our routine is often for one week like this: she comes on Monday afternoon and stays until Wednesday 10 am-ish, goes home to the fam and returns early Wednesday evening and stays till Friday morning 10 am-ish, goes home to the fam and returns early Friday evening, and stays until Sunday 10 am-ish. She knows I play when she is gone in the afternoons, and she has brought me other ladies in the past. I'm aware she has other clients.
One day she asked if she could depart Wednesday morning and return Friday morning. Sure, no problem. She later shared this with me: She was with another client on those two days off. I see. Since you already have client (me) for the week, why did you break to go see other client? "Um. He come each year one or two time only. He give lot of money". I see, how much? "Depend. I am with him for 2 nights or 3 nights each time". I see. How much does he give you for 2 nights? "Depend. Sometimes 15 k. Sometimes 20 k. One time he give 25 k. Like that". Wow, so generous. "Yes and no sexing. He cannot sexing anymore, few years till now no sex". Why can't he sex? "I don't know. But can't sex". I see. You stay with him the all time, Wednesday night thru Friday morning? "Neber. I go home daytime to my mother and sister and return evening". So you stay with me for 1/10 (or less) for 24 hours, and he is giving you 10 x (or more) for evenings only? "Yes". Why you don't stay 24 or 48 hours to that guy, like you do with me? "With you I want. With him not want. His mind far away, he always on his phone msg to his boss, always talking trabaho. Evenings not go out always stay in. More better to do the night and go home".
I run into this exact / similar story from my regulars (from the province to the city) on an infrequent (but regular) basis. Some nice guy sweeps into town for a few days, ignores the girl both sex and possibly otherwise (some girls tell of the guy is capable of sex, but does it once only or even not at all during a visit), drops a load of cash, and jets off. At least a dozen girls have related a similar story, and I have related such here before.
Comments welcome.[/QUOTE]It is always good to have your sex subsidized.
Welty, you do not know if she is telling you the truth. She does not want you to feel bad that in between visits to you she has sex with other guy. If the guy does not take her out to dinner and such what do they do long hours together? Many Philippine girls wants you to feel you are the only one they are having sex with boosting your ego.
I had one such girl. I am never interested in anybody over the age of 27. This girl is 19 . We talked often in messenger. She was very good when I met her. I asked her about her sex life. She professed she is waiting for me only. When I met her it is my habit to put my finger and do the smell test. In my previous life I might have been a dog LOL! For that matter I am sure many people think I am a dog still. Her snatch smelled funny. Initially I though it maybe the hot weather. I told her to take shower and mentioned the smell. She was fresh smelling three months ago. She took a shower and cleaned herself. And I did the test again. Still inside smell was the same I acted like a doctor and asked her if there was a discharge and also pain on urinating. She confirmed and said she maybe coming down on something but still did not admit that she was having sex with other people. When I told her this is definitely sexually transmitted disease she broke down and said she has been seeing a Korean guy. I got rid of her and told her she and her Korean BF needs to see a doctor and get treated. I told her she was clean when I met her. At that time she had sex only with her high school BF. Gave her a lecture in safe sex. She is young and did not know anything.
Generally I do not trust any girl I meet. If they smell clean I do not ask about her activities. I know my method is fool proof but I get tested every year because of my mongering.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2393583]
I run into this exact / similar story from my regulars (from the province to the city) on an infrequent (but regular) basis. Some nice guy sweeps into town for a few days, ignores the girl both sex and possibly otherwise (some girls tell of the guy is capable of sex, but does it once only or even not at all during a visit), drops a load of cash, and jets off. At least a dozen girls have related a similar story, and I have related such here before.
Comments welcome.[/QUOTE]20 k pesos is half an hours work for a partner in a leading law firm in Australia / UK / US. It's also half an hours pay for a see-Suite executive in a large listed company. There are also many wealthy businessman who travel to the Philippines for work. I doubt they care about the size of the tip they give the chick. It's chicken shit money to them. They like her company and want the emotional connection. Not all mongers can get it up due to diabetes, vascular disease, prostate surgery or severe depression.
Regarding girls who twist the truth, me and fellow BM Albert both fucked the same bird recently. She told me she only gave him a massage. She told him she only gave me a massage. She doesn't know we PM. Hahaha. She doesn't want to be known as a prostitute, so saying she only does massage is more respectable. It's like us mongers all going snorkelling in the Philippines. Hahaha.
I will be making my 1st trip to the Philippines very soon and will have about a week to spend in palawan. I want to be able to see the cool sites like El nido port Barton, Coron and do some island hopping, but also want some leisure girlie chasing time as well. What are the top recommended places I should do on my 1st trip and which one would you de-prioritize for the next trip?
Your personal opinions are welcome, as I know I am leaving too many varables in this ooe ended, very general question.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Tankerjo;2393925]I will be making my 1st trip to the Philippines very soon and will have about a week to spend in palawan. I want to be able to see the cool sites like El nido port Barton, Coron [/QUOTE]There are not many options for girls in Palawan, maybe bring one with you. If you are young and have chat, you might pull tourists there.
El nido is a tourist trap, albeit a nice one, every day 20 boats with 25 customers each set off doing the same tours, so it's busy, but still worth it.
You can fly to either Coron (cebu Pacific) and a 4 hour ferry to El nido or to Puerto princesa and a 6 hour bus ride to El nido.
[QUOTE=Jingo10;2394029]There are not many options for girls in Palawan, maybe bring one with you. If you are young and have chat, you might pull tourists there.
El nido is a tourist trap, albeit a nice one, every day 20 boats with 25 customers each set off doing the same tours, so it's busy, but still worth it.
You can fly to either Coron (cebu Pacific) and a 4 hour ferry to El nido or to Puerto princesa and a 6 hour bus ride to El nido.[/QUOTE]El Nido trip. I flew on Air Swift from Cebu to El Nido in October 2019, Direct, Non stop flight. I think they are daily flights both ways. I had a girl with me so I don't know of any action there. Very quiet place, nice beach, expensive but not 5 star hotels and expensive eating. We did the Island hopping boat tour one full day, well worth it IMHO if you haven't been before. Stayed three nights. I do beleive there are some selections on the dating sites but I did not peruse. If I hadn't had someone with me I would have been bored other than the tour. But that's just me, the beach scene is not my thing. The small town of El Nido is about 5 miles away from the beach / hotels area. Free shuttle back and forth.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2394158]El Nido trip. I flew on Air Swift from Cebu to El Nido in October 2019, Direct, Non stop flight. I think they are daily flights both ways. I had a girl with me so I don't know of any action there. Very quiet place, nice beach, expensive but not 5 star hotels and expensive eating. We did the Island hopping boat tour one full day, well worth it IMHO if you haven't been before. Stayed three nights. I do beleive there are some selections on the dating sites but I did not peruse. If I hadn't had someone with me I would have been bored other than the tour. But that's just me, the beach scene is not my thing. The small town of El Nido is about 5 miles away from the beach / hotels area. Free shuttle back and forth.[/QUOTE]I'd agree byo is best or online is a fall back. Cupid is better than pinalove as it let's you search down to city level vs to the province only. You may be able to convince girls to bus in to meet.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Tankerjo;2393925]palawan. I want to be able to see the cool sites like El nido port Barton, Coron and do some island hopping, but also want some leisure girlie chasing time as well. What are the top recommended places I should do on my 1st trip and which one would you de-prioritize for the next trip? Your personal opinions are welcome, as I know I am leaving too many varables in this ooe ended, very general question..[/QUOTE]Bring your own. Unless you start out in Puerto Princessa and select one there. El Nido is a tourist trap, the kind of place where 'Italian' restaurants are owned by Isrealis employing Filipino cooks. Coron is nicer, went by Juan Air. From there, boat ride to Culion (unique place) and get away from it all, just make sure you got the right low maintenance girl for all this.
[QUOTE=Tankerjo;2393925]What are the top recommended places I should do on my 1st trip and which one would you de-prioritize for the next trip?
[/QUOTE]El Nido is the best. It is World Class. Coron is second best. Port Barton is 3rd. All worth seeing. If you had to skip one it would be Port Barton.
If you are not genetically blessed like Idris Elba or Don Draper, there are few simple things mongers can do to improve their experience with mongering.
Now I'm not preaching or anything so please don't take this in the wrong way. I'm a big, ugly, old, gruff, uneducated, uncouth, beer swilling railroad man. If I can get more pussy than I can handle, then anyone can. It's very easy to set yourself apart from 99% of the mongers put there.
1. Lose some weight. If you come from rich White Man Land, you are going to be overweight. 100% guaranteed. Losing a few pounds helps in all sorts of ways.
2. I've been using Burberry London perfume on this trip. Every. Single. Chick has commented on it. One bar wench was so memerised by this fragrance that she got her friend to come and sniff me. Hahaha.
3. I got my dating app photos professionally shot and edited. I needed some corporate photos for let's say, for my locomotive driving business. It was easy to get the photographer to then take some photos in casual settings with casual clothes. It makes a huge difference. So much so that I got rejected a few times because the chicks thought I was "too fancy". Hahaha (their words, not mine).
4. I never wear shorts after 6. 00 pm anywhere, not even in Sabang. I wear jeans or chinos and a collared shirt when I hit the bars. If you make an effort to wear good clothes, people respect you. Most mongers in the Philippines make the homeless people in my country look like millionaires. Jesus Christ, it's not that hard.
5. Act like the boss, even when you are dragging in tattooed, toothless hookers with blonde hair into your 5 star joint in Makati. Let the society madams of Manila who are quaffing their Chateau Lafite Rothschild stare. Who cares? You're getting regular sex. They are not. Hahaha.
6. I always, always give my Pinay hookers a gift from home, in addition to their fuck fee plus tip. I stock up on Cadbury dairy milk chocolate blocks at $2 each when they're on sale. Brittany Spears or David Beckham perfume is always on sale at $10 each at my local pharmacy. Hookers will not have heard of Chanel No. 5, so not point in going overboard. All of my starting quarter backs on this trip are getting nice lingerie sets, for my viewing pleasure.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2397002]If you are not genetically blessed like Idris Elba or Don Draper, there are few simple things mongers can do to improve their experience with mongering..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the regular updates on your trip. Sounds like it is a good break from all of the engine driving.
Reminds me of how you could organise my cupboard in Ph. I have the chocolate bars on the bottom shelf, then the $10 perfumes next shelf up and then the lingerie on the top shelf. I'd have just one giant panda per trip.
As they leave give each girl a present depending upon performance. Then you also give even the top shelf girls something to aim for next time.
When I first was visiting Cebu on 5 day biz trips I would take 8 stuffed toys. I was always careful to only keep one stuffed toy in view at any time.
Enjoy your travels.
PP.
A few months ago I flew a provincial regular to Manila for a few nights stint. Her only request: A new phone. A smart phone. Her older phone was one of those small units that run new about p700, and she's had it for at least 4 years. When we shopped in the mall she dragged me right into a Cherry Mobile place and picked out what I considered a lesser model, not expensive, but it has a big screen and 3 g connectivity and a so-so (at best) set of cameras. I offered that we should also shop elsewhere and look at other items for comparison, but this is the item she wanted. Easy purchase, including an SD card an a new TM sim card in the mall. A few thousand pesos. She was thrilled and seemed all set, and I got off on the cheap side of "new phone".
Fast forward to now. She's chewing on me, asking me why I purchased this new phone for her, as this new phone uses a smaller SIM (nano-sim I think, used in most all phones now) than her old phone (like she wasn't standing right next to me when we purchased it). She can't fit the old SIM (micro-sim I think) into the new phone. I asked: who cares, you wanted the newer TM sim card anyway? You get a new phone and new sim, you get a new number. Maybe you lose your old contacts from the old sim card; this is life. You are pinay and I kinda expect you to know these things as that old phone is not your first phone.
Did that do *any* good? No. "I want new phone again". Why? "I want new phone with more big SIM card slot". Oh my, sweetie, nobody makes smart phones with that larger sim size anymore, I think its old technology. "I want new. Cherry Mobile. I want transfer my old sim to new phone and back to old phone".
Great, great, great.
Y'all mfs about to be over there in the dark.
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[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2397347]Thanks for the regular updates on your trip. Sounds like it is a good break from all of the engine driving.
Reminds me of how you could organise my cupboard in Ph. I have the chocolate bars on the bottom shelf, then the $10 perfumes next shelf up and then the lingerie on the top shelf. I'd have just one giant panda per trip.
As they leave give each girl a present depending upon performance. Then you also give even the top shelf girls something to aim for next time.
When I first was visiting Cebu on 5 day biz trips I would take 8 stuffed toys. I was always careful to only keep one stuffed toy in view at any time.
Enjoy your travels.
PP.[/QUOTE]That pretty much sums it up. I haven't thought about the Panda. Next time you see an old fat monger dragging a big panda about at arrivals in NAIA, you know that's me! Hahaha.
If we can't laugh at ourselves and our own stupidity, then it's time to give the game up.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2397364]A few months ago I flew a provincial regular to Manila for a few nights stint. Her only request: A new phone. A smart phone. Her older phone was one of those small units that run new about p700, and she's had it for at least 4 years. When we shopped in the mall she dragged me right into a Cherry Mobile place and picked out what I considered a lesser model, not expensive, but it has a big screen and 3 g connectivity and a so-so (at best) set of cameras. I offered that we should also shop elsewhere and look at other items for comparison, but this is the item she wanted. Easy purchase, including an SD card an a new TM sim card in the mall. A few thousand pesos. She was thrilled and seemed all set, and I got off on the cheap side of "new phone".
Fast forward to now. She's chewing on me, asking me why I purchased this new phone for her, as this new phone uses a smaller SIM (nano-sim I think, used in most all phones now) than her old phone (like she wasn't standing right next to me when we purchased it). She can't fit the old SIM (micro-sim I think) into the new phone. I asked: who cares, you wanted the newer TM sim card anyway? You get a new phone and new sim, you get a new number. Maybe you lose your old contacts from the old sim card; this is life. You are pinay and I kinda expect you to know these things as that old phone is not your first phone.
Did that do *any* good? No. "I want new phone again". Why? "I want new phone with more big SIM card slot". Oh my, sweetie, nobody makes smart phones with that larger sim size anymore, I think its old technology. "I want new. Cherry Mobile. I want transfer my old sim to new phone and back to old phone".
Great, great, great.[/QUOTE]You can easily get the old SIM card cut down to nano size for 50 pesos at any cell phone repair place.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2397427]You can easily get the old SIM card cut down to nano size for 50 pesos at any cell phone repair place.[/QUOTE]Thank you sir. OF COURSE THERE'S A WAY.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2397427]You can easily get the old SIM card cut down to nano size for 50 pesos at any cell phone repair place.[/QUOTE]In Australia, we get "one size fits all" SIM cards; the smaller card is just punched out of the full size card. The actual chip is in the correct position for all 3 sizes.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2397347]Thanks for the regular updates on your trip. Sounds like it is a good break from all of the engine driving.
Reminds me of how you could organise my cupboard in Ph. I have the chocolate bars on the bottom shelf, then the $10 perfumes next shelf up and then the lingerie on the top shelf. I'd have just one giant panda per trip.
As they leave give each girl a present depending upon performance. Then you also give even the top shelf girls something to aim for next time.
When I first was visiting Cebu on 5 day biz trips I would take 8 stuffed toys. I was always careful to only keep one stuffed toy in view at any time.
Enjoy your travels.
PP.[/QUOTE]So you take chocolate in carry on? Lingerie. How do you know what size? Giant Panda. Buy there or book seats for 2 on the plane? Are these things really an incentive to deep throat and make available all orifices?
Surely the top shelf would be hard cold cash? Please enlighten me.
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2397443]In Australia, we get "one size fits all" SIM cards; the smaller card is just punched out of the full size card. The actual chip is in the correct position for all 3 sizes.[/QUOTE]All new Smart and Globe LTE SIM cards are the same as you described. Possibly the other companies are like this. I just don't have the knowledge of them. Maybe Australia got the technology from PH?
BTW, the girl wanted to use her old Micro size SIM card because it has all her contacts on it. The old SIM card was not 3 sizes in one.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2397446]So you take chocolate in carry on? Lingerie. How do you know what size? Giant Panda. Buy there or book seats for 2 on the plane? Are these things really an incentive to deep throat and make available all orifices?
Surely the top shelf would be hard cold cash? Please enlighten me.[/QUOTE]I believe it works for him.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2397456]
BTW, the girl wanted to use her old Micro size SIM card because it has all her contacts on it. The old SIM card was not 3 sizes in one.[/QUOTE]As said belia, the newer cards have the same sized SIM contact area just more or less plastic around it to give the various sizes.
The old cards also had physically larger contact area so even if you took to to a store for them to cut it to a smaller size, they couldn't.
Of course data can be exported or transferred old SIM to phone to new SIM. But it sounds as if these are too hard for her.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2397446]So you take chocolate in carry on? Lingerie. How do you know what size? Giant Panda. Buy there or book seats for 2 on the plane? Are these things really an incentive to deep throat and make available all orifices?
Surely the top shelf would be hard cold cash? Please enlighten me.[/QUOTE]Now I don't know about you mongers, but to me a hooker is more than just a life support system for three orifices. I treat them with dignity, respect and care. I value the fact that they put up with a lot. In this world there are two types of people. Givers and takers. I'm a giver. (Does any of that sound believable?) Hahahaha.
None of it is carry on. It's all checked. All 10 kg. The panda is a brilliant idea and I will have to buy another ticket for it.
Panty size is easy. It's small. Haha. I'm not going to buy medium or large am I? That's a fuckin unnecessary question. As for tit size, I ask them before hand. I did say that only the confirmed starters get the lingerie.
For me GFE is more important than anything and I actually appreciate that poor 19 year olds service me just to send money home to their families.
Read this and let's see if there's a dry eye on ISG.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2397456]All new Smart and Globe LTE SIM cards are the same as you described. Possibly the other companies are like this. I just don't have the knowledge of them. Maybe Australia got the technology from PH?
BTW, the girl wanted to use her old Micro size SIM card because it has all her contacts on it. The old SIM card was not 3 sizes in one.[/QUOTE]Technology keeps changing. Hard to keep up. I recall on my earliest phones, you could store contacts in the phone memory or on the SIM or both. Now its only on the phone, but with cloud back up.
Likewise with cards. They keep getting smaller. Doesn't seem all that long ago that I had to specify what size card I wanted when ordering a new SIM / number; the dealer carried both sizes. The nano size I have in my current phones came in the single multi card.
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2397722]Technology keeps changing. Hard to keep up. I recall on my earliest phones, you could store contacts in the phone memory or on the SIM or both. Now its only on the phone, but with cloud back up.[/QUOTE]Maybe it depends on your phone. My new Samsung Note gives the ootion to store numbers on the phone, sim, google account, and/or samsung account.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2397446]So you take chocolate in carry on? Lingerie. How do you know what size? Giant Panda. Buy there or book seats for 2 on the plane? Are these things really an incentive to deep throat and make available all orifices?
Surely the top shelf would be hard cold cash? Please enlighten me.[/QUOTE]As I said "biz" trip, so I had checked luggage. Just buy chocolates at woolies or coles. Just get small bars like Snickers, Picnic etc. No need for the large blocks.
For the stuffed toys just swing by the dollar shop at Market Sqr. Buy half as many as you think you need.
I have not actually taken a large Panda toy from Oz yet. I did have a beautiful Makati student almost convince me to buy her one. But that was a zero return deal as I was leaving that day and we had already checked out.
Enjoy your trip.
PP.
I'm a big fan of big fake tits so my common playgrounds are Thailand and Vietnam.
Are implants a big thing in The Philippines? If so, can you guys suggest places in Manila and Angeles where they congregate?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=SEAtraveller;2398353]I'm a big fan of big fake tits so my common playgrounds are Thailand and Vietnam.
Are implants a big thing in The Philippines? If so, can you guys suggest places in Manila and Angeles where they congregate?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]The only Ph girls with implants are the girls that have rich foreign bfs or stupid foreign bfs.
Philippines is for the lovers of the flatter chest.
Yes, there are girls with bigger boobies but they usually come with a bit more weight.
PP.
I have heard some say that you really never have to worry about thievery from hotel staff (this from some people who have done multiple trips) and then I have heard otherwise. I would like some input on how safe these safes are in your average hotel and whether or not I should use alternative methods like a pacsafe lockable theft proof carry all bag or what not?
I have received so men put on this but again it it's conflicting so any input you guys can give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Tankerjo;2398562]I have heard some say that you really never have to worry about thievery from hotel staff (this from some people who have done multiple trips) and then I have heard otherwise. I would like some input on how safe these safes are in your average hotel and whether or not I should use alternative methods like a pacsafe lockable theft proof carry all bag or what not?
I have received so men put on this but again it it's conflicting so any input you guys can give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I never ever had any problem with the safe. All my money and passport were locked in. I would take local money only enough for the day. Many a times I left the I Pad on the table charging. Nobody stole it.
You need to worry about the girls stealing. I usually put all money in the safe moment I came back to the room with the girls. Never give them an opportunity to steal. Cannot trust any of them. Couple of my regulars took few bills from my pocket when I slept. After that everything goes in the safe immaterial of who is with me.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2398603]I never ever had any problem with the safe. All my money and passport were locked in. I would take local money only enough for the day. Many a times I left the I Pad on the table charging. Nobody stole it.
You need to worry about the girls stealing. I usually put all money in the safe moment I came back to the room with the girls. Never give them an opportunity to steal. Cannot trust any of them. Couple of my regulars took few bills from my pocket when I slept. After that everything goes in the safe immaterial of who is with me.[/QUOTE]Same with me. The first thing I do when I come into my room with the hooker is to put my money and watch in the safe. I also have my suitcase locked at all times. Why tempt the room cleaners? I only carry enough money to cover drinks and the bar fine for that night. All credit cards, wallet, laptop and iPad stay in the safe. In all my years of mongering in shit hole countries, I've never had anything stolen from the safe.
One time in Cambodia, the room did not have a safe and I did not trust the receptionists with their "wooden box" at the front. I just wore a money belt and left other valuables in my locked suitcase. I was glad to get out of there.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2398544]The only Ph girls with implants are the girls that have rich foreign bfs or stupid foreign bfs.
Philippines is for the lovers of the flatter chest.
Yes, there are girls with bigger boobies but they usually come with a bit more weight.
PP.[/QUOTE]So is it correct to summarise the Philippines as:
Pro. English speaking, less mercantile hookers, GFE, BBFS.
Cons. Dummer hookers, higher risk of STIs as BBFS is so prevalent, small tits, crap food, less daytime activities.
[QUOTE=SEAtraveller;2398353]I'm a big fan of big fake tits so my common playgrounds are Thailand and Vietnam.
Are implants a big thing in The Philippines? If so, can you guys suggest places in Manila and Angeles where they congregate?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]You can find plenty of implanted big tits walking on Burgos Street in Makati. Unfortunately, they come with a penis as well.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2398652]I also have my suitcase locked at all times. Why tempt the room cleaners?[/QUOTE]Enjoy:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JvmAktLvFg[/URL]
[QUOTE=Sammon;2398603]You need to worry about the girls stealing. [/QUOTE]In Manila I left the girl in my room and went out for a smoke, returned earlier than she expected, found her standing over my suitcase with her hand holding it open. She was only mildly surprised I had caught her. I asked her if she found anything in there she liked. No reply. All of my money and important stuff was in the room safe and my pocket so only some clothes, clean and dirty. I fucked her and sent her home. I could have gone ballistic on her but hey, not really unexpected. If you are looking for honest girls don't bring home hookers.
The writers of Backwater Wines down South repeatedly tell us that the best pairing is Chicken Adobo and '57 Chateau Lafite Rothschild. I was always told that white meat doesn't go with red wine, but what would an old, uneducated railroad engineer know? I might be a closet Francophile, but erudite I am not.
Chocha Monger, following his years of sommelier training in Bourgogne, claims that rancid Pinay pussy goes best with Legende Bordeaux Blanc. Can dark meat really go with white wine? Apparently the crispness just explodes on the palate. Who to believe?
I've done my own research and there is no better pairing than Red Horse and hookers.
Picture is of me spending an afternoon with a hooker and Red Horse. She's munching on green mangoes and fish paste. Does it get any better?
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2400093] .............I've done my own research and there is no better pairing than Red Horse and hookers.[/QUOTE]Now, ya talking' , fine wine for the gents.
When the girls see the Red Horse, they know they are in for a night to remember!
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;2400824]Now, ya talking' , fine wine for the gents.
When the girls see the Red Horse, they know they are in for a night to remember![/QUOTE]Correction. When the girls see the Red Horse, a gram of shabu, and a trike driver with stout legs, they know they are in for a night they will never forget. LOL!
Hi everyone,
I had an experience recently which I'd like to share and get your opinion on. I was walking down Mango Street in Cebu when I was approached by a pimp who said he knew where to get nice ladies (the usual story, he takes me there, gets commission). I agreed and he took me to what looked like a KTV on Mango street close to the Go Go bars. Inside where some attractive ladies and I decided to go with one. I paid the agreed price (3500 PHP for short time) to the mamasan and they called a taxi. Pimp gets in with us and we are all off to the nearest short time hotel. As a precaution though I asked to see the lady's ID, and she told me that she doesn't have it on her. The pimp reassured me that it was fine but I was having none of that and I insisted that no ID means no play. After him assuring me that she was OK I eventually got them to take us back to the KTV and I explained my situation and was offered to choose another girl, but right there and then I asked about ID and some of my choices did not have it either. I did manage to get all my money back and the mamasan said I must come back the next day as she will have her ID then. I did go back the next day and was told that the lady I originally chose was no longer working there.
So my questions are, if the lady from a KTV or go go bar does not have an ID, how much of an issue is it. I mean if she was dishonest about her age and I get swindled by the cops I'm guessing that plausible deniability is not an option if I got her from a KTV. I'm assuming that it would reflect badly on the venue itself. Also, at the short time hotel, none of the ladies I went with ever had their ids checked (I made sure that they were 18 by checking the ID they gave me although obviously it could be a fake as well).
That very pimp though did warn me about the dangers of being set up by the cops when girls are younger than what they say, and insisted that he would never put me in that situation. But hey, who can you really trust right?
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2400093]
Picture is of me spending an afternoon with a hooker and Red Horse. She's munching on green mangoes and fish paste. Does it get any better?[/QUOTE]Yes.
Where is the river? The ice beer should use river ice. The mercury and giardia adds flavour. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
You refreshed my memory re opening locked suitcase simply with a ball pen.
Myself, I have all important things (cash notes, card / s, passport, air ticket) on me, not left behind in room. I don't use hotel safes, have heard stories of them being emptied and staff person responsible taking off and never seen again, LOL.
Airport staff being able to open a suitcase with a ball pen and place drugs inside is one to be concerned about, not so much curious hookers / cleaners in room (they'd get nothing much from my suitcase) methinks.
So that plastic security wrapping, around the suitcase, available at exiting western world airports for 20 dollars, and 5 dollars exiting Phils etc, is worth re-considering. Control, control.
Thanks for reminding us, fella's.
Moderator, please get this post online whilst this subject is being discussed, don't want it "buried" like so many of my other posts. Give up, if this continues to happen.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2401072]Correction. When the girls see the Red Horse, a gram of shabu, and a trike driver with stout legs, they know they are in for a night they will never forget. LOL![/QUOTE]Especially when they do not get paid for the sex, LOL.
[QUOTE=LustWanderer;2401176] ..............That very pimp though did warn me about the dangers of being set up by the cops when girls are younger than what they say, and insisted that he would never put me in that situation. But hey, who can you really trust right?[/QUOTE]That pimp is a danger too. You can place trust in the fact, they will do anything for money! Including double cross you!
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;2401202]You refreshed my memory re opening locked suitcase simply with a ball pen.
Myself, I have all important things (cash notes, card / s, passport, air ticket) on me, not left behind in room. I don't use hotel safes, have heard stories of them being emptied and staff person responsible taking off and never seen again, LOL.
Airport staff being able to open a suitcase with a ball pen and place drugs inside is one to be concerned about, not so much curious hookers / cleaners in room (they'd get nothing much from my suitcase) methinks.
So that plastic security wrapping, around the suitcase, available at exiting western world airports for 20 dollars, and 5 dollars exiting Phils etc, is worth re-considering. Control, control.
Thanks for reminding us, fella's.
Moderator, please get this post online whilst this subject is being discussed, don't want it "buried" like so many of my other posts. Give up, if this continues to happen.[/QUOTE]I've been at this for a very long time now and, though I've never had an issue with theft, I did learn quite a while ago that it's easier and safer to travel with nothing but carry-on luggage. I don't remember the last time I actually checked a bag. This avoids any possibility of someone messing with your luggage between the time it leaves your hands and the time you retrieve it. Also, I never carry more cash than I need for a day or two and credit / debit cards are always on my person. I never take any form of mass transportation in third world countries and rarely flag taxis from the street, preferring hotel cars or the use of Grab or Uber. For me, this is less paranoia than common sense.
GE.
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;2401202]You refreshed my memory re opening locked suitcase simply with a ball pen.
Moderator, please get this post online whilst this subject is being discussed, don't want it "buried" like so many of my other posts. Give up, if this continues to happen.[/QUOTE]My suitcase post was a week ago. Why did your post not show up until today?
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2401396]My suitcase post was a week ago. Why did your post not show up until today?[/QUOTE]Westie, pretty much all of the members who aren't aren't afraid to speak their mind or have had complaints lodged against them are now moderated.
Review of their new posts generally takes a day. That's why they appear out of sync or well down the list.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2401437]Westie, pretty much all of the members who aren't aren't afraid to speak their mind or have had complaints lodged against them are now moderated.
Review of their new posts generally takes a day. That's why they appear out of sync or well down the list.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Very true G.
Many are moderated as some poster with say less then 20 is too sensitive to being told to RTFF. Mainly the managers as we nickname them. Plenty mongers I know here in moderation and is very annoying that the post appears 24 hours later and thus is missed.
AI am moderated as long time back someone said I was rude to them for pointing out they had roughly 50 posts, all questions, no substance and no PM. Ces't la vie.
More important stuff to worry about than being moderated or not I suppose LOL.
Is there a Cebu City thread somewhere here that I'm not seeing? Is it buried in another thread?
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2401442]Very true G.
Many are moderated as some poster with say less then 20 is too sensitive to being told to RTFF. Mainly the managers as we nickname them. Plenty mongers I know here in moderation and is very annoying that the post appears 24 hours later and thus is missed.
AI am moderated as long time back someone said I was rude to them for pointing out they had roughly 50 posts, all questions, no substance and no PM. Ces't la vie.
More important stuff to worry about than being moderated or not I suppose LOL.[/QUOTE]I agree to some moderation otherwise the forum would become a list of mudslinging or computer generated spam. However, it should be only when warranted and be withdrawn after a suitable period. I miss many posts because they only appear well down the list and a day or two after they are written (often after the topic of discussion has moved on).
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2401841]Is there a Cebu City thread somewhere here that I'm not seeing? Is it buried in another thread?[/QUOTE]Yes, there is. It's under Asia / The Philippines (dash) Cebu. It's a stand alone thread, separate to the Asia / The Philippines.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?773-The-Philippines-Cebu[/URL]
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2401855]I agree to some moderation otherwise the forum would become a list of mudslinging or computer generated spam. However, it should be only when warranted and be withdrawn after a suitable period. I miss many posts because they only appear well down the list and a day or two after they are written (often after the topic of discussion has moved on).
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Very hard to get it withdrawn once you are moderated.
It is truly a pain to see managers post inane stuff and lots of questions but never get scolded by the admin. Yet when others say RTFF they are reminded to be nice or face sanctions.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2401856]Yes, there is. It's under Asia / The Philippines (dash) Cebu. It's a stand alone thread, separate to the Asia / The Philippines.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?773-The-Philippines-Cebu[/URL]
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that!
Seems kind of weird the way the main Philippines page is set up...there are links to Dumaguete, Davao, Olangapo, etc, but not Cebu. I see now there is a link way down in the User blog to Cebu...seems kind of poorly organized. If it were me, I would spend a little time reorganizing the main page...just sayin'
[QUOTE=OlderAndWiser;2330779]I'm afraid you are right. It's largely a matter of trust. One reason there are very few wealthy Filipinos in jail but quite a number of at least formerly wealthy foreigners is that well connected Filipinos will usually have some family friend who is a lawyer or at least knows someone that can be trusted. For foreigners it is an absolute nightmare situation. The Embassies are essentially completely useless. All they can do is provide a list of the most prestigious and expensive law firms in the country, most of whom are general practices with little or no interest in representing foreigners on sex or drug related charges. For several years the received wisdom on ISG was that Atty Solima was the guy to go to at least in Cebu. This view emanated principally from DS who was a big fan. Sadly Solima, who had an extremely "pungent" reputation, was gunned down along with his wife shortly before DS's conviction and DS ended up with around a century of sentences. The most effective Atty will depend on the nature of the trouble you get in, the evidence against you, the stage of the proceedings and the people you are dealing with and your location. In terms of location. The highest quality (and 2 x more expensive) lawyers are based in Manila. If you are arrested in Cebu it would probably make sense to get a Cebu lawyer. In smaller places, the quality of criminal lawyers will be generally be so poor that you maybe forced to fly someone in from Manila or Cebu to defend you (which can become very expensive given that hearings are scheduled in 10-20 minutes slots at intervals of 1-3 months) and are usually cancelled / postponed on at least 50% of occasions. The most "professional" attys are also those who tend to "play by the book" , the difficulty with this is that the book can take many years to "play out" as it were which is disastrous if you have been charged with a non bailable offense..[/QUOTE]Hello,
I have now 3 years a Pinay "fiancee".
Last year she cheated on me with an ugly poor pinoy (local man) and met me every time with bruised (hurt) tits.
Nothing happens. They accept everything from each other!
But when I put accidentally a partly nude pic of my pinay on facebook for 10 seconds the whole village advises to report me to the police.
Yes to get bribe money from me, so my girl can share that with all her friends.
That there are a lot of white in jail is pure cause the Philippines people all think we have they can get money to share.
Each time I come again in the Philippines I start to hate it more.
Just lazy money today, tomorrow more lazy money, run away (after a quicky) when you can.
[QUOTE=Retgilpo;2402021]Nothing happens. They accept everything from each other![/QUOTE]Boyfriends beating their girlfriends on occasion is part of the culture (unfortunately). The male machismo control thing. There's even a name for it. Not long ago one of my girls showed up at my place for her usual afternoon time, with a large knot / bruise on her forhead, running from inside the hairline (hidden under the hair) to just below (outside) the hairline, about an inch of the raised welt was showing on her forhead. Your boyfie do that sweetie? "Yes". He curious to where you were in the afternoon a few days ago (when she was with me)? "No. House not clean. He like clean". Do I have it right sweetie? You have the trabaho and bring home the rice. He has not worked in 10 months and plays video games at piso-net. He does not help clean the house? "No of course not. Clean is my job. He hit to making me clean. A guy can do that". If the girl accepts it (and she is not the only one who shows up with bruises), its just different culture. I don't like it, but there it is.
[QUOTE=Retgilpo;2402021]But when I put accidentally a partly nude pic of my pinay on facebook for 10 seconds the whole village advises to report me to the police. Yes to get bribe money from me, so my girl can share that with all her friends.[/QUOTE]You did WHAT? I think the pinoy term would be: Buang ka?
[QUOTE=Retgilpo;2402021]Each time I come again in the Philippines I start to hate it more.[/QUOTE]Yeh, that's why we love it.
And keep coming back.
LE'ts face it, we are Losers, and have got nowhere else to go! (LOL).
This really blew my mind. I dated one older Pinay who in her younger days was married to a Provincial Pinoy who on occasion would put a dog collar on her and chain her to the front yard gate post for several hours. She of course did not like it one bit and cried all the time but what could she do. It was accepted as a husbands right to do whatever. She Left him or he left her after 3 years. Some really sad stories out there. You can't make this stuff up.
[QUOTE=Retgilpo;2402021]Hello,
That there are a lot of white in jail is pure cause the Philippines people all think we have they can get money to share.
Each time I come again in the Philippines I start to hate it more.
Just lazy money today, tomorrow more lazy money, run away (after a quicky) when you can.[/QUOTE]Welcome to dream land Ret. But took you how long to figure this out? I know many pinays work hard and family / boyfriend / husband does nothing except complain they need more cash to enjoy themselves at the peso net cafes, the bars etc.
Once you see the darker and at time lazier side then it can change perceptions.
One of my cuties was working overseas, got pregnant came home and since then does nothing except ask my cutie for ash.
They can tell is cultural etc but we know better I hope.
[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2402179]This really blew my mind. I dated one older Pinay who in her younger days was married to a Provincial Pinoy who on occasion would put a dog collar on her and chain her to the front yard gate post for several hours. She of course did not like it one bit and cried all the time but what could she do. It was accepted as a husbands right to do whatever. She Left him or he left her after 3 years. Some really sad stories out there. You can't make this stuff up.[/QUOTE]Dear sir,
Your response rather surprises me.
I'm not sure why, but you seem to have a problem with a man chaining his legally married wife to a post with a dog collar around her neck. Doesn't that happen in your country? You must have lived a very sheltered, oh so Presbyterian life. It's not as if he hit her or anything or forgot to feed her three square meals a day. After all, she is considered his chattel in the Philippines and he is perfectly entitled to do what he likes with his property. In fact, the whole Barangay expects him to do his manly duty in disciplining his wayward wife in the manner he so pleases. Otherwise they will call him a weak willed homo. The Monsignor from the local church probably takes her doggie style while she is still chained to the post, asking her to repent for her evil ways. One Hail Mary for every minute of pounding. Hahaha. Your western sensibilities have no place here. Let the natives do what they have been doing before fat, white American man set foot in Shitsville in search of cheap, brown pussy. Take a leaf from the Spanish. Would they have cared?
On the other hand, you seem to be very comfortable, even proud, of the idea of tricking your way into a young provincial virgin's pussy, despite your 80-year age gap. Hahahaha. Sounds like you must be promising marriage to her or offering a community roast pig at a minimum. Bribing her illiterate father with a $3 bottle of fake agave tequila (its so cheap it doesn't even have a brand name) and impressing her fuckable mother with a $2 box of chocolates from the discount bin is probably a fair trade for your poor victim's hymen, but doesn't that mess with your western Christian morals? Imagine if a 75- year old, tattooed Pinoy trike driver with stout legs stole your daughter's virginity after sneakily sliding you a case of Miller Lite and your wife a plate of lumpiang ubod? Hahaha. Doesn't sound too good does it? I thought not. Hahahaha. I guess its probably a better deal than the Maori's got when they swapped the whole fuckin' country for six woolen blankets from those cunning Brits. Hahaha.
And what about dealing with the ethics of all those young forktrucks driving around the barangay looking for their US visas? Boys and girls, no point looking on the ground, ain't no visa to be found!! Old American man has left the pound. Hahahaha. Probably a bit like Club Foot's bastard kids. They are still wandering around barefooted in Cebu looking for grains of rice on the ground for their nightly supper. The whole board thinks those kids made it to Club Foot's ancestral mansion in upstate NY. They certainly aren't going anywhere. Not even to the Nevada walkup where Club Foot enjoyed his last meal of feline food. Hahahaha. May god bless Club Foot's soul. But I digress.
Back in the US, at that fine federal facility for fat fucks (FFFFFF) at Leavenworth, Kansas, you would be infamous amongst your erudite, learned colleagues as the wily old hymen buster from Pinay Land that nearly got away! Hahaha.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2397446]So you take chocolate in carry on? Lingerie. How do you know what size? Giant Panda. Buy there or book seats for 2 on the plane? Are these things really an incentive to deep throat and make available all orifices?
Surely the top shelf would be hard cold cash? Please enlighten me.[/QUOTE]Yeh, they look at those 'toys' and say "but it will not feed me, or pay my rent".
[QUOTE=OlderAndWiser;2330779]I'm afraid you are right. It's largely a matter of trust. One reason there are very few wealthy Filipinos in jail but quite a number of at least formerly wealthy foreigners is that well connected Filipinos will usually have some family friend who is a lawyer or at least knows someone that can be trusted. For foreigners it is an absolute nightmare situation. The Embassies are essentially completely useless. All they can do is provide a list of the most prestigious and expensive law firms in the country, most of whom are general practices with little or no interest in representing foreigners on sex or drug related charges. For several years the received wisdom on ISG was that Atty Solima was the guy to go to at least in Cebu. This view emanated principally from DS who was a big fan. Sadly Solima, who had an extremely "pungent" reputation, was gunned down along with his wife shortly before DS's conviction and DS ended up with around a century of sentences. The most effective Atty will depend on the nature of the trouble you get in, the evidence against you, the stage of the proceedings and the people you are dealing with and your location. In terms of location. The highest quality (and 2 x more expensive) lawyers are based in Manila. If you are arrested in Cebu it would probably make sense to get a Cebu lawyer. In smaller places, the quality of criminal lawyers will be generally be so poor that you maybe forced to fly someone in from Manila or Cebu to defend you (which can become very expensive given that hearings are scheduled in 10-20 minutes slots at intervals of 1-3 months) and are usually cancelled / postponed on at least 50% of occasions. The most "professional" attys are also those who tend to "play by the book" , the difficulty with this is that the book can take many years to "play out" as it were which is disastrous if you have been charged with a non bailable offense. Obviously the best solution is to not get into trouble in the first place but the second best is certainly some form of negotiated settlement which is far easier to achieve prior to the police filing charges with the City Prosecutor whilst they still have some discretion over what to charge. For such matters the type of Atty who "works closely with" the Police can be more effective than one who "plays by the book", sadly such Attys are seldom totally trustworthy, especially for a foreigner without strong connections in the country. Having the numbers of one or two credible attys is certainly a very sensible precaution in case disaster strikes. I'm afraid the rules here mean I can't post contact details.
Re Jesse Pfinney the person who described his case as "suspicious" is certainly right, though understating the situation.[/QUOTE]I'm assuming that this DS is Dragon Slayer, the self styled King of Cebu.
You write that DS got a 100 years in jail in the Philippines for various sex offenses. Another board member claims that DS died in the US and all his kids got a financial settlement and US visas.
Something doesn't add up here.
[quote=enginedriver;2402448]i'm assuming that this ds is dragon slayer, the self styled king of cebu.
You write that ds got a 100 years in jail in the philippines for various sex offenses. Another board member claims that ds died in the us and all his kids got a financial settlement and us visas.
Something doesn't add up here.[/quote]1 ds.
+ 1 ds.
= 2 ds.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2402461]1 ds.
+ 1 ds.
= 2 ds.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I got it.
[URL]https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/world/asia/australian-businessman-sentenced-in-philippines-for-child-sex-crimes-20180221-p4z11m.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;2402435]Yeh, they look at those 'toys' and say "but it will not feed me, or pay my rent".[/QUOTE]I've seen many girls collect their gifts and go straight from the airport to the returns desk where they bought them.
Pop quiz to check on intentions: who kept the receipt? John or Lynn? 😁.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2402112]Boyfriends beating their girlfriends on occasion is part of the culture (unfortunately). The male machismo control thing. There's even a name for it. Not long ago one of my girls showed up at my place for her usual afternoon time, with a large knot / bruise on her forhead, running from inside the hairline (hidden under the hair) to just below (outside) the hairline, about an inch of the raised welt was showing on her forhead. Your boyfie do that sweetie? "Yes". He curious to where you were in the afternoon a few days ago (when she was with me)? "No. House not clean. He like clean". Do I have it right sweetie? You have the trabaho and bring home the rice. He has not worked in 10 months and plays video games at piso-net. He does not help clean the house? "No of course not. Clean is my job. He hit to making me clean. A guy can do that". If the girl accepts it (and she is not the only one who shows up with bruises), its just different culture. I don't like it, but there it is.[/QUOTE]Of course, it is their culture and we foreigners must not stick our long noses where they do not belong. If the Pinays love it when their trike driver boyfriend puts his stout foot in their asses for failing to clean and cook, that is none of our business. We are there for the paid fucks only and should leave our Captain Save-A-Ho capes back in the West. The same applies if our rented Pinay girlfriend loves it when her ugly Pinoy boyfriend squeezes her tits so hard when he fucks her that he leaves bruises and makes her scream like a banshee wailing on a cold winter's night.
Those Pinays love a man who knows how to get his licks in after a few bottles of Red Horse and coconut wine. It makes them all horny and shit. Why do you think Pinays are all wet and ready to go when they arrive at your No Tell fuck motel? They are literally beaten into a fuck frenzy by blows from their stout live-in Pinoy boyfriend, as he warns them to fuck the ugly fat foreigner very good for a big tip. He knows that tip is going to place more platters of pork and rice on his table with cold bottles of Red Horse.
Does anyone actually think that Pinays are naturally docile and sexually compliant? Get real! Their men beat it into them. If they do not suck and fuck as well as he wants, they are likely to earn a few knots on the head, bruises on the tits, and slaps to the puss. Soft Western mongers are benefiting directly from the beatings that shock them.
Hey Westy please clear your mail box. It's reading as full.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2402448]I'm assuming that this DS is Dragon Slayer, the self styled King of Cebu.
You write that DS got a 100 years in jail in the Philippines for various sex offenses. Another board member claims that DS died in the US and all his kids got a financial settlement and US visas.
Something doesn't add up here.[/QUOTE]No DS is the guy's real life initials. I believe Dragon Slayer is a different person.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;2402585]Hey Westy please clear your mail box. It's reading as full.[/QUOTE]Cleared sir, and thanks.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2402536]Of course, it is their culture and we foreigners must not stick our long noses where they do not belong. If the Pinays love it when their trike driver boyfriend puts his stout foot in their asses for failing to clean and cook, that is none of our business. We are there for the paid fucks only and should leave our Captain Save-A-Ho capes back in the West. The same applies if our rented Pinay girlfriend loves it when her ugly Pinoy boyfriend squeezes her tits so hard when he fucks her that he leaves bruises and makes her scream like a banshee wailing on a cold winter's night.
Those Pinays love a man who knows how to get his licks in after a few bottles of Red Horse and coconut wine. It makes them all horny and shit. Why do you think Pinays are all wet and ready to go when they arrive at your No Tell fuck motel? They are literally beaten into a fuck frenzy by blows from their stout live-in Pinoy boyfriend, as he warns them to fuck the ugly fat foreigner very good for a big tip. He knows that tip is going to place more platters of pork and rice on his table with cold bottles of Red Horse.
Does anyone actually think that Pinays are naturally docile and sexually compliant? Get real! Their men beat it into them. If they do not suck and fuck as well as he wants, they are likely to earn a few knots on the head, bruises on the tits, and slaps to the puss. Soft Western mongers are benefiting directly from the beatings that shock them.[/QUOTE]You are one sick fuck.......but you have got a point. 😏.
[URL]https://youtu.be/bHnfbGyoa6o[/URL]
Cheers. G.
Just wondering if any Europe based ISG users have any insight to which Euro city offers best prices to fly to Manila? Brief crunching on Google Flights procured a quote of $495 from Zurich ZRH via Cathay Pacific. Wondering if that can be beat.
They just threw a Texas mongers a gift this weekend flights Houston to Athens $385 rt, want to toss in trip within a trip if sensible.
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2402819]Just wondering if any Europe based ISG users have any insight to which Euro city offers best prices to fly to Manila? Brief crunching on Google Flights procured a quote of $495 from Zurich ZRH via Cathay Pacific. Wondering if that can be beat.
They just threw a Texas mongers a gift this weekend flights Houston to Athens $385 rt, want to toss in trip within a trip if sensible.[/QUOTE]If you are suggesting flying into Athens and then going to another city to fly to MNL, be advised that it is hard (lengthy) to reach other European countries from Athens via train. I doubt you will save any money over flying "direct" from TX if you need to throw in an inter-Europe flight. But if your goal is to spend time in Greece, then it might be worth it. Good luck!
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2401841]Is there a Cebu City thread somewhere here that I'm not seeing? Is it buried in another thread?[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?773-The-Philippines-Cebu[/URL]
Landed some flash sale airfare via British Airways 72 h farelock (s) for the Texan who has a more exquisite taste in mongering than Tijuana. $390 round trip Houston to Athens.
Between the 2 farelocks 53 hours remaining to decide.
Option A.) Short 5 day trip only in Athens and maybe time for a daytrip to other Eastern Euro city.
Option P.) Longer 2 week trip to Athens. Window for trip within trip. Scoot Airlines with carryon only has flight from Athens to Manila under $470 rt. Get the best of two monger scenes.
If Option A: would only eat 3 days of PTO. But no Pinays. Could gamble within next few weeks some airline will throw out flash sale from Texas to East Asia and can do Manila different trip later in year.
If Option P: would be two weeks eating WAY more than 3 days of PTO, mainly from Scoot's limited availability eating 6 days. Really 4 is plenty but 6 is much, especially chipping away at my PTO balance. Maybe can take a break from monger and day trip to Hong Kong via $75 rt Cebu Pacific and tell my friends what tear gas tastes like.
Also appears over a 15 day span, 2. 5 days would be spent in an airplane.
Wildcard: my non-monger circle WILL scrutinize and question my noticeable lack of Facebook updates and overall radio blackout.
Last time in Athens: told my circle 3 days Prague, 3 Vienna, 3 Budapest. In reality did 2 days Prague 2 Vienna 2 Budapest 3 Athens.
Last time in Philippines: told my circle 5 days in Seoul with direct flight to Sydney. In reality 3 days in Seoul, 2 days into Clark AC (Jin Air) and out of Manila (Cebu Pacific) to Sydney.
I could dummy up a decoy Euro itinerary then fake an illness and say I spent 2 weeks in a Stuttgart hospital.
Note: second option was letter be then see which Forum system gets spelled out words be see so changed it to P.
A lot of horny mongers take their Pinay hookers to neighboring Asian countries for dirty weekends. While they fork out the cost of a return ticket, do they bother getting the hooker travel insurance? What happens if the hooker needs an urgent heart lung transplant in Singapore or gets run over by a tuk tuk in Bangkok?
Can some one who has travelled aboard with Pinay hooker elaborate?
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2403507]Landed some flash sale airfare via British Airways 72 h farelock (s) for the Texan who has a more exquisite taste in mongering than Tijuana. $390 round trip Houston to Athens..[/QUOTE]Firstly, just get off FB if it is controlling your life like you say.
I'm a bit confused about your itin. If you are in Europe just stay there and find a mongering destination there. You could easier do the rounds of some FKK in Germany. Much more fun that extra days on a low cost carrier.
When I recently had time for a side trip in Europe I used seeking arrangements to get a local girl in Italy.
If you do take LCC Scoot to Singapore, why not just monger in Singapore or head over to Bataam. Less airport connections, less wasted time.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2403725]A lot of horny mongers take their Pinay hookers to neighboring Asian countries for dirty weekends. While they fork out the cost of a return ticket, do they bother getting the hooker travel insurance? What happens if the hooker needs an urgent heart lung transplant in Singapore or gets run over by a tuk tuk in Bangkok?
Can some one who has travelled aboard with Pinay hooker elaborate?[/QUOTE]I don't use Travel Insurance anywhere, for myself or my Portable Hooker Collection. Its generally heavily commision based so the premiums are inflated to the point that the cost vs risk just don't add up. Do the math. A lot of the times I would have to have a claim every second trip just to make it worth while. If something does happen, what am I up for? $30 for another hotel or $80 for a domestic flight? I don't do stupid shit like ride around town at 3 am drunk on a motor bike so serious medivac claims are very improbable. Again, break a leg and I'm on the next flight out. I've only been involved in a couple of medical emergencies with hookers and they / mama took care of everything. I didn't need to do or pay anything.
The one exception is US visits where million dollar hospital visits are not uncommon. But I'm not flying a hooker their so it's a moot point.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2403739]I'm a bit confused about your itin. If you are in Europe just stay there and find a mongering destination there.[/QUOTE]The good thing about ISG is that it is ISG. Going somewhere? Look that place up on ISG to find out where the women are. Simple.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2403821]I don't use Travel Insurance anywhere, for myself or my Portable Hooker Collection. Its generally heavily commision based so the premiums are inflated to the point that the cost vs risk just don't add up. Do the math. A lot of the times I would have to have a claim every second trip just to make it worth while. If something does happen, what am I up for? $30 for another hotel or $80 for a domestic flight? I don't do stupid shit like ride around town at 3 am drunk on a motor bike so serious medivac claims are very improbable. Again, break a leg and I'm on the next flight out. I've only been involved in a couple of medical emergencies with hookers and they / mama took care of everything. I didn't need to do or pay anything.
The one exception is US visits where million dollar hospital visits are not uncommon. But I'm not flying a hooker their so it's a moot point.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]If taking my fav to Europe I do get as it can be expensive in some countries (same for USA). In Asia no as the hospitals are good and relatively cheap.
I also don't do stupid stuff. If you want examples then search for drunk Aussies in Bali on scooters. No insurance and huge bills.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2403725]A lot of horny mongers take their Pinay hookers to neighboring Asian countries for dirty weekends. While they fork out the cost of a return ticket, do they bother getting the hooker travel insurance? What happens if the hooker needs an urgent heart lung transplant in Singapore or gets run over by a tuk tuk in Bangkok?
Can some one who has travelled aboard with Pinay hooker elaborate?[/QUOTE]I do get them travel insurance. If you buy their policy in Ph it is dirt cheap.
From Aust when I take my sugar babe (non pinay) it costs me $108 for two weeks to cover USA. It's peace of mind.
It seems that goFundMe is fast becoming the new travel insurance for fuckwits.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2404137] If you buy their policy in Ph it is dirt cheap.[/QUOTE]Honest question: do they actually payout if there is a claim?
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2404137]It seems that goFundMe is fast becoming the new travel insurance for fuckwits.[/QUOTE]ROTFL. So true. See the latest Aussie tart in Bali that stacked her moped and tried to say she was robbed. Even after being exposed on nationwide news there is still a GoFundMe page and idiot's are donating. 🤨.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2404137]It seems that goFundMe is fast becoming the new travel insurance for fuckwits.[/QUOTE]It is for Aussies (young mainly) in Bali, had lots of those in the press recently saying someone fell off a bike or did something stupid while on drink and / or drugs and please helps raise $100 k++ for hospital and medivac.
Must be some very rich and stupid people out there who pay PHP100 k++ for non pinays in the country.
Am sure the sponsors have deep pockets and will try and give cash to 'charity' for the girls release as they do in AC LOL.
Or more.
[URL]https://philippineslifestyle.com/40-japanese-russian-vietnamese-chinese-women-rescued-from-international-prostitution-ring/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Goferring;2404173]Honest question: do they actually payout if there is a claim?[/QUOTE]This year on my trip on June / July my Travel Insurance payed me 15,000 php for dentist emergency, which was close to $400 CAD.
For me Travel Insurance is very important, you never know when you will get sick.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2404271]Must be some very rich and stupid people out there who pay PHP100 k++ for non pinays in the country.
Am sure the sponsors have deep pockets and will try and give cash to 'charity' for the girls release as they do in AC LOL.
Or more.
[URL]https://philippineslifestyle.com/40-japanese-russian-vietnamese-chinese-women-rescued-from-international-prostitution-ring/[/URL][/QUOTE]Sounds like all BS story to me. For that kind of money I can send girls to WR finishing school and have a hella exclusive time with them.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2404344]Sounds like all BS story to me. [/QUOTE]However fake news; upside is this encourages more girls to get in the game and dream of riches. Downside is it makes many FL think they are under charging.
[QUOTE=SteveNash;2404335]This year on my trip on June / July my Travel Insurance payed me 15,000 php for dentist emergency, which was close to $400 CAD.
For me Travel Insurance is very important, you never know when you will get sick.[/QUOTE]LOL one of the reasons I am visiting now is to get dental work done. To get it done in Australia would be 4 to 5 times the cost. Basically pays for my trip and accommodation and sex.
[QUOTE=GDreams;2404477]LOL one of the reasons I am visiting now is to get dental work done. To get it done in Australia would be 4 to 5 times the cost. Basically pays for my trip and accommodation and sex.[/QUOTE]Let me know how the dental work turns out, the procedures and the location you had it done. Am trying to plan something similar and would appreciate it.
How do you guys meet these regular girls? I'm interested in a rural type of girl that doesn't typically meet with men. Thanks.
[QUOTE=GatorGator;2404706]How do you guys meet these regular girls? I'm interested in a rural type of girl that doesn't typically meet with men. Thanks.[/QUOTE]The first thing is that you have to go where regular girls are and relax. They won't be in bars, walking the street at 3 am or online offering camsex. It's just the same as back home: think shopping for groceries, local transport, hanging out with friends etc. Make the most of opportunities as they present themselves. Be polite and respectful and be prepared for an introductory platonic date or two if required.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2404835]The first thing is that you have to go where regular girls are and relax. They won't be in bars, walking the street at 3 am or online offering camsex. It's just the same as back home: think shopping for groceries, local transport, hanging out with friends etc. Make the most of opportunities as they present themselves. Be polite and respectful and be prepared for an introductory platonic date or two if required.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]This perhaps is one of the best things about the PI: regular girls are available - everywhere. To give one small example, I was in Manila when my Samsung battery charger broke and would not charge my phone, so I headed to the Mall of Asia and the Samsung store where a pretty little tech relations girl handled my case. She knew exactly what to do and told me that although my Galaxy S8 was a couple of years old they might have a charger that would work with my phone. She got the item and began to apply a charge. She said that if it succeeded in charging my phone from zero to 25% everything would be ok. So we began to chat and flirt a little as we waited for my phone to charge. She was a smart young girl and very cute, but a little shy. I complimented her on her tech savviness and how nice she was to me, yada yada yada. Her girlfriend working in the next booth heard our little conversation and suggested to my girl that she go out with me. The suggestion caused my girl to blush, so I took advantage of the moment and asked her if she would like to have a coffee with me on her break. Her reaction was priceless like Sir Galahad had just asked her out and of course she said yes, so I waited around until her break and met her at a coffee shop. The rest is history. I did not nail her on our first dinner date, but on the 2nd date we got it on and I saw her one more time after that before I left town.
I don't do a lot of amateur dating in the PI because of the emotional tug involved. The girls are fantastic and the difference in shagging an amateur vrs a pro is notable, but some amateurs, the really nice ones, leave me with a little bit of a guilt residue inside. I know it's just me, but that's why I prefer Bar Girls. No emotional strings with them. You can love them and leave them and love them again. Ha Ha. But that little Samsung girl was really nice. She still occasionally lingers in my mind.
[QUOTE=GatorGator;2404706]How do you guys meet these regular girls? I'm interested in a rural type of girl that doesn't typically meet with men. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Goffer and NB give ideas but I have a few provincial type girls contacts that I can share. But sadly we can't do so over the forum as against the rules understandably.
Best PM me and we can share that, Goffer has some also but again best you PM also.
Look forwards to the PM.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2404847]Goffer and NB give ideas but I have a few provincial type girls contacts that I can share. But sadly we can't do so over the forum as against the rules understandably.
Best PM me and we can share that, Goffer has some also but again best you PM also.
Look forwards to the PM.[/QUOTE]WR: Admire your willingness to help others. Your many years of experience and contacts with Provincial girls, is legend on this Forum.
Just returned from Angeles today. Thursday night, number of bars were closed down by the authorities, including my favourite bar. Opened the next morning once Christmas gift giving this year sorted out. Believe they requested cash, no chocolates or Chrissy caps, this time.
Experienced and trusted locals on subject of Angeles night life, say there is a downturn within AC. Started about 2 years ago, according to them. Also said a Chinese invasion began in 2019 (in addition to the established Korean one). The Chinese are reportedly from Taiwan.
Flying half way around the world on a crap airline (PAL) bedding av Wg's who rarely give GFE is not VFM in my mind, and why battle the 3rd world infrastructure too.
For the $7,500 I spent on this trip I can have 25 pretty good experiences in my home town.
Flame all you want, just my opinion.
NI.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2406202]Flying half way around the world on a crap airline (PAL) bedding av Wg's who rarely give GFE is not VFM in my mind, and why battle the 3rd world infrastructure too.
For the $7,500 I spent on this trip I can have 25 pretty good experiences in my home town.
Flame all you want, just my opinion.
NI.[/QUOTE]That is why they say YMMV, different strokes for different folks, etc. If your goal is just to use your money to get a hole to stick your dick into then of course it could be spent more efficiently locally to achieve that. Hell, where I am from in the states you can fuck strippers all day everyday for $45 each, while some guys are mentioning going all the way to PI and paying way more than that for short time. But some people like to get away and seek adventure and may not have a problem finding GFE at cheaper prices than others. Some people may also find nostalgia in the 3rd world bullshit. Everybody has different reasons for taking their trips.
Sorry to be asking here but is there any info on cebu and boracay? I'm going in Feb. / Mar. And wanted to read up on some intel or advice.
TIA.
[QUOTE=Alldaybbbj;2406494]Sorry to be asking here but is there any info on cebu and boracay? I'm going in Feb. / Mar. And wanted to read up on some intel or advice.
TIA.[/QUOTE]Yes. There are separate threads that cover and have lots of information on both places.
So suggest you look harder for those links and RTFF using the search function.
Or PM for more details of contacts as can't give out contact details on the open forum.
[QUOTE=Alldaybbbj;2406494]Sorry to be asking here but is there any info on cebu and boracay? I'm going in Feb. / Mar. And wanted to read up on some intel or advice.
TIA.[/QUOTE]Yes.
1. Plenty of time to read up on it.
2. PM Wicked Roger for excellent knowledge on Cebu. Possibly great knowledge on Boracay too.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/asianboss/videos/423738315092308/UzpfSTYxODE5MTM0NDg4MzM1MzoyNjU4NDkzMDY3NTE5ODI3/[/URL]
[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2406853][URL]https://www.facebook.com/asianboss/videos/423738315092308/UzpfSTYxODE5MTM0NDg4MzM1MzoyNjU4NDkzMDY3NTE5ODI3/[/URL][/QUOTE]That has no relevance for us. That is for locals.
Where do I look for intel on ladies in Cebu?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Dazhiba;2406884]Where do I look for intel on ladies in Cebu?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]See posts 12946 and 12947.
Also you can go back to same question you posted a few years ago.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2406874]That has no relevance for us. That is for locals.[/QUOTE]False information for USA citizen. USA law governing its citizens is 18 years old in any foreign country.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2406223]That is why they say YMMV, different strokes for different folks, etc. If your goal is just to use your money to get a hole to stick your dick into then of course it could be spent more efficiently locally to achieve that. Hell, where I am from in the states you can fuck strippers all day everyday for $45 each, while some guys are mentioning going all the way to PI and paying way more than that for short time. But some people like to get away and seek adventure and may not have a problem finding GFE at cheaper prices than others. Some people may also find nostalgia in the 3rd world bullshit. Everybody has different reasons for taking their trips.[/QUOTE]Curious, where praytell is that where you're from? Where you can fuck strippers for $45?
[QUOTE=NewImage;2406202]Flying half way around the world on a crap airline (PAL) bedding av Wg's who rarely give GFE is not VFM in my mind, and why battle the 3rd world infrastructure too.
For the $7,500 I spent on this trip I can have 25 pretty good experiences in my home town.
Flame all you want, just my opinion.
NI.[/QUOTE]You should have read my blog. You did not do your homework. Most Filipinas do not know how to uk. Not all, but most. Been here several years. Estimate one out of 100 maybe has decent bedroom skills. I taught my last g / f virgin what I wanted and so she was ok, but still did not have porn start qualities I was looking for. Filipinas are vastly overated imo, and in all respects. PAL and Cebu pathetic, the only two Phil. Airlines are so uked up they would go out of biz if they were competing in the USA Terrible airlines, terrible service. However, Cebu PathetIc does seem to have good flight crews and not major air disaster that I am aware of.
Looks like I may not have to worry about going back to PI after all:
[URL]https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/12/philippines-bans-officials-mulls-visa-rules-americans-191227075026104.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=TurdyCurdyOne;2406961]Curious, where praytell is that where you're from? Where you can fuck strippers for $45?[/QUOTE]The city with the best strip clubs in the USA.
[URL]http://www.city-data.com/forum/city-vs-city/3007136-city-has-most-prominent-strip-club-5.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Dazhiba;2406884]Where do I look for intel on ladies in Cebu?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]DG gave a decent reply but here is the link to he same question you asked in 2018 yet once asked you never wrote a FR on what you found. And again you ask the same question?
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1001-General-Info&p=2215073&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2215073.
I replied to another poster on this as DG said see post 12946.
And do some homework ie RTFF and stop asking so many questions and please contribute.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2406887]False information for USA citizen. USA law governing its citizens is 18 years old in any foreign country.[/QUOTE]I realise that there are other rules. It was just a general interest item, I didn't intend to suggest that mongers here should try to make use of it.
But it is in the public domain, and there are likely to be people out there who would take it literally. One of Australia's biggest banks is currently in the spotlight here for allowing transfer of millions of dollars to PI, suspected of being used for child abuse purposes.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2406887]False information for USA citizen. USA law governing its citizens is 18 years old in any foreign country.[/QUOTE]Different states in USA has at least on the books different age of consent. For example when I lived in Kentucky it was 16. I believe there is a 3 year age difference is allowed. In other words a guy of 18 years old can date a girl who is 15.
General rule for USA citizens traveling abroad is 18 years age of consent. USA citizens can be prosecuted in USA if the citizen is charged with violations.
Different countries have their own age of consent rules for e. G Sweden it is 13, Yemen 12 etc. These are exclusively for their own citizens. Probably the courts does not want to get involved in relationship issues.
Stick to over 18 in any country.
If you had 7 or 10 days available in PL in February, where would you go? I've done some mongering in Manila beforehand and will likely be bookending the trip by flying in and out of there so that will undoubtedly happen. I've never been up to AC. Is it much better than Burgos? Also, where would you go for some (non mongering) interesting things to do? Generally looking for decent weather, relaxation, a decent internet connection and perhaps some nightlife too, albeit not necessarily gogo bars.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2406993]Looks like I may not have to worry about going back to PI after all:
[URL]https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/12/philippines-bans-officials-mulls-visa-rules-americans-191227075026104.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Expats must be shitting their pants. Farewell Brown Pussy Heaven!
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2407183]Expats must be shitting their pants. Farewell Brown Pussy Heaven![/QUOTE]I doubt very much Do Dirty will implement visa's for Americans. Not forgetting Americans are Flips favourite tourists (non sex, that is).
Flips will never say goodbye to Americans, and Americans will never say goodbye to the Flips. They need each other.
CM, get back in the trenches, they were asking after you, my recent trip. "Nothing like a Rogue Elephant" , one girl, said to me, LOL.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2407183]Expats must be shitting their pants. Farewell Brown Pussy Heaven![/QUOTE]You mean sexpats, NGO do gooders and Catholic priests from the US who only come to the Philippines specifically to prey on the girls (and boys) they're meant to save. Good riddance to those social justice hypocrites of the highest order.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2406997]The city with the best strip clubs in the USA.
[URL]http://www.city-data.com/forum/city-vs-city/3007136-city-has-most-prominent-strip-club-5.html[/URL][/QUOTE]To believe it. I have not been to Atlanta in 20 years, but I do remember they have beautiful women there stripping. But honestly, I'd have to see this with my own two eyes to believe it. Maybe your a young, handsome stud, but I cannot believe that price of $45 is available to any taker.
[QUOTE=TurdyCurdyOne;2407398]To believe it. I have not been to Atlanta in 20 years, but I do remember they have beautiful women there stripping. But honestly, I'd have to see this with my own two eyes to believe it. Maybe your a young, handsome stud, but I cannot believe that price of $45 is available to any taker.[/QUOTE]Yes, well in some circles Mr E is referred to as 'Walk on Water'.
In his writings Mr E does give the impression he 'has a way' , but yes, you are right in being circumspect.
The Internet is a wonderful thing, but there is nothing like reality to set us straight, LOL.
I won't be investing in air fares, hotels to find out if I can get it for forty five dollars. I will take reality. An Angeles Hi So girl, LOL.
Keep on entertaining us with your posts, lads.
Going to Philippines for the first time soon. Will be in Cebu. Other than Smooci and Tinder, what are the best places online to find girls? And I don't mean for relationships. I'm just not the one to spend hours scouring red light districts anymore. Guess I'm getting old. I rather sit at my hotel room browsing profiles / ads and then inviting them to my hotel.
What are your go to sites / apps / methods online?
[QUOTE=Farcondee;2409081]Going to Philippines for the first time soon. Will be in Cebu. Other than Smooci and Tinder, what are the best places online to find girls? And I don't mean for relationships. I'm just not the one to spend hours scouring red light districts anymore. Guess I'm getting old. I rather sit at my hotel room browsing profiles / ads and then inviting them to my hotel.
What are your go to sites / apps / methods online?[/QUOTE]Lots of info on your questions in this thread if you RTFF as many of us have written all about the better apps and some have differing viewpoints.
So sometime is best to try it as one person's good app is bad for another.
One point to note is you joined in 2015, asked 5 questions, another question in 2017 and now yet another question.
Sometime people respond to those whose FR history shows a contribution or two.
Alternatively you can PM me as I have a few hacks that can hep more so as I am in Cebu a lot during the year.
As you said browse profiles and choose is what many do (me included when I was first in the country) but then some of use friends of friends now also as a kore secure way of scoring. Use contacts from others basically.
Look forward to reading what you decide and how you did.
[URL]https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/01/12/1984353/naia-flights-suspended-indefinitely-due-taal-volcano-ash-cloud[/URL]
This will disrupt a few people especially if he monger told the wife he was elsewhere and slipped into the Philippines for a quiet dalliance with a cutie and was leaving today (12th).
Ash is no joking matter so I think this time they got it right.
Given recent chatter about making all USA citizen get visas in advance imagine this rule being applied. Seems the Chinese wer not asked for a return ticket like other have been (and discussed previously on the board).
[URL]https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1212120/return-tickets-now-required-for-visiting-chinese[/URL]
You never know what the President will do next but I can see everyone saying they will stay in Manila etc just to avoid lots of BS.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2412373][URL]https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/01/12/1984353/naia-flights-suspended-indefinitely-due-taal-volcano-ash-cloud[/URL]
This will disrupt a few people especially if he monger told the wife he was elsewhere and slipped into the Philippines for a quiet dalliance with a cutie and was leaving today (12th).
Ash is no joking matter so I think this time they got it right.[/QUOTE]There were a few cases where aircraft had engine shutdown at altitude due to flying into ash cloud. Alaska and Iceland if memory serves me.
I am in Negros now and was intending on driving back through Iliolo and Puerto Galleria into Batangas. Not sure now if I will make it depending on how the eruption proceeds.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2412950]There were a few cases where aircraft had engine shutdown at altitude due to flying into ash cloud. Alaska and Iceland if memory serves me.
I am in Negros now and was intending on driving back through Iliolo and Puerto Galleria into Batangas. Not sure now if I will make it depending on how the eruption proceeds.[/QUOTE]The most notable was a BA 747 en route to Australia that had 4 engines shut down over Indonesia after passing through an ash cloud.
I not that most flights out of Manila today seem to be running to schedule. If desperate Clark is not affected.
[QUOTE=GDreams;2413078]The most notable was a BA 747 en route to Australia that had 4 engines shut down over Indonesia after passing through an ash cloud.
I not that most flights out of Manila today seem to be running to schedule. If desperate Clark is not affected.[/QUOTE]For some of the nasty things ash can do to aircraft see.
[URL]https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanic_ash/ash_clouds_air_routes_effects_on_aircraft.html[/URL]
The particulate matter can pit the windows so the pilot has zero visibility as well.
[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2412506]Given recent chatter about making all USA citizen get visas in advance imagine this rule being applied. Seems the Chinese wer not asked for a return ticket like other have been (and discussed previously on the board).
[URL]https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1212120/return-tickets-now-required-for-visiting-chinese[/URL]
You never know what the President will do next but I can see everyone saying they will stay in Manila etc just to avoid lots of BS.[/QUOTE]According to that article Chinese will not be able to get SRRVs. You need to enter on tourist visa and convert here which they say will not be allowed.
I just don't see the visa rles for Americans being tightened that much. Americans are just under 20% of tourists to the Philippines annually (about 1 in 7 or so) plus a good number of Americans are also SRRV holders. The economic contribution is simply too much for the rules to make any rational sence.
Of course since a politician wiill make the rules, rationality goes away pretty quickly.
[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2413254]For some of the nasty things ash can do to aircraft see.
[URL]https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanic_ash/ash_clouds_air_routes_effects_on_aircraft.html[/URL]
The particulate matter can pit the windows so the pilot has zero visibility as well.[/QUOTE]Wasn't there just such an issue a decade ago with an aircraft flying over Indonesia, having to make an emergency landing in Jakarta? Engine intake problems, ash-pitted windows? This from either one or two volcanoes erupting somewhere on the main island, the winds were moving the ash cloud into the flight routes.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2413285]Wasn't there just such an issue a decade ago with an aircraft flying over Indonesia, having to make an emergency landing in Jakarta? Engine intake problems, ash-pitted windows? This from either one or two volcanoes erupting somewhere on the main island, the winds were moving the ash cloud into the flight routes.[/QUOTE]That's the British Airways 747 mentioned a few posts down.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2413285]Wasn't there just such an issue a decade ago with an aircraft flying over Indonesia, having to make an emergency landing in Jakarta? Engine intake problems, ash-pitted windows? This from either one or two volcanoes erupting somewhere on the main island, the winds were moving the ash cloud into the flight routes.[/QUOTE]I recall one over Alaska and another over Iceland as well.
As much as I hate the engine noise on a large aircraft, I would think that the silence would be worse, especially over the Atlantic in the vicinity of the Arctic Circle.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2413285]Wasn't there just such an issue a decade ago with an aircraft flying over Indonesia, having to make an emergency landing in Jakarta? Engine intake problems, ash-pitted windows? This from either one or two volcanoes erupting somewhere on the main island, the winds were moving the ash cloud into the flight routes.[/QUOTE]1982. [URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/captain-announcement-after-all-four-engines-failed-2013-2[/URL].
Just checking of on / off etc.
I have spent most of the past 14 years in the Philippines and picked up countless beautiful girls with ease. (Almost exclusively non-pros for the past decade or so.) I guess I am ready for a change of scenery. Where else have you gentlemen been where the picking up of regular girls is as easy as here? Please be as specific as possible.
Hi.
I am coming to Manila and then Cebu by end of this week.
Unfortunately I have a small disease which will need a doctor advice, dermatology I guess, that's really crap when I start a stay there but I will need.
Can you help me giving best places to goein Manila or better in Cebu to be able to get good diagnostics for dermatology speciality?
Thanks for your help.
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2415720]Hi.
I am coming to Manila and then Cebu by end of this week.
Unfortunately I have a small disease which will need a doctor advice, dermatology I guess, that's really crap when I start a stay there but I will need.
Can you help me giving best places to goein Manila or better in Cebu to be able to get good diagnostics for dermatology speciality?
Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]Makati Medical in Makati. Any taxi driver will know where it is. You can ask Makati Medical for referral in Cebu.
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2415720]Hi.
I am coming to Manila and then Cebu by end of this week.
Unfortunately I have a small disease which will need a doctor advice, dermatology I guess, that's really crap when I start a stay there but I will need.
Can you help me giving best places to goein Manila or better in Cebu to be able to get good diagnostics for dermatology speciality?
Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]In Cebu I only trust Chong Hua. It has those specialists.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2415730]Makati Medical in Makati. Any taxi driver will know where it is. You can ask Makati Medical for referral in Cebu.[/QUOTE]Thanks I will go there.
Hope costs will stay reasonable for doctors and medicine.
I can read some advices talking about very long waiting time. Did you experience it?
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2415808]Thanks I will go there.
Hope costs will stay reasonable for doctors and medicine.
I can read some advices talking about very long waiting time. Did you experience it?[/QUOTE]Reasonable costs? Compared to what and where?
Do you need it or not? Be glad quality care is available.
Waiting time? My past experience or anyone else's has nothing to do with the day you are there. FWIW mine was reasonable with quality care.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2415817]Reasonable costs? Compared to what and where?
Do you need it or not? Be glad quality care is available.
Waiting time? My past experience or anyone else's has nothing to do with the day you are there. FWIW mine was reasonable with quality care.[/QUOTE]Yes, I think you are right, thanks a lot for the info.
[QUOTE=Albert9989;2415821]Yes, I think you are right, thanks a lot for the info.[/QUOTE]Welcome. Go to reception / information desk, tell them your medical needs and they will direct you to the right doctor.
Arriving Wednesday morning 9 am arrival in Manila. From Athens. Yay jet lag. And yay Scoot. Leaving Sunday 7 pm from Angeles CRK onward to Hong Kong.
If you could call the shots, how many days in Manila how many in AC and is there time for a wild card third choice or nearby resort town even non monger unwind resort?
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2415943]Arriving Wednesday morning 9 am arrival in Manila. From Athens. Yay jet lag. And yay Scoot. Leaving Sunday 7 pm from Angeles CRK onward to Hong Kong.
If you could call the shots, how many days in Manila how many in AC and is there time for a wild card third choice or nearby resort town even non monger unwind resort?[/QUOTE]Personally I wouldn't spend one night in Manila. Just head to AC.
Bring your Plan B pills.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2416042]Personally I wouldn't spend one night in Manila. Just head to AC.
Bring your Plan B pills.[/QUOTE]I'm the other way: I need to tap out after 3 days in AC but can easily spend a week in Manila.
Other options don't need to be close if they have many flights per day. An hour flight can be much quicker than driving across Metro Manila.
I'm going to the Phillip. In March and have a week available. Already going to spend a few days in Cebu. And of course Manila. Is it worth going to Angeles? I RTFF and note it seems over priced and many girls don't cater to white middle aged guys, or rather prefer a different flavor guy with loads of cash. Reminds me of Pattaya. Which last time wasn't as much fun for those same reasons. Any special reason to go to Angeles, apart from convenience? Just think my time is better spent in more laid back places.
Thanks for the help.
EQ.