[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1394350]Sorry I missed you bro, great reporting kudos.[/QUOTE]We will see if we can't make it work next time Gogo.
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[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1394350]Sorry I missed you bro, great reporting kudos.[/QUOTE]We will see if we can't make it work next time Gogo.
[QUOTE=Dante2;1394627]Also at le carre can you get a BJ from one of the PSE girls for 500 and not pay the 300 for going to the backroom if you do it in the open?[/QUOTE]I don't know. I thought I read that out-in-the-open there is no extra charge if you don't go behind the curtain but I just can't validate. For the most part I don't want to look like a cheap skate by looking and questioning the bills with everybody around me at the bar. I can't even read the bill slips anyway under the dim light!
Every time I go in there I drop between 2-3k Bhat. I was just there again this afternoon. Some girls have the day off and others have replaced them. One girl is dammed cute, named Cat, with a gogo dancer body. After a full survey. 4 of the 10 girls look under 30. 4 more look between 30-40. I think two may be over 40.
Yes, you can bang the girls behind the curtain if you want. My buddy was banging cute little Cat that way as I was buttoning up from my 3some with two others.
I think after this trip I think I will be condemned to burn in that Inferno of yours for ever lasting eternity. Better than freezing to death I guess.
Is the small taxi stand on Second Road in front of the Avenue Mall (roughly at the intersection of Soi 13) there currently? I am told the Avenue Mall is under repairs.
I suggest you look at the number of posts (11) by the indivual who asked the question. Had this been two old timers having some fun, that would be one thing.
Are you so jaded by the scene that you cannot give what appears to be a relative newbie some info. We were all newbies once.
I'll take no info before I get bad info.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1393073]I suggest you guys look up irony in the dictionary. Mouse1 clearly had his tongue firmly in his cheek when he made his post.
Some supposed mongers are so scared of their own shadow, its a wonder they get out of their own front door.[/QUOTE]
A-1 report. Lots of info, including specifics, and a little subjective analysis.
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1394326]I have been reading about this bar on Soi 6 that is under farang management. Seems these guys are trying to recruit top talent and really make their bar unique. The name of the place is called the Night Wish bar. Last I read they were trying to put in a 'BJ balcony' and funny enough some kind of Glory Hole thing. So since I am here without much to do at the moment I decided to walk down and see if I could learn anything.
My new Canadian expat buddy and I scootered over to Kineree club in the afternoon. There must have been some kind of birthday party there, balloons out front and there was just about no place to sit inside. We are talking 2pm and lots of hot high class freelancers trying to make as much cash as possible. A couple girls in there looked and conducted themselves like $500 / hr vegas hookers. My buddy took the best one in there, the price is 1000B / hr in a 1 hr 300B time-limited room. When the place is busy like now, you have to get put on a waiting list to use a room. Guys asking for showers after the deed are turned away as it was just too busy. My buddies girl said she has no baby and her goal is to make a lot of money first. Anyway, after she steals your cum, she kicks you to the curb and in no time she is hanging all over some other guy for a repeat.
Pretty good barbeque beef, ribs, pork at a nominal cost. I understand the owner is a San Franciscan though a very moody person.
Later in the evening back to Cerre Blanc for more of the same. I need to correct something I posted earlier. I have had sessions with the oldest and least good looking girl there, not because I keep choosing her, but she always weasels her way in to try for a threesome. Her timing is excellent and she knows just when to do it.
Anyway, last night I am sitting on one end of the couch in the bar area. ExPat is on the other end with cute little Thai girl with bangs and great little body between us. She takes my cue and starts blowing me. When she tires and comes up for air, the older girl jumps in out of the shadows and weasels into the action. Before I can really react the older one is really going to town on me. So now I have the young one snuggled up against me, half on top me from the waist up, and we are cheek to cheek. She takes my hand and guides me down for some finger-snatch play. I obviously liked this because I wound up blowing my load into the older girls mouth after a couple minutes. This older one never seems to get tired. She laughs and giggles like she is heaven that guys are letting her sucking their cock all day and she just can't wait for the next one!
Now here is the kicker.
After my orgasm completely subsided she makes the siphoning popping sound coming off the head of my dick, funnels the cum onto her tongue, and leans forward into the younger girls face. She opens up, and shows the young one the cum, and down the hatch it goes! And then she laughs about it! I am telling you, that older biitch is nasty! LOL The younger girl did not seem too phased at this and I could tell there was some pre-cursor to that event I will never get filled on.
Revised Summary, The older one has been the swallower all the time with me starting from her 'My Vitiman' cracks in the beginning up to now.
Now it is my buddies turn. The younger one rolls to my right and starts blowing my buddy on the other end of the couch. Was nice as she popped her ass up in the air and over me to do it. She needed to come up for air a few times, and my buddy then pops. So there is the young one now, with a load of CIM. She props back up to sitting position and I motion to her to swallow. I point my finger at my chin, run it down my throat. She grins, quickly shakes a 'no' answer to me, grabs a wiping towel, and spits.
Five minutes later, my buddy and I are both yawning. We pay our bills, and get the hell out before that older one starts sucking on me again.
Since I got an inbox from somebody saying they could not find the place others are probably out there as well.
If you're looking for Carre Blanc, matchup this screenshot from my iPhone side-by-side with your own Google maps session so you can zoom in and out. As you can see the screenshot was taken while I was in my hotel on soi 10 shown by the blue dot. The red dot is Carre Blanc. Photos of the front façade are all over the internet.
Also attached is a general map for the telephone bar which is much harder to find. I showed the Moto taxi the my iPhone's GPS screen and we got there without a hitch.
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1393160]I found the Pumpstation on Soi 13. [. ]
You walk out the back of the bar and back in next door, up the stairs and into a bar room that is no longer in use. It reminds me of a private prohibition bar area. There are multiple couches, and you have to be able to put up with multiple guys getting blown around you if they are busy. I was the only one. She put on a porn on the monitor before we got started. [. ]
Service was 800 and 2 drinks were 340Bhat.[/QUOTE]Is that the one nearest to 2nd Road? Either that or Golden Girl, they're next to each other. The upstairs sounds like what I remember, but it was straight up from the bar, not next door. Anyway about a year back there was a girl I liked, and I went there often, always got charged 650 baht. Except when she managed to get me to fuck her, then it was 1000 baht. She moved on and I haven't spotted another one I liked there.
[QUOTE=Amex Spg;1392366]Also could be had at Babydolls GG (I've seen it done) , Windmill GG (I'm sure they do it, I've seen HJs given out) and probably X-Zone.[/QUOTE]I've also seen at Babydolls. X-Zone has / had a small banging room with a pole and a big tinted window looking out on the bar, I used it a couple of times with a cutie that I really liked but that was probably more than 2 years ago by now. Has anyone been using it more recently? I also used the room on the right just before the toilet, but that's turned into a storage dump. Seldom go to X-Zone any more.
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1395284]Is that the one nearest to 2nd Road? Either that or Golden Girl, they're next to each other. The upstairs sounds like what I remember, but it was straight up from the bar, not next door. Anyway about a year back there was a girl I liked, and I went there often, always got charged 650 baht. Except when she managed to get me to fuck her, then it was 1000 baht. She moved on and I haven't spotted another one I liked there.[/QUOTE]Yes it is closer to 2nd road. I just came from there and there were 3 girls working. The hot yellow blond and two plain ones. I am sure you can manage to fuck the hot blond. Most likely she will probably texting her friends while your plowing her from behind.
Thanks for the great info ehunter.
[QUOTE=Ehunter;1395313]Yes it is closer to 2nd road. I just came from there and there were 3 girls working. The hot yellow blond and two plain ones. I am sure you can manage to fuck the hot blond. Most likely she will probably texting her friends while your plowing her from behind.[/QUOTE]Have you taken the hot blond before, what is her performance like? My regular hotel is in Soi Post Office and I've pass by there often. I've never been to Pump Station or GG as I don't think I could take the wolf whistles from the massage girls across the road so I usually hit up Bliss lounge or Soi 6.
Had to leave Pattaya for about two weeks. Now back in town. Actually much to report, but for the now, will only report small bits.
Yesterday was walking around Boyz Town. Two blocks away from there to this sports bar. Never entered one of those before, so just for research purpose walked in. Had no idea what it was about, other than two gals at the entrance and two or three inside. There were about four TV screens showing sports including soccer. Urrrrrrr England football. Never of interest to me, so just ordered a cup of coffee. Gal looked OK. 30 years just started talking and charged me 40 baht for the coffee, more than reasonable. It was figure 5. PM. The place looked nice enough. Large. AC. Pool table. Soon she asked if I would buy her a drink. I gave her 40 baht instead which she was happy with and she told me the rules. Bar fines are 400 baht, and I recall she wanted 1400, but was unclear if it for ST or LT. Was not interested anyway, just curious. There were ST rooms also which I could have with her for 500 baht. I recall she wanted 1000 for the ST. I passed, since not interested in bar fines, and was not even interested in attempting a sneak out with her.
Last night had this gal who I thought really nice. Very curvy. Since I am king cheap charlie, my new favorite place to get gals is at those places which has those 40 baht 1/4 chicken (leg and thigh). Found a few of those off WS, and w / my 7/11 water, get a 1/4 chicken (or two) and that's dinner. Gals pass by, and I grab them, offering them some food perhaps. As good as approach as any. Last night ate near Secrets. Grabbed a gal. At hotel she was smoking just fine, and getting into it. Then she insisted on a condom. For a blow job? Hu? Anyway, she got upset and walked out. OK. Fine. Too bad cause she had a hell of a body. Then went out WS and quickly found another. Agreed to 700 baht, which is pretty much standard price for me, and she and I had a great time together. However, her bod not as good as the first one. Neither gal would agree for their picture taken. Too bad.
Tonight same technique. Grabbed the 40 baht chicken, this time near Soi BJ, and grabbed a gal. Very hot. Agreed to 800 baht and she came to my hotel. 22 years old. On the one hand, smokin' hot. However, looked way better with her clothes on. She was thin, and I mean like African malnourished thin. Makes me wonder what I'm getting myself in to. I took her picture, and she is actually thinner than the picture shows, especially from behind. However, super nice gal, to which I did not get her cell number and will not contact her again. Anyways, here is her pic. She just left.
Also today walked by that LeCarre place mentioned on this forum of recent, figure about 4:00. I saw no one there, and on the outside only drab curtains. Would never have known the place existed if not for this forum.
Night.
--Popper
[QUOTE=Popper1;1395685]There were ST rooms also which I could have with her for 500 baht.[/QUOTE]Those must be the most expensive short time rooms in town. I know long times rooms that don't cost that much. The highest I have heard before is 300 for Soi 6 as well as those dives on Walking Street.
I've looked for reports on this place and haven't seen any. I see the you tube video and it looks awesome. There are two honeys 1 and honeys 2. Any info on them as far prices, reports, recomendations with girls? I will be there soon and doing my homework. If you prefer to pm me be my guest.
[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1395782]I've looked for reports on this place and haven't seen any. I see the you tube video and it looks awesome. There are two honeys 1 and honeys 2. Any info on them as far prices, reports, recomendations with girls? I will be there soon and doing my homework. If you prefer to pm me be my guest.[/QUOTE]Google it. Plenty of info.
[QUOTE=Pointy Stick;1395533]Have you taken the hot blond before, what is her performance like? My regular hotel is in Soi Post Office and I've pass by there often. I've never been to Pump Station or GG as I don't think I could take the wolf whistles from the massage girls across the road so I usually hit up Bliss lounge or Soi 6.[/QUOTE]Yes, I took the hot blonde. See my post from some days ago and you'll find my write up.
Can you post up your thoughts on Bliss lounge, quality of talent, etc.
[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1395782]I've looked for reports on this place and haven't seen any. I see the you tube video and it looks awesome. There are two honeys 1 and honeys 2. Any info on them as far prices, reports, recomendations with girls? I will be there soon and doing my homework. If you prefer to pm me be my guest.[/QUOTE]My advise would be to stay with the true professional fuckers if you want a guaranteed sexual experience. The street girls on beach road are hit and miss. The soapies and strip clubs where you can negotiate while the girls are rubbing your dick can help lead to a better experience. Some girls in Pattaya will play that shy shit if you don't open them up first. As mongers we want certain things a certain way. Don't let the girl's play their games on you.
[QUOTE=Mangofan; 1153861]Looks decent enough although it's 1500 a night, not 800.
[url]http://www.thaiways.org/insidegardenresort/rooms.html[/url][/QUOTE]These are the published rates not the actual ones. I come back after almost two years, negotiated 1,000. Full Korean management. Maintenance is down quite a bit.
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1395828]Yes, I took the hot blonde. See my post from some days ago and you'll find my write up.
Can you post up your thoughts on Bliss lounge, quality of talent, etc.[/QUOTE]Try Pat form Bliss Lounge. Its a nice place, a little out of the way with no time limit. As long as the girls are not too fugly then I don't pay much attention to looks at all. I've posted before on the place and those reports are still relevant.
Its a pity that Patts hasn't got as many BJ bars as BKK but there is Soi 6 so it all balances out.
[QUOTE=Ehunter;1393978]they have a hot spinner there you should know about. She is the only one wearing black rimmed glasses, librarian look. She is completely unapproachable. Others commented the same however she is really fun to watch doing the lezzie shows. I have a feeling she is completely new to the system and is afraid to engage or open up. For example, Once I touched her knee with a little finger vibrator just to get her attention and she aggressively shoo-ed my hand away very unfriendly-like. Then 10 seconds later she coils up next to me, rests her head on my shoulder while sitting in cannon-ball position, seemingly wanting to use my body for warmth. Maybe she is looking for somebody she can get comfortable with, but on her own terms?[/QUOTE]Excellent report Ehunter, thank you.
What you have seen is nothing but a just another case of Common Working Girl Attitude Disorder, that is not only limited to Thailand, but normally found anywhere in the world. That derives from the woman truly believing that she is entitled to ANY type of behavior, any time, all the time, according to "her feelings" of the moment, rational or irrational (mostly the latter). Of course it is most often found in good looking WGs, but not only, I've seen it kept by by sweaty fat uglies, or even hardened desperate skanks, where it becomes irresistibly laughable. The normal symptoms are, e. G, your hand pushed away by disco ladies, deep ignoring in a go-go bar, stuck-up biatch conversation, etc, we all know! Remember that very rarely the attitude is given to you in particular, so never take it personally instead it is given to anyone until their funds runs low enough or alcohol is high enough, and some potential looser shows up at the right time, when their "feelings" make them inclined to take his money. Thai women give much importance to feelings, that includes eg. them preferring to squat on the floor eating smelly fish with their "friends" instead of being with a generous man. The fact that this type can suddenly sweep in attitudes, become over-friendly or most often just acting weird, should not confuse you. Leave the confusion confined to their little brains instead. There is no way they will learn that with Westerners, in 99% of the cases, it is enough to say "no". Ultimately it is about a total lack of respect toward about anybody but themselves, not a good thing in my book.
As men we must be happy about being able to see it since the beginning, as it is the clear signal for you to "take another lady". Surely, some hardheaded guy may like to take the wrong challenge, insist and may succeed in parting with his money, but that is the only sure result, and rarely worth it.
My recommendation, if suits "your feelings" (ahahah) , tell them some words to indicate that you know the bad kind they are, and how much bad karma and little luck they will get from being so. Watch their face go dark, and move on.
[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1395782]I've looked for reports on this place and haven't seen any. I see the you tube video and it looks awesome. There are two honeys 1 and honeys 2. Any info on them as far prices, reports, recomendations with girls? I will be there soon and doing my homework. If you prefer to pm me be my guest.[/QUOTE]IMHO:
- The ranking of the 5 biggest body massage places is: Sabai Dee, Sabai Room, Rasputin, Honey 1, Honey 2. Honey 1 is on Soi 11 (aka Soi Honey, really close to Soi LK Metro) but the other 4 are around Soi 6 so within easy walking distance of each other to check-out in 1 or 2 hours (and if you don't find what you want, just hit Soi Sex).
- Prices start at B 2, 000 (I think up until last year it was B 1, 800 but inflation is hitting everything). Rasputin had 4 price tiers which seemed confusing and overpriced for the ladies at B 3, 000+. The other 4 places was B 2, 000 or B 2, 400 for the better ladies (distinguished by their different colored number badges &/or which area they're seated). It used to be "fish bowl" but they're going towards a no-glass partition.
- If you're Arab or a total noob they may quote you higher. Just ask the waiter how much and if one of the price tiers isn't B 2, 000, then tell him you'll go to the next place and he'll lower it / quote you the fair price.
- Standard is 90 minutes. 1 pop (or "1 shot" as they call it) and it's CBJ. My experience was about 30 min bathing. 15 min body massage. 40 min sex (including 5 seconds CBJ action) but of course the ladies prefer to finish the customer quickly so they can get the next customer.
- They open around 12:00/13:00 and close about 01:00. Of course the daytime crew of ladies is the B team and the next shift / batch of ladies comes at 18:00 (at least that's what the Sabai Room waiter told me). They get busy around 20:00 when the tipsy / drunk japs / Koreans / whoever are in the mood for early evening cleanliness / action so selection thins about by 21:00. I would guess 18:00. 20:00 is best time to go for best selection but I had Sabai Dee at 15:00 and lady number 32 (second choice is number 42) was hot and fun even at B 2, 400, but my buddy treated me. I'm a CC so I'd say a ST / LT from the Six is a better value. Still, a body massage is worth trying at least once for the experience and novelty.
[QUOTE=Amex Spg; 1396405]- The ranking of the 5 biggest body massage places is: Sabai Dee, Sabai Room, Rasputin, Honey 1, Honey 2. Honey 1 is on Soi 11 (aka Soi Honey, really close to Soi LK Metro) but the other 4 are around Soi 6 so within easy walking distance of each other to check-out in 1 or 2 hours (and if you don't find what you want, just hit Soi Sex).
- Prices start at B 2, 000 (I think up until last year it was B 1, 800 but inflation is hitting everything)... It used to be "fish bowl" but they're going towards a no-glass partition.
- If you're Arab or a total noob they may quote you higher. Just ask the waiter how much and if one of the price tiers isn't B 2, 000, then tell him you'll go to the next place and he'll lower it / quote you the fair price.[/QUOTE]What happened is that all of them remodeled; hence, I assume, the price increase. IMHO Sabai Room used to be the worst one but now it is the best one and at 2000 baht it is still the cheapest. I took Mr Gogo and a few other wingmen a couple of weeks ago. I didn't partake, but they all did. I went up to the manager and told him that I wanted 100 baht for each of the guys I brought. He said it doesn't work like that. He said I am supposed to jack the price up and tell them the cost is 2500 baht before I bring them.
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1393151]In the DR that bike would not have lasted 3 minutes.
Here in Patts I can stand about anywhere looking at stuff on my iPhone. Doing the same in the DR and I would have to worry about a passer-byer snatching it out my hand and jumping on the back of his friends motor bike for a safe getaway.
To me. This place and BKK is loads safer than other places I have been.[/QUOTE]Spot on. One of the reasons I'm not going to Latin America anymore. And I speak fluent spanish and love the latina looks and personality. Maybe I should go back sometime, after all I've been robbed and mugged only three or four times.
Always wondered about this sentence, when you win, you get to bone the Miss, otherwise you get hit?
Anyway, just to to say everything is hit and miss. I spent the night at Walk Street pub/ disco, that over the years I got to like it a bit better than other place. Because is less dispersed. I have always seen full 9 type girls there, always in company unfortunately. This night was a perfect example of the twisted fate that awaits every monger on any given night. I spot an attractive, well dressed lady dancing nice with her girlfriend, less attractive but not a dog. Just while I'm waiting for my drink (a decent Bacardi coke at 150 Bht) another man get come close to my first 1st choice. Since I'm a gentleman, I let him do his thing, but hint hint, the lady tell me "I no take man. Sure". That proved true, they were just two well-doing ladies out for a fun night, paying their own drinks etc. As my Isaan mistress says,"Thailand where have you gone!". So, I dance and joke a little with the 2nd choice, at the very end it becomes clear that she has no lust in arrears, and no need for money, and I'm relieved when her finally goes with her thick body and stockings. The other man got dumped even before I did.
Here come the other part of night, again with some male antagonism. I drive to the night market (beach street) and take a short stroll about 25 meters). See a nice creature dressed in white with a man sitting close to her. I ask him if he wants to take her, in return I get foul verbiage. Now, since I have a bit of bad temper too, I return some of it and more. Then I ask her if she wantd to come, she say yes so I pull her up and off we go. Tomorrow I will have to to go the temple to make merit for this episode. She tells me she was happy I took her, for the sex she is reasonable and accommodating, but not great. She asked 2K LT, but she 's Ok with 700 ST, or whatever.
Then tomorrow I'm done with Pattaya, back to the big scaring city, I think I will have to play all my best (ATM) cards there.
I was in Pattaya over Chinese new year and the week after. At Beach road the quantity and quality of WGs reduced significantly. Now I see more of the very chabby type and 4-5/10 type. Where have all the nice girls gone? At MP on contrary you can still find nice girls who do everything from HJ to FS.
Want to catch up on reports; much to catch up on. This actually happened yesterday. Walking on 2nd road just south of soi 6. Gal walking other direction. Caught her, and we started into each other. What a cutie-pie. She was walking to work, which is on Beach Road. She wanted 500 baht for ST. Only reason I post this is that I know that no one reading this can afford 500 baht to give to this gal. She 32, and knew a few ST hotels. I was just too busy, and after a few words got her phone, which I soon after tossed. However, just a great fun gal. Anyway, if interested, she probably around Beach Road, or Second Road, or somewhere Pattaya, or who knows where else. See attached picture. Regret tossing her phone number.
Later that night while hunting went to a Thai bar where I often pick up my birds. Those who know my posts know my feeling on bar fines: suckers only apply. Went to the Thai bar, where I've bought lady drinks for groups of gals while there (note this this is not an LD, but a lady drink where . . . Oh never mind!) One table had action, and this one gal said that she saw me there many times before, that I had one of her friends, so why didn't I get her? We spoke and I was playing w / her. Would rate her a solid 6 and why not a mercy phuck. She was getting drunk on the whiskey and then suddenly pissed off and screamed that she'd "kick my asss" if I didn't leave, and then hit me in the stomach, pretty hard too, for a girl.
Geeeez. I've been playing this now since about 2005, and perhaps earlier, and did nothing inappropriate. That said, there are two things you never do in Thailand. 1. Get illegal drugs. You could be set up, and it will cost thousands of US dollars to get out of that mess. Never mess with the Thailand legal system, not to mention get banned from entering the country again. 2. Get into a fight with a bar girl. Even if you're a thousand percent correct, makes no difference. I saw this one imbecile farang punch a bar girl, and soon five or six Thai males destroyed the guy. This the first time a bar gal ever got really pissed off at me and I said,"bye darling", exit stage left.
My game from therein went to crap. Mood changed from having fun to disaster. Could not smile upon approach. Could not play them correctly. 100 percent all rejections. It was just not fun. Things not going my way. Getting worse. Heading home. After all, had a gal each and every night while here, time for a night off, I guess. That said, how could I let this fuggaly bar girl get to me. Reminded me of going to pickup bars back in the States and getting blown out. By now I should be able to control my state. That I could not really ate into me.
Went home and saw gal who I had few nights ago. Grabbed her."Let's go, I love you 700 baht." She: "No. 1000 baht." "Last time gave you 700. She: "But you last too long, so I want 1000." Was seriously not in a mood for this bar girl garbage. Left her standing there and 'bout to enter my hotel. Just outside was a gal. She looked in her mid-30s and like the average looking overweight massage gals."Hi. You want come with me?" She: "OK 500 baht." She was fat. Rating not higher than a five. And who cares. Big tits. Tits rule.
In hotel room she gave me a Thai massage, and damn she was strong. Had to do her doggie since did not want to look at her face. Buttt high in the air, just banged the crap out of her. Now, I have to commend Little Popper for doing such a great job of banging her, since let me tell you, she anything but pretty. However, big tits and massive, and I do mean massive assssss. Just kept banging her like tomorrow would never cum. And she took it good, as I slapped her asssss around. Her butttt big was like the size of a zip-code. Gave her a 200 be tip for being such a great sport about it, as she limped out the door.
OK, going to try to grab a movie tonight.
--Popper
Nice personal report Popper1. Yes there are times when things don't want to flow right, one should not that personally, turns of luck make you stronger.
I hear what you say about never getting into fights with Thais in Thailand. This early morning, I had a little incident with the Beach Street girl that I wrote about in my latest posting, when she wanted to be paid for sleeping. I handled it "my firm way" and it ended OK with my money safe, however I'll make sure I'll never put myself in the same situation again.
What is the name of the bar?
Thank you.
Later that night while hunting went to a Thai bar where I often pick up my birds.
[QUOTE=Popper1; 1396849]She looked in her mid-30s and like the average looking overweight massage gals."Hi. You want come with me?" She: "OK 500 baht." She was fat. Rating not higher than a five. And who cares. Big tits. Tits rule.
In hotel room she gave me a Thai massage, and damn she was strong. Had to do her doggie since did not want to look at her face. Buttt high in the air, just banged the crap out of her. Now, I have to commend Little Popper for doing such a great job of banging her, since let me tell you, she anything but pretty. However, big tits and massive, and I do mean massive assssss. Just kept banging her like tomorrow would never cum. And she took it good, as I slapped her asssss around. Her butttt big was like the size of a zip-code. Gave her a 200 be tip for being such a great sport about it, as she limped out the door.
-Popper[/QUOTE]Reminds me of a SW on bangla road in Phuket. Sweet model face but rest is size of Texas. Was tired of fucking spinners with attitudes so took her for 700 baht ST. Took her to a disco club where we danced. Most patrons myst have felt sorry for me dancing with a whale in the land of trim pussies. Anyway she was extremely GFE and confided with me that she never had a customer for 6 months. True or not she was extremely horny and wanted me to fuck her all night. I am sure fellow members know how difficult it is to fuck a whale let alone get her satisfied. After I came three times she suggested me to use my hand to make her cum. Still it took a long time. Later she thanked me.
In the morning she said she just want only 500 baht but I gave her agreed 700 baht although she stayed all night. She goes out and after about half hour comes back with nice Thai food. Anyway I had nothing better to do so she stayed whole day till my evening flight BKK to meet my gorgeous slim thai gf.
Her good points are clean pleasant smelling pussy and mouth, kissable face and eager to please. Toobad nobody told her what weight watcher program will do to her!
Just wanted to see what Phuket was like and promised myself never to go there alone again.
[QUOTE=Sarawak50;1396797]I was in Pattaya over Chinese new year and the week after. At Beach road the quantity and quality of WGs reduced significantly. Now I see more of the very chabby type and 4-5/10 type. Where have all the nice girls gone? At MP on contrary you can still find nice girls who do everything from HJ to FS.[/QUOTE]My experiences with beach road have been it sucks in the day might see a rare 6 or even a rarer 7 but when you approach they know they are the hottest out there so don't want beach road prices, and the 2 I talked to that were like that had awful attitudes so you knew it would be a rushed session.
At night though I've seen a lot more 6's and 7's that seem like more casual / fun types.
well, after 16 days things are winding down.
i ran into a bit of bad luck my last night in pattaya. i had a threesome with two of the carre blank girls. i guess you could say we worked each other over pretty good. i decided i wanted to bang the girl named 'a' and the hard working older girl came along for the ride. that 'a' girl is the one of the more erotic fuks i have had on this trip and i would say one of the more memorable in recent memory. i think it was fair to say that i went into it thinking i was gong to fuk her but it turned out to be the other way around. she fuked me. what i did not realize was, when a change of condoms was in order when going between girls, the older one should have rolled off the condom i had on. instead, she tried to slip her finger between the condom and my penis to peel it off. result was her fingernail took a small diviot of skin away from the base of my member. i never realized it until the following day. it never hurt, and i discovered it when i went down there to clean up a little growth with a razor. i really don't think i did the damage myself with the razor.
anyway, that concludes my trip of this beachside ho-mmunity. i needed to get back to bkk and decompress anyway before leaving. further activities will continue over on the bkk reports threads.
[quote=ehunter; 1397164]well, after 16 days things are winding down.
i ran into a bit of bad luck my last night in pattaya. i had a threesome with two of the carre blank girls. i guess you could say we worked each other over pretty good. i decided i wanted to bang the girl named 'a' and the hard working older girl came along for the ride. that 'a' girl is the one of the more erotic fuks i have had on this trip and i would say one of the more memorable in recent memory. i think it was fair to say that i went into it thinking i was gong to fuk her but it turned out to be the other way around. she fuked me. what i did not realize was, when a change of condoms was in order when going between girls, the older one should have rolled off the condom i had on. instead, she tried to slip her finger between the condom and my penis to peel it off. result was her fingernail took a small diviot of skin away from the base of my member. i never realized it until the following day. it never hurt, and i discovered it when i went down there to clean up a little growth with a razor. i really don't think i did the damage myself with the razor.
anyway, that concludes my trip of this beachside ho-mmunity. i needed to get back to bkk and decompress anyway before leaving. further activities will continue over on the bkk reports threads.[/quote]so much for safe sex.
[QUOTE=Sarawak50;1396797]I was in Pattaya over Chinese new year and the week after. At Beach road the quantity and quality of WGs reduced significantly. Now I see more of the very chabby type and 4-5/10 type. Where have all the nice girls gone? At MP on contrary you can still find nice girls who do everything from HJ to FS.[/QUOTE]They are just different during Chinese New year. I was there last year during it. What a cluster fuck, never again.
I think they leave because of all the tourists with families showing up. In a few weeks and I bet things will be back to normal.
Appreciate the great reports ehunter enjoy the rest of your trip.
[QUOTE=Ehunter;1397164]Further activities will continue over on the BKK reports threads.[/QUOTE]Phew. Best comment you've made (LOL).
[quote=sarawak50;1396797]at beach road the quantity and quality of wgs reduced significantly. now i see more of the very chabby type and 4-5/10 type. where have all the nice girls gone?[/quote]they've all been run off by the constant police crackdowns. i stayed in pattaya for a week recently and only got laid a few times, and very poorly even those times. not fun. girls all mentioned heavy police roundups, several times per evening / night, and lots of bribes and drug checks with resulting jail-time or heavy bribes. also some girls mentioned attempts are constantly made to enlist them in various kind of entrapment schemes and informant roles. so, be careful out there. as always the prettiest girls are the first to flee police crackdown (they fear getting an extensive rap-sheet and presumably being raped, not to mention the police generally steal their phones, etc.) , and the oldest and ugliest the last to give in (nowhere else to go, already have a rap-sheet, police less interested in them, etc).
nowadays, pty is mostly all about the big droves of russians and other group-tour types shuffling about, and a remaining expensive but low-quality sex scene under slow and steady pressure. perhaps the most evocative of the new pattaya is the crowding of the old p. s. guesthouse. there's a new obnoxious and disgusting middle eastern restaurant next to it that claims all the parking along the street gangster style, not unlike the offensive microbrewery place across the street. never any customers at this middle-east place, of course, but you can see the writing on the wall for p. s. and the few freelancers who still manage to ply their trade along the beach there.
Looked for the report you mentioned, could not find it.
Can you please direct me to it, would like to read it.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1396863]Nice personal report Popper1. Yes there are times when things don't want to flow right, one should not that personally, turns of luck make you stronger.
I hear what you say about never getting into fights with Thais in Thailand. This early morning, I had a little incident with the Beach Street girl that I wrote about in my latest posting, when she wanted to be paid for sleeping. I handled it "my firm way" and it ended OK with my money safe, however I'll make sure I'll never put myself in the same situation again.[/QUOTE]
Harold is your sole reason for coming to this board to tell others how wrong or stupid they are?
Watch out for a girl who works the beer bars with the boxing ring just before walking street. She has "anny" tattooed on her arm. I dropped some weed in the short time room upstairs, she then tried to extort me for a few thousand baht. Then she opened door and screamed for security, two thai guys turn up, needless to say, I wasnt having a bar of it, so walked over her and them, and got the hell out of dodge. My own fault for carrying drugs, but hey, I'm weak haha, this is all.
Spent a few days with a lovely girl from the "frog" bar, in the first beer bar complex as you enter walking street, across from the new ago go bar, sugar I think it was called. Lovely girl in there, calls herself M. She only cost me 2000bht for 3 days, only charged me the first night, think she was happy to just hang out with me, and just paid her bar fines, very nice girl, kinda fiesty, but I like that. Here's her pic I got off her facebook.
Does anyone have the scoop on Apcalis? I have been pushing Kamagra off on my friends for the longest and wanted to make a switch. My usual Kamagra supply line has even dried up. It took me the longest but I finally found someone with Apcalis, but the price was 700 baht / 4 servings. I didn't expect it to be that much. Authentic Cialis was 2200 baht / 4 servings. The new Thai version of Viagra, Sidegra, was 180 baht / 4 servings, although I found it at another place 2 doors down for 100. Neither place had Kamagra either. The lady said that the police have cracked down on the generic imports since Thailand has their own version now.
[QUOTE=Kiwi352;1397852]Spent a few days with a lovely girl from the "frog" bar, in the first beer bar complex as you enter walking street, across from the new ago go bar, sugar I think it was called. Lovely girl in there, calls herself M. She only cost me 2000bht for 3 days, only charged me the first night, think she was happy to just hang out with me, and just paid her bar fines, very nice girl, kinda fiesty, but I like that. Here's her pic I got off her facebook.[/QUOTE]Seems you got a nice result there. A good lady at a very good price. Incidentally the last time I was in Pattaya was mid December and I saw a very slim girl dancing in the same bar (frog) did you notice if she is still there. Never did get round to asking about BF'ing her but may do the next time I am down there.
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1397977]Does anyone have the scoop on Apcalis? I have been pushing Kamagra off on my friends for the longest and wanted to make a switch. My usual Kamagra supply line has even dried up. It took me the longest but I finally found someone with Apcalis, but the price was 700 baht / 4 servings. I didn't expect it to be that much. Authentic Cialis was 2200 baht / 4 servings. The new Thai version of Viagra, Sidegra, was 180 baht / 4 servings, although I found it at another place 2 doors down for 100. Neither place had Kamagra either. The lady said that the police have cracked down on the generic imports since Thailand has their own version now.[/QUOTE]I found this on a different forum.
Now that lbm123 has mentioned "Sidegra" (sometimes spelt,"Silegra") I feel it's time to put this thread to rest and clear up any confusion that might have been caused by a few other misspellings about the legalities of possession, usage and distribution of the various Erectile Disfunction medications available here in LOS and any possible repercussions.
FACT:
Viagra ("Sildenafil Citrate" manufactured by Phizer) ,
Cialis ("Tadalafil" manufactured by Eli Lilley) and.
Levitra ("Vardenafil hydrochloride" manufactired by Bayer Bayer)
ARE ALL LICENSED by FDA to be legally distributed / sold in LOS by Approved Hospitals, Clinics and Pharmacies. That is why you will often notice overhead signs or in windows as you wander through the streets. That is not to say.
That you won't be able to also purchase some of the non-licensed products "under the counter" as well.
FACT:
Kamagra (Generic Sildenafil Citrate manufactured in India)
Apcalis (Generic Tadalafil also manufactured in India)
ARE NOT Legal for Distribution or sale in LOS although they are widely availablein many of the establishments mentioned above. Do not be misguided iinto thinking all Indian versions are copies and don't work because they do.
They are just cheaper. You should also be aware that there are counterfeit copies available which even come in what appears to be the original boxes and tubs. You ARE safe buying an individually sealed bubble-pop pack of.
Tablets or capsules.
FICTION:
Various urban myths have sprung up over the years including a few April Fools jokes issued by some 'friends' of ours on a certain other Forum.
LAWFUL:
Thai Law will permit you to bring 30 Days worth of most medications for peronal consumption provided you have a valid letter from your GP. NB This does not include any form of Class 1 Narcotics or synthetic opioid like Methadone and Class 2 drugs including any form of marijuana for whatever reason. You can probably sneak in a month's supply+ of something like Viagra but filling up a suitcase with hundreds of boxes will not go down well with customs Officers when you claim just to be a horny Monger! Also, proof of the fact that you may be a VIP Member of barladies. Com will not work either.
THE SOLUTION:
Sidegra (the Thai Generic tablet) is becoming more and more available everywhere. IT WORKS with all the familiar effects and various side effects associated with the others. Find an ED tablet, gel or capsule that works best for your body and stick with it.
At the end of the day, they are all the SAME SAME BUT DIFFERENT! :mfr_closed1:
Be seeing you.
Hope it is of some use.
Regards.
BJ
Just in case you show up early on Soi 6 and find your favorite bar still closed: the cops are doing one of their periodic harassment efforts, telling the bars they can't open till 6 pm. The first couple days, earlier this week, most didn't. Now they're gradually reopening at the usual time in the early afternoon. The girls today were telling me that it takes a daily payment of B7500 (B15, 000 for the big ones) to open early so it's a nice little income earner for the cops. Usually these things wind down within a few days but with that kind of profit, who knows this time.
[QUOTE=Kiwi352;1397847]Watch out for a girl who works the beer bars with the boxing ring just before walking street. She has "anny" tattooed on her arm. I dropped some weed in the short time room upstairs, she then tried to extort me for a few thousand baht. Then she opened door and screamed for security, two thai guys turn up, needless to say, I wasnt having a bar of it, so walked over her and them, and got the hell out of dodge. My own fault for carrying drugs, but hey, I'm weak haha, this is all.[/QUOTE]Just curios where did you get the weed?
(no I'm not going to buy any)
(no really, I'm not)
Now, similar to most of us males here, we don't intimately know the pain and body changes that occur with childbirth but read this, she gave birth on a motorbike. [url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2013/03/14/clueless-mom-gives-birth-riding-on-motorbike/[/url]
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1398303]Now, similar to most of us males here, we don't intimately know the pain and body changes that occur with childbirth but read this, she gave birth on a motorbike.
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2013/03/14/clueless-mom-gives-birth-riding-on-motorbike/[/url][/QUOTE]Please don't hate me for posting too frequently. I read two things in this weird piece of news. First, that the baby had born already, was being carried by her criminal mother looking for a place where to dispose of it, but then, voluntarily or not, was dropped straight from the motorbike.
And second, that apparently when is about unexpected birth, Thais make an exception to their rule to not help people in distress or having suffered an accident. Compare to the Bangkok cop that helped to life to some dozen babies already.
On this topic, the other night driving on Suk. I saw how they handle accidents, police just parked a car to shield the guy on the ground from traffic, he was still half down, like trying to come back to his senses. I seemed to me that he had a spineboard put on him, although I'm not totally sure. However everybody was standing far away and he was left alone to endure his pain and misery before the ambulance arrived. I did not stopped because professional help was on his way already, but if that wasn't the case I would have and gave first help, then they can sue my sorry ass from the other side of the world.
On the whole Vit V / Vit C controversy, personally at times use Vit C. Used Vit V, and IMO it sucks. Lasts like an hour, and after done, nothing. Get a weekend out of Vit C tablet. Just take half now and half later. Picked up my Vit C generics back in AC, Phil and for CHEAP. And I mean CHEAAAPPPPP. Suspect I paid a fourth of what it goes for here in Pattaya.
YMMV.
Here in Pattaya friend of mine recommended Storect. It's this natural herbal product. Am pretty skeptical of these things, but I believe it worked and pretty well. Paid 600 for four tablets. Will try it again soon. Except for about a ten day break, have had a gal or two every day now for like two months. Getting bit worn.
Did the LeCarre few days ago. Wow.
Woke up this morning, and sick. Knew it was the AC was blowing dirty air, and I am really sensitive to that. I told them to swap out the filter, and I would pay for it. The same thing happened back the States, and the hotel pretty much laughed at me, at that was over $60 / night. My hotel at 700 baht said no problem and they paid for it themselves. Suspect it not been changed in ten years. Fixed my problem.
Last evening found one gal with a group of friends near entrance of Walking Street. She was absolutely hot. 23 years. Just visiting from who knows where. As always my approach is: "You come with me?","How much you want." Note that most gals say 1000 for ST. This really bothers me, not only because I am king cheap charlie, but only a few years ago 500 baht was the norm for ST. I always counter with "I love you 700 baht." and am willing to negotiate up to 800 baht. Those of you paying 1000 for ST are not helping.
She frigging gorgeous, but no BJ and complained throughout. Lots of gals I've had refuse to give BJs w/out a condom. New phenomenon? That's the thing. While I like normal gals, too often they are just lacking in experience necessary. Still, a great ride, and finally after she came I jokingly demanded 500 baht.
Frick, the Russian gals are stunners. Not all of them, but a lot of them are absolutely gorgeous. Are Russians always that pretty, even in their own country? Last time back in the States, gals a disaster. Friend of mine married gal, and after she gave birth her weight doubled. Tripled. What happened to my country anyway? Wasn't America a cool place at one time? Tell you, I am tempted to learn Russian and head North, cause even average Russian would rate an eight back in the States. And those who are hot, model quality easily, and lots of them are frigging sizzling. Guess the solution is more USA McDonald's, HFCS, pink slime, and GM crops.
Tonight walking 2nd road. Passed Billion, Pump sta, and Golden Gals. Man, those gals looked skanky. Not that I have anything against skanky women mind you, but they really do need better talent. Walking 2nd and found this gal who lives and works at some bar beer in Jontien. As always,"You want short or long time?" "Short time." "How much you want?" "1000 baht." "I love you 700 baht." "OK." She 23, has a kid. Thin. Real thin. Can't complain, but the best I've had in the sack thus far are a few of my regulars, and Soi 6. Here is her picture as she entered the shower.
--Popper
[QUOTE=Popper1;1398880]Woke up this morning, and sick. Knew it was the AC was blowing dirty air, and I am really sensitive to that. I told them to swap out the filter, and I would pay for it. The same thing happened back the States, and the hotel pretty much laughed at me, at that was over $60 / night. My hotel at 700 baht said no problem and they paid for it themselves. Suspect it not been changed in ten years. Fixed my problem.[/QUOTE]Filters here are very expensive. Like 500 baht versus $2 in the USA. I bought an air cleaner / ionizer for 4500 baht the other day. Works wonders.
[QUOTE=Popper1;1398880]Last evening found one gal with a group of friends near entrance of Walking Street. She was absolutely hot. 23 years. Just visiting from who knows where. As always my approach is: "You come with me?","How much you want." Note that most gals say 1000 for ST. This really bothers me, not only because I am king cheap charlie, but only a few years ago 500 baht was the norm for ST. I always counter with "I love you 700 baht." and am willing to negotiate up to 800 baht. Those of you paying 1000 for ST are not helping.[/QUOTE]You should know by now that you can't tell these guys anything.
[QUOTE=Popper1;1398880]Frick, the Russian gals are stunners. Not all of them, but a lot of them are absolutely gorgeous. Are Russians always that pretty, even in their own country? Last time back in the States, gals a disaster. Friend of mine married gal, and after she gave birth her weight doubled. Tripled.[/QUOTE]Russian, Mexican, Indian under 30: stunner. 30-35: transition. 35+: [url]Ewwwww[/url]!
Hi guys,
Just a quick thank you to Amex spg. He was kind enough to take a novice to the Pattaya scene on a tour last night and it was very enjoyable have to say. Showed me round, pointed out the various clubs, showed me a few of them and of course the contents. He has given detailed reports in the past and some of you guys knocked him. All I'm saying is he is a good guy who will help out if he can.
i just opened an email telling me [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s in lk metro closed down yesterday, saturday march 17. is there anyone in pattaya who can shed some light on this please?
regards,
bj
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1399003]Filters here are very expensive. Like 500 baht versus $2 in the USA. I bought an air cleaner / ionizer for 4500 baht the other day. Works wonders.[/QUOTE]Split type A / C filter never need replacement, are made of plastic that you can just wash under the shower. I do that everytime I can remember about. For an extra effect put some drops of aroma oil on it.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1399122]Split type A / C filter never need replacement, are made of plastic that you can just wash under the shower. I do that everytime I can remember about. For an extra effect put some drops of aroma oil on it.[/QUOTE]This is correct!
Unless your'e staying in a hotel with central aircon system usually in the high end a room for 700 baht most likely have the ones mounted on the wall near the ceiling with a remote control. These system as noted have the black plastic ones that can be removed and cleaned yourself very easy.
Take a end table or chair when the unit is off and flip open the cover and you will usually see a set of plaster filters on each side. Look at the way it is slided in before removing. Just ply it loose and slip it out and rinse them off and pad them dry. Look at the grill above the unit and if it is full of dust use a wet cloth or damp paper towel and gently wipe across the top of the unit. Do not tap or blow into the unit this might cause dust to fall into the unit drain tube when this happens once the unit is turn on the dust lodged in the tube will cause the unit to freeze up and once that happens it will start to drip water.
For those renting long term most and pay for water and electrical these units aren't cleaned often since when they are full of dust causes the units to labor and people have a habit of turning down the temp to get the room cooler this drives up your cost unit. I had a friend stay a place and he had the unit at 18 C, and the room wasn't that cool. His monthly bill was over a 1, 000 baht, I climbed up remove the screen washed them off put them back in and his bill went down by a bunch.
If you are getting sick or waking up with a sore throat. This is usually due to the location of the unit being directly blowing over the bed or right at your face. If this is the case just take you hand if you are tall or a stick and push the flap up slightly so it blows higher this usually take care of the problem.
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1399197]For those renting long term most and pay for water and electrical these units aren't cleaned often since when they are full of dust causes the units to labor and people have a habit of turning down the temp to get the room cooler this drives up your cost unit. I had a friend stay a place and he had the unit at 18 C, and the room wasn't that cool. His monthly bill was over a 1, 000 baht, I climbed up remove the screen washed them off put them back in and his bill went down by a bunch.[/QUOTE]Same thing happened to me when I got back last month. When I do Spring cleaning I take the things out and rinse them off. But I had not even been here in a couple of months so I thought they should have been fine. Chicks were coming in saying how hot it was. I thought it was me making them that way since I am such a stud. Finally I noticed that I would turn mine down to 18, but the thermostat would never go under 24. So I told the guy who manages the building. He came in while I was gone. Later he told me that he cleaned the filters and that should do it. It worked like a charm. I think my bill last month was about 1700 and I didn't even get the benefit of the air being cool until half way through the month.
[url]http://tuktukpatrol.com/t1/2012/11/02/big-thai-tits-rattle/[/url]
Kam from tuk tuk porn.
I stumbled across this. I met this girl last time in Pattaya. She is on Thailove links.
When I met her she made it clear it was p4p. Her service same as the video shows.
[quote=dr bj; 1399101]i just opened an email telling me [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s in lk metro closed down yesterday, saturday march 17. is there anyone in pattaya who can shed some light on this please?
regards,
bj[/quote]
last time in pattaya i was there about a week and for some reason they closed a few days a week.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1397984]Seems you got a nice result there. A good lady at a very good price. Incidentally the last time I was in Pattaya was mid December and I saw a very slim girl dancing in the same bar (frog) did you notice if she is still there. Never did get round to asking about BF'ing her but may do the next time I am down there.
Regards,
BJ[/QUOTE]Was she short? There was a really nice one dancing there, at the moment her hairs dyed blonde, about 5ft 4. Her names gypsy, my mate was trying to get her, but she already had been barfined.
[QUOTE=Dante2; 1398229]Just curios where did you get the weed?
(no I'm not going to buy any)
(no really, I'm not) [/QUOTE]Hahaha just along that beach Road, usually any groups of natives will help you out, be prepared to pay farng prices though, I'm a slick talker so could get them down to about 200baht, but I've seen other guys pay 1000+. Plus the weed is pretty crappy, and the girls around soi 6 can get you a gram of ice for 2000
[quote=luvpuss;1399383]last time in pattaya i was there about a week and for some reason they closed a few days a week.[/quote][url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] is sold out
Depending on the location of where your apartment is located determines what is being charged per unit to the owners. Like every owner they tack on their charges to you. Out where I am D. S. Local area I pay 5 baht a unit then I charge the tenant 10 baht. Like you I'm Mr. Clean but not clean enough to get upset over a girl putting her dirty feet on my satin sheets LOL, but if you look around you furniture there is always dust on table top etc. Even when you just clean a few days ago. I too noticed dust in my A / C although I seldom use it and when I do it is set at 27 and that is cold to me. My fan I cleaned once every 2 weeks and you should see have dirty that is?
Keep cool? LBM
[quote=mngweco;1399461][url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] is sold out[/quote]the long term lease on [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] has run out and wasn't renewed, it is rumor the owner took a higher bid from someone that is planning to open another gogo bar at the location most likely using agency girls which of course they will be charging higher prices for drinks and bf, if they will go with you and if they do you most likely will be ask to pay 4-5 baht?
another rumor is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] is looking for another location on the main strip soi baukhao?
lbm
[quote=littlebigman; 1399465]the long term lease on [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] has run out and wasn't renewed, it is rumor the owner took a higher bid from someone that is planning to open another gogo bar at the location most likely using agency girls which of course they will be charging higher prices for drinks and bf, if they will go with you and if they do you most likely will be ask to pay 4-5 baht?
another rumor is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] is looking for another location on the main strip soi baukhao?
lbm[/quote]thanks for the update.
i never really liked that [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s much.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1399378][url]http://tuktukpatrol.com/t1/2012/11/02/big-thai-tits-rattle/[/url]
Kam from tuk tuk porn.
I stumbled across this. I met this girl last time in Pattaya. She is on Thailove links.
When I met her she made it clear it was p4p. Her service same as the video shows.[/QUOTE]Hi luvpuss,
I am very interested in Kam. You say she is on thaiLL. Do you know under what name as I can't find her there.
Alternatively, any idea where in Patts she can be found.
I will be in Patts in three weeks and would love to see her.
Any info will be appreciated.
Cheers
I was offered a condo very close to Bangkok Pattaya hospital. When looking at the map it seems to be in the north, I have never seen that hospital but I think it is close to the North Pattaya road. Close to the bus station? Price was 8000 baht per month. What do you think about the location? Is it too far from the action? Is it easy to move along the north road to the beach and central Pattaya? I was planning to stay 2-4 weeks only but still any hotel would become a lot more expensive I think.
[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;1399817]I was offered a condo very close to Bangkok Pattaya hospital. When looking at the map it seems to be in the north, I have never seen that hospital but I think it is close to the North Pattaya road. Close to the bus station? Price was 8000 baht per month. What do you think about the location? Is it too far from the action? Is it easy to move along the north road to the beach and central Pattaya? I was planning to stay 2-4 weeks only but still any hotel would become a lot more expensive I think.[/QUOTE]It is not that far. You can walk, but Baht bus will come by down the street to BR and walking street for 10 B.
[QUOTE=Kiwi352;1399439]Hahaha just along that beach Road, usually any groups of natives will help you out, be prepared to pay farng prices though, I'm a slick talker so could get them down to about 200baht, but I've seen other guys pay 1000+. Plus the weed is pretty crappy, and the girls around soi 6 can get you a gram of ice for 2000[/QUOTE]Not sure if you have huge balls or are insane or both but wow man, beach road is the most dangerous area in the city for scams and you bought from those guys?
Worth basically risking your life for some ditch weed?
[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;1399817]I was offered a condo very close to Bangkok Pattaya hospital. When looking at the map it seems to be in the north, I have never seen that hospital but I think it is close to the North Pattaya road. Close to the bus station? Price was 8000 baht per month. What do you think about the location? Is it too far from the action? Is it easy to move along the north road to the beach and central Pattaya? I was planning to stay 2-4 weeks only but still any hotel would become a lot more expensive I think.[/QUOTE]Unless you need to be close to the hospital and like local action near the Esso gas station what I consider to be the Thai Soi 6, Non Thais need not venture unless someone takes you and even then not worth the time or money. This Condo most likely is the Lumpini Park development?
Couldn't be a worse location unless you like to do lots of walking and transfering from one baht bus to another. And if you take the motorbike taxi to the the areas you noted would outweigh the savings? And if you have to be that far away because of your budget you might want to reconsider? This location most likely will ruin your whole trip?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1399906]Unless you need to be close to the hospital and like local action near the Esso gas station what I consider to be the Thai Soi 6, Non Thais need not venture unless someone takes you and even then not worth the time or money. This Condo most likely is the Lumpini Park development?
Couldn't be a worse location unless you like to do lots of walking and transfering from one baht bus to another. And if you take the motorbike taxi to the the areas you noted would outweigh the savings? And if you have to be that far away because of your budget you might want to reconsider? This location most likely will ruin your whole trip?
LBM[/QUOTE]My bad on this?
Sorry, I was thinking Pattaya Memorial. Bangkok Pattaya is different and you are right. Not a good loc.
Hi,
I have only posted on here a handful of times so please bear with me. Been coming to Thailand for the past 5 years and usually stick to massage places and go-go's. On the BKK thread there is loads of chatter about Doc bjs. Never tried a BJ place but I need to see what all the fuss is about. The reason I m posting this here is that I will be going to Pattaya for a few days to visit a mate and would like to know where the BJ bars in Pattaya are in case I enjoy my experience in Bangkok. I read Lolitta closed down on here and some other guy sent a post about carre blank. Could anyone advise of other "decent" places for a blowjob in Pattaya. Appreciation for any replies.
H
I was bar / agogo hopping with Amex last night and I was getting to know the mamasan in one of the more well known ones. In the midst of raunchy shit happening all around me I decided to ask her how much they have to give the police every month. She said that she did not know because the manager was responsible for counting it out. Her job is to take it outside when they come. She said that they come 6 times / month.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1399906]Unless you need to be close to the hospital and like local action near the Esso gas station what I consider to be the Thai Soi 6, Non Thais need not venture unless someone takes you and even then not worth the time or money. This Condo most likely is the Lumpini Park development?
Couldn't be a worse location unless you like to do lots of walking and transfering from one baht bus to another. And if you take the motorbike taxi to the the areas you noted would outweigh the savings? And if you have to be that far away because of your budget you might want to reconsider? This location most likely will ruin your whole trip?
LBM[/QUOTE]OK, thanks for the info, the condo might not be worth it for living just 2-3 weeks. Just looking at the map it did not seem so far away but in reality it would be a couple of kilometers I think. Changing baht buses is a lot of trouble. Just had a feeling that always staying close to central Pattaya might get boring and a change could be needed.
Of course the local soi 6 might be interesting.
[QUOTE=Pekkakoo; 1400095]OK, thanks for the info, the condo might not be worth it for living just 2-3 weeks. Just looking at the map it did not seem so far away but in reality it would be a couple of kilometers I think. Changing baht buses is a lot of trouble. Just had a feeling that always staying close to central Pattaya might get boring and a change could be needed.
Of course the local soi 6 might be interesting.[/QUOTE]The location is more than a couple of Kilometers and would be more suitable with someone with a motorbike. The Thai Soi 6, isn't a location for non Thais although I have seen a few white guys there. The place opens around 6pm and is run by the Mafia, there is seldom any customers except on Fri-Sat when the boys are out in droves in the area. The service for non-thais and the price make it more worth while to just go to the Soi 6 in town. A few years back I venture but stop because it was more miss than hit. Even for myself I didn't feel comfortable being the only one drinking felt I couldn't leave my drink because I might wait up hours later with my pants and wallet gone?
On the otherside of Soi 6, where the Bangkok Bank is located go down that road there are a bunch of service apartment that you might be able to get something at your price range.
LBM
[QUOTE=Himeros; 1399989]Hi,
I have only posted on here a handful of times so please bear with me. Been coming to Thailand for the past 5 years and usually stick to massage places and go-go's. On the BKK thread there is loads of chatter about Doc bjs. Never tried a BJ place but I need to see what all the fuss is about. The reason I m posting this here is that I will be going to Pattaya for a few days to visit a mate and would like to know where the BJ bars in Pattaya are in case I enjoy my experience in Bangkok. I read Lolitta closed down on here and some other guy sent a post about carre blank. Could anyone advise of other "decent" places for a blowjob in Pattaya. Appreciation for any replies.
H[/QUOTE]Please check on Bliss Lounge 3d Road. 700 Bht for BJ CIM. I recommend Ann who can deep throat. Best BJ in Pattaya!
Could you be a little more specific on the location, e. G, any landmarks nearby.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Mngweco;1400215]Please check on Bliss Lounge 3d Road. 700 Bht for BJ CIM. I recommend Ann who can deep throat. Best BJ in Pattaya![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HenryV; 1400298]Could you be a little more specific on the location, e. G, any landmarks nearby.
Thank you.[/QUOTE][url]Http://theblisslounge.com/?page_id=22[/url]
[quote=henryv; 1400298]could you be a little more specific on the location, e. g, any landmarks nearby.
thank you.[/quote]if you know the area where [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] was? go to the corner of soi diana and soi buakhao, turn left and walk down to the corner where oasis go go is located on the corner? at the corner of the soi heading up to 3 road. the soi splits like a wishbone. take the soi on the left and walk up to 3rd road, there is a big empty lot on the right at the corner if you look across 3rd road you should see bliss?
good luck, lbm
[QUOTE=HenryV; 1400298]Could you be a little more specific on the location, e. G, any landmarks nearby.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]You heard of google? Plenty of maps on location.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1400353]You heard of google? Plenty of maps on location.[/QUOTE]I was watching for the answer to Henry's question because I tried to find Bliss Lounge last time in Patts. I struck out. I just tried your helpful tip and struck out again. I got 4 results on google maps but none of them were for Bliss Lounge. Perhaps it's just my search technique, can you show us the way?
Cheers for the heads up about Bliss and the directions. I heard about a place called the pump station, anyone got any info about this place or any others in Patts?
H
map.
http://www.pattayainfos.com/bar/bliss-lounge/attachment/bliss-lounge-plan/
http://www.poon-world.com/venueview.phtml?city=pattaya&vurl=bliss_lounge
[url]http://www.pattayainfos.com/bar/bliss-lounge/[/url]
directions.
- walk east on soi chayaipoon (or soi lengkee) (on google map at the above link soi chayaipoon = "chaloem phrakat 25" and lengkee = "10 na kleua 10")
- at third road, make a left and walk about 400 meters.
- on the east side (ie right side as you're walking) of third road there is a 7-11 and next to it is bliss. several ladies should be sitting outside on benches in front of bliss, unless they're really busy.
if you don't know soi chayaipoon / lengkee.
- once you're at soi lk metro / soi diana go to the club / oasis gg on soi buakhao.
- as you're facing that gg, the street on the left side is soi chayaipoon (canterbury tales bookstore / guesthouse is located on it) and the soi on the right side is soi lengkee (china garden hotel is located on it).
when i went there in jan 2013 it was
- open from 12 noon. midnight.
- b 700 for the bj; if you want her to get naked / topless discuss it during negotiations.
- time limit of 40 min.
- i had the skinny won (cute, but complained about her neck hurting around the 20 min mark) and the chubby won, not at the same time.
- my buddy had noot and he said she was great (and i think he said she swallowed).
- good place to go for aircon in the afternoon, pool table, lounging.
- i'll go to bliss this month as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] isn't an option anymore but soi 6 is a better value (3 out of 4 ladies i had at red point bar didn't have a problem with cim and of course there was bbbj, fs and an in-room shower for pre / post servicing).
aside from bliss the other bj places
- pump station on soi post office (soi 13/3 or 13/2 in between second road & br)
- welkom inn (i think it's soi 1 in between second road / br)
- of course there's also le carre blanc and the telephone bar (which are in the vicinity of bliss & lk metro).
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1400378]I was watching for the answer to Henry's question because I tried to find Bliss Lounge last time in Patts. I struck out. I just tried your helpful tip and struck out again. I got 4 results on google maps but none of them were for Bliss Lounge. Perhaps it's just my search technique, can you show us the way?[/QUOTE]Google took me about a minute.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1400378]I was watching for the answer to Henry's question because I tried to find Bliss Lounge last time in Patts. I struck out. I just tried your helpful tip and struck out again. I got 4 results on google maps but none of them were for Bliss Lounge. Perhaps it's just my search technique, can you show us the way?[/QUOTE]One more thing. Once you get to the 3d Road be careful when crossing the street. Muy pelegroso!
[QUOTE=Ehunter;1400405]Google took me about a minute.[/QUOTE]I see. Well google maps did not pan out.
Thanks everyone.
C4T
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai; 1400441]I see. Well google maps did not pan out.
Thanks everyone.
C4T[/QUOTE]There is a lot of flack from people here about doing google searches for common things. Much of this activity would get reduced if there were a FAQ attached to the popular forms, a library or repository is needed that has yet to put together.
Those complaining about others needing to do their google searches are part of the problem for not helping to resolve the problem.
Welcome to the ISG!
[QUOTE=PattsBoy17; 1400322]Attention Luvpuss,
See my post a few posts down where I asked you if you had any additional info on a girl you had commented on.
Now it's possible you missed it. I doubt it since you commented on a post just above it.
Now I'm new here. Though not new to mongering or LOS. So I ask myself. What's the problem?
This is a mongers forum. If you don't want to help your choice. You don't have to be arsehole about it by ignoring a request.
Jeez. Get a fucking life![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Himeros; 1400382]Cheers for the heads up about Bliss and the directions. I heard about a place called the pump station, anyone got any info about this place or any others in Patts?
H[/QUOTE]It is on Soi post office 13/2.
I have had 2 not so good experiences there. They do suck your cock under the bar while you are sitting at the bar having a drink. But the effort has been shitty and the girls bad attitude and fatso looks detract from it.
They also charged 850B.
Heard of a quick exchange of info?
If thats the attitude, everyone can just cancel their membeship and google.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1400353]You heard of google? Plenty of maps on location.[/QUOTE]
Consult Luvpuss, he is a veritable fountain of helpfull info.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1400378]I was watching for the answer to Henry's question because I tried to find Bliss Lounge last time in Patts. I struck out. I just tried your helpful tip and struck out again. I got 4 results on google maps but none of them were for Bliss Lounge. Perhaps it's just my search technique, can you show us the way?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HenryV; 1400582]Heard of a quick exchange of info?
If thats the attitude, everyone can just cancel their membeship and google.[/QUOTE]With almost 800 posts you would think a guy would figure it out.
Yes, many many "general" questions can be answered on here with a simple google search. Maps, directions, info about places, reviews, etc. Why not get an instant answer especially when you ask "where is this or that place". Many times more info. can be found on a search than members can provide.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1400592]With almost 800 posts you would think a guy would figure it out.
Yes, many many "general" questions can be answered on here with a simple google search. Maps, directions, info about places, reviews, etc. Why not get an instant answer especially when you ask "where is this or that place". Many times more info. Can be found on a search than members can provide.[/QUOTE]Tell a man (not me) "asshole" and chances are you will be drinking together later on.
Tell him "google it" and you will have made a an enemy forever.
Maybe because we're protective of our right to smalltalk.
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1400596]Tell a man (not me)"asshole" and chances are you will be drinking together later on.
Tell him "google it" and you will have made a an enemy forever.
Maybe because we're protective of our right to smalltalk.[/QUOTE]Yeah. You are probably right.
I am really not trying to be an AH about it.
In fact, I am trying to help people get as much info as possible.
Truly, you can many times get much more info. quicker and better if you search it.
This happened yesterday. Was walking to Pattaya Central Mall via 2nd Road and cops were there stopping motorbike riders. They would pull over and keep about 100 percent of the people, and figure they stopped about 90 percent farangs. Apparently if you do not have a drivers license, you must pay I believe 500 baht. Asked a farang who looked pissed off what was going on. He said he had his license in his hotel room. However, the cops were keeping the keys to the motorbike, so he could not even get to his wallet. This made no sense to me on two levels. 1. How could a person drive a motorbike without having their drivers license on their person? 2. How could the cops keep this guys motorbike keys and not even allow him access to his own wallet? Clearly many things make no sense to me, and thus is. I just gave the guy a 20, and he was thrilled and took a jeepney up to his hotel to get his license. Hopefully it worked out.
Later that night decided to head to Mixx Disco. Never been there before, and need make the journey. Went down, and on the outside of the disco was cute gal. Started talking and she asked for 600 and I agreed, so off we went. On the way, she wanted to stop at McDonald's. Love that "family restaurant" located right in the heart of Prostitute Central, WS. She ordered what she wanted, and I waited across the way at this bar with a live band. Good music, and I ordered tonic water and we listened to the band playing as she ate her McShit. Well, one of these nights will make it to Mixx.
Got to hotel, everything went wrong. Little Popper had it really rough these last months, often working once, or even twice daily. Also did not turn on the hotel AC, so was sweating hard, not having much fun. She was whining about needing to go and see her friends. I got sick of her batchin' so out the door she went, no tip.
Two weeks ago did the dental thing. Three times a year whenever I head to Pattaya / Phil / Indonesia see a dentist. At least once a year do the Pattaya International Hospital. It cost about twice other dentists, but absolutely worth it. You get a better cleaning. Most charge 800 baht. ** PIH charges 1400 to 1600 baht. ** Especially if from the States, get your health care here in Thailand. US a complete disaster in terms of out of control medical costs.
** Note: Dentists charge different people different rates. Those amounts are what I personally pay, YMMV.
About 10:00 this evening went to Billion. Before that checked out Blue, next door. Talent there was horrible. I mean baaaaad. Billion not much better. Gal I chose was perhaps a solid 6 (with proper lighting). She gave the BJ / HJ and good attitude / experience overall. Only complaint was when I ready to come, she allowed all the Little Poppers to fly all over the place and did not swallow. Bit unfortunate. She said I was the only customer of Billion for any of the gals all day. And yesterday Billion only had two customers. You guys got to help them poor hags, urrrrrrrrrrrrr gals out. Overall, positive experience at 700 plus tip.
All to report.
--Popper
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[QUOTE=Popper1;1400629]Apparently if you do not have a drivers license, you must pay I believe 500 baht. Asked a farang who looked pissed off what was going on. He said he had his license in his hotel room. However, the cops were keeping the keys to the motorbike, so he could not even get to his wallet. This made no sense to me on two levels. 1. How could a person drive a motorbike without having their drivers license on their person?[/quote]Eh? You never left your documents behind sometime? I did, now I hope that doesn't make me a deviant person, hahaha.
[quote]2. How could the cops keep this guys motorbike keys and not even allow him access to his own wallet? Clearly many things make no sense to me, and thus is. I just gave the guy a 20, and he was thrilled and took a jeepney up to his hotel to get his license. Hopefully it worked out.[/quote]If he had said "my money inside bike" they would have opened the seat for him. They are jerks but not sadics.
The rest is standard operating procedure. Do not think legality or anything Western styled. If one has the D / L they may have keep it, since he did not, the went for keys. By the way I left an expired D / L to them a week ago, just for the thrill of not paying Bt. 400. Then after 3 minutes I got pulled over again, showed the fresh ticket, and let go. Keep your helmet on and D / L when driving in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=PattsBoy17; 1400322]Attention Luvpuss,
See my post a few posts down where I asked you if you had any additional info on a girl you had commented on.
Now it's possible you missed it. I doubt it since you commented on a post just above it.
Now I'm new here. Though not new to mongering or LOS. So I ask myself. What's the problem?
This is a mongers forum. If you don't want to help your choice. You don't have to be arsehole about it by ignoring a request.
Jeez. Get a fucking life![/QUOTE]If you speak like that to members you don't deserve any help or advice!
[QUOTE=Popper1;1400629]This happened yesterday. Was walking to Pattaya Central Mall via 2nd Road and cops were there stopping motorbike riders. They would pull over and keep about 100 percent of the people, and figure they stopped about 90 percent farangs. Apparently if you do not have a drivers license, you must pay I believe 500 baht. Asked a farang who looked pissed off what was going on. He said he had his license in his hotel room. However, the cops were keeping the keys to the motorbike, so he could not even get to his wallet. This made no sense to me on two levels. 1. How could a person drive a motorbike without having their drivers license on their person? 2. How could the cops keep this guys motorbike keys and not even allow him access to his own wallet? Clearly many things make no sense to me, and thus is. I just gave the guy a 20, and he was thrilled and took a jeepney up to his hotel to get his license. Hopefully it worked out.[/QUOTE]It was his own fault for leaving the hotel with no money AND no license. I did the same thing the first time I got a ticket. Well I had money but not enough to pay the fines for no license (400 baht) and going the wrong way (400 baht). I had to walk back to the hotel twice and borrow money from my wingman because I didn't get enough the first time.
The other morning on 3rd Road and Central Pattaya the police was pulling people over and keeping bikes left and right. They were not farang, they were Thai. Except this one lady. She only had a green passport and no license. The police stands there every freaking morning. I still can't figure out why most of these people don't wear helmets when they know he is always there. And 9 times out of 10 it is a woman who is in violation.
The other night I was perusing Walking Street about 3am when I decided to head to Mixx. I went to my bike, which was parked in front of Bamboo. I made a right down Second Road and a little past Marine I looked at a chick standing alone on the corner who was looking back at me. I turned my bike around to talk to her. She said I am here looking for work. Massage Boom-Boom 700 baht. I asked for how long? She said okay 500 baht. I said yes but for how much time? She said up to you. I gave her the helmet and told her to get on. Great experience. When she finally left she didn't ask for any of that bs taxi money or anything. She was happy with the 500 that we agreed upon.
Visited Pattaya for 4 nights in mid Feb. Was unlucky to be there when police were conducting their raids on Beach Road at night. Still got some action but due to being picky, on a tight budget and various logistical factors, not as much as I had hoped and expected. Freelance girls were pretty hit and miss. More hits than misses thankfully. Stayed at Flipper lodge on Soi 8 so was pretty convenient for action. However, most of the hotter action I got was from girls around the Soi 10 area. The main highlights were a stunning, petite lady in her 30's but looks in her 20's (working at a bar on Soi 8 between Flipper Lodge & Beach Road called Good Times I think) and a lady in her 30's on beach Road called An. The latter suggested she has a side job working with the police helping them take fingerprints etc of girls picked up etc. Don't know what to make of that but she caused no trouble. Got both girls' numbers as they suggested they could arrange a preggo girl for me but neither came through. The former declined my offer to pass her's on to senior members here but An agreed. So, if any senior member wants her number, PM me. Also, if anyone wants me to report full details of my experience then PM me also. If I get much interest I will post a full report here.
DL
[QUOTE=Bumholes1;1400761]If you speak like that to members you don't deserve any help or advice![/QUOTE]Really! Oh please Mr Bumholes1. Please teach me how to speak to someone who totally ignores a request.
As I clearly stated in my post that you quote. If a member does not want to give out info or advice. Their choice!
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[QUOTE=PattsBoy17; 1400952]Really! Oh please Mr Bumholes1. Please teach me how to speak to someone who totally ignores a request.
As I clearly stated in my post that you quote. If a member does not want to give out info or advice. Their choice!
I won't hold that against anyone. But to ignore someone's request is just plain, being an "arsehole"
But as your screename shows you are pretty used to that huh!
Ciao[/QUOTE]7 posts with only requests and insults. Who do you think you are? You deserve to be ignored and are from now on my such list.
Probably Jackson should even delete your attacks.
I would like to thank the gents that responded to my asking for info about BJ places in Patts, especially to someone lik me with almost no posts. I m still in Bnagkok atm but have plenty of time to go down to Pattaya. I will send a field report about my shenanigans this weekend.
Cheers,
H
[QUOTE=Tiger 888; 1401093]7 posts with only requests and insults. Who do you think you are? You deserve to be ignored and are from now on my such list.
Probably Jackson should even delete your attacks.[/QUOTE]I'm very sorry Mr Senior member Tiger 888. But let's look at the facts.
1. I only made 1 request. Not requests. Hardly a hanging offence!
2. I believe my "insult" singular was appropriate. Re the action or inaction in this case of the offending member.
3. I wasn't aware that there was a quota of posts required before one could: "Request or Insult". If so please advice. Or I'm sorry it seems I don't have enough posts to request this!
4. Delete my attacks! Bit of a drama queen aren't we. My posts hardly constitute "attacks". Just my tame opinion on the behaviour of a particular member.
I thought this was a forum to exchange information; advice and suchlike!
Being a senior member does not afford you any rights over me. I probably have more experience in mongering worldwide then you will ever have.
Have a nice day!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1400776]The other night I was perusing Walking Street about 3am when I decided to head to Mixx. I went to my bike, which was parked in front of Bamboo. I made a right down Second Road and a little past Marine I looked at a chick standing alone on the corner who was looking back at me. I turned my bike around to talk to her. She said I am here looking for work. Massage Boom-Boom 700 baht. I asked for how long? She said okay 500 baht. I said yes but for how much time? She said up to you. I gave her the helmet and told her to get on. Great experience. When she finally left she didn't ask for any of that bs taxi money or anything. She was happy with the 500 that we agreed upon.[/QUOTE]Nice. Do you take them to your home or do you find a nearby ST hotel?
[QUOTE=PattsBoy17;1401193]I'm very sorry Mr Senior member Tiger 888. But let's look at the facts. ![/QUOTE]7 posts and three of them have been banned.
This is a fact too.
I think the picture is pretty much clear.
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1400654]Eh? You never left your documents behind sometime? I did, now I hope that doesn't make me a deviant person, hahaha.
If he had said "my money inside bike" they would have opened the seat for him. They are jerks but not sadics.
The rest is standard operating procedure. Do not think legality or anything Western styled. If one has the D / L they may have keep it, since he did not, the went for keys. By the way I left an expired D / L to them a week ago, just for the thrill of not paying Bt. 400. Then after 3 minutes I got pulled over again, showed the fresh ticket, and let go. Keep your helmet on and D / L when driving in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I was pulled over in the same place and had to show my licence. BUT, my UK licence didn't have a motorbike symbol on the back, so I got the 400Bht fine. The police have been happy with my licence every other time. I've debated this elsewhere and I guess the police were within their rights but I still felt a little pissed off.
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[QUOTE=Mouse1;1401976]I was pulled over in the same place and had to show my licence. BUT, my UK licence didn't have a motorbike symbol on the back, so I got the 400Bht fine. The police have been happy with my licence every other time. I've debated this elsewhere and I guess the police were within their rights but I still felt a little pissed off.[/QUOTE]Police's attitude in Thailand, especially toward foreigners, is one of the most debated subjects.
My experience over the years, is that when they're are out to give fines, they will give them when they are due, to both Thai and foreigners equally. That happens especially and regularly in Pattaya and Phuket, after few days one gets to know exactly were they stand and at which times, altough there can be always the occasional surpise.
Other than that, one may meet the stray cop out for a good hit, but generally speaking I found them to be reasonably fair. I got stopped yesterday in Patpong BKK, they were especially looking for DUIs. They use first an hand-held device with green / yellow / red leds. Despite the contrary advice from a supposedly experienced lawyer, I got convinced by the Thai GF to blow in the portable ethilometer that comes with disposable spouts. The machine proved to be accurate, indicating 15 mg / l, for the one large beer I had. Limit is 50, so that was ok. Had I refused to be tested, I was given the alternative to brige 2000 to be let go. On the other hand I know there have been cases where they took no bribe and went with full extent of law against intoxicated drivers.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1401987]On the other hand I know there have been cases where they took no bribe and went with full extent of law against intoxicated drivers.[/QUOTE]That is what they should always do.
[QUOTE=PattsBoy17; 1401193]I'm very sorry Mr Senior member Tiger 888. But let's look at the facts.
1. I only made 1 request. Not requests. Hardly a hanging offence!
2. I believe my "insult" singular was appropriate. Re the action or inaction in this case of the offending member.
3. I wasn't aware that there was a quota of posts required before one could: "Request or Insult". If so please advice. Or I'm sorry it seems I don't have enough posts to request this!
4. Delete my attacks! Bit of a drama queen aren't we. My posts hardly constitute "attacks". Just my tame opinion on the behaviour of a particular member.
I thought this was a forum to exchange information; advice and suchlike!
Being a senior member does not afford you any rights over me. I probably have more experience in mongering worldwide then you will ever have.
Have a nice day![/QUOTE]This post I find a little bit bitter and twisted, from someone who has no experience on this board, come on, have some respect there fellah.
i have but with a cursitory eye reviewed the posts in question and, nonetheless, it appears speech restrictions are a little one-way.
is not one mans dues as good as another?
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[quote=henryv; 1402585]i have but with a cursitory eye reviewed the posts in question and, nonetheless, it appears speech restrictions are a little one-way.
is not one mans dues as good as another?[/quote]when you say dues, do you mean a subscription fee? if so pattsboy has not paid that which is why he is a regular member. if not then what do you mean? but really this is not about membership standing, it's about how one conducts himself on the forum and whether he abides by the rules of jackson's site.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1402609]When you say dues, do you mean a subscription fee? If so Pattsboy has not paid that which is why he is a regular member.[/QUOTE]Being a regular member has nothing to do with paying to be a subscriber. It is a certain number of posts that elevates you from being a regular member to being a senior member.
"Senior Members are former Regular Members who have been members for at least 6 months and have made 25 or more contributions to The Forum. Senior Member's reports are temporarily held until they are reviewed by a Forum Moderator."
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1401976]I was pulled over in the same place and had to show my licence. BUT, my UK licence didn't have a motorbike symbol on the back, so I got the 400Bht fine. The police have been happy with my licence every other time. I've debated this elsewhere and I guess the police were within their rights but I still felt a little pissed off.[/QUOTE]My experience was being told " that is an EU driving licence you need international licence to drive here" end quote, it was only 200 baht tea money, and since then I have always carried an international driving licence, I have been stopped, and let go without tea money or the request for it.
Hello everybody, I will be in Pattaya the beginning of April. If any fellow mongers would like to meet up and have chat over a cold one. Message me!
Sixty Two Echo
[QUOTE=Col Law;1402663]My experience was being told " that is an EU driving licence you need international licence to drive here" end quote, it was only 200 baht tea money, and since then I have always carried an international driving licence, I have been stopped, and let go without tea money or the request for it.[/QUOTE]I am sure there is no set rule. I show them my Calif. DL, my AAA insurance card and passport.
I have always been let go. Doesn't mean next time I won't have to pay.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1402729]I am sure there is no set rule. I show them my Calif. DL, my AAA insurance card and passport.
I have always been let go. Doesn't mean next time I won't have to pay.[/QUOTE]To Luvpuss.
If you have AAA in California you can get a international driver LIC for 15 USD, I never drive in Thailand go there 2 time a yr but I drive in Hong kong and Singapore but China and Brazil will not accept International lic.
[url]www.aaa.com/vacation/idpf.html[/url]
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1402729]I am sure there is no set rule. I show them my Calif. DL, my AAA insurance card and passport.
I have always been let go. Doesn't mean next time I won't have to pay.[/QUOTE]To legally drive in Thailand you need to have either a Thai driving licence or a International Driving Licence / Permit. If you don't then the police are entitled to ask you to pay a fine.
That's why the police mainly pull over tourists (on motorcycles-scooters) at the checkpoints on 2nd Road and Beach Road as it is a 99% sure way of getting their fine.
Most reputable places will have the licence requirement in the small print of the rental contract, but who reads that? Hence why so many have to cough up.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1402729]I am sure there is no set rule. I show them my Calif. DL, my AAA insurance card and passport.
I have always been let go. Doesn't mean next time I won't have to pay.[/QUOTE]There is in many ways a set rule? That set rule is act like you know like yourself what you are doing. I get stopped more often than I would like once a week on the darkside.
Once stopped I get off take the key out and move towards my seat to open it and get out all my paperwork. Regardless of whether I need to carry it I have it, if asked. Never in all the years have I had a cop even try to take my keys from my bike?
From all the years of being stopped throughout Pattaya not just in the tourist area the one thing I know going back 10 years is at one time they had no idea what a International Driver license look like? Through the years in Pattaya with the cops it has become popular since many renting bikes just want to rent them knowing full well they will get stop at some point. Let's get this out too that you don't have insurance on the bike regardless of what the rental shop guys tell you!
The rule of thumb is that the cops can't read English! They look at the International book because that is what their chief have told them to do. I can tell you majority of them don't even have the stamp next to the motorbike area allowing or confirming that you can drive a motorbike. The more you give them the more confused they are so in many cases not to lose face they look at it and act like they know what they are doing and give it back to you.
They have check points throughout Pattaya, the smallest thing you can do for yourself at a light is stay right and never be the first to go through. Count to three and then go for two reasons? Cars running red light and the first wave always gets pull over they can only pull so many over?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1403281]Let's get this out too that you don't have insurance on the bike regardless of what the rental shop guys tell you![/QUOTE]There is definitely some kind of insurance on the bike. It may not be the kind you may need in a particular situation, but there is definitely something. Why else would I have to go to the insurance window at the DMV and pay 200 baht each year before I can get my tag.
I have been stopped at these 3 places:
The south end of 2nd Road. Not far from the go cart area.
The north part of 2nd Road. Near the circle.
As you enter Beach Road. From the north.
I have seen them as these 3 locations many times.
One thing that I did last time near the go-carts is as I was coming down the hill, I got off and walked my bike through the intersection. They were stopping everyone.
A pain in the ass, but they never even gave me a sniff.
Beach road just past Soi 8 there is a cop station. Seen many times out there stopping tourist
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1403292]There is definitely some kind of insurance on the bike. It may not be the kind you may need in a particular situation, but there is definitely something. Why else would I have to go to the insurance window at the DMV and pay 200 baht each year before I can get my tag.[/QUOTE]Mr. E. Stud, you continue to do what you do best and that is stay out late and find that pussy
Which many have questioned you but I know you are a young master. When it comes to domestic
Items and day to day living aside from the mongering leave that to me?
Yes there is some kind of insurance and although you pay yearly with your bike registration before it happens to you and you try to file I'll save you the laughter.
Since you and I aren't Thais this insurance is useless to us because it basically goes towards their National health care. This insurance allows a Thai who gets into a accident to go to a place like Banglamung Hospital.
And get treated. But nevertheless you have to pay it, on a rented I will stick my neck out and say 99. 9%
Of the Thais renting a bike to you will say something " have insurance" if he / she can speak some English
Ask them the next question. If the bike gets stolen or damage beyond repair what is it going to cost me to buy it?
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1403312]I have been stopped at these 3 places:
The south end of 2nd Road. Not far from the go cart area.
The north part of 2nd Road. Near the circle.
As you enter Beach Road. From the north.
I have seen them as these 3 locations many times.
One thing that I did last time near the go-carts is as I was coming down the hill, I got off and walked my bike through the intersection. They were stopping everyone.
A pain in the ass, but they never even gave me a sniff.[/QUOTE]Smart move, broken bike?
LBM
[QUOTE=Jp Slicky;1403426]Beach road just past Soi 8 there is a cop station. Seen many times out there stopping tourist[/QUOTE]My point, stick to the right because they are on left near their station. Once right continue on the right until you are past Central. Lately they have a secondary cop after Soi 9, waiting?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1403452]Since you and I aren't Thais this insurance is useless to us because it basically goes towards their National health care. This insurance allows a Thai who gets into a accident to go to a place like Banglamung Hospital. And get treated. But nevertheless you have to pay it, on a rented I will stick my neck out and say 99. 9% Of the Thais renting a bike to you will say something " have insurance" if he / she can speak some English Ask them the next question. If the bike gets stolen or damage beyond repair what is it going to cost me to buy it?[/QUOTE]That is why I stated that there was some kind of insurance, although it may not be the kind you are in need of. When a car did a hit and run on my cousin he had to pay 1500 baht for the bike. I never saw the shape of the bike, but he looked like he had gotten beat up with an ugly stick.
If little faults, proceeding on distemper,
Shall not be wink'd at, how shall we stretch our eye.
When capital crimes, chew'd, swallow'd and digested,
Appear before us? We'll yet enlarge that man, though
Crazy4Thai, Luvpuss, and others, would have him punished.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1402609]When you say dues, do you mean a subscription fee? If so Pattsboy has not paid that which is why he is a regular member. If not then what do you mean? But really this is not about membership standing, it's about how one conducts himself on the forum and whether he abides by the rules of Jackson's site.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Juicyclamlover; 1403227]To legally drive in Thailand you need to have either a Thai driving licence or a International Driving Licence / Permit. If you don't then the police are entitled to ask you to pay a fine.
That's why the police mainly pull over tourists (on motorcycles-scooters) at the checkpoints on 2nd Road and Beach Road as it is a 99% sure way of getting their fine.
Most reputable places will have the licence requirement in the small print of the rental contract, but who reads that? Hence why so many have to cough up.[/QUOTE]I got stopped two times and fined 400 baht. The headache is that you have to go to police station to clear the fine and get your license back.
I raccomend for anybody staying longer then one mont hin Thailand, to make a proper Thai driving license. It is easy, cheap and quick.
Happy mongering
[QUOTE=ProfetaPk; 1403522]I got stopped two times and fined 400 baht. The headache is that you have to go to police station to clear the fine and get your license back.
I raccomend for anybody staying longer then one mont hin Thailand, to make a proper Thai driving license. It is easy, cheap and quick.
Happy mongering[/QUOTE]Really? Did you just ask for the citation?
I guys I saw were just paying the cops at the scene. 500B
[QUOTE=ProfetaPk;1403522]I raccomend for anybody staying longer then one mont hin Thailand, to make a proper Thai driving license. It is easy, cheap and quick.[/QUOTE]And maybe even cool to show to firends, but won't save you from getting a fine if a cop is determined to give, and will not make a bit of difference in case you're involved in an accident (knock wood).
[QUOTE=ProfetaPk;1403522]I raccomend for anybody staying longer then one mont hin Thailand, to make a proper Thai driving license. It is easy, cheap and quick.[/QUOTE]Well, relatively speaking it might be cheap but it sure as hell isn't easy or quick. The office is way out in the boondocks and I'm told the waiting time is insufferable. I've been living here for almost 6 years now and haven't got around to it yet. It's easier to just pay the fines; better yet to avoid the checkpoints by knowing where they are and when the cops are there.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1403815]Well, relatively speaking it might be cheap but it sure as hell isn't easy or quick.[/QUOTE]Correct. I did go to the office in Phuket with two perfectly valid D / Ls accompanied by their respective International carnets, for the purpose of avoiding at least the driving test, as Thai regulations allows. Under various excuses they would not accept either one. I got to understand their attitude (take long time), cut my losses to the cost of immigration address certification and medical certificate, and forgot about it, for now at least.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1403676]And maybe even cool to show to firends, but won't save you from getting a fine if a cop is determined to give, and will not make a bit of difference in case you're involved in an accident (knock wood).[/QUOTE]It makes a huge difference.
Every bike has 3rd party insurance meaning that they will pay for the damage you do in an accident,
Even to the person riding pillion on your bike, but only if you have a valid license.
The license is also a valid I. D. And quite easy to get. It took me one day for both motorbike and car.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1403815]Well, relatively speaking it might be cheap but it sure as hell isn't easy or quick. The office is way out in the boondocks and I'm told the waiting time is insufferable. I've been living here for almost 6 years now and haven't got around to it yet. It's easier to just pay the fines; better yet to avoid the checkpoints by knowing where they are and when the cops are there.[/QUOTE]For the last 3 years it has only taken me about an hour. I usually go at 11am. But first you have to go to immigration with copy of your lease to get the residence paperwork and you also have to go to a doctor to get a medical letter. You must have a copy of all you documents for each type of license you wish to apply for.
First night, some highlights:
- getting rejected at Baccara (or is it Battara) because I was on the Japan / Korea / School girl floor.
- have to give it to those guys, there where making it rain non-stop with those ping ping balls for about 45 minuets after arriving, and fully committed to the place by ordering champagne, whiskey, etc.
- got a BJ in the bathroom at soi 6 in a gogo for 1000 bt (I told the girl I had a hotel very far away)
- was taking aback by the cost / benefit ratio of the Russian bar on walking street, for some reason I thought they would have had hotter Russian girls, but this tendency is the same in London and Germany.
- managed to get another one from the hotel (five star) , it some convincing, although this may have well been a show put on in order to increase the tip.
- a few times in the night the mamasans charming laser pointer, very disappointingly, missed the cutest and youngest girl dancing. Maybe because she was spoken for? Or are there gogos that are really only that? Need to investigate this further.
Question for the veterans: when you negotiate price and services with the gogo girl, it is necessary to specify 'smoking' whiteout? Or is this assumed, as in some of my beloved fkk place?
Thanks and best
- getting rejected at Baccara (or is it Battara) because I was on the Japan / Korea / School girl floor.
Can you tell us more details about this? Did they reject you because of your race or other reason?
I called over a girl. She was happy enough to accept a lady drink. But then the rising sun "ballers" started making ping pong balls rain, then one of them ran on the dance floor and threw about 30 100 baht notes into the air as if he was starring in some cheesy rap video from Atalanta. Then they started giving full buckets of ping pong balls to individual girls, I think this is a 2000 baht value, although she will spot her mama san and the older ***** that protects her some. At this point the very young looking girl took one hard look at me, and suggested I meet her friend, whom she called over, and left.
[QUOTE=Islandboy54; 1403876]It makes a huge difference.
Every bike has 3rd party insurance meaning that they will pay for the damage you do in an accident,
Even to the person riding pillion on your bike, but only if you have a valid license.
The license is also a valid I. D. And quite easy to get. It took me one day for both motorbike and car.[/QUOTE]I believe your remark is incorrect regarding " Every bike has a 3rd party Insurance " " Even to the person riding pillion " Can you clarify your statement? If you are referring to bike owners having automatic insurance through their yearly registration of their bikes that if one is in a accident it is covered? Reference to 3rd party would mean to me that a individual has gone out and purchased this insurance from a agent? If this is the case you are dead wrong? Many Thais can't even afford to change the oil every 4 thousand Km?
LBM
[QUOTE=Don Christiano; 1403925]First night, some highlights:
- getting rejected at Baccara (or is it Battara) because I was on the Japan / Korea / School girl floor.
- have to give it to those guys, there where making it rain non-stop with those ping ping balls for about 45 minuets after arriving, and fully committed to the place by ordering champagne, whiskey, etc.
- got a BJ in the bathroom at soi 6 in a gogo for 1000 bt (I told the girl I had a hotel very far away)
- was taking aback by the cost / benefit ratio of the Russian bar on walking street, for some reason I thought they would have had hotter Russian girls, but this tendency is the same in London and Germany.
- managed to get another one from the hotel (five star) , it some convincing, although this may have well been a show put on in order to increase the tip.
- a few times in the night the mamasans charming laser pointer, very disappointingly, missed the cutest and youngest girl dancing. Maybe because she was spoken for? Or are there gogos that are really only that? Need to investigate this further.
Question for the veterans: when you negotiate price and services with the gogo girl, it is necessary to specify 'smoking' whiteout? Or is this assumed, as in some of my beloved fkk place?
Thanks and best[/QUOTE]You want a suggestion? Get the fuck out of the Gogo's. Much better options in Pats then those places.
well, on my way to walking street. last night slightly after 8pm, came down pattaya tai, to 3rd road. like most often a driver in a car had the left turn lane block because he wanted to go straight, after some work i work my way up to the front but this was going to be a long wait for the light now?
as many farangs have complaint that the sign in thai and english for making a left is unclear to farangs. for myself, the way it is phrased reads like one should stop and then can proceed to make the left. not ever being sure since i have seen and heard people getting tickets. when i got to the corner i moved forward and looked left to see if there was a cop further down? i saw no one so i made the left after the move it i saw the cop up on the sidewalk back hiding in the dark start to step out to get me. i was in no mood to stop and have to deal with one guy out to make a little extra money since it is near the end of month and most likely his rent is due? i made no hesitation after the turn and shot towards the right and middle of the road to avoid him but his timing and my speed he had no chance of grabbing me. i never turn my head and look back in the mirror watching him stare at me. i made another illegal turn just to spike him never looking back?
lucky me, no ticket this time but they year is still early?
lbm
[QUOTE=Don Christiano; 1403925]First night, some highlights:
Snip.
- got a BJ in the bathroom at soi 6 in a gogo for 1000 bt (I told the girl I had a hotel very far away)
- was taking aback by the cost / benefit ratio of the Russian bar on walking street, for some reason I thought they would have had hotter Russian girls, but this tendency is the same in London and Germany.
Snip.
Question for the veterans: when you negotiate price and services with the gogo girl, it is necessary to specify 'smoking' whiteout? Or is this assumed, as in some of my beloved fkk place?
Thanks and best[/QUOTE]1000 seems to high, but I like the idea of completing the task in the john. No barfine!
Agree about the "Russian" girls. Look pasty and strung out to me.
What is "whiteout"?
Unfortunately, during my last trip, I discovered that even BBBJ is not always on the table, much less to completion. So, always ask up front.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1404076]You want a suggestion? Get the fuck out of the Gogo's. Much better options in Pats then those places.[/QUOTE] In your opinion, where would the better options exist in Pattaya?
[QUOTE=PattsBoy17; 1401193]I'm very sorry Mr Senior member Tiger 888. But let's look at the facts.
1. I only made 1 request. Not requests. Hardly a hanging offence!
2. I believe my "insult" singular was appropriate. Re the action or inaction in this case of the offending member.
3. I wasn't aware that there was a quota of posts required before one could: "Request or Insult". If so please advice. Or I'm sorry it seems I don't have enough posts to request this!
4. Delete my attacks! Bit of a drama queen aren't we. My posts hardly constitute "attacks". Just my tame opinion on the behaviour of a particular member.
I thought this was a forum to exchange information; advice and suchlike!
Being a senior member does not afford you any rights over me. I probably have more experience in mongering worldwide then you will ever have.
Have a nice day![/QUOTE]Jackson,
Can you create a whiny bitches forum and make PattsBoy17 emperor for life?
[QUOTE=Don Christiano; 1403925]First night, some highlights:
- getting rejected at Baccara (or is it Battara) because I was on the Japan / Korea / School girl floor.
- got a BJ in the bathroom at soi 6 in a gogo for 1000 bt (I told the girl I had a hotel very far away)
- a few times in the night the mamasans charming laser pointer, very disappointingly, missed the cutest and youngest girl dancing. Maybe because she was spoken for? Or are there gogos that are really only that? Need to investigate this further.
Question for the veterans: when you negotiate price and services with the gogo girl, it is necessary to specify 'smoking' whiteout? Or is this assumed, as in some of my beloved fkk place?
Thanks and best[/QUOTE]My advice:
- Baccara isn't like that every time so if you go at another time when the Japs / Asian punters aren't throwing tons of money, you'll get better service / attention. In January my mate got a Baccara upstairs cutie for BF B 700 (may have still been B 600 back then) + ST B 1, 500, but he had to chat up 2 or 3 ladies to get the ST 1. 5k. The Bac stunners (such as Pui) less likely to discount their price unless they're especially fond of that particular customer.
- On WS check-out the more customer friendly GGs (eg the girls less likely to be arrogant / starfish) such as Casnovy (LD B 110, BF B 600, ST B 2k, LT B 3k) , Windmill or Babydolls (BF drops to B 300 after 01:30 am) , Beach / Peppermint / Happy (the Happy Group owns these 3 and Baccara, but Bac is the best of the bunch and draws the biggest Asian ballers who can spoil the Bac gals).
- Off WS there's Soi 7 & Soi 8 (GGs include Clinic, Silver Star 1 & 2) or Soi LK Metro (GGs include Champagne, Office, nearby The Club Oasis) which have gals that can more easily be negotiated to ST 1k. 1.5k, LT 2k. 2.5k + BFs. At Clinic GG they have a deal where if you use the upstairs ST room you pay Room Fee B 350 + ST 1. 5k and they waive the BF B 600. Clinic has 1 spinner hottie dancer and 1 spinner hottie welcome girl (looked good in her outfit, but who knows what she looks like topless / naked).
- Tell mamasan if you like a particular number (eg lady # "48" at Beach GG or "21" at Peppermint) or what specific talents ("I want lady smoke no condom") and she'll bring you ladies meeting those criterias. Especially if the lady's just sitting around, you can chat up the lady to confirm that "you go ST / LT with customer, no problem?", that she does "smoke no condom, ok" before you decide to buy her a LD. It helps to break the ice with them, some small talk, smile at her and get her to smile / be comfortable with you.
- During negotiations, don't assume anything. For example: If for LT you expect her to stay until 7 am, you can tell her "you go home 7 am, ok?" and even make her repeat what you said so she can't claim ignorance later.
- For better value go to the BBs such as Drinking Street, Action Street, Sirens / PBG (Patts Beer Garden) beerbar complex, new & old Simon, etc, and BF bargirls. To avoid BFs get FLs (freelancers) from WS, the discos, Bamboo Bar (to the left of the WS entrance) , CB / BR (Coconut Bar / Beach Road) , the malls, and so on.
- I'm in Patts until 6 April and tonight (Friday night) I will hit a few GGs. If you want to meet for a drink, my cell is 091-583-2295. Good luck and happy mongering.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1404110]In your opinion, where would the better options exist in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]I know your question was meant for Luvpuss but if you / Luvpuss don't mind me interjecting: The top 3 values IMHO.
1) FLs, especially from CB, who start at ST B 500 and LT B 1k.
2) Soi 6 since the BF B 300 includes use of ST room upstairs and most Soi 6 ladies do BBBJ and easy to find ones (eg at Red Point Bar) that take CIM.
3) Bargirls can be had for BF B 300 + starting ST B 500 or LT B 1k
[QUOTE=Islandboy54; 1403876]It makes a huge difference.
Every bike has 3rd party insurance meaning that they will pay for the damage you do in an accident,
Even to the person riding pillion on your bike, but only if you have a valid license.
The license is also a valid I. D. And quite easy to get. It took me one day for both motorbike and car.[/QUOTE]You are dreaming. Go check the coverage that is included in the Gov. Nt yearly registration, it's something like 4 or 5000 Bt. Post a link here if you can find it. Then if you want a real insuranace, you will have to pay for it separately. Why do you think the insurance companies have a desk in the Motor office.
And if you are legal to drive (meaning home country D/L for motorcycle, and International carnet) , you do not need a Thai D / L.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1404121]The street boss the street! Aka "the plane boss the plane" as the guatamalan midget used to say to ricardo montalban on that fantasy island show years ago. LOL.
PS-never say an episode. LOL.
So much disdain for agogos. Why? They do serve a purpose![/QUOTE]That little fella was a midget? I was too young to ever watch it, but I thought he was just a little kid ringing a bell LOL I went on youtube and he actually looks kinda like Oscar de La Hoya in the face.
I went back to Pattaya for a few hours last week, not a mongering trip, but a side trip after helping the ol ball and chain help her brother move, actually didn't even help them much but got a free meal out of it. A complete 180 from the first time I been there, I guess it was the absolute worst time to have been there, during a major Buddha holiday and not much was happening except it was full of roided out dudes, soccer hooligans, and ugly girls and ladyboys who looked like Mike Singeltary with a wig on. This time there were quite a few hot girls outside the gogos and just walking around everywhere. And what was the deal with the Asian tour groups carrying a flag? LOL
Amex,
Tranks for the pointers, will put them into action right now!
Actually kind of applied your strategy yesterday, went early to shark club and got a very nice all package at 3k.
Wanted to follow this up with a LT stunner at what's up, but it was so crowded with Indian guys not buying any drinks for girls (not hating, just relating) , that I could not find a spot to sit. Ended up going to Insomnia for a FL, which is cost but not time efficient, as well know. Had an interesting chat with a couple rioted up local expats, although the conversation dies down once you ask them about what tactic they applied to land the 20 ish, non-hardened girl they are with.
Keep moving,
Gambi
Hi Amex!
Will be in BGK starting day after tomorrow and think about going to Patt thereafter. If you think it is worth it. We definitely should meet up there for joint mongering and some beers.
Cheers Aljoscha.
[QUOTE=Amex Spg; 1404174]My advice:
- Baccara isn't like that every time so if you go at another time when the Japs / Asian punters aren't throwing tons of money, you'll get better service / attention. In January my mate got a Baccara upstairs cutie for BF B 700 (may have still been B 600 back then) + ST B 1, 500, but he had to chat up 2 or 3 ladies to get the ST 1. 5k. The Bac stunners (such as Pui) less likely to discount their price unless they're especially fond of that particular customer.
- On WS check-out the more customer friendly GGs (eg the girls less likely to be arrogant / starfish) such as Casnovy (LD B 110, BF B 600, ST B 2k, LT B 3k) , Windmill or Babydolls (BF drops to B 300 after 01:30 am) , Beach / Peppermint / Happy (the Happy Group owns these 3 and Baccara, but Bac is the best of the bunch and draws the biggest Asian ballers who can spoil the Bac gals).
- Off WS there's Soi 7 & Soi 8 (GGs include Clinic, Silver Star 1 & 2) or Soi LK Metro (GGs include Champagne, Office, nearby The Club Oasis) which have gals that can more easily be negotiated to ST 1k. 1.5k, LT 2k. 2.5k + BFs. At Clinic GG they have a deal where if you use the upstairs ST room you pay Room Fee B 350 + ST 1. 5k and they waive the BF B 600. Clinic has 1 spinner hottie dancer and 1 spinner hottie welcome girl (looked good in her outfit, but who knows what she looks like topless / naked).
- Tell mamasan if you like a particular number (eg lady # "48" at Beach GG or "21" at Peppermint) or what specific talents ("I want lady smoke no condom") and she'll bring you ladies meeting those criterias. Especially if the lady's just sitting around, you can chat up the lady to confirm that "you go ST / LT with customer, no problem?", that she does "smoke no condom, ok" before you decide to buy her a LD. It helps to break the ice with them, some small talk, smile at her and get her to smile / be comfortable with you.
- During negotiations, don't assume anything. For example: If for LT you expect her to stay until 7 am, you can tell her "you go home 7 am, ok?" and even make her repeat what you said so she can't claim ignorance later.
- For better value go to the BBs such as Drinking Street, Action Street, Sirens / PBG (Patts Beer Garden) beerbar complex, new & old Simon, etc, and BF bargirls. To avoid BFs get FLs (freelancers) from WS, the discos, Bamboo Bar (to the left of the WS entrance) , CB / BR (Coconut Bar / Beach Road) , the malls, and so on.
- I'm in Patts until 6 April and tonight (Friday night) I will hit a few GGs. If you want to meet for a drink, my cell is 091-583-2295. Good luck and happy mongering.[/QUOTE]
Amex Spg,
Now here is a answer to a question from a guy who seems to understand and have a open mind as to how to get it and how to enjoy it for the short time he is here instead of whining, complaining and criticizing others reports that they are paying too much or paying too little and ending each criticism with LOL!
You certainly get around and in one report have given more information than a few guys with hundred of reports or criticisms.
Enjoy, LBM
sabai dee body massage on soi 2 is a fantastic option if you're an aging lonely, pent up, overweight, balding guy-just looking purely for straight sex following a brief and gimmicky soapy massage. but despite the prices. 2000 baht or 2400 baht, don't expect the girlfriend treatment. these girls-particularly the more attractive ones-must process scores of guys a week. they follow a strict by-the-numbers formula, and treat all their customers the same way: nameless, faceless humanoids with male genitalia. if you're looking for eroticism, this isn't it. if you're looking for robotic, dehumanizing sex, you've come to the right place.
i visited sabai dee body massage in march. 2013. i picked girl #55 from the fishbowl. (like roulette, it's a total gamble as to what you're going to get.) i had to pre-pay 2, 400 baht for 90 minutes (word of advice: never ever pre-pay if you can avoid it. you have zero leverage otherwise.) i was led up to the room with the girl and was asked if i wanted a drink or if i wanted to buy the lady a drink. i declined. i figure she'd maybe drink a sip and simply pocket the commission.
once in the room, she ran the large bath, and instructed me (in very limited english) to undress. i did so and sat there awkwardly for several long minutes while she prepared the bath. (normally, i believe these girls offer a massage on the bed while the large bathtubs are filling up, but nothing was offered to me.) she then unceremoniously undressed and prompted me to enter the bath with her, where she washed me off. no conversation. we then moved to the air mattress, and she proceeded to give me that famous soapy body massage, which lasted 5 minutes tops (out of the 90-min session). frankly, the massage was boring, mechanical, and far from titillating. she never moaned once or pretended to enjoy it. absolutely no kissing. she then directed me to the bed, where i lay for several minutes, while she ate up the time cleaning up and rinsing the air mattress. can't she do this afterwards? what a mood killer. she eventually came to the bed, and she engaged in some foreplay. but no kissing or hugging. she stroked my cock for a few seconds and then slipped on a cheap condom. she then began a boring bj, which had all the variety and excitement of a peanut butter sandwich on white bread. it was void of any enthusiasm. she then got on up and began riding me.
after nearly a minute of this, i felt the urge to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111][CodeWord111][/url] (i had drunk a beer in the fish-tank room and realized that i wouldn't be able to finish until i emptied my bladder.) she didn't seem particularly happy with the interruption, but we were not more than 30 minutes into the 90-minute session. i got up, wrapped a towel around my waist, and used the toilet out in the hallway (there's no toilet in the room). when i returned, she claimed that she did not have any more 'big' condoms. huh? a place like this doesn't have condoms? my bullshit detector went off. she then tried to get me off with a hj. after a few minutes of my protesting, she magically produced a condom and fit it on. she then started giving me head again to get me hard. but, then, suddenly her cell phone, which was sitting on a dresser across the room, began ringing. and ringing. and ringing. i urged her to turn the phone off; she quickly got up, picked up her phone and, rather than turning it off as i had requested, she proceeded to check her messages. she the brought the cell phone over to the bed, with her eyes still glued onto the screen. i couldn't believe it.
having enough of this humiliation, i quickly got up, dressed, and charged out of the room. she didn't stop me. only 40 minutes had passed. making my way to reception, i asked to speak to the manager. some guy, who was not technically the manager, approached me. his nametag read "receptionist." i spent a solid 20 minutes recounting the disappointing experience and unprofessionalism of this girl and her pathetic service and attitude. the receptionist was virtually speechless throughout, and, in the end, essentially blamed me by saying, as to the girls,"you should have asked for my recommendation." i told him that i would likely post a negative review online of the establish, and he literally said,"i don't care." this is probably because old, lonely, horny pathetics will continue to patronize this place because, in their minds, a lay is a lay, and onsite sex is easy to conceal from the wife. but this joint is far too expensive for what you get. the service is mindless, mechanical and humiliating. if you have no standards, it's perfect. if you expect something special, avoid disappointment by steering clear of this place. they're only about the money-nothing else.
[QUOTE=Don Christiano;1404039]I called over a girl. She was happy enough to accept a lady drink. But then the rising sun "ballers" started making ping pong balls rain, then one of them ran on the dance floor and threw about 30 100 baht notes into the air as if he was starring in some cheesy rap video from Atalanta. Then they started giving full buckets of ping pong balls to individual girls, I think this is a 2000 baht value, although she will spot her mama san and the older ***** that protects her some. At this point the very young looking girl took one hard look at me, and suggested I meet her friend, whom she called over, and left.[/QUOTE]It happens regularly in Baccara, the super (girl-baby) bars, etc.
If they like so much Japanese ATMs, let's just boycott these places and spend our money in farang-friendly bars. Plenty of girls there too.
[QUOTE=El Frances; 1404590]It happens regularly in Baccara, the super (girl-baby) bars, etc.
If they like so much Japanese ATMs, let's just boycott these places and spend our money in farang-friendly bars. Plenty of girls there too.[/QUOTE]This must have been a exceptional night for D. C. Because a regular at Baccara I have only seen once a
Asian guy stand up and throw 100 baht notes. This is rare in my opinion in the 2 plus years. I do see
The 20 bahts and of course from time to time a guy runs through or hands the money to a Bac girl to do it. By the way the normal basket of ping pong full is 1, 000 baht, and I seen just as many Farangs as Asian
Throwing laundry baskets of balls, I believe the large basket is at least 5, 000 baht and have only seen 4.
Individual do it.
In my opinion, there are many fishes in the sea, you don't need to complete with the Japanese or any
Asian groups that you have typecast as big spenders. They like to come early and bar fine LT, and not
All the girls can go the distance nor do every girl that catches ping pongs are going to get bar fine by
Them. Many of the girls go wild over them because that is most likely their bread and butter?
Plus a bar like Bac farangs can boycott all you want it would barely make a dent? Since as everyone is
Noting the majority of customers are Japanese and Asians. You need to be patient and if all they want is ping pongs and a Japanese or Asian it is their lost not yours?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1404075]I believe your remark is incorrect regarding " Every bike has a 3rd party Insurance " " Even to the person riding pillion " Can you clarify your statement? If you are referring to bike owners having automatic insurance through their yearly registration of their bikes that if one is in a accident it is covered? Reference to 3rd party would mean to me that a individual has gone out and purchased this insurance from a agent? If this is the case you are dead wrong? Many Thais can't even afford to change the oil every 4 thousand Km?
LBM[/QUOTE]If you actually own a bike then you will know that in order to renew the yearly registration
You must buy liability-aka third party insurance-in order to do so.
Then you get that square sticker with the expiry date on it. The insurance thus purchased compensates.
If you have a license and are not drunk, when you cause an accident. Those you have damaged.
Did I spell it out clearly enough?
Hi,
I will be in Pattaya from July 1 to 28th,
This will be my first time, after 19 years of going for my annual get out of jail P4P in Manila,
I'm looking for any wing man who will be around those dates, to keep me out of trouble!
Also can anybody let me know the going rates for ST and LT? Also what would be a good $ amount to last for a month.
Drop me PM, if anybody want to catch up in July.
Mark
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1403499]That is why I stated that there was some kind of insurance, although it may not be the kind you are in need of. When a car did a hit and run on my cousin he had to pay 1500 baht for the bike. I never saw the shape of the bike, but he looked like he had gotten beat up with an ugly stick.[/QUOTE]Yes, you need the mandatory third part insurance in order to get the sticker that says you have paid the road tax for that year. That has no relation to whether the insurance you paid for is valid for you or not. Think for yourself. Has anybody ever asked you for your drivers license when you pay for the insurance or road tax? That's none of their business, and they can't even know you're going to be the one driving the bike.
All insurance companies will state in their policy who their insurance is valid for, and I have never heard of any insurance company in Thailand stating that a motorcycle drivers license from bumbfuck Tennesse, or Mumbai, is valid. Before they all indicated you need a Thai driving license, but now they may be accepting international licenses also, I don't know. Afaik I know, international driving permits are only valid for a limited amount of time also (e. G, up to three months or six months) , and are intended for short-time tourists who should not be burdended to spend one of their 10 vacation days getting a local drivers license.
Should you care? Up to you as they say. I care enough to get a non-mandatory extra insurance that covers me up to 10M Baht in total (if I remember correctly) and includes a bail-bond. If you drive over somebody and they die or end up in a coma for half a year, where do you want to be? Holding the short end of a stick with the 50,000 baht (or is it 100,000 now?) mandatory insurance the insurance company does not want to honour because you do not meet the terms of the policy, or with an insurance that covers you for a realistic amount?
[QUOTE=Marcos;1403824]Correct. I did go to the office in Phuket with two perfectly valid D / Ls accompanied by their respective International carnets, for the purpose of avoiding at least the driving test, as Thai regulations allows. Under various excuses they would not accept either one. I got to understand their attitude (take long time), cut my losses to the cost of immigration address certification and medical certificate, and forgot about it, for now at least.[/QUOTE]Are you sure you needed to do the actual driving tests? Perhaps you misunderstood them?
It's been a few years since I did the same you did (though not in Pattaya) , but I did not have to do the actual driving test. What I had to do was to do was only a reaction test and a test for colour blindness. Guess it all took a couple of hours including the waiting, as it was done in groups. The actual driving test (which is so silly one has to see it to believe it) I did not have to do.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;1404686]Should you care? Up to you as they say. I care enough to get a non-mandatory extra insurance that covers me up to 10M Baht in total (if I remember correctly) and includes a bail-bond. If you drive over somebody and they die or end up in a coma for half a year, where do you want to be? Holding the short end of a stick with the 50, 000 baht (or is it 100, 000 now?) mandatory insurance the insurance company does not want to honour because you do not meet the terms of the policy, or with an insurance that covers you for a realistic amount?[/QUOTE]Be reassured, in case (God Forbid) something like that happens, your 10M Bt insurance will behave same as the compulsory 100K one: no pay for Falang. Where you want to be, is the at the airport, leaving. (this not to say one should not have insurace).
[QUOTE=Marcos;1404749]Be reassured, in case (God Forbid) something like that happens, your 10M Bt insurance will behave same as the compulsory 100K one: no pay for Falang. Where you want to be, is the at the airport, leaving. (this not to say one should not have insurace).[/QUOTE]I suspect you are not talking from personal experience. Neither am I, fortunately, but I've read enough reports from fellow foreigners who were properly insured, had a Thai drivers license, and whose insurance company took care of business.
The bail-bond coverage is especially important when you're a foreigner I suspect, as presumably the police has had enough experience with people of the ilk you describe, making a run for the nearest border rather than paying up when they were in the wrong. Subsequently there's probably a higher risk of the police locking you up until trial, unless somebody, e.g your insurance company, can bail you out.
[QUOTE=Werqweq; 1404800].
The bail-bond coverage is especially important when you're a foreigner I suspect, as presumably the police has had enough experience with people of the ilk you describe, making a run for the nearest border rather than paying up when they were in the wrong. Subsequently there's probably a higher risk of the police locking you up until trial, unless somebody, e. G your insurance company, can bail you out.[/QUOTE]Look at at recent thread on thaivisa. One guy injustly accused of stealing forniture, got stuck in Thailand for 4 years. He was lucky that at the very end the case against him was dismissed. Sorry, but if anything happens to me, I will leave principles aside for my freedom. If and when Thailand will gain a better justice track record, I may review my stance on the matter.
What is the best month (or months) to visit Pattaya?
I don't want to visit in a slow month, or catch bad weather.
Thank you for the feedback guys.
[QUOTE=TokyoSky; 1404562]Sabai Dee Body Massage on Soi 2 is a fantastic option if you're an aging lonely, pent up, overweight, balding guy-just looking purely for straight sex following a brief and gimmicky soapy massage. But despite the prices. 2000 Baht or 2400 Baht, don't expect the girlfriend treatment. These girls-particularly the more attractive ones-must process scores of guys a week. They follow a strict by-the-numbers formula, and treat all their customers the same way: nameless, faceless humanoids with male genitalia. If you're looking for eroticism, this isn't it. If you're looking for robotic, dehumanizing sex, you've come to the right place.
I did a soapy in 2011. It was across second Road from Big C. I had a good looker and she was reasonably attentive. The part on the air mattress was what I disliked the most. The sex in the bed was decent enough, but for the money, I wouldn't do it again. There were only 3. 4 ladies when I was there in early afternoon. I picked the one who was smiling at me and I'm in my fifties. You may have had better service from a different lady, but why should you try again. Typical of Thai business logic. They don't seem to care about the long term. They got your money and that's what matters. They just won't ever get it again. Stupid Thai logic.
Now been Pattaya this trip just over two months. Trip coming to an end in just over a week, unfortunately. Few thoughts. Averaging about 1. 5 gals a day. It's a lot, and Little Popper is still going strong, tho bit tired.
This is actually from about three weeks ago, but wanted to report it. Had one gal from Cambodia and another from Loas. Funny is that every gal I've had from Cambodia is just cold, cold, cold as ice. Gal I had was something of an emo (is that the term?). She 19 year old, dyed hair, lip ring, pierced eye-brow, tatoos, and looked hardcore punk. Real thin, and super small butt on her. Sexy in a strange way. As I was doing her, just remember this smirk she had. When I finished she said "Wow, you lasted a long time", and then she went to the bathroom, two seconds later her clothes were on and out the door she went. Wild gal, and I know I coulda done more to her. But just so so cooooolllllldddd. I've had a few gals from Laos. One better than the other. Often spectacular. This one was in her mid-30s, and I just liked her. Got both just outside of Bamboo bar. Find a lot of gals who are going to there, or have friends there. This gal was extremely orgasmic, came twice, and after did not want to leave. Should have kept her number, but tossed it. Man, got to get to Vientiane.
Guys, do not PM me asking what go-go or bar beers to go to. Your PMs are deleted. As reported, I have not paid a bar fine since 2004. This trip went to about four go-gos, just to get a cup of coffee, day time. Have not bought any lady drinks either this trip, but gave them from 40 to 100 baht if they want to sit and talk. Never attempted a sneakout, just not interested. Went to the famous Windmill Gogo. Yea. Whatever. Went to this one place on Soi Bekow (sp?) and about five minutes after I entered six Koreans / Chinese sit right next to me. Just like clockwork, each and every one of them pulls out a cigarette and smokes. Great. Swear you people will give me, a non-smoker, cancer. To the point, which go-go / bar beer to go to? None of them! They all suck. Avoid like the plague. Trust me, Pattaya would be better off with zero bar beers and zero gogos.
Often find my gals is while eating the 40 baht 1/2 (or is it 1/4 chicken, breast and leg). It's my dinner, and I grab one or two or them. Protein. As gals walk by, just grab them."Hey, you want some food? I love you." Am often at chicken places off Walking Street, one near Secrets, another near Soi BJ. Heck, they're everywhere. Just make certain they do not put any salt / pepper on it.
Today grabbed some Storect. It's like Vit C, except natural. Uncertain if it works, but think it does. Three days ago had this gal visiting from BKK. She reminded me exactly of Becky, this gal who I was madly in love with as a freshman in college. She also socially awkward, but strangely sexy. They looked identical. Becky eventually married this graduate student, and after that divorced after she gained triple her weight. Flat butt on her, but sexy. That said, I just banged the crap out of her. Man, what I woulda done to Becky back in the day! Great time. Got her cell, but she now back in BKK. She claimed she works for some major US bank in BKK. Who knows.
Here are a few picts of gals I've had recently. The pic of the gal's tits, well they're fake. Just a great gal, but don't like silicone tits. Was afraid I'd break them. Bit lopsided too. One gal worked at a go-go, and we were just laughing about how ding-dong farangs pay 600 BF and 2500 for ST. All my gals paid 700 or 800 baht. Tonight while at the chicken place, asked one gal what she wanted, and she said 2, 500. Counter offered her 20 baht. She didn't like my counteroffer very much, so I then yelled out 30 baht as she left. Many gals demand 1000 baht. I always start with 700 and go to 800 baht. Only once did I give 1000 baht because my little brain was doing the thinking for me. She was a stunner too. However, sucked in the sack. Horrible. Am I cheap? Way I see it, only a few years ago I paid 500 baht for ST, so now am paying 200 to 300 baht more. And you people paying over 1000 for FLs aren't helping!
Two days ago had this one gal who was really black. And I do mean, black. From Thailand, surprisingly. Find that black look exotic, and often they get down to business and bang very well. Well, this one was absolutely horrible. Found her at a chicken stand, and not only bad experience, but part psychotic. Was worried she would steal something. Tossed her immediately. That said, a bad night in Pattaya is better than a great day in anywhere else.
Speaking of bad, got a rash near the base of Little Popper. About the size of my small finger nail. Cipro cleaned it up, so not a problem.
One gal approached me from I think Lithuania. White skin, and huge tits. Still don't know what to make of these gals. Anyway, she wanted 1000 for ST a 4000 for LT. Didn't even attempt to negotiate, uninterested. Figure stick with locals.
Tonight found a gal about 1:00 on Walking Street. Early 20s and works at a McDonalds. Yea, a McDonald's girl. She works for 12 hours a day at McDs, and wanted extra cash. Did something I have never done before. On this notebook PC which I am now typing we watched some porn as I was banging her. Just said to her,"Do you like porn?" Her eyes lit up. We watched three 10 minute movies, all with farang and Asians females, and one was a DP. At the end was sweating like a pig, dripping everywhere. That's the thing, when I enter my hotel room, it's cold cause of the AC, but banging I just sweat like hell. She really got into it. Thinking from herein, will always offer the gal bit of porn from my PC, so we can enjoy it together. Made me kinky, horny as hell. Great gal, and she wants me to text her tomorrow after her McWork.
OK. It's 4:am. Night.
--Popper
[QUOTE=Popper1; 1404852]Now been Pattaya this trip just over two months. Trip coming to an end in just over a week, unfortunately. Few thoughts. Averaging about 1. 5 gals a day. It's a lot, and Little Popper is still going strong, tho bit tired.
This is actually from about three weeks ago, but wanted to report it...[/QUOTE]Well siad, this is the way I also like to do, That part with showing the porn on Laptop is great, I will try on my next visit.
Well ikf act in that way you will have some top and some in the sack, ist normal, but that also makes the game what we Play so interesting. Anyway we never fail in contributing our demnds! Go ahead with it friends
[QUOTE=LiamKincaid; 1404835]What is the best month (or months) to visit Pattaya?
I don't want to visit in a slow month, or catch bad weather.
Thank you for the feedback guys.[/QUOTE]December and January.
"Fast months" and good weather
[QUOTE=Popper1; 1404852]Guys, do not PM me asking what go-go or bar beers to go to. Your PMs are deleted.
-Popper[/QUOTE]LOL. You are such a nice guy. May I be your friend, pleeeeease.
Short question: anyone was with Nikki from DD? I'm going to pay visit but would like to have a real hard-core. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1404817]Look at at recent thread on thaivisa. One guy injustly accused of stealing forniture, got stuck in Thailand for 4 years. He was lucky that at the very end the case against him was dismissed. Sorry, but if anything happens to me, I will leave principles aside for my freedom. If and when Thailand will gain a better justice track record, I may review my stance on the matter.[/QUOTE]Most countries in the world have rules that allow for easy detainment (if not actual imprisonment) of foreigners in case of criminal complaints. The fact that the case against him was dismissed in the end, tells me that it is not all that bad with justice in Thailand.
Hi,
Wondered what are the PROs and CONs for Patts over Sukhumvit area in Bangkok in your opinion. I am new here and now will spend 3 days checking BGK girls. You will find my report soon here.
But I wonder if you can shortly tell me if it is worth leaving for another 3 days to Patts?
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Tabasco72;1404960]LOL. You are such a nice guy. May I be your friend, pleeeeease.[/QUOTE]Quote it all, it's because he doesn't go to these, so he doesn't know!
Nice report, and good moves Popper!
[QUOTE=AliGeeLi; 1405015]Hi,
Wondered what are the PROs and CONs for Patts over Sukhumvit area in Bangkok in your opinion. I am new here and now will spend 3 days checking BGK girls. You will find my report soon here.
But I wonder if you can shortly tell me if it is worth leaving for another 3 days to Patts?
Cheers![/QUOTE]Sure it is! I did go twice for the weekend only, and driving a bike! Beside, Pattaya also have a beach, some sightseeing, in reality any time spent away from BKK is gained in health!
Come back from a 20 day trip tp to yangoon, BKK, Pattaya so for anyones interest I will offer my views regarding and in comparison to with each place.
Yangoon.
Hotels are over priced and for what you get terribly standards, Food wise I don't like the taste is better than laos or Cambodia but because it has a indian influence its not to my likeing. Transport wise its not that great but due to the smaller size its acceptable.
Day time activities, are limited, tried the massage and its not good and not worth the money conpared to vn.
Not many options for ST, but LT is the winner compared to vn, and beats most places except AC. Go to JJ entertainment and you can get 18-20yr old freelancers fro 50k or about 56usd. These girls are very innocent and cute, ud have to be a real ugly troll not to have these girls fight to get your attention. So go yangoon if LT is your thing.
Bangkok.
The usual places I used to stay was around sukumvit, but now as the place is being invaded by girls backpacking and couples and groups on vacations I have now decided to avoid it as the hotel have gone up in price due to all the increased demand.
I checked out nana, and whilst I agree there are alot of cuties in rainbow 4, I wasnt preparted to pay 500BF. 2000st and have the st last 30-45mins due to of the japs and other asians, tho I saw plenty of white guys take from rb4 as well.
The other bars also contained come cuties but nothing that would say exceeded the quality found in SK.
I checked out thermae, the girls ages have gone up and the quality down, the older gals asking 1000St or more I overheard a guy being quoted 2000St.
Beergarden was quite bad with the older girls wanting 1000St def not my tasstes.
I checked out Baccara in soi cowboy, and again like my comments on rb definately some cuties there but nothing that would make me pay 600bf. 2000st, like all the japs and ang moh who left with girls.
Where I spent most of my time was in SK, the biggest club had very similar girls to those found at nana and cowboy, I agree definately not in the same huge numbers but whilst I was in Bangkok I took 4 girls. 1 for LT the otehr ST, I paid between 1500-1800ST, and 2000LT. The st usually lasted 1-1. 5hrs I never felt rushed and I got kissing, DATY a decent BJ wouldn't say the best BJ and as many positions as I wanted. I never feklt rushed. So I would definatly go there again even when the largest club recently increeased it to 2000 ST.
Bangkok soapies 2000-7000 price range again for 1. 5 service not a bad option defe some cuties in the 2000, the higher priced range offers companionship supposedly they uni students part timers or otehr maketing.
Pattaya.
TYhis place is now fulled with Chinese tour gps, Russian holiday makers and generally lots of couples with kids, so this has made accodation choises limited and the cost going up, howver you can still find good guest houses.
The beer bars generally has older and uglier women and supposedly tehy are asking fro 1000+300bf, I saw none that really would make it work me paying that.
The gogo bars the girls are definately BKK standards, in the past BKK gogo bars the girls def better than patttaya but now I would say they are on par. But now the cost of girls has gone up in Pattaya 600bf and 2000St tho I got the feeling I could reduce down to 1500ST.
That being said there isn't much difference between pricing of Pattaya.
The coconut bar. Filled with oldies and ladybodys. The old ones are asking 700ST the cute ones 1000St, again none that really made me feel I should take.
The off duty gogobars found at the discos supposedly at 5-6am you can get girls for 1000LT ie 6-12noon. Again this isn't my style as I'm a bonk moning person and if I have spent the whole nite hunting I wouldn't be in the mood to bonk at that time just so I can save money.
I don't like disco, in my mind nothing is sadder than going into a disco and seeing a 40-50yr old man trying to relive his youth in a disco, regardless if he is with syt or not, call me narrow minded but its not something I think is a good look.
So in Pattaya I spent most of my time in soi 6 with gogo quality gals, sure you have to look to find them, and tehre has to be a measure of luck, but there I got unruished sessions for 700+300barfine and use of their ST rooms. The type of girls I like may not have big tits, may not speak any english, may not be tall and may not be fair, and so often they CMI in ang moh or jap orientated bars, but iof anyone has met me or seen the girls I like, they will no I'm not one to fish from the bottom of the barrell.
Pattay soapies 2000-3000 range in my view the girls same pricing as BKK but lower quality so not worth the effort.
In my time in thai, I got a GFE 90% of the time in vn its 60-70% of the time, LT are expensive in Vn St and BJ are the bargains.
Over all I like the advantages I have here in vn but trips to thai and AC are a definate must. In June ill go to sumatra and revisit indonesian gals and ill report my findings
[QUOTE=Popper1;1404852]Now been Pattaya this trip just over two months. Trip coming to an end in just over a week, unfortunately. Few thoughts. Averaging about 1. 5 gals a day. It's a lot, and Little Popper is still going strong, tho bit tired.[/QUOTE]2 months in Patts and sounds like you do mostly / only S / T and an average of even 2 S / T ladies per day leaves a lot of xtra time. I get bored in BKK after 2-3 weeks and I do only L / T (minimum 3-4 hours in my hotel) so I'm curious, how you fill all that non-sex free time in Patts?
[QUOTE=MutantChicken; 1405079]Come back from a 20 day trip tp to yangoon, BKK, Pattaya so for anyones interest I will offer my views regarding and in comparison to with each place.
Where I spent most of my time was in SK, the biggest club had very similar girls to those found at nana and cowboy, I agree definately not in the same huge numbers but whilst I was in Bangkok I took 4 girls. 1 for LT the otehr ST, I paid between 1500-1800ST, and 2000LT. The st usually lasted 1-1. 5hrs I never felt rushed and I got kissing, DATY a decent BJ wouldn't say the best BJ and as many positions as I wanted. I never feklt rushed. So I would definatly go there again even when the largest club recently increeased it to 2000 ST.[/QUOTE]Mutant Chicken, thank you for your comparisons and excellent report. What is SK in Bangkok? I'm familiar with Patpong, Soi Cowboy, and Nana. Is SK a place mainly for Thais?
[QUOTE=MutantChicken; 1405079]Come back from a 20 day trip tp to yangoon, BKK, Pattaya so for anyones interest I will offer my views regarding and in comparison to with each place.
Yangoon.
Hotels are over priced and for what you get terribly standards, Food wise I don't like the taste is better than laos or Cambodia but because it has a indian influence its not to my likeing. Transport wise its not that great but due to the smaller size its acceptable.
Day time activities, are limited, tried the massage and its not good and not worth the money conpared to vn.
Not many options for ST, but LT is the winner compared to vn, and beats most places except AC. Go to JJ entertainment and you can get 18-20yr old freelancers fro 50k or about 56usd. These girls are very innocent and cute, ud have to be a real ugly troll not to have these girls fight to get your attention. So go yangoon if LT is your thing.
Bangkok.
The usual places I used to stay was around sukumvit, but now as the place is being invaded by girls backpacking and couples and groups on vacations I have now decided to avoid it as the hotel have gone up in price due to all the increased demand.
I checked out nana, and whilst I agree there are alot of cuties in rainbow 4, I wasnt preparted to pay 500BF. 2000st and have the st last 30-45mins due to of the japs and other asians, tho I saw plenty of white guys take from rb4 as well.
The other bars also contained come cuties but nothing that would say exceeded the quality found in SK.
I checked out thermae, the girls ages have gone up and the quality down, the older gals asking 1000St or more I overheard a guy being quoted 2000St.
Beergarden was quite bad with the older girls wanting 1000St def not my tasstes.
I checked out Baccara in soi cowboy, and again like my comments on rb definately some cuties there but nothing that would make me pay 600bf. 2000st, like all the japs and ang moh who left with girls.
Where I spent most of my time was in SK, the biggest club had very similar girls to those found at nana and cowboy, I agree definately not in the same huge numbers but whilst I was in Bangkok I took 4 girls. 1 for LT the otehr ST, I paid between 1500-1800ST, and 2000LT. The st usually lasted 1-1. 5hrs I never felt rushed and I got kissing, DATY a decent BJ wouldn't say the best BJ and as many positions as I wanted. I never feklt rushed. So I would definatly go there again even when the largest club recently increeased it to 2000 ST.
Bangkok soapies 2000-7000 price range again for 1. 5 service not a bad option defe some cuties in the 2000, the higher priced range offers companionship supposedly they uni students part timers or otehr maketing.
Pattaya.
TYhis place is now fulled with Chinese tour gps, Russian holiday makers and generally lots of couples with kids, so this has made accodation choises limited and the cost going up, howver you can still find good guest houses.
The beer bars generally has older and uglier women and supposedly tehy are asking fro 1000+300bf, I saw none that really would make it work me paying that.
The gogo bars the girls are definately BKK standards, in the past BKK gogo bars the girls def better than patttaya but now I would say they are on par. But now the cost of girls has gone up in Pattaya 600bf and 2000St tho I got the feeling I could reduce down to 1500ST.
That being said there isn't much difference between pricing of Pattaya.
The coconut bar. Filled with oldies and ladybodys. The old ones are asking 700ST the cute ones 1000St, again none that really made me feel I should take.
The off duty gogobars found at the discos supposedly at 5-6am you can get girls for 1000LT ie 6-12noon. Again this isn't my style as I'm a bonk moning person and if I have spent the whole nite hunting I wouldn't be in the mood to bonk at that time just so I can save money.
I don't like disco, in my mind nothing is sadder than going into a disco and seeing a 40-50yr old man trying to relive his youth in a disco, regardless if he is with syt or not, call me narrow minded but its not something I think is a good look.
So in Pattaya I spent most of my time in soi 6 with gogo quality gals, sure you have to look to find them, and tehre has to be a measure of luck, but there I got unruished sessions for 700+300barfine and use of their ST rooms. The type of girls I like may not have big tits, may not speak any english, may not be tall and may not be fair, and so often they CMI in ang moh or jap orientated bars, but iof anyone has met me or seen the girls I like, they will no I'm not one to fish from the bottom of the barrell.
Pattay soapies 2000-3000 range in my view the girls same pricing as BKK but lower quality so not worth the effort.
In my time in thai, I got a GFE 90% of the time in vn its 60-70% of the time, LT are expensive in Vn St and BJ are the bargains.
Over all I like the advantages I have here in vn but trips to thai and AC are a definate must. In June ill go to sumatra and revisit indonesian gals and ill report my findings[/QUOTE]Excellent Report, exactly the kind of information I am looking for. I will be in BKK and Pattaya for the first time in June and this is the kind of information that is needed on here. Question where is the best place to exchange my money in BKK and Pattaya and what is the best way to get from the airport to my hotel in Nana at 1:am.
Thanks.,
Chris
[QUOTE=Phoenix949; 1404950]Well siad, this is the way I also like to do, That part with showing the porn on Laptop is great, I will try on my next visit.
Well ikf act in that way you will have some top and some in the sack, Ist normal, but that also makes the game what we Play so interesting. Anyway we never fail in contributing our demnds! Go ahead with it friends[/QUOTE]I also keep some porn on my laptop. The first time I tried it I was in the shower and she was in the second room (a suite). When I came back she was masturbating like crazy and went nuts, threw me down on the couch, DFK like crazy, shoved my head down for some serious DATY, almost couldn't hold her down to keep at it, she flips around to some BBBJ and then "I want, I want' I want", to some RCG where she could still watch the porn. WOW what a round!
Other times it hasn't worked so well, but I usually offer,"do you mind or want to want watch a sexy movie?" I think it works more often than not. I also take along the cables and adapters that will make my laptop play through the TV. Works MUCH better than playing on a small screen!
SK = Saphan Kwai, not much info about it but I will try it in my next trip in 3 weeks.
SK = Saphan Kwai
I got up about 7 am. Walked up and down the beach a couple of times. Nothing going on. Cruised the beach again and met Linda. 23, BBBJ, great service and great attitude. 500 baht. So worth it! Rested most of the day. Later I went out and met the, another spinner. I don't hate! The is 29, BBBJ, once again. Great smile, service. Notice a trend? Oh yeah and the part where she told me I made honey while sporting a smile from ear to ear. So worth $15 USD. Lest we for get when I finished she said I had "big power!" Down Boy! Thailand rocks! Earlier I checked tickets to Jakarta. From here is $600. Ouch. In Bangkok I was quoted $300. Had foot message. 180 baht. Rest again. Then head out to the clubs. Went to lucifers first. So-so. Then I went to a techno club. I forget the name. Don't know how I did it, but I got flipped off (middle finger) three times by two different girls. Haha! Yes, be-bopping and drinking my beer? Headed home about 6am. Maam. 31, another spinner was on my arm. Didn't know how that happened, but oh well. 700 baht to the good, and off she went. It's 10:30 Monday morning. Later!
[QUOTE=Chris Long;1405205]Question where is the best place to exchange my money in BKK and Pattaya and what is the best way to get from the airport to my hotel in Nana at 1:am.[/QUOTE]The Superrich money exchanges are said to give the best rates, but personally I think the difference is so small I cannot bother to go out and search for them.
Around 1AM your only viable option will be a metered taxi from the airport to the city. If I remember well the airport rail link service stops around midnight.
[QUOTE=Radamanthys;1405235]SK = Saphan Kwai[/QUOTE]Is this safe to go there and monger if you are single farang?
Spot on.
At one time I was so enamored with this place I took my nephew and son as a treat.
During one visit, after the manager told me no BBBJ, I asked to talk to one of the gals. Odd experience, she spoke almost Vassar English, when I asked her where she learned to speak English so well she immediately got up and left, as if I had insulted her. No BBBJ from her. The manager then told me of an "older" gal, who turned out to be in her 30's, that I should talk to. She agreed to do the deed as I requested. Turned out she was built like a goddess, and gave fantastic service. Was so taken by her I got her number and tried to hook up, never worked out.
Anyway, have been back there a few times and each was, as expressed here, a by-the-numbers cold (very cold) routine.
The Attitude has really changed there, it is like they are now too big to care. Don't waste your money.
[QUOTE=TokyoSky; 1404562]Sabai Dee Body Massage on Soi 2 is a fantastic option if you're an aging lonely, pent up, overweight, balding guy-just looking purely for straight sex following a brief and gimmicky soapy massage. But despite the prices. 2000 Baht or 2400 Baht, don't expect the girlfriend treatment. These girls-particularly the more attractive ones-must process scores of guys a week. They follow a strict by-the-numbers formula, and treat all their customers the same way: nameless, faceless humanoids with male genitalia. If you're looking for eroticism, this isn't it. If you're looking for robotic, dehumanizing sex, you've come to the right place.
i[QUOTE=Tabasco72;1405452]Is this safe to go there and monger if you are single farang?[/QUOTE]Yes. Just don't act like a drunken fool or soccer hooligan and you should be fine. To be frank, its not an ideal for mongering for a non-thai speaking farang, but its definitely worth a visit at least once.
I was in Bangkok in March. Landed at 11:55pm. I was out of immigration and customs and at my hotel (Dawin) by 1:00am. Took a taxi and with highway and tolls and tip cost me 400 baht. Still a lot of action going on at that time of the night.
Had a foot message for 180 baht ($6).5:30pm I walked the beach and met the. 29, BBBJ, big smile, good service. 500 baht. The best part was during our time together she smiled and said I made honey and giggled. And when I finished. She said I had big power! Those two comments were worth the $15. Later that night went to club Lucifers and had a beer at 170 baht. Then about 1am we went to the Marine club (techno music). Had a few beers there at I think 120 baht each. Don't know how I did it, but I got flipped off three times by two different girls. Drinking, be-bopping and pow. Hate crime, hehe. Got to love it. Left about 6am. Looked down and Maam. 30, was on my arm. Ok. She asked. Go with you? I said 500 baht. She said 1000. I said 600. She said 700. Ok, deal. So so performance, wanted me to take her out and feed her after we finished (nope). She tried to use my laptop and go online but the internet was down at that moment. It was about 9am or so when I let her out and went to sleep.
Up at 3pm. Exchanged some money at 29. 15 to 1 USD. Picked up laundry from a few days of at 105 baht. Had lunch at the mall. 90 baht. Picked up a Thai book for beginners for 300 baht. Walked the beach and met Pay Pay. 30, BBBJ. 500 baht. So-so service. Just got in from oil message. 250 baht with 30 baht tip. Getting ready to walk the beach.
Walked the beach from soi 7 to about soi 12 or 13 at 10:30pm. Pricing the girls along the way. If they were young and more attractive they would say 1000 baht for short time. I would counter with 500 baht. Of course most declined and I would say nice to meet you and walk. I ran across one girl that said 1500 and another that said 2000. And yes, these were short time prices. I eventually ran across Aom. 22, big smile and even bigger tits. When I asked how much? She asked "how much you give me?" I said 500 baht. She talked to her two girl friends for a few minutes and said ok. Off we went. She couldn't stop smiling, she had lots of energy and she was very playful. Yep, she wore me out.
This is my third trip to Thailand. And I have noticed on all three trips that it is not uncommon not see the girls I pay 500 baht for the next couple of days. I have also notice girls on the beach that will take 500 baht for short time in the clubs. When I price them in the clubs, the answer is 1000, 1500 or 2000 baht. Hhhmmmm. I counter with 500. If the girls say no to photos I tell them I understand and I walk away. I try to instill on the girls that some guys have price limits and service requirements. And that some guys are willing to walk away from them.
[QUOTE=Horndog 3;1405637]I was in Bangkok in March. Landed at 11:55pm. I was out of immigration and customs and at my hotel (Dawin) by 1:00am. Took a taxi and with highway and tolls and tip cost me 400 baht. Still a lot of action going on at that time of the night.[/QUOTE]Did you do the BKK-Pattaya-Nana route? If not, why posting it here?
Sorry guys! I posted some of my Pattaya reports in the Bangkok forum. So my last couple of reports are from the last couple of days. Sorry for the mix up! I will pay more attention.
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1405667]Sorry guys! I posted some of my Pattaya reports in the Bangkok forum.[/QUOTE]You are not alone (to make mistakes)
[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1405205]Question where is the best place to exchange my money in BKK and Pattaya and what is the best way to get from the airport to my hotel in Nana at 1:am.
Thanks,
Chris[/QUOTE]Hi Chris,
I too had the question about exchange but no worries. There are almost as many exchange places as there are women in Patts. Joke. But there are alot of them. I used the place near the McDonalds on Beach road mostly. Prices are pretty much the same every as far is I could see. Unless you are exchanging some insane amount you won't feel the difference.
About transport I used a service that I prearranged. I booked through Pattayataxi. Info. Some dude called Mr KeaK or Mr. Virach songklam answered me. To Pattaya it cost 1000 bath and it took about 1 hour from airport. I see they also have trips to Bangkok but do not know the price. The service was punctual and I can't fault it in any way.
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo; 1405665]Walked the beach from soi 7 to about soi 12 or 13 at 10:30pm. Pricing the girls along the way. If they were young and more attractive they would say 1000 baht for short time. I would counter with 500 baht. Of course most declined and I would say nice to meet you and walk. I ran across one girl that said 1500 and another that said 2000. And yes, these were short time prices. I eventually ran across Aom. 22, big smile and even bigger tits. When I asked how much? She asked "how much you give me?" I said 500 baht. She talked to her two girl friends for a few minutes and said ok. Off we went. She couldn't stop smiling, she had lots of energy and she was very playful. Yep, she wore me out.
This is my third trip to Thailand. And I have noticed on all three trips that it is not uncommon not see the girls I pay 500 baht for the next couple of days. I have also notice girls on the beach that will take 500 baht for short time in the clubs. When I price them in the clubs, the answer is 1000, 1500 or 2000 baht. Hhhmmmm. I counter with 500. If the girls say no to photos I tell them I understand and I walk away. I try to instill on the girls that some guys have price limits and service requirements. And that some guys are willing to walk away from them.[/QUOTE]Great reports keep them comming this is what we need, location price and service reports.
Chris
Pattaya still is the best "sin city" in the world?
I'm a little worried because seems that this last two years I find less and less updates about Pattaya, plus the Police stuff.
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1405660]Up at 3pm. Exchanged some money at 29. 15 to 1 USD. Picked up laundry from a few days of at 105 baht. Had lunch at the mall. 90 baht. Picked up a Thai book for beginners for 300 baht. Walked the beach and met Pay Pay. 30, BBBJ. 500 baht. So-so service. Just got in from oil message. 250 baht with 30 baht tip. Getting ready to walk the beach.[/QUOTE]Why you keep giving us a bolow by blow account of what your doing every hour man? Who cares about your lunch and how much you paid for it? Or about your foot massage or what time you went to bed? Get on with it or don't post this trivia
Found a 28 year old about 8 am today. It's nice to find girls at all hours of the day. She was pretty enough but service was below average. Haha, maybe too early in the morning for her. Had to up the cost to 600 baht to get photos. Today was a little different in that there were several marching bands parading down beach street. Yes, it was all blocked off. And yes, traffic was horrible. I think the bands were from elementary schools. The 12th I think is the Thai holiday Songkran. For those of you that don't know. It's tradition to get everybody wet. They will use buckets, hoses and squirt guns. And it doesn't matter if you are dry and dressed up. I have never been here for it. But my buddy has and he said it sucks. Headed back up the beach around 7:30pm. I wanted to get there a little earlier and see if I could run into something more attractive. I met Lin. 29, 45 kilos, great attitude and no rush. 500 baht. And she was so much fun I kicked in another 100 baht. I know, I'm breaking down conditions. I walked her back to were I met her and went for dinner. On the way back to my hotel I priced two girls. Both agreed to 500 baht for short time. Lots of girls on the beach and I'm happy that some will go for 500 baht (short time). I hope my reports help you guys new to Thailand and new to the monger life style. And for those of you who have nothing positive to say (and you know who you are). GO KICK ROCKS! I have read these reports of countless others and found a lot of helpful information. And I thank those of you who took the time to share. And I have read the "hate" messages too. To those people I say GET OVER YOURSELF and let the forum do it's thing. And that is to give insight to those who take the time to read them.
[QUOTE=LiamKincaid; 1405839]Pattaya still is the best "sin city" in the world?
I'm a little worried because seems that this last two years I find less and less updates about Pattaya, plus the Police stuff.[/QUOTE]What kind of update are you looking for? Nothing has changed. Women are fucking and guys are paying them. Go see for yourself.
[QUOTE=How14;1405911]Why you keep giving us a bolow by blow account of what your doing every hour man? Who cares about your lunch and how much you paid for it? Or about your foot massage or what time you went to bed? Get on with it or don't post this trivia[/QUOTE]Accounts of his day. He is contributing knowledge and information about life in Pattaya. Which is rather more than the snide comments from those who.
Make no effort to share their experiences.
When this thread gets clogged up with an excess of trivia may be the time to question the thread's content.
But as long as many just post one line comments rather than adding information I will support anyone who shares his experiences.
[QUOTE=BambiJacobson; 1405741]Hi Chris,
I too had the question about exchange but no worries. There are almost as many exchange places as there are women in Patts. Joke. But there are alot of them. I used the place near the McDonalds on Beach road mostly. Prices are pretty much the same every as far is I could see. Unless you are exchanging some insane amount you won't feel the difference.
About transport I used a service that I prearranged. I booked through Pattayataxi. Info. Some dude called Mr KeaK or Mr. Virach songklam answered me. To Pattaya it cost 1000 bath and it took about 1 hour from airport. I see they also have trips to Bangkok but do not know the price. The service was punctual and I can't fault it in any way.[/QUOTE]Bambi / Chris,
I use Superrich many location in BKK I exchange USD but they don't take Amex, I also get good rate at CIMB in Pattaya and Bangkok money charger all over town.
[url]http://www.superrich1965.com/location.php[/url]
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=AliGeeLi; 1405015]Hi,
Wondered what are the PROs and CONs for Patts over Sukhumvit area in Bangkok in your opinion. I am new here and now will spend 3 days checking BGK girls. You will find my report soon here.
But I wonder if you can shortly tell me if it is worth leaving for another 3 days to Patts?
Cheers![/QUOTE]I spend 80% of my time in BKK now. Pats is 2 to 3 days max. It is still OK, but
like others have said. Pats now way too many tour groups, buses, crowds, etc.
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1405665]Walked the beach from soi 7 to about soi 12 or 13 at 10:30pm. Pricing the girls along the way. If they were young and more attractive they would say 1000 baht for short time. I would counter with 500 baht. Of course most declined and I would say nice to meet you and walk. I ran across one girl that said 1500 and another that said 2000. And yes, these were short time prices. I eventually ran across Aom. 22, big smile and even bigger tits. When I asked how much? She asked "how much you give me?" I said 500 baht. She talked to her two girl friends for a few minutes and said ok. Off we went. She couldn't stop smiling, she had lots of energy and she was very playful. Yep, she wore me out.
This is my third trip to Thailand. And I have noticed on all three trips that it is not uncommon not see the girls I pay 500 baht for the next couple of days. I have also notice girls on the beach that will take 500 baht for short time in the clubs. When I price them in the clubs, the answer is 1000, 1500 or 2000 baht. Hhhmmmm. I counter with 500. If the girls say no to photos I tell them I understand and I walk away. I try to instill on the girls that some guys have price limits and service requirements. And that some guys are willing to walk away from them.[/QUOTE]
If we ALL act this way then prices will be under control.
Spaceman
[QUOTE=AlLostInSpace13; 1406241]If we ALL act this way then prices will be under control.
Spaceman[/QUOTE]If we get the dick under control, we will get the prices under control, LOL.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1405139]2 months in Patts and sounds like you do mostly / only S / T and an average of even 2 S / T ladies per day leaves a lot of xtra time. I get bored in BKK after 2-3 weeks and I do only L / T (minimum 3-4 hours in my hotel) so I'm curious, how you fill all that non-sex free time in Patts?[/QUOTE]How to fill your none sex free time? Why does everything have to revolve around sex? Plenty to do in Pattaya, and not just drinking and shagging, whys the emphasis on sex? How about going to the gym, having the odd sauna, few massages a week, do a few birds a week, up to you, all sorts to do here, its pathetic when people go on about boredom here, go back home to wherever you come from and see what boring is.
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1406120]Accounts of his day. He is contributing knowledge and information about life in Pattaya. Which is rather more than the snide comments from those who.
Make no effort to share their experiences.
When this thread gets clogged up with an excess of trivia may be the time to question the thread's content.
But as long as many just post one line comments rather than adding information I will support anyone who shares his experiences.[/QUOTE]Sorry but can't agree with that, whos interested in his 180 bht lunch especially as hes not writing where he bought the lunch? Waste of time, its a sex forum yeah? Not a restaurant menu, just a waste of time trawling through all the trivia.
few thoughts. been here now about two months. near always pay 700 to 800 baht st, and twice paid 1000 st. never more. never once paid bf. never once lady drink. here's how i do it. approach, and after hooked.
popper: "i love you. you go with me?"
gal: "how much you give me?"
popper: "how much you want?" (always let her say first how much she wants, rather than make offer)
gal: "1000"
popper "i love you 700 baht."
bla bla bla, give lots of 'i love you', 'will you marry me', smile a lot, etc. if needed go 800 baht. usually they go for it. not always but usually. you need learn how to play them, rather than be played. i have gotten gals generally around south pattaya, since my hotel is there, and off walking street. lots of chicken stands around, soi bj, in front of the ws entrance, mixx. 7/11s, etc. however, it works throughout pattaya. you need be bit discrete, and if a gal walks away, no worries and find another. i only go for what i refer to as "moving busses". this is a gal who is going from point a to point b. never a "standing bus" which is a gal just standing there waiting for customers.
usual price for the soi 6 / massage / bliss / golden / whatever is figure 1000. 1200 baht if they provide the room.
it's official, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] is closed. reported on this forum before. i went there about two weeks ago, and yes, gone. asked a gal at the bar next to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] who told me they will move to near xzyte on 3rd road sometime april. well, if this information is correct, then i'm a genius. if not, then those bar girls are just so dumb. oh yea, and i banger her, and she gave a nice bbbj, swallowed. head to the bar next to where [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] is, urrrrrr was. actually that entire area i suspect all bars have st rooms.
yesterday went to jontiem to get the seven day extension. arrived about 11:30 and they gave me a number and told me to return at 2:00. ok. did a breakfast of four eggs and coffee and did a massage. cute gal, but she did bit of damage to little popper in that she somehow jerked too hard and caused a small break in the skin on top of the shaft. didn't realize it until later. so, little popper bit damaged. since, put vaseline and bit of steroid cream, and it's healing. slowly. bad timing, since i need little popper on a regular basis before i leave. everyone reading this need pray for the healing of little popper.
cost for the 7-day extension was 1900 baht and they finally called my number by 2:40. there was this russian gal standing there who was frigging gorgeous. i mean, where do these girls come (cum) from anyway? the russian guys too look in just great shape. wondering if the secret to their beauty is the russian vodka.
chinese have these tours wandering around pattaya. annoying people. bunch of lemmings as they trampse around following a colored flag. is this what they do for fun? pathetic.
today tried to get to telephone bar. went to their fb page and used their map. well, their map sucks. completely off scale, and not properly labeled. will try again soon (i think).
just tossed a bunch of gals phone numbers off my cell. only three or four left. may toss those. time to just start fresh. more fun to get new, different gal or two each day.
last night went to bamboo bar. it's not a bar beer, but rather this bar with a band. lots of the gals i find are either coming to or leaving that bar. walk in and this gal takes this wand which used for airport security and w / out any warning begins to wand me. was totally shocked. so, to enter a bar now, you have to be tsa'ed? wondering if soon they'll have those backrep001ter machines. buck that! just backed away, and will not go there. last time i entered insomnia the guy frisked me, and practically grabbed my balls. just a warning.
last night found gal outside of mixx. she 34 and not bad looking. not great looking. these gals do not like their pictures taken. all paranoid. can't blame them. she works massage and claimed to have left pattaya for two months. looked like a massage gal too, with huge tits. tits, ummmmmm. we agreed to 800 baht. in the room she complained i took too long, etc. was just as glad she left. personally just go for variety. sometimes younger gal who's 19 and looks like she works at a gogo. other times the gal who is more experienced at 40 who can give me a real ride. all fun.
ok. time to eat, hunt.
--popper
Up early again, about 8am. Walked the beach about 8:30am and met Noon. 28, between soi 9 and soi 10. I really enjoy it early and when the girls are fresh. GFE, no rush, went over a few Thai words and phrases (I think the girls dig it when you put just a little effort into learning anything in their language) , everything I wanted, photos too. 500 baht. Checked out a local tour guide. $320 (us) to tandem sky dive. Ouch! My last tandem jump was $150 (us). That was about ten years ago. If you want videos and or still pictures. You guessed it $$$. Scuba diving was more expensive here than I paid in the Dominican Republic. Didn't go for either, just wanted to check it out and pass it on. Booked a one way flight to Phenom Pehn, Cambodia for next week. 2860 baht. My buddy and I went with the one way deal because we are thinking of going to Jakarta, Indonesia. Indonesia will be a first for the both of us. Getting ready to head to walking street.
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1406445]Up early again, about 8am. Walked the beach about 8:30am and met Noon. 28, between soi 9 and soi 10. I really enjoy it early and when the girls are fresh. GFE, no rush, went over a few Thai words and phrases (I think the girls dig it when you put just a little effort into learning anything in their language) , everything I wanted, photos too. 500 baht. Checked out a local tour guide. $320 (us) to tandem sky dive. Ouch! My last tandem jump was $150 (us). That was about ten years ago. If you want videos and or still pictures. You guessed it $$$. Scuba diving was more expensive here than I paid in the Dominican Republic. Didn't go for either, just wanted to check it out and pass it on. Booked a one way flight to Phenom Pehn, Cambodia for next week. 2860 baht. My buddy and I went with the one way deal because we are thinking of going to Jakarta, Indonesia. Indonesia will be a first for the both of us. Getting ready to head to walking street.[/QUOTE]Given the hours that Pattaya tends to keep, do you think she was there early or late?
[QUOTE=How14;1406321]Sorry but can't agree with that, whos interested in his 180 bht lunch especially as hes not writing where he bought the lunch? Waste of time, its a sex forum yeah? Not a restaurant menu, just a waste of time trawling through all the trivia.[/QUOTE]But in order of importance:
1. Don't read stuff that does not interest you. And let others who enjoy, vicariously, read blow by blow accounts of a tourist's day in LOS.
2. If you don't read stuff that does not interest you, you won't need to comment.
[QUOTE=How14;1405911]Why you keep giving us a bolow by blow account of what your doing every hour man? Who cares about your lunch and how much you paid for it? Or about your foot massage or what time you went to bed? Get on with it or don't post this trivia[/QUOTE]Might look trivia to Trivia to you but describes a day (or more) of a mongerer life in Pattaya.
I reckon that a newbie will find a lot of answers to his questions but reading those reports. Without being tedious. He just stick to the facts and does not go I to gyno details as some do on how much wet the girl was or about the PH of her pussy.
I hear you RBDave. Pattaya is 24/7. And that is one of many things I like about Pattaya. When I paid Noon she did the "Y" and said thank you. I asked if I was the first and she said yes. It reminded me of paying the girls in Tijuana, Mexico. If you are their first client the girls will do the Catholic cross. This is to give thanks for the income. So when I saw the "Y". I wasn't even think, it reminded me of the Tijuana girls. If Noon was there all night and looked as fresh as she did and had that kind of energy and enthusiasm. She has the "power"!
As a newbie I remember reading these forums, page after page. On and on and on. I got a lot of info out of them. I would compare and calculate, air line tickets, hotels, taxi fare, girls, bar fine, food cost, club entry costs, beer costs. I also learned about scams, pitfalls and other do's and don'ts. I am not wealthy and I am not retired. So I had to make good use of my means. You know. Doing more with less. I have been called a cheap Charlie before and I have no problem with that. I would like to give more to the girls. But I am always on a budget. This is how I can afford these kind of trips once or twice a year. I have only been traveling for the last six years or so as a monger. And I understand there are some seasoned mongers that don't need or may not even care about reading every post on this site. I will admit I am new to this forum thing. And since it has helped me over the last few years, I feel it is time for me to contribute. So to all who read my reports I say this. Feel free to ask me questions. If I miss your question on in the forum. Private message me. I'm here to help those who are looking for it. And once again I want to thank those who contribute. And I also want to take the time to thank those for siding with me.
[QUOTE=How14;1406317]How to fill your none sex free time? Why does everything have to revolve around sex? Plenty to do in Pattaya, and not just drinking and shagging, whys the emphasis on sex?[/QUOTE]Because its a sex forum, thats why.
went to walking street disco. no cover charge. i liked the music (reggaeton, hip hop). stuff i can dance to anyway. tiger beer was 95 baht if i remember correctly. the strobe and search lights they had were hard on me. my eyes are sensitive to bright lights. that and i am a delicate flower. after a few beers went to lucifers. no cover, tiger was 125 baht or so. sorry guys. i wasn't doing a good job of keeping track of the beer costs last night. then i went to the marine disco. as usual. no cover. had chang beer there. no tiger. the other night i had seen a waitress order a change for me there and she put one hand to her head with the thumb against her temple and did the four finger flip sign. i think this represents an elephant ear. so last night about three feet back from the bar one of the bartenders looked at me. i gave her the "elephant ear" hand signal and see handed me a change. i thought that was cool. so i've picked up some thai phrases and even a thai hand signal.
i know this is a different matter, but in the philippines the bartenders use the fist pull down hand signal. similar to united states cavalry troops use to signal speed up. do this signal in the sky tracks club in angles city, pi they will hand you a red horse. a strong tasty malted beer. my favorite in the world so far. i know i side tracked. bottom line guys. learn a word or phrase of the country you are in and try it. the locals will appreciate it.
while at the marine disco i met bee. 26, (45 kilos) non stop smiling. she wasn't much of a drinker. she stuck to coke cola. we danced a few times. i used what little thai i knew. she too seemed happy i was giving some effort in speaking her language. oh yeah, noon had told me something that can only help us foreigners. to tell a girl she is pretty you say "swaay!" it is very important to drag out the "aa" sound. if you cut it short as in "sway". this means "accident". so, if you tell a girl sway (short "a" sound) she will not be happy you are telling her "accident". but if you tell a girl "swaay!" or "swaay meck meck!" she will smile. i have only been in thailand this trip since the 28th of march and i've been with 15 girls. and every one of them smiled very big when i tell them "swaay!" so i told bee i was leaving and thanks for the dancing. she asked if i wanted her to come with me. you got to love this country! i said sure. i didn't mention a price and neither did she. normally i do, but i wanted to see where this would go. we fooled around when we got to my room. about 4am (ouch!). woke up at 12 noon and fooled around again. she showered then i showered. she said i go now, i have to work tonight at a bar on drinking street. i think that is where she said. i said ok. and i walked her out. i was expecting to hear "you give 1000 baht" or more. nope, didn't happen. that's the third free-bee (pun intended) i've had in thailand in three trips. how's that for an answer to "how far do we go in the barrel?". bottom out. free! i should mention that when bee and i were heading out, my buddy and his girl hit me up in the hallway and want to go have lunch. this distraction might have aided in the freebie. any questions. just ask =)
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1406788]so I told Bee I was leaving and thanks for the dancing. She asked if I wanted her to come with me. You got to love this country! I said sure. I didn't mention a price and neither did she. Normally I do, but I wanted to see where this would go. We fooled around when we got to my room. About 4am (ouch!). Woke up at 12 noon and fooled around again. She showered then I showered. She said I go now, I have to work tonight at a bar on Drinking Street. I think that is where she said. I said ok. And I walked her out. I was expecting to hear "you give 1000 baht" or more. Nope, didn't happen. That's the third free-Bee (pun intended) I've had in Thailand in Three trips. How's that for an answer to "how far do we go in the barrel?". Bottom out. Free! I should mention that when Bee and I were heading out, my buddy and his girl hit me up in the hallway and want to go have lunch. This distraction might have aided in the freebie. Any questions. Just ask =)[/QUOTE]Obviously it's your money and your prerogative, but I'd suggest handing her the LT B 1, 000 and see if the lady declines it. If she declines it, then it's truly a freebie. My guess is she will gladly accept it.
Believe it or not,
- some ladies forget to ask for the money, especially if they're hungover / exhausted / have to get to work soon / whatever.
- some ladies are too shy / timid to ask for the money (Sen, a CB lady I've been with 3 STs, told me when she started out in P4P she went from CB with a customer to do a ST, after the sex he asked her to leave and he didn't pay anything for the ST, she was too nervous to ask and just left.
- whatever other reason (maybe she think you've already slipped the money in to her purse, which is what some customers do).
- If she works at Drinking Street (BB complex on Second Road just north of Soi 1) then I suspect she would love to have received B 1k for the lovely time she spent with you.
If she accepts it when she didn't expect payment, she'll be ecstatic. Yes, instead of a freebie you gave up B 1k, but it's US $34 which is not much to a Yank like us (you're American, right?) but a lot to a TG especially if she's a single mom, supporting her sibling in school, whatever.
I have never gotten a freebie in Pattaya, and I never will because 1) no lady wants to give me a freebie and 2) I wouldn't accept a freebie from a FL, I would just tell her the B 1k or whatever is "taxi money, or go buy food"
Obvious there's exceptions such as if the girl is hiso (high society) where B 1k is nothing to her and she's insulted you offered.
Just my 2 baht. On a positive note I like your style of posting. My TRs are very similar. Happy mongering. (Last bit: I'm in Patts until Sat / 6 Apr, and if you want to meet up I'll buy you a beer / drink, contact me at 091-583-2295).
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1406788]SNIPPED >>>> Any questions. Just ask =)[/QUOTE]No questions. Just a short bloody comment. YOU should of slipped her a 1k bt note.
To further your Thail learning I will offer this on the language according to my Thai friends. Suay (pronounced like Sue why in english) means bueatiful. If you say muck it means very. Saying something twice emphasizes it. So muck muck would be very very. Suay muck muck is very very bueatiful.
Sound like you are enjoying yourself.
Mai pen rai.
[QUOTE=Amex Spg;1406816]Happy mongering. (Last bit: I'm in Patts until Sat / 6 Apr, and if you want to meet up I'll buy you a beer / drink, contact me at 091-583-2295).[/QUOTE]Just arrived and would love to meet up for a beer. Unfortunately just found out that my old mobile is locked for the thai sim card I bought. Can we meet entrance of walking street at some time?
Something else. How much do you have to expect for real LT, like untik 9th. Never had such a long company but would like to try the experience if I find the right one.
[QUOTE=Mackin; 1406843]To further your Thail learning I will offer this on the language according to my Thai friends. Suay (pronounced like Sue why in english) means bueatiful. If you say muck it means very. Saying something twice emphasizes it. So muck muck would be very very. Suay muck muck is very very bueatiful.
Sound like you are enjoying yourself.
Mai pen rai.[/QUOTE]Add khun at the beginning to form a proper sentence as follows: khun suay maak, which would be translated as you look so beautiful; and khun suay maak maak would be translated as you look so very beautiful. This is what a language instructor who was a native Thai speaker taught in a course I took.
[QUOTE=Mackin; 1406843]To further your Thail learning I will offer this on the language according to my Thai friends. Suay (pronounced like Sue why in english) means bueatiful. If you say muck it means very. Saying something twice emphasizes it. So muck muck would be very very. Suay muck muck is very very bueatiful.
Sound like you are enjoying yourself.
Mai pen rai.[/QUOTE]Most Thai men would not say khun suay maak to a young lady. This comes across as being disingenuous. Khun suay maak would be reserved for a woman who is truly beautiful, or someone like a model or film star. Khun naa-rak maak which translates as you are so cute would be better to use with the ladies most men are likely to meet.
Also khun yaak duem a-rai mai which translates as do you want a drink? Is useful.
Some more useful phrases are:
Sa-what-dii khrap is the masculine form of Hello. In this phrase there should be no h in the what. See what happens when I type the name of that place in Cambodia: Angor what. The spelling checker insists on adding the h. The forum's spelling checker program is rather stupid, or rather the person who designed it is.
Sa-baay-dii mai means how are you? Mai is the question word. Added to the end it turns a statement into a question.
Sa-baay-dii means I am fine.
Phom chue Paul Kausch means my name is Paul Kausch.
Khun chue a-rai means what is your name?
Yin-dii thii dai ruu-jak means nice to meet you.
Khawp-khun means thank you.
These few phrases will serve you well.
Found a place to develop photos on 2nd street and soi 7 (central color lab).5 baht each. I asked about a discount. She said after 100 photos. 4 baht each. I had 100 photos of this trip developed for 400 baht. I also had three days of laundry done around the corner of my hotel. 85 baht. Went down to the end of the beach by baht bus and walked towards soi 7. I met a younger girl. 19 or 20, she said 1000 baht for short time. I offered 500. Of course she declined. Walked a little more and met another under 24 year old and she asked 700 baht. I declined. Yeah, they were attractive, but I didn't feel any chemistry. I even talked to one that was checking me out. But when I approached her and her girlfriend. They just ignored me. That was a first. I couldn't help but laugh, say good by and walk away. Walked a little more and met Joy. 38. I know. Hag shagger! She was friendly (imagine that) , full of smiles, curvy, and she agreed to everything I wanted for 600 baht. I know, breaking down conditions (yes, I'm kidding) and she offered a ride on her scooter. Service was not bad. She gave a lot of effort. After fooling around, I asked her a couple of Thai phrases and her face lit up. She seemed to enjoy teaching me. This has been a common response here. When it was time to leave, I headed to the door, she jumped on me and wrapped her legs around me and gave me a big hug and a kiss. A lot of these girls leave me their phone numbers by the way. I'm a hit it and quit it kinda guy. So I don't plan on calling any of them to repeat. I like to have a high body count on my trips. But you never know.
As for not offering to pay my "freebie". I probably should have at least offered.
Totally agree.
One of the advantages of this board is that we have the ability to act in a concerted manner. When they hear enough polite no's, and then get a little hungry for money, the attitude does change.
I have gone back to a place, very late in the evening, and seen the metamorphosis.
E=AlLostInSpace13; 1406241]If we ALL act this way then prices will be under control.
Spaceman[/QUOTE]
Would not the same logic apply to the motocyle issue? This is not the DMV.
I for one, would much rather hear about prices for services, exchange rates, etc, than mindless banter.
[QUOTE=How14;1406321]Sorry but can't agree with that, whos interested in his 180 bht lunch especially as hes not writing where he bought the lunch? Waste of time, its a sex forum yeah? Not a restaurant menu, just a waste of time trawling through all the trivia.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to hear you took a course from a bad language teacher in the case of suay muck muck. Just kidding. I only say this as I teach english to the Thai people who live around where I live. This is how they tell me to say it. So I think they would know.
Also when you ask if they want a drink it is Ja deurm arai mai. Ja means in the future tense. According to my book Thai language book and the person I am currently helping, she says that ja deurm a rai mai is the correct was to pronounce.
Not to start anything as the meaning of what you want to get across is more important.
Yes, you are correct on the rest of you wording and meanings.
Keep up the good help.
Maybe the next thing to teach is Kuhn mee hoi? The girls love that one.
[QUOTE=Mackin; 1407061]Sorry to hear you took a course from a bad language teacher in the case of suay muck muck. Just kidding. I only say this as I teach english to the Thai people who live around where I live. This is how they tell me to say it. So I think they would know.
Also when you ask if they want a drink it is Ja deurm arai mai. Ja means in the future tense. According to my book Thai language book and the person I am currently helping, she says that ja deurm a rai mai is the correct was to pronounce.
Not to start anything as the meaning of what you want to get across is more important.
Yes, you are correct on the rest of you wording and meanings.
Keep up the good help.
Maybe the next thing to teach is Kuhn mee hoi? The girls love that one.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback. My brain struggles with new languages. My Thai is very limited and terrible. I thought the prior post passing on language tips was very good. I wanted to share what little I know and stimulate a little discussion. One of the things I've earned from travelling is a few phrases and a big smile go a long way.
Lots of girls on BR the past few days. It is the same as always from what I am seeing. 500 B ST, kissing, BBBJ, sex (covered or BB).
Many of these girls have no problem with bareback.
I have found 3. All fresh in town from Isaan. I like to pick the decent ones that speak little English. They love you and do anything for 500 B.
Hit up Bliss lounge for the first time. BBBJ bar 700 B. I chose Pam. Very good skills and a trouper. Nice place with private rooms.
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470;1406120]Accounts of his day. He is contributing knowledge and information about life in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]True, and most importantly these specific details that may seem mundane notes to some readers at the time of their publishing, always become more and more interesting (well it does to me, anyway) to look back upon as an archive snapshot of particular times, as the years roll on. It is very interesting to read decades old guidebooks to see how much things operated and cost (and subsequently weep).
[QUOTE=Popper1;1406437]Oh yea, and I banger her, and she gave a nice BBBJ, swallowed.[/quote][i]"Consume the water of life, and be joyous" [/i]
[QUOTE]Everyone reading this need pray for the healing of Little Popper.[/QUOTE][I] (Kneels on floor with a bunch of incense sticks, issuing forth healing incantations) [/I]
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo; 1406765]But I am always on a budget. This is how I can afford these kind of trips once or twice a year.[/QUOTE]Me too. Unfortunately we're in a place which sees such a wide range of visitors, from several month visitors to one week visitors who can throw money around like it is their wild oats. It seems to me that what some fellas hand out when they don't have to, it would be simpler for them to just visit Escorts back in Europe rather than come over to Thailand and start throwing around unrealistic amounts of money to Bar Girls / Massage Girls. It only helps creates locally unrealistic fees and cartel pricing.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1406875]Khun naa-rak maak which translates as you are so cute[/QUOTE]Usefull phrase that one, thank you.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1407094]Many of these girls have no problem with bareback.[/QUOTE]Being an occasional 'free slinger' myself, such 'ease' would make me wary. Doing it with any WG is gambling, but even a little token resistance to the proposal at least 'deludes' me psychologically for the encounter that perhaps she may not be getting multiple unverified loads slung up her snatch each day from every Rob, Stefan and Thuanthong that visits. Encountering a [i]"Sure, no problem"[/i] Would only serve to remind me she probably is (perhaps only one hour ago too, with her love purse still lined with unverified magic potions).
Each to their own though.
Met Amex. Spg yesterday. He really is the man for Pattaya. Knows every bar, every location and most girls and managers.
Got a 1000LT offer until noon next day on BeachRoad, but the girl did not stop talking (good english though) and appeared 'cheaper' in style every mjnute we spent together. Asked her to leave after first shit and gave her700-
She was ok with that.
Strange girl, intelligent, unexpected good English. But something wascwrong with her.
Then I decided to hit beach road anither time. A very njce one unfortunately had no I'd, so I turned her down. (700 ST only).
Continued and decided fir the other exreme. 31, but suoer hot dark thai woman. Was clise to WS on motorbikds. She us a bit of a princess thought. But if you like that. Very nice. 1500, 1am to 1pm with 2 shots. Funny thing is that I was already woren so only she came at night. Snd even appeared worried and angry about that. Think she had a small aging issue.
Now I just returned from a nice massage. And unexpectedky was asked "full body?" In the middle of it. I agrred but was so surprised that I not even negotiated. 700 extram damage for. Happy ending. Too much?
So my question is can you get full body at most massage places,
Or are there even any real up-scale places with cute young girls and a bit more of pampering?
[QUOTE=Popper1; 1406437]Popper: "How much you want?" (always let her say first how much she wants, rather than make offer)
Gal: "1000"
Popper "I love you 700 baht."[/QUOTE]I disagree with this approach. First number out matters in all negotiations, there is a well-known psychological effect called anchoring. If you start with a 500 and then agree on 700, she'll feel like she won 200 baht. Whereas if you let her start at 1000 and end up at 800, she'll feel like she lost 200 (although you're paying more).
The basic going rate is sticky, and it should still be 500 baht for freelancers, don't give that up so easily. Once that goes, the price will jump not to 7-800, but straight to 1000. That is already becoming the asking price, and though they start out by shyly testing the waters, soon an an increasing number of them are unwilling to budge.
No, I'm NOT advocating being stingy. By all means, if a girl went above and beyond and was a proper GFE (as most of them were up to a few years back), reward her properly and tip her well. However, allowing the base rate to go up doesn't benefit us in any way. In fact, higher base rate only leaves less room for tipping the good ones, and low expectation of tips encourages the baseline, wham-bam-no-extras behavior. If you want to be generous, be generous after the fact, not upfront, it benefits you directly and all of us indirectly.
While preparing for my upcoming trip, I came across a webcam for FLB Bar on walking street. It's a live cam so it doesn't start to be interesting until around 10pm Thai time, which is morning for me.
What's interesting is that you can buy the girls drinks online. When someone buys a drink, it's usually a blowjob, and the girls put on a bit of a show while drinking it. For the most part the webcam is PG. Just some coyotes dancing and an occasional shot of the bar, with a closeup of the girl doing the shot every now and again. But what I've noticed is there is a huge difference on how much of a show a girl will put on while taking the drink. Some have made me think,"Okay, she looks bored, probably the same while performing the act on a guy." While others really get into it. It's made me want to go and check out these girls in person with the possibility of doing a short time with them to test their skills.
Are there any other bar web cams like this? Since I will be cash rich and time poor during my trip, the more research I can do from home the better.
[QUOTE=RBDave; 1407456]While preparing for my upcoming trip, I came across a webcam for FLB Bar on walking street. It's a live cam so it doesn't start to be interesting until around 10pm Thai time, which is morning for me.
What's interesting is that you can buy the girls drinks online. When someone buys a drink, it's usually a blowjob, and the girls put on a bit of a show while drinking it. For the most part the webcam is PG. Just some coyotes dancing and an occasional shot of the bar, with a closeup of the girl doing the shot every now and again. But what I've noticed is there is a huge difference on how much of a show a girl will put on while taking the drink. Some have made me think,"Okay, she looks bored, probably the same while performing the act on a guy." While others really get into it. It's made me want to go and check out these girls in person with the possibility of doing a short time with them to test their skills.
Are there any other bar web cams like this? Since I will be cash rich and time poor during my trip, the more research I can do from home the better.[/QUOTE]Google Thailand or Pattaya Bar Web Cams and you will get some hits. I hope to be there in May. Good luck.
just finished a trip to pattaya so here are my thoughts.
first off i'd like to thank everyone for answering my many questions, and for not being pricks like the handful of guys in the philippines board who try and act like they have power and created a stupid "no asking questions until you post a trip report" rule.
somehow they don't realize that is the most counterintuitive rule ever because the most important time to ask questions is when you have no experience somewhere, but really its just a few assholes and there are still some decent folk there.
/endrant.
i don't have a lot of money and try to do things as cheap as possible so know thats my perspective on all things.
so i stayed in pattaya for 1 month, i got a room at view talay building 1, i wanted to be closer to the action originally but arrived on a weekend and everything was booked, hopped on the baht bus to jomtien walked into that building was quoted 12k for the month, then when waiting in the lobby a friendly guy informs me that if i go right to the left of the entrance to the building to "nana rooms" i could get a better rate and paid 10k for the month.
if i shopped around i probably could have found cheaper but i wanted to get something booked asap as i was only doing 30 days in town, it was on the baht bus route and thats all that really matters, no complaint at all with where i stayed.
for food i ate at a big open air thai restaurant on jomtien beach road, it was pretty crowded most of the times i went, good pad thai for 50 baht same with good crispy pork, also ate at an italian place right next to the bus station that was good, had the breakfast buffet at cafe pascal right across from the marriot was good, and a $2 chicken shwarma inbetween cafe pascal and the area where the baht buses wait to head to jomtien, gave you a huge schwarma for $2 great value.
for anyone that needs reliable internet ais 3g stick gets the job done, not to fast speeds but very consistent.
now to girls. my plan going in since i was on a budget was to get a few beach road girls for 500, or maybe 700 for 2 pops, a few insomnia girls, do a soapie, and i really wanted to do a black chick.
but as we all know plans don't work out, first beach road girl was a little older had nice body in clothes but when the top came off her boobs were the most baby destroyed things i had ever seen.
had one decent experience from beach road, then another bad one and didn't try again, seemed to me like there were decent options at night but in the day it was just awful, there were at most 2 ok chicks out but they knew they were better than the rest, one girl wanted 800 i said can we do 2 pops you won't be in my room for that long she says 1600 for 2 pops. i could tell her attitude was awful so i just walked away.
took two walking street freelancers, one was for 1000 for all night she was good, not a stunner but a solid 7 and a nice girl.
the other one we agreed to do 1000 for all night she was also a 7 but on the street she was all over me couldn't have been nicer, i thought i was in for a great night but the second we got into the room everything changed, she lays in bed and just wants to sleep, gets bitchy, i almost have to force her to fuck me as she just lays there give her 500 and kick her out, she said she didn't know why i was kicking her out as if she hadn't gone from sweetest girl ever to.
went to insomnia get a few numbers but none of the cute girls will go with me, see this one girl she isn't hot but she isn't fat, i had taken a few nights off at this point and was pretty horny i ask her to go with me i say 1000 for 2 pops / hours she says ok, i had been in cambodia and not gotten many bj's for awhile and make it clear that i'm looking for a decent amount of head, we go out i start to ask motorbike how much to jomtien she tells me she has her own bike, says i can give her the 200 instead of a moto driver i laugh it off obv thinking its a joke. we get to the room she brings up the 200 i think she has to be kidding so laugh it off again, we do round 1 talk for a bit inbetween i tell her how i had been in cambodia she now refuses to give me another bj because cambodia girls are so dirty.
yes the pattaya girl who is in the dirtiest city in the world possibly says cambodian girls are to dirty, sorry but there is no question that pattaya chicks are far dirtier sexually then cambo chicks.
so i say no bj i don't want to do again i told you how much i wanted that, she says fine give me the 1200 and ill go, i laugh at 1200 and say ill give you 600 if we arent doing again, she says what about the 200 for the motorbike. this just shows you the attitude of a lot of thai girls, i road on many girls bikes in cambo and they would tell me no when i offered to give them a dollar for gas (i'd make them take it) and this girl is trying to charge me $7 for a short ride so she can go make money off me.
i say ill give her 50 for the ride and 650 total if she will just leave, she tells me that guys who have been with cambo girls shouldn't go into insomnia and she will make big trouble for me, i say fine we can do again ill give you the thousand so you arent so mad we can fuk with no bj and she says to late
fine with me she wasnt hot
next few days i text some of the insomnia numbers i got with no success, the hottest one tells me she is hanging with her boyfriend the first time, since she was hot i tried again the next day she says with boyfriend but he leaves tomorrow, try again the next day the boyfriend answers. try again the 4th day and she comes over for 1k for 2 pops, she was so great that i went with her every time from then on out didn't go with another girl.
i would still go out and look but never saw one i wanted more than her.
there was one other girl i tried with when i first was going with insomnia girl, i had ran into her on walking street during the day had a fantastic body and cute face, i called her a few times she spoke almost no english but when talking to her interpreter she would only go with me if i went to her bar and paid barfine so never got with her, she was hot but woulda cost me at least double the other girl and who knows what her performance woulda been like.
because of what i had read on here i tried a few of the "freakier" gogo's out, first stop was xzone bunch of fat chicks trying to get me to put a condom on and finger them, finally a girl with nice body gets on the table above me she asks for a ladies drink i say after your done dancing, she asks again i say fine, she then asks for me to buy the waitress one also i say no, she asks again i say no again, waitress says please i say no, dancer then asks again in a bitchy way i can tell any good will i got from the ladys drink i bought her is now gone 15 seconds after i said yes, hate getting pressured like that so said you know what never mind paid the 90 baht for my water and left, waitress who was begging for a ladies drink obv asks for a tip.
went to windmill one night really late not many guys in there i sit by the table at the back left where the girls play around. 65 year old man going down on a 19 year old not really what i want to see, this guy is just going to town on her then new girls come in and he is all over them as well, i don't want to be going down on these girls but do wonder if i can go over and start feeling around as it doesn't appear this guy is buying any ladies drinks or tipping, i get my drink and ask for my change to come in 20 baht notes, i'm not buying any ladies drinks but will pass out some tips, the waitress asks if she can have one of the 20 notes (asking for a tip?) i pretend i didn't hear, no lady when you ask you don't get, i'm like 4 feet from the girls and consider moving over when the waitress brings over a girl to sit with me, she says its her 2nd day and she is really shy (who goes to windmill for shy?)
waitress starts pushing for ladies drinks i say no, girl is to shy and want her to leave so maybe a fun girl might sit next to me but she just sits there, debate going over and playing with the girls but now its just me and the old dude in there they know they arent making any money and close up for the night.
i'm not a fan of any bars but the gogo's are definitely not for me, sure if you want to spend $20 to talk to a girl i can see why you might like them, but i'd rather spend $20 to have sex with a girl.
insomnia / ibar is by far the best bet, lots of good looking girls in both go in grab as many numbers as you can get most of them won't turn into anything but if you stay persistent and keep trying a few of them will end up in your bed at a reasonable price, i realize that might not work for guys on shorter trips but you can still offer them 2k and get it cheaper than you will at a go-go.
overall i think pattaya is the vegas of mongering, its bigger, brighter, flashier, theres more girls. but as far as value goes it doesn't rank to high.
i went about as cheap as you could for your first month there, spent a little under $1300 to get laid 15 or so nights in the month, that might sound like great value to some but in cambodia i was able to get laid 20 nights in a month on under $1000
WOW.
When I think I know a place, I find out I do not.
I have never been this place. I thought it was just a Gogo bar.
It is not just that. It is a series of sexy shows that are extremely entertaining.
Vegas quality in my opinion.
I guess I need to RTFF.
If you are in Pats go to this place. It is a lot of fun.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1407556]WOW. When I think I know a place, I find out I do not. I have never been this place. I thought it was just a Gogo bar. It is not just that. It is a series of sexy shows that are extremely entertaining. Vegas quality in my opinion. I guess I need to RTFF. If you are in Pats go to this place. It is a lot of fun.[/QUOTE]Damn dude. I take it you have never been to the one in Nana Entertainment Plaza in Bangkok either? Same thing. Angel Witch is the only agogo that I will take people to besides X-Zone because of the themed shows and it is not just chicks standing on stage like every other one. It is also really fun to be in the show. So if they ask for volunteers break your neck trying to get to the stage first. I have a buddy who comes to Pattaya and the only fucking place he goes is Angel Witch; no other agogos, bars, or discos. He sits in the balcony next to the rail all night and does it everyday.
P.S. There is also an Angel Witch in Angeles City, Philippines. I have never stopped in to see if it is the same thing though.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1407556]WOW.
When I think I know a place, I find out I do not.
I have never been this place. I thought it was just a Gogo bar.
It is not just that. It is a series of sexy shows that are extremely entertaining.
Vegas quality in my opinion.
I guess I need to RTFF.
If you are in Pats go to this place. It is a lot of fun.[/QUOTE]Sounds like. An interesting. Alternative. What is. It shortlx. About and what is. The. Approx. Damage. There?
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1407435]The basic going rate is sticky, and it should still be 500 baht for freelancers, don't give that up so easily. Once that goes, the price will jump not to 7-800, but straight to 1000. That is already becoming the asking price, and though they start out by shyly testing the waters, soon an an increasing number of them are unwilling to budge.[/QUOTE]Really? I never encountered a 500 offer also I moyt say that I always negotiate fir LT. Yesterday tried Baccara GG, but it was indeed too early (Amex was right again. To negotiate there. All the hotties asked 4000 for LT, but they were real hotties which were much younger and supposedly much less unspoiled than on beach road. Got a nice ine verx shy and first day in which goes 3000 LT but others told her she us not alliwed too. Too young to not care about so.
I then tried a few bars WS and got severall 1500 LT offers. Took one which was nice, great smile, nice body. But she was lying about her age, said 25, bbut was 30 at end. Very good english though.
Guess I try alternative strategy today. Bad english and shy, therefore more likely to be really new to the business. I am already bored by the professional sex machines doing customers every day since years. They simply have a touch turning me off extremly!
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1407435]I disagree with this approach. First number out matters in all negotiations, there is a well-known psychological effect called anchoring. If you start with a 500 and then agree on 700, she'll feel like she won 200 baht. Whereas if you let her start at 1000 and end up at 800, she'll feel like she lost 200 (although you're paying more).
The basic going rate is sticky, and it should still be 500 baht for freelancers, don't give that up so easily. Once that goes, the price will jump not to 7-800, but straight to 1000. That is already becoming the asking price, and though they start out by shyly testing the waters, soon an an increasing number of them are unwilling to budge.
No, I'm NOT advocating being stingy. By all means, if a girl went above and beyond and was a proper GFE (as most of them were up to a few years back) , reward her properly and tip her well. However, allowing the base rate to go up doesn't benefit us in any way. In fact, higher base rate only leaves less room for tipping the good ones, and low expectation of tips encourages the baseline, wham-bam-no-extras behavior. If you want to be generous, be generous after the fact, not upfront, it benefits you directly and all of us indirectly.[/QUOTE]Some wise words here
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1407580]Damn dude. I take it you have never been to the one in Nana Entertainment Plaza in Bangkok either? Same thing. Angel Witch is the only agogo that I will take people to besides X-Zone because of the themed shows and it is not just chicks standing on stage like every other one. It is also really fun to be in the show. So if they ask for volunteers break your neck trying to get to the stage first. I have a buddy who comes to Pattaya and the only fucking place he goes is Angel Witch; no other agogos, bars, or discos. He sits in the balcony next to the rail all night and does it everyday.
P. S. There is also an Angel Witch in Angeles City, Philippines. I have never stopped in to see if it is the same thing though.[/QUOTE]No, I don't know shit. I am not a Gogo guy, and I thought it was just another place. The one here in Pats the dudes out front throw those signs in your face and I just thought it was annoying so I never went.
But a local girl took me.
We each had 2 drinks and I think we spent 3 1/2 hours in the place. Plus I bought several rounds of those ping pong balls. 1000 B total.
A great deal for the quality of entertainment.
This is a Beach Road hottie I picked up about 2 minutes later. GFE 500 B.
She did not want photos and did not know I took this.
I have been with this girl for 1 1/2 days. Cute as a button. 1000 B for 24 hours. Full GFE. I cum in her mouth pussy and asshole.
She is super nice. One of my better catches. She has the cleanest asshole and pussy I have every seen. I love licking her asshole then fucking it good. Young Isaan pussy who wants to please.
We have been at the pool a lot. I bought her a bikini with Gstring on ass. All the dudes are drulling. HAHA. Pattaya is better than ever for me.
went for an oil message. 250 baht. great job too, so 50 baht tip. walked the beach about 3pm. talked to several girls. most agreed to 500 baht for short time. i would say thank you and keep walking and pricing. i met apple. 28, spinner. she is from singapore. when i asked how much, she said 700 baht. i of course said 500. she quickly said ok! i said lets go. she jumped up. screamed with her girlfriend with excitement and down the road we went. that kind of reaction over 500 baht. great effort, great bbbj.
i agree with those of you who start low and work up. i also agree that all of us should try to keep the free lance standard at 500 baht for short time. i think most guys are lazy or think just because the girl says. 700, 800 or 1000 baht. that's it! nope, remember this. if you don't ask, you won't get. try it. if she says 1000 baht, counter with 500. she might just say yes. it's that easy. don't be afraid to negotiate. this trip for me is 51 days. so, i need to negotiate where i can. 18 girls in 8 days. most came down when i asked. it's been my experience that young age and great looks does not mean great performance. i understand. we all have our own tastes. i'm just suggesting you counter offer once or twice. as for me. i am willing to walk away from every girl i meet. i know meeting a girl here is like waiting at a bus stop. wait 10 or 15 minutes and another one comes along. most asian cultures barter back and forth. it's their custom to do business this way.
met up with amexspg for a drink. which quickly turned into a rally race kinda speed bar hopping event. it was his last night and he wanted to make the rounds. most beers around the walking street area where between 65 baht for draft and 120-130 baht for a tiger beer. if you read this when you get home, amexspg. i hope you had a good trip home and it was good to meet you. till next time.
i went to walking street disco, had a few beers. went to the hot tuna (i think) and listened to some very good classic metal band, few more beers. then i went to marine disco, yep, few more beers. left about 3am or so and met nana. 23, from loas on walking street. i asked and she said 1000. you guessed it. i offered 500 and she said 700. i had been drinking so my skills were diminished. i said 500 again and she said 600. ok. 600 it is. she was curvy too, like i like them. after fooling around. we feel asleep. imagine that. woke up about noon and fooled around again. she stayed long time and we fooled around twice. she did a great job and was very pleasant. i gave her 1000 baht and off she went. cutting loose and drinking a lot and taking a girl long time is not my normal gig. but it happens from time to time. welcome to pattaya!
Just saw your report Luvpuss. Great catch! Great job!
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1407673]Just saw your report Luvpuss. Great catch! Great job![/QUOTE]Thanks for yours also.
In some of the reports it seemed liked this place was in demise. ?? More girls than ever here from what I am seeing. Beach Road and FL spots are packed. Same prices as always. It make me very happy man.
I've seen their yellow and black signs all over Pattaya, so I decided to check the place out. Mamasan called out the line up. It was around 7pm on a weeknight. I think 11-12 ladies lined up. I chose a lean, clean, tall for Thai lady named Luna. She wasnt giving it away, but I enjoyed my 2 hours with her. BBBJ, had to use the "mechai" for boom boom. That wasnt a problem for me. I usually cover up anyway. She has lots of energy, and her English is a little better than the average Pattaya lady. Check out #2. Really pretty. I don't like the way Thai women stake their claim to you when you chose them first. But that's the way they operate. I've been told they lose face if you come back and chose another lady. The other girls think she can't satisfy / keep her man! I will try to figure out how to hook up with #2, without Luna knowing about it. I never intentionally cause a Thai to lose face. Embarassing to them, and potentially dangerous. BTW, about 3K for a full two hours. This place just might be my budget buster on this trip.
For my first night in Pats on this trip I hooked up with beautiful Saa at Casnovy. Saa is almost 6ft tall and likes to wear heels which can make her look like a giraffe, she is quite a treat to parade into the streets of Pats. She is also a social person who likes to go out and be the center of attention, yet she is far from pretentious and really quite a simple and honest girl. That is why I like her, even though in bed she is very far from PSE.
I barfine Saa and she makes me wait so she can bring her friends along to I-Bar, I buy a bottle or red label and pretty soon I have 5 girls around me for the night. When I-Bar closed we moved upstairs where I bought another bottle and now everybody loves me and cuddling and kissing. When Insomnia closed we went to that nearby bar that has pool tables where partygoers end up at the wee hours of the morning, I forgot the name. Bought another bottle. There was almost a bar fight between one of "my" girls and an outsider, something about the other girl using profusely whatever the equivalent of the F word is in Thai. Saa calmed things down (she could easily have knocked that other girl out if she wanted to) and we went for breakfast, then the girls decided to go swimming near the Hilton.
Here we are at 8AM. 5 drunk girls in night gowns and high heels and me, singing in the baht bus and on the way to the beach, where everybody was thrown in the water with their clothes on, kind of. I have not had that much fun in a long time. We had lunch on the beach and it was just the coolest moment. The make up was gone, the BS was gone, just 5 simple girls still wearing their disco artifacts in the sunlight.
Took Saa back to my room around 1PM, the other girls went their own way. We slept and she insisted I fuck her (her words) before she left around 8PM to go home and then back to the club. The damage? Quite bad I think. Maybe 15K including 4K to Saa (= LT barfine) and some unaccounted for amount, that is what happens when you drink too much. Do I regret it, hell no!
I like one of Saa's friends but it could be delicate to barfine her instead of Saa, who is kind of a GFE type or likes to appear as such. Of course she is a pro she'll get over it in a second, but I don't like to damage my relationship with her. Yet I do like this other girl! Let's see what happens.
Walked the beach, met Edna. 28, curvy. 500 baht short time. Turned out being a good one. After taking care of business, she showered. When she was done and I headed in to shower, she gave me two thumbs up and said I was good! She said this with an ear to ear smile. That alone was almost worth the 500 baht. And yes, I know she is on the clock. So who really knows what she thought. Later went to a couple of go-go bars. Tiger beer at the go-go bars on soi 7 are 65 baht. Silver star was charging 125 baht for a Tiger. Little tired tonight. Nine and a half days in Thailand has caught up to me. That or the 19 girls I've had so far. But who's counting, right? Heading to Cambodia in a couple of days. Play hard, play safe guys!
[QUOTE=Mahal; 1407789]For my first night in Pats on this trip I hooked up with beautiful Saa at Casnovy. Saa is almost 6ft tall and likes to wear heels which can make her look like a giraffe, she is quite a treat to parade into the streets of Pats. She is also a social person who likes to go out and be the center of attention, yet she is far from pretentious and really quite a simple and honest girl. That is why I like her, even though in bed she is very far from PSE.
I barfine Saa and she makes me wait so she can bring her friends along to I-Bar, I buy a bottle or red label and pretty soon I have 5 girls around me for the night. When I-Bar closed we moved upstairs where I bought another bottle and now everybody loves me and cuddling and kissing. When Insomnia closed we went to that nearby bar that has pool tables where partygoers end up at the wee hours of the morning, I forgot the name. Bought another bottle. There was almost a bar fight between one of "my" girls and an outsider, something about the other girl using profusely whatever the equivalent of the F word is in Thai. Saa calmed things down (she could easily have knocked that other girl out if she wanted to) and we went for breakfast, then the girls decided to go swimming near the Hilton.
Here we are at 8AM. 5 drunk girls in night gowns and high heels and me, singing in the baht bus and on the way to the beach, where everybody was thrown in the water with their clothes on, kind of. I have not had that much fun in a long time. We had lunch on the beach and it was just the coolest moment. The make up was gone, the BS was gone, just 5 simple girls still wearing their disco artifacts in the sunlight.
Took Saa back to my room around 1PM, the other girls went their own way. We slept and she insisted I fuck her (her words) before she left around 8PM to go home and then back to the club. The damage? Quite bad I think. Maybe 15K including 4K to Saa (= LT barfine) and some unaccounted for amount, that is what happens when you drink too much. Do I regret it, hell no!
I like one of Saa's friends but it could be delicate to barfine her instead of Saa, who is kind of a GFE type or likes to appear as such. Of course she is a pro she'll get over it in a second, but I don't like to damage my relationship with her. Yet I do like this other girl! Let's see what happens.[/QUOTE]What I want to know is why is this acceptable but if a japanese wants to pay 5k for a for a gal rather than the usual 3k then he is derided.
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1407801]Walked the beach, met Edna. 28, curvy. 500 baht short time. Turned out being a good one. After taking care of business, she showered. When she was done and I headed in to shower, she gave me two thumbs up and said I was good! She said this with an ear to ear smile. That alone was almost worth the 500 baht. And yes, I know she is on the clock. So who really knows what she thought. Later went to a couple of go-go bars. Tiger beer at the go-go bars on soi 7 are 65 baht. Silver star was charging 125 baht for a Tiger. Little tired tonight. Nine and a half days in Thailand has caught up to me. That or the 19 girls I've had so far. But who's counting, right? Heading to Cambodia in a couple of days. Play hard, play safe guys![/QUOTE]RE: My Girl Massage
Anybody had any experiences here (good or bad?). They have only been open since 2012, but they have a nice website and some good videos.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Mahal; 1407789]For my first night in Pats on this trip I hooked up with beautiful Saa at Casnovy. Saa is almost 6ft tall and likes to wear heels which can make her look like a giraffe, she is quite a treat to parade into the streets of Pats. She is also a social person who likes to go out and be the center of attention, yet she is far from pretentious and really quite a simple and honest girl. That is why I like her, even though in bed she is very far from PSE.
I barfine Saa and she makes me wait so she can bring her friends along to I-Bar, I buy a bottle or red label and pretty soon I have 5 girls around me for the night. When I-Bar closed we moved upstairs where I bought another bottle and now everybody loves me and cuddling and kissing. When Insomnia closed we went to that nearby bar that has pool tables where partygoers end up at the wee hours of the morning, I forgot the name. Bought another bottle. There was almost a bar fight between one of "my" girls and an outsider, something about the other girl using profusely whatever the equivalent of the F word is in Thai. Saa calmed things down (she could easily have knocked that other girl out if she wanted to) and we went for breakfast, then the girls decided to go swimming near the Hilton.
Here we are at 8AM. 5 drunk girls in night gowns and high heels and me, singing in the baht bus and on the way to the beach, where everybody was thrown in the water with their clothes on, kind of. I have not had that much fun in a long time. We had lunch on the beach and it was just the coolest moment. The make up was gone, the BS was gone, just 5 simple girls still wearing their disco artifacts in the sunlight.
Took Saa back to my room around 1PM, the other girls went their own way. We slept and she insisted I fuck her (her words) before she left around 8PM to go home and then back to the club. The damage? Quite bad I think. Maybe 15K including 4K to Saa (= LT barfine) and some unaccounted for amount, that is what happens when you drink too much. Do I regret it, hell no!
I like one of Saa's friends but it could be delicate to barfine her instead of Saa, who is kind of a GFE type or likes to appear as such. Of course she is a pro she'll get over it in a second, but I don't like to damage my relationship with her. Yet I do like this other girl! Let's see what happens.[/QUOTE]No doubt the money you mentioned was stolen from you. Sounds like you had a good night there for 15k tho.
I almost wrote this place off. Fuck, did I have a good time in 3 days.
10 fucks total. 5 with my LT.
This is another photo of my sweet Isaan LT. We laughed, drank, ate, swam, slept and fucked, fucked, fucked. I was sad to leave.
I hope to see her again later in the year. On to BKK.
Walked the beach three times today before I met Som around 7pm, she was 25, BBBJ, photos, good service, playful with a great sense of humor. Today is Sunday, could explain why so slow earlier. I sat and we chit chatted for a little while. I used what little Thai I had and she went along with it. I asked how much. Som asked for 800 baht. You guessed it. I offered 500. She came down to 700. I said ha-loy baht (500). She said ok. 650! I smiled, laughed and said. Ok. 600 and you have a deal. We were both laughing at the 650 offer she made. Off we went for 600 baht. Oh, she asked if I was sadistic. I told her no, I pay less if she wanted me to be. Once again. We laughed. Then she asked if I had a big cock. I asked why, do you charge more. Yes, we had to laugh at that one too. Smiles, laughter, got laid. I leave tomorrow.....:(
Then again, I am going to Cambodia. =)
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;1407881]What I want to know is why is this acceptable but if a japanese wants to pay 5k for a for a gal rather than the usual 3k then he is derided.[/QUOTE]It quite simple really. You could start by considering that other than the LT bar fine which is standard, I spent all the money on booze and food so that surely does not ruin the market for others. Then, to be technical, I got to hang around with 5 girls for about 10 hours and one stayed a total of 17 hours. So the ratio per girl per hour is much better than if one spent a couple hours or even the night with a 5k gal. That being said I would not look at it this way, it was a priceless moment for me. And I have no problem with Japanese or anyone else doing whatever they like with their money and their time.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1408112]I almost wrote this place off. Fuck, did I have a good time in 3 days.
10 fucks total. 5 with my LT.
This is another photo of my sweet Isaan LT. We laughed, drank, ate, swam, slept and fucked, fucked, fucked. I was sad to leave.
I hope to see her again later in the year. On to BKK.[/QUOTE]So you were the guy in the next room making that poor girl scream all night! Way to go Luvpuss. From where I am sitting right now at the desk, I can see the exact same floor and bathroom corner that are in your photo, only the girl is missing, it's time to go out!
BTW last night Saa got a hold of me again at Insomnia. I tried to divert to her friend instead, that went well. I think Saa said something like "you can fuck any girl in the world but not my friends" in a manner that suggested she would have a mob squad take care of me immediately if I did. Then she made a comment about me being her boyfriend. I am in trouble.
[QUOTE=Mahal;1408224]BTW last night Saa got a hold of me again at Insomnia. I tried to divert to her friend instead, that went well. I think Saa said something like "you can fuck any girl in the world but not my friends" in a manner that suggested she would have a mob squad take care of me immediately if I did. Then she made a comment about me being her boyfriend. I am in trouble.[/QUOTE]Why didn't you correct her and tell her that you do not want a girlfriend? There is no need to lie or play out a boyfriend / girlfriend fantasy with a girl you are paying. Tell them from the beginning that you are a butterfly and you want to fuck her and after you want to fuck all of her friends.
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo; 1408191]Walked the beach three times today before I met Som around 7pm, she was 25, BBBJ, photos, good service, playful with a great sense of humor. Today is Sunday, could explain why so slow earlier. I sat and we chit chatted for a little while. I used what little Thai I had and she went along with it. I asked how much. Som asked for 800 baht. You guessed it. I offered 500. She came down to 700. I said ha-loy baht (500). She said ok. 650! I smiled, laughed and said. Ok. 600 and you have a deal. We were both laughing at the 650 offer she made. Off we went for 600 baht. Oh, she asked if I was sadistic. I told her no, I pay less if she wanted me to be. Once again. We laughed. Then she asked if I had a big cock. I asked why, do you charge more. Yes, we had to laugh at that one too. Smiles, laughter, got laid. I leave tomorrow.
Then again, I am going to Cambodia. =) [/QUOTE]Excellent reports Sixty Two Echo will keep an eye on the the Cambodia Thread, I am planning a visit to Pattaya this year would like to follow your footsteps!
Thank you so much I will report once I start my mongering trip in Asia.
Went to Lucifers and had a beer while waiting for a buddy of mine (Tiger 175 baht). He didn't show so down the street I went. Stopped at Blue Sky bar and listen to the band play (Tiger 120 baht). About 3am went to Marine disco for a beer. Headed home and met Puy on walking street. 24, big tits (fake) and big smile. Real. 600 baht, short time, good service, down the road she went. Flying out today. Will post in Cambodia section.
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1408391]Went to Lucifers and had a beer while waiting for a buddy of mine (Tiger 175 baht).[/QUOTE]Did the prices go up in Lucifer recently? In the years I have been going there a Heineken has always been 140 baht at one of the bars in the front section of the club. But if you buy it at one of the bars in the back it is 160 baht. Also if you buy a girl a drink there it is best to slip her 100 baht and let her order for herself because then it will cost 90 baht. But if you order or pay then it will be regular farang price.
[QUOTE=How14;1408077]No doubt the money you mentioned was stolen from you. Sounds like you had a good night there for 15k tho.[/QUOTE]This is premature, if you go over his story you will see he bar hop and purchased a few bottles. Bottles aren't cheap nor having that many girls around him the bill can add up quickly?
As for Mutantchicken remarks? What does the Japanese have to do with this story and the 5k baht? Did he run into a Japanese and was outbidded for her services? One thing about Pattaya or anywhere you don't need to complete with any race including the Japanese. Just smile and walk away no one is making you complete, this game is no more like fishing?
LBM
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1408391]Went to Lucifers and had a beer while waiting for a buddy of mine (Tiger 175 baht). He didn't show so down the street I went. Stopped at Blue Sky bar and listen to the band play (Tiger 120 baht). About 3am went to Marine disco for a beer. Headed home and met Puy on walking street. 24, big tits (fake) and big smile. Real. 600 baht, short time, good service, down the road she went. Flying out today. Will post in Cambodia section.[/QUOTE]Yes, good job, good posts. Good for you for not being afraid of the hunt. Good luck in Cambo.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1408491]This is premature, if you go over his story you will see he bar hop and purchased a few bottles. Bottles aren't cheap nor having that many girls around him the bill can add up quickly?
As for Mutantchicken remarks? What does the Japanese have to do with this story and the 5k baht? Did he run into a Japanese and was outbidded for her services? One thing about Pattaya or anywhere you don't need to complete with any race including the Japanese. Just smile and walk away no one is making you complete, this game is no more like fishing?
LBM[/QUOTE]I agree, I don't think any money was stolen, once I was sober enough to replay the evening in more details I am quite sure I spent it.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1407658]I have been with this girl for 1 1/2 days. Cute as a button. 1000 B for 24 hours. Full GFE. I cum in her mouth pussy and asshole.[/QUOTE]I know she is not Anurak, my 2011 (or '12?) Isaan girl I meet in Patong, but especially the standing picture looks a lot like, solid proportion body and great smile. I have a writeup about that story still sitting here on my PC, I shall post it before or after. She did things that really moved me, without asking or implying myself doing anything in return. I hope she's happily settled in North Europe now.
Perhaps someone can help me solve the following mystery. I've visited Patts a few times and, being a daytime monger, I prefer bars and the street to discotheques. In my experience, if you approach a bar girl (even a waitress in some places) in the late afternoon or early evening and ask if she's available long-time until the next morning, mostly she will jump into your arms and exclaim "YES, my big honey!". However, on the Beach Road, if you ask a girl the same question she will usually drop her shoulders and moan "Oh, bad luck. He wants LT." Has anybody else noticed this difference? And, if so, why is that?
[QUOTE=Priamos;1409340]Perhaps someone can help me solve the following mystery. I've visited Patts a few times and, being a daytime monger, I prefer bars and the street to discotheques. In my experience, if you approach a bar girl (even a waitress in some places) in the late afternoon or early evening and ask if she's available long-time until the next morning, mostly she will jump into your arms and exclaim "YES, my big honey!". However, on the Beach Road, if you ask a girl the same question she will usually drop her shoulders and moan "Oh, bad luck. He wants LT." Has anybody else noticed this difference? And, if so, why is that?[/QUOTE]Many of these girls have the mindset that they can make more money ST. It may be true of the better looking ones.
But, what was your offer? Who are you and what is your approach and appearance? These girls can spot a guy they won't want to be with.
If you offer 500 B for LT, of course they won't go.
If you really like her and have have something to offer such as a nice hotel, good pool (offer to buy her a bikini for 250 B) , you will take her to real resturant to eat, etc. Many girls who might not, like the opportunity to experience this and will go no problem.
[QUOTE=Priamos;1409340]Perhaps someone can help me solve the following mystery. I've visited Patts a few times and, being a daytime monger, I prefer bars and the street to discotheques. In my experience, if you approach a bar girl (even a waitress in some places) in the late afternoon or early evening and ask if she's available long-time until the next morning, mostly she will jump into your arms and exclaim "YES, my big honey!". However, on the Beach Road, if you ask a girl the same question she will usually drop her shoulders and moan "Oh, bad luck. He wants LT." Has anybody else noticed this difference? And, if so, why is that?[/QUOTE]True too, as I am getting older I really do not want to be in the discos. Why do I want loud music and flashy lights that further limits my ability to "interview" my prospect for night?
And as luvpuss also alluded to. Notice that the ladies ask where you stay, this is the evaluation of the $'s you are (possibly) going to reward them and the prospect of a LT. What we still have advantage is. Remember you pay to get them out of your room 5555.
Mtg
[QUOTE=MilesToGo; 1409485]Remember you pay to get them out of your room 5555.
Mtg[/QUOTE]Whats room 5555?
[QUOTE=Priamos;1409340]Perhaps someone can help me solve the following mystery. I've visited Patts a few times and, being a daytime monger, I prefer bars and the street to discotheques. In my experience, if you approach a bar girl (even a waitress in some places) in the late afternoon or early evening and ask if she's available long-time until the next morning, mostly she will jump into your arms and exclaim "YES, my big honey!". However, on the Beach Road, if you ask a girl the same question she will usually drop her shoulders and moan "Oh, bad luck. He wants LT." Has anybody else noticed this difference? And, if so, why is that?[/QUOTE]My guess is that BR girls, being relatively cheap, have a good chance to have a few STs a day, whereas this is much less likely for bargirls. Plus bargirls actually have to work (entertaining the guests) even when between STs, so they have an incentive to leave early and thus escape "work" (of course only to do other kind of "work").
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1409377]Many of these girls have the mindset that they can make more money ST. It may be true of the better looking ones.
But, what was your offer? Who are you and what is your approach and appearance? These girls can spot a guy they won't want to be with.
If you offer 500 B for LT, of course they won't go.
If you really like her and have have something to offer such as a nice hotel, good pool (offer to buy her a bikini for 250 B) , you will take her to real resturant to eat, etc. Many girls who might not, like the opportunity to experience this and will go no problem.[/QUOTE]I can assure you that I am a man in my 40s, decent looks, not a drunkard, only slightly overweight, staying in a good hotel (LK Renaissance) and obsessively clean and well dressed. Also, I've never felt any "bad vibes" when I asked Beach Road girls for ST (nor at all from bar girls. But they are of course at less liberty to express their preferences). I would also have said that I'm no cheapskate in that I always invite the girl to name her price and. If it's not totally unreasonable. Accept.
But your response made me think. I'm very "Scandinavian" in my approach to working girls. I'm friendly and polite, sure, but this is a business transaction. So let's just "shake hands on a bargain". Perhaps I should have made it clear to the girls that, yes, I realise that 8 pm is early for LT, but "if you can be flexible, I can be generous". Frankly, I expected the girls to do the last bit of bargaining themselves.
This reminds me of my last visit to Patts. I picked up an unlikely bedfellow, a waitress from a bar on the second road. Who may have been an "ex bargirl", but who was now a MILF and very pleased at thia opportunity to top up her earnings. After a night in my room she offered me a fresh round of sex in the morning. I told her that, after the previous night, I'd need some more kinky services than just S and F. She got highly embarassed: "Yes, but, er, um, well, ah, then I must ask more than 1000B". HUH? I had the intention all along to pay her more than 1000B. She was a sweetie who had done her best for me, and I was not going to nose her off with "union wage".
Facit: I must be more in-your-face about the fact that I am willing to pay extra for a good effort. Pattaya is, apparently, full of punters who try to pinch the girls for all they've got while paying rock-bottom price.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1409490]Whats room 5555?[/QUOTE]The pronounciation in Thai of 5 is "ha". So. 555 is texto-language for ha-ha-ha.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1407658]I have been with this girl for 1 1/2 days. Cute as a button. 1000 B for 24 hours. Full GFE. I cum in her mouth pussy and asshole.
She is super nice. One of my better catches. She has the cleanest asshole and pussy I have every seen. I love licking her asshole then fucking it good. Young Isaan pussy who wants to please.
We have been at the pool a lot. I bought her a bikini with Gstring on ass. All the dudes are drulling. HAHA. Pattaya is better than ever for me.[/QUOTE]Nice catch. Will be in Patts soon looking for girls like this. 16 days and counting.
[QUOTE=Priamos;1409560]The pronounciation in Thai of 5 is "ha". So. 555 is texto-language for ha-ha-ha.[/QUOTE]But don't use it when chatting with a Chinese: for them the sound of "5" is more like crying.
for Songkran. Will reopen on the 21st.
[QUOTE=Mahal; 1407789]For my first night in Pats on this trip I hooked up with beautiful Saa at Casnovy. Saa is almost 6ft tall and likes to wear heels which can make her look like a giraffe, she is quite a treat to parade into the streets of Pats. She is also a social person who likes to go out and be the center of attention, yet she is far from pretentious and really quite a simple and honest girl. That is why I like her, even though in bed she is very far from PSE.
I barfine Saa and she makes me wait so she can bring her friends along to I-Bar, I buy a bottle or red label and pretty soon I have 5 girls around me for the night. When I-Bar closed we moved upstairs where I bought another bottle and now everybody loves me and cuddling and kissing. When Insomnia closed we went to that nearby bar that has pool tables where partygoers end up at the wee hours of the morning, I forgot the name. Bought another bottle. There was almost a bar fight between one of "my" girls and an outsider, something about the other girl using profusely whatever the equivalent of the F word is in Thai. Saa calmed things down (she could easily have knocked that other girl out if she wanted to) and we went for breakfast, then the girls decided to go swimming near the Hilton.
Here we are at 8AM. 5 drunk girls in night gowns and high heels and me, singing in the baht bus and on the way to the beach, where everybody was thrown in the water with their clothes on, kind of. I have not had that much fun in a long time. We had lunch on the beach and it was just the coolest moment. The make up was gone, the BS was gone, just 5 simple girls still wearing their disco artifacts in the sunlight.
Took Saa back to my room around 1PM, the other girls went their own way. We slept and she insisted I fuck her (her words) before she left around 8PM to go home and then back to the club. The damage? Quite bad I think. Maybe 15K including 4K to Saa (= LT barfine) and some unaccounted for amount, that is what happens when you drink too much. Do I regret it, hell no!
I like one of Saa's friends but it could be delicate to barfine her instead of Saa, who is kind of a GFE type or likes to appear as such. Of course she is a pro she'll get over it in a second, but I don't like to damage my relationship with her. Yet I do like this other girl! Let's see what happens.[/QUOTE]Great story my friend, and for the 15k that's nothing. In Europe you would pay the same just for 2 hours with a girl hehe.
Believe me, I am not trying to be a wise guy, just amazed at your analysis. Of course the beach road girls are going to want short time. Simple formula, boom boom x customer x bhat. Not rocket science.
I talked to one gal, rather heavy set, who told me she made an average of 2500 to 3000 bhat a night servicing primarily Indian customers. After we talked, got up to leave and guess who sat down next to her.
[QUOTE=Priamos;1409340]Perhaps someone can help me solve the following mystery. I've visited Patts a few times and, being a daytime monger, I prefer bars and the street to discotheques. In my experience, if you approach a bar girl (even a waitress in some places) in the late afternoon or early evening and ask if she's available long-time until the next morning, mostly she will jump into your arms and exclaim "YES, my big honey!". However, on the Beach Road, if you ask a girl the same question she will usually drop her shoulders and moan "Oh, bad luck. He wants LT." Has anybody else noticed this difference? And, if so, why is that?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HenryV; 1409996]Believe me, I am not trying to be a wise guy, just amazed at your analysis. Of course the beach road girls are going to want short time. Simple formula, boom boom x customer x bhat. Not rocket science.
I talked to one gal, rather heavy set, who told me she made an average of 2500 to 3000 bhat a night servicing primarily Indian customers. After we talked, got up to leave and guess who sat down next to her.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure many, if not most, of the beach road girls go for days without customers. You are right regarding heavy women though. While I don't care for them, there are plenty of guys for which that is their type. I was talking to a bar owner about this. I asked why he had a fat dancer, because I figured she'd not get many customers. He said that she is one of the most popular in the club. Also, I remember this Korean guy from years ago. He was really in shape, not an ounce of fat and washboard abs. He loved fat women, and I'm not talking about thick either, I mean full on fat.
The better looking girls know there is a good chance they can get another customer when they go back to the street, but the lesser attractive know they won't. Sometimes, the girl wants to leave simply because they are hungry. After they got some cash in their pocket, they head for the noodle stand.
[QUOTE=RBDave;1410055]You are right regarding heavy women though. While I don't care for them, there are plenty of guys for which that is their type. I was talking to a bar owner about this. I asked why he had a fat dancer, because I figured she'd not get many customers. He said that she is one of the most popular in the club.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I assume this must be a Pattaya specific phenomenon? A classic supply-demand mismatch. I remember once in BKK (Soi Cowboy) when I got in a strange BBW-loving mood. I went into a gogo and sat down. After a while the mamasan asked me why I was not interested in her beautiful girls. I said quietly that I "prefer round girls". She beamed and yelled a command into the backroom. After 60 seconds I was surrounded by a handful of fat waitresses (several of whom I had not seen on the floor) , smiling and giggling and slobbering over me. I was clearly not the first client to ask that question, and they were ready to deliver. I have not come across that in Patts so, as I said, it must be a case of a certain demand and almost no supply.
ok, since you guys are the best friends i've ever had, will let you in a few of my secrets after spending over two months in pattaya.
two months is enough time. i do feel that it's time to leave; work hard, play hard. best to leave wanting more. spoke to one guy who despises pattaya. hates the girls, and hates everything about the place. he's lived there years, and now burned out. if he left the country after each two / three months, he may still love it. personally, can't wait to return.
ok, to the words of advice.
there are places which have smoothies at 40 to 65 baht. have them cut the fruit in front of you. no sugar! carry your own 7/11 water with you, and have them add it. the ice round, not chipped. personal favorite is a mix of pineapple and dragon fruit.
subway sandwich. they have a daily 69 baht special. all good, except for the chili chicken and ham / chicken. cheap and pretty nutritious.
those chicken stands which sell chicken thigh and drumstick for 40 baht. cheap. protein. and while there, grab some gal who is walking by. but be careful, one place literally had cockroaches crawling on the chicken. the woman cooking was completely unconcerned too. then again, this is a country which eats bugs as a snack. i've seen kitchens at even expensive restaurants in pattaya, and some are beyond words disgusting. always watch them preparing the food, if possible. and no pepper / salt / crap on the chicken; they completely drown it in that poison.
suitcases. recall it's either sio 12 or 14, north on 2nd road. there's a suitcase place at the corner. no, not that one. now go north a few stores. that one. always great prices there. then check everywhere else in pattaya, including the night bizarre (north on 2nd a bit opposite side of road). then return and buy. do not negotiate price since you're getting the correct price. they always give me great pries, but it could be since they know me, so ymmv.
scams: i sensed one gal tried to steal from me. i tossed her out immediately after the deed. one guy from india came to me. looked like some type of swami or something: 'you will live a long life. do you know why? ' popper: 'no. ' and walked away. twice, a farang (both times different people) approached me and wanted something or tried to drag me somewhere. sensed something wrong, and walked away. those of you who walk pattaya drunk are just begging for trouble, and you'll will find it.
girls: i would say that outside of that one, worst girl problem was a rare non-performer. most of the girls were amazingly nice. others just loved sex and very orgasmic. that said, always locked up valuables. personally i place things in the safe, and in the locked suitcase, ideally inside a locked closet.
health: had a rash, about an inch away from little popper. antibiotics cleared it up. also, got teeth cleaned (800 to 1400 baht) and corrected misc general health issues. health care in the usa is the most expensive in the world, perhaps by a factor of higher than ten. heck, that rash back in the states would have cost me over $200 between seeing a doctor, medication, etc. in thailand just asked the pharm, and total cost was 200 baht for cipro. gee i wonder which system is better.
total number of total bar fines: (ummm let me calculate. add five plus seven, times two, carry the three, to the third power. got it.) total number: zero. none. zippo. zilch. nix. bar fines are for fools. or are you proud to purchase snow in antarctica. not to mention the time wasted, overpriced drinks, lds, and mindnumbingly idiotic conversations ('whad you name', 'where you flom', 'you pray connect 4', 'how wrong you lib in pattaya', etc.)
price for st: 700 to 800, however last few nights after searching for over an hour i gave in and one time agreed to 900 and other 1000 baht. but those gals were super pretty, and damn i got lucky with them. absolute performers and keepers.
price for massages: 800 to 1000.
price for soi six / [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] (when they were open) /bliss, etc. 900 – 1200, and includes a room.
methodology: spot gal. eye contact. smile. hold out hand slightly. let her grab it. 'i love you' 'will you marry me' 'you're the love of my life' 'you're the girl of my dreams' etc. play with them. hold their hand and playfully swing back and forth. kiss their cheek. 'how much you want for short time. ' (always let her give the first price. if she says 2000 baht, counter with 20 baht and let her walk away. if she says 700 or less, accept, if you want her. if she says 1000) 'i love you 700 baht. ' play with them more. swing their hands more. play with their hair. gaze deep in their eyes. 'you see that bar over there. i buy it for you. ' 'you see that car over there. i buy it for you mama and papa. ' 'you see the ocean, i buy for you. ' if still resistance to 700 baht 'i love you 800 baht. '
number of times: 1. 5 gals a day. last two days increased to three gals each day. needed vit c to help out, esp at the end. have a friend back in the states, married. she was pretty cute back college, but after two kids weight tripled, and her tits, stomach, butt now as one. he is faithful and bangs three times a year, and if you saw her, you'd understand why. i had as many as, and more in a day than he, and many americans do in a year.
biggest lie told the girls. 'don't worry, i won't cum in your mouth. '
number of butt sex: three times. last time i stuck it partly in her butt. gal: 'how much you give me? ' popper '20 baht' and shoved little popper in (see the third picture of gal in shower with a nice rack). most gals reluctant to do butt sex.
funniest moment. saw this muslim, large, hairy, turbine, walking into this st hotel with an obvious lady boy. it was huge, tall with huge tits, butt, overly madeup. hummmm. suspect many of those xtn ultra-fundamentalists w / magnanimous 'family values' and oppose gay marriage do the same thing. but who am i to judge.
funniest bar girl line: gal: 'you give me tip' popper (while smiling) : 'i gave you three orgasms. that's your tip, and you owe me a tip for all your orgasms. ' gal: 'i only had two orgasms. the last one was faked. '
lesson learned. each trip i learn something different. this time, as soon as i walk in hotel room i say to gal 'you want to watch sexy movie. ' (now, i am certain that you are all just shocked, shocked, shocked that i have some porn.) just grab one w / a white male and asian f. the gal is often fascinated. keep in mind however that i do not know laws about carrying porn in us airports. tsa are thugs, criminals who have yet to capture even one terrorist, and never will. they harass the good, honest, americans over a pirate madonna song, carrying vit c, porn, cipro, any prescript medication for personal use bought abroad for a tenth of us prices, etc and if caught you may get detained for few hours and put on a list which will haunt you all your life.
telephone bar: never made it. if anyone makes it there, tell the owner that his fb map sucks.
now back leading the 'respectable life', whatever that is. thinking summer a manila / cebu or ac, or bali. uncertain. will make it back to pattaya.
--popper
[QUOTE=Popper1; 1410494]. Play with their hair.
Biggest lie told the girls. 'Don't worry, I won't cum in your mouth. '
I believe you must be very proud of your lies to the girls. Just hope she doesn't pay back by having a buttplug in her hands and she promises "don't worry, I will not insert it in you, I don't even have KY with me"
Number of butt sex: three times. Last time I stuck it partly in her butt. Gal: 'How much you give me? ' Popper '20 baht' and shoved Little Popper in (see the third picture of gal in shower with a nice rack). Most gals reluctant to do butt sex.
Funniest moment. Saw this Muslim, large, hairy, turbine, walking into this ST hotel with an obvious lady boy. It was huge, tall with huge tits, butt, overly madeup. Hummmm. Suspect many of those Xtn ultra-fundamentalists w / magnanimous 'family values' and oppose gay marriage do the same thing. But who am I to judge.
Funniest bar girl line: Gal: 'You give me tip' Popper (while smiling) : 'I gave you three orgasms. That's your tip, and you owe me a tip for all your orgasms. ' Gal: 'I only had two orgasms. The last one was faked. '
-Popper[/QUOTE]A big "no-no" in Thai culture is play with Thai girl hairs or head (unless in bed) , so that shows your expertize.
Forcing a girl into butt sex will help in generating their bad attitude against rude farangs: the mongering community thanks.
How do you know an Arab is automatically an ultra-fundamentalist? Better you do not judge, so far all "your" attempts to bring your democracy elsewhere where conducted without caring at democracy. You mainly fed the extremists.
Despite your "I am Mister Know All", you have been cheated on the number of orgasms you brought her to. Maybe she has been generous and didn't tell the truth: the orgasms maybe were none, but she knows how to titillate the ego of farangs like you.
[QUOTE=Popper1;1410494].Methodology: Spot gal. Eye contact. Smile. Hold out hand slightly. Let her grab it. 'I love you' 'Will you marry me' 'You're the love of my life' 'You're the girl of my dreams' etc. Play with them. Hold their hand and playfully swing back and forth. Kiss their cheek. 'How much you want for short time. ' (Always let her give the first price. If she says 2000 baht, counter with 20 baht and let her walk away. If she says 700 or less, accept, if you want her. If she says 1000) 'I love you 700 baht. ' Play with them more. Swing their hands more. Play with their hair. Gaze deep in their eyes. 'You see that bar over there. I buy it for you. ' 'You see that car over there. I buy it for you mama and papa. ' 'You see the ocean, I buy for you. ' If still resistance to 700 baht 'I love you 800 baht. ' .[/QUOTE]Nice read, and a LOT of info. Seriously, often read through several pages of posts and their combined actual useful information won't add up to the amount in this one post. In quoting I cut most of it out except for 1 section, as in it I appreciated hearing experience on what kinda game people throw at the TG's. Some may argue it's not needed, but p4p or not, women are women and knowing how to talk to them can definitely help get a better price / attitude / overall experience for sure.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1410541]How do you know an Arab is automatically an ultra-fundamentalist? Better you do not judge, so far all "your" attempts to bring your democracy elsewhere where conducted without caring at democracy. You mainly fed the extremists.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Popper1;1410494]Funniest moment. Saw this Muslim, large, hairy, turbine, walking into this ST hotel with an obvious lady boy. It was huge, tall with huge tits, butt, overly madeup. Hummmm. Suspect many of those Xtn ultra-fundamentalists w / magnanimous 'family values' and oppose gay marriage do the same thing. But who am I to judge.[/QUOTE]FYI, Muslims don't wear turbines. Did he also have a beard? He probably was a Sikh.
Sir, you are an embarrasment to your culture. A "turban" (bulle or dastar) is ordinarily worn by Sik. One of the most kindest and accepting groups I have ever met. You need to do more reading and less of pulling comments out of you ass.
[QUOTE=Popper1; 1410494]OK, since you guys are the best friends I've ever had, will let you in a few of my secrets after spending over two months in Pattaya.
Funniest moment. Saw this Muslim, large, hairy, turbine, walking into this ST hotel with an obvious lady boy. It was huge, tall with huge tits, butt, overly madeup. Hummmm. Suspect many of those Xtn ultra-fundamentalists w / magnanimous 'family values' and oppose gay marriage do the same thing. But who am I to judge.
Funniest bar girl line: Gal: 'You give me tip' Popper (while smiling) : 'I gave you three orgasms. That's your tip, and you owe me a tip for all your orgasms. ' Gal: 'I only had two orgasms. The last one was faked. '
Lesson learned. Each trip I learn something different. This time, as soon as I walk in hotel room I say to gal 'You want to watch sexy movie. ' (Now, I am certain that you are all just shocked, shocked, shocked that I have some porn.) Just grab one w / a White male and Asian F. The gal is often fascinated. Keep in mind however that I do not know laws about carrying porn in US airports. TSA are thugs, criminals who have yet to capture even one terrorist, and never will. They harass the good, honest, Americans over a pirate Madonna song, carrying Vit C, porn, Cipro, any prescript medication for personal use bought abroad for a tenth of US prices, etc and if caught you may get detained for few hours and put on a list which will haunt you all your life.
Telephone Bar: Never made it. If anyone makes it there, tell the owner that his FB map sucks.
Now back leading the 'respectable life', whatever that is. Thinking summer a Manila / Cebu or AC, or Bali. Uncertain. Will make it back to Pattaya.
-Popper[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1410619]FYI, Muslims don't wear turbines.[/QUOTE]Amazing, those miniaturized wearable turbines. Still, they must put quite a strain on the neck.
Back to the topic of sex and Pattaya, a quick report on Beach Road. After a few terrible months, it seems to have somewhat recovered lately. No crackdown, good number of girls, and 500 baht note still works fine (some may insist on more, but it's easy to move on). Quality is not amazing, as always, but there are diamonds in the rough.
Contrary to common experience, had a part-timer who's passing by, not a hardened hooker (I think she's a freelancer in Bangkok, sampling Pattaya). We settled on "short time for 500, and then let's see how it goes"... her newness showing in the "so 500 is the price here, huh" comment (in Thai). She ended up staying until 10 am the next day, very GFE. Gave her 1400, bit much, but I like them this way. Now, how do I get her to stop calling?
I love the occasional "maybe she's not really a hooker (although I know she is)" experience. Used to be quite common in both Bangkok and Pattaya only a few short years back, but these days it's not so common. Willful suspension of disbelief is getting harder too.
Guys, popper gave great reports, great advice and great information to the rest of us who read here. Why do people have to make issues about his observations or comments. WTF. We are all supposedly here to give information and help each other get what we wanted by joining this forum not making snide comments about someone telling us what is important to know. Get a life.
[QUOTE=Popper1; 1410494]. Total number of total bar fines: Total Number: ZERO. None. Zippo. Zilch. Nix. Bar fines are for fools. Or are you proud to purchase snow in Antarctica. Not to mention the time wasted, overpriced drinks, LDs, and mindnumbingly idiotic conversations ('whad you name', 'where you flom', 'you pray connect 4', 'how wrong you lib in Pattaya', etc.).
Price for ST: 700 to 800, however last few nights after searching for over an hour I gave in and one time agreed to 900 and other 1000 baht. But those gals were super pretty, and damn I got lucky with them. Absolute performers and keepers. Popper[/QUOTE]Hey Popper! Nice report! That's quite an achievement not having to pay any bar fines, which "are for fools" in your opinion. And I'm happy for you that you believe your conquests were "super pretty," but if your idea of super pretty is the type of girl in your photos, I don't think that many mongers here, especially fools like me, will agree, although sometimes on rare occasions a pretty young gem might be found on Beach Road. It is possible.
Sure you can get those types of street hookers all over Pattaya any time you like day or night for 500 baht ST or even less, but if you want anything approaching quality in the looks department, I. E. A really pretty girl, you just might have to pay a lot more than 500 and perhaps a bar fine from time to time, at least once to get to know the girl and get her phone number for future dates sans bar fine. Or you might find a really pretty girl on the street to play your game with, (I think your little game is a good idea, BTW) but believe me, she's going to want more than 500-800 baht.
Many times I get pretty girls in go-go bars to give me their cell numbers and agree to meet me before work which avoids bar fines, but I still have to pay them at least 1000 baht for short time, often more, but it's worth it.
Looks like Popper1, is all mixed up? Another redneck mentality calling others fools about not paying barfines and then clearly omitting he paid a Barfine and 900 at that! Can't tell a Muslim from a Sik, and most likely will visit the Phil and think he is in Thailand? One wonders from his reports what is true and what isn't?
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1410619]FYI, Muslims don't wear turbines.[/QUOTE]Popper probably did get mixed up there, but I have to be picky for a moment.
Some Muslims do wear a turban, albeit in various names / forms.
Granted, more of a Central Asia thing (Afghanistan, etc).
But on the Arabian Peninsula the Yemenis and Omanis have their own form and also clerics in Iran.
Anyway, back to to the Pussy!
[QUOTE=HenryV;1410653]Sir, you are an embarrasment to your culture. A "turban" (bulle or dastar) is ordinarily worn by Sik. One of the most kindest and accepting groups I have ever met. You need to do more reading and less of pulling comments out of you ass.[/QUOTE]Well, some Shia muslims, affiliated with religious orders, wear turbans. So do many of the Pashtuns in the tribal areas of Pakistan and Afghanistan. But, I agree, one would not expect to meet any of those in downtown Pattaya. 555!
I understand that some posters are riled by popper's condescending style, but I think you have misunderstood his mongering tactic. It's not about picking beach road girls (which could be done for 500B per pop) , but about picking 700B girls off the street. It looks to me like the girls he picks up a bar workers, who'd normally be for sale for 500B ST on a slow day. The barfine he saves is then shared with the girl in the form of a slight premium on her fee.
Will be visiting Pattaya in early June for first time since June 2009, and this time I am not stopping in Bangkok first. I am staying in Walking Street area, but I need to buy a prepaid sim card for my cell phone. I believe I used 1-2-call AIS last time in Pattaya. Is their service ok in Pattaya and Bangkok now for calls and text? If so, where is the best place near the baht bus line to buy a ppd 1-2-call sim?
I will be taveling very light coming to Thailand, so also wondering where to pick up decent shorts and golf shirts. I seem to remember lots of open market shops between 2nd and third streets around the soi 6 to soi 8 area that were ok for shopping, but I'd like to monger and shop at the same time. Any recommendations?
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Priamos; 1410838]Well, some Shia muslims, affiliated with religious orders, wear turbans. So do many of the Pashtuns in the tribal areas of Pakistan and Afghanistan. But, I agree, one would not expect to meet any of those in downtown Pattaya. 555!
I understand that some posters are riled by popper's condescending style, but I think you have misunderstood his mongering tactic. It's not about picking beach road girls (which could be done for 500B per pop) , but about picking 700B girls off the street. It looks to me like the girls he picks up a bar workers, who'd normally be for sale for 500B ST on a slow day. The barfine he saves is then shared with the girl in the form of a slight premium on her fee.[/QUOTE]So what is your explanation for him calling others "FOOLS FOR PAYING BAR FINES" and then goes and pay 900 BF HIMSELF? No one is complaining about his style picking up girls from Beach Road or any other road for whatever price he wants to pay?
LBM
[QUOTE=Loxfun;1410722]Guys, popper gave great reports, great advice and great information to the rest of us who read here. Why do people have to make issues about his observations or comments. WTF. We are all supposedly here to give information and help each other get what we wanted by joining this forum not making snide comments about someone telling us what is important to know. Get a life.[/QUOTE]No one is giving him a hard time, I think Popper can pretty much take it and give it? But your comments regarding his is it works both ways here if your observation and then comments are making snide comments about others who might choose to pay B. F. Which is their choice no different than his not too. I think It's surprises me over and over again that others who join here like yourself only think about one thing and anything other than that one thing we are being unfair! I see and hear lots of short time mongers and long time that seem to like to criticize and seem to know all the answers but when they are challenged they cry foul and try to make other feel guilty for doing so I end by saying WTF too!
LBM
Great report Popper, thanks!
[QUOTE=Popper1; 1410494]OK, since you guys are the best friends I've ever had, will let you in a few of my secrets after spending over two months in Pattaya.
Those chicken stands which sell chicken thigh and drumstick for 40 baht. Cheap. Protein. And while there, grab some gal who is walking by. But be careful, one place literally had cockroaches crawling on the chicken. The woman cooking was completely unconcerned too. Then again, this is a country which eats bugs as a snack. I've seen kitchens at even expensive restaurants in Pattaya, and some are beyond words disgusting. Always watch them preparing the food, if possible. And no pepper / salt / crap on the chicken; they completely drown it in that poison.
-Popper[/QUOTE]Well. Move to S-E Asia and you will stop to care of cockroaches after 2-3 years living here.
[QUOTE=IamJohnGalt; 1411213]but I need to buy a prepaid sim card for my cell phone. I believe I used 1-2-call AIS last time in Pattaya.
Cheers![/QUOTE]I recommend true move as they give overall much better service-1. 5 bt to us and europe and in Thailand.
Many times they hand them out free at airports, other wise 50 bt for the sim card. Top up at 7'11.
[QUOTE=Islandboy54; 1411336]I recommend true move as they give overall much better service-1. 5 bt to us and europe and in Thailand.
Many times they hand them out free at airports, other wise 50 bt for the sim card. Top up at 7'11.[/QUOTE]Thanks Islandboy.
By better service do you mean stronger, more reliable signal?
Looks like (from their website) that they have coverage in Bangkok and Pattaya, and that's all I need for this trip AFAIK.
Where in Pattaya can I buy the sim card (in case they aren't giving them away at the airport)?
Cheers!
[QUOTE=IamJohnGalt; 1411492]Thanks Islandboy.
By better service do you mean stronger, more reliable signal?
Looks like (from their website) that they have coverage in Bangkok and Pattaya, and that's all I need for this trip AFAIK.
Where in Pattaya can I buy the sim card (in case they aren't giving them away at the airport)?
Cheers![/QUOTE]Better overall value-no need to get into all the details-good connectivity.cheapest overall especially when calling abroad-no need to refill when you still have credit-and no, I don't get kickbacks.
Not sure where to buy one in pats.but if they don't have it at seven eleven then they will have a store in that huge shopping mall.
I think it's called festival, or at big C etc.
[QUOTE=IamJohnGalt;1411492]Where in Pattaya can I buy the sim card (in case they aren't giving them away at the airport)?[/QUOTE]IslandBoy: Thanks for the advice, I'll try True Move next time I need a SIM card. I've been using "TH GSM" (comes in green packaging) for B 100 / card because I heard it was the best cellphone reception / connection but they usually expire in 60 days from last "top-off" (additional pre-paid minutes loaded).
IamJohn:
- Family Mart & 7-11 generally does not carry SIM cards but they do have "top-off" available to reload your SIM account.
- During the daytime you can purchase a SIM card at the malls (Central Festival attached to the Hilton, Big C, The Avenue outdoor mall, Royal Garden Plaza attached to the Marriott, Tukcom electronics mall) , just go in the mall and ask any employee "where can I buy SIM card for my mobile?" and the employee will point you to the mobile zone (where there will be a bunch of small vendors / kiosks selling SIMs, used cellphones, etc).
- You can try the airport cellphone kiosk which probably sells SIM cards with the mark-up being negligible; instead of B 100 it might cost B 150.
- On WS (Walking Street) in the late afternoon & nighttime there are at least 2 vendors. One vendor with a small glass display case on WS just past the entrance, left-side. There's a mobile store on WS Soi 15, just to the left of Beach AGoGo, and they're open 6 (?) pm until 2 am.
Has anybody read Money Number One by Neil Hutchison? It's suppose to a good read on Pattaya. I'm considering my first visit to Thailand later in June or July.
YP
Funny, for years on my arrival I would go to 7-11 and get a sim card. Would even tip them 50 bhat for putting it in and testing.
That said, has anyone out there ever bought a knock off unlocked cell phone in Pattaya. Was at the large cell phone, communications store (South Pattaya Tai Road) on my last trip and saw quite a bit of them. A lot of gals I talked with told me they work just fine.
[QUOTE=Amex Spg; 1411698]IslandBoy: Thanks for the advice, I'll try True Move next time I need a SIM card. I've been using "TH GSM" (comes in green packaging) for B 100 / card because I heard it was the best cellphone reception / connection but they usually expire in 60 days from last "top-off" (additional pre-paid minutes loaded).
- Family Mart & 7-11 generally does not carry SIM cards but they do have "top-off" available to reload your SIM account.
[QUOTE=Yellowpaul;1411706]Has anybody read Money Number One by Neil Hutchison? It's suppose to a good read on Pattaya. I'm considering my first visit to Thailand later in June or July.[/QUOTE]Yes. I enjoyed all of his books.
Thanks to all who responded to my questions on getting a sim card in Pattaya.
Its been 4 years since I last visited Pattaya, but looking forward to being there in early May.
I am arriving about 830pm at BKK airport (if on time) with no checked bags and I plan to take the 389 Airport-Pattaya bus.
I see it goes to North Pattaya bus station at that hour and likely arrives around midnight.
Anyone have experience with this bus and station that late?
Is it safe and are tuktuks available to get to Walking St, Soi BJ area?
(I realize its walking only on Walking St at that hour.)
Cheers
[QUOTE=Amex Spg; 1411698]I.
- Family Mart & 7-11 generally does not carry SIM cards but they do have "top-off" available to reload your SIM account.[/QUOTE]7-11 at the airport does sell Sim cards. I buy one twice a year from the same 7-11.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1411909]7-11 at the airport does sell Sim cards. I buy one twice a year from the same 7-11.[/QUOTE]I can confirm the 7-11 at BKK sells SIMS and at better prices than that large booth with the 3 main cell vendors at arrrivals. The 7-11 is a level or two below the main arrivals floor. I also use 1-2-call. I'm hoping to bring an unlocked Galaxy S4 with me next fall. When I insert the Thai SIM will I need to change phone settings to get the internet. This will be my first smartphone in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Allover;1412335]I can confirm the 7-11 at BKK sells SIMS and at better prices than that large booth with the 3 main cell vendors at arrrivals. The 7-11 is a level or two below the main arrivals floor. I also use 1-2-call. I'm hoping to bring an unlocked Galaxy S4 with me next fall. When I insert the Thai SIM will I need to change phone settings to get the internet. This will be my first smartphone in Thailand.[/QUOTE]No adjustments to be made. Just put the SIM card in and follow the instructions to activate it.[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1411909]7-11 at the airport does sell Sim cards. I buy one twice a year from the same 7-11.[/QUOTE]If you get True Move you will not have to buy another. The number keeps for 1 year after the last addition of minutes.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1412354]No adjustments to be made. Just put the SIM card in and follow the instructions to activate it.If you get True Move you will not have to buy another. The number keeps for 1 year after the last addition of minutes.[/QUOTE]I bought a phone at Tesco that I use only in Thailand.
As you say, I just keep reloading it.
But, I also have AT&T Smartphone.
When I insert any of the 7-11 sims in my Smartphone they do not work. It tells me my phone is not compatible.
I am sort of surprised it does not work. Both AT&T and T-Mobile (my USA carrier) both use GSM as does Thailand. Did you have your AT & T smartphone 'unlocked' by talking to AT&T customer support (which in its self is not a happy experience).
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1412432]I bought a phone at Tesco that I use only in Thailand.
As you say, I just keep reloading it.
But, I also have AT&T Smartphone.
When I insert any of the 7-11 sims in my Smartphone they do not work. It tells me my phone is not compatible.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jgm005;1412449]I am sort of surprised it does not work. Both AT&T and T-Mobile (my USA carrier) both use GSM as does Thailand. Did you have your AT & T smartphone 'unlocked' by talking to AT&T customer support (which in its self is not a happy experience).[/QUOTE]Yes, I unlocked it before.
So, I have no idea.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1412451]Yes, I unlocked it before.
So, I have no idea.[/QUOTE]Its been a few years, but I used an unlocked T-mobile phone (an old Windows Mobile smartphone) my first trip to Thailand with no problems, then on 2nd trip used an HTC Touch Diamond smartphone that I bought in Australia. I continued to use that Aussie HTC on T-mobile when I returned to the US, too. What smartphone is yours, LuvPuss? Maybe its something about that model? I have an HTC HD2 (bought in NZ) that I hope to use next month.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1412432]I bought a phone at Tesco that I use only in Thailand.
As you say, I just keep reloading it.
But, I also have AT&T Smartphone.
When I insert any of the 7-11 sims in my Smartphone they do not work. It tells me my phone is not compatible.[/QUOTE]I'm no expert by any means, but the phone might not have the band compatibility? I took a phone I got here in Thailand, Samsung Galaxy why, I have T-mobile pay as you go in the USA and when I was home recently I stuck my T-mobile sim into the Samsung and had no problem calling back to Thailand.
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1412592]I'm no expert by any means, but the phone might not have the band compatibility? I took a phone I got here in Thailand, Samsung Galaxy why, I have T-mobile pay as you go in the USA and when I was home recently I stuck my T-mobile sim into the Samsung and had no problem calling back to Thailand.
LBM[/QUOTE]Mine is a Samsung.
I don't know. I hate AT&T and can't wait for my contract to expire so I can go with someone else.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1412354]If you get True Move you will not have to buy another. The number keeps for 1 year after the last addition of minutes.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mr. E, I will get that one next time!
now back in 'real life'; however, need clarify a few items.
[quote=daddy07;1410740]sure you can get those types of street hookers all over pattaya any time you like day or night for 500 baht st or even less, but if you want anything approaching quality in the looks department, i. e. a really pretty girl, you just might have to pay a lot more than 500 and perhaps a bar fine from time to time, at least once to get to know the girl and get her phone number for future dates sans bar fine. or you might find a really pretty girl on the street to play your game with, (i think your little game is a good idea, btw) but believe me, she's going to want more than 500-800 baht.[/quote]am reluctant to use term 'street hookers' to describe many of these gals. many of them head to pattaya from all over thailand just to experience a good time with a farang. i've had gals who spend few days in pattaya, from bkk, chang mai, change rai, or wherever, and they just want some fun cause they're managed to get away from home and just horny. i've had gals who work ft at mcdonald's, banks, work front desk at hotels, sell condos, clothes, airline tickets, whatever, and they too just want some extra cash, and perhaps some fun. also found gals living in pattaya taking a day off from their go-go, bar-beer, in between jobs, whatever. it's a wide spectrum, which personally i like.
[quote=daddy07;1410740]many times i get pretty girls in go-go bars to give me their cell numbers and agree to meet me before work which avoids bar fines, but i still have to pay them at least 1000 baht for short time, often more, but it's worth it.[/quote]done that. however, now no longer buy lds, but just give them cash 50 to 100 baht. am subcommunicating to them that i know the game. used to do sneakouts; this trip didn't. walked into a few go-gos, just to take a break from that darn heat, and ordered coffee or ice tea. imo the go-go gals i saw were as pretty as many which i found. of course, personally like variety.
[quote=littlebigman;1410759]can't tell a muslim from a sik, and most likely will visit the phil and think he is in thailand? one wonders from his reports what is true and what isn't?[/quote]point taken. yes, the truth is that at times i also mix up apples and oranges. and lbm, i could care less if you believe my posts or not.
[quote=littlebigman; 1411230]no one is complaining about his style picking up girls from beach road or any other road for whatever price he wants to pay?
lbm[/quote]highly doubtful they're from br. each day i'd walked up and down br and not once found a gal who i had. not that there is anything wrong with br, but my methodology pretty much filters them out. this since i only grab 'moving busses' and avoid 'standing busses' (anyone who doesn't understand those terms, i defined them previously so rtff). also none of my gals go for 500 baht, unlike only a few years ago. if a gal looks desperate or approaches me, the answer is an absolute no. those type girls can be real trouble.
[quote=littlebigman;1411230]so what is your explanation for him calling others "fools for paying bar fines" and then goes and pay 900 bf himself?[/quote]here you have erred. as stated clearly, have not paid a bar fine to any go-go or bar beer this two month trip. have not paid a pattaya bar fine since figure 2004 or 2005. three times paid the gal 1000 baht, once 900 baht. outside of those, no more than 800 be when using my method. if i allowed them to stay all night, gave them 400 to 500 baht more. figuring over 60 percent of gals gave me their cell number after the deed, but i usually tossed it. guessing a dozen on my cell, including those three 3-holers who are now in my permanent rotation.
this trip estimate that i had about 85 to 95 times with gals. about once a week went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], golden girls, bliss, etc. bit less than that did a soi 6. more than a few massages too. the rest i found on my own, and not once used a bar beers or go-gos for gals, but found more than a few of my gals in 7/11s, baht busses, the chicken stands, and just around town.
overall, it was not a bad two month break.
next trip, july or august, leaning towards manila and then cebu. cebu gals are really nice, and biggest tits in asia, except perhaps jakarta (as far as i know, anyone know of a better place for big asian hooters?). second choice if i get lazy is manila and ac. then again if i can get more cash, i'll head to my dream destiny: cuba.
peace, bababuwi, and out.
--popper
I can see why you name yourself Popper! Maybe you should write a book and call it " I'm a Real Man?
Yes I err on the Barfine, but from your report why is it o.k. for you to do what you want to do and yet feel others who don't conform to your method are Fools!
You go on and on with quotes but gloss over what started this topic in the first place. Personally there are people who don't want to walk for a hour searching? have you ever thought about that and maybe others like us think you are the one that is a fool? Try to grow up and try to learn how to respect others as to what they want to do with their time and money in Pattaya.
LBM
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1407658]I have been with this girl for 1 1/2 days. Cute as a button. 1000 B for 24 hours. Full GFE. I cum in her mouth pussy and asshole.
She is super nice. One of my better catches. She has the cleanest asshole and pussy I have every seen. I love licking her asshole then fucking it good. Young Isaan pussy who wants to please.
We have been at the pool a lot. I bought her a bikini with Gstring on ass. All the dudes are drulling. HAHA. Pattaya is better than ever for me.[/QUOTE]Can you may PM contact Details?
Thanks in advance
Luvpuss:
Are you sure the phone is unlocked? It should have worked.
[QUOTE=Ralf Hong;1412967]Can you may PM contact Details?Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]A good way to get PM's is to subscribe, otherwise your wishes remain desires.
Hi!
Going to Pattaya from April 26 to 29 and my wingman canceled his trip.
Looking for a fellow monger to share a few drinks during that weekend.
PM me if you're there around that time.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Beijing Lover; 1413237]Hi!
Going to Pattaya from April 26 to 29 and my wingman canceled his trip.
Looking for a fellow monger to share a few drinks during that weekend.
PM me if you're there around that time.
Cheers![/QUOTE]The best wingman in Pattaya, is a wingwoman.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1413241]The best wingman in Pattaya, is a wingwoman.[/QUOTE]I have such a beast, and it's the perfect arrangement.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1413241]The best wingman in Pattaya, is a wingwoman.[/QUOTE]If you ask them politely I think you have a fair chance they will accept to share a beer with you. I have been told that some of these women are so shy that they do not want to be seen drinking in public and they come to your room to have a drink. Amazing Thailand! ;)
Hello,
Instead of going to the Beer Garden, why not go to the Bamboo Bar? Live Thai music. Loads of women. I am still trying to learn the ropes at the Bamboo Bar, but so far so good.
Spaceman
[QUOTE=AlLostInSpace13; 1414537]Hello,
Instead of going to the Beer Garden, why not go to the Bamboo Bar? Live Thai music. Loads of women. I am still trying to learn the ropes at the Bamboo Bar, but so far so good.
Spaceman[/QUOTE]Maybe wrong thread? Or are you running a taxi company ready to commute people from Beer Garden (Bangkok) to Bamboo bar (Pattaya)?
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1414650]Maybe wrong thread? Or are you running a taxi company ready to commute people from Beer Garden (Bangkok) to Bamboo bar (Pattaya)?[/QUOTE]I think he means the Pattaya Beer Garden which is right before Walking Street behind The Pier Beer Bars that has the boxing ring. [url]http://www.pattayabeergarden.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1414702]I think he means the Pattaya Beer Garden which is right before Walking Street behind The Pier Beer Bars that has the boxing ring.
[url]http://www.pattayabeergarden.com/[/url][/QUOTE]My fault, then. Wasn't aware that Beer Garden globalized! .
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Spent quite a bit of time in there, not much to learn.
Walk the room and, if you get a smile, or a gal uses her drink to toast with you, she's available.
Met a great gal who had a job at one of the condo's, we hooked up for about a week. Took her out to dinner a couple of times, and bar hopping. Great person.
Although it does not apply 100% of the time, once you hook up with a gal the friends she is with ordinarilly will not go with you. So select wisely. Another thing, went there every night for a couple of hours over a two week period. Came back about 7 months later and found a lot of the same gals literally sitting in the same area / place.
Last point, if you are serious dress up a little. I don't mean tie and tails, but I have found many gals there appear to avoid a guy with raggedy ass shorts and tank top. You know what I mean.
[QUOTE=AlLostInSpace13; 1414537]Hello,
Instead of going to the Beer Garden, why not go to the Bamboo Bar? Live Thai music. Loads of women. I am still trying to learn the ropes at the Bamboo Bar, but so far so good.
Spaceman[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1409377]Many of these girls have the mindset that they can make more money ST. It may be true of the better looking ones.[/QUOTE]
It is almost certainly true of most of the worse looking ones as well. I used to sit in the short time hotel lobby and see the same mediocre-looking but somehow slightly sexy 45 year old streetwalker go up time after time. One day we counted her going four times. Of course that was high season, but I observed her making (probably and presumably) 2000 baht in a few hours... why would anyone want to go all night and put up with someone's personality for hour after hour for 1000?
I know a lot of girls from the Beach Road who tell me they strongly dislike Long Time - after all, lets be fair guys, the [b]"3F"[/b] rule applies both ways - they don't enjoy hanging out with us any more than we do with them.
[QUOTE=Opebo; 1414867]It is almost certainly true of most of the worse looking ones as well. I used to sit in the short time hotel lobby and see the same mediocre-looking but somehow slightly sexy 45 year old streetwalker go up time after time. One day we counted her going four times. Of course that was high season, but I observed her making (probably and presumably) 2000 baht in a few hours. Why would anyone want to go all night and put up with someone's personality for hour after hour for 1000?
I know a lot of girls from the Beach Road who tell me they strongly dislike Long Time. After all, lets be fair guys, the [b]"3F"[/b] Rule applies both ways. They don't enjoy hanging out with us any more than we do with them.[/QUOTE]What, every girl I go with loves me!
Haha. Just joking.
Your last paragraph is so true.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1414867]It is almost certainly true of most of the worse looking ones as well. I used to sit in the short time hotel lobby[/QUOTE]There have been many times that I have used PS and have seen an older farang sitting in the lobby drinking beer and I have always wondered why. Care to explain?
[QUOTE=AlLostInSpace13; 1414537]Hello,
Instead of going to the Beer Garden, why not go to the Bamboo Bar? Live Thai music. Loads of women. I am still trying to learn the ropes at the Bamboo Bar, but so far so good.
Spaceman[/QUOTE][url]Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYKy9sBN0qI[/url]
Location?
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1414707]My fault, then. Wasn't aware that Beer Garden globalized! .[/QUOTE]No, one is spelled as Bier and the other Beer or is it the other way around?
LBM
[QUOTE=Noddy; 1415097][url]Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYKy9sBN0qI[/url]
Location?[/QUOTE]It is on South Pattaya Road, not far off Beach Road.
[QUOTE=Mahal;1407789]The damage? Quite bad I think. Maybe 15K including 4K to Saa (= LT barfine) and some unaccounted for amount, that is what happens when you drink too much.[/QUOTE]Whats there to be proud about you got played by a pro.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1414898]Your last paragraph is so true.[/QUOTE]Hey luvpuss – I've been following your posts and I must say you do tend to contradict yourself which makes me think twice about your reasons for contributing here? I know you have 1000 + posts and I don't have that many. I also know that I have pissed people off in the past and been placed in the sin bin by a few. But you just seem like a keyboard warrior and, if people are taking you seriously, they need to be aware of this.
Luvpuss said the following:
1. The best wingman in Pattaya, is a wingwoman.
2. Your last paragraph is so true
Number two relates to the following statement . 'I know a lot of girls from the Beach Road who tell me they strongly dislike Long Time. After all, lets be fair guys, the "3F" Rule applies both ways. They don't enjoy hanging out with us any more than we do with them. '
You're talking nonsense luvpuss. 1 minute you say the best wingman is a wingwomen and then you say you don't enjoy hanging out with the girls or they you. I enjoy hanging out with the girls and I hope they enjoy hanging out with me. I doubt if anyone enjoys hanging out with you.
But I have to ask why you are on the forum? Is it just a joke to you so you can make statements from time to time that contradict each other to confuse people who really have an interest in Pattaya?
For me I've been busy with a few Pattaya projects. I must say that doing business in this country harder than any other country I've done business. Making money in some countries is a piece of cake when compared to the challenges here. Every day there is something fucked up. Skilled workers, in other countries, just fix problems. No questions asked. Here, the same so called skilled workers, can't even see the problem let alone fix it and that makes me the bad guy for pointing it out. The idea seems to be. Do the job. Maybe to 80. Get paid. Walk away. A few weeks later come back. Fix the original job. Again not to 100. Get paid. Walk away. This seems to go on and on. Everything needs repairing because the work is never finished in the first, second and third place. So everyone keeps getting paid and paid and paid. Anyway I reiterate. Pattaya must be the hardest place in the world to do business.
Give it a go luvpuss and see how you get on (LOL).
[QUOTE=Priamos;1409340]Perhaps someone can help me solve the following mystery. I've visited Patts a few times and, being a daytime monger, I prefer bars and the street to discotheques. In my experience, if you approach a bar girl (even a waitress in some places) in the late afternoon or early evening and ask if she's available long-time until the next morning, mostly she will jump into your arms and exclaim "YES, my big honey!". However, on the Beach Road, if you ask a girl the same question she will usually drop her shoulders and moan "Oh, bad luck. He wants LT." Has anybody else noticed this difference? And, if so, why is that?[/QUOTE]I think I found the answer to my own question: a woman I've been chatting with on TLL (she's from Sattahip) told me that a large number of office and factory employees "moonlight" on Pattaya Beach Road. They are under tremendous pressure to send more and more money to their parents and love children back in Isaan, so extraordinary sources of income are tapped. Of course these girls have to be back at work the next morning, preferably reasonably well rested, and therefore are very unhappy about doing LT.
[QUOTE=Sangkid; 14154. I must say that doing business in this country harder than any other country I've done business. Every day there is something fucked up. Skilled workers, in other countries, just fix problems.
Here, the same so called skilled workers, can't even see the problem let alone fix it and that makes me the bad guy for pointing it out. The idea seems to be. Do the job. Get paid. Walk away. A few weeks later come back. Fix the original job. Again not to 100. Get paid. Walk away. This seems to go on and on. Everything needs repairing because the work is never finished in the first, second and third place. So everyone keeps getting paid and paid and paid. .
.[/QUOTE]Presumably you have yet to work in Philippines or China, where everything is as you describe. But worse. LOL.
[QUOTE=Priamos;1415905]I think I found the answer to my own question: a woman I've been chatting with on TLL (she's from Sattahip) told me that a large number of office and factory employees "moonlight" on Pattaya Beach Road. They are under tremendous pressure to send more and more money to their parents and love children back in Isaan, so extraordinary sources of income are tapped. Of course these girls have to be back at work the next morning, preferably reasonably well rested, and therefore are very unhappy about doing LT.[/QUOTE]I seriously beg to differ. I have never met a BR girl who has a day job. They usually sleep their day away. The chicks who have regular jobs all take a nap when they get off work then go to the discos later. I have had to drop several of them off at work the next day in their club clothes. They work at dentist offices, hotels, construction companies, Big C, condo sales offices, etc.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1415934]I seriously beg to differ. I have never met a BR girl who has a day job. They usually sleep their day away. The chicks who have regular jobs all take a nap when they get off work then go to the discos later. I have had to drop several of them off at work the next day in their club clothes. They work at dentist offices, hotels, construction companies, Big C, condo sales offices, etc.[/QUOTE]I think his reference is more to day the factory workers than the ones you reference. Most of the BR girls I have met don't want to do LT, is due to the commitment of having a child and must return to care for them since they don't have lots of support. Those others might be as noted by others that they feel they can do better making more of ST.
As far as pressure many have no idea what this male dominate culture has put on the shoulder of the Thai women here. As far as I'm concern they are the backbone of this country because no matter how many there are in their family it seems always one or two usually get the short end of the stick and it never is the men. It's like they are entitled to be lazy and greedy? Not only are they responsible for the deadbeat male Thai they have to support the rest of the family it's like they are slave even to the parents who have mistreated them while growing up. Its like they are brainwashed to have to support everyone once they know the girl is making some money no matter how? It's gets worse when the parents and family know they are working a bar or go go, then the topper is when they.
Know she has a farang boyfriend. If they already had a kid by a Thai and the parents are taking care of the child while she works in the bigger city it's like blackmail to send more if the parents are greedy. All if a sudden what was acceptable before is no longer? All of a sudden it gets more expensive even though noting has changed?
The more she makes the more they want. What a culture?
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1415934]I seriously beg to differ. I have never met a BR girl who has a day job. They usually sleep their day away. The chicks who have regular jobs all take a nap when they get off work then go to the discos later. I have had to drop several of them off at work the next day in their club clothes. They work at dentist offices, hotels, construction companies, Big C, condo sales offices, etc.[/QUOTE]I would agree that most probably don't have day jobs, but I have met several ladies who said they did. Some may have lied, but I verified one as she said she worked in a restaurant in Central Festival. I later went by there on the 6th floor I think and checked and sure enough she was there. The Beach Road work may have helped her buy that nice motor bike she had. She wanted us to ride her bike to my hotel. I said no way and she got some things that were locked up under the seat of the bike and then we got on a baht bus to my room for LT. She was one of my better finds on BR.
Hello every1.
Stayed Pattaya for nights 8th and 9th of April 2013.
On 8th, started hunting on Beach Road at 10pm, funny thing is, the girls I liked were asking for 1000TBH for ST and girls whom I didn't like, were asking for 500TBH.
Chose one very young strange hair thin girl who was texting / facebooking on her little handheld under a tree all alone. Just fell for her. I thought she was just 18, but when I checked her I'd at hotel counter, she was 22 (thai girls way too young for their ages). Refused take photos. She obviously lacked in oral skill. BJ with condom was not enjoyable at all. BUT her pleasure hole was breathtakingly tight. In the mid of action, the shitty durex got ripped off and it made me really really made me scared. Anyway pull my shit together and got another rubber on and finished on her flat belly. Before leaving the girl told me she had a little bro and parents at home far away from Pattaya."Mommy Papa no money. My last night, tomorrow I go mommy papa for new year, I bring money, mommy papa happy". Kinda saddened me.
Damage: 700TBH.
Took Little rest, had food and a few drinks at the room. Got out and walked the walking street from end to end twice. FLs in walking street are expensive, had eye on a buxom thai beauty, she said 1000 and I said 500 and was ready to go up to 800, but in the mean time a big arab came took her away for 1500:0.
Went up to beach road, found couple of girls eating in work clothes. I was in doubt if they are FL or not. Finally asked one if she is available, she happily said 1000. I said ok (man she was pretty and young, and she was in Black! And I was already heartbroken by arab. So didn't negotiate). I gave her my number and told her to come to hotel when her eating is done. She came after 30 min. Freshen herself up, I offered her some mouth wash (I can't tolerate the smell of thai foods in girls mouth, it is a turn off for me). Had a not-so-bad / not-so-great / kinda average session with her. She works in a mall nearby. I forgot the name of the mall.
Me and my friends went to shisha / hookkah bar near the end of walking street, where old arabic looking thai ladies were dancing on arabic songs. One of my friend could speak some arabics, he enjoyed a lot and I wast just resting on the couch with me beers. At 3am of morning, found a nice young dark skinned isaan girl for only 500THB. Man she was good at her job. 500THB well spent. She was very loving during the BJ and enjoyed a great deal with her. Wished to have another round but she had friends waiting for her at Insomnia and they will leave for home together.
Here I beg all of your pardon for forgetting their names, I actually typed their names in the notes app of iphone, but somehow it got deleted.
On. 9th April, my craving for white skinned ladies (please don't judge me for my weakness for whites) got a surge and found an Hindi Speaking uzbek woman of 30ish [pic attached]. She told her name is "Nagina" and I didn't buy that. But what's in name. She was lousy in bed, tried her mechanical skill to milk me in seconds, however after 15 min and 2 changes of position when her quick milking mission failed to deliver she was begging me to let her give a handjob. It was pissing me off yet I tried my best to keep the hard on. Banged her for another 5 min and ended on her ass.
We went to Galaxy. The famous Russian strip club, which was actually a stupid decision. Had a peg of Chivas for 300THB, had a stupid private for 1000. Tried my luck with a stunning young (one can only find 1 or 2 young and stunning girl at this stupid club). The girl told me she is a lesbian and she is not allowed to go out with customers. Pbbbt.
Having not the craving satisfied, went to the little motel near VC hotel, but there were no girls. A bike-taxi driver named Von came over and asked if we (me and my friend) wanted Russian girls, on which we said yes, and he took us to some condo near Mike shopping mall, called someone over phone. After few minutes two ladies came down. One young and one old. I took the young one named "Habiba". She was far better than Nagina-the machine. She said she is from Ukraine and taught me a few Russian words like bolshoi (big) , siski (boobs) etc. Had fun with her. My adventure at Pattaya ended with her.
My last day in Pattaya, I did something I never had done before. I sniped a girl. Not sure if this is an official term, but I feel it is appropriate.
I was out with a friend of mine. We hit several a-go-gos then he had to head back. So I continued alone. My first stop was Spanky's. I had taken a girl from there before that gave me good service, so I was hoping for a repeat. Unfortunately, she wasn't working that night. I figured she'd been barfined, but they assured me, she didn't show up or call. Had she been BFed, I may have waited for her return.
I then headed to Sapphire. It sucked the previous night, with one or two exceptions, so I wanted to check it out to see if either of those were there. When I got there, there were actually quite a few good ones about. However, there was one on stage that I really liked.
I took a seat next to an Asian guy. He had a dancer on one side and a server on the other. While I was trying to get the attention of the girl on stage, he told his server he'd like to buy her a drink. She finished her set, then headed down and replaced the dancer by his side.
Well, since he just tossed one cutie back, maybe he would reject her as well, so I waited a bit. If she stood up, I'd definitely buy her a drink. But he was taking his time with this girl. As far as I could tell, only one drink was purchased for her.
He finally got up to go to the bathroom. So I leaned over to the server and asked if he bar fined her. She responded,"No, you want to barfine her?"
I said,"Yes."
"She only can go short-time."
"No problem."
"How much you give?"
"Nueng pan, ha."
"One thousand, five hundred."
"Yes."
She then discussed the offer with the cutie, then returned to me and said,"Let her wait to see what customer want."
The guy came back and took his place between the two girls. There was some discussion going on, but I couldn't hear what was said.
Finally, I was about to give up and leave when the server turned to me and said,"Barfine."
I didn't know what she meant. Did she mean he barfined her or was she asking if I wanted to. I asked,"He barfine her?".
"No, you want to barfine."
"Yes."
She then got up and grabbed my bill cup and handed it to another server and said "Barfine". This other server looked a little surprised since the girl was sitting with another guy. She looked at me, and I nodded.
This was the very first time I'd ever barfined a girl without talking to her.
She got up from her seat next to him and walked over to me and told me she would be right back. I ordered another round of drinks and went to the bathroom. When I returned, she was waiting at my seat.
It turned out she was very sweet. I enjoyed talking with her, so I didn't think it was a mistake barfining her.
During our drink, I overheard the Asian guy (with an American accent) ask the server if I barfined her. I think he was a little remorseful. I'm sure they told him previously that I wanted to barfine her. And I'm sure he only had to match my offer, which is not out of line. So I can only guess he was trying to low ball her. He probably thought they were using me as a negotiating tactic, probably thinking I didn't make any offer.
We headed back to my hotel and had a great time. Would BF her again, no problem.
warning: this trip report (tr) is long / boring so just look at the pics (embedded in the word / pdf version).
trip 2 dates: 8 mar – 6 apr 2013 (30 days)
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table of contents.
section 1: musings / logistics.
section 2: lady friends.
section 1: musings / logistics.
a) met up again with bms little big man and then mr. enternational. met a bunch of other bms from the message board: abonvivant, punchy, theroadwarrior, qwerty12345, kangarooted, dr dennis and a few others. from the other message board: milestogo, yuri b, sixty two echo, loxfun and a few others.
be) pos (piece of sh*). a wg who cheats a customer (eg only giving him 1 pop instead of 2 pops for lt) is a runner. i don't know the term for customers who don't pay the lady for services provided so i'll call them pos.
- story 1: friend 16 sen and i hooked up several times last year and again this year. last year this is the story she had told me: when she started out in the p4p business one of her early customers picked her up from br, wanted st, and once back in the room they had sex. after sex the customer asked her to leave and never bother paid her for the st. she was so nervous that she didn't know what to say, so she just left.
- story 2: friend 8 jaew and i hooked up for 3 lts this year and during the 2nd or 3rd lt she told me this: recently she had a russian customer who saw her on br and wanted st. in the st room after sex he gave her the b 500, she placed it underneath the pillow and went to go shower. when she came out of the shower he was gone and so was the b 500 that was underneath the pillow. she thinks he's an expat and living in jomtien. i told her if she sees him on br to give him the finger and to yell out 'f*ck you, you not pay me' to which she replied she cannot, and for me to 'never mind. ' i'm sure if she's in p4p long enough she'll become a hardened wg, but the sooner the better for her sake.
- maybe the ladies lied to me or embellished the stories, but those scenarios sound plausible. assuming the stories are true, i'm not going to fault the ladies for being too soft / nervous / meek / forgetful / whatever to ask / demand their proper payment for services rendered. and pos mongers makes it harder for the regular mongers get decent service and gfes.
see) filmmaker of several sites, probably including: cpt, asd, tgw and thainee. com (creampiethais, asiansuckdolls, thaigirlswild and an almost exclusively thainee site). the guy's got it made (when he's not incarcerated, at least).
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tootsie pops.
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party beads.
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$10. 07/72 ea = $.14 / ea (b 5 / ea) cheaper than tipping b 20.
black mask.
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v-moda faders.
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e) hotels.
nightstar = b 3, 450 for 5 nights + b 653 in electricity = b 690 / night room + b 130. 6 / night electricity = average b 820. 6 / night ($27)
jasmine = b 19, 400/28 nights = b 693 / night ($23)
- my plan tix was $1, 226 and during my 30 days i spent about $4, 500 (including cost of hotel) so i'm still averaging $150 / day.
section 2: lady friends.
day 1, fri / 8 mar, iron.
- friend 1 the see photo, age 22, br. 1 pop in 1 round. 088-526-3154.
total b 853 = st b 700 + tip b 100 + beer b 53.
overall value c = service c + face c + body c + total b 853.
- friend 2 nat, age 21, dream bar pim 1 bb, milf. 2 pops in 2 rounds, pop cherry ass 1.
total b 1, 950 = ld b 150 + bf b 300 + lt b 1, 500.
overall value b = service a + face c + body b + total b 1, 950.
10:00 buddy 1 and i (we met up at our kul, kuala lumpur, changeover flight) land at bkk.
12:00 ride bell shuttle.
14:00 arrive at sanya nightstar staying in super deluxe room 302 (prefer room 402 but that's not available) ; buddy 1 thinks his royal deluxe penthouse is ok but would have preferred a super deluxe (which is also cheaper). we're at sanya until buddy departs on 13 mar.
15:00 i also check-in to jasmine (booked it for 8 mar. 6 apr to get the long-stay rate which is 20+% off) which is to be used as a st room 8. 13 mar.
16:00 basilisk bb at new simon bb complex for our first beer; i check with mamasan ao (?) at easy bb at sirens / pbg but she says the previous day tac (my t1 friend 14 who i had bf'd for 4 lts during t1) hadn't shown up for work and she's not answering her phone. i leave mamasan ao my cellphone number in case tac someday comes to work again. tac was bf b 300 + lt b. 1500 and i was hoping to negotiate with tac for her to spend 5 nights (8. 13 mar) with me for total lady b 5, 000 (ie b 1k / night instead the regular b 1. 5k / night) + applicable bf charges. alas, it's unlikely i'll see tac again at least during my t2.
17:00 buddy 1 links-up with his tgf from his jan & feb trips for a pre-negotiated vlt (very long time) fl since she scheduled to start dancing again at club blu (she's no longer at lady love gg) after buddy 1 departs, saving him the cost / hassle of club blu's bfs.
20:00 i find friend 1 at cb and she only does st; i prematurely tell her i'll pay b 700 + tip b 100 which she immediately agrees to; before i spoke to her i saw her talking to an indian guy who she says she turned down because he only offered st b 500 and because he was indian. friend 1 says she's been working cb for 1 month and before that at iron gg for 4 months.
22:00 i go back to dream bar pim (1) at new simon bb complex and bf b 300 friend 2 nat who at 20:00 agreed to do lt b 1, 500 (originally she wanted b 2, 000) if i came back at 22:00 to pick her up. i again let it slip an offer to buy her a ld b 150 (need to better control my spending habits). at 22:30 we do round 1 and surprisingly i pop her cherry ass. she wants to sleep so i leave her in the room so i can hang with buddy 1.
04:00 back in the room i start tapping friend 2, she wakes up and we do more anal intercourse as part of round 2.
05:30 friend 2 wakes me up, she's fully dressed and tells me she's leaving, i say ok and pay her and she's gone. i take a ws stroll.
06:30 day 1 is over.
day 2, sat / 9 mar, quickies.
- friend 3 dear see photo, age 22, br fl. 1 pop in 1 round, pop cherry ass 2, cim 1, 087-945-9270.
total b 600 = st b 500 + tip b 100.
overall value a = service a + face c + body c + total b 600.
- friend 4 see photo, age 20, br fl, mother of 11 month old kid. 1 pop in 1 round.
total b 600 = st b 500 + tip b 100 (i think that's what i paid her)
overall value a = service a + face c + body c + total b 600 (?)
- friend 5 mind bf 1 see photo, age 20, basilisk bb. 5 pops in 4 rounds, pop cherry ass 3, cim 2, 087-780-6114.
total b 1, 950+ = ld b 140 + bf b 400 + lt b 1, 500 + misc.
overall value a = service a + face c + body c + total b 1, 950+
06:30 go for a jog before i hit the sack.
07:00 i run in to friend 3 at cb and she quotes me st b 500, says she does bbbjcim and i agree to it. in the room she's game for poppin' her cherry backdoor.
18:00 (?) sometime in the early evening i meet friend 4 and i don't remember the pricing. she says i didn't fl her in jan / feb because she didn't have her i'd card, but she has it on her now. anal too painful for her even though i try various positions (man on top, woman on top, doggy style) to get mini-me inserted, so it's a no go on poppin' her cherry ass. she says she starts uni (versity) in may.
21:00 (?) at basilisk bb in new simon bb complex i chat up friend 5 who wants b 2, 000 but eventually agrees to b 1, 500. i repeat the dumb mistake of offering a ld b 140 even though she had already agreed to a lt bf. at basilisk the bf is b 400 but i still save on their cheap drinks (basilisk charges water b 40 but across from them frog bb charges water b 60). she was with me about 12 hrs i think and during one of the rounds i just fell asleep before popping. at some point i pop her cherry ass.
day 3, sun / 10 mar, again.
- friend 5 mind bf 2.
day 4, mon / 11 mar, ice cold.
- friend 6 ice see photo (taken in jan 2013) fl'the 1, age 22, ws fl. 1 pop in 1 round, runner 1, 092-014-2110.
total b 500 = st b 500.
overall value a = service b + face b + body d + total b 500.
- friend 7 aom see photo, age 24, has a kid, br fl. 5 pops in 5 rounds. 3-holer, cim 3, 082-215-9390.
total b 1, 500 = lt b 1, 500.
overall value a = service a + face c + body f + total b 1, 500.
22:00 friend 6 and i recognized each other the last 2 nights at ibar and i had her phone number from fling her in jan so we coordinated to meet in front of candyshop disco at 22:00. via sms text i kept telling her lt but once in the room she said she only did st, i said st b 500 and she said ok. deed done and i won't bother fling her again.
03:00 on cb i meet friend 7 and she says she's a 3-holer and does cim. she had large c / d cups but they were really sloppy, especially from being a mom and drooped down to her stomach. says she doesn't smoke or drink or go clubbing so after round 1 i leave her in the room to go club-hopping with buddy 1 and his tgf.
07:00 (?) i call it a night.
day 5, tue / 12 mar, and again.
- friend 5 mind bf 3.
10:00 friend 7 leaves after one last round / pop.
20:00 since tac (who normally starts work at 17:00) didn't show up for work at easy bb (even though that night was tac's friend / co-worker's be-day / balloon / free food party at the bb) according to mamasan ao, i decide to instead bf friend 5 a 3rd time. friend 5 is low-maintenance, which is what tac was back in jan / feb but now-a-days she's inconsistent and i accept that i'll likely never do tac again. during round 1 i tap friend 5's backdoor again but for round 2 and 3 she won't take anymore anal intercourse since it hurts.
day 6, wed / 13 mar, buddy 1's departure.
- friend 8 jaew fl'the 1 see photo, age 19, br fl. 5 pops in 4 rounds, no bjs.
total b 1, 380 = lt b 1, 000 + tip b 200 + food b 30 + drink b 90 + breakfast b 60.
overall value a = service b + face c + body b + total b 1, 380.
10:00 wake-up and ask friend 5 to leave so that i can spend the next 2 hrs packing my stuff to move to my jasmine room.
23:00 (?) talk to various cb hotties (young, childless, attractive faces) and the best candidates were som who wanted lt b 2k and a little later bom who wanted lt b 2k. they didn't know each other but their similarities (demographics, pricing, names) made me think they were in collusion or something.
00:00 meet friend 8 at cb, says she used to work at action street bb complex but not enough customers / bfs for her. we agree to lt b 1k but she won't do bjs at all (she's never done it and had no intention of trying it. same goes for backdoor action).
day 7, thu / 14 mar, detox.
- friend 9 kaew see photo, age 19, br fl. 2 pops in 2 rounds, pop cherry ass 4, cim 4, 086-035-6839.
total b 2, 000 = lt b 2, 000.
overall value b = service a + face c + body a + total b 2, 000.
14:45 friend 8 leaves my room
15:00 housekeeper cleans the room.
20:15 find friend 9 on cb and being young (age 18. 22) , childless, does bbbjcim and it's early i agree to her lt b 2k.
22:00 i fell asleep before we even did round 1. i hadn't take any kamagra since i was only expecting several bjs but during round 1 she said ok to trying anal but mini-me went limp before breaking her sphincter seal. mission failure, and i doze off to sleep (more tired than i realized).
01:00 for the next coupla hours i have a bad stomach-ache so was unable to do anything with friend 9 and alternated between trying to induce vomiting, trying to take dumps and lying in bed with an achin' belly.
03:00 i'm finally feeling better, her and i do round 2 and mini-me finally is up enough to tap her sweet, young, cherry backdoor.
03:50 she said she could have stayed until 06:00 but i offer her to leave at this time, which she accepted, as i just wanted to be solitary as my stomach healed / i regained my strength. i seriously doubted mini-me could have mustered the power for a round 3 between 04:00 and 06:00.
05:00 i'm at insomnia dancing and seeing what's available. spot 3 girls of which 1 i was interested in. i offer to buy the cute girl a slushee shot b 30 and she says what about the other 2 gals so i end buying 3 slushee shots for b 100 = b 30 / ea + tip b 10 to the waitress. i get her mobile number.
06:30 insomnia closes & i watch the ladies exit in to the light of the morning dawn, noticing how much hotter they look when they're in the club's dark-lighting with their heavy make-up. i spot frenemy 2 (som, who works at airport gg) and we chat and i tell her she can sleep off her inebriated state in my hotel room but no "boom-boom" as i prefer to be platonic with her (even though for a fl lt she'd only charge me b 1k and she's a 3-holer). back in my room she sleeps.
day 8, fri / 15 mar, rest.
- friend 10 biwty see photo, age 23 (?) , disco fl (usually lucifer).5 pops in 5 rounds. 084-888-5869.
total b 1, 549 = lt b 1, 400 + taxi b 20 + ibar happy hour drink b 69 + food b 60.
overall value a = service a + face b + body b + total b 1, 549.
07:00 do a jog before breakfast.
08:00 back in my room and spend the day trying to sleep as much as possible but frenemy 2 som hogs up most of my bed.
15:00 frenemy 2 leaves and housekeeper can clean the room.
20:00 meet up with a bm and show him around ws: baccara gg (both floors) , babydolls gg.
21:00 i'm at ibar where i'm supposed to meet up with friend 10 but she's late.
21:30 friend 10 arrives and we have a coupla drinks during ibar's happy hour.
22:00 in my room she quotes me st b 700, i offer her lt b 1, 000, b 1, 200 and then finally b 1, 400 which convinces her to do lt. we do round 1.
00:00 we eat at soi 15 and back in the room we do round 2.
04:00 myself and mini-me are both awake, i tap her in her sleep, i fall asleep for a minute or two, i wake-up again and finish round 3.
06:00 round 4 i wake-up horny, just do a hand-party and some abstract painting on her backside as to not wake her.
07:30 round 5 intercourse, she goes back to sleep and i surf the web.
day 9, sat / 16 mar, miss huge rack.
- friend 11 memmi see photo, age 19, br / ws fl. 4 pops in 3 rounds. 082-471-6179.
total b 1, 660 = lt b 1, 500 + taxi b 20 + drink m150 b 20 + food b 120.
overall value a = service a + face b + body a + total b 1, 660.
09:00 friend 10 leaves as she has to work at her hair salon at 12 noon today (she lives and works in jomtien). i spend most of the day napping and surfing the web.
20:00 meet another bm and we hit baccara gg, sirens / pbg bb complex, spanky's bb, new simon bb complex then cb.
23:00 bm says he'll bf the lady from new simon, i spend another hr or so on br but turn up empty handed.
01:00 i nap in my jasmine room.
03:00 i wake up and stroll ws then hit br again. if i don't find anything at cb i'll hang out at my usual discos: marine, ibar / insomnia.
04:00 i meet friend 11 and her half-sister (same mother, different fathers) on cb buying a crepe / pancake thingie and chat 'them up. friend 11 asks "how much you give me for lt?" and i tell her b 1, 000, then b 1, 200 and her sister chimes in with b 1, 500. i say ok to lt b 1, 500, relieved i didn't have to go up to b 2k. i buy the sister a crepe b 20 and pay the b 30 for all 3 of us to ride the songtaew to ws. too bad half-sister isn't as half as hot otherwise we could do a threesome. friend 11 says she normally works ws (as a fl).
04:30 friend 11 and i are in my room and she wears padded underwear (i guess to make her butt look bigger and rounder) but her natural c / d cup breasts look huge on her skinny frame. round 1 is bbbj, fs, cof and a second pop on her stomach.
06:00 hungry so i visit the soi bj noodle lady (who's open approx 02:00. 12:00) and friend 11 wants to come along even though she doesn't eat anything. it'd be strange if she thought i was going to do a st cheat on a lt girl as hot as her. back in room we sleep.
day 10, sun / 17 mar, little person.
- friend 12 nan see photo, age 20, br fl. 3 pops in 3 rounds, pop cherry ass 5, cim 5, 090-127-9487.
total b 1, 620 = lt b 1, 500 + taxi b 20 + heineken b 90 + ice tea b 10.
overall value a = service a + face c + body c + total b 1, 600.
08:30 i'm up and so's mini-me so i tap friend 11 a little then do some abstract painting (she's 1/2 awake while i'm doing all that) , so round 2 pop 3 is over and she's back to bed and i type most of this write-up of my friend 11 encounter.
11:00 round 3 pop 4. we may have done a round 4 pop 5 but i can't remember.
14:40 housekeeper knocks on my door wanting to clean the room. i put on top of friend 11's purse the lt b 1, 500 + taxi b 20. i walk her to the lobby but she wants me to walk her all the way to the motorbike taxi. at a food stand i ask if she's hungry, a big mistake, as she ordered b 120 worth of food to go (for her & her sister). from her purse she pulled out b 120 to pay for it herself but i paid the b 120 ($4) instead. at least i didn't have to buy her drinks at a disco the night before and she was mostly low maintenance.
18:30 exercise 3 on this trip, actually doing both push-ups and then a br jog. at cb see some decent options. upon return i have dinner.
20:00 i'm really tired (maybe my insomnia's been replaced by my usual narcolepsy) and i fall asleep in my room.
23:00 wake-up, drag my groggy self out of my room to stroll ws.
00:00 walk cb but slim pickings. talk to a few girls but not an adequate combination of lt, price, bbbj / cim, childless, young, cute. i make it to hilton / central festival then turn around to head back to ws.
01:00 on br i think across from mike's shopping mall (soi 10) i spot friend 12. her token (ie unattractive) friend encourages me talk to friend 12 who agrees to "smoke no condom," "i finish in your mouth" and instead of her asking lt b 2k price we negotiate for lt b 1. 5k. since her token friend was helpful in coaxing friend 12 to go with me, i give the token friend b 20 "for coke" or whatever. friend 12 is ok with walking to ws so i save the songtaew b 20 transportation of us 2.
01:30 at new star bb (soi diamondatws) for drinks but really so i can break a b 1, 000 bill. i order a water b 40 and she has a heineken, which she can only drink 1/2 of so i finish it for her.
02:00 round 1 pop 1 via cim then hang out a little.
03:00 round 2 pop 2 via abstract painting then sleep.
day 11, mon / 18 mar, she cums.
- friend 13 see photo, age 24, br fl. 1 pop in 1 round, runner 2, 3-holer.
total b 700 = st b 700.
overall value b = service c + face c + body c + total b 700.
- friend 14 why see photo, age 19, insomnia fl. 5 pops in 4 rounds. 3-holer.
total b 2, 000 = lt b 1, 500 + tip b 100 + san mig light b 120 + slushee shot b 30 + meal b 200 + bacardi breezer b 50.
overall value c = service b + face c + body c + total b 2, 000.
07:00 round 3 pop 3 including popping friend 11's cherry ass, finishing with a cim. during round 1 after the bj in the woman on top position she almost inserted mini-me in to her poontang without a condom. i told her "condom" and she said "ok." during round 3 she almost transitioned from anal intercourse straight to vaginal but i stopped her so i could "i wash and new condom." i don't know if she's trying to get pregnant, careless, etc but girls who are so nonchalant about safe sex are the ones i'm most wary of.
08:00 friend 12 comes out of the shower with her shorts on and she's getting ready to leave. i pay her the b 1, 500, give her taxi b 20 and 2 condoms, saying "condom for boom-boom, ok?"
18:30 meet coupla other bms for drinks at lk metro, then head to tahitian queen (opened in 1978, oldest patts bar, was very first gg but i think it's a crap, overpriced gg / bar that survives based on its long history) with coyotes all in bikinis and bf b 1, 500 (?) , then ws windmill gg and babydolls gg, lastly basilisk bb.
00:00 i'm at br and meet friend 13 who says she's young (age 20) but turns out to be middle aged (age 24). we agree on lt b 1, 500. in my room after shower i fall asleep.
01:30 i wake up and we do round 1 where i tap her backdoor.
02:00 after i pop she gets dressed and is making a run for it. i pay her only b 700 (i was considering paying just b 500 or b 600 but she was with me for 2 hrs and i tapped her backdoor) but she complains "long time b 1, 500!" but that's ridiculous since i only popped once. once i lock her out of my room she pounds on my door for a few minutes, yelling about payment, but eventually gives up and leaves.
02:30 check out lucifer and stroll ws.
03:15 check out casino club, based on advice of bm i buy coyote dancer #69 name jr a ld. she's pretty cool but casino's pricey: total b 280 = ld b 140 + my san mig light b 140. her bf is b 1, 500.
04:00 go thru ibar on way to back staircase that leads to insomnia i run in to friend 14 who i had flirted with previously but couldn't take home because i had a lady in my room already. friend 14 with several gal pals, smoking shisha and drinking. i join them, end up buying friend 14 a san mig light b 120, for the group popcorn b 65, slushee shots b 120 + mine b 30 (4 for the 4 ladies + 1 for myself) and applicable tips.
05:30 friend 14's gal pals gone and friend 14 wants to have 1 drink upstairs at insomnia but i tell her i want to boom-boom first. on way to hotel she says she wants to eat at marine seafood area (there's a 24/7 seafood eatery next to it) but i say boom-boom first. in my room do round 1 with 2 pops including backdoor.
06:00 we head out to eat and i was hoping for noodles b 40 but she wants the faux-marine seafood eatery. she gets her usual which costs b 200 = rice b 10 + soup b 90 + something b 100. my seafood pad thai b 65 and we have water b 20.
07:00 round 2 pop 3 and she also drinks a bacardi breezer from my fridge.
08:00 she enjoys watching internet porn on my netbook and so it's time for round 3. before i pop she says why i finish 3 times now but she still not finish. i say "how i make you finish" and "you do yourself, use your hand" and she replies "cannot." finally she says that doing woman-on-top she can cum. she rides on top but doesn't want to look at my ugly face so she covers my head with a pillow. finally she cums, i can take the pillow off my face and do my pop 4.
09:00 sleep.
day 12, tue / 19 mar, befriend german buddy.
- friend 3 dear again. 2 pops in 3 rounds.
total b 1, 760 = lt b 1, 500 + dinner b 40 + drinks b 160 + breakfast b 60.
overall value b = service a + face c + body c + total b 1, 760.
14:15 wake up, round 4 pop 5 via quick hand-party & abstract painting so friend 14 can then take time showering / getting dressed.
15:00 friend 14 leaves and housekeeper cleans room.
19:00 i walk cb on my way to soi 6 and didn't see much that interested until i run in to friend 3. she says for lt it'll be b 1, 500, i accept and we head to soi 6 to have some drinks. i buy her omelette dinner b 40, at nightwish her sangsom coke b 70, at soi 6 corner bar sangsom coke b 60 and water b 30. the 6 has some cuties but i friend 3 will suffice for the night.
21:00 at my room round 1 pop 1 and i tell her i'm headed out to the ggs. she was planning on going to shoot pool and we would rendezvous in a coupla hours, but she decides to stay in my room to watch tv. i look in to sensations gg but don't stay since it's a coyote joint, have a coupla draft beers at beach gg and buy a ld for lady # 48. beach gg had some good looking girls such as lady # 48, 58 and showgirl 510.
23:00 at the "i heart insomnia" party and meet a friendly german dude (= german buddy) who ordered bacardi rum bottle service and invites me to share, and of course i overindulge on the free rum & cokes, get drunk, lose my v-moda faders earplugs, get the phone number of apple (but don't remember the next day which insomnia club girl that was) and stumble out of the club about.
02:30 i buy "seafood fried rice, take away" b 60 which my girl wanted me to bring back to the room for her upon my return.
03:00 in the room round 2 is anal intercourse but i don't think i finished because i just pass out from being tired / drunk.
day 13, wed / 20 mar, kiss kool.
- friend 15 ann see photo, age 20, insomnia fl (normally works soi 6 kiss kool).1 pop in 1 round, cim 6.
total b 630 = st b 500 + tip b 130.
overall value a = service a + face d + body b + total b 630.
08:00 with friend 3 we do round 3 pop 2 via anal and bbbjcim, i go out to buy seafood fried noodle b 60 for myself and seafood fried rice b 60 for my lady.
08:30 in the room i realize i now have 2 seafood fried rice because i forgot i had gotten some last night. friend 3 eats the hot fried rice and i eat the cold one so i can help my slight hangover go away with some rice in my stomach. friend 3 says she wants to go to her room and is annoyed with all the boom-boom ass we did, so i pay her and she leaves.
15:00 housekeepers clean room and i eat my cold seafood fried noodle.
19:00 walk to soi 6 via cb but see much to my liking on br.
19:45 at soi 6 red point bar meet a bm for a drink, we check out soi 6, 7 and 8.
21:30 walk from soi 7 back to ws via cb and didn't much to my liking on br.
22:00 call it a night.
00:00 get woken up by a text message from the german guy who i met at insomnia the previous night, inviting me to meet him at insomnia, so i head out.
03:00 at insomnia meet friend 15 who says she's 1/2 laotian. 1/2 thai, works at soi 6 kiss kool bar. i watch as she finishes her bacardi breezer drink then ask if she wants to go with me and she tries to get me to buy her a drink but i want to avoid that expense and i want to pop. i tell her i want lt but she only wants st. we head to my room and even though i take 1/2 a kamagra mini-me disappoints both me and friend 15 by being mostly soft (really unfortunate since she had a cherry ass i was hoping to pop that cherry, but can't do so with a flaccid mini-me). friend 15 is good at giving head but prefers man-on-top fs which me / mini-me can't really do much of, and friend 15's fake pse moaning is a distraction. we finish with cim. she doesn't want to give her phone number and she doesn't want my phone number. friend 15 and i never discussed pricing so i give her st b 500 which she complains about saying at soi 6 she gets st b 1, 000, but i was anticipating her complaining and tell her that at soi 6 it's b 1, 000 for the lady (who really gets st b 700) and the bf b 300. and i reach in to my pocket and give her my remaining green bills, them being 4 so that's another b 80 for "tip" and i give her all 6 of my b 10 coins so that's a total tip of b 130, which pacifies her mostly. she says she's going back to insomnia and i go to sleep.
day 14, thu / 21 mar. 2012 bj princess.
- friend 16 sen see photo, age 26, br fl, mother of 7 & 8 yr old kids. 1 pop in 1 round, cim 7.
total b 600 = st b 500 + tip b 100.
overall value a = service a + face b + body c + total b 600.
12:00 i'm mostly awake, and after 8+ hours i hope i'm caught up on sleep.
15:15 guess not because i take another nap.
17:00 wake up.
17:30 exercise 4 starting with push-ups.
18:30 go for the br jog.
19:15 run in to friend 16 who was my 2012 bj princess (she couldn't dethrone the 2012 bj queen) , she still won't do lt so we agree on same st pricing that i paid before.
19:36 start of round 1.
20:06 end of round 1, just what i needed, a nice bj lasting 20+ minutes ending with a cim (and neither of us wanted to do fs) ; i pay her and she leaves.
20:10 i eat a 2-egg thai omelette + rice b 40 for dinner.
21:00 call it a night, fall asleep (again)
21:30 get a text for the german dude and he wants to meet at insomnia at 23:00, i reply "ok"
22:30 nap over, get ready to head out.
23:00 party with the german buddy at insomnia; this is the 3rd night in a row that i've hung out with german buddy who's pretty friendly, seems to know 1/2 the insomnia staff, and always springs for the bacardi rum bottle service (though i do pay for the several baskets of popcorn we go thru, the refills of ice & cokes, etc). i ask him does he go to insomnia (presumably with bottle service each time) every night and he says "yes." i don't know how he does it but my liver and hearing wouldn't be able to handle the drinks and loud music every single night.
02:30 insomnia girls aren't as cute as previous 2 nights and earlier at 00:10 german buddy even commented that we should start at ibar next time as he saw some cuties downstairs when he went for a look
03:00 german buddy hooks up with a marine disco fl, i pass on that girl's sister and we go our separate ways. german buddy + his gal to play pool and me to really call it a night.
03:30 go to sleep hungry because all i just ate was watermelon. friend 16 earlier in the evening saying i looked chubbier than last year forces me to confront my overeating habit on this trip (5 women i've run in to on ws / at bbs / wherever commented to me 'oh, now you bombuy [chubby]' and some of these women just saw me 2 months ago in jan). serving sizes are small but eating 5 meals + snacks / high calorie drinks is not being offset by the occasional br jog, sexercising and dancing at the discos.
day 15, fri / 22 mar, surveillance.
- friend 17 por see photo, age 18, smile bb on soi buakhao. 3 pops in 3 rounds, pop cherry ass 6, cim 8, 090-861-3289.
total b 1, 520 + incidentals = bf b 300 + ld b 100 + lt b 1, 000 + cigarette b 66 + lighter b 15 + toothbrush b 39 + incidentals.
overall value a = service a + face c + body b + total b 1, 400 + incidentals.
10:00 wake up starving, eat the usual seafood fried noodles b 60.
17:00 meet with a bm who asks me to see if his tgf is cheating on him so i head to soi buakhao where she works.
18:00 i'm at a soi buakhao bb conducting surveillance (won't go in to details later i confirm she was cheating on him)
18:30 notice friend 17 at the bb next door, ask her how old she is (she says 19 but she was born nov 1994 which makes her 18 by western calculations. 19 by asian standards) and if "you go with customer, me, long time, okay?" and she says yes. so i move over to her bb.
19:00 i pay her bf and on the way to my hotel room we get some dinner and then it's round 1, pop 1 but during the vaginal intercourse her period starts, we finish with cim.
20:15 take friend 17 to br for the pattaya international music festival.
22:30 i take her to ibar and we meet / party with my german buddy and do bacardi black bottle service (this time i do give directly to german buddy b 1, 000 since it was me+my lady drinking his bottle service)
01:00 us 3 move upstairs to insomnia and the staff brings back his remaining 1/2 bottle of bacardi rum (in los they'll store your unfinished bottle & you can drink it later) and we do bottle service (only b 215 for coupla cokes and bucket of ice)
03:00 friend 17 and i head home, i buy pad thai b 60, and we do round 2, pop 2 and since she's having her period it's another excuse for me to pop her cherry ass and her to do anal as long as i go "slowly." finish with a cim.
04:00 sleep.
day 16, sat / 23 mar, threesome.
- friend 18 nam, age 19, ibar fl. 1 pop in 1 round. 087-079-6513.
total b 595 = st b 500 + slushee shot b 30 + popcorn b 65.
overall value a = service a + face c + body b + total b 595.
- friend 19 miss kicker and friend 20 may see photo, both about age 22 (?) , ibar fls but normally works at a bb on soi dianaatlk metro. 1 pop in 1 round, friend 19 miss kicker is a 3-holer.
total b 1, 400 = st b 500 + tip b 200 for each lady.
overall value a = service a (except for the scamming / bitching / kicking) + face c + body c + total b 1, 400.
07:00 both of us are up, friend 17 smokes a cigarette in my bathroom, then i ask her to smoke me and she balks a little ("i smoke you before") before she starts the bj but doesn't want another cim since her throat hurts. i give her an abstract painting as a finish to round 3, pop 3.
07:30 friend 17 leaves because she says "i want go my loom."
14:00 go with frenemy 1 ae and ae's friend tip, an accountant at a condo, to visit the pattaya orphanage.
17:00 oil massage with a happy ending = oil massage b 200 + hj b 500 + tip.
22:30 meet german buddy at ibar for bottle service, flirt with surrounding chicks including friend 18.
02:00 friend 18 agreed to lt b 1, 500 (?) but once in the room she says she wants st b 500 which we do; she has amazing tits.
03:00 i'm back in ibar / insomnia looking for german buddy and a bm (who i met at 00:00) but both have gone home with their ladies.
05:00 ibar lights come on and people start leaving.
05:15 i spot friend 19 miss kicker & friend 20, i want miss kicker but she says her customer is on his way over to pick her up but friend 20 wants to go with me, i say how about a st threesome and they agree to it.
05:30 excellent threesome including doing friend 19 in the backdoor, but friend 19 tries to rush me to completion saying "i want to see you cum", friend 19 claimed to be a cherry ass but she took anal without blinking an eye, friend 20 said she was a cherry ass and refused to try it.
06:00 i get us in to the hallway and pay each b 500 + tip b 200 and friend 19 gets pissed saying she had told me that it was b 1k each lady and i call bs as i would have never agreed to that price-gouging. i tell her "you work bb, and tonight you work ibar, b 1, 000 for lt." headed down the stairs friend 19 grabs on to my new heineken wife-beater to pull me towards her, as she standing on 2 steps above me she easily raises her leg to kick me, heel-first, in the gut but it doesn't really hurt cause my gut has so much cushioning. i sacrifice the heineken wife-beater by leaning forward and losing it to miss kicker's grasp. so i'm shirtless, walking towards the lobby and when we get there the security guard is sitting there, the receptionist sees what's going on, friend 20 was calm the entire time watching friend 19 take out her aggression, i wave and say "goodbye" to friend 19 miss kicker and friend 20 then go back to my room. friend 19 continues to curse at me then they leave. after a few minutes i return to the lobby, tip the security guard b 20 and the receptionist b 20 and apologize for the commotion. then i go back to my room to sleep alone.
day 17, sun / 24 mar, bulldog.
- friend 21 great, age 20, insomnia fl normally works soi 6 bulldog. 2 pops in 2 rounds. 088-978-8768.
total b 1, 000+ = lt b 1, 000 + bandages (which were too small to be of any use)
overall value a = service a + face c + body d + total b 595.
01:15 had flirted with friend 21 great at insomnia the night before but since i met friend 18 first and thought friend 18 was going to do an lt with me, i only got friend 21's phone number. so this night we met after she got done working soi 6, and at 01:15 we linked up in front of ibar and went to my room. she said she drank too much the night before and fell off her motorbike while riding home. i was pre-occupied with round 1 pop 1 so didn't realize how bad her abrasions were.
02:30 i go out to get food and some bandages but the pharmacies close at 02:00 and 7-11 had regular size band-aids.
day 18, mon / 25 mar, patient 1.
- friend 21 great again. 4 pops in 4 rounds.
total b 1, 800+ = bf b 500 + lt b 1, 000 + patient 1 treatment.
overall value a = service a + face c + body d + total b 595.
10:00 round 2 pop 2. friend 21's abrasions on her foot and her wrist were about 3 inches long. 3/4 inch wide and were beginning to really hurt her. i tell her that i'll pay the bf b 500 so she doesn't have to go to work soi 6 today (giving her time to rest and heal) and that i'll pay her again lt b 1k to stay with me another night. i go to the pharmacy and buy her pills (antibiotics + pain meds) , large band-aids pre-treated with ointment, gauze, medical tape, spending about b 300 on stuff to fix her up, plus food / drinks. we spend most of the day sleeping, watching tv, surfing the internet, round 3 pop 3.
day 19, tue / 26 mar, money.
- friend 22 the, age 19, ws fl but normally works money bb at sirens / pbg complex. 2 pops in 2 rounds, cherry ass pop 7.
total b 1, 200+ = lt b 1, 000 + tip b 200.
overall value a = service a + face c + body d + total b 595.
10:00 friend 21 round 4 pop 4. a soi 6 chick who doesn't take cim, disappointing. at least her bj / hj technique was excellent.
12:30 friend 21 leaves for work but she leaves behind the remainder of the medical stuff (pills, ointment, bandages). i will never understand why i bother buying them stuff (eg toothbrushes or in this case b 300 in medical stuff) only to see them leave it all behind as if they won't be needing it again.
02:15 i'm strolling ws and come across friend 22 the, who i recognize as she's from sirens / pbg and i let it slip that i'll pay her lt b 1, 000 + tip b 200 for good service / smoke. in room we do round 1 pop 1 and sleep.
day 20, wed / 27 mar,
- friend 8 jaew fl'the 2 see photo, age 19, br fl. 4 pops in 4 rounds, no bjs, cherry ass pop 8, 091-243-9098.
total b 1, 260+ = lt b 1, 000 + tip b 200 + food / drinks + 3 fresh juices (2 orange juices + 1 coconut)
overall value a = service a + face c + body b + total b 1, 260+
09:00 friend 22 and i do round 2 pop 2 and then she wants to leave so i pay her.
17:45 i'm walking to soi 6 to meet another bm and i come across friend 8 jaew again on cb, chat her up and we agree to do lt b 1, 000 again.
18:00 with friend 8 at sky bar and i meet a few other bms; of course when i'm with a girl i spot ladies at sky bar & next door quicky bar that i want to st / lt but can't (as i don't want to make friend 8 jealous though she would tolerate it) ; owner of sky bar is pretty cool and i make a note to visit sky bar in the future (as the case with nightwish).
19:00 need to pop so friend 8 and i take the songtaew to ws and back at the jasmine room do round 1 pop 1 including popping her cherry ass. the first time i lt'd her she wouldn't let me tap her ass but i guess since i'm a repeat customer and fairly gentle at intercourse (i'm usually not in to rough sex) she let me do the honors, and of course she doesn't enjoy anal. still won't do bjs though and she says she never will. feel sorry for her future boyfriends / husband if she holds to that.
22:30 my german buddy wants, per his nightly ritual, to meet at ibar so i'm his wingman and we play drinking games with a coupla ladies there.
01:15 i had only planned on being at ibar for 1 beer but it's always a good time drinking with german buddy so i finally get home at this time and friend 8 was patiently waiting in my room just watching tv. at some point we do couple more rounds, couple more pops.
day 21, thu / 28 mar, ed (erectile dysfunction)
- friend 23, insomnia fl.
total b 700 = st b 700
overall value c = service c + face c + body c + total b 700.
13:00 friend 8 leaves after round 4 pop 4.
03:00 at insomnia i'm irritated after talking to some overpriced ladies, one who says "st b 2, 000" and she's old (age 29?) and not even hot and one lady who is hot (and she's half thai, half chinese) also wanted too much. i meet friend 23 who is the quiet type so her friend brokers the deal and i agree to st b 700. at my room even after taking 1/2 a kamagra mini-me is mostly flaccid so no intercourse, just a bj and abstract painting.
day 22, fri / 29 mar, first soi sex.
- friend 24 see photo, age 20, soi 6 sky bar, has a kid but stomach / boobs not affected (note: does have small boobs)
total b 1, 120+ = bf b 350 + st b 650 + ld b 120
overall value b = service b + face c + body c + total b 1, 120.
- friend 25 arisa see photo, age 19, br fl. 1 pop in 1 round. 085-421-3080.
total b 600+ = st b 500 + tip b 100.
overall value a = service a + face c + body b + total b 600.
15:30 meet a bm and check-out all the major soapies: honey, honey 2, sabai dee, sabai room, rasputin; at rasputin the ladies are either b 2, 000, b 2, 500, b 3, 000 or b 3, 800. bm and i couldn't figure out what made the rasputin b 3, 800 lady so expensive, she definitely was not hot.
17:00 at soi 6 sky bar again and i go upstairs with friend 24 and if i remember correctly mini-me still had ed issues so couldn't do intercourse. only got a bj and then some abstract painting as unfortunately friend 24 doesn't take cim nor cof. downstairs i buy friend 24 a ld not so much because she deserved a ld / tip but more so because sky bar, its owner and staff are very customer friendly and i want to support the business.
18:30 i walk from soi 6 to ws and eat some seafood pad see eew b 60.
19:30 meet a bm on soi diana & we have dinner.
21:00 bm and i walk down soi 7 and on to cb towards ws to browse the selection. i spot friend 25 arisa, she quotes me st b 500 so it's a deal. she wants the songtaew so we ride it to ws. she says that once she's 20 (which is the legal age to work at a gg / bb) she'll work at a gogo. we do st but she won't take cim. on the plus side the 1/2 kamagra or for whatever reason, mini-me ed issues was gone and the intercourse with friend 25 was enjoyable especially since she has a nice hour-glass figure. i tip her b 100 on top of the st b 500 she wanted. she won't do lt because she said that night she just needed some quick cash (via sts).
22:30 i'm at superbaby gg and see a buncha hotties / spinners, surprising since it was sat night and i thought the jap / korean clientele would have bf'd the best ones by 23:00 i meet several bms at superbaby and we gg-hop to happy and a few others i can't remember.
03:00 i leave insomnia and sleep alone.
day 23, sat / 30 mar, why not.
- friend 14 why again see photo. 2 pops in 2 rounds.
total b 1, 495 = lt b 1, 000 + tip b 200 + pbg food / drinks b 200 + ibar syringe shot b 95.
overall value a = service a + face c + body c + total b 1, 495.
- friend 26 see photo, age 19, ibar fl. 2 pops in 2 rounds, has a kid but boobs / stomach not affected; she's curvaceous (similar to friend 14 why)
total b 1, 030 = lt b 1, 000 + fried chicken b 30.
overall value c = service c + face c + body b + total b 1, 030.
09:00 friend 14 why sms / texts me and i tell her to come over to my hotel. she says she only does anal when she's drunk. nonetheless she gives a great gfe and the 2 rounds 2 pops were enjoyable (even though she didn't give me any head; i really should have insisted on bjs or negotiating for them prior to inviting her over) , and she climaxes (at least that's what she said; i couldn't detect any ecstasy when she came) at least once via her proven technique of woman-on-top position with a pillow covering my ugly mug. things i put up with to please a lady. we sleep, watch tv and per her request we eat at "beer garden' (pbg, pattaya beer garden).
19:00 friend 14 wants to leave so she can go home, change in to clubbing clothes, hit the salon to do her hair. i told her she looks fine the way she is and her and i can go to ibar as is but she disagrees. being a cc (cheap charlie) i was hoping she would stay with me thru the night and i only had to pay her lt once. since she was leaving now her and i both knew i had to pay her the lt price now, and if she was with me tonite then in the morning i would have to pay her lt price again. so i give her the previously agreed upon b 1, 000 (our first lt together was b 1, 500 but she agreed to lt b 1, 200 and then b 1, 000 if i fl'd her again) + tip b 200.
22:30 i meet german buddy at ibar and we party with his usual bacardi black rum bottle service. he liked me as a wingman so i tried to keep up with him but i'm a weak drinker and my liver / gut can only handle so much nightly booze / calories. he was staying at the page 10 hotel on soi 10, which is really nice, and every night he was going home with a lt lady, and at least once went home with 2 lt ladies, from ibar / insomnia. nights i hung with him i'd call it quits by 03:00 but he'd go home 03:00. 05:30. the previous night i was gg-hopping (he's not in to ggs) so couldn't join him at 22:30 at ibar but since tonite was his last night in los i made it a point to party until the end with him one last time.
05:00 since german buddy had to depart for the airport at 09:00 he went home with a ibar / insomnia fl about 02:30, so for once i actually stayed out later than him. between 02:30. 05:00 being solo i tried my best to get some tlc from the ladies but i lack game. fortunately ibar / insomnia popcorn b 65 and slushee shot b 30 are cheap ways to treat the ladies. when i saw friend 14 i bought just her a syringe shot b 95 and of course her 3 (?) female friends also wanted me to buy them syringe shots but i told 'them "after boom-boom, i buy you one" since b 95 apiece is pricey. nonetheless, a few hours of buying popcorns and slushee shots (must have spent b 500+ on 'them including tips) and still not scoring. one cutie named som 089-544-4865 (no relation to my frenemy 2 som) , who didn't remember me, i had talked to at cb about 22:30 about 10 nights ago and she wanted lt b 2k. i decided she'd be worth lt b 2k if i could get her on a night early (eg 20:00/21:00) since she was attractive, age 19 and did bbbj (i think confirmed she did "smoke no condom"). but on subsequent nights i never saw her on br again. so now she's with her cute friend at ibar and it's 04:00 and i had already tried to ply them with popcorn and slushee shots. i ask her to go with me and she says "st or lt" and i say "lt" and she says b 2k, which is ridiculous for me to agree to since it's already 04:00. she asks me if i want 1 or 2 ladies (pointing at her friend) and i say "how much for 2 ladies" and she asks me if i want st or lt with 2 ladies. for st it'd be b 2k to each lady, and for lt it'd be b 4k (?) to each lady. no point in trying to negotiate so i bid adieu and look at other cuties on my way to the exit.
04:30 i see 5 ladies sitting at a table and i approach the oldest (age 29?) one who also seems the most friendly. we chat a little and i ask her if i can go with her friend, who was either the cutest or 2nd cutest of the group of 5, and she was definitely the drunkest as she was about to fall asleep. the oldest one say "ok, but you pay her, ok?" and i say "ok" and so they put drunk friend 26 (who i'm not really sure if she was really cognizant that her friend pimped her out to me) on my shoulder so i can walk / carry her back to my hotel. i ask her if she wants some water (from 7-11 of course) or fruit and she points to a fried chicken cart vendor. i pay the friend chicken b 30 and my watermelon + pineapple b 20 (she didn't want any fruit) and we arrive to my room.
05:00 after showering we do round 1 pop 1. she was drunk enough to go home with me but sober enough to prevent me from tapping her ass (don't know if it was a cherry ass). oh well. she goes to sleep. no cim (again) so i do my usual abstract painting (in this case i jizzed on her hip) and she goes to sleep without a post-sex shower.
05:30 she's asleep, i figure i might as well be productive and get my stupid br jog out of the way.
06:30 i'm back from my 4 mile (6 km) jog, which was painfully slow, though i did see a coupla cb ladies i wouldn't mind doing st b 500 / lt b 1, 000, or even a 3some, if not for the fact i already had a lady in my room. i drink a coconut juice bottle and eat a coupla bbq skewers then go to sleep.
day 24, sun / 31 mar, bliss.
- friend 27 kung, age 30, bliss lounge. 2 pops in 1 round, cim 9
total b 820 = bf b 700 + tip b 100 + tip b 20.
overall value a = service a + face c + body c + total b 820.
- friend 28 am, age 19, ibar fl, normally works soi 6 quicky bar. 4 pops in 4 rounds. 082-207-1056.
total b 1, 000 = lt b 1, 000.
overall value a = service b + face c + body a + total b 1, 000.
07:30 i wake up and so does mini-me so i start tapping friend 26. she realizes what i'm doing, goes back to sleep (i've noticed that a working girl prefers sex with me when she keeps her eyes closed or somehow averts them so she doesn't have to look at me during the deed) , and i finish with an abstract painting on her butt (by this point she was sleeping on her left-side). again she foregoes the post-sex shower.
08:30 she wakes up, refuses a round 3 pop 3 (too bad because during round 1 she gave an excellent bj) and goes to shower.
09:00 wants b 2k, i give her b 1k, we both know that she's not getting more than b 1k, and off she goes. in 4 hours she made b 1k from me by having drunk sex, sleep sex, and she even got in a nap in between. she's willing to give me her phone number and go with me again (probably for st) but i'm wary that she'll be high maintenance when she's sober, like she's been just this past 30 minutes, so i pass.
11:40 i depart jasmine for bliss lounge and while walking br talk to one fl, age 25, no kids, ok face, st b 500, does bbbj but won't do cim, so no dice.
12:10 arrive to bliss (a bj lounge) , i don't think [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] girls have moved to bliss so it's the usual suspects at bliss sitting in front. i walk inside and friend 27 kung approaches me and i ask for won (there's a skinny won who's kinda cute with decent breasts / body but complained about her neck hurting at the 20 min mark; there's a chubby won who oddly switched out mid-way thru my bj session back in jan) but kung says won's upstairs with a customer. i confirm that friend 27 will do cim, i'm not interested in seeing her topless / down to her panties / naked (she's skinny but being an old 30 i figured better if she keeps her clothes on) and we go upstairs.
12:12 friend 27 starts with flicking her tongue quickly on my balls / shaft which feels really nice and then she gets to head-bobbing kinda harshly so i tell her to soften up and she complies.
12:36 i'm thinking i need to get to my hand-party so i can finish by the 40 min time limit. cim 9, but kung doesn't swallow. can't believe the last time i had a cim was on day 15, which reminds me that i need to bf friend 17 again as she takes cim and she may even be willing to do anal again (unlikely as she didn't enjoy her cherry ass poppin' session).
12:40 i still have a freakin' erection (so now kamagra is working overtime? so inconvenient) , so i tip friend 27 b 100, ask her if it's ok if i do a hand-party and finish on the towel (i don't expect her to take another cim for free, and i didn't want to tip her too much) , and she says ok. i chuckwow and have pop 2, but afterwards i still have an erection. i consider squeezing out a 3rd pop but who knows how long that'll take (7+ min absent porn to view?) so i make due with putting on my shorts with a boner. thankfully the boner went away while i was in the bathroom washing my hands.
12:55 i pay the cashier b 700 and on my way out of bliss lounge hand friend 27 another tip b 20 as she was so patient and accommodating to my circumstances.
current count: cim 9, pop cherry ass 8 (whether those ladies truly had cherry asses, probably at least 20% are lying)
19:00 meet frenemy 1 ae for her birthday dinner. two weeks prior when going to the pattaya orphanage with her and her friend the original idea was that frenemy 1 would treat us 3 to dinner since it was her birthday. instead of finding / buying her a birthday present i told her that i'll pay for our 3 meals. so the night's upon us and frenemy 1 asks if she can bring a 4th person, i say ok, that friend of her turns out to be a lady boy who's a dancer at one of the newly opened lb shows (similar to alcazar).
19:30 at red kimchi korean buffet (inside rgp, royal garden plaza mall) it's b 349 ($12) per person and includes unlimited drinks / sodas.
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4 people (me + the 3, uhm, ladies = b 1, 349 ($45) ; frenemy leaves a tip b 100).
20:30 i consider ditching them but opt to keep ae and her 2 friends company. we endeavor to enter ibar pretending that the lb is my 'girlfriend' going so far as to intertwine arms / holding hands, but the ibar security would not let her nor any lb in. lb suggests lucifer but considering how expensive bottle service there i suggest basilisk bb at new simon bb complex.
21:00 bottle service plus all the mixers (pineapple juice because they were out of orange juice, coke light, soda water) and another bucket of ice and the tab came out to be about total b 1, 500 ($50) + tip. between dinner + this bottle service i spent about b 3, 000 ($100) , which isn't bad to cover 4 people. i tell ae 'happy birthday' again, bid adieu to them and go my separate way to ibar / insomnia.
00:00 so i'm trying to land a fl b 1, 000 – b 1, 500 and i ae texts me asking if she can crash in my hotel room as she's lonely and doesn't want to spend the night by herself. i tell frenemy 1 that 'no, i have lady' as i don't want her to think that there's still a chance she can crash in my room. if we were friends with benefits (in her old age. 25, she's gotten a little thick so all i would want is a bj anyways) , sure, she could crash in my room. absent benefits, i need to find a lady friend for the night.
- starting this day my almost daily notes are non-existent, so my recollection of who i did or what i did is really shaky.
01:30 i meet friend 28 am at ibar. i had met her the night before at ibar (she's really easy to identify when she's wearing her yellow 'lakers' baseball cap) but she couldn't go with me that night but gave me her phone number. another bm had tapped her at soi 6 quicky bar and recommended her, and so she was the first lady i ever did that i know for sure a buddy of mine had done. now that i've crossed that line in to knowing taking my buddy's sloppy-seconds, guess i'll tap any lady (unless my buddy is opposed to it / jealous) that my buddies have been with.
02:00 in my room she does a good but very short bj (later i heard that at soi 6 quicky bar she gives great bjs during st as she used to work at my friend you and was trained by the infamous chompoo, bj queen) and we do round 1, pop 1. during initial entry i tell her 'you know i not wear condom? ' and for whatever reasons she was ok with it.
0x:xx round 2, pop 2.
0x:xx round 3, pop 3.
0x:xx round 4, pop. for rounds 2 – 4 she was really annoyed with me as she just wanted to sleep, and when i started tapping her during her slumber that would wake her up. mini-me was especially horny, hopped up on kamagra, with friend 28's perfect hourglass spinner body. on top of all that i did her bareback every time so mini-me wanted as much poontang access as he could muster. during pillow talk i asked her if she goes bb with any other guy and she does with this aussie guy, age 26, living in patts who pays her to come over to his place for lt if she doesn't have a customer after quicky bar closes at 01:00.
01:15 she's about to leave my room, i forgot to leave the lt b 1, 000 on top of her purse so i hand it to her, she just looks at it (i was hoping she would vehemently decline so i could claim it was a freebie more or less, but of course insist she take the b 1k for 'taxi' or whatever). i open up her purse, insert the b 1k in, close the purse and she leaves. i told her that since i was leaving this sat, if she would go with me lt any / every night after quicky closed and she had said ok (i felt safer if i only bb'the her and no other chicks the remainder of the trip, her body was hot and i wanted more bjs from her). i guess me paying a pittance of lt b 1k eliminated any possibility of that as we never hooked up again.
day 25, mon / 1 apr, blackout.
- no idea who i hooked up with this day. all i can vaguely remember:
19:30 basilisk bb i finish what's left of the smirnoff vodka bottle service, which ends up being about 4 shots worth with water as a chaser.
22:30 ibar to finish what's left of the bacardi black rum bottle service that german buddy passed on to me, it came out to be about 5 shots for myself plus 1 shot to the cutie at my table who was with her token friend. unfortunately the cutie told me 'i not same pattaya lady, i not sell my body. ' i guess i should have given her more shorts to get her to market.
00:00 i run in to this middle-aged (25?) chick that german buddy had been with and german buddy told me she had a good body. during negotiations i offer her lt b 1, 000 but she balks and says that german buddy had paid her lt b 1, 500. we agreed to b 1, 500 and we go back to my room. i had wanted the same price that german buddy got and he had told me he never pays the lady more than b 1, 000 (his tactic is to never bring up money, when they leave in the morning / afternoon just give 'them b 1, 000) so i was already suspicious about her truthiness (not a real word, just a stephen colbert reference). in the room she laughingly says i can get in 1 pop, just like german buddy. i was tips from the shots in the past coupla hours and i just snap. i tell her 'go! ' and without thinking grab her purse and take in in to the hallway. she follows me in to the hallway, wants severance pay for 'you pay me for take my time' but i basically used my fat girth to keep her from staying in my room and getting any payment from me. she tells me 'i see you at ibar again. ' and something about kicking my ass. so that was a total waste of her time and my time. lt b 1, 5000 is one thing, but to limit me to 1 pop when it's an lt agreement is going too far.
xx:xx it's my last 5 nights in paradise so i went home with someone, just have no memory and no photo of whom.
day 26, tue / 2 apr, the chompoo experience.
- friend 29 chompoo, age 26 (?) , has 2 kids, soi 6 my friend you bar. 0 pops in 1 round, she's a 3-holer & can take cim.
total b 1, 000 = bf b 300 + st b 700.
overall value b = service a + face d + body d + total b 1, 000.
20:00 after i had learned from another bm that soi 6 night wish bar was having a 60-hr continuous party from 14:00 mon / 1 apr to 02:00 thu / 5 apr, and 10% of profits would go to charity (i think a place in rayong that helped disadvantaged children with hiv) i decided to come to night wish that same night. had a few drinks but unfortunately ning.
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wasn't available for st. i also bought for cutie (her facebook profile says warisa tequila.
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) who said she just started working night wish and that was ning that introduced her to the biz. warisa was a milf, age 22, and looked to have large natural tits. her and i agreed upon 3-holes, cim, lt b 2, 000 (which seemed steep but she was so sexy and friendly) and bf (b 550? for lt) but i had to wait until 22:00 to bf lt a lady.
21:00 i hit soi 6 passions dance club and fun seeker dance club, both faux-ggs (i think mandarin is the other soi 6 faux-gogo). i love gogos for the aircon and to see tits / nudity. the ones at soi 6 usually open at 4 pm. at fun seeker i meet this young cutie (forget her name but she has a scorpion tattoo on her right wrist) who says she used to work at night wish. i declined buying her a ld but she continued to sit / chat with me until her time to dance came. once up on stage, before i left fun seeker, i handed her a tip b 20 and she seemed happy about that.
22:05 at night wish warisa was avoiding me so i figured she changed her mind about our lt. i decide to hit mfy (my friend you) for 'the chompoo experience' since chompoo (and ning at night wish) is known for incredible bjs. a bm told me 'if chompoo can't make you cum, then you'll never cum from a bj. '
22:20 chompoo is really friendly and customer-service oriented, and the b 1, 000 is paid in full upfront to the cashier. chompoo i also the thickest and tallest (i think she was a smidge taller than me, maybe 5' 7' (171 cm) patts chick i had ever been with, so the total opposite of my type but i'll give her skills a chance. the chompoo experience consists of a really nice couples shower where she washes my back, laying on the bed and her doing all the work including flicking her tongue around mini-me to tease him, and a bj for as long and however (soft, hard, slow, fast, shallow, deep.) i want. i didn't cum from the bj / hj, but it wasn't chompoo's fault. so i tell her that i'll do my hand-party and she says 'customer not happy, not good' and wants to continue to finish me, and during this discussion i lost any semblance of an erection so even a hand-party would do me no good (times like this i really wish i had internet porn, maybe i need to bring my ipod touch wherever i go and surf porn via wi-fi). we shower, i tell her that i appreciate her efforts, and i leave for ws.
xx:xx it's my last 4 nights so i went home with someone, just have no memory and no photo of whom.
day 27, wed / 3 apr,
- friend 30, age 21, milf but body unaffected (she had a c-section) , br fl.
total b 700 = st b 700.
overall value a = service b + face c + body a + total b 1, 000.
- friend 31 ning see photo, age 31 (?) , works soi 6 night wish bar, does 3-holes, cim.
total b 1, 850 = bf b 350 + st b 1, 000 + tip b 200 + 2 lds b 300.
overall value a = service a + face c + body c + total b 1, 850.
- friend 31 ning see photo, age 31 (?) , works soi 6 night wish bar, does 3-holes, cim.
total b 1, 850 = bf b 350 + st b 1, 000 + tip b 200 + 2 lds b 300.
overall value a = service a + face c + body c + total b 1, 850.
- friend 32 see photo, age 25, milf, insomnia fl. 3-holer.
total b 1, 020 = lt b 1, 000 + insomnia slushee shot b 20.
overall value a = service b + face d + body d + total b 1, 020.
18:00 i jog br but this cutie friend 30 across from rgp stops me dead in my tracks. even though she's a milf and reluctant to try cim (she said her ex-boyfriend got her to swallow and she became ill) i tell her she can just spit it out and we agree to st b 700. at my place her body's pretty nice, we have a good shower together and her bj's pretty good. the cim was a little awkward as she didn't know what to do and during the moment of truth it was 70% cof and 30% cim (i inserted mini-me for the last bit). she just needs more practice. i convinced her to a llt (long long time) with me for b 5, 000, to stay with me from this night until i depart on saturday at noon (so basically 3 nights). i invite her to soi 6 night wish but she asks if she can meet her brother (which is probably code for 'i'm going to bang my thai boyfriend one more time before i'm stuck with you' for llt) while i'm there. i say ok and we agree to meet at 23:00 at jasmine hotel. before she leaves i give her b 700 so she'the have money for taxi / food / whatever and in case she's a runner at least i paid her for this excellent st. she's surprised i gave her b 700, at first she thought it was a tip and i tell her 'no, i give b 700 now and saturday i give you b 4, 300. '
20:00 i'm at night wish to meet a few buddies / fellow bms. this is also the last night of the nw (night wish) fundraiser because at 02:00 it's officially over.
21:00 friend 31 ning's available so we go upstairs. i tell her i have no power and just want a bbbjcim, she says no prob. her bj / hj with lots of spit as lube is pretty good but i still can't finish. (chompoo and ning are among the best in the bj biz, so i can just assume trying to finish via bj / hj. a bm nicknamed me '7c' for cheap charlie chan can't cum can chuckwow' to finish). at one point ning whips out her vibrator and i was worried she would try to insert it into my bunghole, but she simply held it close to mini-me to vibrate the area and i guess make it more erotic, though it didn't do much for me, just a novelty. ning was donating her entire st lady fee to the charity so she was essentially working for free, so i stopped the bj at about 15 minutes. (she had 'silicone' not 'original milk' and her age didn't appeal to me, but since she was philanthropic enough to donate her entire st pay to charity i felt obligated to do at least one st with her and experience her bj technique). i told her i would chuckwow and cim, and she said ok. during the post-bj shower i asked if a guy could [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in her mouth (i read this on one of the monger boards) and she said yes, and asked me if i want to do that but i declined. she asked if i wanted her to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in my mouth (she said some guys enjoy the warm sensation) , which i also declined. i did tip her b 200 and bought her a ld b 150 (plus the previous night's ld b 150).
21:30 i was talking to warisa tequila again and asked if her boobs sagged (she is a milf after all) and she said i should feel them. i reached in to her shirt, under the bra and felt her boob, seemed really soft so i suspect they sag some. at any rate, one of these days i may get warisa for total b 1, 350 = bf b 350 + st 1k to satiate my curiosity as to what she looks like naked.
23:00 i'm having fun with my buddy's at nw and try to re-schedule meeting with friend 30 again at 02:00. it all goes south and basically she's a runner. maybe i should haven't given her that b 700 down payment after all. i go back to ws a little annoyed that i couldn't shack up with friend 30 (awesome coitus and bj) for the next 3 nights for only b 5k.
01:00 at ibar some ladies and i recognize each other.
02:30 at insomnia i run in to a friend from 2010 who went with me from insomnia for lt b 1, 000 and supposedly i popped her cherry ass. she now works at soi 6 chili bar and when i spoke to her there in 2012 she quoted me lt b 2, 000. now i see her at insomnia with her friend, friend 31. i proposition chili girl 'lt same before b 1k' and ask for 3-holes, she says 'lt b 1, 300' i counter with 'lt b 1, 200' and the deal stalls. later she goes with a guy she know for st and returns. chili girl was good in bed and when i was with her in 2010, great body, but i didn't want to cave during negotiations. i had two sts earlier that day so mini-me was being patient.
05:30 past few hours have been problematic because german buddy's ex-friend who i kicked out of my room was at insomnia seated with her friend, and she declined my peace offering of a slushee shot. friend 14 had moved from ibar to insomnia and saw me with friend 31, so friend 14 (being tipsy) was acting jealous. and 5. 10 women who i had propositioned in the past said hello to me, i think just to give friend 31 the wrong idea that i'm a playa. in 25 days, propositioning / talking to 10+ women / day, i've approached 250+ women. and on this particular night they all seem to want to remind me that i'm a 'butterfly. ' i think this was the night i was also propositioned by a chick who said she worked at worldwide gg dancer (#27) , but her face / body was ok and she wanted lt 2k, not the lt 1k i proposed (i didn't want to counter with lt 1. 5k).
06:00 finally friend 31 is ready to go. in my room i get her to do anal. she says she's only done it once with her ex-husband (who lives in sydney with their daughter, who she's not allowed to see anymore). she wasn't sure if she enjoyed the backdoor action, but we did it for round 1, pop 1 at full-throttle with no problem. she even insisted on a couple of different positions while doing anal. unfortunately her milf boobs were so terrible looking (totally ruined her spinner body) that i wished my room had black-out curtains so it would be pitch-black. we may have also done atm (ass-to-mouth, or ass-remove condom-then mouth) because i remember the sex being pretty dirty / filthy and thinking 'hmm, this girl is down for anything. '
day 28, thu / 4 apr, no atm ice.
- friend 8 jaew fl'the 3 see photo, age 19, br fl. 3 pops in 3 rounds, no bjs still.
total b 1, 520 = lt b 1, 000 + tip b 300 + food b 80 + taxi b 20 + pad thai b 60 + fresh juice b 20 + snacks b 40.
overall value a = service b + face c + body b + total b 1, 380.
- friend 6 ice fl'the 2, age 22, ws / ibar / insomnia fl. 2 pops in 2 rounds. 3-holer 1, 092-014-2110.
total b 1, 000 = lt b 1000.
overall value a = service b + face b + body d + total b 1, 000.
10:00 round 2, pop 2 and off friend 31 goes.
10:30 i text friend 8 over to jasmine and ask if she can meet me at 11:00, and she replies enthusiastically. she had texted me one night inviting me to that what (temple) near intersection of pattaya tai (south pattaya road) & second road for some night market thing but i couldn't make it. one night i had seen her on br and offered her b 60 ($2) for food / whatever but she didn't want my charity (i can't think of any other thai woman / man ever declining money / tip from me).
11:00 friend 8 arrives and it's round 1, pop 1. beautiful body. during round 2 i make the move for her backdoor, ask her if it's ok and she gives the usual ambiguous los lady response: 'up to you. ' mini-me slowly enters then she starts crying, i think 'oh, crap' and pull mini-me out. comfort her a little, reach pop 2 via hand-party. when i fl'the her the second time i had popped her cherry ass and she didn't cry, so i don't know what's changed. nonetheless i felt guilty for making her cry even just a little. hard to believe but she's the first woman (p4p or not) that i made cry in the course of intercourse.
14:00 we went for a walk around, got some 7-11 snacks and street food lunch to bring back to the room.
18:30 i got her to stay with me for lt+ 11:00 today until 14:00 the next day for b 2k but then i had buyer's remorse. i asked her if it's ok we just stick with lt b 1k and she said that was ok. (i would have been with her until sat had she only done bbbjcim but bjs were off the menu). after round 3, pop 2 i bid adieu and paid her extra since this would be the last time i'the be with her: tip b 300 + food b 80 + taxi b 20.
19:00 i bb / gg-hop.
05:00 i'm tipsy and while at insomnia i see friend 6 and we both acknowledge each other. figured might as well go home with her, preferably lt b 1k not st b 500. once we're out of insomnia there's this other monger talking to her, telling her to go home with him. so i'm waiting to see what happens, if she decides to go with him or with me. she decides to go with me, it turns out the other monger is american and friendly so him and i start chatting. he says she's a fun 3-holer and gave me some advice on accessing the backdoor (she's not enthusiastic about anal sex). him and i exchange phone numbers.
05:30 in my room round 1, pop 1 including 3-hole action.
day 29, fri / 5 apr, atm pin.
- friend 33 pin, see photo, age 19, 3 angels bar at soi 6, 1 pop in 1 round. 3-holer, atm, cim. 090-159-9694.
total b 1, 410 = bf b 300 + st b 700 + tip b 300 + ld b 110.
overall value a = service b + face c + body a + total b 1, 000.
- friend 34, see photo, age 32, ws fl. 3 pops in 3 rounds. 3-holer, atm, cim 085-000-5512.
total b 1, 620 = lt b 1, 500 + food b 100 + taxi b 20.
overall value a = service b + face c + body c + total b 1, 620.
10:30 i wake-up and start tapping friend 6 again, she says i'm in her vagina, not the bunghole i thought i was in. i go from vagina to anus and tap away. i try go her to do atm but that's a no go. i finish and she leaves.
14:00 i'm at soi 6 night wish to meet this dutch monger i had met on wed night and took him (and his night wish barfine lady) to ws baccara gg as he had no idea which ggs were the best so i took him to the one with the most stunners. though it was his second patts trip he wanted mongering advice which i provided, and as a thanks he insisted on meeting friday (today) at 14:00 so i could give him soi 6 advice and he wanted to get me a soi 6 st lady as thanks. i didn't really need him to pay for my st but i agreed to meet him, and of course he didn't show (he didn't have a cellphone either). i texted buddy 6 (the monger who i cock-blocked / met the night before, i'm calling him buddy 6 because on soi 6 is when we really became buddies) and he came out to soi 6. after nw we hit quicky bar (see photos above) so i could buy friend 28 am a ld beer b 140, and ended up also buying bee (see above left 2 photos, she's wearing the mini-skirt with the white top) a ld beer b 140. when bee was working at quicky bar in feb 2010 (see above right photo of her in white shirt, red skirt) i had st'the her (total st b 1, 000 = bf b 300 + st b 700 and i think i bought her a ld) and she had an amazing body (i think c-cup breasts) , good bj, decent sex. not really sure if she was of legal age back in feb 2010 but i'the prefer to not to know the truth.
14:00 i got friend 28 am's phone number again since t i had tossed it after being unsuccessful in the past trying to arrange another fl lt with her. she says she can go with me tonite so i should hit her up. she also criticizes me for something, for being cheap or ugly or something. i ask her why she would go with me and she says it's a mystery to her considering i have 'small (chinky) eyes' and i don't have big money. oh, well, just so long as she goes with me for lt b 1, 000.
15:30 buddy 6 and i are at soi 6 miss saigon (?) bar and sitting in the front eating. i had a fatty pork+veggies+rice b 35 from some street vendor. across the way at 3 angels bar the chick in black with the * boots catches my eye.
16:30 i approach friend 33 pin at 3 angels bar and she wants total b 1, 300 = bf b 300 + st b 1, 000. i get her to go down to st b 700 + for good service tip b 200. upstairs turns out she has small boobs which doesn't bother me much as her bubbly attitude makes up for it. we shower together and once on the bed while she's doing the bj i start fingering her bunghole. she knows i want anal intercourse but when i ask her for the 'jelly' she says she doesn't have any ky. she does the bj for a long time and she says 'oh, i die' from doing it so long. on to the intercourse and she's pretty good, then she says that she does have jelly. with the green light for anal 'slowly' we do it and she doesn't really enjoy it. then it's atm (or in this case ass-remove condom-dick to mouth) and i finish with a cim. during the post-sex shower she says her ass hurt and 'toot kaput' (toot being thai for ass and kaput the german word for broken, or something to that effect) , which i find comical. she had claimed that she was a cherry ass but later that day i find out from a bm that she had done anal before. nonetheless friend 33 was so much fun with the long bj. 3-hole action, atm, cim that i tipped b 300 and gave her b 120 for a ld (ld only b 110 but i was in a hurry and just handed her a red bill + a green bill).
17:15 buddy 6 was done with his soi 6 st (who was also a 3-holer) and so we walked back via br to ws.
18:00 buddy 6 was going to shower / do stuff and we were to meet up at 20:00. i had to run errands including a haircut and getting some pharmeuciticals for my trip home.
21:00 start of my very last night's gg-crawl. first stop supergirls gg.
21:30 bm calls me up out of the blue and we go for a drink at carousel bb (between supergirls & superbaby ggs) for a drink. him and i had a misunderstanding on the message board, after stating my pov (point of view) i offered to buy him a drink and so he took me up on my offer. him and i are from the same us state so had a few things in common, and i invite him on my gg-crawl.
21:45 at superbaby gg we meet buddy 6 and hang out for a bit. a couple of other bms (aussie buddy 1, aussie buddy 2) show up to hang out with me for my last night.
22:15 i trek to my favorite pharmacy to pick up my order with a couple of the buddies.
22:30 airport gg to buy frenemy 2 som (dancer at airport) a ld and say goodbye, and say the same to boom, a showergirl who i may someday bf.
23:00 baccara gg, downstairs, we meet up with another bm (canada buddy) + his los friend (actually a friend with benefits, a sensations gg dancer even, she won't accept any of his st / lt money; he's temporarily living in patts and i don't know how his life can get any better). so now it's me + buddy 6 + buddy union + aussie buddy 1 & 2 + canada buddy + his girl. lotta fun that they could meet up with me for my last night in town, and i had told them i might not be able to afford coming back until 2014.
23:30 me, buddy 6 + buddy union check out ws disco and buddy union decides to stay there as he's had good success there. i can't remember what buddy 6 did after that.
00:00 candyshop disco to meet up with the aussie buddies and canada buddy + his girl. then i spot black buddy, his brother, and their los lady friend at candyshop. black buddy and i used to work together and he was supposed to arrive to patts 3 apr but ended up getting in 5 apr. i had e-mailed black buddy to meet me at supergirls gg between 21:00 and 21:40 but him and his brother got there at 21:50, at which point i was at the next gg, superbaby. black buddy had my cellphone number but never asked his lady to use her phone to ring me. it was black buddy + his bro's first time to patts, they had gotten to their hotel at 18:00 and they still hadn't been to a gg. baccara was the best but i figured it was easier to cut loose, with plenty of women, at peppermint.
00:30 canada buddy + his girl peels off and we bid farewell.
00:45 peppermint gg with black buddy + his bro, and the 2 aussie buddies. i'm getting drunk on the draft beer b 69 and since it's ld b 130 ($4) i figure i'the show black buddy all that you can get from buying ld (s) and giving out some tips. i buy a ld for one dancer, accidentally buy a ld for another dancer, but with the first lady i start feeling up her tits, suck on them a little and at one point we're standing on the bench-seats with her facing the wall with the halls on the wall, and i'm dry humping her from behind thru her bikini bottoms. yep, i was acting obnoxiously drunk but she was either having a good time (probably had a few too many alcoholic lds by that time of night) or putting on a good game face / show.
01:30 time to settle the tab and it was way too much. turned out the aussie buddies slipped their bin / bill in to my bin, the pricks. they were surprised i caught that little prank, i paid both bins and we were off to happy gg. black buddy and his brother (and lady) , after making it rain with green bills and getting the peppermint gg staff / ladies all riled up, moved on to flexx disco for the hip-hop atmosphere.
02:30 i tell the 2 aussie buddies later and am on the lookout for a friend for the night. after striking out with a few ladies i chance upon friend 34. she agrees to lt b 1, 500 and anal as long as 'ok if you not big. ' (un) fortunately, i'm not big so i tell her we're doing anal. in my room i bareback her (yep, completely careless and i wasn't blackout drunk so i can blame booze) and even went atm, with pausing to wipe off mini-me with a towel (definitely not as sanitary as telling me to go wash / shower her ass residue off mini-me). round 1, pop 1 is done.
07:00 round 2, pop 2.
day 30, sat / 6 apr, only 1.
- friend 35 see photo, age 24, br / cb fl, pop cherry ass, cim, atm.
total b 550 = st b 500 + bacardi breezer b 50.
overall value a = service b + face c + body c + total b 550.
09:00 friend 34 round 3, pop 3 with more anal and i think atm action.
09:30 she wants to leave as 'you want too much boom-boom. ' i consider offering her more money to stay until 14:00 when i have to check-out of my room, but decide i want to be alone to pack.
10:00 have breakfast with a bm.
10:30 frenemy 1 ae comes by my room to say goodbye and i also give her stuff i no longer need (pants i'm too bombuy [chubby] to wear anymore, some used shirts, the mask.
[url]http://amzn.to/15fjegc[/url]
as i won't bother using it in the future, etc).
11:00 i'm done packing and consider going to soi 6 for a quickie but i don't know of any bars that are open so early and the selection would probably be wretched. i decide to jog br and find a fl.
11:30 on br across from the mike's plaza (, the one closest to ws as there's a mike's mall and a mike's plaza) i see friend 35 and figure she'll do. i negotiate her for st+ b 1, 000 where she'll stay with me from 11:30 – 14:00 and give me 3 bbbjcim and pop her cherry ass.
11:40 in my room i pop the remaining ½ of a kamagra (no point in bringing back ½ a pill to the us). she's only 24 and childless but her boobs are terrible. nonetheless i'm not interested in her headlamps. popped her cherry ass (which she did not enjoy) then atm (ass-removed condom-mini-me to mouth). she wasn't much to look at so while she wasn't blowing me for a while, i was on a monger board i'm / chatting with a few other bms. she gets tired, i figured i should finish so it's cim.
12:20 she wants to leave, i say st b 500 and she would rather take that then give me 2 more bbbjcims for an extra b 500. i don't tip her but do give her the bacardi breezer still in my fridge.
12:30 while picking up my laundry and while at 7-11 to pick up snacks for the shuttle ride / airport wait, i proposition a coupla different ladies for a st. response was 'no' and 'i have period. '
12:40 alone in my room i decide to just do some hand-parties, and it takes 3 of 'them to prevent any more erections from the kamagra.
14:00 check-out.
14:30 bell picks me up, go back to my real (boring) life
[QUOTE=Amex Spg;1416254]14:30 Bell picks me up, go back to my real (boring) life[/QUOTE]Great detailed report!
How you spent that many days in LOS without having at least one heart attack is beyond me!
Thanks for reporting.
this info is for newbies like myself – sorry to waste some the senior's time on reading this post. and i do not describe carnal pleasures (i love to read about them, but i am not good at describing such things, so i do not bother.)
i am in pattaya, planning to stay until this week ends. if anyone wants to meet, i would welcome your company.
1. orientation. smart phones are nice, but google maps name streets differently than on very useful.
[url]http://www.pattayabarguide.com/gogo-map.htm[/url]
so.
[url]https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=437%2f137-8+soi+yodsak+ (soi+6) , +pattaya, +chon+buri, +thailand&daddr=sapphire+club+a-go-go, +177%2f37-38+soi+15, +walking+street, +pattaya, +chon+buri+20150, +thailand&hl=en&sll=12. 926776, 100. 873922&sspn=0. 00354, 0.004216&geocode=fxd6xqadqgkdbifvlbnglrdzgsn5dfygazycmtfvlbnglrdzgq%3bfvy9xqadhjydbilvd92fe5ycmtexqr2ljb3kcw&mra=ls&t=m&z=15[/url]
is the link between queen vitoria inn (
[url]http://www.queenvictoria-inn.com[/url]
) in the middle of soi 6 and sapphire club a-go-go on walking street.
2. walking street. rtff – a lot of information is on this forum. my only addition is the russian go-go seems to be called russian striptease which is about 100 meters after you passed main russian go-go called galaxy.
good (imazing) : the women do represent the sense of slavic beauty: tall, long-legged, light make-up, pale-skin, etc. but the most impressive is their pall dances – i was mesmerized, nothing similar to hips shaking i saw in others go-gos.
bad (and there are many) :
2. 1 very expensive. free entrance, but drinks start with 150 and that one is in short supply, so you would start at 350+. they have 'minimum tip'. never seen anything like this in my life of 100bt. lap dance is 1000. escort service (2 hour minimum) 3000bt – do not get confused: it is 3000 per every hour and it is inside of the club and not at all what you might think – see later.
2. 2 girls are outrageously aggressive. as an example, i was seating very next to the stage, and when they realized i wanted to see the show and not to pay attention to them, they managed to get on my eye-sight literally on stage between me and the main dancer and scream 'i am dancing for you! tips please! ' with the expression that their mob-bosses are after my life. if you come there you have to be tolerant of such behavior. i just told them that i came to see the show and i will only tip for the dances i ordered, and i did not order this one (btw, lap dances are 1000bt done in bikinis and nothing special or even good) , so please let them see the show. but they continue insisting on tips (100bt minimum lol) and in a very uncomfortable threatening manner.
i did not give any unintended tips, but i did (and gladly) give tips to the very same girls on stage. they were gorgeous and performing with almost acrobatic precision. and the same girls who just a minute ago made an impression that they were ready to eat me alive, gifted me a shy smile and an honest 'thank you'. i think the management of this club is nuts. when i came there were 4-5 people and the dancers seemed to scare them all away – i was literary the last one to leave and it was only about 10 pm. and as i said, imho this is when the talent is unsurpassed.
2. 3 hey – i loved russian girls (helps that i can speak their native language) so despite the behavior i asked one of the girls what is their escort service (2 hour minimum 3000bt each means) and was shocked when she explained that 'girls must work here: dance and ask for tips; otherwise they have problems with their bosses, so for bt3k i can take them away and they will seat and drink with me. i was so shocked that i asked, so there is no touching, and she smiled and said, 'you can tough if you are really nice with the girl' – after that answer i flew out of the club with a speed of a bullet!
having said that – if someone wants to go with me, for about 1000bt each we will have great time there: no you would not make sex with any of the girls for that money, but you will see great pall-dances.
3. beach road. newbies be careful (for those who does not want lady-boys). i am giving away my embarrassment in hope you would be warned. yesterday i picked up a beautiful (i thought girl) : petite, mild-mannered, no apple, beautiful legs (rare in asian women) , very friendly and gfe and discovered that she was a lb in my hotel where she gave her i'd and it said mr. omg, i have no idea what would have happen to me if i discovered that in my room! you have to search for the talent and be very aware of 2 things: **** – you have a real chance to be imprisoned in both countries which may ruin your life and lady-boys – i would have never believed such thing could happened to me!
4. soi 6 bars. these are brothels: you talk to the girls, drink with them, touch them, even peak into special places and then take them to the room upstairs for a short time (1 hour 1000b + 300bt bar fine and the drinks around 200bt give or take) – very special, nice, easy well orchestrated experience, but of course it is twice more expensive that br fl.
5. i like massages – i mean real massages when they massage you with their hands and feet, and then moving to the full-body with any finish you desire. honey massage and such 2000bt for blue and 2500 for red is a waste of time and money imho. i took (pm me for the name and phone#) from the first massage place on the right on soi 11 (before you reach honey) and she gives you real good gfe and good massage etc. she may not be at your service for real fuck – that is you can get in so many other places. but here you will have touching, massaging, etc. and will feel rally good and rejuvenated. damages: 1300bt to take out and 100 for taxi-bike.
newbies:
5. 1 ignore all these stupid places on 2-nd street; i found none would provide a similar service (take out the girl into your hotel and she would actually give you a massage)
5. 2 you have to go around these massage places after you have realized that this place does the services you like. 5 or even 10 times to pick up a girl you like. most of the women there are in their 50s (not even 40s) and would try to tell you that they are the only ones who are there and they are your only option. while there are girls in early 20s there, but busy with customers (once you do it, you are hooked – truly different experience for me) , so you go again and again before one would get freed and show up at the entrance for lucky you. do not take someone you do not like and before taking someone who looks good to you, talk to her if (1) she would be willing to do a real massage and (2) be friendly with you – it is a funny way of saying, i know, but with their limited english (and no thai on my own) , it is a way which allowed me to successfully choose.
5. 3 many of these places have bad private rooms with little privacy and shower located in a different place, etc. take them to your hotel, it is much better experience.
have your happy time here and treat girls well, most of them really deserve it.
Hope this works.
Here are the rest of the nudes of Miss Jane Does from Trip 2.
This is the first lady I ever bothered to take nudes of (I started taking such pics to contribute nudes to 2 message boards).2013 Trip 1 Miss Jane Doe will always hold a special place in my heart.
Yuri, very good report, I have been to the Russian / Eastern European club several times, just to look at the former CIS and eastern block beauties that I miss occasionally. They have girls from all over, Ukraine, Moldova, Russia etc. You can get very lucky if you work on one or two several times. I had one from Moldova hook up with me on her day off, she really hated it there, nothing to really write about though. They have to stay until they can pay back a certain amount of money and cover their airline flight. She really wanted to leave and go back home. The atmosphere is not to bad, the food trays are pretty decent, nothing like good olives, but it is what it is to much money for Pattaya, it is for all the ones that don't get to see or f*ck Eastern beauties. I also had issues with girls bothering the F out of me while I was trying to watch or talk to other girls, very pushy. If you want a real massage, not tuggy tuggy, you can goto Jomtien, just south of Pattaya, where I usually stay is on Soi 8 in Jomtien, right across the street they have a great massage parlor (blind) they do a great job, but for a tug tug finish Soi 5 and Soi 6 have these, and it cost between 500 and 1000 baht, depending on the girl and your negotiations.
[QUOTE=Amex Spg;1416498]This is the first lady I ever bothered to take nudes of (I started taking such pics to contribute nudes to 2 message boards).2013 Trip 1 Miss Jane Doe will always hold a special place in my heart.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detailed report and photos. ; )
I hope to be able to provide a report next month, albeit I expect my activities may be a bit more subdued.
Pardon my ignorance, but you refer to CB numerous times in your narrative, what are you referring to?
IamJohnGalt
[QUOTE=IamJohnGalt; 1416607]you refer to CB numerous times in your narrative, what are you referring to?
IamJohnGalt[/QUOTE]BR (Beach Road) = the original CB (Coconut Bar)
[url]http://www.stickmanweekly.com/StickmanBangkokWeeklyColumn2010/Coconut-Bar-Pattaya.htm[/url]
I recently read a Pattaya (Mail?) newspaper web article that a businessman just opened up a BB (BeerBar / BarBeer) named "Coconut Bar" on Pattaya Klang (Central Pattaya Road).
In the future I'll only refer to BR as that, not as CB since there's now an actual BB called Coconut Bar.
Last night was very frustrating (because I ended up along!) , the girl from Soi 6 I hooked up (I thought I did) I took her for a short time and we seem to enjoy each other company. Of course who can REALLY say?) did not return my call, though she agreed. Maybe (I want to think so) she just had a customer LT in the end of the day. I think I am the only man in Pattaya, who ended up alone in bed. I wish I had a chance to learn from AmEx how he did, but no such luck for me.
So in the morning I decided to exercise other parts of my body than the one I came here to exercise. Google returned a decent suggestion for.
[url]http://www.tonydisco.com/fitness/welcome.html[/url]
But geek like me had to spend a lot of time to learn how to find that place. Those (strange people like me) who walk with their smart phones now can find Tony's fitness center at.
[URL]http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Tonys+fitness+center+so%4012.92714,100.8832&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=41.224889,93.076172&t=m&z=16[/URL]
Stolen from a very informative.
[URL]http://www.farangfriendly.com/pattaya/gyms-fitness-centers[/URL]
, I was there today, but walking on the sun cost me a bad work out (I was so exhausted when I arrived). Now, if you go there, then
1. Take your own towel to clear the sweat (they will rent it for 40Bt)
2. Take / buy your own water before entry (they took 40 Bt for a small bottle)
3. If you need some nourishment (I buy gaderaid at 7/11) , they will be happy to sell you one banana (you guested, right?) for 40 Bt.
4. Take a lock; because if you do not, they will be happy to rent you for. 40Bt. I just pushed my back pack from machine to machine. I talked to other fellow-visitors and there were stealing from the gym, so you do need a lock or you'll carry you rbag along and it is not fun.
BTW, on the way to the Gym on the 3rd street, there was a very nice and cozy facility for 100 Bt per visit with a free towel, etc. The only issue with that facility was that it was not air-conditioned / fanned at all; otherwise, I would work out in that one.
Oh yah, this forum is about girls (not many of them were in that Gym) , so yesterday on Soi6 bars I found a number of girls I wanted to learn more about, but NONE (!) agreed to go for LT before 8 PM. I took two for ST and exhausted my budget for the day (before that I also took my favorite massage girl). With one of Soi 6 girls, we really clicked, we agreed that she would come to my room at 1:30 if I call, and I did call, but. No luck. Walking to the gym at 11 AM, I saw many men enjoying pretty Pattaya girls' company, so am feeling really stupid: probably the only man in the world who could not find a girl in Pattaya. So do not send me for an ice in Alaska, I will show you the way to Gym instead. If there is anyone who can teach poor me, I would be grateful. I am flying out on Sunday morning. And today I am waiting for 8 PM to try my luck in BB (otherwise, to the gym in the early morning!).
[QUOTE=Yuri B;1416746]BTW, on the way to the Gym on the 3rd street, there was a very nice and cozy facility for 100 Bt per visit with a free towel, etc. The only issue with that facility was that it was not air-conditioned / fanned at all; otherwise, I would work out in that one.[/QUOTE]That is my gym. It's called International. I pay 3500 baht / year versus the 8000 that Tony wanted.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1416784]That is my gym. It's called International. I pay 3500 baht / year versus the 8000 that Tony wanted.[/QUOTE]That's a great price, do they have free weights and a squat rack?
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1416788]That's a great price, do they have free weights and a squat rack?[/QUOTE]Yep. Upper body equipment is downstairs and lower body equipment is upstairs.
[QUOTE=Yuri B;1416746]I think I am the only man in Pattaya, who ended up alone in bed. I wish I had a chance to learn from AmEx how he did, but no such luck for me.[/QUOTE]- I have never been able to BF a Soi 6 lady for LT because: a) I couldn't wait until after 8 pm, be) I was too cheap to pay the higher BF of B 500+ for LT, see) the lady would change her mind about going with me for LT, the) I would just get a FL at that point, and / or e) I just go to bed alone (which happened fairly often).
- When you're doing Soi 6 STs, get their phone numbers in the ST room or just ask them discretely in the bar (you don't even have to buy them a LD, though that helps). Then about 11:45 pm, start texting / SMSing 3 to 5 or so of those Soi 6 ladies and offer LT. The first one to meet with you for a FL LT is the lucky lady. The other lady (s) who wanted to do FL LT with you you'll just have to text "I wait for you long time but you not go with me, sorry but now I have lady. You want go with me tomorrow night for long time?" so she's a good (but not guaranteed) candidate for the next night.
- Until 11:45 pm comes, or even before 8 pm, try the BBs on Soi Buakhao or other areas with less tourists / mongers. Drinking Street opens at 6 pm, you could hit up Pattaya Plaza, etc. Fewer tourists / mongers means more ladies ready for a LT customer.
- And of course there's the FLs (especially BR) where what you save on BF / LD you can put towards paying a bit more to the FL for her LT services. And obviously you're doing much better than me at mongering: you're in Pattaya, and I'm not. Happy going.
Maybe I'm spoiled or maybe my eye site is much better then everyone here. I have been in Pattaya for only 1 night, but someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I have been around the world. So far this place has to be the most over rated on quality I have been too. I went through the posts, walked around, went in places, and the best I found was maybe a fugly 5 at most. There are so many she boys in this town, it is just out right the nasty place I have been too in the world.
Someone with top taste, that perfers at least an 8+ provide advice.
Now lets define an 8+. So we are all on the same page. Some hottie that turns almost every head in the place.
I'm really starting to think ISG is being taken over by a bunch of cheap ass, old men that only use this board to save $20 a night on a hotel or to find a $15 hourly gf rate. Quality of reporting around the world really has went down hill over the past 5 years.
I swear, I'm starting to envy older men with really bad eye site. I'm looking forward to having your poor eye site, but not yet in my life! I demand quality still in life. No offense, everyone has their taste. But Can anyone help?
FYI. Stay away from BR and Soi 6. It is not even worth the time to drive by in a taxi. For anyone newbie with quality in mind.
[QUOTE=DRobin; 1416157]On. 9th April, my craving for white skinned ladies (please don't judge me for my weakness for whites) got a surge and found an Hindi Speaking uzbek woman of 30ish [pic attached]. She told her name is "Nagina" and I didn't buy that. But what's in name. She was lousy in bed, tried her mechanical skill to milk me in seconds, however after 15 min and 2 changes of position when her quick milking mission failed to deliver she was begging me to let her give a handjob. It was pissing me off yet I tried my best to keep the hard on. Banged her for another 5 min and ended on her ass.[/QUOTE]Great report. What was the damage for this Uzbek Girl. Are white skinned girls easy to find there? And please enlighten on the prevalent rates.
Ned.
[QUOTE=Dmd Joe; 1417038]I swear, I'm starting to envy older men with really bad eye site. I'm looking forward to having your poor eye site, but not yet in my life!
Can anyone help?[/QUOTE]Try pepper spray / mace!
Long time monger, first time to Pattaya. Going end of this month.
Disclaimer: I've done my due diligence and searched, read and studied reports and all the information out there (at least all the info I found).
Wondering if someone can point me in the right direction in terms of what to do regarding getting my bearings the first night I get there. I'm relatively familiar with the insides of the bars when I get there, as far as I can tell the outside is the sensory overload portion of the matter.
Also, in the recent past, what are the definite do's and the definite don'ts (since I know things have changed in the last few years).
Thanks
[QUOTE=Dmd Joe;1417038]Someone with top taste, that perfers at least an 8+ provide advice. Now lets define an 8+. So we are all on the same page. Some hottie that turns almost every head in the place.[/QUOTE]I think I have pretty high standards as far as girls go. Yet, I don't look for 8"s. Instead I look for solid 7* girls with good attitudes and lo and behold once in a while an 8* girl comes my way. I advise you to do the same. But that said you should definitely try What's Up A Go GO. If you don't find some girls there that turn your head then you are just not into Thai girls and should get on the first jet to Rio, São Paulo or Medellin. Also check out Super Girl, Sapphire, Baccara, Airport, Peppermint, Fahrenheit, and Alcatraz. I believe you will find a lot of very good looking girls in these bars. YMMV - have fun.
[QUOTE=Dmd Joe;1417038]Now lets define an 8+. So we are all on the same page. Some hottie that turns almost every head in the place.[/QUOTE]- I second Natty Bumpo's advice.
- Between 9 pm and 10:30 pm (before the best ones are barfined) check out the line-up at these WS GGs (Walking Street GoGos) : 1) Baccarra (downstairs & upstairs) .2) Superbaby (and maybe Supergirl across from Superbaby) , and 3) What's Up. Be forewarned: sometimes the hottest ladies offer the coldest performances.
- If you still don't see any 8+, might as well just ditch Pattaya and head over to Europe (German FKK Clubs, Prague's Sex Park) or South America (I hear the ladies are lovely in Brazil and Colombia).
[QUOTE=Dmd Joe; 1417038]Maybe I'm spoiled or maybe my eye site is much better then everyone here. I have been in Pattaya for only 1 night, but someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I have been around the world. So far this place has to be the most over rated on quality I have been too. I went through the posts, walked around, went in places, and the best I found was maybe a fugly 5 at most. There are so many she boys in this town, it is just out right the nasty place I have been too in the world.
Someone with top taste, that perfers at least an 8+ provide advice.
Now lets define an 8+. So we are all on the same page. Some hottie that turns almost every head in the place.
I'm really starting to think ISG is being taken over by a bunch of cheap ass, old men that only use this board to save $20 a night on a hotel or to find a $15 hourly gf rate. Quality of reporting around the world really has went down hill over the past 5 years.
I swear, I'm starting to envy older men with really bad eye site. I'm looking forward to having your poor eye site, but not yet in my life! I demand quality still in life. No offense, everyone has their taste. But Can anyone help?
FYI. Stay away from BR and Soi 6. It is not even worth the time to drive by in a taxi. For anyone newbie with quality in mind.[/QUOTE]Well I guess you will get some rants from this report, hehe, talking down Pattaya and all. I am no big Pattaya fan myself but go down there for a day or two as I have a few fellow countrymen living in the area so we meet up every now and then. This 8+ girls of yours will maby not be someone elses 8+ girls and in general 8+ do not come in great numbers into Pattaya (as far as I know). They will for sure not crowd the streets in Pattaya. Where I have occationaly met beautiful girls is in the WS nightclubs. I bet you will see a few 8 girls lets say in Insomnia. I would not know but I am sure you will see them in some GoGo as well.
What I can recomend you is to dive into the more upscale BKK nightlife(saving that extra buck is not important to you it seems). You will also get some rants by doing so probably bcs it is not common practice by the average mongerer. Demo, Narz, Slim&Fix, Route66 are all nightclubs on the upside in Bangkoks nightlife. Not the easiest place to hook up with girls and these places are not common girl pick up places. Some will probably tell you you need to speak Thai in those places but I can only say "nam" in Thai and doing relatively fine as more and more Thai citygirls speak english (but ofcourse with some Thai speaking ability it will be more easy). If you can`t find a 8 or better girl here then you as Natty and Amex tells you should probably head somewhere else bcs then you can not see Thai beauty (we are all different in what we like). But if you can not hook up with beauties back home you will also have problems here as same mechanisms applies. Singapore, Macau, HongKong, Jakarta, Denpasar, Shanghai, Manila (Makati and surroundings have a few good nightclubs) and Beijing should do the trick (just to pick a few places not so far as Europe or South America).
Happy mongering.
[QUOTE=Dmd Joe;1417038]I'm really starting to think ISG is being taken over by a bunch of cheap ass, old men that only use this board to save $20 a night on a hotel or to find a $15 hourly gf rate. Quality of reporting around the world really has went down hill over the past 5 years.[/QUOTE]The whole world is enjoying this process of "De-qualifying" levels into cheap. Cheap. Cheap. Low csot flights, low cost hotels, low cost WG. Everybody is obsessed by all this and this is the result.
Then we can discuss for ages on the specific mongering world, but it seems it is not any different than the "outside" world.
I have a few thoughts on who started all this (ie the market and the industry) but it'd be OT and also will raise somne flaming and useless debate, so I stop it here.
[QUOTE=Dmd Joe;1417038]Maybe I'm spoiled or maybe my eye site is much better then everyone here. .[/QUOTE]Do not forget that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So go imagine a 50+ chap (I am 50+) coming from a western country, maybe a country where access to ladies is difficult for various reasons, including the social and financial status of the guy.
This chap, maybe a bit of a cheap charlie at home, maybe induced also by his earnings and job, will meet a 30 to 35+ thai lady who is ready to go with him (closing her eyes? Money talks?). He is delighted and rates her a stunner as at home no woman of that age is not only available but still has a decent body (when dressed) , will not dress in a kinkyand sexy way (showing off legs, amber skin, high heels, a bit of a slutty attitude: don't we men al like a horny lady aside us?) being touchy and flirting and so on so on. No western WG will be like that, they are all "wham bam thank you ma'm"
Those guys will open their heart (and wallet, whatever it contains) to these girls.
Have a look at the guys walking around (I see this in BKK) with their western ladies (wifes etc). No wonder why a 35+ tahi lady is a stunner (to their eyes) I comparison with the everyday partner. Not to mention the sexavailaibility you can get from a WG compared with the one from the lady walking buy.
I am always wodnering what goes in the head of the wifes when are walking around BKK or Beach Road and see these couples of uncle (he looks like her husband) and nieces (from Thailand) Do they feel the competition they are engaged? Do they have a clue on what is going on (certainly they do)? Will they let the husband coming alone in a trip to LOS?
[QUOTE=Dmd Joe;1417038]. There are so many she boys in this town, it is just out right the nasty place I have been too in the world.[/QUOTE]It is true that there is a high percentage of ladyboys in Thailand, the reasons are many and this is not the right palce to debate. But if many of them hit the roads it is not only for they own earnings, but as there is a market for them too. So check the guy sitting next to you in the plane. Maybe he goes there for taht! LOL
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[QUOTE=Dmd Joe;1417038]Maybe I'm spoiled or maybe my eye site is much better then everyone here. I have been in Pattaya for only 1 night, but someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I have been around the world. So far this place has to be the most over rated on quality I have been too.[/QUOTE]You are right on, Dmd Joe, too many people looking for cheap deals and easily satisified. I have not been to Pattaya lately, last time I went, about 10 years ago, I was not impressed. The only good looking girls I saw at that time were in some karaok. I don't know how it works since I don't speak Thai, so I didn't go, but overall when I walked through all the go go bars and all those walking around the Marriot, I was not able to find a single girl can compared with what I typically find in China, like Dongguan.
This time I am coming into town taking my 8+ Chinese GF with me, since she was pretty sure I will just enjoy Pattaya without looking at any other girls there. But if you have found some club / bar with good looking girls, I will be interested too, since my GF will be willing to do 3some if the other girl is beautiful as well.
I have not found any post about karaok / KTV in Pattaya, but I bet all the good looking girls work inside those places only.
OS
[QUOTE=Old South; 1417293]You are right on, Dmd Joe, too many people looking for cheap deals and easily satisified. I have not been to Pattaya lately, last time I went, about 10 years ago, I was not impressed. The only good looking girls I saw at that time were in some karaok. I don't know how it works since I don't speak Thai, so I didn't go, but overall when I walked through all the go go bars and all those walking around the Marriot, I was not able to find a single girl can compared with what I typically find in China, like Dongguan.
This time I am coming into town taking my 8+ Chinese GF with me, since she was pretty sure I will just enjoy Pattaya without looking at any other girls there. But if you have found some club / bar with good looking girls, I will be interested too, since my GF will be willing to do 3some if the other girl is beautiful as well.
I have not found any post about karaok / KTV in Pattaya, but I bet all the good looking girls work inside those places only.
OS[/QUOTE]To OLD south
If you are not Impressed 10 yr ago you will not like it now Pattaya is worst than 10 yr ago everything cost much more and girl quality is worst and why even come here and bring your hot girl friend from China what is your point, Pattaya is a place monger come here to get cheap sex you better off take her to Shanghai or Bejing or even stay in CP to get a hot KTV girl there for your 3some travel all the way to Pattaya for that DUMB DUMB and STUPID.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1417318]To OLD south
If you are not Impressed 10 yr ago you will not like it now Pattaya is worst than 10 yr ago everything cost much more and girl quality is worst and why even come here and bring your hot girl friend from China what is your point, Pattaya is a place monger come here to get cheap sex you better off take her to Shanghai or Bejing or even stay in CP to get a hot KTV girl there for your 3some travel all the way to Pattaya for that DUMB DUMB and STUPID.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]I am a former regular visitor to Thailand but stopped going there and started visiting China instead a little over ten years ago. I found the Chinese girls more beautiful. However, it is more expensive in China and the girl's attitudes are not as good as in Thailand, so overall I would not say that the experience in China is better than Thailand.
[QUOTE=Turgid;1417414]I am a former regular visitor to Thailand but stopped going there and started visiting China instead a little over ten years ago. I found the Chinese girls more beautiful. However, it is more expensive in China and the girl's attitudes are not as good as in Thailand, so overall I would not say that the experience in China is better than Thailand.[/QUOTE]Plus the girls in China don't have asses like the girl in Thailand!
[QUOTE=Dmd Joe;1417038]Maybe I'm spoiled or maybe my eye site is much better then everyone here. I have been in Pattaya for only 1 night, but someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I have been around the world. So far this place has to be the most over rated on quality I have been too. I went through the posts, walked around, went in places, and the best I found was maybe a fugly 5 at most.[/QUOTE]IMHO, I think the problem is not with your eyes, but with your attention span here in Pattaya. If you ask Amex Spg (need to PM) , he will e-mail you his previous report where I found his friend 13 VERY pretty. I wish he could have introduced us, but he left not waiting for me to come. How unfortunate for me.
Anyhow, it is much harder job to look in a town with hundred of thousand WGs and sort out among, old, very old, those who should pay us to get laid, and yah. All these original individuals. First it is very time consuming and second it is actually expensive. If you ask what is 100 Bt drink does for you? My answer is that yesterday it ended up to $76USD for me. And that is before I found what I wanted. So you add $76USD to $174 (1000Bt BF, + 2500 for LT, + 1000 for dinner + 500 for tips) and you get almost Eastern European prices, but still way cheaper than in Shanghai, but you lost hours of time choosing / selecting and if you do not like the process, you can blame you eye-sight.
But while you are here, give this a try. Even on Soi 6, you can find what you are looking eventually. At least I hope. Look at this experience positively at least while you are here, like in a saying: "Pessimists are usually right, but they do not live that long."
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1417196]What I can recomend you is to dive into the more upscale BKK nightlife (saving that extra buck is not important to you it seems). You will also get some rants by doing so probably bcs it is not common practice by the average mongerer. Demo, Narz, Slim&Fix, Route66 are all nightclubs on the upside in Bangkoks nightlife. Not the easiest place to hook up with girls and these places are not common girl pick up places. Some will probably tell you you need to speak Thai in those places but I can only say "nam" in Thai and doing relatively fine as more and more Thai citygirls speak english (but ofcourse with some Thai speaking ability it will be more easy). If you can`t find a 8 or better girl here then you as Natty and Amex tells you should probably head somewhere else bcs then you can not see Thai beauty (we are all different in what we like). But if you can not hook up with beauties back home you will also have problems here as same mechanisms applies. Singapore, Macau, HongKong, Jakarta, Denpasar, Shanghai, Manila (Makati and surroundings have a few good nightclubs) and Beijing should do the trick (just to pick a few places not so far as Europe or South America).
Happy mongering.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure why you recommend those places. I'm not saying to avoid them but he was in very low quality places, beach road and soil 6. Kinda like a guy fed up with his piece of shit Ford Escort and a car salesmen suggesting he take a gander at the new lineup of Porsche 911 LOL.
And what do you mean exactly that you're doing fine in those places? They get so crowded and loud on the weekends, is it your M. O to go stand near a hot chick in the middle of the crowd and start dry humping her?
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1417494]I'm not sure why you recommend those places. I'm not saying to avoid them but he was in very low quality places, beach road and soil 6. Kinda like a guy fed up with his piece of shit Ford Escort and a car salesmen suggesting he take a gander at the new lineup of Porsche 911 LOL.
And what do you mean exactly that you're doing fine in those places? They get so crowded and loud on the weekends, is it your M. O to go stand near a hot chick in the middle of the crowd and start dry humping her?[/QUOTE]Yes you are absolutely correct. I go there to dryhump the girls. Gives me great pleasure. To bad security won't let me finish. LOL. I base my recomendations from my point of view and I happens to like a tad upscale nightlife every now and then (as I do in Jakarta, KL, Singa, Shanghai, Beijing, Caracas, Bogota, Sao Paolo, Manila, Oslo, London, Las Vegas and so on). I agree with you though that there are many places / areas with girls between Escort and Porche. My report was based to the guy who seem to be bored from Ford Escort quality so why not just guide him to where I find the most attractive girls in BKK(from my knowledge so far if I spot better places I will go there as I am dynamic). For me it is all about the combi of many things(quick take outs from BG to get some FL's at the usual mongernightspots to meet a few girls from datingsites to try hunt in uscale nightclubs where normal mechanisms applies for having a girl)..
By relatively fine I mean I have met a few girls in those places.
[QUOTE=Yuri B; 1417444]IMHO, I think the problem is not with your eyes, but with your attention span here in Pattaya. If you ask Amex Spg (need to PM) , he will e-mail you his previous report where I found his friend 13 VERY pretty. I wish he could have introduced us, but he left not waiting for me to come. How unfortunate for me.
Anyhow, it is much harder job to look in a town with hundred of thousand WGs and sort out among, old, very old, those who should pay us to get laid, and yah. All these original individuals. First it is very time consuming and second it is actually expensive. If you ask what is 100 Bt drink does for you? My answer is that yesterday it ended up to $76USD for me. And that is before I found what I wanted. So you add $76USD to $174 (1000Bt BF, + 2500 for LT, + 1000 for dinner + 500 for tips) and you get almost Eastern European prices, but still way cheaper than in Shanghai, but you lost hours of time choosing / selecting and if you do not like the process, you can blame you eye-sight.
But while you are here, give this a try. Even on Soi 6, you can find what you are looking eventually. At least I hope. Look at this experience positively at least while you are here, like in a saying: "Pessimists are usually right, but they do not live that long."[/QUOTE]Last night I stayed pretty much in the Walking Street area. Went into many places. I seen maybe one 8 in my rating. Rest fugly women. Then around 1:45 to 2am. A bunch of I would call them Semi-Pros walk the street from the East. Looking for late night hook ups. I seen 4 to 5 really 8's walking. I would recommend that as the easiest way to pick out what you want. There are so, so, so many places with 5 to 100 fugly women in it, you will wear yourself out.
[QUOTE=Dmd Joe;1417559]Last night I stayed pretty much in the Walking Street area. Went into many places. I seen maybe one 8 in my rating. Rest fugly women. Then around 1:45 to 2am. A bunch of I would call them Semi-Pros walk the street from the East. Looking for late night hook ups. I seen 4 to 5 really 8's walking. I would recommend that as the easiest way to pick out what you want. There are so, so, so many places with 5 to 100 fugly women in it, you will wear yourself out.[/QUOTE]Good to hear, so there are still some possibility. I was about to cancel my Pattaya trip earlier!
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1417318]To OLD south
If you are not Impressed 10 yr ago you will not like it now Pattaya is worst than 10 yr ago everything cost much more and girl quality is worst and why even come here and bring your hot girl friend from China what is your point, Pattaya is a place monger come here to get cheap sex you better off take her to Shanghai or Bejing or even stay in CP to get a hot KTV girl there for your 3some travel all the way to Pattaya for that DUMB DUMB and STUPID.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Well, remember Pattaya hotels were really nice with big swimming pools.
OS
[QUOTE=Dmd Joe;1417559]Last night I stayed pretty much in the Walking Street area. Went into many places. I seen maybe one 8 in my rating. Rest fugly women. Then around 1:45 to 2am. A bunch of I would call them Semi-Pros walk the street from the East. Looking for late night hook ups. I seen 4 to 5 really 8's walking. I would recommend that as the easiest way to pick out what you want. There are so, so, so many places with 5 to 100 fugly women in it, you will wear yourself out.[/QUOTE]It looks like you have confused the purpose of venue. Pattaya is for great fun at affordable prices. It is the Big C of mongering. Well you are not going to go into Big C looking to purchase a 10 carat diamond necklace. It seems you were hoping it to be a Beverly Hills boutique. It's your trip. You can walk around beeching and disappointed if you want to or you can get your ass off your shoulders and decide to make your own fun.
P.S. Did you even attempt to talk to the ladies you perceived to be 8s, or did you just let them pass you by?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1417439]Plus the girls in China don't have asses like the girl in Thailand![/QUOTE]To Mr Enternational.
If you are a ASS man go to Brazil girl have the best ASS there nice and firm, I like small tight ASS myself so Chinese girl ass is fine with me.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Old South; 1417669]Good to hear, so there are still some possibility. I was about to cancel my Pattaya trip earlier!
Well, remember Pattaya hotels were really nice with big swimming pools.
OS[/QUOTE]To Old South
If you want to go swimming then take your hot Chinese girl to Phuket nice beach there, if you want a threesome just bring 2 girl and stay in a nice beach front resort with a king size bed.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1417696]It looks like you have confused the purpose of venue. Pattaya is for great fun at affordable prices. It is the Big C of mongering. Well you are not going to go into Big C looking to purchase a 10 carat diamond necklace. It seems you were hoping it to be a Beverly Hills boutique. It's your trip. You can walk around beeching and disappointed if you want to or you can get your ass off your shoulders and decide to make your own fun.
P. S. Did you even attempt to talk to the ladies you perceived to be 8s, or did you just let them pass you by?[/QUOTE]Mr. E. Is right.
I don't think Mr. Joe would know what to do with an 8 if he saw one.
I was out last night in Walking street. I went to three different go-go's and found a number of 8's in each of them. There are many 7's. 8's and better all over Pattaya. They can be found waiting tables in restaurants, working in shops and markets, offices and malls. Most good go-go bars have at least 2 or 3 stunners on any given night.
Maybe Mr. Joe just doesn't find Asian women attractive.
I've never gone to a place to monger and concentrated on all the women who are not my type or all the guys that are there. Fuck that. I am getting in where I fit in and going for what I know and grabbing one of the best for myself. After that all else is history. You can't fuck all of them. Fuck the ones you like and forget about the rest.
OK. Everybody talks about 5s, and 8s, etc, but nobody posts any visual aids. So, here is a pic of a young lady I found in a Soi 6 bar. We spent several days together and had loads of fun.
How do you guys rate her? 5? 10? Somewhere between?
Now the down side is that this pic is 10 years old. This sort of woman in PTY is much more scarce now than before. Despite the naysayers, Thailand's economy is booming and far fewer girls are going into the P4P business, and the ones who do aren't nearly as attractive as their counterparts from a few years ago. It's a fact, whether or not one wants to believe it.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1417794]How do you guys rate her? 5? 10? Somewhere between? Now the down side is that this pic is 10 years old.[/QUOTE]- Phordphan: I'd rate her a 7. Though on my grading scale (A = great, B = good, C = okay, D = bad, F = terrible) she's an Overall C = Face C + Body B (or maybe a Body C).
- Mr. E, Yuri B, Daddy07, Phordphan and almost everyone else: I think Dmd Joe (& FoxRot & Harold444) is just trolling. Similar to how I was at McDonald's the other day and I started complaining why isn't there filet mignon, lamb steaks and Absolut vodka martinis on the menu. Instead of McD's, I should have gone to a steakhouse.
- I'd rate these women a 7 or better (yes, some of 'them I even consider an 8).
- On my scale they're Overall B or better = Face B or better + Body B or better.
- Of course I had the advantage of inspecting 'them naked. Sorry, no naked pics of these ladies as I didn't take nudes until 2013.
- These women are also a 7 or better IMHO.
- Judging a woman's beauty is pretty subjective. Sometimes I flip-flop between deciding if a lady Friend has a Face B (good) or Face C (ok) + Body B (good) or Body C (ok).
[QUOTE=Amex Spg; 1417807]- I'd rate these women a 7 or better (yes, some of 'them I even consider an 8).
- On my scale they're Overall B or better = Face B or better + Body B or better.
- Of course I had the advantage of inspecting 'them naked. Sorry, no naked pics of these ladies as I didn't take nudes until 2013.[/QUOTE]I just got a chance to download the reports earlier. When the hell did you have time to write all of that? It's bigger than a dissertation. I hope you included how they give out the girls' numbers at whatever the hell the name of that place was.
[QUOTE=Amex Spg;1417807]- I'd rate these women a 7 or better (yes, some of 'them I even consider an 8). On my scale they're Overall B or better = Face B or better + Body B or better.[/QUOTE]Amex,
I like your 2nd scale – overall B or better Face + Body, but you left out a critical factor: the attitude, personality of the girl and the chemistry between you. That can make all the difference in the world. Stars don't matter in person.
Now I would like to make a few points: 1. You obviously had some good times in LOS and that is all that really counts. 2. You backed up your words with photos. Too many punks come on the ISG, spout a lot of BS, and then contribute nothing of any use or importance to anybody but themselves. Standup members like yourself keep this forum real. 3. Just to reinforce how I feel about this sort of thing on the forum, here are a few photos of a couple of my girls from my Feb – April 2013 trip. I think they look pretty good, but I don't really care what anybody else thinks. The thing that counts is that these 2 girls and many others showed me a real good time while I was visiting. The 2nd girl was really good! But this is just the tip of the iceberg. I met and shagged many great girls on this trip and reunited with a couple of my special LT girls. As far as I am concerned LOS is still #1. I WILL write up my trip report. Soon.
Here are a few more shots of some nice Thai girls I have had the pleasure to hook up with. Now who the fuck said that Thailand was over?
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1417747]To Old South
If you want to go swimming then take your hot Chinese girl to Phuket nice beach there, if you want a threesome just bring 2 girl and stay in a nice beach front resort with a king size bed.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]She wanted to go to BKK, so that is where we are spending most of the time, I like those romantic rooftop bars, and maybe more likely to find the 3some girl in BKK. Phuket is too much trouble as I have limited time, don't want to fly domestic in Thailand, so I thought Pattaya might be a good one day get away from BKK with nicer pools and some good home coming after 10 years.
It is very nice that people are sharing photos, but looks like there is no comparison with girls in CP China, maybe BKK have better quality, I will find out and report. Maybe Pattaya girls will be fun, even if they are not as pretty, and certainly make my GF feels good, so I might actually enjoy my stay.
OS
[QUOTE=Old South;1417871]It is very nice that people are sharing photos, but looks like there is no comparison with girls in CP China, maybe BKK have better quality, I will find out and report.[/QUOTE]- Old South: Now I'm curious what these CP China WGs (working girls) look like. Please post some photos of them so we can do a side-by-side comparison of Patts and CP China ladies. Should you be unable to post photos, just stop trolling as you're just talking the talk but not walking the walk. I'm going to guess that guys who want LBFM will prefer Pattaya ladies, and guys who prefer tall, porcelain skin China dolls will prefer the CP ladies.
- Mr. Enternational: I have lots of time as I've been unemployed the last 3 years. I'll be doing LOS 2013 Trip 3 either Aug. Sep or Oct. Nov. Hope to see you and a few other BMs (board members) there. After Trip 3 I'll start working again. Maybe.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1417794]We spent several days together and had loads of fun.[/QUOTE]And that's what fucking matters!
This number system for girls is bullshit to say the least!
Was she fun? Did you enjoy your time with her? Would you see her again?
That is what LOS is all about IMHO!
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1417870]Here are a few more shots of some nice Thai girls I have had the pleasure to hook up with. Now who the fuck said that Thailand was over?[/QUOTE]Which hotel is that in the first picture?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1417789]Fuck the ones you like and forget about the rest.[/QUOTE]Yes, but I seem to like them all dammit!
[QUOTE=Amex Spg;1417878]- Mr. Enternational: I have lots of time as I've been unemployed the last 3 years. I'll be doing LOS 2013 Trip 3 either Aug. Sep or Oct. Nov. Hope to see you and a few other BMs (board members) there. After Trip 3 I'll start working again. Maybe.[/QUOTE]None of my business but the previous job must have left you with a lot of money! LOL
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1417829]Amex,
I like your 2nd scale – overall B or better Face + Body, but you left out a critical factor: the attitude, personality of the girl and the chemistry between you. That can make all the difference in the world. Stars don't matter in person.[/QUOTE]Natty and Amex, I must say you have good taste when it comes to womens looks! In my scale all of them are 8-10.
But like somebody wrote the other day, looks is not all, chemistry is also important!
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1417870]Here are a few more shots of some nice Thai girls I have had the pleasure to hook up with. Now who the fuck said that Thailand was over?[/QUOTE]And these are working girls from Pattaya?
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1417870]Here are a few more shots of some nice Thai girls I have had the pleasure to hook up with. Now who the fuck said that Thailand was over?[/QUOTE]I wrote my post before seeing this one from you, and yes, these pictures look a lot better then what I have typically seen posted on this board. I would say these girls are definitely the top ranking quality when compared with girls in CP.
If Pattaya currently have girls like these, then I will also try my luck. Thanks for sharing.
OS
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1417870]Here are a few more shots of some nice Thai girls I have had the pleasure to hook up with. Now who the fuck said that Thailand was over?[/QUOTE]That are real nice stunners, and it Shows Quality in Thailand is still the best. BTW where can I get the contactdata of the second Girl Ai? Just my taste
If possible can you PM me?
[QUOTE=Old South;1417871]It is very nice that people are sharing photos, but looks like there is no comparison with girls in CP China, maybe BKK have better quality, I will find out and report.[/QUOTE]For the past 6 trips to South East Asia I have included a 5 day layover in Macau. I love the Chinese sauna girls and think many of them are gorgeous. Better looking than Thai girls? Some are and some are not. The problem is I do not speak Mandarin and that places a ceiling on how far I can go GFE wise with my Chinese girls. Chairman Mao really did a number on the Chinese people wiping out any knowledge of the English language and imbedding a deep seeded mistrust even dislike of foreigners in the minds of the Chinese masses. As a result many Chinese girls have a prejudice against Caucasians. I don't find it in the saunas, but it is really obvious at the Lisboa Racetrack where beautiful Chinese girls refuse to even give eye contact to a western looking man, but will fawn and beg some old Chinese geezer with a cancer cough and brown stained teeth to take them upstairs. If not for the language problem, the racial prejudice, and the crime; I would travel more in China and at the very least check out CP, Shanghai, and Beijing.
The sauna girls will not let me take pictures of them. I brought a Swan Pen Camera into the saunas because I wanted to have a record of comparison between these Chinese girls and Thai girls, but the girls would not let me take any pictures. So please Old South, post some pics of your girls. I know Chinese girls can be very beautiful and I would love to see some of your girls.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1417885]And that's what fucking matters! This number system for girls is bullshit to say the least! Was she fun? Did you enjoy your time with her? Would you see her again? That is what LOS is all about IMHO![/QUOTE]I agree! When I walk into a bar or massage parlor I look for attractive girls. If there is more than one girl that catches my eye then I start to make comparisons. But looks just get my attention. The really important criteria is will this girl show me a good time. To put it another way, a girl's beauty or sexiness is necessary in order for me to consider getting it on with her, but not sufficient. I require a girl with a good attitude and one that wants to get laid by me. And believe me, there are plenty of these girls in LOS that fit that bill.
[QUOTE=Dextro Sol;1417924]Natty and Amex, I must say you have good taste when it comes to women’s looks! In my scale all of them are 8-10. But like somebody wrote the other day, looks is not all, chemistry is also important![/QUOTE]That was me. If there is no chemistry or the girl has a bad attitude you are not going to have a very satisfying experience. Who wants to shag a pretty hole just lying there in bed? I want more and 95% of the time I get it to varying degrees.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1417935]And these are working girls from Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Good question Goatscrot. I spend much more time in BKK than Pattaya. I like Pat, but I am basically a big city guy. So naturally most of my girls are BKK girls. 3 out of the 8 girls I just posted are Pattaya working girls. Down below are 2 more Pattaya girls.
[QUOTE=RBDave;1417889]Which hotel is that in the first picture?[/QUOTE]The girl in blue is from La Belle in BKK. I took pics of her in one of the rooms there before and after. She has large natural 'C cup' breasts and had very good attitude. Her smile is genuine. It was a good session. All of the girls I have posted showed me a real good time. Some more than others. I have had repeats with many of them. I would not be posting shots of these girls if I did not have fond memories of them.
Don't ask me for their names or where they work. In most cases I won't divulge that information over the internet. I have posted their faces to make my point about quality Thai working girls. I made an effort to post these girls in non-compromising positions so I think I have shown them due respect. As I said these girls are just the tip of the iceberg. Any of you guys can find girls just as good looking or better. Just put on a smile and act like a good guy. It is amazing how many really sexy, nice P4P girls there are in LOS. The supply is so large; there is no way to make a dent. Even if I were to shag 3 or 4 different women a day, I would not get even close to fucking all the girls I would like to fuck. I am forced to ration my attention and that means if I meet up with this girl today, I won't have time to see that other girl. Maybe I will see her tomorrow, maybe not. Mongering in LOS becomes a auction pit and the girls are all offering up their service and sex to you. There is simply not enough time and I do not have enough vital fluids to do all the girls I want like to do. It's really hard, LOL, but because there is such an oversupply of attractive, eager to please, girls hanging around BKK and Pattaya, one can be very selective and take only the girls you are really attracted too and who are flashing all the right signals. I don't see how anybody can have a bad time here, but then again there are all kinds of people who come to Thailand so I guess it is possible if you have a bad attitude or behave like an ass.
Good will hunting to everybody. NB.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1417886]Not joking here.
I'd rate her maybe a 3. 88. She aint no nadia comenici the Russian gymnast who scored 10s, from back in the day.[/QUOTE]Which was my point, exactly. I've had guys tell me she was a 10. Other, like you, think she's below average. Personally, I love spinners and thought she was an 8. 5. Her personality may have figured into that equation, as she was a lot of fun to be with. And, personally, I don't think Nadia was all that attractive.
I liked Amex's girls, but only 2 were 8s, and most were 6s, IMO. I guaran-damn-tee you that the prettiest ones weren't found in Pattaya these days, which was the original reason for this subject.
My point was that beauty is soooo subjective, there is hardly any point in criticizing anybody about their taste. Rating systems are practically worthless. If she's fun, if you have a good time, then who's to argue? I look for good service and a good time, not just model-quality looks. Some of my best memories were with average looking girls, and some of my worst duds were with beauties.
[QUOTE=Amex Spg; 1417878]-
- Mr. Enternational: I have lots of time as I've been unemployed the last 3 years. I'll be doing LOS 2013 Trip 3 either Aug. Sep or Oct. Nov. Hope to see you and a few other BMs (board members) there. After Trip 3 I'll start working again. Maybe.[/QUOTE]Tough life! Great pictures. Thanks for sharing.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1418048]I liked Amex's girls, but only 2 were 8s, and most were 6s, IMO. I guaran-damn-tee you that the prettiest ones weren't found in Pattaya these days, which was the original reason for this subject.
My point was that beauty is soooo subjective, there is hardly any point in criticizing anybody about their taste. Rating systems are practically worthless.[/QUOTE]Phordphan: The 20 friends I posted photos of I met / did them all in Patts. Some other facts about those 20:
- Most of 'them came from Isaan, BKK, Phayao, wherever but they were in Patts when I hooked up with them.
- 13 of them were FLs that I paid ST B 500 or LT B 1, 000 to B 1, 500 + applicable tips / taxi.
- 4 were Soi 6 ladies that I paid total B 1, 000 + tip + maybe LD = BF B 300 + ST B 700 + tip + maybe LD. In the photos each Soi 6 lady: 1) is standing in front of the bar inside 3 Angels bar giving the "V" sign. 2) standing in a Red Point Bar ST room with her arms crossed. 3) in a Soi 6 room wearing the black pleather top and beige shorts. 4) I'm standing next to her in a yellow shirt & she's wearing a white button shirt and red skirt.
- 1 was a Sabai Dee soapie girl that my friend paid on my behalf ST B 2, 500 (I bought her a drink and tipped her B 200). I'm next to her in the red wife-beater and she's wearing the cream-colored mini-skirt.
- 1 BF'd from a BB back in 2007 when I was a newb and I overpaid (but she was pretty good performer, and first lady to ever tea-bag me) I think: total B 1, 300 = BF B 300 + ST B 1, 000. She's wearing the orange halter / tube top.
- 1 BF'd in 2013 for total B 1, 800 + LD = BF B 300 + LT B 1, 500 + LD. Her name's Tac, she's laying on my bed wearing the floral dress. I popped her cherry ass, she did as many BBBJCIM as I wanted and she swallowed.
Natty Bumpo & Phordphan:
- Yep, as long as the monger's happy with his lady Friend, everyone else's opinion is moot. Due to my limited budget, I tap plenty of 1 to 6 looking ladies, but for about ST B 500 I'm usually pretty happy with the outcome.
- I have my grading system (A, B, C.) mostly for my own amusement / memories.
- My full rating system is "Overall Value X = Face X + Body X + Service X + Total Cost Baht X, XXXX" where looks are 50% weighted, service (ie attitude / performance / chemistry) is 50% weighted and how much I had to spend on her (BF, ST / LT, incidentals, etc) determines if she was a good value overall.
- I'll concede to everybody that I sleep with many unattractive women, but I can only do so much when I'm usually paying a measly ST B 500 to B 700 and LT B 1, 000 to B 1, 500. If I had the money I'd get the stunners from Baccara, Superababy, Sensations and so on, but that would cost BF B 700+ and ST B 2, 000+ or LT B 3, 000+ because I lack game and I'm too ugly to warrant a discount on ST or LT from the GoGo stunners. And of course I would screen for the stunners who are a 10 in looks and a 10 in attitude / chemistry. Alas, those ladies don't come cheap so it's just wishful thinking on my part.
Bionicman: I slaved at my previous job for a decade and saved / invested enough to have bought my house for US $120, 000 (no mortage / rent payments to worry about). Other than my house I'm pretty broke after 3 years of being jobless and after LOS 2013 Trip 3 I will likely have to start working again if I'm to afford going to LOS in 2014 and beyond.
Dextro Sol: Thanks for the endorsement.
Luvpuss, Daddy07, NB, Phord, Bionic, Dextro and All the cool BMs: Should we ever be in Paradise (for me Paradise = Patts) at the same time, let's meet for a drink / something if you're free. I'm planning on doing Trip 3 approx 28 Aug to 26 Sep or 23 Oct to 21 Nov, depending on my money situation. I would prefer Aug to Sep as it's low season so the ladies find me more handsome and some of the better looking girls are willing to be flexible on their pricing to sleep with ugly, old me. When I have my tix booked, I'll post exact dates on ISG. Bye everyone and happy mongering.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1417958]He needs to do a report on each girl. One post for each girl. Giving all the details- price etc, activities, is the girl anally inclined.[/QUOTE]Did you look at what he posted here?
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Searched for answers to this, but didn't see any.
I am arriving BKK about 830pm next Tuesday and hope to catch a bus to Pattaya.
The airportpattayabus. Com website shows a 10pm bus departure that goes to Pattaya Bus Terminal on North Pattaya Road.
Have any of you taken this bus service?
Should the Pattaya bus station be safe at midnight?
Taxis or tuk-tuks available there for ride to entrance of Walking St?
I have always taken the Bell Travel bus on previous trips but they don't have a late one.
I have taken other buses around Thailand and service was fine, just wondering about this one.
Thanks in advance. Sure will be good to be back in Pattaya.
Luvpuss, Daddy07, NB, Phord, Bionic, Dextro and All the cool BMs: Should we ever be in Paradise (for me Paradise = Patts) at the same time, let's meet for a drink / something if you're free. I'm planning on doing Trip 3 approx 28 Aug to 26 Sep or 23 Oct to 21 Nov, depending on my money situation. I would prefer Aug to Sep as it's low season so the ladies find me more handsome and some of the better looking girls are willing to be flexible on their pricing to sleep with ugly, old me. When I have my tix booked, I'll post exact dates on ISG. Bye everyone and happy mongering.[/QUOTE]Bro, At least you showed here that one doesn't have to look like a Brad Pitt or similar in order to be able to get all these lovelies! Isaan girls are sure lovely no whether where they are working.
[QUOTE=IamJohnGalt; 1418169]Searched for answers to this, but didn't see any.
I am arriving BKK about 830pm next Tuesday and hope to catch a bus to Pattaya.
The airportpattayabus. Com website shows a 10pm bus departure that goes to Pattaya Bus Terminal on North Pattaya Road.
Have any of you taken this bus service?
Should the Pattaya bus station be safe at midnight?
Taxis or tuk-tuks available there for ride to entrance of Walking St?
I have always taken the Bell Travel bus on previous trips but they don't have a late one.
I have taken other buses around Thailand and service was fine, just wondering about this one.
Thanks in advance. Sure will be good to be back in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]You'll be fine. The bus drops you just outside Jomtian and its on the baht bus route to Walking Street. There will be a number tuk tuks waiting for hotel drop-off and security isn't really an issue. I wouldn't necessarily plan on the bus turning up as TIT but all this means is that you'll be spending a night of hardship night in BKK.
[QUOTE=Amex Spg;1418091]Luvpuss, Daddy07, NB, Phord, Bionic, Dextro and All the cool BMs: Should we ever be in Paradise (for me Paradise = Patts) at the same time, let's meet for a drink / something if you're free. I'm planning on doing Trip 3 approx 28 Aug to 26 Sep or 23 Oct to 21 Nov, depending on my money situation. I would prefer Aug to Sep as it's low season so the ladies find me more handsome and some of the better looking girls are willing to be flexible on their pricing to sleep with ugly, old me. When I have my tix booked, I'll post exact dates on ISG. Bye everyone and happy mongering.[/QUOTE]That would be really great! I am planning to go over Christmas, but if I get good money this coming summer its very possible I can go a couple of weeks in September. We should keep in touch!
Well, it looks as though Amex let the cat out of the bag. Thanks to Amex TR and photos, I'm convinced that Pattaya has plenty of nice girls to be shagged for good value. All those photos posted of butt ugly girls in Pattaya must be guys trying to prevent an excess amount of sausage there LOL.
I'll be making the trip ASAP!
Need a little advice from the experts here. I will be coming to Pattaya but will be spending a couple of days in Bangkok first. I don't remember seeing too many money changers in Pattaya however they are everywhere in Bangkok. I am bring US$ and is just wondering if it would be better for me to change the money in Bangkok and bring it with me to Pattaya? Are the exchange rate the same in Bangkok and Pattaya? Thanks
[QUOTE=Csun213;1419052]Need a little advice from the experts here. I will be coming to Pattaya but will be spending a couple of days in Bangkok first. I don't remember seeing too many money changers in Pattaya however they are everywhere in Bangkok. I am bring US$ and is just wondering if it would be better for me to change the money in Bangkok and bring it with me to Pattaya? Are the exchange rate the same in Bangkok and Pattaya? Thanks[/QUOTE]Dude. You keep worrying too much. There are 10 money changers on every corner in all the major touristic cities of Thailand and the rate is generally the same. There is no need to worry about the minuscule difference in rate between each place unless you are changing thousands of dollars at one time.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1419060]Dude. You keep worrying too much. There are 10 money changers on every corner in all the major touristic cities of Thailand and the rate is generally the same. There is no need to worry about the minuscule difference in rate between each place unless you are changing thousands of dollars at one time.[/QUOTE]Thanks, it is just that I am traveling with a couple of friends who have not been to Thailand before and since I was in Thailand a few years ago, they are depending on me for all these information. This is why I keep asking questions here so that I will not have any problems when we arrive.
Not sure if it makes any difference but we plan on changing $US 2000 each when we arrive and will probably do it all at once, hopefully it will last us for the 9 days were are there.
[QUOTE=Csun213; 1419116]Thanks, it is just that I am traveling with a couple of friends who have not been to Thailand before and since I was in Thailand a few years ago, they are depending on me for all these information. This is why I keep asking questions here so that I will not have any problems when we arrive.
Not sure if it makes any difference but we plan on changing $US 2000 each when we arrive and will probably do it all at once, hopefully it will last us for the 9 days were are there.[/QUOTE]Csun.
Like other posters say, the exchange rates are not too varied once you are in town. But I do suggest to change only $100-300 at the airport if you are not carrying any baht from a previous trip, as the airport rates are lower than elsewhere.
Got in from Jakarta, landed at 4:20pm. Went straight to the bus counter on the 1st floor. I caught the 5pm bus to Pattaya for 134 baht. Arrived at the bus station (a strip mall parking lot) at 7pm. Took taxi / baht bus to my hotel. 50 baht. Check in, clean up, run some errands and it's of to the beach. Met a 29 year old, tall, wide hips. She asked for 800 baht. We settled at 700 baht. In the room, shoot the photos, clean up, good service, she warmed up even more in the sack. Gave her 20 baht for baht bus and off she went. I did notice that the beach strip had new light poles put up and that some of the palm trees were removed. It is much brighter then my last visit five weeks ago. Looks like the city is trying to clean up that area. I fear the new developments might drive away some of the freelance girls. I also noticed that a lot of freelancers were starting off at 700 baht and not the usual 500 baht. I even ran across two girls that wanted 1000 baht. All price quoted were for short time. I usually get them down to 500. I know, my first girl, I did not. Oh yeah, while I was in Jakarta, Indonesia, I couldn't get onto the ISG website. A "this site is Broken" page would come up. I had internet access. And the very first time I logged onto ISG in Pattaya. No problem. What should I expect from a Muslim country.
[QUOTE=Csun213; 1419116]Thanks, it is just that I am traveling with a couple of friends who have not been to Thailand before and since I was in Thailand a few years ago, they are depending on me for all these information. This is why I keep asking questions here so that I will not have any problems when we arrive.
Not sure if it makes any difference but we plan on changing $US 2000 each when we arrive and will probably do it all at once, hopefully it will last us for the 9 days were are there.[/QUOTE]As MTG said, don't exchange much at the airport. The rate is 2. 3 baht lower. That adds up when changing large amounts.
I would reconsider changing all of it at once. USD2, 000 is about 60, 000 baht. That is quite a large pile of cash. You'll find that $100 bills are much more portable.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1419170]As MTG said, don't exchange much at the airport. The rate is 2. 3 baht lower. That adds up when changing large amounts.
I would reconsider changing all of it at once. USD2, 000 is about 60, 000 baht. That is quite a large pile of cash. You'll find that $100 bills are much more portable.[/QUOTE]How late are currency exchange stores open near Walkig Street? (I am arriving Pattaya about midnight tomorrow after flight into BKK.)
Thanks.
[QUOTE=IamJohnGalt; 1419192]How late are currency exchange stores open near Walkig Street? (I am arriving Pattaya about midnight tomorrow after flight into BKK.)
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Off Walking Street they stay open until 10 maybe 11. There are a couple on Walking Street that stay open until about 2am. One is a travel agency on the right past the entrance of Walking Street.
[QUOTE=IamJohnGalt; 1419192]How late are currency exchange stores open near Walkig Street? (I am arriving Pattaya about midnight tomorrow after flight into BKK.)
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I see lots of talk about exchange places and wonder am I the only one that uses an ATM?
I bring cash and travelers checks, but those are backups in case I lose my ATM cards.
Cruised the beach at 2:30pm. Yes, still a very hot part of the day. Managed to find a thick legged woman. 30, all smiles, friendly. 500 baht and a good time plus a few photos. It's all good! Pick up laundry (4 days of laundry for 120 baht) , eat, rest till about 10:30pm and walked the beach again. First girl was young, thick, maybe a little too much make up. She wanted 700 baht short time. I said: I can not. 500 baht, yes. She said 700, so I walked. Met another woman with a big butt and a big smile to match it. She wanted 700 baht too. I said 500 baht short time and she jumped all over it. Off we go. Stopped for some water, tea and juice, got on a baht bus and there we are at the hotel. Photos, shower, fool around, laughing, smiling. GFE! Paid her 500 plus 100 baht tip and off she goes. Another day in Pattaya!
[QUOTE=RBDave;1419343]I see lots of talk about exchange places and wonder am I the only one that uses an ATM? I bring cash and travelers checks, but those are backups in case I lose my ATM cards.[/QUOTE]Because Thai ATMs charge $5 in addition to what your home bank will charge you for using a machine that is not theirs as well as for currency exchange. So it is possible that you could be paying upwards of $8 per transaction to use an ATM.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1419375]Because Thai ATMs charge $5 in addition to what your home bank will charge you for using a machine that is not theirs as well as for currency exchange.[/QUOTE]You can avoid the Thai ATM fee if you withdraw from [url=http://www.aeon.co.th/en/customerservices_servicelocation_atm_depositor.php][color=purple]Aeon ATMs[/url][/color]. You can find them in the Big C and Tesco Lotus.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1419375]Because Thai ATMs charge $5 in addition to what your home bank will charge you for using a machine that is not theirs as well as for currency exchange. So it is possible that you could be paying upwards of $8 per transaction to use an ATM.[/QUOTE]Yes, I'm aware of the fees. I use the ATM about four times per trip, that amounts to 600 baht which is about $20. Yes, it sucks to have to pay such a fee (my bank doesn't charge, thankfully). However, in the grand scheme of things, I just add it to the cost of going to Thailand.
So for a two week holiday, let's assume a shrewd person can get a plane ticket for $1100 (from the US). Pays 1000 + 300 barfine for 14 nights = 18200 $610. 14 nights * $50 for hotel = $700, $10 per day for food ($140) , $10 for drinks ($140) , and $5 for getting around ($70). That's a total of $2760. That's about 0. 724.
I've been fairly conservative compared to what I actually spend. If I'm going to ATM 4 times, I'm getting about $2000. I pay for hotels and plane by credit card. And I usually spend $1800 for my plane ticket. I eat and drink more and pay more for ladies. So for me, it's well below a 1/2 percent of my total trip cost.
For that amount, I consider my convenience more than the amount of money saved.
I also consider security. Going to an exchange with a wad of cash makes you a target. Leaving an ATM with a wad of cash also makes you a target. But as I mentioned, if I get mugged and my card is taken from me, I have cash and travelers checks backups. But if you are bringing $2000 at once to exchange and get it all taken, you're not going to have a good time.
[QUOTE=RBDave; 1419384]Yes, I'm aware of the fees. I use the ATM about four times per trip, that amounts to 600 baht which is about $20. Yes, it sucks to have to pay such a fee (my bank doesn't charge, thankfully). However, in the grand scheme of things, I just add it to the cost of going to Thailand.
I also consider security. Going to an exchange with a wad of cash makes you a target. Leaving an ATM with a wad of cash also makes you a target. But as I mentioned, if I get mugged and my card is taken from me, I have cash and travelers checks backups. But if you are bringing $2000 at once to exchange and get it all taken, you're not going to have a good time.[/QUOTE]Everyone has their nuances. Some people refuse to be ripped off by paying bar fines and go with freelance. Others refuse to be ripped off by paying exorbitant ATM fees and instead prefer to exchange money. Others don't want to be ripped off by motorbike taxis so they rent motorbikes. Others don't want to be ripped off by whatever they feel is a rip off and instead choose an alternative.
It is not really a security issue from my standpoint. In over 100 countries and in some of the shadiest places in the world I have never been mugged. But the primary reason that I would never exchange all of my money at one time is because I may not need it all. You can exchange USD and euro in any market in the world. But if you go trying to exchange Malaysian ringgit for Thai baht then you are going to get f'ed in the a. So it is always smart to keep the dollars and euro on hand.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1419389]Everyone has their nuances. Some people refuse to be ripped off by paying bar fines and go with freelance. Others refuse to be ripped off by paying exorbitant ATM fees and instead prefer to exchange money. Others don't want to be ripped off by motorbike taxis so they rent motorbikes. Others don't want to be ripped off by whatever they feel is a rip off and instead choose an alternative.[/QUOTE]You are right about that. I have my idiosyncrasies as well. I can't think of any examples right now, but I don't like to be "taken advantage of" even if it's only a small amount of money! But somehow I'm come to accept those bastard ATM charges.
Aeon ATMs don't charge the fee, but how is their exchange rate?
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1419170]As MTG said, don't exchange much at the airport. The rate is 2. 3 baht lower. That adds up when changing large amounts.
I would reconsider changing all of it at once. USD2, 000 is about 60, 000 baht. That is quite a large pile of cash. You'll find that $100 bills are much more portable.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys for all the reply. The reason why we were going to change US$2000 in Bangkok was because the last time I was in Pattaya a few years ago, I didn't remember seeing too many money changers therefore I didn't want to run into the problem of not being able to change money when we run low. However from the reply here, it seems that there is no problem finding money changer in Pattaya. Thanks guys for all the response and help. Really looking forward to this trip even though I will have a couple of newbies with me.
I exchanged more than $1000 US at one of the popular good rate places in BKK once. From there I went to Big C to look for some clothes. There was a man who apparently was keeping close tabs on me. I assumed he was plain clothes store security. I left not because of him but because I did not find what I wanted. Down a level and far away from Big C I was in small clothing shop setup in an open space with no walls. I turned around and the same guy was within 5 feet of me. I believe that he was a pickpocket who had followed me from the exchange place. Stay sharp.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1419476]I exchanged more than $1000 US at one of the popular good rate places in BKK once. From there I went to Big C to look for some clothes. There was a man who apparently was keeping close tabs on me. I assumed he was plain clothes store security. I left not because of him but because I did not find what I wanted. Down a level and far away from Big C I was in small clothing shop setup in an open space with no walls. I turned around and the same guy was within 5 feet of me. I believe that he was a pickpocket who had followed me from the exchange place. Stay sharp.[/QUOTE]I think it happens a lot more often than people realize, but as you elude to, it happens to people not aware of their surroundings.
My MO for money handling is to go to the ATM in the day. Pick an ATM at a bank, not some crummy no name outside 7-11. When I find a good ATM, I check around for any people just sitting or standing around. Last year in Pattaya, I found a guy who was first sitting on the street, then when I looked over my shoulder before using the ATM, I saw he gotten closer to me and was watching. This spooked me, so I didn't take any money.
Before inserting my card, I give the read a good tug to make sure it is not a skimmer. And of course, I make sure no one can see my type in my PIN with my chest / stomach and hand hiding the numbers I punch. I can easily type in my PIN with just one hand without looking at the numbers.
Immediately after getting the money, I head to the hotel to put excess cash and the ATM card in the safe. I never carry more than I will need for the night, food, drinks, and ladies.
I also make sure my room is secure. If I bring a lady back, I don't want to have anything out that could be picked up easily. Also, as mentioned, I have enough so I don't have to open the safe. When taking a shower, I take my pants with money in the bathroom with me, then out again when I'm done showering.
[QUOTE=RBDave; 1419482]I think it happens a lot more often than people realize, but as you elude to, it happens to people not aware of their surroundings.
My MO for money handling is to go to the ATM in the day. Pick an ATM at a bank, not some crummy no name outside 7-11. When I find a good ATM, I check around for any people just sitting or standing around. Last year in Pattaya, I found a guy who was first sitting on the street, then when I looked over my shoulder before using the ATM, I saw he gotten closer to me and was watching. This spooked me, so I didn't take any money.
Before inserting my card, I give the read a good tug to make sure it is not a skimmer. And of course, I make sure no one can see my type in my PIN with my chest / stomach and hand hiding the numbers I punch. I can easily type in my PIN with just one hand without looking at the numbers.
Immediately after getting the money, I head to the hotel to put excess cash and the ATM card in the safe. I never carry more than I will need for the night, food, drinks, and ladies.
I also make sure my room is secure. If I bring a lady back, I don't want to have anything out that could be picked up easily. Also, as mentioned, I have enough so I don't have to open the safe. When taking a shower, I take my pants with money in the bathroom with me, then out again when I'm done showering.[/QUOTE]I recently heard of this ATM scam on the radio. On newer ATMs, cards will automatically eject. On older ATMs, you have to press an eject button to get your card back. On these older ATMs, scammers are tampering with the eject button with some kind of glue to disable it. When the frustrated customer leaves without his card, the scammers are somehow able to dissolve or bypass the glue and eject the card out. If the customer lingers too long, the ATM will automatically keep the card so the scammers will sometimes try to get the customer to leave. Most of the older ATMs are at non-bank locations like 7-11 stores.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1419476]I believe that he was a pickpocket who had followed me from the exchange place. Stay sharp.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=RBDave; 1419482]I think it happens a lot more often than people realize, but as you elude to, it happens to people not aware of their surroundings.
Immediately after getting the money, I head to the hotel to put excess cash and the ATM card in the safe. I never carry more than I will need for the night, food, drinks, and ladies.
I also make sure my room is secure. If I bring a lady back, I don't want to have anything out that could be picked up easily. Also, as mentioned, I have enough so I don't have to open the safe. When taking a shower, I take my pants with money in the bathroom with me, then out again when I'm done showering.[/QUOTE]It is most likely Crazy4Thai was being stalked by a pickpocket. They are not uncommon and are always looking for prey. If someone is taking to much interest in what I'm doing at an ATM I will give the suspect a quick and serious stare to let him know I'm wise to him. I only use ATMs inside banks such as the AEON in the lower level of Terminal 21 or the Citibank across Asok; and then I go straight to my hotel room. I make the fewest number of maximum withdrawal to minimize the fees. I always lock everything of value in my room safe. All my valuables are in the safe before I go out and when I get back anything of value on me goes into the safe. I'm not bashful about doing this while the lady is in the room. Of course I'm careful that she not see me entering the combination. I've never been picked and nothing has ever been taken from my room.
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1419373]Cruised the beach at 2:30pm. Yes, still a very hot part of the day. Managed to find a thick legged woman. 30, all smiles, friendly. 500 baht and a good time plus a few photos. It's all good! Pick up laundry (4 days of laundry for 120 baht) , eat, rest till about 10:30pm and walked the beach again. First girl was young, thick, maybe a little too much make up. She wanted 700 baht short time. I said: I can not. 500 baht, yes. She said 700, so I walked. Met another woman with a big butt and a big smile to match it. She wanted 700 baht too. I said 500 baht short time and she jumped all over it. Off we go. Stopped for some water, tea and juice, got on a baht bus and there we are at the hotel. Photos, shower, fool around, laughing, smiling. GFE! Paid her 500 plus 100 baht tip and off she goes. Another day in Pattaya![/QUOTE]Sounds nice!
Now we all waiting for your pics.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Yujin;1419510]I recently heard of this ATM scam on the radio. On newer ATMs, cards will automatically eject. On older ATMs, you have to press an eject button to get your card back. On these older ATMs, scammers are tampering with the eject button with some kind of glue to disable it. When the frustrated customer leaves without his card, the scammers are somehow able to dissolve or bypass the glue and eject the card out. If the customer lingers too long, the ATM will automatically keep the card so the scammers will sometimes try to get the customer to leave. Most of the older ATMs are at non-bank locations like 7-11 stores.[/QUOTE]In Bangkok can't dispute but in Pattaya I have never had a problem with using any ATM outside a 7/11,
Except one! All the ATM in Pattaya 7/11 are machines owned and operated by major Banks like Siam, or.
Bangkok Bank. Many of the 7/11 have camera's outside their stores and whenever using them I look up to see if there is a camera behind me and I always ask anyone including Thai can you step back a little so I
Do my transaction.
Beginning of this year I was on Soi Buakhao using a ATM outside of a 7/11, did my usually checking out my surroundings. Place my card inside placed my pin then I noticed and felt as my money was being.
Dispensed a guy Mid-Eastern standing close to my right, too closed, I look over and he had a Visa card
And ask me a question about whether he could use in but I never turn fully and then I felt a guy on my
Left, if I had not turn in time he would have grabbed the dispense money and took off but I placed my
Left hand over the dispenser the guy backed off quickly and when I turn to my right the guy had taken
Off? I quickly walked away put my stuff away and got on my motorbike and follow him from behind then I pull in front of him and got off my bike and told him nice try MF, I don't forget a face so you better
Remember to always look over your shoulder because the next time I see you I'll either put a bullet in
Head or completely cut it off for a Soi dog to lick! Lots of B. S. Going on here in Pattaya enjoy but never
Let your guard down?
LBM
[QUOTE=Csun213; 1419116]Thanks, it is just that I am traveling with a couple of friends who have not been to Thailand before and since I was in Thailand a few years ago, they are depending on me for all these information. This is why I keep asking questions here so that I will not have any problems when we arrive.
Not sure if it makes any difference but we plan on changing $US 2000 each when we arrive and will probably do it all at once, hopefully it will last us for the 9 days were are there.[/QUOTE]Csun 213,
Thailand is the fastest place in the world to change USD most money Charger are own by major bank and they are all over Pattaya, just at Beach road there must be over 30 money charger and rate change every day sometime 2-3 time a day, I never change more than I need 1-200 USD at a time and Mr enternational is right you worry too damn much you should worry about finding girl not the little thing like a little old lady.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1419476]I exchanged more than $1000 US at one of the popular good rate places in BKK once. From there I went to Big C to look for some clothes. There was a man who apparently was keeping close tabs on me. I assumed he was plain clothes store security. I left not because of him but because I did not find what I wanted. Down a level and far away from Big C I was in small clothing shop setup in an open space with no walls. I turned around and the same guy was within 5 feet of me. I believe that he was a pickpocket who had followed me from the exchange place. Stay sharp.[/QUOTE]Crazy4Thai,
I think that is Everrich money charger near big C in Bangkok they do offer very good rate for larger amount of USD, yes that is another reason I only change small amount at a time rate change it is not save to carry alot of money around just change as you need.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1419735]Crazy4Thai,
I think that is Everrich money charger near big C in Bangkok they do offer very good rate for larger amount of USD, yes that is another reason I only change small amount at a time rate change it is not save to carry alot of money around just change as you need.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Wear cargo shorts with zippered pockets or button down flaps, or even velcro pocket flaps do the trick. Makes it harder for them to get their hands in your pockets. I divide my money up; small bills in one area, baht together in another, big bills may even go inside my sock. The bigger bill you exchange, the better rate you get. In the long run, the girls are going to get the money anyway.
Hi guys, I want to join the money discussion since I am going to Pattaya soon for the first time, so apparently most of you prefer to keep the money in the hotel safe, of course I always do that in Europe but there are 2 things :
1- in Europe I don't bring the ladies to the hotel, while in Pattaya I will be seen from the hotel staff taking a lady to my room everyday.
2- in Europe the hotel staff get paid well so its not worth it to risk loosing their jobs for a few thousands dollars, while in Pattaya comparing to the hotel staff salaries a few thousands dollars mean something.
I am not saying that taking the money in your pocket will be a smart thing, but its more like I am taking your opinion if leaving a few thousands dollars in a hotel room in Pattaya while the hotel staff knows that you are here to monger is the safest way to survive in Pattaya?
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1419819]Wear cargo shorts with zippered pockets or button down flaps, or even velcro pocket flaps do the trick. Makes it harder for them to get their hands in your pockets. I divide my money up; small bills in one area, baht together in another, big bills may even go inside my sock. The bigger bill you exchange, the better rate you get. In the long run, the girls are going to get the money anyway.[/QUOTE]I swear by cargo trousers. I'm currently looking for one with pockets large enough to contain an ipad. No luck yet.
[QUOTE=Turgid;1419833]I swear by cargo trousers. I'm currently looking for one with pockets large enough to contain an ipad. No luck yet.[/QUOTE]Have some made when you get there. It will be cheaper than off the rack anyway.
[quote=nixonbd;1419819]wear cargo shorts with zippered pockets or button down flaps, or even velcro pocket flaps do the trick. makes it harder for them to get their hands in your pockets.[/quote]in thailand, the only time i got pickpocket was when i wore cargo pants. the thigh pockets had velcro and buttons, but that didn't stop the pickpocket. it happened in a crowded club which was wall-to-wall people so i was constantly being bumped into so i didn't feel anything unusual. since i wasn't moving around much, i was an easy target since cargo pants are baggy and the thigh pockets are also baggy so it was fairly easy for a nimble finger pickpocket to bypass the velcro, unbutton the pocket flap, and lift my wallet.
several years ago, i was in quito, ecuador sitting outside of a club when i saw a guy wearing cargo pants get surrounded by kids selling candy. two kids shoved bags of candy in his stomach to block his view while another kid went for his cargo thigh pocket. in less than 10 seconds, the kids rep001tered with whatever the guy had in his pocket (i think they got his camera and cell phone).
unless your cargo pants has a hidden inside zipper pocket, i wouldn't put anything of value in the pockets. whenever i wear cargo pants, i only use the thigh pocket to carry a bottle of water. for anything of value, i use an eagle creek hidden pocket:
[url]http://www.amazon.com/eagle-creek-travel-undercover-hidden/dp/b0054ih9uc/ref=sr_1_1?s=apparel&ie=utf8&qid=1367986498&sr=1-1&keywords=eagle[/url]
+creek+hidden+pocket
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1419885]Have some made when you get there. It will be cheaper than off the rack anyway.[/QUOTE]Any suggestions where they can make these pants?
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1419902]Any suggestions where they can make these pants?[/QUOTE]Any tailor could do that. There are 12 on every corner. Design it yourself or have them design it for you. You might look like a ******* with a 12 inch pocket on your shorts, but it can be done.
[QUOTE=GoldenTiger; 1419827]Hi guys, I want to join the money discussion since I am going to Pattaya soon for the first time, so apparently most of you prefer to keep the money in the hotel safe, of course I always do that in Europe but there are 2 things :
1- in Europe I don't bring the ladies to the hotel, while in Pattaya I will be seen from the hotel staff taking a lady to my room everyday.
2- in Europe the hotel staff get paid well so its not worth it to risk loosing their jobs for a few thousands dollars, while in Pattaya comparing to the hotel staff salaries a few thousands dollars mean something.
I am not saying that taking the money in your pocket will be a smart thing, but its more like I am taking your opinion if leaving a few thousands dollars in a hotel room in Pattaya while the hotel staff knows that you are here to monger is the safest way to survive in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]I have been to Pattaya and number of times and always keep the valuables I. E. Cash, cards etc in the hotel safe. It has never ever been touched. I feel the hotel management is particular in that sense because it is a matter of reputation but guess it also depends on the type of hotel you are staying. If somebody is putting up in a 300 THB per day room then definately it will be risky.
[QUOTE=Yujin;1419901]In Thailand, the only time I got pickpocket was when I wore cargo pants. The thigh pockets had Velcro and buttons, but that didn't stop the pickpocket.[/QUOTE]I second that. Mine had just a button and it happened on a Pattaya Baht bus. She got my passport and $300 US. I had just arrived from BKK and had a carryon bag between my knees. I cannot tell you the hassle it was to lose my passport and it was expensive to get a new one. My current form of security is a zippered pouch on a nylon strap around my neck inside my shirt. When I'm on my way to the hotel safe. I caught a guy in the act once while standing room only on a crowded bus in Mazatlan. I was wearing tight jeans and he had his hand all the way inside my right front pocket where I had my money in a money clip. I did not feel a thing until I turned 180 degrees to tell my GF that our stop was coming up. He removed his hand and pretended like he wasn't there. I did not confront him as I did not feel safe there anyway.
[QUOTE=GoldenTiger; 1419827]Hi guys, I want to join the money discussion since I am going to Pattaya soon for the first time, so apparently most of you prefer to keep the money in the hotel safe, of course I always do that in Europe but there are 2 things :
1- in Europe I don't bring the ladies to the hotel, while in Pattaya I will be seen from the hotel staff taking a lady to my room everyday.
2- in Europe the hotel staff get paid well so its not worth it to risk loosing their jobs for a few thousands dollars, while in Pattaya comparing to the hotel staff salaries a few thousands dollars mean something.
I am not saying that taking the money in your pocket will be a smart thing, but its more like I am taking your opinion if leaving a few thousands dollars in a hotel room in Pattaya while the hotel staff knows that you are here to monger is the safest way to survive in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Your money will be safe at the hotel as long as you use the safe!
Change few hundred at a time.
Pick pockets are in most tourist destinations as long as you are careful you should be ok.
I am planning a trip to the land of smiles in June will be taking cash, a friend of mine travels to Pattaya every 3 months and has never had a problem.
Waited till later to walk the beach today. About 8pm. The first girl I talked to was new in Pattaya and didn't speak much English. She had a friend with her that stunk. After a few minutes I left. The next girl I spoke with wanted 800 baht. I got her down to 600. She agreed. So I put my arm around her and noticed she had more mid section than I care for. So I said thank you. Maybe later and walked. The next girl three girls wanted 700 baht. I got two of them down to 500 and the third down to 600. I was here five weeks ago and a lot fewer girls started off at 700. I found a younger one with a big round butt. She wanted 800 and I got her down to 600. Once in the room I pulled out my camera and she freaked out. She didn't want her pictures taken. Not even with clothes on and not even with assurance I wouldn't post them on the internet. Nope, she wasn't having it. I let her out and off she went.
Tinkered around for about an hour and headed out again. The first woman I talked to wanted 800 baht. I liked the way she looked and responded to me. So we agree at 700. But I told her for 700 baht, I want photos. She said ok. Once in the room I pulled out the camera and she turns into a model. Big smiles, lots of poses. Then we clean up and get to business. Lots of enthusiasm, lots of skills, lots of smiles. An all around great time. After, I gave her the 700, she gave me a hug, a kiss and a smile and off she went.
About 1am I met up with some friends of mine and we headed to walking street. They wanted to go bar hopping and I went to Insomnia. It was packed. I did a walk thru and I left. Too crowded. Went to the Hot Tuna, not too good tonight. So I went to the Marine Disco and sat at a table. It was about 2am when all the girls started showing up. Minutes later somebody is dancing up on my leg. I look and it was an older, ugly woman. I just ignored her and she got the message and left. Then one of my buddies shows up. About an hour later he finds a girl. About an hour after that I find a girl. I asked my girl how much. She said 1000 baht. I am used to paying 500 baht on the beach and getting pretty good results. It's about 5am and she is built like I like them. So, ok. 1000. Lets go. Lets just say. Spending more, does not mean you get more. Her oral skills were weak. She couldn't take the pounding either. All in all. One of the weaker performers I've had on this trip. She was my 58th girl on this vacation, so what the heck do I know? She did give me some nice photos.
Yes, I get photos of all my girls. So if anybody is asking to see them I say. Sure! Next time you are in the LA area of Southern California, hit me up. I would love to show you my photo albums. All 15 of them. Have fun, play safe and good luck!
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1419819]Wear cargo shorts with zippered pockets or button down flaps, or even velcro pocket flaps do the trick. Makes it harder for them to get their hands in your pockets. I divide my money up; small bills in one area, baht together in another, big bills may even go inside my sock. The bigger bill you exchange, the better rate you get. In the long run, the girls are going to get the money anyway.[/QUOTE]Nixonbd,
I also put my 100 USD inside my shoes and my wallet in my front jean pokcet, its better to give your money to the girl than the thief.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Xplorer007;1419962]Your money will be safe at the hotel as long as you use the safe![/QUOTE]An in-room safe is not 100% secure. The hotel can open an in-room safe. They need to be able to do this in case a hotel guest forgets the combination or checks out without leaving the safe open.
If the hotel has a crooked employee, there's always the possibility that the contents in an in-room safe are at risk. On my last trip to Angeles City, someone that I met claimed that someone got into his in-room safe and stole his money. Only a few bills at a time would be taken so as not to raise alarm. He got suspicious so he made sure to count how much money he put in the safe. Sure enough, after one night, a $100 bill was missing. Before he caught on, $400 (4 x $100 bill) was stolen.
An in-room safe is probably safer than hiding your money under the bed, but just realize that it's not 100% secure.
Had a late lunch at Central Festival Mall. About 3pm. After, I went to the beach. Seconds later I met a 21 year old. She looked like she could have been 18. And with the short hair. I had to ask for her I'd. I asked how much and she said 500 baht. Off we go. I was not expecting such great oral skills from a 21 year old. Well, maybe from girls at blow job alley bars in Angele City, Philippines. But not here. The very shy part, I was expecting. It's nice to be with a girl every once in a while that is not some what mechanical or in a hurry. Although, I have had lots of luck on this vacation. Good change of pace. And at 500 baht. Worth it. Did the usual stuff to fill my time. Went out at 10:30pm to meet up with friends. Went to Walking Street Disco. Too early. Went to Angel Witch. So so tonight. Went to a go-go bar so one of my buddies could try to find a girl he saw the night before. She wasn't there. Went to Blue Sky / Sky Blue for a couple of more beers. Kind of pricey there at 120 baht for a Tiger beer. Then again, they have a live band. Ended up at Marine Disco at 2:30am. The place was just getting started. Met an older woman at 34. She was in great shape. Dark tan, big smile and full of energy. When I asked how much, she said 1000 baht short time. Ok, let's give it a shot. Photos, clean up, hit the sack. She was a wild cat. She about wore me out. Fell asleep about 5am or so. Haha, woke up at 1:30pm the next day. She jumps out of bed, cleans up, I gave her the 1000 and off she goes. When I get home. I am going to need a vacation to recover from my trip here. So if I am going to sleep at sunrise and getting up late afternoon. Does that make me nocturnal?
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1420198]Nixonbd,
I also put my 100 USD inside my shoes and my wallet in my front jean pokcet, its better to give your money to the girl than the thief.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Hello on the first trip to LOS I usually would carry just a few hundred baht in my pockets and a few thousand in a 7/11 plastic bag in one of my socks. Usually I could take it from there without anybody seeing it but explaing why you keep the king of Thailand so close to your feet and step on him every second was rather difficult to an isan streetwalker. If it would have been stolen I wouldn't have had the possibilty to invite her anyway but try to explain that to her. I couldn't do it. Kind greetings Frits
Late, late, late start today. Up at 1:30pm. 3:30pm I walked the beach. Today seems quieter than usual. I don't know. Mid week. About soi 11 and the beach I met a 33 year old from Loas. I said 500 short time and she didn't hesitate. Good BBBJ, photos, hit it kind of hard for a while there. After I gave her the 500 and she said thank you and off she went. So worth 500 baht. Rested up and headed out to eat at the Bay Watch restaurant and ran into a 30 year old. 42 kilos, not my MO. But she had a big smile and there was a spark between us. I said 500 baht short time and her face lit up again. Off we go! Same same. Photos, BBBJ, laughing caring on, having a good time. 500 baht and she thanks me. Off she goes. Ok, now I'm hungry. The Bay Watch restaurant does not have A / C, but I put up with it because they have good meals at a decent price. And being it was almost 10pm. It wasn't so hot. After dinner, I met some friends at Angel Witch. It was ok. They brought back the "womanizer" routine. It's a good one. Had a few beers and left. Oh, they shorted my buddy 100 baht when he cashed out. They went around and around for a couple of minutes. Then they gave him the 100 baht they owed him. My friends and I split up. I was going to meet them at I bar. Later, I did a walk thru and didn't see them. Went upstairs to Insomnia and didn't see them there either. Both levels were about 75 percent capacity. Went to Marine disco, but at 1am. Too early. It was dead. I did run into a couple of girls that I took from the beach, but this time they were in a club or on Walking Street. Funny, I paid them 500 baht short time and now they are quoting 1000 baht short time. Just because they went up the street. I talked to a girl on Walking Street and asked how much. Of course she said 1000. I countered with 700. She hesitated and said ok. Ooops! I wasn't expecting that one. I told her ok, but later. I was looking for something it the 60 kilo range. Went into lucifers and had a beer. Met a 21 year old with a thick a*. I said hi and she lit up. I asked how much and she asked: short time? I said yes. And she said: 1000 baht. Ok, lets have a go! On the way to my hotel I noticed she was a little tipsy. She was all over the place. Laughing and stumbling about. I though. Oh no, sloppy drunk girl. Not going to be good. I'm glad a waited to see the out come. She was a lot of fun in the sack. After, she gave me a kiss on the cheek and said thank you and off she went. It was 3am. I had a late start today. But it looks like I made up for it and then some. Trifecta, Booyah!
Sixty Two Echo,
Appreciations for taking the time to post daily, no doubt you are enjoying yourself, enjoy reading your sexploits. Question. What is the current turnout of ladies on the Beach Road of late? Been some time since I was last in Pattaya, Oct 12, the numbers appeared thin on the ground at the time.
No that mean you are having fun.
Keep it up.
On my way to Pattaya from bankok.
PM me if you want to get together for a beer.
Tellall
Just made it back to Pattaya and was walking to one of my favorites spot just to find out it is gone. Do anyone no if all of the small bars on sio 8 between the walking path to the rest room and Baron Beach culb and the expandtion of the Sunrise hotel went. There was one bar next to the wall I think the name was the Star bar with and nice thia lady married to an american who own it but the grand mother and other family ran the place. I would like to know if anyone can tell me if has moved. There was some great girl in there and it would be nice to have another go round with them. If anyone knows what happen to the place and the girl I would appreciate it. Please pm me or post what ever you know. Thanks to all.
Hello there Noddy! I have seen girls out as early as 7am. And as late as 3am. I have noticed that there is a large showing of girls just after sun down. So about 7pm to 8pm, they really start showing up. And the weekends are even better. They have recently pulled up a lot of palm trees on the beach front and have added a lot of very tall and very bright light polls. So it will look a little different on your next visit.
Had a one hour oil massage today. 250 baht with 50 baht tip. It knocked me down for a couple of hours. Walked the beach about 3:30pm. Not a lot going on here today at this time. Headed back to hotel to rest up. 7pm hit the beach again. That's more like it. Got a couple of 700 baht quotes. I just said no thanks and passed. Met a 30 year old with a bubble butt. I threw out a couple of Thai phrases that I know. She lit up. Told her 500 baht for short time and she said: lets go! Off we went. Photos, clean up, BBBJ (so-so) , played with that big-o-booty. After, I paid her and she was very happy. She grabbed a piece of paper on my desk and wrote her name and number, handed it to me and said to call her when I want her again. 500 baht and I gave her 100 baht tip. We had fun! Rested till 10:30 and went to Angel Witch and met up with another ISG member. Had a couple of beers. It was kind of slow there. Went up and down walking street. Headed down the beach and talked to a 25 year old. She said 700. I said thanks and walked on. Met a young one that was very pretty. Yep 1000 baht. Would have taken her but she had a snaggel (sc) tooth. I passed. Then I met a 31 year old. Another bubble butt woman. She asked 700. I told her 500 and she said 600. Close enough. Off we go. All the way to the room, she never stopped smiling. That goes a long way in my book. She was cheerful and bubbly. In the room we shot some photos, cleaned up and had a good time. I think she had more fun than I did. We didn't even get to the BBBJ. WHAT? So after, we clean up and I asked her to give me head. I know. I'm a pig. What? I just wanted to see if she had it. SHE DID! Gave her the 600 and 20 more for taxi and she too gave me her number and told me to call her. I love this town. It's almost 3am. Ok, till next time.
Wow! Great reports man! I have been following you throughout your trip you have inspired me to plan a trip to Pattaya next month. I like the way you write your reports very concise and informative I will be following your foot steps!
[QUOTE=Xplorer007; 1419962]Your money will be safe at the hotel as long as you use the safe!
Change few hundred at a time.
Pick pockets are in most tourist destinations as long as you are careful you should be ok.
I am planning a trip to the land of smiles in June will be taking cash, a friend of mine travels to Pattaya every 3 months and has never had a problem.[/QUOTE]I do not think the risks are that big. More than once I put my money and passport in the room-safe and then promptly forgot to close the door of the safe. Never ever got any money or valuables stolen from my room.
Pickpockets in crowded places are probably a bigger risk. I keep the money I carry in a chestpocket of my shirt or (for small amounts) in the pocket inside the crown of my hat. That nevers fails to cause interest and laughter when I pull the money out of my hat when I buy something in the 7/11!
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1419540]I only use ATMs inside banks such as the AEON in the lower level of Terminal 21 or the Citibank across Asok; and then I go straight to my hotel room.
[QUOTE]Hmm tried this. Thanks for the tip but was the only bank that wouldn't let me withdrawal with my visa. Do they have a real low minimum or something?
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1419934]I second that. Mine had just a button and it happened on a Pattaya Baht bus. She got my passport and $300 US. I had just arrived from BKK and had a carryon bag between my knees. I cannot tell you the hassle it was to lose my passport and it was expensive to get a new one. My current form of security is a zippered pouch on a nylon strap around my neck inside my shirt. When I'm on my way to the hotel safe. I caught a guy in the act once while standing room only on a crowded bus in Mazatlan. I was wearing tight jeans and he had his hand all the way inside my right front pocket where I had my money in a money clip. I did not feel a thing until I turned 180 degrees to tell my GF that our stop was coming up. He removed his hand and pretended like he wasn't there. I did not confront him as I did not feel safe there anyway.[/QUOTE]Obviously, if you're in tight surroundings, you have to be especially vigilant. I avoid those situations; especially a guy's hand on my pants, LOL!
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1421305]Obviously, if you're in tight surroundings, you have to be especially vigilant. I avoid those situations; especially a guy's hand on my pants, LOL![/QUOTE]You're quite right about crowded venues. Hindsight is always 20/20 and I was not very experienced then. 25 years ago. The guy's hand was not ON my pants it was IN my pants pocket and I could not feel it at all until I turned. Sharing this is intended as a heads up so people can learn from my mistake. How vigilant are any of us on the crowded skytrain?
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1419934]I second that. Mine had just a button and it happened on a Pattaya Baht bus. She got my passport and $300 US. I had just arrived from BKK and had a carryon bag between my knees. I cannot tell you the hassle it was to lose my passport and it was expensive to get a new one. My current form of security is a zippered pouch on a nylon strap around my neck inside my shirt. When I'm on my way to the hotel safe. I caught a guy in the act once while standing room only on a crowded bus in Mazatlan. I was wearing tight jeans and he had his hand all the way inside my right front pocket where I had my money in a money clip. I did not feel a thing until I turned 180 degrees to tell my GF that our stop was coming up. He removed his hand and pretended like he wasn't there. I did not confront him as I did not feel safe there anyway.[/QUOTE]Alway carry a color copy of your passport and have the hotel make a copy of the arrival stamp from your passport and carry both around. I never had a problem when I showed it to anyone with my hotel room card and it save the hassle of getting a new passport. Also you pants with velco or buttons pockets cannot help on a crowed bus a zipper pocket is better but a pick pocket could use a razor to cut your pants. Nothing perfect but you want to make them pick an easier target. I keep money in alot of pockets just to make it harder for them because one pocket only have small bills and two time someone tried but fail to get my money. I hope this does not spoil your vacation.
[QUOTE=Dick Hertz;1421524]I hope this does not spoil your vacation.[/QUOTE]Thanks Dick, it was painful at the time but that happened 6 years ago. I had my passport with me because I was just arriving as opposed to just out roaming around. As for pockets, my own conclusion is that they are just too vulnerable. As you say they can be cut and frequently the people doing this are quite good at what they do. I'd like to think I've learned a bit by now and the last time that I knew I was being targeted was in a supermarket, also in Pattaya. I was shopping the cheese case and a woman came alongside me to my left and started asking about cheese. It just seemed weird and when I looked to my right another older woman was closing in on me to pick my pocket. I just stepped back and got away.
Up kind of early at 11:30am. Walked the beach. Not much out today. Went back to the room and rested some more. About 3pm I head back to the beach. And met a 30 year old. At 42 kilos. Not my MO. But she gave me a big smile and there was a spark. I had to go with it. And am I glad I did. When I asked how much she said 500 baht. Hey, my lucky number! So off we go. In the room, shoot photos, clean up and had a great time. Great BBBJ. I asked if she would go all the way. She tried and almost yacked on me. Ooops! I'm a pig, I know. She road me cowgirl until she got off. I should have deducted that from her pay. Hehe! Actually I was enjoying the show she was putting on while getting off. Anther great mid day session and a 500 baht, you can't beat it. Rested till 6pm and met up with another ISG member for dinner. After we ate we split up. Went back to the room and had to lay down even more. I think I am going to need a break after my vacation. At mid night I head out to meet up with some of my buddies. All three of them were a no show. I guess they had too much fun at one of the near by islands earlier today. So I went to Blue Sky and had a beer. Then I went to Insomnia and had a beer. I said hi to a thick legged girl with a big butt. She wasn't interested in me. Oh well! Went to the Marine Disco and met another 60 kilo girl. At 2am this place was just getting started. She was all over me. She was in a big hurry to go to the room. I said ok, but in the back of my mind something wasn't right. So I stopped her and said. Maybe next time. I didn't have a good vibe with that one. So I passed and boy am I glad I did. Went to Lucifers and saw a big butt wearing a tight short dress. I hate it when I see that. I walked past her and stopped in front of her to check out her face. She saw me and smiled real big. And I hate it when they set the hook like that too! So I walked over and we chit chat for about five minutes. I asked how much for short time. She said 1000 baht. Ok, lets give this one a shot. Got to the room, shoot some photos, clean up, great BBBJ and a deeper throat, played with that ghetto booty of hers. The only downer was she had breast implants. But at least they were a smaller set of bolt-ons. Finished up and off she went. It's almost 4am.
Hey Xplorer007! Thanks for saying so. It's good to hear some positive feed back. If you have any questions. Feel free to ask. Have fun, play safe and enjoy yourself!
Out about 8 pm and it was too early for a club so I followed what sixty two echo did and hit Beach Road and the place was packed. Pick up a cutie and I said I only wanted smoke so she agree too 300. She gave a fantastic BBBJ with sucking of balls I tip her 50 and took a nap. Wake up after midnight and went back out and the pickings was slim. Alot of the girls was going home so I went to a bar and got lucky because this girl had talent. All in all a good night.
Late start again. 1:30pm. Welcome to Pattaya! Met the guys at a go go bar on soi 6. Lots of talent there. 300 baht for short time room and 700 baht for the girl. I did not partake. Mid day beer is 85 baht. Didn't stay long. They wanted to check out another place called Kinnaree. Very nice club. 500 baht cover. Dinner is included in the cover or you spend it on a girl or drinks. How ever you do it. It's a 500 baht minimum. The short time rooms are 300 baht for 1 hour (40 minutes if there are a lot of customers) and 1000 baht for the girls. I didn't eat there but my buddies that did said it was good. Two of my buddies took a girl short time. I had three beers and bought two lady drinks for a girl that was keeping me company. One of my buddies and I head to the beach. He found a 20 year old that asked 800 baht. I said. 500 baht, in Thai. She looked at me and her jaw dropped. She said 700 baht, in Thai. I said 600 baht, in Thai. She said ok. I told my buddy he owes me 200 baht. Hehe! Off they go. I walk three minutes down the beach and I meet a 21 year old, pretty. She too asked for 800 baht. I talked her down to 600 baht too. And it wasn't hard. Get to the room and shoot some photos. Yeah, she was complaining a little. Then we clean up. The BBBJ was good but didn't last long enough. Yeah she was complaining about that too. Yes, it's not starting off too good. Once we start on the down stroke she goes star fish on me. WTF? Well, after 69 girls on this trip. It was bound to happen at least once. And she was the one. The second worst performance I've had on my vacation.
Went out for a pizza with my buddy and we exchange stories. After, I went to my room to rest. About mid night I head to walking street to hook up with friends. I went to Insomnia and some older, skinny, not so pretty woman was all over me. I just said no thanks. And then I went to Lucifers. Talked to a girl with shaggy hair and a ghetto booty. All was going well until I asked her how much? She said: I don't go with men. I have a boyfriend. Later! She said wait. Want my sister? Her sister wasn't what I was looking for. I just waived bye and walked away. Soon after an ugly, older woman walks up and starts talking to me. I said: no thanks. She splits. My buddy shows up show up and we walk around the place. I smiled at a girl and she gave me a bitchy look. What ever! My buddy says hi to a girl and she just ignored him. Wow! So we head to the entrance of the club and he runs into a girl he met on an earlier trip. A third buddy shows up and the first buddy leaves with his girl. So we head to Marine Disco. Moments later another older, ugly woman comes up to me. No thank you! Then a girl hits on my buddy, but at 55 kilos, she is too big for him. He goes to the restroom leaving her at our table. He says to me. Take her if you want. After he leaves to the restroom I started talking to the girl. She picked up on the hand off and wasn't having it. She left and went back to her table and gave me the hands to her face crying signal. Who cares? My buddy returns and takes off. Soon after he leaves I meet a woman from Laos. Long straight hair, curvy body, big smile. We agree to 1000 short time. Off we go. Out side I noticed a huge zit between her nose and mouth. Hold on! What is that? She smiled and said: it's a zit. I said: sorry, I can not. She said: you don't like? I said: no, bye bye. And I went up the street. Went a few go go bars down and turned around. That is when I met a 19 year old with that big round butt I've been looking for. We chit chat for a few minutes. Then we agree to 1000 short time and we head to my hotel on a motorbike (100 baht). We get to the room, shoot some photos, clean up, fool around. With her, all woman curvy figure. It didn't take me long to finish. The only downer was she wanted me to wear a condom for the BJ. Only the second girl on this trip to do so. It's 4am when she leaves. Lights out at 4:30am for me. Till next time.
For those of you interested in seeing my photos. Read some of my posts from a couple of days ago. Work hard, play hard and stay. Safe!
My last night in Pattaya. Up at noon, met buddy at the mall for coffee. While riding on his motorbike we got pulled over at a check point. The officers asked for his paper work and drivers license. He gave them a receipt and the officer quickly said "this is not you". My buddy looked again and found the right receipt and handed it over. So then the officer asked for his license. My buddy gave it to him and the officer started asking about the different letters on his license. My buddy just handed him his international license. One look at that and the officer just handed my buddy everything. Didn't say a word and walked away. I said thank you in Thai. And he didn't respond. RUDE! Yes, this was their cash cow. And if you were a foreigner. You were getting stopped. While we were there, two guys without helmets had to leave their motorbike and take a taxi. We went to soi 6 so I could try to find a girl I had seen the day before. Of course she was not there. I asked another girl that worked there about her and see didn't even know who she was (yeah right). I asked how much for her. She said: 350 baht bar fine and 1000 baht for her. The girl I talked to yesterday said the bar fine was 300 baht and 700 baht for the girl. I said thank you and look at the other bars. I found one I liked just down the street. Thick legs, big butt, full of smiles. Asked how much. 300 bar fine and 700 for her. I told her for 1000 baht I wanted photos. She said yes! Off we go. She was 25. In the room, shoot the photos, clean up, fool around. Above average performance. Worth the 1000.
The rest of the day I spent getting ready to leave tomorrow. I visited with two other buddies. And at mid night I headed out to Walking Street. Went to Lucifers and had a beer. One of my buddies shows up and we have another beer. I seen a young one with a big butt and a big smile. I looked around a couple of times to check out the other girls and each time I looked at her. She was looking and smiling at me. That is when my buddy showed up. We ordered a drink and when I looked over at her. There was an older man hanging all over her. Ooops! Just a tad too late. She was what I was looking for so I enjoyed my beer and waited a few. Moments later he lost interest and left. I went right over and said hello. We chit chat for a few minutes. We agree to 1000 short time and off we go. She was 23. In the room we shoot some photos, clean up and have at it. Not bad, weak BJ, but nice a. After, she hops in the bed and said: we sleep now?". No, you get dressed and leave now. She looked at me and said. Really? Yes, and off she went. I don't sleep well with somebody I hardly know in the bed with me. Plus, I was getting up early and heading out the next day. Off to Bangkok for one night then it's back to California.
This vacation started March 28th at mid night in Bangkok. Since then I have been to Cambodia, the Philippines, Indonesia and back to Thailand. With stops at Singapore and Malasya. Last night was my 71st girl for the trip with time to catch one or two more in Bangkok. I think I am going to need a break when I get home. To those of you that had something positive to say, in the forum or private message. Thank you for saying so. Till next time.
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1422283]This vacation started March 28th at mid night in Bangkok. Since then I have been to Cambodia, the Philippines, Indonesia and back to Thailand. With stops at Singapore and Malasya. Last night was my 71st girl for the trip with time to catch one or two more in Bangkok. I think I am going to need a break when I get home. To those of you that had something positive to say, in the forum or private message. Thank you for saying so. Till next time.[/QUOTE]Amazing trip. I've done all that you have done but in much shorter time periods. I don't think as mid 50s guy I could do 71 girls in 6 weeks, but then again we all like a challenge. Thanks for the entertainment. Hopefully you have some Asian puss available in California otherwise those " hunger for Asian" pangs are going to be long and loud.
Sixty Two Echo,
Purely from a cost perspective, and without detracting from the most enjoyable experience, I and I'm sure fellow members, would be most interested in your expenditure from what was just shy of three months in Asia? I hope this is not irritating to you as it is of much importance to a budget traveler such as myself. You have expressed a great time.
Did you work off a daily budget?
Do you feel you came within that budget, once you get home and initiate the post mortem, how are you going to look back on this trip. Perhaps you will believe you may have spent a little too much, or even too little? Some will say: To hell with the cost! However to some, MONEY is a real issue. Do let us know, and once again thank you for your efforts.
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1422283]This vacation started March 28th at mid night in Bangkok. Since then I have been to Cambodia, the Philippines, Indonesia and back to Thailand. With stops at Singapore and Malasya. Last night was my 71st girl for the trip with time to catch one or two more in Bangkok. I think I am going to need a break when I get home. To those of you that had something positive to say, in the forum or private message. Thank you for saying so. Till next time.[/QUOTE]I quite enjoyed your reports. They were entertaining and also prove that if you miss out on one you can get another in short order. Thanks for the work you put into it.
This is a couple of years old now, but still relevant in the most part. Well worth a read if you are new to Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba; 1192809]My second time in Pattaya, my second August in a row.
All opinions and comments obviously reflect and are the result of:
1- me being a tourist in town for a few days only.
2- my own body type preferences: slim and leggy girls for sure; tall, no silicone and under 30 if possible.
Afternoon visits only.
[b]DEVIL'S DEN[/b]
I showed up a couple of days in advance of my desired date and time, and asked to book Cake + a friend of her choice: you have to leave a 1000 baht deposit.
Cake is quite tall, I think 1. 67 she told me, slim but with slightly saggy tits. The friend she opted for, Kayla, is a lot shorter, with a pretty smile and a decent enough figure.
I showed them a video and asked for a reverse deep-throat with one of them lying face-up on the bed: it seemed to me that Kayla had never tried that before, since she quickly volunteered with anticipation but also asked Cake for instructions.
Next up was a double penetration of Cake, Kayla doing her pussy with a strap-on and I doing her ass. It took a little while for Kayla and myself to get the thrusting rhythm right, but once we got going we didn't let up until I came. Cake, while participating nicely with hands and soft moans, was quite clearly totally nonplussed about the proceedings.
In between sessions we chatted a bit (as best as we could since Kayla doesn't really speak English) : Cake volunteered a funny story about her not being able to perform a certain stunt a customer asked, then Kayla's leg cramped and instead of helping we tickled her. These girls have seen it all and are quite sporty and very open: a pity I don't speak Thai because I'm sure you can have a lot of non sexual fun with them.
Cake.
[url]http://devilsdenpattaya.com/profile.php?idEscort=27[/url]
Kayla.
[url]http://devilsdenpattaya.com/profile.php?idEscort=134[/url]
[b]CHAMPAGNE gogo bar[/b]
Nice little place, not a lot of girls but always at least 5 young ones on stage, really starts to get going around 6pm but you can definitely show up earlier and find the same ladies. Good atmosphere, on my first visit there were a couple of older customers with big black shades dancing with the waitresses, on the second one another guy was getting a foot job on the couches.
Chose a spinner who loved to dance, selected through the mamasan, and went to consume in the nearby Kilkenny hotel, which is owned by the same Australian boss of the gogo, and therefore doubles up as a short-time-room accomodation.
All in all a pretty good afternoon option as long as you don't mind the final expenditure: 600 barfine + 1500 for service + the necessary couple drinks + the possible tip + the possible short time hotel = 2500/3000 baht, keeping in mind that in the afternoon you can't do long-time take outs.
For less than that you can do a DD girl next door of comparable looks but infinitely better sex skills.
Interesting bit: the staff gets fined 5 baht for every minute of lateness.
[b]OASIS gogo bar[/b]
Not really in soi LK Metro, but that's the area: around 5pm there were only chubby and / or older women.
A little less entertaining then how I remembered it from last year visit: on two different days, weekday and weekend, both in the afternoon and around midnight, there were very few customers. Some of the girls and ladyboys do their best to liven up the street with the soi 6 trademark calling / running / holding, but there's only so much they can do.
I had a drink here and there, but the only 2 bars which not only had girls in a uniform but also made an effort to present them well, were LISA (close to Beach Road) and SAIGON (close to Second Road).
Personally I wish that more of the girls would make an effort to stand up and let you asses them properly, but then again with few exceptions, and cost aside, I think you should never choose soi 6 ladies based on their appearance, but based on them being a little crazy and / or willing to do anal. You can check my choice in the pic below.
I remember reading somewhere that soi 6 can be a bit rough / dangerous at night: while I can't conclusively dispute that, both times I showed up around midnight (bars close at 1am) I felt safe and couldn't see anything dodgy going on. It must be said that I was sober.
A note: walking towards the beach in the late afternoon you'll be blinded by the sun and won't be able to leisurely check out the ladies.
Last year the Beach Road left me very underwhelmed, but I now think it was possibly because of the market. This year I noticed a vast amount of girls, I would say probably about 100 by day and 200 in the evening, in the stretch between soi 8 and soi 13.
Not many will approach you, and quite a few have a kind of dead look, but if street walkers / freelancers is your thing then there are definitely some ladies worth a closer inspection.
Compared to gogo bars, the beer bars seem to attract an older crowd: many customers appeared to me to be regulars and well acquainted with the staff.
In my pics below you'll see a few bar girls: I didn't have sex with any of them, they were just fun girls I took photos with. Still, I guess they could be representative of the average quality available.
[b]SOI 7 and 8[/b]
Can I say that I was expecting more?
I was introduced to Thai beer bars in Patong (Phuket) , and since then that has been my basis for comparison.
In this case I found both sois to offer very average quality, few customers and even less atmosphere. Plenty of ladyboys, of course.
[b]SECOND ROAD[/b]
There are small complexes of bars all along Second Road, but very few customers.
[b]WALKING ST[/b]
These are the bars I enjoyed the most: more action, some pole dancers, girls spoke better English.
With one single exception, at every gogo I visited I stayed at least for 2 lineups, and many of them I visited twice or more: still, with a sample of 6 days only, obviously this isn't a statistical study.
Costs, as reported here, are somewhat fixed: 600 barfine. 1500/2000 short time. 3000 long time.
During this holiday I made an effort to always talk to the mamasan before finalizing my choice: it may cost you an extra drink, but the benefits are undeniable.
[b]AIRPORT[/b]
Probably would not barfine from this gogo as the dancers are average, but it's a fun venue to spend time: great energy.
Together with the Moon Club has the best looking waitresses.
A very cute spinner doing pirouettes on the wet stage, and better tub / soap girls than I remembered from last year.
[b]ALCATRAZ[/b]
A big venue that left me a bit baffled: plenty of girls inside, but very few dancing at any given time. Pity because I found the jailer costumes they wore quite appealing.
Possibly a couple of ladyboys.
Only gogo with a toilet attendant.
[b]ANGELWITCH[/b]
Waited 20 minutes for some show to manifest itself. The girls were below average. I left.
[b]BABYDOLLS[/b]
One of the 'interaction' gogos, where you can finger / lick / spank girls.
The quality was otherwise very low.
Ladies on stage were dancing barefoot.
[b]BACCARA[/b]
Of those I visited, and apparently agreed upon by everyone, the gogo with the best looking girls, and they have more than 100 employed.
The best place to have guilty fun with ping pong balls.
If a dancer wants an extra day off (they get 3 a month, and this is common to all gogos) , she has to pay a barfine of 1000 baht, not 600 as it used to be.
Selected 2 different ladies here, one of which is 1. 72 tall!
[b]CAROUSEL[/b]
They would have the best stage, a round rotating one, but quality is poor. When you're watching videos of Jap girls instead of the dancers, you know you have to get out.
[b]CASNOVY[/b]
Instead of 1 or 2 stages, they have about 15, all of which can only accommodate 1 dancer.
There are 2 or 3 ladies, defined by mamasan as 'top girls', which command a barfine of 1000 baht, but otherwise regular take out prices. You pay in full immediately, which had me a bit worried, but the girl came through with an excellent performance worthy of a good tip and a repeat.
When a customer barfines a girl the mamasan goes around to touch the staff with the money she has received, I guess it's some kind of good luck thing.
[b]CAVERN[/b]
Chubby average girls, few customers.
[b]FAHRENHEIT[/b]
Plenty of girls outside, barely any inside.
[b]HAPPY[/b]
I like Happy. It's a smaller venue were girls put effort into their dancing and try to establish eye contact.
Various body types to satisfy every customer, without any fugly around.
I would estimate about 50 ladies to choose from.
[b]IRON[/b]
Poor seating, few girls and less customers.
[b]MOON[/b]
Apparently opened a couple of months ago, this gets my nod as the best gogo for the overall experience.
- all the staff was extremely pleasant, especially the mamasan who sat chatting with me for a good 10 minutes.
- some good looking waitresses.
- a couple of mixed-blood ladies doing shows.
- one half naked farang lady customer having the time of her life fingering everything that got near her, and having her nipples sucked.
- above average dancers.
- my own choice, who proved to be the best gogo fuck of this holiday.
Here too you pay in full in advance.
[b]PEPPERMINT[/b]
Average girls, a bit pushy for drinks, ok dancing.
[b]SUPERGIRL[/b]
Short cute girls with hair and make-up aimed at our Japanese brothers.
Also the songs played were strictly Jap.
[b]WINDMILL[/b]
The interaction place for excellence: bananas and dildos flying around, free fingering, the noisy whips, customers getting underneath the shower too. Not my kind of place but packed and very entertaining, with guys having mad fun.
Last year I liked the [i][b]MERCURE[/b][/i], and saw no reason to change: girlfriendly, private safe, quiet, good pool.
[url]http://www.mercure.com/gb/hotel-5649-mercure-hotel-pattaya/index.shtml[/url]
[b]RUEN THAI[/b]
Kind of famous and highly rated on TripAdvisor: can I say tourist trap, or was it just an unlucky choice of dishes? They have an ok traditional dancing show, but the (supposedly) Thai food was beyond bland.
[b]FUJI and OISHI RAMEN[/b]
Both located inside the Central Festival shopping mall, and both a disappointment.
At Fuji the sushi is too cheap for the fish to be good, and at the ramen place the soup is a poor attempt at replicating the Japanese original.
[b]ZICO'S[/b]
Last year I tried the Samui branch, and I can confirm that if you like meat and Brazilian Churrasco in particular, this should be a stop. At 1000 baht for all you can eat food and a couple of beers it isn't cheap by Thai standards, but being a buffet it's up to you to make it count! And if you exaggerate a bit you can always take a 'pleasant', digestive stroll along the Beach Road all the way to Walking St.
[b]KING SEAFOOD[/b]
One of the seafood restaurants at the beginning of Walking St on the right (sea side).
An acceptable touristy choice if you keep within the Thai menu, but the seafood isn't worth the price.
[b]SEAFOOD something[/b]
I could be confused, but I think it's in soi Lucky Star off Walking St, past the pool tables: typical no frills place with plastic chairs where you can order both seafood and traditional Thai dishes a lot cheaper then what it would cost you in a place like the above mentioned King Seafood. Quite a few bargirl / customer couples, and it's open until very late.
[b]FARANGS[/b]
Compared to last year I noticed an increase of shirtless guys: aged 30 to 50, showing off their muscles and tattoos, they parade around at all times, even in Walking St in the early evening among the throngs of regular tourists.
I have no further comment.
[b]WEATHER[/b]
- last year 3 days: one and a half sunny. 1 drizzle.
- this year 6 days: four sunny ones. 2 showers. 1 drizzle.
Am I just lucky or the climate in August in Pattaya is always this good?
[b]CENTRAL FESTIVAL[/b]
If you decided to score regular girls the obvious targets would be the shop attendants at Central Festival mall, but as a single male in Pattaya, would they take you seriously?
Once in a while you'll need a little respite from the sex madness of Pattaya: the theatre on the 6th floor understandably doesn't play any European art-house stuff, but with 10 screens you'll certainly find a couple of watchable flicks.
[b]LOGISTICS[/b]
Either along Second Road or the Beach Road, spare yourself the walk between soi 6 and soi 7: counterintuitive they are quite far apart and there's nothing in that stretch.
[b]MASSAGE WITH (OUT) HAPPY ENDING[/b]
Went for a regular massage at a supposedly regular parlor on Second Road. Problem was, I was under the full effect of Cialis, and for a full hour couldn't get rid of a raging erection. The young masseuse kept grabbing my cock asking I wanted to be relieved, but I didn't intend to 'waste' a shot, so I kept thanking her but passing on the offer. The least relaxing massage ever!
[b]VITAMINS[/b]
The first pharmacy I tried had original stuff at prices about 100 baht cheaper than what I was quoted along Sukhumvit in Bangkok: a bit lazy of me, but I didn't look further.
Cialis (four 20g tablets) : 2. 200.
Viagra (four 100g tablets) : 2. 200.
Levitra (four 20g tablets) : 2. 000.
Thanks as always to all those who contribute to the forum,
Ryo[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nobbin;1422737]This is a couple of years old now, but still relevant in the most part. Well worth a read if you are new to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]You posted 15 screens of a quote just to add two lines of comment. Please consider editing the quotes. If some one wants to read the whole quote they can click [View Original Post]. Some people read the forums on smart phones and tablets and scrolling through a long quote is a pain. It also is a complete waste of bandwidth plus the quote is a couple of years old. How about posting a link to the quote?
Think before you quote, please. :)
Thanks,
Slim
[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1423123]You posted 15 screens of a quote just to add two lines of comment. Please consider editing the quotes. If some one wants to read the whole quote they can click [View Original Post]. Some people read the forums on smart phones and tablets and scrolling through a long quote is a pain. It also is a complete waste of bandwidth plus the quote is a couple of years old. How about posting a link to the quote?
Think before you quote, please. .
Thanks,
Slim[/QUOTE]I absolutely agree, but take note that the View Original Post function no longer works since Jackson reformatted the forum some months ago.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1423127]that the View Original Post function no longer works[/QUOTE]Huh? Just tried it out and here on my laptop it's working just fine.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Ekspat; 1423129]Huh? Just tried it out and here on my laptop it's working just fine.
Cheers![/QUOTE]Will wonders ever cease?
I click it and get transported instantly to the year 2006.
[QUOTE=Nobbin;1422737]This is a couple of years old now, but still relevant in the most part. Well worth a read if you are new to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Just relay this in the RoD and it will be accessible for long to those who RTFF
How's soi 6 these days? Prices still 700 +300? How's the talent?
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1423221]How's soi 6 these days? Prices still 700 +300? How's the talent?[/QUOTE]Yes, for upstairs rooms this is the rate. And there is still very good talent there, but may have to be patient.
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1421593]I asked how much for short time. She said 1000 baht.[/QUOTE]Nice reports. May I suggest that next time you don't ask them how much. If you shag them just once, give them a 500 and if you keep them till morning
/afternoon and shag them 2-3 times, then fork over 1, 000.
I am in Pattaya now.
Some of the girls on soi 6 are asking for more then 700, especially at night. I was quoted 1000 in house and 1500 at my hotel. This was for st. Still are many there for 700.
On beach road the price fluctuates also depending on girl.
It is bad advice to take a girl without getting price for service worked out ahead of time.
You might get hit with sticker aftershock and why risk that headache?
Tellall
[QUOTE=RBDave;1423224]And there is still very good talent there.[/QUOTE]Please describe 'very good talent'
I went there and was the only persons which was fine. I originally went looking for bliss Lounge but couldn't find it at all. Walked all over the oasis, lk metro. 2nd Road 3rd Road area and nothing. Hard to find shit if the roads are all in Thai.
Back to my friend. Taw / tak came to meet me. This was my first BJ bar ever. So wasn't sure of how it worked. I sat at the bar she came over looked pretty good and began to talk to me. Was rubbing my cock through my shorts and in no time I was ready for her mouth. She said it was 800 and we can go behind the beaded curtains. If anyone else was in bar they can clearly see but I was alone. I have a seat there and she comes with her kit takes off her top and cleans me. I was a bit nervous but she put me at ease. Always giving me eyes contact and Moaning, slurping, taking it deep and I began to face fuck her sitting down. Played with her tits and tittie fucked her a bit. I'm sure FS was available but didn't ask. After about 35 minutes I blew my load in her mouth and she took the load like a champ in mouth. She was the best looking out of the bunch. The only downside was she must have eaten her tom sum goon before cause my dick was burning a bit in her mouth. Other then that it was a great first experience. As I was putting my shorts back on three guys came in with three girls following them and they all sat next to each other in the same curtained area and I guess they were all friends cause they began dropping their pants very quickly, laughing and talking to each other.
I got there a bit late like 1:30 and I sit next to this one girl who was sleeping. I ask her long night and she gets up right away and begins talking to me. I wasn't feeling her but right away another girl jumps on me and she was a lot of fun. She was #149. Begins Riding me and touching me and I say Bingo. I buy her a LD and tell her I dont want to pay the 600 bhat fine but to meet me outside in the beer garden at 3 and she was fine. The first sleeping girl was her cousin. So we talk a bit and everything is great, English is good enough and rides me for like 30 minutes before I head out. I go to beer garden to wait and sure enough at 3 she shows up looking cute as hell with her street clothes and her cousin. Problem is now, no English. At all. Strike 1.
I was already very horny and after 3 am and she was pretty so I decide to go ahead. Walk and take taxi to Hotel since I was in lk metro and it was only 100 so didn't want her walking 20+ minutes in heels. Yes I am a gentleman. Once I get to htl she stops to Pray to Buddha shrine. I find that funny. I get to room and she complains it is hot. I take a shower and she wants to take shower alone strike 2. All the vibe in the club is gone. I take shower first and then she goes in. I make sure nothing was missing and when she gets done I begin. Weak Bj. Almost began Cbj but I insisted so maybe that's why I got a weak bbbj. Start with missionary after cover and then doggie. She fake moans and very little kissing but I hadn't noticed her braces before so not into it either. I give her an angry pounding for about 40 minutes and then I cum. She didn't take CIM. Overall it was ok. She was cute and had a nice body but no chemistry out of club. I had offered 2500 in club but gave her 2000 In htl since her performance was bad. I said stay a few more hours and get the other 500 and she said no. So I did give her a chance to make her money. Gave her the 2000 and left. One of the worst was lying about no English when in club she was telling me jokes and having normal conversations.
I think bkk has better quality girls overall.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1423568]Please describe 'very good talent'[/QUOTE]Sorry, I should have said there are some cute girls there. Wasn't implying their skills are any better than anywhere else.
[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1423575]I went there and was the only persons which was fine. I originally went looking for bliss Lounge but couldn't find it at all. Walked all over the oasis, lk metro. 2nd Road 3rd Road area and nothing. Hard to find shit if the roads are all in Thai.[/QUOTE]Here is a link to the Google Street View of Bliss Lounge [url]http://goo.gl/maps/3d8qB[/url]
I know exactly where it is. Maybe Next time.
[QUOTE=RBDave; 1423662]Here is a link to the Google Street View of Bliss Lounge.
[url]http://goo.gl/maps/3d8qB[/url][/QUOTE]
Hello fellow mongers! Well, I am back in the states and I think I am over the jet lag. I see there were a couple of questions and comments after my last post here. I crunched some numbers. So for those of you who are interested. My vacation was 51 days long and I visited Thailand, Cambodia, the Philippines and Indonesia. I guess you could pull my posts and see for yourselves. I had 73 girls at a total cost of $1, 78. 94. That averages to $24. 42 per girl. I only short time. I did have one or two girls that asked if they could sleep over. And when they woke up. I sent them on their way. My hotels add up to $1, 260. 70. That's $24. 72 per day average. My eight flights cost me $1, 873. 63. That's $234. 63 per flight. I started and finished in LAX. Those numbers add up to $4, 917. 27. I rounded my trip off to $6, 000. 00. The extra $1000. 00 and change was a guest-a-mation on food, drinks, taxis, buses and anything else I might have bought. I am not a heavy drinker for the most part nor do I dine at expensive restaurants. So either you can look at it as a per day average. $117. 00 or an average per girl. $82. 19. That's total cost averages (flights, hotels, girl, food. Etc). Either way. It was my longest trip and the trip I had the most girls. My daily budget goal was $100. 00 per day. So I went over that a little. But it didn't brake the bank. I consider this trip a very fun and memorable experience. A couple of other notes. I figured I lost ten days for traveling. I contracted a respiratory infection about week four, which slowed me down a tad. I had the runs twice. Effecting four days. Oh yeah, I did the none pricing before going to the room a couple of times. Always by accident. And just about every time it has bit me on the butt. So I try to always cover the cost, time and services before heading to the room. The "shot gun" method does not work for me. If it works for some of you out there. Power to you. Out of the 73 girls. Only two were a waste of my time. The other 71 were worth it and most were a great time. Once again, I hope this helps those looking for it. For those veterans, I hope you found my posts some what entertaining. For those of you who said something positive, thank you! And to anybody who has something bad to say. Keep it to yourself, we don't want to hear it. Really, we don't!
In a week I am going to the Dominican Republic for two weeks. I have been there twice before and the one thing I can say about the DR. Is those girls give the best blow jobs! Well, in my opinion. Rock on, mongers!
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1423716]I visited Thailand, Cambodia, the Philippines and Indonesia. I had 73 girls at a total cost of $1, 78. 94. That averages to $24. 42 per girl. I only short time. I hope you found my posts some what entertaining. For those of you who said something positive, thank you! And to anybody who has something bad to say. Keep it to yourself, we don't want to hear it. Really, we don't! In a week I am going to the Dominican Republic for two weeks. I have been there twice before and the one thing I can say about the DR. Is those girls give the best blow jobs! Well, in my opinion. Rock on, mongers![/QUOTE]Hey Sixty Two, I enjoyed reading your trip reports. You have a different style of play than me, but that's cool. You are a fellow punter. So summarizing, what was your favorite destination or destinations? Where did you find the most attractive girls, in your opinion? And was there one or two or three girls that stood out from the rest?
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo; 1423716]Hello fellow mongers! Well, I am back in the states.
I crunched some numbers. So for those of you who are interested.
Those numbers add up to $4, 917. 27. I rounded my trip off to $6, 000. 00. The extra $1000. 00 and change was a guest-a-mation on food, drinks, taxis, buses and anything else I might have bought.
I am not a heavy drinker for the most part nor do I dine at expensive restaurants. So either you can look at it as a per day average. $117. 00 or an average per girl. $82. 19.[/QUOTE]Thanks for providing this breakdown. I think it will be very helpful for mongers who are new to SE Asia. While it's easy to spend $100 a day on lodging and $300 per diem, plus travel costs, this breakdown together with your other posts show how a guy can have almost 2 months of fantastic mongering on a very modest budget.
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1423716]A couple of other notes. I figured I lost ten days for traveling. I contracted a respiratory infection about week four, which slowed me down a tad. I had the runs twice. Effecting four days. Oh yeah, I did the none pricing before going to the room a couple of times. Always by accident. And just about every time it has bit me on the butt. So I try to always cover the cost, time and services before heading to the room. The "shot gun" method does not work for me. If it works for some of you out there. Power to you. Out of the 73 girls. Only two were a waste of my time. The other 71 were worth it and most were a great time. Once again, I hope this helps those looking for it. For those veterans, I hope you found my posts some what entertaining. For those of you who said something positive, thank you! And to anybody who has something bad to say. Keep it to yourself, we don't want to hear it. Really, we don't![/QUOTE]Even if we have quite different mongering gameplan (never discuss price upfront, budget. 99% FL and datingsitegirls, +-70% LT play, mongeringlocations, drinking etc) I enjoy reading your reports. Like you regarding the respiratory trouble you mention I also gets this somewhere along my trip into SEA (mostly towards the end and strangely almost everytime when I walk in the door back home everything is fine). Atleast the last 1. 5 year or so (20 trips +-) I have had this and it has slowed me down for 1. 3 days (even called in sick).
I have earlier tend to have around +19-20Celcius inside room, I have now turned it up to 23-24C without helping one bit. Is filthy AC to be blamed? I party hard and sleep not very much so ofcourse my immune system is a bit runned down and accepts any airborn stuff easier than it usualy do when I am not in mongering mode.
Hey guys! Let me see if I can answer all of your questions. The Philippines was my most enjoyable country this vacation. I ran into a lot of very attractive, young girls (18-28 year olds) which had a lot of skills. Most of which I found on blow job alley. I did learn that the mamasans teach their girls how to give head. The instructors and students are doing a great job. And at 700 to 800 Philippine pesos short time. You can't beat it. For most attractive women as a country. It's a three way toss up between Thailand, the Philippines and Indonesia. Their raven hair, dark eyes, hour glass figures, big butts and thick thighs. Yeah, I surrender. Actually, I had a lot of women this trip that were in the 60 kilo range, which translates into big butt / thick thighs. And in SE Asia. I did have to hunt around sometimes. I think there was a high average of 60 kilo girls in Indonesia.
Standouts. A girl in Subic City, Philippines. She was one of the sexiest girls I have seen. As a matter of fact, when I walked into her club and passed her. I stopped and told her I had been to 31 countries and she was the prettiest girl I had ever seen. After just one dance on stage, she ran over and glued herself to my side. She was 19, curvy and sexy as all get up. But she had few skills in bed. Typical! And she was 1500 pesos. The second stand out was also from the Philippines. This time in Angeles City. She was 18. She too had an hour glass figure, big butt, thick thighs, great smile. But she had skills. And at 750 pesos / ST. A great time at a great price. There were about two dozen others over the course of my visit that were great. Most of the 73 girls on this trip were good to very good. Only 2 out of 73 were starfish / duds. That is a great ratio.
I have no doubt that my breathing problems were caused by pollution and the dirt / dust kicked up in the streets. Second hand smoke sure didn't help either. The PI and Indonesia are terrible when it comes to smoking. There you have it. Now that I am over the jet lag. I just might go to Tijuana, Mexico tomorrow. It's only one hour and forty minutes south of me. Play safe!
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1423749]I have no doubt that my breathing problems were caused by pollution and the dirt / dust kicked up in the streets. Second hand smoke sure didn't help either. The PI and Indonesia are terrible when it comes to smoking. There you have it. Now that I am over the jet lag. I just might go to Tijuana, Mexico tomorrow. It's only one hour and forty minutes south of me. Play safe![/QUOTE]Thanks. 62Echo for all the interesting, entertaining reports. Much appreciated.
SW
Took a day of scouting but arranged a 3 some with 2 girls that did not know each other and never had a lesbian experience.
[blue][Text in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING Deleted by Admin][/blue]. Especially considering both girls were cute and it was as close to free as you can get.
Love Pattaya girls (they get it)
[u][b]EDITOR's NOTE[/b][/u]: [blue]This report was redacted or deleted because it was written in [u]ALL CAPITAL LETTERING[/u]. In the future, please do not write reports in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue]
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo; 1423716]Hello fellow mongers! Well, I am back in the states and I think I am over the jet lag. I see there were a couple of questions and comments after my last post here. I crunched some numbers. So for those of you who are interested. My vacation was 51 days long and I visited Thailand, Cambodia, the Philippines and Indonesia. I guess you could pull my posts and see for yourselves. I had 73 girls at a total cost of $1, 78. 94. That averages to $24. 42 per girl. I only short time. I did have one or two girls that asked if they could sleep over. And when they woke up. I sent them on their way. My hotels add up to $1, 260. 70. That's $24. 72 per day average. My eight flights cost me $1, 873. 63. That's $234. 63 per flight. I started and finished in LAX. Those numbers add up to $4, 917. 27. I rounded my trip off to $6, 000. 00. The extra $1000. 00 and change was a guest-a-mation on food, drinks, taxis, buses and anything else I might have bought. I am not a heavy drinker for the most part nor do I dine at expensive restaurants. So either you can look at it as a per day average. $117. 00 or an average per girl. $82. 19. That's total cost averages (flights, hotels, girl, food. Etc). Either way. It was my longest trip and the trip I had the most girls. My daily budget goal was $100. 00 per day. So I went over that a little. But it didn't brake the bank. I consider this trip a very fun and memorable experience. A couple of other notes. I figured I lost ten days for traveling. I contracted a respiratory infection about week four, which slowed me down a tad. I had the runs twice. Effecting four days. Oh yeah, I did the none pricing before going to the room a couple of times. Always by accident. And just about every time it has bit me on the butt. So I try to always cover the cost, time and services before heading to the room. The "shot gun" method does not work for me. If it works for some of you out there. Power to you. Out of the 73 girls. Only two were a waste of my time. The other 71 were worth it and most were a great time. Once again, I hope this helps those looking for it. For those veterans, I hope you found my posts some what entertaining. For those of you who said something positive, thank you! And to anybody who has something bad to say. Keep it to yourself, we don't want to hear it. Really, we don't!
In a week I am going to the Dominican Republic for two weeks. I have been there twice before and the one thing I can say about the DR. Is those girls give the best blow jobs! Well, in my opinion. Rock on, mongers![/QUOTE]Sixty two,
You done well 51 days and 73 girl at a cost of 6000 USD included airfare WOW that very good you budget this trip well, I can never budget less than 100 USD a day even without airfare and transportations do you keep a log everyday on your spending are you planning to write this off as a business trip on your tax return, I lose count on how many girl I do and how much I spend unless I can write it off.
Fast Eddie 48
I have 12 month contract in Bangkok. 6000 baht / month room. Supposedly similar places go for 4500 baht / month so I could've over paid but it is clean, private with security. Good A. C. And near BTS.
If any Pattaya regulars would like to exchange room with me for 1-3 weeks in future let me know. Does not have to be nice but of course I would like to bring girls there to fuck every day and you could do the same at my place but besides that I will be out of the room most of the time. Easy way to save each of us $200-$600.
Hey Fast Eddie 48, yeah, I keep journals of all my vacations. Journals along with my albums. I plan on strolling down memory lane as an old man. Besides the journals, I log my girls, names, ages, performance and cost. It fills the day and it's nice to review. I negotiate with all the girls and all the hotels, and I do fairly well. And since I stay at hotels for a week or more at a time usually. I ask for discounts and get it most of the time. Next week I head to the Dominican Republic for two weeks.
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo; 1423716]Hello fellow mongers! Well, I am back in the states and I think I am over the jet lag. I see there were a couple of questions and comments after my last post here. I crunched some numbers. So for those of you who are interested. My vacation was 51 days long and I visited Thailand, Cambodia, the Philippines and Indonesia. I guess you could pull my posts and see for yourselves. I had 73 girls at a total cost of $1,78.94. That averages to $24. 42 per girl. I only short time. I did have one or two girls that asked if they could sleep over. And when they woke up. I sent them on their way. My hotels add up to $1,260.70. That's $24.72 per day average. My eight flights cost me $1, 873. 63. That's $234.63 per flight. I started and finished in LAX. Those numbers add up to $4,917.27. I rounded my trip off to $6, 000. 00. The extra $1000. 00 and change was a guest-a-mation on food, drinks, taxis, buses and anything else I might have bought. I am not a heavy drinker for the most part nor do I dine at expensive restaurants. So either you can look at it as a per day average. $117. 00 or an average per girl. $82.19. That's total cost averages (flights, hotels, girl, food. Etc). Either way. It was my longest trip and the trip I had the most girls. My daily budget goal was $100. 00 per day. So I went over that a little. But it didn't brake the bank. I consider this trip a very fun and memorable experience. A couple of other notes. I figured I lost ten days for traveling. I contracted a respiratory infection about week four, which slowed me down a tad. I had the runs twice. Effecting four days. Oh yeah, I did the none pricing before going to the room a couple of times. Always by accident. And just about every time it has bit me on the butt. So I try to always cover the cost, time and services before heading to the room. The "shot gun" method does not work for me. If it works for some of you out there. Power to you. Out of the 73 girls. Only two were a waste of my time. The other 71 were worth it and most were a great time. Once again, I hope this helps those looking for it. For those veterans, I hope you found my posts some what entertaining. For those of you who said something positive, thank you! And to anybody who has something bad to say. Keep it to yourself, we don't want to hear it. Really, we don't!
In a week I am going to the Dominican Republic for two weeks. I have been there twice before and the one thing I can say about the DR. Is those girls give the best blow jobs! Well, in my opinion. Rock on, mongers![/QUOTE]Just returned from the Dom Rep about a week ago, I'm leaving for Thailand in about a week. It looks like we are switching stomping grounds. Been to the DR many times and have a fairly good handle on the mongering situation in the DR. If you need any info let me know I'the be happy to help out. I found your daily routine post in Pattaya to be useful as this will be my first time there.
Chirs
[QUOTE=Harold444;1424370]I'll bite. Where exactly is your BKK apt. Near bts meaning 20 minute walk?[/QUOTE]800 meters. Motobike taxi's here almost 24/7.
Hey Chris Long! Thanks for saying so and thanks for the offer. I have been to the DR twice before. This time should be even more fun. I am going with two of my buddies and two more are either there or arriving soon after I do. That's too funny. We did a fly by with each other. Same here. If you have any more questions, pull my posts or send me a message. I would like to help if I can.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1423133]Will wonders ever cease?
I click it and get transported instantly to the year 2006.[/QUOTE]Same here. In the Jakarta forum I clck "View Original post" and land around page 400.
Regards,
Ko
[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1424783]Same here. In the Jakarta forum I clck "View Original post" and land around page 400.
Regards,
Ko[/QUOTE]And in this forum, after sending my previous post abour 2 minutes ago, I returned to page 800.
Strange.
Regards,
Ko
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1424364]Hey Fast Eddie 48, yeah, I keep journals of all my vacations. Journals along with my albums. I plan on strolling down memory lane as an old man. Besides the journals, I log my girls, names, ages, performance and cost. It fills the day and it's nice to review. I negotiate with all the girls and all the hotels, and I do fairly well. And since I stay at hotels for a week or more at a time usually. I ask for discounts and get it most of the time. Next week I head to the Dominican Republic for two weeks.[/QUOTE]To Sxity two echo.
I know that you enjoy AC the best because of the cheap sex yes blow row Santo st is cheap but some time you need to said WTF and bar fine one of the hottie at crystal place for 3000 p all night you only live once.
Fast Eddie 48
Arrived in Pattaya around 2:00 pm yesterday, walked Beach Road from Mike's Shopping Center to Hilton, saw about 30 Working Girls out in the heat. As a few others have posted, many of the palm trees have been removed from the sidewalk area, so it is more open but now less shaded. I also saw a work crew on the sidewalk drilling holes into the concrete, small, square, look like placement for street lights.
None of the girls I saw on my walk were worth checking out, many were the same old ladies you see every time, day or night. Several young but not pretty, and either disgustingly skinny or too fat for my taste. So I went with Plan B, oil massage at Culture Club on Soi 11 off 2nd Street, almost behind the Hilton. I've been to C. C. Four or five times and always left satisfied. Girls are 7 or so but enthusiastic and very good at what they do.
I walked in (no one was sitting outside in the heat) , three girls inside, one asleep, one girl immediately jumped up, I guess she was on rotation, took me to the counter to pay. She was cute, not beautiful, and had very nice thighs and a round ass, good for me! 300 THB for one hour massage, pay at the desk. The girl introduced herself as "No" and walked me back to the massage area. Open space with about 10 beds, separated by curtains. We were the only ones in there, shame, sometimes I like to hear others getting it on during my massage! I undressed, she started a nice, very light oil massage on my back, then on the flip she immediately grabbed my raging hard-on and asked what I wanted? She suggested "everything" and I agreed. She asked how much I would pay? I have always paid THB 500 for FS here, so I gave this suggestion to her. Surprisingly, she countered with 1, 000. Crap. I stood fast on 500 for about 10 minutes and she would not budge from 1, 000. This is not my experience at C. C! I decided I would just finish the massage and leave, and my hard-on was now gone, but she started a BBBJ to get me going again, then once I was hard she offered 800. She told me I would be so happy I would tip her the extra 200. So I accepted. It was very nice, she had some great muscle-control in that pussy, had a way of squeezing the head of my penis as I pulled slowly out, then reinsert. We got some rhythm going and it was awesome. I came after 20 minutes or so, just as the hour was to end. I paid the 800 and was happy to give it.
I sat at the Scandinavian Bar on Beach Road around 6 pm, this bar is near the entrance to the Marriott, and watched the girls filter in on the sidewalk, beach side. A few looked interesting, one in particular had a great, curvy body, just my type. I went for dinner, returned about 45 minutes later and she was gone. My loss. But I had selected a second choice, a young girl wearing a flower-print dress, and she was still there. I sat next to her, she immediately wanted to "go with me", no small talk, so I knew this was short-time only. After just a few minutes I offered THB 500 for short time, she agreed, off we went.
In the shower I saw a great body, larger breasts than I thought, and a great ass! She is dark skinned, from Rayong and told me her name was "Tik". Very lively, joking and playing around. When we got to the bed she did a slow, lazy hand job just for fun, then right into BBBJ. She would stop every few minutes to smile, make a comment about size, then get back to it.
We started in mish, then scissors, then doggy, then finished by doggy lying flat, I blew my load. She had a great whimper going the whole time and I could feel her getting very wet.
Once I finished and rolled off, she was straight in the shower and ready to leave. OK with me, this is what I expected from her "rush" to "go with me". So I gave the 500 and went out looking for a glass of red wine to finish the night.
Just strolled up Beach Road at 5 am, just as the sun is starting to come up. Maybe 100, 150 girls still on the beach. To my surprise some real stunners out there, great smiles, beautiful faces. Much better selection that 3 pm or 7 pm yesterday! I assume these girls finished their guy off from last night and hit the beach on their way home. I was intrigued, but also a bit worried about being at least the second guy to DFK or worse. DATY. Maybe the fourth or fifth! Kept walking, but if early morning beauty is your thing, you'll find it on Beach Road. By the way, I walked from Marriott to Hyatt, girls all along the way.
Mea culpa.
[QUOTE=BushWhack;1424888]I was intrigued, but also a bit worried about being at least the second guy to DFK or worse. DATY. Maybe the fourth or fifth! Kept walking, but if early morning beauty is your thing, you'll find it on Beach Road.[/QUOTE]Nice report. Beach Road is really low quality until 7-8pm, glad to hear it goes on at night.
As for being the 4th or 5th. You'll actually be 1000th, most of the time (if she's been working for 2-3 years). Most girl would have taken at least 2 showers (after, before) between the last guy and you. I don't see why the difference between 3h or 15h time gap between customers would be a huge deal.
[QUOTE=BushWhack;1424888]Just strolled up Beach Road at 5 am, just as the sun is starting to come up. Maybe 100, 150 girls still on the beach. To my surprise some real stunners out there, great smiles, beautiful faces. Much better selection that 3 pm or 7 pm yesterday! I assume these girls finished their guy off from last night and hit the beach on their way home. I was intrigued, but also a bit worried about being at least the second guy to DFK or worse. DATY. Maybe the fourth or fifth! Kept walking, but if early morning beauty is your thing, you'll find it on Beach Road. By the way, I walked from Marriott to Hyatt, girls all along the way.[/QUOTE]Tell me about it. Most are fugly but their are some hot ones mixed in. The other day, I summoned a light skin one. 9 face. 9 ass. Dirt cheap and hot as fuck in my eyes but subconscious about her post baby belly which was not bad. Hilarious these girls and their hang ups. Blowjob was ridiculous. Amazing I did not cum instantly.
Hey Fast Eddie 48, nope, over paying for a girl is not my style. I will keep playing the laws of average. I can have four girls for that same 3000 php. I'm running a marathon, not a sprint. Heading to the DR tomorrow. Oooohoooow!
[QUOTE=Sixty Two Echo;1425266]Hey Fast Eddie 48, nope, over paying for a girl is not my style. I will keep playing the laws of average. I can have four girls for that same 3000 php. I'm running a marathon, not a sprint. Heading to the DR tomorrow. Oooohoooow![/QUOTE]To Sixty two Echo.
That is not over paying sometime you just need to go to Superagogo and get the hottest girl and barfined her
Instead of shopping at beach Road every night for 500 bht WG, it is a experience of a life time you only live once.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=BushWhack;1424886]I sat at the Scandinavian Bar on Beach Road around 6 pm, this bar is near the entrance to the Marriott, and watched the girls filter in on the sidewalk, beach side. A few looked interesting, one in particular had a great, curvy body, just my type. I went for dinner, returned about 45 minutes later and she was gone. My loss. But I had selected a second choice, a young girl wearing a flower-print dress, and she was still there. I sat next to her, she immediately wanted to "go with me", no small talk, so I knew this was short-time only. After just a few minutes I offered THB 500 for short time, she agreed, off we went.[/QUOTE]Know the bar well. You can usually do quite well in the early evening if you haven't already withered from the girls down the 6.
Damn, I miss Patts.
The below is a latest bar review done by punter poontang in his trip dated december 2012 i am just copying and pasting it for other mongers to take benefit of hope punter doesn't mind me doing this.
[quote]WALKING STREET.
Airport. Go early. Hit 'and miss for me, great early on and some freaky ladies in the jacuzzi, slim pickings (as to be expected) later on on a different night.
Alcatraz. Myeh, cool theme / layout. It's a BIG place, so just not enough ladies to fill it when I was there, though 1 or 2 decent lookers.
Angelwitch. Went there once and didn't return despite it's handy location on Soi Awesome. Warm beer (my first one too!) was unacceptable.
Babydolls. Awesome place. Friendly girls, solid 7's with the occassional 8 depending on your tastes. Great mama too, but the strength is that this place has EVERYTHING in small doses. Hot girls dancing, hands-on fun for your LD's, a naughty corner with all sorts of nasty stuff going on, plus a jacuzzi and big screen with EPL football on in the back. What more could you possibly want?
Baccara. Go early. Like it's Soi Cowboy cousin, rightly considered the "motherload" by many. HUGE selection, though Japanese oriented. Amazingly good, sexy but simple, show when I was there during prime time. WILL return and WILL BF.
Bada Bing. Great lineup, fantastic dancers, just taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] with 1. 5K BF's. I ended up with a bad apple in Rung, but that said I didn't see any other lady get BF'd or really even pushing for LD's, so perhaps this place thrives on bar sales alone with the dancers just providing the eye candy to keep drinkers amused? Not sure, but someone needs to BF #5 and give her a thorough seeing to if it's at all possible.
Beach Club. Great place. Big, plenty of ladies with different tiers. Girls also very friendly for your LD. Enormous potential for BF's even though I didn't.
Fahrenheit. Myeh. Average place, few decent lookers though I had no chance to get near them as I was accosted by the welcome girl who I just couldn't consider for a BF.
Happy. Decent. Small place, but a few decent lookers and the ladies really appeared to enjoy themselves. Would definitely return.
Heaven Above. Dross when I was there, but apparently free food brings out all the Cheap Charlie's getting wankered on draught beer, so.
Iron. Rubbish, don't bother. Especially for that showing in prime time, I'll just pop next door into Airport next time.
Mandarin. OK for a smallish place. Mainly 7's, but a few were VERY hungry looking, definitely could BF if getting the right vibe.
Sapphire. Amazing. Best lineup 5 nights running, hands down. Clean modern place, good seating / viewing, great outfits for the ladies and the occassional show (naked with dripping candle wax) , girls very friendly and well worth the 1K BF imo (especially if you're taking them LT)
Secrets. Rubbish, don't bother for GG. For a sports bar or quick feed, it's OK.
Spanky's. Dross when I was there, but again, apparently free food brings out all the Cheap Charlie's getting wankered on draught beer. Will try another night on next trip before passing a final judgement.
Superbaby / Supergirls. Go early. Great lineup, equal quality to Baccara just with smaller numbers. Though like Baccara, VERY Japanese oriented.
What's Up. Go early. Great lineup, equal quality to Baccara just with smaller numbers. Not sure if this place is also Japanese oriented, it was very quiet when I was there so hard to gauge normal custom. Girls didn't seem too interested though, so drops a few points behind Baccara / Superbaby etc.
Windmill. Fun place, friendly girls, mainly solid 7's with a few 8's. Would've definitely BF'd from here if #101 wasn't on her rags.
X-Zone. Rubbish, don't bother. That whole complex was a pain in the arse. 4 gogo's inside one main entrance, so there are dudes swarming around you like angry bee's trying to coax you into their bar over the other 3. Really annoying.
FURTHER AFIELD.
Champagne. Quality daytime stunner types when I was there around 3pm, some fun to be had for sure.
Kitten Club / Obsessions. Ugh, pathetic, don't bother. Just, DON'T.
Tahitian Queen. Decent daytime fun place, a few real hottie's, even if none of them ended up in my lap and I was forced to take a horror.[/quote]
Hey Fast Eddie 48, yeah, I've had a few girls from the go-go bars in Thailand. A few more in Subic City, PI. And in Peru, Chile and Argentina the Prices are high too. And you know what. Just because you pay more. Doesn't always mean you get more. I like to search for the girls that I have some chemistry with. And as a result I get a lot GFE's. All I can say is; IT WORKS FOR ME! I don't have that "need" for the "hottest" looking girl in a club. If you do have such needs and and you want to part with (what I consider) high dollars. Get on with your bad self. Just to pass on a few things to help make a girl look "hotter": put their knees behind their ears, put a cock in their mouth, turn them face down or turn down / off the lights. Good luck to you too! Eleven hours till I leave for the DR. Boohya!
Can someone recommend on a good hotel in Pattaya (not cheap) that is OK with bringing in girls?
Sensations is currently the flavor of the month among Walking Street bars. While many other enclosed bars with girls dancing are empty as churches on a Saturday night, Sensations is packed, literally standing-room-only many evenings. It has only been open since February, so it's too early to draw any conclusions about its long-term success. But it is definitely the hottest new kid on the block.
I've been to Sensations 15 times in the past three weeks and about five times prior to that. It's always been fairly busy, but word seems to be spreading as time goes on and it's filling up regularly now. Satisfied customers return and new ones join the ranks. Clearly, if Sensations can keep up the current level of traffic through the low season, it will be well on the way to success in an extremely competitive market.
What draws the customers is the outstanding line-up of girls. At least 100 girls dance on any given night in 15-minute "shifts" of 10-12 girls on each of two stages. Most, probably 90, are coyotes, meaning they dance in halter tops or T-shirts and shorts. Interspersed with the shifts of coyotes, girls who dance topless or nude also take the stage, but the emphasis is on coyote-style dancing.
Lady for lady, Bacarra is the only bar in town that comes close to matching Sensations in terms of the quality and quantity of the girls. Between shifts, the dancers mingle with the customers and many have girls sitting with them. The girls, whether agency coyotes or regular dancers, are attentive and easy to contact, but there was no pressure to buy them drinks. If you do buy a girl a drink, she'll sit with you for at least 15 minutes before returning to the stage. There's no gulping of drinks and demands for another as in some bars.
The customers at Sensations appear to be a thirsty crowd and the drinks flow fast and furious. The service girls work hard to make sure everyone gets served in a timely fashion. One of the things I liked most about Sensations is the great party atmosphere. The girls and the customers both seem to enjoy themselves. The girls are happy and laughing and the customers pick up on the good vibes. I didn't notice any dour farang types sitting hunched over a draft beer (the bar doesn't sell draft) with an expression that would scare off a pitbull, nor were there any bored and miserable girls wishing they were somewhere else.
The layout is as good as it is in any bar in Pattaya. The seats are comfortable and easily accessible and you have a good view of at least one of the stages no matter where you sit. The ventilation was fine; it wasn't hot or stuffy despite the large number of warm bodies. One night, I ended up sitting next to a smoker. I thought I was going to have to move, but I didn't get the slightest whiff of cigarette smoke. It was going straight up. The owner must have installed one hell of a powerful air extraction system. The music was loud, but not so loud you couldn't carry on a conversation with a girl. I do wish, though, the DJ would turn down the sound a notch or two.
One factor that bodes well for Sensations is the diversity of the customers. As well as traditional farang from West Europe and the English-speaking countries, I've seen Japanese, Koreans and other Asians, including Indians, plus a fair number of Russian couples. I've also noticed several Africans and a few customers of Middle Eastern origin. I got into a conversation one night with a guy sitting next to me. He was from Uruguay of all places. He thought Sensations compared favorably with any go go bar in Bangkok (he works there for a transnational company).
The presence of the Japanese guys is particularly important, as they spend heavily and like to get a early start. If the bar's customer base is bolstered by a crowd of Japanese between 2100 and 2300, it means it has a good chance of staying busy over the whole evening. About the time farang punters start their go go visits, the sons of the Rising Sun are making their bar-fine decisions and want to head back to their hotels. The effect is particularly noticeable in bars like Bacarra and Super Baby, but you can notice it in Sensations as well.
I know some of you won't be enthralled by the price of drinks in Sensations (135B for SML and 150B for lady drinks) and many would balk at the agency coyote concept and 1, 500B bar fines (before midnight, it's 1, 000 after). But that doesn't seem to deter the customers who fill it every evening. Plenty of girls get bar fined every night, especially after midnight. That's the purpose of a high bar fine: to deter customers from taking girls away from the club too early in the evening. I asked the girl I know best there. She is kind of the alpha female among the agency coyote dancers. If all the girls "go" with customers. She said they do, but some, including herself, are selective about their customers.
But it is clear: a guy who is used to sitting with a single glass of discount draft for 90 minutes, then telling a girl he wants to meet her after the club closes but won't pay more than 1, 000 baht, isn't going to have much success in Sensations. To be brutally honest. Money talks, bullshit walks. If your concept of a smart punter is spending little on drinks, swerving the bar fine and low balling the girl, then there are other go go bars which will suit you better. That's the beauty of Pattaya. Something for everyone, no matter what his style or budget.
But if you don't mind paying premium prices for a premium experience, then Sensations is an excellent option and a very positive addition to the Pattaya scene.
Evil
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1425742]Sensations is currently the flavor of the month among Walking Street bars. While many other enclosed bars with girls dancing are empty as churches on a Saturday night, Sensations is packed, literally standing-room-only many evenings. It has only been open since February, so it's too early to draw any conclusions about its long-term success. But it is definitely the hottest new kid on the block.
I've been to Sensations 15 times in the past three weeks and about five times prior to that. It's always been fairly busy, but word seems to be spreading as time goes on and it's filling up regularly now. Satisfied customers return and new ones join the ranks. Clearly, if Sensations can keep up the current level of traffic through the low season, it will be well on the way to success in an extremely competitive market.
What draws the customers is the outstanding line-up of girls. At least 100 girls dance on any given night in 15-minute "shifts" of 10-12 girls on each of two stages. Most, probably 90, are coyotes, meaning they dance in halter tops or T-shirts and shorts. Interspersed with the shifts of coyotes, girls who dance topless or nude also take the stage, but the emphasis is on coyote-style dancing.
Lady for lady, Bacarra is the only bar in town that comes close to matching Sensations in terms of the quality and quantity of the girls. Between shifts, the dancers mingle with the customers and many have girls sitting with them. The girls, whether agency coyotes or regular dancers, are attentive and easy to contact, but there was no pressure to buy them drinks. If you do buy a girl a drink, she'll sit with you for at least 15 minutes before returning to the stage. There's no gulping of drinks and demands for another as in some bars.
The customers at Sensations appear to be a thirsty crowd and the drinks flow fast and furious. The service girls work hard to make sure everyone gets served in a timely fashion. One of the things I liked most about Sensations is the great party atmosphere. The girls and the customers both seem to enjoy themselves. The girls are happy and laughing and the customers pick up on the good vibes. I didn't notice any dour farang types sitting hunched over a draft beer (the bar doesn't sell draft) with an expression that would scare off a pitbull, nor were there any bored and miserable girls wishing they were somewhere else.
The layout is as good as it is in any bar in Pattaya. The seats are comfortable and easily accessible and you have a good view of at least one of the stages no matter where you sit. The ventilation was fine; it wasn't hot or stuffy despite the large number of warm bodies. One night, I ended up sitting next to a smoker. I thought I was going to have to move, but I didn't get the slightest whiff of cigarette smoke. It was going straight up. The owner must have installed one hell of a powerful air extraction system. The music was loud, but not so loud you couldn't carry on a conversation with a girl. I do wish, though, the DJ would turn down the sound a notch or two.
One factor that bodes well for Sensations is the diversity of the customers. As well as traditional farang from West Europe and the English-speaking countries, I've seen Japanese, Koreans and other Asians, including Indians, plus a fair number of Russian couples. I've also noticed several Africans and a few customers of Middle Eastern origin. I got into a conversation one night with a guy sitting next to me. He was from Uruguay of all places. He thought Sensations compared favorably with any go go bar in Bangkok (he works there for a transnational company).
The presence of the Japanese guys is particularly important, as they spend heavily and like to get a early start. If the bar's customer base is bolstered by a crowd of Japanese between 2100 and 2300, it means it has a good chance of staying busy over the whole evening. About the time farang punters start their go go visits, the sons of the Rising Sun are making their bar-fine decisions and want to head back to their hotels. The effect is particularly noticeable in bars like Bacarra and Super Baby, but you can notice it in Sensations as well.
I know some of you won't be enthralled by the price of drinks in Sensations (135B for SML and 150B for lady drinks) and many would balk at the agency coyote concept and 1, 500B bar fines (before midnight, it's 1, 000 after). But that doesn't seem to deter the customers who fill it every evening. Plenty of girls get bar fined every night, especially after midnight. That's the purpose of a high bar fine: to deter customers from taking girls away from the club too early in the evening. I asked the girl I know best there. She is kind of the alpha female among the agency coyote dancers. If all the girls "go" with customers. She said they do, but some, including herself, are selective about their customers.
But it is clear: a guy who is used to sitting with a single glass of discount draft for 90 minutes, then telling a girl he wants to meet her after the club closes but won't pay more than 1, 000 baht, isn't going to have much success in Sensations. To be brutally honest. Money talks, bullshit walks. If your concept of a smart punter is spending little on drinks, swerving the bar fine and low balling the girl, then there are other go go bars which will suit you better. That's the beauty of Pattaya. Something for everyone, no matter what his style or budget.
But if you don't mind paying premium prices for a premium experience, then Sensations is an excellent option and a very positive addition to the Pattaya scene.
Evil[/QUOTE]Yes, I second that, I found out on my own when I was there last week, Sensation is the only place I would go in Walking Street. One problem for me was that I was not able to get the girl I like to sit with me. I started by asking the waitress to buy a lady drink for a gilr I like, she did come sit down for 5 sec, and then left to another customer's table, since apparently I was not the only one asking for her. So it seems that it is not as simple as you had painted the picture there. Maybe because I was asian guy and she went over to a white guy?
OS
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel;1425742]Sensations is currently the flavor of the month among Walking Street bars. Evil[/QUOTE]Excellent report as usual, Evil.
It motivated me to check the place out last night. I arrived at about 10pm and found that it was just about everything you said it was; crowded; a mix of punter types; several cute girls; expensive drinks; 1500 baht bar fines and a lively atmosphere.
I got several smiles and come hither looks from girls I liked but didn't bite because I'm not about to pay a 1500 baht bar fine. 2000 or maybe much more for her fee, plus at least 350 for a st hotel; all that for a 30 min one pop experience from an unknown quantity. I could do much better than that with a 2 hour session in a nice Bangkok massage parlor for far less cash.
The only other problem with Sensations is that, as you said. 95% of the girls were in coyote outfits (halter tops and unrevealing shorts). I saw only 3 out of perhaps 100 girls in G-strings and bikini tops, and there was absolutely zero nudity. They kept those tops on. I was there at least an hour with all those girls and never saw a single bare breast and certainly no naked pussy in sight. There were no shows, no touching, no hanky panky at all. The place failed to ooze of sex but the girls did seem friendly and having a good time.
Oh, well, you warned me.
It is true there are far more girls there then at other bars and they are not fat either.
I just couldn't find room in there to sit down, the girls take up half the space already.
As always, good job Evil. I was under the impression that coyote girls, agency or not, seldom go to customers' hotels. They are only there to dance, sell drinks, and converse wih customers. No sex. Is that correct?
[QUOTE=Old South; 1425823]Maybe because I was asian guy and she went over to a white guy?
OS[/QUOTE]I don't think it has anything to do with race or ethnic background. The girls generally like Asian customers a lot because they are almost always polite, well-behaved and accustomed to buying copious amounts of lady drinks. What happened to you may be down to special circumstances.
In fact, your post gave me a bit of a guilty conscience. Did you encounter the girl who drank-and-ran on the night of May 12th, around 11 pm? The girl I was sitting with had a drink bought for her by an Asian customer. She left me for a few minutes to go sit with him. She was in the middle of discussion with me and wanted to finish the story. Since I've known her a long time before Sensations even opened, I told her she shouldn't slight her other customers. She was very eager to talk to me that night due to specific reasons. That was foremost in her mind at the time.
My apologies if it was you!
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1425996]Excellent report as usual, Evil.
The only other problem with Sensations is that, as you said. 95% of the girls were in coyote outfits (halter tops and unrevealing shorts). I saw only 3 out of perhaps 100 girls in G-strings and bikini tops, and there was absolutely zero nudity. They kept those tops on. I was there at least an hour with all those girls and never saw a single bare breast and certainly no naked pussy in sight. There were no shows, no touching, no hanky panky at all. The place failed to ooze of sex but the girls did seem friendly and having a good time.
Oh, well, you warned me.[/QUOTE]I was there last night as well, but later, around midnight. At that time, both stages were full of girls dancing in bikinis or less. I can only guess why, but it seems Sensations gets racier as the evening progresses. You can't count on this happening, but I have seen some of the coyotes get very frisky, especially when sitting with customers.
[QUOTE=Allover;1426029]I was under the impression that coyote girls, agency or not, seldom go to customers' hotels. They are only there to dance, sell drinks, and converse wih customers. No sex. Is that correct?[/QUOTE]It's true that their agency salaries (usually 1000B / night) or bar salaries (anywhere between 700-900B / night) and commission from lady drinks allows coyotes to be selective about their customers. However, almost all will go with customers under the right circumstances, whether it's economic necessity (they need extra money) ; they like the customer and see him as a good long-term prospect; or they simply want to get out of the bar.
Five customers who give her 3, 000B put as much money in her pocket as 10 customers who pay 1, 500B, with "less wear and tear," in the words of the famous Chicago madam Minna Everleigh. It is true that a lot of girls nowadays. And not just coyote dancers. Are less likely to stay "long-term," I. E, overnight, but many will do so assuming the customer has a comfortable hotel and doesn't snore horrifically.
Evil
I have a pregnancy fetish. Is there any place where pregnant girls can be found? Bar, street worker, red light area?
[QUOTE=BushWhack;1424886]I sat at the Scandinavian Bar on Beach Road around 6 pm, this bar is near the entrance to the Marriott, and watched the girls filter in on the sidewalk, beach side.[/QUOTE]Which bar is this? Is it Swensen's just above the Marriott entrance or is it the one on soi 11?
Thanks for the posts BTW.
The Scandinavia Bar is between Soi 13 and Soi Yamato.
[QUOTE=BambiJacobson; 1426306]Which bar is this? Is it Swensen's just above the Marriott entrance or is it the one on soi 11?
Thanks for the posts BTW.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dewdrops;1426183]I have a pregnancy fetish. Is there any place where pregnant girls can be found? Bar, street worker, red light area?[/QUOTE]Probably on the beach promenade would be the best place to look for this. I have seen some there from time to time over the years, though only quite rarely. The likelihood to find it on any given trip will be very low.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1414988]There have been many times that I have used PS and have seen an older farang sitting in the lobby drinking beer and I have always wondered why. Care to explain?[/QUOTE]Greatest show on earth, Mr Enternational.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1426635]Probably on the beach promenade would be the best place to look for this. I have seen some there from time to time over the years, though only quite rarely. The likelihood to find it on any given trip will be very low.[/QUOTE]To Dewdrops:
- Back in April 2013 one of the "P. Nut" bargirls was pregnant, don't know if she goes with customers in her pregnant condition. P. Nut is in the Sirens complex, which is next to the Pattaya Beer Garden.
- Opebo's correct that BR occasionally has a pregnant FL. I would suggest simply asking any WG (bargirl, FL, mamasan) if they know of a preggo WG. Chances are they know someone who's pregnant. Good luck.
[QUOTE=Jgm005;1426411]The Scandinavia Bar is between Soi 13 and Soi Yamato.[/QUOTE]Ok, thanks. I remembered it as if the Pizzahut was between those two streets. Will visit the bar when I go in September.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1426104]I don't think it has anything to do with race or ethnic background. The girls generally like Asian customers a lot because they are almost always polite, well-behaved and accustomed to buying copious amounts of lady drinks. What happened to you may be down to special circumstances.
In fact, your post gave me a bit of a guilty conscience. Did you encounter the girl who drank-and-ran on the night of May 12th, around 11 pm? The girl I was sitting with had a drink bought for her by an Asian customer. She left me for a few minutes to go sit with him. She was in the middle of discussion with me and wanted to finish the story. Since I've known her a long time before Sensations even opened, I told her she shouldn't slight her other customers. She was very eager to talk to me that night due to specific reasons. That was foremost in her mind at the time.
My apologies if it was you!
Evil[/QUOTE]Yes, that was exactly the time I went and had this disappointing experience and totally turned off by Sensation girls as they appear to be in higher demand then other places and thus not needing my big tips as much. I ended up spending the rest of the evening in that soapy tub place where a totally naked girl let me touch her anywhere for just buying her a lady drink.
OS
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1426735]You wrote such a good write up. The best I ever seen. But 1 girls brushes you off and you write all of them off. A bit sensitive, don't you think. In fact she did you a favor. At least you didn't spend 100$ and then find out you not a prriority.
All hookers are not the same same![/QUOTE]Report was written by Evil Penivel, who wrote great reports as you said. Yes, I was a little sensitive, as I have never been to go-go bars in my life and I usually only go for KTVs in China. In KTV, I usually sit 4 to 5 girls and usually at least two of them will try very hard to get MY attention the whole evenning, and I decide at the end who deserves it, and most of the time, I cannot decide and ended up taking two very hot girls home.
I now look at go-go bar as a place to just have some drinks and some fun with girls, not a place to take a girl back to the hotel, as for the later, KTV is till a far better experience.
OS
[QUOTE=Old South;1427021]I now look at go-go bar as a place to just have some drinks and some fun with girls, not a place to take a girl back to the hotel, as for the later, KTV is till a far better experience.[/QUOTE]First time I have heard that. I don't like gogo bars but I would damn sure rate them much better than sitting in a room spending money on chicks to watch them sing.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1427026]First time I have heard that. I don't like gogo bars but I would damn sure rate them much better than sitting in a room spending money on chicks to watch them sing.[/QUOTE]In my KTV room, I sing with them, love songs that take a man and a woman to sing together, and the girls take turns. Also, I play all kinds of group games with them, and the lossing girl can choose to drink or to slow dance with me, and very often she will choose the later. At least in China, KTV is much more popular and you must be able to speak Chinese to enjoy it. Some KTV have 30 min of total darkness and everybody (one guy, me, and all the girls) become totally naked to dance to really load music and the girls who are willing to let me finger and totally wet are usually the finalist to go home with me.
OS
[QUOTE=Old South;1427028]In my KTV room, I sing with them, love songs that take a man and a woman to sing together, and the girls take turns. Also, I play all kinds of group games with them, and the lossing girl can choose to drink or to slow dance with me, and very often she will choose the later. At least in China, KTV is much more popular and you must be able to speak Chinese to enjoy it. Some KTV have 30 min of total darkness and everybody (one guy, me, and all the girls) become totally naked to dance to really load music and the girls who are willing to let me finger and totally wet are usually the finalist to go home with me.OS[/QUOTE]Chinese KTV have nothing to do with thai KTV, it is my understanding so people not used to one will not much understand the other.
I got great time in malaysian KTV, much similar to chiense, even better, with nearly naked girls most of the time
Is there a gym in Pattaya (stupid question, of course there is) preferably one in the LK Metro area, if so what are the rates.
Thanks,
Chris
[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1427211]Is there a gym in Pattaya (stupid question, of course there is) preferably one in the LK Metro area, if so what are the rates.
Thanks,
Chris[/QUOTE]The closest gym to LK Metro is Tony's on Soi Buakhow. About 1 block south of LK on the west side of the street. But be forewarned. It's NOT air conditioned. Only about 80 or 90 THB to use it. But it's HOT. Tony's also has a few other gyms around town, but I always find them to be disappointing. Broken down old equipment, dirty inside, and even the ones that are air conditioned are unreasonably hot inside, presumably to keep his electricity bills low. I'd love to find a modern gym in the area with good equipment and good air conditioning? Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.
[url]http://tonydisco.com/fitness/welcome.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1427211]Is there a gym in Pattaya (stupid question, of course there is) preferably one in the LK Metro area, if so what are the rates.
Thanks,
Chris[/QUOTE]The best gym in town is attached to the Marriott hotel. It is actually a private high end gyma, but if you stay at the hotel it is free.
Also, I was told that they have a daily fee. I don't know what it is but I know for sure it is much better than Tony's.
[QUOTE=David 2;1427725]I'd love to find a modern gym in the area with good equipment and good air conditioning? Anyone have any ideas?[/QUOTE]California Wow got ran out of town, but not before ripping plenty of folks off. I suggest going to the Marriott or Hilton and inquiring about using theirs. Aya Boutique also has a good one.
[url]http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/597552-ailing-california-wow-club-facing-criminal-charges/[/url]
[QUOTE=David 2; 1427725]The closest gym to LK Metro is Tony's on Soi Buakhow. About 1 block south of LK on the west side of the street. But be forewarned. It's NOT air conditioned. Only about 80 or 90 THB to use it. But it's HOT. Tony's also has a few other gyms around town, but I always find them to be disappointing. Broken down old equipment, dirty inside, and even the ones that are air conditioned are unreasonably hot inside, presumably to keep his electricity bills low. I'd love to find a modern gym in the area with good equipment and good air conditioning? Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.
[url]http://tonydisco.com/fitness/welcome.html[/url][/QUOTE]The best time to use that gym is early morning but even then its still dirty. Take some sani-wipes and a towel with you. They turn the machines and fans off as soon as you are done with them. That seem to be the main function of the attendant other than checking IDs, they charge 1790B per month. There are several smaller gyms around town, one on Soi Buakhow to the north of LK but it is a small open air type gym so you can inhale the motorist fumes as they pass by similar to the other one Tony has on 3d Road / Pattaya Tai. There's another small gym by Big C in South Pattaya with very limited equipment, they charge 400b per month and have AC but rarely turn it on.
Hi,
May I request to suggest good GF friendly hotel / resort near beach area where they don't keep checking ids. Last year stayed in Seame Spring in Soi 10. Not sure if there is any better alternatives and better location.
Planning to visit in June 3rd week.
Also if any new bars to try out, it would be great. My fav has been XZone.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1427751]The best time to use that gym is early morning but even then its still dirty. Take some sani-wipes and a towel with you. They turn the machines and fans off as soon as you are done with them. That seem to be the main function of the attendant other than checking IDs, they charge 1790B per month. There are several smaller gyms around town, one on Soi Buakhow to the north of LK but it is a small open air type gym so you can inhale the motorist fumes as they pass by similar to the other one Tony has on 3d Road / Pattaya Tai. There's another small gym by Big C in South Pattaya with very limited equipment, they charge 400b per month and have AC but rarely turn it on.[/QUOTE]There is another Tony's on Walking Street (mixed in with his Club Abyzz) which is a very odd mix. You walk through Club Abyzz and there is a fitness club behind it and above it. They do have quite a few machines, and it is air conditioned, but like his other clubs the machines are in various states of disrepair, and they keep the temperature just one degree above boiling. It's a much better option than the one on Soi Buakhow, though, and I use it 3 times a week when I'm in LOS. I can't remember the exact price, (I think it's about 150 THB per single use) but it's on the website. I love hot weather: I live in the middle of the Mojave desert not too far from Death Valley, the hottest place on the planet, but nothing compares to the temperature at Tony's.
[QUOTE=NomadicMong; 1428109]Hi,
May I request to suggest good GF friendly hotel / resort near beach area where they don't keep checking ids. Last year stayed in Seame Spring in Soi 10. Not sure if there is any better alternatives and better location.
Planning to visit in June 3rd week.
Also if any new bars to try out, it would be great. My fav has been XZone.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I'm curious why you don't want the hotel to check the I. D. Cards of the girls you bring back I know it is an inconvenience, but I actually like it. Specifically, I like it when the front desk calls to ask if it is okay to return it to the girl.
[QUOTE=RBDave;1428215]I'm curious why you don't want the hotel to check the I. D. Cards of the girls you bring back I know it is an inconvenience, but I actually like it. Specifically, I like it when the front desk calls to ask if it is okay to return it to the girl.[/QUOTE]Sometimes you find a real stunner, only to get back to the hotel and she ha no I'd with her,
If it is for your benefit, then it should be optional, and not mandatory that the hotel keep the card
I woke up at 430 am and decided to go down to Beach Road. There were plenty still out. Girl wanted 500. I told her 400 because I have to pay for the room. We got on my bike and went to the st hotel I use on 2nd Road. BBBJ COP. Stayed about an hour then I took her to her room on Soi Buakhow. Breakfast on Soi Diana at Robin's Nest before I go home and get ready to go to the gym.
[quote=rbdave;1428215]i'm curious why you don't want the hotel to check the i. d. cards of the girls you bring back i know it is an inconvenience, but i actually like it. specifically, i like it when the front desk calls to ask if it is okay to return it to the girl.[/quote]even though for monger like me it protects ****. but for the fresh farm girls it is a new process and get tensed and don't want to start the session with that experience. for the pros there, it is not an issue. if possible, i like to avoid that.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1; 1428221]Sometimes you find a real stunner, only to get back to the hotel and she ha no I'd with her,
If it is for your benefit, then it should be optional, and not mandatory that the hotel keep the card[/QUOTE]Yes, that's a fair point. If the hotel does not charge a fee, then there is no reason they have to have an I. D.
But if they charge a fee, then maybe the keep it as proof. Then again, for LT, they may be required to have it on file. When I check in with my wife, they ask for both of our passports, not just mine.
I've been in hotels where they collected the I. D. And have shook my head "no" to the guy at the desk as he was pulling out the joiner registration book. He understood that I didn't want her to show her I. D. And I just continued to the elevator.
Leaving for Thailand Sunday morning, will be in Bangkok Monday night, staying in Nana until Friday the 7th then heading to Pattaya, will be staying on LK Metro until the 20th. If any one else is going to be in country at that time send me a PM and we can chase some Thai pussy together.
Chris
[quote=bumholes1; 1428221]sometimes you find a real stunner, only to get back to the hotel and she ha no i'd with her,
if it is for your benefit, then it should be optional, and not mandatory that the hotel keep the card[/quote]having sex with ****d ladies is against the law in thailand. the hotel asks for i. d. for everyone's protection. if a lady does not have i. d. i have no problem passing on her. i know a no questions asked short stay hotel is an option, but i am not interested in taking that chance.
imo it is a system which benefits all. i am not a ****, and do not want to see the inside of a thai jail.
sunlover
[quote=sunlover2; 1428384]having sex with ****d ladies is against the law in thailand. the hotel asks for i. d. for everyone's protection. if a lady does not have i. d. i have no problem passing on her. i know a no questions asked short stay hotel is an option, but i am not interested in taking that chance.
imo it is a system which benefits all. i am not a ****, and do not want to see the inside of a thai jail.
sunlover[/quote]very well said sunlover2! the thai prison system is not one you want to end up in. follow the sound advice of sunlover2. he know's what he's talking about and you know it makes sense.
[quote=sunlover2; 1428384]having sex with ****d ladies is against the law in thailand. the hotel asks for i. d. for everyone's protection. if a lady does not have i. d. i have no problem passing on her. i know a no questions asked short stay hotel is an option, but i am not interested in taking that chance.
imo it is a system which benefits all. i am not a ****, and do not want to see the inside of a thai jail.
sunlover[/quote]+1.
if they didn't ask for and check their i. d., i wouldn't stay there. i'm not sure if an apartment or condo rental has someone around to check their i. d., as i have not rented one yet in thailand, but if i do rent one and they don't have any one available to check, i would be sure there was no doubt about the lady's age or i would pass on her.
[QUOTE=Hobbyist2; 1428401]+1.
If they didn't ask for and check their I. D, I wouldn't stay there. I'm not sure if an Apartment or Condo rental has someone around to check their I. D, as I have not rented one yet in Thailand, but if I do rent one and they don't have any one available to check, I would be sure there was no doubt about the lady's age or I would pass on her.[/QUOTE]Why would a rental place pay to have someone check IDs? Do you have someone checking IDs at your house, apartment, or condo? Take some personal responsibility and don't rely on others to do what you can easily do yourself.
I'm over at your spot Sin Bin having a couple.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1428455]I'm over at your spot Sin Bin having a couple.[/QUOTE]It would appear so!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1428426]Why would a rental place pay to have someone check IDs? Do you have someone checking IDs at your house, apartment, or condo? Take some personal responsibility and don't rely on others to do what you can easily do yourself.[/QUOTE]Maybe you should reread my post. I didn't ask a question as to whether they do or not. I just made a statement that in the event that they don't, I will figure it out or when in doubt, I will pass. That is taking the responsibility for myself. BTW, I have rented an apartment in another country where they did have a security guard who did check and keep the lady's I'd.
mr. e & mr. h.
this i'd issue and **** girls. maybe we should be taking some responsibility ourselves. we should know when we are talking to **** girls and be wary of entrapment. if we are in our condos. if we are on vacation, staying in a hotel and new to and an area. we need to be careful. we don't know the local rules. this is where a hotel, that demands girls i'd cards, is very important. we should understand that this hotel is protecting our best interests. any hotel, turning a blind eye to **** girls, should be avoided at all costs. again the ugly entrapment word could become a reality. the **** girl could be working for the bib. as soon as you are naked they might come bursting in the door, with a tv crew, and you become the next star in the 'big trouble in thailand' documentary. plus you will need big money to get out of trouble.
for mr. e. it sounds like he lives in pattaya. understands the rules and can handle himself. so he can do his thing. we don't know if that is the case for mr. h. it sounds like he needs the safety of the security guard. just need to make sure he stays awake. the sg and not mr. h.
tip on rules in pattaya.
rule number 1. there are no rules.
For what it's worth, I don't think the hotels are checking I. D. Of the girls for age. I don't think they do it to protect their customers either. I think they do it for their own self interest.
Too many times guys have brought girls to their room, then the next day the guy claims the housekeeper has stolen some money. The hotel simply points out the fact that the guy had a guest in the room and says, she (or he) must have taken the money.
I can imagine a scenario where a guy brings a girl back then later she causes trouble and smashes up the room. In this case, I don't think the hotel will give back the I. D, until after it's been determined who pays for the damage.
When the desk has called the room to verify that everything is "OK", I've often wondered what they would do if I simply didn't answer the phone. Would they send someone up to make sure I wasn't passed out from drugs?
[QUOTE=RBDave;1428842]For what it's worth, I don't think the hotels are checking I. D. Of the girls for age. I don't think they do it to protect their customers either. I think they do it for their own self interest. When the desk has called the room to verify that everything is "OK", I've often wondered what they would do if I simply didn't answer the phone. Would they send someone up to make sure I wasn't passed out from drugs?[/QUOTE]You are exactly right Dave. The hotels could give a shit about the age. If that was the case they would look at the card and give it right back. They care about who to place blame on if their shit is broken up and that you have not been killed in their room. That is why they take the card and file it, nine times out of ten without looking at it. Usually when a girl leaves I go right and take a shower, so whenever I am in a country that does the call thing I usually forget they are going to call and don't answer the phone. Most of the times the girl has come back up to tell me to answer the phone because they will not let her leave until I tell them everything is okay. In one hotel (I forget which country and city) every time I brought a girl in they had forms to fill out and we both had to sign them along with taking the girl's ID.
Last year, after a girl I had brought home decided to cause some big trouble in the middle of the night, the manager decided to start a policy that guests who come at night must sign in and leave their ID with the security guy. That lasted all of ONE day. For one, it created extra work for the security guy. For two, this building is five stories and is made up of mostly young Thai people or farang males who live with their Thai girlfriend. So me and my cousin were probably the only ones who had unfamiliar women in and out on a regular basis.
[quote=bro2012;1428664]this i'd issue and **** girls. maybe we should be taking some responsibility ourselves. we should know when we are talking to **** girls and be wary of entrapment.[/quote]this is asia. you can pretty much tell if a girl is ****, unlike back in the states where they have been raised on steroid-laced food. another way to avoid **** girls is to stop trying to pick women who appear borderline and instead pick a real woman. if you are a guy who was not getting any in high school then it is what it is. let that shit go and move on. there is no sense trying to live now what you missed out on then. i'm a grown man looking for some full grown pussy. i'll leave the kittens to the youngsters.
[quote=bro2012; 1428664]tip on rules in pattaya.
rule number 1. there are no rules.[/quote]if there were rules then they would change as soon as you learned them.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1428946]If there were rules then they would change as soon as you learned them.[/QUOTE]Just like Gibb's 51 rules, they are not written down. :)
Slim
[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1428309]Leaving for Thailand Sunday morning, will be in Bangkok Monday night, staying in Nana until Friday the 7th then heading to Pattaya, will be staying on LK Metro until the 20th. If any one else is going to be in country at that time send me a PM and we can chase some Thai pussy together.
Chris[/QUOTE]Sounds good Chris I'll be in Pat on the 12th, I wish I could PM you but my credit card didn't work to get my membership. Hit Soi 6 Saigon Girls afternoon I'll leave my number at the bar.
Goober
[QUOTE=GooberMonger; 1429117]Sounds good Chris I'll be in Pat on the 12th, I wish I could PM you but my credit card didn't work to get my membership. Hit Soi 6 Saigon Girls afternoon I'll leave my number at the bar.
Goober[/QUOTE]Cool about to turn in I have an early morning flight tomorrow. I will hit Saigon girls on the 12th and give them my board name. I'm staying on Lk Metro.
See you in Pattaya.
Chris
I came out of my two-hour massage/nap last night at 12:20 and immediately it began to pour down rain. I took my poncho out and jumped on my bike and headed home. It rained until 2am. I went down to Walking Street and headed for Lucifer Disco where I met a chick who came back home with me at 3am. Fucked like rabbits ending with CIM. She woke me up this morning at 10:30 with BBBJ, which turned into anal and vibrator in the front. At noon I told her it was time to go. We got dressed. As I changed my money from last night's pants to my present shorts I asked her how much. She said 1000. I jokingly said 1000? Damn that is expensive. She said how much you give? I said 500. She said okay and I handed her a 500 baht bill.
She was quite playful from that point. She had me take her home on 2nd Road Soi 17. Before, she had told me that she works at a telecom place. When we pulled up to her place her friend caught her red handed getting off my bike with her club clothes on. She pointed to where her friend was in front of a beauty salon and admitted that is where she really works. Her friend came over and we all laughed together since she had been busted. She made me park my bike and go up to her room. Once again she asked me to help her take her dress off (zipper in the back.) I stayed 5 minutes and told her I had to go. We exchanged numbers and I was out of there.
*Prior to this the least I have had to give a girl for all night was 700 baht to a girl I had met on Walking Street.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1429407].I went down to Walking Street and headed for Lucifer Disco where I met a chick who came back home with me at 3am. Fucked like rabbits ending with CIM. She woke me up this morning at 10:30 with BBBJ, which turned into anal and vibrator in the front. At noon I told her it was time to go. We got dressed. As I changed my money from last night's pants to my present shorts I asked her how much. She said 1000. I jokingly said 1000? Damn that is expensive. She said how much you give? I said 500. She said okay and I handed her a 500 baht bill.[/QUOTE]Nice. That keeps prices in perspective for all the guys. All I can say, she must have thought "You hansum man", LOL.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1429407]I came out of my two-hour massage / nap last night at 12:20 and immediately it began to pour down rain. I took my poncho out and jumped on my bike and headed home. It rained until 2am. I went down to Walking Street and headed for Lucifer Disco where I met a chick who came back home with me at 3am. Fucked like rabbits ending with CIM. She woke me up this morning at 10:30 with BBBJ, which turned into anal and vibrator in the front. At noon I told her it was time to go. We got dressed. As I changed my money from last night's pants to my present shorts I asked her how much. She said 1000. I jokingly said 1000? Damn that is expensive. She said how much you give? I said 500. She said okay and I handed her a 500 baht bill.
She was quite playful from that point. She had me take her home on 2nd Road Soi 17. Before, she had told me that she works at a telecom place. When we pulled up to her place her friend caught her red handed getting off my bike with her club clothes on. She pointed to where her friend was in front of a beauty salon and admitted that is where she really works. Her friend came over and we all laughed together since she had been busted. She made me park my bike and go up to her room. Once again she asked me to help her take her dress off (zipper in the back.) I stayed 5 minutes and told her I had to go. We exchanged numbers and I was out of there.
*Prior to this the least I have had to give a girl for all night was 700 baht to a girl I had met on Walking Street.[/QUOTE]Don't get me wrong mister but I guess 1k for a LT I's a fair price.
Try to bargain when you had a great time it's just unfair.
I wouldn't be proud about that. IMHO
[QUOTE=Marteau; 1429465]Don't get me wrong mister but I guess 1k for a LT I's a fair price.
Try to bargain when you had a great time it's just unfair.
I wouldn't be proud about that. IMHO[/QUOTE]I have only paid more than 1000 LT once. Evidently the girl from last night felt that 500 was fair because she invited me up to her room and wants to come back again. Many times I, as well as friends of mine, have met chicks in the disco who didn't even want money. My cousin was just saying that he would pick girls up there and he would pay one night and get the next night free. You just never know.
[QUOTE=GooberMonger; 1429117]Sounds good Chris I'll be in Pat on the 12th, I wish I could PM you but my credit card didn't work to get my membership. Hit Soi 6 Saigon Girls afternoon I'll leave my number at the bar.
Goober[/QUOTE]Hey mate will reach Pattaya on 7th evening around 6pm.
[QUOTE=Marteau; 1429465]Don't get me wrong mister but I guess 1k for a LT I's a fair price.
Try to bargain when you had a great time it's just unfair.
I wouldn't be proud about that. IMHO[/QUOTE]In most second- and third-world countries (for lack of a better term, as I'm not sure if TH is 2nd world) , once you get away from the incessant grind of the go-go and hooker bars, things change. Especially if you can speak the local language. Prices tend to drop dramatically. Money often takes on a sort of "secondary" importance if the girl's primary source of income isn't from working in a bar.
There is nothing wrong with a bit of friendly dickering. If she had thought herself ill used by Mr. E's counter offer she would have made it known immediately. Thai girls are funny that way. LOL
[quote=rbdave; 1428842]for what it's worth, i don't think the hotels are checking i. d. of the girls for age. i don't think they do it to protect their customers either. i think they do it for their own self interest.
too many times guys have brought girls to their room, then the next day the guy claims the housekeeper has stolen some money. the hotel simply points out the fact that the guy had a guest in the room and says, she (or he) must have taken the money.
i can imagine a scenario where a guy brings a girl back then later she causes trouble and smashes up the room. in this case, i don't think the hotel will give back the i. d, until after it's been determined who pays for the damage.
when the desk has called the room to verify that everything is "ok", i've often wondered what they would do if i simply didn't answer the phone. would they send someone up to make sure i wasn't passed out from drugs?[/quote]i think most if not all ****d girls avoid hotels because they don't have a proper i'd to give. they try to take to to a short time hotel, where i'd is not asked. at least in bkk in gogo bars it seems to work this way so if the girl does not "have" i'd and is looking young and not coming to your hotel she in ****. there are many of them in the bars usually so beware.
the hotel i have stayed in pattaya takes girls' ids at night but never calls to the rooms to check if everything is ok. i don't know if this system is enough or not.
[QUOTE=Marteau; 1429465]Don't get me wrong mister but I guess 1k for a LT I's a fair price.
Try to bargain when you had a great time it's just unfair.
I wouldn't be proud about that. IMHO[/QUOTE]Mr. E way to go mate, it's low season, Marteau, I'm a hell of a lot prouder of someone that gets a good bang for his buck, than some wankers that'll give a girl 3000 baht plus for the evening.
Keeps the price down for us other local Mongers. I did notice Mr. E you never gave us much info on her looks or age, now if she was a 50 year old sea hag she should have paid you. LOL.
See ya in Pat on the 12th.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;1429585]The hotel I have stayed in Pattaya takes girls' IDs at night but never calls to the rooms to check if everything is ok. I don't know if this system is enough or not.[/QUOTE]If you want a call up: give security a small tip and request they call the room when she leaves. And they will.
SunLover
[QUOTE=David 2; 1427725]The closest gym to LK Metro is Tony's on Soi Buakhow. About 1 block south of LK on the west side of the street. But be forewarned. It's NOT air conditioned. Only about 80 or 90 THB to use it. But it's HOT. Tony's also has a few other gyms around town, but I always find them to be disappointing. Broken down old equipment, dirty inside, and even the ones that are air conditioned are unreasonably hot inside, presumably to keep his electricity bills low. I'd love to find a modern gym in the area with good equipment and good air conditioning? Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.
[url]http://tonydisco.com/fitness/welcome.html[/url][/QUOTE]The fairtex has a good gym, and has a nice sauna to finish your session. Other than that tonys gym on 3rd Road past the traffic lights is a pretty good gym, contrary to whats been said here, the cardio room is very good, and the weights are excellent.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1429407]I came out of my two-hour massage/nap last night at 12:20 and immediately it began to pour down rain.*Prior to this the least I have had to give a girl for all night was 700 baht to a girl I had met on Walking Street.[/QUOTE]Mr. E are still aroud Patts? I will there for a short one 14/15/16. I am not sure if you remember me, but we met last time along with AmexSPG and had been to a few go-go's. Babydolls in particular.
If you are around that time, lets meet for a beer. Anyone else in Patts that time may join too!
Cheers!
You are right Sir.
Looking forward to see more reports of you.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1429869]Some thing s you just don't want to know. Looks, young age not important to those who seem to go cheap. LOL.[/QUOTE]
This diary continues from the Bangkok, Siem Reap, Phnom Penh and Sihanoukville threads.
DAY 16.
The journey from Sihanoukville back to Thailand was long and tiring. I woke up slightly hungover after a 7am alarm call and it took five bone-shaking hours to reach the Cambodian border town of Ko Kong by bus. The scenery was pleasant as we approached the border. The border-crossing took an hour because the queues at immigration and passport control were long and disorganised. Once in Thailand I took a minibus up the coast from Hat Lek to Trat (90 minutes) and a then a separate bus to Pattaya (three hours). It was 7. 30pm by the time I was dropped off at Pattaya's bus station.
I asked a motorbike driver to take me to Lek Hotel. It's located on the junction of Soi 13 and 2nd Road, conveniently located for Walking Street and Soi LK Metro, as well as most of the massage parlours. It's a large hotel with over 100 rooms, priced at 800, 1200 and 1600 baht. I opted for a mid-price room which I was very pleased with. It was on the 6th floor and the balcony overlooked the swimming pool. It was clean and spacious and when I tested the bed it was comfortable. After such a long day there was an overwhelming temptation to close my eyes and fall asleep but I wanted to hit the ground running and go with a girl on my first night in Pattaya.
I'd slept with 11 girls so far and with six and a half days of my trip remaining I was on course to reach my target of 20. I planned to fuck two girls each day I was in Pattaya and I wouldn't do that by sleeping.
I decided that a soapy body-to-body massage would be the perfect way to relax after the day of travel I had endured. Pattaya has lots of massage parlours but I chose to go to one I knew from my previous trip, SABAI DEE. I knew where it was located, I knew that it had lots of girls and I knew that soapy massages were on the menu. I showered and got ready, taking a few condoms from my supplies before setting off. It took 20 minutes to walk there from my hotel.
Sabai Dee is a large colourful building located on 2nd road. It was 9pm when I walked in and sat down in front of a large L-shaped fishbowl (although 'fishbowl' probably isn't the most accurate description as there was no glass). There were 50 girls sitting on four rows of steps. A middle-aged papasan informed me that those on the left cost 2400 and those on the right were cheaper at 2000 baht. I bought a drink and weighed up the talent. The girls smiled and waved to me as I looked in their direction. Some of them playfully blew me a kiss while the older, less pretty girls were more suggestive, mimicking blow-jobs. I prefer the girls who smile sweetly.
I saw four strong candidates. 20 and 59 were both young and pretty while there was an older girl with big natural tits that would be perfect for the massage. Whether to choose 'young and pretty' or 'experienced and curvy' is the eternal dilemma in soapy massage parlours.
I opted for number 95, a pretty girl with a classical Thai look. She had an elegance and smiled serenely whenever I looked in her direction. I informed the papasan of my choice and went to pay at the desk. She cost 2400 baht. As I was waiting for my change the girl came to stand next to me. She looked prettier up close. She was wearing tight jeans and a warm smile. I was pleased with my choice.
She took my hand and led me to the elevator. As we were climbing up to the 3rd floor she told me that her name was Annie and she was 25 years old from Isaan. Once in the room she started running hot water in to the bath as I sat on the edge of a large double bed. I noticed a mirror on the ceiling directly above the bed, always a nice touch. In front of the bath was a tiled area where there was an inflatable mattress stood against the wall.
We got undressed and she had a beautiful body. She was about five foot tall and was slim with small but firm tits. She had long dark hair but tied it back before we got in to the bath together. It's a great way to break the ice, chatting to your choice of girl as she lathers you with soap. As always happens at this point I got hard and she smiled knowingly. She carefully soaped and cleaned it and I shivered in anticipation. My enforced three day drought was about to come to an end.
I asked her what 'you are beautiful' is in Thai and she told me 'sabai mat mat'. I repeated it to her and unless I'm mistaken she blushed. I imagine myself to sound like James Bond when I deliver lines as smooth as this.
She lay the inflatable mattress on the floor and covered it with soap before asking me to lie down on my front. Then she poured soap suds over my back before using her body to slip and slide over me.
This is where the big-boobed girl would have been especially enjoyable but although Annie had small tits, feeling them and her neatly trimmed Bush rubbing up and down my body felt great. After five magical minutes she asked me to turn over. 'This big' she said, stroking my dick. I think she probably says that to all of her customers! She rubbed her tits over it and I had to think of the off-side law to make sure I didn't shoot my load.
After we dried ourselves she asked me to sit on the end of the bed before kneeling in front of me and giving me a sensational blowjob. She sucked me deeply, licked, kissed and teased, all with lots of sexy eye contact. She assertively pushed me to lie back and I watched her head bobbing up and down in the ceiling mirror. As she expertly sucked, she dragged her fingernails down my chest which surprised me at first but felt great. This girl definitely had skills.
I was desperate to get in to her. We swapped positions and she knelt on all fours on the edge of the bed as I stood behind and eased in to her tight pussy. 'Slowly slowly' she said. I did as she said, fucking her with long, deep strokes as she reached behind and tickled my balls. I increased the pace and before long I was slapping in to her as she groaned noisily. Next she lay on her back and spread her legs invitingly. I slid in but disappointingly when I leaned forward to kiss her, she told me 'I only kiss boyfriend'. Apart from that she was a great fuck, thrusting her hips at me in perfect sync. Up to this point she'd acted in a lady-like manner so it surprised me when she wrapped her legs around me and said 'oh yeah, fuck me, my pussy is yours'. I love it when you unleash a tiger in the bedroom!
We finished with her riding me. Again, it was expertly done as she grinded her hips on mine while staring in to my eyes. Although she had small tits, her nipples were erect. Like doggy and mish before, we started slowly but before long she was bouncing up and down, groaning and clawing at my chest. It was a great sight in the ceiling mirror. 'I nearly come, I nearly come' she gasped and our bodies writhed together as we climaxed. She fell forward and lay on top of me for two minutes, me still inside her, as we got our breaths back.
What amazing sex. She was one of those rare finds who isn't just great at sex, she had the ability to surprise and delight. It was a shame she didn't kiss or I would have taken her number and arranged another meeting.
As we got changed she told me that while I had been making my choice earlier, some of the girls were talking about me. Apparently they liked me because in Annie's words, 'you handsome and you have nice jeans and shoes'. Appearance doesn't matter as much in massage parlours where girls go with customers regardless of what they look like, but it was an interesting insight in to a working girls mentality. Dress smartly and the girls are more likely to like you.
I gave her a generous tip. She deserved it because she was an excellent performer and knew how to please. We shared the lift down to the ground floor with a chubby Malaysian man in a Manchester United shirt and a pretty young girl with curly hair and braces on her teeth. She shared a joke with Annie in Thai and they both giggled before Annie squeezed my hand and smiled. The lift door opened and I gave Annie a hug before I left. What a great girl to get the Pattaya leg of this trip up-and-running.
I stepped out in to the heat and walked back to my hotel along 2nd Road. There were lots of beer-bars with up to a dozen girls in each. I passed a small bar called Kannika, where I bar-fined a lovely girl four years ago on my previous trip to Pattaya. Unsurprisingly she wasn't there. It would have been nice to see her but I was glad she wasn't there. I liked to think that she had returned to her province and set up the business she talked about with the money she made in Pattaya. It highlighted the ever-changing shift of girls in Thailand's biggest adult playground.
It was 11pm by the time I got back to my hotel. Pattaya comes alive at night but 12 hours of travel from Cambodia had exhausted me. As enticing as a trip to Walking Street sounded, I couldn't summon the energy. I needed a good nights sleep. Besides I was happy with my first night in Pattaya and Annie had provided me with the best sex of the trip so far.
It was good to be back in Pattaya.
I've always wante to try Sihanookville but I heard it was in the middle of nowhere. If I could fly there from BKK I would go there.
Annie is totally hot, I could easily choose her. I do have one minor question. After traveling from Snookyville to Pattaya why would you walk from The Lek to Sabai Dee? Why didn't you just spend 10 baht and take a baht bus to the front door of Sabai Dee.
Thanks for posting so many excellent reports. I always look forward to reading your posts.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1430779]I asked her what 'you are beautiful' is in Thai and she told me 'sabai mat mat'. I repeated it to her and unless I'm mistaken she blushed. I imagine myself to sound like James Bond when I deliver lines as smooth as this.[/QUOTE]Excellent report, SL!
I would only make one correction:
When the girl answered your question, she probably said: Khoon- suay/ maak\ maak\, which translated means: "you are very beautiful."
Sa_ baai- means: [is] or feeling happy; comfortable; content; fine; well; cool; okay; good; nice, so sabai mat mat is most likely not what she said.
For example, the name of the soapy massage parlor you visited is Sabai Dee, which means feeling good.
So if you say sabai mat mat to the next girl you fuck, wanting to tell her she's beautiful, she might look at you with a question mark on her face.
[QUOTE=Allover;1430883]After traveling from Snookyville to Pattaya why would you walk from The Lek to Sabai Dee? Why didn't you just spend 10 baht and take a baht bus to the front door of Sabai Dee.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the compliment about my diary. I would only recommend Sihanoukville if you wanted a change from Phnom Penh. It's not worth going to Cambodia especially when there are other beach destinations in Thailand much easier to get to. Regarding walking to Sabai Dee, I'd spent about 12 hours in a mini-bus, so it was nice to stretch my legs. Also I try to walk as much as possible anyway.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1430943]If you say sabai mat mat to the next girl you fuck, wanting to tell her she's beautiful, she might look at you with a question mark on her face.[/QUOTE]Haha, this explains a lot! I'm glad you liked my diary.
I slept well and took advantage of Lek Hotel's all-you-can-eat breakfast buffet for 150 baht. I had a busy day lined up. I wanted to visit Devil's Den during the afternoon, a place famed for porn-style threesomes, and then meet my friend Macca for a gogo tour of Walking Street at night. Three girls in one day, that was the plan.
DEVIL'S DEN is located on Soi LK Metro. To get there I walked north down 2nd Road (with the beach to the left) and turned right in to Soi Diana, opposite Mike's Shopping Mall. I walked past the beer-bars and near the end of the road turned left in to Soi LK Metro, an L-shaped road that contains about 15 gogo bars. Devil's Den is about 30 meters past the right-hand turn.
A couple of girls were lazing on couches outside as I pushed the door open and entered. It was 6pm. I sat on a stool at the small bar and ordered myself a drink as the manager explained the rules. Devil's Den has an almost identical set-up to Eden's in Bangkok in which the girls line up against a wall and you choose two of them. Just like Eden's there is a yellow line on the floor and the girls stand either one side or the other depending on whether they do anal sex. In Eden's you pick your favourite girl and ask her to pick a friend to ensure a better threesome experience but the manager of Devil's Den told me that 'all girls work well with each other'.
'Are you ready to choose? ' he asked. I was ready. The available girls walked in and lined up. There were 10 but the selection was below par. It didn't live up to my expectations having seen some of the girls on the website. The girls were older than I usually go for but I suppose you don't come to Devil's Den for stunning 18 year olds. Besides, I'd already had a threesome with two young girls in Phnom Penh, this afternoon was all about the porn-style experience. Some had nice bodies, none better than the girl standing at the far left, squeezed in to a black dress. She had big tits so she was my first choice. She came and stood next to me. It felt like being back at school when I had to pick football teams.
I looked up and down the line and some of the girls looked bored, so I chose a girl in a red dress who smiled a lot. Both my choices were from the 'no anal' side of the yellow line. The remaining girls placed their hands together in a wai and said 'khop kun khop' before walking out.
The girls led me upstairs to a small, dark room which had a double bed surrounded by mirrors. At the foot of the bed there was a swing hanging from the ceiling. We got undressed and I couldn't take my eyes off the body of first girl I had chosen. She was all hips, lips and tits. She introduced herself as Luck and she was 28. The other girl had a more petite figure. Her name was Holly and she was 33. Both girls were chatty, not just with me but each other, so I knew I had picked well.
Holly showered me and Luck dried me with a towel before I was asked to lie on the bed. The girls lay either side and stroked me. 'My goodness' Luck said in a comical English manner when she saw I was hard. She then starting kissing me while Holly went to work down below, giving me an excellent blowjob. After a few minutes I heard a buzzing and looked in the ceiling mirror to see Holly holding a vibrator. I thought for a moment that she was going to ram it where the sun don't shine but thankfully not. She used it to tease my balls and ass-hole and continued to suck me as Luck pushed her tits in to my face. This definitely wasn't my normal Monday afternoon.
You get two 'pops' in Devil's Den and I wanted to fuck them both. Holly lowered herself on to me first. She had small tits but nipples that begged to be sucked. I leaned up to kiss her but she turned her head away shyly. It's funny that you can meet girls who are happy to let you fuck them any way you like but refuse to kiss. Usually it's a sign that they have a boyfriend. I turned and kissed Luck instead. She was a great kisser with big soft lips and a tongue with a mind of its own.
I leaned forward, held Holly and flipped her on to her back. I fucked her hard as Luck teased herself with a vibrator. Her eyes rolled back and her free hand played with her nipples. If her aim was to tease, it worked. I swapped condoms and fucked her, firstly in mish with lots of kissing and then doggy-style with me stood at the end of the bed. I enjoyed slapping in to her soft arse as I grabbed her dangling tits. Holly pressed up behind me and pushed her hips with each thrust. I finished with Luck on top and held her big tits as I shot my load.
In Devil's Den you get 90 minutes so we lay on the bed chatting. The girls tried to teach me Thai, pointing at body-parts and making me repeat what it was in Thai (the only one I can remember is 'nom' which means 'nipple'). Luck spoke excellent English and although Holly's was limited, she had a cheeky personality and found it hilarious to slap my bottom as hard as she could! At one point Holly and Luck had a conversation in Thai while studying my dick, which by now had sprung back in to life. Luck said 'Holly likes big, she said this perfect'. Both girls burst out laughing. I'm sure they use the same line to all of their customers! Moments later Luck asked 'another go? '
Luck gave me a good blowjob with her big soft lips as Holly licked my chest. I wanted to try the swing. Holly sat on it and Luck strapped her arms and legs so that she was suspended in the air with her legs spread invitingly at a convenient height. I stood in front of her and pulled her on to me. The swing gave perfect access to her pussy and once we found our rhythm it felt good, the springs squeaking with each thrust. I was tempted to fuck her to a knee-trembling climax but instead I lay on the bed and she rode me energetically, like she was Queen of the Rodeo. In contrast to earlier she leaned forward and kissed me passionately. I'm not sure what prompted her to kiss now when she refused earlier but I didn't complain.
To finish I fucked Luck again, first me on top and then her riding me to a climax, her long hair cascading on to my chest as I fondled her perfect tits. It was a great session with two girls aiming to please. We got changed and I asked to take a few pics. Disappointingly they said that photos aren't allowed which was strange as their photos are on the website. I assume that Devil's Den only want professional studio shots of their girls in the public domain.
I gave both girls a tip and they walked me downstairs. On the ground floor I walked towards the door before the girls laughed and reminded me that I hadn't paid yet. I wasn't trying to do a runner, I'm just used to paying up front. At Devil's Den you pay afterwards which shows that the manager is confident that his girls will deliver a great service. It cost 3600 baht which is expensive but for that I got to have two pops with two girls any way I liked for 90 minutes. It's the kind of sex that will live long in the memory.
Outside there were now 15 girls lounging around. One looked younger than the rest and was an 8/10. As ever with places like this it can be a 'lucky dip' which girls are available at your time of visit. It is possible to book ahead via the website.
On this trip I'd eaten lots of Asian food but there comes a point when you need to refuel on Western stodge. I went to McDonalds and gorged on a Big Mac meal which tasted great. Energised and with a spring in my step, I decided to go to Walking Street early, so I could have a wander before my meeting with Macca at 10pm.
I walked there along BEACH ROAD. In the one kilometre stretch from the end of Soi 13 to Walking Street, there were probably 100 freelancers, sat on the concrete benches that line the path. They reminded me of merekats, their heads darting around to follow single men walking past. Most were aged between 25 and 40 and not exactly beauty queens. These are the girls that guys go with who boast about how cheap they can find 'stunners'. Unfortunately their stunner was probably Miss Thailand 1973.
You tend to get what you pay for in Asia and this is the bargain basement of Thailand's biggest pay-for-play scene. However, quality can be found even here. A few of the older girls were quite foxy and would undoubtedly give a good time for a cheap price. There were also lots of girls in their 20s and I counted three I'd rate as attractive. I suspect their prices would be higher than the 500 baht short-time prices quoted online. If you take one of these girls, ask yourself why she isn't working in a bar (after all, there is no shortage of bars for girls of any age to work at in Pattaya). I'd suggest locking up your valuables and wearing a condom.
I reached WALKING STREET at 9. 15pm. As its name suggests it's a long pedestrianised street lined with beer-bars, gogo bars and nightclubs. It's a blaze of neon, a cacophony of sound and perhaps one of the best people-watching spots on the planet. There are girls everywhere you look. Attractive young 'hello girls' holding happy-hour signs stand outside each bar and chorus 'helloooo! ' when guys walk past, freelancers patrol up and down and sexy girls dance on tables in beer-bar complexes that contain hundreds of excitable young Thai girls. If you can't see a girl you like on Walking Street you've got the sex drive of a breeze block.
There are also a crazy amount of tourists. You can't have a relaxing stroll while perving on the girls because hundreds of people swarm in both directions and you'll accidentally walk in to someone. It's not just men looking for a girl, there are families, couples holding hands, street performers and even huge tour groups of middle-aged Japanese women following their flustered tour-guide, flag raised high. It's a bizarre mix of people. It doesn't feel like a red light district, it feels like Angkor what with nudity and neon.
Macca suggested that we meet at ALCATRAZ at 10pm so I got there early. There is a bar outside overlooking Walking Street, so I ordered a Singha beer and sat on a stool. It was the perfect vantage point to survey the action. As I watched the river of people drifting past I wondered what percentage of them were actually looking to find a girl that night. I decided probably a third. Right in front of me were Alcatraz's 'hello girls' and I watched as they tried to coax customers to enter. As its name suggests Alcatraz has a prison theme and the girls wore black faux-leather outfits with handcuffs on their belts. I tapped one girl on the shoulder and suggested to her that she should handcuff passers-by.
As I was admiring a blond western girl pole-dancing in the window of Moulin Rouge opposite, a group of eight Indian men tried to enter Alcatraz. Two burly security guards stepped in their way and told them that they couldn't enter. I didn't hear what reason was given but I was shocked and wondered why. I heard a story from a girl once that sometimes Indians pay for a girl and try to get their friends involved for no additional money.
Macca arrived and it was good to catch up over a cold beer. He's a well-renowned singer in England and I hadn't seen him since the infamous groupie incident in Blackpool a few years earlier. He told me that our friend Owen would be joining us in a few days time. I was looking forward to both of them showing me what Pattaya has to offer.
Ten minutes later Conny arrived. He was staying at the same hotel as Macca and was one of those people who seemed to always have a smile on his face. Who can blame him, he's in Pattaya! He had already bar-fined a girl for later but wanted to join us on our bar-crawl. The three of us entered Alcatraz. Would we be able to escape?
It looked like a prison inside. Then again, if prisons had 10 sexy girls dancing topless I'd rob a bank tomorrow! There were 25 girls and all were young. I spotted a gorgeous girl with a customer nearby and another fine specimen on stage. Just as I was about to point her out to Macca, he nodded towards her and said 'she's pretty'. Three young girls walked around with a tequila shot tray. If I was on my own I would have bought a drink for the topless cutie on stage but we wanted to visit as many gogo bars as possible.
We finished our beers and walked to BEACH CLUB, one of Macca's favourites. It's located down Soi 15 and has an unusual layout with ten round tables lining the walls and a topless girl dancing on each. We were ushered to a table in the middle and before I had even been served my drink Conny was jokingly spanking a pretty young waitress who was giggling. He's a quick worker! Every five minutes the girls stepped on to the next table, giving customers a close-up view of the talent on offer. There were some good looking girls.
I was admiring a blond with large fake tits when a girl walked up to me and leaned against my shoulder. She was a 6/10 but was a sweet girl and had firm tits with bullet-like nipples. I knew I wouldn't be bar-fining her but I bought her a lady-drink anyway. 120 baht isn't a bad price to have a topless young girl sat on my knee for 15 minutes.
Although I liked Beach Club, the bar-fine is steep at 1000 baht, nearly double the price of the gogo bars in Bangkok. Macca suggested that the bar-fine is high to keep girls and customers inside the bar which makes sense. Big money can be made selling over-priced drinks to regular tourists, so bars recognise the need to keep their star attractions on show. That's the problem when a red-light district becomes so touristy. Compare that to Angeles in Philippines, a dedicated red-light district without casual tourists, where prices are far cheaper as a result.
Next we touched down at AIRPORT, a narrow venue with a stage down the middle and benches along each wall. Its intimate layout reminded me of Typhoon in Angeles, one of my favourite bars. The waitresses wore cute stewardess outfits and hats. Sadly we didn't get a safety announcement telling us where the emergency exits are located and where to find the sick-bags. Fortunately the latter wasn't necessary as 10 pretty girls were dancing on stage and there were three more naked in a jacuzzi. You don't get that at Suvarnabhumi Airport!
Macca was hoping to see a girl called Nong, who he described as his favourite girl in Pattaya. Disappointingly she wasn't there. It was a shame because I was learning that Macca and I had similar taste in girls. He told me 'you'd probably meet her and wonder why I like her' but I don't think that would be the case. The best girls aren't necessarily the prettiest, they are simply the ones that you click with, who have a smile on their face and a sparkle in their eye. I thought back to 'China Doll' from Atlantis a few years earlier. She wasn't the best-looking girl (in fact I was attracted to her by her big natural tits) but she was the funniest, silliest, most affectionate girl I've ever been with. Girls like her and Nong are the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow when guys like Macca and I come to Asia.
I saw a very pretty girl with curly hair sitting next to the door. Three times I looked over and three times she smiled back. When she got up on stage I thought 'game on' but sadly the warmth evaporated. I wanted to make eye contact with her and invite her down for a drink but she only had eyes for herself in the mirror and didn't once look in my direction. Conny was clinking bottles with a cutie sat on his lap. He'd already bar-fined a girl for later but there's no harm in looking for other girls for other nights.
'Where next? ' I shouted to Macca over the music. He laughed and said 'I've got to take you to Windmill. Owen will kill me, it's a terrible place! ' It wasn't the most glowing recommendation I've heard but I was intrigued. WINDMILL is located down Soi Diamond and is billed as 'Pattaya's naughtiest bar'. It was a small venue with six topless girls on stage and two girls doing a lesbian routine in the corner. We were shown to stools next to the stage, next to one of the oldest gogo girls I have ever seen. She must have been over 40 and was fingering her pussy. I nearly went back to Airport to fetch a sick-bag.
Interaction with the girls is encouraged. A girl bent on all fours and asked me to spank her and when Conny tweaked the huge nipples of another girl (Macca: 'you could get Radio 1 on those') , she handed him a condom and invited him to insert his finger up her pussy. He declined her kind invitation.
Although the talent levels were low, I like bars that offer something different. The prettiest girl had a 7/10 face but had eaten a few too many fast-food meals. Sometimes I don't mind a bit of meat on the bone and she definitely had a sexy arse, emphasised by her friend who was spanking her. She suggestively knelt on all-fours in front of us as Conny enquired about prices. The bar-fine was 700 baht and she quoted 2000 for short-time.
At 12. 30am we walked in to HAPPY GOGO which is located at the end of Soi Happy (between Soi 15 and Soi 16). Straight away I liked the place. It had a well-lit stage in the middle on which a dozen pretty girls were dancing in skimpy underwear. There were about 50 girls sat around the bar and the dance shifts were short and sweet, giving customers an opportunity to see lots of girls dancing. The place had a fun atmosphere. Good call Macca.
When I go to a gogo bar if I see one girl I would like to bar-fine, I'm happy. Sometimes I get lucky and see two but in Happy I saw four strong candidates within ten minutes of arriving. My favourite was dancing on a small stage in the corner. She was wearing a different outfit to the girls on the main stage, exposing less flesh. I suspected that she was a 'coyote girl' but she was a 10/10 in my books. I asked a waitress to invite her down to join me for a drink.
She was exceptionally pretty up close. Her name was Kin and she was 23. She had long curly hair, a dazzling smile and beautiful golden skin. I bought her a drink and she hugged up to me as we got to know each other. Her English wasn't good so after the usual questions (what your name? Where you from?) we needed the aid of a young waitress to act as translator. It was a strange three-way conversation, especially when I enquired about the price.
I held my breath as the waitress asked Kin. I suspected that she wouldn't accept bar-fines and even if she did, it would be expensive. Through the waitress Kin told me that the bar-fine was 700 baht and she charged 2500 baht for short-time or 4000 for long-time. It was pricy but not as high as I feared. She was a special girl and girls who quote 2500 will usually come down to 2000. That's a reasonable price to pay for a girl of her quality.
I was very tempted but after I popped the money question, Kin wasn't as fun and flirty. Sometimes this happens when girls are suddenly faced with the prospect of sleeping with a stranger.
Normally I will buy the girl another drink and play silly games to help her relax but I was enjoying my gogo crawl and didn't want to bar-fine too early. The waitress hurried my decision by telling me if I didn't pay Kin's bar-fine, she had to go back up to dance. I let her go. She was a strong option for later.
Happy had plenty of other good lookers. Macca pointed out a lovely girl dancing at the front of the stage, who's hair was tied up (Macca: 'the one with a pineapple on her head'). She kept smiling to him but when the bell rang and she stepped off stage right in front of our table, she walked past without looking in his direction. Perhaps she was already with another customer.
I paid my bill but as I waited for change, an 8/10 with wavy blond hair came up to me. I couldn't help but notice that she had large tits. She gave me a big hug, a calculated attempt to let me feel her prize assets up close. I hugged her for a little longer than perhaps I should and added her on to my mental shortlist for later. As I walked out I passed Kin dancing in front of two transfixed Korean men. I'd be amazed if she was still available if I returned later.
It was 1am and the time had come for Conny to meet up with the girl he had bar-fined. We said goodbye and went to I-BAR next, a large bar below Insomnia. It was busy and girls outnumbered men by 2 to 1. Nightclubs like Insomnia and Lucifer are popular with girls from gogo bars and massage parlours after they finish work (or return from an earlier short-time) as well as freelance girls looking to hook up with a customer. There were lots of girls, chatting away, having a drink and a good time. The advantage of picking up girls in nightclubs is the price. You don't have to pay anything to the bar and long-time can be secured for as little as 1000-1500 baht. The prettier girls will probably charge more. Compare that to the 4000 baht I was quoted by Kin for long-time.
There were some good looking girls and there was an exciting pick-up atmosphere. We positioned ourselves near the entrance and five pretty young girls each smiled to us as they walked past. We saw a petite young hottie nearby wearing tight jeans, handing bottles of beer to her group of friends. We suspected that she worked in one of the gogo bars and had already completely a short-time liaison with a customer and was now treating her friends to a night out. Her friends weren't as pretty and one of them kept looking over, so did my 'shoulder dance' which made her laugh. When Macca and I walked out she high-fived me. It was then that I saw Miss Tight Jeans up close and she was a 9/10. She was the type of girl you'd pay double the price for if you met her in a gogo bar.
If you're prepared to stay up late, nightclubs are a rich source of great girls available for cheap prices. However you'd need good game because nightclubs are busy public places and often the girls gather in groups. If you dress well and look friendly you will stand a chance.
It was 2am. Usually I'd be panicking by now that I hadn't got a girl but I was having too much fun visiting lots of bars with my wingman. Also I'd had a threesome earlier so didn't feel any pressure to take another girl. Where next?
We spotted a few cute 'hello girls' outside BABY DOLLS. We told them that we'd enter if they spanked us with their signs and they gleefully obliged. A little saddle-sore, we entered and sat next to a big stage on which eight girls were dancing. There were lots of fake tits and tattoos on show. Normally I go for the cute types but sometimes I like to mix things up with a girl from the opposite side of the spectrum. A slutty looking girl with huge fake tits caught my eye. She reminded me of a memorable fuck I had with a prostitute from Amsterdam once and given the way she danced, she'd definitely perform in the bedroom. The air-con was switched to 'cool' so the girls danced with great energy.
I'd been pleasantly surprised so far tonight by the lack of pressure to buy lady-drinks but within a minute of sitting down at SENSATIONS a young blond asked me for a drink. Seconds later another girl sat astride me and started grinding her hips on mine. She pulled my face in to her tits and then kissed me full on the lips. She wasn't shy. She had an average face but it's nice to have a hot-bodied young girl showering me with affection so I bought her a lady-drink. Her name was Tom and she was 21 years young.
There were two stages with ten girls on each. The bar obviously has a policy of employing cute girl-next-door types as opposed to girls with fake tits, fake hair extensions and fake smiles. I saw three strong candidates to bar-fine if it wasn't for the fact that I had Tom dry-humping me and trying to stick her tongue as far down my throat as possible. My favourite was a cutie with a Japanese look. She had pale skin, a heart-shaped face and big natural tits that were fighting to get out of the stripy top she was wearing.
The bar-fine was 1000 baht and Tom quoted 2000 for short-time and 3000 for long-time. That meant it would cost me 4000 baht (£87) to bar-fine an average looker for long-time! Compare that to Angeles where a 10/10 can be bar-fined for 1700 pesos (£27) all-in for all night. That's less than a third of the price. Walking Street is definitely not cheap. 'It's like Soho! ' Macca joked.
Despite that, I liked Sensations and the girls were lots of fun. When I left, I picked Tom up and carried her towards the exit as if I was kidnapping her. She screamed which the other girls found funny.
By 3. 30am Walking Street was substantially quieter. The big tour groups were conspicuous by their absence and freelance girls lingered at the side of the street, looking for a late hook-up. There were lots to choose from and some were pretty. Given the high prices in the bars, perhaps it is this time of night when Walking Street offers the best value-for-money. There also seemed more ladyboys at this time of night, looking to get their claws in to unsuspecting guys.
We entered LUCIFER. Although lots of people were dancing, Macca told me it was quiet. It was dark so it was hard to gauge the talent but it didn't have the same exciting pick-up atmosphere as I-Bar. Macca's mood wasn't improved when he bought us a beer each and was charged 340 baht. That's the price of two drinks in London! I can accept high prices in gogo bars because customers get to watch naked girls dancing but how can a nightclub justify those prices? If this kind of rip-off mentality spreads, Pattaya will become another Patpong. We sat on stools near the exit, hoping to catch a cute girl as she left, but we didn't see any worth intercepting.
By now it was late so we decided to call it a night. I thanked Macca for being an excellent guide and we agreed to meet again when Owen arrived in a few days. I briefly considered going back to Happy A-Gogo but doubted that Kin would still be there at such a late hour. Miss Tight Jeans from I-Bar was my second favourite girl of the night but she was a freelancer so could be anywhere by now. I had met lots of other pretty girls too but suddenly I realised how tired I was and decided that it was time for bed.
I walked back to my hotel via BEACH ROAD on the off-chance that I could find a girl for a quickie but there were slim pickings at such a late hour. All that remained were a few older girls. An Indian man with a thick moustache was haggling with one of the girls but she didn't seem to be in any mood to lower her price.
I got back to my room and collapsed on to my head. Despite not taking a girl, I went to sleep happy. I had a threesome at Devil's Den and Macca had taken me to some great bars on Walking Street. Of course the prices were steep but I had seen many gorgeous girls and enjoyed visiting lots of bars.
It had been a good day and a better night.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1431047]I'm glad you liked my diary.[/QUOTE]I have to say I enjoy your diary too. It has great info and is just a pleasure to read. Sadly some of the places you have discribed I will probably never see. Well not as a mongerer at least. I'm married and whenever I get on vacation the wife will always accompany me.
Well at least my line if work lets me enjoy a few places in the world.
Still it's great to see these places through your eyes, keep them comming!
Cheers,
AirlineCrew
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1431061]I looked up and down the line and some of the girls looked bored, so I chose a girl in a red dress who smiled a lot. Both my choices were from the 'no anal' side of the yellow line. The remaining girls placed their hands together in a wai and said 'khop kun khop' before walking out .[/QUOTE]Congrats on your detailed report. I enjoy reading them. However for me I pounded Luck's ass and even in the website she is A+. I got the same treatment from my threesome at devils den.
I wish I would have gone into windmill. Too many places not enough time.
Hi guys, I am arriving in Pattaya in the morning of June 11th next week after my MILF female cab driver takes me there directly from the airport. After a nap after the long fligth at I'd like to get a decent blowjob. What do you guys suggest? Where could I find it? I have heard there are some BJ only bars around? I have been to Pattaya a couple of times but only went to gogos or beer bars and those girls are not good in BJ if do it at all that is my experience (maybe bad luck).
I have never done CIM so would like to try, maybe it is possible for me too. I will stay around soi 7-8. PM if you are around we could see for a beer or a meal sometimes next week.
Hey guys I just got this in my email box so I am reposting it here. Please let me know how it went, I wish I could be there...
We are organising an annual all street party on the 8th and 9th of June. That is a Saturday and Sunday.
This party is located in soi 6 in Pattaya, please pop down with a group of guys.
We will be doing this every year and if its pulled off correctly, it will be rammo'ed.
I have asked around 23 bars so far if they will participate and 22 of them have said yes. So we are going ahead with it.
The concept of the party, is for every shop unit including the doctors will hopefully be partying.
The participating bars will be dressing up as unique or pretty as possible as a competition.
I have suggested putting on free food.
I will be requesting no Thai bands in the street or it will be mayhem.
I am pretty sure every bar will do their best to have a full stable of girls.
There will be no mainstream advertising, it will reduce the risks of problems and we will hand out flyers and also word of mouth.
This is an opportunity to promote soi 6 and see it at its finest.
I will be going to the other bars to ask who else will particpate in the street party, I will start listing them here as I ask around.
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Ruby Bar *
3 angels*
Quicky Bar *
Bull dog bar*
Pook Bar *
Queen Vic *
Corner Bar*
Bee Bar*
Night wish bar *
Pussy club *
Sky bar *
Smoke and Kisses *
Spider Girl Bar *
Obar*
O2bar *
Fun seekers bar.
Lisa Bar.
Lisa Bar 2.
Full Moon Bar *
Z Bar *
Solo bar *
So What Bar*
Saigon Girls bar*
Lucky Love.
Clansman.
Wet dreams.
A Bar*
Butterfly Bar*
My friend you bar*
You're welcome!
[QUOTE=Pekkakoo; 1431148]Hi guys, I am arriving in Pattaya in the morning of June 11th next week after my MILF female cab driver takes me there directly from the airport. After a nap after the long fligth at I'd like to get a decent blowjob. What do you guys suggest? Where could I find it? I have heard there are some BJ only bars around? I have been to Pattaya a couple of times but only went to gogos or beer bars and those girls are not good in BJ if do it at all that is my experience (maybe bad luck).
I have never done CIM so would like to try, maybe it is possible for me too. I will stay around soi 7-8. PM if you are around we could see for a beer or a meal sometimes next week.[/QUOTE]
Great stuff you have been writing, Sir.
More descriptive than a National Geography documentary without indulging in raw meat or gyno inspections.
An eye opener for the newbies on what they can find.
Well done and deserving a double and true "like" if ever existing here.
I woke at midday. I felt groggy so put my head back down on the pillow and slept for another two hours. Macca is a bad influence. When I eventually got up I'd missed the breakfast buffet so bought some pastries from the 7eleven.
My plan for the day was to visit a massage parlour in the afternoon and find a gogo girl at night. Two girls, no less.
I chose to go to HONEY massage parlour based on some positive comments I have heard. I turned right shortly after Mike's Shopping Mall in to Soi 11. It's a narrow street of bars. After 100 meters it opens up on the left and this is the car-park for Honey (not to be confused with Honey 2 which is located some distance up 2nd Road).
It was a hot afternoon so I decided to get myself a cold drink before entering at the bar on the corner. No sooner had I been served my coke, a minibus pulled up in front of the massage parlour and eight Indian men got out and entered. I didn't want to be feeding on scraps so I quickly downed my drink and entered.
Inside was a long fishbowl, in front of which was a row of leather couches. There were 25 girls sitting on the steps with those on the left costing 2000 baht and those on the right 2500. There were some lovely looking girls and pleasingly there were lots of big boobs on display too. Honey is another place that specialises in soapies so big tits are a bonus. As I was surveying the talent, one of the Indian men was trying to negotiate a group discount for him and his friends. Perhaps it is this kind of mentality why Alcatraz refused entry to the group of Indians the night before.
There were a number of nice girls but the standout was 108. She wore a lacy blue dress and had a very pretty face. She smiled each time I looked over and had a poise and elegance about her. I informed the papasan of my choice and paid 2500 baht at the cashiers desk. Moments later the girl appeared next to me. She was fabulous up close and reminded me of Annie, the girl I took from Sabai Dee on my first night in Pattaya. She took my hand and led me up to the 3rd floor.
Honey is quite a new place and the interior reminded me of a 4 star hotel. The room was one of the best I've experienced in massage parlours in Asia and had a luxurious feel to it. I bought us both a drink and we chatted as we waited for the bath to fill. She told me that her name was Mo and she was 28 from Isaan. When the bath was full we undressed and got in to the bath. She was slim with lovely pert tits. I told her that she was beautiful and she blushed.
The routine in soapies is always the same. Mo took great care and attention cleaning me with soap in the bath as we chatted and got to know each other. I flirted with her and she cleaned my dick, which by now was ready for action.
We got out of the bath and she lay the inflatable mattress on to the tiled floor and asked me to lie on it. She covered me with soap suds and then lay on top of me, sliding her lovely body up and down. Some girls have different techniques to others and Mo did some positions I haven't experienced before. She lifted one of my legs and 'scissored' me by grinding her pussy against my balls which felt amazing.
She asked me to lie on my back before sitting on me, facing away and slowly rubbing her pussy up and down my chest. I was hypnotised by her peachy arse. She then rubbed her pussy over my cock and I lay my head back and closed my eyes in sheer pleasure. Finally she lay flat on top of me and slid up and down. When our faces were level she kissed me on the cheek before sliding back down again. Next time she slid up I kissed her on the lips and she reciprocated with a long, lingering kiss.
We rinsed the soap off and dried ourselves before lying on the bed. Often the running order can be quite formulaic in places like this but our hands were all over each other and we kissed. I got the impression that she liked me and I knew it was going to be great sex because she wasn't shy. She slowly kissed and nibbled her way down my chest, before darting her tongue around my balls and licking my dick like a lollipop. All the time she fixed me with a stare that said 'lie back and enjoy'. It was an excellent blowjob, slow and slurpy with lots of deep sucks as her long hair dropped on to my chest.
After a few minutes, she surprised me when she lay on her back and demanded 'fuck me now'. In the fishbowl she looked sophisticated but I love it when a girls sexy alter-ego comes out in the bedroom. I fucked her slowly at first as we kissed before I leaned upright and fucked her faster as she wrapped her legs around me. We tried several positions and ended in 'cowgirl' with her riding me. At first she rocked her hips back and forth, gripping my dick with her pussy in a vice-like grip, then she planted both feet on the bed and bounced up and down on my cock in 'Asian cowgirl'. Gradually she upped the pace, her groans getting steadily louder until she tightened her face and gasped 'I come, I come! ' I shot my load at the same time and held her tight as we got our breaths back.
As we got changed we had an interesting chat. She told me that she doesn't get paid a wage, so if she doesn't have any customers, she doesn't make any money. Each time she has a customer she gets 1000 baht from Honey (out of the 2500 baht I paid). Perhaps this is why massage girls often give such a good performance. They are eager for your custom and the possibility of a tip. Massage girls can't rely on lady-drinks to bolster their pay-packets.
Mo agreed to pose for photos and was extremely photogenic with a big beaming smile. She was interested about my holiday and asked 'you go with any more girl? '. She was my 15th girl of the trip but I didn't think it was wise to tell her that as Thai girls don't like 'butterflies'. I told her 'you my second'. I thought it would be too unbelievable if I said I hadn't been with any. I was in Pattaya after all.
Not only did she give me a great massage and great sex, she was a lovely girl. Before we left the room, I said 'I give you tip' and I rummaged around my wallet before handing her a 5 baht coin. She politely took it before bursting out laughing when she realised that I was joking. I handed her a generous tip which I felt she merited given her efforts. Before we left she asked 'you have phone? ' and we swapped numbers.
In the lift she told me that she hangs out at Marine Disco when she finishes work. Further evidence of what rich hunting grounds the discos in Pattaya can be. The same girls that you pay high prices for in the gogo bars or massage parlours can be secured for half price if you are willing to endure some loud music and stay up late. Long-time would be easier to negotiate too as a lot of these girls live a distance away and the lure of a nice hotel room could be persuasive.
I walked back to my hotel and caught some late afternoon sun on my balcony. I pondered what to do later. I needed a change of scene from Walking Street. As enjoyable as it is, it's very busy, very commercial and my wallet could take the strain if I went every night. I thought maybe it was time to give some of the beer bars a chance but I knew that I'd spend plenty of time visiting them when my friend Owen arrived from England tomorrow.
I decided to go to SOI LK METRO instead where there are about 15 gogo bars. It's an L-shaped road off Soi Diana and it took just five minutes to walk there from my hotel. When I arrived I was encouraged by the lack of tourists. There weren't any large tour groups, families or couples holding hands, there were just men looking to meet girls. I presumed that the bars would be sensibly priced as a result.
It was 8pm when I walked in to CHAMPAGNE. It was quite small inside with five girls shuffling on stage, a few of whom were quite pretty. I went to the toilet and there were two girls applying make-up in the mirror. On the way out of the cubicle I banged my head on the angled ceiling and one of the girls said 'aw' before hugging me and rubbing my head like I was a young child who might cry at any second. She was a 6/10 but I enjoyed her warm embrace.
I returned to my seat. Four hotties were doing a dance routine on stage that involved doing the splits. I couldn't take my eyes off one of them. She had a breathtaking face and a perfect body. She was a clear 10/10 and fittingly wore badge number 10. She was also very nimble and at one point did mid-air splits while performing a hand-stand. My mind raced thinking about the fun I could have with a girl like her. All four girls were very pretty so I assumed they were 'coyote girls' and would therefore be expensive to bar-fine, if they could be bar-fined at all. But if you don't ask, you don't get.
The girls finished their dance and left the stage to be replaced by five young girl-next-door types, three of whom were topless. One had a perky set of tits but my attention was elsewhere. The 10/10 girl got up to dance on a small stage near the entrance so I intercepted a waitress and told her that I'd like to buy Number 10 a drink. She walked to the far side of the room and chatted briefly with her before going to the bar and returning to my table with a Jagerbomb. 'She has to dance now, will come soon'. I assumed that since it was early and she was such a standout girl, the manager wanted her dancing near the entrance to lure customers inside. It was just as well I acted quickly because moments later a man sat nearby tried to buy her a drink too. She was a popular girl.
After 10 minutes she stepped down from the stage and I felt a shiver of excitement as she approached my table. She had a mesmerising face and a perfect body. I said hello and she smiled politely. 'What is your name? ' I asked but again she just smiled, like she didn't understand, before picking up her drink and downing it in one. Before I had chance to ask another question, she pointed to the stage, got up and went to dance again. In the 30 seconds that she was sat next to me she didn't speak a single word! I waited for 15 minutes, assuming that she would return, but she didn't. I wondered whether she was mute but I noticed her kneeling down and talking to two elderly men sat on stools next to her stage, trying to coax lady-drinks from them. Not once did she look in my direction.
To sit with me so briefly and not speak a single word was disrespectful. I don't for a moment think that a lady-drink is a legally binding contract but it does signify interest. I wouldn't have minded if she had at least spoken to me! I decided to leave but didn't think it was right that I should pay for her drink. I took my chit to the cashier and politely explained that I would pay for my drink only. 'If I buy a girl a lady-drink, I expect them to at least talk to me! ' I said.
The cashier said something in Thai to the young waitress who told me 'if you no pay sir, she pays', pointing to Number 10, who by now was looking over. I suspect this wasn't the case. She was clearly one of Champagne's top assets and probably got bought dozens of drinks every night. In fact it seemed to be the bars policy to have her dancing as much as possible which was probably why she didn't have time to sit with customers. The bar would just write off the cost of the drink. I handed them a 100 baht note and said 'I only pay for my drink'. I gave the 30 baht change to the young waitress.
It's rare that I have bad experiences in gogo bars. I'm easy-going and accept that these girls are just doing their job and lady-drinks are a good money-spinner for them. But I also think it's important never to accept poor treatment. I didn't blame the girl as she was obviously just doing what she was told. Because of her beauty she was being over-worked by greedy management who didn't care about customer service, they just wanted to cash in as many drinks as possible.
I needed a pick-me-up and LADY LOVE sounded just the place. I thought it might have had a lesbian theme but it was a regular gogo bar with five girls dancing on stage and an older girl soaping herself in a shower cubicle. There were about 20 girls dotted around the bar, having fun with customers who were taking advantage of the 'Happy Hour' before 9pm. The bar had a good atmosphere and was the perfect hangover cure for Champagne.
I didn't see any strong bar-fine options but I enjoyed swapping smiles with a friendly waitress standing near the stage. I waved her over. Her name was Sue and I was surprised to find out that she was 32 as she looked mid 20s. I knew I wouldn't bar-fine her but she had an infectious personality so I bought her a drink. A girl like her was just what I needed after the poor service earlier.
The second dance shift had a few lookers, including a curvy girl who directed some bum-jiggling dances in my direction. She whispered something to the girls on stage next to her and they simultaneously looked at me and burst out laughing. I'd love to know what was said. Since I had their attention I taught them my 'towel dance' (imagine drying your back with an invisible towel). The three of them did the dance before collapsing in hysterics. I was impressed by Lady Love. It had the best atmosphere of any bar I'd visited in Pattaya so far.
Sue told me that she used to work in QUEEN but left because it was 'too busy'. As a result I decided to pay it a visit next. Busy implies popular which implies pretty girls. It was 9. 15pm when I walked in to a big smoky bar with loud music. There was a large stage in the middle on which eight girls were dancing in fishnet stockings. The girls were young and attractive and I spotted some sexy specimens sat on the sidelines too. Is this the real life, is this just fantasy?
So far I'd not been pestered for one lady-drink but that changed when a girl sat astride me. Her name was Pen and she was a dirty minx. She mimed blow-jobs, stroked my dick and put my hand inside her bra. She had firm breasts and her nipples were hard. By this point so was my dick. 'Buy me drink? ' she asked and I agreed. She thanked me by kissing me passionately and whispering in my ear 'I want you to fuck me up the ass'. Who says romance is dead?
She told me that she charged 2000 baht for short-time and 3000 for long-time. Had I been interested I could have haggled her down but she was a 6/10 and too filthy for my liking. Had I been interested, the bar-fine was 600 baht. Before I left I went to the toilet upstairs and noticed 10 girls chatting on the balcony. Some were topless and I walked past a very pretty girl on the stairs who had seemingly just arrived. Perhaps 10pm is when this bar really gets going.
Why do the gogo bars on Soi LK Metro have such camp names? I'd been to Queen, Lady Love and Champagne and next I was going to PARADISE. Would it live up to its name? It's a small bar opposite Devil's Den and although it was crowded with customers, I fluked a prime seat next to the stage. Four topless girls were dancing but there were 30 or more girls sat around the bar mingling with customers. As a result the bar had a lively, fun atmosphere. The girls were young 'girl-next-door' types instead of the usual tall, slim girls with long hair extensions.
After a few minutes I spotted an extremely cute girl on the opposite side of the bar with a pink flower in her hair. She had a Japanese look and was cuteness personified, exactly the type I go for. Sadly she was sitting with a customer. She saw me looking and gave me a sweet smile. I knew this girl had to be mine, if not tonight, the night after. I kept watching her and encouragingly she looked over five or six times, smiling each time our glances met.
After a few minutes my prayers were answered when her customer paid his chit and left. Immediately she stood up and walked towards my table, a cheeky smile painted on her face. She wedged herself next to me and hooked her arm with mine, staring at me with huge dark eyes that made her look like she belonged in Japanese comic strip.
Wow. Instantly I wanted this girl. As well as being possibly the cutest girl on the planet, she was very playful too. She danced as she sat at my side and pinched me on the cheek whenever I made her laugh. Her name was Pao, she was 19 years old and you get no prizes for guessing that she was born in Isaan. I bought her a drink and she held my hand tightly as we chatted, smiling almost constantly. She was a little ray of sunshine.
I knew this girl had to be mine. I expected high prices but she charged 1500 for short-time and 2500 for all night. They seemed fair prices given how pretty she was. Especially when compared to some of the higher prices I'd been quoted by far less pretty girls. It was only 10. 30pm but I didn't want to let a girl of such quality slip through my fingers so I paid her bar-fine (600 baht). She went to get changed and reappeared five minutes later wearing a cute polka-dot dress and a fake leather jacket. We shared a motorbike taxi back to my hotel and I enjoyed feeling her body pressed against me.
Back at the hotel I showed her the view from my balcony. There was music playing in a bar somewhere below, so I took her by the hands and we danced for a few minutes. She twirled around elegantly before spinning back and holding me tight. We went inside and lay on the bed. I passed her the TV remote and expected her to find some music videos, like most girls, but she put wrestling on instead. When I bar-fine a girl from a gogo bar I don't expect to spend half an hour cuddled up watching grown men in spandex throwing each other about! I didn't mind though. She watched with childlike fascination, giggling whenever one of the wrestlers was knocked over.
As we watched TV, we softly stroked each others arms with our fingertips. Soon we were kissing. When she pulled her head away she stared deep in to my eyes. This didn't feel like regular pay-for-play. We kissed again and I pulled her body close to mine as she traced her fingertips down my back. She leaned away again, this time smiling. We looked at each other for a few seconds before kissing again, this time more passionately.
We took our clothes off and she lay on her back. I put on a condom and slid in to her. She tightened her face so I stopped and asked if she was okay. She nodded. I was gentle with her, easing slowly in and out as she softly gasped and made the kind of high-pitched groaning noises I've heard on Japanese porn. Slowly I upped the tempo and she gained confidence, pulling my head down to hers and kissing me. I leaned upright and fucked her harder and faster, holding on to her small breasts. She lifted her legs so that her ankles rested on my shoulders, making her pussy even tighter, and looked me in the eyes and smiled. What a sight. Such a sweet and innocent looking girl, her hair spread on to the pillow, smiling as I pounded her tight young pussy. Pao obviously loved sex.
I lay back and she carefully lowered herself on to me. At first she rocked her hips back and forth in an inexperienced manner but then she really went for it, wiggling her hips furiously. I held her tits and her nipples were hard. She tightened her face and the squeaky noises returned, getting louder and louder until we came, our bodies shaking in unison like we'd received an electric shock. She lay on top me, me still inside her, and I hugged her tight.
I would have loved to take her for long-time, to cuddle up to and fall asleep arm-in-arm, then wake up in the morning to more sex, but I'd been feeling under-the-weather so decided to let her leave. I took her phone number as she was an ideal candidate for meeting one afternoon. She wasn't just pretty, she was great fun and extremely affectionate.
She got changed and happily posed for photos in which she looked adorably cute. I gave her 1500 baht as agreed, as well as a tip.
Apart from the negative experience in Champagne, I was extremely impressed with Soi LK Metro. The bars were lots of fun and they didn't have the commercial feel of Walking Street. Furthermore there were lots of good-looking girls and the prices were significantly lower too, unsurprising given the lack of tourists.
What a day. I'd fucked two lovely girls, both very different. Roll on tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1431061]I slept well and took advantage of Lek Hotel's all-you-can-eat breakfast buffet for 150 baht. I had a busy day lined up. I wanted to visit Devil's Den during the afternoon, a place famed for porn-style threesomes, and then meet my friend Macca for a gogo tour of Walking Street at night. Three girls in one day, that was the plan...[/QUOTE]Devils Den should give you as many shots you can manage +1.
Normally I end up the girls complaining: I know you empty, but I want one more!
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1431324).
As I was surveying the talent, one of the Indian men was trying to negotiate a group discount for him and his friends. Perhaps it is this kind of mentality why Alcatraz refused entry to the group of Indians the night before.[/QUOTE]I guess its part of their DNA. I've seen two / three Indian guys in Nana car park try to negotiate a 2 for one deal with some girls. When that didn't work they wanted 3 for 1. They just can't stop the negotiating thing. Makes them stand out as cheap. I can imagine them negotiating the condoms purchase in the 7-11 beforehand. A much unloved nation.
Hi Freebie,
I am sure you are free to write whatever you please. However such a vast generalisation does not hold true.
I am Indian. Born & bought up here. However I never indulge in bargaining at places where they are not warranted.
You surely would not bargain at a 7-11.
I guess its about personal mindset and the background you come from. Thankfully the school went to didn't have bargaining in the syllabus.
As far as mongering is concerned, I firmly believe that bargaining in this scenario ensures that you loose on service. Imagine the girl what she asks for, and if you can afford it, just pay her that. She'd feel wonderful and that would show in her service.
I remember a small instance I encountered in Montblanc last year. I bumped into this girl in the bar, which was not a pick up joint. We had a few drinks together and she was drop dead gorgeous.
She agreed to join me to my hotel and quoted 150 Euros for the same. I said I would not pay her 150, and after a brief pause added that she deserved 200. Guys, the service I got was unimaginable. More than GFE and she spent longer time with me than she said.
Therefore generalising a whole country would be prudent. But one thing is for sure. Do not bargain with the girl and if she's good, pay her a little more than she's asked for and experience a wonderful encounter rather than just bang bang.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1431608]I guess its part of their DNA. I've seen two / three Indian guys in Nana car park try to negotiate a 2 for one deal with some girls. When that didn't work they wanted 3 for 1. They just can't stop the negotiating thing. Makes them stand out as cheap. I can imagine them negotiating the condoms purchase in the 7-11 beforehand. A much unloved nation.[/QUOTE]
After a relatively early night last night, I woke early and took advantage of Lek Hotel's breakfast buffet. My plan for the day was to have a quickie on Soi 6 before meeting up at night with Macca and Owen, who was flying over from England later. I met Owen when I sat next to him on my first ever flight to Thailand and we've kept in touch ever since.
I spent the afternoon on Pattaya's narrow beach which stretches 3 kilometres along the curved bay. It's Thailand's busiest beach and not a place to go for peace and quiet. Almost the entire length is crowded with tourists lazing on sun loungers but I found a relatively quiet spot and went for a swim. Although the water wasn't crystal clear it felt good to swim in the warm water.
I decided that the time had come to visit the infamous SOI 6. It's a street 300 meters long that runs between Beach Road and 2nd Road. Hundreds of girls line the street sat on stools outside bars and if you see one you like, you can take her to a room upstairs. I love the sleaziness that you can meet a girl and be in her knickers five minutes later. It's cheap too. Four years ago I fucked a big-boobed 18 year old for just 700 baht. More of the same this afternoon would be very nice indeed.
I walked there at 4pm. I was in the mood for something different. I'the taken lots of sweet girls and now was the time for a bit of sleaze. Admittedly that's a dangerous mentality to have when going to Soi 6!
I slowly walked down the middle of the road, looking left and right at the girls while dodging the oncoming traffic (Soi 6 would be much better if it was a 'no traffic zone'). Girls sat perched on stools outside each bar and called 'hello' to me as I passed. The more boisterous ones tried to intercept me on the street and wrestle me in to their bar. A young 3/10 hugged me tightly and planted a kiss on my lips while a heavily made-up older girl flashed me her tits as I walked past. To be fair, she had tits worth showing off. Normally I like to fade in to the background but Soi 6 is a bear-pit.
The girls are not as pretty as those in the gogo bars but there are some fuckable younger ones. As ever with places like these half the fun is looking. A gem could be sat outside the next bar.
I reached the top of the road and I'the only spotted two candidates. One of them was a youngish girl wearing a green dress. She was applying make-up in a mirror and had a sexy body. Near the top of the road I saw the kind of girl I meant when I said I was looking for something different. She had pink hair, her arms were completely covered in tattoos and she had the face of a hardcore hooker. She'the definitely be an interesting fuck.
I backtracked down Soi 6. 1, a quiet street that runs parallel to Soi 6. It soon became apparent that this is where ladyboys hang out. There were a few men ambling down the street and given their slow pace, I think they liked their ladies with a hidden surprise. There were about 20 and one was well over 6 foot tall. She looked like she could play basketball for the Harlem Globetrotters. She had fake tits like bowling balls and was squeezed in to a black dress, which she pulled up to reveal a pussy. I may have been looking for something different but a giant post-op tranny wasn't what I had in mind!
I reached Beach Road and turned on to Soi 6 again. My pulse quickened. This was it, if I saw a girl I liked, I'the take her inside. I saw a blond with big tits that I hadn't seen earlier but the girl in green was nearby so I decided not to stick. It felt like a game of Blackjack. I walked further up and girls who recognised me from my first recce said 'hello again' with a knowing smile. They knew I was on the hunt. The girl in green wasn't there so I continued walking.
I saw a few reasonably pretty girls but nothing to get me too excited. I was pleased when I saw that the pink-haired girl with tattoos was still sat outside her bar but when I walked close I got cold feet. Although she had a unique look, she was older than I first thought. I reached the end of the road. I didn't want to turn around or run the gauntlet on Soi 6. 1 again so I aborted mission. I'the go to one of the nearby massage parlours instead.
I decided to go to HONEY 2, a few blocks from Sabai Dee. I'the had an excellent experience at Honey the afternoon before and I was hoping I'the be able to find a girl of similar quality. Honey 2 is a large building and given it's prime location on 2nd Road I figured it might be popular with lots of girls. It stands to reason that it would be more popular than its sister massage parlour Honey, which is somewhat hidden down a side street. There was a big sign outside advertising 'body-to-body' so I knew soapy massages were on the menu. I felt excited as I walked inside.
My first impressions were favourable. It was very smart and obviously a lot of money had been spent on it. I sat on a leather couch in front of the L-shaped fishbowl and surveyed the talent. There were 35 girls and some great lookers. I checked each girl and got lots of smiles in return. Some mimed blow-jobs or heaved their breasts to show me the goods on offer. A papasan informed me that the girls sat on purple sofas to the left were priced at 2200 baht and those in front were very reasonably priced at 1800. Honey 2 was the best value massage parlour I'the visited so far.
I spotted half a dozen strong candidates, most of whom were sat in the cheap seats. The more expensive girls weren't necessarily the prettiest, they were just paler and taller which Thai's equate to beauty.
Numbers 450 and 457 were both young with long, curly hair and could have been sisters. They smiled when I looked over and waved playfully. 31 looked older than the other girls but had a stellar body with large tits, a big bonus when soapies are offered. One of the higher-priced 'models', a 6/10 in my books, also had massive tits that wobbled each time she shifted position in her seat. Number 412 was another potential candidate. She had long straight hair, a lovely face and plenty of tempting curves. For the second day running, Honey had lots of honeys.
I chose number 412. She had a cool demeanour that I liked. She didn't wave or point at herself, she just smiled serenely. I paid 1800 baht at the cashier and when she came up to me she was younger than I first thought. She had lots of curves and a big smile. I was happy with my choice. She took me by the hand and we took a lift up to the room. She told me that her name was Nok and when I asked how old she was, she told me to guess. '43? ' I said and got a punch on the arm. Surprisingly she was 25 because she looked younger. I asked her to guess my age. She looked quizzically at me before guessing 29. I love it when girls guess I'm in my 20s! I said 'wrong, I'm 18'. She laughed and said 'I like younger men'. Haha, nice answer. I liked this girl.
We got unchanged and she had a lovely hourglass figure. She saw me looking and said 'me fat' apologetically. On the contrary, she had the kind of body I love and I told her so. She washed me in the bath and gave me a great soapy massage on the inflatable mattress. Her soft boobs felt great as they slid over my back. She asked me turn over and repeated the process on my front, sliding her body over mine. When she slid up my body, she kissed me on the lips.
I told her that it was my turn to give her a soapy massage. She laughed and obliged when I asked her to lie on her front. I poured soap suds over her back and enjoyed sliding my body up and down hers. 'Turn over' I demanded before repeating the process on her front. 'That will be 1000 baht please' I joked when I had finished.
We dried off and lay naked on the bed. Kissing is a big turn-on of mine and she was a great kisser, soft and slow, teasing me with her tongue. Not surprisingly this got me hard so she kissed her way down my chest and gave me a nice blow-job, albeit with a condom on. I lay back and thought how much I loved Thailand. After a few minutes of feeling her warm mouth wrapped around my dick, I couldn't wait any longer to fuck her.
She said 'so big' as I eased in to her, suggesting that she hasn't had many farangs. I fucked her slowly in mish before leaning up and fucking her harder, her tits wobbling with each thrust. I flipped her right leg over and continued to pound away before lying down and spooning her from behind. Every now and then I thrust as far in to her as I could, making her groan loudly. I then rolled her so that she was on her front, legs together, and fucked her hard from behind, slapping in to her lovely soft arse. I love this position when I get a girl with curves. I finished with Nok on top, clutching her big tits as she rode me. When we finished she fell forward on to me and we hugged each other breathlessly. Yet another Thai girl had delivered great sex.
As we got changed she told me that she'the been working at Honey for a month. I asked her how much of the 1800 baht she receives and she told me 1200 baht. Like other massage parlours, the girls don't get a wage which is why they are so keen to be picked. I handed her a well-deserved tip and her face lit up.
She happily posed for photos. She had a huge smile. We swapped mobile numbers and I hugged her goodbye when we stepped out of the lift. What a great girl. She was fun, affectionate and never stopped smiling. I walked past the fishbowl on the way out and there were now over 50 girls, including many more of the higher-priced 'models'. I think 8pm is probably the best time to visit for the best selection of girls.
I ate at Lek Hotel again. The all-you-can-eat buffet costs 250 baht and you can eat anything from fish curry to spaghetti bolognese. Only tea and coffee are included in the price so you have pay extra for cold drinks.
I was due to meet Macca and Owen at 10pm, so shortly before I flagged a songthaew on 2nd Road. They are vans with two rows of seats that do a convenient loop up 2nd Road and back down Beach Road. You simply hop on and hand the driver 10 baht when you get off.
I got off near Soi 1 and spotted LISA BAR, the bar we'the arranged to meet at. I couldn't see Macca and Owen so I sat on a free table next to the street and ordered a Singha for 80 baht. I was impressed by the quality of girls. Some could easily command a high price if they worked in one of the Walking Street gogo bars. I watched a 9/10 with a sensational figure dancing sexily on the bar before she got off and headed straight towards me and sat on my lap. Her skin glistened and she was flush-cheeked due to her exertions. She had a great face and oozed sex appeal but within a minute she asked if I'the buy her a shisha pipe (the equivalent of a very expensive lady-drink). I told her 'I wait for friend, maybe later' which she interpreted as lack of interest and walked away.
15 minutes later I saw Macca and Owen walking past. Amusingly they had been sat two tables away for the past half an hour but I must have missed them because I was too busy staring at the girls! I gulped down the remainder of my drink and we crossed the road and entered DRINKING STREET, a large beer-bar complex with dozens of bars. Each of them had up to a dozen girls with just a few customers at each. It seemed busy but Macca told me it was quiet.
We sat on stools at the first bar on the right and it was good to catch up. Owen had arrived early evening and given his long day of travel he wasn't sure how long he would last. It's amazing how quickly you wake up though when confronted with lots of pretty girls! The bar had nine girls and a few were cute. They weren't stunners, they were sweet, friendly girls, happy to chat. The advantage of beer-bars is that you can talk to these kind of girls with no pressure for lady-drinks and get to know them. Macca took a shine to a pretty girl but she quoted gogo prices of 2000 baht for short-time. We finished our drinks and moved on. The bar-fine in these bars is 300 baht.
There were seven girls at the next bar we went to. We chatted for a while before one asked 'you play Jenga? '. Macca declared himself the 'unbeaten Jenga World Champion' but lost his unbeaten (and in my opinion fictional) record to a sexy girl in an orange dress. Twenty minutes later we moved to another bar which had 12 girls. None were my type but I enjoyed chatting with them and people-watching around the beer-bar complex. Macca and Owen were fun guys and the girls clearly liked them.
I noticed a very pretty girl chatting with a customer three bars along. She had the kind of cute innocence I like so I made sure I passed her on my way to the toilet. She couldn't have been a day over 18 and had a 10/10 face. Sadly for me though the customers body language suggested that he wouldn't be able to resist bar-fining her. He was a young guy and held her hand while staring doe-eyed at her like she was his childhood sweetheart. He was on his own too, another indication that suggested he'the be looking to bar-fine her sooner rather than later.
I made a mental note of which bar she worked at and walked back to my stool. If I couldn't see her tonight, maybe I could bar-fine her another time. When you come to places like Pattaya, you need to make a mental note of where the pretty girls work.
Macca and Owen suggested that we leave Drinking Street as it was quiet. They asked me where I'the like to go. I told them that I'the been impressed by the girls at Lisa Bar, so we agreed to go there for another drink.
As we were leaving Drinking Street though, Macca spotted a very cute girl at the bar next to the entrance. She looked in her late teens and had her hair tied back and braces on her teeth. We bought another round of drinks and Macca weaved his magic on the cute girl. After a while he came back to us and told us that he'the been quoted 1500 baht for short-time. Macca and Owen told me that was expensive but to a beer-bar beginner like me I thought it seemed decent value given the quality of girl. If she was in a gogo bar. 1500 baht would be cheap. Macca said he'the return on another night and hopefully she would come down on price. When I paid my bill I saw her up-close and she was definitely the type of girl worth getting to know.
We crossed the road to LISA BAR. I was hoping to see the dancer from earlier, who despite her commercialism had stuck in my mind. Her voluptuous body probably had something to do with it. I couldn't see her but there were some great looking girls dancing on the bar.
Three young girls came to our table and one was extremely pretty. She had a 10/10 face and was wearing a blue party dress that showed off her legs. I knew immediately that I wanted this girl. I leaned towards her and asked what her name was. She sat next to me and introduced herself as Lin. I bought her a drink and we chatted. Sometimes when you meet a very pretty girl they can behave like a princess but this girl was fun and friendly. She was 21.
After a while Macca tapped me on the shoulder and told me that he and Owen were going to another bar. Although it was only midnight I didn't want to let Lin slip through my fingers. I arranged to meet Macca and Owen tomorrow on Walking Street and waved them goodbye.
Lin quoted me 2000 baht for short-time but immediately accepted my counter-offer of 1500 and a tip if she made me smile. I paid the 500 baht bar-fine and she said 'I go get ready'. Strangely she said it in a cold, businesslike way and I wondered whether maybe the smiles were just an act to reel me in. I needn't have worried.
On the motorbike ride back to my hotel she held me tight and back in my room she was back to her chatty self. She showed great interest in my trip to Cambodia so I showed her some photos on my camera which she seemed fascinated by. I showed her the view from the balcony and we hugged as we looked out. She was sweet and affectionate so I knew I was in for a great time.
We went inside and I found it funny when she pulled a huge wad of notes out of her bra. She was obviously a popular girl who makes lots of money from tips, so I felt flattered that she had agreed to my bar-fine request. Sometimes pretty girls like her make enough money from tips they don't need to go with customers.
She had a lovely slim body and small but perfectly formed tits. The sex was slow and gentle with lots of kissing and eye contact. We tried lots of positions and after a while I asked her what her favourite was. She got me to lie back and then lowered herself on to me in 'Asian cowgirl' before pulling me to sit upright (I think this position is called 'lotus'). She grinded her hips in to mine and nearly ate my face off she kissed so passionately.
After a few minutes I put my hands around her back and in one movement flipped her on to her back. We fucking while kissing frantically. She lifted one of her legs over so she was still on her back but I was entering her pussy sideways, a position I'the shown her earlier. Asian girls love this position as it makes their pussy even tighter. To finish she rode me and it was great to see such a pretty girl really going for it. When she knew I was nearly finished, she leapt off and pulled the condom off before wanking me until I shot my load up my chest.
After showering we lay on the bed together, cuddling and kissing. It's girls like Lin why a lot of men come back from Thailand married! She was a 10/10 girl and had surprised me with what a great performer she was. Sometimes really pretty girls aren't great performers but she loved to experiment and try new things. She would be a great girl to meet up with again.
I asked her whether she'the like to stay all night but she told me that she had to go back to the bar to meet her friend. I suspected that she knew that she could make more money at the bar from tips than extending our short-time to long-time. She could probably get another bar-fine too. Girls like her can make a lot of money very quickly. Good luck to them.
We swapped mobile numbers and I said 'maybe we have dinner some time'. She replied 'okay, but let me know early so I can make myself look beautiful'. I told her 'you always beautiful' to which she shook her head and said 'No, is just makeup!"
The conversation turned to her job. She told me that she hadn't been doing it for long and planned to make as much money as possible in two years and then start her own salon. She told me that at Lisa Bar she gets paid 1000 baht a night but only on the condition that she gets five drinks from customers. I asked her how many drinks she normally gets and she said '15 or more!"
She posed for lots of photos and not only did she love the camera, pulling lots of silly faces, but the camera loved her. I paid her the 1500 baht that we'the agreed in the bar and reminded her I said I would give her a tip if she made me smile. I put on a serious face and told her 'I no smile'. She tickled a tip out of me. I gave her 500 baht and she gave me a big hug. It was a generous tip but it pays to keep special girls on-side. I had a feeling I'the be seeing her again.
I waved her goodbye and reflected on what a great day it had been. I'the fucked a curvy girl-next-door type from Honey with the biggest smile I have ever seen and then a 10/10 from Lisa Bar. Nok and Lin were both great girls in very different ways. It had been the best day of the trip so far.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1363324]Wait, they were uncooperative towards the notion of anal sex so you "let them off" with vaginal sex? As if they had done something wrong by not consenting to anal sex! Go to a massage place or go-go bar and ask the mamasan which girls do anal, simple."They shouldn't struggle too much"? WTF are you planning to do to these girls? Listen these girls are human beings at the end of the day.
Instead of laying down the law to them try and show them a little respect, I think you might find this more effective as opposed to saying "your ass is mine, I paid for it so I will do what I want to it". Your part about ass pounding these girls is very disturbing indeed. I am guessing you are from Turkey but that aside you clearly have some deep rooted issues concerning women in general. If you come to Thailand with that attitude (which smacks of narcissism) then you will definitely get yourself into trouble.
Regards.
BJ[/QUOTE]First of all I would like to thank you for you're reply and you're point of view, and yes, I have some issues concerning women in general.
But let's be honest here, when it comes to us men turning to hookers I'm far from uncommon when it comes to that kind of problems.
Regards.
Good Report.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1431324]I woke at midday. I felt groggy so put my head back down on the pillow and slept for another two hours. Macca is a bad influence. When I eventually got up I'd missed the breakfast buffet so bought some pastries from the 7eleven.
My plan for the day was to visit a massage parlour in the afternoon and find a gogo girl at night. Two girls, no less...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1431608]I guess its part of their DNA. I've seen two / three Indian guys in Nana car park try to negotiate a 2 for one deal with some girls. When that didn't work they wanted 3 for 1. They just can't stop the negotiating thing. Makes them stand out as cheap. I can imagine them negotiating the condoms purchase in the 7-11 beforehand. A much unloved nation.[/QUOTE]This is sex industry. Like any other commodity business bargaining is normal. All people from all nationalities bargain. Never should be given asking price. Next time price surely will go up. You obviously is prejudiced against indians like some thai bar owners. IMHO bar owners are stupid barring indian and arab looking people. They are in business making money. What do they care where or from whom it comes from?
India has one of the largest populations of illiterates in the world. I think its currently 74. Considerably lower with women but we are not discussing Indian women here. Basic literacy includes counting change in stores, road signs and not much more. In fact many couldn't even sign their name as you are well aware having grown up there. With 1.2 billion people, half men and 26% of those illiterate, that equates to roughly 156 Million illerate people – that's more than the entire population of Japan by more than 20 million.
Despite this, these people continue to breath, live, exist and in fact some travel. If only a small portion of these people traveled to Thailand (a world recognized sex capital) then with only basic literacy how could they possible be expected to assimilate or even know how to behave in a culture so different than their own country, different in fact than almost any other country on earth. Look at how some aussies behave and their literacy rate is 99.
Having said that now YOU explain why it is such an accepted Thai practice to discriminate against Indians. It's not the money as Thais love money as we all do. And in fact any bar that actually needed more business would not turn away business, even from Indians.
You may be the exception as are hundreds of millions of your countrymen however your 'normal' behavior is just that – normal. And 'normal' behavior is not likely to change perceptions. In fact normal behavior is rarely noticed but abnormal behavior does and that's what we are seeing in the Land of Smiles.
Illiteracy is still killing your country.
[QUOTE=GamIndia; 1431612]Hi Freebie,
I am sure you are free to write whatever you please. However such a vast generalisation does not hold true.
I am Indian. Born & bought up here. However I never indulge in bargaining at places where they are not warranted.
You surely would not bargain at a 7-11.
I guess its about personal mindset and the background you come from. Thankfully the school went to didn't have bargaining in the syllabus.
As far as mongering is concerned, I firmly believe that bargaining in this scenario ensures that you loose on service. Imagine the girl what she asks for, and if you can afford it, just pay her that. She'd feel wonderful and that would show in her service.
I remember a small instance I encountered in Montblanc last year. I bumped into this girl in the bar, which was not a pick up joint. We had a few drinks together and she was drop dead gorgeous.
She agreed to join me to my hotel and quoted 150 Euros for the same. I said I would not pay her 150, and after a brief pause added that she deserved 200. Guys, the service I got was unimaginable. More than GFE and she spent longer time with me than she said.
Therefore generalising a whole country would be prudent. But one thing is for sure. Do not bargain with the girl and if she's good, pay her a little more than she's asked for and experience a wonderful encounter rather than just bang bang.[/QUOTE]
does anyone know any girls or where i can find girls that do extreme fetish? for example [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and rep001.
i have try the devils den, but no luck. thai girls tend to be very shy when it come to that kind of stuff.
feel free to private message me.
Seems the spellcheck (or censors) don't like percentage % signs.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1431795]India has one of the largest.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Khoon- suay/ maak\ maak\, which translated means: "you are very beautiful."[/QUOTE]Perhaps the Thai speakers could help me with pronouncing this properly? I assume "khoon" rhymes with "June" as that word is commonly pronounced in English. But how to pronounced "suay." Does it sound like "sway?" Or perhaps it sounds like "soo-ay."
Any assistance appreciated. I want to be able to flirt with the girls in their native tongue.
Bunky
Suay= sue + eye
[QUOTE=Bunky; 1431879]Perhaps the Thai speakers could help me with pronouncing this properly? I assume "khoon" rhymes with "June" as that word is commonly pronounced in English. But how to pronounced "suay." Does it sound like "sway?" Or perhaps it sounds like "soo-ay."
Any assistance appreciated. I want to be able to flirt with the girls in their native tongue.
Bunky[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1431916]Suay= sue + eye[/QUOTE]Don't forget the proper tone for each word, as Thai is a tonal language, and if you don't get it right you might not be understood.
That's why I provided simple tone indicators for each word: Khoon- is pronounced with a mid tone, i. e. No inflection; suay/ with a rising tone; and maak\ maak\ with falling tones.
Phom/ rak^ khoon- ("I love you.") ^ = a high tone
phom/ yaak_ gaawt_ khoon- ("I want to hold (hug/embrace) you.") _ = a low tone
my time in thailand was running out so i wanted to keep the momentum going with two more girls today. if i could have a day anywhere near as good as yesterday, i'd be very happy. i utilised the breakfast buffet at lek hotel and after some souvenir shopping on beach road it was time to consider my afternoon entertainment.
so far i had been to three massage parlours in pattaya: sabai dee, honey and honey 2 (as well as devil's den for the threesome). today i wanted to try another that is recommended online, dream teen. i visited its website and there were some pretty girls. ploy looked young and cute and pai had fair hair and a lovely face.
at 5pm i set off from my hotel. i walked down 2nd road and turned right in to soi diana, opposite mike's shopping mall. at the t-junction at the end of soi diana i turned left on to soi buakhao. i walked down this busy road for a couple of minutes before turning right in to soi 21, 100 meters past the big sawasdee siam hotel, painted in unmissable purple. soi 21 isn't signposted but you can see a sign for dream teen at the junction.
it was 5. 20pm when i arrived. it looked small from the outside and like a regular massage shop. i walked in and a young girl behind reception showed me a photo album with photos of the girls. they were the same photos from the website. the photos were professional studio shots and the girls were heavily made-up, which sometimes can be misleading, so i asked the receptionist if i could see the available girls face-to-face. she went to fetch the girls and handed me a price-list. at dream teen you pay for the room and massage, then it's up to you to pay the girl for extras. i opted for an oil massage for 400 baht although i was tempted to pay extra for the jacuzzi room.
the receptionist beckoned me to sit on a couch and the girls lined up in front of me. there were 10 girls and they said 'sawasdee khop' in unison and placed their hands together in a wai. it was immediately obvious that not all of these girls were teens as the name 'dream teen' suggests! some looked late twenties. i didn't see ploy or pai but there were others who caught my eye, especially a tall blond with lots of curves and a petite indian looking girl. i recognised the latter as one of my favourites from the website so decided to pick her.
she was extremely pretty up close. she had one of the nicest smile i've seen and reminded me of one of my best friends out-of-bounds younger sister. her name was new. she led me upstairs to a room that had little more than a big double bed and a small shower cubicle. it was small but adequate and had air-con, top of my wish-list.
new asked me to shower and when i dried myself she asked me to lie on the bed. i was naked and she was wearing a light floral dress. she gave me a 25 minute oil massage. i thought i might be given a token massage and we'd quickly move on to extras but that wasn't the case at all. she skilfully massaged by back and my arms, then my legs and my feet and she had magic hands. the massage was as good as any i've had in a legitimate massage shop.
she asked me to turn around and didn't bat an eyelid that i was hard. instead she focussed her attention on continuing the excellent massage. there was some asian music playing on a small radio next to the bed so i took her hands and we danced, which was a good ice-breaker.
she caressed my dick while squeezing my balls with her other hand, then asked 'you want specials? ' she told me that a hand-job would cost 500 baht, a blow-job or body-to-body would be 1000 baht and 'all three plus boom-boom' 1500 baht. i opted for the full package. she undressed and had a lovely body with medium-sized tits. she leaned over me and rubbed them up and down my chest and over my dick, her hard nipples feeling great against my skin. she kissed my neck and strangely blew in to my ear as i sucked her nipples. the blowjob was magical. she teased me by licking, kissing and nibbling while maintaining eye contact before taking it in her mouth and giving me long, deep sucks.
she rolled a condom on to me and lowered herself on. she rocked her hips on mine and gripped my dick with her pussy. she was very tight and i knew there was a danger i could come too soon unless i took control, so i flipped her on to her back. we fucked in missionary and she was a very enthusiastic kisser. she lifted her ankles on to my shoulders and groaned as i fucked her harder and faster. we tried lots of different positions. she crawled on to all-fours and i fucked her doggy-style before pushing her to lie flat on her front and continuing to enter her from behind. she pushed back at me with each thrust, groaning as i slap-slap-slapped in to her.
we finished with her on top, riding me furiously. i could tell by the noises that she was making that she was really getting in to it. we came together and she collapsed on top of me, me still inside her. when she got her breath back she leaned up, looked me in the eye and said 'again! '
what a girl. she was pretty, had a dazzling smile and her skills were fantastic. the massage was excellent, her blow-job got top marks and the sex was the kind of energetic girlfriend experience i crave. she was a 10/10 in my books. usually i don't hand out 10/10's easily but that's two in two days. we showered and i gave her a well deserved tip.
i stepped outside at 6. 20pm and walked back to my hotel. i cut through soi lk metro and noticed seven girls sat outside devil's den, including a pretty one i hadn't seen when i visited. she had an oriental look about her as though she had chinese blood. as i walked along soi diana girls shouted 'hello' from the beer-bars.
my time in pattaya was turning in to a continuous cycle of waking up, eating breakfast, visiting a massage parlour, eating dinner and then taking my second girl of the day from a gogo or beer bar at night. in other words, paradise!
earlier i sent owen a message suggesting we meet up later, but i still hadn't heard back. not to worry, i'm not averse to flying solo. after getting my money's worth from lek's buffet, i set off towards walking street.
it was 8pm and beach road was busy with freelancers. most were aged between 30 and 40 but there were some younger girls too. if you took the top 10 girls on beach road and put them in a gogo bar, it would certainly be worth visiting. just before walking street there were four uzbek / russian girls. they smiled as i passed by. three were average (including a rather chunky blond) but one was a pretty brunette. girls on beach road charge from 500 to 1000 baht short-time or 1000 to 1500 long-time but i suspect that the uzbeks / russians would charge more due to supply and demand. one of the nice things about beach road is that i wasn't propositioned once. the girls just sit there and occasionally smile. it's completely pressure-free.
i was shocked again by the sheer volume of people on walking street. at one point a street performer was doing a card trick in the middle of the street and a large number of people gathered around to watch. it created a bottleneck and people tried to squeeze past. i put my hands in my pockets as it seemed the perfect place for a pickpocket.
i decided to go to what's up first, a bar i have been recommended. it's down soi 15 and there is a big question mark sign outside. the decor was completely white. the stage, the walls and the couches, all matching the girls white panties and bras. there were two stages and like lots of bars in pattaya, a jacuzzi. seven girls were on stage but there wasn't much dancing. in fact some of them some stood motionless with their arms folded. the bar felt like it was yet to get going and there was only one other customer. compare that to big bars in angeles where every single girl is on-stage at 7pm and there is a party atmosphere with balloons and party poppers.
there were 30 girls but others were still arriving. i saw three pretty ones walk in and head straight to the changing rooms. one was a 9/10 with long curly hair. she smiled to me as she breezed past so i made a mental note of her face. i was about to finish my beer (a pricy 165 baht) when some dramatic music started playing and all of the girls crowded on to the two stages and started dancing at the same time. suddenly the place had atmosphere. there were some nice lookers but when the song finished, they dispersed. 8.20pm is too early to visit this bar, i suggest calling in after 10pm.
next i went to baby dolls which in contrast to what's up was busy with customers. there were eight young girls on stage and they were topless, meaning there were lots of pert breasts on show. i got a stage-side seat and noticed that although the girls wore short skirts, they weren't wearing any knickers beneath. two girls washed each other in a jacuzzi and two more did a lesbian routine on a separate stage. i don't like these half-hearted lesbian routines as the girls look awkward most of the time, yet the seats surrounding them are always taken, usually by older gents.
a topless girl sat next to me and introduced herself as mod. she was 23 and had a lovely firm pair of medium-sized tits. we chatted for a few minutes before she went up to dance. moments later another girl sat next to me and after the usual questions asked 'you buy me drink? '. baby dolls is a good bar with nice girls but pushy for lady-drinks.
the bar-fine system is clever. short-time is 600 baht and long-time is 800 but after 1. 30am all bar-fines drop to 300 baht for every girl. all bars should follow suit. mod quoted me 1500 baht for short-time which seemed a fair price.
i went to an internet café and there was a message from macca in my inbox telling me that he and owen would be in airport at 10pm. the time was 9. 50pm. perfect.
i like the intimate layout of airport. six girls were dancing and two were covering each other with soap-suds in the jacuzzi. it's admirable that the girls take personal hygiene so seriously! one was a 9/10 with a perfect body and firm breasts. she performed a high-speed spin around a pole at one point. my knees hurt just watching.
i bought some pork scratchings and a waitress cheekily nabbed one when she walked past. when i looked at her she acted innocent. a few minutes later she tried to take another but this time i was ready and pulled them away from her reach. she pretended that she was upset and wiped imaginary tears from her eyes, so i bent down on one knee in front of her like i was proposing and held out the pork scratchings. she burst out laughing. i love the silly banter you can have with the girls.
macca and owen arrived and we caught up. they quizzed me about lin, the honey i bar-fined from lisa bar, and i was equally keen to hear how their night ended up. it's fun being able to swap stories.
outside glasshouse there were two very pretty 'hello girls' wearing yellow outfits. one of them was a little stunner so i did something i don't normally do. i asked her what her name was and when she told me it was annie, i offered to buy her a drink right there on the street. she smiled and followed me inside.
although she looked young and innocent, her nose, lip and eyebrow were pierced. she was 23 and she held my hand as we chatted. the night was young but i really liked this girl. she was pretty, good fun and her piercings suggested that she might have a wild side. she told me that the bar-fine was 400 baht for short-time and 1000 for long-time and she charged 1500 for short-time. that was a fair price for such a pretty girl.
it proves that the smaller bars are worth visiting as there are always gems to be found (something i discovered in angeles the year before). although there were only six girls dancing, i saw a lovely girl with short hair and macca had his eyes on another cutie. the less-hyped bars also don't have as many customers which means that if you see a girl you like, you've got less competition. we finished our drinks and left. annie was a strong option for later.
owen and macca let me choose where to go next as they knew i only had a few nights left of my trip. what gents. i enjoyed myself on drinking street the night before so i was keen to visit some of walking street's beer-bars.
it was 10. 45pm when we entered simon's bar, a large complex about halfway down walking street with 16 open-sided beer-bars. it was far busier than drinking street and there were many more girls, about a dozen in each bar. the girls competed for our attention by screaming deafeningly as we walked down the central aisle. we settled on the 4th bar on the left which was called 'rolling live'.
there were 10 girls and owen pointed to a sweet young thing with long curly hair and informed me that he'd slept with her on a recent trip. i asked him whether he'd taken any more from the bar and he replied that he'd probably bar-fined 60 girls from simon's bar complex! i had no idea he was such a busy boy.
he told me that he never pays more than 1000 baht, which is understandable as he spends a month at a time in pattaya so needs to budget accordingly. i can see now why he likes the beer-bars so much. in the past i've not been a fan but after a few beers with owen and macca and no shortage of female company, i could see the appeal. the girls are easy-going and good fun and not once did they ask for a lady-drink. there is a relaxed atmosphere and you can really get to know a girls personality.
and of course if you meet a girl that you really like, you can bar-fine her for a much cheaper price than the girls from the gogo bars. i'd seen some real quality over the past few nights too. in future trips i will certainly visit them more.
macca was busy chatting to a lovely looking girl. she was young and had the kind of fresh-faced appeal that i like too. she quoted him 1000 baht for short-time and he told me that he'd probably bar-fine her later in his holiday.
i liked macca's relaxed attitude. he didn't rush in to things, he took his time and his motto seemed to be 'quality not quantity'. owen and i on the other hand want to go with as many girls as possible and we get frustrated if we have a girl-free night! the great thing about pattaya is no matter what your modus operandi is or how much money you are prepared to spend, there is no shortage of girls for you.
we finished our drinks and opted on a bar near the entrance. there were 12 girls and a hottie in a figure-hugging dress danced on the next bar.
however, i couldn't get annie out of my mind. it was too early to bar-fine her but i didn't want to miss out on her either. i decided to go back and try to book her for later. she was still standing outside glasshouse and when she saw me she gave me a big hug and said 'you come back! ' i was pleased by her reaction as it suggested that she liked me. i told her that i wanted to bar-fine her but since i was with friends, could i return at 2am and take her then? she agreed. i kissed her on the cheek and disappeared in to the river of people on walking street.
i was pleased. it was 11. 30pm and i had the best of both worlds. i had a great girl lined up for later but an opportunity to spend a few more hours with macca and owen visiting gogo bars. i love it when a plan comes together.
macca and owen told me 'you've got to see this' as we entered the arab quarter. it's an area of bars just off walking street. men lounged on couches and the air was thick with smoke as they smoked shisha pipes. but the main thing i noticed was how crazily loud the music was. i had to shout to make myself heard to owen who was walking right next me. maybe the volume was switched up high to cover up the language barrier between the arabs and the girls? there weren't many girls but i noticed a disproportionate amount of ladyboys. not that i'm jumping to conclusions.
we went to baccara next. its namesake in bangkok is renowned for having the prettiest girls, so i figured that it probably has the same management and therefore the same recruitment policy. the ground floor was packed with mainly older asian customers just as it had been in bangkok. there wasn't a spare seat which was a shame because the stage was crowded with 25 pretty girls including a few who were exceptionally pretty. there were lots of slim bodies and long hair extensions on show. a young waitress led us upstairs which was busy too. most seats were taken by customers but we were shown to a raised seating area in the far corner. it wasn't the ideal spot as it was too far from the stage to form any kind of rapport with the girls or to intercept them as they walk past.
just like baccara in bangkok there were some nice looking girls but there was a distinct lack of atmosphere. the girls seemed to be in a world of their own on stage. one set of girls were replaced by another dance-shift, all of whom were topless. one of them looked like a porcelain doll with pale skin and a beautiful face.
i went to the toilet. when i returned macca told me that he'd seen a girl walk past with, in his words, 'the biggest tits i've seen in thailand'. he pointed in the direction that she had walked so i carefully scanned around. i couldn't see her. in the past i have gone with girls purely due to the size of their breasts! it shames me to admit that back in england i've got a fuck-buddy whose 42hh tits go some way to make up for her 1/10 face.
it was macca's turn to choose and we returned to one of his favourites, beach club. there were 10 separate tables on which naked girls danced. we were shown to a table in the corner where we stared transfixed at the slender young body dancing in front of our eyes. every five minutes the girls changed table so we got a close-up view of lots of naked girls. i can see why macca likes the place.
the girl who i bought a lady-drink for on my first visit spotted me and came over. once again she was topless and i surreptitiously admired her pert tits as we chatted. i really like beach club. it has a clever layout, they have some pretty girls and there are lots of sexy young bodies on show. we finished our drinks and macca told us that he was going to soi pattayaland to bar-fine a girl he had met a few nights earlier. he told us that he ripped his shirt on a stray wire and she stitched it up for him. that's what you call service! the time was 1. 30am so i decided to go and bar-fine annie early. i asked owen what his plans were and he nonchalently said 'oh i'll find someone'.
i returned to glasshouse but annie wasn't outside. i entered and the mamasan told me 'annie not here, be back soon'. it was obvious she'd gone with another customer. i didn't blame her as girls just want to make as much money as possible and i wouldn't expect her to turn down a bar-fine because of me. besides i was half an hour early. i decided i may as well visit a few more bars while waiting for annie to return.
when macca gave me a tour of walking street earlier in the week, i'd been impressed by happy agogo, so i decided to pay it another visit. i was hoping to see kin, the exceptionally pretty girl i bought a lady-drink for, but she wasn't there (probably already bar-fined). there were perhaps 50 girls sat around the bar and i had a stage-side view when six topless young girls pulled off their knickers. ironically britney spears was singing 'i'm not that innocent' at the time.
i returned to glasshouse at 2am but annie still wasn't there. not to worry, i decided to check out beach road to kill time. there were much slimmer pickings at this hour. i was hoping to see the brunette uzbek girl and get her phone number but like most of the younger girls on beach road she was gone. there were still dozens of freelancers to choose from but they were all well-worn and not very appealing. walking street on the other hand is busy at any time of night. after midnight the regular tourists have gone to bed so scores of freelancers stand at the side of the road. there were some nice looking girls as well as lots of ladyboys. it's funny watching regular tourists discretely trying to take photos of them.
i went back to glasshouse and annie still wasn't there. it was 2. 25am and she was now officially late. perhaps she'd taken a customer for long-time? i decided to give her until 3am and if she hadn't returned i'd find another girl. i had some good options. the cutie in what's up, the jacuzzi girl at airport and porcelain doll from baccara were all very pretty girls. not to forget the girl with 'the biggest tits in thailand'.
i returned to baccara and managed to get a seat downstairs this time. sadly the talent levels had dropped significantly in the space of two hours. i didn't see any standout girls apart from a few who were with customers. after ten minutes there was a shift-change and a new set of girls got up on stage. a couple were 8/10's but none of them were annie. when you've got your heart set on a girl, it's difficult to take second prize. i finished my drink and went for a quick recce around the bar, looking for the girl with 'the biggest tits in thailand'. again i couldn't find her. perhaps she'd toppled over in a corner somewhere and couldn't stand up again.
the time was 3am so i decided to give glasshouse one last try. if annie wasn't there i could always bar-fine her tomorrow night instead. as i approached, a familiar figure rushed towards me. it was annie! she was very apologetic and told me that she was late because she had gone dancing with her sister. i knew it wasn't the truth but i didn't mind. she looked great and i was pleased by her reaction when she had seen me again. i told her that i wanted to pay her bar-fine.
she went inside to get changed and i handed over 400 baht to the middle-aged mamasan who cheekily asked for a tip. for what exactly? i just smiled and pretended i didn't hear. while i was waiting outside i made myself useful. i took one of the '90 baht drinks' signs and stood next to the 'hello girls' trying to coax customers inside. i've never been a 'hello girl' before but i think i did a very good job. five minutes later annie reappeared wearing a leather coat that complemented her facial piercings. i liked her rock-chick image. she took my hand and led me to the top of walking street where we got on the back of a motorbike.
however there was a problem back at the hotel. when security asked for her i'd card she fished around her handbag for a few minutes before telling me apologetically 'i no have i'd, i left at home'. the young security guard told me 'no i'd, no enter'. i tried to persuade him but he officiously tapped a sign which said 'all guests must have i'd'. i decided to try a different approach and asked whether perhaps we could come up with some kind of 'arrangement' but he just tapped the sign and looked smug. he wouldn't budge. i got the impression that he was a jobsworth and was relishing his position of power. no matter what i said there was no way i could talk him round. even the lure of a bribe didn't work.
'come on, let's go' said annie and we walked out. on the street i asked her if she could go and get her i'd card but she told me that she lived 30 minutes away. 'you come my home with me? ' she asked hopefully but i didn't like the idea of travelling 30 minutes in to an unknown neighbourhood. 'okay, you come back tomorrow at nine? ' she said. again i wasn't keen on the idea. i had already paid her bar-fine and i knew that the mamasan would make me pay it again.
as i was wondering whether there was a short-time hotel nearby, i noticed that her eyes were watery. i asked her what was wrong and she told 'i know i work in bar' and started crying. she was upset that my prolonged discussion with the security guard had humiliated her, ramming her occupation down her throat. i felt bad and hugged her. 'i see you tomorrow' i said and watched as she got on the back of a moto and disappeared in to the night.
at first i was angry with the security guard at lek hotel. would it have done any harm to let annie in with me? but then i realised that the guard was just doing his job by enforcing a rule which is meant to protect the guests from theft. perhaps that's what upset annie, the implication by the security guard that she couldn't be trusted?
i was in danger of a girl-free night. i checked the time and was shocked to see that it was 3. 45am. i wasn't in the mood to return to walking street so i hastily walked to soi diana instead. the beer-bars were almost empty, apart from a few stragglers, and the gogo bars on soi lk metro were closed. i sent a text message to lin (the 10/10 from lisa bar) but she replied almost straight away 'in bed tired, tomorrow okay? '
i decided to admit defeat and go to bed. i wasn't in a very good mood anyway. it wasn't the fact that i didn't get a gil (after all, i'd fucked a great girl in dream teen earlier) it was the sight of seeing annie crying.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1431919]Don't forget the proper tone for each word, as Thai is a tonal language, and if you don't get it right you might not be understood.
That's why I provided simple tone indicators for each word: Khoon- is pronounced with a mid tone, I. E. No inflection; suay / with a rising tone; and maak\ maak\ with falling tones.
Phom / rak khoon- ("I love you.") = a high tone.
Phom / yaak_ gaawt_ khoon- ("I want to hold (hug / embrace) you.") _ = a low tone[/QUOTE]FORGET reading it, you have to hear it, and from a Thai male. If you copy a female, you might end up sounding like a katoey, LOL. Forget reading it!
Dear Sir,
I appreciate the effort you have put in to google out so much info about india and the poor literacy rates. There is no way I can deny the same.
However my point is that this site haa been started with the intention of coordinating between mongers like you and me who think below the waist when it comes to girls. We don't let money be a spoil sport when it comes to having fun I. E. We don't bargain.
So why not let the forum be to that and not go about citing incidents to run down nationalities. This is not a politically oriented forum.
So lets stick to the fun and share experiences that are relevant to the forum.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212; 1431795]India has one of the largest populations of illiterates in the world. I think its currently 74. Considerably lower with women but we are not discussing Indian women here. Basic literacy includes counting change in stores, road signs and not much more. In fact many couldn't even sign their name as you are well aware having grown up there. With 1. 2 billion people, half men and 26% of those illiterate, that equates to roughly 156 Million illerate people – that's more than the entire population of Japan by more than 20 million.
Despite this, these people continue to breath, live, exist and in fact some travel. If only a small portion of these people traveled to Thailand (a world recognized sex capital) then with only basic literacy how could they possible be expected to assimilate or even know how to behave in a culture so different than their own country, different in fact than almost any other country on earth. Look at how some aussies behave and their literacy rate is 99.
Having said that now YOU explain why it is such an accepted Thai practice to discriminate against Indians. It's not the money as Thais love money as we all do. And in fact any bar that actually needed more business would not turn away business, even from Indians.
You may be the exception as are hundreds of millions of your countrymen however your 'normal' behavior is just that – normal. And 'normal' behavior is not likely to change perceptions. In fact normal behavior is rarely noticed but abnormal behavior does and that's what we are seeing in the Land of Smiles.
Illiteracy is still killing your country.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Asianpussylover; 1431181]Hey guys I just got this in my email box so I am reposting it here. Please let me know how it went, I wish I could be there.
We are organising an annual all street party on the 8th and 9th of June. That is a Saturday and Sunday.
This party is located in soi 6 in Pattaya, please pop down with a group of guys.[/QUOTE]Everyone knows Soi 6 is an everyday party town so this was essentially like having a party at a party. They did add lots of balloons in front of the bars and were popping them all day. They said they did not want to advertise this event but the Pattaya news people were there with their cameras and news truck so the story may be in the news next week. All in all, lots of noise and maybe more festive than usual but I'm sure they will say it was a success.
More and more the bars are disappearing from the Soi and are being replaced with convenience stores, food stalls / restaurant, tailor shop, beauty salons and several other types of businesses. Lots of families out, some eating in some of the shops and taking in the view. Number one Massage at the end of the Soi is now half of what it used to be, they said the rent was too expensive so they placed a divider wall in the shop. I always though they were doing well but guess not. The place next door is vacant if anyone has money to burn.
[quote=superboy1; 1431847]does anyone know any girls or where i can find girls that do extreme fetish? for example [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and rep001.
i have try the devils den, but no luck. thai girls tend to be very shy when it come to that kind of stuff.
feel free to private message me.[/quote]what is rep001?
[quote=tony hoeprano;1431971]what is rep001?[/quote]rep001 = shit / [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113][CodeWord113][/url] / [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord114][CodeWord114][/url] play.
[quote=superboy1; 1431847]does anyone know any girls or where i can find girls that do extreme fetish? for example [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and rep001.
i have try the devils den, but no luck. thai girls tend to be very shy when it come to that kind of stuff.
feel free to private message me.[/quote]some of the girls at dd will [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] on you, some will [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in your mouth and some will let you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] on them. check the website. alyssa, bree, cake, dana, gik, holly, jenna, lexi, luck, maggie, monica, nikki, pam, sandra, sasha, and susi all either give [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] or receive it according to the dd website and in my experience the girls will do it and giggle about it even though they are not neccessarily "into it". if you email dd detailing your desires they will arrange a session according to your specification. i did just this recently and it went perfectly, i could not have been more satisfied.
if you want to be on the receiving end of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117][CodeWord117][/url] or hardsports (rep001) with someone who enjoys doing it or who will at least convincingly pretend that they enjoy doing it you will probably need to see a mistress, here is a place i am planning to visit next time i am in bkk:
[url]http://www.thaimistress.net/dungeon/[/url]
if you are looking to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] on someone they have slaves on that midori site and on other sites around the net (just google bangkok mistress and browse) who might be willing to receive, if you want to be on the giving end of hardsports you might be shit out of luck (sorry) , maybe try posting on craigslist but really finding a woman who will let you do that to her is going to take a lot of searching and / or a shitload of money (sorry). i have seen some thai videos featuring this kind of action so i know it is not impossible to find but it is a pretty rare fetish.
[QUOTE=Bunky; 1431879]Perhaps the Thai speakers could help me with pronouncing this properly? I assume "khoon" rhymes with "June" as that word is commonly pronounced in English. But how to pronounced "suay." Does it sound like "sway?" Or perhaps it sounds like "soo-ay."
Any assistance appreciated. I want to be able to flirt with the girls in their native tongue.
Bunky[/QUOTE]A few weeks ago I saw this on the General Thread and decided to check it out. The years I've been here I've in the past taken classes on and off and speak Thai enough to get by more than enough maybe too much? I wanted to do something on my own time so I decided to check it out.
It was very good and helpful in helping me read some Thai which I was never able to do. It has help me fine tune what I already learned and help me move forward with some new things. Although I'm not into to talking dirty to the girls but a few have been impressed that I knew what they were talking about and added in my two cents for a good impression.
[url]www.[/url] Thailanguageflashcards. Com
Your postings are nice and easy to read, and the pics are great, the slight defocusing on girl's face does not subtract anything to they beauty while protecting their privacy, I can imagine in few years from now they could say to a future boyfriend that finds out,"Oh! Many Thai lady beatiful same same, you know!".
I can add a little to the ongoing disco scene, I came back in town yesterday and it seems all is good right now. The weather is also very nice, allowing a good tanning and good time at the beach. My issue with Pattaya is that even without loving it at all, I have my streaks of luck and are able to exploit it in most cases. So I will spend some time here before moving on, destination unknown.
At about 2am I hit "Car on the Wall" that is always high on my list. Saw a pretty girl I've been with standing by the wall in the same exact spot of three months ago, but I had no intersted in repeating. Honestly there weren't too many good looking girls, perhaps one would have had to hit on the ones standing in groups, but that is a game better suited for when you're in a group yourself, just to make the vibes flow, as often these girls are out mainly to party. But if you look carefully at the ladies standing by a table, sometime you can see that they are not friends, just sharing the table. And if one girls is in reality alone, she will take almost any man that comes to her.
I'm saying that because at the disco, in many cases, the ladies advocates the right of choice, so refusal can, and do happen, in my view that makes the game even more fun.
On the same note I recommend to always get some definite feeling about the girl mood before taking her to your room. That can be a little groping or dancing on talking, to see what she is up to. I hooked a little with a skinny one, she would almost dance but wasn't really enticing to me. We walked out and spoke a little, she did not seemed very eager to satisfy, mentioned something about her family, and "up to you". These are classic negative signs, I said I was sorry and walked back, She was a bit pissed and asked 200 bt for having took her bike out of parking, I just kept walking.
Another misunderstanding happened at Lucifer a little after. Approached by a girl that was nice and friendly with a great smile and clavage, as we walk out she mentions she wanted 5 thousand and 5 hundreds. I must have been a little distracted to not undertsand that there was a misunderstanding there, so I dropped her there and took a long tour including a beach road inspection. It was late already and not finding anything of interest I then came back to Lucifer just in time to see the girl walking out hand in hand with a large guy. I kept a straight face but she told me to "fuck you", but she did a nice way. There they stood a little the the guys walks out and she come to me with a face of not understanding her own situation.
It was then clarified that the request was for 1500 but she would go for 1000. I took her up while the other guy supposedly went to buy ice. In the room she proved to have a good attitude, no towel rolls and without being a tiger she did most things right, had a very pretty face with a set of large superfirm melons that are not tasted vey often.
I would love to say I had unlimited sex for that little money but that was not the case ans I then added 500 for Long time upgrade, but as long things are reasonable, all is good with me.
Hello,
I cannot describe how to pronounce it. But if you pronounce suay the wrong way you can end up with a word that has meaning like broken down or demolished. The one meaning beautiful sounds more nice to me, kind of melodic. I am sure there are some people who can teach you the right one. Just ask the hotel staff. Greetings, Frits
[QUOTE The place next door is vacant if anyone has money to burn.[/QUOTE]. Maybe we can get a group of guys to form a partnership and offer fractional ownership to everyone. I for one would not mind bedding down the girls as part of the ownership package. Who else likes this idea?
[QUOTE=Bunky; 1431879]Perhaps the Thai speakers could help me with pronouncing this properly? I assume "khoon" rhymes with "June" as that word is commonly pronounced in English. But how to pronounced "suay." Does it sound like "sway?" Or perhaps it sounds like "soo-ay."
Any assistance appreciated. I want to be able to flirt with the girls in their native tongue.
Bunky[/QUOTE]It's sort of like soo-ay (ay as in bay) with rising inflection.
Definitely not sway.
Leave off the rising tone and you'll get a slang word for bad luck.
I woke up on my final full day in Pattaya and decided to tidy up the mess from the night before. Firstly I apologised to the security guard. Although I hadn't raised my voice when he refused to let Annie enter because she didn't have her I'd, I had laboured the point and he was only doing his job. I shook his hand and it ended all smiles. Then I went to Beach Road and bought a gift for Annie. Her tears weren't directly my fault but I still felt bad. I'the hand it to her in person later.
Macca and Owen had arranged an afternoon bar-crawl on SOI 6 which sounded good fun to me. It cost 10 baht to get there on songthaew and I immediately saw Macca, Owen and Conny at a bar at the top of the street. I bought myself a drink and Macca asked 'How did last night go? '
I explained the frustrating way the night unfolded and he told me that he had seen Annie on a songthaew with a customer. I had suspected as much and now Macca confirmed it. I didn't mind though. I never begrudge a working girl making an honest buck, she probably just wanted to squeeze a quick short-time in before our pre-arranged meeting. 'She didn't look very happy' said Macca and I wondered whether that was because she recognised Macca and Owen and knew that word would get back to me. Oddly, some working girls don't like to be seen as 'butterflies'.
I did some quick mental calculations. Macca and Owen had seen Annie leaving with a customer on a songthaew at 1. 30am but she was back at Glasshouse at 2. 45am. That meant the maximum amount of time that she spent with the customer was an hour (taking in to account getting to and from his hotel). Nobody bar-fines a girl from a Walking Street gogo bar for just an hour so she obviously had the same I'd problems with the other customer. That could explain why she was so upset. She'the missed out on two 1500 baht pay-outs because she had forgotten her Id card. It made sense.
The bar next to us was THAI ROSE, where I fucked a young cutie four years earlier. It had 10 girls outside, all of whom were better looking than the girls I'the seen on my unsuccessful recee on Wednesday. We finished our drinks and decided to walk to the bottom of Soi 6 and then walk back up, stopping at various bars along the way. We walked past the tall post-op ladyboy I saw on Soi 6. 1. Much to my embarrassment she said 'Hey I remember you! ' before pulling up her skirt again. Owen nearly vomited.
Conny chose RED POINT BAR. We were shown inside and the air-con was welcome given the blistering afternoon heat. It was dark and difficult to see any girls. When my eyes adjusted to the darkness I realised that the reason I couldn't see any girls was because there weren't any to see! It was empty. There was a small stage next to us with chrome poles so I wondered whether perhaps Conny had tried to arrange for some girls to dance for us but obviously there had been crossed wires because the girls stayed outside and left us alone to chat inside. It certainly wasn't what we were hoping for.
Next we went to RUBY CLUB which was much better. It was open-sided so was a good place to watch the action on the street. It had a large flat-screen TV connected to the internet and Macca enjoyed being DJ. The girls tapped their feet to his tunes. At one point he played a video of himself singing and I told the girl sitting on my knee that he was a 'pop-star in England'. Owen played his Pattaya youtube clip, comprising of lots of photos of bar-girls to music. The girls sang along to the 'Pa-tay-ya, Pat-tay-ya' song.
I bought a drink for Ru, a 7/10 with a sexy body who took great pleasure in rubbing my crotch until I was hard. Conny had his arms around a sweet-looking girl and Owen was chatting with a smily girl who seemed his type. I realised that this is how Soi 6 is best enjoyed. It's a good place to go for a few drinks with your friends and have a good time with the girls. If you see one you like you have the option of taking them upstairs.
Nearby a short, tubby man in a baseball cap had a bar-girl on his knee. 'Where you from? ' I heard her ask. 'USA' he replied proudly. 'UK? ' she asked. 'No! USA A' he said, spelling each letter out, 'none of this UK bull-shit'. At that moment he caught me looking at him and said 'hi' sheepishly. I just smiled. It amazes me the pent-up aggression that some people have. It transmits to the girls too and I could tell that she didn't like him.
Girls made space for us to sit outside FULL MOON BAR. There were six average girls and a below average one who tried to put her hand down Macca's trousers. Fondling is okay but only when you've shown an interest! On the table next to us were two white women, one middle-aged and the other in her twenties. They looked like mother and daughter but why would they be on Soi 6? Perhaps they were lesbians looking for a bisexual girl. Whatever, having two women sat next to us felt strange. I felt I had to be on my best behaviour.
THAI ROSE has the highest concentration of young girls. We were shown inside to a couch near the door. There wasn't much space so I made room by letting a girl sit on my knee. Her name was Nui and at first I thought she was shy but a waitress told me 'she new, no speak English'. I bought her a drink anyway. She wasn't my type but it's worth the price of a drink to have a cutie sat on my knee. Macca was chatting with an extremely pretty girl who was dressed differently from the other girls (she had taken our drinks order when we walked in). Macca was clearly interested but she told him that she doesn't go with customers. Conny meanwhile was miming fucking a girl doggy-style bent over a stool.
Time was marching on. It was 7. 30pm and I wanted to meet Annie at Glasshouse at 9pm. I told the guys that I'the meet them later, paid my bill and left. I needed to find a girl as quickly as possible. Within 30 seconds I saw a foxy older girl sitting on a stool in front of BUTTERFLY BAR. I stopped and said hello. She had a nice smile and I decided instantly she'the be my girl. We went inside and as we waited for our drinks, we kissed and she stroked my cock. I told her that I'the like to take her to a room upstairs. The room cost 300 baht and it was 700 for the girl. He name was Ja and she was 30 years old.
'Watch your head' she said as we walked up the stairs to a basic room. It was dark with no natural light but the bed was cleanly made and there was air-con. We got undressed and she used her experience to give me a really good blowjob. She then rode me while kissing me before I threw her on to her back and fucked her hard in mish. Enough of all of the girlfriend sex I had recently, this was frantic porn-style sex. We fucked in lots of positions and she loved being spooned from the side nice and deep. I fucked her doggy-style before I took my condom off and invited her to suck me again. She had great skills and when she heard me coming, she leaned back and laughed when I shot my load up to my neck.
I gave her a 200 baht tip before I left. On the walk back to my hotel I felt pleased. Finally I had reached my goal of fucking 20 girls in a trip and with a day to spare too. Furthermore I'the had an enjoyable quickie with a foxy older girl for just 1200 baht, including tip! I'the enjoyed my afternoon on Soi 6 and loved the sleaziness that just five minutes after I had met Ja on the street, we were fucking in a room upstairs.
I stopped for a sandwich at Subway on the way back. At my hotel I had a quick shower and put on some clean clothes before heading out to Walking Street with the handbag I'the bought Annie. There was due to be a big celebration in Pattaya over the weekend, including a televised pop concert, so there were market stalls all the way along Beach Road. The large crowds had scared off most of the freelancers.
I arrived at GLASSHOUSE at 9pm. Annie wasn't standing outside so I walked in. I couldn't see her but the mamasan recognised me and said 'Annie not arrived'. Last night Annie had told me to come back at 9pm so I wondered whether she'the already been bar-fined. I bought myself a drink, sat down and crossed my fingers. Six girls were dancing on stage including a few fantastic lookers. Number 80 smiled at me cutely and 72 was very easy on the eye too. Glasshouse has got some very pretty girls, there's no doubt about it. At one point the bartender served all of the girls a shot of tequila, a tactic gogo bars use to relax their girls.
I waited for half an hour before the mamasan came up to me and said 'If not here now, Annie not here tonight'. I asked whether she had Annie's phone number but she told me that she didn't. I found that quite strange. She went to speak with a pretty girl who was Annie's best friend at the bar but she didn't have Annie's number either. It dawned on me that Annie wasn't coming and since I was leaving Pattaya tomorrow morning, I wouldn't see her again.
I asked for a pen and paper and wrote Annie a note which I put in the handbag. I gave the handbag to the mamasan and asked her to give it to Annie when she next came in. I made sure I did this in front of Annie's friend, to ensure that the mamasan didn't keep it for herself.
I had hoped to bar-fine Annie but unexpectedly I now had a free night ahead of me. I sent a text message to Owen to see where he and Macca were. I could visit a few more gogo bars while waiting for his reply.
At 10. 20pm I entered SUPER BABY which is down a side street off Walking Street. 14 topless young girls were on stage and a 9/10 lathered herself with soap in a jacuzzi. Some lovely girls were sitting with customers. This bar is popular with Japanese customers (unsurprising given its name) and is Japanese owned too, which explains why I was served by a girl wearing a kimono. As a result it might be harder for Westerners to bar-fine the hottest girls. The bar-fine is 600 baht.
Opposite the entrance to Super Baby are a few beer bars, including a few on a revolving stage. They are probably best avoided if you've had too many beers.
Above Super Baby is HEAVEN ABOVE. Amusingly the words 'Stairway to Heaven' were written on the steps. There were 20 topless girls crowded on to a small stage. The bar doesn't have the best layout with the majority of the seats facing the end of the stage but fortunately I managed to get a good vantage point. A tall, dark skinned girl wearing a number 12 badge walked past who was spectacularly pretty. She had a dazzling face and I almost melted when she flashed me a perfect smile. Wow. A pale-skinned girl with fair hair danced on a table right next to my seat who had the most perfect tits imaginable. Heaven Above has definitely got plenty of angels.
I felt a buzz in my pocket and checked my phone. It was Owen telling me that he and Macca were on Soi Diana. Tonight was my last night in Pattaya so I wanted to meet them one last time to say goodbye. I looked at the 10/10 girl. She would undoubtedly be a trophy fuck but mates come first. I paid my chit and left. I was impressed with Heaven Above. Not only did it have pretty girls, they seemed friendly too. The bar-fine ranges from 600 to 900 baht depending on the girl.
On the way up Walking Street I saw Annie's best friend standing outside Glasshouse. I said hello and told her 'make sure Annie gets my present'. She smiled and told me that she would.
I felt sad to leave Walking Street. Although it is pricy and has far too many regular tourists, it's an exciting place with many beautiful girls. It was a shame therefore that my last sight of it was the most masculine looking ladyboy I have ever seen. Some ladyboys can be very convincing but this one looked like a Tonga rugby player in a wig.
It took ten minutes to walk to Soi Diana. The guys were perched on stools at BAR TOMAS, exchanging banter with three young girls. Owen was testing his Thai on the prettiest. I'll miss bars like this when I'm back in England. They have non-commercial girl-next-door types and they never pressure you to buy them drinks. They are relaxed places to go for a beer and get to know the girls. I noticed a very pretty specimen outside a small bar on the opposite side of the street. She was very leggy and her green dress revealed an incredible hourglass figure. 'Do you think that's a ladyboy? ' I asked Macca and he responded 'of course! ' as if I had asked the craziest question in the world. His radar is obviously more finely tuned than mine.
It was my last night in Pattaya and the guys offered to take me on another gogo crawl, this time around the Soi LK Metro area. They suggested we go to OASIS first and I decided to roll with it. It is located on Soi Buakhao but there were only six average girls dancing. A few pretty ones were dotted around the bar sitting with customers but the place felt sleepy compared to the bars I'the visited earlier in the night on Walking Street.
We quickly finished our drinks and went to SUGAR SUGAR, so sweet they named it twice. There were eight girls on stage and lots more sitting with customers. The girls left the stage and a hottie wearing angel wings did a routine that culminated in her pulling a long ribbon out of her pussy. After that had finished, three naked girls went on stage and poured soapy water over each other before writhing about in the suds. I like bars that make an effort with these kind of shows. I noticed a blond girl with tattoos who had a hardcore edge about her. I thought that she'the be a good way to end my time in Pattaya so she was added on to my mental shortlist.
We turned in to Soi LK Metro and entered SUBMARINE. It's a very small gogo bar in keeping with its name. There were five girls dancing on five round tables and although the talent was average, a pretty young waitress walked past wearing an army uniform. I smiled to her and she came and sat next to me. She was a great looking girl with a fresh-faced innocence that reminded me of Annie without the piercings. I bought her a lady-drink and she told me that her name was Noy. Facially she was exactly the kind of girl I was looking for but sadly she didn't smile much. Her lack of personality suggested that she'the probably be a starfish if I bar-fined her. It was a shame that she wasn't as much fun as the hyper little bar-maid who was joking with Macca and Owen. Yet when I stood up to leave, Noy surprised me by giving me a big hug. 'Nice to meet you' she said with a smile. I wondered why she hadn't shown such warmth earlier. It was as if someone had flicked her 'personality switch' at the last minute.
It was 1. 30am. I decided to try a few more bars in Soi LK Metro and if I didn't find a girl, I'the either go back to Sugar Sugar and bar-fine the blond or return to Walking Street and see if the 10/10 was still in Heaven Above. I also had a few more options from previous nights, including Kin from Happy Gogo.
We went to QUEEN next. Six naked girls were dancing on a large stage and we got 'ring-side' seats. I was hypnotised by their nubile young bodies and pert breasts. These places are always worth a visit for the price of a drink. One negative of Queen is that it is very smoky, unsurprising as several customers were puffing shisha pipes.
Next we went to THE OFFICE where 10 girls were dancing, four of whom were very pretty. Which one would I invite down for a lady-drink? All were extremely bar-fineable but I chose a girl who had the winning combination of good looks, a perfect body and suggestive dancing. She sat next to me and I offered her a drink. Her name was Bim, she was 20 years old and she was breathtakingly pretty up close. After a brief chat I asked about bar-fining her but she said 'I go friends birthday tonight, come tomorrow, okay? '. I told her I was leaving tomorrow and she made a sad face. It felt like sand running through my fingers! She seemed to be telling the truth because a few minutes later she left with four other girls. Although I was extremely impressed with the girls at The Office, the talent level dipped considerably after 2am.
Macca and Owen told me that they had time to visit just one more bar before the football match they wanted to watch kicked off. I chose the promisingly named SHOWGIRLS. We were ushered to a cubicle in front of the stage on which seven average looking girls danced. On closer inspection one of them was quite cute and had the kind of voluptuous figure I like. I invited her to join me for a drink and she sat on my lap. She was cute and giggly and very proud of her fake tits, inviting me to have a feel. Macca couldn't resist sampling the goods himself.
He name was Bo and she was 23. She might not have been the prettiest girl in Pattaya but she had an infectious personality, a curvy body and was very different to other girls I'the taken on this trip. I don't like to always go with the same kind of girls, I like to mix things up. It was also late and I had to be up early next morning so I decided to talk numbers. The bar-fine was a hefty 800 baht and she quoted 1500 baht for short-time. It's a deal.
She went to get changed and I said goodbye to Macca and Owen. I'the really enjoyed their company during my time in Pattaya and they had really opened my eyes to what the place has to offer. I hoped I'the be seeing them again soon.
Before Owen left, he had a disagreement with a girl he had been sat with. She had cheekily ordered herself a lady-drink and when Owen rightly refused to pay, she got angry with him. The guys left and for some reason the girl took her anger out on me. I tried to calm her down but she pulled a V-sign in to my face. I've never seen a girl do that, let alone in Thailand where 'loss of face' is such an issue.
A young waitress could see that I was offended and said something sharply to the girl who slumped back in to her seat and folded her arms like a naughty child. I would have complained to the management but at that moment Bo returned wearing her casual clothes. It was my last night and I didn't want to ruin it. We shared a motorbike back to my hotel and held hands as we walked to my room.
Initially it seemed that the sex might be a let-down. Firstly she took half an hour in the shower as if she was putting the main event off. I didn't mind as sometimes girls take advantage of the facilities that nice hotels have to offer, like hot showers for example. I waited patiently on the bed.
When she came out of the bathroom she was wrapped in a towel and turned the lights off. She then crawled in to bed and pulled the covers over us. Sometimes girls get shy when they get in to the bedroom so I cuddled up to her and kissed her on the lips. Barely ten seconds later she said 'you pay me first? '. This set the alarm bells ringing. Girls usually only insist that you pay upfront if they think you might not pay when the clothes come off. The thought entered my head that maybe she was a ladyboy, after all, she had large fake tits. I promised her that I'the pay afterwards ('with a tip if you make me smile') and she agreed.
Things picked up. I unwrapped her towel and fortunately she didn't have a hidden surprise between her legs. Her breasts were double D's and although I'm not normally a fan of fake tits, hers felt great. She asked 'you have condom? '. I told her that I did and she said 'where? '. I wondered whether she was new to the industry or maybe she had been mis-treated by a customer in the past. She seemed nervous and had trust issues.
She knelt across me and her breasts pressed against my leg as she gave me an excellent blowjob. She licked me like a lollipop, then sucked deep. We fucked in a variety of positions, the highlight of which was doggy-style on the end of the bed, me slapping in to that soft, round arse of hers as I reached around and cupped her big tits. She rode me to completion and then lay on top of me as we got our breaths back. After a minute she leaned upright and said 'again! ' with a cheeky smile while grinding her hips on mine.
She asked 'I go now? ' and I let her. It meant that I hadn't taken any girls for long-time on the whole trip. That was largely down to price but also the fact that in Bangkok, Phnom Penh and Pattaya, I was aiming to fuck two girls a day and I didn't want fatigue to catch up with me. Nevertheless, I enjoy falling asleep arm-in-arm with a beautiful girl and fucking her again in the morning. Long-time is when the real girlfriend experience can be found.
I considered getting changed and rushing out to find one last girl in Pattaya but it was 3am and I was tired after another long night. I had to pack and get an early bus to Bangkok tomorrow. I hoped I would be able to squeeze a visit to a massage parlour in before my flight home.
NOTE: the last day of my diary will be on the Bangkok thread tomorrow.
Previous reports in Bangkok forum.
It was around 9 am when I suddenly got up, took quick shower and went down to meet Inn owner. He suggested me to go to hua lamphong station and then change BTS to reach ekkamai station where transportation centre was. Well, it looks odd to me carrying luggage in metro trains causing inconvenience to other passengers. In last 3 days I happened to see 4 people carrying suitcases in train. Anyhow I took taxi from Chinatown to ekkamai – 80 baths.
Why I was going to Pattaya? City of old, ugly looking dark girls of issan, most of whom will go for blowjob at drop of hat and probably without protection. Anyhow I boarded bus at 10 am depressed and without enthusiasm. My hotel was in in LKMetro area. The English owner welcomed me and I made myself comfortable in room on second floor. 500 baths. Simple room. Around 1 pm I walked to Soi Honey, keen to see upto you massage. I had seen it in you tube and girls looked pretty. First was paradise and then up to you massage. Nothing attractive at that hour. Further going towards beach, I noticed many massage centers. Not very attractive girls but only consolation was they were inviting for massage. I was physically exhausted. I noticed very plain looking girl with make up. She was playing cards. I approached her and asked for traditional massage. She took me inside. I repeated that I am not interested in any extras. She started massaging and had very good skill. She worked for full one hour sincerely. I asked her rates of extras. 500, 1000 and 1500. I gave her 300. She accepted 100 baht tip without any expression. I said hello to her cat and walked out with plan to scan soi6.
Around 2. 45 pm I entered soi 6 with high hopes. On net it looked beautiful girls. It was big disappointment to see girls sitting with expression of come –fuck – any hole-pay-and go. Face with gaudy make up and looking at legs and thighs it seemed no fair girl there. I quickly walked to wards beach road and started going to walking street entrance. Looking at freelancers on the way. Very few at that hour and mostly 2 or3/10 and few below zero. Close to waking street, there was sitting one small statured baby faced girl. I enquired and she mentioned 500 bath for one hour and offered normal sex and CBJ and no anal. She said bye bye to her friend after buying one toothbrush, I took her to LKmetro on motorbike (60bath). She did not where LK Metro is. In the room she took bath. She took permission to open water bottle. We had lot of kissing hugging and my hand wandered everywhere. She repeatedly asked me whether I am happy. She cheered up when I said yes. Her story was simple. She was on road from last 6 months. She came as friend brought her. She had 3 year old baby and father had left them. She has to support her mother and baby.
I gave her 1000 note and asked for change. After a brief silence she informed me that she has got 120 baht. As she and her friend were penniless, they had no lunch and they came today at 4 pm. Usually they come at 6 pm. I gave her 600 baht. I believe her and her story.
To be continued
[QUOTE=Fritsvanegter; 1432113]Hello,
I cannot describe how to pronounce it. But if you pronounce suay the wrong way you can end up with a word that has meaning like broken down or demolished. The one meaning beautiful sounds more nice to me, kind of melodic. I am sure there are some people who can teach you the right one. Just ask the hotel staff. Greetings, Frits[/QUOTE]Precisely correct thats why I say learn to speak Thai by hearing it, not by reading it.
[QUOTE=IndianVisit;1432248]City of old, ugly looking dark girls of issan, most of whom will go for blowjob at drop of hat and probably without protection.[/QUOTE]You haven't seen many Isaan girls, and have a skin color prejudice, that's for sure.
Thanks to reports from users like Sir Lancelot, I'm beginning to really feel the vibe of Pattaya and plan out where to go and how to budget my trip.
A few questions came to mind though:
1.) What's the difference between a beer bar and a go-go bar? Both of them have bar fines, but it seems like beer bars are cheaper and less pushy for you to buy girls drinks.
How would I be able to tell the difference based on the aesthetics?
2.) Correct me if I'm wrong but, I know that LT prices usually mean overnight, and that means more than two pops. How about ST? That's usually 1 or 2 hours, but does it also end after your first pop?
Well my intentions was to spend time with my regular girl in Centre Point Hotel terminal 21 but she did get a call this early morning made me somewhat disturb as she had to fly out to Hong Kong to attend some meetings of some sort. I didn't have time to investigate this further and in a blink of an eye after she left this morning I was in the car at 12:25pm and in my LK Empress hotel room in Pattis almost exactly 2 hours later (not even a full 2 hours) very effective driver, nice and powerful SUV and no traffic worth mentioning except som roadwork approx around Chonburi somewhere.
I have to say they have destroyed Beachroad quite a bit. But I guess walking on gravel or paved surface realy doesn't matter when the goal is to hit up a Beachroad girl. I am exited again so maby good thing will come out of this after all. I have predicted mostly to my self to lower my mongering a tad due to unforseene happenings but I can allways wait until I get home on Thursday.
[QUOTE=IndianVisit;1432248]City of old, ugly looking dark girls of issan, most of whom will go for blowjob at drop of hat and probably without protection.[/QUOTE]First of all let me thank you for taking ...[QUOTE=IndianVisit;1432248]I gave her 1000 note and asked for change.[/QUOTE]Just some friendly advice, if I were you I would keep small notes ready in your safe so you could Always pay the girl an exact amount of money. You are setting yourself up for disaster here as most girls won't carry change. Also if you happen to have a "bad" one she might try to keep the whole 1000 note.
Just to avoid such a situation make sure you change any large notes at your hotel lobby into smaller bills, I've never had problems doing this in any hotel and at no service costs.
One member once said he always keeps 3000 baht in small notes in the front of his hotelroom safe, this way you can always pay the girl quickly and correctly, I think it's good advice.
Cheers,
Airlinecrew
Within 20 minutes I was again on beach road. There were now better looking girls. I found another girl which was not very young. She looked 24 to 26. Talked to her. Nice talk. Wanted 700. I agreed. Again motorcycle taxi to LK metro area. At accommodation there were few girls at bar. I felt I was being noticed. I avoided their stare and ignoring reception, I went upstairs. It was good session with her. After one hour she left after giving me her digits.
My next plan was to visit Soapy. Seeing YouTube I had planned for Rasputin? Soapy massage. IT looked expensive when I read reviews. If the services not good then it will be waste of money. I went to Sabai Dee. So many girls waving hands. I made same mistake about asking the help of asking the man standing there. He went to ask the girls whom looked beautiful to me. There was confusion. One girl just in front in 3rd row was getting restless. Cost was 2000. Tips etc made total damage 2500. The girl when she reached in room, I talked to her. She said she understands. She told me that she had similar customer. I joked then he must be my lost brother. She laughed. He was Korean. There was same ritual of soapy massage of cleaning and some body to body and then we were on bed. She did not spend much time in giving bath to me and said that you are pretty clean. She was unhappy with her job. Very boring. I have found when a woman becomes comfortable in your company then she will start talking personal things. My teeth needs filling or last week I had bad loose motions. Now this girl told me that she was not good looking and had silicone in nose. She asked me to touch it. She wanted to get corrected as it has displaced a bit. After one hour of satisfactory session there was time to depart. She gave me her number. Before departing I told her that I will kiss her the most beautiful part of her body. She looked perplexed. I kissed her nose and left. She came from behind and held my shirt. Please do call me when soever you feel.
Outside I took motorcycle taxi. 70 baht for entrance to walking street. I gave him 100 baht note. He said that he has not change and vanished in crowded traffic.
[QUOTE=AirlineCrew;1432433]First of all let me thank you for taking .[/QUOTE]Well let me just say then that I agree with Marcos. I do enjoy your reports Indianvisit but I can't agree with what you said about dark Asian girls.
7:45 pm. walking street was warming up. i strolled to beach road. around 200 meters down i saw a chinese looking girl. sitting with her friend. chatted with her for few minutes. she was expecting 600 bahts. she had no problems with my preferences. she took me to st hotel close to 7/11 nearby. i also do not want to go to my hotel. third girl to be taken to same hotel was somehow uncomfortable. secondly 140 baht would have been motorcycle ride. it was ok type of place. she took bath and i enjoyed her one hr. she was half thai and half chinese. father was chinese and she came from some area close to bangkok. her husband died in accident and she was 31years old. she said that it seems you have not been breastfed the way you are kissing everywhere. but in that situation you should have been smoker and you are not. comments from streetwalker. she put her number in my diary and we both separated. both satisfied.
walking street was at its peek. after reading internet i was confused which place to go. one recommends a and criticizes b and another reports the opposite, anyhow i visited baccara, happy agogo and windmill. i stayed for 10 minutes in each. asked for cola everywhere as i usually don't drink beer / alcohol. i was careful about slip and checked if not overcharged. for me happy agogo had good line up, the best among i visited. banana show was nauseating. one girl in one agogo before windmill was very pretty. i am forgetting the name but i remember location. i bought one lady drink for her. she came twice in between dance. good vibes. she gave me her number if i want to call her later as i was not keen for steep bar fine. at one bar, forgetting name, which was in place where public toilets written on the left side. i was stopped entering as i was indian. i smiled and came back on walking street.
i did saw one beautiful girl in one open bar with around 50 girls there. i took sometime to confirm she is really beautful and by the time i reached someother person occupied the place.
i saw another very pretty lady on street. i confirmed that she ws not ladyboy. she asked for 1000 for short time. on listening to the menu i suggested, she got confused. and refused. another good looking girl asked for 2000 baht. i moved on. after 2 hrs she will come to 1500 or less. i do not negotiate. it means that she is overcharging. after negotiation mostly services are not good. hence no negotiation and move on.
Around midnight, I was in double mind. To stay at walking street and later to go to insomnia whereas per reports you may get good lookers at reasonable rates. Or to go LK Metro where there were enough gogo bars and close to my place. More comfortable and convenient. Suddenly I saw in crowd a girl slim short and looking young. Not so fair but no dressed nose with raised nostrils. I talked to her. Good at talk. She expected 1500. She took me to St hotel in middle of walking street on left side. Slightly costly. 350 if I remember. She took bath and we shared bed. I saw putting diaphragm. I think for both holes. We had long session of DFK. In between she while kissing my body lowered her to nipples and abdomen. She suddenly took younger brother in mouth. Without umbrella a. I pushed her and asked her to mouth wash. We again started kissing. After 10 minutes, she again repeated the thing. Now I kept mum as it was already in her mouth. Before I could come, I pushed her head away but she resisted and it was what you call CIM. She got up and I saw her going to bathroom, I was expecting to spit and mouthwash. She stopped near table and started drinking water. She turned to me and smiled.
WE came out of hotel. On paper slip from hotel, she scribbled phone number and email I'd. She told me her face book address. Sat down in one corner for 10 minutes. Confused and oblivious of hustle bustle of walking street. I entered 7/11. She was there. I took one cold drink. Coming out I saw one Arab approach me. Are you from such and such place? He had recognized me. He knew me though I did not. He was living 150 km far away from my city. I excused myself and took motorcycle taxi to my place.
At hotel the main lady asked me how much and smiled. I said nothing much. How much spent today, I said around 8500. I had bought nothing from bar nor any lady drink There were few girls there. They had paid no attention when I came in afternoon. Actually I did not know the scene and system at such bar. It was hesitancy on my part.
First I went up. Opened the TV. Took bath. It took me another half hour to gather myself. I came down for scene at LK metro area. I counted money 1300 baht left, and Last 100 dollar note. The exchange at entrance of Soi was closed. It did not come to my mind that I could have seen 2/3 bars with baht in hand, if even no bar fine.
I went up and slept.
Last report follows
[QUOTE=DaniChan007; 1432418]Thanks to reports from users like Sir Lancelot, I'm beginning to really feel the vibe of Pattaya and plan out where to go and how to budget my trip...QUOTE]Hi. I'm glad my report helped you get in the mood for your trip.
Gogo bars and beer bars look very different. You have to enter a gogo bar (usually past several 'hello girls' standing outside) but beer-bars are usually open-sided so you can see the girls from the street. In gogo bars you watch girls dancing naked or semi-naked on stage but not in beer-bars. In gogo bars the girls / mamasan are usually (but not always) pushier for lady-drinks but beer-bars are much more relaxed. In gogo bars the emphasis is on you perving at the sexy girls dancing but in beer-bars it's more about having a relaxing drink and some banter with the girls. Generally the beer-bar girls will speak better English.
Drinks in gogo bars are generally more expensive but you get to see more of a 'show'. The bar-fine is generally about twice as much as the beer-bars. The girls charge more in the gogo bars too. From observation on my recent trip I'd say that a girl of a similar quality in a gogo bar will charge 500-1000 more for short-time than in a beer bar. Gogo bars generally have the younger, prettier girls but exceptions prevail. The prettiest girl I took on my trip was from a beer-bar. There is a slight difference in mentality too. I think gogo girls are more geared to short-time these days (in Thailand at least) but the beer-bar girls are stayers.
I've attached a pic of one of the beer bar complexes in Pattaya called 'Drinking Street' to give you an idea of what to expect. You simply walk around and if you see a girl you like, stop for a beer and get talking to her. If you like her, buy her a drink. If you still like her, bar-fine her for a cheap price.
I'd highly recommend exploring both types of venues. Go on 'gogo crawls' like I did and visit as many bars as possible. Not only will you see lots of pretty girls, it will help give you a real taste of what Pattaya has to offer. Then next night try some of the beer-bars. It's a more relaxed way to spend an evening and you'll certainly chat to more girls. In between visit some of the excellent massage parlours I visited.
But most importantly, make sure you post a report on here afterwards!
Sir lancelot.
I am familiar with all the stops on your tour, and visit Cambodia very regularly. I thoroughly enjoyed your reporting, and could well visualise myself in your place.
2 questions spring to mind.
1) Did at any time any of the girls offer bareback penetration, and did you accept?
2) Most.if not all of the girls provided you with blowjobs. Did you reciprocate?
[QUOTE=DaniChan007;1432418]1.) What's the difference between a beer bar and a go-go bar? Both of them have bar fines, but it seems like beer bars are cheaper and less pushy for you to buy girls drinks.?[/QUOTE]Yes and the other differences are quite obvious starting with the looks / ages of the girls.
[QUOTE=DaniChan007;1432418]2.) Correct me if I'm wrong but, I know that LT prices usually mean overnight, and that means more than two pops. How about ST? That's usually 1 or 2 hours, but does it also end after your first pop?[/QUOTE]Yes but ST is more like one hour not two.
[QUOTE=IndianVisit; 1432621]WE came out of hotel. On paper slip from hotel, she scribbled phone number and email I'd. She told me her face book address. Sat down in one corner for 10 minutes. Confused and oblivious of hustle bustle of walking street. I entered 7/11. She was there. I took one cold drink. Coming out I saw one Arab approach me. Are you from such and such place? He had recognized me. He knew me though I did not. He was living 150 km far away from my city. I excused myself and took motorcycle taxi to my place.
At hotel the main lady asked me how much and smiled. I said nothing much. How much spent today, I said around 8500. I had bought nothing from bar nor any lady drink There were few girls there. They had paid no attention when I came in afternoon. Actually I did not know the scene and system at such bar. It was hesitancy on my part.
First I went up. Opened the TV. Took bath. It took me another half hour to gather myself. I came down for scene at LK metro area. I counted money 1300 baht left, and Last 100 dollar note. The exchange at entrance of Soi was closed. It did not come to my mind that I could have seen 2/3 bars with baht in hand, if even no bar fine.
I went up and slept.
Last report follows[/QUOTE]It's very interesting to follow your reports.
It seems a common practice for a girl to give you phone numbers.
Thank you for your detail reports.
[QUOTE=Hbengkok;1432823]It seems a common practice for a girl to give you phone numbers.[/QUOTE]That is a part of doing business. If you want to make money then you better have a way for people to contact you.
[QUOTE=IndianVisit; 1432621]Around midnight, I was in double mind. I saw putting diaphragm.
Last report follows[/QUOTE]A diaphragm is an anti-conceptive. Never heard of one for the rear entrance and pretty much useless too.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1432830]I surmise its a sign of desperation! Please don't misread the exchanging of contact info![/QUOTE]You are kidding right? Girls handing out their phone numbers is not a sign of desperation, it's good business sense on their behalf. Almost every girl I have ever been with from a gogo bar or massage parlour in Thailand, Philippines and Indonesia has given me their phone number and on many occasions I have met them outside their place of work for a vastly reduced amount (usually 1500 short-time in Thailand, much less elsewhere). It suits me because it's cheaper and it suits them because the bar or massage parlour doesn't take a cut. Surely an experienced monger like yourself does this? It's beginners stuff. Or are you still stubbornly refusing to accept that the girls you pay top dollar for in Rainbow 4 will go with other customers for 1500 short-time because we had the common sense to get their mobile number? You're even more naïve than I thought (and I have to say, I thought you were exceptionally naïve in the first place).
[QUOTE=Harold444;1432715]If you got a quality type girl you hit the gold mine if you get 1 hour short time out of her![/QUOTE]You must be doing something wrong, Harold. At the risk of offending you, is there a hygiene problem? I don't mean to offend you but it is difficult to understand your perspective. I usually opt for overnight with some real beauties. I dunno maybe I am lucky or hansome.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1433138]You must be doing something wrong, Harold. At the risk of offending you, is there a hygiene problem?[/QUOTE]Like you I am starting to read between the lines in Harold's posts.
Apparently he never bar-fines gogo girls for less than 2500 baht in Bangkok. Everyone knows that's a girls starting price but they come down to 2000 without any resistance. Every girl I bar-fined in Bangkok did, every girl my friends have bar-fined in Bangkok did and it seems that the same applies for most on this forum. But seemingly not Harold. 2500 full stop. I'd say that's quite revealing.
He says that girls rarely stay over an hour with him. That strikes me as more than a little strange.
And then there is the phone number issue. He tells us he doesn't collect phone numbers. I've been practically forced by a Rainbow girl to type her number in to my phone. But not Harold.
The point I am making is that you CAN get hot girls for 2000 short-time from Rainbow 4, who stay with you for more than an hour, who gladly pass you their phone number for repeat business, IF the girl likes you. I have repeatedly, my friends have and lots of people on this forum have. The fact none of these things happen to Harold suggest he's about as charismatic in reality as he is behind his laptop.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1; 1432682]Sir lancelot.
I am familiar with all the stops on your tour, and visit Cambodia very regularly. I thoroughly enjoyed your reporting, and could well visualise myself in your place.
2 questions spring to mind.
1) Did at any time any of the girls offer bareback penetration, and did you accept?
2) Most. If not all of the girls provided you with blowjobs. Did you reciprocate?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the compliment. I was impressed with Phnom Penh, I will definitely return and explore the hostess bars more.
1. No girl offered bareback on this trip but that could be because I'm usually aching so much to have sex with them, I reach for the condom after just a few minutes of foreplay. I don't give them chance to offer it! Haha. But even if they did, it's not something that interests me. I remember once in Thailand bar-fining a girl from Soi Cowboy and my condom pinged as I was fucking her. I was uncovered inside her for about 0. 03 nanoseconds but paranoia swept over me for weeks afterwards so I went for a blood test when I got back. I don't like that kind of thing hanging over me so always use a condom.
2. Sometimes I will do it to please a girl but only if I take a girl for long-time, usually before the second pop. Because I only took girls for short-time on this trip, I didn't 'drink at the furry cup'. No wait. Come to think of it, I did once, to Aor in Annie's just before 'round two'. On the subject of oral, have you ever had a 'blowjob alarm call'? On my last trip to Philippines I met a really pretty freelancer in Angeles, as cute as a button and took her back to my room for long-time. However as the clothes came off she told me 'no boom-boom' (I speculated why not in my diary at the time on the Angeles thread). Anyway, I was disappointed but then she gave me one of the best blowjobs I have ever had and we curled up and fell asleep. Then I woke in the middle of the night and she was giving me another blowjob. Imagine waking up in complete darkness, feeling a girls warm mouth wrapped around your dick! She woke me up in the morning doing exactly the same. She swallowed each time too. I highly recommend it since you seem to be a blowjob fan.
Hi guys,
Sorry for my bad english, I'm not a native english speaker.
First of all, thanks for all your great comments, I've been reading all your posts from the last 6 months and learned a lot. It's a real pleasure to learn interesting and comprehensive info from you guys and I really appreciate those of you who take time to posts.
Although I've tried a couple of places in Bangkok few years ago, I've decided to go back for a trip in Bangkok and Pattaya. I'll be in Bangkok from the 3rd of July and will then leave to Pattaya on the 4th till the 8th where I've decided to stay at the Whitehouse Condotel. I'll then go back to Bangkok on the 8th to get my flight on the eveining of the 9th.
I'm going to do this trip alone and was wondering if any of you guys would be there during that period and If so I would be happy to share time, drinks and experiences with you.
If not, I would be happy to get the latest advices / must-go places from anyone.
I'll report back my experience after that trip that I really look forward to.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1433513]You full of buffalo manure.
The majority here are not fans of Rainbow girls if you didn't know.[/QUOTE]Something tells me that my last post hit a raw nerve?
On the Photo Gallery (when you'd finished saying that the girls I posted photos of were 'standard', an opinion not shared by the majority it seems) you revealed that you "don't go for stunners". Which is strange because you have told us that the girls you go with "won't go for less than 2500". That tells a story.
That's 500 more than I pay and almost everyone on this forum. Amusingly your explanation for this is that the girls you go for are of a higher quality (which contradicts your comment today that you "don't go for stunners"). You claim to be such an expert, sneering at anyone whose opinion differs from yours, and yet you routinely overpay for average girls.
Then, brilliantly, you told us yesterday that the girls you go with DICTATE to you when they can be bar-fined and even more revealingly, some won't stay with you for over an hour!
These clues make it clear that the girls don't like you. I wonder whether it's because you are as arrogant, objectionable and disrespectful in real life as you are on this forum. You talked today about a line-up being 'disgusting' and described a girl as a 'hound' on the Photo Gallery, a comment which was subsequently deleted. You've left countless other comments that hints towards a disdain for these girls. I wonder whether the girls pick up on your terrible attitude to women? It's a thought. Perhaps if they didn't you'd be able to get them for 2000 like everyone else and they'd stay for longer than the absolute bare minimum amount of time?
By the way, serious question, why are you on this thread? You have never been to Pattaya and you say you will never go because the girls are ugly, a conclusion you freely admit you arrived upon because a Bangkok gogo girl told you so.
What would you say the average bar fine in the gogo bar and bar bar is?
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1432676]
[QUOTE=DaniChan007; 1432418]Thanks to reports from users like Sir Lancelot, I'm beginning to really feel the vibe of Pattaya and plan out where to go and how to budget my trip. QUOTE]Hi. I'm glad my report helped you get in the mood for your trip.
Gogo bars and beer bars look very different. You have to enter a gogo bar (usually past several 'hello girls' standing outside) but beer-bars are usually open-sided so you can see the girls from the street. In gogo bars you watch girls dancing naked or semi-naked on stage but not in beer-bars. In gogo bars the girls / mamasan are usually (but not always) pushier for lady-drinks but beer-bars are much more relaxed. In gogo bars the emphasis is on you perving at the sexy girls dancing but in beer-bars it's more about having a relaxing drink and some banter with the girls. Generally the beer-bar girls will speak better English.
Drinks in gogo bars are generally more expensive but you get to see more of a 'show'. The bar-fine is generally about twice as much as the beer-bars. The girls charge more in the gogo bars too. From observation on my recent trip I'd say that a girl of a similar quality in a gogo bar will charge 500-1000 more for short-time than in a beer bar. Gogo bars generally have the younger, prettier girls but exceptions prevail. The prettiest girl I took on my trip was from a beer-bar. There is a slight difference in mentality too. I think gogo girls are more geared to short-time these days (in Thailand at least) but the beer-bar girls are stayers.
I've attached a pic of one of the beer bar complexes in Pattaya called 'Drinking Street' to give you an idea of what to expect. You simply walk around and if you see a girl you like, stop for a beer and get talking to her. If you like her, buy her a drink. If you still like her, bar-fine her for a cheap price.
I'd highly recommend exploring both types of venues. Go on 'gogo crawls' like I did and visit as many bars as possible. Not only will you see lots of pretty girls, it will help give you a real taste of what Pattaya has to offer. Then next night try some of the beer-bars. It's a more relaxed way to spend an evening and you'll certainly chat to more girls. In between visit some of the excellent massage parlours I visited.
But most importantly, make sure you post a report on here afterwards![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JayHighFive;1433842]What would you say the average bar fine in the gogo bar and bar bar is?[/QUOTE]In Pattaya the bar-fines are all over the place. Some are good value but other bars have a steep bar-fine of 1000 baht. Some bars slash their bar-fines after midnight which I think is a great idea for all involved. If I had to guess, I'd say the average bar-fine in the bars I went to in Pattaya was 600 baht, the same pretty much as Bangkok. Walking Street tends to be the most expensive (lots of regular tourists pushing up prices) but ironically Soi LK Metro also had bars with high bar-fines. You've just got to shop around a bit and visit lots of bars. In my diary I did make a note of what the bar-fine was for each bar I went to. Generally the ST and LT prices are cheaper in Pattaya but exceptions prevail in some of the bigger Walking Street gogo bars. Typically you might short-time a girl for 500 baht less in Pattaya than a girl of a similar quality in Bangkok but in other bars the prices are Bangkok prices.
As for beer-bars, well, as I said in my diary I'm certainly not an expert. I've had limited experience of beer-bars before this trip so I'm probably not the person to ask. My friends Macca and Owen visit them regularly though and I seem to remember that they mentioned a bar-fine of 300 or 400, I can't quite remember now. I bar-fined a girl from a beer-bar near the end of Drinking Street called Lisa Bar. Lovely looking girl, perhaps the girl of my trip, and the bar-fine was 500.
[QUOTE=Valoulou; 1433689]will then leave to Pattaya on the 4th till the 8th where I've decided to stay at the Whitehouse Condotel.
I'm going to do this trip alone and was wondering if any of you guys would be there during that period and If so I would be happy to share time, drinks and experiences with you.
If not, I would be happy to get the latest advices / must-go places from anyone.
I'll report back my experience after that trip that I really look forward to.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Really depends on what you like?
Must see places are Walking Street and Soi 6, I would say. LK Metro is also a fun place.
On Soi 6 there are a number of bars run by fellow mongers that will be more than willing to advice you or guests there you can join up with if you feel you need wingmen.
What is your native language? Perhaps I know someone who speaks it there?
[QUOTE=Valoulou; 1433689]If not, I would be happy to get the latest advices / must-go places from anyone.
I'll report back my experience after that trip that I really look forward to.[/QUOTE]It's tricky to say as I don't know the kind of places you enjoy.
If you like massage parlours, there are plenty to choose from. If you want a threesome, go to Devil's Den. It's pricy but worth it. Dream Teen seems to offer the best service but Sabai Dee, Honey and Honey 2 offer soapies and have some nice girls. I'd recommend these places for afternoon action.
As for gogo bars, Walking Street has many to choose from and there is a concentration on Soi LK Metro too. My top five are: Heaven's Above, The Office, Happy Gogo, Baccara and Glasshouse but I just recommend visiting lots and seeing for yourself.
Incidentally, I posted a large diary on this forum with my experiences in all of the gogo bars and massage parlours I went to. I talked about prices / locations so it might be useful for you to read.
[QUOTE=BambiJacobson; 1433869]Really depends on what you like?
Must see places are Walking Street and Soi 6, I would say. LK Metro is also a fun place.
On Soi 6 there are a number of bars run by fellow mongers that will be more than willing to advice you or guests there you can join up with if you feel you need wingmen.
What is your native language? Perhaps I know someone who speaks it there?[/QUOTE]Thanks for your response,
I do speak English, it's just that I felt the need to emphasize that it wasn't my native language as my writing is not perfect and I can make some orthographic mistakes, I'm French though.
Anyway, thanks for your advices, I'll check those places, I'm not really concern about being alone (cause I'm planning to be as much accompanied as possible.) but it's just more fun to have a drink with someone in the same Pattaya "mood" and so forth. I guess I'll find people to share drinks with during my trip (even in the low season).
Quick question, are girls usually pushy for lady drinks? Cause If I'm drinking alone in a beerbar / gogo, I guess more girls will come and speak to me to get some, what's your usual "move' to politely decline / make her understand that you're not interested? (rookie question)
Will keep you posted on my trip.
Thanks again
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1434284]It's tricky to say as I don't know the kind of places you enjoy.
If you like massage parlours, there are plenty to choose from. If you want a threesome, go to Devil's Den. It's pricy but worth it. Dream Teen seems to offer the best service but Sabai Dee, Honey and Honey 2 offer soapies and have some nice girls. I'd recommend these places for afternoon action...[/QUOTE]Thanks for your response,
I've read your large diary before and I've made some notes about it, will try some of them. Your posts are always comprehensive and detailed, it's a real pleasure reading you.
Heard of Baccara, Devils Den and Glasshouse, will definitely check them out.
I haven't been detailed about what I'm looking for but basically pretty much everything, planning to do STs during days and LT (or ST if LT is hard) for the nights. I've also heard of Windmill which seems interesting but can be a bit awkward for non-regular.
I think I'm more a quick action kind of guy, I mean, as being alone, I don't see myself spending too much time staying at street open beer bar sipping beers while watching girls. I guess I'll be more a gogobar customer, getting in, having a drink, looking for pretty girls that doesn't seem shy or too pushy and go ST or LT (depending on the hour and if she's willing to).
Looking for the "usual" homerun, BBBJ, CIM, GFE, Anal (Is it difficult to find girls willing to try anal apart from Devils den? Even If I'm planning to try a threesome there).
Another rookie question: when speaking to a girl you like, do you generally tell her what you'd like to do with her before going up in a room? I guess that the answer is yes (as in Spain) but still, I'd like not to act as a first time Pattaya visitor (not to get ripped off) and I'm going to try to act like one.
Do you think, a cellphone would be useful for 5 or 6 days of action there? From some of your posts, it feels like you can "book" LT's late in the evening with the girl you met during the day, but again I guess we could just fix a meeting point somewhere as well.
Again, thanks for your response
Thanks for the info.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot; 1433867]In Pattaya the bar-fines are all over the place. Some are good value but other bars have a steep bar-fine of 1000 baht. Some bars slash their bar-fines after midnight which I think is a great idea for all involved. If I had to guess, I'd say the average bar-fine in the bars I went to in Pattaya was 600 baht, the same pretty much as Bangkok. Walking Street tends to be the most expensive (lots of regular tourists pushing up prices) but ironically Soi LK Metro also had bars with high bar-fines. You've just got to shop around a bit and visit lots of bars. In my diary I did make a note of what the bar-fine was for each bar I went to. Generally the ST and LT prices are cheaper in Pattaya but exceptions prevail in some of the bigger Walking Street gogo bars. Typically you might short-time a girl for 500 baht less in Pattaya than a girl of a similar quality in Bangkok but in other bars the prices are Bangkok prices.
As for beer-bars, well, as I said in my diary I'm certainly not an expert. I've had limited experience of beer-bars before this trip so I'm probably not the person to ask. My friends Macca and Owen visit them regularly though and I seem to remember that they mentioned a bar-fine of 300 or 400, I can't quite remember now. I bar-fined a girl from a beer-bar near the end of Drinking Street called Lisa Bar. Lovely looking girl, perhaps the girl of my trip, and the bar-fine was 500.[/QUOTE]
Does anyone have a map of places of interest in Pattaya? I just did a quick search and nothing came up. Thanks a lot.
[QUOTE=JayHighFive;1434586]Does anyone have a map of places of interest in Pattaya? I just did a quick search and nothing came up. Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]Try this. I recommend you get one before you go and study it. Lots of good info.
[url]http://www.groovymap.com/pattaya.php[/url]
[QUOTE=David 2; 1434623]Try this. I recommend you get one before you go and study it. Lots of good info.
[url]http://www.groovymap.com/pattaya.php[/url][/QUOTE]If someone needs a free monger map:
[url]www.PattayaBarGuide.com[/url]
Once in Patts free tourist maps / guidebooks are availabe from most hotel lobbies.
Appreciations for the links gentlemen, I shall put the maps to good use myself. I just love the cartoons.
Thanks guys I appreciate it and I am sure others do too. I will put them to use.
[QUOTE=Amex Spg; 1434629]If someone needs a free monger map:
[url]www.PattayaBarGuide.com[/url]
Once in Patts free tourist maps / guidebooks are availabe from most hotel lobbies.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Valoulou; 1434443]Thanks for your response,
Cut.
Do you think, a cellphone would be useful for 5 or 6 days of action there? From some of your posts, it feels like you can "book" LT's late in the evening with the girl you met during the day, but again I guess we could just fix a meeting point somewhere as well.
Again, thanks for your response[/QUOTE]Highly recommended on having the cellphone. Weather you bring along an unlocked gsm one or even buy a most basic phone there in many of the small shops around (as little as about 600B). The ability to met these girls is endless BUT understand the mentality of these thais is that there is no such thing as a real meeting time. You will be giving up standing / waiting in a hurry otherwise.
Mtg
[QUOTE]Highly recommended having the cellphone.[/QUOTE]Plus one on the need for a cell phone. Get one with a keyboard to make it easier to send text messages. This is handy when you're in a loud bar and you need to text your mates (who are probably in another loud bar). Or when you've got your hands all over some hottie and you don't want to take a voice call. Also lots of the girls are more comfortable sending text messages than talking on the phone as it helps a little with the language barrier.
You can buy unlocked GSM cell phones on the Bay of E before you go. Older models are almost as cheap as they are in Thailand. You can buy a SIM card the same way. The advantage to buying the SIM card in advance is that you'll know your phone number before you start your trip. This is useful if you can't find your driver at the airport. (Although those people are masters at somehow finding you, even in the absence of real time communication.) And you can give your friends back home the number so they can reach you when you're on holiday. (If, in fact, you actually *want* them to reach you.)
If you can wait until you get to Thailand to buy your cell phone I recommend the MBK Center in Bangkok, where they have every conceivable cell phone for sale, plus SIM cards and airtime. You can even get vanity cell phone numbers if you think certain digits bring good luck. They can also unlock or jailbreak just about any phone ever made. In Pattaya the Tukcom Center has a good selection of cell phone stuff as well.
Bunky
spent 4 days in pattaya, nothing memorable. place was a bit quiet now, not so many customers for all girls. also rained most of the time and ws was flooded to your ankles at some places. first went to some agogos, heaven above in ws was bf 600 and surprisingly rhe girl only asked 1000 for st but session ended right away after her little cowgirl action we found out the sheet was covered with blood, what an ameteur thing it was that she worked during that time. she rubbed the sheets a bit cleaner and left, i guess i didn't have to pay her but gave her 300 don't ask me why. she was in. panic too and embarrassed, probably really a new gir working. then got more drunk and went for a beer bar girl, a bit chubby but nice, worth 1000 lt plus 300 bf. i think the bar was t bar or tj bar on soi 7. on other days i was too drunk too, went to fahrenheit agogo and bf 600 and a nice girl who was working outside as a hostess and didn't dance wanted only 2k long because she said she liked me. 24yo nice looking but had a baby and body had big stretching marks so maybe didn't dance and show that for that reason. not good experience. fucked her only at night once. another session was 3am too drunk again played games in a bar with a girl who turned out to be lb so left "her" and slim pickings at 3am and another 1k lt for a chubby bargirl, old 37 not too pretty but was feeling horny and a pussy is a pussy. did her another time in the morning, then headed to bkk. pattaya disappointment, maybe my tactics were wrong, you shouldn't drink too long and you could get quality out of a agogo early, but i just don't like to call it a night after 10-11pm. want to see more bars and girls and then suddenly all the decent girls are taken already. and low season, maybe the lookers are in their farms. found one cute girl in a beer bar but lost her to another rude guy who just bought her drinks when we were playing pool. i saw some lookers dancing as pairs of girls dancing in some clubs or discos in ws they looked freelancers, i guess if want a looker those i should have tried but im bad picking them up and they looked choosy and some guys trying them many times so should compete too. last night rode a motocycle taxi and almost hit a food cart at full speed but driver manouvered us safe at the last second so i should be happy, things could be a lot worse.
must switch to bkk thread but here met a dating site girl aged 42 (i'm 35) so a bit strange but has a body of a teenager (thais amaze in that sense). of course the face shows up some signs of age but no kids yet. but would still like to have. we went ro drink quite a heavily in bars then ended up bb come inside in the morning, what a good feeling it was even with hangover. she works in a shop at a mall. now still a week to go here.
[QUOTE=Pekkakoo; 1434961]Spent 4 days in Pattaya, nothing memorable.
On other days I was too drunk. Now still a week to go here.[/QUOTE]Your choice, but you can get drunk at home, down your local bar, even on the plane. You can't fuck beautiful sexy Thai girls in those places.
Pekkakoo. At the risk of stereotyping, I spot your name as Finnish. So here is a story from a couple of decades ago. Staying in a beachfront hotel in Hikkaduwa, Sri Lanka, I was drafted as a troubleshooter for the owner.
There was a group of Finnish tourists staying at the hotel. One was a man on the crutches who was always drunk. No problem. But he had come with a girfriend from Finland, a common street hoe from Kemi, who soon began favoring locals. This left the boyfriend with his sap rising. One day he tried to get physical with a housekeeper, a straitlaced Muslim lady. That's when the owner came knocking, knowing I knew Finnish and was reasonably sober.
There were all kinds of additional developments in the next few days. At the end the hotel owner said to me: "What a pity, such a young man. He spent a lot of money to come all the way here and had no fun."
I responded: "What makes you think so? He seems to be having a wonderful time."
To Pekkakoo: Not to worry, mate. You are having fun too. You may not remember much but you get drunk and full-serviced on a regular basis. Lots of us envy you.
[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;1434961]On other days I was too drunk too . Pattaya disappointment, maybe my tactics were wrong, you shouldn't drink too long and you could get quality out of a agogo early, but I just don't like to call it a night after 10-11pm. Want to see more bars and girls and then suddenly all the decent girls are taken already.[/QUOTE]Ya think? Look, some guys like to drink a lot. I get that, but clearly too much booze kills the good times for most us. I used to smoke a lot of weed and do Ludes (A LOT!). It was great, but in all honesty it affected my sexual performance and limited my female choices adversely. Shagging quality Asian girls is now my number one objective when I travel. I don't let anything get in the way of that including booze, drugs, or money. And I have great times in BKK, Pattaya, AC, Subic, Manila, Singapore, and Macau. Get your shit together Pekkakoo and you will have a much better time and with way better girls.
Here is a suggestion: find a girl early, have a couple of drinks with her to loosen things up and get to know her a little, then barfine her ST, shag her, and afterwards return to the bars with her or without her and party it up while at the same time checking for more talent to hit up the next night. There is nothing wrong with barfining a 2nd gal later in the night, if you find a good one. But if you are shitfaced that probably won't happen. Your trip report confirms this.
[QUOTE=Valoulou;1434443]Heard of Baccara, Devils Den and Glasshouse, will definitely check them out.[/QUOTE]Firstly I'm really glad you enjoyed my diary and it helped you plan your trip. I recommend visiting as many gogo bars as possible and drawing up a mental shortlist of where your favourite girls work. This way you'll get a good feel for Pattaya and find bars that suit you. Walking Street has some big bars that employ lots of girls but Glasshouse is a small bar that had some nice girls at cheaper prices. It's certainly worth a quick beer at the very least. Gems can definitely be found in the smaller bars (which also tend not to attract large groups of Japanese tourists). Half the fun is looking.
[QUOTE=Valoulou;1434443]Another rookie question: when speaking to a girl you like, do you generally tell her what you'd like to do with her before going up in a room? I guess that the answer is yes (as in Spain) but still, I'd like not to act as a first time Pattaya visitor (not to get ripped off)[/QUOTE]Actually, the answer is no. My modus operandi when I meet girls is to try to make it as little like a business transaction as possible. I'll see a girl I like and buy her drink and we'll chat and get to know each other, I'll try to have fun with her and make her laugh and play silly little games (a good one is 'stares' when you've got to stare closely in to each others eyes and the person who loses is the one who laughs first. One of the reasons I do this is that I've got blue eyes which Thai girls love!). Basically for half an hour I'll try to make them as relaxed as possible, hold hands, dance together in the seat and smile as much as possible, without once discussing 'business'. If they act coldly then I'll either move on or buy her another drink. The aim is to get her to think that you're a nice, friendly guy.
A couple more things to consider. Some girls ask "you been here before?". Never let on you are a beginner or she will quote high. Another thing is think of your appearance. A LOT of guys in Pattaya go in to gogo bars wearing shorts and a T-shirt. If you make an effort with your appearance and wear a nice shirt for example, the girls will notice. Maybe wear aftershave too as some girls think it's the height of luxury. If you take care of your appearance not only does it make you more desirable, it hints that you might be more generous. If you do these things then the girl will want your custom more than if you are very serious and ask 'do you do anal? ' within five minutes of meeting her. Most girls have a lower-price and a higher-price that they can quote and it's your job to make sure that you get quoted the lower price.
When it comes time to talk money, either say something like "I really like you, would you like to go to my hotel with me. 1500 short-time? Tip if you make me smile?" or just ask her how much for short-time and when they tell you 2000 baht, say "1500 plus tip if you make me smile". They'll accept more times than not. Just make sure you do your research on this forum about what the correct prices are in gogo bars.
I never list my expectations but that's because I don't look for anal or CIM, I just want a BJ and sex. If you have special requirements ask when you are agreeing the price. If she looks uncertain you can say "if do anal, I give tip" with a smile. Just make sure you live up to your word if she accepts. I know most experienced mongers list terms and conditions in the bar (I. E how long, exactly what is expected) but I prefer my way. Sometimes it can backfire and the girl may ask to leave early but more often that not I get the girlfriend experience I crave, I get kisses and cuddles afterwards and I get their phone number.
[QUOTE=Valoulou;1434443]Do you think, a cellphone would be useful for 5 or 6 days of action there? From some of your posts, it feels like you can "book" LT's late in the evening[/QUOTE]A cellphone is essential. I just take my own from England but there is lots of good advice on this page about buying cheap local phones. You will meet many girls from the massage parlours and gogo bars who you really 'click' with, who you would like to meet again. You can arrange a second meeting either during the afternoon (gogo girls) or at night (massage girls) for much reduced rates. Not only is it cheaper for you, the girls pocket all of the proceeds without their bar / MP taking their cut.
The flooding on June 12 was pretty damn bad along LK Metro, Soi Diana and Soi Bukhao. What should have been a 15-minute walk back to View Talay 6 (Central Festival) took two hours. But it wasn't as bad as the flooding on Sept. 11, 2011, around 2nd Road and Pattaya Tai, when I was at times wading in water that was nearly up to my waist and it took five hours to do a 15-minute walk. The water along LK Metro / Soi Bukhao wasn't anywhere near as deep as it had been in 2011 on 2nd Road / Pattaya Tai, nor was it moving nearly as fast.
I had been on a bar crawl to go gos on LK Metro and tried to navigate Soi Diana to get home, but the water was up to my knees and rushing fast. I retreated to the Rockhouse again, had another beer, then tried heading in the opposite direction on LK Metro. Stopped off at the Drunken Duck for awhile, then set out again at about 1. 30 a. M. Surprisingly, the baht buses were still running and the water wasn't very deep at the intersection of LK Metro / Soi Bukhao, but it got increasingly worse as we headed towards Pattaya Klang. Unluckily for me, the bus turned right instead of left on Klang. I got off, but the water was too deep for me to feel comfortable about trying to walk the rest of the way home. Too many potholes, too much shit in the water you couldn't see. I waited an hour or so for a lot of it to run off, then crossed the street and got home without further problem. The water wasn't a problem along 2nd Road.
Even moderate flooding like on June 12-13 is more than just an irritation. Because of the poor condition of the electrical cables that hang everywhere, there's a real danger of electrocution. Several visitors have been electrocuted in past years. I didn't hear about any deaths this time, but at least one guy got a very bad electrical shock that resulted in his hospitalization.
Also, the flood water is about as toxic a mix as you can imagine. If you have to wade through it, make sure you're up-to-date with your tetanus shots. If you get any of it in your mouth, head directly to the hospital. Your clothes will of course have to be washed and your shoes not only allowed to dry out but disinfected as well. Keep in mind, too, that the streets and sidewalks of Pattaya are full of potholes, loose paving stones, accumulated garbage and other obstacles you can't see under the water. The flooding sweeps a lot of flotsam along with it, making walking a major hazard, especially if you're a bit drunk.
Best advice. When a heavy downpour begins at night, either head for your hotel ASAP or wait it out, all night if necessary, in a bar or short-time hotel. Don't risk walking any distance through flood water. There's a very thin line between a dream vacation and the nightmare of a lifetime.
Evil
Timely and appreciative post. I always stay at VT 6 and will be back there within two weeks. I know it is the rainy season and this reinforces the thought to be prepared.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1435088]The flooding on June 12 was pretty damn bad along LK Metro, Soi Diana and Soi Bukhao. What should have been a 15-minute walk back to View Talay 6 (Central Festival) took two hours. Snipped.
Evil[/QUOTE]
Will be in Pattaya in September which is the month I have visited for the past few years. I've experience rain and minimal flooding but nothing like what I see in the pics. Have I been lucky or does the rain lessen in September?
Also can I rent a place in VT6 for just one week?
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1435088]The flooding on June 12 was pretty damn bad along LK Metro, Soi Diana and Soi Bukhao. What should have been a 15-minute walk back to View Talay 6 (Central Festival) took two hours. But it wasn't as bad as the flooding on Sept. 11, 2011, around 2nd Road and Pattaya Tai, when I was at times wading in water that was nearly up to my waist and it took five hours to do a 15-minute walk. The water along LK Metro / Soi Bukhao wasn't anywhere near as deep as it had been in 2011 on 2nd Road / Pattaya Tai, nor was it moving nearly as fast...[/QUOTE]Where are the Jetskies when you really need them?
Interesting pics, Evil. I agree entirely with your advice on floods in Pattaya. I was there for the Sept 11, 2011 floods and underwater and in-water hazards, both physical and bacterial were a huge concern.
I'll be back in November this year when I'm not expecting flood inducing rain. And I'm staying VT6. I guess if you stay there you can always access Central Festival even in the worst of weather and get fed there. If you have a TG staying with you life's good. If not, maybe you can find one in the mall.
[QUOTE=Allover; 1435170]Will be in Pattaya in September which is the month I have visited for the past few years. I've experience rain and minimal flooding but nothing like what I see in the pics. Have I been lucky or does the rain lessen in September?
Also can I rent a place in VT6 for just one week?[/QUOTE]September is actually the second-wettest month in Pattaya, according to the charts. An average of 8" of rain for the month, with the skies opening on 17 days out of 30. It's topped only by October with 10" of precipitation and 18 rain days. Of course, it can vary from year to year, but the very worst flooding I've seen in Pattaya occurred on Sept 11, 2011. Others have said it was even worse than that in September and October of 2007.
Yes, you can rent a VT6 condo for a week. Several agencies handle short-term VT6 rentals. Just do a Google search for VT6 and the names will pop up. VTSIX is one and Dancewatchers is another.
[QUOTE=Jgm005;1435092]Timely and appreciative post. I always stay at VT 6 and will be back there within two weeks. I know it is the rainy season and this reinforces the thought to be prepared.[/QUOTE]Pack a pair of substantial water-resistant shoes. You don't want to be tramping through flood water in sandals.
Evil
Apologies for a newbie question. My flight is arriving relatively late at 10:10PM and figure I'll end up getting to my hotel around between 12-12:30AM. I'm staying at the Dusit D2 and wanted to have a LT session on arrival. Is my best bet to head over to LK Metro (Oasis, Champagne, The Office or Kiss)?
Much appreciate any feedback.
[QUOTE=CalvinH; 1435435]Apologies for a newbie question. My flight is arriving relatively late at 10:10PM and figure I'll end up getting to my hotel around between 12-12:30AM. I'm staying at the Dusit D2 and wanted to have a LT session on arrival. Is my best bet to head over to LK Metro (Oasis, Champagne, The Office or Kiss)?
Much appreciate any feedback.[/QUOTE]No. Head to the temple on the South Pattaya Road almost opposite the school close to the traffic lights.
I'm glad members mentioned about the rainy months before I actually book my trip.
I had originally planned to go at the beginning of September, but now I'm considering pushing it back to mid-August. Would that time be much better?
[QUOTE=CalvinH; 1435435]Apologies for a newbie question. My flight is arriving relatively late at 10:10PM and figure I'll end up getting to my hotel around between 12-12:30AM. I'm staying at the Dusit D2 and wanted to have a LT session on arrival. Is my best bet to head over to LK Metro (Oasis, Champagne, The Office or Kiss)?
Much appreciate any feedback.[/QUOTE]Assuming it takes you 30 minutes to shower, unpack a bit and change clothes, you'll be ready to head out by 1. 00 a. M. At that time, just about all of Pattaya will still be at your feet and there are several thousand places where you could arrange L / T. The only area that would be largely closed is Soi 6. The Dusit D2 is conveniently located for either Walking Street or LK Metro. There are also many beer bars on the way, particularly if you head to LK Metro via Soi Diana.
Evil
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1435088]The flooding on June 12 was pretty damn bad along LK Metro, Soi Diana and Soi Bukhao. What should have been a 15-minute walk back to View Talay 6 (Central Festival) took two hours. But it wasn't as bad as the flooding on Sept. 11, 2011, around 2nd Road and Pattaya Tai, when I was at times wading in water that was nearly up to my waist and it took five hours to do a 15-minute walk. The water along LK Metro / Soi Bukhao wasn't anywhere near as deep as it had been in 2011 on 2nd Road / Pattaya Tai, nor was it moving nearly as fast. Best advice. When a heavy downpour begins at night, either head for your hotel ASAP or wait it out, all night if necessary, in a bar or short-time hotel. Don't risk walking any distance through flood water. There's a very thin line between a dream vacation and the nightmare of a lifetime.
Evil[/QUOTE]I fully agree with you and feet and legs with a wound are a welcome gate for bacteria. Nevertheless, September last I was in similar situation in BKK, Nana area, where else, and I was truly surprised to see the water, ankle height, not much different from your pictures, was clear. Of course it does not mean it is clean, far from me to say that.
But taking into account the poor cleaning level you have in BKK streets (your description applies to nearly every where in SEA) I was expecting lots of things flaoting, including. Rats!
To cross the street I took courage and went into the water to go back to the hotel. There was no way to bypass that, anywhere.
You need to take a bit of courage, not have wounds in your lower areas of the legs and. Be a bit luck. Then take a deep shower.
I did this with flip flops: at the end of the day they do not protect you much less than shoes as water goes in anyhow. Water that is potentially full of bacteria, clear or not it is.
It is like with Songkran: either you stay confined in your hotel room or be ready to get wet any minute.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1435627]Assuming it takes you 30 minutes to shower, unpack a bit and change clothes, you'll be ready to head out by 1. 00 am At that time, just about all of Pattaya will still be at your feet and there are several thousand places where you could arrange L / T. The only area that would be largely closed is Soi 6. The Dusit D2 is conveniently located for either Walking Street or LK Metro. There are also many beer bars on the way, particularly if you head to LK Metro via Soi Diana.
Evil[/QUOTE]Good looking out Evil. Appreciate the feedback. When I was in Bangkok, it seemed to thin out past 1am. Seems like Pattaya might be a little different.
There is a fine line between what is objectively good (or "fun") , and what is instead purely subjective matter, or just like art does at time, elevates misery to gloom. The story you posted reflects that conondrum, what is truly beautiful? That which is beautiful, or thay you just like?
[QUOTE=Vittu; 1435024]Pekkakoo. At the risk of stereotyping, I spot your name as Finnish. So here is a story from a couple of decades ago. Staying in a beachfront hotel in Hikkaduwa, Sri Lanka, I was drafted as a troubleshooter for the owner.
There was a group of Finnish tourists staying at the hotel. One was a man on the crutches who was always drunk. No problem. But he had come with a girfriend from Finland, a common street hoe from Kemi, who soon began favoring locals. This left the boyfriend with his sap rising. One day he tried to get physical with a housekeeper, a straitlaced Muslim lady. That's when the owner came knocking, knowing I knew Finnish and was reasonably sober.
There were all kinds of additional developments in the next few days. At the end the hotel owner said to me: "What a pity, such a young man. He spent a lot of money to come all the way here and had no fun."
I responded: "What makes you think so? He seems to be having a wonderful time."
To Pekkakoo: Not to worry, mate. You are having fun too. You may not remember much but you get drunk and full-serviced on a regular basis. Lots of us envy you.[/QUOTE]
Knee-jerk reaction if I have ever saw one. All yuor cellphone pictures show motorbikes quietly navigatin the "high waters" without much trouble, shows that the Thai people have more balls than you, with your bacteria fixation.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1435088]The flooding on June 12 was pretty damn bad along LK Metro, Soi Diana and Soi Bukhao.
[blah blah blah]
Evil[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Marcos;1435768]Knee-jerk reaction if I have ever saw one. All yuor cellphone pictures show motorbikes quietly navigatin the "high waters" without much trouble, shows that the Thai people have more balls than you, with your bacteria fixation.[/QUOTE]My reaction as well, where's the high water? After having waded thru many wet seasons sans tetanus, I wonder if it's not higher risk when you accidentally step into some small mud pool of sun dried, concentrated waste in dry season. Just rinse when you get home, and get on with your life.
In Pattaya for a little distraction before moving to something more adventurous.
I wasn't much curious about anythign anymore, so played it safe. First, checked in at the "Champ apartments" in central Pattaya. Quiet small building, far away from any busy street and bullshit. 500 Bt per day, and they will do their best to make you happy. No English spoken.
Second, I ventured to the discos at late night with mixed luck before meeting Ms. I. Pictured below. The first feeling is all what matters to me, as if it was a casual pickup. Without being a great beauty, she is moons better than the average, with a quiet, accomodating attitude that proved true thought all the nights we've been together. Some nights after her bar shift, she would call me asking if she could come over, sometime she would just come to the building door (just to find it closed when had no phone to call me.) But she has a brand new Toyota with which she took me to dinner once. Damage. 1500 per night / day whatever it is. I have skipped some days when it did not seemed necessary. Staying with her I've seen all my past life with the former Thai GF coming back, including the declaration of (almost) love at 4 days, the catfight at the 5th days, the Temple visit, etc, etc.
Anyway. In between this monogamous paid relationship I've also had to pleasure to meet Skogis, and we shared a gigantic Thai fish dinner. Too bad he had to leave soon, so we couln't party for real.
I've gained a little love for this crazy city, but I'm moving on tomorrow for a change.
[QUOTE=Pute Nut;1435774]My reaction as well, where's the high water? After having waded thru many wet seasons sans tetanus, I wonder if it's not higher risk when you accidentally step into some small mud pool of sun dried, concentrated waste in dry season. Just rinse when you get home, and get on with your life.[/QUOTE]Hehe, here's a short story from a friend of mine. He likes to tell it over and over, so it stuck, finally I can put it to a good use. Phuket ages ago, after days of downpours, they sat together when something (I can't tell exactly what it was) stimulates one of the guys. In a rush he crosses the road looking for what looked so sexy to him, little he knew there was an open manhole below his steps. He is all-in in the water, surrounded by floating turds (according to my friend's narration).
As far as I know he is still alive paying taxes in our fucked-up country today.
Harold wrote The indian fella was in dubble mind so he saw dubble diaphrams. Make cents to me. LOL.
I do not know the spelling of Double. I am not male gynaeoclogist and used the word diaphragm. Diaphragm is used inside for contraception. Externally the contraceptive barriers are condoms and female has got female condoms. It can be used both for anal and vaginal protection. I am providing link [url]http://www.uhs.umich.edu/contraception-female-condom-facts.[/url]
A liitle bit aberration can occur in reporting. The room was having 5 watt bulb light and what it looked to me that she had protection for both places.
I did not write my last posting. Next day I wasted time to find out bell services and got booked a seat for airport directly. I donot remeber exactly how much but it was very cheap as compared to taxi which forum members go on recommending, advertising. I did go to famous massage center of soi 11 next to paradise massage. Seen the girl who appeared in you tube.
Another mistake I made in my reports was in chinatown the name of soapy was cleopetra which is close to railway station and without any signboard in english.
Will I go to Thailand again. I do not know. I have 9 telephone contacts and telephoned 5 of them. They could recollect. I will not be that lost as it was my first visit. I will, if I come, will inform before coming and will like to see all those whose language is dubble / mind / LOL / pig.
Another of my observation is that thai talent is more outside the Thailand. The only problem is there outside Thailand the scope is for very short time.
Now question is membership to forum. That is very small amount. But will it benefit me? Of course there will be knowledgable members who will honestly guide me.
I have not attached any photo or tele number as I found ethically not sound
My idea was to inform the visitors about Thailand and not writing pornography book.
[QUOTE=DaniChan007; 1435593]I'm glad members mentioned about the rainy months before I actually book my trip.
I had originally planned to go at the beginning of September, but now I'm considering pushing it back to mid-August. Would that time be much better?[/QUOTE]People tend to way overestimate the rain part of raining season. I have been in September and have had many friend that went in September too. They rain season does not mean that it rains all the time. Its just the part of the season that they have any rain!
I was there last September and I experienced 3-4 hours of rain for one day out of 7 days.
The upside is that the prices are better for everything. The girls are still bountiful and with less guys there you have it even easier then in high season.
This year I will go in August but I had originally booked my trip for September because I like it then and I only moved because work dictated it.
So my advice is do not change your plans. You will have a great time in September!
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1435662]I fully agree with you and feet and legs with a wound are a welcome gate for bacteria. Nevertheless, September last I was in similar situation in BKK, Nana area, where else, and I was truly surprised to see the water, ankle height, not much different from your pictures, was clear. Of course it does not mean it is clean, far from me to say that.
But taking into account the poor cleaning level you have in BKK streets (your description applies to nearly every where in SEA) I was expecting lots of things flaoting, including. Rats!
To cross the street I took courage and went into the water to go back to the hotel. There was no way to bypass that, anywhere.
You need to take a bit of courage, not have wounds in your lower areas of the legs and. Be a bit luck. Then take a deep shower.
I did this with flip flops: at the end of the day they do not protect you much less than shoes as water goes in anyhow. Water that is potentially full of bacteria, clear or not it is.
It is like with Songkran: either you stay confined in your hotel room or be ready to get wet any minute.[/QUOTE]Get a grip man. It's only water. I've swum in worse and somehow survived. Rats are just small mammals, and when they are dead and drowned no more of a health hazard than any other rotting trash.
Boys I am coming down to Pattaya Friday noon for 4 days. PM if you like to meet and chat over drink.
Ta
[QUOTE=CalvinH; 1435435]Apologies for a newbie question. My flight is arriving relatively late at 10:10PM and figure I'll end up getting to my hotel around between 12-12:30AM. I'm staying at the Dusit D2 and wanted to have a LT session on arrival. Is my best bet to head over to LK Metro (Oasis, Champagne, The Office or Kiss)?
Much appreciate any feedback.[/QUOTE]Got into Pattaya closer to 1am due to flight being slightly delayed. Took shower and headed over to LK Metro. Ugh, was disappointed after going into Champagne and The Office. Seems like Pattaya girls are about 5kg heavier than the girls in Bangkok. In both places, only 5 or so girls were "dancing" and very few customers. Hopped onto a moto-taxi and headed over to walking street. Went straight to Baccara and noticed a few things:
* Seems like there is an over-abundance of waiters.
* No comparison to the Bangkok Baccara in terms of looks.
* Girls weren't aggressive in asking to buy drinks.
As it edged toward 3am, ended up buying a drink and taking her LT. Didn't negotiate and ended up paying 4, 000 baht. Overall, relatively average in looks, but her cute and friendly personality made up for it. First WG that I've been with in a while that didn't slather on the KY, but we took our time and she got naturally wet. Plus for that.
My first impression of Pattaya relative to Bangkok is that there might be a trade off for slightly lower looks and worse bodies vs a more friendlier-personality and less pro-like terms.
[QUOTE=DaniChan007; 1435593]I'm glad members mentioned about the rainy months before I actually book my trip.
I had originally planned to go at the beginning of September, but now I'm considering pushing it back to mid-August. Would that time be much better?[/QUOTE]I have been there during the rainy season (June, July and August) and it rains much more and is more humid than other times of the year. If the weather isn't a big issue for you and you just plan to spend time in bars and with ladies, I wouldn't worry about it. You will deal with it.
Here is one link to average rainfall. You can google and get more info.
[url]http://thailandforvisitors.com/east/pattaya/practical-information/weather.php[/url]
[QUOTE=CalvinH;1436479]First WG that I've been with in a while that didn't slather on the KY, but we took our time and she got naturally wet. Plus for that.[/QUOTE]Calvin where have you been getting your wgs from? I have never been with a wg in Thailand who was in possession of KY. Tijuana is a different story!
So be it.
I will however refer you to the New York Times OP-ED section (page 27) in today's edition entitled "Why India Trails China" where-in the author, Amartya Sen, notes that a full HALF of the children in India, after 4 years of schooling CAN NOT divide 20 by 5.
[url]http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/20/amartya-sen-on-why-india-trails-china/[/url]
[QUOTE=GamIndia; 1431940]Dear Sir,
I appreciate the effort you have put in to google out so much info about india and the poor literacy rates. There is no way I can deny the same.
However my point is that this site haa been started with the intention of coordinating between mongers like you and me who think below the waist when it comes to girls. We don't let money be a spoil sport when it comes to having fun I. E. We don't bargain.
So why not let the forum be to that and not go about citing incidents to run down nationalities. This is not a politically oriented forum.
So lets stick to the fun and share experiences that are relevant to the forum.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CalvinH; 1436479]Got into Pattaya closer to 1am due to flight being slightly delayed. Took shower and headed over to LK Metro. Ugh, was disappointed after going into Champagne and The Office. Seems like Pattaya girls are about 5kg heavier than the girls in Bangkok. In both places, only 5 or so girls were "dancing" and very few customers. Hopped onto a moto-taxi and headed over to walking street. Went straight to Baccara and noticed a few things:
* Seems like there is an over-abundance of waiters.
* No comparison to the Bangkok Baccara in terms of looks.
* Girls weren't aggressive in asking to buy drinks.
As it edged toward 3am, ended up buying a drink and taking her LT. Didn't negotiate and ended up paying 4, 000 baht. Overall, relatively average in looks, but her cute and friendly personality made up for it. First WG that I've been with in a while that didn't slather on the KY, but we took our time and she got naturally wet. Plus for that.
My first impression of Pattaya relative to Bangkok is that there might be a trade off for slightly lower looks and worse bodies vs a more friendlier-personality and less pro-like terms.[/QUOTE]Your paid 4000 AT 3am During low season. You got ripped off! You overpaid!
Here is a shot in the dark, or searching for a needle in the proverbial haystack.
I am looking for a gal who hangs out in the Bamboo Bar. Her name is Noy, and her permanent seat is in the back left corner (as you are facing the stage) of the place.
Lost her phone number and have been trying to contact her. Real nice gal. Not necessarily a knockout, but she is a barrel of fun to be with.
Anyone with any info please pm me.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1436322]Rats are just small mammals, and when they are dead and drowned no more of a health hazard than any other rotting trash.[/QUOTE]Spoken like a true Mouse. :)
(nice to see you're still active here Mouse. Will be returning to BKK soon)
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1436607]Calvin where have you been getting your wgs from? I have never been with a wg in Thailand who was in possession of KY. Tijuana is a different story![/QUOTE]Mostly the Bay area, limited sessions in Korea and a short stay in Bangkok. I guess part of it can be attributed to my lacking of wanting to go down on WGs and possibly picking the less "warm" type of girls.
[QUOTE=RoadGlide;1436632]Your paid 4000 AT 3am During low season. You got ripped off! You overpaid![/QUOTE]I suppose everyone has a different budget / tactics. Airfare is running me 66,000 baht and the hotel is 45,000 baht for 5 days. I'm guessing you could say the same "getting ripped off" about those as well.
[QUOTE=HenryV; 1436684]Here is a shot in the dark, or searching for a needle in the proverbial haystack.
Anyone with any info please pm me.[/QUOTE]Long black hair and a bit of dark skin, maybe from Isaan? Maybe somebody here knows her too.
Hey. Don't me take me serious. !
Arrived in Patts yesterday it's low season and very quite I think it's the best time to visit Pattaya, plenty of free lancers on beach road and all over Pattaya average price around 500 to 750 baht some really cute looking girls.
I've had 4 girs already and looking forward for the rest of the trip, my advise to fellow mongers is that if you want to save money and get the best girls it's best to visit during low season.
Happy Mongering
I agree completely. I come over twice a year and one of those times is low season. I hit the shores of BKK / Pattaya next week for a few weeks before going up into E-San land. I hope the Ruskies are in lower numbers.
[QUOTE=Xplorer007; 1436943]Arrived in Patts yesterday it's low season and very quite I think it's the best time to visit Pattaya, plenty of free lancers on beach road and all over Pattaya average price around 500 to 750 baht some really cute looking girls.
I've had 4 girs already and looking forward for the rest of the trip, my advise to fellow mongers is that if you want to save money and get the best girls it's best to visit during low season.
Happy Mongering[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CalvinH;1436801]I suppose everyone has a different budget / tactics. Airfare is running me 66,000 baht and the hotel is 45,000 baht for 5 days. I'm guessing you could say the same "getting ripped off" about those as well.[/QUOTE]No the analogy would be if you offered the airline 100, 000 baht for your ticket, and the hotel 70, 000 for the room. That's what overpaying means. Paying more than the actual price. It has nothing to do with your budget (but just to reassure you, we're all quite impressed).
[QUOTE=Opebo;1437027]No the analogy would be if you offered the airline 100, 000 baht for your ticket, and the hotel 70, 000 for the room. That's what overpaying means. Paying more than the actual price. It has nothing to do with your budget (but just to reassure you, we're all quite impressed).[/QUOTE]Least of all I am impressed. My humble place is 54, 000 baht for 365 days (366 days on a leap year).
I've seen Thai apartments at that price so I think at 4500Bt / month I'm impressed with your euphemistic use of the word humble.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1437032]Least of all I am impressed. My humble place is 54, 000 baht for 365 days (366 days on a leap year).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kumbu; 1436695]Spoken like a true Mouse. .
(nice to see you're still active here Mouse. Will be returning to BKK soon) [/QUOTE]Hi Kumbu. Good to hear from you. Yes, I've been more active on another forum, using an uncannily similar name, but still going strong. I'll be in Thailand end July, but probably heading straight to Pattaya. I'm still in touch with The Shrimp, but to be honest I see less and less of her each year. Still a great girl though.
[QUOTE=CalvinH;1436801]I suppose everyone has a different budget / tactics. Airfare is running me 66,000 baht and the hotel is 45,000 baht for 5 days. I'm guessing you could say the same "getting ripped off" about those as well.[/QUOTE]9, 000 Bht per night in Thailand? What do you get for that? (Gold-plated taps and a bed, obviously, but what else? Hot and cold running flunkies?)
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1437285]9, 000 Bht per night in Thailand? What do you get for that?[/QUOTE]You get a power trip and show-off time at the expense of the unfortunate listener.
Not sure what. "Hey. Don't me take me serious.!". Means?
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1436901]Long black hair and a bit of dark skin, maybe from Isaan? Maybe somebody here knows her too.
Hey. Don't me take me serious. ![/QUOTE]
I'm heading to Pattaya in two weeks time, and will post FR's during my stay. Usually I use motorbike taxis to get around Pattaya, but this time I'll be hiring my own rental motorbike. In that regard, I have a question to the experienced people familiar with Pattaya and the police pullovers. How should a Farang deal with a pullover? My driving license is Malaysian, and not an International License. I don't speak Thai. If I was in Malaysia you can negotiate with a pullover, by offering the officer cash rather than him writing out the ticket, usually at a substantial discount to the "fine". So, how can I handle any "pulled-over-for-probably-not-having-an-International-driving-license" police shakedown? Any tips? Oh, and I'm less about saving a hundred THB than I am about navigating the driving situation in advance.
Feel free to PM me, if you prefer not to clutter up this message board with tips like this, or examples, and thanks in advance.
- Gunga Din
[QUOTE=Gunga Din; 1437540]I'm heading to Pattaya in two weeks time, and will post FR's during my stay. Usually I use motorbike taxis to get around Pattaya, but this time I'll be hiring my own rental motorbike. In that regard, I have a question to the experienced people familiar with Pattaya and the police pullovers. How should a Farang deal with a pullover? My driving license is Malaysian, and not an International License. I don't speak Thai. If I was in Malaysia you can negotiate with a pullover, by offering the officer cash rather than him writing out the ticket, usually at a substantial discount to the "fine". So, how can I handle any "pulled-over-for-probably-not-having-an-International-driving-license" police shakedown? Any tips? Oh, and I'm less about saving a hundred THB than I am about navigating the driving situation in advance.
Feel free to PM me, if you prefer not to clutter up this message board with tips like this, or examples, and thanks in advance.
- Gunga Din[/QUOTE]Not sure if a Malaysian license works in Pattaya? But depending on how long your stay and whether you look like a Farang will determine if you get pull over. It being wet season that lessen the chance of a check point but if you do get stopped that count on getting a break trying to negotiate. If they do take the money it will be the same amount or more? They will take the attitude that they are doing you a favor and tell you something like " Station really busy you want me to take care of the fine for you " although I had the money I showed him from one pocket I had 160 baht. He took my license and told me to pay the fine tomorrow and pick up my license.
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1437585]Not sure if a Malaysian license works in Pattaya? But depending on how long your stay and whether you look like a Farang will determine if you get pull over. It being wet season that lessen the chance of a check point but if you do get stopped that count on getting a break trying to negotiate. If they do take the money it will be the same amount or more? They will take the attitude that they are doing you a favor and tell you something like " Station really busy you want me to take care of the fine for you " although I had the money I showed him from one pocket I had 160 baht. He took my license and told me to pay the fine tomorrow and pick up my license.
LBM[/QUOTE]The thing is that is quite possible (nobody so far has gave me a definite, proved answer) that an IDL is required by law in Thailand. So if they want to fine for that, they are technically in the right. However, I think they may (or may not) go for that only that after the easy ones, e. G. No helmet, no Bike D / L, etc. Also as mentioned in other posts: they do the stops almost always at the same spots, at the same hours, day after day, year after year. And they do stop and fine Thai people too. Attached piccies where they stopped this beauty riding pillion with another lady, both had no helmets, the pig wanted to set me up with her, but she smiled to decline. I think they were not fined after all.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1437674]The thing is that is quite possible (nobody so far has gave me a definite, proved answer) that an IDL is required by law in Thailand. So if they want to fine for that, they are technically in the right.[/QUOTE]Yes, this is correct. Last year I was driving a car in a non-tourist area and got stopped at a check point. I was the only foreigner around. I got dinging for not having an IDL. I figured it would not be needed since my license is already printed in English. After paying the 200 baht, I did look it up online and found it was true that an IDL is required even if your license is already in English. I don't have the link at the moment though.
[QUOTE=Xplorer007;1436943]Arrived in Patts yesterday it's low season and very quite I think it's the best time to visit Pattaya, plenty of free lancers on beach road and all over Pattaya average price around 500 to 750 baht some really cute looking girls.[/QUOTE]Where in Pattaya aside from Beach Road can you find girls, cute looking or not, for 500 to 750 baht?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1437032]Least of all I am impressed. My humble place is 54, 000 baht for 365 days (366 days on a leap year).[/QUOTE]Wow! I've never heard of a farang living in an apartment that cheap! Some of the BGs pay more for their rooms than that. How many square meters is your apartment? Does it have air conditioning or is it a fan room? In which part of Pattaya is it located? The Darkside, by any chance?
Evil
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel;1437713]Wow! I've never heard of a farang living in an apartment that cheap! Some of the BGs pay more for their rooms than that. How many square meters is your apartment? Does it have air conditioning or is it a fan room? In which part of Pattaya is it located? The Darkside, by any chance?[/QUOTE]3rd Road Soi 18.
Overview.
24hour Security Balcony Laundry Service Mini-Mart Furniture Coined Laundry Maid Service (Pay) Hot Shower Car Parking Air Conditioner TV Set Cable Channel Refrigerator Broadband Access Free
[QUOTE=HenryV;1437391]Not sure what. "Hey. Don't me take me serious.!". Means?[/QUOTE]Nobody does. He averages 5 posts per day and all equally informative. Pay no mind as I think it's a posting addiction.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1437713]Where in Pattaya aside from Beach Road can you find girls, cute looking or not, for 500 to 750 baht?
Evil[/QUOTE]The Bush Babes. 300bt or less. An occasional cutie.most evil!
Road from near the Big Buddha to the pier.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1437756]3rd Road Soi 18.
Overview.
24hour Security Balcony Laundry Service Mini-Mart Furniture Coined Laundry Maid Service (Pay) Hot Shower Car Parking Air Conditioner TV Set Cable Channel Refrigerator Broadband Access Free[/QUOTE]With the inevitable stampede to your little nest, Landlord will now increase the price, LOL
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1437863]With the inevitable stampede to your little nest, Landlord will now increase the price, LOL[/QUOTE]We do have a new building (January 2013) that rents for I think 6000 or 7000 baht. The building I am in was built in 2008. I have paid the same for 4 years.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1437674]The thing is that is quite possible (nobody so far has gave me a definite, proved answer) that an IDL is required by law in Thailand. So if they want to fine for that, they are technically in the right. However, I think they may (or may not) go for that only that after the easy ones, e. G. No helmet, no Bike D / L, etc. Also as mentioned in other posts: they do the stops almost always at the same spots, at the same hours, day after day, year after year. And they do stop and fine Thai people too. Attached piccies where they stopped this beauty riding pillion with another lady, both had no helmets, the pig wanted to set me up with her, but she smiled to decline. I think they were not fined after all.[/QUOTE]When it comes to the BIB, in Pattaya, I travel each day on my bike 70 KM, and I've been stopped in the past think nearly every check point in Pattaya especially the Darkside. Depending on the location of the checkpoint they have their own rules and their fines seem to be higher in location like Naklau, Banglamung station charged me a 1, 000 baht for a red light. On the Darkside, I get nearly stopped daily and they have never ask me for anything except the paperwork.
From my own experience I noticed somehow they caught on to the IDL, thing, they know full well not many have them especially those just visiting and renting the bike which the bike renter knowing full well the BIB are looking for it. But renting the bike is much more important so nothing is said as to whether you do have a IDL. Last, year I got stopped at Naklau just outside my son school at the same time as another Farang. The Farang had his helmet on so did the passenger and his driver license but didn't have a IDL like me. The cop took my book and pointed to the other guy " you no have " they can't read the book but they been trained ask for this?
Yes, each check point is different and I've seen more than a few times. Farang sitting at light checkpoint on the other side. As soon as the light changes Thai no helmet, Farang with helment everything in tack it is 90% that they will pull the Farang over knowing the % they will not have a IDL, while letting the Thai go. They have a profile if they are young no helmet they will get stopped many times it is to check for immigration status? But in the end, the money = Farang. You see the check point at the light as soon as it turns green wait a few seconds and stay outside on the right never be first. On Beach road near Soi 9, stay outside on the right until you get by Central Festival which has a second checkpoint?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1437876]We do have a new building (January 2013) that rents for I think 6000 or 7000 baht. The building I am in was built in 2008. I have paid the same for 4 years.[/QUOTE]OK, I will check both buildings out. Thanks for the invaluable tip.
Last year was the first year I got stopped multiple times. If I got stopped where there were only 1 or 2 Thai police, they would take a bribe. On Second Road and Beach Road you'll have to go and pay the full fine.
If you are going to rent a bike, get an International Driver's License. It makes no sense not to have one if you rent. You will get pulled over. And you can get pulled over anywhere. I'm getting my International license from my local AAA Auto club. I'm not sure about what to do with a Malaysian license but I would inquire about getting an Int'l Driver's License.
[QUOTE=Allover;1437973]Last year was the first year I got stopped multiple times. If I got stopped where there were only 1 or 2 Thai police, they would take a bribe.[/QUOTE]A bribe for what? Were you actually in the wrong?
[QUOTE=Gunga Din; 1437540]I'm heading to Pattaya in two weeks time, and will post FR's during my stay. Usually I use motorbike taxis to get around Pattaya, but this time I'll be hiring my own rental motorbike. In that regard, I have a question to the experienced people familiar with Pattaya and the police pullovers. How should a Farang deal with a pullover? My driving license is Malaysian, and not an International License. I don't speak Thai. If I was in Malaysia you can negotiate with a pullover, by offering the officer cash rather than him writing out the ticket, usually at a substantial discount to the "fine". So, how can I handle any "pulled-over-for-probably-not-having-an-International-driving-license" police shakedown? Any tips? Oh, and I'm less about saving a hundred THB than I am about navigating the driving situation in advance.
Feel free to PM me, if you prefer not to clutter up this message board with tips like this, or examples, and thanks in advance.
- Gunga Din[/QUOTE]I rent a motorbike each time I go to Pattaya. I reckon on getting pulled over at least once each trip these days. To mitigate, what you can do is:
1 Always carry your driver's licence. If it is not valid for motor bikes (mine isn't) you may or may not get fined (I have been fined only once for this out of 10 pull overs).
2 I may be wrong, but I don't think there is any such thing as an International Driving Licence. There is an International Driving Permit, which effectively validates your own licence in another country. I don't really see the point of it, but technically it might be required. But I have never been asked, and the only time my licence was queried was as above, and an IDP would not have helped.
3 Always carry your rental agreement and check the insurance is inside the bike seat.
4 The police tend to be based in the same place at the same time, so try and avoid them. If you have to go past them, steer to the opposite side of the road and stare fixedly ahead, ignoring their waving (easy to do on second Road, not so easy on Beach Road). They are not too bothered as there will be another victim along shortly.
5 If you think you are being unjustly penalised make it clear, but don't argue too long. It won't make any difference when the ticket has been written out. When you pay the fine (500bht?) don't even discuss with the cashier as he / she will probably refuse to deal with you, leaving you begging for them to take your money so you can get your bike back.
6 This should obviously be #1, but always wear your helmet. Always.
[QUOTE=Allover; 1437973]If you are going to rent a bike, get an International Driver's License. It makes no sense not to have one if you rent. You will get pulled over. And you can get pulled over anywhere. I'm getting my International license from my local AAA Auto club. I'm not sure about what to do with a Malaysian license but I would inquire about getting an Int'l Driver's License.[/QUOTE]As I said, there is no such thing as an IDL:
<< Beware websites selling 'international driving licences' – these aren't legally recognised documents, so don't get caught out.
An AA spokesperson told us: "Some people mistakenly refer to International Driving Permits (IDP) as international driving licences. However, there is no such thing as an international driving licence – they are not legally recognised – so don't be fooled into buying one, as they are not worth the paper they are printed on.
"An IDP, on the other hand, is required or recommended in 139 countries and is recognised internationally – they are issued in accordance with Road Traffic Conventions, which stipulate that they can only be issued by motoring organisations or motoring authorities." >>
[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1438037]As I said, there is no such thing as an IDL:
<< Beware websites selling 'international driving licences' – these aren't legally recognised documents, so don't get caught out.
An AA spokesperson told us: "Some people mistakenly refer to International Driving Permits (IDP) as international driving licences. However, there is no such thing as an international driving licence – they are not legally recognised – so don't be fooled into buying one, as they are not worth the paper they are printed on.
"An IDP, on the other hand, is required or recommended in 139 countries and is recognised internationally – they are issued in accordance with Road Traffic Conventions, which stipulate that they can only be issued by motoring organisations or motoring authorities." [/QUOTE]Yes, you are correct! It is a PERMIT! Translation in conversation we are talking License when it is actually PERMIT!
Traveling to Phuket in the first week of July.
I am holding an Indian Driving License.
Went to the officials here and they issued an International Driving Permit, which they said was valid in many countries including Thailand. This is valid for a year, after which I can have the same renewed.
The IDP has my pciture and stamped by the relevant authorities.
I guess that should not be a problem as it is validated by the authorities here in India.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1438044]Yes, you are correct! It is a PERMIT! Translation in conversation we are talking License when it is actually PERMIT![/QUOTE]Yes, an IDP. However, cops will not ever spell Permit. They will say "international License" and that is how is known universally.
And, there are two "versions" of that, depending on the year of the Convention. I don't even know which one Thailand has ratified, some countries will issue either to your choice, some country like the US, one type only.
And if you really want dig deep int this crazed bullshit, read on.
"the period of validity of an international license shall be either no more than three years after the date of issue or until the date of expiry of the domestic driver's license, whichever is earlier;"
Meaning that (in theory) on normal 5-year valid D / L, you should not be able to have an IDP after three years you had the national license!
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Driving_Permit[/url]
I remember seeing a price list will all the bar fine and drink cost for the bars / clubs in Pattaya. Does anyone know where I can find this?
[QUOTE=Marcos;1438072]Meaning that (in theory) on normal 5-year valid D / L, you should not be able to have an IDP after three years you had the national license![/QUOTE]Normal? That's only normal for a particular country in North America. My license expires in 20 years.
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1438072]Yes, an IDP. However, cops will not ever spell Permit. They will say "international License" and that is how is known universally.
And, there are two "versions" of that, depending on the year of the Convention. I don't even know which one Thailand has ratified, some countries will issue either to your choice, some country like the US, one type only.
And if you really want dig deep int this crazed bullshit, read on.
"the period of validity of an international license shall be either no more than three years after the date of issue or until the date of expiry of the domestic driver's license, whichever is earlier;"
Meaning that (in theory) on normal 5-year valid D / L, you should not be able to have an IDP after three years you had the national license!
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Driving_Permit[/url][/QUOTE]All this is fine and dandy! But forget it all. I've use a International Permit for a number of years in fact for nearly 10 years for AAA in the USA.
I've been stopped hundreds of time and only paid 4 fines in all those years and believe me I was always in the wrong just got caught. I've had family here visiting for months coming and going for years and they bring with them their IDP from AAA, and they don't have motorbike license at home the IDP isn't stamp for motorbike but I have made one and stamp it for them just in case!
In the end, believe it or not and I have said this a few times. They know what one looks like but get thsi 99. 9% they can't read! So no matter how many years they can't read and don't even know what the IDP allows each holder to do? I've given them a expired book once by mistake the date was something in front like Janaury 31, 2011, it is valid for 1 year from this date.
My cousin just got his doesn't even have a motorbike license from home. I stamped his book and we took it down to the License office, made the necessary copies and got the resident certification, health certificate and didn't even have to take the driving test, just the eye!
Most of them can't read it is a joke. I was stopped a number of years ago by a Tourist Police British guy on Sukhumvit checkpoint he told me if I lived here get a license because he told me that my IDP was only good for driving on Sukhumvit that it isn't good if I turn left or right into town. I told him is everything in order he said yes! I told him before you give that information out again think about what you just said because it is real stupid!
LBM
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1438080]Normal? That's only normal for a particular country in North America. My license expires in 20 years.[/QUOTE]Which country? I'm American and my state license expires in 30 years.
A normal decent catch late at Marine disco. BTW that is where I'm seeing the best looking ones, there is to say that men are mostly of the youngish type there.
We get dancing, at the same table there were two other girls, one very good looking and a regular one. Both clearly stuck up bitches, after a while the regular make some kind of shitface to me. For how much jovial and easy going I don't take disrespect from envious sillies, and rebuff her on the head. Oh they made a fuss about it, that my girl, in typical Thai style tried to conciliate, saying that they were their friends. Of course they were not. So we left and she goes in drunk loop of saying "disco lady speaks no good and they sleep together", that almost got on my nerve after a while. Other than that she did all the needed actions but beside a nice smile and laugh her personality is not enough for a repeat. Others are better in that sense, but are lacking sexually, so it's hard to balance sometime. Limited damage 1K LT.
The night before I got something similar after parting ways with Broadfield (hi matey) , also forgot her name.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1438122]Which country? I'm American and my state license expires in 30 years.[/QUOTE]See how different country to country and state to state can be. Newly released Calif. Licenses are 4 years. And most countries limit vality to like 5 yrs before a renewal is due, because they want doctors make money checking your health and vision. In all cases I have never heard of 30 years validity.
I think I misunderstood myself the sentence that I posted before IDP vality. As others have noted, doesn't matters at all. If the cops want to fine / extract money you they will. That can be minimized by a some good talking, or in extreme cases pulling out a powerful lawyer or high ranking cop business card and start calling will help. But we're not talking about the 200 Bt problems.
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1438072]"the period of validity of an international license shall be either no more than three years after the date of issue or until the date of expiry of the domestic driver's license, whichever is earlier;"
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Driving_Permit[/url][/QUOTE]There are two international conventions ruling the IDP.
One makes the IDP valid for 12 months.
Another one makes the IDP valid for 18 months.
No matter what and for how long the national driving permit is valid (of course the IDP may not valif after the original national permit is valid)
As I (might) need the IDP in USA, I need have to make one every year since USA stick to the convention granting IDP validity of 12 months (thank you uncle Sam!) whilst other countries accept the IDP convention granting a validity of 18 months.
Nobody checks the IDP when you rent a car in USA, but in some states some boring cops might ask for it and if you don't have it you are in trouble.
Other countries do check the IDP when you rent the car.
Hi can some please post the phone number of this bar? My favorite thai is now working there.
So, would you say this is a hard and fast rule and that NO Thai girl is worth 4000Bt?
[QUOTE=Opebo;1437027]No the analogy would be if you offered the airline 100, 000 baht for your ticket, and the hotel 70, 000 for the room. That's what overpaying means. Paying more than the actual price. It has nothing to do with your budget (but just to reassure you, we're all quite impressed).[/QUOTE]
Thank you for all the generous postings, and info, regarding my earlier question about driving your own motorbike in Pattaya, and the reality of the situation with the IDP and with bribes. Very helpful to me, and I hope also to others, in reading this forum. I'll be looking to get a IDP before I head out to Pattaya in less than two weeks, but I'm not sure it can be arranged by then. I may either wing it, or go back to lining the pockets of motorbike taxis at least only for one more trip.
I'll begin posting my upcoming FRs, beginning after my arrival on July 4 evening. Devil's Den is on my list, followed by a young Zombie girl from Supergirl the day after, and then on to the Coconut Bar for more reasonable rates. Failing that, Soi 6 in the afternoons, methinks.
Cheers,
- Gunga
[QUOTE=Marcos;1438131]See how different country to country and state to state can be. Newly released Calif. Licenses are 4 years. And most countries limit vality to like 5 yrs before a renewal is due, because they want doctors make money checking your health and vision. In all cases I have never heard of 30 years validity.[/QUOTE]I am from Georgia. Our regular license is valid for 15 years. Since I am a veteran it is free and ours is for 30 years.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1438187]I am from Georgia. Our regular license is valid for 15 years. Since I am a veteran it is free and ours is for 30 years.[/QUOTE]As they say. Only in America.
Or in Thailand, should I add!
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1438035]4 The police tend to be based in the same place at the same time, so try and avoid them. If you have to go past them, steer to the opposite side of the road and stare fixedly ahead, ignoring their waving (easy to do on second Road, not so easy on Beach Road). They are not too bothered as there will be another victim along shortly.[/QUOTE]
This is the best advice. I've often seen Thais simply drive away from the police. Unless they are physically grabbing you, or standing directly in your path, there's really no need to stop - they never chase anyone. (well other than the poor freelancers on Beach Road :( )
[QUOTE=Marcos;1438128]A normal decent catch late at Marine disco. BTW that is where I'm seeing the best looking ones.[/QUOTE]Love the pic, nice work. Got to love denim shorts.
I met a girl at one of the massage parlours who told me that she goes to Marine when her shift finishes. I think quite a few of the MP and gogo girls do this. Either that or go to one of the other clubs. I saw a very pretty girl in I-BAR on Walking Street.
I visited Pattaya last week, and I have the impression that the action has REALLY slowed down for the rainy season? Not much happening before 9 pm, and even then some gogo mamasans were almost annoyed at an early BF (the girls, predictably, were thrilled.). Apparently because it thinned their dancing lines even further. In the beer bars the knowledge of English (always less developed in Patts than in BKK) was weaker than ever: "Me no speak English. Me only come Pattaya two weeks ago!" I even had the impression that some bars had rolled in some seasonal replacement workers.
I had a very good experience with a MILF from Soi Diana, who spoke almost no English and was a total novice to Patts. At first I thought she was a widow who'd fallen on hard times, but no, she was a hardened pro who loved deep anal and all kinds of role plays. Explanation? As I gradually found out, she'd been working the local guys in the brothels of Kalasin for the last 15 years. Apparently she'd been called to Pattaya as a stop-gap (no pun intended!) during the slow season. In this case it worked out in my favour. However, one is not always lucky. In Oasis (third road) I noticed that they were so short-handed that they rotated their waitresses over the gogo stage. I took a liking for a youngish BBW in a white shirt and a black skirt and bar-fined her. (No problem, even at end-afternoon.) She turned out to be another seasonal from Isaan, and unlike the woman from Kalasin this one had the attitude of the average street girl: "I don't do this; I don't like that; just pay me and be satisfied!"
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1438131]See how different country to country and state to state can be. Newly released Calif. Licenses are 4 years. And most countries limit vality to like 5 yrs before a renewal is due, because they want doctors make money checking your health and vision. In all cases I have never heard of 30 years validity...[/QUOTE]My latest license was issued in 2005 because I lost my old card. It has a renewal date that says 2046. At that time I will be 70. That is the standard in our country that your initial license is valid to your 70th birthday. After that you have to have a check every year or so.
I'm about to crash after a long, almost fruitless night, but came to the conclusion that unless things change, this is not anymore the place that it was and one should come here with expectation greatly reduced.
Enough to say that to just finish the night without an eyesore in the room, I had to raid Beach Road at 6 am, because nothing, anywhere else had worked.
Will elaborate as strength and will come back. For now be reassured that for the spoiled punter it's a sad situation here.
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1438716]I'm about to crash after a long, almost fruitless night, and came to the conclusion that unless things changes, this is not anymore the place that it was and one should come here with expectation greatly reduced.
Enough to say that to just finish the night I had to raid Beach Road at 6 am, because nothing, anywhere else had worked.
Will elaborate as strenght and will come back to me. But for now be reassured that for the spoiled punter it's a sad situation here.[/QUOTE]I've never been a fan of Pattaya. The Stickman Weekly Article that came out this past Sunday does not paint a rosy picture of the place; and several people I know who have visited Pattaya at various times over the past year were unimpressed.
Marcos, Priamos, with my arrival shortly your posts are worthy of Gold to one such as myself. Pattaya is at it's best when in low season, bring on the rain. I shall enjoy even more so, should be bargain basement prices out there, buyers market. Perfect!
Bizaare question: Nearest Tesco to Beach Road? Am I correct in believing there being one on 3rd, South Pattaya Road?
[QUOTE=Noddy;1438737]Bizaare question: Nearest Tesco to Beach Road? Am I correct in believing there being one on 3rd, South Pattaya Road?[/QUOTE]Small one Soi Buakhao. Big one North Pattaya Road or Sukhumvit.
Will land in Pattaya next week. I love your point of view! It makes perfect sense.
Just wondering, how bad is the flood right now?
[QUOTE=Noddy;1438737]Marcos, Priamos, with my arrival shortly your posts are worthy of Gold to one such as myself. Pattaya is at it's best when in low season, bring on the rain. I shall enjoy even more so, should be bargain basement prices out there, buyers market. Perfect![/QUOTE]
Went to Nightwish for the first time and had a memorable experience, albeit not a good one.
While I was wakling down Soi 6 I was drawn into Nightwish by a little spinner called Ae (or something that sounds similar). Though I'm all into pooying lek lek she didn't have to ask twice. Got a drink and had a nice chat and some good laughs with her.
Finally I pulled the trigger and barfined her. But before we went up Ae asked me to give her some money so she could buy some condoms, she didn't have any. I was kind of stunned, but gave her 50 THB anyway.
Up in the room we took a shower together and everything still seemed to be fine, but once in the bed, things went downhill.
- obviously Ae isn't I big kisser or at least she doesn't like to kiss me.
- Ae insisted on giving a CBJ even I asked for BBBJ.
- she seemed to get tired early of giving a BJ so she changed to HJ.
- I told her that's not the way I like so she tried to sit on top of me for a cowgirl, couldn't do it and complained about being hurt; jep nidnoi.
That was one turn off too much for me. I dressed up again, told Ae that I wasn't pleased how she was doing things, gave her 500 THB for her "efforts" and left.
I have no idea what went wrong, but I wasn't in the mood to find out. Maybe was reaction was wrong, so feel free to bash me, but I think I couldn't have handled it better or differently. I passed on talking to mamasan about that because I was already pissed off.
I went to straight to Redpoint bar and had a great one hour fuck with Bee. That saved my Soi 6 experience.
Zauberfee,
Surprise you had that kind of problem at NW, since the owners who also own or related run Skybar and Pussy Club too. They came a year or so ago with the intend of saving Soi 6, from its decline. They throws lots of parties and seem to make sure all the girls there give what the customers like which seem to be all the things you didn't get. Many of the girls working at these bars because of their services level to please are asking BF. 350 which includes the room and 1, 000 for ST, although negotiating one can get lower?
LBM
[QUOTE=Zauberfee;1438893]Went to Nightwish for the first time and had a memorable experience, albeit not a good one.[/QUOTE]*
Why anybody should bash you, you handled it very well.
[quote]I went to straight to Redpoint bar and had a great one hour fuck with Bee. That saved my Soi 6 experience.[/quote]Is Bee at least attractive? I've never been a supporter of "looks first", but the almost complete lack of them is killing any lust.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1438903]Surprise you had that kind of problem at NW[/QUOTE]Yep, I was surprised as well.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1438903]Many of the girls working at these bars because of their services level to please .[/QUOTE]I agree that Nightwish and the girls who work there get many good reviews all over the internet. Obviously I had some kind of bad luck. Fortunately I easily got over it.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1438907]Is Bee at least attractive?[/QUOTE]IMHO she is. Cute face, nice body (albeit with some help of Mr. Wonderbra) , good attitude and a great performer. I don't ask for more
I went to Private Dancer last night, mainly to grab a cheap beer, take a short look at some more or less sexy dancers and then go on.
Fortunately all went differently.
When I entered Private Dancer the bar was already packed with guys, most of them quite "experienced" or you might also say old. Though there were no seats available next to the dancing stage the waitress brought me over to the jacuzzi.
At the jacuzzi I was greeted by showgirl Pat, sticking her pussy in my face. Usually groping a girl at a bar is not my style, but boy obviously I was wrong about that. Pat is definately not a stunner, rather an average looking girl at best who is very cheerful and playful but for some kind of reason I liked her immediately. Therefore I throw all my attitude and preferences overboard, grabbed her ass and started licking her pussy.
From there on things escalated fast.
Drinks loosened up the atmosphere, so more DFK's, more pussy licking, more groping, more fun. And it got "worse" when we were joined by Pat's friend Nok. Nok is way more sexy, but very playful and naughty at the same time. She definately knows who to get guys on in a bar. So even more pussy licking, more DFK's, more fingering, girl-girl pussy licking, girl-girl kissing, tequila shots flown all around and I got a BJ from Nok right in the bar. Sounds great, doesn't it? Was truly great indeed!
So finally I barfined both Pat and Nok. But before we went back to the hotel, we stopped at Babydolls where both girls know a couple of girls and Mamasan the. So more drinks and lot's of fun before we finally went off.
In the room the fun continued. Pat and Nok put on a good show on me, a great threesome for one hour before I finally blew my load. Pat and Nok are not genuine bi-lesbian but they put on a good lesbian show comparable to the show from the Devil Den girls show.
Then I ran out of condoms, ran out of money and ran out of energy and thankfully the girls wanted to leave, I was done for the night (and I still am.)
For those who also went to Private Dancer last night and were offended by what I was doing, I deeply apologize. For those who were pissed off by me because I occupied the showgirls, I apologize as well. But frankly spoken, I don't care at all. I had great fun, the girls had great fun, we simply had a great time. And that's all that did matter to me. Call me egostic, but I still don't care.
A great night. A memorable night. And an expensive night as well. All in all I dropped 8. 000 THB on drinks, more drinks, barfine and the girls. Maybe not enough bang for my buck but hell of a fun anyway.
[QUOTE=Zauberfee;1439238]A great night. A memorable night. And an expensive night as well. All in all I dropped 8. 000 THB on drinks, more drinks, barfine and the girls. Maybe not enough bang for my buck but hell of a fun anyway.[/QUOTE]Out of curiosity, how much did each girl want for a short time session?
Before I had said that at Marine Disco there were more good looking ones than other places. Well that is not even true. It's just a big averaged mix with no definite good and bad places to go. The Beach girls. Or ladies, are of the same looks and attitudes as the bars ladies, or massage, or discos, everywhere.
If there is a difference, that could be the best go-go, or some "elite" fishbowl, but I don't go to these, so I can't tell. It's like, in theory one could have a good finding anywhere, but the probabilities are equally small for all places.
To explain myself, take Car on the wall, there was one single girl that was attractive, an 8+ in her class, a petite with a very pretty face and body. No other petites. No "elegant-lady I-am-not-an-hooker" styled ones. Nothing worth to take home at any price. But since I had a small issue with her a couple nights before, (when she wanted to dictate to how many places we go and how many drinks we have at 4am, and I did not let her) , it had become a matter of face saving, so I just said hi, she acted a little stupid again, but she had a guy anyway.
Marine disco again. Few and really few pretties, these at 3am invariably have a customer, generally young men. Chances are they meet somewhere else too. A little annoying, is that there are women, aged or not even, of an unbeliavable ugliness, and ladyboys are allowed too, that is kind of unheard for Thai establishments catering to Farangs. Remove the Katoys, add a good hip-hop live show, slighty higher drink prices, and you have Lucifer, where I got the Isaan girl pictured. I can ensure your that this type of body, with a lovely rond ass (the picture doesn't do her justice) is not the average. Just to be clear on the matter, the fair price for LT with a disco pickup is still between 1 and 1. 5, depending on circumstances. Please do not spoil the market especially in the current scarcity.
Mixx, in the late hours is also probably not even worth to go that far. There you to see the overweights being the definite majority. Again, there was a single one good looking smaller girl, she seemed to busy dancing, and distracted. Never insist in these cases. And a couple made-up stuck-ups drinking water, or busy with their tablets, avoid at all cost.
The other dawn when I went to the Beach in recovery mode after the failed trip (more on this laters) , I took a lady that had very good english, good manners and attitude and good looks, being tall and very slim. I tried to say that the disco would have been a better place for her, but she doesn't care for that. They just do pretty much what they are inclined to, be it rational or not, that adds another variable to the equation that we finance.
On this note, I had a couple random girls coming to my room for a trio. They had verbally agreed to the normal demands for the situation, appear relaxed and friendly, then just before we get things moving the older one ask to be paid in advance (1K each). I say no, never. I showed that I had the money and that them being two, they should not worry. She said that since one guy did not paid her once, now it has to be like that. I replied that he was not me, asked how many guys did indeed pay after the fact. No way, they marched out without even asking for taxi money. Their loss really.
I still plan few days in Pattaya, meet with Skogis, we'll see what the night will bring.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1439243]Out of curiosity, how much did each girl want for a short time session?[/QUOTE]They didn't ask for anything, I just gave each of them 2. 000 THB, no one complained about that.
[QUOTE=Zauberfee; 1439238]I went to Private Dancer last night, mainly to grab a cheap beer, take a short look at some more or less sexy dancers and then go on. Fortunately all went differently. For those who also went to Private Dancer last night and were offended by what I was doing, I deeply apologize. For those who were pissed off by me because I occupied the showgirls, I apologize as well. But frankly spoken, I don't care at all. I had great fun, the girls had great fun, we simply had a great time. And that's all that did matter to me. Call me egostic, but I still don't care.
A great night. A memorable night. And an expensive night as well. All in all I dropped 8. 000 THB on drinks, more drinks, barfine and the girls. Maybe not enough bang for my buck but hell of a fun anyway.[/QUOTE]Your time, your fun, your money. One can then remark or comment, but can't judge, IMHO.
[QUOTE=Zauberfee; 1439238]I went to Private Dancer last night, mainly to grab a cheap beer, take a short look at some more or less sexy dancers and then go on.
Then I ran out of condoms, ran out of money and ran out of energy and thankfully the girls wanted to leave, I was done for the night (and I still am.) [/QUOTE]Awesome, man! Unapologetic hedonism! Way to rock the casbah.
- Gunga
I have to really thank everybody on this forum for educating me about the Thai mongering scene. I booked my plane tickets last night. Going to be leaving Tokyo on the 26th of August!
This realy gave me something to look forward to. Add to the fact that several members have mentioned that it is the low season and prices have dropped makes me giggle like a kid in a candy store!
I plan to try a little bit of everything (on top of the regular touristy things I will be doing).
Will the end of August still be the low season? Someone wrote that beach road girls can be found for 500-750 baht. Would the rates for go-go and bar girls also drop down?
If anybody is in the area during those few days, I'd love to get together with some of you. I will treat you guys with some of the beer we grab at the bars.
By the way, what would you say a cmfortable budget is per day, excluding hotel?
[QUOTE=Zauberfee;1439238]A great night. A memorable night. And an expensive night as well.[/QUOTE]Hi Zauberfee, Sounds as if you had a REALLY GREAT time.
Good for you. We all deserve a treat now and again. After all "it's only money!"
You can always even it out by using "Coconut Bar"at500 Baht a time for the next few days.
Enjoy,
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1438725]I've never been a fan of Pattaya. The Stickman Weekly Article that came out this past Sunday does not paint a rosy picture of the place; and several people I know who have visited Pattaya at various times over the past year were unimpressed.[/QUOTE]Well that settles it then. Stickman AND a couple random visitors. Stick a fork in it. It's done.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1438725]I've never been a fan of Pattaya. The Stickman Weekly Article that came out this past Sunday does not paint a rosy picture of the place; and several people I know who have visited Pattaya at various times over the past year were unimpressed.[/QUOTE]Ok, you have never been a fan.
I read Stickmans article and found it rather useless for any monger considering a visit to Pattaya.
He mainly focus on WS and many mongers knows that WS is a bit touristy. Big deal. Soi 6 is not even mentioned. He mentions soi 7 and 8 which are pretty boring streets IMHO. If he felt that Pattaya is not a prime monger place anymore he should have visited Soi 6 and LK Metro more.
He says that when big name bars are struggling things are bad. That is BS. That is just mongers rejecting these bars attempts to change Pattaya to a place with crazy expensive bars filled with crazy expensive agency girls.
If you and others do not like Pattaya fair enough, I just do not understand why you visit the Pattaya board then? Why not just concentrate on the boards with the destinations you like?
[QUOTE=Betong;1439381]Well that settles it then. Stickman AND a couple random visitors. Stick a fork in it. It's done.[/QUOTE]Hey, sorry to hit a sore spot. Just expressing some opinions. Stickman is one very well informed opinion with many years of intimate knowledge of the LOS. And yes, my opinion is based on a couple of random visits, per year over a number of years. I once liked it; no more. I know or know of several guys who went there in the last couple of years. None have any desire to go back. It attracts a certain class of non-sex tourists in ever increasing numbers; the SW are not the most attractive in LOS and are getting less and less attractive; and the beach is lousy. It will appeal to some guys; but it's not for everyone. In my opinion, if one has never visited Pattaya its worth one very short visit before visiting Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1439367]Raise your standards fella. Prices are down-can't argue with that. You will have your choice of the girls nobody wants to touch with a 10 foot pole.[/QUOTE]Oh my standards are higher than that. I just didn't know how to gauge the prices during this season. I'm not afraid to pay more for better looking talent.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1439458]I once liked it; no more.[/QUOTE]Pattaya's always changing, that's for sure. It's a different place than it was ten years ago, and was very different again ten years before that. But it's also grown enormously, and has so much on offer that I find it a bit silly to dismiss the whole place. Nobody has to like it, and there are certainly aspects of it that I like a lot less than when I started hanging out there in the late '70s. Still I find plenty to keep me amused, and I know any number of veteran mongers a whole lot more experienced than Mr. Stickman who'd agree. But each to his own.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1438725]I've never been a fan of Pattaya. The Stickman Weekly Article that came out this past Sunday does not paint a rosy picture of the place; and several people I know who have visited Pattaya at various times over the past year were unimpressed.[/QUOTE]Ah, Stickman, the absolute expert in LOS; give me a break. Anyone that sits behind a computer for days and weeks on end has to be the expert; not quite.
Have you been to Pattaya? If so, how many times?
So if Pattaya is not as good as other places in the world to practice this sport of mine; then where do you suggest is better? Quantity, quality, venues, beaches, and value. Where should I go!
Wait, I should ask Stickman, who never leaves LOS, and for good reason; it rules!
[QUOTE=Betong;1439561]Pattaya's always changing, that's for sure. It's a different place than it was ten years ago, and was very different again ten years before that. But it's also grown enormously, and has so much on offer that I find it a bit silly to dismiss the whole place. Nobody has to like it, and there are certainly aspects of it that I like a lot less than when I started hanging out there in the late '70s. Still I find plenty to keep me amused, and I know any number of veteran mongers a whole lot more experienced than Mr. Stickman who'd agree. But each to his own.[/QUOTE]Your point is well taken; I don't think Stickman is the authority on Thailand; and he seems to know more about Bangkok than Pattaya. I find his weekly column to be worthwhile reading, especially for a first time or infrequent visitor.
The last time I was in Pattaya, in 2007, the non-sex tourists were noticeably on the increase and I had no desire to ever go back. I should mention over about 20 years I've spent a fair amount of time in East and SE Asia, on business, not as a sex tourist. Pattaya was a little side trip I'd take from time to time when in Bangkok. I never bothered to keep track of the names and specific establishments. I just knew generally where to find the SW's. So I never had deep knowledge of the place and my opinions are based on a couple dozen one or two day visits spread out over about 15 years.
My motivation was to make it clear to first time visitors that they should do their research and have realistic expectation to avoid disappointment.
For what it's worth, I have a friend who first visited Pattaya in 1968. He flew a helicopter in another SE Asian country back in those days. I grew up with a few other guys who spent involuntary time in the region in the late 60's. They love to talk about sleeping on the beach, eating the best freshly cooked chicken and spending time with the sweetest young ladies. They claims there was no such thing as ST. They'd hook up with a sweetie and be taken care of until it was time to go back to work. They'd give the girls however many baht they had left in their pocket, not knowing whether they'd be back or taking their next trip in a box. The girls were happy with that. Of course these guys were in their early twenties and in pretty good shape from long walks in the countryside carrying a bunch of gear. I get the impression the girls were just happy to spend a few days with a young American GI. They had fun for free and got a little money when they said goodbye. That was enough for them. In the mid 2000's a couple of these guys went back to revisit Vietnam and do a little tour of the region, including Pattaya and Bangkok. They found the changes shocking.
Like I wrote in a previous post, if you have a couple days to spare it's worthwhile seeing Pattaya at least once, but it has changed dramatically over the years.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1439578]Wait, I should ask Stickman, who never leaves LOS, and for good reason; it rules![/QUOTE]The problem isn't that he doesn't leave Thailand but that he, or whoever is running the site now, hasn't been a real player for years. Stickman was one of a number of fellows who got here back here in the first boom years of international sex tourism (the '90s or so, I forget) and within a few months set himself up online as an authority. His usual line was 'I'm not expert but', after which he'd pontificate like an expert. Then he got married and, worse yet, involved his wife in his website. So his ability to do any real research was pretty much hopelessly compromised, at which point he had to begin relying on outside contributors.
I know he has or at least had fans among tourists and newbies but I don't think anybody who's lived here for a while takes him too seriously. If he doesn't like Pattaya, well that's fine but I suspect he doesn't know more than a small percentage of what goes on there. So my advice to anyone is, check the place out. If you don't like it, that's OK. But at least decide on your own.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1439578]Ah, Stickman, the absolute expert in LOS; give me a break. Anyone that sits behind a computer for days and weeks on end has to be the expert; not quite.[/QUOTE]I think he knows quite a bit about Bangkok. And I wouldn't call him a bad journalist. Well, come to think of it, I wouldn't call him a journalist. His website is designed to attract advertising; and years ago a senior VP at Viacom told me,"what you call content is just filler in between the commercials." You'll learn far, far more about mongering in LOS on ISG. However, I think his column is one place to get some good information about Bangkok. I think it best serves guys who are just beginning to learn about the city. But hey, you might get lucky, identify the location of one of the photos and win a free burrito! I find it a way to keep up with some of the changes while I'm away, for example: the renovations as NEP, the demise of the artist bars, the proliferation of ladyboy bars in NEP, and some of the changes in names and ownership of bars. His most recent column confirmed that what I began to notice in Pattaya in 2004 and 2005 is far worse now. I can appreciate that a perceptive person who is a long time resident of Bangkok gets limited value out of his column. And some of you may be able to write a better column. I'm serious!
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1439578]Have you been to Pattaya? If so, how many times?[/QUOTE]As I mention in another post about twenty-five time from the early 90's to 2005. And I have buddies who have told me many stories about what it was like in the late 1960's.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1439578]So if Pattaya is not as good as other places in the world to practice this sport of mine; then where do you suggest is better? Quantity, quality, venues, beaches, and value. Where should I go![/QUOTE]If you're looking for sex, economy and some sort of a beach it's not a bad place. My problems with it are there are far better beaches in Thailand and far prettier SW in Bangkok. But you can get drunk and frequently fucked for far less than in Bangkok. I'd rather book a good looker in Bangkok and a small villa in Hua Hin for a few days and enjoy much better beaches at what I find to be a much more pleasant locale. However, I think it would be stupid or cruel to suggest anyone go to Hua Hin for mongering.
[QUOTE=Betong;1439789]I know he has or at least had fans among tourists and newbies but I don't think anybody who's lived here for a while takes him too seriously. If he doesn't like Pattaya, well that's fine but I suspect he doesn't know more than a small percentage of what goes on there. So my advice to anyone is, check the place out. If you don't like it, that's OK. But at least decide on your own.[/QUOTE]Agree! If you're going to Bangkok and have a couple of extra days you really should visit Pattaya. Once. Just don't expect a nice beach and lots of good looking SW; and expect to be gawked at by the throngs of "regular tourist." If it meets your needs, great. Some guys are going to be disappointed unless they have very modest expectations; and it's definitely no longer for me.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1439367]Raise your standards fella. Prices are down-can't argue with that. You will have your choice of the girls nobody wants to touch with a 10 foot pole.[/QUOTE]Indeed he will have his choice of girls that nobody wants to touch. However he will most likely come across a good number of nice looking lasses, (as I always do) without the attitude that those in go-go's have and he would have to pay many times more for!
Enjoy DaniChan.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1439633]Nobodys hating on Pattaya. We are just truthfully informing people of what its like there. It is not filled with beauties. Never has been and probably never will be.[/QUOTE]For anyone planning a visit to Pattaya you might want to ignore Harold's comments. He admitted recently that he has never been to Pattaya and never will go. His main reason for this by his own admission is that a Bangkok gogo girl told him that the girls are ugly! You couldn't make it up. Harold lecturing us on Pattaya is like the Queen of England running a gangster rap seminar.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1439765]The last time I was in Pattaya, in 2007, the non-sex tourists were noticeably on the increase and I had no desire to ever go back.[/QUOTE]Are you saying that you let non-sex tourists get in your way? Last time I checked most places that have mongering also have non-sex tourists, especially Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1439765]Like I wrote in a previous post, if you have a couple days to spare it's worthwhile seeing Pattaya at least once, but it has changed dramatically over the years.[/QUOTE]Everything and everyone change dramatically over the years. Change is part of life and society. We change, but expect the things around us to stay the same? The main thing is that there is still cheap pussy and I can still get it. That definitely has not changed.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1439765]For what it's worth, I have a friend who first visited Pattaya in 1968. Of course these guys were in their early twenties and in pretty good shape from long walks in the countryside carrying a bunch of gear. I get the impression the girls were just happy to spend a few days with a young American GI. They had fun for free and got a little money when they said goodbye. That was enough for them. In the mid 2000's a couple of these guys went back to revisit Vietnam and do a little tour of the region, including Pattaya and Bangkok. They found the changes shocking.[/QUOTE]This still exists. Did your friends happen to mention if at that time there were guys the age they are now doing that same thing back then? I seriously doubt there were. The biggest variable is that your friends were young back then. Now they are in what their upper 60s at least?
When I was a young GI, I was stationed in San Diego and would run down to the discos in Tijuana every weekend. Me and my shipmates were able to pick up young chicks by the pound for free. Now that I'm 41 I don't moan about how back then I could go into Tequila Sunrise drinking Dos Equis all night and meet a 19 year old and go to the closest motel, but the place has gone to shit because today it no longer works out that way for me. I would look and feel pretty ridiculous going back to those same clubs trying to pick up 18-20 year-old women who crossed the border to drink and party. But I have no doubt that today there are still guys who are the age that I was back then doing those same things this weekend. These days I instead go the opposite way to the fuck clubs and hooker alley where I know someone of my age is accepted and not out of place.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1439938]Are you saying that you let non-sex tourists get in your way? Last time I checked most places that have mongering also have non-sex tourists, especially Bangkok.[/QUOTE]It was 2007, or 2005, or maybe 2006 when I last visited Pattaya. In the early 1990's and for the next ten years or so I remember it as a compact place filled with nothing but mongers and sex workers. The last time I was there I began to notice increasing number of non-sex tourists who were treating the people working either side of the sex trade as a dirty show to gawk at. The gawkers annoyed me. That alone was not enough to keep me away. It was the just proverbial straw. Equally noticeable and important was a significant decline in the looks and attitude of the SW. Add to that the increasing congestion and I had enough!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1439938]Everything and everyone change dramatically over the years. Change is part of life and society. The main thing is that there is still cheap pussy and I can still get it. That definitely has not changed.[/QUOTE]Good point. I have certainly change; and this may be part of why I like Pattaya less than I used to. Hell, when I was in my 20's I'd get drunk as a skunk in Nassau, pass out on the beach, wake up the next afternoon and think nothing of it. Of course that was in the 1960's. I wouldn't try that today. In part because I would expect to get hauled in; in part because I'm too old.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1439938]This still exists. The biggest variable is that your friends were young back then. Now they are in what their upper 60s at least? When I was a young GI I was stationed in San Diego and would run down to the discos in Tijuana every weekend. I was able to pick up young chicks by the pound for free. Now that I'm 41 I would look and feel pretty ridiculous going back to those same clubs trying to pick up 18-20 year-old women who crossed the border to drink and party. These days I instead go the opposite way to the fuck clubs and hooker alley.[/QUOTE]Pattaya in the 1960's before the war escalated was a fishing village. There was no sex industry there. It started with a few GIs hooking up with few young Thai ladies who were already there. The GIs told stories about their experiences, which attracted more GIs, which started to draw young women to the village. The formal sex industry grew out of this. My friends are in their late 60s. They went back for some nostalgia, to satisfy a bit of curiosity and probably to finally rid themselves of a demon or two. But I do agree with your general point.
- I'll be in Patts 8 Aug to 11 Sep (with a coupla nights in Phnom Penh to do a visa renewal) so if anyone wants to meet up for a drink PM me or contact me on my Thai cellphone 091-583-2295. I'll be staying at the Jasmine Hotel.
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- Hope to catch Mr. Enternational, LittleBigMan, and any other cool BMs in paradise.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1439938]The biggest variable is that your friends were young back then. Now they are in what their upper 60s at least?
When I was a young GI, I was stationed in San Diego and would run down to the discos in Tijuana every weekend. Me and my shipmates were able to pick up young chicks by the pound for free. These days I instead go the opposite way to the fuck clubs and hooker alley where I know someone of my age is accepted and not out of place.[/QUOTE]Amen brother. I was going to make the same point. It seems like a never-ending point raised by monger after monger. I think it is undoubtedly true that LOS is changing, but so are we. This makes objective measurement quite difficult really, and it gives newbies the false impression that there is not much to see here.
I entered Walking Street around 10 pm and was amazed at how many tourists there were. I had not yet read this thread. There where busloads of Asian tourists and streetdancing shows in the street. For me this was a surprise since I haven't visited Pattaya for ten years. Fat white men were parading their fat white wives and (!) their fat little kids through walking street. European women in groups of four or five could be seen shaking their heads at the decadence, stealing feigned troubled glances at korean tourists whom they obviously mistook for thai working girls. When a group of japanese youngsters came up to me to have their pictures taken with a "genuine sex tourist" I finally understood that I was part of the tourist attraction and quickly made my way up a quiet alley to catch my breath and a ride to LK Metro.
There are certainly non-sex tourists in all red light districts but I have yet to see one that beats Walking Street 2013 in terms of quantity at such a late hour. LK Metro was IMO much better in terms of clientele. I visited two GoGos along the street, in the first one there was a diabolical lineup with at least four or five real lookers. There were so many girls in there it was hard to choose what to look at. Unfortunately a very drunk and clingy girl landed her ass in my lap as soon as I had sat down and wouldn't let go for the first three drinks I had there, at last I bought her a couple of lady drinks and tried to enjoy the action seeing that I wouldn't be able to barfine any of the girls because of the little lepricon incessantly grabbing my balls. She wasn't ugly at all but definitely not good looking enough to pay GoGo prices for. From here I moved on to Champagne a GoGo which I remember the name of as I had read about it somewhere beforehand. This night there were no knockouts on stage but still pretty good dance shows here as well.
Something that really has improved in comparision to my remembrance of the Pattaya of old is the dancing. I guess that this is an effect of the GoGo-scene now also catering to non-sex tourists? Every GoGo-bar I visited had dedicated dancers and several of them had shows with different gear and bodypaint and being able to behold such splendor for free and drink drinks for half the price of what I would pay back home was simply amazing. Now having been told that it was better after midnight I found myself back at Walking Street. In the second place I visited a girl who looked very young threw herself at me and I had a drink with her and mamasan. Girl didn't speak a word of English and got totally wasted from a couple of drinks. However she was extremely cute and as both she and mamasan were practically begging me to barfine her I asked to see her identification because was really unsure about her age (guess this might have been silly since she works in establishment on Walking Street?). She had indeed just turned 18 so I barfined her and took her back for short time. Very good but sleepy bom bom. I walked her back to the GoGo bar because I actually doubted she would find her way herself.
Finding myself back in the midst of pussy I had little choice but to try to find myself a companion for the way back to my hotel as well. Now I was in for a surprise however. In the two first GoGos I visited I negotiated barfine and price with ladies of my choice only to find the mamasan insisting on me paying the shorttime / longtime-fine directly to her instead of to the girl after proper and finished service. At the first occasion I interpreted this as some friendly scamming on mamasans part and tried to kindly negotiate it but she stood her ground. The second time I said no thank you again of course but started to wonder if it was a pattern or just two incidents.
The third place I went to still had a good looking girl and as chemistry was good I decided to barfine her. She tells me 600 for barfine and 1500 bath for her. Mamasan tells me 1000 barfine. The time is now between 2 and 3 pm. I say 'girl say 600? ' Mamasan says 'girl cayote'. Mamasan hauls her fat ass off and I ask the girl (out of curiousity, no wish for hassle with after hours tete-a-tete) when she gets off. She tells me with sparkling eyes: in 10 minutes. I still have a hard time understanding why the mamasan was so rigid about the high barfine if its only ten minutes left of the evening. Is it because she wants her cayote-gem to be topnotch for tomorrows dancing? Do the mamasans in general prefer it if their best girls are not barfined? All three mamasans seemed happy with me picking up my tab without barfining. Two because they wanted the girls money in advance and one because hassle with barfine. Are the best looking GoGo-girls turning into strippers?
The fourth place I went to a girl in her late twenties graciously sank down next to me and stroke my cock through my pants. Very good chemistry and good looking so decided to make another try with barfine. Was almost surprised when I could take her home but I guess that she was not a coyote-girl. Extremely good sex all night a real deamon of love.
Bullshit, and, that is the problem, that's why they are so xenophobic and definitely backward. But, on the other hand, they have been colonized and are totally owned by the Chinese who will not let the Farangs have the same chances as they took.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1439878]For anyone planning a visit to Pattaya you might want to ignore Harold's comments. He admitted recently that he has never been to Pattaya and never will go. His main reason for this by his own admission is that a Bangkok gogo girl told him that the girls are ugly! You couldn't make it up. Harold lecturing us on Pattaya is like the Queen of England running a gangster rap seminar.[/QUOTE]I have had this dushe on ignore from a very early stage when I first joined ISG. I urge other Pattaya brothers to do the same. He is just a troll who wants to argue about Pattaya. As stated he has never even been!
The attached photo is how his trolling is shown when I read the forum.
Today for the first time. 7-eleven is applying the rules about alchool sales hours. Family Mart doesn't. This huge piece of hipocricy is idiotic enough across all Thailand, but seeing it applyed here, it's just appalling.
Naked Lie: good post especially as your first. What you have seen, despite apparent indications to the contrary, is a seller market. Wouldn't you mind mentioning the place where you took your bounty home, and the related money arrangements. Right now there is simply not enough good freely stuff visible, so that kind of intel became precious. Post the good girl's name and you will become a Forum Saint at posts No. 2.
Me myself have scouted all the know places again tonight - no available quality girls available, tons of lowgrades. Seems like now it's the right time to earn more - and spend as twice as much.
[QUOTE=Chokdee Chin;1440836]Bullshit, and, that is the problem, that's why they are so xenophobic and definitely backward. But, on the other hand, they have been colonized and are totally owned by the Chinese who will not let the Farangs have the same chances as they took.[/QUOTE]In the second sentence, you're very off way. China, if ever, has colonized Thaiiland only for brief periods, one thousand years ago, and pretty much nothing of that is left in Thai culture. Admittedly some of the upper and medium class including the present PM are of remote Chinese ethnic origin but do not speak Chinese and have nothing to do with them anymore. China does not have a large industrial presence in Thailand, they own no factories and no farms, and have no major business here. China has never politically influenced Thailand, that has always been a staunch anti-communist country. The biggest foreign investor in Thailand is Japan with all the familiar brand names, exported worldwide. They build high quality products and are highly respected as country of high values, and rich individuals. Go check to who the high-end clubs and soapies in BKK cater to. The regular Chinese foreign or tourist is seen as a necessary nuisance by most Thais just like as a Westerner is.
[quote]=Marcos; 1441147]Today for the first time. 7-eleven is applying the rules about alchool sales hours. Family Mart doesn't. This huge piece of hipocricy is idiotic enough across all Thailand, but seeing it applyed here, it's just appalling.[/quote]I know it was like this 2+ months ago in Bangkok when a girl and myself had to wait until 2 in the morning to buy Breezer's. Afterwards, we strolled down the sidewalk drinking when 2 police stopped us. Gave them our ID's and the girl told them that we were walking home and I live here. No problem. Police left.
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1441147]Naked Lie: good post especially as your first. What you have seen, despite apparent indications to the contrary, is a seller market. Wouldn't you mind mentioning the place where you took your bounty home, and the related money arrangements. Right now there is simply not enough good freely stuff visible, so that kind of intel became precious. Post the good girl's name and you will become a Forum Saint at posts No. 2...[/QUOTE]Thanks! All I remember since I didn't plan to write a report are the prices. 600bf+2000st+500tip for the first cutie and 600bf+2000st+1000tip / turned into longtime since she didn't leave until noon next day. Last time I was in Pattaya 2000 was very much for GoGo-longtime but now it seems to be standard for short time?
Guess you are right about the seller market. Come to think of it only one gogo-bar I went to offered quality in quantity. This one was on LK Metro and I think there are only maybe 3 gogo bars there so if it is the same lineup and the girls are available for takeout this would probably be a good place to go. The rest had a number of good looking girls but only one or no stunners. Instead either a little to many years on girls who might very well have been knockouts in the past, or young and a little cute but nothing special. The less good looking GoGo-girls I have seen this time around are interchangeable with the best looking beach road / Soi 6 girls I have seen.
Just a small episode to say how much things are messed up in Pattaya.
Ladyboys and gays are not admitted at discos in Thailand, for reasons that are easy to understand. But at Marine, at least some of them are. Now, I could even understand letting in the drag queen looking ones, that can dance on the podiums and do a bit of show without causing any problem. They are so evident and can add some show and liveliness to the place.
But they other night there were two already older 'ladies', of the 'low key' kind that will try to deceive who is naive enough. They invited me to the table and really tried to start a conversation. They are there just because the business could sell one more whiskey bottle. Bad really.
Hey Mate. Hopping back into Pattaya around that time. See you again!
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- Hope to catch Mr. Enternational, LittleBigMan, and any other cool BMs in paradise.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1441371]Just a small episode to say how much things are messed up in Pattaya.
Ladyboys and gays are not admitted at discos in Thailand, for reasons that are easy to understand.[/QUOTE]Well. Explain why then!
Kind of discrimination comment IMO.
There's many place like disco, bar etc just for gays.
Generally they don't mix up with hetero.
Yes Lbs are allowed now in Marine with a 100 baht note for the doorman.
Everyone has something to sell. If you're not interested so just say no and let everyone live their lives.
[QUOTE=Naked Lie;1440806]I entered Walking Street around 10 pm and was amazed at how many tourists there were.[/QUOTE]Haha, I too found the number of tourists on Walking Street staggering. It was a bizarre mix of people, with mongers outnumbered by families, couples and even huge tour groups of middle-aged Japanese women following their flustered tour-guide, flag raised high. In my diary I said "It doesn't feel like a red light district, it feels like Angkor what with nudity and neon". I sat at a bar overlooking Walking Street and wondered what percentage of people walking past were guys like you and I, looking to find a girl. I reckoned maybe a third, perhaps less. To be honest, I didn't really mind but the problem is that it seems to be affecting things inside the bar as the bar-fines are notably higher, sometimes as high as 1000 baht. My friend suggested this was because bars wanted to keep their best girls inside the bar so they could make their money from lady-drinks. It makes sense when there are so many regular tourists around. Like you I went to Soi LK Metro and found it much more easy-going without the large tour-groups. If you're still in Pattaya, you might like to try The Office in Soi LK Metro, preferably before midnight, as there was some really pretty girls when I visited.
By the way thanks for the excellent report.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1441446]"It doesn't feel like a red light district, it feels like Angkor what with nudity and neon".[/QUOTE]Well put and I agree that the business philosophy of GoGo-bars now seems to be as much money as possible in the bar and as little as possible outside. But somewhere the girls wages much suffer or do they get a fat percentage out of the bar? In past times they were not happy with a lady drink, they craved to please longtime shorttime whatever (someone will say that it is my fading looks but I have never much believed in this as a big factor for the girls). Last time I was in Pattaya I always bought myself a drink and one for the lady I was planning to barfine and this was always accepted but now it seems to be extremely much hustling everytime I want to leave with one of the top notch dancers.
Was on GoGo-hunt again today and ran into the same problem again. This time I waited until 2 pm because I just felt that I wanted a GoGo-princess and not enjoying shows, partly because I was fed up with the shows after my last very beautiful GoGo-evening but also because I felt that I was part of the problem buying one lady drink here and one lady drink there in several different places without getting the girl I desired.
Walking straight into SweetHearts a GoGo I immediately spot the cayote-gem of the place making love to the dance pole, getting all the stares from the few customers at hand. I try my best to show my affection and after her shift is finished she comes to sit down with me to hassle me for drinks. I buy her a drink. She asks me to buy one for her friend. I say whatever and then asks how much to go.
She is reluctant, would obviously rather see that I stay and pay for drinks than go back to room. I offer her 3000 bath for "medium" time (7 pm) and a VERY generous tip if I am happy with service (sorry for raising the prices but really just wanted to do her and could sense how little engagement there was on her part for turning tricks) and she discusses this at length with her friend and from the little thai I've picked up over the years I understand them agreeing that I am very drunk and that it will all soon be over and she will get a good nights sleep, she goes with this explanation to mamasan who does not look happy but finally lets her go. Also this girl (Mee) asked me to pay in advance in bar and I must ask after getting this request 10 times, are there mongers who actually agree to this? A hassle to small to mention is that Mee tells me barfine 600 and on bill comes 700. Yawn.
Mee is a very beautiful slender girl, not really the knockout body but she has the face, gaze and moves of a true GoGo-princess. The problem was getting her engaged in the act as all she did on the way to the hotel was try to prolong things as much as possible. When getting to my room on the seventh floor she asks if she can smoke a cigarette although she knows very well that it is a non smoking room "oh, I have to go down?", I say "no smoke in window while I shower". I bang my head against the wall while showering and wonder how I can get a good boom out of this woman. I go back and she gives me the striptease she has promised which is very tired to say the least. The clothes come of slow but not in any teasing kind of manner. She goes to shower.
I lay in the bed wondering if her shower will eat up the rest of our three hours together but she comes out quickly and seems preoccupied, goes back in the shower for another minute and comes out again. Like a new girl. I can't understand what has happened but all of a sudden she is standing above me doing her GoGo routine right in my face, I lay rocking underneath stroking my cock and aiming long loving licks at her tits and ass. Never in my life have I had such a spectacular dance aimed solely at my humble person. I fuck her in every angle possible, she moans and gives herself to me totally, screams when I spank her ass and pulls her hair and does not complain no matter how hard I fuck her or bend her legs. After the pornstar fuck of my life I finish screaming in her face.
I start looking for my pants to pay her and realize that I've managed to do the stupidest thing one could possibly do with a working girl. Leave my wallet in the shower with her. She has graciously enough only helped herself to 2000 bath which was probably what I was going to tip her anyway in the current state of bliss. She is very nervous now but keeps a straight and pleading face and I count up 3000 bath and then I add one 100-bath bill and say "tip". She obviously does not complain but just leaves.
I give this experience 10/10 pussies but also conclude that extraordinary things must happen in order for me to get a great lay from the GoGos on walking street nowadays.
[QUOTE=Naked Lie; 1441543]I start looking for my pants to pay her and realize that I've managed to do the stupidest thing one could possibly do with a working girl. Leave my wallet in the shower with her. She has graciously enough only helped herself to 2000 bath which was probably what I was going to tip her anyway in the current state of bliss. She is very nervous now but keeps a straight and pleading face and I count up 3000 bath and then I add one 100-bath bill and say "tip". She obviously does not complain but just leaves.
I give this experience 10/10 pussies but also conclude that extraordinary things must happen in order for me to get a great lay from the GoGos on walking street nowadays.[/QUOTE]And people wonder why things are so fucked up with the girls in Pattaya these days!
Mongers are the only ones to blame!
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1441646]And people wonder why things are so fucked up with the girls in Pattaya these days!
Mongers are the only ones to blame![/QUOTE]I can understand your reaction but let me assure you that this is the one and only time during my trip that I will pay 5000 for any girl and this only because very good looking and outstanding experience.
Forgetting my pants was extremely sloppy though but the fault was all mine and if you would have expected me to lecture her or something I think you overrate a mongers possibilities to affect the morals of a working girl. There is no way she is not going to try and take money if she gets such an obvious chance.
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1441646]And people wonder why things are so fucked up with the girls in Pattaya these days!
Mongers are the only ones to blame![/QUOTE]Exactly what I was going to to say. No matter how loaded one is, readily agreeing to buy a lady drink for her friend, ignoring the wrong bar fine, planning to tip 2000 Baht, ending up paying 5000+ for short time. These are simply not what a "responsible" (if I may even use that word) monger would do. With another 10 mongers like this, the girls would of course start to expect more for less services, and scoff at you if you refuse to let her take advantage of you.
[QUOTE=Marteau; 1441393]Well. Explain why then![/QUOTE]I've spoken my opinion, and you have spoken yours. No need to explain if you can't get what is wrong with that.
Please le me understand because I'm not sure.
[QUOTE=Naked Lie;1441543]Also this girl (Mee) asked me to pay in advance in bar and I must ask after getting this request 10 times, are there mongers who actually agree to this? A hassle to small to mention is that Mee tells me barfine 600 and on bill comes 700. Yawn.[/quote]So you paid 3000 at the club, correct?
[quote]I start looking for my pants to pay her and realize that I've managed to do the stupidest thing one could possibly do with a working girl. Leave my wallet in the shower with her. She has graciously enough only helped herself to 2000 bath which was probably what I was going to tip her anyway in the current state of bliss. She is very nervous now but keeps a straight and pleading face and I count up 3000 bath and then I add one 100-bath bill and say "tip". She obviously does not complain but just leaves.[/QUOTE]In normal words, she took money from your wallet? And then you added more?
Sorry, but I have a very bad feeling about what you've made of all that.
I don't know if you know, but stealing is not the norm and is not acceptable in Thailand, not even between a drunk customer and a prostitute.
Are you sure you haven't spent or just lost these before?
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1441646]And people wonder why things are so fucked up with the girls in Pattaya these days! Mongers are the only ones to blame![/QUOTE]On my God! Unbelievable report, but unfortunately I believe it. I don't want to flame, actually I want to thank Naked Lie for posting his report so honestly and fearlessly. The report illustrates a certain mind set many western men, who have been beaten down all their lives by the fem-Nazi culture in their home country, bring with them to LOS. I guess you can take the beaten up, broken down western male ego out of his native country, put him into the heart of the wild East, but you can't take the broken down western male ego out of the man. He will always act like he does not have a dick and is beholden to women for giving him a little of their honey.
Naked, I am glad you think you had a good time, but you did just about everything wrong. You need to reevaluate your mind set and get your shit together. It is not too late to get it right and reclaim your manhood. Yes, you succeeded in getting your dick wet in Pattaya. So what? I was horror struck by your attitude and the way you let the girl walk all over you and take complete charge from the very beginning. Start with thinking the girl is doing you a favor to let you bar fine her. Its Bizarro World where everything is the opposite of the way it really is. The worst part is when you discovered that the girl stole 2000bt from you and you didn't say or do anything about it. In fact you continued your Bizarro behavior and shelled out another 3000bt and convinced yourself she was a great girl who showed you a great time. Are you insane? Do you really think you had a great session? Start with accepting the truth, then you can work to fix the problem. LOS is one of the greatest mongering destinations in the world. What you did was the equivalent of pouring a bottle of kechup on your dry-aged Waguu steak or mixing sprite with a glass of Grand Cru Chateau Latour.
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1441762]I don't know if you know, but stealing is not the norm and is not acceptable in Thailand, not even between a drunk customer and a prostitute.
Are you sure you haven't spent or just lost these before?[/QUOTE]It is not the norm, it is not "acceptable" (by whom?) , but that shit happens.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1441795]It is not the norm, it is not "acceptable" (by whom?) , but that shit happens.[/QUOTE]It is not acceptable as in, if it happens to you and you know who has done it, you must raise hell until the money is returned.
Stealing from customers does not give a girl a good reputation with her friends. Fucking good, talking sweet and extracting money from multiple sponsors surely does. And I agree with that.
Thailand is not Africa or Latin America, here who steals gets in trouble, Falang or Thai. I've seen that happen many times.
A man with balls should now go barfine Bee, fuck the shit out of her brains, leave some cash around, as soon she makes the wrong move she's bust, major loss of face and a lesson she will remember.
Although my last report met with some upset feelings I would like to describe also my outside gogo-action in Pattaya. First to clarify my stance and some facts on my last report: I did not pay 3000 in the bar. I paid a barfine (700). Altogether I spent 5000 excluding barfine but including the 2000 she treated herself too.
I understand that my budget might be offensive to expats who make it an artform to get any girl without paying a higher price but I am here for limited time. This budget of 5000 was what I in advance had set my mind to pay for a really good session with the hottest girl in one of the GoGo-bars. This I based on already taking home 5-6 girls of fine appearance from the GoGo-bars this time around in Pattaya, paying each no more than 3000 including tip for longtime. However I had had problems getting the mamasan to let go of her best looking entertainers. Feeling more comfortable with giving the girl a higher price than paying an overpriced barfine I greased the girl to get her to convince mamasan to let her go.
3000 and a very good tip for VERY good service was my plan to ensure a good session. If I'm going to spend that much on shorttime because of the quality of the girl I feel that I can just as well try and ensure great service as well. Has worked good for me in the past. Unfortunately it became apparent to me during our initial socializing that she was not planning to offer any good service at all. Maybe because she thought I was insincere about paying her a good tip or paying her at all, she suggested something like this at some point.
Now as for me having a broken down western male ego. This might very well be true from your perspective Natty Bumpo. For me the only important thing is that the sex is up to my expectations or better for the price I feel is according to market after scouting. If the girl steals part of that money from me at some point and feels in control and can offer a fantastic fuck because of it, or if she gives me a fantastic fuck without hassle and I tip her is of less importance to me. Especially in this case where she obviously would have given me a horrible fuck for 3000 resulting in no tip on my part. This would have hurt my male ego. That is all up to the gentleman I guess what you discern as important for the dick-ego. Someone will surely answer that he always gets great performance out of the girls and that this is therefore not a consideration to him. Hats off.
Soi 6:
I awoke quite sore from my wondrous action the night before and it took a couple of singhas for me to feel quite right again. I visited soi 6 when the worst scorching heat was leaving Pattaya. Found a really cute girl (in comparision with the other ladies there very very very cute) on the first bar on right hand side after midway passage to soi 6/1. I did not understand her name, mamasan told me it was her first day but she spoke some english and had very good skills. Def. Young though, not more than 20 I would say very possibly younger. She had a good body especially ass which she stuck in air while sucking me so I could enjoy in the mirror on the wall. She took very intense and long session with no complaints and let me finish in face and breast. I tipped her 200 (sorry about that). Altogether 1200.
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Checking out the bliss lounge the current BJ-bar in Pattaya (are there any more of them?) on third road was also a very good experience for me. I walked up to the door and nodded to a girl I thought looked like she could bob good head. She hisses at me and points to another angry little girl just across from her. Realizing that I have interrupted some kind of an argument I thread very gently behind the very petite and cute girl. She gave me the angriest blowjob I ever got and it was great. A bit painful at times but great. She pushed my hands away everytime I tried to touch her but with the energy she put into it I didn't need other stimuli.
The Devil's Den had a really good lineup and the experience in these establishments are always memorable but this was maybe a little less so than usual. Picked the two best looking girls, one from each side the line but yet anal whines about having to do it. However very good session rest of it probably more than 90 minutes.
I hope my reports can be of some help as I have had much use of the information here myself, maybe someone can learn from my mistakes!
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A couple of months ago, I saw some members had posted recommendations for a specific taxi service for BKK. Pattaya trips. At the time, I was just going to take the bus, but I've since changed my mind and now I can't find the taxi's website. I'm still going to keep searching the forum, but I will be arriving at BKK on July 8 and was hoping someone could post or PM me that website if you have it handy. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1441762]Sorry, but I have a very bad feeling about what you've made of all that.
1) I don't know if you know, but stealing is not the norm and is not acceptable in Thailand, not even between a drunk customer and a prostitute.
2) Are you sure you haven't spent or just lost these before?[/QUOTE]1) I'm not saying that stealing is revered in Thailand generally but of course the hardened working girls will take their chances if they think that they can get away with it. Maybe you like me have such rigid routines for everything that you do not quite remember why anymore? Had I raised hell she would surely have given them back but I saw little meaning in this seeing that I was planning on giving them to her anyway.
2) yes. I have great experience in being drunk and always know what's in my wallet.
Thanks for the support but I am not interested in crucifying the girl I thought it would simply be interpreted as a pleasant anecdote. Had I known that the story would infuriate members here I would not have told it.
[QUOTE=Nefarious;1441853]A couple of months ago, I saw some members had posted recommendations for a specific taxi service for BKK. Pattaya trips. At the time, I was just going to take the bus, but I've since changed my mind and now I can't find the taxi's website. I'm still going to keep searching the forum, but I will be arriving at BKK on July 8 and was hoping someone could post or PM me that website if you have it handy. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Very reliable service from [url]http://www.pattayataxi.info/[/url]
[QUOTE=Naked Lie; 1441652]I can understand your reaction but let me assure you that this is the one and only time during my trip that I will pay 5000 for any girl and this only because very good looking and outstanding experience.
Forgetting my pants was extremely sloppy though but the fault was all mine and if you would have expected me to lecture her or something I think you overrate a mongers possibilities to affect the morals of a working girl. There is no way she is not going to try and take money if she gets such an obvious chance[/QUOTE]Bullshit. With most of the women I bring to my room I could leave a stack of 1000 baht bills on the dresser and they would not go near it. If one blew off the dresser onto the floor because of the fan they would just point at it instead of picking it up. Because they would know if they dared touch something in my room that was not theirs then they would have hell to pay, not extra money in the form of a tip.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1441933]Bullshit. With most of the women I bring to my room I could leave a stack of 1000 baht bills on the dresser and they would not go near it. If one blew off the dresser onto the floor because of the fan they would just point at it instead of picking it up. Because they would know if they dared touch something in my room that was not theirs then they would have hell to pay, not extra money in the form of a tip.[/QUOTE]I second this. I have had several girls in my room where I leave my pants on the floor with my wallet still in them. Never ever has anything been taken from them ie stolen. Especially a gogo girl you know where she works and she knows you know!
Do not know which hotel you were at but at my hotel the guards would have pretty much strip searched her if I said she stole from me.
I am not really sure if I believe your story, maybe you just lost the cash, but I feel like confronting the girl with it when I arrive next month.
I have been using Mr. T's service for years now. Just used it from BKK (Asoke Area to View Talay 6, Pattaya for 1, 000bt)."Mr. T Taxi" <mr_ttaxi@hotmail.com
[QUOTE=Nefarious;1441853]A couple of months ago, I saw some members had posted recommendations for a specific taxi service for BKK. Pattaya trips. At the time, I was just going to take the bus, but I've since changed my mind and now I can't find the taxi's website. I'm still going to keep searching the forum, but I will be arriving at BKK on July 8 and was hoping someone could post or PM me that website if you have it handy. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Naked Lie; 1441850] "...On my way back I snuck into the ladyboy alley and picked up a really big "lass" from one of the bars closer to beach road..."
I hope my reports can be of some help as I have had much use of the information here myself, maybe someone can learn from my mistakes![/QUOTE]You seem prone to making more than the usual amount of newbie mistakes, Mr. Naked, after only 6 reports, but I do enjoy reading reading them. You should know, however, that Jackson will not enjoy reading this report about your adventures with ladyboys on Soi 6/1 as that subject matter is strictly against his rather rigid forum rules, (have you read them?) and we don't want you to get banned.
Be a little more careful in the future,
Daddy
I would guess that I have been with over 125 Thai girls in my life and in my relatively modest experience; no Thai girl has ever stolen money or a personal item from me. I think I am pretty selective about whom I invite to share my bed and I try to keep temptation at a minimum and lock my valuables up, before I go hunting. I also do not get shit faced drunk and make major errors in judgment. But I usually have some baht in my pocket (1000 to 5000) , a Casio diving watch lying around, and sometimes a digital camera on the dresser. A couple of times I forgot to lock the safe. Nothing has ever gone missing, ever. I don't think it is luck or my charisma that is responsible for these stats. Thai girls are just pretty honest and respectable that way. It is one of the many character traits that I like so much about them. I really hope this never changes.
[QUOTE=Naked Lie; 1441882]1) I'm not saying that stealing is revered in Thailand generally but of course the hardened working girls will take their chances if they think that they can get away with it. Maybe you like me have such rigid routines for everything that you do not quite remember why anymore? Had I raised hell she would surely have given them back but I saw little meaning in this seeing that I was planning on giving them to her anyway.
2) yes. I have great experience in being drunk and always know what's in my wallet.
Thanks for the support but I am not interested in crucifying the girl I thought it would simply be interpreted as a pleasant anecdote. Had I known that the story would infuriate members here I would not have told it.[/QUOTE]Sorry, you can come back with all the calm explainations and everything can seem in check to you, but it is not. The statement "I was going to give anyway", is a true perl of idiocy. Your is not a pleasant anedocte, but an unsettlling looser story about a thief that even got rewarded! As others have said, that is NOT OK to happen in Thailand. In years and countless girls, I've only got a cellphone (not a smartphone) stolen once, but it was an untraceable street girl, so she could to get away with that.
Anyway, a tip of 2K on top of 3K is also absurd. You deserve all the flame that can be, and please do us a favor, do't keep trying defending the undefendable. As others have pointed out, it's mostly the punters to blame for fuckups. I think you should re-evaluate your values in lifes, if petty theft is aceptable to you why don't you give it yourself a go, you can start right here in Thailand. Remember to tell use how if goes.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1439878]His main reason for this by his own admission is that a Bangkok gogo girl told him that the girls are ugly! You couldn't make it up. Harold lecturing us on Pattaya is like the Queen of England running a gangster rap seminar.[/QUOTE]Hahaaaa hahaha. Good one Lance!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1441933]Bullshit. With most of the women I bring to my room I could leave a stack of 1000 baht bills on the dresser and they would not go near it. If one blew off the dresser onto the floor because of the fan they would just point at it instead of picking it up.[/QUOTE]Most girls would actually point out that it would be better for you to keep it safer! They can also be very protective, like patiently walking drunk men to their room, quell fights, and putting up with all "our" stupidity. Surely I've seen hardened and potentially dangerous Thai women, but the the ratio must be like 1 to 30. Even when having the occasional argument, things rarely turn out ugly. Try that in Dominican Republic for example. Thailand sure is not an ideal place, but there is a way in which certain things work and there are certain paramount values, that it took me a while to learn and understand, I certainly hope these won't change for worst
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1441764]<snip> Start with accepting the truth, then you can work to fix the problem. LOS is one of the greatest mongering destinations in the world. What you did was the equivalent of pouring a bottle of kechup on your dry-aged Waguu steak or mixing sprite with a glass of Grand Cru Chateau Latour.[/QUOTE]This one good too. Even if I've never tasted the items mentioned. They just "sound" too expensive hahah.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1442064]Most girls would actually point out that it would be better for you to keep it safer! They can also be very protective, like pateintly walking drunk men to their room and putting up with all "our" stupidity. Yes I've seen hardened and potentially dangerous women, but the the ratio must be like 1 to 30. Even when having the occasional argument, things rarely ly turn out ugly. Try that in Dominican Republic for example. There is a way which certain things work and certain values in Thailand, that it took me a while to learn and understand, and I certainly hope won't change for worst[/QUOTE]A big plus one. In the grand world of working girls, TGs are a pretty gentle and caring lot. As you said, try the DR.
[QUOTE=Naked Lie; 1441543]Well put and I agree that the business philosophy of GoGo-bars now seems to be as much money as possible in the bar and as little as possible outside. But somewhere the girls wages much suffer or do they get a fat percentage out of the bar? In past times they were not happy with a lady drink, they craved to please longtime shorttime whatever (someone will say that it is my fading looks but I have never much believed in this as a big factor for the girls). Last time I was in Pattaya I always bought myself a drink and one for the lady I was planning to barfine and this was always accepted but now it seems to be extremely much hustling everytime I want to leave with one of the top notch dancers.[/QUOTE]I do not need to repeat what has been said already about this "incident". I just can confirm that I had several hundred Thai WG's in my room and bed, and never ever any of them had stolen anything from me. It's all the opposite. I always have something on my desk (mobile phone, camera, computer) and regularly leave my pants with the wallet in the room when I take a shower. Especially gogo bar girls know that if they steal anything, you will report to the mamasan and bar owner. Therefore, I always feel very safe and was never disappointed.
If ever a girl has such strange behavior like you describe in your report (I. E. Prolonging the way back to your room, very tired action or all kinds of "excuses") , then I throw her out of the room and tell her that I am not going to pay for such inferior performance. I must say that this happened only very, very few times in Thailand, but it happened. I have a lot of respect for the WG's and always treat them gentleman-like. They do a tough job, and it's not easy to smile all the time. But if the behavior is really uninterested and unacceptable, then I tell her that she better goes home to have a good sleep, rather than to bother me with her bad mood. Particularly in Pattaya, there are plenty of other girls available almost at any time of the day.
I am also rather familiar with Sweethearts in Walking Street and had some girls from there. Never ever I was asked to pay in advance. This happened to me in very few other bars in Pattaya, but I always bluntly refused, and it was never a discussion. I never paid in advance in Thailand.
I also remember from some visits in March this year that the atmosphere in Sweethearts has always been very relaxed and no pushing. Everything goes easy. I am wondering whether this has changed within such short time.
Tomorrow, I will be in Pattaya, and I will have a look at this bar. I would like to see this girl and also mamasan. If any findings of interest, I will report.
Wonderer
I can only say that I do not have time to set an example when I only have a couple of weeks vacation every year, I wanted to make it happen and it did from my perspective this is enough. If I had thrown her out I would have to go back and spend more money in the gogobars, in the end it is a question of what kind of hassle you are willing to accept.
All in all good time in Pattaya but took some time to get used to the new prices and culture. I want to ask people with more frequent experience do you at all visit the GoGo bars? And if yes, why? Seems to me that with your strict philosophy of things you must end up not being able to barfine the coyotegirls on many evenings although you've payed for your drinks and maybe hers? And if you go for second rate girls why not take the better looking ones on soi 6?
I apologize for my newbie mistakes, also to the board regulators I did not know that I could not post on ladyboy experiences.
Maybe I stop by Thailand again on my way back from Singapore thanks for advices and cheers!
Concerning the moral of thai working girls:
I think that some of you underestimate their ability to judge the situation. Although a working girl might not see it wise to steal from you for whatever reason; a knowledge of your experience or chances that you might deem it worthwhile to complain to management or just what a gentlemanlike fellow you are she might very well judge differently with someone else. Probably there are also girls who would simply never do such a horrid thing and all respect! Much harder to walk the narrow in an environment such as theirs.
I am born and raised in one of the worlds few matriarchys, Sweden, where you are raised in womens equality (supremacy) by society from early age.
Therefore it can be quite a step to take for many sexually frustrated males to turn to hookers, actually it's illegal to monger in Sweden though it's legal to sell for the few women who do so.
I'm still a quite young man, but I totally had enough of bringing up courage to approach girls in discoteques at home where you are "greated" by their arrogant and superior attitudes towards you, where they all just let "Prince-Charming" screw them while giggling behind the backs of a large number of "awerage-Joe's", women are very spoiled in my country, socially and economically as sexually where they can have their choice of hungry men, entertaining themselves with the top notch guys in this sexually liberated country for womens benefits.
Therefore I'm heading off to Thailand on my vacation, I was supposed to go now in July, but due to work I have to wait til September / October.
It will be my first time visiting Pattaya, though I will also spend some time in Bangkok, but since I am relatively young I don't want to stick out among crowds of relatively old mongers, therefore I wonder, is it only / mostly middleage mongers frequenting Pattaya?
If so, will I feel less uncommon in Bangkok or is it same-same but different?
Very informative and apprechiable site, thumbs up. You can all look forward to reports from a Pattaya-first-timer in late September / October.
Hey guys,
Here's my report my second Thailand trip.
I went to the bus station in Bangkok heading to Pattaya. After a 2 hour trip (133 BT) I finally arrived in Pattaya (whitehouse condotel SOI 13) and decided to visit a bit this city that I've been hearing a lot from you guys. My first impression was that it was messier than Bangkok but. That's Thailand I guess. I've decided to have a look at Honey 2 to try this famous soapy massage. Well. That was bad, very bad.
Came in, about 50 girls in the fishbowl. 1800 for the girls on the right (about 40 girls) and 2200 for the others on the left (about 10). I ordered a dit coke (80 bath) paid and I'm still waiting for my 20 bath change (I didn't really cared but still, just for the principe I like when the waiter brings your change back for you to decided if you tip him or not)
After a few smile, sign and so forth, I decided to go with M75 a young smiling blond chick.
Went into the room and that girl was speaking about 4 words of English. Wasn't easy to break the ice at all, she was smiling but couldn't understand a word I was saying while filling up the bathtub. After a few minutes a lady came in with my diet coke (that I had started drinking downstairs and a drink for the lady) that I didn't ordered at all. The bill was 220, I was surprised but paid (thought that a drink would help break the ice) the waitress asked for a tip as she saw a 20 in my pocket, I said I needed it for the taxi back to my hotel, she insisted but understood that I wouldn't give her any tips (for carrying a drink that I didn't even ordered + the tip I already paid downstairs, I wasn't going to tip the whole staff of the building!)
Anyway, The room was nice and clean, quite big, a tv, a sofa, a queen bed, an air maitresse and so forth. The TV in the room was on, some RnB clips was on it. Waited for the tub to fill up in silence as she wasn't able to speak at all and I couldn't speak thai either. About her, she was wearing a nice red dress. She was 19 (way too young, you'll understand why after) and very pretty with tattoos on her body.
She showered me in the tub and it was the beginning of my "bad" experience. I felt like a baby taking a bath while my mum would clean my back and under my arms. She was outside the tub washing me in silence. Weird. Then she showered, asked me to go on the mattress and she started doing her thing. It wasn't that bad but it was way too "normal" way too robotic. Right, left, right left, feet, back and so forth. It wasn't very sexy.
After about 8 minutes of this robotic massage she then asked me to shower again and go onto the bed, which I did, still in this weird silence with only RnB music.
She came onto the bed beside me and started touching my cock. Now, I guess my mistake has been choosing a young girl which are (for most of them) inexperienced, her hand was soft and she was watching tv while doing a very bad and soft handjob. After a few minutes of that nightmare, she put a condom on and started blowing me. First of all, I don't feel a thing with a condom on and as she was inexperienced well I couldn't feel a thing at all. Seriously. She stopped after 40 secondes and continued masturbating me while watching tv. I couldn't get hard AT ALL. I was getting softer and softer and her method wasn't helping. Tried to concentrate but the ads on the TV for a chocolate milk and her absence of cuddling, kissing or sensuality wasn't helping at all.
I decided to get hard by doing it myself (she was still watching tv) , after a couple of minutes it was ok, another condom was on and I asked her to sit on top of me (cowgirl) again, it was bad. Very inexperienced, not sensual, not sexy, robotic and too professional. Finished quickly as I wanted to stop that "nightmare" asap. I tiped her 100 bath (don't ask me why, she was nice, shy and young). In total I paid 2620 for that. I could have get better for that amount but at least I tried.
To be honest, she's not 100% responsible. She was really nice, pretty and kind. We just couldn't communicate so it was tough to break the ice and her attitude was way to professional and robotic for me to be hard. I was thinking about Wan wan from Mongo massage from Bangkok (see my yesterday post) and she rocked my world. I wanted to try a soappy massage, I tried it. It wasn't very good (that's of coursemy POV) I guess I should have chosen an older girl that would have been more experienced.
Tomorrow I'll try Devil's Den. Hopefully it should be better, if any of you guys have advices on what girls (NOT SHY) to take that would be great. Also is the end of the afternoon a good time to get there?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Valoulou;1442214]Here's my report my second Thailand trip. I've decided to have a look at Honey 2 to try this famous soapy massage. Well. That was bad, very bad.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry to hear about your negative experience at Honey 2. I had a great session there with a young girl but massage parlours can always be a lucky dip. Like you I've also had a pretty young 'starfish' who can hardly speak a word of English. That's the price we pay for targeting the young ones.
I tend to always pick girls I find attractive from the fishbowl but in soapies I think it might pay in future to go for the curvier, more experienced girls. Not only will they provide a better service but they will speak better English too. I love soapy massages and would highly recommend them to anyone visiting Thailand for the first time. It sounds like your choice of girl was very new and didn't know so many of the 'tricks of the trade' but I wouldn't let it put you off though. Maybe you can try Sabai Dee or Honey 1 on another day? A good soapy massage is heaven. Another you might like to consider is Dream Teen. It's more of a regular massage parlour where 'extras' are negotiated afterwards (I say 'negotiated', it's a set price). The girls there are renowned for giving great service.
Regarding Devil's Den, you will have a great time there. Ladies can be pre-booked on their website, or alternatively you could pop in, have a word with the manager and tell him which girls you liked on the website. I'm not really sure what the best time to visit is. I went at about 5pm I think but I noticed that when I walked out two hours later there seemed to be more girls outside.
Enjoy the rest of your trip and keep posting your excellent reports.
Great report, Valoulou! You've captured the essence of what Soapies are all about.
[QUOTE=BlygdTuktaren;1442208]It will be my first time visiting Pattaya, though I will also spend some time in Bangkok, but since I am relatively young I don't want to stick out among crowds of relatively old mongers, therefore I wonder, is it only / mostly middleage mongers frequenting Pattaya? If so, will I feel less uncommon in Bangkok or is it same-same but different?[/QUOTE]Pattaya has a weird mix of people visiting. You'll see lots of older mongers, groups of younger guys, large tour groups of old Japanese women (!) , couple holding hands and even families. Being a young guy you will be in the minority but you won't feel uncomfortably out of place. I'm 36 and I saw plenty of guys younger than me. In fact your age will prove to be an advantage and you'll get lots of screams whenever you walk past gogo bars and beer-bar complexes! One piece of advice though, don't let the gogo girls know that it's your first trip (lots will ask "you been here before?") otherwise they may try to overcharge you. Do your research on this forum and you'll have a great time. Enjoy your trip and I look forward to reading your reports.
[QUOTE=Naked Lie;1441850]I tipped her 200 (sorry about that).[/QUOTE]Don't apologise. If a girl gives you a good service then by all means rewards her.
People gave you a hard time because you tipped a girl who you think stole from you. I can't quite fathom out why you did that, even if the sex was as mind-blowing as you said. I must say, like others on this forum, I have never had any negative experiences from girls taking things from my room. Is it possible that you might have been mistaken about how much money was in your wallet? After all you'd just had an expensive night in the gogo bars, it's easy to lose track of how much money you've spent. Also your gogo girl will have handed her ID card over to security at your hotel, she'd be crazy to steal from you. Especially since you made it crystal clear that she'd be getting a tip, so she knew you'd have to look in your wallet again.
By the way, keep the reports coming. You have obviously made a few mistakes but its admirable that you choose to share them on this forum. Sharing info is what this forum is all about, whether good experiences or bad. Enjoy the rest of your trip.
[QUOTE=Valoulou; 1442214]Tomorrow I'll try Devil's Den. Hopefully it should be better, if any of you guys have advices on what girls (NOT SHY) to take that would be great. Also is the end of the afternoon a good time to get there?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Oops, sorry. I read "Eden" for "Devil's Den". Admin can delete my post as it is not at all relevant. Sorry again.
If I remember well, most -if not all- the sessions I had at Eden were in the afternoon, some early afternoon, some late / latish afternoon. There was always a good choice of ladies, but do not expect them to be 9 or 10 for looks. Most of them are also at least late 20s or even in their 30s. But that has the benefit that they are all experienced and have seen and done anything you can imagine. The only thing you will not find at Eden is a shy girl!
You do not go there for a GFE: you will get sex as much as you can take in all combinations and with two ladies who know how to perform. Either you are the director of your own porn movie with you in the main role, or you follow their lead and let them take care of you. I'm in my fifties and they have always managed to make me come twice in 90 minutes.
[QUOTE=BlygdTuktaren; 1442208]I am born and raised in one of the worlds few matriarchys, Sweden, where you are raised in womens equality (supremacy) by society from early age.
Therefore it can be quite a step to take for many sexually frustrated males to turn to hookers, actually it's illegal to monger in Sweden though it's legal to sell for the few women who do so.[/QUOTE]I think you may be interested to read up about Briffault's Law. In socialist welfare states it is very much in force.
[QUOTE=BlygdTuktaren;1442208]It will be my first time visiting Pattaya, though I will also spend some time in Bangkok, but since I am relatively young I don't want to stick out among crowds of relatively old mongers, therefore I wonder, is it only / mostly middleage mongers frequenting Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Nowadays there are lots of non-mongers in Pattaya, especially Russian charter tourists (families w / kids). It's really a mixed bunch.
Bring ATM card and / or cash and you will be just fine. And if something sticks out it can easily be taken care of.
[QUOTE=BlygdTuktaren; 1442208]I am born and raised in one of the worlds few matriarchys, Sweden, where you are raised in womens equality (supremacy) by society from early age.
It will be my first time visiting Pattaya, though I will also spend some time in Bangkok, but since I am relatively young I don't want to stick out among crowds of relatively old mongers, therefore I wonder, is it only / mostly middleage mongers frequenting Pattaya?
If so, will I feel less uncommon in Bangkok or is it same-same but different?[/QUOTE]Hello neighboor. Norway calling. First I will say that my initial thought is that Bangkok will runs you most agejustice simply bcs it is a bigger place and more varite into the scene. I am mongering the most in BKK with a few very short jumps down to Pattis. You have younger crowd atleast in the clubs in both places. I will admit I don't know GoGo, MP and beerbars so well but my impression from my few visits here are that they cater a older clientel (on avarage) than nightclubs. In BKK you have a large spectre of nightclubs from all freelanceplaces to very HiSo places you probably know from Stureplan in Stockholm (here as in my country, your country) you can run into gold diggers or girls looking for sugardaddies but hard to find the normal freelancegirl.
You have many freelanceplaces in BKK though cater to mostly a younger crowd of mongerers like Levels, Q-Bar, BASH, Bossy, Spicey, Insanity, Climax, Mixx, CM2, Shock39 and so on. Pattaya have a few disco where younger men like to hang out as well. Marine Disco and Insomnia beeing obvious examples located in Walking Street (WS). Only my observation.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=Nefarious;1441853]A couple of months ago, I saw some members had posted recommendations for a specific taxi service for BKK. Pattaya trips. At the time, I was just going to take the bus, but I've since changed my mind and now I can't find the taxi's website. I'm still going to keep searching the forum, but I will be arriving at BKK on July 8 and was hoping someone could post or PM me that website if you have it handy. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have done the transfer most every way. This is the service I currently use between Bangkok-Pattaya or Pattaya-Suvarnabhumi Airport. Cost is between the public bus and a private taxi, and the value and convenience mix works for me:
[url]http://www.belltravelservice.com/pages/PageHome.aspx[/url]
SunLover
[QUOTE=Valoulou; 1442214]Tomorrow I'll try Devil's Den. Hopefully it should be better, if any of you guys have advices on what girls (NOT SHY) to take that would be great. Also is the end of the afternoon a good time to get there?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Gik is my fav at DD, but she was on leave in May so I did a double with Alyssa and Sasha. One tall and one shorter. Both with braces. I had them wear school girl outfits, and had a very memorable experience.
There is no right time to go to DD. They open at 1pm, and if there is a specific girl (s) you want you can call or drop in and schedule an appointment. My other advice would be to bring your [B][I][U]A Game[/U] [/I][/B]as those ladies can wear you out!
SunLover
breezed into pattaya last night, and was upgraded from my suite to a corner suite with more space. awesome. at least my first night was starting well, but unknown to me it would go downhill a few hours later. after a shower and change of clothes i decide to head over to my old haunt at the windmill, nasty and wild as you can find near walking street, mostly to check in on a girl from my last visit, and perhaps get some welcome-to-sin-city late evening action. nothing fancy, but i was hoping to get her to stay overnight, rather than her usual running back to the bar at 2 am nonsense. yes, i was tired.
i stopped over at beefeater steak house on soi diana and second, for a celebratory evening meal. i popped a little blue vitamin before the steak arrived, because you just know the fat in the meal will inhibit the effect later on. after an enjoyable meal i decided to walk to the windmill along second, to get my joints loosened up from the long airflight. but as soon as i walked in the bar i got a sense things were not going to go my way. not only was my previous girl absent, but her friends reported she was now unusually pum pui (fat). oh, well, i joked back to them, i'll turn her around and go doggy on her long time; pum pui is not a problem. no one got my joke, as expected, but soon new contenders for the job of welcoming me back to pattaya were magically sitting next to me, taking turns in stroking my member. a tall 19-year old with braces and a flat belly ('me no baby') was massaging my groin from the right side, doing a fair job, and getting the expected v-inspired instant response. all thoughts of now ditching the windmill and heading somewhere else began to fade, as the blood drained from my brain, heading south. then, like a jungle cat smelling a kill nearby, the mamasan appeared on my left. she knew me from my many last visits barfining several of her girls, and i knew her as a liar.
'you want her go with you? ' she motioned towards the 19-year old, who i had now relocated to my lap, and was slowly grinding her tight little ass into my groin. i had slipped a 100 note into her skirt band to increase her enthusiasm, but i was still intending to walk out soon. 'overnight, only', i said, knowing the response would be a no. it was too early to let the girls out, especially on low season in pattaya. there was a pause, and the jungle cat inched closer to me, eyes narrowing, teeth extending. 'you send her back 3am, take her short time. '. hmm. that's four hours, not a bad sweetener to the deal. the big gunga head conferred rapidly with the small gunga head (the one on my shoulders) , and someone using my vocal cords apparently said, 'ok'.
as expected, my bill included a mamasan drink that i had not ordered for her, along with a 700 thb bar fine, and a few other drinks i had actually ordered for three other barely-clothed contestants. ok, what the hell, it could be worse, and i was in no mood to argue the small stuff. i watched the 19-year old head back to get into her street clothes. time to leave, now, before i change my mind.
as we arrived at my hotel i asked her, as always, in the taxi, 'have i'd? '. she nodded.
the hotel desk clerk gave her the usual thai interrogation all girls get, as we all negotiate the border checkpoint between the road and my bed. 'name? ', he asked her, in thai. he paused, comparing her stuttered response with the i'd. 'what is your birthday? ' he asked, again in thai, staring intently at her i'd. five minutes went by, until he turned to me. after several repeated tries she still couldn't give him the same date of birth that was printed on her i'd. she muttered something about having left her "other" card at home. right. this was clearly a fake card, or she had an earlycase of alzheimer's disease. ' i looked at the girl, sighed, and also now started to consider that she may have also be borderline ****, which is not ok with me. i don't take girls younger than 19, on principle. she did seem to match her stated age when i was at the windmill, although it's true i was a little distracted at the time. but the hotel border patrol was clearly unconvinced, and would not let her into the hotel. later on, the clerk would confide to me that guests were recently getting stuff stolen from their rooms, usually by girls with dodgy cards, so the usual i'd check had been upgraded from gold to platinum level. they had even gone as far as stationing a private security guy outside the hotel door.
saddened, frustrated, but also a little relieved at the same time, i sent her back to the windmill by taxi bike, and headed out back along second. now the little head was kicking in, over-riding the head of steam built up at the anticipation of a four-hour romp with this girl. it's late, you're tired from the trip, and you still have two weeks here in pattaya, said the rational voices in my head. 'go to bed; tomorrow you can make it up'. the other voices were a little more thoughtful. 'note to self', they said. 'next time you bar fine a girl have her tell you her birthdate right off her i'd, and don't wait until you get to the hotel. '
[QUOTE=Gunga Din;1442442]The big Gunga head conferred rapidly with the small Gunga head (the one on my shoulders) , and someone using my vocal cords apparently said, 'OK'.[/QUOTE]I'm new to ISG but I've read plenty of FRs. I generally only search for info in FRs, but this got to be the most enjoyable FR I've ever come across!
Sorry to hear about your late-night strikeout but with your mentality and deep pocket you're sure to have a wonderful time during your stay.
Why didn't you go get your 700 baht bar fine back?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1442552]Why didn't you go get your 700 baht bar fine back?[/QUOTE]That was a must to do!
Useless mamasan if she doesn't take care her girls have proper I'd (and are above legal age). Minimum to do was to give a warning about the lack of documents. Mamasan didn't know? She should bite the dust and stop milking money then.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1442289]<snip> By the way, keep the reports coming. You have obviously made a few mistakes but its admirable that you choose to share them on this forum. Sharing info is what this forum is all about, whether good experiences or bad. Enjoy the rest of your trip.[/QUOTE]
I don't agree with that. In my opinion, Naked Lie guy is just a sexually undecided (check ladyboy experience) attention / mild punishment seeker. His nickname is actually hinting to that already! He likes to take attitudes variating from posing as a newcomer in need of advice, to the refusal of admitting how he fucked up when the real mistake was not to drop his wallet out of sight, but to not shake the girl for the money stolen.
Read his latest post, lot of polished verbiage and self-justification, without ever coming to the real issue, a matter of low self-esteem possibly, in any case he has a serious need to man up. I see no value in his postings at this time.
Here's my report for my 3rd day in Thailand (2nd in Pattaya)
First of all, thanks Sir Lancelot, Opebo, Wolvenvacht and Sunlover2 for your feedbacks / advices.
By the way regarding my yesterday report about Honey 2. I decided at 10 pm to at least get something right before going to bed, so went to Bliss lounge and got a nice and long BJ with CIM ton save my day.
Today I decided to take it easy and enjoy the day by staying near the swimming pool. I actually wanted to be ready as I was planning to try Devil's Den around 7.30 pm ish.
So here I am. 7.30pm, entering Devil's Den. Inside was few staff people, one of them was European and started discussing with me. He asked me if I wanted him to ask the girl to come in for the line up, I asked how many girl he had available before doing the line up. He said about 10, I said ok.
10 girls came in. 7 left to the yellow line (No Anal sex) and 3 right to the line (Anal sex). Unfortunately for me, all the "superstars" weren't here (Luke, Cake, Holly, Jenna, Alyssa, Tammy.) some others were here. I decided to take Lexi (Anal sex) and Susi (no Anal sex). Susi is a bit (not much) better than on the website pics. FYI Lexi has braces (but I don't mind as long as she's careful when taking Jonas brother into her mouth)
The two girls were talkative (which is a good sign) , Lexi (21) was much more active and leading the way than Susi (20) (who was sweet and giggling but more following than leading. Definitely more following)
We talked a bit (their ok is below average but you can get a few things out of them) while doing the normal process (showered by Lexie).
We went onto the bed and to be honest I felt a bit shy, being with 2 girls that speaks thai together with the light on and so forth can be difficult to manage. My advice would be to get just a bit drunk beforehand just to be more relax and enjoy more. If you're a young new monger like me, then be prepared as it can sincerely be a bit intimidating. The room is of normal size, a mirror on the roof (very useful.)
Another mirror on the side of the bed, a TV, a Fan, a shower and a swing (that looks scary).
On the bed was some "toys", dildo, Susi asked me if I wanted her to shove it my ass, said no thank you and we all laughed. She did a BBBJ (below average) while Lexie was licking my nipple.
Again, this experience, is a routine, by that I mean that they have a "process" that they follow for every customer, of course you can ask whatever you want but if you don't, you'll get the exact same thing than I. A dildo near your balls while being sucked, and another licking your nipple like a robot. When they speak thai together, you know that they speaking about you as they can't seriously be talking about the weather. I'm a 25 blond young monger with blue eye so I guess they were not judging me negatively I guess but still, you always wonder what they're saying when they laugh (and it doesn't help to focus.)
Tried to relax but it wasn't easy and their fake "hmmm" and "oooh yeah come on give it to me" was making me laugh in my head. How can a girl have pleasure licking your nipple (of course it's part of the job to pretend but. Dude. Be just a bit realistic, you're licking the 30th nipple of the day, are you really going to give me some "yeaaah good"?) Of course I'm being a bit harsh but that the kind of stuff that makes me think about this during the act and I can't be very focused on the session.
Anyway, they swapped places and Lexie sucked me (again it wasn't great but wasn't very good either) They continued speaking thai from time to time (I'm trying to focus) and Lexie said "you want to fuckme?" so I fucked her. Again her "oooh hey you fuck me, ooo hmmm good see'est bon (french word) give it to me" was funny. They're both funny girls (Lexie likes to burp (not during the act of course). I asked if I could do Anal with Lexie, she said yes and went doggystyle, It was tight, maybe too tight. Anyway did it listening to her "hmmm yeah you fuck me in ass ooo yeah" while Susi was behind me, touching my nipple and ass.
Overall it was a good session but not transcending. For those who wants a threesome, try it but don't expect the threesome you've dreamed of or in the movies where the two girls kisses with passion, let's say it's a twosome with. Another girl waiting for her turn. Of course this is MY experience, MY POV and some other guys from this forum may have had the time of their life.
Tipped them 100 each and paid the 3600 downstairs.
That's not something I would do again, I tried it, it was ok, but I prefer a one to one session with a girl willing to be more GFE and sincere in her "hmmm yeah I like it" than this place. For those who thinks that this is a negative report, it is not. I wanted to try it, it was as I expected, funny, but not really of my taste. I invite people that are curious and got 3600 to spare, to try it at least once to make your own judgement and be able to tell that you've done a "threesome" in your life.
I'm planning to go back to Bangkok tomorrow. 2 days in Pattaya was way enough for me. Overall I'm not a huge fan of this place. Also because I'm alone and I don't really feel comfortable going to gogo bars by myself. I'm sure If I had been with someone I would have tried more stuffs. Pattaya needs to be tried at least once. It's a city filled with gogo bars, plenty of girls (even in low season) and you can always find a girl of your taste.
Thanks. I'll continue posting reports in the Bangkok thread tomorrow.
Valoulou
By the way, on my back, I stopped by a restaurant to eat something. A couple of Russian came and talked to me (they thought I was Russian) anyway, the guy told me that few hours ago, he was walking with his wife when, at an intersection, a scooter went by and grabbed it's gold chain. In my head, I was like, dude, why would you come to a country, where people earn very little money, with a 24 gold carat chain around your neck for everybody to take?
Although I don't blame him as it could have happened to anyone, I just think it's common sense not to bring stuff of value with you when you're going to a foreign country that you don't know.
For those of you who have big gold chain, just leave it at home or in your safe.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1442552]Why didn't you go get your 700 baht bar fine back?[/QUOTE]Add another self-defined monger to the long list of "Oh, no big deal, my time is worth more than that".
I'm posting this because I have no issue whatsoever with Katoyes, even gave a ride home to one the other nigth, but I have a slight issue with posters that come here as if "just getting a BJ" from one is nothing.
Sure, you're in Thailand (but you could get the same service in streets of Rome or, Miami) , and you think that everything goes. They look good and them being men, they supposedly know how to suck cock better. Yeah right, it's 2013, time to open our minds?
Nope, sorry, the small issue is that Thailand being the Land Of Sex, where among all the available latitudes, that I could briefly list here from the laundry lady that one bangs when no better option, to the weak-handed soapie youngie, to the sex-starved disco lady than lands in your life bags and all after 3 days, you think is cool to getiing blown by a disguised man that is worth more in makeup than wits?
This forum is not your friend drunk confession hour. This is where where men reports aboit (paid) sexual experiences with women. If you like transexuals, I have one advice for your diminuished masculinity, go all the way down, bend over and use plenty of lubrication (after you get used, you can replace with spit). Many come well-endowed, can service you good and if you like it, good for you. Then there will be other Internet places to share that if you whish.
But please, leave us alone enjoing the always the rules-defying game of enjoing our sexual life just as our prevalent genetics dictate.
QUOTE=Naked Lie; 1441652]I can understand your reaction but let me assure you that this is the one and only time during my trip that I will pay 5000 for any girl and this only because very good looking and outstanding experience.
Forgetting my pants was extremely sloppy though but the fault was all mine and if you would have expected me to lecture her or something I think you overrate a mongers possibilities to affect the morals of a working girl. There is no way she is not going to try and take money if she gets such an obvious chance.[/QUOTE]My last post on my visit to Pats and wondering what the hell has happened, well I got my answer. You know there are some mongers that live in Pats, BKK, Phnom Penh, around south east asia, please don't over pay the girls, I don't care if she gave you the best service you've had in your whole life.
You know 10 years ago I was sitting at Home Away from Home, K11 Phnom Penh, and talking to a young monger that just tipped a Vietnam girl $100 or 3000 Baht. The going rate was 100 Baht. Yes 100 Baht and hot cuties that gave excellent service. Yup $5 ST. I came unglued on the guy, you could buy a virgin for a week or to keep for as long as you wanted for $200-$300.
Now I go to all the places that the local Thai's and Khmer's go, one good thing is I speak both languages or I'll get a girlfriend that is usually a virgin for a girlfriend and there's lots of them out there, but they are a bit of work. Once I have one though I pay them $30-$100 a month. The Go Go bars now are just out to lunch 1000 Baht bar fine and the girls wanting 2000-3000 Baht, these girls are making more money than doctors because of people over paying for an uneducated farm girl that just came out of the rice fields.
I've had to go to GFs there more in touch with reality, the don't think they are famous movie stars, because there make the same or more money.
Thanks for fcking things up out there people, now I'm stuck with garment factory works, going to the countryside picking up farm girls and my most steady GF that does her best to keep her eye on me and she's good at it she's a University student (English Literature) supper jealous type, the others all know about her and work around her, but I don't want the emotional attachment. I can't be happy with one women after fcking over a thousand girls in my life. Variety is the spice of life.
Stop spoiling thing for local monger and mongers that follow you. Read the posts, bargain with the girls, soon I'm going to send out my GFs to work ripping off newbies, teach them how to play you, maybe then when you guys start gettin burned, hell what am I saying your already getting burned I don't need to teach them they have already learnt on there own.
Use to be $5 ST and $15 LT. The girls were still making good money at those prices. I think we should all band together and say sorry that's all we'll pay and walk if they want more or tell them if the service is good I'll tip you. I'm a Dreamer those days are gone, but you might get girls for that in some really poor or war torn countries only now.
Well I'm done rambling it's 1:30 am and I was up at 5 am, I'll probably read this tomorrow and think WTF is that you wrote.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1442634]I'm posting this because I have no issue whatsoever with Katoyes, even gave a ride home to one the other nigth, but I have a slight issue with posters that come here as if "just getting a BJ" from one is nothing.
Sure, you're in Thailand (but you could get the same service in streets of Rome or, Miami) , and you think that everything goes. They look good and them being men, they supposedly know how to suck cock better. Yeah right, it's 2013, time to open our minds?
Nope, sorry, the small issue is that Thailand being the Land Of Sex, where among all the available latitudes, that I could briefly list here from the laundry lady that one bangs when no better option, to the weak-handed soapie youngie, to the sex-starved disco lady than lands in your life bags and all after 3 days, you think is cool to getiing blown by a disguised man that is worth more in makeup than wits?
This forum is not your friend drunk confession hour. This is where where men reports aboit (paid) sexual experiences with women. If you like transexuals, I have one advice for your diminuished masculinity, go all the way down, bend over and use plenty of lubrication (after you get used, you can replace with spit). Many come well-endowed, can service you good and if you like it, good for you. Then there will be other Internet places to share that if you whish.
But please, leave us alone enjoing the always the rules-defying game of enjoing our sexual life just as our prevalent genetics dictate.[/QUOTE]You could have just said that discussing LBs is not an acceptable subject on this board as per the forum rules. No need to go all preachy. Some (not me) might say that such rant is a sure sign of your own repressed homosexuality.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1442634]I'm posting this because I have no issue whatsoever with Katoyes, even gave a ride home to one the other nigth, but I have a slight issue with posters that come here as if "just getting a BJ" from one is nothing.[/QUOTE]It is just forum rules. Period. Nothing to be debated, discussed, favoured, hated. No talks and that's it!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1442552]Why didn't you go get your 700 baht bar fine back?[/QUOTE]Went in today, and asked for my barfine back, of course, given the non-functional I'd situation from last night with the girl from the Windmill. The evil mamasan refused to fork over the 700 THB, to which I immediately responded,"I want to talk to the owner." She skulked off, and I watched her present the situation to him, and he glanced over to me, and recognized me from my many times in his bar. I saw his lips move with the words "petty cash" somewhere there in his reply, and then mamasan turned on her cloven hooves, and left. Three minutes later the owner handing me the 700 THB himself, and we shook hands. No harm, no foul. A little muss, a little fuss, but I admire his taking leadership of the situation.
And yes, we should always return non-performing girls, or confront situations like this one, with firmness and with respect. That's a given. The owner of Windmill has my respect, and my continued business.
[QUOTE=Gunga Din; 1442705]<snip> And yes, we should always return non-performing girls, or confront situations like this one, with firmness and with respect. That's a given. The owner of Windmill has my respect, and my continued business.[/QUOTE]My apologies for having hinted that you wouldn't. Your results in understanding conversational Thai also speak good about your attitude. Well done.
Bionicman, Wolvenvatch: Point taken. I've asked Jackson to remove my posting, we'll see what he sees in all that.
The regeneration of our beloved Beach Road continues. Work has commenced up to soi 11, thereafter our loves will be found on duty towards Walking street in what appears to be a fairly good nightly turnout. From the obese to the gorgeous are on parade, all keen for work. I even saw pornstar, Noi, sans panties and shorter hairstyle, those huge superboobs were so inviting it was a hard personal battle to rid myself, she was keen for a rounder which required all my self discipline to decline for a later meet-up which I promised her. Some girls have gravitated towards sio 6 and up until soi 2, but number few.
Once completed I believe the Beach Road will perhaps see an improvement despite the fact the meandering, almost romantic, old walkway is now just a memory. Why, oh why, did they have to carry out these works just when I was due is my bad luck I suppose, nevertheless I have had to resort to the old barfine over several nights until I took the stroll further down from soi 6 which is where I choose to stay even though I do not frequent the bars in soi 6 that often, it is still a good location to base oneself.
Other matters: My arrival was last Saturday, the waters were disgustingly filthy after some rain I presume, sadly I could not swim amongst your turds, cheerfully it cleared after several days and I am now in my element swimming daily and hunting nightly after a few cold ones. I have obviously had some loves from the Beach Road and barfined a good lady from Lovely Corner bar with whom I had good chemistry with and rather against my norm I spent two days with her until I gently broke it to her that I needed my space back. I stole a glance at her, I will be damned, but I'm sure as hell she was fighting back tears, she nevertheless accepted her fate of being a bargirl having to move on. Got a lady my age out of Rolling Stone bar in Walking st, interestingly, this lady is a keen swimmer, I managed to remove her denims she insisted on swimming with once we got out into the depths. Sex is nigh impossible without copious amounts of lube under water, I learnt this years back in my teens. I brought her off with my good fingers after which she jacked me off to one of the most intense climaxes I have ever experienced in my life, must be something to do with the floating effect of ones innards. What an experience.
Thursday night I had a gorgeous girl with quite the most remarkable behind, her button sized anus received my tongue as deep it would go and the morning session was even better, so intense, I was still shaking at brunch where I managed to pour the milk all over the table save for the tea. The Beergarden appears to be extremely busy, had to wait for a table to be seated with multiple choices of freelancers on duty. For Friday night, Soi 7 & 8 resembled Ghost Town, low season really has hit the highest low, there are hardly any punters about just loads of general tourists, Pattaya is morphing into another Amsterdam, for those of you that have been there on the weekends; families browse the decadence on display, all really bizarre if you ask me me. Five years back one hardly saw a European women in Pattaya, now they probably outnumber punters. Appalling!
Shoot!
[QUOTE=Marcos;1442714]Bionicman, Wolvenvatch: Point taken. I've asked Jackson to remove my posting, we'll see what he sees in all that.[/QUOTE]I can respect a man who acknowledges his mistake. If ever we meet I buy you a cold one!
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1442690]Some (not me) might say that such rant is a sure sign of your own repressed homosexuality.[/QUOTE]Up to 60% (but not necessarily me) would agree that was pretty much uncalled for. There had been remarks in the forum that its rules were "rigid" and that we (who are "we"?) "don't want to lose" member XYZ over posting FR including the type of SW in question.
As ISG members we have agreed to follow the rules. Period. Let's move on.
[QUOTE=Naked Lie; 1442142]Concerning the moral of thai working girls:
I think that some of you underestimate their ability to judge the situation. Although a working girl might not see it wise to steal from you for whatever reason; a knowledge of your experience or chances that you might deem it worthwhile to complain to management or just what a gentlemanlike fellow you are she might very well judge differently with someone else. Probably there are also girls who would simply never do such a horrid thing and all respect! Much harder to walk the narrow in an environment such as theirs.[/QUOTE]Yesterday night, I visited Sweethearts. I know a few girls there, and asked whether they have heard about such story. Normally, the girls chat among themselves, when something special happens. But none of the girls had heard about the 5000 Baht or the stolen 2000 Baht.
There are also two mamasans, one is new since 3 weeks. She is a bit shorter and has a more round face. She puts the ballpoint pen into her hair. The longer serving mamasan has her reading glasses hanging on a necklace, and her face is slimmer. It would be interesting to know which of the two mamasans was involved.
Furthermore, I did not see any girl who would fit the description. It would be good to know her number in the bar.
I also know the owner / manager of the Sweethearts. If there are any hard facts, we could discuss the issue with him and the mama involved.
But it seems that Naked Lie prefers to leave it as it is. Nomen est omen?
Wonderer
[QUOTE=Wonderer; 1442966]Yesterday night, I visited Sweethearts. I know a few girls there, and asked whether they have heard about such story. Normally, the girls chat among themselves, when something special happens. But none of the girls had heard about the 5000 Baht or the stolen 2000 Baht.
There are also two mamasans, one is new since 3 weeks. She is a bit shorter and has a more round face. She puts the ballpoint pen into her hair. The longer serving mamasan has her reading glasses hanging on a necklace, and her face is slimmer. It would be interesting to know which of the two mamasans was involved.
Furthermore, I did not see any girl who would fit the description. It would be good to know her number in the bar.
I also know the owner / manager of the Sweethearts. If there are any hard facts, we could discuss the issue with him and the mama involved.
But it seems that Naked Lie prefers to leave it as it is. Nomen est omen?
Wonderer[/QUOTE]According to the OP, the sticky-fingered girl's name is Bee. Then, there are two types of thieves, one that will need to boast about it and one that doesn't. I think that given the "common Thai values", the latter is more prevalent. In the DR, a girl would have took 2K, but boasted 10.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1441764]The worst part is when you discovered that the girl stole 2000bt from you and you didn't say or do anything about it. In fact you continued your Bizarro behavior and shelled out another 3000bt and convinced yourself she was a great girl who showed you a great time. Are you insane?[/QUOTE]Guys like this should be banned from boards like this! Fucking up the market royally! Sometimes mongers get robbed or ripped off (that is understandable) , but to reward the ***** who stole from you is worse than a Japanese tipping a girl for NOT giving a BJ. Go hang out with the Japs where you belong!
Nah, it's cool bro you made a mistake. You can stay in the club, I guess. Just stop acting so Japaneses. LOL
Thanks for the through report on Devils Den Valoulou. My comments are from my experiences and for those who follow in your footsteps:
[QUOTE=Valoulou; 1442610]So here I am. 7.30pm, entering Devil's Den. Inside was few staff people, one of them was European and started discussing with me. He asked me if I wanted him to ask the girl to come in for the line up, I asked how many girl he had available before doing the line up. He said about 10, I said ok.
10 girls came in. 7 left to the yellow line (No Anal sex) and 3 right to the line (Anal sex). Unfortunately for me, all the "superstars" weren't here (Luke, Cake, Holly, Jenna, Alyssa, Tammy.) some others were here.[/QUOTE]This is why I like to schedule an appointment at DD. They open at 1pm so you can either stop by or call. DD takes incall appointments up to starting the session at midnight. Of course you can also schedule an outcall appointment to your hotel at any point during the day (including overnight.)
[QUOTE=Valoulou;1442610]Again, this experience, is a routine, by that I mean that they have a "process" that they follow for every customer, of course you can ask whatever you want but if you don't, you'll get the exact same thing than I.[/QUOTE]Yes this is often reported. It is up to you to break them of their routine if you choose to. It is natural to be somewhat intimidated in this type of situation, so I think they just take the lead accordingly. It is also helpful to talk to them before the session starts and tell them what you are looking to do.
[QUOTE=Valoulou;1442610]When they speak thai together, you know that they speaking about you as they can't seriously be talking about the weather. I'm a 25 blond young monger with blue eye so I guess they were not judging me negatively I guess but still, you always wonder what they're saying when they laugh (and it doesn't help to focus.)[/QUOTE]This is why I prefer to take the ladies one at a time on an outcall basis. Better focus. First time as part of a double, repeats as a solo at my hotel. And I have found in general with this hobby repeating pays big dividends performance wise after familiarity has been established.
[QUOTE=Valoulou;1442610]Overall it was a good session but not transcending. For those who wants a threesome, try it but don't expect the threesome you've dreamed of or in the movies where the two girls kisses with passion, let's say it's a twosome with. Another girl waiting for her turn. Of course this is MY experience, MY POV and some other guys from this forum may have had the time of their life.[/QUOTE]This is basically correct the first lady you select takes the lead and the second is more like a standing by 'helper' so to speak. For sure the ladies at DD will get PSE kinky from moment one, but real [I]passion [/I]like any other P4P experience can be hit or miss.
Take it from long time monger. A [I]once in a lifetime experience [/I]only happens by definition once in a lifetime. High expectations on a single session can be difficult to meet. Take it as it comes and it's all good. Most anyone reading your report would have traded places with you in a heartbeat.
Thanks again for the posting.
SunLover
What's the percentage change that the girls of BKK let you film them or take pics. I know some don't like it at all. Do you ask before hand as a courtesy so they don't get pissed off later? Do they charge more or just ask up front? Anyone use flash cards to communicate or is it easy enough to talk to the girls. Heading over to visit. Thanks Oh and what's better, staying in Bangkok or going to Pattaya?
[QUOTE=Noddy;1442715]The regeneration of our beloved Beach Road continues. Work has commenced up to soi 11, thereafter our loves will be found on duty towards Walking street in what appears to be a fairly good nightly turnout. From the obese to the gorgeous are on parade, all keen for work.[/QUOTE]Thank you, Noddy. I was in Pattaya in late November. I was not in top form physically, so it is possible that is the reason why the place I had visited several times before failed to impress me this time. Also, I am in my late 60s now, so my preferences may also have changed. I thought punters like me, holding the hands of girls the age of their grandchildren, looked ridiculous. But to each his own.
I had BJs from two women. One upstaris in a bar, the other one from Beach Road early in the morning, executed in a shorttime notel. I get better blow jobs from streetwalkers in the city where I live.
Nevertheless I acknowledge that while my good old days were in the 1980s (in Africa and Thailand), young novice mongers' good old days will be whatever they are at right now. Gather ye rosebuds while ye may!
[QUOTE=Valoulou; 1442610]So here I am. 7.30pm, entering Devil's Den.
Again, this experience, is a routine, by that I mean that they have a "process" that they follow for every customer, of course you can ask whatever you want but if you don't, you'll get the exact same thing than I.[/QUOTE]Why would you expect not to get the same thing? It's a job, and most jobs are routine. You go into the office, or the field, or whatever and usually do the exact same thing you did with the last stack of papers, the last bale of hay, the last whatever. You probably have a process when you get with a girl as well. Maybe you start kissing her face, mouth, neck. Then you go for the chest. If she is receptive you try to take her shirt off. Very routine shit. Think about your best sex experience. What was so good about it? Now think if every woman thereafter matched that. After a while you would not say you had 100 best experiences. You would instead say the shit was routine because you had experienced it 100 times.
[QUOTE=Valoulou;1442610]When they speak thai together, you know that they speaking about you as they can't seriously be talking about the weather. I'm a 25 blond young monger with blue eye so I guess they were not judging me negatively[/QUOTE]Why would you think they wouldn't judge you negatively simply because of your age, hair color and eye color? They usually judge young blond hair blue eye guys the worse! They could be talking about anything. Again, this is very routine for them. They are not in it for the experience of ecstasy as you are. Think of a mechanic working on a car. He is under the hood turning whatever and all of a sudden he says to his helper,"Hey, did you see that episode of XYZ show last night?" Not necessarily talking about the car he is working on, but talking about something else to pass the time. And of course it is going to be in Thai because that is more comfortable for them. Quand vous etes avec vos amis and other people from another country may be in the vicinity you still talk to your friends in French right? They figure you are there to get your dick wet and not to know what their mundane conversations are about.
[QUOTE=Valoulou;1442610]I'm planning to go back to Bangkok tomorrow. 2 days in Pattaya was way enough for me. Overall I'm not a huge fan of this place. Also because I'm alone and I don't really feel comfortable going to gogo bars by myself. I'm sure If I had been with someone I would have tried more stuffs. Pattaya needs to be tried at least once. It's a city filled with gogo bars, plenty of girls (even in low season) and you can always find a girl of your taste.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reports. In your Bangkok report you said that you would stay in Pattaya 4 days if you liked it. After you experienced Pattaya you say that 2 days were enough for you. From your reports I gather you were in Bangkok alone as well, doing the same mongering exercises you were doing in Pattaya. So how is it that you feel more comfortable doing the same thing in one place as opposed to the other? What makes you choose Bangkok over Pattaya?
[QUOTE=Vittu;1443061]I was not in top form physically, so it is possible that is the reason why the place I had visited several times before failed to impress me this time. Also, I am in my late 60s now, so my preferences may also have changed. I thought punters like me, holding the hands of girls the age of their grandchildren, looked ridiculous. But to each his own.[/QUOTE]I'm 41 and holding hands with a prostitute of any age to me seems ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Vittu;1443061]Nevertheless I acknowledge that while my good old days were in the 1980s (in Africa and Thailand), young novice mongers' good old days will be whatever they are at right now.[/QUOTE]At least you have sense enough to realize this and not proclaim the sky is falling.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1443070]I'm 41 and holding hands with a prostitute of any age to me seems ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Why? Do you think kissing is ridiculous as well?
[QUOTE=Piperpilot;1443056]What's the percentage change that the girls of BKK let you film them or take pics. I know some don't like it at all. Do you ask before hand as a courtesy so they don't get pissed off later? Do they charge more or just ask up front? Anyone use flash cards to communicate or is it easy enough to talk to the girls. Heading over to visit. Thanks Oh and what's better, staying in Bangkok or going to Pattaya?[/QUOTE]According to your nick you like me probably enjoy aviation. Well percentage is hard to predict as I will be damned if such stats exists but anyway your best bet is to just ask upfront if it is ok if you took some pics and even a vid of them. I am by far an expert and maby I take pics of like 50% of all the P4P girls I bring back. I have a bigger stock of pics but that is from regular girls with a bit different history and none P4P. Most of the girls I am with are ok with some pic and I even don't ask until we are back at my place. If a girls says no I say ok. It is not that important for me so I end the session bcs I can not get a pic from her.
Just work on the chemistry, create a playful mood and say you will never make use of the pics others than for your personal use. Some girls are, from very good reasons, afraid of getting their nude pic(in combination with face) out in the open. When I come to think of it I can not not remember a girl saying no to a photo (nude yes) with clothes. Often I don't mind take photo only with clothes so i just skip it but that is another story.
You just use common sense and you should not have to pay more but maby be a bit more generous with your tip so the next mongerer out there also can have his pics. LOL
[QUOTE=Piperpilot;1443056]What's the percentage change that the girls of BKK let you film them or take pics. I know some don't like it at all. Do you ask before hand as a courtesy so they don't get pissed off later? Do they charge more or just ask up front? Anyone use flash cards to communicate or is it easy enough to talk to the girls. Heading over to visit. Thanks Oh and what's better, staying in Bangkok or going to Pattaya?[/QUOTE]LOL @ flash cards, would you use flashcards to know if anal sex was OK? Just wave your camera and front of them, smile, and nod your head. Most Thai girls love to have their picture taken and always will want to see the end results. As far as which is better, BKK or Pattaya that's entirely up to you, give them both a visit.
Thanks! Heading out there in a couple months and want to know what to expect. It seems the girls are more playful there. Do you have much experience with non-P4P girls? Is that likely there in a short period of time? I'll be there for a week.
Ever have problem taking video of the girls while playing?
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1443095]According to your nick you like me probably enjoy aviation. Well percentage is hard to predict as I will be damned if such stats exists but anyway your best bet is to just ask upfront if it is ok if you took some pics and even a vid of them. I am by far an expert and maby I take pics of like 50% of all the P4P girls I bring back. I have a bigger stock of pics but that is from regular girls with a bit different history and none P4P. Most of the girls I am with are ok with some pic and I even don't ask until we are back at my place. If a girls says no I say ok. It is not that important for me so I end the session bcs I can not get a pic from her.
Just work on the chemistry, create a playful mood and say you will never make use of the pics others than for your personal use. Some girls are, from very good reasons, afraid of getting their nude pic (in combination with face) out in the open. When I come to think of it I can not not remember a girl saying no to a photo (nude yes) with clothes. Often I don't mind take photo only with clothes so I just skip it but that is another story.
You just use common sense and you should not have to pay more but maby be a bit more generous with your tip so the next mongerer out there also can have his pics. LOL[/QUOTE]
Haha yeah, I heard of the flash card thing somewhere. Since I've never been there and don't speak the language, just wasn't sure you know? Haha.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1443104]LOL @ flash cards, would you use flashcards to know if anal sex was OK? Just wave your camera and front of them, smile, and nod your head. Most Thai girls love to have their picture taken and always will want to see the end results. As far as which is better, BKK or Pattaya that's entirely up to you, give them both a visit.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Piperpilot; 1443109]Thanks! Heading out there in a couple months and want to know what to expect. It seems the girls are more playful there. Do you have much experience with non-P4P girls? Is that likely there in a short period of time? I'll be there for a week.
Ever have problem taking video of the girls while playing?[/QUOTE]I think from a mongerperspective I have 50% P4P experience and 50% non P4P experience so relatively equal exp so to speak. I meet my non P4P mostly through datingsites and through friends allready located in BKK. Regular girls(simular GF material I use several times and in longer times(several days) during my visits. P4P 1 day max at the most. My record from Phils is 2 days without leaving room. So in Thai/Phils everything is possible. BKK is my main asian huntingground with only 1 or 2 days visits into Patts (that is all I can handle of Pattaya as, even if many likes it, I can not take it in bigger portions). Datingsitesgirls you can meet I guess also in Pattaya and they can be good for a week use. But if Pattaya is your destination maby others will be more experts than me. I have just tried in general matters described photos and now a bit of girls you can meet for a week or so without beeing attached to a certain place. In BKK, simply bcs it is much much much bigger, you have more to choose from and probably (in stats) far less P4P girls. But if you stay in lower Suk in BKK it feels almost the same(but that is just a tiny tiny tiny area of BKK, hehe)..
Never realy tried video while playing with P4P or regulars in Asia. Only a few homemade ones with my GF back home.
[/QUOTE]But please, leave us alone enjoing the always the rules-defying game of enjoing our sexual life just as our prevalent genetics dictate.[/QUOTE]Jeez, don't be so hard on the Beaver. It's not like her buggered him. Or worse: corn holed by a katooey!
[QUOTE=Piperpilot;1443056]What's the percentage change that the girls of BKK let you film them or take pics. I know some don't like it at all. Do you ask before hand as a courtesy so they don't get pissed off later? Do they charge more or just ask up front? Anyone use flash cards to communicate or is it easy enough to talk to the girls. Heading over to visit. Thanks Oh and what's better, staying in Bangkok or going to Pattaya?[/QUOTE]I have pictures of every girl I was with in Pattaya, some are into pictures nude poses even let me shoot pornographic movies while I was fucking them. Some just let you take a picture with clothes on. Depends on the girl.
Chris
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1443068]They figure you are there to get your dick wet and not to know what their mundane conversations are about.[/QUOTE]That's for sure. In fact one problem with understanding Thai is that you're lying there trying to stay in the mood while the girls are chatting about their skin rashes or their drunkard brother or some stupid TV show they saw last night. The customer is the last thing they're going to talk about.
Are any punters contemplating visiting Pattaya becoming concerned by all these negative reports lately? The barrage of news about high bar-fines, outrages girl fees, and overall poor service is very off-putting. Hope it's not true!
[QUOTE=Monopoly;1443158]Are any punters contemplating visiting Pattaya becoming concerned by all these negative reports lately? The barrage of news about high bar-fines, outrages girl fees, and overall poor service is very off-putting. Hope it's not true![/QUOTE]If you've been reading the forum, guys have been complaining about high bar fines, decline in service, decline in quality girls, traffic, weather, airfare, beer, the Japanese, the Arabs, the Germans, the Americans, food, sanitation, smog, etc for the past 15+ years. Nevertheless, they keep coming back and they keep complaining about the same things over and over again.
[quote=gunga din; 1442442]breezed into pattaya last night, and was upgraded from my suite to a corner suite with more space. awesome. at least my first night was starting well, but unknown to me it would go downhill a few hours later. after a shower and change of clothes i decide to head over to my old haunt at the windmill, nasty and wild as you can find near walking street, mostly to check in on a girl from my last visit, and perhaps get some welcome-to-sin-city late evening action. nothing fancy, but i was hoping to get her to stay overnight, rather than her usual running back to the bar at 2 am nonsense. yes, i was tired.
i stopped over at beefeater steak house on soi diana and second, for a celebratory evening meal. i popped a little blue vitamin before the steak arrived, because you just know the fat in the meal will inhibit the effect later on. after an enjoyable meal i decided to walk to the windmill along second, to get my joints loosened up from the long airflight. but as soon as i walked in the bar i got a sense things were not going to go my way. not only was my previous girl absent, but her friends reported she was now unusually pum pui (fat). oh, well, i joked back to them, i'll turn her around and go doggy on her long time; pum pui is not a problem. no one got my joke, as expected, but soon new contenders for the job of welcoming me back to pattaya were magically sitting next to me, taking turns in stroking my member. a tall 19-year old with braces and a flat belly ('me no baby') was massaging my groin from the right side, doing a fair job, and getting the expected v-inspired instant response. all thoughts of now ditching the windmill and heading somewhere else began to fade, as the blood drained from my brain, heading south. then, like a jungle cat smelling a kill nearby, the mamasan appeared on my left. she knew me from my many last visits barfining several of her girls, and i knew her as a liar.
'you want her go with you? ' she motioned towards the 19-year old, who i had now relocated to my lap, and was slowly grinding her tight little ass into my groin. i had slipped a 100 note into her skirt band to increase her enthusiasm, but i was still intending to walk out soon. 'overnight, only', i said, knowing the response would be a no. it was too early to let the girls out, especially on low season in pattaya. there was a pause, and the jungle cat inched closer to me, eyes narrowing, teeth extending. 'you send her back 3am, take her short time. '. hmm. that's four hours, not a bad sweetener to the deal. the big gunga head conferred rapidly with the small gunga head (the one on my shoulders) , and someone using my vocal cords apparently said, 'ok'.
as expected, my bill included a mamasan drink that i had not ordered for her, along with a 700 thb bar fine, and a few other drinks i had actually ordered for three other barely-clothed contestants. ok, what the hell, it could be worse, and i was in no mood to argue the small stuff. i watched the 19-year old head back to get into her street clothes. time to leave, now, before i change my mind.
as we arrived at my hotel i asked her, as always, in the taxi, 'have i'd? '. she nodded.
the hotel desk clerk gave her the usual thai interrogation all girls get, as we all negotiate the border checkpoint between the road and my bed. 'name? ', he asked her, in thai. he paused, comparing her stuttered response with the i'd. 'what is your birthday? ' he asked, again in thai, staring intently at her i'd. five minutes went by, until he turned to me. after several repeated tries she still couldn't give him the same date of birth that was printed on her i'd. she muttered something about having left her "other" card at home. right. this was clearly a fake card, or she had an earlycase of alzheimer's disease. ' i looked at the girl, sighed, and also now started to consider that she may have also be borderline ****, which is not ok with me. i don't take girls younger than 19, on principle. she did seem to match her stated age win. hen i was at the windmill, although it's true i was a little distracted at the time. but the hotel border patrol was clearly unconvinced, and would not let her into the hotel. '[/quote]gunga din, really good report. is nam still at the windmill? never took her out of the bar, and live with that regret to this day! (hope she isn't the one who became pom pui).
hotel desk clerk did well by you. glad to know they are taking care of their guests.
just curious, you mentioned having had long flight. not my business, and not taking a survey here. you are malaysian? i only assumed you would have flown from kl, but maybe you live elsewhere. enjoy your 2 weeks in pattaya!
[QUOTE=Yujin;1443188]If you've been reading the forum, guys have been complaining about high bar fines, decline in service, decline in quality girls, traffic, weather, airfare, beer, the Japanese, the Arabs, the Germans, the Americans, food, sanitation, smog, etc for the past 15+ years. Nevertheless, they keep coming back and they keep complaining about the same things over and over again.[/QUOTE]I have been coming to Pattaya for over twenty years. For sure, it has changed a lot, compared to the "good old days". But there is also more choice and in a way more competition now, compared to before. I still like coming here and don't know any other place on earth that would be comparable. It is just for the fun and excitement.
Yes, some bars are getting ridiculous with their bar fines. Was at Roxy last night. Twenty minutes before they close. Wanted to barfine a cutie, but the mama tells me that the bar fine is 1000 Baht. Just before they close. I told her that 600 would be more reasonable and acceptable. But she is nodding something like "coyote", which I actually don't understand. I replied that in this case, she can forget about the deal. This is the only message we have. If the girls are not taken out anymore and don't make good money anymore, they will avoid working in such bars and go for others.
On the other hand, I changed then to Diamonds in Soi Diamond. They were open until 4:30 AM. Had a lot of fun there. When most of the girls (including some of my "old friends") left, one 23 year old cutie stayed. Brought her back to my hotel without any barfine. She was really great, and we had an early morning session as well as an early afternoon session. Great. Very slim, very small yet sexy titties, gentle, with good manners and reasonably good English.
Gave her the usual fee for LT (3000) Baht, and it was no discussion at all, even though we had not agreed on anything before. But that's a matter of fairness. Perhaps, I am going to see her again.
There are still gems in Pattaya. The supply is immense, and it is just necessary to do some good search. For me, it is always important to feel already in the bar that the chemistry is fine. On the same night yesterday, I sat with a stunner with huge and extremely beautiful tits. Actually wanted to take her, but even though we had lots of fun, she was not hot enough and not too much into it. Then, I usually let her go. This time with regret though, due to the wonderful big naturals.
Wonderer
[QUOTE=Wonderer;1443232]If the girls are not taken out anymore and don't make good money anymore, they will avoid working in such bars and go for others.[/QUOTE]You miss one little thing: nowadays plenty of girls in the gogo bars make enough money by just dancing and selling ld to customers, they don't have to get bf'd to earn money
Thanks for your response Sunlover2.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1443046]This is why I like to schedule an appointment at DD. They open at 1pm so you can either stop by or call. DD takes incall appointments up to starting the session at midnight. Of course you can also schedule an outcall appointment to your hotel at any point during the day (including overnight.)[/QUOTE]I actually tried and I sent a couple of emails during the morning, unfortunately Cake and some others "superstars" were fully booked for the day. I should have booked earlier and it is entirely my fault.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1443046]Yes this is often reported. It is up to you to break them of their routine if you choose to. It is natural to be somewhat intimidated in this type of situation, so I think they just take the lead accordingly. It is also helpful to talk to them before the session starts and tell them what you are looking to do.[/QUOTE]Of course, as being a bit inimidated I thought, with their experiences, they would know what usually people do / like (they actually did) and I didn't had any "specific requests" so their them taking the leads seemed fine to me.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1443046]Take it from long time monger. A [I]once in a lifetime experience [/I]only happens by definition once in a lifetime. High expectations on a single session can be difficult to meet. Take it as it comes and it's all good. Most anyone reading your report would have traded places with you in a heartbeat.[/QUOTE]I'm well aware of that, It was, overall, a good session and I'm not complaining about it, I'm just trying to give an essence of what, new monger like me, should expect when going to DD.
Thanks
[quote=mr enternational;1443068]why would you expect not to get the same thing? it's a job, and most jobs are routine. you go into the office, or the field, or whatever and usually do the exact same thing you did with the last stack of papers, the last bale of hay, the last whatever. you probably have a process when you get with a girl as well. maybe you start kissing her face, mouth, neck. then you go for the chest. if she is receptive you try to take her shirt off. very routine shit. think about your best sex experience. what was so good about it? now think if every woman thereafter matched that. after a while you would not say you had 100 best experiences. you would instead say the shit was routine because you had experienced it 100 times.[/quote]you're entirely right. again, when i was saying that, i wasn't complaining about it. i was trying to give the essence of what dd is about and what new mongers like me should expect to get when going their for their first time. my post was more in a way to make first timer understand that they should take the lead over what's going to happen at dd otherwise, they'll get the same "routine" as others which might be disappointing if you're not prepared for it. i'm not blaming anyone, i had a good session. i'm new, young and inexperienced but i'm learning it the "hard but in fact very pleasant" way.
i don't know, i just thought that being closer to their age would perhaps help them being a bit more "into" it than for certain kind of people. (i'm not trying to offend anyone here). as i read into that same forum, thai likes blue eyes, and being young can increase the number of screams in the gogo bar to get you into that bar. but maybe it's just because they think (and they should) that we are easier to ripped off.
so i thought that they were not judging me negatively, maybe they did and i honestly don't care at all. but on the present moment, when you don't know any thai words, and they got you're cock in their mouth looking at you, speaking thai and laughing. you're just wondering what the fuck they're talking about and that can be intimidating. they were maybe judging me, talking about tv shows, i don't know and never will. my point is that for new comers and first dd timers, that can be intimidating and i think my report + others can help some shy people knowing what to expect.
again i'm not blaming them for speaking thai together, otherwise i would have asked for silence. they have the right to speak thai together about anything they want for all i care. i'm just saying, you can't refrain yourself from wondering what the hell they're talking about and that can be intimidating when you're trying to concentrate on your sex session.
[quote=mr enternational;1443068]thanks for the reports. in your bangkok report you said that you would stay in pattaya 4 days if you liked it. after you experienced pattaya you say that 2 days were enough for you. from your reports i gather you were in bangkok alone as well, doing the same mongering exercises you were doing in pattaya. so how is it that you feel more comfortable doing the same thing in one place as opposed to the other? what makes you choose bangkok over pattaya?[/quote]good point, first of all, bangkok is a city i know a bit more than pattaya, i've been here before a few times so i'm used to the streets, skytrain, prices, restaurants, and so forth. as a city, i find it less messier, better organized than pattaya and therefore felt more comfortable. also, on my first day in bangkok, i had a great session with wan wan from mango. the following day i went to pattaya and didn't really liked the session i had at honey2. in terms of gogobars, pattaya seems to be the place to be, everything is very concentrate and you've got tons of gogobars but as i said previously, i'm not a huge fan of gogobars when being alone therefore i'd rather have an outcall like wan wan at my hotel in bangkok, then going to a movie at mbk than just staying all by myself with a beer in a gogobar in a city like pattaya that i don't really know.
again, i'm sure that if i had been with some other people i would have seen it differently. i don't know if my way to see things make sense to you but this is how i see it.
to resume, bangkok i had a very good session (outcall) with wan wan + a girl from annie's last year versus pattaya where i didn't know the city, didn't really went to gogobars, had a bad session at honey 2 and an average session at dd. also, i felt much more "harassed" at pattaya than in bangkok (because gogobars are more concentrate in pattaya i guess).
my bj session at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] in bangkok and at bliss lounge in pattaya were similar so for bjs both cities were fine.
right now, i prefer bangkok, but might try pattaya again with friends in the future.
thanks
[QUOTE=Zauberfee;1443247]You miss one little thing: nowadays plenty of girls in the gogo bars make enough money by just dancing and selling ld to customers, they don't have to get bf'd to earn money[/QUOTE]My GF who is a professional researcher (now doing her PhD) told me that because of the general increase in wages in Thailand, less "poor" Thai girls feel the need to join the ranks of the bar-girls and a-gogo-girls. Their places have been taken over by (mainly) Lao and (to a lesser extent) Khmer girls. To the uninitiated, Lao girls can easily pose as Isaan girls. Perhaps this influx of foreign girls explains the drop in service levels? Could it be that they are more mercenary and money-wise than their Isaan sisters?
[QUOTE=Zauberfee;1443247]You miss one little thing: nowadays plenty of girls in the gogo bars make enough money by just dancing and selling ld to customers, they don't have to get bf'd to earn money[/QUOTE]You are right, Zauberfee. This is a trend that actually started already a few years ago. In some bars, it is obvious that the girls are not interested to go out and try to squeeze as many lady drinks out of the customers as they can. However, our reaction should be the same: we don't go to these bars anymore. Money talks. In all areas. Perhaps we could start informing each other about such bars, where girls are not motivated anymore to go out with customers. It might have little effect overall, but at least it helps our ISG community. I think of a ranking of the bars by "motivation degree", perhaps on a scale from 1 to 10. Of course, this will always be subjective and depends also on us as individuals as well as on the individual girls. But it could give at least some idea.
Based on my current visit in Pattaya, I will try to do some research on this and report.
Wonderer
[QUOTE=Wonderer;1443293]Perhaps we could start informing each other about such bars, where girls are not motivated anymore to go out with customers. It might have little effect overall, but at least it helps our ISG community.Wonderer[/QUOTE]Where's the "LIKE" button! What you say makes a lot of sense as fitting the ISG purpose. Somehow more valuable than reading how much wet a girl is.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1443070]I'm 41 and holding hands with a prostitute of any age to me seems ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Holding hands with a prostitute of ANY age is ridiculous? You're a prude if they are over 18, because it's fun. Then you got a problem if they are under 18, because it's not just ridiculous, it's illegal. Mr Enternational, you might not have the moral scruples for this forum, and need to go elsewhere.
[QUOTE=SearcherMan;1443366]Holding hands with a prostitute of ANY age is ridiculous? You're a prude if they are over 18, because it's fun. Then you got a problem if they are under 18, because it's not just ridiculous, it's illegal. Mr Enternational, you might not have the moral scruples for this forum, and need to go elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Who are you to say that holding hands _is_ fun and Mr. E needs to go elsewere if it seems ridiculous to him? What one man may like another does not. And what's the need to come again drumming on the legal age, that had absolutely nothing to do with the matter at hand - whatever is was ?
Try to make a better 3rd post, what about information or even a funny story rather than sour judgment.
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1443375]Who are you to say that holding hands _is_ fun and Mr. E needs to go elsewere if it seems ridiculous to him? What one man may like another does not. And what's the need to come again drumming on the legal age, that had absolutely nothing to do with the matter at hand. Whatever is was?
Try to make a better 3rd post, what about information or even a funny story rather than sour judgment.[/QUOTE]Guess I'll have to be more like Mr Entertainer.
I hear there is hotel / resort development slated there, or has it started already? Google street view and utube shows my fav old stretch of Soi 7 is intact, unless development started there in the last year.
[QUOTE=Monopoly;1443158]Are any punters contemplating visiting Pattaya becoming concerned by all these negative reports lately? The barrage of news about high bar-fines, outrages girl fees, and overall poor service is very off-putting. Hope it's not true![/QUOTE]I must say on all of the pages on ISG, the Pattaya thread seems the most divorced from reality. Some gogo bars do have steep bar-fines but if that puts anyone off, don't go to Walking Street (or do your research and find out which bars are the ones to avoid). If a girl quote high, negotiate. It's also worth bearing in mind that Pattaya is beer-bar capital of the world where lots of lovely girls can be found for cheap prices and yet you only ever seem to read about gogo bars on here for some reason.
Anyone contemplating a trip to Pattaya should go. As Wonderer says, the sheer volume of girls is spectacular, whether you like gogo bars, beer bars, massage parlours, freelance discos or the sleaze of Soi 6 and Beach Road. If you're interested, I posted a very positive week-long diary of Pattaya on this thread about a month ago I think. I really enjoyed the place and you only have to see the number of visitors (and the fact that people go back year after year) to see that plenty of other people feel the same way.
[QUOTE=Zauberfee;1443247]You miss one little thing: nowadays plenty of girls in the gogo bars make enough money by just dancing and selling ld to customers, they don't have to get bf'd to earn money[/QUOTE]This is a good point. I think the deluge of regular tourists on Walking Street is turning some bars in to rip-off joints. I got quoted a bar-fine of 1000 baht in some places. I bar-fined a girl from one place who amusingly pulled a huge wad of notes out of her bra when she got unchanged. When I asked her about it she told me she usually gets at least 15 lady-drinks a night. You only need to do the maths to realise that popular girls don't need to go with customers.
It's worth noting however that some bars are more customer-orientated, even on Walking Street. Surprisingly one of those was Baby Dolls. It's Japanese-owned I believe and has some pretty girls so I expected high prices but their bar-fine system has some common sense applied to it. Short-time is 600 baht and long-time 800 but ALL bar-fines drop to 300 baht after 1.30am for every girl. I think more bars should follow suit.
[QUOTE=SearcherMan;1443366]Holding hands with a prostitute of ANY age is ridiculous? You're a prude if they are over 18, because it's fun. Then you got a problem if they are under 18, because it's not just ridiculous, it's illegal. Mr Enternational, you might not have the moral scruples for this forum, and need to go elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Seeing the old guys like me out to dinner with the young prostitutes makes me think that even talking with them is ridiculous. They are for sex. I only want and hour, two hours at most, short time these days.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1443534]I only want and hour, two hours at most, short time these days.[/QUOTE]I think almost all of us in this hobby eventually end up feeling that way. Once in a while I'll still meet someone I actually enjoy hanging out with and spending the night with. But even then, holding hands? No way. It just looks silly.
[QUOTE=Betong;1443541]But even then, holding hands? No way. It just looks silly.[/QUOTE]Especially when you are 2 to 3 times her age!
pattaya is a beach town along the cost of thailand it's about an hour and a half to two hour drive south of bangkok. pattaya is nana plaza on steroids.
getting there:
there are a variety of taxi services that provide transportation and many taxi drivers that you meet in the nana district in bangkok will also drive you there. most if not all hotels and guest houses in pattaya can also arrange transportation for you. there is also a local bus service that runs between bangkok and pattaya. but the best transportation service in my opinion and the one that i will always use in the future is mr. t taxi service 1000 bhat bangkok to pattaya and 900 bhat pattaya to bangkok airport. i arranged for them to pick me up at my hotel in bangkok and there was no extra charge.
pattaya:
pattaya is a city of sex there really is no other way to describe it, everything about pattaya is geared towards sex, it is an entire city built around sex. the monger area is quite large but walkable. the monger area encompassed far more than i traveled but for me i ranged from soi 6 to walking street and from soi buakhao to beach road with soi diana soi 7 and 8 and lk metro and second street in between. getting around in pattaya is quite easy, i personally walked everywhere when i was by myself but there are bhat busses that run in a rectangle along second street going past soi 6 and then coming back on beach road up to the beginning of walking street and then they turn back up to second st. price should be 10 bhat to ride, just stand on the side of the road when they pass they will slow down to see if you want to jump on. just simply jump on and when the bus gets to where you want to get off there is a little buzzer on the roof, ring it and the driver will stop, there are no designated stops or pickups, and they just pull over when they see someone standing on the side of the road and stop when someone rings the buzzer. be careful when paying on more than one occasion the driver tried giving me less than the correct change and often when i seen bhat busses stopped along the side of the road with no passengers the drivers would try to quote me ridicules prices, if they think you are inexperienced they will try to take advantage of you. there are also motor concha drivers especially near walking street, these are guys on little mini bikes who will give you a ride, they were charging me 50 bhat per passenger so for you and your bar fine it will be 100 bhat, had a couple try to quote me some ridicules price after they dropped us off, when this happened i just handed them 100 bhat and shook my head and walked away. if they think you are a newbie and don't know better they will try to take advantage of you. getting around in pattaya should not be a problem the whole thing is just one big rectangle, soi 6 to walking street and soi bukhaw to beach road, you can walk to where you want to go, i always did or you can take a bhat bus or moto conch.
gogo bars:
gogo bars are rep001tered throughout pattaya but mainly concentrated on walking street and the side streets that jut off of walking street and along lk metro. personally i found the gogos on lk metro to be a litte higher in price than the ones on walking street. but quality in my opinion is the same. there are a few on walking street that catered more to the asian mongers and in these gogos the girls did not pay much attention to me or my wing man who was also caucasian. there are, however, a number of gogo bars where the girls are very attentive and a great deal of fun, windmill off of walking street comes to mind. gogo bars can be a lot of fun and in many of them the girls get naked and put on quite a good show going down on each other and i noticed in a few the customers were going down on them as well. keep in mind the goal of the gogo bars both here and in bangkok is to separate you from your money so you will be expected to purchase a drink and momason or a waitress will try to get you interested in taking a girl, or a girl will just come up to you, the goal is for you buy her a lady drink or more. once you purchase her a drink however your hands are free to roam and explore her crevices often her hands will roam as well exploring your mr. happy. again windmill gogo off of walking street comes to mind.
beer bars:
these places are everywhere in pattaya, along soi diana, in lk metro along, beach road, along soi 7 and soi 8. these bar establishment have girls sitting inside the bar or on the outside where the customers are, all of these girls are available for bar fining and these places can be quite fun as well, bar fines and girl prices are generally much cheaper than gogo bars however because these places are outdoors there's no explicit floor show and once you buy a girl a drink you and her cannot be as free with your hands as in a gogo bar. these places also exist to separate you from your money and the girls will try to get you to buy them a drink or more before you bar fine them.
walking street:
walking street is about a mile or so long and just as the name implies it is a street where you walk, it begins where beach road ends and runs for about a mile. the best part of walking street is at the beginning where it meets beach road towards the other end of walking street it becomes much narrower and not as lively the other end is also more the russian tourist section. at the beginning of walking street you will find beer bars gogo bars and night clubs, you will also find freelancers along walking street as well, there are side streets that jut off of walking street where you will find more beer bars and gogo bars.
beach road:
just as the name implies this is the road that runs along the beach, you will find tourist here along the beach thai families enjoying the beach, and freelancers, only a few during the day but enough if you need one. at night the place is literally lined up with freelancers. the quality can be quite low but i have never failed to find a diamond in the ruff here, you will find women here that will match anything you find in a gogo bar but there numbers are few. the one thing that struck me about beach road is the number of rats running around both day and night, sometimes i think there were as many rats as there were people, they would hang out in groups of three or four and they had no fear of running between people.
lk metro:
this street runs from soi diana turns the corner and goes up to lk bukhow, here you will find gogo bars beer gardens and guest houses which also have girls available you will also find devils den here as well.
discos:
you will find discos along walking street where freelancers are available. many of the discos do not get going until late at night and run until the early morning. the girls are not as aggressive here and often they look like girls in any none p4p disco they will not approach you or give you the look, you will have to approach them.
soi six:
i love that place, soi six runs from beach road up to second street and is a street with short time bars one after the other on both sides of the street. all of the girls sit outside in front of their bar so you can walk up and down the street until you find the one you like and then take her up. the girls will often call out to you or even try to grab you as you walk by. once you choose a girl you take her inside and up to her room, many of the girls actually live there so the rooms are pretty good. there are some very attractive women available in my opinion and you will find women here who will rival anything you can find in the gogo bars.
massage parlors:
you will find these establishment rep001tered throughout pattaya some are just obvious working girl houses claiming to be massage parlors some look a little more legitimate with a glass window in the front and easy chairs with stools for massages. the girls all sit out front waiting for customers so you can simply walk by and pick the one you like. the obvious working girl house message parlors usually have a line of massage tables each on separated by curtains or just a line of mattresses on the floor separated by curtains. for the more legitimate ones you will have to pick the girl and then ask for a oily massage in the back. then once she starts the oily massage you come to a deal with her.
blow job bars:
i only visited one blow job bar while i was there, bliss lounge off of soi bukhow, the place reminded me a great deal of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] in bangkok, the girls sit out front you chose the one you want go inside pay the attendant go upstairs to one of the rooms get undressed sit back in the easy chair the girl gets on her knees and goes to work, price is 700 bhat. lick bar on soi six is another place where you can go for blow jobs but you can't be shy, you are basically in the bar separated from everyone else by only a few flimsy beads price is 800bhat for just a blow job in the bar.
thai women:
i found the women in pattaya to be quite attractive and very good at sex. thai girls love to fuck and they fuck really, really good. bbbj, daty and dfk were standard with every girl i had from no matter what venue. personally i thought the best looking women were in the discos, followed by the gogo bars and then the beer gardens. however that being said you can also find some freelancers along walking street that match anything you can find in either the discos or a gogo bar, there are women on soi six that will match anything you can find in the disco or gogo bars and you will even find a few freelancers along beach road that will do the same. there are also some diamonds to be had in the beer gardens as well.
prices:
many women in the disco will ask for 2000 bhat or more some will go for as little as 1000 depending upon the time of night and if she is attracted to you or not. i found gogo bar prices to be all over the board and often quite confusing. unlike in bangkok where all the bars seemed to have a standard in pattaya the prices can range, some were asking for 600 bar fine some were all the way up to 1500 bar fine, the bar fines seemed to change in many bars depending upon what time of night it was and often the bar fine was different for different girls, it was often confusing as the bar fine for a particular girl was different than another girl and then after a certain time they would change. generally i found the bar fines to be a little bit more on lk metro gogos than the walking street gogos. short time prices were anywhere from 1500 to 3000 depending upon the girl and the establishment even here however the prices would change depending upon what time of night it was. in general however when bar fines where high the girl was charging less and when bar fines were lower the girl was charging more.
beer gardens were much cheaper and they all seemed to have a standard set price no matter where you went. bar fine was 300 and short time was 1000 long time 1500. freelancers along walking street were asking for 1000 short time and beach road girls were asking for 500 to 700 depending upon how attractive the girl was, some were even quoting me 200. massage parlor girls were asking 200 or 300 bhat for massage and 1000 for sex. often you could tell them you don't want the massage just the sex for 1000. bliss lounge charged 700 for a blow job and a blow job only in the bar at lick bar was 800.
soi six prices were ethier 700 to 1000 to the girl and 300 for the room.
exchanging money:
everything works in thai bhat so you will have to exchange your money. i used the money exchangers that run along soi diana but there are many exchange booths all over pattaya and they will not be hard to find. all the ones i used in pattaya gave me good exchange rates some were a little better than others so i would simply walk around until i found one that gave me the best rate.
hotels:
there are a variety of hotels and guest houses all over pattaya many of the guest houses all have signs out front stating room for rent. finding a place to stay within your budget will not be a problem. one monger i met said he never books until he gets there, he just arrives and check around at the guest houses until he finds one he likes with the right location and at the right price. the guest house i stayed at was on lk metro called 3som bar and guest house, decent place good location great cheap as dirt price and it had great wifi. almost every guest house doubles as a beer bar and they all have girls available on premise.
language:
communication was never a problem, english has to be the second language in thailand every thai i encountered could speak english. every girl i had could speak decent to great english.
lady boys:
yes they are there unfortunately, there are a few lady boy gogos on walking street a lady boy beer garden on soi bukhaw and i noticed some of the beer gardens would have a few lady boys working in them as well. there are also lady boy freelancers along soi bukhaw, walking street and beach road. personally 90% of the time i could tell who was a lady boy and who was not and 90% of the time they will be honest with you when asked if they are a lady boy. they were not overly aggressive but i did find that there are a few who will lie through their teeth about being a lady boy even when they know you want a women.
final thoughts:
pattaya is probably the meca of mongering it is what all other places strive to be like. it is the standard that every other p4p monger location in the world should be judged by. it is literally a city of sex. sex is available everywhere. i found many of the thai women to be hot, attractive and sweet. i found that they love sex they love to fuck and they are very, very, very, good at fucking. prices are a little higher than i would of liked but hopefully that will change. before i went to thailand i was always told the women are better looking in bangkok than in pattaya but prices are cheaper in pattaya than in bangkok. from my experience and in my opinion on average the women were better looking in pattaya than in bangkok and with the exception of beach road and soi six prices were a little higher in pattaya than in bangkok, especially in the gogo bars.
chris
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1443534](snip) They are for sex. I only want and hour, two hours at most, short time these days (snip).[/QUOTE]Agreed. Went through the GF / Long Term Rental thing a lot on Ko Samui.
Now I can't relate to it at all when seeing such arrangements in those places.
[i]"Look at me with my massive roaring motorbike and long term bar fined hooker stuck on the back"[/i]
Little do onlookers know of all the mind game manipulation and conflicts back in the Bungalow.
Give me 30 minutes in a room with a nubile WG, or a naughty one hour massage. Does me fine now.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1443542]Especially when you are 2 to 3 times her age![/QUOTE]I would not initiate holding her hand but if she holds my hand I would not pull away.
[QUOTE=Coconut Cream; 1443584]Agreed. Went through the GF / Long Term Rental thing a lot on Ko Samui.
Now I can't relate to it at all when seeing such arrangements in those places.
[i]"Look at me with my massive roaring motorbike and long term bar fined hooker stuck on the back"[/i]
Little do onlookers know of all the mind game manipulation and conflicts back in the Bungalow.[/QUOTE]The subject makes for interesting stories, but it takes a lot of time to write and the one wonders if the forum is not even the right place to share them. But if you have, feel free to add the condensed version. My experience is not that bad at all, had a great time in the Bungalow, now it's over. All things are, eventually.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1442283].[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pute Nut;1442311].[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Skogis;1442321].[/QUOTE]Appreciate you're advices and one letter filled up in my notebook, will continue to do my homework reading the forum making sure the girls don't screw me instead of me screwing them;) will book a flight this week, nice prices Sweden. Thailand in Sep / Oct. 2 way tickets, only 550 USD, much more cheaper than 7.8 years ago.
[QUOTE=Gunga Din;1442442]Breezed into Pattaya last night---like a jungle cat smelling a kill nearby, the mamasan appeared on my left---the jungle cat inched closer to me, eyes narrowing, teeth extending. 'You send her back 3am, take her short time---The big Gunga head conferred rapidly with the small Gunga head (the one on my shoulders) , and someone using my vocal cords apparently said, 'OK'---Saddened, frustrated, but also a little relieved at the same time, I sent her back to the Windmill by taxi bike.[/QUOTE]More like this please! I'm delighted that you will be in Pattaya for two weeks. It will surely make for some great reports. I want to particularly commend you on posting about your failed exploits. We don't get enough of those around here.
Hey fellow Mongers B-) can someone share information about "Sabai dee massage" which is near big see. The girls, rates and all. Thanks!
I'm 20 and have been to Bangkok around 12 times with my mom dad. Because of shit happening at home I feel like running away and think Bangkok is a great option. I have more than 20, 00$ with me and am a great student with 90% in all my subjects. Can anyone tell me how can I apply for a long term or permanent visa and if its available. M sick and tired of my life here at home! Please help! Very serious!
Thanks
[QUOTE=NishNish; 1443919]Hey fellow Mongers B-) can someone share information about "Sabai dee massage" which is near big see. The girls, rates and all. Thanks!
I'm 20 and have been to Bangkok around 12 times with my mom dad. Because of shit happening at home I feel like running away and think Bangkok is a great option. I have more than 20, 00$ with me and am a great student with 90% in all my subjects. Can anyone tell me how can I apply for a long term or permanent visa and if its available. M sick and tired of my life here at home! Please help! Very serious!
Thanks[/QUOTE]I'm not your father but maybe this is what your parents should have said to you!
At your age. 20, 000? Nothing personal and although you are a good student no one gave you the other 10% which is about life.
Take 5, 000 out of the 20, 000 put 15, 000 in a safe place so you have it when you leave.
Use the 5, 000 and get your rocks off at Sabai Dee or whatever and within your stay get it all out of your system? You are only 20 years old and most likely a spoil brat and a cage tiger with raging hormones. You are lucky your parents have carry you this far and I can tell you once your 20, 000 runs out you will run back to your parents and tell them you will never do it again and thereafter get a swell head and disrespect them again!
Now as for the 15, 000 go home invest it into a Mutual Fund portifolio for the long term so you will have something down the road because at this rate once your parents cut you off you will need it.
Get your rocks off and then go home and grow up! You are young full of cum and think you know everything without your parents I seriously doubt you can buy tissue to wipe your ass maybe that is why you chose Thailand since you can use the hose? You don't need to thank me now but you will later because you need a reality check! This might seem harsh but if you play your cards right you can have it all and more down the road instead you are headed down a road that goes no where!
LBM
[QUOTE=NishNish;1443919](snip) M sick and tired of my life here at home! Please help! Very serious! (snip)[/QUOTE]Going by your past reports, it seems you've dabbled already in terms of mongering in India and Thailand, NishNish. Is your family South Asian by any chance? What are the issues / pressures going on at home? (if not too revealing to put up on the forum). Practical issues like future job prospects? The local economy? Cultural / Religious expectations in the family of how you should proceed from here in your life? Or very personal things like depression / loneliness? I ask because depending on what it is that is primarily fuelling the wish to flee, the feedback would need to be different (if you sought general comments beyond practical information, that is).
The saying is,"Young, dumb, and full of cum."
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1444049]The saying is,"Young, dumb, and full of cum."[/QUOTE]And carrying too much cash.
this is a good trip report.
you got a few young and good-looking thai girls in the pics. any girls allowed bare back sex?
hope you will do a similar report for bangkok.
[quote=chris long; 1443577]pattaya is a beach town along the cost of thailand it's about an hour and a half to two hour drive south of bangkok. pattaya is nana plaza on steroids.
pattaya:
pattaya is a city of sex there really is no other way to describe it, everything about pattaya is geared towards sex, it is an entire city built around sex. the monger area is quite large but walkable. the monger area encompassed far more than i traveled but for me i ranged from soi 6 to walking street and from soi buakhao to beach road with soi diana soi 7 and 8 and lk metro and second street in between. getting around in pattaya is quite easy, i personally walked everywhere when i was by myself bu.
gogo bars:
gogo bars are rep001tered throughout pattaya but mainly concentrated on walking street and the side streets that jut off of walking street and along lk metro. personally i found the gogos on lk metro to be a litte higher in price than the ones on walking street. but quality in my opinion is the same. there are a few on walking street that catered more to the asian mongers and in these gogos the girls did not pay much attention to me or my wing man who was also caucasian. there are, however, a numb.
chris[/quote]
[QUOTE=NishNish; 1443919]Hey fellow Mongers B-) can someone share information about "Sabai dee massage" which is near big see. The girls, rates and all. Thanks!
I'm 20 and have been to Bangkok around 12 times with my mom dad. Because of shit happening at home I feel like running away and think Bangkok is a great option. I have more than 20, 00$ with me and am a great student with 90% in all my subjects. Can anyone tell me how can I apply for a long term or permanent visa and if its available. M sick and tired of my life here at home! Please help! Very serious!
Thanks[/QUOTE]You've all been trolled. His first post a few months ago says he just turned 18 and now he's 20. Also promoted one massage parlor 90% of his posts which is very normal for your average 18 or 20 year old. Some odd ulterior motive here.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1444059]This is a good trip report.You got a few young and good-looking Thai girls in the pics. Any girls allowed bare back sex? Hope you will do a similar report for Bangkok.[/QUOTE]He has done it already. I linked it in the RoD for the good memory of the newbies when they RTFF.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1440022&viewfull=1#post1440022[/url]
soi six was quiet yesterday, sunday, and i had made it almost to beach road before a tiny little thing grabbed my arm and, in the cutest australian accent, asked me to come buy her a drink. black dress, good english, and (as my hand strategically squeezed her waist and belly discovered) no obvious sign of baby history. ok, good enough for one drink. once inside the bar i was brought my beer and then my new friend promptly straddled me, settling in like she was right at home. the ten-minute pre-bonking interview revealed she had spent three years in aussie land, as the girlfriend (or mistress) of a guy who had found her in a bar, and decided to take her back home. he had since returned her to thailand, much to her dismay, and so here she was, pulling in falangs on soi six with her excellent linguistic charms and slim figure. i liked her, so up we went to the usual dismal soi six digs, albeit with a welcome bonus of an en suite shower.
we cleaned up, and then she served me the appetizer: a vigorous blow job, which also had the unfortunate side-effect of removing some skin from my dick via her back teeth. she should have had her teeth done while she was in australia, i thought. so, i pulled her up to check out the main dish. her pussy was delightfully shaved, but once my foreplaying fingers went inside it was like dr who's tardis: small on the outside but huge on the inside. i'm no gynecologist, but i do play one on tv. something obviously happened here a while ago, and, with a condom on, i suspected no friction was going to occur between pussy wall and my sheathed dick.
even so, we gave it a shot, and the expected result was, well, to be expected. limpness. which was a shame, because my planned dessert for this meal was to be her tight little ass, which the pre-bonking interview had indicated was a speciality of the house. now, if i was in a restaurant i would have sent this pussy back, and ordered another one. oh, well.
to save her cute little thai face i took the full blame, stressing that my lack of 'power' was because i was tired, and not because her vagina could easily house a small isaan family of four. she returned to her skin-scraping smoke (blow job) , but for only for a few minutes, before i finally said, 'i'm happy, we're done, kap'. i sniff-kissed her little brown forehead, so as to show her that, even though i had no hard dick, i also had no hard feelings about it. there followed the usual 'are you happy? did i do a good job? why you not come? ' audio customer service survey, to which i gave the acceptable answers of 'yes i am happy / yes, you did great / no, i did not come because i could not feel your - i mean - because i have no power' answers.
i left her with regretful pat on that little ass, and a lie that i would return, as well as with a small tip for a spirited effort. she was a nice girl, and would have been perfect for me if her throat had been as big as her pussy, and her pussy as tiny as her mouth. luckily, this is a town with a million restaurants, so it was time to move on.
I have earned the 20,000$ mysself. Am a graduate in commerce and am earning 5,000$ per month! Am not being driven by my hormones. I chose Thailand because I know this place really well! And anyways getting a pay raise to 6,000 and basically all goes into my saving so I'm planning to leave by December by that time I'll easily have around 50,000$ so I guess now you all can help? I am not a dumb fuck or a horny freak. Now help.
[QUOTE=Gunga Din;1444098]Her pussy was delightfully shaved, but once my foreplaying fingers went inside it was like Dr Who's Tardis: small on the outside but huge on the inside. --- I finally said, 'I'm happy, we're done, Kap'. I sniff-kissed her little brown forehead, so as to show her that, even though I had no hard dick, I also had no hard feelings about it. ---Luckily, this is a town with a million restaurants, so it was time to move on.[/QUOTE]Ah GD, you have managed to capture the true essence of so many monger encounters in LOS. But I wonder, this is your second strike out. Have you had any good sex since arriving? But no matter, keep 'them coming. I live vicariously through your reports, eagerly counting the days to my return.
[QUOTE=Kumbu;1444118]Ah GD, you have managed to capture the true essence of so many monger encounters in LOS. But I wonder, this is your second strike out. Have you had any good sex since arriving? But no matter, keep 'them coming. I live vicariously through your reports, eagerly counting the days to my return.[/QUOTE]Yes, I do OK in Pattaya, Kumbu, but as you can probably tell from my writing style I'm more into the fun of the Pattaya encounter than just logging in for bragging rights. It seems to me that if you can't get good sex in Pattaya then something is seriously up with your life. Personally, though, I enjoy learning from "reality encounter" FRs than I do from "body count" FRs, so that's what I usually generate.
However, to bring the universe back into balance I will soon post some Gunga-Got-Laid FRs in addition to my bemused strike-out moments.
Cheers,
- Gunga
[QUOTE=Gunga Din;1444098]Soi Six was quiet yesterday, Sunday, <snip>[/QUOTE]Funny and sensibly humane, almost a revelation."Soi Six on a wet Sunday afternoon" moved our hearts.
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[QUOTE=NishNish; 1443919]Hey fellow Mongers B-) can someone share information about "Sabai dee massage" which is near big see. The girls, rates and all. Thanks!
I'm 20 and have been to Bangkok around 12 times with my mom dad. Because of shit happening at home I feel like running away and think Bangkok is a great option. I have more than 20, 00$ with me and am a great student with 90% in all my subjects. Can anyone tell me how can I apply for a long term or permanent visa and if its available. M sick and tired of my life here at home! Please help! Very serious!
Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi there,
I've only been once in Patong, but concerning the massage parlours, there are thousands of them, same-same.
Girls in their thirties, one and Another younger though, one hour oil massage should not be more than 300. 350 Baht, tip a couple of hundred Baht if you want HE. Happy Ending.
But doesn't it bother you you will most likely encounter Girls beeing older than yourself, it did for me in you're age, though I wish I had did it anyway, compared to now in my thirties I was literally speaking a Stud in you're age, wanted to screw my girlfriend at least 2 times a day, shot my loads 2. 3 meters right up the walls dripping down so she had to wipe them afterwards : p.
I'm not saying I need Viagra those Days, but crap, screw you're Brains out while you can dude.
Try it out a couple of months with a Tourist visa from the Thai Embassy, Think you can stay up to like half a year or so on that if you apply for it, longer time than that will be hard, Thailand ain't no immigration country unless you are very qualified with a high education.
[QUOTE=NishNish;1444109]I have earned the 20,000$ mysself. Am a graduate in commerce and am earning 5,000$ per month! Am not being driven by my hormones. I chose Thailand because I know this place really well! And anyways getting a pay raise to 6,000 and basically all goes into my saving so I'm planning to leave by December by that time I'll easily have around 50,000$ so I guess now you all can help? I am not a dumb fuck or a horny freak. Now help.[/QUOTE]I have not heard of the commerce degree before outside of the commonweath, but the UK no longer offers commerce degree. In the US. 5000$ would be written as $5000.
1. A person who knows Thailand well should be giving advice.
2. You are very lucky. If I were to make $6000 a month, taxes, insurance, and retirement would eat more than half. Then cost of living, and expenditures would leave me no more than $1000. It's amazing how you can save 100% of your income, living on nothing, so you can splurge in Thailand.
[QUOTE=NishNish;1443919]Hey fellow Mongers B-) can someone share information about "Sabai dee massage" which is near big see. The girls, rates and all. Thanks![/QUOTE]Why limit yourself to Sabai Dee? Although it has the most girls, the Honey's have some pretty girls and the girls at places like Dream Teen and Devil's Den will probably give you better sex. Here is the info from my recent diary (I also posted photos of the girls in the Photo Gallery) :
Sabai Dee: 2nd Road near Big C. Girls split in to two price brackets. 2000 and 2400 baht. L-shaped fishbowl, although perhaps 'fishbowl' is stretching it since there is no glass. It was 9pm when I walked in and there were 50 girls. The talent was mixed but I saw four strong contenders. Took Annie. 25, who was a pretty girl and gave a really great session although unusually didn't kiss ("only kiss boyfriend") , the only girl who didn't kiss on my trip. Apart from that, a wild performer (got to love a girl who scratches you with her fingernails).
Honey 1: located on Soi 11 off 2nd Road (nearly opposite Mike's Shopping Mall). Again the girls are split in to two prices, this time 2000 and 2500 baht. It was 4. 30pm when I visited and there were 25 girls, talent levels similar to Sabai Dee (although pleasingly there seemed to be more big boobs on display here which is never a bad thing in soapies). Went with Mo. 28, a pale-skinned beauty who gave me the kind of girlfriend experience I look for. Told me she freelanced in Marine Disco when her shift finished.
Honey 2: a few blocks from Sabai Dee on 2nd Road. Girls priced at 1800 and 2200 baht. I visited at 6pm and there were 35 girls (there were 50 girls when I left later). Despite the prices being the cheapest I visited in Pattaya, the quality of the girls was the highest in my opinion. Opted for a session with Nok. 25, dark-skinned, looked younger, great curves, huge smile and an enthusiastic performer.
Dream Teen: located on Soi 21, off Soi Buakhao. Unlike the three soapy massage parlours listed above, this is more of genuine massage place where you get extras afterwards. At 5.20pm there were 10 girls. Talent was average and it was abundantly clear that these were not teens as the name suggested. You can have different types of massage, I had an oil massage for 400 baht. It wasn't a token effort, it was really good. The extras were hand-job 500, blow-job or body-to-body 1000 or 'all three plus boom-boom' 1500 baht. I chose a very pretty girl called New. 26, who provided me with some of the best sex of my trip.
Devil's Den: Soi LK Metro, off Soi Diana. The place to go for threesomes. 3600 baht for two hours, two pops. Just 10 girls at 6pm but there seem to be more from 8 onwards. Girls generally older than places listed above but some pretty ones and far more likely to get porn experience (also girls can be pre-booked from website). Unlike Eden's in Bangkok, all girls 'work well with each other'. I chose Luck (28) and Holly (33).
Hope that was helpful. I would be interested if anyone can add to that list as I may return to Pattaya soon.
i dropped in to the windmill, still trying to find my favorite girl from my previous visit, but to no avail. maybe she is hiding out with edward snowden in a russian airport transit lounge, because she has not been spotted for days. in the meantime her loyal friends, never ones to let a falang go to waste, are desperately trying to hook me up with a new girl, who i am bouncing on my knee for as long as two ladies drinks last. the tedium of ass-bouncing and boob-groping is suddenly broken when i strike up a conversation with a gent on my left, who complains wryly that watching my antics is making him seasick. i helpfully suggest he fix his gaze on one spot, perhaps my girl's left nipple, which should settle down his stomach. we start a conversation comparing notes about living in thailand, and finally zeroing in on that ever-fascinating topic: what makes a thai lady tick. i like this guy a lot.
there's a draining sound in the room, and i realize that it's coming from my wallet. i'm in for four ladies drinks, my knees are now bruised from bouncing the cute but fat-assed windmill girl around on my lap, and the only real stimulation i'm getting is intellectually from my new australian friend's stories. i need to leave soon. he suggests we go to the new sister bar of the windmill, a go-go bar on walking st. as we left i felt a shudder, and i knew i was suddenly close to a source of pure evil. glancing down to the steps on my right i spotted the windmill mamasan, glaring at me. this was the same gargoyle that denied me my bar fine refund from a few days ago. the same one that sprang fully-formed from the side of a demon forty years ago. ok, you get the picture. i don't like her, and at this point the feeling is satisfyingly mutual.
my new wingman and i literally stumble into sugar baby go go, a familiar haunt to him but a revelation to me. we shake hands with the owner, sit, and my friend takes on the appearance of flypaper, but with twenty-year old dancers stuck on him instead of flies. he proceeds to tease them all mercilessly, and they take it with great humor, yelling as they swat his hand away from groping their tits. i somehow manage to pluck one of them off him, and relocate her to my side of the bench. she is twenty, cute as a button, and proudly displays to me her finest attribute: a naturally-bald pussy, no shaving required. buddha clearly loves this girl.
the gent and i talk more, promising to meet up later in the week. meanwhile next to me i can feel a familiar warmth oozing into my thigh, as bald-pussy girl wraps herself around me, and i'm getting horny. 'you buy me dink? ', she asks smilingly, revealing a set of braces that make her twenty-year old face look more like eighteen. braces make me nervous, but i'm trying overcome my phobia by still taking on the occasional grill girl, and to not wince as she heads south to go for a smoke. but in her favor this girl has some amazing nipples, a cheer-leader body, and a sunny disposition.
it's 11 pm, which means the barfine is still an eye-watering 1000 tbh, but if i wait until midnight it will drop to a more realistic 700. i don't want to wait. while the quality of the girls can't match sensations, which runs the same barfine pricing, you definitely can't fault the youthful quality girls working at this go go. i bite the bullet and call for my check bin, and bald-pussy girl runs off to get her street clothes. when she returns, i ask her the question of the week: are you sure you know your birthday, the one on your i'd? she nods.
back at my hotel room, and away from the go-go girl natural habitat of dimmed lights and eye candy sensory overload, she now looks a little too young and way too inexperienced. she happily devours thai tv as i shower, and then almost runs past me into the shower as i emerge out of it, pausing only to say, 'i go 6 o'clock, is ok? '. that's a little early, but right then i didn't care too much. my pause, and then assent to her request, awarded me a western-style and noisy kiss to my cheek.
once cleaned up and in my bed she proudly opened up her bathrobe, and once again i was treated to the sight of her amazing naked body, complete with a tiny follicly-impaired mound, the gateway to the cutest little pussy you could ever imagine. i toyed with her teenager-type nipples before heading south to get a closer look at this marvel of isaan genetic engineering. after some foreplay to get her motor up and running, i invite her to blow me, and she clumsily obliges. she's terrible at it, and i am beginning to suspect this girl is fresh off last week's banana boat from isaan. this kind of blow job ignorance reminds me of angeles city in my philippine trips of yesteryear, and requires me to gently move into a mentoring mode. there, use your hand like this. and your mouth like this. i demonstrate a novice-level sucking motion on her thumb, and she then applies it to my dick. she's a fast learner. she throws in some ball massage, without prompting, and now we have a passable blow job going on.
i enter her slowly, and spend extra time on her clit to try and increase her wetness. she's a little like a lawn-mower i had back in the us, where the damn thing took forever to pull-start, but once the engine got going, it didn't quit until the job was done. bald-pussy girl eased into things slowly, as we ran through the usual position changes. at one point i pulled out of her, and she bolted upwards into a picture-perfect doggy-style position, her pert little ass and tight pussy just hanging there, waiting for me to mount her. unexpected. and awesome.
she also had a signature move i'm never seen before, even on a more experienced girl. she would reach round, when in doggy, and peel back one ass cheek, to thoughtfully allow me easier access to her pussy. it was a very sexy move, and one i'm going to ask to be installed as a standard feature into the next generation of isaan girls coming to pattaya in 2014.
seconds after i came in a shower of glory all over her taut brown belly she shot out of bed to clean me off her. we fell asleep thirty minutes later, and when i awoke at 4 am she was clearly wide awake. she turned her back to me, and i reached under her leg to regain access to heaven's gate. this second time around she got wet faster, and now added a new feature: vocal encouragement. i'm not a fan of working girl fake noises during sex, as both you and the girl know she is only doing it for effect. but, in the end, it's still better than her lying there silently. no doubt my hotel room neighbor felt differently.
by five am i was done, and very happy with this girl. with a little more experience on her end, she could easily have made me pop twice in one night, a rare complement to a new girl in town, especially one that doesn't know one end of a blowjob from the other.
So I finally arrived at Pattaya actually my first Asian trip but I've mongered all over the world. Note that I am good looking early 30's so I usually get along great wilh all girls.
So I have 7 days in Pattaya with a fellow monger who has been here 3 times his last trip two years ago. All I could say is the girls we mostly older 27 to late 30's all hardcore worn put streach marks garbage like this I could get in the states for free! So we finally found a few young girls and I mean 21 to 24 no kids all firm and they were pissed because they were getting bar fined every night and had no rest. To top off out trip on Soi 6 my friend got his phone stolen out of his pocket in the room with the girl and she tries to deny it saying anybody could of came in? Seriously guys even my friend said two years ago so many hot girls late teens early 20's there all gone I'm assuming Bangkok because I stayed two nights there did see beautiful girls asking 3 to 4 thousand baht. We even ran into a girl he met 2 years ago paid 1500 all night and she was just visiting and she said she works Bangkok 3k night no kids around 25 still hot there wiseing up in Pattaya so I will never return to that stinkhole.
P. S. I loved Angeles city 18 to 23 and I even had a virgin for free (find that in Thailand) LOL good luck guys.
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1444061]You've all been trolled. His first post a few months ago says he just turned 18 and now he's 20. Also promoted one massage parlor 90% of his posts which is very normal for your average 18 or 20 year old. Some odd ulterior motive here.[/QUOTE]Great another F-king Harold on the board?
I agree something smells, he clarifies that he is now 20 years old, a graduate of com? he is that smart and that good to get a great paying job at 20 years of age but know Bangkok so well but need to ask where to find a soapie? I guess Mr. E is right " young dumb and full of cum"
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I am from India. We do have Bachelor of Business Administration In India. What will I get by lying people? Yea a few months ago I did post I was "18" it was a mistype and I meant 19. My birthday is in June so I turned 20 B-) Yes I do earn $5,000 a month and all is saved because in India we all live with our parents, like everyone. We don't move out, that's the tradition, Joint Family, like in Japan so I don't incur expenses on food, shelter, clothing etc. I am working for flipkart as a marketing assistant for eastern zone hence the big package. So here it is, I didn't need to clarify but young and full of rage to prove myself you see. \
And yes as I told I have been to Bangkok "with my parents" so it was a family trip, never been here alone so I don't have nay idea about the mongering scene except for walk in MP's! Iv nothing to clarify, I just want genuine opinions and help. Thank you people.
Call me dumb, stupid whatever, it really doesn't matter. Am working my ass off to earn so I can happily have an enjoyable life ahead, for your info I did the research myself an found if a company based in Thailand employs me I can be in Thailand for as many years as I like, so already applied to many MNC's.
Cheers
The so called "DUMBFUCK"
[QUOTE=BlygdTuktaren; 1444184]Hi there. I've only been once in Patong, but concerning the massage parlours, there are thousands of them, same-same.
Girls in their thirties, one and Another younger though, one hour oil massage should not be more than 300. 350 Baht, tip a couple of hundred Baht if you want HE. Happy Ending.
But doesn't it bother you you will most likely encounter Girls beeing older than yourself, it did for me in you're age, though I wish I had did it anyway, compared to now in my thirties I was literally speaking a Stud in you're age, wanted to screw my girlfriend at least 2 times a day, shot my loads 2. 3 meters right up the walls dripping down so she had to wipe them afterwards...[/QUOTE]Heya,
Thanks for the help, the prob is in India, girls are fucking conservative! Like no sex before marriage and shit! :-x spiritual and shit, max to max most do is 69 and that too after months of serious dating! And mongering in India is shit! Pattaya and Bangkok <3 and I have a thing for asian girls! So!
Thanks mate
[QUOTE=NishNish;1444109]I have earned the 20,000$ mysself. Am a graduate in commerce and am earning 5,000$ per month! Am not being driven by my hormones. I chose Thailand because I know this place really well! And anyways getting a pay raise to 6,000 and basically all goes into my saving so I'm planning to leave by December by that time I'll easily have around 50,000$ so I guess now you all can help? I am not a dumb fuck or a horny freak. Now help.[/QUOTE]Here is my honest advice. You are a commerce graduate so do the math its pretty simple. Look at what rent cost. Decide what kind of lifestyle you expect to lead and do a budget.
Some guys get by on next to nothing by being cheap charlies and accepting to live in the most basic accommodations. Others do not. How long you can make 50.000$ last is individual.
You could have written that you had 1 million dollars saved and still people would not be able to answer your question.
Just a side question. You say you make 6K per month (after your raise) and are easily able to go from 20K in savings to 50K in savings in 5 months (6 times 5 is 30, plus 20 is 50). Is your tax rate 0 pct? Do you not have any spending at all of your hard earned money?
[quote=nishnish; 1444695]heya. thanks for the help, the prob is in india, girls are fucking conservative! like no sex before marriage and shit! :-x spiritual and shit, max to max most do is 69 and that too after months of serious dating! and mongering in india is shit! pattaya and bangkok <3 and i have a thing for asian girls! so!
thanks mate[/quote]in my city in america. philadelphia. 1st and 2nd generation indian girls were the easiest to fuck for an educated white guy. they sucked dick and took it up the ass fairly quickly as well. all one had to due was hang out at the bars near the top universities. even more so in the washington d. c. area. looking forward to see if this holds true when i visit your homeland.
also i am not prejudice against indians but you might want to know every thai girl i've spoken to really disliked indians and you are more likely to see a thai girl with a martian then an indian as a couple, so you should have a lot of rupee at your disposal.
Nish, have you considered Indonesia?
(writing this in the Thailand forum may be a bit cheeky, but hey).
[QUOTE=NeverGetsOld;1444819]In my city in America. Philadelphia. 1st and 2nd generation Indian girls were the easiest to fuck for an educated white guy. They sucked dick and took it up the ass fairly quickly as well. All one had to due was hang out at the bars near the top universities. Even more so in the Washington D. C. Area. Looking forward to see if this holds true when I visit your homeland.[/QUOTE]Indian women love caucasian men. However, my experience in India is that it is very difficult to score a freebie as interracial relationships are frowned upon in India. Family members object and people in general give you hostile looks. However, outside of India where there are no such constraints it is very easy to hook up with an Indian babe, especially in North America and Europe.
[QUOTE=NishNish; 1444692]I am from India. We do have Bachelor of Business Administration In India. What will I get by lying people? Yea a few months ago I did post I was "18" it was a mistype and I meant 19. My birthday is in June so I turned 20 B-) Yes I do earn $5, 000 a month and all is saved because in India we all live with our parents, like everyone. We don't move out, that's the tradition, Joint Family, like in Japan so I don't incur expenses on food, shelter, clothing etc. I am working for flipkart as a marketing assistant for eastern zone hence the big package. So here it is, I didn't need to clarify but young and full of rage to prove myself you see. \
And yes as I told I have been to Bangkok "with my parents" so it was a family trip, never been here alone so I don't have nay idea about the mongering scene except for walk in MP's! Iv nothing to clarify, I just want genuine opinions and help. Thank you people.
Call me dumb, stupid whatever, it really doesn't matter. Am working my ass off to earn so I can happily have an enjoyable life ahead, for your info I did the research myself an found if a company based in Thailand employs me I can be in Thailand for as many years as I like, so already applied to many MNC's.
Cheers
The so called "DUMBFUCK"[/QUOTE]So young and full of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and vinegar. Hold off on the anger sunshine, you're too young to have had any frustrations in life.
If you can only express your anger get off this board and go somewhere else. Get to Thailand and go drink, party, play.
You will for sure get ripped off endless times and eventually you will become a little street smart and street wise. Sitting here kind of bragging about your earnings isn't going to win you many friends. Many of us here earn considerably more than you, but in my 3200 posts I've never once mentioned my income. Didn't have any need to.
Get to Thailand, enjoy life, earn some stripes and enjoy.
At the end of the day, theres a lot who talk and a lot who do. Put yourself in the second but not the first category.
Lose the hostility. It may make you feel better but theres a lot of guys with great info here if you know how to talk properly.
If you don't, then you won't get access to it. Got it, sunshine. ?
[QUOTE=RomeoJoe; 1444457]So I finally arrived at Pattaya actually my first Asian trip but I've mongered all over the world. Note that I am good looking early 30's so I usually get along great wilh all girls.
So I have 7 days in Pattaya with a fellow monger who has been here 3 times his last trip two years ago. All I could say is the girls we mostly older 27 to late 30's all hardcore worn put streach marks garbage like this I could get in the states for free! So we finally found a few young girls and I mean 21 to 24 no kids all firm and they were pissed because they were getting bar fined every night and had no rest. To top off out trip on Soi 6 my friend got his phone stolen out of his pocket in the room with the girl and she tries to deny it saying anybody could of came in? Seriously guys even my friend said two years ago so many hot girls late teens early 20's there all gone I'm assuming Bangkok because I stayed two nights there did see beautiful girls asking 3 to 4 thousand baht...[/QUOTE]There seem to be many negative reports about Pattaya lately. Is it really that bad? Still worth visiting?
At this rate his future is pretty much determine being from India especially the way he thinks?
His parents most likely has it predetermine as to who he is to marry? Basic sex or no sex and stunk in India for life? That would worry any of us and he at least understands why he got to get out of the house?
Get a job outside of India and get your freedom boy? Otherwise you be visiting staying at the Marine Hotel and walking up and down Beach road holding hands with you India buddies trying to negotiate a score. Or you could be hiding under a bed ripping off fellow mongers when they take off their clothes and throw it on the floor. LOL.
Until you get a job outside of India I can understand why you hate your life?
I usually don't judge people. But could hold back this time.
This is a forum for sharing experiences, and not sharing your sorrows of life or your bank balance.
However big your bank balance would be, you may end up in bed with the same girl who slept with a man earning half as yours. Its about the attitude and not about how much your wallet weighs.
I was in Phuket last week. Read my posts. I ended up having a time of my life, irrespective of what I earn in life. I scored a girl each nite (2 on one night) and I had another 4-5 wanting to come home with me, rather eager to come with me. I didn't show them my wallet. I was just nice to them. They would have charged me the same. Thats what they work for. But its the attitude and service that differs.
So stop cribbing. Book your tickets and take a holiday, and after that get back to your job and home.
Another piece of advice. You are way too young and may easily fall in love for a girl who holds your hand or kisses you passionately. Don't let your guard down. Remember who they are, and who you are.
[QUOTE=Monopoly;1445192]There seem to be many negative reports about Pattaya lately. Is it really that bad? Still worth visiting?[/QUOTE]Pattaya is always worth the visit, in my estimation, but it definitely goes through its shifts and changes. Right now it is low season, the weather sucks, Beach road is torn to shreds with the renovation project, and there is general sense of local people needing more money than they are getting from the pockets of the visiting Farang. Also, I'm seeing the cycle of change happening with some of the regular places I visit, in that some girls are moving on to other things (read: lesser-paying jobs) , and being replaced by new, fresher, and skinnier girls. The Thai lady you paid 2, 500 TBH for short time from that fancy Go Go can now be found asking for 1000 or less, now she is working at a Beer Bar. Same pussy, but in a more jaded girl. Case in point, last night. In returning along Beach Road I bumped into two girls that I had, last year, taken out of a Go Go for a three way, at a total cost of 5, 000 THB + lady drinks. Last night, on Coconut Bar at 11 pm on a Friday night, they both agreed to back with me for 1000 THB apiece, overnight. Such is the Circle Of Life, here in Pattaya.
There are still beautiful girls here, but you have to look around. There are also many who have done the Pattaya-Isaan back-and-forth journey several times, and are deeply disappointed they have not yet lined up one or two sponsors, or are just plain bored with the whole P4P scene. You can understand why, when fresh stock pours in annually from Isaan: young and hot girls who get all the attention, and leaving just scraps for their seasoned older sisters and cousins. Additionally, I suspect the world economic situation is affecting the overall flow of THB into Pattaya, with people watching their budget more closely.
I'm now thinking about heading over to explore some other places, and reduce time spent in Pattaya. But still, if convenience is what you want, and hunting is your game, Pattaya is still #2 on the P4P scene. Now, if only I can find the place that is #1, I'll be off there. I suspect that Bangkok may be that place, but be prepared to pay much, much more than right here.
- Gunga
[QUOTE=Gunga Din; 1445528]Pattaya is always worth the visit, in my estimation, but it definitely goes through its shifts and changes. Right now it is low season, the weather sucks, Beach road is torn to shreds with the renovation project, and there is general sense of local people needing more money than they are getting from the pockets of the visiting Farang. Also, I'm seeing the cycle of change happening with some of the regular places I visit, in that some girls are moving on to other things (read: lesser-paying jobs) , and being replaced by new, fresher, and skinnier girls. The Thai lady you paid 2, 500 TBH for short time from that fancy Go Go can now be found asking for 1000 or less, now she is working at a Beer Bar. Same pussy, but in a more jaded girl. Case in point, last night. In returning along Beach Road I bumped into two girls that I had, last year, taken out of a Go Go for a three way, at a total cost of 5, 000 THB + lady drinks. Last night, on Coconut Bar at 11 pm on a Saturday night..[/QUOTE]I can say Bangkok is number 1. And yes it does cost more. Due to the fact there are actually hot girls all over the darn place.
There are many agogo girls who would do themselves justice by stepping off the agogo stage and going to work at the nearest beer garden or open air type bar.
The sponsor thing got to be overrated. We only hear about the few who can and not about the 1000s who cannot.
[QUOTE=Monopoly;1445192]There seem to be many negative reports about Pattaya lately. Is it really that bad? Still worth visiting?[/QUOTE]That report was full of negativity and brash - "I'm young and handsome", however when going to the physical quality of women is mostly correct, there few lookers and be prepared to have competition for them, plus you may get poor attitude and service in any case.
Still better here than "home".
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1445691]That report was full of negativity and brash. "I'm young and handsome", however when going to the physical quality of women is mostly correct, there few lookers and be prepared to have competition for them, plus you may get poor attitude and service in any case.
Still better here than "home".[/QUOTE]Stop with all this there are few good lookers in Pattaya. You guys make a certain poster who has never been there look good!
[QUOTE=Gunga Din;1442442]The hotel desk clerk gave her the usual Thai interrogation all girls get, as we all negotiate the border checkpoint between the road and my bed. 'Name? ', he asked her, in Thai. He paused, comparing her stuttered response with the I'd. 'What is your birthday? ' he asked, again in Thai, staring intently at her I'd.[/QUOTE]What interrogation? I've never stayed in a hotel where they asked the girl [i]any[/i] questions whatsoever, and in many of hotels they don't even ask to see or keep the ID card. I admit I only stay at hotels in the 500-1000 baht range.
Why didn't you simply take your girl to a short-time hotel? That's the recommended practice anyway, for safety.
[QUOTE=Streetwalker7;1445535]I can say Bangkok is number 1. And yes it does cost more. Due to the fact there are actually hot girls all over the darn place.[/QUOTE]Where are these hot girls? I don't usually do much mongering in Bangkok, although I'm occasionally there on business for a couple of days and usually stay in Nana and go have a look at Patpong.
I never see 'hot girls' anywhere, and the quality I see doesn't really look much different from Pattaya (that is, equally poor in both cases)
[QUOTE=Streetwalker7; 1445535]I can say Bangkok is number 1. And yes it does cost more. Due to the fact there are actually hot girls all over the darn place.
There are many agogo girls who would do themselves justice by stepping off the agogo stage and going to work at the nearest beer garden or open air type bar.
The sponsor thing got to be overrated. We only hear about the few who can and not about the 1000s who cannot.[/QUOTE]A Harold444 by any other name is still a Harold444. You can always tell by the same old tired rant.
As far as the sponsor topic goes I know a woman in Pattaya with a t-shirt shop who is the spitting image of Olive Oil's 50 year old sister. Her number might be a 3. In the 10 years that I've known her she has had at least 5 sponsors and one married her for a few years before he woke up. Think about it. She's old, far from pretty, does not even work bar but is very much in the game. So what do you suppose the lovelies, even the 6's and 7's can pull off?
[QUOTE=Gunga Din;1445528](snip) Right now it is low season, the weather sucks(snip)[/QUOTE]Ain't that true. Being the first time I've been here in July after several visits to the country over the years, how dissapointing with all these thickly overcast skies that hang there for days on end (until the rain comes and hammers everything) that remind me more of a winter in Europe if it wasn't for the warmth. Comparing to April, May, June, August, September, November and December, July (this year at least) only seems to be handing out the occasional hour or two of of sunshine every few 'days' (apart from yesterday in Bangkok, which was a surprise 'gleamer' day). Not a month I'd recommend to anyone (weather wise) , at least based on July so far.
Returned after a couple of weeks LOS time.
Few updates if you already not known.
Walking Street.
Two new GoGos (opened in last 4 to 6 months I was told)
Sensations. Baccara style. Nothing special. 1500 BF with 3000 LT and 2000 ST.
SugarBaby. Good line up. Fairly young, warm crowd. 1500 BF with 3000 LT and 2000 ST.
Alcatraz was as usual with good pole dancer.
What's up. Stand up to it name of pure fun. As always, having fun at the bar than pressure to bar fine.
Angle Witch. Shows are good as before. They have a amazon like thai girl who is their best dancer. She is new I think as I haven't seen her last year.
XZone. As always little extreme but very good waitresses and take care of you very much.
BabyDoll. Looks like more of Ladyboy club at least for me. Not much luck.
Baccara. Tried. But still not my cup of tea still.
Not sure if I missed any other good place. If so, please advice. Heading back again in Sept 1st week.
LK Metro area.
Campaign . Boring.
Devils Den. Biggest disappointment of this trip. I would say more of surprise as excitement is not there with girls.
Blizz. OK but can't replace lollipop. Need to find a good BJ place. I would like to get some advice on this area.
LK Renaissance is as good as usual GF hotel.
[QUOTE=Opebo; 1445800]Where are these hot girls? I don't usually do much mongering in Bangkok, although I'm occasionally there on business for a couple of days and usually stay in Nana and go have a look at Patpong.
I never see 'hot girls' anywhere, and the quality I see doesn't really look much different from Pattaya (that is, equally poor in both cases) [/QUOTE]What's a "hot girl"? See anything here you like:
[url]http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=girls&qpvt=girls&FORM=IGRE#a[/url]
Earlier this year in Asia, BTW, I did perhaps the most smoking hot girl I've ever seen in my life. That includes tens of thousands of sexy babes I've seen in internet porn. Surprisingly, the service & attitude was in step with the looks. And you might be amazed at where I found her & the price.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai; 1445867]A Harold444 by any other name is still a Harold444. You can always tell by the same old tired rant.
As far as the sponsor topic goes I know a woman in Pattaya with a t-shirt shop who is the spitting image of Olive Oil's 50 year old sister. Her number might be a 3. In the 10 years that I've known her she has had at least 5 sponsors and one married her for a few years before he woke up. Think about it. She's old, far from pretty, does not even work bar but is very much in the game. So what do you suppose the lovelies, even the 6's and 7's can pull off?[/QUOTE]I know Rainbow 4 girl who doesn't work because of sponsorship. Quite a pretty girl, good earner. I would think guy has to be paying at least $2500 a month, and this has been going on for at least 4 years. That's over $120,000, and I have to believe my estimate is on the low side. Her friends that I know are quite the low earners whom I'm trying to get more intelligence from. What is the set-up, all the nitty gritty details.
Sponsorship is just something you can't see. You need inside info. From those in the know. I haven't a clue what percentage of them have sponsor. I just can't think its too many. Are there that many idiots out there?
[QUOTE=Opebo;1445800]What interrogation? I've never stayed in a hotel where they asked the girl [i]any[/i] questions whatsoever, and in many of hotels they don't even ask to see or keep the ID card. I admit I only stay at hotels in the 500-1000 baht range.[/QUOTE]Well, your hotel price range will not give you this experience, that much is certain. But just so you know for future reference, every business-class hotel is concerned about theft, and also about the under-age / false I'd problem. That's why the 3, 000 baht range hotel desk people care. Also, business people who stay at hotels in this price range have more stuff to steal, and making sure the I'd is real deters the amateur thief. And, the more adventurous scam artists out there.
Of course, using a short-time hotel makes a lot of sense, I agree with you. But, when push comes to shove, I'd rather have my own room, and amenities. I have no problem with Soi Six, but for an overnight I want nice digs.
- Gunga
[quote=gunga din;1446063]that's why the 3, 000 baht range hotel desk people care.[/quote]aha, kinda interesting theory.
unfortunately in all my stays in mid- and high-level hotels i never ever experienced something like an interview for the girl i brought with me. they always took the id of the girl, checked it and wished us a good night. actually i usually stay away from very young girls, so i don't have to worry about **** girls.
some hotels call you and asked if everything is ok, when your guest want to leave the hotel again (happened to me at dusit d2 in pattaya) , but that's all
[QUOTE=Gunga Din;1446063]...every business-class hotel is concerned about theft, and also about the under-age / false I'd problem. That's why the 3, 000 baht range hotel desk people care. Also, business people who stay at hotels in this price range have more stuff to steal, and making sure the I'd is real deters the amateur thief. And, the more adventurous scam artists out there.
Of course, using a short-time hotel makes a lot of sense, I agree with you. I have no problem with Soi Six, but for an overnight I want nice digs.[/QUOTE]
Seems like it aught to be the guest's decision regarding the theft risk. Sounds like a very undesirable class of hotel.
Also regarding short time hotels, there's no need to go to Soi Six and take one of those - you can take any girl from any venue to one of the many independent short time hotels around the Pattaya area, 100-300 baht short time typically. I've never gone long-time with a sex-worker in my life.
[quote=zauberfee; 1446071]aha, kinda interesting theory.
unfortunately in all my stays in mid- and high-level hotels i never ever experienced something like an interview for the girl i brought with me. they always took the i'd of the girl, checked it and wished us a good night. actually i usually stay away from very young girls, so i don't have to worry about **** girls.
some hotels call you and asked if everything is ok, when your guest want to leave the hotel again (happened to me at dusit d2 in pattaya) , but that's all[/quote]
even if it is high end hotel we talk about like kempinski, hyatt, centre point t21, swissotel, lebua, novotel platinum etc etc it is all a matter if i bring my girls to the reception. most of the times i just meet them lets say in the lobby and we just head for the room without going by the receptionarea. in places like this i only cater the none p4p market as in regular normal girls. but i can not say the hotelstaff are pushy in knowing who my guest are(and they dont know if it is a prostitute or a normal girl except from these girl are very well behaved, dressed and looks very "good, as in nice and kind). i can actually not remember it has happened except for one time in swissotel/beijing(but maby memory serves me wrongly now).. but when they leave without me i often get a call from security "your guest is leaving - everything ok?". how the fuck do they know where she comes from? i guess surveilance takes place even if we like it or not, hehe..
i am more used to girls beeing asked for id in more mid-ranged options(like grand president in suk soi 11 and in pattis lk empress). atleast in the beginning they asked all my girls for id. after they started to know my face around there they stop asking as i trust my own judgment(and mostly it is fine).. ascott makati same - and here i bring alot of girls both p4p and normal. receptionist just saying "hi" when walking past the reception and no id required but everytime a girl leave - "your guest is leaving - everything ok?" hehe....
[QUOTE=Streetwalker7;1446056]I know Rainbow 4 girl who doesn't work because of sponsorship. Quite a pretty girl, good earner. I would think guy has to be paying at least $2500 a month, and this has been going on for at least 4 years. That's[/QUOTE]I can be surprised but I am more surprised on how you know this. Did the girl tell you that? Any proof?
Surely it is even cheaper than maintaining a mistress in PRC or Japan or anywhere else in the western world (if she stays exclusive)
It is not even much (still far too much for Thailand, even if velvet lining pussy and she brings everytime 2 girl friends to fill the bed) di per se, but unless you are th eone paying or a very close friend of the guy paying, IMHO I would be suspicious about such a statement.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1446182]I can be surprised but I am more surprised on how you know this. Did the girl tell you that? Any proof?
Surely it is even cheaper than maintaining a mistress in PRC or Japan or anywhere else in the western world (if she stays exclusive)
It is not even much (still far too much for Thailand, even if velvet lining pussy and she brings everytime 2 girl friends to fill the bed) di per se, but unless you are th eone paying or a very close friend of the guy paying, IMHO I would be suspicious about such a statement.[/QUOTE]US2500 sounds crazy but there are also crazy guys out there who are probably willing to pay up for exclusive pussy (atleast they think the pussy is exclusively theirs). I have met one girl in Thailand living in a guys apartment above the Emporium shopping mall and even access to his car. This guy visited Thailand 2-3 times a year (I don't know if she got additional money or any ammount though). She brought me back and we fucked like rabbits (so much for exclutivity).
In Phils a couple of weeks ago I had a girl showing me her skype, e-mails- and datingsitecommunication from some other punters. I had to laugh as she got from 3sponsors 50000piso (40000bht) each month all together. Not even met in real life (I could see that through their communication) only through internet. She laughed and I laughed. But ofcourse when you meet girls telling you they have sponsors I think maby the girls in general maby raise the numbers a bit (atleast while telling other girls operating the same way).
I did tell in the photothread something like when you visit the zoo you see signs "don't feed the animals" in immigrations all over SEA there should be big unavoidable signs telling "don't sponsor prostitutes as she will fuck others no matter what".
"Need to find a good BJ place. I would like to get some advice on this area."
"My Friend You Bar" on Soi 6, by far the best in the city.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1446182]I can be surprised but I am more surprised on how you know this. Did the girl tell you that? Any proof?
Surely it is even cheaper than maintaining a mistress in PRC or Japan or anywhere else in the western world (if she stays exclusive)
It is not even much (still far too much for Thailand, even if velvet lining pussy and she brings everytime 2 girl friends to fill the bed) di per se, but unless you are th eone paying or a very close friend of the guy paying, IMHO I would be suspicious about such a statement.[/QUOTE]No proof. But I did see the sponsor (farang with long pointy nose slim build, wears glasses) with said girl in the bar many a times. Darn it, I miss her a lot. Her friends even tell me to call her and say hello- they have her phone number and were willing to let me call on their mobile.
Here's my analysis. A popular Rainbow girl should be able to get 5 barfines a week, at least. Thats $375 then you add in salary, tips, drink commissions. One should easily make $500 a week. Or $2000 a month.
To make it worthwhile for the girl to leave the bar one needs to replace her bar income and then add a premium to it. Hence my figure of $2500.
Of course if the girl didn't like bar work maybe $1,500 a month would be sufficient. Highly doubtful though as I recal this girll needed to fund her farm family. I couldn't believe it when she told me her momma makes her help pull weeds or harvest the crops on their farm. You just don't make a good looker with nice tits do farm work. Girls who do farm work just don't age well.
Just guessing. I'm no expert on sponsorship. It's not something one can see and observe.
[QUOTE=Bill Miami; 1446226]"Need to find a good BJ place. I would like to get some advice on this area."
"My Friend You Bar" on Soi 6, by far the best in the city.[/QUOTE]Not sure if you are responding to another poster or asking a question? Either way MFYB, the person to see is Chompoon but get her early? By night she is either gone or upstairs doing her upteen customer?
[QUOTE=Streetwalker7; 1446236]No proof. But I did see the sponsor (farang with long pointy nose slim build, wears glasses) with said girl in the bar many a times.
Just guessing. I'm no expert on sponsorship. It's not something one can see and observe.[/QUOTE]Just to puthtings in perspection. Was that amount your assumption or her statement? I am just curious on which basis somebody is paying 2500$ a month to a thai girl and seeing her from tine to time.
Unless she has some fine arts we do not know about. But still. 30k a year?
[QUOTE=NishNish; 1444692]I am from India. We do have Bachelor of Business Administration In India. What will I get by lying people? Yea a few months ago I did post I was "18" it was a mistype and I meant 19. My birthday is in June so I turned 20 B-) Yes I do earn $5, 000 a month and all is saved because in India we all live with our parents, like everyone. We don't move out, that's the tradition, Joint Family, like in Japan so I don't incur expenses on food, shelter, clothing etc. I am working for flipkart as a marketing assistant for eastern zone hence the big package. So here it is, I didn't need to clarify but young and full of rage to prove myself you see. \
And yes as I told I have been to Bangkok "with my parents" so it was a family trip, never been here alone so I don't have nay idea about the mongering scene except for walk in MP's! Iv nothing to clarify, I just want genuine opinions and help. Thank you people.
Call me dumb, stupid whatever, it really doesn't matter. Am working my ass off to earn so I can happily have an enjoyable life ahead, for your info I did the research myself an found if a company based in Thailand employs me I can be in Thailand for as many years as I like, so already applied to many MNC's.
Cheers
The so called "DUMBFUCK"[/QUOTE]Yeh so called Dumbfuck. Nish nish lying is an art and you still have to perfect it. In your previous post you say you are commerce graduate and in this post you say you are business graduate. I am still thinking. Now you say you are just 20. That mean you have just completed your graduation and you are making $ 5000.00 a month. I am sure most of us must be jealous of you. Even few guys from IIT and IIM don't get that kind of package.
Even I failed to under stand if you making $5000 how can you have saving of 50000 in 5 month. Cause 10% tax at source (TDS) will be deducted by your employee and since you come under 30% tax bracket you will still have 20% TAX liability.
So just get your fact right.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1446405]Just to puthtings in perspection. Was that amount your assumption or her statement? I am just curious on which basis somebody is paying 2500$ a month to a thai girl and seeing her from tine to time.
Unless she has some fine arts we do not know about. But still. 30k a year?[/QUOTE]Purely my deduction. See my forensic financial analysis. Tell if I'm way off or in the ballpark. It doesn't take a lot for a hot girl to make $1500 a month hooking at Rainbow 4.
You don't believe me or what? I've stated what is fact (I've seen the sponsor and sat next to him) and what is me speculating (the financial details).
Another tidbit- when her friends show me an updated photo of BAM she loooks really really good. Then they show me another one where she is without make-up- she don't look so good. LOL.
I've never seen her without her cosmetics face. So who knows what amount she actually commands.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1446388]Not sure if you are responding to another poster or asking a question? Either way MFYB, the person to see is Chompoon but get her early? By night she is either gone or upstairs doing her upteen customer?[/QUOTE]Thanks a bunch for advice for both of you. I will try it out in Sept.
[QUOTE=Streetwalker7; 1446412]Purely my deduction. See my forensic financial analysis. Tell if I'm way off or in the ballpark. It doesn't take a lot for a hot girl to make $1500 a month hooking at Rainbow 4.
You don't believe me or what? I've stated what is fact (I've seen the sponsor and sat next to him) and what is me speculating (the financial details).
Another tidbit- when her friends show me an updated photo of BAM she loooks really really good. Then they show me another one where she is without make-up- she don't look so good. LOL.
I've never seen her without her cosmetics face. So who knows what amount she actually commands.[/QUOTE]I believe onnthe fact you saw the sposnit and on your deductions, but not much, and maybe I am wrong, in her "statements". I mean, sometime girls tend to show off what they don't have, not to lose face with the friends.
What is puzzling me is somebody paying 2500$ to a girl each month. For 12 months. I have a (girl) Irene who aha a kind of a sponsor and pays her the flights from BKK to Phuket when he goes there for a week or ten days, and pays her friend toomsonshe has somebody along. And there is no sex, believe it or not (thats what she says). But I am not so sure she gets more than a 1000€ average per month. That makes 40000 baht, which is quite something for Thailand. A gogo girl can earn 60/80k baht a month, no doubt. But that comes from making a lot of BF' and many ST's.
For sake of argument a girl might expect and get 4000 be. For LT, but I doubt a single punter, booking her for 10 days, will pay 40. 000. That is my theory. IMHO.
[QUOTE=Gunga Din;1442442]The hotel desk clerk gave her the usual Thai interrogation all girls get[/QUOTE]Not sure why Gunga is getting grief over this innocuous statement. I read it as a colorful description of what happens at every reputable hotel. The 'interrogation' can range from taking the girls identification and filing it away, to having a short conversation with the girl about the procedure (we take I.D., you go up and be respectful of the furniture, you come down, we call up to the guest to make sure everything is ok, you get your I.D. back). Nothing wrong with Gunga's description, except that it's an interesting way to capture the annoying nature of this banal event.
[QUOTE=Opebo]Why didn't you simply take your girl to a short-time hotel? That's the recommended practice anyway, for safety.[/QUOTE]Again, I am with Gunga on this one, no disrespect to Opebo. I really don't like short time hotels. I guess I prefer to see the linens I am fucking on, and to know that the last person to shower in the stall was me. I know, it's irrational, but I feel safer and more comfortable in a room that I have for a longer period of time. Just my preference, and that's it.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1446526]What is puzzling me is somebody paying 2500$ to a girl each month. For 12 months. But I am not so sure she gets more than a 1000€ average per month. That makes 40000 baht, which is quite something for Thailand. A gogo girl can earn 60/80k baht a month, no doubt. But that comes from making a lot of BF' and many ST's.
For sake of argument a girl might expect and get 4000 be. For LT, but I doubt a single punter, booking her for 10 days, will pay 40. 000. That is my theory. IMHO.[/QUOTE]If that were the case we would see a bunch of these girls living in the lap of luxury, in plush condos, driving new motorbikes and new Toyotas. And I just don't see that happening around here. You can talk about them sending money home, but even if they did rake in $2500 they would not be fool enough to send $2000 to their family and live off of $500 (as you can tell is probably what most of these girls live off of - if that). Anyway, I think that what the girl makes off just working in the gogo is grossly overestimated by many mongers on this board. They figure, "She is my style and I'm sure all the other punters like her so she has to be getting barfined 2 or 3 times everyday at 2000 baht/pop (or more judging from many reports)." You show me a gogo girl that is making US$4000/month. Shit ain't happening.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1446533]If that were the case we would see a bunch of these girls living in the lap of luxury, in plush condos, driving new motorbikes and new Toyotas. And I just don't see that happening around here. You can talk about them sending money home, but even if they did rake in $2500 they would not be fool enough to send $2000 to their family and live off of $500 (as you can tell is probably what most of these girls live off of - if that). Anyway, I think that what the girl makes off just working in the gogo is grossly overestimated by many mongers on this board. They figure, "She is my style and I'm sure all the other punters like her so she has to be getting barfined 2 or 3 times everyday at 2000 baht/pop (or more judging from many reports)." You show me a gogo girl that is making US$4000/month. Shit ain't happening.[/QUOTE]I agree $4000 is tough if one takes many days off for whatever reason, menstruation, etc.
Number 37 at Rainbow 4 is about the biggest moneymaker there is. She does get barfined almost everytime I'm there I see it with my own eyes and I'm usually there for no more than an hour. I have to believe she also get bf's when I'm not there at a high rate. If she doesn't get barfined it's an event. She will let me feel her up for a nominal fee. LOL. But many times I can't even say hello as she has a customer.
Once recently I even saw her go to the short time room at 8 pm, which means she also starts earlier than most of the hot chicks. 3 customer days probably not uncommon for this girl.
This girl can easily clear $1000 a week. The part I don't know about is how long can she go without taking extended holidays. The vagina can only take so much-one would think. LOL. Now, I haven't seen her for a while. No work no money!
2nd example of girl clearing $1000 a week. My Rainbow 4 favorite. She says she gets 1 customer a day. I think she gets more. LOL. Another one where I see her gettting barfined. Say she get 9 customers a week, thats$675 right there. Add in another $200 as she does do long time. Voila $1000 for a week. And this girl will work 3 weeks staright before heading home to drop off the baht to momma.
3rd example. Just last night I asked Rainbow 4 girl how much customers she gets in a day. She said 1-I think more. LOL. Another case where I see girl being barfined constantly.
I'm not saying these girls make $4k a month but these are some of the better earners I see. Examples 2 and 3 I estimate to make almsot $3000 a month. Quite successful one would think. LOL.
PS I don't ask girls who I don't see getting barfined how many customers they get. LOL.
Prelude to my next topic.
Rainbow 1. Customer base so small how do they make money. Theres just not enough customer money in that joint to make the girls happy. This place I don't see girls getting bfined constantly like at R4 R2 and Baccara.
35 girls working last night ending of prime time hours. I counted 12 customers. The baht just don't add up. And this place has pretty girls.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1446526]I believe onnthe fact you saw the sposnit and on your deductions, but not much, and maybe I am wrong, in her "statements". I mean, sometime girls tend to show off what they don't have, not to lose face with the friends.
What is puzzling me is somebody paying 2500$ to a girl each month. For 12 months. I have a (girl) Irene who aha a kind of a sponsor and pays her the flights from BKK to Phuket when he goes there for a week or ten days, and pays her friend toomsonshe has somebody along. And there is no sex, believe it or not (thats what she says). But I am not so sure she gets more than a 1000€ average per month. That makes 40000 baht, which is quite something for Thailand. A gogo girl can earn 60/80k baht a month, no doubt. But that comes from making a lot of BF' and many ST's.
For sake of argument a girl might expect and get 4000 be. For LT, but I doubt a single punter, booking her for 10 days, will pay 40. 000. That is my theory. IMHO.[/QUOTE]Stop being puzzled. LOL. You are bringing back fond memories of this girl. I really liked her.
I have no freaking idea what guy is paying. I just made a guesstimate of what I think would be appropriate. My thinking is you need to replace hooking income then add a premium for girl to take the offer. Even a bottome feeder type girl would need $1500 a month to hang up the bra and panties. LOL. Who knows.
Lets say guy is paying $1500 a month is that more acceptable and believable? To me no matter the amount it is just stupid. LOL.
If her friends were willing to let me call Bam it leads me to believe sponsor still lives in Europe.
Your example of a 10 day barfine. Why wouldn't guy pay 40, 000. If girl is hot she should ask for more!
Girl has never made any statements to me about her deal and I never asked her directly. Looking back I wish I was a bit more inquisitive.
[QUOTE=Streetwalker7;1446056]Sponsorship is just something you can't see. You need inside info. From those in the know. I haven't a clue what percentage of them have sponsor. I just can't think its too many. Are there that many idiots out there?[/QUOTE]There is _plenty_. However, sponsorship goes by strange almost unpredictable mechanisms. I know this older laundry lady that works the Walking Street pub occasionally, she's slim, in good shape, has good manners, good English and good conversation. Performs decently in bed (without being a tigress) , unlike the "no this and no that" girls. She also tried the dating websites, yet far nothing has worked for her, no BF, and no sponsor, and the months / years are going by.
But as you walk you see truly ugly, overweight women with men apparentely even younger than them, and we heard how they had multiple sponsors. I believe the stories about trucks and homes bought over the years to be true. Other Thai ladies are the first to be surprised when they come across an old shag sucking out money off foreigners better than hot go-go girls. And of course for the latter is really not too difficult to make decent figures. I have also seen girls with unexpected economic resources, as I mentioned time ago, the ladybar driving a brand new Yaris, that was supposed to be for her father, but she just stuck to it for now. I never gave her much, but she never mentioned I should have. Few nights ago I had a young cuties overnight for 1K, she works in a bar and (according to her) the regular fee for ST is 2K including 300 barfine. She didn't had any issue with the large difference.
The mechanics of money flowing around pussy is just surprising here, things are not so plain as one may think.
[QUOTE=Streetwalker7;1446602]I agree $4000 is tough if one takes many days off for whatever reason, menstruation, etc.[/QUOTE]I don't dispute that there are girls earning quite some money every month, with many BF's, as you assume. But how many a night? Two? Three? Every single night of the month they work? And for how many months.
It also means there is a large customer base for her (and her alone) putting together such a number of BF's (and ST's) , even if a few customers might do a repeat for a couple of nights. She has to put together at least 40 to 50 customers a month. Her alone. With a significant wearing of her main asset. 50 customers a month at 2000b. Each makes 100. 000b, ie 3200$.
What I dispute is that there is a single customer who can hand over such an amount of money for many months. And what for? To get back what? Propriety? Exclusivity? What is the sense? To be rude, how much time will he spend with her each month and how many times is he going to fuck her? I know, life is not all around how many times you do it in a day, but still. 3/4000$ for a nice company? I know, people pays 1000$ for an evening with an escort, but he is then going to do that 4 times a month, every months?
Some mighty exists, but not many. Maybe that girl hit the jackpot, if the ASSUMPTIONS made so far have a base of reality.
I have a friend who goes to Singapore and she can make 100, 000b. in the 4 weeks she stays there. But goes there only 3-4 times a year. The rest of her time she stays home with the family (Issan) or works in same bars in BKK. That means the 100000b per month is a peak and happens a few times a year, not every month. I don't know how much she makes when in BKK, though. But whatever she makes, as an average month through a year including the Singapore spells, will come out surely less than 50, 000b. Still remarkable, no doubt. This for sure is also not going to last for a decade, mind you.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1446649]I don't dispute that there are girls earning quite some money every month, with many BF's, as you assume. But how many a night? Two? Three? Every single night of the month they work? And for how many months.
It also means there is a large customer base for her (and her alone) putting together such a number of BF's (and ST's) , even if a few customers might do a repeat for a couple of nights. She has to put together at least 40 to 50 customers a month. Her alone. With a significant wearing of her main asset. 50 customers a month at 2000b. Each makes 100. 000b, ie 3200$.
What I dispute is that there is a single customer who can hand over such an amount of money for many months. And what for? To get back what? Propriety? Exclusivity? What is the sense? To be rude, how much time will he spend with her each month and how many times is he going to fuck her? I know, life is not all around how many times you do it in a day, but still. 3/4000$ for a nice company? I know, people pays 1000$ for an evening with an escort, but he is then going to do that 4 times a month, every months?
Some mighty exists, but not many. Maybe that girl hit the jackpot, if the ASSUMPTIONS made so far have a base of reality.[/QUOTE]You do not hang out on a frequent basis at Thailands top agogos I must presume.
Go to Rainbow 4 and observe number 37. Her price isn't 2000 a short time session. She gets 2500 a session. Really I think she should charge more due to the wear and tear on her body. Less customers at a higher rate will lenghten this girls career and earning power.
You a tough nut to crack. LOL.
Back to the sponsored girl. Put yourself in her shoes. You make 1700$ a month at Rain. 4. How much would it take to get you out of the bar?
Back to the guy. Who knows what his motivations are. Maybe he really wants the girls vagina for exclusive use. Maybe he sees himself as a knight in shining armour. Maybe he just stupid. I think he just stupid. LOL.
As for money. People have it. Just because you wouldn't sponsor a hooker doesn't mean someone else wouldn't. I still don't understand why someone would eat a strangers
Shit. But they do. LOL.
Back to the 3 examples of Rain. 4 girls doing quite well for themselves. I'm not making assumptions per se based on a small sample size. Over the past year, or half a year, whatever applies to each girl, I see them getting barfined a lot.
You see the same girl getting pulled offstage is the first sign. 2nd sign you know they closed the deal is they go to pick up thier purse and go change clothes.
The assumption I make is if it happens often when I'm there it must also happen when I'm not there.
They stops farangs only with motorbikes and gives them a ticket. I saw a guy with helmet and proper driving license got one.
Non of the thai were stoped. It's all about money not law. Actuly its about white since rich thai are not being stops.
[QUOTE=Mr Xxxa; 1446728]They stops farangs only with motorbikes and gives them a ticket. I saw a guy with helmet and proper driving license got one.
Non of the thai were stoped. It's all about money not law. Actuly its about white since rich thai are not being stops.[/QUOTE]How do you know if he had proper driver's license or the reason he was stopped? The cops do stop Thais too, not as much as Falangs but it happens.
[QUOTE=Mr Xxxa;1446728]Non of the thai were stoped. It's all about money not law. Actuly its about white since rich thai are not being stops.[/QUOTE]Just a tiny bit of regular English wold help making your point?
"None", not "Non".
"Stopped", not "stoped"
"Actually, 'not "actuly"
"It's", not "its"
"about white", try inserting a verb here.
"Thais", not "thai"
"Stopped', not "stops".
7 in a sentence, not bad at all.
Anyway, as others have pointed out, you're wrong.
[QUOTE=Streetwalker7;1446688]<babbling>[/QUOTE]What is the point of switching nicks if you keep barking up the same tree?
What is the reason you're so fixated with a single brothel prostitutes, and their income?
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1446893]What is the point of switching nicks if you keep barking up the same tree?
What is the reason you're so fixated with a single brothel prostitutes, and their income?[/QUOTE]I like to know the inside Baseball information about agogos. Meaning I'd like to know all that I can know. I want to know what the various bars are charged for rent. And how do they make rent, payroll, profits with only 3 customers during prime time. LOL.
Some of us are inquisitive- it actually adds to the fun.
I want to know if some girls are in debt to agents who get them their hooker jobs, etc. I want to know why some keep doing what they do with not a customer in sight. LOL.
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1446883]Just a tiny bit of regular English wold help making your point?
"None", not "Non".
"Stopped", not "stoped"
"Actually, 'not "actuly"
"It's", not "its"
"about white", try inserting a verb here.
"Thais", not "thai"
"Stopped', not "stops".
7 in a sentence, not bad at all.
Anyway, as others have pointed out, you're wrong.[/QUOTE]Stick to your point of view! Just because he doesn't agree doesn't mean you go and pick apart his grammar and spelling. You got the point as to what he was saying right or wrong otherwise you wouldn't have gone into detail as to how he should have worded everything.
There is no need to dress him down outside of the topic because he doesn't agree with you!
LBM
have continued as far as soi 13/2, the wreckage continues with some lovely shaded trees having to pay the price, our darlings are going to be burned to a cinder, so if you like them really dark and crispy, try november, all works should be done by the beginning of high season. paving has progressed as far as central pattaya road. just back from the beach after a lovely day in some murky waters. some darlings were selling from central pattaya road towards soi 1. all are offering 500b st.
the tent market has arrived today but appears not to have deterred our loves, i suppose when the market is in full swing come weekend there will be a scarcity of babes about during the day, that is. bottom of beach road is now pretty confined, darlings will be shoulder to shoulder come tonight, a stroll should be in order if you in the area.
soi 6 has been fun, been watching the goings on and had myself a babe out of quickie bar, overnight, she accepted 1000b in the morning, i had spent a bomb getting us both leathered, she must have enjoyed herself, had to run from her today, she being all over me as i stepped form my hotel. got hunted several days back by a stunner from bangkok, don't really enjoy being hunted, makes me all nervous like, after spending several days with her lovely bod i politely told her i needed to spend time alone. cost! nothing. a few meals and being continually raped several times a day, it got pretty tough but somebody has to bear the brunt of horny thai chicks, they got to get their guns off too. she should have paid me lol. anyway, i told her when in bangkok i need a tour guide, she did not respond initially but assured me she would gladly tour me in between the rapage. i somehow get the feeling she may blank me when i call, i'm pretty sure boyfriend is surely around. i have been told by the ladies on the beach, bkk freebie had been by the following day asking of my whereabouts as well as what sort i am.
other matters: a plain clothed policeman, roughly 65, bespectacled, is offering 'coke' at the bottom of beach road, near walking street, i do not believe it to be of the liquid variety, take care gentlemen. i have had the privilege of being taken to a hot babes home in the back regions of pattaya, her room is new and beautiful, finished to a high standard as far as i could see, rent 3000b per month. 500b electricity. outstanding, no ac, but hardly needs any. i did not ask her if i could take photos but will try to get some from her as i am seeing her again, should have more details in the coming week or so. everything in her area is roughly a third of the cost in the tourist areas, however you will need motorcycle if you going to live off the tourist track.
Always something going on in this great City? It should be a mess on the 21st, the annual Marathon is happening plus there is a two day holiday coming up! Traffic should be a mess as always with the High So Thais from Bangkok spending the weekend in Pattaya. Not sure what is closing but prepare yourself it will be a mess down in the tourist area.
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1447157]Stick to your point of view! Just because he doesn't agree doesn't mean you go and pick apart his grammar and spelling. You got the point as to what he was saying right or wrong otherwise you wouldn't have gone into detail as to how he should have worded everything.
There is no need to dress him down outside of the topic because he doesn't agree with you!
LBM[/QUOTE]Thanks, your idiocy made me laugh. Be the defensor of extreme mispelling on my ignore list.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1447197]Thanks, your idiocy made my day. Be happy with the others on my ignore list.[/QUOTE]Thanks for doing me a favor. It pretty clear you are going to be the new and next H444. Your point is lost because of you attitude and I know it doesn't take much to make your day. I don't use the ignore because it is fun reading things from born fools like you. Enjoy yourself loser and I actually agree with some of the stuff you were saying?
Just returned from my first trip to Thailand (phuket, ko phi phi, Pattaya, kosamet and BKK). Best trip ever. Any rookies on the fence. GO. Thailand is great. Can't add much more than has been reported. The Thai girls are the best. Enjoyed several on Soi 6. The Quickie Bar was true to its name. Received the mother of all BBBJ didn't even last for the fuck. She laughed and I ended up taking her out to walking street then back to my hotel. Had a magical night.
Must get one thing off my chest. Maybe my expectations were to high. But I was way dissapointed in the Devils Den. I was all pumped up. I played it cool. Chose the smiley girl and let her chose the playmate. Maybe the wrong move. The whole experience was just very plain. I mean I was happy to have sex with two sexy Thai girls. But I asked for a little girl kissing. No. Lick her pussy. No. Strap that on and fuck her. No. Anyway maybe the luck of the pick.
But I love the place. Was planning to go to my first trip to AC in November. But with all the issues with bar raids may happily return to Thailand.
Thanks for all the reports.
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1446883]Just a tiny bit of regular English wold help making your point?
"None", not "Non".
"Stopped", not "stoped"
"Actually, 'not "actuly"
"It's", not "its"
"about white", try inserting a verb here.
"Thais", not "thai"
"Stopped', not "stops".
7 in a sentence, not bad at all.
Anyway, as others have pointed out, you're wrong.[/QUOTE]C'mon Marcos! He's the Rachael Jeantel of the board. Don't be hatin', cracka! He new skool. You just old.
:D 555
[QUOTE=Noddy;1447175]Have continued as far as Soi 13/2.[/QUOTE]Good info, thanks for sharing.
Last night, I was at Baby Dolls. This bar is located in the same Soi as Angel Witch and Sapphire, but a bit more towards the Second Road. They have quite a few cuties. Furthermore, as already reported here, they have a quite reasonable barfine system, whereas the fines drop the later it gets. At around 2AM, the fines were down to 400 Baht. The girl, a cutie, very slim and almost a spinner asked for 2000 Baht for overnight. Not bad, so I agreed and had a nice companion until 2PM the next day.
However, what makes me a bit concerned is another observation I made at this bar, it must have been shortly before 2AM. All of a sudden, the girls become nervous and put on their bikinis and miniskirts. Before, they were mostly semi-nude or nude. Also, some of the managers start to run around, to and from the door. I ask my girl: "police", and her answer was clear.
About two minutes later, three officers from the "Tourist Police" enter the bar and look around. They are one blonde woman and two men. Apparently, they are particularly interested in inspecting the bathtub in the background of the bar. However, they don't find anything to complain. All girls wear some clothes. So, the three police people leave the bar, looking a bit stupid, but also slightly arrogant.
I am wondering now, what is the role of the Tourist Police? So far, I thought they should protect the tourists from all kinds of crimes, ranging from getting drugged to petty crimes and pickpockets. They should also be a place to report our complaints.
It is new to me that the Tourist Police is interested whether or not the girls wear clothes. Or are they now also involved in extracting money from the bar owners? So far, I had a relatively good impression of the Tourist Police in general. Some time ago, I also had some quite reasonable talk with an Aussie Police Officer, and he gave me some useful advice and hints. However, after yesterday's observation, I start to have some doubts.
Anybody who knows more about this issue? Thanks for some insight!
Wonderer
[quote=wonderer;1447974]last night, i was at baby dolls. .[/quote]intersting report.
regarding the tourist police inspeaction. i speak without a deep knowledge of the matter, but i can tell you for sure, if they as foreigners have been allowed on premises, it's because the owner knows that the real police has empowered them and is behind them in the operation. otherwise they have virtually zero power legally. why they did that, we can only hipotize, may be an ego-stroking prize given to them, but is still very strange. shakes for money by police are no matter for falangs (tourist police or not) to be part of. sometime plain clothes tourist police are used as decoy in **** sex busts and drugs cases, but that doesn't appear the case here.
btw how the slim girl has perfomed?
There is an obvious difference between the Tourist Police and the Tourist Police volunteers, the volunteers have no police powers per se but the TP are real cops with arrest and police powers. Hope you never have to use their service but the role of the TP is:
[url]http://eng.pattayatouristpolice.com/modules.php?name=TouristaboutUs[/url]
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Over the past three decades, the tourism industry of the country has grown rapidly. There are more and more foreign tourists every year, bringing in a large amount of revenue to the country. At the same time, problems of crime and manipulation of tourists have been on the rise. The government has set up an organization to be responsible for tourist safety and well-being, in addition to the local Police. Initially, the private sector, in co-operation with the Tourism Authority of Thailand or the Tourism Organization of Thailand, made a special request to The Royal Thai Police concerning tourist safety. The Royal Thai Police consequently set up the Tourist Safety and Convenience Center (TSCC) , under the Crime Suppression Division. With a staff of 60 policemen, the center registered complaints, investigated matters, and provided protection and safety for tourists in various places and tourist attractions in Bangkok. At that time, the private sector contributed to the venture by donating vehicles and communications equipment for the Police. Meanwhile, the Royal Thai Police worked on establishing the center as the Tourist Police Division so that it would be a permanent organization, responsible for tourist safety and well-being. The Government approved the proposal, in principle, on 24 November 1976, but there were problems with the budget.
The Ministry of Interior was responsible for providing safety and general services for tourists. The Royal Thai Police Department was asked to form the new Police Division which would specialize in dealing with tourists. The Royal Thai Police and the Tourism Authority of Thailand subsequently made some adjustments and changed the TSCC into the Tourist Assistance Center (TAC). The TAC was to provide services to tourists regarding their complaints about crime and manipulation. The TAC's area of responsibility was also expanded to other popular tourist destinations apart from Bangkok, namely, Chiangmai, Pattaya, Phuket and Hatyai. Later in 1992, realizing the importance of the organization, the Government finally established a permanent Tourist Police Organization at Pattaya. Section 5, Direction Division 8, under the Crime Suppression Division, according to the Royal Decree on the division of Government Organization in the Royal Thai Police, the Ministry of Interior (the 10th).2525 B. E.
However, with the rapid growth of the Tourism Industry, both in terms of the increasing number of tourists and widespread tourist attractions all over the country, the structure of the Tourist Police Organization at Direction Division Level was not in line with its responsibility to provide tourists with safety and general services. The government therefore changed the Tourist Police Organization to become the Tourist Police Division, under the Central Investigation Bureau, and changed the Section 5, Direction Division 8 into Tourist Police Station 4, Sub-Division 2, Tourist Police Division, according to the Royal Decree on the division of government organizations in The Royal Thai Police. 2548 B. E, and the Ministerial Regulations on the Division of Government Organization or the other name of government organization in the Royal Thai Police. 2548 B. E, which came into force on 1st July 2005.
Tourist Police Station 4, Sub-Division 2, Tourist Police Division, is located at 609/1 Moo. 10, Pratumnak Road, Pattaya, Banglamung, Chonburi 20150. Tel. 038 429 371, 038 425 937, Fax. 038 410 044, having the responsibilities in the areas of Chonburi, Samutprakarn, and Chachoengsao Provinces.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1448000]There is an obvious difference between the Tourist Police and the Tourist Police volunteers, the volunteers have no police powers per se but the TP are real cops with arrest and police powers.[/QUOTE]Yes. Since Wonderer mentioned one blonde woman and two men, we infer they were foreign voluntereers. They cannot be real police not even in their wildest dreams. While a Thai Tourist Police volunteer (of which there are many) is possibly of a slightly highest status, and could could become a real cop eventually. After paying the admission bribe that I've heard to be about 100K Bt.
Oh and the two minutes passed in between the girls getting "dressed" and the clowns coming in, shows how either the bar was told in advance, or they were visiting all the venues around. Just a show of presence with no real meaning I think.
[QUOTE=SanLuisMex; 1447835]Must get one thing off my chest. Maybe my expectations were to high. But I was way dissapointed in the Devils Den. I was all pumped up. I played it cool. Chose the smiley girl and let her chose the playmate. Maybe the wrong move. The whole experience was just very plain. I mean I was happy to have sex with two sexy Thai girls. But I asked for a little girl kissing. No. Lick her pussy. No. Strap that on and fuck her. No. Anyway maybe the luck of the pick.
But I love the place. Was planning to go to my first trip to AC in November. But with all the issues with bar raids may happily return to Thailand.[/QUOTE]I'm glad you enjoyed your first trip. It sounds like you had a good itinerary, mixing your girlie adventures with touristc stuff. Regarding Devil's Den, some girls offer a restricted menu but I believe the manager is very upfront and open about the girls, so you could list your expectations when you enter? Alternatively I think their website offers a list of what each girl will do and the girls can be pre-booked too.
As for your next trip, I highly recommend Angeles. The quantity and quality of the girls is excellent, it's much cheaper than Thailand, the girls speak excellent English, the bar-fines are for long-time and the girls perform better, often offering multiple pops as matter of course. You could visit Philippines and do some good mongering in Manila, Angeles and Cebu and perhaps visit Palawan and Chocolate Hills if you want to dilute your adventures with a bit of tourism. Don't let the raids put you off, they are extremely sporadic and the police aren't targeting the tourist, they're targeting the bar-owner.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1448008]While a Thai Tourist Police volunteer (of which there are many) is possibly of a slightly highest status, and could could become a real cop eventually. After paying the admission bribe that I've heard to be about 100K Bt.[/QUOTE]
Farang throw around too much shit information in Pattaya. I doubt Tourist Police positions are too lucrative. Extracting bribes from foreign tourists is unlikely to be encouraged within that particular branch, bad publicity. Regular Thai police, on the other hand, in an area where they get to regulate (extort for protection) lucrative semi-legal businesses... that's a whole different game financially.
Croc, I never said Tourist Police (not volunteers) pulls bribes from tourists. But they are almost an accessory to Jetsky scams and others, and never will take the side of the foreign / tourist, be reassured. In case of controversies, their job is to mediate the demands until some agreement can be had. In case of more serious crimes thei will proudly use their English skills (!?!) or whatever language is needed to take the report, and that's pretty much it. Remember, police or not, you're on your own in Thailand.
Since I'm here. Not meeting yet the record of two weeks ago when two in row were shown the door (that they never close when marching out) with 1K bath.
This one was a decently good looking Isaan one from Lucifer, with the usual trite story of visting her sister from Bangkok. After one pop she decided that the agreed 1. 5K (already upped from 1K) for BB was meant to be ST. May have to do with the fact that she was another perused unorgasmic hardened hooker. Well, that doesn't work for me.
The problem with such attitudes is that you can have all the greens before, and be surprised after. Well, after all who cares, I only regret having handed her Listerine after CIM.
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1448154]Croc, I never said Tourist Police (not volunteers) pulls bribes from tourists.
Remember, police or not, you're on your own in Thailand.[/QUOTE]In my initial post, I forgot to make clear that they three Tourist Police Officers were all falangs. That's also the reason, why I was so puzzled by this action. I have never seen anything similar before, despite plenty of visits to Pattaya. I would be surprised if they extract money from the bar owners. On they other hand. As it has mentioned here. The Tourist Police Volunteers (and they were certainly such Volunteers) have no real police power.
It is also correct that the bar definitely had a pre-warning, be it from their posts outside or be it from other bars. They clearly knew that "some police" is coming. That's also why the girls had time to dress up.
Perhaps, it was really just an "ego trip" of the three. I found it, nevertheless, remarkable.
And, I agree, as Marcos said. In Thailand, you are primarily on your own. Which also means that it may be good to have some (influential) friends, if ever any need arises.
Wonderer
[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1448000]There is an obvious difference between the Tourist Police and the Tourist Police volunteers, the volunteers have no police powers per se but the TP are real cops with arrest and police powers.
Tourist Police Station 4, Sub-Division 2, Tourist Police Division, is located at 609/1 Moo. 10, Pratumnak Road, Pattaya, Banglamung, Chonburi 20150. Tel. 038 429 371, 038 425 937, Fax. 038 410 044, having the responsibilities in the areas of Chonburi, Samutprakarn, and Chachoengsao Provinces.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Run Mann! Good background information. It is always useful to know a bit in what environment we are in.
Wonderer
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1447980]Intersting report.
BTW how the slim girl has perfomed?[/QUOTE]Well, the slim girl performed quite well, but she turned out to be a bit shy. I joined her under the shower, which she apparently did not enjoy too much. As opposed to other girls, who like such kind of foreplay and sometimes even do it under the shower. Much to my pleasure.
In the bed, she was ok, and my DATY made her quite wet. She did not give any BJ, but I did not ask either. During the deed, it appears that she also enjoyed quite a bit, but did not come. After I finished she did not waste any single second to jump out of the bed and to shower again. While it is no big issue, I still like to lie for a moment side by side, after the finish.
She stayed overnight and had a long, deep sleep. I probably could have done a second pop, but was not really in the mood. At around 2PM, she left. I asked to take some pictures, but she only allowed non-nude."Next time", she would allow nude. If there is a next time. Maybe I would do her a next time. I could imagine that this kind of girl opens up a bit, once you know each other better.
If you like more details, you may PM me.
Wonderer
[QUOTE=Wonderer;1448304]After I finished she did not waste any single second to jump out of the bed and to shower again.[/QUOTE]In all honesty, don't most of us prefer to have the girl jump out of bed and get on her way unless we have booked an all night.
The trick is to make the agreed two hour short time last two hours so the girl does not leave us physically satisfied but financially unsatisfied because we did not last the two hours.
i just recently returned from my third trip to pattaya, and i found that i still have much to learn about how things work there. if you're planning a trip and don't consider yourself a true expert on pattaya, i suggest you read every post made in the past few months in the pattaya forum so you can be as prepared as possible. i do this before each trip, but even so there are a few things i must have missed or failed to pay attention to and it cost me while i was there. i am going to split my report into two parts. the first post will be about some general issues with taking a trip to pattaya that might make your trip go a little more smoothly. if you're not interested in this, just skip to my next report which will be about the the girls.
airport transportation: when i arrived at bkk, i did not have transportation arranged. in the past, i have taken the bus, but found it to be overcrowded, hot, time consuming, and uncomfortable. i prefer to just take a taxi. the public taxi price from bkk to anywhere in pattaya is set at 1,500 baht. this includes the tolls, which i think are about 60 baht. you will pay the driver when you arrive. i gave a 100 baht tip and he seemed happy enough with that. i think it took about 90 minutes. traffic wasn't too bad at all. on the way back, i stopped off at one of the little booths on the street and arranged for a car to pick me up the next morning. the return price was 1,300 baht. they took me in a nice suv. they wanted me to pay in advance, but (not being very trusting at the time) i told them i would prefer to just pay the driver and they said ok.
transportation in town: while i walked just about everywhere i wanted to go, motorbikes are available for 50 baht to most places you want to go around the immediate area. baht buses run toward walking street on beach road and the opposite direction on second road. just hop on and pay 10 baht when you get off. pay attention so you don't miss your street because they move faster than you think. if there are no people in the baht bus, you can also rent it like you would a taxi. i did that once when leaving the pattaya floating market.
pictures with muay thai boxers: i fell victim to a bit of a scam while i was there, so i am posting this to help you avoid this. one night, i decided to watch some (fake as hell in my opinion) muay thai boxers on walking street. it was somewhat entertaining and i was having a pretty good time. i noticed that many tourists were getting a picture with the boxers, so i accepted the invitation of one of the boxers to have a picture with him. i did not ask a price because it seemed that the tourists were just giving some 100 baht bills as tips. one of the guys working there offered to take the picture. so, i jumped up in the ring and got my picture with one of the boxers and then another came over and jumped in for a few more pics. i said, "thank you." i then pulled out 100 baht for each boxer and they said no and pointed at a 1,000 baht bill in their hand as if to say that is the price. i refused, but then the guy who had my cellphone (value over $600) pointed to it as if to tell me i either pay or he was taking the phone. i was pissed, but realized my mistake was to not check the price in advance. so i have 1, 000 baht to the first boxer and then tried to get my phone and was told to pay the other one 1,000 baht also, which i did. before the guy working there would give me my phone he said i owed him 200 baht for taking the picture. so, i gave him the 200 baht and got back my phone. i was pissed off at being ripped off, but it was a good lesson learned. if you want to have a picture taken with someone there, ask them how much and don't let them have your phone. yes, i was stupid with this one. lesson learned.
ladyboys: while i am not a ladyboy customer myself, i am ok with people doing their business as they wish, however i will say that it seems to me that the number of ladyboys working alongside girls have seemed to dramatically increased since my last visit to pattaya a few years ago. while i was able to easily tell ladyboy from girl, it was annoying to me to find so many dispersed out among the girls in the beer bars and massage places.
bars: speaking of the bars, i found the quality of girls working in the beer bars to be significantly worse than in years past. now, i know many of you will find gems out there in those beer bars and chatting up some of those girls can be a great deal of fun, but i found better luck this time in an agogo bars and bars with a live band (down on walking street near the end of the road). my favorite agogo this time was the office. it is located soi lk metro near devil's den.
girls: it seemed like during this visit, i had more girls trying to get me to sponsor them. they all have their sad story to tell you and i genuinely felt sorry for them, but their story always seemed to end up with trying to get me to sponsor them so they don't have to work in the bars. my guess is many of the girls have multiple sponsors and still keep working in the bars. take care of your business, pay the girl for her time, and move on. unless you marry the girl and take her home with you, i doubt she will stop working in the bar for what you will send her no matter what it is.
massages: you can get a good massage all over town. the cheapest prices i found were 100 baht per hour for foot or thai massage and 200 for oil massage. in most places, you will find double that price which is fairly cheap. my suggestion is to choose an older, thin, but strong looking woman for a massage. if you want a hj or maybe bbj, you can choose the oil massage, however i did not have good experiences with this during this trip. i chose a younger, cute girl and she didn't want to do bj at all and her arm was weak and technique not good enough to take care of business. the older women, while not much to look at, have better technique and strength. for me, i just stuck with foot and regular thai massages with the older women. my last bit of advice is to beware of the bait and switch with massage therapists. don't be shy about asking for a specific girl and insisting on the one you want. remember, cute young women rarely give a good massage.
non-sex tourists: many tour groups (mostly koreans while i was there) are taking tour groups through walking street. they are taking pictures and videos of sex tourists and the girls. they also bring their young children, which i find disgusting. no kid belongs down there at midnight in my opinion. if you really cannot afford to have your picture taken and posted online while hanging out on walking street, you might want to spend time elsewhere. there is a lot to do all over town.
my next report will be about the girls i spent time with while in town.
[QUOTE=Nefarious; 1448472]I just recently returned from my third trip to Pattaya, and I found that I still have much to learn about how things work there. If you're planning a trip and don't consider yourself a true expert on Pattaya, I suggest you read every post made in the past few months in the Pattaya forum so you can be as prepared as possible. I do this before each trip, but even so there are a few things I must have missed or failed to pay attention to and it cost me while I was there. I am going to split my report into two parts. The first post will be about some general issues with taking a trip to Pattaya that might make your trip go a little more smoothly. If you're not interested in this, just skip to my next report which will be about the the girls.
Excellent post. Keep 'them coming. I think you made a good call on the taxi decision to not pay in advance. To do so is just asking to be ripped off and if that happened the response would add up to "tell someone who cares". The fake boxing ring is certainly worth a miss. Nearly 20 years ago it was located at the old version of Marine Disco and I found it somewhat believable, certainly entertaining. If I go in there now it's for the ladies, not the boxing and I do not tip the fighters when they come around with their hands out.
[QUOTE=Nefarious;1448472]Pictures with Muay Thai boxers: I fell victim to a bit of a scam while I was there, so I am posting this to help you avoid this. One night, I decided to watch some (fake as hell in my opinion) Muay Thai boxers on Walking Street. It was somewhat entertaining and I was having a pretty good time. I noticed that many tourists were getting a picture with the boxers, so I accepted the invitation of one of the boxers to have a picture with him. I did not ask a price because it seemed that the tourists were just giving some 100 baht bills as tips. One of the guys working there offered to take the picture. So, I jumped up in the ring and got my picture with one of the boxers and then another came over and jumped in for a few more pics. I said, "Thank you." I then pulled out 100 baht for each boxer and they said no and pointed at a 1,000 baht bill in their hand as if to say that is the price. I refused, but then the guy who had my cellphone (value over $600) pointed to it as if to tell me I either pay or he was taking the phone. I was pissed, but realized my mistake was to not check the price in advance. So I have 1, 000 baht to the first boxer and then tried to get my phone and was told to pay the other one 1,000 baht also, which I did. Before the guy working there would give me my phone he said I owed him 200 baht for taking the picture. So, I gave him the 200 baht and got back my phone. I was pissed off at being ripped off, but it was a good lesson learned. If you want to have a picture taken with someone there, ask them how much and don't let them have your phone. Yes, I was stupid with this one. Lesson learned.[/QUOTE]Horrible scam. Why you didn't got the Tourist Police, they probably would have negotiated it down for you. That is their job, make sure with some suasion the tourist is still separated from his money, but to a smaller extent.
[QUOTE=Nefarious;1448472]I just recently returned from my third trip to Pattaya, and I found that I still have much to learn about how things work there.My next report will be about the girls I spent time with while in town.[/QUOTE]A nicely done report, its link is in the RoD now, for newbies, and not only, to read and learn.
tonight is the first of two days of buddha celebration and all the bars, including go-go's on walkin street were brought to an almost complete shutdown. staff and girls packed up around 1 am and for sure they were relieved for being able to get some sleep or personal time. so for the second time in many weeks i had to tour beach road. the works make the entire thing even more squallid. women are ugly as usualy, except that there were less of them.
it seemed to me to have reached the bottom of my thailand stay, but instead of calling it a night i was in for another exquisite experience, as i spotted a good looking one in shorts, a slim petite with nice legs and a pretty face. i parked on the other side of the road and she realizes she had made a catch and calls me over. st request 700, to which i counter the standard 500 that which immediately accepted, after clarying she was a lady, and that in case of lt upgrade the deadline was to be 6am for her all-important temple visit. i was a little surprised, because her looks were just not normal for the place, and there were many men roaming around. so off we went but it was clear to me since the beginning that she was a cold, disinterested biatch with the name of pupee.
she barely smiled when i handed over a clean towel, and proceeded to the deed with the same passion of an oil changer. i have to give credit to her however for the short massage she gave, that could have been worth bt. 50 alone. uninspired bbbj, no kiss, and her moves were one grade below mechanic. when she mentioned for the third time "no kiss" (and i did not even tried or asked) , i had to remind her that i understood english before she had learned thai. as she mounts cowgirl the infamous "jep jep" words are immediately pronounced, albeit softly, together with other short thai phrases, that if i were able to understand would have probably warranted some abrasive response. somehow things did not went south further than that, and i proceeded to give the harderand longer pounding possible given the circumstances. as i came, she is in the bathroom faster than i could pull of the condom off my cock, when she came out i looked at her skinny legs and flat belly again, then spoke the conversation peak of the night:
you work in a go-go?
"yes", she goes.
which one, i feel compelled to ask.
"happy, but i do not work now, as i have got a motorbike accident".
oh really, and tell me, how much is it to bang you there?
"2000 bt. short time, there are rooms upstair".
good to know i say -while feeling a little sorry for the guys taken for that amount rather than a risible 500- well that's quite a bit of money, considering that you place zero feeling in what you do.
her reply, keeping a straight face, "oh but if i smoke i can boom-boom long time, and so the other ladies there".
i admitted her that i did never screwed a methead (at least one that was high), but could not find the necessary cynism to add that i could not care less about it.
in a totally pointless last act i ride her back to be beach, riding with a morbike taxi driver would have been more fun. as i drop her she doesn't even say bye, while looking already at her smartphone for the time, and the chances of pulling a further trick.
[quote=marcos; 1448907]tonight is the first of two days of buddha celebration and all the bars, including go-go's on walkin street were brought to an almost complete shutdown. staff and girls packed up around 1 am and for sure they were relieved for being able to get some sleep or personal time. so for the second time in many weeks i had to tour beach road. the works make the entire thing even more squallid. women are ugly as usualy, except that there were less of them.
it seemed to me to have reached the bottom of my thailand stay, but instead of calling it a night i was in for another exquisite experience, as i spotted a good looking one in shorts, a slim petite with nice legs and a pretty face. i parked on the other side of the road and she realizes she had made a catch and calls me over. st request 700, to which i counter the standard 500 that which immediately accepted, after clarying she was a lady, and that in case of lt upgrade the deadline was to be 6am for her all-important temple visit. i was a little surprised, because her looks were just not normal for the place, and there were many men roaming around. so off we went but it was clear to me since the beginning that she was a cold, disinterested biatch with the name of pupee...[/quote]a lesson in bargirl economics. is she really worth 2000 a session? at happy? or is she worth closer to the 500 she accepted from you?
theres this soi cow baccara girl i've been noticing. for some reason she is always on stage where she is fronting me, so i can have a good look. she stand out because she just isn't attractive. is she a 2500 baccara girl even if noone barfines her? or is she a 700 street girl? even on the street she wouldn't be a top strretwalker type. lol.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1448566]The fake boxing ring is certainly worth a miss. Nearly 20 years ago it was located at the old version of Marine Disco and I found it somewhat believable, certainly entertaining. If I go in there now it's for the ladies, not the boxing and I do not tip the fighters when they come around with their hands out.[/QUOTE]The big problem with Marine Disco is that the ring of 20 yrs ago is gone, but the ladies of the same vintage are still hanging there.
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1448907]So for the second time in many weeks I had to tour Beach Road. I spotted a good looking one in shorts, a slim petite with nice legs and a pretty face. I parked on the other side of the road and she realizes she had made a catch and calls me over. ST request 700, to which I counter the standard 500 that which immediately accepted,
As I came, she is in the bathroom faster than I could pull of the condom off my cock, when she came out I looked at her skinny legs and flat belly again, then spoke the conversation peak of the night:
You work in a go-go?
"Yes", she goes.
Which one, I feel compelled to ask.
"Happy, but I do not work now, as I have got a motorbike accident".
Oh really, and tell me, how much is it to bang you there?
"2000 Bt. Short time, there are rooms upstair".[/QUOTE]Sorry you had to get mixed up with a dope fiend. But as many of us have always said, you can find the same girls from the bars and gogos on Beach Road and in the discos for much less. You have now seen first hand that the statements have not been old wives' tales.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1449013]Sorry you had to get mixed up with a dope fiend. But as many of us have always said, you can find the same girls from the bars and gogos on Beach Road and in the discos for much less. You have now seen first hand that the statements have not been old wives' tales.[/QUOTE]Heheh I know that very good, the idea was to describe an unlucky monger's Buddha nigth. Hope it wasn't a story too boring. Anyway, today I got a big surprise from my Isaan beloved multiorgasmic beauty. In an interesting new developement she showed up again and I'm now her secret lover. I won't add more details as one never knows who reads this board, but I should be all set for the time being.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1449131]Heheh I know that very good, the idea was to describe an unlucky monger's Buddha nigth. Hope it wasn't a story too boring. Anyway, today I got a big surprise from my Isaan beloved multiorgasmic beauty. In an interesting new developement she showed up again and I'm now her secret lover. I won't add more details as one never knows who reads this board, but I should be all set for the time being.[/QUOTE]If it is one of my girls, then I will get extremely angry and I will put sugar in your motorbikes fueltank, haha.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1449148]If it is one of my girls, then I will get extremely angry and I will put sugar in your motorbikes fueltank, haha.[/QUOTE]Can't be, she's below your minimum income limit :-;
[QUOTE=Marcos;1449587]Can't be, she's below your minimum income limit :-;[/QUOTE]I can not see anything that says she is pregnant!
Therefore she is definitely NOT a Skogis girl!
Hotman.