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[QUOTE=RockyV;2569367]We know, mate! Your ideal FKK club is where you are the only customer and where the girls don't have pimps, have never worked in Dubai and are all fresh, beautiful and virgin.[/QUOTE]This is so spot on, I want to frame it and give it to him as a gift.
[QUOTE=RockyV;2569367]We know, mate! Your ideal FKK club is where you are the only customer and where the girls don't have pimps, have never worked in Dubai and are all fresh, beautiful and virgin.[/QUOTE]Not virgin I let you be the first one.
[QUOTE=RockyV;2569367]We know, mate! Your ideal FKK club is where you are the only customer and where the girls don't have pimps, have never worked in Dubai and are all fresh, beautiful and virgin.[/QUOTE]Where is it?
Does it help if they only tell him they have no pimps, are beautiful, virgins and never worked in Dubai?
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2569399]Not virgin I let you be the first one.[/QUOTE]What an honour! LOL.
[QUOTE=RockyV;2569336]MrHo,
Get yourself vaccinated and fly over to Berlin for your 'humanitarian help'! LOL.
Great news about this reopening! The other big ones should not be far from their grand re-opening![/QUOTE]Kennan is back! Well I hope there is no owner change!
Yeah, I will come once it is all green light and no mask thing is obligatory in FKK, I need to look at girls face to avoid gutted situation in room once she take off her mask LOL It is almost as you take girl to a room and find out she has a penis if she take off mask and she is ugly LOL! And I don't need take off your mask please and she says extra 50 euro LOL!
[QUOTE=AgentNash;2569309]Artemis will be open Friday 18 June 21 for all those who have been tested or vaccinated and those who have recovered.[/QUOTE]I hope Artemis at least offer free test upon entry if they enforce customers to show negative test result!
Can also just get infected and recover in time. No problem. LOL.
A small bump on the road to full re-opening. Artemis will now reopen on the 30 June.
[QUOTE=RockyV;2569632]A small bump on the road to full re-opening. Artemis will now reopen on the 30 June.[/QUOTE]It's not looking good for Hessen.
[QUOTE=RockyV;2569632]A small bump on the road to full re-opening. Artemis will now reopen on the 30 June.[/QUOTE]This is what I meant for flying monger ending up in hotel room with free WIFI, pc and his right hand LOL!
Good news for local, may not be wise for fly into travel as flying monger may turn into flying wanker LOL!
[QUOTE=MrHo;2569798]This is what I meant for flying monger ending up in hotel room with free WIFI, pc and his right hand LOL!
Good news for local, may not be wise for fly into travel as flying monger may turn into flying wanker LOL![/QUOTE]We all know that mutants are around but I still believe that before end of September at the worst there will be no risk to book a flight to Europe but there is still a risk to get sick in closed places like FKK but some mongers follow the regulations even they are not strict enough other including me are more careful.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2569329]I give you my place, I don't like Artemis and will not visit a FKK before several months, too many desperate guys around I pass my turn.[/QUOTE]I agree here.
I will not visit until at least September, if still open.
[QUOTE=RockyV;2569632]A small bump on the road to full re-opening. Artemis will now reopen on the 30 June.[/QUOTE]All of Germany look consistently improving and promising, so fingers croosed it will stay that way.
I had hoped to be able to drop into Artemis on an upcoming business trip through Berlin (and do a stopover) for some much needed mongering. But seems I won't be so lucky in June, so will have to reschedule my appointment with the girls in Artemis to the end of July on my next trip. Maybe the will manage to have a good lineup waiting by then.
Still can't wait.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2569897]We all know that mutants are around but I still believe that before end of September at the worst there will be no risk to book a flight to Europe but there is still a risk to get sick in closed places like FKK but some mongers follow the regulations even they are not strict enough other including me are more careful.[/QUOTE]They delay the opening of artemis I read though.
It's a pity they closed down Tegel.
Now it is a long ride on S-bahn to get from Brandenburg to Westkreuz.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2569897]We all know that mutants are around but I still believe that before end of September at the worst there will be no risk to book a flight to Europe but there is still a risk to get sick in closed places like FKK but some mongers follow the regulations even they are not strict enough other including me are more careful.[/QUOTE]I would say summer is safer than winter as winter tend to increase the risk of infection disease especially related to virus!
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2571716]It's a pity they closed down Tegel.
Now it is a long ride on S-bahn to get from Brandenburg to Westkreuz.[/QUOTE]I fully agree!
But, we did get 10 years of "bonus" time due to all delays of the BER opening.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2569897]We all know that mutants are around but I still believe that before end of September at the worst there will be no risk to book a flight to Europe but there is still a risk to get sick in closed places like FKK but some mongers follow the regulations even they are not strict enough other including me are more careful.[/QUOTE]All people should be careful of course, but not let it flip into paranoia. There is risk in everything. But at current infection rates, the risk of getting covid and getting into a car accident in Berlin arent much different. A lot less if you're fully vaccinated. And if you are, then you have practically zero risk of getting sick if do get it even so.
The regulations reflect this and are proportionally measured. If not, then we should have banned smoking, driving, taking elevators, drinking alcohol, sailing, singing, fitness, rollercoasters etc etc etc.
Not a world you would live in.
[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2573486]All people should be careful of course, but not let it flip into paranoia. There is risk in everything. But at current infection rates, the risk of getting covid and getting into a car accident in Berlin arent much different. A lot less if you're fully vaccinated. And if you are, then you have practically zero risk of getting sick if do get it even so.
The regulations reflect this and are proportionally measured. If not, then we should have banned smoking, driving, taking elevators, drinking alcohol, sailing, singing, fitness, rollercoasters etc etc etc.
Not a world you would live in.[/QUOTE]What you say is true in normal life but not when you visit a FKK, there you cumulate many risks, no air renewal, close contact with people who don t care about their health and the covid or they will not be there.
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2571716]It's a pity they closed down Tegel.
Now it is a long ride on S-bahn to get from Brandenburg to Westkreuz.[/QUOTE]No, it's a pity the Green-Red Eco-Marxists closed down Tempelhof, where somebody could fly Brussels-Berlin or Zurich-Berlin and land almost in the middle of the city! LOL!
Had to google where the 'new' airport is located, just to find out that Schönefeld airport is a small part of the new Brandenburh airport. I can tell you it's about €45 with taxi for those of you who is interested! Have done that trip many times in the past!! LOL.
But for those of you who are more economic thinking than me, there are also train as an cheaper alternative transportation. Really hope this BS is over now so we can go back to normal again, FKK is something I really miss ans especially Artemis and Berlin.
Back in the days, I could fly to Berlin through TXL in less than 2 hrs. Then when I had left Tegek, 30 min after I was in the Art.
I'm not sure I'll come back soon with the upgrade of the admission fees, and health issue due to the diversity of the others customers.
I prefer the "wait & see" policy.
Anyway! Today is the the day for the reopening, I miss the German girls with big ass.
No reports?
I want to know everything!
What's new, what's the rules inside now?
Prices?
The girls?
New ones or same same like before?
[QUOTE=HDN2015;2574759]Back in the days, I could fly to Berlin through TXL in less than 2 hrs. Then when I had left Tegek, 30 min after I was in the Art.
I'm not sure I'll come back soon with the upgrade of the admission fees, and health issue due to the diversity of the others customers.
I prefer the "wait & see" policy.[/QUOTE]It is a very good and clever decision to take in account the different info's around, balance the things and taking the best decision for you. Others just want the life from before comes back, they are not able to understand that the things have changed. Their life is controlled by their small dick, they just want to fuck prostitutes at any costs despite the health risks, they just ignore the reality or say the reality doesn't exist.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2575827]It is a very good and clever decision to take in account the different info's around, balance the things and taking the best decision for you. Others just want the life from before comes back, they are not able to understand that the things have changed. Their life is controlled by their small dick, they just want to fuck prostitutes at any costs despite the health risks, they just ignore the reality or say the reality doesn't exist.[/QUOTE]Life controlled by a dick, life controlled by a virus, the level of madness isn't so much different here. But the complete insane ones want to control a virus, want to control the citizens, are screaming for "protection" just to be safe, following motherfucking government instead of raging against them. How damaged a brain could be? Definitely too much pee in the pants from all the fear.
Germany:
11.500 active cases (all in all currently 0. 014% of the citizens).
3. 730.353 cases since they started to count. RKI said the dark figure could be three times higher, so easily 10 million "infections", but only 91.023 deaths. So the death rate is under one percent. The covid death were usually old, very old. Old people are dying sooner or later and this will never change, even if the complete insane ones don't want to accept.
Catching Corona and dying because of it is very difficult and this is the reality.
BTW, not everybody who goes to a club, is going there to fuck prostitutes. Some just hang around or only talk in a room.
Once I met a guy, Arabian gang member, fully tattooed, gold chains, he only went with his boys to the club to hide his homosexuality! Yeah really, what a fox. Same for Frank the cop. Married, two children but completely gay. He only went there with his Nazi cop colleagues to hide his thing for hairy male buttholes or to shower with them, can't remember exactly.
Working for a motherfucking corrupt government should be way more risky for the health, than clubbing a bit.
So don't forget to open the windows regularly while staying at home, fresh air and so, but keep wearing a mask, because you never know what is flying into your cell. And be very careful, the most accidents happen at home!
[QUOTE=MRPleasures;2575728]No reports?
I want to know everything!
What's new, what's the rules inside now?
Prices?
The girls?
New ones or same same like before?[/QUOTE]No report.
I know enough, some say too much.
Artemis have always something new, must be the consultant agency.
Should be like everywhere, access only for the "Gee's" ("Gaccinated" "Gecovered" and "Gested" Right now all the German clubs are forced to discriminate people. People who are not negative tested, vaccinated or officially recovered are treated like they are carrying a super deadly virus and want to murder someone else. Call the ambulance, for those who are making such rules and ignoring the real numbers.
70 euro for 30 minutes last autumn. Talk with Frank the Nazi cop about the service you can expect. 90 euro for the entry fee, plus all your data, just for the protection. If on offer, 10 euro for a Bier.
Girls? Over 18, age wise and in numbers. New old girls and old new girls with different hair color and / or cut. Just love them and save your hate for the motherfucking government, for everyone who is working in one way or another for the motherfucking government and for everyone who is supporting the motherfucking German, Berlin and World government.
[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2576125]No report.
I know enough, some say too much.
Artemis have always something new, must be the consultant agency.
Should be like everywhere, access only for the "Gee's" ("Gaccinated" "Gecovered" and "Gested" Right now all the German clubs are forced to discriminate people. People who are not negative tested, vaccinated or officially recovered are treated like they are carrying a super deadly virus and want to murder someone else. Call the ambulance, for those who are making such rules and ignoring the real numbers.
70 euro for 30 minutes last autumn. Talk with Frank the Nazi cop about the service you can expect. 90 euro for the entry fee, plus all your data, just for the protection. If on offer, 10 euro for a Bier.
Girls? Over 18, age wise and in numbers. New old girls and old new girls with different hair color and / or cut. Just love them and save your hate for the motherfucking government, for everyone who is working in one way or another for the motherfucking government and for everyone who is supporting the motherfucking German, Berlin and World government.[/QUOTE]Hi,
This doesn't answer the questions of MRPleasures. What does it means the G letter before all conditions "Gaccinated. " does it means only German people or what? I'll be in Berlin next Sunday and I will do a big report but it will be helpful if someone who really been there these last days could tell us some new. Regards!
[QUOTE=Ramsiss;2576674]What does it means the G letter before all conditions "Gaccinated. " does it means only German people or what? [/QUOTE]The slogan in Germany right now is "Geimpft, Genesen oder Getestet" which means "Vaccinated, Recovered or Tested". Those are the three criteria to get into the country (fulfill one of them) and have access to all sorts of things. Because they all three start with a G (most past participles in German do! They are called the three "GS". Germany actually asks you to be fully vaccinated 15 days before entry. Also, you have to wear an FFP2 mask indoors, shops etc. Have fun.
[QUOTE=Ramsiss;2576674]This doesn't answer the questions of MRPleasures[/QUOTE]
Understatement of year.
[QUOTE]it will be helpful if someone who really been there these last days could tell us some new. Regards![/QUOTE] Locals report not many girls (30 or so), many more men's. July through mid Aug always quieter. Then of course we have added "Delta" fun.
Am retired but really doubt it is worth it right now-many local indies or private bordellos better value, more private, less risk. See ISG Berlin thread. Keep expectations low, go by afternoon in case too full at night, enjoy pool.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2577145]Keep expectations low.[/QUOTE]I agree, furthermore I won't see the difference between a half hour sex of 60 VS 70.
I have the feeling the management is probably try to make a customer selection through the money level.
Here the questions again.
[QUOTE=MRPleasures;2575728]No reports?
I want to know everything!
What's new, what's the rules inside now?
Prices?
The girls?
New ones or same same like before?[/QUOTE]Here some parts of my response.
[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2576125]No report.
I know enough, some say too much.
Artemis have always something new, must be the consultant agency.
Should be like everywhere, access only for the "Gee's" ("Gaccinated" "Gecovered" and "Gested" Right now all the German clubs are forced to discriminate people. People who are not negative tested, vaccinated or officially recovered are treated like they are carrying a super deadly virus and want to murder someone else. Call the ambulance, for those who are making such rules and ignoring the real numbers.
70 euro for 30 minutes last autumn. Talk with Frank the Nazi cop about the service you can expect. 90 euro for the entry fee, plus all your data, just for the protection. If on offer, 10 euro for a Bier...[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Ramsiss;2576674]Hi,
This doesn't answer the questions of MRPleasures. What does it means the G letter before all conditions "Gaccinated. " does it means only German people or what? I'll be in Berlin next Sunday and I will do a big report but it will be helpful if someone who really been there these last days could tell us some new. Regards![/QUOTE]"This doesn't answer the questions of MRPleasures."
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2577145]Understatement of year.
...[/QUOTE]Noodle Ninja again. Sei froh das Admin 3 sich regelmig fuer den Tier und Artenschutz einsetzen muss und deshalb die Wahrheit zensiert. See Berlin thread and now back in your tank!
I guess I was giving at least an answer for the price and in some kind of way for the girls question.
[QUOTE=DioRetz;2576753]The slogan in Germany right now is "Geimpft, Genesen oder Getestet" which means "Vaccinated, Recovered or Tested". Those are the three criteria to get into the country (fulfill one of them) and have access to all sorts of things. Because they all three start with a G (most past participles in German do! They are called the three "GS". Germany actually asks you to be fully vaccinated 15 days before entry. Also, you have to wear an FFP2 mask indoors, shops etc. Have fun.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Dio was feeling me, a real "Gee" . Check him Ramsiss.
But I guess the FFP2 is since 2 or 3 days only mandatory in public transport. For shops is a ordinary "medical mask" enough at the moment. But changes are quick. Personally I recommend to discuss it with Coronapolice. Everybody should also be aware of 2 cops in one car who don't wear masks, they are violating their own rules! Because even vaccinated people still have to wear masks. Wired again.
[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2577760]"This doesn't answer the questions of MRPleasures."
I guess I was giving at least an answer for the price and in some kind of way for the girls question.
[/QUOTE]You are right Sorry PumpDiPump I didn't understand all you message before but now I understand the 3 Gees Thanks to the explanation of "NookyNinja " which in German like ed at end of the regular verbs in English.
The price you mentioned was for last year, how about this July 2021?
Next Sunday I will in Berlin and of course I will do a visit to Artemis and will post here my impression, hope positive.
[QUOTE=MRPleasures;2575728]No reports?
I want to know everything!
What's new, what's the rules inside now?
Prices?
The girls?
New ones or same same like before?[/QUOTE]Visited this Sunday.
A security man on the external door, smiling he checks for one of the 3 Gees. I had the -ve Test on my mobile and he lets me in without any problem after giving me a small module to write my name, surname and email, asked me to leave this module in the reception when I go out.
On the reception 90 for entrance + 1 for a FFP2 Mask to wear everywhere inside except when sitting, on bar or sauna.
Menu:
70 for standard 30 min.
20 for BBJ.
50 for CIM.
100 for GREEK.
Girls are same as before, some was new and good quality.
I was there from 1 PM to 3 AM, best time was until midnight because after that there ware a huge number of very young local guys came in group (Turkish and Arab young guy).
I was told that Saturday was also full of these local guy, luckily I've enjoyed 4 sessions with 4 girls this Sunday before midnight.
Globally I was satisfied and I'll back again soon always in Sunday or midweek, never to be there on Saturday.
[QUOTE=Ramsiss;2579798]Visited this Sunday.
A security man on the external door, smiling he checks for one of the 3 Gees. I had the -ve Test on my mobile and he lets me in without any problem after giving me a small module to write my name, surname and email, asked me to leave this module in the reception when I go out.
On the reception 90 for entrance + 1 for a FFP2 Mask to wear everywhere inside except when sitting, on bar or sauna.
Menu:
70 for standard 30 min.
20 for BBJ.
50 for CIM.
100 for GREEK.
Girls are same as before, some was new and good quality.
I was there from 1 PM to 3 AM, best time was until midnight because after that there ware a huge number of very young local guys came in group (Turkish and Arab young guy).
I was told that Saturday was also full of these local guy, luckily I've enjoyed 4 sessions with 4 girls this Sunday before midnight.
Globally I was satisfied and I'll back again soon always in Sunday or midweek, never to be there on Saturday.[/QUOTE]Can you give us some more information? How many girls would you say there were? Was the whole building with all amenities open? Which were some of the girls that you saw? Would you say Artemis looks like pre-covid now? Did you have to wear facemask during sex? Do the girls wear facemask?
[QUOTE=Ramsiss;2579798]....
20 for BBJ.....[/QUOTE]EUR20 for BBBJ? I hope this is not a trend.
[QUOTE=Ramsiss;2579798]Visited this Sunday.
A security man on the external door, smiling he checks for one of the 3 Gees. I had the -ve Test on my mobile and he lets me in without any problem after giving me a small module to write my name, surname and email, asked me to leave this module in the reception when I go out.
On the reception 90 for entrance + 1 for a FFP2 Mask to wear everywhere inside except when sitting, on bar or sauna.
Menu:
70 for standard 30 min.
20 for BBJ.
50 for CIM.
100 for GREEK.
Girls are same as before, some was new and good quality.[/QUOTE]I'm not pleased with this news. I'm not pleased with this pricing or the optics quality (same girls) at all! Only Lilia pleased me all the way around last time.
[QUOTE=DarkNumber;2579968]Can you give us some more information? How many girls would you say there were? Was the whole building with all amenities open? Which were some of the girls that you saw? Would you say Artemis looks like pre-covid now? Did you have to wear facemask during sex? Do the girls wear facemask?[/QUOTE]Normally I use my own "Girl-counter-Meter" to know if girls are to many with respect to men or vice versa. To test, I go to the cinema in the ground floor stay there for a while and if within 30 min I don't see any girl coming there to ask for sex I understand that this is the wrong day and there are a lot of men more than girls. If instead every 5 min you see a girl this means that girls are so many w. Are. T men.
In that day I have had a luck because in 10 min I saw a about 4 different girls coming to ask me to have sex and I say that I already done a few min ago.
The bar upstairs was full of girl, almost 1 girl to 1 men. But after midnight the the scenario changed with the attack of young local guys (Turkish-Arabic), I was in the sauna hall and suddenly it was full. But from 1 PM to midnight it was OK.
I dare say there were about 30 to 40 girls from different countries Rumanians, Greek, Rep-Check, sud America, German. 70% are old Artemis the rest are new and good quality.
The whole building with all amenities were open included the external swimming pool.
Artemis looks like pre-covid now exactly except for the Mask wearing which is mandatory only while moving or walking but when sitting on the swimming pool, in sauna, in bar or even in cinema you can remove. Of course also during sex is removed. I repeat only while moving between the amenities. For all Me, girls or Artemis employers.
To enjoy as before avoid being there Saturday or after midnight. Try to go early from 11 AM to enjoy the sauna, swimming pool and all girls for you without rush. Best day is Wednesday and Sunday.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2580001]I'm not pleased with this news. I'm not pleased with this pricing or the optics quality (same girls) at all! Only Lilia pleased me all the way around last time.[/QUOTE]Extra Prices are the same as pre-covid, the standard 30 min is 10 more.
Lilia, you mean the German girl from Hamburg? If so I agree she is the best and I was told she will be back next week.
[QUOTE=Ramsiss;2580068]Artemis looks like pre-covid now exactly except for the Mask wearing which is mandatory only while moving or walking but when sitting on the swimming pool, in sauna, in bar or even in cinema you can remove. Of course also during sex is removed. [/QUOTE]Hahaha, so during close bodily contact and physical activity you can remove the mask, but when walking around (spending a few seconds in close / er proximity to someone else) you need to wear a face rag? Hahaha. You can't fix stupid neo-communist rules! (Berlin is ruled by a Red-Red-Green coalition of SPD Socialists, former SED Party (DDR) members called Die Linke and Greens.
[QUOTE=Ramsiss;2580068]Normally I use my own "Girl-counter-Meter" to know if girls are to many with respect to men or vice versa. To test, I go to the cinema in the ground floor stay there for a while and if within 30 min I don't see any girl coming there to ask for sex I understand that this is the wrong day and there are a lot of men more than girls. If instead every 5 min you see a girl this means that girls are so many w. Are. T men.
I dare say there were about 30 to 40 girls from different countries Rumanians, Greek, Rep-Check, sud America, German. 70% are old Artemis the .[/QUOTE]Facts.
I remember one night, I was reading a book in the ground bar, when I saw 2 German women who used to stay upstairs, came for asking sex. They told me it wasn't a good night at that moment.
I haven't met czckies or Greek girls in Art. That à good news.
Maybe next year I'll drop by to that place.
I really like the diversity of backgrounds. I hope there will be less Romies and more other types of European or African styles.
[QUOTE=Ramsiss;2579798]Visited this Sunday.
...
Menu:
70 for standard 30 min.
20 for BBJ.
50 for CIM.[/QUOTE]You're welcome Ramsi, nice report, thanks, I enjoyed reading. And I have a trolling nerd question: Is the BBJ included in the CIM or is the CIM price all in all in the end 70 euro extra (20 + 50) ?
I just want to know how many empty bottles I have to collect because my sparebook is empty, sometimes I also shoot from the far, contactless, you know.
[QUOTE=Ramsiss;2579798]Visited this Sunday.
...
I was there from 1 PM to 3 AM, best time was until midnight because after that there ware a huge number of very young local guys came in group (Turkish and Arab young guy).
I was told that Saturday was also full of these local guy..[/QUOTE]On another board I read some of them are "Teachers, doctors, personnel managers of large companies, agricultural professors, pilots, even a cruise captain".
But since it was Sunday, maybe also CharlieCab drivers who only pay 50 for entry.
These crews are very useful in every German club to turn a lot of dirty towels in cleaner towels.
And another question, because it is maybe the best in Artemis, do they still have the "four legend bandit" , the girls best friend?
[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2580135]Hahaha, so during close bodily contact and physical activity you can remove the mask, but when walking around (spending a few seconds in close / er proximity to someone else) you need to wear a face rag? Hahaha. You can't fix stupid neo-communist rules! (Berlin is ruled by a Red-Red-Green coalition of SPD Socialists, former SED Party (DDR) members called Die Linke and Greens.[/QUOTE]LOL, I also wondered how the girls suck cock with FFP2 in the face. But it's all about health in Germany. Corona rules keeping people alive in Sexclubs. Please do the vaccine! Show responsibility! Protect yourself and other people! Corona is not over, ask the vaccinated mongers!
Bavaria is ruled by CSU, their Clubs are completely closed. Bavarians call CSU president Markus "Soedolf" , a change of the name Adolf Hitler.
People in Germany should vote in upcoming autumn when they have nationwide elections definitely AFD, the Rights. AFD was the first political party in Germany who wanted to open the shisha bars, who wanted to have normal open boarders and who wanted that muslima don't have to wear a mask under the burka. They just don't said it!
There is no more traditional "left" and "right" in Germany when it comes to Corona. It is a system, fake democracy.
[QUOTE=Ramsiss;2579798]Visited this Sunday.
A security man on the external door, smiling he checks for one of the 3 Gees. I had the -ve Test on my mobile and he lets me in without any problem after giving me a small module to write my name, surname and email, asked me to leave this module in the reception when I go out.
On the reception 90 for entrance + 1 for a FFP2 Mask to wear everywhere inside except when sitting, on bar or sauna.
Menu:
70 for standard 30 min.
20 for BBJ.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for reporting.
Regarding prices, this means there are 180 Euros for basic 30 min session with BBJ (90 for entrance and then 70 + 20 to the girl).
For the same amount you can get a nice escort to your home or to your hotel.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2580001]I'm not pleased with this news. I'm not pleased with this pricing or the optics quality (same girls) at all! Only Lilia pleased me all the way around last time.[/QUOTE]So Artemis used covid-19 as an excuse for raising price by 10 euro more on entrance and standard session LOL! It is 10 euro raise per 30 min, so one hour is 20 euro and so on LOL!
It might attract more young stunner girls to come though as where the money is, where the stunners goes, and Artemis now is the most expensive club in Germany! Maybe they also raised entry on girls too though as they pay to enter too! More than guys!
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2580266]Regarding prices, this means there are 180 Euros for basic 30 min session with BBJ (90 for entrance and then 70 + 20 to the girl).
For the same amount you can get a nice escort to your home or to your hotel.[/QUOTE]Yes, but it worth the effort because you have all the amenities at your disposal including, Swimming pool, sauna, food and drinks all for free. Also you can select any girl you like between more than 30 girls while with escort you never know what you will get in Hotel. In Artemis I have normally a couple of girls I always have a long session one hour with all inclusive and GFE, the Greek girl gave me GFE with all the options for one hour 310 Euro (BBJ, CIM, GREEK, GFE. All) with an escort I never get this experience and normally they get paid at least 150 for 30 minutes.
[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2580192] Is the BBJ included in the CIM or is the CIM price all in all in the end 70 euro extra (20 + 50) ?
I just want to know how many empty bottles I have to collect because my sparebook is empty, sometimes I also shoot from the far, contactless, you know.
On another board I read some of them are "Teachers, doctors, personnel managers of large companies, agricultural professors, pilots, even a cruise captain".
But since it was Sunday, maybe also CharlieCab drivers who only pay 50 for entry.
These crews are very useful in every German club to turn a lot of dirty towels in cleaner towels.
And another question, because it is maybe the best in Artemis, do they still have the "four legend bandit" , the girls best friend?[/QUOTE]The standard is 70 Euro for 30 min if you want to do all covered.
If you want only BBJ so you pay 70 + 20, if you are very clever and you can do the CIM contactless shooting on the her face on hand or you can do BBJ then cover and continue with sex so this option is ok for you.
If you want CIM you must pay 70 + 20 for BBJ + 50 CIM.
If you want all you must pay 70 + 20 + 50 +100 .
[QUOTE=Ramsiss;2581944]The standard is 70 Euro for 30 min if you want to do all covered.
If you want only BBJ so you pay 70 + 20, if you are very clever and you can do the CIM contactless shooting on the her face on hand or you can do BBJ then cover and continue with sex so this option is ok for you.
If you want CIM you must pay 70 + 20 for BBJ + 50 CIM.
If you want all you must pay 70 + 20 + 50 +100 .[/QUOTE]If the service is controlled like Globe Zurich, then I do not mind 10 euro raise for entrance and 30 min session, but be sure to raise service like globe Zurich!
Now everybody, when in Artemis, tell that to Kenna the owner LOL! If everyone tell him that and also to the manager, it may make some difference with the service level of girls in Artemis LOL!
[QUOTE=MrHo;2582258]If the service is controlled like Globe Zurich, then I do not mind 10 euro raise for entrance and 30 min session, but be sure to raise service like globe Zurich!
Now everybody, when in Artemis, tell that to Kenna the owner LOL! If everyone tell him that and also to the manager, it may make some difference with the service level of girls in Artemis LOL![/QUOTE]I have been to Artemis recently on a Thursday. Ramsiss story is quite alright. But after 9 years or so I do not think I will return anymore. The big catch in Artemis for me always was that there was at least one splendid session. Sometimes two. The last three or four times that has not been the case anymore. Actually it didn't go down after the raid a few years ago but after the new law. You can pay extra for BBBJ but service has gone down. More details on this last visit: fewer girls but average beauty has gone up. The Artemis vibe is not there as there are not enough girls to make your head spin. Girls ask for extras like they always do. Girls try to do minimal service like they always do. Some girls have superior skills, some not so much. What is new? The last few years I liked especially Samya better. That will be my next stop. Oh, and for her fans: Raissa is there. Session was OK.
[QUOTE=DioRetz;2582442]I have been to Artemis recently on a Thursday. Ramsiss story is quite alright. But after 9 years or so I do not think I will return anymore. The big catch in Artemis for me always was that there was at least one splendid session. Sometimes two. The last three or four times that has not been the case anymore. Actually it didn't go down after the raid a few years ago but after the new law. You can pay extra for BBBJ but service has gone down. More details on this last visit: fewer girls but average beauty has gone up. The Artemis vibe is not there as there are not enough girls to make your head spin. Girls ask for extras like they always do. Girls try to do minimal service like they always do. Some girls have superior skills, some not so much. What is new? The last few years I liked especially Samya better. That will be my next stop. Oh, and for her fans: Raissa is there. Session was OK.[/QUOTE]I found Artemis in 2009 and I stopped going in around 2016 ish as line up quality went down, but I returned in 2019 September and the line up was pretty good then, and service was good. But I pay 150 euro for one hour, but with mild upsell, the session was good for me, but yeah I agree that is it is not what it used to be back in early 2010's for quality of line up, but Artemis has always been upsell club, though now it maybe out of control! In 2019,150 euro per one hour got me far though!
[QUOTE=Ramsiss;2581944]The standard is 70 Euro for 30 min if you want to do all covered.
If you want only BBJ so you pay 70 + 20, if you are very clever and you can do the CIM contactless shooting on the her face on hand or you can do BBJ then cover and continue with sex so this option is ok for you.
If you want CIM you must pay 70 + 20 for BBJ + 50 CIM.
If you want all you must pay 70 + 20 + 50 +100 .[/QUOTE]Only a fool pays 20 + 50 for BBJ and CIM.
If you pay 50 for CIM then of course BBJ is included.
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2583274]Only a fool pays 20 + 50 for BBJ and CIM.
If you pay 50 for CIM then of course BBJ is included.[/QUOTE]I can hear Spanish girl and Italian girl saying with Romanian accent something like, baby for 50 euro, I blow you with condom and you take it off before you cum and cum in my mouth, but without putting your bare penis in my mouth LOL!
If so, get your self to the reception LOL!
Arrived 4 pm. I was allowed to enter with a negative antigen test (27 h old) and didn't have to show any ID. I wasn't allowed to use the standard light-blue mask most people wear but instead I had to use a FP2 mask which was available for purchase at the counter for 1 Euro. Had to fill in a form with my contact details and later on hand it over when I leave.
There were about 15 girls and 20-25 guys. All girls were skinny, very few had fake boobs and none had big asses.
Had my eyes on two blondes sitting by the main bar who were chatting with each other. I initially wanted the girl with the medium fake boobs but after observing her for a few minutes her body language put me off. As soon as she left, I took her place and chatted with the other girl, Anja from Germany. Prettiest face of all the girls there. Not my type body wise (I like them thick waist down) but that face was a 9. Started with a nice sensual "GFE" BJ, then doggy and then back to BJ with a nice finale.
Headed to the outdoors pool area and relaxed for a while. No girls were there which I thought was weird but a girl later explained that the girls won't go to the outdoors area if it's not warm enough outside (it was 25 degrees Celsius outside, albeit a little windy). Two drunk older men who had a cabana and bottle service were trying to encourage all 10 guys by the pool to jump in for a sausage fest but only a few joined. They even managed to find a girl passing by and they threw her in the pool hahaha.
Left the outdoor circus and headed to the main bar. Noticed a new blondie with pouty lips that looked great. I called her over to my couch and chatted with her for a short while before taking her upstairs. Lydia from Romania. Those DSL's (dick sucking lips) were nice and soft but unfortunately, her crooked teeth on my dick was not super pleasant. Switched to doggy, her on top and then another nice finale. She reminded me of [URL]https://www.pornhub.com/pornstar/bridgette-b[/URL].
Both girls provided great service with no upselling or complaining about putting your hands on the back of their head as they blow you.
Went to the pool downstairs, as I wanted some peace and quiet. Saw a black haired girl with tattoos on her big ass cheeks and was very tempted to do another session but I had to leave in 20 min so I cried internally for a few minutes and then left. As I left at 7 pm, I saw more girls arriving.
I could see myself returning but not arrive before 7 pm.
I was not sure of how this would be in Artemis, reading posts about upsell and fooled guys. Well. It helps to be experienced and don't be fooled into a room. I was there this week, I didn't count the girls or the men, but it was fairly quiet when I compare it to my other visits. I ended up with to great sessions, I belive because of just holding back and just don't go with a girl because she say "Hi" I didn't find any of the girls pushy at all, but I turned down a lot of girls because I didn't feel the chemistry at all. One of the girls I went with (me and names, can't remember) was the best experience I've ever had in any club. She was a little older, 37 she told me and was darked haired, natural boobs and a medium body. One of the few girls there with natural boobs.
As for pricing, I've paid 160 for an hour, BBBJ included. Going to Artemis is not cheap, but I prefer a FKK before a brothel any time, because you can use a lot of time to pick your girl, and don't just have five seconds to decide. I'm not sure if I prefer Sharks or Artemis, I've haven't been to Sharks in 2021 - but I think that the bar in Artemis is small, smokefull and dark. It's better downstairs, but no girls are there. Either way, I do hope the ease of travelling will return to 2019 level and the next trip will probably be longer south in Germany.
[QUOTE=Miller75;2590045]I was not sure of how this would be in Artemis, reading posts about upsell and fooled guys. Well. It helps to be experienced and don't be fooled into a room. I was there this week, I didn't count the girls or the men, but it was fairly quiet when I compare it to my other visits. I ended up with to great sessions, I belive because of just holding back and just don't go with a girl because she say "Hi" I didn't find any of the girls pushy at all, but I turned down a lot of girls because I didn't feel the chemistry at all. One of the girls I went with (me and names, can't remember) was the best experience I've ever had in any club. She was a little older, 37 she told me and was darked haired, natural boobs and a medium body. One of the few girls there with natural boobs.
As for pricing, I've paid 160 for an hour, BBBJ included. Going to Artemis is not cheap, but I prefer a FKK before a brothel any time, because you can use a lot of time to pick your girl, and don't just have five seconds to decide. I'm not sure if I prefer Sharks or Artemis, I've haven't been to Sharks in 2021 - but I think that the bar in Artemis is small, smokefull and dark. It's better downstairs, but no girls are there. Either way, I do hope the ease of travelling will return to 2019 level and the next trip will probably be longer south in Germany.[/QUOTE]Tanks for your report man!
What weekday were you there?
Can anyone who has gone recently say if it's worth the trip? 90 E entry is very steep especially considering that people are not satisfied after entering.
[QUOTE=NegotiateHard;2593275]Can anyone who has gone recently say if it's worth the trip? 90 E entry is very steep especially considering that people are not satisfied after entering.[/QUOTE]If the purpose is to have sex then yes. Just make sure to go on a Friday / Saturday and no earlier than 7 pm.
[QUOTE=DasBooty;2594080]If the purpose is to have sex then yes. Just make sure to go on a Friday / Saturday and no earlier than 7 pm.[/QUOTE]How many girls total and how many German girls? I'm looking for a hot girl native of Deutschland to have a great time with this trip! Too many Romanians always. Need to mix it up sometime.
[QUOTE=NegotiateHard;2593275]Can anyone who has gone recently say if it's worth the trip? 90 E entry is very steep especially considering that people are not satisfied after entering.[/QUOTE]They raised the entry to 90 euro? Is it for temporary or permanently?
Artemis should install globe strategy, higher price as it is now for higher guaranteed service like globe which Artemis is not!
[QUOTE=NegotiateHard;2594105]How many girls total and how many German girls? I'm looking for a hot girl native of Deutschland to have a great time with this trip! Too many Romanians always. Need to mix it up sometime.[/QUOTE]I went 3 weeks ago and managed to session with a smoking hot German girl who provided great service (see report below).
All nationalities can provide great service, you just have to pay for it or charm them.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2594115]They raised the entry to 90 euro? Is it for temporary or permanently?
Artemis should install globe strategy, higher price as it is now for higher guaranteed service like globe which Artemis is not![/QUOTE]Yes, I paid 90€.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2594115]Artemis should install globe strategy, higher price as it is now for higher guaranteed service like globe which Artemis is not![/QUOTE]During my first year in Art, the BBBJ was a standard and fully included within the half-hour package. Then the new rules came. I saw more upsells, women have started to refuse to go in a room for less than 1 hour.
Now with the new entry fees + the increase of the half an hour rate, I think I'll come only 4 times a year and spend more time in Barcelona. I'm not sure the service will be better.
Unfortunately newbies and curious guys will always feed Art and they will perceive the prices as normal.
From the perspective of a UK tourist flying to Berlin for FKK.
Flights 140, private covid testing required by UK government 135 (3 tests), Artemis entry 90, taxi from new airport 50 = 415.
And that's before we include cost of pussy. For two of my 2019 Artemis visits, I couldn't find 1 lady I found attractive enough.
It's too much money for no guarantee of a good time. I'm starting to think that my 2020 visit was my last.
[QUOTE=HDN2015;2595531]During my first year in Art, the BBBJ was a standard and fully included within the half-hour package. Then the new rules came. I saw more upsells, women have started to refuse to go in a room for less than 1 hour.
Now with the new entry fees + the increase of the half an hour rate, I think I'll come only 4 times a year and spend more time in Barcelona. I'm not sure the service will be better.
Unfortunately newbies and curious guys will always feed Art and they will perceive the prices as normal.[/QUOTE]Yes, I know, I have been in Artemis since 2009, but yeah price increase is annoying and I think Artemis with such price increase should implement same business model as Globe Zurich, more expensive, but the service is guaranteed, the problem with Artemis is that service is not guaranteed like in Globe zurich!
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2595925]From the perspective of a UK tourist flying to Berlin for FKK.
Flights 140, private covid testing required by UK government 135 (3 tests), Artemis entry 90, taxi from new airport 50 = 415.
And that's before we include cost of pussy. For two of my 2019 Artemis visits, I couldn't find 1 lady I found attractive enough
It's too much money for no guarantee of a good time. I'm starting to think that my 2020 visit was my last.[/QUOTE]Artemis is the only FKK in Berlin, no competition, mostly poor LU, high entry fee, many veteran girls with sili, Botox. A no go club for me even before the pandemic.
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2595925]From the perspective of a UK tourist flying to Berlin for FKK.
Flights 140, private covid testing required by UK government 135 (3 tests), Artemis entry 90, taxi from new airport 50 = 415.
And that's before we include cost of pussy. For two of my 2019 Artemis visits, I couldn't find 1 lady I found attractive enough.
It's too much money for no guarantee of a good time. I'm starting to think that my 2020 visit was my last.[/QUOTE]Can't you find WGs in UK? Read thread about.
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2595925]From the perspective of a UK tourist flying to Berlin for FKK.
Flights 140, private covid testing required by UK government 135 (3 tests), Artemis entry 90, taxi from new airport 50 = 415.
And that's before we include cost of pussy. For two of my 2019 Artemis visits, I couldn't find 1 lady I found attractive enough.
It's too much money for no guarantee of a good time. I'm starting to think that my 2020 visit was my last.[/QUOTE]People should just go to Germany and then refuse to get the return Covid test so that they will have to have unlimited residency in Germany and will not be able to be deported since their home country will disavow them since they are not tested for return.
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2595925]From the perspective of a UK tourist flying to Berlin for FKK.
Flights 140, private covid testing required by UK government 135 (3 tests), Artemis entry 90, taxi from new airport 50 = 415.
And that's before we include cost of pussy. For two of my 2019 Artemis visits, I couldn't find 1 lady I found attractive enough.
It's too much money for no guarantee of a good time. I'm starting to think that my 2020 visit was my last.[/QUOTE]415 € just for travel costs (and entry fee) that's insane!
What about hotel costs?
If you are living in UK you have a fantastic selection of escort girls BTW, don't you agree?
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2595925]From the perspective of a UK tourist flying to Berlin for FKK.
Flights 140, private covid testing required by UK government 135 (3 tests), Artemis entry 90, taxi from new airport 50 = 415.
And that's before we include cost of pussy. For two of my 2019 Artemis visits, I couldn't find 1 lady I found attractive enough.
It's too much money for no guarantee of a good time. I'm starting to think that my 2020 visit was my last.[/QUOTE]Take an antigen test (I entered Artemis using one) and the subway and you should save about 140.
[URL]https://www.which.co.uk/news/2021/07/where-can-i-get-a-covid-19-pcr-or-antigen-private-test-to-go-on-holiday/[/URL]
Is there disposable glasses for the drinks in the bar now considering covid? Otherwise they might be quite a super spreader!
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2596082]Can't you find WGs in UK? Read thread about.[/QUOTE]I've already sampled almost every girl in London with a good reputation. We used to get a few dozen great new independent polish / Czech ladies every year, but since brexit happened the pussy has dried up! There's 2 London based Czech ladies that have great reviews and I've yet to see, but they're not quite my type. I don't want to be catching them like Pokemon just for the sake of it.
[QUOTE=DasBooty;2596176]Take an antigen test (I entered Artemis using one) and the subway and you should save about 140.
[URL]https://www.which.co.uk/news/2021/07/where-can-i-get-a-covid-19-pcr-or-antigen-private-test-to-go-on-holiday/[/URL][/QUOTE]Airlines need tests and the UK government require a PCR on return. Eurowings used to fly 80 return from Heathrow, but now it's just BA that I can fly with and their cheapest discounted tests are 40 each. Sbahn is twice the journey time now from BER airport since TXL closed, not sure I'll be able to do that at 5 am.
I used to be able to get away with 80+2+80+2=164 (flights / Sbahn / FKK entry). But now there's only BA flights, covid testing, new further away airport and FKK fee increases all at once. Oh and I almost forgot about the health insurance I now need because of brexit!
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2596456]Sbahn is twice the journey time now from BER airport since TXL closed, not sure I'll be able to do that at 5 am.
I used to be able to get away with 80+2+80+2=164 (flights / Sbahn / FKK entry).[/QUOTE]Back in the days, I booked all the cheap flights for Txl (80-100).
The the day I left my Apartment around 13.00, arrived at the airport at 14.00, passed the control 10 min later then boarded at 15.00 and took off at 15.30.
When I arrived just before 17.00 I had to jump in the txl and changed for the circular train. At 17.30 I was naked, and walked around the Art's lounge.
Sometimes I spent time in the sport room and after a nap I started to look for a session around 20.30 until 4. 30 am.
Back to TXL and got home before 9. 00.
When I said to some friends: "I was in Berlin last night" they never believed me.
I miss Art and the related rituals.
Yeah follow punters / mongers whatever others could said, it was my detox, antidepressants and help me to build up my confidence against the famous "NO" from conventional woman.
At the end of the days it became my laboratory.
Like I said earlier I will come back only 4 times a year (compare to 8 or 12 time a year) but I'm not really sure honestly.
Read your comments makes me realize an Era is completely over for me.
Anyway, I will report my next night in Art but it seems it will be in late 2022.
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2596249]Is there disposable glasses for the drinks in the bar now considering covid? Otherwise they might be quite a super spreader![/QUOTE]Same glasses as before the pandemic. You can bring your own sterile glass!
[QUOTE=DasBooty;2596535]Same glasses as before the pandemic. You can bring your own sterile glass![/QUOTE]LOL.
Is there self-service getting a refill of drink?
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2597126]LOL.
Is there self-service getting a refill of drink?[/QUOTE]Yes, they have one of these outside by the pool area.
Planning to hit Berlin, and Artemis, soon after a looong time and write some reports. Time is now when you are vaccinated.
Back in the days I remember you could smell weed in main bar and cinema very often. And I toked a bit myself on rare occasions.
How is this now a days? Can you safely smoke some weed somewhere without people going bananas?!
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2596249]Is there disposable glasses for the drinks in the bar now considering covid? Otherwise they might be quite a super spreader![/QUOTE]If I would be a so called sheep and scared not belonging to the herd, a vaccinated monger and if I would be brave enough to go to the most dangerous place in the world, a FKK Club, I would ask for a 'drinkhalm' or 'Strohhalm' (please use a translator). 'Strohhalm' helps you to drink your water very safely. But be aware, they are made out of plastic! People who are living not plastic free are not very welcome in super clean Germany. Heil and Cheers!
[QUOTE=RandomWanderer;2597300]Planning to hit Berlin, and Artemis, soon after a looong time and write some reports. Time is now when you are vaccinated.
Back in the days I remember you could smell weed in main bar and cinema very often. And I toked a bit myself on rare occasions.
How is this now a days? Can you safely smoke some weed somewhere without people going bananas?![/QUOTE]What? Are you crazy dude? German FKK Clubs are State Clubs now a days. Everything is regulated and totally controlled. Always keep "Frank the cop" in your mind. Smoking is also way too dangerous, imagine you are starting to cough. You could bring the German health care system the final collapse. Please show some solidarity! And how you would pass the blunt when it is all about infection protection? You want to get high all by yourself, you egotistical monster?
Please buy more Pfizer products! Highly recommend.
Even the handrail at the stairs as well as door handles is probably quite a habitat for corona virus. LOL.
[QUOTE=RandomWanderer;2597300]Planning to hit Berlin, and Artemis, soon after a looong time and write some reports. Time is now when you are vaccinated.
Back in the days I remember you could smell weed in main bar and cinema very often. And I toked a bit myself on rare occasions.
How is this now a days? Can you safely smoke some weed somewhere without people going bananas?![/QUOTE]Just go outside. I prefer the spot on the side where the fire exit to the wellness areas is. There's a few tables and chairs there and hardly anyone walks past.
[QUOTE=DasBooty;2597279]Yes, they have one of these outside by the pool area.[/QUOTE]Really? The last I went to Artemis was summer of 2019 in September, but I know there is one like that at outside pool, but indoor pool have just bar and I often had waiting time as the bartender went somewhere and I felt wrong to walk in and serve myself a drink, but they have self serving machine for drink now in down stairs indoor swimming pool? Or you talking about outdoor pool?
[QUOTE=MrHo;2599816]Really? The last I went to Artemis was summer of 2019 in September, but I know there is one like that at outside pool, but indoor pool have just bar and I often had waiting time as the bartender went somewhere and I felt wrong to walk in and serve myself a drink, but they have self serving machine for drink now in down stairs indoor swimming pool? Or you talking about outdoor pool?[/QUOTE]Outdoor pool. Bar downstairs was closed for a few minutes once in a while. They put up a blue sign saying that the bartender would return soon but also that there is a self-service machine outside by the pool.
If you would attempt to bartend yourself a big turk would be all over you within minutes hahaha.
Hey,
We are a group of friends arriving to Berlin for the first time as well as FKK Artemis in about 2 weeks, we will be staying in Berlin for 4 days. We would like to visit an FKK (also for the first time) and from my understanding FKK Artemis is the only brothel available in Berlin. Is it open and accepts customers that have received two vaccination shots, but 3 months ago? Also, how much do the girls charge for a 30 min or 1 h session?
Thanks in advance!
Hey,
We are a group of friends arriving to Berlin for the first time as well as FKK Artemis in about 2 weeks, we will be staying in Berlin for 4 days. We would like to visit an FKK (also for the first time) and from my understanding FKK Artemis is the only brothel available in Berlin. Is it open and accepts customers that have received two vaccination shots, but 3 months ago? Also, how much do the girls charge for a 30 min or 1 h session?
Thanks in advance!
[QUOTE=RandomWanderer;2597300] Back in the days I remember you could smell weed in main bar and cinema very often. And I toked a bit myself on rare occasions.[/QUOTE]The first and last time I saw a guy smoked weed in a FKK, I got extracted straight from the place.
[QUOTE=Buffoon;2600347]Hey,
how much do the girls charge for a 30 min or 1 h session?
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]If you want a trend, I highly recommend you to read the older message.
Hello,
I am planning my visit in October, how is the lineup now?
[QUOTE=Buffoon;2600347]Hey,
We are a group of friends arriving to Berlin for the first time as well as FKK Artemis in about 2 weeks, we will be staying in Berlin for 4 days. We would like to visit an FKK (also for the first time) and from my understanding FKK Artemis is the only brothel available in Berlin. Is it open and accepts customers that have received two vaccination shots, but 3 months ago? Also, how much do the girls charge for a 30 min or 1 h session?
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Hello,
If you are double vaccinated with a recognized vaccine (Pfizer, Moderna, Astrazenca), than yes you will be accepted. Just make sure you have a vaccine certificate or something to prove that you have been double vaccinated.
The standard price for 30 minutes is 60 Euros, but most girls would upsell to charge more (around 80 to 100 euros), otherwise a 60 euro would usually get you a very basic service that is quick (15 minutes) and often mechanical. So prepare to pay in that range (80 to 100 euros) for a proper experience.
I personally do not recommend the 1 hour session, because usually it ends up with you coming only once, and the session ending in 30 minutes if you cum twice.
[QUOTE=Buffoon;2600347]Hey,
We are a group of friends arriving to Berlin for the first time as well as FKK Artemis in about 2 weeks, we will be staying in Berlin for 4 days. We would like to visit an FKK (also for the first time) and from my understanding FKK Artemis is the only brothel available in Berlin. Is it open and accepts customers that have received two vaccination shots, but 3 months ago? Also, how much do the girls charge for a 30 min or 1 h session?
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Also, I hope you are aware (and also tell your friends) that FKK Artemis is more than just a brothel for quick fucks. It is a men's wellness place. It a very spacious complex that includes places to swim, gym, have a massage, chill on the bar, watch porn movies, sleep, have lunch and dinner, and all for a flat fee (except the massage of course), while surrounded with beautiful naked women in near perfect bodies. People typically spend the whole day there, because a day spent there is a day well spent.
[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2601737]Also, I hope you are aware (and also tell your friends) that FKK Artemis is more than just a brothel for quick fucks. It is a men's wellness place. It a very spacious complex that includes places to swim, gym, have a massage, chill on the bar, watch porn movies, sleep, have lunch and dinner, and all for a flat fee (except the massage of course), while surrounded with beautiful naked women in near perfect bodies. People typically spend the whole day there, because a day spent there is a day well spent.[/QUOTE]I can vouch for this. Usually I fly in and arrive before 1 pm and leave at 4 am (15 hours). No need for hotel. First flight out.
Paid my first post-coronian visit to an FKK last Friday. I haven't been for a while to Artemis, maybe since 2018 as I usually go to the Hessen area clubs, but alas my trip took me to Berlin.
Let me start by saying that I was never a big fan of Artemis, for a number of reasons, mainly because the "pick-up" area is small and dark.
Arrived at dusk.
Not particularly impressed with the LU, very poor compared to the Hessen clubs, but if you're lucky there are exceptions and you can get a more interesting service with less than the typical Romanian 100 in Sharks for example.
There were about 20 girls give or take, with 50% RO, 30% below average, 50% average and 20% above average looks.
1st session with Jordan, 26 yo, DE (claims), 1.65, silicone, pierced nipples, bellybutton, pussy.
Body: 10, Face: 9, Service: 7.
This girl oozes sex appeal and instantly made me want a room.
With her. GFE, French kiss not allowed, fingering not allowed, ass no. Paid 90/30 min (70 + 20 CIM).
Not a clock watcher, very friendly, I enjoyed even if she has a long list of "no".
2nd session Elise, 32 yo, TR, 1.70, dark skin.
Body: 7, Face: 8, Service: 8.
Excellent BJ, knows how to take positions, friendly. Something between GFE and PSE. Did not bother asking about extras as I just wanted a quick fuck. 70/30 min.
3rd session. Forgot the name. Skinny blond from RO with a small diamond tattoo on chest. 1.70, small tits.
Body: 8, Face: 7, Service: 7.
Vanilla fuck using a lot of hand to jerk me off. I chose her because I felt like it when I first saw her. Overall fun attitude. 70/30 min.
Do the girls have to be vaccinated to be able to work or is it enough with negative tests?
[QUOTE=Aolini;2602723]
1st session with Jordan, 26 yo, DE (claims)
Paid 90/30 min (70 + 20 CIM).
[/QUOTE]20 euro for CIM? Impossible, CIM it has never been so cheap. You probably paid an extra 20 euros for the BBBJ instead of the CBJ. were the other 70 euro / 30min sessions with CBJ?
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2602819]20 euro for CIM? Impossible, CIM it has never been so cheap. You probably paid an extra 20 euros for the BBBJ instead of the CBJ. were the other 70 euro / 30min sessions with CBJ?[/QUOTE]My mistake. Indeed 20€ was for BBBJ. The others were CBJ.
[QUOTE=Aolini;2602723]Paid my first post-coronian visit to an FKK last Friday. I haven't been for a while to Artemis, maybe since 2018 as I usually go to the Hessen area clubs, but alas my trip took me to Berlin.
Let me start by saying that I was never a big fan of Artemis, for a number of reasons, mainly because the "pick-up" area is small and dark.
Arrived at dusk.
Not particularly impressed with the LU, very poor compared to the Hessen clubs, but if you're lucky there are exceptions and you can get a more interesting service with less than the typical Romanian 100 in Sharks for example.
There were about 20 girls give or take, with 50% RO, 30% below average, 50% average and 20% above average looks.
1st session with Jordan, 26 yo, DE (claims), 1.65, silicone, pierced nipples, bellybutton, pussy..[/QUOTE]This Jordan girl you mention sound like Leyla, were piercing yellow gold? Dyed blonde hair, more beautiful version of Shakira the singer in her prime and have very nice natural tits?
For me there was DFK and all GFE, but I paid 150 euro, which is my price for one hour.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2602926]This Jordan girl you mention sound like Leyla, were piercing yellow gold? Dyed blonde hair, more beautiful version of Shakira the singer in her prime and have very nice natural tits?
For me there was DFK and all GFE, but I paid 150 euro, which is my price for one hour.[/QUOTE]No she was brunette actually, with crystal piercings. Silicone tits.
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2602738]Do the girls have to be vaccinated to be able to work or is it enough with negative tests?[/QUOTE]It is ok with a negative test.
[QUOTE=Aolini;2602723]Paid my first post-coronian visit to an FKK last Friday. I haven't been for a while to Artemis, maybe since 2018 as I usually go to the Hessen area clubs, but alas my trip took me to Berlin.
Let me start by saying that I was never a big fan of Artemis, for a number of reasons, mainly because the "pick-up" area is small and dark.
Arrived at dusk.
Not particularly impressed with the LU, very poor compared to the Hessen clubs, but if you're lucky there are exceptions and you can get a more interesting service with less than the typical Romanian 100 in Sharks for example.
There were about 20 girls give or take, with 50% RO, 30% below average, 50% average and 20% above average looks.
[/QUOTE]20 girls sounds like a very slow night. Did more girls arrive during the night?
[QUOTE=Aolini;2603058]No she was brunette actually, with crystal piercings. Silicone tits.[/QUOTE]Ah, OK. Then it is a different one then!
[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2601737]Also, I hope you are aware (and also tell your friends) that FKK Artemis is more than just a brothel for quick fucks. It is a men's wellness place. It a very spacious complex that includes places to swim, gym, have a massage, chill on the bar, watch porn movies, sleep, have lunch and dinner, and all for a flat fee (except the massage of course), while surrounded with beautiful naked women in near perfect bodies. People typically spend the whole day there, because a day spent there is a day well spent.[/QUOTE]If it wasn't for the no electronics rule I'd be able to mix swimming, sun, oral, with some work to make for a very satisfying day at the office LOL.
[QUOTE=Aolini;2602723]Paid my first post-coronian visit to an FKK last Friday. I haven't been for a while to Artemis, maybe since 2018 as I usually go to the Hessen area clubs, but alas my trip took me to Berlin.
Let me start by saying that I was never a big fan of Artemis, for a number of reasons, mainly because the "pick-up" area is small and dark.
Arrived at dusk.
Not particularly impressed with the LU, very poor compared to the Hessen clubs, but if you're lucky there are exceptions and you can get a more interesting service with less than the typical Romanian 100 in Sharks for example.
There were about 20 girls give or take, with 50% RO, 30% below average, 50% average and 20% above average looks.
1st session with Jordan, 26 yo, DE (claims), 1.65, silicone, pierced nipples, bellybutton, pussy.
Body: 10, Face: 9, Service: 7.
This girl oozes sex appeal and instantly made me want a room.
With her. GFE, French kiss not allowed, fingering not allowed, ass no. Paid 90/30 min (70 + 20 CIM)..[/QUOTE]20 girls on a Friday?
And only 20% of them with looks above "average" that's 4 girls.
[QUOTE=BreezyHome;2603473]If it wasn't for the no electronics rule I'd be able to mix swimming, sun, oral, with some work to make for a very satisfying day at the office LOL.[/QUOTE]I have seen some mongers with Ipad downstairs where you enter the swimming pool and below the stairs there is sofa, a monger was doing his thing with his ipad. It is not allowed though!
As of Sat today 18 Sept Berlin Senat says bordellos must have 2 G policy -from Germans words (geimpft and genesen). You must show proof of vaccination within last 6 months, or proof of Covid recovery to get in. Daily Tests no longer accepted. Whether / how enforced-who knows. But A'rts will do this as it is so visible.
Just for record, Berlin Covid daily numbers like 10 times higher than in June, hospitalizations also up, all mostly young. Stabilizing at high levels - not as bad as peaks but way up since early summer.
Much data worldwide shows even vaccinated can spread and get Delta mutation in crowded, poor ventilated areas. Current high stabilization probably lull after summer holidays and mixing. Weather getting colder, etc. These data obviously drive tightening regulations. We will see what happens soon if erections stay as serviced after elections. Say only for people travel planning in Oct-Nov. Use brain. Risks, choices, prices from all reports suggest unfortunately not worth it.
Hi mongers,
Before covid around Jan 2020, I visited Artemis for the first time and spent a night with this one girl I think her name was Bella. She's skinny with A / B cups a few tattoos and about 1.65 m. She had the best lips and her BJ and French was amazing. I can't get her out to my head and I've gone back to Artemis several times looking for her and I can't find her. Does anyone know if she still works there or where she went?
She told me she was from Poland but grew up in Germany. Spoke both English and German. I can't get her out of my head!
Around Jan 2020 before covid became a pandemic, I visited Artemis for the first time and spent the night with a girl I think her name was bella, not 100 sure I was a bit foggy. She had a / be cups about 1. 65 m skinny and blond with a few tattoos, one of them on her neck. She was amazing. Such a good BJ with the softer lips and good drenching. I've gone back several times to artemis but I can't find her. Does anyone know if she still works there and if not where she is?
She told me she is polish but grew up in Berlin. Spoke English and German. God she was amazing. I can't get her out of my mind and I've been disappointed every time I go back to artemis.
Just went today at the opening time (Saturday around 11:20 am). First experience with sex work so take it with a grain of salt I guess.
The location is easily reachable by public transport. They check for vaccination on entry. I had the Lucas app ready (with my double vaccination QR code scanned in it). You just need to hit the check in button, scan the venue's code and you're set. Artemis will be in the app history though but you can clear it. You MUST being a FFP2 mask in pretty much every room.
The entry itself costs 90 e. You go in, grab a bathrobe, towel and flip flops (you can also bring yours) and hit the common showers (I hope you're not shy being naked around men).
There were maybe 20 girls walking around naked at the bar. Most of them pretty hot I have to say. I really think everyone can find something for their taste.
A plump Romanian brunette called Nicki quickly pulled me aside. I was a bit nervous but she was very nice and understanding, and willing to help you discover, try different things and show you the ropes. Gave me a nice BBBJ (extra 20), great skills and eye contact, with CIM and swallow (20+50), sex in various positions (base price of 70). Total of 140 well spent as far as I'm concerned. I was her first client of the day apparently (one of the perks of coming early I guess).
Grabbed some food and coffee at the free buffet and reflected on the day's events while having a smoke in the yard. I explored the venue a bit, it's pretty nice.
I contemplated going for a second round but I was already down 230 e and called it a day.
Great first experience. I will probably come back someday now that I live in Berlin.
[QUOTE=MisterShy;2605646]Just went today at the opening time (Saturday around 11:20 am). First experience with sex work so take it with a grain of salt I guess.
The location is easily reachable by public transport. They check for vaccination on entry. I had the Lucas app ready (with my double vaccination QR code scanned in it). You just need to hit the check in button, scan the venue's code and you're set. Artemis will be in the app history though but you can clear it. You MUST being a FFP2 mask in pretty much every room.
The entry itself costs 90 e. You go in, grab a bathrobe, towel and flip flops (you can also bring yours) and hit the common showers (I hope you're not shy being naked around men).
There were maybe 20 girls walking around naked at the bar. Most of them pretty hot I have to say. I really think everyone can find something for their taste.
A plump Romanian brunette called Nicki quickly pulled me aside. I was a bit nervous but she was very nice and understanding, and willing to help you discover, try different things and show you the ropes. Gave me a nice BBBJ (extra 20), great skills and eye contact, with CIM and swallow (20+50), sex in various positions (base price of 70). Total of 140 well spent as far as I'm concerned. I was her first client of the day apparently (one of the perks of coming early I guess).[/QUOTE]All the extra she charged you can be justified after new law in 2017, if there was DFK included and also DATY. CIM is 50 extra and swallow for extra 20 is not bad, but usually it is 100 euro per 30 min for GFE service with DFK and DATY and BBBJ, but without CIM and swallow as they are extra. 20 for swallow is not bad deal.
[QUOTE=Jiggijay;2605631]Around Jan 2020 before covid became a pandemic, I visited Artemis for the first time and spent the night with a girl I think her name was bella, not 100 sure I was a bit foggy. She had a / be cups about 1. 65 m skinny and blond with a few tattoos, one of them on her neck. She was amazing. Such a good BJ with the softer lips and good drenching. I've gone back several times to artemis but I can't find her. Does anyone know if she still works there and if not where she is?
She told me she is polish but grew up in Berlin. Spoke English and German. God she was amazing. I can't get her out of my mind and I've been disappointed every time I go back to artemis.[/QUOTE]I know the feeling buddy, I love it in FKK when we sometimes find girl who blow your mind for life in room with eternal amazing memories! But hey, there will be an another one! That is the beauty of FKK LOL! That I have many LOL!
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2605605]As of Sat today 18 Sept Berlin Senat says bordellos must have 2 G policy -from Germans words (geimpft and genesen). You must show proof of vaccination within last 6 months, or proof of Covid recovery to get in. Daily Tests no longer accepted. Whether / how enforced-who knows. But A'rts will do this as it is so visible.
Just for record, Berlin Covid daily numbers like 10 times higher than in June, hospitalizations also up, all mostly young. Stabilizing at high levels - not as bad as peaks but way up since early summer.
Much data worldwide shows even vaccinated can spread and get Delta mutation in crowded, poor ventilated areas. Current high stabilization probably lull after summer holidays and mixing. Weather getting colder, etc. These data obviously drive tightening regulations. We will see what happens soon if erections stay as serviced after elections. Say only for people travel planning in Oct-Nov. Use brain. Risks, choices, prices from all reports suggest unfortunately not worth it.[/QUOTE]It still says, on Artemis website:
We are open for all those who have been tested or vaccinated and those who have recovered.
Your Artemis-Team.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2605605]As of Sat today 18 Sept Berlin Senat says bordellos must have 2 G policy -from Germans words (geimpft and genesen). You must show proof of vaccination within last 6 months, or proof of Covid recovery to get in. Daily Tests no longer accepted. Whether / how enforced-who knows. But A'rts will do this as it is so visible.
Just for record, Berlin Covid daily numbers like 10 times higher than in June, hospitalizations also up, all mostly young. Stabilizing at high levels - not as bad as peaks but way up since early summer.
Much data worldwide shows even vaccinated can spread and get Delta mutation in crowded, poor ventilated areas. Current high stabilization probably lull after summer holidays and mixing. Weather getting colder, etc. These data obviously drive tightening regulations. We will see what happens soon if erections stay as serviced after elections. Say only for people travel planning in Oct-Nov. Use brain. Risks, choices, prices from all reports suggest unfortunately not worth it.[/QUOTE]I'm traveling from the UK to Berlin next Friday. I'm double vaccinated but we use the NHS Covid app which has a QR code, when you say that they check for proof of vaccination, is this an electronic check of the QR code? And can I use the NHS app or does it have to be some sort of German app? I also have a printed letter, would this also suffice?
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2605927]It still says, on Artemis website: We are open for all those who have been tested or vaccinated and those who have recovered.
[/QUOTE]May take a while for website to catch up to regulations.
Meanwhile party in Münster last week, 350 people danced and sang in a badly ventilated room. 82 infected (none so far seriously). [URL]https://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/gesundheit/coronavirus/corona-viele-infektionen-nach-2g-party-in-muenster-17543407.html[/URL] You know our moto: never let facts get in the way of a good theory.
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2605927]It still says, on Artemis website:
We are open for all those who have been tested or vaccinated and those who have recovered.
Your Artemis-Team.[/QUOTE]How about PCR test?
[QUOTE=MrHo;2606551]How about PCR test?[/QUOTE]From the web site:
"We are open for all those who have been tested or vaccinated and those who have recovered."
Who have been tested = PCR Test.
[QUOTE=Ramsiss;2606975]From the web site:
"We are open for all those who have been tested or vaccinated and those who have recovered."
Who have been tested = PCR Test.[/QUOTE]That is not too bad considering I hear it is easy to get free? Pcr test in Germany at drug store?
[QUOTE=MrHo;2607058]That is not too bad considering I hear it is easy to get free? Pcr test in Germany at drug store?[/QUOTE]According to new rules from a week ago, you have to be vaccinated to be allowed in. Artemis web site isn't updated for this.
[URL]https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/politik-gesellschaft/berliner-corona-politik-eine-rolle-rueckwaerts-zugunsten-der-kinder-li.183081[/URL]
[QUOTE=BlueSwede;2607167]According to new rules from a week ago, you have to be vaccinated to be allowed in. Artemis web site isn't updated for this.
[URL]https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/politik-gesellschaft/berliner-corona-politik-eine-rolle-rueckwaerts-zugunsten-der-kinder-li.183081[/URL][/QUOTE]If negative tested are not anymore allowed, at least they won't be anymore given by vaccinated who are positive.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2606345]May take a while for website to catch up to regulations.
Meanwhile party in Mnster last week, 350 people danced and sang in a badly ventilated room. 82 infected (none so far seriously). [URL]https://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/gesundheit/coronavirus/corona-viele-infektionen-nach-2g-party-in-muenster-17543407.html[/URL] You know our moto: never let facts get in the way of a good theory.[/QUOTE]I mean. Seriously. Even in pre-covid times, even if no virus ever existed, having an orgy of 350 people (I'm sure they didn't just sing and dance) with no proper ventilation is just plain stupid. Come on.
[QUOTE=TheCountLincs;2606200]I'm traveling from the UK to Berlin next Friday. I'm double vaccinated but we use the NHS Covid app which has a QR code, when you say that they check for proof of vaccination, is this an electronic check of the QR code? And can I use the NHS app or does it have to be some sort of German app? I also have a printed letter, would this also suffice?[/QUOTE]Let us know how you get on. I'm eager to go but don't know the testing rules for a day trip and it's too confusing reading either UK of German government websites.
[QUOTE=BlueSwede;2607167]According to new rules from a week ago, you have to be vaccinated to be allowed in. Artemis web site isn't updated for this.
[URL]https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/politik-gesellschaft/berliner-corona-politik-eine-rolle-rueckwaerts-zugunsten-der-kinder-li.183081[/URL][/QUOTE]This is bad news and it is one of the reason why I do not want to take a chance, book a flight etc to go to FKK as the rule might change before my travel date or even while I am in the airplane for 12 hours LOL!
I would accept PCR test, but I got to be vaccinated? That is bit too much.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2606345]May take a while for website to catch up to regulations.
Meanwhile party in Mnster last week, 350 people danced and sang in a badly ventilated room. 82 infected (none so far seriously). [URL]https://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/gesundheit/coronavirus/corona-viele-infektionen-nach-2g-party-in-muenster-17543407.html[/URL] You know our moto: never let facts get in the way of a good theory.[/QUOTE]Then translate this Ninja man (without using google) taken from Berlin. De.
"Sexuelle Dienstleistungen.
Prostitutionsgewerbe theürfen unter Einhaltung strenger Vorgaben öffnen. Sexuelle Dienstleistungen theürfen angeboten und in Anspruch genommen werden. Gesichtsnahe Praktiken sind I'm 3 G-Modell nicht gestattet. Kund: innen sind unter diesen Bedingungen dazu verpflichtet, vorab einen Termin zu vereinbaren und einen negativen Corona-Test, einen vollständigen Impfnachweis oder einen Genesenennachweis vorzulegen. Füare Kund: innen und Dienstleister: innen gilt zudem eine FFP2-Maskenpflicht.
Der Betrieb von Prosititutionsfahrzeugen sowie die Ausrichtung von Prostitutionsveranstaltungen ist ausschließlich unter 2 G-Bedingungen gestattet. ".
Seems to me prostitution is fine with 3 G rules as long as it is not "Prosititutionsfahrzeugen" or "Prostitutionsveranstaltungen" whatever the heck that is?
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2607628]Then translate this Ninja man (without using google) taken from Berlin. De.
"Sexuelle Dienstleistungen.
Prostitutionsgewerbe therfen unter Einhaltung strenger Vorgaben ffnen. Sexuelle Dienstleistungen therfen angeboten und in Anspruch genommen werden. Gesichtsnahe Praktiken sind I'm 3 G-Modell nicht gestattet. Kund: innen sind unter diesen Bedingungen dazu verpflichtet, vorab einen Termin zu vereinbaren und einen negativen Corona-Test, einen vollstndigen Impfnachweis oder einen Genesenennachweis vorzulegen. Fare Kund: innen und Dienstleister: innen gilt zudem eine FFP2-Maskenpflicht.
Der Betrieb von Prosititutionsfahrzeugen sowie die Ausrichtung von Prostitutionsveranstaltungen ist ausschlielich unter 2 G-Bedingungen gestattet. ".
Seems to me prostitution is fine with 3 G rules as long as it is not "Prosititutionsfahrzeugen" or "Prostitutionsveranstaltungen" whatever the heck that is?[/QUOTE]I talked with a guy today. He had called Artemis and asked about this and they replied "no problem, we are under 3 G". So, it is for sure hard to understand the information.
[QUOTE=BlueSwede;2607720]I talked with a guy today. He had called Artemis and asked about this and they replied "no problem, we are under 3 G". So, it is for sure hard to understand the information.[/QUOTE]What is 3 G? Only 3 G I know is old mobile technology LOL!
[QUOTE=MrHo;2607731]What is 3 G? Only 3 G I know is old mobile technology LOL![/QUOTE]3 G is EU sanitary pass. PCR or antigen at Artemis? When Sharks, Oase and Finca are so flexible. Not at all for Mainhattan even antigen is OK.
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2607628]Then translate this Ninja man (without using google) taken from Berlin. De. "Sexuelle Dienstleistungen.[/QUOTE]PM gracious as always. Ninja native Japanese speaker and Deutsch so so, and legal Deutsch even less. New Regs "clearly" say if 3 G, all in sex (giver and taker) must wear FFP2 mask during sex, no direct facial contact. If 2 G, mask not needed. Will be choice of establishment like all businesses in Berlin. Of course like change in BBBJ law, difficult (impossible?) to monitor and enforce. But free testing soon ending (Oct) and also Senat maybe laying legal foundation to tighten later. Art's for sure under monitoring since crazy raid in 2016. Cannot say if or when Berlin will impose 2 G on them (and all bordellos). But new regs legally in force since 18 Sept. Cannot say if / when Arts might change its policy.
Background is all Covid data curves (cases, hospitalizations, deaths) tracking like 2020 - higher after summer holidays, then down a little, who know where by end Oct with colder weather. Berlin numbers in late June were under 10 new cases per day. Now often 400-600/ day, mostly young unvaccinated. Anyway new regs are confusing. They are what they are. Think they are intended to send signal even if not so practical. Anyway moot point, Ninja gave up Arts long time ago. Risks, quality of choices, high cost - not worth it, esp compared to local indies.. Miss good old days but they are long gone.
Wish Piefke would comment on new regs.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2607731]What is 3 G? Only 3 G I know is old mobile technology LOL![/QUOTE]As you probably guessed, it is not about cellphone data transfer. .
Better that me explaining something I don't fully understand, ask your friend, Google. .
[QUOTE=BlueSwede;2607864]As you probably guessed, it is not about cellphone data transfer. .
Better that me explaining something I don't fully understand, ask your friend, Google..[/QUOTE]I will not fully understand with google either, so I will look into it once I decide to travel to FKK land LOL Politicians messing things up even more with all these vaccine passports thing that is not united LOL.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2607731]What is 3 G? Only 3 G I know is old mobile technology LOL![/QUOTE]This is it.
[QUOTE=DioRetz;2576753]The slogan in Germany right now is "Geimpft, Genesen oder Getestet" which means "Vaccinated, Recovered or Tested". Those are the three criteria to get into the country (fulfill one of them) and have access to all sorts of things. Because they all three start with a G (most past participles in German do! They are called the three "GS". Germany actually asks you to be fully vaccinated 15 days before entry. Also, you have to wear an FFP2 mask indoors, shops etc. Have fun.[/QUOTE]
This is a site that translates easily into English and pretty up-to-date and complete.
[URL]https://www.swp.de/panorama/2g-regel-wo-gilt-corona-regel-in-deutschland-welche-bundeslaender-3g-einschraenkungen-ungeimpfte-bundesland-hamburg-bw-bayern-brandenburg-59278231.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2607628]Der Betrieb von Prosititutionsfahrzeugen sowie die Ausrichtung von Prostitutionsveranstaltungen ist ausschlielich unter 2 G-Bedingungen gestattet. ".
Seems to me prostitution is fine with 3 G rules as long as it is not "Prosititutionsfahrzeugen" or "Prostitutionsveranstaltungen" whatever the heck that is?[/QUOTE]You can google that easily. In fact a "Prosititutionsfahrzeugen" is a camper and that kind of thing. Just google the German word and switch to Pictures.
"Prostitutionsveranstaltungen" are actually prostitution events. I used to get emails about these but haven't found much of them recently. Some hookers go from town to town and hire a barn or a flat or even rooms in the RLD. It might be for one day only or the weekend and so on. So actually is a form of prostitution like a circus coming to town. I once met a lady in the RLD who was part of such a circus. Pity for me as she was really good but gone the next day.
And a bit more about 2 G and 3 G. 2 G is better. It's a regulation that says: vaccinated (geimpft) or recovered (genesen) and no restrictions anymore. Testing (getestet) doesn't give you anything. It's a hot debate in Germany. But don't believe me and just translate the link to English and you know everything.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2607850]PM gracious as always. Ninja native Japanese speaker and Deutsch so so, and legal Deutsch even less. New Regs "clearly" say if 3 G, all in sex (giver and taker) must wear FFP2 mask during sex, no direct facial contact. If 2 G, mask not needed. Will be choice of establishment like all businesses in Berlin. Of course like change in BBBJ law, difficult (impossible?) to monitor and enforce. But free testing soon ending (Oct) and also Senat maybe laying legal foundation to tighten later. Art's for sure under monitoring since crazy raid in 2016. Cannot say if or when Berlin will impose 2 G on them (and all bordellos). But new regs legally in force since 18 Sept. Cannot say if / when Arts might change its policy.
Background is all Covid data curves (cases, hospitalizations, deaths) tracking like 2020 - higher after summer holidays, then down a little, who know where by end Oct with colder weather. Berlin numbers in late June were under 10 new cases per day. Now often 400-600/ day, mostly young unvaccinated. Anyway new regs are confusing. They are what they are. Think they are intended to send signal even if not so practical. Anyway moot point, Ninja gave up Arts long time ago. Risks, quality of choices, high cost - not worth it, esp compared to local indies.. Miss good old days but they are long gone.
Wish Piefke would comment on new regs.[/QUOTE]Who can control if mask in room? If BBBJ or not? If kissing.
[QUOTE=DioRetz;2607912]This is it.[/QUOTE]Tested is fair enough, but man, they can just say recover or tested instead of 3 g LOL!
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2608006]Who can control if mask in room? If BBBJ or not? If kissing.[/QUOTE]3 G is actually what I encountered in July. It's one of the big three and then you get in. Inside you still need to wear a mask when you walk around. Not when you sit down or in the room. 2 G skips the test to get in and allows all freedom to people that get inside. So no more masks at all. That is pretty much where Europe is heading: For the group of people that is vaccinated or recovered Corona is actually not that different from the Flu. Denmark in front seat but also Germany, Holland, Italy, Belgium etc are heading in that direction. Problem is of course the people that do not box in into this group. Huge debates around here. Liberties at risk as the authorities more or less make vaccination an obligation. Won't elaborate on that. Please read the link that I gave earlier. It translates well and it's rather complete.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2608070]Tested is fair enough, but man, they can just say recover or tested instead of 3 g LOL![/QUOTE]It's a construct. Most of our constructs are taken from USA or Britain. So those are easy for you to understand. But Europe still is a continent on it's own with it's own languages etc. More important: read the article as policies are changing. It seems that 3 G is something of the past and will be followed by 2 G (no testing anymore, no vaccination or recovery and you are out).
[QUOTE=DioRetz;2608212]3 G is actually what I encountered in July. It's one of the big three and then you get in. Inside you still need to wear a mask when you walk around. Not when you sit down or in the room. 2 G skips the test to get in and allows all freedom to people that get inside. So no more masks at all. That is pretty much where Europe is heading: For the group of people that is vaccinated or recovered Corona is actually not that different from the Flu. Denmark in front seat but also Germany, Holland, Italy, Belgium etc are heading in that direction. Problem is of course the people that do not box in into this group. Huge debates around here. Liberties at risk as the authorities more or less make vaccination an obligation. Won't elaborate on that. Please read the link that I gave earlier. It translates well and it's rather complete.
It's a construct. Most of our constructs are taken from USA or Britain. So those are easy for you to understand. But Europe still is a continent on it's own with it's own languages etc. More important: read the article as policies are changing. It seems that 3 G is something of the past and will be followed by 2 G (no testing anymore, no vaccination or recovery and you are out).[/QUOTE]I will wait till next year if things normalize because I do not see a point in going with this semi set up of the club due to covid with all these complications LOL!
[QUOTE=MrHo;2608786]I will wait till next year if things normalize because I do not see a point in going with this semi set up of the club due to covid with all these complications LOL![/QUOTE]Actually now there is no any G.
I was there yesterday and they do the test for free at the door entrance and in a few minutes they let you in.
The stuff is very nice and great welcome, but the girls quality is zero.
I arrived at 1 pm and there were a couple of Romanian old girls that I know since more than 3 years ago and never have a session with them. They are missiles.
Till 6 pm there were about 20 girls and 40 men's. Non One of these girls with acceptable face or body, quality is almost zero.
Later I saw 4 German girl good quality but they stay on the bar entrance playing with the unic video game there and they don't even look for men's, they choose with whom to go with, in 3 hours I saw them always there.
The rest of girls was really ugly all are from Romania, Hungary, Macedonia or Russia.
I could not find the girls I always met, lily from Hamburg, or Lucy from greec or Carla from Spain. Nothing.
This will be my last time to go there.
Sorry for Artemis but they must change girls, price is high and ok because amenities are excellent. But for sex it doesn't worth to go back there.
Maybe I hadn't luck but this is my second time in 2 months. Same girls. Same bad quality.
Bye bye Artemis.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2608786]I will wait till next year if things normalize because I do not see a point in going with this semi set up of the club due to covid with all these complications LOL![/QUOTE]No need for any G, now they do for you the test at the door entrance for free and in a few minutes they let you in.
I was there this Friday 25 Sept, I was very disappointed from the girls quality there, 95% are Romanians and they are ugly face&body and missiles I know almost all of them I never been with any.
There were about 20 girls and 50 men, very bad situation and I saw only 4 German girls with a nice quality face and body but they stay all the time playing on the video game at the bar entrance, for about 3 hours they didn't move from there and they don't even look at you. I think they choose their clients.
At the end I decided to leave without having any session, I just enjoyed the sauna and swimming pool.
Artemis must change these girls, they are old medium age (30-40) and ugly, they approfit only from the tourist or with the newbies. This is not Artemis that I always knew and I always admire for the girls quality and services, but that was before the COVID Pandemic. Now its over.
Sorry for the staff because they do there best to make us happy and enjoy, but they must take a decision and change all these ugly missiles. If you decide to go there for first time please change direction.
Regards.
I was in Artemis on Friday, Sept 25 too. My impression was completely different. I agree that most girls are Romanians but that's it. All the rest is not true. Girls are in all the age range from 21 to 35. Many women with very nice bodies, although many of them with silicone tits. I had 3 sessions and have no complaints. The prices are high but this is not new. The minimum is 70 euros and for that you get the basic repertoire. Some of them suck very well, some others are very beautiful. If you want sucking without you have to add 20. I noticed that the service overall is better if you ask for extras, meaning that you don't get only the specific extra service but also the whole attitude is better. For the basic you get a reasonable good service. From those I picked I recommend specially Nina, a beautiful Jamaican with a great ass, like only black girts have. Her tits are small but the nipples are incredibly prominent. Her face is very exotic and sexy. Go by your gut feeling, don't take those that are very pushy ot that are not nice when you speak with them. The proportion women men was not 20:40. Most of the time it was quite equal. I went a couple of times in the deep COVID times, and I must say that the scenario becomes better from time to time.
[QUOTE=Ramsiss;2609048]No need for any G, now they do for you the test at the door entrance for free and in a few minutes they let you in.
I was there this Friday 25 Sept, I was very disappointed from the girls quality there, 95% are Romanians and they are ugly face&body and missiles I know almost all of them I never been with any.
There were about 20 girls and 50 men, very bad situation and I saw only 4 German girls with a nice quality face and body but they stay all the time playing on the video game at the bar entrance, for about 3 hours they didn't move from there and they don't even look at you. I think they choose their clients.
At the end I decided to leave without having any session, I just enjoyed the sauna and swimming pool.
Artemis must change these girls, they are old medium age (30-40) and ugly, they approfit only from the tourist or with the newbies. This is not Artemis that I always knew and I always admire for the girls quality and services, but that was before the COVID Pandemic. Now its over..[/QUOTE]Yeah Artemis should get more younger stunner beauties like they used to have back in early 2010's! The test at the door is fair and square and better. I wait till the pandemic is over and all girls are back in the game!
I was also there on Friday 24th. First time since Oct 2019 - and it's sad to see how it's changed. For a weekend, it was super quiet. I've been during the week many times before and it was busier then. Almost no attractive girls IMO. I know it's subjective, but still. I sessioned a Thai girl (I'm terrible with names) as I recognize her from 2 years ago. An average experience. No DATY for some reason; no CIF but I did CIM for extra 20. She didn't seem to like me pulling out to avoid a early finish, which annoyed me a bit.
Have the lights been turned down everywhere?? She sat over my face while I jerked off for a bit but couldn't really see a damn thing. Both porno kinks seemed to be darker as well. The food is never the main draw but it was particularly bland this time.
I get masking. I understand the reasoning but I saw one dude banging aforementioned Thai girl in the Kino, with a mask on? I was barked at by the 'guardians' of the lounge by the games machine for not wearing a mask, a few times. All in all, a woeful experience and especially galling now it's 90 to get in. I won't be returning any time soon.
On a side note, I usually session a right little firecracker from Spain called (I think) Allesandro? Very petite; lovely little pert tits with curly hair. She wasn't there which is a shame; I'd go back just for her!
[QUOTE=SanPedro;2609171]a beautiful Jamaican with a great ass, like only black girts have. Her tits are small but the nipples are incredibly prominent. Her face is very exotic and sexy..[/QUOTE]I've had a little conversation with that Jamaican with curly hairs but saying she is beautiful is a little bit exaggerating but this relative because everyone has his own standard for beauty and of course not for me, if they was beautiful for you then congratulation that you have enjoyed your 3 sessions but for me Artemis is dying for mongers like us and still alive thanks to the tourists and for young people who are satisfied from this standard of beauty.
[QUOTE=TheCountLincs;2609465]On a side note, I usually session a right little firecracker from Spain called (I think) Allesandro? Very petite; lovely little pert tits with curly hair. She wasn't there which is a shame; I'd go back just for her![/QUOTE]Alejandra. She enthusiastically gave me French kissing and BBBJ for €60 standard fee. Probably the best service I've had there compared with 30 other girls over 2 years. Wish I had discovered this place 10 years ago.
I went today to Artemis. My first time. Probably picked the wrong day.
It was their 16th birthday.
There was literally hundreds of men. Ratio girls to men probably 1:10. I kid you not.
Most of the girls were not particular interesting. But I was in the mood. So over a three hour period I asked 6 girls if we could have some fun.
All 6 said no.
It was very clear that they were more interested in celebrating than working.
But if the girls in a brothel do not wish to work, why the hell are they then there?
Happy birthday Artemis.
I wasted three hours and 90 EUR.
I shall not be back.
[QUOTE=Gimse;2610574]I went today to Artemis. My first time. Probably picked the wrong day.
It was their 16th birthday.
There was literally hundreds of men. Ratio girls to men probably 1:10. I kid you not.
Most of the girls were not particular interesting. But I was in the mood. So over a three hour period I asked 6 girls if we could have some fun.
All 6 said no.
It was very clear that they were more interested in celebrating than working.
But if the girls in a brothel do not wish to work, why the hell are they then there?
Happy birthday Artemis.
I wasted three hours and 90 EUR.
I shall not be back.[/QUOTE]I never been to Artemis and I won t rush, I will more go for Berlin when I will find time. But from my FKK experience, when You don t know some girls, party are to avoid except for foods and gay. Usually more expensive and lower quality for girls. Exception was World Christmas party when World was on top.
Was also there yesterday. Literally 100 dudes and 20 working girls. It was a disaster. There was about an hour and half of celebrations at one point and all the good looking girls were busy doing stupid shit while you were left only to choose from the old one looking for BJs in the kino or others that normally wouldn't get any action. Artemis has rapidly gone down hill. I had a few sessions one was okay, another gave me attitude for not cumming fast enough. My first experience at Artemis was about 3 years ago and it was unforgettable. Every visit after covid has been a literal waste of time and pocket burner.
Are there better FKK clubs out there? If so where. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Gimse;2610574]I went today to Artemis. My first time. Probably picked the wrong day.
It was their 16th birthday.
There was literally hundreds of men. Ratio girls to men probably 1:10. I kid you not.
Most of the girls were not particular interesting. But I was in the mood. So over a three hour period I asked 6 girls if we could have some fun.
All 6 said no.
It was very clear that they were more interested in celebrating than working.
But if the girls in a brothel do not wish to work, why the hell are they then there?
Happy birthday Artemis.
I wasted three hours and 90 EUR.
I shall not be back.[/QUOTE]I'm almost sorry for you. This happens every now and then in Artemis. So far, I could resolve things by waiting a bit and asking another girl. You did the same and still no opening. I wonder what would have happened if you had stayed longer. It should be over by about 10 pm. So, when did you leave?
[QUOTE=DioRetz;2610713]I'm almost sorry for you. This happens every now and then in Artemis. So far, I could resolve things by waiting a bit and asking another girl. You did the same and still no opening. I wonder what would have happened if you had stayed longer. It should be over by about 10 pm. So, when did you leave?[/QUOTE]I did leave about. 22:15. And the girls I asked all said perhaps later. So, you are probably right, I should have stayed. Or picked another day! I will give Artemis another chance when I am in Berlin next.
Hello,
I would like to ask you some questions about Artemis.
I am planning to visit it on Wednesday 22nd of December as I will be in Berlin on this day. I visit such places not so often, being to couple brothels only but not like this one.
Is there any specific things that I should know?
I heard that on Wednesdays girls walk dressed on?
In general, Wednesday is a good day to go, not to crowded, enough girls?
And what about money payment, if I walk only with a towel or bathrobe I should carry cash with me all the time?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=BartSimpsons;2617615]Hello,
I would like to ask you some questions about Artemis.
I am planning to visit it on Wednesday 22nd of December as I will be in Berlin on this day. I visit such places not so often, being to couple brothels only but not like this one.
Is there any specific things that I should know?
I heard that on Wednesdays girls walk dressed on?
In general, Wednesday is a good day to go, not to crowded, enough girls?
And what about money payment, if I walk only with a towel or bathrobe I should carry cash with me all the time?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Cash in locker. Don't say you are newbie and pay after room. You go to get in your locker and girl come with you. Enjoy your Christmas present. Wish for ski for mine.
[QUOTE=BartSimpsons;2617615]I am planning to visit it on Wednesday 22nd of December as I will be in Berlin on this day. I visit such places not so often, being to couple brothels only but not like this one.
Is there any specific things that I should know?
And what about money payment, if I walk only with a towel or bathrobe I should carry cash with me all the time?[/QUOTE]The FKK concept is totally different from a brothel. Just read half a year pre-covid and you will know enough. Next to that: in pre-covid years the girls went on holiday with Christmas. Found out myself once. Many complaints about that can be found. I don't go there after 20 December. But if you want to go there when things are quiet, your timing couldn't be better. And just this reminder: of course Covid could turn this upside down too. Waiting for your report.
[QUOTE=DioRetz;2618004]The FKK concept is totally different from a brothel. Just read half a year pre-covid and you will know enough. Next to that: in pre-covid years the girls went on holiday with Christmas. Found out myself once. Many complaints about that can be found. I don't go there after 20 December. But if you want to go there when things are quiet, your timing couldn't be better. And just this reminder: of course Covid could turn this upside down too. Waiting for your report.[/QUOTE]So, you do not recommend going on the 22nd of December as there can be not enough girls?
[QUOTE=BartSimpsons;2618376]So, you do not recommend going on the 22nd of December as there can be not enough girls?[/QUOTE]My "guess" is no one is going to be able to predict this year. The clubs have been closed so long that a lot of girls will need the cash and may stay. Then of course if the guys don't show as the days leading up to Christmas, the girls will start to depart by train. It will be like betting on the two top teams in any sport. You can be as right as the next guy and "just as wrong". If you want to be a bit more certain, you could try an area closer to Frankfurt where the number of clubs gives you a better chance of choice (s).
If you can delay the travel ticket long enough the girls might start talking about their plans by end of November and we'll see more posts in the forums.
I thought I would come back quick in the Art. Unfortunately, the new airport is located very far from the place and based on what I read here the lineup is far from its bestest. The last time I came it was Q4 2019 I had one session and a black dark skin lady refused to go in the Zimmer with me. Wait and see. For sure, I couldn't spent 2 night per month like before.
You are my indicators, guys: I'll come back when this thread will be more active.
[QUOTE=HDN2015;2619592]I thought I would come back quick in the Art. Unfortunately, the new airport is located very far from the place and based on what I read here the lineup is far from its bestest. The last time I came it was Q4 2019 I had one session and a black dark skin lady refused to go in the Zimmer with me. Wait and see. For sure, I couldn't spent 2 night per month like before.
You are my indicators, guys: I'll come back when this thread will be more active.[/QUOTE]In my view nothing will be clarified and no line up will be up to standard before Q1 2022.
Christmas isn't for good line ups. The girls go to their families / vacation and those who stay spend time dancing to Turkish songs.
[QUOTE=BartSimpsons;2618376]So, you do not recommend going on the 22nd of December as there can be not enough girls?[/QUOTE]I cannot recommend nor predict. I can only talk about probabilities and you have to make a decision for your own. Here's some 'facts' that you can base your decision on. Girls that can afford to go home with Christmas actually do so. So the better girls will be gone home. Their timing usually is to be home just before Christmas. So December 22 is too close to Christmas. Now, with Covid the situation is a bit different. Fewer girls, fewer beauties. But still, the girls that earn well enough will be heading home by Christmas. But if you want to visit Artemis when it's more quiet, then December 22 is not a bad day. If you want to feel the Artemis vibe like it was there pre-Covid then you might just wait till Summer 2022 and look for a Messe (exhibition) day. The first month of the year usually is quiet too as especially the girls in Artemis have a habit of overstaying their Christmas holiday, only returning in February or March even. But that too could be a bit different with Covid now but then still the better earning girls will be more likely to overstay their holiday.
But as I remember, you wanted to go on a Wednesday as things will be more quiet. So no problem. It will be quiet. From this you should be able to draw your own conclusion. Just remember that this applies to all venues. Perhaps not for Amsterdam RLD as girls simply like that city a lot and stay put.
[QUOTE=HDN2015;2619592]I thought I would come back quick in the Art. Unfortunately, the new airport is located very far from the place and based on what I read here the lineup is far from its bestest. The last time I came it was Q4 2019 I had one session and a black dark skin lady refused to go in the Zimmer with me. Wait and see. For sure, I couldn't spent 2 night per month like before.
You are my indicators, guys: I'll come back when this thread will be more active.[/QUOTE]The new airport is just a few train stops more than the former East-Berlin airport Schnefeld. Not too bad. Tegel is gone. So is Tempelhof for a long time now. Airports tend to move away from city centers. My personal opinion is that Artemis will be back in business again around May-June 2022.
[QUOTE=BartSimpsons;2617615]Hello,
I would like to ask you some questions about Artemis.
I am planning to visit it on Wednesday 22nd of December as I will be in Berlin on this day. I visit such places not so often, being to couple brothels only but not like this one.
Is there any specific things that I should know?
I heard that on Wednesdays girls walk dressed on?
In general, Wednesday is a good day to go, not to crowded, enough girls?
And what about money payment, if I walk only with a towel or bathrobe I should carry cash with me all the time?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I believe Wednesday is lingerie day, so if you want to see the girl in lingerie and not naked then go Wednesday.
Crowed on Wed, it depends, December 22 will not be crowded with guys. Girls, that is speculative.
Always pay after you finish, walk back to the lock boxes in the lobby and get your money from there and hand the money to the girl. I haven't been to Artemis in 4 years. I heard the price for basic service went up from 60 Euro to 70 Euro, but you can get clarification from others in this forum. Just remember to always negotiate for anything above and beyond basic service (BJ and sex) before you go to the room. I always try and negotiate for BBBJ with that basic service as I'm used to the FKK world before the law passed in 2017. Many girls, not all, but many will still give BBBJ for the basic rate. But I'm sure it depends on the guy and if they like you or not.
Hi,
Does anybody knows if Hungarian MILF Jolene / Evelyn / Rubi is still around?
TIA.
Will be in Berlin during Wednesday to Monday, what would be the best day and time to get into Artemis? Preferably would like to see as much girls as possible? Also, has anyone been there during November? From the reports in this thread it seems that there's not much going on now?
[QUOTE=Buffoon;2622487]Will be in Berlin during Wednesday to Monday, what would be the best day and time to get into Artemis? Preferably would like to see as much girls as possible? Also, has anyone been there during November? From the reports in this thread it seems that there's not much going on now?[/QUOTE]Back in the good times, you can read whole page about which days best: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1292977&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1292977.
ShinyCrazy posted this today on Berlin thread -[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=2623639&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2623639.
Copied as useful here. Such huge change from glory days.
FKK Artemis:
It's been a long time since I've visited Artemis, and the online reports of Artemis post-COVID are slim. So here was my experience:
Paid my 90 Euro entrance, took my shower, and started to peruse the talent. Figured that an afternoon and evening of FKK style relaxation would cure my jet lag. Found one young German girl from Hamburg that was cute. Asked for one hour with kissing, DATY, cum two times, once in pussy, once with BBBJ and CIM. Quoted 300. I laughed and explained that I've never paid more than 200 for that in any FKK club. She wouldn't budge. Tried another girl from Bulgaria with dark hair who also was cute. Basically same quote. I thought, WTF is wrong with Artemis? Did I just waste 90 Euros on the entrance? The facilities are still clean and nice. The saunas are operating. The massage and hammam guys are available. The indoor pool downstairs is still freezing, and only barely warmer than the outdoor pool. The main bar is still a densely smoke filled cancer ward. By the way, your N95 mask is handy to protect you from the acrid fog produced by chain smoking Romanian girls. The food is still absolutely terrible. Worst FKK club food I've ever had. So everything is the same except the girls are now asking for 300 per hour for a decent experience? That is insane. I was literally packing up to leave and stomping down the spiral staircase saying loudly that this is the worst FKK club I've ever seen, when I was accosted by a Greek girl with cleopatra eye makeup. She wore a black midriff cloth to cover a slight paunch in the belly. Likely in her late 30's. She agreed to 210 for my service request, so we went off to a room. Her math was as follows: 70 per half hour times two equals 140 plus 20 for BBBJ / kissing plus 50 for.
CIM equals 210. Over 200 per hour still seems ridiculous unless you include anal, but in the room, she was an animal and earned the money. Kissed like she wanted to eat me. She put herself in crazy positions all over the sofa and just generally was a non stop fucking animal for an hour. My faith in FKK was redeemed for the moment. Tried a few more girls, but continued to get silly quotes. Finally found a Dominican girl who again agreed to 210 and we were off to the races. Once in the room, she wouldn't position herself properly for DATY always keeping too far away for my mouth to reach, wouldn't really kiss to speak of despite promising kissing, tried to direct the whole session by telling me to "relax" and lie back and she would do everything. In the end, she just gave me BBBJ / CIM twice. I never even got a chance to fuck. Pretty strange session and not exactly what I had in mind, but at least I came twice. Four orgasms in one short evening is pretty much a maximum performance for me, so I headed back to my hotel. Would I return to Artemis? I don't think so. The food is terrible and the girls are asking silly money for limited service. I had more time in Berlin, but I chose to go to brothels for the other days instead. Overall, the combination of limited staffing and pricing of 300 Euro per hour for normal good service is going to kill the FKK model. I am seriously worried that these clubs will not survive.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2623736]ShinyCrazy posted this today on Berlin thread -[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=2623639&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2623639.
Copied as useful here. Such huge change from glory days.
[/QUOTE]As you kind of hint NN, is this what we are now forced to accept? 300 for an hour of multiple and extras or is this something that the girls are doing to try and recoup the lost income with only a few customers. And if we pay it, they will continue to ask for it. I guess only time will tell, right?
If there are enough girls charging only 200, then maybe the 300 ladies will have to lower their prices. It is not like you can go to the other FKK across town. Sad.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2623803]As you kind of hint NN, is this what we are now forced to accept? 300 for an hour of multiple and extras or is this something that the girls are doing to try and recoup the lost income with only a few customers. And if we pay it, they will continue to ask for it. I guess only time will tell, right?
If there are enough girls charging only 200, then maybe the 300 ladies will have to lower their prices. It is not like you can go to the other FKK across town. Sad.[/QUOTE]Again, for me it depends on what I'm getting for that 300 euros. If it's an hour of straight sex plus anal sex with BBBJ / CIM, then I'm in. I don't pay extra for kissing or dining between the thighs (or most anything else). I remember one time a tute asked me to pay extra to watch her kiss another tute. I laughed in her face hahaha!
Thanks for the recent reports, consequently Artemis has been removed from my FKK autumn tour.
100 for 30 minutes to include everything except the bum hole is my maximum fee.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2623803]As you kind of hint NN, is this what we are now forced to accept? 300 for an hour of multiple and extras or is this something that the girls are doing to try and recoup the lost income with only a few customers. And if we pay it, they will continue to ask for it. I guess only time will tell, right?
If there are enough girls charging only 200, then maybe the 300 ladies will have to lower their prices. It is not like you can go to the other FKK across town. Sad.[/QUOTE]I always go up front and says I pay 150 euro for one hour for GFE with DFK etc and usually it is fine by girls, and like the guy, max I ever paid was 200 euro per hour including real dirty rimming on me and it was worth it though LOL! But usually it is 150 euro per hour for GFE.
I also hear Artemis raise their 30 min club rate to 60 to 70 euro! I hope the service level went up with the price!
Complain to Kenna to fix this mess, club raise the price, why girls are raising price even higher? Artemis is already highest price club in the German FKK industry, so service and control has to be more in place!
Hi guys!
Thanks for the important information you share with us here in the forum.
I understand that Artemis is not good place anymore, I'll be at Berlin in December 15 and I wondering if there is another place like Artemis but better?
Thanks again.
[QUOTE=VirginMen;2624345]Hi guys!
Thanks for the important information you share with us here in the forum.
I understand that Artemis is not good place anymore, I'll be at Berlin in December 15 and I wondering if there is another place like Artemis but better?
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]I am no expert, and Berlin most of my favorite places in Berlin are closed, Caligula, airport girls, Mustafa, insomnia on Thursday night there was always a gangbang with house girls, 90 bucks get in Artemis, and 100 bucks for 30 minutes is no bargain, I would try Leipzip, they have a couple FKK there, never been there I hear it's a nice city.
[QUOTE=Sailor501;2624535]I am no expert, and Berlin most of my favorite places in Berlin are closed, Caligula, airport girls, Mustafa, insomnia on Thursday night there was always a gangbang with house girls, 90 bucks get in Artemis, and 100 bucks for 30 minutes is no bargain, I would try Leipzip, they have a couple FKK there, never been there I hear it's a nice city.[/QUOTE]Mustafa is in jail because he violated the law and recruited minors. No sorries about him.
As for Insomnia, it is going back to normal gradually. According to its website, it has the International Sex Affairs on Tuesdays and the gangbang on Saturdays. Check the Insomnia thread.
[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2625451]Mustafa is in jail because he violated the law and recruited minors. No sorries about him.
As for Insomnia, it is going back to normal gradually. According to its website, it has the International Sex Affairs on Tuesdays and the gangbang on Saturdays. Check the Insomnia thread.[/QUOTE]Have you ever been to Leipzip, FKK.
[QUOTE=Sailor501;2625484]Have you ever been to Leipzip, FKK.[/QUOTE]First no Leipzip, name is Leipzig. Maybe you try to find P spot on girl also? Second, use ISG search in Other German FKK Clubs thread. You will see some reports on Leipzig that will make you stay in Artemis. Except.
All really moot points now. Bad Covid week in Berlin both daily new cases (almost 2800 Wed) and hospital beds filling up. This really is not time to be in crowded smokey rooms. For safety, and for price / quality, small apartments with indie girls best.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2625721]First no Leipzip, name is Leipzig. Maybe you try to find P spot on girl also? Second, use ISG search in Other German FKK Clubs thread. You will see some reports on Leipzig that will make you stay in Artemis. Except.
All really moot points now. Bad Covid week in Berlin both daily new cases (almost 2800 Wed) and hospital beds filling up. This really is not time to be in crowded smokey rooms. For safety, and for price / quality, small apartments with indie girls best.[/QUOTE]Where do you find spot.
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I was in Arts 2 weeks ago on Thursday night and the LU was in much better state then 2 months ago.
Many old and new faces and in fact there was more girls then mans so it was not a problem to find a girl to satisfy my needs.
I had one long PSE session with Avril (first time) including all the nasty extras - 10/10.
Maybe it just luck but overall this visit in arts was great fun and good atmosphere.
[QUOTE=AgentNash;2638000]I was in Arts 2 weeks ago on Thursday night and the LU was in much better state then 2 months ago.
Many old and new faces and in fact there was more girls then mans so it was not a problem to find a girl to satisfy my needs.
I had one long PSE session with Avril (first time) including all the nasty extras - 10/10.
Maybe it just luck but overall this visit in arts was great fun and good atmosphere.[/QUOTE]What was the dmg for PSE? I've never been offered anything AO in Artemis.
[QUOTE=Johncheese2;2638232]What was the dmg for PSE? I've never been offered anything AO in Artemis.[/QUOTE]PSE and AO are different.
[QUOTE=AgentNash;2638000]I was in Arts 2 weeks ago on Thursday night and the LU was in much better state then 2 months ago.
Many old and new faces and in fact there was more girls then mans so it was not a problem to find a girl to satisfy my needs.
I had one long PSE session with Avril (first time) including all the nasty extras - 10/10.
Maybe it just luck but overall this visit in arts was great fun and good atmosphere.[/QUOTE]I like Avril, only punted her once though. I'd defo do her again if I saw her! Glad you had a good time.
Will be in Berlin soon and would like some curvy girl recommendations.
I know AO, but what is PSE? Sound like new computer game from Sony or something LOL!
I want to do AO in FKK, somehow I never asked or even thought about it before in FKK!
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2638497]I like Avril, only punted her once though. I'd defo do her again if I saw her! Glad you had a good time.[/QUOTE]Thanks. It was great to see all those naked bodies after almost 2 years.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2638761]I know AO, but what is PSE? Sound like new computer game from Sony or something LOL!
I want to do AO in FKK, somehow I never asked or even thought about it before in FKK![/QUOTE]Porn star experience? I used to tip Russian girls well for screaming Perestrojka while performing forceful doggy some ten years ago. Glory days indeed!
[QUOTE=AgentNash;2638778]Thanks. It was great to see all those naked bodies after almost 2 years.[/QUOTE]Your needle. Your freedom. Your freedom. People's Lockdown.
Think twice next time.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2638761]I know AO, but what is PSE? Sound like new computer game from Sony or something LOL!
I want to do AO in FKK, somehow I never asked or even thought about it before in FKK![/QUOTE]PSE = Porn Star Experience.
Lots of fake screaming moaning LOL, but energetic performance with ball licking, DFK, and CIM.
[QUOTE=PauClaris;2640607]Porn star experience? I used to tip Russian girls well for screaming Perestrojka while performing forceful doggy some ten years ago. Glory days indeed![/QUOTE]Perestroika indeed for mongering industry as Russian girls are among most beautiful LOL! It is too bad they cannot get to FKK easily due to visa, if not there would be plenty of supply from Russia and all other former soviet union nations, imagine FKK with them LOL!
It would be amazing if Russia managed to legalize FKK like set up LOL! Imagine that one LOL! With all the western sanction on Russia, if they do FKK in Russia, all tourist will head to mother Russia for their FKK LOL! Russia can dominate the world of mongers if they do FKK with all these different style beauties from all former soviet nations LOL! They got all kind of beauties!
[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2640711]PSE = Porn Star Experience.
Lots of fake screaming moaning LOL, but energetic performance with ball licking, DFK, and CIM.[/QUOTE]Oh I like PSE then LOL! I call it Pierre Woodman style which is my style LOL! Now and then I get GFE too, so I like it both ways, but I tend to like to fuck hard in all the way and style, so let say I like it mixed LOL!
[QUOTE=MrHo;2638761]I know AO, but what is PSE? Sound like new computer game from Sony or something LOL!
I want to do AO in FKK, somehow I never asked or even thought about it before in FKK![/QUOTE]You don't know what that is? You got to be kidding me right? You're supposed to be a pro monger Mr. Ho! Got to know the basic lingo of the profession! And Smokelight it isn't always fake LOL!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2640882]You don't know what that is? You got to be kidding me right? You're supposed to be a pro monger Mr. Ho! Got to know the basic lingo of the profession! And Smokelight it isn't always fake LOL![/QUOTE]AO, BBBJ, CIM, GFE, PSE, now that is enough, it sound like new electronic devices LOL!
[QUOTE=MrHo;2640978]AO, BBBJ, CIM, GFE, PSE, now that is enough, it sound like new electronic devices LOL![/QUOTE]I know, very confusing sometimes.
DDSC. Dynamic Discrete Surround Circuit (DENON).
SDDS. Sony Dynamic Digital Sound (SONY).
MP3.
AC3.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2640978]AO, BBBJ, CIM, GFE, PSE, now that is enough, it sound like new electronic devices LOL![/QUOTE]It's like all of those different fucking train lines you have to know!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2641173]It's like all of those different fucking train lines you have to know![/QUOTE]That was me few years ago, but now I am getting used to this code of monger like military code LOL! Or this covid 2 g 1 g etc are like some new names for Apple Iphones LOL!
At least we have monger language to talk in open space out side FKK like even we say BBBJ, CIM, PSE experience or GFE, nobody in cafe or restaurant won't understand what we are on about LOL!
[QUOTE=VirginMen;2624345]Hi guys!
Thanks for the important information you share with us here in the forum.
I understand that Artemis is not good place anymore, I'll be at Berlin in December 15 and I wondering if there is another place like Artemis but better?.[/QUOTE]I don't mind people asking for help, hell I do it too. BUT AFTER you go, post something. Tell us what you did, if you discovered anything. Even a post that says "exactly like you said! "
Courtesy! And Have a great holiday season. May your balls jingle and may we all be in Artemis in 2022 together.
I have been to Artemis on numerous occasions and always had a great time and have luckily never experienced upselling and have always got a good service from the pretty standard €70 or €140 (not fussed about BBBJ however do want GFE).
My question is there anywhere else worth going to with a FKK style set up?
I have been to Sharks on several occasion and really enjoy it. I have also enjoyed a few trips to Globe.
Have been to Oase, however didn't have such a great experience (just didn't really see any girls for me when I was there).
So just wondered if there are any other must try clubs in Germany or other European countries?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Fox13;2643538]I have been to Artemis on numerous occasions and always had a great time and have luckily never experienced upselling and have always got a good service from the pretty standard 70 or 140 (not fussed about BBBJ however do want GFE).
My question is there anywhere else worth going to with a FKK style set up?
I have been to Sharks on several occasion and really enjoy it. I have also enjoyed a few trips to Globe.
Have been to Oase, however didn't have such a great experience (just didn't really see any girls for me when I was there).
So just wondered if there are any other must try clubs in Germany or other European countries?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Sharks is way better than Artemis. The same goes for Goidentime Vienna.
[QUOTE=TeFab456;2643586]Sharks is way better than Artemis. The same goes for Goidentime Vienna.[/QUOTE]IDK about that. Matter of opinion. I know Artemis is looked down on, but I think it has a more fun atmosphere than Goldentime with its stolid women. Plus Artemis is cheaper, so if you can fuck several times a day its more value.
Goldentime isn't bad but never seemed as full and lively as Artemis did. Though I guess in these times the less crowded a place the better.
Is Artemis open? Then I may give a try while Hessen is closed.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2651819]Is Artemis open? Then I may give a try while Hessen is closed.[/QUOTE]Sirioja, worst time to come to Berlin now since opening in 2005. You should have come 4 years ago. Its open, but of course very low numbers of women because of corona and start of the year. You should at least wait some more time (3-5 months) till the big trade fairs will start again. Otherwise you will be disappointed.
[QUOTE=BunnyLover;2651907]Sirioja, worst time to come to Berlin now since opening in 2005. You should have come 4 years ago. Its open, but of course very low numbers of women because of corona and start of the year. You should at least wait some more time (3-5 months) till the big trade fairs will start again. Otherwise you will be disappointed.[/QUOTE]Thanks for advice. I thought should be good run to speed.
[QUOTE=BunnyLover;2651907]Sirioja, worst time to come to Berlin now since opening in 2005. You should have come 4 years ago. Its open, but of course very low numbers of women because of corona and start of the year. You should at least wait some more time (3-5 months) till the big trade fairs will start again. Otherwise you will be disappointed.[/QUOTE]But its still open on daily bases?
[QUOTE=PMeister;2652362]But its still open on daily bases?[/QUOTE]Open on a daily base. So called "2 G+" rules apply (vaccinated twice or overcomed disease AND additional test, available at the entrance, or vaccinated three times). Rules may change. Check in advance (www or give them a call). Expect 30 girls during evening / night.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2653135]Open on a daily base. So called "2 G+" rules apply (vaccinated twice or overcomed disease AND additional test, available at the entrance, or vaccinated three times). Rules may change. Check in advance (www or give them a call). Expect 30 girls during evening / night.[/QUOTE]30 girls? Sounds very good.
[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2653544]30 girls? Sounds very good.[/QUOTE]Not much, but quality is better than quantity.
[QUOTE=PeterTheGreat;2638731]Will be in Berlin soon and would like some curvy girl recommendations.[/QUOTE]Did you have any success? Ill be in Berlin the end of March, and will try Artemis, but also interested in a visitor to my hotel.
[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2660215]Did you have any success? Ill be in Berlin the end of March, and will try Artemis, but also interested in a visitor to my hotel.[/QUOTE]Not to be a downer, I was in Artemis a few years back, it was highly disappointing. Girls had major attitude, lots of upsell as well, hit the NRW, you will have a better time.
[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2660616]Not to be a downer, I was in Artemis a few years back, it was highly disappointing. Girls had major attitude, lots of upsell as well, hit the NRW, you will have a better time.[/QUOTE]I'm going for a family wedding, so I don't have much choice. Maybe I can convince the soon to be married couple to move location to a better FKK area? Think they'll go for it?
[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2660616]Not to be a downer, I was in Artemis a few years back, it was highly disappointing. Girls had major attitude, lots of upsell as well, hit the NRW, you will have a better time.[/QUOTE]The apartment scene is supposed to be better in Berlin.
Several websites also.
[QUOTE=DrPoon;2660727]The apartment scene is supposed to be better in Berlin.
Several websites also.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the info. How does one find about apartments?
I've seen a site called Wayfare something or other. Looks promising.
[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2660616]Not to be a downer, I was in Artemis a few years back, it was highly disappointing. Girls had major attitude, lots of upsell as well, hit the NRW, you will have a better time.[/QUOTE]I have been to Artemis several times over the years and found the full range of women. Attitude / flirty / cooperative.
It depends on the night. The crowd snd how you address and greet them. A night's experience is made by so many factors that it's impossible to step into the same club twice snd get the same experience! I've had a great time in Augsburg for example. A tiny club with no competition nearby but some great girls and a good assortment of shapes snd sizes? Go figure!
Since they are the only FKK in town there may be a bit more attitude than in other places- agree about NRW and esp Frankfurt area. But I had no problem finding a couple sweet highly cooperative ladies who were magnificent in the rooms. Actually I met a slightly older German woman who was magnificent. Well built and very athletic (both in physique and performance).
As to the other question of curvey. I remember a higher % of thin girls but a few shapely as well.
[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2660215]Did you have any success? Ill be in Berlin the end of March, and will try Artemis, but also interested in a visitor to my hotel.[/QUOTE]
The other question of hotel vs FKK is always worth asking. If you have time to plan and access to a bit of public transport. Why not. There are good websites discussed over the years in the Berlin forum and girls are clear on what they offer. You pay a bit more but you can get exactly what you want. The main German board has some great review history (and often threads by apartment address) and either has an English version or a Google translate feature. Check out the Posts on Berlin folder in Germany (vs the FKK thread).
Also a lot of the apartment girls offer booking service (and more or less are on time). There is also hotel delivery options
Thank you for the info, as well as the others that have chimed in.
As far as the FKK attitudes, I'm not worried about that. I'm from a big US city and figure if I can handle American women and their attitude, I can handle anything.
I'll do my research about the apartments-that is an interesting option. I'll be free for Artemis Friday and Saturday evening, which I assume are the better line up nights?
Thanks again to everyone for the help-I look forward to returning the favor soon.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2653135]Open on a daily base. So called "2 G+" rules apply (vaccinated twice or overcomed disease AND additional test, available at the entrance, or vaccinated three times). Rules may change. Check in advance (www or give them a call). Expect 30 girls during evening / night.[/QUOTE]Update: Rules changed. Unaltered "2 G+" rules apply, but you don't have to register by an app or by filling a form onsite anymore.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2660945]Update: Rules changed. Unaltered "2 G+" rules apply, but you don't have to register by an app or by filling a form onsite anymore.[/QUOTE]The UK rules change this weekend for travelling, so triple vaccinated people do not have to privately test on return. I am triple vaccinated so does this mean no need for a test to enter FKK too? Thinking of going Artemis next weekend!
[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2660839]Thank you for the info. How does one find about apartments?[/QUOTE]Amazingly, ISG has whole thread on action in Berlin [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?668[/URL].
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2661143]Amazingly, ISG has whole thread on action in Berlin [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?668[/URL].[/QUOTE]That forum is as dry as the Sahara. Thanks for the efforts though.
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2661006]I am triple vaccinated so does this mean no need for a test to enter FKK too?[/QUOTE]There's no need for a test in [U]Berlin[/U] in case you've got your three shots. Other state, other rules. Have proof of vaccination and ID ready, it will be checked at Artemis entrance.
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2661006]The UK rules change this weekend for travelling, so triple vaccinated people do not have to privately test on return. I am triple vaccinated so does this mean no need for a test to enter FKK too? Thinking of going Artemis next weekend![/QUOTE]Triple poison as well! There is a flip side to that coin of deception LOL! In long term we will yet to see!
[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2661243]That forum is as dry as the Sahara. Thanks for the efforts though.[/QUOTE]Not really. Requires small effort. See 2 posts around here:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=2610601&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2610601 and just below re Berlin 101 FAQ - look for Charlie123 post 10-27-14
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1637702&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1637702
Still valid. See also berlinintim.de "newcomers" and full lists, and omello.de websites daily.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2661545]Not really. Requires small effort. See also berlinintim.de "newcomers" and full lists, and omello.de websites daily.[/QUOTE]Forgot also erotik. Markt. De and kaufmich sites. There are others. Literally hundreds of options.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2661921]Forgot also erotik. Markt. De and kaufmich sites. There are others. Literally hundreds of options.[/QUOTE]Cool. Thank you!
[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2662058]Cool. Thank you![/QUOTE]Sorry our conversation probably belongs over in the Berlin Forum but. Just to chime in again. I find BerlinIntim. De a nice website. Very comprehensive. Almost overwhelming. It does have an ENG tab. Girls in Germany has a SED card when they go indie (outside of FKK), and you can use some of the regional German websites to look up reviews. So again, if you start with Berlin, find the house. Check out the girls you can do a lot of research from the quiet of your couch. Lusthaus is a great cross reference website if you have the name of the girl, SED card, phone number or HOUSE address. A lot of the houses have their own subfolders.
Secondly. You should go through ISG Berlin forum and understand how the houses work. Won't detail here but AGAIN the German websites go into amazing detail about the room, the shower location and cleanliness, even whether the girl offers you a cold drink and the brand. :-0 All that is icing on the cake after you find a girl who offers you what YOU want. THIGHs.
For me, the pluses and minuses of Artemis are well known. If you want a smorgasbord and you want to chose how the mood feels, it's a FINE club. I've not had problems finding everything I wanted. Granted the girls know it's the only game in town, but the line up has been good. I've met a few other gentlemen who are regulars over the years and they've helped me sort the wheat from the chaff. I've always been warned to stay away from any "pair" of girls walking hand in hand as likely not worth twice the price for less than twice the service! Again too if you time is short and you can't do much research, you'll find something at half the price you'd pay in the USA.
Does anyone know the name of that super tall and skinny Half Indian / Half German girl with a bunch of tattoos? I saw her a few times in Fall 2020, but does she work there anymore?
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2663193]Sorry our conversation probably belongs over in the Berlin Forum but. Just to chime in again. I find BerlinIntim. De a nice website. Lusthaus[/QUOTE]Just support this, must also search images with TinyEye, Yandex, Google to see if pictures fake. Does not take long. BI, Kaufmich used to be more reliable; since Corona, wobbles. Lusthaus locals try to identify BS. More work, but can save time and money. Further discuss in ISG Berlin thread. Artemis advantage-what you see is what you get, but much more expensive.
[QUOTE=Hktj26;2663220]Does anyone know the name of that super tall and skinny Half Indian / Half German girl with a bunch of tattoos? I saw her a few times in Fall 2020, but does she work there anymore?[/QUOTE]I've passed her on the stairs a few times around September 2020 but forgot her name and haven't revisited since. Was she good?
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2663722]I've passed her on the stairs a few times around September 2020 but forgot her name and haven't revisited since. Was she good?[/QUOTE]The service was disastrous with constant upselling, but I'm a sucker for optics.
[QUOTE=Hktj26;2664102]The service was disastrous with constant upselling, but I'm a sucker for optics.[/QUOTE]I'll be there this weekend so I'll report back if I see her LOL.
What's funny is that I was talking to a Czech girl while this tattooed girl was talking to a Japanese guy, and she was talking so much crap to the Japanese guy about herself that we both burst out laughing at the same time. I hope it's not that quiet this time around that I can hear other people's conversions!
You are the man. Thank you for all the information. It's given me a lot of insight and resources to look in to.
I don't travel to Germany often, so its my chance to see Artemis, the legend of German FKK and cross it off my bucketlist. I'm really excited! Thanks again!
[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2664484]You are the man. Thank you for all the information. It's given me a lot of insight and resources to look in to.
I don't travel to Germany often, so its my chance to see Artemis, the legend of German FKK and cross it off my bucketlist. I'm really excited! Thanks again![/QUOTE]You are in for a treat. If you've not been to an FKK before the first visit will never leave your mind! Mine was in Artemis in 2013. After getting my towel I had to sit on a sofa for nearly an hour to hide the rock hard boner I had witnessing 120 naked women, all available to fuck walking around the club in heels. Sadly, this feeling of being the equivalent of Julias Caesar fades the more you attend, but still, the FKK model takes a lot of beating and I've mongered in many places in the World (not including Brazil or Columbia. Both on bucket list). It's pretty cheap to fuck 4-8 pretty girls in one day if you can manage it! The ability to take rest in between, professional massage, sauna, steam, Turkish bath, sunbathe, swim, go to the gym for a workout (available in Artemis) or go to the kino (porno cinema) or just the restaurant to eat, means the day is fulfilling. Remember to report back. Always great hearing how a first time visit to any FKK went.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2664627]You are in for a treat. If you've not been to an FKK before the first visit will never leave your mind! Mine was in Artemis in 2013. After getting my towel I had to sit on a sofa for nearly an hour to hide the rock hard boner I had witnessing 120 naked women, all available to fuck walking around the club in heels. Sadly, this feeling of being the equivalent of Julias Caesar fades the more you attend, but still, the FKK model takes a lot of beating and I've mongered in many places in the World (not including Brazil or Columbia. Both on bucket list). It's pretty cheap to fuck 4-8 pretty girls in one day if you can manage it! The ability to take rest in between, professional massage, sauna, steam, Turkish bath, sunbathe, swim, go to the gym for a workout (available in Artemis) or go to the kino (porno cinema) or just the restaurant to eat, means the day is fulfilling. Remember to report back. Always great hearing how a first time visit to any FKK went.[/QUOTE]Different feeling for me for my FKK discovery on end of 2012 at GT Bruggen, really disappointed by looks compare to my Russian escorts. I remember leaving many times full balls, sending message to my Russian escorts, speeding back to Paris to meet them. I needed months to find attractive in FKK land, I understood Hessen is usually higher level for looks. Now I know what are most interesting clubs for me, when escorts level fell in Paris.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2664627]You are in for a treat. If you've not been to an FKK before the first visit will never leave your mind! Mine was in Artemis in 2013. After getting my towel I had to sit on a sofa for nearly an hour to hide the rock hard boner I had witnessing 120 naked women, all available to fuck walking around the club in heels.[/QUOTE]How big is the Artemis line up these days?
[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2665177]How big is the Artemis line up these days?[/QUOTE]Expect roundabout 30 women at least, significant more during weekend nights.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2665351]Expect roundabout 30 women at least, significant more during weekend nights.[/QUOTE]30? Wow pandemic did have effect on line up! But FKK will return to full swing soon as the restriction get lifted and by summer it will be back at full swing! I think and hope! It is too risky for fly in monger to make FKK trip till this summer I think!
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2664727]Different feeling for me for my FKK discovery on end of 2012 at GT Bruggen, really disappointed by looks compare to my Russian escorts. I remember leaving many times full balls, sending message to my Russian escorts, speeding back to Paris to meet them. I needed months to find attractive in FKK land, I understood Hessen is usually higher level for looks. Now I know what are most interesting clubs for me, when escorts level fell in Paris.[/QUOTE]If its only about optics and the shag itself, then why even consider the FKK scene? You'd the be better off just finding a reliable high end escort agency, and stick to that.
I'm with PayForIt on this, its about the FKK scene. Spending a day, enjoying a night out, except just with naked women all around you, and being able to pick anyone you like and have sex with as many of them as you like. Sure, they can't all be 10's, but that's not really the point either.
[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2665365]If its only about optics and the shag itself, then why even consider the FKK scene? You'd the be better off just finding a reliable high end escort agency, and stick to that.
I'm with PayForIt on this, its about the FKK scene. Spending a day, enjoying a night out, except just with naked women all around you, and being able to pick anyone you like and have sex with as many of them as you like. Sure, they can't all be 10's, but that's not really the point either.[/QUOTE]That's the point. The FKK scene offers something that for me, is unrivalled. I love the clubs in Spain. I love the bars in Thailand and whole streets (Sois) with bars with girls spilling out. But FKK is really something else. To get to a club mid afternoon, gym, sauna, shower, sex for an hour, shower, food, sunbathe with pretty naked women around you, maybe a second shot, recovery, evening meal, few beers, chat with a few fellow mongers, be surrounded by 100+ naked women, choose your favourites. Its unbeatable.
In fairness to Sirioja I will accept this: sadly. All of the above does wear off the more a guy attends. All the activities are still great, but nudity actually becomes a bit boring! Never thought I would think or write that but it is true. Oh for sure you get to see what you are buying so no hidden disappointments compared to selecting from a club / bar, but I long for some sexy clothes on a girl after 3 days consecutively in FKK land. But it doesn't stop me going, and for the first timer, it is heaven on earth!
[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2665365]If its only about optics and the shag itself, then why even consider the FKK scene? You'd the be better off just finding a reliable high end escort agency, and stick to that.
I'm with PayForIt on this, its about the FKK scene. Spending a day, enjoying a night out, except just with naked women all around you, and being able to pick anyone you like and have sex with as many of them as you like. Sure, they can't all be 10's, but that's not really the point either.[/QUOTE]Because escorts level fell in Paris. Yes I enjoyed good foods and wellness at 6 on Saturday, but I prefer to find beauties who make me dream like today. I drive from far for this.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2665382]That's the point. The FKK scene offers something that for me, is unrivalled. I love the clubs in Spain. I love the bars in Thailand and whole streets (Sois) with bars with girls spilling out. But FKK is really something else. To get to a club mid afternoon, gym, sauna, shower, sex for an hour, shower, food, sunbathe with pretty naked women around you, maybe a second shot, recovery, evening meal, few beers, chat with a few fellow mongers, be surrounded by 100+ naked women, choose your favourites. Its unbeatable.
[/QUOTE]If you live in a country where Prostitution is mostly illegal, then you also have to go through the "search" for the girl and then the verification system (either an email with references or a pay / for / sex verification site like P411). Then you have to wait to confirm you are cleared then you can schedule. So even on a good day, if you don't have a regular you like or a escort agency, the process takes forever. FKK = spontaneity, ease. And as PayForIt says. Optics. I suspect most very good restaurants are not buffets but occasionally a buffet is the best.
Another thing that's been debated or bitched about is that a lot of foreigners (mea culpa) are willing to overpay as their home country is quite expensive. It is not uncommon to pay $600 for a single fuck (esp anal). So for $600 I can have a pretty good time all night in a FKK. PLUS argue as you will, most nights there are not a lot of 8/9/10's but when I am there long enough my "little me" begins to up the rating of the girls until many seem like at least 8's.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2665762].most nights there are not a lot of 8/9/10's but when I am there long enough my "little me" begins to up the rating of the girls until many seem like at least 8's.[/QUOTE]LOL. I run a system some times, action plan in advance.
1st room of the day focused on a great ass, doggy or reverse cowboy.
2nd room, big tits. Cowboy ride.
3rd room, pretty face, BBBJ.
Sometime I decide for black ass if that's on the menu, or 2 girls (although that very rarely is as good as the thought of it).
The system help selection greatly and you can have at least an 8 if not 9 in every element of the system.
Or as TinTin1 so nicely put it, just wait until the wee hours, pretty much everything becomes an 8.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2665382]That's the point. The FKK scene offers something that for me, is unrivalled. I love the clubs in Spain. I love the bars in Thailand and whole streets (Sois) with bars with girls spilling out. But FKK is really something else. To get to a club mid afternoon, gym, sauna, shower, sex for an hour, shower, food, sunbathe with pretty naked women around you, maybe a second shot, recovery, evening meal, few beers, chat with a few fellow mongers, be surrounded by 100+ naked women, choose your favourites. Its unbeatable.
In fairness to Sirioja I will accept this: sadly. All of the above does wear off the more a guy attends. All the activities are still great, but nudity actually becomes a bit boring! Never thought I would think or write that but it is true. Oh for sure you get to see what you are buying so no hidden disappointments compared to selecting from a club / bar, but I long for some sexy clothes on a girl after 3 days consecutively in FKK land. But it doesn't stop me going, and for the first timer, it is heaven on earth![/QUOTE]More elegance and charm in lingerie or sexy dress with normal heels rather than prostitute heels to look supermodel when 160 on the floor.
Since my last visit, Tegel airport has closed. Brandenburg is unfortunately much further away, but Terminal 1&2 are really impressive. Very short queues at passport control due to number of officers, I had my vaccine certs and digital registration ready for checking so managed to pass through within 5 minutes. Two floors below arrivals there's a clearly signposted S-Bahn station, S9 (to Spandau) takes you to Westkreuz in around an hour and they depart every 20 minutes. Zone ABC single ticket is 3,90. FFP2 mask is mandatory.
Artemis is a few minutes walk from Westkreuz station. Security use a phone with a government app that validates QR codes for vaccination (booster) or negative test or proof of recovery in addition to photo ID. Entry is 90 now. Same old wrist strap NFC tag for lockers, small locker for wallet / phone and larger locker for clothes / bag in changing room.
I prefer to go straight downstairs to the wellness area to shower since it's a bit more private, I'd rather not get my cock out in front of around 6 other dudes. I missed the breakfast buffet so I just went to the upstairs bar to get a soft drink, alcoholic drink tokens cost 10 at reception. I spent around 2 hours just assessing my options, there were around 20 ladies at 5 pm and none were appealing to me. Eventually went with a safe option that I knew wouldn't rush me since I cum quick first time.
Ginger (ROM) size 8, straight red / brown hair, natural looking 32 the but quite firm to hold, quite tanned almost Indian looking, facially 8. I just asked to play with her tits for a while, she offered OWO for 20 extra but I declined. I then fucked her slowly in mish until I popped. We then just had a catch up on stuff and some chat about our investments, she was a bit disappointed when I called time on the sesh! I should be charging her haha or at least some discount on extras. 70.
Katalia (BUL) size 8, long straight black hair, 32 see natural tits, facially 8. 5. She had this quite seductive way of approaching me that worked well for the chap downstairs. Upselling OWO / kissing from the moment we entered the room which I declined. Good OW and she straddled me in cowgirl with lots energy and fake moaning and eye contact until I popped. 70.
Evening Buffet: (self service) Chicken, rice, noodles, fruit and choc mouse. Decent but nothing special 7/10.
Nicole (CZE) I saw her last time and spoke with her again shortly after I arrived but decided to give her another try after food. Tall size 10, blonde, natural looking but firm 34 e, 7 facially with big lips. Tried upselling anal but I declined. Great OW and straddled me in cowgirl with lots of energy and dirty talk until I came. No rush to leave the room and we chatted for a bit. 70.
Melanie (ROM) Short curvy size 10 with natural 34 DDs, short blonde hair, really soft skin, she was the most natural girl there, facially 8/10. No upsell, she softly sucked on my nipples and kissed my body down to my cock. Good long OWO and she encouraged me to put her hands wherever I wanted. Eventually she straddled me in cowgirl with lots of energy and close face to face eye contact until I popped. We chatted for a while afterwards so no rush to leave. 70.
Avril (ROM) Tall, pale skin, 32 see fake tits, platted red hair, stockings. She recognised me earlier from a previous visit but I didn't fancy her for the first fuck of the day since she's quite intense. She was still around at midnight, gets plenty of action being the only redhead but was free so took her upstairs. Started off with her sucking my nipples and playfully stroking me. Some really good OW, followed by really energetic cowgirl with lots of close face to face eye contact and fake moaning. She upped the pace and was slamming up and down so fast that I had to tell her to slow down. Eventually switched to doggy, there were mirrors beside the bed so got a nice view. I wasn't going to cum so she finished me off by hand. Chatted for a while afterwards. 70.
It wasn't that busy for a Saturday night and there was probably only one 10/10 stunner level girl. The DJ was excellent and the ladies looked like they were really enjoying themselves, dancing around like groups of girls in a regular club, some guys were even joining in. I decided to leave at 2 am and catch the S-Bahn back to the airport. The S9 route back to Brandenburg takes 1 HR 25 minutes after midnight due to stopping longer at some stations but only comes along every 30 min.
If you only want to shag 10/10 girls then I'd wait until around May when the weather picks up and more restrictions are eased. But the girl: guy ratio is currently quite favourable (I'd say 60:40) so I don't mind too much. The main negative is that everyone must wear a FFP2 mask when walking around the club so it's difficult to judge what a girl looks like until she sits down and takes it off!
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2666148]Since my last visit, Tegel airport has closed.[/QUOTE]Oops. BER opened in fall 2020. It's a long time you've been away. Thanks for your great report.
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2666148]Katalia (BUL) size 8, long straight black hair, 32 see natural tits, facially 8. 5. She had this quite seductive way of approaching me that worked well for the chap downstairs. Upselling OWO / kissing from the moment we entered the room which I declined. Good OW and she straddled me in cowgirl with lots energy and fake moaning and eye contact until I popped. 70.[/QUOTE]Call her: Katarina.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2666473]Oops. BER opened in fall 2020. It's a long time you've been away. Thanks for your great report.
Call her: Katarina.[/QUOTE]Yeah September 2020 was my last trip!
It was definitely Katalia, I thought it was Natalia at first and she had to correct me in the room LOL.
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2666148]I prefer to go straight downstairs to the wellness area to shower since it's a bit more private, I'd rather not get my cock out in front of around 6 other dudes.[/QUOTE]Wtf, I've been twice and never realized there was a whole downstairs area with private showers instead of freaking prison showers. Great tip for next time, thanks!
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2666148]Since my last visit, Tegel airport has closed. Brandenburg is unfortunately much further away, but Terminal 1&2 are really impressive. Very short queues at passport control due to number of officers, I had my vaccine certs and digital registration ready for checking so managed to pass through within 5 minutes. Two floors below arrivals there's a clearly signposted S-Bahn station, S9 (to Spandau) takes you to Westkreuz in around an hour and they depart every 20 minutes. Zone ABC single ticket is 3,90. FFP2 mask is mandatory.
Artemis is a few minutes walk from Westkreuz station. Security use a phone with a government app that validates QR codes for vaccination (booster) or negative test or proof of recovery in addition to photo ID. Entry is 90 now. Same old wrist strap NFC tag for lockers, small locker for wallet / phone and larger locker for clothes / bag in changing room.
I prefer to go straight downstairs to the wellness area to shower since it's a bit more private, I'd rather not get my cock out in front of around 6 other dudes. I missed the breakfast buffet so I just went to the upstairs bar to get a soft drink, alcoholic drink tokens cost 10 at reception. I spent around 2 hours just assessing my options, there were around 20 ladies at 5 pm and none were appealing to me. Eventually went with a safe option that I knew wouldn't rush me since I cum quick first time.
Ginger (ROM) size 8, straight red / brown hair, natural looking 32 the but quite firm to hold, quite tanned almost Indian looking, facially 8. I just asked to play with her tits for a while, she offered OWO for 20 extra but I declined. I then fucked her slowly in mish until I popped. We then just had a catch up on stuff and some chat about our investments, she was a bit disappointed when I called time on the sesh! I should be charging her haha or at least some discount on extras. 70.
Katalia (BUL) size 8, long straight black hair, 32 see natural tits, facially 8. 5. She had this quite seductive way of approaching me that worked well for the chap downstairs. Upselling OWO / kissing from the moment we entered the room which I declined. Good OW and she straddled me in cowgirl with lots energy and fake moaning and eye contact until I popped. 70.
Evening Buffet: (self service) Chicken, rice, noodles, fruit and choc mouse. Decent but nothing special 7/10.
Nicole (CZE) I saw her last time and spoke with her again shortly after I arrived but decided to give her another try after food. Tall size 10, blonde, natural looking but firm 34 e, 7 facially with big lips. Tried upselling anal but I declined. Great OW and straddled me in cowgirl with lots of energy and dirty talk until I came. No rush to leave the room and we chatted for a bit. 70.
Melanie (ROM) Short curvy size 10 with natural 34 DDs, short blonde hair, really soft skin, she was the most natural girl there, facially 8/10. No upsell, she softly sucked on my nipples and kissed my body down to my cock. Good long OWO and she encouraged me to put her hands wherever I wanted. Eventually she straddled me in cowgirl with lots of energy and close face to face eye contact until I popped. We chatted for a while afterwards so no rush to leave. 70.
Avril (ROM) Tall, pale skin, 32 see fake tits, platted red hair, stockings. She recognised me earlier from a previous visit but I didn't fancy her for the first fuck of the day since she's quite intense. She was still around at midnight, gets plenty of action being the only redhead but was free so took her upstairs. Started off with her sucking my nipples and playfully stroking me. Some really good OW, followed by really energetic cowgirl with lots of close face to face eye contact and fake moaning. She upped the pace and was slamming up and down so fast that I had to tell her to slow down. Eventually switched to doggy, there were mirrors beside the bed so got a nice view. I wasn't going to cum so she finished me off by hand. Chatted for a while afterwards. 70.
It wasn't that busy for a Saturday night and there was probably only one 10/10 stunner level girl. The DJ was excellent and the ladies looked like they were really enjoying themselves, dancing around like groups of girls in a regular club, some guys were even joining in. I decided to leave at 2 am and catch the S-Bahn back to the airport. The S9 route back to Brandenburg takes 1 HR 25 minutes after midnight due to stopping longer at some stations but only comes along every 30 min.
If you only want to shag 10/10 girls then I'd wait until around May when the weather picks up and more restrictions are eased. But the girl: guy ratio is currently quite favourable (I'd say 60:40) so I don't mind too much. The main negative is that everyone must wear a FFP2 mask when walking around the club so it's difficult to judge what a girl looks like until she sits down and takes it off![/QUOTE]Thanks for an entertaining report!
Can not wait to return to A!
Just an advise. : From BER, take the FEX train to either Ostkreutz or Gesundbrunnen and change to the Ring-line (41/42), the same ticket (ABC). Will save you about 15 minutes. See more details at bvg. De.
[QUOTE=BlueSwede;2667105]Thanks for an entertaining report!
Can not wait to return to A!
Just an advise. : From BER, take the FEX train to either Ostkreutz or Gesundbrunnen and change to the Ring-line (41/42), the same ticket (ABC). Will save you about 15 minutes. See more details at bvg. De.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I did consider this but I panic too much when the change times are really tight, especially if I'm not familiar with the platform layout. The weather was also not brilliant, so didn't want to take chances on route closures. The direct route was worth the extra 15 minutes, it passes very quickly if you take a good book with you. Just wanted to also mention that Westkreuz station almost always has 4 police officers outside at night, so it's quite safe.
I did once make friends with a guy from malmo who took the same train to the airport with me, which was nice to have company. Was this you? Haha
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2666973]It was definitely Katalia, I thought it was Natalia at first and she had to correct me in the room LOL.[/QUOTE]Nathalia. Once upon a time. - Katalia vs Katarina. You remember any piercings, tattoos?
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2667378]Nathalia. Once upon a time. - Katalia vs Katarina. You remember any piercings, tattoos?[/QUOTE]Nope, no tats or piercings.
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2667191]Thanks. I did consider this but I panic too much when the change times are really tight, especially if I'm not familiar with the platform layout. The weather was also not brilliant, so didn't want to take chances on route closures. The direct route was worth the extra 15 minutes, it passes very quickly if you take a good book with you. Just wanted to also mention that Westkreuz station almost always has 4 police officers outside at night, so it's quite safe.
I did once make friends with a guy from malmo who took the same train to the airport with me, which was nice to have company. Was this you? Haha[/QUOTE]Have to admin that I roamed around a bit at Ostkreutz to find the train. Next time will be better.
No, it wasn't me. .
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2666148]Since my last visit, Tegel airport has closed. Brandenburg is unfortunately much further away, but Terminal 1&2 are really impressive. Very short queues at passport control due to number of officers, I had my vaccine certs and digital registration ready for checking so managed to pass through within 5 minutes. Two floors below arrivals there's a clearly signposted S-Bahn station, S9 (to Spandau) takes you to Westkreuz in around an hour and they depart every 20 minutes. Zone ABC single ticket is 3,90. FFP2 mask is mandatory.
Artemis is a few minutes walk from Westkreuz station. Security use a phone with a government app that validates QR codes for vaccination (booster) or negative test or proof of recovery in addition to photo ID. Entry is 90 now. Same old wrist strap NFC tag for lockers, small locker for wallet / phone and larger locker for clothes / bag in changing room.
I prefer to go straight downstairs to the wellness area to shower since it's a bit more private, I'd rather not get my cock out in front of around 6 other dudes. I missed the breakfast buffet so I just went to the upstairs bar to get a soft drink, alcoholic drink tokens cost 10 at reception. I spent around 2 hours just assessing my options, there were around 20 ladies at 5 pm and none were appealing to me. Eventually went with a safe option that I knew wouldn't rush me since I cum quick first time.[/QUOTE]Oh, so Artemis raised the price to 70 euro and also entrance was raised, but they provide Oral without condom for 70 euro of standard price?
If so, fair enough raise of pricing at Artemis and is justified!
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2667394]Nope, no tats or piercings.[/QUOTE]Okay, checked it. Bulgarian girl named Katarina was off last week. And she's got some small tattoos too. IMHO maybe you've had the pleasure with Kataleya from Bulgaria or so. Different spellings available.
[QUOTE=Carpaccio18;2666099]1st room of the day focused on a great ass, doggy or reverse cowboy.
2nd room, big tits. Cowboy ride.
3rd room, pretty face, BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Ha ha, this is great, why I have never thought off that?
I'm considering going to Artemis first weekend of April. How many girls will there be? How many girls has been there lately? Is it even worth taking the trip. Advice is soo appreciated. Love this forum.
[QUOTE=SuperStuder;2668759]How many girls will there be? How many girls has been there lately? [/QUOTE]Expect approx 50 girls during weekend nights. Sometimes more, sometimes less.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2668903]Expect approx 50 girls during weekend nights. Sometimes more, sometimes less.[/QUOTE]Something tells me there are guys who will argue none of these 50+ do it for them.
[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2669002]Something tells me there are guys who will argue none of these 50+ do it for them.[/QUOTE]Usually in Artemis, I find one or two stunners! But it really did decline from its golden era of early 2010's when I used to find 3 to 5 stunners every day for sure! And new ones came every week! So I used to do 10 days FKK trip to Artemis to taste two weeks, 2 different set of line up! Now only one or two stunners in line up, but it still do for me!
But let us see how post pandemic Artemis is going to be like! 2010 to around 2013 amazing! 2014 begin to notice the decline, 2015 I stopped going and switch to Hessen FKK and NRW FKK, then in 2019 Artemis when I went back, it was good line up again, not as good, but satisfied enough! After pandemic Artemis we are going to see around this summer will be something I wait to know how it will be!
Is some of the old ladies still around? I'm thinking about Carrie, Kisha / Felicity, Aileen if anyone knows it will be useful info.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2670328]After pandemic Artemis we are going to see around this summer will be something I wait to know how it will be![/QUOTE]I' m looking forward too.
Hello,
This is my first time to visit an FKK so I was wondering when is the best time to visit and if it is better to visit on Friday or Saturday?
Thank you guys really appreciate your help.
[QUOTE=Nono321;2672121]This is my first time to visit an FKK so I was wondering when is the best time to visit and if it is better to visit on Friday or Saturday?[/QUOTE]IMHO in spring 2022 it's a good idea to visit Friday or Sunday. There's really no difference between these days / nights. Maybe Saturday is a little bit more busy.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2672429]IMHO in spring 2022 it's a good idea to visit Friday or Sunday. There's really no difference between these days / nights. Maybe Saturday is a little bit more busy.[/QUOTE]Also do you know please where I can change my clothes if there are several places.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2672429]IMHO in spring 2022 it's a good idea to visit Friday or Sunday. There's really no difference between these days / nights. Maybe Saturday is a little bit more busy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nono321;2672121]Hello,
This is my first time to visit an FKK so I was wondering when is the best time to visit and if it is better to visit on Friday or Saturday?
Thank you guys really appreciate your help.[/QUOTE]I agree with Pharisaer, But also remember it is just as important to consider what time of the day you visit. I'm a little uncertain if "peak" times are the same as preCovid. But if I remember 7-9 was the most crowded.
[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2669002]Something tells me there are guys who will argue none of these 50+ do it for them.[/QUOTE]Joe, Are you talking about me (Joke). I went to a couple clubs in NRW area in 2019 early in the week, with under a dozen girls. Also earlier in the evening because of work issues. It wasn't a depth of riches, but I found a couple girls in each club. I would say it depends on what you want. I didn't go expeccting there to be a Penthouse / Playboy line up but I did find a few very cute girls. One club had an Italian girl who had just started that week. I mean. WON THE LOTTERY!
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2672445]I agree with Pharisaer, But also remember it is just as important to consider what time of the day you visit. I'm a little uncertain if "peak" times are the same as preCovid. But if I remember 7-9 was the most crowded.[/QUOTE]So does anyone recommend a timing to go there to have a good experience.
Sorry guys, I wasn't able to find this info. I'm an extra EU citizen and I don't have any green pass or barcode for EU standards that proves my double vaccination which I have done of course. I have an official certificate emitted by my government which is wildly recognized by many countries (whole Europe) but I don't know if they going to accept it at the entrance of Artemis. Any other proves I can show except the barcode? I'm traveling to Berlin for a day just to visit the club after more than 2 years and I don't want to find a bad surprise and eventually kicked out. Thanks!
Sorry guys, I wasn't able to find this info. I'm an extra EU citizen and I don't have any green pass or barcode for EU standards that proves my double vaccination which I have done of course. I have an official certificate emitted by my government which is wildly recognized by many countries (whole Europe) but I don't know if they going to accept it at the entrance of Artemis. Any other proves I can show except the barcode? I'm traveling to Berlin for a day just to visit the club after more than 2 years and I don't want to find a bad surprise and eventually kicked out. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Nono321;2672447]So does anyone recommend a timing to go there to have a good experience.[/QUOTE]Look honestly, read the reports. Go on Lusthaus and read the last 2 weeks of daily reports by people who went. Notice what time they went what they claim to see. I don't think at this point anyone can "guarantee" anything. Just go. If it's not the best it will still be better than almost anything you can get in your home country. It's like skiing. A bad day of skiing is better than any day in the office.
[QUOTE=PussyTamer;2672452]Sorry guys, I wasn't able to find this info. I'm an extra EU citizen and I don't have any green pass or barcode for EU standards that proves my double vaccination which I have done of course. I have an official certificate emitted by my government which is wildly recognized by many countries (whole Europe) but I don't know if they going to accept it at the entrance of Artemis. Any other proves I can show except the barcode? I'm traveling to Berlin for a day just to visit the club after more than 2 years and I don't want to find a bad surprise and eventually kicked out. Thanks![/QUOTE]I only know France where you go into a pharmacy and they give you the official card / bar code. I "believe" Germany has the same system. You go in with your country specific documents and they give you the certificate for your phone. Google is your friend.
[QUOTE=PussyTamer;2672448]... but I don't know if they going to accept it at the entrance of Artemis.[/QUOTE]Don't worry. If front desk staff doesn't accept your proof of vaccination, rapid antigen test is available at the entrance.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2672445]I'm a little uncertain if "peak" times are the same as preCovid. But if I remember 7-9 was the most crowded.[/QUOTE]Absolutely not the same as preCovid. No crowd. Maybe there will be a crowd when Fruit Logistica is back in the beginning of April. - IMHO best time to start a visit is between 6 pm and 8 pm. Morning shift girls still working, night shift girls start working. Largest number of girls between 6 pm and 10 pm.
[QUOTE=Nono321;2672431]Also do you know please where I can change my clothes if there are several places.[/QUOTE]There's a large gents changing room straight ahead from the front desk. Front desk staff will explain everything. Just ask. Or give them a honest answer, when they turn in ask: "Your first time here?
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2672800]Don't worry. If front desk staff doesn't accept your proof of vaccination, rapid antigen test is available at the entrance.[/QUOTE]The FKK in Germany still require covid certificate or PCR tests etc? I thought restrictions are all gone?
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2672802] There's a large gents changing room straight ahead from the front desk. Front desk staff will explain everything. Just ask. Or give them a honest answer, when they turn in ask: "Your first time here?[/QUOTE]I get Artemis' facilities confused in my head with one of the clubs in Frankfurt. I *think* Artemis is the one with two lockers per person. One in the changing room for your clothes and one in an entry area for your wallet and valuables. I actually think this is a benefit. Always seemed odd to me you have sex then go into the locker room with guys changing to get the cash. I've seen a few of the ladies follow the client in to make sure they got their fee!
And yes. Let them explain it. But once you've been to one club they all seem to follow a similar system. Get the wristband. Use it to charge drinks etc etc.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2673097]I get Artemis' facilities confused in my head with one of the clubs in Frankfurt. I *think* Artemis is the one with two lockers per person. One in the changing room for your clothes and one in an entry area for your wallet and valuables. I actually think this is a benefit. Always seemed odd to me you have sex then go into the locker room with guys changing to get the cash. I've seen a few of the ladies follow the client in to make sure they got their fee!
And yes. Let them explain it. But once you've been to one club they all seem to follow a similar system. Get the wristband. Use it to charge drinks etc etc.[/QUOTE]Yes. They pretty much all have the two locker system. One in the locker room and a small one in the club for wallet and condoms or whatever.
Artemis is distinguished (at least for me) in that it has a gym (don't recall that at others) and all wellness facilities in the basement.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2672820]The FKK in Germany still require covid certificate or PCR tests etc? I thought restrictions are all gone?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]3G Rules apply, Rapid Antigen Tests are available on site.
According to current regulations, contact tracing will no longer be carried out!
Your Artemis-Team
[url]https://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/environment[/url][/QUOTE]I don't think theyll ever get rid of restrictions.
[QUOTE=DasBooty;2673409]I don't think theyll ever get rid of restrictions.[/QUOTE]As far as I read, in Switzerland they did, so I imagine Europe will or did too?
[QUOTE=MrHo;2672820]The FKK in Germany still require covid certificate or PCR tests etc? I thought restrictions are all gone?[/QUOTE]Yes, certificates etc still required. Restrictions are withdrawn, but not completely gone.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2673589]Yes, certificates etc still required. Restrictions are withdrawn, but not completely gone.[/QUOTE]OK, so I can only go to Zurich to monger then! I think it will be like so for whole this year, maybe till summer time!
In two weeks I will finally visit a FKK for my maiden voyage. What is the typical age range of women on a weekend night?
From reading the past comments, Fri / Sat night are the best times to go. Does this still stand true as we approach the end of CV19?
Thanks to past reviewers for the great reports!
[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2673647]What is the typical age range of women on a weekend night?[/QUOTE]It's a difficult question, usually they don't tell you the truth about their age. Okay. Let's assume that the range is between 18 yo and 45 yo, and average maybe 30 yo. If you prefer younger women, you'd better choose another place.
[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2673647]From reading the past comments, Fri / Sat night are the best times to go. Does this still stand true as we approach the end of CV19?[/QUOTE]Yes, I think so.
Enjoy your maiden vivit!
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2673881]It's a difficult question, usually they don't tell you the truth about their age. Okay. Let's assume that the range is between 18 yo and 45 yo, and average maybe 30 yo. If you prefer younger women, you'd better choose another place.
Yes, I think so.
Enjoy your maiden vivit![/QUOTE]I appreciate you. Thank you!
I'm 45, so I'dprefer under 30, but not 18, not my age either-I can get that in my hometown. Haha!
Artemis has a core group that has stayed faithful to and aged with the venue: they were in their early twenties around 2012, and are now in their early 30 ies. You wouldn't go to Artemis for the average, though, but for the exception: your individual find. Very young girls are a rarity.
[QUOTE=TeFab456;2673982]Artemis has a core group that has stayed faithful to and aged with the venue: they were in their early twenties around 2012, and are now in their early 30 ies. You wouldn't go to Artemis for the average, though, but for the exception: your individual find. Very young girls are a rarity.[/QUOTE]My fingers are crossed that these loyal ladies have aged gracefully along with Artemis?
Another random question. Is Artemis always loud, like a strip club?
[QUOTE=TeFab456;2673982]Artemis has a core group that has stayed faithful to and aged with the venue: they were in their early twenties around 2012, and are now in their early 30 ies. You wouldn't go to Artemis for the average, though, but for the exception: your individual find. Very young girls are a rarity.[/QUOTE]The old group Artemis have to get rid of, Kennan, please get more young beautiful girls, we do not want to go to nursery home to fuck grand ma in their 30's LOL!
We only want 20's LOL!
[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2673647]In two weeks I will finally visit a FKK for my maiden voyage. What is the typical age range of women on a weekend night?
From reading the past comments, Fri / Sat night are the best times to go. Does this still stand true as we approach the end of CV19?
Thanks to past reviewers for the great reports![/QUOTE]I would still say that nothing is YET typical, the pandemic has changed all that. If you want guarantees go to Frankfurt. At least you have 5-6 FKKs to chose from. 2 majors snd a handful of minors. You are bound to find a smorgasbord of types shapes ages hair colors etc. If you have to be in Berlin, Artemis is an oasis. Or should I say caravandary? Still if you have to go then the biggest choice is on Fri snd Sat! Typically 7-9 pm. If you don't like what you see. Go in BerlinIntim website and order take out!
Hi guys,
I have not visited an FKK since 2013 and would like to know what the rates are with the girls.
Thanks for your help.
[QUOTE=Danisp;2676226]I have not visited an FKK since 2013 and would like to know what the rates are with the girls.[/QUOTE]Entrance fee 90 Euro. Alcoholic drinks 10 Euro each, tokens available at front desk. - Girls charge 70 Euro per 30 minutes standard service covered blowjob and sex. Prices for extra service may vary, just ask the girl.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2676602]Entrance fee 90 Euro. Alcoholic drinks 10 Euro each, tokens available at front desk. - Girls charge 70 Euro per 30 minutes standard service covered blowjob and sex. Prices for extra service may vary, just ask the girl.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information.
I will be there in two weeks, I hope to post an useful report.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2676602]Entrance fee 90 Euro. Alcoholic drinks 10 Euro each, tokens available at front desk. - Girls charge 70 Euro per 30 minutes standard service covered blowjob and sex. Prices for extra service may vary, just ask the girl.[/QUOTE]Extra service is standard +20€ for traditional old school BJ.
[QUOTE=Danisp;2676633]Thanks for the information.
I will be there in two weeks, I hope to post an useful report.[/QUOTE]In two weeks? Howdy, maybe it will be a little bit crowded between 5th April and 7th April because of Fruit Logistica. Enjoy your visit!
Hello all,
I am from the US, and am visiting Berlin in May. Will my CDC Vaccine card be sufficient to get me into Artemis? We don't have any official digital vax shit in the US.
Also, what are the current rates in Artemis for the girls? When I last went in 2018 it was 60 euros for 30 minutes. What are they asking for now? Also. How's the lineup.
[QUOTE=Apotheon;2677642]Hello all,
I am from the US, and am visiting Berlin in May. Will my CDC Vaccine card be sufficient to get me into Artemis? We don't have any official digital vax shit in the US.
Also, what are the current rates in Artemis for the girls? When I last went in 2018 it was 60 euros for 30 minutes. What are they asking for now? Also. How's the lineup.[/QUOTE]Someone just answered the price question 4 posts below yours.
[QUOTE=Apotheon;2677642]Will my CDC Vaccine card be sufficient to get me into Artemis? How's the lineup.[/QUOTE]Your CDC card may not work, but it's worth a try. Nevertheless, rapid antigene tests available at the entrance. Lineup nowadays 60 or 70 girls during weekend nights. - All facts subject of change 'til May.
[QUOTE=Apotheon;2677642]Hello all,
I am from the US, and am visiting Berlin in May. Will my CDC Vaccine card be sufficient to get me into Artemis? We don't have any official digital vax shit in the US..[/QUOTE]The question of what is going to be required in may changes daily. Hell we don't even know what you will be required to show to get back into the US!
IN GENERAL, you get off the plane, drop your suitcase and take your ass and your stuff to a pharmacy and get a GERMAN document. You'll need this for anything you do in May outside of sitting in a hotel and watching TV. It's the same in France, Spain etc. If you are not EU citizen the only question is can you use the temporary cards from one country in another, not whether you need them.
Almost everyone in a pharmacy in Berlin speaks English. Asking what the line up will be like in May is like asking what the stock market is going to be like. If you can answer that with certainty (and just tell me) I'll pay for your night in Artemis.
Had a nice time at Artemis on Thursday. There were actually quite a few good options available. Surprisingly more than my last few visits to Artemis pre-pandemic. My first room was with one of my all-time favs, Avril. I have a thing for pale skinned redheads (even if it's dyed red). Avril's body is just as good as ever, if not better. Same goes for her service. Enjoyed the kissing, the OWO, DT, and main event. I intended to go back to the room with her a second time, but by the time I was ready to go again, she was unavailable. I waited for a bit, and ended up having my second room with Maria, a spinner claiming to be from Bulgaria. She was all business with lots of attempts to upsell, and it was not a very good session. I should have just waited for Avril or gone with someone else, like a skinny brunette named Katerina who seemed more personable.
The outdoor area was closed, which is always disappointing to me. I prefer the hot tub outside and the sauna outside. I also liked the self serve drink station they used to have outside. The pool in the basement is a bit too cold and the sauna is usually crowded.
[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2680842]Had a nice time at Artemis on Thursday. There were actually quite a few good options available. Surprisingly more than my last few visits to Artemis pre-pandemic. My first room was with one of my all-time favs, Avril. I have a thing for pale skinned redheads (even if it's dyed red). Avril's body is just as good as ever, if not better. Same goes for her service. Enjoyed the kissing, the OWO, DT, and main event. I intended to go back to the room with her a second time, but by the time I was ready to go again, she was unavailable. I waited for a bit, and ended up having my second room with Maria, a spinner claiming to be from Bulgaria. She was all business with lots of attempts to upsell, and it was not a very good session. I should have just waited for Avril or gone with someone else, like a skinny brunette named Katerina who seemed more personable.
The outdoor area was closed, which is always disappointing to me. I prefer the hot tub outside and the sauna outside. I also liked the self serve drink station they used to have outside. The pool in the basement is a bit too cold and the sauna is usually crowded.[/QUOTE]Out door area was closed? You mean you cannot even go there or? I love that separate building steam room, many memories of preparing myself in that steam room between sessions LOL!
[QUOTE=MrHo;2681284]Out door area was closed? You mean you cannot even go there or? I love that separate building steam room, many memories of preparing myself in that steam room between sessions LOL![/QUOTE]Well, you can go outside, but everything is closed. The pool was covered and taped off. The hot tub was taped off. The sauna area was locked with a sign saying it's closed. I'm disappointed whenever I show up and that stuff is closed. Like yourself, I enjoyed relaxing between sessions in the outdoor area, especially the jacuzzi and sauna. The outdoor area is always open during the summer months, but I've been there before on non-summer October and April days when it was open. Maybe they will open it up again in the next few weeks if the weather warms up.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2676602]Entrance fee 90 Euro. Alcoholic drinks 10 Euro each, tokens available at front desk. - Girls charge 70 Euro per 30 minutes standard service covered blowjob and sex. Prices for extra service may vary, just ask the girl.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kartoffel;2676687]Extra service is standard +20 for traditional old school BJ.[/QUOTE]I've found there's often been an upcharge for a 30 minute visit but if you ask about an hour, and you are patient, I. E. Not going with the first girl you see, it's only special requests that cost more. Again it's a new wild Post see ride, so who knows.
[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2681357]Well, you can go outside, but everything is closed. The pool was covered and taped off. The hot tub was taped off. The sauna area was locked with a sign saying it's closed. I'm disappointed whenever I show up and that stuff is closed. Like yourself, I enjoyed relaxing between sessions in the outdoor area, especially the jacuzzi and sauna. The outdoor area is always open during the summer months, but I've been there before on non-summer October and April days when it was open. Maybe they will open it up again in the next few weeks if the weather warms up.[/QUOTE]I think Artemis still have some space where they can make open air room! I hope they will do that because I want to have some privacy, but fuck in open air LOL!
Arrived 22.30 and it seems that Artemis is 0 G, you just enter the place without showing anything. You don't even have to wear a mask anymore! I'd say there were about 30 girls and 40-50 guys present. Quality of the girls wasn't the best and I was disappointed but I still managed to have two 30 min sessions. As I was really tired when I arrived both sessions involved 20% fucking and 80 % BBBJTC.
Girl 1. Hungarian / German blonde. Not very pretty but had nice dick sucking lips, big natural boobs and a medium ass. Other than her being a bit butch the session was good.
Girl 2. Colombian with black hair. Pretty face, medium boobs and a big ass. Great attitude and service.
Inflation has not hit Artemis, prices were the same as from my last visit in July 2021:
70€ for 30 min, 20€ for BBBJ and 50€ for CIM.
Contemplated on going for a third session but being tired and the lineup not so enticing I decided not to. While I was paying the Colombiana two young American newbies (looked to be about 20) were asking me how everything works at Artemis and of course I helped them out. Before I take a last tour of the premises I head to toilet downstairs and catch a glimpse of a blond girl on her knees giving a BJ in the cinema (front row). I finish my business in the toilet and head to the cinema but pretend to be going to the gym. Turns out It's one of the young yanks getting a BJ from two skinny blondes! From newbie to pro, haha. As I am walking back from the gym I pass them and one of the girls smiles joyfully at me and says HELLO. My dick reacted positively and wanted to go say HELLO but my brain said no, so I went upstairs to get dressed and finally left Artemis at 02.30.
I expected a much busier ambiance given that there were no restrictions but according to the girls this was a busy night, but the rooms downstairs were always empty and there was never a queue upstairs.
[QUOTE=DasBooty;2681751]Arrived 22.30 and it seems that Artemis is 0 G, you just enter the place without showing anything. You don't even have to wear a mask anymore! I'd say there were about 30 girls and 40-50 guys present. Quality of the girls wasn't the best and I was disappointed but I still managed to have two 30 min sessions. As I was really tired when I arrived both sessions involved 20% fucking and 80 % BBBJTC.
Girl 1. Hungarian / German blonde. Not very pretty but had nice dick sucking lips, big natural boobs and a medium ass. Other than her being a bit butch the session was good.
Girl 2. Colombian with black hair. Pretty face, medium boobs and a big ass. Great attitude and service.
Inflation has not hit Artemis, prices were the same as from my last visit in July 2021:
70 for 30 min, 20 for BBBJ and 50 for CIM.
Contemplated on going for a third session but being tired and the lineup not so enticing I decided not to. While I was paying the Colombiana two young American newbies (looked to be about 20) were asking me how everything works at Artemis and of course I helped them out. Before I take a last tour of the premises I head to toilet downstairs and catch a glimpse of a blond girl on her knees giving a BJ in the cinema (front row). I finish my business in the toilet and head to the cinema but pretend to be going to the gym. Turns out It's one of the young yanks getting a BJ from two skinny blondes! From newbie to pro, haha. As I am walking back from the gym I pass them and one of the girls smiles joyfully at me and says HELLO. My dick reacted positively and wanted to go say HELLO but my brain said no, so I went upstairs to get dressed and finally left Artemis at 02.30.
I expected a much busier ambiance given that there were no restrictions but according to the girls this was a busy night, but the rooms downstairs were always empty and there was never a queue upstairs.[/QUOTE]Inflation has hit Artemis already as it was 60 euro 30 min before your last visit LOL! Plus, they raised entrance too LOL!
Hey all,
Finally back in action and excited to step into FKK land again. Does anyone know if blonde German girl Pia is available after covid? I think she had a tattoo on her body which said Paia.
Thank You.
Looking forward to sharing many reports.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2681886]Inflation has hit Artemis already as it was 60 euro 30 min before your last visit LOL! Plus, they raised entrance too LOL![/QUOTE]That wasn't inflation, that was the pandemic hehe. I don't mind these prices as long as the quality of the girls is good, but that is not the case at the moment.
[QUOTE=DasBooty;2682319]That wasn't inflation, that was the pandemic hehe. I don't mind these prices as long as the quality of the girls is good, but that is not the case at the moment.[/QUOTE]That is my point, if Artemis were to be the most expensive FKK in Germany both for men and FKK girls, they were to have some justified reason like globe Zurich, I expect Artemis to prepare stunner level beautiful girls and also high service level without negotiation like Globe!
[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2680842]My first room was with one of my all-time favs, Avril. ... Avril's body is just as good as ever, if not better. Same goes for her service.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report! - IMHO Avril is one of the best picks in A for years. Congrats for choosing her (again)!
[QUOTE=DasBooty;2681751]Arrived 22.30 and it seems that Artemis is 0 G, you just enter the place without showing anything. You don't even have to wear a mask anymore! .[/QUOTE]I was there on April 1st as well. All the girls and staff were excited about it being the first mask-free day. They didn't check my proof of vax.
I was only there to have a session with Avril again, and then left shortly after we finished. She was in a bit of a sour mood that day, but it was still a great time in the room.
FKK Artemis, Thursday, 20:00-0:30.
I was in Artemis once in 2016. Now slight increase in prices: entry 80 euro to 90 euro, 30 min 60 euro to 70 euro. 51 girls present (info at reception).
Food is still on the same level I remember (2 main meals, very limited choice). Outside area is unfortunately closed. In the main area at the bar air is thick from smoking.
Not too many men, and not very willing to go upstairs. Every girl had to hunt actively in order to succeed. Their pre-sales talk is usually pathetic (Schatzi ficken!) Around 10 girls tried to talk me into session. During my stay I didn't found any obvious super-girl for my choice, and the one that would be constantly busy (= popular, with good service).
One black girl, Mina from Jamaica, had after long talk convinced me to choose her. She promised me a great session. I negotiated upfront one extra for free (balls licking). Her skin was very smooth, nice body.
Sex in one position, and promised massage was nothing really. In the room and afterwards, her attitude changed and was not that nice anymore. She was not interested in me as a person at all. Like a sex robot. Sex was 'okey-ish', but nothing to remember.
Other girls seemed for me either too vulgar or with no personality. Sure each one looks differently, but I had impression each one of them offers similar forgettable service. So I didn't sessioned with more girls.
I left with idea that it's better to spend my money elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Eryk9021;2683696]FKK Artemis, Thursday, 20:00-0:30.
I was in Artemis once in 2016. Now slight increase in prices: entry 80 euro to 90 euro, 30 min 60 euro to 70 euro. 51 girls present (info at reception).
Food is still on the same level I remember (2 main meals, very limited choice). Outside area is unfortunately closed. In the main area at the bar air is thick from smoking.
Not too many men, and not very willing to go upstairs. Every girl had to hunt actively in order to succeed. Their pre-sales talk is usually pathetic (Schatzi ficken!) Around 10 girls tried to talk me into session. During my stay I didn't found any obvious super-girl for my choice, and the one that would be constantly busy (= popular, with good service).
One black girl, Mina from Jamaica, had after long talk convinced me to choose her. She promised me a great session. I negotiated upfront one extra for free (balls licking). Her skin was very smooth, nice body.
Sex in one position, and promised massage was nothing really. In the room and afterwards, her attitude changed and was not that nice anymore. She was not interested in me as a person at all. Like a sex robot. Sex was 'okey-ish', but nothing to remember..[/QUOTE]So Artemis increased the price, but gives bad service and no stunner girls in line up?
If so, what is the justification for price increase? None, I presume and that is how one loses the clients!
[QUOTE=Eryk9021;2683696]FKK Artemis, Thursday, 20:00-0:30.
One black girl, Mina from Jamaica, had after long talk convinced me to choose her. She promised me a great session. I negotiated upfront one extra for free (balls licking). Her skin was very smooth, nice body.
Sex in one position, and promised massage was nothing really. In the room and afterwards, her attitude changed and was not that nice anymore. She was not interested in me as a person at all. Like a sex robot. Sex was 'okey-ish', but nothing to remember.[/QUOTE]Don't you think her ass is gorgeous?
I can strongly recommend 2 Rumanians: Alexia who is blond, fair-skinned and mature, not a stunner but gives great service, and Adina who has the biggest boobs in Artemis and also offers great service.
Hello mongers,
Has anyone tried the two Columbian girls who are walking together always? If yes please anyone write a review about them.
In a few months I get to finally leave prison for the first time in years and go to Germany for a little while. Can anyone say if Amy is still working at Artemis? Pretty, blonde, natural German girl who says she is from Stuttgart, with no tattoos or excessive piercings?
[QUOTE=Saurus;2684908]Can anyone say if Amy is still working at Artemis?[/QUOTE]Bad news. Didn't spot her for a long, long time.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2685217]Bad news. Didn't spot her for a long, long time.[/QUOTE]They come and go is the melancholy and also the beauty of FKK, isn't it? How romantic life is in FKK, we get sex and we can even feel melancholy after as we know as we fuck that she will be gone soon or later LOL! So enjoy them while it last as it has expiration date of fucking each other LOL!
Had my first visit to Artemis, and also very first visit to an FKK.
First off, wow. Look, I've mongered all over the world, so not new to that scene. But I mean woah, this is different. I warn you, this will be a romanticized report of the experience. If you're looking for the dry details (price rules etc.), many others have reported them.
Folks, the thought I had in mind was woah, this is what the world should be like. In a way, this is what every club and possibly bar should be like: women in sexy clothes, competing for man's attention (I. E. Yes, wallet), and gentlemen lounging in robes, drinking and smoking and talking politics. What a dream.
I arrived at 5 o'clock. I left at 8:30. Quality definitely picked up after 7 PM, next time I will come around then. I eventually picked a woman with very short hair, and super toned and thin body. A bit on the muscular side even. It is not normally my choice, but on the day I was in for something different. I did one hour, with a couple of extras, and it was absolutely fantastic.
Couple of criticisms of the place, if I may. I would love it more if the women were in lingeries or a sexy little dress. As it is, most women are almost fully naked. I don't like that. It leaves nothing to curiosity or imagination. Second, I would love it if the men were open to socializing a bit more. Don't get me wrong, I am here to copulate with women as much as the next guy. But where else can you socialize with a host of interesting, successful, international men than an establishment like this? Perhaps the golf course, but screw that.
So if you see me, say Hi, gentlemen. I will be the thirtyish year old looking guy, with a necklace, and probably dancing in my chair. I am in Berlin for a couple of more weeks, and you better believe it, I'll be back.
[QUOTE=DoneDeal;2686249]Had my first visit to Artemis, and also very first visit to an FKK.
First off, wow. Look, I've mongered all over the world, so not new to that scene. But I mean woah, this is different. I warn you, this will be a romanticized report of the experience. If you're looking for the dry details (price rules etc.), many others have reported them.
Folks, the thought I had in mind was woah, this is what the world should be like. In a way, this is what every club and possibly bar should be like: women in sexy clothes, competing for man's attention (I. E. Yes, wallet), and gentlemen lounging in robes, drinking and smoking and talking politics. What a dream.
I arrived at 5 o'clock. I left at 8:30. Quality definitely picked up after 7 PM, next time I will come around then. I eventually picked a woman with very short hair, and super toned and thin body. A bit on the muscular side even. It is not normally my choice, but on the day I was in for something different. I did one hour, with a couple of extras, and it was absolutely fantastic.
Couple of criticisms of the place, if I may. I would love it more if the women were in lingeries or a sexy little dress. As it is, most women are almost fully naked. I don't like that. It leaves nothing to curiosity or imagination. Second, I would love it if the men were open to socializing a bit more. Don't get me wrong, I am here to copulate with women as much as the next guy. But where else can you socialize with a host of interesting, successful, international men than an establishment like this? Perhaps the golf course, but screw that.
So if you see me, say Hi, gentlemen. I will be the thirtyish year old looking guy, with a necklace, and probably dancing in my chair. I am in Berlin for a couple of more weeks, and you better believe it, I'll be back.[/QUOTE]No need to apologize for being blown away by FKK. That is every man's reaction. Germany's gift to man. Artemis isn't even the best. Facilities are very nice but the girls a bit upsell and sharky. Nonetheless, FKK is a fundamentally awesome creation that every man should experience.
I Also recommend the Boate scene in So Paulo like Scandallo. Same girl-buffet feel to it but it's like a big nightclub of gorgeous girls (way more than any FKK) all dressed sexy for a night out. Sounds like that vibe would be more your thing. Both are great and both not to be missed!
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2686305]No need to apologize for being blown away by FKK. That is every man's reaction. Germany's gift to man. Artemis isn't even the best. Facilities are very nice but the girls a bit upsell and sharky. Nonetheless, FKK is a fundamentally awesome creation that every man should experience.
I Also recommend the Boate scene in So Paulo like Scandallo. Same girl-buffet feel to it but it's like a big nightclub of gorgeous girls (way more than any FKK) all dressed sexy for a night out. Sounds like that vibe would be more your thing. Both are great and both not to be missed![/QUOTE]So in Brazil, numbers of stunners are way more than any FKK? If so, it will make me fly over 20 hours from where I am at soon or later LOL!
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2686305]No need to apologize for being blown away by FKK. That is every man's reaction. Germany's gift to man. Artemis isn't even the best. Facilities are very nice but the girls a bit upsell and sharky. Nonetheless, FKK is a fundamentally awesome creation that every man should experience.
I Also recommend the Boate scene in So Paulo like Scandallo. Same girl-buffet feel to it but it's like a big nightclub of gorgeous girls (way more than any FKK) all dressed sexy for a night out. Sounds like that vibe would be more your thing. Both are great and both not to be missed![/QUOTE]I was searching for a better FKK club around Germany so do you recommend one worth a visit?
[QUOTE=DoneDeal;2686249]Had my first visit to Artemis, and also very first visit to an FKK.
First off, wow. Look, I've mongered all over the world, so not new to that scene. But I mean woah, this is different. I warn you, this will be a romanticized report of the experience. [/QUOTE]You've mongered all over the world and just now discovered a sex sauna? LOL Try Brazil terms or Macao spas sometime. German FKKs don't even hold a candle to those.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2686314]So in Brazil, numbers of stunners are way more than any FKK? If so, it will make me fly over 20 hours from where I am at soon or later LOL![/QUOTE]Well I want to be a bit careful here because everyone's stunner is different. I feel confident saying there are more 7+ girls at this venue than any place on the planet especially if you like Latinas. Of course even among technical Latinas there is variety. Morenas and brancas, for example. And I do like morenas and there are lots of those (u know the brown hair dark eyes tanner skin Romanians? That's a morena look.) So if you will find YOUR stunner or not I can't say. But there are tons of pretty women to choose from.
The format is like FKK in that all the girls are there to fuck. But it's not like FKK in that you wouldn't spend the whole day there. In fact it really cranks up from 11 PM till 4 in the morning. And there is no Sauna or free buffet. Easiest thing to picture is a huge nightclub with several bars, a band, and an outdoor patio and a four star restaurant. Like the nicest nightclub you have been to. However there is virtually no dancing just future sex partners milling about chating and snuggling.
I would say there were easily 150 girls there when I was there a few weeks back. Probably more because they are spread between the club and the patio and the restaurant.
Also more expensive than FKK. The drinks. The girl. And the room are all more expensive. You can expect to spend about $300-400 for an evening including 1 girl in the room (cover $50 drinks $50 girl $150 room $50) and add about $200 for another couple hours hanging out drinking and additional girl.
I suppose I should point out there are separate formats for the day. In So Paulo they are called Clnicas. Basically u get a line up where they introduce tiny one by one and u pic and go fuck. The poster who mentioned termas is talking Rio. A terma is more daytime and had the more relaxed vibe of FKK. Although I have not been to terma I dont think all would agree with his assessment. Guys who have done both would debate. That said the Boate (Scandallo being best) I would def put up against FKK any day with the caveats above that it is a DIFFERENT experience. And completely awesome. Just as FKK is.
Oh and of course there is a significant difference in the women. Boate girls are generally a lot less pro than FKK girls. They might see 1-3 guys a night if they are doing well and often have real jobs. Two Boate girls I saw got engaged a month afterwards! Also there isnt the upsell transactional culture and Brasileiras love to kiss. Ive never discussed kissing and its always great DFK. Same mostly for BJ. Ive only had one girl insist covered BJ and that surprised me. Its always BBBJ without discussion. Finally u can also take them out and make side arrangements. Pretty much any girl will go overnight with u for $300. And may even wanna hang out and have lunch or dinner if u like the GF experience. My very first Scandallo girl wanted me to go to the beach with her and her friend the next day (but alas I had hotties to fuck!)
[QUOTE=Nono321;2686329]I was searching for a better FKK club around Germany so do you recommend one worth a visit?[/QUOTE]General wisdom is that Sharks and Oase are towards the top. Both in Frankfurt. In my personal experience, I would agree. Sharks is my favorite due to its scale. Artemis would be more awesome if it was less upsell and sharky. But it's a monopoly in Berlin so that's what you get.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2686457]The (Scandallo) format is like FKK in that all the girls are there to fuck. But it's not like FKK in that you wouldn't spend the whole day there. In fact it really cranks up from 11 till 4 in the morning. The poster who mentioned termas is talking Rio. A terma is more daytime and had the more relaxed vibe of FKK.[/QUOTE]I would just note a couple of things. Although the heaviest action at Scandallo might get going later, and that I agree you wouldn't necessarily want to spend all day there, I like to show up between 7 pm and 8 pm for a couple of reasons. One is that I like to have dinner there. They have a decent restaurant with decent food, so that's where I have dinner when I have Scandallo on the schedule for the night. Have a meal. Have a drink or two. Start to cut into that admission price consumo fee. And second, in normal times, I found that even by early evening there were some hotties milling and wandering around, making it easy to get an early lay in before later on in the night when it gets more crowded and noisy (I usually fuck at least twice in a night at Scandallo). And regarding a Brazilian termas, I need to correct by saying that they absolutely are not primarily daytime establishments. They are good both in the day and at night, with the best action normally being in the evening. And whether or not the "vibe" is more relaxed or not depends on the particular character of the termas in question. Some can be low-key. But some can be crowded with loud music. So that depends, just like with FKKs. The one thing that is not debatable between the Brazilian termas versus the German FKKs is that the former are much smaller than an FKK club, and tend to lack the same quality of facilities, amenities, etc. But, for me Brazil is still the clear winner overall because Brazilian women are so diverse in their looks and fuck the best. Hands-down! And if you enjoy anal, no place in the world is better than Brazil for that. None! I always say the best set up would be the beach of Thailand lined up and down with FKK clubs filled to the brim with Brazilian women. Well, with a few other nationalities thrown in too! Ha!
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2686463]General wisdom is that Sharks and Oase are towards the top. Both in Frankfurt. In my personal experience, I would agree. Sharks is my favorite due to its scale. Artemis would be more awesome if it was less upsell and sharky. But it's a monopoly in Berlin so that's what you get.[/QUOTE]Hoping to try Mainhatten (Frankfurt) soon. Lot of reports that post Covid it's come back well. But will report on Artemis "soon". Wish us old mongers luck!
[QUOTE=DoneDeal;2686249]Had my first visit to Artemis, and also very first visit to an FKK.
I arrived at 5 o'clock. I left at 8:30. Quality definitely picked up after 7 PM, next time I will come around then.
So if you see me, say Hi, gentlemen. I will be the thirtyish year old looking guy, with a necklace, and probably dancing in my chair. I am in Berlin for a couple of more weeks, and you better believe it, I'll be back.[/QUOTE]Curious what night. Always helpful to know the night. And if you remember. Ratio of ladies to men. Or as they sometimes say in the German boards. 2 leggers to 3 leggers!
And by the way, I was in one clubs somewhere in the world and once commented how few men were in the club. And the girl said: Did you come here for the men or the ladies.
Mr. DoneDeal: thanks for your report!
[QUOTE=DoneDeal;2686249]I would love it more if the women were in lingeries or a sexy little dress.[/QUOTE]Just try Wednesday, it's lingerie day.
[QUOTE=DoneDeal;2686249]I eventually picked a woman with very short hair, and super toned and thin body. A bit on the muscular side even. It is not normally my choice, but on the day I was in for something different. I did one hour, with a couple of extras, and it was absolutely fantastic.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you picked up Penelope, but I'm not sure. Usually she starts not before 6 pm.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2686632]Mr. DoneDeal: thanks for your report!
Just try Wednesday, it's lingerie day.
Sounds like you picked up Penelope, but I'm not sure. Usually she starts not before 6 pm.[/QUOTE]Woah, nicely done. It was indeed Penelope. Was selfishly guarding the name but got to give credit where it's due. What you think of her?
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2686540]Curious what night. Always helpful to know the night. And if you remember. Ratio of ladies to men. Or as they sometimes say in the German boards. 2 leggers to 3 leggers!
And by the way, I was in one clubs somewhere in the world and once commented how few men were in the club. And the girl said: Did you come here for the men or the ladies.[/QUOTE]Friday evening, 5 pm to 8:20 pm. Ratio is 2:3. That is, two leggers to three leggers (love the expression). That is, about 15 women to like 23 men at that time.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2686457]Well I want to be a bit careful here because everyone's stunner is different. I feel confident saying there are more 7+ girls at this venue than any place on the planet especially if you like Latinas. Of course even among technical Latinas there is variety. Morenas and brancas, for example. And I do like morenas and there are lots of those (u know the brown hair dark eyes tanner skin Romanians? That's a morena look.) So if you will find YOUR stunner or not I can't say. But there are tons of pretty women to choose from.
The format is like FKK in that all the girls are there to fuck. But it's not like FKK in that you wouldn't spend the whole day there. In fact it really cranks up from 11 PM till 4 in the morning. And there is no Sauna or free buffet. Easiest thing to picture is a huge nightclub with several bars, a band, and an outdoor patio and a four star restaurant. Like the nicest nightclub you have been to. However there is virtually no dancing just future sex partners milling about chating and snuggling.
I would say there were easily 150 girls there when I was there a few weeks back. Probably more because they are spread between the club and the patio and the restaurant.[/QUOTE]Sound like the set up is bit similar to Spanish brothel like disco? Set up, you know like in Madrid and are the any in Barcelona? Etc and also similar to KTV in minila, this I went to before for Eurasians!
I will take a shot at Brazil, but since it is over 20 hours flight, it has to be done and planned well before LOL!
As far as it sound, for me FKK is good enough for me both in Germany and Switzerland and I am going to put in some high end escort in Europe soon as well to see how that one works out! Since some of the stunners I went to with worked in high end escort in Germany, line up at escort in Germany seems promising!
Boate in Brazil interest me since they are more close to normal girls, if there are stunner level young beauties in boate, I may also take a hit, but not this year, I hit globe Zurich once again and I may stretch to good old palace, I will see LOL! But FKK is back after pandemic it seems and isn't it amazing? LOL!
[QUOTE=DoneDeal;2686654]It was indeed Penelope. ... What you think of her?[/QUOTE]I'd call her an exciting MILF, giving great service in the room. Recommended.
Hello guys,
Does anyone know the name of the tall blondie girl with natural boobs and enhanced lips? I am trying to remember her name but I can't.
Is it worth going to Berlin just for Artemis at the moment? Is the outside area open now with the swimming pool and the jacuzzi (being outside on a balmy night at Artemis was amazing).
[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2688993]Is it worth going to Berlin just for Artemis at the moment? Is the outside area open now with the swimming pool and the jacuzzi (being outside on a balmy night at Artemis was amazing).[/QUOTE]No. Nothing near normal yet - maybe June. Maybe.
Impression now from Pharisaer maybe 50% normal. Quality is another thing. Many girls running risk (see below) need money badly. Ninja note and admit he has not been in very long time - poor ventilation in crowded, smoke filled room, no idea of other's Covid status, masks ha ha, all big negatives.
But read locals reports on other local german fora - same. Can play Russian roulette at home for free vs. 90 Euro entrance.
Using interweb, senior member can check Berlin weather (afternoon and evening temperatures) [URL]https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/week/berlin_germany_2950159[/URL].
And daily new Covid cases (e.g. yesterday 2800 new), age distribution (note under 40 yr olds), and hospitalisation rates [URL]https://data.lageso.de/lageso/corona/corona.html[/URL]#start (use translator). Coming down very slowly.
And make (obvious) conclusion. Berlin has many independents where quality good and risks much lower.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2689097]But read locals reports on other local german fora - same.[/QUOTE]Which forums?
Nooky, what did you mean by risks, COVID? I am considering going to Artemis in the upcoming week. Therefore, I am really interested to know what the situation and the line up are like. Should I go there, I would of course happily give a report.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2689097]No. Nothing near normal yet - maybe June. Maybe.
Impression now from Pharisaer maybe 50% normal. Quality is another thing. Many girls running risk (see below) need money badly. Ninja note and admit he has not been in very long time - poor ventilation in crowded, smoke filled room, no idea of other's Covid status, masks ha ha, all big negatives.
But read locals reports on other local german fora - same. Can play Russian roulette at home for free vs. 90 Euro entrance.
Using interweb, senior member can check Berlin weather (afternoon and evening temperatures) [URL]https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/week/berlin_germany_2950159[/URL].
And daily new Covid cases (e.g. yesterday 2800 new), age distribution (note under 40 yr olds), and hospitalisation rates [URL]https://data.lageso.de/lageso/corona/corona.html[/URL]#start (use translator). Coming down very slowly.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2689097]No. Nothing near normal yet - maybe June. Maybe.
Impression now from Pharisaer maybe 50% normal. Quality is another thing. Many girls running risk (see below) need money badly. Ninja note and admit he has not been in very long time - poor ventilation in crowded, smoke filled room, no idea of other's Covid status, masks ha ha, all big negatives.
But read locals reports on other local german fora - same. Can play Russian roulette at home for free vs. 90 Euro entrance.
Using interweb, senior member can check Berlin weather (afternoon and evening temperatures) [URL]https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/week/berlin_germany_2950159[/URL].
And daily new Covid cases (e.g. yesterday 2800 new), age distribution (note under 40 yr olds), and hospitalisation rates [URL]https://data.lageso.de/lageso/corona/corona.html[/URL]#start (use translator). Coming down very slowly.
And make (obvious) conclusion. Berlin has many independents where quality good and risks much lower.[/QUOTE]I am looking to go to Artemis too in the next 2 weeks. Very interested in the lineup. Is it not good due to Covid these days? My favorite type are German blondes which I found the best in Artemis among Sharks, Oase, Palace and Globe ZH. I will also post a report after going
[QUOTE=FrankSta;2689417]Nooky, what did you mean by risks, COVID? I am considering going to Artemis in the upcoming week. Therefore, I am really interested to know what the situation and the line up are like. [/QUOTE]Yes. Obviously. Ninja post official Berlin Covid tracking sites below. Just read numbers: 2-3000+ new cases per day and still high hospitalisation rates. Remember also 1. These numbers undercount as testing more haphazard. 2. There will likely be bump up in next 2 weeks, as has happened past 2 years after Easter holidays. 3. Probably some girls away as E Orthodox Easter also late this year, so line up not likely to be at full strength for a while. 4. There is general fatigue dealing with Covid so mask restrictions now greatly relaxed. Will take some weeks to see effects, but UK experience says this will like cause rates to increase for a while. Then 5. You are sitting for hours in poorly ventilated, smokey room with people who obviously like to take risks, and girls breathing closely with 10-15 of these men per day. And girls, working in this stressed situation obviously under pressures. Said most of this in last post; saying again.
Then there is quality / price issue. A entrance 90 Eur, lots of sharky behaviour ( see German fora like Lusthaus or Verkehrsbericht) means single 1 hour session easily 90+140=230 (assume no extras). Much better local girls in apartments where 1 HR is 130-150, with much less risk and none of sharky upselling. See Berlin ISG thread.
In pre-Covid prime, Artemis was great. That was then; this is now. Easily 10 of the all time best girls there are long gone. Even most of fun, interesting guys have stopped going and this was part of charm-Ninja could always find characters to hang with and made many friends. You can ask girls and they will also say atmosphere very different now. Maybe after a few months with much warmer weather so you can stay outside most of time, it could be option, if you have never been. Artemis much better club when you can hang out in sun all day, swim, take jacuzzi but it is too early and cold now. Of course you can be lucky. But cost and risk now says nein Danke. People being exhausted and fed up with dealing with Corona simply does not make virus go away. Just think with big brain, not dick brain.
Pharisaer knows current situation and line up best - he can offer thoughts.
Good point Ninja, the 90 entry fee is silly in times when the chances are big you won't find anyone you want to go to room with. Artemis used to show lineup on their website, but now that is gone too. Probably due to the rules of 2017. But that at least gave guys some sort of comfort that they would find someone. Now unless you are a local visiting every week, it gets a lot risker.
230-250 e are at the price point where you can find the top lookers at the eurogirlsescort website. So it is hard competition too. And without the chance to advertise. Although I do wonder if there is some redbook website where the girls mark which FKK they will be working at. Like there was in Hessen or NRW a few years back. Though that really was half assed and not very updated.
For 250 e I could meet up with someone like these girls:
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/valeria/408052/?list=fxfr6[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/kristina/411478/?list=7uc4a3[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/linda-garcia/352067/?list=p683pd[/URL]
Or almost this now well known pornstar here from Brazil:
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/kelly-oliveira/359543/?list=sadzo[/URL]
While this girl is even much cheaper (at least looks hot from behind).
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/mell/409188/?list=k98aa[/URL]
And that is just from the first page of results. Out of 7. Damn if all these girls would have worked from the same club instead of apartments! Artemis would be rocking! But something is clearly not working right at the moment.
So indeed, the FKK model is losing out right now in competition with apartment girls.
1. Entry has gone too high.
2. Lack of marketing.
[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2689607]I am looking to go to Artemis too in the next 2 weeks. Very interested in the lineup. Is it not good due to Covid these days? My favorite type are German blondes which I found the best in Artemis among Sharks, Oase, Palace and Globe ZH. I will also post a report after going[/QUOTE]Ok. Will post a report in a bit. Just back from Artemis (and a couple others) last week. First as everyone had pointed out Easter and Easter Orthodox weeks are tough. Some girls away. Others told me they could not afford to travel after such a long time without work. I did not see any German girls. Prices were indeed up. Talking with the girls at the club and asking about some of my old favorites the standard reply you get is 'they took a private space in town'.
Not that anyone goes to Artemis for the food but that too was not as good as the old days. Still if you have last minute schedule and want to try the club I found success, happiness, and very nice endings!
Got to Artemis about 8:15- ish. They offered a price for evening and a reduced price for staying 30 minutes.
I'd say at most there were 15 guys spread out over the building. 12 girls. Given the coming and going of the ladies there may have been as many as 18-20 ladies in the building but many fewer at any time in the bar area.
I did a couple rounds through the building and came across a couple of cuties who kept trying to get me to take them both. Kataleya and Elmy I said I'd circle back. At the bar sat an Italian girl with too much make up. Mid late 30's. Dark hair. Fish nets. Another very tall super skinny blond with crotch-less body suit found a guy to take her up in under 30 seconds of chit-chat. Couldn't decide if she looked too skanky or just the right amount of skanky. Tiny A buds. There were 3-4 really heavy girls who looked like 20-49 pounds overweight.
Sat down and found a local German to chat with. He was really disappointed with the selection. After talking for a while and staring at naked breasts and butts I gave in to a Kataleya. 140 an hour. + 20 for uncovered BJ and 50 for CIM or +100 for anal (didn't go there). The oral I'd give an A+, Constant eye contact. Great technique and sex was a solid A. Had some running commentary on the positions! Didn't make any silly pretend sex noises!
Sex in every position. Light kissing. Finished in her mouth and she congratulated me on the amount of cum Seriously. She gave me a long talk on how many guys barely wet her tongue I've never been congratulated for that before. She did work hard to finish me off. Let me play with her pussy. Without good kissing I probably wouldn't repeat even though overall I enjoyed myself.
She said she'd been there under a year. She confirmed many people mistake her for Latina. Her face had a South American look. She didn't try to push me out after we had sex. In fact I was the one who got up as I was afraid I might fall asleep on the bed. hopefully I have her name correct!
Would have gone with Elmy for a second but took a sauna, and another drink then jet lag really hit!
So yes pricy for one girl but look you get off the plane. Taxi over. Have a drink 'find a girl, eat some food' or 'find some food eat a girl' and get back to the hotel happy. I mean easier than ordering a girl to my room!
Mr. Tintin1 - thanks for your report! You remember the name quite correct: Cataleya. Spelling varies. Some good reports now. Maybe I have to try her too.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2689948]Got to Artemis about 8:15- ish. They offered a price for evening and a reduced price for staying 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]Reduced entrance fee? Surprise, surprise. Maybe you mix something up?
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2690018]Mr. Tintin1 - thanks for your report! You remember the name quite correct: Cataleya. Spelling varies. Some good reports now. Maybe I have to try her too.
Reduced entrance fee? Surprise, surprise. Maybe you mix something up?[/QUOTE]1. 90 for all night, 60 or 70 if you only stay for 30 minutes "for one room visit". Hardly worth it but I doubt they come in and drag you out of the room. More likely it's 30 minutes walking around UNTIL you go into a room! But for 20 or 30 Euros, I might as well stay, eat, drink and sauna.
Yes, Cataleya or Kataleya. I just say CUTE.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2690026]1. 90 for all night, 60 or 70 if you only stay for 30 minutes "for one room visit".[/QUOTE]In Artemis, really? Wow, that's an interesting news. Have to check it.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2689948]Got to Artemis about 8:15- ish. They offered a price for evening and a reduced price for staying 30 minutes.
I'd say at most there were 15 guys spread out over the building. 12 girls. Given the coming and going of the ladies there may have been as many as 18-20 ladies in the building but many fewer at any time in the bar area.
I did a couple rounds through the building and came across a couple of cuties who kept trying to get me to take them both. Kataleya and Elmy I said I'd circle back. At the bar sat an Italian girl with too much make up. Mid late 30's. Dark hair. Fish nets. Another very tall super skinny blond with crotch-less body suit found a guy to take her up in under 30 seconds of chit-chat. Couldn't decide if she looked too skanky or just the right amount of skanky. Tiny A buds. There were 3-4 really heavy girls who looked like 20-49 pounds overweight.
Sat down and found a local German to chat with. He was really disappointed with the selection. After talking for a while and staring at naked breasts and butts I gave in to a Kataleya. 140 an hour. + 20 for uncovered BJ and 50 for CIM or +100 for anal (didn't go there). The oral I'd give an A+, Constant eye contact. Great technique and sex was a solid A. Had some running commentary on the positions! Didn't make any silly pretend sex noises!
Sex in every position. Light kissing. Finished in her mouth and she congratulated me on the amount of cum Seriously. She gave me a long talk on how many guys barely wet her tongue I've never been congratulated for that before. She did work hard to finish me off. Let me play with her pussy. Without good kissing I probably wouldn't repeat even though overall I enjoyed myself.
She said she'd been there under a year. She confirmed many people mistake her for Latina. Her face had a South American look. She didn't try to push me out after we had sex. In fact I was the one who got up as I was afraid I might fall asleep on the bed. hopefully I have her name correct!
Would have gone with Elmy for a second but took a sauna, and another drink then jet lag really hit!
So yes pricy for one girl but look you get off the plane. Taxi over. Have a drink 'find a girl, eat some food' or 'find some food eat a girl' and get back to the hotel happy. I mean easier than ordering a girl to my room![/QUOTE]Great report Tintin, thank you. Such great reviews are hard to come by. I wish Artemis comes back to old levels with the lineup soon. I guess I will stick to Globe and Frankfurt till that time.
Thank you everyone for the helpful replies! I am planning on Artemis to actually limit risks, COVID I do not really consider a risk for myself. I think of Artemis as a safe place in terms of getting, cheated, robbed or beaten up. That makes me hesitant to go to private apartments. I would consider getting an escort into the hotel room. But since I am traveling with colleagues, I cannot pick up a girl in the lobby and what I read from forums it's hard to get them send up to your room in modern hotels.
I have been to Artemis several years ago, well before COVID. Back then I really liked the line up. Many girls with a "porno lock" which is exactly what I am looking for. So my take on it is, that Artemis looks to me like a very safe location, the place is suited to spend there some time, the line up might really be a problem from what you people say, especially since I will be there on a weekday.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2690046]In Artemis, really? Wow, that's an interesting news. Have to check it.[/QUOTE]If this is true (how can it be enforced really-different color bracelets being constantly watched, threat of extra charge on exit? It means entrance + 70 minimum for 30 min session = at least EUR 130-140. Many many girls in private bordellos or indie flats offer this [i]for 1 hour[/i]. So double the time, better quality, less risk. A makes even less sense. All the local scene covered in Berlin thread and Bobo's per bordello threads.
Yesterday, 5000+ new Covid cases in Berlin, hospitalisation index up, all concentrated with under 40 years old. Post Easter holiday bump starting. It will come down slowly but only after a few weeks.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2690046]In Artemis, really? Wow, that's an interesting news. Have to check it.[/QUOTE]You know in the old days we used to end a lot of comments with "YMMV". Your mileage may vary. In this case. Who knows. Is this official policy. Is this for the slow nights. Or holiday weeks- when they look at the punter and think I'd rather not lose this guy so maybe 20€ will make a difference. To me saving so little is hardly worth it. So maybe the point is to make you just say. OK I'll pay the full tariff. If it was 50€ cover I could see showing up to see a favorite for a quickly if you could be sure she was free.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2690338]You know in the old days we used to end a lot of comments with "YMMV". Your mileage may vary. In this case. Who knows. Is this official policy. Is this for the slow nights. Or holiday weeks- when they look at the punter and think I'd rather not lose this guy so maybe 20 will make a difference. To me saving so little is hardly worth it. So maybe the point is to make you just say. OK I'll pay the full tariff. If it was 50 cover I could see showing up to see a favorite for a quickly if you could be sure she was free.[/QUOTE]Yeah, YMMV. I remember. But (sorry don't want to harm you) it sounds silly. See Ninjas post below, quite good points. I'll check it & report back.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2690387]Yeah, YMMV. I remember. But (sorry don't want to harm you) it sounds silly. See Ninjas post below, quite good points. I'll check it & report back.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree with his logic. I did not say I used the short term, just that it was offered to me. (How they know, How they track you etc, don't care). I think the 3 of us agree we wouldn't'; t use this option. I merely was stating what happened when I arrived at the front desk. In Palace in Frankfurt I arrived at 4:55 and they gave me the before 5 discount. 25 euros for the entire night. If there hadn't been two of us, I would probably have arrived at 7 which is my usual time, but for 50 Euros, we had a couple drinks, and chatted watching the girls. It was better than the hotel lobby and ultimately the discount covered our drinks.
Again, you all speak logically. But when I'm in a room of 2 dozen naked women, logic for me is useless. I know what I SHOULD DO, but somehow my dick often controls my brain and my wallet.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2689948]At the bar sat an Italian girl with too much make up. Mid late 30's. Dark hair. Fish nets.[/QUOTE]I've had her, you dodged a bullet. I like the older dirty working girl look and she looked early 40's to me. 70 is the base, and then 25 for BBBJ and kissing. Nothing all that special and you're better off with a better looking woman.
She hustled me in a strange way, but its part of the game, so I just let it go. I popped and she upsold 20 for another pop, she was the last stop of the night so I figured whatever. She got into 69 position but standing with my head between her feet and squatting up and down so I could see her pussy while she jerked me off to get me hard for the last pop. I saw a look of judgment on her face as well when I started licking her ass but she let me keep going.
When I was ready and hard again, I pushed her slightly off but she kept jerking and pressed behind my balls against my prostate to make me pop and then wanted another 20 for another pop. That was a shady pro hooker trick, but she earned it. Lesson learned.
I don't know if anyone else has licked a 40 year old prostitute's asshole and got scammed by her at the same time, but I'll admit to it. It was memorable, although a bit humiliating.
Hello everyone,
I am a Indian male (35 y) currently in Poland, where I have been hobbying for the last 4 months, averaging around 2 SWs per month. Been using [URL]eurogirlsescort.com[/URL] for incall only, I find now that the picking are pretty slim if you want to go to a verified provider, and even then your experience might not be too the mark and even a bit too costly at times, and even some of the verified have faces hidden in the ads or barely speak English at all (more common with providers from outside Poland, all polish providers I've met speak impeccable English). So then recently I read about FKK clubs and I am truly intrigued, there is something about ordering from what's displayed at the counter in a restaurant, than just ordering from a menu. As you can already see if the food looks to your liking or not. The taste is another thing but already the looks satisfy kind of a thing. So I am just looking for a bit of guidance from my more experienced fellow hobbyists.
I am planning on visiting the club around 10 pm and staying till I can. Or should I go earlier? If I find a good lineup (will I in May?) I would like to smoke already 4 of them, or may be even try threesome. What do you guys suggest I should look forward to spending? I really like BBBJs so that will be a must. But I really don't know if I, being a dark skinned Asian, will even be entertained or not. Really looking for some pointers from ye experienced ones.
Thinking of going to Artemis this weekend. How many girls are there on average at the peak? Is it worth it? Thanks!
[QUOTE=Hktj26;2691105]Thinking of going to Artemis this weekend. How many girls are there on average at the peak? Is it worth it? Thanks![/QUOTE]Expect roundabout 60 girls at peak between 6 pm and 10 pm.
Hello guys,
Any idea about the price for cumming twice per 30 minutes?
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2691155]Expect roundabout 60 girls at peak between 6 pm and 10 pm.[/QUOTE]Thank you, and what are the prices currently? 70 base? How much extra BBBJ? How much extra CIM?
The entrance fee is 80 Euros (40 for taxi drivers and pensioners on Sundays and Mondays); half an hour sex costs 60 Euros.
[QUOTE=Hktj26;2691375]Thank you, and what are the prices currently? 70 base? How much extra BBBJ? How much extra CIM?[/QUOTE]Entrance 90 E. Girls 70 E per 30 minutes. Upsell BBBJ 20 E, CIM 50 E.
[QUOTE=Nono321;2691258]Any idea about the price for cumming twice per 30 minutes?[/QUOTE]IMHO there's no fixed rule. In a 30 minute session you're usually allowed to cum once. You will pay for 30 minutes afterwards, so you don't have to leave after cumming, but no second cumshot allowed. Maybe it's a good idea to ask the girl in advance.
Amira (Romanian, blonde, fake tits): horrendous experience, waste of money, probably the worst service I've had in years. Avoid at all costs.
Club was packed with a ratio of maybe 5:1 guys to girls, tons of Italian and British tourists. Lineup was horrible, hardly anything good to choose from, and very few girls to begin with.
Overall disappointing experience. Sharks is much better at this point, will not be back at Artemis anytime soon. During the height of the pandemic it was much better.
[QUOTE=Hktj26;2691590]Amira (Romanian, blonde, fake tits): horrendous experience, waste of money, probably the worst service I've had in years. Avoid at all costs.
Club was packed with a ratio of maybe 5:1 guys to girls, tons of Italian and British tourists. Lineup was horrible, hardly anything good to choose from, and very few girls to begin with.
Overall disappointing experience. Sharks is much better at this point, will not be back at Artemis anytime soon. During the height of the pandemic it was much better.[/QUOTE]On which day you gave it a visit please?
[QUOTE=Hktj26;2691590]Amira (Romanian, blonde, fake tits): horrendous experience, waste of money, probably the worst service I've had in years. Avoid at all costs.
Club was packed with a ratio of maybe 5:1 guys to girls, tons of Italian and British tourists. Lineup was horrible, hardly anything good to choose from, and very few girls to begin with.
Overall disappointing experience. Sharks is much better at this point, will not be back at Artemis anytime soon. During the height of the pandemic it was much better.[/QUOTE]I can second this. Went there yesterday on Friday and stayed from 3 to 8 pm. Went home unfucked.
I had hoped for Katharina from Bulgaria but she was not there.
Maybe some girls are on extended orthodox Easter holiday.
[QUOTE=Hktj26;2691590]Club was packed with a ratio of maybe 5:1 guys to girls, tons of Italian and British tourists.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report. Artemis' made for tourists, that's nothing new. A ratio of 5:1 sounds really bad.
[QUOTE=Toto001;2691686]I had hoped for Katharina from Bulgaria but she was not there.[/QUOTE]She will return soon. Maybe you should give yourself another chance to catch her.
[QUOTE=FrankSta;2690169]I am planning on Artemis to actually limit risks, COVID I do not really consider a risk for myself. I think of Artemis as a safe place in terms of getting, cheated, robbed or beaten up. That makes me hesitant to go to private apartments. [/QUOTE]Nothing in life is 100% safe-crossing the street etc. But private apartments and apartment bordellos are completely safe here. Not NYC, London, Paris, Moscow. Plus over years, Artemis has had its own share of bizarre events as any local can confirm. Rare shootings in parking lot; some brawls in changing room; the surprise, unnecessary 2016 police raid where everyone's ID checked. On Covid side, Berlin case & hospital data clearly confirm under 40 yr olds dominate now, with still 2-3000 new cases per day (and these understate actual due to reporting issues).
Spending many hours in smokey, poor ventilated room, girls with 10+ guys per day in very close proximity with unknown testing and case history, and both girls and guests are above average risk takers, etc. It is sad but Artemis very different now from its glory days 2008-2016. Berlin apartments have more German local girls, more local guys both with more chance of being fully vaccinated, not pressure to have sex 10-15 times per day, less chance of bringing disease by mixing with people from all over world, etc. Risk profile is very different. Of course apartments have different vibe, no lounging for hours, no sports studio, no food. But 5-10 good choices, easy to find one. More erotic, less sex factory feel. Girls for sure more relaxed.
Given all this, given prices, quality issues reported here almost daily, if you want P4S in Berlin now, apartments have big safety and price / quality advantages. IMHO too soon to visit Artemis. Weather needs to be much warmer to drive Covid risks down, and allow mostly staying outside in open air. Maybe June. But this will not change price & quality issues. Compare choices with e. G. Berlinintim site and others, all discussed on ISG Berlin thread and Bobo's pulling together apartment bordello reviews.
[QUOTE=Toto001;2691686]I can second this. Went there yesterday on Friday and stayed from 3 to 8 pm. Went home unfucked.
I had hoped for Katharina from Bulgaria but she was not there.
Maybe some girls are on extended orthodox Easter holiday.[/QUOTE]8 PM is when the night shift picks up at artemis and it is more night shift club though, but artemis also has the side of being the only museum in the world for plastic monsters LOL! But between those plastic monsters, one might be lucky to find one or two stunners LOL! There used to be three to five stunners back in early 2010's, but lately the collection at plastic monster museum stick to its name LOL!
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2691850]Thanks for your report. Artemis' made for tourists, that's nothing new. A ratio of 5:1 sounds really bad. [/QUOTE]
Maybe I was really lucky to go during one of the Easter weeks. Tourism down. Business by locals slow. While not a huge amount of girls I did get GOOD service and almost no upsell. You have to balance the rewards / risks. More girls on weekends & more guys. Many tourists as you say! Which means better ability to ask for more money and find a sucker to pay! There's a good report on 3 Bordellos feom a few weeks back in the Berlin forum (I'm pretty sure Berlin not here). If you find a girl there the negotiations are at a minimum and no cover. Right.
Hello group,
I am an idiot and I did not listen. I went last week to Artemis, spend 90 Euro for finding out that it was basically empty. I guess around 15 women and 30 men, maybe less. None of the women were fitting my taste so I went after 20 min again. Never again, until maybe good reports come.
[QUOTE=FrankSta;2694251]Hello group,
I am an idiot and I did not listen. I went last week to Artemis, spend 90 Euro for finding out that it was basically empty. I guess around 15 women and 30 men, maybe less. None of the women were fitting my taste so I went after 20 min again. Never again, until maybe good reports come.[/QUOTE]Go after 8 pm, you went in the morning?
Third time at Artemis. Got there 11:30 pm last night, Saturday night.
Scene? Waaay too packed for my taste. And a ton of dudes. Not a ton of women, actually. Maybe 10-15 women, but the dudes were like 60+. It felt like a nightclub, but in the negative sense. You know when you go to the nightclub, and there's a bunch of guys just standing around eying up the handful of women on the dance floor? That's what it felt like.
I sat at the bar for an hour, downed four Jack Daniel's, smoked a couple of short stogies, and left. Didn't session with anyone, and wasn't tempted to. Also, they played too much Romanian music for my taste. Good music but I mean, common guys.
Anyways, I'm pro-Artemis overall (let's keep things in perspective), but not a great scene on a Saturday night.
[QUOTE=DoneDeal;2694641]Third time at Artemis. Got there 11:30 pm last night, Saturday night.
Anyways, I'm pro-Artemis overall (let's keep things in perspective), but not a great scene on a Saturday night.[/QUOTE]There's a great post in the Berlin thread about 3 clubs a guy visited prior to ending up at Artemis. Two are actually near Artemis. Basic Bordellos, but he found the girls optically nice. Maybe from the last month.
Hung back till 20:00 (Monday) before going in. €90 on the door. Not a great deal of choice. Line up was avg and took a while to decide. Bulgarian Gabriella. Looked to be one of the decent looking ones (subjective). Promised but did not really deliver. DFK turned out to be VLfk. Wouldn't let me fuck her face, albeit gently, at the end, and had to lay back whilst she tried to give a BJ to complete with her head shielding the view. Yeah right. Having none of that so spun her around and made sure she kept her chops on it. In view. Dark long hair and tight bod did it for me, but wouldn't revisit. Distinct lack of blondes which was my pref.
About 10:30 the girls stared to get outnumbered. Only had the 1 session.
Food was good, facilities spotless, outside open.
In Berlin on business and, although Artemis is not my favourite club due to its awkward layout, yesterday I decided to go and visit. I went against the suggestion of Nooky Ninja and others, but my little friend wanted some FKK fun and I was ready to take the risk of having a disappointing mongering day!
The weather was very sunny and warm and as I entered the club at around 5 pm, the girl / men ratio was close to 1:1. In the evening there were slightly more girls, but I couldn't find anyone that I really had to have. The hottest girl in the club was actually the black-haired bar girl! Around half of the girls were totally unfuckable, so I wouldn't have gone with them, even for free. At that point I took the rare decision to lower my standards for the night as it was approaching the 4th hour in the club without any session. I then picked the blonde Lina. De from Hamburg, GND look with natural boobs and a robust physique. Great 30 min session with BBBJ, no kissing. But I didn't care for that and it was probably extra. And finish in mish (90 E). Second was the very tall Anka. Ro, lovely girl although not very smiley. She has very nice sillies, which feel rather real and a mile-long legs. 30 min session again (70 E).
Artemis is a club for tourists. So, do not expect the closeness you get from girls in other clubs. 30 min session is always around 12-15 min effective and all the girls have the 'assembly line' attitude of churning as many men as possible.
Food was very bland, although not actually bad. I think they have renovated some wellness facilities and they have unlimited towels to use.
Taxi tip: do not pick the taxis waiting outside the club entrance as they apply double charges than normal. I would walk over the train station and call a Uber or a Freenow, which work perfectly in Berlin.
No vaccine passport to show at the entrance and no mask wearing inside, in case someone is wondering!
Conclusions: LU was disappointing and the club entrance rate is way too high for what it offers.
At RockyV: Thanks for your great report!
[QUOTE=RockyV;2695296]Second was the very tall Anka. Ro, lovely girl although not very smiley. She has very nice sillies, which feel rather real and a mile-long legs. 30 min session again (70 E).[/QUOTE]Everytime I see her, I've got the feeling to grab her. But unfortunately she doesn't give BBBJ. Anybody's got other experiences?
[QUOTE=RockyV;2695296]Taxi tip: do not pick the taxis waiting outside the club entrance as they apply double charges than normal. I would walk over the train station and call a Uber or a Freenow, which work perfectly in Berlin.[/QUOTE]Insist the driver to turn the meter on. - If you don't like to pick a cab in front of the house, walk to Westkreuz station (no guarantee to pick one!) or stop one on Ku'damm. Usually the cabs cruise up and down Ku'damm and they'll make a uturn at Halensee station.
[QUOTE=Toto001;2691686]I had hoped for Katharina from Bulgaria but she was not there.[/QUOTE]As forecasted: she's back.
The more I read the report, the more I reschedule my visit.
It seems there are more East European women than German women.
I'm still wait for your signal for better LU.
To those who have recently been to Artemis is the outdoor area open with the swimming pool and the jacuzzi?
[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2695769]To those who have recently been to Artemis is the outdoor area open with the swimming pool and the jacuzzi?[/QUOTE]Yes. The heated outside pool, the jacuzzi, the big panorama sauna outside and steam bath were opened on May 1st. Probably May 26th the barbeque season will start (Wednesday and Sunday if the weather is nice).
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2695709]At RockyV: Thanks for your great report!
Everytime I see her, I've got the feeling to grab her. But unfortunately she doesn't give BBBJ. Anybody's got other experiences? [/QUOTE]Yes, Anka does give BBBJ, with the usual surcharge, but I decided not to take the option.
[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2695769]To those who have recently been to Artemis is the outdoor area open with the swimming pool and the jacuzzi?[/QUOTE]Yes, the outdoor area and the heated jacuzzi outside is also open.
[QUOTE=HDN2015;2695758]The more I read the report, the more I reschedule my visit.
It seems there are more East European women than German women.
I'm still wait for your signal for better LU.[/QUOTE]Already before covid, more Romanians than Germans and prettier Romanians than Germans almost everywhere, even in Bruggen.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2695709]At RockyV: Thanks for your great report!
Everytime I see her, I've got the feeling to grab her. But unfortunately she doesn't give BBBJ. Anybody's got other experiences?
Insist the driver to turn the meter on. - If you don't like to pick a cab in front of the house, walk to Westkreuz station (no guarantee to pick one!) or stop one on Ku'damm. Usually the cabs cruise up and down Ku'damm and they'll make a uturn at Halensee station.
As forecasted: she's back.[/QUOTE]If it is around mid night, why not take train back? I usually stay in charlottenberg or savigny platz, so it is only one or two stops away and train in Berlin even at midnight is perfectly safe! I do all my Berlin trip by train beside the taxi ride when I arrive and leave to the airport due to luggage issue! Frankfurt is more kind for train for luggage issue if you stay around hbf!
I'm with DoneDeal.
First visit to any FKK and a newbie punter.
I will concede that the warnings are correct. Went on a weekday and around 8 pm it was fairly quiet. As the night progressed it got busier but the ratio got worse and was probably 3:1 men: women. Three quarters of the women were not fuckable even for free. I think they must have been more plastic than human. All true.
But. For a newbie who has never had anything like this, it was really fun. Naked and barely clothed women everywhere, some sitting at the bar, some approaching you and competing for your money.
Had some Bulgarian chick whose name I don't even remember. After I decided to go with her, she moved my hands to her tits and ass and so I was walking through the bar and then up the stairs with my hands up her panties. Felt quite cheeky. Despite no attempt at bargaining on my part, she acted with lots of enthusiasm and 70 euros later I got to do everything I wanted except for fingerbanging.
Second chick was Lena, a cute German girl next door type. Great blowjob and deep throating with cum on tits. 90 euros.
Jetlag kicked in, so after a few more drinks I called it a night.
The sex was pretty good, a few of the girls were pretty good. But the whole thing is more than the sum of its parts. It's all so easy and served on a platter for you. Maybe for seasoned punters who've been to the other FKKs Artemis is no fun, but to a first timer, hanging around a bar with naked women everywhere will take a while to get old.
Day 2 I tried to go to Agentur Liberty and got there too late. So the long hours are another plus for Artemis.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2690387]I'll check it & report back.[/QUOTE]Checked it some days ago. Sry, there's no reduced entrance fee except pensioners and cabdrivers discount Sunday / Monday. Maybe some misunderstanding.
At the moment Artemis does not look like the place for having good delivery services at fair price.
I have the feelings the golden Era is behind us.
Like a good capitalist, I'll relocate my activities in BCN. The business is still affordable.
I'll keep following up this thread.
Very early days on this newest monkeypox thing, but it is now also in Berlin. Just another reason to wait. [URL]https://berlinspectator.com/2022/05/22/two-monkeypox-cases-in-berlin-no-reason-to-panic/[/URL].
Usual suspects will say, tiny number of cases, mostly due to unprotected sex (maybe - aerosol spread not ruled out), somewhat treatable, etc. We just do not know where this is going. All still too new, also in EU and USA. Just needs watching. But large sex club surely perfect way to ramp this up.
All Covid numbers (cases, hospitalisations) this week finally coming down but still way above where they were this time last year. What people do with their dicks and money up to them. But we locals want to keep Berlin healing from 2 very rough years. Urge all to wait a bit.
[QUOTE=HDN2015;2698356]At the moment Artemis does not look like the place for having good delivery services at fair price.
I have the feelings the golden Era is behind us.
Like a good capitalist, I'll relocate my activities in BCN. The business is still affordable.
I'll keep following up this thread.[/QUOTE]Golden era of Artemis was 2009 to 2015 ish, then after that it was down hill as far as the line up, but in summer 2019, the line up was back up to my surprise! Then pandemic hit in Feb, 2020! Now is 2022 slowly waking up from the darkness of the pandemic, let us see what Kennan can do! But raising the price both for service and entry without stunner young line up and the service is completely out of order! It is the most expensive FKK and line up or service is not good? Artemis should try to be globe of Germany with that new price!
Hello guys,
I was in Berlin earlier this month for one week, but I didn't get around to posting about it until now. I ended up banging 8 total women, with a total of 7 from Artemis (one from Aller-45 brothel). I forgot some names but hopefully my visual descriptions will suffice. Those from Artemis are as follows.
Friday Night 05/13:
Nana. Germany.
Tall, blonde hair, blue eyes, medium natural boobs with a nice butt. She wasn't necessarily mean, but a bit passive aggressive and bitchy. More of PSE. Wouldn't recommend. Did a 30 minute session.
Rebecca. Romania.
Brown hair and eyes, large natural boobs. Her breasts are her best feature, and a nice face as well. She almost looked Latina in fact. She was much nicer than the German Nana, and was more enthusiastic in sex. Perhaps a mix of PSE and GFE. Would recommend, especially if kindness is important when fornicating to you. Did a 30 minute session.
Saturday night 05/14:
? - Tanzania.
She was one of the few black women there, medium natural breasts and ass, and a bit on the taller side. She was very kind also and willing to please, very happy and willing to talk. I would recommend her if you like black women. Did a 30 minute with her also.
? - Romania.
This was a short blonde-dyed haired, more butch looking woman. She had large fake breasts but a very large natural ass, which she used with great efficiency in doggystyle. She was not rude, but seemed a bit cold overall in her approach. I actually sessioned with her twice, similar experience both times. Would recommend if you are a fan of big ass, despite the cold demeanor overall.
Monday night, 05/16 :
Claudia. Poland.
Claudia had long black hair with blue eyes, very pretty face and with a nice figure also. I was surprised when she told me she was 35. I sessioned an hour with her. Sex was pretty good, she was present and vocal. She also was talkative, and smoked after the session. I would recommend her.
Tuesday night, 05/17:
Name started with an are. Italy.
This woman was on the petite side, dark hair and eyes with medium size fake breasts but a very toned, fit body. She even had a six pack. The sex was about as good as the other women I mentioned. She was also very sweet and gave me a pep talk in life of sorts. Would recommend, she is probably the only Italian woman there. Also I sessioned an hour with her.
Katalina. Bulgaria.
Saving the best for last. Katalina had short dark hair with blue eyes, and a very serious yet attractive face. When I approached her I based it primarily on her face, but when we went to go up to the room I noticed she had a very nice ass, which was easily her best feature. She also had small natural breasts which suited her pear shaped physique. My first session with her was a bit awkward (was on Saturday), she was sort of bitchy at first, with her excuse being that she was tired. The sex was alright, submissive moans from her which I liked. Normally I wouldn't session again with a woman who is bitchy, but there was something about her I liked, perhaps her ass and perhaps also just her ' je ne sais quoi'. My next session with her (Tuesday), was far better. I managed to catch her at the beginning of her shift, where she seemed happy and was far more chatty than the night before. The sex was a bit more enthusiastic, and she was much nicer also. Overall I would recommend if you like ass.
My overall assessment is that Artemis is in a decent state. The only other time I have gone was in 2018, and I don't remember it being much different in terms of quality. The forum here would say otherwise, so perhaps me being from the USA has something to do with it. In the US you can expect to pay 500 for a whale, so 90 for entry and 70 for basic sex with a beautiful woman sounds amazing to me.
I was at Artemis for three nights and aligned mostly with the previous poster. Yea it was better in 2019, but it can still be a good time in 2022. Just go in with reasonable expectations. Youre not going to get much real GFE here. But you can find a pretty girl who gives a good BJ and is a solid fuck.
The three nights I would say there were 10+ girls available most of the time, tho not always the hottest. Def a sausage fest at times with I'd say 30-40 guys. Nonetheless if you bide your time and have a few drinks a cutie is bound to pop up. I was with friends so did as much drinking and socializing as fucking. I was pleasantly surprised that pricing has stabilized and as long as u dont get too exotic its a pretty good value. All girls quoted same rate. 70/half. 20 BBBJ. 50 CIM. I managed to keep it to 90 on three out of four sessions so I felt good about what I paid.
I did one girl the first night Elena I think she was clearly a pro but could bring sweetness as required. Very nice slow BJ as requested. The pussy fit wasn't great tho actually too tight! Or would have repeated. Two girls night two. One a bit too business like but super pretty. And the other not as pretty but very sweet and submissive. Last night I struggled a bit because I didn't want to repeat with the business like girl. Finally went down to porno. Got a bit worked up and then was horny as fuck did a sweep of the bar and grabbed the best girl. (Rather recommend this approach! She was solid. No real complaints.
If you come expecting Sharks / Oases selection and ratios you will be disappointed. If you come knowing it's the only game in town, bit of a sausage fest, but you are going to be able to find at least one pretty girl to fuck, you will be fine.
First off, I'm new to this thread so let me just say thank you to everyone that has given their recent feedback. I'll be in Berlin this September for the marathon, and am looking forward to going to some FKK clubs. Any chance there's more females that week because of the amount of tourist that go for the marathon? I also have to imagine that would mean more of a sausage fest as well. Either way, I'm looking forward to going, and I will completely lower my expectations just like the previous post mention.
[QUOTE=Yoan1983M;2705245]I'll be in Berlin this September for the marathon, and am looking forward to going to some FKK clubs. Any chance there's more females that week because of the amount of tourist that go for the marathon? I also have to imagine that would mean more of a sausage fest as well.[/QUOTE]AFAIR Berlin Marathon had no noticeable effect on business in Artemis. Maybe you should visit at Thursday. Or Sunday after the race. Good professional massages available in the basement available.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2703973]I was at Artemis for three nights and aligned mostly with the previous poster. Yea it was better in 2019, but it can still be a good time in 2022. Just go in with reasonable expectations.
The three nights I would say there were 10+ girls available most of the time, tho not always the hottest.[/QUOTE]Firstly thanks for a very good, detailed and honest report. But the above comment made me choke on my beer. 10 girls available. TEN? In Artemis? That isn't anything like 2019 or any other year. I've been in Artemis when 120 girls were present and 90 available. I am left wondering if signals a massive drop in the number of girls working there. Is it that there were a lot of girls but you considered that due to the sausage fest they were all taken? 30-40 guys is really not many compared to the past. Makes me think the club is dying if these are the correct numbers.
Entry still 90? Sounds to me like Berlin / Artemis is not worth the visit. Such a shame. Was my favourite FKK in Germany for a long time (and my first). On these numbers I will not be returning anytime soon.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2705690]Firstly thanks for a very good, detailed and honest report. But the above comment made me choke on my beer. 10 girls available. TEN? In Artemis? That isn't anything like 2019 or any other year. I've been in Artemis when 120 girls were present and 90 available. I am left wondering if signals a massive drop in the number of girls working there. Is it that there were a lot of girls but you considered that due to the sausage fest they were all taken? 30-40 guys is really not many compared to the past. Makes me think the club is dying if these are the correct numbers.
Entry still 90? Sounds to me like Berlin / Artemis is not worth the visit. Such a shame. Was my favourite FKK in Germany for a long time (and my first). On these numbers I will not be returning anytime soon.[/QUOTE]OK let's start with I was overly harsh. The girls are pretty spread out. I was thinking of the bar area. Prob more like 20-25 milling about somewhere. And def a lot of them were occupied. When I went upstairs usually only 5 ish rooms left on the board.
Def not anything 90 or 100+. Yes still 90!entry. It is assuredly NOT worth a special trip. Sharks sounds like it's a a lot more active. I would say if U are in Berlin it's a good (only?) option. But def not worth a trip.
I've read many posts around here of people getting "disappointed" because Artemis isn't what it used to be back in 2019 and before.
Gentlemen, the whole world has changed after 2019. Artemis will surely change it is up to us to adapt. Comparing today with 2019 and before will not do you any benefit, because 2019 is no longer a relevant benchmark (I read some guys are comparing it to 2015. Artemis is not in full control of the ladies, the economy, the purchasing power, inflation, the taxes and the many other variables that affect its business, especially the number of available girls. After years of closure and slow to non-existent business, it is a miracle that the place is still functioning.
I say there's a new page that has been started and Artemis has resurrected post covid. Anything before that period is far from being attainable at least on the short run and hence should not be used as a benchmark.
That being said, having the right, modest, realistic expectations that take into account the external changes is key. Having 2019 expectations as if nothing has changed, will ruin your experience.
[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2706087]I've read many posts around here of people getting "disappointed" because Artemis isn't what it used to be back in 2019 and before.
Gentlemen, the whole world has changed after 2019. Artemis will surely change it is up to us to adapt. Comparing today with 2019 and before will not do you any benefit, because 2019 is no longer a relevant benchmark (I read some guys are comparing it to 2015. Artemis is not in full control of the ladies, the economy, the purchasing power, inflation, the taxes and the many other variables that affect its business, especially the number of available girls. After years of closure and slow to non-existent business, it is a miracle that the place is still functioning.
I say there's a new page that has been started and Artemis has resurrected post covid. Anything before that period is far from being attainable at least on the short run and hence should not be used as a benchmark.
That being said, having the right, modest, realistic expectations that take into account the external changes is key. Having 2019 expectations as if nothing has changed, will ruin your experience.[/QUOTE]It could have changed for better, but they just increased the price and the quality increased? Doesn't sound like it!
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2705690]Firstly thanks for a very good, detailed and honest report. But the above comment made me choke on my beer. 10 girls available. TEN? In Artemis? That isn't anything like 2019 or any other year. I've been in Artemis when 120 girls were present and 90 available. I am left wondering if signals a massive drop in the number of girls working there. Is it that there were a lot of girls but you considered that due to the sausage fest they were all taken? 30-40 guys is really not many compared to the past. Makes me think the club is dying if these are the correct numbers.
Entry still 90? Sounds to me like Berlin / Artemis is not worth the visit. Such a shame. Was my favourite FKK in Germany for a long time (and my first). On these numbers I will not be returning anytime soon.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. As you say. Not meriting a specific journey (I have made plenty to Artemis in the past). I usually like to do 2 clubs in / near Hamburg then Artemis then train to Frankfurt. But I'm not sure I would stop off in Berlin (other than it being a great city) given the recent reports when there are plenty of other options in other German cities.
[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2706087]I've read many posts around here of people getting "disappointed" because Artemis isn't what it used to be back in 2019 and before.
Gentlemen, the whole world has changed after 2019. Artemis will surely change it is up to us to adapt. Comparing today with 2019 and before will not do you any benefit, because 2019 is no longer a relevant benchmark (I read some guys are comparing it to 2015. Artemis is not in full control of the ladies, the economy, the purchasing power, inflation, the taxes and the many other variables that affect its business, especially the number of available girls. After years of closure and slow to non-existent business, it is a miracle that the place is still functioning.
I say there's a new page that has been started and Artemis has resurrected post covid. Anything before that period is far from being attainable at least on the short run and hence should not be used as a benchmark.
That being said, having the right, modest, realistic expectations that take into account the external changes is key. Having 2019 expectations as if nothing has changed, will ruin your experience.[/QUOTE]For sure it is correct that the World has changed, but in so many cities and locations the resurrection you describe has seen a return to almost identical or very close to equal status with these venues pre-pandemic. I don't just mean in Germany. By way of examples, our sport has survived unscathed in Dubai, Madrid, Costa del Sol, London, Manchester. I do not notice any difference at all now from the pre-covid position other than some price increases. Why is Berlin so different? Even in Germany I have been back to Frankfurt and Berlin only during and after the pandemic. I visited Berlin / Artemis in August 2020 and even during the pandemic the club seemed in better shape than recent reports. For sure there have been victims of the pandemic. Thailand and Singapore are only really re-opening now. Oase in Hessen has not returned to its former glory, at least not in my personal opinion based on 2 trips only. Reading the World forum it sounds like it has not recovered, though many would say it was on the decline before the pandemic. I believe Paradise in Stuttgart has closed? But reports from Hamburg clubs, Munich, theüsseldorf, Cologne (see recent very positive Samya report) and from my own several visits to Sharks and Palace show that in fact these clubs have all returned to pre-covid status. That is very much the position in Dubai, Spain and the UK.
I would therefore have expected Berlin, and Artemis, with its complete lack of competition (about which we have all complained for many years) to have been able to achieve what Sharks, or Atmos, or Harmony, or Palace has.
You are correct about limiting expectations. And of course there is no substitute for visiting to find out personally what the picture is. But as Steve 9696 says, it is currently not worth a special visit. When the most expensive entry FKK club (90 e) in Germany cannot recover sufficiently to warrant making a special journey it is in danger of failing to attract tourists. My guess is it would survive on local customers if it needed to, and I would personally be very sad to see it fail, but it's not just customers. If the numbers are low, and punters willing to spend are not high in number, girls will vote with their feet to work in other locations where clubs have completed their full resurrection.
I will repeat what I said in my previous post. Artemis has long been my favourite club. I like the layout and so far as I know it is the only club with a gym. I have found that a great way of spending recovery time between sessions. But ultimately I can go to a gym anywhere. It's all about the girls / line up and value for money. It doesn't sound presently as though that is more than. Dare I say it. Disappointing!
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2706394]Thanks for the update. As you say. Not meriting a specific journey (I have made plenty to Artemis in the past). I usually like to do 2 clubs in / near Hamburg then Artemis then train to Frankfurt. But I'm not sure I would stop off in Berlin (other than it being a great city) given the recent reports when there are plenty of other options in other German cities.
For sure it is correct that the World has changed, but in so many cities and locations the resurrection you describe has seen a return to almost identical or very close to equal status with these venues pre-pandemic. I don't just mean in Germany. By way of examples, our sport has survived unscathed in Dubai, Madrid, Costa del Sol, London, Manchester. I do not notice any difference at all now from the pre-covid position other than some price increases. Why is Berlin so different? Even in Germany I have been back to Frankfurt and Berlin only during and after the pandemic. I visited Berlin / Artemis in August 2020 and even during the pandemic the club seemed in better shape than recent reports. For sure there have been victims of the pandemic. Thailand and Singapore are only really re-opening now. Oase in Hessen has not returned to its former glory, at least not in my personal opinion based on 2 trips only. Reading the World forum it sounds like it has not recovered, though many would say it was on the decline before the pandemic. I believe Paradise in Stuttgart has closed? But reports from Hamburg clubs, Munich, thesseldorf, Cologne (see recent very positive Samya report) and from my own several visits to Sharks and Palace show that in fact these clubs have all returned to pre-covid status. That is very much the position in Dubai, Spain and the UK.
I would therefore have expected Berlin, and Artemis, with its complete lack of competition (about which we have all complained for many years) to have been able to achieve what Sharks, or Atmos, or Harmony, or Palace has.
You are correct about limiting expectations. And of course there is no substitute for visiting to find out personally what the picture is. But as Steve 9696 says, it is currently not worth a special visit. When the most expensive entry FKK club (90 e) in Germany cannot recover sufficiently to warrant making a special journey it is in danger of failing to attract tourists. My guess is it would survive on local customers if it needed to, and I would personally be very sad to see it fail, but it's not just customers. If the numbers are low, and punters willing to spend are not high in number, girls will vote with their feet to work in other locations where clubs have completed their full resurrection.
I will repeat what I said in my previous post. Artemis has long been my favorite club. I like the layout and so far as I know it is the only club with a gym. I have found that a great way of spending recovery time between sessions. But ultimately I can go to a gym anywhere. It's all about the girls / line up and value for money. It doesn't sound presently as though that is more than. Dare I say it. Disappointing![/QUOTE]Very valid argument, can't refute it much. Not sure why Artemis is taking a long time to rebound. Perhaps it is the girls who are changing their preferences and going for clubs that provide better pay? Who has details on how these girls are recruited? (I am sure they are not trafficked) . This would help in answering many questions.
[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2707535]Very valid argument, can't refute it much. Not sure why Artemis is taking a long time to rebound. Perhaps it is the girls who are changing their preferences and going for clubs that provide better pay? Who has details on how these girls are recruited? (I am sure they are not trafficked) . This would help in answering many questions.[/QUOTE]VdJ.
I may have said this in another forum as well. Two visits to Artemis this Spring on different trips. Asked after a couple favorites and the answers were the same. During Corona they left and got private spaces. Met one girl who went away and came back said the stress of managing her own schedule was too much and the costs of being in a house with a panic / security button was too high.
With a little luck by mid summer a few of the regulars will be back. If you're looking for someone you miss l, a careful examination of Berlin Intim or Snatchlist might pay dividends.
Hello guys,
I am thinking of giving Artemis a visit this Friday so is anyone willing to come? So maybe we can go together.
[QUOTE=Nono321;2709089]Hello guys,
I am thinking of giving Artemis a visit this Friday so is anyone willing to come? So maybe we can go together.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure you will receive replies on such a question. The discussions on this forum are primarily built on anonymous identities and names. It is not a social meetup forum.
Anyone know if Alejandro the petite Spanish girl is back.? Short, petite, mid twenties, long curly hair, absolutely amazing fuck! I know Artemis has gone downhill but I'd go back to session her for sure.
[QUOTE=TheCountLincs;2713867]Anyone know if Alejandro the petite Spanish girl is back.? Short, petite, mid twenties, long curly hair, absolutely amazing fuck! I know Artemis has gone downhill but I'd go back to session her for sure.[/QUOTE]Quite sure it's Alejandra. She's also one of my favourites, but not seen her there since covid. I've read someone describing the same girl and name at sharks so perhaps she went there.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2703973]I was pleasantly surprised that pricing has stabilized and as long as u dont get too exotic its a pretty good value. All girls quoted same rate. 70/half. 20 BBBJ. 50 CIM. I managed to keep it to 90 on three out of four sessions so I felt good about what I paid. [/QUOTE]Thank god the pricing is coming down. When I was in Artemis last fall, the girls wouldn't take less than 150 Euro /30 minutes. I couldn't believe it. If they are back to 90/30 for BBBJ and DFK, then I might try again. Otherwise, I had great experiences in Berlin's brothels and wouldn't hesitate to avoid Artemis and just focus on the brothels next time. But your pricing report gives me hope for the future.
[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2714095]Thank god the pricing is coming down. When I was in Artemis last fall, the girls wouldn't take less than 150 Euro /30 minutes. I couldn't believe it. If they are back to 90/30 for BBBJ and DFK, then I might try again. Otherwise, I had great experiences in Berlin's brothels and wouldn't hesitate to avoid Artemis and just focus on the brothels next time. But your pricing report gives me hope for the future.[/QUOTE]Isn t Artemis a brothel? Like sauna clubs and FKK.
[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2707535]Not sure why Artemis is taking a long time to rebound. [/QUOTE]Covid numbers significantly higher past 10 days. All over Europe. In Berlin, we were nearing 1000 new cases per day some weeks back; now 3000-4000 new per day. Yes new variants not quite as dangerous obviously, but you cannot know beforehand how your body will react. Berlin Covid hospitalisation numbers more important and they are far higher than this time last year, and far higher than some weeks ago. You can see official stats in picture below. Just look at hospitalisations late June-early July last year, vs. now. And for sure all this underreports actual numbers. And age distribution widely dispersed, with most cases 20-59 age groups. Some fully vaccinated.
So, girls not stupid and many are simply not willing to run risks. Most of good girls are long gone. Sitting hours in poorly ventilated smokey central room by bar, going with 10+ men / day also running risks. So numbers and quality way off. Then add summer holidays when things slow anyway, and all the travel hassles now in Europe. The hours delays in dense airports, or overcrowded trains are themselves perfect superspreading events. No wonder things are way off anything like normal. Berlin not helping this at all by encouraging Love Parade on 9 July. We will see how many ravers actually show up.
And increasing cases and hospitalisations in countries with very high rates of vaccination also shows how protection waning. Everyone has relaxed restrictions too fast and too soon and the results now clear. Ninja has doctor and nurse friends working in Berlin hospitals and they are pissed off and exhausted.
Most locals now rarely go to A; it is really an expensive, tourist thing now. Said many times, private apartments offer advantage on lower (but not low) risk, better quality and less cost. Different vibe obviously, more effort to find, no pool etc. But far better value. and many now air conditioned.
Situation is very sad and frustrating. But it is what it is. We are all sick of dealing with Covid. But denying what is going on will not help anyone. Just want to inject some reality here because with more reports of adventures, big picture can get lost. Of course you can be lucky. But thinking with big brain says, forget it for now. Last words on this til at least Sept.
Sex helps peoples immune system. I probably infected a girl with flu or covid not many months ago. She was certain it was me. But she also told me that she was 100% again after just an hour or two. Crazy good immune system I tell you.
This is also why a lot of hippies have a lot of sex parties. To boost their immune system and get the correct hormone balance. And there are plenty of studies showing this.
So the most retarded thing we can do is to avoid other people. That will just make our immune system weak. Especially against the flu, covid or any other related corona virus variants.
I have had a lot of flu or covid back in March / April. But now in June I was working with a bunch of people who got covid while I was one of few healthy. I just had a little sore throat for an hour a night. Immune system was ready. And the same thing a few days ago. Sore throat for an hour or two and that was it.
Don't be stupid by avoiding people unless you want to be a great reset victim.
The media and most doctors' are just telling you lies. Even if most of them actually think they are telling you the truth.
They don't know a thing regarding quantum biology. As we have already agreed upon here, and the real world is only a projection from the quantum realm. That is unquestionable.
I was in Artemis in one of the Saturdays in June. Arrived at about 3 PM. It was awful at that time, like 30-40 guys and 5-10 girls.
There was a stunner Romanian red head super hot girl, though. I waited for her to stop talking with a guy and went to talk to her. At first the usual what is your name, where are you from, etc, and then I asked about the pricing. This was my first girl and first time ever in an FKK. She told me the price depended on what I wanted I told her just the normal, kisses, BJ, sex, she told me how much would I be wiling to offer, I told her 70 and she didn't even say a word, and just went away ignoring me. I told her how much then for a good service? And she kept ignoring. F* disrespectful from her. Didn't see her again later that day.
I ended up fucking as my first girl a German big tited, I paid 70 for 30 minutes + 20 for BBBJ. It was ok, we kissed a lot. We had cowboy, missionary and doggy and by doggy she seemed really eager for me to cum, she thought it was already a lot of positions and honestly I felt rushed. But w / e I just closed my eyes and tried to ignore what she was saying and just cum. (It turns me off when the working girls start rushing).
Then I went for a sleep near the pool to rest and after that to the jacuzzi, it was relaxing. At about 6 PM there were already more girls (more guys as well) and it was a bit better, but still not good enough for a 90 euro entrance fee. I chose a Romanian blonde which I found very pretty and went upstairs with her. Again 70/30 + 20 BBBJ; this time + 10 tip. She made an amazing BJ, not deepthroat, but she was skilled with her tongue. There were no kisses but I enjoyed this girl more. We talked a little after fucking, she also seemed like a kind of normal girl and I enjoyed my time talking with her. Many on this profession are already broken souls -. She confessed me she hated when the guy took too much time to cum and that she almost never liked deals for 1 hour. She also told me I could leave the place and come back later at night without paying the entrance fee again, that most of the line up would arrive later and that the place would be open until 4-5 AM.
So I did that, showered and went outside to dinner with some real life friends. Then came back at about 10:30 PM and oh boy this time everything was much better. I'd say around 40 to 50 girls, of also a lot of guys but I only care about the girls' numbers so. I talked to a German with a super fake body, fake tits, fake lips. She was surprisingly nice and had a soft voice and was friendly to me all the time. But I had only one shot left since I had already cum twice in the day, and I had to skip this woman. I went for a Brazilian black girl, called Beatrice, I had already talked with her earlier and well she wasn't really that pretty, but I like black girls a lot and I told her it would be very hard for me to get hard or cum and that she might have to do a lot of work with her mouth if we were going upstairs. She told me it was no problem and that she would make me cum for sure.
So she was my last girl, and yes, she delivered on bed. Brazilians never disappoint. First I laid in bed and she sucked my dick for several minutes, then I told her let's try doggy and see if I can cum, but she sucked me a bit more with her on doggy position, I love when girls suck like this and you can play with their asses. Then we made doggy and I was able to cum and after that we talked a lot. I'm sure we were in the room close to 1 hour.
I was getting ready to leave and just went to the main room to grab a drink and leave but. There was a show at midnight so I of course stayed to enjoy it. It was great, 2 girls did pole dance, the first one was very good, she seemed really happy while taking off her clothes, a true artist LOL. 2nd one was a young one, tall slim and small tits, super hot with a school girl uniform, it actually got me hard again watching her even after 3 cums!
After the show I left. I spent 380 in total (90 entrance, 90 first girl, 100 for girl #2 and 100 for girl #3, I left 10 more to the last 2 girls as a tip). I would've been very disappointed if I had left at 6-7 PM after my 2nd girl, but going out to dinner and then coming back definitely improved the experience for me. I'm not sure if I would come back to this place again, but at least now I know how it works.
I definitely recommend to either do as I did and fuck one at day then leave and come back later at night to fuck another couple of girls. Or just arrive at night and stay until 2-3 AM, the best vibe and girls start after midnight it seems. At least on a Saturday!
[QUOTE=Aureliano16;2714520]I was in Artemis in one of the Saturdays in June. Arrived at about 3 PM. It was awful at that time, like 30-40 guys and 5-10 girls.
I definitely recommend to either do as I did and fuck one at day then leave and come back later at night to fuck another couple of girls. Or just arrive at night and stay until 2-3 AM, the best vibe and girls start after midnight it seems. At least on a Saturday![/QUOTE]Thanks for the report! I personally thought it picks up roughly an hour after they serve the evening buffet. I think I know the first girl you're referring to, she does this to everybody! Is it Raisa?
I've been in the past when there's 80+ girls and there isn't really anywhere to sit, and so many look the same same to each other that it's difficult to choose. 50 girls seems like a good balance.
I should be visiting in a few weeks, I've not been during July before. Hopefully not too many girls have gone on their holidays by then!
I have an upcoming trip to Madrid and I was going to reluctantly steal 2 days to hit Berlin (mainly for Artemis). It seems that it's okay if you are ALREADY in Berlin, but in general it's not worth a trip. I will be in Frankfurt in September, so it sounds like I should reserve my first FKK experience for the Frankfurt or Cologne area clubs.
Thanks for the info guys. Very helpful!
[QUOTE=LshRoomer;2715004]I have an upcoming trip to Madrid and I was going to reluctantly steal 2 days to hit Berlin (mainly for Artemis). It seems that it's okay if you are ALREADY in Berlin, but in general it's not worth a trip. I will be in Frankfurt in September, so it sounds like I should reserve my first FKK experience for the Frankfurt or Cologne area clubs.
Thanks for the info guys. Very helpful![/QUOTE]I think you have the right plan. If I were making plans for Madrid, my first ports of call would be:
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Cheers!
[QUOTE=Aureliano16;2714520]
There was a stunner Romanian red head super hot girl, though. I waited for her to stop talking with a guy and went to talk to her. At first the usual what is your name, where are you from, etc, and then I asked about the pricing. This was my first girl and first time ever in an FKK. She told me the price depended on what I wanted I told her just the normal, kisses, BJ, sex, she told me how much would I be wiling to offer, I told her 70 and she didn't even say a word, and just went away ignoring me. I told her how much then for a good service? And she kept ignoring. F* disrespectful from her. Didn't see her again later that day.
I went for a Brazilian black girl, called Beatrice,[/QUOTE]I hope this red hair Romanian prostitute is an exception, otherwise that may mean this is a trend which could turn as a majority.
I'm glad to read that Beatrice from Rio de Janeiro is still operate. I have read lately other are looking for Alexandra from Valencia.
I might drop by to Art at the end of year obviously if the inflation don't reduce my capacity to morger and there is any complications related to any virus.
Despite many post about how low could Art go, it is still the only German club wherein I can find more non Romanian ladies (especially German ladies).
Thus I will keep visiting this place until I'll lose the taste.
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2714781]
I've been in the past when there's 80+ girls and there isn't really anywhere to sit, and so many look the same same to each other that it's difficult to choose. 50 girls seems like a good balance.[/QUOTE]I remember a period, some Ladies who usually stay around the main room, they came downstairs ans chased men toward the bar in the basement. One told me: I got bored and it is a symptom of lack of actions from the customers.
Hey guys.
I'm wanting to go to this club but I'm having some hesitations. If a girl approaches you, and you don't want her can you just say no or do they cause drama? Have you ever had the experience where the girl charges you more for services you didn't get?
How is the attitude amongst the women? Friendly or just robotic pump and dump?
I really enjoy GFE but may not be possible here. At the same time I don't want to be with someone rushing me either LOL.
Please share your wisdom.
[QUOTE=Koryu;2715706]Hey guys.
I'm wanting to go to this club but I'm having some hesitations. If a girl approaches you, and you don't want her can you just say no or do they cause drama? Have you ever had the experience where the girl charges you more for services you didn't get?
How is the attitude amongst the women? Friendly or just robotic pump and dump?
I really enjoy GFE but may not be possible here. At the same time I don't want to be with someone rushing me either LOL.
Please share your wisdom.[/QUOTE]If you don't want to just say NO THANK YOU. If you want, you can also say: I'm waiting for someone, BUT "no THANK YOU", works for 99% of them. 1% will say WHY NOT, and you say, politely, thank you. And look the other way. The drama queens will huff and puff. But they'll walk away.
Really if you don't talk to them, how will you know what you can expect. So say Hello, ask their name, and you can say, I'll still getting settled. Maybe I'll see you later. This isn't anyone's first rodeo (except you).
You know the story about showing fear when you face a bear. Same goes here. After your first encounter, you'll be fine. I have never had anyone ask me for more money in over a dozen FKKs. Besides remember you are at your locker at this point, not in the room. You're surrounded by people. It's no different than a girl in a hotel room. By the way, make sure if she gives you a list of extras, you clarify what you want, so you know what you're paying anyway.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2715787]If you don't want to just say NO THANK YOU. If you want, you can also say: I'm waiting for someone, BUT "no THANK YOU", works for 99% of them. 1% will say WHY NOT, and you say, politely, thank you. And look the other way. The drama queens will huff and puff. But they'll walk away.[/QUOTE]Just say "no thank you" with a smile on your face. And if the girl has a problem with that, then that's exactly what [B]she[/B] has. A problem. And you don't. I usually do a good job handling any drama queens. But, it seems like at least once a trip I get fed up with a loud "why not"? The last time I got that (at Sharks), I angrily replied "[B]because I said so[/B]"! Some girls, especially the pretty ones, aren't used to getting turned down. I remember I turned one down at Palace and could see the resulting micro expression of anger in her pretty little face. This is a sales business honey. If you can't take a respectful "no" for an answer, then you need to get out of it!
[QUOTE=Aureliano16;2714520]
There was a stunner Romanian red head super hot girl, though. I waited for her to stop talking with a guy and went to talk to her. At first the usual what is your name, where are you from, etc, and then I asked about the pricing. This was my first girl and first time ever in an FKK. She told me the price depended on what I wanted I told her just the normal, kisses, BJ, sex, she told me how much would I be wiling to offer, I told her 70 and she didn't even say a word, and just went away ignoring me. I told her how much then for a good service? And she kept ignoring. F* disrespectful from her. Didn't see her again later that day.
[/QUOTE]Sounds like Avril. She's become more straight to business over the years, but in my opinion, is still worth every in the room!
[QUOTE=Koryu;2715706]If a girl approaches you, and you don't want her can you just say no or do they cause drama?[/QUOTE]See posts below (Mr. The Cane, Mr. Tintin1) - all said.
[QUOTE=Koryu;2715706]Have you ever had the experience where the girl charges you more for services you didn't get?[/QUOTE]To be honest: It happened to me. AFAIR not more than five times over the years. Usually it was about the time spent upstairs. No big deal.
[QUOTE=Koryu;2715706]How is the attitude amongst the women? Friendly or just robotic pump and dump?[/QUOTE]You'll find both extremes. And the whole range in-between.
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2714781]Thanks for the report! I personally thought it picks up roughly an hour after they serve the evening buffet. I think I know the first girl you're referring to, she does this to everybody! Is it Raisa?[/QUOTE]Don't think so. Raissa isn't a real redhead. Maybe there's a light reddish shimmer, but that's all. IMHO Avril, see post below (Mr. TheRugdr).
[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2715866]Sounds like Avril. She's become more straight to business over the years, but in my opinion, is still worth every in the room![/QUOTE]Avril for sure, she is very business oriented and like to interview the customer first, but still she gives great sessions for the right amount.
I've sessioned with Avril at least twice, not going to dispute her service. I wouldn't call her stunning though! Maybe 6. 5/10. I can only think of one other real redhead there and she's kinda shy.
Anyway, I'd never session with anyone that didn't have manners. I usually decline every approach, and see how respond. Women call it the "shit test". Attitude is the first thing you should look for.
Avril is a legend. Seven or eight years ago, when a Saturday at Artemis often was something like a grand choreography of milking males, Avril was the leader of the girls. Seeing her walking through the glass door again and again, pulling her next worshiper in her trail, was a sign of the twisted turn in gender relations in an FKK. At Artemis the girls ruled. Avril's slim body and her obvious intelligence made her a treat to be with. Service was alway excellent if she liked a guy. Unfortunately she converted to silicone at some point. Still always nice when she returns from her hideaway in the deep South of Romania.
My first FKK experience was at Artemis in summer of 2017 (August?) and there I session'd with Emily (Bulgarian) and Caro (Kazakh). Emily was blonde and Caro was brunette. Does anyone know what happened to them or if either are still in the industry?
[QUOTE=ZedLea123;2716334]My first FKK experience was at Artemis in summer of 2017 (August?) and there I session'd with Emily (Bulgarian) and Caro (Kazakh). Emily was blonde and Caro was brunette. Does anyone know what happened to them or if either are still in the industry?[/QUOTE]AFAIR Emily left late spring 2018 and returned for a short episode in summer 2019. Didn't spot her since then. Don't remember a girl named Caro from Kazakhstan.
First time to Artemis in the daytime. Unfortunately it was gray and cool so no outside activities. I'the say there were like 20 guys and 15 girls. All the girls were def older like thirties (or hard life late twenties) but actually quite pretty and slim for the most part. I was pleasantly surprised by the optics fully sober.
I chatted up one girl who I liked but she said she'the been there 8 years and I try to avoid girls that experienced. After a bit more searching, a bite and some porn I chose Tara. Clearly late thirties face but damn a real banging body. She swears she doesn't work out but has a nice tight belly and kick ass ass. Seems the covered quote has gone up to 70 but no change in overall including BBBJ at 90 inclusive. Nice experience. Solid but unspectacular BJ. Nice feeling pussy in all positions. Came in doggy which is rare.
Feeling rather horny just took a quick sauna and thought about round two. Wasn't feeling a vibe from anyone so went to the porno to get a little cranked up and improve the sex googles. Wasn't long before a girl came in and made an offer I couldn't refuse. BBBJ in the porno. Including BLS. To be fair she mixed in some baby oil and HJ but it all felt really good. I agreed to CIM upcharge if she took her time and we made it last. She was good about pausing when asked and I gave her a nice load in her mouth about twenty minutes in (it was quite good). This was an unexpected benefit as I haven't enjoyed the keno BJ since the law went into effect 5 or so years ago. Was truly great.
Só a bit milfy. And a bit too experienced for my taste. But some nice pretty and slim ladies and totally worth it for me.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2718032]First time to Artemis in the daytime. Unfortunately it was gray and cool so no outside activities. I'the say there were like 20 guys and 15 girls. All the girls were def older like thirties (or hard life late twenties) but actually quite pretty and slim for the most part. I was pleasantly surprised by the optics fully sober.
I chatted up one girl who I liked but she said she'the been there 8 years and I try to avoid girls that experienced. After a bit more searching, a bite and some porn I chose Tara. Clearly late thirties face but damn a real banging body. She swears she doesn't work out but has a nice tight belly and kick ass ass. Seems the covered quote has gone up to 70 but no change in overall including BBBJ at 90 inclusive. Nice experience. Solid but unspectacular BJ. Nice feeling pussy in all positions. Came in doggy which is rare.
Feeling rather horny just took a quick sauna and thought about round two. Wasn't feeling a vibe from anyone so went to the porno to get a little cranked up and improve the sex googles. Wasn't long before a girl came in and made an offer I couldn't refuse. BBBJ in the porno. Including BLS. To be fair she mixed in some baby oil and HJ but it all felt really good. I agreed to CIM upcharge if she took her time and we made it last. She was good about pausing when asked and I gave her a nice load in her mouth about twenty minutes in (it was quite good). This was an unexpected benefit as I haven't enjoyed the keno BJ since the law went into effect 5 or so years ago. Was truly great.
S a bit milfy. And a bit too experienced for my taste. But some nice pretty and slim ladies and totally worth it for me.[/QUOTE]Great report, thanks for sharing. Just curious, the cinema experience is that the same price as full service in a room?
[QUOTE=GhostrRider1305;2718354]Great report, thanks for sharing. Just curious, the cinema experience is that the same price as full service in a room?[/QUOTE]Yes same price. We did some doggie also but the BJ was quite good so swapped back to that to finish. Oh I forgot a funny episode. My girl was on her knees doing her thing and me on the couch. Another girl comes in and waves to me and says something in German — maybe need some company? And my girl pops up and says something like hey I'm already on it! There was a big laugh as the new girl clearly hadn't seen my raven haired girl on the floor between my legs! Haha.
[QUOTE=TeFab456;2716322]Avril is a legend. Seven or eight years ago, when a Saturday at Artemis often was something like a grand choreography of milking males, Avril was the leader of the girls. Seeing her walking through the glass door again and again, pulling her next worshiper in her trail, was a sign of the twisted turn in gender relations in an FKK. At Artemis the girls ruled. Avril's slim body and her obvious intelligence made her a treat to be with. Service was always excellent if she liked a guy. Unfortunately she converted to silicone at some point. Still always nice when she returns from her hideaway in the deep South of Romania.[/QUOTE]Oh God! I'll cross my fingers and hope she's back. She was my no. 1 girl back in 2013-14 - always a pleasure with top service, and a fun and playful girl who was really good company outside the rooms too. I'm going back to Artemis this Saturday for the first time in 7 years. It would be very nice if she had returned. That would 100% be a repeat!
[QUOTE=Montezi;2719659]Oh God! I'll cross my fingers and hope she's back. She was my no. 1 girl back in 2013-14 - always a pleasure with top service, and a fun and playful girl who was really good company outside the rooms too. I'm going back to Artemis this Saturday for the first time in 7 years. It would be very nice if she had returned. That would 100% be a repeat![/QUOTE]Please report on your experience! I'll be in Berlin by the end of the month and I'm not sure if It will be worth going or if it's better to go with independent ASPs.
I am going to visit Berlin in a couple of weeks and will of course make a stop at Artemis which I have not visited since the Corona outbreak. Therefore I wonder if anyone have seen any of the following girls there lately:
- Franceska, Dark hair, silicone breast and often using glasses that makes her super sexy.
- Amy, Blond German girl with natural tits and around 1,70. No tattoos.
- The two sisters, blonde long hair, around 1,65. The younger had natural tits and the older silicone and an arm sleeve tattoo.
- Jordan, blond German girl with silicone. Usually also had glasses.
In the middle of reports, do not overlook Covid spiking here now because everyone "feels" it is over or managable. Simple mask wearing and distancing has become a joke. So, hospitalisations way up vs. Last summer (maybe 50 beds in July 2021, now over 800 beds full, with wide age spectrum mostly 29-60 yrs old). New cases now regularly over 4,000 per day (which surely understates it, as testing has grown lax and no longer free).
All here (every day the grey graph lines are total hospitalisations / stationaire behandlung): [URL]https://data.lageso.de/lageso/corona/corona.html#station%C3%A4 re-behandlung[/URL]
In middle of all this, men and women at Artemis are risk runners, more than typical population. As most locals have stopped, more mixing is with tourists traveling with more exposure potential. Independents are a possible improvement but obviously only slightly less risk and choices weak now also.
Ninja know this will not deter the hard core who do not need science or common sense. But for rest, do not say you do not know. It is not business as usual. This plus prices, plus weaker summer lineup, added to risks of airport and flight chaos and train overcrowding, etc., it is both not worth it and simply unwise to go now.
[QUOTE=Grom666;2721026]I am going to visit Berlin in a couple of weeks and will of course make a stop at Artemis which I have not visited since the Corona outbreak. Therefore I wonder if anyone have seen any of the following girls there lately:
- Franceska, Dark hair, silicone breast and often using glasses that makes her super sexy.
- Amy, Blond German girl with natural tits and around 1,70. No tattoos.
- The two sisters, blonde long hair, around 1,65. The younger had natural tits and the older silicone and an arm sleeve tattoo.
- Jordan, blond German girl with silicone. Usually also had glasses.[/QUOTE]I didn't see Amy for more than 2 years. Pity, I like this girl.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2721644]In the middle of reports, do not overlook Covid spiking here now because everyone "feels" it is over or managable. Simple mask wearing and distancing has become a joke. So, hospitalisations way up vs. Last summer (maybe 50 beds in July 2021, now over 800 beds full, with wide age spectrum mostly 29-60 yrs old). New cases now regularly over 4,000 per day (which surely understates it, as testing has grown lax and no longer free).
All here (every day the grey graph lines are total hospitalisations / stationaire behandlung): [URL]https://data.lageso.de/lageso/corona/corona.html#station%C3%A4 re-behandlung[/URL]
In middle of all this, men and women at Artemis are risk runners, more than typical population. As most locals have stopped, more mixing is with tourists traveling with more exposure potential. Independents are a possible improvement but obviously only slightly less risk and choices weak now also.
Ninja know this will not deter the hard core who do not need science or common sense. But for rest, do not say you do not know. It is not business as usual. This plus prices, plus weaker summer lineup, added to risks of airport and flight chaos and train overcrowding, etc., it is both not worth it and simply unwise to go now.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry if this may sound simplistic, but how come hospitalizations are high when the vaccination rate is very high too? Vaccines prevent hospitalization and death, and this should be reflected in the hospital beds for people of this age group, no?
[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2721889]I'm sorry if this may sound simplistic, but how come hospitalizations are high when the vaccination rate is very high too? Vaccines prevent hospitalization and death, and this should be reflected in the hospital beds for people of this age group, no?[/QUOTE]Because BA. 5 and 2. 75 mutations seem to punch through, and some of the data suggests in any case the vax efficacy can wear off against these after 2 months. The point is we just don't fully know. Also context is very high new daily (under) reported case numbers, so vax is helping when viewed against that. You look at the numbers and they are significantly up. The hospitalisation numbers are much higher than we have seen in 2 summers and starting to approach even Dec levels. ICU still low but also ticking up. Ninja have doctor and nurse friends in hospitals and they are concerned.
You can see all the data on site mentioned. Point is everyone needs to understand the context and conditions here. We have all been too loose and lax about this and the inevitable consequences are now apparent.
Local friends all scratching heads, especially as Berlin gov. Encouraging big crowding events like Rave the World, and big Christopher Day parties this weekend. But Mayor was diagnosed with 2nd bout of Covid yesterday.
So this was my first visit in 7 years. I visited 4 times back in 2013-2015, but always on wednesdays. I had a buddy of mine with me, and it was his first ever visit to a saunaclub, and we spend almost all day and night there.
We arrived around 13.30 and I showed him around. Around 2 pm there were probably around 12-15 girls and about half was hot. I ended up starting with a black girl who called herself Chocolate, even though I had an idea it wouldn't be mindblowing. And it wasn't. She was trying to finish me off quickly, like after 8 minutes. But I wasn't having any of that and made that clear. So she got to work for it instead, and I enden up with a BJ for the last 10 minutes, without cumming. (4/10).
My buddy took one of the blonde "sisters" and that was a middle of the road experience.
My next round was with this cute dirty-blonde Romanian with glasses, who had the sexiest librarian-fantasy going in my head. Her name was Dara and she just had this perfekt look for me, so after a couple of minutes af chit chat we went upstairs. She was really nice and had a really nice and tight pussy. And the most perfectly made fake boobs, which felt very natural. The sex was great with a really good BJ and different positions. Which ended with her making me cum in cowgirl. (7/10).
Then we ran into Avril. My all time favourite FKK-girl, and my buddy was immediately infatuated with her. I told him that if he wanted her first, he should do something about or I would. So he went with her and was quite infatuated with her afterwards.
A bit later I went over and started chatting her up. And as expected she couldn't remember me. Well she's an expensive girl and apparently won't go for less than 100€/30 min (which I was prepared for after reading this forum), but I know she delivers and didn't care. But she was a bit surprised when I just opted for 1 hour up front. So we went upstairs and long story short; she was her old funny and playful self and gave the usual top service, so I had a blast as always. I absolutely adore this girl. Beautiful, fun and silly! (9/10).
My buddy went with a blonde Moldavian girl named Monica. Who also gave him a really great experience.
I had had my eyes on this very pretty dark-blonde girl who was a tiny bit curvyer than the run of the mill modeltype girls and had this special kind of look. Something a bit mysterious and indeterminable. At some point I sat beside her and we started talking and her name was Ginger. And after a while she asked very politely if I might be up for a BJ in the cinema and then find a room. And I certainly was! So we started with the BJ in the cinema which was almost full of people and after a while she asked if I wanted to find a room or fuck here. HERE! Was my prompt answer. That was super nice and she me come fucking her on the couch. Really sweet girl and very service minded. I liked her a lot. (8/10).
After a couple of hours I decided for another run, and totally out of character I decided for another round with Ginger and fortunately she was up for it. We went upstairs and this resulted in another great session, even a little better than the first, and she made me cum again. She might very well be a repeat if I ever run into her again. (9/10).
My buddy went for this Lebanese girl called Gabriella (I think) after she rejected me earlier, since I only wanted 30 minutes with covered BJ. Fair enough. This was around 1 pm and at this point she accepted his offer for the same. He wasn't impressed and it was a mediocre experience.
My last session was with this very beautiful slim Bulgarian girl called Caitlin. She was really sweet but the sex was a bit detached, and after like 20 minutes I decided to blow my load for the last time that day. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't amazing either. (6/10).
Overall a great day and night at Artemis. And for me the lineup was more than adequate, probably around 60 girls through out the day, a handfull of stunners and a lot of very pretty girls. I wasn't missing options and could easily have gone with 15-20 of the other girls. If time, money and stamina had allowed me to.
[QUOTE=Montezi;2722383]Then we ran into Avril. My all time favourite FKK-girl, and my buddy was immediately infatuated with her. I told him that if he wanted her first, he should do something about or I would. So he went with her and was quite infatuated with her afterwards. A bit later I went over and started chatting her up. And as expected she couldn't remember me.[/QUOTE]These tutes fuck so many men that I assert they wouldn't recognize even their own brother if he came strutting in there in a robe! LOLOLOLOL!
[QUOTE=Montezi;2722383]So this was my first visit in 7 years. I visited 4 times back in 2013-2015, but always on wednesdays. I had a buddy of mine with me, and it was his first ever visit to a saunaclub, and we spend almost all day and night there.
Overall a great day and night at Artemis. And for me the lineup was more than adequate, probably around 60 girls through out the day, a handfull of stunners and a lot of very pretty girls. I wasn't missing options and could easily have gone with 15-20 of the other girls. If time, money and stamina had allowed me to.[/QUOTE]Good heavens! I'm 67 and I can manage 2 sessions if I'm lucky. Enjoy it while you can.
[QUOTE=Montezi;2722383]
My buddy took one of the blonde "sisters" and that was a middle of the road experience.
[/QUOTE]Very nice report. Do you remember which of the sisters he took that wasn't that good?
[QUOTE=Max#01;2722575]Good heavens! I'm 67 and I can manage 2 sessions if I'm lucky. Enjoy it while you can.[/QUOTE]2 sessions at age 67 is good enough I think and you do use cialis or levitra or viagra or something like that right?
[QUOTE=Max#01;2722575]Good heavens! I'm 67 and I can manage 2 sessions if I'm lucky. Enjoy it while you can.[/QUOTE]Indeed. I counted five shots!
Most I've ever managed is 4 and these days I can just about squeeze 3 out.
Re The Cane, some have a memory of a goldfish others an elephant! I knew I was whoring too much when I went to Sharks once and a couple of girls remembered me from previous sessions but I had no recollection until I checked my old reports!
[QUOTE=MrHo;2722714]2 sessions at age 67 is good enough I think and you do use cialis or levitra or viagra or something like that right?[/QUOTE]Ok here's a bold question: how many 'sessions' would one be able to do as he grows older?
For example me, I'm in my mid 30's. Good health. I know I can do 5 sessions in a day. What should I expect when I reach my 40's? 50's? 60's? 70's? Is my stamina age-based or health-based or two? Would I still be able to do a session or two in my 70's? Which age does it really go down?
Would be nice to hear some input from different men around here given that we all come from different age groups, I guess.
[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2723051]Ok here's a bold question: how many 'sessions' would one be able to do as he grows older?
For example me, I'm in my mid 30's. Good health. I know I can do 5 sessions in a day. What should I expect when I reach my 40's? 50's? 60's? 70's? Is my stamina age-based or health-based or two? Would I still be able to do a session or two in my 70's? Which age does it really go down?
Would be nice to hear some input from different men around here given that we all come from different age groups, I guess.[/QUOTE]As a consultant, I answer "it depends". .
I guess, you cannot do 5 sessions a day for a full week?
I am 65 and can do 3 sessions a day, I think. But not for a week.
It also depends a lot on the girl I think. Just before covid, I was in Artemis and have had 3 sessions that day. Time was midnigt and I felt is was time to retire.
Ran into Anja and she asked me if I was ready for her. I told her I have had 3 session and that was my daily performance limit. She told me: "I will manage this, just relax. I am proffessional you know!" And so it went, without any problems at all. .
[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2723051]Ok here's a bold question: how many 'sessions' would one be able to do as he grows older?
For example me, I'm in my mid 30's. Good health. I know I can do 5 sessions in a day. What should I expect when I reach my 40's? 50's? 60's? 70's? Is my stamina age-based or health-based or two? Would I still be able to do a session or two in my 70's? Which age does it really go down?
Would be nice to hear some input from different men around here given that we all come from different age groups, I guess.[/QUOTE]I am serial monger since age 17 around world, did both pro and normal stunners till age 26, then turned almost full time monger when I noticed mongering industry provide top stunners as I would want in private life, so my eyes and body are used to beautiful women making me bit bored, so this is my mental status of mine! I used to do 10 to max 14 days everyday FKK trip to Artemis, and now I cut to 5 days trip each and do 2 to 3 trips per year to Germany like that before pandemic! I am physically fit, interval jogging everyday and weight training twice per week! So fit body!
So based on above profile, I was able to do around 5 times with all cum and max was 7 times with all cums in Artemis back in year 2009 till 2015 ish, I was 29 to 35 years old back then! Now, then when I was around 35, I begin to see physical difference! I can do 3 session, but 4th session will be weak and often my dick become weak on 4th session on first day and second or third day 3rd session can be shaky! So I began with arghinine, that worked well, then I turned to cialis as I realized arghinine can mess with amino acid balance! So my turning point was around age 35 ! I can still do 3 sessions without it, but not everyday continuously!
Is this me getting old? Maybe! But also I blame my head as I have been fucking top stunners for years and I do still get excited when I see new stunner, but my eyes, body and dicks are too used to hot girls and doing hardcore thing, so I also blame the mental side as well! So far cialis and I tried levitra works fine and usually I pop it after second session in FKK!
I am being honest here above and I bet soon we may have famous french guy here on forum saying he is super man doing sport so he can fuck forever LOL! Which is total bullshits that nobody believes LOL!!
[QUOTE=BlueSwede;2723158]As a consultant, I answer "it depends".
I guess, you cannot do 5 sessions a day for a full week?
I am 65 and can do 3 sessions a day, I think. But not for a week.
It also depends a lot on the girl I think. Just before covid, I was in Artemis and have had 3 sessions that day. Time was midnight and I felt is was time to retire.
Ran into Anja and she asked me if I was ready for her. I told her I have had 3 session and that was my daily performance limit. She told me: "I will manage this, just relax. I am professional you know!" And so it went, without any problems at all. .[/QUOTE]I am almost 70 and can testify that bad news are that the number of sessions goes down with age BUT good news are that the erection duration goes up!
[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2723051]Ok here's a bold question: how many 'sessions' would one be able to do as he grows older?[/QUOTE]My 1st night in Art I came 5 or 6 times.
For my 35th birthday in Art I came 8 times.
I practice sport, my blood circulates well.
I can cum at least twice a day every day in a row of 2 weeks.
I think it's like everything: practice = the more you do the more you stay above the average level.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2723182]Is this me getting old? Maybe! But also I blame my head as I have been fucking top stunners for years and I do still get excited when I see new stunner, but my eyes, body and dicks are too used to hot girls and doing hardcore thing, so I also blame the mental side as well![/QUOTE]More than anything, in most cases this is the real reason. You've been fucking and getting your "anal" licked by hot girls for decades. It's mental. The biggest sex organ is the brain, and over time it takes more and more and more mental stimuli to make the brain "cum" LOL!
My recent trip was on a Wednesday (lingerie day), which also happened to be BBQ day. This time I took the FEX (Flughafen Express?) from underneath * 1&2 at Brandenburg to Central station and then changed platform for S41/42 ringbahn to Westkreuz. All nicely signposted.
I arrived early enough for there still to be really tasty omelette left for breakfast. It was 38 see, so didn't bother going outside as I assumed there would be no one out there. There is now a mouthwash dispenser with small cups by the changing room sink, which I think is really useful.
After maybe an hour of chilling in the lounge with hardly any girls around, I decided to go for a walk and discovered that 10 of them were outside sunbathing naked by the pool. It was a fun atmosphere with music and BBQ food eventually being served. Around 20 other men by the pool were just staring at the hottest girls, one guy even ordered champagne for them. But no one seemed to be interested in fucking. The hottest girl there caught me staring at her naked but I didn't fancy approaching her in front of 20 other guys watching. I ate some BBQ beef, chicken and chips by the pool and eventually went inside for a session with a girl I've been with before.
Violetta (ROM) - Tall, really busty and curvy without being fat, black hair, facially 6/10. I knew from previous experience that she wouldn't rush and delivered a really nice and slow covered BJ to completion. First session is always a quick one, so I prefer not to rush it. 70.
Tanya (RUS) - So the tanned hot girl by the pool, eventually came inside and wore an extremely sexy neon orange bikini top lined with metallic rings. Long black hair, perfect tanned body, nice lips, green eyes, facially stunning 9/10, no tattoos, 32 the fake but natural looking tits. I think she got a bit fed up of how slow business was and went to lie down, so I took my chance and she stated to me that she only does OWO & sex for 90, to which I agreed. Great OWO was delivered and then moved to have sex in CG, reverse CG and a few others. It felt like she wanted to show me all her sex skills in each position before moving to the next. Eventually she chose the pretzel dip position which was extremely hot, I got to pump her tight pussy at my own pace while groping her boob and bum at the same time with each hand. She stared at me with her green eyes making all kinds of really sexy noises until we both finally climaxed (she faked it obvs! That Russian woman in Goldeneye made those exact noises! 90.
Ameera (ROM) - Really pretty bleached blonde, long straight hair, nice lips, new fake 32 the tits. Wouldn't let me touch, didn't like much touching at all. She did deliver a nice slow covered BJ and bounced on my dick in CG until I came. But was so dull and mechanical, I would not recommend her. Even when I gave her money, she just dashed and barely looked at me. I could tell it may go like this when I first spoke to her, but I guess I felt at the time having sex with such a stunning girl would still make a nice memory, it did not! 70.
Helen (ROM) - Tall, long leggy, naturally 32 DD boobs, long straight black hair, size 10. Facially 7/10. Kissed some parts of my body and then delivered good covered BJ and sex in CG, I then suggested the Pretzel Dip position since it was so hot with Tanya and OMG it banged! Pumped her until I exploded. She asked if she was my first as she was cleaning me up, I said no. Second? No. Third? No. Four? Yes. She was genuinely amazed and normally I would mention that I've done 7 once before, but I decided it wasn't worth bragging about to a hooker. 70.
Tara (ROM) - Tall, size 10,32 DD enhanced but natural looking tits, nice lips, bit like Sienna West, really pretty, medium length dirty blonde / brown hair with glasses. Had that sexy teacher look about her. Again, she kissed some parts of my body and then delivered good covered BJ and sex in CG, I again suggested the Pretzel Dip position and she made some nice sexy noises until I came. 70.
Nana (GER) - Really bubbly, short, bleached blonde firecracker. Natural 32 see tits, size 10, nice round lips, a few small shoulder tattoos. Facially stunning 9/10. I decided on an OWO session as I could tell she would be really good. She sucked on my nipples and then kissed her way down to my dick, and eventually started sucking with loads of eye contact. Deep throated and gagged a few times. Slapped my dick onto her tongue where I could see her tongue piercing and continued doing this for around 15 minutes. She was in no rush to stop but eventually I wanted to fuck, so she mounted me in CG and grinded away slowly until she could tell I was going to cum and then she upped the pace until I came. I think she was the most enthusiastic girl I've ever met, really loud but friendly and said she was eager to see me later in the evening. 90.
Tatiana (ROM) - Tall tanned blonde, size 8, really pretty, new fake tits with no droop, no tattoos. Hangs around with Raisa. Only managed covered BJ and sex in doggie until I came. It was a short session of my choosing because I didn't think I'd be able to hold a hard on for that long after so many sessions. But she was friendly enough. 70.
I then helped myself to some more BBQ food outside and desert. A Swedish guy asked to sit on my table and gave me his story of the evening. I was prepared to call it a night but it was nice having some company to I stayed a bit longer and we went back inside. We just exchanged info on girls we had sessioned with. Both of us had our eyes on a girl that looked like Angelika Black, but with natural droopy tits. I did also have my eye on her before outside by the pool but she was hanging around with a couple of guys with champagne and looked occupied. Around midnight some strippers started performing which was good entertainment.
Melanie (ROM) - Short blonde hair, curvy size 12, big natural tits, facially pretty 8/10. Normal size lips which made her really naturally attractive, no tattoos. I had been with her before and knew she would be good. Kissed my body and gave a great covered BJ and had sex in CG and doggie. I pumped her for ages and she took it like a champ but I was getting tired, so she finished me by hand and mentioned that there was only a small amount of cum left! She said that she must be my second lady of the day, I just nodded. We talked for a while and gave me a really big hug afterwards which was nice. 70.
So I spent quite a bit of money, but had a really good time. I think the ratio of men and women was 50:50. I did notice a few ladies embracing each other like they had been away for a long time and some had mentioned to me that they were not vaxxed and this is why they are only back now that the requirement had been lifted. The ladies have all agreed that covered BJ and sex is the basic 70 service and are only charging 20 extra for OWO. I only did OWO with 2 ladies that I knew would be worth it. There are quite a few stunning girls there, but you do have to approach them yourself as I had to with all the ladies mentioned above. Personally, I would wait until September for more women to return from holidays and the flight problems to settle. But if you're already booked up to go, then I'm sure you'll have a blast!
Wov I don't know how you do 7 times? I am in 50's healthy and exercise but manage maximum 3 times in a 10 hour window and that too with the help of sildenaphil. Kudos to you man. Please let us know your secret.
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2723675]My recent trip was on a Wednesday (lingerie day), which also happened to be BBQ day. This time I took the FEX (Flughafen Express?) from underneath * 1&2 at Brandenburg to Central station and then changed platform for S41/42 ringbahn to Westkreuz. All nicely signposted.
I arrived early enough for there still to be really tasty omelette left for breakfast. It was 38 see, so didn't bother going outside as I assumed there would be no one out there. There is now a mouthwash dispenser with small cups by the changing room sink, which I think is really useful.
After maybe an hour of chilling in the lounge with hardly any girls around, I decided to go for a walk and discovered that 10 of them were outside sunbathing naked by the pool. It was a fun atmosphere with music and BBQ food eventually being served. Around 20 other men by the pool were just staring at the hottest girls, one guy even ordered champagne for them. But no one seemed to be interested in fucking. The hottest girl there caught me staring at her naked but I didn't fancy approaching her in front of 20 other guys watching. I ate some BBQ beef, chicken and chips by the pool and eventually went inside for a session with a girl I've been with before..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MuscleHetero;2723792]Wov I don't know how you do 7 times? I am in 50's healthy and exercise but manage maximum 3 times in a 10 hour window and that too with the help of sildenaphil. Kudos to you man. Please let us know your secret.[/QUOTE]Sildenaphil last for 10 hours? I thought long effect drug is cialis, not viagra?
[QUOTE=MuscleHetero;2723792]Wov I don't know how you do 7 times? I am in 50's healthy and exercise but manage maximum 3 times in a 10 hour window and that too with the help of sildenaphil. Kudos to you man. Please let us know your secret.[/QUOTE]It's 8 actually. On my very first trip I managed 7, but I was not a drinker or smoker back then, we have smoking banned indoors in the UK. I did start smoking due to constantly being around it in clubs and found myself only managing 4 or 5 rooms. But I have quit again and feel more healthy. I also hit the gym more frequently and have stopped watching porn. Also, there is a better selection of women now, and I feel more confident approaching girls I'm really attracted to. I think all these thinks make a small difference.
[QUOTE=MuscleHetero;2723792]Wov I don't know how you do 7 times? I am in 50's healthy and exercise but manage maximum 3 times in a 10 hour window and that too with the help of sildenaphil. Kudos to you man. Please let us know your secret.[/QUOTE]7 times is possible. Doesn't need a superman. Just make sure you take basic good care of your health: regular exercise, no (or limited) smoking, giving yourself enough breaks between sessions and choosing the girl that matches your body type and desires. A combination of these would lead to a 7+ sessions a day, why not.
[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2725831]7 times is possible. Doesn't need a superman. Just make sure you take basic good care of your health: regular exercise, no (or limited) smoking, giving yourself enough breaks between sessions and choosing the girl that matches your body type and desires. A combination of these would lead to a 7+ sessions a day, why not.[/QUOTE]I used to able to do 7 times with 7 cums in one day, but after I hit 35, I can do 3 or 4 max unfortunately!
I am happy that I found FKK artemis at age 29 and enjoy my days there at my peak till 35 ! Now let me work on to get back to my 7 cums somehow LOL! It need more than exercise etc, I do that and am fit, I think it is more mental than physical for me because of years of fucking so many stunners, my mind got so used to it and body do not follow what I want to do!
Thanks for your detailed report. Very useful.
I'm planning my first ever FKK visit next week since I'll be in Berlin. I was hoping for a more recent review from this month and wondering if I should spend the day elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2723675]I Personally, I would wait until September for more women to return from holidays and the flight problems to settle. But if you're already booked up to go, then I'm sure you'll have a blast![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrBrown069;2732730]Thanks for your detailed report. Very useful.
I'm planning my first ever FKK visit next week since I'll be in Berlin. I was hoping for a more recent review from this month and wondering if I should spend the day elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
If you go over to the Sharks (Darmstadt) forum, you'll find an interesting discussion about "summer and line ups", but also about day of the week that is just as relevant for Artemis as Sharks. If you go on a Friday, you should have a nice choice. I'd say a Monday could be tough. There's a great report in April by ERIK### (some numbers after his name) He went to 3 Bordellos en route to Sharks. Maybe that should be your back up plan. If you find something along the route, you don't need to worry about visiting Artemis. The report is in Berlin folder.
Also don't forget :http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4033-The-Berlin-Sex-Scene.-A-Beginner-s-Guide
As I mentioned before, I'll be visiting Artemis at the end of September during the Marathon and I honestly can't wait for my visit to the club. I did manage to convince one of my friends to go with me. However he seems a bit nervous, and I think it has to do with him being on the heavier side. My question is, do females tend to reject men who are heavier? I know the ladies pick who they'll be with, but I would feel extremely bad if I saw my friend not getting any action. Either way I've been reading all the info you lads have dropped here, and I appreciate it all. Expect a report from me at the end of next month.
[QUOTE=Yoan1983M;2734726]My question is, do females tend to reject men who are heavier? I know the ladies pick who they'll be with, but I would feel extremely bad if I saw my friend not getting any action..[/QUOTE]No worries, your friend will get action. I've seen some extremely overweight guys at various clubs over the years, and they had no problem getting action. The girls aren't there to bang someone they fancy. They are there to make money. That being said, he might not get approached as much as other guys, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. He can just chat up whoever he's interested in. In all my years visiting FKK / sauna clubs, I've only seen one group of guys unable to get laid. It was at Oase 5 years ago, and it was a group of slobby visitors from a country I'll just say is far away. They had missing teeth and they stunk badly from body odor.
[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2734941]No worries, your friend will get action. I've seen some extremely overweight guys at various clubs over the years, and they had no problem getting action. The girls aren't there to bang someone they fancy. They are there to make money. That being said, he might not get approached as much as other guys, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. He can just chat up whoever he's interested in. In all my years visiting FKK / sauna clubs, I've only seen one group of guys unable to get laid. It was at Oase 5 years ago, and it was a group of slobby visitors from a country I'll just say is far away. They had missing teeth and they stunk badly from body odor.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply! I know that's on his mind because he's asked me questions like "can I have a shirt on under my robe" LOL. I don't believe he's extremely overweight, but at the same time I understand how some people can have low self-esteem. I just tell him it's my first time and to enjoy the trip. We honestly don't know if we'll ever have a chance to be back, so let make the most out of it.
[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2734941] They had missing teeth and they stunk badly from body odor.[/QUOTE]Was that during FRUIT LOGISTICA messe?
Something I was reading on the Sharks forum was about tipping. It seems like tipping is never a good idea. Is tipping frowned upon at Artemis? Should I not tip the lady a little extra if I liked the job she did? Does that create an issue for the other gentlemen who don't tip? I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but I didn't see anything on it.
I am visiting Berlin on business; my first visit to an FKK was Artemis the Friday before last.
Arrived at about 20:00; there were maybe 10-15 women and an equal number of men, all hanging around the bar, everywhere else was empty.
Up until maybe 22:00 had to approach the women, they weren't really approaching the men at all.
After about 23:00 things picked up a bit; more women hanging around (and also more men), but started getting women trying to catch my eye rather than the other way around.
But I had already gone up to the rooms with 3 different women (all good times) so for me it was enough and time to go home.
Got the feeling it would have been better to arrive later, chill out more between sessions, and stay later in the evening. But who knows.
Now, I am leaving on Thursday and my question is, is it worth it to go again Wednesday evening? Are things pretty dead during the week, or just less busy than on the weekends?
[QUOTE=Yoan1983M;2737424]Something I was reading on the Sharks forum was about tipping. It seems like tipping is never a good idea. Is tipping frowned upon at Artemis? Should I not tip the lady a little extra if I liked the job she did? Does that create an issue for the other gentlemen who don't tip? I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but I didn't see anything on it.[/QUOTE]Of course, I am new to this, but my uneducated opinion is it unnecessary to tip directly; if you would like to show your appreciation in a financial way, you can do so indirectly by paying for "extras" that you don't really want, or by paying for more time than you really need. But I'm sure the ladies would appreciate a direct tip if you want.
[QUOTE=Yoan1983M;2737424]Something I was reading on the Sharks forum was about tipping. It seems like tipping is never a good idea. Is tipping frowned upon at Artemis? Should I not tip the lady a little extra if I liked the job she did? Does that create an issue for the other gentlemen who don't tip? I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but I didn't see anything on it.[/QUOTE]Tipping is a bad idea unless you have plenty of money and want to go with the same girl again and want to tip her again.
I recently visited on Friday around 20:00. The last time I was at Artemis was around 4 years ago, and not too much changed. The activity in this place is still very concentrated around the smoke-filled lounge area near the bar with a around 3:1 ratio of women to men. Maybe 12 women available to 36 men. On the Saturday, a few of the women were occupied partying in the back of the lounge with some guys.
I roamed around and relaxed for about an hour or so and then a 6 foot tall Romanian girl with fake the-size tits and approached me wearing high heels, towering above me and said in a commanding ***** tone, "hey Ching Chong, let's go now. " That's rude (understandable though, I am Asian), but I shrugged and went ahead to the room. In the room, the sex was actually one of the weirdest, must unique experiences in all my years going to these places. She seemed over the top horny and enthusiastic (still in a bitchy commanding way) BBBJ with deep throating. Then rode with a condom. She was bossy, ordering me to slap her on the ass and grab her tits and put my hands around her neck, and this and that. After awhile on top, she had moment where she seized up and her eyes rolled, like her brain had exploded and I could feel her pussy clenching and the warmth of pussy juices around my dick. She suddenly stopped, she sighed, actually smiled and said sweetly "Maybe I must pay YOU now? HAHA". After that she was very sweet and we kept going for another 20 minutes. After when I went to get my money I realized I hadn't negotiated but decided to give her a 100 EUR.
Before leaving I decided to approach a German girl who was laying down and she said she was just relaxing and not accepting customers at the moment. Too bad, she was the only other girl to my taste in the place.
I noticed some sort of drama happening near the Geldautomaten (ATMs), between a girl and a guy. I didn't catch what exactly it was about, but she was standing there looking angry with her arms folded and was demanding in English to see his camera. He looked morose and apologetic. Then staff got involved and it looks like he was forced to leave LOL. Maybe she caught him trying to snap a pic of her, haha.
[QUOTE=GNUdity;2738541]I roamed around and relaxed for about an hour or so and then a 6 foot tall Romanian girl with fake the-size tits and approached me wearing high heels, towering above me and said in a commanding ***** tone, "hey Ching Chong, let's go now. " That's rude (understandable though, I am Asian), but I shrugged and went ahead to the room.[/QUOTE]Many of those eastern European tutes have no "political correctness" about themselves whatsoever. Some of the stuff I have heard from them! This example is pretty bad if you ask me. Sounds like she likes it rough. I would have been all up in her funky "Romanian salad" (asshole) as payback. Damn straight! We're talking "grudge butt fuck" LOL! But maybe you didn't want to pay for such an expensive extra haha!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2738668]Many of those eastern European tutes have no "political correctness" about themselves whatsoever. Some of the stuff I have heard from them! This example is pretty bad if you ask me. Sounds like she likes it rough. I would have been all up in her funky "Romanian salad" (asshole) as payback. Damn straight! We're talking "grudge butt fuck" LOL! But maybe you didn't want to pay for such an expensive extra haha![/QUOTE]That is why they are there and their countries never developed and never will be developed nation, but he had good session in the room so that is all it matter LOL! I am surprise he went with her as that could have been risky bad session LOL!!
I always found FKK staffs, girls, management and clients to be very nice, friendly and polite actually, but only one time at palace I had to tell a guy off as he just came up to me and said "time!" and I told him say "fucking please at least" then he said "I said please" and I told him "fucking say it again!" then he said "please" so I told him the time, and he actually was asian LOL! Well, now that I come to think about it, he just did not speak english? LOL bur sounded fucking rude at the time!
Only bad experience I had was ok session once in oase as I told you and other time when I cancelled the session as soon as I walked into room and saw her not good enough face which was my fault kind of or her faces fault? LOL!
All other time, FKK has been kind, multi cultural, international and friendly place so far, but if that kind of occasion occur, then I will say something hurtful back or if she is hot, then I would also go and there will be good hardcore session in the room by me to punish her hardcore sexually LOL!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2738668]Many of those eastern European tutes have no "political correctness" about themselves whatsoever. Some of the stuff I have heard from them! This example is pretty bad if you ask me. Sounds like she likes it rough. I would have been all up in her funky "Romanian salad" (asshole) as payback. Damn straight! We're talking "grudge butt fuck" LOL! But maybe you didn't want to pay for such an expensive extra haha![/QUOTE]How common is it that a girl lets you toss her salad? And if she does it that part of the "basic" package or is that extra you have to pay? I would imagine it varies by girl, but again I only ask because it will be my first time going and I don't want to be taken advantage.
As I mentioned on title, I'll be visiting Berlin at the middle of September during a business trip. I'm from Asia and I fell a little bit nervous (now I'm fat maybe (175 cm /90 kg)).
I learned that this kind of thing is legal in Germany so I wanted to try it. For a novice, should the first attempt go to the FKK club or a bordell?
And also of the three days on the weekend (Fri, Sar, Sun), which day is better to go?
Are the girls kind? I saw previous reports that girls were rude to Asians and worry about it.
I've been reading all the info you lads have reported here, and I appreciate them all. I think you are all helpful and kindly.
I would be grateful if you could answer me. (maybe go together? I also want to make friends).
As I mentioned on title, I'll be visiting Berlin at the middle of September during a business trip. I come from Aisa and a little fat (maybe 175 cm /90 kg).
I learned that this kind of thing is legal in Germany so wanted to try it. For a novice, should I try the FKK club or a bordell first?
For the three days of the weekend (Fri, Sar, Sun), which day is better to go?
Are the girl kindly? I've seen a report in the past that girls are rude to Asians. I'm a little worried and nervous about that.
I've been reading all the info you lads have reported here, and I appreciate them all. I think you are all helpful and kindly.
I would be grateful if you could answer me. (Maybe go to FKK club together? I also want to make friends).
Thank you all.
[QUOTE=GNUdity;2738541]I roamed around and relaxed for about an hour or so and then a 6 foot tall Romanian girl with fake the-size tits and approached me wearing high heels, towering above me and said in a commanding ***** tone, "hey Ching Chong, let's go now. " That's rude (understandable though, I am Asian), but I shrugged and went ahead to the room. In the room, the sex was actually one of the weirdest, must unique experiences in all my years going to these places. She seemed over the top horny and enthusiastic (still in a bitchy commanding way) BBBJ with deep throating. Then rode with a condom. She was bossy, ordering me to slap her on the ass and grab her tits and put my hands around her neck, and this and that. After awhile on top, she had moment where she seized up and her eyes rolled, like her brain had exploded and I could feel her pussy clenching and the warmth of pussy juices around my dick. She suddenly stopped, she sighed, actually smiled and said sweetly "Maybe I must pay YOU now? HAHA". After that she was very sweet and we kept going for another 20 minutes. After when I went to get my money I realized I hadn't negotiated but decided to give her a 100 EUR.[/QUOTE]Are girls generally rude to Asians? Would it be awkward for a newbie to go there?
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2723675]My recent trip was on a Wednesday (lingerie day), which also happened to be BBQ day. This time I took the FEX (Flughafen Express?) from underneath * 1&2 at Brandenburg to Central station and then changed platform for S41/42 ringbahn to Westkreuz. All nicely signposted.
I arrived early enough for there still to be really tasty omelette left for breakfast. It was 38 see, so didn't bother going outside as I assumed there would be no one out there. There is now a mouthwash dispenser with small cups by the changing room sink, which I think is really useful.
After maybe an hour of chilling in the lounge with hardly any girls around, I decided to go for a walk and discovered that 10 of them were outside sunbathing naked by the pool. It was a fun atmosphere with music and BBQ food eventually being served. Around 20 other men by the pool were just staring at the hottest girls, one guy even ordered champagne for them. But no one seemed to be interested in fucking. The hottest girl there caught me staring at her naked but I didn't fancy approaching her in front of 20 other guys watching. I ate some BBQ beef, chicken and chips by the pool and eventually went inside for a session with a girl I've been with before..[/QUOTE]Is DFK not available at FKK's or does it need to be negotiated or is it a ymmv situation.
[QUOTE=Yoan1983M;2738778]How common is it that a girl lets you toss her salad? And if she does it that part of the "basic" package or is that extra you have to pay? I would imagine it varies by girl, but again I only ask because it will be my first time going and I don't want to be taken advantage.[/QUOTE]You have to got to be very lucky if you could get anal without paying extra. This is not just in Germany but almost anywhere in the world.
Generally speaking, depending on your size (will not hurt them) many FKK girls will do anal if you pay them extra. That is at least the information that I have got from many visitors. The question is how much will they charge you, especially if they could see that you are so desperate and easy target for up-selling. Avoid to pay extra for more than EUR50 or half hour rate for anal.
[QUOTE=Yoan1983M;2737424]Something I was reading on the Sharks forum was about tipping. It seems like tipping is never a good idea. Is tipping frowned upon at Artemis? Should I not tip the lady a little extra if I liked the job she did? Does that create an issue for the other gentlemen who don't tip? I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but I didn't see anything on it.[/QUOTE]
Fkk is not a night club with rip off ladies drinks, Tipping is not a norm in FKK, so it has never been a good idea in the FKK. Keep in mind this is business where you get the service you have paid. If you want to help the girl because you like the way they treat you, pay them the second booking or extend your booking, pay for extra services rather than giving them a tip. If you think they will improve their service by giving them a tip say EUR20, than you are wrong especially if they know that you are not regular visitors.
[QUOTE=Adindas;2739628]You have to got to be very lucky if you could get anal without paying extra. This is not just in Germany but almost anywhere in the world.
Generally speaking, depending on your size (will not hurt them) many FKK girls will do anal if you pay them extra. That is at least the information that I have got from many visitors. The question is how much will they charge you, especially if they could see that you are so desperate and easy target for up-selling. Avoid to pay extra for more than EUR50 for anal.[/QUOTE]Standard anal price in Artemis (indeed in most FKKs) is 100 extra.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2739630]Standard anal price in Artemis (indeed in most FKKs) is 100 extra.[/QUOTE]Can be less expensive in NRW.
[QUOTE=Zzzzpg1335;2739540]As I mentioned on title, I'll be visiting Berlin at the middle of September during a business trip. I come from Aisa and a little fat (maybe 175 cm /90 kg).
I learned that this kind of thing is legal in Germany so wanted to try it. For a novice, should I try the FKK club or a bordell first?
For the three days of the weekend (Fri, Sar, Sun), which day is better to go?
Are the girl kindly? I've seen a report in the past that girls are rude to Asians. I'm a little worried and nervous about that.
I've been reading all the info you lads have reported here, and I appreciate them all. I think you are all helpful and kindly..[/QUOTE]I think you should go to FKK first if you have the chance. On Fridays and Saturdays there are normally more girls present than Sundays but also more guests, so it's up to you really.
You don't need to be worried about the girls being rude, my experience is the opposite that they gladly go with Asian guys because in general they tend to have smaller penises.
A word of advice, always have a Q&A with the girl of your choice before heading to the room so you don't feel fooled when you are in the room about prices and services. For example if I haven't been with a girl before I never promise her an hour or more, I usually tell her let's see how well we go on and if we have any kind of sexual chemistry then I will extend time from half an hour to more since I enjoy being less stressed and taking my time with the girl.
You should know that you can leave the club and come back later for free if you want to go out for dinner / have an appointment or whatever, you just need to speak with the madam at the entrance and she will write down your locker number.
Have fun!
[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2739660]I think you should go to FKK first if you have the chance. On Fridays and Saturdays there are normally more girls present than Sundays but also more guests, so it's up to you really.
You don't need to be worried about the girls being rude, my experience is the opposite that they gladly go with Asian guys because in general they tend to have smaller penises.
A word of advice, always have a Q&A with the girl of your choice before heading to the room so you don't feel fooled when you are in the room about prices and services. For example if I haven't been with a girl before I never promise her an hour or more, I usually tell her let's see how well we go on and if we have any kind of sexual chemistry then I will extend time from half an hour to more since I enjoy being less stressed and taking my time with the girl.
You should know that you can leave the club and come back later for free if you want to go out for dinner / have an appointment or whatever, you just need to speak with the madam at the entrance and she will write down your locker number.
Have fun![/QUOTE]Def agree with TB. You can go to a brothel pretty much anywhere in the world. But there is only one place for FKK (well including Switzerland and Austria ti be fair). And FKK is not to be missed. Must be done by any red blooded man.
For all the whining in here, step back for a second. FKK is amazing. Nothing like it elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2739750]For all the whining in here, step back for a second. FKK is amazing. Nothing like it elsewhere.[/QUOTE]The termas of Rio de Janeiro operate on the same model. I don't know if the German FKK came first or if the Brazilian terma was first but doesn't matter. Both need to be experienced!
[QUOTE=Yoan1983M;2738778]How common is it that a girl lets you toss her salad? And if she does it that part of the "basic" package or is that extra you have to pay? I would imagine it varies by girl, but again I only ask because it will be my first time going and I don't want to be taken advantage.[/QUOTE]Hi everyone, 'tossing salad' is analingus, not anal penetration (unless you have quite the tongue). I've done this a few times in the past and the girl just let me do my thing if she was into it at no additional charge. Others are pretty clear it's a no go zone. So as always, ask before and you will find out if it is possible.
[QUOTE=TeddyBears;2739660]I think you should go to FKK first if you have the chance. On Fridays and Saturdays there are normally more girls present than Sundays but also more guests, so it's up to you really.
You don't need to be worried about the girls being rude, my experience is the opposite that they gladly go with Asian guys because in general they tend to have smaller penises.
Have fun![/QUOTE]Thanks for your guide, I going to have try maybe next weekend.
After that I will report and we can talk more.
Anayway, Thanks for kindly people.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=GNUdity;2738541]Before leaving I decided to approach a German girl who was laying down and she said she was just relaxing and not accepting customers at the moment. Too bad, she was the only other girl to my taste in the place.[/QUOTE]She lied to you. If she wanted to relax, she would go in an other place. When they are visible, they are in operation.
The things is: they still can select who can penetrate them (like with women in the normal life).
I went to Artemis yesterday. There were about 10 girls / 20 guys at noon and 20 girls /30 guys at night. It was a mind blowing experience for a first timer. I would be spending all my money here if I lived here. Going again this weekend. If any of you are going let me know. It gets boring without my phone. Tech withdrawal is real my friend.
[QUOTE=FawksGuy818;2741071]I went to Artemis yesterday. There were about 10 girls / 20 guys at noon and 20 girls /30 guys at night. It was a mind blowing experience for a first timer. I would be spending all my money here if I lived here. Going again this weekend. If any of you are going let me know. It gets boring without my phone. Tech withdrawal is real my friend.[/QUOTE]Homie, if you even counting the guys, then report a bit more about the guys. How do they look like? Age range? Fit bodies? Could you steel the horses with? From which gang, north-wedding?
The four legged bandit is your phone in Club house!
However, thanks for the information.
[QUOTE=HDN2015;2740556]She lied to you. If she wanted to relax, she would go in an other place. When they are visible, they are in operation.
The things is: they still can select who can penetrate them (like with women in the normal life).[/QUOTE]I am still crying for all the "No No's" I fished.
Sometimes you say "No" in the wrong moment, sometimes you catch a "No" in the right moment.
But A is still open! Still open!
[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2741208]Homie, if you even counting the guys, then report a bit more about the guys. How do they look like? Age range? Fit bodies? Could you steel the horses with? From which gang, north-wedding?
The four legged bandit is your phone in Club house!
However, thanks for the information.[/QUOTE]LOL what. Did not think anyone will care about the guys. I was counting the guys to give an idea of the ratio. There were guys from all ages, ethnicities, color, body shape and sizes. Ranging from model to old fat hairy. There were guys who came by themselves to group of friends.
Perhaps I went on the wrong nights or the wrong time.
This was my first FKK experience and it was a disappointment 2 nights in a row.
Thursday 11 PM.
At the desk I was told 90 to get in and every girl was starting at 70 and 10 per drink chip. Paid the fee got a few drink chips got the robe band and watch and went to see what it was all about.
As soon as I got out the locker room, I passed allot of guys in the spiral staircase and went to the main room with the bar. (at this time I had no idea why the staircase was filled with men leaning over the railing and looking up). I enter the main room and its a sausage fest, about 6 guys to every girl and the girls were not to my liking. I like my women young, in shape, and natural, what I saw was mostly old looking women (maybe its all the cigarettes they smoke), women with oversized fake tits that were so terribly done the waves of the sac is visible or the implant is too high and the natural tits sagged too low, one very skinny girl tits was so bag they looked like 2 deflated balloons pinned to a wall. Some were trashy looking with lots of tattoos, one of the girls even looked like she was 5 months pregnant she mainly stood on the left side by the door to come in. I sat down at the bar and got a drink and tried talking to one girl, she brushed me off said she's busy then proceeds to turn her back to me and sit there doing nothing. I moved over to wall by the couches as some girl started dancing to Down With the Sickness on the stripper pole so I wanted to watch. A bigger girl came to watch too and said something to me in Spanish (I hardly speak it but I understand little of it) So I replied back to her in Spanish saying I don't speak Spanish so she starts laughing and we had a quick chat. She said she was from Cali, Colombia and we talked for a bit but I was not interested, as someone who goes to Colombia often I did not fly to Berlin to fuck a Colombiana especially when I don't fuck girls her size when I'm in Colombia. Passed it up and saw a perfect one, blonde with perky natural tits, she refused to make eye contact with me so I walked over and tried to talk to her, she instantly said "get another girl, I'm busy" then proceeds to walk back to the where the stripper pole is and sits on the couch by the door leading to the buffet room, and she sat there doing nothing. Started talking to another girl that looked like a Bratz Doll, straight jet black hair natural perky tits with pierced nipples but her lip injections made her look like a duck. She was just standing by the bar and as soon as I said "Hi" she just said "I'm busy" and walked away. At this point I'm starting to think its either me or these girls are rude as fuck! I sat down, and another girl kept making eye contact with me so I waved her over and we began to talk. She said she was from Turkey, big tits but a little saggy, wasn't my thing but she was all natural and I didn't see any tattoos so I started to negotiate. She wanted 90 for BBBJ and sex, at this point I didn't care because my head was spinning from all the cigarette smoke and I couldn't stand the smell, an extra 20 for BBBJ I didn't mind. We exit the main area, and those guys were still hanging out at the railing by the stairs. This is when I learned what was up those stairs, about 20 rooms but only 2 keys were on the wall for vacancy. Sex was boring, lame BJ, no deep throat just sucking on only the head then she jumps on for 5 minutes where she was breathing in my face and her breath stunk like an ashtray. I decide to switch her around so I don't have to smell her breath, switch to doggie and I can smell the smoke smell in her hair, she starts yelling "cum for me baby, cum for me" very annoying as its the "papi leche" the chicas do in DR. Then there was a fishy smell that made me start going soft. I had to just force myself to finish paid her then left, the guys were still by the staircase.
Friday 12 AM.
It was even worse. I walked in and passed a bunch of guys by the hand railing about 10 of them, again and couldn't understand why. Proceeded in the bar area and I repeatedly saw the same girls who told me no, tell other guys "I'm busy" or "get other girl" then they proceed to go sit on the couch and do nothing. So seeing this, it was not just a "me" thing, it looks like they were only interested in really old men or Asian men. The girls were basically the same ones from Thursday, all a disappointment for what I like. There were about 10 girls and about 70 men. SMH. I almost dropped my drink when this woman walked by who looked like a body builder with big fake tits as I thought it was a man at first. Then there was very skinny girl with diamond tattooed between her tits sitting on the couch, first she was was yelling what sounds like "prostate massage" but I could be mistaken then she started making sex noises, with all the smoke smells I was feeling lightheaded so went to see what was downstairs and get fresh air. Nothing down there but bunch of old men twice or three times my age walking around naked. I went right back upstairs with the quickness and the guys were still at the railing looking up. So I decided to stick around and see what's up. There were 3 girls on the side playing a game with 2 guys, one of the girls had on green fishnet outfit some random guy walked by and tried to get one of the girls and I just overheard the girl say she's busy then she went back to play the game. I saw a girl come downstairs I never saw before, all natural and just what I wanted, she went with the guy to get money from the small locker to pay her and as soon as she reentered the stair area one of the guys that was standing out in the stairway since I arrived approached her and took her upstairs, she never had a chance to go back in the main room where the bar is. I stood there and watched this happen over and over again with different girls I have never seen in the main area, and this is where I understood why all the guys were waiting at the railing. As soon a girl came downstairs they snatch them up and the leftovers end up in the Bar / Smoking area. Seeing this, it was so frustrating as these guys was just picking off all the good girls as they came downstairs. I just called it a night and left as its not worth it to me, maybe someone else like this type of pussy sniping by the railing but not me.
So far I'm not impressed at all.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2741920]Perhaps I went on the wrong nights or the wrong time. This was my first FKK experience and it was a disappointment 2 nights in a row. So far I'm not impressed at all.[/QUOTE]Look man, the P4 P scene suffered all over the world as a result of the pandemic. And the industry simply hasn't had enough time to recover yet. So, these days you can't expect to show up at an FKK believing that the experience will be good (for one thing "supply" is still messed up just like in other industries). I mean, haven't you been reading all of the other reports? Both optics and service are down. [B]Way down[/B]! I'll say what I have said many times before. Mongers need to give things time to correct themselves and get back to something that looks like "normal". Anyone who writes off the FKKs based on what they've seen this summer, or based on what they see this fall, is making a grave error! I would say that we've got to wait at least until summer 2023. Then we shall see. In the meantime, mongers need to be adjusting their expectations [B]downward[/B] and not act like the way it is now is the way that it was then, or the way that it always will be in the future. This is true for mongering destinations all over the world. Have some perspective and [B]patience[/B]. I for one remain on the sidelines waiting to see the improvements that will convince me to return. Not wasting my time and money going to Germany to monger at this time.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2741920]Perhaps I went on the wrong nights or the wrong time.
This was my first FKK experience and it was a disappointment 2 nights in a row.
So far I'm not impressed at all.[/QUOTE]Yeah, this place hasn't changed. I have ended up in Berlin due to business travels over years and visited Artemis here and there and it's been like that for years. Ratio of men to women is uncomfortably high, and the overall number and variety of girls is low. The main area is tight with limited seating, totally filled with smoke. Lately on my visits, I have not seen the downstairs bar open, so there isn't much reason for girls to hang out downstairs either, they all stay in the main area. So, it's only natural that guys will camp out by the stairs and watch the girls go by from that position.
The best layout I've seen in FKK Sharks in Darmstadt where it's much more spread out and more comfortable, more fresh air, and way more variety of girls too. Heck, it even costs less for entry.
As you observed, the area of the spiral stair is a junction, this the best place to see the in & out movements.
About the ratio male / female, IMHO this is a translation of the capitalisic equation: demand / supply.
As long as the demand will be high, we will find out prostitutes who will tell us they are busy (they make their selection) .
I appreciated that Art back in the days, since the covid, I relocated my activities in Barcelona.
I waiting for the collapse of German industrial economy due to the shortage of gas supply, when this moment will happen, I think price will decrease in Art, and the nice German beauties will replace East European.
[QUOTE=HDN2015;2742362]As you observed, the area of the spiral stair is a junction, this the best place to see the in & out movements.
About the ratio male / female, IMHO this is a translation of the capitalisic equation: demand / supply.
As long as the demand will be high, we will find out prostitutes who will tell us they are busy (they make their selection) .
I appreciated that Art back in the days, since the covid, I relocated my activities in Barcelona.
I waiting for the collapse of German industrial economy due to the shortage of gas supply, when this moment will happen, I think price will decrease in Art, and the nice German beauties will replace East European.[/QUOTE]
My Wish as well.
By the way have you seen this German Beauty, the new in Porn Industry "Dolly Dyson". Read hair (Bottled), Age:23 Height: 176 cm (5 ft 9 in) . She has played in hardcore porn scenes
Generally Speaking most (if not all) of pornstars are available for booking. The question is only how much they will be charging, especially if they know you are so desperate and they are not into this scene without a huge incentive.
From information I have got, they could be booked from their social networking sites or if it is not working via their agents.
In the past, Erlebniswohnung, Insomnia sometimes sometimes have German beauties in the parties. Unfortunately it seems to have gone by now.
But they sometimes also go to swingers party such as KitKat. But you will need to lucky. To be fit and athletics, very good looking and reasonably will increase your chance.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2741920]Perhaps I went on the wrong nights or the wrong time.
This was my first FKK experience and it was a disappointment 2 nights in a row.
Thursday 11 PM.
At the desk I was told 90 to get in and every girl was starting at 70 and 10 per drink chip. Paid the fee got a few drink chips got the robe band and watch and went to see what it was all about.
As soon as I got out the locker room, I passed allot of guys in the spiral staircase and went to the main room with the bar. (at this time I had no idea why the staircase was filled with men leaning over the railing and looking up). I enter the main room and its a sausage fest, about 6 guys to every girl and the girls were not to my liking. I like my women young, in shape, and natural, what I saw was mostly old looking women (maybe its all the cigarettes they smoke), women with oversized fake tits that were so terribly done the waves of the sac is visible or the implant is too high and the natural tits sagged too low, one very skinny girl tits was so bag they looked like 2 deflated balloons pinned to a wall..[/QUOTE]I'll be in Berlin next week, and I have to say this is the most disappointing review I've read on here. I don't have high expectations, but I don't want to be chasing girls or get rejected. If I wanted that I would go to a bar. I'm also going on Saturday, so I hope weekends are a little better.
[QUOTE=Yoan1983M;2743152]I'll be in Berlin next week, and I have to say this is the most disappointing review I've read on here. I don't have high expectations, but I don't want to be chasing girls or get rejected. If I wanted that I would go to a bar. I'm also going on Saturday, so I hope weekends are a little better.[/QUOTE]We all have different tastes. I don't know how often I've read about two guys rating the same girl on opposite ends of the "attractive scale". Go enjoy. If you don't see a 10, take a 6 and have sex and then take another one. You are not going to find a area with 20 stunning porn actresses, but on the whole, it's a lot better than sitting on an airplane watching a bunch of overweight people try and buckle their seat belts. If you only want stunning models, then open a porn sight like Herge or something and "take matters into your own hands".
Among local mongers in Berlin there is a derogatory term: Rumbul. It means girls from Romania or Bulgaria, who are mostly pimped out on escort websites for cheap 90 Euro per hour outcall gigs. The other day I visited Artemis and ran into a girl from Bul by the name of Katharina. I had been in the room with her before, again I had an excellent session: She is slim, attractive, wonderful breasts, very good service. She usually is wearing some very sexy string lingerie. She is a bit of an exception in Artemis where most providers nowadays are quite artificial.
I was in Berlin for a couple of days and went to Artemis on Friday night at 10 am. Very easily connected by metro or taxi. As soon as you go through the parking lot in front you find a door and enter. There is reception where you pay 90 E and get a red band tied by which you can enter the club till 5 am. You are also given a electronic key on watch like band and a bath robe. As soon as you enter to the left there are small safes where use your electronic key of the number locker you open and keep your valuables and further enter you see larger lockers where you remove your clothes and shoes and keep them. Don't worry about being naked no one cares. You can go and take open shower and a piss. Wear sandals given and enter the club. As soon as you enter there is the smoking area with a bar. All non alcoholic drinks are free while alcoholic drink cost 10 E and you have to get the plastic cards for these at reception after giving the money. If cards are left over you can exchange back for the money when you leave. All the girls hangout here. And further inside is the pole dance area where once a hour a 10 min show occurs. And further inside the buffet area. You can go down the stairs which is the non smoking area where there is a jacuzzi, bar, steam, sauna, massage tables, porn watching screen, fitness Center. This is just to relax and lie down. There were some guys relaxing and no girls. After coming to the smoking zone the stairs continue up to another floor where the girls take you to private room to have sex.
After going to the smoking zone I saw around 15 girls and maybe 30 guys. Most girls were tall with silicone boobs and pumped up lips. Many were just lazing around with their group and having some free drinks and were least interested. I sat down for some time and started observing the girls. Some would come and talk to you about taking them back to the room. I saw a dark haired girl who was good looking with natural small tits and approached her. She quoted 70 E for sex with CBJ and extra for BBBJ, DATY. Her name was Emily from Bulgaria. Took her to the room on first floor which had mirrors and she gave a BBBJ, allowed me to penetrate her with fingers with a condom, no DFK and had than sex with a condom. After cumming she took me down to small safe where I paid 90 E. Afterwards went and had a shower and went back to smoking area. Had a beer watched some strip shows. I don't smoke so the smoke was very irritating. I wanted a couple of good looking German girls but their attitude put me off. Chatted with some. Saw a medium height dark haired girl with good face and medium silicone boobs with whom I chatted up. Her name was Shananya from Romania. Asked 70 E for CBJ, DATY, Fingering without penetration. Took her and went to another room. Room was cold. She kissed me all over made me hard and gave CBJ and allowed me full DATY. Nice pussy with no smell. And rode her in multiple positions with cover but couldn't come for a long time as I was spent many time last few days. So asked her to remove a condom and give a tight hand job and I came after some time. After which the same routine of payment and washed myself and changed my clothes and returned the key and left at 3 am.
The good things about the club was it's a good place to spend a lot of time from 12 noon to 5 am, see the girls in real time and approach them, free food and non alcoholic drinks, non judgmental staff who were thoroughly professional.
Cons were smoking area where the girls hang out is very irritating if you don't smoke, most girls are pumped up with silicone, can't chat with them for a long time as there aim is to take you and make you cum and get money, and after action they may demand more money.
I went to Artemis 8 days ago.
I arrived like 13.30, paid the 90 for the entrance and received the band, another rfid wristband and a wine color bathrobe. I mention the color because I suspect the color they chose for you is related to your nationality or something.
So inside its a big place there is a room with lockers, bath and showers, you can leave your stuff in the locker assigned to you, it can be opened only with the rfidwristband.
Since the entrance a grl was close to the reception and she took me to show all the club and she tried to take me upstairs to get a service, she got really mad when I say to her that I didn't want to go there (yet) she insisted and I said: the thing is that I don't want to be with you, so she got more angry and left. She was of the type of a tall girl medium, fake big tits and maybe fake big ass. I didn't accepted because its not my type at all and because I didn't yet see the others; anyway her fake ass was atractive and she catched me many times watching it.
After that I went to the bar, In there you will find the bigest quantity of girls, I entered with some shame and discretely because it looked (firstly) like a place to see and pick someone. At that moment there were like 10-15 girls there, more than the 80% with fake boobs and lips, but with good shape in general. I was looking for someone super white with beatiful eyes normal tits and ass and not so heavy but didn't find someone at that time.
Then I went outside of the bar and feeling that you can't be in the bar if you are not drinking or picking a girl, honestly I don't drink nothing more than wine, so I left.
In the corridor and the stairs, a lot of girls aproached me, some of them kind and others like pushing a lot to pick her to go upstairs. Because the day is starting they chase you a lot and its a little bit unconfortable. The clasic chat is there is your name, my name where are you from where I am and if you want to go upstairs if not when and why. What I learn from this is that if you say later they will push you again very soon if you say I don't want to be with you then she will not bother again but she will get a little bit upset.
So I went downstairs and there you can find the pool, the gym, the private jacuzzi, the sauna, the porn cinema (a very poor projector with less thant 70 inch screen and 3 rows of seats) and an exit to the solarium and the restaurant.
I decided to slow down a little bit and went outside to the solarium and the outside pool, there in the pool there is a free soda machine, and I was looking for the restaurant, seems that it is a door without any indication in the way thru. So after asking I noticed the entrance to the restaurant, I went there and took something for breakfast, the menu was ham, salami, cheese, cereal, milk, juice, eggs, pathe coffee and other stuff. When I was there 2 wrechks were there taking breakfast it was a good place to see them with clarity and how they act.
After that I went againt to the bar to check if someone new arrived I spent like 1. 5 hours watching, and yes there were like 4 more, but again nothing super special so I asked for a free soda there and stayed sit just watching and hunting. There you notice that there are girl groups, some in the entrance, some in the midle, girls alone behind the serving bar, and girls alone deep in the bar. Also I noticed the end of the bar is connected with the restaurant.
Agaain nothing special so I decided to go downstairs to the pool and rest, downstairs laying close to the pool its where I find more peace of getting pressed to pic someone 2 fuck, anyway there were like 5 girls who went there to ask for it, at that time I got expert on kick them politely. I am gathering forces, I am a little bit tired, Maybe later please.
So, in order to don't do my experience super long I went upstairs to the bar and started to look for someone 2 F I was looking for a Czech girl who offered me OwoC and 2 times cum for 90 e, She was in a table with another guy but I just made a signal to her that I was super ready. She come, we did a recap of the services and 2 times cum changed into one, so I said her you offered me 2 in that half so I skiped.
So I continued looking in the bar and found some other girl from Bulgary with a big ass and tits and supernatural 0 botox face. I agreed with her OwoC and 1 time cum for 90. Accepted and finally went uptstairs, she was kind, the oral was good and without also natural like an oral you get from a girlfriend not so porn, so good overall, I asked her to start to ride and moved my body to make point her ass to the mirror and the view at the end was far. Then I asked her my favorite: kind of doggy style with the belly touching completely the bed so I drilled her with power and feel her pussy getting warm and she asked me to come so I did it. It was very good, a little bit quick but I understanded they need to make money and the top earning time seems like it was starting for the grls.
17:00 pm I went to the restaurant for eat at that time they serve the afternoom meal, a lot of girls there eating, you can see the groups and you can see how some grls hate others its evident seems like a lot of competition going there. The food was buffet with 2 different dishes and some sides from the breakfast nothing spectacular or super fancy but with good taste, some soup and basically only that.
After lunch I went to the pool to wait a little bit for making a final last F, and also to wait for more girls to arrive. After some time I went back again to the bar and I saw a black girl with a natural spectacular and perfect ass. I talked to her and arranged everything, again it was OwoC and normal fuck for 90 e, all was good good oral and nice doggy style with that perfect jlo ass I rided some time and asked to change position but she suggested kepping it like this. After the sex we talked a lot I tell to her some parts of my life and she enjoyed listening, she was from Jamaica. I thing if I go back I will try to look for her.
In General all good, but nothing spectacular, a little bit anoying the pressure for go to fuck quickly and a lot of times by the girls but its reasonable they are there for the money. The food 8. 0 (not so many options), installations 8. 5 (cons super dirty wash bashin sink, poor xxx cinema projector), girls with super fake body few above 9. 0, maybe only 1 Iwillmarrythisgirl.
General experience 9. 0, I will try again.
[QUOTE=MuscleHetero;2747044]I was in Berlin for a couple of days and went to Artemis on Friday night at 10 am. Very easily connected by metro or taxi. As soon as you go through the parking lot in front you find a door and enter. There is reception where you pay 90 E and get a red band tied by which you can enter the club till 5 am. You are also given a electronic key on watch like band and a bath robe. As soon as you enter to the left there are small safes where use your electronic key of the number locker you open and keep your valuables and further enter you see larger lockers where you remove your clothes and shoes and keep them. Don't worry about being naked no one cares. You can go and take open shower and a piss. Wear sandals given and enter the club. As soon as you enter there is the smoking area with a bar. All non alcoholic drinks are free while alcoholic drink cost 10 E and you have to get the plastic cards for these at reception after giving the money. If cards are left over you can exchange back for the money when you leave. All the girls hangout here. And further inside is the pole dance area where once a hour a 10 min show occurs. And further inside the buffet area. You can go down the stairs which is the non smoking area where there is a jacuzzi, bar, steam, sauna, massage tables, porn watching screen, fitness Center. This is just to relax and lie down. There were some guys relaxing and no girls. After coming to the smoking zone the stairs continue up to another floor where the girls take you to private room to have sex.[/QUOTE]Thanks for a detailed report!
[QUOTE=JoakimG;2748823]I went to Artemis 8 days ago.
I arrived like 13.30, paid the 90 for the entrance and received the band, another rfid wristband and a wine color bathrobe. I mention the color because I suspect the color they chose for you is related to your nationality or something.
So inside its a big place there is a room with lockers, bath and showers, you can leave your stuff in the locker assigned to you, it can be opened only with the rfidwristband.
Since the entrance a grl was close to the reception and she took me to show all the club and she tried to take me upstairs to get a service, she got really mad when I say to her that I didn't want to go there (yet) she insisted and I said: the thing is that I don't want to be with you, so she got more angry and left. She was of the type of a tall girl medium, fake big tits and maybe fake big ass. I didn't accepted because its not my type at all and because I didn't yet see the others; anyway her fake ass was attractive and she catched me many times watching it.
After that I went to the bar, In there you will find the biggest quantity of girls, I entered with some shame and discretely because it looked (firstly) like a place to see and pick someone. At that moment there were like 10-15 girls there, more than the 80% with fake boobs and lips, but with good shape in general. I was looking for someone super white with beautiful eyes normal tits and ass and not so heavy but didn't find someone at that time.
Then I went outside of the bar and feeling that you can't be in the bar if you are not drinking or picking a girl, honestly I don't drink nothing more than wine, so I left.
In the corridor and the stairs, a lot of girls aproached me, some of them kind and others like pushing a lot to pick her to go upstairs. Because the day is starting they chase you a lot and its a little bit uncomfortable. The clasic chat is there is your name, my name where are you from where I am and if you want to go upstairs if not when and why. What I learn from this is that if you say later they will push you again very soon if you say I don't want to be with you then she will not bother again but she will get a little bit upset.
So I went downstairs and there you can find the pool, the gym, the private jacuzzi, the sauna, the porn cinema (a very poor projector with less thant 70 inch screen and 3 rows of seats) and an exit to the solarium and the restaurant.[/QUOTE]Great report JoakimG! Thank you.
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;2723675]My recent trip was on a Wednesday (lingerie day), which also happened to be BBQ day. This time I took the FEX (Flughafen Express?) from underneath * 1&2 at Brandenburg to Central station and then changed platform for S41/42 ringbahn to Westkreuz. All nicely signposted.
I arrived early enough for there still to be really tasty omelette left for breakfast. It was 38 see, so didn't bother going outside as I assumed there would be no one out there. There is now a mouthwash dispenser with small cups by the changing room sink, which I think is really useful.
After maybe an hour of chilling in the lounge with hardly any girls around, I decided to go for a walk and discovered that 10 of them were outside sunbathing naked by the pool. It was a fun atmosphere with music and BBQ food eventually being served. Around 20 other men by the pool were just staring at the hottest girls, one guy even ordered champagne for them. But no one seemed to be interested in fucking. The hottest girl there caught me staring at her naked but I didn't fancy approaching her in front of 20 other guys watching. I ate some BBQ beef, chicken and chips by the pool and eventually went inside for a session with a girl I've been with before.
Violetta (ROM) - Tall, really busty and curvy without being fat, black hair, facially 6/10. I knew from previous experience that she wouldn't rush and delivered a really nice and slow covered BJ to completion. First session is always a quick one, so I prefer not to rush it. 70.[/QUOTE]Just can't imagine how much cum you produce. LOL. Loved to read it full.
Let me preface this review by saying this might be a combination of my evolving preferences towards sugar dating over brothels / FKKs / etc as well as preferences in women. * Fake boobs / lips / asses hiding mediocre physiques do nothing for me and 90% of the women there had 2 of 3. I went to Artemis twice when I was in Berlin and neither time was great. * The first was for their 17th birthday party. * It was completely packed with dudes Friday night, at least a 5:1 ratio and you could barely find a seat. * There were maybe 3 women in there I would take back, and I settled on a forgettable session with someone whose name I have completely forgotten but claimed to be Moroccan / German. The best parts of the evening was the catering having a whole ox strung up and the cute brunette doing the strip shows who quickly brushed me off with "only dancing" when I approached her near the bar.
Second trip the following Thursday was a better environment at least and the ladies were wandering nude unlike the previous trip. * Fewer dudes, about the same number of women as Friday, but an unfortunately similar ratio of my type. The one stand out, Miriam, a tall scrawny but athletic Romanian with perky tits gave off ice queen vibes but I needed some optics more than anything. * I was right, no kissing on the body allowed, whined that she was tired when I asked her to switch to riding me (I did notice she was very busy), but she got the job done. Some time in the hot tub and sauna and I was done, I will say the facilities were nice, too bad about having to hang out in the smoke filled bar area to hunt for a lady.
Outside there was a young American dude yelling into his phone to one of his mates that he had found the greatest place on earth. * I'm happy for him. I think I'm done with Europe budget mongering (did Austria late last year too, equally mediocre). Either it isn't what it was pre-COVID or I've changed. * Scandallo was a hell of a lot of fun earlier this year and Brazil has tons of reasonably priced outcall escorts while Berlin / Prague look to be 100% fakes. I'm sticking to Brazil, sugaring or locales with solid escort populations (Looking at you London, Barcelona, Madrid).
Off to Prague before heading home, will see if anything there changes my mind.
[QUOTE=Tnttwo;2752604]Let me preface this review by saying this might be a combination of my evolving preferences towards sugar dating over brothels / FKKs / etc as well as preferences in women. * Fake boobs / lips / asses hiding mediocre physiques do nothing for me and 90% of the women there had 2 of 3. I went to Artemis twice when I was in Berlin and neither time was great. * The first was for their 17th birthday party. * It was completely packed with dudes Friday night, at least a 5:1 ratio and you could barely find a seat. * There were maybe 3 women in there I would take back, and I settled on a forgettable session with someone whose name I have completely forgotten but claimed to be Moroccan / German. The best parts of the evening was the catering having a whole ox strung up and the cute brunette doing the strip shows who quickly brushed me off with "only dancing" when I approached her near the bar.
Second trip the following Thursday was a better environment at least and the ladies were wandering nude unlike the previous trip. * Fewer dudes, about the same number of women as Friday, but an unfortunately similar ratio of my type. The one stand out, Miriam, a tall scrawny but athletic Romanian with perky tits gave off ice queen vibes but I needed some optics more than anything. * I was right, no kissing on the body allowed, whined that she was tired when I asked her to switch to riding me (I did notice she was very busy), but she got the job done. Some time in the hot tub and sauna and I was done, I will say the facilities were nice, too bad about having to hang out in the smoke filled bar area to hunt for a lady..[/QUOTE]Others will disagree but personally I wouldn't bother with London if I were you. The EE girls are very hit and miss and the English girls are a lot more expensive, as a general rule 'you get what you pay for'. I haven't seen a girl in London for a long time, I'd rather go the the expense of paying the costs to go to FKK land or the likes of Barcelona, Vienna etc than go through the hassle of seeing a girl in London. I'd be interested to hear what you think of Prague, it was my favourite destination back in the day of Prague Bunnies. If the K5 brothel is still there I'd be making sure to spend an evening there.
[QUOTE=Tnttwo;2752604]Let me preface this review by saying this might be a combination of my evolving preferences towards sugar dating over brothels / FKKs / etc as well as preferences in women. * Fake boobs / lips / asses hiding mediocre physiques do nothing for me and 90% of the women there had 2 of 3. I went to Artemis twice when I was in Berlin and neither time was great. * The first was for their 17th birthday party. * It was completely packed with dudes Friday night, at least a 5:1 ratio and you could barely find a seat. * There were maybe 3 women in there I would take back, and I settled on a forgettable session with someone whose name I have completely forgotten but claimed to be Moroccan / German. The best parts of the evening was the catering having a whole ox strung up and the cute brunette doing the strip shows who quickly brushed me off with "only dancing" when I approached her near the bar.
Second trip the following Thursday was a better environment at least and the ladies were wandering nude unlike the previous trip. * Fewer dudes, about the same number of women as Friday, but an unfortunately similar ratio of my type. The one stand out, Miriam, a tall scrawny but athletic Romanian with perky tits gave off ice queen vibes but I needed some optics more than anything. * I was right, no kissing on the body allowed, whined that she was tired when I asked her to switch to riding me (I did notice she was very busy), but she got the job done. Some time in the hot tub and sauna and I was done, I will say the facilities were nice, too bad about having to hang out in the smoke filled bar area to hunt for a lady..[/QUOTE]Apologies, forgot to thank you for your report. It's great when people submit comprehensive reports, be they good, bad or indifferent.
[QUOTE=Abox79;2752753]Others will disagree but personally I wouldn't bother with London if I were you. The EE girls are very hit and miss and the English girls are a lot more expensive, as a general rule 'you get what you pay for'. I haven't seen a girl in London for a long time, I'd rather go the the expense of paying the costs to go to FKK land or the likes of Barcelona, Vienna etc than go through the hassle of seeing a girl in London. I'd be interested to hear what you think of Prague, it was my favourite destination back in the day of Prague Bunnies. If the K5 brothel is still there I'd be making sure to spend an evening there.[/QUOTE]I think that is fair, my few Diva experiences have been good and mixing in with a $400+ top end GFE independent on a trip makes London attractive to me but see how that could go wrong. Comparing with FKKs is definitely apples to oranges and not everyone could swing that or just prefer the FKK experience.
Will post my Prague experience over in their forum. I know K5 is closed, I plan on hitting Showpark and getting a massage at Rabbit Hall. The escort scene looks to be a complete disaster and the privat scene is dead. Their local review boards don't even bother because literally every ad is fake.
First off let me apologize for not dropping my review a little earlier. I got back from a holiday through Europe and upon arriving back home I got sick (not covid). Now I went to Artemis back at the end of September on a Saturday night, and let me say I had such a good time. All the information you guys gave on here was very helpful, so I thank you for that. When I first arrived everything was exactly how I had pictured it, there was a naked lady standing in the entrance, and a few by the showers. I changed and showered and at first I just wanted to walk around the location and see everything firsthand. I went down to the pool area, and checked out the movie theater. There weren't any ladies downstairs but I did have time to just sit and relax for a few minutes. I wanted to hit the steam room but it was a bit crowded.
The bar area:
I finally went upstairs to the bar area and this is where all the action was going on. I would say there was about 30 girls and about 60 guys, maybe a little less guys. I ordered a club soda at the bar, and took a seat to watch how things go down here. It didn't take long for a lady to approach me, and she was a Bulgarian with an attitude. I can't remember her name but she was a brunette who right away quoted me $100. When I asked what was included she said "sex with condom, and OWC". She was very demanding to the point where she said "it's now or never", which I told her "no, thank you". When this happened I thought I had screwed myself because all this happened where there was a few ladies, which I thought no way will they approach me now, they just saw me reject this girl. A few minutes passed and I was still just sitting there with girls passing by and not even noticing me. Until this girl approached me her name was Daria / Darla who is a brunette, she had fake boobs but not too big, they were the right size. She was nice, not demanding and was going over everything with me.
First time: So she quoted me 70/30, I asked for BBBJ and she said it would be $90. I asked questions like what was allowed and she said no kissing in the mouth, which I was fine with. Once we went up to the room, she mentioned she would do CIM for another $10 so total was $100. Right off the start she had me lay on the bed and she started to go down on me, her BJ skills were fantastic, during this she asked if I wanted my prostate fingered which I smiled and said "no". She got on top of me and she started to ride me, she let out a few moans which I could tell some were a little fake but I didn't care. She kept riding me and during this she would tell me not to cum yet. Everything was great she had her tits right in my face and encouraged me to grab them. I asked if we could change position and she went right into doggy. I was ready to bust when we started fucking in doggy, her ass was perfect and she knew the right position to get in. As we're doing doggy, she kept reminding me not to finish, I didn't last long in doggy so I told her I was ready to cum. She had me lay down first, and what she did next was mind blowing. Before finishing me off, she put her ass right in my face and practically sat on me face. Then as she was doing this she started to give me oral till I finished. Now I will say the last time I had climaxed was a few days back so I went in there with a "loaded weapon". When I finished she said in her Bulgarian accent "ooh you cum too much, when was last time you cum?" She said I got a few shots in her hair which I couldn't see so wasn't sure. Overall, my first time was a blast and I'm glad I went with her. She wasn't demanding at all and made me few comfortable.
Now my mistake here is I went on the Saturday night before I ran the marathon so I couldn't stay too long. Unfortunately, I only had that one session, but I will say it was everything I expected and more. I plan to go again an I will make a whole day out of it next time. Again, thanks to everyone for the tips. They were all helpful.
How busy is Artemis during the beginning of January?
[QUOTE=SargeBob22;2756288]How busy is Artemis during the beginning of January?[/QUOTE]Dead. Or as locals say "tote Hosen". Til mid Jan.
Locals mongers are broke from Christmas. Many E Orthodox girls are still on holidays. Of course you can always get lucky, and it is more chilled. But at the current prices, Ninja think much better with indies and local brothels.
[QUOTE=Yoan1983M;2754121]
The bar area:
I finally went upstairs to the bar area and this is where all the action was going on. I would say there was about 30 girls and about 60 guys, maybe a little less guys. I ordered a club soda at the bar, and took a seat to watch how things go down here. It didn't take long for a lady to approach me, and she was a Bulgarian with an attitude. I can't remember her name but she was a brunette who right away quoted me $100. When I asked what was included she said "sex with condom, and OWC". She was very demanding to the point where she said "it's now or never", which I told her "no, thank you". [/QUOTE]There is a bunch of bulgarians at Artemis. I think I have been with most of them at least. Raisa and Aksena being the only ones among the bulgarians I saw a few months ago. But the Artemis bulgarians have a high average for looks among them, and in the room, they are some of the best. Aksena for example is incredible. It could have been anotehr one though, since I know at least 6 other bulgarians at Artemis also. But even though I have heard the "now or never" thing in the past, even from someone like the legendary czech Marketa, its nothing to worry about. You can still go back and say you changed your mind. They just don't want to have to talk to you for 30 minutes if you want to be undecided for those 30 minutes. LOL. Been there, done that alot of times.
[QUOTE=Yoan1983M;2754121]First off let me apologize for not dropping my review a little earlier. I got back from a holiday through Europe and upon arriving back home I got sick (not covid). Now I went to Artemis back at the end of September on a Saturday night, and let me say I had such a good time. All the information you guys gave on here was very helpful, so I thank you for that. When I first arrived everything was exactly how I had pictured it, there was a naked lady standing in the entrance, and a few by the showers. I changed and showered and at first I just wanted to walk around the location and see everything firsthand. I went down to the pool area, and checked out the movie theater. There weren't any ladies downstairs but I did have time to just sit and relax for a few minutes. I wanted to hit the steam room but it was a bit crowded.
The bar area:
I finally went upstairs to the bar area and this is where all the action was going on. I would say there was about 30 girls and about 60 guys, maybe a little less guys. I ordered a club soda at the bar, and took a seat to watch how things go down here. It didn't take long for a lady to approach me, and she was a Bulgarian with an attitude. I can't remember her name but she was a brunette who right away quoted me $100. When I asked what was included she said "sex with condom, and OWC". She was very demanding to the point where she said "it's now or never", which I told her "no, thank you". When this happened I thought I had screwed myself because all this happened where there was a few ladies, which I thought no way will they approach me now, they just saw me reject this girl. A few minutes passed and I was still just sitting there with girls passing by and not even noticing me. Until this girl approached me her name was Daria / Darla who is a brunette, she had fake boobs but not too big, they were the right size. She was nice, not demanding and was going over everything with me..[/QUOTE]Cumming at Artemis is good to prepare marathon? Breakfast but never room at Wellcum before Zoncolan, only when I return after, if I m able to find a desirable. Not more easy than to climb more than 20%.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2757641]Cumming at Artemis is good to prepare marathon? Breakfast but never room at Wellcum before Zoncolan, only when I return after, if I m able to find a desirable. Not more easy than to climb more than 20%.[/QUOTE]Siri -Ninja read your comments for years. Honestly, most very difficult to understand. This one good example. No idea what it means. Others have mentioned this in past.
You have lots of experience that is good to share with readers. But think really better to first write in native French, and then use on line translator, then cut and paste translation here. Merci.
Strange articles in local newspapers yesterday-court orders city to apologise for 2016 raid on Artemis. City has agreed, now they haggle over "damage" (5-20.000 EUR) money to be given to children charity. WTF?
[URL]https://m.bild.de/regional/berlin/berlin-aktuell/berlin-muss-sich-fuer-bordell-razzia-entschuldigen-das-gabs-noch-nie-81915132.bildMobile.html[/URL]
https://www.zeit.de/news/2022-11/11/schadenersatzklage-nach-razzia-vergleich-gescheitert
https://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/streit-um-bordell-razzia-in-berlin-schadenersatzklage-der-artemis-betreiber-beschaftigt-weiter-die-justiz-8866207.
htmlhttps://www.morgenpost.de/berlin/article236889565/Richter-werfen-Justizverwaltung-Unverschaemtheit-vor.html
Ninja remember time well, huge raid, huge police and use of state legal resources, people thrown in prison for 4 months, damage to reputations and income, serious stress all around. All bullshit. And now just "entschuldigung" and here is some money for children? Very strange.
Maybe Art's managment just wants to be done with it, throw them a bone for good will, prevent further harassment. Or maybe other legal actions planned once apology made. Was shocking abusive display of state power, in city known for being open and free and wild and tolerant.
I just returned from an EU excursion and FKK was on the list. My intention was to visit two FKKs in order to compare but in the end I only made it to Artemis.
The short story for newbs (Pros will already know everything I'm about to say):
Reachability:
It a 5-10 minute walk from the train station and easy to get to. I started my mission from Potsdamer Platz and I got there in about 25 minutes.
Staff:
There were two women at the front when I arrived and no other men but me. They were nice, helpful, and explained pretty much all that I needed to know. Entry was the advertised 90 eu and if you want alcoholic drinks, you have to purchase tokens from the front for 10 eu a piece (soft drinks are free) Yes, each drink is 10 eu (even a beer). Even the lady in the men's room was nice and chatted me up. She's from Thailand and was generally nice.
Layout:
This has been discussed before, but I'll give the same info to make it "up to date". There are three floors. You start your experience on floor two. This is where the locker rooms are and the main bar and kitchen.
When you enter the bar area from the front where the stairway is, you will see a bar and plenty of seats around the bar area. During my stay (Friday 4 pm - 8 pm), this is where everyone was hanging out. It definitely gets more crowded as the night continues. As you go deeper into the room past the bar, there are more lounging chairs and at the rear is the kitchen. I didn't eat, but the food didn't look bad at all.
On the 1st floor (basement) is the swimming pool, another shower (more private and my preference), massage tables, porn theatre, and gym. And if you are wondering, the answer is yes, that you can get busy in the porn theater. I personally witnessed a BJ when I peeked in. During my time there, the 1st floor was dead (besides the BJ I witnessed LOL). It seemed to be more for relaxation, getting sleep, taking a swim, etc.
The 3rd floor is your destination if you want to have private time with one of the girls.
The girls:
I did multiple counts throughout the night to prepare for this write up. LOL. I was always able to count at least 15 girls each time and this excluded the girls in the stairway or in the rooms on the third floor. All the girls were nude, but with varying degrees. Meaning that some had no clothes, while other had lingerie that was either completely see through, crotchless, or had garter belts that were literally pieces of string. I did see a few wearing a towel, at times.
There are a high percentage of romanians and they don't fit one mold. Though there is a lot of plastic roaming about, there are natural girls there as well, but they are the minority. The friendliness of the girls vary. Some want you to touch them, some give you eskimo kisses (this happened to me), and some make a big deal if you touch them (I heard a romanian girl embarrass a guy for touching her for "free". What a *****).
If you are interested in a girl, it's probably best to make your intentions known and start the process, because if you don't she might get tied up for the next few hours and you won't get to bang her.
My experience:
I was there for a couple hours and took in the environment. I started with entry and was given a gray robe. It appears that there are different color robes that probably have some kind of code. It felt like a strip club where you were closer to the girls because you were naked too. After strolling around and taking in the sights and the space, I found a couch to chill on. I was approached by 2-3 girls and shut them down as they were not my type. I like natural and thin, and they weren't. I had a dinner date at 930, so I couldn't stay too long, but I didn't want to leave with a full sack. I found a bleach blond german girl named Mindy or Mandy that I was able to session with. She was easy to talk to and super chill. She didn't seem high or over professional; rather she seemed like she knew the system and just went with the flow. She quoted me 70 eu for normal CBJ wit multiple positions or 90 eu with BBBJ. I don't need a BBBJ or kissing, etc, so I went for the 70 eu with cif (extra), which totaled 120 eu. She was great in the room and she took the cif better than most. She didn't completely dodge it, but she wanted it around her mouth area instead of getting her face painted. I blasted on her face and left satisfied.
Final thoughts:
It was awesome to try. I have read that this isn't the best FKK in the bunch so I'll probably try another in the Frankfurt area when I get a chance. For me, GFE is still king and from what I've experienced, a GFE guy (like me) would do waaaaay better with a girl from SA. However, this is quite the experience and even GFE guys should give it a shot once.
02.
Do any of the women at Artemis offer anal -- and if so, what's the going rate?
[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2765250]Do any of the women at Artemis offer anal -- and if so, what's the going rate?[/QUOTE]Yes. 100 Euro.
[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2765250]Do any of the women at Artemis offer anal -- and if so, what's the going rate?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Abox79;2765269]Yes. 100 Euro.[/QUOTE]My experience as well. Wasn't hard to find several girls, the only challenge is the "combination" of the right looks with the offering.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2765613]My experience as well. Wasn't hard to find several girls, the only challenge is the "combination" of the right looks with the offering.[/QUOTE]I don't just cornhole any old tute! She's got to pass my optics screening, which is a minimum 7 on The Cane's Scale of Optics. Haha!
Abox79: Thanks for the intel.
Tintin1: Point well-taken. Aren't we all looking for that combo?
The Cane: It's an honor, sir, to get a reply from someone whose posts I've long read and admired!
I'll let you all know how it goes.
Hi,
As I can see, Artemis is a decent club, but some say that there are better options. Which other FKK do you recommend?
[QUOTE=Iman99;2765994]Hi,
As I can see, Artemis is a decent club, but some say that there are better options. Which other FKK do you recommend?[/QUOTE]Do you mean in Berlin or Germany as a whole? If you mean Berlin I think it is regarded as the best option, if you mean Germany as a whole it's a subjective question but Oase and Sharks are generally regarded as the best by most.
[QUOTE=Abox79;2766172]Do you mean in Berlin or Germany as a whole? If you mean Berlin I think it is regarded as the best option, if you mean Germany as a whole it's a subjective question but Oase and Sharks are generally regarded as the best by most.[/QUOTE]Hi, yes I mean in Germany as a whole. I was reading that Oase in Frankfurt is not as good as it used to be. Any other options?
[QUOTE=Iman99;2766304]Hi, yes I mean in Germany as a whole. I was reading that Oase in Frankfurt is not as good as it used to be. Any other options?[/QUOTE]I don t know Artemis, but Oase and Sharks are not good value for money, most girls asking too expensive for their quality. Nevertheless, I still find few good beauties in Germany or at Freubad. Ch and what pleasure will be to push on German autobahns when rocket will be fully improved I wish on Friday, but I worry for brakes front disks going into too high heat.
Can someone suggest any better FKK in Germany besides Artemis?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2766443]I don t know Artemis, but Oase and Sharks are not good value for money, most girls asking too expensive for their quality. Nevertheless, I still find few good beauties in Germany or at Freubad. Ch and what pleasure will be to push on German autobahns when rocket will be fully improved I wish on Friday, but I worry for brakes front disks going into too high heat.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Iman99;2766580]Can someone suggest any better FKK in Germany besides Artemis?[/QUOTE]Visited Mainhatten a couple of times this month and I'll say Mainhatten is probably one of my favorite clubs!
Overall, it's subjectively big, big nice kino, nice lounge area, new smoking room detached from lounge, good food (went on Tuesday and was prime rib steak night, so everyone got a custom cooked prime rib steak on top of the buffet), great wellness with a sauna meister that comes certain days during the week and on weekends. Very relaxing environment.
The girls are not as abundant as Sharks or as pretty as Globe and I'd say there're on average 25 girls on any given day, but there are some veterans that have been there for 7-10 years and give great service. I had some 50430 sessions and some 100430 sessions all with BBBJ + CFS, nothing memorable but not lacking in any way. Had 1 session that started in the Kino and then went to the room. I always like this format as there are rooms right next to the kino and the kino is usually empty.
[QUOTE=Iman99;2766580]Can someone suggest any better FKK in Germany besides Artemis?[/QUOTE]Yea Sharks and Oase are not as good as they used to be. They are both still better than Artemis. Artemis is nothing more than profoundly adequate. Sharks has better facility and better girls and wider selection. Hands down.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2766681]Yea Sharks and Oase are not as good as they used to be. They are both still better than Artemis. Artemis is nothing more than profoundly adequate. Sharks has better facility and better girls and wider selection. Hands down.[/QUOTE]Totally agree and I would put Sharks much higher than Oase that can be very hit and miss from what I heard. It seems the party days are good with a decent line-up but all the other days are dead with a line-up at the level of a small club from NRW, between 20 and 30 girls, and some in the club since the 00's.
Even if the line-up in Sharks is inferior at what it was in the autumn 2021 (with regularly more than 100 girls), it's still the biggest with around 80 girls the weekends.
[QUOTE=Iman99;2766304]Hi, yes I mean in Germany as a whole. I was reading that Oase in Frankfurt is not as good as it used to be. Any other options?[/QUOTE]I think they are all in decline, certainly all the popular and most talked about FKK.
I will be in Berlin over the Christmas holidays (December 23-28) and I was wondering if anyone knows what days Artemis may be closed or have reduced hours? I did not see anything the last time I checked their website.
[QUOTE=OfficeMatt;2766862]I will be in Berlin over the Christmas holidays (December 23-28) and I was wondering if anyone knows what days Artemis may be closed or have reduced hours? I did not see anything the last time I checked their website.[/QUOTE]Closed evening 24 and all day 25 Dec. If you search here "Artemis Christmas" about 40 reports come up talking about pros and cons about pros (ha ha) over holidays. You can also email or call Artemis directly.
[QUOTE=Hyperion2007;2766748]Totally agree and I would put Sharks much higher than Oase that can be very hit and miss from what I heard. It seems the party days are good with a decent line-up but all the other days are dead with a line-up at the level of a small club from NRW, between 20 and 30 girls, and some in the club since the 00's.
Even if the line-up in Sharks is inferior at what it was in the autumn 2021 (with regularly more than 100 girls), it's still the biggest with around 80 girls the weekends.[/QUOTE]I don't say for Oase, but sometimes better quality among only 20/30 girls than among 80 averages.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2767522]I don't say for Oase, but sometimes better quality among only 20/30 girls than among 80 averages.[/QUOTE]Siri -again, confusing language. "Don't say" for? 80 "averages"? Meaning takes too much work to understand. Yes of course, quality not function of quantity.
You have much good info and experience to share but your English very very very confusing. Almost always. Almost all 20.000 posts! Seriously, Siri. Ninja talk with others and many feel same.
Please use translator. Easy, quick. Write first in French then just copy & paste translation. Ninja do same. First Mandarin, then translate. Take 5 seconds. Help Forum quality. For duty and humanity.
Merci.
I recently went to Artemis. It was my first time there – or at any FKK club, for that matter.
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ARRIVAL.
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I took an Uber there from my Kreuzberg hotel, which was a little pricey, but then again I went during rush hour. Artemis is located near the western edge of Berlin, rather far from the center of town.
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I walked in and was promptly greeted by a cheerful desk clerk who first asked me to read a one-pager about Artemis's rules and procedures. I paid my entrance fee of 90 euros and was given two wristbands and a red robe.
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I walked into the men's locker room. In keeping with the FKK ethos, there isn't any privacy in there; you change and shower in the company of other naked men.
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Some other posts on this board have wondered whether the robes that are given out are color-coded in some way. The woman I eventually went with told me that was not the case, that it was just a random thing.
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I undressed and stowed my clothes in a tall locker that opened when I held my wristband in front of a sensor on the door. I put on the robe and stowed my wallet and glasses in a much smaller locker (about the size of a loaf of bread) located in an adjacent room. This, too, opened when it was in the proximity of my wristband. I selected and donned a pair of plastic sandals and headed for the bar, which is on the same floor (the second) as the reception area.
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The first thing I noticed is that there were a lot of delightfully naked sexy women lounging around there. I was struck by how good-looking and in shape all of the women were; I don't think I saw any I'the rank lower than a 7, but your mileage may vary.
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A few of the women walked up to me and asked me where I was from and suggested maybe I would like their natural tits and their tight pussies. Quite the sales pitch. I begged off, saying that I wanted to explore the place first. The women were amenable to that, but after a while I got a little tired of being propositioned so often so I went downstairs to the sauna / health club / pool / massage / hammam / gym area. While a few women came down there to chat up some of the men, for the most part it was more peaceful and freer from solicitation than the bar floor bar. There were two or three guys actually sleeping in lounge chairs by the pool.
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I went into the 90-degree sauna (there's also a 60-degree one) and worked up a good sweat. Then I rinsed off with a quick shower and a dip in the pool. At poolside I saw another guy getting what looked like an expert massage from a masseur there.
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I should add that the whole place seemed impeccably clean and well-run.
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I got myself a Sprite. Soft drinks are free; to drink alcohol, you must buy a 10-euro token. The selection of alcohol is small and limited to beer and shots; cocktails aren't on the menu. Alcohol seems to be deliberately de-emphasized in this place, which is probably a good idea.
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I started talking with Claudia, a Polish woman who'the solicited me earlier. She was tall, dark-haired, toned, and nicely built with natural tits and no stretch marks or tattoos. She later told me she was 35 and had no kids. That suits me fine because I prefer women of that age who know their way around a man's body. I asked her about anal and she said she did not offer it. But there was something that seemed to click with me about her so I decided to go with her anyway.
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She led me up to the third floor, which according to a sign at the stairs, is off-limits to unescorted men. We went into a good-sized room with a round bed in one corner. The bed was illuminated by warm, hidden spotlights, while the rest of the room was dimly lit. There were mirrors on both walls at this corner which gave a good view of the action. The setting accomplished the rare feat of being designed with sex in mind while not being tacky.
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THE BUSINESS.
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As we laid naked on the bed, Claudia explained what she offered. It seemed that there is a base fee of 70 euros and everything else a la carte, with separate specified charges for a massage, for a body-to-body massage, for prostate stimulation, for BBBJ, for CIM, etc. That was a bit of a buzzkill. It seemed to remove all possibility of spontaneity – and it could get expensive fast. Claudia said that these charges were fixed by the women who worked there, and that is confirmed on the Artemis website and by the info sheet I read when I arrived.
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Claudia was definitely a talker, at times verging on logorrhea. There was the usual prosser patter about how much she liked me, etc. , but she also talked about her work (she's been at Artemis for seven years), the war and the pandemic, her hometown, etc. After all that talk, I thought it was time to put her mouth to better use.
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I opted for a one-hour session with a massage and a bareback CIM blowjob with prostate stimulation. Claudia was very skilled and took it deep. She kept me on the edge for a long time until I erupted – and she didn't spill a drop. Truly one of the best BJs I've had.
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THE AFTERMATH.
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I put my robe and slippers back on and went back downstairs with Claudia. While she stood by, I opened the small locker with a wave of my wristband and pulled out my wallet. I didn't quite have enough cash on me, but there are ATMs conveniently situated right there. Unfortunately, they charge an absurdly high fee of $25. This fee might be lower for people whose bank deposits are denominated in euros. Oh well – lesson learned.
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I bought a drink token at the front desk, went into the bar, and grabbed a beer. I then retreated to the pool / sauna area on the first floor. After alternating trips to the sauna with dips in the pool, I decided I'the had enough. I found my way back to the men's changing area, opened the big locker with my wristband, and got dressed. An Uber came for me 8 minutes later. I also noted a number of taxis waiting in the parking lot.
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PARTING SHOTS.
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Artemis attracts guys from all over. I saw African, Asian, European, and North American men there. The women there were nearly all European—and hot. It's definitely run with German efficiency and attention to detail. The facilities are top-notch. Artemis is the nicest and most complete brothel I've been to.
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Of course, there's a price to be paid for that. Having mongered in the developing world for years, the prices came as a bit of a shock to me. I suppose that's to be expected. With transportation, the entrance fee, my one drink token, the base fee, and the optional extras fees, it's very easy to spend $300 or more. And if you go over budget, as I did, you then get hit with high ATM fees on top of that.
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I liked the overall concept of Artemis as a place to hang out, work out, bathe, drink, enjoy a massage and a sauna, and get laid. I would have enjoyed it a little more if I'the been propositioned by fewer women – it gets tiresome when you're just trying to chill or explore the premises. But the hey-babying was not nearly as oppressive as I've had it at some other brothels, so I suppose I should count my blessings.
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Would I return? Absolutely, just as soon as my bank account is ready.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2767713]Siri -again, confusing language. "Don't say" for? 80 "averages"? Meaning takes too much work to understand. Yes of course, quality not function of quantity.
You have much good info and experience to share but your english very very very confusing. Almost always. Almost all 20.000 posts! Seriously, Siri. Ninja talk with others and many feel same.
Please use translator. Easy, quick. Write first in French then just copy & paste translation. Ninja do same. First Mandarin, then translate. Take 5 seconds. Help Forum quality. For duty and humanity.
Merci.[/QUOTE]I m sorry but if I didn t write in english, which relax my mind or keep me woken up on my long night drivings through western EU, then I would not have much interest to write here, when kind of english lessons, but I can tell You my too many followers read all of me and even ask around to try to find my girls I don t name anymore to protect them from bullshits about me when they don t deserve to be bothered by this kind of guys. I never visited Artemis because I was told not natural enough looks for me, even Sofia. De was with naturals at Artemis and put silicon for Globe.
[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2768306]As we laid naked on the bed, Claudia explained what she offered. It seemed that there is a base fee of 70 euros and everything else a la carte, with separate specified charges for a massage, for a body-to-body massage, for prostate stimulation, for BBBJ, for CIM, etc. That was a bit of a buzzkill. It seemed to remove all possibility of spontaneity and it could get expensive fast. Claudia said that these charges were fixed by the women who worked there, and that is confirmed on the Artemis website and by the info sheet I read when I arrived.[/QUOTE]Liked your report, even if the format was strange. You mentioned that a girl wanted to charge you extra for a massage. I like to get massages during sessions, and even bring my own special massage oils, but I have never paid extra for that (same for kissing which for me is far more satisfying when 100% spontaneous). I've had some girls deliver massages that were as good or better than a professional, and some that have been absolutely terrible, but never once have I paid extra for a massage (and never will). If I'm in the mood for one, then I will try to work it into the overall price that I'm agreeable to paying, and usually the girl will go along with that as long as she knows she's otherwise about to make some good money (I almost always go for hour sessions with anal). If they do insist on extra for a massage, then I will drop it, and otherwise would still go with the girl if she's up for doing everything else that I want. But like I said, I usually get massages without any upsell charge for them. And as for kissing, I don't even bring that up. That's not a "must have" for me like it is for a lot of guys. If it happens then it happens, we both wanted it, and I'm not paying extra for it! Glad you enjoyed your first FKK experience well enough to want to do it again. There are lots of FKK clubs around Germany (also in Austria and Switzerland but Germany is my fav FKK destination based on price and quality tutes). Artemis has been one of my steady favorite FKK clubs for many of the reasons you mentioned in your report. I know that a lack of spontaneity can be a buzzkill for a monger, but if there's something you really, really want in a session, then it's always better to ask about it up front rather than be disappointed and / or frustrated later, especially if it's something that a significant number of girls might not do (like anal sex). Welcome to the "club"!
[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2768306]I recently went to Artemis. It was my first time there or at any FKK club, for that matter.
THE BUSINESS.
As we laid naked on the bed, Claudia explained what she offered. It seemed that there is a base fee of 70 euros and everything else a la carte, with separate specified charges for a massage, for a body-to-body massage, for prostate stimulation, for BBBJ, for CIM, etc. That was a bit of a buzzkill. It seemed to remove all possibility of spontaneity and it could get expensive fast. Claudia said that these charges were fixed by the women who worked there, and that is confirmed on the Artemis website and by the info sheet I read when I arrived.[/QUOTE]
For your next trip you can generally get a much better "deal" if you set the prices before you go up to the room. It is easier to drive a decent bargain if there's a threat you can walk away from the deal. Generally the BBBJ is extra unless you are pricing an hour. The PM, CIM are almost always extra even in an hour. But like Cane said, I've never paid for the massage. When you do 30 minutes, everything seems a la carte.
25 to use the ATM, wow that's worse than paying extra for kissing!
I should have specified that the extra massage charge was for the "body to body" massage with oil.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2768340]Liked your report, even if the format was strange. You mentioned that a girl wanted to charge you extra for a massage. I like to get massages during sessions, and even bring my own special massage oils, but I have never paid extra for that (same for kissing which for me is far more satisfying when 100% spontaneous). I've had some girls deliver massages that were as good or better than a professional, and some that have been absolutely terrible, but never once have I paid extra for a massage (and never will). If I'm in the mood for one, then I will try to work it into the overall price that I'm agreeable to paying, and usually the girl will go along with that as long as she knows she's otherwise about to make some good money (I almost always go for hour sessions with anal). If they do insist on extra for a massage, then I will drop it, and otherwise would still go with the girl if she's up for doing everything else that I want. But like I said, I usually get massages without any upsell charge for them. And as for kissing, I don't even bring that up. That's not a "must have" for me like it is for a lot of guys. If it happens then it happens, we both wanted it, and I'm not paying extra for it! Glad you enjoyed your first FKK experience well enough to want to do it again. There are lots of FKK clubs around Germany (also in Austria and Switzerland but Germany is my fav FKK destination based on price and quality tutes). Artemis has been one of my steady favorite FKK clubs for many of the reasons you mentioned in your report. I know that a lack of spontaneity can be a buzzkill for a monger, but if there's something you really, really want in a session, then it's always better to ask about it up front rather than be disappointed and / or frustrated later, especially if it's something that a significant number of girls might not do (like anal sex). Welcome to the "club"![/QUOTE]
I returned to Artemis and was smarter about it than I was a few days ago.
First, I took the metro instead of an Uber. The Westkreuz metro stop is just about 100 meters from Artemis, so my transportation costs were a LOT less.
Second, I was savvier about what I wanted to pay for. Since everything is priced separately, getting the works is very expensive. So this time I didn't go for the body-to-body massage, the CIM, or a long session. I paid only the 90 euro admission, the flat 70 euro half hour fee plus a 100 euro upcharge for anal. That's still a big bill, but in this case well worth it.
I went with Rosalee, a Greek woman who said she'the worked at Artemis for six years and was 35 years old. She had an all-natural body with no stretch marks. Not as stunning as Claudia, my previous Artemis selection, but attractive with a good attitude. I wound up having one of the best sessions ever.
She began by kissing me all over and then licking my balls and perineum. Then she took me into her mouth and damn, she went all the way down to the root. The bed was right next to a mirror so I could see every beautiful detail. Then she slipped a condom on me and mounted up for a cowgirl ride. After several minutes of that, she shifted our position to anal cowgirl. She leaned back and exposed her pussy to me and encouraged me to rub it while she repeatedly impaled her ass on my cock. Amazing. This is a woman who knows how to please.
My general observations of Artemis were the same as in my previous report, so I won't repeat them here except to say that the quality of the women there is breathtaking.
[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2768849]I returned to Artemis and was smarter about it than I was a few days ago.
First, I took the metro instead of an Uber. The Westkreuz metro stop is just about 100 meters from Artemis, so my transportation costs were a LOT less.
Second, I was savvier about what I wanted to pay for. Since everything is priced separately, getting the works is very expensive. So this time I didn't go for the body-to-body massage, the CIM, or a long session. I paid only the 90 euro admission, the flat 70 euro half hour fee plus a 100 euro upcharge for anal. That's still a big bill, but in this case well worth it.
I went with Rosalee, a Greek woman who said she'the worked at Artemis for six years and was 35 years old. She had an all-natural body with no stretch marks. Not as stunning as Claudia, my previous Artemis selection, but attractive with a good attitude. I wound up having one of the best sessions ever.
She began by kissing me all over and then licking my balls and perineum. Then she took me into her mouth and damn, she went all the way down to the root. The bed was right next to a mirror so I could see every beautiful detail. Then she slipped a condom on me and mounted up for a cowgirl ride. After several minutes of that, she shifted our position to anal cowgirl. She leaned back and exposed her pussy to me and encouraged me to rub it while she repeatedly impaled her ass on my cock. Amazing. This is a woman who knows how to please.
My general observations of Artemis were the same as in my previous report, so I won't repeat them here except to say that the quality of the women there is breathtaking.[/QUOTE]Great report. Congrats. Very jealous!
[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2768849]I went with Rosalee, a Greek woman who said she'the worked at Artemis for six years and was 35 years old. She had an all-natural body with no stretch marks. Not as stunning as Claudia, my previous Artemis selection, but attractive with a good attitude.[/QUOTE]Had my first session with her in March 2011. Maybe she's longer working at A than seven years only.
[QUOTE=LshRoomer;2764883]
It was awesome to try. I have read that this isn't the best FKK in the bunch so I'll probably try another in the Frankfurt area when I get a chance. For me, GFE is still king and from what I've experienced, a GFE guy (like me) would do waaaaay better with a girl from SA. However, this is quite the experience and even GFE guys should give it a shot once.
02.[/QUOTE]Where is the better GFE at? What is SA? I'm heading to Germany soon and want to hit an FKK, red light somewhere and just try a few things.
[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2768849]I returned to Artemis and was smarter about it than I was a few days ago.
First, I took the metro instead of an Uber. The Westkreuz metro stop is just about 100 meters from Artemis, so my transportation costs were a LOT less.
Second, I was savvier about what I wanted to pay for. Since everything is priced separately, getting the works is very expensive. So this time I didn't go for the body-to-body massage, the CIM, or a long session. I paid only the 90 euro admission, the flat 70 euro half hour fee plus a 100 euro upcharge for anal. That's still a big bill, but in this case well worth it.
I went with Rosalee, a Greek woman who said she'the worked at Artemis for six years and was 35 years old. She had an all-natural body with no stretch marks. Not as stunning as Claudia, my previous Artemis selection, but attractive with a good attitude. I wound up having one of the best sessions ever.
She began by kissing me all over and then licking my balls and perineum. Then she took me into her mouth and damn, she went all the way down to the root. The bed was right next to a mirror so I could see every beautiful detail. Then she slipped a condom on me and mounted up for a cowgirl ride. After several minutes of that, she shifted our position to anal cowgirl. She leaned back and exposed her pussy to me and encouraged me to rub it while she repeatedly impaled her ass on my cock. Amazing. This is a woman who knows how to please.
My general observations of Artemis were the same as in my previous report, so I won't repeat them here except to say that the quality of the women there is breathtaking.[/QUOTE]I've had Rosalee, she's not a perfect in terms of looks compared to the other girls and she's older in her 30's, but she gives a good session. She did say to slow down alot though, she doesn't like to be pounded.
[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2769672]Where is the better GFE at? What is SA? I'm heading to Germany soon and want to hit an FKK, red light somewhere and just try a few things.[/QUOTE]That's one of the problems with this site. For new people first visiting the phrase "SA" means nothing. I'm headed to Frankfurt in January and intend to drop by FKK Sharks, FKK Mainhattan, FKK Palace and Partytreff Bordell Treff 188. Maybe FKK OASE. I'm 51 years old so I'll see if it's too much. At a minimum I'll go to FKK Mainhattan and Palace.
[QUOTE=KeyserSoze55;2769718]That's one of the problems with this site. For new people first visiting the phrase "SA" means nothing. I'm headed to Frankfurt in January and intend to drop by FKK Sharks, FKK Mainhattan, FKK Palace and Partytreff Bordell Treff 188. Maybe FKK OASE. I'm 51 years old so I'll see if it's too much. At a minimum I'll go to FKK Mainhattan and Palace.[/QUOTE]I know quite a few terms but not SA. I try and read a lot and pick up on stuff. I can't decide where all I want to go visit but want to hit an FKK at nearly every stop.
[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2770399]I know quite a few terms but not SA. I try and read a lot and pick up on stuff. I can't decide where all I want to go visit but want to hit an FKK at nearly every stop.[/QUOTE]"Seeking Arrangement" older website, do search.
Covid ticking significantly up again (hospitalization rates and cases, most in 30-60 age group) in German cities. This and usual Christmas slow down suggest not great time for hours in crowded, smokey FKK.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2770424]"Seeking Arrangement" older website, do search.
Covid ticking significantly up again (hospitalisation rates and cases, most in 30-60 age group) in German cities. This and usual Christmas slow down suggest not great time for hours in crowded, smokey FKK.[/QUOTE]Ah yeah. I wondered if that was it. I've been a member there it's pretty great but not so much for just a 1 time thing in general. But maybe Germany is different?
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2767492]Closed evening 24 and all day 25 Dec. If you search here "Artemis Christmas" about 40 reports come up talking about pros and cons about pros (ha ha) over holidays. You can also email or call Artemis directly.[/QUOTE]Thanks Nooky.
Yesterday court ordered Berlin government to pay Artemis owners 100.000 EUR in damages for 2016 raid. Owners say they will donate to children's cancer charity. Berlin may try to appeal but not easy. All major German news outlets report this, examples:
[URL]https://www.rbb24.de/panorama/beitrag/2022/12/berlin-bordell-artemis-razzia-schadenersatz-urteil.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/berlin-muss-bordellbetreibern-mehr-als-100-000-euro-schadensersatz-zahlen-a-d6d5594c-1543-47bf-9b49-79885591f3e1[/URL]
The whole thing was / is just weird.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2772663]Yesterday court ordered Berlin government to pay Artemis owners 100.000 EUR in damages for 2016 raid. Owners say they will donate to children's cancer charity. Berlin may try to appeal but not easy. All major German news outlets report this, examples:
[URL]https://www.rbb24.de/panorama/beitrag/2022/12/berlin-bordell-artemis-razzia-schadenersatz-urteil.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/berlin-muss-bordellbetreibern-mehr-als-100-000-euro-schadensersatz-zahlen-a-d6d5594c-1543-47bf-9b49-79885591f3e1[/URL]
The whole thing was / is just weird.[/QUOTE]Kennan still rocks it! That allegation and media attack was so wrong! The media made Artemis sound like some evil place which is not!
Hello, and happy 2023 to all!
I have a trip report coming, but first want to ask if there are any expectations of DFK at Artemis? I did not meet a single woman that offered it. Is this the norm, or is it a CV-19 practice? I still enjoyed myself, but enjoy DFK too.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2774869]Hello, and happy 2023 to all!
I have a trip report coming, but first want to ask if there are any expectations of DFK at Artemis? I did not meet a single woman that offered it. Is this the norm, or is it a CV-19 practice? I still enjoyed myself, but enjoy DFK too.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Do not expect DFK at Artemis. Nevertheless sometimes it happens, but if it happens, you're a lucky one. Happy 2023!
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2775049]Do not expect DFK at Artemis. Nevertheless sometimes it happens, but if it happens, you're a lucky one. Happy 2023![/QUOTE]Equally so! Thank you.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2775049]Do not expect DFK at Artemis. Nevertheless sometimes it happens, but if it happens, you're a lucky one. Happy 2023![/QUOTE]Thanks for this information, to not waste for silicon, tattoes and no GFE. In Germany or at 6 , I found Germans, all without silicon, not big tattoes and really french kissing on 2022 . My best German year.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2770424]"Seeking Arrangement" older website, do search.
Covid ticking significantly up again (hospitalisation rates and cases, most in 30-60 age group) in German cities. This and usual Christmas slow down suggest not great time for hours in crowded, smokey FKK.[/QUOTE]Nooky, you have been banging about Corona and Covid in this forum for years now. Please stop.
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2776525]Nooky, you have been banging about Corona and Covid in this forum for years now. Please stop.[/QUOTE]Not banging on, just reporting facts. You are free to ignore or not read or to block.
Berlin Covid hospitalisations rate (official data) now at 3rd highest ever. Too many denying it is still a problem and crowded, poor ventillated venues play a role. Ninja have doctor and nurse friends and they are pissed at lack of support and how they have to pick up all the pieces. We don't even know real picture as large scale testing has stopped. Age distribution now very widely spread. Berlin info has slowed because government faces local election in Feb and does not want to spoil party mood. Everyone exhausted from dealing and thinking about it-Ninja also. But does not change the facts or risks. See for yourself: [URL]https://data.lageso.de/lageso/corona/corona.html#station%C3%A4 re-behandlung[/URL] and [URL]https://data.lageso.de/lageso/corona/corona.html#altersgruppen[/URL].
For rest. Advise waiting til warmer weather and you can spend more time outside. In any case, with coming E Orthodox holidays etc. Choices still weak at A, vibe very different from glory days, and the costs now so high, smaller private apartments have cost, risk and choice advantages. Last comment on this.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2776662]Not banging on, just reporting facts. You are free to ignore or not read or to block.
Berlin Covid hospitalisations rate (official data) now at 3rd highest ever. Too many denying it is still a problem and crowded, poor ventillated venues play a role. Ninja have doctor and nurse friends and they are pissed at lack of support and how they have to pick up all the pieces. We don't even know real picture as large scale testing has stopped. Age distribution now very widely spread. Berlin info has slowed because government faces local election in Feb and does not want to spoil party mood. Everyone exhausted from dealing and thinking about it-Ninja also. But does not change the facts or risks. See for yourself: [URL]https://data.lageso.de/lageso/corona/corona.html#station%C3%A4 re-behandlung[/URL] and [URL]https://data.lageso.de/lageso/corona/corona.html#altersgruppen[/URL].
For rest. Advise waiting til warmer weather and you can spend more time outside. In any case, with coming E Orthodox holidays etc. Choices still weak at A, vibe very different from glory days, and the costs now so high, smaller private apartments have cost, risk and choice advantages. Last comment on this.[/QUOTE]And Chineses will arrive, with lies. Seem they have new variant.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2776668]And Chineses will arrive, with lies. Seem they have new variant.[/QUOTE]Yes. We just don't know yet really what this means. May not be an issue. But even if mutations managable, sheer number of infections over short time may pose threat. We simply not know for some weeks. Just saying, a little prudence still.
Life is not perfect or normal yet-how could it be. But much better than 2020-2021.
On my way to Berlin and it seems that the best place to visit I Artemis. Anni Porsche, King George and the Sexkinos all seem to have girls looking like the wife of Shrek!
What are the best days of the week? And what times?
[QUOTE=Svenne50;2778004]On my way to Berlin and it seems that the best place to visit I Artemis. Anni Porsche, King George and the Sexkinos all seem to have girls looking like the wife of Shrek!
What are the best days of the week? And what times?[/QUOTE]Friday and Saturday has the best line-up. Be there at 18.00/19.00. That way you can see the girls working during the day and the girls working the night shift.
Hi all,
I'm traveling to Germany next week and am able to make it to Berlin for one night, likely Wednesday afternoon / evening. I've never tried FKK and am trying to decide whether to (A) hit up Artemis, (B) change plans and fly into Frankfurt to visit Sharks, or (C) just find an escort. I'm looking to relax a bit and get covered BJs from a few girls in their 20's, ideally friendly and facially pretty. I don't care about body as much and would prefer not to have the "plastic" lip fillers look. Am I going to find what I'm looking for at Artemis on a Wednesday? Should I change plans and go to Sharks, which would be a logistical hassle? Final question for this newbie. I have a bit of a fetish for pigtails and that kind of thing. Are FKK girls in general going to have hair ties and be willing to put their hair into pigtails? Or is that not really a thing in an FKK? Most appreciated, everyone. Thank you!
[QUOTE=Johnsau;2778614]Hi all, I'm traveling to Germany next week and am able to make it to Berlin for one night, likely Wednesday afternoon / evening.[/QUOTE]Pigtail: IMHO there's a good chance. Just ask in advance, some or most of the girls will fulfill your wish.
Artemis: Lineup on Wed generally weaker than Fri / Sat. Wednesday is lingerie day, girls will not be naked in the bar. Of course they undress for you in the room.
Artemis vs. Sharks: Most of the girls in Berlin are in their 30's. If that's the point, you should prefer Sharks. Average age of the girls is lower there.
Enjoy your stay. Have a safe trip!
[QUOTE=Johnsau;2778614]Hi all,
I'm traveling to Germany next week and am able to make it to Berlin for one night, likely Wednesday afternoon / evening. I've never tried FKK and am trying to decide whether to (A) hit up Artemis, (B) change plans and fly into Frankfurt to visit Sharks, or (C) just find an escort. I'm looking to relax a bit and get covered BJs from a few girls in their 20's, ideally friendly and facially pretty. I don't care about body as much and would prefer not to have the "plastic" lip fillers look. Am I going to find what I'm looking for at Artemis on a Wednesday? Should I change plans and go to Sharks, which would be a logistical hassle? Final question for this newbie. I have a bit of a fetish for pigtails and that kind of thing. Are FKK girls in general going to have hair ties and be willing to put their hair into pigtails? Or is that not really a thing in an FKK? Most appreciated, everyone. Thank you![/QUOTE]First, I must preface this by saying I have not visited FKK Artemis or FKK Sharks in years. I will just give you some information. You can make your own decision based on time and logistics. Artemis is located about 1 hour from Berlin Brandenburg Airport. You could arrive easily by public transport. Once there, everything will be simple and laid out for you. You could even keep your luggage in their storage room. Easy, but maybe not the best girls at that time of day. If you are only looking for CBJ, then no need to pay for extras. You are likely to find "plastic lip filler looks", but many girls are natural. Artemis girls there were not my type, but you could still find a few girls that will satisfy your fancy. FKK Sharks is located in Darmstadt. You can take public transport, but that will cut into your time. There is also a 15 minute walk from the Darmstadt station to Sharks. A taxi might be better if you choose this option. Also, easy once you make it into the club and they will hold your luggage. More girls are generally available at that time, and they will be more likely in the age range you like. It depends, so others might be able to answer your questions and fill in the blanks. Many girls do wear their hair up in pigtails. One girl even liked it when I pulled on her hair. YMMV. Definitely give the FKK experience a try. Trying to line up several escorts might be more difficult, unless you have somebody specific in mind. You might also find it harder to book two or more for the exact hours you are on layover. Good luck to you Jonsau!
FiddyCent.
[QUOTE=Johnsau;2778614]Hi all,
I'm traveling to Germany next week and am able to make it to Berlin for one night, likely Wednesday afternoon / evening. I've never tried FKK and am trying to decide whether to (A) hit up Artemis, (B) change plans and fly into Frankfurt to visit Sharks, or (C) just find an escort. I'm looking to relax a bit and get covered BJs from a few girls in their 20's, ideally friendly and facially pretty. I don't care about body as much and would prefer not to have the "plastic" lip fillers look. Am I going to find what I'm looking for at Artemis on a Wednesday? Should I change plans and go to Sharks, which would be a logistical hassle? Final question for this newbie. I have a bit of a fetish for pigtails and that kind of thing. Are FKK girls in general going to have hair ties and be willing to put their hair into pigtails? Or is that not really a thing in an FKK? Most appreciated, everyone. Thank you![/QUOTE]FKK is to discover once in life, with many girls, sometimes full naked, but at the moment, I prefer my French escort in Germany enjoying her so fresh natural beauty and turning deeper and deeper GFE for 200 for 70/75 mn. So exciting when she put off her clothes.
[QUOTE=Johnsau;2778614]Hi all,
I'm traveling to Germany next week and am able to make it to Berlin for one night, likely Wednesday afternoon / evening. I've never tried FKK and am trying to decide whether to (A) hit up Artemis, (B) change plans and fly into Frankfurt to visit Sharks, or (C) just find an escort. I'm looking to relax a bit and get covered BJs from a few girls in their 20's, ideally friendly and facially pretty. I don't care about body as much and would prefer not to have the "plastic" lip fillers look. Am I going to find what I'm looking for at Artemis on a Wednesday? Should I change plans and go to Sharks, which would be a logistical hassle? Final question for this newbie. I have a bit of a fetish for pigtails and that kind of thing. Are FKK girls in general going to have hair ties and be willing to put their hair into pigtails? Or is that not really a thing in an FKK? Most appreciated, everyone. Thank you![/QUOTE]If you have only one night a Wednesday I would consider Sharks: you will have almost the full line-up (more than 70 girls), and for finding girls in their twenties it's pretty much the go to place. For your information, in Sharks covered or not covered the price is 100/30 and 150/60. It's less expensive in Artemis: 70/30 and 140/60.
For the pigtail you will have no problem at all: a good number of girls do a ponytail naturally before sex for protecting their hair. Ask her before going to the bedroom, she will go back to her locker to take what's necessary if she don't have it in her purse. I have been once with Isabella only because she had a splendid Lara Croft's pigtail. I told her that I liked it very much but she said it was too much work to do it regularly.
[QUOTE=Hyperion2007;2778954]If you have only one night a Wednesday I would consider Sharks: you will have almost the full line-up (more than 70 girls), and for finding girls in their twenties it's pretty much the go to place. For your information, in Sharks covered or not covered the price is 100/30 and 150/60. It's less expensive in Artemis: 70/30 and 140/60.
For the pigtail you will have no problem at all: a good number of girls do a ponytail naturally before sex for protecting their hair. Ask her before going to the bedroom, she will go back to her locker to take what's necessary if she don't have it in her purse. I have been once with Isabella only because she had a splendid Lara Croft's pigtail. I told her that I liked it very much but she said it was too much work to do it regularly.[/QUOTE]I'd agree with H2007 about choice- Many more girls at Sharks. ? Given you are paying for CBJ probably 30 minutes, you'll do fine in Artemis. If you want uncovered, finish in mouth, then maybe Sharks a bit better but honestly you are asking for the most basic service. As to relax. Berlin is the least relaxing set up. I find the narrow living room and back couch area very sterile. Nowhere to really walk around. Girls in a smaller area sitting a bit away. Sharks isn't a complete zen palace but much easier to find a zone to sit and girls are more spread out.
If money isn't an issue I'd say pay them to braid their hair.
FKK is to discover once in life, with many girls, sometimes full naked, but at the moment, I prefer my French escort in Germany enjoying her so fresh natural beauty and turning deeper and deeper GFE for 200 for 70/75 mn. So exciting when she put off her clothes.
[QUOTE=UssbTravel;2779180]FKK is to discover once in life, with many girls, sometimes full naked, but at the moment, I prefer my French escort in Germany enjoying her so fresh natural beauty and turning deeper and deeper GFE for 200 for 70/75 mn. So exciting when she put off her clothes.[/QUOTE]No agency, just a girl, but more complicated for me than when she was at Sharks where I would prefer she return or in other club, even I would have entry to pay. Escort in Germany is not so glamour than in Paris. I experienced quite same on 2018 with a German who was also wow.
Is the Artemis entrance fee free if it is your birthday?
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2782065]Is the Artemis entrance fee free if it is your birthday?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately not.
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2782065]Is the Artemis entrance fee free if it is your birthday?[/QUOTE]Pinball, still around, nice, all good I guess.
You better discuss your questions directly with the back of Artemis. The security team!
Here some greetings (hope the link works):
[URL]https://youtu.be/X5fY8Q-XUSE[/URL]
You know, who else than security squad is allowed to stand big at the stairs, in street clothes and I mean street, if not the men you better don't play with!
Better don't forget your "PARA" (Check also this tune! Nothing but fire!) if you want to step in the Art!
This weekend Artemis was almost a bit back into the old swing. Fair amount of ladies, even if the younger and slim, unblemished type has become a rarity. I was happy to meet (not for the first time) a young lady is who does fellatio almost like nobody else: Elena.
[QUOTE=TeFab456;2782541]This weekend Artemis was almost a bit back into the old swing. Fair amount of ladies, even if the younger and slim, unblemished type has become a rarity. I was happy to meet (not for the first time) a young lady is who does fellatio almost like nobody else: Elena.[/QUOTE]That's great to hear it's getting better. Was this Elena German?
[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2782441]Pinball, still around, nice, all good I guess.
You better discuss your questions directly with the back of Artemis. The security team!
Here some greetings (hope the link works):
[URL]https://youtu.be/X5fY8Q-XUSE[/URL]
You know, who else than security squad is allowed to stand big at the stairs, in street clothes and I mean street, if not the men you better don't play with!
Better don't forget your "PARA" (Check also this tune! Nothing but fire!) if you want to step in the Art![/QUOTE]I just checked the Youtube video link. What is this shitty video all about? Besides some angry man spitting bullshit.
[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2786756]I just checked the Youtube video link. What is this shitty video all about? Besides some angry man spitting bullshit.[/QUOTE]
ROFL, German people are in general too serious which in turn hamper their creativity.
How many times they have been trying to become well renowned singers, rappers, movie, porn producers. Have not got any luck sofar. Not Even for the German people who want to buy, listen or watching them. Theory of comparative advantage from David Ricardo. Focus on the things you are good at. They are good in managing Brothels, Partytreffs, AO, Swingers Parties in Europe, they should focus on this and keep the price low to maintain the competitive advantage.
[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2786756]I just checked the Youtube video link. What is this shitty video all about? Besides some angry man spitting bullshit.[/QUOTE]You checked the video? LOL. Not my fault, super LOL!
This video is the answer to the question: Free entry on birthday?
Just read the thread.
[QUOTE=Adindas;2789445]ROFL, German people are in general too serious which in turn hamper their creativity.
How many times they have been trying to become well renowned singers, rappers, movie, porn producers. Have not got any luck sofar. Not Even for the German people who want to buy, listen or watching them. Theory of comparative advantage from David Ricardo. Focus on the things you are good at. They are good in managing Brothels, Partytreffs, AO, Swingers Parties in Europe, they should focus on this and keep the price low to maintain the competitive advantage.[/QUOTE]I am not sure if the video-guy is pure German, but all the partytreff managers are, definitely!
Penisless bots who are talking about erection problems are quite creative, should be.
Dear fellas,
I will be visiting Berlin 24-27 March with my wife.
Do you recommend Artemis club?
All advises are welcomed.
[QUOTE=EnricoMacias;2798905]Dear fellas,
I will be visiting Berlin 24-27 March with my wife.
Do you recommend Artemis club?
All advises are welcomed.[/QUOTE]With your wife? Is she also invited to Artemis?
[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2798987]With your wife? Is she also invited to Artemis?[/QUOTE]Yep, I am asking your opinions.
Is it good to go Artemis together with wife?
If not Artemis, what about other places? For example kitkat.
[QUOTE=EnricoMacias;2798989]Is it good to go Artemis together with wife?
If not Artemis, what about other places? For example kitkat.[/QUOTE]1. Not allowed. Unless your wife is man.
2. Search swinger clubs, Berlin. Insomnia maybe better choice.
[QUOTE=EnricoMacias;2798905]Dear fellas,
I will be visiting Berlin 24-27 March with my wife.
Do you recommend Artemis club?
All advises are welcomed.[/QUOTE]I have been to artemis since year 2010 and I never saw a guy taking normal girl, but I do know it is allowed and it exist! So your wife will stand out, but will be respected by fellow mongers!
I saw two hot normal girls once in artemis who did not work there and were just normal girls joining in to look around! They spent most time in sauna and by pool area down stairs!
[QUOTE=MrHo;2799416]I saw two hot normal girls once in artemis who did not work there and were just normal girls joining in to look around! They spent most time in sauna and by pool area down stairs![/QUOTE]Whatever you saw, it is not allowed. Period. They probably worked there as staff, or were new and / or checking place out.
Call front desk and ask. They will confirm "verbotten".
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2799427]Whatever you saw, it is not allowed. Period. They probably worked there as staff, or were new and / or checking place out.
Call front desk and ask. They will confirm "verbotten".[/QUOTE]They paid girls entry and gave ID to be allowed to enter.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2799427]Whatever you saw, it is not allowed. Period. They probably worked there as staff, or were new and / or checking place out.
Call front desk and ask. They will confirm "verbotten".[/QUOTE]Thank you everybody for the feedback.
We are not open for swınger. We just want to watch around because ı lıve ıand kuwaıt, you mıght ımagıne the atmosphere here.
Maybe massage saloons?
Any places sımılar to amsterdam sex theatres?
Where we can pay some and watch lıve actıONS.
Or naked women.
I will be in Berlin end of March and I saw that there will be a "bunny party" at Artemis, with a spin the wheel event. Anyone have experiences with this before? The bunny thing I guess is just the girls will dress like Playboy bunnies. But I have no idea about the wheel, or what the atmosphere will be like (more party atmosphere or still the same as usual).
[QUOTE=NotBeingSeen;2799727]I will be in Berlin end of March and I saw that there will be a "bunny party" at Artemis, with a spin the wheel event. Anyone have experiences with this before? The bunny thing I guess is just the girls will dress like Playboy bunnies. But I have no idea about the wheel, or what the atmosphere will be like (more party atmosphere or still the same as usual).[/QUOTE]So called Bunny Party: March 30th. Wheel of fortune at the entrance, spin the wheel and win or lose. You may win a voucher for a free entrance or for an alcoholic drink or a bottle of Champagne. During the night you will experience some odd party games in the lounge area (no need to participate, sometimes the DJ asks for volunteers). You may like it or not. Some girls will get drunken later on. You may like it or not, too.
Planning a visit in July along with wife. Will she be allowed in? She loves to fck.
She is also a dominatrix and want to chk BDSM scene. All inputs will be appreciated.
[QUOTE=FckMyWife;2803105]Planning a visit in July along with wife. Will she be allowed in? She loves to fck.
She is also a dominatrix and want to chk BDSM scene. All inputs will be appreciated.[/QUOTE]How does a hotwife who loves to be pleasured everyday indulge herself in Berlin?
Any reasonably well to do man like to host?
[QUOTE=FckMyWife;2803105]Planning a visit in July along with wife. Will she be allowed in?[/QUOTE]No. (Ten characters needed.).
[QUOTE=FckMyWife;2804262]How does a hotwife who loves to be pleasured everyday indulge herself in Berlin? Any reasonably well to do man like to host?[/QUOTE]Ah the twins are active, Herr Troll and Herr Pimp.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2804503]No. (Ten characters needed.).[/QUOTE]Thanks for your input.
In 2019 we had been to Insomnia and to Club 44.
We wanted to try out other places.
We are coming from India at our costs and meeting men with out charging, how does that makes us a twin of troll and pimp?
Pl DM if interested.
[QUOTE=FckMyWife;2804262]How does a hotwife who loves to be pleasured everyday indulge herself in Berlin?
Any reasonably well to do man like to host?[/QUOTE]Is she hot? Does she have any reviews?
[QUOTE=FckMyWife;2803105]Planning a visit in July along with wife. Will she be allowed in? She loves to fck.
She is also a dominatrix and want to chk BDSM scene. All inputs will be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Yes, she is allowed in, especially if she is young and beautiful LOL! Even if not, she will be allowed in LOL!
[QUOTE=FckMyWife;2804716]Thanks for your input.
In 2019 we had been to Insomnia and to Club 44.
We wanted to try out other places.
We are coming from India at our costs and meeting men with out charging, how does that makes us a twin of troll and pimp?
Pl DM if interested.[/QUOTE]There are websites that specialize in this sort of meet ups. It's generally not last minute and you need to start the dialogue earlier.
Fetlife is one and a something like lifestyle lounge? I used FetLife for years and met many fine kinksters, would have various meet up party announcements.
In some places and some cities there are monthly meet and greet coffee events so you can introduce yourself to the community and obviously a back channel message board.
Alternately, most DL stipulate whether they do MFF or FF sessions but that's the pay for play space.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2805413]Yes, she is allowed in, especially if she is young and beautiful LOL! Even if not, she will be allowed in LOL![/QUOTE]Someone said No and you are saying Yes. Why this 2 opposite views?
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2805448]There are websites that specialize in this sort of meet ups. It's generally not last minute and you need to start the dialogue earlier.
Fetlife is one and a something like lifestyle lounge? I used FetLife for years and met many fine kinksters, would have various meet up party announcements.
In some places and some cities there are monthly meet and greet coffee events so you can introduce yourself to the community and obviously a back channel message board.
Alternately, most DL stipulate whether they do MFF or FF sessions but that's the pay for play space.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your response. Many sex sites are banned in India including Fetlife. Here I was trying to reach out directly to members whoever would be interested.
[QUOTE=FckMyWife;2805668]Someone said No and you are saying Yes. Why this 2 opposite views?[/QUOTE]The first answer was correct. If you Google "FKK Artemis" a long list of Questions and Answers is returned, as per the attached.
Arrived 23.00 and left 03.00 about 30 girls. A clear majority of the girls were skinny and the lack of big asses was disappointing.
Did a 20 min overview and needed to get the first nut out of the way.
Victoria (Romania) Long black hair and pretty face.
In the room I told her that I wanted a BJ on the chair and she was ok with that. Lots of eye contact and enthusiasm for a while but then she complained that her knees were hurting so she kneeled on the bed while I was standing on the floor. Now she was just sucking one third of the dick so I put one foot on the bed and one hand behind her head to help her get the rest and she stopped sucking and told me that if I didn't remove my hand she was going to throw up and then leave the room! Eh, ok? So now condom on and missionary followed by doggystyle. Time for CIM. I'm on my back and she sucks for a while then says she's getting a headache from sucking my dick, that she doesn't care for CIM and that we have 7 min left. Wow, she's willing to say no to 50€? If it weren't for the fact that I had saved up a massive 4 day load I would have just skipped CIM. Told her just suck the tip and pull my balls while I jerk my dick and sure enough within 5 min she got a massive load but only took half in her mouth before closing her mouth. 30 min 140€.
Took my time to check if any new girls would appear but it was a slow night. Saw a dark blond girl with a neon yellow fishnet that seemed very popular and she was on the top of my list but she seemed very eager to get guys upstairs as quick as possible. Instead, I decided to take a girl that didn't get a lot of attention and that wasn't pestering clients.
Julia (Bulgaria) Long wavy brown / light brown hair.
We started on the chair and wow, this girl can deepthroat like a pro with her tongue sticking out. It was heaven. Doggystyle wasn't good as she did that thing where they arch their back and tilt their ass to the ceiling to prevent you from going to deep so I switched to cowgirl and that wasn't much better so back to lying on my back and she was deepthroating from the side for a few minutes and then with her ass facing me. Told her I wanted her in front of me and she obliged. I put both of my hands on the back of her head and pushed as fast and hard as I wanted to and she said nothing. She took every drop, no cum dodging. 30 min 140€.
Food was for once surprisingly good but the lineup was bad. One girl told me that easter + ramadan was bad for business but there were more guys than girls so that's BS.
[QUOTE=Samplerr;2805802]The first answer was correct. If you Google "FKK Artemis" a long list of Questions and Answers is returned, as per the attached.[/QUOTE]Thank you. So what are other options? Are there BDSM dungeon she and me can visit?
[QUOTE=FckMyWife;2805668]Someone said No and you are saying Yes. Why this 2 opposite views?[/QUOTE]Some here are just faking. Call club and ask.
How common is bareback at these FKK clubs? I am going to be in Berlin in a month and want to try these out.
[QUOTE=FckMyWife;2806185]Thank you. So what are other options? Are there BDSM dungeon she and me can visit?[/QUOTE]There is a place called Studio Lux Berlin where you can reserve partners and rooms I think. Occasionally they have events. There is an ad board for BDSM in Germany and Austria but I can't remember the name at the moment. Google is your friend.
Is it possible to wear a hat and sunglasses in Artemis?
[QUOTE=Clone8884;2814085]How common is bareback at these FKK clubs? I am going to be in Berlin in a month and want to try these out.[/QUOTE]Selenskyi is coming to Berlin next week, this is the moment when you can do bareback, but not in Artemis.
In Clubs you can only take a bareback shower, not sure for hessen clubs. How the bots fuck is still secret!
I've visited Artemis before on several occasions, and the urge to pay another visit is growing strong. In my previous visits, I have found that the fact that I am relatively new to punting (about 15 girls in total) often causes me to be quite passive during encounters. Letting the girls take charge and set the pace. This is not what I am like in real life when having sex with a long-time partner; with those I tend to be the one in control, who decides what to do and how, etc.
By their nature, punting encounters are different. You negotiate what's on the menu, what the price is, how long. What I want to ask is if there are other punters here who like me want to feel dominant and in charge, and whether you have had any luck meeting girls who are good at following directions and being submissive during sex? I struck gold only one time out of sheer luck with a Belarusian girl called Aida many years ago, and that was spectacular. Some of the best sex I ever had. Have you got any suggestions as to whom I should ask for, or how I should present my case to the ladies or make a selection?
What I'm after is nothing extreme. Just a submissive girl who can let me fuck her throat and / or ass in dominant fashion, maybe take a smack on the butt and a little hair-pulling. Any suggestions are welcome.
[QUOTE=NickZausman;2814468]Is it possible to wear a hat and sunglasses in Artemis?[/QUOTE]Only German undercover Neonazi Cops wearing hat and sunglasses at the same time while hanging in puff. So you need to make a choice, glasses or hat. If you are in the main disco area, I recommend the sunglasses, just to see more!
If it is sunny and you are hanging outside by the pool, I allow you to wear both, you know, it is all about to protect your self from skincancer! It's climate change and global colding out there, sun is killing Germans wealth!
If you are a celebrity, you can also let yourself a beard grow, no one would recognise you, but make sure you don't look like Selenskyi or Weber from CSU.
If you want to act like you are blind and you want to come around with the good old trick: "Sorry miss, I am blind and I need to touch your boobs just to feel how big the cup is. Forget it! This isn't working anymore, I tried it a million times.
How bots fuck is still a secret.
I am interested in knowing what level of girls there are in the club, are they only silicone girls, or can you also find beautiful and natural girls? Also want to know if the service of 30/60 min include one cum, or can also get clean and continue for another one?
[QUOTE=NickZausman;2815808]I am interested in knowing what level of girls there are in the club, are they only silicone girls, or can you also find beautiful and natural girls? Also want to know if the service of 30/60 min include one cum, or can also get clean and continue for another one?[/QUOTE]I expect Artemis is like all popular FKKs in the respect of finding natural girls. With respect to multiple pops you should discuss this with the girl before committing. My own personal opinion is that one should be enough in a 30 minute booking for everyone. 60 minutes fair enough, but not 30.
[QUOTE=NickZausman;2815808]Also want to know if the service of 30/60 min include one cum, or can also get clean and continue for another one?[/QUOTE]You're allowed to cum once in a 30 minute session, but you'll (usual) not be forced to leave imm after your cumshot in case time is left. Multiple cumshots allowed in a longer session only.
[QUOTE=NickZausman;2815808]I am interested in knowing what level of girls there are in the club, are they only silicone girls, or can you also find beautiful and natural girls? Also want to know if the service of 30/60 min include one cum, or can also get clean and continue for another one?[/QUOTE]Listen! If you are 18 yo, you don't find young girls in Artemis. If you are 80 yo, you only find young women in Artemis. There are usually some under 30 years of age, some look like. If you wear your sun glasses, the number increases drastically, some suddenly look like mid Twenties!
You also find some with a natural personality.
I am sure you are able to pop once. I cross my fingers!
The stomach isn't usually as big as your eyes of fantasy.
I visited Artemis last month a couple of times. As expected the women are typically older than what you would find in Sharks, with more silicone and tattoos. Having said that, there is also a little more diversity in ethnic backgrounds. Some Hungarian, Bulgarian, Caribbean etc. As opposed to the 99.9% Romanian crowd in other clubs. What did come to be as a surprise was how this club which pre-covid and pre-bbj law was one of the more expensive clubs has now become one of the most cost effective. My minimum standard for a room is 30 minutes, bbj with CIM. At Sharks that would be EUR150. At Globe that would be CHF250. At Artemis, my floor is now at the low low price of EUR140. Who'da thunk Artemis prices would fall to the bottom of the pile.
[QUOTE=FakeIt;2816597]I visited Artemis last month a couple of times. As expected the women are typically older than what you would find in Sharks, with more silicone and tattoos. Having said that, there is also a little more diversity in ethnic backgrounds. Some Hungarian, Bulgarian, Caribbean etc. As opposed to the 99.9% Romanian crowd in other clubs. What did come to be as a surprise was how this club which pre-covid and pre-bbj law was one of the more expensive clubs has now become one of the most cost effective. My minimum standard for a room is 30 minutes, bbj with CIM. At Sharks that would be EUR150. At Globe that would be CHF250. At Artemis, my floor is now at the low low price of EUR140. Who'da thunk Artemis prices would fall to the bottom of the pile.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with this! Being 40+ myself, I really don't caee if the girl is 25 or 35. She's still young to me. And, vertainly there are also some of the younger age group at Artemis as well. Ethnic diversity is a big plus for me. Artemis was the first place I met German ladies. Granted, I have only been to Mainhattan and Sharks in the past.
I also noticed that effective cost is really a bit lower at Artemis than at the Frankfurt clubs. My standard is CBJ, CFS and DATY. The girls I met at Artemis would charge the base of 70€ for this service. In Frankfurt, the addition of DATY has always put me at 100€.
Thus, I am now more inclined to visit Berlin rather than Frankfurt for mongering purposes.
Of course, opinions may vary but this is mine.
[QUOTE=FakeIt;2816597] Having said that, there is also a little more diversity in ethnic backgrounds. Some Hungarian, Bulgarian, Caribbean etc. As opposed to the 99.9% Romanian crowd in other clubs.[/QUOTE]Just out of curiosity, have you been to Oase? If yes, how is the diversity there in comparison?
[QUOTE=FakeIt;2816597]I visited Artemis last month a couple of times...
At Artemis, my floor is now at the low low price of EUR140. Who'da thunk Artemis prices would fall to the bottom of the pile.[/QUOTE]Don't forget the entry fee. First you need to pay more, to pay less.
Could be also irony.
[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2816896]Just out of curiosity, have you been to Oase? If yes, how is the diversity there in comparison?[/QUOTE]For German girls, I m pretty sure best place is Sharks, better than Globe. Oase is almost Romania.
Saturday Morning was a slight exictement: After over 3 years without visiting Art, I prepared to drop by to this nice place for one night.
I arrived in the new Berlin Airport: Willy Brandt. I searched the public transports and after I made some mistakes, I realized there are 2 main ways to go to my final destination: a train with the direction to Sdkreuz and a second train go to Ostbahnhof. Once at one of those stop, change to another city transport and get off at Westkreuz.
I presented myself at the front desk and the cashier regonized me: Hey! How are you, it's been a long time, are you here for one night as always?
We chatted a bit and she gave me straigth a red bathrobe. The fellas before me and after me, wore a grey bathrobe. Thus I can confirm there is a dress code, because most of the men wore a grey bathrobe and a few had the red one.
I took off my cloths and put on the bathrobe and started to look around to see if something is new. I reached the lounge and a Dominican lady waved her hand to me. We know each other since I started to come in Art. We discussed about our respective lives. She told me many women stopped after covid, and other had babies or stayed out of the business.
I scanned the place, I realized I knew the face of 90% of the ladies, the part of German women (Native or born in Germany) decreased, the majority of the women are coming from Romania / Hungaria / Bulgaria. Their trend is plastic boobs, reshaped lips. There is a small crew of latinas which is a mix of veterans and few new faces or young blood. The atmosphere was more calm then before. No crowdy place, no traffic jams.
I decided to invit a young Dominican girl in a room. I could feel she is new, we talked a mix of Spanish and English. She begun with the classic BJ, she asked me if I wanted BBJ, I replied: let's stay on CBJ. I wouldn't like to negotiate too much.
We passed to the action and it was nice but not fantastic. I gave her 70 her and I went to do some workout in the sport room.
I had dinner then I relaxed a bit, until I met a Kenyan girl with a nice round ass.
When we arrived in the room she started to propose me upsell option. I told her: this is my first time with her, and I want to know if the chemistry will work before I extend.
Despite I was excited I stayed soft and I shortened the fuck. We debated on the reasons why I was soft, we thought it might be the combination of digestion + rest after sport (I'm not qualified for the real reasons).
I went outside many times to take a breath of fresh air, there were a lot of pole dance sessions (compare to precovid) in order to keep the animation up. Around 1 am I wondered who could be my third shot, and I picked a white colombiana with big ass.
In the zimmer, she caressed my chest and kissed me (I spread on my body coconut oil+vanilla essence), the she said 90 for BBJ+fuck.
I told her: I can't pay 20 for a peice of plastic, you you to offer me more within this scope, so we agreed pussy leaking, finger in this ass and DFK. This session was the best of the night.
After I had a new shower, I found out a place for sleeping in the kino upstair. Few minutes later, a guy came next to me for a 69 with a girl, I walked away and ended up in the lounge, watching another lap dance show.
I finaly noticed a German lady I knew, we talked about the old days, and she admited Art isn't good as before, and many regular customers say it as well.
10 minutes after I walked to another German woman and she said to me straight: NO. (Actualy it's been at least 4 years that I have tried to be with her, she refused me in Atmos, Babylon and in Art).
When she declined brutaly my invitation, I swaped the cloths and I left Art around 3. 30 the taxi drive me back to the airport for 70.
I will come back in Art but not as often as before, maybe twice a year max. I'll keep reding the reports to evaluate if it will be still worth.
We are a matured 55+and 45+ married cpl from India. Visiting Berlin on 26,27th July and then proceed to Paris on 28th July.
She's a hotwife, hure also a dominatrix for submissive men.
Looking for a educated, reasonably well to do man who can host us and take us around and have fun. Do DM.
[QUOTE=FckMyWife;2822904]Looking for a educated, reasonably well to do man who can host us and take us around and have fun. Do DM.[/QUOTE]Ninja looking for tall, educated, and wealthy busty blond woman, 30-40 who can host him in Berlin, maybe for 5 years to start. PM with photo and bank statement.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2823602]Ninja looking for tall, educated, and wealthy busty blond woman, 30-40 who can host him in Berlin, maybe for 5 years to start. PM with photo and bank statement.[/QUOTE]You will find them in FKK just go there every day for next 5 years.
[b]That's it.[/b]
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[b]And that's all??!!![/b]
Ludicrously low settlement given what a shit show this was.
Visited Artemis on Wednesday 7th of June. Great weather, 27 degrees and sunny.
Arrived 11.15 paid my 90€ and showered up.
Went to chill by the outside pool and it was great. Good music and a self-service drinks station.
Roomed with:
Raissa. Ro, brunette, amazing fit tanned body with defined abs. Provided a solid and professional service.
Jenny. De, black long hair, slim body with several large tattoos. Medium silicon tits. Fun attitude and a great room. Later had 3-some with Jenny and Leonie.
Leonie. De, GND, brunette with natural body. Got a really good feeling from her. My session with her was a 3-some with Jenny as they were hanging out together. Will want to meet her one on one sometime. My best FKK 3-some as it was quite dynamic and natural, maybe because the girls were friends.
Miriam. Ro, blonde very slim, natural small tits. Friendly but seemed a bit shy / distant. Maybe we didn't have the right chemistry.
All girls I roomed with were very attractive imo. There were more ladies that I could have roomed with but time, money and stamina sets limits.
At 17.30 there was barbecue by the pool. Better than indoor food. Barbecue is every Wednesday and Sunday when good weather.
Standard fee for girls is 70430, but I found it hard to get below 140430 as they did upsell quite a lot. But I was in a good mood and followed along, and had great rooms. I'm sure I could have stuck with 70 and got a solid CBJ / CFS experience.
Left at 20.00. During the time I was there, not too many clients. No queue for rooms and no problem finding the girl you looked for.
This was my third visit to Artemis and I like the place. Will return, hopefully end of August (though some girls may be on vacation at that time).
Visited Artemis on Wednesday 7th of June. Great weather, 27 degrees and sunny.
Arrived 11.15 paid my 90€ and showered up.
Went to chill by the outside pool and it was great. Good music and a self-service drinks station.
Roomed with:
Raissa. Ro, brunette, amazing fit tanned body with defined abs. Provided a solid and professional service.
Jenny. De, black long hair, slim body with several large tattoos. Medium silicon tits. Fun attitude and a great room. Later had 3-some with Jenny and Leonie.
Leonie. De, GND, brunette with natural body. Got a really good feeling from her. My session with her was a 3-some with Jenny as they were hanging out together. Will want to meet her one on one sometime. My best FKK 3-some as it was quite dynamic and natural, maybe because the girls were friends.
Miriam. Ro, blonde very slim, natural small tits. Friendly but seemed a bit shy / distant. Maybe we didn't have the right chemistry.
All girls I roomed with were very attractive imo. There were more ladies that I could have roomed with but time, money and stamina sets limits.
At 17.30 there was barbecue by the pool. Better than indoor food. Barbecue is every Wednesday and Sunday when good weather.
Standard fee for girls is 70430, but I found it hard to get below 140430 as they did upsell quite a lot. But I was in a good mood and followed along, and had great rooms. I'm sure I could have stuck with 70 and got a solid CBJ / CFS experience.
Left at 20.00. During the time I was there, not too many clients. No queue for rooms and no problem finding the girl you looked for.
This was my third visit to Artemis and I like the place. Will return, hopefully end of August (though some girls may be on vacation at that time).
[QUOTE=NorthernSpirit;2825674]Standard fee for girls is 70430, but I found it hard to get below 140430 [/QUOTE]In town with indies or bordello, 140 can easily be 45 min - 1 hour with better looking girl. Another 25 for a good meal. So 165 for a session + meal (swimming free at lakes or 5. 50 at pool) vs A entrance and 30 min for 230!
Yes of course different atmosphere, and you can spread entrance over 3-5 sessions. But still.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2825967]In town with indies or bordello, 140 can easily be 45 min - 1 hour with better looking girl. Another 25 for a good meal. So 165 for a session + meal (swimming free at lakes or 5. 50 at pool) vs A entrance and 30 min for 230!
Yes of course different atmosphere, and you can spread entrance over 3-5 sessions. But still.[/QUOTE]Hey man! Thanks. Are the prices listed on sites such as Paris No. 5 the actual price, or just the starting point?
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2825967]In town with indies or bordello, 140 can easily be 45 min - 1 hour with better looking girl. Another 25 for a good meal. So 165 for a session + meal (swimming free at lakes or 5. 50 at pool) vs A entrance and 30 min for 230!
Yes of course different atmosphere, and you can spread entrance over 3-5 sessions. But still.[/QUOTE]For me the club atmosphere is worth a lot. Being able to chill poolside with naked / half naked beauties walking around is part of the experience, and for me worth the 90€ entry.
In all honesty, my sessions ended at 140€ as I opted for owo (20) and b2 b (50) which I enjoyed. Point was that there was some amount of upselling when at first asking just for bade 70430. I could have stood my ground, but not sure I'd be happier. Though I've had good 70430 sessions at Artemis in the past.
[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;2825987]Hey man! Thanks. Are the prices listed on sites such as Paris No. 5 the actual price, or just the starting point?[/QUOTE]This belongs in Berlin thread not here.
Continue there.
Hello,
I never visited Artemis. I have a question about girl's quality at Artemis in 2023. (Not service quality or character or work ethics, but looks and appearance).
Many reviews suggest the followings. Is this true?
Compared to Sharks / Samya:
- Overall quality is similar, but there is no stunner.
- More older girls ( 30) and fewer (23) girls.
- More diversity. More Non-Romanian girls and even some German girls.
- Pole dancing girl is pretty, but she is a hired dancer and you cannot take her to the room.
Is this correct? Of course it's somewhat subjective question, but your opinion helps.
(I am always surprised by that so many people care about price and service, but not talk about looks much, which is much more important for me).
Thanks!
[QUOTE=David1266;2826568]I am always surprised by that so many people care about price and service, but not talk about looks much, which is much more important for me.[/QUOTE]I haven't visited Artemis in a while, but I think your summary fits with what I have read here over the past couple of years.
As an experienced punter, looking back at previous encounters I tend to forget the looks of a girl I have been with, but remember the sex acts and how they made me feel. I remember an encounter with a gorgeous Italian girl who had good deepthroat skills but a pretty bad attitude and no connection more with a sense of frustration and irritation than positive feelings. I remember encounters with less attractive girls who I had great chemistry with or who gave good service with much more fondness. I treasure those encounters.
One encounter with a girl who was really compatible with myself in terms of French kissing style and who I interacted with easily and with very little sense that the encounter was a transaction of service in exchange for money (I. E. Something perhaps best described as a girlfriend experience) is my fondest memory by far. And her looks had very little to do with it. She was attractive, but not more than an 7 or 7.5 for me personally. I would 100 x rather repeat with her than with any 9-10 girl who had a bad attitude.
I used to select primarily by looks, but I have come to realize that selecting by how you interact and communicate with a girl is a better strategy for me personally. But to each his own. I don't mind spending €100 now and then to shoot my load over the face of a pretty blond 18-20 yo "optifick" with a bad attitude. That kind of experience also has its charm.
[QUOTE=David1266;2826568]Hello,
I never visited Artemis. I have a question about girl's quality at Artemis in 2023. (Not service quality or character or work ethics, but looks and appearance).
Many reviews suggest the followings. Is this true?
Compared to Sharks / Samya:
- Overall quality is similar, but there is no stunner.
- More older girls ( 30) and fewer (23) girls.
- More diversity. More Non-Romanian girls and even some German girls.
- Pole dancing girl is pretty, but she is a hired dancer and you cannot take her to the room.
Is this correct? Of course it's somewhat subjective question, but your opinion helps.
(I am always surprised by that so many people care about price and service, but not talk about looks much, which is much more important for me).
Thanks![/QUOTE]Looks are always subjective imo. My latest visit to Artemis there for sure were 9-10's. Raissa (Ro) for example, never seen such a flawless body, also pretty face. Of course she has enhanced boobs, so if that's not your thing you may differ. Also she's 30+ (bit imo could go for 27-28). Also Miriam (Ro), blonde all natural stunner around 22-23 (I think). Both girls are (very) slim. If you like curves, other girls will be your preference.
If your preference is the slim eastern european girl, you will have bigger selection eg at Sharks (never visited Samya). But there definitely are great looking girls at Artemis.
Don't know about pole dancer girl, never seen anyone professionally dance at the pole.
[QUOTE=NorthernSpirit;2826772]Don't know about pole dancer girl, never seen anyone professionally dance at the pole.[/QUOTE]Following to your last report, you left at 8 pm. Poledance starts at 10 pm. You can't take the dancers upstairs in the room, they're professional artists booked by Artemis' management.
[QUOTE=NorthernSpirit;2826772]Looks are always subjective imo. My latest visit to Artemis there for sure were 9-10's. Raissa (Ro) for example, never seen such a flawless body, also pretty face. Of course she has enhanced boobs, so if that's not your thing you may differ. Also she's 30+ (bit imo could go for 27-28).[/QUOTE]I wonder if there's any chance at all if this could be the same "Raissa" from Romania who I met a Samya a few years ago. The girls do move around. She was so, so beautiful, and I couldn't keep my eyes off of her. Dark hair, pretty face, white-skinned with perfect body to my liking. I don't remember her tits being enhanced, but of course the girls do get boob jobs as well. Had to take her to the zimmer to fuck! And she was good at the GFE too putting her arms around me and DFKing saying that she loved me! I decided to play along and said I loved her too. I normally prefer the PSE but with a girl like Raissa with her good looks the GFE was on! Afterwards she wanted to know if I would give her my watch. I was like GTFOH! The fucking and "play acting" is over! You didn't think I meant that shit did you? Well, I didn't actually say all that LMAO. I just said, "No"! LOL! As we were getting dressed she said that my dick had "hurt her babies" LOLOLOL! Somebody find out if this "Raissa" at Artemis used to work at Samya will you?
[QUOTE=TheCane;2826923]I wonder if there's any chance at all if this could be the same "Raissa" from Romania who I met a Samya a few years ago. The girls do move around. She was so, so beautiful, and I couldn't keep my eyes off of her. Dark hair, pretty face, white-skinned with perfect body to my liking. I don't remember her tits being enhanced, but of course the girls do get boob jobs as well. Had to take her to the zimmer to fuck! And she was good at the GFE too putting her arms around me and DFKing saying that she loved me! I decided to play along and said I loved her too. I normally prefer the PSE but with a girl like Raissa with her good looks the GFE was on! Afterwards she wanted to know if I would give her my watch. I was like GTFOH! The fucking and "play acting" is over! You didn't think I meant that shit did you? Well, I didn't actually say all that LMAO. I just said, "No"! LOL! As we were getting dressed she said that my dick had "hurt her babies" LOLOLOL! Somebody find out if this "Raissa" at Artemis used to work at Samya will you?[/QUOTE]I don't know whether the Raissa currently at Artemis was previously at Samya.
I heard from a friend that Raissa used to be at Artemis also pre-pandemic.
In my rooms with her, there was no GFE, but I also didn't ask for it. This Raissa is brunette and very tanned with visible abs. Normal polite chit chat in the room, and her watch was leagues nicer than my casio.
[QUOTE=NorthernSpirit;2827003]I heard from a friend that Raissa used to be at Artemis also pre-pandemic.[/QUOTE]AFAIR she's at A since 2016 at least. She herself told me once, she's started working at A in 2013.
[QUOTE=Wikman;2826685]I haven't visited Artemis in a while, but I think your summary fits with what I have read here over the past couple of years.
As an experienced punter, looking back at previous encounters I tend to forget the looks of a girl I have been with, but remember the sex acts and how they made me feel. I remember an encounter with a gorgeous Italian girl who had good deepthroat skills but a pretty bad attitude and no connection more with a sense of frustration and irritation than positive feelings. I remember encounters with less attractive girls who I had great chemistry with or who gave good service with much more fondness. I treasure those encounters.
One encounter with a girl who was really compatible with myself in terms of French kissing style and who I interacted with easily and with very little sense that the encounter was a transaction of service in exchange for money (I. E. Something perhaps best described as a girlfriend experience) is my fondest memory by far. And her looks had very little to do with it. She was attractive, but not more than an 7 or 7.5 for me personally. I would 100 x rather repeat with her than with any 9-10 girl who had a bad attitude.
I used to select primarily by looks, but I have come to realize that selecting by how you interact and communicate with a girl is a better strategy for me personally. But to each his own. I don't mind spending 100 now and then to shoot my load over the face of a pretty blond 18-20 yo "optifick" with a bad attitude. That kind of experience also has its charm.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much. This is all interesting because I am completely opposite. I much prefer a 7=8 girl with "bad" attitude than 5-6 girl with super nice personality (I never seen 9-10 girls for past 2 years). This is because I actually enjoy to develop emotional connection from someone who is not nice to me at first. This is similar to the situation that most Romantic Comedy movies start with bad first encounter, and then they develop chemistry and connection. Also, probably my bar is set low, but I honestly never met awful or bad girls at FKK (so far). Yes, there are some girls who are tired and lazy and want to finish after 10 minutes, but these girls are young and some girls work like 12 hours, so if that's the case, I simply ask "Would you like finish in 15 minutes for half price? So I don't see big difference in personalities, but I do see a huge difference in external attractiveness, so I that's I look for.
[QUOTE=NorthernSpirit;2826772]Looks are always subjective imo. My latest visit to Artemis there for sure were 9-10's. Raissa (Ro) for example, never seen such a flawless body, also pretty face. Of course she has enhanced boobs, so if that's not your thing you may differ. Also she's 30+ (bit imo could go for 27-28). Also Miriam (Ro), blonde all natural stunner around 22-23 (I think). Both girls are (very) slim. If you like curves, other girls will be your preference.
If your preference is the slim eastern european girl, you will have bigger selection eg at Sharks (never visited Samya). But there definitely are great looking girls at Artemis.
Don't know about pole dancer girl, never seen anyone professionally dance at the pole.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much for your info. I am not interested in fake boobs, but I will look for Miriam then. Thank you!
[QUOTE=David1266;2827317]Thanks very much for your info. I am not interested in fake boobs, but I will look for Miriam then. Thank you![/QUOTE]Hello.
FYI Miriam is one of the worst girl I been in room with at Artemis. She has the look yes, but it was waste of money and time. She changes attitude complitely in room from good to bad.
[QUOTE=Nikolaj;2828281]Hello.
FYI Miriam is one of the worst girl I been in room with at Artemis. She has the look yes, but it was waste of money and time. She changes attitude complitely in room from good to bad.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I have a very high tolerance for bad attitude and service, while low tolerance for appearance, so I am still interested in Miriam "a stunner".
[QUOTE=Nikolaj;2828281]Hello.
FYI Miriam is one of the worst girl I been in room with at Artemis. She has the look yes, but it was waste of money and time. She changes attitude complitely in room from good to bad.[/QUOTE]I agree. Would not repeat with Miriam. She wasn't rude or anything, and she delivered the services as agreed, but she was very "unengaged". Mechanical service and nothing more.
But she has the looks.
Halo.
Does anybody know if the blonde German girl Pia / Paia is still at Artemis? I had 10+ rooms with her in 2019 and was amazing. Hope she is still working.
Going to be back to FKK finally after 3 years and hope to see many of the fine people and grab some large beers!
Katarina (from Bulgaria) is imo the most attractive girl at Artemis 2023, Miriam also gorgeous, but she is obviously detached; Eomi maybe the cutest among the stunners but slightly less stunning and more girl next door.
[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2829965]Does anybody know if the blonde German girl Pia / Paia is still at Artemis?![/QUOTE]IMHO she's not there.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2830004]IMHO she's not there.[/QUOTE]Thank You Phrarisaer. Does Artemis have any other German blondes like her? Or is it better to go to Sharks for German contingent?
[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2830049]Does Artemis have any other German blondes like her?[/QUOTE]Blondes are Anya (inked arm and shoulder) or Vicky (inked back). If you're more into the curvy ones: Madeleine. All of them use to sit on the first chair lefthandside entering the main bar from the big stairs. - Haven't been at Sharks for years, can't compare.
Anyone seen Debbie (DE / TUR) from pre Covid days? Neat, sweat, and petite.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2830847]Anyone seen Debbie (DE / TUR) from pre Covid days? Neat, sweat, and petite.[/QUOTE]Can't reply your PM. - Unfortunately she's gone.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2830847]Anyone seen Debbie (DE / TUR) from pre Covid days? Neat, sweat, and petite.[/QUOTE]She doesn't work in Artemis anymore. But she still works in this job (southern Germany).
[QUOTE=SuppenHuhn;2831201]She doesn't work in Artemis anymore. But she still works in this job (southern Germany).[/QUOTE]Ninja thank Pharisaer and you both.
Made 1st trip to A in almost 4 years. See old friends, nice pool.
But the line up really really bad. Kind of shocked. Left early and ungepopped. Could be summer duldrums but Ninja there over 10 years, know which days, which hours, always found 2-5 worthy of stairway to heaven. This time 0.
Sorry to say but private bordellos and flats much better choices. And far less expensive.
Are the ladies OK with outside / public sex, or is the outside area too small?
Gentlemen, does anyone know if Anya still in Artemis?
[QUOTE=Samcik;2833225]Gentlemen, does anyone know if Anya still in Artemis?[/QUOTE]She's there.
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2833207]Are the ladies OK with outside / public sex, or is the outside area too small?[/QUOTE]Hard to find such a lady. You'll find two kinda tents outside, maybe they will agree to fuck there. Just ask in advance. Don't pay extra.
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2833207]Are the ladies OK with outside / public sex, or is the outside area too small?[/QUOTE]You can have public sex in the cinemas.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2831811]Ninja thank Pharisaer and you both.
Made 1st trip to A in almost 4 years. See old friends, nice pool.
But the line up really really bad. Kind of shocked. Left early and ungepopped. Could be summer duldrums but Ninja there over 10 years, know which days, which hours, always found 2-5 worthy of stairway to heaven. This time 0.
Sorry to say but private bordellos and flats much better choices. And far less expensive.[/QUOTE]I made a short visit to Frankfurt & Berlin in October. The Oase visit was disappointing but at least I had 2 pops. Spoiled by the Romanian mafia who continually complained about my turning them down. I like a GF experience and I could tell that they were more into upselling minimal performances. The 2 Thai I went with were hands on beforehand and very responsive in the room.
Artemis was extremely disappointing. About 6 girls hunting without success and the better girls did not make it downstairs. Punters queueing and first time ever I saw punters outbidding each other.
Any recommendations as to fall back?
[QUOTE=PeterTaylor;2837057]I made a short visit to Frankfurt & Berlin in October. ...Any recommendations as to fall back?[/QUOTE]So you wait 9 months to tell mostly of experience at Oase, and quick bad time at A, and then use phrase "as to fall back" that to say gently, is unclear. No idea why or what you want?
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2837165]So you wait 9 months to tell mostly of experience at Oase, and quick bad time at A, and then use phrase "as to fall back" that to say gently, is unclear. No idea why or what you want?[/QUOTE]Apologies, I thought I had posted at the time. Senility on way.
Looking for an alternate to Artemis as paying 90 euros to have some nice food and leave with smoke inhalation and full balls is untenable.
[QUOTE=PeterTaylor;2837333]Looking for an alternate to Artemis as paying 90 euros to have some nice food and leave with smoke inhalation and full balls is untenable.[/QUOTE]So entire ISG thread on Berlin with 8300+ reports on alternatives. See also berlinintim. De, the Berlin 101 report (Charlie123). All the bigger apartment bordellos normally have 10-15 girls. How to manage, current prices, all discussed for many years. A small effort needed.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2837367]So entire ISG thread on Berlin with 8300+ reports on alternatives. See also berlinintim. De, the Berlin 101 report (Charlie123). All the bigger apartment bordellos normally have 10-15 girls. How to manage, current prices, all discussed for many years. A small effort needed.[/QUOTE]Sir, just so you know that, because the LU quality of girl and price change dramatically and quickly (even month to month), old information is not so useful and I always find the latest information on this forum is very useful. Especially because the question about FKK is X-rated and Google / ChatGPT won't give you an answer.
[QUOTE=David1266;2837613]Sir, just so you know that, because the LU quality of girl and price change dramatically and quickly (even month to month), old information is not so useful and I always find the latest information on this forum is very useful.[/QUOTE]Ninja not yet received his knighthood so Sir premature. You misunderstood comment. It was / is simply for anyone interested in alternatives in Berlin to Artemis, there is entire ISG thread on Berlin. Whether it is up to date is another matter. Local German threads very useful.
ChatGPT best used with newest generation of cyberdolls, locations mentioned on BerlinIntim.
[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2837367]So entire ISG thread on Berlin with 8300+ reports on alternatives. See also berlinintim. De, the Berlin 101 report (Charlie123). All the bigger apartment bordellos normally have 10-15 girls. How to manage, current prices, all discussed for many years. A small effort needed.[/QUOTE]Thanks Ninja for your "helpful" post. You are clearly a man of leisure as you spend so much time being unhelpful.
It may have escaped one's notice that the bulk of the thousands of reports on other Berlin offerings are very out of date.
Thanks again for your unhelpful input.
P.
[QUOTE=PeterTaylor;2838141]Thanks Ninja for your "helpful" post. You are clearly a man of leisure as you spend so much time being unhelpful.P.[/QUOTE]Ninja pointed you (looking for alternative to Artemis) to ISG Berlin thread, and 2 key local links. Berlin thread, most recent 4-5 pages, gives some ideas. Local German sites much more.
If you choose to ignore all this, your choice. All Ninja can do as he must return now to life of leisure.
[QUOTE=PeterTaylor;2837333] Looking for an alternate to Artemis as paying 90 euros to have some nice food and leave with smoke inhalation and full balls is untenable.[/QUOTE]Recommendations are basically difficult. The situation in Berlin has changed so much in the last 2 years that there are hardly any good women left. The best recommendation is to avoid Pay6 in Berlin.
The best information can still be found in the Lusthaus forum (in German). However, it is very difficult to filter and evaluate the information, for me personally almost impossible. Berlinintim are only ads. The majority of the photographs are old, extremely photoshopped or fake. You do not get what you see.
If you are still looking in Berlin, you should post a specific request with preferences in the Berlin thread a few days before. Maybe you will get a recommendation then.
[QUOTE=Trader80;2839284]Recommendations are basically difficult. The situation in Berlin has changed so much in the last 2 years that there are hardly any good women left. The best recommendation is to avoid Pay6 in Berlin.
The best information can still be found in the Lusthaus forum (in German). However, it is very difficult to filter and evaluate the information, for me personally almost impossible. Berlinintim are only ads. The majority of the photographs are old, extremely photoshopped or fake. You do not get what you see.
If you are still looking in Berlin, you should post a specific request with preferences in the Berlin thread a few days before. Maybe you will get a recommendation then.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the very helpful post.
I will do as you suggest.
Peter.
I'm very familiar with German FKK scene, mostly from experience in Frankfurt. However, been away from Germany in while. Apparently Artemis is the only game in town so I had to knock it off my bucket list.
Place is clean and well maintained. Two electronic lockers available, one for valuables and a bigger one for clothes. Men wear robe provided at entrance, ladies are all nude. Multiple saunas, a hot tub, swimming pool, small gym with mostly weights are among amenities.
Buffet was decent and frequently replenished, with chicken, beef, vegetarian something and plenty of salad options, plus some yogurt and dessert all part of entry fee. Not better or worse than I've seen elsewhere. Soft drinks included in entry fee, alcohol was 10 euros each.
The bar area where most people were had a live strip show for most of the night. One thing I didn't like is the smoking in the most important space available to size up talent. This can make it hard to properly mix and mingle given only desperate ladies seemed to venture out into the non smoking spaces to hassle prospects.
The place wasn't as busy as I had expected for a Fri night, considering it apparently lacks competition. I estimated about 30-35 ladies and maybe a similar number of men. Talent quality wasn't to my taste, most had fake titties, and quite a bunch had fake lips, too much of battle hardened lineup. However quite a few were hot, young and natural. Like other FKKs, most are Romanian.
I sessioned twice, with an exotic from S. America and a Romanian. Both were good considering the non GFE nature of such environment. Very good BBBJ, especially from the Romanian- she even offered light FK. Standard rate is e70 per session, but almost all ladies will upsell BBBJ for e20, some have additional options.
Overall a decent place to unwind, especially if you are a smoker.
[QUOTE=PeterTaylor;2838141] Looking for an alternate to Artemis as paying 90 euros to have some nice food and leave with smoke inhalation and full balls is untenable
P.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Trader80;2839284]Recommendations are basically difficult. The situation in Berlin has changed so much in the last 2 years that there are hardly any good women left. The best recommendation is to avoid Pay6 in Berlin.
The best information can still be found in the Lusthaus forum (in German). However, it is very difficult to filter and evaluate the information, for me personally almost impossible. Berlinintim are only ads. The majority of the photographs are old, extremely photoshopped or fake. You do not get what you see.
If you are still looking in Berlin, you should post a specific request with preferences in the Berlin thread a few days before. Maybe you will get a recommendation then.[/QUOTE]OK, Going to take a different tack, since your hesitation for Artemis is NOT the ladies but the cover price there is a trip report about 2? 3? months ago where someone went to the two Bordellos West of the City and didn't find the girl he wanted and then headed over to Artemis. This would give you an alternative to Artemis AND a back up. I've read reviews of both bordellos and others have had better luck!
I find Lusthaus to be very good as a fact checker for BerlinIntim ads. OTOH, if you just start in Lusthaus and read the Berlin sub thread, there are at least a half dozen ladies in Berlin who have good reviews in July. Several. If I remember- offer 30 minute sessions.
Again, it's hard to point you in any direction without having commonality in taste or knowing where you are staying. OK i just wandered over to Lusthaus and found 3 good reviews.... Luiza, Juliana, Anna Jackpot. A couple massage ladies etc. If you find them and think, nah, not my type, or too tall/too short etc, you'll realize why FKK recommendations make it easier to share.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2839410]One thing I didn't like is the smoking in the most important space available to size up talent. This can make it hard to properly mix and mingle given only desperate ladies seemed to venture out into the non smoking spaces to hassle prospects. Overall a decent place to unwind, especially if you are a smoker.[/QUOTE]I agree that the cigarette smoke in Artemis can be absolutely, chokingly awful! Especially in the winter time when they don't want to open the windows because the girls complain about being cold. What about the fucking customers whose money pays the bills? I even got sick once from breathing in too much cigarette smoke in this place. Did you go downstairs at all? You can get away from the worst of the smoke that way. Or maybe sit in the chairs closest to the where the food is (can't call it a restaurant because it isn't LOL). There may be fewer girls circulating around down there, but I have met some hotties leading to good sessions, including getting sucked in the kino.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2839410]I'm very familiar with German FKK scene, mostly from experience in Frankfurt. However, been away from Germany in while. Apparently Artemis is the only game in town so I had to knock it off my bucket list.
Standard rate is e70 per session, but almost all ladies will upsell BBBJ for e20, some have additional options. [/QUOTE]E70 is great compared to Frankfurt's e100.
Hi, does it make sense visiting Artemis in early hours (11 am - 4 pm)? How is the line up at these times? How many girls and customers? Is it right to assume that girls will be more relaxed and nicer?
[QUOTE=SanPedro;2839762]Hi, does it make sense visiting Artemis in early hours (11 am - 4 pm)? How is the line up at these times? How many girls and customers? Is it right to assume that girls will be more relaxed and nicer?[/QUOTE]Normally very dead these times, like 10 on both sides. Weak line up. Girls relaxed but also bored. You may get lucky, or not. Line up weak anyway -see reports here and in local German thread Lusthaus. If you go early, best is hang a bit but prepare to leave for some hours and return after 20:00. You check out at desk and can return for free. But really not worth it til end of August with so many on holidays. Choices much better in private flats.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2839410]
However quite a few were hot, young and natural. Like other FKKs, most are Romanian.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the report. What other nationalities were there apart from Romanians? Any local girls?
Maybe it's just my lack of techno knowledge. But I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong on the Lusthaus website. Under the Berlin section, when I click on it, it's just a blank page. Sometimes I can view a posting when it's in German, but I know fuck-all German. But even just now, even in German, the page shows up blank. I scroll down and see nothing but white. People reference this site for info on FKK, kino, etc. , and it's driving me crazy that I can't see anything. What am I doing wrong? Is it my own browser setting or is there a magic button on Lusthaus that allows you to see the posts? Yes, I am logged in and registered. Is it a matter of paying a fee? I'll be in Berlin in a week and the info on ISG is thin or outdated. Hitting desperation mode. I appreciate the help brothers.
[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2841566]Thank you for the report. What other nationalities were there apart from Romanians? Any local girls?[/QUOTE]I only identified and interacted with 1 German, blond, but she was not a looker in my books. There was 1 African lady, a couple from Brazil, 1 said she was from Macedonia. Rest from Romania.
[QUOTE=EdwardQ;2841594]Maybe it's just my lack of techno knowledge. But I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong on the Lusthaus website. Under the Berlin section, when I click on it, it's just a blank page. Sometimes I can view a posting when it's in German, but I know fuck-all German. But even just now, even in German, the page shows up blank. I scroll down and see nothing but white. People reference this site for info on FKK, kino, etc. , and it's driving me crazy that I can't see anything. What am I doing wrong? Is it my own browser setting or is there a magic button on Lusthaus that allows you to see the posts? Yes, I am logged in and registered. Is it a matter of paying a fee? I'll be in Berlin in a week and the info on ISG is thin or outdated. Hitting desperation mode. I appreciate the help brothers.[/QUOTE]I had the same experience with my browser. You need to scroll way to the the right. The translated reviews will be bunched in a narrow strip on that side.
I don't think you need to register to use the site.
[QUOTE=EdwardQ;2841594]I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong on the Lusthaus website. Under the Berlin section, when I click on it, it's just a blank page. Sometimes I can view a posting when it's in German, but I know fuck-all German. But even just now, even in German, the page shows up blank. [/QUOTE]Not the place for this (vs. Berlin thread) and not place for tech help. On Lusthaus, no fee needed, not even registration needed. You must have script or add blocker on and it / they are set wrong. Can be extensions. Can be add blocking from inside browser (depends on which you use). Disable all and re-try. Some allow whitelisting of sites-also an option. Do simple search on "(X browser-use actual name) blocking website display" and see tips. If important enough, test on new browser. Continue in Berlin thread if no success.
This is the best brothel I have been to which doesn't mean much since I have only been to a few. But it blows away anything in Tijuana. I loved lounging at the pool and of course having sex. First girl I fucked we did it in the movie theatre room near the bar. It was 90 euro for sex, kissing and BBBJ. I was fucking her on one of those beds while porn was playing on the big screen. Then some guy came in and started watching me fuck her. He started playing with himself and me and him locked eyes as I am fucking her doggy.
I fucked another girl for 100 euro after, blonde girl from russia. She was ok, sort of mechanical but that's fine.
I are eally enjoyed this place and wish I went earlier in the day so I could hang out longer. I will visit again the next time I am in Berlin. I also will go to kitkat.
[QUOTE=Clone8884;2841831]This is the best brothel I have been to which doesn't mean much since I have only been to a few. But it blows away anything in Tijuana. I loved lounging at the pool and of course having sex. First girl I fucked we did it in the movie theatre room near the bar. It was 90 euro for sex, kissing and BBBJ. I was fucking her on one of those beds while porn was playing on the big screen. Then some guy came in and started watching me fuck her. He started playing with himself and me and him locked eyes as I am fucking her doggy.
I fucked another girl for 100 euro after, blonde girl from russia. She was ok, sort of mechanical but that's fine.
I are eally enjoyed this place and wish I went earlier in the day so I could hang out longer. I will visit again the next time I am in Berlin. I also will go to kitkat.[/QUOTE]Same here. Germany Tiguana.
What other clubs have you been to in Europe? Try Sharks Frankfurt if you haven't already.
Make sure to follow the dress code for KitKat and line up early if you are going on a Saturday.
Went to Artemis yesterday, 1st time in Berlin.
The club is very nice, large, has great facilities and nice food. I liked the club.
The girls though. What a train wreck. Ranging from 3 to 6, with an occasional 7. Very poor lineup.
I chose one of the 6's and took her to the room, which was very nice. But she wasn't nice at all. She has her "routine" where she wastes all the time, doesn't let you touch her properly (I'm not a GFE type but can I at least gently caress her body? Shouts at you in Romanian and bosses you around.
I just wanted her to lay down and let me touch her. This modest request ended in Romanian shouting and me leaving the room without even getting hard.
She then "explained" it's normal here and in Berlin as well. I believe her since there were many locals in the club and they know what to expect.
5 stars for the club.
0 stars for the girls.
If this is by any way normal in Berlin, don't even come to this city.
Not even close to Frankfurt / Cologne.
I wish you got her name. I'm at Artemis now and would like to avoid her. So far, I agree with what you said. Not a great lineup. Especially after seeing Sharks and Oase. And also coming from Thailand. It could be the timing, as I got here at 4:30 pm. Hopefully, things will pick up after 6 pm. I can't even enjoy the food because there's no food served between 3 pm-6 pm. In the meantime, I'll look through this thread and see if there are any notable mentions.
[QUOTE=JimmyBowl;2842668]Went to Artemis yesterday, 1st time in Berlin.
The club is very nice, large, has great facilities and nice food. I liked the club.
The girls though. What a train wreck. Ranging from 3 to 6, with an occasional 7. Very poor lineup.
I chose one of the 6's and took her to the room, which was very nice. But she wasn't nice at all. She has her "routine" where she wastes all the time, doesn't let you touch her properly (I'm not a GFE type but can I at least gently caress her body? Shouts at you in Romanian and bosses you around.
I just wanted her to lay down and let me touch her. This modest request ended in Romanian shouting and me leaving the room without even getting hard.
She then "explained" it's normal here and in Berlin as well. I believe her since there were many locals in the club and they know what to expect.
5 stars for the club.
0 stars for the girls.
If this is by any way normal in Berlin, don't even come to this city.
Not even close to Frankfurt / Cologne.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kib123;2841639]I had the same experience with my browser. You need to scroll way to the the right. The translated reviews will be bunched in a narrow strip on that side.
I don't think you need to register to use the site.[/QUOTE]Thank you for helping me solve the strange problem on Lusthaus. That was the problem. Just scrolled to the right and the info is there. I appreciate the help. Have a good one.
EQ.
TL; DR. Skip Artemis. Go to Sharks or Oase instead.
I think locals tend to get sick of the same talent. And the talent probably gets sick of seeing the same locals over and over again. Which is why in a lot of ISG threads, you'll see complaint after complaint. Of how good things used to be and how everything went downhill. You see it in the Thailand threads, Oase, and Sharks threads, too. But I had great times in all 3. So I was hopeful of Artemis. I was sorely mistaken. Huge waste of time and money.
I got to Artemis at an odd time - 4:30 PM. Many of the best talents haven't started yet (night shift). And food isn't served (breakfast is 11 am-3 pm, dinner is 6 pm-2 am). So I just wait around, look around for an HR and a half until dinner time. There were probably a total of 20-30 girls. Most were not very good. Huge implants, large lip injections. Nobody really piqued my interest. Someone told me it starts to pick up at 8 pm. So I had dinner at 6 pm. Half the girls came out to eat, too. Selection was absolutely dismal. There might've been a couple 7's. After dinner, I just lingered til 8 pm.
At 8 pm, some hotties came. But so did the customers. It felt like a 1:1 ratio. The problem is, everyone is after the hottie. There might've been 1 or 2 9's, but they were sought after left and right. The better looking girls don't need to do any work. They just sit there and the customers will walk up to them. If the girls can't put in the most basic effort to walk up to a customer, I cringe to think how it'd be in the sack. The few I talked to, I didn't feel very good chemistry with, so I passed. This happened until about 9:30. I was just about ready to call it quits. I decided to take one more look around and found an older (37) lady that reminded me of Salma Hayek. I normally wouldn't find her very attractive, but I didn't want to leave completely empty handed. I walked up to her, she asked if I wanted to go upstairs. I confirmed 70 E and we went up. The sex was pretty vanilla without any extras (e. G. DFK, BBBJ). Condom was applied immediately at the start, before I had a chance to get erect. CBJ was OK. Not much intimacy. Basic positions. RCG, MISH, K9 to finish. This was more of a desperation fuck at this point. Gave her the 70 E and left.
It wasn't the worst session I've ever had. But it can be considered a waste of time compared to Oase and Sharks. Now I'm worried how Amsterdam will be. I'll be going in a couple days and all I see are reviews on how people get scammed and how bad things have gotten. I'm only spending 3 days there before heading to Antwerp where I'll spend another 3 days.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2842838]TL; DR. Skip Artemis. Go to Sharks or Oase instead.[/QUOTE]It is normal. Most of Berlin away til end of month on holidays. Men also, so market is depressed. There is always a summer downturn. Since forever. That said, no question A lineup gotten worse. Posted before. Makes no sense til Sept.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2842838] … Now I'm worried how Amsterdam will be. I'll be going in a couple days and all I see are reviews on how people get scammed and how bad things have gotten. I'm only spending 3 days there before heading to Antwerp where I'll spend another 3 days.[/QUOTE]Try going to the third RLD, the "Pijp. " It's small but more local and less hectic.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2842838]TL; DR. Skip Artemis. Go to Sharks or Oase instead.
[/QUOTE]Thank you for the report! Did you catch any names of the girls that were available?
However, I'd say you probably visited at the wrong time of the year. Mingering at German fkks, or generally in northern Europe in July / August you will not have the best line-up.
Maybe Sharks, with a larger lineup is less impacted than other fkks, but as a general rule of thumb I'd recommend to avoid these months if possible.
As a related example, I frequently check a Danish escort ad site. Normally, it has about 250-300 ads, but now over summer it's closer to 200. Even for a period it dipped below 200 ads. Some of the more coveted providers also are not advertising at this time but say they are back in September.
Maybe my Danish example is not 100% relevant for the German FKK scene, but it gives an indication that lineups are less than optimal this time of year as many providers travel back to their home countries or just going on vacation as any other worker would.
I wish you happy hunting in Amsterdam.
A quick account of my two visits to Artemis two weeks ago. My first time. The idea of walking around in a bathrobe with naked women surrounding me was appealing, so I had to try it. While changing, the guy next to me was leaving. Said he had a good time but if I really wanted an amazing time, I needed to go to Sharks. I said, you mean in Frankfurt? He said, Yeah. To myself I thought, Well, how the fuck is that going to help me? I've only two days in Berlin. Anyway, it was a Tuesday and raining, about 9:00 PM. Many Asian men for some reason this night. They were hovering near the stairway, hoping to get first crack at the girls entering the room, maybe? About six or eight girls in the bar area. The only place where there was a female presence. After about an hour of sipping OJ, I decided I needed to cull one from the herd. I went with Julia. I had been watching her for a while. She had gone up to every man and sized them up. She is an old pro at Artemis and has a strong personality. Romanian. Since she has something to say and opinions about shit, I enjoyed her company. But as a girl in her thirties, I was hoping for something younger. Regardless, she was professional, which means she knows what a man wants. I can see how she could turn off someone with certain expectations. But I found her to be nice enough. Got the job done at any rate. After, I ate some below average food and had an interesting conversation with a woman from Turkey with Princess Laia hair braids. She seemed personable. Just older than I usually go for. Left after that. On the way out the guy at the desk who worked there acknowledged that there were not that many women and told me there would be 60 the following night. Sounded implausible, but whatever. Next night was a Wednesday; I considered other places. But being tired, lazy, and on vacation, I listened to the man from the night before and returned to Artemis. It was pole dance night, he said. Only saw two girls actually pole dance in my two hours, and although I got there at 10 PM, there were only about 15 girls hanging around. After a long period of sucking on ice cubes, I went with Micky, another Romanian. It was her glasses and smile that got me. Bigger framed girl and like her co-worker the night before, was a real pro. She said she'd been with 3 guys already that night. A quick calculation told me this girl was earning some big $$ here. And she was staying until 5 AM. A nice conversationalist and did not act too pushy. A good performer during the act. But in the end, just OK. I appreciated her companionship more than her actual delivery of the goods. And as with Julia, there was no rushing or clock watching. Also, based on who was available on the floor, I thought these two ladies were the most attractive. I'd rate them as an 8. For women their age.
So, in the end I came away thinking that I had spent 210 Euros each night (70 to get in the door, 70 to the girl for half hour, 20 more for BBBJ, plus 50 more for extras) for a total of 420 Euros. About 450 bucks. Hmmmm. What could I do with 450 bucks in Latin America or SE Asia? And what kind of tight, young pussy could I find for a fraction of that price tag? Or rather, how many girls who meet my criteria could I have met and enjoyed for 450? I was in the Caribbean in June and I know I did not spend even 200 on the six girls I wound up fucking. But this is Europe, not Colombia or BKK, and there is a lot more going on outside the brothel to entertain me. So you have to consider the context. Also, just to have the experience. Kinda worth it. I suppose. Maybe. Well, what can I say? The bottom line is I won't intentionally go back to Germany for sex. If I happen to be there -- as I was in this case -- it's a different story.
One other piece of intel. Seems silly to talk about cost-savings measures after dropping hundreds at Artemis, but thought I would mention that you can take the metro to Westkreuz station on any of the east-west metro lines. Get off, go upstairs to the right, then all the way up, then go left to exit the station and loop around to your left, crossing back over the train lines. Artemis is right there. Taxis are plentiful, but this was so easy and free. Not sure why no one buys metro tickets in Berlin except tourists. I stopped paying for the metro after I noticed no one checks or seems to care. Anyway, it's an easy alternative. Also, it's good to get a little walk in after consuming sausage and beer all day. Good luck!
[QUOTE=EdwardQ;2847352] Not sure why no one buys metro tickets in Berlin except tourists. I stopped paying for the metro after I noticed no one checks or seems to care.[/QUOTE]Maybe you were simply lucky. "No one checks", but still 300 plus people per day get slapped with a 60 Euro fine.
[URL]https://www.bz-berlin.de/berlin/berlins-justizsenatorin-will-freifahrtschein-fuers-schwarzfahren[/URL]
[QUOTE=EdwardQ;2847352]So, in the end I came away thinking that I had spent 210 Euros each night (70 to get in the door, 70 to the girl for half hour, 20 more for BBBJ, plus 50 more for extras) for a total of 420 Euros. About 450 bucks. ..Seems silly to talk about cost-savings measures after dropping hundreds at Artemis, Not sure why no one buys metro tickets in Berlin except tourists. I stopped paying for the metro after I noticed no one checks or seems to care.[/QUOTE]You said key - 450 on so so sex, vs. 6.40 on mass transit, to keep system going, and get you to where you could then spend the 450?
Idea that "no one buys tickets except tourists" based on limited observations. Everyone who lives here who uses BVG often system has day, month or year pass. So it may look like few pay. There are random controls on all trains. Ninja was checked last week 3 times.
Writing a quick report from visit today, Tuesday 29 Aug2023.
Visited at lunchtime right after opening, and late afternoon (5 pm) to early evening (9 pm).
At lunchtime was obviously very slow, but roomed with Beatrice (Rom). Bleached blonde with great body and firm enhanced tits (I am very bad at estimating sizes, but they were more than a handful). Nice room, pretty standard, but very sexy girl imo.
Left and came back about 5 pm. Met Sanny (by the entrance to the lounge. She had introduced herself to me at lunchtime. Decided to room. Pretty girl, 31 yo, big soft enhanced titties. Declined DATY, but had a good room. Fun girl with good conversationalist skills. Mixed German / Moroccan.
After recharge met beautiful black girl from Jamaica named Nina. Natural bees, killer tight body with great feminine shapes. Splurged with great b2 b and extras. Great room with sexy woman.
Chilling out in the lounge at about 9 pm I noticed Mandy who I'd been with once before. Very petite slim spinner type girl with very bleached blonde hair and fair skin. Strong black eye shadow makeup. Does a good job in the room and kept me going until after lots of pounding I managed to release again.
Still vacation period according to girls, but it was busy enough for me. I much prefer weekday pace to weekend party. Estimate about 30 girls when I left, maybe a little more guys.
Pricing remains steady at 70430 with CBJ. Extras are generally priced similarly between girls. Entry fee is 90€, which is a lot but they run the place top notch imo. Lots of staff at bar and cleaning so well worth the premium. I only wish they'd procide a self-service water / soft drinks dispenser in the restaurant.
Will return next I am in the Big be.
NorthernSpirit, on 9/28/21 I wrote: I recommend specially Nina, a beautiful Jamaican with a great ass, like only black girts have. Her tits are small but the nipples are incredibly prominent. Her face is very exotic and sexy.
It seems that we share the same taste!
Met this girl Fleur in Artemis, she's amazing. She's cute and welcoming. Her service is top notch very GFE. BBJ is so great at one point I have to make sure to stop her before I pop because I want to do other things too. I wish I came back the next instead of looking somewhere else. Hope she's still around when I come back. Overall, Artemis is small club compared to other but full of talents. I saw a couple more girls good looking and doable, but I was glad I wanted out and went with Fleur. Until next time.
It used to be that Frankfurt clubs at 50 E per session were a better deal than Artemis (at 65 E? I forget), though Berlin was a much more interesting city. Now I see Artemis is 70 E for a standard session, which is better than the 100 E standard sessions at the Frankfurt clubs. But how do the sessions compare? Are Sharks and her compatriots still the better deal or is it time I switched my allegiances to Artemis?
[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2850385]It used to be that Frankfurt clubs at 50 E per session were a better deal than Artemis (at 65 E? I forget), though Berlin was a much more interesting city. Now I see Artemis is 70 E for a standard session, which is better than the 100 E standard sessions at the Frankfurt clubs. But how do the sessions compare? Are Sharks and her compatriots still the better deal or is it time I switched my allegiances to Artemis?[/QUOTE]Not that I am any Artemis specialist, but I believe you pay 95 E at Artemis for what you normally can expect in a 100 E session at the Frankfurt clubs.
That said, what does a 100 E session in a Frankfurt club really include these days? It varies so much from girl to girl. Let's agree that it should include kissing / DATY / BJ and MPOS CFS for 25- 35 mnts. But that is not always the case. Screening before the session is necessary. I bet the same apply to Artemis.
BTW, you can still have a CBJ/CFS session for 50E in a Frankfurt club. But you need to work for it, and trying other Frankfurt clubs than Sharks will perhaps improve your chances.
[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2850385]It used to be that Frankfurt clubs at 50 E per session were a better deal than Artemis (at 65 E? I forget), though Berlin was a much more interesting city. Now I see Artemis is 70 E for a standard session, which is better than the 100 E standard sessions at the Frankfurt clubs. But how do the sessions compare? Are Sharks and her compatriots still the better deal or is it time I switched my allegiances to Artemis?[/QUOTE]70 Euro at Artemis is usually with CBJ.
[QUOTE=Samplerr;2850621]70 Euro at Artemis is usually with CBJ.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's correct. There's usually a 20€ extra for BBBJ, totalling at 90€ for this "base" service. Usually this is pretty non-GFE, but stable performance.
I have quite limited experience across clubs with only a handful visits to Mainhattan and Sharks, and the same for Artemis. But my feeling is that the base service at Artemis is a little more "basic" than at the two Hessen clubs. On the other hand, if you're not too bothered with kissing and other GFE stuff, the base service is fully adequate, although maybe a little "automated".
On the other hand, I have had 100€ rooms at Sharks and MH that are also automated and not including kissing / DATY. So honestly, pricing and service levels are pretty similar imo.
The bad thing is that the entry fee of 90€ at Artemis hurts if you just want to pop (no pun intended) in for a single room. Better spend longer and do more rooms and entry fee will even out. On the other hand, for me always flying in, the cheaper flights to Berlin over Frankfurt am Main more than makes up for the more expensive entry.
There are just so many variables to calculating cost / benefit in this game xD And eventually, everyone will come to different conclusions. I can just recommend everyone to "shop around" and see what floats your boat the most.
[QUOTE=Samplerr;2850621]70 Euro at Artemis is usually with CBJ.[/QUOTE]How much extra are they asking these days at Artemis for a BBBJ?
[QUOTE=Shark16;2850609]Not that I am any Artemis specialist, but I believe you pay 95 E at Artemis for what you normally can expect in a 100 E session at the Frankfurt clubs.
That said, what does a 100 E session in a Frankfurt club really include these days? It varies so much from girl to girl. Let's agree that it should include kissing / DATY / BJ and MPOS CFS for 25- 35 mnts. But that is not always the case. Screening before the session is necessary. I bet the same apply to Artemis.
BTW, you can still have a CBJ/CFS session for 50E in a Frankfurt club. But you need to work for it, and trying other Frankfurt clubs than Sharks will perhaps improve your chances.[/QUOTE]IMO 70 E baseline is better than 100 E baseline because it's cheaper to take a chance on a girl, and FKKs are so fun because there's so much unknown tail. Sharks standard might be higher, but it will be more expensive if you make a bad choice.
[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2850385]It used to be that Frankfurt clubs at 50 E per session were a better deal than Artemis (at 65 E? I forget), though Berlin was a much more interesting city. Now I see Artemis is 70 E for a standard session, which is better than the 100 E standard sessions at the Frankfurt clubs. But how do the sessions compare? Are Sharks and her compatriots still the better deal or is it time I switched my allegiances to Artemis?[/QUOTE]Berlin has a poor selection, for FKK land. Just has the artemis. Artemis is a club well managed by the team. But the foods should be better than now. The rooms, the facilities, the design all is perfect, in some areas this is the best place, may be? With a 90 euro entracnce fee it gives a good ambiance indeed. Its easy to reach to artemis via metro or via uber or via taxi. Its close to city center even via walking can go there from zoologischter garden area.
The rooms are nice; but ı do not go for just all these. The woman do not come to guests, mostly the sit and watch and chat around the bar. The ambiance is unreal. Perfect.
The palace, the mainhattan, the oase, FKK sharks. Frankfurt can offer many pleasures. Just stay at the centre visit the palace. Inside is the best design in FKK land I think. The rooms are not cool enough. Close to center and easy to reach even via public transport.
Mainhattan is another choice easy to go there via tram. But a small sized club.
Oase has a great garden and the main bar area perfect. The rooms are so so - ı think. Foods are not ok. The place in the middle of no where. Just at somewhere how can ı describe do not know.
Sharks: biggest by volume, biggest by the number of girls, the best known in FKK land. Also the entrance fee is 65 eur. Foods are better than artemis and than the others. Has a good enough garden area, pool, sauna, jacuzzis.
As a result if ı compare just for the basic servise; sharks is also better than artemis. In the weekdays wg s share the time with you by chatting before the room. They give a gap to meet. Some times they sit with guests on the coaches more than 10 - 15 min. ı think: sharks is the best bet even for the basic service. ı tried all these clubs. My fav: sharks, artemis, palace, oase, mainhattan.
[QUOTE=Gilliat;2850781]My fav: sharks, artemis, palace, oase, mainhattan.[/QUOTE]I've heard various argument for Sharks, Oase, Palace and Artemis for top clubs, but very seldom does anyone name Mainhatten as their top choice, but yet, it keeps going on.
[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2850954]I've heard various argument for Sharks, Oase, Palace and Artemis for top clubs, but very seldom does anyone name Mainhatten as their top choice, but yet, it keeps going on.[/QUOTE]For me, things got so weak at Mainhattan that I stopped feeling like it was worth it to have a peek, even with it being really easy to do so. I used to love World, but we know that club fell off long ago. Only a shell of its former self. So sad! And never any valid explanations for what happened there.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2850959]For me, things got so weak at Mainhattan that I stopped feeling like it was worth it to have a peek, even with it being really easy to do so. I used to love World, but we know that club fell off long ago. Only a shell of its former self. So sad! And never any valid explanations for what happened there.[/QUOTE]Yeah, same here. Mainhattan doesn't even really enter into my consciousness when I think of FKKs. World was amazing for a time for me, since it had such great outdoor facilities and since it was a bit of an effort to reach, it was like Shangrila for me. But I haven't been in years, I hear it's dead. I heard it was a motorcycle gang money laundering operation, maybe the gangs just found better options for laundering or other clubs took its place.
Went to A Tuesday, quite a disappointment because of 90 euro entrance fee and not so many attractive girls. Roomed with Dana / Dara claiming to be russian but probably were romanian. Sex was 3 out of 5, not bad, not good. Left around 22:00 uhr because lack of pretty / hot girls. Will try FRA area next time.
Hello.
It's been many years since my last visit to Artemis, but this October I'm planning to go there again. Will be interesting to see how's things changed. I have had some good, some bad times there.
However, due to some recent changes in my life I feel that this time around I'm not as much into opti as I've been in the past. Neither going to as many rooms as possible. This time I am more looking for closeness and intimacy. As I'm writing this I see how it looks kind of sad, but it's really not. But, maybe FKK and the WG there are not what I'm looking for this time around.
If someone would be so helpful to point me in the direction or pm me with tips about where to find WG that would enjoy a nice dinner, conversation and a nice relaxing time I would be most thankful.
[QUOTE=Travelman10;2852231]
It's been many years since my last visit to Artemis. This time I am more looking for closeness and intimacy. But, maybe FKK and the WG there are not what I'm looking for this time around.[/QUOTE]Maybe? Artemis built upon maximum throughput for girls and mongers. You can find more closeness and intimacy in supermarket or petrol station (for free). In past, if you were very patient and lucky, you could find this very (very) rarely at the A. Those days long gone, by all reports.
[QUOTE]Where to find WG that would enjoy a nice dinner, conversation and a nice relaxing time[/QUOTE]Problem with any suggestions is unknown chemistry. Impossible to predict how someone will react to you (and you to her). Realistically, you ask almost for girlfriend. Also no idea how your sense of intimacy etc. Affected by pressure from expensive hours together. Only you can judge. All you can do is slightly increase odds and obviously that costs.
So you need check out higher end "courteseans". Berlinintim website has many links to escorts, and easy to also search ISG Berlin thread, and general search for "high end escort", eg. Escort 77 or ivana-models-escortservice. De or [URL]eurogirlsescort.com[/URL]/ escorts / Berlin / Key local site "lusthaus-Berlin" has most info but is work to use. You might look at Sandra A-Z [URL]https://huren-test-forum.lusthaus.cc/showthread.php?t=251994[/URL].
All this should continue in Berlin thread, not here. Good luck.
Visited on Monday 18th at 12 noon. Helpful reception. Clean fluffy gown and towel.
Approximately 9 girls and the same number of punters. Punters were mainly pensioners and a few Asian. All cab drivers.
Ate a so so breakfast and then made my way to the kino. Poor quality picture.
Sat there for 5 minutes before Rumanian girl joined me. No touching, just recitation of the menu. 70 euros standard covered BJ and intercourse. 20 euros extra for uncovered BJ. DATY another 20. No kissing. 30 minutes. She was a bit plump with droopy boobs.
Sat in the bar. 2 girls merited a 7, the rest were 5's maximum. I was very surprised and disappointed that practically all the girls wore towels and the ubiquitous garter belt. No attempt at seduction, Go to room 70 euro, no kissing, etc.
Lay in the sun for 30 minutes. Visited by several girls draped in towels. No touching. Take it or leave it.
After 1 pm maybe 20 girls. Some more punters, same demographic as earlier. I learned later that Sunday & Monday, pensioners and cab drivers get in for 50 euros.
The general quality of girls was low and I saw the ugliest woman that I have ever seen in a FKK.
I left at 2.30 a sadder & wiser man. Going out I met an older German man who had been royally rooked by the best looking girl there. He negotiated a 110 euro rate for uncovered BJ. 2 minutes in she said that as he was producing pre cum, he had to cover up. He spent 7 minutes in the room.
I will not revisit as it is definitely not worth the money The girls in the Frankfurt RLD offer a much more intimate experience for a lot less.
You have my attention. If you are that fussy yet there are still girls that meet your expectations in the rld where is he best place there?
[QUOTE=PeterClark;2857755]Visited on Monday 18th at 12 noon. Helpful reception. Clean fluffy gown and towel.
Approximately 9 girls and the same number of punters. Punters were mainly pensioners and a few Asian. All cab drivers.
Ate a so so breakfast and then made my way to the kino. Poor quality picture.
Sat there for 5 minutes before Rumanian girl joined me. No touching, just recitation of the menu. 70 euros standard covered BJ and intercourse. 20 euros extra for uncovered BJ. DATY another 20. No kissing. 30 minutes. She was a bit plump with droopy boobs.
Sat in the bar. 2 girls merited a 7, the rest were 5's maximum. I was very surprised and disappointed that practically all the girls wore towels and the ubiquitous garter belt. No attempt at seduction, Go to room 70 euro, no kissing, etc.
Lay in the sun for 30 minutes. Visited by several girls draped in towels. No touching. Take it or leave it..[/QUOTE]
In 2022 I visited Artemis and had an exceptional room with a very fit blond, I seem to remember her being German, long hair and very toned body.
I'd almost say fitness instructor body I'm guessing.
Early 30's.
Anyone remember seeing someone like this in the last few months.
[QUOTE=PeterClark;2857755]Visited on Monday 18th at 12 noon. Helpful reception. Clean fluffy gown and towel.
Approximately 9 girls and the same number of punters. Punters were mainly pensioners and a few Asian. All cab drivers.
Ate a so so breakfast and then made my way to the kino. Poor quality picture.
Sat there for 5 minutes before Rumanian girl joined me. No touching, just recitation of the menu. 70 euros standard covered BJ and intercourse. 20 euros extra for uncovered BJ. DATY another 20. No kissing. 30 minutes. She was a bit plump with droopy boobs.
Sat in the bar. 2 girls merited a 7, the rest were 5's maximum. I was very surprised and disappointed that practically all the girls wore towels and the ubiquitous garter belt. No attempt at seduction, Go to room 70 euro, no kissing, etc.
Lay in the sun for 30 minutes. Visited by several girls draped in towels. No touching. Take it or leave it.
After 1 pm maybe 20 girls. Some more punters, same demographic as earlier. I learned later that Sunday & Monday, pensioners and cab drivers get in for 50 euros..[/QUOTE]I've not been to Artemis yet but I'd imagine that like most FKK's Monday is probably the worst day you could go. If Monday was your only option then maybe going later in the day would have given you a better experience? I don't usually go to any FKK until mid PM.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2858573]In 2022 I visited Artemis and had an exceptional room with a very fit blond, I seem to remember her being German, long hair and very toned body.
I'd almost say fitness instructor body I'm guessing.
Early 30's.
Anyone remember seeing someone like this in the last few months.[/QUOTE]Spelling might be off, but someone just posted about her in one of the other german language forums. I know you all have been losing sleep on this question!
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2858573]In 2022 I visited Artemis and had an exceptional room with a very fit blond, I seem to remember her being German, long hair and very toned body.
I'd almost say fitness instructor body I'm guessing.
Early 30's.
Anyone remember seeing someone like this in the last few months.[/QUOTE]I also had exceptional time with a blond Berlin girl last summer (July 2022).
Are we talking about same person? The one I had just short hair to shoulder level. Only know she is local from Berlin, too bad didn't ask her name. I just returned from Berlin a couple weeks ago and she wasn't there, asked the front deck and they told me her name is Johanna?
Anyone had good experience with this Berlin girl? Is she still around?
I stayed in Artemis last Friday, nice place, there were lot of girls in the area, I need help to know the name of one girl working there if anybody can recognize her: black skin, about 1. 70, big fake boobs, not so beautiful face but a lovely smile, a bit belly cause she said she likes drinking alcohol, she was great, best blowjob ever and really nice company as she stayed talking after sex also. If anybody know her please could tell me her name. I absolutely forgot it. She said she lives in Berlin, she was sitetd at bar in smoked area alone all the time.
[QUOTE=Teloway;2859350]I also had exceptional time with a blond Berlin girl last summer (July 2022).
Are we talking about same person? The one I had just short hair to shoulder level. Only know she is local from Berlin, too bad didn't ask her name. I just returned from Berlin a couple weeks ago and she wasn't there, asked the front deck and they told me her name is Johanna?
Anyone had good experience with this Berlin girl? Is she still around?[/QUOTE]Yes. There was a Johanna too. I can't remember now which was which. Darn. Well I will soon find out!
Will report next week.
[QUOTE=Cummer50;2859675]I stayed in Artemis last Friday, nice place, there were lot of girls in the area, I need help to know the name of one girl working there if anybody can recognize her: black skin, about 1. 70, big fake boobs, not so beautiful face but a lovely smile, a bit belly cause she said she likes drinking alcohol, she was great, best blowjob ever and really nice company as she stayed talking after sex also. If anybody know her please could tell me her name. I absolutely forgot it. She said she lives in Berlin, she was sitetd at bar in smoked area alone all the time.[/QUOTE]I guess its Caroline. Lovely woman, always happy.
I hate to ask, but what percentage of the women have enhanced boobs?
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2860385]I hate to ask, but what percentage of the women have enhanced boobs?[/QUOTE]80 % or more.
[QUOTE=TeFab456;2860530]80 % or more.[/QUOTE]Thanks. That's awful!
Now to the reason I'm so down on Artemis. Not price, not ladies, but simply the air circulation. The smoking was so intense that sitting very long looking at the girls was like inhaling a cigarette myself. Given that there is only the bar area to mingle (the food area is smoke free but generally acknowledged as a neutral zone). I saw a few guys standing in the stair wells, but seriously.
So in keeping with a recent conversation on one of these threads, when I arrived, I did the "fast get it over with intense sex" as I planned to sit at the bar and enjoy a drink and the scenery. My choice was Lea (h) tall brunette with tattoo on right shoulder. Severe bang / cut hair style reminded me of Berlin Babylon. Intense, great sex. Sexy lady, made me think she'd have been a great slow burn- erotic choice but what's done is done.
Went for dinner, then massage (to keep out of the smoke while I recharged) and then around 10 pm several of the girls did a two-song pole dance show. Between the smoke and the visuals, I opted to not wait too long and take Celine for dessert! Told me everything but FIV and anal was on the menu. Opted for FO and CIM. Told me to alert her when I was about to finish. Warned her twice, but she didn't seem to care! Lustily she hung me out to dry. Chatted for quite some time, especially as the room was smoke free, and she had worked in a lot of places I had visited. Left before midnight. Thought of her cute ass all the way home. I'm sure if I dined at the behind, I'd have gone for multiple rounds.
I tend to take the mass transport to the place and then take an UBER home. But negotiating the Berlin mass transport system is easy and the area is quite safe. 6-8 minute walk to the station.
Thus began my week of F (uc) KKing across the country.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2862993]Now to the reason I'm so down on Artemis. Not price, not ladies, but simply the air circulation. The smoking was so intense that sitting very long looking at the girls was like inhaling a cigarette myself. Given that there is only the bar area to mingle (the food area is smoke free but generally acknowledged as a neutral zone). I saw a few guys standing in the stair wells, but seriously.
So in keeping with a recent conversation on one of these threads, when I arrived, I did the "fast get it over with intense sex" as I planned to sit at the bar and enjoy a drink and the scenery. My choice was Lea (h) tall brunette with tattoo on right shoulder. Severe bang / cut hair style reminded me of Berlin Babylon. Intense, great sex. Sexy lady, made me think she'd have been a great slow burn- erotic choice but what's done is done.
Went for dinner, then massage (to keep out of the smoke while I recharged) and then around 10 pm several of the girls did a two-song pole dance show. Between the smoke and the visuals, I opted to not wait too long and take Celine for dessert! Told me everything but FIV and anal was on the menu. Opted for FO and CIM. Told me to alert her when I was about to finish. Warned her twice, but she didn't seem to care! Lustily she hung me out to dry. Chatted for quite some time, especially as the room was smoke free, and she had worked in a lot of places I had visited. Left before midnight. Thought of her cute ass all the way home. I'm sure if I dined at the behind, I'd have gone for multiple rounds.
I tend to take the mass transport to the place and then take an UBER home. But negotiating the Berlin mass transport system is easy and the area is quite safe. 6-8 minute walk to the station.
Thus began my week of F (uc) KKing across the country.[/QUOTE]Great report. How did you like the club compared to past? Why is it your last.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2862993]Now to the reason I'm so down on Artemis. Not price, not ladies, but simply the air circulation. The smoking was so intense that sitting very long looking at the girls was like inhaling a cigarette myself. Given that there is only the bar area to mingle (the food area is smoke free but generally acknowledged as a neutral zone). I saw a few guys standing in the stair wells, but seriously.[/QUOTE]Yes, I totally understand this sentiment. The last time I went to Artemis, it was so stuffy and full of cigarette smoke that I got sick! I too took to standing in the stairway area in an attempt to avoid the smoke. A number of the customers complained that night, so they opened up the windows. But it was winter time, so the girls started to complain that they were cold, and the windows were closed again. Well damn it! They need to do something about it! Like maybe set up a designated space for smoking "cancerettes" like they did at Palace and Mainhattan, and strictly enforce where people can smoke. I mean it's just ridiculous, and nothing has changed! What about taking into consideration the comfort and health of your paying guests?
[QUOTE=TheCane;2863083]Yes, I totally understand this sentiment. The last time I went to Artemis, it was so stuffy and full of cigarette smoke that I got sick! I too took to standing in the stairway area in an attempt to avoid the smoke. A number of the customers complained that night, so they opened up the windows. But it was winter time, so the girls started to complain that they were cold, and the windows were closed again. Well damn it! They need to do something about it! Like maybe set up a designated space for smoking "cancerettes" like they did at Palace and Mainhattan, and strictly enforce where people can smoke. I mean it's just ridiculous, and nothing has changed! What about taking into consideration the comfort and health of your paying guests?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2863077]Great report. How did you like the club compared to past? Why is it your last.[/QUOTE]TC: Hey was that you I saw in the stairwell?! Agree with everything you say. Only thing worse was Globe Switzerland with people smoking cigars.
Seriously. Standing in the stairwell was tough the girls that talk to you there are often the more aggressive ones and it's not easy to chat. It's more a let's go conversation.
Roy: the cigarette smoke was so thick the night I was there that it really caused my sinuses to block up. I could feel it for days. Plus. It's not like you can find a place 'in the corner' that's smoke free. The food area is sterile and the girls come in- quickly eat- and leave. And of course don't hang in the wellness area which is supposedly smoke free but I saw several guys with electronic cigarettes walking around.
Finally if there were lots of 8s9s and 10s I might reconsider Artemis but my last two trips I found the ladies average. A lot of aggressive girls and a bunch of reports on German boards about average service and aggressive upsell. So best to move on and just stick with the independent escorts or a few other bordellos
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2863306]TC: Hey was that you I saw in the stairwell?! Agree with everything you say. Only thing worse was Globe Switzerland with people smoking cigars.
Seriously. Standing in the stairwell was tough the girls that talk to you there are often the more aggressive ones and it's not easy to chat. It's more a let's go conversation.
Roy: the cigarette smoke was so thick the night I was there that it really caused my sinuses to block up. I could feel it for days. Plus. It's not like you can find a place 'in the corner' that's smoke free. The food area is sterile and the girls come in- quickly eat- and leave. And of course don't hang in the wellness area which is supposedly smoke free but I saw several guys with electronic cigarettes walking around.
Finally if there were lots of 8s9s and 10s I might reconsider Artemis but my last two trips I found the ladies average. A lot of aggressive girls and a bunch of reports on German boards about average service and aggressive upsell. So best to move on and just stick with the independent escorts or a few other bordellos[/QUOTE]But don't you think the average line up is now Germany wide in all FKKs? I wonder if onlyfans has anything to do with this, where the more attractive ones.
Can make enough money from that now and so aren't becoming escorts anymore.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2863306]TC: Hey was that you I saw in the stairwell?! Agree with everything you say. Only thing worse was Globe Switzerland with people smoking cigars. Seriously. Standing in the stairwell was tough the girls that talk to you there are often the more aggressive ones and it's not easy to chat. It's more a let's go conversation.[/QUOTE]Wasn't me. I was talking about a time when I was at Artemis during the dead of winter. Like you said, you can sit back closer to where the food is, but that's not a good vantage points to see and interact with the girls. And if you go downstairs, well a lot of the girls don't circulate down there. So, what's a monger to do? Hack, cough, hack, hack!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2863083]Yes, I totally understand this sentiment. The last time I went to Artemis, it was so stuffy and full of cigarette smoke that I got sick! I too took to standing in the stairway area in an attempt to avoid the smoke. A number of the customers complained that night, so they opened up the windows. But it was winter time, so the girls started to complain that they were cold, and the windows were closed again. Well damn it! They need to do something about it! Like maybe set up a designated space for smoking "cancerettes" like they did at Palace and Mainhattan, and strictly enforce where people can smoke. I mean it's just ridiculous, and nothing has changed! What about taking into consideration the comfort and health of your paying guests?[/QUOTE]Hello my friend and saw you'the posted in Artemis thread and enjoyed your report. Disappointed to read about the smoke being so bad. This used to be the case very much at Living Room in Kaarst. Such a shame as I otherwise really liked the club but the main lounge was so bad I used to dub it "the cancer lounge" in the thread.
Artemis was my first ever FKK in 2013. I really like the club. In particular I love that it has a gym. Fabulous to have a great session then head for a workout, crash in the sauna / steam / showers, professional massage (though I always hated that it was in the open and usual guys doing them compared to other clubs) ready for next round.
That first visit will never leave my memory. The place was rocking, the smoke wasn't bad at all. First time I had been in the presence of maybe 80-90 totally naked girls. I was a stand out newbie as my towel did not hide my rock hard boner for the first hour or so! As a result the usual question "first time here baby?" was funny as it came with a glance South and a smile or a wandering hand to emphasise the point. I remember thinking back then that 80 e entry was steep (I've been since when it went to 90 - is that still the case?
Had some fantastic rooms in Artemis and one very memorable sunny afternoon when 2 Norwegian guys I met there and I took 4 ladies to the pool agreeing to pay them 200 each for "a good time" and we had a total party for well over an hour. Long ago!
My last visit to Artemis was 2020. Just when the club was allowed to open after a lockdown and before the next. Numbers were low and quality lower.
I hate smoke filled clubs so your report and that of Tintin made me think twice about a return. 2023 is the first year in those 10 years I haven't returned to any FKK. The pricing model has made it uncompetitive even with Dubai. Whilst I love Berlin as a City, so much to do and see, 90 entry, 20 extra for BBBJ when I was there, and prices for rooms were (if I recall) 150/30 200/60. What are current rates? They were always higher than any other FKK I visited. Add an extra or two and a room can easily cost 300+ which when added to entry makes one decent fuck over 400. I can get 2 hours+ for that with a stunner in Madrid or Malaga, or all night in Dubai with a stunner for that price. Probably take half the working girls in a bar in Pattaya for that price! Hence, Germany has become too expensive for my likes though I do miss the lovely vibe of an FKK and will undoubtedly return. Look forward to reading your other FKK tour reports.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2863354]Wasn't me. I was talking about a time when I was at Artemis during the dead of winter. Like you said, you can sit back closer to where the food is, but that's not a good vantage points to see and interact with the girls. And if you go downstairs, well a lot of the girls don't circulate down there. So, what's a monger to do? Hack, cough, hack, hack![/QUOTE]You can always lurk by the sofa under the stairs. Girls will walk all the way down towards the wellness area but they will stop at the entrance to the wellness area which is right next to the big sofa. You'll also be able to catch the girls heading to the kino.
[QUOTE=DasBooty;2863441]You can always lurk by the sofa under the stairs. Girls will walk all the way down towards the wellness area but they will stop at the entrance to the wellness area which is right next to the big sofa. You'll also be able to catch the girls heading to the kino.[/QUOTE]I tried that approach one time before, and it really didn't work to my liking. First of all, I found that not enough girls passed through there. The kino is a better spot if you ask me. Also, I just found that sofa to be uncomfortable if I stayed there for too long. Unfortunately, the absolute best action at Artemis is to be found in the smoke-filled main bar.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2863405]I hate smoke filled clubs so your report and that of Tintin made me think twice about a return. 2023 is the first year in those 10 years I haven't returned to any FKK. The pricing model has made it uncompetitive even with Dubai. Whilst I love Berlin as a City, so much to do and see, 90 entry, 20 extra for BBBJ when I was there, and prices for rooms were (if I recall) 150/30 200/60. What are current rates? They were always higher than any other FKK I visited. Add an extra or two and a room can easily cost 300+ which when added to entry makes one decent fuck over 400. I can get 2 hours+ for that with a stunner in Madrid or Malaga, or all night in Dubai with a stunner for that price. Probably take half the working girls in a bar in Pattaya for that price! Hence, Germany has become too expensive for my likes though I do miss the lovely vibe of an FKK and will undoubtedly return. Look forward to reading your other FKK tour reports.[/QUOTE]Although I understand where you're coming from, I disagree with some of your assertions. First of all, there's a tendency for mongers to attach the price of admission to the cost of a session, and I just don't think that's fair or appropriate. I mean, the cost of admission carries its own value. The gym, the sauna, the professional massage, the kino, the food, the soft drinks? The price of admission gets you access to all of that regardless of whether you session or not. We can debate about whether the admission charge is too high, but there can be no doubt that it comes with its own separate value apart from having sex with a girl there.
Second, speaking of having sex with a girl, there's no way in the world that Thailand or Dubai are more competitive than Germany for a monger like me. I like European and Latin American women pretty exclusively, so that rules out Thailand and other Asian destinations. It doesn't matter to me if I can buy half the girls in the bar if I don't want 95% of them! And when it comes to Dubai, I found that the service level is absolutely uncompetitive with Europe and Latin America when it comes to kissing, BBBJ, CIM, and anal sex. Although I got BBBJs in Dubai, far too many of the girls didn't want to do it. And I didn't get any CIM or anal at all! That doesn't cut it for me when Dubai was the second most expensive mongering destination in the world I have ever been too behind Switzerland. And I would rather go to Swtizerland since at least I could procure the services I want in order to be fully sexually satisfied.
In conclusion, I don't mind paying an admission charge in order to have access to the kind of amenities that an FKK club offers, and I don't tack that charge onto the cost of session since, in my view, the price of admission holds its own separate value apart from having sex at the club. Further, I have no problem paying 300 euros or so plus or minus if that gets me and hour-long session with BBBJ, CIM, and anal sex (I'm often able to negotiate in a massage as a part of the deal too). For me that's value, and it keeps me wanting to go back. I'll never forget my earliest trips to Artemis either. The diversity of Germans, Poles, Czechs, Romanians, Moldovans, Bulgarians, Russians, Hungarians. The choice was amazing, and the sex was great! Taking hot tutes like beautiful, blonde, Czech girl Marketa in her tight butt hole. Who remembers her? And it was sans all the "cancerette" smoke! What happened? Cough, cough, hack, hack!
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2863405] Whilst I love Berlin as a City, so much to do and see, 90 entry, 20 extra for BBBJ when I was there, and prices for rooms were (if I recall) 150/30 200/60. What are current rates?[/QUOTE]I was there Sunday night.
Current rates are 70/30 and 140/60 with CBJ. Usually includes DATY if girl offers it. BBBJ is 20, other extras are generally 50. A+ is 100.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2863405]
90 entry, 20 extra for BBBJ when I was there, and prices for rooms were (if I recall) 150/30 200/60. What are current rates? They were always higher than any other FKK I visited. Add an extra or two and a room can easily cost 300+ which when added to entry makes one decent fuck over 400. I can get 2 hours+ for that with a stunner in Madrid or Malaga, or all night in Dubai with a stunner for that price. Probably take half the working girls in a bar in Pattaya for that price! Hence, Germany has become too expensive for my likes though I do miss the lovely vibe of an FKK and will undoubtedly return. Look forward to reading your other FKK tour reports.[/QUOTE]I just did a few reports (mostly places to avoid), but I want to say that as much as I bitched about Globe it was much better than Artemis and at 150 Chf all in except cim and anal it helps the wallet. The food was good enough. The girls were better than Artemis but about equal to Sharks.
My next trip will be a revisit to Salzburg and a stroll back through some of the other NRW clubs that I haven't been to in a while. (Essen Koln Dortmund and vicinity). See most recent trip report on one of the outlying places. Forget the name.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2863519]Although I understand where you're coming from, I disagree with some of your assertions. First of all, there's a tendency for mongers to attach the price of admission to the cost of a session, and I just don't think that's fair or appropriate. I mean, the cost of admission carries its own value. The gym, the sauna, the professional massage, the kino, the food, the soft drinks? The price of admission gets you access to all of that regardless of whether you session or not. We can debate about whether the admission charge is too high, but there can be no doubt that it comes with its own separate value apart from having sex with a girl there.
Second, speaking of having sex with a girl, there's no way in the world that Thailand or Dubai are more competitive than Germany for a monger like me. I like European and Latin American women pretty exclusively, so that rules out Thailand and other Asian destinations. It doesn't matter to me if I can buy half the girls in the bar if I don't want 95% of them! And when it comes to Dubai, I found that the service level is absolutely uncompetitive with Europe and Latin America when it comes to kissing, BBBJ, CIM, and anal sex. Although I got BBBJs in Dubai, far too many of the girls didn't want to do it. And I didn't get any CIM or anal at all! That doesn't cut it for me when Dubai was the second most expensive mongering destination in the world I have ever been too behind Switzerland. And I would rather go to Swtizerland since at least I could procure the services I want in order to be fully sexually satisfied.
In conclusion, I don't mind paying an admission charge in order to have access to the kind of amenities that an FKK club offers, and I don't tack that charge onto the cost of session since, in my view, the price of admission holds its own separate value apart from having sex at the club. Further, I have no problem paying 300 euros or so plus or minus if that gets me and hour-long session with BBBJ, CIM, and anal sex (I'm often able to negotiate in a massage as a part of the deal too). For me that's value, and it keeps me wanting to go back. I'll never forget my earliest trips to Artemis either. The diversity of Germans, Poles, Czechs, Romanians, Moldovans, Bulgarians, Russians, Hungarians. The choice was amazing, and the sex was great! Taking hot tutes like beautiful, blonde, Czech girl Marketa in her tight butt hole. Who remembers her? And it was sans all the "cancerette" smoke! What happened? Cough, cough, hack, hack![/QUOTE]Your point about the admission having some value attached is not unreasonable. Depending on the club. If the food and facilities are good its ok. The gym in Artemis is good but I wouldn't normally pay 90 e for a day pass at a gym! But in a club like say Mainhattan, the entry fee really isn't buying much in my opinion. Hence I tend to lump it in and when I leave the club ask myself how much I just paid for the day / night to assess value and make comparisons. Truth is that many of the pay for extras in FKKs are not extras at all in other parts of the World.
I'm sorry you didn't enjoy Dubai. You clearly didn't get lucky on service. For me, for pure optifuk. It is unbeatable. Places like Club Blu have a large selection of 9's and 10's which for me is unrivalled anywhere else I've been. Service is hit and miss anywhere in my experience. I get that you have specialist preferences, as do I. But mine are provided at no extra cost in Spain / UK / Thailand / Dubai / Switzerland (outside of Globe). Pricing in Dubai (and Far East) is also markedly different. Being ST (which can be up to 3 hours if you don't pop early!) or LT (all night and repeat in the morning). My favourite Mimi in Jules in Dubai is 1500ST. About 400 euros. But for that she'll go off to a bar for a few drinks first, then 2-3 hours without any payment for anything extra and looks stunning. 3 hours with her in Artemis with some of the extras would cost me well over 500/600 euros. 3 hours in Scandalos in Malaga with a solid 9 can be negotiated for 450 - nothing for extras and no entrance fee. This all means for me the overall experience in Germany is not cheap. But it won't stop me going!
Thailand. As you say. If you don't like Asian girls it is hopeless bar the odd Russian. It's easily now my favourite place to monger. For me. Their service levels are just off the scale. Sure you get the odd bad apple. But on the whole these girls go the extra mile to please. That and the different options from Agogos, beer bars, soapies and my favourite Gents Clubs are just terrific. Recently had a fabulous time in a GC with four girls, stripping games, drinks, more games, food, and 5 of us in a jaccuzzi in the club and then into the room ST with all four of them after which they gave me a fabulous 8 hands massage for an hour! Left totally exhausted and drained (literally). Total cost. Equivalent of 400 euros. Sensational. The options in Thailand are just incredible. But as you say, you have to like the Asian girls without which it doesn't work.
Tintin. I really like Salzburg. Chilled vibe and the FKK there is good.
I've had a number of PMs about pricing and the majority are saying 100/50 and between 160-200/1 hour.
I can sense a Frankfurt trip looming before Christmas just to check out the main FKKs once again. Missed the weather for Sharks and Oase. Doubt I'll be back at Artemis for a while. Pricing / no alternative / and the nail in the coffin. The cancer lounge!
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2863673]I'm sorry you didn't enjoy Dubai. You clearly didn't get lucky on service. For me, for pure optifuk. It is unbeatable. [/QUOTE]It's not that I totally didn't enjoy Dubai. It's just that for the mongering money, I would much rather go someplace else where I know I can fuck 100% how I like to. There was plenty to see and do though. I did lots of interesting "touristy" things in the daytime. Then at night I was "sex touring" (fucking) LOL! Including exotic pussy from places like Turkmenistan (yes I'm a flag capturer). And I agree that the optics level can be off the charts in Dubai, especially when it comes to the Russian girls. I picked up a hot "blondika" from Premiere. On the way back to my hotel in the taxi, she asked in a whisper if I had condoms at the ready in my room (and of course my answer was "yes" hahaha). As we rode back to my hotel I was thinking, "I cannot believe that I will soon be going on the down stroke deep up inside of this hot, blonde Ruskie girl from Crimea"! If only she had let me fuck her in that pink "pope-ka" (arsehole) of hers then the night would have been a complete success LMAO! Got to go to Brazil or Germany or even Spain for that haha!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2863681]It's not that I totally didn't enjoy Dubai. It's just that for the mongering money, I would much rather go someplace else where I know I can fuck 100% how I like to. There was plenty to see and do though. I did lots of interesting "touristy" things in the daytime. Then at night I was "sex touring" (fucking) LOL! Including exotic pussy from places like Turkmenistan (yes I'm a flag capturer). And I agree that the optics level can be off the charts in Dubai, especially when it comes to the Russian girls. I picked up a hot "blondika" from Premiere. On the way back to my hotel in the taxi, she asked in a whisper if I had condoms at the ready in my room (and of course my answer was "yes" hahaha). As we rode back to my hotel I was thinking, "I cannot believe that I will soon be going on the down stroke deep up inside of this hot, blonde Ruskie girl from Crimea"! If only she had let me fuck her in that pink "pope-ka" (arsehole) of hers then the night would have been a complete success LMAO! Got to go to Brazil or Germany or even Spain for that haha![/QUOTE]Let me know if you decide to head back. Lots of tips but conscious not to Dubai the Artemis thread. What other FKKs have you done on your trip and how do they compare to Artemis?
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2863885]Let me know if you decide to head back. Lots of tips but conscious not to Dubai the Artemis thread. What other FKKs have you done on your trip and how do they compare to Artemis?[/QUOTE]Nothing compares to Artemis. Learn!
Preparing to visit Artemis Again after a looong period of time. Last time prices were about 60 e / entry and 60 e / standar30 min. Don't smile! Now I understand that the entry is 90 e and the prices have gone up. Can you tell me how high they are?
Any bit of advice. Another FKK instead Artemis?
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Second, speaking of having sex with a girl, there's no way in the world that Thailand or Dubai are more competitive than Germany for a monger like me. [/QUOTE]That depends on what type of monger you are. I've been to Dubai, German FKK, and Thailand. As well as many other monger cities.
If I could only choose 1, it would be dubai. Why? Because I like diversity. Dubai has most ethnicities and nationalities. Middle Eastern, Asian, Caucasian, and African. The only thing they don't have is Latin, but many Middle Eastern women look latin anyway.
So why do I still come German FKKs? Because its still fun. Despite 99% of the WGs being from Romania, I can still have a good time.
In summary, each place has their pros and cons.
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2886263]That depends on what type of monger you are. I've been to Dubai, German FKK, and Thailand. As well as many other monger cities.
If I could only choose 1, it would be dubai. Why? Because I like diversity. Dubai has most ethnicities and nationalities. Middle Eastern, Asian, Caucasian, and African. The only thing they don't have is Latin, but many Middle Eastern women look latin anyway.
So why do I still come German FKKs? Because its still fun. Despite 99% of the WGs being from Romania, I can still have a good time.
In summary, each place has their pros and cons.[/QUOTE]That's why I specifically said for a monger like [B]me[/B]. I value [B]performance[/B] over Dubai's edge on diversity of talent. Not interested in paying far more money for greater diversity but less performance! My number one Brazil offers all of the diversity I need, and although the diversity isn't as great in Germany, the performance per my tastes is far superior to Dubai (especially when it comes to anal sex). So much so that I have no strong desire to return to Dubai at all. Enjoy yourself!
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2886263] . . .
If I could only choose 1, it would be dubai. Why? Because I like diversity. Dubai has most ethnicities and nationalities. . . . [/QUOTE]But are there sex clubs with naked sex workers walking about, and bedrooms on premises?
Well it was hard for me to want leave Berchtesgaden and Mystic but I did and made my way up through Munich, Nuremberg and stopped in Dresden for the night on my way to Berlin. I had hoped I'the get a message from Luna and I'the have turned it around and went and saw her again and stay there again another night or two as I loved the area anyways. Sadly I think my number was put in her phone wrong as I am sure she would have messaged me. Oh well so onto Berlin I made my way there and was up there around noon or so and went to several places and checked into the Intercontinental. I was tired as fuck and not feeling it and heard Artemis wasn't anything amazing and had kind of wrote it off. But I figured fuck it I am going to let the Legend Steve down if I don't do it and not like I'm here often. So I ordered some food and then after an uber (which works but they are just a middle man but still nice).
Uber picks me up and drops me off and I pay the entry fee and get my robe and towel and all bracelet. I like their automatic lock wireless bracelets. First look is there are a lot of dudes. Stairs are a good place to watch so I slide downstairs and don't see hardly anyone other than an old dude got out of the poll. Went back upstairs to the bar and it was quite a sausage fest and the girls were the opposite of pushy. Lots of guys sitting around and some girls but def more guys than girls. Found one I liked and went to chat with her at the seats close to the bar and she said sorry I'm on break. Ok then so I move on and circle the bar twice and one lady gets my attention. Not super hot but far from ugly.
We chat it up some and agree to go to a room and I know this is a one pop night anyways so I wanted to be a bit more choosey but didn't see a lot better or anyone who wowed me like Luna. Not sure what I'the rank her looks but above average and nice ass. Said she was from Moldova. We go up the stairs and get a room with decent light and some nice mirrors (finally some mirrors and decent light this is what I've been waiting for with FKKs). She starts with a decent BJ and I'm already loving the visuals from the mirror. BJ was decent not amazing. She covered me up and went reverse cowgirl and then we switched to doggie and then back to BJ which I loved as she had her ass right by my head and I could look in the mirror and see her pussy and ass and her sucking me. It was quite good. She blew jerked me and blew me until I was ready to unload and I let her know I was about to cum and blasted in her mouth. She did one I hadn't seen done before after she spit it out she used a mouth rinse a couple times I assume trying to kill any germs / diseases maybe. Haha. Showered and got dressed and called my uber and went back to Intercontinental. Place isn't bad and not hard to find a chick hot enough to fuck. Girls were far from pushy in general and the one I did didn't up sell or try much. Just doesn't have the magic of Mystic. Not sure what it is but I like that place. Overall was glad I visited though!
[QUOTE=Edisd;2886212]Preparing to visit Artemis Again after a looong period of time. Last time prices were about 60 e / entry and 60 e / standar30 min. Don't smile! Now I understand that the entry is 90 e and the prices have gone up. Can you tell me how high they are?
Any bit of advice. Another FKK instead Artemis?[/QUOTE]Entrance fee 90 Euro. Service starts from 70 Euro / 30 minutes CBJ and sex. There's no another FKK in Berlin capital area.
[QUOTE=Edisd;2886212]Preparing to visit Artemis Again after a looong period of time. Last time prices were about 60 e / entry and 60 e / standar30 min. Don't smile! Now I understand that the entry is 90 e and the prices have gone up. Can you tell me how high they are?
Any bit of advice. Another FKK instead Artemis?[/QUOTE]Yeah the prices have gone up but the quality and selection of the girls has gone down. I don't see the diversity that I used to see 10-15 years ago!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2886299]That's why I specifically said for a monger like [B]me[/B]. I value [B]performance[/B] over Dubai's edge on diversity of talent. Not interested in paying far more money for greater diversity but less performance! My number one Brazil offers all of the diversity I need, and although the diversity isn't as great in Germany, the performance per my tastes is far superior to Dubai (especially when it comes to anal sex). So much so that I have no strong desire to return to Dubai at all. Enjoy yourself![/QUOTE]Oh, how I feel you dude! Brazilians are an absolute #1 performance players in my book, while Dubai is definitely the worst performance I've seen. Anywhere.
So I finally returned to Artemis after a multi year hiatus. I booked my usual hotel nearby (Novum Hotel Kronprinz), found a room at a pretty deep discount which was what made me pull the trigger on this trip to begin with. The hotel is "good enough", nothing special but it works for me. It's just a few minutes walk from Artemis.
Anyway, I was going to go the individual escort route and had an entire roster lined up. But I booked the usual hotel knowing I might just want to take the easy route when I finally arrived. And sure enough, that's what I ended up doing.
Since I hadn't been to Artemis in a long time the electronic lockers were new to me. I like them, they do what they're supposed to. I got changed, took a shower and entered the fray. Started out checking out the wellness area, not many girls there. They definitely seemed to leave you alone down there most of the time which was different from how I remembered it but also a welcome respite in between sessions.
After that I went up to the bar area where pretty much 99 % of the girls hung out. It didn't take long before a dark skinned Caribbean woman grabbed my attention. A little older maybe, but still in shape. I walked past her first and into the restaurant area to look at the buffet which, I'm sorry, but it was very underwhelming. The only thing I ended up eating was some curry chicken and rice. Anyway, I went back into the bar area and looked around some more. But the Caribbean woman had clearly seen me the first pass and got a hold of me. Her name was Hope and she's from Haiti.
We chatted a little and I agreed to go with her as my first session. Apparently I was her first for the day too as she had just arrived 30 minutes earlier. She told me the only thing included was regular sex, no kissing, owo or anything else. Normally that might be underwhelming but I was okay with it after all this time away. Boom, bang; finished in doggy as I almost always do. Damage: 7030.
After that I got aggressively pursued by this Dominican chick; and for anyone in the business reading this: don't do that! It's SUCH a f*cking turn off for me. I hate sharks. I'm supposed to be the shark, you're supposed to be the fish. I want to be the one hunting and choosing. She wasn't even bad looking. Eventually I managed to shake her and escape to the pool area. I was really not in the mood after that and waited a decent amount of time until I saw most guys by the pool leave. "Good", I thought, "now she has different pray to chase after so I can hunt in peace".
So up I went again, and I was right. She was busy elsewhere. I sat down by the bar and asked for a drink. Some time passed, and since I didn't see anything that I really fancied (the quality has gone down, people are not lying) I decided to take a break and come back later in the evening.
Turns out that was a good choice. When I came back I almost immediately saw a perfect ten. This one I will call Cardi be (though this one looks better than her namesake, but it will be explained later). She was sitting by the bar smoking, had a super tiny waist paired with a superbly shaped ass, medium sized tits (real, no fake shit), and long pitch black hair that went all the way down to her lower back. Nobody else in the entire place came close to looking this good.
I sat down and introduced myself and asked if she was on her break. She said yes, and I said "that's okay, I can wait". And so I did because I wasn't going to lose sight of this one. I talked to her a bit but mostly let her chill in peace with her cigarette. I found out she's born in Germany. Eventually she seemed ready to go, then her friend showed up (she introduced her as such). I knew where this was going, but I was okay with it since it was getting late and this was probably going to be my last session for the day. And I got an idea in my head of her friend blowing me while I played with her ass. So I said yes to a threesome.
Off we went upstairs. Almost ended right there since there were no keys left at all, but a cleaner came by with one pretty quickly. So into the room we went. Her friend was actually vibing pretty hard, so I was now even happier that I had brought her along. She raised the mood and made the session better, a perfect sidekick I must say.
The session started out just as I had imagined in my head. Her friend was blowing me and I asked Cardi be to turn around and position her ass by my head. This was great and I got hard pretty easily. Now I noticed Cardi be had a piercing in her clit too, nice touch.
After fondling her for a while I asked her to get into doggy. And boy was that pussy super tight, I almost couldn't get in at first. And her tiny waist contrasted with the roundness of her ass was just the best doggy I've ever had. Once I was in her pussy felt amazing.
After a while I asked to do her friend in missionary. I always forget they have to switch condoms and we kinda laughed a bit about the hassle of it all. But once the switch was made I had my fun with her friend for a while, then switched back to Cardi for another missionary and eventually finishing in doggy again. All the while they both performed well with moaning and dirty talk.
Once the session was done her friend pointed out "she has an ass like Cardi be right?" and I agreed wholeheartedly. She said it was all genetics, but I also planted a little seed in her friend's mind that she should do some squats in the gym 'cause the potential for a great ass was there for her too. I also said mine would be flat as a pancake if I didn't workout and she replied "sexy" about my behind.
So there you go; that was as perfect of a session with good vibes and great looks combined that I could've asked for. And thus my report ends here, because I wasn't going to top this. I went back to my hotel and did other things for the rest of my trip.
The session was going to cost me 18030, but I was very happy with their mood and performance so I gave them 100 each so 20030. Well worth it for me.
The only complaint I have has nothing to do with them; but with the room. The lighting really could be better. It was definitely a shade too dark, I would've liked to see more clearly. But that seems like a problem in several FKKs from what I've read.
Friends!
It's been quite a few years since my last visit. I'm planning a comeback around May 1st. Looking forward to it. This time I have an idea to maybe spend a whole day at Artemis, come and go. And maybe use the gym for a workout. Or maybe go for a run and come back to shower and chill.
I don't feel like using the gym wearing a robe and towel. Have you ever seen anybody use the gym in shorts and t-shirt? Is it allowed?
[QUOTE=Travelman10;2899047]I don't feel like using the gym wearing a robe and towel. Have you ever seen anybody use the gym in shorts and t-shirt? Is it allowed?[/QUOTE]No problem at all.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2899072]No problem at all.[/QUOTE]I'm always amazed when I see people in their own robes. I suppose it's supposed to be a sign of being local, but still? If I were to bring anything it's a decent pair of flip flops that fit.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2899073]I'm always amazed when I see people in their own robes. I suppose it's supposed to be a sign of being local, but still? If I were to bring anything it's a decent pair of flip flops that fit.[/QUOTE]I was at a termas in Brazil once and saw a couple of guys walking around in their own monogrammed robes LOL!
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2899073]I'm always amazed when I see people in their own robes. I suppose it's supposed to be a sign of being local, but still? If I were to bring anything it's a decent pair of flip flops that fit.[/QUOTE]I m amazed when I see guys with a casquet and sunglasses in dark clubs, or with socks, or under shower with pantie to hide their small one, when I like to play with mine under shower, I remember Megan watching with round eyes when I washed my tool on our shower together at Globe. Funny.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2899474]I remember Megan watching with round eyes when I washed my tool on our shower together at Globe. Funny.[/QUOTE]Megan? Was upstairs at Club Globe with a WG called Megan in 2020. The same? Funny.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2899669]Megan? Was upstairs at Club Globe with a WG called Megan in 2020. The same? Funny.[/QUOTE]After Mainhattan and Sharks, she worked at Globe from April 2017 til a bit after covid but not long. Usual shower together after room at Globe.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2899474]I m amazed when I see guys with a casquet and sunglasses in dark clubs, or with socks, or under shower with pantie to hide their small one, when I like to play with mine under shower, I remember Megan watching with round eyes when I washed my tool on our shower together at Globe. Funny.[/QUOTE]Tonight, once again, I saw a guy going to room with a bag, maybe to take a real tool? I go only with my tool to fuck.
I visited Artemis again, after a few years.
I read people complaining about the smoke in this space, and YES. Though I am a smoker, I felt the smoke inside was too much!! Its high time the management should do something about it.
The ladies vs. Gentlemen ratio is poor, I was there on a weekend and a weekday. Both days, the number of ladies were not as good as earlier days.
I met the below ladies in two days, and a short notes about each of them.
Best services:
Victoria, Ukraine: Great GFE, good company and fab service.
Jenifer, Croatia: Again, same as above lady, and I was offered extra services like golden shower, etc.
Emma, Bulgaria, Good GFE, great service.
Okyish Service, may not repeat:
Micky, Romania: Okish service, nothing great. She was wearing a big frame glasses, nice style, but won't make up for the poor service.
Won't repeat:
Natalia, Russia: Lier and try to con you - She told me "today NONE of us do std, only 90 Euro service ONLY". I told her, she were wrong, I had a std service some time ago. Then her story changed: -"I don't do this. I do ONLY 90". Though another 20 won't kill me, I didn't like the way she was operating, so I told her I would pass, don't want her service. Later in the room (ya, should have avoided her, but her cute little ass pulled me to the room. LOL), she was telling me lies, and her focus was on extracting money, not on service.
As Berlin don't have any other FKKs, I guess I will end up visiting here again.
Haven't been to Artemis since before the pandemic. Hoping to get back there later this year.
Does anyone know if Sidney (German, blonde, quite pale skin) and Ginger (Romanian, brown hair) are still working here? They were a couple of my favourites from when I used to visit.
Of course I am always keen to meet new girls too so will go back regardless but was just curious.
It's all about what you are used to, right?
I've never been to Artemis before today (Monday), although I went to an FKK in Zurich years ago. So I knew the basics. 90 euro at door, wristband and locker key. Change, shower, head to the bar — the main browsing area — for a coke. Wow! My visit in Zurich had about 10 guys inside and about the same number of ladies. Tonight there were a dozen guys, but easily double that number of ladies. I knew I was fresh meat since I was a new face, but I didn't get more than 10 feet inside before a woman grabbed my arm and (gently) pulled me over to the bar to sit next to her. She was older than most with blonde hair and big tits, maybe Fiona? I was going to politely blow her off to walk around, but she knew I was a rookie and offered to explain everything to me, plus getting me a drink from the bar. She had a sexy Hungarian accent and was so pleasant to chat with I stayed with her. Half hour with BJ and sex is 70, and with BBBJ it's 90. She told me she liked to do it slow and take her time, and offered CIM as an extra. We went down to the small theatre instead of up to a room, where she told me I could watch porn and warm up while she played with me. Short summary she blew me, fucked me, gave me a prostate massage, and I came in her mouth while she was blowing me and fingering my ass, while I watched the hot blonde on porn getting fucked. 190 euro.
While I went back to the bar to relax, a bevy of women came by and introduced themselves and tried to tell me they could get me back up and cum again. This despite me knowing my body, and a 2nd pop is unlikely although I could easily get hard again. I turned them all down. Mindi from Germany, Sandy from Poland, Elizabeth from the DR, etc. All hot as hell and tempting but a waste of money until I'm ready again. Then I met Hannah from Germany. Maybe the most plain looking of the bunch, but sexy as hell with lovely be's, and by far the most open and direct. She told me I could have anything I wanted from her, all at extra cost. Rimming, anal, prostate massage, pegging, she'the do whatever. I realized she was right, I might not cum but I could still enjoy myself. Well, she was a great kisser, and she loved anal, and no I didn't cum but yes after half an hour I had really enjoyed sex with her. Not cheap with those extras at 240.
Summary: Artemis has a TON of sexy girls walking around wanting your money, but they are gorgeous, and for extra cost, you can have anything you want. With entry I spent 520 euros which sounds like a ton of cash, but I've never had a prostate massage, only my 2nd time anal but this with a girl who was into it, 2 great bbbjs, and 2 great fucks. Compare to the 2 escorts I had in my hotel room which cost me 330 euro without anal, rimming, or prostate. Add the huge selection of girls on offer at Artemis. The money adds up fast but if you're on vacation like me and don't have to worry about this place in my hometown, spend it and enjoy!
Thanks for reporting. Enjoyed reading your report very much. It was kinda calm at Artemis during these days, but Ramadan is over now and it will get more busy there.
[QUOTE=MikeNm;2907159]She was older than most with blonde hair and big tits, maybe Fiona? I was going to politely blow her off to walk around, but she knew I was a rookie and offered to explain everything to me, plus getting me a drink from the bar. She had a sexy Hungarian accent and was so pleasant to chat with I stayed with her.[/QUOTE]Maybe Virginia. AFAIR long curly light blondish hair.
[QUOTE=MikeNm;2907159]It's all about what you are used to, right?
I've never been to Artemis before today (Monday), although I went to an FKK in Zurich years ago. So I knew the basics. 90 euro at door, wristband and locker key. Change, shower, head to the bar the main browsing area for a coke. Wow! My visit in Zurich had about 10 guys inside and about the same number of ladies. Tonight there were a dozen guys, but easily double that number of ladies. I knew I was fresh meat since I was a new face, but I didn't get more than 10 feet inside before a woman grabbed my arm and (gently) pulled me over to the bar to sit next to her. She was older than most with blonde hair and big tits, maybe Fiona? I was going to politely blow her off to walk around, but she knew I was a rookie and offered to explain everything to me, plus getting me a drink from the bar. She had a sexy Hungarian accent and was so pleasant to chat with I stayed with her. Half hour with BJ and sex is 70, and with BBBJ it's 90. She told me she liked to do it slow and take her time, and offered CIM as an extra. We went down to the small theatre instead of up to a room, where she told me I could watch porn and warm up while she played with me. Short summary she blew me, fucked me, gave me a prostate massage, and I came in her mouth while she was blowing me and fingering my ass, while I watched the hot blonde on porn getting fucked. 190 euro.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a great first visit, thanks for sharing!
Hello.
How's the line up in May 1st? Weather looks great and maybe bbq because it's Wednesday? But if all the ladies are taking the day off maybe another day is better?
Spent 30 minutes with Penelope from Romania. She says she is 33 years old (probably) and looks like one of the girls from the Robert Palmer music video "Simply Irresistible. " I liked her direct style of interaction. 30 minutes, 70 euro, covered BJ, and DATY included. Nothing romantic, but professional and enjoyable in the room. Allowed me to explore her entire body with my mouth. No forced upsells, although oral without (+20 euro) and CIM (+50 euro) were on offer. She was chill. I loved her fitness body. I asked her how many times she goes to the room per night: "10 to 15 to 20. " Pretty wild, but not unexpected. Guess at the high end she could bring in 20 x 80 e = 1600 euro per night. Interesting.
I was in Artemis over three nights, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. It is not the same club I remember. Many years (and euros) ago this club was perhaps my favorite in all of Germany, along with Oase. Many posters have indicated the change occurred through the COVID pandemic. Of course, I could have been the one to change as my perceptions have diminished with age. In any case, I found myself choosing Artemis each night hoping to recapture some of the enchantment I used to experience. I had sex with eight women over three nights. I do not remember their names; I think there was Penelope, possibly a Tina, and then. Nothing. I can report most of the women were older than I remember, easily starting in the mid- to upper twenties when before it was not unusual to see fresh nineteen-year-olds eager to play. The current crop of women ranged from "4" to "7" with a rare "8" walking among them. I was most surprised by the presence of some overweight and generally unattractive women when this type of individual would never have made the cut earlier. Very few behaved playfully or naturally in the main room, which as others have said is quite smoky. There were 30- 40 women on Friday and Saturday, most of whom I dismissed immediately due to perceived imperfections such as weight, age, and unattractive body type. Most of the women are Romanian. Unfortunately, to my eye, many of the women had large and unappealing asses which is a deal-breaker to me. A couple of pole-dancers enlivened the evening.
Most of the conversations seemed chilly. After 3 nights many of the girls recognized me from earlier. Some would ask me how many times I had been to the room previously. The basic price is 70 euros for 30 minutes with covered BJ and at least a couple of positions, such as missionary and doggy. Most of the girls were eager to upsell, and many wouldn't go to the room for 70 euros, but agreed to the 90 euro rate (70 e for 30 min, plus 20 e for BBBJ). I didn't care about the extra 20 euros. Surprisingly, my single requirement for the room, DATY, was refused by many women. "I don't do that," was the response. This saddened me terribly. These girls do not kiss and they don't allow DATY. They don't pretend to be affectionate. Getting off is not the reason I visit Artemis or other houses. Back in the day I routinely enjoyed "8-9"s with perfect bodies with kissing, DATY, and rimming. Many of the girls would ask if I wanted to extend the time since we were enjoying our mutual exploration of each other. Not every session was perfect. Certainly a few duds and disappointments even back then.
What did I like about Artemis? I visited a lot of different daytime brothels in Berlin looking for fun, but the outcomes were mostly unsatisfying. The price at Artemis, whether 70 e or 90 e is fair. I especially liked that I had dozens of nearly naked women to watch walking around, knowing at least theoretically, that I could have sex with any of them. I enjoyed being in a place where female objectification is the sole purpose, instead of being shamed for my instinctual behaviors by our newly woke society. I would probably repeat with 5 of the 8 women I had sex with, so not a terrible percentage. I liked being able to have sex with one girl, take a quick shower, then go back out to the main room to select another.
On the final girl of my visits, I hit the jackpot. I was standing in the passageway where the large stairway divides the locker room from the main room. This space is ideal to see the girls in more natural light. A 25-year old German black-haired "6" without enhancements started to chat with me. I was looking to finish my time pleasantly. I asked if DATY was okay, and she responded that she loved DATY and that I could touch her anywhere I wanted. Sold. I was finally invited by an agreeable woman to have sex and the money actually seemed to be secondary. We climbed up the stairs, grabbed a room, and enjoyed a full hour of lovemaking. Lots of mutual oral (with protection), titty licking, and hugging. Indeed, she let me kiss and lick her entire body (although she gently declined kissing on the mouth) including rimming which elicited warm groans from her. Different positions for intercourse. She looked at me warmly and at the end I enjoyed a grand orgasm. Total cost 140 e plus I tipped her an extra 20 e. She was happy with the amount and thanked me. No clock watching. It was a solid hour.
Given another visit to Berlin, I would be hard-pressed to find another venue that still offers what Artemis offers. I will return.
I'm planning on visiting Artemis (or any FKK) for the first time since well before the pandemic next week. Wondering how much of a lineup one can expect by noon? By 2? By 4? Danke.
[QUOTE=Regnad;2916097]I'm planning on visiting Artemis (or any FKK) for the first time since well before the pandemic next week. Wondering how much of a lineup one can expect by noon? By 2? By 4? Danke.[/QUOTE]I am no Artemist expert (never been), but based on a number of visits to other FKK clubs a very rough estimate would be as follows:
- Noon: 10- 20% of the lineup of the day.
- 2 pm: 20- 30%
- 4 pm: 40- 60% (evening shift start arriving)
The girls (and gents) would probably arrive earlier if it is a sunny day in summer at a FKK club with a garden (which Artemis do not have).
Welcome back!
[QUOTE=DeepakSa;2906379]I visited Artemis again, after a few years.
I read people complaining about the smoke in this space, and YES. Though I am a smoker, I felt the smoke inside was too much!! Its high time the management should do something about it.
The ladies vs. Gentlemen ratio is poor, I was there on a weekend and a weekday. Both days, the number of ladies were not as good as earlier days.
I met the below ladies in two days, and a short notes about each of them.
Best services:
Victoria, Ukraine: Great GFE, good company and fab service.
Jenifer, Croatia: Again, same as above lady, and I was offered extra services like golden shower, etc.
Emma, Bulgaria, Good GFE, great service.
Okyish Service, may not repeat:
Micky, Romania: Okish service, nothing great. She was wearing a big frame glasses, nice style, but won't make up for the poor service.
Won't repeat:
Natalia, Russia: Lier and try to con you - She told me "today NONE of us do std, only 90 Euro service ONLY". I told her, she were wrong, I had a std service some time ago. Then her story changed: -"I don't do this. I do ONLY 90". Though another 20 won't kill me, I didn't like the way she was operating, so I told her I would pass, don't want her service. Later in the room (ya, should have avoided her, but her cute little ass pulled me to the room. LOL), she was telling me lies, and her focus was on extracting money, not on service.
As Berlin don't have any other FKKs, I guess I will end up visiting here again.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review Deepak. You said that a few of the girls were "GFE". Does this include kissing (DFK or at least LFK)? Many other reviews state that you won't get kissing anymore. What was your experience?
This was my first visit to Artemis, and to any brothel (I'm from Hungary, and unfortunately it's illegal to run a brothel there). I went there on Saturday before noon, not much after opening. When I arrived, the lady at the reception told me everything I needed to know, and gave me a white bathrobe. By the way, I have a theory that bathrobes are color coded: German speakers get a blue one and English speakers get a white one. I think so because the majority wore blue, and all the girls approached me in English.
I started to look around and soon several girls approached me. (Sorry but I either don't remember or didn't understand most of their names.) I chose a brunette, a German girl with Middle Eastern descent first. Since I told her this was my first visit, she explained to me everything with patience. She had lovely breasts, and the BJ and sex were great with her too.
I then went to eat (breakfast was fine, with rich selection) and relax. I met a Czech blondie with a beautiful face, whom I had to turn down because I was afraid I wouldn't be able to have another round so soon. Unfortunately I didn't meet her again. But then came an exotic looking girl with a huge ass, which really turned me on, and she turned out to be Hungarian too, so we could talk in our language (which is always fun abroad because nobody else understands). When we went to a room, I received an erotic massage for €50 more, then she rode me with her back against me, showing her beautiful ass. She made me cum on her breasts while sitting on my chest with one ass cheek. It was wonderful!
As soon as we returned to the main area, a black beauty from Zanzibar told me she was hoping she would be the next one. One of my biggest desires had been to have sex with a black girl, so of course I was interested. When I felt I was ready, I searched for her, and since I'm exhibitionist, we went to the cinema. She was very kind, I liked the scent of her skin and the touch of her hair, and the sex was also great.
After that, I had dinner. This is the only bad experience I had. I ate chicken breast with vegetables and rice, and I had the impression that no spices had to die for my meal. (But keep in mind that I'm Hungarian, so I'm used to spicy food.).
After some more chill, and turning down a few more girls (some of them only because of my full stomach), a blondie grabbed my attention. I went to her, and she turned out to be from Colombia. Perfect! The other biggest desire of mine was to be with a Latina. She looked a bit like Jenny Scordamaglia, and had a grande culo, as she said. We went to the cinema. She was very passionate, just as you would expect from a Latina, and she kissed me many times. She was the last girl for me that day, but only chronologically, not in quality.
I have read that some people complained lately about the girls. I don't agree, all the girls I was with were at least 9's, and I saw none who I would throw out of my bed. And yes, some of them are pushy, but "maybe later" are the magic words to make them leave you alone. I had a great experience, and if I visit Berlin again, I want to return.
Going to assume with the euro tournament coming the selection is going to be incredible.
Yesterday it was first game in Berlin. Any information how it was in Artemis yesterday?
Whats the official 2024 artemis club price for 1 girl 1 hour. I've been away for a while. Thanks sv.
is it true that frankfurt fkk is now officially 200//hour??
[QUOTE=Pacman93;2923154]Yesterday it was first game in Berlin. Any information how it was in Artemis yesterday?[/QUOTE]One girl I talked to at one club in Munich area said that after the game the place got filled. I'm assuming this was true in most clubs especially after a victory!
[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;2923622]Whats the official 2024 artemis club price for 1 girl 1 hour.[/QUOTE]30 min /70 Euro, 60 min /140 Euro, some extra fees apply. The girl should tell you about extras, otherwise ask in advance.
[QUOTE=Pacman93;2923154]Yesterday it was first game in Berlin. Any information how it was in Artemis yesterday?[/QUOTE]Usually it's more busy than usual the days before a match takes place. E. g. The days before Croatia vs. Spain match the place was packed with people from Croatia.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2924229]30 min /70 Euro, 60 min /140 Euro, some extra fees apply. The girl should tell you about extras, otherwise ask in advance.[/QUOTE]Wow. Cheaper than Frankfurt now. Sharks has many girls that insist upon 200/ hour though some of the less pretty, less busy girls will accept 150/ hour. Nearly all Hessen clubs now require 100/30. Hadn't realised Artemis, once the most expensive club, has lagged behind.
is dfk on offer at artemis these days?
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2924248]Wow. Cheaper than Frankfurt now. Sharks has many girls that insist upon 200/ hour though some of the less pretty, less busy girls will accept 150/ hour. Nearly all Hessen clubs now require 100/30. Hadn't realised Artemis, once the most expensive club, has lagged behind.[/QUOTE]I made the exact same observation in my post in this thread on May 13 2023.
Since then I have made a couple more visits to Artemis and made a few more conclusions and observations. The girls definitely skew older and more 'porno' looking than the Hessen clubs. Fewer slim all-natural girls (if any, on some nights). Kino remains in good use. Maybe not for full-sessions but people do seem happy to get oral service on a regular basis there. The show dancers are pretty talented however it's frustrating that they also tend to be more attractive than 95% of the working girls. However we must give the management credit for investing in their atmosphere. Cleanliness and food remain good, whereas some Hessen clubs seem to have let things slip in these areas. I have never experienced the outdoors at Artimes when it was in full swing. I'm not sure anyone ever uses it. If I can make time this summer I would like to see what it's like out there on a nice summer day. Anyways. Nothing new in the post. Just felt like rounding up my assessment of this place, triggered by the OPs familiar sentiment. If anything has changed in the last year or so since I've been there would love to be corrected.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2924248]Wow. Cheaper than Frankfurt now. Sharks has many girls that insist upon 200/ hour though some of the less pretty, less busy girls will accept 150/ hour. Nearly all Hessen clubs now require 100/30. Hadn't realised Artemis, once the most expensive club, has lagged behind.[/QUOTE]If I understand well: 70/30 is for just CBJ and fuck with pornstyles, when You can get GFE and BBBJ with few woman looks for 150/60 at Sharks. Just have to find among quantity, at Sharks. In Germany, I m weekly used to 150/60 for real GFE with girls who show me they really want to please me back.
[QUOTE=FakeIt;2924347]Kino remains in good use. Maybe not for full-sessions but people do seem happy to get oral service on a regular basis there.[/QUOTE]Do they still have two kinos? I remember a nicely furnished one on the main level, and downstairs a more stark, sleazy, very open one.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2924830]Do they still have two kinos? I remember a nicely furnished one on the main level, and downstairs a more stark, sleazy, very open one.[/QUOTE]Exactly as described.
Hey lads, anyone seen Avril working at Artemis lately? (Pale, red-haired Romanian in her 30's who's worked there for many years.) Cheers!
[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2926058]Hey lads, anyone seen Avril working at Artemis lately? (Pale, red-haired Romanian in her 30's who's worked there for many years.) Cheers![/QUOTE]I've spotted her there lately midth of February. But that doesn't have to mean anything.
[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2926058]Hey lads, anyone seen Avril working at Artemis lately? (Pale, red-haired Romanian in her 30's who's worked there for many years.) Cheers![/QUOTE]With big scars for silicon?
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2926141]I've spotted her there lately midth of February. But that doesn't have to mean anything.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the info. She's my Artemis ATF in both looks and service and plan to pop in at the end of the month to see if she's still around.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2926148]With big scars for silicon?[/QUOTE]That's weird. I thought that you have never visited Artemis so curious to know how you would have known Avril? She does have a nice set of silicon tits but not sure about the 'big scars' comment.
BTW, anyone know if Even/Evan is still there? I would be tempted to pop in to see her if she is.
[QUOTE=Howie;2926884]That's weird. I thought that you have never visited Artemis so curious to know how you would have known Avril? She does have a nice set of silicon tits but not sure about the 'big scars' comment.
BTW, anyone know if Even/Evan is still there? I would be tempted to pop in to see her if she is.[/QUOTE]When I m not into silicon nor tattoes, I think Artemis is not for me, when I missed Geraldine. Hu years ago. Isn t Avril. Ro with redhair and silicon, not so skinny, who worked at Bruggen years ago?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2926993]Isn t Avril. Ro with redhair and silicon, not so skinny, who worked at Bruggen years ago?[/QUOTE]Not so skinny, but still quite slim. That's her.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2926993]When I m not into silicon nor tattoes, I think Artemis is not for me, when I missed Geraldine. Hu years ago. Isn t Avril. Ro with redhair and silicon, not so skinny, who worked at Bruggen years ago?[/QUOTE]Interesting. Never knew she had worked in Goldentime Bruggen. Only knew her as a regular at Artemis. Great memories of taking her up the ass. She loved it. Above average looks and a top service provider. Very chatty too.
So anyone have updates on Evan/Even? If not then too bad as I would have been keen to see her again.
[QUOTE=Howie;2927512]Interesting. Never knew she had worked in Goldentime Bruggen. Only knew her as a regular at Artemis. Great memories of taking her up the ass. She loved it. Above average looks and a top service provider. Very chatty too.
So anyone have updates on Evan/Even? If not then too bad as I would have been keen to see her again.[/QUOTE]I think at Bruggen in 2014/2015 and she was not 18 . A real veteran in this business. A bit like at Aphrodisia Zurich, Artemis seem to be elephants cemetary.
How's the Euro affecting Artemis? I am sure there are massive 'fans' coming in with the intention to 'score' as many 'goals' as possible. How's that affecting the prices and the overall availability / mood / attitude of the girls? The ratio is going to be massively imbalanced. What have you guys observed?
Could someone confirm its 140// HR at artemis.
Could I also get a breakdown on the cost of all extras. dfk. is owo. extra. Anal and anything else.
I need to plan a trip very quickly help much appreciated.
[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;2928213]Could someone confirm its 140// HR at artemis.
Could I also get a breakdown on the cost of all extras. dfk. is owo. extra. Anal and anything else.
I need to plan a trip very quickly help much appreciated.[/QUOTE]As per the search bar you can find out how much BBBJ is. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/search.php?searchid=15559272[/URL].
Same principle applies for confirming other extras.
[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;2928213]Could someone confirm its 140// HR at artemis.
Could I also get a breakdown on the cost of all extras. dfk. is owo. extra. Anal and anything else.
[/QUOTE]Confirm 140 per hour. Only a few girls try to charge more, they will tell you in advance. Refuse and pick another. BBBJ 20. CIM 50. Anal 100. Ask for anything else.
Don't visit A if you're short of bucks, it may be disappointing. Just my two cents.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2928637]Confirm 140 per hour. Only a few girls try to charge more, they will tell you in advance. Refuse and pick another. BBBJ 20. CIM 50. Anal 100. Ask for anything else.
Don't visit A if you're short of bucks, it may be disappointing. Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]Don't post if you are short of reports, it may smells like trolling.
Seeing all the rich guys becoming poor in Artemis is usually worth a visit. Just my senf here.
How many girls can I find in artemis?
We (husband & wife) had been to Berlin, went to Insomnia and pornokinos. Wanted to try Kitkat & Artemis.
Are couples allowed in Artemis?
Hello!
For me, GFE is a bundle of multiple things, at DFK / LFK is not the finial bench mark for that.
Engaging Conversations: Having meaningful, connecting conversations, showing 'genuine' interest in the other person's life, thoughts, feelings, and experiences. Active listening is another key thing: paying close attention to what the other person says, responding thoughtfully, and remembering details from the from the earlier discussion.
And, then personalized attention- tailoring interactions based on the other person's preferences, interests, and desires to make the experience feel more personal and special.
Without these, even if I DFK / LFK, I won't call it as GFE, as I don't find the GFE elements in that.
So, when I used the term GFE. It included all / some of the things mentioned above. During my visit, I felt like kissing only one lady on her lips, and she was okay with that, as I was paying extra.
I was offered even golden showers and CIM. So am sure with extra payment you will get DFK / LFK too.
[QUOTE=Yoyoma47;2919530]Thanks for the review Deepak. You said that a few of the girls were "GFE". Does this include kissing (DFK or at least LFK)? Many other reviews state that you won't get kissing anymore. What was your experience?[/QUOTE]
I missed mentioning the dancer, in my last report!!
During my last visit, there were three girls, who were performing pole dancing. One of them. A short hair lady. WOW. She was truly SPEACHLESS! What a beauty. What an elegance. What an amusing dancing skills!! Dreamy eyes, and she does know, how to move her body in the most sedative ways, not only while dancing, While walking around too.
After watching her first dance, I shamelessly approached her, but she said she only does dancing. Nothing else.
Sex in the shower is nothing to write home about, but taking a shower with a lady, lathering her up and her lathering you up. That can be very erotic. I also like knowing I've washed of any previous dude's saliva from her nether regions to I can dine on a fresh peach as it were.
Anyone seen whether ladies sometimes accompany men in the shower in Artemis? I had one accompany me at LaFolie, but never asked in Artemis. Are there perhaps showers down by the sauna that would be convenient for this?
[QUOTE=DeepakSa;2932967]I missed mentioning the dancer, in my last report!!
During my last visit, there were three girls, who were performing pole dancing. One of them. A short hair lady. WOW. She was truly SPEACHLESS! What a beauty. What an elegance. What an amusing dancing skills!! Dreamy eyes, and she does know, how to move her body in the most sedative ways, not only while dancing, While walking around too.
After watching her first dance, I shamelessly approached her, but she said she only does dancing. Nothing else.[/QUOTE]The the dancers at Artemis are certainly talented.
They also tend to also be the most attractive women in the club. Net effect; frustrated customers and jealous working girls.
Enjoy the show.
Hello all!
Might do a visit to this establishment later this year, never been before.
I do have some questions that might been answered somewhere in this thread so sorry if any of them been answered many times before but I just felt easier to compile them all, thanks.
1: when paying for any service, do you bring cash with you or do you lock that as well and then "withdraw" after any session?
2: I'm not super comfortable with the OWO due to the risk of getting any STD but it feels like the majority go for this option, is it safe? Is it safer to receive? Do the girls "do" anything before doing this act? Are they pushing for doing OWO or are they fine if you don't want that?
3: If going OWO, CIM would be a nice finish but if not, does the girls, or majority of them offer CIF also? Price?
4: I understand that there's a lot of Eastern European girls, but how does the selection of Black / Latina / Asian girls look like?
5: if I want to re-enter later the same day, what will I have to do?
Thanks for any help!
Read the reports man. This is covered so many times. But.
Lock and withdraw.
Most won't push CIM, but they offer it. ANd not all offer it.
Have you been to see an escort before, if you're not comfortable then just don't do it!
CIF? You mean "on" Everything is available for price. I think it's the same or even less than OWO, but who knows. And if you are worried about OWO, why would you want CIF.
Very rarely do you get Black / Asian etc. Maybe a single of each, maybe two.
Go to the website and check. Most FKKs offer this, you need to tell them at the desk. At least ask when you arrive.
[QUOTE=ConanConan;2933555]Hello all!
Might do a visit to this establishment later this year, never been before.
I do have some questions that might been answered somewhere in this thread so sorry if any of them been answered many times before but I just felt easier to compile them all, thanks.
1: when paying for any service, do you bring cash with you or do you lock that as well and then "withdraw" after any session?
2: I'm not super comfortable with the OWO due to the risk of getting any STD but it feels like the majority go for this option, is it safe? Is it safer to receive? Do the girls "do" anything before doing this act? Are they pushing for doing OWO or are they fine if you don't want that?
3: If going OWO, CIM would be a nice finish but if not, does the girls, or majority of them offer CIF also? Price?
4: I understand that there's a lot of Eastern European girls, but how does the selection of Black / Latina / Asian girls look like?
5: if I want to re-enter later the same day, what will I have to do?
Thanks for any help![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wikman;2933059]Sex in the shower is nothing to write home about, but taking a shower with a lady, lathering her up and her lathering you up. That can be very erotic. I also like knowing I've washed of any previous dude's saliva from her nether regions to I can dine on a fresh peach as it were.
Anyone seen whether ladies sometimes accompany men in the shower in Artemis? I had one accompany me at LaFolie, but never asked in Artemis. Are there perhaps showers down by the sauna that would be convenient for this?[/QUOTE]Never had this before, have had many offers after over the years. As I said above, if you want something ask? Everyone has a price for a service or if not, then simply a no. If she takes a shower it's just time and money. Probably wants to make sure you won't get her hair and make up messed up.
I am finishing the Berlin leg of my Vienna-Prague-Berlin-Amsterdam tour. Given that I understand Amsterdam is dead I wanted to get as much out of my brief stay in Berlin as possible. I have to say Artemis met that objective.
Needless to say, as an American making his first FKK visit the experience was unique. Certainly, if you like Eastern European girls with comically large implants this place is heaven. There were probably 50 girls there and almost all were better-looking than most of the girls I met in Prague and Vienna. Some beautiful girls with pretty faces and great bodies, but so many would have looked better with their natural tits and / or without Botox lips. Disappointing to see so many girls walk by looking like they had artillery shells mounted on their chests that don't even jiggle when they walk. Still, something for everyone and there were a number of girls who I thought were very good-looking. I ended up doing 3 half hour sessions with one duo, so 3 nuts, 4 mouths, and 4 vaginas. Each girl was €90 with BBBJ. None of the girls even bothered offering CBJ for €70.
I probably spent close to 6 hours there and enjoyed the range of facilities. Sunday is senior discount day, so only €50 entry. I enjoyed the sauna, pool, hot tub, and the "BBQ party" by the pool (sausage, pork, fries, and a few side dishes. I saw the kino but wasn't interested unless one of the girls wanted to visit with me (none did). Probably took more showers and used more towels than I ever have in one day.
In terms of the girls, I saw a few hanging out in the stairwell with guys at the videogame right outside the lounge, and one or two hanging out on couches in the lounge with guys, but overall they seemed to either be attached to their girlfriends or just sit at the bar looking glum. Very little flirtation other than the girls who come up and ask where you're from and do you want to go upstairs, and they generally weren't the top picks. I was surprised at how little time they were willing to invest to get a guy to spend the money to get a room. I saw one girl I liked standing around and asked her to come sit with me. She said "No, we can stay here. " I asked her to come sit and talk for a minute and we can get a room and she said "No, we can talk here". I told her I was going to sit and walked away. Later I went upstairs with another girl and she was still standing there. She turned down a €90 session because she wouldn't take 5 steps, sit down, and talk for a minute.
Unfortunately that kind of attitude seems typical. It seems like they have an unwritten agreement that the clients have to do everything their way. During my duo I asked the girls to get on their knees so I could see their asses side by side. One girl says "No. I show you my pussy while you fuck my friend doggy". I asked another girl to suck as me while I stood my the side of the bed and she said "No. You lie down and I suck you". I told another girl I wanted to finish doggy and she told me she didn't do doggy. In my life I think I have met one other girl who refused to do doggy, and she was a date (not paid). They all gave good enough BBBJ (one of the girls from the duo was definitely better than the others), and they all fucked well enough (even the one who wouldn't do doggy), but all of the services were professional and businesslike.
Overall the selection of good-looking women and the experience of watching so many girls wandering around naked in high heels is hard to beat, and I certainly have no regrets, but I am still kind of laughing at the attitude I got from so many of them.
If any other first-timers read this, a few things to think about. I walked in with nothing but my wallet. If you are at all shy about walking around in a robe with your dick out, bring a swimsuit or gym shorts. Plenty of guys were wearing them in the lounge, pool, etc. My advice is to not do anything the first hour until you have wandered around, relaxed a bit, and checked out all the options. Don't be afraid to say no or maybe later. When you are ready pick the girl you like; don't let the girls pick you. If there is something you want, be very specific about it. Standard is BBBJ and straight sex. Anything more than that, ask, and definitely don't go for the "we can discuss that in the room", which one girl tried. Expect business-like, professional service, and nothing more. Maybe you will get lucky and find some special girl and fall in love, but don't count on it. Find a girl whose looks turn you on and just enjoy your time getting service from a pretty girl at a reasonable price.
Overall, a very memorable night.
For sure, Berlin worth to visit, but reading below, really not sure Artemis is best for first FKK visit, except if you are into porn. I think many other clubs with more welcoming behavior from girls in Germany. Can still find in Germany full natural girls, mostly Romanians but also few Germans, with lovely behavior.
Well, I wanted the experience and I got the experience LOL. I have no regrets about it. Next trip I won't even pretend to be touring; I will just go to the cities with the best girls.
[QUOTE=JayWonEm;2936847]Well, I wanted the experience and I got the experience LOL. I have no regrets about it. Next trip I won't even pretend to be touring; I will just go to the cities with the best girls.[/QUOTE]I think Artemis like Sharks now and Globe are clubs to fuck tourists, even Sunday entry seem a good deal. Best value is NRW but better to have a car.
[QUOTE=JayWonEm;2936728]Needless to say, as an American making his first FKK visit the experience was unique.[/QUOTE]As a fellow American, I can agree that visiting an FKK for the first time is quite eye opening. My first time was as Sharks, and you can read my review here: [URL="http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt&p=2631868&viewfull=1#post2631868"]here[/URL].
We really don't have anything close to FKKs in America. Europeans are spoiled for choice in the fuck game.
I've been to Sharks a few times after that first one, and I've also been to Globe Club in Zurich. While an FKK never gets old, I have found myself getting more picky. I always go with the girls who I am the most strongly attracted to, but I also try to match with the ones I vibe with, too. As you said, avoid the girls who approach you. Those are the ones that usually aren't attractive or provide bad service so they have to work extra hard to get bookings. You're also spot on in negotiating everything up front and not waiting until you're in the room. Your negotiating power goes down once you're in a room with a naked girl.
I'll be visiting Germany later this year, and I'm looking forward to experiencing Artemis for the first time and checking out Oase (instead of Sharks) in Frankfurt.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2936920]I think Artemis like Sharks now and Globe are clubs to fuck tourists, even Sunday entry seem a good deal. Best value is NRW but better to have a car.[/QUOTE]So here is the story on the last day of my monger rampage thru Europe. It was a hot sunny day so I went to Artemis FKK to enjoy the pool after having been there last night with great success as there was 1:1 boy, girl ratio. So I bought a swim suit there and went direct to pool. On my way I spot a thin blond who'd easily demand 600,700 in NYC. Let's put it this way. Slim would have blown his load on the spot! I passed on her as I wanted to get to pool but she said to hit her up later. Pool was fantastic. Imagine being at a hotel pool with chicks lying around naked spreading legs to show pussy. Talked to two who tried to get me to do 3 sum but I wanted to lie on the sun and swim. After 90 min I go back to bar but my blond was gone. To my dismay I realized ratio was like 7 men to 1 girl.
Sunday afternoon after all. And worse the girls were a 5 or 6 at best. I passed on all. Back to pool. After 30 min I see my blond. She tells me she has to see a client so come back in 30 min. I come back and no blond. So I wait in dark bar another 30 min pissed off I'm missing pool. Finally she comes out. (Client extended) Go room with her and pinched myself. How can ugly fat me be fucking this?? 30 min 100.
I go. Total cost with taxi 250. Enter fee 100. No regrets.
I have been to Artemis several times, but have always been a little price conscious, so I have only asked for Anal once before.
I have decided to be a lot less price sensitive on my next visit and go only with ladies who do anal. Hence my question: Approximately what is the ratio of Yes / No where anal is concerned?
[QUOTE=Wikman;2942374]I have been to Artemis several times, but have always been a little price conscious, so I have only asked for Anal once before. I have decided to be a lot less price sensitive on my next visit and go only with ladies who do anal. Hence my question: Approximately what is the ratio of Yes / No where anal is concerned?[/QUOTE]I've had a lot of success getting anal in Germany in general. When I first started going approximately 40% of my sessions included anal. But then in the later years the percentage jumped significantly to match my Brazil LAA (Lifetime Anal Average) of 70% of my tutes getting butt fucked during my sessions. I don't have a breakdown by establishment but by country only. That said, some of my most memorable anal sessions of all time occurred at Artemis (as well as throughout Germany).
[QUOTE=Pokler;2942238]Go room with her and pinched myself. How can ugly fat me be fucking this?? 30 min 100.
I go. Total cost with taxi 250. Enter fee 100. No regrets.[/QUOTE]This is the way.
This is why we play the game, eh? We fuck beauties who would be impossible to even inhabit the same room with under normal circumstances.
Money over everything.
Pussy over money.
[QUOTE=Pokler;2942238] How can ugly fat me be fucking this??[/QUOTE]Speak for yourself! LOL!
[QUOTE=Pokler;2942238]So here is the story on the last day of my monger rampage thru Europe. It was a hot sunny day so I went to Artemis FKK to enjoy the pool after having been there last night with great success as there was 1:1 boy, girl ratio. So I bought a swim suit there and went direct to pool. On my way I spot a thin blond who'd easily demand 600,700 in NYC. Let's put it this way. Slim would have blown his load on the spot! I passed on her as I wanted to get to pool but she said to hit her up later. Pool was fantastic. Imagine being at a hotel pool with chicks lying around naked spreading legs to show pussy. Talked to two who tried to get me to do 3 sum but I wanted to lie on the sun and swim. After 90 min I go back to bar but my blond was gone. To my dismay I realized ratio was like 7 men to 1 girl.
Sunday afternoon after all. And worse the girls were a 5 or 6 at best. I passed on all. Back to pool. After 30 min I see my blond. She tells me she has to see a client so come back in 30 min. I come back and no blond. So I wait in dark bar another 30 min pissed off I'm missing pool. Finally she comes out. (Client extended) Go room with her and pinched myself. How can ugly fat me be fucking this?? 30 min 100.
I go. Total cost with taxi 250. Enter fee 100. No regrets.[/QUOTE]In US, your standards are low for beauty, compare to Europe and imagine if You visited deep Russia with most beautiful Caucasians, some wow Tatar and Eurasians. Good if You found a good one for You: no silicon nor tattoes? 100/30 is Ok if FK and BBBJ with a beauty. Bad for You if You feel You are ugly, not good to be confident with women, when I always feel girls are lucky I choose them. In FKK, I often look in mirror, girls telling: You are beautiful.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2936920]I think Artemis like Sharks now and Globe are clubs to fuck tourists, even Sunday entry seem a good deal. Best value is NRW but better to have a car.[/QUOTE]What are the top spots in NRW now? Golden Time and Living Room seem to be a shadow of what they once were.
[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2942567]What are the top spots in NRW now? Golden Time and Living Room seem to be a shadow of what they once were.[/QUOTE]LR is closed and Bruggen burned. Best quality for me in FKK land, for rooms, sex in garden and few girls is GG, 150/60 for real GFE for me. For some really pretty girls far prettier than at Sharks and Globe, Magnum, even a bit complicated there for rate. For good value for money, Penelope on Friday and Saturday after 7 pm and maybe Samya where management work for girls rate. Better for me than Hessen or Globe.
Haven't been here in a while. Went to Artemis pre-covid and had a great time.
I read that since then things are on a decline.
Am visiting Europe again and thought of swinging by Artemis. Unfortunately, can only do so on a Tues night. Does anyone know how many girls typically will be available on a Tues night?
Also deciding if I should just skip Artemis altogether and head to Sharks instead.
Appreciate any advice!
[QUOTE=Intrepid888;2949578]Haven't been here in a while. Went to Artemis pre-covid and had a great time.
I read that since then things are on a decline.
Am visiting Europe again and thought of swinging by Artemis. Unfortunately, can only do so on a Tues night. Does anyone know how many girls typically will be available on a Tues night?
Also deciding if I should just skip Artemis altogether and head to Sharks instead.
Appreciate any advice![/QUOTE]Are you going to be in Berlin? If you are just going to go for FKK go to Sharks. You can find good girls at Artemis but more at Sharks.
[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2949667]Are you going to be in Berlin? If you are just going to go for FKK go to Sharks. You can find good girls at Artemis but more at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Mostly average looks now at Sharks, for more expensive than at Artemis. Sharks is for tourist in mind. At least, Berlin is interesting to visit.
[QUOTE=Intrepid888;2949578]Haven't been here in a while. Went to Artemis pre-covid and had a great time.
I read that since then things are on a decline.
Am visiting Europe again and thought of swinging by Artemis. Unfortunately, can only do so on a Tues night. Does anyone know how many girls typically will be available on a Tues night?
Also deciding if I should just skip Artemis altogether and head to Sharks instead.
Appreciate any advice![/QUOTE]Less than 50 for sure. Unless you're already visiting Berlin, I don't think going specifically for Artemis is ever warranted. It's more of a, "I'm passing through Berlin, why not check it out?" type of place.
After a few years away I got the chance to pay my first visit to the Artemis on Friday. I arrived about 14.00 and found it pretty quiet. Maybe 20-25 girls and 15 men, the atmosphere was pretty subdued as well. I can remember previous Friday visits where even early in the day it would be really active.
First impressions was that not much has changed. The old locker keys are now electronic fobs and it costs 90 to get in but otherwise it was as I remembered, the main bar still being a total smoke-box.
I drank some coffee and knocked back a few aggressive approaches before deciding it was time for my first session. I saw a really pretty, dark-haired girl sitting at the bar and went to chat. After a few minutes we headed up stairs.
[B]Alex / Alexandria (German and Slovakian I think)[/B] She has long dark hair, quite pale complexion, a decent Bush which was unusual for an Artemis girl and enhanced tits but they look and feel incredible and move really naturally. She told me she had only been at The A. For 3 months and was just getting used to the life.
We spent an hour together, no extras just a really great session. She was wonderful company and a definite repeat if I'm ever back.
After a massage and some dinner I went looking for my next target. I saw a really fine blonde walking the floor and grabbed her for a chat and we soon headed upstairs.
[B]Nicole from Czech Republic. [/B] Long blonde hair, big natural tits, little bit of a belly. Basically an all round knock-out. We spent over an hour together. She brought her toys and her strap-on and we had a great time. Total with a few extras was 240. Definite repeat and highly recommended.
It was after 19.30 now but still relatively quiet, no wait for rooms, plenty of space in the bar etc. I stayed for a little while enjoying the sites and left just before 20.00.
Other names I picked up Laurena and Laura from Columbia, Emma and a girl with huge circular fake tits with a playboy bunny on her chest.
I don't know if I'll ever get back but if this is my last visit it was a great one.
Thanks for reading.
[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2950071]Less than 50 for sure. Unless you're already visiting Berlin, I don't think going specifically for Artemis is ever warranted. It's more of a, "I'm passing through Berlin, why not check it out?" type of place.[/QUOTE]Which is your go to FKK for which you won't mind travelling?
[QUOTE=Sb1990;2952602]Which is your go to FKK for which you won't mind travelling?[/QUOTE]I've been doing P4 P trips for 20 years, since I was 25.
If my trip is a Euro trip I always start in Frankfurt with Sharks, Oase, Palace and Mainhatten.
That will get me through my first week.
Then I'll either go to NRW and hit the clubs in Dusseldorf, Cologne, etc where they are a bit cheaper and gems can be found.
The only downside is they aren't fully nude. The girls where lingerie / bikini's, but I can have just as much fun!
If my trip is to Asia, I always start in Bangkok Thailand and then Pattaya after a couple days.
Then I might head to Cambodia and then Vietnam. Not as much P4 P in Vietnam, but the women are beautiful!
[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2952705]I've been doing P4 P trips for 20 years, since I was 25.
If my trip is a Euro trip I always start in Frankfurt with Sharks, Oase, Palace and Mainhatten.
That will get me through my first week.
Then I'll either go to NRW and hit the clubs in Dusseldorf, Cologne, etc where they are a bit cheaper and gems can be found.
The only downside is they aren't fully nude. The girls where lingerie / bikini's, but I can have just as much fun!
If my trip is to Asia, I always start in Bangkok Thailand and then Pattaya after a couple days.
Then I might head to Cambodia and then Vietnam. Not as much P4 P in Vietnam, but the women are beautiful![/QUOTE]Vietnam beauties are at a different level, if one likes short, slim, doll type girls. I am so much confused, if I should go to Germany / Switzerland (FKKs), Colombia / Brazil or Vietnam. For me Colombia / Brazil is like finding a needle in a haystack, as I am quite picky in the looks. Whereas in Vietnam you can find likeable girls at every 100 meters.
Also, Colombians / Brazilians were my favourites, but after my trip to Vietnam in Jun-2024, it changed me a lot. I found my type of girls in bulk there.
Helllo Punters. I am planning to visit Germany specially to experience FKK clubs. Looking that it would be winter, will there be decent action or should I cancel my trip?
I was on a trip to Berlin and ended up going to Artemis last Thursday and Friday. I had five sessions in two days. The 30 min pricing is $70 basic (suck and fuck with all covered), $90 (owo+fuck). Many girls are not willing to kiss and not allow pussy licking even for 90430. I found it interesting because they are willing to suck men's dick w / o cover, but are not willing to kiss. Not sure the logic here. Well anyway. Another thing that I dislike is that some are not fully naked (with panty hose on or something alike) and will not take off during sessions. Anyway, here is what I had:
Thu:
Nicole from Cezch: A very busty girl with fake blond hair. The session was ok. She doesn't do kissing and pussy licking, so I went the basic 70 Euro all covered.
Ginger from Malta: great body. We had 90430. She didn't do kissing but allowed pussy licking. The session was pretty good.
Samy (or Jennifer? I forgot her name) from Croatia: The best session among the three. 90430. She did light kissing and allowed pussy licking. We had great time together.
Fri:
Marianna from Romania: she has great ass but tried to rush. No kissing and pussy licking, so I told her to only do 70430. After getting a covered BJ, I told her to do doggie position. She laid on her stomach, and I came in from her rear. About 5 minutes in, she said she's tired and couldn't hold the position (what the heck? Then she said I need to finish in missionary, but my cock couldn't get hard at this point. She took the cover off and jerked me off. This is the worst session at Artemis (but not the worst for this trip which is in FKKSunshine).
Lena from Hamburg, DE: She is even more busty than Nicole. She is good lay but didn't do kissing and pussy licking. 90430 with owo and doggie to finish. Perhaps she was tired or something, she didn't show too much interest but got the job done anyway.
Overall, from good to bad, this is the order: Samy, Ginger, Nicole, Lena, Marianna. I still think Artemis is the best FKK I visited (shark, samya, sunshine, golden time), but my lung is still recovering from all the 2nd hand smoke around bar area.
Easiest way to make cum WGs is on clit, some don t want because pimp or BF, some are funny: looking, like thinking what are You doing, then when they feel, letting go, then saying thank You and kissing like a GF after. Good game and they don t look You like others after.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2953379]Easiest way to make cum WGs is on clit, some don t want because pimp or BF, some are funny: looking, like thinking what are You doing, then when they feel, letting go, then saying thank You and kissing like a GF after. Good game and they don t look You like others after.[/QUOTE]But some are kaput after. I remember some of my regulars telling: I can't work now after you and taking long time after our rooms, sometimes 45/60 mn, before returning to business, but we repeated. Also a pretty, natural one at Oase, who had big pain after cumming, so I told her: tell me just before, but she couldn't control and almost cried after orgasm, same like some have very painful period. Some multiorgasmic, a German explaining me how to make her squirting, when she felt my DATY.
I paid the 90 EUR entry fee and walked into Artemis with high hopes. However, I left disappointed.
Miriam.
Cost: 140 EUR (90 EUR basic service and 50 EUR for CIM).
Physical: Tall and very attractive Romanian spinner with blonde hair.
Notes: Didn't like it when I squeezed her ass. Said she was skinny and that she didn't want me to break her. Rode me in reverse cowgirl, and I enjoyed the view. Did doggy, but she only let me go halfway in and stopped after a few strokes. I laid down, and she gave me a BBBJ until I erupted into her mouth. She spat my was on the towel and the bed and exclaimed that I filled her mouth with a liter.
Dahlia.
Cost: 100 EUR (special pricing).
Physical: Fairly tall Romanian brunette, very attractive.
Notes: Used to work at Sharks. Said that my dick was too big to fuck her. Offered to do 140 EUR for CIM, I said that I didn't want to pay 140 EUR and not fuck. She said she would do 100 EUR for CIM but to not tell anyone because she's supposed to fuck all of her customers. Had her get into 69 so I could see her pretty pussy (assuring her I wouldn't lick it). Rubbed her asshole and pussy while she gave me a BBBJ. She got tired after a while and then got back between my legs. Sucked and I then started jacking myself off. I told her I was about to cum, and she leaned over and sucked me catching my load in her mouth. She said I gave her a half liter. Dahlia asked me to wish her many Asian customers. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]
Yasmine.
Cost: 90 EUR.
Physical: Romanian, Skinny with lots of tattoos and obvious man mades. Too much with the lip injections but had a very sexy body. Fake breasts felt like water balloons.
Notes: Gave the best head of the night. She would run her tongue over my frenulum when she was sucking my dick. Rode me in cowgirl. Said I had to go slow in doggy, but once I got going she let me pound her, and she seemed to really like it. Was preserving my nut so I didn't cum.
Mikki.
Cost: 140 EUR.
Physical: Moldovan spinner with small breasts and nice nipples. Very attractive.
Session Summary: LFK DFK BBBJ BLS CG RCG K9 MISH CIM.
Notes: Best session of the night. She rode me, we did missionary, and I wanted to do doggy but she would only lay on her side and let me enter her from behind. She said she had an orgasm this way. Let me pound her pretty hard. Busted in her mouth. Gave me great eye contact throughout the session.
Having been to Sharks in Frankfurt and Globe in Zurich, I can say that both are way better than Artemis. Artemis is a small facility with poor food, and the fact that no kissing is allowed was terrible. Also, the girls all had the same formula: no kissing, suck me hard, put on a condom, try to get me to cum as soon as possible.
If I ever go to Artemis again, I will avoid the Romanians and go with the Moldovans, Bulgarians, and other countries.
A couple of days later I went to Royal Bordell and fucked Linda ([URL]https://royalgirl.de/profil/linda-traum-der-lust/[/URL]) and July Sun ([URL]https://royalgirl.de/profil/july-sun-erotiksternchen/[/URL]). I later found out that July Sun used to be a true porn star with many videos of her. She loved anal, and I couldn't believe that I went to Europe and almost fucked a porn star in the ass in multiple positions.
I wish I would have fucked more girls at Royal Bordell than at Artemis. At Royal, kissing seemed to be standard, and the sex seemed more natural. They both licked my balls which is something that none of the girls at Artemis did. I came in Linda and July Sun's mouths, and even anal was cheaper than at Artemis. While Dahlia asked for more Asian and Indian men, July Sun said she preferred Black men because she liked big dicks.
Is it correct to argue that most of the top quality girls of Artemis (especially the German ones), have left Artemis to OnlyFans, where they could make much more money, in a shorter time, with much less effort?
[QUOTE=VonderJohn;2963165]Is it correct to argue that most of the top quality girls of Artemis (especially the German ones), have left Artemis to OnlyFans, where they could make much more money, in a shorter time, with much less effort?[/QUOTE]Hopefully they don't become victims of "digital violence against women". It's a huge problem nowadays and not a fantastic war against these monsters called men.
[QUOTE=Atanion;2962709] ... While Dahlia asked for more Asian and Indian men, July Sun said she preferred Black men because she liked big dicks.[/QUOTE]This is a very sad destiny brother. Being discriminated by these women who actually need protection without knowing something about it, only because you are a man of colour carrying a huge huge piece of meat around. Hope your feelings are not hurt to much brother. I mean you know and I know, men are only human looking for some club love in this world of warlords and religious God idiots who only want to destroy what they hate.
Tip them girls next time, like you are a lobbyist in German Bundestag, where you find the big money professionals.
Nice realistic report.
[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2965165]This is a very sad destiny brother. Being discriminated by these women who actually need protection without knowing something about it, only because you are a man of colour carrying a huge huge piece of meat around. Hope your feelings are not hurt to much brother. I mean you know and I know, men are only human looking for some club love in this world of warlords and religious God idiots who only want to destroy what they hate. Tip them girls next time, like you are a lobbyist in German Bundestag, where you find the big money professionals. Nice realistic report.[/QUOTE]And some don't like men of color for the same reason. Dick too big! Hurts. Especially in the anus!
[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2965165]This is a very sad destiny brother. Being discriminated by these women who actually need protection without knowing something about it, only because you are a man of colour carrying a huge huge piece of meat around. Hope your feelings are not hurt to much brother. I mean you know and I know, men are only human looking for some club love in this world of warlords and religious God idiots who only want to destroy what they hate.
Tip them girls next time, like you are a lobbyist in German Bundestag, where you find the big money professionals.
Nice realistic report.[/QUOTE]I am just curious how PumDiPum is not being clearly argumentative. I honestly don't even know why I was accessed a point for being so. If The Cane remembers the post I made that got deleted on the San Jose forum I am curious what I wrote. Argumentative can be a broad brush. It seems like a catch all phrase for something someone says that someone doesn't like. On the FKK general info forum he was calling people monsters.
[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2965336]I am just curious how PumDiPum is not being clearly argumentative. I honestly don't even know why I was accessed a point for being so. If The Cane remembers the post I made that got deleted on the San Jose forum I am curious what I wrote. Argumentative can be a broad brush. It seems like a catch all phrase for something someone says that someone doesn't like. On the FKK general info forum he was calling people monsters.[/QUOTE]I think I figured out. It is the part about making posts directed at other forum members or membership in general. Anyway calling forum members monsters with penises in the lounge and chat area falls under that umbrella.
I might make a visit but it would need to be on a Thursday in the early afternoon (around 1-3 pm maybe). I realize my choice of girls will be less. Any recommendations on girls that typically work during this time or ones to avoid? Any ideal places to sit? I remember a pretty detailed map in the sharks forum when I visited there last year.
Ideally, I like the young petite type but it's probably more important for her to not be and actually have some energy and willing to do BBBJCIM.
[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2965336]I am just curious how PumDiPum is not being clearly argumentative. I honestly don't even know why I was accessed a point for being so. If The Cane remembers the post I made that got deleted on the San Jose forum I am curious what I wrote. Argumentative can be a broad brush. It seems like a catch all phrase for something someone says that someone doesn't like. On the FKK general info forum he was calling people monsters.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2965347]I think I figured out. It is the part about making posts directed at other forum members or membership in general. Anyway calling forum members monsters with penises in the lounge and chat area falls under that umbrella.[/QUOTE]The mod police loves me or not or I have way too many points so far. LOL. (Illegal hard return. LOL).
You are not close enough. Try to think again, maybe with another brain, a non monster brain. LOL again.
Greetings from the femininity meetings.
I'm hoping to the to The A. This week. Anyone know if Nicole from Czech Republic or Alex (andria) German / Slovackian are working these days? Thanks.
Last time I visited Artemis Ginger saw me as I walked through the door and insisted that I had sex with her later while I was still fully clothed on my way to the changing room. I must have made an impression on her even though my previous visit was over 12 months ago.
Ginger from Malta: great body. We had 90430. She didn't do kissing but allowed pussy licking.
[B]Friday 7th of March[/B]
It was a really nice spring day in Berlin so where better to spend time than in a dark, smokey room. I got to the club about 13.00. It was pretty quiet but there were some fine looking woman working.
I spotted Alex at her usual spot at the end of the bar and after a quick catch-up we headed upstairs.
[B]Alex.[/B]
This was a really nice, slow GFE session. Alex is great company, a really good kisser and the sex was fantastic. I really like her look, the long dark hair really does it for me. She has stretch marks on her stomach which she keeps hidden with underwear but I find them really sexy.
Anyway, we spent an hour together and I had a great time. And I would repeat for sure.
After a bit of time I wanted to go again. I knocked back a few approachs but got talking to Alina at the bar. She has long dark hair and loads of tattoos ('No Mercy' across her chest, a large skull above her pussy and many more). Her list of extras covered pretty much every fetish; fisting, golden showers, hard domination. Something for everyone really. So we went upstairs.
[B]Alina.[/B]
We had a great hour together. She brought her dildos and strap-on and I had an awesome time. If you're looking for a proper PSE Alina is highly recommended. No kissing but everything else is on the menu, at a price of course. We spent an hour together with extras came to 300. Expensive but well worth it.
By 18.00 or so it was starting to get a little busy, there were loads of stunners in the main bar but it didn't feel like a regular Friday. Some of the girls were saying there was a convention on last week so it was busy Monday to Thursday.
For my 3rd session I fancied something different. There were a couple of really curvy, MILF types working now. And after quick chat with one we headed upstairs.
[B]? from Colombia.[/B]
I'm sure she told me her name but I can't remember it right now. She was quite short, big natural tits, big ass and a little older than most of the other women working. Probably mid 30's. If you imagine the classic porn 'MILF' this is her.
I really enjoyed this session. 30 minutes with no fancy stuff. Just a really excellent BBBJ and a long shag. Her very vocal, Spanish dirty-talk really got me going. And it was a great way to finish the day.
Lots of fun and a definite repeat.
Until next time, thanks for reading.
[QUOTE=Winston11;2988280][B]Friday 7th of March[/B]
It was a really nice spring day in Berlin so where better to spend time than in a dark, smokey room. I got to the club about 13.00. It was pretty quiet but there were some fine looking woman working.
I spotted Alex at her usual spot at the end of the bar and after a quick catch-up we headed upstairs.
[B]Alex.[/B]
This was a really nice, slow GFE session. Alex is great company, a really good kisser and the sex was fantastic. I really like her look, the long dark hair really does it for me. She has stretch marks on her stomach which she keeps hidden with underwear but I find them really sexy.
Anyway, we spent an hour together and I had a great time. And I would repeat for sure.
After a bit of time I wanted to go again. I knocked back a few approachs but got talking to Alina at the bar. She has long dark hair and loads of tattoos ('No Mercy' across her chest, a large skull above her pussy and many more). Her list of extras covered pretty much every fetish; fisting, golden showers, hard domination. Something for everyone really. So we went upstairs.
[B]Alina.[/B]
We had a great hour together. She brought her dildos and strap-on and I had an awesome time. If you're looking for a proper PSE Alina is highly recommended. No kissing but everything else is on the menu, at a price of course. We spent an hour together with extras came to 300. Expensive but well worth it.
By 18.00 or so it was starting to get a little busy, there were loads of stunners in the main bar but it didn't feel like a regular Friday. Some of the girls were saying there was a convention on last week so it was busy Monday to Thursday.
For my 3rd session I fancied something different. There were a couple of really curvy, MILF types working now. And after quick chat with one we headed upstairs.
[B]? from Colombia.[/B]
I'm sure she told me her name but I can't remember it right now. She was quite short, big natural tits, big ass and a little older than most of the other women working. Probably mid 30's. If you imagine the classic porn 'MILF' this is her.
I really enjoyed this session. 30 minutes with no fancy stuff. Just a really excellent BBBJ and a long shag. Her very vocal, Spanish dirty-talk really got me going. And it was a great way to finish the day.
Lots of fun and a definite repeat.
Until next time, thanks for reading.[/QUOTE]Extremely useful report. I'll be there in a few weeks and fancy trying Alina! Good description, I seem to remeber seeing her. There used to be a Milfy German, with some nice abs, pretty much straight GF sex, occasionally anal if you were early enough in the evening.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2988814]I'll be there in a few weeks and fancy trying Alina![/QUOTE]Note: she's usually working in day shift, leaving sometimes on time at 8 pm.
Been to Artemis a few times already this year, and I have to say, the place is almost back to its old groove from before Corona. Of course it will never be exactly the same anymore like in 2014 or 15, because some of the girls are still there from that time, and have grown older. But now the dominance of siliconised, tattooed porn starlets is not absolute anymore. There are some really fine, beautiful, natural, some even stunning young ladies. And service can be really nice, if you don't expect DFK which just doesn't fit the institution (this is a place to efficiently provide male orgasms after all in the first place). 70 + 20 for OWO is still a very decent rate to start with, especially compared to Vienna. And from what I observed business is going well. There is really nothing like being part of such an evening when it slowly gains pace, and soon you have to queue for rooms, which is always a nice time to flirt a little.
[QUOTE=TeFab456;2995646]Been to Artemis a few times already this year, and I have to say, the place is almost back to its old groove from before Corona. Of course it will never be exactly the same anymore like in 2014 or 15, because some of the girls are still there from that time, and have grown older. But now the dominance of siliconised, tattooed porn starlets is not absolute anymore. There are some really fine, beautiful, natural, some even stunning young ladies. And service can be really nice, if you don't expect DFK which just doesn't fit the institution (this is a place to efficiently provide male orgasms after all in the first place). 70 + 20 for OWO is still a very decent rate to start with, especially compared to Vienna. And from what I observed business is going well. There is really nothing like being part of such an evening when it slowly gains pace, and soon you have to queue for rooms, which is always a nice time to flirt a little.[/QUOTE]70/90 if really 30 mn is not bad rate with a real beauty, but no FK is a big miss for quality. What about DATY? Standard or other miss?
[QUOTE=TeFab456;2995646]Been to Artemis a few times already this year, and I have to say, the place is almost back to its old groove from before Corona. Of course it will never be exactly the same anymore like in 2014 or 15, because some of the girls are still there from that time, and have grown older. But now the dominance of siliconised, tattooed porn starlets is not absolute anymore. There are some really fine, beautiful, natural, some even stunning young ladies. And service can be really nice, if you don't expect DFK which just doesn't fit the institution (this is a place to efficiently provide male orgasms after all in the first place). 70 + 20 for OWO is still a very decent rate to start with, especially compared to Vienna. And from what I observed business is going well. There is really nothing like being part of such an evening when it slowly gains pace, and soon you have to queue for rooms, which is always a nice time to flirt a little.[/QUOTE]Thanks for a very welcome update. I'm not from Germany and have avoided FKK land for the past year or so whilst pursuing our sport in other parts of the World. But Artemis was my first, and my favourite FKK. Sure it doesn't have the grounds of Oase, World or even Sharks, but I love the small gym for a workout between sessions, have always enjoyed the indoor pool as well as the outdoor one. Though they really should upgrade the outdoors to create a better vibe. Even placing plants around the upper and lower levels. The food has never been great but I love the club being split on the two floors before heading up that spiral staircase. Great news that the LU has improved. Had I read this before flying into NRW and now being in FRA I would have gone to Berlin first. Its far more appealing as a City for non-mongering activity than FRA or NRW. I will add Artemis back on the "go to " list.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2995892]70/90 if really 30 mn is not bad rate with a real beauty, but no FK is a big miss for quality. What about DATY? Standard or other miss?[/QUOTE]DATY I never try at FKK.
[QUOTE=TeFab456;2995965]DATY I never try at FKK.[/QUOTE]Easiest way to make cum girls and then, I love their reaction, behavior, quite interesting.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2995892]What about DATY? Standard or other miss?[/QUOTE]No standard. Some girls allow, some not.
Alina.
I had specifically gotten to Artemis early enough to see Alina having been forewarned about her schedule by Pharisaer (much thanks). Sadly she told me when I saw her walking through the club she was booked for a 90 minute session and that was her last.
Winston had recommended a South American MILF in his post and I struck out finding anyone looking like her and after my third tour round the floor even the girls were yelling out: " Are you sure you are in the right place. This is a sex club? ".
I decided to take the next girl who I saw and found a rather attractive Ro with very typical features (slender / dark hair / store bought breasts). She assured me she was best at oral. 90? 4 30 Very good OWO but since it was my 4th night in a row of mighty oral aerobics as part of my wellness routine it would have taken some major skills to get 5 stars. If she told me her name I'd say something with a D. Maybe Dahlia or Davora. I asked her a second time in the room but she put my penis in her mouth as she was saying it and now it's all Dahamamam. Finished in mish with no special fireworks. But she gave me a light massage for a few minutes after and tried to get me to expend for another 30 by focusing her efforts between my legs and on my ass.
I wanted to stay but had promised to meet a civilian for a drink at the hotel post her Berlin theatre show. So I needed to save a tiny bit of energy Fine night but easily interchangeable with so many FKK visits across the country.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;2996666]No standard. Some girls allow, some not.[/QUOTE]So, You have to ask for FK, DATY? Feeling like a beggar. At Sharks, when bad casting, I had to choose a very beautiful Romanian, but behaving like what I call a little Romanian in club. Rare beauty, full natural with 0 tattoo and piercing, in bed, she really did let go for DATY til her very real orgasmus. Interesting, more than her limited vagina, even taller than 1,70, but I m too big now for Romanians new generation, so I target Germans, Italians or ex USSR. Funny how some of these WGs don t refuse to get pleasure. Some with chicken skin, hardening nipples or clit, some almost squirting.
ARTEMiS Berlin.
I visited ARTEMiS on a Saturday afternoon, many girls, many men, but not all men are active, they just sit around if they have done their deed, and they're just enjoying sitting and watching the scene.
I went with Maggae from Hamburg, short black hair, beautiful tattoos, one shows "81", no jutting tits.
Once in the room, she told me that ARTEMiS has more rules than others, and she was not too playful. She also said she does not like to be asked private questions about herself. My best part was not getting too hard after these restrictions. 70 Euro was agreed for 1/2 hour. But for 30 Euro more, she would remove the condom for the blow.
Her blow was good, but too short. She spoke dirty to me and looked at me beautifully, all the time, deeply into my eyes.
She wanted to get f*cked hard, but still, my best part was not getting too hard; I did not come.
I also take all kind of shit for my heart: Atorvastin / Ezetimibe / Ramipril / Clopidogrel and maybe this is disturbing my erection?
But such a cute girl, I told her I envy her boyfriend.
A cute, intelligent girl, but I was not so much at ease with her. On the way out, she remarked, "You are crazy!" I replied to her, "Same to you. " Later, I approached her at the bar, but she was not interested in talking further with me. That's it!!
/ / /
Later I talked with petite Cleopatra from Bulgaria, small tits, small body, my taste.
But I finally went with a tall and slim blonde Victoria from Moscow. Can I call her Fucktoria?
She was easy-going, she liked me dancing to the techno sound, and she had a model face. She was a perfect beauty for me.
Session was 90 Euro, Blowjob was great with her and she said for 50 Euro more I can come in her mouth. She made me come, she knew how to do it, and I was happy. It has been a long time since something like this happened to me, actually a year ago in Nairobi. In between she was riding me good with her small pussy.
I don't come easily, but she managed well, I am not young any more! I love the way she looked at me all the time in my face and eyes while blowing me.
Both girls were great, but only the 2nd could make me come. So I realised again how important is a girls attitude to make me cum. Actually, I have always had a good experience with Russian girls, always.
I told her she could be a model, but she opposed the idea that her size is 169 cm and that she is missing 1 cm, which is too short to qualify as a model.
She travelled a lot, even to Peru and Australia. I told her if she wants my phone number, once she comes to my area, but she said the club restricts her from accepting phone numbers. So it would be a good idea to prepare a small piece of paper that can be slipped between the bills when payment is done later. In case there is a need for this.
I would like to go back to this place, but unfortunately, I live far away from Berlin.
[QUOTE=JohnAuro;2997250]ARTEMiS Berlin.
I visited ARTEMiS on a Saturday afternoon, many girls, many men, but not all men are active, they just sit around if they have done their deed, and they're just enjoying sitting and watching the scene.
I went with Maggae from Hamburg, short black hair, beautiful tattoos, one shows "81", no jutting tits.
Once in the room, she told me that ARTEMiS has more rules than others, and she was not too playful. She also said she does not like to be asked private questions about herself. My best part was not getting too hard after these restrictions. 70 Euro was agreed for 1/2 hour. But for 30 Euro more, she would remove the condom for the blow.
Her blow was good, but too short. She spoke dirty to me and looked at me beautifully, all the time, deeply into my eyes.
She wanted to get f*cked hard, but still, my best part was not getting too hard; I did not come.
I also take all kind of shit for my heart: Atorvastin / Ezetimibe / Ramipril / Clopidogrel and maybe this is disturbing my erection?
But such a cute girl, I told her I envy her boyfriend.
A cute, intelligent girl, but I was not so much at ease with her. On the way out, she remarked, "You are crazy!" I replied to her, "Same to you. " Later, I approached her at the bar, but she was not interested in talking further with me. That's it!!.[/QUOTE]Yes, 1,69 is too short for modeling. Supermodels have to be more than 1,77 bare feet.
First time at Artemis last Friday afternoon from 14 h00 to 18 h00.
Location wise it is great, short walking distance from S bahn Westkreuz which is in the center of Berlin. Far easier access than Fkks around the Frankfurt area.
Lady at the reception is friendly, smiling and explains everything slowly. The lockers and showers are compact but definitely cleaner than Fkks in Frankfurt.
Entered the smoking lounge where the girls are at 14 h00 and there was less than 10 girls with maybe only 2 that were doable and the rest terrible overweight girls with horrible tattoos here and there. Have never seen such a bad line up at Frankfurt Fkks before, the girls were really not girls anymore and seriously badly overweight. Wouldn't even do them for free.
Left the lounge quickly as it also had that terrible smoke smell and went downstairs to the Kino. Nice to see one as I think there is no more Kino in Frankfurt Fkks. Have had some great experience getting sucked while watching porn and find it disappointing that there is no more such place in the Frankfurt Fkks. But unfortunately there was nothing going on there so went to take a nap at the welness area.
Went back for a tour every hour and so and number of girls rose slowly but not the level.
At 18 h00 when I decided to leave, there was only one girl that attracted me as she was the only young one with natural look and no tattoo. All the rest really looked old and vulgar. What a letdown. Left balls full and highly frustrated.
I know that afternoons can be limited in terms of line up but this seriously was just plain terrible. And the fact girls mostly stay in the smoking lounge is also a big letdown for me, the atmosphere in that lounge is just horrible and it s difficutl to stay in that lounge while breathing all that second hand smoke.
Guys do you know if it is possible to go to the cinema with the girl having a blowjob there and then continue for the rest in a room?
[QUOTE=Johnnnnn62;3003639]Guys do you know if it is possible to go to the cinema with the girl having a blowjob there and then continue for the rest in a room?[/QUOTE]Yes, you can. I've done it a few times in the downstairs cinema and the main room one and then upstairs to finish. Just tell the girl in advance.
I am planning my first visit to Artemis! Can more expert mongers advise me:
1. If I speak German to the girls, do I use the informal (duzen) or formal (seizen)?
2. How likely am I to find an Asian girl (I know, I know, but the heart wants what it wants.)?
3. Any other rules of etiquette to follow?
[QUOTE=TKOman;3004482]I am planning my first visit to Artemis! Can more expert mongers advise me:
1. If I speak German to the girls, do I use the informal (duzen) or formal (seizen)?
2. How likely am I to find an Asian girl (I know, I know, but the heart wants what it wants.)?
3. Any other rules of etiquette to follow?[/QUOTE]No need to use any formal language with the girls.
Almost no chance to meet an asian girl there, mostly big Romanian tatooed silicone girls and some odd big black girls.
Only rule is to make sure to agree about price and service before going to the room and to avoid any issues, don't let them blow your dick unless you are OK to go with them. Best is not to be too touchy unless you are thinking of giving it the go to the girl.
What is the real reputation of Chinese / Asian tourists at FKK? How do the women treat them differently? Are the Chinese / Asian men generally respectful to the ladies and visitors?
In Western Europe, many places, bad (or culturally ill-informed) behavior by Chinese tourists have soured local interactions with Asians. Versus Asians in Eastern European are often treated really kindly, there's a positive relationship between long established Vietnamese communities in Eastern Europe (Poland, Czech, even Ukraine), where there are also fewer Asian tourists.
[QUOTE=Pdx99;3004911]What is the real reputation of Chinese / Asian tourists at FKK? How do the women treat them differently? Are the Chinese / Asian men generally respectful to the ladies and visitors?
In Western Europe, many places, bad (or culturally ill-informed) behavior by Chinese tourists have soured local interactions with Asians. Versus Asians in Eastern European are often treated really kindly, there's a positive relationship between long established Vietnamese communities in Eastern Europe (Poland, Czech, even Ukraine), where there are also fewer Asian tourists.[/QUOTE]I don't know if Chinese / Asian men treat the girls respectfully but they are the prime target of most girls in FKK.
Most girls like to deal with Asians because they seldom discuss the price, supposedly have smaller dicks and suposedly come faster than other men. So they are the perfect customers for the girls.
[QUOTE=VonSauer;3005005]I don't know if Chinese / Asian men treat the girls respectfully but they are the prime target of most girls in FKK.
Most girls like to deal with Asians because they seldom discuss the price, supposedly have smaller dicks and suposedly come faster than other men. So they are the perfect customers for the girls.[/QUOTE]It's about closing the sale. I've seen it often enough: girls descend on SE Asian clients and they quickly say yes. Whether it's a lack of willingness to negotiate or an eagerness to enjoy. I've seen it in clubsq from NYC to across Africa. First girl to the party gets the cash! They aren't the only clients who say yes quickly. It's not like club girls don't jump on guys when they first hit the club but it seems more intense with some "types"!
[QUOTE=Tintin1;3005013]It's about closing the sale. I've seen it often enough: girls descend on SE Asian clients and they quickly say yes. Whether it's a lack of willingness to negotiate or an eagerness to enjoy. I've seen it in clubsq from NYC to across Africa. First girl to the party gets the cash! They aren't the only clients who say yes quickly. It's not like club girls don't jump on guys when they first hit the club but it seems more intense with some "types"![/QUOTE]I saw a girl at Palace "process" an Asian client in literally 5 minutes! I timed them from the moment they left for the room until they appeared back in the main area. Five minutes! I have talked to some unscrupulous tutes who admitted to me that they prey on Asian clients to earn easy money (that was at Samya). An Asian guy walked in and immediately one of the blonde Romanians I was chatting with was right on him, and immediately they were off to the room (she looked back at me grinning and winked). The Cane don't play that!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3005021]I saw a girl at Palace "process" an Asian client in literally 5 minutes! I timed them from the moment they left for the room until they appeared back in the main area. Five minutes! I have talked to some unscrupulous tutes who admitted to me that they prey on Asian clients to earn easy money (that was at Samya). An Asian guy walked in and immediately one of the blonde Romanians I was chatting with was right on him, and immediately they were off to the room (she looked back at me grinning and winked). The Cane don't play that![/QUOTE]At Sharks, jungle for rates, I know a Chinese, living working in Germany, who negotiate more than me to get 100€ rooms, when I prefer to play with my talent than grocery negotiation.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3005021]I saw a girl at Palace "process" an Asian client in literally 5 minutes! I timed them from the moment they left for the room until they appeared back in the main area. Five minutes! I have talked to some unscrupulous tutes who admitted to me that they prey on Asian clients to earn easy money (that was at Samya). An Asian guy walked in and immediately one of the blonde Romanians I was chatting with was right on him, and immediately they were off to the room (she looked back at me grinning and winked). The Cane don't play that![/QUOTE]I suppose it balances out. There are days when no matter how hard she sweats, it take the entire time to get the guy to explode. But yeah. 5 minutes from opening line to closing the sale. And if she's lucky. Another 5 in the back room and she's back on the floor. Throwing the hook back into pond for the next fish.
This seems to be especially true in the larger clubs where the pond is well stocked- regardless of the clients race! One advantage of the smaller clubs is that it's usually less rushed.
BTW. I'm still dreaming of the tall brunette who spent 2 hours going down on the old guy in the common area of Globe. Stopping only to go to the bar to get him another cocktail (no pun intended)! I mean I'm also impressed with his stamina. Although I don't know if taking two hours to pop is somehow envious? I'm planning on stopping there this fall.
I hope to be at the Artemis on Friday. Anyone know if Alina or Nicole are working?
[QUOTE=Winston11;3008579]I hope to be at the Artemis on Friday. Anyone know if Alina or Nicole are working?[/QUOTE]To answer my own question, yes. Both were present.
I got to the Artemis around 13.00 on Friday, it was a beautiful day in Berlin so I was looking forward to spending some time at the outdoor area for the first time.
After getting changed and heading into the bar and then downstairs I was surprised at how empty it was. Maybe 5 women in the bar and the same number of men. But when I went outside I realized where the action was. There were 10 or more women in and around the pool, some swimming and some sunbathing. There were some absolute stunners there and it was an amazing site to see all these naked women just hanging out.
I chilled for a bit. Then after a little chat headed upstairs with Nicki.
[B]Nicki[/B]
She was short and curvy, big tits and a massive ass. Maybe a BBL? - but I really liked her vibe. And we had a real nice time together. No frills just some good sex. Kissing included. Her curves really did it for me. Great start to the day and a probable repeat.
Soon after I spotted one of my targets for the day. Alina was at the pool wearing a bucket hat that made her really noticeable. And after a quick catch-up we headed upstairs.
[B]Alina[/B]
This was an hour long session and a lot of fun. She brought her strap-on and some other dildos and she really knew how to use them. My favourite current girl and a definite repeat.
It was late afternoon now and I was looking for someone new for my next trip upstairs. I noticed a stunning, dark-haired girl walking the bar who looked just my type so stopped her to talk.
[B]Candy (Kandy?) from Hamburg[/B]
Candy is a short girl. Maybe 5 foot. With incredible pierced tits and a really pretty face. Tattoos include 'yes Daddy' on her stomach and 'good boy' on the back of her legs. She has those long fake nails some girls wear and was wearing a lot of body jewelry, like a chain around her middle.
Started with BBBJ and her tongue piercing was put to good use. I had a great time and should have stayed longer than 30 minutes. 100% repeat.
After a swim and some dinner I got chatting with Laura from Colombia, a short and curvy MILF-type who was nice to talk to so we headed upstairs.
[B]Laura from Colombia[/B]
I enjoyed my time with her, lots of kissing and her ass looked great but the constant up-selling got really annoying. And after 20 minutes I decided not to finish. Not a great time but I've had worse and not finishing meant I was hungry for one last girl.
And lastly I spotted my other target for the day - [B]Nicole from Czechia[/B]. Her blonde hair and massive tits really do it for me. We headed upstairs and had a great time. No kissing but otherwise a great end to the day. Nicole is a lot of fun and I'd probably repeat.
This was the first time I saw the outdoor area in the Summer and when it's in full bloom and full of nakedness it's a wonderful site.
5 sessions, 1 with one of my favourite girls there and 1 new addition to the repeat-list. A great day all round.
Thanks for reading.
[QUOTE=VonSauer;3004587]No need to use any formal language with the girls.
Almost no chance to meet an asian girl there, mostly big Romanian tatooed silicone girls and some odd big black girls.
Only rule is to make sure to agree about price and service before going to the room and to avoid any issues, don't let them blow your dick unless you are OK to go with them. Best is not to be too touchy unless you are thinking of giving it the go to the girl.[/QUOTE]Many thanks! Also:
1. Is it Ok / normal to chat with the other guys in the FKK?
2. What's the tipping expectation (above and beyond the agreed-upon price)?
3. Can I assume condom use is expected?
[QUOTE=TKOman;3009443]Many thanks! Also:
1. Is it Ok / normal to chat with the other guys in the FKK?
2. What's the tipping expectation (above and beyond the agreed-upon price)?
3. Can I assume condom use is expected?[/QUOTE]1. Yes it s very normal to chat with other guys, most of the time guys in FKK are very willing to share info about the girls too.
2. No need to tip above the agreed price unless the girl was a real gem. The girls who will ask for tips are usually not the best ones.
3. Yes condom is a must for FS but not for BJ.
Do the rooms have airconditioning nowadays? I haven't been to Artemis in many years now but will probably go to Berlin later this summer and might visit Artemis then, but if there aren't any ACs in the rooms I may skip it as I don't enjoy too much heat.
[QUOTE=Kvaser;3009692]Do the rooms have airconditioning nowadays? I haven't been to Artemis in many years now but will probably go to Berlin later this summer and might visit Artemis then, but if there aren't any ACs in the rooms I may skip it as I don't enjoy too much heat.[/QUOTE]Ceiling fans and open windows only, no AC.
[QUOTE=Kvaser;3009692]Do the rooms have airconditioning nowadays? I haven't been to Artemis in many years now but will probably go to Berlin later this summer and might visit Artemis then, but if there aren't any ACs in the rooms I may skip it as I don't enjoy too much heat.[/QUOTE]No aircondition at all, but in the main bar (if turned on by the staff).
I have this afternoon been to Artemis. Saw Lina for 30 minutes.
She is pretty, have a nice smile and large natural breasts.
But even better she has some very effective hands and knows how to use them.
Add a very friendly and very serviceminded attitude, and you have close to the perfect experience.
Today was definitely the best session I have ever had at Artemis.
As simple as that..
[QUOTE=Winston11;3009239]To answer my own question, yes. Both were present.
I got to the Artemis around 13.00 on Friday, it was a beautiful day in Berlin so I was looking forward to spending some time at the outdoor area for the first time.
After getting changed and heading into the bar and then downstairs I was surprised at how empty it was. Maybe 5 women in the bar and the same number of men. But when I went outside I realized where the action was. There were 10 or more women in and around the pool, some swimming and some sunbathing. There were some absolute stunners there and it was an amazing site to see all these naked women just hanging out.
I chilled for a bit. Then after a little chat headed upstairs with Nicki.
[B]Nicki[/B]
She was short and curvy, big tits and a massive ass. Maybe a BBL? - but I really liked her vibe. And we had a real nice time together. No frills just some good sex. Kissing included. Her curves really did it for me. Great start to the day and a probable repeat.
Soon after I spotted one of my targets for the day. Alina was at the pool wearing a bucket hat that made her really noticeable. And after a quick catch-up we headed upstairs.
[B]Alina[/B]
This was an hour long session and a lot of fun. She brought her strap-on and some other dildos and she really knew how to use them. My favourite current girl and a definite repeat.
It was late afternoon now and I was looking for someone new for my next trip upstairs. I noticed a stunning, dark-haired girl walking the bar who looked just my type so stopped her to talk.
[B]Candy (Kandy?) from Hamburg[/B]
Candy is a short girl. Maybe 5 foot. With incredible pierced tits and a really pretty face. Tattoos include 'yes Daddy' on her stomach and 'good boy' on the back of her legs. She has those long fake nails some girls wear and was wearing a lot of body jewelry, like a chain around her middle.
Started with BBBJ and her tongue piercing was put to good use. I had a great time and should have stayed longer than 30 minutes. 100% repeat.
After a swim and some dinner I got chatting with Laura from Colombia, a short and curvy MILF-type who was nice to talk to so we headed upstairs.
[B]Laura from Colombia[/B]
I enjoyed my time with her, lots of kissing and her ass looked great but the constant up-selling got really annoying. And after 20 minutes I decided not to finish. Not a great time but I've had worse and not finishing meant I was hungry for one last girl.
And lastly I spotted my other target for the day - [B]Nicole from Czechia[/B]. Her blonde hair and massive tits really do it for me. We headed upstairs and had a great time. No kissing but otherwise a great end to the day. Nicole is a lot of fun and I'd probably repeat.
This was the first time I saw the outdoor area in the Summer and when it's in full bloom and full of nakedness it's a wonderful site.
5 sessions, 1 with one of my favourite girls there and 1 new addition to the repeat-list. A great day all round.
Thanks for reading.[/QUOTE]Firstly thanks for an excellent current report. Made me want to head back to my favourite FKK club to which I've not returned for 2 years! What are current rates for 30 minutes / hour / 2 hours? Negotiable or not? BBBJ still an "extra" at 20 euros? Thanks.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;3010324]Firstly thanks for an excellent current report. Made me want to head back to my favourite FKK club to which I've not returned for 2 years! What are current rates for 30 minutes / hour / 2 hours? Negotiable or not? BBBJ still an "extra" at 20 euros? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Rates are €70 for 30 minutes, €140 for 60 etc and BBBJ is an extra 20 which most girls offered but some wanted an hour long booking before offering BBBJ. I think 3 out of my 5 offered kissing but there's no charge for that. Extras when offered are €50 (COB, prostate stim etc) and anal is €100.
I've never tried negotiating and even the most aggressive girls have never offered a cheaper price when trying to get me upstairs.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;3010324]What are current rates for 30 minutes / hour / 2 hours?[/QUOTE]70/140/280. Some girls try to charge more, ask in advance.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;3010324]Negotiable or not?[/QUOTE]Never say never. It's worth a try, if you intend to stay longer at zimmer. Which means: really longer.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;3010324]BBBJ still an "extra" at 20 euros?[/QUOTE]Yes.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;3010374]70/140/280. Some girls try to charge more, ask in advance.
Never say never. It's worth a try, if you intend to stay longer at zimmer. Which means: really longer.
Yes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Winston11;3009239]To answer my own question, yes. Both were present.
I got to the Artemis around 13.00 on Friday, it was a beautiful day in Berlin so I was looking forward to spending some time at the outdoor area for the first time.
After getting changed and heading into the bar and then downstairs I was surprised at how empty it was. Maybe 5 women in the bar and the same number of men. But when I went outside I realized where the action was. There were 10 or more women in and around the pool, some swimming and some sunbathing. There were some absolute stunners there and it was an amazing site to see all these naked women just hanging out.
I chilled for a bit. Then after a little chat headed upstairs with Nicki.
[B]Nicki[/B]
She was short and curvy, big tits and a massive ass. Maybe a BBL? - but I really liked her vibe. And we had a real nice time together. No frills just some good sex. Kissing included. Her curves really did it for me. Great start to the day and a probable repeat.
Soon after I spotted one of my targets for the day. Alina was at the pool wearing a bucket hat that made her really noticeable. And after a quick catch-up we headed upstairs.
[B]Alina[/B]
This was an hour long session and a lot of fun. She brought her strap-on and some other dildos and she really knew how to use them. My favourite current girl and a definite repeat.
It was late afternoon now and I was looking for someone new for my next trip upstairs. I noticed a stunning, dark-haired girl walking the bar who looked just my type so stopped her to talk.
[B]Candy (Kandy?) from Hamburg[/B]
Candy is a short girl. Maybe 5 foot. With incredible pierced tits and a really pretty face. Tattoos include 'yes Daddy' on her stomach and 'good boy' on the back of her legs. She has those long fake nails some girls wear and was wearing a lot of body jewelry, like a chain around her middle.
Started with BBBJ and her tongue piercing was put to good use. I had a great time and should have stayed longer than 30 minutes. 100% repeat.
After a swim and some dinner I got chatting with Laura from Colombia, a short and curvy MILF-type who was nice to talk to so we headed upstairs.
[B]Laura from Colombia[/B]
I enjoyed my time with her, lots of kissing and her ass looked great but the constant up-selling got really annoying. And after 20 minutes I decided not to finish. Not a great time but I've had worse and not finishing meant I was hungry for one last girl.
And lastly I spotted my other target for the day - [B]Nicole from Czechia[/B]. Her blonde hair and massive tits really do it for me. We headed upstairs and had a great time. No kissing but otherwise a great end to the day. Nicole is a lot of fun and I'd probably repeat.
This was the first time I saw the outdoor area in the Summer and when it's in full bloom and full of nakedness it's a wonderful site.
5 sessions, 1 with one of my favourite girls there and 1 new addition to the repeat-list. A great day all round.
Thanks for reading.[/QUOTE]There late this summer, last visit I skipped the club for Maria's Massage due to several negative reports but this makes me put it back on my schedule. Thank you so much. Both of you.
Will I find a good selection of girls if I visit Artemis on a weekday after midnight?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Johnnnnn62;3012086]Will I find a good selection of girls if I visit Artemis on a weekday after midnight?
Thanks![/QUOTE]IMHO probably not. But YMMV.
[QUOTE=Pharisaer;3010374]70/140/280. Some girls try to charge more, ask in advance.
Never say never. It's worth a try, if you intend to stay longer at zimmer. Which means: really longer.
Yes.[/QUOTE]Thanks to you and Winston for the answers. Much appreciated. 140 for an hour is not at all unreasonable compared to say FKK Sharks or Oase where its still possible to find girls doing 150/ hour (which includes the BBBJ) but most recently the better looking girls are seeking 200/ hour. So 140+20 BBBJ is not bad at all.
[QUOTE=Winston11;3009239]
[B]Candy (Kandy?) from Hamburg[/B]
Candy is a short girl. Maybe 5 foot. With incredible pierced tits and a really pretty face. Tattoos include 'yes Daddy' on her stomach and 'good boy' on the back of her legs. She has those long fake nails some girls wear and was wearing a lot of body jewelry, like a chain around her middle.
Started with BBBJ and her tongue piercing was put to good use. I had a great time and should have stayed longer than 30 minutes. 100% repeat.
[/QUOTE]I tried her on a recent trip. She is not at all my type visually since I usually like all natural girls. But since all-natural is nearly impossible to find in Artemis, I decided to experiment with the most cartoonishly overdone porno look girl in the room and that was Kandi. Her costumes, tattoos, hair, eye laches, nails, even her walk. Everything about her celebrates everything about *horedom. From that perspective she is quite marvelous. Kandi is to Artemis what Micky Mouse is to Disneyland.
So I took the plunge and broke my norm. Turns out her personality and service are as inauthentic as her looks. Mechanical, cold, prescribed. I did my thirty minutes of BBJ and two standard positions. I then decided best to save my load for the next girl and chalk this one up as a bucket list thing which I do not need to repeat. Had she been as wild in the room as her looks would suggest, I may have stayed longer. She is all show and no bite.
If the porno girl look is what you are into then she is probably the best I've ever seen in that category. But I would not expect much in terms of service beyond a 30 min opti-fuck.
Behind all the make up and silicone, I suspect that once upon a time she was a naturally very pretty woman before the hooker makeover.
Hello.
I'm going to be traveling to Berlin for work in September and want to enjoy some of the pleasures or the city while there. Aside from general escorts, strip clubs, and saunas, I'm looking for uniquely German (European) activities since it's all pretty limited in the US.
I'm 43, in decent shape, and straight but open to some fun kinks. I'm not likely going to search out women at bars / clubs as I'd probably stick out there, LOL.
One place I want to visit is FKK Artemis. I've read the posts on this board and have gotten some great info there. I have a few questions I hadn't seen answered in other thread so I thought I'd post here.
- At the club, what do most of the men wear under their robes?
- Do most men go to the sauna, pool, etc in a bathing suit?
- what's the boner etiquette when in the main areas? LOL.
- is there much conversation going on between patrons away from the ladies?
- do most of the ladies just do pay after the fun or before?
- how much hands on is acceptable / appropriate for the main areas?
I'm sure I have questions but this is what I have for now or if you have anything you think I must know to get the most from a trip there, I'm all ears. If you have any specific experiences, places, events, I'm open to it all. Never been to Europe and want to make the most of this. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Wedelapp;3017890]Hello.
I'm going to be traveling to Berlin for work in September and want to enjoy some of the pleasures or the city while there. Aside from general escorts, strip clubs, and saunas, I'm looking for uniquely German (European) activities since it's all pretty limited in the US.
I'm 43, in decent shape, and straight but open to some fun kinks. I'm not likely going to search out women at bars / clubs as I'd probably stick out there, LOL.
One place I want to visit is FKK Artemis. I've read the posts on this board and have gotten some great info there. I have a few questions I hadn't seen answered in other thread so I thought I'd post here.
- At the club, what do most of the men wear under their robes?
- Do most men go to the sauna, pool, etc in a bathing suit?
- what's the boner etiquette when in the main areas? LOL.
- is there much conversation going on between patrons away from the ladies?
- do most of the ladies just do pay after the fun or before?
- how much hands on is acceptable / appropriate for the main areas?
I'm sure I have questions but this is what I have for now or if you have anything you think I must know to get the most from a trip there, I'm all ears. If you have any specific experiences, places, events, I'm open to it all. Never been to Europe and want to make the most of this. Thanks![/QUOTE]- At the club, what do most of the men wear under their robes? Nothing.
- Do most men go to the sauna, pool, etc in a bathing suit? Naked in the sauna, pool etc. Hang up your robe and get it.
- what's the boner etiquette when in the main areas? LOL. Not sure what you mean here. Just adjust your robe and don't let it stick out! And then find someone you want to take upstairs.
- is there much conversation going on between patrons away from the ladies? Yes. If I see someone come down the stairs with a woman I like the look of I'll try talk to them later in the bar to get a review of the session. And if she's worth going with. Most people are friendly and happy to chat.
- do most of the ladies just do pay after the fun or before? Yes. You pay after the session. Your wrist band opens a small safe-deposit box near the front desk where you keep your money. You come down stairs, go there and pay.
- how much hands on is acceptable / appropriate for the main areas? If you've agreed to go with a girl then anything goes. I've never seen anyone fucking in the bar (not counting the sex-shows on the stage) but I'm sure it happens. There's a cinema in the main bar where a lot of action happens and areas that can be curtained off.
[QUOTE=Wedelapp;3017890]Hello.
I'm going to be traveling to Berlin for work in September and want to enjoy some of the pleasures or the city while there. Aside from general escorts, strip clubs, and saunas, I'm looking for uniquely German (European) activities since it's all pretty limited in the US.
I'm 43, in decent shape, and straight but open to some fun kinks. I'm not likely going to search out women at bars / clubs as I'd probably stick out there, LOL.
One place I want to visit is FKK Artemis. I've read the posts on this board and have gotten some great info there. I have a few questions I hadn't seen answered in other thread so I thought I'd post here.
- At the club, what do most of the men wear under their robes?
- Do most men go to the sauna, pool, etc in a bathing suit?
- what's the boner etiquette when in the main areas? LOL.
- is there much conversation going on between patrons away from the ladies?
- do most of the ladies just do pay after the fun or before?
- how much hands on is acceptable / appropriate for the main areas?
I'm sure I have questions but this is what I have for now or if you have anything you think I must know to get the most from a trip there, I'm all ears. If you have any specific experiences, places, events, I'm open to it all. Never been to Europe and want to make the most of this. Thanks![/QUOTE]For hygiene, naked under robe or towel, no socks, no casquet, no sunglasses like many ridiculous, even under shower with panties and socks. And You will see some very fat like in USA and some uglies. What is funny in FKKs is those who walk around full naked are always fat or ugly, I never saw an athlet. Don t say You are newbie, don t say You are American meaning tip and we pay at the end of room. Speak with girls about what You like before going and don t go with girls who try to rush You to go.
Berlin is a great city to visit, but not best for FKKs.
[QUOTE=Wedelapp;3017890]- At the club, what do most of the men wear under their robes?[/QUOTE]Nothing. Stay nude (20% will have dirty underwear. Yuck!). FKK means nude, so throw away your American prudishness and shyness. Relax. Feel free. Respect the idea of nudity.
[QUOTE=Wedelapp;3017890]- Do most men go to the sauna, pool, etc in a bathing suit?[/QUOTE]No! Bathing suite / underwear is considered dirty and is not be weared when swimming in the pool or in the sauna. In the pool: Be naked. In the sauna: Always sit on a clean towel.
[QUOTE=Wedelapp;3017890]- what's the boner etiquette when in the main areas? LOL.[/QUOTE]Nobody cares (as long as you are not wanking). Relax.
[QUOTE=Wedelapp;3017890]- is there much conversation going on between patrons away from the ladies?[/QUOTE]It's all up to you. Many just relax and mind their own business. There are plenty of gents who like to chat.
[QUOTE=Wedelapp;3017890]- do most of the ladies just do pay after the fun or before?[/QUOTE]After. Always after. At the money lockers. The money lockers are safe. Do not put your valuables anywhere else but in the money lockers.
[QUOTE=Wedelapp;3017890]- how much hands on is acceptable / appropriate for the main areas?[/QUOTE]Not much. If not interested in taking the girl to a room, then do not touch. If a girl propostion herself on your lap, then by all means light touching is encouraged and appreciated. Just don't overdo it if you have no intention of taking her to the room.
Have fun. And report back. Always interesting to read a firsttimer's reaction to the FKK concept. I wish that was me!!
[QUOTE=Shark16;3017984]
Nobody cares. Relax. Have fun.
And report back. Always interesting to read a firsttimer's reaction to the FKK concept. I wish that was me!![/QUOTE]Everyone is giving you good advise, the two points above most important. RELAX and report.
Offer one additional suggestion. If it becomes all too overwhelming, and you can't focus, go into the food area. Generally girls don't proposition you in the canteen.
Secondly you "may" see guys standing around the spiral stairs watching the ladies go up and down. It's a way to also get out of the high traffic and get a look a different look at the ladies. There's also a nice report back a year (on 3 of the Bordellos around the western part of Berlin.
Hoping to return to my first and still favourite FKK Artemis next weekend.
Can I ask regulars what the current line up is like please. Hoping to be there Thursday and maybe Sunday nights (have commitments already Friday and Saturday).
I know LUs change. Just wondered what the current level is like please.
Thanks.
I'm hoping to make it to Berlin next month. This would be my first time in Ber and I'm hoping I can stop by Artemis while there. Been to other FKK (sharks, sunshine, Hawaii, etc).
What can I expect on a Tuesday evening / early night? If I were to get there around 8?
Anyone know if Alina or Candy / Kandy are working at the moment? I hope to get there on Friday?
Thanks for the advice! I'm extremely nervous, but very excited to experience it.
[QUOTE=Shark16;3017984]Nothing. Stay nude (20% will have dirty underwear. Yuck!). FKK means nude, so throw away your American prudishness and shyness. Relax. Feel free. Respect the idea of nudity.
No! Bathing suite / underwear is considered dirty and is not be weared when swimming in the pool or in the sauna. In the pool: Be naked. In the sauna: Always sit on a clean towel.
Nobody cares (as long as you are not wanking). Relax.
It's all up to you. Many just relax and mind their own business. There are plenty of gents who like to chat.
After. Always after. At the money lockers. The money lockers are safe. Do not put your valuables anywhere else but in the money lockers.
Not much. If not interested in taking the girl to a room, then do not touch. If a girl propostion herself on your lap, then by all means light touching is encouraged and appreciated. Just don't overdo it if you have no intention of taking her to the room.
Have fun. And report back. Always interesting to read a firsttimer's reaction to the FKK concept. I wish that was me!![/QUOTE]
Thanks for the tips!
[QUOTE=Shark16;3017984]Nothing. Stay nude (20% will have dirty underwear. Yuck!). FKK means nude, so throw away your American prudishness and shyness. Relax. Feel free. Respect the idea of nudity.
No! Bathing suite / underwear is considered dirty and is not be weared when swimming in the pool or in the sauna. In the pool: Be naked. In the sauna: Always sit on a clean towel.
Nobody cares (as long as you are not wanking). Relax.
It's all up to you. Many just relax and mind their own business. There are plenty of gents who like to chat.
After. Always after. At the money lockers. The money lockers are safe. Do not put your valuables anywhere else but in the money lockers.
Not much. If not interested in taking the girl to a room, then do not touch. If a girl propostion herself on your lap, then by all means light touching is encouraged and appreciated. Just don't overdo it if you have no intention of taking her to the room.
Have fun. And report back. Always interesting to read a firsttimer's reaction to the FKK concept. I wish that was me!![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tintin1;3018034]Everyone is giving you good advise, the two points above most important. RELAX and report.
Offer one additional suggestion. If it becomes all too overwhelming, and you can't focus, go into the food area. Generally girls don't proposition you in the canteen.
Secondly you "may" see guys standing around the spiral stairs watching the ladies go up and down. It's a way to also get out of the high traffic and get a look a different look at the ladies. There's also a nice report back a year (on 3 of the Bordellos around the western part of Berlin.[/QUOTE]
Been to Artemis and other FKKs few times, based on my experience:
- At the club, what do most of the men wear under their robes?
Nothing.
- Do most men go to the sauna, pool, etc in a bathing suit?
Nope, no bathing suit.
- what's the boner etiquette when in the main areas? LOL.
Men will be focusing on the ladies, and even if someone notices, I don't think it matters! But the basic thing is. Not to show off your boner and walk around.
- is there much conversation going on between patrons away from the ladies?
Nothing much; I have seen men who came in groups talk with each other. Others just exchange a few words—never engaged in a long chat / conversation with any men.
- do most of the ladies just do pay after the fun or before?
ALWAYS. After!
- how much hands on is acceptable / appropriate for the main areas?
In the common area, I haven't see much action. But in the movie halls and other such play areas, I have seen people going all the way and finishing there itself.
[QUOTE=WedelApp;3017890]Hello.
I'm going to be traveling to Berlin for work in September and want to enjoy some of the pleasures or the city while there. Aside from general escorts, strip clubs, and saunas, I'm looking for uniquely German (European) activities since it's all pretty limited in the US.
I'm 43, in decent shape, and straight but open to some fun kinks. I'm not likely going to search out women at bars / clubs as I'd probably stick out there, LOL.
One place I want to visit is FKK Artemis. I've read the posts on this board and have gotten some great info there. I have a few questions I hadn't seen answered in other thread so I thought I'd post here.
- At the club, what do most of the men wear under their robes?
- Do most men go to the sauna, pool, etc in a bathing suit?
- what's the boner etiquette when in the main areas? LOL.
- is there much conversation going on between patrons away from the ladies?
- do most of the ladies just do pay after the fun or before?
- how much hands on is acceptable / appropriate for the main areas?
I'm sure I have questions but this is what I have for now or if you have anything you think I must know to get the most from a trip there, I'm all ears. If you have any specific experiences, places, events, I'm open to it all. Never been to Europe and want to make the most of this. Thanks![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Winston11;3018844]Anyone know if Alina or Candy / Kandy are working at the moment? I hope to get there on Friday?[/QUOTE]To answer my own question, no, neither of them were there on Friday. In fact it was a pretty quiet day in general. Talking to some of the women there they said a lot of German people take their holidays in August so that probably reduced the numbers. Since none of my favourites were there I opted for new women.
I arrived there about 13.00. The main bar was pretty empty and even with the nice weather the outdoor area was quiet with no women enjoying the sun. I saw some potential targets but after a chat with Claudia headed upstairs.
[B]Claudia - Poland [/B]Probably in her mid 30's, natural body and long dark hair. I did a search of the forum and it looks like she's been working at The A. For a long time. She had a great energy and a really fun vibe. Session started with a nice, oiley body-to-body massage. Great sex and good kissing added up to a really enjoyable time and she's an almost certain repeat.
Second session of the day was Salome.
[B]Salome - Dominican Republic.[/B] Short, curvy Latino with massive real tits and a great ass. My absolute favourite body type, short and stacked. This was a great session and she's a ton of fun. The Spanish dirty-talk is a real turn on for me. Another on the probable repeat list.
After a massage and a swim I wanted another session. The main bar was a little busier now (it was about 18.00) but not as full as I expected for a Friday.
[B]Ramona (?) - Romania. [/B]Long blonde curly hair, pretty face and cute eye make-up. She said she had only been working there for a couple of weeks and had recently arrived from another German city. I had a great time with her. A combo of prostate massage and BBBJ is always a treat. And I loved her look.
Last woman over the jumps was Clarissa.
[B]Clarissa (?) - Turkey [/B]Nice face and tits. Similar body-type to Salome. I was pretty wiped out after my day but she put in a good effort to get me off and I finished on her massive, real tits. Her attitude was a little cold when we got to the room but she could take a pounding without issue and she looked great on her knees. I don't think I'd go again but it wasn't a bad session either.
The club was a little busier as I was leaving. And there were some pole-dancers in the main bar. I'm not sure what the point of them was. They were not particularly attractive and the women walking the floor were much more interesting to watch.
Some other faces I recognised were Fana (Fanna?) and Riise.
Overall this was a great day, thanks for reading.
Thanks for the info!
[QUOTE=DeepakSa;3019451]Been to Artemis and other FKKs few times, based on my experience:
- At the club, what do most of the men wear under their robes?
Nothing.
- Do most men go to the sauna, pool, etc in a bathing suit?
Nope, no bathing suit.
- what's the boner etiquette when in the main areas? LOL.
Men will be focusing on the ladies, and even if someone notices, I don't think it matters! But the basic thing is. Not to show off your boner and walk around.
- is there much conversation going on between patrons away from the ladies?
Nothing much; I have seen men who came in groups talk with each other. Others just exchange a few wordsnever engaged in a long chat / conversation with any men..[/QUOTE]
Unlike many clubs some of the girls limit the services that they provide. I'm a big fan of eating pussy. Many of the girls don't allow eating pussy. They say that it is too intimate for them. Ask before you buy to avoid a disappointment in the room.
Hi everybody, first review here! Spent a couple of days in Berlin around the middle of last June and managed to squeeze in a visitation Artemis. Should be noted that 1) this was my first time in a FKK and 2) that I where I come from punting options are severely limited due to this being illegal. Therefore, my impression of a place like Artemis will in all likelihood be influenced by these factors.
Anyway, after a day spent enjoying Berlin (mostly sipping on good wine) my companions went to bed and I was able to run off to Artemis. I was little bit stressed that the timing of my visit (Tuesday, around midnight) would mean less options but those worries were quick to disappear once there. Plenty of posts here that go into the process of getting there and what to do before entering so I won't be detailing that.
Anyway, plenty of women and the ratio vs men quite good. A little bit of a shock for most first timers I assume once entering to see that many many girls walking along naked, and most of them (at least in my view) quite stunning. Having read quite a few reviews I wanted to ease my way in. So got a drink in hand and sat down to take it all in. Mostly succeeded in that, approached by some girls but did not partake yet. They all took it well. Once I got up however and started to walk around their approaches got more determined, multiple threesome offers, etc. Was a little surprised how far some of them went, in terms of touching, sitting on my lap and so on but nothing too problematic (at least not at that stage, more on that later).
Well, after a little while I felt it was time to get serious. Was approached by a beautiful and a little bit curvy Colombian girl, Laura. She had previously offered my a threesome with her friend, but this time she was alone and I really liked the look of her and it was nice to talk to her now that she was alone. Agreed on 30 min, owo and CIM (140 euro) and went upstairs. Was actually expecting her to cool down and enter business mode with upselling once in the room (as many have outlined in their reviews) but quite the contrary. She was really warm and friendly, gave a hell of a blow and asked me to return the favour, which I did. Of course, this could have been an act but in my mind I felt she really enjoyed it. Then on with the bag, rode me good before switching to doggy (her bouncing ass a beautiful sight) but then I could not hold longer and finished in the condom (once paying, she stuck to the original deal which included CIM and I didn't object). Then a nice cuddle and good chat about life. All in all, a great punt which I'm pretty sure went quite far beyond the 30 min agreed upon. Would definitely repeat.
Got back down, had a shower and a drink and sat down to relax and regain my strength. Approached by a lot of girls but waived them off (none gave me any trouble about that). After a little bit, went to walk around a little and found myself in the cinema. Stopped for a bit to have a look at the movie but was soon approached by two girls (one of them, Turkish girl if I remember correctly with a smoking body, had approached me earlier, but this time she (and her friend) was a little bit more adamant. They pushed (in a friendly manner) me into the cinema room and got on top of me, and well gave a sample of what threesome with them would be like. There was some light kissing and the "other" girl had my member in her mouth at one time. To be honest, I felt this was all a little bit too much at that stage, given that there was no agreement on going to a room (and I was still in the regaining strength phase of my journey at that moment), so for some godly strength I managed to calm things down and asked them to give me a little time and that I would let them know later if I wanted the whole experience. I felt this was a little bit weird but didn't want to make a big deal out of it. Although when writing this down now this sounds quite inappropriate, at the time we were in good spirits and they were both happy to let me walk off. Don't think I saw them again before I left.
Sat down after this and enjoyed the view until I saw a girl eyeing me and implying she wanted to approach which I was more then happy to allow. Tall girl, slim with large natural tits and a great ass to along with that. Stunningly beautiful face. Said she was from Poland, age probably somewhere between 30-36 (I'm 34 myself). Nice chat for a little and agreed to go to the room. Again, 30 min, owo and CIM. The same experience again, she was really warm in the room. Some kisses (a bit more then a peck on the lips but not fully DFK) before going all in on the action. Nice blow and then it was a joy to see her bounce on me, first cowgirl and then doggy. Of with the condom and she blew me (laying on the back, me on my knees) until I finished. Good talk and cuddle afterwards. Would 100% repeat, if only to see those boobs again.
When I got back down it was probable something past 3. Since I had a big day the following day I decided against going to the onsite ATMs and to call it quits. All in all, I had a great time and I just hope I can go there again as soon as possible. Again however, I stress that this was my first time in such an establishment and options back home are really limited. Walking into Artemis is therefore a little like walking into heaven for me. I do rue the fact I didn't go again (would have been possible on the Thursday) and I must admit, I have often wondered since what that threesome would have been like. That's just something we will have to do some other time.
[QUOTE=WedelApp;3017890]Hello.
I'm going to be traveling to Berlin for work in September and want to enjoy some of the pleasures or the city while there. Aside from general escorts, strip clubs, and saunas, I'm looking for uniquely German (European) activities since it's all pretty limited in the US.
I'm 43, in decent shape, and straight but open to some fun kinks. I'm not likely going to search out women at bars / clubs as I'd probably stick out there, LOL.
One place I want to visit is FKK Artemis. I've read the posts on this board and have gotten some great info there. I have a few questions I hadn't seen answered in other thread so I thought I'd post here.[/QUOTE]- Mostly naked, but some wore swimwear. Don't worry, you get used to it after a few minutes.
- When I was there, most men swam in the pool naked. Didn't visit the sauna, but I guess it would be the same.
- I saw only one guy naked at the pool that had a boner. TBH, I only got semi-erect when I was entering the rooms with the girls, not at all when in the bar or the restaurant.
- I went with a friend, so I mostly talked with them. Some guys were chatting around, but most of them were just chilling inbetween sessions.
- You pay the ladies after the deed, downstairs.
- You can grab some ass and legs. Just like in a strip club, I guess.
In the words of Skepta:
We need some more girls in here.
We need some more girls in here.
There's too many man, too many many man.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zSAGBDdCfU[/URL]
For every girl there was three men on both nights (20-25 girls and men x3). It was a huge disappointment to pay 90€ to walk into a sausage fest on both nights. I arrived around midnight which should be peak hour on a Friday and Saturday and stayed for a couple of hours. My one and only session was with a Polish girl, 140/30 min BBBJ and CIM. You could tell that is was the girls market as they were turning down a lot of guys and many of the girls weren't even pretty. If this trend continues then the prices will increase.
Thanks! I go next week so I'm really excited.
[QUOTE=Lombo21;3021678]- Mostly naked, but some wore swimwear. Don't worry, you get used to it after a few minutes.
- When I was there, most men swam in the pool naked. Didn't visit the sauna, but I guess it would be the same.
- I saw only one guy naked at the pool that had a boner. TBH, I only got semi-erect when I was entering the rooms with the girls, not at all when in the bar or the restaurant.
- I went with a friend, so I mostly talked with them. Some guys were chatting around, but most of them were just chilling inbetween sessions.
- You pay the ladies after the deed, downstairs.
- You can grab some ass and legs. Just like in a strip club, I guess.[/QUOTE]
It looks like I'm going to be in Berlin at the end of next week so a trip to The A might be possible on Friday. I looked at the Messe timetable and there's a tech conference on this week and a fruit conference on Friday. From memory I recall the club would be packed for the fruit conference in previous years. Is that still the case? I don't mind if it's a little busy but if it's chaos all day I might go elsewhere. I will probably be there from 14.00 or so. Anyone know how crazy it would be?
Anyone got info on a girl who sits at the end of the bar? Not the automatic door end, the kitchen end.
She has long wavy, brown hair, a natural body and wears glasses. She looks a bit like the porn star Leanna Lovings. And she seems very popular.
Wet, grey day in Berlin. I arrived about 13.30 and found the club fairly quiet. I was worried the conference might mean it was busy but it was just a normal, Friday lunctime crowd. I recognised some faces; Fana (Hungary), Riisa, Claudia and Clarice. I rested for a bit and did some walk-abouts. Knocked back Fana about 5 times, she really refuses to take no for an answer. I guess the strategy works for her but I'll never take her upstairs.
I spotted one of my main targets for the day sitting at the bar. So after a quick chat headed upstairs.
[B]Alina[/B]
I've been with Alina a lot in the last year and she always does great work. She brought her strap-on and other toys and we had a lot of fun. Her face and body are absolute joy to me and I know every time will be a good time.
1 hour e300 - definite repeat. Passed on the golden-shower option, but maybe next time.
Things were a little busier now and I decided it was time for my second trip up the stairs. After surveying the options I picked Jennifer.
[B]Jennifer (Germany)[/B]
She has long blonde hair and loads of tattoos. The one on her chest is the most prominent. And great (fake?) tits. I was shocked when she told me she was 39, I'd have put her at late 20's. This was a strange session, with upsells right from the start but I did have a good time. She has a killer body and a fun attitude. Pretty bitchy about other girls there which was fun. I didn't finish and won't repeat but I was still a good time.
It was late afternoon now and the place was getting full. Lots of Chinese and Japanese customers and loads of fine looking babes.
Third session was with a girl who said she was Italian and refused to tell me her name! I kind of liked this and when I asked she said all names are fake anyway so what does it matter.
[B]?? from Italy[/B]
Tanned skin, minor ink on the front including a small tattoo on the bottom of her neck, big piece on her shoulder. Great, small real tits, long thick dark hair and beautiful brown eyes.
Despite her reluctance to give me her name the session was a great time. Loads of energy, kissing and she worked really hard to help me finish.
Probable repeat.
My final girl was one I had been seeing a lot during the day and really caught my eye. She's short and curvy with massive (slightly saggy) real tits. I stopped to chat and we soon headed upstairs.
[B]Salome from Dominican Republic[/B]
This was another great trip up the stairs. Her body is my absolute favourite and the sight of her tits is a joy. As we were in the room I thought some of the lines she was using were familiar so I searched my previous reports and it turns out I'd been with her in August. Only in FKK world can you forget shagging an absolute bombshell like this. This was my fourth session so she put in a great effort to get me off and can take a real pounding. Definite repeat.
I was wiped out after that. Got some food and called it a night. Just before I left I stood at the bottom of the stairs for about 3 minutes and counted 10 couples coming down, looks like business is good. This was another great day at the Artemis and probably my last for this year. So until next time, thanks for reading.
Hi, report: arrived early in the day, scoped out the place, then went to my hotel to check in. Unfortunately I had a couple of issues, didn't sleep the night before and something I ate the morning caused me stomach upset. So, if I had been feeling better my plan was to have a "go" in the afternoon and then check into my hotel and come back. There's a blond lady, maybe tall, but who know, high heels kinda make it confusing, glasses, big, fake boobs, I don't mind fake, I like boobs. She was kept pretty busy, I saw her later that night, should have took the chance then because of my 3rd "companion". Anyway, rested up at my hotel, took some meds, rest and then "ploughed on". Got back in the evening around 8. 30, was busier then, a nice smattering of ladies, 20/30 maybe. So earlier in the day I was approached by two women, turned them both down, first woman was fat basically, so hard no, I am not going to pay for something I don't want for free, I've dated and married fitter than that. Second woman, forget her name, said she was Hungarian (I could be mis remembering and she could have been Claudia from Poland) she said she was 35, I turned her down too, probably a little too pushy too, but that's the job. She had a nice body, natural boobs, dark hair, dark eye (I think, I forget), anyway, when I got back I bumped into her again and I used my brain for once and took her up on her offer and just go with it and get the monkey off my back, instead of banging the 3 hottest birds there and blowing straight away every time I went with the first two ladies who were nice but not intimidatingly so. Took a massage and half hour fuck, (half hour in total). Now, for personal reasons, won't go into details, I was a little bit apprehensive, but, the massage was great, she got really into it and my personal issues were quickly forgotten, well, my little solider forgot anyway. Good time, nice fuck, she was trying to get me to come in the half hour, but well, between tiredness and past issues I didn't. There's a couple of reasons for that, too much fapping over the years being one of them maybe, LOL. I didn't mind though, it was nothing to do with her and it worked out great for me, I had a great time and plenty left in the tank. I'm not a young fella any more so I ain't blowing my load 3 times in one afternoon / evening without taking Viagra or something. €120 for half hour and sensual massage during it. Massage was great, really great start and revved me up. Not worth 50 bucks though (50+70 for the half hour).
[QUOTE=RandomName13;3025795]Hi, report: arrived early in the day, scoped out the place, then went to my hotel to check in. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Winston11;3025004]Wet, grey day in Berlin. I arrived about 13.30 and found the club fairly quiet.
[B]Alina[/B]
[B]Jennifer (Germany)[/B]
[B]?? from Italy[/B]
[B]Salome from Dominican Republic[/B]
probably my last for this year. So until next time, thanks for reading.[/QUOTE]It's so great when people post who they saw, AND what they got. I'm intrigued by Alina, I think I saw her some time ago? I also once saw this German blond Heidi with a six pack and a vice grip that could cut off the blood to your the**k. Haven't seen her in 2 to 3 years, but there's always hope. I will be in town in a month or so, now have a short list. I appreciate your detailed information. I like to hit Artemis, Maria's Massage and one of the Brothels. Variety is the spice of life.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;3025952]It's so great when people post who they saw, AND what they got. I'm intrigued by Alina, I think I saw her some time ago? I also once saw this German blond Heidi with a six pack and a vice grip that could cut off the blood to your the**k. Haven't seen her in 2 to 3 years, but there's always hope. I will be in town in a month or so, now have a short list. I appreciate your detailed information. I like to hit Artemis, Maria's Massage and one of the Brothels. Variety is the spice of life.[/QUOTE]Alina mentioned that last Saturday was her last day for a few weeks because she was off to Japan on holiday. She's easy to spot. Sits at the end of the bar near the automatic door, dark hair and dark eyes and a large 'No Mercy' tattoo across her chest.
This time I managed to spend two days at Artemis. Met 7 girls (and no, before you ask, I didn't finish 7 times! 😅 A couple of times I just went with them to the movie hall or room for a BJ — let's call it a warm-up round, with some touching and of course some of kinky fun too !128521.
Both days were weekdays, so the crowd was lighter than usual. But the highlight for me was spotting the dancer again — the same girl who caught my attention last time. Damn, she's pure magic! Short hair, those half-closed eyes, and that body. Ufff 🔥 Anyone here know her name or any details? Last time I tried speaking with her, and she told me she only dances.
As for the other ladies — the standard services were solid. The two Romanian girls and the Turkish girl were absolutely fantastic! 🙌 Oh, and I also met a German lady who told me she only offers dominant sessions. On the first day, I skipped her since I usually play the Dom role myself. But on the second day, during one of my warm-up rounds, I decided to give her a try.
She really gave it her best shot, but honestly, I couldn't help laughing a few times. She seemed a bit offended at first, but I explained I was just testing the waters to see how it feels to be on the sub side. Afterwards, we ended up having a nice chat (yes, even exchanged a few notes! In the end, it was fun meeting her.
I did feel that a few girls came across as not so interesting / charming, compared to my earlier visits. But overall, the quality is still about the same.
[QUOTE=DeepakSa;3026622]This time I managed to spend two days at Artemis. Met 7 girls (and no, before you ask, I didn't finish 7 times! 😅 A couple of times I just went with them to the movie hall or room for a BJ let's call it a warm-up round, with some touching and of course some of kinky fun too !128521.
Both days were weekdays, so the crowd was lighter than usual. But the highlight for me was spotting the dancer again the same girl who caught my attention last time. Damn, she's pure magic! Short hair, those half-closed eyes, and that body. Ufff 🔥 Anyone here know her name or any details? Last time I tried speaking with her, and she told me she only dances.
As for the other ladies the standard services were solid. The two Romanian girls and the Turkish girl were absolutely fantastic! 🙌 Oh, and I also met a German lady who told me she only offers dominant sessions. On the first day, I skipped her since I usually play the Dom role myself. But on the second day, during one of my warm-up rounds, I decided to give her a try.
She really gave it her best shot, but honestly, I couldn't help laughing a few times. She seemed a bit offended at first, but I explained I was just testing the waters to see how it feels to be on the sub side. Afterwards, we ended up having a nice chat (yes, even exchanged a few notes! In the end, it was fun meeting her.
I did feel that a few girls came across as not so interesting / charming, compared to my earlier visits. But overall, the quality is still about the same.[/QUOTE]What were the prices like for standard. Just curious what you got "offered".
Std is 70.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;3026630]What were the prices like for standard. Just curious what you got "offered".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DeepakSa;3026622]Oh, and I also met a German lady who told me she only offers dominant sessions. On the first day, I skipped her since I usually play the Dom role myself. But on the second day, during one of my warm-up rounds, I decided to give her a try.
She really gave it her best shot, but honestly, I couldn't help laughing a few times. She seemed a bit offended at first, but I explained I was just testing the waters to see how it feels to be on the sub side. Afterwards, we ended up having a nice chat (yes, even exchanged a few notes! In the end, it was fun meeting her.[/QUOTE]Can you remember her name or where she sits in the bar? She sounds like the kind of women I like.
[QUOTE=Winston11;3026825]Can you remember her name or where she sits in the bar? She sounds like the kind of women I like.[/QUOTE]When you enter, on the left hand side. At the beginning of the bar counter. She is german, short hair. Not very tall.
Well, after months of anticipation for not only my first trip to Berlin, but my first to an FKK establishment. Of course, Artemis isn't your typical FKK, or so I've read. Before I recount my experience there, I want to say thank you to everyone that offered help to my questions and all of the information on this board. Now, for the fun part.
I went to the club around 3 pm on 9/6. I had planned on arriving earlier, but it didn't work out. In the end, it's probably best I didn't as I would have really gone broke LOL. After paying the 90 euro at the door and getting my locker, this nervous but anxiously exited American got showered and changed to enter the club. I enter through the locker rooms, so I missed the initial exposure to the bar in the main entrance. Unintentional, but a less abrupt way for me to begin the journey. I took a look around the room and took in the wonderful sight of a handful of beautiful and naked women lounging. I went to the bar and got a soda and proceeded outside as it was a very nice and sunny day. I decided to acclimate and calm my mind at the pool for a few minutes. There weren't many guests out there at the moment, none in the pool. One woman came out to check out the options, but quickly went back inside. After finishing my beverage I decided it was time to enter the lioness den.
Once back in the main lounge, I got another drink, nervous habit, and on the couch along the wall near the door leading to the food area. I observed the ladies, the dated yet oddly charming decor, and the interactions of other guests. Aside from the obvious benefits of Artemis, the people watching is (chef's kiss). After a few minutes, a gorgeous blond with a beautifully tanned and toned body came over to chat. After a few minutes, she asked if I was interested in going upstairs, and it was an easy yes.
#1 Reeva (? Spelling) - Bulgaria. While Reeva was very nice and easy to talk with, she was very much about business. Once in the room she further explained the options and then it was straight to work. She started off with a BBBJ and looking at her incredible body and touching her unbelievably soft skin. Her; masterful technique and supple lips were getting me moving quickly. She, knowing this, pulled off, slipped on the cover, and climbed on top. This was an incredible sight. While she has enhanced tits, they look and feel amazing. She rode me for a few minutes, feigning pleasure, and I enjoyed every moment of her riding my cock and taking in the view. She got off and I pumped her for bit in doggy then into missionary. This she gave the most genuine performance of pleasure, and seeing her tits moving under me was amazing. She asked if I wanted to cum in the cover or her mouth, and I caved. I pulled out and she removed the cover and went to work. It didn't take long with her skill and body for her to be sucking up every drop of her reward. Looks: 10/10, Authenticity 6/10, Pleasure factor 8/10.
After payment and clean-up, it was time for a refreshment and some more time lounging at the pool. Once again, with my drink gone and a bit more pep in my step, I wanted a real drink. So I got a token and had a Jack and Cola. This time I took my drink to the upper level in the main bar area. I watched a beautiful and very well endowed Latina chat with a few guests, go to the bar to get a drink, turn around and lock eyes with me. Once she smile and her eyes sparkled at me, I knew I was done. She came up and sat beside / on me. He massive, natural tits pressing against my arm as we talked. She was sexy from head to toe and brain to voice, and my soldier was began reporting for duty. And she noticed. It didn't take any additional persuasion and we were off to the bedroom.
#2 Solumae (? Spelling) - Dominican Republic. In the room, I was ready to enjoy her supple body. After settling on services and fees, she was on her knees and taking me in. Watching her suck my cock and look up at me with her big, beautiful eyes was incredible. She lifted her gorgeous breasts up to engulf my rod as she licked, sucked, and teased the head. OMG. She could tell it was doing the job as she grinned, giggled and said fuck me now. After putting on the cover with her mouth, she laid on the bed and I began pumping. He moans, and bouncing tits were a sight to behold. After a bit she wanted me to fuck her doggie style, and the mirrors in these rooms are fantastic. Her massive tits swaying to the motion and her smiles made me feel like a king. Sadly, I could tell that regardless of how amazing this all was, that I was likely not going to finish. Between the condoms and just finishing about 45 min prior (I'm no spring chicken,) it probably wasn't going to happen. But that didn't stop her from doing all she could. She wanted me to cum on her tits, so I sat on the edge of the bed while she got on her knees again and began sucking, and then putting my cock between her tits a giving me a good fucking that way. I wanted to spray her, but it wasn't happening to both of our disappointment. We accepted the L and got dressed, I gave her a bit extra for the effort and that was that. Looks: 7.5/10, Authenticity 9/10, Pleasure factor 8.5/10.
Rinse and repeat, this time with some water, and back to the pool. This time, I nearly feel asleep while recovering. I spent a bit more time outside than the previous visit, and felt more recovered, but not ready for another round. But also, ready for more appealing views. So, it was back to the lounge and the couch in the back along the wall. As it was getting a bit later, more and more women and guests were arriving. The quality of women was greatly increasing. After a few minutes, a beautiful blonde and toned woman walked over and sat down by me. We chatted a bit. I told her that I wasn't ready to go to the room yet as I was still recovering. But of course, she's a pro and extremely beautiful, and convinced me to "just go watch some of the movie with her in the theater room. " So off we went.
#3 I forgot her name. Moldova - She had a similarly toned body as Reeva, but a more natural ease about herself and slightly less natural-looking tits. We sat and talked for maybe 2 minutes until she was nearly on my lap, and her hand was in my robe. Taking even less time, my soldier was at attention she said "seems like you're ready now." I didn't know how the time would end, but I knew I was going to enjoy it. She asked I wanted to go to one of the nearby rooms or play where we were, I said that we could start there and see how it goes. This was another attempt for me to get more out of my comfort zone. She opened my robe and went down on me, and did it ever feel amazing. I can't describe what was so different about her and her technique, but things were progressing very fast. I pulled her up from my cock, asked if I could kiss her, she smiled and gave me a DFK while her hand lightly grazed my cock. That was all it took, I told her that I was ready to head to a room, small steps. To the room we went. She asked if I wanted any extras and I knew at that point, it wouldn't have been worth it. She sucked me a little bit more then told me to lay back and she got on. Her face, and body language, had me fully believing she was enjoying herself. She slowly rode me while my hands explored her incredible body. She turned around and rode me reverse, and watching her tight ass bounce was inspiring. Next we went to missionary, and pressing myself against her body nearly made me bust. As we fucked her subtle moans were intoxicating. I loved her little smiles as she looked into my eyes. She said I want you to finish in doggie, so we changed again. Here she went into a very believable performance as we fucked. It was a well-synchronized movement between the two of us. My eyes would shift from looking down at her sculpted ass as I fucked her, running my hand along her toned back. To watching me fuck one of the most beautiful women I have ever even spoken to. And lastly, to locking eyes with her. It was there, while looking in her eyes that she gave the slightest smile and face of pleasure, that I couldn't hold back any longer and I got the sweet release. After some slow pumps and her pushing back into me, she looked at me over her shoulder, smiled, and said "yes. " Looks: 9/10, Authenticity 9/10, Pleasure factor 9.5/10.
Back to the bar for fluids and to the pool. It was getting later, around 6 pm, and I didn't want to have to make the long trek back to my hotel in the dark. So, running low on cash, time, and honestly some physical ability, I knew I didn't have much time before I had to leave. So, I got myself back into the bar. Another Jack and Cola, then sat outside of the bar area and against the wall facing the bar. More new women had arrived and I quickly spotted a tall, toned, and beautiful woman with long braids to the top of her ass. Large fake tits, that, if I'm being honest, weren't the best work I'd seen, but everything else was looking great. We locked eyes, she walked over and sat beside me with her legs across mine. She simply looked into my eyes, gave the biggest smile, and said I'm Hope and I want to fuck you. Trying my best to hold back the shock of how forward she was, the pure excitement, and my shyness, I mustered up the words. "Yeah? Well, I hoped, you come talk to me. " We laughed at my terrible pun and began chatting a bit. I told her that I had been fortunate to spend time with three other beautiful women, but that I was out of time and had to go. She easily convinced me that I needed to spend time with her before I left.
#4 Hope. Caribbean - She told me that it was only her second day working at Artemis, but not in the business. That was clear. She asked what I like and I responded with what was available. In short, anything and everything, for a cost of course. I asked if we could start with the standard 90 and go from there and she was happy to proceed. First things, first, she began by wrapping her big, beautiful lips around my cock and what seemed like took minutes, slowly went down until there was no more to go. Now, I'm not the biggest out there, but I've never had a woman do that before. While down I could feel her swallowing and her tongue licking my cock. Oh. Shit. She sucked me for a good while, changing positions every now and then to give me different areas to touch and things to see. At one point, we were in 69 but she kept just far enough away that I couldn't reach, but looking at her bright pink pussy and tight ass. Wow. She covered me and go on top and started riding. Her smile was just as sexy as the rest of her. She leaned forward and kissed me deeply. My hands began exploring her body and touching her breasts, she pulled back some and then further. She told me that she had just had her tits done about a month prior, still had some suture tape. That was a bummer. But not a deal breaker at all. We fucked doggie for a bit, then she got back on top but in reverse. While riding me, and me loving the views and the entire experience, she starts playing with my balls and rubbing further down with each stroke, before I know it she's knocking on the door. Looks back at me, smiles, and asks without asking. I was putty, and nodded yes. She got another cover, put it on her fingers, added some lube, and in she went. Woah. She fucked my ass while she rode my cock and it was amazing. She climbed off, took me in her mouth again and continued fingering my ass. However, once again, I could tell there weren't going to be fireworks at the end. She had mentioned that squirting was an option, so I asked about that. She said I have another idea. I was a bit nervous, but again, this is about new experiences. She stood up and straddled me, added lube to my cock, and crack. Bending over and looking at me through her legs she said, "stroke it for me baby. " So, stroke I did. While I tugged away, she had one hand playing with my ass and the other her pussy. This view and feeling was completely new, and feeling quite good. Watching her pink pussy pulsate and her juices build, seeing her tits (even freshly done), feeling her in and around my ass, plus the occasional smiles, were all feelin amazing. I went back to watching her delicious pussy while I stroked, and I saw a drop fall, then another, before I knew it I had a full stream of, yes piss, coming down on my neck and chest. If I were asked if I would want this to happen to me, the pissing, I'd have said no. However, in the moment, it was amazing. I felt my soldier get rock solid nearing go time. I said "more," and she complied. Another stream started and I told her I was close. Instantly, she had me in her mouth, fingers deep in my ass, and my load in her throat. This Caribbean queen took me on a journey and it is a trip I'd take again and again. Looks: 8/10, Authenticity 9/10, Pleasure factor 10/10.
After one last shower, I decided to partake in the dinner buffet. It was good, nothing special, but tasty. I sat on the patio near the pool and at my food as the sun was setting. It was time for me to go. I made one last, slow pass through the room trying to take as many mental pictures I could. I gave the girls I could find that I had I spent time with a hug and one last look.
I loved my visit to Artemis and can't wait to go again. I don't know if that will ever happen, but I'm glad I got this experience.
[QUOTE=WedelApp;3027606]I loved my visit to Artemis and can't wait to go again. I don't know if that will ever happen, but I'm glad I got this experience.[/QUOTE]Thanks so much for your report! It's always great when newbies give something back. I'm glad you had a wonderful time, and I hope you are fortunate enough to not only experience Artemis again, but also some of the other nice clubs around Germany. Welcome to the club!
[QUOTE=WedelApp;3027606]Well, after months of anticipation for not only my first trip to Berlin, but my first to an FKK establishment.
I loved my visit to Artemis and can't wait to go again. I don't know if that will ever happen, but I'm glad I got this experience.[/QUOTE]Thank you for giving back. So few people do! Marvelous report. You must be 21. DAMN. Two for me and they almost need the heart paddles. Congrats. Are.
By the way, I will be there soon, if I can find Hope might have to give in to a trip to the Dominican (dominican vacation? That's going to be my new name for rain showers while prostrate. HA HA.
Might try to get this added to the Urban Dictionary. Can be your contribution!
Marvelous. If you remember any names in your sleep, come back and add them to the folder All the best. The Moldavian sounds great as well.
[QUOTE=WedelApp;3027606]Well, after months of anticipation for not only my first trip to Berlin, but my first to an FKK establishment. Of course, Artemis isn't your typical FKK, or so I've read. Before I recount my experience there, I want to say thank you to everyone that offered help to my questions and all of the information on this board. Now, for the fun part.
I went to the club around 3 pm on 9/6. I had planned on arriving earlier, but it didn't work out. In the end, it's probably best I didn't as I would have really gone broke LOL. After paying the 90 euro at the door and getting my locker, this nervous but anxiously exited American got showered and changed to enter the club. I enter through the locker rooms, so I missed the initial exposure to the bar in the main entrance. Unintentional, but a less abrupt way for me to begin the journey. I took a look around the room and took in the wonderful sight of a handful of beautiful and naked women lounging. I went to the bar and got a soda and proceeded outside as it was a very nice and sunny day. I decided to acclimate and calm my mind at the pool for a few minutes. There weren't many guests out there at the moment, none in the pool. One woman came out to check out the options, but quickly went back inside. After finishing my beverage I decided it was time to enter the lioness den..[/QUOTE]Solid report. Thank you.
Was there any younger than 25 present?
LOL, no, not 21. I think it was just willing my way through it to not miss out on anything. Trying to spend time with as many as I physically could. It was pretty great overall for my first time.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;3027811]Thank you for giving back. So few people do! Marvelous report. You must be 21. DAMN. Two for me and they almost need the heart paddles. Congrats. Are.
By the way, I will be there soon, if I can find Hope might have to give in to a trip to the Dominican (dominican vacation? That's going to be my new name for rain showers while prostrate. HA HA.
Might try to get this added to the Urban Dictionary. Can be your contribution!
Marvelous. If you remember any names in your sleep, come back and add them to the folder All the best. The Moldavian sounds great as well.[/QUOTE]
Thanks! Yeah, there were a few later in the day.
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;3028804]Solid report. Thank you.
Was there any younger than 25 present?[/QUOTE]
Artemis traditionally has been my second favorite club in Germany. As I entered the club after many years away, I quickly remembered why. It's well-appointed and very well laid out. There's nothing weird or quirky in terms of the layout, and it's pretty easy to navigate the place. It seemed that some minor renovations took place over the years, but the club appeared mostly as I remembered it. One thing that was different was the exorbitant entrance fee of 90 euros! That was the highest entrance fee I have paid so far this trip, and I think it's just too high for what you get. As I entered, the receptionist told me that it was 70 euros for half an hour with a girl, up from 60 the last time I patronized this club.
I arrived around 4 pm to a club that was moderately busy with plenty of guys and gals on hand. It was hard to say how many girls, but I would have to say that the optics were mostly disappointing. I know that I have gotten to be really, really picky over the years. I didn't like this girl because of her tits. No to this one because of her face. And no to that one because of her body! I was approached by girls from the Dominican Republic, Turkey, Spain, and of course Romania. No, no, no, no! I know that some of it is me. Maybe I'm being too picky. But then again, I know that the quality optics that were at this club when I first discovered it are simply no longer present. Food was served at 6 pm, and as I sat and ate and scanned the room, my thought was that, "These girls aren't attractive. They just aren't attractive"! And speaking of the food, I could not believe there was not even one meat option available! You have to be kidding me right? You're charging a 90 euro admission fee and you can't even offer fucking roasted chicken? Just unconscionable! GTFOH!
I finished eating my 100% veggies dinner and sat around for several hours more hoping that at least one or two girls more to my liking would show up for second shift. Well, nobody ever did! It's not that all the girls present were totally unfuckable. It's just that nobody was really making me want to act and spend any money on them. In fact, I found most of the girls to be aloof and uninterested, besides being mostly unattractive to me. The one girl whose tits I didn't like was actually probably the best fit to my likes overall. Her name was "Lina", a blonde German tute with that "girl next door" kind of look. I saw her go for four sessions in as many hours. And that's just what I saw. How many guys had she been with that day already? That's important because she's not a machine. As the day wears on, you can expect that her energy and therefore performance will decline. It's a rare tute who can keep bringing it trick after trick after trick! I made note of Lina as a possibility the next time. I'll come earlier in the day, and hopefully catch her fresh if I decide I want her.
I don't know guys. I just don't know what I'm going to do! So far trip, I have spent more money on Ubers and club admission fees than I have on actually fucking any girls! This trip overall really is not going very well. It's not going well at all! Optics quality way down. Prices way up! I have quite a bit of time left here in Germany. Enough time for it all to possibly turn around into something at least better, if not good. I don't know what I'm going to do my mongers. I don't know what I'm going to do! At least the cigarette smoke wasn't so bad at Artemis this time. It's the worst during the dead of winter when they don't want to open any windows because the girls get cold. You know it's a sad state of affairs when some of the best news I can report about Artemis is regarding the level of cigarette smoke. Sigh! Still hopeful for better. Keep hope alive!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3031851]Artemis traditionally has been my second favorite club in Germany. As I entered the club after many years away, I quickly remembered why. It's well-appointed and very well laid out. There's nothing weird or quirky in terms of the layout, and it's pretty easy to navigate the place. It seemed that some minor renovations took place over the years, but the club appeared mostly as I remembered it. One thing that was different was the exorbitant entrance fee of 90 euros! That was the highest entrance fee I have paid so far this trip, and I think it's just too high for what you get. As I entered, the receptionist told me that it was 70 euros for half an hour with a girl, up from 60 the last time I patronized this club.
I arrived around 4 pm to a club that was moderately busy with plenty of guys and gals on hand. It was hard to say how many girls, but I would have to say that the optics were mostly disappointing. I know that I have gotten to be really, really picky over the years. I didn't like this girl because of her tits. No to this one because of her face. And no to that one because of her body! I was approached by girls from the Dominican Republic, Turkey, Spain, and of course Romania. No, no, no, no! I know that some of it is me. Maybe I'm being too picky. But then again, I know that the quality optics that were at this club when I first discovered it are simply no longer present. Food was served at 6 pm, and as I sat and ate and scanned the room, my thought was that, "These girls aren't attractive.[/QUOTE]Was planning to go on Thursday. Now I will not go. Thanks for the update.
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;3032089]Was planning to go on Thursday. Now I will not go. Thanks for the update.[/QUOTE]I have a long history of reporting on this site. I try to be open, honest, and fair. But, I always caution that these are my opinions. What works for me may not work for someone else, and vice versa. But what I can say about my current reporting on the sex industry in Germany is this. It falls into line with what so, so many of the other guys have said about prices being way up and quality way down. Things came to a halt with COVID, and then never recovered to their former glory once the pandemic ended. That's the current state of affairs in FKKLand, and we can only hope that one day things can get back to where they were in terms of hot, attractive girls being on premises for P4P sex. And hopefully at a price that we can still afford!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3031851]Artemis traditionally has been my second favorite club in Germany. As I entered the club after many years away, I quickly remembered why. It's well-appointed and very well laid out. There's nothing weird or quirky in terms of the layout, and it's pretty easy to navigate the place. It seemed that some minor renovations took place over the years, but the club appeared mostly as I remembered it. One thing that was different was the exorbitant entrance fee of 90 euros! That was the highest entrance fee I have paid so far this trip, and I think it's just too high for what you get. As I entered, the receptionist told me that it was 70 euros for half an hour with a girl, up from 60 the last time I patronized this club.
I arrived around 4 pm to a club that was moderately busy with plenty of guys and gals on hand. It was hard to say how many girls, but I would have to say that the optics were mostly disappointing. I know that I have gotten to be really, really picky over the years. I didn't like this girl because of her tits. No to this one because of her face. And no to that one because of her body! I was approached by girls from the Dominican Republic, Turkey, Spain, and of course Romania. No, no, no, no! I know that some of it is me. Maybe I'm being too picky. But then again, I know that the quality optics that were at this club when I first discovered it are simply no longer present.[/QUOTE]Lina tried Sharks, but I missed her. What was your problem about her look? Except piercings on nipples which is problem for me.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3032204]Lina tried Sharks, but I missed her. What was your problem about her look? Except piercings on nipples which is problem for me.[/QUOTE]Yes, she told me she tried Sharks and one other club I can't recall now. Like you, I kind of didn't like her tits. I agree that the piercings may be a part of the problem. But, she is a [B]very[/B] popular girl at Artemis. I took my turn and fucked her today. Story coming!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3032116]I have a long history of reporting on this site. I try to be open, honest, and fair. But, I always caution that these are my opinions. What works for me may not work for someone else, and vice versa. But what I can say about my current reporting on the sex industry in Germany is this. It falls into line with what so, so many of the other guys have said about prices being way up and quality way down. Things came to a halt with COVID, and then never recovered to their former glory once the pandemic ended. That's the current state of affairs in FKKLand, and we can only hope that one day things can get back to where they were in terms of hot, attractive girls being on premises for P4P sex. And hopefully at a price that we can still afford![/QUOTE]I agree about the COVID recovery period. I also think a few other things happened. It's been 4-5 years for most people. Yes prices in FKKland went up but so did prices everywhere.
As to Artemis specifically, I find that the lack of variety makes the rating scale more problematic If 85% of the girls in Sharks / Artemis are Ro and thin, oval faces don't put a bump in your towel, then it does make it problematic. All it takes for me is that ONE girl, who occasionally wanders in to work. In Samya it was an Italian, in Artemis it was a German, (her younger 'twin' sister appeared one day in Ingoldstadt), Those days make all the bad ones worth it!
Go deep, go often, and may the girls bend over for you. (That's my translation of Live Long and Prosper).
[QUOTE=TheCane;3031851]Artemis traditionally has been my second favorite club in Germany. As I entered the club after many years away, I quickly remembered why. It's well-appointed and very well laid out. There's nothing weird or quirky in terms of the layout, and it's pretty easy to navigate the place. It seemed that some minor renovations took place over the years, but the club appeared mostly as I remembered it. One thing that was different was the exorbitant entrance fee of 90 euros! That was the highest entrance fee I have paid so far this trip, and I think it's just too high for what you get. As I entered, the receptionist told me that it was 70 euros for half an hour with a girl, up from 60 the last time I patronized this club.
I arrived around 4 pm to a club that was moderately busy with plenty of guys and gals on hand. It was hard to say how many girls, but I would have to say that the optics were mostly disappointing. I know that I have gotten to be really, really picky over the years. I didn't like this girl because of her tits. No to this one because of her face.[/QUOTE]For my final day in Berlin, I returned to Artemis with my game day face and my battle paint on. Today I'm fucking. [B]Somebody[/B]! Banzai! LOL! I decided that my target was going to be Lina, the blonde, German girl who I had spoken to briefly just a few days earlier (I had gotten over my initial reaction to her pierced tits). I decided to get to the club as close to opening time as possible because I could see that she was doing a lot of rooms, and I wanted her fresh. I mean like I reported earlier, I saw her do 4 rooms in about 4 hours the last time. No telling how many she had already done, and how many more she would do! And for the record, I know for a fact that Lina did 6 rooms during my last visit to Artemis, took a break, then came back around 8 pm for some more! She's definitely in the 1000 euros a day club and doesn't even have to "solicit" to get steady tricks. All she does is park herself somewhere in the main area, and guys are steady choosing her to go to the room. There is one other German girl with long, dark hair and a pretty face going by "Alexandria" who gets lots of rooms too. I would say she's a close number 2 behind Lina for steady business at Artemis.
I ubered to the club and arrived at 11:30 am. Paid my 90 euros entrance fee, and my plan was to change into a robe and shower, then hit the bar to see if Lina was already on the stroll. If not, then I would go ahead and have breakfast and wait for her to show up. Well, no Lina, so off to breakfast it was. And a good breakfast it was too! You could find all of the typical things available at a good European continental breakfast spread, but also scrambled eggs and bacon American style, which I greatly appreciated. Ate my breakfast, then headed back to the bar for some coffee, then took a seat to wait for Lina. Well, I didn't have to wait long, because between Noon and 12:30 pm in walks the object of my desires! She walked past me and I said her name to get her attention. I wasn't sure if she had heard me as she walked past and took a seat at the bar. Well, there were other mongers already present too, and no way was I about to let any of them beat me to her! A lion is still hungry! A lion still has to eat! And it's the top lion king who gets to eat first! I was up out of my seat and next to Lina faster than you can say Jackie Robinson! The Cane is going to get on her first!
Lina has a pleasant and easy going disposition with a nice smile. Like I said, she has that cute "girl next door" look. The kind of girl you always fantasized about dating, and if she was a good girl then she is the one who you introduce to the rest of the family and propose marriage to. You know, that type. I wasn't sure if she remembered me from just a few nights before. These girls fuck so many guys that I don't think they would recognize their own brothers if they came strutting in their in robes LOL! I reminded her of when and where we spoke, and I think she remembered after that. Lina told me that she was 22 years old and from Hamburg. I told her how I had just been in Hamburg and how bad the FKK scene was there, especially at Atmos, and she agreed. I asked Lina how long she had been working at Artemis, and for some reason she didn't want to answer. But, I knew it had been at least since May of 2022 because I did a search on her name on ISG and found a report mentioning her from that time. Don't know why she didn't want to tell me.
Lina asked me if I was interested in going to the room, and I said yes, but we didn't have to go right away. I mean, I had literally "bum rushed" her (pun intended) as soon as she walked into the bar LOL. I still had my coffee and some water to finish. She had gotten something to drink as we were talking. She asked if she could take time for a cigarette, and I was like sure! We used that time to work out the deal. I said I wanted an hour with massage, BBBJ, CIM, straight sex, and anal. Lina said she didn't do anal (dang), but she was OK with everything else. Her price was 250 euros. Well, that was on par with what I had paid for the same services during this trip. So, I was OK with it. We finished our drinks and her the cigarette, then off to the room. I like to follow behind the girl and spy on her butt as she walks, seeing the cheeks switch back and forth. Always revs me up and gets me prepped for action with a stiff boner! And Lina has a nice arsch too! Not too big and not too small. Not too hard and not too soft! In the zimmer, we started with the massage first, and it was extra pleasing to me as it made up for the disaster that had just occurred the previous day. I would say that Lina's massage skills were "sufficient". I have had better, but I've also had worse. Much worse! After a good rub down from head to toe, it was time for the fucking and sucking!
Lina's BBBJ skills were damn good! I like how she sucked and spit and flicked her tongue all over the sensitive head of my dick. Oh, to look down and see that pretty face of hers as she sucked voraciously! Man, I'm getting my dick sucked by the girl next door! If I'm not careful, she's going to make me cum too soon! I asked Lina if she liked 69, and she said yes, but that it would be 50 euros more to eat her out. Well bunk that! I wasn't trying to pay more than 250. I decided I had to taste this pretty girl's "arschloch". I mean, how often do you get to eat the puss and ass of the girl next door! To keep the price at 250, I chose to skip the CIM (we had already agreed that if I didn't CIM then I wouldn't be paying for that) in favor of eating Lina out. She swung around and assumed the position, and I let my mouth do the talking as it should LOL. I ate the pussy and kissed Lina's nice ass. But I noticed that when I tongued her butt hole she moved her ass up a little bit. I asked then about eating her ass, and she said she didn't like that! Well, too late because an "anal connoisseur" already got a taste LMAO! From 69 we went into cowgirl. Lina declined to use one of my condoms saying she had to take precautions because of the things guys have been known to do. I said I understood.
She sucked on one of her condoms then mounted me. The pussy was tight! Didn't feel to me that she had popped any babies out yet. I looked up in rapture at Lina's smiling face. Her pretty, blue-eyed, blonde-haired, Teutonic face. I thought, "I have such lust in my heart for the German. Me and my boy Mr. Ho both have so much lust in our dark hearts for the attractive, Aryan, German". I requested that we switch to doggy so that I could hit that arsch some. No problem for Lina who assumed the position, head down and arsch up in the air. I hit it for just a little bit before deciding I preferred missionary so I could "nut" in this good looking girl. My "next door neighbor". Lina was quickly onto her back and legs up ankles near her head to allow maximum penetration. I pushed into her warm moistness as she looked up into my eyes with a huge grin on her face. It was another moment of rapture for me. Looking down at those sparkling blue eyes, that attractive dark blonde hair, and those pearly whites. Staring back into Lina's eyes, I told her how rec pretty that she was, and how good that blonde, German pussy of hers was. I said that there was nothing better than to be fucking a "blondie", and that a German blondie was the best. To this she actually started giggling!
I decided that I was ready to cum. That it was time to blow. With the way Lina had her legs up, this perfectly exposed her butt cheeks, which I started to hit with to a rhythmic "smack, smack, smack, smack, smack". "Oh the German pussy! Oh that blonde German pussy! Oh the German pussy feels [B]so[/B], so good. I'm going to! I'm going to cum"! All the while Lina is looking up at me smiling! Right into my eyes. Seemingly taking pleasure in the fact that she was giving me so much pleasure. I wanted to kiss her pink lips just before beginning to spurt, but it was actually more enjoyable to keep the staring into each other's eyes while fucking. Well, my eyes were both opening and closing LOL! I kept up with the smacking lewdly against Lina's plumb ass cheeks, closed my eyes, and got "the good feeling" all over my body before finally letting loose with a healthy load! And with that, Lina helped me clean up, and we had some pleasant small talk. We went down to the little lockers where us mongers keep our money, and I paid Lina the previously agreed upon 250 euros. A couple of pecks on her "other cheeks", and we went our separate ways, occasionally acknowledging each other when we saw each other in the club later. I hung around to see if I might fancy anyone else. I spoke briefly to a Polish girl going by "Nellie" but passed because her face fell a bit short of standard. Talked to a Romanian girl who was a bit too thin for me, and her face kind of hard. Damn have I gotten picky! This is a part of the problem, and I know it. But, it's a good problem to have. It means that if I do choose a girl, then yes she's floating my boat. And being so picky helps to keep spending down and saves money.
In the meantime, I kept my eyes on Lina from a distance. And watched her go fuck trick after trick. Roughly about one on the hour every hour before taking a break around dinner time before coming back. I thought, "Well, I got on her first bros. I got on her first. At least today I did"! LMFAO! I wonder if Lina will ever be able to find true love and her own sexual fulfillment? I mean, for women it's a whole other emotional dimension. She's fucking so many guys every single day will she become jaded? Or maybe she is already? If she is, then you would never know it. And who am I to say that at her current stage in life, she's not receiving the sexual fulfillment she desires for right now? I mean, she's pleasant and easygoing and smiles and laughs a lot. She knows how to engage with guys and make them feel comfortable. And she told me she likes what she's doing as her job. Plus she's sure as hell making a lot of money. That's for damn sure! I don't know. It just seems to me that a woman who keeps fucking so many men day after day after day might get jaded and just start to look upon us men as hunting and grunting beasts looking to hunch off on as many attractive females as possible. Well, right now she's good at her job. I know that much. She satisfied me physically and mentally during our session. I fucked in Frankfurt. I fucked in Hamburg. And now I had a good fuck in Berlin with a rare German find at an FKK club. That's what matters most to me right now. So onward ho I go!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3032243]Yes, she told me she tried Sharks and one other club I can't recall now. Like you, I kind of didn't like her tits. I agree that the piercings may be a part of the problem. But, she is a [B]very[/B] popular girl at Artemis. I took my turn and fucked her today. Story coming![/QUOTE]My mistake, I understood You didn't go with her because You didn't like her breasts. Piercings on nipples are killing excitement, too porn for me. Was she good for sex, real FK? Pity she didn't succeed at Sharks.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3032308]My mistake, I understood You didn't go with her because You didn't like her breasts. Piercings on nipples are killing excitement, too porn for me. Was she good for sex, real FK? Pity she didn't succeed at Sharks.[/QUOTE]I can see why working at Sharks can be a double edged sword for a girl. On the one hand you have lots and lots of potential clients. But on the other hand there is lots and lots of competition from other girls. At Sharks, Lina was just another pretty face. But at Artemis, another club with a strong clientele but not as much competition, she sits upon the throne as the number one tute. She is the Queen of Artemis. She is a good business woman who made a smart move to dramatically increase her sales!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3032304]For my final day in Berlin, I returned to Artemis with my game day face and my battle paint on. Today I'm fucking. [B]Somebody[/B]! Banzai! LOL! I decided that my target was going to be Lina, the blonde, German girl who I had spoken to briefly just a few days earlier (I had gotten over my initial reaction to her pierced tits). I decided to get to the club as close to opening time as possible because I could see that she was doing a lot of rooms, and I wanted her fresh. I mean like I reported earlier, I saw her do 4 rooms in about 4 hours the last time. No telling how many she had already done, and how many more she would do! And for the record, I know for a fact that Lina did 6 rooms during my last visit to Artemis, took a break, then came back around 8 pm for some more! She's definitely in the 1000 euros a day club and doesn't even have to "solicit" to get steady tricks. All she does is park herself somewhere in the main area, and guys are steady choosing her to go to the room. There is one other German girl with long, dark hair and a pretty face going by "Alexandria" who gets lots of rooms too. I would say she's a close number 2 behind Lina for steady business at Artemis..[/QUOTE]Many upselling Lina for 69, licking, probably kissing. Probably why she didn't get good enough business at Sharks where some pretties provide all for 100.
I went to Artemis twice in early September. Just wanted to share my experience. Overall, there were more hot girls when I went in October 2024. Still there are some nice ones. I prefer slim girls.
I went with 4 girls total over 2 nights. One hot blonde Bulgarian, one slim Turkish girl, one slim blonde Romanian, and one brunette Romanian with nice natural boobs. Three were good, the Bulgarian and the 2 Romanians. The Turkish one, her name is Aileen, was the worst. I've been to Artemis many times over the years, and this Turkish girl was my only bad experience here, and it was quite bad. Avoid her! I agreed for a 30 minute session with her for 90 euros. Basically, she was rushing things so much that it totally ruined the vibe and the experience. When I wanted a little bit more of something, whether its kissing her boobs or BJ, she said no and just wanted to get things over with. We proceeded to sex. But given her attitude I was losing my erection. So she said she'll just give me a hand job. OK, fine. But even that, after a short while she said her hand hurts, and that no more. That's ridiculous. I said lets just try sex again, she said no.
I said I want to complain to the manager about her. Lets go to the reception. So we did. Unfortunately there was a very long line of guys waiting to get in, so I couldn't talk to the girl at the reception. I ended up just paying her her 90 euros reluctantly. Worst experience. I even tried to reach the manager of Artemis by email the day after, but they said if there are problems, I should have talked to the front desk that night. Oh well. One very bad apple in an otherwise decent visit to Artemis.
So it's been a week or more since I left and usually I make some notes so I don't foget the details. But 4 nights of nude girls and double sessions in all but the first day has made a mockery of my memory skills.
I arrived between 4 and 5 and a handful of men and about 2 x women. No one seemed to be going to the rooms. Lots of girls rubbing themselves against men scattered around the outskirts of the room. Found Melissa to start. Short Ro, brown hair, small perky breasts, tight hips and ass. She immediately agreed to anal. One pick, one ask, one win. BUT. She said she needed a bit of time to get ready as I was her first of the night. 30 minutes later I went back over and she shook her head and said her lower parts were a bit "congested", which is enough of a warning to go with the rest of her offerings. Patience not my strong suit. 90 for 30 min with deep, sloppy french and some nice sex. I'm sure I loosed her up. So to speak. At least my thighs had a work out. No kissiing though. What's up with that?!
Off I went to the massage area to grab 30 minutes of working out the muscles. What I dislike about Artemis massage is that it's in the main wellness bereich and the breeze, hard smell of chlorine and the constant movement of men makes it harder to just zone in my massage heaven. (first world problems, right). Nice chat with the Younger of the two massage guys, somehow compensated for the bad atmosphere.
Several coffees, a nice long talk with an Indian guy from metropolitan NY areas. We compared notes. He pointed to a big boned blond lady that he had just poked. Right away I'm downgrading this guy to a wanker. I mean, HER, with all the others in the room. But of course, taste is definitely a matter of "taste". He paid 240 for 45 and got BBBJ, massage and sex in multiple positioins. He did say she wouldn't allow him to touch her pussy. OK strike 2, bad taste and bad bargaoining. He said there were other things he could "add on" but I decided I didn't need to know the menu to realize I wasn't going to dine at her pussy.
I asked what he planned next and he pointed across the room at a very cute girl I hadn't seen. Mr Big Spender just rose up in my estimation. So I walked over to her side and ordered another double crema debating on whether to toss in a brandy. Waiting for the coffee she started to lean into me. Good sign! Well Mr Metropolitan, you snooze you lose. She said her name was Kateliaya or Kataleya or YA YA YA. A shorter attractive fit brunette in a tight package. German via eastern Europe. (not RO but not Russian) Little me had taken over at this point and started to open up the robe by himself, so I can't remember some of the less important details. I asked her about her skill set. She said 70 - 90 plus 100 for anal and she was fresh and very tight, maybe I couldn't get it in. I'm a guy always up for a challenge. She also said her best skill was her oral ability. So I said, could she go an hour? She said, 40 more and she'd toss in a massage. NOW THIS WAS PROMISING. But no kissing. (she was the 4th girl who said NO to kissing. In the past it's always been YES but 50+ - and before you say, maybe I forgot to brush my teeth, this has never ever been an issue across the FKK worlds).
Anyway, in the room, long long long BJ, working all the areas, and adding a bit of finger nail and then a massage between the butt cheeks, Then she slipped on the condom and off we rode. Then she asked if I wanted to try cowgirl anal. (Call me the Lone Ranger). Then she said, if I wanted her on top, I needed to stay harder longer, and the only way to fix that was to start again with oral. (Damn the massage and damn not finding her first!) Off went the condom, back to french, back to mish, back to back (door) Was going to do an Amy Winehouse joke, but.
Anyway, I got a bit tired and she said, I got one condom left young Skywalker use it wisely (I'm throwing every metaphor into this cauldron). AND OFF We went to French, and her magic fingers. And then some crazy moves to get the condom on while using my chest and nipples as a pussy massager, then some other kama sutra stance, then side saddle anal, followed by doggie anal and me screaming HI OH SILVER and Tanto bring the rescue wagon. Massage, some great conversation about how her first anal of the night is always tough for guys as she doesn't "open up easily".
Dinner pasta and shrimp. Meh. Salad, basic, dessert and shower. Then off to the Ubahn cause there is NO UBER connection at that point. It's not a bad walk and I had a couple German guys to chat with who were also going to StadtMitte. My balls were sore but happy, empty, completely empty. And I swear I could still taste the sweet flavor of sex. Oh yeah, I paid less than the other guy paid.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;3036078]So it's been a week or more since I left and usually I make some notes so I don't foget the details. But 4 nights of nude girls and double sessions in all but the first day has made a mockery of my memory skills.
I arrived between 4 and 5 and a handful of men and about 2 x women. No one seemed to be going to the rooms. Lots of girls rubbing themselves against men scattered around the outskirts of the room. Found Melissa to start. Short Ro, brown hair, small perky breasts, tight hips and ass. She immediately agreed to anal. One pick, one ask, one win. BUT. She said she needed a bit of time to get ready as I was her first of the night. 30 minutes later I went back over and she shook her head and said her lower parts were a bit "congested", which is enough of a warning to go with the rest of her offerings. Patience not my strong suit. 90 for 30 min with deep, sloppy french and some nice sex. I'm sure I loosed her up. So to speak. At least my thighs had a work out. No kissiing though. What's up with that?.[/QUOTE]And me envious! Virtually all the girls I liked last trip weren't offering anal. And there you were getting anal right from the get go! Lina didn't even like me putting my tongue in her arsch. But I got me some anyway hahaha! And surprised you couldn't get an Uber at any time from Artemis. Berlin is a huge, 24/7 city. Only place I had a problem was trying to get back from World, which is in the middle of nowhere.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;3036078]Then she asked if I wanted to try cowgirl anal. (Call me the Lone Ranger). Then she said, if I wanted her on top, I needed to stay harder longer, and the only way to fix that was to start again with oral. Off went the condom, back to french, back to mish, back to back (door) Was going to do an Amy Winehouse joke, but.
doggie anal and me screaming HI OH SILVER and Tanto bring the rescue wagon. My balls were sore but happy, empty, completely empty. And I swear I could still taste the sweet flavor of sex. Oh yeah, I paid less than the other guy paid.[/QUOTE]Really enjoyed the very entertaining report. Thanks!
[QUOTE=TheCane;3036088]And me envious! Virtually all the girls I liked last trip weren't offering anal. And there you were getting anal right from the get go! Lina didn't even like me putting my tongue in her arsch. But I got me some anyway hahaha! And surprised you couldn't get an Uber at any time from Artemis. Berlin is a huge, 24/7 city. Only place I had a problem was trying to get back from World, which is in the middle of nowhere.[/QUOTE]I would say that more than half of the ladies I ask say yes to anal. AND I wonder is it something I help select by the ladies I talk to? Is it a look or a type. (Is my dick so small they figure they won't feel it anyway- joke!) I was just surprised how NOT ONE of the ladies in Artemis tried to upsell me on kissing. That was more of a shocker on how easy it was to find anal.
I remember my wing man being surprised on our second trip together how direct I was. He's more of a warm them up and see if she's sympatico. I was more, if they don't offer anal, how sympatico can they be. I'm saving them the effort and the disappointment. But there are occasions when the look or the vibe outweighs the offer. Like when a lady said, her pussy was tighter than most girls' asses and damn if she wasn't right. Still. I haven't noticed a lack of available ladies. BUT MAYBE I have a much lower standard than you. Maybe you'd turn your nose up at some of the girls I pick. That'd be OK MORE FOR ME.
I'll be traveling across Germany Austria and maybe Switzerland next month, I'll try and keep an excel spread sheet.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3032304] Lina told me that she was 22 years old and from Hamburg. I told her how I had just been in Hamburg and how bad the FKK scene was there, especially at Atmos, and she agreed. I asked Lina how long she had been working at Artemis, and for some reason she didn't want to answer. But, I knew it had been at least since May of 2022 because I did a search on her name on ISG and found a report mentioning her from that time. Don't know why she didn't want to tell me.[/QUOTE]She was 21 back in 2019, so makes her at least 27 now. I'm bored of Artemis now, otherwise I'd happily go just to see her again. Katalia is another one that I keep a particular eye out for.
[QUOTE=Rambambinoz;3041575]She was 21 back in 2019, so makes her at least 27 now. I'm bored of Artemis now, otherwise I'd happily go just to see her again.[/QUOTE]And she's fucking [B]everybody[/B] making big money! Clearly the most desired girl in the club, at least when I was there last. Constantly turning tricks. Don't know how she can keep going after all of these years.