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Thank you for fun report
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New report:
Today I walked to the infamous playa Hollywood I libe not far from it. I was going to ask for Tony but a guy named Jose got me and daid he would give me 2 chairs under umbrella right in front of the beach for 40 mil pesis. I said okay and bring me a pina colada for 30 mil pesos and a mucho sexy chica. He said should have to buy him a 10 mil peso beer for his help I said okay take 2 beers if you find me sexy chica.[/QUOTE]I don't understand why mongers keep seeking out Tony. That Tony is the lowest and scummiest of the worst scum on planet Earth, I remember reading about his fucked-up antics on the old sex board, which has been defunct for 20 years! That should tell you something. It's mind-boggling how people who know what an infernal piece of shit he is, keep giving him business and tipping him on top of it, mind you, knowing too well he's going to fuck them up no matter what. Too funny!
[QUOTE=HighOnTravel;2622293]However lots of Venezuelan turned vendors are harassing always as I tried to communicate. I snapped on one vendor and said. I said fir fucks sakes no means no now go away vamos! He circled us all angry looking while the girl with me talked to him. I gathered myself and told him sorry but nosotros gusta un solo. I think that means we want to be left alone haha my broken Spanish is terrible he still hung around. I said no no no no go go go tu vamos ahora! He begrudgingly gave up and walked away.
The vendors if you get a chair there. Holy crap. I am. Not polite anymore. The girl with me was very. Polite but I see them now if they force eye contact from me I just point to the distance and say tu vamos! No gusta! . If they do get a look I just glare at them because I effin hate them ruining the beach there. They are so effin rude. They see you trying to have private them and they just don't gaf will interrupt you.
A massage latey got all upset at me because I told her Vamos! Loudly she had a little knife cutting a mango telling me to buy it while giving me a bad look. I looked at her and said I do not owe you anything tu vanos ahora!
To my surprise she laughed and called me handsome then she gave me a hug and walked off. Wtf I thought.[/QUOTE]What did you expect? You keep telling them "let's go," LOL. Of course, they have no idea what you're trying to say. You're just confusing the hell out of every tout who has a misfortune to stand in your way.
Just in case, it was a joke, but next time don't say vamos. Tell them vete de aqui, or if you want to imitate Sr. Tall Man, "cabróand Hijo de puta, muérete no quiero verte. ".
Although what do I know? I don't speak the language, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Xpartan;2622391]I don't understand why mongers keep seeking out Tony. That Tony is the lowest and scummiest of the worst scum on planet Earth, I remember reading about his fucked-up antics on the old sex board, which has been defunct for 20 years! That should tell you something. It's mind-boggling how people who know what an infernal piece of shit he is, keep giving him business and tipping him on top of it, mind you, knowing too well he's going to fuck them up no matter what. Too funny!
What did you expect? You keep telling them "let's go," LOL. Of course, they have no idea what you're trying to say. You're just confusing the hell out of every tout who has a misfortune to stand in your way.
Just in case, it was a joke, but next time don't say vamos. Tell them vete de aqui, or if you want to imitate Sr. Tall Man, "cabrand Hijo de puta, murete no quiero verte. ".
Although what do I know? I don't speak the language, LOL.[/QUOTE]I always use a simple 'No. Gracias", along with a slight shake of my head and a little wave of my hand at waist height. If they persist I'll give them a long look k and repeat myself and that usually works.
The only time it failed completely was while I was waiting for someone near the Prado metro station in Medellin. I think the guy might be a gringo who long ago got drugged out and ended up as a homeless addict in Medellin.
The guy is about 6 foot, red hair and beard. I've seen him a few times. He started in with some story about needing money for medicine for his eye. After my second No, gracias he started cussing me out, switching between English and Spanish.
He eventually went away but he was cussing me.
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Tony!
[QUOTE=HighOnTravel;2622293]They changed the rules. You can bring guests in the day time just not at night. And they have a very strict woman who works at night. I have lived here 6 weeks. They know me very well.
Since no one is making reports ill make one. That night I rented a house I got bad heart burn so was walking and a girl walking out of space approached head me said I was muy guapo so I said lets go. My casa was there but I didn't know where LOL so we grabbed a taxi and the driver went in circles then finally got to it. It us a door next to a sushi place. He demanded 20 mil pesos and looked like he might want to fight when I demanded 1 p. I said ah fuck it I'm sitting here arguing over a few dollars like a retard when I got a cute chuca ready to go. Banged her. Was nothing g special but not bad either. 200 k pesos then kicked her out. She wanted to stay all night I said no bye.
New report:
Today I walked to the infamous playa Hollywood I libe not far from it. I was going to ask for Tony but a guy named Jose got me and daid he would give me 2 chairs under umbrella right in front of the beach for 40 mil pesis. I said okay and bring me a pina colada for 30 mil pesos and a mucho sexy chica. He said should have to buy him a 10 mil peso beer for his help I said okay take 2 beers if you find me sexy chica.
This guy acted like he was calling someone. But later as I finished my pina colada he sat with nm drinking his beer and we pointed to a girl sitting by herself looking sexy asf nice bikini.
I said Jose go go go bring that one to me perfofor.
I was high asf on varios substances that I took as soon as I woke up for thus beach chair esapade. And had like 20 MG of Cialis in me. Hard asf looking at this chica. He brings her over and I'm hesitant at first but she speaks a little English and is sexy nice curves Not a complete stunner but very cute and long dark flowing hair and good curves, pretty face dancing non stop and singing which I like. She is Venezuelan. I like the vennies. My favorites.
However lots of Venezuelan turned vendors are harassing always as I tried to communicate. I snapped on one vendor and said. I said fir fucks sakes no means no now go away vamos! He circled us all angry looking while the girl with me talked to him. I gathered myself and told him sorry but nosotros gusta un solo. I think that means we want to be left alone haha my broken Spanish is terrible he still hung around. I said no no no no go go go tu vamos ahora! He begrudgingly gave up and walked away.
The vendors if you get a chair there. Holy crap. I am. Not polite anymore. The girl with me was very. Polite but I see them now if they force eye contact from me I just point to the distance and say tu vamos! No gusta! . If they do get a look I just glare at them because I effin hate them ruining the beach there. They are so effin rude. They see you trying to have private them and they just don't gaf will interrupt you.
A massage latey got all upset at me because I told her Vamos! Loudly she had a little knife cutting a mango telling me to buy it while giving me a bad look. I looked at her and said I do not owe you anything tu vanos ahora!
To my surprise she laughed and called me handsome then she gave me a hug and walked off. Wtf I thought.
Anyways I'm feeling a little wobnly the alcohol is magnifying these substances but fuck. It. I was looking good feeling good. Some pina colatas and beer and. I'm in a weird cross hybrid relaxed but also hyper state. In this state, I don't want randoms fucking with me. I just want to enjoy the gurl and the sound of waves coming in.
Anyways as the vendors started slowing down, I ordered 2 more pina coladas just because the water was nice and I felt really good so I told her lets swim now. She went into the water where we did lots of foreplay kissing. It feels like to me in my altered state like part if the beginning scene of that final fantasy 10 game on the PS2 where they are all on a beach kicking a ball. Anyways I'm feeling super euphoric. Like I'm in a dream.
In the water I grab her to me she starts kissing me and in pull her hand onto myself. She grabs it and won't let go. As the waves come and go. I told her lets go my home 200 k pesos 2 hours. She said okay she wants to stay with me.
We get to my house the security lets her in with not much hiccups surprisingly.
She wants latin music on my tv youtube I say no mi casa mi musica. We then work. Out a deal I choose then she chooses back and forth.
We broke out sone cervezas she is strip dancing to the music and then dancing and singing.
The cialis works really good because I was hard as a rock. I take her and start kissing her and slam her on the bed and say no condom biatchhhh you are mine now. She says no papi mas dinero por no condom mi mucho gusta tu. I say fuck it. Strap on a condom she starts deep throating I pull her off she assumes doggy position I say no you are going to fuck the way I want and flipped her over on her back and slid inside.
This seemed to really excite her. She started biting my face and kissing me very wildly and aggressively while I was looking over her and told me close to my right ear "I am your ****. Take me" in English.
I put my hand around her neck as to pin her down and told her to shut the fuck up. LOL this really turned her on it seemed. She started moaning while I was drilling her and after a few minutes started screaming and squirted everywhere. I had to replace the sheet.
But after this first time, we had a lot of fun together. She stayed like 4 hours not 2 and we fucked the entire time while dancing to music. The sex was amazing. 10 out of 10. She came a few more times. I went through 5 condoms in 4 hours. Cialis is amazing to overpower those substances and all the alcohol I consumed. There was like a 2 hour stretched where she was just on top of me while I was inside her just dancing on top of me while fucking me and occassionally licking my face like a wild animal as I told her to. It was amazing. To have passionate sex that long to good music. I still stayed hard after I came and would stay inside her then go more and more then rip it off for a new one periodically. She was very aggressively kissing me as well.
After a few hours I told her taxi because I had to meet some friends. She slowly got up started to change. She demanded me to walk her downstairs. But she was all touchy and kissing me in front if the reception in the lobby. I personally like to stay low key until at least in the elevator.
Anyways I had a great time. I never met the mythical Tony character. Another guy Jose who gave me a good deal for everything so I can't complain. Will definitely be going to Hollywood beach again. Hopefully the vendors will remember not to bother me ha. I know they are just trying to make a living but holy crap. Make sure you are in a patient mood if you decide to rent a chair here. Jose was good though and I ended up meeting the perfect style chica that I was in the mood today and only 200 k pesos. Plus 40 k pesos for the seat and then like 4 drinks I ordered in total.
4 hours of partying in my house and damn good sex. Not bad at all IMO. I spend more money than that in Olympica every time I go LOL.
Will be returning soon. Have to see my GF on Saturday.[/QUOTE]I've gotten some of my best chicas via Tony! He has most of the chicas contacts because he knows most of the tourists. But you do have to be firm with him.
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[QUOTE=Xpartan;2622391]I don't understand why mongers keep seeking out Tony. That Tony is the lowest and scummiest of the worst scum on planet Earth, [/QUOTE]Maybe because they know he speaks English and can get them chicks and they have heard his name before. Him being a great guy that probably will not rip them off may be low on their priority list.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2622391]What did you expect? You keep telling them "let's go," LOL. Of course, they have no idea what you're trying to say. You're just confusing the hell out of every tout who has a misfortune to stand in your way.[/quote]They must think he is nuts yelling at them while at the same time he is inviting them.
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Tony
I think using an "agent" like Tony has some advantages. First he bring the chicas to you so you don't have to waste time and effort shopping around. Second, presumably he has weeded out the thieves and poor performers because they are bad for his repeat business. Yes he makes some money on the deal but if he only is bringing vetted chicas to you its worth it and its not a lot of extra money. I have never used Tony but have used guys in Mexico, CTG and Cuba and they always brought me good girls. Comments?
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Tony is for lazy mongers
Tony is for the lazy.
I've said it many times Tony is for those who just go to Playa Hollywood and want to sit on their ass and have everything handed to them with zero effort. It doesn't matter if they are paying double or triple, they want to do the bare minimum but expect the top level everything. Its the same type of behavior that happened at Kings in Sosua or where they would sit at Playa Sosua under all the green Presendite umbrellas are and just want to point at chicas and have them come to them. Just as I learned the hard way about sitting under those green umbrellas with the owner putting the drinks chicas ordered on our bill without our knowledge is the same with Tony upcharging on the price for drinks at Playa Hollywood.
I don't get what so hard in going to look for a girl yourself when they are all around.
I've never used Tony, Jose or his son Allejandro chica services. ITs bad enough they constantly ask for a tip via buying them a drink and I never see them drinking it then when the bills comes its just numbers written on a napkin with no breakdown of what was ordered, thank goodness a chica put me on to when ever we ordered something to put a note in our phone so when the bill comes we know the exact number.
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Tonys cash crop is probably cocaine not chicas. I found the girls on the beech to be hardcore and would avoid them.
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Renting a place long term in Cartagena
Of all the cities I used [URL]seeking.com[/URL]/ SA, the one population wise I probably had the worst success in was Cartagena. For that reason, initially, I kind of ignored it, but I had been dating a woman that I met from the site for almost a year now. She was a government contractor and still being given Covid pay but that ended this month. She was in tears telling me that she had a new job but in a city without an airport 2 hours north of Bogota and was not going to be able to see me much anymore. I asked what the salary was as I wondered if I could cover it and braced to be high balled, and she told me her job was going to pay her $500 a month. I almost laughed when she told me that. That small amount was a relief.
I had been flying between Colombia and the USA to meet her or flying us both to Mexico for a while. We would meet every 2 weeks and the airfares and hotel costs were adding up. If I supported her, I could choose any city in Colombia to put her up in. It took me about 2 seconds to pick Cartagena. I am not sure if it is the sea air, beach, or lack of altitude, but I feel great there, tons better than Bogota.
So this was the month of the move, and we got in and scheduled a time to start to go see apartments. The first one was on Bocagrande, but it did not face the beach. We specified 3 bedroom so maybe there was an apartment available facing the sea. I don't know. Then I asked the price. Keep in mind that I had been seeing condos here priced at $200 k and had been paying $100 a night (or $3000 on a monthly basis). So she tells me the price, and I do the calculation and it is $450 a month. I was just stunned at how cheap it was.
We then drove in the direction of the airport. There was a nice apartment on the 2nd floor with a swimming pool and gym. $550 per month.
Then there was a high rise where the view of the airport was practically like it was in your backyard. I really liked that place. $650 per month.
Finally, we went to the island of Manga. There was one apartment on a high floor with stunning views. The complex had a workout area and three pools, and the apartment for some reason had four toilets. The tenants were happy with the complex and bragged about how nice it was. I knew that was the right place, and we both loved it. It was $700 a month.
So now came the time to sign the lease. The real estate agent was very busy, and I had to actually postpone my flight (it was free as American overbooked the flight to Miami) and met her to sign the papers the next day. My gal was jobless now and so we had to sign the lease together. The agent had never rented to an American before and we had to set up an escrow account and I had to put $5000 in it. I plan on being there hopefully 7 to 10 days per month.
The only reason I am mentioning the $ amount is so people know how much it costs if they are interested in looking into it not to get anyone's approval. I am sure the centro rats, guys fucking bare, and those snorting mountains of cocaine, are going to tell me what a risk this is. LOL. Please do not make me regret being honest. I could have said, "All they wanted was a one month deposit."
For transportation, we rented a scooter for an hour and I am looking to buy one for my gal soon. There is a place, near the great Persian restaurant Persepolis, that rents them. It was pretty cheap like $25 an hour and it is amazing how quickly in the scooter world things have changed from gas to electric. I am not sure what fuel will be easier for my gal to get but I hope we can go the electric route.
I set her up on the soft dirt of the beach, and she took 30 minutes on her own riding. We then went to the road, and she handled herself well there too. She was actually excited to have a scooter, and I think Cartagena is a great city to have a scooter in. We went everywhere on that thing with no issues.
I was actually looking into cities in Mexico where we could meet and so I am happy to get more of a home we can meet in that we can set up like we want. Thing is that I do not mind the flight to Cartagena given how it is broken up (two 2 and a half hour flights) and that the Miami airport is so smooth. I got through Customs there with Global Entry in less than a minute.
It has been surprising to me to see how many people monger in Cartagena given the better and cheaper options in Medellin and Bogota. I suspect it is because the people like the city and just deal with the prices. The problem with Cartagena long term was the prices. The hotels I liked were $100 to $150 a night versus $40 to $60 a night elsewhere, and the Airbnbs ran around $100 a night as well. Having an apartment is like getting better than Airbnb or the hotels for $25 to $30 a night, maybe $35 if you include all expenses.
These prices to me make Cartagena a very interesting place to retire or in my case to settle down in, and I suspect others will follow.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2622972]Tony is for the lazy.
I've said it many times Tony is for those who just go to Playa Hollywood and want to sit on their ass and have everything handed to them with zero effort. It doesn't matter if they are paying double or triple, they want to do the bare minimum but expect the top level everything. Its the same type of behavior that happened at Kings in Sosua or where they would sit at Playa Sosua under all the green Presendite umbrellas are and just want to point at chicas and have them come to them. Just as I learned the hard way about sitting under those green umbrellas with the owner putting the drinks chicas ordered on our bill without our knowledge is the same with Tony upcharging on the price for drinks at Playa Hollywood.
I don't get what so hard in going to look for a girl yourself when they are all around.
I've never used Tony, Jose or his son Allejandro chica services. ITs bad enough they constantly ask for a tip via buying them a drink and I never see them drinking it then when the bills comes its just numbers written on a napkin with no breakdown of what was ordered, thank goodness a chica put me on to when ever we ordered something to put a note in our phone so when the bill comes we know the exact number.[/QUOTE]Yup I'm lazy when I'm on vacation. Guilty as charged.
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Best chicas
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2622940]I think using an "agent" like Tony has some advantages. First he bring the chicas to you so you don't have to waste time and effort shopping around. Second, presumably he has weeded out the thieves and poor performers because they are bad for his repeat business. Yes he makes some money on the deal but if he only is bringing vetted chicas to you its worth it and its not a lot of extra money. I have never used Tony but have used guys in Mexico, CTG and Cuba and they always brought me good girls. Comments?[/QUOTE]I've gotten some gorgeous chicas with great performance from him over the years. He really has most chicas number and knows who is in town. I'll be back soon and he just sent me another drop dead gorgeous Chica! LOL. He's getting a good tip from me!
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How much does Tony tell why'all the girls cost? Is the price the same regardless of the girl? Or does the girl set the price and Tony gets his cut from the girl?
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[QUOTE=BrotherP;2623365]I've gotten some gorgeous chicas with great performance from him over the years. He really has most chicas number and knows who is in town. I'll be back soon and he just sent me another drop dead gorgeous Chica! LOL. He's getting a good tip from me![/QUOTE]It's one of those things. There are going to be some who think he's great and some who think he's terrible. And they're both right, at least from their viewpoint.
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Tony doesn't decide
[QUOTE=UnknownGuy;2623454]How much does Tony tell why'all the girls cost? Is the price the same regardless of the girl? Or does the girl set the price and Tony gets his cut from the girl?[/QUOTE]Tony doesn't set prices. He just knows all the chicas because they think he knows all the tourists.
Most of the better looking chicas are good with 300 k short term and 500 all night. Just my 2 cent.
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Spot on!
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2623513]It's one of those things. There are going to be some who think he's great and some who think he's terrible. And they're both right, at least from their viewpoint.[/QUOTE]Its the "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" effect. The same way where mongers on here think chicas are 9's an she looks like a malnourished child where we can see rib outlines and hip bones sticking out is the opposite of another monger who thinks ass / leg cellulite and a belly hanging over a chicas pants or stuffed in her pants where she pulls it up above her belly button is a 9 in their eyes.
If Tony is still around when I hit my 60's in 30 years maybe ill be using him too.
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Its all about kickbacks
[QUOTE=UnknownGuy;2623454]How much does Tony tell why'all the girls cost? Is the price the same regardless of the girl? Or does the girl set the price and Tony gets his cut from the girl?[/QUOTE]Everyone around that tourist area get something in return. Tony is not going to go out of his way to get a monger a chica unless he is getting something from her. The same way that annoying tout will follow a monger all night saying Space, and Delirium then proceed to follow the monger to the entrance of the club and make it look like he brought the monger there its because he's getting a kickback. Same with touts trying to rent boats, vets know we can negotiate for the boat ourselves by calling the guys directly but for the hassle of going back and forth with numbers its best to just pay the little extra and have a tout do it because it can get frustrating real fast.
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Very true!
[QUOTE=Nypher;2623637]Everyone around that tourist area get something in return. Tony is not going to go out of his way to get a monger a chica unless he is getting something from her. The same way that annoying tout will follow a monger all night saying Space, and Delirium then proceed to follow the monger to the entrance of the club and make it look like he brought the monger there its because he's getting a kickback. Same with touts trying to rent boats, vets know we can negotiate for the boat ourselves by calling the guys directly but for the hassle of going back and forth with numbers its best to just pay the little extra and have a tout do it because it can get frustrating real fast.[/QUOTE]I always give him a nice tip when I get my cabana because he's always sends me gorgeous hotties.
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New beach report
Not really much of a report. But I went to playa Hollywood again recently. Before I got a chance to use Tony the same tout as before saw me and snatched me up.
I ended up meeting the same 23 year old Venezuelan as before on my own. She saw me from a distance and approached me after I declined the tout's first girl. Sexy fun girl no tattoos looks like a young Kardashian. Ideally I want new girls every time though as am already dating someone but the girl does have something nice about her.
Constant pressure from the tout though to buy this and that the entire time and forcefully following us back off the beach to help get us a taxi kind of kill joyed the overall beach experience. As usual. Maybe his purpose was to figure out where I live? I dunno. Extremely annoying and overkill though.
Quite frankly the presence of these touts ruins the entire experience of Cartagena in general. Especially the longer you stay here I especially just love all the forced fistbumps and high fives followed by looks of utter contempt and rage on their faces as soon as you turn your head or act like you aren't looking for one second.
Also. Right after I had first sat down in my beach chair. A strange random looking guy on the beach. Looked like a Venezuelan refugee of some sort walked by me and gave me a throat slashing gesture before this at one point as I was sitting in my chair as if to threaten me. Not sure if was completely random or by design. Everyone knows me on Bocagrande beach now something that I do not like at all but I am a big beach person so hey.
Guys if you go to playa Hollywood the conclusion I have reached is you can have a much more pleasant time by skipping the touts altogether. Just look for groups of girls in skimpy bikinis and go talk to them yourselves. Invite them to go swimming then taxi them straight home.
Easy peasy IMO. Have just reached my limit on the amount of BS that one must tolerate when dealing with these shady characters. Will be the last time I use any of their "services. "
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[QUOTE=BrotherP;2623610]Tony doesn't set prices. He just knows all the chicas because they think he knows all the tourists.
Most of the better looking chicas are good with 300 k short term and 500 all night. Just my 2 cent.[/QUOTE]300 k short time is too much.
You should be paying no more than 200 k for 2 hours IMO.
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[QUOTE=BrotherP;2623610]Most of the better looking chicas are good with 300 k short term and 500 all night. Just my 2 cent.[/QUOTE]What happened in this forum and in Cartagena? Someone should try to stop this madness.
I would NEVER pay more than 200k for 1 hour (1 pop) and 300k only for the hottest found in a club, all dressed up sexy, including some nice time in the club. Girls from the beach should be 150k-200k.
Even understanding that the flow of post-covid gringos has caused major inflation in Cartagena, budgeting for 300k as base price for a girl from the beach is insane and will only lead this place to a place where to not go anymore, if not for the architecture and nice restaurants.
Just my 2 bucks!
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[QUOTE=BlackPage;2623722]What happened in this forum and in Cartagena?[/QUOTE]Nothing. Just turning it into Sosua, Panama, Costa Rica.
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[QUOTE=HighOnTravel;2623708]300 k short time is too much.
You should be paying no more than 200 k for 2 hours IMO.[/QUOTE]New guys will pay 300 k. Experienced hobbyists will pay 150 k-200 k.
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[QUOTE=Adinga;2623030]Tonys cash crop is probably cocaine not chicas. I found the girls on the beech to be hardcore and would avoid them.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. I was there last weekend and all of them hard core putas, not one I found cute and sexy and appealing.
No thanks. I went, I saw, I left.
The Tall Man.
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Tony, Tony Tony
[QUOTE=Nypher;2623637]Everyone around that tourist area get something in return. Tony is not going to go out of his way to get a monger a chica unless he is getting something from her. The same way that annoying tout will follow a monger all night saying Space, and Delirium then proceed to follow the monger to the entrance of the club and make it look like he brought the monger there its because he's getting a kickback. Same with touts trying to rent boats, vets know we can negotiate for the boat ourselves by calling the guys directly but for the hassle of going back and forth with numbers its best to just pay the little extra and have a tout do it because it can get frustrating real fast.[/QUOTE]I deal with Tony on my terms when at the beach. He knows me now well enough and knows to bring girls that are my type super cute, sexy, young and hot, with big tits and fat ass and he has done a super good job, for the tip I give him. I don't let him over charge me as I wrote in a past post. I ask the price of everything put it in my phone notes, now if as I seen in some reports he refuse to give you a price, tell him forget it I don't want it or I got off my ass go to the bar and get it from Anna. Now, the next time I ask Tony the price of something he is telling me pretty dam fast and I tell him okay and put it in my phone notes. When I get to the beach I first take a walk looking around for that day action hottie and I stop at the guys with the jet ski get a price and as they know I'm coming back with a hot girl that I will take for the ride with me because I plan on riding her later. I look around find what I want if she is not a boosey girl we jet ski and by the time we get back Here's TONY. We have a drink her 2-3 friends join us I get the phone numbers they have a beer and leave than me and the hot girl get ready to leave I pay Tony give him a little tip he gets me a cab and offered to pay for it but he knows my apartment is only a 3-4 min walk but he knows I will be back the next day. All in all I have no issues with Tony because I feel we know each other and I must give it to him because he has came up with some down right pretty ass sexy chica, I make the price I ' pay which is between me and the chica never him but he do know I'm going to try to get everything BBJ, Raw fuck and some ass and pay around 250 to 350 Kor maybe more. Don't let the beach do you, you do the beach have fun.
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Back to Cartagena
Coming back in January. My second trip. The first one was last year and it was fucking amazing. I am an older man so I like things easy. Never found a hottie on the beach but the Clock Tower and the triangle of pussy clubs served up some great pussy with no problems. My question is should I give Tony a try just for the experience. Can he really deliver a ten that will do anything. What do I tip him. Last year I stayed at a hotel on the beach for a couple of days and they rented the space on the beach. The rest of my time I stayed in the walled city. One more question. Which is easier, with the best selection of women. Cartagena or Bogota. Looking forward to buying my fellow mongers a beer.
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Each his own
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2623722]What happened in this forum and in Cartagena? Someone should try to stop this madness.
I would NEVER pay more than 200k for 1 hour (1 pop) and 300k only for the hottest found in a club, all dressed up sexy, including some nice time in the club. Girls from the beach should be 150k-200k.
Even understanding that the flow of post-covid gringos has caused major inflation in Cartagena, budgeting for 300k as base price for a girl from the beach is insane and will only lead this place to a place where to not go anymore, if not for the architecture and nice restaurants.
Just my 2 bucks![/QUOTE]I have some stunners on the team. Nothing I would want to low ball. I'm happy with my structure. If someone else can get something just as nice for cheaper, hey I salute.
I was just there in Sept. Some Chicas in delirium and Doce said no to 500 k. So wanted 600 k. So it appears things have changed. Peace ✌.
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[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2623841]No thanks. I went, I saw, I left.[/QUOTE]Less successful than Caesar, but my memory of the place is the same as yours.
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Traveling soon
Hello,
Thinking of visiting some where for beaches and mongering. Some questions.
1. I might stay at a nicer resort hotel. Would it be impossible to bring girls in? I wouldn't mind getting a second airbnb for like 50 a night.
2. I hear the beaches aren't that great for swimming because tourists get harassed all of the time.
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I'm constantly told 800 K
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2624075]I have some stunners on the team. Nothing I would want to low ball. I'm happy with my structure. If someone else can get something just as nice for cheaper, hey I salute.
I was just there in Sept. Some Chicas in delirium and Doce said no to 500 k. So wanted 600 k. So it appears things have changed. Peace.[/QUOTE]600 K TLN is good when starting out. The chicas who don't know me by face or by their friends social media always come at me with 800 K then I have to haggle them down to 500 K. The ones who know me won't even haggle or mention money because they know ill give them 400 K.
This conversation I was having with a chica on my last trip. We were in the disco, its ready to close due to curfew as its 2 am and she still starts out with 800 K.
I stick to my numbers, daytime 200 K night time no more than 500 K. If they want to haggle I have a phone full of numbers of other chicas who know me that are 30 minutes away where ill happily pay the 20 K round trip + 200 K /400 K for them to come see me and not have to haggle.
Its worse than trying to negotiate 1 hour on a jetski with the jetski guys.
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Tired of the clubs
[QUOTE=Nypher;2624131]600 K TLN is good when starting out. The chicas who don't know me by face or by their friends social media always come at me with 800 K then I have to haggle them down to 500 K. The ones who know me won't even haggle or mention money because they know ill give them 400 K.
This conversation I was having with a chica on my last trip. We were in the disco, its ready to close due to curfew as its 2 am and she still starts out with 800 K.
I stick to my numbers, daytime 200 K night time no more than 500 K. If they want to haggle I have a phone full of numbers of other chicas who know me that are 30 minutes away where ill happily pay the 20 K round trip + 200 K /400 K for them to come see me and not have to haggle.
Its worse than trying to negotiate 1 hour on a jetski with the jetski guys.[/QUOTE]I kinda tired of the clubs. My goal is to pull dates off whatsapp or the beach and avoid delirium and doce. I like latin music and my Spanish is decent. I can hold a conversation. There are plenty of other places to go.
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Visiting Cartagena
[QUOTE=Midnighter99;2624123]Hello,
Thinking of visiting some where for beaches and mongering. Some questions.
1. I might stay at a nicer resort hotel. Would it be impossible to bring girls in? I wouldn't mind getting a second airbnb for like 50 a night.
2. I hear the beaches aren't that great for swimming because tourists get harassed all of the time.[/QUOTE]I wish there was a way to edit my post!
3. I found some great Airbnb's and asked them about guest policies. They all said they do an ID check during the day and log the visitor's ID at night. Will the girls be okay with this?
4. Is the quality very different between Medellin and Cartagena?
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I think its a night VS day thing
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2624164]I kinda tired of the clubs. My goal is to pull dates off whatsapp or the beach and avoid delirium and doce. I like latin music and my Spanish is decent. I can hold a conversation. There are plenty of other places to go.[/QUOTE]At night, as soon as I enter Centro at night the asking prices skyrocket. But the same exact chica will be seen at Playa Hollywood and it will only be 200 K max pro una palvo. This is why I usually get them during the day, try them out and if I like them call them back for the night at 400 dos palvos minimum. But sometimes, just sometimes I something new and shiny at night, something I never seen and it looks like it can be a good fuck. Then comes the internal fighting of do I want something new or just go with something old, eventually new and shiny wins and time to haggle jajaja.
If I loose the negotiations at night I take something old and in the morning I bring them right back to the negotiating table and they don't even haggle its the price I say.
This is just my experience of day Vs night outcomes, but I could be hella wrong as I've only been doing CTG for 5 years.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2624131]This conversation I was having with a chica on my last trip. We were in the disco, its ready to close due to curfew as its 2 am and she still starts out with 800 K.[/QUOTE]Looks like she didn't give a damn about that pool either!
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CTG vs Medellin
[QUOTE=Midnighter99;2624165]I wish there was a way to edit my post!
3. I found some great Airbnb's and asked them about guest policies. They all said they do an ID check during the day and log the visitor's ID at night. Will the girls be okay with this?
4. Is the quality very different between Medellin and Cartagena?[/QUOTE]Yes Mde girls are usually Paisas and can pass of as Spanish girls from Europe. Plus MDE has girl friendly hotels compared to CTG but it lacks a beach.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2624218]Looks like she didn't give a damn about that pool either![/QUOTE][QUOTE=MrEnternational;2624218]Looks like she didn't give a damn about that pool either![/QUOTE]She sure didn't care about the pool that night!
I gave up and was already outside the disco, took another chica which was bad (her phone kept going off and she kept going to answer it, then she couldn't do doggie style because of pain and just wanted to do 1 position, on her back SMH.) I left before cops cleared the area. Its too exhausting to be negotiating at 2 am, it kills the mood and just brings frustration. Normally I would have been gone by midnight but the person I was with was being too damn picky with every girl inside and outside the club. But the following day she came around for 200 K no issue had a great session that cleared all the frustration she gave me that night, and the frustration I got from the chica I decided to take. She saw the pool after we finished and wanted to hang out and jump in it, told her tomorrow and showed her the door.
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Cartagena visit
I spent a Night There, visited a few clubs and la Torre:
Forgot the name of that one but there is a swimming pool in the middle. Girls were looking good, mostly friendly. Prices are around 350 k pesos, you could probably bargain.
Pleyboy, same beautiful line up with prices around 300 k.
There is another one a few dozens of meters from pleyboy, girls are physically less stunning (claimed 200 k pesos but probably not a so firm price) but very nice, friendly and some are more than willing to have a good time dancing, drinking and more. (Just have to enjoy your time, buy the drinks or the time in the room).
I have been taken to a club named nexus, seem a normal discoteca. There was a cover and plenty people in.
All this was on a Monday.
Girls at la Torre, I would say between around 20, possibly a bit more.
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Cartagena visit
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[QUOTE=Midnighter99;2624123]Hello,
Thinking of visiting some where for beaches and mongering. Some questions.
1. I might stay at a nicer resort hotel. Would it be impossible to bring girls in? I wouldn't mind getting a second airbnb for like 50 a night.
2. I hear the beaches aren't that great for swimming because tourists get harassed all of the time.
3. I found some great Airbnb's and asked them about guest policies. They all said they do an ID check during the day and log the visitor's ID at night. Will the girls be okay with this?
4. Is the quality very different between Medellin and Cartagena?[/QUOTE]1. Hotel rules with visitors change all the time which is why some mongers will only do Airbnb. Imagine being told you can only those on the initial reservation are allowed, or you are only allowed 1 visitor per day, or no visitors after 10 pm. If you think paying $50 a night for an Airbnb is good, then think again of the conditions.
2. No, the mainland beach isn't that good but there are better beaches and clearer water a boat ride away. Yes they will harass the fuck out of you especially once they see you sit and order food. Its like trying to stop pigeons from getting at bird food. Avoid Playa Hollywood if you can but if you want to go just for the experience and a good story to tell then by all means have at it.
3. the girls are use to it, and the pros know how to work around it when they don't have it. For your protection and keep you out of trouble, make sure they are of legal age and have their Cedula.
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Thank you!
[QUOTE=Nypher;2624479]2. No, the mainland beach isn't that good but there are better beaches and clearer water a boat ride away. Yes they will harass the fuck out of you especially once they see you sit and order food. Its like trying to stop pigeons from getting at bird food. Avoid Playa Hollywood if you can but if you want to go just for the experience and a good story to tell then by all means have at it.
3. the girls are use to it, and the pros know how to work around it when they don't have it. For your protection and keep you out of trouble, make sure they are of legal age and have their Cedula.[/QUOTE]Maybe I look ethnic enough to pass as a local and they'll leave me alone.
Looks like good places to look for girls are: La Dolce Vita and Prey Club. I'm also going to try [URL]seeking.com[/URL] and tinder. If the beaches are bad for daytime mongering, what are there better options?
Another question about safety, can I carry phone and wallet in my pockets like I normally do?
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[QUOTE=Midnighter99;2624558]Maybe I look ethnic enough to pass as a local and they'll leave me alone.
Looks like good places to look for girls are: La Dolce Vita and Prey Club. I'm also going to try [URL]seeking.com[/URL] and tinder. If the beaches are bad for daytime mongering, what are there better options?
Another question about safety, can I carry phone and wallet in my pockets like I normally do?[/QUOTE]In Cartagena you should be safe carring a phone and wallet but I would still carry them in my front pockets so as not to be easy prey for pickpockets. Most people say that skin / hair / eye color is not enough to pass for not being a gringo, they can tell my a lot more than that including your overall demeanor.
When I go to look for chicas at the beach, I do not go to "hang out" at the beach, I go to scout for chicas and do it while staying on the move. I do not sit down I do not not speak to any touts of any type. I come in from the El Laguito side of the beach (this is the side that faces more to the west, looking over at island Tierre Bomba) then I make my way around to the beach area that is facing more north, aka Playa Hollywood (on google maps ther is a marker at that far end called "Playa Las Velas" but I have always heard that whole area called Playa Hollywood) Then I start at the in front of the front row that is closest to the ocean and I make way down the row of people sitting on the beach and keep my eyes open looking for chicas sitting with other chica (s) or sitting alone. If these chicas make eye contact then I smile, if they smile back at me. The overweight old man gringo. Then I know they are probably working and unless I want to keep looking for something better I will wave them over to me and ask them "estás trabajando?" then if she says yes I start negotiating. Other wise I walk between the next rows and keep looking.
This is not a guarantee to keep all the pests away from you but I just literally shut out anyone who is not a hot chica, I do not make eye contact, not even a "No gracias". At least as a moving target you do not feel as much pressure from them if you are on the move. If I want a drink or anything else I go straight up to one of the kiosks and deal with no one else.
I realize most people want to go to the beach to relax and do "the beach" but this is my method for just going for the sole purpose to scout chicas.
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[QUOTE=Midnighter99;2624558]Maybe I look ethnic enough to pass as a local and they'll leave me alone.
Looks like good places to look for girls are: La Dolce Vita and Prey Club. I'm also going to try [URL]seeking.com[/URL] and tinder. If the beaches are bad for daytime mongering, what are there better options?
Another question about safety, can I carry phone and wallet in my pockets like I normally do?[/QUOTE]You may not pass for a local. My skin complexion is a bit lighter than the famous / infamous Tony so I can pass for being from San Andres or Baru but as Mojo Bandit says its more than looks. Its demeanor and especially speech, as soon a I open my mouth and speak Spanish, even though I can roll my are's they instantly know I'm not a local, its the words. An example is if you were in DR slang like "Chapidora" and "que lo que" lets them know you know what's up. But Colombia have its own slang words I have yet to grasp. Even my Panamanian friend who is perfectly fluent in Spanish was treated as a gringo once they heard him speak Spanish.
I don't know why you would take a taxi all the way to Pley Club which is basically a brothel in the hood when you can walk around Centro, el laguito, or Boca grande by the hotels after 8 pm girls like ants on cake you just have to weed out all the ones you don't want because some mongers can be too choosey. Too tall / short, too light / dark, too fat / shinny, then comes why does she do / don't do.
Cartagena is not dangerous. You can carry your phone and wallet just use your common sense such as if you would not do it where you are from then don't do it in once you clear customs.
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Been seeing lots of new stories of drugging and muggings coming out of Medellin lately. That got me wondering. How safe actually is Cartagena?
It feels way safer than Mexico for example to me yet maybe not quite as safe as Santo Domingo DR.
I never really leave Bocagrande or centro areas though. I did taxi to baru island to see the bird sanctuary a few days ago though. Loved it. Was very high which made the ride through the sticks more tolerable.
Also. Isn't there some special holiday going on lately? This should mean more pros here right?
I noticed some good looking talent on the beach today. However playa de Hollywood I don't really see that many girls lately which leads me to the question of. If a girl is on pkaya del Hollywood is she a pro by default? Sometimes I want to approach but not certain if they are or not. I screen for eye contact but don't get it sometimes.
Also on the beach far away walking distance of playa del Hollywood towards more in the centre of Boca grande towards the Hyatt I spotted two smoking out stunners in thong bikinis. One had her children with her though. But by default these should both be pros right? There are lots of Columbian tourists in that area so I always feel uncertain about it.
Also. Is there any other place to meet pros in the day time besides the beach? I can't really drink alcohol right due to bad stomach acid heart burn now so kind of just don't feel like going to the discos or bars and I'm usually more active in the day time in general.
Has anyone on here tried the legal otc drug here called Modanfinil? Its supposed to be better than coke without the negative stuff attached supposedly. I just bought a 2 week supply tonight at the pharmacy. Am trying tomorrow. Pretty excited about it.
Got an old dating app girl coming over tomorrow. Just a 7 or so though. Would prob much rather find a legit 9 for a short time experience tbh.
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Requirements
Hey,
This will be me and they boys 2nd time in Cartagena. Last time was early March of 2020 back when the world was normal. What are the requirements to get into the country. Coming from USA. All of us are vaccinated.
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Thanks for saving me the trip
[QUOTE=Nypher;2624683]I don't know why you would take a taxi all the way to Pley Club which is basically a brothel in the hood when you can walk around Centro, el laguito, or Boca grande by the hotels after 8 pm girls like ants on cake you just have to weed out all the ones you don't want because some mongers can be too choosey. Too tall / short, too light / dark, too fat / shinny, then comes why does she do / don't do.
Cartagena is not dangerous. You can carry your phone and wallet just use your common sense such as if you would not do it where you are from then don't do it in once you clear customs.[/QUOTE]I'm staying in Bocagrande and for some reason I thought the area was advertised as anti escort. Obviously I am wrong.
My Spanish is limited to a few basic phrases and google translate. What words to you use to figure out what she does and doesn't do? Is there a Spanish menu or they understand terms like BBBJ and DFK.
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[QUOTE=Midnighter99;2624558]Maybe I look ethnic enough to pass as a local and they'll leave me alone.
Looks like good places to look for girls are: La Dolce Vita and Prey Club. I'm also going to try [URL]seeking.com[/URL] and tinder. If the beaches are bad for daytime mongering, what are there better options?
Another question about safety, can I carry phone and wallet in my pockets like I normally do?[/QUOTE]Yes on the phone and wallet. Seeking was a disappointment for me there but maybe it is better now. Medellin and Bogota were 100 X better for seeking.
My girl is Colombian, and the touts still mess with her. With most, she or I just say no thank you and they leave us be. I have had much, much worse in Jamaica, but the thing these guys do that is annoying is they hit you in the arm with their shit or point at you and touch you. It's harmless but it bugs me.
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[QUOTE=BAnc4;2624919]Hey,
This will be me and they boys 2nd time in Cartagena. Last time was early March of 2020 back when the world was normal. What are the requirements to get into the country. Coming from USA. All of us are vaccinated.[/QUOTE]Did you book your ticket yet?
The information is given to you in writing from the airline you booked with, but incase you missed that email it is also on Colombia Embassy site.
[URL]https://co.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/[/URL]
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Terrible okaycupid experience today
Last night I decided to start chatting up okay cupid girls again. Was chatting with this girl seemed to have a very pretty face and figure. I would rate her a solid 8. 5 on looks.
So she went radio silent then messaged me today saying she wanted to come over and she is massage girl surprise surprise. This is my first time ever agreeing to meet a pro from online.
She wanted 300 k pesos for a special "deal" of 3 hours. I told her no 200 k for 2 and she agreed.
She comes over and gets pit of the taxi and I immediately notice her face is a bit older looking, she is short and somewhat squatty looking in stature. Her voice sounds like she has been chain smoking for 10 hours straight. A 5 at absolute best. I guess you could argue her face is somewhat pretty. Not ugly just nothing close to what I was wanting.
Before I can change my mind the front door man is already checking her in by ID and at this point I am not wanting to make a scene as there is a huge group of normal Colombian tourists behind me waiting to check out. I hear her speaking in Spanish sounding and looking like an obvious pro. Proudly proclaiming she us Columbian not Venezuelan like the the door guy is checking for. My god. Between my recent legal speed in my system and the green my internal dialogue and paranoia is running amuck.
They all visibly turn to look at me to see the lucky winner who is paying for this prize.
The cringe is extremely high and I am paying 200 pesos for this horse shit to make matters x10 worse.
I try to think positive and say okay let her give me a massage first maybe ill get turned on because I had taken 10 MG of Cialis 3 hours prior.
She gets into my room and is sounding all coughing not attractive at all she says it was because she was up late last night partying and doing coke / drinking and not covid. Ffs I think.
She proceeds to start giving me a massage then take off her clothes and surprisingly her body is not totally terrible. Def had that squatty stump shaped going on though. I like my women petite in the right places with killer curves.
Anyways this girl won't stop talking and her voice is just VERY unattractive.
My Cialis manages to work miracles though and I go hard. Somehow someway. She gets on me starts riding. Just as I can managed to pretend she is another girl I was looking at online and get into it she starts in her screetchy ass voice and having to stop to lotion up her dried up self. I start to instantly go soft.
Then she starts hooking up lougies. Yes. Lougies. Disgusting sounding flegm. But she swallows instead of spitting it out to try and not be totally disgusting.
Holy crap. It doesn't matter. It is beyond disgusting. Everything with her is terrible. I throw her off of me and yell stop! Me mucho no gusta.
Then she acts all offended saying what you say me no sexy or some shit. I reach up into my closet and pull out 200 k pesos just wanting her instantly out of my sight in that moment say there now please leave tu vas ahora perforfor.
She starts complaining in Spanish then I tell her tu es muy no sexy porque and then start mocking her coughing.
I then translate in Spanish so I can go in on her in more detail on my phone. I tell her it was simply disgusting of her to go perform this kind of service while having this coughing sensation.
She then starts saying she will come over for free tomorrow to which I say oh hell no. No gusta no gusta.
Then she starts yelling ignoring my point completely saying she doesn't have covid and she was up all the night partying. And now the kicker. She pulls out a video on her phone from Nexxus club of her drinking and dancing as proof of her partying as if I cared and then for some unexplained reason presents me a video of a gringo banging her friend who is actually gasp attractive looking unlike her while she video taped the affair obviously a 3 some to which I instantly want to start vomiting as I imagine this naked gringo sharing what had just had the sheer misfortune of partaking in. Yeah we all know the deal when we do this shit but to be shown it is another thing altogether.
She starts talking and I just yell get out get out go go go. Bye bye and pull her up to my front door just literally pushed this disgusting little hobgoblin out slamming the door in her face hearing her shriek and yell a few times before finally retreating to the elevator.
Disgusting experience altogether. Will never mess with onlyline p2 p again. Watch out for this little gremlin on columbiancupid. Her photos are very well shopped. Should have video chatted or even simply voice chatted first. Probably instant kharma for cheating on my GF.
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Common words go a long way
[QUOTE=Midnighter99;2624961]I'm staying in Bocagrande and for some reason I thought the area was advertised as anti escort. Obviously I am wrong.
My Spanish is limited to a few basic phrases and google translate. What words to you use to figure out what she does and doesn't do? Is there a Spanish menu or they understand terms like BBBJ and DFK.[/QUOTE]I don't know DKF because I don't be kissing those girls in their mouth but for BBBJ it would be "Oral sin condom" "sin" means without "con" means with.
My advice to you is to start practicing. Use Google translate to learn how to pronounce the words in Spanish. Learn basic things that you would normally do in your daily routine at home so when you arrive you can get some familiarity. Once you clear customs key words are "suitcase / maleta, taxi / taxi, tip / propina". If you like a certain foods learn how to say them in Spanish "eggs, bacon, sausage, bread, juice, coffee, milk, sugar". Learn how to say "more / mas, less / minos, chair / silla, table / mesa, tomorrow / manana, later / mas tarde, etc" then the most important ones is knowing how to ask where the bathroom is, asking for help, medicine and pharmacy is pretty much the same in both languages Pharamica / medicina. More important words "who, what, where, when, why" these will be essential when someone talk to you as you can then fill in the gap and guess what they are saying or asking especially when they ask "donde esta tu hotel".
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Ahem.
You lost me at "lougies".
[QUOTE=HighOnTravel;2625061]Last night I decided to start chatting up okay cupid girls again. Was chatting with this girl seemed to have a very pretty face and figure. I would rate her a solid 8. 5 on looks.
So she went radio silent then messaged me today saying she wanted to come over and she is massage girl surprise surprise. This is my first time ever agreeing to meet a pro from online.
She wanted 300 k pesos for a special "deal" of 3 hours. I told her no 200 k for 2 and she agreed.
She comes over and gets pit of the taxi and I immediately notice her face is a bit older looking, she is short and somewhat squatty looking in stature. Her voice sounds like she has been chain smoking for 10 hours straight. A 5 at absolute best. I guess you could argue her face is somewhat pretty. Not ugly just nothing close to what I was wanting.
Before I can change my mind the front door man is already checking her in by ID and at this point I am not wanting to make a scene as there is a huge group of normal Colombian tourists behind me waiting to check out. I hear her speaking in Spanish sounding and looking like an obvious pro. Proudly proclaiming she us Columbian not Venezuelan like the the door guy is checking for. My god. Between my recent legal speed in my system and the green my internal dialogue and paranoia is running amuck.
They all visibly turn to look at me to see the lucky winner who is paying for this prize.
The cringe is extremely high and I am paying 200 pesos for this horse shit to make matters x10 worse.
I try to think positive and say okay let her give me a massage first maybe ill get turned on because I had taken 10 MG of Cialis 3 hours prior.
She gets into my room and is sounding all coughing not attractive at all she says it was because she was up late last night partying and doing coke / drinking and not covid. Ffs I think.
She proceeds to start giving me a massage then take off her clothes and surprisingly her body is not totally terrible. Def had that squatty stump shaped going on though. I like my women petite in the right places with killer curves.
Anyways this girl won't stop talking and her voice is just VERY unattractive.
My Cialis manages to work miracles though and I go hard. Somehow someway. She gets on me starts riding. Just as I can managed to pretend she is another girl I was looking at online and get into it she starts in her screetchy ass voice and having to stop to lotion up her dried up self. I start to instantly go soft.
Then she starts hooking up lougies. Yes. Lougies. Disgusting sounding flegm. But she swallows instead of spitting it out to try and not be totally disgusting.
Holy crap. It doesn't matter. It is beyond disgusting. Everything with her is terrible. I throw her off of me and yell stop! Me mucho no gusta.
Then she acts all offended saying what you say me no sexy or some shit. I reach up into my closet and pull out 200 k pesos just wanting her instantly out of my sight in that moment say there now please leave tu vas ahora perforfor.
She starts complaining in Spanish then I tell her tu es muy no sexy porque and then start mocking her coughing.
I then translate in Spanish so I can go in on her in more detail on my phone. I tell her it was simply disgusting of her to go perform this kind of service while having this coughing sensation.
She then starts saying she will come over for free tomorrow to which I say oh hell no. No gusta no gusta.
Then she starts yelling ignoring my point completely saying she doesn't have covid and she was up all the night partying. And now the kicker. She pulls out a video on her phone from Nexxus club of her drinking and dancing as proof of her partying as if I cared and then for some unexplained reason presents me a video of a gringo banging her friend who is actually gasp attractive looking unlike her while she video taped the affair obviously a 3 some to which I instantly want to start vomiting as I imagine this naked gringo sharing what had just had the sheer misfortune of partaking in. Yeah we all know the deal when we do this shit but to be shown it is another thing altogether.
She starts talking and I just yell get out get out go go go. Bye bye and pull her up to my front door just literally pushed this disgusting little hobgoblin out slamming the door in her face hearing her shriek and yell a few times before finally retreating to the elevator.
Disgusting experience altogether. Will never mess with onlyline p2 p again. Watch out for this little gremlin on columbiancupid. Her photos are very well shopped. Should have video chatted or even simply voice chatted first. Probably instant kharma for cheating on my GF.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Tomasb;2625158]You lost me at "lougies".[/QUOTE]She was coughing up phlegm.
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Strip clubs in CTG
Been to Medellin a few times but this is the first time I'll be heading to Cartagena. I read a lot about pickup bars / clubs / clock tower, and Playa Hollywood for daytime action. But what about strip climbs like Isis and Pley Club? I saw them online but don't see anything on the forums about them. Are they any good? I find the ones in Medellin to be enjoyable.
Also, are there any MP's in Cartagena like in Medellin? Or is Playa Hollywood the only daytime scene?
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2625162]She was coughing up phlegm.[/QUOTE]It was pretty unattractive to say the least.
Lets put it this way. If I went out in centro I would not take one glance at her. Way worse than what you see even with all the left over talent standing around idly in clocktower area at the end of the night.
Here is the thing. I can't pull from centro because of my Airbnb visitor hours and and am done dealing with the touts at playa del Hollywood. Not wasting any more money in extra hotels as well and tinder has my phone device printed. Every new phone number I get on my phone that account gets swiftly banned.
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HighOnTravel
[QUOTE=HighOnTravel;2624726]
Has anyone on here tried the legal otc drug here called Modanfinil? Its supposed to be better than coke without the negative stuff attached supposedly. I just bought a 2 week supply tonight at the pharmacy. Am trying tomorrow. Pretty excited about it.
[/QUOTE]Hey HOT, if you can name some of the available OTC meds that one might recreationally consume in Colombia, I'd appreciate it. Just the names are fine, I can read more about it from there. Thanks, and I'm enjoying your reports. -Lugnut.
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[QUOTE=Lugnut;2625389]Hey HOT, if you can name some of the available OTC meds that one might recreationally consume in Colombia, I'd appreciate it. Just the names are fine, I can read more about it from there. Thanks, and I'm enjoying your reports. -Lugnut.[/QUOTE]Sure. Hydrocodone. Oxycodone. These two are sold in lical generic brands you can google.
Lyrica pregrabalin. That one will really fuck you up if you have no tolerance. Anything over 1200 MG will make you drunk and very euphoric. Maybe start lower if you never did before try 650 MG first. Then gradually add. Its an amazing combo with even some low grade bud. It amplifies alcohol big time as well. And you can get its little brother gapapentin. Lyrica much funner though IMO.
You can also get Xanax but you might need to wait an hour while the pharmacy gets their runners on it. I haven't tried valium. I love valium for hangovers.
Modanfil def geeks you up all day. It wasn't really euphoric for me though.
Hmmm tomorrow I'm going to see what this good little small pharmacy can do in regards to muscle relaxers. I would love some soma. Used to get that in Mexico all the time.
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[QUOTE=HighOnTravel;2625481]Sure. Hydrocodone. Oxycodone. These two are sold in lical generic brands you can google.
Lyrica pregrabalin. That one will really fuck you up if you have no tolerance. Anything over 1200 MG will make you drunk and very euphoric. Maybe start lower if you never did before try 650 MG first. Then gradually add. Its an amazing combo with even some low grade bud. It amplifies alcohol big time as well. And you can get its little brother gapapentin. Lyrica much funner though IMO.
You can also get Xanax but you might need to wait an hour while the pharmacy gets their runners on it. I haven't tried valium. I love valium for hangovers.
Modanfil def geeks you up all day. It wasn't really euphoric for me though.
Hmmm tomorrow I'm going to see what this good little small pharmacy can do in regards to muscle relaxers. I would love some soma. Used to get that in Mexico all the time.[/QUOTE]Found some tramadol last night right after this post. I am sure I can find some soma as well. I don't really drink nearly as much as I used to because I get terrible heartburn / stomach acid attacks so these otc meds are great when combined with bud. Just rotate each one on and off to avoid addiction.
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Airbnb
Stumbling into Cartagena for the first time, Dec 6-10.
I took advice here and asked specifically about multiple girls when requesting for an Airbnb. I got, "Se aceptan visitas de amigas sin problemas de mi parte, en el edificio tienen algunas restricciones, deben ser amigas, tenga cuidado es mi recomendación." Seems pretty vague; can anyone let me know what this means in reality?
Also, any tips for negotiating # of 'pulgas'?
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Have a back up plan
[QUOTE=Implying1;2626212]Stumbling into Cartagena for the first time, Dec 6-10.
I took advice here and asked specifically about multiple girls when requesting for an Airbnb. I got, "Se aceptan visitas de amigas sin problemas de mi parte, en el edificio tienen algunas restricciones, deben ser amigas, tenga cuidado es mi recomendacin." Seems pretty vague; can anyone let me know what this means in reality?
Also, any tips for negotiating # of 'pulgas'?[/QUOTE]Congrats on doing your homework to get the best out of your trip! You have completed the most important step, securing a guest friendly place close to all action.
Now as for the Spanish translation. They basically said they are ok with it but building management may not be OK with it.
To elaborate. The owner can say 1 thing but building management can say another and security can say something entirely different. This is why when I travel our number 1 rule is if we can avoid it, to never stay in condos or buildings with security as it eliminates 90% of the bullshit of last minute visitor rules. We strictly go only for apartments. These rules can be anywhere from:
Only 1 visitor per day allowed.
Visitors only allowed between 9 am - 9 pm.
No visitors allowed after 10 pm.
Visitors are not allowed to dawn on the property.
Visitors are not allowed to use building amenities (pool, gym, etc).
Guest must pay up to 15 mil COP per visitor entering the property (This can get annoying real fast depending on how many you plan on seeing).
All guests entering must check in with ID (This can fuck you over with the Venezuelan chicas because some of them are there illegally and don't have a Cedula or Passport).
You can always chance it but I strongly suggest you find another location where you have a solid answer pertaining to visitors.
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[QUOTE=Implying1;2626212]Stumbling into Cartagena for the first time, Dec 6-10.
I took advice here and asked specifically about multiple girls when requesting for an Airbnb. I got, "Se aceptan visitas de amigas sin problemas de mi parte, en el edificio tienen algunas restricciones, deben ser amigas, tenga cuidado es mi recomendacin." Seems pretty vague; can anyone let me know what this means in reality?
Also, any tips for negotiating # of 'pulgas'?[/QUOTE]I'm hoping you mean number of polvos. You don't want chicas with pulgas (fleas).
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[QUOTE=Implying1;2626212]Stumbling into Cartagena for the first time, Dec 6-10.
I took advice here and asked specifically about multiple girls when requesting for an Airbnb. I got, "Se aceptan visitas de amigas sin problemas de mi parte, en el edificio tienen algunas restricciones, deben ser amigas, tenga cuidado es mi recomendacin." Seems pretty vague; can anyone let me know what this means in reality?
Also, any tips for negotiating # of 'pulgas'?[/QUOTE]It means that if any other resident of the building or the building administrator takes issue with you or the putas you bring, nobody will back you up. If you stay here, don't exit or arrive with a chica; allow her to come all the way up to the room. To successfully do that, tip the doorman and ask him what you need to do to have a girl over without problems.
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[QUOTE=Implying1;2626212]Stumbling into Cartagena for the first time, Dec 6-10.
I took advice here and asked specifically about multiple girls when requesting for an Airbnb. I got, "Se aceptan visitas de amigas sin problemas de mi parte, en el edificio tienen algunas restricciones, deben ser amigas, tenga cuidado es mi recomendacin." Seems pretty vague; can anyone let me know what this means in reality?
Also, any tips for negotiating # of 'pulgas'?[/QUOTE]If you want a stress free trip, I would keep searching for a place that answers that the building allows chicas in without any problems.
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[QUOTE=Bobbo123;2625205]Been to Medellin a few times but this is the first time I'll be heading to Cartagena. I read a lot about pickup bars / clubs / clock tower, and Playa Hollywood for daytime action. But what about strip climbs like Isis and Pley Club? I saw them online but don't see anything on the forums about them. Are they any good? I find the ones in Medellin to be enjoyable.
Also, are there any MP's in Cartagena like in Medellin? Or is Playa Hollywood the only daytime scene?
Thanks![/QUOTE]I went to Paradiso Marino, which is considered one of the better clubs. I thought it was great, lot's of hot girls! The cost was 200 mil pesos per half hour. So, I did an hour for 400 mil. Beautiful 18 year old. Bare for 50 k extra. It is a 20 min + cab ride from Laguito, and not in the greatest neighborhood. So the fare is a lot more than just 10 k to El Centro. At the end of the day, a little more expensive, but nice to have a parade of girls to choose from. One more thing, they keep the rooms too hot, so it's hard to go for extended time.
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Broke up with my GF here last night
She really pissed me off. Long story. So I told her to go home. I'm not feeling all this anymore. Anyways got very drunk. Lots of lyrica and hydrocone in my system.
So each drink hot 5 time harder initially. Ordered 3 pina colodas with extra liquor shots at clocktower pub. Then drank a few bers each one hitting my like a tank. I stumbled out of pub tripping up. Was seeing double a bit.
I moved to this bar called Atlanta. A real shit hole. But I got a hookah and started smoking hookah and drinking.
Suddenly my drunkenness turned to clarity I think the lyrica was leaving my system finally. I started dancing with some girl. Her friend hated me and even screamed at me to leave one point. Pyscho *****. I left.
I went next the door to Delirium. Was pretty fun people were dancing. I was probably acting a fool. Not much memory of that tine in there tbh. No girls I wanted that I can remember. I guess I was very drunk there. Had fun and left. No good girls though.
Outside some fucking guy kept trying to sell me coke very aggressively. I noticed right behind us there were a lot of police. It smelled like a set up. I told him no way. He said we can go up into space to do it. I had alarm bells going off. I said no.
I walked into space and this guy follows me up in there. A real sinister looking individual. Bad intentions. Glaring at me he said said give me 50,000 fir wasting my time. I said what? He said if you don't give me 50,000 I will cone back and next time I will be forced to bad things.
He seemed serious. So I said wow you are threatening me. I said no. I never asked for anything so leave ne the fuck alone. You can find me walking in the street after this. This mother fucker glared at me so hard I thought he was going to pull out a shank or knife right there. Instead he just evil eyed me like a stare down and nodded his head as if to say yes. Then he walked down out of there. These kind of people seriously ruin this place fir me. But anyways. Moving on.
I walk into space hyper alert with a new found triple wind of sobriety and order 3 Colombian beers and chug the first one. Walk around with my other 2. I scout out the talent while thinking about my GF and that sketchy guy.
I see a fucking legit stunner dancing and immediately grab her. Gorgeous girl. We drink a few and I said I'm taking you home. She says $100 for 1 hour. Still upset ror my GF I say wtf lets go.
We grab a taxi. We get back to my room. This ***** who was all over me at the club is acting stingy / robotic at my place. This is a night where I'm just taking L after L I think LOL. And fuck. I hadn't taken cialus in 3 days and it showed. The alcohol and Lyrica gave me ed. So I couldn't even fuck her. So I don't even know what we did. I just remember her saying some shit about she wanted to go to the beach together. My memory of that and my time at Delirium us wiped completely. Weird. I remember everything else perfectly.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2626304]I'm hoping you mean number of polvos. You don't want chicas with pulgas (fleas).[/QUOTE]You won the "Best Post of the Month" Prize (but you should share it with the OP, who served it to you on a silver plate).
I am trying to imagine some dude attempting to negotiate his dream night at Plaza Reloy, surrounded by a circle of girls, who look perplexed to the very least because he insists requesting "Quiero muchas pulgas" (said with strong American accent).
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2021 Trip Report
Missed my connection flying down and arrived 7 hours late. Maybe there was a silver lining, because I met two stunners in the elevator right when I arrived. I ended up doing about half of my sessions for the week with them. It was too convenient; they were staying just one floor above me. Also, the service was good, they were nice girls, and we had fun hanging out. 600 k for a quickie threesome and 1 million for toda la noche for the pair. Pics below. They work at Delirium every night if anyone is interested in finding them. My guess is that they ask for more at Delirium. One night I checked out La Dolce Vida. I wasn't too impressed. I'm not a drinker and wasn't interested in hanging out buying girls drinks, which is what they seemed to want to do before leaving for a cita. I picked up 4 different Vennies out on the street around LDV. One for 600 toda la noche, one for 250 for a quickie, one for 350 two shots, and one for 400 bare come inside (her pic is below). I never negotiated too hard, as some might point out. Went to Paradiso Marino one night (separate post below). Loved staying in Laguito. I liked the beach there. Never picked up girls on Holywood beach, just one thing I never got around to. There were girls on the street in Laguito, but never partook. Really enjoyed the old city. It was my first time in Cartagena. Also, played golf a few times at Karibana and highly recommend. 520 k per round. Went to Rosario Island one day. It was ok, a little pricey travelling with my 2 chicas. Stayed in a Juan Ventura property. It was slightly run down, but I have no complaints and would recommend. Here is his web site.
[URL]http://www.venpro.net/fotosapartamentos/[/URL]
All in all, I had a great first trip to Cartagena. I will definitely be back, but I'm not sure where I'm going next year. I've done Medellin, Cartagena, San Jose, and Sosua twice. Maybe Cali or Bogota is next. Wish it was easier to go to Cuba as an American.
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Gorgeous Girls!
[QUOTE=Vern2020;2626702]Missed my connection flying down and arrived 7 hours late. Maybe there was a silver lining, because I met two stunners in the elevator right when I arrived. I ended up doing about half of my sessions for the week with them. It was too convenient; they were staying just one floor above me. Also, the service was good, they were nice girls, and we had fun hanging out. 600 k for a quickie threesome and 1 million for toda la noche for the pair. Pics below. They work at Delirium every night if anyone is interested in finding them. My guess is that they ask for more at Delirium. One night I checked out La Dolce Vida. I wasn't too impressed. I'm not a drinker and wasn't interested in hanging out buying girls drinks, which is what they seemed to want to do before leaving for a cita. I picked up 4 different Vennies out on the street around LDV. One for 600 toda la noche, one for 250 for a quickie, one for 350 two shots, and one for 400 bare come inside (her pic is below). I never negotiated too hard, as some might point out. Went to Paradiso Marino one night (separate post below). Loved staying in Laguito. I liked the beach there. Never picked up girls on Holywood beach, just one thing I never got around to. There were girls on the street in Laguito, but never partook. Really enjoyed the old city. It was my first time in Cartagena. Also, played golf a few times at Karibana and highly recommend. 520 k per round. Went to Rosario Island one day. It was ok, a little pricey travelling with my 2 chicas. Stayed in a Juan Ventura property. It was slightly run down, but I have no complaints and would recommend. Here is his web site.[/QUOTE]I would've kept them probably the whole trip, nicely done!
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Fear and Loathing in Cartagena
[QUOTE=HighOnTravel;2626606]She really pissed me off. Long story. So I told her to go home. I'm not feeling all this anymore. Anyways got very drunk. Lots of lyrica and hydrocone in my system.
So each drink hot 5 time harder initially. Ordered 3 pina colodas with extra liquor shots at clocktower pub. Then drank a few bers each one hitting my like a tank. I stumbled out of pub tripping up. Was seeing double a bit.
.[/QUOTE]I really do enjoy reading your posts. If this posts narrative had a title it should be Fear and Loathing in Cartagena. If you are too young to get the reference its a reference to the movie Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas starring Johnny Depp and Benicio del Toro based on writer Hunter Thompsons and a drug and alcohol fueled stay in Las Vegas. And I have had my share of such adventures.
Keep having fun and be careful. Sounds like the locals are just straight up punks.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOmtVFQ3WF8[/URL]
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Fear and Loathing
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2627090]I really do enjoy reading your posts. If this posts narrative had a title it should be Fear and Loathing in Cartagena. If you are too young to get the reference its a reference to the movie Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas starring Johnny Depp and Benicio del Toro based on writer Hunter Thompsons and a drug and alcohol fueled stay in Las Vegas. And I have had my share of such adventures.
Keep having fun and be careful. Sounds like the locals are just straight up punks.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOmtVFQ3WF8[/URL].[/QUOTE]Funny to read this since I read the book during downtime on my first trip to Colombia in '73. Way too many drugs for him then and for too many guys now especially when in foreign territory.
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First Time
Thinking of heading to Cartagena, will be first time. Can anyone give me their opinion on is this the best place to come for the hobby or Medellin? Other option will be Santo Domingo, DR.
Thank you in advance.
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Ermita Marriott
Recently stayed at the Ermita Hotel which is about a 5 min walk to the walled city or a 10 k cab ride. The hotel had all the amenities you could ask for. The Gym had everything you could need for a good workout I. E Treadmills, free weights, smith machine, yoga mats, & bicycle. The best part was security was very welcoming to our guests. We were a party of 5 and each night we paraded 5-6 women after hours and they let them right in after taking their info down. The security even wanted to hook me up with a Chica he knew. I'm pretty sure he would have taken a cut of whatever was given. They even helped order pizza / wings around 3 am. Overall the staff is very accommodating.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2627090]I really do enjoy reading your posts. If this posts narrative had a title it should be Fear and Loathing in Cartagena. If you are too young to get the reference its a reference to the movie Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas starring Johnny Depp and Benicio del Toro based on writer Hunter Thompsons and a drug and alcohol fueled stay in Las Vegas. And I have had my share of such adventures.
Keep having fun and be careful. Sounds like the locals are just straight up punks.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOmtVFQ3WF8[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks! Hunter Thompson is a legend. Yeah, I was surprised that happened in centro. Is usually pretty safe there.
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[QUOTE=MasterOfNone;2627610]Thinking of heading to Cartagena, will be first time. Can anyone give me their opinion on is this the best place to come for the hobby or Medellin? Other option will be Santo Domingo, DR.
Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]Any opinion isn't going to help you much. However, for most people, I don't believe they would rank Santo Domingo over Cartagena or Medellin.
Other than cheap sex, what are you looking for? What's your style for pursuing this hobby? Are you a morning, afternoon, evening or late night guy? What climate suits you? How's your Spanish? Are you going low budget, or will you be partying like a rockstar?
Put together a list of things which matter to you and then figure out which location best meets each item.
If you read the threads you will find plenty of people who made the decision based on the opinions of others, and didn't enjoy themselves. When you come up with specific questions, that's when this place can give good answers.
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[QUOTE=MasterOfNone;2627610]Thinking of heading to Cartagena, will be first time. Can anyone give me their opinion on is this the best place to come for the hobby or Medellin? Other option will be Santo Domingo, DR.
Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]First time, you should head to the best place of your 3 options listed. That is Medellin hands down!
I've been to all 3 of your options. Stick to Colombia, and Colombian chicas! I do, Luvchicas.
Much has been written about Colombia, read up.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2627953]
Other than cheap sex, what are you looking for? What's your style for pursuing this hobby? Are you a morning, afternoon, evening or late night guy? What climate suits you? How's your Spanish? Are you going low budget, or will you be partying like a rockstar?
Put together a list of things which matter to you and then figure out which location best meets each item.
If you read the threads you will find plenty of people who made the decision based on the opinions of others, and didn't enjoy themselves. When you come up with specific questions, that's when this place can give good answers.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MasterOfNone;2627610]Thinking of heading to Cartagena, will be first time. Can anyone give me their opinion on is this the best place to come for the hobby or Medellin? Other option will be Santo Domingo, DR.
Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]Here is my opinion. Or actually its probably going to be some rambling musing on the subject -.
If there was no prostitutes in Colombia but someone offered me a free vacation in either Cartagena or Medellin. I am going to choose Cartagena. If I was only going to prostitutes and both cities were the same then of course I would choose Medellin. A comparison of the number of reports from each city and you see that most mongers choose Medellin.
Even though Cartagena does not have a nice beach, I still enjoy getting an apartment that has a balcony overlooking the ocean. I am also a big fan old shit so I like the old city and the narrow streets that wander through the colonial spanish architecture and visiting Cafe del Mar to watch the sun set over the ocean from a hundreds year old battlement. I like the festive atmosphere of some of the popular plazas like Domingo Plaza in the old city or Plaza Trinidad in Getsemani.
The difference is that if I were strictly going for prostitutes then Cartagena girls are five times more expensive by a than the street walkers in Centro area of Medellin. Even though I mostly just do FB chicas and they cost more than the SWs, I usually get more time for my money that the average girl gives for the same money in Cartagena. That goes without saying that there is in my opinion a pretty good concentration of gorgeous hookers in small area in Cartagena. In Cartagena without any previous planning or preparation you can concievably walk into La Dolce Vita and be surrounded by beautiful women that you can fuck for $50 - - same may happen in places in Bogota as has been reported -but the abmbiance there leaves something to be desired and the weather is just downright cold compared to Cartagena.
Medellin is the City Of The Eternal Spring. Because the weather is almost always around 80 degrees fahrenheit. It is the Godlilocks weather. If Bogota is too Cold (and it is) and Cartagena is too hot / humid (and it is) than Medellin is just right. Also as a bigger city there are a few areas that are crowded with restaurants and bars for La 70 and La 33 in Laureles come to mind but I prefer the area in Poblado east of Lleras Park in Poblado.
In reality these days I spread my time between both places. I do Cartagena first or I do Cartagena first and then Medellin and then back to Cartagena for a day or so then fly home. It depends on whether I find a significantly cheaper flight going to one city over the other. If it is summer time and hot here than I would rather start in Cartagena because the heat doesn't seem as miserable. Then it is such a relief to hit that perfect climate in Medellin with no humity. But if I start in Medellin then that heat and humidiy are just that much more oppressive. So that is an example of preference driven by weather for me.
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Thank you
Hey,
Thank you guys sincerely for the information and feedback.
In one comment, yes I agree should be more specific.
I have visited Medellin and Santo Domingo before. It would be my first trip to Cartagena and I really just wanted to make sure I did not waste a trip.
As far as quality of girls, I would be looking for top notch, spending money would not be the issue but also I am not trying to raise the rates of business LOL!
Medellin and Santo Domingo I had a great time in both places. Cartagena would be new and just wanted to see if that's where I should go or just revisit Santo or Medellin.
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Crackdown on Sex Tourism.
I thought prostitution is legal in Colombia so I don't understand this.
[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/turismo-sexual-en-cartagena-sera-sancionado-dice-mindefensa-LC16055169[/URL]
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Gray area
[QUOTE=CageMonkey;2628742]I thought prostitution is legal in Colombia so I don't understand this.
[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/turismo-sexual-en-cartagena-sera-sancionado-dice-mindefensa-LC16055169[/URL][/QUOTE]Although its legal, its limited to certain areas and brothels. But others factors are taking place blurring the lines. There are supposed to get tested regularly and since there are many Venezuelans coming over no one can keep track. Police don't really enforce it but things are changing.
[QUOTE]El ministro de Defensa, Diego Molano, dijo que se identificaron tres puntos críticos al interior de la ciudad amurallada, donde se ha identificado turismo sexual y que serán vigilados por las autoridades. [/QUOTE]Looks like they know the three spots inside the walls AKA the Pussy Triangle "Clocktower, Space / Dolce, Delirium". I strongly believe this is due to the uptick in increased sex tourism because many of these mongers can not get into Asia to monger so they are going to Latin America. Getting into some areas in Asia required all kinds of crazy stuff like Vaccinated and negative test, buying COVID insurance, etc. I don't know if these are still required but those mongers looking for sex are just going to go to places that don't have restrictions like DR and Colombia but when they get there for the first time the the girls can smell fresh meat and empty their pockets like Dublin12.
This may actually be a good thing, maybe after this the new chicas I approach will stop telling me 800 mil and come back to their senses jajaja.
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Wtf
[QUOTE=CageMonkey;2628742]I thought prostitution is legal in Colombia so I don't understand this.
[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/turismo-sexual-en-cartagena-sera-sancionado-dice-mindefensa-LC16055169[/URL][/QUOTE]This looks bad. I'm all booked for the second week of January. Just did it a few days ago. Is this just for show? Isn't it legal if no pimping is involved?
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[QUOTE=CageMonkey;2628742]I thought prostitution is legal in Colombia so I don't understand this.
[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/turismo-sexual-en-cartagena-sera-sancionado-dice-mindefensa-LC16055169[/URL][/QUOTE]The welcome has been worn out. It is legal in the sense that 2 adults can meet up for sex in exchange for money. It is not legal in the sense that you can make banners advertising it, lead tour groups, and have tons of people meeting in the town square making deals for it.
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Legal ways to monger?
How are we to work around this? I just made plans for the third week of January. I love Cartagena but hey, there is more attraction with the girls there. Do you think they will go online like in Mexico City? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Hate to spend money to change flight plans but will if the sport is gone.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2628759]The welcome has been worn out. It is legal in the sense that 2 adults can meet up for sex in exchange for money. It is not legal in the sense that you can make banners advertising it, lead tour groups, and have tons of people meeting in the town square making deals for it.[/QUOTE]Yes. That stunt the travel group Paradise Lyfe pulled back in August when I was there was beyond unnecessary. I kept seeing familiar faces but it didn't hit me until I saw this guy at the clock tower wearing a Paradise Lyfe shirt. Then someone mentioned they made flyers for a Delirium meetup, SMH.
I heard that same group did the same shit in Brazil as well but can't confirm.
Then there is the youtube crowd constantly filming and posting things online about it, advertising for everyone to see.
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[QUOTE=SouthernOcean;2628990]How are we to work around this? I just made plans for the third week of January. I love Cartagena but hey, there is more attraction with the girls there. Do you think they will go online like in Mexico City? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Hate to spend money to change flight plans but will if the sport is gone.[/QUOTE]The same that happened to Sosua will happen to Cartagena. Allot of my past Sosua girls got tired of being harassed by police so they went Tinder, Hinge, and OkKupid exclusively. So they just went from their house to the monger then back home, no need to walk up and down the strip risk being arrested or extorted. Girls from Cartagena are already on Tinder and Hinge, some of my regulars no longer walk Centro or work the clubs looking for a Monger and just do it online.
The girls will always be there and the apps will always be there.
I'll post a report after a few days. Right now I'm just going to chill a bit with this chica for a day or two before going out mongering at the usual places.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2628759]The welcome has been worn out. It is legal in the sense that 2 adults can meet up for sex in exchange for money. It is not legal in the sense that you can make banners advertising it, lead tour groups, and have tons of people meeting in the town square making deals for it.[/QUOTE]Perfectly stated.
TTM.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2629072]The same that happened to Sosua will happen to Cartagena. Allot of my past Sosua girls got tired of being harassed by police so they went Tinder, Hinge, and OkKupid exclusively. So they just went from their house to the monger then back home, no need to walk up and down the strip risk being arrested or extorted. Girls from Cartagena are already on Tinder and Hinge, some of my regulars no longer walk Centro or work the clubs looking for a Monger and just do it online.
The girls will always be there and the apps will always be there.
I'll post a report after a few days. Right now I'm just going to chill a bit with this chica for a day or two before going out mongering at the usual places.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I appreciate it.
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Crackdown in Cartagena
I don't want to tell you I told you so but I told you so. Those large groups of gringos "the posses" were getting out of control, making a scene and here we go. Taking over the Hollywood Beach and acting like it was a strip club and making a scene in public, getting swarmed over the massage ladies, and beach girls. Completely not cool, and it was just a matter of time before people were offended. Throwing dollars out of hotel windows in El Centro would be similar. For some reason these posses lacked enough common sense to be cool....really a shame because they may have ruined it for everybody else!
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2628759]The welcome has been worn out. It is legal in the sense that 2 adults can meet up for sex in exchange for money. It is not legal in the sense that you can make banners advertising it, lead tour groups, and have tons of people meeting in the town square making deals for it.[/QUOTE]This is what we were talking about a few months ago when I was in Cartagena, those American" posse" groups coming on to the beach putting on a big scene making the girls sit on their laps like they were at a strip club all in public. Then the parade continued in the evening if the clock tower taking pictures making a big scene and acting like big shots.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2629072]The same that happened to Sosua will happen to Cartagena. Allot of my past Sosua girls got tired of being harassed by police so they went Tinder, Hinge, and OkKupid exclusively. So they just went from their house to the monger then back home, no need to walk up and down the strip risk being arrested or extorted. Girls from Cartagena are already on Tinder and Hinge, some of my regulars no longer walk Centro or work the clubs looking for a Monger and just do it online.
The girls will always be there and the apps will always be there.
I'll post a report after a few days. Right now I'm just going to chill a bit with this chica for a day or two before going out mongering at the usual places.[/QUOTE]I think you're right, although there are reports of a crackdown, ultimately the girls will always walk the streets. When I was in Cartagena a few years ago, there was a fair amount of police patrolling around the clock tower; they know what's going on. Even if the girls aren't walking around the square, they'll be in the bars anyway.
I'm interested to hear how it is around there at the moment. I'm planning to return in April.
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The crackdown looks real
[QUOTE=JohnnyWishBone;2630278]I think you're right, although there are reports of a crackdown, ultimately the girls will always walk the streets. When I was in Cartagena a few years ago, there was a fair amount of police patrolling around the clock tower; they know what's going on. Even if the girls aren't walking around the square, they'll be in the bars anyway.
I'm interested to hear how it is around there at the moment. I'm planning to return in April.[/QUOTE]The initial stage of the crackdown is supposed to be 12/11 with full effect 12/24. They're talking military support and 11 new checkpoint type deals. Centro, San Diego and Getsemani all basically on heavy enforcement. Per the announcement Foreigners discovered seeking sex tout will be deported and label unwelcome people". How they are going to determine who is seeking is anyone's guess. I won't be back anytime soon.
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The square is basically closed
[QUOTE=JohnnyWishBone;2630278]I think you're right, although there are reports of a crackdown, ultimately the girls will always walk the streets. When I was in Cartagena a few years ago, there was a fair amount of police patrolling around the clock tower; they know what's going on. Even if the girls aren't walking around the square, they'll be in the bars anyway.
I'm interested to hear how it is around there at the moment. I'm planning to return in April.[/QUOTE]Since last Saturday no one can stop in the square. They have.
Barricades. Everyone has to keep walking. It'll be interesting to see how it goes win the crackdown hits full swing.
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[QUOTE=BrotherP;2630288]The initial stage of the crackdown is supposed to be 12/11 with full effect 12/24. They're talking military support and 11 new checkpoint type deals. Centro, San Diego and Getsemani all basically on heavy enforcement. Per the announcement Foreigners discovered seeking sex tout will be deported and label unwelcome people". How they are going to determine who is seeking is anyone's guess. I won't be back anytime soon.[/QUOTE]Let's see how long that lasts. Logically, the bars in and around the area will be become busier with girls looking. Plus as you pointed out, I cannot see how the local law enforcement can tell who is a sex tourist or not. And to what degree does a foreigner and local girl talking to each other constitute as soliciting sex / prostitution?
It's not the end of the world because you can get take-away from various sites plus apps like Tinder will have plenty on offer.
In any case, it will be interesting to read the recent experiences of Cartagena.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyWishBone;2630314] Plus as you pointed out, I cannot see how the local law enforcement can tell who is a sex tourist or not. And to what degree does a foreigner and local girl talking to each other constitute as soliciting sex / prostitution?
[/QUOTE]One thing that could turn into a worry is if they start doing things like they do in some cities in the USA and they start having gorgeous police women start to pose as prostitutes. Personally I think that this should be considered entrapment but they do it all the time. Entrapment is defined as inducing someone to do a crime they would not have otherwise done. So your argument is that if she had not been so sexy I never would have offered her money. Therefor if this partifcular women was not present there would not have been any crime.
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Here for awhile
[QUOTE=JohnnyWishBone;2630314]Let's see how long that lasts. Logically, the bars in and around the area will be become busier with girls looking. Plus as you pointed out, I cannot see how the local law enforcement can tell who is a sex tourist or not. And to what degree does a foreigner and local girl talking to each other constitute as soliciting sex / prostitution?
It's not the end of the world because you can get take-away from various sites plus apps like Tinder will have plenty on offer.
In any case, it will be interesting to read the recent experiences of Cartagena.[/QUOTE]I think it will be here for awhile. The President is saying he wants it cleaned up. I saw this in DR. The chicas are going to get dealt with I think. It's a shared space. Families, regular tourists, etc. They don't want blatant working girls.
What constitutes seeking is going to be whatever they say. A gringo can't fight the Colombian government. They can see you can leave with this unwanted label now, or sit in jail until we decide to hear your case. Who's going to win that.
They can make the bars stick to the occupancy levels, all the Venezuelans can easily be run off. They're bring in extra cops, military support and talking about deporting people and givthem an undesirable label. This is change. Not a stage.
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Yes
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2630325]One thing that could turn into a worry is if they start doing things like they do in some cities in the USA and they start having gorgeous police women start to pose as prostitutes. Personally I think that this should be considered entrapment but they do it all the time. Entrapment is defined as inducing someone to do a crime they would not have otherwise done. So your argument is that if she had not been so sexy I never would have offered her money. Therefor if this partifcular women was not present there would not have been any crime.[/QUOTE]Yes. I think this is already in place from what I've seen since the square is closed. My spidy senses were tingling!
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[QUOTE=BrotherP;2630288]Per the announcement Foreigners discovered seeking sex tout will be deported and label unwelcome people". How they are going to determine who is seeking is anyone's guess. I won't be back anytime soon.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=JohnnyWishBone;2630314]I cannot see how the local law enforcement can tell who is a sex tourist or not. And to what degree does a foreigner and local girl talking to each other constitute as soliciting sex / prostitution?[/quote]
You guys do not think they do not see the same hookers everyday? And those hoes usually dress a certain way too. You are a single foreign guy approaching one of them and it is easy to determine. You mongers and what you are doing is not invisible to the naked eye. Even blind people can see what is going on. You are on the inside looking around and figure nobody on the outside can see in. Well Surprise! They can.
Looks like the people that say they blend in and look like a local will have an advantage. They will not appear to be a foreigner looking for hookers, but a local looking for hookers.
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Exactly
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2630334]You guys do not think they do not see the same hookers everyday? And those hoes usually dress a certain way too. You are a single foreign guy approaching one of them and it is easy to determine. You mongers and what you are doing is not invisible to the naked eye. Even blind people can see what is going on. You are on the inside looking around and figure nobody on the outside can see in. Well they can!
Looks like the people that say they blend in and look like a local will have an advantage. They will not appear to be a foreigner looking for hookers, but a local looking for hookers.[/QUOTE]They know who is who. Dudes are going to get jammed up fast. Chicas too probably. Going to be bad for dudes who get the unwanted label.
We both know no one blends in. LOL. That was funny. I won't be back until this is over. Going to miss this town!
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Anyone flying JetBlue out of JFK prepare for a new annoyance. They did the usual no bag drop unless you show CheckMIG filled out but then once I got to the gate they made everyone line up to check if they had CheckMIG filled out before boarding. I was confused as fuck because they kept saying line up to have your documents ready but my boarding pass was on my phone so I was confused. I skipped the line because I already have it filled out and they tell me I don't have a check on my boarding pass. So I tell the lady this is my third time for the year and every time is something different what's next a drop of blood LOL. We laugh back and forth so I show her the CheckMIG email, scan my board pass and was on the plane. Passed the info onto my friend since he was coming Tuesday and he said they did the same shit to him about a smiley face on his boarding pass and because people didn't have their shit together that whole process made his plane depart 15 minutes late but he arrived 5 minutes early LOL.
For my first 2 days I've just been relaxing in the apartment with one of my regular chicas waiting for my friend to land. On my first day here, she told me to be careful because there is HIV going around due to increased tourists coming for sex and cops are looking for the girls to stop the spread. Of course I call bullshit, but her tactic worked because I only had her till Tuesday night. Tuesday we tried to go to La Serrezuela to eat and they asked for documents, we gave them our passport cards, then they asked for vaccine card and we looked at each other like WTF. Luckily we had the apps that had our cards inside. I then asked the hostess when did they start asking for vaccine cards because we were here in August and didn't have to show anything, she said they just started asking for cards on the 15th. (just a heads up to those not vaccinated, you may be asked to show the card or denied entry to restaurants).
Went out to the pussy triangle at Tuesday night. Lots of police at he clock tower. Barricades too. Very few girls walking around the clock tower, many inside Space and Dolce though. We both grabbed something out the club and headed back to the apartment to chill. Wednesday came around, rain, thunder, lighting. A wasted day so its just hanging out in the apartment until night time to head out and see what's out there.
Heads up for those coming in. Duty Free was stocked up on Titos $23 a piece and Ciroc 2 for $72.
Stay safe fellow mongers and don't get caught up an any bullshit here with these new enforcements.
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Plaza shutdown
Can't say I am surprised. I was there about three weeks ago and the general behavior of night time people there seemed different than in years past.
I used to go a lot to Cartagena and it was a lot more fun before the Vennie invasion. One night last month I found myself on that one block where LDV and Space is located. I was completely harassed by touts and women while walking over there, literally coming out of the doorways, doubling up on me, and crossing the street in an aggressive manner viewing me as a mark. On that particular occasion, I must have been hit on by ten not so pretty girls walking over from Plaza Madrid. It seemed to be a real low rent crowd too. It happened on the other street where Delirium is located as well. It was similar anti-social behavior with woman grabbing me — just a pure money grab — and I think many were Vennies. You used to never see girls in that area in prior years and they mainly stuck close to the plaza. Many of the touts struck me as a potentially dangerous due to their aggressive and at times hostile behavior. You know how it is, they follow you to the entry of LDV, for example, then try to get a payoff from the door for bringing you there even though I ignored them the entire time. I think it's a matter of time before there is an unfortunate incident involving a foreigner.
In years past, I don't even remember meeting a Vennie. They were usually girls from Medellin, Bucaramanga, or Cali and many were pretty nice, sometimes college students etc. , and had some memorable times. On this last trip, I did not encounter that type of lady; instead I got the feeling they were mostly trying to hustle you or worse.
Hopefully, this crackdown is short lived and rids the town of some of these bad elements.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2630334]You guys do not think they do not see the same hookers everyday? And those hoes usually dress a certain way too. You are a single foreign guy approaching one of them and it is easy to determine. You mongers and what you are doing is not invisible to the naked eye. Even blind people can see what is going on.
Looks like the people that say they blend in and look like a local will have an advantage. They will not appear to be a foreigner looking for hookers, but a local looking for hookers.[/QUOTE]
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Sad to hear
Haven't been reading the CTG board until today since I was planning a trip in mid December. Had a great time in 2015. Reading about this crackdown is sad, but more sad is that it sounds like tourists are coming in hoards and without any discretion. Has the same demographic of American tourists that overran Sousa now started coming to CTG in large packs acting loud and stupid and then posting and bragging about it on YouTube and social media? If so then maybe the crackdown is a good thing. Sucks that I may need to cancel my trip.
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Covid vaccine card requirement
Nothing special to add to tonight "Wednesday" but just a heads up to future mongers.
My friend and I saw fireworks shooting up from Centro so we decided to go and see what's going on. So by the time we got there its over thanks to the flooding from the rain earlier causing cabs to drive through the high water and breaking down (we are coming from El Laguito). The Clock tower was barricaded off and no chicas anywhere but to be fair it is a Wednesday night and not a Weekend. We then decided to check out Dolce since it was about 8 pm and we can get first pick at the chicas when the bouncer at the door asked for vaccine card. Now, I'm ready to argue the fuck they talking about because they always pull some shit when we want to go in but then he points at the sign on the door and lo and behold it says as of the 3rd of November entry is prohibited unless you present your vaccine card. I can't argue with a sign that's in plain English jajaja. So we go to get the cards on our phones. Mine comes up and I'm good to go, my friend however vaccine card mysteriously disappeared from the NYS Wallet app now he have to redo all the instructions to get the card back. But we finally got in and just a bunch of girls standing around and the surprising thing is that I recognize many of the girls from my prior trips in the year but now many of them went and got fake tits. SMH. Such a let down, so we left and went over to Space, the guys at the door already know us by face and don't even ask for Vaccine card or pat us down and just waves us in to enjoy the chicas.
So as a heads up to the unvaccinated, Dolce is a no go unless you can work your way around it.
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I forgot to add to my previous post.
Some genius decided to dress as a Arab prince and walk around Centro with fake police (yes, they were wearing vests and had "Police" Velcro tags instead of "Policia") drawing a crowd and having them follow him while some other genius was recording on a phone. They decided to do this walking right by Space / Dolce. SMH.
These new restrictions just may be a good thing.
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For the vaccine card or anything you need to bring up quick, just take a screenshot and use that. No need to mess with any apps.
Regarding the new law / situation, I don't see this law staying for too long. Maybe it's just there for the holiday season cause they will put up decorations in the Plaza. I remember they had the decorations last year with fewer people in the Plaza cause of covid and curfews. I don't think they will bother the clubs with the new law. They prob just want give the streets a clean look. Scaring tourist, even sex tourists, will have an economic affect on the city. Now also doing this to keep money out of the street vennies hands, I understand. Colombian chicas prob complaining they loosing work to undocumented vennies, or vennies in general.
And what does the new designation do in the long run? Are you no longer allowed back in the country forever? Suspended for a brief period? Won't know till someone gets it and I know just the group that will and where it'll be posted when they get it.
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I don't think the large posse's from the US are the entire cause of the crackdown but that phenomenon of large groups of mongers all hanging out together taking pictures posting all the rest of the bullshit that we've all observed did not help. To my brothers who like to travel in packs this just not the right way to do it. If you want to travel in a pack go to Disneyland. If you want to man up be cool come hang out or more power to you.
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Posse groups
Watching YouTube and reading message boards lately on DR and Colombia, it is interesting that this hobby which was generally older or middle aged men, alone or with a few close buddies, and discreet, has now been adopted by young guys who act hard and presumably have access to girls back home. Also boggles my mind why people would want to publicize their mongering and encourage others to come ruin it.
I knew Sosua has been overrun for a while with this demographic, but when did Colombia fall victim? In 2015 it was awesome no American tourists. Is it as bad as I as reading / seeing on other boards with respect to the invasion or moronic young Americans in Colombia?
Would hate to go there and feel like I'm on Atlanta or NY or something.
Internet has been a blessing and a curse.
SMH.
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[QUOTE=UnknownGuy;2630607]Regarding the new law / situation, I don't see this law staying for too long. Maybe it's just there for the holiday season cause they will put up decorations in the Plaza. They prob just want give the streets a clean look. Scaring tourist, even sex tourists, will have an economic affect on the city. Now also doing this to keep money out of the street vennies hands, I understand. Colombian chicas prob complaining they loosing work to undocumented vennies, or vennies in general.[/QUOTE]You seriously think the president of an entire country made a whole declaration because a few uneducated, unvoting, untaxpaying, broke ass street hookers complained about other street hookers or because of some holiday decorations?
There are actual law abiding citizens that do not give a fuck about your money that do not want to see this shit in their city. Do you want a bunch of hookers and tricks hanging on the corner down from your house or your city's primary landmark, or the place you and your family go get coffee or breakfast every morning?
You guys are really pompous to think you are doing the city a favor because you rent a hotel room and put a 100,000 pesos into a hooker's pocket.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2630627]You seriously think the president of an entire country made a whole declaration because a few uneducated, unvoting, untaxpaying, broke ass street hookers complained about other street hookers or because of some holiday decorations?
There are actual law abiding citizens that do not give a fuck about your money that do not want to see this shit in their city. Do you want a bunch of hookers and tricks hanging on the corner down from your house or your city's primary landmark, or the place you and your family go get coffee or breakfast every morning?
You guys are really pompous to think you are doing the city a favor because you rent a hotel room and put a 100,000 pesos into a hooker's pocket.[/QUOTE]It's a real shame it has come down to this smh there's this girl I was talking to whose from Cartagena and she did confirm that this is in fact true, girls have to do their business in clubs and in the side streets, not in the zone by the Clock Tower (the whole soliciting / negotiation thing that is).
Was looking forward to seeing all the girls in that area damn, big bummer for me. I would've loved to experience that oh well.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2630627]You seriously think the president of an entire country made a whole declaration because a few uneducated, unvoting, untaxpaying, broke ass street hookers complained about other street hookers or because of some holiday decorations?
There are actual law abiding citizens that do not give a fuck about your money that do not want to see this shit in their city. Do you want a bunch of hookers and tricks hanging on the corner down from your house or your city's primary landmark, or the place you and your family go get coffee or breakfast every morning?
You guys are really pompous to think you are doing the city a favor because you rent a hotel room and put a 100,000 pesos into a hooker's pocket.[/QUOTE]Not staying that anything I said could be the sole reason, but any of them can be contributing factors. Anything can be thought of as a contributing factor.
No way can we think also that the money we spend in that city is just flushed down the toilet with the colombian country saying we don't need your stinking money. It all goes past just putting 100 K pesos into hookers pockets. It's the hotels and bars that get monger money that will be affected. It's the restaurants and shops that may see a decrease in their revenue. Even the street vendors that mongers and chicas buy cheap beer and trinkets from will feel it. Mongers taking tours and taking chicas on tours or renting boats may feel the pinch. I find it impossible to think that completely getting rid of a source of income to a country, no matter how small it may be, would not have any impact to the country. Colombian aint swimming in gold, maybe drugs, coffee and sugar but not gold. Look what happened to DR when they completely closed the borders during covid. The country felt the pinch of no tourism money and decided to roll the dice with covid and opened the borders back up. I'm curious to see where their focus will be after Christmas.
Here's another article that mention sex exploitation of minors and sex trafficking as well. [URL]https://goodwordnews.com/foreigners-discovered-seeking-sex-tourism-will-be-deported-and-declared-unwelcome-people/[/URL].
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[QUOTE=Blingz;2630650]It's a real shame it has come down to this smh there's this girl I was talking to whose from Cartagena and she did confirm that this is in fact true, girls have to do their business in clubs and in the side streets, not in the zone by the Clock Tower (the whole soliciting / negotiation thing that is).
Was looking forward to seeing all the girls in that area damn, big bummer for me. I would've loved to experience that oh well.[/QUOTE]You might be good. Just keep all the numbers you had since your last trip. I wouldn't be surprised if everything moves to another area outside the walled city like Getsemani or maybe even El Laguito area.
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[QUOTE=Blingz;2630650]It's a real shame it has come down to this smh there's this girl I was talking to whose from Cartagena and she did confirm that this is in fact true, girls have to do their business in clubs and in the side streets, not in the zone by the Clock Tower (the whole soliciting / negotiation thing that is).
Was looking forward to seeing all the girls in that area damn, big bummer for me. I would've loved to experience that oh well.[/QUOTE]Same. One of my chicas came over today, known her since my first mongering trip here. When I showed her the article she laughed and said similar to what you say. She said "they did it because allot of chicas are being aggressive trying to solicit men even when they are with their families". So I laughed and said "at night there are no families at the clock tower" and she said "yes there are many and they don't like to see it." We had a little laugh about me becoming an unwanted visitor and getting banded but she said after Christmas in January everything will return to normal. Also they do not care about what happens in the clubs, they just don't want to see it out in the open in the plaza. So nothing to worry about if a monger knows how to do things discreetly and not always trying to make a scene with (all eyes on me) approach, those mongers can stay their asses in Sosua with that bullshit.
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[QUOTE=UnknownGuy;2630669]You might be good. Just keep all the numbers you had since your last trip. I wouldn't be surprised if everything moves to another area outside the walled city like Getsemani or maybe even El Laguito area.[/QUOTE]El Laguito already have it's street walkers. Not the best looking though as many are sloppy looking. They are always outside hotel Dan and Hotel Eldorado. I'm here now and every night I have to dodge them and make my way to Centro.
Speaking of back and forth from el Laguito to Centro, cab drivers here are trying to charge 20 mil for that trip when it's usually 8 mil.
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[QUOTE=UnknownGuy;2630667]Not staying that anything I said could be the sole reason, but any of them can be contributing factors. Anything can be thought of as a contributing factor.
No way can we think also that the money we spend in that city is just flushed down the toilet with the colombian country saying we don't need your stinking money. It all goes past just putting 100 K pesos into hookers pockets. It's the hotels and bars that get monger money that will be affected. It's the restaurants and shops that may see a decrease in their revenue.. [URL]https://goodwordnews.com/foreigners-discovered-seeking-sex-tourism-will-be-deported-and-declared-unwelcome-people/[/URL].[/QUOTE]At first reading and my first research on the subject I did not think that they were going after people seeking adult prostitutes but now I am pretty sure that this is the case.
One fact that demonstrates that most Cartagena does not want sex tourism is that over 99% of apartments and hotels do not allow visitors. If they thought for one second that their business was affected by turning away sex tourist they would all allow guests to have visitors but instead this is one of the only places in the world where they overwhelmingly disallow visitiors.
The other thing that indicates that this is more serious than even I thought was a speech made by Duque where he has vowed to make tourism "el proximo petroleo para Colombia" - the next oil for Colombia. Meaning that he wants to signifiicantly increase the percentage of the economy that is made up by normal tourism and if "sex tourism" is seen as a negative toward this goal then I am afraid that era has come to an end.
While I can see where you might think that this is true that mongers should be appreciated as part of the economy and as mongers obviously have a whole different attitude toward sex trade than does the majority of people. I read an article that insinuated that research had been conducted that leads the Colombian government to believe that the reputation of the city and the country as a tourist destination for families has suffered because of its reputaion as a sex tourist site. Thus they believe that overall tourism suffers beccause of this. Over the years and even recently there have been a few high profile incidences that have made international news. The most known being the incident with the Secrect Service agent who refused to pay a hooker.
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-17747793[/URL]
Then a couple years after that there was a huge sting with busts of foreigners coming into Cartagena to have sex with non adults. It was and continues to be seared into the brains of Colombians that most men who come to Colombia to buy sex do not do so with adults. That is the impression that was made in so many minds by this incident.
[URL]https://www.infobae.com/america/colombia/2018/07/31/asi-eran-las-fiestas-sexuales-de-madame-la-proxeneta-de-cartagena-que-dejo-mas-de-250-victimas/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6921599/colombia-prostitution-ring-cartagena-slaves-police-raid/[/URL]
- then more recently some ******* had someone filming while he had sex on a hotel balcony where everyone below could see. The video went viral. The amount of nagative attention that has been brought by idiots. Before the incident involving the Secret Service agent Colombias Tourist slogan was "Colombia is Passion". When the story hit the international news they almost immediately pulled all the ads with that slogan. Revamping a campaign that probably cost millions of dollars.
If you search Cartagena on Youtube a good portion of the videos are calling attention to the sex trade. Not Good! At all! The conservative Colombia media has taken notice of this and other things.
[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/escandalo-en-cartagena-por-congreso-de-la-industria-pornografica-AA6525376[/URL]
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[QUOTE=UnknownGuy;2630667]Look what happened to DR when they completely closed the borders during covid. The country felt the pinch of no tourism money and decided to roll the dice with covid and opened the borders back up.[/QUOTE]This was not because of the few mongers that go to Sosua. This was because of the countless foreign tourists that go to the resorts in Punta Cana! Also a big difference in the economy of an island and the economy of a mainland country.
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Well said!
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2630683]At first reading and my first research on the subject I did not think that they were going after people seeking adult prostitutes but now I am pretty sure that this is the case.
One fact that demonstrates that most Cartagena does not want sex tourism is that over 99% of apartments and hotels do not allow visitors. If they thought for one second that their business was affected by turning away sex tourist they would all allow guests to have visitors but instead this is one of the only places in the world where they overwhelmingly disallow visitiors.
The other thing that indicates that this is more serious than even I thought was a speech made by Duque where he has vowed to make tourism "el proximo petroleo para Colombia" - the next oil for Colombia. Meaning that he wants to signifiicantly increase the percentage of the economy that is made up by normal tourism and if "sex tourism" is seen as a negative toward this goal then I am afraid that era has come to an end.
While I can see where you might think that this is true that mongers should be appreciated as part of the economy and as mongers obviously have a whole different attitude toward sex trade than does the majority of people. I read an article that insinuated that research had been conducted that leads the Colombian government to believe that the reputation of the city and the country as a tourist destination for families has suffered because of its reputaion as a sex tourist site. Thus they believe that overall tourism suffers beccause of this. Over the years and even recently there have been a few high profile incidences that have made international news. The most known being the incident with the Secrect Service agent who refused to pay a hooker.
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-17747793[/URL]
Then a couple years after that there was a huge sting with busts of foreigners coming into Cartagena to have sex with non adults. It was and continues to be seared into the brains of Colombians that most men who come to Colombia to buy sex do not do so with adults. That is the impression that was made in so many minds by this incident.
[URL]https://www.infobae.com/america/colombia/2018/07/31/asi-eran-las-fiestas-sexuales-de-madame-la-proxeneta-de-cartagena-que-dejo-mas-de-250-victimas/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6921599/colombia-prostitution-ring-cartagena-slaves-police-raid/[/URL]
- then more recently some ******* had someone filming while he had sex on a hotel balcony where everyone below could see. The video went viral. The amount of nagative attention that has been brought by idiots. Before the incident involving the Secret Service agent Colombias Tourist slogan was "Colombia is Passion". When the story hit the international news they almost immediately pulled all the ads with that slogan. Revamping a campaign that probably cost millions of dollars.
If you search Cartagena on Youtube a good portion of the videos are calling attention to the sex trade. Not Good! At all! The conservative Colombia media has taken notice of this and other things.
[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/escandalo-en-cartagena-por-congreso-de-la-industria-pornografica-AA6525376[/URL][/QUOTE]Well said! I agree 100%! This isn't going to blow over anytime soon. Maybe once the run off the YouTube dudes and groups, which I call Wolfpacks, the discreet dudes who know how to move can come back.
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The one thing that I wonder about is what happens after the law goes into effect when someone calls the police for a situation. I know a lot of cops would give the gringo the shakedown, but now they can really shake someone down by saying we'll haul you away, stamp you a "unpleasant" and deport you. I see the shakedown amounts going up. The rule doesn't say what's the punishment for the colombian or vennie, if there is any.
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Crackdown
There is an understandable sense of doom and gloom with the crackdown of street hookers, especially because the Clock tower square during the weekend is such a feast on the eyes. No one really knows how it is going to play out, so best just wait and see rather than try to be right and say, "I told you so".
I have my fingers crossed that it will blow over and things will get back to normal, especially in time for my return in April!
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[QUOTE=UnknownGuy;2630667] Look what happened to DR when they completely closed the borders during covid. The country felt the pinch of no tourism money and decided to roll the dice with covid and opened the borders back up. I'm curious to see where their focus will be after Christmas.[/QUOTE]Colombia is not dependent on sex tourism money like the DR. Unlike the DR; the P4 P scene hasn't boomed the economy with sex tourist money within the last 12 years.
The Colombians have been patronizing themselves for years. Foreigners are Johnny come latelys . It seems no area wants to be labeled a sex tourist destination. Acceptable P4 P is organized and done with discretion. I've noticed the majority of chicas in the casas are Colombians. Most of Venezuelans work in the street.
I remember my friend and I walking the streets of Cali Colombia with a local Colombian. The Columbian couldn't understand why my friend was trying to conduct business with the SW. He said they were mostly Venezuelans and not considered safe. The Casas and bars were more discrete, safe, and socially acceptable.
I can see the Colombians targeting SW. At the clock tower I notice a mixture of families with and without children and SWs. The SWs seemed to be excepted but discretion had seemed to been taking a backseat.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2630678]Speaking of back and forth from el Laguito to Centro, cab drivers here are trying to charge 20 mil for that trip when it's usually 8 mil.[/QUOTE]It's still 8 k-9 k for a taxi from El Laguito to Centro and 20 k from El Laguito to the airport. Their taking advantage of you for sure. You better shop around.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2630678]Speaking of back and forth from el Laguito to Centro, cab drivers here are trying to charge 20 mil for that trip when it's usually 8 mil.[/QUOTE]It's still 8 k-9 k for a taxi from El Laguito to Centro and 20 k from El Laguito to the airport. Their taking advantage of you for sure. You better shop around.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyWishBone;2630704]There is an understandable sense of doom and gloom with the crackdown of street hookers, especially because the Clock tower square during the weekend is such a feast on the eyes. No one really knows how it is going to play out, so best just wait and see rather than try to be right and say, "I told you so".
I have my fingers crossed that it will blow over and things will get back to normal, especially in time for my return in April![/QUOTE]If the president wants to clean things up, the easiest area to do so will be the clock tower. If you are trying to bring in tourists with families, it is a no-brainer to clean that area up but then it gets a lot harder.
Cancun generates $20 billion a year and oil generates $10 to $15 billion for Colombia. Does Cartagena have the infrastructure Cancun does? Nah. The beaches? Nah. The fun things to do like the Xcaret parks? Nah. Las Vegas style shows? Nah. Easy 2 or 3 hours flights from Mexico and the USA? Nah. A sane Covid policy for tourists like Mexico? Nah.
Mexico cracked down on prostitution. They did not want the image of being ho to the USA sex tourist and outside of Tijuana, a big city in and of itself, the Boystown areas in the border towns like Laredo, Reynosa, and Juarez became virtual hoing ghost towns. However if you traveled to Guadalajara, Mexico City, or Monterrey inside of Mexico, you could find Western style strip clubs, escorts, and sugar babies galore and for not very much. So if you were to follow the Mexico model, that is what you should do. Keep the hos but keep them away from the families and not so out in the open.
In the Cancun area, the escort agencies have been cracked down on. Still, there are high end strip clubs. For the Mexicans, there are casas where you can get your needs met. I have been there but I had my own map and rented a car and got serviced on the cheap with no problem. Another monger went by cab. The police stopped him and told him, "The casas are not meant for you. Stick to the tourist areas."
The easy part is saying you want to be the next Cancun. The hard part is getting there. Mexico's infrastructure is miles ahead of Colombia, and you have to treat the tourists well to some degree. This president locked up his own people for 7 months, is demonizing mongers, and is requiring vaccine cards to go out to eat.
I was in Cancun when there was a huge Indian wedding. You are talking about a 100 guests and probably 50 rooms rented out at the Marriott. These are the events the president is dying to have. Could you do this in Colombia right now? Given the restrictions, my answer is not just no but hell no. And even if you could, the flights from 48 of the 50 states would be a nightmare.
It will very interesting to see if Colombia can turn itself into a tourist destination. There are some great and interesting places to see. That said, I think this president is the last one who should be trying to do it. He needs some serious training in hospitality.
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[QUOTE=UnknownGuy;2630699]The one thing that I wonder about is what happens after the law goes into effect when someone calls the police for a situation. I know a lot of cops would give the gringo the shakedown, but now they can really shake someone down by saying we'll haul you away, stamp you a "unpleasant" and deport you. I see the shakedown amounts going up. The rule doesn't say what's the punishment for the colombian or vennie, if there is any.[/QUOTE]That's right it's an easy shake down. And they already shaking people down whenever they can get away with it. These things come in waves in Havana it was a little bit tricky just before Covid shut everything down, and now it's apparently wide open. I don't mean to be offensive and pointing the finger at any individual group but the sense of entitlement of these posse's rubs me the wrong way. It's the younger crowd that's doing this and it's an eye so that's for sure. Whoever is running these tours is one step away from some big trouble
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They sure are
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2630822]It's still 8 k-9 k for a taxi from El Laguito to Centro and 20 k from El Laguito to the airport. Their taking advantage of you for sure. You better shop around.[/QUOTE]I usually do InDriver or Uber and its only 8 or 9 K but then we have to wait 10 minutes for the car to show up as opposed to just walking out and allot of Taxis are there waiting. Also the Taxis drive faster and more aggressively getting us there faster. The Ubers drive like its their firs time driving a car, slow and steady.
I'm 100% guilty of not wanting to wait and end up paying the gringo price, when I'm ready to go, I'm ready to go jajaja.
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No more out in the open
Walled through the plaza tonight, Police are basically keeping all girls away from there, both outside and inside. All the girls are now inside the clubs or walking around outside the clubs.
Those who know how to use the apps or have a solid list of chicas in their contacts will not be affected.
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Cut off the head the body will die
President Iváand Duque announced that foreigners involved in sexual crimes will be deported.
Those who are caught in Cartagena seeking sex tourism services will be declared "non gratas", said President Iváand Duque this Saturday, during the launch of an offensive against sexual exploitation in that city on the Colombian Caribbean coast.
"Tourist who in this country intends to fall into any of these practices, will not only be deported, but will be declared persona non grata, and of course, before the commission of any crime, the respective prosecution will proceed," said the President.
The so-called 'Christmas Security Plan' implies the arrival of 50 additional police officers and 10 of judicial investigation, who will be in charge of monitoring and prosecuting those involved in sexual crimes in Cartagena.
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Trafficking ring that recruited women under threats of witchcraft falls.
The control of piers, hotels, establishments, and especially in the Clock Tower, one of the best-known entrances to the walled city, where sexual tourism is reported from the early hours of the day, will also be strengthened.
Defense Minister Diego Molano said that three critical points were identified inside the walled city, where sex tourism has been identified and that they will be monitored by the authorities.
"This also implies a special effort with the Attorney General's Office and the Police, with the most wanted in this type of crime, in addition to a contribution from the Ministry of the Interior to strengthening the mobility of the Tourist Police in the city," he said. Defense Minister Diego Molano, who accompanied the launch of the strategy.
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The game don't stop
[QUOTE=Nypher;2631065]Walled through the plaza tonight, Police are basically keeping all girls away from there, both outside and inside. All the girls are now inside the clubs or walking around outside the clubs.
Those who know how to use the apps or have a solid list of chicas in their contacts will not be affected.[/QUOTE]Everything's going back indoors like in the other cities. I notice that [URL]skokka.com[/URL] has a lot of one chica casas.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2630869]If the president wants to clean things up, the easiest area to do so will be the clock tower. If you are trying to bring in tourists with families, it is a no-brainer to clean that area up but then it gets a lot harder.
Cancun generates $20 billion a year and oil generates $10 to $15 billion for Colombia. Does Cartagena have the infrastructure Cancun does? Nah. The beaches? Nah. The fun things to do like the Xcaret parks? Nah. Las Vegas style shows? Nah. Easy 2 or 3 hours flights from Mexico and the USA? Nah. A sane Covid policy for tourists like Mexico? Nah.
Mexico cracked down on prostitution. They did not want the image of being ho to the USA sex tourist and outside of Tijuana, a big city in and of itself, the Boystown areas in the border towns like Laredo, Reynosa, and Juarez became virtual hoing ghost towns. However if you traveled to Guadalajara, Mexico City, or Monterrey inside of Mexico, you could find Western style strip clubs, escorts, and sugar babies galore and for not very much. So if you were to follow the Mexico model, that is what you should do. Keep the hos but keep them away from the families and not so out in the open..[/QUOTE]Cancun's climate is more accommodating. Cartagena is brutally oppressive outside of winter months.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2631065]Walled through the plaza tonight, Police are basically keeping all girls away from there, both outside and inside. All the girls are now inside the clubs or walking around outside the clubs.
Those who know how to use the apps or have a solid list of chicas in their contacts will not be affected.[/QUOTE]Now that's a sad photo. I loved hunting at the Clocktower Plaza last April. Cartagena, I can take or leave but the Clocktower was fun.
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Here's an interesting article on the impending crackdown.
[URL]https://www.infobae.com/america/colombia/2021/11/21/extranjeros-que-sean-descubiertos-buscando-turismo-sexual-seran-deportados-y-declarados-personas-no-gratas/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2631065]Walled through the plaza tonight, Police are basically keeping all girls away from there, both outside and inside. All the girls are now inside the clubs or walking around outside the clubs.
Those who know how to use the apps or have a solid list of chicas in their contacts will not be affected.[/QUOTE]Damn, what a shame. I'm scared to even go to Cartagena now. I'd be scared to even approach a girl in the clubs and ask for services. They probably would do stings or something idk. Any idea about that? Are we able to approach them in the side streets and in clubs or is that an issue too? This is crazy. I really need to know otherwise I'm just going to stick to Medellin and Bogota for my trip in January.
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2631332]Cancun's climate is more accommodating. Cartagena is brutally oppressive outside of winter months.[/QUOTE]Kafka,
That is interesting take. Honestly, though, I had to pass on going to Cancun in the summer months because of the amount of rain. In the fall, there were hurricanes and tropical storms. I thought the Mexican Pacific was hurricane free, but then they had a small one while I was in Acapulco. I was told Cartagena is hurricane free.
The one place I saw that always had sun and good weather was Cabo San Lucas. Thing is that when you get into the depths of winter, it can get pretty cold there.
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The columbine girl on First Date Disaster | 90 Day
Anyone has seen [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXATfZKoJ1Y[/URL] ?
What are the chances of finding a cute girl like this who can speak English like her in Cartagena?
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2630678]
Speaking of back and forth from el Laguito to Centro, cab drivers here are trying to charge 20 mil for that trip when it's usually 8 mil.[/QUOTE]I notice this trend among taxi drivers when dealing with foreigners has changed to be more aggressive and deceptive. Many of them want to get in on the overcharging of tourists.
One taxi driver told me that I have to pay 20,000 pesos instead of 8 because it was raining. We argued in the taxi but he had home-field advantage and I had already given him the 20,000 expecting my change. It's not the money. It was how he try to handle me.
I noticed their overall attitudes were far more deceptive from when I first came. It's like being back in a DR where you have to ask them how much before you conduct any business.
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[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2631536]I notice this trend among taxi drivers when dealing with foreigners has changed to be more aggressive and deceptive. Many of them want to get in on the overcharging of tourists.
One taxi driver told me that I have to pay 20,000 pesos instead of 8 because it was raining. We argued in the taxi but he had home-field advantage and I had already given him the 20,000 expecting my change. It's not the money. It was how he try to handle me.
I noticed their overall attitudes were far more deceptive from when I first came. It's like being back in a DR where you have to ask them how much before you conduct any business.[/QUOTE]Thats exactly how there were getting us. They would say its raining and streets are flooded so it cost more. But to be fair we did have to drive very slow through some foul smelling water every night in Bocagrande and EL Laguito. After the first 2 time they got me with the 20 mil on this trip I just tell them "10 mil a Centro" or 10 mil a El Laguito" then when they say no I start walking to another taxi and it quickly changes to yes jajaja.
Same shit the motoconchos use to do to me in Sosua. I know its 50 pesos to get from where we were to the beach or Anvee but they wants to charge 100 or 200 pesos.
Every day haggling jajaja.
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[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2631536]I notice this trend among taxi drivers when dealing with foreigners has changed to be more aggressive and deceptive. Many of them want to get in on the overcharging of tourists.
One taxi driver told me that I have to pay 20,000 pesos instead of 8 because it was raining. We argued in the taxi but he had home-field advantage and I had already given him the 20,000 expecting my change. It's not the money. It was how he try to handle me.
I noticed their overall attitudes were far more deceptive from when I first came. It's like being back in a DR where you have to ask them how much before you conduct any business.[/QUOTE]If you go from the airport terminal, they add an airport fee for airport pickup. Often I have walked a couple of blocks away, onto the main street, by the drug store and hail my cab from there. Also they have a rate chart. Normally 8 mil sounds like the regular rate. But the rate is higher after certain hours and possibly on weekends. Ask for the rate chart if you feel they are taking advantage of you.
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Taxis
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2631536]I notice this trend among taxi drivers when dealing with foreigners has changed to be more aggressive and deceptive. Many of them want to get in on the overcharging of tourists.
One taxi driver told me that I have to pay 20,000 pesos instead of 8 because it was raining. We argued in the taxi but he had home-field advantage and I had already given him the 20,000 expecting my change. It's not the money. It was how he try to handle me.
I noticed their overall attitudes were far more deceptive from when I first came. It's like being back in a DR where you have to ask them how much before you conduct any business.[/QUOTE]Bro if you hopped in a taxi without first agreeing on the price then that's all on you.
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The entitlement when some mongers overpay
So this is just a little piece of what's happening over my first week here.
Keep in mind these girls were inside the club, female to male ratio was 10 to 1 and they were sitting being blocked by a wall of other girls standing so mongers couldn't see them. We only saw them because they were sitting at the table behind us.
So I got both the numbers and and told one of them 400 K each for the night for my friend and I, dos palvos. It was a simple deal, my friend gets one girl and I get the other, no sharing girls or any thing crazy like that. Both girls demanded 1. 1 mil or $100 for the hour or $300 for the night each.
My friend an I are not about to drop $600 combined on some average looking chicas when we have endless options.
Needless to say, instant delete and we just went with girls that were already know. Prices already set based on our history of knowing them over the years and zero bullshit haggling from being over charged.
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[QUOTE=Mtljay;2631449]Anyone has seen [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXATfZKoJ1Y[/URL] ?
What are the chances of finding a cute girl like this who can speak English like her in Cartagena?[/QUOTE]Slim to none.
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[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2631536]I notice this trend among taxi drivers when dealing with foreigners has changed to be more aggressive and deceptive. Many of them want to get in on the overcharging of tourists.
One taxi driver told me that I have to pay 20,000 pesos instead of 8 because it was raining. We argued in the taxi but he had home-field advantage and I had already given him the 20,000 expecting my change. It's not the money. It was how he try to handle me.
I noticed their overall attitudes were far more deceptive from when I first came. It's like being back in a DR where you have to ask them how much before you conduct any business.[/QUOTE]I find the same thing to be true. In general it feels like the whole country is kind of become more disrespectful of foreigners. If the president really wants to make Cartagena more hospitable for travelers he needs to crack down on all the hustlers that are pushing a hard sale on tourists no matter where they're from. Sure the clock tower has become something of an eyesore and that's understandable but targeting foreigners is not the answer. To me sex tourism is people on sex tours, groups that are specifically marketed as providing sexual experiences. Bit I heve mo idea what Duque means, and I don't know about you but I don't want to be the test case.
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[QUOTE=Mtljay;2631449]Anyone has seen [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXATfZKoJ1Y[/URL] ?
What are the chances of finding a cute girl like this who can speak English like her in Cartagena?[/QUOTE]Like Kafka says it is hard to find chicas in Cartagena or any of Colombia that speak good English. As per her ;looks I also point out that it said at the beginning of the video that the girl was from Bucaramanga. There was one scene where it looked like Cartagena but the rest looks like it was shot in Bucaramanga. This explains something about her looks. Average chica from Cartagena is going to be darker skinned becuase they are Costena but a chica from Bucaramanga is more fair skinned becuase like chicas from Medellin they are essentially Paisa from the Andes region. That goes without saying that plenty of chicas from the Andes region do visit Cartagena to work. But as far as her speaking Englsih so well I wonder if he or the producers of this TV show did not shop around on a website like Colombian cupid or even seeking arrangements to find her. That would explain how he snagged one who speaks English so well.
Some of the most gorgeous women (in my opinion) I have met in Cartagena were from Bucaramanga. There is an old photo attached of one I met years ago. You can see by her cell phone how long ago.
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Clubs are safe
[QUOTE=Blingz;2631360]Damn, what a shame. I'm scared to even go to Cartagena now. I'd be scared to even approach a girl in the clubs and ask for services. They probably would do stings or something idk. Any idea about that? Are we able to approach them in the side streets and in clubs or is that an issue too? This is crazy. I really need to know otherwise I'm just going to stick to Medellin and Bogota for my trip in January.[/QUOTE]Clubs are safe just make sure the chicas have their Cedula and verify their age.
The problem I have with this is that they are pushing all the girls from where the clock tower to inside the clubs, and if they do that it won't be long before the clubs do the same bullshit in Cartagena that they do state side where girls enter free but guys have to pay to enter. Dolce already hit me with that a few times this year where no bottle service no entry. When I cave and say ok and point to the medium bottle they say they don't have any more only large bottles. When I point to the Titos they say they don't have it either. So we usually end up getting some type of liquor we don't drink and just give it away to the girls just so we can get in have a seat and get decent girls.
But to be fair Dolce is now full of fake tits and fake ass and some of it looks so ridiculous because their thighs are so skinny compared to their ass. It's like sticking 2 toothpicks in a meatball.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2631738]Like Kafka says it is hard to find chicas in Cartagena or any of Colombia that speak good English. As per her ;looks I also point out that it said at the beginning of the video that the girl was from Bucaramanga. There was one scene where it looked like Cartagena but the rest looks like it was shot in Bucaramanga. This explains something about her looks. Average chica from Cartagena is going to be darker skinned becuase they are Costena but a chica from Bucaramanga is more fair skinned becuase like chicas from Medellin they are essentially Paisa from the Andes region. That goes without saying that plenty of chicas from the Andes region do visit Cartagena to work. But as far as her speaking Englsih so well I wonder if he or the producers of this TV show did not shop around on a website like Colombian cupid or even seeking arrangements to find her. That would explain how he snagged one who speaks English so well.
Some of the most gorgeous women (in my opinion) I have met in Cartagena were from Bucaramanga. There is an old photo attached of one I met years ago. You can see by her cell phone how long ago.[/QUOTE]Beautiful this is why I love Colombia. I agree about the Bucaramanga girls. For some reason they're more down to earth than the Medellin and definitely the Cartagena. I'm not going to shed any tears about the Clock Tower, the last time I was there in September it was rough, not really the girls but the other element that seemed to come around. Just getting in a taxi was problematic.
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[QUOTE=Tiny12;2631337]Here's an interesting article on the impending crackdown.
[URL]https://www.infobae.com/america/colombia/2021/11/21/extranjeros-que-sean-descubiertos-buscando-turismo-sexual-seran-deportados-y-declarados-personas-no-gratas/[/URL][/QUOTE]I think all of this is just assurance for the holidays that Cartagena will be puta-free. They want people to come and spend their money in the city for the holidays and last thing they want those people to talk about when they home is how many putas where running around the plaza.
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[QUOTE=Lebyteme;2631612]Bro if you hopped in a taxi without first agreeing on the price then that's all on you.[/QUOTE]This right here! I always ask how much or tell them the price. There are lots of cabs that someone will take my 10 mil.
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[QUOTE=Mtljay;2631449]Anyone has seen [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXATfZKoJ1Y[/URL] ?
What are the chances of finding a cute girl like this who can speak English like her in Cartagena?[/QUOTE]I went dates with like 50 women from [URL]seeking.com[/URL]/ SA over the last 2 years and tried to pick out the most attractive. There were two of fifty who were in her class looks wise, and neither spoke English.
Honestly, the hardest thing to find in comparison to a girl like that is the height and weight. She looks like she is over five nine and under 130 lbs. I bet there is less than a dozen gals like that in Cartagena and less than a hundred in either Medellin or Bogota.
Speaking English is a mixed bag. I would say 5 of 50 were fluent and half spoke some English. With my Spanish and their English and google translate, we got by. Communication was not an issue with me.
The irony is the hourglass figure this girl has, which is so hard to find in the USA, was something I looked for and found in Colombia. I would probably put that number at 75 or 80% of the women I dated. Interestingly, the guys on here who live in Colombia are less than impressed with perfect figures and say they see it every day.
My gal told me that Paisas are the shortest of the women in Colombia, and she is a model and five ten herself, so I guess she would know. Finding a tall hot Paisa like this would seem to be pretty hard to do.
My gal does not have tattoos but her friends have told her she is boring for not getting them. I do not know what to make of these gal's tats. She gives off more of a model vibe than stripper vibe, but I cannot imagine modeling agencies liking the tats.
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PCR test in Cartagena?
I wonder if you could tell me if you know how I can get a PCR Covid test in Cartagena? You wrote (in a very interesting report) that "Got my PCR test for 220 k. My guide set the test up and they came to my Airbnb."
Thanks in advance.
Cleland.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2631636]So this is just a little piece of what's happening over my first week here.
Keep in mind these girls were inside the club, female to male ratio was 10 to 1 and they were sitting being blocked by a wall of other girls standing so mongers couldn't see them. We only saw them because they were sitting at the table behind us.
So I got both the numbers and and told one of them 400 K each for the night for my friend and I, dos palvos. It was a simple deal, my friend gets one girl and I get the other, no sharing girls or any thing crazy like that. Both girls demanded 1. 1 mil or $100 for the hour or $300 for the night each.
My friend an I are not about to drop $600 combined on some average looking chicas when we have endless options.
Needless to say, instant delete and we just went with girls that were already know. Prices already set based on our history of knowing them over the years and zero bullshit haggling from being over charged.[/QUOTE]The issue is simple. The girls are getting paid this from the weekend mongers. They get drunk and high and these average girls look like a dime and they give 'them what they want not to hassle.
Me personally I am guilty of paying a premium. But on my longer trips I will pay market rate with all options available. On my short trips I will not hassle with time not being on my side and especially if the trip lands on a weekend, even the average girls are willing to gamble.
Let's be real for a minute. What you're offering is hard work for her. She can take 3 days to find one client whose so fucked up he prob won't even get it up. I mean you have to be intoxicated to pay 300 $ without hassling right?
But that same offer you gave her will be good on a Monday when she needs money.
The game the girls run is pretty simple too.
Thurs. Sat during prime club hours the price is at a premium unless it's late and the girl is running out of options.
Nothing wrong with the way you're doing things.
But being around so many of these girls and knowing how they operate you just got to simply hit them when you know your money will go a longer way.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2631636]So I got both the numbers and and told one of them 400 K each for the night for my friend and I, dos palvos.[/QUOTE]You mean 2 polvos!
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[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2630770]Colombia is not dependent on sex tourism money like the DR. Unlike the DR; the P4 P scene hasn't boomed the economy with sex tourist money within the last 12 years.
The Colombians have been patronizing themselves for years. Foreigners are Johnny come latelys . It seems no area wants to be labeled a sex tourist destination. Acceptable P4 P is organized and done with discretion. I've noticed the majority of chicas in the casas are Colombians. Most of Venezuelans work in the street.
I remember my friend and I walking the streets of Cali Colombia with a local Colombian. The Columbian couldn't understand why my friend was trying to conduct business with the SW. He said they were mostly Venezuelans and not considered safe. The Casas and bars were more discrete, safe, and socially acceptable.
I can see the Colombians targeting SW. At the clock tower I notice a mixture of families with and without children and SWs. The SWs seemed to be excepted but discretion had seemed to been taking a backseat.[/QUOTE]Caregena us one big corrupt hustle the foreigner center man. Beautiful historic city ruined by awful scummy perty criminals left and right. Two months there was enough for an entire lifetime for ne. As a solo traveller you will be targeted if you stay for an extended period of time just because they always see you put and about and begin to figure out you might have mire money than your average 3 to 5 day tourist.
1 word describes living in Cartagena: exhausting. And am in Panama now and ill gladly pay the higher prices for a nirmal life again without being harassed everywhere I go and walk. I have no idea why these silly youtubers gush about how nice the people are in Cartegena. Its a complete BS fairy tale based on their encounters with prostitutes who are paid to like them. Effin idiots. I cringe at every youtube video I see regarding Cartagena. They are not nice nor respectful to foreigners there at all. Even non scammer local store clerks got attitude problems.
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I'm still learning jajaja
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2632009]You mean 2 polvos![/QUOTE]I'm happy palvos don't mean fleas LOL.
I make so many typos when on mobile.
I'm 2 months in self learning using Babbel and Tandem.
The most I have covered are greetings and ordering food. My regular chicas always bust my chops when they are over and I'm trying to tell them something in Spanish. They are tracing me more and more slang terms but it's odd because it seems every village have it's own slang words.
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[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2631992]I mean you have to be intoxicated to pay 300 $ without hassling right?[/QUOTE]No. You just have to be used to paying $1000 back home.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2631992]But that same offer you gave her will be good on a Monday when she needs money.[/quote]He might not be horny Monday when she needs money. Or he could be gone back home even. Strike while the iron is hot is and a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush are what these chicks need to learn.
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[QUOTE=ClelandJack;2631958]I wonder if you could tell me if you know how I can get a PCR Covid test in Cartagena? You wrote (in a very interesting report) that "Got my PCR test for 220 k. My guide set the test up and they came to my Airbnb."
Thanks in advance..[/QUOTE]There's a place right on the main drag in Boca grande a couple of blocks from Juan Valdez Coffee Shop. I can't remember the name of the street but everything is on there all the casinos, it's one block off the beach. You can't miss it it's a big storefront type operation and you can see right in the window people are waiting for the tests it's a no-brainer
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[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2631992]The issue is simple. The girls are getting paid this from the weekend mongers. They get drunk and high and these average girls look like a dime and they give 'them what they want not to hassle.
Me personally I am guilty of paying a premium. But on my longer trips I will pay market rate with all options available. On my short trips I will not hassle with time not being on my side and especially if the trip lands on a weekend, even the average girls are willing to gamble.
Let's be real for a minute. What you're offering is hard work for her. She can take 3 days to find one client whose so fucked up he prob won't even get it up. I mean you have to be intoxicated to pay 300 $ without hassling right?
But that same offer you gave her will be good on a Monday when she needs money.
The game the girls run is pretty simple too..[/QUOTE]They're waiting for a big fish going to make them go hurry. I understand if they get a big fish then they don't have to work for another month but looks like they not eating that night. Looks like allot of them weren't eating at all because almost all of them were sucking on loli pops in the club.
I already have a good network of chicas in Cartagena. Been coming here for 5 years and its 5 years of weeding out the bad ones and keeping the good ones. My friend and I wanted 2 new girls that are friends so that they will get along well once we get back to the apartment but that went out the window. We ended up just calling over girls that we had at the same time before, this way they already know each other and know how we operate.
These same girls in the club going for those high prices are 200 K tops in the day, and a few of chicas are understanding that if they can't make it, they ask me if I want their friend. Then there are the jealous ones that only want you with them.
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Maybe reason for crackdown is Biden visit
[QUOTE=Kafka;2632100][/QUOTE]The president of the United States, Joe Biden, would come to Cartagena in December.
It would be the first official visit that the president would make to Colombia and to a South American country.
The date for the meeting, to be held in Cartagena, is in the second week of December, between the 11th, 12th and 13th, when the summit of the Pacific Alliance will be held in the capital of Bolívar.
The summit aims to sign the Free Trade Agreement with Singapore and the presidents of Chile, Mexico and Peru are also expected to attend.
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[QUOTE=ClelandJack;2631958]I wonder if you could tell me if you know how I can get a PCR Covid test in Cartagena? You wrote (in a very interesting report) that "Got my PCR test for 220 k. My guide set the test up and they came to my Airbnb."
Thanks in advance.
Cleland.[/QUOTE]Yes, on main strip into Laguito has a big store front advertising Covid testing near Hampton Inn and Burger King.
You can't miss it.
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[QUOTE=Lebyteme;2631612]Bro if you hopped in a taxi without first agreeing on the price then that's all on you.[/QUOTE]You are correct however how often have you been to Cartagena? That wasn't the MO of taxi drivers at the beginning of the year. It was one of the things I respected about Cartagena. They weren't in the hustler mode that you find in other areas.
You didn't have to ask every taxi driver how much it was for a 3 to 5 minute cab ride. Overall Colombian had a standard price for everyone. The Colombians were more about business and less about hustle. In Cartagena the times are changing fast; But that's no excuse for my slipping.
I know now to always have the exact change before I step in the car. I just give them 8 or 10,000 pesos and keep it going.
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[QUOTE=ClelandJack;2631958]I wonder if you could tell me if you know how I can get a PCR Covid test in Cartagena? You wrote (in a very interesting report) that "Got my PCR test for 220 k. My guide set the test up and they came to my Airbnb."
Thanks in advance.
Cleland.[/QUOTE]The airport offer services for Covid tests.
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Change is hard to find now
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2632178]You are correct however how often have you been to Cartagena? That wasn't the MO of taxi drivers at the beginning of the year. It was one of the things I respected about Cartagena. They weren't in the hustler mode that you find in other areas.
You didn't have to ask every taxi driver how much it was for a 3 to 5 minute cab ride. Overall Colombian had a standard price for everyone. The Colombians were more about business and less about hustle. In Cartagena the times are changing fast; But that's no excuse for my slipping.
I know now to always have the exact change before I step in the car. I just give them 8 or 10,000 pesos and keep it going.[/QUOTE]I use to do the same with exact change or close to it and let them keep the coins. However now when changing out at the Cambrios, all the give is 50 mil bills. I've been to many and they don't have anything lower.
On a side note I changed out at 3.8 to $1 this morning, nice exchange rate due to I was haggling to get 3.6 last week.
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[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2631992]
Me personally I am guilty of paying a premium. But on my longer trips I will pay market rate with all options available. On my short trips I will not hassle with time not being on my side and especially if the trip lands on a weekend, even the average girls are willing to gamble.
Let's be real for a minute. What you're offering is hard work for her. She can take 3 days to find one client whose so fucked up he prob won't even get it up. I mean you have to be intoxicated to pay 300 $ without hassling .[/QUOTE]Paying premium price comes back and hunts all of us. Can you imagine trying to offer a chica less when you payed premium for the same services previously?
Let's be real for minute. What you were offering her is 5 to 10 x more than any Colombian would offer her for the same service. Sounds like you're trying to justify your actions of over inflating the market. This is why many other groups hate when Americans come and join the game.
I agree with you the Colombians are not hard on cash like the Dominicans. They are not a culture of bargaining on a DR level. In my experience there, I find the price that they ask you is actually the price they want you to pay. No negotiating. My friends and I have walked away from many chicas in Cartagena refusing to compromise.
I am also guilty. I tip too generously. (I took notes Mr. E) it seems we Americans are always targeted because we have more money than vacation time. We are willing to pay premium prices because we are burning vacation money. We rationalize our actions with all different reasons.
I can't get mad at the girls for taking advantage of this. I can't even get mad at the cabdrivers for wanting to get in on the action. I can’t control what another man pays however; I can check myself and start with the man in the mirror.
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Good point!
This appears to be the best reason for this sudden crackdown in the Plaza Reloj. After all, the City does not want the bad publicity that developed from Obama's secret service detail getting in trouble and creating bad publicity for Cartagena several years ago. It will be interesting to see if after the holidays things revert back to 'normal'.
[QUOTE=NapataJohn;2632117]The president of the United States, Joe Biden, would come to Cartagena in December.
It would be the first official visit that the president would make to Colombia and to a South American country.
The date for the meeting, to be held in Cartagena, is in the second week of December, between the 11th, 12th and 13th, when the summit of the Pacific Alliance will be held in the capital of Bolvar.
The summit aims to sign the Free Trade Agreement with Singapore and the presidents of Chile, Mexico and Peru are also expected to attend.[/QUOTE]
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Normal would be nice!
[QUOTE=Tomasb;2632208]This appears to be the best reason for this sudden crackdown in the Plaza Reloj. After all, the City does not want the bad publicity that developed from Obama's secret service detail getting in trouble and creating bad publicity for Cartagena several years ago. It will be interesting to see if after the holidays things revert back to 'normal'.[/QUOTE]I hope this does blow over. But they've put some strong language in place with the deportation, unwanted persons. The new language about disturbing order in the condos. We shall see.
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[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2632195]Paying premium price comes back and hunts all of us. Can you imagine trying to offer a chica less when you payed premium for the same services previously?
Let's be real for minute. What you were offering her is 5 to 10 x more than any Colombian would offer her for the same service. Sounds like you're trying to justify your actions of over inflating the market. This is why many other groups hate when Americans come and join the game.
I agree with you the Colombians are not hard on cash like the Dominicans. They are not a culture of bargaining on a DR level. In my experience there, I find the price that they ask you is actually the price they want you to pay. No negotiating. My friends and I have walked away from many chicas in Cartagena refusing to compromise.
I am also guilty. I tip too generously. (I took notes Mr. E) it seems we Americans are always targeted because we have more money than vacation time. We are willing to pay premium prices because we are burning vacation money. We rationalize our actions with all different reasons.
I can't get mad at the girls for taking advantage of this. I can't even get mad at the cabdrivers for wanting to get in on the action. I cant control what another man pays however; I can check myself and start with the man in the mirror.[/QUOTE]The mongers on this board make up for less than 5% of the guys who come to pay for play. I simply will have to pay more on the weekends. I simply have been to Colombia too many times to understand the situation. When dealing with independent girls who make their own prices it comes down to if I must have her or not.
We all roll differently.
If it were up to me I would have threads where we can post info on the actual girls.
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[QUOTE=Tomasb;2632208]This appears to be the best reason for this sudden crackdown in the Plaza Reloj. After all, the City does not want the bad publicity that developed from Obama's secret service detail getting in trouble and creating bad publicity for Cartagena several years ago. It will be interesting to see if after the holidays things revert back to 'normal'.[/QUOTE]Best reason for a sudden crackdown? Are they supposed to do a gradual crackdown? Why do you guys think that hookers in someone's town square is the "normal" thing and all the people that live there and normal tourists want to see that shit? They want the shit GONE. And not just gone because someone is coming to town or because there is a special event coming. It is an eyesore that makes the place look bad.
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Excuse me
I call it the normal because it's been like that for years upon years, decades you might say. In fact, if you read Gabriel Garcia Marquez autobiography, you can glean from it that this type of sordid activity was going on when he was a budding journalist living his life on a thread but somehow he still found action and it was probably in the plaza reloj. Give me a break.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2632385]Best reason for a sudden crackdown? Are they supposed to do a gradual crackdown? Why do you guys think that hookers in someone's town square is the "normal" thing and all the people that live there and normal tourists want to see that shit? They want the shit GONE. And not just gone because someone is coming to town or because there is a special event coming. It is an eyesore that makes the place look bad.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2632360] I simply will have to pay more on the weekends. I simply have been to Colombia too many times to understand the situation. When dealing with independent girls who make their own prices it comes down to if I must have her or not.
We all roll differently.
If it were up to me I would have threads where we can post info on the actual girls.[/QUOTE]By all means sir do you. I understand your sentiments however your statement only reinforced what I said earlier about us Americans (Myself included). That individualism way of thinking has made it a sellers market in Cartagena. IMHO That's one of the reasons why it's out of control.
Notice the government of Colombia is only targeting Cartagena. An area I have witnessed with the highest concentration of SWs and Sex tourist. Our way of thinking and conduct it's not in alignment with the normal MO.
I can only imagine how we will conduct ourselves if everyone start going to Bogotá. I give it a good year and the price of a SW will go from 50,000 pesos to 500,000 pesos because we have fat pockets, short time, hard dicks, little regard for The local establish market value and ways of conducting business.
I remember when I was in Cuba with Mr. E, his father and another DR Vet. It was their first trip to Cuba. Once they got settled in; they wanted to know where were the Chicas and what's the establish price. Those Vets pride themselves on staying on code. I took notes.
I think the idea of a tread on individual chicas can be beneficial to many.
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[QUOTE=NapataJohn;2632117]The president of the United States, Joe Biden, would come to Cartagena in December.
It would be the first official visit that the president would make to Colombia and to a South American country.
The date for the meeting, to be held in Cartagena, is in the second week of December, between the 11th, 12th and 13th, when the summit of the Pacific Alliance will be held in the capital of Bolvar.
The summit aims to sign the Free Trade Agreement with Singapore and the presidents of Chile, Mexico and Peru are also expected to attend.[/QUOTE]It makes a lot of sense that they want to clean things up if there is going to be a major international summit there with Biden plus the holidays with the lights and decorations in the plaza. I'm not changing my plan to get there Jan 8 for a week. Anyway I had all the chicas I could handle on my first trip without entering the plaza or bars. Had a recently sprained ankle with limited mobility but I took the trip anyway and just used a local tout with a phone full of photos who sold tours outside my condo building. And they were quality girls with excellent service. Even wifed up with one for 3 days. Yes I know he made a whole 50 mil pesos off the deal twice, the chicas told me, but then I made my own deals with the girls for repeats. He was super a super cool guy and it was worth the service to have him bring them to my condo. I gave him my left over beers and weed when I split. I hope he is around, I still have his number.
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[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2632566]By all means sir do you. I understand your sentiments however your statement only reinforced what I said earlier about us Americans (Myself included). That individualism way of thinking has made it a sellers market in Cartagena. IMHO That's one of the reasons why it's out of control.
Notice the government of Colombia is only targeting Cartagena. An area I have witnessed with the highest concentration of SWs and Sex tourist. Our way of thinking and conduct it's not in alignment with the normal MO.
I can only imagine how we will conduct ourselves if everyone start going to Bogot. I give it a good year and the price of a SW will go from 50,000 pesos to 500,000 pesos because we have fat pockets, short time, hard dicks, little regard for The local establish market value and ways of conducting business.
I remember when I was in Cuba with Mr. E, his father and another DR Vet. It was their first trip to Cuba. Once they got settled in; they wanted to know where were the Chicas and what's the establish price. Those Vets pride themselves on staying on code. I took notes.
I think the idea of a tread on individual chicas can be beneficial to many.[/QUOTE]There is many reasons a thread on chicas is beneficial.
It will help maintain the market price.
For example in Medellin, many girls from Gustos or La Isla can be had for a fraction of what they are seeking on weekends.
But with that said, they will not take that same money on the weekends during prime hours.
They can gamble and most times than not they'll get what they want.
The actual number of mongers on this thread make up for less than 5% of the actual guys who come in.
After all I know for a fact our info with these girls is not discrete. They put us in group chats and boards etc.
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This is something to be aware of
The United States is tightening up on how long before travel you can take your Covid test. It is going from 72 hours to 24 hours.
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/us-cdc-urges-americans-avoid-travel-niger-poland-over-covid-19-2021-11-30/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2632722]There is many reasons a thread on chicas is beneficial.
It will help maintain the market price.
For example in Medellin, many girls from Gustos or La Isla can be had for a fraction of what they are seeking on weekends.
But with that said, they will not take that same money on the weekends during prime hours.
They can gamble and most times than not they'll get what they want.
The actual number of mongers on this thread make up for less than 5% of the actual guys who come in.
After all I know for a fact our info with these girls is not discrete. They put us in group chats and boards etc.[/QUOTE]A thread on chicas won't be much help.
For example the new chicas I encounter usually tells me my price is high because they don't know if I'm going to injure them and they can't work for a few days while they heal. My regular chicas know how to handle it and don't injure themselves and are fine with it and do not over charge me.
At the same time I can say my regular chicas also tell me that they will go with an overweight guy because they usually finish faster and it's easy work. Or they go with a older guy because they usually talk most of their time away and just want company. Or they will go with the guy drinking allot because many time they just pass out and don't even have sex or remember so it's easy work.
So depending on who the monger is, the chica set their price. And it helps if they know you first hand or through a friend. I was that frustrated 800 K La noche monger now I'm the smiling 400 k or I'm walking away monger jajaja.
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Everytime I'm here it raining
Took me 30 minutes to get out of El Laguito yesterday and at 20 K. My first taxi broke down after going through water so I had to get out and take another.
We were out checking out the local eateries when this thunderstorm came out of nowhere for an hour and we had no umbrellas SMH.
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[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2632722]There is many reasons a thread on chicas is beneficial.
It will help maintain the market price.
For example in Medellin, many girls from Gustos or La Isla can be had for a fraction of what they are seeking on weekends.
But with that said, they will not take that same money on the weekends during prime hours.
They can gamble and most times than not they'll get what they want.
The actual number of mongers on this thread make up for less than 5% of the actual guys who come in.
After all I know for a fact our info with these girls is not discrete. They put us in group chats and boards etc.[/QUOTE]Good and let them share thd if the dumbass entitled Anerican posse's don't cool their act out they're going to get kicked off the country and. Banned.
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I think YMMV is a rule not a generalization
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2632566]B
I think the idea of a tread on individual chicas can be beneficial to many.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nypher;2632764]A thread on chicas won't be much help.
.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with Nypher. I think a thread on individual chicas would not be beneficial. Some guys are not good negotiators so the prices they report might be their own fault. Or they just really didn't care etc. Also differences in what guys want makes a difference in how they view said chica. I have seen guys come on here and coplain about chicas that I have gotten good service from and also I have see where the guy has actually treated a girl like shit and gotten a bad experience and then blamed the chica. If a guy has absolutely no social skills and treats the whole thing completely like a business deal then he will get average mechanical service out of a lot of chicas. This is just a few of the many factors that come into play that can change the experience from one monger to the next so I would not trust that an individuals experience would actually be my experience.
I do think if a chica is stealing or completely refuses to do the services agreed to at the agreed price. Then those are things worth reporting.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2632899]a few of the many factors that come into play that can change the experience from one monger to the next so I would not trust that an individuals experience would actually be my experience.
I do think if a chica is stealing or completely refuses to do the services agreed to at the agreed price. Then those are things worth reporting.[/QUOTE]I see your point and I also agree another's individual experience would not actually be my own. However I understand how prior information about an individual is very beneficial.
IMHO If information is shared on an individual chica. It doesn't tell you how she's going to perform with you. However; it can be useful information of the type of chica you're dealing with. That can become beneficial information instead of diving in headfirst. Which information it's beneficial may vary per person, however, more information is almost always good.
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I remember reading a while ago there was a place you can sit where since girl just hangout. It might have been a restaurant on the beach, or a bar. I think the post said girls are there around 1 pm or 2 pm. Anybody know of this place and where it actually is?
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Tomorrow is VAT free day
We looked at TVs and they will be 20% less tomorrow as well as everything else. Malls open tomorrow at 6 AM. They will be a fucking mad house. Stay out of them unless you are looking to buy.
Anybody know where to buy beds in Cartagena that are decent and not a huge ripoff?
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Playa Hollywood Kiosko #4
[QUOTE=UnknownGuy;2633286]I remember reading a while ago there was a place you can sit where since girl just hangout. It might have been a restaurant on the beach, or a bar. I think the post said girls are there around 1 pm or 2 pm. Anybody know of this place and where it actually is?[/QUOTE]Most likely Playa Hollywood Kiosko #4, they are there most days but the picking are slim on this trip. If a monger likes short fat girls with their pants pulled up under their tits or skinny girls with the body of a 9 year boy then it's an all they can eat buffet.
To be honest I'm fishing for new chicas on this trip because many of my chicas already raised enough money to go home for the holidays. I only have a few that are still here working but I just want something new.
Met a sexy one from Santa Marta. Blew my fucking mind. First time I've seen a chica where all the hair on her body was blonde but the hair on her head was brunette all natural and she does all three holes. Got me a new friend.
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New sidewalks!
I love to see this development. They are actually redoing the sidewalks along Centro. And redoing the road too, so as a caution give yourself enough time to get to the airport due to we got stuck in traffic for 30 minutes because everything merged into a single lane where they were fixing the road.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2633342]First time I've seen a chica where all the hair on her body was blonde but the hair on her head was brunette all natural [/QUOTE]LOL. You are supposed to be lying to hoes, not letting them lie to you. That is not all natural. It is common in Brazil and my ex girlfriend did it to me once. You just rub lye all over your body and lay out in the sun. Then after a while you rinse it off and all your hair is blond. So you are just perming your body hair. It burns like shit.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2633344]I love to see this development. They are actually redoing the sidewalks along Centro. And redoing the road too, [/QUOTE]Damn. They really are going all out for Joe Biden's visit. Or it is just for the holidays?
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Lots of hot girls inside the walled city Thursday night
Flew into CTG on Viva, arriving 3 PM, took a 20 K Pesos ($5) to the hotel in Boca Grande, hooked up with a wingman who arrived a few days before and has been hoing hot Tinder dates, rates were 200 K - 300 K Cops ($50-75) for 2 hours. Apparently there are lots of work required to line up Tinder dates.
Weather was hot and humid. I was sweating like a pig. Checked in a 3 - star hotel 1 block form the beach ($36), took a cold shower and ready to do CTG. While smoking in front of the hotel, a few girls approached, speaking in both Spanish and English but they were chunky and very dark, the farm girls types, had no interests so did not ask for rates. Spotted a dozen or so street walkers in Boca Grande day and night time.
After 7 Took a 8000 Cops ($2) cab ride from BocaGrande to the Clock Tower. There lots of tourists on Thursday night, but no girls were seen in front of the walled city or inside the clock plaza. Policia had installed barriers and cleaned up vices inside and outside the tower. My wingman had a date with his CTG GF so he walked me around the walled city. Hot girls in tasteful party dresses were walking among tourists and families on narrow streets inside Walled City, gathering outside bars, La Dolce Vita and Space, most were light-skinned, tall, some pretty and classy like Spanish princesses. They were making eyes contacts, winking and flirting El Capitan was very impressed coming from the gutters of Santa Fe district to high society in CTG hehe. A moto cop was trying to drive the chicas away, flashing his beacon, screaming his siren, but the girls just ignored him. He did it again and again and started to get frustrated. The girls would slowly walked away a few feet then resumed hanging with friends. Girls here are in mid 20's or older, more mature, looked classy with their dresses, no jail baits like in Santa Fe hehe. Stopped to talk to a few hot ones. They wanted 200 K- 300 k Cops ($50-75) for an hour, same as Tinder girls. Got their phones for later arrangements to the hotel.
Went in Club Space, beers 10 K pesos or $2.50. About 50 girls were inside dancing to Salsa, only about 10 guys. Girls looked hungry, constantly making eye contacts, winking, tugging on shirt. I was wearing a pair of jungle short and tank top but just fit right in. Most girls were heavy with thick arms, thick thighs, not my preferred type but all quoted 30 K - 400 K for an hour. I spotted a tall, lanky, pretty girl in a classy dress, half of her body was covered in dense tats, damn. She wanted $100 for an hour. Well, she just has to wait until Mr. Biden's Secret Service agents arrive hehe. She continued to give me eyes all night but I lost the little interest I had.
I saw far many more pretty, classy girls on the streets than in the bars. They did not want to pay cover to go inside. I went out again looking for a girl for the night, but by midnight the most attractive ones had been taken. The wingman wanted to go back to hotel with his girl, so I took a Venezuelan spinner to go for 200 K an hour. In brighter light, she looked typical thick and sturdy farm girl, not the classy urban girl I prefer. Went back out to the street, she said she was hungry and wanted to eat. Got in the room, she again wanted food and beer. I wrapped myself in the towel, walked to my wingman to get her a beer. She came out later giggling.
Back to the room she took off her jeans but left the top on, wanted money first. I showed her the money and said despues but she did not budge. I offered her half first but she declined. By then her hardened attitude and her big butt, thick thighs were grating on me, so I gave her 10 K see for taxi and asked her to leave. She wanted to continue the deal but I had enough. She took the beer and walked out, mumbling.
I looked for the phone but found it had disappeared. When she was dressing to leave, there no room on her body to hide it. I handed her hand bag to her but did not see anything like a phone in it. She had plenty time and opportunities in the room without me so she could have stolen it easily. Lucky she did not take my wallet with lots of cash inside. El Capitan sensed Venezuelan are trickier than Colombian girls. This is the first time he had something stolen in many trips all over the world. Called Policias, 4 arrives on 2 motorbikes. They were serious, took down phone number and tried to locate the phone with Google apps. Had not pic or her phone number to track down, so El Capitan was fucked up his ass by a little Venezuelan in CTG.
Local guys said CTG girls would steal anything. Lock everything away when taking girls to your hotel rooms. Don't trust any of them.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2633585]Flew into CTG on Viva, arriving 3 PM, took a 20 K Pesos ($5) to the hotel in Boca Grande, hooked up with a wingman who arrived a few days before and has been hoing hot Tinder dates, rates were 200 K - 300 K Cops ($50-75) for 2 hours. Apparently there are lots of work required to line up Tinder dates.
Weather was hot and humid. I was sweating like a pig. Checked in a 3 - star hotel 1 block form the beach ($36), took a cold shower and ready to do CTG. While smoking in front of the hotel, a few girls approached, speaking in both Spanish and English but they were chunky and very dark, the farm girls types, had no interests so did not ask for rates. Spotted a dozen or so street walkers in Boca Grande day and night time.
After 7 Took a 8000 Cops ($2) cab ride from BocaGrande to the Clock Tower. There lots of tourists on Thursday night, but no girls were seen in front of the walled city or inside the clock plaza. Policia had installed barriers and cleaned up vices inside and outside the tower. My wingman had a date with his CTG GF so he walked me around the walled city. Hot girls in tasteful party dresses were walking among tourists and families on narrow streets inside Walled City, gathering outside bars, La Dolce Vita and Space, most were light-skinned, tall, some pretty and classy like Spanish princesses...[/QUOTE]Did you happen to step outside Space / Dule around 10 pm - 11 pm last night? Tons of cops and the had the van ready. I don't know if they were doing immigration sweeps or not but I was not going to get fucked again by goin inside then having all the girls run outside. My chica was already in the apartment chilling and I stepped out to see what all the noise was about. Passed by Space / Dolce this morning on the way to eat and saw they had the doors open with caution tape. I thought they were shutting it down but looks like they were cleaning everything from top to bottom. I might pop my head in tonight to saw what up to the door guys but these new weekend price chicas kill my vibe.
As I have learned by watching others, always ask if they have Cedula, no Cedula no entry. When they come, I take a photo of their Cedula and throw it in the cloud, If something happens I can pull the ID from the cloud and say this is the person that was here.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2633545]LOL. You are supposed to be lying to hoes, not letting them lie to you. That is not all natural. It is common in Brazil and my ex girlfriend did it to me once. You just rub lye all over your body and lay out in the sun. Then after a while you rinse it off and all your hair is blond. So you are just perming your body hair. It burns like shit.[/QUOTE]Every day I learn something new. This chica pussy must have been on fire with that lye process because the new growth was blonde down there too.
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A fine Spanish tradition
Cartagena is the most popular beach town in Colombia, sunny, hot and humid, equivalent of Miami South Beach. Lots of rich people as well as poor students come here to play in the ocean.
Thursday night thousands tourists and couples were walking on the stone alley inside the nice, clean, large, upscale, beautiful, and historic Walled City with lots of restaurants and bars.
Many couples, old men walking lovingly hands in hands with some of the nice, clean, classy, most beautiful and sweetest-looking young girls I have seen anywhere, easily half or third their ages. I frequently reject top talents in Hong Kong Club in Tijuana, and I am not exaggerating her. They did not seem embarrassed by large age differences. Man I like this fine tradition and could live that lifestyle with those sweet beauties every day.
The bros should get out of their US sex ghettos and go to CTG to see upper class Colombians and their beautiful girl friends play.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2633641]Every day I learn something new. This chica pussy must have been on fire with that lye process because the new growth was blonde down there too.[/QUOTE]They get used to it. No way I would let anyone pour hot wax on my arm and rip it off, but women get it done to their pussies and assholes and eyebrows and anywhere else repeatedly.
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Here's how this works the girls want the money up front and they also want a hundred bucks, if you really lucky you might get a Venezuelan for less. If you want to be the the big man and not pay upfront, and not pay 100 bucks whatever they are asking to fuck with you till the day you leave. It's really simple you walk around with a big attitude one week and they know you're gone the next week.
Watch what yo drink because you sound like a target for getting drugged. And yes how'd your stuff away because no matter how nice girls are they little thieves too.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2633585]Flew into CTG o
n Viva, arriving 3 PM, took a 20 K Pesos ($5) to the hotel in Boca Grande, hooked up with a wingman who arrived a few days before and has been hoing hot Tinder dates, rates were 200 K - 300 K Cops ($50-75) for 2 hours. Apparently there are lots of work required to line up Tinder dates.
Weather was hot and humid. I was sweating like a pig. Checked in a 3 - star hotel 1 block form the beach ($36), took a cold shower and ready to do CTG. While smoking in front of the hotel, a few girls approached, speaking in both Spanish and English but they were chunky and very dark, the farm girls types, had no interests so did not ask for rates. Spotted a dozen or so street walkers in Boca Grande day and night time.
After 7 Took a 8000 Cops ($2) cab ride from BocaGrande to the Clock Tower. There lots of tourists on Thursday night, but no girls were seen in front of the walled city or inside the clock plaza. Policia had installed barriers and cleaned up vices inside and outside the tower..[/QUOTE]
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Anna de Cartegena Friday night
Took a cab ride from Boca Grande into the Walled City about 6 PM. The distance was about 3 miles but traffic was congested. People were blowing their horns in frustration at every intersection, and the cab driver was a Kamikaze pilot. He was driving in opposite lanes, squeezing into every opening, shouted at other drivers, got out of the cab in road rages. Got to the clock tower alive, gave him 1000 pesos as agreed plus 500 pesos propina for the bad traffic. He thanked us profusely, obviously a deranged guy.
Friday night had lots more people in the clock tower plazas and alley ways, local families in fancy dresses taking pictures, tourists, older local guys with their young and beautiful mistresses as usual. We were early so found only a few WG walking, giving us the winks. Went to dinner at the best-rated cevicheria inside the Walled City. The Mexican combo ceviche was very good and fresh with just a limon marinade. Avoid Colombian severely rich and tasteless mayonnaise and cream marinade which masks all seafood flavor and taste. My wingman ordered a salad. I tried a small sample and found a piece of broken glass in it. Damn. The wingman went ahead and finished it anyway.
Walked around the narrow streets of Walled City. There were many hot, sweet, young girls walking with their families but very few walking or stationary WG, none near La Vita Dolce and Space, unlike Thursday night which had a few dozens near each. Perhaps the moto cop did something to them.
Went out to the main plaza, found 4 girls leaning against the wall, giving us eye, only 1 slim, pretty spinner. Talked to her, got her tel, negotiated 200 K pesos ($50) for an hour. A few locals walked past, knew the nefarious thing we were doing, looked at us with disgust. Took a quick cab ride back to hotel in Boca Grande. She was talking, kissing, groping in the car, a very fun girl with supple.
Body, smooth, soft light skin, 20, half Colombian / Venezuelan with V IDs. Took pics of her and IDs to prevent any mishaps.
Her body was proportional and beautiful, light skin with a few small tats. She was playful, translated that with a propina she would do anything I wanted, which I immediately agreed. She gave me BBBJ then rode me BB. She was tiny and tight, I had difficulties penetrating her in mish and had to use lots of lube. Gave her 300 K pesos ($75), plus 10 K for taxi, for about half hour in bed. She translated that may be I wanted her as a GF and she would love to go to the beach with me. This little girl is smart and sweet.
She was not the classy Spanish princesses I wanted to bag in CTG, but a nice, young, fresh, sweet, fun, pretty alternative to Tinder dates, who tend to be older, heavier and harder to access. Any bro needing her company in CTG should PM me for her tel.
Will walk the Clock tower again tonight in search of my real pretty Spanish Princess.
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Rough meseros at El Muelle seafood restaurant at Boca Grande South tip
El Muelle was recommended as a good Colombian seafood restaurant.
Wingman and I were walking along the beach to the Southern tip. The beach was muddy, water murky, not very attractive, only families with fat, old women, no hot bikinis worthwhile to look at. At the Southern tip, I went into El Muelle restaurant to pee, which had no client at that time. There was no sign of any fee near the banos, but when I walked out, 2 dark, beefy, scowling meseros quickly confronted me with aggressive posture and angry language, demanding 2,000-peso. They said something about a 40,000-peso rental of their beach chairs to use their facilities ect. Before I even said a word, both were leaning over, ready to tackle me if I walked.
I was really pissed off at their extremely crude and aggressive manner over a 25 see fee which was not posted, before I even objected to it. Instead of arguing the legal aspects of the fee, I just gave the stupid bastards their 25 see and avoided having to look at the beasts again. There were a dozen filthy guys lurking nearby who may have abused the environment, but El Muelle's meseros should be smart enough to know how to treat tourists differently than migrants. Comparing to El Muelle's stupid and rough meseros, meseros at Hong Kong club in Tijuana, Mexico act like gentlemen with patience, reasons, good attitudes and respect for their clients.
We had planned to have dinner at El Muelle but decided to cancel. It was not doing much business and had no clients while we were there. I will also post on various travel sites to alert visitors of rude, aggressive and potentially violent meseros at El Muelle.
CTG policias seem very serious and professional. Do report crimes to them.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2633967]Talked to her, got her tel, negotiated 200 K pesos ($50) for an hour. Gave her 300 K pesos ($75), plus 10 K for taxi, for about half hour in bed. She translated that may be I wanted her as a GF and she would love to go to the beach with me. This little girl is smart and sweet.[/QUOTE]She would have to be a total dumbass not to try to bag someone that pays 50% more than they bargained for for half the time they bargained for.
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The propina
Was for her passion with everything bb.
I would give her extra anyway for being a sweet girl.
The same compassion for Venezuelans got me screwed up my asd by the last Vennie.
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Glad to see you took my advice and gave 300k little generosity now and then never hurts and yes girls appreciate it....... As far as a half an hour or whatever it takes who cares I do my thing they leave that's great we're all happy...
Do not report anything to the police they will shake you down just as soon as they will go after anyone you think may have caused you trouble again avoid the police at all costs.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2633975]El Muelle was
recommended as a good Colombian seafood restaurant.
Wingman and I were walking along the beach to the Southern tip. The beach was muddy, water murky, not very attractive, only families with fat, old women, no hot bikinis worthwhile to look at. At the Southern tip, I went into El Muelle restaurant to pee, which had no client at that time. There was no sign of any fee near the banos, but when I walked out, 2 dark, beefy, scowling meseros quickly confronted me with aggressive posture and angry language, demanding 2,000-peso. They said something about a 40,000-peso rental of their beach chairs to use their facilities ect. Before I even said a word, both were leaning over, ready to tackle me if I walked.
I was really pissed off at their extremely crude and aggressive manner over a 25 see fee which was not posted, before I even objected to it. Instead of arguing the legal aspects of the fee, I just gave the stupid bastards their 25 see and avoided having to look at the beasts again. There were a dozen filthy guys lurking nearby who may have abused the environment, but El Muelle's meseros should be smart enough to know how to treat tourists differently than migrants. Comparing to El Muelle's stupid and rough meseros, meseros at Hong Kong club in Tijuana, Mexico act like gentlemen with patience, reasons, good attitudes and respect for their clients..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2633975]Comparing to El Muelle's stupid and rough meseros, meseros at Hong Kong club in Tijuana, Mexico act like gentlemen with patience, reasons, good attitudes and respect for their clients.
[/QUOTE]LOL, 'meseros" at Hong Kong in Tijuana are suave, English-speaking attendants of walking and breathing ATMs from Gringoland. Both types are equally despicable to me, which is why I stopped patronizing HK after 2 visits.
Anyway, you did the right thing. I'd also give them 1 star and write about the experience on Trip Advisor to give that fine establishment a proper motivation to deal with that scum who're surely operating with their tacit permission.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2633585]Flew into CTG on Viva, arriving 3 PM, took a 20 K Pesos ($5) to the hotel in Boca Grande, hooked up with a wingman who arrived a few days before and has been hoing hot Tinder dates, rates were 200 K - 300 K Cops ($50-75) for 2 hours. Apparently there are lots of work required to line up Tinder dates.
Weather was hot and humid. I was sweating like a pig. Checked in a 3 - star hotel 1 block form the beach ($36), took a cold shower and ready to do CTG. While smoking in front of the hotel, a few girls approached, speaking in both Spanish and English but they were chunky and very dark, the farm girls types, had no interests so did not ask for rates. Spotted a dozen or so street walkers in Boca Grande day and night time.
After 7 Took a 8000 Cops ($2) cab ride from BocaGrande to the Clock Tower. There lots of tourists on Thursday night, but no girls were seen in front of the walled city or inside the clock plaza. Policia had installed barriers and cleaned up vices inside and outside the tower. My wingman had a date with his CTG GF so he walked me around the walled city. Hot girls in tasteful party dresses were walking among tourists and families on narrow streets inside Walled City, gathering outside bars, La Dolce Vita and Space, most were light-skinned, tall, some pretty and classy like Spanish princesses. They were making eyes contacts, winking and flirting El Capitan was very impressed coming from the gutters of Santa Fe district to high society in CTG hehe. A moto cop was trying to drive the chicas away, flashing his beacon, screaming his siren, but the girls just ignored him. He did it again and again and started to get frustrated. The girls would slowly walked away a few feet then resumed hanging with friends. Girls here are in mid 20's or older, more mature, looked classy with their dresses, no jail baits like in Santa Fe hehe. Stopped to talk to a few hot ones. They wanted 200 K- 300 k Cops ($50-75) for an hour, same as Tinder girls. Got their phones for later arrangements to the hotel.
Went in Club Space, beers 10 K pesos or $2.50. About 50 girls were inside dancing to Salsa, only about 10 guys. Girls looked hungry, constantly making eye contacts, winking, tugging on shirt. I was wearing a pair of jungle short and tank top but just fit right in. Most girls were heavy with thick arms, thick thighs, not my preferred type but all quoted 30 K - 400 K for an hour. I spotted a tall, lanky, pretty girl in a classy dress, half of her body was covered in dense tats, damn. She wanted $100 for an hour. Well, she just has to wait until Mr. Biden's Secret Service agents arrive hehe. She continued to give me eyes all night but I lost the little interest I had.
I saw far many more pretty, classy girls on the streets than in the bars. They did not want to pay cover to go inside. I went out again looking for a girl for the night, but by midnight the most attractive ones had been taken. The wingman wanted to go back to hotel with his girl, so I took a Venezuelan spinner to go for 200 K an hour. In brighter light, she looked typical thick and sturdy farm girl, not the classy urban girl I prefer. Went back out to the street, she said she was hungry and wanted to eat. Got in the room, she again wanted food and beer. I wrapped myself in the towel, walked to my wingman to get her a beer. She came out later giggling..[/QUOTE]My first girl in Cartagena that I took home from Space, we were both fucked up on coke, weed and lots of shots. Banging all night / morning on my balcony over the ocean.
At one point, I couldn't find my phone and thought I had locked it up with all my valuables in my safe like I always do. Bit I checked and no it was gone.
I couldn't find it and started freaking out because it has very important passwords and personal account info on it. I told her to stay put and started emptying all her stuff and started yelling at her saying if she took it I won't hesitate to fuck her up just because she is a girl and started saying you better hope I fucking find it because it was here when we both entered my place.
She got visibly scared and low and behold as I was in my bedroom looking under everything she said she had found it in the living room which I know was a lie. She had gotten scared and unhid it from wherever she was stashing it because I was in the process of going total coked up physcho mode on her. Banged her one more time out of spite then kicked her out.
Don't let those women play you man. Always lock up your stuff as soon as you walk in, don't let them see your door code, safe code or anything. And NEVER leave your drink or food unattended with them. I don't care how nice they seem.
The only thing most of them respect is fear. I banged so many of them in my 2 months there. Those girls are all pretty hardened out there. It just got empty asf after a while so I met a nice girl on a dating app and wouldn't have traded her for 20 free pro sessions.
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Okay now I'm going to do you guys a favor
this is simply one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever had the pleasure of eating in. Anywhere. They also speak English..... It's just at the edge of Laguito.
Dolce e Salato.
+57 300 3955311.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ad7xEvVJmt2Km4zr6[/URL]
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45 K Cops hop on bus
A few tour buses but the largest is the 2-level red bus with yellow roof.
For 45 K Cops ($11) you can hop on hop off for 2 days at 17 major stops around Walled City and Boca Grande, one every 20 minutes or so from 9 to 6. Including a free guided foot tour of the Walled City.
I rode around all day, went in the Clock Tower, walked 700 ft up the massive Castillo de San Felipe, the largest Spanish fort in South America.
Can reach all major points in Cartagena, bars, casinos ect. Take your GFs out for a tour. In day time no SWs were seen near the Clcok Tower or the surrounding calles. Saw a few SWs on Car 1 and 2 give me eyes, including a few tall and loud trannies. Hehe.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2633967]
Body, smooth, soft light skin, 20, half Colombian / Venezuelan with V IDs. Took pics of her and IDs to prevent any mishaps.
Her body was proportional and beautiful, light skin with a few small tats. She was playful, translated that with a propina she would do anything I wanted, which I immediately agreed. She gave me BBBJ then rode me BB. She was tiny and tight, I had difficulties penetrating her in mish and had to use lots of lube. Gave her 300 K pesos ($75), plus 10 K for taxi, for about half hour in bed. She translated that may be I wanted her as a GF and she would love to go to the beach with me. This little girl is smart and sweet.
She was not the classy Spanish princesses I wanted to bag in CTG, but a nice, young, fresh, sweet, fun, pretty alternative to Tinder dates, who tend to be older, heavier and harder to access. Any bro needing her company in CTG should PM me for her tel.
Will walk the Clock tower again tonight in search of my real pretty Spanish Princess.[/QUOTE]I banged that girl a few weeks ago when I was down there! And yes, I thought she was great, too. .
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Magnum! No Babies!
Total shit show last night.
Went out and tried to find something. Nothing was looking good, ran into 5 chicas I've been with previously but I just wanted something new. Ended up in space and its was weird after weird after weird. First I was just chilling as there were 4 girls in there that I've done business with and just wanted to be by myself when another chica I knew walked in with a red dress. Now I know this girl over charges and watches the clock. , so I gave her the head nod so she keep it moving. Then these AARP members come in ordered a Corona each and this one guy looked like hes on some of those old people meds tries to talk to her via translator app. This is where it took all my power to hold in the laughter. She showed him her price on her phone and he did that old people squint and kept moving the phone forward and back from his face like he needs those old people reading glasses. Once he finally saw the numbers he put a face like he had a heart attack. They were at this for like 30 minutes and every time she shows him her phone with the price he does the same song and dance while I'm there busting out with laughter. Finally looks like they settles on a price, and AARP Hawaiian shirt guy disappears with her leaving they other beer belly AARP guys there just standing around. Enough of this shit, I'm leaving, tried to get into Dolce they tell me no, their closed so I say fuck it let me go into Delirium to get a chica I know exclusively works there. I walk around and its a gauntlet of touts pushing magnum condoms in my face saying "magnum! No babies!" repeatedly like the annoyance of a mosquito in your ear you just can't swat. Finally I made it in and its a shit show. All the 1 up fake ballers are in there and its packed, can't even move through he crowd. I see my shorty but she can't see me so I wait, she comes my way and I ask her if she's busy working and she said no give her 5 minutes, then she disappeared into the crowd never to be seen again. Then I notice what looks to be a 6 month pregnant woman walking around in there with all that hookah smoke SMH. I see my amiga friend and ask her where did her amiga go but she's pissed I'm more interested in her friend than her. So I tell her "look around, theres nothing but black guys here to choose from, take your pick but I'm not it" she got pissed and walked off. I leave the club and outside waiting to see if I see anything and its constant "Magnum! No Babies" in my face. Then finally these 2 guys and a girl walks you to me and starts speaking in spanish and the only thing I could understand was Alquimico so I respond back in Spanish saying I only speak a little Spanish sorry. Then they switched to English and I'm like well ill be. They want to go to Alquimico and its 11 pm so I'm laughing at the thought because that line is crazy to get it. I started to give them directions but half way through I said "fuck it, lets walk and talk" I had nothing else better to do and its nice to talk to another monger. We chit chat a bit on the way there and hes happy there was only 5 people on the line so I tell him it can still be a long wait. There at their destination fist bump and we part ways. I wonder what time they got in?
I'm back over by Space, see more girls I knew but don't want to repeat. So now I'm texting my Dolce chica to see if she's inside. No answer. I start walking back to the apartment when she answer, she's not in Dolce she's in Delirium. I regret to ask her why the fuck is she in that shit hole because her answer was theres no black guys in Dolce and she got some guy to pay her real good for a few hours time but they are still in the club and the clock is running. So I tell her lets go. Now I'm back outside of Delirium waiting and another one of my chicas attempts to go inside when she recognizes me, so I shake my head and ask her why she's going into that shit hole? You can't breathe, hardly move without stepping on someone and is all just a show. She pulls me in and I make a joke about me just being another face here, my only difference is that I'm not trying to fake it looking like a failed down south rapper. She didn't get it but says she's only there because one night there and she don't have to work for the rest of the month. Ok, do you! I'm back outside my chica comes out and I ask her WTF!? And shake my head in disappointment, she smile and say she had the guy pay her for her time up until that point then came out to meet me. (I just don't get it why these guys are paying girls hourly just to sit at a table in the club and drink, they stupidity. SMH).
So now were back at the apartment and we start talking, She know I went in there for another chica earlier because she saw me. So I joke how the hell did you see me I blend in, she points out I'm not like them so I stand out. OK weird but we laugh about it and call it a night.
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Double date with Chilean civies in Cartagena
Friday night wingman and I went to the Cevicheria with highest reviews in the Walled City. He had a salad and a ceviche, drank water. I had a ceviche, drank a beer, tried a portion of his salad and found a broken glass sliver in it. The next day he claimed to have to worst gas problem in his life but I had no problem with my very sensitive stomach. I suspect it was more likely he picked up pathogens from the Tinder girl he bagged a TLN the night before.
Saturday wingman was down, stayed in the hotel. I went on the hop-on bus all day, toured the Walled City, Clock Tower, Castilo de San Felipe, allegedly the largest Spanish fort in South America, climbing 700 feet to the top. Came back 8 PM, wingman was still feeling gas, decided to go to Cilantro Cevicheria on Cr San Martin nearby. Wingman dropped an earth-shaking bomb inside the restaurant so he was still in bad shape, said he was doing that all day. Cilantro had a special 2-4-1 margarita and daiquiri. I had 2 large and strong margaritas and was feeling good after a long day walking and climbing in high heat.
Found 2 young girls drinking daiquiris, smoking outside. Suggested double dates to wingman, went out to make friends with them. They were Chileans, about mid to late 20's, 5'5 130 lbs, nice, fun, pleasant, looked far more lively, feminine, attractive and sexy than wingman's Tinder date the night before. They loved the Salsa music being played, sang after and danced with the music, drinking like fish, already had 3 daquiris each. I offered to buy them more drinks but they declined, ordered more on their own, urging my wingman to drink. They asked our marital status in details, seemed interested. We ordered more daquiris, dancing with them, trading travel stories. They had not traveled much outside Chile, were in Cartagena the first time.
I invited them to dance club which they hesitated and never responded. I invited them to walk out to the beach. The quickly declined, said people suspected they were prostitutes, hated them and policias harassed them. They said they would go to dance club with us but would have to get up early for a boat trip to the island the next morning, so could only go the next night. Too bad, we did not disclosed to them next night we would already be in Medellin pumping hot young girls.
I was told by various Argentinians that Chileans are very suspicious, critical, difficult, may be even abusive, the ghetto types. They were hesitant at my invitation to dance club. Seemed like they would have gone then potentially to our hotel, but the next night would be impossible for us. Got her tel but it's useless. Missed a chance to screw a mean, suspicious, critical Chilean civie bare back. They missed a few earth-shaking Os on vacation all due to the stupid boat trip hehe.
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First rule of mongering always pay.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2634352]Friday night wingman and I went to the Cevicheria with highest reviews in the Walled City. He had a salad and a ceviche, drank water. I had a ceviche, drank a beer, tried a portion of his salad and found a broken glass sliver in it. The next day he claimed to have to worst gas problem in his life but I had no problem with my very sensitive stomach. I suspect it was more likely he picked up pathogens from the Tinder girl he bagged a TLN the night before.
Saturday wingman was down, stayed in the hotel. I went on the hop-on bus all day, toured the Walled City, Clock Tower, Castilo de San Felipe, allegedly the largest Spanish fort in South America, climbing 700 feet to the top. Came back 8 PM, wingman was still feeling gas, decided to go to Cilantro Cevicheria on Cr San Martin nearby. Wingman dropped an earth-shaking bomb inside the restaurant so he was still in bad shape, said he was doing that all day. Cilantro had a special 2-4-1 margarita and daiquiri. I had 2 large and strong margaritas and was feeling good after a long day walking and climbing in high heat...[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2634162]Total shit show last night.
Went out and tried to find something. Nothing was looking good, ran into 5 chicas I've been with previously but I just wanted something new. Ended up in space and its was weird after weird after weird. First I was just chilling as there were 4 girls in there that I've done business with and just wanted to be by myself when another chica I knew walked in with a red dress. Now I know this girl over charges and watches the clock. , so I gave her the head nod so she keep it moving. Then these AARP members come in ordered a Corona each and this one guy looked like hes on some of those old people meds tries to talk to her via translator app. This is where it took all my power to hold in the laughter. She showed him her price on her phone and he did that old people squint and kept moving the phone forward and back from his face like he needs those old people reading glasses. Once he finally saw the numbers he put a face like he had a heart attack. They were at this for like 30 minutes and every time she shows him her phone with the price he does the same song and dance while I'm there busting out with laughter. Finally looks like they settles on a price, and AARP Hawaiian shirt guy disappears with her leaving they other beer belly AARP guys there just standing around. Enough of this shit, I'm leaving, tried to get into Dolce they tell me no, their closed so I say fuck it let me go into Delirium to get a chica I know exclusively works there. I walk around and its a gauntlet of touts pushing magnum condoms in my face saying "magnum! No babies!" repeatedly like the annoyance of a mosquito in your ear you just can't swat. Finally I made it in and its a shit show. All the 1 up fake ballers are in there and its packed, can't even move through he crowd. I see my shorty but she can't see me so I wait, she comes my way and I ask her if she's busy working and she said no give her 5 minutes, then she disappeared into the crowd never to be seen again. Then I notice what looks to be a 6 month pregnant woman walking around in there with all that hookah smoke SMH. I see my amiga friend and ask her where did her amiga go but she's pissed I'm more interested in her friend than her..[/QUOTE]LOL I bet I saw you around a few times. Especially if you frequent space. I got some business going down here in Panama but I miss the OTC drugs there in Cartagena like crazy. Might fly back to see my semi ex GF there and pop some hydros and Lyrica. Am turning into a freak in coke head here.
Cartagena is a strange place. Easy to love it and hate it at the same time. I might pop in Medellin first though. Check that out. These Panama women are crazy strict on first dates. Like its formal asf here. The dating culture. They all want to play this make you wait game shit. Then you got the pros from Colombia of course who overcharge. If we could just get rid of the touts Cartagena would be okay. I seriously want to fuck some of them up. Never despised a select few group of people like them besides Mexican police maybe.
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Tears and tactics
Saturday night I was not in the mood for anyone nonsense.
I was walking around looking for food and found my new annoyance! This damn guy was constant zipping around the narrow streets of the pussy triangle on a pair of scooters like he's doing down hill skiing. On top of that sometimes he also sometimes had 2 other scooters over his shoulder. Almost hit me twice. Decided to get something new and found this cute little thing from Medellin. We get to talking and she seems funny were both laughing. We get to negotiating and she wants 1 million. I start laughing and tell her I'll give her 200 K for a quick and if she's good I'll give her 500 K for the night. She insists on 1 million. Fine, I'm not interested and I start walking away, to which she stops me and say OK 600 is fine. Great, we get back to the apartment and we start drinking and talking some more, she runs out to the pool and start taking her selfies posting stories, etc, I really don't care she's looking cute. Time for sex, she goes and showers and comes out in the towel, I go to shower and come out in a towel as well as a joke to her doing it jajaj. She turns of the lights so I can't see anything, I turn the lights back on and tell her I like to see everything during the activity. A bit of back and forth of the lights being on and she gives in. She takes of her towel and I take of mine then she puts a face like she just found out Santa Claus isn't real, then I noticed where's she's looking. OK, I ask her what's wrong she says its big I tell her no its normal size, but she slaps a condom on it and starts to suck, I'm already turned off by this so after a minute I say lets go. I get on top she starts yelling "duele" OK, I flip her over, she still yelling "duele". OK I tell her to get on top so she can take control and she's doing well for 5 minutes then I feel water drop on me, thinking its sweat I let her do her thing, then I hear her nose sniffle and I take my focus off her tits to look at her face and this chica is in tears. I tell her "stop, I can't do this" she's not enjoying it and I'm not one to have a chica crying during sex, that's just not me. So she hops off and I tell her "get dressed I'll give you half of the agreed amount and you can go" she's still crying using the translator so it takes her a few times for the translator to pick up correctly. She says "she's been with me for 2 hours and I should give her 400 K of the 600 K amount" I tell her "we were only having sex for about 7 minutes, all the other time you were playing by the pool drinking and talking, giving you half the agreed amount when no leche is more than fair" She responds back "give me 400 K or I'm calling the police." Now in all the years in CTG I've never had a chica threaten to call the cops on me. SMH. OK so I tell her toss me my pants, I had just changed $500 so I pull out a fist full of pesos and count out her 400 K and give it to her and go back to sit on the bed trying to figure out what chica can I call at 1 am who will still be available and within proximity. She saw the fist full of pesos, now her attitude changes, she goes from standing by he bedroom door ready to leave to sitting on the bed next to me rubbing me saying "if I can finish in 30 minutes she will stay the night for the remaining 200 K" so I tell her "that would be ideal but your crying and threatened to call the cops on me, the mood is ruined and I already have my Amiga on the way." She sees the picture of my Amiga and says she understands is because she's darker, the darker Colombians can handle it the lighter ones not so much. I call bullshit and tell her my main "Dolce chica is as light as can be and she has never complained". All that took place over the course of 5 minutes when I catch myself to why the fuck am I still talking to this girl who just threatened to call the cops on me, she should have been gone as soon as she said Policia. So I tell her time to go and she still crying saying "sorry she didn't mean to say she would call the cops" So I tell her "what's done is done, you said it, and made 400 K out of it" then I put her out.
5 Minutes later my amiga shows up, happy to see me, she tells me while laughing when she knocked the first time some girl told her to be careful with that gringo because he might hurt her. So I describe the girl I put out and she confirms it was her and we both just start laughing. She ask me what happened I told her the story and she says "Yes, a lot of girls are here in CTG from Medellin trying to earn extra money for the holiday and being dishonest about doing so. She then warns me to only stick with the girls who live in CTG and not just visiting from elsewhere as they are drugging gringos, stealing their money and using police as a way to get money from gringos." AH! Looks like I just learned a lesson. So my amiga tells me its 2 am, she was in the Dulce and didn't have any clients so just give her 50 K for the taxi and what ever else I want in the morning, I know her taxi was only 20 K max to get to Centro but I get it. She gave me 2 pops, woke me up this morning (Sunday) with the usual "me voy". I just pulled out 500 K put a $100 in the middle, folded it up, gave it to her and told her "Feliz navidad" with the intention of not seeing her for the rest of the trip. As usual on our first encounter she counted out the money in front of me, every encounter after that first over 3 years she have never once counted the money I give her, she just tosses it in her bag. Around 2 pm she calls me frantic. She can't find her vaccine paper and wants to know if she left it by me because she really can't go anywhere without it. Surely enough its on the nightstand, why? I have no idea.
I go take a walk, and as soon as I'm getting close to the KFC I see a girl dressed up as a Cowgirl standing outside and I'm thinking when the hell did they change the Colonel to a cow girl? Then as I got closer I realize its a Texas sign hanging and I'm confused as that sign was not there the night before or was it always there and I never noticed? Meh! Keeping it moving to check out what's new with the decorations right outside the walls as things are looking good. Headed over to Getsemeni and notice a huge puddle of water the cars are driving through and didn't remember it raining earlier, ah well back to the apartment after food. I'm staying in tonight (Sunday), My amiga texts me says she will come over and pick it up later so she can work in Dulce. She came over around 3 hours ago and as soon as she came in she said "yo quiero sexo", so I say "gratis, para me" she laughs and say "Si" she didn't even ask about the damn vaccine paper until after we finished, then we started drinking, I asked her if it rained earlier and she said no, so I asked "what's up with that huge ass puddle in front of the clock tower going to Getsementi". She says "its high tide and lots of rain lately, when the sea water rises it comes up through the drains into the streets." Ah, makes sense. Its now a little after 11 pm and she out there in the pool playing around dancing, she's not going to make it to Dolce, I'm also feeling a little sore like several parts of the skin on my shaft was rubbed off during sex but I know she's going to want another round before bed and when we wake up.
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Possibility to bring girls to hotels?
Hello everybody,
I plan to come in Cartagena in Feb. / March for 1 month (for practicing kitesurf in la Boquilla meanwhile getting girls).
I plan to stay at one Airbnb located in the Radisson Hotel in la boquilla (I will not be a client of the hotel, but will rent a Airbnb apartment located on the last floor of the hotel).
I was wondering what is the current situation of the policy of hotels concerning bringing girls at one place since it seems to change quite fast depending on the various political decisions knowing that:
- my hotel will be located in la boquilla and not the centro, maybe it is less strict there?
- I will not really be a customer of the hotel, but still will have to enter through the hotel lobby.
- I don't feel really comfortable asking directly the Airbnb person renting the apartment.
Any information appreciated thanks!
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Deliveries by cabbies
I was waiting for the Hop On bus in front of the McDonalds on San Martin Sunday morning. An old cabbie approached me, kept asking what I wanted, finally asked if I wanted chicas. I said I did not want any but he kept hanging around talking, said he could bring chicas to my hotel for 400 K.
I have seen a few SW on Cr 1 and on San Martin who approached me asking indirectly. They were nowhere near the attractiveness levels I wanted, including a few very dark and loud trannies, so I said I was touring Cartagena all day, not in hotel, not interested, but would like to see what available in local casas. He was hesitant and looked worried, said something to the effect of "mucho problemos con policias."
Our conversation was sketchy as my Translate app was not working, but his fear was showing. Sunday afternoon, El Presidente was flying in to visit Cartagena. Soldiers armed with automatic weapons were posted about 100 feet apart on both sides of the road all along from the airport into downtown. Colombia seems very serious about crimes and security.
The bros may want to try the cabbies if they want chicas delivered. Ask them to shows pics first. I regret missing out the heydays of the Clock Tower crawling with pretty pincessas Espagnole.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2634635]Saturday night I was not in the mood for anyone nonsense.
I was walking around looking for food and found my new annoyance! This damn guy was constant zipping around the narrow streets of the pussy triangle on a pair of scooters like he's doing down hill skiing. On top of that sometimes he also sometimes had 2 other scooters over his shoulder. Almost hit me twice. Decided to get something new and found this cute little thing from Medellin. We get to talking and she seems funny were both laughing. We get to negotiating and she wants 1 million. I start laughing and tell her I'll give her 200 K for a quick and if she's good I'll give her 500 K for the night. She insists on 1 million. Fine, I'm not interested and I start walking away, to which she stops me and say OK 600 is fine. Great, we get back to the apartment and we start drinking and talking some more, she runs out to the pool and start taking her selfies posting stories, etc, I really don't care she's looking cute. Time for sex, she goes and showers and comes out in the towel, I go to shower and come out in a towel as well as a joke to her doing it jajaj. She turns of the lights so I can't see anything, I turn the lights back on and tell her I like to see everything during the activity. A bit of back and forth of the lights being on and she gives in. She takes of her towel and I take of mine then she puts a face like she just found out Santa Claus isn't real, then I noticed where's she's looking. OK, I ask her what's wrong she says its big I tell her no its normal size, but she slaps a condom on it and starts to suck, I'm already turned off by this so after a minute I say lets go. I get on top she starts yelling "duele" OK, I flip her over, she still yelling "duele"..[/QUOTE]I honestly have no clue why you guys are still messing with the pros there. Seems like trouble just waiting to happen. A police shakedown or a drugging. Don't let them take pictures of your place as well man. All they are doing is sending all that to their pimps to size you up to see if you are worth robbing / targeting or not. Thought you knew better. Your friend from dolce even confirmed to you that that chick was aiming for a potential police shakedown from you. Probably because she didn't find a good opportunity to drug you. I bet these girls are flocking in legions there from Medellin and all over and getting cuts from police for shakedown opportunities.
I will be returning, but it will not be for the pros there. Locals resent the hell out of us gringos doing that as well lately especially here towards Christmas. Cartagena has a lot to offer imo. So I can't say I really even blame them. I had so many moments of cringe trying to get obvious looking working girls into my nice Airbnb in front of large groups of local travellers dirty eyeing me up and down Is what it is.
I just saw another retarded youtube video of a gringo walking around with his rent a working girl in Bocagrande like it's some kind of big accomplishment or something. Why do these pathetic youtubers feel the need to show off so much like that?
These youtubers have single handedly destroyed the scene that you guys loved so much there. Will probably be back to normal eventually or maybe not? The covid vaccine mandates to enter certain buildings tells me that a world wide shift is taking place right now.
If I had my choice I would go retire somewhere in Asia maybe a in krabi Thailand but covid is changing that too. I will be on my guard next time in Cartagena though. A lot of those vendors are big trouble waiting to happen and I'm sure a lot of them are scheming ways to get police shakedowns as well with false complaints / lies.
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[QUOTE=Toubz;2634744]Hello everybody,
I plan to come in Cartagena in Feb. / March for 1 month (for practicing kitesurf in la Boquilla meanwhile getting girls).
I plan to stay at one Airbnb located in the Radisson Hotel in la boquilla (I will not be a client of the hotel, but will rent a Airbnb apartment located on the last floor of the hotel).
I was wondering what is the current situation of the policy of hotels concerning bringing girls at one place since it seems to change quite fast depending on the various political decisions knowing that:
- my hotel will be located in la boquilla and not the centro, maybe it is less strict there?
- I will not really be a customer of the hotel, but still will have to enter through the hotel lobby.
- I don't feel really comfortable asking directly the Airbnb person renting the apartment.
Any information appreciated thanks![/QUOTE]It's almost always in the Airbnb house rules section if they allow guests or not. Also if not sure always ask They are trying to just make money and won't be offended.
The strictness with guests thing is a double edge sword. It greatly protects you when they photo copy their IDs so the girl would have repercussions if she drugged or stole from you but can also make things complicated with constant changing rules. I personally think it's worth the safety though of always having a security / front door person.
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[QUOTE=HighOnTravel;2634912]I honestly have no clue why you guys are still messing with the pros there. Seems like trouble just waiting to happen. A police shakedown or a drugging. Don't let them take pictures of your place as well man. All they are doing is sending all that to their pimps to size you up to see if you are worth robbing / targeting or not. Thought you knew better. Your friend from dolce even confirmed to you that that chick was aiming for a potential police shakedown from you. Probably because she didn't find a good opportunity to drug you. I bet these girls are flocking in legions there from Medellin and all over and getting cuts from police for shakedown opportunities.
I will be returning, but it will not be for the pros there. Locals resent the hell out of us gringos doing that as well lately especially here towards Christmas. Cartagena has a lot to offer imo. So I can't say I really even blame them. I had so many moments of cringe trying to get obvious looking working girls into my nice Airbnb in front of large groups of local travellers dirty eyeing me up and down Is what it is.
I just saw another retarded youtube video of a gringo walking around with his rent a working girl in Bocagrande like it's some kind of big accomplishment or something. Why do these pathetic youtubers feel the need to show off so much like that?.[/QUOTE]I think you left by the time I got here. I would have loved to see you in action from a distance jajaja.
As for the chicas setting me up, I'm pretty much safe. I have my usual chicas I can always call but sometimes I just want something new and shiny. My friend was with me as well with his chica so we watch each other backs.
There are allot of families here. I was walking around centro at night and the line for Crapes and Waffles was longer than the line to get into Alchemico. Like fast food really?
The lit up the tree and all the lights look good around the clock tower. I can see why they want the working girls out of there.
I say let them enjoy their fake moment, they are living the "fake it till you make it" lifestyle LOL.
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Ask your host
[QUOTE=Toubz;2634744]Hello everybody,
I plan to come in Cartagena in Feb. / March for 1 month (for practicing kitesurf in la Boquilla meanwhile getting girls).
I plan to stay at one Airbnb located in the Radisson Hotel in la boquilla (I will not be a client of the hotel, but will rent a Airbnb apartment located on the last floor of the hotel).
I was wondering what is the current situation of the policy of hotels concerning bringing girls at one place since it seems to change quite fast depending on the various political decisions knowing that:
- my hotel will be located in la boquilla and not the centro, maybe it is less strict there?
- I will not really be a customer of the hotel, but still will have to enter through the hotel lobby.
- I don't feel really comfortable asking directly the Airbnb person renting the apartment.
Any information appreciated thanks![/QUOTE]Where the hell are you going to get these girls? You are about 4 miles away from Centro and at the opposite end from where most of them live.
It does not matter if you are not a hotel resident, rules are rules and management can change them at any time do to most hotels want families there and not a gringo bringing in girls dressed obviously for street work. All my girls who come to see me know to dress normal and not a street worker in reveling clothing, so basically decent pants and shirt and non high heel shoes. You need to ask your ABB host if visitors allowed, what are the restrictions with visitors, do you have to pay per wristband etc?
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2634159]Okay now I'm going to do you guys a favor
this is simply one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever had the pleasure of eating in. Anywhere. They also speak English..... It's just at the edge of Laguito.
Dolce e Salato.
+57 300 3955311.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ad7xEvVJmt2Km4zr6[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for posting a recommended Restaurant. Always looking for a good place to eat.
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COVID Vaccine required for entry to Colombia
Can anyone confirm this "Colombia will begin to require COVID-19 vaccinations for travel to Colombia starting on December 14 for those 18-years old or older."
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2635036]Where the hell are you going to get these girls? You are about 4 miles away from Centro and at the opposite end from where most of them live.
It does not matter if you are not a hotel resident, rules are rules and management can change them at any time do to most hotels want families there and not a gringo bringing in girls dressed obviously for street work. All my girls who come to see me know to dress normal and not a street worker in reveling clothing, so basically decent pants and shirt and non high heel shoes. You need to ask your ABB host if visitors allowed, what are the restrictions with visitors, do you have to pay per wristband etc?[/QUOTE]Thanks for your answers. Yes I know I am not in the center, but I need to be close to where I do kitesurf otherwise it's fucking hell. Last time I went there it was not a problem for either meeting 'regular girls' with Tinder or 'working girls' (either directly with Tinder and ask them to come to my place, or I just asked their number when I met them in the center to contact them later to ask them to come). It's just a 10 minutes drive.
I asked the three Airbnb I was looking for to stay:
- first answer: 'Se pueden invitar amigos, pero se debe reportar para autorizarlos en la porteria'. I guess the Airbnb is OK and I just have to notice the front door guy?
- second answer: 'Bringing friends is ok, is mostly to protect our guest- there has been incidents in the coast of Colombia that foreigners invite not so good local people to the places where they are staying and it doesn't end up well. You are fine bringing friends. '
- third answer: 'no problem with bringing guest but not parties allowed'.
I am asking because as I understand it there are two layers of 'restrictions', what the airbnb guy says, and possibly what the building policy is (in this case the building is the Radisson hotel).
Thanks for your help!
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[QUOTE=TheCritic;2635069]Thanks for posting a recommended Restaurant. Always looking for a good place to eat.[/QUOTE]I'll try and post a few more as I come across them. But this one is a trip. It feels like the South End of Boston 30 years ago.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2634990]I think you left by the time I got here. I would have loved to see you in action from a distance jajaja.
As for the chicas setting me up, I'm pretty much safe. I have my usual chicas I can always call but sometimes I just want something new and shiny. My friend was with me as well with his chica so we watch each other backs.
There are allot of families here. I was walking around centro at night and the line for Crapes and Waffles was longer than the line to get into Alchemico. Like fast food really?
The lit up the tree and all the lights look good around the clock tower. I can see why they want the working girls out of there.
I say let them enjoy their fake moment, they are living the "fake it till you make it" lifestyle LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah Crepes and waffles is very popular there. The women act like they are going to eat lobster or some shit there haha. That was my go to dinner spot at one point. I would get high asf then stroll over to the one in Boca Grande for a vanilla milkshake whatever random thing on the menu looked appealing and just people watch pretty much every other night for a few weeks. Finally got tired of it though. Their milkshakes are good though.
Colombia's president just said that beginning on December 14th that expats will need to be fully vaccinated to enter. Wtf. I only have seven days or so to try to get back there. Ffs.
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[QUOTE=Toubz;2635268]Thanks for your answers. Yes I know I am not in the center, but I need to be close to where I do kitesurf otherwise it's fucking hell. Last time I went there it was not a problem for either meeting 'regular girls' with Tinder or 'working girls' (either directly with Tinder and ask them to come to my place, or I just asked their number when I met them in the center to contact them later to ask them to come). It's just a 10 minutes drive.
I asked the three Airbnb I was looking for to stay:
- first answer: 'Se pueden invitar amigos, pero se debe reportar para autorizarlos en la porteria'. I guess the Airbnb is OK and I just have to notice the front door guy?
- second answer: 'Bringing friends is ok, is mostly to protect our guest- there has been incidents in the coast of Colombia that foreigners invite not so good local people to the places where they are staying and it doesn't end up well. You are fine bringing friends. '
- third answer: 'no problem with bringing guest but not parties allowed'.
I am asking because as I understand it there are two layers of 'restrictions', what the airbnb guy says, and possibly what the building policy is (in this case the building is the Radisson hotel).
Thanks for your help![/QUOTE]Looks like you're in the clear for visitors. As long as management or security does not pull a fast one on you then you should be fine. I would suggest to advise your visitors to dress normal and not in street worker attire so eyes are not focused on you.
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To echo Nypher, that's a definite yes. Restrictive places will say, "only those originally on the reservation are allowed in absolutely no visitors or guests, etc.". Have fun.
[QUOTE=Toubz;2635268]Thanks for your answers. Yes I know I am not in the center, but I need to be close to where I do kitesurf otherwise it's fucking hell. Last time I went there it was not a problem for either meeting 'regular girls' with Tinder or 'working girls' (either directly with Tinder and ask them to come to my place, or I just asked their number when I met them in the center to contact them later to ask them to come). It's just a 10 minutes drive.
I asked the three Airbnb I was looking for to stay:
- first answer: 'Se pueden invitar amigos, pero se debe reportar para autorizarlos en la porteria'. I guess the Airbnb is OK and I just have to notice the front door guy?
- second answer: 'Bringing friends is ok, is mostly to protect our guest- there has been incidents in the coast of Colombia that foreigners invite not so good local people to the places where they are staying and it doesn't end up well. You are fine bringing friends. '
- third answer: 'no problem with bringing guest but not parties allowed'.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2635402]To echo Nypher, that's a definite yes. Restrictive places will say, "only those originally on the reservation are allowed in absolutely no visitors or guests, etc.". Have fun[/QUOTE]I'm in an airbnb right now. There was nothing in the "house rules", the whole amount was non refundable, and when I got there I was told absolutely no visitors. None.
Fortunately I had registered the one person I actually came here to see as a guest with me. They did eventually let her in, but it was a hassle the first few times. The security guys had to phone the front desk and check the registration. Etc.
I may have been able to dispute it with Airbnb as my payment was made in full and non-refundable before this policy was told to me. But that also might be a long shot as the owner can just say it is to prevent prostitution and it is unlikely that Airbnb is going to side with the customer in that case.
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I've looked through hundreds over the last 4 years, almost every host spells out the policy, but I only stay with superhosts or well reviewed hosts. If the policy is not in the house rules then you have a right to a refund..... The other thing is I always ask a visitors are permitted.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2635405]I'm in an airbnb right now. There was nothing in the "house rules", the whole amount was non refundable, and when I got there I was told absolutely no visitors. None.
Fortunately I had registered the one person I actually came here to see as a guest with me. They did eventually let her in, but it was a hassle the first few times. The security guys had to phone the front desk and check the registration. Etc.
I may have been able to dispute it with Airbnb as my payment was made in full and non-refundable before this policy was told to me. But that also might be a long shot as the owner can just say it is to prevent prostitution and it is unlikely that Airbnb is going to side with the customer in that case.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Zeos1;2635405]I'm in an airbnb right now. There was nothing in the "house rules", the whole amount was non refundable, and when I got there I was told absolutely no visitors. None.
Fortunately I had registered the one person I actually came here to see as a guest with me. They did eventually let her in, but it was a hassle the first few times. The security guys had to phone the front desk and check the registration. Etc.
I may have been able to dispute it with Airbnb as my payment was made in full and non-refundable before this policy was told to me. But that also might be a long shot as the owner can just say it is to prevent prostitution and it is unlikely that Airbnb is going to side with the customer in that case.[/QUOTE]Maybe get a short time hotel for those times. Else the time is gone. Money is secondary right?
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2636047]I've looked through hundreds over the last 4 years, almost every host spells out the policy, but I only stay with superhosts or well reviewed hosts. If the policy is not in the house rules then you have a right to a refund..... The other thing is I always ask a visitors are permitted.[/QUOTE]I just booked an airbnb for Jan. Nothing in the rules about no visitors and 4 guests allowed. Booked it fully refundable, and then started asking questions about visitor and guest policies. At first I got back vague answers so I had to drill down on them as to specifics, hours allowed, when guests have to be registered ect. After several questions finally have it all spelled out in messages in case they switch things up on me. Visitors allowed till 8 and I can register 3 more guests after I check in. Its a 1 bedroom. For a week that will work for me because I have stayed in that building before and like it. Oceanfront modern condos for cheap.
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Interpretation or set in stone?
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2636128] Visitors allowed till 8 and I can register 3 more guests after I check in.[/QUOTE]That's a little tricky as it can be interpreted differently. I've been in the boat where they said no visitors after 10 pm and I thought if I get the chica in before 10 pm they can stay the night, but sure enough security came knocking at 10 pm telling me my visitor must leave and can't dawn on the property.
So does yours translate to you are allowed to bring in visitors up to 8 pm and they can stay the night or your visitors must leave at 8 pm as in you cannot have overnight visitors?
I feel your pain jajaja. Trying to get clear answers from some hosts is like pulling teeth.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2636168]That's a little tricky as it can be interpreted differently. I've been in the boat where they said no visitors after 10 pm and I thought if I get the chica in before 10 pm they can stay the night, but sure enough security came knocking at 10 pm telling me my visitor must leave and can't dawn on the property.
So does yours translate to you are allowed to bring in visitors up to 8 pm and they can stay the night or your visitors must leave at 8 pm as in you cannot have overnight visitors?
I feel your pain jajaja. Trying to get clear answers from some hosts is like pulling teeth.[/QUOTE]No visitors have to leave by 8 but I can pull from the beach, I'm close to Hollywood, during the day and if I like them make them a guest for overnights. I've been reading your excellent reports and must confess I can't handle that much pussy at my age so I will be fine with just the 3 guests and daytime visitors for 1 week. Most of the time I end up doing multiple repeat sessions with just a few chicas on my trips anyway.
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Wrong conclusion
[QUOTE=Kafka;2634848]Your making seriously bad decisions. A cabbie, LOL. That's the funniest one yet. You must have sucker written all over you.[/QUOTE]I don't know how in the world you came to the conclusion that he is a sucker. I know the guy and he is no sucker. I read his post twice and I didn't see how you could have drawn such a faulty conclusion.
Besides, what is the point of saying to a fellow monger "You must have sucker written all over you". Quite useless and impolite.
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Biggest cab drivers in Cartagena are notorious for trying to upcharge -- just read through the last few pages that post to figure that one out? In other words they're not the most dependable sources of anything for a tourist.
[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]. There are lists here of all the casas, beaches where you can find girls in the daytime, night clubs, trusted guides everything. All the information is here and a lot of us have spent time sharing information here......
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2636214]I don't know how in the world you came to the conclusion that he is a sucker. I know the guy and he is no sucker. I read his post twice and I didn't see how you could have drawn such a faulty conclusion.
Besides, what is the point of saying to a fellow monger "You must have sucker written all over you". Quite useless and impolite.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=HighOnTravel;2635325]
Colombia's president just said that beginning on December 14th that expats will need to be fully vaccinated to enter. Wtf. I only have seven days or so to try to get back there. Ffs.[/QUOTE]That's what I'm hearing.
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Trip
Hi All,
I am making my first trip to Cartagena. I prefer to stay at Hilton. Probably they do not allow overnight guests unless me and the girl check in together. Some time ago someone posted names of couple of people who speaks English and can arrange a nice girl to stay with me at least for a couple of days for a fee. I looked at several pages back and could not find.
If anyone who knows these people and can pm me I will appreciate it. I know there are some who rent apartments but I prefer to stay at upscale hotels. Since it is first trip would like to take in the sights as well.
Thanks again.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;2636240]Hi All,
I am making my first trip to Cartagena. I prefer to stay at Hilton. Probably they do not allow overnight guests unless me and the girl check in together. Some time ago someone posted names of couple of people who speaks English and can arrange a nice girl to stay with me at least for a couple of days for a fee. I looked at several pages back and could not find.
If anyone who knows these people and can pm me I will appreciate it. I know there are some who rent apartments but I prefer to stay at upscale hotels. Since it is first trip would like to take in the sights as well.
[/QUOTE]Sammon,
The Hilton is at the end of Bocagrande beach, and I have not stayed there, but I have stayed at other luxury hotels: the Dann Cartagena, the Hyatt, and Ermita which is a Marriott hotel, and the rooms were all pretty much the same. The Hilton, Dann, and Hyatt are all on the beach and the Ermita is not so my question to you is this, which is more important to you: being by the beach or being able to bring in women.
Thing is that guys here have said they have brought women in and out of the Ermita without any issues. From what I remember, I think you could skirt the registration desk and get to your room but my memory could be wrong. Anyway, it is the only place I have read or heard of where you are going to get a luxury hotel room and have women come and go without issue.
If you are going for the beach / ocean life, stay at the Hilton. But if you are going for women, I would cancel and get the Ermita.
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OnFireBoy
[QUOTE=Sammon;2636240]Hi All,
I am making my first trip to Cartagena. I prefer to stay at Hilton. Probably they do not allow overnight guests unless me and the girl check in together. Some time ago someone posted names of couple of people who speaks English and can arrange a nice girl to stay with me at least for a couple of days for a fee. I looked at several pages back and could not find.
If anyone who knows these people and can pm me I will appreciate it. I know there are some who rent apartments but I prefer to stay at upscale hotels. Since it is first trip would like to take in the sights as well.
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]I believe you are looking for OnFireBoy but they have been inactive for some time.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/member.php?655424-OnFireBoy[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Sammon;2636240]Hi All,
I am making my first trip to Cartagena. I prefer to stay at Hilton. Probably they do not allow overnight guests unless me and the girl check in together. Some time ago someone posted names of couple of people who speaks English and can arrange a nice girl to stay with me at least for a couple of days for a fee. I looked at several pages back and could not find.
If anyone who knows these people and can pm me I will appreciate it. I know there are some who rent apartments but I prefer to stay at upscale hotels. Since it is first trip would like to take in the sights as well.
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]Shouldn't be a problem if you got Gold or Diamond HHonors status? Always reserve the room for 2, and when you bring back a chica make sure she has her cedula, a real one. No photocopies. Especially the Venezuelans, make sure they have real ID's or they might not be allowed entry! Luvchicas.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;2636240]Hi All,
I am making my first trip to Cartagena. I prefer to stay at Hilton. Probably they do not allow overnight guests unless me and the girl check in together. Some time ago someone posted names of couple of people who speaks English and can arrange a nice girl to stay with me at least for a couple of days for a fee. I looked at several pages back and could not find.
If anyone who knows these people and can pm me I will appreciate it. I know there are some who rent apartments but I prefer to stay at upscale hotels. Since it is first trip would like to take in the sights as well.
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]The Hilton does not allow you to bring visitors to your room unless, as you say, they were registered as a guest when you check in. One thing is that if you do not have a chica lined up before you get there then just register for a day until you get one lined up then make another registration with the chica on it. You did not say when exactly you are going but I might suggest that the closer it gets to Christmas the harder all this is going to be to do. The Colombians flock to Cartagena for the Christmas holidays and chicas tend to gravitated toward the families and work less around the holidays.
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Cabbies
Cabbies are greedy in any country.
For guys new to any location having only a few days, cabbies are very good resources to find gives. The definitely know where houses are. They have taken me to many excellent local hot spots, advise and watch over me while I indulged.
It's just good business both ways. It make good sense to pay them a little extra to get what you want quickly and cheaply.
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Testing
Hi friends,
Are we still required to be tested before entering Colombia? I'm fully vaxxed, so that's not a problem, but arranging testing is a huge hassle.
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Cartagena
Thanks guys. I am going in February if Philippines does not open up then. Maybe I should book one night first and see how it goes. Ermita looks good as I have good status with Marriott. Do not know if locals care much about it. I can always cancel day before checking in and rebook day before also.
Since it will be first time I would be more of a tourist than mongering. I have had good experiences with Colombians in Costa Rica and Panama. But Cartagena maybe different.
Like everything else personal experiences vary wildly in mongering.
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What do you mean by "We"?
[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2636893]Hi friends,
Are we still required to be tested before entering Colombia? I'm fully vaxxed, so that's not a problem, but arranging testing is a huge hassle.[/QUOTE]No one knows where you are flying from or what country you reside in. It is best to check Colombia official Embassy site regarding COVID to see what information pertains to you and your origin of travel.
Information changes all the time, what is no test today can be something entirely different tomorrow. Check their info and plan accordingly.
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About the vaccination requirement
[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2636893]Hi friends,
Are we still required to be tested before entering Colombia? I'm fully vaxxed, so that's not a problem, but arranging testing is a huge hassle.[/QUOTE]They had not required testing but now I hear that if you are vaccinated you do not need a test but unvaccinated you need a test, you have to fill out the check mig form on the Colombian migrtation website.
[URL]https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf[/URL]
And guys are now saying that you have to prove your vaccinated or get tested so. I am going to research this about the vaccination to see how that's done. But in the mean time I monitor a Blog about the entrance requirements you might want to review the info discussed there.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4155-Colombia-Travel-Coronavirus-Updates/page3[/URL]
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2636953]They had not required testing but now I hear that if you are vaccinated you do not need a test but unvaccinated you need a test, [/QUOTE]I thought they were saying if you are vaccinated you could come. If you are partially vaccinated you could come but need a test. If you are not vaccinated you can not come at all.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2637042]I thought they were saying if you are vaccinated you could come. If you are partially vaccinated you could come but need a test. If you are not vaccinated you can not come at all.[/QUOTE]What you said appears correct. According to the US State Dept travel site, it says no unvaccinated people will be allowed into Colombia. I believe it's going to be enforced at your departure airport so be prepared. Maybe travel insurance might help if you have to cancel.
We won't know for sure until we hear reports from people traveling to Colombia tomorrow.
For non-resident foreign travelers 18 years and older:
Vaccinated non-resident foreign travelers must present proof they have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19 for at least 14 days prior to travel.
If less than 14 days have elapsed or if the vaccination scheme is not complete, the traveler must present a PCR test with a negative result taken within 72 hours of boarding.
Unvaccinated non-resident foreign travelers will not be allowed to enter Colombia.
[URL]https://co.usembassy.gov/health-alert%e2%80%afnew-covid-19-entry-requirements-colombia/[/URL]
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I stand corrected If you have not had at least one shot you cannot come
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2637042]I thought they were saying if you are vaccinated you could come. If you are partially vaccinated you could come but need a test. If you are not vaccinated you can not come at all.[/QUOTE]I stand corrected, thanks for pointing that out. I read it wrong. If you are not vaccinated (at least one shot) you can not come at all.
Here is the exaxct wording.
For non-resident foreign travelers 18 years and older:
Vaccinated non-resident foreign travelers must present proof they have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19 for at least 14 days prior to travel.
If less than 14 days have elapsed or if the vaccination scheme is not complete, the traveler must present a PCR test with a negative result taken within 72 hours of boarding.
Unvaccinated non-resident foreign travelers will not be allowed to enter Colombia.
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Keep your guards up
High on travel is right. Cannot trust any hoes on the road. Always lock up and secure your valuables before letting the girls in the room.
The Venezuelan girl at the clock tower was asking for food and drink in the room. I made the mistake having compassion for the plight of the people in Ven, left her in the room alone for 1 minute, thinking she would not have enough time to go through my clothes, but these thieves are fast. She stole my telephone with all my contacts, travel itineraries and docs, caused me extreme difficulties.
In Medellin within the 30 seconds I was in the toilet to remove her stinky condom, a pretty girl immediately went through my luggage. I caught her red handed; she retreated in fear.
I was on a long trip through a few countries. Lucky I had printed out on paper my ITIN, all flights, hotels confirmations, travel docs ect, otherwise I would have been completely lost and had to cancel the trip.
It's smart and is your right to secure your luggage. You should not trust anyone on the road, especially hookers. You don't have to show hoes courtesies. Keep your guards up or he hoes will make you suffer.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2637279]I read it wrong. If you are not vaccinated (at least one shot) you can not come at all.
Here is the exaxct wording.[/QUOTE]Well the original Spanish version from the health minister was ambiguous. It did not say unvaccinated foreigners could not enter. It only said those without complete vaccination had to have a test.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2637308]Well the original Spanish version from the health minister was ambiguous. It did not say unvaccinated foreigners could not enter. It only said those without complete vaccination had to have a test.[/QUOTE]The real test is to see who is enforcing this. If it's the airlines at the airport, then it's a wrap. No way around it. If it's Colombia when you land, then someone might be able to get thru with just a test. We'll see.
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I'm really sorry that happened to you I'm glad you learned your lesson without being drugged.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2637301]High on travel is right. Cannot trust any hoes on the road. Always lock up and secure your valuables before letting the girls in the room.
The Venezuelan girl at the clock tower was asking for food and drink in the room. I made the mistake having compassion for the plight of the people in Ven, left her in the room alone for 1 minute, thinking she would not have enough time to go through my clothes, but these thieves are fast. She stole my telephone with all my contacts, travel itineraries and docs, caused me extreme difficulties.
In Medellin within the 30 seconds I was in the toilet to remove her stinky condom, a pretty girl immediately went through my luggage. I caught her red handed; she retreated in fear.
I was on a long trip through a few countries. Lucky I had printed out on paper my ITIN, all flights, hotels confirmations, travel docs ect, otherwise I would have been completely lost and had to cancel the trip.
It's smart and is your right to secure your luggage. You should not trust anyone on the road, especially hookers. You don't have to show hoes courtesies. Keep your guards up or he hoes will make you suffer.[/QUOTE]
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All documents for entry to Colombia must be provided at the airport pre-departure.
[QUOTE=UnknownGuy;2637315]The real test is to see who is enforcing this. If it's the airlines at the airport, then it's a wrap. No way around it. If it's Colombia when you land, then someone might be able to get thru with just a test. We'll see.[/QUOTE]According to this article all documents for entry to Colombia must be shown at the airport pre-departure. This makes sense because Colombia does not want to deal with the people who might show up with no vaccine. No test etc.
[URL]https://www.traveloffpath.com/colombia-announces-new-entry-requirements-for-travelers-with-mandatory-vaccine-or-testing/[/URL]
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Stolen once or twice?
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2637301]High on travel is right. Cannot trust any hoes on the road. Always lock up and secure your valuables before letting the girls in the room.
The Venezuelan girl at the clock tower was asking for food and drink in the room. I made the mistake having compassion for the plight of the people in Ven, left her in the room alone for 1 minute, thinking she would not have enough time to go through my clothes, but these thieves are fast. She stole my telephone with all my contacts, travel itineraries and docs, caused me extreme difficulties.
In Medellin within the 30 seconds I was in the toilet to remove her stinky condom, a pretty girl immediately went through my luggage. I caught her red handed; she retreated in fear.
I was on a long trip through a few countries. Lucky I had printed out on paper my ITIN, all flights, hotels confirmations, travel docs ect, otherwise I would have been completely lost and had to cancel the trip.
It's smart and is your right to secure your luggage. You should not trust anyone on the road, especially hookers. You don't have to show hoes courtesies. Keep your guards up or he hoes will make you suffer.[/QUOTE]Whenever I see posts like this or my chicas tell me stories like this happening to other gringos I always ask myself "how the hell did they put themselves in that situation?
Saying High on Travel is right is somewhat vague as I don't know if I can 100% go by the events of someone who seems like they are under the influence of something 99% of the time. Their recollection of an event can be completely different than someone else who was sober jajaja. I Believe its how the monger moves and conduct themselves. I'm also a little confused, are you saying that a chica stole from you that you met in CTG at the clock tower, then another chica stole from you in Medellin meaning you got taken advantage of twice?
When a new chica tells me she's hungry I just open the Rapi app and toss her my phone and tell her "lo que quieras" and they will come back to me with my phone and ask me if its ok to order what they put in check out basket. I'm waiting for the day when I have this "getting stuff stolen from me" experience so I can come on here and post how untrustworthy these chicas are jajaja.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo]You should not trust anyone on the road, especially hookers. You don't have to show hoes courtesies. Keep your guards up or he hoes will make you suffer.[/QOUTE]This is true on both ends, as I've said before, bullshit happens on both sides. For every chica that steals from a monger, the equivalent is the monger who wants to pay a chica less than the agreed price because he didn't like the service. Without trust on both sides we have nothing.
Take it as a learning experience. Don't let new chicas into your room without making sure you have a copy of their ID (Google Drive / iClould) where you can verify who they are when something goes wrong.
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Please use only report
I suggest to keep this forum as a review of the city activities. The thread Colombia general info should be used to inform folks about travel requirement.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2637394]According to this article all documents for entry to Colombia must be shown at the airport pre-departure. This makes sense because Colombia does not want to deal with the people who might show up with no vaccine. No test etc.
[URL]https://www.traveloffpath.com/colombia-announces-new-entry-requirements-for-travelers-with-mandatory-vaccine-or-testing/[/URL][/QUOTE]This is how they did it at JFK. When I went to do bag drop, they wouldn't let me check my bag unless I showed them CheckMIG, then at the gate everyone who didn't check a bag was called up to the gate to verify they all had CheckMIG filled out caused the plane to be delayed because people did not have it filled out. I wouldn't be surprised if they did the same thing for the Vaccine Cards.
But I remember CheckMIG asking if I was vaccinated when I was filling it out, so one would assume if someone chicks that box saying they are not, it should inform them they are not allowed to enter.
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Crackdown
It appears this supposed crackdown was mostly talk.
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[QUOTE=BrotherP;2637407]It appears this supposed crackdown was mostly talk.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I think that Biden conference to promote Democracy (hooo boy) was changed from being in Colombia to being on line.
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Fast thieving girls in CTG and medellin
Nypher.
The Vennie girl from clock tower purposely caused diversion, asking for a beer in the room to steal from me. I should have checked her hand bag before she left.
The Lleras girl had very fishy pussy when she popped, the condom was stinking so bad I had to remove it quickly. Seeing she was putting on her clothes across the bed at the other corner of the room, I ducked quickly in to the toilet for paper to remove the condom. Within a few seconds I ducked out, found her half dressed, moved over to my side of the bed, hovering over my open luggage.
These girls are very fast professional thieves. They elevated my apprehension so high there is no fun fucking them. I would suggest the bros to go to Tijuana where couple hundred hot girls are avail every day within 1 small bar block. I never had anything stolen from me in 30+ year by anyone in Tijuana.
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[QUOTE=BrotherP;2637407]It appears this supposed crackdown was mostly talk.[/QUOTE]Anyone with any experience with the new crackdown? My first impression was that it would be tight around the holidays then go back to normal acceptance soon after. Curious to hear what is being seen on the ground.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2637403]Whenever I see posts like this or my chicas tell me stories like this happening to other gringos I always ask myself "how the hell did they put themselves in that situation?
Saying High on Travel is right is somewhat vague as I don't know if I can 100% go by the events of someone who seems like they are under the influence of something 99% of the time. Their recollection of an event can be completely different than someone else who was sober jajaja. I Believe its how the monger moves and conduct themselves. I'm also a little confused, are you saying that a chica stole from you that you met in CTG at the clock tower, then another chica stole from you in Medellin meaning you got taken advantage of twice?
When a new chica tells me she's hungry I just open the Rapi app and toss her my phone and tell her "lo que quieras" and they will come back to me with my phone and ask me if its ok to order what they put in check out basket. I'm waiting for the day when I have this "getting stuff stolen from me" experience so I can come on here and post how untrustworthy these chicas are jajaja.[QUOTE=CaptainSolo]You should not trust anyone on the road, especially hookers. You don't have to show hoes courtesies. Keep your guards up or he hoes will make you suffer. [/QOUTE]This is true on both ends, as I've said before, bullshit happens on both sides. For every chica that steals from a monger, the equivalent is the monger who wants to pay a chica less than the agreed price because he didn't like the service. Without trust on both sides we have nothing.
Take it as a learning experience. Don't let new chicas into your room without making sure you have a copy of their ID (Google Drive / iClould) where you can verify who they are when something goes wrong.[/QUOTE]I'm very lucent unless obnoxiously drunk. But I don't drink to those levels that often anymore. I always know what's going on and am hyper alert about my surroundings. Why don't you do an experiment and bait a few to see if they will steal or not. You are nothing more than a walking ATM and potential mark to them.
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So like I'm really hoping by Biden not visiting Colombia, that they ease it down on the sex tourism!! Hope you guys can update on this as the month comes to a close. I'm going in January and I really want to experience Cartagena before this whole BS with the clock tower restrictions!
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After you get an instinct for the kind of posts people make on here,. Captain Solo first post was a red flag for me-- and we try to steer people in the right direction and there's a lot of great information on the site but let's face it not everybody is as experienced and people are going to make mistakes. Maybe over and over again?
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[QUOTE=BrotherP;2637407]It appears this supposed crackdown was mostly talk.[/QUOTE]For the holidays and probably mostly about people looking for illegal activity with minors. At the same time people need to be a little more discreet about their behavior otherwise they're all going to suffer.
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Seeking arrangement
Hey guys,
One question about seeking arrangement if somebody has already used it in Colombia. What are girls looking for on this site? Is this just regular prostitute looking for clients or are they looking for somebody more long term (because that's how they advertise the website) ?
Last time I went to Colombia I mostly used Tinder to find girls, but it is a little bit hard to understand whether the girl is a prostitute or just a regular girl so I wanted maybe to give a try with site such as seeking.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2637694]The Lleras girl had very fishy pussy when she popped, [/QUOTE]What does popped mean?
[QUOTE=Captain Solo;2637694]I never had anything stolen from me in 30+ year by anyone in Tijuana.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the real world.
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Nonstop Popping like pop corn
Mr E.
Popped means she got orgasms, may be a series as she kept groaning and gasping.
I felt a compassion for the starving Venezuelans. This cunning WG played on my feelings, said she was hungry, asked for food and beer, and I was stupid for letting down my guard for 1 minute leaving her in the room by herself. The pro thieving WG was super fast, caused me extreme headache on my trip.
No more compassion or courtesy for the rotten putas in the future.
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Smh.
One of my chicas sent me a video of some guys throwing money in the air in the club. I told her "I don't care about Delirium, why are you sending me this" then deleted the video. She responds back hours later "No Delirium, El Dulce el fin de semana". I ask her to send me the video again, and sure enough, the weekend millionaire is standing behind the DJ booth throwing money in the air in Dulce of all places and they blasting Pop Smoke Doir.
I thought Dulce didn't allow things like this to take place in their club because its little to no hiphop crowd in there and its mostly Latin music.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2637694]Nypher.
The Vennie girl from clock tower purposely caused diversion, asking for a beer in the room to steal from me. I should have checked her hand bag before she left.
The Lleras girl had very fishy pussy when she popped, the condom was stinking so bad I had to remove it quickly. Seeing she was putting on her clothes across the bed at the other corner of the room, I ducked quickly in to the toilet for paper to remove the condom. Within a few seconds I ducked out, found her half dressed, moved over to my side of the bed, hovering over my open luggage.
These girls are very fast professional thieves. They elevated my apprehension so high there is no fun fucking them. I would suggest the bros to go to Tijuana where couple hundred hot girls are avail every day within 1 small bar block. I never had anything stolen from me in 30+ year by anyone in Tijuana.[/QUOTE]A monger does not have to always be on guard, just set the initial trust level jajajaj. Chicas are already on guard and opportunistic, but once the tone is set they usually follow through. More reasons why every time I want something new I usually just end up with one of my regulars so I don't have to worry about things going missing or drama. Most of these new chicas coming onto the market are all about the quick bag.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2638075]One of my chicas sent me a video of some guys throwing money in the air in the club. I told her "I don't care about Delirium, why are you sending me this" then deleted the video. She responds back hours later "No Delirium, El Dulce el fin de semana". I ask her to send me the video again, and sure enough, the weekend millionaire is standing behind the DJ booth throwing money in the air in Dulce of all places and they blasting Pop Smoke Doir.
I thought Dulce didn't allow things like this to take place in their club because its little to no hiphop crowd in there and its mostly Latin music.[/QUOTE]Is the video online? I think the clowns have moved from Sosua to CTG. I'm going to spend a couple of days in CTG for some beach time. Would like to know who to avoid, if possible.
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[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2638113]Is the video online? I think the clowns have moved from Sosua to CTG. I'm going to spend a couple of days in CTG for some beach time. Would like to know who to avoid, if possible.[/QUOTE]Don't worry, they not going to be back. They prob the same ones who won't get vaccinated. They won't be allowed back into Colombia so they'll go right back to Sosua to make it rain there.
If you can, post that video somewhere and share it here.
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A few days in Cartagena
My wingman and I spent a few days in Cartagena, and here are some of our observations:
1. We rented a 2-bedroom condo from Juan, in Laguito, for $90 US per night. The condo was all right for our purpose, next to the beach and chica friendly. Some minor inconveniences only.
2. A bit disappointed for the supply of chicas during the day. We had to wait until evenings for some action. We were there for only 3 days, so we were not interested in the chicks we met the night before, nor in the chicks from the beach. At night, we liked the Torre plaza in centro. I picked a chic from there on one night, but we really liked Dulce Vida and Space. We were impressed by the quantity of chics available and the ratio of mongers to chicks. It was very favorable to us. A headache on who to choose but very happy with that problem. Most chicks were asking 300 k cops, some even asking $100 US, but all quickly retreated to the 200/250 K cops. I was surprised how expensive ST hotels were. We were quoted 180 k cops at one hotel close to LDV. Luckily the chicks did not have any problem coming to our apartment.
3. We took a taxi from centro to Pley club, but it was closed. So, we just turned around and went back to centro.
4. Cartagena was crowded, hence it was difficult to move. Way too many cars, traffic very slow around centro. Restaurants were crowded at night. We found a very good sushi restaurant, not too far from LDV, called Maki Sushi. Reasonably priced for a sushi restaurant.
5. We took the hop-on, hop-off city tour during the day. It was hot and humid, and the bus was moving slowly due to heavy traffic. I am not sure if it was worthed.
6. I have read so much about Cartagena taxi drivers being cheaters. We did not experience any of that, unlike our experiences in Medellin.
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Contacts
I am going to Cartagena in March I will be solo and it's my first time. I have done research and been on this forum for the last six months and you guys are extremely helpful. I am going to enjoy the city but will by all means be mongering. I know the stupidness that's been going on to almost ruin the beautiful situation and I have common sense enough to move like somebody should. I just need a trusted contact that can show me the do's and don'ts of the place I understand a fee more than likely is involved and that's cool just want to be safe and enjoy the mongering and do it responsibly. If any one can help me it will be much appreciated.
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I deleted it again out of frustration
[QUOTE=UnknownGuy;2638118]Don't worry, they not going to be back. They prob the same ones who won't get vaccinated. They won't be allowed back into Colombia so they'll go right back to Sosua to make it rain there.
If you can, post that video somewhere and share it here.[/QUOTE]I deleted it again over the frustration of I stopped going to DR because of those clowns and now here they are in CTG dong the same shit. If they were doing it in Delirium I wouldn't care as I rarely go in there but for it to happen in Dulce where most the girls are asking for 800 K after midnight it just makes the girls more entitled. Such as on my last trip when 2 chicas wanted $100 for the hour or 1.1 million pesos for the night and they were both older and average looking, then had the nerve to tell me my 400 K offer was disrespectful to them. SMH.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2631636[/URL]#post2631636.
Links always seem to break when I try to link a previous post but in case it doesn't work its post #12126 on page 9.
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[QUOTE=Lefeu;2638259]We rented a 2-bedroom condo from Juan, in Laguito, for $90 US per night. The condo was all right for our purpose, next to the beach and chica friendly. Some minor inconveniences only.[/QUOTE]What were the minor inconveniences?
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[QUOTE=Lefeu;2638259]My wingman and I spent a few days in Cartagena, and here are some of our observations:.[/QUOTE]If the taxis charged you more than 8 K to get from El Laguito to Centro and vice versa then they got you. How much did you pay?
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Too early
[QUOTE=Atlnightmare;2638273]I am going to Cartagena in March I will be solo and it's my first time. I have done research and been on this forum for the last six months and you guys are extremely helpful. I am going to enjoy the city but will by all means be mongering. I know the stupidness that's been going on to almost ruin the beautiful situation and I have common sense enough to move like somebody should. I just need a trusted contact that can show me the do's and don'ts of the place I understand a fee more than likely is involved and that's cool just want to be safe and enjoy the mongering and do it responsibly. If any one can help me it will be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Its way too early for you to be making plans. At this early in the game I believe the only plans you can make is ABB reservations.
Trying to make connection with chicas in December for March can be a disappointment. I say usually plan 2 weeks in advance out with chicas this way they don't start asking for stuff before you get there like a new fridge, couch, mom is sick etc.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2638504]What were the minor inconveniences?[/QUOTE]1. The elevators were messed up. They had 2 of them but only one was working. However, when going down we could not take it at our floor. We had to walk down 2 floors, to the 10th floor, in order to request the damn elevator. And, we had to explain that to every chick who visited us.
2. The safe did not function properly. The maintenance guy had to come in twice to fix it. By the time he fixed it, we did not feel confident about locking our stuff in there.
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2637796]After you get an instinct for the kind of posts people make on here,. Captain Solo first post was a red flag for me-- and we try to steer people in the right direction and there's a lot of great information on the site but let's face it not everybody is as experienced and people are going to make mistakes. Maybe over and over again?[/QUOTE]I know that's right. Allegedly stolen from in Cartagena and in Medellin making the same mistakes during an alleged encounter. I guess some people don't chica-proof their rooms and accommodations. You would think doing research would mitigate circumstances but obviously it doesn't work with everybody that allegedly has issues.
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Hop on bus
From 9 AM to 6 PM, the 2-story red buses run a scenic round trip from a stop in front of the Clock Tower, around Boca Grande, stops at many spots, including the McDonalds on San Martin, Hilton hotel, San Fernando old fort, with narratives in many languages and a guided tour of the Walled City from the Clock Tower at 4 PM everyday. You can expect a bus every 45 minutes. They have agents waiting at many major stops. These people are laid back. I am pretty sure you can flag it down anywhere along its route, not just at the official stops. Just show them your receipt to get on.
It costs 25 M Cops for 1 and 45 M cops for 21 days. Considering a taxi ride from Boca Grande to the Clock Tower would cost 10 - 15 M Cops, it's a good deal, a slower but more relaxed way to see the sights and learn more about Cartagena besides just eating pussies in the hotel. I took it for 2 days and came back to visit the Walled City and Fort San Fernando both days.
To get some cool air, sit on the lower level. The bus roof was dragging on many electrical / telephone cables and tree branches across many streets. Don't know when something will blow up in Cartagena hehe.
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Wow!
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2638600]From 9 AM to 6 PM, the 2-story red buses run a scenic round trip from a stop in front of the Clock Tower, around Boca Grande, stops at many spots, including the McDonalds on San Martin, Hilton hotel, San Fernando old fort...[/QUOTE]Wow Captain, impressive reporting. So much details. Just would like to add that my wingman and i had initially some trouble identifying where to pick that bus. We ended up picking it at McDonalds on avenida San Martin.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2638524]If the taxis charged you more than 8 K to get from El Laguito to Centro and vice versa then they got you. How much did you pay?[/QUOTE]We paid around that number. I never felt cheated by taxi drivers in Cartagena, but I cannot say the same about Medellin.
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In Cartagena, we had to haggle the fare for every ride, paying 10-15 M cops between Boca grande and the clockmaker tower, depending on traffic.
In Medellin, all my taxi rides were metered, some cheaper than Uber. Taxis are usually old, cramped, crappy, smelly; drivers usually are aggressive and seem psychotic.
Uber cars are usually new the nice, good smelling, drivers older to nice, mellow, polite and more careful. But many times in El Centro, the wait times were long, over 25 minutes. I would have to hop in the nearest taxi and cancel Uber.
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Well, Well Captain!
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2637694]Nypher.
The Vennie girl from clock tower purposely caused diversion, asking for a beer in the room to steal from me. I should have checked her hand bag before she left.
The Lleras girl had very fishy pussy when she popped, the condom was stinking so bad I had to remove it quickly. Seeing she was putting on her clothes across the bed at the other corner of the room, I ducked quickly in to the toilet for paper to remove the condom. Within a few seconds I ducked out, found her half dressed, moved over to my side of the bed, hovering over my open luggage.
These girls are very fast professional thieves. They elevated my apprehension so high there is no fun fucking them. I would suggest the bros to go to Tijuana where couple hundred hot girls are avail every day within 1 small bar block. I never had anything stolen from me in 30+ year by anyone in Tijuana.[/QUOTE]Greetings.
Have not seen you since Tijuana Hong Kong. No Cartagena is nothing like those good Tijuana sweet hearts. Even the SW, Escorts or club chica don't have thieving mind like here and yes fast professional thieves. I have not made it to Tijuana in a bit. They have me working in Colombia I'm here twice a month with time spent between Bogota, Medelland and here still doing that baseball thing. I know you will feel Colombia fast and see how it's put together. Nothing like Tijuana, no Hong Kong Club, pretty SWs, no back alley and the escorts are hit and miss. Have fun.
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The complete opposite of any notion of beauty and grace anywhere in the world
KC Talent.
What baseball thing you have been working on in Colombia?
The first nights in 2 Colombian cities, I had putas steal my Android phones, one was very quick to try to steal from my suitcase. Meanwhile I have been going to Tijuana to consort with bar and street girls, twice some weeks, never had anything stolen or attempted in all 30+ years. The probability of getting mongers' things stolen is more than 10 million to 1 for Colombia over Tijuana.
There is such a thing as beauty is in the eye of the beholders, but you cannot stretch subjective feels for beauty too far, as there is general consensus in the world what make girls / women pretty, beautiful and attractive, proven in the hundreds winners of beauty pageants.
A few guys keep insisting Colombian bar girls, casa girls, street girls are very beautiful, but if they send the alleged beautiful girls of Club La Isla to any beauty pageant, they would be laughed at as crude, ugly, obese, lumpy freaks, the complete opposite of any notion of beauty and grace anywhere in the world.
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Theft
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2639091]The first nights in 2 Colombian cities, I had putas steal my Android phones, one was very quick to try to steal from my suitcase. Meanwhile I have been going to Tijuana to consort with bar and street girls, twice some weeks, never had anything stolen or attempted in all 30+ years. The probability of getting mongers' things stolen is more than 10 million to 1 for Colombia over Tijuana.[/QUOTE]Not if you know what the hell you're doing it isn't. All you have to do is take a few common sense precautions. I have mongered all over the world, including extensively in Colombia, and I have [B]never[/B] had anything of value stolen [B]ever[/B], by a tute or [B]anybody[/B]. One time a tute in Panama City lifted a little bottle of alcohol from the mini-bar, and that's it. In all of my mongering years. The fact that this happened to you establishes that you're really not a seasoned, experienced, international monger (well we already knew that despite any claims to the contrary). No, you're just a guy local to southern California and Tijuana. Nothing wrong with that, and sometimes it's just best to stick with what you know, especially if one's mind isn't open to learning and growth. I just don't think it's cool for you to be trashing other places like Colombia and Panama with reports that, as I noted in another thread, I find to be [B]grossly biased[/B]. Luckily there are enough of us other bros around to make sure that newbies get a much truer and accurate picture. All of us old-timers already know better!
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[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2638538]I know that's right. Allegedly stolen from in Cartagena and in Medellin making the same mistakes during an alleged encounter. I guess some people don't chica-proof their rooms and accommodations. You would think doing research would mitigate circumstances but obviously it doesn't work with everybody that allegedly has issues.[/QUOTE]Something is fishy about these stories and it's not just the pussy. LOL. The post over in Medellin section is entertaining for sure. How much better than the report here.
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Cunning, thieving Colombian putas
The Cane,
I reported factually what happened in Colombia. Quality of girls in Parque Lleras, New Life Casa and La Islas were just so low, they looked more like freaks than girls. It's ridiculous for guys to spend time, pay money for them, put up with the stealing habits and keep hyping it up.
I never had anything stolen from me in 20+ years mongering in many countries in all continents. But in Colombia every time I turned around girls tried to steal from me. Rampant theft is a very serious security problem with Colombian girls. Guys would be in deep shit if they lose their wallets and passports. I put the warnings out to mongers heading to Colombia to be very careful with the thieving putas.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2639516]The Cane,
I reported factually what happened in Colombia. Quality of girls in Parque Lleras, New Life Casa and La Islas were just so low, they looked more like freaks than girls. It's ridiculous for guys to spend time, pay money for them, put up with the stealing habits and keep hyping it up.
I never had anything stolen from me in 20+ years mongering in many countries in all continents. But in Colombia every time I turned around girls tried to steal from me. Rampant theft is a very serious security problem with Colombian girls. Guys would be in deep shit if they lose their wallets and passports. I put the warnings out to mongers heading to Colombia to be very careful with the thieving putas.[/QUOTE]For you to have things stolen for you twice in a single Colombia trip its just funny. Once I would understand (fool me once) but for it to happen to you twice says more on how you were conducting yourself. You're almost on par with Dublin12 and how he was conducting himself out there. Almost on par. Jajajaja.
We keep saying Colombia is not the same as the rest of the mongering places, apples to oranges. We have to move differently, build trust, and know whose who. I pull Venezuelans all the time never had a problem. I had 1 snafu on my last trip and it was handled in 5 minutes, no police needed and nothing went missing.
We can't just pull random chicks from the street and bring them into the apartment without precautions. Even when we do it we always make sure one of us have a girl that we've done business before, and she makes sure the new chica knows what's up.
If you ever decide to go back to Colombia, you have a good bad experience to learn from where you can improve for the next visit.
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Nypher,
The second time I already secured my wallet and phone. That thief Camilla from P Lleras was very quick, in a split second while I ducked into the toilet to remove the stinking condom she had jumped across the room and was rifling through my open luggage like an animal.
I have never had anything stolen or even attempted in Tijuana for 20+ years every weekend.
I have never had anything stolen in any country I have been to, but for 2 Colombian putas in a row to steal from me, that's a big warning flag for the rest of the mongers: just skip Colombia or lock all your shit away and chain any valuables down before letting these professional thieves with stinky pussies into your room to steal, rob or drug your ass hehe.
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Trip
Booked a trip end of January. Booked hotel = Hilton for two people. Searched other hotels but since I am a valued member of Hilton could not pass it up. Reviews are very good. May not be girlfriendly. First trip to see how things go. My plane from Miami lands at 1. 30 pm. Hoping to get a taxi or Uber to take me to a bar. Will try to make arrangements with a girl to see if she wants to be my companion. Money talks I guess. I can always kick her out if things do not go well. All valuables will be locked up. I am well versed with that after many years mongering. If I loose couple of hundred dollars so be it. If I cannot find a girl this trip will be more tourist stuff than mongering. Once I check in I will test girlfriendlyness of the hotel. I am well versed with how I can get bartenders, bell hops, security to turn a blind eye or even they can supply girls.
Maybe take a ride up to Santa Marta. Do not want to line up from dating sites. I like LT prospects personally inspected.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2639516]The Cane,
Quality of girls in Parque Lleras, New Life Casa and La Islas were just so low, they looked more like freaks than girls. It's ridiculous for guys to spend time, pay money for them, put up with the stealing habits and keep hyping it up.
[/QUOTE]No disagreement from me. There are many places to visit in the world. I would move on and go somewhere else. Life is too short to focus on complaining and the negative. Find somewhere that you enjoy.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2639665]Nypher,
The second time I already secured my wallet and phone. That thief Camilla from P Lleras was very quick, in a split second while I ducked into the toilet to remove the stinking condom she had jumped across the room and was rifling through my open luggage like an animal.
I have never had anything stolen or even attempted in Tijuana for 20+ years every weekend.
I have never had anything stolen in any country I have been to, but for 2 Colombian putas in a row to steal from me, that's a big warning flag for the rest of the mongers: just skip Colombia or lock all your shit away and chain any valuables down before letting these professional thieves with stinky pussies into your room to steal, rob or drug your ass hehe.[/QUOTE]I know you got lots of advice how to avoid getting robbed. I had money taken from my pants pocket two times in Philippines. I always carry local currency only. Both times it was on the day girl was leaving after staying with me few days. I had kept the currency out to give it to them. One took 1000 and the other one took 2000 pesos. After I came back from the shower I counted the money to give to the girl. They probably thought I would not notice. In the end they left with the same amount of money I intend to give them. After that I lock up everything in the box even if it is local money. Only take it out when going out.
I had girlfriends in Thailand and China who never touched my money. In fact when we go out I would put money in their purse and they paid all the bills. In Philippines also I had good girls who never touched anything. All other countries nobody ever scammed me.
Two normal girls I met in Atlantic City and had fun with tried to open my safe deposit box messing it up while I was in the shower. They saw me winning lots of money. When confronted they naturally denied it. I kicked them out without giving any money to them. In the end they lost out.
When you get robbed it is your own fault. No need to take it out on the country and women. As you know there are all kinds.
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Very high risks of theft in Colombia
Sammon.
I spent many nights sleeping all nights with girls in Tijuana, China, Hong Kong, Thailand, Manilla and Angeles City, nothing was stolen. There were no indications they wanted or planned to steal. They left impressions and proofs that they were honest girls.
It's obvious both girls in CTG and Medellin intended and planned to steal from the start. I can only conclude that the bros should be warned of very high risks of theft in Colombia.
OTOH giving the girls allowances and let them treat you to whatever local flavors is a very good ideas. Girls in China and Hong Kong took me to some of the best locals' food and entertainment places that costed very little money.
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Hardened pros will always try to steal from you, if you give them an opening, especially Colombian and Venezuelan prepagos. Especially in the big tourist spots. Be careful guys.
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Another drug and rob job in CTG
Dec 5 through Dec 10 I was hanging out with a few wingmen, old timers in Colombia, at P Lleras in Medellin, telling them how my phone was stolen by a Venezuelan girl a few days before in Cartagena.
They left MDE and flew to CTG a few days later, rented a 2-bedroom apartment together. A wingman, very nice, generous guy, invited a girl into his bedroom after midnight. I just heard from the other wingman that he was drugged and robbed of money, phones, lots of valuable stuff.
Apartment management convinced them not to report and prosecute the crime as they feared they would lose their jobs. The wingmen have not reported this very serious security breach anywhere. I only heard what happened to this guy today. I am guessing a lot of other guys got drugged and robbed in Colombia but have not reported them due to various potential personal issues. They are encouraging and helping the crooked, evil putas in Colombia to drug more and steal more with impunity.
The bros are urged to be very careful with the drugging and stealing snakes in Colombia and fight back as hard as they can when victimized.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2640259]Sammon.
I spent many nights sleeping all nights with girls in Tijuana, China, Hong Kong, Thailand, Manilla and Angeles City, nothing was stolen. There were no indications they wanted or planned to steal. They left impressions and proofs that they were honest girls.
It's obvious both girls in CTG and Medellin intended and planned to steal from the start. I can only conclude that the bros should be warned of very high risks of theft in Colombia.
OTOH giving the girls allowances and let them treat you to whatever local flavors is a very good ideas. Girls in China and Hong Kong took me to some of the best locals' food and entertainment places that costed very little money.[/QUOTE]I think you got very unlucky. In contrast, I have been to Colombia twice, had women over for the evening and / or overnight in Bogota, Medellin and Cartagena; I've never had anything stolen. Also on the point around the quality of the women, I think you're either looking in the wrong places or again, you've been really unlucky. Even looking at the photoprepagos website, there are a fair number of very attractive girls to choose from. Try a bit harder in seeking or tinder, there's enough to keep anyone going to months.
Colombia is a fantastic country and there is easy access to some absolutely beautiful women for a very reasonable price and even for free if you play it right. Whilst you're experience wasn't good, I think your opinion of Colombia is in the minority. But to be honest, I prefer it if less visited Colombia.
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[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2640294]Hardened pros will always try to steal from you, if you give them an opening, especially Colombian and Venezuelan prepagos. Especially in the big tourist spots. Be careful guys.[/QUOTE]This is just common sense, and it's true in any country. Be smart and don't give them the opportunity and you should be okay.
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Update on Cartagena, Saturday, December 18th, 2021
Essential update for anyone considering on coming to Cartagena in the next few weeks. You will have to show proof of vaccination to enter Colombia. Unvaccinated non-resident foreign travelers will not be allowed to enter. Arrived last night, expected a big Saturday night party crowd. The police have cracked down on the clock tower scene, very few girls were around in what used to be ground zero for hunting. The scene here has definitely changed from a month ago. The girls that were out on Saturday appeared to be taking a lap around the block walking past the trifecta of prominent nightclubs that are still working, Dolce Vita, Space, and Delirium. The police wouldn't allow the girls to stand outside for almost any length of time and seemed to be constantly running them off. The clubs were still busy and filled with girls. Nightclubs closed at 3 am. There is no shortage of women to be found here. It's just not as easy as it used to be.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;2639824]Booked a trip end of January. Booked hotel = Hilton for two people. Searched other hotels but since I am a valued member of Hilton could not pass it up. Reviews are very good. May not be girlfriendly. First trip to see how things go. My plane from Miami lands at 1. 30 pm. Hoping to get a taxi or Uber to take me to a bar. Will try to make arrangements with a girl to see if she wants to be my companion. Money talks I guess. I can always kick her out if things do not go well. All valuables will be locked up. I am well versed with that after many years mongering. If I loose couple of hundred dollars so be it. If I cannot find a girl this trip will be more tourist stuff than mongering. Once I check in I will test girlfriendlyness of the hotel. I am well versed with how I can get bartenders, bell hops, security to turn a blind eye or even they can supply girls.
Maybe take a ride up to Santa Marta. Do not want to line up from dating sites. I like LT prospects personally inspected.[/QUOTE]Hilton is no problem.
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[QUOTE=UrbanCowboy22;2640453]Essential update for anyone considering on coming to Cartagena in the next few weeks. You will have to show proof of vaccination to enter Colombia. Unvaccinated non-resident foreign travelers will not be allowed to enter. Arrived last night, expected a big Saturday night party crowd. The police have cracked down on the clock tower scene, very few girls were around in what used to be ground zero for hunting. The scene here has definitely changed from a month ago. The girls that were out on Saturday appeared to be taking a lap around the block walking past the trifecta of prominent nightclubs that are still working, Dolce Vita, Space, and Delirium. The police wouldn't allow the girls to stand outside for almost any length of time and seemed to be constantly running them off. The clubs were still busy and filled with girls. Nightclubs closed at 3 am. There is no shortage of women to be found here. It's just not as easy as it used to be.[/QUOTE]The clock tower scene will return after the holidays. The same thing happened last year. Families come from all over to do the touristy Christmas thing in Cartagena. I would say be the middle of Jan, the cops will relax at the tower.
And a good reason I'm booked for the 1st weekend in Feb. All the holiday lights are gone by then and the tower is bustling with chicas. That first weekend in Feb is normally Superbowl weekend and I've been there 2 years straight at that time.
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Hope so
[QUOTE=UnknownGuy;2640524]The clock tower scene will return after the holidays. The same thing happened last year. Families come from all over to do the touristy Christmas thing in Cartagena. I would say be the middle of Jan, the cops will relax at the tower.
And a good reason I'm booked for the 1st weekend in Feb. All the holiday lights are gone by then and the tower is bustling with chicas. That first weekend in Feb is normally Superbowl weekend and I've been there 2 years straight at that time.[/QUOTE]I'm shooting for either Cartagena or Medellin for my birthday for 2 weeks in March. I've been following closely with what's happening in both area's due to the borders being closed in Asia. Every part of me is hoping I still have a chance to meet those 9's and 10's when I visit. Would love to meet some of you guys that helped entertain and teach me about everything that's going if you're there in March. I'll make a UPDATE on what I decide to do in February.
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First time in Cartagena December 22
Figured I would give my first impression of Cartagena. Obviously it's slower during Christmas. Definitely lots of police as previously stated they seem to be corralling the girls away from the families at clock tower. Had drinks in all 3 of the famous clubs. Delirium had A terrible selection seemed like a hangout for 16 year old kids to drink. Space was a little busier but zero talent. Dolce Vita was by far the best with the most selection of quality girls. Unlucky for me I finally went in at 10 pm and the 4 best talent had made their deals and we're heading out the door during my first beer. Will report back tomorrow. Really wish they had a strip club here thought I had heard la Isla was making one a few years ago but have seen no reports of it.
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Strip Club
[QUOTE=ArmnHammer69;2642009]Figured I would give my first impression of Cartagena. Obviously it's slower during Christmas. Definitely lots of police as previously stated they seem to be corralling the girls away from the families at clock tower. Had drinks in all 3 of the famous clubs. Delirium had A terrible selection seemed like a hangout for 16 year old kids to drink. Space was a little busier but zero talent. Dolce Vita was by far the best with the most selection of quality girls. Unlucky for me I finally went in at 10 pm and the 4 best talent had made their deals and we're heading out the door during my first beer. Will report back tomorrow. Really wish they had a strip club here thought I had heard la Isla was making one a few years ago but have seen no reports of it.[/QUOTE]Never understood why guys want to visit strip clubs in monger locations. Fun with a girl back at your room can be had for $50. Why pay money to look at girls on a stage.
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Seeing what's hidden under the clothes is sometimes worth it.
The reason I prefer seeing it in a bikini first is to spot the baby damage etc. Taking a couple girls from gustos and other places and the fantasy was ruined once they took their clothes off it's part of the reason certain girls don't work at a strip club and prefer the pickup bars.
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This will be the mobility in Cartagena for December 31
Hello guys,
I leave you some information for those who plan to spend the new year in Cartagena:
The will be a prohibition of the entry and circulation of vehicles to the Historic Center, from 00:00 hours on Friday, December 31,2021 until 06:00 hours on Saturday, January 1, 2022.
Vehicular circulation is also prohibited in the corridors of Avenida Blas de Lezo, from Avenida Santander and Paseo de Los Mártires, until Carrera 8 B, on December 31,2021, from 8 pm M. Until 12 am M.
Other measures.
Decree 1368 also prohibits the circulation of tourist cars on Friday, December 31,2021.
And vehicular circulation is restricted, including motorcycle and related vehicles, along Blas de Lezo avenue, from Santander avenue and along Paseo de Los Mártires, to Carrera 8 B, from 7 pm. M. December 31,2021 until 3 am M. January 1, 2022.
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[QUOTE=Lebyteme;2642675]Never understood why guys want to visit strip clubs in monger locations. Fun with a girl back at your room can be had for $50. Why pay money to look at girls on a stage.[/QUOTE]Stripper clubs have their advantages, they are much safer than being with a woman on the street, because they will not rob you at the slightest carelessness, another advantage is that they are not so overcrowded and you can have a wide and comfortable space while you talk with The girls, obviously the biggest disadvantage is that they are more expensive and that it is not possible to negotiate a rate, but you are paying for the service they offer you, I have been with several members of the forum in these clubs and they all liked it.
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Yea, I'm here every 2-3 weeks
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2639091]KC Talent.
What baseball thing you have been working on in Colombia?
The first nights in 2 Colombian cities, I had putas steal my Android phones, one was very quick to try to steal from my suitcase. Meanwhile I have been going to Tijuana to consort with bar and street girls, twice some weeks, never had anything stolen or attempted in all 30+ years. The probability of getting mongers' things stolen is more than 10 million to 1 for Colombia over Tijuana.
There is such a thing as beauty is in the eye of the beholders, but you cannot stretch subjective feels for beauty too far, as there is general consensus in the world what make girls / women pretty, beautiful and attractive, proven in the hundreds winners of beauty pageants.
A few guys keep insisting Colombian bar girls, casa girls, street girls are very beautiful, but if they send the alleged beautiful girls of Club La Isla to any beauty pageant, they would be laughed at as crude, ugly, obese, lumpy freaks, the complete opposite of any notion of beauty and grace anywhere in the world.[/QUOTE]Still doing the Baseball thing in Colombian, Bogota mainly but work has me out in most large cities. Hell, someone must do the interviews and file all the paperwork here to get our next great MLB players to the USA with visas to become millionaires in 4-5 years. I will be back in both Medellin and Cartagena around the 5th of January 2022. I too have had a misstep when I was making my first trips to Colombian, I posted it back in August, over my Tijuana old phone that she stole but was caught before she could get out the building with the phone, security lets them out only after I call and said they good, same as when they want to come up to the apartment security must call me. I told her I was going to be nice to her even if she was not nice to me and not send her to jail. I feel it did some good she was so scared crying and lying. Hope to see you in Tijuana in March I owe you a few drinks for all the good information you give while I was coming to my great little get-away from South American.
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[QUOTE=Lebyteme;2642675]Never understood why guys want to visit strip clubs in monger locations. Fun with a girl back at your room can be had for $50. Why pay money to look at girls on a stage.[/QUOTE]
Strippers in strip clubs in Cartagena are hookers - itdyou can take them to a room and have sex with them for a price after they have danced and seduced you from on stage - this is not like strip clubs in the United States where you can barely even touch the girl and you pay girlst to tease - not at all. So it is a nice set up for some guys - say a guy goes to a casa - only thing that happens is they like all the girls up and say "pick one" BUT it is a better than a casa because there are sexy women dancing and maybe one of them moves her hips in a way that turns the guy on - so it adds to his experience to be seduced before he even makes the decision
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[QUOTE=OnFireBoy;2643172]Hello guys,
I leave you some information for those who plan to spend the new year in Cartagena:
The will be a prohibition of the entry and circulation of vehicles to the Historic Center, from 00:00 hours on Friday, December 31,2021 until 06:00 hours on Saturday, January 1, 2022.
Vehicular circulation is also prohibited in the corridors of Avenida Blas de Lezo, from Avenida Santander and Paseo de Los Mrtires, until Carrera 8 B, on December 31,2021, from 8 pm M. Until 12 am M.
Other measures.
Decree 1368 also prohibits the circulation of tourist cars on Friday, December 31,2021.
And vehicular circulation is restricted, including motorcycle and related vehicles, along Blas de Lezo avenue, from Santander avenue and along Paseo de Los Mrtires, to Carrera 8 B, from 7 pm. M. December 31,2021 until 3 am M. January 1, 2022.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the updated information. What can you tell us about the President's crackdown on sex tourism. What types of measures are being taken. Is the Plaza de LOS Coches keeping kept clear of chicas? Have you heard of any tourists getteing sent out of the country for soliciting women?
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2643371]Thank you for the updated information. What can you tell us about the President's crackdown on sex tourism. What types of measures are being taken. Is the Plaza de LOS Coches keeping kept clear of chicas? Have you heard of any tourists getteing sent out of the country for soliciting women?[/QUOTE]December 23 they had immigration officers and camera crews by the clock tower near the girls. As long as you are meeting girls in a club like dolce vita you Should be fine. They are looking for guys with under age girls at the square. They just kept sending them around the bar loop or to hangout in front of dolce vita. Police on every corner. Took a girl from a club without any problems.
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Yes absoutely. Also you get a little bit of chance to interact with them then in that plaza scene. That is really uptight. I'll be back in March to hang out.
[QUOTE=ArmnHammer69;2642845]The reason I prefer seeing it in a bikini first is to spot the baby damage etc. Taking a couple girls from gustos and other places and the fantasy was ruined once they took their clothes off it's part of the reason certain girls don't work at a strip club and prefer the pickup bars.[/QUOTE]
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Yea, I'm here every 2-3 weeks
KCTalent,
Must be very nice to be in that business. You probably have access to lots of hot groupies. Is there anyway I can join your parties?
I suspect lots of guys got drugged and robbed in Colombia without reporting. I would have to raise my alertness against the girls so high it would not be sexy with them.
Let's have a few drinks when you come back to Tijuana. I want to hear your juicy stories in Colombia hehe.
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Hotel Dann Cartagena Upgrade
I arrived yesterday at the Dann Hotel with my Tomboy in tow. I had a reservation for an an Ocean View Room with an king size bed and a Balcony directly over the water. I had sent them E mails requesting a high floor room, they informed me that based on availability they could only give me a room on the 9th floor, but perhaps a higher floor the next day.
I showed them the E mails, and they said how about we give you a Suite with a Balcony on the 9th floor with no upcharge. So I said okay and upon entering the room there was a large living area, a big balcony, and a room with two small twin beds in it. , and an adjacent bathroom. I went back downstairs to reception and said I wanted a room with a king size bed, and they had a puzzled look on their faces, and said there was a room with a king Size bed and had somebody take us back up to the room, and apparently what looked like a closet door was the entry to the Master Bedroom with a bathroom as well. I have always stayed in a higher floor room, about fifty to seventy feet higher, but I actually like the view from the lower level. Also, the former EXITO across the street was converted into a Caruilla Express and better organized.
Having a great day here today, that started with an Ocean swim, some bodysurfing, a morning session, breakfast, a walk thru the Old City, and a walk around the fort on the Hill. Cartagena is growing on me as it is very different than Bogota or Medellin and has much more of a European feel to it with all tourists I suppose, but is still very different. As far as a mongering destination, well it's on the bottom of venues in Colombia as far as I am concerned, but can be lots of fun with someone you get along well with and can chill out with.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2643371]Thank you for the updated information. What can you tell us about the President's crackdown on sex tourism. What types of measures are being taken. Is the Plaza de LOS Coches keeping kept clear of chicas? Have you heard of any tourists getteing sent out of the country for soliciting women?[/QUOTE]Hello friend, first of all, prostitution is not a crime in Colombia at the moment, so no foreigner can be deported for agreeing to pay for sex with a girl, what if it is illegal is sexual exploitation, and most of all it is focused to tourists who contact agencies to have sex with underage children and this is what the president focuses on.
Regarding the clock tower, the controls by the police have been intensified for this end of the year, since it is a critical area where it is also frequented by families including children, so there is a debate as to whether it should be or not to mobilize the girls to a more suitable place, but there is still no final decision in this regard, I suppose that when the end of the year season passes everything will return to normal, but we will see.
The high season continues until mid-January, right now it is somewhat difficult to contact girls due to the end of the year, it is time to be with their families, but from the first week of January things change, and you can find a great variety of girls Even the VIPs that arrive from Medellin and the interior of the country, there are many events, especially electronic music, where you can find this type of girl, but the price is somewhat higher, you can contact me with any questions.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2643371]Thank you for the updated information. What can you tell us about the President's crackdown on sex tourism. What types of measures are being taken. Is the Plaza de LOS Coches keeping kept clear of chicas? Have you heard of any tourists getteing sent out of the country for soliciting women?[/QUOTE]Hello friend,
First of all, prostitution is not a crime in Colombia at the moment, so no foreigner can be deported for agreeing to pay for sex with a girl, what if it is illegal is sexual exploitation, and most of all it is focused to tourists who contact agencies to have sex with underage children and this is what the president focuses on.
Regarding the clock tower, the controls by the police have been intensified for this end of the year, since it is a critical area where it is also frequented by families including children, so there is a debate as to whether it should be or not to mobilize the girls to a more suitable place, but there is still no final decision in this regard, I suppose that when the end of the year season passes everything will return to normal, but we will see.
The high season continues until mid-January, right now it is somewhat difficult to contact girls due to the end of the year, it is time to be with their families, but from the first week of January things change, and you can find a great variety of girls Even the VIPs that arrive from Medellin and the interior of the country, there are many events, especially electronic music, where you can find this type of girl, but the price is somewhat higher, you can contact me with any questions.
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Been here the past week. The Clock Tower is dead. The police are locking it down, so families can walk through and not see the seedy parts. Really the only pick up points are clubs and Tinder right now. Still a decent scene. Headed out tonight. Happy hunting if I see any of why'all. Cheers!
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Clocktower
I think they made a mistake banning the ladies from the Reloj where they could keep an eye on them. Now they are all over El Centro near their clubs and bars and sometimes are a real nuisance when you are walking by. It used to be that you would never see the girls on the streets leading to Plaza Madrid from Reloj. If you were walking there at midnight, it was usually deserted. On my last visit in Mid October, they set up a gauntlet walking back to my hotel. Most of them appear to be scammers, fuglies, and Vennies.
I can handle it but wonder how a normal non mongering tourist feels about it.
[QUOTE=OnFireBoy;2644091]Hello friend,
First of all, prostitution is not a crime in Colombia at the moment, so no foreigner can be deported for agreeing to pay for sex with a girl, what if it is illegal is sexual exploitation, and most of all it is focused to tourists who contact agencies to have sex with underage children and this is what the president focuses on.
Regarding the clock tower, the controls by the police have been intensified for this end of the year, since it is a critical area where it is also frequented by families including children, so there is a debate as to whether it should be or not to mobilize the girls to a more suitable place, but there is still no final decision in this regard, I suppose that when the end of the year season passes everything will return to normal, but we will see.
The high season continues until mid-January, right now it is somewhat difficult to contact girls due to the end of the year, it is time to be with their families, but from the first week of January things change, and you can find a great variety of girls Even the VIPs that arrive from Medellin and the interior of the country, there are many events, especially electronic music, where you can find this type of girl, but the price is somewhat higher, you can contact me with any questions.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Surfer500;2644033]Also, the former EXITO across the street was converted into a Caruilla Express and better organized.[/QUOTE]I was in there early December. The layout fees the same to me from when it was Exito Express. The only difference I noticed was they had all the beers stacked up on the left as soon as you walk in. I still had to end up going to Exito in Centro because they didn't have any small bottled water only the large ones. Also liked they were open late even though the doors are locked. Just tell them what you want through the little window hand them the cash or card and they will pass it through the window. Came in handy one night I needed ice and more coronas. Good store to make quick grabs of things when needed. Sometimes it can be slow even though they are a few check out registers they only usually have 1 open and everyone is waiting on line.
The touts no longer hang out in front of hotel Dan and now moved a little down by the emerald store and directly in front of Poseidon. Hopefully its not raining while you are there, that's a bad area to get out of as that exit street floods real high.
Enjoy your time there.
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[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2644145]Been here the past week. The Clock Tower is dead. The police are locking it down, so families can walk through and not see the seedy parts. Really the only pick up points are clubs and Tinder right now. Still a decent scene. Headed out tonight. Happy hunting if I see any of why'all. Cheers![/QUOTE]Most of the chicas are home with their families and won't be back working until January. Many of the ones I know will be back the second week of January but at least 5 of them posted the same exact message on their whatsapp status, from what I can remember it said "In Cartagena, everything is normal, there are no closures, no Omicron variant, bars close at 3 am, Friends from United States and from around the word come visit us."
I asked one of them why post that message is she not working till next year, she said some of her friends are still working so they posted it for them.
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[QUOTE=Tomasb;2644197]I think they made a mistake banning the ladies from the Reloj where they could keep an eye on them. Now they are all over El Centro near their clubs and bars and sometimes are a real nuisance when you are walking by. It used to be that you would never see the girls on the streets leading to Plaza Madrid from Reloj. If you were walking there at midnight, it was usually deserted. On my last visit in Mid October, they set up a gauntlet walking back to my hotel. Most of them appear to be scammers, fuglies, and Vennies.
I can handle it but wonder how a normal non mongering tourist feels about it.[/QUOTE]All the girls are now walking between Calle 34 to Calle 36 between Carrera 6 and 7. The walk a wide loop. When I was there earlier in December it got annoying because when the chicas try to stand outside Sapce / dulce the cops come down on bikes and force everyone to clear the area, they do not want anyone standing outside. I did find some great ones on Calle 36, when they were waking from Space / Dulce to Delirium.
Will be back soon but will be skipping the Reloj as I find outside the drugstore on Calle 35 give better results.
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Not That Great
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2643505]KCTalent,
Must be very nice to be in that business. You probably have access to lots of hot groupies. Is there anyway I can join your parties?
I suspect lots of guys got drugged and robbed in Colombia without reporting. I would have to raise my alertness against the girls so high it would not be sexy with them.
Let's have a few drinks when you come back to Tijuana. I want to hear your juicy stories in Colombia hehe.[/QUOTE]It used to be great, working all over South American and the Dominican Republic but this is my last year if we don't get into Cuban. I don't do any recruiting or contracts I work the immigration law side. Nothing like back in the day sexy groupies and parties in both Colombian, Costa Rica and Dominican Republic, hell even had all night fuck parties with lots of 9's and 10's but not much of that anymore. Now, all about not spending any money to make big money and what we are getting out of South American is 17- and 18-year-old kids that only finger girls in the car back seats with the mommy close by.
Two years ago, we had a big signing party in Tijuana, it was crazy! Hotel Ticuan even lost its statue of cool as it's known had bad ass Chicas over running the hotel 3 or even 4 up in a room and Hong Kong Club had nude Chicas going next door to Cascadas, all night long.
Yea it would be good to get back to Tijuana, but no more of the 7th floor shit hell I like back alley girls so much and they love to fuck and show it Here, I look for that low key girl that looks nice and act submissive and let them know after I get to my apartment, I need to let security know to let you out and if you take anything or try I will fuck you in the ass if I have not already. Jajaja.
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Confirmation
A quick question for those seasoned Cartagena mongers: is the below link Juan's rentals at the Marinare building?
[URL]http://www.venpro.net/fotosapartamentos/[/URL]
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Cuba
KCTalent.
I have Cuba on my radar for a few years. Want to go and find some sweet, sexy girls before the island is overrun by mongers raining dollar bills.
Let me know if you plan any trip to Cuba.
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One thing Cuban girls are not and that is sweet. Considering that flights from the US are over $1,000 for Miami it's not going to be overrun anytime soon.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2644544]KCTalent.
I have Cuba on my radar for a few years. Want to go and find some sweet, sexy girls before the island is overrun by mongers raining dollar bills.
Let me know if you plan any trip to Cuba.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2644626] Considering that flights from the US are over $1,000 for Miami it's not going to be overrun anytime soon.[/QUOTE]Most men take a flight to Nassau and get a $200 ticket on Cubana airlines to Havana. Tickets can be purchased online at Nash Travel from Ontario or over their phone and picked up at the Cubana ticket counter at the Nassau airport. The US passport is never stamped in Cuba, and the US has no evidence you ever went there.
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[QUOTE=Viastis;2644514]A quick question for those seasoned Cartagena mongers: is the below link Juan's rentals at the Marinare building?
[URL]http://www.venpro.net/fotosapartamentos/[/URL][/QUOTE]I believe it is. My wingman and I stayed in the 1203 building, in Laguito, early this month.
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Pulled Out
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2644544]KCTalent.
I have Cuba on my radar for a few years. Want to go and find some sweet, sexy girls before the island is overrun by mongers raining dollar bills.
Let me know if you plan any trip to Cuba.[/QUOTE]We had just begin to set-up in Cuban and Trump pull us out. We were seeing things in baseball that the USA will not, pitching, hitting and base running many great ballplayers. Now the Chicas, save your money, bring some printed Nike T-shirts or anything with the name Gucci or Chanel and that will get you all the pussy you will want all on your terms. The best way to go is from the Dominican Republic and same way back don't check a bag take some music CDS get the sample little bottles of Dior and Louis Vuitton. I will say it is a very different designation for a monger Chicas not so big on money but willing to take trade over money. Money will not buy things the hot sexy girls want. I will go back as soon as they open it up for business with the USA and yes it will be a while before it gets overrun raining dollars.
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True but not true
[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2644630]Most men take a flight to Nassau and get a $200 ticket on Cubana airlines to Havana. Tickets can be purchased online at Nash Travel from Ontario or over their phone and picked up at the Cubana ticket counter at the Nassau airport. The US passport is never stamped in Cuba, and the US has no evidence you ever went there.[/QUOTE]Yes true about the flights from Nassau I've done it a few times with zero jam up, but if you think the US CUSTOMS in Nassau when you land don't know you we're on that flight arriving from Cuba is not true! They have a printed out itinerary of every passenger on that flight from Cuba when landing, so if they ever wanted to bust your balls they can, I just think they don't give a fuck!
Just take the wrappers off all them excellent cigars you have in your bag and hide them! LOL!
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Cuban girls
Kc Talent.
Appreciate your unique insights about Cuban girls.
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[QUOTE=RacShack;2644690]Yes true about the flights from Nassau I've done it a few times with zero jam up, but if you think the US CUSTOMS in Nassau when you land don't know you we're on that flight arriving from Cuba is not true! They have a printed out itinerary of every passenger on that flight from Cuba when landing, so if they ever wanted to bust your balls they can, I just think they don't give a fuck!
Just take the wrappers off all them excellent cigars you have in your bag and hide them! LOL![/QUOTE]In my dreams, the only time a US guy was detained, according to him, was when he had a copy of Fidor's on Cuba sticking out of his pocket, and that was his 20th trip. It was obvious. And they asked him for his home address. Next he received a letter from the US department of treasury, asking him to pay a $7,500 fine or have an administrative hearing before a Judge. They did not have any administrative Judges to hold hearings. The guy threw the letter away and never heard anything. This was about 10 years ago. I have no recent information, and this is second hand information from the guy who brought the Fedors book back. And these are purely my dreams, I will not admit to anything. Normally the customs officers in Nassau don't have time or care.
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[QUOTE=RacShack;2644690]Just take the wrappers off all them excellent cigars you have in your bag and hide them! LOL![/QUOTE]Usually the cigars can be resold to taxi drivers at the airport for enough to cover the cost of your trip, in my dreams. There are some limits on how many boxes of cigars you can bring in to Nassau, about 2 is the limit.
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That's good to know I've got several professional reasons to be in it Cuba so I'm not that worried about it. Any idea what the flights from Mexico City might cost or how to get them?
[QUOTE=RacShack;2644690]Yes true about the
flights from Nassau I've done it a few times with zero jam up, but if you think the US CUSTOMS in Nassau when you land don't know you we're on that flight arriving from Cuba is not true! They have a printed out itinerary of every passenger on that flight from Cuba when landing, so if they ever wanted to bust your balls they can, I just think they don't give a fuck!
Just take the wrappers off all them excellent cigars you have in your bag and hide them! LOL![/QUOTE]
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Etc.
I flew from Mexico City direct from CTG in late October. I used my United miles and believe it was with Copa Air so don't know the cost for a one way flight but think it only cost 20 k miles.
On a separate note, I was told that the new Omicron variant is spreading quickly in Cartagena and some of the language schools are shutting down in person learning. A harbinger of things to come? Also, Mexico City has cancelled their usually rambunctious NYE firework celebration due to acceleration of Covid19.
[QUOTE=Kafka;2644847]That's good to know I've got several professional reasons to be in it Cuba so I'm not that worried about it. Any idea what the flights from Mexico City might cost or how to get them?[/QUOTE]
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Keeping the posts on the subject of Cartagena
Can we keep the conversation about all things Cartagena please? There are separate forums for other countries. Admin really should look to move the posts about Cuba and Nassau off this page. It's hard enough as it is to navigate to useful information about Cartagena without having to trawl through unrelated posts.
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[QUOTE=Viastis;2644514]A quick question for those seasoned Cartagena mongers: is the below link Juan's rentals at the Marinare building?
[URL]http://www.venpro.net/fotosapartamentos/[/URL][/QUOTE]These apartments are some in different buiuldings the ones that are in Marinare start with "Marin". You also have the page that has been automatically translated into English so for instance the apartments that say "Beach" are in Playa Mar building - "playa" has been translated into "beach" (it is right next door to Marinare) Torres is translted to "towers" etc- although Marinare is still Marin its probably better to take a look at the origninal Spanish(top right of page is a two letters in blue it either says IN for English (Inglés) or ES for Spanish (Español|) to tell which buildings they are in. Since all the buiildings are named in Spanish but the auto translate funciton is translating them to an English form. it can be confusing. I stayed in marin 1004 last trip, nice ocean views, good washer and dryer. Good wifi.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2645043]These apartments are some in different buiuldings the ones that are in Marinare start with "Marin". You also have the page that has been automatically translated into English so for instance the apartments that say "Beach" are in Playa Mar building - "playa" has been translated into "beach" (it is right next door to Marinare) Torres is translted to "towers" etc- although Marinare is still Marin its probably better to take a look at the origninal Spanish(top right of page is a two letters in blue it either says IN for English (Ingls) or ES for Spanish (Espaol|) to tell which buildings they are in. Since all the buiildings are named in Spanish but the auto translate funciton is translating them to an English form. it can be confusing. I stayed in marin 1004 last trip, nice ocean views, good washer and dryer. Good wifi.[/QUOTE]Wonderful, thank you for taking the time to clarify.
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It's doubtful that omicron is going to cause a lot of shutdowns governments around the world are comingto the same conclusion that it's just better to ride this one through. I'm not everybody with a head cold should go out and get a test.
[QUOTE=Tomasb;2644899]I flew from Mexico City direct from CTG in late October. I used my United miles and believe it was with Copa Air so don't know the cost for a one way flight but think it only cost 20 k miles.
On a separate note, I was told that the new Omicron variant is spreading quickly in Cartagena and some of the language schools are shutting down in person learning. A harbinger of things to come? Also, Mexico City has cancelled their usually rambunctious NYE firework celebration due to acceleration of Covid19.[/QUOTE]
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Dam, Another Complaint
[QUOTE=JohnnyWishBone;2645038]Can we keep the conversation about all things Cartagena please? It's hard enough as it is to navigate to useful information about Cartagena without having to trawl through unrelated posts.[/QUOTE]I understand your complaint and I apologize that I mention Cuba. This forum has set-up everything one needs to find information without applying restrictions other than what the admin has list on that page or post. They even put in a good Advanced Search Feature, to be used to find information and if that do not help just ask the question to the forum yourself and I know someone will give you an answer or tell you where you can find what you are looking for. My search of the forum just shows me you had this same complaint in what "2017" The admin does enough to make it easy to find any information you need and should do nothing more here.
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Football
Does anybody know if there is a bar in CTG where you can watch the NFL?
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[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2646505]Does anybody know if there is a bar in CTG where you can watch the NFL?[/QUOTE]This is being reported in the Cartagena expat FB page. Beer station, clock tower pub or the Rio Casino. One poster said the Clock Tower Pub does not turn on the sound just visual. Hard Rock Cafe also mentioned. Keep in mind that this can all be dependent on what kind of soccer games may be going on. If you are in Laguito, one poster said that the Hilton Hotel has a sports bar.
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Ermita question
[QUOTE=WorldWideWes;2627769]Recently stayed at the Ermita Hotel which is about a 5 min walk to the walled city or a 10 k cab ride. The hotel had all the amenities you could ask for. The Gym had everything you could need for a good workout I. E Treadmills, free weights, smith machine, yoga mats, & bicycle. The best part was security was very welcoming to our guests. We were a party of 5 and each night we paraded 5-6 women after hours and they let them right in after taking their info down. The security even wanted to hook me up with a Chica he knew. I'm pretty sure he would have taken a cut of whatever was given. They even helped order pizza / wings around 3 am. Overall the staff is very accommodating.[/QUOTE]Great to know, planning on staying here as well, was there any additional fees for bringing guests? Any registration process / requirement? Or simply no restrictions?
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Registration required
[QUOTE=JohnnyBoyApple;2647000]Great to know, planning on staying here as well, was there any additional fees for bringing guests? Any registration process / requirement? Or simply no restrictions?[/QUOTE]Girl must have ID and they will fill out a form with all of her details at reception. They'll ask you if she is registering for the duration or just the one night. Pretty painless process.
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Clock Tower Pub definitely has games, but you may have to ask the manager. Definitely no sound which I think is better anyway. They will be able to show all the playoff games that's for sure what you may need to ask. As far as the Hilton I was not able to confirm this because I just like the view out of the Clock Tower pub, assuming the girls are back after New Year.
The other thing is that ESPN sports has a lot of the games also on cable so you may be able to get it right in your hotel or Airbnb whatever.
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2646795]This is being reported in the Cartagena expat FB page. Beer station, clock tower pub or the Rio Casino. One poster said the Clock Tower Pub does not turn on the sound just visual. Hard Rock Cafe also mentioned. Keep in mind that this can all be dependent on what kind of soccer games may be going on. If you are in Laguito, one poster said that the Hilton Hotel has a sports bar.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2646505]Does anybody know if there is a bar in CTG where you can watch the NFL?[/QUOTE]I will just toss this out there. I was looking for a way to watch American TV in Colombia. I remembered that the issue with copyright is having the files with shows. As TV signals are beamed through the air, live streams do not have copyright protection. So devices that capture streams is legal, and there is one here. It works as advertised.
The surprising part is this is sold at walmart: [URL]https://www.walmart.com/ip/Octastream-Q1-Pro-Plus-FREE-KEYBOARD-REMOTE-INCLUDED/564178196[/URL].
If you have internet, hdmi cable, and a TV, you can watch any of the US stations by downloading an app on this device called bluTV. I was watching bowl games in Colombia with ESPN, Dexter on Showtime, and have literally every channel there is. So you watch games on the Fox or CBS outlet ETC.
The only downside is I cannot record anything, but I think I can figure out a way to do that. Anyway, it is the best way to bring American TV with you not just to Colombia but anywhere there is internet.
I am not sure if this is available for sale in Colombia but it would be interesting if you can find something like it.
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New girls available
Hello amigos,
For those who are interested, I have new girls available, they are not sex workers but they need money. I also have transportation service and tours, whatever you need please contact me by PM.
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We coming up on a month since the new vaccination law was implemented. Anybody there in cartagena now notice if the gringo monger population appears to be less than normal? Curious if that law has any affect on the number of people flying in to cartagena.
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[QUOTE=OnFireBoy;2648503]Hello amigos,
For those who are interested, I have new girls available, they are not sex workers but they need money. I also have transportation service and tours, whatever you need please contact me by PM.[/QUOTE]Awesome bro thanks for helping and guiding us.
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[QUOTE=OnFireBoy;2648503]Hello amigos,
For those who are interested, I have new girls available, they are not sex workers but they need money. I also have transportation service and tours, whatever you need please contact me by PM.[/QUOTE]I sent you a PM.
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Thanks
[QUOTE=OnFireBoy;2648503]Hello amigos,
For those who are interested, I have new girls available, they are not sex workers but they need money. I also have transportation service and tours, whatever you need please contact me by PM.[/QUOTE]Thanks on fire boy, will try your transportation and tours on next trip, but however I'll not be giving girls any money that won't have sex with me! LOL!
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Ermita Response
[QUOTE=JohnnyBoyApple;2647000]Great to know, planning on staying here as well, was there any additional fees for bringing guests? Any registration process / requirement? Or simply no restrictions?[/QUOTE]No additional fees applied. The receptionist did take their information down when they entered. Hope you enjoy your trip. Also, their is a supermarket about 2 min walk from the hotel. We were able to grab snacks, beer, and water for our stay. The breakfast provided by the hotel is also amazing.
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Chatting with girls from seeking
A chica sent me this from seeking. She wants to bring her and her friend to meet with me.
"You should let us know in Saturday and also the address of you hotel or apartment you don't know so we only make financial agreement per day 300 usd per days."
This is a rip off right? And I should try to negotiate?
Though it is nice that she speaks English.
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Hotel Guest Friendly in Old Tower or Getsemani
Hi,
I planning a holiday to Cartagena and I'm looking for a girl-friendly hotel at any extra cost. I'm interested Old Tower or Getsmani. Can you recommend something?
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1.2 million pesos a day? Jajajaja
[QUOTE=Midnighter99;2650850]A chica sent me this from seeking. She wants to bring her and her friend to meet with me.
"You should let us know in Saturday and also the address of you hotel or apartment you don't know so we only make financial agreement per day 300 usd per days."
This is a rip off right? And I should try to negotiate?
Though it is nice that she speaks English.[/QUOTE]$300 a day is a ripoff but you have to ask what's included. She speaks English and bring a friend? That's an immediate no unless you are also bringing a friend.
1.2 million pesos a day is a complete ripoff unless you are getting tres polvos, oral sin condon chupa y sexo, con anal.
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Are Cartagena girls hotter and more expensive than other cities?
I am a beginner, planning to visit Colombia. I watch bunch of youtube videos already. So one of the video was on the city square or something like that. It seems like Cartagena girls are hotter but they ask for over $100 for short time?
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2651202]$300 a day is a ripoff but you have to ask what's included. She speaks English and bring a friend? That's an immediate no unless you are also bringing a friend.
1.2 million pesos a day is a complete ripoff unless you are getting tres polvos, oral sin condon chupa y sexo, con anal.[/QUOTE]It's actually 600 for the two of them. I haggled them down to 400 for just 12 hours. How much should I expect to pay for girls who look like instagram models? I like the skinny blonde bimbo look and would love to know where to find them.
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[QUOTE=Midnighter99;2650850]A chica sent me this from seeking. She wants to bring her and her friend to meet with me.
"You should let us know in Saturday and also the address of you hotel or apartment you don't know so we only make financial agreement per day 300 usd per days."
This is a rip off right? And I should try to negotiate?
Though it is nice that she speaks English.[/QUOTE]You don't even know who you're talking to when you talk to someone on Facebook and online.
You tell her you make a date it for coffee or something like or make a date on the beach for free, discuss business later.
In the worst case maybe FaceTime I found the biggest mistake you can possibly make is trying to arrange too much before you get into town.
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Good luck to you
[QUOTE=Midnighter99;2651436]It's actually 600 for the two of them. I haggled them down to 400 for just 12 hours. How much should I expect to pay for girls who look like instagram models? I like the skinny blonde bimbo look and would love to know where to find them.[/QUOTE]So you want a plastic doll that usually comes along with the personality of a rock. Walk into Dolce, there are plenty dime a dozen fake ass and tits just standing around waiting to catch a whale that will give them a month salary in one night.
Also as at Kafka pointed out, verify who you are talking to as I made that mistake once and found out I was actually talking to a chulo. Completely blindsided, I go down to security to meet the girl and she's wearing exactly what she had on in the photo I saw, exact image. I go to talk to her and this guy walks in between us and tells me don't talk to her, talk to him. Then he wanted to come up to the apartment, count out the money then tells her 1 hour then leaves. It was the worst robotic clock watching experience ever. As soon as the hour was up he starts blowing up my phone telling me to send her down.
Don't make my mistake.
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[QUOTE=Midnighter99;2651436]How much should I expect to pay for girls who look like instagram models?[/QUOTE]You mean a chick that puts on makeup and knows how to take a fancy picture?
I remember being in Havana and seeing the front of this marvelous building that is the most photographed one in the country. Then I walked around the back and was like what the fuck. The "real" building is nothing like the part that people take pictures of and show all over the internet. Be careful bidding a price for that building based on what all those pictures of the front look like.
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Colombia vs Brazil
Hi guys,
I am debating between my visit to Brazil (SP and Rio) vs Columbia (Cartagena and Medellin)? Folks who been to both can help which one is better. It is obout but what I am looking for is young hotties to bang (without condom if chica is hot as fire).
Columbia is going to be 9 hours flight for Vs. Brazil is going to be 16 hours flight so that's the only reservation I have. I am looking to stay for 7-8 days regardless where I go.
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Tan Majal
Yes, it's the same when you go behind the Taj Majal.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2651520]You mean a chick that puts on makeup and knows how to take a fancy picture?
I remember being in Havana and seeing the front of this marvelous building that is the most photographed one in the country. Then I walked around the back and was like what the fuck. The "real" building is nothing like the part that people take pictures of and show all over the internet. Be careful bidding a price for that building based on what all those pictures of the front look like.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2651575]Hi guys,
I am debating between my visit to Brazil (SP and Rio) vs Columbia (Cartagena and Medellin)? Folks who been to both can help which one is better. It is obout but what I am looking for is young hotties to bang (without condom if chica is hot as fire).
Columbia is going to be 9 hours flight for Vs. Brazil is going to be 16 hours flight so that's the only reservation I have. I am looking to stay for 7-8 days regardless where I go.[/QUOTE]The equivllivant to your question is:
I'm debating which supermarket to visit but what I'm looking for is fresh fruit to eat (without washing it off first if the fruit looks good). See how vague that question is because no one know what type of fruit you are looking for.
So in regard to "hotties" what do you consider hot so people can suggest something more to your preference? Light / dark, tall / short, skinny / fat, fake tits, ass / natural?
Do you see where this is going?
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Colombia for sure
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2651575]Hi guys,
I am debating between my visit to Brazil (SP and Rio) vs Columbia (Cartagena and Medellin)? Folks who been to both can help which one is better. It is obout but what I am looking for is young hotties to bang (without condom if chica is hot as fire).
Columbia is going to be 9 hours flight for Vs. Brazil is going to be 16 hours flight so that's the only reservation I have. I am looking to stay for 7-8 days regardless where I go.[/QUOTE]BBFS is extremely difficult to get in Brazil.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2651750]The equivllivant to your question is:
I'm debating which supermarket to visit but what I'm looking for is fresh fruit to eat (without washing it off first if the fruit looks good). See how vague that question is because no one know what type of fruit you are looking for.
So in regard to "hotties" what do you consider hot so people can suggest something more to your preference? Light / dark, tall / short, skinny / fat, fake tits, ass / natural?
Do you see where this is going?[/QUOTE]Aah please pardon my noob ness. I am learning. Thank you for asking me to clarify and I agree with you.
What I am looking for is:
Light skin, tall, skinny (not too skinny though), fat ass, don't care on boobs much and definitely not masculine looking face (if you know what I am talking about.).
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[QUOTE=EgyMongerNew;2651753]BBFS is extremely difficult to get in Brazil.[/QUOTE]Thank you for recommending Colombia. Is that ok if I ask how has your experience been with Colombia for BBFS for light skin hottie?
Also which City would you recommend in Columbia?
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[QUOTE=EgyMongerNew;2651753]BBFS is extremely difficult to get in Brazil.[/QUOTE]I'll second that opinion. BBFS is much easier to get in Colombia, and much cheaper too. Except in Cartagena. My favorite city to play is Medellin. Also you will find a mix of Venezuelan chicas to peruse. Good hunting, Luvchicas.
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Any awesome sexy happy ending massages in Cartagena. I leave tomorrow and would like to get one. PM me thanks! Or just reply with the place.
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Happy ending massage
Anywhere to get a happy ending massage from hot Colombians.
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DLV seeking
[QUOTE=Kafka;2651483]You don't even know who you're talking to when you talk to someone on Facebook and online.
You tell her you make a date it for coffee or something like or make a date on the beach for free, discuss business later.
In the worst case maybe FaceTime I found the biggest mistake you can possibly make is trying to arrange too much before you get into town.[/QUOTE]Okay I went to DLV last night and I don't even know why I used seeking. Blown away by how attractive the woman are. But I went in at like 8:30 and didn't see many people. What time do chicas start showing up?
How common is it to get DFK and CIM? The chica I saw wasn't into either.
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[QUOTE=Midnighter99;2652607]Okay I went to DLV last night and I don't even know why I used seeking. Blown away by how attractive the woman are. But I went in at like 8:30 and didn't see many people. What time do chicas start showing up?
How common is it to get DFK and CIM? The chica I saw wasn't into either.[/QUOTE]As I said in my previous reply to your original question, yes, if you want the fake tits, fake ass that usually comes along with the personality of a rock then Dolce is right up your alley. All the Instagram looks you can have.
Girls usually get to the club at 10 PM so you need to get there by 9 or 9:30.
Now as for the DFK and CIM well that's up to you and how much you are willing to pay. I personally wouldn't be DFK anything in CTG as I've been on the other side where I CIM, tragar leche a chica, and then later I see her DKF some gringo at Cafe Del Mar.
Again, your pockets your choice. Enjoy your trip.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2639665]Nypher,
The second time I already secured my wallet and phone. That thief Camilla from P Lleras was very quick, in a split second while I ducked into the toilet to remove the stinking condom she had jumped across the room and was rifling through my open luggage like an animal.
I have never had anything stolen or even attempted in Tijuana for 20+ years every weekend.
I have never had anything stolen in any country I have been to, but for 2 Colombian putas in a row to steal from me, that's a big warning flag for the rest of the mongers: just skip Colombia or lock all your shit away and chain any valuables down before letting these professional thieves with stinky pussies into your room to steal, rob or drug your ass hehe.[/QUOTE]Get one of these you can chain it down to the furniture. They would need heavy-duty knife or scissors to get in it they won't be able to do that while you go to the bathroom it would take some time to tear through it. Or use it if you get a room without a locker. It can hold everything valuable.
Pacsafe Travelsafe GII 3 Liter Portable Safe (Black) - Amazon sells them for $90 worth it.
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Dlv
[QUOTE=Nypher;2652718]As I said in my previous reply to your original question, yes, if you want the fake tits, fake ass that usually comes along with the personality of a rock then Dolce is right up your alley. All the Instagram looks you can have.
Girls usually get to the club at 10 PM so you need to get there by 9 or 9:30.
Now as for the DFK and CIM well that's up to you and how much you are willing to pay. I personally wouldn't be DFK anything in CTG as I've been on the other side where I CIM, tragar leche a chica, and then later I see her DKF some gringo at Cafe Del Mar.
Again, your pockets your choice. Enjoy your trip.[/QUOTE]Thank you for all of the advice you've given.
Went later and took out something I liked. But no one was willing to do 300 k or even 400 k for two hours. I wonder if I'm doing something wrong. I even asked the chica why everyone starts off asking for 100 usd / per hour and she told me it's because Americans keep on telling them about how expensive the girls are back home.
Where can I find freaky girls with better personalities in Cartagena?
Is there a country you like to DFK ing? Favorite country for mongering? Want to plan my next trip already.
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I see what your saying
[QUOTE=Nypher;2652718]As I said in my previous reply to your original question, yes, if you want the fake tits, fake ass that usually comes along with the personality of a rock then Dolce is right up your alley. All the Instagram looks you can have.[/QUOTE]The clock tower area sounding less and less appealing as the weeks go by. What if I want a cute face, fake ass, with a fun personality as bright as the sun?
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[QUOTE=Midnighter99;2652958]Thank you for all of the advice you've given.
Went later and took out something I liked. But no one was willing to do 300 k or even 400 k for two hours. I wonder if I'm doing something wrong. I even asked the chica why everyone starts off asking for 100 usd / per hour and she told me it's because Americans keep on telling them about how expensive the girls are back home.
Where can I find freaky girls with better personalities in Cartagena?
Is there a country you like to DFK ing? Favorite country for mongering? Want to plan my next trip already.[/QUOTE]I have never paid more than 300 k for any chica in Cartagena but I don't negotiate for time because I'm a one and done kinda guy and I don't like having chicas I don't know well sleeping next to me at night. Sometimes I negotiate for short time and it ends up being a TLN because me and the chica just fall asleep after its too late and we are tired out and if that's the case I offer a 50 k- 100 k peso tip if we have a morning session too. I usually pick up all my chicas from the clubs LDV, Space, Delerium. We usually dance and have have a good time first before I start negotiating. I prefer that than just propositioning girls from the clock tower. I think the dancing and getting to know you a little bit lowers the girls inhibitions a little bit and may result in a better price for you.
If you have to have a TLN or multi hours with a girl. Try negotiating for short time around 200 k- 250 k and then offer her another 50 k-100 k depending on how long. That should put you at around 80-100 $ for the night which is a good deal to me if she's really hot and does what you want IMO.
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Little kiss on the lips is safe. LOL.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2652718]As I said in my previous reply to your original question, yes, if you want the fake tits, fake ass that usually comes along with the personality of a rock then Dolce is right up your alley. All the Instagram looks you can have.
Girls usually get to the club at 10 PM so you need to get there by 9 or 9:30.
Now as for the DFK and CIM well that's up to you and how much you are willing to pay. I personally wouldn't be DFK anything in CTG as I've been on the other side where I CIM, tragar leche a chica, and then later I see her DKF some gringo at Cafe Del Mar.
Again, your pockets your choice. Enjoy your trip.[/QUOTE]
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The Clock Tower is a bit of an adventure, and it's got a little bit of a heavy vibe. The club's a whole other story. And then there's the beach so there's you got a whole bunch of possibilities.
[QUOTE=Cam442;2653000]The clock tower
area sounding less and less appealing as the weeks go by. What if I want a cute face, fake ass, with a fun personality as bright as the sun?[/QUOTE]
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Just got confirmation from my airbnb host that the mansion will be ready for my trip in Fe. 10-15 of us are going and I'm going to wild-out the week that I'm there. I plan on spending G's while I'm there. Superbowl sunday is gonna be off the hook
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Trip Review Days 1 and 2
Got a lot of useful information from you guys so I figured I'd submit my experiences so far. I'm honestly kind of done with chicas, this trip was supposed to be about at least semi pros. Got a week of Cupid and sent messages to every cute young girl (I'm late 20's). Got a lot of bites but didn't reel any in. It seems they go ghost as soon as they realize you're actually in their city and serious about meeting. Oh well, I randomly got lucky with a regular girl back home the day before I left so I was content to just explore the city solo and see what the Cupid girls say later. Also went around the clock tower about during daytime. Whole lotta nothing so first day monger free and my wallet was happy about that LOL. Next morning junior was making it known it wanted some action so I abandoned my no chica idea (lasted less than 24 hours haha) and my trusty research told me daytime action is at Hollywood beach. Hopped in a taxi since I'm all the way up at the Ibis and made my way there. Now I have to admit I got finessed, I apologize to y'all I know it's bad for the community and what makes it worse I speak good Spanish. But I'm not here for long and I really didn't feel like arguing so the first guy who said sit down I'll bring you chicas beer and seafood I just figured why not. 3 beers, 4 mixed drinks, a plate of shrimp and a spot under an umbrella with my chica came out to. 410 mil!? That's what I would expect to pay in a first world country but since I'the already ate and drank everything I just paid the man. I feel like at the absolute most it should have been 150. The chica, on the other hand was not a rip off at all. Young and gorgeous came out to 300. She came to the hotel surprisingly they asked no questions. Not sure if it's chica friendly always but it definitely felt that way. Right on the beach and 40 bucks a night, not bad at all although it is rather out the way. Well I got 4 more days here, happy to grab a drink with one of you fellow degenerates.
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[QUOTE=RubberDinghy;2653137]daytime action is at Hollywood beach. Now I have to admit I got finessed, I apologize to y'all I know it's bad for the community and what makes it worse I speak good Spanish. But I'm not here for long and I really didn't feel like arguing so the first guy who said sit down I'll bring you chicas beer and seafood I just figured why not.
[/QUOTE]Folks can preach until they are blue in the face. We all know that experience is the best teacher. Lesson learned (albeit the hard way.).
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[QUOTE=Midnighter99;2652958]Thank you for all of the advice you've given.
Went later and took out something I liked. But no one was willing to do 300 k or even 400 k for two hours. I wonder if I'm doing something wrong. I even asked the chica why everyone starts off asking for 100 usd / per hour and she told me it's because Americans keep on telling them about how expensive the girls are back home.
Where can I find freaky girls with better personalities in Cartagena?
Is there a country you like to DFK ing? Favorite country for mongering? Want to plan my next trip already.[/QUOTE]Yes, the girls talking in dollars is a problem, whenever they do that switch them back to pesos and the price will be way less. Now, the Dolce girls will all start out at 800 K and the earlier in the night it is the more they will charge, if you wait till after midnight you can get them for 400 K but then its like picking off the leftovers that nobody wanted or you're getting a chica that already had multiple gringos for the night and looking to closeout with a TLN.
As for you finding freaky girls, well I don't know what to tell you because I don't know what kind of freaky shit you are into LOL. One of my chicas told me gringo the weirdest shit she ever did was fuck a gringo with a strap on and he paid her very well for it, to each their own I guess. But if you are looking for freaky chicks, look at the chica body language then have a conversation from there on what she do and don't do.
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[QUOTE=Cam442;2653000]The clock tower area sounding less and less appealing as the weeks go by. What if I want a cute face, fake ass, with a fun personality as bright as the sun?[/QUOTE]The clocktower was cleared out for the holiday, I don't have any up to date info from my chicas due to many of them are still at home with their families, they should be back to work next week.
You're requirements are all subjective, what's cute to me may be ugly to me and vice versa. Fake ass. Well what kind? I've been with some who were as hard as a rock from what they injected in there, and some that were fat transfers from stomach to ass. Looks great when clothes are on but once clothes come off it just looks weird so its a lights out or close your eyes experience. Personality is another subjective thing.
I would suggest that you comb through the chicas in person and feel them out one by one until you find what you're looking for. Its not similar to a catalog where everything is listed and you can point and click to get exactly that you're looking for.
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[QUOTE=RubberDinghy;2653137]Got a lot of useful information from you guys so I figured I'd submit my experiences so far. I'm honestly kind of done with chicas, this trip was supposed to be about at least semi pros. Got a week of Cupid and sent messages to every cute young girl (I'm late 20's). Got a lot of bites but didn't reel any in. It seems they go ghost as soon as they realize you're actually in their city and serious about meeting. Oh well, I randomly got lucky with a regular girl back home the day before I left so I was content to just explore the city solo and see what the Cupid girls say later. Also went around the clock tower about during daytime. Whole lotta nothing so first day monger free and my wallet was happy about that LOL. Next morning junior was making it known it wanted some action so I abandoned my no chica idea (lasted less than 24 hours haha) and my trusty research told me daytime action is at Hollywood beach. Hopped in a taxi since I'm all the way up at the Ibis and made my way there. Now I have to admit I got finessed, I apologize to y'all I know it's bad for the community and what makes it worse I speak good Spanish. But I'm not here for long and I really didn't feel like arguing so the first guy who said sit down I'll bring you chicas beer and seafood I just figured why not. 3 beers, 4 mixed drinks, a plate of shrimp and a spot under an umbrella with my chica came out to. 410 mil!? That's what I would expect to pay in a first world country but since I'the already ate and drank everything I just paid the man. I feel like at the absolute most it should have been 150. The chica, on the other hand was not a rip off at all..[/QUOTE]Cupid is not an app that I know the chicas use in CTG. I know yhey use Tinder followed by Hinge. Tinder is #1 anywhere when mongering.
No chica have ever ghosted once they find out I'm actually in CTG its the exact opposite of constant "donde esta" or "quiero verte" every day until we actually meet.
You went to the clocktower in the day time which is a big no, the chicas are only there after dark, also it was cleared out for the holidays so if there are still decorations there then the chicas will not be there. I don't have any up to date info on that as my chicas are still at home with family or they are going from home to gringo back to home.
At Hollywood beach they say you coming. If you entered by the main entrance by the bathroom where the guys always hang out, they got you good. They way they got you was the mixed drinks, when they give you the menu, pay attention to what everything cost and take a picture of it for your reference and keep a tally. That large ass number they bring back to on a napkin can be a wake up call especially when they also want a tip and its a cash only beach. I learned the hard way my first time when my bill was almost 2 million because I kept ordering rounds of drinks and buying the guys drinks too. FTS, I now tell them ill take care of them at the end and give a tip because all they are doing is bringing the food and drinks to the table, ill pay a little extra if they keep the vendors and massage ladies away from me.
If the chica was good, keep her, she will be worth it in the long run to know you have a solid back up.
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Next time negotiate a better deal that's all. If you don't want to sit down just go toward the end of the day and walk around all the girls are walking around anyway. Or just go up to the bar. They hang out there too. It may be a little bit expensive but it's a better experience on the clock tower as you're about to find out
[QUOTE=RubberDinghy;2653137]Got a lot of useful information from you guys so I figured I'd submit my experiences so far. I'm honestly kind of done with chicas, this trip was supposed to be about at least semi pros. Got a week of Cupid and sent messages to every cute young girl (I'm late 20's). Got a lot of bites but didn't reel any in. It seems they go ghost as soon as they realize you're actually in their city and serious about meeting. Oh well, I randomly got lucky with a regular girl back home the day before I left so I was content to just explore the city solo and see what the Cupid girls say later. Also went around the clock tower about during daytime. Whole lotta nothing so first day monger free and my wallet was happy about that LOL. Next morning junior was making it known it wanted some action so I abandoned my no chica idea (lasted less than 24 hours haha) and my trusty research told me daytime action is at Hollywood beach. Hopped in a taxi since I'm all the way up at the Ibis and made my way there. Now I have to admit I got finessed, I apologize to y'all I know it's bad for the community and what makes it worse I speak good Spanish. But I'm not here for long and I really didn't feel like arguing so the first guy who said sit down I'll bring you chicas beer and seafood I just figured why not. 3 beers, 4 mixed drinks, a plate of shrimp and a spot under an umbrella with my chica came out to. 410 mil!? That's what I would expect to pay in a first world country but since I'the already ate and drank everything I just paid the man. I feel like at the absolute most it should have been 150. The chica, on the other hand was not a rip off at all. Young and gorgeous came out to 300. She came to the hotel surprisingly they asked no questions. Not sure if it's chica friendly always but it definitely felt that way. Right on the beach and 40 bucks a night, not bad at all although it is rather out the way. Well I got 4 more days here, happy to grab a drink with one of you fellow degenerates.[/QUOTE]
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Say it again Enternational
I just got back from Cartagena last night. My ex girl had been bugging me to go for a while so I said why not. On Sunday we went to the mall then headed toward Hollywood beach. When we were leaving the mall I told her "look these touts are going to come at you trying to sell you any and everything so just so no and keep walking. " No sooner than we stepped on the beach here came five massage women two came to me and three to her. While I was trying to shoo the two off of me, they had already sat her down, removed her shoes and started massaging her. One of the ladies on me went over to her while the other one on me persisted even trying to pull me over to a chair which I kept denying. My ex on the other hand was getting the full treatment feet, thighs, neck, shoulders, they even tried to paint her nails. After they were done, they pulled out some laminate card with prices saying that's what she owed them. My ex is a sweetheart so she gave them the price plus a tip even though she didn't want the service. Now as we begin walking off, the lady who rubbed a few drops of lotion on my arms goes over to my ex and tells her, to pay her for the "massage" she gave me. I told ex to not pay her any attention and start walking. They followed us for a few minutes before realizing they weren't getting anything and turned around. Now I know everyone is trying to make a buck but it can get annoying. I do however help out some people around the Clock Tower with a few bucks, especially kids. On the other hand I got a super cute super sweet Venezuelan that unlike what has been bantered about on here lately had a great personality, and was an amazing BJ giver all 150 K each time. I'm ready to head back down already. Have fun boys!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2653169]Folks can preach until they are blue in the face. We all know that experience is the best teacher. Lesson learned (albeit the hard way.).[/QUOTE]
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Colombia vs Brazil
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2651575]Hi guys,
I am debating between my visit to Brazil (SP and Rio) vs Columbia (Cartagena and Medellin)? Folks who been to both can help which one is better. It is obout but what I am looking for is young hotties to bang (without condom if chica is hot as fire).
Columbia is going to be 9 hours flight for Vs. Brazil is going to be 16 hours flight so that's the only reservation I have. I am looking to stay for 7-8 days regardless where I go.[/QUOTE]Well I think you will find better deals in Colombia.
Bogota might be little bit to big and not sure would I repeat but then again is also capital and can find nice chics, Cartagena is great, Medellin not visited but planning.
SP was complete disaster regarding chics, Rio bit better but still far behind Cartagena.
If you are just into chics then Cartagena is best option, but Rio offers more value of city as destination.
I haven't seen so many hot girls in Brasil at all.
Any place in Europe beats Brasil or even Colombia look wise but girls are easy and cheaper in S. America.
Go for Colombia, but visit Rio next time as it is worthed experience.
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[QUOTE=RubberDinghy;2653137]Got a lot of useful information from you guys so I figured I'd submit my experiences so far. I'm honestly kind of done with chicas, this trip was supposed to be about at least semi pros. Got a week of Cupid and sent messages to every cute young girl (I'm late 20's). Got a lot of bites but didn't reel any in. It seems they go ghost as soon as they realize you're actually in their city and serious about meeting. Oh well, I randomly got lucky with a regular girl back home the day before I left so I was content to just explore the city solo and see what the Cupid girls say later. Also went around the clock tower about during daytime. Whole lotta nothing so first day monger free and my wallet was happy about that LOL. Next morning junior was making it known it wanted some action so I abandoned my no chica idea (lasted less than 24 hours haha) and my trusty research told me daytime action is at Hollywood beach. Hopped in a taxi since I'm all the way up at the Ibis and made my way there. Now I have to admit I got finessed, I apologize to y'all I know it's bad for the community and what makes it worse I speak good Spanish. But I'm not here for long and I really didn't feel like arguing so the first guy who said sit down I'll bring you chicas beer and seafood I just figured why not. 3 beers, 4 mixed drinks, a plate of shrimp and a spot under an umbrella with my chica came out to. 410 mil!? That's what I would expect to pay in a first world country but since I'the already ate and drank everything I just paid the man. I feel like at the absolute most it should have been 150. The chica, on the other hand was not a rip off at all. Young and gorgeous came out to 300. She came to the hotel surprisingly they asked no questions. Not sure if it's chica friendly always but it definitely felt that way. Right on the beach and 40 bucks a night, not bad at all although it is rather out the way. Well I got 4 more days here, happy to grab a drink with one of you fellow degenerates.[/QUOTE]So you sat, ate and drank everything before getting the price for it? They love your kind because they can make up any price afterwards and you will gladly pay it. That guy laughed all the way to the bank. Stop paying the Gringo Tax! Next time go find Oscar on Hollywood Beach.
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[QUOTE=Midnighter99;2651436]It's actually 600 for the two of them. I haggled them down to 400 for just 12 hours. How much should I expect to pay for girls who look like instagram models? I like the skinny blonde bimbo look and would love to know where to find them.[/QUOTE]Did you ever take the two girls? I think I know who they are.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2653190]The clocktower was cleared out for the holiday,[/QUOTE]Many ISGers claimed it was being cleared out only for the holidays and a visit from Joe Biden which never happened. One of these articles shows that citizens have been asking them to clean that shit up for the longest and the other tells how a Chilean family said they would never return to Cartagena because a hooker at the clock tower propositioned their 14 year old son saying she wanted to take his virginity as they walked past. It seems a lot of punters can not see the forest for the trees.
[URL]https://www.infobae.com/america/colombia/2021/10/14/no-vamos-a-volver-a-cartagena-fue-una-de-las-experiencias-mas-indignantes-que-nos-ha-ocurrido-turistas-chilenos-denunciaron-acoso-en-el-centro-historico/?outputType=amp-type[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eltiempo.com/amp/colombia/otras-ciudades/cartagena-prostitucion-y-drogas-la-preocupacion-del-turismo-602106[/URL]
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The Colombian Citizens want it clean
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2653445]Many ISGers claimed it was being cleared out only for the holidays and a visit from Joe Biden which never happened. One of these articles shows that citizens have been asking them to clean that shit up for the longest and the other tells how a Chilean family said they would never return to Cartagena because a hooker at the clock tower propositioned their 14 year old son saying she wanted to take his virginity as they walked past. It seems a lot of punters can not see the forest for the trees.
[URL]https://www.infobae.com/america/colombia/2021/10/14/no-vamos-a-volver-a-cartagena-fue-una-de-las-experiencias-mas-indignantes-que-nos-ha-ocurrido-turistas-chilenos-denunciaron-acoso-en-el-centro-historico/?outputType=amp-type[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eltiempo.com/amp/colombia/otras-ciudades/cartagena-prostitucion-y-drogas-la-preocupacion-del-turismo-602106[/URL][/QUOTE]It's clear to me that the Colombian citizens want the clock tower and Playa Hollywood cleaned up. A lot of mongers act as though Cartagena is one big bachelor party. It's not. It's a shared area. There's always families on playa Hollywood and in centro. Dudes need to move discreetly and dress appropriately. With that said, the government crackdown didn't seem to do much. But that doesn't mean they won't eventually.
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[QUOTE=BrotherP;2653528]It's clear to me that the Colombian citizens want the clock tower and Playa Hollywood cleaned up. A lot of mongers act as though Cartagena is one big bachelor party. It's not. It's a shared area. There's always families on playa Hollywood and in centro. Dudes need to move discreetly and dress appropriately. With that said, the government crackdown didn't seem to do much. But that doesn't mean they won't eventually.[/QUOTE]I agree. There are plenty of other places / ways for us to find the chicas just like in other cities without it being so blatant in the plaza. I think Playa Hollywood is ok the way it is because there is plenty of beach for the families to go to and its not quite as obvious. But the plaza is not needed. Why ruin the place for Columbian families. Their money spent here makes it a better destination for us. BTW I am stuck in CTG now. Tested positive and can't get back to USA. Hold up in the Intercontinental with a mild case. I'm not leaving the country again until the end of covid. Had 2 positive tests already and it is costing a lot of money. Report on the little fun I had before getting sick to come.
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Okay here are the official Hollywood Beach prices. Straight from the beach today......
Unbrella and padded chair 40 K.
Shrimp plates 30-50 K (depends on size).
Margarita. 30 k.
Coco Loco 28 K.
Domestic Beer 7 K.
Cuba Libre 27 K.
So yes, RubberDinghey, you got totally ripped off. Looks like they just doubled the prices on you. I doubt you'll get a satisfaction if you go back down there and hassle them because they're just going to claim that they didn't charge that much, etc.
[QUOTE=RubberDinghy;2653137]Got a lot of useful information from you guys so I figured I'd submit my experiences so far. I'm honestly kind of done with chicas, this trip was supposed to be about at least semi pros. Got a week of Cupid and sent messages to every cute young girl (I'm late 20's). Got a lot of bites but didn't reel any in. It seems they go ghost as soon as they realize you're actually in their city and serious about meeting. Oh well, I randomly got lucky with a regular girl back home the day before I left so I was content to just explore the city solo and see what the Cupid girls say later. Also went around the clock tower about during daytime. Whole lotta nothing so first day monger free and my wallet was happy about that LOL. Next morning junior was making it known it wanted some action so I abandoned my no chica idea (lasted less than 24 hours haha) and my trusty research told me daytime action is at Hollywood beach. Hopped in a taxi since I'm all the way up at the Ibis and made my way there. Now I have to admit I got finessed, I apologize to y'all I know it's bad for the community and what makes it worse I speak good Spanish. But I'm not here for long and I really didn't feel like arguing so the first guy who said sit down I'll bring you chicas beer and seafood I just figured why not. 3 beers, 4 mixed drinks, a plate of shrimp and a spot under an umbrella with my chica came out to. 410 mil!? That's what I would expect to pay in a first world country but since I'the already ate and drank everything I just paid the man. I feel like at the absolute most it should have been 150. The chica, on the other hand was not a rip off at all. Young and gorgeous came out to 300. She came to the hotel surprisingly they asked no questions. Not sure if it's chica friendly always but it definitely felt that way. Right on the beach and 40 bucks a night, not bad at all although it is rather out the way. Well I got 4 more days here, happy to grab a drink with one of you fellow degenerates.[/QUOTE]
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Wow!
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2653539]I agree. There are plenty of other places / ways for us to find the chicas just like in other cities without it being so blatant in the plaza. I think Playa Hollywood is ok the way it is because there is plenty of beach for the families to go to and its not quite as obvious. But the plaza is not needed. Why ruin the place for Columbian families. Their money spent here makes it a better destination for us. BTW I am stuck in CTG now. Tested positive and can't get back to USA. Hold up in the Intercontinental with a mild case. I'm not leaving the country again until the end of covid. Had 2 positive tests already and it is costing a lot of money. Report on the little fun I had before getting sick to come.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear you got sick bro:
I hope it works out for you.
I still think the Colombians want playa Hollywood back. There are always families there. I've seen older women complain about mongers there to the police.
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Complain to Pedro the cop. Now that's funny lucky he didn't shake them down instead..... The only problem on Hollywood is the posse's from the US work like it's a strip club....
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2653570]Sorry to hear you got sick bro:
I hope it works out for you.
I still think the Colombians want playa Hollywood back. There are always families there. I've seen older women complain about mongers there to the police.[/QUOTE]
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By the way Colombians don't need playa Hollywood, because they've got the whole beach area by the airport miles of it. And the rest of the beach as well.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2653570]Sorry to hear you got sick bro:
I hope it works out for you.
I still think the Colombians want playa Hollywood back. There are always families there. I've seen older women complain about mongers there to the police.[/QUOTE]
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CoVid sick in Colombia
Amor,
Sorry to hear you got infected in Colombia. How did you think you got it? A wingman got infected twice despite 2 vacc shots. He was cooped up inside the car with me for 4-hour drive. I did not pick it up.
I was in Tijuana's cramped speak easies throughout the shut down period, bagging a lot of girls. I was in Panama and Colombia then Mexico early this month, flew back from MDE to MEX, just in case the US closed off international flights, then I can fly Mexico's domestic flights to Tijuana and walk across the border to go home. The US did require a negative nose swap test within 1 day of departure. I did not get infected despite all risky exposures exchanging fluids with girls and going all over, hanging out in crowded public places. Lucky or what?
Perhaps you can book a few SA or Tinder girls to do serious exchanges of fluids and CoVid variants.
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Price advice for whole night
Dear fellows,
I have been several times in Cartagena, but I never had a blast there. Walking around the clock tower was a bit weird, and most of the girls would ask ridiculously high price.
I once went a girl from mileroticos, which was a complete disaster.
I am European but have been living in South / Central America for years (currently I am living in Panama) and I am fluent in Spanish.
Lately I have found one pro girl through Instagram, she is from Medellin and I would say a 9 from her body, in her 20's. I am going to Cartagena next week and asked her how much for the whole night and she is asking for 1 M COP (about 250 USD, at current rate). I found this price to be average also in Bogota, but so far I have never ventured in one night with the same girl, at least not in Colombia.
If she is providing GFE (as they always promise) I think it is a good investment.
Thoughts? Advices?
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[QUOTE=Tiepolo2002;2653772]I am going to Cartagena next week and asked her how much for the whole night and she is asking for 1 M COP (about 250 USD, at current rate). I found this price to be average[/QUOTE]You should pay it. Also remember that most people in Colombia do not make 1M pesos for working a normal job all month.
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If you read the threads you houldn't have any problem following what's going. On. If you can't find anything good in Cartagena or Medellin tlno one's going to be able to help you. You have made a map for how to have fun in this town If you can't figure out don't waste anyone's time.
We have also added a price list for Plays Hollywood....
[QUOTE=Tiepolo2002;2653772]Dear fellows,
I have been several times in Cartagena, but I never had a blast there. Walking around the clock tower was a bit weird, and most of the girls would ask ridiculously high price.
I once went a girl from mileroticos, which was a complete disaster.
I am European but have been living in South / Central America for years (currently I am living in Panama) and I am fluent in Spanish.
Lately I have found one pro girl through Instagram, she is from Medellin and I would say a 9 from her body, in her 20's. I am going to Cartagena next week and asked her how much for the whole night and she is asking for 1 M COP (about 250 USD, at current rate). I found this price to be average also in Bogota, but so far I have never ventured in one night with the same girl, at least not in Colombia.
If she is providing GFE (as they always promise) I think it is a good investment.
Thoughts? Advices?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Tiepolo2002;2653772]Lately I have found one pro girl through Instagram, she is from Medellin and I would say a 9 from her body, in her 20's. I am going to Cartagena next week and asked her how much for the whole night and she is asking for 1 M COP (about 250 USD, at current rate). I found this price to be average also in Bogota, but so far I have never ventured in one night with the same girl, at least not in Colombia.
If she is providing GFE (as they always promise) I think it is a good investment.
Thoughts? Advices?[/QUOTE]I would fly to Medellin and meet her first and line up other talent there as well. It is not going to be hard to line up a woman wanting to go to the beach in Cartagena. Even last minute flights are like $150 round trip or less. Make sure you find someone you enjoy being with, good in the sack, and who is not crazy. About half of the women I met online and offered to fly or get a bus ticket for flaked.
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[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2653539]I agree. There are plenty of other places / ways for us to find the chicas just like in other cities without it being so blatant in the plaza. I think Playa Hollywood is ok the way it is because there is plenty of beach for the families to go to and its not quite as obvious. But the plaza is not needed. Why ruin the place for Columbian families. Their money spent here makes it a better destination for us. BTW I am stuck in CTG now. Tested positive and can't get back to USA. Hold up in the Intercontinental with a mild case. I'm not leaving the country again until the end of covid. Had 2 positive tests already and it is costing a lot of money. Report on the little fun I had before getting sick to come.[/QUOTE]So sorry to hear that bro. I tested positive also but luckily in USA. I landed in NYC from my trip in India and got sick with Covid. Take rest and drink lot of fluid. I am vaccinated and boosted also but still had mild symptoms. I have recovered now but 2 weeks of isolation was to much to handle for me. Hope everyone stay well and play safe and make sure to get vaccine and booster.
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[QUOTE=Tiepolo2002;2653772]Dear fellows,
I have been several times in Cartagena, but I never had a blast there. Walking around the clock tower was a bit weird, and most of the girls would ask ridiculously high price.
I once went a girl from mileroticos, which was a complete disaster.
I am European but have been living in South / Central America for years (currently I am living in Panama) and I am fluent in Spanish.
Lately I have found one pro girl through Instagram, she is from Medellin and I would say a 9 from her body, in her 20's. I am going to Cartagena next week and asked her how much for the whole night and she is asking for 1 M COP (about 250 USD, at current rate). I found this price to be average also in Bogota, but so far I have never ventured in one night with the same girl, at least not in Colombia.
If she is providing GFE (as they always promise) I think it is a good investment.
Thoughts? Advices?[/QUOTE]If all that you are going by are Instagram pictures you should verify when those pictures were taken. Video chat with her and make sure she looks like the picture.
1 M COP can be fair if that includes her round-trip flight, but find out what time she will arrive to be with you and what time she is leaving. The reason I say find out the time is because I've encountered new girls in CTG who I ask to come for the night and their thought process is they will show up at midnight and leave at 8 am, if I want them to show up earlier they want more money. My normal girls when I ask them to come for the night, they show up around 4 pm or 5 pm we do whatever usually grab food and drinks, walk around, following day they either sleep in and leave around 12 pm or we go do something like the beach then they leave around 4 pm.
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Nwo
[QUOTE=ElPapi;2653945]So sorry to hear that bro. I tested positive also but luckily in USA. I landed in NYC from my trip in India and got sick with Covid. Take rest and drink lot of fluid. I am vaccinated and boosted also but still had mild symptoms. I have recovered now but 2 weeks of isolation was to much to handle for me. Hope everyone stay well and play safe and make sure to get vaccine and booster.[/QUOTE]Was thinking this forum is about sharing experiences about chics, having fun and things like that.
You can discuss your vaccination status, boosters and how to wear mask properly somewhere else.
Enough of that shit.
People come here to read about fun stuff.
We have bbc and cnn and other mass media brain washing machines to listen about isolation periods, boosters and other bollocks.
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[QUOTE=Tiepolo2002;2653772]Dear fellows,
I have been several times in Cartagena, but I never had a blast there. Walking around the clock tower was a bit weird, and most of the girls would ask ridiculously high price.
I once went a girl from mileroticos, which was a complete disaster.
I am European but have been living in South / Central America for years (currently I am living in Panama) and I am fluent in Spanish.
Lately I have found one pro girl through Instagram, she is from Medellin and I would say a 9 from her body, in her 20's. I am going to Cartagena next week and asked her how much for the whole night and she is asking for 1 M COP (about 250 USD, at current rate). I found this price to be average also in Bogota, but so far I have never ventured in one night with the same girl, at least not in Colombia.
If she is providing GFE (as they always promise) I think it is a good investment.
Thoughts? Advices?[/QUOTE]Bro just go to Dolce Vita. Importing a girl to Cartagena that you've never met before isn't a smart idea.
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[QUOTE=TuneFor;2654041]Was thinking this forum is about sharing experiences about chics, having fun and things like that.
You can discuss your vaccination status, boosters and how to wear mask properly somewhere else.
Enough of that shit.
People come here to read about fun stuff.
We have bbc and cnn and other mass media brain washing machines to listen about isolation periods, boosters and other bollocks.[/QUOTE]I disagree with you. It is very important to inform fellow mongers what happens when you test positive before flight back to USA. I had a flight booked end of this month on a cheap basic fare on American Airlines. Fare rules say no change, no refund. I was scared about becoming positive and sent a e mail saying so to American. They allowed me one time change. Becoming positive has its own challenges in a foreign country till you come back.
In this forum we not only talk about fun with girls we talk about immigration, restaurants, travel options, hotels etc and I am sure administrators agree with me.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;2654225]I disagree with you. It is very important to inform fellow mongers what happens when you test positive before flight back to USA. I had a flight booked end of this month on a cheap basic fare on American Airlines. Fare rules say no change, no refund. I was scared about becoming positive and sent a e mail saying so to American. They allowed me one time change. Becoming positive has its own challenges in a foreign country till you come back.
In this forum we not only talk about fun with girls we talk about immigration, restaurants, travel options, hotels etc and I am sure administrators agree with me.[/QUOTE]I usually buy travel insurance which would cover those unexpected expenses just in case things like that happen. Knock on wood.
Anyway, they are usually pretty cheap.
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F That.
[QUOTE=TuneFor;2654041]Was thinking this forum is about sharing experiences about chics, having fun and things like that.
You can discuss your vaccination status, boosters and how to wear mask properly somewhere else.
Enough of that shit.
People come here to read about fun stuff.
We have bbc and cnn and other mass media brain washing machines to listen about isolation periods, boosters and other bollocks.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you have a personal problem.
Everyone should feel free to discuss anything they want If you don't like it (post or conversation) feel free to not respond. Since we are in the AGE of COVID it is relevant and IMHO informative when one post if they got infected when where and what the process, they went through to eventually get back to home country.
We discuss Food / Restaurants, Crime / Safety, Hotels / AirBnBs, Rates / Prices, Natural / Silicon, Pro/Non-Pro, etc., and everything else under the sun that relates to this wonderful Hobby of ours. Part of this hobby is international travel therefore COVID is just as relevant as catching a STD. Yes we do discuss Health Related Issues on this forum.
If you got issues, keep it to yourself.
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[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2654252]I usually buy travel insurance which would cover those unexpected expenses just in case things like that happen. Knock on wood.
Anyway, they are usually pretty cheap.[/QUOTE]I am not talking about expenses. I was responding to the poster who says only matters related to girls should be posted here. Most of us have travelled all over the world to monger. We never had any issues. We make plans book tickets and go and have fun. Now because of covid it is challenge with rules, restrictions, closed bars etc. So it is important to know individual experiences unrelated to mongering.
For me Asia is my preferred destination where girls are lots of fun. Most of my girlfriends have been waiting for me true or not. At least they like my company and gifts and money and having good time traveling.
I know about travel insurance. Read the disclaimers before buying. They one with lots of restrictions before they pay. It is blanket coverage to say the least. One time I bought the travel insurance I had to fight with them to get covered. It is like foreign car rental insurance. You pay for damages and fight with the insurance company to get reimbursed. I am still fighting with Thai airlines for the refund if the fare paid. They admitted they are the ones who canceled the flight but they say because airlines filed bankruptcy or something courts have to decide whom to be paid and how much. Insurance coverage is a minefield.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;2654380]I am not talking about expenses. I was responding to the poster who says only matters related to girls should be posted here. Most of us have travelled all over the world to monger. We never had any issues. We make plans book tickets and go and have fun. Now because of covid it is challenge with rules, restrictions, closed bars etc. So it is important to know individual experiences unrelated to mongering.
For me Asia is my preferred destination where girls are lots of fun. Most of my girlfriends have been waiting for me true or not. At least they like my company and gifts and money and having good time traveling.
I know about travel insurance. Read the disclaimers before buying. They one with lots of restrictions before they pay. It is blanket coverage to say the least. One time I bought the travel insurance I had to fight with them to get covered. It is like foreign car rental insurance. You pay for damages and fight with the insurance company to get reimbursed. I am still fighting with Thai airlines for the refund if the fare paid. They admitted they are the ones who canceled the flight but they say because airlines filed bankruptcy or something courts have to decide whom to be paid and how much. Insurance coverage is a minefield.[/QUOTE]I hear you. As another member has replied, that bloke apparently has a personal issue and I would typically just ignore such a person and not give him the courtesy of a response.
I only share from my personal experience and other readers can decide how they want to use this information. Travelling internationally during the era of covid is definitely challenging logistically. Vaccination is not a guarantee from covid infection as some readers have attested but it does help reduce that risk. Not being able to fly back to US if tested positive is definitely a big headache. It is in the back of my mind when I was overseas, and I need to have a contingency plan should it happen.
For asymptomatic scenario, walking across the US border from Mexico, such as from Tijuana, is an option since there is no test requirement to enter via land as far as I know. Morally, it is a gray area. Another option is just to ride it out in the hotel until one recovers and be tested negative again so that one can fly back to the US. Such additional expenses can be covered with a travel insurance. You may be right that insurance can be a minefield but it can still be helpful as a risk mitigation.
I like SEA too as my destination but currently it is just way too much of a hurdle just to get there. At least Colombia is not far from the US which still makes the whole thing manageable in my view.
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Had a negative test this morning and finally heading back to San Diego tomorrow
Got a negative test this morning and flying home first class tomorrow. What a relief. A 9 night trip turned into 18 with 2 positive tests. I'm 64, very healthy and boosted. Didn't get that sick, it was like a moderate cold. Basically just a sore throat and felt bad. I've been much worse off from the flu. Had to be omicron. I must say that if you get covid in Cartagena the Intercontinental in a superior room is the place to ride it out. Just had a great swim in the pool and an awesome meal from the grill they set up at the pool and I feel great now. The food is good here and room service is cheap and fast. First bit of fun I've had in 8 days. Booked the trip in Nov before omicron hit. I knew this could happen and moving to the Intercontinental was plan be all along. Its right next to the tower where I had an airbnb and I had scoped it out on my first trip to CTG 2 years ago right before the disaster of covid. Been wanting to get here ever since and did not want to cancel. I must say with the testing and all the stupid online forms and such you have to fill out international travel is very problematic now. Spent 2 days in the JW in Panama then went here. Originally booked 9 nights in the airbnb but Copa cancelled the last leg of my flight and gave me a 14 hour overnight layover so decided to check out Panama for 2 nights. I did look at flying out of Tijuana but all the flights were a long pain in the ass and price is not a consideration for me. Does anybody want to hear about the chicas?
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Glad your better
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2654681]Got a negative test this morning and flying home first class tomorrow. What a relief. A 9 night trip turned into 18 with 2 positive tests. I'm 64, very healthy and boosted. Didn't get that sick, it was like a moderate cold. Basically just a sore throat and felt bad. I've been much worse off from the flu. Had to be omicron. I must say that if you get covid in Cartagena the Intercontinental in a superior room is the place to ride it out. Just had a great swim in the pool and an awesome meal from the grill they set up at the pool and I feel great now. The food is good here and room service is cheap and fast. First bit of fun I've had in 8 days. Booked the trip in Nov before omicron hit. I knew this could happen and moving to the Intercontinental was plan be all along. Its right next to the tower where I had an airbnb and I had scoped it out on my first trip to CTG 2 years ago right before the disaster of covid. Been wanting to get here ever since and did not want to cancel. I must say with the testing and all the stupid online forms and such you have to fill out international travel is very problematic now. Spent 2 days in the JW in Panama then went here. Originally booked 9 nights in the airbnb but Copa cancelled the last leg of my flight and gave me a 14 hour overnight layover so decided to check out Panama for 2 nights. I did look at flying out of Tijuana but all the flights were a long pain in the ass and price is not a consideration for me. Does anybody want to hear about the chicas?[/QUOTE]Good to hear you made it out bro! Is the intercontinental chica friendly? Yes, I do want to hear about the chicas!
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[QUOTE=BrotherP;2654695]Good to hear you made it out bro! Is the intercontinental chica friendly? Yes, I do want to hear about the chicas![/QUOTE]Thanks Brother. Intercontinental is no visitors allowed. So is the Dann, I asked. Probably most all the nice hotels are. Next trip I'm going to do a week in airbnb and try to find a chica I want to check in with me for the last 2 or 3 days at the Intercontinental. Chica report to follow, got some shit to do now.
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Wow
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2654699]Thanks Brother. Intercontinental is no visitors allowed. So is the Dann, I asked. Probably most all the nice hotels are. Next trip I'm going to do a week in airbnb and try to find a chica I want to check in with me for the last 2 or 3 days at the Intercontinental. Chica report to follow, got some shit to do now.[/QUOTE]The Dann and Hotel Oz were reported as being guest friendly. . Oh well.
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[QUOTE=BrotherP;2654788]The Dann and Hotel Oz were reported as being guest friendly. . Oh well.[/QUOTE]I have reservations AR Don Pedro was told was guest friendly but I am not sure. I heard Oz also like you.
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[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2654681]Got a negative test this morning and flying home first class tomorrow. What a relief. Does anybody want to hear about the chicas?[/QUOTE]Glad your Negative and is heading Home. YES, I want to hear about the Chicas!!
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Rub Spa
Anyone else have tried the Rub Spa in Manga? Specifically, tried to ask the girls out or for sex in there? I went there two years ago but I only did the full nude massage and did not ask the girl if she would do extras or escort since I had a flight in the afternoon, but I would be interested to see if the girls are willing to give their contact (their Instagram page is constantly saying that sex is not allowed).
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[QUOTE=UniversalX;2654810]Glad your Negative and is heading Home. YES, I want to hear about the Chicas!![/QUOTE]Happy for the negative test. I want to hear also about the chicas.
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Agency any good?
I am visiting Cartagena in Feb. For a week. I am booked at Hampton inn by Hilton in Bocagrande.
Is it visitor friendly? Also I found this agency online. Has anyone tried it and what was the experience?
Appreciate your response.
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OZ Hotel
I went into the Oz this morning and asked. YES it is visitor friendly "no problema" but only one visitor at a time. Works for me. Only problem is it is sold out and checking online looks to be sold out most of the time. Probably because of the chica policy. They said 300 k per night at the desk. I will write the chica reports when I finally get home. One will be in Panama City forum from my first 2 nights at the JW.
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[QUOTE=SexoOMyMind;2654907]I am visiting Cartagena in Feb. For a week. I am booked at Hampton inn by Hilton in Bocagrande.
Is it visitor friendly? Also I found this agency online. Has anyone tried it and what was the experience?
Appreciate your response.[/QUOTE]Why are you asking random strangers on the internet about the hotel visitor policy instead of asking the hotel directly? Policy changes all the time, information today by a random stranger can be different by the time you actually get to the hotel.
What agency are you referring to?
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Best way to source quality girls?
Want to do a four day Airbnb late Feb. In Cartagena and want to have a high quality girlfriend experience with 2 girls. Sex of course. But also dinner and dancing. I speak some Spanish but not perfect. Priority for me is a quality experience. Much more important than cheap and I definitely don't want to waste my time. Some background. I've had one visit to Medellin where I sourced super hot girls at the strip club. In another country I used Tinder gold before I arrived which worked out very well.
For Cartagena, would you recommend Tinder Gold or some other social media platform for sourcing the girls prior to arrival or better to wait till I arrive and source the girls at the strip club?
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[QUOTE=JamesPearle;2655387]Want to do a four day Airbnb late Feb. In Cartagena and want to have a high quality girlfriend experience with 2 girls. Sex of course. But also dinner and dancing. I speak some Spanish but not perfect. Priority for me is a quality experience. Much more important than cheap and I definitely don't want to waste my time. Some background. I've had one visit to Medellin where I sourced super hot girls at the strip club. In another country I used Tinder gold before I arrived which worked out very well.
For Cartagena, would you recommend Tinder Gold or some other social media platform for sourcing the girls prior to arrival or better to wait till I arrive and source the girls at the strip club?[/QUOTE]I can recommend Tinder for that as you will have more time to get to know the girls as opposed to meeting them at a club and trying to negotiate everything in a loud sitting when they will have the advantage. If you wait until you are there, they will know you have more money than time and will take full advantage of your pockets.
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What's a "quality girl" is it all basically working girls of one type or another, some more lovable and some less. I prefer the girls who are down for Medellin for a little beach vacation. It's just my style I know that Hollywood isn't for everybody but if you're not worried about paying too much for a Coco Loco, you do get a chance to meet the girls in a little bit different situation. ,. But it really depends on what rings your bell you need a few fantasy is going to find them on some kind of gold wensite and go for it.
This game is all in he brain.
[QUOTE=JamesPearle;2655387]Want to do a four day Airbnb late Feb. In Cartagena and want to have a high quality girlfriend experience with 2 girls. Sex of course. But also dinner and dancing. I speak some Spanish but not perfect. Priority for me is a quality experience. Much more important than cheap and I definitely don't want to waste my time. Some background. I've had one visit to Medellin where I sourced super hot girls at the strip club. In another country I used Tinder gold before I arrived which worked out very well.
For Cartagena, would you recommend Tinder Gold or some other social media platform for sourcing the girls prior to arrival or better to wait till I arrive and source the girls at the strip club?[/QUOTE]
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Good advice
Thanks for the advice. Will check with the hotel.
The agency name is lacelestina. Co.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2655108]Why are you asking random strangers on the internet about the hotel visitor policy instead of asking the hotel directly? Policy changes all the time, information today by a random stranger can be different by the time you actually get to the hotel.
What agency are you referring to?[/QUOTE]
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Will be in cartagena next week
Went in August 2021 and Thanksgiving weekend 2021.
I'm a slo traveler and speak English and Spanish.
Any mongers want to chill for a drink or 2. Let me know.
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[QUOTE=SexoOMyMind;2655683]Thanks for the advice. Will check with the hotel.
The agency name is lacelestina. Co.[/QUOTE]I don't know anybody who's gotten a girl from that particular agency. You're going to end up paying more for the same girls you're going to find on mileroricos or the club. I give the same advice that I give to everybody biggest mistake you can make is trying to do too much when you're not in Cartagena. Within a few days of your arrival in in town or sooner everything will become very clear.
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Got it. Thanks again. Another agency [URL]https://esclusivas.com/[/URL].
Seem to have decent rates and really hot girls.
[QUOTE=Kafka;2655870]I don't know anybody who's gotten a girl from that particular agency. You're going to end up paying more for the same girls you're going to find on mileroricos or the club. I give the same advice that I give to everybody biggest mistake you can make is trying to do too much when you're not in Cartagena. Within a few days of your arrival in in town or sooner everything will become very clear.[/QUOTE]
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Lacelestina
How hard / easy will it be to find girls like what you see at Lacelesina [URL]https://lacelestina.co/en/profiles/location/Cartagena[/URL] in the clock tower area.
[QUOTE=SexoOMyMind;2655683]Thanks for the advice. Will check with the hotel.
The agency name is lacelestina. Co.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mtljay;2656256]How hard / easy will it be to find girls like what you see at Lacelesina [URL]https://lacelestina.co/en/profiles/location/Cartagena[/URL] in the clock tower area.[/QUOTE]I've said it many times, if someone is looking for a skinny girl where we can see her ribcage, big fake tits, and a big fake ass all that person has to do is walk into Dolce. All the plastic they can handle if the mongers pockets can afford it.
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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2633967]Took a cab ride from Boca Grande into the Walled City about 6 PM. The distance was about 3 miles but traffic was congested. People were blowing their horns in frustration at every intersection, and the cab driver was a Kamikaze pilot. He was driving in opposite lanes, squeezing into every opening, shouted at other drivers, got out of the cab in road rages. Got to the clock tower alive, gave him 1000 pesos as agreed plus 500 pesos propina for the bad traffic. He thanked us profusely, obviously a deranged guy.
Friday night had lots more people in the clock tower plazas and alley ways, local families in fancy dresses taking pictures, tourists, older local guys with their young and beautiful mistresses as usual. We were early so found only a few WG walking, giving us the winks. Went to dinner at the best-rated cevicheria inside the Walled City. The Mexican combo ceviche was very good and fresh with just a limon marinade. Avoid Colombian severely rich and tasteless mayonnaise and cream marinade which masks all seafood flavor and taste. My wingman ordered a salad. I tried a small sample and found a piece of broken glass in it. Damn. The wingman went ahead and finished it anyway.
Walked around the narrow streets of Walled City. There were many hot, sweet, young girls walking with their families but very few walking or stationary WG, none near La Vita Dolce and Space, unlike Thursday night which had a few dozens near each. Perhaps the moto cop did something to them.[/QUOTE]Hello,
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2656308]I've said it many times, if someone is looking for a skinny girl where we can see her ribcage, big fake tits, and a big fake ass all that person has to do is walk into Dolce. All the plastic they can handle if the mongers pockets can afford it.[/QUOTE]It's hilarious bro. Trying to save these guys fromthemselves is impossible.
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Anyone used this agency, the prices seem too good to be true for the girls. Girls who look like that in LA will charge x10 times.
[QUOTE=SexoOMyMind;2656118]Got it. Thanks again. Another agency [URL]https://esclusivas.com/[/URL].
Seem to have decent rates and really hot girls.[/QUOTE]
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How safe is Rub Spa?
[QUOTE=LeoAiolia;2654838]Anyone else have tried the Rub Spa in Manga? Specifically, tried to ask the girls out or for sex in there? I went there two years ago but I only did the full nude massage and did not ask the girl if she would do extras or escort since I had a flight in the afternoon, but I would be interested to see if the girls are willing to give their contact (their Instagram page is constantly saying that sex is not allowed).[/QUOTE]How safe is the area that the Rub Spa is in? I'm thinking about going, but only if it is safe.
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[QUOTE=Mtljay;2657183]Anyone used this agency, the prices seem too good to be true for the girls. Girls who look like that in LA will charge x10 times.[/QUOTE]You think? I'm going to put you in the same category as Captain Solo.
Do you think maybe fake airbrushed pictures of girls might be too good to be true? Because women really look like that...?
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[QUOTE=Jake2738;2657730]How safe is the area that the Rub Spa is in? I'm thinking about going, but only if it is safe.[/QUOTE]It's safe until it's not safe and then it's too late. Most places routside of the tourist areas are not safe at night for gringos. Make sure you have a trusted driver with you.
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2657838]You think? I'm going to put you in the same category as Captain Solo.
Do you think maybe fake airbrushed pictures of girls might be too good to be true? Because women really look like that...?[/QUOTE]This is why Tinder and everything else relating to pics is a tricky subject.
3 matches turned out to be heavier in person last time I was in Cartagena.
I felt disrespected.
Because the catfishing was on purpose.
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[QUOTE=ElIntocableDr;2657846]This is why Tinder and everything else relating to pics is a tricky subject.3 matches turned out to be heavier in person last time I was in Cartagena.
I felt disrespected.
Because the catfishing was on purpose.[/QUOTE]If it looks good to be true it's probably to good to be true. Although I did have one good experience finding a Venezuelan on Photopagos the ad was worded in such a way that I knew it wasn't just another escort. And if you get a response like bby something like that just stay away.
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2657838]You think? I'm going to put you in the same category as Captain Solo.
Do you think maybe fake airbrushed pictures of girls might be too good to be true? Because women really look like that...?[/QUOTE]As you said. This website is a collection of people who are freely giving others the best advice from their experiences both good and bad, so others won't make the same mistakes and will have the best possible outcomes. But yet its thrown out the window because they are so focused on their point of view.
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[QUOTE=Mtljay;2657183]Anyone used this agency, the prices seem too good to be true for the girls. Girls who look like that in LA will charge x10 times.[/QUOTE]To me based on my many trips to Cartagena, it just does not make any sense to deal with anything on the internet while in Cartagena. One of the few places in the western hemisphere where you can go into club (s) full of hot chicas where you can size them up in person and negotiate before you make a deal. I am older and I do not care for dance music and I do not like talking in loud places like clubs but I love the latinas and 'll be damned if I will let some loud music get between me and picking up a gorgeous chica.
I miss when La Dolce Vita was down in Laguito and it was larger and rarely got packed enough not be able to circulate easily but even if you see a hottie across the room in the new Dolce Vita that you like, if she is about business than you should be able to just motion her over and start a conversation.
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Manga
[QUOTE=Jake2738;2657730]How safe is the area that the Rub Spa is in? I'm thinking about going, but only if it is safe.[/QUOTE]Rub Spa is located in Manga, which in my opinion is one of the safest places in Cartagena. I have stayed there the last 3 times at different Airbnb spots and it feels like a more relaxed and local atmosphere. You can walk to the supermarket, run beside the ocean and walk around the area without being constantly accosted by someone trying to sell you something or asking for money. Sure, no place is completely safe but just be smart and you should be OK.
By contrast, Bocagrande and Getsemani are full of other tourists, which of course brings tourist traps and hustlers, and someone that wants to find a tourist to take advantage of will more likely be there looking for an opportunity.
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The old days in New York City for the internet you're guaranteed to get a dime or even better dealing with an agency. I will just tell them what kind of girl I liked and they say oh yeah I've got somebody for you and sure enough. They would deliver.
Maybe some of these guys are just shy. I know I tend to be on the both side on the Torre Reloj. It's like I'm here and I'm not embarrassed about it. 😆.
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2657983]To me based on my many trips to Cartagena, it just does not make any sense to deal with anything on the internet while in Cartagena. One of the few places in the western hemisphere where you can go into club (s) full of hot chicas where you can size them up in person and negotiate before you make a deal. I am older and I do not care for dance music and I do not like talking in loud places like clubs but I love the latinas and 'll be damned if I will let some loud music get between me and picking up a gorgeous chica.
I miss when La Dolce Vita was down in Laguito and it was larger and rarely got packed enough not be able to circulate easily but even if you see a hottie across the room in the new Dolce Vita that you like, if she is about business than you should be able to just motion her over and start a conversation.[/QUOTE]
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Looking for a wingman
I'm in Cartagena now though Saturday if anyone wants to team up send me a PM.
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One night in Cartagena
Gents,
First time to Colombia and due to MDE airport maintenance, our flight form Bogota on Feb. 19th is routed thru Cartagena which gives us to sample this city before heading to Medellin.
I booked at Hampton by Hilton for over night stay and wondering if any of members stayed there and any DP of bringing the chicas with no issues?
Any suggestions must do during this 24 hrs (landing in the 19th morning. Should be ready to step out by afternoon.
1 Planning to take a boat tour for 3 ot 4 hours (until sunset) to near by islands.
2 night stroll thru old city, central and have dinner (any suggested place).
3 either try for WG at the clock tower or try any casa?
4 any recommended massage / spa with full service (read about Rub spa but not sure if there are any confirmed reports of price, service).
Would love to meet any fellow mongers for a drink incase if they are near by Hampton / Hilton hotel on 19th or 20th morning.
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[QUOTE=MadMax9336;2661049]Gents,
First time to Colombia and due to MDE airport maintenance, our flight form Bogota on Feb. 19th is routed thru Cartagena which gives us to sample this city before heading to Medellin.
I booked at Hampton by Hilton for over night stay and wondering if any of members stayed there and any DP of bringing the chicas with no issues?
Any suggestions must do during this 24 hrs (landing in the 19th morning. Should be ready to step out by afternoon.
1 Planning to take a boat tour for 3 ot 4 hours (until sunset) to near by islands.
2 night stroll thru old city, central and have dinner (any suggested place).
3 either try for WG at the clock tower or try any casa?
4 any recommended massage / spa with full service (read about Rub spa but not sure if there are any confirmed reports of price, service)..[/QUOTE]First things first. Your hotel of choice. Why ask random strangers on the internet when you can ask the hotel directly and get an answer straight from the source. You are in a bind as most guest friendly hotels are booked way in advance and most guest friendly AirBBs require 2 nights stay minimum. If you get a chica ask her where are the short stay hotels and she will know.
1 - Those trips are usually early morning and is usually an all day thing as no boats want to be on the water when the tide comes in due to rough water.
3 - the clock tower is cleared out. The girls are walking around by the clubs or inside the clubs.
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[QUOTE=MadMax9336;2661049]Gents,
First time to Colombia and due to MDE airport maintenance, our flight form Bogota on Feb. 19th is routed thru Cartagena which gives us to sample this city before heading to Medellin.
I booked at Hampton by Hilton for over night stay and wondering if any of members stayed there and any DP of bringing the chicas with no issues?
Any suggestions must do during this 24 hrs (landing in the 19th morning. Should be ready to step out by afternoon.
1 Planning to take a boat tour for 3 ot 4 hours (until sunset) to near by islands.
2 night stroll thru old city, central and have dinner (any suggested place).
3 either try for WG at the clock tower or try any casa?
4 any recommended massage / spa with full service (read about Rub spa but not sure if there are any confirmed reports of price, service).
Would love to meet any fellow mongers for a drink incase if they are near by Hampton / Hilton hotel on 19th or 20th morning.[/QUOTE]Here is my two cents on the subject.
I am editing this to reflect that I just noticed that your post is two days old and you said you were there for only one night - how did it go? I am leaving my initial response to see if anyone has anything to add
Very slim chance your hotel is going to allow chicas come to your room. You need to investigate the love hotels. Once you find a chica they can direct you to a love hotel. Be safe though and do not go for any chicas that want to do a threesome. Two chicas is when most people get robbed. If you want to find the best selection of chicas I strongly advise going to Dolce Vita, the selection in casas is not comparable to Dolce Vita. Very few places in the western hemisphere are comparable really. Maybe in Brazil I have heard and a few places in Bogotal I have also heard but still Dolce Vita is a night clup filled with working chicas and many of them are beautiful. Dolce Vita is searchable on google maps. It is on Carrera 6 (aka Calle del Porvenir) between Calle 35 and Calle 36).
I have not been to Cartagena in almost a year. I am not sure about what is going on in the Clock Towere area. The mayor had made a comment that sex tourist were not welcom and then they had ran the girls out of the clock tower square but that was back around November. But I would want to know more before I went around soliciting chicas in the street. There is no reported affect on the action in Dolce Vita or casas for that matter but I would stick to doing business in the clubs.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2661769]Here is my two cents on the subject.
I am editing this to reflect that I just noticed that your post is two days old and you said you were there for only one night - how did it go? I am leaving my initial response to see if anyone has anything to add..[/QUOTE]It looks like they are arriving on the 19th of this month (next week) but their flight apparently is going from BOG to CTG for what appears to be a 1 day layover, then from CTG to MDE.
1 day in CTG is not enough to do anything or see anything when the person have zero connections on the ground on top of its their first time.
We also don't know how is their Spanish speaking skills so that's another variable to work with.
It looks like the expectation is to do a ton in a single day which will be a rushed experience.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2661687]First things first. Your hotel of choice. Why ask random strangers on the internet when you can ask the hotel directly and get an answer straight from the source. You are in a bind as most guest friendly hotels are booked way in advance and most guest friendly AirBBs require 2 nights stay minimum. If you get a chica ask her where are the short stay hotels and she will know.
1 - Those trips are usually early morning and is usually an all day thing as no boats want to be on the water when the tide comes in due to rough water.
3 - the clock tower is cleared out. The girls are walking around by the clubs or inside the clubs.[/QUOTE]Thanks for feedback Nypher.
It was a last minute change in our itinerary due to the flight reschedule. Hence did not do much research on Cartagena.
The first available Hilton brand hotel near airport is this one and ended up taking it as this allows early check in as we are landing in around 8 am and most of the hotels will make you wait until noon to check in.
As another member suggested, probably will stick to either Dolce Vita or any suggested casa for quick deed instead of following chica suggested love motels to avoid surprises.
Thanks for the boat tour and you are right about these tours only operate early in the morning. So probably we will cancel that plan and relax on the beach, eat, massages, sleep. Then evening stroll to old town / clock tower, dinner then Dolce Vita club or near by casa and wrap up the night.
Once again thank you guys giving the insights.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2661687]First things first. Your hotel of choice. Why ask random strangers on the internet when you can ask the hotel directly and get an answer straight from the source. You are in a bind as most guest friendly hotels are booked way in advance and most guest friendly AirBBs require 2 nights stay minimum. If you get a chica ask her where are the short stay hotels and she will know.
1 - Those trips are usually early morning and is usually an all day thing as no boats want to be on the water when the tide comes in due to rough water.
3 - the clock tower is cleared out. The girls are walking around by the clubs or inside the clubs.[/QUOTE]Could you elaborate on the whole clock tower thing? ; Are there any clubs or areas where they've gone to, or have they just kind of dispersed into the wind?
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[QUOTE=MadMax9336;2661829]Thanks for feedback Nypher.
The first available Hilton brand hotel near airport is this one and ended up taking it as this allows early check in as we are landing in around 8 am and most of the hotels will make you wait until noon to check in.
Thanks for the boat tour and you are right about these tours only operate early in the morning. So probably we will cancel that plan and relax on the beach, eat, massages, sleep. Then evening stroll to old town / clock tower, dinner then Dolce Vita club or near by casa and wrap up the night.
Once again thank you guys giving the insights.[/QUOTE]In light of Nypher saying you will not be going until the 19th. Here is another dose of my two cents.
One Day In Cartagena.
Be psychologically prepared to ignore the onlsaught of hustlers and hawkers on the beach. Be very prudent about ordering you own drinks at the kiosks on the beach to avoied gettind scammed.
Looks like this Hampton By Hiilton is in the heart of Boca Grande on the corner of Carrera 2 and Calle 8 (Carrera 2 is the main strip). For the best lunch there is a Colombian chain I would describe as upscale casual. Its called Crepes & Waffles (do not let the name confuse you they are not a breakfast joint LOL) they have a huge menu and there desserts are rich. It is located exactly one block north east is Crepes & Waffles on the same side of the street (Carrera 2) just before you cross Calle 9. Easy to miss becase of the trees blocking the building. You have walk around the corner and the entrance is on Calle 9.
A popular thing to do is to go watch the sunset at a little bar / restaruant called Cafe Del Mar, that over looks the ocean. It was built on one of the wide cannon defense positions on the wall that is the furthest point juttting out of the peninsula. It also gives and awesome view of the Bocagrande skyline as the sunset reflects on the glass and steel.
The best food in Cartagena is seafood because it is caught fresh. And one of the best restaruants for both food and ambiance is San Pedro Cafe Mirador Restaurante. You can eat outside if you want and it sits on Plaza de San Pedro Claver. Cartagena is popular because of its Spanish Colonial architecture and this restuarant is located one of the finest and most preserved of these buildings and just across from the Iglesia de San Pedro Claver which is a church that is over 400 years old and scattered around the plaza are metal sculptures.
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[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2662021]Could you elaborate on the whole clock tower thing? ; Are there any clubs or areas where they've gone to, or have they just kind of dispersed into the wind?[/QUOTE]The sentence pretty much explains itself jajaja.
The girls are no longer allowed to stand around the clock tower to offer services. So they are walking around the three main clubs Dolce, Space, Delirium. I like to call it the pussy triangle. The ones who are not walking around are now going inside those same 3 clubs.
I hardly done the clocktower as its just comes off as odd openly walking around going from chica to chica.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2662139]In light of Nypher saying you will not be going until the 19th. Here is another dose of my two cents.
One Day In Cartagena.
Be psychologically prepared to ignore the onlsaught of hustlers and hawkers on the beach. Be very prudent about ordering you own drinks at the kiosks on the beach to avoied gettind scammed.
Looks like this Hampton By Hiilton is in the heart of Boca Grande on the corner of Carrera 2 and Calle 8 (Carrera 2 is the main strip). For the best lunch there is a Colombian chain I would describe as upscale casual. Its called Crepes & Waffles (do not let the name confuse you they are not a breakfast joint LOL) they have a huge menu and there desserts are rich. It is located exactly one block north east is Crepes & Waffles on the same side of the street (Carrera 2) just before you cross Calle 9. Easy to miss becase of the trees blocking the building. You have walk around the corner and the entrance is on Calle 9.
A popular thing to do is to go watch the sunset at a little bar / restaruant called Cafe Del Mar, that over looks the ocean. It was built on one of the wide cannon defense positions on the wall that is the furthest point juttting out of the peninsula. It also gives and awesome view of the Bocagrande skyline as the sunset reflects on the glass and steel..[/QUOTE]Solid plan, since they are landing at 8 am they can follow your advice and do the beach where there will be chicas (Kiosk #4 before 4 pm). Even though you warn them about the hustlers and hawkers its still going to be a good laugh when they report back on it jajaja. Good suggestion on Cafe DelMar for the sunset in Centro. I just have to add make reservations in advance, on 3 separate trips they were fully booked three days out when I wanted to go the night of. So now I use their website and book in advance.
At Mojo Bandit got a solid plan for a last minute day in CTG.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2662163]Solid plan, since they are landing at 8 am they can follow your advice and do the beach where there will be chicas (Kiosk #4 before 4 pm). Even though you warn them about the hustlers and hawkers its still going to be a good laugh when they report back on it jajaja. Good suggestion on Cafe DelMar for the sunset in Centro. I just have to add make reservations in advance, on 3 separate trips they were fully booked three days out when I wanted to go the night of. So now I use their website and book in advance.
At Mojo Bandit got a solid plan for a last minute day in CTG.[/QUOTE]That is crazy about Cafe Mar. I guess it makes sense though do to how popular it is. And the fact that when I originally started frequenting Cartagena you would not see but maybe one or two other people from the U.S. in a day. It has been years since I actually sat down at a table in the restaurant area though. Back when I used to be younger and would hit on chicas on LatinAmerican Cupid that was my go to meeting spot. But that was a while ago. I do remember thinking the food was bad. I would not reccomend the food to anyone unless is has improved by a lot. So since those days I walk up to the bar and order a bottle of beer and then hangout by the cannons tyo the far right of the building. I will keep in mind the reservation thing though in case I need to meet any chica there in the future.
I would also reccomend to anyone to look up the Cartagena neighborhood of Getsemani online and look at photos - not too long ago Forbes magazine rated it in the top ten coolest neighborhoods in the world. But its not for everyone - so i recomend looking at some pics online before committing your time to walking the neigborhood
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2662162]The sentence pretty much explains itself jajaja.
The girls are no longer allowed to stand around the clock tower to offer services. So they are walking around the three main clubs Dolce, Space, Delirium. I like to call it the pussy triangle. The ones who are not walking around are now going inside those same 3 clubs.
I hardly done the clocktower as its just comes off as odd openly walking around going from chica to chica.[/QUOTE]The three clubs provide information not included in the original sentence. Thank you.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2662180]That is crazy about Cafe Mar. I guess it makes sense though do to how popular it is. And the fact that when I originally started frequenting Cartagena you would not see but maybe one or two other people from the U.S. in a day. It has been years since I actually sat down at a table in the restaurant area though. Back when I used to be younger and would hit on chicas on LatinAmerican Cupid that was my go to meeting spot. But that was a while ago. I do remember thinking the food was bad. I would not reccomend the food to anyone unless is has improved by a lot. So since those days I walk up to the bar and order a bottle of beer and then hangout by the cannons tyo the far right of the building. I will keep in mind the reservation thing though in case I need to meet any chica there in the future.
I would also reccomend to anyone to look up the Cartagena neighborhood of Getsemani online and look at photos - not too long ago Forbes magazine rated it in the top ten coolest neighborhoods in the world. But its not for everyone - so i recomend looking at some pics online before committing your time to walking the neigborhood[/QUOTE]The food a Cafe del Mar wasn't the best IMO. Its more of a tourist attraction to get a photo of the sunset or that perfect sunset selfie. Drinks and live music. The Instagram influencers have completely ruined many good places. They ruined that beach in Phuket from the movie The Beach trying to get Instagram famous with selfies, They are currently doing it in Plays Sosua and Cartagena as well. When I was there in December, they were ton of foreign women just taking selfies in the street just to get the colorful buildings behind them. Some even selfishly held up traffic in the narrow streets.
Just for shits and laughs I just checked Cafe Del Mar reservation site and nothing is available until March 7th. I've never seen it this crazy. [URL]https://cafedelmar.precompro.com/select/[/URL].
MadMax is going to have to scratch that off their list and get a plan be ready or show up early and wait to see if they have an opening. Off the top of my head the only suggestions I have as an alternative is doing the Castle tour or the Monastery shortly before sunset to get good sunset photos.
I second the suggestion for Getsemani. Cool place and the murals are amazing. Its best viewed in the early morning around 7 am when there aren't many vendors and the murals aren't blocked. Food is wonderful there too.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2662484]The food a Cafe del Mar wasn't the best IMO. Its more of a tourist attraction to get a photo of the sunset or that perfect sunset selfie. Drinks and live music. The Instagram influencers have completely ruined many good places. They ruined that beach in Phuket from the movie The Beach trying to get Instagram famous with selfies, They are currently doing it in Plays Sosua and Cartagena as well. When I was there in December, they were ton of foreign women just taking selfies in the street just to get the colorful buildings behind them. Some even selfishly held up traffic in the narrow streets.
Just for shits and laughs I just checked Cafe Del Mar reservation site and nothing is available until March 7th. I've never seen it this crazy. [URL]https://cafedelmar.precompro.com/select/[/URL].
MadMax is going to have to scratch that off their list and get a plan be ready or show up early and wait to see if they have an opening. Off the top of my head the only suggestions I have as an alternative is doing the Castle tour or the Monastery shortly before sunset to get good sunset photos..[/QUOTE]Thanks guys for all the valuable suggestions.
Sorry for the late response as got busy with shopping and packing stuff.
Will note down these places in map and probably will attempt to rent a scooter to stroll around during the afternoon.
Not sure if that is good idea or stick to cabs and / walking?
Any idea how much the scooters will be rented and any suggested place to rent?
I really enjoyed driving scooter in Bali. Which is hardly $10 per day. Can explore many places around the town on your own.
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[QUOTE=MadMax9336;2662570]Thanks guys for all the valuable suggestions.
Sorry for the late response as got busy with shopping and packing stuff.
Will note down these places in map and probably will attempt to rent a scooter to stroll around during the afternoon.
Not sure if that is good idea or stick to cabs and / walking?
Any idea how much the scooters will be rented and any suggested place to rent?
I really enjoyed driving scooter in Bali. Which is hardly $10 per day. Can explore many places around the town on your own.[/QUOTE]I strongly oppose renting a scooter to ride around in. The streets are not that nice. Many potholes and there are little to no traffic lights. I would suggest taking cabs with Uber or InDriver.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2662163]...I just have to add make reservations in advance, on 3 separate trips they were fully booked three days out when I wanted to go the night of...[/QUOTE]Does reservation guarantee you have a table by the wall?
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[QUOTE=MadMax9336;2662570]Any idea how much the scooters will be rented and any suggested place to rent?
I really enjoyed driving scooter in Bali. Which is hardly $10 per day. Can explore many places around the town on your own.[/QUOTE]Funny you ask that. I just bought one for me and my gal. If you do an electric scooter under 150 CC I think, no license at all is required. I rented from two places on the main drag in Bocagrande. One place is near the Persian restaurant Persepolis gastrobar. The other is further down on the same street as you go towards the Hilton and the end of the peninsula. Both were 100,000 COP per hour or about $25.
I went ahead and bought one for my gal. Most common type is Auteco but the one I recommend to buy or rent is Strarker. They have a smoother ride, and some have a 50 mile range and can get up to 35 MPH. That is more than enough speed and range for most of Cartagena.
If you rent a scooter, called motos there, for you and a gal you like, you all will have a ball.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2662760]Does reservation guarantee you have a table by the wall?[/QUOTE]To my knowledge when I went it was first come first serve. The only choice we had was smoking or non smoking.
Travellers don't actually need to be at Cafe Del Mar to get good selfie sunset shots as the entire wall along that side gets soaked in int glow at sunset. Its just more of a status thing to say "I was at this famous place during sunset and here a picture to prove it" Instagram flex.
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2662778]Funny you ask that. I just bought one for me and my gal. If you do an electric scooter under 150 CC I think, no license at all is required. I rented from two places on the main drag in Bocagrande. One place is near the Persian restaurant Persepolis gastrobar. The other is further down on the same street as you go towards the Hilton and the end of the peninsula. Both were 100,000 COP per hour or about $25.
I went ahead and bought one for my gal. Most common type is Auteco but the one I recommend to buy or rent is Strarker. They have a smoother ride, and some have a 50 mile range and can get up to 35 MPH. That is more than enough speed and range for most of Cartagena.
If you rent a scooter, called motos there, for you and a gal you like, you all will have a ball.[/QUOTE]Thanks Elvis for the information.
Will sure check those two places. I feel its bit expensive (may be I got spoiled by Bali where I paid around $10 for 3 hours if I remember correctly) as $25/ HR seems to be bit expensive as we might need to keep it for a day or half day at least.
BTW you said "you bought one for gal" does it mean you purchased outright or rented? If its purchase how much is it. Just curious to compare the prices. Not that I am going to. LOL.
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[QUOTE=MadMax9336;2662570]Thanks guys for all the valuable suggestions.
Sorry for the late response as got busy with shopping and packing stuff.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2662855]To my knowledge when I went it was first come first serve. The only choice we had was smoking or non smoking.
Travellers don't actually need to be at Cafe Del Mar to get good selfie sunset shots as the entire wall along that side gets soaked in int glow at sunset. Its just more of a status thing to say "I was at this famous place during sunset and here a picture to prove it" Instagram flex.[/QUOTE]Nypher makes a great point you can watch the sunset from anywere along the wall near the Cafe del Mar. On either side. Grab something to drink and take with you. I think a scooter would not be as fun because the traffic can get crazy.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2662484] They ruined that beach in Phuket from the movie The Beach trying to get Instagram famous with selfies, T.[/QUOTE]I was there at that beach in Thailand in 2011 - Maya Bay, Ko Phi Phi Ley. I agree it is way too crowded. They said that what actually ruined that beach was the movie itself. Before the movie it was only known as a backpacker stop over. They had long boats before that bur not the speedboats loded down with people. I can't imagine how cool it was back then.
I was there about 7 years after the devistating 2004 tsunami that killed about 5000 people in the Phuket area. So on the one hand had it not been for the publicity from the movie it would not have been able to rebuild as fast. I was planning my trip and looking at places on Kho Phi Phi Don to stay I saw that history of the tsunami damage and decided I would be staying in a bungalo way up on a fucking hill. They made a movie that was a true story about one families miraculous survival experience during that tsunami experience called The Impossible.
On the other hand it got so damn crowded that they literally shut the place down from visitors for about two years because the damage to the ecology was so bad. I think the pandemic prolonged it also but was closed for about 4 years.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2662855]To my knowledge when I went it was first come first serve. The only choice we had was smoking or non smoking.
Travellers don't actually need to be at Cafe Del Mar to get good selfie sunset shots as the entire wall along that side gets soaked in int glow at sunset. Its just more of a status thing to say "I was at this famous place during sunset and here a picture to prove it" Instagram flex.[/QUOTE]I have no problem getting seat without reservation the first time that I was there but I need reservation to get the seat by the wall.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2662924]I think a scooter would not be as fun because the traffic can get crazy.[/QUOTE]The part that sucks is the rainy season when there are huge puddles on the road. They can flood the engine and the moto does not work then.
If you ride on the East part of the Bocagrande peninsula, there is not as much traffic. Manga is usually not too bad once you get on the island, and when you go through the walled part of the city, I think it is the best way to go, better than walking or a cab.
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Trip
I typically have gone to the Philippines for my fun, but expense and variety have me wanting to try Cartagena, so any websites that give good info on hotels to stay at for a guy that just wants a lot of sex? I've read all over this city has girls everywhere, but where is a good place to stay that will put me in the middle of the fun since its my first time going here, thanks in advance, PM's are welcome too.
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[QUOTE=SkyWookie;2663266]I typically have gone to the Philippines for my fun, but expense and variety have me wanting to try Cartagena, so any websites that give good info on hotels to stay at for a guy that just wants a lot of sex? I've read all over this city has girls everywhere, but where is a good place to stay that will put me in the middle of the fun since its my first time going here, thanks in advance, PM's are welcome too.[/QUOTE]While there are arguments to be made all around, I've found the best deals in the casas and spas. Photoprepagos, Milerticos, and Skokka are a good place to start. A lot of pros and semi-pros hang out at Colombian / Latin American Cupid. Lots of folks have had great luck with Tinder, while others swear by Seeking Arrangements. Facebook and Instagram are options, as well. Word has it that they flushed out the SW's at the Clock Tower who are now doing business at a triad of bars in ElCentro. That should get you started.
As for hotels, I kind of triangulate between Momodo, Kayak, Google Maps, and AirBnb. Make sure to get specific information about guest policies. Some are prohibited completely, some are charged by the guest, almost all require the girls to show their cedulas (ID cards)
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Smart man anyone who rides around there is nuts.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2662725]I strongly oppose renting a scooter to ride around in. The streets are not that nice. Many potholes and there are little to no traffic lights. I would suggest taking cabs with Uber or InDriver.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2663577]Smart man anyone who rides around there is nuts.[/QUOTE]Absolutely agreed.
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[QUOTE=MadMax9336;2662570]Thanks guys for all the valuable suggestions.
Sorry for the late response as got busy with shopping and packing stuff.
Will note down these places in map and probably will attempt to rent a scooter to stroll around during the afternoon.
Not sure if that is good idea or stick to cabs and / walking?
Any idea how much the scooters will be rented and any suggested place to rent?
I really enjoyed driving scooter in Bali. Which is hardly $10 per day. Can explore many places around the town on your own.[/QUOTE]Save the motorbikes for Bali- city driving in Colombia is a blood sport. I read in a newspaper down here that 300 moto riders die in accidents every month in Medellin alone. Driving down here isn't for the faint of heart, and I definitely wouldn't recommend a moto of any kind. If you're not planning on exploring from town to town and plan to stay in Cartagena, cabs are cheap, plentiful, and far, far safer.
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2663577]Smart man anyone who rides around there is nuts.[/QUOTE]For sure, taxis are cheap and everywhere. The traffic is crazy.
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[QUOTE=MadMax9336;2662923]Thanks Elvis for the information.
Will sure check those two places. I feel its bit expensive (may be I got spoiled by Bali where I paid around $10 for 3 hours if I remember correctly) as $25/ HR seems to be bit expensive as we might need to keep it for a day or half day at least.[/QUOTE]You can try negotiating with them. The last time I rented scooters we were lucky to find any. It was a Sunday. During the week, you may be able to pay less if they have a bunch unrented lying around.
[QUOTE=MadMax9336;2662923]BTW you said "you bought one for gal" does it mean you purchased outright or rented? If its purchase how much is it. Just curious to compare the prices. Not that I am going to. LOL.[/QUOTE]I bought it.
You can see the prices here: [URL]https://dismerca.com/categoria-producto/vehiculos-electricos/[/URL].
My gal and I have been together for a year. I dated a bunch of women off SA / seeking. This one was so beautiful that it barely crossed my mind that she might like me, but the first time we were together she did not ask for any money. Still, I put some in her purse any way. A guy on here, Mr. Enternational, chastised me for giving her anything, so I asked to meet her again. This time I paid her nothing, went at it again and it was great, and instead of paying her, I invited her to Cancun. We had a great time but when we were leaving, the girl was balling her eyes out upset she would not see me again. I thought either she was the greatest actress in the world or crazy in love with me. At that point, it dawned on me that maybe the latter was true.
We saw each other off and on when I could get away over the next 6 months. Her Covid pay had run out. She then was depressed as she had a job in a far away city where we would not meet as much, but the pay was just $500 a month. I told her I would support her then but I really did not like Bogota much (it is great for gals but the altitude and pollution get to me) and asked if she would move to Cartagena. I love how I feel in Cartagena unlike Bogota. She is from Cartagena so it was not much of a sales job at all. She moved there, and we picked out a place I liked.
She has broken all the rules for me. Usually the sex and the effort women put out is best in the beginning. That is not the case with her. She is better sexually now than she has ever been. She looks as good now as when we first met, keeps the apartment so clean you could eat off the floors, packs my suitcases, does my laundry, clips my nails, and is a fabulous cook.
So I fly to CTG to see her every month, and one of the reasons I have not strayed is that I know any other woman would be a disappointment. But I really bought the scooter so I could use it. I was sick of the constant waiting for Ubers and a taxi and the renting of scooters, and I do not like walking there. The sidewalks are cramped and full of holes, and it is just not a pleasant experience.
Sorry for the novel, but I do not recommend other guys doing this. My gal is a unicorn, and there are very few Colombian women I would trust.
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[QUOTE=SkyWookie;2663266] thanks in advance, PM's are welcome too.[/QUOTE]I am surprised that the administrator did not flag your message and tell you this: you do not have a PM. You need to pay for a membership to have a PM.
Hotels suck. You need a chica friendly apartment. Look throught the thread that I am supplying the link to below and find the name Juan Ventura and his website. You may have to read about three pages of reporst so do not stop on the first page.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2483-Cartagena-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments/page2[/URL]
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Adri from Tinder / Space
Age: 25.
Time as prepago: at least 2 years.
Punctuality: Wanted to schedule for 6 pm, but she had an eyebrow appointment that would postpone it to 7 pm, showed up 40 minutes late.
Face / Body type: short thick Venezolana with fake boobs, amazing ass, and a tight core / waist, 3rd degree burns on left boob and right arm (revealed that she fell asleep on a hot compressor at the dentist bc she was nervous), Looks 5/10 (Prominent chin, think Jay Leno).
Personality: Masseuse / very sweet and muy tranquilo / kept me very relaxed throughout the appointment.
Talent: CBJ (deep throated, did the gawk gawk for the ego).
Doggy was superb as her ass was my favorite feature of hers (her hands were just as good).
My experience: She suggested to have sex before the massage (right call! Amazing 40 min massage after sex, she kept in touch afterward bc I tipped her well.
Cost: 300 k COP for massage / sex, time duration about 1 HR 45 min + tip (for repeat sake bc she liked getting high before sex).
Offers just massage for (100 k COP).
Recommend: yes for massage and doggy.
Repeat: yes with weed.
Contact for info.
Happy Hunting!
JBH.
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Patri from Tinder
Age: 25.
Time as prepago: Unk.
Punctuality: Scheduled for 7 pm, delayed to 730 claiming mucho traffic.
Face / Body type: showed up 15-20 lbs heavier than her pictures (tinder is kind of a bust for this reason, bait / switch with old photos, see pics), looks 6/10 (probably more attractive when she was slimmer).
Hijos: unk.
Personality: Hairdresser, bubbly and tries to act cute.
Talent: BBBJ 7/10, sucked the boys, no CIM.
My experience: Low sexual stamina, had a hard time finishing, jacked off myself while her mouth was on my dick (felt like I was punching her face bc I was jacking off so hard).
Quit before finishing the 2nd round, she wanted to leave early claiming she was hungry.
Offered her the opportunity to leave early if she let me take pictures, she definitely had low self esteem bc she kept denying the pictures and wanted to turn off the lights before sex.
Outcome: got some shitty pictures. Enjoy!
Cost: Paid 100 USD for two hours, but she wanted to be paid in COP when the proposition was made in USD, let her leave 20 minutes early bc I was getting a haircut from her the next day and didn't want her to fuck up my hair.
Recommend: no.
Repeat: no.
Haircut: never got my haircut as she said she was fully booked when I contacted her the day after our appointment.
Lesson learned! Don't trust these working girls!
Happy hunting!
JBH.
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Mia de Playa Hollywood
I tried to setup a threesome with a tinder girl, Valeria and her friend, but it was a bust as the two girls were extremely late. The appointment was set for 6 pm from the day before. Then, Valeria postponed it to 7 pm about two hours before the set time. To which I replied, no more delays please, I have plans. She agrees, but when 7 pm comes around, she replies that she will be arriving around 730. This was when I reached my breaking point with girls being late. Since there are girls readily available at a moment's notice, I proceed to tell her to not come anymore and I'll not wait for her. She responds saying that she is already on her way. I replied not my problem and blocked her number. In retrospect, I probably dodged a bullet as I read that threesomes is usually when the robberies happen.
At 720 pm, I reached out to Mia, a Venezuelan that I met that day with the famous Tony Montana (fuck that guy!) at his Playa Hollywood bar and asked her to come over at 830 pm for an hour as she was close to Bocagrande, where I was staying.
Age: 25.
Time as prepago: at least 3 years in CTG, unknown time in Medellin.
Punctuality: scheduled at 830 pm, arrived 15 mins late.
Body type: Petite Venezolana with saggy tits and nice proportioned ass.
Hijos: 1 child at 7 yo, 18 yo when she had the kid.
Personality: Fun, skunky, likes to talk shit and laugh, speaks minimal English.
Talent: No DFK.
CBJ.
Perfect sized ass, was able to get in deep, felt like she enjoyed it because she allowed me to pound her from behind for awhile.
Cost: 250 k / HR (typical price I was getting from girls on tinder and Playa Hollywood: 200-300 k COP / HR, 300-400 k COP or $100 USD / 2 hrs).
Stay for the whole hour.
My experience: this Venezolana couldn't take dick for more than 30 minutes, complained that I was fucking for too long and wasn't focused on cumming, had to really concentrate to finish, and then she talked shit when there wasn't much leche LOL. Also, she trusted me enough to leave behind a baggie of the good stuff. She did so because she was heading to work at the centro afterwards and the police have been searching the girls regularly. (More on this baggie in the next review).
Recommend: no.
Repeat: no.
Contact for info.
Happy Hunting!
JBH.
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Vanessa de Monumento Torre del Reloj
Age: 25.
Time as prepago: 6 months.
Punctuality: Booked her as a nightcap as I was leaving the clocktower in an uber and she showed up 30 minutes after.
Face / Body type: Slender with bug eyed titties and fake butt implants. (I think she doesn't likes her body because she Insisted on having the lights off with the tv on), Not the prettiest face 7/10, but I was in the mood for fake titties and ass.
Hijos: none.
Personality: Really kind, loves dancing, Extremely sexual.
Talent: No DFK (I find that most girls don't kiss you here in Cartagena).
CBJ, really wanted to see her face while she performed, but we were only lit by the light of the TV.
Sexual Stamina, Could really fuck (went for a whole 40 minutes before we both tapped out).
Cowgirl was amazing, felt like I was getting fucked.
POV in doggy was my favorite out of the girls from this trip by far, however, it did not feel the best.
My experience: Smoked a little joint together from a baggie that was left behind by a previous girl a few hours ago. I think this really loosened things up because it started off really freaky and nasty. Found her G spot in missionary and we enjoyed ourselves in that position for about 10 minutes. Things got a little tense as she was leaving because I didn't have any cab money. Well, I only had 50 k COP and didn't want to give her too much so I got her an uber and things were tranquilo.
After sex, we talked for a bit and the discussion of how long is the ideal time for sex and for her, the ideal duration was about 20 minutes. To me, this was great insight for how to be a better lover.
Cost: 300 k COP / HR (a little on the expensive side, but I was drunk / horny and IMO she fit the mold of a light skinned Afrocolombianas).
Stayed the whole hour.
Recommend: Yes, if you like light-skinned Afrocolombianas.
Repeat: Yes Definitely.
Contact for info.
Happy Hunting!
JBH.
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Wait let me guess. . you are in construction?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2663617]You can try negotiating with them. The last time I rented scooters we were lucky to find any. It was a Sunday. During the week, you may be able to pay less if they have a bunch unrented lying around.
I bought it.
You can see the prices here: [URL]https://dismerca.com/categoria-producto/vehiculos-electricos/[/URL].
My gal and I have been together for a year. I dated a bunch of women off SA / seeking. This one was so beautiful that it barely crossed my mind that she might like me, but the first time we were together she did not ask for any money. Still, I put some in her purse any way. A guy on here, Mr. Enternational, chastised me for giving her anything, so I asked to meet her again. This time I paid her nothing, went at it again and it was great, and instead of paying her, I invited her to Cancun. We had a great time but when we were leaving, the girl was balling her eyes out upset she would not see me again. I thought either she was the greatest actress in the world or crazy in love with me. At that point, it dawned on me that maybe the latter was true.
We saw each other off and on when I could get away over the next 6 months. Her Covid pay had run out. She then was depressed as she had a job in a far away city where we would not meet as much, but the pay was just $500 a month. I told her I would support her then but I really did not like Bogota much (it is great for gals but the altitude and pollution get to me) and asked if she would move to Cartagena. I love how I feel in Cartagena unlike Bogota. She is from Cartagena so it was not much of a sales job at all. She moved there, and we picked out a place I liked.
She has broken all the rules for me. Usually the sex and the effort women put out is best in the beginning. That is not the case with her. She is better sexually now than she has ever been. She looks as good now as when we first met, keeps the apartment so clean you could eat off the floors, packs my suitcases, does my laundry, clips my nails, and is a fabulous cook.
So I fly to CTG to see her every month, and one of the reasons I have not strayed is that I know any other woman would be a disappointment. But I really bought the scooter so I could use it. I was sick of the constant waiting for Ubers and a taxi and the renting of scooters, and I do not like walking there. The sidewalks are cramped and full of holes, and it is just not a pleasant experience.
Sorry for the novel, but I do not recommend other guys doing this. My gal is a unicorn, and there are very few Colombian women I would trust.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2664215]Wait let me guess. . you are in construction?[/QUOTE]Far from that. I will be back in the beginning of March. Are you going to be in Cartagena then?
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Si. Laguito.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2664221]Far from that. I will be back in the beginning of March. Are you going to be in Cartagena then?[/QUOTE]
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No DFK?
Thanks JBH for the reviews!
Someone please tell me that no DFK and CBJ are not the standard in CTG!
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Tati de Dulce Vita
After getting a PCR swab during the day, I felt I did all I could to stay negative while in Cartagena before flying out to Rio de Janeiro, so I let Jesus take the wheel and decided to go to a packed nightclub (Dulce Vita). This place really is what it is described with chicas lined wall to wall, all ranging from 7-10 in looks depending on what you like. It definitely helps if you got a little game and speak some Spanglish as the phone reception in that club is horrible (no google translate).
Dulce Vita in particular catered more to the fair skinned chicas (Paisas, Venezolanas, etc.), where as Delirium were filled mostly with Afrocolombianas. Space from what I gathered with my limited time inside was a mixture of the two and those that didn't fit either of the two molds.
Age: 25.
Time as prepago: 7 months.
Punctuality: Unknown, met her at Dulce Vita and left from there back to the airbnb.
Face / Body type: Petite with a tight body (works out regularly), looks 7/10.
Hijos: none.
Personality: Friendly and sweet, Had a great connection with her in the club, she spoke a little English so it helped.
Talent: Started with DFK.
Then to CBJ 7/10.
Super tight pussy, needed ky to get it in at first. After a little bit, her pussy was nice and wet.
She enjoyed doggy but nice and slow, made her orgasm so hard she jumped off the dick, finished the first round in doggy.
After some pillow talk, she revealed that she likes cum on her face (no extra), no problema para mi.
Had a little trouble cumming on her face at first and tried to stick it in her mouth bb.
First she licked, then she full on BBBJ (no extra).
Finished majesty on her cara (first time this trip and my god it was a sight to behold).
My Experience: I had a really good connection with this chica and it translated to what she was willing to do for me. I think it was because I made her cum hard before I did and treated her like a gentlemen. It seems like to me if the chica likes you enough and you are kind to them, the common CBJ of Cartagena (as some do offer BBBJ) can become a BBBJ. YMMV. Side note: she shared that 20 minutes is the ideal time for the duration of sex for this chica.
Cost: 300 k COP / HR (stayed for 1 HR 45 minutes).
Recommend: Yes if she would let you terminar en cara.
Repeat: Yes in a heart beat.
Second date w / Tati.
Punctuality: Wanted to schedule for 4-5 pm before the big game and planned on having dinner afterwards, but she had an allergic reaction (she gave me updates of her swollen eye every other hour) and had to postpone until 9 pm, arrives at 1030 pm in a revealing top.
My Experience: Very GFE as prices were not discussed (could have gone either way), we talked for about 1. 5 hrs before any action, single Road of deeply passionate sex (BBBJ, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl: her fav position to orgasm in, then doggy: my fav position to orgasm in), she came first in reverse cowgirl then after a while in doggy, I whipped her around to terminar en cara, a healthy amount of two days worth (read in a post about sperm management and decided to try it / worth it!
Cost: 300 k COP / HR +tip + uber home.
Stayed for 3 hrs (would have been overnight if my outbound flight wasn't early in the morning).
Trying my best not to get caught writing this while we lay next to each other, half watching a movie.
Forgive me as I'm keeping this one to myself for a bit.
Happy hunting!
JBH.
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[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2664827]Thanks JBH for the reviews!
Someone please tell me that no DFK and CBJ are not the standard in CTG![/QUOTE]Yes it is typical, if you are to pick one off the street there. YMMV. Sometimes, they may want extra with BBBJ.
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Ymmv
[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2664827]Thanks JBH for the reviews!
Someone please tell me that no DFK and CBJ are not the standard in CTG![/QUOTE]Its depends on the Monger. If they are into you they will do it for free, if they aren't they will charge extra. If they see you as a one timer, they will try to get the most out of your pocket, if they know you as a regular, they will see you as safe work.
Don't assume anything. Ask her all your questions up front and know what you are getting before you agree to anything and never take them out the club unless you are committed. The chica can turn from sweet to demonic in a heartbeat as once she's out the club the doormen may not let her back into the club to get another gringo.
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[QUOTE=JacsBrokeHeart;2664834]After getting a PCR swab during the day, I felt I did all I could to stay negative while in Cartagena before flying out to Rio de Janeiro, so I let Jesus take the wheel and decided to go to a packed nightclub (Dulce Vita). This place really is what it is described with chicas lined wall to wall, all ranging from 7-10 in looks depending on what you like. It definitely helps if you got a little game and speak some Spanglish as the phone reception in that club is horrible (no google translate).
Dulce Vita in particular catered more to the fair skinned chicas (Paisas, Venezolanas, etc.), where as Delirium were filled mostly with Afrocolombianas. Space from what I gathered with my limited time inside was a mixture of the two and those that didn't fit either of the two molds.
Age: 25.
Time as prepago: 7 months.
Punctuality: Unknown, met her at Dulce Vita and left from there back to the airbnb.
Face / Body type: Petite with a tight body (works out regularly), looks 7/10.
Hijos: none.
Personality: Friendly and sweet, Had a great connection with her in the club, she spoke a little English so it helped.
Talent: Started with DFK.
Then to CBJ 7/10.
Super tight pussy, needed ky to get it in at first. After a little bit, her pussy was nice and wet.
She enjoyed doggy but nice and slow, made her orgasm so hard she jumped off the dick, finished the first round in doggy.
After some pillow talk, she revealed that she likes cum on her face (no extra), no problema para mi.
Had a little trouble cumming on her face at first and tried to stick it in her mouth bb.
First she licked, then she full on BBBJ (no extra)..[/QUOTE]I know this one in the photos and saw her in Dulce in March 2021. She may say she's only doing it 7 months but she's been doing it way longer on Tinder since she could.
Seems you are negotiating with these chicas in peso / hour, that's all well and good until that one chica comes along who wants to dance, play in the pool, drink, talk, etc then after the polvo and they are ready to go to the next gringo, they want 3 x the agreed amount because they were there for 3 hours even though sex only lasted 30 minutes.
As for the club descriptions you're spot on and I try to explain that to many first timers so they know where to go to get what they want.
Delirium. HipHop club. Mostly Afrocolombian chicas and the light skin chicas that are in there will over charge. The light skin ones will walk over from Space and go to Delirium when they aren't getting anything from Space.
Dolce. The saying is that they only let in the best-looking girls. Well that highly subjective as its mostly light skin chicas and most of them have fake tits and asses. Trying to find a natural girl in there is very slim. I only know of 4.
Space. The middle ground. This is a mixture of everything and I do mean everything. Big girls, old girls, young girls, etc. Best bang for the buck for me.
I normally do Space because I can avoid the nonsense of the 1 UP mongers in Delirium who spend money they don't have to impress people they don't know, I do Dolce once or twice during a trip but not a fan of the forced bottle service in order to get in, along with they only seem to have big bottles, never the small ones. Normally I just text my chica and tell her come out and we go to another club.
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No Love for Cartagena
Now that I've visited Cartagena a second time just to make sure I didn't judge too quickly or harshly, I have to say that I really don't like Cartagena. Parts of the city, especially the old city, are truly beautiful, and there are some nice beaches on the islands. Other than that, this is just a high priced tourist trap where everything is priced two to three times the rest of the country. I started out in Barranquilla this time- a cheaper flight from FLL than Cartagena, and found both the lodgings and chicas a great bargain. Very nice hotel rooms for the $30-50 range with plenty of decent Colombian family hotels in the $10-20 range. Lots of spas and casas, as well as beau coups of agencies and independents, with prices ranging from $40 k COP for 20 min up to about $150 k for an hour of top shelf cooter. Barranquilla is a port town, and you know how those sailors like their chicas. They’re not only cheaper, but far more appreciative of the occasional propina. Not only that, Barranquilla is the culinary capital of Colombia- there are probably twice as many restaurants there as Cartagena, and they're all cheaper and better. FWIW, the beaches at Santa Marta and Rodadero are much better and an easy rental car drive from BQA.
Other than that, Medellin is still the Gold Standard. I meant to check out Bucaramanga, which seems a bit like Barranquilla economically, but it'll have to wait. Save your money and go just about anywhere other than Cartagena.
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Cartagena was my original destination for my first visit to Colombia. I didn't know much of the country, but Cartagena'a beautiful weather made it seem like a natural choice. However, after doing my research here and other sites, I realized it was a very limited city compared to Medellin and Bogota. The beaches are not nice, which kinda defeats the purpose of going to a coastal city. And there's not much else to do in between getting laid.
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Not a fan!
I'm no fan of Cartagena either. My ranking of the big 5 is as follows:
1. Bogota.
2. Medellin.
3. Cali.
4. Cartagena.
5. Barranquilla.
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Kissing is not something to negotiate just happens or not as far as the covered blowjob,. This is something you negotiate in advance for the most part. . Generally I'll take it in whenever direction the girl wants to and I'll make a little offer in advance for the BBBJ.
[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2664827]Thanks JBH for the reviews!
Someone please tell me that no DFK and CBJ are not the standard in CTG![/QUOTE]
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These are all good points,. What time is the action started Space? I like to get things arranged as early as possible. ,. thanks.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2664958]I know this one in the photos and saw her in Dulce in March 2021. She may say she's only doing it 7 months but she's been doing it way longer on Tinder since she could.
Seems you are negotiating with these chicas in peso / hour, that's all well and good until that one chica comes along who wants to dance, play in the pool, drink, talk, etc then after the polvo and they are ready to go to the next gringo, they want 3 x the agreed amount because they were there for 3 hours even though sex only lasted 30 minutes.
As for the club descriptions you're spot on and I try to explain that to many first timers so they know where to go to get what they want.
Delirium. HipHop club. Mostly Afrocolombian chicas and the light skin chicas that are in there will over charge. The light skin ones will walk over from Space and go to Delirium when they aren't getting anything from Space.
Dolce. The saying is that they only let in the best-looking girls. Well that highly subjective as its mostly light skin chicas and most of them have fake tits and asses. Trying to find a natural girl in there is very slim. I only know of 4.
Space. The middle ground. This is a mixture of everything and I do mean everything. Big girls, old girls, young girls, etc. Best bang for the buck for me.
I normally do Space because I can avoid the nonsense of the 1 UP mongers in Delirium who spend money they don't have to impress people they don't know, I do Dolce once or twice during a trip but not a fan of the forced bottle service in order to get in, along with they only seem to have big bottles, never the small ones. Normally I just text my chica and tell her come out and we go to another club.[/QUOTE]
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Staying in Cartagena
For those planning to stay at a 4 or 5 star hotel in Cartagena, please bear in mind you won't be allowed to check in with a venezuelan girl who didn't enter Colombia legally.
It happened to me last week. After spending a few days together in SMarta where the girl joined me by plane from Bog where she lives, I booked the Dann hotel in CTG Bocagrande beach for three nights only to be told at the reception my friend wouldn't be allowed to stay because she couldn't produce a duly stamped passport showing she had entered Colombia legally.
We ended up staying in CTG north beaches, Morros area in an apartement booked at Sonesta hotel reception, where we had dinner that same evening. You can take a plane, have meals at hotels, enjoy the swimming pool, swim at the beach, etc, but you can't stay overnight.
No problems in SMarta where we stayed at AC Marriott.
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[QUOTE=Tavares;2665378]For those planning to stay at a 4 or 5 star hotel in Cartagena, please bear in mind you won't be allowed to check in with a venezuelan girl who didn't enter Colombia legally.
It happened to me last week. After spending a few days together in SMarta where the girl joined me by plane from Bog where she lives, I booked the Dann hotel in CTG Bocagrande beach for three nights only to be told at the reception my friend wouldn't be allowed to stay because she couldn't produce a duly stamped passport showing she had entered Colombia legally.
We ended up staying in CTG north beaches, Morros area in an apartement booked at Sonesta hotel reception, where we had dinner that same evening. You can take a plane, have meals at hotels, enjoy the swimming pool, swim at the beach, etc, but you can't stay overnight.
No problems in SMarta where we stayed at AC Marriott.[/QUOTE]I have read carious accounts of the laws around this, it seems to happen a lot that Venezuelans are not allowed in some places but there are also those who report that it is not legal to bar Venezuealans because they they actually have some type of legal status called Temporary Statute of Protection for Venezuelan Migrants (TSPVM) due to Venezuela being virtually a failed state. Them more recently I read that Venezuelans can go and register (does not say anything about needing a passport to get temporary residence but you would think they need some ID) I know this is probably too late information for but I am not sure that the Vennies are even aware of this.
[URL]https://www.loc.gov/item/global-legal-monitor/2021-05-13/colombia-registration-of-venezuelan-nationals-for-legal-immigration-status-begins/[/URL]
Did you end up getting her into some place?
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2665354]These are all good points,. What time is the action started Space? I like to get things arranged as early as possible..[/QUOTE]You can get there as early as 9 pm but most girls don't start arriving until 10 pm. I normally get there around 9:30 and leave around 11:30 or midnight. By midnight you will notice most of the good ones are gone or they are grouped up by the bar area trying to get attention from whoever is in the VIP. The others that hardly get attention will group up in the back by the bathroom entrance, and the decent ones still trying to get attention will group up in front of the DJ booth before leaving and heading over to Delirium.
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[QUOTE=Tavares;2665378]For those planning to stay at a 4 or 5 star hotel in Cartagena, please bear in mind you won't be allowed to check in with a venezuelan girl who didn't enter Colombia legally.
It happened to me last week. After spending a few days together in SMarta where the girl joined me by plane from Bog where she lives, I booked the Dann hotel in CTG Bocagrande beach for three nights only to be told at the reception my friend wouldn't be allowed to stay because she couldn't produce a duly stamped passport showing she had entered Colombia legally.
We ended up staying in CTG north beaches, Morros area in an apartement booked at Sonesta hotel reception, where we had dinner that same evening. You can take a plane, have meals at hotels, enjoy the swimming pool, swim at the beach, etc, but you can't stay overnight.
No problems in SMarta where we stayed at AC Marriott.[/QUOTE]This is a reason why I never stay at hotels or areas with security as I want zero restrictions on who can come in or who can stay over.
You ended up staying almost at the border where it turns from luxury to poverty. Right next to that building is a wall with a huge empty lot and the highway turns from a 2 way highway into a 1 way highway leading cars back to Centro. Completely fucked up my mind the first time it happened to me as were driving then all of a sudden, all the cars were coming at us and that's when we realized we ran out of road for our side of the street jajaja. Good times, good times luckily it was in the daytime.
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[QUOTE=Tavares;2665378]For those planning to stay at a 4 or 5 star hotel in Cartagena, please bear in mind you won't be allowed to check in with a venezuelan girl who didn't enter Colombia legally.
It happened to me last week. After spending a few days together in SMarta where the girl joined me by plane from Bog where she lives, I booked the Dann hotel in CTG Bocagrande beach for three nights only to be told at the reception my friend wouldn't be allowed to stay because she couldn't produce a duly stamped passport showing she had entered Colombia legally.
We ended up staying in CTG north beaches, Morros area in an apartement booked at Sonesta hotel reception, where we had dinner that same evening. You can take a plane, have meals at hotels, enjoy the swimming pool, swim at the beach, etc, but you can't stay overnight.
No problems in SMarta where we stayed at AC Marriott.[/QUOTE]Do you know what the visitor policy is at the AC Marriott in Santa Marta? I am planning to go there ASAP to visit a chica and her friend and look around for some other chicas.
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[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2665413]Do you know what the visitor policy is at the AC Marriott in Santa Marta? I am planning to go there ASAP to visit a chica and her friend and look around for some other chicas.[/QUOTE]No problems whatsover either at AC Marriott or at a 4 star hotel in the centre of SM called Plaza Catedral which by the way I don't recommend.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2665396]This is a reason why I never stay at hotels or areas with security as I want zero restrictions on who can come in or who can stay over.
You ended up staying almost at the border where it turns from luxury to poverty. Right next to that building is a wall with a huge empty lot and the highway turns from a 2 way highway into a 1 way highway leading cars back to Centro. Completely fucked up my mind the first time it happened to me as were driving then all of a sudden, all the cars were coming at us and that's when we realized we ran out of road for our side of the street jajaja. Good times, good times luckily it was in the daytime.[/QUOTE]Right and because there was a problem with hot water at that apartment in Morros we moved beyond that border to a small (shitty) beach hotel called Kerilé which had no hot water and one morning not even water for 2 hours! A small inconvenience compared to the pleasure of making the girl squirt like crazy.
One night we had dinner in historical CTG and got back to the hotel quite late by taxi. The driver seemed unimpressed when we told him the address but after the wall you mentioned he locked the car doors: bit scary after dark.
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I Thaks, ?'ll check it out in to weeks has the clock tower scene returned. At all. ?
[QUOTE=Nypher;2665394]You can get there as early as 9 pm but most girls don't start arriving until 10 pm. I normally get there around 9:30 and leave around 11:30 or midnight. By midnight you will notice most of the good ones are gone or they are grouped up by the bar area trying to get attention from whoever is in the VIP. The others that hardly get attention will group up in the back by the bathroom entrance, and the decent ones still trying to get attention will group up in front of the DJ booth before leaving and heading over to Delirium.[/QUOTE]
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Cartagena 7th to 17th May
I'm going to be in Cartagena on the 7th to 17th May; if there are any other fellow travellers going to be around, I'm always up for meeting for drinks and plotting our way around the bars and the legendary square.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyWishBone;2665707]I'm going to be in Cartagena on the 7th to 17th May; if there are any other fellow travellers going to be around, I'm always up for meeting for drinks and plotting our way around the bars and the legendary square.[/QUOTE]I just got back from my trip to Brazil for 2 weeks and I am potentially considering May second week for my next spot and Cartagena. I am going to be collecting some info and do RTFF and make it official (ticket and stuff) next week. Would you mind if I ask. What are your goals there? And what you plan to cover (Boates, terma etc.) - aka. Enlightening me what Cartagena has to offer in mongering.
I am in my mid 30's and consider myself in decent shape while I am definitely not the hot looking masculine guy out there. Haha. My goal for the visit will be eat (no priority in food), sleep, sex and repeat. Would love to tag along other mongers out there.
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[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2666498]I just got back from my trip to Brazil for 2 weeks and I am potentially considering May second week for my next spot and Cartagena. I am going to be collecting some info and do RTFF and make it official (ticket and stuff) next week. Would you mind if I ask. What are your goals there? And what you plan to cover (Boates, terma etc.) - aka. Enlightening me what Cartagena has to offer in mongering.
I am in my mid 30's and consider myself in decent shape while I am definitely not the hot looking masculine guy out there. Haha. My goal for the visit will be eat (no priority in food), sleep, sex and repeat. Would love to tag along other mongers out there.[/QUOTE]You probably want to consider paying for a membership on this forum so you can use the Private Message service. Some people are willing to share more information in a PM and if you end up finding someone who is visiting at the same time as you they can only share contact details in a PM.
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Going to Cartagena for the first time
I've been reading and researching for a long time, finally going to make my first trip in a week.
1. Any restaurants people recommend?
2. Any good spas? I love to intersperse an excellent relaxing massage with all the action, and sometimes reward a girl or two, gets them in an excellent mood.
3. If anyone has any recommendations for girls they want / can pm me, I'm always down for a good referral.
Finally, just wanted to thank this board as I don't think I'd ever had the balls to try the country out without reading everyone's trip reports, Ill try and give back after my trip.
Good luck to all.
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[QUOTE=Josh333;2666816]I've been reading and researching for a long time, finally going to make my first trip in a week.
1. Any restaurants people recommend?
2. Any good spas? I love to intersperse an excellent relaxing massage with all the action, and sometimes reward a girl or two, gets them in an excellent mood.
3. If anyone has any recommendations for girls they want / can pm me, I'm always down for a good referral.
Finally, just wanted to thank this board as I don't think I'd ever had the balls to try the country out without reading everyone's trip reports, Ill try and give back after my trip.
Good luck to all.[/QUOTE]
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Hampton Inn
Just finishing my stay at the Hampton Inn in Bocagrande, and they have been very girl friendly for many years, but sadly that has come to an end. You can now just register one guest for free, and after that you have to pay 150 k pesos per visitor. Change happened sometime a couple weeks ago, front desk couldn't say exactly why, just that they had some problems and this was a corporate decision from Bogota. So it seems like they definitely don't want our business.
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[QUOTE=Tkmoney;2667271]Just finishing my stay at the Hampton Inn in Bocagrande, and they have been very girl friendly for many years, but sadly that has come to an end. You can now just register one guest for free, and after that you have to pay 150 k pesos per visitor. Change happened sometime a couple weeks ago, front desk couldn't say exactly why, just that they had some problems and this was a corporate decision from Bogota. So it seems like they definitely don't want our business.[/QUOTE]IMO this corporate decision is based on economics. Another way to contribute to the bottom line! Got to pay to play. Luvchicas.
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I'll be around for the next two weeks at playa Hollywood. With. The. Fruit madres and beach hookers.and hustlers. Anyone wants to hang out.....hottest bitches in bikinis.
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2665690]I Thaks, ?'ll check it out in to weeks has the clock tower scene returned. At all. ?[/QUOTE]I have no info on this yet as my girls are just doing Tinder. They must have make a killing over the holiday or built up enough Western Union Pappis to hold them over and not do the clubs for a while.
Ill be there in a few weeks and will report back what I see and how things changed from December.
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2668838]I'll be around for the next two weeks at playa Hollywood. With. The. Fruit madres and beach hookers.and hustlers. Anyone wants to hang out.....hottest bitches in bikinis.[/QUOTE]I will be there with a friend landing tomorrow till Wednesday. Staying by the beach in Bocagrande. Can't get PM's here not sure how to meet up.
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Mirador del Laguito Penthouse
Hey guys, after RTFF I saw MDL was guest friendly and I decided to stay there.
Has anyone stayed in the 2 story penthouse with hot tub? Any suggestions or recommendations for staying there? I assume they check IDs at security?
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[QUOTE=FrankBills007;2670051]I will be there with a friend landing tomorrow till Wednesday. Staying by the beach in Bocagrande. Can't get PM's here not sure how to meet up.[/QUOTE]Just because you do not have a PM does not mean you cannot say where you will be at a certain time. Someplace as crowded as the beach is not going to work. I would suggest stting up a time and meeting outside Supermercado La Estrella. It is between the entrance to Playa Hollywood and The Hotel Dan. It is near where the road forks going into El Laguito. Good place to meet if you are going to Playa Hollywood nearby. Kafka probably already knows where it is from the directions but you can copy and paste these coordinates into Google Maps and it will show you where it is 10.397597, -75.562696.
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[QUOTE=SmokersRule;2670112]Hey guys, after RTFF I saw MDL was guest friendly and I decided to stay there.
Has anyone stayed in the 2 story penthouse with hot tub? Any suggestions or recommendations for staying there? I assume they check IDs at security?[/QUOTE]I have not stayed there that building but it was like 8 years ago then they used to only allow one visitor at a time. And all buildings in Colombia require IDs. The owner and the building sometimes have different rules You should write to the owner of the apartment and just ask them straight up what the building rules are.
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Everyone is at Playa Hollywood, too many girls to even count. At the bar, in the chairs. , Packs of two and three. You'll find the action its all over. You can ask Tony for me. The exchange rate is so good. They're trying to raise the prices. . I am even digging the music...... Tomorrow and Saturday are going to be off the hook
[QUOTE=FranktyeBills007;2670051]I will be there with a friend landing tomorrow till Wednesday. Staying by the beach in Bocagrande. Can't get PM's here not sure how to meet up.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2670225]Everyone is at Playa Hollywood, too many girls to even count. At the bar, in the chairs. , Packs of two and three. You'll find the action its all over. You can ask Tony for me. The exchange rate is so good. They're trying to raise the prices. . I am even digging the music...... Tomorrow and Saturday are going to be off the hook[/QUOTE]Ohh yeah I was there yesterday. I don't know Tony or this part of the beach well. I am staying at Galeria 9#1-140 entrance is from the side street. I am outside during the day sitting by the entrance with my bro, if you walk buy say Hi. I'll be at Dolce and Space tonight.
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The lobby is on like the 12th floor you can by pass the lobby with your girl I just did it 2 weeks ago.
[QUOTE=Tkmoney;2667271]Just finishing my stay at the Hampton Inn in Bocagrande, and they have been very girl friendly for many years, but sadly that has come to an end. You can now just register one guest for free, and after that you have to pay 150 k pesos per visitor. Change happened sometime a couple weeks ago, front desk couldn't say exactly why, just that they had some problems and this was a corporate decision from Bogota. So it seems like they definitely don't want our business.[/QUOTE]
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Party House
Anyone know a good party house with 6 to 8 bedrooms that is guest friendly?, we are also looking for 6 to 8 non pro party girls for a bachelor's party for 3 days.
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Its not that simple
[QUOTE=Ravi50;2672814]Anyone know a good party house with 6 to 8 bedrooms that is guest friendly?, we are also looking for 6 to 8 non pro party girls for a bachelor's party for 3 days.[/QUOTE]For the first part of your question, look on Airbnb and filter the options for your need. Be prepared to spend about $700 a night. You haven't given any timeframe for this event so availability of property is vague.
For the second part of your question that's another vague one. 6 - 8 non pros? Sure I know plenty of 35 year old moms in CTG that will love to show up to your Batchlor party. Everyone have preferences and asking for something without stating what your looking for, anything can show up, even the hombres con tetas jajaja.
Do you want them light or dark?
Big or slim?
Natural or lots of surgeries?
Skank tattoos or clean skin?
How much are you willing to pay each girl just for showing up and how much are you willing to pay on top of that for any services she performs or are those negotiable per Monger depending of the service he asks for?
Contact OnFireBoy with exactly what you're looking for and talk timeframe and prices.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/member.php?655424-OnFireBoy[/URL]
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Sorry I missed you. If you around I'm still here.
[QUOTE=FrankBills007;2671289]Ohh yeah I was there yesterday. I don't know Tony or this part of the beach well. I am staying at Galeria 9#1-140 entrance is from the side street. I am outside during the day sitting by the entrance with my bro, if you walk buy say Hi. I'll be at Dolce and Space tonight.[/QUOTE]
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ST hotel near Isis
Went to Cartagena several years ago and went to club Isis. I haven't read anything on here lately about it so it must be closed. But that's fine as there are the three other hot spots. My question is about the short time motel that they were using at Isis. I remember it was walking left out of the club (I think) then down the street on the right. Is that place still there and a good option? Anyone know the name? Google maps is not very helpful.
Any other ST hotel recommendations in old town near LDV, etc. Would be appreciated. I'd rather pick the place than to depend on a chica to take me somewhere that might be a setup for robbing me. The reason I'm opting for short time hotels is because I'm finding it hard to find a suitable Airbnb in centro that also allows chicas. I know there are Juan's spots but I want to be in centro.
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[QUOTE=Ozu2019;2672891]Went to Cartagena several years ago and went to club Isis. I haven't read anything on here lately about it so it must be closed. But that's fine as there are the three other hot spots. My question is about the short time motel that they were using at Isis. I remember it was walking left out of the club (I think) then down the street on the right. Is that place still there and a good option? Anyone know the name? Google maps is not very helpful.
Any other ST hotel recommendations in old town near LDV, etc. Would be appreciated. I'd rather pick the place than to depend on a chica to take me somewhere that might be a setup for robbing me. The reason I'm opting for short time hotels is because I'm finding it hard to find a suitable Airbnb in centro that also allows chicas. I know there are Juan's spots but I want to be in centro.[/QUOTE]You got your directions must have been after a ton of drinking jajaja. The Hotel you speak of is directly across the street when you step out of Isis. Its Hotel El Viajero.
Also its easy to find guest friendly Airbnb's in Centro, a few are actually 1 - 2 blocks away from Space / Dolce and Delirium. It all comes down to what you are willing to pay per night, how early you reserve it, and its availability. Many mongers wait till last minute and that almost never works. I usually book months in advance so I get the place I want.
Here's a freebie, its on average $100 a night, guest friendly and located above the Exito Express directly around the corner from Isis. Literary 1 minute walk. Operating the gate is a little tricky though but once you get use to it its easy.
[URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/30538678?adults=2&children=0&infants=0&check_in=2022-03-24&check_out=2022-04-04&source_impression_id=p3_1646975734_XE%2Ba%2Blvu0ar1gxn5[/URL]
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1) I am looking in Airbnb, that budget is not an issue, the listings don't mention if they are guest friendly, so having to contact the hosts is taking time.
2) Light skinned all under 25, good looking, all natural, average to curvy, not too many tattoos. I am thinking 100 $ to come to the party and 250 $ for anyone staying overnight.
3) Was looking for some contact numbers to reach out to.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2672863]For the first part of your question, look on Airbnb and filter the options for your need. Be prepared to spend about $700 a night. You haven't given any timeframe for this event so availability of property is vague.
For the second part of your question that's another vague one. 6 - 8 non pros? Sure I know plenty of 35 year old moms in CTG that will love to show up to your Batchlor party. Everyone have preferences and asking for something without stating what your looking for, anything can show up, even the hombres con tetas jajaja.
Do you want them light or dark?
Big or slim?
Natural or lots of surgeries?
Skank tattoos or clean skin?
How much are you willing to pay each girl just for showing up and how much are you willing to pay on top of that for any services she performs or are those negotiable per Monger depending of the service he asks for?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2672863]How much are you willing to pay each girl just for showing up and how much are you willing to pay on top of that for any services she performs or are those negotiable per Monger depending of the service he asks for?[/QUOTE]He said he wanted party girls that are not prostitutes, so paying them to show up maybe, but paying for services would definitely make them what he said he did not want.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2673078]He said he wanted party girls that are not prostitutes, so paying them to show up maybe, but paying for services would definitely make them what he said he did not want.[/QUOTE]The whole pro vs non pros is vague. I could never really differentiate the two. I know there are girls that go to the discos every night looking for gringos and I would definitely call them pros. Then there are those that I meet from Stores, restaurants, supermarket, I get their whatsapp number or instagram and I see based on their post history they have regular jobs everything is normal work things or family but the first time I ask "Quiero verte" they always respond back with "cuanto pagas". So I refer to those as semi-pro.
For a Batchlor party maybe OP wants semi pros because at the end of the night they will be getting paid one way or another jajaja.
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[QUOTE=Ravi50;2673037]1) I am looking in Airbnb, that budget is not an issue, the listings don't mention if they are guest friendly, so having to contact the hosts is taking time.
2) Light skinned all under 25, good looking, all natural, average to curvy, not too many tattoos. I am thinking 100 $ to come to the party and 250 $ for anyone staying overnight.
3) Was looking for some contact numbers to reach out to.[/QUOTE]1. Many listings will not say guest friendly in the description as they do not want to promote prostitution. If they don't say it then it is assumed they do not have that restriction, but you still have to do your due diligence so that you know before hand what you can and cannot do. The three most important ones are "Can visitors stay over night? Is there a noise ordnance after a certain time such as 10 pm? If there is security do visitors need to have Cedula?" Yes I 100% agree, this is the most time consuming part of getting a guest friendly Airbnb, but once you have one its golden. It will get even more time consuming when you start running into bunkbeds jajaja.
2. $100 just for showing up and $250 for staying overnight is a bit too much for non pros IMO. $100 is more than the cost of 1 polvo, unless your paying them on the clock which I would advise against because once that time runs out and they have other business they can attend to, they will give you the ultimatum of "mas dinero o me voy". Also I would strongly advise not talking to them in dollars. Pesos only. Then there is the fun part where the chica may want you to pay the "show up" cost up front when they arrive VS you may want to pay when you want them to leave or after services.
3. If your looking for numbers directly for the girls I would advise going another route and get their Instagram instead as these chicas always loosing their phones. On Instagram you can see all their pictures and see their friends pictures as well so the offer can be extended if the friends fit the criteria. Its better to have a group of girls that are friends show up rather than a group of girls who don't know each other or worse have a bad history with each other. (I've been in hostile situations where my friends and I would get different girls to come over then all of a sudden when the second or third girl gets there attitudes or body language change because they were once friends then betrayal happened.).
I early await to hear your report after this Bachelor Party jajaja.
And as always, remember to have fun and enjoy your trip.
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2672878]Sorry I missed you. If you around I'm still here.[/QUOTE]All good man left yesterday. Had a good time. I will sign up as a member here so I can PM people. I go to Cartagena 2-3 times a year so it's always good to meet others.
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Cartagena report 7/3-13/7
Just finished up my trip in Cartagena and got to say it has beaten my expectations for a mongering destination. I genuinely would have stayed longer if I could have.
Thought I would write up this report as everything is shut today for the elections coming up so using it as a rest day.
I done most my punting during the evening and rotated between a few clubs some hip hop bar I think it was called tattoo, space and dulce vita. The hip hop bar was pretty great it was a mix of working and non working girls, more mixed / black girls in here with perfect bodies, probably my favourite atmosphere of all 3 places as was more of a club with some hookers.
Space also decent vibe, all working girls and dancing q fair bit so was a great way to feel their bodies before taking them home.
Dulce vita probably had the most girls but layout was a. It awkward with tables pretty much everywhere.
All 3 places girls were charging the same saying between 400-500 cop for all night but settling on 200-250 k for a few hours.
I also used tinder similar girls who were in the bar scene but got banned on their, no idea how as I never mentioned anything at all on tinder just got their numbers.
All in all would recommend Cartagena but seems a bit expensive due to all the tourists, hopefully Medellin will be just as fun.
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I've been banded too. I've learned LOL.
[QUOTE=HornyDude353;2673680]Just finished up my trip in Cartagena and got to say it has beaten my expectations for a mongering destination. I genuinely would have stayed longer if I could have.
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I also used tinder similar girls who were in the bar scene but got banned on their, no idea how as I never mentioned anything at all on tinder just got their numbers..[/QUOTE]Did you take in account my advice from last year?
I know how I got banded and it was a good learning lesson for me to prevent my new account from suffering the same fate. Jajaja.
[QUOTE] ............if by chance you get a "no" then immediately unmatch. If you get a "Si" you next step is to take the conversation outside of tinder and continue it on whatsapp or instagram where you can discuss prices and services. Once you start the conversation outside of Tinder, go back and unmatch them because they can be vindictive and report you, once you get too many reports, they will ban you. I've been there, had to make a whole new Facebook with fake name and a new phone number just to use Tinder again.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/search.php?searchid=10501088[/URL]
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[QUOTE=FrankBills007;2673304]All good man left yesterday. Had a good time. I will sign up as a member here so I can PM people. I go to Cartagena 2-3 times a year so it's always good to meet others.[/QUOTE]I'm still here a couple more days. We had some good groups from Boston and New York and Georgia boys were here too. Lots of chicas all over the place. Tourism returning to normal. Our probably be back in the fall.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2673702]Did you take in account my advice from last year?
I know how I got banded and it was a good learning lesson for me [/QUOTE]I got banned when I reported a trans by saying this is a male in the female section. I wanted to see what would happen and I guess I found out the hard way. Wouldn't having a trans section make it easier to find them for those that wanted and avoid them for those that don't?
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Emily and Luz on Playa Hollywood I have been massaging me daily. I highly recommend them for a massage. I pay them 50 you can get for a little less but it's worth it.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2673888]I got banned when I reported a trans by saying this is a male in the female section. I wanted to see what would happen and I guess I found out the hard way. Wouldn't having a trans section make it easier to find them for those that wanted and avoid them for those that don't?[/QUOTE]Straight men cannot say anything, they can only ignore or they will get the punishment which is complete BS because we want to shop for mangoes, apples and oranges and there's a banana, eggplant and cucumber in the mix that wasn't part of the options we selected.
There's allot on them on Tinder in CTG. The funny thing is that Tinder only gives 3 options on what the user wants to see, Men, Women, or Everyone. The Trans put themselves as Women and they show up for Straight men looking for Women which is not what straight men want but we can't say anything because Tinder views it as discrimination and then the straight man gets banded while the trans continues to catfish.
This one almost caught me on my last trip because I wasn't reading. I went straight to their Instagram and was just going off their pictures, then I read the bio and realized my mistake. Now I read jajaj.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2673923]There's allot on them on Tinder in CTG. The funny thing is that Tinder only gives 3 options on what the user wants to see, Men, Women, or Everyone. The Trans put themselves as Women and they show up for Straight men looking for Women which is not what straight men want but we can't say anything because Tinder views it as discrimination and then the straight man gets banded while the trans continues to catfish.
This one almost caught me on my last trip because I wasn't reading. I went straight to their Instagram and was just going off their pictures, then I read the bio and realized my mistake. Now I read jajaj.[/QUOTE]He / She looks a lot better than many of the women I have seen in Cartagena. Did you secretly keep her phone number? LOL.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2673702]Did you take in account my advice from last year?
I know how I got banded and it was a good learning lesson for me to prevent my new account from suffering the same fate. Jajaja.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/search.php?searchid=10501088[/URL][/QUOTE]Ha thanks I didn't even ask how much a chick would be wanting to charge, genuinely my chats were Hello, how are you, then I got a number which I most likely forgot to text, so you could have been some vindictive chick but never gave any indication I was looking to pay some chick to screw.
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[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2673997]He / She looks a lot better than many of the women I have seen in Cartagena. Did you secretly keep her phone number? LOL.[/QUOTE]JAJAJA. They look similar to allot of the girls I see in CTG of the age range I go for which is why the pictures got me, and they're quite a few of them I've seen out on dates with gringos in Getsemani.
Their Instagram name is still in my recently searched if you want it, can send via PM LOL.
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Seeking
Hola comps. Have any of you had success with Seeking in Cartagena? Was thinking about a trip late summer and wanted to take a pretty young girl to a Baru resort for a few days. My normal girls are either gone or not suited for such a nice vacation.
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2675687]Hola comps. Have any of you had success with Seeking in Cartagena? Was thinking about a trip late summer and wanted to take a pretty young girl to a Baru resort for a few days. My normal girls are either gone or not suited for such a nice vacation.
Thanks![/QUOTE]I did! Had a chica for 2 full days. Unlimited BBFS. She was hot but not as hot as her SA pics (as usual) but still would rate a 9. She is 24. Its a lot of messaging with various chicas to get one to actually show up.
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I have to fall down laughing using seeking arrangement to find a girl in Cartagena. If you're too cheap to deal with Tony, then you don't even belong in town-- and you don't even need Tony. There's so many walking around by dolce Vita. It's like a shooting gallery. . I know a lot of you a total losers but my apologies to the true mongers. Fucked a hot one then fucked your sister both bareback. Didn't even ask for it. Did the top it off a 21-year-old girlfriend experience from Medellin. She's taking my cock out of my pants and sucking it after coming in the door.
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2676258]I have to fall down laughing using seeking arrangement to find a girl in Cartagena. If you're too cheap to deal with Tony, then you don't even belong in town-- and you don't even need Tony. There's so many walking around by dolce Vita. It's like a shooting gallery. . I know a lot of you a total losers but my apologies to the true mongers. Fucked a hot one then fucked your sister both bareback. Didn't even ask for it. Did the top it off a 21-year-old girlfriend experience from Medellin. She's taking my cock out of my pants and sucking it after coming in the door.[/QUOTE]I don't see any problem with using seeking to find a woman for company for a few days. Some are looking for companionship during their trip; it doesn't make them a loser.
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2676258]I have to fall down laughing using seeking arrangement to find a girl in Cartagena. If you're too cheap to deal with Tony, then you don't even belong in town-- and you don't even need Tony. There's so many walking around by dolce Vita. It's like a shooting gallery. . I know a lot of you a total losers but my apologies to the true mongers. Fucked a hot one then fucked your sister both bareback. Didn't even ask for it. Did the top it off a 21-year-old girlfriend experience from Medellin. She's taking my cock out of my pants and sucking it after coming in the door.[/QUOTE]I also pulled 2 chicas from Dolce for ST who were cute. The SA girls are more semi pro and better looking. You get full on GFE if you aren't and asshole and don't look like a troll. It was like a honeymoon. And they are not cheap. The cheap Charlies can't afford the high end Seeking girls and end up with the fuglies.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2672958]You got your directions must have been after a ton of drinking jajaja. The Hotel you speak of is directly across the street when you step out of Isis. Its Hotel El Viajero.
Also its easy to find guest friendly Airbnb's in Centro, a few are actually 1 - 2 blocks away from Space / Dolce and Delirium. It all comes down to what you are willing to pay per night, how early you reserve it, and its availability. Many mongers wait till last minute and that almost never works. I usually book months in advance so I get the place I want.
Here's a freebie, its on average $100 a night, guest friendly and located above the Exito Express directly around the corner from Isis. Literary 1 minute walk. Operating the gate is a little tricky though but once you get use to it its easy.
[URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/30538678?adults=2&children=0&infants=0&check_in=2022-03-24&check_out=2022-04-04&source_impression_id=p3_1646975734_XE%2Ba%2Blvu0ar1gxn5[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks Nypher, yes for some reason I thought the hotel entrance was on the other side of the street. I just remember going up some stairs. Thanks for the Airbnb info, I forgot to mention I need one with several rooms which was making it harder.
On a side note, before I went to Cartagena in 2014 and Medellin in 2015, I remember barely seeing any content on Youtube. Now when you type in those cities there is tons and tons of content, including many new posts everyday. And 90% of that is young folks all of a certain demo openly and shamelessly talking and bragging about mongering, and showing all the chicas in the streets and at the clubs. And in the comments you see everyone saying they plan to apply for a passport and head to Colombia ASAP based on what they are seeing. Same thing on IG. Its insane how these folks who probably didn't know what a passport was until recently and would normally be scared to go to south America (and once upon a time would look down on paying chicas) are now flocking to these places. Social media + cheap travel + shameless people with herd tendencies is bad combo. Some people don't understand discretion at all and this problem seems to be spreading to other places too. I know it has been discussed here already but that's my rant.
But it is giving me second thoughts about going, and definitely makes me think twice about telling anyone where I'm going. The whole point of a vacation to Colombia is to get away from all the nonsense you deal with back in the states. Am I going to be seeing lots of these guys in groups around the city, or just at night at the three clubs? How many are we talking about on an average weekend? 100's of them?
On a positive note, before the clock tower crackdown, it looked like it was insane out there based on the videos. In fall 2014 there was nowhere near the number of chicas in the clock tower area and streets compared to what I see on youtube recently.
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2676258]I have to fall down laughing using seeking arrangement to find a girl in Cartagena. If you're too cheap to deal with Tony, then you don't even belong in town-- and you don't even need Tony. There's so many walking around by dolce Vita. It's like a shooting gallery. . I know a lot of you a total losers but my apologies to the true mongers. Fucked a hot one then fucked your sister both bareback. Didn't even ask for it. Did the top it off a 21-year-old girlfriend experience from Medellin. She's taking my cock out of my pants and sucking it after coming in the door.[/QUOTE]Yeah. I'm sure you did fuck some dirt poor Venezuelan or some barrio chica from Tierra bomba. That's easy pickings: I wouldn't take any of those slatterns you like to a $400 a night resort.
Do you guys ever get tired of being assholes? I have been living in Cartagena part time for almost 4 years now. I know the regular prepago scene, and those chicas are good for a smash (most of the time not really). I was looking for an actual stunner who has seen places outside of Barranquilla.
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[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2676353]Yeah. I'm sure you did fuck some dirt poor Venezuelan or some barrio chica from Tierra bomba. That's easy pickings: I wouldn't take any of those slatterns you like to a $400 a night resort.
Do you guys ever get tired of being assholes? I have been living in Cartagena part time for almost 4 years now. I know the regular prepago scene, and those chicas are good for a smash (most of the time not really). I was looking for an actual stunner who has seen places outside of Barranquilla.[/QUOTE]Let me understand this. You have been living in Cartagena part time for almost 4 years but your on a monger forum asking about Seeking Arrangements for Cartagena?
In those 4 years part time living there, have you not met a social group of local friends where you can get a non pro? Have you not get local contacts who can give you information locally?
I'm not trying to come at you or anything, I'm just trying to understand what's going through your head because if I'm living somewhere part-time for that many years I would already have local connections to get what I want as it wouldn't make sense for me to ask tourists for things where I live part time.
Whenever I stay somewhere for an extended period of time I always befriend a local bartender, barber, and dry cleaners / laundry owner as those will be my points of contact to other social circles and information.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyWishBone;2676274]I don't see any problem with using seeking to find a woman for company for a few days. Some are looking for companionship during their trip; it doesn't make them a loser.[/QUOTE]I believe its more of what people are accustom today. Its all robotic behind screens. Everyone wants the ability to "Amazon shop" for anything and have it arrive at their doorstep in 24 hours, even if its a companionship jajaja.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2676362]Let me understand this. You have been living in Cartagena part time for almost 4 years but your on a monger forum asking about Seeking Arrangements for Cartagena?
In those 4 years part time living there, have you not met a social group of local friends where you can get a non pro? Have you not get local contacts who can give you information locally?
I'm not trying to come at you or anything, I'm just trying to understand what's going through your head because if I'm living somewhere part-time for that many years I would already have local connections to get what I want as it wouldn't make sense for me to ask tourists for things where I live part time.
Whenever I stay somewhere for an extended period of time I always befriend a local bartender, barber, and dry cleaners / laundry owner as those will be my points of contact to other social circles and information.[/QUOTE]Reading is really fundamental. I literally said my normal girls are not in Cartagena or are not suited for that.
- My caleña that I usually see is at home in Cali and can't make it.
- The student studying dentistry at Universidad de Cartagena can't make it.
- The girl I met who is a waitress at this Asian place in Pie de la Popa isn't suited for this.
Literally am basically a local in Cartagena at this point.
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[QUOTE=Ozu2019;2676345]Thanks Nypher, yes for some reason I thought the hotel entrance was on the other side of the street. I just remember going up some stairs. Thanks for the Airbnb info, I forgot to mention I need one with several rooms which was making it harder.
On a side note, before I went to Cartagena in 2014 and Medellin in 2015, I remember barely seeing any content on Youtube. Now when you type in those cities there is tons and tons of content, including many new posts everyday. And 90% of that is young folks all of a certain demo openly and shamelessly talking and bragging about mongering, and showing all the chicas in the streets and at the clubs. And in the comments you see everyone saying they plan to apply for a passport and head to Colombia ASAP based on what they are seeing. Same thing on IG. Its insane how these folks who probably didn't know what a passport was until recently and would normally be scared to go to south America (and once upon a time would look down on paying chicas) are now flocking to these places. Social media + cheap travel + shameless people with herd tendencies is bad combo. Some people don't understand discretion at all and this problem seems to be spreading to other places too. I know it has been discussed here already but that's my rant.
But it is giving me second thoughts about going, and definitely makes me think twice about telling anyone where I'm going. The whole point of a vacation to Colombia is to get away from all the nonsense you deal with back in the states..[/QUOTE]You're going to see the loud mouths who act like Chris Tucker in Rush Hour mostly at Delirium, its like the Classico of Sosua.
Yes, the idiots many of us wanted to get away from Stateside now have passports and are going to these places doing the same idiot things. I was hoping all this Stimulus money would dry up or PPP fraud would take some of them off the radar but social media have made it worst where these old guys who were born in the 50's are doing youtube channels calling it a "travel channel" but all they show are places known for sex and women and nothing more, and its not even like they are doing anything original. The all do the same stupid shit, go to Hollywood Beach, go to Delirium and the clock tower recording all the girls then upload video. I've had chicas text me telling me they know I'm in Cartagena because they saw me in a video on youtube and they feel betrayed because they wanted to see me I never told them I was coming. That's was one of the reasons I stopped going to Sosua and one of the reasons I done like to walk by Delirium at night. Sosua is a total shit show now as many of the good girls figured out Only Fans and don't even go out anymore since they have plenty of dumb guys giving them money for video clips or pictures smh.
Whatever your doing, just be aware. Watch their channels to see what countries they are going to and plan around them so you won't be where they will be. Last year I didn't do my due diligence and ended up in the middle of a Sosua meet up in Cartagena. Loud mouths, making it rain, bidding wars for chicas, money throwers. Total shit show.
The best advice I can give is don't make my mistakes, plan ahead, make sure you're all set with guest friendly accommodations and no last-minute security rules BS.
I'm in Cartagena right now but I'm just laying low and hanging out with chicas I already know. I might head out tomorrow afternoon and do a little shopping at the beach then bring them back to the apartment and chill in the pool.
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[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2676373]Reading is really fundamental. I literally said my normal girls are not in Cartagena or are not suited for that.
- My calea that I usually see is at home in Cali and can't make it.
- The student studying dentistry at Universidad de Cartagena can't make it.
- The girl I met who is a waitress at this Asian place in Pie de la Popa isn't suited for this.
Literally am basically a local in Cartagena at this point.[/QUOTE]I read your post and its basically you want to take a pretty young girl to Baru for a few days but the ones you have are not the fit for the role or gone (sidenote: few of my girls have been getting flown out to Croatia), I understood that completely. But here's is where it didn't make sense to me, its March, your planning for Late Summer, that's months away. Whenever someone mentions Seeking Arrangements it automatically gives the hint that they are not in the country they are trying to plan for and want things to be prearranged for when they arrive so they do not have to waste time vetting companionship. If this person is already at the destination, Seeking arrangements is not even going through their mind as the chicas outnumber the mongers 4 to 1.
I don't know, maybe I'm just overthinking, it jajaja.
Have you tried contacting OnFireBoy and seeing if they have something you like you can vet before the travel date?
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/member.php?655424-OnFireBoy[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2676364]I believe its more of what people are accustom today. Its all robotic behind screens. Everyone wants the ability to "Amazon shop" for anything and have it arrive at their doorstep in 24 hours, even if its a companionship jajaja.[/QUOTE]It doesn't make someone a loser for using seeking.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyWishBone;2676408]It doesn't make someone a loser for using seeking.[/QUOTE]Really? I disagree LOL!
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2672958]You got your directions must have been after a ton of drinking jajaja. The Hotel you speak of is directly across the street when you step out of Isis. Its Hotel El Viajero.
Also its easy to find guest friendly Airbnb's in Centro, a few are actually 1 - 2 blocks away from Space / Dolce and Delirium. It all comes down to what you are willing to pay per night, how early you reserve it, and its availability. Many mongers wait till last minute and that almost never works. I usually book months in advance so I get the place I want.
Here's a freebie, its on average $100 a night, guest friendly and located above the Exito Express directly around the corner from Isis. Literary 1 minute walk. Operating the gate is a little tricky though but once you get use to it its easy.
[URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/30538678?adults=2&children=0&infants=0&check_in=2022-03-24&check_out=2022-04-04&source_impression_id=p3_1646975734_XE%2Ba%2Blvu0ar1gxn5[/URL][/QUOTE]Hey, I thank you for the freebie. Been gone from any travel to Cartagena, Columbia for the last 3 months but found out I will be headed back to work all over Columbia again. I had been spending 7-10 days at one of Juans unit but really like what you have here. I spend so much time at the beach and very little at clock tower but like this area. Again Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Ozu2019;2676345]But it is giving me second thoughts about going, and definitely makes me think twice about telling anyone where I'm going. The whole point of a vacation to Colombia is to get away from all the nonsense you deal with back in the states.[/QUOTE]My suggestion is that you better hurry up and go before it is all fucked up. You already missed out on the clock tower. With Costa Rica, Rio, and Sosua as examples, it only gets worse from here. Don't cheat yourself by missing out.
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Not sure about that
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2676562]...You already missed out on the clock tower...[/QUOTE]I was there early this month, and I was pretty pleased with the availability of FLs there, especially the Venies.
I was also there in December, and it was better back then. Maybe you meant it's starting to go downhill.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyWishBone;2676408]It doesn't make someone a loser for using seeking.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheMan31;2676514]Really? I disagree LOL![/QUOTE]I do not use SA (seek) because I am used to my own routines. The advantages for using SA that have been reported over and over are that when using SA you are less likely to get some hardcore clocklwatcher and are way more likely to get GFE, if that's what you are looking for. Also less likely than getting a bate ans switch or getting robbed like the chances are in Tinder. I do not know why anyone would be a "loser" for wanting to fuck beautiful women and get full GFE. I have surfed the site and checked out the talent. Threre were a few gorgeous woman in SA from Cartagena IMHO when I looked. For me it would be a last resort. For me the hunt is part of the fun and I like to keep my ear to the ground to see what's happening with the chica scene in the city so that requires foot work. Seek is not as flush with gorgeous woman in Cartagena as say Medellin. Its a perfectly legit way to find some beauftiful women that one might have to spend a lot of time finding on the ground. Sadly though for those who do not have experience in this city its starting to get to where SA may be the smartest thing to do in Cartagena if you do not want to leave anything to doubt. As the dynamics change in Cartagena I might start giving it more consideration.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2676362]I'm not trying to come at you or anything, I'm just trying to understand what's going through your head because if I'm living somewhere part-time for that many years I would already have local connections to get what I want as it wouldn't make sense for me to ask tourists for things where I live part time.
Whenever I stay somewhere for an extended period of time I always befriend a local bartender, barber, and dry cleaners / laundry owner as those will be my points of contact to other social circles and information.[/QUOTE]Nypher,
When I lived in Dallas, I had a ton of contacts and friends in the monger world. I had beautiful women texting me every day wanting to suck my dick for cash, but they are not the kind that you could trust or you wanted to hang around at your place. They were either escorts or strippers. From seeking, I had sugar babies that worked in an office, were a personal trainer, and worked as a teacher. They were "normal" women who wanted to fuck for $ but it was important for them to not be seen as hos. And these women were cool; a lot of them you would want to hang around with after the deed was done.
When I used seeking in Colombia, I met women as high up on the food chain as you get: doctors, lawyers, engineers, government workers. Maybe you know a way to approach those people in real life but I did not. I have no doubt I could get a list of WGs as long as I did in Dallas in Cartagena, but I know from Dallas that the strippers and girls with real jobs rarely cross paths.
My current GF is in the upper crust. She went to the best schools in Cartagena, and we see her friends out and about all over town. CTG is not a really big city, and it is like Miami in the sense that those who can cook up great times often have more $ than those who work hard if you know what I mean. The result is the smarter and more higher class women are very tight, very separated from the good time girls, and they gossip like crazy. My gal has issues with her mother, and they do not talk. Yet when we were in town for just two fucking days, there were like 5 people who told her mother, "Did you know your daughter was in town?
She has friends not just all over Colombia but all over the world including the USA. When I needed dental work done in CTG, we saw a classmate of hers who is a dentist. Even though she had no makeup and loose scrubs on, I could tell she had a smoking hot body. And she was a good dentist as well. This is the kind of woman PW was looking for.
The thing is not only do the paths of WGs and the dentist not cross, I think there could be a mini scandal if they did. In a town like CTG, can your reputation as a dentist take a hit if you are seen partying with johns and WGs? I think so, and that is why seeking / SA is the only place I know of where a guy can easily meet women like that dentist if she happened to be on line.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2676787]I do not use SA (seek) because I am used to my own routines. The advantages for using SA that have been reported over and over are that when using SA you are less likely to get some hardcore clocklwatcher and are way more likely to get GFE, if that's what you are looking for. Also less likely than getting a bate ans switch or getting robbed like the chances are in Tinder. I do not know why anyone would be a "loser" for wanting to fuck beautiful women and get full GFE. I have surfed the site and checked out the talent. Threre were a few gorgeous woman in SA from Cartagena IMHO when I looked. For me it would be a last resort. For me the hunt is part of the fun and I like to keep my ear to the ground to see what's happening with the chica scene in the city so that requires foot work. Seek is not as flush with gorgeous woman in Cartagena as say Medellin. Its a perfectly legit way to find some beauftiful women that one might have to spend a lot of time finding on the ground. Sadly though for those who do not have experience in this city its starting to get to where SA may be the smartest thing to do in Cartagena if you do not want to leave anything to doubt. As the dynamics change in Cartagena I might start giving it more consideration.[/QUOTE]Good comment. I thought about SA but had great luck without it. Still was able to get some more GFE. But like you, I enjoy the hunt a bit.
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Massages that don't totally suck?
I've seen some posts about WGs that also do a massage here but posts seem sparse. Y'all must be keeping the good ones close to the chest! Not too trusting of Mileroticos but if anyone has any suggestions let me know, preferably outcall in my condo since I got to keep close to my prison chains aka work laptop while I'm here. I'm free at night if anyone wants to meet up and shoot the shit. I'll have to bite the bullet and subscribe to the forum finally.
On a side note, walked around the tower and the love triangle yesterday and they must have really scared off the girls recently as there weren't many in the street but likely later in the night at the club. Given it was Sunday maybe they're adhering to the holy traditions of Latin America. Get as drunk as you can on Saturday night so you can repent on Sunday. Tinder has been good to me specifically for non pros, but as someone mentioned before, the upper echelon of non pros will likely need you to hit up SA and spend that extra lunch money you've been clutching on to. One tip is that some of them are also on tinder if you narrow your location to some smaller, more specific areas on the map.
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[QUOTE=SunFloater;2677081]I've seen some posts about WGs that also do a massage here but posts seem sparse. Y'all must be keeping the good ones close to the chest! Not too trusting of Mileroticos but if anyone has any suggestions let me know, preferably outcall in my condo since I got to keep close to my prison chains aka work laptop while I'm here. I'm free at night if anyone wants to meet up and shoot the shit. I'll have to bite the bullet and subscribe to the forum finally.
On a side note, walked around the tower and the love triangle yesterday and they must have really scared off the girls recently as there weren't many in the street but likely later in the night at the club. Given it was Sunday maybe they're adhering to the holy traditions of Latin America. Get as drunk as you can on Saturday night so you can repent on Sunday. Tinder has been good to me specifically for non pros, but as someone mentioned before, the upper echelon of non pros will likely need you to hit up SA and spend that extra lunch money you've been clutching on to. One tip is that some of them are also on tinder if you narrow your location to some smaller, more specific areas on the map.[/QUOTE]If you can spare an hour, Plenitud in Centro is great. A bit pricey, but I always walk out feeling like a million bucks. You can probably get extras in the room, but it's not a brothel. A few of the chicas gave me their WhatsApp, so you know what that means. You can probably get them to come to your place after your first time, so they don't have to split their earnings with the Spa.
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Just a quick report. I finally made it to centro. The clock tower is closed off. A stage is set up with projector screen.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2676787]I do not use SA (seek) because I am used to my own routines. The advantages for using SA that have been reported over and over are that when using SA you are less likely to get some hardcore clocklwatcher and are way more likely to get GFE, if that's what you are looking for. Also less likely than getting a bate ans switch or getting robbed like the chances are in Tinder.[/QUOTE]I disagree. I've mongered in several countries and have used all kinds of different platforms from dating apps to dating sites, from brothels to high end escort. From rich countries to poor ones.
Nothing is fool proof, you don't know what type of service you're going to get until you get it.
And as far as bait and switch, assume every picture is fake until proven otherwise.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2677287]Just a quick report. I finally made it to centro. The clock tower is closed off. A stage is set up with projector screen.[/QUOTE]What about the chicas?
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[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2677243]If you can spare an hour, Plenitud in Centro is great. A bit pricey, but I always walk out feeling like a million bucks. You can probably get extras in the room, but it's not a brothel. A few of the chicas gave me their WhatsApp, so you know what that means. You can probably get them to come to your place after your first time, so they don't have to split their earnings with the Spa.[/QUOTE]Going to see what I get tomorrow, thanks for the tip.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2677287]Just a quick report. I finally made it to centro. The clock tower is closed off. A stage is set up with projector screen.[/QUOTE]Headed there now so will report since its late, I did notice the day before that there were a shit ton of people watching some documentary on that screen but there were a few WGs scattered around. It's Colombia so sometimes the heels and nails aren't enough to tell if they're obvious pros.
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Clock tower
[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2677243]If you can spare an hour, Plenitud in Centro is great. A bit pricey, but I always walk out feeling like a million bucks. You can probably get extras in the room, but it's not a brothel. A few of the chicas gave me their WhatsApp, so you know what that means. You can probably get them to come to your place after your first time, so they don't have to split their earnings with the Spa.[/QUOTE]Going to see what I get tomorrow, thanks for the tip.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2677287]Just a quick report. I finally made it to centro. The clock tower is closed off. A stage is set up with projector screen.[/QUOTE]Headed there now so will report since its late, I did notice the day before that there were a shit ton of people watching some documentary on that screen but there were a few WGs scattered around. It's Colombia so sometimes the heels and nails aren't enough to tell if they're obvious pros.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2677287] The clock tower is closed off. A stage is set up with projector screen.[/QUOTE]They are waiting for girls to spot them light on?
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[QUOTE=BlackPage;2677860]They are waiting for girls to spot them light on?[/QUOTE]It's some Ficci thing. I was trying to upload a photo of it but seems a 2 MB photo is too big for this site.
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Report from the last 3 days
Monday.
After a week of laying low and just hanging out in Getsemani and Manga, I finally made it to Centro to begin looking for something new. I'm seeing allot of women I didn't come here for, you know the type, overweight, loud mouth, ridiculous long eyelash extensions, wigs and weaves so obvious I would have thought I was in Atlanta. Sent a chill down my spine as I refuse to believe CTG is now Sosua. I start reaching out to my chicas who I didn't tell I was going to be here.
1st. Chica, she's in Barranquilla for Carnival.
2nd Chica, some monger took her to San Andres for a few days so she won't be back till Wednesday.
3rd Chica, she's in Bogota.
4th Chica, a new one, I was talking to her on tinder a week before a got here, then while I was here she went dead silent. No replies on WhatsApp but I can see the messages are being received. Checked her Instagram, this chica is posting stories of her playing in snow. WTF? Checked her Tinder profile, she's went from 1 mile away when I was talking to her to 5,723 miles away. I already knew where she's at because this isn't the first time I've seen this distance with a chica. I'm willing to bet some gringo flew her out to Croatia as I've been seeing this allot.
5th Chica, she's having problems with a gringo who she spent a few days with but now he can't pay her because he ran out of pesos. I tell her to make him Weston Union the money using his credit card because I know he has one, or Pay Pay her the money. She doesn't have Paypal, so she wanted him to send me the money and ill give her the cash since she trusts me more than him (This is one of the chicas who never counts the money I give her and just tosses it in her bag.). I was about to agree due to I have a alternate PayPal account under an alias for things like this but then common sense kicked in and I decided not to get involved, and left it at that.
6th Chica is in Cancun.
7th Chica in Medellin and won't be back till Saturday.
8th Chica not felling well.
Then I had a wild idea, ill contact the chicas I was saving for last. All 4 of them are in CTG, and that's when I realized only the ones that asked me to bring them something are here, all the others aren't.
Later that night the 5th chica figured out her money problem and was ready to see me. She gets over to me and we get to talking about how they hell she ended up being stiffed by a gringo but to my surprise she tells me she's known the guy for years and this is the first time hes done this and she really needs the money. Fuck it, break out the beers and left relax since we don't normally talk about money when we see each other. Were chilling music blasting I can see she's no longer thinking about the gringo and the money so time to leave the pool and head to the bedroom. We get to the bedroom and she stops me and asks "quanto pagas? Now I have not heard this girl said this shit to me since the initial first time we met. SMH. I told her the usual amount, she says 350 k, I've never given her 350 k. Back and forth for about 20 minutes and we settle for 300 K. Time for business, but she wants to be paid first. SMH! Her behavior is now back to when we initially first met and now I'm frustrated because we have built a trusting relationship over a long time and she's usually with me at least twice every time I arrive in CTG. I give her the 300 k up front and she proceeds to count it in front of me SMH, yep! She's in hardcore puta mode. I ask her why she counted it and she says she can't trust anyone now because of what just happened to her with the other gringo. (I was born in a third world country so I understand how easy it is to be taken advantage of by someone who comes from a country where their currency is way more valuable than your own, so my thought process before I immigrated to America was, since they have more they wouldn't try to cheat someone who have less.) I can't fault her, she just have to learn through life experiences exactly how I did. We proceeded to finish up in the bedroom, she squirts as usual but was complaining all throughout the activity her tits were hurting so I couldn't touch them too much (I already know where this was going). I asked her to spend then night due to I knew its only a matter of time before she's out for a few days. She's back at the negotiating table and wants 350 K more to stay the night SMH. She's back in hardcore puta mode. We agree on 600 K total which is the highest 2 LN GFE limit I will go before walking away. She agrees.
Since she doesn't walk the street or go to clubs for gringos and only operate on the apps I start to try teach her a way how to not get screwed from what I've learned from the chicas who walk the street and works the clubs so when a gringo says he's got no cash she can always instantly hit the credit card. I set her up with the Paypal / Nequi combo something that have been a great convivence for me as I'm not worried about the fee I just know the more pesos I can keep for cash only places the better.
Tuesday.
We wake up I get my second leche, she leaves to go home and as soon as she got home mother nature hit her just as I had the feeling it was that time of the month.
Afternoon comes around and Chica #8 is feeling better, come over, zero talks about money, gets a good session in. We go out, eat, drink, walk around Getsemani a little as I was looking for specific artwork and got to see a few new things, back to the casa, another session. Its still early so we go out to Centro, more drinks and food, good time.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2678010]It's some Ficci thing. I was trying to upload a photo of it but seems a 2 MB photo is too big for this site.[/QUOTE]I usually bring a photo like that up on my phone and take a screen shot or bring it up on my cumputer and use the snipping device on it and those things lower the storage size enough to load it here.
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The scgeenshot was a larger jajaja
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2678185]I usually bring a photo like that up on my phone and take a screen shot or bring it up on my cumputer and use the snipping device on it and those things lower the storage size enough to load it here.[/QUOTE]I tried that before I gave up, I was a bit puzzled why a screenshot off a 2.5 MB photo turned into a 4 MB photo. I ended loading it on the computer then using the resize to compress the hell out of it. Photo of the stage below, but I walked by last night (Wednesday) and its gone, no more stage.
The clocktower is back to normal but not in a open market packed with chicas like before. There are a handful of police standing around, there are gringos still negotiating with chicas at the statue but now many as it was before they cleared it of for the holiday.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2678010]It's some Ficci thing. I was trying to upload a photo of it but seems a 2 MB photo is too big for this site.[/QUOTE]Resize and compress.
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Tuesday Night.
So my friend leaves and I decide to get another girl I know that's here for the night. She already knows how I operate so I give her the time I want to meet with the location and as soon as she get in the cab she send me her live location. She is coming from all the way up north somewhere pass La Boquilla SMH. Doesn't matter I can see she's moving on the map which is what I like (active live visual conformation they are on their way). I run out to get more Coronas to stock the fridge. 20 minutes go by I decide to check the map and she's all the way over by the airport runway going is circles, I asked her what up, she says the drivers lost SMH. Another 20 minutes later and I see her in my area and she says "estoy Aqui" I go downstairs and I don't see her, some girl is standing outside trying to get my attention but I didn't want nothing to do with her as she wasn't my type (too big) so I politely say no look at the map again and she's 5 blocks away, I start walking to her. I meet her and its one big WTF, this girl looks like she just rolled out of bed, rolled through the bushes, then jumped in a cab to come see me. I ask her what the fuck is up because her hair is all messed up! She's wearing an outfit like she's walking the street (very important as my girls know no puta clothes when coming to see me) and her stomach looks bloated like she's pregnant. She says she was out drinking with her friends and then came to see me. I can instantly smell the dark liquor on her breath. I decide to get something locally to eat instead of getting Rappi, we sit down she tries to get the waiter attention and her voice went from the usual quiet and sweet that I've known over the years to loud and borracha mode, I've never seen her like this. My only thought is that all my good ones are unavailable and I'm left with these ones, then I start laughing because now I understand what at PerkinWarbeck was talking about, this is some karma. I made sure to get her to finish up that food so fast and to the apartment. We get to the building and the same chica from before that was out there is still out there trying to get my attention and my chica stops and talks to her. Out of their whole 10 minute conversation that was a little too loud the only thing I understood was "gringo, telephone, aqui, ayuda, no plata". We get in the building and I ask her what's that about she says some gringo told her to come here but he never came down to get her, she doesn't know the apartment number, she has no pone to text him, and no money to get back home. The only thing I could say was no bueno, vamanos, we get in the building she has no idea where to go, we get off the elevator she has no idea where to go, we get in to the apartment and she's amazed, runs straight to the balcony. So I ask her if she doesn't remember being in this exact same apartment in December, nope, no memory. No I show her the pictures she took with her phone, exactly where she is currently sitting and she's looking at the pictures like she's never seen them before and she has no idea she's been here just a few months ago (alright I can see this night is going to be one of those). We start drinking, talking to catch up from the last time we met as what's happening in life, how her English going, how's my Spanish going, before I know it we finished two 6 packs of Coronas. Time for the bedroom, great GFE as usual and I finished on her back and I just flopped to the side like a dog. She's still bent over in doggie, while her head is exactly over mine she's quietly singing "leeeeche. Leeeeeche. Leeeeeche. " then gets up and start dancing while still singing. At this time I can see the leche starting to loose it consistency and its beginning to run down her back and the only thing going through my mind is I do not want to slip in this shit later (happened to me many times, not fun as it happens out of nowhere). I tell her no bilar, bano, ducha. She decides to dance on her way to the bathroom, yep she is done. I go join her, she wants another go at it in the shower, I can't I'm still sore and need recovery time. Time to pass out. Throughout the whole night I kept felling the bed move, she's getting up to use the bathroom, I lost count after the 10th time and just threw the covers over my head.
Wednesday.
Morning comes and she's not in the bed, she's not in the bathroom, not in the kitchen, or living room, the sun is too strong so I can see through the glass doors to the balcony, she's out there, nothing but a towel in the chair sleeping. I pick her up bring her back to the bed while I go clean up. About an hour passes, she gets up showers and gives me the usual "me voy, pero necicito plata para taxi" ok, I look in my wallet nothing but 50 mil and 100 mil bills. I tell her I have no small bills and ill have to get change. She doesn't have time, then I remembered she have the Paypal / Nequi thing so I just sent her sent her $100 and told her grab it from the ATM. She doesn't understand, then she get the alert on her phone the transaction went through and she's shocked at the number because she only asked for taxi money. So I tell her normally you only ask me when you need, but get your hair done, get some regular normal outfits and ill see you next week. She leaves as my new chica I've been trying to see for my last three trips finally comes through. She looks just like her photos but once I got her in the apartment I realize its layers and layers of makeup, then I just had to feel her body, flab stuffed into the clothes. Her skin is extremely loose, ass is loose, tits have no substance to them, everything feels like a plastic bag filled with water SMH. We get to drinking, order lunch, chilling in the jucuzzi and its too hot outside. Time for the bedroom, no chupa, she doesn't do that. Ok I remember our conversations, she only chuppa con condon, sexo con condon, no anal. Now I realize this is about to be a boring fuck, she pushes me on the bed, jumps on top bites my nipple, starts grinding against my cock to where its starting to hurt, then spits in her hand, rubs it in her pussy then shoves my cock in there and you know what, if she don't remember what our conversation was like over the last few months I've been trying to get her to come see me then I'm not going to remind her, all she knows is 300 K for the polvo. Her skin was loose but damn she fit like a glove on the inside. Great fuck, decorated her back very well like an abstract painting. Then my main Dolce chica messages me to meet at 9 pm and tell me make sure all my putas are gone before she get there jajajajaj.
We head out walking through Centro, the clock tower, Getesemi and a few girls recognized me in Centro but when they saw her close behind me they already know we're together and I won't be available for the next few nights. We get back to the apartment and I give her the things she asked me to get her and she loves it. Then I surprise her with 3 dresses I know will look good on her. She tries all of them on, starts taking pictures. Happy. Then comes "me encanta!" lays them on the bed and starts pointing at the dresses saying "Dolce Vita Juves, Dolce Vita Viernes, Dolce Vita Sabado". I tell her no "Dolce Vita ropa. " She starts laughing and says "Si! Si! Muy bena para Dolce Vita, mucho dinero para mi en fin de semena ahora. Fuck it, it is what it is since she doesn't really ask me for money when I'm here so I can't say anything. Some fun drinking, fun in the jucuzzi as always great GFE.
Thursday.
Morning comes around, and she wakes me up she's leaving and I realized left all her clothes all over bedroom, living room balcony (she always does this, always leaving her clothes and shoes with me which other girls comes, sees it and ask how much time do we have before my esposa comes back LOL). I ask her how much she needs for the taxi, she says she needs 800 mil to pay or classes. I have no pesos so I can't pay her, now I just realized I became the person that made my other chica go into hardcore puta mode. Fuck it, I give her $300 and tell her she will have to change it out for pesos she's happy and on her way out the door she says "ill see you 9 pm, make sure the putas are gone by then" and we both start laughing at the irony of it all. As soon as she leaves I start asking the chica that went to San Andres where she's at jajaja.
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San Andres
Took one of my chicas to San Andres from Cartagena. You will have to pay some tourism fee to enter San Andres even regardless if you are a Colombian citizen. Keep the copy of the paperwork. Went on the 3 island tour which wasn't bad. Went to Aquario Island, a sandbar island and Johnny Cay Island. The water clarity is amazing. Beaches are nice. It can get crowded. We were located near the airport on the beach and the boardwalk along the beach is always crowded with people partying until late. The internet service sucked everywhere on the island, even at the airport. It's best to be connected to the local network on your devices. Not many places accepted credit cards. Some places take the credit card machine outside to try and get a signal. The food was so-so. We seen girls hanging out at the bars and clubs in Centro and walking around. Police were shutting down the beach at like 6 pm and people moved to the boardwalk. Lots of shops in the area. Transportation rentals and tours. Let the chica negotiate prices. If you want to get away and relax it can be ok. Next time I visit San Andres I will probably stay on the other side of the island and switch it up.
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Boot time
I would have booted her out right when she said that she wanted to be paid in advance regardless of how long you knew her. And as often happens, the service level went to hell as soon as she had your money. Full stop.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2678034]Monday.
After a week of laying low and just hanging out in Getsemani and Manga, I finally made it to Centro to begin looking for something new. I'm seeing allot of women I didn't come here for, you know the type, overweight, loud mouth, ridiculous long eyelash extensions, wigs and weaves so obvious I would have thought I was in Atlanta. Sent a chill down my spine as I refuse to believe CTG is now Sosua. I start reaching out to my chicas who I didn't tell I was going to be here.
1st. Chica, she's in Barranquilla for Carnival.
2nd Chica, some monger took her to San Andres for a few days so she won't be back till Wednesday.
3rd Chica, she's in Bogota.
4th Chica, a new one, I was talking to her on tinder a week before a got here, then while I was here she went dead silent. No replies on WhatsApp but I can see the messages are being received. Checked her Instagram, this chica is posting stories of her playing in snow. WTF? Checked her Tinder profile, she's went from 1 mile away when I was talking to her to 5,723 miles away. I already knew where she's at because this isn't the first time I've seen this distance with a chica. I'm willing to bet some gringo flew her out to Croatia as I've been seeing this allot.
5th Chica, she's having problems with a gringo who she spent a few days with but now he can't pay her because he ran out of pesos. I tell her to make him Weston Union the money using his credit card because I know he has one, or Pay Pay her the money. She doesn't have Paypal, so she wanted him to send me the money and ill give her the cash since she trusts me more than him (This is one of the chicas who never counts the money I give her and just tosses it in her bag.). I was about to agree due to I have a alternate PayPal account under an alias for things like this but then common sense kicked in and I decided not to get involved, and left it at that.
6th Chica is in Cancun.
7th Chica in Medellin and won't be back till Saturday.
8th Chica not felling well.
Then I had a wild idea, ill contact the chicas I was saving for last. All 4 of them are in CTG, and that's when I realized only the ones that asked me to bring them something are here, all the others aren't.
Later that night the 5th chica figured out her money problem and was ready to see me. She gets over to me and we get to talking about how they hell she ended up being stiffed by a gringo but to my surprise she tells me she's known the guy for years and this is the first time hes done this and she really needs the money. Fuck it, break out the beers and left relax since we don't normally talk about money when we see each other. Were chilling music blasting I can see she's no longer thinking about the gringo and the money so time to leave the pool and head to the bedroom. We get to the bedroom and she stops me and asks "quanto pagas? Now I have not heard this girl said this shit to me since the initial first time we met. SMH. I told her the usual amount, she says 350 k, I've never given her 350 k. Back and forth for about 20 minutes and we settle for 300 K. Time for business, but she wants to be paid first. SMH! Her behavior is now back to when we initially first met and now I'm frustrated because we have built a trusting relationship over a long time and she's usually with me at least twice every time I arrive in CTG. I give her the 300 k up front and she proceeds to count it in front of me SMH, yep! She's in hardcore puta mode. I ask her why she counted it and she says she can't trust anyone now because of what just happened to her with the other gringo. (I was born in a third world country so I understand how easy it is to be taken advantage of by someone who comes from a country where their currency is way more valuable than your own, so my thought process before I immigrated to America was, since they have more they wouldn't try to cheat someone who have less.) I can't fault her, she just have to learn through life experiences exactly how I did. We proceeded to finish up in the bedroom, she squirts as usual but was complaining all throughout the activity her tits were hurting so I couldn't touch them too much (I already know where this was going). I asked her to spend then night due to I knew its only a matter of time before she's out for a few days. She's back at the negotiating table and wants 350 K more to stay the night SMH. She's back in hardcore puta mode. We agree on 600 K total which is the highest 2 LN GFE limit I will go before walking away. She agrees.
Since she doesn't walk the street or go to clubs for gringos and only operate on the apps I start to try teach her a way how to not get screwed from what I've learned from the chicas who walk the street and works the clubs so when a gringo says he's got no cash she can always instantly hit the credit card. I set her up with the Paypal / Nequi combo something that have been a great convivence for me as I'm not worried about the fee I just know the more pesos I can keep for cash only places the better.
Tuesday.
We wake up I get my second leche, she leaves to go home and as soon as she got home mother nature hit her just as I had the feeling it was that time of the month.
Afternoon comes around and Chica #8 is feeling better, come over, zero talks about money, gets a good session in. We go out, eat, drink, walk around Getsemani a little as I was looking for specific artwork and got to see a few new things, back to the casa, another session. Its still early so we go out to Centro, more drinks and food, good time.[/QUOTE]
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Thursday.
Chica #2 went cold. I can see my 2 messages were send and received but not read. Fuck it I'm not sending a third.
Chica #9 she's fairly new and I've only had 1 session with her on my last day on my last trip. She was good so I decide to reach out since I see her status of her posting she's bee partying all week. She responds back almost immediately she's finishing her period and it will be another day or two.
Chica #10 Another new one I started talking to on Tinder a few days before arriving. I see she's also doing allot of celebrating in her status posts. I reach out she responds ack she just started her period. So now that's 3 chicas who manages to sync up their monthly time.
Chica #11 Another new one from Tinder, I matched with her on my last trip but every time we spoke the timing just didn't sync up. We get to talking and she's good to meet. I tell her to get to me at 12 or 1 she says she can't and won't make it till after 2. After a few minutes of back and forth I find out its because she want to have lunch and lives an hour away. I tell her don't worry about lunch, we will have lunch together I just need you to be here by 1. She agrees I go shower and head out. I decide to just walk along the coast line by Centro and it looks like they brought in allot of new boulders to reinforce coastline, the rocks looked so great I decided to stop and take a few pics and got lost in the time, didn't realize how much time passed until she message me for my location. I give it to her and started walking back. I have her live location and see she's on her way, about 30 minutes later she passes me and sends me a "estoy aqui". I go downstairs and I already knew what happened so I start walking to her. We meet and she says the cab got lost and dropped her off at the wrong place I just start laughing because the same thing happened to borracha girl. I see her and she's hardly wearing anything, the tightest shortest booty shorts and the smallest tightest top showing as much skin as she can. We grab some food and start talking. She says she doesn't like to be in centro at night because its dangerous, I tell her I've been walking around Centro all hours of the night / morning every time I come here and nothing bad have ever happened to me, she says its because I'm a man, its dangerous for women and many pick pockets. Now I can't really say anything because and just have to understand it from her point of view because where I live in NJ bad things can always happen to you or never happen to you, its just if its your day or not.
We get back to the apartment and I forgot I had already set the price for her 300 K for all the holes, and I'm still trying to figure out how we got to that price and she's natural and looks like a Dolce girl. She walks in, sees the Jucuzzi and off comes her top, I didn't even notice her tits were that big, in her photos there looked like BS due to the angles but those were some fully sized Cs, firm, no bra needed, areolas and nipples just how I like them, to top it off they were the same colour as her skin so now I can't wait to see them change colour when she get excited. She goes to use the bathroom and sees my Dolce girls heels and asks if those are my wifes or girlfriend and I'm surprised how she walked right pass them when she first came in. I tell her those are my friends shoes and she's coming back for them later. She hits me with a "claro" and off the the bathroom and into the jacuzzi. She started pounding Coronas while we talk, she's on her 8th I'm just on my 4th, I'm not trying to have that bloat with wave rocking in my stomach while in the bedroom so time to Hi the bedroom. This chica sucks like trying to pull icecream through a straw, damn it was good. Got the first hole, then the second, and finished off in the 3rd. Tight all around, I give her the agreed 300 K, she didn't even count it just put it in her pocket, this ones a keeper! We talk for a few more minutes and I find out she was in Dolce but says she doesn't work in there was just with male friends that wanted to go there to hangout and she only works from Tinder. I could believe what she said or call bullshit but with dolce looks, all natural, and all 3 holes for 300 K I would be that gringo to buy sand while at the beach.
She leaves and now its about 5 pm. Back to Centro chill for a bit and meet up with my Dolce girl. We decide to hit a few bars, grab some food and do some people watching. Then she tells me she wants to go to another place, we leave and end up outside the clocktower and she tells my the guy who was sitting next to us was a gringo from the US who messages her to meet but she told him she was on her period. I can't even laugh at the irony as its all too familiar. I ask how much was he going to pay? She says 300, at first I thought "oh, that's a low number for you" then I asked pesos or dollars and she says dollars. I tell her she can go get the 300 if she wants and she says no she will make more tomorrow because there are allot of Indians here. OK back to the apartment, great GFE and we just hang out and talk as she practice her English. I'm starting to understand that everything has multiple words and anyone can be used depending on the conversation. Time for bed I go shower and she comes in to join me, she wants to know why I'm showering in cold water. I tell her its this is the how the water is it doesn't get any hotter. She gives me a look like I'm stupid. She then points to the knob that says "C" and I'm yea, that's cold water I point to the other knob that says "F" and tell her "Feugo". She starts laughing and says nooooooo points the the "C" knob and says calliente, points to the "F" knob and says frio. Then she turn the "C" knob fully on and what do you know there is steam coming out the shower head, the water is scalding hot (we both been in this apartment before a few times, I've never touched the "C" knob because I thought "C" was for cold. SMH) well that my stupid moment for the day.
Friday.
We wake up get another session in grab breakfast and I ask her how much does she need. She just needs Taxi money 20 mil. Ok, gave her the 20, she grabs her things and says she will see me Monday, apparently her friend told her she made $600 off some gringo in dolce that night and she doesn't want to miss out since I'm not really paying. She leaves and I message another chica who asked me to bring something for her to come pick it up. She get here, she wants the jacuzzi as well, I tell her lets go to the islands for the day she said its not good right now maybe another day. When I asked why she showed me a video of some gringo whose leg got sliced up from a boat blood everywhere. Well that's that, lets order in and chill. We get to talking and now I find out she works in Dolce, I asked her what happened to Space as thas where she worked and she says they let everyone in there and she's very tiny, the girls don't like her and want to fight her, she prefers Dolce but the same thing is happening in there as girls get mad at her when a monger takes her. I tell her the gringo picks the girl so the chica cannot get man and she's "claro, ovio, claro ovio" but she says the girls think that they are their permanent client so she mostly just walk around outside and theres no problems. She then tells me a new club will be opening soon that will be bigger and better, well I guess. Great GFE session, I forgot how tight she was unti she hopped on. All 3 holes 300 k.
Time to head back to Centro as I hear fireworks and been hearing them almost every night and could never figure out if they were in Getsemani or Centro. Somehow I ran into my Dolce chica and she wants to come with me for the night. I ask her what about the gringos in Dolce and she says tomorrow night. We get to talking about what my other friend said and she agrees that the girls do want to fight for the clients which is why she no longer goes to Space because the girls in there are much bigger than her. She says since she started working I've been the only one who messages her to come back after she leaves or tells her when I'm coming, all their other clients even though they will pay her for a few days they never takes her again for the same price and only want her for way less money and she sees them in the club months later and she doesn't understand. I and ask her why do she think she's here with me but she doesn't get it and says she prefers new clients anyway as she get more money out of them. Well as long as new waves of gringos keep rolling in she will keep making money as long as her youth lasts I guess. I don't want to explain short term success VS sustainability to her once her youth runs out. I change to talking about different clubs where we can go where I won't be bothered by working girls or rubbing up on guys who can only shop in the big and tall section. She says there's one above Delirium. Ok we go check it out, looks normal, too normal. No working girls, no fake ass ballers, no 4 x shirt wearing gringos, and I realize both chicas and men are looking at her even though she's dressed regular. A bit awkward but ok, we stay for a bit then head back to the apartment, as soon as we get in she says "requadas, Frio, caliente" I can't help but just laugh. Great GFE as normal.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2676379]You're going to see the loud mouths who act like Chris Tucker in Rush Hour mostly at Delirium, its like the Classico of Sosua.
Yes, the idiots many of us wanted to get away from Stateside now have passports and are going to these places doing the same idiot things. I was hoping all this Stimulus money would dry up or PPP fraud would take some of them off the radar but social media have made it worst where these old guys who were born in the 50's are doing youtube channels calling it a "travel channel" but all they show are places known for sex and women and nothing more, and its not even like they are doing anything original. The all do the same stupid shit, go to Hollywood Beach, go to Delirium and the clock tower recording all the girls then upload video. I've had chicas text me telling me they know I'm in Cartagena because they saw me in a video on youtube and they feel betrayed because they wanted to see me I never told them I was coming. That's was one of the reasons I stopped going to Sosua and one of the reasons I done like to walk by Delirium at night. Sosua is a total shit show now as many of the good girls figured out Only Fans and don't even go out anymore since they have plenty of dumb guys giving them money for video clips or pictures smh..[/QUOTE]Thanks for that info. I also thought stimulus and PPP drying up would slow down the loudmouths but seems like people who normally would be working low pay low skill jobs with little vacation time are now making a killing selling junk products or services on social media, or being influencers, playing with crypto, etc. Folks now have access to money, time, and knowledge about the world and what's out there. For this particular demographic travel is a relatively new thing, so they think they are special and they need to tell everyone about it. Also international travel used to be exclusive, but now has become cheap and easy. It used to be that you had to plan and prepare, but now guys can just do research on their phone in 30 min and then book flights and lodging with a few taps. Then google translate, google maps, and uber, etc make it even easier. Looks like some of these digital nomads are starting to move to Colombia and other places, and now are looking for the next off the beaten spot to one-up the others, like locusts. Who would have ever thought we would start seeing mongering mass tourism.
What you said about a chica seeing you caught in the background in some bozos youtube video. That is the one of the worst parts about these idiots recording and posting everything. Imagine if one day there is facial recognition software that a wife or someone can upload your photo and run it across youtube videos and see where you might pop up.
Anyway, enough of that. Back to chicas. Heading to Cartagena in a few weeks and will share my experience. Still looking forward to it and will avoid Delirium except for a quick peek.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2679384]She then points to the knob that says "C" and I'm yea, that's cold water I point to the other knob that says "F" and tell her "Feugo". She starts laughing and says nooooooo points the the "C" knob and says calliente, points to the "F" knob and says frio. Then she turn the "C" knob fully on and what do you know there is steam coming out the shower head, the water is scalding hot (we both been in this apartment before a few times, I've never touched the "C" knob because I thought "C" was for cold. SMH)[/QUOTE]LOL. Man you are funny. We live and learn.
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Sobering reminder of importance to follow fundamentals
Hey folks,
So I had a rough time. Very much my own fault. Basically I went the dulce club which had really attractive women. While was there I got picpocketed (stupidly had wad of cash). When I brought the chica back to my Airbnb the desk person (whom spoke no English) denied me return entry. This escalated to a rather unpleasant confrontation. Then realized lost phone as well. Left following day because had a very quick stay. Had better time in Medellin few years ago but I was much more prepared. Figured I'd share my mistakes as reminder how important it is to plan things out properly / take basic cautionary measures.
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[QUOTE=AngleSlam41;2679709]Hey folks,
So I had a rough time. Very much my own fault. Basically I went the dulce club which had really attractive women. While was there I got picpocketed (stupidly had wad of cash). When I brought the chica back to my Airbnb the desk person (whom spoke no English) denied me return entry. This escalated to a rather unpleasant confrontation. Then realized lost phone as well. Left following day because had a very quick stay. Had better time in Medellin few years ago but I was much more prepared. Figured I'd share my mistakes as reminder how important it is to plan things out properly / take basic cautionary measures.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about your bad experiences. This is a reminder to all beginners that Cartagena is not a great monegrino heaven. The chicas have become extremely hardened by the economy and the influx of cheap Venezuelans. They want to get over and will always try. And the buildings being hardasses only compound the problem. Love the place for the weather, food, and beach (Baru), but if I wanted a pure monegrina destination, I'the go to Medellin, Barranquilla, or Cali first.
Safe hunting everyone!
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[QUOTE=AngleSlam41;2679709]Hey folks,
So I had a rough time. Very much my own fault. Basically I went the dulce club which had really attractive women. While was there I got picpocketed (stupidly had wad of cash). When I brought the chica back to my Airbnb the desk person (whom spoke no English) denied me return entry. This escalated to a rather unpleasant confrontation. Then realized lost phone as well. Left following day because had a very quick stay. Had better time in Medellin few years ago but I was much more prepared. Figured I'd share my mistakes as reminder how important it is to plan things out properly / take basic cautionary measures.[/QUOTE]I'm a bit confused.
Why would your Airbnb refuse you entry if it's already paid for? Denying your guest I would understand, but denying you means you violated a rule.
I never carry more than 500 mil at a time which is my usual average 2 LN limit.
There are allot of pickpockets running around outside Dolce, this man tried it with me but I felt the tug I did a spin to see whose behind me and he played it off by also turning around and went to talk to a vendor.
What night did this happen?
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[QUOTE=AngleSlam41;2679709]Hey folks,
So I had a rough time. Very much my own fault. Basically I went the dulce club which had really attractive women. While was there I got picpocketed (stupidly had wad of cash). When I brought the chica back to my Airbnb the desk person (whom spoke no English) denied me return entry. This escalated to a rather unpleasant confrontation. Then realized lost phone as well. Left following day because had a very quick stay. Had better time in Medellin few years ago but I was much more prepared. Figured I'd share my mistakes as reminder how important it is to plan things out properly / take basic cautionary measures.[/QUOTE]My dress attire consists of skinny and slim jeans. Anyone who tries to feel a touch of my back pocket gets immediately noticed.
Second I always make sure when I pick a spot. Is leaning on a wall.
I never stand where people walk in front and behind me.
My cell phone is always on my front pocket.
I carry 600-700 mil at a time. Never more than that.
Pickpockets work in pairs. I'm sure you got distracted while they worked you from behind and the fact you realized your phone was phone back at the hotel shows you got drunk.
The biggest no is to never get drunk while mongering.
Mongering and partying don't mix.
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I'll be there again in the middle of May, I believe that will be my 9th trip there.
Last trip was Halloween weekend that I was there, stayed in one of Juan's places as usual. Only issue was the elevator wasnt working on my floor to go down, so had to walk up or down a flight then get in to go down. Also no working phone to reception, but no big deal. Would give the guard a heads up if I had someone coming.
First night it rained around 8 or 9 so the clock tower cleared out. I went to delirium and ran into a girl I was chatting on tinder. We went back and spent the night. Next day had one come over mid day to hang out and play, that evening had my regular that I've known since about trip 4 meet me for dinner and fun. I the went back out solo since it was early. Ended up going home solo after spending a bit chatting a 7 and her coming with a ridiculous amount. Last full day my regular brought over a friend. We hung out and had fun. Later that night the three of us went out for drinks, hit tons of spots. Remember the curfew and her throwing me in a cab and going to some club near the airport. We made it back around 5 am.
I still have yet to find food there I really look forward to having again. El Muelle actually used to have a few dishes I used to like but past few trips they have always been Out of the items 🙄 and anything else I try there is ehh.
Arepas pues just became to regular for me and unexciting being from Miami.
There is one spot I found I like for easy breakfast, maybe 10 min walk from the apartment. Can walk ya there but can't tell you the name or directions hahah. Just fresh empanadas. Arepas. Eggs if you want. Etc.
I saw a post asking about the penthouse with a jacuzzi. I rented that once from Juan. It was only 1 guest per visitor. So forget any threesomes!
Watching recent videos it looks like most is back to normal as a few years ago. Clock still happening but subdued. I mean it was out of control. Sometimes over 100 girls there. Clubs still happening.
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Middle of May trip
I will be in Cartagena also in middle of May. Although I am in touch with Juan I am not comfortable staying in an apartment yet. Booked at Marriott Ermita. I am a valued member. Not sure if they allow visitors. Plan is to get a girl to check in with me. Since it is my first trip which will be more of an exploratory nature. I read the reports. There are are short time hotels. Not worried about girls robbing me since I am prudent and never carry lots of cash or anything real valuable. Just enough local currency for the day.
Maybe I can talk to the Uber driver from the airport to take me around to check girls and negotiate LT stay in hotel. Once again valuables are locked up. If she is good can keep her for the duration and do touristy things.
I will hit tinder before I go also.
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Saturday. Monday
Saturday comes around and my Dolce girl gets up and tell me the usual "me voy" I ask her how much she needs and just just says 20 K for the taxi. So I ask her if she wants to grab breakfast and she responds "si, tengo hambre. " (I've been hearing this a few times from my chicas on this trip but have been ignoring it since I'm always ordering food when they arrive or meeting them at a food spot). So finally I asked her what it means and she explains, at that point I was confused because "tengo" means "I have" and "hambre" means hungry so I didn't quite understand how "tengo hambre" translated to "I'm hungry" as I would have expected it to be "yo soy hambre". She gave me a quick lesson on I, him, her, we, us, them and I sort of understood, a bit. Hit the coffee shop, finished up breakfast and she leaves. I decide to walk around for a bit, walk the beach, check out some more paintings inside the walls but these sellers trying to charge $600 for something decent. By the time I finished wasting time Chica #8 wants to see me so I decide just meet over lunch she shows up "hola, coma esta, tengo hambre" I couldn't help but laugh because this chica can eat twice as much as me and is super tiny. We finish the food, walk around for a bit, I was about send her on her way when she wanted to come back to the apartment for a bit. Fine. We get there, I go to shower off the sweat and when I come out she's naked saying "quiero sexo" fine. Finished that, she showed off then jumps in the bed and goes to sleep. Figure this would be a good time to type up a report. Few hours she wakes up and wants taxi money to go home and get ready to work in Delirium tonight, I'm out of small bills so I just gave her 100 K bill and sent her on her way.
I head out shortly after her and decide to walk the pussy triangle see if anything is good there. Nothing. Then I see my Dolce girl coming out with some Indian looking guy looks like she's going to get that $600 I guess. I head to the clocktower which I normally don't do and got a good natural one for 300 K for a few hours. Back to the apartment finished it up when my Dolce chica says she's finished working and wants to see me, I tell her, no, I saw you with that guy and were going to need a bigger time gap for sex, maybe in the morning, so she says she's going home. Sent the new girl on her way and that's that.
Sunday.
I get a text from Dolce girl around 10 am. She wants to know what I'm doing, its was a boring day so I was just cleaning up the apartment before meeting Chica #11 again for another 3 hole session for 300 K. We don't even talk numbers anymore, she knows if she's coming its 300 K for all three. She doesn't believe I'm just cleaning up, decides to video call me, I pick up and recognize the background, its the background of inside a boat with a bed. This fucking girl is on a yacht, so I ask her why isn't she home, she says the guy offered her another $300 to go on the boat with him. OK he's got money to burn go get your money, I tell her see you when your done and went to meet Chica #11. We get to talking again about complete random stuff, fun conversations, laughing about the whole "tengo hambre" vs "yo soy hambre". Pounding beers then back to the apartment another great session I didn't even realize she was with me for 6 hours until Chica #2 sent me the "hola". Finally! A response, I haven't seen her in 7 months and just been watching her Instagram where I see her ass got super plump. She wants to meet. I send Chica #11 on her way with her 300 K and head to meet Chica #2 as she said she was in Space. I get to space but tell her I'm not going in, I've managed to stay out of the clubs so far I don't want to head in. I'm outside waiting across the street looking a the entrance to Space when I feel someone hug me from the back, I grab their hand and turn around and its her! Told her she told me she was in Space and she said she went to get something to eat so I respond back with "siempre hambre" and she laughs and says "tengo hambre". We grab some bites and head back to the apartment and get to talking about their trip. She said she only stood on the main island and couldn't got to the other islands because there were sharks and one bit an Italian man and showed me the video which was the same video another chica showed me on Friday. So I asked if if she's sure because someone told me this was Chlon, she says no San Andres. Well moving on, she takes of her clothes and damn she put on weight, so I ask her "que te pasa" while pointing at her stomach she laughing "tengo hambre, simpre hambre" we both start laughing and get the session is, she haven't seem me in a while so I forgot she likes to lock her feet around the back of my knees in doggie style and she forgot I like to go long and deep, she ached her back a little too much and the angle was just right to hit her wall out comes the "dolor, dwelle" screams. Fine, switch she's on top, now I can really see the her belly hanging damn she's been eating a lot. We finish up and goes to sleep. She loves being a little spoon, all throughout the night I just kept feeling my hand being moved to hold her as she backs her ass into me.
Monday.
We wake up, get another session in. She has to run to the bank because of some problem. This was my first time overnight with her and I've never discussed prices with her for overnight as its usual just a polvo so I just hand her the usual 500 K I keep in my pocket, she counts it doesn't say anything and put it in her bag. I guess that's the agreed amount for overnights going forward. She leaves. I go grab breakfast and bubble guts kicked in, time for the shits which I was doing all day till about 8 pm when I went back out to get something to eat and try to keep something in my stomach. After a bit I felt better and decided to just sleep it off when Dolce girl text me she's done working which was odd because she told me she only work Thursday to Saturday. So I asked her what work, same guy gave her $300 for 2 hours that she couldn't pass up. Well I wouldn't either. She says she needs to see me because she didn't get a orgasm while working over the weekend and needs one to sleep well. So I joke and say if she finished before I do then she has to pay me her asking price of 800 K, she laughs and heads to me. I pick up some beers and back to the apartment for more GFE. I don't know what work she did these 3 days because she was tighter than how I left her and the contractions were stronger. She came before I did, knocked out sleeping leaving me to clean her up and my mess I left on her back, then throwing the covers over her. This dolce girl is going to be the death of me one day I already know it.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;2680202]I will be in Cartagena also in middle of May. Although I am in touch with Juan I am not comfortable staying in an apartment yet. Booked at Marriott Ermita. I am a valued member. Not sure if they allow visitors. Plan is to get a girl to check in with me. Since it is my first trip which will be more of an exploratory nature. I read the reports. There are are short time hotels. Not worried about girls robbing me since I am prudent and never carry lots of cash or anything real valuable. Just enough local currency for the day.
Maybe I can talk to the Uber driver from the airport to take me around to check girls and negotiate LT stay in hotel. Once again valuables are locked up. If she is good can keep her for the duration and do touristy things.
I will hit tinder before I go also.[/QUOTE]Marriott Ermita allows guest last time I checked.
Uber is illegal in Colombia, I do not believe they can pick you up from the airport. You can still use the app but you may run into the issue I do where they would constantly cancel the ride is the rare was too low. I would be in El Laguito requesting a car to go to Centro or Getsemeni and it shows 5 around me, tells me 5 minutes only to then go back to selecting driver and it will cancel and pick on that's all the way in Gesementi or Centro that's 15 minutes away. InDriver is the preferred app that the chicas use.
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[QUOTE=ElIntocableDr;2680053]My dress attire consists of skinny and slim jeans. Anyone who tries to feel a touch of my back pocket gets immediately noticed.
Second I always make sure when I pick a spot. Is leaning on a wall.[/QUOTE]Are you saying that you actually keep stuff in your back pocket? All they have to do is slice the bottom of your pocket with a razor and follow you until whatever is inside falls out. You will not even notice it, skinny jeans or anything else.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2676379]You're going to see the loud mouths who act like Chris Tucker in Rush Hour mostly at Delirium, its like the Classico of Sosua.
Yes, the idiots many of us wanted to get away from Stateside now have passports and are going to these places doing the same idiot things. I was hoping all this Stimulus money would dry up or PPP fraud would take some of them off the radar but social media have made it worst where these old guys who were born in the 50's are doing youtube channels calling it a "travel channel" but all they show are places known for sex and women and nothing more, and its not even like they are doing anything original. The all do the same stupid shit, go to Hollywood Beach, go to Delirium and the clock tower recording all the girls then upload video. I've had chicas text me telling me they know I'm in Cartagena because they saw me in a video on youtube and they feel betrayed because they wanted to see me I never told them I was coming. That's was one of the reasons I stopped going to Sosua and one of the reasons I done like to walk by Delirium at night. Sosua is a total shit show now as many of the good girls figured out Only Fans and don't even go out anymore since they have plenty of dumb guys giving them money for video clips or pictures smh.
Whatever your doing, just be aware. Watch their channels to see what countries they are going to and plan around them so you won't be where they will be. Last year I didn't do my due diligence and ended up in the middle of a Sosua meet up in Cartagena. Loud mouths, making it rain, bidding wars for chicas, money throwers. Total shit show.
The best advice I can give is don't make my mistakes, plan ahead, make sure you're all set with guest friendly accommodations and no last-minute security rules BS.
I'm in Cartagena right now but I'm just laying low and hanging out with chicas I already know. I might head out tomorrow afternoon and do a little shopping at the beach then bring them back to the apartment and chill in the pool.[/QUOTE]That PPP and unemployment money was the reason prices jacked up big time.
Guys who never came to Colombia were spending 200 usd + on girls from the start.
And with SEA opening back up I'm starting to notice a decline in weekend warriors.
Last time I was in Ctg girls were asking 300 usd at dolce vita. And wouldn't budge at 100 usd for an hour. And all want to do CBJ.
Hilarious!!
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[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2680346]That PPP and unemployment money was the reason prices jacked up big time.
Guys who never came to Colombia were spending 200 usd + on girls from the start.
And with SEA opening back up I'm starting to notice a decline in weekend warriors.
Last time I was in Ctg girls were asking 300 usd at dolce vita. And wouldn't budge at 100 usd for an hour. And all want to do CBJ.[/QUOTE]That did not come from PPP, unemployment, or us SEA guys (where it is $30 all night for everything bare). As Nypher alluded to, that is purely the result of Sosua guys branching out.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2680208]Marriott Ermita allows guest last time I checked.
Uber is illegal in Colombia, I do not believe they can pick you up from the airport. You can still use the app but you may run into the issue I do where they would constantly cancel the ride is the rare was too low. I would be in El Laguito requesting a car to go to Centro or Getsemeni and it shows 5 around me, tells me 5 minutes only to then go back to selecting driver and it will cancel and pick on that's all the way in Gesementi or Centro that's 15 minutes away. InDriver is the preferred app that the chicas use.[/QUOTE]I will check with Marriott by sending them a e mail.
If Uber is not an option what's the best way to go from airport to Marriott? Marriott has a free airport ride if booked in advance. But some reviews say they waited for the shuttle which never came. If taxi what's the normal fare, do not want to be fleeced.
Thanks,
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[QUOTE=Sammon;2680478]I will check with Marriott by sending them a e mail.
If Uber is not an option what's the best way to go from airport to Marriott? Marriott has a free airport ride if booked in advance. But some reviews say they waited for the shuttle which never came. If taxi what's the normal fare, do not want to be fleeced.
Thanks,[/QUOTE]I'm not sure where the Marriott is but taxis are cheap and everywhere. Cost me $5-$6 from airport to near the end of Bocagrande. Paid 22 m on the way in and 25 m on the way out in Jan.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;2680478]I will check with Marriott by sending them a e mail.
If Uber is not an option what's the best way to go from airport to Marriott? Marriott has a free airport ride if booked in advance. But some reviews say they waited for the shuttle which never came. If taxi what's the normal fare, do not want to be fleeced.[/QUOTE]Don't worry about being fleeced, if it's going to happen it's going to happen jajajaj.
Prices went up all around. I paid 25 K from airport to El Laguito. And from Centro to El Laguito at nights is 15 K even when using Uber it's only like a 2 K difference.
Girls went up too so if you plan to hunt for something new make sure to have a solid back up.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2680482]Don't worry about being fleeced, if it's going to happen it's going to happen jajajaj.
Prices went up all around. I paid 25 K from airport to El Laguito. And from Centro to El Laguito at nights is 15 K even when using Uber it's only like a 2 K difference.
Girls went up too so if you plan to hunt for something new make sure to have a solid back up.[/QUOTE]Price has gone up all over the world. I am sure I can find someone to fit my needs. GFE maybe hard to come by. This is an exploratory trip which was on my bucket list. I will hit tinder and see if someone can stay with me and do touristy things as well. If not so be it.
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Don't know if it will be a next time
What's up bros chiming in from Medellin right now my flight leaves Friday I have been in Medellin for two weeks and this past weekend I was in Cartagena. I don't know if it was from being in Medellin a whole week before I went but Cartagena was overwhelming for one reason. The most and worst thing (I was already warned) is the begging not just vendors but every damn soul in Cartagena. There is not one moment of peace outside of your place that you choose to stay. Getsemani, Clock Tower, the beach, any and every street you walk on day or night it is no peace at all! You can't enjoy yourself because of all the damn begging, the city is beautiful and has all the potential in the world of one of the best places on earth to go but I was completely turned off the entire time I was there. I went to centro both nights Delerium (however you spell it) it was no better 50 million beautiful girls I could not even just chill and pick what I wanted. Little kids not just 3 or 4 like 30 coming up to you and saying "bruh I am hungry" and will not leave you the fuck alone. I asked them all where is your mother at and all of a sudden here comes woman with little infants to help the little kids beg. It is 2 and 3 in the fucking morning bro no CAP shit is crazy. It's girls there man and to each his own but I have been with many chicas in Medellin and walked all over these streets and not saying no one will not ask you for money but it is one or two here and there which is cool. I don't want to shit on the city man the girls are beautiful but they became secondary with all the other bullshit Cartagena offered me. I walked out of the tourist area and walked all over Cartagena the last day I was there and not one person begged me for anything for those 5 or 6 hours I had peace in that city. I am just writing what I experienced it don't mean nothing to the next man. I said I will go again maybe next time will be better. FYI My apartment was guest friendly but I was so exhausted from battling with the begging folks and and vendors I did not even get a chica in Cartagena. Medellin has by far made up for it. That is just my interpretation of the situation.
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Tengo hambre is the new hola jajaja
[QUOTE=AtlNightmare;2680551]What's up bros chiming in from Medellin right now my flight leaves Friday I have been in Medellin for two weeks and this past weekend I was in Cartagena. I don't know if it was from being in Medellin a whole week before I went but Cartagena was overwhelming for one reason. The most and worst thing (I was already warned) is the begging not just vendors but every damn soul in Cartagena. There is not one moment of peace outside of your place that you choose to stay. Getsemani, Clock Tower, the beach, any and every street you walk on day or night it is no peace at all! You can't enjoy yourself because of all the damn begging, the city is beautiful and has all the potential in the world of one of the best places on earth to go but I was completely turned off the entire time I was there. I went to centro both nights Delerium (however you spell it) it was no better 50 million beautiful girls I could not even just chill and pick what I wanted. Little kids not just 3 or 4 like 30 coming up to you and saying "bruh I am hungry" and will not leave you the fuck alone. I asked them all where is your mother at and all of a sudden here comes woman with little infants to help the little kids beg. It is 2 and 3 in the fucking morning bro no CAP shit is crazy. It's girls there man and to each his own but I have been with many chicas in Medellin and walked all over these streets and not saying no one will not ask you for money but it is one or two here and there which is cool. I don't want to shit on the city man the girls are beautiful but they became secondary with all the other bullshit Cartagena offered me. I walked out of the tourist area and walked all over Cartagena the last day I was there and not one person begged me for anything for those 5 or 6 hours I had peace in that city. I am just writing what I experienced it don't mean nothing to the next man. I said I will go again maybe next time will be better..[/QUOTE]I thought it was just me but yep, that "tengo hambre" is the new hola. Endless of that shit no matter where you go, even the chicas saying it jajaja.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2680359]That did not come from PPP, unemployment, or us SEA guys (where it is $30 all night for everything bare). As Nypher alluded to, that is purely the result of Sosua guys branching out.[/QUOTE]I disagree. Also, I'm alluding to prices in Colombia going up. That came from Ppp and new $$.
Sosua guys especially the vets didn't pay these ridiculous prices.
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When I read comments like this
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2680346]That PPP and unemployment money was the reason prices jacked up big time.
Guys who never came to Colombia were spending 200 usd + on girls from the start.
And with SEA opening back up I'm starting to notice a decline in weekend warriors.
Last time I was in Ctg girls were asking 300 usd at dolce vita. And wouldn't budge at 100 usd for an hour. And all want to do CBJ.
Hilarious!![/QUOTE]When I read comments like this I just have to roll my eyes. I wish the poster would open their eyes and look around.
How many other countries in the world don't suffer from inflation? How many other countries in the world didn't have some type of lockdown or restrictions in place during COVID? How many other industries worldwide have decided that they need to increase prices over-and-above the rate of inflation in order to make up for almost 2 years of lost or severely diminished income?
The answers to the above questions are: none, none and all of them.
But sure, let's blame PPP and unemployment!
Hey, here's a thought. Let's just say that worldwide mongering prices were lower during the reign of Corporal Bone Spurs because he fought to keep prices down. (FYI, the prior sentence was sarcasm.)
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[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2680721]I disagree. Also, I'm alluding to prices in Colombia going up. That came from Ppp and new $$.
Sosua guys especially the vets didn't pay these ridiculous prices.[/QUOTE]I think the price is going up but not all at once. It is like real estate. Usually the above average price areas go up first. If that lasts long enough, the least expensive places will eventually go up. So I think that is why some see it and some don't. You happen to be a buyer in the above average price areas so you observe it first. I heard La Isla and Gusto have double or triple their covers and increase the drink price. That is another example.
Personally I do think there are some government money directly or indrectly. There are many programs, not just PPP. Some need to be earned. If one falls into this category, then he has to take advantage of it to earn money in this period and can't monger actually. Some like you mentioned, don't require work, the ones who qualify will be able to monger.
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Making it rain in Dolce
Tuesday comes around. Dolce girl gets up can't find her panties we're tossing the entire room upside down looking for them but no where to be found, so she leaves wearing a skirt and no panties. I need to clean up and there is makeup all over the sheets. So doing laundry and cleaning up all the hair these chicas leave all over when Chica #8 has a problem. She needs to pay rent and don't have money. I ask her how much she needs she says 500 K, I send it to her and kept cleaning. I hardly left the apartment, and it was a good break just to have time to myself but I couldn't let a day go by without letting out the leche. I message chica #8 and she's still running around says she will come see me tonight if I'm not with a girl, if not she's going to Delirium to work, I tell her get to me by 10 pm or you can go straight to Delirium. I text chica #9 and she's off the rag! I tell her come over for a quick 200 K polvo and she agrees and now I remember this chica, she was the "I'm 30 minutes away from Centro", when in reality she was 1 hour and 15 minutes away. I give her the location and she send me her live location, she's coing from waaaaay out there by Centro Comerical Paseo de La Castellana, but I now understand Colombian Chica time, always multiple by 3 whatever timeframe they give you. Time flew I didn't even realize it was around 7 pm and I told her to come, she get to me around 8:30 and we go straight to dinner because I was so busy cleaning I had zero thoughts of food for the whole day. We finish up around 9:30 then head to the apartment, to chill, just then Chica #8 sends me her live location, she's on her way and making record time to beat her deadline. Fuck! I can't flake on her and I can't get a quick leche in. I tell chica #9 tonight isn't going a planned and handed her 250 k, 200 k for the agreed amount and an extra 50 k for the inconvenience of having her come all the way out here and round trip taxi, then tell her my amiga will be here any moment and she's welcome to stay and hang out but we we cannot do anything, she's cool with it and Chica #8 shows up at 9:59, buzzer beater. I let her in, introductions are made they start talking and laughing. Chica #8 knows I have allot of chicas and plays it cool but Chica #9 is starting to understand. About an hour of hanging out and Chica #9 leaves. Chica #8 starts joking around asking if chica #9 took all the leche, I couldn't even say much and just laugh and she know me by now jajaja then comes the Tengo hambre, gave her the phone tell her grab whatever from Rappi and its another wait. She gets the food we start drinking and I don't even remember what happened as it was now 10 am and I was waking up in the bed with her on top of me and that's when I saw Dolce girl panties hanging off the ceiling fan SMH.
Wednesday.
I get out the bed and leave her in it, shower up and ask her if she wants breakfast, of course "tengo hambre" order in, we finish eating then she disappears, I find her in the bed knocked out cold and she was there till about 4 pm just sleeping. I tell her I'm ready to head out and she she decides to head home and change to get ready for work. Calls her taxi and leaves dint ask for taxi money or anything.
Chica#11 finally send me an hola and she's off the rag! A new one I've been dying to test out since she's super petite with some big tits that doesn't need a bra. Perky! I tell her to come over and what do you know same shit as chica #9, she's also coming from all the way out there in the same area and by the way her live location was looking it looks like she took a moto to the bus terminal, then took the bus close to Centro then took a taxi to me. Damn! Now I'm feeling bad for the 200 K GFE offer. She get here and just like her photos, strips down, and those tits were just as I imagined perky, natural 20 year old. We get to talking and she's a waitress at a coffee shop, she doesn't do this often but can use the extra money. We get to the bedroom, great GFE and we get to talk some more after. She's funny and now gives me a different mindset as I have not gone to the clubs to look for chicas since I got here on this trip and its been quite peaceful of not having to constantly negotiate while she knows she have others that will pay a higher because they don't know any better. Cute and she never once said tengo Hambre jaja. Gave her 250 K and send her on her way, will definitely be seeing her more before I go.
Dolce chica messages me, I completely forgot were supposed to meet up tonight. We shoot for 10 pm she gets to me, I give her the panties, she wants to know where they were, I didn't even want to explain. We head out grab food and drinks then she had the bright idea for us to go to Dolce since I have not been to the clubs yet. We walk in there's black and gold balloons everywhere and what looks like lots of Indians, there's this one table against the wall under the TV with a bunch of guys who start throwing stacks of 2 K bills in the air. The girls jumping on the floor scrambling to pick the bills up and I just shake my head as this is what I didn't want around me. Were chilling and just when I thought it was over these guys pull put a gold money gun SMH! More bills in the air, some land on us and my chica grabs them, must have been about 10 of them, she then hands them to a girl behind her. I ask her why didn't she keep them, she said she don't need it as she's with me and they need it more since they are not with a guy, it will be taxi money for them to get home. Makes sense. I then ask her if these were the Indians who was getting hit for $600 a night because they are ordering bottles of brown Don Julio, and other bottles as well, she said no, these are the Arabs, they are always here, lots of drinking, drugs, but only want to pay the girls $60 to $80 so she never goes with them, also they will want the girl to sleep with all of them which she do not do. Midnight comes, confetti, 50 cent birthday song and more bills are thrown in the air SMH. I had enough I told her were leaving. Back to the apartment more GFE and I just pass out from tonight disappointment. Woke up the next morning to a message from another Dolce girl who I was talking to, I forgot I handed her my phone when I was talking to her. She took a video of the money throwing with my phone and wants it. Now I'm lost to what she's talking about. I look through my phone and sure enough there's a video of them throwing money SMH.
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[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2680721]Sosua guys especially the vets didn't pay these ridiculous prices.[/QUOTE]What are Sosua guys paying? I am a Sosua vet from when it was 1000 pesos all night and it did not even need to be discussed. I have sat and talked with guys in Sosua that were proud of giving chicks $100 for short time. That is when my Sosua days ended and you started to see even the worst chicks in Sosua say $100 papi. This was years before covid and PPP.
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2680753]When I read comments like this I just have to roll my eyes. I wish the poster would open their eyes and look around.
How many other countries in the world don't suffer from inflation?[/QUOTE]Exactly! It seems you are seeing things the same as I am. As I always say, in the last 14 years of living in Thailand my rent has been the same 4500 baht ($135) per month, taxi from the airport the same 1000 baht ($30) for an hour and a half ride, and I am still giving chicks 1000 baht ($30) for all night. And the same hotel and taxi prices and amount for chicks in Philippines in the 13 years I have been going there as well.
There is only one reason for chick prices in Latin America to have busted out of the roof, and it is not inflation. Because when you check out the places that locals go, the prices have not changed much. You only find this "inflation" with places or chicks that gringos frequent.
Another poster took me to a spot in Bogota where you pay 50,000 pesos to enter and you can fuck 4 chicks for 20 minutes each. Somebody must have forgotten to tell that place about inflation.
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[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2680721]I disagree. Also, I'm alluding to prices in Colombia going up. That came from Ppp and new $$.
Sosua guys especially the vets didn't pay these ridiculous prices.[/QUOTE]I believe prices went up because we have mongers traveling from big cities where they are accustomed to pay $300 an hour for something they like so when they come to CTG, $300 for the night is like bargain bin basement. Sometimes I laugh when I see these guys proudly walking out of Delirium holding hands with something that look like an overweight ostrich but that's what he likes and that's what he's paying for.
I top out at 600 K for the night or she can kick rocks. I find allot of the mongers who are having price problems are the ones who never explored beyond Dolce, Space, Delirium, Clocktower and Hollywood Beach.
I'm done with those places and this trip have proved to myself what I wanted to test. All my Tinders have been below 300 K. Many have regular jobs and / or students and just need extra money. They aren't walking the street or working the clubs so they aren't trying to take everything out of a gringos pocket.
Also it helps when they know you. I'm here for weeks at a time, weekend warriors who just pop in and pop out will get market rate.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2680802]I think the price is going up but not all at once. It is like real estate. Usually the above average price areas go up first. If that lasts long enough, the least expensive places will eventually go up. So I think that is why some see it and some don't. You happen to be a buyer in the above average price areas so you observe it first. I heard La Isla and Gusto have double or triple their covers and increase the drink price. That is another example.
Personally I do think there are some government money directly or indrectly. There are many programs, not just PPP. Some need to be earned. If one falls into this category, then he has to take advantage of it to earn money in this period and can't monger actually. Some like you mentioned, don't require work, the ones who qualify will be able to monger.[/QUOTE]I have not pulled girls from Gustos in a long time. The quality there is horrible now.
But my friend asked a girl her price and her starting point was 300 usd.
The same for Dolce Vida. Only diff was there was a few decent ones there and when I was actually considering one girl I asked for a BBBJ she said she doesn't do that ever. And her price was 300 usd. I couldn't help but laugh.
This was in December of last year.
I don't believe these prices will last simply because the weekend warriors and "fake ballers" with that ppp money will not be around anymore.
That and SEA opening back will hurt the girls pockets and eventually they'll have to come back down to earth.
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You obviously don't what I'm insinuating
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2680753]When I read comments like this I just have to roll my eyes. I wish the poster would open their eyes and look around.
How many other countries in the world don't suffer from inflation? How many other countries in the world didn't have some type of lockdown or restrictions in place during COVID? How many other industries worldwide have decided that they need to increase prices over-and-above the rate of inflation in order to make up for almost 2 years of lost or severely diminished income?
The answers to the above questions are: none, none and all of them.
But sure, let's blame PPP and unemployment!
Hey, here's a thought. Let's just say that worldwide mongering prices were lower during the reign of Corporal Bone Spurs because he fought to keep prices down. (FYI, the prior sentence was sarcasm.)[/QUOTE]To be clear the PPP and unemployment money that I'm referring to was the new found wealth many people found and decided to come to Colombia to become new ballers for pretty girls.
Which is what made many girls hold out and up their prices.
Has nothing to do with inflation.
What happened was many new mongers with this new found wealth from govt money went balls out on average looking girls. Word got around and other girls joined the party.
I think Cartagena and Medellin working girls benefited from this most.
Almost every girl from dolce vita that I spoke to was from either medellin or Bogota.
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[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2680895]I have not pulled girls from Gustos in a long time. The quality there is horrible now.
But my friend asked a girl her price and her starting point was 300 usd.
The same for Dolce Vida. Only diff was there was a few decent ones there and when I was actually considering one girl I asked for a BBBJ she said she doesn't do that ever. And her price was 300 usd. I couldn't help but laugh.
This was in December of last year.
I don't believe these prices will last simply because the weekend warriors and "fake ballers" with that ppp money will not be around anymore.
That and SEA opening back will hurt the girls pockets and eventually they'll have to come back down to earth.[/QUOTE]It's just a way to explain the different observations people have. You don't have to be in a specific place to see it because you can observe it somewhere else.
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Avoid thief with Snake tattoo on left forearm
If your in CTG avoid a petite Venezuelan with a large snake tattoo on her left forearm with the head of the snake pointing to her wrist. Caught her when I noticed she was in too much of a hurry to put her clothes back on as none of my chicas ever get dressed that fast and nervously.
When we got to the room she wanted to be paid upfront (I should have kicked her out right here) and with the usual 500 K I keep in my pocket I counted out the agreed 200 K and gave it to her and put the rest of the money in my pants. Turned to plug in my phone and that's all the time she needed. She put the 200 K on the nightstand where I can see it and hid the 300 K in her clothes during the activity, then after, when she was rapidly getting dressed shoved it in her asscrack. Confronted her about it which she denied but I knew she had it. Had to put her out.
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You don't have a clue
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2680898]To be clear the PPP and unemployment money that I'm referring to was the new found wealth many people found and decided to come to Colombia to become new ballers for pretty girls.
Which is what made many girls hold out and up their prices.
Has nothing to do with inflation.
What happened was many new mongers with this new found wealth from govt money went balls out on average looking girls. Word got around and other girls joined the party.
I think Cartagena and Medellin working girls benefited from this most.
Almost every girl from dolce vita that I spoke to was from either medellin or Bogota.[/QUOTE]PPP (Paycheck Protection Program) money (assuming someone who owned a business used the money legitimately) could not be used that way. "NBER analysis of PPP found that 75% of PPP funds went to business owners, shareholders, creditors, and suppliers and roughly 25% to workers who would have otherwise lost their jobs. " Furthermore, "NBER found that about 75% of PPP funds went to the top 20% of households by income. " And "PPP funds were paid to businesses that used the funds to pay retained and previously unemployed workers. Roughly 25% of PPP loan funds were used for that purpose. Of the remaining 75% of funds, creditors who would not have been paid also became beneficiaries. " [URL]https://www.investopedia.com/where-ppp-money-went-5216725[/URL]#text=PPP%20 funds%20 were%20 paid%20 to, been%20 paid%20 also%20 became%20 beneficiaries.
Perhaps you meant "stimulus money" instead of PPP. Wow, that $1,400 would have gone a long way (sarcasm). And "unemployment"? Whoopee, someone who is unemployed, living paycheck-to-paycheck anyway, and they get a whopping $300 per month extra in unemployment and they're going to jet off to Colombia and bang hookers.
But just keep believing what you want to believe. Don't let what happened in the [B]real world[/B] influence your thinking. Smh.
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[QUOTE=PVMonger;2681090]PPP (Paycheck Protection Program) money (assuming someone who owned a business used the money legitimately) could not be used that way. "NBER analysis of PPP found that 75% of PPP funds went to business owners, shareholders, creditors, and suppliers and roughly 25% to workers who would have otherwise lost their jobs. " Furthermore, "NBER found that about 75% of PPP funds went to the top 20% of households by income. " And "PPP funds were paid to businesses that used the funds to pay retained and previously unemployed workers. Roughly 25% of PPP loan funds were used for that purpose. Of the remaining 75% of funds, creditors who would not have been paid also became beneficiaries. " [URL]https://www.investopedia.com/where-ppp-money-went-5216725[/URL]#text=PPP%20 funds%20 were%20 paid%20 to, been%20 paid%20 also%20 became%20 beneficiaries.
Perhaps you meant "stimulus money" instead of PPP. Wow, that $1,400 would have gone a long way (sarcasm). And "unemployment"? Whoopee, someone who is unemployed, living paycheck-to-paycheck anyway, and they get a whopping $300 per month extra in unemployment and they're going to jet off to Colombia and bang hookers.
But just keep believing what you want to believe. Don't let what happened in the [B]real world[/B] influence your thinking. Smh.[/QUOTE]You would be surprised how many of these fake ballers I know who still live at home with their mom rent free still have their cellphone on their moms family plan. Failure to launch syndrome. I know many who did PPP fraud claiming to be barbers even though they weren't just to get money. Same with stimulus money, knew some that quit their jobs to get unemployment because it paid higher than their minimum wage job only to realize they can't get unemployment if they quit and can only get it for being laid off / fired.
Just an observation from my view. I live in NJ and in NYC daily, you cannot believe the amount of fraud to get government money to ball out on over here. I can get into the bums who move into a girl Section A apartment he agrees to pay her rent because it's little to him. The one who take their name of their moms project apartment so rent is only 30% of her income alone meanwhile they still live there. Upper east side rent control apartment passed down in the family sublet out at market rate meanwhile they live in Florida.
I'm just watching them ball out because once they reach that 40 and 50 it will catch up with them.
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[QUOTE=PVMonger;2681090]... Whoopee, someone who is unemployed, living paycheck-to-paycheck anyway, and they get a whopping $300 per month extra in unemployment and they're going to jet off to Colombia and bang hookers..[/QUOTE]I am not 100% sure either way. I think it is $300/ week for many states, plus the stimulus money. I know several expats who don't live is US receive stimulus money. Not everyone receive the money is poor, even a very small percentage can have an impact but I guess they are not likely to pay US $300.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2681161]I am not 100% sure either way. I think it is $300/ week for many states, plus the stimulus money. I know several expats who don't live is US receive stimulus money. Not everyone receive the money is poor, even a very small percentage can have an impact but I guess they are not likely to pay US $300.[/QUOTE]It's fraud as well. I know expats who are do veterans fraud, claiming PTSD to get money from the military living in DR doing Travel Chanel on YouTube.
I know people who apply for affordable housing in a luxury building, once they get the apartment furnish it, sublet it at market rate for 3 times the price while they move back in with their parents.
Allot of they young folks are getting government money via fraud and traveling.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2681066]If your in CTG avoid a petite Venezuelan with a large snake tattoo on her left forearm with the head of the snake pointing to her wrist. Caught her when I noticed she was in too much of a hurry to put her clothes back on [/QUOTE]So your new method of getting chicks is going wrong?
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[QUOTE=PVMonger;2681090]Perhaps you meant "stimulus money" instead of PPP. Wow, that $1,400 would have gone a long way (sarcasm).[/QUOTE]Yep. I would definitely give several random 3rd world hookers $300 each of my $1400. Damn all my other bills and eating.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2681190]So your new method of getting chicks is going wrong?[/QUOTE]This one was a last minute thing.
It was at 1 in the morning and the girl that was with me had an emergency and needed to go home. I kind of figured something was wrong because she kept sending voice messages back and forth with someone and I could hear it in her voice something wasn't right. I should have just called it a night and taken my stupid ass to sleep but I decided to walk by the clocktower a see if I can get a good one off so I can sleep well.
If it wasn't for a camera I would have never found the money on her with how fast and well she hid it. I'm actually going over the other camera footage now. People think I'm paranoid because I bring spy security cameras with me when I travel but those little things can identify and let me know exactly what happens / happened when something goes wrong.
A little USB phone charger camera goes a long way, I just aim it where I keep my valuables and hope I never have to look at the recording as things can get ugly once you confront them with video of them doing it. (been there before in DR when a chica tried to steal my Cologne).
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To be very direct about this
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2681090]PPP (Paycheck Protection Program) money (assuming someone who owned a business used the money legitimately) could not be used that way. "NBER analysis of PPP found that 75% of PPP funds went to business owners, shareholders, creditors, and suppliers and roughly 25% to workers who would have otherwise lost their jobs. " Furthermore, "NBER found that about 75% of PPP funds went to the top 20% of households by income. " And "PPP funds were paid to businesses that used the funds to pay retained and previously unemployed workers. Roughly 25% of PPP loan funds were used for that purpose. Of the remaining 75% of funds, creditors who would not have been paid also became beneficiaries. " [URL]https://www.investopedia.com/where-ppp-money-went-5216725[/URL]#text=PPP%20 funds%20 were%20 paid%20 to, been%20 paid%20 also%20 became%20 beneficiaries.
Perhaps you meant "stimulus money" instead of PPP. Wow, that $1,400 would have gone a long way (sarcasm). And "unemployment"? Whoopee, someone who is unemployed, living paycheck-to-paycheck anyway, and they get a whopping $300 per month extra in unemployment and they're going to jet off to Colombia and bang hookers.
But just keep believing what you want to believe. Don't let what happened in the [B]real world[/B] influence your thinking. Smh.[/QUOTE]This is not the board to discuss what I'm actually referring to.
If you go to Ctg or Mde you can physically see what type of new blood is coming in from the states.
If you're not street savy then you're not going to know what I'm talking about.
Another contributing factor is the old timers who are big on SEA.
They were also coming to Colombia during the pandemic.
The prices for everything from food to real estate to girls are going up.
But now that the world is back to normal and SEA will open back up I'm noticing those same girls are now struggling.
Desperate for customers. However they're still maintaining high prices.
But based on what I'm observing I feel within a few months prices will start to go back down but still be higher than it was 5 years ago.
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[QUOTE=PVMonger;2681090]PPP (Paycheck Protection Program) Perhaps you meant "stimulus money" instead of PPP. Wow, that $1,400 would have gone a long way (sarcasm). And "unemployment"? Whoopee, someone who is unemployed, living paycheck-to-paycheck anyway, and they get a whopping $300 per month extra in unemployment and they're going to jet off to Colombia and bang hookers.
But just keep believing what you want to believe. Don't let what happened in the [B]real world[/B] influence your thinking. Smh.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more.
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Me Too
[QUOTE=Nypher;2681066]If your in CTG avoid a petite Venezuelan with a large snake tattoo on her left forearm with the head of the snake pointing to her wrist. Caught her when I noticed she was in too much of a hurry to put her clothes back on as none of my chicas ever get dressed that fast and nervously.
When we got to the room she wanted to be paid upfront (I should have kicked her out right here) and with the usual 500 K I keep in my pocket I counted out the agreed 200 K and gave it to her and put the rest of the money in my pants. Turned to plug in my phone and that's all the time she needed. She put the 200 K on the nightstand where I can see it and hid the 300 K in her clothes during the activity, then after, when she was rapidly getting dressed shoved it in her asscrack. Confronted her about it which she denied but I knew she had it. Had to put her out.[/QUOTE]I too was almost had by a wide hip big booty Venezuelan. I had entered the tower late in the am About a month ago. She appeared as a nice sweet talking Chica so polite told me everything I wanted to hear. I told her if I take her big ass with me I'm not easy and she would need to earn every peso I pay her and I wanted that ass too or no deal for what I offered to pay she asked 3-4 questions I answered she agreed but I had that funny feel about her and told myself watch every move she makes. I also take my 2 Wyze cameras and can watch on my phone in real time making it appear I'm using t or reading the phone messages and seen her take a roll up gum wrapper and empty it in my beer. Guess who drank the beer, she did, guess what else she did, any and everything I wanted and told her to do and would just say," si Papi si" . That dam camera save me from who knows what, she is a big girl nice tight holes.
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Taxis
[QUOTE=Nypher;2680482]Don't worry about being fleeced, if it's going to happen it's going to happen jajajaj.
Prices went up all around. I paid 25 K from airport to El Laguito. And from Centro to El Laguito at nights is 15 K even when using Uber it's only like a 2 K difference.
Girls went up too so if you plan to hunt for something new make sure to have a solid back up.[/QUOTE]Yes this taxi I pain in Jan was 5400 COP. Now it's like 20,400. A 400% increase what the hell.
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Space still smells like a bucket of vomit
So I thought it was just me but my chicas agreed and told me that's why its their last choice for work.
The moment you enter the stairway it hits your nose like a fist! Stong! I've been walking by random mornings and watching them scrub down the steps but nothing is getting that smell out. Then once inside the club the smell is still there even with them blasting the AC and hookah smoke you can still smell it. I popped in but I'm staying away for a while.
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CTG Report
Fresh back from a 5 day romp with 6 friends. Stayed in an Airbnb right across the street from the square. The square is back to normal with babes hanging out. Not as many as before but surely enough. Playa Hollywood was dead during the day. Only a handful of girls that were just average. If Cartagena gets a daytime bar location going, that will be killer. We went to Dulce Vita every night. Superstars inside this place. Started going to CTG in 2019 and prices in DV were 500 tops for all night. Now every babe was quoting $100 us for one hour and $250 US for all night. Its almost like they unionized. BBBJ was even harder to comeby but possible. I went with 350,000 CUP for an hour option mostly which use to work for me. The babes use to come, have some drinks for a while and then do the deed. Now, they were very mindful of time and were less interested in drinking and dancing with everyone. CTG is till a great time but in time the prices will make it not worth it. I had one pal who had a babe ask for $300 US for all night and she would not budge. And, he partied with the same babe 4 months ago for $200 US for all night. My Airbnb also went up $300 a night from the same time last year. I love CTG but I'm starting to look to other parts of Colombia that has clubs like Dulce Vita and Space for a better value. CTG is still a good time just be prepared to fork over more coin.
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Guy caught chick trying to drug him
So my main Dolce chick sends me a video of some Delirium looking gringo slapping up some chica out of nowhere along with pictures of the guy and the girl! I ask here WTF is this? She tells me the guy caught her trying to drug his beer and beat her up. I'm thinking this was Medellin, she said no, right here is CTG.
My other Dolce chica was with me and heard when I was playing the video then showed me the same video. She said it was her friend who was recording the video of the girl getting beat up as the girl tried to drug him to steal from him. She then warned me allot of girls are desperate and are stealing and I should be careful.
Protect yourselves out there mongers.
We have our network and they also have theirs as they are passing around that video to all the girls no to go with that guy.
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Chica friendly Airbnb or hotel recommendation
I'm looking for a chia friendly hotel or airbnb under $150 a night. I'd like to have a fairly nice place.
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Internet
[QUOTE=Nounce;2680911]It's just a way to explain the different observations people have. You don't have to be in a specific place to see it because you can observe it somewhere else.[/QUOTE]I think it more crazy guys on the internet paying silly money for "virtual relationships," or a few photos or web cams.
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Internet
[QUOTE=Nounce;2680911]It's just a way to explain the different observations people have. You don't have to be in a specific place to see it because you can observe it somewhere else.[/QUOTE]I think it more crazy guys on the internet paying silly money for "virtual relationships," or a few photos or web cams.
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[QUOTE=Sailor69;2682217]I'm looking for a chia friendly hotel or airbnb under $150 a night. I'd like to have a fairly nice place.[/QUOTE]Vague request.
What's your dates?
What area you want to be in? El Laguito? Boca Grande? Centro? Manga? San Diego?
Security or no Security?
I know many places but you need to book them way in advance because they are always booked.
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The video of the guy choking and hitting the girl while she appears to be unconscious didn't make sense to me of why he didn't just put the chica out of the apartment and the Dolce chicas didn't know much only that the video was posted on a girls Instagram. Went to the girls Instagram and recognized her as I wanted to take her last year passed once I saw all the tattoos and realized there wasn't much tits under the clothes she had on. So I figured the guy looks like a typical Delirium monger so let me ask my Delirium chica. Invited her over for lunch and beers, she already seen the video and fills me in.
From what she said, apparently the guy had hit another girl before but it was never reported it. This time he fucked up because if the girl was Venezuelan authorities wouldn't have cared, but the girl was Colombian and she reported it and filed a lawsuit which reached the Embassy. She said he's going to be banded from entering the country for 6 months or going forward (the translation was weird using the app). She then said allot of Colombians have seen the video and now feeling negative towards Black Americans. So jokingly I say maybe I should change my flight to tomorrow and she said I don't have to worry because the girls here know me and others know me even though I don't know them. She then explains to me that most of the girls I know live in the same barrios or are friends with the touts that sells the cabanas, chairs or get the food and drinks at the beaches and they take pictures and puts it on their Instagram.
She then goes on Instagram and show me pictures of me on Hollywood beach last year on one of the cabana guys instagram who I know but are not friends on Instagram. Then goes to the politica heroicaaa Instagram page and showed me minors being trafficked on Hollywood Beach while someone secretly records. [URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb-a_AuuWfV/.[/URL] Guys don't be stupid, this is the same dumb shit that was happening in Boca Chica in DR. Don't be that person.
It also had the story of the guy whose leg was messed up and it looks like my Dolce chica was right as it happened in Cholon and was from a boat propeller and not a shark bite in San Andres [URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb-a_AuuWfV/.[/URL].
It looks like all my chicas follow that instagram page and keep up to date with things from there and the more stories I read on there the more I'm starting to understand what the girls talk about with Centro being dangerous even though I never see the danger. Who am I to argue with a chica the safety of Centro when I only visit maybe 90 days total that's spread out over a whole year while they live there.
To close this out. This chica being beaten is one of the main reasons why I do not pass any of my chicas info onto other mongers as I do not know what type of monger I'm sending her way and do not want to get caught in the middle of anything when things go wrong.
If you're having a problem with a chica, put her out the apartment or let security handle it. Don't be stupid and get physical, as Colombia have street justice and the laws of your country does not protect you when in your in another country.
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1 week summed up
From that Wednesday night with the money throwers to the following Wednesday night I've just been laying low, avoiding Centro and sticking to Getsemani and El Laguito. My chicas know how I operate and understand when I come ill see them at least 3 times minimum over the course of my visit. On this trip I found allot of my chicas I contacted are now shifting to only wanting to spend a few days together consecutively, they are not interested in random days and I realized this as a few of them were flown out to Medelin, Santa Marta and San Andres for a few days by mongers. So what we have are mongers taking chicas out of CTG for days at a time with a price they cannot turn down.
I've decided to no longer shop at in the street or the clocktower and will avoid the clubs as well. My Tinder experience outweighs the club and street girls by far.
One night while walking outside the Clocktower and watching them set up the scaffolding for the laser show this little girl was walking around selling bracelets who spoke English. At first I didn't recognize her but then remembered she was the girl from last year when I was outside Delirium pissed off and tried to sell me a bracelet when I was in no mood for anyones shit. That little conversation with her outside the club actually put me in a better mood while I was waiting for my chica to come out Delirium but I still didn't buy a bracelet. However, this time I waved her over to me I told her I remembered her from last year and got a bracelet for my chica while talking to her for a bit catching up on current things since December. If you see Alondra walking around the pussy triangle buy a bracelet from her, she's cool as fuck to talk to and can give you info. Its a whole different conversation experience other than the constant annoying "what you looking for, girls? Dolce, Space, Delirium got girls" talk.
So walking around with my chica and were talking, she's asking me if I know of an American who opened a new club called "Imperio". I'm telling her I've never heard of it, googling on the phone and nothing is coming up. She's insisting the club is here in Centro. So I decide to lets just walk around and see what we see. 20 minutes of walking just looking at things and were passing by Alchemico, Monkey Bar, Taboo, looking at all the crowds and as soon as we reach space I happen to look across the street where Isis is and the sign is gone, it now says Imperio. Well looks like we found the new club but fuck that I'm not going in because its still Isis to me. We kept going and just left Centro over to Getsemani, I can't begin to describe of I love the food over there.
Since my chica told me next week is not a good week as things will be closing early some holiday or something, I decided to let my club chicas go get their weekend millionaire money in while I focus on the Tinder chicas who have normal jobs and just need extra money. So back to the apartment with my chica just talking and she's surprised I can hold a basic conversation without the need of the translator app. So I told her she can do the same in English if she practiced more. I know she used Duo Lingo so I had a bright idea, lets play a game. Over the course of a lesson every time she get one right I give her 10 K and I take a small shot of Aguardiente, every time she get one wrong she takes a small shot. She's in, and kicking my ass, 10 phrases in and I'm down 10 shots and she's up 100 K. She gets to the english phrase "excuse me" which she have to type in spanish and types "lo siento" and in my head I'm celebrating because finally its time for her to take a shot! Pressed the button and the shit accepts it as correct! WTF!? So now I'm telling her the app is cheating because "lo siento" translates to "I'm sorry". She says no excuse me can be "lo siento, discuple, perdon or como" and it all relates with what your trying to do from getting some ones attention, to apologizing, to asking someone to repeat what they just said. Who am I to argue why they have multiple different phrases to say the same thing? The app said she was right, I have to take a shot and hand over another 10 K. Fucking girl get a perfect lesson, who the hell gave me this idea. SMH. Luckily we were not playing with full shots because after shot #11 I was feeling it. Had a great night with her, she was supposed to just be with me for a polvo for 200 K, she ended up giving me another polvo in in he morning at no extra. Looks like she enjoyed it all jajaj.
So now I'm just saying my hasta leugos and will be out of here in a few days.
Things to be prepared for:
25 K from Airport to Centro, Getsemeni, Boca Grande or El Lagiuito and vice versa.
15 K at nights to go from one place to another, you can haggle down to 10 K but its a waste of breath.
Be prepared for Ubers to cancel your request if you're starting point is El laguito and going to Centro or Getsemani. The will re route you to a car all the way in Centro or Getsemani 15 minutes away instead of a current car in El Laguito 2 minutes away.
Always try to get stacks of 20 K bills, never let the Cambrio give to 100 K bills as you will be stuck with them except for restaurants or chicas. Taxis won't take them, vendors won't take them, hell they even have a hard time taking 50 K bills and always try to give you less change.
Chicas are now charging more and are killing it, my dolce chica showed me the stacks of Euros she made over the course of 3 days had in her bag before she went to change them out. Since SEA was closed and other places are requiring vaccine cards more mongers are coming to Latin America. I've heard many speaking languages sounding like they are trying to cough up something out of their throat so I know they're from the middle east somewhere.
The usual loud mouth Americans are there but they are still concentrated to the same spots Playa Hollywood Beach, Delirium, ClockTower, so easy to avoid.
Allot of the girls put on weight over the course of a few months from when I saw them back in December.
That's all for now, and remember to always have fun! Jajaaj.
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Palmetto Sunset in El Laguito
[QUOTE=ElMoreno92;2618627]If his location is correct (across from the beach near a shopping mall in Bocagrande), then it is definitely not the Palmetto Sunset in El Laguito (a total different neighborhood further south than Bocagrande). Plus I just stayed in the Palmetto Sunset and was running them in and out with no problems (they just needed to show ID to get a wrist band).[/QUOTE]There are visitor problems in this building which caused me to cut my trip short.
Something happened to my Airbnb and I ended up here at a last minute resort because all the houses were booked. There were many available Airbnb apartments in this building and now I know why.
Yes visitors are allowed but they must have a physical Cedula or passport, photos of ID are not accepted like in other buildings.
Yes visitors are allowed but they are only allowed in the building starting from 10 am and they must leave at 9:30 pm or starting at 12 am and they must leave at 5 am. Security will constantly come and buzz your doorbell and bother you until the visitor leaves. Visitors cannot dawn on the property.
The walls are super hollow, any noise in the apartment is echoed out into the hallway and vice versa. I kept hearing the elevator chime from my bed that's how bad it was.
The windows are only single pane windows so all that car honking at all hours, sonic noises from the bats at night, people yelling on the street and my personal favourite, that stupid disco party bus that keep circling the lake sounds like it is right in the apartment with you.
The only thing good about this building is that guests do not have to go to the lobby to meet their visitors. The visitor only needs to know the apartment number and security will ring the intercom in the apartment to get the OK to let the visitor up after checking in with a valid ID.
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CheckMIG and departure from CTG
I don't know how many times I've said that but CheckMIG is needed to leave CTG.
It took 3 hours to get through Migracion because many people did not have their shit together.
When entering the airport, they will only ask for passport and boarding pass or reservation. They no longer ask to sign for COVID attest waiver or CheckMIG.
For JetBlue, when doing bag drop they only asked for passport and negative COVID test. They did not ask for Check MIG.
When going through Passport control they only asked for passport and boarding pass.
This is where the shitshow happened.
When people reached Migracion and didn't have CheckMIG filled out they were sent back outside Passport Control to complete it then had to stand back on the line. This caused the line to become way backed up because 3 out of 5 people were oblivious to the fact that they had to fill it out to leave CTG. This is despite they had to fill it out to get into Colombia and allot of them were on the same damn flight as me and I know for a fact JetBlue bug the shit out of you with their emails days before the flight reminding travelers that they need to fill out the CheckMIG.
Have your CheckMIG filled out before reaching the airport. Don't be that person standing in line saying that they didn't know.
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Group of girls accused stealing in CTG
Yesterday morning one of my girls sent me this image and told me to be careful as there were a group of girls that are usually in Delirium stealing from Gringos. Now I didn't pay it any mind at first because 1, I'm not a Delirium monger. 2, I was pissed off at me Airbnb situation and packing to get the hell out of there and 3, I was no longer picking up any new girls and just chilling with the ones I already knew.
So fast forward to when I finally looked at the photo and I instantly recognize 3 of the girls. The top left is Maria, the same chica that posted the video of the monger beating the girl and the same chica I passed on because she had way too many tattoos and little to no titties. The one right of her is Dayra or something like that, I've spoken to her on Tinder but passed because she was too big and had too many tattoos. The one in the bottom middle I believe her name is Dana I've spoken to her on Tinder as well but passed as she wanted too much money for basic services.
So I start talking to my Delirium chica and she tells me its been happening for a while but the gringos weren't saying much until now someone spoke up about it.
So let me leave this here:
When shit like this happens I know its a difficult crossroad of "do I tell others and warn them so it won't happen to them or to I keep it to myself so I won't look stupid because I got taken advantage of or gave papaya. " Let people know so they won't fall into the same bullshit because it doesn't matter how much mongering we have under our belts, anyone can get got the more we dive into this world. Its not a matter of if, its a matter of when.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2683330]She gets to the english phrase "excuse me" which she have to type in spanish and types "lo siento" and in my head I'm celebrating because finally its time for her to take a shot! Pressed the button and the shit accepts it as correct! WTF!? So now I'm telling her the app is cheating because "lo siento" translates to "I'm sorry". She says no excuse me can be "lo siento, discuple, perdon or como" and it all relates with what your trying to do from getting some ones attention, to apologizing, to asking someone to repeat what they just said. Who am I to argue why they have multiple different phrases to say the same thing? [/QUOTE]"Permiso" as well. Remember if you bump into someone you say in English excuse me or I'm sorry or pardon me or my bad. They all mean the same thing when used this way right?
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I'm slowly learning
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2684570]"Permiso" as well. Remember if you bump into someone you say in English excuse me or I'm sorry or pardon me or my bad. They all mean the same thing when used this way right?[/QUOTE]They all mean the same but it just one phrase with a different pronunciation. Kind of odd I never really thought about it. Similar to when I first started learning Spanish and I asked a chica why does everything have a gender like table, desk, chair, phone, etc and they said they never really thought about it jajaja.
The more I talk to the chicas the more I'm learning which words I can use in what instances. I had another instance of this word play when we were in El Cabildo Gastromar in Getsemani, I highly recommend this place, the food is wonderful and not overpriced. Order 2 plates each and had about 5 drinks all under $50.
So with this instance I asked my chica "donde esta la camarera", I was so hungry that day. She starts laughing and says "no camarera, ella es la mesera". The way I learned camarero translates to waiter but she tells me camarero is for a hotel and mesero is for a restaurant. It made a good conversation over lunch.
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Look at the words
[QUOTE=Nypher;2684838]They all mean the same but it just one phrase with a different pronunciation. Kind of odd I never really thought about it. Similar to when I first started learning Spanish and I asked a chica why does everything have a gender like table, desk, chair, phone, etc and they said they never really thought about it jajaja.
The more I talk to the chicas the more I'm learning which words I can use in what instances. I had another instance of this word play when we were in El Cabildo Gastromar in Getsemani, I highly recommend this place, the food is wonderful and not overpriced. Order 2 plates each and had about 5 drinks all under $50.
So with this instance I asked my chica "donde esta la camarera", I was so hungry that day. She starts laughing and says "no camarera, ella es la mesera". The way I learned camarero translates to waiter but she tells me camarero is for a hotel and mesero is for a restaurant. It made a good conversation over lunch.[/QUOTE]"The way I learned camarero translates to waiter but she tells me camarero is for a hotel and mesero is for a restaurant."
Look at the two words. "Camarero" contains the word "cama" (bed in Spanish). "Mesero"" contains part of the word "mesa" (table in Spanish).
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Condo
[QUOTE=Nypher;2682320]Vague request.
What's your dates?
What area you want to be in? El Laguito? Boca Grande? Centro? Manga? San Diego?
Security or no Security?
I know many places but you need to book them way in advance because they are always booked.[/QUOTE]I rented a good ocean view condo in Boca Grande for 5 nights for under $100 a night on Airbnb. Security was good, but not excessive. There seemed to be a lot of short term renters and empty condos. The beaches were empty.
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Seeking in Cartagena
I primarily use Seeking. It did not work so well in Cartagena. I had planned to take a Medellin girl with me, but her mother came to visit just as we were supposed to leave. Several girls supposedly in Cartagena we're actually in Barranquilla, Santa Marta, or Medellin. Although some of the girls pleaded poverty, the asks were mostly quite high $300 to $500. No way that I would pay that. The Cruiseship and crazy gringos throwing too much money around appear to have ruined Cartagena. No girl the first night. The next night I found a cute 21 year old college girl new to Seeking (I usually look for newer girls) for 300,000 Cop, all night. She was a lot of fun and I kept her three nights. She claimed I was her first older man. After telling a dozen overpriced Seeking girls that I was taking my money and my penis back to Medellin, I suddenly had four eager to meet girls for 300 to 400 mil Cop. I picked one. Of course, she did not show up. I contacted another and she came right over, but for 500 mil. She was attractive, but a disappointing performer. A few other thoughts about Cartagena: Too many street vendors, touts, and beggars; expensive unmetered taxis, too much gringo pricing; lots of good food at reasonable prices; and beaches are not anything special.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2682186]
We have our network and they also have theirs as they are passing around that video to all the girls no to go with that guy.[/QUOTE]Someone sent me this pic. Apparently, a lot of chicas are discussing what happened.
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[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2685839]Someone sent me this pic. Apparently, a lot of chicas are discussing what happened.[/QUOTE]So according to her it is not the Black dudes (aka Sosua crowd) that have prices jacked up because they always want to pay less.
Her story seems like bs. A guy fucks a chick then beats her up because he does not want to pay her? So never mind the threat of going to jail for not paying someone, but beat them up as well so you are sure to go to jail? Nah son. I would hope the guy has a little more sense than that. I am going to believe the first story about catching her stealing. Then he probably blacked out and went beserk.
Something like that happened to me before. In Thailand a chick Bruce Lee kicked my TV. I threw her out naked and called my cousin who lived in the same building to go get security because she was kicking my door. We were outside because she wanted to call the police but never did. When she left my cousin said why does she have red marks on her neck. I thought about it and said after she kicked the TV I threw her on the bed and was choking the shit out of her before I threw her out. I honestly did not remember doing it at first.
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[QUOTE=Sailor69;2685730]I primarily use Seeking. It did not work so well in Cartagena. I had planned to take a Medellin girl with me, but her mother came to visit just as we were supposed to leave. Several girls supposedly in Cartagena we're actually in Barranquilla, Santa Marta, or Medellin. [/QUOTE]It is a much better strategy to take seeking women from Medellin or especially Bogota to Cartagena or some sunny spot. Cartagena is like Miami or NYC and the prices will always be higher. To be fair though, the rents in Cartagena and other living costs are higher too.
The seeking women I met in Barranquilla were great, but there were not that many of them. The one seeking woman I met in Cartagena was a beauty queen, and she was hot but cocky as shit. Any amount was not enough for her.
I actually think the women in Bogota are nicer than Medellin and the women there are all looking to get out of the cold and dark of Bogota. I cannot recall any of them not thrilled with the offer of a trip to a place like San Andreas, Santa Marta, or Cartagena, and the cool part is the plane tickets in Colombia, even last minute ones, are dirt cheap. Hope this helps.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2685856]So according to her it is not the Black dudes (aka Sosua crowd) that have prices jacked up because they always want to pay less.
[/QUOTE]I'm not justifying her story, but I think both could be true. Prices could be increasing because the number of mongers has increased (including the shift of Sosua mongers to CTG) and at the same time some dudes are trying to haggle, pay the least amount possible or less than the others are paying.
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[QUOTE=Sailor69;2685730]I primarily use Seeking. It did not work so well in Cartagena. I had planned to take a Medellin girl with me, but her mother came to visit just as we were supposed to leave. Several girls supposedly in Cartagena we're actually in Barranquilla, Santa Marta, or Medellin. Although some of the girls pleaded poverty, the asks were mostly quite high $300 to $500. No way that I would pay that. The Cruiseship and crazy gringos throwing too much money around appear to have ruined Cartagena. No girl the first night. The next night I found a cute 21 year old college girl new to Seeking (I usually look for newer girls) for 300,000 Cop, all night. She was a lot of fun and I kept her three nights. She claimed I was her first older man. After telling a dozen overpriced Seeking girls that I was taking my money and my penis back to Medellin, I suddenly had four eager to meet girls for 300 to 400 mil Cop. I picked one. Of course, she did not show up. I contacted another and she came right over, but for 500 mil. She was attractive, but a disappointing performer. A few other thoughts about Cartagena: Too many street vendors, touts, and beggars; expensive unmetered taxis, too much gringo pricing; lots of good food at reasonable prices; and beaches are not anything special.[/QUOTE]Can you give me the contact info of the college girl? You can pm me. Going to Cartagena soon. Or just send me her profile in seeking.
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I've been reading and watching some videos lately claiming after getting off the plane it took 1-2 hours to go through!? On a Wednesday or Thursday even.
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Seeking college Girl
[QUOTE=Sammon;2685936]Can you give me the contact info of the college girl? You can pm me. Going to Cartagena soon. Or just send me her profile in seeking.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I am keeping her to myself.
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I agree on taking girls to the beach.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2685889]It is a much better strategy to take seeking women from Medellin or especially Bogota to Cartagena or some sunny spot. Cartagena is like Miami or NYC and the prices will always be higher. To be fair though, the rents in Cartagena and other living costs are higher too.
The seeking women I met in Barranquilla were great, but there were not that many of them. The one seeking woman I met in Cartagena was a beauty queen, and she was hot but cocky as shit. Any amount was not enough for her.
I actually think the women in Bogota are nicer than Medellin and the women there are all looking to get out of the cold and dark of Bogota. I cannot recall any of them not thrilled with the offer of a trip to a place like San Andreas, Santa Marta, or Cartagena, and the cool part is the plane tickets in Colombia, even last minute ones, are dirt cheap. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]I liked Santa Marta a lot better than Cartagena. Not enough Seeking girls in Santa Marta; lots of now shows.
No Seeking girls in San Andres.
I have not explored Bogota yet. I've been a bit afraid of it.
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I had the same problem
[QUOTE=Rzrfl69;2685984]I've been reading and watching some videos lately claiming after getting off the plane it took 1-2 hours to go through!? On a Wednesday or Thursday even.[/QUOTE]I had the same problem coming in on a Sunday and leaving on a Sunday.
Most of the problems were due to having a Sprit plane landing in front of my plane and most of them did not have their documents ready. They didn't know the address or phone number of the place they were staying and took forever to search through their phone to get the info. This was mostly these all women travel groups doing this on arrival, men were breezing through with ease.
On the way out it was even more delay because many people didn't have CheckMiG filled out and when they approached the Migracion booth they turned them around to go back out and complete it. Another downside was there was only 3 of the 10 booths open to handle both foreigners and nationals.
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[QUOTE=Sailor69;2685730]I primarily use Seeking. It did not work so well in Cartagena. I had planned to take a Medellin girl with me, but her mother came to visit just as we were supposed to leave. Several girls supposedly in Cartagena we're actually in Barranquilla, Santa Marta, or Medellin. Although some of the girls pleaded poverty, the asks were mostly quite high $300 to $500. No way that I would pay that. The Cruiseship and crazy gringos throwing too much money around appear to have ruined Cartagena. No girl the first night. The next night I found a cute 21 year old college girl new to Seeking (I usually look for newer girls) for 300,000 Cop, all night. She was a lot of fun and I kept her three nights. She claimed I was her first older man. After telling a dozen overpriced Seeking girls that I was taking my money and my penis back to Medellin, I suddenly had four eager to meet girls for 300 to 400 mil Cop. I picked one. Of course, she did not show up. I contacted another and she came right over, but for 500 mil. She was attractive, but a disappointing performer. A few other thoughts about Cartagena: Too many street vendors, touts, and beggars; expensive unmetered taxis, too much gringo pricing; lots of good food at reasonable prices; and beaches are not anything special.[/QUOTE]Wait until you try to get with that same girl again. I had something similar where I met a girl in Dolce on her first night working and I got her for 500 K all night no complains. I took her for 4 consecutive nights at 500 K no problems and she was great. 4 months later I came back and reached out to her and she wanted 800 K a night. When I asked her what changed she said she now knows her worth because she's been talking to the other Dolce girls. The longer these girls work the more they talk to each other and set a minimum price.
When I was just there a too many of my chicas were flown out by mongers to other areas. 3 of my chicas had mongers fly them into Medellin for the weekend which made no sense to me because Medellin is supposed to be cheaper so why fly a Cartagena chica there, the reverse would make more sense.
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[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2685839]Someone sent me this pic. Apparently, a lot of chicas are discussing what happened.[/QUOTE]They are all talking about it and one of my chicas said allot of Colombians seen the video and are not to happy with Black Americans because of it. I told her they can not judge all of us because one black guy does something stupid the same way we don't judge all Colombianas when when one of the girls drugs and robs us. The response I got was "claro, entiendo, claro" so she gets it.
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[QUOTE=Sailor69;2685724]I rented a good ocean view condo in Boca Grande for 5 nights for under $100 a night on Airbnb. Security was good, but not excessive. There seemed to be a lot of short term renters and empty condos. The beaches were empty.[/QUOTE]At 6 pm the cops come and kicks everyone off the beaches. Beach days are usually Sundays and you want to get there around noon, that's where you can shop all day long. Kiosk #4 is where you want to be but its closer to where Boca Grande Meets El Laguito.
When I stayed at the Pamelleto Sunset (don't ever do this, don't be me, don't stay here) I've woken up at 10 am and can see people at Playa Hollywood in the water playing.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2686008]They are all talking about it and one of my chicas said allot of Colombians seen the video and are not to happy with Black Americans because of it. I told her they can not judge all of us because one black guy does something stupid the same way we don't judge all Colombianas when when one of the girls drugs and robs us. The response I got was "claro, entiendo, claro" so she gets it.[/QUOTE]IMO, Colombians folks, especially in tourists areas, and especially working girls, are on the paper chase and won't turn down money so I never saw that aspect as a real issue in the mongering game.
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A total joke
[QUOTE=Nypher;2685989]I had the same problem coming in on a Sunday and leaving on a Sunday.
Most of the problems were due to having a Sprit plane landing in front of my plane and most of them did not have their documents ready. They didn't know the address or phone number of the place they were staying and took forever to search through their phone to get the info. This was mostly these all women travel groups doing this on arrival, men were breezing through with ease.
On the way out it was even more delay because many people didn't have CheckMiG filled out and when they approached the Migracion booth they turned them around to go back out and complete it. Another downside was there was only 3 of the 10 booths open to handle both foreigners and nationals.[/QUOTE]The CheckMiG form is one of the main things that screw things up coming into Colombia. It is not hard to send it to them on the internet but as you said a lot of idiots don't do their homework and cause delays. Also I don't understand why these idiots don't have their hotel info on hand as they will need it as they get into a taxi. One more rant most likely these are the ones who put their carry on bag side ways instead of straight in the bin. OK no mas.
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[QUOTE=JohnGault;2686174]The CheckMiG form is one of the main things that screw things up coming into Colombia. It is not hard to send it to them on the internet but as you said a lot of idiots don't do their homework and cause delays. Also I don't understand why these idiots don't have their hotel info on hand as they will need it as they get into a taxi. One more rant most likely these are the ones who put their carry on bag side ways instead of straight in the bin. OK no mas.[/QUOTE]Coming to Colombia from Orlando is often a nightmare because the Spirit folks allow people to get in the bag drop line without Checkmig and when they get to the counter also allow them and even sometimes help them fill it out at the counter while others that came prepared have to wait it out in line until they finish. This wasted time is a nightmare because after finally dropping off your bags, you might have to wait in another line for 45 minutes to get through security and then have to catch a train before you can get to your gate so any wasted time can be stressful.
Let me add that this isn't only a Checkmig issue. Sometimes, the Colombia folks are in the same line with people going to Punta Cana or some other destination that requires forms to be filled out and the same thing happens. Spirit should send out better instructions that inform people that certain things need to be done before even coming to the airport in clear and direct instructions, not links. Also, have a worker that makes sure only people with all their ducks in a row can get in line.
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[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2686207]Coming to Colombia from Orlando is often a nightmare because the Spirit folks allow people to get in the bag drop line without Checkmig and when they get to the counter also allow them and even sometimes help them fill it out at the counter while others that came prepared have to wait it out in line until they finish. This wasted time is a nightmare because after finally dropping off your bags, you might have to wait in another line for 45 minutes to get through security and then have to catch a train before you can get to your gate so any wasted time can be stressful.
Let me add that this isn't only a Checkmig issue. Sometimes, the Colombia folks are in the same line with people going to Punta Cana or some other destination that requires forms to be filled out and the same thing happens. Spirit should send out better instructions that inform people that certain things need to be done before even coming to the airport in clear and direct instructions, not links. Also, have a worker that makes sure only people with all their ducks in a row can get in line.[/QUOTE]At JFK JetBlue will not let anyone drop their bag without showing them the CheckMIGnis filled out. If it isn't they will tell you leave the line and fill it out while they attend to the next person. Then once getting to the gate they force everyone to get a printed boarding pass who don't have one (utterly useless and time wasting because you have to stand on line again) then they check if CheckMIG is filled out and put a star or smiley face on the boarding pass. This is where the ones who only travel via carry on or the ones who get basic Blue seats that does not allow them to bring a carry on get blindsided and claim they don't know they had to fill out the form which holds up everyone else whose trying to get a printed pass for a stupid smiley face.
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[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2686207]Also, have a worker that makes sure only people with all their ducks in a row can get in line.[/QUOTE]Whenever I am in a line I always think there should be one line for people that have their shit together and another line for people that do not know what the fuck they are doing.
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[QUOTE=Rzrfl69;2685984]I've been reading and watching some videos lately claiming after getting off the plane it took 1-2 hours to go through!? On a Wednesday or Thursday even.[/QUOTE]Yup this happened to me back in September. I thought it was because of Covid restrictions. I had to wait over an hour in the line.
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Hahaha. Have your shit together?? This line here. Would be amazing.
Yes the airlines should send out notification automatically that you need to complete these forms before even coming to the airport!
I only out when it started because I was already researching travel requirements. Which in this day and age you should.
I was there Halloween weekend. Went right through immigration except yeah one or two people having no idea of address.
I have everything ready in hand while I'm in line. Where you staying. Here. How long. Blah blah. Ok bye.
Pretty excited for this next trip. 4 weeks to go.
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Wrong section buddy.
Whatever happened to the casa that was a bit out of town? I went there once. Wow was something I hadn't been to before. Taxi pulled up. Few people standing outside. Little like quickie mart across the street on the corner. Walk in. Guy behind like metal caged wall taking the $. Had menu for the beers I think. Had trouble breaking like 50 or something hahahah. Sit at a little plastic table. Other guys together. All locals. Girls sitting in a row on a bench. Signaled to one and she came over. Quick talk. Went to her little room. Was a mattress on floor. Her suitcase. A washroom between her and another similar room. Wam bam. Go back out and have more beers like. I thing happened. Casa Maria or something.
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Lucky Me
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2686174]The CheckMiG form is one of the main things that screw things up coming into Colombia. It is not hard to send it to them on the internet but as you said a lot of idiots don't do their homework and cause delays. Also I don't understand why these idiots don't have their hotel info on hand as they will need it as they get into a taxi. One more rant most likely these are the ones who put their carry on bag side ways instead of straight in the bin. OK no mas.[/QUOTE]I come to Colombia, every month and have never seen this issue so I guess I'm just lucky. Now just last summer on my flight to Colombia I was stopped from even getting the boarding pass from the Kiosk. I remember it required me to see a Rep with American Air lines at the Kiosk machine and not the counter. She ask to see my Check-Mig told her my job hadn't let me know I needed this form, she gave me the web-site told me everything I need and it took under 10 min. To fill it out and get the approval call her over again she seen the email and cleared the Kiosk to issue me a boarding pass so the next month I had the form ready and was never ask by anyone to see it until I arrival in CTG. I guess I'm lucky and only flew American Airlines going but leaving I have notice they ask for the Check-Mig before you enter the airport and at the counter along with your neg. Covid test to get your boarding pass either one they don't have the counter people send them to fill out the Mig or go get a test. On my way again in 2 weeks for a little work and lots of fun.
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[QUOTE=KcTalent;2686673]I come to Colombia, every month and have never seen this issue so I guess I'm just lucky. [/QUOTE]Is American still using Verifly? Is so, doesn't it ask for Checkmig?
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[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2686856]Is American still using Verifly? Is so, doesn't it ask for Checkmig?[/QUOTE]I am going to Cartagena next month on American. They sent me a e mail to upload VeriFLY. I believe checkmig is separate. VeriFLY can only be completed 10 days before flight, so I do not know what is in there.
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Don't travel internationally with guns jajaja
A woman was caught trying to travel through Cartagena with a 9 mm and 2 clips. JAJAJA.
Amazing how she made it out of the US on an international flight with the gun, then into Cartagena with the firearm in her luggage when in order to leave the airport you must put your bags through the X-ray machine. Then she partied it up in CTG for a week and wasn't caught until she was trying to leave Cartagena for Bogota. Everyone was asleep at the scanners that day.
[URL]https://news.euro-24.com/news/203090.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.infobae.com/en/2022/04/20/american-tourist-arrested-in-cartagena-with-a-9-mm-gun-in-his-suitcase/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/CcjEKvOOBJb/[/URL]
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It was normal to carry it everywhere 🙄128580;. I kinda do believe this one was just a moron.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2688267]A woman was caught trying to travel through Cartagena with a 9 mm and 2 clips. JAJAJA.
Amazing how she made it out of the US on an international flight with the gun, then into Cartagena with the firearm in her luggage when in order to leave the airport you must put your bags through the X-ray machine. Then she partied it up in CTG for a week and wasn't caught until she was trying to leave Cartagena for Bogota. Everyone was asleep at the scanners that day.
[URL]https://news.euro-24.com/news/203090.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.infobae.com/en/2022/04/20/american-tourist-arrested-in-cartagena-with-a-9-mm-gun-in-his-suitcase/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/CcjEKvOOBJb/[/URL][/QUOTE]Domestically in USA you can carry unloaded guns in checked baggage. Not sure international.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;2688425]Domestically in USA you can carry unloaded guns in checked baggage.[/QUOTE]Yes, but they have to be declared and given special care. You can not just put it inside of your bag and not tell anyone. And even then, you can not bring ammunition with it the same as you can not bring fireworks.
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Yeah just stupidity. Hope our government doesn't spend millions getting her released.
On another note, tinder prospecting has been feeling slow. # of girls on there doesn't seem to be as high as usual. And very few seem to be active on it. Match and then get no responses.
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Tinder differs based on preferences
[QUOTE=Rzrfl69;2688464]Yeah just stupidity. Hope our government doesn't spend millions getting her released.
On another note, tinder prospecting has been feeling slow. # of girls on there doesn't seem to be as high as usual. And very few seem to be active on it. Match and then get no responses.[/QUOTE]On tinder a persons results can be great or terrible all based on their preferences and when the swiping happens.
For example my settings are 18-22, 10 mile radius and I only swipe at night or anytime on Sundays. At night many of the girls will be close to or in Centro on Sundays many will be at the beach. By me selecting 18-22 it eliminates a huge pool of women but since I already have a good lineup I don't mind. Sometimes it will show no chicas and I have to adjust the dealbreaker up to 25 but then comes the fat chicas, chicas that look worn out, tatted up hood looking chicas, transgenders and gays popping up as chicas. The silent after matching is one thing I never understood especially when they say hola first and I respond immediately.
If your setting aren't already, I would suggest setting your location at the clocktower, 20 miles and set 18 - 30 and see what comes your way as just about everything will even hombres con tetas jajaja.
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I've used tinder extensively while there. As I said I am seeing much lower numbers than usual. I put out to a 40 mile radius as many travel to ctg for the weekends for some work.
Was also talking tk a girl I've seen there for years that lives in Medellin. She said she's no longer going to be working in ctg. She will work in Medellin or has also been traveling to Mexico playa Carmen for work.
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Casa Rosario. That was the spot! Anyone remember that or has been to? Still around?? Not sure I'the visit again though hahahaha.
I really can't wait. About 3 more weeks. Pre prospecting hasn't been too successful hahaha. And my go to girl doesn't seem to be wanting to go My last trip might have been my best yet. This trip so far, we will see. Maybe it gives me the freedom to really just act on the fly so to speak.
Regardless I know I will enjoy myself.
Funny thinking back to my first trip. Early 20's. Really no idea of this world. Was there for a work convention with some middle aged guys. Never really realized 90% of the girls we were partying with were working. Knew some were. But not that many!
Funny how we fine tune our trips. What we know. Like. Etc. I love change but.
I'm reluctant to travel somewhere else for this kind of lifestyle. I have been to Thailand once. Was there for 3 weeks, barely dove into this part of it, but from what I saw, I feel it's easy to get lost! I want to go back some time!
I plan on trying some new things in ctg this time like massage parlors. Hopefully walk in. Get a massage and a tug. Walk back out on the busy street happy and relaxed.
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Casa Rosario
It's still there. I visited a couple months ago, only five girls working during the day when I went. It used to be popular with the cruise ship crowd. Prices were 250 k probably negotiable with rooms on site.
[QUOTE=Rzrfl69;2689289]Casa Rosario. That was the spot! Anyone remember that or has been to? Still around?? Not sure I'the visit again though hahahaha.
I really can't wait. About 3 more weeks. Pre prospecting hasn't been too successful hahaha. And my go to girl doesn't seem to be wanting to go My last trip might have been my best yet. This trip so far, we will see. Maybe it gives me the freedom to really just act on the fly so to speak.
Regardless I know I will enjoy myself.
Funny thinking back to my first trip. Early 20's. Really no idea of this world. Was there for a work convention with some middle aged guys. Never really realized 90% of the girls we were partying with were working. Knew some were. But not that many!
Funny how we fine tune our trips. What we know. Like. Etc. I love change but.
I'm reluctant to travel somewhere else for this kind of lifestyle. I have been to Thailand once. Was there for 3 weeks, barely dove into this part of it, but from what I saw, I feel it's easy to get lost! I want to go back some time!
I plan on trying some new things in ctg this time like massage parlors. Hopefully walk in. Get a massage and a tug. Walk back out on the busy street happy and relaxed.[/QUOTE]
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What's the location again? Is it on anyones map. Haven't been in 5+ years.
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Found this.
Might try it. Not sure how ballsy I'll be feeling. Was a sketchy place. Especially solo.
Also my last trip, and I've read some talk about getting into Dolce Vita. Any idea what's up? I'm walking up solo. Well dressed and clean, get turned away. It was Halloween weekend. But I imagine I'the be an ideal customer to have at the bar there. Will see what's up this trip, because they do have the flavors there I enjoy 😉.
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[QUOTE=Rzrfl69;2690074]Found this.
Might try it. Not sure how ballsy I'll be feeling. Was a sketchy place. Especially solo.
Also my last trip, and I've read some talk about getting into Dolce Vita. Any idea what's up? I'm walking up solo. Well dressed and clean, get turned away. It was Halloween weekend. But I imagine I'the be an ideal customer to have at the bar there. Will see what's up this trip, because they do have the flavors there I enjoy 😉.[/QUOTE]Dolce Vita is a hit and a miss I would say to get there before 9:30, after 10 it will get packed. Whenever I go there they always force me to get a table, doesn't matter if I'm with friends, if I'm solo, or if I'm with a girl. Most of the times after they tell me I can only come in if I get a table, I just text my chica whose already inside to come out and once she comes out and meet me and walk off with her. Its BS, stop trying to make me buy tables especially when they only want me to buy big bottles when I already brought the same bottles from Exito for a fraction of the price. Other times I've been there with friends and they said they just gave the bouncer 10 mil and they got in. Its also funny because I haven't gotten a wrist band for Dolce in my last 4 trips but I see others in there with the bands on so I don't know how they decide who get bands and who don't.
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[QUOTE=Rzrfl69;2690074]Found this.
Might try it. Not sure how ballsy I'll be feeling. Was a sketchy place. Especially solo.
Also my last trip, and I've read some talk about getting into Dolce Vita. Any idea what's up? I'm walking up solo. Well dressed and clean, get turned away. It was Halloween weekend. But I imagine I'the be an ideal customer to have at the bar there. Will see what's up this trip, because they do have the flavors there I enjoy 😉.[/QUOTE]People had trouble getting into Dolce? Usually I get waved in there just passing by. I guess you have to look sufficiently gringo because that place is set up for foreigners.
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It might have been that it was Halloween weekend and yeah they wanted only guys getting tables. I haven't had that issue in past years but did read here on the forum from other members as well they were getting told it's full early. For me I like to shop, so I like to go in and see what's available and choose what I want.
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Just ask a taxi. I tried to look up the exact location from a photo I took on my phone and it shows it's on Transversal 24 near the intersection of Diagonal 25. It's in a residential area and no signs just a White House with pink bricks around the entrance.
[QUOTE=Rzrfl69;2689489]What's the location again? Is it on anyones map. Haven't been in 5+ years.[/QUOTE].
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Cartagena Trip. Summary and tips
First of all, I would like to thank the members of this forum for providing some useful information that helped me roam around Cartagena with friends. I have read through many posts and the information was very useful.
So after reading the forum posts for over a month straight, I was ready for my Cartagena adventure with my amigos. I actually was so excited, I could not sleep the night before my departure.
So we get to CTG airport and it was packed with people, waiting in the line to clear immigration. It took about 2.5 hours as there was a flight landed before ours and there was one that arrived after ours. Very slow immigration but was worth every minute because of so much this city has to offer.
After finishing immigration, got a taxi for 20,000 Colombian pesos (you say 20 mil pesos) to our rented place in old city near all bars and restaurants. We check into our place and get booze and snacks from local grocery store Exito, which was around walking distance. We pre drink at our place and head out to a bar. By the time we finish our drinks and eat, it was around 9 and we head out to Alquimico, which has a roof top bar and great atmosphere and hiphop music playing. We met these beautiful girls who were visiting from Europe, did some dancing and they agreed to come to our place for after party. We ended up smashing them doing 4 some with my colleague. It was my first time but after that there was no shame and it set the tone for rest of the trip of what's coming. We ended the night and girls ended up staying with us till the morning.
Our initial plan for 2nd day was to go on a boat to the islands but had to change it due to personal reasons. So we go about the town and get good meal, head over to playa Hollywood in the noon and rented cabana for 20 pesos. Then negotiated beer price to 6 pesos each with the guy there bringing beer in a cooler with ice. Our bill was like 120 k with everything so keep in mind if you ever go to Hollywood beach. BTW, you will be stormed by vendors at the beach so try to avoid as much you can. So we get our beers and were looking around to find chicas. There were few we saw and picked out the ones we like and they come sit with us. We negotiated 450 k for 3 hours and agreed that our time will start when we get to our place. Girl I got was hot, 21 years, I would rate her 9, Colombian. She gave me a great massage for an hour and then smashed for another hour. Gave me BBBJ and of course covered sex. I was done with her early in 2 hours but gave her agreed amount with tip and she left happily. My friend was not done with his so I just went to pool and relax.
Later on we go out to the dolce after 9 pm. Saw very hot ones, mostly 9's and 10's ratings. Got a table with drinks by dj booth and it started getting packed. I must have tried negotiating with at least 20 girls but they would not budge. Ended up with a cute Venezuelan 27 years. Agreed for 400 k for 3 hours. My amigos pick up theirs but with a little higher amount. We all head out to our place. The girls start music and start dancing with us. They brought their own favors so they kept doing that ll night. Offered me but I declined. Then we head into our pool. We chill in the pool kissing and grinding. Then head over to our room. My friend decides to join and repeat like what we did previous night. The girls agree and we had another 4 some. We swap girls and my friend is done with for the night but I am still going strong. I went for 45 minutes more and I was done. It was a good night and the girls call their taxi and head their home around 4.
Our last night in town. We wake up in the afternoon, get ready and head out to eat. Previous couple days, I got so many numbers of chicas whom I found cute. I end up calling one of the cute one, about 9 rating, to my place, I offer her 250 k for 2 hours as 1 hour massage and 1 hour of sex. Fir she declined and then agrees. She comes over while my friends head over to the beach. I get a good deep tissue massage, it gets very hot and she cranks up the AC. After massage, another great session of smashing. BBBJ and then covered sex. She was great and treat me like a king. She leaves after we are done and gave her a tip as well. Told her I would call her when I come back in a year again (yes I live this place so much I was already planning another trip).
We were planning to not go to any bar as we had so many drinks left over. We get our drinks at our place and around 8 we head out to clock tower. There were few chicas there once we got there but it started to fill up very quickly. I got a good skinny 23 year old chica, agreed for 450 k and we head to our place, my amigo has number for his chica and he calls her over. Again same routine, dance, pool, and then smash. We had a great session again with lovely chicas.
Overall a great time I had here, memorable one, and many thanks goes to this forum. I just wanted give something back and share my experience and hope this info helps anyone who is planning a trip there.
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Makes me want to move up my next trip jaja
[QUOTE=Hellooh;2691731]First of all, I would like to thank the members of this forum for providing some useful information that helped me roam around Cartagena with friends. I have read through many posts and the information was very useful.
So after reading the forum posts for over a month straight, I was ready for my Cartagena adventure with my amigos. I actually was so excited, I could not sleep the night before my departure.[/QUOTE]Looks like you had a blast and ended it with the outlook of returning even before you boarded the plane to leave jajaaj. Those the good trips we all hope to have when we land. No drama, no fuss, just fun in the sun jajaja.
That plane landing in front of your plane can be frustrating! This is why I usually take the first available flight and sometimes I get lucky and first but sometimes I land second and its a long wait.
My advice to you, from years of doing Latin America, forget about her WhatApp number. Get her Instagram name. These girls are notorious for loosing their phones or changing their numbers every 3 months. Now the funny thing is that many of these girls are running around with iPhones but they never have iCloud on or back up the Whatsapp contacts. So when the phone gets lost, damaged or stolen they have to get a new one with a new number and loose all their contacts. But to be honest a year from now, if you do return, high chance you will find something new that excites you just a much and you will forget about her. If she's still talking to you after you left CTG start counting the days until she asks you to send money because of an emergency. They can smell when a gringo is new and will try it, I'm not going to lie, I do send a little maybe twice a year per chica (birthday / Christmas) but these are girls I've know for years who hardly charge me when I'm there a few times every year.
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Anyone been to isis in the last year? I think it's a new name now. Just thinking of trying different things this trip I never did. Never actually went to it, always avoided hahahahha. Do girls actually dance? Can you chill and have a beer or two?
Definitely going to try hitting up this massage parlor I saw last time near the clock tower. Had some good looking girls. Going in middle of day after lunch. Getting a ok massage and tugged and then walking right out in a busy walking street sounds like fun! Hahaha.
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Isis is now Imperio
[QUOTE=Rzrfl69;2692204]Anyone been to isis in the last year? I think it's a new name now. Just thinking of trying different things this trip I never did. Never actually went to it, always avoided hahahahha. Do girls actually dance? Can you chill and have a beer or two?
Definitely going to try hitting up this massage parlor I saw last time near the clock tower. Had some good looking girls. Going in middle of day after lunch. Getting a ok massage and tugged and then walking right out in a busy walking street sounds like fun! Hahaha.[/QUOTE]I reported on Isis last month, Its now called Imperio.
My chicas also told me of a new club next to Delirium called VSOP, another Hookah bar but she says its the same as Dolce, Space, and Delirium with the girls.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2683330&viewfull=1#post2683330[/URL]
[QUOTE] So walking around with my chica and were talking, she's asking me if I know of an American who opened a new club called "Imperio". I'm telling her I've never heard of it, googling on the phone and nothing is coming up. She's insisting the club is here in Centro. So I decide to lets just walk around and see what we see. 20 minutes of walking just looking at things and were passing by Alchemico, Monkey Bar, Taboo, looking at all the crowds and as soon as we reach space I happen to look across the street where Isis is and the sign is gone, it now says Imperio. Well looks like we found the new club but fuck that I'm not going in because its still Isis to me. We kept going and just left Centro over to Getsemani, I can't begin to describe of I love the food over there.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Rzrfl69;2692204]Anyone been to isis in the last year? I think it's a new name now. Just thinking of trying different things this trip I never did. Never actually went to it, always avoided hahahahha. Do girls actually dance? Can you chill and have a beer or two?
Definitely going to try hitting up this massage parlor I saw last time near the clock tower. Had some good looking girls. Going in middle of day after lunch. Getting a ok massage and tugged and then walking right out in a busy walking street sounds like fun! Hahaha.[/QUOTE]I forgot to include the photo I took that night when my chica and I went looking for it. Funny thing is that I walked by there 2 nights later and the sign was gone. It was jut a black square so I don't know if they put it back up.
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CTG Apr 23-26
I spent this past Sat / Sun / Mon / Tues evenings in CTG. Stayed at one of Juan's places, $75 usd for two bed. It was okay, unspectacular but I'd stay there again mainly for the chica-liberal policy. Visited the clock tower every night. I was physically threatened in attempted robberies two out of four nights. I was also assaulted in an attempted robbery inside a Bogota bar which I will write about shortly in the Bogota subforum. I'll start off this TR with the details of the CTG attempted robberies because I want to keep mongers safe.
I'm slightly above average height and average build. My wingman is small in stature. Both of us are several years younger than the average monger on this board. We are both obvious foreigners in Colombia. We were walking around the walled city about 3 am early Sun, about 3 blocks from Space / LDV. We were approached by a pair of twins. Thin build, 21-ish, pretty, dark hair, had big tatts in middle of chests. They were pretty aggressive in trying to get us to take them back. One kept on hugging me, I had to repeatedly check my pockets each time. They said we could go back to our hotel room or theirs. Which I found awkward. Anyway, after about 10 minutes of resisting their overtures, a local, late 20's, athletic build, maybe 6'2" 210 lbs walks by and asks in English if I have a problem in a hostile tone. I told him no, I don't have a problem. He continues and insists that I look like I have a problem. I again say everything is fine. He continues and one of the twins asks if I know him. I tell her no, and she asks him what his problem is. He answers in Spanish that I owe him drug money. I don't ever touch illegal drugs. I thought that he may have confused me with someone that I resemble that actually did owe him money. But if he is going to front drugs to someone, it will be someone whom he knows well, someone he is not going to confuse with someone else. I think claiming a drug debt was a precursor to a robbery. We walked away casually and he did not pursue.
2nd attempted robbery was early Tues around 3:15 am after the clubs closed. Me and my wing exited the walled city and crossed the street. There is a wide pedestrian walkway that spans the entire block. To the right is a lineup of taxis. To the left are cars and not too many people. We were about halfway down the walkway on the left side waiting for an Uber when we were suddenly surrounded by 6 locals. They were teenagers to early 20's. One said to my wingman, "give me all you got if you don't want problems" in English. A skinny younger kid approached me and said something I did not understand. One of them knocked my phone out of my hand onto the ground near one of the thugs. Surprisingly, the thug didn't attempt to grab it. I quickly lunged for my phone, grabbed it, and we both walked away towards the clock tower where there were more people around. The thugs did not pursue.
Anyway, if you are planning to go to CTG just be careful and stick around the immediate area of the entry to the walled city and Space / LDV. Don't go walking around exploring unless you're part of a larger group.
More details about my trip. On Saturday night, the entrance to the tower was packed with freelancers. Many waving Hi as I walked by. Space and LDV are the places to go. There are also freelancers in Delirium but it's more of a gangsta rap type atmosphere which does not appeal to me. We went to a couple other clubs like Alquimico but they seemed to cater more towards civies. Tu Candela which used to be a freelancer hotspot was dead. Apparently to get a table in Space / LDV you must order a bottle. LDV is way more packed than Space, which is the reason I prefer Space. Both are smaller than I imagined, especially Space. They both looked like regular civie bars-no stage, no pole, no erotic art. You would think you were in a normal neighborhood lounge, except for the young chicas that constantly are smiling at you. They dress normally, in tight dresses, skirts and tops, jeans, sneakers and such. None walk around in lingerie or bare their tits or anything like that. They are way less aggressive than I imagined. Most of them will only smile, the bold ones may approach you and say Hi. I've only encountered a handful that got handsy with me. There was one that piqued my interest, pale skin, kinda squinty eyes, thin with no visible tatts. Her distinctive trait were her bangs, which were a bit too long and partially covered her eyes. Those of you familiar with the recent scene will instantly know who I'm talking about because of her bangs. I saw her 3 nights. The first two nights she was by herself. Just walking outside Space and then dancing by herself inside. I thought it was odd a chica would come down by herself since they almost always hang with their amigas. But then the 3rd night she was with a dark skinned amiga, who motioned me over after catching me numerous times staring at the bang chica. I rarely approach putas so I stayed put. Missed my chance and now feeling some remorse.
Went to PleyClub I think it was Saturday night. They insisted on proof of vaccination upon entry. No cover. About 12 chicas. Just about all of them came by our table to introduce themselves at one point or another. Beers were $200 k iirc. Wasn't too impressed so we left for the torre.
Overall, I love the Space / LDV scene. Being a hardcore Tijuana monger, it is so refreshing to see normal looking putas instead of the sleezy, topless, aggressive putas of Hong Kong and Adelitas. That kind of shit turns me off, some chubby puta just coming up to me grinding then asking for tip even though I was repulsed by the experience. In Space / LDV it feels like a normal bar, but you can have just about any chica you want for a price. They don't nag for drinks or tips. I'd like to go back but no way will I go solo.
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And El Paraiso del Marino? Is that a strip club? Or a regular night club type? Google reviews and videos make it look like a club you mingle with girls. Saw one member here posting about it. Would love to know more.
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Thanks, I had a great time. I just got their WhatsApp number but I kind of knew that they may change their number and I noticed they are so irresponsible with everything they do. They actually do not have my US number as I got a sim card from there and used that whatsapp number. I didn't want them contact me on my private number. No strings attached.
But you seem to be going there very frequently. I am sure you have decoded how they work and figured out a way to work around them. It was my first time and I really enjoyed it. Maybe time will get me in the loop. I actually followed suggestion and tips from here and I was able to figure out what areas to avoid going and where to go to have fun.
I may not be a good bargainer but got lucky with all the chicas I had the entire time I stayed there. They were all very nice and treated me right, no rushing and very easy going. They did what I asked for and went beyond. Not sure if the chicas there usually this nice or I just got lucky? BTW I am also very friendly person and down to earth.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2691936]Looks like you had a blast and ended it with the outlook of returning even before you boarded the plane to leave jajaaj. Those the good trips we all hope to have when we land. No drama, no fuss, just fun in the sun jajaja.
That plane landing in front of your plane can be frustrating! This is why I usually take the first available flight and sometimes I get lucky and first but sometimes I land second and its a long wait.
My advice to you, from years of doing Latin America, forget about her WhatApp number. Get her Instagram name. These girls are notorious for loosing their phones or changing their numbers every 3 months. Now the funny thing is that many of these girls are running around with iPhones but they never have iCloud on or back up the Whatsapp contacts. So when the phone gets lost, damaged or stolen they have to get a new one with a new number and loose all their contacts. But to be honest a year from now, if you do return, high chance you will find something new that excites you just a much and you will forget about her. If she's still talking to you after you left CTG start counting the days until she asks you to send money because of an emergency. They can smell when a gringo is new and will try it, I'm not going to lie, I do send a little maybe twice a year per chica (birthday / Christmas) but these are girls I've know for years who hardly charge me when I'm there a few times every year.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2692232]I spent this past Sat / Sun / Mon / Tues evenings in CTG. Stayed at one of Juan's places, $75 usd for two bed. It was okay, unspectacular but I'd stay there again mainly for the chica-liberal policy. Visited the clock tower every night. I was physically threatened in attempted robberies two out of four nights. I was also assaulted in an attempted robbery inside a Bogota bar which I will write about shortly in the Bogota subforum. I'll start off this TR with the details of the CTG attempted robberies because I want to keep mongers safe..[/QUOTE]When was the last time you were in Colombia? Things have changed with the increased Venezuelan presence and pandemic lockdown.
I'm not sure why a gringo would be outside at 3 am walking around in Centro but to each their own.
I'm going to guess that you went into these clubs in Centro expecting a working girl house or a strip club since you mentioned the absence of a stage, a pole and girls walking around in lingerie jajaja.
How does 6 people "suddenly" surround you and your wingman? Its not like they jump over the wall and sneak up behind you or jumped down from the trees or crawled out of the bushes. Its sounding like both you and your wingman was under the influence and these guys saw an opportunity and took it.
Well look on the bright side, the girls didn't drug and rob you, you didn't have any altercation with the police which resulted you in paying a large bribe jajaja.
No one needs a large group to walk around for safety.
Does Space still have that vomit smell when walking up the steps or inside the club?
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[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2692232]Tu Candela which used to be a freelancer hotspot was dead. LDV is way more packed than Space, which is the reason I prefer Space. Both are smaller than I imagined, especially Space. They both looked like regular civie bars-no stage, no pole, no erotic art. You would think you were in a normal neighborhood lounge, except for the young chicas that constantly are smiling at you. They dress normally, in tight dresses, skirts and tops, jeans, sneakers and such. None walk around in lingerie or bare their tits or anything like that. They are way less aggressive than I imagined.[/QUOTE]In what freelancer bar on this planet are there stages with poles and porn on the wall and chicks walking around in lingerie or bare chested? A freelancer bar is a normal neighborhood lounge or disco that has normally-dressed chicks that will leave with you for money.
[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2692232]Being a hardcore Tijuana monger, it is so refreshing to see normal looking putas instead of the sleezy, topless, aggressive putas of Hong Kong and Adelitas. That kind of shit turns me off, some chubby puta just coming up to me grinding then asking for tip even though I was repulsed by the experience. In Space / LDV it feels like a normal bar, but you can have just about any chica you want for a price. They don't nag for drinks or tips. I'd like to go back but no way will I go solo.[/QUOTE]IMHO Tijuana is doo doo for mongering. I always say if you happen to be in San Diego yes, but no need to make a special trip there when there are much better places. You don't see the European or Australian members of this board making a bee line for Tijuana. If you went to Brazil or Thailand you would probably lose your mind.
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Love the way this exchange rate is going!
Yeah being out 3 am in a foreign city associated with these activities you need to watch yourself. That's all. Know how your leaving the club. Where to get the taxi so your not wandering around. Stay near public spaces. Always have eyes in the back of your head pretty much. I love using a money clip. Keep it in my front pocket with hand over it as I'm pretty much anywhere. Paper copy of.
Passport.
Knowing the layout of the streets and not getting to hammered is key.
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It gets very shady right outside of the Wall area after 9 pm.
Watch out for drug dealers (cocaine) and corrupt cops looking for the inexperienced tourists. There are plenty of taxis outside of the entrance.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2692504]When was the last time you were in Colombia? Things have changed with the increased Venezuelan presence and pandemic lockdown.[/QUOTE]My only prior visit to Colombia was Medellin in 2016. Never did I feel uneasy or threatened during my 8 night stay.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2692504]I'm not sure why a gringo would be outside at 3 am walking around in Centro but to each their own.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if you're referring to the clock tower as "Centro" as I've never heard it referred to as that. But I was walking about 2-3 blocks from Space and 1/2 block down the wide pedestrian walkway across the street from the clock tower entrance. Since this is a major tourist area, I don't see why you feel it would be unusual to walk this area around the time the bars closed.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2692504]I'm going to guess that you went into these clubs in Centro expecting a working girl house or a strip club since you mentioned the absence of a stage, a pole and girls walking around in lingerie jajaja.[/QUOTE]I had never been there so I didn't know what to expect. I thought that it may have been possible that one of the clubs may have had a pole or stage. It wasn't the most outlandish of thoughts I don't think.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2692504]How does 6 people "suddenly" surround you and your wingman? Its not like they jump over the wall and sneak up behind you or jumped down from the trees or crawled out of the bushes. Its sounding like both you and your wingman was under the influence and these guys saw an opportunity and took it.[/QUOTE]I am usually a light drinker, and my wingman drinks half as much as I do. I may have had 2 or max 3 beers that night. Gangs of muggers don't zero in on their target by walking in a large obtrusive group and announcing that they will rob you from a mile away. They separate into smaller, less threatening groups and approach innocently from different directions then suddenly come together to surround their target.
[QUOTE=Nypher;2692504]No one needs a large group to walk around for safety. Does Space still have that vomit smell when walking up the steps or inside the club?[/QUOTE]I can't imagine a scenario where one is not safer from an attempted mugging when in a large group. I did not notice any strange odors when going up the stairs to Space.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2692535]In what freelancer bar on this planet are there stages with poles and porn on the wall and chicks walking around in lingerie or bare chested? A freelancer bar is a normal neighborhood lounge or disco that has normally-dressed chicks that will leave with you for money.
IMHO Tijuana is doo doo for mongering. I always say if you happen to be in San Diego yes, but no need to make a special trip there when there are much better places. You don't see the European or Australian members of this board making a bee line for Tijuana. If you went to Brazil or Thailand you would probably lose your mind.[/QUOTE]I was merely stating my observations of Space and LDV, and how they differed from hardcore puta bars, mainly for the benefit of mongers who have never been. I don't see a reason why you would comment about that. And I never said Tijuana is the best mongering destination. Matter of fact, I stated that I greatly preferred Cartagena over Tijuana. I frequent Tijuana due to convenience and proximity. Tijuana is a great mongering destination though. But there's no point in arguing which destination is the best. That's completely a matter of personal preference. Each destination has it own style, traits, specialties. If a monger prefers a straight up raunchy Latina *****house with onsite hotel, explicit stage shows, and packed with up to 600 putas on a weekend, then Tijuana would be at the top of his list. And don't forget ease of access as it's by far the most accessible to American mongers, who don't even need to book an international flight to get there. If one prefers social media hookers, then it would be Medellin. Freelancers in a tropical atmosphere? Cartagena. It's all personal preference. No use in wasting bandwidth trying to convince others that one particular destination is far superior to another.
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Will be in Cartagena July 1-4. Medellin 4-9 and back to Cartagena for few days before flying back. If anyone is there around that time DM me we'll get a drink. Medellin will be my 1st time but been to Cartagena bunch of times.
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[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2694209]Gangs of muggers don't zero in on their target by walking in a large obtrusive group and announcing that they will rob you from a mile away. They separate into smaller, less threatening groups and approach innocently from different directions then suddenly come together to surround their target.[/QUOTE]LOL. I have been traveling a long time and to probably more destinations than most, and often hang out in what many would call very shady places. I have never encountered nor have I ever read on here someone reporting on a gang of muggers that they have come across. And you say this as if it is such a common thing that you can even discuss the mannerisms of these roving gangs of muggers. I mean how often does one even see 6 people in the street together unless it is a tour group or kids getting out of school, but you are talking like gangs of muggers are a dime a dozen. Either you have been watching too many movies or you need to write one.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2694622]LOL. I have been traveling a long time and to probably more destinations than most, and often hang out in what many would call very shady places. I have never encountered nor have I ever read on here someone reporting on a gang of muggers that they have come across. And you say this as if it is such a common thing that you can even discuss the mannerisms of these roving gangs of muggers. I mean how often does one even see 6 people in the street together unless it is a tour group or kids getting out of school, but you are talking like gangs of muggers are a dime a dozen. Either you have been watching too many movies or you need to write one.[/QUOTE]You really have some really poor reading comprehensive skills, or a really vivid imagination. You continue time and time again, to just misinterpret things I say. I never said gangs of muggers are all that common. Where did I say that? You really think they roll in one big group attracting attention while they zero in on their target? LOL. Why don't you go call one of your illegal, underground Ubers, with your illegal Uber app, take a ride in their illegal car and make sure you sit in front because the cops may impound it LOL, pay with your illegal credit card, processed by an illegal bank, hopefully he'll have enough gas and not have to fill up at an illegal gas station along with way, and tip the illegal driver to take you to one of your shady places and enjoy your day.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2694622] I have been traveling a long time and to probably more destinations than most, and often hang out in what many would call very shady places. I have never encountered nor have I ever read on here someone reporting on a gang of muggers that they have come across. And you say this as if it is such a common thing that you can even discuss the mannerisms of these roving gangs of muggers. I mean how often does one even see 6 people in the street together unless it is a tour group or kids getting out of school, but you are talking like gangs of muggers are a dime a dozen.[/QUOTE]In Costa Rica, a block near the old Del Rey, I had a group of 5 girls, probably 20-25 year olds walk up to me, try to pick pocket me. Two put their hands in my pockets and one pulled my cash out, it landed on the sidewalk. Fortunately I scooped it up before any of the girls got their filthy hands on it, and took off running to the Del Rey.
Never been mugged by guys, thank God. Had a creepy guy follow me in Santa Fe, Bogota, but I ducked into a corner restaurant and ordered some food and he eventually left the area.
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This is funny. Hahahah. A group of girls tried to pick pocket 🤣129315;129315;129315;.
This guy watches too many spy films with how much he assumes he's being followed.
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Cartagena trip
Going to Cartagena this week. Just want to know if there are any legitimate good massage places. Looking to get nice massage, manicure, pedicure, facial etc. Do not know if Cartagena is known like that like in Thailand, Philippines, China.
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Killing off coast of Cartagena, island of Baru.
[URL]https://www.wsj.com/articles/paraguayan-organized-crime-prosecutor-shot-dead-on-beach-during-honeymoon-11652225668?mod=lead_feature_below_a_pos1[/URL]
Prosecutor from Paraguay was killed by people on jet skis, right off Lagito on the island of Baru.
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[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2695742][URL]https://www.wsj.com/articles/paraguayan-organized-crime-prosecutor-shot-dead-on-beach-during-honeymoon-11652225668?mod=lead_feature_below_a_pos1[/URL]
Prosecutor from Paraguay was killed by people on jet skis, right off Lagito on the island of Baru.[/QUOTE]I read about that in the news. That' seems like some some James Bond shit not like something that would happen in real life.
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I have 2 that come to you for 150,000 COP
[QUOTE=Sammon;2695733]Going to Cartagena this week. Just want to know if there are any legitimate good massage places. Looking to get nice massage, manicure, pedicure, facial etc. Do not know if Cartagena is known like that like in Thailand, Philippines, China.[/QUOTE]If your looking for ones that come to your place and give you and perform the services I know of 2 that will.
One does extras like happy ending or full service. 150 k extra for happy ending. Full service can be negotiated, YMMV on price.
The other won't budge no matter the offer amount. Both young 20's.
If interested, I'll PM you their instagram so you can see what they look like so you won't go in blind and solicit services from something your not attracted to. Jajaja.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2695778]You must have some pretty poor life experience skills. Didn't you see the ISG residential mugging expert say that they do not operate like that? So it is impossible for it to have happened as you say.[/QUOTE]Not sure who the expert is or why you believe him but in that area of San José the tavestis often travel in packs and do that type of robbery. I'm not relying on anything but my own experiences there, over 35 trips and many late night early morning walks over a 10 year period. Yes it was risky and I don't suggest it to anyone but I got to be a familiar face. There are no groups of real girls on the street there, only the trans.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2695778]You must have some pretty poor life experience skills. Didn't you see the ISG residential mugging expert say that they do not operate like that? So it is impossible for it to have happened as you say.[/QUOTE]Have been on this board, reading your posts Mr. Enternational, for 20 years now, under 5 or 6 different nics that I change after a couple years to keep my identity private. So I do not know why you are criticizing my life experiences skills as poor. First hand experience is a life experience fact, not a fiction. And experience is what one gains after they get something different than they expect to get. And this was not a mugging, it was an attempted pick pocket experience that I recovered from successfully. Do not criticize other board members, someday you will probably meet me in a bar and ask me what my nic is on this board.
Have been coming to San Jose probably 8-9 times, but not lately since the Del Rey closed and reopened. Met up with John, the former Del Rey owner, in Cartagena once.
I saw the pickpocket happen because it happened to me, I saw and felt 2 of the 4 or 5 girls reached into my front pockets. I saw them walking towards me about a half block from the front corner door of the Del Rey, by a parking lot, in broad daylight, around noon. I keep my money in my right front pocket and do not use a wallet so my wallet does not get stolen. And one girl pulled all of my bills out of my front right pocket, and onto the sidewalk. In a quick swoop, I snatched them up and ran the half block or so, back to the corner door of the Del Rey. They appeared surprised, like they did not think they would see money come out of my front pockets. They could have been transvestites, as I recall a couple of them were about my height, but I did not bother to ask them or check to see an adams apple, LOL. No point in calling the police, it was an attempted theft, not completed.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2695932]If your looking for ones that come to your place and give you and perform the services I know of 2 that will.
One does extras like happy ending or full service. 150 k extra for happy ending. Full service can be negotiated, YMMV on price.
The other won't budge no matter the offer amount. Both young 20's.
If interested, I'll PM you their instagram so you can see what they look like so you won't go in blind and solicit services from something your not attracted to. Jajaja.[/QUOTE]Damn, I would love to get these contacts. In house massages are my thing. Please PM- do I need to buy a subscription to this forum? Thanks for the info. BTW I'm going to CTG June 1 for one week. Will be posting a trip report then. Thanks for all the info fellas.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2695932]If your looking for ones that come to your place and give you and perform the services I know of 2 that will.
One does extras like happy ending or full service. 150 k extra for happy ending. Full service can be negotiated, YMMV on price.
The other won't budge no matter the offer amount. Both young 20's.
If interested, I'll PM you their instagram so you can see what they look like so you won't go in blind and solicit services from something your not attracted to. Jajaja.[/QUOTE]I sent you a pm.
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[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2696030]Have been on this board, reading your posts Mr. Enternational, for 20 years now, under 5 or 6 different nics that I change after a couple years to keep my identity private. So I do not know why you are criticizing my life experiences skills as poor.[/QUOTE]I was speaking from the mugging expert's point of view, not my own. He said they they do not mug the way you described.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;2695733]Going to Cartagena this week. Just want to know if there are any legitimate good massage places. Looking to get nice massage, manicure, pedicure, facial etc. Do not know if Cartagena is known like that like in Thailand, Philippines, China.[/QUOTE]In Centro, Diego Moya for mani / pedi. For facial and massage, Plenitud is next door. Enjoy!
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2696140]I was speaking from the mugging expert's point of view, not my own. He said they they do not mug the way you described.[/QUOTE]No one believes an anonymous, unnamed "mugging expert". There is no such thing as a "Mugging expert". LOL. Does this person have a Ph. The degree in "Mugging"? Even if there were, the person would have to be qualified as an expert, for example, if a person witnesses 100 muggings a year, he now is a "mugging expert" based on his experience, knowledge and background.
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I'll be back first week of June.
Playa Hollywood during the day. No need to contact. See you there if you're around.
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Hey guys. Anyone have info on El Paraiso del Marino?
I have never been or heard of before. A girl I've been talking to said it's a great spot. Only escorts. More local, in the city.
It looks cool and legit. But pretty hesitant visiting alone. In all my trips I have stayed only from Laguito to centro and Getsemani.
Only once did I go to casa Rosario. And that was like 5 years ago.
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It looks a lot like sportsmens or something in Costa Rica. Google maps even shows it as a hotel.
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[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2696755]No one believes an anonymous, unnamed "mugging expert". There is no such thing as a "Mugging expert". LOL. Does this person have a Ph. The degree in "Mugging"? Even if there were, the person would have to be qualified as an expert, for example, if a person witnesses 100 muggings a year, he now is a "mugging expert" based on his experience, knowledge and background.[/QUOTE]I do not know his creditials, but he seems to have more experience than me. I have never had someone try to mug me, so to me someone that has had someone attempt to mug them 3 times in 5 days is undoubtedly an expert in my eyes. They know the ins and outs of how muggers operate, so it is best to take heed.
[QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2694209]Gangs of muggers don't zero in on their target by walking in a large obtrusive group and announcing that they will rob you from a mile away. They separate into smaller, less threatening groups and approach innocently from different directions then suddenly come together to surround their target.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=ClamSlammer;2692258]My first 5 nights in Colombia, I was victim of attempted robbery 3 times. Twice in Cartagena (read my TR there) and once here in Bogota. The street was well lit, and there were people everywhere. But still, I had a very uneasy feeling. The vibe of this place, it just had me very uneasy. Couldn't ever relax. I felt uneasy the whole time.
So a couple minutes later, I'm standing right in front of the stairs, a few feet from where I was previously standing, and I feel a hard blow to my back. Somebody hit me as hard as they could. Didn't knock me down though. I turn around and it's the same guy from upstairs. I go up to him to say WTF and he's shouting things at me I can't hear / understand, then he puts his hand in my front pants pocket in an attempt to steal what was in there. I immediately grab my pocket with both hands to secure its contents and turn away. I was surprised at how little he resisted and he let go rather easily. At this point I didn't know how many friends he had or weapons or what not, so I immediately headed for the exit and across the street to Venus. I was extremely agitated and trying to collect my thoughts as putas kept on approaching me. I was paranoid watching every customer enter the establishment, thinking that it was him returning with a weapon or with friends. I had enough and just hopped in the first taxi and headed back to my hotel.
I'm as hardcore and seasoned Tijuana monger as they come. And this Santa Fe place made me uneasy as hell. .
For those of you that are on the fence about going to Colombia, think about what I just wrote. A seasoned monger of Latin America jolted by the amount of crime. I wouldn't say don't go, but I certainly wouldn't go solo.[/QUOTE]
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Cartagena Report
First time visiting Cartagena. After being in Covid Jail thought I will come here. My observation.
Arrival- flight on time from Miami. Had verifly filled and had no problem with American Airlines. Had filled out checkmig which was approved in minutes. It is important to print a copy. At immigration they check passport, covid vaccine card, checkmig. I tried to pull e mail for checkmig but internet not working. I had no problem.
Transport- Plenty of taxis available. No mafia taxi here. He only charged 15000 to Ermita Marriott hotel.
Hotel- Not an large impressive hotel Hotel has sign outside saying Ermita. No Marriott sign. When the taxi dropped me off I thought I was in the wrong hotel because the picture on the website showed very big hotel. Room is clean and nice bed, pillows, towels etc comparable to other Marriott hotels. No issues. Plenty of hot water. Only complaint is there is no coffee. They said there is coffee in the reception area. Free breakfast which is buffet style with adequate choices. Plenty of fresh fruits. Beach is across the road not crowded. Walking distance to the wall and central of the city. Taxis are cheap.
Hotel is girlfriendly. Read below.
Girls- I got the impression that Cartagena hotels does not allow girls unless I checked in with one. With the help of a senior here I had arranged a girl. Quite pretty and let me leave it at that because I promised saying I will not write details and post pictures. I sincerely thank him for that.
Plenty of girls available. Make eye contact and talk. I am not fluent in Spanish but google translate does the trick.
Brought two girls in today and the front desk manager said all they require is hold the I. D and they need to sign a paper. Do not know what it said.
However suffice to say this hotel allows guests.
Weather is hot. So carry water bottles. Went for a tour of city, market etc.
Happening place is el centro with maze of streets. Plenty of restaurants. Bars with girls. Hard to differentiate between tourists and working girls. Once again make eye contact and smile like anywhere else in the world.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;2697050]First time visiting Cartagena. After being in Covid Jail thought I will come here. My observation.
Arrival- flight on time from Miami. Had verifly filled and had no problem with American Airlines. Had filled out checkmig which was approved in minutes. It is important to print a copy. At immigration they check passport, covid vaccine card, checkmig. I tried to pull e mail for checkmig but internet not working. I had no problem.
Transport- Plenty of taxis available. No mafia taxi here. He only charged 15000 to Ermita Marriott hotel.
Hotel- Not an large impressive hotel Hotel has sign outside saying Ermita. No Marriott sign. When the taxi dropped me off I thought I was in the wrong hotel because the picture on the website showed very big hotel. Room is clean and nice bed, pillows, towels etc comparable to other Marriott hotels. No issues. Plenty of hot water. Only complaint is there is no coffee. They said there is coffee in the reception area. Free breakfast which is buffet style with adequate choices. Plenty of fresh fruits. Beach is across the road not crowded. Walking distance to the wall and central of the city. Taxis are cheap.
Hotel is girlfriendly. Read below.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you were staying in the beach area. That's that is in the direction of the airport, not Boca Grande. Common Sense, advice, smile and be friendly and assertive if you need to, the people are too aggressive.
Still hard to believe that people actually don't read all the reports that are made on Cartagena.
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2697320]Sounds like you were staying in the beach area. That's that is in the direction of the airport, not Boca Grande. Common Sense, advice, smile and be friendly and assertive if you need to, the people are too aggressive.
Still hard to believe that people actually don't read all the reports that are made on Cartagena.[/QUOTE]This is the only Marriott hotel for me to get points. I tried Sheraton Boca Grande but it was much more expensive. This hotel is pretty good. Can walk to El Centro to get some exercise. I found nice massage places. Extras were not enquired or not offered.
Yes, girls are pushy and ask high prices. However this is not Philippines, Thailand or China. Cannot find GFE here unless I guess you live here. Most girls enhanced and use heavy make up. For my first trip here I am taking in tourist sights. For a historic town it has some charm. As I am not much of a beach person this trip is good so far. Anyway off my bucket list.
I have plenty of experiences being with Colombians in Costa Rica and Panama. Those were totally GFE. Maybe other places other than Cartagena can find those in Colombia.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;2697050]First time visiting Cartagena. After being in Covid Jail thought I will come here. My observation.
Arrival- flight on time from Miami. Had verifly filled and had no problem with American Airlines. Had filled out checkmig which was approved in minutes. It is important to print a copy. At immigration they check passport, covid vaccine card, checkmig. I tried to pull email for checkmig but internet not working. I had no problem.
Transport- Plenty of taxis available. No mafia taxi here. He only charged 15000 to Ermita Marriott hotel.
Hotel- Not an large impressive Hotel has sign outside saying Ermita. No Marriott sign. When the taxi dropped me off I thought I was in the wrong hotel because the picture on the website showed very big hotel. Room is clean and nice bed, pillows, towels etc comparable to other Marriott hotels. No issues. Plenty of hot water. Only complaint is there is no coffee. They said there is coffee in the reception area. Free breakfast which is buffet style with adequate choices. Plenty of fresh fruits. Beach is across the road not crowded. Walking distance to the wall and central of the city. Taxis are cheap.
Hotel is girlfriendly. Read below.
Girls- I got the impression that Cartagena hotels does not allow girls unless I checked in with one. With the help of a senior here I had arranged a girl. Quite pretty and let me leave it at that because I promised saying I will not write details and post pictures. I sincerely thank him for that.
Plenty of girls available. Make eye contact and talk. I am not fluent in Spanish but google translate does the trick.
Brought two girls in today and the front desk manager said all they require is hold the I. D and they need to sign a paper. Do not know what it said.
However suffice to say this hotel allows guests.
Weather is hot. So carry water bottles. Went for a tour of city, market etc.
Happening place is el centro with maze of streets. Plenty of restaurants. Bars with girls. Hard to differentiate between tourists and working girls. Once again make eye contact and smile like anywhere else in the world.[/QUOTE]It can be difficult to know whose a working girl and whose not and this is where a little Spanish comes in handy. A quick "hola, como estas" to lure them in and see if they are willing to engage, then follow up with "estas trabajando". From there negotiations can happen, or go for a simple "I'm going to check out this new place for the first time, join me". The chicas in my circle look like regular girls 18 - 25, and I always have to remind them to cover up and not to attract attention due to they will show up in outfits that will turn heads. Some outfits I don't even want to take them into a resturaunt and just order in with Rapi. Fun girls non the less.
The tricky thing with meeting new chicas is trust, and normally, try them during the day then if they are cool they can come back to stay the night.
Ermita and OZ Hotel are two that allow guests. Oz Hotel is more expensive and always booked though because some travelers want luxury accommodations and it comes at tourist prices.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2697370]This is the only Marriott hotel for me to get points. I tried Sheraton Boca Grande but it was much more expensive. This hotel is pretty good. Can walk to El Centro to get some exercise. I found nice massage places. Extras were not enquired or not offered.
Yes, girls are pushy and ask high prices. However this is not Philippines, Thailand or China. Cannot find GFE here unless I guess you live here. Most girls enhanced and use heavy make up. For my first trip here I am taking in tourist sights. For a historic town it has some charm. As I am not much of a beach person this trip is good so far. Anyway off my bucket list.
I have plenty of experiences being with Colombians in Costa Rica and Panama. Those were totally GFE. Maybe other places other than Cartagena can find those in Colombia.[/QUOTE]When the gringo is a new face the chicas will try to over charge by saying ridiculous high prices in dollars and will try charge by the hour. I normally counter by the polvo in pesos ad the price get cuts in half. I have a few that do GFE but they have to be attracted to the gringo to do it, and they have to trust the gringo to no cum inside, or they will have the IUD and charge extra to do it, but lie and say the extra money is to buy the pill.
The makeup can get highly annoying. Its fine if in a hotel where they change the sheets and fresh towels every day but when in an apartment or house with no maid service, it gets annoying real fast as the makeup gets everywhere.
Looks like your enjoying your first trip. I would suggest doing the segway history tour. Lots of history in Cartegena. Or if you're a food person grab a chica and check out Getsemeni at night.
Theres a video on youtube of someone throwing money in the air at the Clock Tower, so that's a place you may want to avoid at night. Its cool to pass through but not hang around as these "ballers" like to put on a show to impress strangers.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;2697370]This is the only Marriott hotel for me to get points. I tried Sheraton Boca Grande but it was much more expensive. This hotel is pretty good. Can walk to El Centro to get some exercise. I found nice massage places. Extras were not enquired or not offered.
Yes, girls are pushy and ask high prices. However this is not Philippines, Thailand or China. Cannot find GFE here unless I guess you live here. Most girls enhanced and use heavy make up. For my first trip here I am taking in tourist sights. For a historic town it has some charm. As I am not much of a beach person this trip is good so far. Anyway off my bucket list.
I have plenty of experiences being with Colombians in Costa Rica and Panama. Those were totally GFE. Maybe other places other than Cartagena can find those in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Spot on observation. It is very difficult to get GFE there. Many of the girls are not from Cartagena and are only here to work. You’d need to be on the ground a while to find a cartagenera that isn't gringo hunting, but they are absolute angels when you do. Almost married one.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2697431]It can be difficult to know whose a working girl and whose not and this is where a little Spanish comes in handy. A quick "hola, como estas" to lure them in and see if they are willing to engage, then follow up with "estas trabajando". From there negotiations can happen, or go for a simple "I'm going to check out this new place for the first time, join me". The chicas in my circle look like regular girls 18 - 25, and I always have to remind them to cover up and not to attract attention due to they will show up in outfits that will turn heads. Some outfits I don't even want to take them into a resturaunt and just order in with Rapi. Fun girls non the less.
The tricky thing with meeting new chicas is trust, and normally, try them during the day then if they are cool they can come back to stay the night.
Ermita and OZ Hotel are two that allow guests. Oz Hotel is more expensive and always booked though because some travelers want luxury accommodations and it comes at tourist prices.
When the gringo is a new face the chicas will try to over charge by saying ridiculous high prices in dollars and will try charge by the hour. I normally counter by the polvo in pesos ad the price get cuts in half. I have a few that do GFE but they have to be attracted to the gringo to do it, and they have to trust the gringo to no cum inside, or they will have the IUD and charge extra to do it, but lie and say the extra money is to buy the pill.
The makeup can get highly annoying. Its fine if in a hotel where they change the sheets and fresh towels every day but when in an apartment or house with no maid service, it gets annoying real fast as the makeup gets everywhere.
Looks like your enjoying your first trip. I would suggest doing the segway history tour. Lots of history in Cartegena. Or if you're a food person grab a chica and check out Getsemeni at night.
Theres a video on youtube of someone throwing money in the air at the Clock Tower, so that's a place you may want to avoid at night. Its cool to pass through but not hang around as these "ballers" like to put on a show to impress strangers.[/QUOTE]I guess I am looking for non geisha girls. Found one walking alone near the clock tower average looks but friendly. Good enough to do touristy things. At the same time girls especially looking to make money needs to enhance their looks. I guess I am spoiled by Asian non hooker girls who are like girlfriends irrespective of the age difference.
Last night we went to getsamani and had dinner at a hole in the wall but tasty food. Pic attached. Walked around the maze of streets and ducked into bars. There were girls there too. Not high end.
Like you said it is better to meet them during daytime and see if things click. Definitely not make long term plans under assumption.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2697431]The makeup can get highly annoying. Its fine if in a hotel where they change the sheets and fresh towels every day but when in an apartment or house with no maid service, it gets annoying real fast as the makeup gets everywhere.[/QUOTE]As soon as a chick with makeup comes into my place, I tell her to go wash that shit off her face.
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You guys still all get excited for your trips?? Mines righttttt around the corner. Can't wait. Already texting all my tinder contacts. If I don't hear back, remove it. Clean up that list. So ready for this trip.
Feel like I have a good list of girls ready. Got my regular of course.
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[QUOTE=Rzrfl69;2698210]You guys still all get excited for your trips?? Mines righttttt around the corner. Can't wait. Already texting all my tinder contacts. If I don't hear back, remove it. Clean up that list. So ready for this trip.
Feel like I have a good list of girls ready. Got my regular of course.[/QUOTE]I ended up moving mine back a month due to the flight cost was twice as much as it normally is. Even my usual Airbnb's increased, one that is usually $350 for 3 bedroom 3 bathroom with rooftop jacuzzi is now $550 a night and they don't even have hot water SMH.
My chicas are also telling me crime is also increasing so they are mostly going for TLN where they don't have to leave late at night.
Enjoy your trip and stay safe out there.
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Rates?
Hi,
I'm planning to visit Cartagena in the near future. Your post was very informative. You suggested that offering pesos will give a better rate. What is normal going rates for an hour and for the night in your experience? I don't want to overpay as I'm not familiar with the rates here. I know it depends on the girl and all, but I don't want to go in blind. If you can state normal rates in pesos and dollars, it would be great!
[QUOTE=Nypher;2697431]It can be difficult to know whose a working girl and whose not and this is where a little Spanish comes in handy. A quick "hola, como estas" to lure them in and see if they are willing to engage, then follow up with "estas trabajando". From there negotiations can happen, or go for a simple "I'm going to check out this new place for the first time, join me". The chicas in my circle look like regular girls 18 - 25, and I always have to remind them to cover up and not to attract attention due to they will show up in outfits that will turn heads. Some outfits I don't even want to take them into a resturaunt and just order in with Rapi. Fun girls non the less.
The tricky thing with meeting new chicas is trust, and normally, try them during the day then if they are cool they can come back to stay the night.
Ermita and OZ Hotel are two that allow guests. Oz Hotel is more expensive and always booked though because some travelers want luxury accommodations and it comes at tourist prices.[/QUOTE]
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Advice for First time visitor?
[QUOTE=Rzrfl69;2698210]You guys still all get excited for your trips?? Mines righttttt around the corner. Can't wait. Already texting all my tinder contacts. If I don't hear back, remove it. Clean up that list. So ready for this trip.
Feel like I have a good list of girls ready. Got my regular of course.[/QUOTE]I'm planning to visit Cartagena soon with my friends for the first time. Looking to get some insight into the rates we should be considering normal. Would it be better to pay in pesos or dollars? What is considered a normal rate for girls (hour and night) from one of the clubs (like dolce). What about if we call from tinder etc? Or what about off the street? I'm looking to get an idea of how much money to bring.
Thanks for any advice you may have.
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[QUOTE=MystRyan;2698294]I'm planning to visit Cartagena soon with my friends for the first time. Looking to get some insight into the rates we should be considering normal. Would it be better to pay in [b]pesos[/b] or dollars? What is considered a normal rate for girls (hour and night) from one of the clubs (like dolce). What about if we call from tinder etc? Or what about off the street? I'm looking to get an idea of how much money to bring.
Thanks for any advice you may have.[/QUOTE]I hate to say this but all the info you seek is here, Read these forum pages, at least go back at least 23 pages. All Shall Be Revealed........
To your one question always pay using Colombian Peso (COP) and make sure when your discussing pricing that the Chica knows your talking COP. When the price is agreed, I use the notes section of my phone and enter the amount with COP next to it and show it to the Chica so there is no illusion that they are getting anything but COP. (example $200,000. 00 COP) and make sure they agree / confirm what they see on the phone. If not some will swear you were talking USD.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2698218]I ended up moving mine back a month due to the flight cost was twice as much as it normally is. Even my usual Airbnb's increased, one that is usually $350 for 3 bedroom 3 bathroom with rooftop jacuzzi is now $550 a night and they don't even have hot water SMH.
[b]My chicas are also telling me crime is also increasing so they are mostly going for TLN where they don't have to leave late at night.[/B]
Enjoy your trip and [b]stay safe out there.[/b][/QUOTE]Looks like there is a benefit to a bad situation (increasing crime). Hopefully the rates your quoted are just as beneficial since your providing a nice environment and safety !
Airbnb's with no hot water common??
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[QUOTE=TheCritic;2698340]Looks like there is a benefit to a bad situation (increasing crime). Hopefully the rates your quoted are just as beneficial since your providing a nice environment and safety !
Airbnb's with no hot water common??[/QUOTE]Not everyone get the same rate. Some of us whos been going there for a while are known and the girls will treat as regular but when its a new face its instant high prices, haggling, or not getting what you want. Been in that situation multiple times and it just becomes frustrating as I don't want to haggle the first half of my trip to find someone to enjoy the remaining half. I stick with who I've known over the years and it works for me. New girls come in all the time but once they check my Instagram and see I'm friends with their working friends, its all cool, I'm not worried about them stealing from me and they not worried I'm going to fuck them over. It sucks we have to run checks on each other through mutual friends but with gringos doing stupid things like refusing to pay agreed amount after services and chicas drugging and robbing, both sides have to be careful.
Airbnb in a with hot water can be a coin toss when staying in a house Centro or Getsemani. If the listing does not say it then high chance they do not have it. But not having hot water isn't a deal breaker as the cold water there is room temp and the room temp there is hot and humid. I've been that gringo who used room temp water for days and didn't even know there was hot water jajaja. In apartment buildings they will most likely have hot water but I like the private houses better, no security BS and I can have unlimited visitors or go over the capacity allowed without anyone saying anything.
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[QUOTE=MystRyan;2698292]Hi,
I'm planning to visit Cartagena in the near future. Your post was very informative. You suggested that offering pesos will give a better rate. What is normal going rates for an hour and for the night in your experience? I don't want to overpay as I'm not familiar with the rates here. I know it depends on the girl and all, but I don't want to go in blind. If you can state normal rates in pesos and dollars, it would be great![/QUOTE]To echo what at The Critic said. Read back the reports over the last few pages. The only problem is that when trying to read this site on a phone mobile browser than it has allot of quotes it messes it up so if your accessing by mobile and your phone browser has a option to enable Desktop version, its a life saver for this page.
To sum it up.
As a new face your rates won't be the same as a vets rate.
Don't talk in dollars only pesos.
Don't negotiate for time, only for the nut.
Venezuelans will be cheaper than Colombians.
Older Colombian women will want more than younger ones. (the ones I get on Tinder 18 - 22 still lives at home and are not dependent on working the street to support themselves, they mostly want money for hair, makeup, and nails. Especially makeup and nails).
Make sure your housing arrangement allows visitors and make sure your visitor have their Cedula or Passport.
Get you chicas in the day time and try them out for a lesser rate, when nighttime comes if your a new face that rate increases. But if its the same girl you already met in the day and things went well she ill be more than willing to see you again at the same price or go out with you to dinner / dance / drink for free and will only mention money if sex is involved.
These girls are always late. If you want them to show up at 8 tell them to be there at 7.
Always ask how far do they live from where your staying, then whatever time they tell you, multiple it by 3 (I'm not joking, I wish I was, but I'm not). When they say 15 minutes in reality its an hour.
Make sure they give you their live location on Whatsapp when they are in the taxi coming to you because although they say they live in Cartagena, Cartagena is huge and many of them have to commute over an hour to get to Centro, if its raining double that time expectancy. (live location cuts 90% of their bullshit excuses on why their late as you can see if they were siting at one place too long and remind them of the importance of time).
Depending on how much you negotiated, if you didn't negotiated the cab fare into it be prepared to pay their cab fare when they arrive or when they leave or both. 20.000 COP max.
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General observation from trip
Cartagena is a tourist and party town. Like any party town there are working girls. Colombians are generally pretty and most of the working girls are boob enhanced. There are a mix of young and 30 s and 40 s as well. They are try to look young. I did not see too many hanging around around clock tower waiting for customers. Maybe it has something to do with the police crackdown. There are some who are walking the street and need to get their attention and talk to them. Otherwise most connections are made in the bars, dance places. There are plenty of young male tourists who gets the first crack at beautiful girls. They dance, drink etc like young people do. For older people like me it is hard to monger in that atmosphere.
Other way to get girls are from social sites or connections. Definitely not getting GFE. Mongering cost is high and the service is questionable. Like anything else if you are a frequent visitor and get to know the girls good fun can be had because of the friendship. But for strictly mongering purpose IMHO Cartagena is not the place. Better other places in Colombia or Costa Rica or Dominican Republic.
In most other places I meet a girl have fun and take trips etc and get a GFE. Ofcourse money is everything. Because it is my first time in Cartagena I did lots of tourist things and had some fun with girls. However I would not go back there for strictly mongering. There are better places for that especially if you are older.
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Mongering in your senior years.
I could not agree more. As someone who first came to Cartagena around 2007 and has visited several times since, I feel the sense has deteriorated esp if you are older. I notice the scene appears to have shifted to the bars and clubs rather than the clocktower area. There is also a profusions of Vennies, something I never saw or noticed several years ago. My limited experience with them suggest no GFE to be had. They are there to make as much money as possible in the shortest period of time. Many of them have hidden boyfriends, sometimes quite nearby so caution is recommended.
However, I will prob return in late October as I did last fall since I enjoy the overall atmosphere and have a very good living situation while I am there (as in free). The food, culture, and the relaxed ambience and beauty of the city makes up the for the rather weak mongering structure. I am speaking, of course, as a senior who can certainly do better with the ladies in Southeast Asia though the distance to travel there can be daunting. So I just grin and bear it with the idea that even a blind pig finds an acorn every once in a while.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2698550]Cartagena is a tourist and party town. Like any party town there are working girls. Colombians are generally pretty and most of the working girls are boob enhanced. There are a mix of young and 30 s and 40 s as well. They are try to look young. I did not see too many hanging around around clock tower waiting for customers. Maybe it has something to do with the police crackdown. There are some who are walking the street and need to get their attention and talk to them. Otherwise most connections are made in the bars, dance places. There are plenty of young male tourists who gets the first crack at beautiful girls. They dance, drink etc like young people do. For older people like me it is hard to monger in that atmosphere.
Other way to get girls are from social sites or connections. Definitely not getting GFE. Mongering cost is high and the service is questionable. Like anything else if you are a frequent visitor and get to know the girls good fun can be had because of the friendship. But for strictly mongering purpose IMHO Cartagena is not the place. Better other places in Colombia or Costa Rica or Dominican Republic.
In most other places I meet a girl have fun and take trips etc and get a GFE. Ofcourse money is everything. Because it is my first time in Cartagena I did lots of tourist things and had some fun with girls. However I would not go back there for strictly mongering. There are better places for that especially if you are older.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MystRyan;2698294]I'm planning to visit Cartagena soon with my friends for the first time. Looking to get some insight into the rates we should be considering normal. Would it be better to pay in pesos or dollars? What is considered a normal rate for girls (hour and night) from one of the clubs (like dolce). What about if we call from tinder etc? Or what about off the street? I'm looking to get an idea of how much money to bring.
Thanks for any advice you may have.[/QUOTE]This is what I always do and it works for me. Rent a nice house in old city so you can come and go as you please. Explore during the day everything is in walking distance in old city. Go out to nice restaurant enjoy a nice dinner with your friends and few drinks. Hit up clock tower around 10 and see the traffic if it's not what you like. Walk over to Dolce and Space they are right next to each other. It will be full of girls which you can see and start conversation and go from there. I use my translator make sure to download the offline version service in Dolce sucks. Or have one of the waiters put in the WIFI password for you. Find one you like after you can walk to your house if it's close or get in a cab maybe 5-10 pesos at most. Most I've ever paid for a girl is $100 USD no condom on oral for 1-2 hrs. Girls on the street specially Venezuelan ones you can expect 200-250 pesos at most for 1-2 hrs. I don't like the spend night with anyone I don't personally know meaning spent more than few dates with her. Also I've walked in old city in all hours of the night no issues with anyone. Enjoy your time I'll be there in 1st week of July my self.
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For those who are interested I have two university girls available, they need money to pay for the semester, information and photos by private message.
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I was at the clock tower yesterday. Didn't see much action. Lots of female police around. Some girls. But honestly felt uncomfortable trying to look for a girl there with all the police and family activities going on now.
I went to dolce vita. Was almost a even ratio men to women. Really didn't see any stunners. Didn't even end up taking one back.
Girls all quote 100-150 $. Tell them pesos and it's 300-350 k hahahah.
Taxi from airport to Laguito 22 k. Taxis to torre de reloj 10 k.
Agree with the distance and time it takes girls. It's annoying. One right now swearing she's in Laguito. It's taken her a hour to get here 😂.
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[QUOTE=Rzrfl69;2699195]Agree with the distance and time it takes girls. It's annoying. One right now swearing she's in Laguito. It's taken her a hour to get here 😂.[/QUOTE]As I've learned over the years, I always tell them I need their "live location" in Whatsapp once they are in the taxi. Getting their live location cuts 99% of their bullshit "15 minutes away" as most of them once the give me the location they are coming from all the way by Mall Paseo de la Castellana which is an hour minimum. I added 4 pictures from my last trip where it was 4 different girls who said they lived 15 minutes from where I was staying. I'm the blue dot.
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I'm in
[QUOTE=OnFireBoy;2698993]For those who are interested I have two university girls available, they need money to pay for the semester, information and photos by private message.[/QUOTE]You can send them my way if you like.
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Clock tower is over guys. Yeah you see a few girls walking through. But nothing like before with 100 girls standing around. Best is dolce vita. Delirium. And space. And tinder.
Other than that Cartagena is popping! It's still not hard to find fun. I don't find prices any higher than before.
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Try Imperio
[QUOTE=Rzrfl69;2699658]Clock tower is over guys. Yeah you see a few girls walking through. But nothing like before with 100 girls standing around. Best is dolce vita. Delirium. And space. And tinder.
Other than that Cartagena is popping! It's still not hard to find fun. I don't find prices any higher than before.[/QUOTE]Try Imperio.
Its was the ISIS Stripclub which is across the street from the KFC next to Space. Lots of my girls tell me they are going there as its more relaxed than the other 3 clubs.
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[QUOTE=OnFireBoy;2698993]For those who are interested I have two university girls available, they need money to pay for the semester, information and photos by private message.[/QUOTE]Sent you PM.
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[QUOTE=OnFireBoy;2698993]For those who are interested I have two university girls available, they need money to pay for the semester, information and photos by private message.[/QUOTE]Thank you OnFireBoy. These girls are amazing. Very beautiful and sexy.
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[QUOTE=OnFireBoy;2698993]For those who are interested I have two university girls available, they need money to pay for the semester, information and photos by private message.[/QUOTE]New to the forum, can you send me the details? I can't PM.
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[QUOTE=Randomtravel;2700720]New to the forum, can you send me the details? I can't PM.[/QUOTE]Pay for the membership to PM. It's worth it.
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Thanks
What an awesome trip. Thanks for sharing brother!
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I'll be in Cartagena starting Saturday for about 10 days, hanging at the Playa Hollywood. It's q little like the hotel California. You never know what you going to find there.
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Dry Law during election.
Was in Tierra Bomba at Punta Arena on Sunday and it was business as usual. Drinks were flowing with no restrictions despite the Dry Law. No problem. Also I was able to get to Exito before 6 pm on Saturday to stock up on alcohol. Heavy police presence in the city. I was told of some clandestine bars in the city that were serving alcohol.
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[QUOTE=Hellooh;2691731]First of all, I would like to thank the members of this forum for providing some useful information that helped me roam around Cartagena with friends. I have read through many posts and the information was very useful.
So after reading the forum posts for over a month straight, I was ready for my Cartagena adventure with my amigos. I actually was so excited, I could not sleep the night before my departure.
So we get to CTG airport and it was packed with people, waiting in the line to clear immigration. It took about 2.5 hours as there was a flight landed before ours and there was one that arrived after ours. Very slow immigration but was worth every minute because of so much this city has to offer.
After finishing immigration, got a taxi for 20,000 Colombian pesos (you say 20 mil pesos) to our rented place in old city near all bars and restaurants. We check into our place and get booze and snacks from local grocery store Exito, which was around walking distance. We pre drink at our place and head out to a bar. By the time we finish our drinks and eat, it was around 9 and we head out to Alquimico, which has a roof top bar and great atmosphere and hiphop music playing. We met these beautiful girls who were visiting from Europe, did some dancing and they agreed to come to our place for after party. We ended up smashing them doing 4 some with my colleague. It was my first time but after that there was no shame and it set the tone for rest of the trip of what's coming. We ended the night and girls ended up staying with us till the morning.[/QUOTE]Hey man,
This is really great info. Any chance you mind sharing where you stayed? It'll be my first trip to Cartagena and I am having shit luck finding a place that is guest friendly. Literally every owner I've reached out to is like NO guests, no visitors, building rules. It's frustrating because I am prospecting and already have 3 that are cool with hanging but the damn places are all like nope. Or am I being a noob and this is a rule I can ignore? One of them told me a lot of buildings are not allowing any visitors at all due to covid and that I should look at the Sonesta but man that's far form the city. I would have PM'd ya but it doesn't look like you can accept PMs. Appreciate any tips / info. And yes, I'm ferociously reading as many reports as I can to try and see if I can arrive at an answer. LOL.
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[QUOTE=OnFireBoy;2698993]For those who are interested I have two university girls available, they need money to pay for the semester, information and photos by private message.[/QUOTE]On Fire Boy,
I joined this site today expecting to upgrade to a paid membership so I could PM you and others on this site. But you have to send cash to upgrade (I don't have Bitcoin), which is fine by me but will take about a week to activate. I plan to be in Cartagena this weekend and would love to take you up on your offer of two university girls. Is there any other way we can chat and exchange information about this? I know private emailing is not allowed. Please let me know since I feel a situation as you described would be very enjoyable. Thank you in advance.
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[QUOTE=MocosGuey;2703434]Hey man,
This is really great info. Any chance you mind sharing where you stayed? It'll be my first trip to Cartagena and I am having shit luck finding a place that is guest friendly. Literally every owner I've reached out to is like NO guests, no visitors, building rules. It's frustrating because I am prospecting and already have 3 that are cool with hanging but the damn places are all like nope. Or am I being a noob and this is a rule I can ignore? One of them told me a lot of buildings are not allowing any visitors at all due to covid and that I should look at the Sonesta but man that's far form the city. I would have PM'd ya but it doesn't look like you can accept PMs. Appreciate any tips / info. And yes, I'm ferociously reading as many reports as I can to try and see if I can arrive at an answer. LOL.[/QUOTE]Chances are, you are too late unless your trip is months out.
You cannot ignore the house rules. They have the right to cancel your reservation and put you out on the street with no refund.
Guest friendly places get booked months in advance.
Always look for houses, not apartments, but since its your first trip you may want something with security incase things get out of hand but most of those places do not allow guests. I know of two in El Laguito that allow guests with security.
Palmetto Beach in Boca Grande allow visitors.
Palmetto Sunset in El Laguito allow visitors but only between 10 am - 9:30 pm and 12 am - 5 am. I would not recommend it but its an option.
Marriot Emrita allows visitors.
Oz Hotel allows visitors but you will be paying American prices, there is a surcharge per chica and its always booked.
I know of a few places around Centro, Getsemani, and El Laguito all visitor friendly no security but they are usually booked and geared more toward a 2 man trip. 2 bedrooms 2/3 bathrooms, pool, etc and priced accordingly.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2703608]Chances are, you are too late unless your trip is months out.
You cannot ignore the house rules. They have the right to cancel your reservation and put you out on the street with no refund.
Guest friendly places get booked months in advance.
Always look for houses, not apartments, but since its your first trip you may want something with security incase things get out of hand but most of those places do not allow guests. I know of two in El Laguito that allow guests with security.
Palmetto Beach in Boca Grande allow visitors.
Palmetto Sunset in El Laguito allow visitors but only between 10 am - 9:30 pm and 12 am - 5 am. I would not recommend it but its an option.
Marriot Emrita allows visitors.
Oz Hotel allows visitors but you will be paying American prices, there is a surcharge per chica and its always booked.
I know of a few places around Centro, Getsemani, and El Laguito all visitor friendly no security but they are usually booked and geared more toward a 2 man trip. 2 bedrooms 2/3 bathrooms, pool, etc and priced accordingly.[/QUOTE]Nypher you rock man. Thanks so much for the info. Going with the 2 br in San Diego I think it'll be perfect for me and my partner in crime. Ol' girl will just have to come down from boquilla.
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Hotel in / near Cartagena
Long time senior member over at the USA forum traveling to Colombia (hitting MDE first then CTG) starting tomorrow. I've looked all over this thread, the hotels / rental and lists thread but couldn't find any reliable / current information on a decent hotel (non-Airbnb, security, pool / jacuzzi, breakfast, etc) that is chica friendly. I would prefer to stay on / near the beach since this will be my "relaxing" portion of the trip. Would appreciate any advice given and if you are in the area will buy you a few beers! Paid subscription so can accept PM's also.
Thanks.
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The boom box? Jaja
[QUOTE=Kafka;2704450]One thing I'll never understand is a brothers come down here with the boom oxedd blast bigger this nigger that all over the beach. Seriously.[/QUOTE]This is why I try to avoid Hollywood Beach by Kiosk #4 but that's where all the girls are so it's a no win if we're hunting.
Last time I was there these guys rolled in with a Bluetooth boombox speaker the size of a toddler, they had to put it in its own chair. And was blasting music drowning out everyone else music.
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Boomin brothers
[QUOTE=Kafka;2704450]One thing I'll never understand is a brothers come down here with the boom oxedd blast bigger this nigger that all over the beach. Seriously.[/QUOTE]You can take the boy out of the hood but you can't take the hood out of the boy.
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Quick trip report
[QUOTE=Mia305;2704413]Long time senior member over at the USA forum traveling to Colombia (hitting MDE first then CTG) starting tomorrow. I've looked all over this thread, the hotels / rental and lists thread but couldn't find any reliable / current information on a decent hotel (non-Airbnb, security, pool / jacuzzi, breakfast, etc) that is chica friendly. I would prefer to stay on / near the beach since this will be my "relaxing" portion of the trip. Would appreciate any advice given and if you are in the area will buy you a few beers! Paid subscription so can accept PM's also.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hey man, there's at least 100,1 or 2 Br Airbnb listings in Bocagrande overlooking the beach, but you have to put in the effort to contact the host and make sure about visitors. I would still say at least 40%, there's no issues, so not sure why it's difficult.
Quick trip report (geared more for newbs):
Landed Wednesday (here till Sunday). Got a chica both day time and night time, each day so far.
I had some contacts from last time so used those for day time, but best strategy is to get whatsapp #'s at night, and hit them up the next day. Day time rate is still the standard 300,000 mill, give or take 50,000 depending on the quality of the girl and your negotiation skills. This is for a one time leche for one hour. I see people on here swear by tinder and other online sources like FB and SA. I would recommend against it; the girls are almost always never as hot or attractive when they show up as their pictures. Not sure why people waste their time hours upon hours online when you can literally approach 200 girls in one night and get their phone #s after actually psychically meeting them. But, to each their own. For my night sessions, my friends and I have been making deals for about 5-6 hours, 2 leches, 600,000-700,000 mill. We usually bring them home by midnight, party it up, jazcuzzi. Etc, and they leave around 5. Always make this clear before you bring them home; tell them the price, your preferences in bed (standard is with condom and minimal foreplay, so clarify) , number of leches, and tell them an exact time they can leave- don't by shy about this part. It seems more girls have recently started asking for money upfront, but when you make your deal in the club, tell them you will pay half before each leche. If your deal doesn't contain these clarities, lot of chicas will try to flake out after the first leche and would have already pocketed the entire amount, and I guarantee if you don't do this, it doesn't end well for you on most nights.
La Dolce Vita- still has the hottest chicks of all the clubs. At least 50+ girls each night after 10:00-10:30 pm.
Space- IMO, has the best music and the best design for adequate room and private tables. Also has 40-50 girls after 10:00 pm.
Delirium- prolly wouldn't go there again, because there is no space to even move around, insanely crowded and not well lit. All the brothers go here, but most of them are pretty chill.
Clock tower square- not as many chicas as there used to be, but still at least about 20. Lot of tables and tents setup past couple days for what seems like a flea market.
Some other points-.
-no point to go to the clubs after 11:30 on Friday Saturday. Wayyyy too crowded. Finish your deal by 11:00.
-of my 6 girls so far, the 3 vennie sessions were the best. That will be my new target.
-drinks are now insanely expensive at the clubs, equal to or higher then American prices.
-there is a very nice, spacious, newer hookah bar across delirium. It was dead on Wednesday and Thursday, but had surprisingly about 15-20 girls Friday night.
-Imperio club across Space was dead Wednesday and Thursday- didn't check on Friday.
-in 3 trips, visited playa Hollywood for the first time on a Thursday afternoon, wasn't too impressed with the talent. Looking forward to tomorrow for my usual boat trips to playa blanca, baru, etc. Just picked a girl I've already been with on this trip and negotiated 750,000 for the whole boat day and night as well with minimum of 3 leches.
Scheduled a covid test for in-home test, but it cost $60.
Will add more info soon after the trip.
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Cartagena trip report
Just came back from a week stay in Colombia. Did 4 days in Medellin and 4 days on Cartagena. I'm a do the Cartagena review first then do a Medellin review tomorrow.
First time and Cartagena and I must say the beauties here were great. Crazy thing is I didn't even get the full Cartagena experience because of the elections. It was illegal to serve alcohol and the clubs were closed. I only got 1 night to actually experience Cartagena nightlife. The beauties hang out in the clubs and I seen more beauties in delirium then dolce Vita. Prices in Cartagena for drinks and ladies were more expensive then in Medellin but the vibe was a little better so I didn't mind. Ladies start off quoting 150 or 100 but it can be negotiated. 1 chick wanted 150 and wouldn't budge off that price. I didn't pull the trigger not cause of the money but off the principle of the matter LOL. I had this one though that looked and was built like a young Cherokee. I had her a couple times and we hung out on some chill stuff before I left.
I stayed in a air be and be off the beach and had hotel el varejo Centro as a smash spot. It was cheap with air and around the corner from all the action and guest friendly.
I took ubers everywhere because there cheaper and I trust them more then taxis. I've learned when overseas stay away from taxis if possible this has not steered me wrong so far.
One thing I have to talk about to help protect another brother is how to avoid scams in the beach. I grew up in urban Detroit so I know the game when it comes to hustlers and finnesers. As the saying goes you can't hustle a Hustler. Was at playa Blanca beach when a tourist group pulled upm I watched the vendors point out a brother and say my brother my friend. When you hear that naturally your antennas should up LOL. But they asked him to come sit on there spot at the beach. He asked how much and they said don't worry about it come sit. He sits and a older ladies comes and massages his feet. He says no but they continue to do it anyway. Long story short they told him he owed the massage lady 300 mil and the tent 500 mil. That's like 75 use for massage and 125 to sit in a damn chair. When overseas always get the price before hand never fall for that it's ok don't worry about it. I never run a tab either I usually pay after I get my product or my service.
The beach vendors didn't bother me though. I've mastered saying no and acting like you don't exist if you still trying to talk to me. They go away after that. Overall though I highly recommend Cartagena. Beautiful women good food and more activities to do outside of drinking and smashing. I got it under Brazil but ahead of Dr in my personal opinion. Any questions or anything feel free to hit me up.
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Nice report. Looks like Cartagena is getting more expensive by the month. I've been to CTG probably six times since late 2018 I remember when daytime was 150 k and 300 k was getting you TLNs. Things adjust and it seems the going rate is 300 k for a leche smfh. For newbies reading this do not pay before hand in any amount there is no advantage to this and only setting yourself up to be scammed. There is no reason a chic would request upfront payment unless she intends to scam you. You are a foreigner you were able to afford to travel to Cartagena, rent an Airbnb and pop bottles in the club but now they are worried you won't pay them it doesn't make sense? Do not pay any amount upfront and if I chick insist kick her out. Another piece of advice that's worked for me is not negotiating time. I see you paid chicks 700 k peso for a couple hours and two leches. I've literally done the same and only payed 300 k with the only negotiation being two leches if you have party favors and a jacuzzi / pool they don't want to leave. But to each their own. Ill be back in cartagena in two weeks.
[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2704694]Hey man, there's at least 100,1 or 2 Br Airbnb listings in Bocagrande overlooking the beach, but you have to put in the effort to contact the host and make sure about visitors. I would still say at least 40%, there's no issues, so not sure why it's difficult.
Quick trip report (geared more for newbs):
Landed Wednesday (here till Sunday). Got a chica both day time and night time, each day so far.
I had some contacts from last time so used those for day time, but best strategy is to get whatsapp #'s at night, and hit them up the next day. Day time rate is still the standard 300,000 mill, give or take 50,000 depending on the quality of the girl and your negotiation skills. This is for a one time leche for one hour. I see people on here swear by tinder and other online sources like FB and SA. I would recommend against it; the girls are almost always never as hot or attractive when they show up as their pictures. Not sure why people waste their time hours upon hours online when you can literally approach 200 girls in one night and get their phone #s after actually psychically meeting them. But, to each their own. For my night sessions, my friends and I have been making deals for about 5-6 hours, 2 leches, 600,000-700,000 mill. We usually bring them home by midnight, party it up, jazcuzzi. Etc, and they leave around 5. Always make this clear before you bring them home; tell them the price, your preferences in bed (standard is with condom and minimal foreplay, so clarify) , number of leches, and tell them an exact time they can leave- don't by shy about this part. It seems more girls have recently started asking for money upfront, but when you make your deal in the club, tell them you will pay half before each leche. If your deal doesn't contain these clarities, lot of chicas will try to flake out after the first leche and would have already pocketed the entire amount, and I guarantee if you don't do this, it doesn't end well for you on most nights.
La Dolce Vita- still has the hottest chicks of all the clubs. At least 50+ girls each night after 10:00-10:30 pm.
Space- IMO, has the best music and the best design for adequate room and private tables. Also has 40-50 girls after 10:00 pm.
Delirium- prolly wouldn't go there again, because there is no space to even move around, insanely crowded and not well lit. All the brothers go here, but most of them are pretty chill.
Clock tower square- not as many chicas as there used to be, but still at least about 20. Lot of tables and tents setup past couple days for what seems like a flea market.
Some other points-.
-no point to go to the clubs after 11:30 on Friday Saturday. Wayyyy too crowded. Finish your deal by 11:00.
-of my 6 girls so far, the 3 vennie sessions were the best. That will be my new target.
-drinks are now insanely expensive at the clubs, equal to or higher then American prices.
-there is a very nice, spacious, newer hookah bar across delirium. It was dead on Wednesday and Thursday, but had surprisingly about 15-20 girls Friday night.
-Imperio club across Space was dead Wednesday and Thursday- didn't check on Friday.
-in 3 trips, visited playa Hollywood for the first time on a Thursday afternoon, wasn't too impressed with the talent. Looking forward to tomorrow for my usual boat trips to playa blanca, baru, etc. Just picked a girl I've already been with on this trip and negotiated 750,000 for the whole boat day and night as well with minimum of 3 leches.
Scheduled a covid test for in-home test, but it cost $60.
Will add more info soon after the trip.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=CkNice11;2704886] Ladies start off quoting 150 or 100 but it can be negotiated. 1 chick wanted 150 and wouldn't budge off that price. I didn't pull the trigger not cause of the money but off the principle of the matter LOL. [/QUOTE]Is that 150 USD or Euros or Mil Pesos?
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Agreed about playa blanca- you've been warned
[QUOTE=CkNice11;2704886]Just came back from a week stay in Colombia. Did 4 days in Medellin and 4 days on Cartagena. I'm a do the Cartagena review first then do a Medellin review tomorrow.
First time and Cartagena and I must say the beauties here were great. Crazy thing is I didn't even get the full Cartagena experience because of the elections. It was illegal to serve alcohol and the clubs were closed. I only got 1 night to actually experience Cartagena nightlife. The beauties hang out in the clubs and I seen more beauties in delirium then dolce Vita. Prices in Cartagena for drinks and ladies were more expensive then in Medellin but the vibe was a little better so I didn't mind. Ladies start off quoting 150 or 100 but it can be negotiated. 1 chick wanted 150 and wouldn't budge off that price. I didn't pull the trigger not cause of the money but off the principle of the matter LOL. I had this one though that looked and was built like a young Cherokee. I had her a couple times and we hung out on some chill stuff before I left.
I stayed in a air be and be off the beach and had hotel el varejo Centro as a smash spot. It was cheap with air and around the corner from all the action and guest friendly.
I took ubers everywhere because there cheaper and I trust them more then taxis. I've learned when overseas stay away from taxis if possible this has not steered me wrong so far.
One thing I have to talk about to help protect another brother is how to avoid scams in the beach. I grew up in urban Detroit so I know the game when it comes to hustlers and finnesers. As the saying goes you can't hustle a Hustler. Was at playa Blanca beach when a tourist group pulled upm I watched the vendors point out a brother and say my brother my friend. When you hear that naturally your antennas should up LOL. But they asked him to come sit on there spot at the beach. He asked how much and they said don't worry about it come sit. He sits and a older ladies comes and massages his feet. He says no but they continue to do it anyway. Long story short they told him he owed the massage lady 300 mil and the tent 500 mil. That's like 75 use for massage and 125 to sit in a damn chair. When overseas always get the price before hand never fall for that it's ok don't worry about it. I never run a tab either I usually pay after I get my product or my service.
The beach vendors didn't bother me though. I've mastered saying no and acting like you don't exist if you still trying to talk to me. They go away after that. Overall though I highly recommend Cartagena. Beautiful women good food and more activities to do outside of drinking and smashing. I got it under Brazil but ahead of Dr in my personal opinion. Any questions or anything feel free to hit me up.[/QUOTE]I just got back from playa blanca and the other beaches about to.
10 min ago. If you're a newb and you're reading this, as this poster mentioned below, assume every single person that approaches you is a scammer; the masseuse, the chair guy, the beer guy, the jet ski guy. Assume every word is a scam. You've been fully warned. Try to never use a middle man for anything, go buy your own food and beer if you need to. Bring your own beer cooler and don't acknowledge one word from any stranger. I'm very desensitized to this, but I do feel bad for the newbs visiting playa blanca.
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[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2704694]Hey man, there's at least 100,1 or 2 Br Airbnb listings in Bocagrande overlooking the beach, but you have to put in the effort to contact the host and make sure about visitors. I would still say at least 40%, there's no issues, so not sure why it's difficult.
Quick trip report (geared more for newbs):
Landed Wednesday (here till Sunday). Got a chica both day time and night time, each day so far.
I had some contacts from last time so used those for day time, but best strategy is to get whatsapp #'s at night, and hit them up the next day. Day time rate is still the standard 300,000 mill, give or take 50,000 depending on the quality of the girl and your negotiation skills. This is for a one time leche for one hour. I see people on here swear by tinder and other online sources like FB and SA. I would recommend against it; the girls are almost always never as hot or attractive when they show up as their pictures. Not sure why people waste their time hours upon hours online when you can literally approach 200 girls in one night and get their phone #s after actually psychically meeting them. But, to each their own. For my night sessions, my friends and I have been making deals for about 5-6 hours, 2 leches, 600,000-700,000 mill. We usually bring them home by midnight, party it up, jazcuzzi. Etc, and they leave around 5. Always make this clear before you bring them home; tell them the price, your preferences in bed (standard is with condom and minimal foreplay, so clarify) , number of leches, and tell them an exact time they can leave- don't by shy about this part. It seems more girls have recently started asking for money upfront, but when you make your deal in the club, tell them you will pay half before each leche. If your deal doesn't contain these clarities, lot of chicas will try to flake out after the first leche and would have already pocketed the entire amount, and I guarantee if you don't do this, it doesn't end well for you on most nights.
La Dolce Vita- still has the hottest chicks of all the clubs. At least 50+ girls each night after 10:00-10:30 pm.
Space- IMO, has the best music and the best design for adequate room and private tables. Also has 40-50 girls after 10:00 pm.
Delirium- prolly wouldn't go there again, because there is no space to even move around, insanely crowded and not well lit. All the brothers go here, but most of them are pretty chill.
Clock tower square- not as many chicas as there used to be, but still at least about 20. Lot of tables and tents setup past couple days for what seems like a flea market.
Some other points-.
-no point to go to the clubs after 11:30 on Friday Saturday. Wayyyy too crowded. Finish your deal by 11:00.
-of my 6 girls so far, the 3 vennie sessions were the best. That will be my new target.
-drinks are now insanely expensive at the clubs, equal to or higher then American prices.
-there is a very nice, spacious, newer hookah bar across delirium. It was dead on Wednesday and Thursday, but had surprisingly about 15-20 girls Friday night.
-Imperio club across Space was dead Wednesday and Thursday- didn't check on Friday.
-in 3 trips, visited playa Hollywood for the first time on a Thursday afternoon, wasn't too impressed with the talent. Looking forward to tomorrow for my usual boat trips to playa blanca, baru, etc. Just picked a girl I've already been with on this trip and negotiated 750,000 for the whole boat day and night as well with minimum of 3 leches.
Scheduled a covid test for in-home test, but it cost $60.
Will add more info soon after the trip.[/QUOTE]Some additional pointers for newbs who need questions answered:
-never ever exchange your money at the airport, only like $20 if you need for taxi like I did. Saw a young couple exchange 1500 $ in front of me, felt so bad for them. Airport is giving 3100, local cambios are giving 3700 right now. ATMs are also a smart safe option.
-taxis are Ok to use IMO, paid 20,000 mill from airport to laguito, and 15,000 mill from lagutio to centro and vice versa every time. Couple times I paid 10,000 to go to bocagrande. You should never ever pay more then 15,000 other then airport. Always negotiate before leaving. Taxis are too conveniently and too readily available to me, rather then wait for an uber. But that's a personal preference.
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La dolce vita update plus Robbery update
Saturday night- let my day time boat girl go home at 7:00 pm after showering and only 2 leches. She's was good though and is on my repeat list. Vennie of course. Paid her 750,000 and 20,000 tip.
About LDV, what I read on here couple weeks ago is true. They denied us entry into LDV unless we were going to get bottle service! And honestly, what's even crazier is, the doorman didn't even take a 50,000 mill bribe to let us in without bottle service!! I was mind blown by this guy. I assume this bottle service BS is for Friday-Saturday. They loosely tried to enforce it Friday night, but we sort of begged our way in, and they let it slide. But tonight, Saturday night, we had already came out from space, got denied at LDV, so ended up getting girls from Delrium. Similar deals between 4 of us .600,000-750,000 for 5-6 hours, 2-3 leches.
P. S- I know some people most likely feel I'm over paying for girls, but I only come here for 4-5 days at a time per year and only get girls who are 8+,9+, and usually always from the clubs so far. You guys may be able to find better deals on the street and local beaches, but I can't speak to that.
I wasn't going to post this part for anonymity purposes amongst my friends, but will share for why'all benefit and awareness.
So I got robbed tonight- first time ever in my life, and first time ever in my trips to Cartagena / Medellin / Costa Rica / DR / mexico. I picked up a girl from delirium, and based on my experience from the previous 3 nights, decided against taking a taxi from in front of the club due to insane traffic inside the walls. My friends and I discussed doing this the night before as we were so frustrated with the traffic. So I decided to walk back out to the main clock tower entrance for a taxi. As you may know delrium is only one block from the clock tower square, so it's surprising this can happen. I was walking with my girl to the main clock tower entrance. The problem was (and this was 100% my fault) I was texting while walking, texting my friend who was coming from space to meet at the clock tower entrance with his girl (our other two friends shared a taxi with their girls), so it was two of us left, sharing a taxi. I was walking with my girl and texting my friend, and was about halfway between delirium and the clock tower square (same street as delrium) and all of a sudden, I feel my neck get yanked. Some guy ran from behind me, and in one motion swiped my gold chain from around my neck and ran off into the clock tower square. I was in such shock, I didn't even chase him. Couple good samaritans tried helping by explaining to the police what happened, but at that point I was even skeptical of them and was so shocked and frustrated, I wanted to leave after talking to the police for about 3-4 minutes.
Yes, this has my own fault written all over. Never ever be texting in public. I also didn't wear my ring on this trip, but didn't bother to leave the chain at home. I never intentionally ever wear my chain outside of my t-shirt, but obvs sometimes it's hanging outside without my knowledge. So that's two faults of my own. However, big learning lesson for all of us, still frustrating, but I'm over it now, because it's only money, could have been 100 x worse. Please be careful guys!!
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[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2705040]Saturday night- let my day time boat girl go home at 7:00 pm after showering and only 2 leches. She's was good though and is on my repeat list. Vennie of course. Paid her 750,000 and 20,000 tip.
About LDV, what I read on here couple weeks ago is true. They denied us entry into LDV unless we were going to get bottle service! And honestly, what's even crazier is, the doorman didn't even take a 50,000 mill bribe to let us in without bottle service!! I was mind blown by this guy. I assume this bottle service BS is for Friday-Saturday. They loosely tried to enforce it Friday night, but we sort of begged our way in, and they let it slide. But tonight, Saturday night, we had already came out from space, got denied at LDV, so ended up getting girls from Delrium. Similar deals between 4 of us .600,000-750,000 for 5-6 hours, 2-3 leches.
P. S- I know some people most likely feel I'm over paying for girls, but I only come here for 4-5 days at a time per year and only get girls who are 8+,9+, and usually always from the clubs so far. You guys may be able to find better deals on the street and local beaches, but I can't speak to that.
I wasn't going to post this part for anonymity purposes amongst my friends, but will share for why'all benefit and awareness.
So I got robbed tonight- first time ever in my life, and first time ever in my trips to Cartagena / Medellin / Costa Rica / DR / mexico. I picked up a girl from delirium, and based on my experience from the previous 3 nights, decided against taking a taxi from in front of the club due to insane traffic inside the walls. My friends and I discussed doing this the night before as we were so frustrated with the traffic. So I decided to walk back out to the main clock tower entrance for a taxi. As you may know delrium is only one block from the clock tower square, so it's surprising this can happen. I was walking with my girl to the main clock tower entrance. The problem was (and this was 100% my fault) I was texting while walking, texting my friend who was coming from space to meet at the clock tower entrance with his girl (our other two friends shared a taxi with their girls), so it was two of us left, sharing a taxi. I was walking with my girl and texting my friend, and was about halfway between delirium and the clock tower square (same street as delrium) and all of a sudden, I feel my neck get yanked. Some guy ran from behind me, and in one motion swiped my gold chain from around my neck and ran off into the clock tower square. I was in such shock, I didn't even chase him. Couple good samaritans tried helping by explaining to the police what happened, but at that point I was even skeptical of them and was so shocked and frustrated, I wanted to leave after talking to the police for about 3-4 minutes.
Yes, this has my own fault written all over. Never ever be texting in public. I also didn't wear my ring on this trip, but didn't bother to leave the chain at home. I never intentionally ever wear my chain outside of my t-shirt, but obvs sometimes it's hanging outside without my knowledge. So that's two faults of my own. However, big learning lesson for all of us, still frustrating, but I'm over it now, because it's only money, could have been 100 x worse. Please be careful guys!![/QUOTE]Yes, the LDV denial of entry unless you get a bottle is very real, and this comes from someone who goes there for weeks at a time and 90% of the time I'm there they always pull that BS with me so I just text my girl to come out and we go elsewhere.
Yes, you are overpaying at 600 K to 750 K for 5-6 hours but that's on you, your pockets, your choice, just avoid any bidding wars with other mongers. The downside of this is that those same girls go on to expect the next gringo to pay the same. The ones who are grandfathered in with pre inflation pricing aren't affected, it will be the new mongers it will effect. I've had new girls in Space tell me 1000 K for the night and said it was disrespectful for me to give her such a low offer of 600 K for the night. Long story short, I just text one of my girls who mainly works Delirium to come over to space, and we just had our fun and left back to the apartment. Meanwhile she's was just sitting there on the couch trying to get peoples attention.
Be careful in Delirium as that's where they said the girls were drugging and robbing gringos. , there are only 2 girls I trust in there. One whose very small who looks like she's still on the school bus, can't miss her, she's the smallest girl in the club, and the other with "Yes Daddy" tattooed on her chest, she's cool AF but went a little overboard with all the damn tattoos so now she looks hood / ratchet. All the others I'm highly skeptical of.
Rating a girl 8+, 9+ is 100% subjective as I've seen mongers walk out of Delirium with things that look like a man wearing a wig who got ass implants and the monger has the biggest grin on his face so hes happy with what he got and could be a 10 in his book. Same with women 200+ pounds with elbow titties, so its all 100% subjective when it comes to rating.
You are correct one again about being robbed. Stop and ask yourself a few logical questions.
What was the purpose of wearing jewelry in a third world country where there is allot of poverty and no one cares how good you dress, they only care how much money you can give them to survive? Why even bring it to a third word country?
Look around you, do you see any locals wearing jewelry?
What time did you leave the club? These people are constantly watching you and its not a matter of "if" but a matter of "when". The more we take part in these activities the more of a probability it will happen to us.
The thig is most of us do not learn until it happens to us, and some of us still don't learn even after it happens. Even now friends tell me I'm crazy having girls stay over and I should just do my thing and put them out, and I'm telling them I've known them for years, if they wanted to steal something from me they would have by now. Watch me be the same guy years from now telling my friends " yo, I can't believe she got me and took all my shit" jajaja.
The best you can do is take the L and don't let it ruin the rest of your trip as it was just a chain, not your phone or passport so its still a W in my book.
Enjoy the rest of your time there. Ill be there next month when AirBB and flight prices are more normal.
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[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2705040]Saturday night- let my day time boat girl go home at 7:00 pm after showering and only 2 leches. She's was good though and is on my repeat list. Vennie of course. Paid her 750,000 and 20,000 tip.
About LDV, what I read on here couple weeks ago is true. They denied us entry into LDV unless we were going to get bottle service! And honestly, what's even crazier is, the doorman didn't even take a 50,000 mill bribe to let us in without bottle service!! I was mind blown by this guy. I assume this bottle service BS is for Friday-Saturday. They loosely tried to enforce it Friday night, but we sort of begged our way in, and they let it slide. But tonight, Saturday night, we had already came out from space, got denied at LDV, so ended up getting girls from Delrium. Similar deals between 4 of us .600,000-750,000 for 5-6 hours, 2-3 leches.
P. S- I know some people most likely feel I'm over paying for girls, but I only come here for 4-5 days at a time per year and only get girls who are 8+,9+, and usually always from the clubs so far. You guys may be able to find better deals on the street and local beaches, but I can't speak to that.
I wasn't going to post this part for anonymity purposes amongst my friends, but will share for why'all benefit and awareness.
So I got robbed tonight- first time ever in my life, and first time ever in my trips to Cartagena / Medellin / Costa Rica / DR / mexico. I picked up a girl from delirium, and based on my experience from the previous 3 nights, decided against taking a taxi from in front of the club due to insane traffic inside the walls. My friends and I discussed doing this the night before as we were so frustrated with the traffic. So I decided to walk back out to the main clock tower entrance for a taxi. As you may know delrium is only one block from the clock tower square, so it's surprising this can happen. I was walking with my girl to the main clock tower entrance. The problem was (and this was 100% my fault) I was texting while walking, texting my friend who was coming from space to meet at the clock tower entrance with his girl (our other two friends shared a taxi with their girls), so it was two of us left, sharing a taxi. I was walking with my girl and texting my friend, and was about halfway between delirium and the clock tower square (same street as delrium) and all of a sudden, I feel my neck get yanked. Some guy ran from behind me, and in one motion swiped my gold chain from around my neck and ran off into the clock tower square. I was in such shock, I didn't even chase him. Couple good samaritans tried helping by explaining to the police what happened, but at that point I was even skeptical of them and was so shocked and frustrated, I wanted to leave after talking to the police for about 3-4 minutes.
Yes, this has my own fault written all over. Never ever be texting in public. I also didn't wear my ring on this trip, but didn't bother to leave the chain at home. I never intentionally ever wear my chain outside of my t-shirt, but obvs sometimes it's hanging outside without my knowledge. So that's two faults of my own. However, big learning lesson for all of us, still frustrating, but I'm over it now, because it's only money, could have been 100 x worse. Please be careful guys!![/QUOTE]Sorry this happened to you but you did put this on yourself. Your paying girls $200 dollars when the going rate is $60-80. The girls talk to each other and to the local guys. Someone probably was like that guy and his group have $$ because he offered 200 $. So they think robbing you is no big deal. Overpaying is bringing unwanted attention.
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[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2704921]-taxis are Ok to use IMO, paid 20,000 mill from airport to laguito, and 15,000 mill from lagutio to centro and vice versa every time. Couple times I paid 10,000 to go to bocagrande. You should never ever pay more then 15,000 other then airport. Always negotiate before leaving. Taxis are too conveniently and too readily available to me, rather then wait for an uber. But that's a personal preference.[/QUOTE]Walk 2 blocks from the airport and the price is 5,000 mil cheaper to anywhere. Or get dropped off at the pharmacy store on the corner and walk the block to the airport. Taxi drivers pay 5,000 mil for the right to access the airport and pass it on to you.
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[QUOTE=SteelDh;2705188]Sorry this happened to you but you did put this on yourself. Your paying girls $200 dollars when the going rate is $60-80. The girls talk to each other and to the local guys. Someone probably was like that guy and his group have $$ because he offered 200 $. So they think robbing you is no big deal. Overpaying is bringing unwanted attention.[/QUOTE]Yup. A guy playing big shot and overpaying attracts the wrong kind of attention. The girls all have male friends who are more than happy to relieve you of cash.
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[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2705272]Walk 2 blocks from the airport and the price is 5,000 mil cheaper to anywhere. Or get dropped off at the pharmacy store on the corner and walk the block to the airport. Taxi drivers pay 5,000 mil for the right to access the airport and pass it on to you.[/QUOTE]To save $1.30? No thanks.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2705164]The thig is most of us do not learn until it happens to us, and some of us still don't learn even after it happens. Even now friends tell me I'm crazy having girls stay over and I should just do my thing and put them out, and I'm telling them I've known them for years, if they wanted to steal something from me they would have by now. Watch me be the same guy years from now telling my friends " yo, I can't believe she got me and took all my shit" jajaja.[/QUOTE]Happened to a guy in Sosua. He was comfortable with a chick he had known for years so he left her in his room while he went out for a jog. Came back, safe was open, she was gone.
That brother is something else. Newb this, newb that. My fault because I was texting. Never considering it had nothing to do with the texting, but the fact that, as you said, having jewelry in a third world country is a dumb idea. Leave that shit home! I got some jewelry for your ass, but when I leave the States there is only one piece that I bring. (And of course I carry a gun everyday in the States.).
Up until the end I actually thought he was going to say his phone got snatched. I was like damn they karate chopped my man's neck and took his phone. It was a surprise ending to me that he was wearing jewelry. He better quit the texting out in the open or next time it WILL be his phone. You have been warned.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2705164]Yes, the LDV denial of entry unless you get a bottle is very real, and this comes from someone who goes there for weeks at a time and 90% of the time I'm there they always pull that BS with me so I just text my girl to come out and we go elsewhere.
Yes, you are overpaying at 600 K to 750 K for 5-6 hours but that's on you, your pockets, your choice, just avoid any bidding wars with other mongers. The downside of this is that those same girls go on to expect the next gringo to pay the same. The ones who are grandfathered in with pre inflation pricing aren't affected, it will be the new mongers it will effect. I've had new girls in Space tell me 1000 K for the night and said it was disrespectful for me to give her such a low offer of 600 K for the night. Long story short, I just text one of my girls who mainly works Delirium to come over to space, and we just had our fun and left back to the apartment. Meanwhile she's was just sitting there on the couch trying to get peoples attention.
Be careful in Delirium as that's where they said the girls were drugging and robbing gringos. , there are only 2 girls I trust in there. One whose very small who looks like she's still on the school bus, can't miss her, she's the smallest girl in the club, and the other with "Yes Daddy" tattooed on her chest, she's cool AF but went a little overboard with all the damn tattoos so now she looks hood / ratchet. All the others I'm highly skeptical of.
Rating a girl 8+, 9+ is 100% subjective as I've seen mongers walk out of Delirium with things that look like a man wearing a wig who got ass implants and the monger has the biggest grin on his face so hes happy with what he got and could be a 10 in his book. Same with women 200+ pounds with elbow titties, so its all 100% subjective when it comes to rating.
You are correct one again about being robbed. Stop and ask yourself a few logical questions.
What was the purpose of wearing jewelry in a third world country where there is allot of poverty and no one cares how good you dress, they only care how much money you can give them to survive? Why even bring it to a third word country?
Look around you, do you see any locals wearing jewelry?
What time did you leave the club? These people are constantly watching you and its not a matter of "if" but a matter of "when". The more we take part in these activities the more of a probability it will happen to us.
The thig is most of us do not learn until it happens to us, and some of us still don't learn even after it happens. Even now friends tell me I'm crazy having girls stay over and I should just do my thing and put them out, and I'm telling them I've known them for years, if they wanted to steal something from me they would have by now. Watch me be the same guy years from now telling my friends " yo, I can't believe she got me and took all my shit" jajaja.
The best you can do is take the L and don't let it ruin the rest of your trip as it was just a chain, not your phone or passport so its still a W in my book.
Enjoy the rest of your time there. Ill be there next month when AirBB and flight prices are more normal.[/QUOTE]I agree with all of your feedback. I left the club around around 11:30 pm. Again, insane- there's so much people at that time. I just took it for granted having already been to CtG a few times. Never ever text and having your head in the phone is the most basic common sense- I subconsciously felt like because the girl was walking next to me, I had some level of protection, as they usually tell off peddlers on your behalf. If I was walking by myself, zero chance I would have been texting. But like we agreed, lot of lessons learned here, it's only money. Thanks for the advice and carrying this forum lately.
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[QUOTE=SteelDh;2705188]Sorry this happened to you but you did put this on yourself. Your paying girls $200 dollars when the going rate is $60-80. The girls talk to each other and to the local guys. Someone probably was like that guy and his group have $$ because he offered 200 $. So they think robbing you is no big deal. Overpaying is bringing unwanted attention.[/QUOTE]This part I disagree with to some extent. I'm a club monger, so no, the going rate is never $60-$80 for 6 hours and multiple leches. For Colombia in general, yes you are correct, but different market, different prices. Think of NYC vs albany. If you propose 6 hours and 2-3 leches to any girl in LdV, I promise you 90% will start with either "300 USD" or 750,000-850,000 pesos. So I don't fully agreee that 600,000 is crazily over paying, but possibly to some extent, yes.
Getting robbed, agreed, 100% on me. Just want to warn why'all don't be that guy thinking it could never happen, as I was that guy- thinking I'm a street rat having been to CTG a whole 3 times jajajaj.
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[QUOTE=Combo;2705293]Yup. A guy playing big shot and overpaying attracts the wrong kind of attention. The girls all have male friends who are more than happy to relieve you of cash.[/QUOTE]Again, disagree here.
It was obvious reasons this happened.
I'm texting on my phone while my gold chain having slipped out of my t-shirt.
I'm not sure if some of you guys have been to LDV recently- $200 is a joke. People going bottle service drop 300-400 $ on top of the couple hundred for the girl. There seems to be a disconnect in the understanding of pricing of street / beach / legacy girls you've been with before vs. Club girls and prices. - but that's just my opinion.
Not one girl is walking out of LDV with you for multiple 5-6 hour session with multiple leches under $100, guaranteed.
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Too much BS info in this thread! For real!
Been to Cartagena twice in the past year. Neither trip was for mongering purposes and I never closed a deal with a chick.
However I went in groups both times.
Been to all 3 major clubs and saw the street scene.
If you're pulling from LDV the cheapest I've been quoted is 300 mil for an hour. And if she was willing to do BBBJ I woulda pulled the trigger. But that was a strong no and non negotiable.
At delirium all girls were asking 300 usd to start and some settled on 150 usd.
As far as the street scene girls look horrendous but that's just my taste.
There is no 60-80 $ pussy at ldv or delirium or space on a weekend night.
Maybe these girls work other days and take less on those days but if you're going for a weekend and these are your destinations then expect to pay a premium.
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[QUOTE=SteelDh;2705188]Sorry this happened to you but you did put this on yourself. Your paying girls $200 dollars when the going rate is $60-80. The girls talk to each other and to the local guys. Someone probably was like that guy and his group have $$ because he offered 200 $. So they think robbing you is no big deal. Overpaying is bringing unwanted attention.[/QUOTE]Spot on!
I reported on this back in April. The locals know you even if you don't know them and it can be a good thing or a bad then depending on the type of attention you're trying to attract. So when mongers go down there with Jordans or yeezes on their feet, diamond earrings in their ears, blinged out watches hand chains and pinky rings even if its all fake and its just for looks, they are putting their life at risk just for attention. Its not worth it as its not "if" it will happen it "when" it will happen.
[QUOTE]So jokingly I say maybe I should change my flight to tomorrow and she said I don't have to worry because the girls here know me and others know me even though I don't know them. She then explains to me that most of the girls I know live in the same barrios or are friends with the touts that sells the cabanas, chairs or get the food and drinks at the beaches and they take pictures and puts it on their Instagram.
She then goes on Instagram and show me pictures of me on Hollywood beach last year on one of the cabana guys instagram who I know but are not friends on Instagram. [/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2683257&viewfull=1#post2683257[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2705335]Been to Cartagena twice in the past year. Neither trip was for mongering purposes and I never closed a deal with a chick.
However I went in groups both times.
Been to all 3 major clubs and saw the street scene.
If you're pulling from LDV the cheapest I've been quoted is 300 mil for an hour. And if she was willing to do BBBJ I woulda pulled the trigger. But that was a strong no and non negotiable.
At delirium all girls were asking 300 usd to start and some settled on 150 usd.
As far as the street scene girls look horrendous but that's just my taste.
There is no 60-80 $ pussy at ldv or delirium or space on a weekend night.
Maybe these girls work other days and take less on those days but if you're going for a weekend and these are your destinations then expect to pay a premium.[/QUOTE]Experiences vary. One cannot expect to go there on Weekend Millionaire days and get low prices. The girls already caught on to that and they know Thursday. Saturday they can hit everyone in the head for hit prices after dark. During the day time the same girl will cut her price in half. Going into a club to get a girl only allows her to set a high price because she's in the club. Sunday is the beach day where mongers can get good prices at Playa Hollywood and they get to see everything as the girls love wearing thong bating suits. Monday. Wednesday most of the girls who live in CTG will be at home doing nothing or partying in their barrio and will be more than willing to come to the monger if they can.
I have way more luck on Tinder getting in shape 18 - 25 yo at sub 300 K a pop and they are not no focused on trying to empty my pockets or watching the clock. I tell them come for a leche and there with me for hours after I already paid them. I would never expect this from new girl in a club on a weekend, which is why I'm not too keen on going in them anymore to spend American prices on drinks when the same bottle is on the shelf in Exito for a fraction of the price. I Believe $60- 80 a pop can be had in the club but it has to be either a chica whose hungry or way late in the night when the club closing and she need anything she can get. Or the chica knows the monger and giving a discount to keep the relationship going.
Photo 1. New one from Tinder on last trip. Anal for 300 mil and I've seen her in LDV. That price is locked in going forward. Currently 22.
Photo 2. Known her since 19, and set that price. Currently 20.
Photo 3. Knew her since 18 and we have this ongoing over joke over 2 years how 15 minutes to her is really 45 minutes to me.
Photo 4. New one from last trip. That 200 K is locked in going forward. Currently 20.
Photo 5. I set that price when she was 18, its been 2 years and I always forget how much to give her and end up asking.
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[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2705297]To save $1.30? No thanks.[/QUOTE]I'm with you on this one. $1. 30 is not worth the walk with a suitcase in that weather. Jajaja.
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[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2705335]Been to Cartagena twice in the past year. Neither trip was for mongering purposes and I never closed a deal with a chick.
However I went in groups both times.
Been to all 3 major clubs and saw the street scene.
If you're pulling from LDV the cheapest I've been quoted is 300 mil for an hour. And if she was willing to do BBBJ I woulda pulled the trigger. But that was a strong no and non negotiable.
At delirium all girls were asking 300 usd to start and some settled on 150 usd.
As far as the street scene girls look horrendous but that's just my taste.
There is no 60-80 $ pussy at ldv or delirium or space on a weekend night.
Maybe these girls work other days and take less on those days but if you're going for a weekend and these are your destinations then expect to pay a premium.[/QUOTE]Thank you!! Exactly on point bro! It's really not over paying if 80-90% of the girls ask for hundreds of dollars and start at $300 USD. No offense, but the guy who said 60-80 $ is the standard must not have visited the clubs lately and is a little out of touch. If he's talking about non-club girls, then yea maybe.
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Clubbing in Cartagena
Planning for a weekend in Cartagena later this month with my Colombian girl. Since she is bisexual, I will leave it up to her to search for the girls for our usual sexual adventures while we are there.
In the meantime, does anyone has any knowledge and / or latest experience with these clubs in terms of types of crowds, size, vibes, ambience etc. ?
- Imperio Nightclub. (This looks new and has no review yet and happens to be inside the walled city).
- Eivissa. (This is also inside the walled city).
- The Saint or La Santa. (This is outside the walled city. Used to have lots of fun in 2018 and the place was filled with energy when I was there with a local girl and her friends. Not sure how it is faring these days).
- Taboo Club. (This is also outside the walled city, seemed to have a lot of good google reviews.).
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[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2705494]Planning for a weekend in Cartagena later this month with my Colombian girl. Since she is bisexual, I will leave it up to her to search for the girls for our usual sexual adventures while we are there.
In the meantime, does anyone has any knowledge and / or latest experience with these clubs in terms of types of crowds, size, vibes, ambience etc. ?
- Imperio Nightclub. (This looks new and has no review yet and happens to be inside the walled city).
- Eivissa. (This is also inside the walled city).
- The Saint or La Santa. (This is outside the walled city. Used to have lots of fun in 2018 and the place was filled with energy when I was there with a local girl and her friends. Not sure how it is faring these days).
- Taboo Club. (This is also outside the walled city, seemed to have a lot of good google reviews.).[/QUOTE]My knowledge is limited to Imperio and Taboo.
Imperio is the old Isis strip club across from the KFC. It's still pretty new and a mix of regular and working girls.
Taboo. I've been there a few times and it mostly a Latin club. Bring your salsa shoes. No BS cover charges or must get a table to get in. It's chill and laid back, can get packed though. You will see lots of semi pro girls in here hanging out with friends who may not know what they do behind closed doors.
You here are also a few other clubs on the same street, all great spots to check out and get away from Centro.
I can also recommend Havana Cafe. You can't miss it, the music blasting can be heard a block away. More chill dancing spot.
Getsemeni is where all the fun is and I wish I had known sooner as I thought it was the slums, now I find myself getting Abbs there with private pools for reasonable prices.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2705312]Happened to a guy in Sosua. He was comfortable with a chick he had known for years so he left her in his room while he went out for a jog. Came back, safe was open, she was gone.
That brother is something else. Newb this, newb that. My fault because I was texting. Never considering it had nothing to do with the texting, but the fact that, as you said, having jewelry in a third world country is a dumb idea. Leave that shit home! I got some jewelry for your ass, but when I leave the States there is only one piece that I bring. (And of course I carry a gun everyday in the States.).
Up until the end I actually thought he was going to say his phone got snatched. I was like damn they karate chopped my man's neck and took his phone. It was a surprise ending to me that he was wearing jewelry. He better quit the texting out in the open or next time it will be his phone. You have been warned.[/QUOTE]Not that I'm saying it's ok to have your phone out, but in a few years hopefully, eventually these moron street rats will realize our iphones literally have zero value to them. Obvs once these phones are electronically locked, they are obsolete in any country in the world- just a matter of time until they have stolen enough and figure that out.
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[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2705322]This part I disagree with to some extent. I'm a club monger, so no, the going rate is never $60-$80 for 6 hours and multiple leches. For Colombia in general, yes you are correct, but different market, different prices. Think of NYC vs albany. If you propose 6 hours and 2-3 leches to any girl in LDV, I promise you 90% will start with either "300 USD" or 750,000-850,000 pesos. So I don't fully agree that 600,000 is crazily over paying, but possibly to some extent, yes.
Getting robbed, agreed, 100% on me. Just want to warn why'all don't be that guy thinking it could never happen, as I was that guy- thinking I'm a street rat having been to CTG a whole 3 times jajajaj.[/QUOTE]Cool. Like I said earlier I've been coming to Cartegena since 2018. My most recent trip was in February girls in delirium will try to hit you over the head if they know they can. I have never payed more than 300,000 peso for a girl. I've hit some of the most popular girls who frequent delirium. They are starting at $100 now but I counter with 300,000 peso with two Leche and 90% go. I always have party favors and I'm always with my boys so it turns into a party and they stay for hours. I'm just saying if you paying chicks in CTG $300 your a fool idk for how many hours. Outside delirium and through the streets the avg girls are still going from 150-250. I was just there in February and I was avg 250. But that's just me.
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[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2705398]Thank you! Exactly on point bro! It's really not over paying if 80-90% of the girls ask for hundreds of dollars and start at $300 USD. No offense, but the guy who said 60-80 $ is the standard must not have visited the clubs lately and is a little out of touch. If he's talking about non-club girls, then yea maybe.[/QUOTE]I was in Cartagena November 2021 and February 2022. I've never been quoted $300 in any club. You think dudes is flying to CTG and paying chicks $300 Lmao. You got played accept the loss.
But I will be returning in a week and I will report my updated experiences.
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[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2705582]Not that I'm saying it's ok to have your phone out, but in a few years hopefully, eventually these moron street rats will realize our iphones literally have zero value to them. Obvs once these phones are electronically locked, they are obsolete in any country in the world- just a matter of time until they have stolen enough and figure that out.[/QUOTE]I have been wondering about this. Can they put a new sim card in and make the iphone work? Does anybody know because they seem to have been stealing a lot of them for a long time now.
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[QUOTE=SteelDh;2705619]I was in Cartagena November 2021 and February 2022. I've never been quoted $300 in any club...[/QUOTE]I was also in Cartagena last December and again in March of this year. I was never quoted $300 usd, in the clubs. I was quoted in cops and I was able to negotiate down to 200 k cops every time.
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High prices depends on certain / combination of things.
The club. Dolce will be the most expensive followed by Delirium then Space.
Type of girl. Light skin girls know the brothers will pay more to be with them, darker skin girls knows they aren't really sought out so they are easier to get a lower rate. Same with the overweight ones, they will be cheaper since they know only certain gringos are the chubby chasers.
Day of the week. Thursday to Saturday will be expensive nights. Sunday to Wednesday will be cheaper.
Time of night. The earlier in the night the more expensive she will be but as the night goes on and she's not getting any customers, oh she's done a few for the night already and just doing clean up she will lower the price. (I've been that guy to get a girl a 2 am from the club, it was like throwing a hotdog down a hallway and constant pussy farts. Never me again).
The monger. If he looks like he have money to burn then they will try to empty his pockets. So trying to shine or attract attention with bottles will just increase the price.
So a familiar monger walking in the club on a Monday night at 2 AM, high possibility he can walk out with something for 300 K. But that same monger walking in on Friday at 11 PM high probability he's not walking out with something 300 K and under. So everyone can be right on this because no one is posting picture of what type of girl they got out of the club for 300 K or what type girl is starting off quoting at $300 in the club with day and time.
A girl like D1 and D2 will go for 300 K (she might even bring her crew "for free just to hang out".
A girl like I1 and I2 will hit you in the head for $300 (She may even hit you with the sob story of how she got pregnant trying to be in that rap video).
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[QUOTE=SteelDh;2705611]Cool. Like I said earlier I've been coming to Cartegena since 2018. My most recent trip was in February girls in delirium will try to hit you over the head if they know they can. I have never payed more than 300,000 peso for a girl. I've hit some of the most popular girls who frequent delirium. They are starting at $100 now but I counter with 300,000 peso with two Leche and 90% go. I always have party favors and I'm always with my boys so it turns into a party and they stay for hours. I'm just saying if you paying chicks in CTG $300 your a fool idk for how many hours. Outside delirium and through the streets the avg girls are still going from 150-250. I was just there in February and I was avg 250. But that's just me.[/QUOTE]Correct, I clarified this in my first original report I posted. I wrote the avg price is still 300,000 give or take 50,000. However that's generally for 1-2 hours. But the 600,000-700,000 pricing is for 6 hours and 3 leches. That you will not find for 300,000 or $60-$80, and if you do maybe handful of the girls at the most from the clubs. No one said they are actually paying $300, of course that is dumb- but some girls start the negotiation at $300 (6 hours 3 leches) was the point. I would assume 99% mongers are somewhat smart enough to negotiate. But like Nypher said, experiences vary. This one girl at LDV started her 2 hour- 2 leche negotiation with my cousin at 500,000. He countered 350,000 and ended up walking away. However he goes back 30 minutes later and offers 400,000 and surprisingly she still said no, and he ended up paying 450,000. In this case. Sometimes the heart wants what the hearts want, and if you're there 4 nights a year, and make 6 plus figures, of course he was going to pay the extra 100,000 peso premium. He did the full walk away, so I'm not sure I can fault him here. Everyone comes from different perspectives and different financial situations and different lengths of stays. Most people generally aren't getting fleeced blindly by these girls- they have common sense- but like I said if you're there 4 nights a year, some guys just don't care and I can't blame them. That's not the same as being dumb and getting blindly ripped off.
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[QUOTE=SteelDh;2705619]I was in Cartagena November 2021 and February 2022. I've never been quoted $300 in any club. You think dudes is flying to CTG and paying chicks $300 Lmao. You got played accept the loss.
But I will be returning in a week and I will report my updated experiences.[/QUOTE]Calm down bud. Can you read? Who paid $300?
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[QUOTE=Lefeu;2705742]I was also in Cartagena last December and again in March of this year. I was never quoted $300 usd, in the clubs. I was quoted in cops and I was able to negotiate down to 200 k cops every time.[/QUOTE]I don't know if why'all actually following the full conversation but it's cool.
Yes of course that can be had for 1 hour. The report was regarding 6 hours and 3 leches. If you ask enough girls, trust me you'll get the $300 quote. It's two literally different types and lengths and deals. But no one on this forum as ever said they actually paid $300. If you find a girl in Ldv for 200 cop for 6 hours and 3 leches, I'll pay her for you, you deserve it.
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[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2705335]Been to Cartagena twice in the past year. Neither trip was for mongering purposes and I never closed a deal with a chick.
However I went in groups both times.
Been to all 3 major clubs and saw the street scene.
If you're pulling from LDV the cheapest I've been quoted is 300 mil for an hour. And if she was willing to do BBBJ I woulda pulled the trigger. But that was a strong no and non negotiable.
At delirium all girls were asking 300 usd to start and some settled on 150 usd.
As far as the street scene girls look horrendous but that's just my taste.
There is no 60-80 $ pussy at ldv or delirium or space on a weekend night.
Maybe these girls work other days and take less on those days but if you're going for a weekend and these are your destinations then expect to pay a premium.[/QUOTE]Wasn't a mongering trip but went to the mongering clubs?
Interesting.
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[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2705272]Walk 2 blocks from the airport and the price is 5,000 mil cheaper to anywhere. Or get dropped off at the pharmacy store on the corner and walk the block to the airport. Taxi drivers pay 5,000 mil for the right to access the airport and pass it on to you.[/QUOTE]I agree. Don't get swindled by the airport taxi mafia. I usually walk to the intersection near the grocery store. Best rates unless you pack like a girl and get all your bags there. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Lefeu;2705742]I was also in Cartagena last December and again in March of this year. I was never quoted $300 usd, in the clubs. I was quoted in cops and I was able to negotiate down to 200 k cops every time.[/QUOTE]Higher end bar girls quote in dollars. It is more of the norm than you think. I was there last month and it was a mix of asking price in dollars and pesos. They start at $300 and of course can be negotiated. Unless you go frequently and develop friendship with normal girls for a monger it is not a aim and shoot proposition. Definitely the girls are not subservient aiming to please. I have been with many pretty Colombians in Costa Rica and Panama. I guess when they are not in their own country they are more GFE. In Cartagena clubs start going after 11 pm and by the time you close the deal it will be past 1 am. Also need to be careful because there are many girls with their friends and family just out on the town. Although they are friendly and smile they are not working girls. I believe fluent Spanish is a must not app translated.
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[QUOTE=SteelDh;2705619]I was in Cartagena November 2021 and February 2022. I've never been quoted $300 in any club. You think dudes is flying to CTG and paying chicks $300 Lmao. You got played accept the loss.
But I will be returning in a week and I will report my updated experiences.[/QUOTE]Could be you're simply targeting girls who don't consider themselves worth big $$. Considering others are being quoted the same things and you're being quoted lower could simply mean you're targeting lesser quality girls.
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[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2705711]I have been wondering about this. Can they put a new sim card in and make the iphone work? Does anybody know because they seem to have been stealing a lot of them for a long time now.[/QUOTE]It could be more than just putting in a SIM and getting it to work.
I've have one chica had hers stolen and they were able to unlock it and blackmail her with the pictures that were on the phone. Then they started contacting all her gringo contacts pretending to be her to get them to send money. She ended up paying them to get the phone back but still had to get a new number, and new social media accounts, in the process she lost almost all her contacts.
Another route they can take is use the stolen phone for parts to fix other phones. Screen replacements are a major business and these people crack their screens all the time.
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[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2705711]I have been wondering about this. Can they put a new sim card in and make the iphone work? Does anybody know because they seem to have been stealing a lot of them for a long time now.[/QUOTE]Does not matter. They are stealing phones period and not iPhones in particular. Just like when they snatch a purse. They do not know what is inside. They will find out what the spoils are when they get back to the lair. If it is something they can not use or sell, they can just give it away or throw it away.
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[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2705889]Could be you're simply targeting girls who don't consider themselves worth big $$. Considering others are being quoted the same things and you're being quoted lower could simply mean you're targeting lesser quality girls.[/QUOTE]I've been with some of the most popular girls in CTG. A lot of baddies not to toot my own horn but I'm young fit and have some game. I'm able to speak enough Spanglish to flirt. I've been coming since 2018 I let the girls know I'm not green I'm not a newbie I know what the avg rate is. The club girls can only demand what the market pays. There might be 80 girls in delirium / Dolce on a given night and there might be 25 gringos or less who would be willing to p4 p. If a chick says $300 move on to the next one by the end of the night $300 turns into $100 or less. The amount of available girls outnumbers mongers.
Last trip in February I pulled a chick from delirium who started at 500,000 mil IMO she was a 9. I got her down to 300 mil had her from 1 to 3:30 am. Afterward I texted two chicks I met in delirium to come through for a threesome 150 mil a piece: They came through twenty minutes later. We had a blast and I knocked out around 6 or 7 (I usually don't do overnights) but I was too tired to kick them out. I told one of them to wake me up with a BJ and sure enough I woke up with my dick in her mouth. For the BJ I have her an extra 100 mil. In total for three chicks and 4 leches I paid 700 mil. Crazy thing is you guys are paying the same amount for 1 chick. Lmaoo couldn't be me.
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The scene is so big here It's hard to generalize their all types of girls looking for all kinds of different arrangements. Since we're always talking about what the guys want let me spend a little time talking about what the girls want as I had my regular girl We had some interesting talks.
The ideal client is drinking a lot and with any luck doing coke too. Go back to the guy's place and he can't get it up. Sorry baby see you tomorrow. It was nice hanging out with you you have my number. Most of the time the guy who pay the most money are the most drunk and can't get it up. The guys who pay the least money are the ones who want to fuck the most. On the other hand the girls do like sex and if you can get them off that is definitely a bonus but that's a whole other conversation. As is the one about if you're working with a really big dick.....lol
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[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2705889]Could be you're simply targeting girls who don't consider themselves worth big $$. Considering others are being quoted the same things and you're being quoted lower could simply mean you're targeting lesser quality girls.[/QUOTE]Hello all,
Lot of discussion about high rate girls. Please reach out to OnFireBoy and he can assist you all with good looking young university girls and these girls does not charge high end price. One ISG member msg me in WhatsApp and told me they are worth it and very cooperative. My last trip he helped us with everything girls, clubs even boat rental. Worth it if anyone interested.
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2705990]The scene is so big here It's hard to generalize their all types of girls looking for all kinds of different arrangements. Since we're always talking about what the guys want let me spend a little time talking about what the girls want as I had my regular girl We had some interesting talks.
The ideal client is drinking a lot and with any luck doing coke too. Go back to the guy's place and he can't get it up. Sorry baby see you tomorrow. It was nice hanging out with you you have my number. Most of the time the guy who pay the most money are the most drunk and can't get it up. The guys who pay the least money are the ones who want to fuck the most. On the other hand the girls do like sex and if you can get them off that is definitely a bonus but that's a whole other conversation. As is the one about if you're working with a really big dick.....lol[/QUOTE]I've heard similar.
Gringo would pay for time but still in the club drinking, they get back to the apartment gringo start doing drugs. At this point the chica asks for the money up front because she already knows what's about to happen. Gringo either pays and tries his luck getting it up or she tell him pay for the time up until now and she leaves. Either way she still gets paid, sex or no sex.
Also had girls tell me they turned down sex from guys with really big dicks, apparently there are guys getting these surgical modifications putting pearls along their shaft, or penis enlargement for serious girth. Some chicas see it as if the do it, they won't be able to work the following day due to pain and will just leave or ask for more money.
I don't know how they do it, one set of drugs give ED, then they try fighting it with cailas or viagra now there's 2 sets of drugs fighting in the system with liquor.
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[QUOTE=SteelDh;2705945]I've been with some of the most popular girls in CTG. A lot of baddies not to toot my own horn but I'm young fit and have some game. I'm able to speak enough Spanglish to flirt. I've been coming since 2018 I let the girls know I'm not green I'm not a newbie I know what the avg rate is. The club girls can only demand what the market pays. There might be 80 girls in delirium / Dolce on a given night and there might be 25 gringos or less who would be willing to p4 p. If a chick says $300 move on to the next one by the end of the night $300 turns into $100 or less. The amount of available girls outnumbers mongers.
Last trip in February I pulled a chick from delirium who started at 500,000 mil IMO she was a 9. I got her down to 300 mil had her from 1 to 3:30 am. Afterward I texted two chicks I met in delirium to come through for a threesome 150 mil a piece: They came through twenty minutes later. We had a blast and I knocked out around 6 or 7 (I usually don't do overnights) but I was too tired to kick them out. I told one of them to wake me up with a BJ and sure enough I woke up with my dick in her mouth. For the BJ I have her an extra 100 mil. In total for three chicks and 4 leches I paid 700 mil. Crazy thing is you guys are paying the same amount for 1 chick. Lmaoo couldn't be me.[/QUOTE]Well I do agree it's a numbers game. My simple point was a weekend night at dolce vita or delirium girls are starting at 300 usd and then the negotiations begin.
As I've stated I didn't partake.
But tbh I've been going to Colombia for many years and if a girl is willing to take 150 for BBBJCIM etc etc. They're usually not high end girls.
The ones that are universally desired know their worth because they get it on a reg basis.
Now this doesn't mean they get 300 usd.
But I do know they won't settle for 150 mil.
Regardless of game if you're dealing with working girls it's all about $$ nothing else.
Yes they might feel more at ease taking your dick if you're not old fat or smelly.
But my point is when a girl is out working on a busy night she knows her worth. So if 150 mil is something she's willing to take when everything in cart is jacked up prices it could be the quality of girls.
But as long as you're happy it shouldn't even matter.
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[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2705783]I don't know if why'all actually following the full conversation but it's cool.
Yes of course that can be had for 1 hour. The report was regarding 6 hours and 3 leches. If you ask enough girls, trust me you'll get the $300 quote. It's two literally different types and lengths and deals. But no one on this forum as ever said they actually paid $300. If you find a girl in Ldv for 200 cop for 6 hours and 3 leches, I'll pay her for you, you deserve it.[/QUOTE]Sorry, my citas are always for 1 hour. I should have been more clear on this. To be honest, after one hour I am ready for them to leave. Even though my Spanish is decent, I cannot relate to working girls. In the town where I live, I have repeated with many working girls, and I still could not connect with them.
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[QUOTE=SteelDh;2705945]I've been with some of the most popular girls in CTG. A lot of baddies not to toot my own horn but I'm young fit and have some game. I'm able to speak enough Spanglish to flirt.[/QUOTE]You say that as if they were free.
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Negotiation Strategy in Their Spanish county.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2705876]Higher end bar girls quote in dollars. It is more of the norm than you think. I was there last month and it was a mix of asking price in dollars and pesos. They start at $300 and of course can be negotiated. Unless you go frequently and develop friendship with normal girls for a monger it is not a aim and shoot proposition. Definitely the girls are not subservient aiming to please... I believe fluent Spanish is a must not app translated.[/QUOTE]Agree. Its not just throw out a number, then back and forth like offer, counteroffer. Most times you have to dance with them or buy them a drink, sit down with them at a table and give them a compliment. Try a little romance. If you do not speak Spanish, then you will not be successful. Remember, its not your country. Its Spanish speaking people, and they will take advantage of you if you are on their turf. So if you are old, fat, rude, bossy, or do not communicate in Spanish, you will not have much luck and probably pay much more. You can read all the posting on this site you want, but until you go there and talk to them (in Spanish) you will be treated like a foreigner with money to give them, period, and they will take advantage of you as much as they can! Common excuse, "I have to Leave early because my baby is sick." "My cousin is in the ER of the hospital", etc. I have heard these regularly in Dominican Republic so much that I do not do overnights with chicas there.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;2705876]Higher end bar girls quote in dollars. It is more of the norm than you think. [/QUOTE]To me, a girl quoting in dollars is a major red flag. Strictly avoid.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2706059]You say that as if they were free.[/QUOTE]Nah but it helps with negotiations I know dudes think these girls are just fuck robots but they're humans and I'm sure have there preferences of customers.
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[QUOTE=BlackPage;2706272]To me, a girl quoting in dollars is a major red flag. Strictly avoid.[/QUOTE]It really is it's a sign your in for a bad session or a scam.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2705312]Happened to a guy in Sosua. He was comfortable with a chick he had known for years so he left her in his room while he went out for a jog. Came back, safe was open, she was gone.
[/QUOTE]I can't believe I missed this message, it's like they get approved randomly or out of order or something.
But I can't stop laughing, I can't believe he went for a jog and left her in there jajaja.
I had something similar when a chica video called me from an apartment by delirium, immediately I tell her don't call me when she's working because I don't want to mess up her money but she says it's ok the gringo is still in Delirium partying. Although she's trustworthy I wouldn't leave a chica in the apartment and go back to the club to party. That's just asking for trouble.
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Question: Prices and Imperio
I haven't been to Cartagena since just before the pandemic, but reading the latest comments it seems prices have gone up; to the regular visitors, are the prices really up or just a few outliers? If they are up, are we talking double what it was pre-pandemic or not much of a difference given dollar is now worth more vs COP than it was two years ago?
I also see some comments that Isis has changed to Imperio; has anyone visited and is it the same as Isis or does it have a different concept? Are prices high (I can't remember if last time I got quoted COP 400,000 or USD 400 for a session, which I of course declined).
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[QUOTE=LeoAiolia;2706461]I haven't been to Cartagena since just before the pandemic, but reading the latest comments it seems prices have gone up; to the regular visitors, are the prices really up or just a few outliers? If they are up, are we talking double what it was pre-pandemic or not much of a difference given dollar is now worth more vs COP than it was two years ago?
I also see some comments that Isis has changed to Imperio; has anyone visited and is it the same as Isis or does it have a different concept? Are prices high (I can't remember if last time I got quoted COP 400,000 or USD 400 for a session, which I of course declined).[/QUOTE]Naa, prices haven't really gone up to be honest. Chicks can still be had for 250,000 per hour. This is never an issue, and some may say no to 250,000, but they all say yes to 300,000 so you're fine. Except maybe 10% outliers. Again I'm strictly talking about club girls y'all never seen before. The club drink prices have DEF gone up thought at insane levels. Taxis also same price, no inflation.
It's the longer stays you need your negotiation hat on. But we were consistently finding 600,000-700,000 for 6 hours and 3 leches.
Just don't fall for the USD tactics, because some will come at you with insane prices for all night. Happy hunting!
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[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2706493]Naa, prices haven't really gone up to be honest. Chicks can still be had for 250,000 per hour. This is never an issue, and some may say no to 250,000, but they all say yes to 300,000 so you're fine. Except maybe 10% outliers. Again I'm strictly talking about club girls y'all never seen before. The club drink prices have DEF gone up thought at insane levels. Taxis also same price, no inflation.
It's the longer stays you need your negotiation hat on. But we were consistently finding 600,000-700,000 for 6 hours and 3 leches.
Just don't fall for the USD tactics, because some will come at you with insane prices for all night. Happy hunting![/QUOTE]I just returned from a 5 day trip to Cartagena, and as you said most of the girls are still going for 250,000-300 k. The most popular ones in the club will hold out to see if someone is willing to pay their inflated rates. Mind you this is for 2 hours. I almost never negotiate a planned all night session at first because I'm unaware of the performance I will receive and I don't want to be stuck with a dud all night and I personally can't sleep comfortably around strangers.
I made the cardinal sin of not negotiating a price with a girl from Instagram who I would rate as a 9, when she got to my airbnb I brought it up and she quoted me $200 usd. I respectfully declined and countered 300,000 k even went up to 350,000 but she wouldn't budge. I paid for her taxi and let her go on her way. I hit another chick up from Instagram who was also a 9 IMO and she took 250,000 k pesos and arrived 45 min after the other one left. The first girl ended up messaging me the next day willing to come over for 300,000 with some some sob story about her really needing the money yesterday to pay for rent that's why she couldn't budge and really wanted to see me for 300 k. I was booked solid so I had to decline.
If your willing to walk away and be patient you may get a better price but YMMV. There's still an abundance of beautiful girls in Cartagena who are available for standard pricing of 200-300 k.
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[QUOTE=Kmac22;2706587]I just returned from a 5 day trip to Cartagena, and as you said most of the girls are still going for 250,000-300 k. The most popular ones in the club will hold out to see if someone is willing to pay their inflated rates. Mind you this is for 2 hours. I almost never negotiate a planned all night session at first because I'm unaware of the performance I will receive and I don't want to be stuck with a dud all night and I personally can't sleep comfortably around strangers.
I made the cardinal sin of not negotiating a price with a girl from Instagram who I would rate as a 9, when she got to my airbnb I brought it up and she quoted me $200 usd. I respectfully declined and countered 300,000 k even went up to 350,000 but she wouldn't budge. I paid for her taxi and let her go on her way. I hit another chick up from Instagram who was also a 9 IMO and she took 250,000 k pesos and arrived 45 min after the other one left. The first girl ended up messaging me the next day willing to come over for 300,000 with some some sob story about her really needing the money yesterday to pay for rent that's why she couldn't budge and really wanted to see me for 300 k. I was booked solid so I had to decline.
If your willing to walk away and be patient you may get a better price but YMMV. There's still an abundance of beautiful girls in Cartagena who are available for standard pricing of 200-300 k.[/QUOTE]Probably a stupid question, but how are you finding these girls on IG? I've spent the past several months reading the forum, at minimum the last 300 pages, and either missed or haven't seen how mongers are contacting chicks via IG.
I'm doing my first trip next week for 6 days and if anyone has any last minute advice, would be greatly appreciated. This forum has been super fun to read and very helpful for planning.
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[QUOTE=LxLuthor;2706922]Probably a stupid question, but how are you finding these girls on IG? I've spent the past several months reading the forum, at minimum the last 300 pages, and either missed or haven't seen how mongers are contacting chicks via IG.
I'm doing my first trip next week for 6 days and if anyone has any last minute advice, would be greatly appreciated. This forum has been super fun to read and very helpful for planning.[/QUOTE]Go on Tinder. They will often list their IG name on there. From here it can go one or two ways. If their IG is open and you can see their friends list, browse through it and see her friends. If her friends are doing obvious prepargo things like you see American money in the back of their clear phone case, they are taking lots of pictures in luxury apartments or from balconies overlooking the beach or out at fancy food places then you already know what she does to get money. Add them and begin your negations.
If the profile is private follow them and do the same as above.
Its takes time and legwork but as I have learned and tested, IMHO, its way more worth it as its not inflated club prices, you get to see what they look like over time based on their pictures rather in a club scene with poor lighting and under the influence.
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[QUOTE=Kmac22;2706587]The first girl ended up messaging me the next day willing to come over for 300,000 with some some sob story about her really needing the money yesterday to pay for rent that's why she couldn't budge and really wanted to see me for 300 k.[/QUOTE]So instead of going home with some of the money, you go home with none. Dumb thinking like that is exactly why these chicks are hookers. I would have told her that she can come over and stay one night for free when she gets put out.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2707152]If her friends are doing obvious prepargo things like you see American money in the back of their clear phone case, they are taking lots of pictures in luxury apartments or from balconies overlooking the beach or out at fancy food places then you already know what she does to get money.[/QUOTE]Without a doubt. I went out with a chick that works at a clothing store in Barranquilla a couple of months ago that had never had Italian food. She was scared to order. She had never drank ginger ale before either. A couple of my chicks in Barranquilla had never eaten Mexican food before I took them to Benito Juarez. One of my chicks has never even seen a bathtub.
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If they are not going to go for less than 250,000 (COP) than yes prices have gone up
[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2706493]Naa, prices haven't really gone up to be honest. Chicks can still be had for 250,000 per hour. This is never an issue, and some may say no to 250,000, but they all say yes to 300,000 so you're fine. Except maybe 10% outliers. Again I'm strictly talking about club girls y'all never seen before. The club drink prices have DEF gone up thought at insane levels. Taxis also same price, no inflation.
It's the longer stays you need your negotiation hat on. But we were consistently finding 600,000-700,000 for 6 hours and 3 leches.
Just don't fall for the USD tactics, because some will come at you with insane prices for all night. Happy hunting![/QUOTE]If they are not going to go for less than 250,000 (COP) than yes prices have gone up. I frequented Cartagena may times between 2009 and the last time was 2019 and during that entire decade I could always find a decen looking chica to come back to my apartment for a couple of hours for 150,000 - and the top price for a gorgeous chica was 200 k (including BBBJ) - so in my opinion the prices have been driven up. I suspect there are several factors that have driven them up. Mostly the general popularity of Cartagena. All these fools going on FB advertising this shit. Lord forgive them for they know not what they do. Then the recen events around the pandemic drove mongers who usually head to Germany and Thailand down there. It is not the same city that I used to love so much.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2707654]If they are not going to go for less than 250,000 (COP) than yes prices have gone up. I frequented Cartagena may times between 2009 and the last time was 2019 and during that entire decade I could always find a decen looking chica to come back to my apartment for a couple of hours for 150,000 - and the top price for a gorgeous chica was 200 k (including BBBJ) - so in my opinion the prices have been driven up. I suspect there are several factors that have driven them up. Mostly the general popularity of Cartagena. All these fools going on FB advertising this shit. Lord forgive them for they know not what they do. Then the recen events around the pandemic drove mongers who usually head to Germany and Thailand down there. It is not the same city that I used to love so much.[/QUOTE]You are correct about the additional travelers unable to get into SEA so they headed to Cartagena. One of my chicas video called me Friday and she was in a big house in Centro, filled with Asian men, must have been 10+. She wanted me to get that house next time I come there. I promptly told her I don't travel in big groups so that house will be a no. When I asked her how much she was charging the gringo she said $400. I couldn't help but laugh because I know when get there an about a month she will in my bed for 300 K.
Its also doesn't help that these people are now there making it rain:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AmrCjDpj-Q0[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5VmDrPfy0A[/URL]
And many others with a quick search of "making it rain in Cartagena" on youtube.
Also added a convo from one of my regular chicas I've known for years who always fills me in on what happening on the puta side of things. Prices are inflated.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2707654]If they are not going to go for less than 250,000 (COP) than yes prices have gone up. I frequented Cartagena may times between 2009 and the last time was 2019 and during that entire decade I could always find a decen looking chica to come back to my apartment for a couple of hours for 150,000 - and the top price for a gorgeous chica was 200 k (including BBBJ) - so in my opinion the prices have been driven up. I suspect there are several factors that have driven them up. Mostly the general popularity of Cartagena. All these fools going on FB advertising this shit. Lord forgive them for they know not what they do. Then the recen events around the pandemic drove mongers who usually head to Germany and Thailand down there. It is not the same city that I used to love so much.[/QUOTE]Yes, then maybe the prices have gone up- I was comparing to last year (pre-inflation) jajaja. In the past year, I haven't seen much of a difference. But yes, from my experience, I don't think 150,000 (cop) can be had from the clubs. But as Nypher explained there's just so many variables in pricing. Club girl vs street girl, location, quality of girl, status of the girl, have you sessioned with her before, time of the night, time of the week, Spanish speaking skills, etc.
From my 5 days experience you guys are looking at 250,000 give or take for short time and 600,000 give or take for long time (3 leches) - never pay upfront for Long time. Tell them you'll pay half if they demand the money upfront. Usually this is a bad sign, but sometimes it's too late in the night from hours of hunting, you're in your bed, and you just want to get it on jajaja.
Again, watch those damn street rats stalking you, they'll rob you blind, don't trust anyone- I would even go as far to say to use taxis from your apartment to the club entrances and vice versa. Going forward, I will not be making my usual walk through the main clock tower entrance, as I have always done in all my trips so far. I will ask to get dropped off in front of LDV if that's possible.
Why take on the headache and risk of at least 30 strangers approaching you and measuring you up while you walk from the clock tower to the clubs. I'm done with that nonsense. I'll post another report from my trip in September!
Peace out till then and enjoy the chicas!
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2707726]You are correct about the additional travelers unable to get into SEA so they headed to Cartagena. One of my chicas video called me Friday and she was in a big house in Centro, filled with Asian men, must have been 10+. She wanted me to get that house next time I come there. I promptly told her I don't travel in big groups so that house will be a no. When I asked her how much she was charging the gringo she said $400. I couldn't help but laugh because I know when get there an about a month she will in my bed for 300 K.
Its also doesn't help that these people are now there making it rain:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AmrCjDpj-Q0[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5VmDrPfy0A[/URL]
And many others with a quick search of "making it rain in Cartagena" on youtube.
Also added a convo from one of my regular chicas I've known for years who always fills me in on what happening on the puta side of things. Prices are inflated.[/QUOTE]I've been to a Cartagena bunch of times never paid more than $100 max IF she is a 9-10. I speak 0 Spanish. Use translator and if I don't get the wibe I tell her "this is not going to work out" on to the next one. My #1 rule is no condom on oral and I finish in mouth. Got to be straight up with your expectations and own the conversation not the other way around. I always get their number just in case and sure enough at the end of the night my phone is blowing up. Happy mothering fellas!
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Why take on the headache and risk of at least 30 strangers approaching you and measuring you up while you walk from the clock tower to the clubs. I'm done with that nonsense. I'll post another report from my trip in September!
Peace out till then and enjoy the chicas![/QUOTE]The touts have gotten progressively worse over the years it is getting unbearable. What I used to do is just come into the clock tower plaza from the end were the Hard Rock Cafe is and start working the fringes. There is a set of benches on that end where I used to snag chicas from without having to actually walk up into the plaza. Directly in front of Hard Rock Cafe is restaurant style seating but get a little closer to the actual clock tower more in front of Tucandela and there are some benches. This was before though I could always find a cute one there for a decent price.
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Guest Friendly Accommodations
Looking for some advice being a first time traveler to Cartagena. Where is the best place to stay that is fairly close to everything and also guest friendly? I will be in Cartagena in September.
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[QUOTE=FurJacket;2709723]Looking for some advice being a first time traveler to Cartagena. Where is the best place to stay that is fairly close to everything and also guest friendly? I will be in Cartagena in September.[/QUOTE]Please take the time to read posts (at least 32 pages) at least 3-6 months worth. Your question has been asked almost multiple times a month. There is a wealth of information already posted. Most members are tired of trying to answer the same question over and over especially to first time posters who don't want to put in the work and read past posts.
Inside or Close to Walled City. Visitor Friendly(VF) hard to find you have to put in work to uncover these locations. Most members are not going to give up thier coveted VF locations for it to be ruined and become unavailable especially to newbs.
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My bad
My bad bro, sorry for being such a newb. I didn't realize you would be so butt hurt about asking an honest question. You know what, let me get there so I can bang a buncha broads and be a pro like you before I ask such idiotic questions.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2709833]Please take the time to read posts (at least 32 pages) at least 3-6 months worth. Your question has been asked almost multiple times a month. There is a wealth of information already posted. Most members are tired of trying to answer the same question over and over especially to first time posters who don't want to put in the work and read past posts.
Inside or Close to Walled City. Visitor Friendly(VF) hard to find you have to put in work to uncover these locations. Most members are not going to give up thier coveted VF locations for it to be ruined and become unavailable especially to newbs.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=FurJacket;2710287]My bad bro, sorry for being such a newb. I didn't realize you would be so butt hurt about asking an honest question. You know what, let me get there so I can bang a buncha broads and be a pro like you before I ask such idiotic questions.[/QUOTE]Never been to Cartagena but from what I have seen. The best spots in Bocagrande will not accept visitors. What you can do is get to know a girl good and then book a spot in Bocagrande with both of y'all name on it.
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RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum)
[QUOTE=FurJacket;2710287]My bad bro, sorry for being such a newb. I didn't realize you would be so butt hurt about asking an honest question. You know what, let me get there so I can bang a buncha broads and be a pro like you before I ask such idiotic questions.[/QUOTE]He is not butt hurt, in fact he was being very polite about you wanting something for nothing. He was genuinely helpful. This is not a Question-Answer forum. This is a give and take forum. You have not left anything here and yet you want something. You see TheCritic is simply following the guidelines that this forum follows. That is why this thread is not called Caragena Questions and Answers. This thread is called Cartagean Reports because it is designed so people who have been there can Report their expiriences and then others can learn from that and maybe leave their experiences also so that more information accrues. That is why if you go to the front page of the forum (there is a button that says Front Page) scroll down to Forum Abbreviations. Click on the letter (R) and scroll down to RTFF and see that it means Read The Fucking Forum. It is an established abbreviation because it is an establsihed repsonse to those seeking something for nothing.
It is also not lost on the board members that you have not bothered to at least pay for a membership. That means you are what is disparagingly called a "lurker". Also people are more likely to share specific info like what you seek through PM and until you make enough reports to be a Senior Member or you pay for a membership then you do not have PM.
I am not butt hurt either. I was not wise to how this forum worked when I started either. Now I am expalaing to you what I learned through application. I might seem a little more frank and maybe a little less polite than TheCritic? And yet this is all in an honest effort to help you get to where you can get the info you want.
So here is my advisory:
The first thing I want you to consider is that maybe you are in the wrong thread. This is the Cartagena Reports thread and yet under the heading of the Colombia forum there are many other threads and some that specialize in particular information. You can get back out to the Colombia forum by ulitizing the tree. I do not have the same graphics so my example looks a little different. Toward the upper left corner of this page you'll see something that looks similar to this: 🏡 Forum➡ South America ➡Colombia➡Cartagena Reports. Click on "Colombia" . Then scroll down past the "Reports" threads and search through the User Blogs. Seek and ye shall find.
Second piece of advice: pay for a membership
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Thank you!
Thank you so much for the tip! I really appreciate your help!
[QUOTE=Cursnoop;2710449]Never been to Cartagena but from what I have seen. The best spots in Bocagrande will not accept visitors. What you can do is get to know a girl good and then book a spot in Bocagrande with both of y'all name on it.[/QUOTE]
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Insolence
[QUOTE=FurJacket;2710287]My bad bro, sorry for being such a newb. I didn't realize you would be so butt hurt about asking an honest question. You know what, let me get there so I can bang a buncha broads and be a pro like you before I ask such idiotic questions.[/QUOTE]Not butt hurt at all. I actually don't[b]........[/b] Na, I ain't going there. Anywho, You failed to see I gave you the info you were looking for you were just mad at how it was delivered.
1. RTFF.
2. [QUOTE=TheCritic;2709833][b]Inside or Close to Walled City[/b]. Visitor Friendly(VF) hard to find you have to put in work to uncover these locations.....[/QUOTE]
Now you thank'd
[QUOTE=Cursnoop;2710449][b]The best spots in Bocagrande will not accept visitors[/b]. What you can do is get to know a girl good and then book a spot in Bocagrande with both of y'all name on it.[/QUOTE]But in reality he gave you less info than I. He gave a name of an area (I [U]Could[/U] have given you more areas and actual building locations) that he said will not accept visitors and his advice to get around such restrictions is to get a girl (since we are on a monger forum. A hooker) you don't know, who could have the potential to steal from you (or create other unforseen issues for you did he did not inform you of by following his advice) but you admonish my advice to Read the Past Posts. SMH. A little reading would have answered you question and then some. There is a wealth of information on this forum waiting to be absorbed. Dispite your denunciation of my initial advice I still hope you have a good trip to Cartagena.
To [b]Mojo Bandit[/b]. Thanks, I see why Senior Members who have actually been to places and in the trenches rarely like to answer Newb questions.
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I'm going to be in Cartagena from July 14 - 19. I've read the past 10 pages, and it doesn't seem there's a consensus or majority opinion on where to stay? It seems anywhere in Bocagrande, El Laguito, Central walled region is fine, and hotels are generally visitor-averse and Airbnb's are more lax. Did I understand that correctly?
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[QUOTE=Orion4;2711281]I'm going to be in Cartagena from July 14 - 19. I've read the past 10 pages, and it doesn't seem there's a consensus or majority opinion on where to stay? It seems anywhere in Bocagrande, El Laguito, Central walled region is fine, and hotels are generally visitor-averse and Airbnb's are more lax. Did I understand that correctly?[/QUOTE]Not quite.
There are only 2 hotels that I know of that accept visitors and I've mentioned them multiple times on this forum.
AirBB are more laxed BUT you have to do the due diligence and read the house rules. The house rules can make a good trip go bad.
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[QUOTE=Orion4;2711281]I'm going to be in Cartagena from July 14 - 19. I've read the past 10 pages, and it doesn't seem there's a consensus or majority opinion on where to stay? It seems anywhere in Bocagrande, El Laguito, Central walled region is fine, and hotels are generally visitor-averse and Airbnb's are more lax. Did I understand that correctly?[/QUOTE]It is entirely hit or miss. I have a place in Centro that is very girl friendly, but I've been going there for years and the doormen know me. Cartagena is not a great place for beginners because the logistics are so inconsistent. I would probably go with Juan's places, but the quality isn't great from what I've seen.
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[QUOTE=Orion4;2711281]I'm going to be in Cartagena from July 14 - 19. I've read the past 10 pages, and it doesn't seem there's a consensus or majority opinion on where to stay? It seems anywhere in Bocagrande, El Laguito, Central walled region is fine, and hotels are generally visitor-averse and Airbnb's are more lax. Did I understand that correctly?[/QUOTE]Yes you pretty much got it right. Hotels are usually Visitor-Adverse (further away from tourist areas its less of a concern). When booking Airbnb's and VRBO's before you commit always contact the Host directly and inquire can you have visitors. Some have restrictions or will not allow. There are plenty properties that will allow visitors it just takes time to find then as you may have read in previous posts.
**If you do research you may find nuggets, old posts don't know if its still valid but nonetheless:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2533074&viewfull=1#post2533074[/url]
**Someone who put in the research time and found Airbnb success:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2536310&viewfull=1#post2536310[/url]
Old Posts.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2644033&viewfull=1#post2644033[/url]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2627769&viewfull=1#post2627769[/url]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2655011&viewfull=1#post2655011[/url]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2672958&viewfull=1#post2672958[/url]
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[QUOTE=UniversalX;2711495]Yes you pretty much got it right. Hotels are usually Visitor-Adverse (further away from tourist areas its less of a concern). When booking Airbnb's and VRBO's before you commit always contact the Host directly and inquire can you have visitors. Some have restrictions or will not allow. There are plenty properties that will allow visitors it just takes time to find then as you may have read in previous posts.
**If you do research you may find nuggets, old posts don't know if its still valid but nonetheless:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2533074&viewfull=1#post2533074[/url]
[/QUOTE]Just a quick warning, if the monger is taller than 5'9" they will hit their head when entering the upstairs bedroom that overlooks the living room. They will also hit the their head when using the upstairs shower. The headboard in that bedroom is also freely hanging from the ceiling so the motion starts getting crazy in the bed there will be allot of loud pounding sounds against the wall and that will cause the staff to knock of your door interrupting your session SMH. But it is only 2 blocks walk from all three puta clubs jajaja.
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I appreciate all your info and yeah the delivery was probably not the best. Maybe I was having a bit of an off day as well. I really do appreciate the tips. Also not intentionally ignoring your comments, but I only check the forums every few days or sometimes once a week. Are we friends again LOL?
Non the less, I will go through the comments when I have a bit more time. I'm looking forward to this trip.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2711146]Not butt hurt at all. I actually don't[b]........[/b] Na, I ain't going there. Anywho, You failed to see I gave you the info you were looking for you were just mad at how it was delivered.
1. RTFF.
2. Now you thank'd
But in reality he gave you less info than I. He gave a name of an area (I [U]Could[/U] have given you more areas and actual building locations) that he said will not accept visitors and his advice to get around such restrictions is to get a girl (since we are on a monger forum. A hooker) you don't know, who could have the potential to steal from you (or create other unforseen issues for you did he did not inform you of by following his advice) but you admonish my advice to Read the Past Posts. SMH. A little reading would have answered you question and then some. There is a wealth of information on this forum waiting to be absorbed. Dispite your denunciation of my initial advice I still hope you have a good trip to Cartagena.
To [b]Mojo Bandit[/b]. Thanks, I see why Senior Members who have actually been to places and in the trenches rarely like to answer Newb questions.[/QUOTE]
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Wing-girl with Benefits
Flew out from Bogota and onto Cartagena last night for the weekend. Met up with my girl at CTG where she had flown in from another city who had landed a few minutes earlier than I did. Headed to the AirBnB apartment in Bocagrande, checked in, showered, had a quickie before heading out to centro for a late dinner at Mistura Cartagena. I would highly recommend Mistura and their food.
For the lack of better word, I would label my girl who accompanies me on this trip as my wing-girl with benefits. She is bi-sexual and likes having sex with other girls too. I have brought her to Bogota last year and doing so again now to Cartagena. I had written up a report about this experience in the Bogota thread.
During dinner, it was interesting how she could spot all these escorts at the dining table and would discreetly point them out to me. After dinner, we would walk around centro and passed through the usual places like Dolce Vita. We would observe these girls and check out if any of them would be someone that we would bring back. At least her taste is similar to mine, we could not find any. All the girls that we saw were either a bunch of hardened pros, unattractive or simply out of shape. I think I am spoiled by all the beautiful girls that I had encountered in Bogota myself.
We walked to the square and went up to Miradror bar by the rooftop so that we can look down from the top, drink and have a relaxing night. From up there, we would play a game of Where's Waldo? But except now it is where's the prepagos? Along the way, I asked her if she might be interested in any of these girls in the square. She said it is not worth it because these girls are priced at a premium and they are usually under the control of agencies. I was actually surprised to hear that. Could it actually be true that these girls are actually not independent freelancers?
Then I showed her the whatsapp text that I had been corresponding with this Vennie escort to see if she might be interested in her instead. She saw her set of photos and was showing interest. I guess my girl is one that are attracted to the shapes and tones, with the facial look being secondary. My girl did something unexpected. She asked for a price from my phone, and at the same time, she initiated contact with her from her WhatsApp too. In the end, there was definitely a price differential of 100 mil between what was offered and negotiated between my account and hers. Her WhatsApp number is Colombian and in any case, I am in fact paying a gringo tax.
It was way past midnight and we were exhausted and headed back to our apartment. But that was before she had already ordered for that escort. Now, none of us can sleep until we are done with our order. When the escort arrived at the lobby, I was already in the lobby waiting for her, and she was not expecting to see me. Anyway, after registering her with security, we were up for our first session in this trip.
Up in the apartment, after the initial chit chat between the two girls, they started off with each other on the sofa slowly while I sat on the chair to watch and observe. At one point, as my girl was rubbing the clitoris of the escort with one hand while fondling the escort's big natural breast, the escort wil be moaning, and I can't take it anymore but to join in the action. The best part of the sequence was when I would be entering the escort doggie style while she was performing DATY on my girl.
Anyway, a good start to this trip. Let's see what tonight has to offer for us. Hopefully it could be something even better.
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[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2712803]Flew out from Bogota and onto Cartagena last night for the weekend. Met up with my girl at CTG where she had flown in from another city who had landed a few minutes earlier than I did. Headed to the AirBnB apartment in Bocagrande, checked in, showered, had a quickie before heading out to centro for a late dinner at Mistura Cartagena. I would highly recommend Mistura and their food.
For the lack of better word, I would label my girl who accompanies me on this trip as my wing-girl with benefits. She is bi-sexual and likes having sex with other girls too. I have brought her to Bogota last year and doing so again now to Cartagena. I had written up a report about this experience in the Bogota thread.
During dinner, it was interesting how she could spot all these escorts at the dining table and would discreetly point them out to me. After dinner, we would walk around centro and passed through the usual places like Dolce Vita. We would observe these girls and check out if any of them would be someone that we would bring back. At least her taste is similar to mine, we could not find any. All the girls that we saw were either a bunch of hardened pros, unattractive or simply out of shape. I think I am spoiled by all the beautiful girls that I had encountered in Bogota myself.
We walked to the square and went up to Miradror bar by the rooftop so that we can look down from the top, drink and have a relaxing night. From up there, we would play a game of Where's Waldo? But except now it is where's the prepagos? Along the way, I asked her if she might be interested in any of these girls in the square. She said it is not worth it because these girls are priced at a premium and they are usually under the control of agencies. I was actually surprised to hear that. Could it actually be true that these girls are actually not independent freelancers?
Then I showed her the whatsapp text that I had been corresponding with this Vennie escort to see if she might be interested in her instead. She saw her set of photos and was showing interest. I guess my girl is one that are attracted to the shapes and tones, with the facial look being secondary. My girl did something unexpected. She asked for a price from my phone, and at the same time, she initiated contact with her from her WhatsApp too. In the end, there was definitely a price differential of 100 mil between what was offered and negotiated between my account and hers. Her WhatsApp number is Colombian and in any case, I am in fact paying a gringo tax.
It was way past midnight and we were exhausted and headed back to our apartment. But that was before she had already ordered for that escort. Now, none of us can sleep until we are done with our order. When the escort arrived at the lobby, I was already in the lobby waiting for her, and she was not expecting to see me. Anyway, after registering her with security, we were up for our first session in this trip.
Up in the apartment, after the initial chit chat between the two girls, they started off with each other on the sofa slowly while I sat on the chair to watch and observe. At one point, as my girl was rubbing the clitoris of the escort with one hand while fondling the escort's big natural breast, the escort wil be moaning, and I can't take it anymore but to join in the action. The best part of the sequence was when I would be entering the escort doggie style while she was performing DATY on my girl.
Anyway, a good start to this trip. Let's see what tonight has to offer for us. Hopefully it could be something even better.[/QUOTE]That sounds like a good time dude. Does she speak English? Or you are just good at Spanish.
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The Best Threesome so far
The Saturday night started off as not looking ideal. The SA girl that I have been in touch with could not make it to meet me and my girl as she had already a family engagement. I was hoping that she could join us since she was also a bisexual. There is a threesome and then there is a threesome with girls who are both bisexuals. The experience is of a different dimension, jejeje.
It was getting late and still raining, and the road was quite a mess. Anyway, my girl and I decided to head to the clock tower again on a cab and we will decide which restaurant to go to. Just as we got to the clock tower, the SA girl called and told us that her prior engagement had been cancelled and was now able to meet with us. We asked for a restaurant recommendation and she mentioned Mistura. We chuckled since we were both there the previous night. She recommended Restaurant San Nicolas which is outside the walled city.
We grabbed a taxi and was surprised to find the restaurant still pretty packed even after past 10 pm. It was a fanciful restaurant, with a live band playing music, and it seems to be a popular restaurant for Colombian families celebrating birthday events there.
We sat, ordered drinks and waited for the SA girl to arrive. I started off with not much of a high expectation since I had seen her photos on SA and I would just say her look was GND and average. When she showed up, she looked much cuter than I expected and my girl took a liking of her.
I told her to sit next to my girl since I would make a bad conversationalist as I have to rely too much on my translator app to communicate. I can sense that both of them took a liking to each other and there was the chemistry. By the way, the food at that restaurant was not bad and if you run out of selections of good restaurants in the walled city, this can be an option.
After our dinner, we walked back to the clock tower and went to the Alquicico Bar Rooftop. I have told the SA girl that I do not like reggaeton and would prefer EDM and trance music. I guess she did not receive the memo. The Saturday night as usual was packed with people and it took us a while to get to our turn to get to the Rooftop area. The place was super packed and you could not get a table even if you want to. Anyway, it was an okay affair, given that the DJs would mostly play reggaeton, followed by salsa and merengue. Plus one could not move around much anyway.
The SA girl seemed to know a few people in the crowd, probably her friends. A few people did try to hit on her by asking if she would like to dance, and she would refuse and point to us that she is with our group. As for me, I would usually go wild in a nightclub, but the music genres turned me off. Well, anyway.
After the bar closed, we headed back together in a cab, was stopped at a checkpoint entering Bocagrande. The police would just ask the driver and the girls for their ID numbers, punched in those numbers into the phones and get them to validate their names. They simply left me alone. After we reached our building, get to register the girl and then went up to our apartment. Side note: Now many of these building no longer allow visitors. They will accept guests. That means your quota is dependent of the type of units you had rented. One bedroom, 4 guests quotas and you need to count you and whoever is staying in the quota. I had a one-room unit, and this SA girl happened to use up the last of my quota. No big deal since this was our last night. My girl mentioned that there is always a motel that we can use should we ever need to do so. LOL.
Once we got to our apartment, the girls would settle in on the sofa with a chit chat. Turned out that the SA girl is still in college there majoring in business. Nice, another college girl. After the chat, my girl went to the room to freshen up and it was just me and the SA girl at that point.
I started with the SA girl this time. This SA girl pulled no punches and was already doing a DFK as she sat and grinded on me. As her blouses and her bars came off, there was this pair of nice pair of nice soft breasts that felt so good both in my hands and mouth. We were getting started.
Now my girl was ready, came out from her room in her lingerie and joined in with us. We would take turn kissing and kiss together at the same. The girls would go down on each other and also take turn sucking me. It was a three way interactions and that was just foreplay.
As bisexuals, both girls know how hit the critical pleasure areas and those are keys in threesome like this, and they have no inhibition in pleasuring me as well. Anyway, a great night overall.
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Amazing
Sounds like you had an amazing time! I hope to have just as much luck and fun when I am there!
[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2713653]The Saturday night started off as not looking ideal. The SA girl that I have been in touch with could not make it to meet me and my girl as she had already a family engagement. I was hoping that she could join us since she was also a bisexual. There is a threesome and then there is a threesome with girls who are both bisexuals. The experience is of a different dimension, jejeje.
It was getting late and still raining, and the road was quite a mess. Anyway, my girl and I decided to head to the clock tower again on a cab and we will decide which restaurant to go to. Just as we got to the clock tower, the SA girl called and told us that her prior engagement had been cancelled and was now able to meet with us. We asked for a restaurant recommendation and she mentioned Mistura. We chuckled since we were both there the previous night. She recommended Restaurant San Nicolas which is outside the walled city.
We grabbed a taxi and was surprised to find the restaurant still pretty packed even after past 10 pm. It was a fanciful restaurant, with a live band playing music, and it seems to be a popular restaurant for Colombian families celebrating birthday events there.
We sat, ordered drinks and waited for the SA girl to arrive. I started off with not much of a high expectation since I had seen her photos on SA and I would just say her look was GND and average. When she showed up, she looked much cuter than I expected and my girl took a liking of her.
I told her to sit next to my girl since I would make a bad conversationalist as I have to rely too much on my translator app to communicate. I can sense that both of them took a liking to each other and there was the chemistry. By the way, the food at that restaurant was not bad and if you run out of selections of good restaurants in the walled city, this can be an option..[/QUOTE]
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420 help
Anyone with a good weed connect in Cartagena? I'm here now with my girl from Bogota. Hit me up
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[QUOTE=GMoney582;2714377]Anyone with a good weed connect in Cartagena? I'm here now with my girl from Bogota. Hit me up[/QUOTE]Send me PM and will share you the contact for weed and other stuff.
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Cartagena Girls
Hello folks,
Hope all is doing well. I am planning on a trip to Cartagena soon and reached out to my usual girls to check if they are available. Most of them are available and they have also agree to share their contact. I know most folks does not like to share contacts of the chica but I have no problem sharing as long as the girl agrees. I have meet these girls couple of times and are very nice and sexy Colombian and Venezuelan. Please PM me if anyone is interested and you can take this girls to trip in Cholon and other island and also roam around the city which I did and it was lot of fun. Very safe and clean girls. Another point they can also get you weed and other stuff but I have a separate contact for that as well.
Happy Mongering everyone And be safe and happy to help in any way.
Cheers.
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[QUOTE=ElPapi;2714398]Hello folks,
Hope all is doing well. I am planning on a trip to Cartagena soon and reached out to my usual girls to check if they are available. Most of them are available and they have also agree to share their contact. I know most folks does not like to share contacts of the chica but I have no problem sharing as long as the girl agrees. I have meet these girls couple of times and are very nice and sexy Colombian and Venezuelan. Please PM me if anyone is interested and you can take this girls to trip in Cholon and other island and also roam around the city which I did and it was lot of fun. Very safe and clean girls. Another point they can also get you weed and other stuff but I have a separate contact for that as well.
Happy Mongering everyone And be safe and happy to help in any way.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]That makes me want to get on a plane tomorrow!
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[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2714503]That makes me want to get on a plane tomorrow![/QUOTE]LOL when are you planning to come to cartegana. I will send you a PM with the contacts. I remember you gave me some information also before.
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[QUOTE=ElPapi;2714649]LOL when are you planning to come to cartegana. I will send you a PM with the contacts. I remember you gave me some information also before.[/QUOTE]I am coming in a week from today any help for us non-premium members? Seems like you can't pm on this forum without that.
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Cartagena is doing just fine!
Old city is full with people! Girls everywhere Dolce is full of any type you want. Space was also full last night. Fking homies started throwing money in the air that was our que to bounce. Tinder is also full of talent. Last minute had to rent a 9 bedroom in Gatsemani with a friend. I know the host gives me decent deal but I like my privacy. I want to come and as I please that's why I stick with houses. I know it's more expensive but it's worth it for me. If anyone is around hit me up I'm here till Monday then off to Medellin coming back to Cartagena July 7th.
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How is Plaza de LOS Coches (aka clock tower)
[QUOTE=FrankBills007;2715427]Old city is full with people! Girls everywhere Dolce is full of any type you want. Space was also full last night. Fking homies started throwing money in the air that was our que to bounce. Tinder is also full of talent. Last minute had to rent a 9 bedroom in Gatsemani with a friend. I know the host gives me decent deal but I like my privacy. I want to come and as I please that's why I stick with houses. I know it's more expensive but it's worth it for me. If anyone is around hit me up I'm here till Monday then off to Medellin coming back to Cartagena July 7th.[/QUOTE]I am glad you are having a great time. I have been to Cartagena several times but have not been since the supposed "crack down" on sex tourism by the mayor. Not a lot they can actually do since prostitution is legal in Colombia but there were posts about the police not allowing the chicas to hang out in Plaza de LOS Coches (aka the gringo name clock tower) - is the open market of Plaza de LOS Coches still being shut down by the police or is it like it was before.
Check out this video if you have not seen it at its busiest. At 3:42 in this video it shows it fairly busy with chicas.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdTShmXFG2Y[/URL]
The video shows it moderately buys with chicas at 1:06 in the video then.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YSY5hNbniI[/URL]
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Prices
Reached out to my contact he told me prices has gone up. Is it better to pay in COP or USD? I browsed the forum and it seems like the going rate is 300 k 1 HR and 6-700 k for 3+ more hours. Does any one have any intel? Coming next week.
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[QUOTE=Cumisher;2717180]Reached out to my contact he told me prices has gone up. Is it better to pay in COP or USD? I browsed the forum and it seems like the going rate is 300 k 1 HR and 6-700 k for 3+ more hours. Does any one have any intel? Coming next week.[/QUOTE]Never pay in dollars. The USD is rising relative to almost all currencies due to rising rates. The Colombian peso is as weak vs the dollar as it has been historically. Pay in pesos and enjoy.
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[QUOTE=FrankBills007;2715427]Fking homies started throwing money in the air that was our que to bounce. [/QUOTE]Why I cringe sometimes at the thought of visiting Cartagena. Seems like it has become the new Sosua.
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[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2717518]Never pay in dollars. The USD is rising relative to almost all currencies due to rising rates. The Colombian peso is as weak vs the dollar as it has been historically. Pay in pesos and enjoy.[/QUOTE]Thanks for insight. Anyone have updated pricing? Would is there difference between picking up chicas yourself versus having A contact send you like a list of 20 girls? I just want to figure out what the difference in price is. Might be worth it to have someone else do the homework for you.
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Anyone seen a girl named Hanna she is on Tinder
Has anyone ever seen a girl named Hanna. She is tall around 5'9" and black. She is well dressed. I tried to upload a photo but it would not let me.
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[QUOTE=Cumisher;2717603]Thanks for insight. Anyone have updated pricing? Would is there difference between picking up chicas yourself versus having A contact send you like a list of 20 girls? I just want to figure out what the difference in price is. Might be worth it to have someone else do the homework for you.[/QUOTE]Pricing is incredibly variable.
1. Are you good looking? Young? White? Why'all? Thin?
- I'm not white, but there is an obvious preference, especially younger white guys. Just the way it is.
2. Do you speak Spanish?
- A huge plus if you can. Your chances of meeting a girl who speaks even a few phrases of English is slim. Not knowing Spanish is a clear sign of a potential mark they can charge high rates.
3. Where did you meet her?
- meet her at a Centro club on a Saturday? She's going to upcharge. Same girl in Bocagrande on the beach can be had a lot easier.
4. Chance for repeat?
- if she thinks you'll be there a while, she will want to keep seeing you and won't try to rip you off. Say you'll be around a few weeks and the price will get better. She thinks she might be able to get a Baru trip out of you if not a week long girlfriend situation which is way better.
It's going to depend is the short answer.
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[QUOTE=TubeDriver;2717624]Has anyone ever seen a girl named Hanna. She is tall around 5'9" and black. She is well dressed. I tried to upload a photo but it would not let me.[/QUOTE]On any given night there are hundreds of chicas working around in Cartagena. There are the chicas in the clubs, there are chicas in the streets, there are chicas in strip clubs, there are chicas in casas, there are chicas on Tinder, there are chicas on the escort websites. So your question is a little vague to anyone. You did not mention where you saw the photo, that might narrow down the pool some for someone to have something to associate the name with.
P.S. The vast majority of them are well dressed.
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[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2717845]Pricing is incredibly variable.
1. Are you good looking? Young? White? Why'all? Thin?
- I'm not white, but there is an obvious preference, especially younger white guys. Just the way it is.
2. Do you speak Spanish?
- A huge plus if you can. Your chances of meeting a girl who speaks even a few phrases of English is slim. Not knowing Spanish is a clear sign of a potential mark they can charge high rates.
3. Where did you meet her?
- meet her at a Centro club on a Saturday? She's going to upcharge. Same girl in Bocagrande on the beach can be had a lot easier.
.[/QUOTE]I am sorry to disagree but these myths keep rising up and they are all part of someone's imagination. I can agree that if you meet her on the beach during the day then you might get a better rate thanyou meet her in Dolce Vita at night , certainly time and location makes a difference . But as far as the mongers looks making any difference or whether or not they speak Spanish makes a difference I have to say I disagree. I have a translator in my hand so I know what they are saying and numbers are numbers - there are no language barriers in the age of Google Translate. Out of the dozen or so times that I have been to Cartagena I have always gotten the same or better prices as everyone else reports and I am old and fat and I do not speak English. I am a charming son of a gun, but that is still just lipstick on a pig. LOL. Over the years this comes up. That guys get a discount becuase they are younger. Or becuase they speak spanish. But the vast majority of the people who have been reporting on here for the last ten years say that is not true. The rate is the rate. These chicas are trying to make money. I think what varies is how desperate the chica is for money sometimes.
The later it is at night the better the chance of getting a lower rate because the chica does not want to go home empty handed. Back in the a few years ago Dolce Vita was in the shopping center down in La Guito and it would start shutting down around 12 midnight but there was a second club called Elektra down in the old city and it opened at 12 midnight and stayed open until like 3 am. If you walked into Elektra and saw a chica that had been in Dolce Vita earlier and she had not left Dolce Vita with anyone. Then you knew she was going to either take a lower rate or she would do TLN for the same price as ST and you could hit it in the morning when you woke up.
My point is its about economics. And ove the years this has been discussed at lenght. The majority of these chicas are out for the money. You might find an exception that wants to party and will take less money for partying and hanging with a younger dude but I am fairly sure it is the exception and not the rule.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2717872]and I do not speak English.[/QUOTE]You must be using one hell of a translator!
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2717872]That guys get a discount because they are younger. Or because they speak Spanish. But the vast majority of the people who have been reporting on here for the last ten years say that is not true. The rate is the rate. These chicas are trying to make money.[/QUOTE]I think what you say is true in most cases around the mongering world. You can talk them down, but they are not talking mongers up. They give everybody the same initial price. Unless maybe you are balling out of control and they see you throwing money around like it is no object. The only difference I see in most reports is guys that negotiate them down and guys that agree to the first number they are given. I will add though another demographic. That is guys that will cave and pay more when a chick tells them that costs extra. There are other guys that say bullshit. This price I am paying includes it all.
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Fake News!
[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2717845]Pricing is incredibly variable.
1. Are you good looking? Young? White? Why'all? Thin?
- I'm not white, but there is an obvious preference, especially younger white guys. Just the way it is.
2. Do you speak Spanish?
- A huge plus if you can. Your chances of meeting a girl who speaks even a few phrases of English is slim. Not knowing Spanish is a clear sign of a potential mark they can charge high rates.
3. Where did you meet her?
- meet her at a Centro club on a Saturday? She's going to up charge. Same girl in Bocagrande on the beach can be had a lot easier.
4. Chance for repeat?
- if she thinks you'll be there a while, she will want to keep seeing you and won't try to rip you off. Say you'll be around a few weeks and the price will get better. She thinks she might be able to get a Baru trip out of you if not a week long girlfriend situation which is way better.
It's going to depend is the short answer.[/QUOTE]Your money is your passport to pussy, period. Your look, race don't matter unless you're talking about general dating which of course people have preference anywhere. No such thing really w working girls, unless directed by pimps or typical rare prejudice you may encounter (USA especially). Otherwise it's all about money. Yes you have may have a girl approach you at the bar first bc you dress nice, look good, but she'll ditch you in a sec if the ugliest dude offers her more money. So MF please LOL.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2717872]I do not speak English.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2717884]You must be using one hell of a translator!
[/QUOTE]LOL! Good catch! I did not proof read that one. I am pretty sure that I meant that I do not speak Spanish! - good catch and thanks for pointing that out to me.
As is most of the time. I agree with what you added to the conversation. Guys that negotiate are going to get a better deal. Many chicas I have gotten to know openly say that they are up bidding with their first price and expect the monger to come back with a lower price.
I do not know if it is part of the culture some chicas have told me that that when they go to the local flea market in their own neighborhood they learn haggling and expect it to happen in any transaction other than brick and mortar retail.
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Looks like I'm paying a lot cause I'm one old ugly mofo who doesn't speak Spanish. LOL.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2717872]I am sorry to disagree but these myths keep rising up and they are all part of someone's imagination. I can agree that if you meet her on the beach during the day then you might get a better rate thanyou meet her in Dolce Vita at night , certainly time and location makes a difference . But as far as the mongers looks making any difference or whether or not they speak Spanish makes a difference I have to say I disagree. I have a translator in my hand so I know what they are saying and numbers are numbers - there are no language barriers in the age of Google Translate. Out of the dozen or so times that I have been to Cartagena I have always gotten the same or better prices as everyone else reports and I am old and fat and I do not speak English. I am a charming son of a gun, but that is still just lipstick on a pig. LOL. Over the years this comes up. That guys get a discount becuase they are younger. Or becuase they speak spanish. But the vast majority of the people who have been reporting on here for the last ten years say that is not true. The rate is the rate. These chicas are trying to make money. I think what varies is how desperate the chica is for money sometimes.
The later it is at night the better the chance of getting a lower rate because the chica does not want to go home empty handed. Back in the a few years ago Dolce Vita was in the shopping center down in La Guito and it would start shutting down around 12 midnight but there was a second club called Elektra down in the old city and it opened at 12 midnight and stayed open until like 3 am. If you walked into Elektra and saw a chica that had been in Dolce Vita earlier and she had not left Dolce Vita with anyone. Then you knew she was going to either take a lower rate or she would do TLN for the same price as ST and you could hit it in the morning when you woke up.
My point is its about economics. And ove the years this has been discussed at lenght. The majority of these chicas are out for the money. You might find an exception that wants to party and will take less money for partying and hanging with a younger dude but I am fairly sure it is the exception and not the rule.[/QUOTE]Please keep in mind that the vast majority of folks who frequent this forum are older and do not speak Spanish anywhere near a passable level, so you all should be paying similar prices.
Your looks 100% do matter. You just don't know the difference because you haven't observed it. I was in Cartagena in 2019 with some friends. I'm younger, taller, and much better looking than the buddy I was prowling Torre del Reloj with. He didn't speak Spanish and they were quoting him in dollars at ridiculous amounts. Me speaking Spanish brought the same chica down significantly.
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[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2717902]Your money is your passport to pussy, period. Your look, race don't matter unless you're talking about general dating which of course people have preference anywhere. No such thing really w working girls, unless directed by pimps or typical rare prejudice you may encounter (USA especially). Otherwise it's all about money. Yes you have may have a girl approach you at the bar first bc you dress nice, look good, but she'll ditch you in a sec if the ugliest dude offers her more money. So MF please LOL.[/QUOTE]That doesn't dispute what I said. Of course, these chicas will have sex with you. That's their job. Will they charge you more was the question and they clearly will.
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[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2718259]That doesn't dispute what I said. Of course, these chicas will have sex with you. That's their job. Will they charge you more was the question and they clearly will.[/QUOTE]How do you know it is one person being charged more and not the other person being charged less?
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Don't let this be you
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/CfvWTKngpjZ/[/URL]
[URL]https://twitter.com/PoliticaHeroica/status/1545282499961569283?s=20&t=NdqytnWheTPck1CzxpXt5w[/URL]
One of my chicas sent this to me and I thought the one in the white pants was one of my chicas as she have the same body type slim with big natural tits but it wasn't her.
That English man wasn't ready. Now if the cops get involved he will have to pay her and the cops to make the problem go away.
The good ole problems of Sosua finding its way to CTG.
Don't let this be you especially if you're a solo traveler.
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[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2718257]Please keep in mind that the vast majority of folks who frequent this forum are older and do not speak Spanish anywhere near a passable level, so you all should be paying similar prices.
Your looks 100% do matter. You just don't know the difference because you haven't observed it. I was in Cartagena in 2019 with some friends. I'm younger, taller, and much better looking than the buddy I was prowling Torre del Reloj with. He didn't speak Spanish and they were quoting him in dollars at ridiculous amounts. Me speaking Spanish brought the same chica down significantly.[/QUOTE]I am not going to negate what you say. I am going to take it in and add it to the experiences I have heard people say they have had. I will consider that this is sometimes true. But these claims of guys getting better rates beccuase they are younger or because they speak spanish were never true in the past. Also let me elaborate on what I base my knowledge on since you referred to my writing that it is what is said by most people who post on this forum. I have been to Cartagena over a dozen times and I have met and talked to people of all ages and all sorts of ethnicities (I once had a 28 year old wingman who was of Indian descent but spoke perfect Spanish. I know many chicas thought he was attracive because he actually hooked up with a lot non pros who were hot. But when he mongered he got the same rates that I did) - I have talked to guys of all ages. I have acted as a tour guide for many a young whippersnapper who was just learning the ropes. Then compared notes after the went out on their own, so I am not basing my knowledge on just the reports on this forum. If you go back far enough you will see that I have made many long detailed reports about Cartagena (not sure the forum lets one go back that far).
I have had regular chicas I could call when I got into town and repeated them with on regular basis who often gave me a better rate than I would have gotten in Plaze de Los Coches or LDV. But I am still old and fat and do not speak Spanish. I believe they just took a lower rate because it was guaranteed money and I was a repeat customer. I have been with what I call the semi-pros becuase they only see men on certain occassions when they really need money and I have been with non pros that I have spent entire weekends with. All the while learning as much as possible from them about the scene.
But all my experiences are separated from the fact that the scene is evolving. Now there are a lot more idiots going down there. YouTubers trying to make a show of it, and all sorts. I have been going to Cartagena since before someone could carry a translator in your pocket. There once was a guy here on the forum who would sell you the recordings of how do pronounce certain sentences and expressions in Spanish that you would need to know. In the early days I had to use Google translate in my apartment on my laptop beucause there were no smart phones. I had to memorize everything before I left the apartment. Write some things down but I did not want to be seen reading off a paper so I memorized most. If she started talking and I couldn't understand then I would just repeat myself. Stating what I was willing to pay and for what services. I think it made me look stubborn so the chicas knew that because of my limited Spanish I would either accept yes or no. And there were times I walked away and the next chica knew for sure that I would walk away. There were way more chicas than mongers back then and it is a market like any other.
Again though I repeat even with all that being said the scene there has been changing since the early days and it keeps changing. I used to not see another "Estadounidense" all day. My first trip I did not meet even one other tourist from the USA. Just one Canadian. There were some guys from the USA there but they were not tourists they were there for work. I could spot the DEA guys who used to hang out in the old La Dolce Vita in Laguito before that moron Secret Service Agent screwed up that gig for them. They were easy to spot becuase they all have the same haircut and they way everone who worked in the place greeted them like they knew them. Like they were very regular. Otherwise though not many people from USA. Not only were the narco terrorist bombings still fresh on everyones minds but in those days the airport was tiny compared to now and when leaving the country my luggage would get a thorough search by military clad guys with machine guns. It was very third worldish. So who could blame people who did not want to go? Then Colombia started chainging its image through tourist advertising and in Cartagena a more civilized airport experience.
Since then the number of USA gringos has grown exponetially and they have brought their ignorance of the local economy and their arrogance and the scene has changed. But even back in the old days there were people saying the same things but when I was on the ground I never witnessed it. If there are people getting better rates than more power to them. I just still think it is probably the exception and not the rule.
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[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2717902]Your money is your passport to pussy, period. Your look, race don't matter unless you're talking about general dating which of course people have preference anywhere. No such thing really w working girls, unless directed by pimps or typical rare prejudice you may encounter (USA especially). Otherwise it's all about money. Yes you have may have a girl approach you at the bar first bc you dress nice, look good, but she'll ditch you in a sec if the ugliest dude offers her more money. So MF please LOL.[/QUOTE]Money buys you a ticket on the ride but all the other factors very much impact the quality of the experience. If you are pump and dump guy, it does not matter, But if you want amazing GFE, then looks, how you treat a woman, your skill in bed, your Spanish speaking ability, your temparment, all impact the nature of the experience. That is just human nature.
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Agreed
[QUOTE=Psychman;2718464]Money buys you a ticket on the ride but all the other factors very much impact the quality of the experience. If you are pump and dump guy, it does not matter, But if you want amazing GFE, then looks, how you treat a woman, your skill in bed, your Spanish speaking ability, your temparment, all impact the nature of the experience. That is just human nature.[/QUOTE]Most chicas probably quote the same price initially no matter how handsome or young you are because they don't know you or what the experience will be like for them. If you are decent looking, treat them well, have a nice place and they like your dick you will likely get a good offer for repeat business. Like a good daily rate with extra services.
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[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2717902]Your money is your passport to pussy, period. Your look, race don't matter unless you're talking about general dating which of course people have preference anywhere. No such thing really w working girls, unless directed by pimps or typical rare prejudice you may encounter (USA especially). Otherwise it's all about money. Yes you have may have a girl approach you at the bar first bc you dress nice, look good, but she'll ditch you in a sec if the ugliest dude offers her more money. So MF please LOL.[/QUOTE]Actually not true. Maybe in your experience it is, but in reality it's not.
I've been living between Colombia and Brazil for over 20 years, average looking guy I guess, but good at the gab, and good at spanish and portuguese.
If you're good at the gab and can vibe with them, and better yet, good looking, you'll definitely get a better price. No doubt.
And yes, lots will choose you over an ugly, grumpy cat offering a bit more.
Maybe not the total hard core types, but many will.
They're still human beings, and girls of course, lol.
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Is there a particular strategy to find the college girls?
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2718458]Since then the number of USA gringos has grown exponetially and they have brought their ignorance of the local economy and their arrogance and the scene has changed. But even back in the old days there were people saying the same things but when I was on the ground I never witnessed it. If there are people getting better rates than more power to them. I just still think it is probably the exception and not the rule.[/QUOTE]I agree. IMO you can tell the amateur men because they make comments like women like guys who are attractive, can dance ETC. If you think all women are the same, you have already lost. When guys say women like handsome men, what they really are saying is I am handsome and women should like me.
Thing is my current gal was not into looks and my age did not bother her. She got pregnant by a guy who abused her and hit her and she wanted the opposite of that. In my case, I was fun, supportive, not macho, and basically the opposite of her ex. She cares very little about money and just wanted a quality companion.
Her daughter is cute. If you are not Korean, she is not interested in you. It has amazed me how much she and her GFs are so in love with the K-pop stars. They are like the Beatles were in the 60's.
My gal was the second best looking I ever met in Colombia. The best was a pure WG. She would like whomever gave her the most cash. She is probably with some millionaire or billionaire type now.
Then there was the beauty queen I met in Cartagena. She was looking for a smart man she could order around. Weird I know but that is how she was. She was a star in the community, worked for government, ran a charity. I think she may have been shooting to be a pol some day. So she wanted like a man who could be like a first lady was to the POTUS: smart, supportive, behind the scenes, helpful ETC. She really did not care about looks or money either but she was always frustrated with not getting enough help from people.
With me, not only did I want to know what the woman was about. I wanted to see if the woman was the type I liked. The beauty queen shocked me with her controlling, judging, and ordering me around. I think people would be shocked that with both her and the #1 beauty, I ran from them after having sex with them once. They were not what I was looking for. The BQ was a little hurt that I did so.
Thing is if a girl is a pure WG then she is just going to be about the cash. I doubt most WGs care that much about looks or much else. To me, looks can come into play when the woman is much less than just a pure WG. So yeah, with a girl who just wants to have some help but not totally into the $, looks IMO can certainly play a role.
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719929]I agree. IMO you can tell the amateur men because they make comments like women like guys who are attractive, can dance ETC. If you think all women are the same, you have already lost. When guys say women like handsome men, what they really are saying is I am handsome and women should like me.
Thing is my current gal was not into looks and my age did not bother her. She got pregnant by a guy who abused her and hit her and she wanted the opposite of that. In my case, I was fun, supportive, not macho, and basically the opposite of her ex. She cares very little about money and just wanted a quality companion.
Her daughter is cute. If you are not Korean, she is not interested in you. It has amazed me how much she and her GFs are so in love with the K-pop stars. They are like the Beatles were in the 60's.
My gal was the second best looking I ever met in Colombia. The best was a pure WG. She would like whomever gave her the most cash. She is probably with some millionaire or billionaire type now.
Then there was the beauty queen I met in Cartagena. She was looking for a smart man she could order around. Weird I know but that is how she was. She was a star in the community, worked for government, ran a charity. I think she may have been shooting to be a pol some day. So she wanted like a man who could be like a first lady was to the POTUS: smart, supportive, behind the scenes, helpful ETC. She really did not care about looks or money either but she was always frustrated with not getting enough help from people.
With me, not only did I want to know what the woman was about. I wanted to see if the woman was the type I liked. The beauty queen shocked me with her controlling, judging, and ordering me around. I think people would be shocked that with both her and the #1 beauty, I ran from them after having sex with them once. They were not what I was looking for. The BQ was a little hurt that I did so.
Thing is if a girl is a pure WG then she is just going to be about the cash. I doubt most WGs care that much about looks or much else. To me, looks can come into play when the woman is much less than just a pure WG. So yeah, with a girl who just wants to have some help but not totally into the $, looks IMO can certainly play a role.[/QUOTE]Is this your roundabout way of saying your gal likes you because you're Korean?
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[QUOTE=Orion4;2719996]Is this your roundabout way of saying your gal likes you because you're Korean?[/QUOTE]LOL. Yeah, that is it. You got me.
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First trip planned
Planned my first trip for the 26th - 29th! A couple of questions:
1. I see on this thread that high end is going from 300 - 500 k at night (with beginner xp, of course. That will be me too). I'm seeing high end "verified" on skokka for 90 k. Why not just invite them out?
2. Are these girls open to being on camera? How much more would they typically ask for?
3. If you are looking to have a session with say. 3 polvos. Is there leverage to negotiate the price per polvos (PPP) down? I understand to not pay all up front.
4. I've seen some stories of people basically developing a weekend girlfriend. Does this situation ever turn into "You spent the whole day with me. That will be 800000 cop"?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=GringoAdvent;2720556]Planned my first trip for the 26th - 29th! A couple of questions:
1. I see on this thread that high end is going from 300 - 500 k at night (with beginner xp, of course. That will be me too). I'm seeing high end "verified" on skokka for 90 k. Why not just invite them out?
2. Are these girls open to being on camera? How much more would they typically ask for?
3. If you are looking to have a session with say. 3 polvos. Is there leverage to negotiate the price per polvos (PPP) down? I understand to not pay all up front.
4. I've seen some stories of people basically developing a weekend girlfriend. Does this situation ever turn into "You spent the whole day with me. That will be 800000 cop"?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have twice spent 3 full days with a chica for $200/ day plus meals / drinks with unlimited BBFS when the exchange rate was around 4,000. Took one to Playa Blanca for the day. They were both among the hotest chicas on SA.
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[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2720737]I have twice spent 3 full days with a chica for $200/ day plus meals / drinks with unlimited BBFS when the exchange rate was around 4,000. Took one to Playa Blanca for the day. They were both among the hotest chicas on SA.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that is how you do it. Leave the cheaper (and less attractive) gals to the ex pats and locals. I was flying to CTG for $300 at the beginning of the year. My next flight there is on Spirit and is $600+ (American was $1000). Given how cheap it still is to go to Mexico, unless you are going to stay a month or more, only reason to go to Colombia IMO is the top quality women.
FWIW, I met my gal in Guatemala City. Cost of flights for both her and I were similar to Mexico, and I liked the city. It was safe and actually nicer than most Mexican cities (and all Colombian ones), and there is not going to be the hassle with customs some Colombian women get in Mexico. I was able to get a nonstop and flight time is about the same as to Cancun.
Point is if you find a Colombian girl you like and are stretched for time, GC is a good halfway point.
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2720894]Yeah, that is how you do it. Leave the cheaper (and less attractive) gals to the ex pats and locals. I was flying to CTG for $300 at the beginning of the year. My next flight there is on Spirit and is $600+ (American was $1000). Given how cheap it still is to go to Mexico, unless you are going to stay a month or more, only reason to go to Colombia IMO is the top quality women.
FWIW, I met my gal in Guatemala City. Cost of flights for both her and I were similar to Mexico, and I liked the city. It was safe and actually nicer than most Mexican cities (and all Colombian ones), and there is not going to be the hassle with customs some Colombian women get in Mexico. I was able to get a nonstop and flight time is about the same as to Cancun.
Point is if you find a Colombian girl you like and are stretched for time, GC is a good halfway point.[/QUOTE]One of the girls actually stayed the fourth night at no charge we were having such a great time. I like to swim in a warm ocean everyday when on vacation so CTG works well for me. I stay in Boca in an oceanfront modern condo airbnb. I have also used SA with success in Playa del Carmen. Next trip is to Santa Marta to visit one of them. That's where she lives. She took a 6 hour bus ride to get to CTG.
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719929]I agree. IMO you can tell the amateur men because they make comments like women like guys who are attractive, can dance ETC. If you think all women are the same, you have already lost. When guys say women like handsome men, what they really are saying is I am handsome and women should like me.
Thing is my current gal was not into looks and my age did not bother her. She got pregnant by a guy who abused her and hit her and she wanted the opposite of that. In my case, I was fun, supportive, not macho, and basically the opposite of her ex. She cares very little about money and just wanted a quality companion.
Her daughter is cute. If you are not Korean, she is not interested in you. It has amazed me how much she and her GFs are so in love with the K-pop stars. They are like the Beatles were in the 60's.
My gal was the second best looking I ever met in Colombia. The best was a pure WG. She would like whomever gave her the most cash. She is probably with some millionaire or billionaire type now.
Then there was the beauty queen I met in Cartagena. She was looking for a smart man she could order around. Weird I know but that is how she was. She was a star in the community, worked for government, ran a charity. I think she may have been shooting to be a pol some day. So she wanted like a man who could be like a first lady was to the POTUS: smart, supportive, behind the scenes, helpful ETC. She really did not care about looks or money either but she was always frustrated with not getting enough help from people.[/QUOTE]Where are you finding the Asian-obsessed / interested girls in CTG / MDE? I'm Asian too (though most people think I looked mixed) and currently visiting Cartagena and will visit Medellin afterwards.
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K-pop and Korean Dramas
[QUOTE=Py141;2721376]Where are you finding the Asian-obsessed / interested girls in CTG / MDE? I'm Asian too (though most people think I looked mixed) and currently visiting Cartagena and will visit Medellin afterwards.[/QUOTE]It might be more common than one would think, now that the OP has mentioned about some younger generation's like for K-pop. One of the college girl that I met in Bogota on my last trip was also into K-Pop and Korean drama series on Netflix. She was into BlackPink and even wanted me to play their music as we had sex. I find it odd, but whatever, if it turns her on, I am all for it.
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[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2721416]It might be more common than one would think, now that the OP has mentioned about some younger generation's like for K-pop. One of the college girl that I met in Bogota on my last trip was also into K-Pop and Korean drama series on Netflix. She was into BlackPink and even wanted me to play their music as we had sex. I find it odd, but whatever, if it turns her on, I am all for it.[/QUOTE]I think it's just a select group of girls (mostly younger I think?) into that stuff. Personally, I would never get romantically involved with someone who has an Asian fetish arising from k pop / drama, but one night stands are OK. Did you meet your college girl through a dating app? I was mostly just curious if there was a particular source I look into for finding these kind of girls. I know there are some k pop specific clubs in Medellin, but I didn't plan on going (I don't listen to k pop at all).
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You will fit right in with the rest Asians
[QUOTE=Py141;2721376]Where are you finding the Asian-obsessed / interested girls in CTG / MDE? I'm Asian too (though most people think I looked mixed) and currently visiting Cartagena and will visit Medellin afterwards.[/QUOTE]Did you see my report from last month about the house in Centro filled with the Asian men?
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2707726&viewfull=1#post2707726[/URL]
For reference, this was the AirBB she was talking about that the Asian men were staying in.
[URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/26671174[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Py141;2721376]Where are you finding the Asian-obsessed / interested girls in CTG / MDE? I'm Asian too (though most people think I looked mixed) and currently visiting Cartagena and will visit Medellin afterwards.[/QUOTE]LOL. I am not Asian. I was being sarcastic. My gal has a teenage daughter. She has not dated but when I showed her some parts of Mexico that had Korean shops, and she said to her mother's horror "If we live there, maybe I can have a Korean boyfriend. " It was having a BF not a Korean that scared my gal.
It is funny when I grew up in the 80's there was a song "I think I am turning Japanese" and it kind of described a white guy becoming more of a geek buy turning Asian / Japanese, and here we are a few decades later and Asians have gone from geek to chic. It cracks me up how things change.
It is not just her, but all of her friends are nuts about Asian guys particularly Koreans. This generation thinks Koreans are the best dancers in the world, but this is definitely the young teen set so I would shoot for the 18 to 20 year olds if you are Asian. I do not know if you can pull it off but look at the guys from BTS and dress and try to dance like them as best you can and from what I have seen, you will have women throwing themselves at you.
My gal is in her early 30's and could care less about dating someone Asian. Her daughter is eighteen years younger and it is not just her but her generation that is gaga over Asians. It really is with them like it was with the Beatles in the 1960's, and I hope you can cash in on that bro.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2721539]Did you see my report from last month about the house in Centro filled with the Asian men?
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2707726&viewfull=1#post2707726[/URL]
For reference, this was the AirBB she was talking about that the Asian men were staying in.
[URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/26671174[/URL][/QUOTE]I just saw it, but I guess I don't understand how this is relevant to my question?
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[QUOTE=Py141;2721703]I just saw it, but I guess I don't understand how this is relevant to my question?[/QUOTE]You don't have to go looking for them, as soon as you step inside one of the puta clubs or clock tower area, they will try to get your attention as soon as they see your face. It will mostly be the ones under 25 who probably haven't experienced an Asian man yet so they want to try.
Allot of these girls are curious or heard things from their friends and want to see for themselves if it's true or not so curiosity gets them every time. You will have your pick of the litter when you get there.
For proof of concept, try Tinder, set you location to Centro and age range from 18 - 35 and see what comes your way.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2721734]You don't have to go looking for them, as soon as you step inside one of the puta clubs or clock tower area, they will try to get your attention as soon as they see your face. It will mostly be the ones under 25 who probably haven't experienced an Asian man yet so they want to try.
Allot of these girls are curious or heard things from their friends and want to see for themselves if it's true or not so curiosity gets them every time. You will have your pick of the litter when you get there.
For proof of concept, try Tinder, set you location to Centro and age range from 18 - 35 and see what comes your way.[/QUOTE]Ahh I see. I went to the clock tower, and some girls came up to me. I was just standing there and observing. They asked me for 250 k / HR, and I said "no" and they were like "200 k / HR" and I said "no" and then they walked away. Also some cops came by to check their bags (for drugs / weapons? But they weren't particular attractive. 5 or 6 I guess, so I wouldn't have slept with them even if it was free. I feel like if I'm going to pay for sex, they better be a 10? Idk, I'm not at the age (late 20's) where I feel like I need to pay (or pay a lot in this case) for sex.
I've also found Colombian women to be so flakey, more so than women in general. Yeah I'm making a blanket statement from anecdotal experience, but I met a bunch of women from this app called Meeff, and like they all flaked, except for a few.
I downloaded Tinder a couple days ago. They always ask me to message them on whatsapp after 2 messages, and I've erred on the side of caution and not messaged them because idk if they're even real. One time I gave a person on tinder my number and I started getting spam texts from all many different numbers.
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2721599]LOL. I am not Asian. I was being sarcastic. My gal has a teenage daughter. She has not dated but when I showed her some parts of Mexico that had Korean shops, and she said to her mother's horror "If we live there, maybe I can have a Korean boyfriend. " It was having a BF not a Korean that scared my gal.
It is funny when I grew up in the 80's there was a song "I think I am turning Japanese" and it kind of described a white guy becoming more of a geek buy turning Asian / Japanese, and here we are a few decades later and Asians have gone from geek to chic. It cracks me up how things change.
It is not just her, but all of her friends are nuts about Asian guys particularly Koreans. This generation thinks Koreans are the best dancers in the world, but this is definitely the young teen set so I would shoot for the 18 to 20 year olds if you are Asian. I do not know if you can pull it off but look at the guys from BTS and dress and try to dance like them as best you can and from what I have seen, you will have women throwing themselves at you.
My gal is in her early 30's and could care less about dating someone Asian. Her daughter is eighteen years younger and it is not just her but her generation that is gaga over Asians. It really is with them like it was with the Beatles in the 1960's, and I hope you can cash in on that bro.[/QUOTE]I think most of these girls can't tell the difference between eastern Asians, so I thick most Asians can get away with saying they're Korean and they'd believe it. But yeah I feel like the Asian obsessed people are the teens and early 20's.
I'd have to put on make up and white wash myself to look like a k pop artist, so no thanks LOL. I'm leaving Cartagena today. I'll see how I do with Medellin.
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[QUOTE=Py141;2721763]Ahh I see. I went to the clock tower, and some girls came up to me. I was just standing there and observing. They asked me for 250 k / HR, and I said "no" and they were like "200 k / HR" and I said "no" and then they walked away. Also some cops came by to check their bags (for drugs / weapons? But they weren't particular attractive. 5 or 6 I guess, so I wouldn't have slept with them even if it was free. I feel like if I'm going to pay for sex, they better be a 10? Idk, I'm not at the age (late 20's) where I feel like I need to pay (or pay a lot in this case) for sex.
I've also found Colombian women to be so flakey, more so than women in general. Yeah I'm making a blanket statement from anecdotal experience, but I met a bunch of women from this app called Meeff, and like they all flaked, except for a few.
I downloaded Tinder a couple days ago. They always ask me to message them on whatsapp after 2 messages, and I've erred on the side of caution and not messaged them because idk if they're even real. One time I gave a person on tinder my number and I started getting spam texts from all many different numbers.[/QUOTE]You have to talk to them on WhatsApp, talking business on Tinder can get her account banded and your account too if they report it. I always take things off Tinder and on to WhatsApp. Works every time.
If your in 20's and don't want to pay then head to Getsemeni and check out the salsa clubs there like Taboo and Mr. Babilla, there's also Cafe Havana. Bring your salsa shoes and dancing energy and try to pull something for free. Also check out that fancy mall La Serrezula lots of normal girls there as well.
If your turning down 250 K and 200 K at night then those must be the leftovers no one's taking. Usually the good ones starts at 300 K if your lucky and that's if they don't start off talking in dollars instead of pesos jajaja.
If you like them Colombian light, under 25, slim with big natural the cups PM me. I have one that don't mind meeting new people.
Also have another that's Venezuelan, very petite, be cups all natural.
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Balcony sex leads to ban from country
If you are going to be doing this kind of stuff, have some common sense and don't do it on the second floor overlooking the street where people can clearly see and record from the street.
[URL]https://twitter.com/PoliticaHeroica/status/1548531019736879104?s=20&t=03nayRuyYc_ne46svcKQJQ[/URL]
The end result, about a $100 fine for each person, revoked Visa for the gringo, and he is no longer permitted entry to the country.
[URL]https://colombia.detailzero.com/news/38904/They-cancel-the-visa-of-an-American-recorded-while-having-sex-on-a-balcony-in-Cartagena.html[/URL]
These NYC weekend millionaires should keep that Sosua behavior in Sosua jajaja.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2722188]You have to talk to them on WhatsApp, talking business on Tinder can get her account banded and your account too if they report it. I always take things off Tinder and on to WhatsApp. Works every time.
If your in 20's and don't want to pay then head to Getsemeni and check out the salsa clubs there like Taboo and Mr. Babilla, there's also Cafe Havana. Bring your salsa shoes and dancing energy and try to pull something for free. Also check out that fancy mall La Serrezula lots of normal girls there as well.
If your turning down 250 K and 200 K at night then those must be the leftovers no one's taking. Usually the good ones starts at 300 K if your lucky and that's if they don't start off talking in dollars instead of pesos jajaja.
If you like them Colombian light, under 25, slim with big natural the cups PM me. I have one that don't mind meeting new people.
Also have another that's Venezuelan, very petite, be cups all natural.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Unfortunately, I already left CTG a couple days ago. I'm in Medellin now.
Do you know anyone in Medellin? My airport uber driver wants to hook me up with women. 2 minutes into the car ride he starts showing me nudes of the girls (I didn't even show interest up until that point) that he knows and I was like "I like Medellin already" lmao.
I've unfortunately lost a lot of my sex drive (mine has never been high) since coming to Colombia (idk what happened), and probably need to restock on Viagra.
Also, yeah, that girl didn't have a great face. I wouldn't have slept with her regardless of the cost. Honestly, I didn't really see any attractive SWs around the clocktower that night (maybe all the good ones were already taken, as you said).
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[QUOTE=Py141;2722516]Thanks! Unfortunately, I already left CTG a couple days ago. I'm in Medellin now.
Do you know anyone in Medellin? My airport uber driver wants to hook me up with women. 2 minutes into the car ride he starts showing me nudes of the girls (I didn't even show interest up until that point) that he knows and I was like "I like Medellin already" lmao.
I've unfortunately lost a lot of my sex drive (mine has never been high) since coming to Colombia (idk what happened), and probably need to restock on Viagra.
Also, yeah, that girl didn't have a great face. I wouldn't have slept with her regardless of the cost. Honestly, I didn't really see any attractive SWs around the clocktower that night (maybe all the good ones were already taken, as you said).[/QUOTE]I have no contacts in Medellin, never been there as I would be that gringo to be drugged and robbed with the way I do things with the chicas jajaja.
My CTG chicas keep telling me to go because its "muy economico" but I always tell them when the police start doing something about the high level of motorcycle robberies and the drugging then ill go.
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Facebook contacts?
Hey all,
Was wondering if anyone had any Facebook contacts they wouldn't mind booking me up with. I'the be happy to reciprocate with the names of some girls in Medellin. Feel free to DM me, thanks so much.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2722686]I have no contacts in Medellin, never been there as I would be that gringo to be drugged and robbed with the way I do things with the chicas jajaja.
My CTG chicas keep telling me to go because its "muy economico" but I always tell them when the police start doing something about the high level of motorcycle robberies and the drugging then ill go.[/QUOTE]That's what I am worried about in Cartagena if I go off the beaten path, I would live to try out the various Casas and other clubs like Pley and Marino but I can see my ass getting robbed in a heartbeat.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2722245]If you are going to be doing this kind of stuff, have some common sense and don't do it on the second floor overlooking the street where people can clearly see and record from the street.
The end result, about a $100 fine for each person, [/QUOTE]The article my friends sent me says that the reason they did it is because they wanted people to see. It also says the guys paid $3000 under the table to the police because they did not want problems. A normal fine for that type of infraction is 416,000 pesos or $93. Just goes to show how much mfs love overpaying!
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[QUOTE=DragonLink;2722886]Hey all,
Was wondering if anyone had any Facebook contacts they wouldn't mind booking me up with. I'the be happy to reciprocate with the names of some girls in Medellin. Feel free to DM me, thanks so much.[/QUOTE]Cartagena isn't a Facebook scene. It's a club + Tinder town.
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[QUOTE=Py141;2721763]I feel like if I'm going to pay for sex, they better be a 10? Idk, I'm not at the age (late 20's) where I feel like I need to pay (or pay a lot in this case) for sex.[/QUOTE]I am 50 and I am almost the same way. I just do it for fun, so there is nothing in me that says you have to have this particular person even if she wants $100. I don't place an importance on paid pussy like that. I don't care if the chick is a 10 or whatever, but I do care about the price. I prefer to spend money on myself, not on chicks.
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Yep!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2723079]The article my friends sent me says that the reason they did it is because they wanted people to see. It also says the guys paid $3000 under the table to the police because they did not want problems. A normal fine for that type of infraction is 416,000 pesos or $93. Just goes to show how much mfs love overpaying![/QUOTE]I saw an article too that said the same.
[QUOTE] "They took advantage of the situation, my friend had to collect the money with the rest of his colleagues. They took approximately 3 thousand dollars. The next day, other police officers arrived and since my friend had already gone to the airport, they went there to question him, but finally he was able to travel,” added Barros [/QUOTE][URL]https://colombia.detailzero.com/news/40240/Woman-who-had-sex-on-a-balcony-in-Cartagena-broke-the-silence-and-spoke-about-the-event.html [/URL]
Looks like it was his last night in the country, and he wanted to go out with a bang jajaja!
But selfish shit like this is why I don't travel in large groups anymore because the actions of 1 idiot can cost everyone the AirBB due to some of the Hosts put in the house rules if the police show up for any reason, they reserve the right to immediately cancel the reservation and the occupants must leave the property immediately. Also to add, he had to collect money from his friends to pay the $3000 bribe to which now his boys have less dollars on hand to enjoy their vacation smh.
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[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2717518]Never pay in dollars. The USD is rising relative to almost all currencies due to rising rates. The Colombian peso is as weak vs the dollar as it has been historically. Pay in pesos and enjoy.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the good advice. I just checked the USD to Peso exchange rate. Today, $100 USD = 428,967 Pesos! (It was reportedly as high as $100 USD = 460,000 Pesos 2 weeks ago.).
Hope this rate stays good, or gets better by the time I arrive in Cartagena on August 28.
I have not yet booked my hotel. I am now looking into the best way to use the strong dollar when paying for the hotel. (I imagine the larger chain hotels are still charging their same fees in USA Dollars.).
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[QUOTE=OakTownPaul;2725622]Thanks for the good advice. I just checked the USD to Peso exchange rate. Today, $100 USD = 428,967 Pesos! (It was reportedly as high as $100 USD = 460,000 Pesos 2 weeks ago.).
Hope this rate stays good, or gets better by the time I arrive in Cartagena on August 28.
I have not yet booked my hotel. I am now looking into the best way to use the strong dollar when paying for the hotel. (I imagine the larger chain hotels are still charging their same fees in USA Dollars.).[/QUOTE]Unless you have a chica coming with you, I wouldn't bother with the major hotel chains. They aren't that good anyway, and they are strict on guests. You can get an AirBnB and bribe the doorman to let you bring in girls. Wouldn't be a way to use the exchange rate to your advantage in the AirBnB case, but you'll still be coming out way ahead paying for everything in pesos.
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Clock Tower chica asking prices
Its been 3 years since I was last at the clock tower. I am just wondering what is the going chika asking rate t When I was there last they were asking around 200,000 Cop. Some chickas were neg others were firm. So hows the current asking prices, any one know.
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Short time room question?
[QUOTE=Ukman57;2725824]Its been 3 years since I was last at the clock tower. I am just wondering what is the going chika asking rate t When I was there last they were asking around 200,000 Cop. Some chickas were neg others were firm. So hows the current asking prices, any one know.[/QUOTE]Inside the clubs, the better looking chicas are starting at 150-100 $ USD per hour, most start at 100 $ and expect you to negotiate. Outside, a little cheaper, 250-350 k. Many girls you see in the clubs will also be walking the streets from club to club and posting up at the clock tower. I am sure the mid to lower range chicas will ask less. Many more chicas than mongers here. The hecklers are quite annoying. They ruin this destination as a top mongering spot. I have also noticed that the chicas performance can be very unpredictable. Sometimes they are gorgeous / young and falling in love and won't leave, other times they are average in the looks department and they won't even GFE and are out before you can nut. Makes things interesting I guess.
Question. I have a friend visiting. Our airbnb doesn't allow guests and I don't want hookers / drama back there anyway. Can you get a short time hotel suite, where there is two rooms connected? So we could party / drink beers together and then fuck them in separate rooms? All the short time rooms I have ever been in were just set up for a couple / single room.
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I Might
[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2723199]Cartagena isn't a Facebook scene. It's a club + Tinder town.[/QUOTE]
I'm in Colombia for 10 days every month and if you send me a P M I knew some in Medellin all know each other about 21-23.2 very light skin looking like a European 8 and 9's. I have built up a good phone book working in Bogota, Medellin with a base in Cartagena.
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General observations
I have been coming to Cartagena off and on for about 15 years.
The first several years until about 2013 were great for mongering. A lot of hot Colombianas from other coastal cities and towns, MDE girls who tended to be more beautiful and voluptuous, and nary a Vennie to be seen. Most of the action was inside the old city near the clock tower though there were some scattered clubs on the side streets that might yield some action. I generally took them back to my short term apartment rental or hotel without any difficulty. It was usually pretty good service too with the occasional dud but at the price I was paying it hardly mattered.
But over the last few years, there has been a sea change and not for the good. The Vennies seemed to have taken over the scene and the quality of the Colombiana has dropped significantly. Prices have increased and quality has come down and it seems the quality of the mongerer has also decreased. This seems to have had a negative effect on the various housing options in the city with many of the landlords or AIR hosts specifically not allowing visitors under any circumstances. In fact, I found only a few AIR places that did not specifically disallow visitors in my last review this morning. I suppose some jerkoff guy banging a chica on a second story veranda for all the world to see does not help ease this situation, as what occurred a few weeks ago.
I did not like that the action appears to have shifted from the clock tower to a couple of street inside El Centro. On my last visit, some of these girls appeared to pop up out of bushes or doorways or hustlers tried to entice you to go to a certain club (for a kickback). For the first time, Cartagena to me did not seem as safe as in the past. I would prefer having all the action in the Main Clock Tower Plaza where they can be observed a bit easily.
Nevertheless, I really see the quality and fun factor to have dropped significantly. First, finding a decent place to do the deed seems more and more problematic but the quality of the experience seems much less than in the past. I would not even bother with a Vennie but a decent looking Colombiana seem pretty pretty thin on the ground too, I will still go because I enjoy the overall vibe and, in fact, will be visiting late October but mongering is hardly worth the hassle. Maybe I am getting older or living in the past but it's no wonder as the past sure was better.
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Clock Tower scene
[QUOTE=Tomasb;2726316]I have been coming to Cartagena off and on for about 15 years....
I did not like that the action appears to have shifted from the clock tower to a couple of street inside El Centro. On my last visit, some of these girls appeared to pop up out of bushes or doorways or hustlers tried to entice you to go to a certain club (for a kickback). For the first time, Cartagena to me did not seem as safe as in the past. I would prefer having all the action in the Main Clock Tower Plaza where they can be observed a bit easily.
Nevertheless, I really see the quality and fun factor to have dropped significantly. [/QUOTE]Has the police presence dropped? Or are the police still hanging around the Clock Tower area to prevent sex tourism?
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Nine Nights in Cartagena. Arriving Soon
[QUOTE=Tomasb;2726316]I have been coming to Cartagena off and on for about 15 years.
The first several years until about 2013 were great for mongering. A lot of hot Colombians from other coastal cities and towns, MDE girls who tended to be more beautiful and voluptuous, and nary a Vennie to be seen. Most of the action was inside the old city near the clock tower though there were some scattered clubs on the side streets that might yield some action. I generally took them back to my short term apartment rental or hotel without any difficulty. It was usually pretty good service too with the occasional dud but at the price I was paying it hardly mattered.
But over the last few years, there has been a sea change and not for the good. The Vennies seemed to have taken over the scene and the quality of the Colombians has dropped significantly. Prices have increased and quality has come down and it seems the quality of the mongerer has also decreased. This seems to have had a negative effect on the various housing options in the city with many of the landlords or AIR hosts specifically not allowing visitors under any circumstances. In fact, I found only a few AIR places that did not specifically disallow visitors in my last review this morning. I suppose some jerkoff guy banging a chica on a second story veranda for all the world to see does not help ease this situation, as what occurred a few weeks ago.
I did not like that the action appears to have shifted from the clock tower to a couple of street inside El Centro. On my last visit, some of these girls appeared to pop up out of bushes or doorways or hustlers tried to entice you to go to a certain club (for a kickback). For the first time, Cartagena to me did not seem as safe as in the past. I would prefer having all the action in the Main Clock Tower Plaza where they can be observed a bit easily.
Nevertheless, I really see the quality and fun factor to have dropped significantly. First, finding a decent place to do the deed seems more and more problematic but the quality of the experience seems much less than in the past. I would not even bother with a Vennie but a decent looking Colombiana seem pretty pretty thin on the ground too, I will still go because I enjoy the overall vibe and, in fact, will be visiting late October but mongering is hardly worth the hassle. Maybe I am getting older or living in the past but it's no wonder as the past sure was better.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your words of wisdom. But like all good advice, I will ignore the most important part (about Cartagena's diminishment) and go anyway. It's already booked, and it will be my first time, so I will not know any better. LOL (I arrive August 28, and will stay 9 days.).
However, I am taking note of your comments about El Centro. Unless I am with an amigo, I will probably not venture downtown until after I get my feet wet. I am not a rookie, as I consider myself to be a "moderately" experienced traveler in this space, but I know when to be cautious. (I have been to Thailand (Pattaya, Bangkok, Phuket and Chang Mai), the DR (Sosua / PP, Santiago and Santa Domingo) Spain (Barcelona and Ibiza), Mexico (Tijuana and PDC) Kenya (Nairobi and Mombassa), Costa Rica (SJ and Jaco) and Medellin, Colombia. However, this being my first time in Cartagena, and I never forget that I have "gringo" pasted on my forehead, I have no spanish skills, and I am no longer the hunter (like back home) - I am the hunted.
When I go to new place, like I am now, I will frequently stay at multiple places just to get a feel for the various options. I will also overbook, so that I can make some changes once I see the City. There are times when I will end up paying for two different hotel rooms for the same night. (This is usually a cheap hotel, where I know I can bring someone home, and then another "nicer" hotel.) What I like about a good hotel is that it helps conjure a GFE. (Which is what I like.) It seems kind of silly to even try for the GFE when you have reserved 30,60 or even 120 minutes for a small room within 500 yards from where you first met the young lady. (Or maybe I have just never had that kind of GF. LOL) In any event, my biggest disappointment is not being able to get a top hotel and "know" that I can bring a guest home. Fortunately, I was able to score 4 nights (early in my trip) at a verified "guest friendly" ISG recommended apartment in a good location. (Very popular, and these were the only days available.) Afterwords, I have a reserved (I) a cheap love hotel where I know I can take someone and (ii) a pretty nice 4 - 4. 5 star hotel in Bocagrande. Plan: If I meet someone (in the first 4 days) who is worthy of a repeat experience, I might have them join me when I check into a new hotel mid-stay. Otherwise, I might cancel the reservation if it does look good.
As I have been derelict in contributing content, I will provide a report (mainly focusing on the accommodations) upon my return. Nobody wants to hear me talk about my meeting the girl of my dreams, falling in love and. Wait! I do not even want to hear about that!
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[QUOTE=KcTalent;2726091]I'm in Colombia for 10 days every month and if you send me a P M I knew some in Medellin all know each other about 21-23.2 very light skin looking like a European 8 and 9's. I have built up a good phone book working in Bogota, Medellin with a base in Cartagena.[/QUOTE]Hello,
I'll be in Cartagena from August 10th to August 16th. I would really appreciate, if you can share some good contacts.
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[QUOTE=OakTownPaul;2726349] I will ignore the most important part (about Cartagena's diminishment) and go anyway. I
However, I am taking note of your comments about El Centro. Unless I am with an amigo, I will probably not venture downtown until after I get my feet wet. [/QUOTE]I want to say that maybe because you have been to Medellin that the term El Centro is throwing you off. Unlike in Medellin where El Centro is the "downtown" or business district. In Cartagena "Centro" is the heart of the historic center of the tourist area. The only person likely to get killed there are the touts (by you!) when they just won't leave you alone. When he says it does not seem as safe as it did in the past he doesn't mean that people are getting stabbed like El Centro in Medellin, he just means the overall ambiance is just more overall sketchy than it used to be.
I seriously mourn for the Cartagena of ten and fifteen years ago but your right you will never know so it shouldn't matter to you. Whats there today is all that matters and it really is still better than most places in the western hemisphere. With a few exceptions in Colombia and Braziul it probably ranks the top 3- 4 places that has the greatest concentration of hot chicas for sale in a small area.
When I started going to Cartagena it was still a place where mostly Colombians would go for a vacation or a weekend, and I think the touts knew better than to harrass Colombians the same way they harrass gringos. I used be able to walk the length of old town and not get accosted, plenty of art sellers and mimes and all that but they were respectful. So now the touts are so fucking aggressive if someone bothered me that much in the states they might get a bloody nose. They have gotten rediculous and even the fact that they are even allowed to harrass you that much makes you feel unsafe in a way. I may be wrong but I think that is what he means. I have not heard of anyone getting assaulted in the old city.
You do not need an amigo so much as you need earplugs. Just put some headphones on and everytime someone who is not a gorgeous babe seems to want to approach you just point to the headphones and shake your head.
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[QUOTE=OakTownPaul;2726349]I appreciate your words of wisdom. But like all good advice, I will ignore the most important part (about Cartagena's diminishment) and go anyway. It's already booked, and it will be my first time, so I will not know any better. LOL (I arrive August 28, and will stay 9 days.).
However, I am taking note of your comments about El Centro. Unless I am with an amigo, I will probably not venture downtown until after I get my feet wet. I am not a rookie, as I consider myself to be a "moderately" experienced traveler in this space, but I know when to be cautious. (I have been to Thailand (Pattaya, Bangkok, Phuket and Chang Mai), the DR (Sosua / PP, Santiago and Santa Domingo) Spain (Barcelona and Ibiza), Mexico (Tijuana and PDC) Kenya (Nairobi and Mombassa), Costa Rica (SJ and Jaco) and Medellin, Colombia. However, this being my first time in Cartagena, and I never forget that I have "gringo" pasted on my forehead, I have no spanish skills, and I am no longer the hunter (like back home) - I am the hunted.
When I go to new place, like I am now, I will frequently stay at multiple places just to get a feel for the various options. I will also overbook, so that I can make some changes once I see the City. There are times when I will end up paying for two different hotel rooms for the same night. (This is usually a cheap hotel, where I know I can bring someone home, and then another "nicer" hotel.) What I like about a good hotel is that it helps conjure a GFE. (Which is what I like.).[/QUOTE]Oaktown, I am not sure what you want. Bocagrande is the place most mongers go. Thing is the best beaches are not there but on the islands and the boats that go to them are actually closer to the second nice part of the city, Manga. That is where my apartment is. It is safe, quiet, and there are no touts. There are a few hotels but there are some nice condos and Airbnb's there. My favorite part of the hotels was just watching the pelicans do their dive bombing runs.
I have not stayed at the Hilton which I heard was the best but at the Marriott, Intercontinental, and the Dann Cartagena. Of those, I liked the intercontinental the best, but the Marriott is guest friendly.
My favorite restaurant in Cartagena was Di Silvio but I tried a new Italian place and liked it better. The name was Semolina, and it is in the Bocagrande Mall, and they have crazy quick service compared to the other restaurants I have gone to. Another real cool place to hang out and have food and drinks is Las Ramblas Mall. It is outside the city, and as Cartagena can be a little congested, this place is nice because it has plenty of space. Food, music, and drinks were also quite good out there. Persepolis in Bocagrande has good Persian food.
San Felipe castle has amazing views and check it out at sunset. You will be blown away at the beauty on a nice night.
Cartagena is a cool place but I would rank it fifth for mongering behind Bogota, Medellin, Cali, and Barranquilla. The women just wanted too much there IMO. I think the way you do Cartagena is to bring in a woman you like from another city, but that is just me.
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Addendum
Yes, I did not mean that I feared that I could be assaulted while in El Centro compared to past visits. I only meant that the people hanging out late at night don't have your best interests in mind. It was just a lot more mellow in years past. It's also a lot more difficult to find places to bring girls as most of the top hotels and even AIR accommodations are a lot more strict about allowing non registered guests to enter your room. However, there are some that don't restrict guests but you have to dig and sometimes I suspect you find out their restrictions upon your arrival as they are not posted in their reservation information. I have also been told that the prison penalties for assaulting tourists is significantly more than if they assaulted or robbed a local Colombian citizen.
I don't think that I could go to the extreme of finding two hotels to stay, one for you only, and the other for your lady guest as there are not that many budget hotels in El Centro anymore. I used to stay at a place just steps from the Clocktower and they were charging about $20 per night only a few years ago. Now, it's $60 and they are listed on [URL]Booking.com[/URL]. Albeit they did renovate the hotel but I was fine with the prior set up because the nightly or short time price was cheap. They install a flat screen tv and a new shower and all of a sudden the price triples. I recall some of the Clocktower girls used this hotel for short term assignations though not sure with their new pricing structure if that still works price wise. I can see a scenario where a hotel such as the one I mentioned has a vacant room and the desk clerk rents it to a friend of theirs for an hour or so and gets a cut.
Anyway, it is what it is. I still like to go but yearn for the older days when life there was a bit more simple.
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MoJo is right. The touts are unbearable in Centro. I usually stay in Manga, but my favorite restaurants are there. At this point, I don't even get dropped off at the Clock Tower anymore. I have the taxi drop me directly at the restaurant and wait til one comes passes by later to leave. Can't even leisurely walk around during the afternoon / evening without getting accosted. A damn shame.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2726729]I want to say that maybe because you have been to Medellin that the term El Centro is throwing you off. Unlike in Medellin where El Centro is the "downtown" or business district. In Cartagena "Centro" is the heart of the historic center of the tourist area. The only person likely to get killed there are the touts (by you!) when they just won't leave you alone. When he says it does not seem as safe as it did in the past he doesn't mean that people are getting stabbed like El Centro in Medellin, he just means the overall ambiance is just more overall sketchy than it used to be.
I seriously mourn for the Cartagena of ten and fifteen years ago but your right you will never know so it shouldn't matter to you. Whats there today is all that matters and it really is still better than most places in the western hemisphere. With a few exceptions in Colombia and Braziul it probably ranks the top 3- 4 places that has the greatest concentration of hot chicas for sale in a small area.
When I started going to Cartagena it was still a place where mostly Colombians would go for a vacation or a weekend, and I think the touts knew better than to harrass Colombians the same way they harrass gringos. I used be able to walk the length of old town and not get accosted, plenty of art sellers and mimes and all that but they were respectful. So now the touts are so fucking aggressive if someone bothered me that much in the states they might get a bloody nose. They have gotten rediculous and even the fact that they are even allowed to harrass you that much makes you feel unsafe in a way. I may be wrong but I think that is what he means. I have not heard of anyone getting assaulted in the old city.
You do not need an amigo so much as you need earplugs. Just put some headphones on and everytime someone who is not a gorgeous babe seems to want to approach you just point to the headphones and shake your head.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for the clarification, and the description of the positives. (You are right about my mistaken use of El Centro.) If necessary, I will have my headphones with me. Fortunately, though my spanish is extremly limited, I have mastered the art of saying "No, gracias" . And then ghosting any further attempt to talk.
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2726790]Oaktown, I am not sure what you want. Bocagrande is the place most mongers go. Thing is the best beaches are not there but on the islands and the boats that go to them are actually closer to the second nice part of the city, Manga. That is where my apartment is. It is safe, quiet, and there are no touts. There are a few hotels but there are some nice condos and Airbnb's there. My favorite part of the hotels was just watching the pelicans do their dive bombing runs.
I have not stayed at the Hilton which I heard was the best but at the Marriott, Intercontinental, and the Dann Cartagena. Of those, I liked the intercontinental the best, but the Marriott is guest friendly.
My favorite restaurant in Cartagena was Di Silvio but I tried a new Italian place and liked it better. The name was Semolina, and it is in the Bocagrande Mall, and they have crazy quick service compared to the other restaurants I have gone to. Another real cool place to hang out and have food and drinks is Las Ramblas Mall. It is outside the city, and as Cartagena can be a little congested, this place is nice because it has plenty of space. Food, music, and drinks were also quite good out there. Persepolis in Bocagrande has good Persian food.
San Felipe castle has amazing views and check it out at sunset. You will be blown away at the beauty on a nice night.
Cartagena is a cool place but I would rank it fifth for mongering behind Bogota, Medellin, Cali, and Barranquilla. The women just wanted too much there IMO. I think the way you do Cartagena is to bring in a woman you like from another city, but that is just me.[/QUOTE]Finding the right girl, and then taking her on a vacation trip somewhere else works very well for me. Many good times. As I am going to Bogota in November, I might look into a side trip to Cartagena since I will, by then, better know the lay of the land.
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Headed to Cartagena for the first time Aug 27th to Sept 3rd. Anybody have any good contacts for chicas or tour guides? Also how much is bottle service at LDV I hear its expensive?
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[QUOTE=DTrain228;2728240]Headed to Cartagena for the first time Aug 27th to Sept 3rd. Anybody have any good contacts for chicas [/QUOTE]You really do not need any contacts for chicas before heading down to Cartagena. It is one of the places that ranks the world for the greatest concentration of pussy for sale. Probably in the top five in the western hemisphere. If you were to get contacts with some chicas before going down there you might even regret it: because after 10 pm or eleven 11 pm. When you walk the clock tower, Dolce Vita and Space are you will see enough chicas. My running opinion right now of Delirium gathered from reports is not good but more recent visiting members may have a differing opinion. There are so many woman that in my opinion if you start contacting chicas even before you arrive you are just going to be limiting your options. And in Cartagena there are too many options to want to be limiting them.
It also depends on your style. For example you asked about "bottle service" - two reasons why I would not do that: first is the old colombain saying "no dar papaya" which literally translates to "don't give papaya" but means do not make yourself a target for thieves and one way that is done is making them envious by flaunting your money. I Know of at least one experienced monger who have gone to Dolce and partied like a rock star and had two super-model chicas promise to to a porn-star style Menage a trois then while one chica went downtown on the boy the other was taking him to the cleaners by taking all his stuff and leaving, soon then the one going down suddenly had to leave while the boy was stark naked and not yet been able to make sense of the situation. My point isn't that everyone who gets bottle service gets robbed so much as it is that these people are the opposite of impressed when we do get bottle service.
Second reason is related to my style of mongering. The other reason I would not get bottle service, and for me this reason is even more practicle. I am searching for that near perfect chica everytime I go out, and I usually find her, so to that end my style is not to plant myself in one spot when I am in Dolce Vita. I cant make it happen sitting in one spot, I have to mover around to make it happen. If I sit in one spot I am just going to experience what happens to me. Because I have shrunk my world down to the perimeter if the table and also my choices. It is a choice between waiting to see what happens to me or staying up and mobile and making what happens to me a choice I make. My experience is that if I want to find that chica the checks off everything on my list like: Her looks, services I want, price point I willing to pay, - then I have to shop around and since Dolce Vita can be a crowded spot it can take time and effort just to get over to where the cutie is standing so I can negotiotiate and then often because that particular cutie does not check all the boxes then I have to go roving for the next target to negotiate with. If I am sitting at a table doing the bottle service thing then I am more likely to attract the wrong people to my table so I prefer to roam around and search for diamond I am looking for.
My style is dependent on the reason I am there and that is to have the highest quality interaction with the chicas that I can but someone else may enjoy the ideal of having bottle service and then just a mediocre experience with a chica. The bottle service experierence to someone else may be as important to them a finding a quality chica is to me. So to each there own
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Cartagena Report: Many Chicas, still not worth it.
Cartagena has to be done right.
Having to get a short time hotel every time you want to fuck is a pain in the ass and a hassle. Try to get a hotel that allows guests. This will also come at an expense, be prepared to pay higher rates for your room.
The hecklers and beggars are at another level here. I won't return for several years as I have been to so many other places where you can find quality women without having to deal with the guys in Centro trying to get every last cent out of you. I came very close to having problems on a few occaisions because my pride got the better of me and I am a seasoned vet of the game. The last thing I want is an altercation in Colombia over nonsense, but these guys really push the limits. If you have a crew of several dudes you are with who can handle themselves, you will probably be left alone much more.
People hate on Cartagena because of the so-called "Ballers" in the clubs, but they are not the problem. Not even close. It's just that the clubs get packed on the weekends and it's tough just to move around. That is the club scene in general. These guys are not doing anything to ruin the game in my view. Clubs are kinda slow Mon-Wed and the girls are all still there. Hit the clubs up mid week if that is your thing. The weekends, its too crowded to enjoy yourself.
Heat: the fucking heat and humidity is high, be prepared.
Cab Drivers: late night, they will start charging crazy rates and you will have to argue to get a normal price, during the day- 10 k gets you most places.
Price: 400 k per hour, or 600 k multi hour. If a girl wants more, then she had a lot of customers that week and she can gamble the up sell. I did have one girl quote me 300 USD with an entire club full of girls who were going to start at 400 k, obviously I didn't accept her offer.
Girls: a lot of girls who you can tell are full time pros, but there are some very beautiful girls available as well. You need to find what works for you and if you take your time, you will find it in Cartagena. I can't see how anyone could put Cartagena in their top 5 mongering spots. Many spots all over Brazil, Colombia, Mexico, Costa Rica are much better.
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I have decided that all my post covid trips are to be on a beach. I have already done Tobago and Boca Chica. I have Jaco, Cancun and Cartagena in my sights. I have never been to Cartagena and have read about the persistence of the hustlers / touts. I have dealt with such people in my trips and have more or less succeeded in ignoring them. However, from my readings it seems that the hustlers / touts in Cartagena are probably the worst in the world. I sympathize with them as I understand that they are poor and just trying to earn a living. However, if they are not peddling something I want then I'm not interested and that has been my attitude everywhere I go. I can successfully navigate my way around them no matter how persistent they are; however, there is one thing I just cannot tolerate and would make me lose it and that is if I am touched by the tout while I am ignoring him. It has happened to me (though very rarely) and when it does I am challenged to the limit to control myself. I would not like to experience an occasion when the blood goes to my head and I react violently. Is this a practice by hustlers in Cartagena?
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2729670]I have decided that all my post covid trips are to be on a beach. I have already done Tobago and Boca Chica. I have Jaco, Cancun and Cartagena in my sights. I have never been to Cartagena and have read about the persistence of the hustlers / touts. I have dealt with such people in my trips and have more or less succeeded in ignoring them. However, from my readings it seems that the hustlers / touts in Cartagena are probably the worst in the world. I sympathize with them as I understand that they are poor and just trying to earn a living. However, if they are not peddling something I want then I'm not interested and that has been my attitude everywhere I go. I can successfully navigate my way around them no matter how persistent they are; however, there is one thing I just cannot tolerate and would make me lose it and that is if I am touched by the tout while I am ignoring him. It has happened to me (though very rarely) and when it does I am challenged to the limit to control myself. I would not like to experience an occasion when the blood goes to my head and I react violently. Is this a practice by hustlers in Cartagena?[/QUOTE]How's tabogo for mongering? Its been on my list for a while now, Cartagena is fun, most likely on beach you will not be touched, but at night walking around clubs and such they are very aggressive and some can be very aggressive and touchy-feely and like you I hate it and it triggers me also to the point where like you can ruin your night! But you probably should not let it stop you from seeing a beautiful city, I used to love going their but been their done that, any information on tabogo will be very much appreciated! Stay safe travel fun bud!
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2729670]I have decided that all my post covid trips are to be on a beach. I have already done Tobago and Boca Chica. I have Jaco, Cancun and Cartagena in my sights. I have never been to Cartagena and have read about the persistence of the hustlers / touts. I have dealt with such people in my trips and have more or less succeeded in ignoring them. However, from my readings it seems that the hustlers / touts in Cartagena are probably the worst in the world. I sympathize with them as I understand that they are poor and just trying to earn a living. However, if they are not peddling something I want then I'm not interested and that has been my attitude everywhere I go. I can successfully navigate my way around them no matter how persistent they are; however, there is one thing I just cannot tolerate and would make me lose it and that is if I am touched by the tout while I am ignoring him. It has happened to me (though very rarely) and when it does I am challenged to the limit to control myself. I would not like to experience an occasion when the blood goes to my head and I react violently. Is this a practice by hustlers in Cartagena?[/QUOTE]Nah, you just ignore them and they go away. Its just anytime you walk around them, they follow you around tying their hustle. They even whistle at each other letting the others know a potential customer is walking by, then the next guy comes up to you. The young kids will do their rap songs loudly in front of you and ask for a tip, some will ask for a beer. Guys will follow you into the club trying to be a guide, this is where I lost it and almost got into it. I am not allowing any man to follow me like that. I had a guy try to jump in my cab and be my guide, had to get into an argument with him and kick him out. I had kids jump on my carriage ride and ask for money. Its all just very very annoying stuff I don't deal with to this level anywhere else, even in Sosua it was not this bad. I really don't see myself ever returning to Cartagena. It's a shame because the historic district is really beautiful.
I understand they are people, but I will not allow their problems to become mine, you cannot show them any level of kindness. They will see it as weakness and just try and further hustle money out of you.
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2729713]Nah, you just ignore them and they go away. Its just anytime you walk around them, they follow you around tying their hustle. They even whistle at each other letting the others know a potential customer is walking by, then the next guy comes up to you. The young kids will do their rap songs loudly in front of you and ask for a tip, some will ask for a beer. Guys will follow you into the club trying to be a guide, this is where I lost it and almost got into it. I am not allowing any man to follow me like that. I had a guy try to jump in my cab and be my guide, had to get into an argument with him and kick him out. I had kids jump on my carriage ride and ask for money. Its all just very very annoying stuff I don't deal with to this level anywhere else, even in Sosua it was not this bad. I really don't see myself ever returning to Cartagena. It's a shame because the historic district is really beautiful.
I understand they are people, but I will not allow their problems to become mine, you cannot show them any level of kindness. They will see it as weakness and just try and further hustle money out of you.[/QUOTE]You must look like a target for money and tips. I've had a few touts try to sell things but nothing as extreme as your experiences.
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2729713]Nah, you just ignore them and they go away. Its just anytime you walk around them, they follow you around tying their hustle. They even whistle at each other letting the others know a potential customer is walking by, then the next guy comes up to you. The young kids will do their rap songs loudly in front of you and ask for a tip, some will ask for a beer. Guys will follow you into the club trying to be a guide, this is where I lost it and almost got into it. I am not allowing any man to follow me like that. I had a guy try to jump in my cab and be my guide, had to get into an argument with him and kick him out. I had kids jump on my carriage ride and ask for money. Its all just very very annoying stuff I don't deal with to this level anywhere else, even in Sosua it was not this bad. I really don't see myself ever returning to Cartagena. It's a shame because the historic district is really beautiful.
I understand they are people, but I will not allow their problems to become mine, you cannot show them any level of kindness. They will see it as weakness and just try and further hustle money out of you.[/QUOTE]The situation is a lot worse post covid shutdown. I was there Jan 20 and then Jan 22. Must have been 4-5 times as many touts in 22. The people got hit hard by the tourism shutdown and are more desperate now. If it ever gets back to the way it was it is tolerable.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2729670]Is this a practice by hustlers in Cartagena?[/QUOTE]I can assure you it will, especially at Playa Hollywood.
At the beach the massage ladies and trinket sellers will harass you the most. If you're on foot walking around, you can avoid but if your stationary it will be a nuisance.
From a personal experience with the massage ladies, I'm on the beach sitting down waiting for food. Ladies comes by offers massage I tell them no, they insist on touching me, I tell them no, they proceed to put that sticky gel stuff on my legs, I still tell them no. This goes on for 10 minutes at a time. I've now learned from my chicas instead of saying "no tengo dinero" to say "no tengo plata" or "tengo mucho". Saying "no" or "no gracias" does not work. Another tactic is the runner who takes my order and brings me the food and drinks ill give them an extra 20 K and tell them keep all touts away from me while I'm sitting there.
This is my experience from that beach at a stationary location.
Now if your on foot in Centro you can keep it moving while either ignoring them or telling them no, sooner or later they will walk off. Sunglasses is good as it breaks eye contact. Some of these things you can easily get used to and dial it in as background noise.
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2729713] I had kids jump on my carriage ride and ask for money. .[/QUOTE]JAJAJAJA.
That's when they get you LOL. When you pay for something and are stationary that's their chance to pounce because they know you can't go anywhere. That's getting the cabanas at the beach, carriage rides, a window seat at a restaurant, and especially sitting outside at restaurants its constant "tengo hambre" all throughout your meal. I made so many mistakes on my first trip years ago, I'm still laughing at myself for doing certain things.
Its best when I get a Colombiana from the barrios and she's shuts them down with some slang I make sure to see if they are available every time I arrive.
Were all there to enjoy our vacation, not to be harassed LOL.
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[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2729739]You must look like a target for money and tips. I've had a few touts try to sell things but nothing as extreme as your experiences.[/QUOTE]Well duh LOL, the hecklers watched me take multiple girls out of the club each night for 2 weeks straight. Its sad to say, but the reality is worse than what I wrote and any single dude looking for pussy around there is going to experience it. These guys are clearly desperate. All you can do is just completely ignore them. I did and like I said, they still followed me into the club one night, I still had a dude jump in my cab and I had to argue with him to get him out. I still dealt with the beggars. A 6 ft tall black tranny even grabbed my friends junk one night, everyone watching got a chuckle as he freaked out LOL. The pussy is there, just a lot of shit to deal with and there is over half a dozen places I have been to where you don't deal with that shit. Hot pussy is hot pussy at the end of the day, no need to ever go back to Cartagena. Let all them dudes starve and the clubs dry up for all I care.
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You came in too hot LOL
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2729833]Well duh LOL, the hecklers watched me take multiple girls out of the club each night for 2 weeks straight. Its sad to say, but the reality is worse than what I wrote and any single dude looking for pussy around there is going to experience it. These guys are clearly desperate. All you can do is just completely ignore them. I did and like I said, they still followed me into the club one night, I still had a dude jump in my cab and I had to argue with him to get him out. I still dealt with the beggars. A 6 ft tall black tranny even grabbed my friends junk one night, everyone watching got a chuckle as he freaked out LOL. The pussy is there, just a lot of shit to deal with and there is over half a dozen places I have been to where you don't deal with that shit. Hot pussy is hot pussy at the end of the day, no need to ever go back to Cartagena. Let all them dudes starve and the clubs dry up for all I care.[/QUOTE]If you or your group kept going to Delirium, Dolce or Space for 2 weeks straight and were pulling out multiple girls every night and getting short term hotels well that's advertising to everyone standing outside that you have money to give away, its worse if you happen to be buying bottles inside and they saw you do it. By your own words, you went to the clubs for 2 weeks straight, of course they know you by face after the 3rd night and expect some of that money to come their way. Touts trying to go into the club with you or trying to hop into your cab means you were attracting too much attention and they knew where you will be every night. Ideally, after the first 3 nights yourself or group should have collected enough numbers to have fresh girls for the remainder of the trip and move away from the clubs where the working girls are and move over to the Getsemani clubs where the touts aren't. The girls you were pulling out could have also suggested better places to party at where they aren't touts harassing you as well unless they were just there to do their business and leave to get more business.
Let this trip be a learning experience on what not to do if you decide to return soon, on my first trip to Cartegena, big mistakes were made as I thought it would be the same a Sosua, I must of had "Plata gratis" stamped on my forehead because it was bad and this was pre covid. But now I'm chill, I take the fun back to the apartment with the girls and we have our fun. Out of a month-long trip I may hit Space or Dolce once a week, all other nights I tell the Chica, take me somewhere different. One nice spot was a restaurant down on the lake in El Laguito, there's also another one that popped up on the castle over the bridge, and the mall La Serrezuela cool spot at night and the 7 pm water jet show is a good time waster.
Yea, them trannies be out here and they get their customers too LOL. Its funny, my friend and I was staying at an AirBB right next to Delirium and every night we would just be standing outside the door pulling chicas from the street as the walk by to go to the clubs. This tall black one with some big fake tits looking like Wendy Willams kept walking by and kept trying to talk to us and I would say "no hombres" or "Nosotrous no gustan pene" and they would laugh and walk off, but they kept circling and coming back to get shut down again and again.
Your next trip will be better, second trip always is.
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[QUOTE=RacShack;2729712]How's tabogo for mongering? .....[/QUOTE]Not good, I read about a bar there with Vennies but did not bite. Trinidad is a short ferry ride away; the dailies advertise casas with pros, I have sampled in the past but not on my recent sojourn, it was a purely non-mongering trip.
I'm reading horror stories here about massage ladies placing cream on your legs after you say no and trannies grabbing your junk, I would go bonkers with that shit. I was recently in Boca Chica and massage ladies would approach me on the beach and I would say 'maybe later' and they would go. I'm sure Colombians did not suffer more from covid than did Dominicans.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2729904]If you or your group kept going to Delirium, Dolce or Space for 2 weeks straight and were pulling out multiple girls every night and getting short term hotels well that's advertising to everyone standing outside that you have money to give away, its worse if you happen to be buying bottles inside and they saw you do it. By your own words, you went to the clubs for 2 weeks straight, of course they know you by face after the 3rd night and expect some of that money to come their way. Touts trying to go into the club with you or trying to hop into your cab means you were attracting too much attention and they knew where you will be every night. Ideally, after the first 3 nights yourself or group should have collected enough numbers to have fresh girls for the remainder of the trip and move away from the clubs where the working girls are and move over to the Getsemani clubs where the touts aren't. The girls you were pulling out could have also suggested better places to party at where they aren't touts harassing you as well unless they were just there to do their business and leave to get more business.
Let this trip be a learning experience on what not to do if you decide to return soon, on my first trip to Cartegena, big mistakes were made as I thought it would be the same a Sosua, I must of had "Plata gratis" stamped on my forehead because it was bad and this was pre covid. But now I'm chill, I take the fun back to the apartment with the girls and we have our fun. Out of a month-long trip I may hit Space or Dolce once a week, all other nights I tell the Chica, take me somewhere different. One nice spot was a restaurant down on the lake in El Laguito, there's also another one that popped up on the castle over the bridge, and the mall La Serrezuela cool spot at night and the 7 pm water jet show is a good time waster.
Yea, them trannies be out here and they get their customers too LOL. Its funny, my friend and I was staying at an AirBB right next to Delirium and every night we would just be standing outside the door pulling chicas from the street as the walk by to go to the clubs. This tall black one with some big fake tits looking like Wendy Willams kept walking by and kept trying to talk to us and I would say "no hombres" or "Nosotrous no gustan pene" and they would laugh and walk off, but they kept circling and coming back to get shut down again and again.
Your next trip will be better, second trip always is.[/QUOTE]Hmmm, a good strategy you propose. In hindsight, that was the correct move. Last minute trips where you can't get a chica friendly airbnb I can't recommend for Cartagena.
Chica friendly airbnb is a must.
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Is Oz Hotel Chica friendly?
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2730070]Hmmm, a good strategy you propose. In hindsight, that was the correct move. Last minute trips where you can't get a chica friendly airbnb I can't recommend for Cartagena.
Chica friendly airbnb is a must.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DTrain228;2730238]Is Oz Hotel Chica friendly?[/QUOTE]It's friendly but good luck getting a reservation. Also you will be paying American prices to stay there and a believe it's a fee for each visitor you bring in.
Most AirBB inside Palmetto Beach is a safe bet not to be confused with Plametto Sunset (do not stay here if you want to enjoy chicas).
Get yourself or group an AirBB that's guest friendly. El Laguito and Getsemeni are the two locations that have many but they are booked way in advance. Read the house rules carefully, ask about visitors if they aren't in in there. Noise ordnance, capacity, etc.
If you choose Centro for the AirBB it will be expensive for what you get and you might not get hot water.
It's allot of homework but once it's done you will have a solid list of locations you can stay.
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[QUOTE=DTrain228;2730238]Is Oz Hotel Chica friendly?[/QUOTE]Yes the OZ Hotel Chica friendly no charge and it's 50 $ per night when I stayed there earlier this year. OZ Luxury hotel looks better but I'm not sure about the guest policy.
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Any plae like Zero Stress?
I might be in Barranquilla in September and am thinking about checking out Santa Marta and maybe Cartagena while there. I usually spend time in Medellin a few weeks every year and just want to see something a little different.
In Barranquilla I like Massage Zero Stress and have had great luck at similar places / casas.
Are the good places like that in Cartagena or is it more strip clubs / Gustos type clubs?
How about Santa Marta?
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[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2732012]I might be in Barranquilla in September and am thinking about checking out Santa Marta and maybe Cartagena while there. I usually spend time in Medellin a few weeks every year and just want to see something a little different.
In Barranquilla I like Massage Zero Stress and have had great luck at similar places / casas.
Are the good places like that in Cartagena or is it more strip clubs / Gustos type clubs?
How about Santa Marta?[/QUOTE]I live in Santa Marta as far as I can tell there are no strip clubs its even been hard for me too find a reasonable massage without going to a high end spa.
The only real place to find chicas is parque Los novias and that is not great.
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[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2732012]I might be in Barranquilla in September and am thinking about checking out Santa Marta and maybe Cartagena while there. I usually spend time in Medellin a few weeks every year and just want to see something a little different.
In Barranquilla I like Massage Zero Stress and have had great luck at similar places / casas.
Are the good places like that in Cartagena or is it more strip clubs / Gustos type clubs?
How about Santa Marta?[/QUOTE]Cartagena Map - [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?hl=en&ll=10.40773355831931%2C-75.53469315345922&z=14&mid=1EljA0WD88l80-NTzK9Bh7unYVeY[/URL].
Santa Marta Map - [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?hl=en&ll=11.226092008200787%2C-74.20681034361394&z=13&mid=1_nX67UxTcFP-1XJogY7IBumSY97shYxt[/URL].
Many thanks to World Traveler 69.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2730434]It's friendly but good luck getting a reservation. Also you will be paying American prices to stay there and a believe it's a fee for each visitor you bring in.
Most AirBB inside Palmetto Beach is a safe bet not to be confused with Plametto Sunset (do not stay here if you want to enjoy chicas).
Get yourself or group an AirBB that's guest friendly. El Laguito and Getsemeni are the two locations that have many but they are booked way in advance. Read the house rules carefully, ask about visitors if they aren't in in there. Noise ordnance, capacity, etc.
If you choose Centro for the AirBB it will be expensive for what you get and you might not get hot water.
It's allot of homework but once it's done you will have a solid list of locations you can stay.[/QUOTE]Haven't gone yet to Cartagena, but plan to go hopefully later this year. Couple tips I have discovered so far that I'm not sure is common knowledge:
1 - Guest friendly doesn't necessarily mean 100% guest friendly. Like Nypher said, some charge you for guests. Others, apparently according to reviews, allow guests, but only to a certain time. One Airbnb I saw said guest friendly, but reviews say they kick guests out at 6 am, which sounds like a PITA. Can't even get a full night's sleep.
2 - Since Airbnb doesn't have great search functions for guest friendly places, you can go to google, type "site:[URL]www.airbnb.com[/URL] Cartagena guest friendly" and google will search Airbnb for those search terms. Note that this doesn't necessarily guarantee correct results. For example, it will return search results where the location had someone write a review with the words "guest" and "friendly" in there. For example a review could say "I was a guest here, and the host was very friendly", but that doesn't mean its a guest friendly location. But it will significantly improve your ability to search.
Someone tell me if my plan looks okay. I'm thinking about visiting sometime mid / late November. Intend on staying solo for a few weeks, though I worry about getting drugged / robbed a little bit since I won't have anyone to watch my back. Anyways, hopefully try to build a roster of potentials before my trip. Meet them, see which ones I vibe with and seem trustworthy. Invite the girl (s) with me to a trip to Isla Rosario for some beach / ocean fun as well as non-stop adult fun.
For building my roster, I'm going to look thru seeking, tinder, maybe some Colombian dating sites. I'd like to go thru some hot insta / facebook women, but I have no idea how to go about finding them. Maybe search thru some local university's social media and find people who are affiliated with those places? Would appreciate help there. Been also trying to hit up legit model agencies and seeing if any of their lesser known (less expensive) talent have social media accounts, but seems like that's more a Bogota / Medellin thing. Cartagena doesn't seem to have a lot to look up.
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[QUOTE=Glhfddka;2732500]Haven't gone yet to Cartagena, but plan to go hopefully later this year. Couple tips I have discovered so far that I'm not sure is common knowledge:
1 - Guest friendly doesn't necessarily mean 100% guest friendly. Like Nypher said, some charge you for guests. Others, apparently according to reviews, allow guests, but only to a certain time. One Airbnb I saw said guest friendly, but reviews say they kick guests out at 6 am, which sounds like a PITA. Can't even get a full night's sleep.
2 - Since Airbnb doesn't have great search functions for guest friendly places, you can go to google, type "site:[URL]www.airbnb.com[/URL] Cartagena guest friendly" and google will search Airbnb for those search terms. Note that this doesn't necessarily guarantee correct results. For example, it will return search results where the location had someone write a review with the words "guest" and "friendly" in there. For example a review could say "I was a guest here, and the host was very friendly", but that doesn't mean its a guest friendly location. But it will significantly improve your ability to search.
Someone tell me if my plan looks okay. I'm thinking about visiting sometime mid / late November. Intend on staying solo for a few weeks, though I worry about getting drugged / robbed a little bit since I won't have anyone to watch my back. Anyways, hopefully try to build a roster of potentials before my trip. Meet them, see which ones I vibe with and seem trustworthy. Invite the girl (s) with me to a trip to Isla Rosario for some beach / ocean fun as well as non-stop adult fun.
For building my roster, I'm going to look thru up.[/QUOTE]1. Marriott Ermita hotel if girfriendly. If you say Marriott nobody knows about it. It is known as Ermita hotel. I have invited two girls to stay with me and no problem. The girls and all visitors have to fill a form and sign. It was in Spanish and do not know what it said. Hotel has a nice breakfast for two people if you book for two.
2. My impression is there are lots of girls you can meet but getting GFE is not. Maybe if you are a frequent visitor and develop a friendship maybe. Otherwise all business. Depending on how much you offer and how much you are willing to spend there are plenty of options to hire a boat or take a tour with the girl to the islands.
I am much more familiar with Puerto Rican Spanish but in Cartagena they do not understand many of the words I know. If you speak fluent Spanish it is a big plus because very few girls there speak English. Translation apps is for birds to hold a conversation.
I have had very good GFE in Costa Rica, Panama, DR.
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[QUOTE=Glhfddka;2732500]Haven't gone yet to Cartagena, but plan to go hopefully later this year. Couple tips I have discovered so far that I'm not sure is common knowledge:
1 - Guest friendly doesn't necessarily mean 100% guest friendly. Like Nypher said, some charge you for guests. Others, apparently according to reviews, allow guests, but only to a certain time. One Airbnb I saw said guest friendly, but reviews say they kick guests out at 6 am, which sounds like a PITA. Can't even get a full night's sleep.
2 - Since Airbnb doesn't have great search functions for guest friendly places, you can go to google, type "site:[URL]www.airbnb.com[/URL] Cartagena guest friendly" and google will search Airbnb for those search terms. Note that this doesn't necessarily guarantee correct results. For example, it will return search results where the location had someone write a review with the words "guest" and "friendly" in there. For example a review could say "I was a guest here, and the host was very friendly", but that doesn't mean its a guest friendly location. But it will significantly improve your ability to search.
Someone tell me if my plan looks okay. I'm thinking about visiting sometime mid / late November. Intend on staying solo for a few weeks, though I worry about getting drugged / robbed a little bit since I won't have anyone to watch my back. Anyways, hopefully try to build a roster of potentials before my trip. Meet them, see which ones I vibe with and seem trustworthy. Invite the girl (s) with me to a trip to Isla Rosario for some beach / ocean fun as well as non-stop adult fun.
For building my roster, I'm going to look thru seeking, tinder, maybe some Colombian dating sites. I'd like to go thru some hot insta / facebook women, but I have no idea how to go about finding them. Maybe search thru some local university's social media and find people who are affiliated with those places? Would appreciate help there. Been also trying to hit up legit model agencies and seeing if any of their lesser known (less expensive) talent have social media accounts, but seems like that's more a Bogota / Medellin thing. Cartagena doesn't seem to have a lot to look up.[/QUOTE]Hey Glh,
I'm new to the forum (but I've been lurking for a long time, LOL). Your trip plan looks good to me, but be careful with Tinder and other dating apps in Colombia. A lot of people get set up and robbed that way.
It's always better to spontaneously meet women upfront and in-person in a public place like a bar, cafe, or disco. The women you meet spontaneously don't necessarily have the time to organize with others to "pre-plan" a theft or robbery in most cases.
I stumbled upon a pretty cool little channel on YouTube that's really getting into Cartagena. Check it out. I hope this helps!
[URL]https://youtu.be/IeGU3kUDxX0[/URL]
- SmokeChill.
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[QUOTE=SmokeChill;2732977]Hey Glh,
I'm new to the forum (but I've been lurking for a long time, LOL). Your trip plan looks good to me, but be careful with Tinder and other dating apps in Colombia. A lot of people get set up and robbed that way.
It's always better to spontaneously meet women upfront and in-person in a public place like a bar, cafe, or disco. The women you meet spontaneously don't necessarily have the time to organize with others to "pre-plan" a theft or robbery in most cases.
I stumbled upon a pretty cool little channel on YouTube that's really getting into Cartagena. Check it out. I hope this helps!
[URL]https://youtu.be/IeGU3kUDxX0[/URL]
- SmokeChill.[/QUOTE]If they are going to rob the gringo, then they are going to rob the gringo. They don't need to preplan anything as they are opportunistic thieves.
Its all on the gringo and what he's doing, if he looks and moves like a target then he will be a target no matter if its a dating app, club, or meeting them in the street and this is true for anywhere in any country.
*Disclaimer*.
This is just my perspective as someone who been getting chicas from Tinder in Cartagena for years and never been robbed by a Tinder chica. Maybe I'm the exception which is why I always jokingly tell others don't do what I do because I have done lots of " that was a stupid thing to do but it turned out great" things.
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Hollywood beach
I've been to Cartagena a time or two but never had time to enjoy the place.
Looks like I'll be back for a couple of days this Fall. I've read the recent posts and it sounds like only a couple of the hotels allow guests to accompany you to your rooms. Dan hotel, and perhaps hotel Oz. The AirBNB sounds tempting but I don't like the uncertainty of it being guest friendly or not.
What is the routine for Hollywood Beach? How does it work for the chairs, umbrellas and food? And from what I can tell from the forum, it is a good spot for daytime action.
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Beaches
The beaches in Cartagena proper suck. Dirty and filled to the brim with touts who won't leave you alone.
The proper way to do Cartagena is online or in the clubs. Find the best chica you click with. Try her out a few times. Take her to Baru for an overnight. The girls love that. The resorts in Baru are private, so no touts and usually only other couples. It's quiet and enjoyable and your chica will sex you crazy.
See why'all there next week!
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[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2735921]The beaches in Cartagena proper suck. Dirty and filled to the brim with touts who won't leave you alone![/QUOTE]It seems like those touts have an eye for who to pester. They can almost pinpoint the gringos who will pay them to leave. Watching the scenario of them irritating guys is comical as hell.
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Rosarios
What's the scene like at Isla Grande / Rosarios? Is Isla Grande the best place to stay if you're going to do an overnight or two, in terms of general beach activities?
Is there any sort of clubs or nightlife at all on the islands? I'm seeing a lot of attractive women at some of the beach clubs on the Rosarios, I assume they're employees of these establishments. Do these beach clubs stay open at night, and is there an opportunity to meet some of these women after hours / TLN?
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[QUOTE=BiggusDickus39;2735767]I've been to Cartagena a time or two but never had time to enjoy the place.
Looks like I'll be back for a couple of days this Fall. I've read the recent posts and it sounds like only a couple of the hotels allow guests to accompany you to your rooms. Dan hotel, and perhaps hotel Oz. The AirBNB sounds tempting but I don't like the uncertainty of it being guest friendly or not.
What is the routine for Hollywood Beach? How does it work for the chairs, umbrellas and food? And from what I can tell from the forum, it is a good spot for daytime action.[/QUOTE]Find Pedro at Playa Hollywood. Tony will bring girls and make you buy drinks. One for you one for me
Ask for Luz or Emilie for a massage and they will take care you. Oscar sells cerviche. It's a bit of a circus and noisy but a lot of fun. All the girls will be there at the end of the day.
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[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2735998]It seems like those touts have an eye for who to pester. They can almost pinpoint the gringos who will pay them to leave. Watching the scenario of them irritating guys is comical as hell.[/QUOTE]Yes, it's a sport. As soon as they spot one it's game on.
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Koren influencer gave papaya
Article.
[URL]https://agencyefe.com/more-scams-in-cartagena-influencer-zion-hwang-was-charged-600-thousand-per-massage%EF%BF%BC/[/URL]
Video of him saying what happened.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_dWiRokPwc[/URL]
Now what's funny about this is that he appears to know enough Spanish enough to understand what they were saying (I don't know if hes fluent or not), but where he failed was to get the exact price up front BEFORE they started doing anything. Nothing is free, there is no gratis or promotion no matter how many times a tout says it.
Another trick they will use if one would start massaging you and a second would come and start massaging you as well, gringo will think they are paying 1 price for the entire massage, but it turns out to be double the price as each person works independently and its one price per person.
Many of us have spoken about this many times to warn others but its one of those things where many won't believe it until they experience it, keep your head up, use those street smarts. No dar papaya LOL.
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2737721]Find Pedro at Playa Hollywood. Tony will bring girls and make you buy drinks. One for you one for me
Ask for Luz or Emilie for a massage and they will take care you. Oscar sells cerviche. It's a bit of a circus and noisy but a lot of fun. All the girls will be there at the end of the day.[/QUOTE]Oscar is pretty cool. I've dealt with him several times with no problems. What does Luz look like? Is she one of the black massage ladies that walks around on the beach soliciting massages?
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Cartagena first timer
1 week ago.
Day 1.
Entered dolce vita (DV) around midnight. About 40 girls, screened a few girls and everyone offered standard sex with everything covered. Offered to pay extra for BBBJ but they wouldn't budge. Agreed upon 900 k pesos for TLN with a pretty Venezuelan. The hotel I stayed at has a policy that says no guests between 23.00 - 07.00, and 80 USD fee for additional guests so I wasn't sure ID be able to bring her to my suite (I booked for 2 people) but the guy working security told me to sign her in at the reception. The hotel is designed in a way so that you can't access your room without passing the reception so there was no way of sneaking her in. The guy working in the reception signed her in and asked me if I wanted to check her in for 1 or 2 nights, I said 1 and that was it. No fee! Later I tipped him 40 k pesos when I escorted her out (his badge said apprentice so I wanted to encourage him to not become a cock block). I ended up having sex for 1 h and cancelled the TLN because I wasn't feeling her vibe. Gave her 600 k and she was not happy because she wanted to stay all night and get the agreed upon 900 k.
Day 2.
Went to DV again looking for a girl with big ass and big tits that would let me fuck her tits and jizz all over them. Found a nice mulata, took her number and started to talk to other girls trying to find more options. Having not found better options I tried looking for the mulata and she was not around. Whatsapped her but as she had a Venezuelan number she was having network problem (this is what locals told me about Venezuelan numbers). Went to the clock tower to kill time and hope she would respond. Found a Venezuelan outside the clock tower which I had seen in DV, big ass and quite big boobs but face wasn't the best. Asked how much for TLN she said 800 k and was ok with titty fuck and jizz on them. As soon as I tell her let's go the mulata reaches out on WhatsApp but I leave with the one I'm with. Same routine as yesterday with registering her at the reception but this time I didn't tip the guy working (not the same guy as yesterday). After the first orgasm she told me she has to leave at 05.00? That's in 3 h30 min I tell her, she says well that is when I have to leave. So I basically paid 800 k for 2 h which was a good deal considering yesterday but I still felt cheated.
I stayed at Hotel Estelar Bocagrande.
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Sheesh
800 k and 900 k for a couple hours of work. You paid them more the. Doctors and lawyers in the states make LOL.
[QUOTE=DasBooty;2739793]1 week ago.
Day 1.
Entered dolce vita (DV) around midnight. About 40 girls, screened a few girls and everyone offered standard sex with everything covered. Offered to pay extra for BBBJ but they wouldn't budge. Agreed upon 900 k pesos for TLN with a pretty venezuelan. The hotel I stayed at has a policy that says no guests between 23.00 - 07.00, and 80 USD fee for additional guests so I wasnt sure ID be able to bring her to my suite (I booked for 2 people) but the guy working security told me to sign her in at the reception. The hotel is designed in a way so that you can't access your room without passing the reception so there was no way of sneaking her in. The guy working in the reception signed her in and asked me if I wanted to check her in for 1 or 2 nights, I said 1 and that was it. No fee! Later I tipped him 40 k pesos when I escorted her out (his badge said apprentice so I wanted to encourage him to not become a cock block). I ended up having sex for 1 h and cancelled the TLN because I wasnt feeling her vibe. Gave her 600 k and she was not happy because she wanted to stay all night and get the agreed upon 900 k.
Day 2.
Went to DV again looking for a girl with big ass and big tits that would let me fuck her tits and jizz all over them. Found a nice mulata, took her number and started to talk to other girls trying to find more options. Having not found better options I tried looking for the mulata and she was not around. Whatsapped her but as she had a venezuelan number she was having network problem (this is what locals told me about venezuelan numbers). Went to the clock tower to kill time and hope she would respond. Found a venezuelan outside the clock tower which I had seen in DV, big ass and quite big boobs but face wasnt the best. Asked how much for TLN she said 800 k and was ok with titty fuck and jizz on them. As soon as I tell her let's go the mulata reaches out on whatsapp but I leave with the one I'm with. Same routine as yesterday with registering her at the reception but this time I didn't tip the guy working (not the same guy as yesterday). After the first orgasm she told me she has to leave at 05.00?! Thats in 3 h30 min I tell her, she says well that is when I have to leave. So I basically paid 800 k for 2 h which was a good deal considering yesterday but I still felt cheated.
I stayed at Hotel Estelar Bocagrande.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DasBooty;2739793]The guy working in the reception signed her in and asked me if I wanted to check her in for 1 or 2 nights, I said 1 and that was it. No fee! Later I tipped him 40 k pesos[/QUOTE]So you gave the guy 1 day's wage for a tip? Did you come in from Sosua by chance?
[QUOTE=DasBooty;2739793]So I basically paid 800 k for 2 h which was a good deal considering yesterday but I still felt cheated.[/QUOTE]Good deal? Well at least you cheated yourself each time out. Nobody else to blame for any of this. I am thoroughly convinced that guys go to ruin these mongering places on purpose. With all the information here supplied by Nypher and others there is no excuse.
People come on ISG and ask a ton of questions before their trip, but either they do not pay attention to the answers or they just don't care anyway. Brother in the Sosua thread is going through the same shit. Gets to Sosua and first thing he does is try to rent a golf cart. I have been on this forum for 17 years and this is the very first mention I have ever seen of somebody trying to rent a golf cart in a town 3 blocks long. In no other reports or answers to your questions have you seen someone say make sure to rent a golf cart, but fuck it!
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Take it as a learning experience
[QUOTE=DasBooty;2739793]1 week ago.
Day 1.
Entered dolce vita (DV) around midnight. About 40 girls, screened a few girls and everyone offered standard sex with everything covered. Offered to pay extra for BBBJ but they wouldn't budge. Agreed upon 900 k pesos for TLN with a pretty venezuelan. The hotel I stayed at has a policy that says no guests between 23.00 - 07.00, and 80 USD fee for additional guests so I wasnt sure ID be able to bring her to my suite (I booked for 2 people) but the guy working security told me to sign her in at the reception. The hotel is designed in a way so that you can't access your room without passing the reception so there was no way of sneaking her in. The guy working in the reception signed her in and asked me if I wanted to check her in for 1 or 2 nights, I said 1 and that was it. No fee! Later I tipped him 40 k pesos when I escorted her out (his badge said apprentice so I wanted to encourage him to not become a cock block). I ended up having sex for 1 h and cancelled the TLN because I wasnt feeling her vibe. Gave her 600 k and she was not happy because she wanted to stay all night and get the agreed upon 900 k. [/QUOTE]At the time you entered LDV there is nothing but hardcore putas there, or they are on their second or third gringo got the night. Since you're a new face BBBJ would be difficult, appearance helps as well such as young, in shape good hygiene, etc but I'm going to guess your timing and new face is what did it. 900 K was too much especially at the time you entered the club. The 600 K for 1 hour was steal for her as that's 200 K more than what she should have gotten for 1 hour and that's being generous. I've said it many times after I learned the hard way never do TLN with a new girl, take them during the day to try them out then if you like them bring them back for the TLN. Attempting a TLN with a chica just met a few minutes ago is a gamble but some like that thrill of the hunt.
[QUOTE]Day 2.
Went to DV again looking for a girl with big ass and big tits that would let me fuck her tits and jizz all over them. Found a nice mulata, took her number and started to talk to other girls trying to find more options. Having not found better options I tried looking for the mulata and she was not around. Whatsapped her but as she had a venezuelan number she was having network problem (this is what locals told me about venezuelan numbers). Went to the clock tower to kill time and hope she would respond. Found a venezuelan outside the clock tower which I had seen in DV, big ass and quite big boobs but face wasnt the best. Asked how much for TLN she said 800 k and was ok with titty fuck and jizz on them. As soon as I tell her let's go the mulata reaches out on whatsapp but I leave with the one I'm with. Same routine as yesterday with registering her at the reception but this time I didn't tip the guy working (not the same guy as yesterday). After the first orgasm she told me she has to leave at 05.00?!.[/QUOTE]Looks like you took another gamble of better will come along and it didn't. By not telling her what time she can leave you gave her room to cut your time short while getting full payment. 800 K for 2 hours / damn she made out like a bandit jajaja.
Since its your first trip you learned what not to do on your second trip. Timing to enter the club, try them before committing to a TLN, looking for something better will come along after midnight, Venezuelan numbers, chica cutting your time short, etc. All learning experiences. But I understand why the chicas are doing it, there has been lots of flooding in Cartagena lately so many girls aren't coming out, there have also been increased robberies targeting the girls so many are only willing to go to and from the gringo and not walk around by themselves. 10 of my girls have had their phones stolen in the last 4 months one girl had it stolen twice.
Your next trip will be better with the experience from this trip.
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Relax
If I were poor I would have found these prices outrages too. I had a good time and that is all that matters.
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Please stay in sosua
Poor or rich has nothing to do it. You wouldn't pay 10 grand for a used car that you know cost 3 grand just because you got it and why not. But to each his own I don't tell a man how to spend his money or am I pocket watcher. But if you never been to Dominican republic it's a place called sosua that you will love. You should travel there and only go there LOL.
[QUOTE=DasBooty;2740009]If I were poor I would have found these prices outrages too. I had a good time and that is all that matters.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DasBooty;2740009]If I were poor I would have found these prices outrages too. I had a good time and that is all that matters.[/QUOTE]Have some compassion for the poor monger. You will have ladies asking these prices from poor dudes; they will eventually come down of course but haggling can be a b*t*h.
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How does this plan look
Long time lurker but finally was able to go through subscription.
I've been reading a bunch of the posts on the forum and looking for some additional advice.
Ill be coming in with some friends and only able to really hobby for 26 hours. Then we have some friends who aren't into hobbying arriving so I need to maximize this.
Early morning try to get an early date:
1) Tinder: been scouring tinder for about a week now. Been scouring so much that I ran out of matches LOL. I have about 10 matches and some of those matches have friends. Some are good and some are just ok.
I want to try to broaden my online options before I show up.
Does anyone use anything else besides tinder?
Has anyone reached out to any of the escort websites??
Afternoon.
2) Thursday at playa Hollywood.
We arrive early and figured wed kill some time on the beach. How is the beach on a Thursday?
Some of the reports on here are so iffy, especially with the insane upcharge and getting hassled.
Watched some videos.
Evening:
3) we plan to go to dolce. Would going to dolce at 9 pm be way to early? We really enjoy looking at all the options. Just curious.
4) no one ever mentioned Pley club before. Is it because it's outside the wall? Not really worth it? Just read about it online.
We are also going to take a trip to rosario islands on a separate day with guys who aren't into hobbying. But we would like to take cute girls with us for the cheap. Has anyone ever done this? Wondering how much you guys paid for a whole 9-5 trip no extras.
Let me know if I missed anything.
Now I have to go through all the pages again and PM users who have good contacts.
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[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2738931]Oscar is pretty cool. I've dealt with him several times with no problems. What does Luz look like? Is she one of the black massage ladies that walks around on the beach soliciting massages?[/QUOTE]She doesn't walk around. Everyone knows them just ask.
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Looks like too much in a short window.
[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2740584]Long time lurker but finally was able to go through subscription.
I've been reading a bunch of the posts on the forum and looking for some additional advice.
Ill be coming in with some friends and only able to really hobby for 26 hours. Then we have some friends who aren't into hobbying arriving so I need to maximize this..[/QUOTE]It looks like you're doing the YouTube passport bros playbook doing the same beach, same club, same area jajaja. I personally avoid them.
1. Tinder is good and may be your quickest option. The benefit of this is that you can talk to the chica a few days before meeting to feel out her personality and see where you can joke around and what pisses her off. I would also get their Instagram and go through it to see what she's been up to recently or how old are her pictures. Seeking will over charge for the little time you will be there.
2. Sunday is the big beach day. Thursday is the starting of club weekend. Something will be there at the beach but not in high demand. I would also have a back up plan as it's been raining allot lately, many of chicas are staying in to avoid the issue of not being able to get home due to flooding. I would avoid Playa Hollywood all together but if you want the first hand experience of feeling like a piece of bread surrounded by seagulls, then have at it jajaja. I won't now go unless you have a local girl with you or make sure you keep track of the prices, what you ordered and get prices up front.
3. Entering Dolce at 9 is a bit too early. Chicas start arriving at 10 but by then you may encounter the bullshit at the door where they won't let you in unless you get bottle service. I normally stay outside and see what's going in and snipe the good ones numbers for later, as in before 11 pm or early morning next day if the are staying close by. Also take a look at Space next to Dolce and Imper across the street by the KFC. Do not go with blinders on and limit yourself to just 1 club for the night, try them all, except Delirium, F that place unless the ATL, Miami, NYC hip hop crowd is your thing jajaja.
4. It's in the hood. It doesn't make sense to leave the walls and go there just for a single club especially when crime is increasing. Put your safety first. They are also voting on a decree that will close clubs by 1 am to prevent crime. So get girls early and move the party back to you Airbnb. This is where a hot tub shines.
A 9-5 island trip with me is free but then again it's all included. To elaborate, whatever girl you plan to bring on the boat make sure she sleeps over and have her stuff with her. These chicas are always late and sometimes very flakey. You do not want to be that guy waiting on her and she gives a BS excuse why she couldn't get there on time before the boat leaves. Waiting on taxi, it's raining, woke up late, doing makeup, the excuses are endless. So whoever you will take to the island negotiate a TLN using the island day trip as leverage to get more sex or a lower price. If she likes you she will go for free and just enjoy being there with you and will only bring up money if you want sex. Make sure you are both on the same page of what will happen. Make sure you let her know up front what is expected of her. Pay her at the end of the trip to let her know business is done, she just might stay and you can tap her brain for info like places to eat things to do new places just opening, etc.
Also remember, rain can mess up any of what you have planned so have a at least 2 backup plans ready for every activity.
Have fun!
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[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2740584]Long time lurker but finally was able to go through subscription.
I've been reading a bunch of the posts on the forum and looking for some additional advice.
Ill be coming in with some friends and only able to really hobby for 26 hours. Then we have some friends who aren't into hobbying arriving so I need to maximize this.
Early morning try to get an early date:
1) Tinder: been scouring tinder for about a week now. Been scouring so much that I ran out of matches LOL. I have about 10 matches and some of those matches have friends. Some are good and some are just ok.
I want to try to broaden my online options before I show up.
Does anyone use anything else besides tinder?
Has anyone reached out to any of the escort websites??
Afternoon.
2) Thursday at playa Hollywood.
We arrive early and figured wed kill some time on the beach. How is the beach on a Thursday?
Some of the reports on here are so iffy, especially with the insane upcharge and getting hassled.
Watched some videos.
Evening:
3) we plan to go to dolce. Would going to dolce at 9 pm be way to early? We really enjoy looking at all the options. Just curious.
4) no one ever mentioned Pley club before. Is it because it's outside the wall? Not really worth it? Just read about it online.
We are also going to take a trip to rosario islands on a separate day with guys who aren't into hobbying. But we would like to take cute girls with us for the cheap. Has anyone ever done this? Wondering how much you guys paid for a whole 9-5 trip no extras.
Let me know if I missed anything.
Now I have to go through all the pages again and PM users who have good contacts.[/QUOTE]You want to get cute girls cheap to go to the islands there are a lot of beach fruit madres around I'm sure they'll go for very cheap. Go to playa Hollywood and ask for Gloria she'll cut your dick off too. LOL. No extra charge.
Nightclub at 9:00-- no problem.
Lining up in advances of waste of time unless you already know the girls. Could be some guy behind the girls picture with a big dick. Then again some people might like that.
Besides the more in advance you line up the more you pay that's a given
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2740825]You Eso suena genial ¿Tienes un whatsapp? want to get cute girls cheap to go to the islands there are a lot of beach fruit madres around I'm sure they'll go for very cheap. Go to playa Hollywood and ask for Gloria she'll cut your dick off too. LOL. No extra charge.
Nightclub at 9:00-- no problem.
Lining up in advances of waste of time unless you already know the girls. Could be some guy behind the girls picture with a big dick. Then again some people might like that.
Besides the more in advance you line up the more you pay that's a given[/QUOTE]LOL yeah that's my only worry with the tinder thing. I don't want a surprise trans.
Wonder if anyone used any of the escort websites posted in Carthage reports. They are insanely overpriced but very beautiful which is what my friend might be down for.
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[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2740827]LOL yeah that's my only worry with the tinder thing. I don't want a surprise trans.
Wonder if anyone used any of the escort websites posted in Carthage reports. They are insanely overpriced but very beautiful which is what my friend might be down for.[/QUOTE]Mileroticos is somewhat legitimate, the other ones are questionable
Trust me once you experience a Friday night in the Old City around the clubs and back of the Clock Tower. You're not going to have any problems. Believe it or not there are hundreds of girls who want to find you.... or some version of you
The main thing to do is stop overthinking it and don't make any plans in advance.
And don't be cheap. The only people are real problems are the ones who are cheap and treat people rudely
If you go down to Hollywood Beach a few hours before sunset there is all kinds of action. And on the street in Laguito all kinds of women. I'll be down after the 21st
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2740988] I'll be down after the 21st[/QUOTE]We might cross paths. I'm planning for 1st week of October.
I'll be mostly incognito and might do the clubs twice during the month stay.
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[QUOTE=DasBooty;2740009]If I were poor I would have found these prices outrages too. I had a good time and that is all that matters.[/QUOTE]It's not about being poor. It's about you, the customer, getting the most value for your dollar. You were had. I was in Cartagena at the same time as you, and I got a bareback threesome from two chicas all night (10 pm til 8 am the next day) for 800 k total. Be more choosy and bargain harder. These girls are used to sleeping with Colombian men for less half of what a normal foreigner pays. Best of luck on your next go round.
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Short time motels
I'm having trouble finding a decent hotel or apartment that is guest friendly near the beach. What's the deal with the motels, are they completely nasty? What is the price?
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Damn
[QUOTE=Nypher;2740799]It looks like you're doing the YouTube passport bros playbook doing the same beach, same club, same area jajaja. I personally avoid them.
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2. Sunday is the big beach day. Thursday is the starting of club weekend. Something will be there at the beach but not in high demand. I would also have a back up plan as it's been raining allot lately, many of chicas are staying in to avoid the issue of not being able to get home due to flooding. I would avoid Playa Hollywood all together but if you want the first hand experience of feeling like a piece of bread surrounded by seagulls, then have at it jajaja. I won't now go unless you have a local girl with you or make sure you keep track of the prices, what you ordered and get prices up front.
A 9-5 island trip with me is free but then again it's all included. To elaborate, whatever girl you plan to bring on the boat make sure she sleeps over and have her stuff with her. These chicas are always late and sometimes very flakey. You do not want to be that guy waiting on her and she gives a BS excuse why she couldn't get there on time before the boat leaves. Waiting on taxi, it's raining, woke up late, doing makeup, the excuses are endless. So whoever you will take to the island negotiate a TLN using the island day trip as leverage to get more sex or a lower price. If she likes you she will go for free and just enjoy being there with you and will only bring up money if you want sex. Make sure you are both on the same page of what will happen. Make sure you let her know up front what is expected of her. Pay her at the end of the trip to let her know business is done, she just might stay and you can tap her brain for info like places to eat things to do new places just opening, etc.
Also remember, rain can mess up any of what you have planned so have a at least 2 backup plans ready for every activity.
Have fun![/QUOTE]Dang our forecast next week is all thunderstorm. I thought the rain passes by quickly.
Is it raining so much that there is flooding? Damn we're going to have to find huge back up plans.
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The chicas will know
[QUOTE=Bobbo123;2741429]I'm having trouble finding a decent hotel or apartment that is guest friendly near the beach. What's the deal with the motels, are they completely nasty? What is the price?[/QUOTE]The chicas will know where the short tie hotels are if not try getting a AirBB in Palmetto Beach or El Poseidon. Make sure you read the house rules before hand and verify with the Host visitors are allowed.
These are the only 2 properties near the beach that I'm aware of that have units that are guest friendly.
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This was last month
[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2741544]Dang our forecast next week is all thunderstorm. I thought the rain passes by quickly.
Is it raining so much that there is flooding? Damn we're going to have to find huge back up plans.[/QUOTE]This is a video from last month and its still raining allot off and on. Their drainage system cannot handle that much water. Bocagrande and El Laguito I've always known to have flooding issues but this is the first time I've seen Centro like this. Another thing to keep in mind, when this flooding starts the cab prices sky rocket to where an 8 mil COP ride is all of a sudden now 20 mil COP ride.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_IdoMiZbOU[/URL]
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[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2741544]Dang our forecast next week is all thunderstorm. I thought the rain passes by quickly.
Is it raining so much that there is flooding? Damn we're going to have to find huge back up plans.[/QUOTE]Tropical weather The thunderstorms normally pass but sometimes it floods and sometimes it will rain all day. It's quite fun though.
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2740593]She doesn't walk around. Everyone knows them just ask.[/QUOTE]You still didn't give me a description of her.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2740799]It looks like you're doing the YouTube passport bros playbook doing the same beach, same club, same area jajaja. I personally avoid them.
1. Tinder is good and may be your quickest option. The benefit of this is that you can talk to the chica a few days before meeting to feel out her personality and see where you can joke around and what pisses her off. I would also get their Instagram and go through it to see what she's been up to recently or how old are her pictures. Seeking will over charge for the little time you will be there.
2. Sunday is the big beach day. Thursday is the starting of club weekend. Something will be there at the beach but not in high demand. I would also have a back up plan as it's been raining allot lately, many of chicas are staying in to avoid the issue of not being able to get home due to flooding. I would avoid Playa Hollywood all together but if you want the first hand experience of feeling like a piece of bread surrounded by seagulls, then have at it jajaja. I won't now go unless you have a local girl with you or make sure you keep track of the prices, what you ordered and get prices up front.
3. Entering Dolce at 9 is a bit too early. Chicas start arriving at 10 but by then you may encounter the bullshit at the door where they won't let you in unless you get bottle service. I normally stay outside and see what's going in and snipe the good ones numbers for later, as in before 11 pm or early morning next day if the are staying close by. Also take a look at Space next to Dolce and Imper across the street by the KFC. Do not go with blinders on and limit yourself to just 1 club for the night, try them all, except Delirium, F that place unless the ATL, Miami, NYC hip hop crowd is your thing jajaja.
4. It's in the hood. It doesn't make sense to leave the walls and go there just for a single club especially when crime is increasing. Put your safety first. They are also voting on a decree that will close clubs by 1 am to prevent crime. So get girls early and move the party back to you Airbnb. This is where a hot tub shines.
A 9-5 island trip with me is free but then again it's all included. To elaborate, whatever girl you plan to bring on the boat make sure she sleeps over and have her stuff with her. These chicas are always late and sometimes very flakey. You do not want to be that guy waiting on her and she gives a BS excuse why she couldn't get there on time before the boat leaves. Waiting on taxi, it's raining, woke up late, doing makeup, the excuses are endless. So whoever you will take to the island negotiate a TLN using the island day trip as leverage to get more sex or a lower price. If she likes you she will go for free and just enjoy being there with you and will only bring up money if you want sex. Make sure you are both on the same page of what will happen. Make sure you let her know up front what is expected of her. Pay her at the end of the trip to let her know business is done, she just might stay and you can tap her brain for info like places to eat things to do new places just opening, etc.
Also remember, rain can mess up any of what you have planned so have a at least 2 backup plans ready for every activity.
Have fun![/QUOTE]If you send me a PM I will give you a few of my good ones just call them better than Tinder or escorts, use as a referral. My phone book is getting too big anyway since I'm there 10 days every month and get many.
Numbers. I don't do clubs anymore and if I do its just going out with co-workers so don't have numbers from the club girls. Send the PM call them If you get one that fits really good have them find you island dates, rainy day days. I tell them if I really like what you find me I will give them a small fee for the help. Ever baddie I have had I use them to make and find my next at bat and so on. Works great if your time is short.
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Incorrect information. Sunday is the big beach day for locals and families, not for chicas. Friday and Saturday are the big days for chica action at Hollywood.
Monday- Wednesday are the worst days.
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Selina Cartagena
Hi,
Does anybody know if Selina is guest friendly if you have a private room? I like the idea of having a cool coworking space to use during the day. I sent them a message and they seemed to say that as a solo traveler you can bring a guest for short time to you room. But it would be great to verify this with the brotherhood. I don't want to commit to this then be screwed if some kid at the front desk doesn't let me in.
Here is what they said:
- Si es una visita corta no es necesario añadir a la persona a la habitación, pero si es muy importante que tenga su documento físico y lo muestre al momento de entrar a la habitación y hacer el registro en recepción.
- Claro que debe realizar registro de acompañante.
Then I said: ok jaja para resumir: porque estoy solo puedo traer un invitado a la suite why necesitan tener documentación. No se agregarán a la reserva de la habitación, y tambiéand está bien traer invitados diferentes.
Then they said: Exacto, maximo son dos personas en la habitacion, ya si son varias personas pueden estar en la areas comunes como en las terrazas, los bares o restaurantes.
Thoughts?
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This is standard guests (chicas) must have ID. And you are limited to two people including yourself staying overnight and they must be registered.
Only registered guests at the pool. No putas LOL
If you are chill you are OK. This was standard pre covid.
[QUOTE=Bobbo123;2742816]Hi,
Does anybody know if Selina is guest friendly if you have a private room? I like the idea of having a cool coworking space to use during the day. I sent them a message and they seemed to say that as a solo traveler you can bring a guest for short time to you room. But it would be great to verify this with the brotherhood. I don't want to commit to this then be screwed if some kid at the front desk doesn't let me in.
Here is what they said:
- Si es una visita corta no es necesario aadir a la persona a la habitacin, pero si es muy importante que tenga su documento fsico y lo muestre al momento de entrar a la habitacin y hacer el registro en recepcin.
- Claro que debe realizar registro de acompaante.
Then I said: ok jaja para resumir: porque estoy solo puedo traer un invitado a la suite why necesitan tener documentacin. No se agregarn a la reserva de la habitacin, y tambiand est bien traer invitados diferentes.
Then they said: Exacto, maximo son dos personas en la habitacion, ya si son varias personas pueden estar en la areas comunes como en las terrazas, los bares o restaurantes.
Thoughts?[/QUOTE]
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Cartagena trip 9/6-9/11
Just got back couple days ago from a 5 day trip.
Stayed in Posidon building in Laguito as usual- no problems with visitors at all or time restrictions.
Chica pricing relatively same, but does fluctuate depending the girl- there's no set system on pricing. We did our usual pickups from clock tower / LDV / space / delirium- between 500,000-800,000 pesos for 4-5 hours till 4 am, and two leches. Same routine all 5 nights.
All the clubs were shut down Saturday night between like 10 pm and midnight. Something about police / robberies, etc. Came back at midnight to pick up chicas, but maybe only 20-25% chicas came out. Was slim pickings.
One learning lesson from the trip- got basically robbed on the boat day trip. Went to playa blanca first which was cool, they actually had police there who came over to make sure we weren't being harassed. Then went to chalon; got ripped off. Boat drivers and chicas orders drinks and food, they bring the bill out as we were leaving at the cost of 3,500,000 for 8 people- and non of my boys even ordered food. Just one drink each. Smh. Also the boat guys were def in on this, as they went to shore for 5 min as were leaving and hopped back on the boat. However, we will have the last laugh as they accepted my credit card which will now be easily disputed. They will lose out on the full bill Plus the cut they gave to the boat guys jajajajaj.
Went to a third island 5 min away called azul or something, super private super nice, not one person even approached us to sell us anything. In our next trip will go to playa blanca and straight to this this island, skipping chalon island.
Overall, great trip, but felt maybe the quality of chicas went down a bit. The girls who know can get it every night start by quoting in USD (happened at least 10 times to me), so watch out for that. Never pay in USD.
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Registered means?
[QUOTE=Kafka;2743004]This is standard guests (chicas) must have ID. And you are limited to two people including yourself staying overnight and they must be registered.
Only registered guests at the pool. No putas LOL
If you are chill you are OK. This was standard pre covid.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the help! What I still get confused about is what "Registered" means. Does that mean they are officially added to my room? Or that they're visit is simply logged at the front desk for the short time visit. What I want: short time 1-2 hour costs, a different lady per night, but not having them get added to my reservation. And I am chill, no worries there.
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[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2743018]One learning lesson from the trip- got basically robbed on the boat day trip. Boat drivers and chicas orders drinks and food, they bring the bill out as we were leaving at the cost of 3,500,000 for 8 people- and non of my boys even ordered food. Just one drink each.[/QUOTE]How does this happen to folks? Do you just go about all willy nilly not asking how much things cost before agreeing to buy it? Did you tell the boat drivers to get whatever they wanted and you would pay for it? 800 fucking dollars? Man they would have had to call in the SWAT team on me.
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What that bill itemized?
[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2743018]Just got back couple days ago from a 5 day trip.
Stayed in Posidon building in Laguito as usual- no problems with visitors at all or time restrictions.
Chica pricing relatively same, but does fluctuate depending the girl- there's no set system on pricing. We did our usual pickups from clock tower / LDV / space / delirium- between 500,000-800,000 pesos for 4-5 hours till 4 am, and two leches. Same routine all 5 nights.
All the clubs were shut down Saturday night between like 10 pm and midnight. Something about police / robberies, etc. Came back at midnight to pick up chicas, but maybe only 20-25% chicas came out. Was slim pickings.
One learning lesson from the trip- got basically robbed on the boat day trip. Went to playa blanca first which was cool, they actually had police there who came over to make sure we weren't being harassed. Then went to chalon; got ripped off. Boat drivers and chicas orders drinks and food, they bring the bill out as we were leaving at the cost of 3,500,000 for 8 people- and non of my boys even ordered food. Just one drink each. Smh. Also the boat guys were def in on this, as they went to shore for 5 min as were leaving and hopped back on the boat. However, we will have the last laugh as they accepted my credit card which will now be easily disputed. They will lose out on the full bill Plus the cut they gave to the boat guys jajajajaj.[/QUOTE]Remember my boat report [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2596444&viewfull=1#post2596444[/URL] Our bill was itemized so it was easy to see what was what.
Your bill looks to be about $800, from what my chicas told me recently, the price of food on the islands went up a lot but not no $800 bill allot. I don't know how many girls you had but if they ordered food and the boat crew ordered as well (usually a crew of 2 minimum) then you and your boys had dinks (did you and your boys pay attention to those drink prices?) then add the 20% surcharge that 3,500,000 COP would require an itemized breakdown before I pay anything, F that bringing me a single large ass number on a napkin BS! I normally only work with Helmer if he's working the island that day and tip him accordingly.
The "Azul something" you are referring to is probably the Blue Apple. My main chica wanted me to take her there for a few nights but not with those American prices for those rooms.
If you are going to play that charge back game I have to warn you, that your boat days may be over. The boat guys and the people that work the islands all know each other and as soon as you decide to step foot on another boat and they recognize you or one of your friends, there will be a problem. I've been there, where my friends and I went to Cholon, rode the jet skis and banana boat and we told them to add it to the bill with the food since we were going to pay with a card (to save the Pesos for chicas). This way we pay fanny pack man with card and he can pay the jetski guys and banana boat guys in cash and everything is all set. We paid then left to go to another island. 30 minutes later the banana boat guys showed up where we were on a separate island 30 minutes away telling us we didn't pay them. My boy start arguing that we did pay and they added it to the bill, meanwhile the thought didn't dawn on me how the fuck they found us because we were going full throttle for a minute, and they showed up to our exact location with that little ass fishing boat (our boat crew told them where we were). Then I checked what was charged and added it up, turns out it was short by quite a bit. What we didn't realize was they only added the jetski to the bill and not the banana boat. Now they want the banana boat money we owed, plus money for the gas they used to track us down and gas money to return back to Cholon. SMH. I shit you not we were going back and forth with them for 30 minutes trying to bring the price down from what they wanted because most of our cash was back at the house. In the end we dropped the price, and paid it. So in short, they may have tried to scam you for $800 but that charge back can bring future problems if you decide to go on another boat to those islands and someone recognize you. If you swiped that card with Fanny Pack guy, he is going to be tight on that charge back.
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[QUOTE=Bobbo123;2743091]Thank you for the help! What I still get confused about is what "Registered" means. Does that mean they are officially added to my room? Or that they're visit is simply logged at the front desk for the short time visit. What I want: short time 1-2 hour costs, a different lady per night, but not having them get added to my reservation. And I am chill, no worries there.[/QUOTE]Registered means they are officially added to your room and can stay overnight. Guests are there for a few hours.
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2743526] Registered means they are officially added to your room and can stay overnight. Guests are there for a few hours.[/QUOTE]I know that you were referring to specific situation and a particular place but the whole guest word used to keep me confused. I think the terminology can be confusing becuase there are "registered guest" and then the guests of the guests. When I write to the owners to see if I can have girls over I always use the word "visitors" and ask are guests allowed to have overnight visitors.
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[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2743874]I know that you were referring to specific situation and a particular place but the whole guest word used to keep me confused. I think the terminology can be confusing becuase there are "registered guest" and then the guests of the guests. When I write to the owners to see if I can have girls over I always use the word "visitors" and ask are guests allowed to have overnight visitors.[/QUOTE]I agree, super confusing! Okay so with this definition, then the hotel in question seems unlucky to be friendly as they talk in registered guest terms. I give up LOL and I'll just book Ermita.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2740799]I would avoid Playa Hollywood all together but if you want the first hand experience of feeling like a piece of bread surrounded by seagulls, then have at it jajaja.[/QUOTE]Speaking of which. My boy put this in our group chat today. Spot on!
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2743933]Speaking of which. My boy put this in our group chat today. Spot on![/QUOTE]More like fish surrounded by pelicans. Entertaining to watch the large groups of gringos gets surrounded. That's what happens when you pretend to be a player....yiu get played l. Or fished...
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Zok
Has anyone been with a tall black woman going by the name Zok? I am looking for her information if anyone can share!!
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Ermita Cartagena, a Tribute Portfolio Hotel by Marriott
This may be covered by RTFF, but I went back 6 months and could not find it. I apologize but I just learned yesterday that I have no hotel room in Cartegena, and I am supposed to leave for there (for work) in 10 days.
Basically, I see that the Ermita is guest friendly, albeit a bit pricey (but this is covered by my work). I assume this is the Marriott chain Ermita. Correct?
Can someone tell me how GF this hotel actually is?
1. Do I have to register my guests?
2. Can I bring more than one chica to my room for the night?
3. Is there a fee for the girls?
Thanks! MG.
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Ermita been mentioned a few times
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2744519]This may be covered by RTFF, but I went back 6 months and could not find it. I apologize but I just learned yesterday that I have no hotel room in Cartegena, and I am supposed to leave for there (for work) in 10 days.
Basically, I see that the Ermita is guest friendly, albeit a bit pricey (but this is covered by my work). I assume this is the Marriott chain Ermita. Correct?
Can someone tell me how GF this hotel actually is?
1. Do I have to register my guests?
2. Can I bring more than one chica to my room for the night?
3. Is there a fee for the girls?
Thanks! MG.[/QUOTE]Its been mentioned a by a few users including myself that it is visitor friendly.
Sammon gave a report in May [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2697050&viewfull=1#post2697050[/URL] and they followed up in August with how the visitor process was for them [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2732743&viewfull=1#post2732743[/URL].
I guess you can PM them for any additional questions that was not covered in their posts linked above.
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A photo can help
[QUOTE=TubeDriver;2744516]Has anyone been with a tall black woman going by the name Zok? I am looking for her information if anyone can share!![/QUOTE]If you have a photo of the girl, I can ask my chicas who work in Space and Delirium if they know her. The name itself is one that I do not normally hear so she maybe using another name.
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2744168]More like fish surrounded by pelicans. Entertaining to watch the large groups of gringos gets surrounded. That's what happens when you pretend to be a player....yiu get played l. Or fished...[/QUOTE]This video gives new travelers a better visual idea of what happens. [URL]https://youtu.be/oRAa6XzytSs?t=141[/URL].
We can give new travelers the heads up what not to do because what will happen, but chances are they will do it anyway and be shocked of the outcome jajaja.
That video shows one of the reasons why I stopped traveling in large groups years ago and enjoy solo travel or group of 3 max because the bigger the group the more chances there will be 1 that will do something stupid messing it up for everyone else.
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[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2744519]This may be covered by RTFF, but I went back 6 months and could not find it. I apologize but I just learned yesterday that I have no hotel room in Cartegena, and I am supposed to leave for there (for work) in 10 days.
Basically, I see that the Ermita is guest friendly, albeit a bit pricey (but this is covered by my work). I assume this is the Marriott chain Ermita. Correct?
Can someone tell me how GF this hotel actually is?
1. Do I have to register my guests?
2. Can I bring more than one chica to my room for the night?
3. Is there a fee for the girls?
Thanks! MG.[/QUOTE]I stayed 4 nights at Ermita hotel couple in May and I have posted a report on that. To answer your specific questions.
1. No. When guests come they are asked to fill a form and sign. Do not know what it said because it was in Spanish. Even getting two girls in is no problem.
2. Answered above.
3. No fee.
Although it says Marriott, this is a small hotel. There is a beach across the hotel. Also I went and watched fishermen catch fish from the beach. They were catching big fish and selling. They were cleaning and cutting the fish and lots of people lining up to buy.
From there you see the wall. Short walk to the centro and the clock tower. I went for massage every day at centro. Can walk to the bars as well but I found girls on the street. Taxi is cheap also. There is a small store within 50 yards where you can buy water, drinks, food etc. They have small places which sell snacks along the beach street like arrepas. Delicious. There are some bars also which I did not visit.
From the airport if you are going to take taxi tell them Ermita hotel, Carrera. Not Marriott, in fact there is no Marriott sign outside.
Since I am a valued Marriott member they gave me a nice room on the ground floor. Breakfast for two is included. Adequate with lots of choices and tropical fruits. I took a taxi to many places to sightsee, restaurants. Just went to couple of clubs but did not like it.
If you need more info pm me.
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Great info
[QUOTE=Sammon;2744701]I stayed 4 nights at Ermita hotel couple in May and I have posted a report on that. To answer your specific questions.
1. No. When guests come they are asked to fill a form and sign. Do not know what it said because it was in Spanish. Even getting two girls in is no problem.
2. Answered above.
3. No fee.
Although it says Marriott, this is a small hotel. There is a beach across the hotel. Also I went and watched fishermen catch fish from the beach. They were catching big fish and selling. They were cleaning and cutting the fish and lots of people lining up to buy.
From there you see the wall. Short walk to the centro and the clock tower. I went for massage every day at centro. Can walk to the bars as well but I found girls on the street. Taxi is cheap also. There is a small store within 50 yards where you can buy water, drinks, food etc. They have small places which sell snacks along the beach street like arrepas..[/QUOTE]I will be heading to same hotel in 2 weeks, thanks for info!
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Thanks to Sammon and Nypher
My confusion was that Marriott owns the Ermita hotel, and I found it hard to wrap my head around the idea that the Marriott would be GF when so many other hotels were not. Now I understand.
Thanks to you both for having responded!
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Sadly, my company got me a room at this hotel. Is there any chance someone knows if it is GF? I will probably book the Ermita and pay out of pocket unless someone knows.
Eurostars is a big chain, and I was unable to email them directly (rather, I sent a message to a main reservation desk). Thanks.
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[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2745153]Sadly, my company got me a room at this hotel. Is there any chance someone knows if it is GF? I will probably book the Ermita and pay out of pocket unless someone knows.
Eurostars is a big chain, and I was unable to email them directly (rather, I sent a message to a main reservation desk). Thanks.[/QUOTE]THe hotel I am referring to is called: Eurostars Marqués de Villalta. I am not certain how this post got cropped, but I would appreciate advice.
My company's travel office tells me that the Ermita is located in an area that is too dangerous to walk at night. I guess the route is populated by prostitutes and other unsavory people! Does anyone agree that it is too dangerous to walk from the Ermita to the Clock Tower? (of course, I could always travel by taxi!
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2744554]This video gives new travelers a better visual idea of what happens. [URL]https://youtu.be/oRAa6XzytSs?t=141[/URL].
We can give new travelers the heads up what not to do because what will happen, but chances are they will do it anyway and be shocked of the outcome jajaja.
That video shows one of the reasons why I stopped traveling in large groups years ago and enjoy solo travel or group of 3 max because the bigger the group the more chances there will be 1 that will do something stupid messing it up for everyone else.[/QUOTE]Great video. . what a circus. He missed the part where the beach guys fight over who is going to rent them chairs. I will try to be friendly and talk to people. I really feel sorry for the guys.
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Tell your company you take full responsibility of your own safety hahaha
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2745249]THe hotel I am referring to is called: Eurostars Marqus de Villalta. I am not certain how this post got cropped, but I would appreciate advice.
My company's travel office tells me that the Ermita is located in an area that is too dangerous to walk at night. I guess the route is populated by prostitutes and other unsavory people! Does anyone agree that it is too dangerous to walk from the Ermita to the Clock Tower? (of course, I could always travel by taxi![/QUOTE]If this is the hotel located 1 block north of Space and Dolce you will have way more prostitutes and unsavory people outside along your route than Ermita. What I can suggest is to tell you company you will take responsibility for your own safety with a hotel of your choice, put that shit in writing if you have to, because if they put you steps away from the 3 main clubs and you see what goes by there every night for 2 weeks and cannot bring any of them in to enjoy yourself it will be maddening getting short time hotels everytime.
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Youtube Video Clock Tower
Hi I saw a YouTube Vid some days ago and I think I 've seen the link on ISG, it was on Clock Tower and the YouTube guy was filming a window in Clock Tower where a girl was seeing fucking! I the like to see it again bu I've lost the link! Anyone knows this vid? I think it was maybe from a Vloger from Holland! The rest of the video was showing nightlife in Carthagena! Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2745452]Whole new crew of suckers on the flight.from Miami. . can spot them in a minute.
.Should hand out cards for Plays Hollywood to the big shots......so the pelicans can swarm them.[/QUOTE]They were out in full force from fort Lauderdale too.
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2745452]Whole new crew of suckers on the flight.from Miami. . can spot them in a minute.
.Should hand out cards for Plays Hollywood to the big shots......so the pelicans can swarm them.[/QUOTE]The ones in JFK kills me every time. Straight loud mouths with "all eyes on me" attention seeking syndrome. I'm starting to think allot of them have hearing problems because the whole terminal can hear their conversations and they won't shut up.
It's quite entertaining to watch but get annoying when I have to constantly tell locals that I am not with them.
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[QUOTE=Jonathan2017;2745431]Hi I saw a YouTube Vid some days ago and I think I 've seen the link on ISG, it was on Clock Tower and the YouTube guy was filming a window in Clock Tower where a girl was seeing fucking! I the like to see it again bu I've lost the link! Anyone knows this vid? I think it was maybe from a Vloger from Holland! The rest of the video was showing nightlife in Carthagena! Thanks.[/QUOTE]I posted the link. It was in twitter and the instagram page. Search back.
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Guys,
Why'all act really high and mighty, but folks in this thread are no better than the new influx of tourists. We see you with your rent-a-chicas at night in Centro or Bocagrande. You're paying huge prices just like them because you don't speak Spanish. In fact, you all are probably worse because you're there often enough to know better.
Can we please stop recording other tourists? It's a ridiculous invasion of privacy. No one here would like it if someone set up shop outside of Space or LDV and caught you all bringing those slatterns you love out. Let's have some common decency.
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You Tube Video
Thank you Nypher, but it's not that; it was a long you tube video from a traveler; you can't recognize anybody; its more about light and shadows, on the typical windows of clock tower.
Its on youtube, a vloger from Holland I think.
I agree with Perkin about everything.
Soy de Europa y hablo espagnol chico.
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[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2745629]Guys,
Why'all act really high and mighty, but folks in this thread are no better than the new influx of tourists. We see you with your rent-a-chicas at night in Centro or Bocagrande. You're paying huge prices just like them because you don't speak Spanish. In fact, you all are probably worse because you're there often enough to know better.
Can we please stop recording other tourists? It's a ridiculous invasion of privacy. No one here would like it if someone set up shop outside of Space or LDV and caught you all bringing those slatterns you love out. Let's have some common decency.[/QUOTE]Most of the ones who set up shop and record the girls are the same loud mouths that always want attention. It's why I avoid walking by Delirium where they like to stand across the street and record, through the clocktower they like to stand by the hotel and record, or Playa Hollywood by Kiosk#4 where they like to live stream. Many of them already had their YouTube channels deleted so now they are on their second or third channels under the disguise of calling it a travel channel but always mention the "extra footage" they cut out is behind a paywall on Patreon. Certain channels like Kurt Caz, Ace Live, or Life with David focus more on what foreigners can do in the country besides mongering and those are the channels I watch to see what I can do next time I visit.
The video below is a perfect example of what not to do when in Latin America.
[URL]https://worldstarhiphop.com/mobile/web/video-c.php?v=wshh453gDGXJNn6awGnD#comments-arena-[/URL]
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[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2745249]THe hotel I am referring to is called: Eurostars Marqus de Villalta. I am not certain how this post got cropped, but I would appreciate advice.
My company's travel office tells me that the Ermita is located in an area that is too dangerous to walk at night. I guess the route is populated by prostitutes and other unsavory people! Does anyone agree that it is too dangerous to walk from the Ermita to the Clock Tower? (of course, I could always travel by taxi![/QUOTE]They have their phone number on their website. I would try to call and ask, if you do not speak spanish then maybe someone there speaks English. + 57 605 6788523 Ask them straight up "can I bring women back from the bars and have them spend the night with me?"
As for the Ermita being in a dangerous are, I don't think so unless there is more than one or something. It is right in the middle of the tourist zone across from the beach in Bocagrande. I have never heard of anything bad happening to anyone there.
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2 Weeks in Bocagrande
Stayed at an AirBnB on Calle 9. No problem bringing back girls and no extra fee. Security at the entrance just checked ids.
Used Milleroticos for outcalls thru WhatsApp. 150 k to 200 k for 1 hour. Found one that had an incall on Carrera 3 and Calle 9 with 5 girls, all in their 20's. 5 minute walk for me. Most were already MILLFs. 200 k for 1 hour. Some asked for an extra 50 k for the room. Bonus, they were open 24/7.
Also went to Playa Hollywood. 200 k to 400 k for 1 hour. Most girls also asked for taxi fare afterwards. Not sure what happened but I didn't get stuck with waiters asking for a commission for the girls. Maybe I got lucky. Usually between 10 to 20 girls during the day. Most also worked the clubs and clock at night. But seeing them in bikinis during the day helped sort the mom bods from the non mom bods. Also a great way to enjoy the afternoon. Despite the reports, most of the vendors didn't harass as much as prior trips. They still came by but most moved on within a minute. Most of the girls also gave their WhatsApp for repeats.
Clock tower and clubs at night. 150 k to 450 k for 1 hour plus taxi. DV usually had the most and best looking girls. Weekdays were best for having room to walk around and talk. Lots of smaller bars and clubs also had girls 70, Marine, the ones around Delirium. The girls spilled over due to the lack of room at Space and DV. Some diamonds in the rough also at the clock tower and outside the clubs. Lots of police around at night so it seemed safer than my last trip. Police cars and vans parked at the clock tower each night. Usually at least 2 cops on the corner near each club. 30 to 100 girls each night. A lot of the same girls rotating between the clock and various clubs. Met a beautiful 20 yo mixed girl at the beach with natural see's. Then saw her outside again at DV at night in a short, tight pink dress. Took her twice in the same day LOL. Also met a skinny 20 yo from Cali with natural be's outside DV. Easily one of the hottest girls in Cartagena, but she seemed new because she asked for 200 k for 1 hour while similar girls were asking for at least 300 k+.
Because of the exchange rate, it was cheaper than my last visit. Davienda ATM by the clock tower next to the pizza place and donde Fidel was where I went to get cash. No fee and up to 2 M per withdrawal.
A little cloudy, some rain and flooding, but it was a great 2 weeks.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2743128]How does this happen to folks? Do you just go about all willy nilly not asking how much things cost before agreeing to buy it? Did you tell the boat drivers to get whatever they wanted and you would pay for it? 800 fucking dollars? Man they would have had to call in the SWAT team on me.[/QUOTE]Boat guys didn't even ask- they ordered while we were in the water. Smh.
Technically neither did the 4 chicas, they didn't ask (although they ordered in front of us, and we didn't really mind, so can't blame them).
And between the 4 of us guys all vegetarian, so no meals, only got 2 green mangoes and 4-5 drinks.
But yea, boat guys were DEF in on it. Anywyas just know these guys are all scum man. They literally handed us a bill for fking 3. 1 mill. Then when we went to pay with credit card the Ahole himself on his tablet clicked 15% for gratuity- we told them the gratuity was already added in the original bill which clearly said "propina"- then he says he has to charge 15% for credit card fee. Legit scum people man. Normally I wouldn't do this, but because they were scum, literally threw the amex into the water 2 min after leaving the island, easily disputed.
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[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2743018]Just got back couple days ago from a 5 day trip.
Stayed in Posidon building in Laguito as usual- no problems with visitors at all or time restrictions.
Chica pricing relatively same, but does fluctuate depending the girl- there's no set system on pricing. We did our usual pickups from clock tower / LDV / space / delirium- between 500,000-800,000 pesos for 4-5 hours till 4 am, and two leches. Same routine all 5 nights.
All the clubs were shut down Saturday night between like 10 pm and midnight. Something about police / robberies, etc. Came back at midnight to pick up chicas, but maybe only 20-25% chicas came out. Was slim pickings.
One learning lesson from the trip- got basically robbed on the boat day trip. Went to playa blanca first which was cool, they actually had police there who came over to make sure we weren't being harassed. Then went to chalon; got ripped off. Boat drivers and chicas orders drinks and food, they bring the bill out as we were leaving at the cost of 3,500,000 for 8 people- and non of my boys even ordered food. Just one drink each. Smh. Also the boat guys were def in on this, as they went to shore for 5 min as were leaving and hopped back on the boat. However, we will have the last laugh as they accepted my credit card which will now be easily disputed. They will lose out on the full bill Plus the cut they gave to the boat guys jajajajaj.[/QUOTE]Agreed, the thought has crossed our mind. Hopefully they don't realize it was us- these people seem kind of dumb and are hopefully probably just part time laborers working for a much bigger company who won't even notice the charge back for a couple weeks until it trickles down to the guy with the tablet. We usually go only once a year, will use a different boat company, and skip chalon. Hopefully all those things added together saves us from future trouble. Thanks for input and advice!
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Repost- sorry meant to reply to Nypher
[QUOTE=Nypher;2743131]Remember my boat report [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=2596444&viewfull=1#post2596444[/URL] Our bill was itemized so it was easy to see what was what.
Your bill looks to be about $800, from what my chicas told me recently, the price of food on the islands went up a lot but not no $800 bill allot. I don't know how many girls you had but if they ordered food and the boat crew ordered as well (usually a crew of 2 minimum) then you and your boys had dinks (did you and your boys pay attention to those drink prices?) then add the 20% surcharge that 3,500,000 COP would require an itemized breakdown before I pay anything, F that bringing me a single large ass number on a napkin BS! I normally only work with Helmer if he's working the island that day and tip him accordingly.
The "Azul something" you are referring to is probably the Blue Apple. My main chica wanted me to take her there for a few nights but not with those American prices for those rooms.[/QUOTE]Agreed, the thought has crossed our mind. Hopefully they don't realize it was us- these people seem kind of dumb and are hopefully probably just part time laborers working for a much bigger company who won't even notice the charge back for a couple weeks until it trickles down to the guy with the tablet. We usually go only once a year, , will skip boat day next year, and will use a different boat company, and skip Chalon altogether. Hopefully all those things added together and going after 2 years saves us from future trouble. Thanks for input and advice!
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[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2746219]Agreed, the thought has crossed our mind. Hopefully they don't realize it was us- these people seem kind of dumb and are hopefully probably just part time laborers working for a much bigger company who won't even notice the charge back for a couple weeks until it trickles down to the guy with the tablet. We usually go only once a year, will use a different boat company, and skip chalon. Hopefully all those things added together saves us from future trouble. Thanks for input and advice![/QUOTE]Please let us know if your chargeback goes through.
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[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2746269]Agreed, the thought has crossed our mind. Hopefully they don't realize it was us- these people seem kind of dumb and are hopefully probably just part time laborers working for a much bigger company who won't even notice the charge back for a couple weeks until it trickles down to the guy with the tablet. We usually go only once a year, , will skip boat day next year, and will use a different boat company, and skip Chalon altogether. Hopefully all those things added together and going after 2 years saves us from future trouble. Thanks for input and advice![/QUOTE]One of the girls I met mentioned taking a private boat to the islands and asked me if I am interested. She said she has a friend who has a boat but need to pay for his food and drinks during the time, so cannot provide a exact amount. I immediately realized this is a scam. I told her there are regular boats who transport people to islands to which she said she does not want to do that.
Just watch out for all these scams. I had no interest in going to islands. I have done these in Bahamas and other places with no scams.
If you are loose with the money certainly everyone will scam you. I found Cartagena is high on the list for girl and club bill scams. Unless you have a regular local GF who will watch out for you, watch your wallet.
Colombians in other countries like Costa Rica and Panama before were extremely GFE and scam free.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;2746315]One of the girls I met mentioned taking a private boat to the islands and asked me if I am interested. She said she has a friend who has a boat but need to pay for his food and drinks during the time, so cannot provide a exact amount. I immediately realized this is a scam.[/QUOTE]I would have brought that mf a pizza and a 2 liter.
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[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2746293]Please let us know if your chargeback goes through.[/QUOTE]Sure will do- they said give them 30 days.
I would be mind blown if it doesn't. I threw the card in the water like 5 minutes after we left the island out of frustration from getting scammed. If it doesn't work for this, I don't know what it can ever work for hahah. Amex lady on the phone definitely shared her sympathy for me hahah.
P.S.- about 5 years ago, my friend paid with his CC at pley club for a takeout chica. They charged 900,000 pesos for 6 hours, 3 leches was the agreement with the chica's boss (even though the guy actually said number of leches doesn't matter, he was more concerned she'the be back in 6 hours) After the first leche she just straight up refused for round 2, saying the money was too little, although my boy paid the club directly which she worked for. He got pissed, sent her home, charged back after couple weeks and was refunded. He also had an Amex, who are basically the gold standard for consumer protection of fraud.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;2746315]One of the girls I met mentioned taking a private boat to the islands and asked me if I am interested. She said she has a friend who has a boat but need to pay for his food and drinks during the time, so cannot provide a exact amount. I immediately realized this is a scam. I told her there are regular boats who transport people to islands to which she said she does not want to do that.
Just watch out for all these scams. I had no interest in going to islands.
If you are loose with the money certainly everyone will scam you. I found Cartagena is high on the list for girl and club bill scams. Unless you have a regular local GF who will watch out for you, watch your wallet.
[/QUOTE]Beware. They get you on the island and serve you food, fish and drinks, they do not have any prices on the menu or maybe no menu at all. Then they will try to charge you many times more than reasonable, and will not return you from the island until you pay. Typical Cartagena scam. And the Colombian women support the Colombian men in their scam. You will pay big time to get off the island!
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[QUOTE=Jonathan2017;2745750]Thank you Nypher, but it's not that; it was a long you tube video from a traveler; you can't recognize anybody; its more about light and shadows, on the typical windows of clock tower.
Its on youtube, a vloger from Holland I think.
I agree with Perkin about everything.
Soy de Europa y hablo espagnol chico.[/QUOTE]There have been so much of this stuff going on it seems like every month is a new one.
The only other ones I can recall from this year was the one by the wall and the one in the horse carriage.
[URL]https://twitter.com/CarlosFlorezDi3/status/1521609996882132992[/URL]
Horse carriage.
[URL]https://twitter.com/ChismesCol/status/1533657966662098946[/URL]
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[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2746342]Sure will do- they said give them 30 days.
I would be mind blown if it doesn't. I threw the card in the water like 5 minutes after we left the island out of frustration from getting scammed. If it doesn't work for this, I don't know what it can ever work for hahah. Amex lady on the phone definitely shared her sympathy for me hahah.
P.S.- about 5 years ago, my friend paid with his CC at pley club for a takeout chica. They charged 900,000 pesos for 6 hours, 3 leches was the agreement with the chica's boss (even though the guy actually said number of leches doesn't matter, he was more concerned she'the be back in 6 hours) After the first leche she just straight up refused for round 2, saying the money was too little, although my boy paid the club directly which she worked for. He got pissed, sent her home, charged back after couple weeks and was refunded. He also had an Amex, who are basically the gold standard for consumer protection of fraud.[/QUOTE]What did he tell the company? Chica promised him 3 leches but gave him only 1?
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How was El Poseidon?
[QUOTE=AcesOnTheRiver;2746269]Agreed, the thought has crossed our mind. Hopefully they don't realize it was us- these people seem kind of dumb and are hopefully probably just part time laborers working for a much bigger company who won't even notice the charge back for a couple weeks until it trickles down to the guy with the tablet. We usually go only once a year, , will skip boat day next year, and will use a different boat company, and skip Chalon altogether. Hopefully all those things added together and going after 2 years saves us from future trouble. Thanks for input and advice![/QUOTE]I forgot to ask how what El Poseidon?
Is there still a roach problem?
Elevators still messed up?
I was there in March and was not a good stay as me usual, I was on the 16th floor and only 1 elevator worked, 1 was under renovation and the other was out of service. There was always a line no matter what time we came in. Then the roach problem because there was construction happening all day.
Roaches were coming out the electrical sockets and always in the bathroom. My chicas loved the view of the lake so we mostly just stayed on the balcony and drank and played games most of the night and had good sunsets.
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Avoid Scams
It's not just us Americans and Euros that are getting scammed. It's any foreigner. The private boat trips are all tourist traps. If you want to take a chica to a beach, do what Colombians do. They pay for a day trips (pasadías) to Punta Arenas, Baru, or Islas del Rosario. They include round trip boat rides from Muelle de Bodeguita. Some are high end, but most are very affordable and include lunch. I've done this a few times and the chicas get really impressed.
The best way is an overnight or a few days at an all inclusive resort in Baru. It's much nicer. The beaches don't have any touts or massage ladies, and it's usually only other couples. The atmosphere is way better. It's more expensive (though not really if you pay in COP).
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2746837]What did he tell the company? Chica promised him 3 leches but gave him only 1?[/QUOTE]LOL, naa man. Simply that the credit card was stolen, which is what I said as well. No need to FK around with the details and headache of explaining all this nonsense.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2746983]I forgot to ask how what El Poseidon?
Is there still a roach problem?
Elevators still messed up?
I was there in March and was not a good stay as me usual, I was on the 16th floor and only 1 elevator worked, 1 was under renovation and the other was out of service. There was always a line no matter what time we came in. Then the roach problem because there was construction happening all day.
Roaches were coming out the electrical sockets and always in the bathroom. My chicas loved the view of the lake so we mostly just stayed on the balcony and drank and played games most of the night and had good sunsets.[/QUOTE]Yup for Poseidon- elevators still a huge problem, even though two of the 3 were working this time. But that's the only problem we ever have there and just suck it up. We stay on the 21st top floor 5 br penthouse with panoramic balcony- it's so sick. No roach issues and never ever had visitor issues in 5 years, always signing in 4-5 different chicas each and every night.
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[QUOTE=PerkinWarbeck;2747340] a day trips (pasadas) to Punta Arenas, Baru, or Islas del Rosario. They include round trip boat rides from Muelle de Bodeguita. Some are high end, but most are very affordable and include lunch. I've done this a few times and the chicas get really impressed.[/QUOTE]Touts know exactly what time the day boat trips arrive and touts and vendors are there in flocks to annoy, sell you stuff you do not want or need, because the "are working" and "its not your country" and disturb you.
Been there done that, will never do that again!
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2745537]The ones in JFK kills me every time. Straight loud mouths with "all eyes on me" attention seeking syndrome. I'm starting to think allot of them have hearing problems because the whole terminal can hear their conversations and they won't shut up.
It's quite entertaining to watch but get annoying when I have to constantly tell locals that I am not with them.[/QUOTE]Yes! The loud dumb asses telling everyone in the airport what they going to do. I just sit back and watch the people around them just shaking their heads.
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Love Motel near Space
Hey, what and where are some of the love motels near Space? I know the one on the same side as Space, Hotel Viajo (or something like that) and I think someone mentioned that it's 40 K for one hour. Any others nearby that anyone knows of?
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Short term accommodations
What's a good short term hotel close to the clock tower. My hotel is being a pain in the butt about guests. I can only have 1 register guest. Meaning I can't bring different girls in daily. I found 1 or 2 short term ones but they were all charging 200 K for an hour.
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I went there and the guy wanted 200 Mil.
[QUOTE=HumpyDumpty11;2748223]Hey, what and where are some of the love motels near Space? I know the one on the same side as Space, Hotel Viajo (or something like that) and I think someone mentioned that it's 40 K for one hour. Any others nearby that anyone knows of?[/QUOTE]
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Strip clubs back running in Cartagena
I love the vibe of a strip club where you take girls to the back. Any recent info on pley club or el paraiso del marino. Any advice would be great.
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Del Marina is VIP type club about 20 minutes from Cartagena.
When you enter you will patted down by security then proceed to a small indoor pool bar area where appx 15 girls will come over and introduce themselves to you.
They are all available but extracurricular activities are conducted on the premises in the upstairs bedrooms. These girls are not independent and work for Del Marino.
Most of the girls are Venezuelan and live in small rooms upstairs -- Everything is way overpriced and all employees are expecting tips. IMHO its nothing great.
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411: independent or facebook chica
On my way to cartegena. I am looking for an independent or facebook chica to wife-up for a week. Someone who wants a bunch of money in return for GFE companionship. If you know of a girl looking for this, please pm me contact info. I would especially be interested in a facebook chica.
I speak spanish.
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[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2751466]On my way to cartegena. I am looking for an independent or facebook chica to wife-up for a week. Someone who wants a bunch of money in return for GFE companionship. If you know of a girl looking for this, please pm me contact info. I would especially be interested in a facebook chica.
I speak spanish.[/QUOTE]I'm in Cartagena now with my chicas and one of them is interested. I'll send you her Instagram for you to see pictures if you want to proceed to making her an offer.
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Local guide
I think a smart local guide can make our life easier. I spent a few days with Luchi, I saw her abilities and I wish I had met her before. Just to clarify, I'm not here to sell anything and I don't need or expect any benefit from her. I'll give you her WhatsApp (Luchi +57 3043134545) because she can provide an honest and helpful service. She authorized me to share it.
She is 23 years old, 5'10 ", lives in Cartagena, knows what tourists / mongers are looking for (she was co-owner of a restaurant and sometime works as a model) and can help you have fun without wasting time and money. Do you want to take a few hours tour to see the best clubs and interesting places avoiding tourist traps? Need tips on choosing an apartment, to see the islands, to smoke something good, or to solve a problem? Just send her a message and be direct. Walking with this girl by my side I had to accept that everyone turns their heads to look at her ass, but it's fun! She speaks Spanish, Italian and some English.
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Cartagena. Newbie advice
I spent 8 days in Cartagena before flying to Dominican Republic back in September.
Upon arrival to Centro I noticed packs of the younger hip / hop crowd from the States drawing alot of attention to themselves and making alot of mistakes.
I've been mongering for 20 years throughout the Caribbean and have some experience which I can share if interested.
1) Respect the Colombian culture. Cognac, oxtails and the Lakers should be left home in the USA.
2) Learn some Spanish. Hola and cuanto don't cut it here as almost no-one speaks English.
3) Monger independently or with 1 wingman not in packs.
4) Blend in as much as possible and dress simply with tee / polo shirt, jeans and sneakers. The black hats, black shirts, black shorts, black socks and flip flops are a mistake IMHO.
3) Negotiate and execute the terms accordingly and remember the the clock starts ticking once she arrives. If you bought her dinner or drinks that's not part of the agreed upon price. Most of these.
These girls can be very slick so watch them. The last thing you want is a confrontation over money unfortunately everyone on this board has experienced this and it requires quick thinking.
4) Pay the girls inside the apartment not in the hallway, lobby or especially not in front of the building. Bring them in quietly and get them out quietly.
5) don't hang out in front of the Clubs taking pictures of yourself with 6 girls hanging on you for your Facebook page nobody cares.
6) The Colombian policeman standing on the corner near the Club is watching you closely and looking to cash in on anyone smoking cannabis, fighting, urinating in public ect.
7) Collecting 200 telephone numbers for Whats app is useless. Get 15 numbers of girls who provide great service and with whom you are comfortable with and continue to build the book over time.
8) don't hang out with the girls using Cocaine regardless of how much fun they are -- watch the nose and the rolling jaw side effects.
Enjoy your vacation.
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[QUOTE=Adinga;2751619]I spent 8 days in Cartagena before flying to Dominican Republic back in September.
Upon arrival to Centro I noticed packs of the younger hip / hop crowd from the States drawing alot of attention to themselves and making alot of mistakes.
I've been mongering for 20 years throughout the Caribbean and have some experience which I can share if interested.
1) Respect the Colombian culture. Cognac, oxtails and the Lakers should be left home in the USA.
2) Learn some Spanish. Hola and cuanto don't cut it here as almost no-one speaks English.
3) Monger independently or with 1 wingman not in packs.
4) Blend in as much as possible and dress simply with tee / polo shirt, jeans and sneakers. The black hats, black shirts, black shorts, black socks and flip flops are a mistake IMHO.
3) Negotiate and execute the terms accordingly and remember the the clock starts ticking once she arrives. If you bought her dinner or drinks that's not part of the agreed upon price. Most of these.
These girls can be very slick so watch them. The last thing you want is a confrontation over money unfortunately everyone on this board has experienced this and it requires quick thinking.
4) Pay the girls inside the apartment not in the hallway, lobby or especially not in front of the building. Bring them in quietly and get them out quietly.
5) don't hang out in front of the Clubs taking pictures of yourself with 6 girls hanging on you for your Facebook page nobody cares.
6) The Colombian policeman standing on the corner near the Club is watching you closely and looking to cash in on anyone smoking cannabis, fighting, urinating in public ect.
7) Collecting 200 telephone numbers for Whats app is useless. Get 15 numbers of girls who provide great service and with whom you are comfortable with and continue to build the book over time.
8) don't hang out with the girls using Cocaine regardless of how much fun they are -- watch the nose and the rolling jaw side effects.
Enjoy your vacation.[/QUOTE]You got good points but they are too busy trying to get attention to care.
I had a trio of brothers who decide to have the loudest aggressive conversation ever, while eating breakfast. It was so bad the people who looked like they were from Germany started getting nervous turning and looking at my table with a face of fear like a fight is going to break out the only thing I could say was "that's how they are in the hood, it's normal" one of them decided to have a full phone conversation on speakerphone, everyone knew his whole convo cause he there yelling into the phone.
Thursday at Dolce I was walking by and a whole team of brothers 12 came walking out each pulling out girls, then they stood infront of the club yelling at each other then started yelling at cabs. It was funny to watch at first, then about 10 who looked like they from the Middle East came out and did the same shit. That hip hop "I need attention" mentally is sad.
My chica is starting to understand why I avoid Centro Thursday-Saturday.
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Nypher I agree 100 % -- its ALL about the attention and lack of respect for the country culture.
The young kids who panhandle in the street and speak no english now address you as bro. WTF.
This is the new mentality in Sosua which has been completely destroyed. Just walk into Rumbas on the strip.
The Colombians won't sell out and don't want the urban vibe BS. The Dominicans sold out.
If reports of violence in Centro start popping up the Colombians will start enforcing new rules.
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Ermita charged me 380 k to bring a visitor
Day two at Ermita. Sat and Sun I explored downtown, DV, Delirium, and Watch tower. Talent that was most my style (young spinners) were walking around near the clock tower. Day one at Ermita was smooth bringing back a cutie, no one at the front desk and just breezed through.
But. I just brought back a Venezuelan chica on day two and the guy at the front copied her docs and had her sign a paper, AND then charged me 380.000. WTF that cost way more than the chica! Anybody have any ideas what's going on here and how to get out of this? There's no way I can pay that for each visitor I bring back. This forum says clearly it's allowed and so does the questions on booking. Any ideas on what to do?
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[QUOTE=Adinga;2751881]Nypher I agree 100 % -- its ALL about the attention and lack of respect for the country culture.
The young kids who panhandle in the street and speak no english now address you as bro. WTF.
This is the new mentality in Sosua which has been completely destroyed. Just walk into Rumbas on the strip.
The Colombians won't sell out and don't want the urban vibe BS. The Dominicans sold out.
If reports of violence in Centro start popping up the Colombians will start enforcing new rules.[/QUOTE]They are bringing the bullshit nonsense and making girls more hardened about money and want people to pay up front so they won't be cheated.
Example:
Last night I'm with my chica in the apartment chilling and drinking, she's on her phone and I can tell something's wrong because she's typing super fast and slamming the phone when she sends the message. Then she runs in my room and comes back with $100 bill and ask me for change. I told her I don't have any to change it but whatever she needs we can do it in the morning. She says she needs it now, she said she only needs 100 mil. Ok gave it to her and she runs out the house gives the money to someone in a cab then runs back in. So now I'm like WTF!? Where my money go? She says her friend was out with an americano at a restaurant, he said he's going to the bathroom and never came back and she's been waiting for over an hour for him to return. SMH. Her friend got stuck with the bill that was almost 500 K COP.
Then she starts cursing up a storm telling me the bullshit that's been happening lately especially in Delirium and VOSP when these guys are buying lots of bottles and hookah throwing singles in the air but when the time comes to pay the girl, all of a sudden they don't have any money SMH.
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[QUOTE=Adinga;2751619]4) Pay the girls inside the apartment not in the hallway, lobby or especially not in front of the building. Bring them in quietly and get them out quietly.[/QUOTE]Not at all. You pay them outside in case they start some bullshit. They can not break shit up in your place or steal your things. You can just walk away whether it be back into your place or somewhere else.
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[QUOTE=Bobbo123;2752000]Day two at Ermita. Sat and Sun I explored downtown, DV, Delirium, and Watch tower. Talent that was most my style (young spinners) were walking around near the clock tower. Day one at Ermita was smooth bringing back a cutie, no one at the front desk and just breezed through.
But. I just brought back a Venezuelan chica on day two and the guy at the front copied her docs and had her sign a paper, AND then charged me 380.000. WTF that cost way more than the chica! Anybody have any ideas what's going on here and how to get out of this? There's no way I can pay that for each visitor I bring back. This forum says clearly it's allowed and so does the questions on booking. Any ideas on what to do?[/QUOTE]Looks like they got you.
I would recheck the listing where they have it in writing to double check they didn't change anything about visitors.
Did you book for maximum room occupancy?
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[QUOTE=Adinga;2751881]Nypher I agree 100 % -- its ALL about the attention and lack of respect for the country culture.[/QUOTE]Only thing is that these people are not traveling for cultural purposes. They are traveling to party and fuck hookers. How much culture do you think they would even learn if they wanted to by going between Hollywood Beach and those hooker clubs? Know your audience. That audience is not interested in what you are advising. They are only interested in "Where them hoes at?
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2752213]Looks like they got you.
I would recheck the listing where they have it in writing to double check they didn't change anything about visitors.
Did you book for maximum room occupancy?[/QUOTE]Yes they totally got me sadly. I argued for a long time but apparently it's in the contract I signed at checkin. Totally messes up my week, guess I'm stuck asking chicas where the nearest love motel is.
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We are all there for a good time. Lets give it a little time and see what develops.
The Colombians don't want that nighttime circus exposed- this is what started happening in Sosua about 8 years ago now the town is destroyed.
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We are all there for a good time. Lets give it a little time and see what develops.
The Colombians don't want that nighttime circus exposed- this is what started happening in Sosua about 8 years ago now the town is destroyed.
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Bad
[QUOTE=Nypher;2752213]Looks like they got you.
I would recheck the listing where they have it in writing to double check they didn't change anything about visitors.
Did you book for maximum room occupancy?[/QUOTE]That sucks. Sadly that is the case with most of the hotels and also many of the AIR BnB especially in the old city. I will be staying at the Santa Clara / Sofitel in a few weeks and that place is def no visitors with registered guests only policy. However, I have a free time share exchange so willing to accept that situation. But it's only for the first week of my stay and the second week I am considering a stay out by the airport where there are several hotels and short term apartments, restaurants and bars. It's a bit further from El Centro action but perhaps there is P4 P activity out there so will give it a go and report back if it's a good area to stay.
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Follow questions
[QUOTE=Adinga;2750611]Del Marina is VIP type club about 20 minutes from Cartagena.
When you enter you will patted down by security then proceed to a small indoor pool bar area where appx 15 girls will come over and introduce themselves to you.
They are all available but extracurricular activities are conducted on the premises in the upstairs bedrooms. These girls are not independent and work for Del Marino.
Most of the girls are Venezuelan and live in small rooms upstairs -- Everything is way overpriced and all employees are expecting tips. IMHO its nothing great.[/QUOTE]A few questions for you or anyone honestly. When you say over priced there, what are we talking about on average? Also how does it compare to Pley? Same price ranges, more or less? How do you feel regarding safety in the area these are in? Easy to get a taxi outside of them? I know my pricing is going to end up higher as I am a gringo and I am still trying to learn Spanish but just trying to get an idea what to bring with me each night for a session. Lastly not necessarily a mongering question, does anyone recommend anything fun for Halloween in the city?
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[QUOTE=Arthur62;2751541]I think a smart local guide can make our life easier. I spent a few days with Luchi, I saw her abilities and I wish I had met her before. Just to clarify, I'm not here to sell anything and I don't need or expect any benefit from her. I'll give you her WhatsApp (Luchi +57 3043134545) because she can provide an honest and helpful service. She authorized me to share it.
She is 23 years old, 5'10 ", lives in Cartagena, knows what tourists / mongers are looking for (she was co-owner of a restaurant and sometime works as a model) and can help you have fun without wasting time and money. Do you want to take a few hours tour to see the best clubs and interesting places avoiding tourist traps? Need tips on choosing an apartment, to see the islands, to smoke something good, or to solve a problem? Just send her a message and be direct. Walking with this girl by my side I had to accept that everyone turns their heads to look at her ass, but it's fun! She speaks Spanish, Italian and some English.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for the information. Much appreciated. I always like to find someone local to chill and roam around and get some hook up from them in exchange of money.
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411
First, a shout out to fellow members who shared the names and contacts of their chicas in response to my last query. I have done so for a few dozen times over the last 15 years (always by PM), and I think that this is a very valuable aspect of this site.
My contacts are mostly in the Dom republic and Northern Brazil ((Manaus and Porto Velho). Anyone going there should feel free to contact me by pm anytime.
Here is my question: My wingman likes to smoke pot (I hate marijuana). How can he purchase weed in Cartagena? As anything up to 20 g is supposedly not a crime, he only worries about finding the drug. If anyone has a suggestion to help him, please let me know. A PM is OK. He is a wealthy mongerer so a chica (or chico) who only does high end dealing is OK.
Many thanks! MG.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2752217]………..They are only interested in "Where them hoes at?[/QUOTE]LOLOLOL!
Thank you for this good laugh. That one sentence took my legs out, too funny because that's exactly how they are in the terminal waiting to board and all the way until the get in the taxi.
On a side note, best of luck to anyone currently in Getsemeni. After that crazy ass rain storm yesterday last night we lost power for an hour, then this morning around 4 am we lost power again for 12 hours couldn't even shower because the water was so cold. We went up to the roof and saw everyone else had power except for Getsemeni and was like F that, and moved to a new neighborhood. But damn that rain yesterday was insane.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2752187]They are bringing the bullshit nonsense and making girls more hardened about money and want people to pay up front so they won't be cheated.
Then she starts cursing up a storm telling me the bullshit that's been happening lately especially in Delirium and VOSP when these guys are buying lots of bottles and hookah throwing singles in the air but when the time comes to pay the girl, all of a sudden they don't have any money SMH.[/QUOTE]I remember when this started happening in Sosua. Whether it was a language issue or not, I don't know, but when you're sitting at a table with attractive women and a bottle arrives I would assume that it is on you (if you don't send it back). I remember cops waiting 3 days for a group of guys to show back up on the strip because they hadn't paid a large bill.