Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay; 1445340]`I need some advice. I believe I have fallen in love with a prostitute from Medellin. I wrote my report a month ago. In that report I stated how I longed to see this girl again, however in the time that has lapsed since then till now she has become the sine qua non of my existence. This girl is all I think about all day. Sure I get things done, but I do them while thinking of her. There is no longer me and my thoughts now it is me and my thoughts plus the thought of her. One user of the forum wrote that Costa Rica and the DR were the minor leagues while Medellin was the big leagues. Maybe I should have started with triple A first. I think that because I am in the US the dilemma is exacerbated; this is because I do not have sex with American women. This is an actual rule of mine, no American women. I am twenty one, no kids, never been married, and never had a girlfriend and I like things this way. The last thing I want is to be paying child support to some chick I had a one night stand with. While she refuses to let me see the child but expects the check to come in on time every month, no thanks. Because of the way I live my life the last thing I expected was to ever fall in love, I never planned for it. Now I try to rationalize it to myself, saying 'I cannot get hurt in a different country right? '. I always thought of fallen in love as a dangerous thing, a time when guys let their guard down and are inevitably eaten by their harpy girlfriend. I do not have any of her contact information, when I was in Medellin I was in such an elated state that I did not think about such things. I think you could say I had a natural high, or I was high on life despite that fact that I did not partake in drugs besides some Sildenafil. Now I am thinking of going back to Medellin to find this girl again and actually getting her information this time. I also should explain that I do not know this girl well so the attraction purely stems from the sex and everything else I gathered from the times we met. But I do not think any of these things matter because I do not want to be her boyfriend anyway. I just want to have the security of knowing I can find her on my next trip to Medellin. I believe this is a symbiotic proposition because I get the best sex of my life and she gets paid. If only fucking all women was this simple. I would like to know if anyone else has fallen for a girl the way I have? Also is my behavior irrational? Should I resent any feeling of love and attachment to this girl? Should I go back to Medellin to get this girls contact information?

Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated thanks.[/QUOTE]Seems crazy to be taking Viagra at 21. Most 21 year-olds can fuck virtually non-stop. I could do that even if I was drunk out of my mind. Save the Viagra for later when you really need it.

You need to take another mongering trip and fuck a few dozen more hot chicks and then see if you're still in love. My prediction is you'll be laughing about this whole subject.

American women can be fine. The problem for me (and I assume many other ISGers) is I'm nearly 50 and I can't date much younger than mid thirties in the States. So I go to Colombia, Brasil, DR, etc to fuck hot-looking 20 year-olds. But you're 21. You can be fucking girls in the States like crazy. Just make sure you wear condoms, and you shouldn't have to worry.

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1445436]You gave good advice, thank you. You are the third person today that has told me to lay off the Viagra. Would someone please tell me what potential threat everyone is cryptically talking about? But in the end I do not see anything wrong with lusting over pussy. I cannot help how I feel. It is not as if I will marry her and try to get her a green card. I will not send her money transfers and other such things. All I want is to be able to fuck her again. I think Savepros321 is right; this is a natural reaction to going raw with a chick and busting a giant nut deep into her vagina. Now that I think about it, how could I not be lusting after this girl? I do not want to settle down; I do want to live fast.[/QUOTE]Where you from BRO?

Web the next time you taking a trip.

I'm going to MDE next week.

Then in 2 months D. R

So holla

I'm in my early 30s and I haven't tried Viagra of any kind before. I'll be in MDE next month, staying at the mansion for 6 days. I want to have those pills handy since I usually pop 3-4 max in a 24 hr period, more than that is just too exhausting. I'm not seeking any medical advice or anything like that, but I should be using them if I want to go for round 4 or round 5? I've read a lot about guys who wish they had one more session in them to try a girl they wanted, but were simply drained after multiple sessions beforehand. Will the pills help me in that regard?

Thanks for any info!

[QUOTE=Combo; 1445520]Seems crazy to be taking Viagra at 21. Most 21 year-olds can fuck virtually non-stop. I could do that even if I was drunk out of my mind. Save the Viagra for later when you really need it.

You need to take another mongering trip and fuck a few dozen more hot chicks and then see if you're still in love. My prediction is you'll be laughing about this whole subject.

American women can be fine. The problem for me (and I assume many other ISGers) is I'm nearly 50 and I can't date much younger than mid thirties in the States. So I go to Colombia, Brasil, DR, etc to fuck hot-looking 20 year-olds. But you're 21. You can be fucking girls in the States like crazy. Just make sure you wear condoms, and you shouldn't have to worry.[/QUOTE]

[quote=infamous man; 1445427]get $$$

get pussy.[/quote]hell yeah! that is what i be talking about! get paper, fuck bitchiz! chapo / escobar style jajajajaja.

[quote=turgid;1445510]my advice is to not have a mental block against falling in love. if you live the mongering only life there will come a time when you will desire the 'normal' life, viz. wife, kids, family etc. and it is better to try that lifestyle while relatively young rather than later on in life when all sorts of complications can arise. monger, yes, but if cupid's arrow strikes, give it a try. if it does not work out then "it is better to have loved and lost than."[/quote]i actually think the opposite, i am in the idea of enjoy youth, then settle down a lot later in life! i mean 40-50 should be the appropriate time for the 1st serious relationship (by serious i mean serious, like close to marriage, but without the actual marriage document, that is just sticking your finger up your ass, i don't believe a marriage license should be the reason as to why a couple need to "settle down" or to show their are committed, its bs to me, my personal opinion)

[quote=frannie; 1445406]i don't have any practical advice on what to do, except to say that it seems very unwise to me to take sildenafil (viagra) at the age of 21. i took it for the first time when i was almost 50 and the good thing was that it made me feel like i was 21 again.

i think this post might be taken as a warning, because i have always thought that it would be detrimental to a man's social, personal, and intellectual development to start paying for sex before middle age. youth is the time for falling in love with women of one's own age, raising children, building a career and a place in the world, not for surreptitious travel to foreign parts for sex with prostitutes...[/quote]i agree with you, but something i don't, but let me put it in order

1) with the viagra 100% with you, it is obsolete for anyone in good shape under 40 to use viagra, its just like a swimming pool inside a swimming pool, or a man-tit, just unnecessary.

2) i agree with you about not pursuing a relationship with a pro, that should be a given! i was always told this, words of wisdom with the subject of putas "las putas solo hay que cogerlas, & para eso nada mas, no tienen sentimientos o valor, solo para hacerle mierda la cuca & el culo!" (now don't interpret it wrong, don't be a piece of shit with pros, you can be respectful and be a gentleman, however always have that mindset when fucking one, and then go to the next, no need to repeat the same plate!)

3) in respect to american women and foreign women too, i believe this, having been raised in the states and summers in my country of origin (i am hispanic gringo, born in the states but with latino parents) i think it is not always fair to over-generalize, yes environment plays a big role in how a person grows up to be, however i don't think it is fair to overgeneralize and say all american women are over-empowering feminist needy entitled bitches, maybe in average ratio they are, as opposed to many other nations where women are more objectified yeah (cough cough, latin america & asia) but i have known great american women whom i have so much respect for, educated intelligent, loving, kind and selfless, they exist! maybe scarcely, but they exist. those would obviously be better partners than a puta jajaja.

4) and lastly i don't know about agreeing or disagreeing with you about having experiences with pros early in life, basically you say that having sex with pros early in life could have negative psychological / emotional effects, and i see a problem with that, in the states the subject of p4p is so frowned upon that it is ridiculous. in my case i spout out my first one with two pros at 14, summer vacation to guatemala visiting family, and an uncle of mine asked me "queres probar mujer" already at that age i was already fucking horny porn headed, jacking off three times a day kid and was like "si si si!" and shit, so we go to a brothel, imprudence of the third world disables me from needing to show an i'd, so i had my first beer also, and two pros approached us, and bla bla, tells us they are cousins, bla bla, they are from honduras, bla bla, uncles tells him my first time, they get extremely surprised, cutting the chit chat, he takes them out for me, my uncle drops me off with those two pros at a hotel room, and tells me in spanish "i will be back in a few hours, don't disappoint me!" it was probably one of the best days of my life, i was positively raped! best fucking experience, the smell of the women, their attention, it was everything, fucking the interest they put in it, non mechanical whatsoever, and just hardcore so porn-like, easily the catalyst of my life, even more than the day i got my scholarship to embry riddle (where i am at right now) and after that day i had a thing for pros, i have had girlfriends, and a good number of non-pro sex after that, but my best "sessions" have been thus far with pros, non experienced girls are always akward sex, some people would cringe with the idea of a woman having mileage, but not me! give me an experienced milf before a hymen any day! conclusion: early pro sex to me brought more happiness and positivity than negativity in my honest opinion.

i sort of empathize a little with seizetheday, reason being is that i am also as young as him, actually a year younger. my point is that i get really peeved with the ignorance and misconceptions here in the states about the subject of pros. we had a class discussion once in developmental psychology, i brought this subject up, and our school body is very international, thus allowing us to have an international perspective, it just annoyed me and the internationonal body about how american had these 4 common ignorant misconceptions about prostitution 1) all cases of prostitution is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] (bullshit, so many pros that are making a shit load of money for just having a pretty face) 2) prostitutes = std's (bullshit, as you all know here most pros are much more paranoid about condom usage than a typical non-pro) 3) all prostitutes are ugly ratchet ass crack trash (too much tv, that is what a typical prostitute is depicted in criminal tv shows, and obviously a large number of streetwalker pros in us are like that, but mainly because it is criminalized just like drugs, which limits the market to just extremely drug desperate women to do the hobby, both things should be decriminalized, prostitution and drugs, i don't see why innocent people from both my countries of mexico and guatemala (and people from colombia) need to get their bodies chopped up because 16-20 year old entitled americans want to have fun with coke and weed, decriminalize and let it be run by the state!) 4) those who solicit pros cannot are degenerate ant*ial's who can't get it without paying for it (overgeneralizing it, maybe there are a few people who p4p whom might be socially akward that would opt to pay for sex, however it is not fair to label them as "degenerate" or "abnormal", nothing abnormal about wanting to fuck, more damaging it is to deny yourself your need to fuck, i have had "conventional relationships" and have had sex with pros, like i said most people in the world have sex with pros, i dare to say that most people who pay for sex are actually married compromised men as opposed to social inept people) either way, the americans in the classrooms made a fool of themselves at the end of the debate, augmenting the typical stereotype of the ignorant american that the european and south korean classmates had about them.

so here is how i conclude this, don't condemn the other members simply because they are young and opt to pay for sex, as at the end of the day even if its a pro, semi pro, non pro, its all pussy! and at the end you pay it anyhow! like a wise man once said "todas las mujeres son putas" so there, and lastly, sex with pros at youth has this most important benefit:

you have less chance of impregnating a pro than a non pro! undesired children, i know way to many people whose life got ruined because of having an early child, being in a relationship in spite of not really loving each other and just pretending to for the child, that to me is a more miserable lifestyle than a successful money abundant bachelor going around the world fucking top of the line chicas!

my 2 cents

east la kid.

p. s. reason why i have been eyeballing this thread is because there might be a possibility i take a trip to colombia with a classmate of mine that is from medellin and stay with his family over there and get to know the place, however i see it a little hard to accomplish before the next semester starts, it might have to be postponed for next year, btw a lot of great info in this thread!

Beer on me next time!

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1445439]I wish they would allow bars and restaurants to have them out again. Stupid rule that Itagui has enforced since last year. Oh well, look on the bright side, I have recently known at least 5 new chicas that fit your type and taste.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1445340]`I need some advice. I believe I have fallen in love with a prostitute from Medellin. I wrote my report a month ago. In that report I stated how I longed to see this girl again, however in the time that has lapsed since then till now she has become the sine qua non of my existence. This girl is all I think about all day. Sure I get things done, but I do them while thinking of her. There is no longer me and my thoughts now it is me and my thoughts plus the thought of her. I would like to know if anyone else has fallen for a girl the way I have? Also is my behavior irrational? Should I resent any feeling of love and attachment to this girl? Should I go back to Medellin to get this girls contact information?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1445436]Would someone please tell me what potential threat everyone is cryptically talking about? But in the end I do not see anything wrong with lusting over pussy. I cannot help how I feel. It is not as if I will marry her and try to get her a green card. I will not send her money transfers and other such things. All I want is to be able to fuck her again. I think Savepros321 is right; this is a natural reaction to going raw with a chick and busting a giant nut deep into her vagina. Now that I think about it, how could I not be lusting after this girl? I do not want to settle down; I do want to live fast.[/QUOTE]Two days and two different people. Many have done the things that you say that you won't do. Many have gone into financial ruin and worse. I was addressing the person in first post. Good to see you have regained your senses.

GL

[QUOTE=Cali Hentai; 1444247]Didn't see the post. But from what I'm hearing all are equal partners financially (one I hear is a silent partner and one will be running the bar full time, probably Robert will be in charge of the women and what the other guy has to contribute I have no idea).

If the Mayorista street rats want a piece of the action they better step up their game. Haven't see anything there that interested me so far.

After the place opens I'll give a report on my impressions of the place.

Who knows where the prices will go but I suspect that they will go down once the Mansion chicks are faced with outside competition. Or maybe the street chicks will look so shabby next to them. That they will clean house. Time will tell.[/QUOTE]This is for the poster who didn't appreciate some of the photos from the newsletter. We didn't chose who showed up for the shoot, and I don't like to hurt women's feelings by telling them they're not cute enough for my camera. Feel free not to frequent our place. The last problem we are going to have is not enough beautiful women. After all, this is Medellin, and between me and Robert there will never be a shortage of available hot chicas. I can't go two steps in MDE without some chica asking me when we'll be open. We just need you guys to keep them busy.

The grand opening is Friday August 2nd and everyone is welcome; even the guys who think that the girls hanging there will be ugly.) The place will undoubtably be very comfortable and fun. I also don't agree with the poster who wondered about jealous boyfriends hanging around and killing people.) It's amazing that in 10 years in operation that never happened at the Mansion; a place a lot more likely because it's a hotel where people go to have sex. We are just a club. There will be no sex on the premises.

Also don't worry about Robert. He knows exactly what he's doing. He is one of the owners, but he is no more of an owner than the rest of us. We ask for your best wishes, and we are open to advice and suggestions, but not spiteful envious remarks. Those will be ignored from now on.

Esteef aka Av8r

[QUOTE=Esteef;1445605]I also don't agree with the poster who wondered about jealous boyfriends hanging around and killing people.) It's amazing that in 10 years in operation that never happened at the Mansion; a place a lot more likely because it's a hotel where people go to have sex. We are just a club. There will be no sex on the premises.[/QUOTE]I agree. A better comparison is the stripclubs in the same vicinity with sex on premises. I would feel perfectly safe in those places. Medellin's dangerous barrios are extremely dangerous but this doesn't trickle into places like this often if at all. This is especially true if these places are located in a decent neighboorhood and Barrio Colombia is decent enough to avoid problems. No reason not to have sufficient security, to make the Gringos feel safe, which I am sure you will. GL

[QUOTE=Almotu; 1445505]If you are in the USA you can call their VOIP Miami number: +1-312 546-4301. They have their own thread in this Colombia section of ISG.

Their website is.

[url]http://www.hotelmedellinplaza.com/index.html[/url][/QUOTE]Hey thanks for the info Almotu.

Help a bro out.

So I plan on visiting some Casas.

Is there a bell or buzzer?

Do I just walk in?

Do I pay upfront or after?

Do all give a presentation?

Do they have list of prices?

Same with the strip clubs.

Do I just walk up to the girls I want?

Pay first or after service?

Some quick help is needed

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1445422]As far as the Sildenafil goes, you are not the first person to suggest I stop taking it. So I will ask you the same question. What is the risk? In regards to the rest of your post, I want children as much as I want colon cancer. What is the point of having a career if it does not afford me the luxury of doing what I want to do in life: travel the world fucking prostitutes along the way. Do you want me to slave away 70 hours a week with no vacation time so that the American government can take 60% of my income to pay for loquisha's baby's Similac? What is the point of making money if I cannot pay for prostitutes? As far as girls my age you got me there, I did not fuck any 21 year olds in Medellin. Although I did fuck a 20 year old and two 18 year olds. What do you want me to do, chase after the American dream? A wife, kids, and a house with a white picket fence? Are you serious? What year do you think this is 1950? Do you know what the national debt is? Do you know what the unemployment rate is? And the women! These girls sit at home watching 'Keeping up with the Kardashians'! Do you realize that Kim Kardashian filed for divorce after 72 days! Addicted to sex, give me some credit. Everything is an addiction now, if you like sex you are addicted to it right? Come on sir. If the price were to go to high I would not pay, simple as that. I would not pay if the price went up at all, expect for inflation being accounted for of course. And lastly why do I have to partner up with someone, why do I have to conform to your idea of a healthy life style? Why do I have to get married when there is a 50% divorce rate? Or have a girlfriend and run the risk of being subject to a common law marriage? Thanks for the input.[/QUOTE]I think one of the dangers of Sildenafil is that you could become psychologically dependent on it for sexual performance, not to mention that it could mask onset of other health problems and interact with other medications that you might take at some point in your life.

[QUOTE]What is the point of making money if I cannot pay for prostitutes?[/QUOTE]The problem with this point of view is that it will alienate you from your family and from whatever professional milieu and community you frequent, because it is not considered acceptable in any sense in mainstream America, though it might be in the criminal classes. I don't know you personally-maybe you are an orphan for all I know-but I am just talking about 21-year-olds in general. You will always have to keep this aspect of life a secret or face social sanctions of various kinds. How can you be open and honest with the people around you if you are always living with this secret that desire for prostitutes is the most important thing in your life?

Probably it is already too late for you to take a different path in life, but you may come to regret it later on.

[QUOTE=Combo;1445520]Seems crazy to be taking Viagra at 21. Most 21 year-olds can fuck virtually non-stop. I could do that even if I was drunk out of my mind. Save the Viagra for later when you really need it.[/QUOTE]To the Original Poster (not Combo) about falling in love ect. Get over it! You're in "Love" with the adventure, the road, the fact that nobody knows you and you can be the guy you've always wished you were. Because in your normal life you have, student loan payment, cable bill, family drama, GF drama, home board to death. You know real life crap. This random SUPER hot chick you fucked and clearly enjoyed she represents your good time and is the focal point of that good time and more importantly the recipient of all those good memories.

Back to Combo's post:

Yeah man Combo correct, don't start using that junk if you don'g have to. Don't get me wrong it's fun as hell to rock out the Thunder Dick! LOL! I'd say it's only good to use viagra / ed pill if you are up doing coke and drinking. IE Coke Dick or Whiskey Dick. Shit happens. Shouldn't happen to a 21 year old but it does. Or if she is a lame duck fuck and you have to rock a condom. I coud see that killing your wood as well.

[QUOTE=USMatt;1443092]I will be in Medellin around mid-August for 2 weeks for my 5th trip. Plenty of FB chicas and many of them seem to be mansion chicks. Any favorites for folks here outside of the ubiquitous Wendy. Some chicks that caught my attention are Pao Z, Juliana S, Karo R, Kata G and Liliana R.[/QUOTE]Can anyone recommend some of the FB chicas. It is one thing to be friends with them but that does not give me any clue about their attitude / cleanliness / performance. I have never been a Mansion guy and most of these girls seem to be mansion regulars. Pao Z, Juliana S, Karo R, Kata G and Lilian H.

[QUOTE=Esteef;1445605]We didn't chose who showed up for the shoot, and I don't like to hurt women's feelings by telling them they're not cute enough for my camera.[/QUOTE]Hopefully this same soft-handed approach is not used when deciding which chicas you let into your club. If you are uncomfortable with this then you'd best leave this screening process up to Robert. He has no problem telling chicas who 'can" or "cannot" show up to the Mansion.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;1445536]I'm in my early 30s and I haven't tried Viagra of any kind before. I'll be in MDE next month, staying at the mansion for 6 days. I want to have those pills handy since I usually pop 3-4 max in a 24 hr period, more than that is just too exhausting. I'm not seeking any medical advice or anything like that, but I should be using them if I want to go for round 4 or round 5? I've read a lot about guys who wish they had one more session in them to try a girl they wanted, but were simply drained after multiple sessions beforehand. Will the pills help me in that regard? Thanks for any info![/QUOTE]I am in my early 30's and I do not use Viagra; I use Cialis (or a generic Tadalafil). One 10mg has you set for at least 2-3 days before you would need to pop another one.

I do not have a prescription for the stuff; I just use it when mongering because I usually do multiple sessions a day (you can buy this stuff in Colombia w/o a prescription). Cialis works for me because You're ready to go when you are ready to go.

Viagra is probably more suited for some one with "real" ED problems, which means popping one before sex and then waiting 25-30 minutes before it kicks in.

Just keep in mind: With all of this stuff you are not going to experience "Instant Wood". You still have to be sexually aroused for it to work. So no fat chicks, LOL.

[QUOTE=Esteef; 1445605]This is for the poster who didn't appreciate some of the photos from the newsletter. We didn't chose who showed up for the shoot, and I don't like to hurt women's feelings by telling them they're not cute enough for my camera. Feel free not to frequent our place. The last problem we are going to have is not enough beautiful women. After all, this is Medellin, and between me and Robert there will never be a shortage of available hot chicas. I can't go two steps in MDE without some chica asking me when we'll be open. We just need you guys to keep them busy.

The grand opening is Friday August 2nd and everyone is welcome; even the guys who think that the girls hanging there will be ugly.) The place will undoubtably be very comfortable and fun. I also don't agree with the poster who wondered about jealous boyfriends hanging around and killing people.) It's amazing that in 10 years in operation that never happened at the Mansion; a place a lot more likely because it's a hotel where people go to have sex. We are just a club. There will be no sex on the premises.

Esteef aka Av8r[/QUOTE]Can you share the menu once pricing has been determined? How much are beer, wine, cocktails & munchies? Hours of operation, what days of the week? Dress code for guys? I assume that you won't charge a barfine to guys who invite a chica home with them?

Best of luck to your project.

[QUOTE=Esteef; 1445605]This is for the poster who didn't appreciate some of the photos from the newsletter. We didn't chose who showed up for the shoot, and I don't like to hurt women's feelings by telling them they're not cute enough for my camera. Feel free not to frequent our place. The last problem we are going to have is not enough beautiful women. After all, this is Medellin, and between me and Robert there will never be a shortage of available hot chicas. I can't go two steps in MDE without some chica asking me when we'll be open. We just need you guys to keep them busy...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update it's all very interesting to watch play-out. How big is the new club going to be? Is there going to be a DJ and dance floor? Also will there be a cover charge at the door? I am hoping that the new place is a big success and that La Cueva remains a solid place to meet and enjoy Medellins finest. After the opening I hope that Robert will still have time to hangout at La Cueva, he has good energy.

As for the poster who was insulting, I'm now glad he did it. The pics you included w / the above post are very nice indeed, wow!

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1445422]In regards to the rest of your post, I want children as much as I want colon cancer. What is the point of having a career if it does not afford me the luxury of doing what I want to do in life: travel the world fucking prostitutes along the way. Do you want me to slave away 70 hours a week with no vacation time so that the American government can take 60% of my income to pay for loquisha's baby's Similac? What is the point of making money if I cannot pay for prostitutes? As far as girls my age you got me there, I did not fuck any 21 year olds in Medellin. Although I did fuck a 20 year old and two 18 year olds. What do you want me to do, chase after the American dream? A wife, kids, and a house with a white picket fence? Are you serious? What year do you think this is 1950? Do you know what the national debt is? Do you know what the unemployment rate is? And the women! These girls sit at home watching 'Keeping up with the Kardashians'! Do you realize that Kim Kardashian filed for divorce after 72 days![/QUOTE]I like this guy, LOL! Good posts Seize The Day.

Frannie, you need to read his response over again a few times: this is NOT the 1950's!

This report came out last Friday (July 5th). As the rapper Too Short said,"Get it while the gettin is good":

[b]Only 47% of Americans have a full-time job and those who don't are finding it increasingly out of reach[/b]

[url]http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/05/only-47-americans-have-full-time-job[/url]

And as you read this, keep in mind that it is us guys competing against women for the same amount of limited resources. They like their shopping for handbags and cruises to the Bahamas just as much as we like our trips overseas and putas, LOL!

[QUOTE=Infamous Man; 1445649]Help a bro out.

So I plan on visiting some Casas.

Is there a bell or buzzer?

Do I just walk in?

Do I pay upfront or after?

Do all give a presentation?

Do they have list of prices?

Same with the strip clubs.

Do I just walk up to the girls I want?

Pay first or after service?

Some quick help is needed[/QUOTE]I readily admit I am not as experienced in MDE as others, but this will quickly change with time. I know that I knocked on the sky blue door of New Life the my first time like a dumbass, but my taxi driver told me to just go in. But I have been there five times so I know it well now. Here is what you do, open the blue door; push the buzzer for the first metal door, the second door should open up after the first. Walk up stairs, one of the guys (that works there) should help you. If you are the only guy they will show you the lineup (around twenty girls). But if you are not the only guy they will show you the lineup but you choose your girl after the other guys. Sometimes it is crowed and you have to wait a little. New Life is very organized. They do have a list in the room is Spanish. New Life on top is in English. The list has prices for 30 mins, una hora. 1 hour 45min. 3 hours, and so forth. You pay after. Lindas Chicas is different. Honestly I would not recommend them because they do not have a list of prices, you pay upfront, and the cost is outrageous. They usually have around three or four girls only, mostly ugly chicks by my standards. Funny thing actually but I feel I must point something out. I am not sure about this; let me start by saying that. Some guy names Esteef posted some photos of some girls. Now he said that this post was for the guy who said that the other girls in the photos were ugly. That guy was me; I was not trying to start anything. I was just saying. Now look at the second photo of two girls, the one where the girls are on the bed. Once again I cannot be sure from a photo, but look at the girl in black. Now go back to my trip report from a month ago, go to the end of the post. At the end of the post I talked about the second girl from Lindas Chicas I had, and paid 150k for. Read that and laugh your ass off. If it is not her she must have a long lost twin, or just a twin. But like I said I could be wrong. At Fase Dose which is a strip club, the girls ask for 170k for about 30min, and you pay upfront. I would not recommend for sex though. Maybe one of the Centro strip clubs, they are cheaper. Yes I just start talking to the girl you want in a strip club, this is what I love about Medellin (money talks). Though I have never been to a strip club in the US, in most of them you get thrown out for touching the girl. In Medellin you get what you want.

Casas and massage places. Often unmarked, just ring the bell if the door is closed or just walk in. Often will be a tout outside to guide you in your decision. Some places have a price list on the wall, others do not. Ask. Usually they have beer available for a modedst charge (2k to 5k pesos). Most places have a presentation, which is fast. You ask one of the girls to sit with you, check her out more, confirm the prices, perhaps buy her a drink. Then you go to a private room which may be small, may have a massage table instead of a bed, probably does not have a bathroom and shower. You may be asked to leave if you don't pick a girl after a reasonable time.

Strip clubs. Sometimes marked, sometimes not. Door is always open. Go in. Stripping may be more theoretical then actual if there are not a lot of guys there. Drinks available. Usually do not have a price list posted. Usually have rooms on site, but sometimes next door. You can sit and drink as long as you want.

A few places have a cover or a charge if you don't take a girl.

payment before or after: usually there is a person in charge of the money and accounting and you pay first.

supplies: the house usually provides a condom (or 2 for an hour) and some toilet paper to clean up with. the girl may provide lub and wipes.

-zing.

[QUOTE=Infamous Man; 1445649]Help a bro out.

So I plan on visiting some Casas.

Is there a bell or buzzer?

Do I just walk in?

Do I pay upfront or after?

Do all give a presentation?

Do they have list of prices?

Same with the strip clubs.

Do I just walk up to the girls I want?

Pay first or after service?

Some quick help is needed[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1445713]I like this guy, LOL! Good posts Seize The Day.

Frannie, you need to read his response over again a few times: this is NOT the 1950's!

This report came out last Friday (July 5th). As the rapper Too Short said,"Get it while the gettin is good":

[b]Only 47% of Americans have a full-time job and those who don't are finding it increasingly out of reach[/b]

[url]http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/05/only-47-americans-have-full-time-job[/url]

And as you read this, keep in mind that it is us guys competing against women for the same amount of limited resources. They like their shopping for handbags and cruises to the Bahamas just as much as we like our trips overseas and putas, LOL![/QUOTE]Once again, thanks for the positive feedback. I do not get a lot of praise of here, but there are some others as well. Not many people seem to like me on this site. We seem to agree on most issues.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1445664]I think one of the dangers of Sildenafil is that you could become psychologically dependent on it for sexual performance, not to mention that it could mask onset of other health problems and interact with other medications that you might take at some point in your life.

The problem with this point of view is that it will alienate you from your family and from whatever professional milieu and community you frequent, because it is not considered acceptable in any sense in mainstream America, though it might be in the criminal classes. I don't know you personally-maybe you are an orphan for all I know-but I am just talking about 21-year-olds in general...[/QUOTE]Why would I want to be like most Americans? Do you know many Americans cannot find American on a map? Are these the people I should try to emulate in life? Sure I cannot go around telling people that I go to South America fucking prostitutes, but that is because most Americans are sleeping. In fact it might be a good idea to start telling people so I would in fact face these social sanctions you speak of. This way I will no longer be surrounded by morons. How can I live with the secret? That is easy; it is none of their fucking business! When it is time for me to die and forever cease to exist, at least I will have the comfort of knowing I played by my rules. To be honest most people are not worth it. It is just better to tell most people to fuck off in life. And as far as alienation goes, I have asked people why they are voting for Obama before. And they told me 'Because hes black'. I asked if there was any other reason and they said 'no'. I asked what they knew about his policies and they said 'It didn't matter'. I already feel alienated sir.

[quote=EastLAkid; 1445568]Hell yeah! That is what I be talking about! Get paper, fuck bitchiz! Chapo / Escobar style jajajajaja.

I actually think the opposite, I am in the idea of enjoy youth, then settle down a lot later in life! I mean 40-50 should be the appropriate time for the 1st serious relationship (by serious I mean serious, like close to marriage, but without the actual marriage document, that is just sticking your finger up your ass, I don't believe a marriage license should be the reason as to why a couple need to "settle down" or to show their are committed, its bs to me, my personal opinion)[/quote]Hello my fellow 90ties baby! From your post you seem to be a very astute individual and you remind me a lot of myself. I agree with you, why should the State be necessary to validate a bond between two people.

[quote=EastLAkid; 1445568]3) In respect to American Women and foreign women too, I believe this, having been raised in the states and summers in my country of origin (I am Hispanic Gringo, born in the states but with Latino Parents) I think it is not always fair to over-generalize, yes environment plays a big role in how a person grows up to be, however I don't think it is fair to overgeneralize and say all American women are over-empowering feminist needy entitled bitches, maybe in average ratio they are, as opposed to many other nations where women are more objectified yeah (cough cough, Latin America & Asia) but I have known great American women whom I have so much respect for, educated intelligent, loving, kind and selfless, they exist! Maybe scarcely, but they exist. Those would obviously be better partners than a puta jajaja...[/quote]Scarce! I am not about to go around the US playing Blues Clues.

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1445725]Once again, thanks for the positive feedback. I do not get a lot of praise of here, but there are some others as well. Not many people seem to like me on this site. We seem to agree on most issues.[/QUOTE]Just me. But relegating yourself to paying for each and every piece of ass you get from the age of 21 seems more than a little depressing.

I have met a few mongers in Medellin that I'm fairly certain never got laid in their lives until they paid for it. Most seem like nice guys and treat the women they are with well. So I don't want to make light of their plight. But there are two that I would classify as just straight up sociopaths. Outside of sex acts they have absolutely zero interest in the women.

Judging from your original post I have a hard time seeing you in this group.

The main problem I see (personally) with the mongering lifestyle is that it is unsustainable for me. I like to get laid on a daily basis and I just don't have the resources to pay for a chick to bang me everyday of my life. Which means girlfriend in Colombia or the USA or both.

Self imposed celibacy for weeks or months while working your ass off in the states in OK for older guys that aren't going to get a decent piece of ass no matter what. But you have to wonder if your choosing this path at the ripe old age of 21 isn't selling yourself short.

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1445725]Once again, thanks for the positive feedback. I do not get a lot of praise of here, but there are some others as well. Not many people seem to like me on this site. We seem to agree on most issues.[/QUOTE]I don't dislike you. What I write is just a general warning to people who get involved in sex travel at a very early age. There is a considerable danger of dedicating some of the best years of your life to it, and then burning out with not a lot achieved.

When I was 21 I was probably more idealistic than you and I don't think I would have considered sex with a prostitute, but I certainly wanted to see the world and left my own country for employment overseas, and when I was single spent a lot of money competing in marathons and traveling to various places that I had read about and wanted to see and experience-from Hawaii in the west to Greece in the east and many places in between.

(In fact when I was 17, I was bumming around and sleeping rough in Amsterdam and saw female prostitutes in "shop windows" in the red light district but I can honestly say it did not occur to me to try to pay one for sex.)

Rather than work to earn money to pay prostitutes, you could possibly volunteer for work overseas in countries where you find the women more to your taste, or indeed prepare yourself with the language and job skills needed to emigrate to a Latin American country on a more permanent basis and build a new life.

At 21 the world is your oyster and if you are a US citizen, there are so many advantages not open to people of other nationalities.

Just this week here in the Dominican Republic we bade farewell to a Dominican guy of Haitian origin who left to go to Brazil to try to make money to support his two sons in the DR. The interesting thing is that although he knows people there who will help him get work, he still has to go on a tourist visa and stay illegally, as there is no way he can do it legally on his DR citizenship without much money. Also tomorrow a lovely young Haitian woman whose wedding to a Dutchman I went to several months ago is leaving with her 7-months baby for a new life in Holland, possibly never to return, who knows, though of course there is Skype these days.

These determined young people are seizing on very fragile and difficult opportunities to seek a better life than what was on the cards dealt to them. Your opportunities are so much greater just because of the accident of your birth. (I am assuming you are a US citizen-apologies if this is not correct.)

[QUOTE=Cali Hentai;1445742]The main problem I see (personally) with the mongering lifestyle is that it is unsustainable for me. I like to get laid on a daily basis and I just don't have the resources to pay for a chick to bang me everyday of my life. Which means girlfriend in Colombia or the USA or both.[/QUOTE]Just out if curiosity, what is it exactly that you are telling you girlfriend in the US as to why you are taking 3 to 4 trips per year to Colombia? The Secret Service Cartagena sex scandal already exposed Colombia as a sex tourist destination, so the "fishing trip with the buds" excuse doesn't work anymore.

[QUOTE=Cali Hentai;1445742]Self imposed celibacy for weeks or months while working your ass off in the states in OK for older guys that aren't going to get a decent piece of ass no matter what. But you have to wonder if your choosing this path at the ripe old age of 21 isn't selling yourself short.[/QUOTE]That is it, in a nutshell! Suppose you are able to get away 6 times a year for a week. That means working and living like a monk eight weeks out of nine, so that you can afford to go away for the other week and spend the money you have saved on people who have no interest in you as a person except for separating you from the contents of your wallet as quickly as possible.

It will seem great at first and a very glamorous secret lifestyle having sex with beautiful young women whom you could never bed in your own country, but the longer you do it the less rewarding it will become.

If you have time, read My Secret History by Paul Theroux.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1445746]Just out if curiosity, what is it exactly that you are telling you girlfriend in the US as to why you are taking 3 to 4 trips per year to Colombia? The Secret Service Cartagena sex scandal already exposed Colombia as a sex tourist destination, so the "fishing trip with the buds" excuse doesn't work anymore.[/QUOTE]I never tell anyone I'm going to Colombia or even traveling abroad. Nobody can tell where you are these days just have your cell phone calls forwarded to your skype number or other similar service and that is it. Be careful with emails. Had a chick figure out I wasn't in the USA once by tracking my IP address or something like that. Now I use a proxy to send emails.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1445745]I don't dislike you. What I write is just a general warning to people who get involved in sex travel at a very early age. There is a considerable danger of dedicating some of the best years of your life to it, and then burning out with not a lot achieved.

When I was 21 I was probably more idealistic than you and I don't think I would have considered sex with a prostitute, but I certainly wanted to see the world and left my own country for employment overseas, and when I was single spent a lot of money competing in marathons and traveling to various places that I had read about and wanted to see and experience-from Hawaii in the west to Greece in the east and many places in between...[/QUOTE]What are you talking about? I thought this was a website about sex, mainly with prostitutes. I am not here to talk about the foreign job market. I pay for pussy because I want to. If I wanted to work in another country and get a girlfriend there it would be done already. That fact is I am doing what I want to do with my life. It does not matter where it takes me because I will arrive at my destination through my own actions. And by the way you always pay for pussy whether she is a prostitute or not!

[QUOTE=Cali Hentai;1445758]I never tell anyone I'm going to Colombia or even traveling abroad. Nobody can tell where you are these days just have your cell phone calls forwarded to your skype number or other similar service and that is it. Be careful with emails. Had a chick figure out I wasn't in the USA once by tracking my IP address or something like that. Now I use a proxy to send emails.[/QUOTE]You said you had a problem with mongering because it is unsustainable. Well I have a problem sneaking around like a fucking ninja! I do not want to have some angry US girlfriend chopping my dick off and throwing it in the garbage disposal. The feminists will say this is her right to empower herself as a woman. No thank you!

[QUOTE=Frannie;1445745]At 21 the world is your oyster and if you are a US citizen, there are so many advantages not open to people of other nationalities.[/QUOTE]Also the opposite is true: if you are US citizen, and live in USA, there are so many things not open to you, but easily achievable for others. :D

[QUOTE=Cali Hentai;1445758]I never tell anyone I'm going to Colombia or even traveling abroad. Nobody can tell where you are these days just have your cell phone calls forwarded to your skype number or other similar service and that is it. Be careful with emails. Had a chick figure out I wasn't in the USA once by tracking my IP address or something like that. Now I use a proxy to send emails.[/QUOTE]That doesn't make any since unless your "girlfriend" lives in another State!

You said you needed sex daily, which is why you would have a girlfriend in the US. How the hell do you go from seeing your chick everyday (or even every other day) to pulling a disappearing act and not expect her to get suspicious after not seeing you for a day or two, or three? How do you explain your phone being turned off for prolonged periods of time as you "transit" from airport to airport?

Have you even had a "real" girlfriend, LOL?

I think you are being very unrealistic with the advice you were trying to give. The reason I do not play the dating scene/girlfriend thing in the US is because I travel frequently and there is no way in hell my girlfriend (that I'm supposed to be "in love with") is going to go for "I'm going to Colombia/Dominican Republic/Brazil/Thailand and you're not invited". These chics are pretty hip to what goes on in these locations. Even if you lied and said you were going to Timbuktu, she will want to know why you are going and why for so many days. Reply "none of your fucking business" and you will find yourself holding your dick once you get back.

Now, if you said that you have a "Side Chick", then that's a little different. In that instance it's "when we are together we are together; and when we are not, we are not." But you don't refer to your side chick as "girlfriend".

[QUOTE=Black Page;1445768]Also the opposite is true: if you are US citizen, and live in USA, there are so many things not open to you, but easily achievable for others. :D[/QUOTE]Nice Post. I was going to say the same thing but I didn't want to sound so un patriotic. I agree 100.

Those who still believe that being an american is a blessing are from a bygone era. I would hate to be a kid in the USA these days.

There has to be more to the story and character of this individual than we know. This is always the case online.

Regardless of what it is I will leave you (Seize The Day ) with a piece of advice from YEARS of mongering.

MEN ARE SLUTS AND WOMEN ARE PROSTITUTES. Once you learn this you are well on your way to taking care of yourself.

If you are falling for a hooker then you aren't getting any outside the game. YOU ARE NOT ALONE. America is based on the "winners and losers" theory. Each serve their purpose to society but only one gets you laid. Keep in mind that you can disregard any of society's norms and just be yourself if you choose to do so. That might get you laid quicker. That's what most of us do here but there are consequences. You have not learned the consequences yet. Look Listen and Learn.

You obviously have issues if you are falling for prostitutes but you are young and inexperienced. However I think it's cool that you are willing to listen to other people's advice.

I wish you well.

This book is on my to read list:

[url]http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/349826?uid=3739896&uid=2&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21102157611773[/url]

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1445783]Nice Post. I was going to say the same thing but I didn't want to sound so un patriotic. I agree 100.

Those who still believe that being an american is a blessing are from a bygone era. I would hate to be a kid in the USA these days.

There has to be more to the story and character of this individual than we know. This is always the case online.

Regardless of what it is I will leave you (Seize The Day) with a piece of advice from YEARS of mongering.

MEN ARE SLUTS AND WOMEN ARE PROSTITUTES. Once you learn this you are well on your way to taking care of yourself.

If you are falling for a hooker then you aren't getting any outside the game. YOU ARE NOT ALONE. America is based on the "winners and losers" theory. Each serve their purpose to society but only one gets you laid. Keep in mind that you can disregard any of society's norms and just be yourself if you choose to do so. That might get you laid quicker. That's what most of us do here but there are consequences. You have not learned the consequences yet. Look Listen and Learn.

You obviously have issues if you are falling for prostitutes but you are young and inexperienced. However I think it's cool that you are willing to listen to other people's advice.

I wish you well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Artisttyp; 1445783]Nice Post. I was going to say the same thing but I didn't want to sound so un patriotic. I agree 100.

Those who still believe that being an american is a blessing are from a bygone era. I would hate to be a kid in the USA these days.

There has to be more to the story and character of this individual than we know. This is always the case online.

Regardless of what it is I will leave you (Seize The Day) with a piece of advice from YEARS of mongering.

MEN ARE SLUTS AND WOMEN ARE PROSTITUTES. Once you learn this you are well on your way to taking care of yourself...[/QUOTE]Thank you for the advice. Maybe I should have been clearer about my definition of the word love. My definition is that because I had unprotected sex with a particular prostitute, I inevitably had a desire to do this again. I constantly thought about having sex with this girl again. I believe the chemicals in my body were and still will work in unison to urge me to once again fuck this girl. That is what I call love. I call this love because this is the most amount of emotional attachment a man should ever have with a women (In my opinion). Now some of you may have misconstrued my perception of love. You may have thought I wanted to grow old with this girl. You envisioned me having a few kids with her, a house in either Colombia or the US. A large wedding followed by a green card for my newlywed Colombian mujer. Well this is simply not the case, and it never was. But to honest this is my fault, I should have been more specific in my post and for that I apologize.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1445774]That doesn't make any since unless your "girlfriend" lives in another State!

You said you needed sex daily, which is why you would have a girlfriend in the US. How the hell do you go from seeing your chick everyday (or even every other day) to pulling a disappearing act and not expect her to get suspicious after not seeing you for a day or two, or three? How do you explain your phone being turned off for prolonged periods of time as you "transit" from airport to airport?

Have you even had a "real" girlfriend, LOL?

I think you are being very unrealistic with the advice you were trying to give. The reason I do not play the dating scene / girlfriend thing in the US is because I travel frequently and there is no way in hell my girlfriend (that I'm supposed to be "in love with") is going to go for "I'm going to Colombia / Dominican Republic / Brazil / Thailand and you're not invited". These chics are pretty hip to what goes on in these locations. Even if you lied and said you were going to Timbuktu, she will want to know why you are going and why for so many days. Reply "none of your fucking business" and you will find yourself holding your dick once you get back.

Now, if you said that you have a "Side Chick", then that's a little different. In that instance it's "when we are together we are together; and when we are not, we are not." But you don't refer to your side chick as "girlfriend".[/QUOTE]I can see you have had some issues trying to lead a double life. Jajaja.

Of course there are women that will be so far up you ass that you can't turn around without them asking what you are up to. When I run into women like this I answer their questions with a just one question "Are you looking for a reason not to see me again?". Some will stay and enjoy the ride and the others will go.

I'm not playing house and home with any of these chicks. Never promise commitment and if they come right out and ask for it I tell them I'm no good at it. But any chick that comes over to bang me without asking for anything is a girlfriend as far as I'm concerned.

I look at mongering as an enjoyable diversion. But certainly not something that should replace a chick that bangs the hell out of you just because. Well. She likes banging the hell out of you. And if you really can't stand American women than I'd recommend striking up some kind of a non P4P relationship in Colombia if possible.

I don't know why anyone would argue against hooking up with american women though. Even if. The relationships were short lived. It can be very cost effective these days. Dating is almost extinct along with the expense. People just go out with friends and "hook up".

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1445774]That doesn't make any since unless your "girlfriend" lives in another State!

You said you needed sex daily, which is why you would have a girlfriend in the US. How the hell do you go from seeing your chick everyday (or even every other day) to pulling a disappearing act and not expect her to get suspicious after not seeing you for a day or two, or three? How do you explain your phone being turned off for prolonged periods of time as you "transit" from airport to airport?

Have you even had a "real" girlfriend, LOL?"..[/QUOTE]I'm glad you are seeing through this guy, one of the biggest BS'ers in the history of internet forums. The guy hasn't had an AGF in probably 25 years. The only time he gets laid is when he is in Colombia, although he might keep a hooker or 2 on call in his US city. If you research his posts you will see where he states he was married and divorced 5 times. Of course that gave him away to me regarding his true identity, not to mention his frequenting of Cali over the years, and his posting on another forum that he was now in Medellin. He likes to embellish on forums to get attention. Glad he is contributing now to the girls at the Mansion and other places (and he swears that they really dig him, jaja) The Cali hookers and webcam girls that he kept company with got a little tired of his years in Cali. Nope, no way could he ever hide his travels from his American girlfriend.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;1445536]I'm in my early 30s and I haven't tried Viagra of any kind before. I'll be in MDE next month, staying at the mansion for 6 days. I want to have those pills handy since I usually pop 3-4 max in a 24 hr period, more than that is just too exhausting. I'm not seeking any medical advice or anything like that, but I should be using them if I want to go for round 4 or round 5? I've read a lot about guys who wish they had one more session in them to try a girl they wanted, but were simply drained after multiple sessions beforehand. Will the pills help me in that regard? Thanks for any info![/QUOTE]To answer your question, yes it will help you. Many people have problems with Viagra due to dosage. I would recommend 1/2.50 mg and adjust as needed. Use pill cutter or bite in half. If you want to you can try 50mg. You should feel the effects for sure at your age. Many people take 50mg and even 100mg pills on their first use, receive extreme symptoms, and then bad mouth the drug. GL

[QUOTE=Esteef; 1445605]This is for the poster who didn't appreciate some of the photos from the newsletter. We didn't chose who showed up for the shoot, and I don't like to hurt women's feelings by telling them they're not cute enough for my camera. Feel free not to frequent our place. The last problem we are going to have is not enough beautiful women. After all, this is Medellin, and between me and Robert there will never be a shortage of available hot chicas. I can't go two steps in MDE without some chica asking me when we'll be open. We just need you guys to keep them busy.

The grand opening is Friday August 2nd and everyone is welcome; even the guys who think that the girls hanging there will be ugly.) The place will undoubtably be very comfortable and fun. I also don't agree with the poster who wondered about jealous boyfriends hanging around and killing people.) It's amazing that in 10 years in operation that never happened at the Mansion; a place a lot more likely because it's a hotel where people go to have sex. We are just a club. There will be no sex on the premises.

Also don't worry about Robert. He knows exactly what he's doing. He is one of the owners, but he is no more of an owner than the rest of us. We ask for your best wishes, and we are open to advice and suggestions, but not spiteful envious remarks. Those will be ignored from now on.

Esteef aka Av8r[/QUOTE]I don't understand this critisism that these girls are not good looking. I liked all of them except one. I don't understand also which one looks like tranny? One of the two morenas? Both of them are in top three in my list

[QUOTE=Leblon;1445902]I don't understand this critisism that these girls are not good looking. I liked all of them except one. I don't understand also which one looks like tranny? One of the two morenas? Both of them are in top three in my list[/QUOTE]Most of the night chicks are pretty hot and the day time chicks aren't bad either.

[QUOTE=Combo;1445520]Seems crazy to be taking Viagra at 21. Most 21 year-olds can fuck virtually non-stop. I could do that even if I was drunk out of my mind. Save the Viagra for later when you really need it.[/QUOTE]One thing about Viagra and generic stuff that many people maybe haven't think about.

Me, and I assume many other men, can have nice good erection when not drunk. But, when drunk, when most of the interactions for me at least happens with prostitutes, situation is different. It is difficult to get so good erection that you can put condom on, and make sex.

So, what do almost all of the men do in this kind of situation? Throw a condom away and fuck without condom, that will succeed even with not so hard erection. Surprisingly many women, even if prostitutes, will allow this. And then you get all kind of troubles, like sexual diseases, girl will get pregnant or at least tell you so and wants lot of money to make fake abortion, and being afraid long time that any of this will happen.

But if you take Viagra, even if you are very drunk, you have nice and hard erection, you can put condom and have safe sex.

So, I would recommend using Viagra with mongering business, especially when you are drunk. Then using condom is much easier.

Recommendations say that don't use Viagra with alcohol, but I assume that it is like with me, Viagra is usually flushed down with whisky

[QUOTE=Cali Hentai;1445908]Most of the night chicks are pretty hot and the day time chicks aren't bad either.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Nino Bravo;1445801]I'm glad you are seeing through this guy, one of the biggest BS'ers in the history of internet forums.[/QUOTE]And to top it all off he likes to straight up jack photos from profiles of chicas he's never been with! I'm even beginning to think his post about his "recent trip to the Mansion" was even fabricated:

[url]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100005314178580&fref=ts[/url]

Mansion Fanboy?

[QUOTE=Leblon;1445902]I don't understand this critisism that these girls are not good looking. I liked all of them except one. I don't understand also which one looks like tranny? One of the two morenas? Both of them are in top three in my list[/QUOTE]I don't get it either. Several of them are very attractive. And the little cutie in the skirt and white stockings has one of the prettiest faces I have seen in a long time.

[quote=chesrep001; 1445791]this book is on my to read list:

[url]http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/349826?uid=3739896&uid=2&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21102157611773[/url][/quote]chesrep001, you might like these as well (attached):

[b]sexualutopia[/b] by f. roger devlin.

[i]"nature has played a trick on men: production of spermatozoa occurs at
a rate several orders of magnitude greater than female ovulation (about 12
million per hour vs. 400 per lifetime). this is a natural, not a moral, fact. among
the lower animals also, the male is grossly oversupplied with something for
which the female has only a limited demand. this means that the female
has far greater control over mating. the universal law of nature is that males
display and females choose. male peacocks spread their tales, females choose.
male rams butt horns, females choose. among humans, boys try to impress
girls—and the girls choose. nature dictates that in the mating dance, the male
must wait to be chosen..."[/i]

and

[b]the manipulated man[/b] by esther vilar.

[i]"by the age of twelve at the latest, most women have decided to become prostitutes.
or, to put it another way they have planned a future for themselves which consists of
choosing a man and letting him do all the work. in return for his support, they are
prepared to let him make use of their vagina at certain given intervals. the minute a
woman has made this decision she ceases to develop her mind. she may, of course, go on to obtain
various degrees and diplomas. these increase her market value in the eyes of men,
for men believe that a woman who can recite things by heart must also know and
understand them. but any real possibility of communication between the sexes
ceases at this point. their paths are divided forever."[/i]

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1445916]And to top it all off he likes to straight up jack photos from profiles of chicas he's never been with! I'm even beginning to think his post about his "recent trip to the Mansion" was even fabricated:

[url]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100005314178580&fref=ts[/url]

Mansion Fanboy?[/QUOTE]I wish everyone was a critical thinker like you. It is certainly more likely that I'm a basement dweller than ever having set foot in the Mansion based on my postings alone.

So how do you explain this. Care to make a clinical diagnosis:

At any rate welcome to the fan club.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1445700]Hopefully this same soft-handed approach is not used when deciding which chicas you let into your club. If you are uncomfortable with this then you'd best leave this screening process up to Robert. He has no problem telling chicas who 'can" or "cannot" show up to the Mansion.[/QUOTE]Taking pictures of unattractive women and letting unattractive women into the bar are two totally different things, but don't let it worry you. Both Robert and Bill the manager will be handling that part of things. Although I have to say it always surprises me that some of the women I find completely ugly are sometimes totally drooled over by other guys. The one area we will certainly not put up with are the overpricing hags that try to encourage a puta union. Of course there is no way to stop it completely, but we can definitely filter out the worst offenders.

I think it was Almotu who asked about prices, cover charges and hours. We will be having our final meeting on that in a week or so. We will not have inflated gouging prices. That's not the image we want to project. Our prices will be slightly higher than La Cueva at the Mansion because our overhead is much higher. We will likely have a 10k cover charge that will allow the customer to get 10k worth of drinks. It is only to discourage the cheapskates who always seem to think that bars like ours exist only for their convenience and that we spend all this money on overhead for our health.

[QUOTE=Esteef; 1445986]Taking pictures of unattractive women and letting unattractive women into the bar are two totally different things, but don't let it worry you. Both Robert and Bill the manager will be handling that part of things. Although I have to say it always surprises me that some of the women I find completely ugly are sometimes totally drooled over by other guys. The one area we will certainly not put up with are the overpricing hags that try to encourage a puta union. Of course there is no way to stop it completely, but we can definitely filter out the worst offenders.

I think it was Almotu who asked about prices, cover charges and hours. We will be having our final meeting on that in a week or so. We will not have inflated gouging prices. That's not the image we want to project. Our prices will be slightly higher than La Cueva at the Mansion because our overhead is much higher. We will likely have a 10k cover charge that will allow the customer to get 10k worth of drinks. It is only to discourage the cheapskates who always seem to think that bars like ours exist only for their convenience and that we spend all this money on overhead for our health.[/QUOTE]You guys sound like you know what you are doing. I think you place will do well. And I agree with you about the 10k cover charge. Although in the future you might want to look at instituting a small cover charge for the chicas as well once your place starts to become popular.

This did wonders to a small p4p club similar to yours called Clasicos (in Sosua, DR). This small cover kept out all the chicas that knew no one was going to pick them, and usually only the hotter chicas would pay to enter the club (because they know they had nothing to lose). The unattractive chicas would just hang around outside and pick off the cheapskates, LOL.

Yeah bro, me too.

Hope they like the dark meat in MDE too. LOL be there in 3 weeks for 11 days.

Can't wait!

[QUOTE=Infamous Man; 1444748]Thank savePro 4 the advice.

Yes first time in MDE.

Did the Sosua-DR so it's time to venture out.

Thinking Colombia then maybe Dubai or Brazil next.

How much is the taxi average

If anyone going to be down there as well hit me up.

29 yr old.

Blk male.

Average built

Dreads.

Down for fun / crazy times.

Hope the chicks love dark meat down there too.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for the books Savepros321. I think these books will be intriguing to some people on this forum. The Manipulated man is on my Amazon wish list. You saved me $10.95, I feel somewhat guilty. I suspect some of the men on this forum are feminists and thus might be offended by these books though.

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;1446080]Thank you for the books Savepros321. I think these books will be intriguing to some people on this forum. The Manipulated man is on my Amazon wish list. You saved me $10.95, I feel somewhat guilty. I suspect some of the men on this forum are feminists and thus might be offended by these books though.[/QUOTE]I enjoyed that reading as well.

Though I truly believe in equality and woman's rights, I do not believe or support super equality or the unfairness to men, in America anyway.

I will NEVER sign another marriage contract (castration) again.

Once in a lifetime is sufficient for me, cause fool me once...

I date younger girls in the US. They know they'll get some help, gifts, etc.

I am straight up honest though; marriage never.

Luckily I travel lots for work so overseas fun is easy and disguised.

Have fun amigos!

Time does really fly.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1446028]You guys sound like you know what you are doing. I think you place will do well. And I agree with you about the 10k cover charge. Although in the future you might want to look at instituting a small cover charge for the chicas as well once your place starts to become popular.

This did wonders to a small p4p club similar to yours called Clasicos (in Sosua, DR). This small cover kept out all the chicas that knew no one was going to pick them, and usually only the hotter chicas would pay to enter the club (because they know they had nothing to lose). The unattractive chicas would just hang around outside and pick off the cheapskates, LOL.[/QUOTE]Excellent idea. Help in Rio used to do exactly the same thing. I really think our biggest problem is going to be keeping the unwanted chicas out of the bar.

I will be visiting Medellin for the first time next month, staying at Aussie Greg's place the Mansion? (feel free to PM me if you any advice or something to share about this) , and I have a few questions. What are the best options for getting from the airport to the hotel, where is the best place to exchange my money. Will there be girls in house to choose from, I take it the mansion is somewhat like a Del Ray or Sportsman's in CR. Am I right on this, I know the mansion now has a bar so I take it there will be chicas there to choose from, or do you have to set things up with the chicas before you arrive via facebook. I know the owners of the two mansions offer to take guys on a casa run, does anyone know a good driver who can also take me to the casas in centro or Mayorista (sp?) on the weekend. Any other useful information you could provide that would make my first trip a success would be greatly appreciated. Feel free to PM me if you do not want to post it here. If any one else is going to be there next month let me know and we can meet up.

(A few pics of some Rio pussy as a way of thanking you in advance for the help)

If any one else is going to be there next month let me know and we can meet up.

Thanks,

Chris

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1446267]I will be visiting Medellin for the first time next month, staying at Aussie Greg's place the Mansion? (feel free to PM me if you any advice or something to share about this) , and I have a few questions. What are the best options for getting from the airport to the hotel, where is the best place to exchange my money. Will there be girls in house to choose from, I take it the mansion is somewhat like a Del Ray or Sportsman's in CR. Am I right on this, I know the mansion now has a bar so I take it there will be chicas there to choose from, or do you have to set things up with the chicas before you arrive via facebook. I know the owners of the two mansions offer to take guys on a casa run, does anyone know a good driver who can also take me to the casas in centro or Mayorista (sp?) on the weekend. Any other useful information you could provide that would make my first trip a success would be greatly appreciated. Feel free to PM me if you do not want to post it here. If any one else is going to be there next month let me know and we can meet up.

(A few pics of some Rio pussy as a way of thanking you in advance for the help)

If any one else is going to be there next month let me know and we can meet up.

Thanks,

Chris[/QUOTE]Hi Chris, read through the forums all your answers are right here, in a nut shell, getting down from the airport is up to your wallet they have a bus, that you would then take a taxi ones down in Medellin over to your hotel. Best exchange right now is a schwab card using a ATM that has a atm fee not built into it. If you need a cambio the rates are all over the place everyday here, I personally call around. Lately the Cambio in Laureles has been the highest by the mall out there on way to Nutibaro. The owner speaks english I call him to find the rate his name is Jeff and his cell is 317-435-7796. That hotel has Fernando he a great guy and driver for them, I have Jimmy. PM me for contact info if you want it. You can set up via facebook or just talk to the girls there at hotel. Useful info hit the ground running. Set some stuff up. Talk up chicks on FB. Enjoy yourself

Anyone know a cool chick in Medellin who speak English & has a Facebook page I can contact her on.

Let me know

[QUOTE=Chris Long;1446267]does anyone know a good driver who can also take me to the casas in centro or Mayorista (sp?)[/QUOTE]I think taking a driver with you to a casa is a bad idea. If anything just let him drop you off and you walk in by yourself. As long as you follow the basic casa protocol they won't know it's your first time.

You walk in take a seat in the waiting area then the manager has the girls line up for you. You pick one pay upfront then go to the room. You have just a few minutes to decide. I like to pull one or two aside for just a second to get a feel for what type of services they offer. There is hardly any time to do this so be quick about it.

Having a driver enter with you will only put a spotlight on you as being a noob. You won't get the respect and chances are you will be overcharged or pestered for tips.

These casa tours are goofy. There is no reason an experienced monger like yourself can't research the prices and locations and just show up. It's that easy.

[QUOTE=Infamous Man; 1446451]Anyone know a cool chick in Medellin who speak English & has a Facebook page I can contact her on.

Let me know[/QUOTE]
Sent you a link to the facebook page of a chick that speaks good english. Likes to party. Really likes to party.

Best of all she is an extrovert and will wing for you and get you laid by normal chicks. Very good chick to take to clubs and she knows them all.

And if you strike out you can always bang her for a nominal fee

[QUOTE=Cali Hentai;1445908]Most of the night chicks are pretty hot and the day time chicks aren't bad either.[/QUOTE]Wow and nice flaquita chica, where can I find her? Pm me if you would rather do that. Thanks

[QUOTE=Bart1;1446463]Wow and nice flaquita chica, where can I find her? Pm me if you would rather do that. Thanks[/QUOTE][url]Https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100005314178580&fref=ts[/url]

She is a typical daytime Mansion chick. Lots of flaquitas at the Mansion.

[QUOTE=Infamous Man; 1446451]Anyone know a cool chick in Medellin who speak English & has a Facebook page I can contact her on.

Let me know[/QUOTE]A chica that speaks English in Medellin. Good luck with that one!

I've met some of what would be considered educated Paisas in Medellin that speak English. But there were not pros. I haven't met a pro yet that speaks any intelligible English. But what do I know, only three trips so far. Maybe I will run into something this upcoming one.

On the flip side, any chicas that I've run into in Sosua that spoke good English were pretty hardcore and I would avoid them like the plague.

First, I want to thank everyone for the valuable information shared on this board. I have surfed many boards in ISG and I feel you guys provide more relevant information and are very willing / helpful with questions. Even the repetitive one's. Possibly mine! LOL.

Here's the deal; I'm planning my trip now. I have the exact travel days down. The way I'm going to split the trip etc. The problem is that I want to get the most value of my money. I'm not rich by any means, but I do ok for myself. The budget for my trip is roughly 5k USD. I plan to spend my first 5 nights in Medellin and the other 5 nights in Cartagena. My approximate costs:

Airfare: 1k.

Lodging: 1k.

Spending Money: 3k.

I know I'm fairly on point with travel and lodging expenses, but I wonder if my spending budget is adequate. I do like the higher end chicas. I know that it doesn't ensure any better service, but I'm not coming all this way for 6/7's. I want something I don't see everyday.

Also, I'm wondering if my time and investment would be better served in Brazil. My costs seem to be equal to Colombia. I'm booking my flight portion in the next couple days and I just wanted to see if I get some good opinions / advice that will help me stop f'and flip flopping. BTW, I'm a politician! Just kidding! LOL

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1446504]A chica that speaks English in Medellin. Good luck with that one!

I've met some of what would be considered educated Paisas in Medellin that speak English. But there were not pros. I haven't met a pro yet that speaks any intelligible English. But what do I know, only three trips so far. Maybe I will run into something this upcoming one.

On the flip side, any chicas that I've run into in Sosua that spoke good English were pretty hardcore and I would avoid them like the plague.[/QUOTE]Agree that it is very hard to find girls that speak english in MDE. I only found couple of girls in Fase II and one in La Isla. The odds are more in CTG but still not great.

Learning a little bit of spanish goes a long way but the girls in general are so friendly and they do their best to communicate, even if you do not know a lick of spanish. In fact, IMHO, Colombia is probably the best country to monger in if you do not know any Spanish, again, due to the friendly nature of the girls.

P. S: I have visited almost all of the Spanish speaking countries in the world.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1446564]First, I want to thank everyone for the valuable information shared on this board. I have surfed many boards in ISG and I feel you guys provide more relevant information and are very willing / helpful with questions. Even the repetitive one's. Possibly mine! LOL.

Here's the deal; I'm planning my trip now. I have the exact travel days down. The way I'm going to split the trip etc. The problem is that I want to get the most value of my money. I'm not rich by any means, but I do ok for myself. The budget for my trip is roughly 5k USD. I plan to spend my first 5 nights in Medellin and the other 5 nights in Cartagena. My approximate costs:

Airfare: 1k.

Lodging: 1k.

Spending Money: 3k.

I know I'm fairly on point with travel and lodging expenses, but I wonder if my spending budget is adequate. I do like the higher end chicas. I know that it doesn't ensure any better service, but I'm not coming all this way for 6/7's. I want something I don't see everyday.

Also, I'm wondering if my time and investment would be better served in Brazil. My costs seem to be equal to Colombia. I'm booking my flight portion in the next couple days and I just wanted to see if I get some good opinions / advice that will help me stop f'and flip flopping. BTW, I'm a politician! Just kidding! LOL[/QUOTE]3K USD for 10 days would mean close to 600, 000 pesos a day. That is plenty of money to do two girls a day, including a TLN each night. Sounds like a fun trip and my kind of trip. :-D

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2;1446564]Also, I'm wondering if my time and investment would be better served in Brazil. My costs seem to be equal to Colombia. I'm booking my flight portion in the next couple days and I just wanted to see if I get some good opinions / advice that will help me stop f'and flip flopping. BTW, I'm a politician! Just kidding! LOL[/QUOTE]Just my opinion:

If you can afford to go to Brazil then I would say go for it. We both have spent a good amount of time in the DR so I will say this:

If you like big asses (like I do) then you will be highly disappointed with Colombia. Lots of fake silicone asses, but nothing even on a "big booty Dominicana" level.

Where Colombianas have the upper hand is that they are very beautiful (whereas Dominicanas are "Sexy"). Also keep in mind that Cartagena is going to be completely different than Medellin. There will be chicas there from Medellin asking for almost triple what they would back home.

I still like to split my time between the DR and Colombia because I still have to have my "Big Booty" fix every now and then, LOL. But the minute I can afford to do Brazil how I want to then I'm there.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1446575]3K USD for 10 days would mean close to 600, 000 pesos a day. That is plenty of money to do two girls a day, including a TLN each night. Sounds like a fun trip and my kind of trip. :-D[/QUOTE]I have to eat / drink too! LOL

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1446564]First, I want to thank everyone for the valuable information shared on this board. I have surfed many boards in ISG and I feel you guys provide more relevant information and are very willing / helpful with questions. Even the repetitive one's. Possibly mine! LOL.

Here's the deal; I'm planning my trip now. I have the exact travel days down. The way I'm going to split the trip etc. The problem is that I want to get the most value of my money. I'm not rich by any means, but I do ok for myself. The budget for my trip is roughly 5k USD. I plan to spend my first 5 nights in Medellin and the other 5 nights in Cartagena. My approximate costs:

Airfare: 1k.

Lodging: 1k.

Spending Money: 3k.

I know I'm fairly on point with travel and lodging expenses, but I wonder if my spending budget is adequate. I do like the higher end chicas. I know that it doesn't ensure any better service, but I'm not coming all this way for 6/7's. I want something I don't see everyday.

Also, I'm wondering if my time and investment would be better served in Brazil. My costs seem to be equal to Colombia. I'm booking my flight portion in the next couple days and I just wanted to see if I get some good opinions / advice that will help me stop f'and flip flopping. BTW, I'm a politician! Just kidding! LOL[/QUOTE]More than enough money for 10 days in Colombia. Probably not enough for 10 days in Rio (at least doing it high-style). If you've never been to Rio, you must go at some point in your life.

I'm like SavePros. I. E. I generally divide my time between Colombia and the DR. But Rio is still my favorite place in the World (even if it's not as good as it used to be).

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1446578]Also keep in mind that Cartagena is going to be completely different than Medellin. There will be chicas there from Medellin asking for almost triple what they would back home.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1446564]Here's the deal; I'm planning my trip now. I have the exact travel days down. The way I'm going to split the trip etc. The problem is that I want to get the most value of my money. I'm not rich by any means, but I do ok for myself. The budget for my trip is roughly 5k USD. I plan to spend my first 5 nights in Medellin and the other 5 nights in Cartagena. My approximate costs:

Airfare: 1k.

Lodging: 1k.

Spending Money: 3k.

I know I'm fairly on point with travel and lodging expenses, but I wonder if my spending budget is adequate. I do like the higher end chicas. I know that it doesn't ensure any better service, but I'm not coming all this way for 6/7's. I want something I don't see everyday.

I'm booking my flight portion in the next couple days and I just wanted to see if I get some good opinions / advice that will help me[/QUOTE]If you want to get the most value for your money switch your plans to 9 days Medellin and 3 days Cartagena, that is if you are in Colombia for the women and can keep yourself entertained. Those women that are triple priced are worse with performance on average as well. I figure you will gain two days of cost savings from your shorter time in Cartegena. GL

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1446564]First, I want to thank everyone for the valuable information shared on this board. I have surfed many boards in ISG and I feel you guys provide more relevant information and are very willing / helpful with questions. Even the repetitive one's. Possibly mine! LOL.

Here's the deal; I'm planning my trip now. I have the exact travel days down. The way I'm going to split the trip etc. The problem is that I want to get the most value of my money. I'm not rich by any means, but I do ok for myself. The budget for my trip is roughly 5k USD. I plan to spend my first 5 nights in Medellin and the other 5 nights in Cartagena. My approximate costs:

Airfare: 1k.

Lodging: 1k.

Spending Money: 3k.

I know I'm fairly on point with travel and lodging expenses, but I wonder if my spending budget is adequate. I do like the higher end chicas. I know that it doesn't ensure any better service, but I'm not coming all this way for 6/7's. I want something I don't see everyday.

Also, I'm wondering if my time and investment would be better served in Brazil. My costs seem to be equal to Colombia. I'm booking my flight portion in the next couple days and I just wanted to see if I get some good opinions / advice that will help me stop f'and flip flopping. BTW, I'm a politician! Just kidding! LOL[/QUOTE]Don't know your dates, but Rio is off season now. Spend couple of days mid-week in CTG, rest in MDE. Your budget is for Brazil, good luck.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1446564]First, I want to thank everyone for the valuable information shared on this board. I have surfed many boards in ISG and I feel you guys provide more relevant information and are very willing / helpful with questions. Even the repetitive one's. Possibly mine! LOL.

Here's the deal; I'm planning my trip now. I have the exact travel days down. The way I'm going to split the trip etc. The problem is that I want to get the most value of my money. I'm not rich by any means, but I do ok for myself. The budget for my trip is roughly 5k USD. I plan to spend my first 5 nights in Medellin and the other 5 nights in Cartagena. My approximate costs:

Airfare: 1k.

Lodging: 1k.

Spending Money: 3k.

I know I'm fairly on point with travel and lodging expenses, but I wonder if my spending budget is adequate. I do like the higher end chicas. I know that it doesn't ensure any better service, but I'm not coming all this way for 6/7's. I want something I don't see everyday.

Also, I'm wondering if my time and investment would be better served in Brazil. My costs seem to be equal to Colombia. I'm booking my flight portion in the next couple days and I just wanted to see if I get some good opinions / advice that will help me stop f'and flip flopping. BTW, I'm a politician! Just kidding! LOL[/QUOTE]If you're going ONLY for the girls, I would stay in Mde the whole time and forget Ctg. The chicas in Mde are more beautiful, friendly, and less businesslike than Ctg. If however, you want to play regular tourist, then Ctg has some really cool things to see and do. It's the oldest established city on the whole continent. 1504 I believe. Oh yeah, and don't forget to visit Liquid Lounge;))

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1446564]First, I want to thank everyone for the valuable information shared on this board. I have surfed many boards in ISG and I feel you guys provide more relevant information and are very willing / helpful with questions. Even the repetitive one's. Possibly mine! LOL.

Here's the deal; I'm planning my trip now. I have the exact travel days down. The way I'm going to split the trip etc. The problem is that I want to get the most value of my money. I'm not rich by any means, but I do ok for myself. The budget for my trip is roughly 5k USD. I plan to spend my first 5 nights in Medellin and the other 5 nights in Cartagena. My approximate costs:

Airfare: 1k.

Lodging: 1k.

Spending Money: 3k.

I know I'm fairly on point with travel and lodging expenses, but I wonder if my spending budget is adequate. I do like the higher end chicas. I know that it doesn't ensure any better service, but I'm not coming all this way for 6/7's. I want something I don't see everyday.

Also, I'm wondering if my time and investment would be better served in Brazil. My costs seem to be equal to Colombia. I'm booking my flight portion in the next couple days and I just wanted to see if I get some good opinions / advice that will help me stop f'and flip flopping. BTW, I'm a politician! Just kidding! LOL[/QUOTE]I ruffled a few feathers two and a half years ago with my report #5826 on December 5, 2012 (12-05-10) in this Medellin thread wherein I said almost 100% of the women you'll find in Medellin who make themselves available for a fee are overweight and unattractive. I recommend you read it before spending hard-earned money on a woman-hunting trip to Medellin. I've been to Medellin a few times since then, but as a medical tourist (because of the sorry state of health care in the USA) , not because of the women available at what people call the downtown casas, Fase II, San Diego Grill, Luna Lunera, Abydos, Loutron, and all the others. Yes, I did find a woman with a perfectly pretty face but not a great figure who was better than a lot of girlfriends at Fase II, but I've been to Fase II since and couldn't find one woman who especially appealed to me among all those there, even after hanging around from about 10 pm to after midnight and talking with several of them. Perhaps Mr. Gogo, who flew into a rage at my aforementioned report in 2010, will be mollified to learn that in one of my subsequent trips to Medellin I actually found an attractive young woman (who I later learned is a single mom) at Abydos who made my heart pound a few seconds after she walked into the room. However, if you don't like overweight women, you'll likely spend hours going from one casa or club to another trying to find a lady who your heart desires or arouses your passion. Unless you're at death's doorstep or have lots of other money, I think your five thousand dollars would be better saved or invested for the future (not that today's interest rates, which are [i]negative[/i] Interest rates if you figure in inflation, are helpful). Having money in the bank you can fall back on if needed gives peace of mind and may enhance your life more than an expensive vacation that's largely for the purpose finding willing women you can't find at home. But if you're trying to fill a hole in your life caused by lack of intimate female company, and you've decided spending the money is worthwhile, but only if you can find truly attractive women, the place I'd go is La Jonqera, Spain, which is about a one and one-half hour drive north of Barcelona, or Privee Club in Tarragona, which is about a one hour drive from Barcelona southwest along the Mediterranean coast.

[QUOTE=Esteef;1446159]Excellent idea. Help in Rio used to do exactly the same thing. I really think our biggest problem is going to be keeping the unwanted chicas out of the bar.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I probably just didn't see it, but where and when are you going to open your place? Do you have a name yet? I live in MDE and you can count on me to come visit!

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1446564]First, I want to thank everyone for the valuable information shared on this board. I have surfed many boards in ISG and I feel you guys provide more relevant information and are very willing / helpful with questions. Even the repetitive one's. Possibly mine! LOL.

Here's the deal; I'm planning my trip now. I have the exact travel days down. The way I'm going to split the trip etc. The problem is that I want to get the most value of my money. I'm not rich by any means, but I do ok for myself. The budget for my trip is roughly 5k USD. I plan to spend my first 5 nights in Medellin and the other 5 nights in Cartagena.[/QUOTE]Yes, go to Colombia!

If you're new to the scene, it would help lots if you had someone to show you the ropes.

Either stay at the Mansion (or whatever it's called now) , have a guide, an experienced wingman or a good recommended taxista.

Just keeps you from wasting time and spinning wheels.

I agree with other posters, Cartagena though fun, will be more expensive and the girls more professional in attitude, especially if you're new to the scene and your spanish is not good.

Don't get me wrong, you'll have fun in Cartagena, however, you'll most likely miss Medellin a bit.

I travel to Brazil frequently for work. Lucky me, haha.

I love the Brazillian girls too, however, Colombia has it's charm for sure.

I say go to Colombia, you'll love it!

[QUOTE=Param Ahmad;1446708]I ruffled a few feathers two and a half years ago with my report #5826 on December 5, 2012 (12-05-10) in this Medellin thread wherein I said almost 100% of the women you'll find in Medellin who make themselves available for a fee are overweight and unattractive. I recommend you read it before spending hard-earned money on a woman-hunting trip to Medellin.[/QUOTE]Though I respect this guy's opinion, and you will definitely find some chubby and unattractive girls in Medellin / all of Colombia, you will definitely find some real beauties, and some real sweeties too.

Try not to fall in love.

Every place you go to visit, monger, vacation, live, etc will have it's share of beauties and not-so beautifuls.

Colombia, Brazil, Spain, Argentina, Thailand, etc, etc.

Go to Colombia, learn at least a little spanish, have a fun and positive attitude, be cool, and you will have a fantastic time.

I've been to Medellin and all over Colombia a gazillion times, and I love it every time, and almost always fall in love, at least once haha.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Param Ahmad;1446708]I ruffled a few feathers two and a half years ago with my report #5826 on December 5, 2012 (12-05-10) in this Medellin thread wherein I said almost 100% of the women you'll find in Medellin who make themselves available for a fee are overweight and unattractive. I recommend you read it before spending hard-earned money on a woman-hunting trip to Medellin. I've been to Medellin a few times since then, but as a medical tourist (because of the sorry state of health care in the USA) , not because of the women available at what people call the downtown casas, Fase II, San Diego Grill, Luna Lunera, Abydos, Loutron, and all the others. Yes, I did find a woman with a perfectly pretty face but not a great figure who was better than a lot of girlfriends at Fase II, but I've been to Fase II since and couldn't find one woman who especially appealed to me among all those there....[/QUOTE]It was nothing personal dude. It's just that when I'm in Medellin I see so many beautiful women that I actually start looking for ugly women and don't see very many. Glad you rebounded. Again, nothing personal and good luck in the future.

[QUOTE=Param Ahmad;1446708]However, if you don't like overweight women, you'll likely spend hours going from one casa or club to another trying to find a lady who your heart desires or arouses your passion.[/QUOTE]You must go to a different Colombia than I do.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1446880]You must go to a different Colombia than I do.[/QUOTE]He actually went to Columbia (DC).

I just went back to the post we had problems with in 2010, and it wasn't as bad as you make it sound. I didn't remember you or the post but I wondered why it so bothered you. I questioned you going from club to club with the same bottle of water then getting upset and leaving because they had a one drink minimum. Then you expected sympathy from the forum because you were being cheap. You also took the opportunity to sneak in a political point about your disappointment with our health care system, as you also did below.

My apologies still stand but please leave politics out of the forum. Have fun.

[QUOTE=Bbrocs;1445005]I saw jake twice recently with a client at Divino Cielo. The client was a older guy, to be honest I never seen someone look happier so Jake has to be doing something right. I live right over the bar sometimes, so when I came down the next night and walked by him and jake and two cuties were there. Again the guy was beaming. I have no financial anything to gain from jake so this is accurate. His client looked happy, I watched him while I was there the night before. Jake was attentive. No cell phone in hand. Helped him order dinner and took care of his client. I hate both girls and employees that over indulge in their phones on my time.[/QUOTE]Barry, thanks I appreciate it! Things have been a little slow since Eric went back to Clearwater but things are picking up as we get closer to the Festival. Once again I'm more set up for the single traveler who enjoys adventure as well as hunting for gals! Look me up online and make it happen for yourself!

Jake

[QUOTE=Param Ahmad;1446708]I ruffled a few feathers two and a half years ago with my report #5826 on December 5, 2012 (12-05-10) in this Medellin thread wherein I said almost 100% of the women you'll find in Medellin who make themselves available for a fee are overweight and unattractive. I recommend you read it before spending hard-earned money on a woman-hunting trip to Medellin. I've been to Medellin a few times since then, but as a medical tourist (because of the sorry state of health care in the USA) , not because of the women available at what people call the downtown casas, Fase II, San Diego Grill, Luna Lunera, Abydos, Loutron, and all the others. Yes, I did find a woman with a perfectly pretty face but not a great figure who was better than a lot of girlfriends at Fase II, but I've been to Fase II since and couldn't find one woman who especially appealed to me among all those there, even after hanging around from about 10 pm to after midnight and talking with several of them. Perhaps Mr. Gogo, who flew into a rage at my aforementioned report in 2010, will be mollified to learn that in one of my subsequent trips to Medellin I actually found an attractive young woman (who I later learned is a single mom) at Abydos who made my heart pound a few seconds after she walked into the room. However, if you don't like overweight women, you'll likely spend hours going from one casa or club to another trying to find a lady who your heart desires or arouses your passion. Unless you're at death's doorstep or have lots of other money, I think your five thousand dollars would be better saved or invested for the future (not that today's interest rates, which are [i]negative[/i] Interest rates if you figure in inflation, are helpful). Having money in the bank you can fall back on if needed gives peace of mind and may enhance your life more than an expensive vacation that's largely for the purpose finding willing women you can't find at home. But if you're trying to fill a hole in your life caused by lack of intimate female company, and you've decided spending the money is worthwhile, but only if you can find truly attractive women, the place I'd go is La Jonqera, Spain, which is about a one and one-half hour drive north of Barcelona, or Privee Club in Tarragona, which is about a one hour drive from Barcelona southwest along the Mediterranean coast.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your opinion. Traveling breathes life in me. I take multiple trips yearly and they are not all monger based. FYI, I'm a player by classic definition. I look aight and I got decent enough charm and game to get more women than I need. FOR FREE. I don't intend for this to come off arrogant; it is what it is.

I went to Thailand (Phuket, Bangkok) in March with my now ex girlfriend and I didn't partake at all over those two weeks. I went to Spain (Barcelona, Ibiza) last summer. Outside of Sosua, my trips are always real vacations with possibly some mongering tossed in. I definitely didn't need to monger in Spain. Especially Ibiza. Your view on things is really sad. Maybe you are advanced in age and see things differently. I definitely don't plan on doing this all my days. As a matter of fact, there are about 6 more places I have to tour before I get real serious with a woman again. I was married before and it killed me that I couldn't visit these places then. I guess I'm playing catch up! LOL.

This is play money. I have 401k, a trading account, mutual funds, and rental property. I invest for my future. More than anything, the past few days shows that I need to get the f*ck out of America permanently as soon as possible. It has always been my dream to live on an island or tropical area. I make sure to have a practical, realistic approach to what needs to be done.

[QUOTE=Esteef;1446676]If you're going ONLY for the girls, I would stay in Mde the whole time and forget Ctg. The chicas in Mde are more beautiful, friendly, and less businesslike than Ctg. If however, you want to play regular tourist, then Ctg has some really cool things to see and do. It's the oldest established city on the whole continent. 1504 I believe. Oh yeah, and don't forget to visit Liquid Lounge;))[/QUOTE]CTG, will be more relaxed for me. I plan to tour the city and surrounding areas. I like to club too. I will also use this time to recover some from Medillin. I'm a GFE type of dude, but I will temper my expectations. I read at least 100 pages on this forum so I assume I will be doing mostly the ST thing. I'll just adopt a Disneyworld mentality! LOL.

Thanks for your input.

[QUOTE=Fincaboy; 1446808]Hi,

I probably just didn't see it, but where and when are you going to open your place? Do you have a name yet? I live in MDE and you can count on me to come visit![/QUOTE]Liquid Lounge Medellin in Barrio Colombia. Grand opening Friday Aug 2nd.

It consists of 2 floors. Downstairs is the shiny wood dance floor with a couple of fun stripper poles, and seriously relaxing seating all around the walls. Also the big main bar. Upstairs is a much smaller bar with a few PC terminals for the chicas to get their Facebook fix :) There will also be a pool table, foozball, and maybe air hockey, and ping pong. The music will be quieter up there for better conversations, and the comfortable seating will be in abundance up there for couples to get to know each other's bodies;) We knocked out the front wall up there and created a outdoor patio "smoking" area that is blocked off from the rest of the bar. Clean, comfortable bathrooms are everywhere. Fast reliable wifi of course.

We are hiring a couple of party girls that the girls really like. Robert and I have known them for years and have watched them get the other chicas in a party mood when things get too quiet. Their "job" will be to ply the girls with Aguidente and rum to make sure things are never boring at LL.

We love the location. It is on a cul de sac with no other business' operating after 5pm. There is no reason for anyone to be on our street at night except to come to our bar. It is very private and easy to come and go from our place without anyone else seeing you. We are directly across from the Brinks Security company of Colombia. And of course we will have off duty police as our security with mobile access to the on duty police. We have security consultants from the local police precinct. That is all in addition to our bouncers who are retired police. We are located less than one block from Premium Plaza and two blocks from the "Industriales" metro station.

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[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2;1446966]Thank you for your opinion. .. .. .. .. More than anything, the past few days shows that I need to get the f*ck out of America permanently as soon as possible.[/QUOTE]I know it's off the thread topic, but I'm very curious about why you believe you need to or should leave the USA permanently, what happened the last few days to make you think so, and which countries you are considering, and the reasons for choosing that or those countries.

I'm in Medellin at this time and will stay for 1 more week. If anybody wants to hook up to go to different places to find the so beautiful "paisas" message me and we'll meet before for a beer.

[QUOTE=Esteef;1446676]If you're going ONLY for the girls, I would stay in Mde the whole time and forget Ctg. The chicas in Mde are more beautiful, friendly, and less businesslike than Ctg. If however, you want to play regular tourist, then Ctg has some really cool things to see and do. It's the oldest established city on the whole continent. 1504 I believe. Oh yeah, and don't forget to visit Liquid Lounge;))[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Esteef; 1447007]Liquid Lounge Medellin in Barrio Colombia. Grand opening Friday Aug 2nd.

It consists of 2 floors. Downstairs is the shiny wood dance floor with a couple of fun stripper poles, and seriously relaxing seating all around the walls. Also the big main bar. Upstairs is a much smaller bar with a few PC terminals for the chicas to get their Facebook fix. There will also be a pool table, foozball, and maybe air hockey, and ping pong. The music will be quieter up there for better conversations, and the comfortable seating will be in abundance up there for couples to get to know each other's bodies. We knocked out the front wall up there and created a outdoor patio "smoking" area that is blocked off from the rest of the bar. Clean, comfortable bathrooms are everywhere. Fast reliable wifi of course...[/QUOTE]Thanks, count on seeing me. What are the hours going to be?

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1446966]Thank you for your opinion. Traveling breathes life in me. I take multiple trips yearly and they are not all monger based. FYI, I'm a player by classic definition. I look aight and I got decent enough charm and game to get more women than I need. FOR FREE. I don't intend for this to come off arrogant; it is what it is.

I went to Thailand (Phuket, Bangkok) in March with my now ex girlfriend and I didn't partake at all over those two weeks. I went to Spain (Barcelona, Ibiza) last summer. Outside of Sosua, my trips are always real vacations with possibly some mongering tossed in. I definitely didn't need to monger in Spain. Especially Ibiza. Your view on things is really sad. Maybe you are advanced in age and see things differently. I definitely don't plan on doing this all my days. As a matter of fact, there are about 6 more places I have to tour before I get real serious with a woman again. I was married before and it killed me that I couldn't visit these places then. I guess I'm playing catch up! LOL...[/QUOTE]Sounds like you have your act together and are ahead of the game. I don't understand why someone, who knows nothing about your personal or financial situation, is advising you to cancel your vacation and save the money.

Will be visiting Mansion in about a week, just wanted to get an idea of quality of girls there. If anyone can PM some of the girls facebook pages just to get an idea. I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance. No worries I have no plans on friending them just interested on what they look like.

BTW off topic. When I look in Photo Gallery and see pictures other users post from other countries they monger and I keep seeing guys who don't use condoms when sleeping with these women. Am I the only one that thinks this is fucking crazy or do they know something I don't? Don't get me wrong I can't stand condoms however when mongering in different countries especially visiting casas that have regular workers it's just mandatory in my eyes. Please someone explain to me what I'm missing or are these dudes just crazy and / or suicidal?

[QUOTE=Fincaboy;1447153]Thanks, count on seeing me. What are the hours going to be?[/QUOTE]As of now 8pm-4am.

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[QUOTE=DmeHcg; 1447403]Will be visiting Mansion in about a week, just wanted to get an idea of quality of girls there. If anyone can PM some of the girls facebook pages just to get an idea. I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance. No worries I have no plans on friending them just interested on what they look like.

BTW off topic. When I look in Photo Gallery and see pictures other users post from other countries they monger and I keep seeing guys who don't use condoms when sleeping with these women. Am I the only one that thinks this is fucking crazy or do they know something I don't? Don't get me wrong I can't stand condoms however when mongering in different countries especially visiting casas that have regular workers it's just mandatory in my eyes. Please someone explain to me what I'm missing or are these dudes just crazy and / or suicidal?[/QUOTE]Dude, with your second question, you just opened a can of worms. Check every country thread and you will see this question come up over and over. The range in members of the community is very broad, ranging from those who are very safe sex oriented, to those who are knowingly infected and go around bareback all the time. It's all a matter of risk preferences. There are some places in the world that I consider relatively lower risk, and others higher risk, but that's just my opinion. Once you visit a place, as well as hang out on the boards and read what type of guys go there, you'll get a better sense of the "safety of sex" there.

Question about Liquid Lounge? Will it be like a terma in Brazil where all girls from Colombia are welcome to work there as long as they pass the interview with the owner, or is it just girls that you guys know that are invited to come. It would be cool if you put a ad in whatever newspaper escort wannabees look. Have you though about making it a terma enviroment where all the girls wear bikinis and you can grab ass a little to see how you click, and also see the merchandise before buying.

[QUOTE=DmeHcg; 1447403]Will be visiting Mansion in about a week, just wanted to get an idea of quality of girls there. If anyone can PM some of the girls facebook pages just to get an idea. I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance. No worries I have no plans on friending them just interested on what they look like.

BTW off topic. When I look in Photo Gallery and see pictures other users post from other countries they monger and I keep seeing guys who don't use condoms when sleeping with these women. Am I the only one that thinks this is fucking crazy or do they know something I don't? Don't get me wrong I can't stand condoms however when mongering in different countries especially visiting casas that have regular workers it's just mandatory in my eyes. Please someone explain to me what I'm missing or are these dudes just crazy and / or suicidal?[/QUOTE]See my reply in the Safe Sex section.

[QUOTE=CasualSex;1447039]I'm in Medellin at this time and will stay for 1 more week. If anybody wants to hook up to go to different places to find the so beautiful "paisas" message me and we'll meet before for a beer.[/QUOTE]Pm me I'm at Gran hotel

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1447827]Have you though about making it a terma enviroment where all the girls wear bikinis and you can grab ass a little to see how you click, and also see the merchandise before buying.[/QUOTE]That would probably require I different kind of license, LOL.

But if they went this route (which they have stated they do not want to go) then what would differentiate them between any other strip club or fuck house in Medellin (other than having only gringos there)?

There are already some Casas in Medellin where the chicas come out in lingerie (and topless at one I went to).

[QUOTE=Infamous Man;1448096]Pm me I'm at Gran hotel[/QUOTE]He's not a paid member, so he can't PM you.

But would you care to share with us how your first Medellin experience is going so far? I'm sure a lot of the members would like to know if a lot of the info we gave you has worked out for you so far.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1448112]He's not a paid member, so he can't PM you.

But would you care to share with us how your first Medellin experience is going so far? I'm sure a lot of the members would like to know if a lot of the info we gave you has worked out for you so far.[/QUOTE]SavePRO so far so good.

Linked up with Juan Carlos.

We been kicking it & exploring

I walked from Gran Hotel to Las Americas meet a sexy chic brought her back

Was just to get my feet wet.

Just came from New Life

Awesome place

There was 2 to my liking went with Michel.

I'm trying to find other Casals tried to go to Giesha but seems like they are shut down

Need some help finding places

The map works but when I get there

Some doors where locked

[QUOTE=Infamous Man; 1448114]SavePRO so far so good.

Linked up with Juan Carlos.

We been kicking it & exploring

I walked from Gran Hotel to Las Americas meet a sexy chic brought her back

Was just to get my feet wet.

Just came from New Life

Awesome place

There was 2 to my liking went with Michel.

I'm trying to find other Casals tried to go to Giesha but seems like they are shut down

Need some help finding places

The map works but when I get there

Some doors where locked[/QUOTE]Sounds good! Did you download the PDF of the chicas list posted by World Travel69 in the Medellin Lists forum? The last one was posted around Feburary this year.

Also, don't be surprised if some of those places have closed down already. News ones pop up all the time as well.

[QUOTE=Infamous Man; 1448114]. . . I walked from Gran Hotel to Las Americas meet a sexy chick brought her back

Was just to get my feet wet.[/QUOTE]What time of the night was this? Did you have to pay a 'take-out' fee? How much did you pay for your session?

Besides New Life, I recommend that you check out these locations (names on business cards can constantly change but addresses usually stay valid)

I enjoyed the quality of their line ups, last year . . .

a) Coffee Shop Cra. 45 #55-45 b) Chicas Punto Com Cll. 54 #49-97 2nd floor (one flight up is also a casa) c) Clube de Amigas Sexy Cra. 45D #57-67 d) Leidy Cll. 55 #43-72

they should be easily reachable from your hotel, the Gran Hotel (Cll. 54 #45-92)

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1447827]Question about Liquid Lounge? Will it be like a terma in Brazil where all girls from Colombia are welcome to work there as long as they pass the interview with the owner, or is it just girls that you guys know that are invited to come. It would be cool if you put a ad in whatever newspaper escort wannabees look. Have you though about making it a terma enviroment where all the girls wear bikinis and you can grab ass a little to see how you click, and also see the merchandise before buying.[/QUOTE]I wish they had to pass an interview with me.

No, we are just a regular bar / lounge, although we are keeping it semi private so we can keep the undesirables out. It won't be as controlled as the Mansion, and customers won't get far complaining to us, but we will listen and keep the girls out that the guys don't like. I doubt we will need to put an ad in the paper. As I've said before, having enough girls is the least of our problems. We are more concerned with having enough guys there to keep the girls busy. If they find themselves sitting around every night, they will stop coming.

[QUOTE=Almotu; 1448192]What time of the night was this? Did you have to pay a 'take-out' fee? How much did you pay for your session?

Besides New Life, I recommend that you check out these locations (names on business cards can constantly change but addresses usually stay valid)

I enjoyed the quality of their line ups, last year. .

A) Coffee Shop Cra. 45 #55-45 be) Chicas Punto Com Cll. 54 #49-97 2nd floor (one flight up is also a casa) see) Clube de Amigas Sexy Cra. 45D #57-67 the) Leidy Cll. 55 #43-72.

They should be easily reachable from your hotel, the Gran Hotel (Cll. 54 #45-92) [/QUOTE]Was around 12:30 am

They charged 40k take out.

Girl charged me 80k

Hey fellas, I have never been to Colombia and have absolutely no idea where to begin. I will make sure to read the forum well for as much info as I can, but just wanted some input from the vets here on what is a sure fire place for a newbie like me that doesn't even know where to begin.

By that I mean, I'll book a flight to Medellin. Then what? LOL. What hotels are the best for mongering? How close to bars? Which bars? How do the pick ups look? Been to Tijuana and that is the extent of my International Mongering. So this would be quite an experience I think. Not sure if it is like Tijuana where you walk in a bar and you are in business.

Is it the same in Medellin? Escorts the way to go?

Thanks for any help and tips at all.

[QUOTE=SlickVick; 1448428]Hey fellas, I have never been to Colombia and have absolutely no idea where to begin. I will make sure to read the forum well for as much info as I can, but just wanted some input from the vets here on what is a sure fire place for a newbie like me that doesn't even know where to begin.

By that I mean, I'll book a flight to Medellin. Then what? LOL. What hotels are the best for mongering? How close to bars? Which bars? How do the pick ups look? Been to Tijuana and that is the extent of my International Mongering. So this would be quite an experience I think. Not sure if it is like Tijuana where you walk in a bar and you are in business.

Is it the same in Medellin? Escorts the way to go?

Thanks for any help and tips at all.[/QUOTE]You are going to get a lot of "read the forum" backlash, but the bottom line is most newbies should stay at Medellin Plaza. They will take care of you and you will meet plenty of girls. Also, there is a new club opening called Liquid lounge where you will be able to pick out freelancers.

In about 3 weeks I will be in Medellin. Not staying at the mansion. Doing some Casa and FB chicas. My buddy (he is a brother) will join me a couple of days later. He is a riot but speaks little

Spanish but mine is pretty good. I find some of these FB chicas are cut throat negotiators and some even have a strict no BBBJ policy. WTF. Vince and others I wonder how you guys manage to not pay the mansion dineros for these mamitas. Your advise is much appreciated. I managed to get one or two off their high horses but there rest stand firm at 300. May be I will pony up. Someone was right, I hate to negotiate.

[QUOTE=EstebanH;1448447]You are going to get a lot of "read the forum" backlash, but the bottom line is most newbies should stay at Medellin Plaza. They will take care of you and you will meet plenty of girls. Also, there is a new club opening called Liquid lounge where you will be able to pick out freelancers.[/QUOTE]I know I might but wasn't looking for a step by step. But rather information like you just provided. Huge help to get started on and a starting point for research.

Thanks again

Hmm now I Never been to the Mansion.

But I'm guessing I have has a similar experience with that type of establishment.

When I went to Dominican Republic.

Now as a Newbie I know some guys get scared going Alone & Some guys don't want to be crowded on

A van or group situation while doing "Monkey Business"

Or having a ill sinful Fun.

Call it what you want

Here's my Advice.

I read all thru this forumn.

I did fine & been screwing fine chicas.

From La Mayorista all the way to El Centro casas.

Here's what you do if you want 1-1 guide.

Call Juan Carlos.

Had him pick me up like 8-9.

Explored places went to fancy restaurants.

Had him translate to many girls.

He even waited while I banged a few.

25k hr you can't beat that

I'm from NYC

So hiring a cab for a half a day to ride the city can cost you big $$$$$

It was WORTH it having him as a guide.

He rode the train

The metro cable.

N he drives fast.

He gets thru traffic

& YES.

Thank YOU guys for talking sense to MEE.

& Advising me NOT to rent a car.

Thanks for saving me the headache & $$$

P. S 25k is about) $12-$13 USD an HR.

That's pretty decent to have a personal Guide.

Watch your back.

Drive you where you want

Take you to places not covered.

& find you anything you heart can think of.

Don't be cheap my friend.

Be Happy

I'll be in MDE in 2 weeks and staying at the Mansion. I know I'll have access to the girls, but wanted to check out the FB scene. I've gathered a few contacts & numbers, but I haven't discussed any pricing with them at all since I'm not there yet. How do you guys approach that topic? Just be straightforward and ask 'cuanto cuesta para acompanarme? ' And go from there? I know that it's best to know the price before having them come out, but I'm sorta FB shy when it comes to the dreaded negotiation of pricing. Any help on this is much appreciated!

[QUOTE=USMatt; 1448464]In about 3 weeks I will be in Medellin. Not staying at the mansion. Doing some Casa and FB chicas. My buddy (he is a brother) will join me a couple of days later. He is a riot but speaks little

Spanish but mine is pretty good. I find some of these FB chicas are cut throat negotiators and some even have a strict no BBBJ policy. WTF. Vince and others I wonder how you guys manage to not pay the mansion dineros for these mamitas. Your advise is much appreciated. I managed to get one or two off their high horses but there rest stand firm at 300. May be I will pony up. Someone was right, I hate to negotiate.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;1448610]I'll be in MDE in 2 weeks and staying at the Mansion. I know I'll have access to the girls, but wanted to check out the FB scene. I've gathered a few contacts & numbers, but I haven't discussed any pricing with them at all since I'm not there yet. How do you guys approach that topic? Just be straightforward and ask 'cuanto cuesta para acompanarme? ' And go from there? I know that it's best to know the price before having them come out, but I'm sorta FB shy when it comes to the dreaded negotiation of pricing. Any help on this is much appreciated![/QUOTE]First of all most of the fb girls are pretty straight up. No way you have to pay them 300K. They will tell you it is all about "quimica." For the most part that is true, but how much depends on how much fun and how well you communicate, etc. If you want just straight up cut and dry, pay for play go to the casas or strip club. The fb girls are a lot of fun. 200k is about the most they are going to get. You are paying for drinks, food so much more than that and you should look elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Infamous Man; 1448558]P. S 25k is about) $12-$13 USD an HR.

That's pretty decent to have a personal Guide.

Watch your back.

Drive you where you want

Take you to places not covered.

& find you anything you heart can think of.

Don't be cheap my friend.

Be Happy[/QUOTE]Willisbestguidemedellin. Com.

William Zuluuga is a fantastic guide. He speaks English very well and he will even hang out with you and be your wingman. I would recommend him.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;1448610]I'll be in MDE in 2 weeks and staying at the Mansion. I know I'll have access to the girls, but wanted to check out the FB scene. I've gathered a few contacts & numbers, but I haven't discussed any pricing with them at all since I'm not there yet. How do you guys approach that topic? Just be straightforward and ask 'cuanto cuesta para acompanarme? ' And go from there? I know that it's best to know the price before having them come out, but I'm sorta FB shy when it comes to the dreaded negotiation of pricing. Any help on this is much appreciated![/QUOTE]Some ask directly for others you have to do the asking. I don't think there is anything wrong with that but avoid the ones that quote 300 sin BBBJ.

Thanks for the advice. I'm in my early 30s of Asian decent and look like I'm in my 20s, so I want to do the club scene and getting a FB chica would be ideal. Don't want to waste time trying to getatnon pros. I can also speak Spanish so communication isn't a problem. I understand the whole thing about quimica, thats why I want to get a couple of them to come out because they seem pretty outgoing and funny in the convos and look sexy and beautiful as well. But you're absolutely right about the cost of dinners and drinks that may exceed the actual price of just paying for sex only. I'm actually ok with that since I'm there to have a good time and not doing that every night, just the weekend. I'm still going to get my casa fix, but I like to enjoy my time with a chica and make her feel special. But I'm not going to break the bank doing that.

[QUOTE=Todasln;1448762]First of all most of the fb girls are pretty straight up. No way you have to pay them 300K. They will tell you it is all about "quimica." For the most part that is true, but how much depends on how much fun and how well you communicate, etc. If you want just straight up cut and dry, pay for play go to the casas or strip club. The fb girls are a lot of fun. 200k is about the most they are going to get. You are paying for drinks, food so much more than that and you should look elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Esteef; 1448241]I wish they had to pass an interview with me.

No, we are just a regular bar / lounge, although we are keeping it semi private so we can keep the undesirables out. It won't be as controlled as the Mansion, and customers won't get far complaining to us, but we will listen and keep the girls out that the guys don't like. I doubt we will need to put an ad in the paper. As I've said before, having enough girls is the least of our problems. We are more concerned with having enough guys there to keep the girls busy. If they find themselves sitting around every night, they will stop coming.[/QUOTE]Is there really that much gringo sex tourist traffic going to Medellin to support something like this? Or are you guys counting on alot of colombianos also patronizing your establishment?

I'm sure you guys have a few years on the ground in Medellin and have a good handle on doing business there, and have plenty of connections, but one has to wonder how real is the threat of some gang or mafiosos coming and trying to shake you guys down to pay for protection? Have you ever heard of this happening to any gringos down there, or any colombianos for that matter?

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;1448610]I'll be in MDE in 2 weeks and staying at the Mansion. I know I'll have access to the girls, but wanted to check out the FB scene. I've gathered a few contacts & numbers, but I haven't discussed any pricing with them at all since I'm not there yet. How do you guys approach that topic? Just be straightforward and ask 'cuanto cuesta para acompanarme? ' And go from there? I know that it's best to know the price before having them come out, but I'm sorta FB shy when it comes to the dreaded negotiation of pricing. Any help on this is much appreciated![/QUOTE]Hey Bro, I would not talk about prices on FB and I would not pay 300,000 unless it's spectacular pussy. I think you already know what the Mansion ladies charge. 150,000 st and 300,000 TLN. So if these hotties are available at these prices why go else where for the same quality at a higher price? The mansion prices are your leverage w / any other prepago in my view. Now if she is Selma Hyak then pay more by all means!

If you like Colombia and plan on returning get a phone. Also bring your camera and take some pics for the poor slobs that aren't there w / you.

Thanks for the info. I've heard that some mongers would flat out ask them through FB and some that would do it in person. I'm going to try both approaches depending on how I feel about the girl through our fb convos. There's definitely 2 fb hotties that I can tell are down to have fun and party based on their pics and personality from the convos. But since this is my first trip, I'm just trying all different avenues and hope for the best! I understand the price structure so I don't plan on overpaying.

And no worries about pics. I always find a way to take them, google glasses! LOL.

[QUOTE=Socker; 1448836]Hey Bro, I would not talk about prices on FB and I would not pay 300, 000 unless it's spectacular pussy. I think you already know what the Mansion ladies charge. 150, 000 st and 300, 000 TLN. So if these hotties are available at these prices why go else where for the same quality at a higher price? The mansion prices are your leverage w / any other prepago in my view. Now if she is Selma Hyak then pay more by all means!

If you like Colombia and plan on returning get a phone. Also bring your camera and take some pics for the poor slobs that aren't there w / you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99; 1449014]Thanks for the info. I've heard that some mongers would flat out ask them through FB and some that would do it in person. I'm going to try both approaches depending on how I feel about the girl through our fb convos. There's definitely 2 fb hotties that I can tell are down to have fun and party based on their pics and personality from the convos. But since this is my first trip, I'm just trying all different avenues and hope for the best! I understand the price structure so I don't plan on overpaying.

And no worries about pics. I always find a way to take them, google glasses! LOL.[/QUOTE]If you do your reading (hard to sift through the drama and cat fights, I know) you'll find that universally the Colombian experience is filled with disappointment from the famous Paisa Flake. Not coke! LOL!

These girls will tell you 100x times that you're all set, see you at _____ time at _____ place, and then, BLAMO! Nothing! Their phones are off, not on line or at a computer, no reply to email or text. Nothing! It happens with both pro and not pro girls so it does not matter where you meet them. In my experience FB or the once popular Romance Latina and Colombian Cupid (recently better for Non Pros IME) these girls are the biggest flakes! Probably because they have an inbox full of dudes hollering, a regular Western Union Novio showed up, or family drama (in Colombia there is always family drama.) so you're taking a back seat every time. If you do get back into contact with them you'll hear a rainbow of lame excuses! Excuses in the class range of "my dog ate my homework"! Hahahhha! Also if a FB / RL / CC brings a friend she's NOT a hooker so don't ask for a 3 some! She's a normal girl who's worried about a 1st date! Think like back home in the states.

With out blowing up your spot or the girls which FB Chicas you trying to holler at? If Chica_____ is a known flake better to have expectations tempered a head of time so that you can have a plan B, C, and D ready. Trust me my first few times I made the mistake of UNDER booking dates and contacts so I had to hustle to get my dance card filled. I 'm an old school guy, I like face to face best to get a feel for the girl like in a brothel line up. You can see a vibe, if she looks like a cold fish, or hot fucker. You know?

You should also keep in mind if you get a girls digits at a casa (New Life and Abydos IMO are or were the best value haven't been to La Isla but the reports are solid and Fase II is always the same hot girls but $300-$400 for short time I believe once all the fees are paid) and arrange a date outside you could save a few bucks but the girls 9/10 times have a kid so TLN or a long term date should be sorted out BEFORE you pay for the taxi. Also don't be a cheap prick like some of these Abuelo Gringos. Toss the girl 10-15K for a Taxi. You'll earn style points when you see her again. Everybody wants to chill and remembers the cool, fun, nice guy. Nobody wants to hang with the cheap prick dude. This is true in every facet of life not just working girls!

PS. Dude Google Glasses? Do they come with a caring case for the wearer to keep his dignity and self-respect while he's using them? And your Asian? Dude you got a Paypal account? LMK so I can send you $1. With that money you can go buy a clue! Google Glasses! Ninja Please!

I wanted to know. I am going to Medellin in September. But I am landing around 7pm. Would it be too late to activate a cell number and exchange money in the airport.

I think I know what you're trying to say and thanks for some of the comments. FB is just one of the many avenues I'm using, so by no means am I depending on it for chicas, so I don't have to overbook to make sure I'll get some because I know I'll get some somewhere, somehow my friend! I'm not the typical Asian American introverted and insecure geek, but I ain't no pickup artist either, just got a little pep on my step. BTW. The google glasses was just a joke, just in case you didn't get that.

I'm not a cheap prick, don't have any hygiene problems, look under 30, speak Spanish (not like a native, but good enough) , and have a decent wardrobe, so I'm sure there are some paisas out there for the wanting & hunting! Anyways, I'm just there to have a good time, so that's the best way to go about it without stressing too much about figuring out which FB chicas will show or not.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1449180]If you do your reading (hard to sift through the drama and cat fights, I know) you'll find that universally the Colombian experience is filled with disappointment from the famous Paisa Flake. Not coke! LOL!

These girls will tell you 100x times that you're all set, see you at _____ time at _____ place, and then, BLAMO! Nothing! Their phones are off, not on line or at a computer, no reply to email or text. Nothing! It happens with both pro and not pro girls so it does not matter where you meet them. In my experience FB or the once popular Romance Latina and Colombian Cupid (recently better for Non Pros IME) these girls are the biggest flakes! Probably because they have an inbox full of dudes hollering, a regular Western Union Novio showed up, or family drama (in Colombia there is always family drama.) so you're taking a back seat every time. If you do get back into contact with them you'll hear a rainbow of lame excuses! Excuses in the class range of "my dog ate my homework"! Hahahhha! Also if a FB / RL / CC brings a friend she's NOT a hooker so don't ask for a 3 some! She's a normal girl who's worried about a 1st date! Think like back home in the states...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1449180]These girls will tell you 100x times that you're all set, see you at _____ time at _____ place, and then, BLAMO! Nothing! Their phones are off, not on line or at a computer, no reply to email or text. Nothing! It happens with both pro and not pro girls so it does not matter where you meet them.

Colombian Cupid (recently better for Non Pros IME) these girls are the biggest flakes! Probably because they have an inbox full of dudes hollering, a regular Western Union Novio showed up, or family drama (in Colombia there is always family drama.) so you're taking a back seat every time. If you do get back into contact with them you'll hear a rainbow of lame excuses! Excuses in the class range of "my dog ate my homework"! Hahahhha! Also if a FB / RL / CC brings a friend she's NOT a hooker so don't ask for a 3 some! She's a normal girl who's worried about a 1st date! Think like back home in the states.

With out blowing up your spot or the girls which FB Chicas you trying to holler at? If Chica_____ is a known flake better to have expectations tempered a head of time so that you can have a plan B, C, and D ready. Trust me my first few times I made the mistake of UNDER booking dates and contacts so I had to hustle to get my dance card filled. I 'm an old school guy, I like face to face best to get a feel for the girl like in a brothel line up. You can see a vibe, if she looks like a cold fish, or hot fucker. You know?[/QUOTE]I am currently In Cartagena (My third trip here) and in the past I always underbook dates and hear some lame excuses,"I got a new Job and I have to fly to Bogota" because the Flake could not email and tell me this after we had arranged for me to fly here to meet her (as far as she knows for sure she is the only Chica I am meeting). I learned to play loose with information, not telling every Chica that I am arriving the same day. This time though it backfired on me. After striking out with first two chicas, and having a limited time here, I sent out multiple emails to chicas I had been talking to on Cupid, like an all points bulletin telling all these Chicas that I was in town, and made the mistake of sending my local number, so then I was having to blow off chicas and turn off my phone when I was with a chica. But its hard to know the flakes from the non flakes. But most are flakes.

I'm curious to know how you get in contact with Chicas on FB, I had great luck using Myspace years ago, but with Myspace in those days you could search a city and send friend request to every hottie, last time I sent multiple request to women I did not know in FB, they took my friend request privileges away for a while.

You mentioned a phone. I want to add that a month before I left, I bought a quad band double SIM phone off Amazon, it is an imitation Samsung Galaxy with the latest Android, then after I hit the ground in Cartagena, I bought a SIM from Tigo stand in the supermarket plus 100, 000 pesos in credit, so I have had a full internet phone and it has been a blessing to have, FB, Cupid, Maps, and the indispensable translator (for me anyway, my spanish is lacking) always at my fingertips. I have texted to USA several times, used data constantly, and after a week I still have 400, 000 pesos credit.

Spent 5 days in Medellin mid June.

Took 1 girl from Fase II.

Really like this place, expensive drinks and girls but most girls 8 or above, this was a single to my hotel. Performed well, even came back for a repeat performance the last night of my stay.

The next day another from San Diego, did not stay here too long, took 2 girls and scooted. 1 stayed the other left after we told her we would pay her after the services were completed.

The one who stayed gave 100% in the bedroom, since the other girl left we offered her to double her money if she performed well and she did, she took 3 guys for 5 hours, in various state. 1 on 1, 2 on 1, 3 on 1 all holes all ways she was a trooper.

Sorry have no contact info for either.

Prices, well I was with Colombian friends and they paid, lucky me.

Did have an interesting side trip to my friends girlfriends house way you the hill in the Bario Norte, We came out ok, but my Colombian friends went crazy with me when they saw the facebook photos I took. We left after dark (more scary) but the girlfriend brother drove us out. Not something I would suggest or repeat.

We went direct from here to meet friends at Mangos for the night, its a western themed bar, they had a crazy outdoor show that night. We stayed in the bar never went next door to the Discoteca. Spent the evening dancing with a big group of office workers who were there for a Hen Night.

Stayed in the Novelty Hotel, took one girl back, think there was a $25.00 extra charge on my bill. Great hotel, with very nice apartment type room.

Going back to Cartagena end of August meeting my crazy Bogota friend there for a long weekend of fun.

You mentioned a phone. I want to add that a month before I left, I bought a quad band double SIM phone off Amazon, it is an imitation Samsung Galaxy with the latest Android, then after I hit the ground in Cartagena, I bought a SIM from Tigo stand in the supermarket plus 100, 000 pesos in credit, so I have had a full internet phone and it has been a blessing to have, FB, Cupid, Maps, and the indispensable translator (for me anyway, my spanish is lacking) always at my fingertips. I have texted to USA several times, used data constantly, and after a week I still have 400, 000 pesos credit.[/QUOTE]Since, I'm not that up on the wireless technology, I was wondering if this phone could be used in other countries? Ideally, it would be nice to have a smartphone that could be used in multiple locations, and just switch the card. I keep acquiring shit ones, and leaving them wherever I go.

[QUOTE=Englishbobaz; 1450196]Spent 5 days in Medellin mid June.

The one who stayed gave 100% in the bedroom, since the other girl left we offered her to double her money if she performed well and she did, she took 3 guys for 5 hours, in various state. 1 on 1, 2 on 1, 3 on 1 all holes all ways she was a trooper.

Sorry have no contact info for either.

Prices, well I was with Colombian friends and they paid, lucky me.[/QUOTE]I call party foul! A Colombian what paid? For everything? Did he ride a unicorn and was the master of the Star Sword? Hahaha!

Just kidding, sounds like a great trip; thanks for the report.

[/QUOTE]Since, I'm not that up on the wireless technology, I was wondering if this phone could be used in other countries? Ideally, it would be nice to have a smartphone that could be used in multiple locations, and just switch the card. I keep acquiring shit ones, and leaving them wherever I go.[/QUOTE]

The reason that I bought this phone is that it can be used in almost any country (possible exceptions are Japan and South Korea). The "quad band" part means that it works on 4 "bands" which are radio frequencies that different countries operate on, most countries will be covered under a quad band phone. All the Americas. Europe. Asia. (I have seen reports that exceptions are Japan and South Korea) I'm not sure what countries it does not work in. If you are not worried about data and internet (I really like GPS maps and translator as well as looking having FB other social networks to check messages on the go) then there are even much cheaper phones you can get that are like the cheap ones I used to buy in other countries.

Just go to Amazon and search "quad band cell phones", the dual SIM card feature allows you to keep a local number in case someone needs to get in touch with you for home. Of course you have to buy a SIM card from some carrier at home for that. I like my phone because it hass the latest Android, as such I got the same Google services and back up features as my own cell phone (downloaded all my contacts and I had access to apps I had previously paid for. But after I bought my phone I read some bad reviews. (maybe a lot of people got lemons) I have no issues with my phone. But I have only used it for one week in Colombia. Loved it. But it is a Chinese knock off of a Samsung Galaxy. It does not have the Gyroscope compass sensor. But that is all I have noticed that is different. If you do not care about data you can get a small basic cell that has quad band capability for about $30.

In Amazon my phone has the heading : Unlocked Quadband 2 sim with Android 2. 3 OS (Android 4. 1 UI) Smart Phone 4. 0 Inch Capacitive Touch Screen Compatible with GSM carriers T-mobile Simple mobile (White)

The jury is still out beacause I have not owned (or used it) it long enough to be honest (some reviews said it stopped working after a couple of weeks! So you might go with a reputable brand instead of a chines knock off.

[QUOTE=Englishbobaz;1450196]We went direct from here to meet friends at Mangos for the night, its a western themed bar, they had a crazy outdoor show that night.[/QUOTE]I thought Mangos was closed?

[i]"Mango’s, Medellin’s most famous club among tourists, has closed its doors “to reinvent itself,” local newspaper El Colombiano reported Monday.

Club owner Jorge Lopez told the newspaper that the surprise closing is not definite and Mango’s will open in a new location in a few months.

According to Lopez, the wild west-themed club had trouble competing with other clubs that were offering discounts. “We can’t do that because we have 140 employees. We pay dancers and all that gets very expensive,” said the owner to the newspaper.

Lopez reportedly also blamed the closing on foreigners who “took up the habit of arriving with three or four pretty girls to show off while others proposed to dancers and employees or were trying to conquer other visitors’ girlfriends,” the paper said.

The Medellin club has become the city’s most hyped since opening its doors in 1998, but also became infamous over the high number of prostitutes attending the establishment."[/i]

[url]http://colombiareports.com/medellins-mango-club-closes-doors/[/url]

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1451003]I thought Mangos was closed?

[i]"Mango's, Medellin's most famous club among tourists, has closed its doors 'to reinvent itself, ' local newspaper El Colombiano reported Monday.

Club owner Jorge Lopez told the newspaper that the surprise closing is not definite and Mango's will open in a new location in a few months.

According to Lopez, the wild west-themed club had trouble competing with other clubs that were offering discounts. 'We can't do that because we have 140 employees. We pay dancers and all that gets very expensive, ' said the owner to the newspaper.

Lopez reportedly also blamed the closing on foreigners who 'took up the habit of arriving with three or four pretty girls to show off while others proposed to dancers and employees or were trying to conquer other visitors' girlfriends, ' the paper said.

The Medellin club has become the city's most hyped since opening its doors in 1998, but also became infamous over the high number of prostitutes attending the establishment."[/i]

[url]http://colombiareports.com/medellins-mango-club-closes-doors/[/url][/QUOTE]If foreigners were showing up with 3-4 pretty girls I would think that would mean they were buying a corresponding number of drinks, etc etc for their group. Not sure how that hurts business. Would it have mattered if they were bringing 3-4 fat cows, like a lot of Colombian guys seem to like? Also, how would trying to chat up other people's gf's or asking for p4p from the dancers or bartenders cause a business to have to close it's doors?

Sounds like bullshit to me. I never went there when it was open. Won't go to wherever they are moving to. In short, they can eat a bag of dicks. Try taking responsibility for your own business failings instead of just blaming the foreginers. Fuck if it was that bad just don't let foreigners in. There you go, problem solved. Would anyone really let one group of easily identifiable people ruin their profitable business to such a degree that they have to close?

If they would then they don't have the proper business sense to be in business. And 140 employees, really? How in the blue fuck did they need that many employees for a bar? Serious question, as I've never been there. Maybe that was part of the problem.

Also, the club owner outright says they couldn't compete with other clubs offering discounts. Sounds like they priced themselves right out of the market. Brilliant game plan parcero.

Just a general question for those with time and experience in Medellin visiting the casas. I'm in Medellin August 11-17 and I plan on enjoying the trip and getting the true experience. I'm visiting my new girl however while she is at work during the day time I want to play. I'm going to visit New Life and see what it has to offer. I read that the rates are based on time and the cost seems very cheap. My question is that if I was to pay for an hour and if I pop within say 15 minutes do I still get the hour for more pops or is my time done? The thought is that I am going in the late morning / early afternoon and after my session I will venture around the area and see what else I can do and then go back and bang a different girl.

Take it easy on me with the flaming. I know how the board works and I do RTFF. I am a member on the USA site for this and I do have experience in the US and in Barranquilla but Medellin is new to me and I know it is way different than Quilla. I'm staying near Sante Fe mall and by the looks of the maps, the action is well north of my hotel. Any pointers would be appreciative to this new guy to Medellin. Anyone that is in the area during my stay let me know and we can have a beer and shoot the shit about this fun place and experiences.

[QUOTE=Napalm; 1451032]If foreigners were showing up with 3-4 pretty girls I would think that would mean they were buying a corresponding number of drinks, etc etc for their group. Not sure how that hurts business. Would it have mattered if they were bringing 3-4 fat cows, like a lot of Colombian guys seem to like? Also, how would trying to chat up other people's gf's or asking for p4p from the dancers or bartenders cause a business to have to close it's doors?

Sounds like bullshit to me. I never went there when it was open. Won't go to wherever they are moving to. In short, they can eat a bag of dicks. Try taking responsibility for your own business failings instead of just blaming the foreginers. Fuck if it was that bad just don't let foreigners in. There you go, problem solved. Would anyone really let one group of easily identifiable people ruin their profitable business to such a degree that they have to close?...[/QUOTE]Oh man. Again with the Mangos convo?"eye roll". When stuff like this happens the truth is some where in the middle. At Napalm you make some very valid points.

Any food / service business needs a wide client base; Mangos was popular and some guys would bring their hookers there. Cool as they pay cover and buy drinks. But you just can't have "one type" of client. You need the locals with loot to spend from Bello, Itague, Ect. You're going to go broke looking to only have Some normal girls (in any country) would feel uncomfortable with this and not want to go back. You know the usual girl drama, shit talking, envy, competition for attention, and the biggie. To be accused or mistaken for a hooker in ANY country is super insulting to a girl! Basic night life rule; girls don't show up the guys won't keep coming back. Also this might be hard to handle for some of the members but it has to be considered. Regular people (Foreign and Domestic) don't want to see some delusional gringos with their hookers. Let's be real; seeing that shit is gross! Some Old, clueless, gringo, trying to dance! Both Funny and Pathetic! So yes hookers and their Gringo x Johns had some part in the failure.

Not having good business sense is the Colombian way! The old saying "10cent smart and $1.00 foolish" is the best way to put it. 140 employees even on the best nights is a bit much even if you're paying them all the minimum and taking a cut of the tips (I hear in Colombia an owner can take up to 40% of the tips! Please confirm.) but you know everybody has a cousin that needs a job. What Napalm wrote about his pricing also is to be taken into consideration.

Last. Behind the scenes. If they were getting shaken down by some gangsters, the land lord, partner stole some loot, got caught laundering funds, ect. Easier to blame the Gringos and working girls vs saying "Don Cesar and his gang are shaking me down for 60% so I'm out of buisness." and catching a hot one in the head. Who would you blame?

The jury is still out beacause I have not owned (or used it) it long enough to be honest (some reviews said it stopped working after a couple of weeks! So you might go with a reputable brand instead of a chines knock off.[/QUOTE]Outstanding advice. Thanks, for your help. I also see value in having access to the internet, maps; etc. I'm going to look at some different options, and I'll post on what I come up with.

[QUOTE=Razor77;1451062]My question is that if I was to pay for an hour and if I pop within say 15 minutes do I still get the hour for more pops or is my time done? The thought is that I am going in the late morning / early afternoon and after my session I will venture around the area and see what else I can do and then go back and bang a different girl.[/QUOTE]I remember very good fucking at casas. There were always more than 10 beautiful girls. I don't know if you can get more than one pop but I remember girls were very attentive about the time. If you pay one hour and you will make one pop after 15 minutes, girls will be with you for other 45 minutes and they will open wide their legs for all time you ask. But I don't know if you can get another pop.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1450869]I call party foul! A Colombian what paid? For everything? Did he ride a unicorn and was the master of the Star Sword? Hahaha!

Just kidding, sounds like a great trip; thanks for the report.[/QUOTE]I know what you mean.

[QUOTE=Razor77; 1451062]Just a general question for those with time and experience in Medellin visiting the casas. I'm in Medellin August 11-17 and I plan on enjoying the trip and getting the true experience. I'm visiting my new girl however while she is at work during the day time I want to play. I'm going to visit New Life and see what it has to offer. I read that the rates are based on time and the cost seems very cheap. My question is that if I was to pay for an hour and if I pop within say 15 minutes do I still get the hour for more pops or is my time done? The thought is that I am going in the late morning / early afternoon and after my session I will venture around the area and see what else I can do and then go back and bang a different girl.

Take it easy on me with the flaming. I know how the board works and I do RTFF. I am a member on the USA site for this and I do have experience in the US and in Barranquilla but Medellin is new to me and I know it is way different than Quilla. I'm staying near Sante Fe mall and by the looks of the maps, the action is well north of my hotel. Any pointers would be appreciative to this new guy to Medellin. Anyone that is in the area during my stay let me know and we can have a beer and shoot the shit about this fun place and experiences.[/QUOTE]At New Life you will pay when you leave. So if you want to bust a nut after 15 minutes, then stay for another 45 minutes and bust some more nuts that's your prerogative. Most all of the other casas you will need to pay first. The only place I have been that has actively enforced a one nut policy is Energy, near the stadium. In fact their prices reflect the amount of relaciones you can have during your time. All the el centro casas that I have been to, I have been able to hump until the knock. Or hump, bust a nut, take a shower and then get some more head or stick it back in until the knock. I've never tried busting a nut after just 15 minutes though, so YMMV.

I would recommend taking the 30 minute option the first time you session with a particular girl. That way if her service sucks, you aren't out as much time and money (granted it's not a lot of money but why not take her for a shorter test ride first). Also, if you're going to New Life, I hope you like big girls. Really big girls.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1451073]Oh man. Again with the Mangos convo?"eye roll".[/QUOTE]So Mangos is closed? What is or are the best alternatives left for a similar place?

I don't know the formal rule about it, if there are at all. But the de facto rule / custom is that your session ends when you pop "or" time ends unless you are a great conversationaslist in spanish. 1) just go for half an hour and you can extend the session if you want. 2) get the numbers of girls you like and invite them to your place. They will give you better services at your place. I did that with the girls at many casas, including Energy.

[QUOTE=Razor77; 1451062]Just a general question for those with time and experience in Medellin visiting the casas. I'm in Medellin August 11-17 and I plan on enjoying the trip and getting the true experience. I'm visiting my new girl however while she is at work during the day time I want to play. I'm going to visit New Life and see what it has to offer. I read that the rates are based on time and the cost seems very cheap. My question is that if I was to pay for an hour and if I pop within say 15 minutes do I still get the hour for more pops or is my time done? The thought is that I am going in the late morning / early afternoon and after my session I will venture around the area and see what else I can do and then go back and bang a different girl.

Take it easy on me with the flaming. I know how the board works and I do RTFF. I am a member on the USA site for this and I do have experience in the US and in Barranquilla but Medellin is new to me and I know it is way different than Quilla. I'm staying near Sante Fe mall and by the looks of the maps, the action is well north of my hotel. Any pointers would be appreciative to this new guy to Medellin. Anyone that is in the area during my stay let me know and we can have a beer and shoot the shit about this fun place and experiences.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1451073]Oh man. Again with the Mangos convo?"eye roll".[/QUOTE]I only brought it up and posted the article to determine if that guy just dropped a bullshit post on us. He said he went to Mangos when the place had been closed since 2012.

You've already cried "foul" on part of his report 😁.

[QUOTE=Napalm; 1451306]At New Life you will pay when you leave. So if you want to bust a nut after 15 minutes, then stay for another 45 minutes and bust some more nuts that's your prerogative. Most all of the other casas you will need to pay first. The only place I have been that has actively enforced a one nut policy is Energy, near the stadium. In fact their prices reflect the amount of relaciones you can have during your time. All the el centro casas that I have been to, I have been able to hump until the knock. Or hump, bust a nut, take a shower and then get some more head or stick it back in until the knock. I've never tried busting a nut after just 15 minutes though, so YMMV.

I would recommend taking the 30 minute option the first time you session with a particular girl. That way if her service sucks, you aren't out as much time and money (granted it's not a lot of money but why not take her for a shorter test ride first). Also, if you're going to New Life, I hope you like big girls. Really big girls.[/QUOTE]Are the girls at New Life really that bad? For the prices they charge it might be imaginable that they are not models for 38000. That's a huge difference in price compared to Energy. At least energy has a site to explain what options the have but sounds like New Life allows more time with girls. Energy allows to girls at once. Does New Life offer the same?

Thanks for the heads up. I'm looking forward to my trip.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1451326]I only brought it up and posted the article to determine if that guy just dropped a bullshit post on us. He said he went to Mangos when the place had been closed since 2012.

You've already cried "foul" on part of his report &62977; .[/QUOTE]Actually, one of the girls that I know invited me to "party" at Mangos. She is acknowledged that a Mangos had opened, but she hadn't been there. I never went to the old one and won't go to the new one, but I think there is a factual basis (albeit hearsay) that Mangos is open.

Only good energy!

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1451393]Actually, one of the girls that I know invited me to "party" at Mangos. She is acknowledged that a Mangos had opened, but she hadn't been there. I never went to the old one and won't go to the new one, but I think there is a factual basis (albeit hearsay) that Mangos is open.

Only good energy![/QUOTE][url]Https://www.facebook.com/discotecamangos[/url]

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1451393]Actually, one of the girls that I know invited me to "party" at Mangos. She is acknowledged that a Mangos had opened, but she hadn't been there. I never went to the old one and won't go to the new one, but I think there is a factual basis (albeit hearsay) that Mangos is open.

Only good energy![/QUOTE]Never heard of or been to this new Mangos, but I actually enjoyed the old Mangos the few times I went.

It was especially nice before the invasion, and a being a gringo was actually a good thing LOL

[QUOTE=Ricker;1451413]It was especially nice before the invasion, and a being a gringo was actually a good thing LOL[/QUOTE]I take it there are still a lot of chicas like this one that date gringos? [url]https://www.facebook.com/linalinita/photos[/url]

July 2013:

The quality of the chicas at the Mansion was outstanding. During a week when rooms were usually full with guests. 8 to 12 girls showed up every afternoon beginning around noon, and more during the evening. There were hardly any I would not have been happy to spend time and money with, several 9's and one 10. The Cueva bar is a huge improvement because the girls don't have to leave at sundown, and there are plenty of opportunities to drink, chat and dance as you decide who to take to your room. The standard remains 150K CP for a couple of hours, more for TLN. I have never encountered a CBJ, clockwatcher, or other such annoyances with Mansion girls. Spend some time chatting and you can usually get a nice GFE experience. If you don't see one you like on any given day, there are usually some fellow mongers who can call or Facebook others for you, or you can ask the management to show you the book. It hardly seemed worth doing a casa run or going to strip clubs except to get out and see for oneself how the lesser alternatives stack up.

Another advantage of the Mansion is the opportunity to meet other mongers and organize daytime casa runs or nighttime strip club runs. It's also a blast to get a few guys together to take 5 or 6 of the girls out to one of the discos for an evening. Assuming you can be cool (see previous discussion of the old Mango's) there is nothing quite like getting bottle service at a club surrounded by half a dozen young stunners.

Strip clubs: stopped in at La Isla (now renamed "The Girls") – This place is trying to be high end, up in the hills off Las Palmas above the Intercontinental hotel, nice furnishings, but similar stage setup to San Diego and Fase 2. I'm told by a fellow monger that the official price for on-site session is 180K Columbian pesos, but I chatted up a hot girl whose opening quote for a one hour session was 280K, then 240K. She hesitated at my offer of 200K and I did not pursue. About 20 girls, wide range from fugly to some 9's.

San Diego – there was a surprisingly big crowd of customers and chicas, and a couple of very attractive dancers; a wide range of chicas but definitely some very good ones. Paid 120K for a 30-minute session, cute girl, enthusiastic performer but CBJ.

Fase 2 – we saw probably 30 girls on a Thursday night, some of the usual silicone, but also some hot natural girls. Went with J, a stunning blonde girl-next-door type, a 10 in looks, who delivered a superior performance, albeit with CBJ. Rooms in the love motel next door are actually nice, decent showers, clean sheets and towels. Damage was 180K.

Luna Lunera – much lower quality than my last trip a few years ago, but it was a weeknight. Saw only one decent do-able chica, most were thick and / or not good-looking. We arrived near closing time (2 am at Luna Lunera, vs. 4 am at the other clubs). There were no girls on stage, and not many customers; it was disappointing.

At all four clubs it was fairly easy to collect phone numbers and / or FB contact info, assuming you can converse a bit in Spanish.

All 4 strip clubs mentioned charge a 10K CP cover charge. Drink prices vary, beer ranges from to 10K at Luna Lunera to 17K at La Isla. If you can't stand to pay $5 for a drink, you can get a bottle of water at most places for less. Or go with a group, pay 100K or so for a bottle of rum and avoid paying for chica drinks.

Did not try the Centro strip clubs, maybe next time.

[quote=Orgasmico; 1451422]I take it there are still a lot of chicas like this one that date gringos? [facebook link] [/quote]LOL, yeah when you see bikini photos taken at the Mansion pool on a FB profile that is usually a good indication.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1451422]I take it there are still a lot of chicas like this one that date gringos?

[url]https://www.facebook.com/linalinita/photos[/url][/QUOTE]That guy is one of most laid back brothers in Medellin. You have no chance with her. Period. None. If you are going to post links to Facebook, maybe just ones with known providers. The one you posted has been out of the game for a long time.

[QUOTE=Razor77;1451062]Just a general question for those with time and experience in Medellin visiting the casas. I'm in Medellin August 11-17 and I plan on enjoying the trip and getting the true experience. I'm visiting my new girl however while she is at work during the day time I want to play. I'm going to visit New Life and see what it has to offer. I read that the rates are based on time and the cost seems very cheap. My question is that if I was to pay for an hour and if I pop within say 15 minutes do I still get the hour for more pops or is my time done? The thought is that I am going in the late morning / early afternoon and after my session I will venture around the area and see what else I can do and then go back and bang a different girl.[/QUOTE]Generally speaking one pop and your done is the rule but that is only if you don't talk with the girl upfront about it.

The Medellin Centro casa scene is laid back. Just communicate your ideas beforehand. Before you pick a girl pull her aside and talk with her. Do this by telling the boss that you want to talk with her for a minute. Tell the girl that you might pop early, but it doesn't happen often, and if it does you are going to want to continue. Most of the girls will go for it. If she doesn't go for it, you probably don't want her anyway. Before you ask this question you might want to break the ice with her. Find something on her to compliment such as her eyes, smile, bracelet, fingernails, etc. Make sure to wear cologne also.

Any other concerns you might have, such as extending to hour after paying for an hour, just talk to the boss beforehand. GL

Well if we can't all be perfect, then what can we be.

I reported as I saw, Mangos was definitely there, I have photos. The place is located South East, of El Poblado next to the river. 7Km from the Dann Carlton Hotel.

Discoteca Mangos.

La Esmeralda, Itagui, Antioquia, Colombia &8206;

Found it on a google map.

That aside going to be in Cartagena end of August, anyone have any recommendations.

Who has been to Pattaya and Medellin?

Which one would you recommend and why?

Thanks,

Kamillo

[QUOTE=Englishbobaz; 1451694]Well if we can't all be perfect, then what can we be.

I reported as I saw, Mangos was definitely there, I have photos. The place is located South East, of El Poblado next to the river. 7Km from the Dann Carlton Hotel.

Discoteca Mangos.

La Esmeralda, Itagui, Antioquia, Colombia &8206;

Found it on a google map.

That aside going to be in Cartagena end of August, anyone have any recommendations.[/QUOTE]Will you be bringing the Delorean?

[QUOTE=Kamillo; 1451796]Who has been to Pattaya and Medellin?

Which one would you recommend and why?

Thanks,

Kamillo[/QUOTE]I guess I'm qualified to take a stab at that question. I've been to Thailand 20 times over 10 years, and Pattaya 17 of those. I have been to Medellin 15 times over 7 years. The answer is obvious. Both. They are so totally different that no one can say that one is better than the other. One my prefer one, but that doesn't make it better. Pattaya is way more wild and crazy. It is estimated that there are 20, 000 working girls in that town. But I think that the Medellin Paisas are better looking with more variety. And Medellin is a nice normal city if that's what one likes. There are many more things to do in Pattaya / Thailand. I'm sure this board is stuffed with all the fun things to do in Thailand. Still, these days I prefer Medellin. Especially because they have this new great club opening next Friday called Liquid Lounge.)

[QUOTE=Ricardo Torres;1451437]What a fucking idiot. I hope someone who knows you posts your facebook webpage, among other photos of you, along with your contact information. You just climbed to the top of the idiot list, number one, feel proud.[/QUOTE]It was a really stupid mistake. I see the page is down already. She must be really pissed and upset. What a wanker.

[QUOTE=Esteef;1451934]I guess I'm qualified to take a stab at that question. I've been to Thailand 20 times over 10 years, and Pattaya 17 of those. I have been to Medellin 15 times over 7 years. The answer is obvious. Both. They are so totally different that no one can say that one is better than the other. One my prefer one, but that doesn't make it better. Pattaya is way more wild and crazy. It is estimated that there are 20, 000 working girls in that town. But I think that the Medellin Paisas are better looking with more variety. And Medellin is a nice normal city if that's what one likes. There are many more things to do in Pattaya / Thailand. I'm sure this board is stuffed with all the fun things to do in Thailand. Still, these days I prefer Medellin. Especially because they have this new great club opening next Friday called Liquid Lounge.)[/QUOTE]I went to Medellin 4 time, to Lima 4 times but never I went to Pattaya and I'm very curious to get Pattaya in September. About South America I like both, Medellin and Lima. I like Medellin for climate and I like Lima for easiness in getting non pro girls. In Medellin this practice is harder.

[QUOTE=Kamillo; 1451796]Who has been to Pattaya and Medellin?

Which one would you recommend and why?

Thanks,

Kamillo[/QUOTE]


Its true I have never been to Pattaya or Medellin, but I have been to Bangkok, and Patong Beach In Thailand and I have been to Cartagena and Barranquilla in Colombia, so on a level of comparing Thailand to Colombia. It does depend on what turns you on, what type of excitement you are looking for and what shape of woman you like. There are some beautiful women in Thailand, but they do not have what I like. An hourglass 36-26-36 figure, the quality of the body on a woman that I like is not found in Thailand. So while I hear that Pattaya is wild and untamed, and the women are cheaper by far, as are the hotels. I just can not substitute anything for the quality of bodies of the Colombian women. Plus for me (I'm in USA) Thailand is a 25 hour trip,

I tried to delete this whole post, but the best I could do is change it to this.

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1451943]Its true I have never been to Pattaya or Medellin, but I have been to Bangkok, and Patong Beach In Thailand and I have been to Cartagena and Barranquilla in Colombia, so on a level of comparing Thailand to Colombia. It does depend on what turns you on, what type of excitement you are looking for and what shape of woman you like. There are some beautiful women in Thailand, but they do not have what I like. An hourglass 36-26-36 figure, the quality of the body on a woman that I like is not found in Thailand. So while I hear that Pattaya is wild and untamed, and the women are cheaper by far, as are the hotels. I just can not substitute anything for the quality of bodies of the Colombian women. Plus for me (I'm in USA) Thailand is a 25 hour trip,[/QUOTE]I've only been to Thailand twice, but on those visits, I most definitely found women with big booties and big breasts. It's true that on average, they don't have hourglass figures to the extent women in the West do. However, there are so many women in Pattaya (20, 000?) , that you will definitely find some that fit that description.

Pattaya vs MDE is comparing apples and oranges. You should do both.

Men, you may not know it but that opinion and information was priceless. And if others will contribute on that level we might solve the worlds. Problems. Haha

[QUOTE=Kamillo; 1451796]Who has been to Pattaya and Medellin?

Which one would you recommend and why?

Thanks,

Kamillo[/QUOTE]I would like to echo what has been said. You really need to visit both. They are just 2 different experiences, and it's difficult to compare them. You may end up liking one more than the other, but you cannot tell until you visit both of them, several times.

I made a sperm donation to a lovely Colombiana in La Mayorista this evening. I paid her 40, 000 pesos and tipped her 20,000. I can't remember if the room cost 20,000 or 10,000. Basically went went into the room and although she had the condom informed me she would to have vaginal intercourse without it. I can't remember the word she used for the condom.

Odd part is that I did not solicit the sans condom. She made it clear she wanted me to not use it. So, I proceeded to rail her and left behind a week's worth of sexual frustration. When we were finished, I asked if she had any children and she responded one.

I realize all of this is crazy. Condemn me if you must. Anyone have a similar experience in Colombia? I realize Mayorista is not the best area of town. Apart from my DNA, I did not leave behind any identifying information.

Also, the spot I found was a line of bars and cheap motels on Carrera 51, between Calle 85 and Calle 84A. At noon there was just one or two girls in one hotel, and by 8pm there were many more. I made my last pass at 11:30pm and the entire block was packed full of hookers, all kinds of sizes and shapes. They were wearing a sweet scent I like to call desperation.

So, my question is there another part of Mayorista, or is this block it. I saw a map some time ago, but I can not find anything anymore for Mayorista. If someone can give me a link, I do not mind checking them out and confirming the action.

[QUOTE=Mongerman69;1450570]You mentioned a phone. I want to add that a month before I left, I bought a quad band double SIM phone off Amazon, it is an imitation Samsung Galaxy with the latest Android, then after I hit the ground in Cartagena, I bought a SIM from Tigo stand in the supermarket plus 100, 000 pesos in credit, so I have had a full internet phone and it has been a blessing to have, FB, Cupid, Maps, and the indispensable translator (for me anyway, my spanish is lacking) always at my fingertips. I have texted to USA several times, used data constantly, and after a week I still have 400, 000 pesos credit.[/QUOTE]Since, I'm not that up on the wireless technology, I was wondering if this phone could be used in other countries? Ideally, it would be nice to have a smartphone that could be used in multiple locations, and just switch the card. I keep acquiring shit ones, and leaving them wherever I go.[/QUOTE]I got an activated Tigo line for 4,000 pesos at a local store in Poblado. I put a small amount of funds on it and have used the 3G Internet on my iPhone (old 3GS so no 4G) all day for 1,500 pesos. Bandwidth is about 2MB and I am using it to provide Internet access for my laptop. I also really like using Google Maps so I can see where I am at all times in Medellin. It's been helpful for riding the Metro and getting around in taxis.

I am thinking of getting a 4G data card for my laptop. Claro and Movistar have some crazy bandwidth backpages. Internet infrastructure in Medellin rocks.

[QUOTE=CultureShock; 1452816]I made a sperm donation to a lovely Colombiana in La Mayorista this evening. I paid her 40, 000 pesos and tipped her 20, 000. I can't remember if the room cost 20, 000 or 10, 000. Basically went went into the room and although she had the condom informed me she would to have vaginal intercourse without it. I can't remember the word she used for the condom.

Odd part is that I did not solicit the sans condom. She made it clear she wanted me to not use it. So, I proceeded to rail her and left behind a week's worth of sexual frustration. When we were finished, I asked if she had any children and she responded one.

I realize all of this is crazy. Condemn me if you must. Anyone have a similar experience in Colombia? I realize Mayorista is not the best area of town. Apart from my DNA, I did not leave behind any identifying information.[/QUOTE]I can only speak for myself, but if a had just met a street hooker strolling the block who was insistent upon not using a condom, I would strap on two of them! Actually, I probably would just say forget it and leave at that point. I don't think I could believably convince myself that "she doesn't do this for everyone", lol.

[QUOTE=CultureShock; 1452816]Odd part is that I did not solicit the sans condom. She made it clear she wanted me to not use it.

I realize all of this is crazy. Condemn me if you must. Anyone have a similar experience in Colombia? I realize Mayorista is not the best area of town. Apart from my DNA, I did not leave behind any identifying information.[/QUOTE]No condemnation here, just advice, protect the pecker amigo, yikes! Especially with street girls.

Either you're new to this sex game, you were never in the military and taught by your first Sargeant LOL, or your dad skipped this in the birds and the bees talk LOL.

Hope you washed up real good and took a strong leak, that what my first Sargeant taught us anyway, in case of slip ups haha.

Good luck.

PS, that area you described is the entire chica pick up section of la Mayorista.

[QUOTE=Englishbobaz; 1451694]Well if we can't all be perfect, then what can we be.

I reported as I saw, Mangos was definitely there, I have photos. The place is located South East, of El Poblado next to the river. 7Km from the Dann Carlton Hotel.

Discoteca Mangos.

La Esmeralda, Itagui, Antioquia, Colombia &8206;

Found it on a google map.

That aside going to be in Cartagena end of August, anyone have any recommendations.[/QUOTE]Yes, after they closed a couple of years ago, apparently they reopened a smaller version with the same name at the same location.

[QUOTE=Razor77; 1451364]Are the girls at New Life really that bad? For the prices they charge it might be imaginable that they are not models for 38000. That's a huge difference in price compared to Energy. At least energy has a site to explain what options the have but sounds like New Life allows more time with girls. Energy allows to girls at once. Does New Life offer the same?

Thanks for the heads up. I'm looking forward to my trip.[/QUOTE]New Life offers threesomes too. The difference in price is the location. Energy is in laureles. New Life is in Centro. Energy does have more flacas though. In regards to 2 nuts, speak to the girl beforehand. In my opinion, there are so many options. Do half an hour and go for a different girl.

The Mayorista is possibly the last place on earth I'd go raw LOL, those girls will turn a dozen tricks in a night if they have the opportunity. Not my scene as it is, but the couple times I have been I asked for plastic, paper and titanium condoms!

Two pops at a massage place, you might as well just have one and then come back when you're rested. You can always just add more time. There was a really beautiful college freshman at New Life some years ago and sometimes she'd get me going to where I'd get another half hour or hour with her. That was an exception though.

I am in MDE now but have mostly been with regulars. I did go to the little stretch of strip clubs in El Centro. Julieta at the Barra Ejecutiva has new tits and is still a slim, cute blonde who turned 20 not long ago. There is a girl with black hair who is also quite thin and shapely. I cannot recall her name but she will stand out. Pretty hot, her attitude seemed kind of dismissive but I wouldn't read too much into our introduction. Veronika is a full-figured, tall girl, which is kind of rare. Awesome attitude, if you're not hung up on having a spinner, go for it.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1452993]I am in MDE now but have mostly been with regulars.[/QUOTE]Can I ask how old are you to get regular girls?

[QUOTE=PianoPlayer; 1451426]July 2013:

The quality of the chicas at the Mansion was outstanding. During a week when rooms were usually full with guests. 8 to 12 girls showed up every afternoon beginning around noon, and more during the evening. There were hardly any I would not have been happy to spend time and money with, several 9's and one 10. The Cueva bar is a huge improvement because the girls don't have to leave at sundown, and there are plenty of opportunities to drink, chat and dance as you decide who to take to your room. The standard remains 150K CP for a couple of hours, more for TLN. I have never encountered a CBJ, clockwatcher, or other such annoyances with Mansion girls. Spend some time chatting and you can usually get a nice GFE experience. If you don't see one you like on any given day, there are usually some fellow mongers who can call or Facebook others for you, or you can ask the management to show you the book. It hardly seemed worth doing a casa run or going to strip clubs except to get out and see for oneself how the lesser alternatives stack up.

Another advantage of the Mansion is the opportunity to meet other mongers and organize daytime casa runs or nighttime strip club runs. It's also a blast to get a few guys together to take 5 or 6 of the girls out to one of the discos for an evening. Assuming you can be cool (see previous discussion of the old Mango's) there is nothing quite like getting bottle service at a club surrounded by half a dozen young stunners.

Strip clubs: stopped in at La Isla (now renamed "The Girls") – This place is trying to be high end, up in the hills off Las Palmas above the Intercontinental hotel, nice furnishings, but similar stage setup to San Diego and Fase 2. I'm told by a fellow monger that the official price for on-site session is 180K Columbian pesos, but I chatted up a hot girl whose opening quote for a one hour session was 280K, then 240K. She hesitated at my offer of 200K and I did not pursue. About 20 girls, wide range from fugly to some 9's.

San Diego – there was a surprisingly big crowd of customers and chicas, and a couple of very attractive dancers; a wide range of chicas but definitely some very good ones. Paid 120K for a 30-minute session, cute girl, enthusiastic performer but CBJ.

Fase 2 – we saw probably 30 girls on a Thursday night, some of the usual silicone, but also some hot natural girls. Went with J, a stunning blonde girl-next-door type, a 10 in looks, who delivered a superior performance, albeit with CBJ. Rooms in the love motel next door are actually nice, decent showers, clean sheets and towels. Damage was 180K.

Luna Lunera – much lower quality than my last trip a few years ago, but it was a weeknight. Saw only one decent do-able chica, most were thick and / or not good-looking. We arrived near closing time (2 am at Luna Lunera, vs. 4 am at the other clubs). There were no girls on stage, and not many customers; it was disappointing.

At all four clubs it was fairly easy to collect phone numbers and / or FB contact info, assuming you can converse a bit in Spanish.

All 4 strip clubs mentioned charge a 10K CP cover charge. Drink prices vary, beer ranges from to 10K at Luna Lunera to 17K at La Isla. If you can't stand to pay $5 for a drink, you can get a bottle of water at most places for less. Or go with a group, pay 100K or so for a bottle of rum and avoid paying for chica drinks.

Did not try the Centro strip clubs, maybe next time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. I was also unimpressed with luna lunera and la isla last time. San diego is now trying to compete in that market and probably doing OK since fase dos is a little shittier than it was. The thing I hate about san diego is their hounding you to buy a bottle, no matter where you sit, even if you're one person and you do not drink. That is extremely fucking annoying.

The chance is that you may meet a few girls there who would tell you that they would like to have, or don't mind having, your kid and encourage you to finish inside of her. This may happen after you repeat a same girl a few times.

[QUOTE=CultureShock; 1452816]I made a sperm donation to a lovely Colombiana in La Mayorista this evening. I paid her 40, 000 pesos and tipped her 20, 000. I can't remember if the room cost 20, 000 or 10, 000. Basically went went into the room and although she had the condom informed me she would to have vaginal intercourse without it. I can't remember the word she used for the condom.

Odd part is that I did not solicit the sans condom. She made it clear she wanted me to not use it. So, I proceeded to rail her and left behind a week's worth of sexual frustration. When we were finished, I asked if she had any children and she responded one.

I realize all of this is crazy. Condemn me if you must. Anyone have a similar experience in Colombia? I realize Mayorista is not the best area of town. Apart from my DNA, I did not leave behind any identifying information.

Also, the spot I found was a line of bars and cheap motels on Carrera 51, between Calle 85 and Calle 84A. At noon there was just one or two girls in one hotel, and by 8pm there were many more. I made my last pass at 11:30pm and the entire block was packed full of hookers, all kinds of sizes and shapes. They were wearing a sweet scent I like to call desperation.

So, my question is there another part of Mayorista, or is this block it. I saw a map some time ago, but I can not find anything anymore for Mayorista. If someone can give me a link, I do not mind checking them out and confirming the action.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1453155]Thanks for the report. I was also unimpressed with luna lunera and la isla last time. San diego is now trying to compete in that market and probably doing OK since fase dos is a little shittier than it was. The thing I hate about san diego is their hounding you to buy a bottle, no matter where you sit, even if you're one person and you do not drink. That is extremely fucking annoying.[/QUOTE]I'm glad to hear somebody else say this. Two and a half years ago I was excoriated by Mr. Gogo for refusing to buy drinks I didn't want in Medellin's clubs. I walked out of San Diego Grill when that demand was made rather than buy the drink. The entry fee at Fase II didn't bother me. I've been to San Diego Grill once since then and was there long enough to get a good look at the girls present and didn't see one I thought attractive. I have the same opinion as you of Luna Lunera. So far the only places I've had any luck finding attractive women in Medellin, at least among "damas de companera", have been Fase II and Abydos, and even at those two places it was only a minority of the time.

[QUOTE=Param Ahmad;1453171]I'm glad to hear somebody else say this. Two and a half years ago I was excoriated by Mr. Gogo for refusing to buy drinks I didn't want in Medellin's clubs. I walked out of San Diego Grill when that demand was made rather than buy the drink. The entry fee at Fase II didn't bother me. I've been to San Diego Grill once since then and was there long enough to get a good look at the girls present and didn't see one I thought attractive. I have the same opinion as you of Luna Lunera. So far the only places I've had any luck finding attractive women in Medellin, at least among "damas de companera", have been Fase II and Abydos, and even at those two places it was only a minority of the time.[/QUOTE]Have you checked out Loutron before? IMO, there is no other spot that comes close to having as attractive girls. I've always had a great time there, but I'm definitely in the minority.

I made another pass tonight through Mayorista and found a hot Colombian who was a lot of fun. She charged 25,000 pesos for an un-rushed half hour and I paid 25, 500 pesos total for the room and two beers. She agreed to the 25,000 peso rate before I bought the beer. They try to get the drink when you pay for the door. So, I am still not sure how much the room costs. I went to the same place as last time, the Cielo Azul.

This one was plenty of fun and was careful with the condom. I talked to her at length and she warmed up the more we chatted.

I'll take the advice of everyone and be more careful about going raw. However, I have a bad feeling these Colombians are going to lead me down the path of temptation.

Before coming back to Mayorista, I went into Poblado to get dinner. I ended up eating at the overpriced taco place on Parque Lleras. The asshole even informed me in English the tip was not included with the bill. Now, last night I went to the nice steak place and had a delightful steak wrapped in bacon. The service was excellent and I left a tip. However, I am not tipping at some stinking taco stand, least of all when I get solicited for a tip in freaking English. Also, while in the park some guy handed me a card for Fase II.

I checked out a club called, Blue on Calle 10. It's not a working girl house, but a pickup bar. I learned that nothing really happens before 10pm in these palces, but tonight there was a free comody show. I stayed for a half hour and enjoyed the show. I was about to go to B-Lounge for the Wednesday ladies night when I was turned away at 9:50pm. Again, I learned that the party gets started late.

So, I decided it was not worth staying out past the Metro operating hours on a Wednesday night. Last train south from Poblado leaves at 11:07pm. I am moving to a hotel in Poblado after the Festival de Flores, so I can explore the night life then without an expensive taxi ride every night. Five trips on the Metro cost 9, 000 pesos. The taxi from Parque Lleras to the Poblado station is 3, 000 to 4, 000 pesos. It's about a 15 minute walk. The walk from the metro is shorter to Mayorista from the Ayura station.

[QUOTE=CultureShock;1453231]So, I decided it was not worth staying out past the Metro operating hours on a Wednesday night. Last train south from Poblado leaves at 11:07pm. I am moving to a hotel in Poblado after the Festival de Flores, so I can explore the night life then without an expensive taxi ride every night. Five trips on the Metro cost 9, 000 pesos. The taxi from Parque Lleras to the Poblado station is 3, 000 to 4, 000 pesos. It's about a 15 minute walk. The walk from the metro is shorter to Mayorista from the Ayura station.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your report. Are you saying that you are trying to be closer to the night life in El Centro (by moving to Poblado)? Or will you be looking to hit non-pro spots in Poblado?

[QUOTE=Param Ahmad;1453171]I'm glad to hear somebody else say this. Two and a half years ago I was excoriated by Mr. Gogo for refusing to buy drinks I didn't want in Medellin's clubs. I walked out of San Diego Grill when that demand was made rather than buy the drink. The entry fee at Fase II didn't bother me. I've been to San Diego Grill once since then and was there long enough to get a good look at the girls present and didn't see one I thought attractive. I have the same opinion as you of Luna Lunera. So far the only places I've had any luck finding attractive women in Medellin, at least among "damas de companera", have been Fase II and Abydos, and even at those two places it was only a minority of the time.[/QUOTE]Sir, I don't think it's much to ask of a person to buy a 5usd dollar beer in order to enjoy the festivities. Those festivities include 20 women walking around naked and dancing naked, making themselves available to satisfy your sexual requests at a house price. They have a dj that plays music that needs to be paid. They have security that needs to be paid. When I was there, San Diego offered free snacks of peanuts and popcorn. If you were the owner would you allow people to come into your establishment and sit all night for free? Answer that question if you can.

San Diego was always the last stop on my nightly circuit. I would hit La Mayorista about 10pm. Then hit Luna Luneras about 11pm, with the next stop at 33 calle, where it's 3 strip clubs in a row. My goal is not to fuck but to hangout and get some numbers for a possible "Afternoon delight" before they work the next day. As I watch the girl perform at her club, she is secretly auditioning for me.

Then I fall into San Diego at 2am. I pay about 25 dollars for a bottle of rum and Coca Cola. I share with the girls that hang out before and after they dance. One trick I do is to put my chewing gum in the shot glass. This makes the girls go get their own shot glass and not drink out of mine, just don't know where their lips had just been LOL.

I still stand by my opinion, that only cheap dudes take the same bottle of water from club to club and balk at least buying another bottle of water.

[QUOTE=Paracite;1453183]Have you checked out Loutron before? IMO, there is no other spot that comes close to having as attractive girls. I've always had a great time there, but I'm definitely in the minority.[/QUOTE]No sir, you are correct about having a nice time there and that place having pretty girls but it's the "value" that most guys have issue with. In Mayorista $50K gets you an hours, $150K at the Mansion gets you several hours, $150-$200K gets you an hour at most every casa down the hill. At Loutron it's $240 (haven't been in years so it could be more or less) for what usually is a one pop, mechanical, non GFE type experience. As reported by many members for years.

There are just better values out there. Just saying.

I've been to Medellin a few times, but I've never been to anywhere interesting.

I'm staying in Poblado with a few people who would not be interested in this sort of stuff.

So can anyone recommend places nearby where I could disappear for only a short amount of time? I can find time day or evening, but I don't want to go all the way downtown, or to a bar that would then require leaving.

Something not too time consuming. Thanks.

[QUOTE=CultureShock;1453231]Before coming back to Mayorista, I went into Poblado to get dinner. I ended up eating at the overpriced taco place on Parque Lleras. The asshole even informed me in English the tip was not included with the bill. Now, last night I went to the nice steak place and had a delightful steak wrapped in bacon. The service was excellent and I left a tip. However, I am not tipping at some stinking taco stand, least of all when I get solicited for a tip in freaking English.[/QUOTE]Maybe the guy was an asshole but he wasn't an asshole for telling you that the tip is not included in the bill. It is common practice for the waiter to ask you two questions in the El Poblado area. Are you paying with cash or credit card and whether the tip is included in the bill. I always pay cash (efectivo) and have the tip not included in the bill (no propina en la cuenta).

GL

[QUOTE=CultureShock;1452819]Since, I'm not that up on the wireless technology, I was wondering if this phone could be used in other countries? Ideally, it would be nice to have a smartphone that could be used in multiple locations, and just switch the card. I keep acquiring shit ones, and leaving them wherever I go.[/QUOTE]I got an activated Tigo line for 4, 000 pesos at a local store in Poblado. I put a small amount of funds on it and have used the 3G Internet on my iPhone (old 3GS so no 4G) all day for 1, 500 pesos. Bandwidth is about 2MB and I am using it to provide Internet access for my laptop. I also really like using Google Maps so I can see where I am at all times in Medellin. It's been helpful for riding the Metro and getting around in taxis...[/QUOTE]My suggestion is the unblocked Samba from LG. Purchased from Best Buy.

Earlier this year, I was in Mexico City and San Salvador. The phone worked perfectly with Claro and Movistar SIM cards.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1453270]Thanks for sharing your report. Are you saying that you are trying to be closer to the night life in El Centro (by moving to Poblado)? Or will you be looking to hit non-pro spots in Poblado?[/QUOTE]I want to be able to hit the non-pro spots in Poblado. I plan to be here for several weeks, so am hoping to work it a bit and share my results here. The truth is where I am staying in Itagui (mayorista) is just 4 blocks from the Ayura metro station. It's a good deal easier to walk to the metro at Ayura than in Poblado, which is maybe double the distance or more with some really busy streets in terms of traffic.

The upshot is that if you stay in Poblado, I think you are really confined to that area unless you want to spend some serious money on taxi fare. It's fine for a short visit, but I would not want to spend several months there. Basically, Poblado is good for the regular nightlife and is not too far by taxi from most of the hooker night clubs. However, on the second point the same can be said about El Centro and Barrio Colombia. Both of which have some hotels close to metro stops and priced better than Poblado.

CS, Have you considered staying in El Centro? Or are you afraid!

Best place to meet ALL kinds of women. Best place for healthy home cooked meals. Great prices. And best of all, it leads to a healthy lifestyle of lots of walking around!

Good report

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1453516]CS, Have you considered staying in El Centro? Or are you afraid!

Best place to meet ALL kinds of women. Best place for healthy home cooked meals. Great prices. And best of all, it leads to a healthy lifestyle of lots of walking around!

Good report[/QUOTE]But you have to consider the air quality in el centro. Don't you think? When are you going back to Medellin?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1453516]CS, Have you considered staying in El Centro? Or are you afraid!

Best place to meet ALL kinds of women. Best place for healthy home cooked meals. Great prices. And best of all, it leads to a healthy lifestyle of lots of walking around!

Good report[/QUOTE]I took the Metro to the Parque Berrio Metro Stop tonight, and checked out the Conejitas Show Bar. There was no cover and a beer was 4, 000 pesos. Girls stripped nude and then went around asking for tips. I understand it's 50, 000 for a 30 minute session, but I did not have time.

The thing I like about Colombia is no one really bothers me. Despite the area downtown being a social wasteland, the street people don't seem to have too much experience singling out gringos for tip harassment. In Costa Rica the scum would come crawling out of the sewer to say, "hey one coin for me" in English. I was essentially invisible and ignored until met a friend and started speaking English.

A friend who is living in Medellin called me and we went for dinner. Best we could do in that section of town at night was a 24 hour chicken, fast food chain. Our conversation in English attracted some attention. Actually, this is the first time I had a conversation in English for four days. This area of town is nothing like Poblado.

I had inquired at the Nutibarra Hotel if they had a restaurant, and the answer was no. Then I walked around the corner and saw the big remodeling project and the outdoor cafe they are building.

Made it back to Mayorista before the last train, and pulled another girl, young flaca for 30, 000 pesos. Apparently the room does cost 20,000 pesos. I'll be moving out of Itaqui tomorrow, and staying Barrio Colombia. Too bad Liquid Lounge delayed their opening, because I picked a hotel close to it for the weekend. I plan to do more exploring downtown over the weekend.

Internet access at the hotel is constantly going down, but the tethered iPhone with the prepaid Tigo Chip is working great with 1.5 to 2.0 MB of bandwidth on the laptop. It's also great having Google Maps to pinpoint exact location on the phone when exploring the city.

Got a Claro prepaid 3G chip for my USB Datacard, but their network sucks for bandwidth. It includes a phone line and is interchangeable for a phone chip. Funny thing is the manager at the Claro store admitted the Internet service was poor before she sold it to me. I am going to stick with Tigo. I think the Claro 4G chips are not available yet, or maybe just not for prepaid accounts.

Rooms along the main drag - Calle 85 used to go for 12K for 30mins. (ie. Cielo Azul, La Amistad, Momentos) If you are staying in a hotel around the corner from the casino like Alcaravan, most girls will go with you without additional payment.

I just got back from a trip to Mombasa and I need to take care of things here at home. So I won't be doing much overseas travelling anytime soon.

You still stay at the Mayorista when you go back? Or have you found another place, or even considered my hotel in el centro?

Pm if you prefer.

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1453551]But you have to consider the air quality in el centro. Don't you think? When are you going back to Medellin?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]

There are plenty of good local restaurants around parque berrio. More especifically on botero park (where the fat statues). Always go for the "Menu del dia" which changes daily and is offered at a better price. There are also great restaurants around parque bolivar. And on the Junin pedestrian passage. All serve fresh food with healthy choices of soups, meats, poultry and fish. My personal favorite is one chicken restaurant on the beginning of the Junin passage from parque bolivar side, first chicken joint on left side if bolivar on your back (sorry can't recall the name) but they make the best (pechuga ala barrilla) grilled chicken breast: juicy and smoky.

As far as the pestering on the streets: It's not a biggie, usually I get it from the girls and I just ignore or smile and tell them I don't have and they bend their elbows pointing to it and giving me a frown (cultural for describing one as a hard person)

One thing I miss from stayin in el centro is the abundance of fruit stands and fresh juice / shake joints. Make sure you pick the ones which cover the fruit cups with plastic baggies and not the ones that has the bags at the bottom.

Anyhow. Too much talking here.

Enjoy your trip.

[QUOTE=CultureShock; 1453594]I took the Metro to the Parque Berrio Metro Stop tonight, and checked out the Conejitas Show Bar. There was no cover and a beer was 4, 000 pesos. Girls stripped nude and then went around asking for tips. I understand it's 50, 000 for a 30 minute session, but I did not have time.

The thing I like about Colombia is no one really bothers me. Despite the area downtown being a social wasteland, the street people don't seem to have too much experience singling out gringos for tip harassment. In Costa Rica the scum would come crawling out of the sewer to say,"hey one coin for me" in English. I was essentially invisible and ignored until met a friend and started speaking English.

A friend who is living in Medellin called me and we went for dinner. Best we could do in that section of town at night was a 24 hour chicken, fast food chain. Our conversation in English attracted some attention. Actually, this is the first time I had a conversation in English for four days. This area of town is nothing like Poblado.

I had inquired at the Nutibarra Hotel if they had a restaurant, and the answer was no. Then I walked around the corner and saw the big remodeling project and the outdoor cafe they are building.

Made it back to Mayorista before the last train, and pulled another girl, young flaca for 30, 000 pesos. Apparently the room does cost 20, 000 pesos. I'll be moving out of Itaqui tomorrow, and staying Barrio Colombia. Too bad Liquid Lounge delayed their opening, because I picked a hotel close to it for the weekend. I plan to do more exploring downtown over the weekend.

Internet access at the hotel is constantly going down, but the tethered iPhone with the prepaid Tigo Chip is working great with 1. 5 to 2. 0 MB of bandwidth on the laptop. It's also great having Google Maps to pinpoint exact location on the phone when exploring the city.

Got a Claro prepaid 3G chip for my USB Datacard, but their network sucks for bandwidth. It includes a phone line and is interchangeable for a phone chip. Funny thing is the manager at the Claro store admitted the Internet service was poor before she sold it to me. I am going to stick with Tigo. I think the Claro 4G chips are not available yet, or maybe just not for prepaid accounts.[/QUOTE]

Presently in Medellin for the first time and not knowing anything about Feria de Flores. All the hotels listed on Booking. Com including dirt bag places are charging obnoxious rates. I need habitacion starting August 7th for one week. I found a place in Itagui called Hotel Marco Delicias. Is anyone familiar with this place and associated prices and procedures for the working girls hanging ln and around the bars. Would anyone know the location of any internet cafes and the Allegre Casino. I am presently staying at the Hotel Egina.

Muchas Gracias

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1454887]As far as the pestering on the streets: It's not a biggie, usually I get it from the girls and I just ignore or smile and tell them I don't have and they bend their elbows pointing to it and giving me a frown (cultural for describing one as a hard person)[/QUOTE]The bending of the elbow and pointing to it or hitting it with the palm of your hand signifies "tacaño" which would translate into stingy or cheap.

Difficulty finding habitacion starting August 7th because of Feria de Flores. I was able to find vacancies at Hotel Marco Delcias in Itagui, however caja fuerte is only available in reception area. Is anyone familiar with this place and would like to comment on the procedures and prices regarding the working girls in and around the surrounding bars. I paid a visit to New Life and had a session with 22 year old Sarah. She required a 20,000 propina to perform BBBJ. I find the camas to be filthy in these casas. I am presently using a computer in the Hotel Egina. Does anyone know the location of any Medellin internet cafes and also the location of the Alegre Casino.

Muchas Gracias

[QUOTE=Zdavolos; 1455108]Difficulty finding habitacion starting August 7th because of Feria de Flores. I was able to find vacancies at Hotel Marco Delcias in Itagui, however caja fuerte is only available in reception area. Is anyone familiar with this place and would like to comment on the procedures and prices regarding the working girls in and around the surrounding bars. I paid a visit to New Life and had a session with 22 year old Sarah. She required a 20, 000 propina to perform BBBJ. I find the camas to be filthy in these casas. I am presently using a computer in the Hotel Egina. Does anyone know the location of any Medellin internet cafes and also the location of the Alegre Casino.

Muchas Gracias[/QUOTE]Bro it's basic common sense, during the most busy time hotels, apts, B&B, ect all forms of lodgings will be getting MAX dollars! Wow a hotel in the Super Bowl Host city is more than usual? You're kidding me? Hahahah!

How did you not sort out your accommodations before your trip? Try Hotel Alemeda on 10A (maybe 10) it's across from the Exito in Poblado. Clean nice and good wi-fi on the lower floors. Casino Alegre is on the top floor of Premium Plaza.

[QUOTE=Zdavolos; 1455108]Difficulty finding habitacion starting August 7th because of Feria de Flores. I was able to find vacancies at Hotel Marco Delcias in Itagui, however caja fuerte is only available in reception area. Is anyone familiar with this place and would like to comment on the procedures and prices regarding the working girls in and around the surrounding bars. I paid a visit to New Life and had a session with 22 year old Sarah. She required a 20, 000 propina to perform BBBJ. I find the camas to be filthy in these casas. I am presently using a computer in the Hotel Egina. Does anyone know the location of any Medellin internet cafes and also the location of the Alegre Casino.

Muchas Gracias[/QUOTE]The Alegre Casino is located in the Premium Plaza Mall on Ave. Poblado. Here is the complet address: Casino Allegre Centro comercial Premium Plaza, El Poblado Carrera 43A (Av. El Poblado) con calle 30. Third floor. One question why are you mixing English with Spanish on your report? Have fun and enjoy Mde!

[QUOTE=Zdavolos; 1455108]I was able to find vacancies at Hotel Marco Delcias in Itagui, however caja fuerte is only available in reception area. Is anyone familiar with this place and would like to comment on the procedures and prices regarding the working girls in and around the surrounding bars.[/QUOTE]
I believe that is the hotel above the casino Piruaga or something like that at the corner in Mayo. They were expanding that hotel to add more floors, and hence, more rooms, and should be done real soon. Read posts regarding La Mayorista and you should be ok. Generally, 30K COP for 30 mins, one pop, for one chica there. You pay more for BBBJ and anything else extra. Late at night, price drops to 20K or 25K COP. It is safe in that area. Just do not wonder around more than 3 blocks from that hotel.
Cheers.

[QUOTE=Average Joe2;1455253]One question why are you mixing English with Spanish on your report?[/QUOTE]That's what he wanted to use.
Cheers.

Could someone give a a quick run down on the best hotel to stay at which is girl friendly and in the action? I have read about the Mansion or Liquid lounge? Are these similar to the veneto in Panama? I have read the forum and it seems to be all around the Medellin plaza but any additional info would be appreciated.

A restaurant serving ceviche of Mackerel (sierra) , please let me know the name and location. Thanks a lot. Ps. I did not post on the food thread since it has been inactive for years.

[QUOTE]A restaurant serving ceviche of Mackerel (sierra) , please let me know the name and location. Thanks a lot. Ps. I did not post on the food thread since it has been inactive for years.[/QUOTE]If you are on C R T, look for a forum called COLOMBIA: Dining Experiences in Greater Medellin. Or send a guy named BlueDevil a PM over there. He would know for sure.

OK. Straight to the point. It's been 2. 5 days since I was robbed on my first ever night in MDE. I'll tell the entire story in a bit. I've since moved on from that experience and have enjoyed my trip and going on my 3rd day and loving it! Took me a day to recover from the bad memories and it was pretty much my stupidity and lack of common sense (and typical hornyness) that I got me in the situation. I didn't really want to write this report because it's still fresh and don't want to relive that horrible experience, but I think if I can help at least one person from doing what I did, then it's worth it. So here it is:

I booked 8 days at the Mansion (Plaza 1) and my flight arrived late at night, around 11:45pm. I had airport pickup and cost me 70,000 COP ($36 USD). It took about 35 mins to get to the Mansion, pretty much going down the mountains and got to see a decent view of the city from atop. I checked in and went down to the La Cueva and see if there were any girls or action, but being that it was already almost 1am, nothing much was going on. It's my first ever night at MDE, so I needed to get some action! So I took a taxi to La Isla and saw some hot chicas! Very beautiful girls dancing, chilling, and drinking. I'll say about 15-20 chicas. It's pretty much an upscale looking strip club for MDE standards, asked for some quotes. 240K for like 45 mins. No thanks. I'm sure I could negotiate, but didn't feel like it and I just wanted to get couple drinks.

I wanted to check out another area: La Mayorista. I know. I've read a lot about this place and being out there late at night by myself can be tricky or outright dangerous, but I like to venture out and I'm always careful. Nothing much there that got my attention. Not many chicas and talked to a couple and got quoted 40K for 20 mins and I had to pay for hotel room on top. It was basically one long street with girls standing outside ready for service. Not really feeling it, so I decided to go check out what else is available.

Me and the taxi drove around and saw a few SG's. I got one for 40K and asked for BBBJ and she was down. Got to a nearby upscale hotel and got a room for 25K. Everything was going well. She has nice DD's, but a little on the thick side. She asked if her cousin could come and have a 3some and bring some sugar for 30K. I hesitated, but being my first night. I had no sense of self control, so I obliged. Her cousin comes and brings the stuff and we enjoy ourselves. Got BBBJ from both of them.

Things went downhill from there. I drank quite a bit in the airplane, I'll say about equivalent to 5 shots and 2 more drinks at La Isla. Then I bought a small rum bottle for the hotel room, so the alcohol was kicking in for sure. All for the wrong reasons. I have a pretty good tolerance, so I wasn't drunk, but was caught up in the moment. So after the 2 got down on me. And I'm just on cloud 9. Then suddenly, the original is nowhere to be seen. The cousin says she'll be back. Then the cousin says she has to go and I was WTF? She told me to wait for the original girl. So I wait. Then the security guard asked me if it's ok to let her leave. I say, ok. Then I go check my pants (should've done that earlier) and nothing seem missing, but my watch (gucci). Stupid that I took it off in the first place, I thought I must of misplaced it, so I look around and nowhere to be found. I check my wallet and there were some cash there, but way less than what I had before.

They took about $800 worth of US & Colombian money. I rarely have that much cash on me, but I took the money out of the airport ATM and just was in a hurry to leave after I checked in and didn't put most of it in my safe. And that's not the worst of it. My iPhone 5 was stolen. That really was the boiling point. It was my life and even though I'll get a new one with insurance, I was going to use it for taking nice pics / videos. Effing sucks! So I'm just mad at myself because I should've known before and I'm not an amateur monger, but just too over anxious on my first MDE night. No need to feel bad about me. Besides that night, each day / night has been super!

I won't let this experience ruin the rest of my trip. If you ask me, would I still go to MDE if I knew this would happen? I'll say, except for my iphone being stolen, yes! No doubt! Everything that was taken is replaceable.

To let you guys know that I've moved on, last night, took 3 mansion girls and 3 of their friends to a club. Bought a bottle of guaro for 94K and it was enough for a 4 hr dance fest. 90% Colombian / Latino music and 10% American. Lots of super hot babes in that place (F. Ridiculously hot and just the way these girls dress. Unbelievable! One guy with 6 chicas got a lot of attention, but fine by me! Saw a few young gringos trying to game the club girls. Glad I don't need to do that! Almost everyone were in the 18-25 range and I look under 30, so I don't have the old gringo look about me. I'll write up more about my progress later on and I'm sure I missed lots of other details, but for now, back to more fun!

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; 1455753]That's what he wanted to use.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Muchas thank you for the respuestas.

Salud.

Rice, you don't have to worry about us getting robbed like you. None of us would bring a Gucci watch to Fing Colombia, and most won't bring their iphone 5. You couldn't keep that watch home or at least leave the watch and phone at the mansion when before went out drinking. Also, why would you bring your whole wad of money out with you. 800.00 is a lot. Bring 200 and your CC. You must have absolutely zero common sense. I hate to ream you like this but you deserve it.

First let me say; good for you that you're not letting this first negative experience shade your trip. A lesser man would be constantly crying int his beer and would stop bitching about all of the drama. I commend you on that. That was a very negative experience! Good to see some people on this planet with good energy!

Second; 6 girls in the club? Let see! Hahhahha! Yeah man when I go (or used) go clubbing and would see the struggling back packer crews try to get in with dirty tee shirts, hair all ratty and flip flops I'd just laugh and laugh! You couldn't get into a nice club in NYC, South Beach, Chi-town, or LA dressed like so what make you think that will work for in the super shallow and image aware South America? The ones in the club struggling to pick up chicas with no Spanish skills are the best! There should be a TV show called "Clueless Backpacker Gringo x Club Fails" LOL!

Pics please of your Club Team! Did you session with all of them? If yes reviews and don't forget the PICS! Hahaha!

Third; You are correct and it's important to share bad reviews just as it is to share good ones. Sorry you got taken for about $1000, you still got 10 fingers and 10 toes so in the true game of life you lost nothing! Let's take a second to break this down. For everybody's benefit.

When I was in China a few years ago the group I was with wanted to go explore the parking lot as we waited for our transport. A Fucking Airport parking lot! What the fuck you think you going to see in a Chinese parking lot other than parking spaces and cars? Stupid gringos! Hahaahha! But seriously I can understand being fired up to get into the Party Scene of Colombia but we can all gain from your negative experience. This is text book fucking up in Colombia! Hahahaha! (not to dog pile on you bro but like I said above; we all can learn from this and we Need to be extra clear for all the old stupid gringos with reading comprehension and eye sight problems here on the boards heheheheh!)

The Big one is excitement trumped common sense. Be calm and aware of your situation is rule #1 on the road in any travel situation. The rest of your cluck ups: drinking too much, rolling solo your first night or rather first few hours, Rolling solo super late at night, coke is a hell of a drug! A fun one but it lends for stupidity in stupid situations (I assume the second girl brought the coke or I might have read the innuendo myself) , Having $800 cash on you for no good reason / no need for that much loot other than going to a Casino (you planning on 1000x Blow Jobs? 2 OZ of coke? 10,000 Viagras for the homies back in the states?) Pretty sure $800 is like 3 months wages for an average Colombian so everybody would test you for that much! Let's see. Oh yeah. Pussy greedy! You got pussy greedy!"I'm in Colombia with this PYT and she has a hot girlfriend that is down to make all my porn star fantasy come true for like $40! Fuck yeah!" They seen you coming for miles! You had a target on your chest and back! Target: Chinese (Asian Gringo) stinking like booze, broken Spanish, horny as fuck, pockets bulging with stacks of loot, and IMO the most stupid thing you did was rocking a Guccy watch! Why!

Fancy watches, gold chains, rings, jewelry, fancy shit. Leave that at home ya'll! Everybody leave all the usual "Look at me! Look at how Baller I am! Look at my VIP table in the Club!" at home! As a foreigner in any country you already stand out to begin with so there is no need to separate yourself further! This is equal to the Fattest, Slowest, Water Buffalo at the watering hole putting on lion attract perfume. You already a target do not make yourself out to be the best possible target! Hahahah! Cash, credit cards, passport and a Gucci watch that costs 5-8 months wages for a Colombian? Wow. Christmas come early! See what I"m saying? A gold chain and watch is a sure pay day! A girl might hope you have a few bucks but when the know they can take you for a few bucks and a clear as day bonus you going to get got!

It should also be mentioned that "Pussy Greedy" is a common factor in guys getting Got! From everything I've been told first hand and most of the stories here it is always when some gringo gets Pussy Greedy and has two or more girls in the mix that they get robbed. It's easier to pull a scam when you are in a team, safer for them too. If you need to have a 3 some do it with a girl that has good reviws or that you've taken a few times so you have a dynamic with her. You know. Use some common sense! Hahahah!

Thanks for the report bro! Hope you have some better ones to report back with and some pics! Holla!

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99; 1456172]OK. Straight to the point. It's been 2. 5 days since I was robbed on my first ever night in MDE. I'll tell the entire story in a bit. I've since moved on from that experience and have enjoyed my trip and going on my 3rd day and loving it! Took me a day to recover from the bad memories and it was pretty much my stupidity and lack of common sense (and typical hornyness) that I got me in the situation. I didn't really want to write this report because it's still fresh and don't want to relive that horrible experience, but I think if I can help at least one person from doing what I did, then it's worth it. So here it is:

I booked 8 days at the Mansion (Plaza 1) and my flight arrived late at night, around 11:45pm. I had airport pickup and cost me 70, 000 COP ($36 USD). It took about 35 mins to get to the Mansion, pretty much going down the mountains and got to see a decent view of the city from atop. I checked in and went down to the La Cueva and see if there were any girls or action, but being that it was already almost 1am, nothing much was going on. It's my first ever night at MDE, so I needed to get some action! So I took a taxi to La Isla and saw some hot chicas! Very beautiful girls dancing, chilling, and drinking...[/QUOTE]

You may want to reconsider.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;1456172]I'll write up more about my progress later on [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]You may want to reconsider.[/QUOTE]The post wouldn't have been that bad if he could have told us where he was exactly and who he was with.

[QUOTE=Cali Hentai;1456475]The post wouldn't have been that bad if he could have told us where he was exactly and who he was with.[/QUOTE]Doesn't matter, he wasnt hurt thats the important thing. I hope he does some serious self evaluation. He makes so many mistakes that it was going to happen eventually. A new city, you should always have your guard up. You always take the side of caution. His drunkenness and horniness almost cost him serious harm.

Why take 800usd out when you have a room safe? This is Colombia at 1am on your first night. The girl took the lead after she sized him up. Gucci watch, iphone, first night, and drunk and horny. Why take the iphone out with you? I have an unlocked htc one that I travel with internationally that cost 120usd and it takes great videos and pics. Memo; guys that have new iphones don't take them out in foreign countries, you can get killed over them.

Guys don't let girls call friends at 2am, you will probably get nothing but trouble. Guys when you are drinking and reach a certain level, start watering yourself down. Don't get drunk and take on new people, its probably best to just hang out. Know your limits when away from home.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;1456172]OK. Straight to the point.[/QUOTE]Thanks, appeciate the honesty. Too many people make crazy safety comparisons with other cities, its good to see an honest report.

But jeez $800, gucci watch and iphone. Sorry to hear that, lessons for us all I'd say.

As a professional monger (if such a thing is possible) I wouldn't dream of taking a gucci watch with me to a monger destination. Or indeed any jewellery, medallions, bracelets, tie pins or cufflinks.

And generally I take enough cash for the evening plus enough to pay for one hoe, allowing enough to be able to indulge in some pretty piggy behaviour with her. But no more than that.

Remember the hoe's think you're a gentleman if you don't actually punch them and do pay them something. You don't need a gucci watch and ipad to stake a claim on her ass, just a few greenbacks.

Iphone. These are world class objects of desire, again I'd probably take either a cheapo "burner" as I've learnt they're called, probably with a local sim card to boot, thus you can keep in touch, pay the low local rates, and not have your regular phone contacts polluted with dozens of wierd calls and texts from girls with latin names.

Long ago I gave up getting wrecked on a mongering trip, I don't mind a beer or two but I got to keep a sharp mind. You think you're choosing them? Bear in mind they're choosing what to do with you, based on your physical presence, characteristics and sobriety.

As insurance I practice other tricks, such as putting a few dollars in a shoe. Always walking in the light by the road. Always keeping an eye for one guy coming one way and another coming another way, avoiding any footpad pincer movement.

And always get the cab fare up front. And don't ever believe "up to you", get the price, for the services you want, hammered down first. More recently I've taken to arranging safe short time accommodation earlier in the day and then connecting up with the hoe's later, that way I know where I'm going and the likely risks, even the basic geography of the area.

Never say you've just arrive or its your first day, always make out you've been there several weeks and will stay a few weeks more.

Its a bore being hyper careful on vacation, but the alternative is worse. Better luck for the rest of your time in Medellin.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99; 1456172]. Effing sucks! So I'm just mad at myself because I should've known before and I'm not an amateur monger, but just too over anxious on my first MDE night. No need to feel bad about me. Besides that night, each day / night has been super!

I won't let this experience ruin the rest of my trip. If you ask me, would I still go to MDE if I knew this would happen? I'll say, except for my iphone being stolen, yes! No doubt! Everything that was taken is replaceable.[/QUOTE]Yikes! Sorry to hear about your bad experience, and good of you to post of your follies so maybe other readers may learn.

As you must know, your mistakes were so rookie and ameteurish, it's hard to believe actually.

Let's see; Gucci watch, I-phone 5, almost a $1000 cash, drunk. 2 girls, el Centro, no wingman, etc.

These girls almost had to rob you LOL.

They may not ever see such a target again.

Glad you recovered and are now enjoying life in Medellin.

Like you said, all items are replaceable, no one hurt, just maybe your pride for being so foolish.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99; 1456172]She asked if her cousin could come and have a 3some and bring some sugar for 30K. I hesitated, but being my first night. I had no sense of self control, so I obliged. Her cousin comes and brings the stuff and we enjoy ourselves. Got BBBJ from both of them.

Things went downhill from there. I drank quite a bit in the airplane, I'll say about equivalent to 5 shots and 2 more drinks at La Isla. Then I bought a small rum bottle for the hotel room, so the alcohol was kicking in for sure. All for the wrong reasons. I have a pretty good tolerance, so I wasn't drunk, but was caught up in the moment. So after the 2 got down on me. And I'm just on cloud 9. Then suddenly, the original is nowhere to be seen. The cousin says she'll be back. Then the cousin says she has to go and I was WTF? She told me to wait for the original girl. So I wait. Then the security guard asked me if it's ok to let her leave. I say, ok. Then I go check my pants (should've done that earlier) and nothing seem missing, but my watch (gucci). Stupid that I took it off in the first place, I thought I must of misplaced it, so I look around and nowhere to be found. I check my wallet and there were some cash there, but way less than what I had before.

They took about $800 worth of US & Colombian money. I rarely have that much cash on me, but I took the money out of the airport ATM and just was in a hurry to leave after I checked in and didn't put most of it in my safe. And that's not the worst of it. My iPhone 5 was stolen. That really was the boiling point. It was my life and even though I'll get a new one with insurance, I was going to use it for taking nice pics / videos. Effing sucks![/QUOTE]That was one expensive session bro, but thanks for sharing.

Newbies take note: one of the fastest ways to get robbed is trying to be a "Porn Star" by having multiple chicas in one session. Almost every robbery case had the same elements: multiple chicas (at once) , lots of alcohol, and in this case, Coke (I'm assuming that's what he meant by "Sugar"). While one is occupying you in your drunken, coke-induced stupor, the other is rummaging through your pockets or in the other room (if you are at an apartment) going through your shit.

You can get away with all of this in a controlled environment like the Mansion, but with Mayorista street rats (or any street rats) you have to be more careful. Before I bring any chica to my apartment I always "chica-proof" the place by keeping all my electronics (cell phone, cameras (unless in use) and cash in the safe, and the apartment keys in my pocket. When the pants come off for a shower, I take them with me into the bathroom. They never leave my sight. At the end of the chica-proofing there is nothing for her to steal except some bed sheets, spoons, and knives.

And like Biffa said, if this is a chica you are not sure about (imagine lots of guys will run into this problem meeting chicas at Liquid Lounge since then are not vetted like at the Mansion) then never bring her back to you place. Take her to a short term love motel instead.

And as always:

[QUOTE=Biffa;1456507]
Never say you've just arrive or its your first day, always make out you've been there several weeks and will stay a few weeks more.
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I understand what everyone is saying, got no one else to blame, but me. Lots of mistakes I made: bringing nice watch / phone, too much cash. 2 chicas at once, and too much alcohol. I've recovered since. Got to say all the FB chicas I connected with were not even necessary since I'm staying at the mansion. Most of the FB chicas I talked to or friended in the USA were or currently are mansion chicas. Had a girl named Kelly Hernandez. 20 yrs old, nice natural perky B tits, soft skin, great personality (can provide FB). Got TLN for 250K plus taxi, which included extra services with no extra charge including anal, ass licking, cim, BBBJ and all possible positions. Hit that at night and then in the morning before she left around noon. All these girls are passionate and friendly, but if one is really into you and you connect with her. It's heaven on earth! And they may provide things not on the regular menu! Decided to get her to double date with another mansion guest and his girl for dinner the next night at Parque Lleras at Triada Restaurant. Nice, but a bit pricey place, but we all enjoyed ourselves and had good time.

Kelly's friend, Luna Lunita, another mansion girl with a great body and personality joined us for some clubbing at the Farenheit. Got back around 6am and we were exhausted. Didn't do any late night action, just did some cuddling / making out and rested for a morning romp. Woke up and they both tagged team me. Best 3some of my life. Had some lunch and went back at it again for round 2. Best moment was when Kelly was licking my ass and Luna was sucking me at the same time. Glad I held my load as long as I could. I ended up blowing my load on both their mouths and both sucked it dry. They didn't leave till around 6pm, so basically TLN plus TLD (todo la dia). Paid 220K to each one plus taxi (20K). I know the going rate is 300K for TLN, but those prices are definitely negotiable. BTW. Hit up a few casas: New Life, Coffe Shop & Blue Room. Casas are good for quick bang for the price, but I prefer the companionship of a girl and being able to chit chat and develop some chemistry, so the mansion or fb is a better route for me even though it's more expensive. I know I can get #'s from these casa girls, but none of them so far peaked my interest for an outside date. I'll have to say Blue Room is my preference (nicer & cleaner environment and not super busy) , but it's pricier. 100K for an hr with massage included with the extra service.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1456419]
It should also be mentioned that "Pussy Greedy" is a common factor in guys getting Got! From everything I've been told first hand and most of the stories here it is always when some gringo gets Pussy Greedy and has two or more girls in the mix that they get robbed. It's easier to pull a scam when you are in a team, safer for them too. If you need to have a 3 some do it with a girl that has good reviws or that you've taken a few times so you have a dynamic with her. You know. Use some common sense! Hahahah![/QUOTE]Slam, how is it that your posts are on delay and we end up writing almost exactly the same identical shit, LOL?

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1456516]
Newbies take note: one of the fastest ways to get robbed is trying to be a "Porn Star" by having multiple chicas in one session. Almost every robbery case had the same elements: multiple chicas (at once) , lots of alcohol, and in this case, Coke (I'm assuming that's what he meant by "Sugar"). While one is occupying you in your drunken, coke-induced stupor, the other is rummaging through your pockets or in the other room (if you are at an apartment) going through your shit.
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Very educational series of posts here today!

$800 plus nice watch and phone. Those two girls must have thought they won the lottery. As was pointed out, that's 3 months wages for many Colombians!

I do appreciate RiceRocket's willingness to post this, as he knew he'd get shit. And also his positive attitude going forward. Hopeful, new mongers learn from it what not to do.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1456662]Slam, how is it that your posts are on delay and we end up writing almost exactly the same identical shit, LOL?[/QUOTE]I've called my abogado. You'll be getting sued for copy right infringement soon! LOL! Great minds do think a like.

I was thinking the same thing. Don't know why I'm on delay. Just lucky I guess.

There has been a ton of Rice hate. He know what he did and has a good attitude about it. So let's see some of those club pics with the 6 pack of mansion girls! Dale!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1456516]You can get away with all of this in a controlled environment like the Mansion, but with Mayorista street rats (or any street rats) you have to be more careful. Before I bring any chica to my apartment I always "chica-proof" the place by keeping all my electronics (cell phone, cameras (unless in use) and cash in the safe, and the apartment keys in my pocket. When the pants come off for a shower, I take them with me into the bathroom. They never leave my sight. At the end of the chica-proofing there is nothing for her to steal except some bed sheets, spoons, and knives.[/QUOTE]I remember once, in a hotel in Caracas, I "chica-proofed" the room, all valuables hidden and locked away.

Or so I thought, LOL.

After our fun together, I went to shower, then she got up to shower afterwards.

I went for a drink from the room mini-bar, but it had been emptied, right into her over-sized purse I found.

Well, while she was in the bathroom, I re-took all the mini-bar from her purse and hid all the mini-bottles, munchies, etc out of sight.

She got the funniest, puzzled look on her face when she went to leave, grabbed her bag and it was much lighter weight than she was expecting.

I just looked at her like, what? What's wrong?

She said nothing, she split, no tip that night hahaha.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99; 1456556]I understand what everyone is saying, got no one else to blame, but me. Lots of mistakes I made: bringing nice watch / phone, too much cash. 2 chicas at once, and too much alcohol. I've recovered since. Got to say all the FB chicas I connected with were not even necessary since I'm staying at the mansion. Most of the FB chicas I talked to or friended in the USA were or currently are mansion chicas. Had a girl named Kelly Hernandez. 20 yrs old, nice natural perky B tits, soft skin, great personality (can provide FB). Got TLN for 250K plus taxi, which included extra services with no extra charge including anal, ass licking, cim, BBBJ and all possible positions.

Kelly's friend, Luna Lunita, another mansion girl with a great body and personality joined us for some clubbing at the Farenheit. Got back around 6am and we were exhausted. Didn't do any late night action, just did some cuddling / making out and rested for a morning romp. Woke up and they both tagged team me. Best 3some of my life. Had some lunch and went back at it again for round 2. Best moment was when Kelly was licking my ass and Luna was sucking me at the same time. Glad I held my load as long as I could. I ended up blowing my load on both their mouths and both sucked it dry. They didn't leave till around 6pm, so basically TLN plus TLD (todo la dia). Paid 220K to each one plus taxi (20K).[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your trip with us, warts and all. Kelly looks a bit asian, cute. Saw photos of her enjoying the horse parade during the Flower Festival. Did you arrange your date via FB or was she already showing up at the Mansion anyway? Would be great to see some pix of Luna Lunita since all the photos on her FB are of Kim Kardashian. LOL. Did you guys enjoy some chronic together?

Can't wait for the rest of your trip report. Love to read about someone enjoying the fresh excitement of hobbying in Medellin for the 1st time.

Which Mansion girls did you take to the club? Was it Luxury?

Alright guys. I know I made all the wrong moves my first night, but I have recovered and every night so far has been great, if not super great! To explain a few things about why I had that much stuff on me the first night: Didn't realize I had my watch on me the whole time, it becomes part of you and after a long flight, sorta forgot about it. I use my iphone to take pics so I didn't want to leave my phone at the hotel. But the 2 dumbest things I did was drinking too much and having too much cash on me. And certainly the biggest dumbest thing was getting the second girl to come through. Oh well. Now, onto the fun stuff.

I know everyone has their own opinion about the Mansion and being my first time, my perspective is certainly different from those that have been there multiple times or those that had never been and just heard about it. I personally like the place and the environment, there are some cons, but the pros most definitely outweigh them. There are a few veterans staying at the Mansion that has visited MDE a ridiculous number of times. I was like, really? You've visited Colombia over 50 times! There were some guys that kept to themselves, but the vets were open minded and took me under their wings and showed me the ropes. They certainly didn't blast me about my stupid first night and told me to not let it ruin the rest of my trip.

Almost all the Mansion girls are great and very approachable, some you just need some time to develop chemistry with. Plenty of chicas to choose from and I know that it's so easy to just stay there and not get a chance to venture out. Good thing a seasoned vet took me and another newbie around. First went to hang out for a quick dinner in the Mayorista (kinda brought back some bad memories) , then went to a strip club in El Centro (Conejitas, I believe). Certainly not a place to be by yourself at night, too rundown for my taste and basically 2 doable girls out of about 20. Off to San Diego Grill and it was a decent strip club, but the chicas just seem a bit cold. Looking bored and disinterested. Definitely better quality than the El Centro spot. Finally ended up at Fase-2. Easily the best place by far. Best quality of chicas and they were friendly and approachable. I liked the fact that our vet (by design) started us at the low end spots and ended up at the upscale places. The newbie took a hot looking blonde with natural DD's (I felt them, not that I'm a boobs expert) for 170K an hr including the room. I didn't partake since I was basically drained from the incredible 3some with Kelly & Luna from earlier. I just watched and enjoyed giving out the tips by touching the girls' ass & tits. Kinda gets annoying after awhile that all the girls (from all the strip clubs I've been to) that dance on stage come around to each costumer asking for tip (1-2K) , usually every 10 mins or so. I don't mind giving them, but I just don't like the fact some expect it without even politely asking for it.

I don't want to feel cheap and have the girls point at their elbow. A Colombian gesture to say that you're a cheapskate. After the strip club tour, went back to the Mansion and had my first night sleeping alone. Which I needed to prepare for tomorrow.

BTW. Kelly Hernandez is a girl I met at the Mansion and Luna Lunita as well. I know Luna's fb doesn't have her pics and in person, she doesn't look like Kim Kardashian! Haha. But she's a petite girl with a nice booty, but fake tits. It sucks I don't have my phone to take nice pictures with them. Kelly does look Asian, and that's probably why she was attracted to me because I'm chino. All the Mansion girls know me as chino cochino! If you stay at the Mansion, no need to hook up with any FB girls beforehand because if you do, they'll most likely be in the Mansion anyways! And the vets would know how to contact other FB girls as well if needed. I pretty much had to ignore other FB chicas trying to get me to invite them over to the Mansion. The current selection is good enough already and don't want to have a girl come over and end up not clicking and have to pay for her taxi back and forth. One thing I know people here mentioned, it does seem like the girls that show up are the same every other day or so, but I've only been here 4 days so not enough to make a generalization. One thing for sure, there are lots of chicas to choose from for short term or TLN.

The 6 girls I went clubbing with from my earlier post were: Kelly Hernandez, Luna Lunita, Angie Viera, Luna's sister (don't' know her name) , Sarah (tall black mansion girl) and another friend. We started at Luxury, then moved on to another spot. Alright, if anyone still wants to read the rest of my trip without giving me heat, then I'll oblige!

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99; 1456556]I understand what everyone is saying, got no one else to blame, but me. Lots of mistakes I made: bringing nice watch / phone, too much cash. 2 chicas at once, and too much alcohol. I've recovered since. Got to say all the FB chicas I connected with were not even necessary since I'm staying at the mansion. Most of the FB chicas I talked to or friended in the USA were or currently are mansion chicas. Had a girl named Kelly Hernandez. 20 yrs old, nice natural perky B tits, soft skin, great personality (can provide FB). Got TLN for 250K plus taxi, which included extra services with no extra charge including anal, ass licking, cim, BBBJ and all possible positions. Hit that at night and then in the morning before she left around noon. All these girls are passionate and friendly, but if one is really into you and you connect with her. It's heaven on earth! And they may provide things not on the regular menu! Decided to get her to double date with another mansion guest and his girl for dinner the next night at Parque Lleras at Triada Restaurant. Nice, but a bit pricey place, but we all enjoyed ourselves and had good time.

Kelly's friend, Luna Lunita, another mansion girl with a great body and personality joined us for some clubbing at the Farenheit. Got back around 6am and we were exhausted. Didn't do any late night action, just did some cuddling / making out and rested for a morning romp. Woke up and they both tagged team me. Best 3some of my life. Had some lunch and went back at it again for round 2. Best moment was when Kelly was licking my ass and Luna was sucking me at the same time. Glad I held my load as long as I could. I ended up blowing my load on both their mouths and both sucked it dry. They didn't leave till around 6pm, so basically TLN plus TLD (todo la dia). Paid 220K to each one plus taxi (20K). I know the going rate is 300K for TLN, but those prices are definitely negotiable. BTW. Hit up a few casas: New Life, Coffe Shop & Blue Room. Casas are good for quick bang for the price, but I prefer the companionship of a girl and being able to chit chat and develop some chemistry, so the mansion or fb is a better route for me even though it's more expensive. I know I can get #'s from these casa girls, but none of them so far peaked my interest for an outside date. I'll have to say Blue Room is my preference (nicer & cleaner environment and not super busy) , but it's pricier. 100K for an hr with massage included with the extra service.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you are having a blast now.

Personally I don't like the casas much. Of course there are always exceptions to the rule. But the casa chicks just don't provide the quality service that the mansion chicks do (for me personally). And then you have the guys that actually prefer the casa chicks over the Mansion because the Mansion chicks really aren't showing them much love. At least in the casas these guys get a guaranteed minimum compliance or the girls will find themselves looking for another gig fast.

One of the things I like about the Mansion is that you have a chance to chat the chicks up quite a bit. So you can get a good sense of which chicks dig you before you make a move. Otherwise your bedroom experience could actually be worst than the casas. At double or more the price.

I hope you are planning or going to Liquid Lounge for their grand opening this Saturday. Let us know how it goes.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99; 1456852]. BTW. Kelly Hernandez is a girl I met at the Mansion and Luna Lunita as well. I know Luna's fb doesn't have her pics and in person, she doesn't look like Kim Kardashian! Haha. But she's a petite girl with a nice booty, but fake tits. It sucks I don't have my phone to take nice pictures with them. Kelly does look Asian, and that's probably why she was attracted to me because I'm chino. All the Mansion girls know me as chino cochino! If you stay at the Mansion, no need to hook up with any FB girls beforehand because if you do, they'll most likely be in the Mansion anyways! And the vets would know how to contact other FB girls as well if needed. I pretty much had to ignore other FB chicas trying to get me to invite them over to the Mansion. The current selection is good enough already and don't want to have a girl come over and end up not clicking and have to pay for her taxi back and forth. One thing I know people here mentioned, it does seem like the girls that show up are the same every other day or so, but I've only been here 4 days so not enough to make a generalization. One thing for sure, there are lots of chicas to choose from for short term or TLN.

The 6 girls I went clubbing with from my earlier post were: Kelly Hernandez, Luna Lunita, Angie Viera, Luna's sister (don't' know her name) , Sarah (tall black mansion girl) and another friend. We started at Luxury, then moved on to another spot. Alright, if anyone still wants to read the rest of my trip without giving me heat, then I'll oblige![/QUOTE]Your trip report is very much appreciated, please continue as we adjust our trousers! (hahaha!)

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;1456852]Alright guys. I know I made all the wrong moves my first night, but I have recovered and every night so far has been great, if not super great! To explain a few things about why I had that much stuff on me the first night: Didn't realize I had my watch on me the whole time, it becomes part of you and after a long flight, sorta forgot about it. I use my iphone to take pics so I didn't want to leave my phone at the hotel.[/QUOTE]Don't get hung up worrying about getting those naked or 'action' shots while you are alone with the girl. I am sure there are plenty of guys with their cameras in the common area of the Mansion. Get a new buddy to take some clothed pics of you with your amigas before you leave town, otherwise you will regret it. Even Alexa could help, I think they still use an iPad to take photos of the new talent.

Thanks, I appreciate the advice and not giving me a hard time on my stupidity. I'll most definitely have to bring back some memories of these girls and it's the weekend so I expect a ton of girls showing up and going to check out Liquid Lounge on Saturday as well. BTW. It's interesting to learn Colombian slang as I had to figure out a bunch of them quick, such as epa (girls say it when they're having a good time) , kripa (weed) , chimba (multiple meanings based on context could be good or bad) , parse (partner or friend) and lots more.

[QUOTE=Almotu;1457010]Don't get hung up worrying about getting those naked or 'action' shots while you are alone with the girl. I am sure there are plenty of guys with their cameras in the common area of the Mansion. Get a new buddy to take some clothed pics of you with your amigas before you leave town, otherwise you will regret it. Even Alexa could help, I think they still use an iPad to take photos of the new talent.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;1456852]Alright guys. I know I made all the wrong moves my first night, but I have recovered and every night so far has been great, if not super great![/QUOTE]Way to bounce back señor RiceRocket!

Thanks for the reports too!

Great to hear the "Mansion" is doing well with lots of muchachas lindas running about! 😜

Have fun! 👍👍

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;1456852]Alright guys. I know I made all the wrong moves my first night, but I have recovered and every night so far has been great, if not super great![/QUOTE]Sounds good. Keep doing your thing!

A couple of weeks ago I was near the end of three weeks in Medellin. I was there mainly for business, but was scheduled to meet a young coed that was interested in obtaining a scholarship to continue her studies. To put the meeting in context, I, through a foundation, provide several students in Medellin with financial help with their education. This girl was referred by one of her university professors that I have know for at least 10 years.

I was staying at the Intercontinental and she arrived on time, a pleasant surprise. After our discussion, I found her not only to be beautiful, but a very smart and serious girl. As I had hoped for, we felt comfortable with each other and had some seriously good sex. After we had spent several hours together and agreed on what would be done for her to pay her school expenses, it was time for her to go. I had 2 million Cop in my pocket. Under different circumstances, I would have never left that money outside the safe. I had put my wallet and passport in the safe. I reached into my pocket to give her some money for a taxi, and it wasn't there.

It was a simple situation. I had the money in my pants pocket when she arrived, and now it was gone. Of course, she denied taking the money, and the next 15 or 20 minutes were not pleasant. She dumped her purse out to show me that she didn't have the money, and even started taking her clothes off so I could search her. Basically I told her that I wasn't going to play that game. I knew that she had taken the money. After threats to call the police and hotel security, I said screw it, it was my stupidity, and I just wanted her to leave. Unbelievably, she insisted on staying until I gave her some money for a taxi or a bus, because she claimed not to have a paso. During the conversation, in which there was no cursing or loud voices, I even congratulated her on how slick she was and offered to share the 2 million with her, and we would go our separate ways. She maintained her innocence. But this time, I just wanted her out of my sight, and went into the safe to get a little money for her transportation.

I saw that my passport and some other documents were not lying flat on the floor of the safe, and when I looked under those documents, there was the 2 million. I felt absolutely horrible! In fact, I didn't know what to do except to apologize. I showed her the money and began dealing out the 50 thousand bills. One for her and one for me. Basically I thought that was only fair, and perhaps my gesture would show her that I was sincerely regretful. After all the tension, and once the truth was revealed, she started crying. I've got to admit that I shed a tear or two myself. If someone would have put a gun to my head and demanded that I admit that the money was in the safe, I would have told them to just shoot me. There was no doubt in my mind that I had left it in my pant pocket.

As strange as it seems, this girl and I formed a special bond. She called later that night and came and spent the night, and insisted on going to the airport with me (a Paisa custom). Many of the girls in Medellin are desperate, and theft (as we have recently read) is to be assumed. But, it is equally easy to stereotype these girls and make assumptions. I just wanted to share another experience.

Only good energy!

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1457126]I saw that my passport and some other documents were not lying flat on the floor of the safe, and when I looked under those documents, there was the 2 million. I felt absolutely horrible! In fact, I didn't know what to do except to apologize. I showed her the money and began dealing out the 50 thousand bills. One for her and one for me. Basically I thought that was only fair, and perhaps my gesture would show her that I was sincerely regretful. After all the tension, and once the truth was revealed, she started crying. I've got to admit that I shed a tear or two myself. If someone would have put a gun to my head and demanded that I admit that the money was in the safe, I would have told them to just shoot me. There was no doubt in my mind that I had left it in my pant pocket.

As strange as it seems, this girl and I formed a special bond. She called later that night and came and spent the night, and insisted on going to the airport with me (a Paisa custom). Many of the girls in Medellin are desperate, and theft (as we have recently read) is to be assumed. But, it is equally easy to stereotype these girls and make assumptions. I just wanted to share another experience.

Only good energy![/QUOTE]Some would call that trollling. You titled your post "Ripped Off" when it turns out it was just you being a douchbag.

That's not good energy amigo!

Just curious but since I am not staying at the mansion is it alright to visit the place to meet the vets? Since this is my first time in Medellin it would be interesting to visit this place since this is where all the FB girls hang out. I'm staying at Hotel Estelar Blue. Not sure how far the mansion is from my hotel but I want to get out and venture around and enjoy Medellin during my stay. Arriving on Sunday for a few days.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1457126]A couple of weeks ago I was near the end of three weeks in Medellin. I was there mainly for business, but was scheduled to meet a young coed that was interested in obtaining a scholarship to continue her studies. To put the meeting in context, I, through a foundation, provide several students in Medellin with financial help with their education. This girl was referred by one of her university professors that I have know for at least 10 years.

I was staying at the Intercontinental and she arrived on time, a pleasant surprise. After our discussion, I found her not only to be beautiful, but a very smart and serious girl. As I had hoped for, we felt comfortable with each other and had some seriously good sex. After we had spent several hours together and agreed on what would be done for her to pay her school expenses, it was time for her to go. I had 2 million Cop in my pocket. Under different circumstances, I would have never left that money outside the safe. I had put my wallet and passport in the safe. I reached into my pocket to give her some money for a taxi, and it wasn't there.

It was a simple situation. I had the money in my pants pocket when she arrived, and now it was gone. Of course, she denied taking the money, and the next 15 or 20 minutes were not pleasant. She dumped her purse out to show me that she didn't have the money, and even started taking her clothes off so I could search her. Basically I told her that I wasn't going to play that game. I knew that she had taken the money. After threats to call the police and hotel security, I said screw it, it was my stupidity, and I just wanted her to leave. Unbelievably, she insisted on staying until I gave her some money for a taxi or a bus, because she claimed not to have a paso. During the conversation, in which there was no cursing or loud voices, I even congratulated her on how slick she was and offered to share the 2 million with her, and we would go our separate ways. She maintained her innocence. But this time, I just wanted her out of my sight, and went into the safe to get a little money for her transportation.

I saw that my passport and some other documents were not lying flat on the floor of the safe, and when I looked under those documents, there was the 2 million. I felt absolutely horrible! In fact, I didn't know what to do except to apologize. I showed her the money and began dealing out the 50 thousand bills. One for her and one for me. Basically I thought that was only fair, and perhaps my gesture would show her that I was sincerely regretful. After all the tension, and once the truth was revealed, she started crying. I've got to admit that I shed a tear or two myself. If someone would have put a gun to my head and demanded that I admit that the money was in the safe, I would have told them to just shoot me. There was no doubt in my mind that I had left it in my pant pocket.

As strange as it seems, this girl and I formed a special bond. She called later that night and came and spent the night, and insisted on going to the airport with me (a Paisa custom). Many of the girls in Medellin are desperate, and theft (as we have recently read) is to be assumed. But, it is equally easy to stereotype these girls and make assumptions. I just wanted to share another experience.

Only good energy![/QUOTE]And your point is?

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1457126]As strange as it seems, this girl and I formed a special bond. She called later that night and came and spent the night, and insisted on going to the airport with me (a Paisa custom). Many of the girls in Medellin are desperate, and theft (as we have recently read) is to be assumed. But, it is equally easy to stereotype these girls and make assumptions. I just wanted to share another experience.

Only good energy![/QUOTE]Yikes, you must have felt like a real Schmuck hahaha.

I'm glad it turned out well for the both of you.

Hello,

I'm looking for some seasoned pros of Colombia to recommend some "girl friendly" hotels if possible.

I'll be in Bogota, Medellin, Cali, Cartagena and Barranquilla.

I'm looking for hotels that are close to the action, reasonably priced and of course, girl friendly. I'm used to the Thai scene and like the hotels with security guards that record the I'd's of your guests. I prefer taking a girl for the whole night. How common is it to do "toda la noche" in Colombia, ? Or is this a bad idea here?

I've scoured the forum but haven't found a lot of hotel recommendation. Tripadvisor and lonelyplanet rarely put "Chica amistoso" in the hotel descriptions.

Any advice or tips on this would be greatly appreciate.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Razor77;1457140]Just curious but since I am not staying at the mansion is it alright to visit the place to meet the vets? Since this is my first time in Medellin it would be interesting to visit this place since this is where all the FB girls hang out. I'm staying at Hotel Estelar Blue. Not sure how far the mansion is from my hotel but I want to get out and venture around and enjoy Medellin during my stay. Arriving on Sunday for a few days.[/QUOTE]Nope. No visiting the Mansion unless you are staying there. You might be able to visit La Cueva for around 50k if it is a full house otherwise they will make you get a room. Check the $50 specials they have.

No!

A. G.

[QUOTE=Razor77;1457140]Just curious but since I am not staying at the mansion is it alright to visit the place to meet the vets? Since this is my first time in Medellin it would be interesting to visit this place since this is where all the FB girls hang out. I'm staying at Hotel Estelar Blue. Not sure how far the mansion is from my hotel but I want to get out and venture around and enjoy Medellin during my stay. Arriving on Sunday for a few days.[/QUOTE]

LT, you forgot to add that you had dinner one night with the Medellin legend "me"! Jajaja.

A. G.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1457126]A couple of weeks ago I was near the end of three weeks in Medellin. I was there mainly for business, but was scheduled to meet a young coed that was interested in obtaining a scholarship to continue her studies. To put the meeting in context, I, through a foundation, provide several students in Medellin with financial help with their education. This girl was referred by one of her university professors that I have know for at least 10 years.

I was staying at the Intercontinental and she arrived on time, a pleasant surprise. After our discussion, I found her not only to be beautiful, but a very smart and serious girl. As I had hoped for, we felt comfortable with each other and had some seriously good sex. After we had spent several hours together and agreed on what would be done for her to pay her school expenses, it was time for her to go. I had 2 million Cop in my pocket. Under different circumstances, I would have never left that money outside the safe. I had put my wallet and passport in the safe. I reached into my pocket to give her some money for a taxi, and it wasn't there.

It was a simple situation. I had the money in my pants pocket when she arrived, and now it was gone. Of course, she denied taking the money, and the next 15 or 20 minutes were not pleasant. She dumped her purse out to show me that she didn't have the money, and even started taking her clothes off so I could search her. Basically I told her that I wasn't going to play that game. I knew that she had taken the money. After threats to call the police and hotel security, I said screw it, it was my stupidity, and I just wanted her to leave. Unbelievably, she insisted on staying until I gave her some money for a taxi or a bus, because she claimed not to have a paso. During the conversation, in which there was no cursing or loud voices, I even congratulated her on how slick she was and offered to share the 2 million with her, and we would go our separate ways. She maintained her innocence. But this time, I just wanted her out of my sight, and went into the safe to get a little money for her transportation.

I saw that my passport and some other documents were not lying flat on the floor of the safe, and when I looked under those documents, there was the 2 million. I felt absolutely horrible! In fact, I didn't know what to do except to apologize. I showed her the money and began dealing out the 50 thousand bills. One for her and one for me. Basically I thought that was only fair, and perhaps my gesture would show her that I was sincerely regretful. After all the tension, and once the truth was revealed, she started crying. I've got to admit that I shed a tear or two myself. If someone would have put a gun to my head and demanded that I admit that the money was in the safe, I would have told them to just shoot me. There was no doubt in my mind that I had left it in my pant pocket.

As strange as it seems, this girl and I formed a special bond. She called later that night and came and spent the night, and insisted on going to the airport with me (a Paisa custom). Many of the girls in Medellin are desperate, and theft (as we have recently read) is to be assumed. But, it is equally easy to stereotype these girls and make assumptions. I just wanted to share another experience.

Only good energy![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Razor77;1457140]Just curious but since I am not staying at the mansion is it alright to visit the place to meet the vets? Since this is my first time in Medellin it would be interesting to visit this place since this is where all the FB girls hang out. I'm staying at Hotel Estelar Blue. Not sure how far the mansion is from my hotel but I want to get out and venture around and enjoy Medellin during my stay. Arriving on Sunday for a few days.[/QUOTE]The Liquid Lounge is scheduled to open tonight. You'll see all the FB Mansion chicas there I'm sure, as well as Robert (owner of La Cueva at the Mansion) and the current gringo hoard in town, LOL:

[url]http://liquidloungemedellin.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Member #3060; 1457274]Hello,

I'm looking for some seasoned pros of Colombia to recommend some "girl friendly" hotels if possible.

I'll be in Bogota, Medellin, Cali, Cartagena and Barranquilla.

I'm looking for hotels that are close to the action, reasonably priced and of course, girl friendly. I'm used to the Thai scene and like the hotels with security guards that record the I'd's of your guests. I prefer taking a girl for the whole night. How common is it to do "toda la noche" in Colombia, ? Or is this a bad idea here?

I've scoured the forum but haven't found a lot of hotel recommendation. Tripadvisor and lonelyplanet rarely put "Chica amistoso" in the hotel descriptions.

Any advice or tips on this would be greatly appreciate.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Check the Medellin Hotels thread under "User Threads"

[QUOTE=Member #3060; 1457274]Hello,

I'm looking for some seasoned pros of Colombia to recommend some "girl friendly" hotels if possible.

I'll be in Bogota, Medellin, Cali, Cartagena and Barranquilla.

I'm looking for hotels that are close to the action, reasonably priced and of course, girl friendly. I'm used to the Thai scene and like the hotels with security guards that record the I'd's of your guests. I prefer taking a girl for the whole night. How common is it to do "toda la noche" in Colombia, ? Or is this a bad idea here?

I've scoured the forum but haven't found a lot of hotel recommendation. Tripadvisor and lonelyplanet rarely put "Chica amistoso" in the hotel descriptions.

Any advice or tips on this would be greatly appreciate.

Thanks![/QUOTE]I don't like to recommend hotels because people seem to have different needs or preferences. TLN is pretty common in Colombia, it may depend on the venue but it can typically be negotiated with the girls directly and many casas offer takeout service. If you go to Cartagena, Angeles, Rocio, Barbilla's, LDV, etc all have TLN action. In Medellin, the strip joints have it for sure (that is the only night scene, apart from street walkers). Same deal elsewhere really.

So the guy should sign up for an antique Costa Rica site to find ceviche in Medellin? How about if he needs his car fixed, or house painted?

Peru Mix.

Calle 10 # 37. 08.

Poblado, a block from Lleras.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1456160]If you are on C R T, look for a forum called COLOMBIA: Dining Experiences in Greater Medellin. Or send a guy named BlueDevil a PM over there. He would know for sure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jonesie;1457514]How about if he needs his car fixed, or house painted?[/QUOTE]I'll be sure to refer him to you if he asks! If you also specialize in rimjobs please PM with that info instead of posting it here. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Member #3060; 1457274]Hello,

I'm looking for some seasoned pros of Colombia to recommend some "girl friendly" hotels if possible.

I'll be in Bogota, Medellin, Cali, Cartagena and Barranquilla.

I'm looking for hotels that are close to the action, reasonably priced and of course, girl friendly. I'm used to the Thai scene and like the hotels with security guards that record the I'd's of your guests. I prefer taking a girl for the whole night. How common is it to do "toda la noche" in Colombia, ? Or is this a bad idea here?

I've scoured the forum but haven't found a lot of hotel recommendation. Tripadvisor and lonelyplanet rarely put "Chica amistoso" in the hotel descriptions.

Any advice or tips on this would be greatly appreciate.

Thanks![/QUOTE]I can offer you my place in Cali. It is a finca located about 25 minutes from the city. You can check it out at [url]www.finca18.com.[/url] Also, I offer a catalog of girls from which you can choose to spend a couple of hours to the entire night if you want. In case you would like transportation included, I can also arrange a package where I pick you up at the airport with the girl you chose. Simply tell me your budget and what you have in mind and I will work something out to make your stay in Cali a much more easier and enjoyable experience. You can contact me through the info on the website mentioned above.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1457464]The Liquid Lounge is scheduled to open tonight. You'll see all the FB Mansion chicas there I'm sure, as well as Robert (owner of La Cueva at the Mansion) and the current gringo hoard in town, LOL:

[url]http://liquidloungemedellin.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Greatly appreciate that. I guess AG doesn't want to let someone new check out his place in order to get an idea how the place is for future trips. For me personally, I always stay at a nice upscale "chain" hotel for my first stay in any new location. Then once I get comfortable with my surroundings and learning the ins and outs of the location I am a little more comfortable to explore. Shutting a person out completely is not the best way to get business. Guess I will just stick to the hotels for future trips. Great way of welcoming a newby to Medellin. I will come by liquidlounge tonight (Sunday) or tomorrow. Look forward in meeting some of the vets and learning some of their ways.

[QUOTE=Jonesie;1457514]So the guy should sign up for an antique Costa Rica site to find ceviche in Medellin? How about if he needs his car fixed, or house painted?[/QUOTE]I know you have your own CR site, so it's understandable you would talk shit about other sites. But your site is not all that player.

Glad he was not stolen again and having fun. But what he, just like other guys at Mansion, got and did were the things anybody could buy with money. The experience he described was neither special nor based on his quality, intelligence or sophistication. These are the products and services anybody can buy with some amount of money, just like Disneyland.
I am not saying that his and others experience with the de facto package tour provided by Mansion should be criticized. I am glad that these people are having fun in Medellin. But I am not sure if these reports are informative or interesting to the members who organize the trip by themselves and at least try to speak Spanish. Anyway, the clubs and sex industry in Medellin would love these people.

[QUOTE=Almotu; 1456785]Thanks for sharing your trip with us, warts and all. Kelly looks a bit asian, cute. Saw photos of her enjoying the horse parade during the Flower Festival. Did you arrange your date via FB or was she already showing up at the Mansion anyway? Would be great to see some pix of Luna Lunita since all the photos on her FB are of Kim Kardashian. LOL. Did you guys enjoy some chronic together?

Can't wait for the rest of your trip report. Love to read about someone enjoying the fresh excitement of hobbying in Medellin for the 1st time.

Which Mansion girls did you take to the club? Was it Luxury?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Olympo Host;1457543]I can offer you my place in Cali.[/QUOTE]But amigo, it looks like we have to have a group of 10 or more to rent this finca. Correct?
And Matt... Very good commentary.....
Cheers.

Razor,

Don't know Aussie Greg but have to agree with his policy. Your original post was "Since this is my first time in Medellin it would be interesting to visit this place since this is where all the FB girls hang out". Your intentions were not to check out the place but to meet the vets and scope out the FB girls. If I am paying a little more to stay at the mansion then I appreciate the no extra sausage hanging around. You asked the question and got the answer, don't pout. Spend a hundred bucks and spend a night, that would be the right way to check the place out to see if you like it. Just say'

Thanks for the recent on the ground reports. I understand the vets don't post much because of all the trolls. Now I see why. Oh, and razor, spend the 15 or so bucks and get yourself a paid membership. Support the site.

[QUOTE=Ezyngo;1457785]But amigo, it looks like we have to have a group of 10 or more to rent this finca. Correct?[/QUOTE]No, you don't. It could be just you, you and a wingman, you and a couple friends, whatever. I have that 10 person minimun on the site for Cali locals who rent the place for family reunions, weddings, spiritual retreats, etc. The site is aimed for the local clientele, as you can see it is only in Spanish. I use it here merely for the purpose of showing pictures of the house. The rates on the site wouldn't apply to you either, that is why I asked for your budget or what you have in mind, so I can offer you something to your liking. The rates also depend on the amount of nights you are planning on staying. You are dealing directly with the owner here, so there is ample room for negotiation. I'm not a 2nd or 3rd middleman. I have now began offering the place for Adult Vacation Travel, and I have a website just for that service with pictures of the girls, I just won't post it up here since I think that's against the rules. But I can also get girls for you to come up to the house and spend the night with you. It's a matter of what you want really, and how much you want to spend. I can also offer you only lodging and I'll take you out to restaurants, bars, clubs, etc, like a tour guide. I'm an American who got tired of doing business with Colombians. So I changed the business plan and now my focus is to cater to the foreign hobbyists. I speak fluent English (I consider it my first languague) but fluent Spanish as well (I blend in as another local, which I am kinda). I just begun doing this, so I know I have a rep to build here on the forum, but I can assure you that I will make your stay in Cali a more enjoyable experience. I would appreciate a non-biased recommendation afterwards to let the fellas on ISG know what it was like.

Razor, your right mate, I'm always on a trip somewhere.

Alexa the secretary shows people around but they got to call her between the hours of 10:30am to 6:00pm Monday to Friday for a appointment for a look around.

Usually she organizes the look around between the hours of 10:30am and 2:00pm, remember its only a look around, you carnt hang.

That doesn't include La Cueva either, you got to get in touch with Robert and even I don't have his telephone number and if your not a guest a either MP 1 or MP 2, you can't get in.

A. G.

[QUOTE=Razor77;1457705]Greatly appreciate that. I guess AG doesn't want to let someone new check out his place in order to get an idea how the place is for future trips. For me personally, I always stay at a nice upscale "chain" hotel for my first stay in any new location. Then once I get comfortable with my surroundings and learning the ins and outs of the location I am a little more comfortable to explore. Shutting a person out completely is not the best way to get business. Guess I will just stick to the hotels for future trips. Great way of welcoming a newby to Medellin. I will come by liquidlounge tonight (Sunday) or tomorrow. Look forward in meeting some of the vets and learning some of their ways.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1457446]LT, you forgot to add that you had dinner one night with the Medellin legend "me"! Jajaja.

A. G.[/QUOTE]Greg, I didn't mention it for two reasons. First, no one would believe that you actually have a friend, and secondly, they damn sure wouldn't believe you bought dinner at the best restaurant in Medellin. Both are true. I'm still thinking about the trip into the amazon.

So how does it work? If you want to take a girl out do you have to pay the club?

I assume there will be a ton of mansion girls there, won't that hurt their business at the mansion?

[url]https://www.facebook.com/liquidmde[/url]

[url]http://liquidloungemedellin.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=JayHighFive; 1458018]So how does it work? If you want to take a girl out do you have to pay the club?

I assume there will be a ton of mansion girls there, won't that hurt their business at the mansion?

[url]https://www.facebook.com/liquidmde[/url]

[url]http://liquidloungemedellin.com/[/url][/QUOTE]I'm thinking more like the girls from other clubs who are not happy with the current pricing structure of say Phase2, San Diego, La Isla, Luna, ect. Clubs like that where I think the girls get taxed too. Some of the Mansion girl will make an appearance I'm sure. With anything in life if it's good for them money wise and fun the girls will come back. If it sucks the good girls will not come back. Just simple logic to see how a girl chose where to rent out her pussy.

Jay would love to know these question too.

Also how does the Liquid Lounge work? Is it only Mansion guest only or is it for everyone and anybody to just walk in?

I think this will hurt business at the Mansion bar, as the girls will no longer go there and instead go to the Liquid Lounge club instead.

[QUOTE=JayHighFive; 1458018]So how does it work? If you want to take a girl out do you have to pay the club?

I assume there will be a ton of mansion girls there, won't that hurt their business at the mansion?

[url]https://www.facebook.com/liquidmde[/url]

[url]http://liquidloungemedellin.com/[/url][/QUOTE]

Liquid Lounge is a semi private club open to ALL tourists and local Colombiana chicas. We are not restricting anyone, but we will try to discourage local colombian guys because the girls don't want to be recognized. We have no control of the girls whatsoever. We are not a strip club. It is primarily a bar for Gringos and the local Chicas who want to meet them. We had a very successful grand opening and the party was a blast. There were way more girls than guys there, and the dance pole show was great. Of course Demi had to take her clothes off and give us a show on the dancing pole which made the guys happy, but concerned me a little since we are not a strip club, and I didn't want to get in trouble.

In the coming weeks we will be making many improvements especially building up the upstairs gaming area which currently has the dancing pole. We will have a pool table, foosball, and a Sony Playstation to help break the ice and keep the girls from isolating. All the girls have been telling me they would love to have games to play with the guys instead of waiting on a couch for someone to take them.

I doubt this will cause any issues with the Mansion. In fact, the Mansion will be renting out rooms for short time for our guests. I have been a long time guest of the Mansion and plan on continuing to stay there and recommending others there. La Cueva is very convenient for the Mansion guests, and I can't see it having much affect there either. I think most guests will go to Cueva first and if they get bored, they will jump in a cab and go to Liquid.

[QUOTE=Esteef;1458164]Liquid Lounge is a semi private club open to ALL tourists and local Colombiana chicas. We are not restricting anyone, but we will try to discourage local colombian guys because the girls don't want to be recognized. We have no control of the girls whatsoever. We are not a strip club. It is primarily a bar for Gringos and the local Chicas who want to meet them. We had a very successful grand opening and the party was a blast. There were way more girls than guys there, and the dance pole show was great.[/QUOTE]Glad to hear the opening was a success, now let's see some photos on the fb page (why) Is there a cover to get in and how much were the beer, wine & cocktails?

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1457126]I saw that my passport and some other documents were not lying flat on the floor of the safe, and when I looked under those documents, there was the 2 million. I felt absolutely horrible! In fact, I didn't know what to do except to apologize. I showed her the money and began dealing out the 50 thousand bills. One for her and one for me. Basically I thought that was only fair, and perhaps my gesture would show her that I was sincerely regretful. After all the tension, and once the truth was revealed, she started crying. I've got to admit that I shed a tear or two myself. If someone would have put a gun to my head and demanded that I admit that the money was in the safe, I would have told them to just shoot me. There was no doubt in my mind that I had left it in my pant pocket.

Only good energy![/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing this. I have done the same thing too and I know that horrible feeling you're talking about. Now when I can't find something, I double and triple check before saying anything and in all cases (can only speak about my experience at the Mansion) I usually end up finding it.

[QUOTE=Esteef; 1458164]Liquid Lounge is a semi private club open to ALL tourists and local Colombiana chicas. We are not restricting anyone, but we will try to discourage local colombian guys because the girls don't want to be recognized. We have no control of the girls whatsoever. We are not a strip club. It is primarily a bar for Gringos and the local Chicas who want to meet them. We had a very successful grand opening and the party was a blast. There were way more girls than guys there, and the dance pole show was great. Of course Demi had to take her clothes off and give us a show on the dancing pole which made the guys happy, but concerned me a little since we are not a strip club, and I didn't want to get in trouble.

In the coming weeks we will be making many improvements especially building up the upstairs gaming area which currently has the dancing pole. We will have a pool table, foosball, and a Sony Playstation to help break the ice and keep the girls from isolating. All the girls have been telling me they would love to have games to play with the guys instead of waiting on a couch for someone to take them.

I doubt this will cause any issues with the Mansion. In fact, the Mansion will be renting out rooms for short time for our guests. I have been a long time guest of the Mansion and plan on continuing to stay there and recommending others there. La Cueva is very convenient for the Mansion guests, and I can't see it having much affect there either. I think most guests will go to Cueva first and if they get bored, they will jump in a cab and go to Liquid.[/QUOTE]It does sound great and I do wish you success with you club, but I have been going to Medellin for 9 years now and have seen a number of non-Colombians opening bars and clubs for gringos, and at every one of them places local Colombians overwhelmed these place and push out the gringos. I really hope this does not happen to your club. You will need to keep on top of who you let into the club.

[QUOTE=Esteef;1458164]In fact, the Mansion will be renting out rooms for short time for our guests. I have been a long time guest of the Mansion and plan on continuing to stay there and recommending others there.[/QUOTE]I infrequently stay at the Mansion, but highly recommend it for new visitors to Medellin. But the notion that it will rent rooms on a "short time" basis is an idea that ought to be reexamined. It would be disruptive and only bring more problems. There are plenty of love motels, I would not stay in one as my hotel. Is someone thinking?

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1458251]I infrequently stay at the Mansion, but highly recommend it for new visitors to Medellin. But the notion that it will rent rooms on a "short time" basis is an idea that ought to be reexamined. It would be disruptive and only bring more problems. There are plenty of love motels, I would not stay in one as my hotel. Is someone thinking?[/QUOTE]I'm hoping for the best but I strongly agree LT.

lt,

it was a great meal mate! looking forward you trying to out do me in dallas in the future mate!

river trip down the amazon, starts in quito, ecuador, 6 hour road trip to coca then the rest of the trip is in a fast speed boat.
will get back to you with the dates, we will get well into brazil before the first game of the soccer world cup 2014 starts so we have time to get out of the boat and fly to the games people have interest in. i will be going to the australian games as australia have already qualified, i'll try and make a colombia game to if they qualify!

you can bring your favorite colombian dirty ***** to if you want, we can fly them back from leticia and bring in a new lot for the next part of the trip.

who's interested in coming.

a. g.

[quote=legal tender;1457950]greg, i didn't mention it for two reasons. first, no one would believe that you actually have a friend, and secondly, they damn sure wouldn't believe you bought dinner at the best restaurant in medellin. both are true. i'm still thinking about the trip into the amazon.[/quote]

trip down the napo / amazon river, we meet in quito, ecuador 12th-13th may. 2014.
first match in the soccer world cup is on the 12th june.
a.g.

[quote=aussie greg; 1458338]lt,

it was a great meal mate! looking forward you trying to out do me in dallas in the future mate!

river trip down the amazon, starts in quito, ecuador. 6 hour road trip to coca then the rest of the trip is in a fast speed boat.

will get back to you with the dates, we will get well into brazil before the first game of the soccer world cup 2014 starts so we have time to get out of the boat and fly to the games people have interest in. i will be going to the australian games as australia have already qualified, i'll try and make a colombia game to if they qualify!

you can bring your favorite colombian dirty * to if you want, we can fly them back from leticia and bring in a new lot for the next part of the trip.

who's interested in coming.

a. g.[/quote]

I just finished a tremendously great 8 day trip in MDE save for the first night when I was robbed, but all things ended up super well. But having received a few PMs from some vets and reading some of the comments on here, I'll just be wasting my time writing up a culmination of my trip with photos to prove. Not going to happen. I'll just get clobbered about this and that. And all the BS sometimes this board has become. So if you want some info, PM me and I'll gladly respond as I have to everyone who done so. No wonder the vets don't post here as much. I know some of you going to give me a hard time for this, fine with me.

That just sad when someone doesn't want to post because of all the bull. What's the point of having a board if all people are going to do is complain what someone should do. I was following the reports on this site so I could learn about Medellin before going and not having to ask a lot of questions by learning from others. Thanks for the the info you posted thus far RiceRocket99 ever little bit helps.

Lakeside

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1458251]I infrequently stay at the Mansion, but highly recommend it for new visitors to Medellin. But the notion that it will rent rooms on a "short time" basis is an idea that ought to be reexamined. It would be disruptive and only bring more problems. There are plenty of love motels, I would not stay in one as my hotel. Is someone thinking?[/QUOTE]What rooms are you thinking about for these "short time" rooms?

So the bed sheets are nothing to rave home above, it's like your motel 6 sheets. Can you imagine when they start hosting hourly rooms? Yikes for those who will lay their heads on them. When I was there I questioned the cleaniness of the comforter if it was really washed before I arrived. I know while I was there the comforter wasn't washed in between my sessions of fun. I think Mansion should look into investing a few dollars and order some sheets, duvets and pillows from amazon. Get the higher thread count sheets. It would be a nice touch for your guests! Also agreed rethink these "short time" room rentals. It will turn into a love motel and just disrupt the energy already there.

[QUOTE=Lakeside1; 1458791]What's the point of having a board if all people are going to do is complain what someone should do. Thanks for the the info you posted thus far RiceRocket99 ever little bit helps.

Lakeside[/QUOTE]It has been like this for years amigos. In fact, it was worse before than now. Sad but true. And I could not agree more with you.
I'll be in Medellin in a couple hours. See ya'll.
But still cheers.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;1458681]I just finished a tremendously great 8 day trip in MDE save for the first night when I was robbed, but all things ended up super well. But having received a few PMs from some vets and reading some of the comments on here, I'll just be wasting my time writing up a culmination of my trip with photos to prove. Not going to happen. I'll just get clobbered about this and that. And all the BS sometimes this board has become. So if you want some info, PM me and I'll gladly respond as I have to everyone who done so. No wonder the vets don't post here as much. I know some of you going to give me a hard time for this, fine with me.[/QUOTE]Well, glad you enjoyed yourself after your initial setback.

Can't remember ever seeing a post before announcing that there wouldn't be a trip report post.

Post if you like, don't post if you don't like.

Most guys (posters) are generally cool, and appreciate trip reports, just have to ignore the ignorant ones.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=Lakeside1; 1458791]That just sad when someone doesn't want to post because of all the bull. What's the point of having a board if all people are going to do is complain what someone should do. I was following the reports on this site so I could learn about Medellin before going and not having to ask a lot of questions by learning from others.

Lakeside[/QUOTE]I'll be there in a couple of weeks and will post a trip report as I always do. You've got to have thick skin to hang around these parts (ISG). Most of the guys that can't hack it (any criticism) get sent home with their tail between their legs.

If you want to "learn" about Medellin then you can always read the old forum posts (start around 2009 and work your way forward). Then you get to the point (like the rest of us) that you are only checking this thread for updates about the city (closings, new openings, crack downs, etc.).

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1458953]Then you get to the point (like the rest of us) that you are only checking this thread for updates about the city (closings, new openings, crack downs, etc.).[/QUOTE]Dude, you practically live on this board, get a life!

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1458936]Well, glad you enjoyed yourself after your initial setback.

Can't remember ever seeing a post before announcing that there wouldn't be a trip report post.

Post if you like, don't post if you don't like.

Most guys (posters) are generally cool, and appreciate trip reports, just have to ignore the ignorant ones.

Have fun![/QUOTE]I hope RR69 changes his mind and finishes up his Colombian TR. The first part was a big eye opener and I'm sure his TR will help many keep their belongings. I liked his style of mongering, I thought he did very well for a "first timer" excluding the first night of course. So RR69 your honesty in admitting your blunder will no doubt help others, I too make rookie mistakes and will be more on guard thanks to you. Cheers Bro.

[QUOTE=Ouzo 12;1458969]Dude, you practically live on this board, get a life![/QUOTE]Damn, I haven't had a stalker in a while. You know ISG is getting bad when you've got guys following forum members instead of pussy.

Maybe if you buy a membership here at ISG the rest of us will chip in and buy you a passport. We'll even have it delivered to you up there in Canada via Mooseback.

And I thought Canadians where supposed to be funny:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WcOcgc3WN4[/url]

[QUOTE=Ricker;1458936]Well, glad you enjoyed yourself after your initial setback.

Can't remember ever seeing a post before announcing that there wouldn't be a trip report post.

Post if you like, don't post if you don't like.

Most guys (posters) are generally cool, and appreciate trip reports, just have to ignore the ignorant ones.

Have fun![/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=Ouzo 12;1458969]Dude, you practically live on this board, get a life![/QUOTE]For example, one of the ignorant posters aqui.
Three posts and he wants to give a guy a hard time just for posting.
Really, who should get a life here?

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1459146]For example, one of the ignorant posters aqui.

Three posts and he wants to give a guy a hard time just for posting.

Really, who should get a life here?[/QUOTE]From the rest of us here at ISG, thanks for all the posts Ricker! And if you do live on this board, it must be because the rest of the time you spend between so fine chica legs and want to want us all to know the joy of the experience. So keep on posting. You are a great source of info from what I have read, and I am personally damn glad that you post as much as you do!

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1459121]Damn, I haven't had a stalker in a while. You know ISG is getting bad when you've got guys following forum members instead of pussy.

Maybe if you buy a membership here at ISG the rest of us will chip in and buy you a passport. We'll even have it delivered to you up there in Canada via Mooseback.

And I thought Canadians where supposed to be funny:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WcOcgc3WN4[/url][/QUOTE]From the rest of us here at ISG, thanks for all the posts SavePros, same as Ricker : if you do live on this board, it must be because the rest of the time you spend between so fine chica legs and want to want us all to know the joy of the experience. Keep on posting. You are a great source of info, and I am personally damn glad that you post as much as you do! I trip report and got flamed by a guy, it is a shame, but can't let those guys ruin a good thing.

Opening of Liquid Lounge on Saturday was fun, and the girls from La Cueva came out. Ratio of girls to guys was 2:1, and more than a few went home alone.

Thank you Sir Mojito Bandit for the compliments, and muchisimas gracias Senor CultureShock for the photos!

Hey guys,

I'll be traveling to Medellin in a couple weeks. I've never been there or even to Colombia before. What is the Mansion? I see guys posting about it, but can someone explain what it is and how things work?

Thanks a million!

[QUOTE=AcesAndEights; 1459411]Hey guys,

I'll be traveling to Medellin in a couple weeks. I've never been there or even to Colombia before. What is the Mansion? I see guys posting about it, but can someone explain what it is and how things work?

Thanks a million![/QUOTE]The Mansion used to be called Casa Blanca. The postings on the Casa Blanca thread should answer any questions that you have [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3119-Casa-Blanca-Medellin[/url]

I stayed there a couple of years ago on my first trip to Colombia. The price, location, friendly staff, and the fellowship of the other guests were all outstanding.

[QUOTE=AcesAndEights; 1459411]Hey guys,

I'll be traveling to Medellin in a couple weeks. I've never been there or even to Colombia before. What is the Mansion? I see guys posting about it, but can someone explain what it is and how things work?

Thanks a million![/QUOTE]It, with its sister property which just up the hill from the Mansion, are bed and breakfast places. The guests are almost exclusively European, Australian and from the USA There are a number of young women (most are university students) that come by to lay by the pool or the private club which in English is called "the cave." If they're there they are open to a couple of hours of personal attention for the usual sum of 150000 COP. I highly recommend the Mansion for the new visitor to Medellin. There are usually some seasoned visitors that have valuable information about the City of Eternal Spring. And, of course, take the time to read here.

Only good energy!

CS, nice meeting you the other day mate. I was a little disappointed in Liquid Lounge with the 20, 000 pesos entry fee.

I guess it comes with two drinks but as I drink water, its a bit steep.

A. G.

[QUOTE=CultureShock; 1459172]Opening of Liquid Lounge on Saturday was fun, and the girls from La Cueva came out. Ratio of girls to guys was 2:1, and more than a few went home alone.

More photos from the article below.

[url]http://www.latintravelvip.com/liquid-lounge-opens-in-medellin-colombia/[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1459721]CS, nice meeting you the other day mate. I was a little disappointed in Liquid Lounge with the 20, 000 pesos entry fee.

I guess it comes with two drinks but as I drink water, its a bit steep.

A. G.[/QUOTE]AG, likewise and I am looking forward to my stay at the Mansion.

I can understand why the cover charge may be a concern for those of us who do not drink so much. However, to be fair you should consider the bars in that location (Barrio Colombia). For example, just a block away the cover at the MIA Room is 20,000 pesos and it does not include any free drinks. I think it's at least $30 to get into Amara Unica, provided the doorman likes the way you are dressed and you have a token female in your group.

Comparing it to night clubs, there is a 10,000 peso cover at Fase II and that's earns you nothing except the privilege of buying a single beer for 16,000 pesos.

Probley because I live here and don't go out much and if I do want to do a little dancing, I have La Cueva at the Mansion, which costs nothing for me to enter.
I just thought it was a little steep, that's all.
As for Amara Unica and MIA Room, I live here and never been, might have to go and check it out!
FASE II 10, 000, gone up from 5, 000 ?
This long weekend, taking a group of tourists to Hacienda Napoli's and Puerto Barrio on the Rio Magdalena.

A. G.

[QUOTE=CultureShock; 1459729]AG, likewise and I am looking forward to my stay at the Mansion.

I can understand why the cover charge may be a concern for those of us who do not drink so much. However, to be fair you should consider the bars in that location (Barrio Colombia). For example, just a block away the cover at the MIA Room is 20, 000 pesos and it does not include any free drinks. I think it's at least $30 to get into Amara Unica, provided the doorman likes the way you are dressed and you have a token female in your group.

Comparing it to night clubs, there is a 10, 000 peso cover at Fase II and that's earns you nothing except the privilege of buying a single beer for 16, 000 pesos.[/QUOTE]

Post a trip report of P Barrio and Rio magdalena later if you feel like?

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1459766]This long weekend, taking a group of tourists to Hacienda Napoli's and Puerto Barrio on the Rio Magdalena.

A. G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1458251]I infrequently stay at the Mansion, but highly recommend it for new visitors to Medellin. But the notion that it will rent rooms on a "short time" basis is an idea that ought to be reexamined. It would be disruptive and only bring more problems. There are plenty of love motels, I would not stay in one as my hotel. Is someone thinking?[/QUOTE]I agree with this too. I was planning on staying at the mansion, but I may need to reconsider.

What are some local Colombian real estate websites? Want to get an idea of what is available and for what price.

Thanks

[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1459829]What are some local Colombian real estate websites? Want to get an idea of what is available and for what price.

Thanks[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.firstamericanrealtymedellin.com/?gclid=CI3I1omThbkCFS3hQgodpH4AOg[/url]

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1450965]Since, I'm not that up on the wireless technology, I was wondering if this phone could be used in other countries? Ideally, it would be nice to have a smartphone that could be used in multiple locations, and just switch the card. I keep acquiring shit ones, and leaving them wherever I go.The reason that I bought this phone is that it can be used in almost any country (possible exceptions are Japan and South Korea). The "quad band" part means that it works on 4 "bands" which are radio frequencies that different countries operate on, most countries will be covered under a quad band phone. All the Americas. Europe. Asia. (I have seen reports that exceptions are Japan and South Korea) I'm not sure what countries it does not work in. If you are not worried about data and internet (I really like GPS maps and translator as well as looking having FB other social networks to check messages on the go) then there are even much cheaper phones you can get that are like the cheap ones I used to buy in other countries...[/QUOTE]Thank you for this post. I'm on the hunt for a Colombian cell phone up grade and a gift.

I'd second that. I've stayed at his places only twice, but the limited experiences that I've had with Rich's places have left me with a very good opinion of his outfit and the way they do business. Most of the people I've talked to that have either bought or rented from them say they are straight players.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1460052][url]Http://www.firstamericanrealtymedellin.com/?gclid=CI3I1omThbkCFS3hQgodpH4AOg[/url][/QUOTE][QUOTE=CaliPro; 1459829]What are some local Colombian real estate websites? Want to get an idea of what is available and for what price.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ouzo 12;1458969]Dude, you practically live on this board, get a life![/QUOTE]Based on Save's reports and life travels, I'm guessing he has had, and is having, one pretty sweet fucking life! Crawl back into the 8th grade because I think you obviously flunked life dude.

I will be staying at the Mansion again from Dec 4th thru Dec 12th and I can barely contain my excitement.

I was lucky enough on my 1st trip to meet the Liquid Lounge guy on here and another seasoned Mansion vet and they have suggested many lovelies that I need to try out when I return.

Anyone else staying there during this timeframe?

Ok here is the deal. I have already booked my trip with 4 of my friends to mde for one week. I emailed casa Blanca and was only given an option in plaza 2? I am not familiar with the hotel or its location but ill assume that it's centrally located near the hot spots. Also I opted to buy 5 rooms for one week and they offer no discount, only if I book a month. Well I'm booking 35 days so I figure that should count for something. I am searching for another option and I just don't want to throw a dart or pick random. We are looking for a wild fun and great located hotel. Any help is appreciated. If your in town when we are ill buy you a few drinks for the help!

[QUOTE=Bairstan; 1460282]I will be staying at the Mansion again from Dec 4th thru Dec 12th and I can barely contain my excitement.

I was lucky enough on my 1st trip to meet the Liquid Lounge guy on here and another seasoned Mansion vet and they have suggested many lovelies that I need to try out when I return.

Anyone else staying there during this timeframe?[/QUOTE]I'm not so lucky as you but IMO the last week of Nov and the first few before Christmas are the best weeks! Lots of parties, things to do, and all these extra girls / part timers need Christmas money so they get back on their grind! Awesome! Report back!

When I went to Costa Rica there was a map that had been constructed with all casas mps pick up spots etc. Does such a thing exist for mde?

[QUOTE=George Sims;1460449]When I went to Costa Rica there was a map that had been constructed with all casas mps pick up spots etc. Does such a thing exist for mde?[/QUOTE]Here you go.

[url]https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=206810231178282017429.000494779e6b2fb07f4d4[/url]

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1459510]It, with its sister property which just up the hill from the Mansion, are bed and breakfast places. The guests are almost exclusively European, Australian and from the USA There are a number of young women (most are university students) that come by to lay by the pool or the private club which in English is called "the cave." If they're there they are open to a couple of hours of personal attention for the usual sum of 150000 COP. I highly recommend the Mansion for the new visitor to Medellin. There are usually some seasoned visitors that have valuable information about the City of Eternal Spring. And, of course, take the time to read here.

Only good energy![/QUOTE]You also get some classy Canadians passing through as well.

Does anyone know who is the girl in the stripped skirt and black top in the link. If you rather PM me the details go ahead.

[QUOTE=CultureShock; 1459172]Opening of Liquid Lounge on Saturday was fun, and the girls from La Cueva came out. Ratio of girls to guys was 2:1, and more than a few went home alone.

More photos from the article below.

[url]http://www.latintravelvip.com/liquid-lounge-opens-in-medellin-colombia/[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1460817]Does anyone know who is the girl in the stripped skirt and black top in the link. If you rather PM me the details go ahead.[/QUOTE]I'm sure most guys that frequent the Mansion know her. Angelina Ortiz look her up on facebook. Not as hard to get a date with as Wendy but still has a line up of guys on her ass at all times so she isn't the easiest to get a hold of.

[QUOTE=George Sims;1460442]Ok here is the deal. I have already booked my trip with 4 of my friends to mde for one week. I emailed casa Blanca and was only given an option in plaza 2? I am not familiar with the hotel or its location but ill assume that it's centrally located near the hot spots. Also I opted to buy 5 rooms for one week and they offer no discount, only if I book a month. Well I'm booking 35 days so I figure that should count for something. I am searching for another option and I just don't want to throw a dart or pick random. We are looking for a wild fun and great located hotel. Any help is appreciated. If your in town when we are ill buy you a few drinks for the help![/QUOTE]I would suggest Poblado Rentals or First American Rentals. Poblado Rentals has many hobbysist stayinng with them and they can connect you with chicas, too.

[url]http://pobladorentals.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=George Sims;1460449]When I went to Costa Rica there was a map that had been constructed with all casas mps pick up spots etc. Does such a thing exist for mde?[/QUOTE]1. New Life Calle 56 (Bolivia) # 43-39, 2 piso, between Palo and Giradot. 15-20 Chicas. Prices: 38k 30 min. 52k 45 min. 65k hour. Tel: 216 27 04. Hours: Monday to Saturday. 9am to 8pm, Sundays 10am to 6pm.

2. Aiffe Calle 57 (Argentina) #43-27 or (33).5-6 Chicas. Prices: 32k 30 min. 55k hour. Tel: (57) (4) 254 51 39, Cell: 311 761 98 50. Hours: Monday to Thursday 10am to 8, Friday and Saturday 10am to 9pm, Sund.

3. Lindas Chicas Calle 58 (Av. Oriental) # 50A-54, Big White Metal Gate. Prices: Chica 100k 1 hour. 80k room fee. 275k TLN. 75k Exit Fee.

4. Barcelona Calle 59 (Cuba) # 50-12. 4-6 Chicas. Prices: 30k-40k 30 min. 45k-60k hour. Tel: 254-29 94. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10am to 8pm. Sundays 11am to 5pm.

5. Angeles de Fuego Calle 58 (Av. Oriental) # 45D-104. _ Chicas. Prices: 33k 30 min. Tel: (57) (4) 254 40 54, Cell: 311 381 9198. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10am to 8pm.

6. Punto de Encuentro Calle 59, #49-12 Tel. 312 749 0345.

7. Casa de Fantasias Calle 57 (La Paz) # 50-19. 5+ Chicas. Prices: 33k hh. Tel: 511 38 76, 511 54 75, Cell: 317 422 6042. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10am to 8pm.

8. Sara # 57-71, in front of the Parqueadero. Monday to Saturday 10 Chicas, Sundays 5 Chicas. Prices: 30k 30 min. 45k 45 min. 50k hour. Tel: 254 86 22. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10am to 7:30pm, Sundays 11am.

9. Masajes de Sexi Carrera 45D # 57-67. 254-5736. 10-15 Chicas. Prices: 30k 30 min. 40k 40 min. 50k hour.

10. Club Seduccion Carrera 43 (Girardot) # 52-45. __ Chicas. Prices: __k 30 min, __k hour. Tel: 2 39 36 20. Hours: 10am until 7:30pm.

11. Club de Amigas Carrera 45 (El Palo) # 57-55. 12+ Chicas. Prices: 30k 30 min. 50k hour. 2 Chicas 60k 45 min / hour, US$60 take out. Tel: (57) (4) 284 83 86. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10am-8pm, Sundays & Holidays 11am.

12. Angeles & Demonios Calle 53 # 43-07 3er Piso. Prices: __k 30 min, __K hour. Tel: 239 47 41.

13. Sexy Fantasias 1 / Chicas Punto Com.

14. Sexy Fantasias 1 (3F). Calle 54 (Caracas) # 49-97, Local 321, Centro Comercial Boulevar de Caracas. Piso 3 Prices: 33k 30 min. 45k 45 min. 60k hour. Tel: 511 45 33. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10am to.

15. Sexy Fantasias 2 Latinas Carrera 47 (Sucre) # 53-42, piso 1, (Hotel Premium Plaza) , (diagonal Teatro Sinfonia) 8-10 Chicas. Prices: 30k 30 min. 45k 45 min. 60k hour. 100k+ TLN. Tel: 511 39 76. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10am.

16. Encuentros Calle 49 # 43-68. 4-6 Chicas. Prices: 30k 30 min. 45k 45 min. 50k hour. Tel: (57) (4) 262 24 98. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10am to 8pm, Sundays 11am to 5pm.

17. Zandaly Cra. 47 #57A-34 (2nd floor) they moved from the old Afroditas address. 30K=30mins. 40K=40mins. 50K=60mins.

18. Paris Club Cra47 No. 56-34. Tel 511-53-51 M-Sat 10-7:30, sun 11-5.

19. Atenea / Coffee Shop Cra 45 No. 55-45. Tel 254-5234. M-St 10-7:30, Sn11-5. 32K=30mins. 42K=45mins. 52K=60mins. Optional to take girls to motel next door with nicer rooms for 5K-7K additional depending on length of sessio.

20. Energy Energy (Centro de Relajacion Corporal Energy) , Carrera 74 # 49-101, near Calle 50 (Colombia) right next to the Stadium. 15-20 Chicas. Prices: 65k 30 min. 90k 60 min. Tel: 436 11 31, 416 83 32. Hours:.

21. Las Americas (Strip Club) Calle 53 # 49-50. 25-30 Chicas. 2 shifts. 2pm and 7pm. Prices: 50k 30 min. 40k Take Out Fee. Hours: Monday to Sunday. 2pm to 3am, Closed Sundays.

22. Club Maracaibo (Strip Club) Calle 53 # 49-30. 25-30 Chicas. Prices: Beer 4k, Chicas 50k 30 min. 40k Take Out Fee. Hours: Monday to Sunday. 6pm to 2am.

23. Ejecutivo (Strip Club) Calle 53 # 48-20. 25-40 Chicas. Prices: 50k 30 min. 50k Take Out Fee. Hours: Monday to Sunday. 6pm to 2am.

24. Conejitas Bar Show (Strip Club) Carrera 52 # 53-03. __ Chicas. Prices: Beer 4k, Chicas 50k 30 min. Tel: (57) (4) 251 62 68. Hours: Monday to Sunday. 6pm to 3am.

25. Bell Suite Carrera 45 (El Palo) # 56-45, piso 1. 3-5 Chicas. Prices: 25k 30 min. 35k 45 min. 45k hour. Tel: 284 75 97. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10am to 8pm, Sundays 11am to 5pm.

26. Sarita Clle 55 No. 43-72. Ph:239-3345. M-Sat 10-7:30, Sun 11-5. 35hh / 55h.

27. Club Anfitrion Calle 33 # 76-93. 6-8 Chicas. Prices: 5k Drinks. 50k bottle, includes a room. 2 chicas and 2 shows, Chicas: 50-70k hour. 10-20k room. 160k TLN. 50k Take out Fee. Tel: 416 66 01. Cell: 301 565 7479. As.

28. Samsara Club Calle (Avenida) 33 # 65-09. 6-10 Chicas. Prices: Beers 3k, Chicas 50k 30 min. 60k hour. Tel: (57) (4) 265 71 23, Cell: 314 638 28 93. Hours: 10am to 10pm, Friday to Sundays 10am. 6am.

29. Artesanias, Calle 61 (Moore) #53-78. 15 Chicas. Prices: 7k Room. 30k Chica. Tel: 512 06 59. Hours: Monday to Sunday. 10am to 5pm.

30. La Manzana (Bar) La Manzana, (Remates) Calle 65 # 52-69, behind the Hospital. 10+ Chicas. Prices: 30k 30 min. 50k hour. 100-200k TLN. H

My guess is, because he's TweedleD.

[QUOTE=Ricardo Torres; 1461348]Tweedle.

Why would you waste all the bandwidth to post that list when a simple message directing him where to find it would have been appropriate. Smh[/QUOTE]

Anyone have an update on the strike in Colombia.

I just got off of yahoo with a novia from Bogota and her daughter is stranded in Medellin. Her other daughter who lives about 30 blocks north of her can not get home to her mothers house as the busses are on strike.

My novias barrio is running short on fresh items as most Latinas shop daily for fresh items.

I have not heard from my friend in Medellin as the phones there do not seem to work.

Zing are you in BOG? Any update?

Mel

Don't know-I've been all over Laureles, downtown and Parque Explora without any trouble. I do know that there's a problem with the buses, but the airlines are still running. Also, the store next to me has fresh items, they brought them in from the Minorista this morning, I think.

[QUOTE=Mel365; 1461476]Anyone have an update on the strike in Colombia.

I just got off of yahoo with a novia from Bogota and her daughter is stranded in Medellin. Her other daughter who lives about 30 blocks north of her can not get home to her mothers house as the busses are on strike.

My novias barrio is running short on fresh items as most Latinas shop daily for fresh items.

I have not heard from my friend in Medellin as the phones there do not seem to work.

Zing are you in BOG? Any update?

Mel[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jonesie;1460091]I'd second that. I've stayed at his places only twice, but the limited experiences that I've had with Rich's places have left me with a very good opinion of his outfit and the way they do business. Most of the people I've talked to that have either bought or rented from them say they are straight players.[/QUOTE]This site is also a very good option. Same company that owns First American rental now owns this. I don't know why why they keep the inventory separate. I stayed with them few times and they are good folks.

[url]http://theapartmentmedellin.com[/url]

On Monday (public holiday here) there was a miners strike and also a transport strike (buses ect) only on Monday.
As for short of fresh items, bullshit mate or because its a long weekend probley some items were sold out.
I was on tour in the countryside and if I had left early on Monday, I could have driven though the main strike area Puerto Barrio-Medellin road but decided to return the way I came back though Doradal and the Medellin-Bogota highway.
The only hang-up was a landslide that held us up 1 hour going and 2 hours when we returned, armed guards were looking after the long lines of vehicle's because of bandits.
From the front lines.

A. G.

[QUOTE=Mel365; 1461476]Anyone have an update on the strike in Colombia.

I just got off of yahoo with a novia from Bogota and her daughter is stranded in Medellin. Her other daughter who lives about 30 blocks north of her can not get home to her mothers house as the busses are on strike.

My novias barrio is running short on fresh items as most Latinas shop daily for fresh items.

I have not heard from my friend in Medellin as the phones there do not seem to work.

Zing are you in BOG? Any update?

Mel[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Member #3060; 1457274]Hello,

I'm looking for some seasoned pros of Colombia to recommend some "girl friendly" hotels if possible.

I'll be in Bogota, Medellin, Cali, Cartagena and Barranquilla.

I'm looking for hotels that are close to the action, reasonably priced and of course, girl friendly. I'm used to the Thai scene and like the hotels with security guards that record the I'd's of your guests. I prefer taking a girl for the whole night. How common is it to do "toda la noche" in Colombia, ? Or is this a bad idea here?

I've scoured the forum but haven't found a lot of hotel recommendation. Tripadvisor and lonelyplanet rarely put "Chica amistoso" in the hotel descriptions.

Any advice or tips on this would be greatly appreciate.

Thanks![/QUOTE]As far as I know, almost all hotel in MDE are girl friendly. Make sure you book a room for two. Some like hotel charlie and hotel Diez I believe charge extra when you bring in a girl. As suggested, read the hotel thread.

I paid for this user thread mentioned above in the title and I hope you get a chance to look through some of the posts before you make a decision on where to stay or take a tour. Thanks.

Jake

While the strike has not garnered the type of violent unrest that Brazil suffered during the Confederation's Cup protests, Colombian media is reporting clashes between protestors and police in some areas, with roads into the capital of Bogotá blocked by overturned vehicles and fuel and food shortages in some municipalities.

Colombian newspaper El Tiempo reported that around 32, 000 people have so far been involved in the strike, with 61 people arrested as of Tuesday night.

Read more: [url]http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2013/08/21/national-strike-grows-in-colombia-as-police-clash-with-demonstrators/[/url]#ixzz2cdaG5TDm

No buses on Monday (public holiday) because of the strike, the only hold up was a land slide on the Medellin to Bogota highway for a few hours.

As for the 61 people arrested, that's all over Colombia and only in certain areas, but anyway, make it as you want.

I did go into one gas station and they didn't have any corriente (low leaded fuel) but the next fuel station did.

All the press is a load of bullshit mate, any way its Colombia, there's always overturned vehicles and protests, bombs, war ect, in fact over 60 years of it.

A. G.

[QUOTE=Mel365; 1461868]While the strike has not garnered the type of violent unrest that Brazil suffered during the Confederation's Cup protests, Colombian media is reporting clashes between protestors and police in some areas, with roads into the capital of Bogotá blocked by overturned vehicles and fuel and food shortages in some municipalities.

Colombian newspaper El Tiempo reported that around 32, 000 people have so far been involved in the strike, with 61 people arrested as of Tuesday night.

Read more:

[url]http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2013/08/21/national-strike-grows-in-colombia-as-police-clash-with-demonstrators/[/url]

#ixzz2cdaG5TDm[/QUOTE]

Greg,

Thanks-my novias daughter just got back home from a gymnastic competition in mde

How is cricket going?

Did you start a MDE team?

Mel

Hi Mel,

Yep, the only issue for her was no buses on Monday and the land slide on the road to Bogota from Medellin.

Cricket, great, spent 3 months in India and Bangladesh early this year watching the Australian team get flogged, going to Australia for our summer to watch England play in Australia on home soil and then on the way back to Colombia, a month and a half in South Africa watching Australia get flogged again, and a few wildlife tours in Zim and Zambia. I'll need a holiday mate in St Maartin when I get back!

Medellin team! I conduct interviews nearly every night mate "its a girl team"!

A. G.

[QUOTE=Mel365; 1461885]Greg,

Thanks-my novias daughter just got back home from a gymnastic competition in mde

How is cricket going?

Did you start a MDE team?

Mel[/QUOTE]

Is Halloween widely celebrated in MDE? Is that a good time to visit the city?

After Colombiamoda and the Flower Festival, the best time but is the rainy season.

A. G.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1461954]Is Halloween widely celebrated in MDE? Is that a good time to visit the city?[/QUOTE]

Can my fellow mde mongers help me out. I willbe there shortly and I'm looking for casas like the link below but that offer 3 holers. I'm looking for young light skinned busty cute 3 holers. I'm sure I'm not asking for a fabled unicorn here, there must be places with this. If you prefer to pm me so to keep privacy go ahead. I will write a detailed report when I return.

I will be in town next week and wanted to hear the members impressions / experience at the new Liquid Lounge. Are the guys going? Are the girls staying? What's the choice look like?

What do the girls want for a little time back at the apt? Thanks Farmworker

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1462168]Can my fellow mde mongers help me out. I willbe there shortly and I'm looking for casas like the link below but that offer 3 holers. I'm looking for young light skinned busty cute 3 holers. I'm sure I'm not asking for a fabled unicorn here, there must be places with this. If you prefer to pm me so to keep privacy go ahead. I will write a detailed report when I return.[/QUOTE]Is there actually a place renowned for it's three holers in Medellin? Jajaja

I have no idea.

But the topic reminds me of a guy that took me out to one of those prepago bars.

He was chatting up a real looker for quite a while and then he tells her that he needs "tres servicios".

The girl looked at him and said well I can strip for you. He replied I don't need four I only need three services.

The girl said "no" and he turned his back on her and never looked at her or spoke with her again.

At first I thought he was just playing with her. But he never acknowledged her after that.

Personally I was a little surprised that the third hole was so important that he would just completely blow off the hottest chick in the place.

I'm sure you can find what you are looking for. The only question is what will it cost for the extra hole and how far down the food chain are you willing to go.

My advice would be just go for women that are attractive and into you and forgo the third hole until you just happen upon one that is naturally inclined to oblige. Going out looking for three holers exclusively doesn't seem like a good way to spend your limited time in Medellin unless it is really that important to you.

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1462168]Can my fellow mde mongers help me out. I willbe there shortly and I'm looking for casas like the link below but that offer 3 holers. I'm looking for young light skinned busty cute 3 holers. I'm sure I'm not asking for a fabled unicorn here, there must be places with this. If you prefer to pm me so to keep privacy go ahead. I will write a detailed report when I return.[/QUOTE]Have to agree with CaliHental on this. In several visits to MDE, I've never analized a Paisa. My guess is with most of them, if you get to know them a bit (3-4 sessions) , a few might be open to it. If you want anal on short order, you're better off heading to Rio, where it's almost taken for granted.

[QUOTE=Combo;1462337]Have to agree with CaliHental on this. In several visits to MDE, I've never analized a Paisa. My guess is with most of them, if you get to know them a bit (3-4 sessions) , a few might be open to it. If you want anal on short order, you're better off heading to Rio, where it's almost taken for granted.[/QUOTE]There should be a sub form for the same old same old questions. Where can I meet normal girls if I don't speak any Spanish? Where should I stay? Where can I get Anal? I can't remember the other constants.

Top of the page, right hand side, clear, empty space, it's the search area. This would be a good place to search for "anal" seeing as how one word can sum up what you're looking for vs a phrase like "meeting normal girls"

I'm with Combo & Cali on this one. Anal is just not on most working girls menus. If you do use the "search feature" this exact same question.

Not very common in Colombia, most girls I've "approached" about Anal has looked at me with shock and a firm no. Argentina and from what Cali says Brazil is where you want to be. Both have very pretty working girls and Anal in Argentina was called "servicio completo" and was $15 extra when I was last in BA. Good times. In my personal life I've also had several Peruvian chicks love anal.

Greg,

I will be in St Martin about Nov 9 for a week and then back mid January for about 10 days.

February I will be sailing to the new marina in Santa Marta.

Will be in Colombia on an off till late June then sailing back to.

The USA. If any of these dates line up with yours, you can have a private cabin on my boat.

Just PM me.

Mel.

QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1461902]Hi Mel,

Yep, the only issue for her was no buses on Monday and the land slide on the road to Bogota from Medellin.

Cricket, great, spent 3 months in India and Bangladesh early this year watching the Australian team get flogged, going to Australia for our summer to watch England play in Australia on home soil and then on the way back to Colombia, a month and a half in South Africa watching Australia get flogged again, and a few wildlife tours in Zim and Zambia. I'll need a holiday mate in St Maartin when I get back!

Medellin team! I conduct interviews nearly every night mate "its a girl team"!

A. G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FarmWorker; 1462185]I will be in town next week and wanted to hear the members impressions / experience at the new Liquid Lounge. Are the guys going? Are the girls staying? What's the choice look like?

What do the girls want for a little time back at the apt? Thanks Farmworker[/QUOTE]Liquid Lounge is the best thing since sliced bread.)

Actually there are always girls there now. We made some special arrangements to make sure of that until they start discovering it on their own. I personally know some really sweet chicas that are anxious for a place to (exploit) I mean "meet" gringos, but have never heard of us or are too timid to go on their own. I have the distasteful job of escorting them to Liquid when I arrive Sept 5th.

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1462139]After Colombiamoda and the Flower Festival, the best time but is the rainy season.

A. G.[/QUOTE]Thanks, it seems like its the rainy season in a lot of places around then.

Is there a such thing as too much pussy? I've been awash in it the last few days, worn the hell out now and it's only Friday, LOL.

One quick observation: I am starting to see a lot of gringos here now. More so than any of my other trips. And not just Norteamericanos. I'm positive it was German that I heard from a group of young male and females the other day. Also noticing a larger security/police presence. Not sure if the two are connected. But what I like about Medellin is that everyone minds their own business. Also what is great about this place is that you do not have to worry about getting shook down by the police like in the DR.

The weather has been beautiful here. The only rain we had so far was Wednesday night. Still have not eaten any really good food here. Love Leños y Carbon but its starting to get old.

Going to have to muster up some more strength because I've got a chica coming over in a few (#4). I think Red Bull with Vodka and Cialis should do the trick.

Signing off.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1462901]Is there a such thing as too much pussy? I've been awash in it the last few days, worn the hell out now and it's only Friday, LOL.

One quick observation: I am starting to see a lot of gringos here now. More so than any of my other trips. And not just Norteamericanos. I'm positive it was German that I heard from a group of young male and females the other day. Also noticing a larger security / police presence. Not sure if the two are connected. But what I like about Medellin is that everyone minds their own business. Also what is great about this place is that you do not have to worry about getting shook down by the police like in the DR.

The weather has been beautiful here. The only rain we had so far was Wednesday night. Still have not eaten any really good food here. Love Leños why Carbon but its starting to get old.

Going to have to muster up some more strength because I've got a chica coming over in a few (#4). I think Red Bull with Vodka and Cialis should do the trick.

Signing off.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the 10cent report but we need some meat on the bone! LOL! Start with the chick you having over tonight. PICS! Or at least a name and a graphic description!

More Gringos? Yep. Maybe the time of year. Moda Colombia and Fiera De Flores just passed no? This is the busy time for them I think. Some of the guys what live down there please chime in with your observations. I hate people / crowds and I'm cheap when it comes to travel costs (all bets and restraint goes out the window when I'm in the mix) so I try to avoid the busy times.

The Food in Colombia and Medellin sucks! Lenos why Carbon? The Cheap Steak house place? I like them too. Try Archies they have some pretty good food for a chain; it's Italy food.

Reprt back bro!

Just came back from a trip to Rio. I am happy to announce that I prefer MDE over Rio and Paisas over Garotas. Had a good time in Rio but MDE is where my heart is. This is a purely personal feeling based on several factors and in no way a generalization that should be applied by future mongers that have not been to either of the places.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1462930]Just came back from a trip to Rio. I am happy to announce that I prefer MDE over Rio and Paisas over Garotas. Had a good time in Rio but MDE is where my heart is. This is a purely personal feeling based on several factors and in no way a generalization that should be applied by future mongers that have not been to either of the places.[/QUOTE]I have been to both and I enjoyed both of them. Although, I've been only once to Medellin and close to 7 or 8 times to Rio. However, Rio is now so expensive that I find Medellin to be a better deal. No more Rio for me.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1462901]Going to have to muster up some more strength because I've got a chica coming over in a few (#4). I think Red Bull with Vodka and Cialis should do the trick.[/QUOTE]Glad I took that Cialis and Torro Rojo con Vodka. Chica that showed up was the second case I've ran into this trip where "You looked hotter on the internet." She still was very tight, but I would not have pulled the trigger had I had the chance to preview (see her in person) her before calling her over.

8 Chicas and counting...

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1462901]One quick observation: I am starting to see a lot of gringos here now. More so than any of my other trips. And not just Norteamericanos. I'm positive it was German that I heard from a group of young male and females the other day. Also noticing a larger security / police presence. Not sure if the two are connected. But what I like about Medellin is that everyone minds their own business. Also what is great about this place is that you do not have to worry about getting shook down by the police like in the DR.

The weather has been beautiful here. The only rain we had so far was Wednesday night. Still have not eaten any really good food here. Love Leños why Carbon but its starting to get old.[/QUOTE]I noticed the increase in foreigners on my most recent trip also. Most of them were wearing shorts and flip flops. These same people are wandering around in Centro and other areas with their cameras out and not having a clue.

Rainy season not as bad in MDE as many nearby countries to the north where it rains almost every afternoon. The climate is definitely a huge positive in MDE.

As far as the food I am with you. Gets old real fast. Not to mention the spoiled ingredient in the food that puts your stomach in a knot every few weeks. For you guys who like to stay in with your girls there are good delivery options in Mde, if in the El Poblado area, for all types of food. From pizza and subway to steak and fish, almost everything is available for delivery.

Good luck with the rest of your trip.

Yes, Lenos Y Carbon is great, but I also like J&C Delicias for delivery. They have a chicken Marsala type dish which is great and lasts 2 meals for me. I agree with Vegas Jeff about the food poisoning frequency. I've actually only gotten it once in 15 trips, but it was horrible.

[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff; 1462965]I noticed the increase in foreigners on my most recent trip also. Most of them were wearing shorts and flip flops. These same people are wandering around in Centro and other areas with their cameras out and not having a clue.

Rainy season not as bad in MDE as many nearby countries to the north where it rains almost every afternoon. The climate is definitely a huge positive in MDE.

As far as the food I am with you. Gets old real fast. Not to mention the spoiled ingredient in the food that puts your stomach in a knot every few weeks. For you guys who like to stay in with your girls there are good delivery options in Mde, if in the El Poblado area, for all types of food. From pizza and subway to steak and fish, almost everything is available for delivery.

Good luck with the rest of your trip.[/QUOTE]The trick for me was finding enough places that had food I liked. When I first moved here I wasn't happy about the food situation, but soon found enough restaurants, street vendors, etc that I now eat pretty good, and am happy enough with the variety. Still not like in the states but not as bad as I first thought. I've found a couple of good restaurants that serve a decent to awesome menu al dia, and don't over cook the meat until it's like beef jerky. Found a couple of great places for empanadas, a street food cart that has awesome chuzo de pollo, etc etc etc. Just have to experiment and find some places you like. Also finding a paisa that knows how to cook helps too, a home cooked meal is nice every once in a while.

I've been living here full time for about 2 1/2 years and have never gotten sick from the food. Check that, there was one time when I ate something from a street vendor before going to La Manzana. By the time we got there I had to shit so bad I asked a guy that worked there where the restroom was and he pointed me to where the urinals were. I shit you not visions of shitting in the urinal flashed through my head before I went and told the guy I "tengo que hacer mierda" he laughed his ass off and showed me where the toilet was in a back room. FYI po po may be a better noun to use if you ever find yourself in the same situation.

But that was the only time in 2 1/2 years the food got me. Knock on wood LOL.

And as far as all the gringos, that's life in a city as awesome as Medellin. I live in el centro though so I don't see as much of the mochileros as say people that live in poblado.

I was in between Medellin and Bogota, I'm a big strip club guy, I spend over $200-400USD every night I go to a strip club in Miami, Fl but after reading a little more on Bogota and Medellin girls, I think Medellin is the place for me not only for the girls but for the clubs, nightlife, tits, and fake asses. I am going with 3 other dudes to purely Mongor in October. We will be there for 2-3 weeks.

Any word of advice on what to expect weather wise? October is the rainy season does that mean that not many chicks go out as much?

I also heard that non-pro Medellin girls like well groomed and well dressed guys wearing dress pants, ties, vests, blazers, etc. Is this accurate or will this attract unwanted attention from those scum thiefs and muggers?

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1462917]Thanks for the 10cent report but we need some meat on the bone! LOL![/QUOTE]I will try, LOL. I'm trying to come at it at another angle instead of the usual drink, bang, eat, sleep, drink bang, eat sleep. That's really all I've been doing so far.

Got a civilian I am about to go to dinner with. We'll see how that goes as it will be a first for me here in Medellin.

I was seriously considering posting some photos after my trip, but just saw that my friend Tomjackin just got blasted by a chica in Sosua:

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1463279]The last picture I posted in this thread, some fucking scumbag took the photo and posted it on a different Web site. I know because I was confronted by the girl today.

Listen you piece of shit, there is a reason I don't post faces and names, it is because of lowlifes like yourself!

Read the fucking rules dirt bag! I highly suggest you take my stolen picture down off the internet. Because your shitty life will catch up with you, and hopefully, before I do!

It's just a matter of time![/QUOTE]Keep in mind that this photo of the chica he posted didn't have a face or even identifying markings on her body.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1462917]Start with the chick you having over tonight. PICS! Or at least a name and a graphic description![/QUOTE]See comments above. Too many Cyber-Snitches out there. Ain't nobody got time for that!

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1463493]I was seriously considering posting some photos after my trip, but just saw that my friend Tomjackin just got blasted by a chica in Sosua:

Keep in mind that this photo of the chica he posted didn't have a face or even identifying markings on her body.

See comments above. Too many Cyber-Snitches out there. Ain't nobody got time for that![/QUOTE]I think there is no argument that photo posting carries a risk and should NEVER be done without the girl's consent. If the girl consented to one website, I doubt if she would have a problem if it is reposted to another site (I am not saying what happened here is right and reposting without consent is repugnant).

I don't see an issue with first names though (last names are banned on ISG). Most names girls use are pseudo and are not directly identifiable by family and close friends but regardless and most importantly, first names are freely doled out by the girls themselves. They want to be known and popular among the select forums that have common interests and is clearly good for their business, especially if they are good service providers. Most posts that describe an encounter without a name, read more like chest thumpers and are of little use to the rest of the members. It might as well be fiction and there is a lot of that On the internet. Anyway, that is my personal philosophy and I post first names and all the details I can, including generous exchange of phone numbers via PM, so the next guy could benefit and I have never been burned.

Hey Friends,

I've had a chance this week to be in Medellin for the first time, in fact in South or Central America for the first time, period. Have only had a chance to travel outside US a few times. Here for work for a special event. Most of my time is accounted for with work and co-workers, but I've gotten out three nights for a few hours very late. Read some of the stuff on here and otherwise kinda winged it. Actually, I didn't even realize I could post on here as a senior member without an extra ISG membership.

Anyway, I had two experiences at an Encuentros Grill (I think that's the name) close to the Stadio where I'm staying. It's a small strip club on Calle 50 between (I think) Carrera 69 and 70. I recommend Olga, an slender black spinner. As it seems is true for most from what I see and read, she insisted everything be covered. But she was GFE with me in terms of kissing and she was sweet, etc. I also ventured down to the red light district near the strip clubs on Calle 53. Man, what a combat zone!

More on all those adventures, but with a short time left, wondering if I can get a little help on finding a gal who'll do it all uncovered and be a total GFE. I'm open to whatever kind of mongering that might lead me to such a gal, whether it be strip clubs or otherwise.

By the way, I haven't been able to go to any Casas yet because it seems they're only open til early evening. Can anyone explain why? Is it so they don't compete against the clubs? I can't get out til 11 at night. I'm bummed about that, but my strip club and street experiences have sure been interesting!

Please advise! Thanks!

The strip clubs in El Centro will have sloppy (BBBJ) GFE w / cfs.

[QUOTE=TwistedBrother; 1463562]Hey Friends,

I've had a chance this week to be in Medellin for the first time, in fact in South or Central America for the first time, period. Have only had a chance to travel outside US a few times. Here for work for a special event. Most of my time is accounted for with work and co-workers, but I've gotten out three nights for a few hours very late. Read some of the stuff on here and otherwise kinda winged it. Actually, I didn't even realize I could post on here as a senior member without an extra ISG membership.

Anyway, I had two experiences at an Encuentros Grill (I think that's the name) close to the Stadio where I'm staying. It's a small strip club on Calle 50 between (I think) Carrera 69 and 70...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FrankieBallSac; 1463228]I was in between Medellin and Bogota, I'm a big strip club guy, I spend over $200-400USD every night I go to a strip club in Miami, Fl but after reading a little more on Bogota and Medellin girls, I think Medellin is the place for me not only for the girls but for the clubs, nightlife, tits, and fake asses. I am going with 3 other dudes to purely Mongor in October. We will be there for 2-3 weeks.

Any word of advice on what to expect weather wise? October is the rainy season does that mean that not many chicks go out as much?

I also heard that non-pro Medellin girls like well groomed and well dressed guys wearing dress pants, ties, vests, blazers, etc. Is this accurate or will this attract unwanted attention from those scum thiefs and muggers?[/QUOTE]Well dressed, of course, you will be watched by thugs looking for easy prey! The good thing is that won't be traveling alone (safety in numbers) , and other guys being with you, you should experience the night life, live it up! Late night, the hoes come out to play, be careful of the tranis!

At night hoes every where!

Hello All, I am renting a big penthouse and plan on having private party (s) the week of Aug 28th, if you happen to be in Medellin during that week, please PM me

The cost of entry should be minimal just pay for the liquor and food etc.

[QUOTE=TwistedBrother; 1463562]Hey Friends,

I've had a chance this week to be in Medellin for the first time, in fact in South or Central America for the first time, period. Have only had a chance to travel outside US a few times. Here for work for a special event. Most of my time is accounted for with work and co-workers, but I've gotten out three nights for a few hours very late. Read some of the stuff on here and otherwise kinda winged it. Actually, I didn't even realize I could post on here as a senior member without an extra ISG membership.

Anyway, I had two experiences at an Encuentros Grill (I think that's the name) close to the Stadio where I'm staying. It's a small strip club on Calle 50 between (I think) Carrera 69 and 70. I recommend Olga, an slender black spinner. As it seems is true for most from what I see and read, she insisted everything be covered. But she was GFE with me in terms of kissing and she was sweet, etc. I also ventured down to the red light district near the strip clubs on Calle 53. Man, what a combat zone!

More on all those adventures, but with a short time left, wondering if I can get a little help on finding a gal who'll do it all uncovered and be a total GFE. I'm open to whatever kind of mongering that might lead me to such a gal, whether it be strip clubs or otherwise.

By the way, I haven't been able to go to any Casas yet because it seems they're only open til early evening. Can anyone explain why? Is it so they don't compete against the clubs? I can't get out til 11 at night. I'm bummed about that, but my strip club and street experiences have sure been interesting!

Please advise! Thanks![/QUOTE]Brother, you are more likely to get help if you post some more of your "interesting" experiences in the last few days in MDE and if you pay the $20 and get senior status and PM privileges. You probably are spending couple of Gs on this trip so I am sure you can afford it.

Casas: If kissing = GFE for you, 95% of paisas are GFE. If you are after GFE in my sense of the phrase, you are not missing much by missing day time casas. Most are "wham bham thank you mam" style.

I'll be around this week, I just sent you a msg.

[QUOTE=DetJunky; 1463711]Hello All, I am renting a big penthouse and plan on having private party (s) the week of Aug 28th, if you happen to be in Medellin during that week, please PM me

The cost of entry should be minimal just pay for the liquor and food etc.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1463722]Brother, you are more likely to get help if you post some more of your "interesting" experiences in the last few days in MDE and if you pay the $20 and get senior status and PM privileges. You probably are spending couple of Gs on this trip so I am sure you can afford it.

Casas: If kissing = GFE for you. 95% of paisas are GFE. If you are after GFE in my sense of the phrase, you are not missing much by missing day time casas. Most are "wham bham thank you mam" style.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply (and to others so far, too). Regarding the membership, there was no deliberate attempt to sidestep anything. I tried logging in with my normal account, thinking I'd be required to register, and apparently not. If sure Jackson or "the system" will work as it's supposed to.

Like I said, my first two experiences were at Encuentro Grill, location I gave. These were both cases of meeting someone hanging outside and heading straight upstairs, rather than any time in the club downstairs. Humorous secret passageways and long, winding stairs to a series of nasty, but doable little bedrooms with mattresses. With this Olga on the first night, I went in with her and bought her a drink on the way up (7mil, I think) , then gave her 50mil for the deed. Not sure if that was too much for that place, but that was my first instinct. Like I said, CBJ and CFS. Didn't work for me since I hardly ever use jimmys, so she got some lotion and finished me off by hand. Like I said, she allowed the DFK, was nice and friendly, and a thin, black spinner, etc.

Second night went back there (after trolling around, considering other options, etc.) and got another gal. Afraid I never got her name, or forgot it. Anyway, she was white, nice smile but otherwise not great looking, not great bod. Bad impulsive choice. She also kissed and wanted everything covered. Things weren't working again and I just gave up and left.

Then I went on a probably ill-advised walk way down Calle 50, across the highway or freeaway, and into the hood that is near the Combat Zone. Just trolling for anything, but I didn't go far enough and it was late. Hardly saw a thing except for a few scary folks and other innocuous ones. I did find one old homeless gal and got her to start giving me a BJ in a corner of a building that was basically in plain site. But finally came to my senses on that before I got pinched.

Then last night, I took a cab into the Zone and wow, what a scene. All around those 4-6 blocks near the Calle 53 strip clubs by that big plaza, etc. I suspect everyone knows where it is. That was about three years worth of SWs I'd see in my city. I was blinded, scared, exhilarated, curious, everything. Heaven and Hell. As dangerous as it felt, in a way if sort of felt semi-safe, too. I can think of a lot of other crazy scenes in the USA I could have wandered into that would have felt more dangerous, just because of various factors. But other than a few folks begging for this and that, or trying to get me into their club, I wasn't bothered. Maybe I was lucky, LOL.

Anyway, I was hoping to find a gem and looked awhile. Finally found a girl with a bunch of others in a doorway for one of the ultra-cheap notels. She had this cute face and I went for it. She looked good, but turned out to be flabby, hairy and so on. Beyond the face, not much appeal.

But I had paid for the shitty little room and went for it. Got her to ditch the condoms and give me BBFS. She was nice, but otherwise not great. After I was done, I walked around awhile more, got something to eat, chatted with a few folks (LOL) , saw a lot of chicks who made me think,"Damn, I should have picked her," then finally got the hell out.

It's like, I want desperately to get back in there and, at the same time, never want to go back again. What a cluster.

Ok, finally, not that it really matters, but hell no I ain't spending a couple Gs on this trip. Company dime and with co-workers. I'm trying to play at night because it IS a lot cheaper than back home, of course.

Anyway, there it is. Sorry if I've offended anyone. I think I'm almost out of time and energy, so I may be done. I love your city, though. If my S. O. Back home ever ditches me, maybe I'll spend more time in the future, LOL.

Not sure why I'm listed with 8 posts. Maybe from long ago when they were combined. I have more than 2, 400 on USASG. Just so, you know, you don't think I don't help folks, LOL.

[QUOTE=Slick Rich33; 1463679]Well dressed, of course, you will be watched by thugs looking for easy prey! The good thing is that won't be traveling alone (safety in numbers) , and other guys being with you, you should experience the night life, live it up! Late night, the hoes come out to play, be careful of the tranis!

At night hoes every where![/QUOTE]Dress pants, Blazer and carrying $200-400. I don't know about the chicas, but you'll be a magnet for trouble.

You're always better off blending in and keeping a low profile. While MDE is dramatically safer than it was 10 years ago, people will notice you, and some will try to ascertain how profitable of a target you might be.

[QUOTE=TwistedBrother;1463744]Not sure why I'm listed with 8 posts. Maybe from long ago when they were combined. I have more than 2, 400 on USASG. Just so, you know, you don't think I don't help folks, LOL.[/QUOTE]I wish they did but the USASG posts do not count toward your post count in ISG and neither do the posts on the dedicated Argentina Forum. Welcome to Latin American mongering :-D.

[QUOTE=TwistedBrother; 1463743]Thanks for the reply (and to others so far, too). .

Like I said, my first two experiences were at Encuentro Grill, location I gave. These were both cases of meeting someone hanging outside and heading straight upstairs, rather than any time in the club downstairs. Humorous secret passageways and long, winding stairs to a series of nasty, but doable little bedrooms with mattresses. With this Olga on the first night, I went in with her and bought her a drink on the way up (7mil, I think) , then gave her 50mil for the deed. Not sure if that was too much for that place, but that was my first instinct. Like I said, CBJ and CFS. Didn't work for me since I hardly ever use jimmys, so she got some lotion and finished me off by hand. Like I said, she allowed the DFK, was nice and friendly, and a thin, black spinner, etc.

Second night went back there (after trolling around, considering other options, etc.) and got another gal. Afraid I never got her name, or forgot it. Anyway, she was white, nice smile but otherwise not great looking, not great bod. Bad impulsive choice. She also kissed and wanted everything covered. Things weren't working again and I just gave up and left.

Then I went on a probably ill-advised walk way down Calle 50, across the highway or freeaway, and into the hood that is near the Combat Zone. Just trolling for anything, but I didn't go far enough and it was late. Hardly saw a thing except for a few scary folks and other innocuous ones. I did find one old homeless gal and got her to start giving me a BJ in a corner of a building that was basically in plain site. But finally came to my senses on that before I got pinched.

Anyway, there it is. Sorry if I've offended anyone. I think I'm almost out of time and energy, so I may be done. I love your city, though. If my S. O. Back home ever ditches me, maybe I'll spend more time in the future, LOL.[/QUOTE]No offense. Since it looks like you already did the centro strip clubs, your only other night time choice is the other clubs or escorts. The later, neither I, nor most forum mongers do not have much experience with.

Of the non-centro clubs, If you do not care much about budget, go to Fase II or La Isla. Both will have decent to very good quality. Luna Luneres is a decent, slightly more reasonable option. I avoid San Diego club. I consider that to be a dump. Report back if you do.

Have met a lot of women on Facebook and I think I can tell who the Mansion girls. Their pricing seems high and what they provide kind of short term for it. (e. G, $COL 150.000 for 1-1/2 hour) Was paying that for 3-4 hours with non-Mansion girls earlier in the year. Anyone have color on current pricing now?

Thanks

[QUOTE=TwistedBrother; 1463743]Finally found a girl with a bunch of others in a doorway for one of the ultra-cheap notels. She had this cute face and I went for it. She looked good, but turned out to be flabby, hairy and so on. Beyond the face, not much appeal.

But I had paid for the shitty little room and went for it. Got her to ditch the condoms and give me BBFS. She was nice, but otherwise not great. After I was done, I walked around awhile more, got something to eat, chatted with a few folks (LOL) , saw a lot of chicks who made me think,"Damn, I should have picked her," then finally got the hell out.[/QUOTE]I've never commented on another amigos sex practices. I assume that most, especially with a novia, will go BBFS. But with a street walker that is having sex with many, many men a day. An el centro sex worker. I simply don't understand the cost. Benefit analysis. What are you thinking? Especially when you write that you have a SO at home.

But, only good energy and good luck, amigo.

I love women. I love working girls. I love women who are working girls because they give me the best sexual bang for my money, I don't get hassles or problems that I can't get rid of within ten or fifteen minutes, I don't have to deal with a woman's historical baggage, and the best thing of all about working girls and my approach to them is that I'm almost never bored. I'm always getting surprises. It is the element of surprise that tops my list of priorities. Which is another way of saying that I am, in everything I do, a dedicated, irrepressible butterfly. To put the matter differently, I am committed to promiscuity in all of its many possible meanings. I'm promiscuous in what I read, in what I eat, in the company I seek, in the drugs I do, in the movies and museums I visit, and of course in my sex life. Well, I am not entirely promiscuous in my sex life; I am thoroughly heterosexual.

For nearly sixteen years I have traveled the world, and largely, often almost exclusively, for the purpose of whoring with girls and women. Argentina, Peru, Cambodia, China, the Dominican Republic, Vietnam, Brazil, Myanmar, Thailand, Indonesia, the Netherlands, Italy, Mexico, the Philippines, Cuba, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Honduras, Australia—just about any place where you find working girls in one guise or another. In brothels, bars, the street, discos, back alleys, truck stops, massage parlors, restaurants, tea houses, the beach.

I cannot in all honesty say exactly how many working girls—different ones—I've been with since I seriously began my travels in search of sexual adventure and variety. I've never kept track of the actual number. Nor have I had any interest in doing so. If I had to venture a guess, however, I'the say that over the sixteen years that I have pursued my hobby with immodest zest I have averaged between 50 and 70 different couplings a year; in 2003, an above average year, the number exceeded 100.

I have strong memories of the best of these half hour, three hour, one day, one night sexual adventures: mental pictures of where I had sex, what I did with the girl or woman, what she looked like, how she dressed and behaved, how we began and how we parted. My library of memories is solely in my head. I have never taken a single photograph of a woman with whom I have had sex. The cold truth is that I cannot remember the names of more than twenty percent of the hundreds and hundreds of women I have been with. I only needed to know a name when we hooked up, in order to be able to show her some respect and to increase the pleasure of what we did by making it less impersonal. Invariably, though, within a day or two, only the experience and the memory mattered, and a name for most of the women I'the been with quickly became an irrelevancy. For within a day or two of a sexual coupling, sometimes hours, I would find myself in pursuit of yet another girl or woman. My thoughts would be tightly focused on what I might like to try next: as to shape, age, color, disposition, weight, dress, in addition to all those sexual matters that any serious *****monger obsesses about—the approach, the pause, the lingering warm up, two-holing or three-holing, the kissing and embraces, the shower together, and the leaving. Variation and novel combinations are always the real issue. Repetition and the familiar are to be avoided as much as possible. They are the banes of all marriages, all relationships, all friendships.

By about the third year of my global *****mongering I had developed a firm list of rules, or what I would tell myself were the Ten Commandments of a Happy *****monger. I share them here for the benefit of other *****mongers. No doubt many have lists of their own dos and don'ts. Even perhaps superior to and more detailed than mine.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1464243]I've never commented on another amigos sex practices. I assume that most, especially with a novia, will go BBFS. But with a street walker that is having sex with many, many men a day. An el centro sex worker. I simply don't understand the cost. Benefit analysis. What are you thinking? Especially when you write that you have a SO at home.

But, only good energy and good luck, amigo.[/QUOTE]+1000 to this LT!

Let's be honest; Sex with a condom sucks! Having your dick fall off or your life impacted with an SDT sucks way more! Like LT said you essentially chose to go raw dog with a low level street walker type working girl that has no super vision, no required testing, ect. There is a big difference in going raw with a girl like that and say a girl you pick up in the states at a bar. Shit! Even the working girls at the lowest level in the sates know better than to go raw with a first time client!

If you're going to play the game you got to play smart, no silly or stupid turn overs.

I like what you say, I'd go down that rabbit hole, I got nothing better to do.

One of the rules that Jackson has expressly developed, is not commenting on safe sex practices except on the forum designed for that purpose. I've been mongering 22 years. We all have our own personal preferences, risk levels, etc. We all fall somewhere on a gray scale from the blackest of blacks to the whitest of whites. Most of the world would criticize All of us. You choose to criticize me because I go further into the abyss than most of you (but surely not all). There sure as hell is no need to go down the road of criticizing me on that level. There's a reason Jackson has prohibited that type of commentary. I'm surprised all of you don't know that.

Nonetheless, thanks for the attempts at help. I'm back in the states now and no telling if I'll ever get to Medellin again. I'm very unlikely to travel internationally except for work. I expect to be in Cali in a few years, but otherwise who knows. Loved my time in Medellin, though, even if it didn't work out perfectly. Loved it!

[QUOTE=Cm6363; 1464191]Have met a lot of women on Facebook and I think I can tell who the Mansion girls. Their pricing seems high and what they provide kind of short term for it. (e. G, $COL 150. 000 for 1-1/2 hour) Was paying that for 3-4 hours with non-Mansion girls earlier in the year. Anyone have color on current pricing now?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Well, if they're Mansion girls, they're going to ask for what they get at the Mansion, which is usually 150k. Having said that, what they ask for is not necessarily what one should pay.

On the last night of my last trip in March, I went to a disco that was part of a late night 5 or 6 bar / disco complex that was south of Poblado just off the highway. Was fun and I noticed it was mostly non-pro, but I did notice some gringo deals cut and a pair offered themselves to me too. I enjoy all of the offerings of Medellin, except high end night clubs, but this is my favorite way to play.

Does anyone know the name of this area? I think the best time to go would be 1 am or later. Does that seem right?

Better yet, can anyone please recommend their favorite discos for finding ladies who want to go semi-pro for a few hours or a night?

Thanks!

[quote=el bacano;1464369]i like what you say, i'd go down that rabbit hole, i got nothin better to do.[/quote]ten commandments,

1. never sleep with the same woman more than twice. or three times at the very most. even if she is irresistible and perfectly charming and wild at heart and in bed, never, ever pay her for sex two days in a row. by returning to the same woman repeatedly one is asking for trouble. requests for money beyond that agreed to. a request for additional money via the telling of sad and unhappy personal or family stories that may or may not be true. with each subsequent coupling with the same woman the likelihood or one or both parties becoming attached or having feelings called romantic love increase, and with it all of the undesirable consequences and boredom well known to all honest men who are married, were married or are in relationships.

then too by having sex with the same woman more than twice or three times a dedicated and disciplined *****monger deprives himself of difference, of diversity, of novelty, of the unexpected. those very concepts that get to the core of exploiting to the fullest these brief lives we all have to thoroughly enjoy our most basic animal instincts.

2. give every working girl the respect you give to any person with whom you can imagine having a loving relationship of indefinite duration. you are buying a service, and in so doing are asking that the working girl will be honest in delivering what is promised. she may not be honest, and many do not deliver on their promises; nevertheless, there is no reason to treat an unknown one-timer shabbily simply because other working girls you have been with have not performed as promised or implied.

3. commandment two notwithstanding, work from the assumption that everything a working girl tells you is a lie, and, more to the point, that her behavior in bed or what she tells you will not be a true picture of how she in fact feels toward you. her job is to create an illusion, to bring you to climax, and, in most parts of the world and most of the time, to get rid of you as soon as possible. those who are genuinely good at what they do are able to make the difference between illusion and reality seem trivial. once the thinking summarized here in commandment three is integrated into the mental software of a true and disciplined *****monger there will be few disappoints or regrets.

4. do not give any working girl honest information about who you are or what you do or where you are from, and most certainly do not give her a telephone number, mailing address or e-mail address. tell her whatever will most likely get her to meet your needs. if the first commandment is followed faithfully, there is absolutely no need for the woman to have any legitimate or honest personal information about you. giving her such information will, as often as not, work against your best interest, which is first and foremost about meeting your sexual and novelty needs-real, fantastical, and otherwise.

5. before agreeing to go with a working girl or paying a bar fine or its equivalent (as in thailand and the philippines) , make it perfectly clear what you expect in the way of services. do not leave anything implied or up to her imagination, for to do so is assuredly a recipe for disappointment, misunderstanding, and unforeseeable and unpredictable consequences. there is, admittedly, a tradeoff here with the primary concern with surprise, and thus this commandment is one to be broken as whim and circumstance dictate.

6. do not take drugs or have too much alcohol when whoring because not only will enjoyment be sacrificed, but also you will not be able to respond appropriately and to best advantage to events that cannot be predicted and come at unexpected moments. furthermore, too much alcohol often results in a lack of caution: failure to note that the woman is sick or has a suspicious sore. or, alas, losing hold of one's faculties to such an extent that one goes bareback for vaginal or anal sex.

7. after you get to the room, if you see, or smell, or sense that something is not right (the working girl's on drugs, she seems diseased, it looks like you've walked into a setup to rob you, she's not going to come through on her principal promises) , then cut your losses. get rid of her right away; don't commit the concorde fallacy and throw more time and money at an ill-conceived investment. tell her you're not feeling well or have bad stomach cramps or are going to throw up, whatever. then leave, or ask her to leave right away. if necessary to avoid a scene or something not easily controlled, give the working girl a small amount of money to get rid of her.

8. if a working girl comes through on all of her promises, and proves to be good indeed, show your appreciation. tip her, and honestly compliment her on her skills. you are not only making her feel good about herself, but you are almost guaranteeing that the next guy she's with will be more than happy with what he asked and paid for. that next guy could be you returning for the second and last time.

9. never have sex with a girl that's ****, the appropriate age determined by the country in which you have sex with her. if in doubt about her age, walk away and find someone else.

10. always wear a condom for vaginal and anal sex. to not do so is not just to risk a disease that could be fatal, but also to rob you of one or more novel experiences while you are recovering from your stupidity.

[QUOTE=TweedleD; 1464448]Ten Commandments,

1. Never sleep with the same woman more than twice. Or three times at the very most.

4. Do not give any working girl honest information about who you are or what you do or where you are from,

5. Before agreeing to go with a working girl or paying a bar fine or its equivalent (as in Thailand and the Philippines) , make it perfectly clear what you expect in the way of services.[/QUOTE]Very good advice, but it is very restrictive. From my experience of a 17-year mongering activities, I allow the following:

1. If I really like a woman, I would sleep with her many, many times. I've done 40 times once, and close to that many times. The key is to always have several active favs lined up, so that you don't fall in love with one of them.

4. This is also way too restrictive, and limit how much fun you can have with a woman. I give all sort of general info about me, but never personal stuff like address, personal phone number, real name, etc.

5. Especially in places like Thailand, where the language is a barrier, it is difficult to agree on anything before hand. Plus you have the local customs that differ from one area to the next, in terms of services typically offered. Negotiating services sometimes take all the fun out of it.

very well-written. i have to say i agree with them all.

[quote=tweedled; 1464448]ten commandments,

1. never sleep with the same woman more than twice. or three times at the very most. even if she is irresistible and perfectly charming and wild at heart and in bed, never, ever pay her for sex two days in a row. by returning to the same woman repeatedly one is asking for trouble. requests for money beyond that agreed to. a request for additional money via the telling of sad and unhappy personal or family stories that may or may not be true. with each subsequent coupling with the same woman the likelihood or one or both parties becoming attached or having feelings called romantic love increase, and with it all of the undesirable consequences and boredom well known to all honest men who are married, were married or are in relationships.

then too by having sex with the same woman more than twice or three times a dedicated and disciplined *monger deprives himself of difference, of diversity, of novelty, of the unexpected. those very concepts that get to the core of exploiting to the fullest these brief lives we all have to thoroughly enjoy our most basic animal instincts.

2. give every working girl the respect you give to any person with whom you can imagine having a loving relationship of indefinite duration. you are buying a service, and in so doing are asking that the working girl will be honest in delivering what is promised. she may not be honest, and many do not deliver on their promises; nevertheless, there is no reason to treat an unknown one-timer shabbily simply because other working girls you have been with have not performed as promised or implied.

3. commandment two notwithstanding, work from the assumption that everything a working girl tells you is a lie, and, more to the point, that her behavior in bed or what she tells you will not be a true picture of how she in fact feels toward you. her job is to create an illusion, to bring you to climax, and, in most parts of the world and most of the time, to get rid of you as soon as possible. those who are genuinely good at what they do are able to make the difference between illusion and reality seem trivial. once the thinking summarized here in commandment three is integrated into the mental software of a true and disciplined *monger there will be few disappoints or regrets.

4. do not give any working girl honest information about who you are or what you do or where you are from, and most certainly do not give her a telephone number, mailing address or e-mail address. tell her whatever will most likely get her to meet your needs. if the first commandment is followed faithfully, there is absolutely no need for the woman to have any legitimate or honest personal information about you. giving her such information will, as often as not, work against your best interest, which is first and foremost about meeting your sexual and novelty needs-real, fantastical, and otherwise.

5. before agreeing to go with a working girl or paying a bar fine or its equivalent (as in thailand and the philippines) , make it perfectly clear what you expect in the way of services. do not leave anything implied or up to her imagination, for to do so is assuredly a recipe for disappointment, misunderstanding, and unforeseeable and unpredictable consequences. there is, admittedly, a tradeoff here with the primary concern with surprise, and thus this commandment is one to be broken as whim and circumstance dictate.

6. do not take drugs or have too much alcohol when whoring because not only will enjoyment be sacrificed, but also you will not be able to respond appropriately and to best advantage to events that cannot be predicted and come at unexpected moments. furthermore, too much alcohol often results in a lack of caution: failure to note that the woman is sick or has a suspicious sore. or, alas, losing hold of one's faculties to such an extent that one goes bareback for vaginal or anal sex.

7. after you get to the room, if you see, or smell, or sense that something is not right (the working girl's on drugs, she seems diseased, it looks like you've walked into a setup to rob you, she's not going to come through on her principal promises) , then cut your losses. get rid of her right away; don't commit the concorde fallacy and throw more time and money at an ill-conceived investment. tell her you're not feeling well or have bad stomach cramps or are going to throw up, whatever. then leave, or ask her to leave right away. if necessary to avoid a scene or something not easily controlled, give the working girl a small amount of money to get rid of her.

8. if a working girl comes through on all of her promises, and proves to be good indeed, show your appreciation. tip her, and honestly compliment her on her skills. you are not only making her feel good about herself, but you are almost guaranteeing that the next guy she's with will be more than happy with what he asked and paid for. that next guy could be you returning for the second and last time.

9. never have sex with a girl that's ****, the appropriate age determined by the country in which you have sex with her. if in doubt about her age, walk away and find someone else.

10. always wear a condom for vaginal and anal sex. to not do so is not just to risk a disease that could be fatal, but also to rob you of one or more novel experiences while you are recovering from your stupidity.[/quote]

If we could make "smileys" here I'd put the guy clapping! Well written and well said. I enjoyed the part about tipping. As with any service a tip it a representation of quality of service and should only be given when earned and deserved. Sort of a mute point as you couldn't get a tip out of some of the cheap gringos here with a can of WD40!

There sub section "You are not a porn star so don't have a threesome. They will run game on you and you'll find yourself waking up in the morning shy of most if not all of your stuff. Happens all the time and the hustle is the same. Two girls, awesome time, porn star style, sleepy, wake up no more porn star or lap top, phone, passport, ect.

[QUOTE=TweedleD; 1464448]Ten Commandments,

1. Never sleep with the same woman more than twice. Or three times at the very most. Even if she is irresistible and perfectly charming and wild at heart and in bed, never, ever pay her for sex two days in a row. By returning to the same woman repeatedly one is asking for trouble. Requests for money beyond that agreed to. A request for additional money via the telling of sad and unhappy personal or family stories that may or may not be true. With each subsequent coupling with the same woman the likelihood or one or both parties becoming attached or having feelings called romantic love increase, and with it all of the undesirable consequences and boredom well known to all honest men who are married, were married or are in relationships.

Then too by having sex with the same woman more than twice or three times a dedicated and disciplined *monger deprives himself of difference, of diversity, of novelty, of the unexpected. Those very concepts that get to the core of exploiting to the fullest these brief lives we all have to thoroughly enjoy our most basic animal instincts...[/QUOTE]

Threesomes can be fantastic. The key is you need to have them in a safe setting with girls that you know. But yes, you can run into trouble if you're not smart about them. I've had dozens of very good threesomes in Rio (and a few foursomes). In MDE, I've had a few good ones, though the Paisas don't tend to be as wild as the Garotas.

QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1464623]If we could make "smileys" here I'd put the guy clapping! Well written and well said. I enjoyed the part about tipping. As with any service a tip it a representation of quality of service and should only be given when earned and deserved. Sort of a mute point as you couldn't get a tip out of some of the cheap gringos here with a can of WD40!

There sub section "You are not a porn star so don't have a threesome. They will run game on you and you'll find yourself waking up in the morning shy of most if not all of your stuff. Happens all the time and the hustle is the same. Two girls, awesome time, porn star style, sleepy, wake up no more porn star or lap top, phone, passport, ect.[/QUOTE]

Hey Greg,

If you fancy hooking up to explore some of SA's hidden treasures while Aus try to assemble some credibility at cricket, feel free to contact me. I live in CPT. It can be quite a fun place in SA summer.

I'm in Medellin from 29 Aug for 1 week. Anybody fancy meeting up for some girly fun?

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1461902]Hi Mel,

Yep, the only issue for her was no buses on Monday and the land slide on the road to Bogota from Medellin.

Cricket, great, spent 3 months in India and Bangladesh early this year watching the Australian team get flogged, going to Australia for our summer to watch England play in Australia on home soil and then on the way back to Colombia, a month and a half in South Africa watching Australia get flogged again, and a few wildlife tours in Zim and Zambia. I'll need a holiday mate in St Maartin when I get back!

Medellin team! I conduct interviews nearly every night mate "its a girl team"!

A. G.[/QUOTE]

[quote=twistedbrother; 1464387]one of the rules that jackson has expressly developed, is not commenting on safe sex practices except on the forum designed for that purpose. i've been mongering 22 years. we all have our own personal preferences, risk levels, etc. we all fall somewhere on a gray scale from the blackest of blacks to the whitest of whites. most of the world would criticize all of us. you choose to criticize me because i go further into the abyss than most of you (but surely not all). there sure as hell is no need to go down the road of criticizing me on that level. there's a reason jackson has prohibited that type of commentary. i'm surprised all of you don't know that.

nonetheless, thanks for the attempts at help. i'm back in the states now and no telling if i'll ever get to medellin again. i'm very unlikely to travel internationally except for work. i expect to be in cali in a few years, but otherwise who knows. loved my time in medellin, though, even if it didn't work out perfectly. loved it![/quote][quote=tweedled; 1464448]ten commandments,

1. never sleep with the same woman more than twice. or three times at the very most. even if she is irresistible and perfectly charming and wild at heart and in bed, never, ever pay her for sex two days in a row. by returning to the same woman repeatedly one is asking for trouble. requests for money beyond that agreed to. a request for additional money via the telling of sad and unhappy personal or family stories that may or may not be true. with each subsequent coupling with the same woman the likelihood or one or both parties becoming attached or having feelings called romantic love increase, and with it all of the undesirable consequences and boredom well known to all honest men who are married, were married or are in relationships.

9. never have sex with a girl that's ****, the appropriate age determined by the country in which you have sex with her. if in doubt about her age, walk away and find someone else.

10. always wear a condom for vaginal and anal sex. to not do so is not just to risk a disease that could be fatal, but also to rob you of one or more novel experiences while you are recovering from your stupidity.[/quote]twisted replies to questions about his having sex with high volume street walkers without a condom by (1) suggesting that safe sex issues are reserved by jackson for a thread on that topic, and (2), since he enjoys that behavior, it shouldn't be the subject of comment. maybe he's right, but i'm always curious what drives someone to such reckless behavior. possible pathology? but to each his own. contrast that with tweedle's advice to always us a condom.

more substantively, i can't believe most mongers want to follow tweedle's "ten commandments." i don't know an experienced monger that has gone to colombia for many years that hasn't developed more than p4p relationship with a girl or two. an "attachment" is not a bad thing. i dare say that at least on some level we all want intimacy on a level other than sex. being interested in a girl's life does not equate with marriage. besides, there is nothing better than the "i know you care about me" sex.

i agree about no sex with **** girls. but if you're a usa citizen or lawful resident, it is a federal felony to travel outside the usa and have sex with an individual under 18, nothwithstanding the age of consent in the other country.

it's interesting how different folks view their time with the beautiful women of medellin.

only good energy!

Ok, let's cut the shit here. Working in the "sex industry" fucking blows. Real sex work is about showing up at a millionaire crackhead's house with a big box of Wet Ones, letting him bang the shit out of you for three days (even though he pulled a gun on you for sitting on the left-hand side of his bed) , and then leaving with $1, 900. No matter what the empowered academics in San Francisco pretend to believe, whoring—in any form—is hell, and the only reason women do it is to get money! If you want to try it out, be prepared to have nothing to show for years of suffering but a blown-out septum and some lumpy fake tits. It's like extreme waitressing. You make hundreds of dollars a night licking ass and then you immediately spend it on drugs just to feel normal again.

Good call guys. Whatever you do. Do not get sloppy drunk with any girl. She will take advantage of you in some way or another. I have found that in Medellin a lot of the girls in the downtown strip clubs like the white stuff. So be very careful.

[QUOTE=Lefeu; 1464459]Very good advice, but it is very restrictive. From my experience of a 17-year mongering activities, I allow the following:

1. If I really like a woman, I would sleep with her many, many times. I've done 40 times once, and close to that many times. The key is to always have several active favs lined up, so that you don't fall in love with one of them.

4. This is also way too restrictive, and limit how much fun you can have with a woman. I give all sort of general info about me, but never personal stuff like address, personal phone number, real name, etc.

5. Especially in places like Thailand, where the language is a barrier, it is difficult to agree on anything before hand. Plus you have the local customs that differ from one area to the next, in terms of services typically offered. Negotiating services sometimes take all the fun out of it.[/QUOTE]

jtk,
will be in cape town from the 27th feb, till the 7th march mate, will do.
toured s.a. in 89 and 90, backpacked up to zambia and malawi.
i'm on another road trip to the valle while your here in medellin, get back late sept, before heading to australia for 5 months.

guys, just got back from doradal, hacienda napoli's (over 15 times now) and then onto puerto berrio, who ever wants info pm me.
also just got back (today) from manizales, chinchina, santa rosa de cabal (thermales) pereira, contargo, armenia (panaca) la victoria, la union (grape industry, both table and wine) in the valle, again any body wants info, pm me.

a. g.

quote=justthekid; 1464702]hey greg,

if you fancy hooking up to explore some of sa's hidden treasures while aus try to assemble some credibility at cricket, feel free to contact me. i live in cpt. it can be quite a fun place in sa summer.

i'm in medellin from 29 aug for 1 week. anybody fancy meeting up for some girly fun?[/quote]

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1464960]Ok, let's cut the shit here. Working in the "sex industry" fucking blows. Real sex work is about showing up at a millionaire crackhead's house with a big box of Wet Ones, letting him bang the shit out of you for three days (even though he pulled a gun on you for sitting on the left-hand side of his bed) , and then leaving with $1, 900. No matter what the empowered academics in San Francisco pretend to believe, whoring—in any form—is hell, and the only reason women do it is to get money! If you want to try it out, be prepared to have nothing to show for years of suffering but a blown-out septum and some lumpy fake tits. It's like extreme waitressing. You make hundreds of dollars a night licking ass and then you immediately spend it on drugs just to feel normal again.[/QUOTE]Actually most professions, tesching, maids, ditch diggers would not show up if they didn't get paid. From reading this forum some guys like to be the licker instead of the lickee, to each his own. I have met some chicas that believe that it is ok and use it as an means to get to the next step. Wow, if men got paid, oh shit they would do it for nothing! Some chicas actually enjoy the sex, not all, but some. But, yes, if not for dinero they probably wouldn't show up. And wives, best get them a regala if you want to get Mr. Johnson well taked care of.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1464960]Ok, let's cut the shit here. Working in the "sex industry" fucking blows. Real sex work is about showing up at a millionaire crackhead's house with a big box of Wet Ones, letting him bang the shit out of you for three days (even though he pulled a gun on you for sitting on the left-hand side of his bed) , and then leaving with $1, 900. No matter what the empowered academics in San Francisco pretend to believe, whoring—in any form—is hell, and the only reason women do it is to get money! If you want to try it out, be prepared to have nothing to show for years of suffering but a blown-out septum and some lumpy fake tits. It's like extreme waitressing. You make hundreds of dollars a night licking ass and then you immediately spend it on drugs just to feel normal again.[/QUOTE]You don't describe the girls in Medellin that trade some loving for a little financial assistance. Most are young mothers or university students just trying to make their lives a little easier and hoping to find someone to show them a little compassion, care and interest. What you describe is almost unknown in the Colombia I know, except the rare exception of some narco trafficker's behavior.

And, as an aside, they're all sex workers at some level or another. Women provide sexual pleasure in order to obtain security. Now that can be paid by the hour or based on a lifetime commitment. There is no free sex, but to suggest what you do is just wrongheaded. Maybe you need to change your class of companions. Just say'in.

Only good energy, though.

A guy is hanging out in his favorite bar when he spots a fabulous babe.

Walking in on the arm of some ugly man.

He asks the bartender about her and is surprised to discover that she's a prostitute.

He watches her the rest of the night, amazed that someone so attractive could be available to him.

The next night he goes back to the bar, and sure enough she shows up again, only this time alone.

The guy gets up his nerve and approaches her."Is it true you're a prostitute?"

"Why, sure, big boy. What can I do for you?"

"Well, I dunno. What do you charge?"

"I get $100 just for a handjob. We can negotiate from there."

"$100! For a handjob? Are you nuts?"

"You see that Ferrari out there?" The guy looks out the front door,

And sure enough there's a shiny new Ferrari parked outside.

"I paid cash for that Ferrari with the money I made on handjobs.

"Trust me, it's worth it."

The guy mulls it over for a while, and decides what the hell.

He leaves with her, and gets the most unbelievable experience he's ever had.

This handjob was better than any complete sexual experience in his miserable life.

The next night he's back at the bar, waiting eagerly for her to show up.

When she does, he immediately approaches her."Last night was incredible!"

"Of course it was. Just wait till you try one of my blowjobs."

"How much is that?"

"$500"

"$500! C'mon, that's ridiculous!"

"You see that apartment building across the street?"

The guy looks out front at a 12 story apartment building.

"I paid cash for that building with the money I made on blowjobs. Trust me, it's worth it."

Based on the night before, the guy decides to go for it.

He leaves with her, and once again is not disappointed.

He nearly faints. Twice. The next night he can hardly contain himself until she shows up.

I'm hooked, you're the best! Tell me, what'll it cost me for some pussy?"

She motions for him to follow her outside.

She points down the street, where between the buildings he can see Manhattan.

"You see that island?"

"Aw, see'mon! You can't mean that!"

She nods her head."You bet. If I had a pussy, I'd own Manhattan!"

Oe, llaves, here is a little info on MDE as I have been here longer than planned (cancelled Lima trip due to a cold).

OK, there are some new places. One is Liquid Lounge. I went when the place was opening because I was in the area. It is a bit difficult to find, but it is in Barrio Colombia and the address on their Facebook page is correct. It is 20K COP to get in, that also entitles you to two drinks at the bar. Given that there was a not a SOUL inside when I arrived, I found it odd that the doorman tried to charge me to get in. It didn't take much persuading to get him to let me just check it out. I dig the interior, spacious sofas, bunch of TVs, Playstation stuff, etc. The upper floor is a VIP room with stripper poles and so forth. I will come back to check out some NFL action, I suppose. I am undecided on the place, I will have to go back when there are some actual people there. I did notice that they discouraged Colombian dudes from coming, but if you have a dollar in your pocket, they will take it I am sure.

There is a new place near Parque Lleras. I don't remember the name but it is the same owner as Club Maracaibo in El Centro. The place is decent enough. There was one stunning girl, a few above average and some average ones. That's a mix you'd find in the Centro for 80K a pop on a good night. Here they want 170K or 180K (cannot recall) for 40 minutes. The place closes at 1AM. I got there late and did not partake, only one girl would have interested me at that price.

The Centro spots are ehhhh at the moment. Went to the greasier ones (Hilton, Conejitas, etc) and they were pretty dead. Maracaibo seems to have a policy of NOT hiring lookers now LOL. Barra Ejecutiva is OK, they did lose Julieta to Fase II though, which is a big blow IMO.

She is there along with a number of hot girls. I went Fase II on a Sunday and liked the selection, not a lot of dudes either. I would recommend a girl there but I only remember her real name and not her stage name. Petite blonde with a great set of naturals, fun attitude although she is a little shy.

San Diego continues to fuck around for the minimum, they try and hit you 95K for half bottle of booze or some bullshit. I have a favorite there but we just hang around outside the place. I do not know too much about the quality of the girls at the moment, it was decent in February when I was last there. At this point, SD is actually pricier than Fase II, which is weird to me as I recall when SD was about 50% the price.

Massage spots, eh, lots of bleh, I found a new one at New Life but overall thought they had a pretty half assed selection. Lots of small places, nothing great to report from them though.

Street action is pretty dead, as dead as I have seen it. There are some gems to be had, but lots of junk, too.

I realize this is a bit off topic, but does anyone know if the casinos in Medellin have sports books? Or are there any other places to bet on sports in Medellin? Such as betting parlors or the like?

This is the kind of info that helps the next guy out. I'm heading there in a week and will be at HMP 2. My Spanish is much better each trip. I will hit all the places mentioned by Wilt. I have been to the El Centro strip clubs but not the higher end joints. A year ago I took a Las Americas dancer to the beautiful Nutibara Hotel for serious sweaty fun. I enjoyed her action she was sexy and fun. Cost was 50,000 to LA and forgot what I gave her, maybe 100/150,000 for TLN. I'd do it again in a heartbeat. Thanks again Wilt for the great info.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1465195]Oe, llaves, here is a little info on MDE as I have been here longer than planned (cancelled Lima trip due to a cold).

OK, there are some new places. One is Liquid Lounge. I went when the place was opening because I was in the area. It is a bit difficult to find, but it is in Barrio Colombia and the address on their Facebook page is correct. It is 20K COP to get in, that also entitles you to two drinks at the bar. Given that there was a not a SOUL inside when I arrived, I found it odd that the doorman tried to charge me to get in. It didn't take much persuading to get him to let me just check it out. I dig the interior, spacious sofas, bunch of TVs, Playstation stuff, etc. The upper floor is a VIP room with stripper poles and so forth. I will come back to check out some NFL action, I suppose. I am undecided on the place, I will have to go back when there are some actual people there. I did notice that they discouraged Colombian dudes from coming, but if you have a dollar in your pocket, they will take it I am sure...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AcesAndEights;1465366]I realize this is a bit off topic, but does anyone know if the casinos in Medellin have sports books? Or are there any other places to bet on sports in Medellin? Such as betting parlors or the like?[/QUOTE]I am headed to MDE in November and wondering if there is any poker rooms?

Anyone have any experience with this outfit? [url]http://www.parceritas.com/index.asp[/url]

Cheers,

B D

[QUOTE=AcesAndEights;1465366]I realize this is a bit off topic, but does anyone know if the casinos in Medellin have sports books? Or are there any other places to bet on sports in Medellin? Such as betting parlors or the like?[/QUOTE]There is little if any sports gambling at the casinos. You can bet ponies or greyhounds at the track or from books around town. There is gambling on jai alai maybe but I have not seen it in MDE. Cock fighting as well, seems more prominent on the coast.

I know a few years ago Intralot was operating some sort of sports book operation, primarily international football (soccer). I do not know if that is still the case. They had the exclusive contract. There are bookies to bet futbol for sure, ask doormen and they will probably know

Hello All, Private party this Friday at Liquid lounge in barrio Colombia at 9:00 PM, no cover, all who are in Medellin this week are welcome to come.

Or PM me for details

[QUOTE=Big Dogie; 1465494]I am headed to MDE in November and wondering if there is any poker rooms?

Anyone have any experience with this outfit?

[url]http://www.parceritas.com/index.asp[/url]

Cheers,

B D[/QUOTE]Poker is not terribly popular but yes there are casinos that have it. Simpler table games like blackjack and roulette are very common.

[QUOTE=Socker;1465491]This is the kind of info that helps the next guy out. I'm heading there in a week and will be at HMP 2. My Spanish is much better each trip. I will hit all the places mentioned by Wilt. I have been to the El Centro strip clubs but not the higher end joints. A year ago I took a Las Americas dancer to the beautiful Nutibara Hotel for serious sweaty fun. I enjoyed her action she was sexy and fun. Cost was 50,000 to LA and forgot what I gave her, maybe 100/150,000 for TLN. I'd do it again in a heartbeat. Thanks again Wilt for the great info.[/QUOTE]You can still get the girls for 200K COP total TLN out of those centro joints, some for less, in rare instances a bit more. I have only been to Bar Las Americas once. It has kind of a fucked up schedule.

Fase II girls charge 300K COP TLN but the multa (bar fine) is 170K. I have a couple lady friends there who come to see me on their off days for 250K or 300K TLN, much better for both parties involved. Ditto for my SD friend, usually it's more like 7PM to 3 or 4 AM, but that is effectively TLN for 250K. Of course your mileage may vary. I am not the most stunning chap but I am a young-ish guy with some charisma. I find I have no trouble getting whatever I want in terms of extras, but I know some have said they find it difficult (extra time, anal, bb whatever, etc).

If you guys are here now, I will probably go to that Liquid Lounge thing Friday, barring my hands filling up with 18 year old spinner I have recently befriended here. Her pussy is so shallow, it's like diving into the kiddie pool. She is pretty touch and go with availability (HS student) but when she is around, mmmmmmm, quite a delight.

I will probably check out La Isla and Luna Lunera soon just as a matter of interest, see what's good there. Has anyone been up to Leutron lately? I have never sessioned there but I admit I have thought about it.

Another question, has anyone managed to track down the Universitarias spot? Large building, at least six stories and maybe 10. Rooftop bar where you pick your girl (all very clean and fresh faced) , sauna, turco, etc. I cannot find this fucking place for the life of me. I went four years ago and I would love to return.

Anybody here now or coming soon, feel free to PM. Obviously I can give more details privately on girls, party stuff, etc. Enjoy Medellin, gentlemen.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1465565].

Another question, has anyone managed to track down the Universitarias spot? Large building, at least six stories and maybe 10. Rooftop bar where you pick your girl (all very clean and fresh faced) , sauna, turco, etc. I cannot find this fucking place for the life of me. I went four years ago and I would love to return.[/QUOTE]I think you are talking about the old Intercontinental en el centro, obviously jot the one in Las Palmas, if so it is closed. For a daytime spot to have a drink, try the cafe on the top floor of the english school columbo americano or something like that in el centro.

HB

[QUOTE=DetJunky; 1465544]Hello All, Private party this Friday at Liquid lounge in barrio Colombia at 9:00 PM, no cover, all who are in Medellin this week are welcome to come.

Or PM me for details[/QUOTE]My e mail said it starts at 10 pm

[QUOTE=Hanshin Baka; 1465579]I think you are talking about the old Intercontinental en el centro, obviously jot the one in Las Palmas, if so it is closed. For a daytime spot to have a drink, try the cafe on the top floor of the english school columbo americano or something like that in el centro.

HB[/QUOTE]Hmmmm, perhaps, but I am not so sure. This place was run by a little older lady, she had reddish hair and was very formal. She was the owner. She would greet you downstairs and then take you to the roof to see the girls. I was opening late afternoon, evening and night, but not too late. The girls were all 19-21, very fresh and actual university students. I had a lovely time there but soon after I met my ex and stopped really whoring around for a while.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1465195]Oe, llaves, here is a little info on MDE as I have been here longer than planned .[/QUOTE]Yes, señor, Thanks for the Medellin update!

As you may have read in the news, the rural strikes have now reached the cities and gained support from students and other pissed off people. I would not say it is a volatile political climate, but this is as tense as I have seen things in five+ years.

I would not be concerned from a safety standpoint, that's overblown, but know that in these days the city and the mongering action is pretty subdued. Yesterday and today a lot of girls who live outside the city center (in Bello or Castillas or Sabaneta or Itagui or Envigado or whatever) are just staying home. Clubs are slow, streets are empty and businesses are closed.

This should blow over pretty quickly, but it is something to be aware of.

Anyone in MDE now? What's the situation? Are there protests going on? Causing any disruptions to transport?

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1465755]This should blow over pretty quickly, but it is something to be aware of.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my3doRW-HWA[/url]

[QUOTE=Arjay;1465820]Anyone in MDE now? What's the situation? Are there protests going on? Causing any disruptions to transport?[/QUOTE]There is increased traffic because the truckers are clogging up some highways and some streets are closed here or there. Overall I think the worst of the disruption was yesterday and some traffic jams today. I went to go to the Jumbo on Calle 65, usually a ten minute ride, I gave up after ten minutes sitting on one street. My friend came down from Castillas and she said the traffic sucked, she was almost a half hour late and she is typically very punctual (rare for a Paisa, I know!).

TweedleD, not sure what the Watts video was about. Reminds me of the time I was in Vancouver and there was a small riot (2011 Stanley Cup). People there apologized profusely to me as a foreigner. I told them, don't sweat it, I lived in LA back in 1992!

NCL Pimp, I got your PM dude but your inbox is full. Delete some messages and send me another PM, we can talk then.

Went tracking down Liquid Lounge today. Think I found it. Said LLM on the logo outside.

But not open. Was 14:30 pm. Anyone know the opening hours?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Arjay;1465820]Anyone in MDE now? What's the situation? Are there protests going on? Causing any disruptions to transport?[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I4SQV3ulC8[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtjsCym9HMI[/url]

Be careful down there.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1465977][url]Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I4SQV3ulC8[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtjsCym9HMI[/url]

Be careful down there.[/QUOTE]Oh boy!

I was planning a visit next week, but this protest may just put a damper on it.

Any word on how the situation is these days?

Hate to go down and waste time with places all closed and chicas staying home.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1466307]Oh boy!

I was planning a visit next week, but this protest may just put a damper on it.

Any word on how the situation is these days?

Hate to go down and waste time with places all closed and chicas staying home.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Strike has been going on for over a week, Will it all calm down or will it escalate? Interesting article [url]http://www.colombia-politics.com/santos-lost-colombia/[/url]

[QUOTE=TweedleD; 1466320]Strike has been going on for over a week, Will it all calm down or will it escalate? Interesting article.

[url]http://www.colombia-politics.com/santos-lost-colombia/[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks amigo!

I may just hit Brazil instead, then Colombia at the end of the month if things cool down a bit.

I am there now. There is nothing to worry about. I am right in the heart of it, too, not in some ritzy area floating above the masses. Santos is bungling a lot of things and of course there is always a level of tension in a country that still has a good deal of poverty. But I wouldn't sweat it at all. Brazil is a fine option, of course, but I wouldn't make any changes or cancellations based on political tension.

[QUOTE=JustTheKid; 1465939]Went tracking down Liquid Lounge today. Think I found it. Said LLM on the logo outside.

But not open. Was 14:30 pm. Anyone know the opening hours?

Thanks[/QUOTE]It is not an MP, it's a night spot. They open at six most nights but there is no reason to bother showing up before 10 if that early. Then again, from what I have seen in two visits, there is not much reason to show up at all. Pretty underwhelming and the door man is sheisty. He tried to charge me once when there was not ONE other person inside (female or male) and again when I came with a friend for the "free" party. The girls were nothing special and for a place that is geared toward foreigners I saw no foreign sports, no playstations set up and no real selection of imported beer or liquor. Very garden variety place with a bit of an identity crisis. That's just my nickel.

Anyone at the Mansion now or Liquid Lounge Party? Anybody see Alexa Rios Lujan? Trying to track her down. Lost her contact info. HELP!

[QUOTE=JustTheKid; 1465939]Went tracking down Liquid Lounge today. Think I found it. Said LLM on the logo outside.

But not open. Was 14:30 pm. Anyone know the opening hours?

Thanks[/QUOTE]They are pretty good at updating their status on their facebook page. [url]https://www.facebook.com/liquidloungemedellin[/url] Open 6pm til 2am Wed. Sat. It's only been open for less than 2 weeks so give it time to build word of mouth amongst the working girls. I saw many guys that have already hooked up a date enjoying themselves there. It's a good spot to bring such a date since the prices are very reasonable and couches are comfy for making out on. There stripper poles on the 2nd floor but no hired strippers performing though. Foosball table has been setup on that floor as well, PS3 just arrived but hasn't been setup yet. There is big projection screen on the main floor above the dancefloor connected to US cable channels via slingbox so sports season should be sweet!

Liquid Lounge is a 'stone's throw from Fase II and the Premium Plaza mall. The cute wait staff speaks some English - FYI. I don't know the cocktail prices but I paid 5K COP for can beer like Pilsen & Aguila and 7K for Heineken & Corona.

[QUOTE=Arjay;1466517]Anyone at the Mansion now or Liquid Lounge Party? Anybody see Alexa Rios Lujan? Trying to track her down. Lost her contact info. HELP![/QUOTE]She is not on facebook using that name right now so maybe she is off the market. Good luck wth your search though.

I have moved on from one of my regulars, so why not share her info now? Julieta, formerly of the Barra Ejecutiva, currentlyatFase II. 20 years old, very slim and shapely, smaller bolt-ons that are new, very smooth skin and will do just about anything. BBFS and BBA. You are reading that correctly. If she shoots it down, please don't be a dipshit and say "BUT I READ ON THE INTERNET THAT YOU DID!" Your mileage may vary obviously, but in 40 or so sessions I never had an issue. I've decided to move on because I really do not like Fase II and it's difficult to see her outside of it because she is raking in cash seven nights a week there.

I have her number, but you'd do better going to F2. She is there, every fucking night.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1466412]I am there now. There is nothing to worry about. I am right in the heart of it, too, not in some ritzy area floating above the masses. Santos is bungling a lot of things and of course there is always a level of tension in a country that still has a good deal of poverty. But I wouldn't sweat it at all. Brazil is a fine option, of course, but I wouldn't make any changes or cancellations based on political tension.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update Wilt, apreciate it.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1466641]I have moved on from one of my regulars, so why not share her info now? Julieta, formerly of the Barra Ejecutiva, currentlyatFase II. 20 years old, very slim and shapely, smaller bolt-ons that are new, very smooth skin and will do just about anything. BBFS and BBA. You are reading that correctly. If she shoots it down, please don't be a dipshit and say "BUT I READ ON THE INTERNET THAT YOU DID!" Your mileage may vary obviously, but in 40 or so sessions I never had an issue. I've decided to move on because I really do not like Fase II and it's difficult to see her outside of it because she is raking in cash seven nights a week there.

I have her number, but you'd do better going to F2. She is there, every fucking night.[/QUOTE]I hear ya amigo.

It's the natural cycle as you well know.

You'll undoubtedly find a new favorite, if not already.

The hunt sometimes is just as fun.

Enjoy!

I've driven from Medellin to Doradel, Rio Magdalena, Puerto Berrio and back to Medellin.

Also driven Medellin to Manizales, Pereira, Armenia and onto Cali in the last week (I'm in Cali now) and have had only one hold up for a hour outside Pereira by strikers.

In fact the strike has been good for me, no large trucks on the road to slow me down.

Yep, the ruling upper class have lost the plot. It will be another communist country next year after the elections.

A. G.

Nothing discernible on the streets of Medellin at the moment. Life goes on as normal for th city dwellers as far as I can see.

Think it's right that the people demonstrate and protest against abuse from the people that are supposed to be ruling them failry.

[QUOTE=TweedleD; 1466320]Strike has been going on for over a week, Will it all calm down or will it escalate? Interesting article.

[url]http://www.colombia-politics.com/santos-lost-colombia/[/url][/QUOTE]

It is funny to read the USA coverage, which has been woefully deficient and predictably focused on guerillas infiltrating the protest and other bassackwards buzz words associated with Colombia.

Of course the leftist English language press here and in Europe are making it out to sound like a revolution is imminent.

I do think there is a good deal of resentment toward the trade relationship with the USA, the treatment of farmers (in a recently agrarian society in many places) , the wealthy, the wages for most workers and so forth. All the conditions that could set something off under the right circumstances. I do not, however, feel like things are moving in that direction at all. I do think this is the end for Uribe-Santos and their ilk, but that is not such a bad thing. Uribe served his purpose here, but those guys have outstayed their usefulness in my humble opinion.

As far as Julieta, eh, she was already on the bubble after going to F II, this just closed the case. She is pretty hot though and as I said you can negotiate pretty much whatever, with that many visits I wasn't even tipping her for the extras after the first couple times. I don't GAF, just figured I'd share with you boys so you could also enjoy.

This my first trip to Colombia (in fact, South America). Must say, I am really enjoying Medellin. It is quite a happening city lot sof music and sporting events etc.

Food and prices are great.

Like the casas in Centro. Been to New Life and Sex Fantasies 2 so far. 1 very good result. 1 pretty mediocre. Suppose it's a lot to do with pot luck when one doesn't speak a word of Spanish! . But both great prices. Went to Luna Lunera too but am not inclined to pay 400% extra for the same thing!

Finding my way round fine, people very friendly and curious. Seems pretty safe to me, if one exercises a degree of caution.

Enjoy walking about Centro. In fact the only part I am not keen on is El Poblado. Seems really artificial and needlessly expensive.

My only complaint so far is the lack of action in the evenings. All the casas are closed so there is not much to do if one doesn't like the strip joints.

Go to La Mayorista (after 9pm) for street actions. There are street actions in the night in El Centro as well, but too dangerous.

[QUOTE=JustTheKid;1466767]My only complaint so far is the lack of action in the evenings. All the casas are closed so there is not much to do if one doesn't like the strip joints.[/QUOTE]

Thanks,

Yes understood.

But was really thinking more along the lines of bars for picking up working girls etc. The strip joints are very expensive compared to day time action. Doesn't seem to make sense to me.

[QUOTE]Go to La Mayorista (after 9pm) for street actions. There are street actions in the night in El Centro as well, but too dangerous.[/QUOTE]

Street action. I just feel a bit under pressure to make instant calls on the street. And not speaking the lingo make it's all the more difficult. If I could sit down and have a drink and 'connect' a little, I'd feel more comfortable on selection.

[QUOTE]Go to La Mayorista (after 9pm) for street actions. There are street actions in the night in El Centro as well, but too dangerous.[/QUOTE]

From Colombia reports.

Coffee Farmers.
Coffee farmers are striking because the sector claim that subsidies promised by the government to compensate for falling international coffee prices has never reached farmers.
In March the government agreed to pay coffee farmers a subsidy known as the Grower Ingress Protection, which guarantees that they will not lose money with the fluctuation in grain prices.
The production costs of coffee are between $335 and $365, while its market price is approximately $245. The subsidy of $85 promised by the government barely compensates for the loss.
Vicor Correa, one of the coffee strikes organizers, told Colombia Reports however that such subsidies have 'not made it to the farmers yet. '

Truckers.
Truckers are striking against high gasoline prices.
In February the government raised the price of fuel by 6, resulting in a strike by the truckers. After no reduction in fuel costs, the truckers have decided to continue demonstrations.
The president of Colfecar (Colombia's road freighters union) Jaime Sorzano said that constant increases in fuel prices have 'become intolerable and unsustainable. '
The price per gallon of gasoline is now $4. 82 in Bogota. The share of an average wage to the price of gas puts Colombia in the top 10 of Bloomberg's 'pain at the pump' rankings.
This hike has no purpose and is not in [step] with the quality of infrastructure. [the] quality of roads, the expensive tolls and the price of diesel and biodiesel, ' said Sorzano.
The union leader said that approximately 34 percent of truckers' costs is fuel, so with each increase the business becomes less profitable.

University teachers.
University teachers are striking over the government's alleged failure to honor agreements made after earlier strikes this year.
In an interview with Colombia Reports, FECODE Secretary General Rafael Cuello Ramirez detailed the issues at stake.
Last May 21, we signed an act of agreement with the Education Ministry; those terms, however, have been delayed by the national government, specifically the Minister of Education. We agreed on a text, and it was written, but the spirit of what was agreed to hasn't come to fruition, ' said Ramirez.
The most blaring inconsistency has to do with the state's allegedly continued delinquency on the sizable debts it owes its education employees.
Today, the [Education] Ministry's debt to retired pension and benefits funds exceeds $49 million. We're asking the government to open up just $1. 7 million in the budget it is supposed to pass October 31 to go toward the amortization of its debt, ' added Ramirez.
One of the more pressing concerns for FECODE regarding the government's faulty debt payments is the financial welfare of education employees whose contracts have been terminated, in many cases because of cost-cutting measures.
'Right now we have been notified of 15, 000 severances but do not have the money to pay any of the teachers [their severance packages]. '

Miners.
Miners have been striking since July 17 demanding the repeal of a decree that orders for the destruction of machinery used in the informal, and according to the law illegal mining industry.
Stella Luz Ramirez, executive director of the Confederation of Colombian miners justified the strike, stating 'the national government has failed us twice. On July 25 last year we agreed not to strike because the government pledged to improve conditions in the sector, but they once again broke their word. This time, we will not yield. '
Miners are seeking the repeal of decree 2235 of 2012, which authorizes the destruction of machinery used in exploration of minerals without legal authorization.
Ramirez argues however, that the decree 'violates due process and the right to self defense' as it has led to the destruction of materials used in the informal mining industry.
Miners have called for the government to create a law, clearly differentiating between informal, and illegal mining.

Rice growers.
Rice growers are striking as the government has failed to respond to their letters, in which they have put forward a four point plan that they feel could bring the sector out of its current state of crisis.
The rice farmers' four main propositions are as follows:
•Prices: The first point that the farmers are claiming is related to establishing new base prices per field, per year, which, according to producers, would allow them to judge how much each harvest would make and how much to sow.
•Control of imports: Another demand is that the government shut off the importation of rice from the United States and Andean Community Nations (CAN) such as Peru and Ecuador due to the increase that they say internal demand has on prices.
•Contraband: In addition to these imports, rice farmers point to contraband as a factor in the sector's troubles. More stringent border control from the government is called for to stem the entry of contraband rice into Colombia.
•Modernization: Finally the farmers are asking for resources in order to modernize, in particular, machinery for the post-harvesting process.

Sugar cane cutters.
Sugar cane cutters want to be directly hired for the companies that they work for.
Prior to the reform of Colombian labor law in 1990, this was the case. The legislation however, allowed for the sub-contracting of work through labor intermediaries which severed the relationship between employee and employer.
Jhonsson Torres, Vice President of Sinalcorteros (sugar cane union) explained the impact of the legislation.
The law ended labor stability for workers. This was when the plantations took advantage and removed the cane cutters from collective bargaining agreements. We became contractors, ' said Torres. 'My father made good money. We lost all that. '

Putumayo peasants.
Putumayo peasants are striking because they disapprove of the governments manual eradication of coca in the region.
Many of Putumayo's peasants grow coca as they say it is their only means of economic income.
Without adequate alternative development plans in place, the destruction of coca crops in the region leaves the peasants with no viable source of income, they say.

[quote]"One compels respect from others when one knows how to defend one's dignity as a human being. This is not only true in private life; it has always been the same in political life as well.

Political rights do not originate in parliaments; they are rather forced upon them from without. All political rights and liberties which people enjoy to-day, they do not owe.

To the good will of their governments, but to their own strength. Governments have always employed every means in their power to prevent the attainment of.

These rights or render them illusory. Great mass movements and whole revolutions have been necessary to wrest them from the ruling classes, who would never have consented to them voluntarily. The whole history of the last three hundred years is proof of that."

Rudolph Rocker.[/quote]Odd the way one's current readings align with events of the day. Since he died over 50 years ago, it just goes to show how these principles are universal.

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1466845]From Colombia reports.

Coffee Farmers.

Coffee farmers are striking because the sector claim that subsidies promised by the government to compensate for falling international coffee prices has never reached farmers.

In March the government agreed to pay coffee farmers a subsidy known as the Grower Ingress Protection, which guarantees that they will not lose money with the fluctuation in grain prices.

The production costs of coffee are between $335 and $365, while its market price is approximately $245. The subsidy of $85 promised by the government barely compensates for the loss.

Vicor Correa, one of the coffee strikes organizers, told Colombia Reports however that such subsidies have 'not made it to the farmers yet. '

Truckers.

Truckers are striking against high gasoline prices.

In February the government raised the price of fuel by 6, resulting in a strike by the truckers. After no reduction in fuel costs, the truckers have decided to continue demonstrations...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg;1466654]It will be another communist country next year after the elections. A. G.[/QUOTE]We know one Paisa that will think that heaven will have arrived if that happens. Lucky for you, you are exempt from the "list."

Oh well, So much for the billions USA taxpayers paid for "Plan Colombia"

[quote=tweedled;1466913]oh well, so much for the billions usa taxpayers paid for "plan colombia"[/quote]

plan colombia was messy, it had "short run" written all over it. i wouldn't say a move left diminishes its real goals. it helped stabilize some things within the country and it got us a strong ally within the region, one that bordered an antagonistic country and also the biggest country (economically and geographically) in the region, along with two other nations as well. sure, part of the movement was combating leftists, but leftists militants, not the sentiment within the population. in the end, the u.s.a. basically got what it was after.

that and also the recent trade agreement with the usa certainly have their role in the current unrest. one of the things that i didn't see skimming that colombia reports swipe was that the rice farmers, among others, are seeing some of their crops confirep001ed and destroyed as part of that trade agreement, monsanto and big agra basically want a seed and equipment monopoly, which increases costs for farmers as profit margins were already slim to none. the same thing happened to usa farmers. enormous banks taking minuscule banks once again.

[QUOTE]Go to La Mayorista (after 9pm) for street actions. There are street actions in the night in El Centro as well, but too dangerous.[/QUOTE]There is a relative lack of street action in the Centro most nights, but some in San Diego more often than not. Personally I don' think it is all that dangerous, but that of course is a matter of how much risk you are willing to take.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1467073]There is a relative lack of street action in the Centro most nights, but some in San Diego more often than not. Personally I don' think it is all that dangerous, but that of course is a matter of how much risk you are willing to take.[/QUOTE]Is the walk from Ayura Metro Station to Mayorista safe at night?

[QUOTE=JustTheKid; 1466767]This my first trip to Colombia (in fact, South America). Must say, I am really enjoying Medellin. It is quite a happening city lot sof music and sporting events etc.

My only complaint so far is the lack of action in the evenings. All the casas are closed so there is not much to do if one doesn't like the strip joints.[/QUOTE]This is a legitimate complaint about MDE and a disadvantage in comparison to the DR and Costa Rica for those who have short trips. In those places you can just walk out the door at night into 100+ girls. This is why many guys go online to meet girls for night action in MDE. This is also an advantage of staying at The Mansion where girls are available for dates at night.

The opposite is true for those with extended trips. In the DR and Costa Rica, the guys who live there are limited to the same girls as tourists in general. You may meet a girl on her first day at The Del Rey but within a few weeks to a few months she will become a professional. In MDE there are many girls who don't work in strip clubs or have sex with a bunch of Gringos whose "fresh" attitude extends well beyond this. Even if you are able to find fresh attitudes with the girls in those places they are probably going to be 5's and 6's. In MDE these girls are 7's and 8's. Big difference IMO.

I hope so, jajajajaja.

A. G.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1466895]We know one Paisa that will think that heaven will have arrived if that happens. Lucky for you, you are exempt from the "list."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustTheKid; 1466842]Thanks Matt,

Yes understood.

But was really thinking more along the lines of bars for picking up working girls etc. The strip joints are very expensive compared to day time action. Doesn't seem to make sense to me.[/QUOTE]La mayorista is exactly that, bars for picking up working girls. I'm not sure why people call la mayorista "street action". Actually the centro strip joints aren't very expensive. Not as safe as many would like, but I wouldn't say expensive at all.

Thanks for the protest chatter. Always nice to know what's going on around down South America.

Does anybody have any intel / update on the Legendary "Wendy Inc"? She still in the game? Gringo Sponsor? Actual Novio? Got a baby put in her by a useless Colombian Dude? Found God? Enrolled in some sort of university or language school?

I'm headed down in a few months and I hope to track her down for a date. Finally! She is hard to get a hold of. For obvious reasons! LOL!

[QUOTE=Jinxx;1467264]La mayorista is exactly that, bars for picking up working girls. I'm not sure why people call la mayorista "street action".l.[/QUOTE]Probably because most of the girls are on the street.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1467281]Probably because most of the girls are on the street.[/QUOTE]Yea they're on a street. A street full of pickup bars.

The words "street action" make me think of a "track" or corner where streetwalkers stroll getting in and out of cars. La mayorista is a strip of bars where you can invite a lady to drink with you then if you like her you can use the short time motel or back to your own place.

I don't think anybody would recommend that you pull up to la mayorista in a taxi and pick up a chica without getting down from the car. I'm sure it can be done but it isn't the standard procedure.

Yes. But I guess it depends on you!

[QUOTE=Cm6363;1467126]Is the walk from Ayura Metro Station to Mayorista safe at night?[/QUOTE]

To answer some questions, the walk from the station to the Mayorista is safe at night, but then again I also think the Centro strip clubs are safe. I have never seen anything more than a fist fight near there and at most have had to shove a gamin (bum) or two off me. I lived in the Centro and have spent time there outside of that. Yes, it is not good to linger around where there are no people or dilly dally near the museum, but the bars themselves are safe to arrive at in a taxi or even talk from a short distance IMO.

Agreed that the Mayo is not real "street action." Near Prado metro station and throughout San Diego and some parts of downtown, there is legit street action at times. I know there is some elsewhere, too, but haven't really found it. You can luck out and find a nice one in SD. Prior to this trip, I was a little squeamish about the street girls, but I found two very nice ones that have proven trustworthy and provide excellent service. Both 18, neither does any hard drugs.

[quote=jinxx; 1467294]yea they're on a street. a street full of pickup bars.

the words "street action" make me think of a "track" or corner where streetwalkers stroll getting in and out of cars. la mayorista is a strip of bars where you can invite a lady to drink with you then if you like her you can use the short time motel or back to your own place.

i don't think anybody would recommend that you pull up to la mayorista in a taxi and pick up a chica without getting down from the car. i'm sure it can be done but it isn't the standard procedure.[/quote]ok ok, it's not classic street action, like on a street corner.

and the street is not really full of pickup bars, it's mostly full of little short time motels, a few little divey restaurants, with a few rep001tered bars.

the vast majority of the chicas don't hang in the bars, but on the street, waiting for possible customers.

you don't have to invite her for a drink or enter any bar, you can just approach and choose.

it's really more of a controlled street action.

Ah, wish I had known that a few days ago. Yeah, 'street action' is totally the wrong term for it then. It's 'bar action'.

[QUOTE=Jinxx;1467264]La mayorista is exactly that, bars for picking up working girls. I'm not sure why people call la mayorista "street action". Actually the centro strip joints aren't very expensive. Not as safe as many would like, but I wouldn't say expensive at all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1467313]To answer some questions, the walk from the station to the Mayorista is safe at night.[/QUOTE]I'll respectfully disagree with this one. It's a long poorly lit walk. Frank Casio and a group of his boarders got mugged at gun point right off of this metro station. Old history but things haven't gotten better.

What are the going rates at these two clubs now?

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1465195]San Diego continues to fuck around for the minimum, they try and hit you 95K for half bottle of booze or some bullshit. I have a favorite there but we just hang around outside the place. I do not know too much about the quality of the girls at the moment, it was decent in February when I was last there. At this point, SD is actually pricier than Fase II, which is weird to me as I recall when SD was about 50% the price.

Could anyone help with some daytime spots in MDE? What's a good general time to hit up the casas / bars?

I create a profile with a new hotmail. Com account. Then I give Medellin as my place of living. Then FB automatically starts to send me samples of people in Medellin, to become friend with.

Use the word " chica", modelo","paisa" and some pages with models turn up, groups, or girls that have followers.

When you search friends there are a button to choose geografic location, I have there Copenhagen, where I was born, and Medellin as current location. FB gives you opportunity to search friends via some criteria, choose,"living in " = Medellin.

When you see babes in hot fotos it's a good chance just to ask her if she want to hook up, come to your hotel.

Then she have friends which are similar to her.

Running out of become friend option happens rapidly, but then you just choose follow, or just send a message.

I discovered this at the end of my last trip, FB is free and much more efficient than Cupid or any other site.

It's a revolution, both for the girls and the mongerers. Free, quick response, and close to unlimited supply of hot paisas!

But for sure there are many pretty girls in MDE that looks, for sex, sex for money, boyfriend from a rich country, husband.

Take into account tthat according to statistics I read. 80% of the population is young in MDE. 0-18 or 0-25 y/o.

It should become 800,000 girls 18-27 or 20-30 y/o.

Then a lot of hot girl move from their small towns to find work, study, prepago working in Medellin, so there are even more young good looking girls.

That leaves us with maybe 100,000 10 point girls. 100,000 9 point girls. Etc. Or maybe 50% of those figures and the place is still a paradise because of the liberal attitude towards selling sex or buying it. It is so common that I think every Colombian man goes to prepagos from time to time, no matter if he is single, have a girlfriend, lover, or a wife!

And since there is a hard competition for attention and the lack of regular work it creates a very good ratio in your favour. A friend in Medellin tells me that if they ask for 200 mil COP, he talk them down to 100 k COP, which represents 3 days work for 1-2 hours of sex. And that's why they are so eager to become prepagos part time, they can then work a few hours and then focus on studies. Or parting, buying expensive accessoars.

I have been astound how many good looking girls sell their services via FB. Just look for girls with sexy fotos and the chance seems to be at least 50% that she is a part time prepago. At least.

How does one go about finding a chica in mde for todo la noche?

[QUOTE=Monger#77;1467987]How does one go about finding a chica in mde for todo la noche?[/QUOTE]Pretty much the same way its done worldwide [url]http://www.dongordo.com/[/url]

Facebook is certainly very helpful but like any of the various avenues for p4p. Do your homework! Photos in profiles can be deceptive. They can be old photos or shot at a more flattering angle. I setup a date with one chica and the girl that arrived was 30lbs heavier after childbirth. Still attractive, service was good but will not repeat. Luckily, I got her below the market rate.

Many mansion girls have their profiles on FB but I am not sure about talking them down by 50. There is usually some room for negotiation so you chat with them and see what's her vibe. With FB messenger, I don't even need a cellular number anymore. It's great just using FB via WiFi. They have free Wifi in most of the malls now, I can girlwatch while continuing to work my FB contacts by chatting. I didn't buy into a data plan, I was not that in a rush.

There IS no substitute for a face-to-face meeting that you can have at the Mansion, strip club, casa, dance club but FB can be a valuable additional tool for hobbying.

Yes, I agree. However, I have other interests too, and I love a good late dinner, and I need to sleep, so FB is the perfect tool for me.

Since I'm 40 why-o I feel that I need this kind of sex as a kind of top priority, and I have choosen long vacations, up to total 5 months a year and exluded car, children, wife, house. It does not help that my novia is model, she only makes my hormone levels rise from high MDE-level to a state of mind where I feel free from anxiety, enjoying the time with her and "the others" completly, wiping out all negative energy of me.

I have had as a strategy to take1-2 days of the week and focus on sex entirely. I have 4-5 different girls, which with transport and calling girls on paisasdivinas, masajistaspaisas etc, which can be a slow process, it takes at least 10 hours to complete 5 sessions. I start the day with a steady breakfast, and overdosing Viagra, Cialis and Levitra. Then I need a lot of water, and Zero alcohol, as it can be tempting to sit down and have a beer, but I do that at 9pm, maybe in company of a hot paisa! To make the marathon experience possible, I come only with the last girl, which requieres discipline, but Viagra makes it so much easier, not only to get and hold a perfect erection, but it tighten the penis so much so it becomes easy to control the ejeaculation impulse. Maximum lust and sexual frustration for 10 hours. Then my penis is swollen 1-2-3 days and need total rest, since the prepagos tries hard to make me come (rapidly) , but they can't) the poor thing is attacked fiercley all day long.

With independent semi-prepagos from FB I can invite them to my hotel / apartment and save a lot of time and energy, but actually I have to say that it is a risk of getting robbed, but I will go for it, those hours in the taxi and cafees feel very long indeed.

I had my best sessions with one girl in Poblado, but it is too far away from Estadio / Suramericana where I always stay. In Las Americas, Cra. San Juan (78) and 42-20; they had 5 good looking girls giving excellent service. The price was 120+40 for BBBJ, but they pay 30 to the house, hence they make 130, but if one can have a deal, for example not less than 3 sessions. 100 +taxi can be accepted I have heared from a monger-friend who lives permanently in MDE. They, coming to my apartment / hotel, it would be great, but my sweet girls in the reception would of course think what the hell of mission I m performing.

Super important, Dear fellow mongers: I must add that at the Studio San Juan (78) and 42-20 became a sexual success, following my maximum lust-frustration-imposiblle-to make me-cum-program, completed with 100% hygien. I carried clothes to be able to change after every session. I took a shower or jaccuzi bath before leaving my hotel. I brought my aftershave, shampoo and showered cleaning my body carefully before and after every session. Plus: I used, with the girl, alocohol desinfection cream. Me or she used it on my penis, hands etc. And on her also. This really made them relax! They felt secure with me, since STD is a risk in their work. 100% clean and 100% gentleman and I got super service! High quality condoms is also a must since cheaper ones have a tendency to crack.

Next move can be to skip the prepagos and focus on my novia- and her sexy and horney friends! She is very jealous, so it is a hard task to persuade her that I need this sex, since if the multiple sex is not performed it leaves me with a "permanent" frustration" and low hormone levels! Well, she and her friends, like 4000 other paisas, are working as webcam models, so I hope to use that as an argument, for me to have my share of the good things in life. Her friends are on it, she gets jealous at me for only looking at a hottie! I accept and enjoy her modelling since I'm a fan of Latina pornostars like Lupe Fuentes (Little Lupe) and other Pocahontas-girls.

Prepagos:

[url]http://www.paisasdivinas.com/catalina_spa/cata-prepago-medellin.php[/url]

, and.

[url]http://masajistaspaisas.com/fabiana-villareal-apartamento-privado-prepagos-85835.html[/url]

At San Juan both very very nice, I can not find the other 3 at San Juan.

[url]http://masajistaspaisas.com/daniela-prepago-medellin-prepagos-35131.html[/url]

Poblado Maybe 30 why-o supergood service, except for not permitting BBBJ. She called me 10 min. After I had left, I had forgotten a bag in her apartment which she brought to the gate, she was also taking a taxi, she huged and kissed me in the street on my cheek in front of everyone there, it felt strange, but of course very nice.

[QUOTE=Almotu; 1468019]Facebook is certainly very helpful but like any of the various avenues for p4p. Do your homework! Photos in profiles can be deceptive. They can be old photos or shot at a more flattering angle. I setup a date with one chica and the girl that arrived was 30lbs heavier after childbirth. Still attractive, service was good but will not repeat. Luckily, I got her below the market rate.

Many mansion girls have their profiles on FB but I am not sure about talking them down by 50. There is usually some room for negotiation so you chat with them and see what's her vibe. With FB messenger, I don't even need a cellular number anymore. It's great just using FB via WiFi. They have free Wifi in most of the malls now, I can girlwatch while continuing to work my FB contacts by chatting. I didn't buy into a data plan, I was not that in a rush.

There IS no substitute for a face-to-face meeting that you can have at the Mansion, strip club, casa, dance club but FB can be a valuable additional tool for hobbying.[/QUOTE]

Visited there today. Was very impressed with the line up. Maybe not so many girls to choose from (about 7 or 8) but the quality was very good.

I chose Luna (aka Tania). Unfortunately turned out to be a bad choice. She is very cute and has a great bod (nice tits and wait, but small butt I'm afraid) , only 20 yoa. She also speaks EN a little, which I have found to be rare indeeed among casa chicas. She told me she is studying psychology. Personally, I don't think she should give up on that just yet. She has only been working 1 week (she says) and she was a pretty poor actress, had to be said.

Real shame because she was one horny looking chick!

Next time, I'll choose one of the other 4 or 5 good looking girls they had and find someone with more experience.

This makes a hell of a lotta sense VB. Thanks.

I myself am looking to move on from ST pregpagos to something more LT (by that I mean 2-3 months LOL)

But one question, how good is your Spanish? I'd be afraid of misunderstanding with my limited Spanish.

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1467885]I create a profile with a new hotmail. Com account. Then I give Medellin as my place of living. Then FB automatically starts to send me samples of people in Medellin, to become friend with.

Use the word " chica", modelo","paisa" and some pages with models turn up, groups, or girls that have followers.

When you search friends there are a button to choose geografic location, I have there Copenhagen, where I was born, and Medellin as current location. FB gives you opportunity to search friends via some criteria, choose,"living in " = Medellin.

When you see babes in hot fotos it's a good chance just to ask her if she want to hook. Up, come to your hotel.

Then she have friends which are similar to her.

Running out of become friend option happens rapidly, but then you just choose follow, or just send a message...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Digits; 1467684]What are the going rates at these two clubs now?

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1465195]San Diego continues to fuck around for the minimum, they try and hit you 95K for half bottle of booze or some bullshit. I have a favorite there but we just hang around outside the place. I do not know too much about the quality of the girls at the moment, it was decent in February when I was last there. At this point, SD is actually pricier than Fase II, which is weird to me as I recall when SD was about 50% the price.[/QUOTE]Fase II. 170K, San Diego. 180K. I do not know if it is supposed to be 40 minutes or one hour or what. I think at F2 it's an hour, I stayed that long without a knock once, less the other time. In SD I think it is supposedly 40 minutes but I stayed once for well over an hour without a knock. I find that tipping whomever watches the rooms is a good idea. Anything from 2K to 5K, which is chump change, will get you and your lady friend unlimited time in basically any casa.

I'm glad others are finding value here but to me this man is writing a lot and saying very little of value. He is pointing to obvious places, giving odd suggestions and also dishing out some misinformation. I had a longer response typed out but I don't want to step on toes or break any board rules. I am just saying, the veteran guys can see some holes, the less experienced guys should use common sense.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1468434]I'm glad others are finding value here but to me this man is writing a lot and saying very little of value. He is pointing to obvious places, giving odd suggestions and also dishing out some misinformation. I had a longer response typed out but I don't want to step on toes or break any board rules. I am just saying, the veteran guys can see some holes, the less experienced guys should use common sense.[/QUOTE]I am a fan of the casa! They always seem to get the job done

Can someone comment on the best way to get to Poblado from the airport? If a taxi is the best option, do they vary in price?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1468567]Can someone comment on the best way to get to Poblado from the airport? If a taxi is the best option, do they vary in price?[/QUOTE]I always use guys with private cars instead of taxis. For me it keeps down the image of what someone coming from the airport in a yellow taxi portrays: A person with a pocket full of cash and possibly a laptop and a few smart phones on him.

PM me if you want the guy I use. He is a very professional guy and speaks English, puts all of your bags in the trunk of his car, and knows where he is going ahead of time. You make your reservation with him via email and he will email you back to confirm everything. I also use him for return trips back to the airport. If he tells you he will be there to pick you up at 5am, he will be there by 4:59am.

Airport:

The airport in Medellin is fairly well laid out no major hitches or extreme security checks, no visa tax or fee either coming or leaving.

Transportations:

I arranged for the Mansion to pick me up at the airport cost was around 70,000 pesos, I looked into other options and drivers and all seemed to be charging around the same price. The drive from the airport to the Mansion was around twenty minutes give or take.

Once at the mansion I used taxis which were safe, fair and reliable, all drivers I had used their meter and cost was relatively inexpensive to get around town. The mansion will call a taxi for you and take the license plate number of the driver.

Medellin:

I stayed at the Mansion so the neighborhood and that part of the city was very nice clean upper scale and I felt perfectly safe.

The Mansion:

In my opinion the Mansion is the place to be in Medellin [url]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/url] And I was very happy I stayed there. The place is clean safe quiet and comfortable, the staff was very attentive polite and ready to help. There is a great group of guys there, many of whom will be more than happy to show you around and teach you the ropes if it is your first time in Medellin.

I was a little apprehensive at first about staying at the Mansion, I've met mongers from Asia to the Caribbean, Central and South America who have stayed there and all had warned me about the owner Aussie Greg. I only met him once while I was there and he struck me as a polite quite hospitable guy. He seemed like a pretty nice guy to me.

The women usually start arriving around 2. M and would generally hang around the pool area or inside the front parlor until about 6. M when the bar at the Mansion La Cueva would open, then they would go down stairs to the La Cuava, many would hang around until midnight or 1:am. Some days seemed to have more girls than other days and some times seemed to have more girls than other times. Often there would be a dozen or so and at other times there may be just two or three. The girls to my knowledge do not work for the mansion but if need be they can call and invite some girls to come over and visit.

I personally thought the women at the mansion were super hot, In my opinion there was never at any time anything less than an 8 and most of the women I seen, were in my opinion in the 9 or 10 category, I was very, very, very, pleased with the quality of women I found at the Mansion and also the quality of service I received from the mansion girls.

The Mansion is located at the end of a dead end street on your right, it is a nice neighborhood, so don't worry about the dead end street. Leaving the Mansion and walking down to the corner and then turning right the next street you come to will be a major street and across the street you will find a nice shopping center McDonalds the Oviado (sp?) mall which has money exchanges in the mall that are easy to find and a super market, nice clean safe upper class area. You can also walk down to this area to pick up a taxi, as stated above I found the taxis to be safe inexpensive and reliable. A good land mark to use and one that I used when walking back to the mansion is look for the tall office building with dark aquarium green windows it is on the street you take to walk back up to the mansion.

I never found out why but it is not a good thing to talk about Mayorista (sp?) at the mansion. This was my first time in Medellin and I had read about Mayorista as well as the other monger location in Medellin and I was curious to check them out, but was told by some of the vets at the mansion not to mention that word around the staff at the Mansion.

I visited many of the monger locations in Medellin by taxi and found them to all be a relatively short cab ride from the mansion maybe ten to twenty minutes tops.

The Mansion chicas are friendly but not overly aggressive; it's not like Rumbas or D'Latin in Sosua or the Del Ray or Sportsman's in SJ. That is they do not overtly try to make eye contact with you and approach you. But all it will take is you going up to them and politely introducing yourself and asking if she would like to come back to your room. Within two minutes or less of introducing myself to a chica at the mansion I was on my way back to my room with her.

San Diego, Fase Dose:

Visited both of these strip clubs several times, there is a 10, 000 peso cover charge to enter. Both clubs were nice both had some HOT women in them and in my opinion the quality of women in both were about the same, however, Fase Dose charges more. These clubs were nice but pale in comparison to many of the gogo bars in Asia or even the Hong Kong Club in Tijuana. There are girls standing around or drinking with customers who are available to go to the back room with you, a girl will strip on stage but the show is nothing like you will find in Asia or even the HK in Tijuana, after she is done striping she will walk around to all of the customers for a tip and even ask if you want to go to the back room with here while another girl takes her turn on stage. The rooms at both places were not bad reminded me of the same type of rooms you will find in the thermas (sp?) in Rio. I received good service from the girls I took from there but always confirmed before taking them that BBBJ and DATY were on the menu at the agreed upon price. I also noticed some of the San Diego girls hanging out at the Mansion during the day time.

Mayorista:

Visited this street once, as stated above not a good thing to mention this place at the Mansion, it is basically two blocks or so long with girls standing on one side of the street or walking up and down the street. There are some bars and restaurants and short time hotels. I felt perfectly safe there and believe the area to be perfectly safe and was a short cab ride from the Mansion. There were some attractive women there, however, many were past the expiration date and should have retired some time ago. The short time hotels were clean safe modern and the short time price was inexpensive 20,000 pesos for the half hour. Price for the chicas was relatively inexpensive; some must have seen me as a newbie and tried quoting me $100 USA and then came down to $50 USA but most were quoting me 30,000 to 50,000 pesos for the half hour. As stated there are some attractive doable women there but even at the bargain basement price I found it hard to justify going when there were nine's and tens prancing around the Mansion who didn't fuck you but made love to you.

Facebook:

I was told before going down there is no central place to pick up P4P chicas and had read some reports that said the Mansion no longer had girls coming over to hang out. All of this is not true, however, I made several Facebook dates before coming to Medellin all of which I regret. I found once I arrived at the mansion many of the Facebook dates I made were already Mansion chicas hanging around so there was really no need to set up Facebook dates with them. The ones that were not already Mansion chicas that came over were ok but did not live up to their pictures in Facebook in my opinion and with the exception of one if I had seen them at the Mansion I probably would not of chosen them. All of the Facebook dates wanted cab money as well as the fee and none of the Facebook dates would give BBBJ all gave CBJ, whereas every Mansion chica I had gave BBBJ. In retrospect I regret making the Facebook dates and on my future trips I will skip Facebook all together.

Chicas:

In my opinion the women of Medellin were hot, it seemed no matter where I was I could find women I considered to be nine's and ten's. As stated above I thought the women at the Mansion were an eight or above, I thought many of the women at San Diego and Fase Dose were hot and there were some attractive women to be had on Mayorista.

Prices:

At the Mansion the standard price is 150,000 pesos for a couple hours or so, at San Diego strip club the girls seem to set their own price and I was quoted anywhere from 100, 000 pesos to 150,000 pesos for the half hour. On Mayorista the general quote was anywhere from 30,000 pesos to 50,000 pesos for the half hour plus 20,000 for the short time room.

Services:

Every Mansion girl gave me BBBJ DATY and DFK and all gave me great service. The San Diego girls also gave me great service. The Mayorista girl was a little more like a typical USA street walker in attitude or a Tijuana door girl in price, It required a tip for complete nudity and an additional tip for BBBJ.

Liquid Lounge:

Asked about it every night and tried going twice, The place was pretty slow every time I went practically no one there each time I went just a couple Mansion chicas hanging out. I don't wish ill on anyone but personally I would rather the place not be there. If successful the Mansion chicas will start hanging out there at night and not the La Cueva at the Mansion which means you will have to take a cab over there and then a cab back once you pick your chica, the way it is now the chicas are already at the Mansion all you have to do is go down stairs and pick the one you want and walk her back to your room.

Money:

Everything works in Columbian Pesos so you will have to exchange your money. The mansion does not exchange money but there are money exchanges at the Oviado mall just a block or so from the Mansion, an easy and safe walk. If you book the driver through the mansion you can ask him to stop and exchange money before he drops you off at the mansion.

Safety:

I felt very safe everywhere I went, the mansion and the local neighborhood is very safe, I felt safe at Mayorista, I felt safe at the strip clubs and I felt safe being transported by the Taxis. I believe for the most part provided you don't do anything stupid or are not into stupid things Mongering in Medellin is very safe.

Language:

Spanish is the official language, I don't speak Spanish but had no problem getting around and communicating. The P4P chicas all know what you are there for and it will not be hard to come to an arrangement with them. Some of the staff at the mansion speak English and many of the Mansion vets who will take you under their wing either speak Spanish or have been around enough that they will be able to assist in anything you will need.

Final Thoughts:

I was pleasantly surprised by the Mansion, Medellin and the Columbian women. I barely scratched the surface of mongering on this trip but have already booked the flight for my return visit. Three trips to Asia a trip to Rio and countless trips to POP have given me enough points for a free trip back to MDE. I was pleased with the Mansion the quality of women available there and the service provided by them. I also liked the other P4P options available in Medellin. I was disappointed in the whole Facebook hook up thing just as I was disappointed in the DIA thing when I went to Asia and will avoid this on my future trips.

Chris

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1468586]I always use guys with private cars instead of taxis. For me it keeps down the image of what someone coming from the airport in a yellow taxi portrays: A person with a pocket full of cash and possibly a laptop and a few smart phones on him.

PM me if you want the guy I use. He is a very professional guy and speaks English, puts all of your bags in the trunk of his car, and knows where he is going ahead of time. You make your reservation with him via email and he will email you back to confirm everything. I also use him for return trips back to the airport. If he tells you he will be there to pick you up at 5am, he will be there by 4:59am.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I already got a private car quote for 72, 000 pesos. Does that seem reasonable? I paid $30 US in 2010.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1468593]Thanks. I already got a private car quote for 72, 000 pesos. Does that seem reasonable? I paid $30 US in 2010.[/QUOTE]Yep. That's what my guy charges as well.

Chris,

I've heard lots of guys openly discuss Mayorista at the Mansion with no discomfort. It seems odd that you thought it was a no-no to bring it up. Having said that, IMO, it's nothing to write home about. If I feel like venturing out of the friendly confines of the Mansion, I generally have better luck in FaseII, LL, or even the Centro clubs than Mayorista.

Hola, got here yesterday at 6 pm, in La Cueva at 8 hooked up w / my first 19 yr old Evelyn.

She was spectacular for TLN and a sex monster, would not leave me alone finally came around 3am and then no sleep for 5 hrs, couldn't drift off.

Today I met Carolyne at La Cueva (met on FB) a cherubic 19 yr old blond and w / a little guidance she turned out to be a great little dick sucker. I don't come unless the sex is great. So far so very good. There was one stunner from last night that I really want, I hope I get her. So many hot chicas here that my next 3 day are booked. While at La Cueva w Carolyne there was a very energetic chica w / big white titties and a Hollywood face. They were doing shots of Tequila and her dancing told me she would be a really good fuck. So I have a date w / her Friday and a date w / the famous Demi on Sunday. There is so much good talent here I almost changed my mind about Demi but she is a Colombian icon. I have a lot of time so I will be screwing some incredible flesh these next 7 days. I love these hookers (some have regular jobs or school) in Medellin, they have class and want to please. I'm a lucky man.

My buddy Lefeu is doing rather well too.

Ciao

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1468589]In my opinion the Mansion is the place to be in Medellin.

[url]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/url]

And I was very happy I stayed there. The place is clean safe quiet and comfortable, the staff was very attentive polite and ready to help. There is a great group of guys there, many of whom will be more than happy to show you around and teach you the ropes if it is your first time in Medellin.

I personally thought the women at the mansion were super hot, In my opinion there was never at any time anything less than an 8 and most of the women I seen, were in my opinion in the 9 or 10 category, I was very, very, very, pleased with the quality of women I found at the Mansion and also the quality of service I received from the mansion girls.[/QUOTE]It sounds like The Mansion was the highlight of your trip. I have recommended The Mansion many times to first timers visiting Medellin. A base of hot girls, other guys and staff to answer questions, etc. When I was at The Mansion about 2 1/2 years ago most of the guys would hang with the girls in the common living area for 1-2 hours before taking them. I found most of the girls to be sweet and patient. Was this what was happening or were guys just grabbing them and taking them to the room. Also, how long was the total time that you spent with each Mansion girl on average?

I am a little surprised that a guy with your experience didn't check out the Centro casas. You will have to put it on the list for next trip. If you want to spend a little more money check out Abydos, Energy, Blue Room, or Loutron.

Nice report.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1468593]Thanks. I already got a private car quote for 72, 000 pesos. Does that seem reasonable? I paid $30 US in 2010.[/QUOTE]Regular taxis only cost a fixed 59k from the airport. No meter.

[QUOTE=Socker; 1468694]Hola, got here yesterday at 6 pm, in La Cueva at 8 hooked up w / my first 19 yr old Evelyn.

She was spectacular for TLN and a sex monster, would not leave me alone finally came around 3am and then no sleep for 5 hrs, couldn't drift off.

Today I met Carolyne at La Cueva (met on FB) a cherubic 19 yr old blond and w / a little guidance she turned out to be a great little dick sucker. I don't come unless the sex is great. So far so very good. There was one stunner from last night that I really want, I hope I get her. So many hot chicas here that my next 3 day are booked. While at La Cueva w Carolyne there was a very energetic chica w / big white titties and a Hollywood face. They were doing shots of Tequila and her dancing told me she would be a really good fuck. So I have a date w / her Friday and a date w / the famous Demi on Sunday. There is so much good talent here I almost changed my mind about Demi but she is a Colombian icon. I have a lot of time so I will be screwing some incredible flesh these next 7 days. I love these hookers (some have regular jobs or school) in Medellin, they have class and want to please. I'm a lucky man.

My buddy Lefeu is doing rather well too.

Ciao[/QUOTE]I understand that you are very well versed in the Philippine offerings, too. It's great that you're having a good time in the City of Eternal Spring. Only good energy from your report. It echos my observations about the girls of Medellin too. I'd love to read about the comparisons and contrasts of the Paisa and the Pinay girls, if you have time and inclination to share your observations and conclusions. Meanwhile, we're trying to keep Medellin for ourselves, so don't tell anybody. .

Only good energy, amgio

[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff; 1468724]It sounds like The Mansion was the highlight of your trip. I have recommended The Mansion many times to first timers visiting Medellin. A base of hot girls, other guys and staff to answer questions, etc. When I was at The Mansion about 2 1/2 years ago most of the guys would hang with the girls in the common living area for 1-2 hours before taking them. I found most of the girls to be sweet and patient. Was this what was happening or were guys just grabbing them and taking them to the room. Also, how long was the total time that you spent with each Mansion girl on average?

I am a little surprised that a guy with your experience didn't check out the Centro casas. You will have to put it on the list for next trip. If you want to spend a little more money check out Abydos, Energy, Blue Room, or Loutron.

Nice report.[/QUOTE]Just a couple of questions from someone considering going a first time.

How does the rotation work? Are there women there all the time 24/7? Or do they show up at certain parts of the day? Which days of the week are best? Weekdays better than weekends? (I remember reading the forum in the past, and someone said that the women like to go off and do their own thing on the weekends).

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1468898]Just a couple of questions from someone considering going a first time.

How does the rotation work? Are there women there all the time 24/7? Or do they show up at certain parts of the day? Which days of the week are best? Weekdays better than weekends? (I remember reading the forum in the past, and someone said that the women like to go off and do their own thing on the weekends).[/QUOTE]If Boyd is there you can talk to him and he will help you find what you are looking for via his facebook amigas. But no, there are not chicas there 24/7. They have to be invited over by the Mansion staff.

During the day can be kind of slow (even on weekends) , but picks up in the evening closer to La Cueva opening.

The better question is are the Mansion chicas now being made to go to Liquid Lounge as they try to get that venture of the ground? If that is the case, then is La Cueva being shut down on these nights?

Taken from C R T [b]by Brown_Cobra[/b] (a guy who was staying at the Mansion last week):

"all Mansion girls are visiting Liquid Lounge at night. I am not sure what's the point staying at the Mansion anymore!!! Mansion will be happy to shut down the bar if there is a big party at Liquid Lounge. They both have same owners!!!!"

Guys,

I am heading to Colombia for 12 days at the end of the month. 4 days in each Cartagena, Bogotá & Medellin. I am looking for some good reliable girls to meet in these places so could anyone PM me some contact details of chica's you would recommend or any other advice for a newbie to Colombia. I will post a report on my return, any help would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Socker; 1468694]Hola, got here yesterday at 6 pm, in La Cueva at 8 hooked up w / my first 19 yr old Evelyn.

She was spectacular for TLN and a sex monster, would not leave me alone finally came around 3am and then no sleep for 5 hrs, couldn't drift off.

Today I met Carolyne at La Cueva (met on FB) a cherubic 19 yr old blond and w / a little guidance she turned out to be a great little dick sucker. I don't come unless the sex is great. So far so very good.

My buddy Lefeu is doing rather well too.

Ciao[/QUOTE]Good to hear that the Mansion is still hopping. Don't you mean Evelin R? And Carolyne is a bit plump no? Studying fashion? I hope the rest of your trip goes just as well!

[QUOTE=PolandSpring1;1468773]Regular taxis only cost a fixed 59k from the airport. No meter.[/QUOTE]Thanks. That is about what I paid in 2010.

SP, please get your facts right.

If Boyd is there you can talk to him and he will help you find what you are looking for via his facebook amigas. But no, there are not chicas there 24/7.
A. G.
I think Boyd is back early November.

They have to be invited over by the Mansion staff.
A. G.
The mansion staff do not invite any girls over, and by the way, the hotel is called Hotel Medellin Plaza, has done for 2 years now.

During the day can be kind of slow (even on weekends) , but picks up in the evening closer to La Cueva opening.
A. G.
Depends, I could check the entry list for you if you like and give the day to day numbers but put it this way. A guest wrote here once that there was only 5-6 girls come on over and when I looked at the entry list he was far out, the correct number was 10 to 15 each afternoon over the few days that he said.
Guests invited there female friends and also girls come over for the pool and fashion shop that we have. The hotel is also having a hairdressing shop built.
La Cueva the bar at the hotel opens at 6. 00pm every night so the bar invites and agrees for people to enter the bar "not hotel staff"
La Cueva is a different company that runs the bar at the hotel.

The better question is are the Mansion chicas now being made to go to Liquid Lounge.
A. G.
I don't think so and by the way LL is a bar where any girl / person can enter, if I was a **** / dirty working girl and wanted to make money, I'd probley go there too.

As they try to get that venture of the ground?
A. G.
Who is "they"? Boyd and myself are not share holders, wouldn't have touched it even if they gave me shares but I wish them luck.

If that is the case, then is La Cueva being shut down on these nights?
A. G.
Jajajaja, you wouldn't know would you! For your information, La Cueva is open 6. 00pm to late night / early morning. 7 nights a week.

Taken from C R T [b]by Brown_Cobra[/b] (a guy who was staying at the Mansion last week) :
"all Mansion girls are visiting Liquid Lounge at night.
A. G.
I don't think so but as LL is welcome to any girl who has a cedula then any girl can go I guess.

I am not sure what's the point staying at the Mansion anymore!
A. G.
So far this year, its our best year on record and we have been going for 9 years now, thanks guys.

Mansion will be happy to shut down the bar if there is a big party at Liquid Lounge.
A. G.
La Cueva has only done that once and that was for one of our best guests who wanted an big party which La Cueva could not cater for because of the size of the party.

They both have same owners!
A. G.
What a statement, I know I am not, I know Boyd is not and I only know that one of the partners of HMP and the owner of La Cueva helped the LL owners out for a month and a half getting the place renovated and up and running, whether he is a share owner, I really don't know, not my business, I have not been told and I have not asked.
All I say, good luck to them.
Inside information! The owners of LL are two long term repeat guests and a newbie who have stayed at HMP over the years, they all got drunk one night and said, lets do it! And I think that's the truth too.

A. G.

Can someone explain a few things. What exactly is La Cueva? If you stay at the Mansion, can you get in the Liquid Lounge for free? I remember there was a sister property / hotel linked to the Mansion. Is this place still open. Where exactly is Liquid Lounge if you are staying at the mansion.

Thanks

i'm a newby to medellin who visited each of these clubs once. we went to fase dos and la isla on a tuesday night and san diego on the next night, a wednesday.

fase dos was not happening when we arrived at 11pm. there were maybe 10 customers and 20 girls rep001tered through a space large enough for hundreds. the energy was low and the music super-loud. the girls stripped on an elevated runway. the interval between girls was quite lengthy. all the girls danced well, though none were over-the-top hot strippers. i approached a beauty (9 face, never saw her naked but probably 8+ body) and spent some time chatting. to my eyes she was the best there. most others were the "big ass big tits gordita" type popular among the colombian men. i never got around to asking the price, but i know it would have been high. i just wasn't feeling the vibe from her. eventually she wandered off and failed to return my text msg the next afternoon. cost for me and my buddy to enter fase dos and split a half-bottle of vodka with orange juice mixer was around 100mil cop each.

we next visited la isla, which was much better. maybe 40 men and 50+ girls? plus the girls were better dancers, and occasionally would dance two at a time. entrance and another half-bottle of vodka with mixer were about the same as fase dos, around 100mil cop for each of us. i chatted up one girl who was not one of the best there, but quite good (7. 5?) , and her opening offer was 700mil cop.

i didn't bother negotiating further. my buddy found a real hottie for 300k (a good price in that club) , plus multa (take-out fee) of 100mil or maybe 150mil. she was a 20-yo slender and tall girl who oozed sex appeal. we left in a taxi and she asked the taxi to stop as she had forgotten something. i got a nice view of her climbing the steps of the back entrance into the club, her impossibly-short skirt (really just the length of a t-shirt) bouncing halfway up her tight ass with each step. wonderful!

shortly after leaving la isla we were pulled over by a pair of policeman. they were searching for guns and / or drugs, which we did not have, so after a friendly pat-down and some discussion, we were on our way. no such thing as probable cause in colombia. i suspect if they had found something we would have been asked to pay our fine directly to the arresting officer. but who knows?

the next night we went to san diego show. this is a bit more of a down-and-dirty operation. costs are lower and girl quality also lower. however, amid a sea of gorditas, i did spot a tall-and-slender gem who i had to have. on-site cost was 150mil including room for one hour, though she didn't limit the time. this girl was actually quite spectacular, body-wise, though i think she had a surgically enhanced culo. service was skillful and enthusiastic. mid-way through she even surprised me by initiating dfk. searching for individual girls in clubs like this depends so much on your tastes. so i'm not going to report her name. just go and find what you like. or not. but it's fun to check it out. added note: all the girls here could dance and strip very well. one particular girl might have the best combination of body and dance ability i've ever seen. she came on-stage after my encounter with the tall-and-slender gem, as i waited for my buddy to finish his session, so i just admired from afar. who knows, maybe i'll return to sample her bedroom skills, as well.

btw, these clubs are no-smoking. as are all enclosed restaurants and bars and clubs in colombia. smoking is allowed in exterior patio areas, of which there are many. this is a big advantage of colombia over china, the other place i go.

H / R: La Cueva is inhouse party spot of the Mansion which was the parking garage I think. Basically it was created because the noise level poolside got to be too disruptive with the neighbors so at night the partying gets moved to La Cueva. If you stay at the Mansion or El Castillo, you can party at La Cueva. The good thing about that for the Mansion management is now that can make some money from alcohol with the cash bar since before guests would just bring their booze poolside.

The Liquid Lounge is a club located near Premium Plaza mall, Fase II and a bunch of other discos in Barrio Colombia. The investors are Mansion regulars and they have the business model to give mongers staying elsewhere access to the Mansion talent pool. Robert helps with the recruiting. They have a foosball table upstairs where there is a stripper pole. Esteef, one of the partners told me they just received an official stripper license from the local officials which should be interesting. They have a 10/12 foot screen with a HD projector connected to a slingbox in the US. Unfortunately, the opening NFL game didn't come through well. Its a work in progress that has great potential.

I was there in the neighbor and got to see some of the working Mansion girls which I would not have otherwise since I stayed in an apartment. Saw a bunch of guys already picked their dates for the night having a good time!

[quote=archimedes; 1469262]i'm a newby to medellin who visited each of these clubs once. we went to fase dos and la isla on a tuesday night and san diego on the next night, a wednesday.

fase dos was not happening when we arrived at 11pm. there were maybe 10 customers and 20 girls rep001tered through a space large enough for hundreds. the energy was low and the music super-loud. the girls stripped on an elevated runway. the interval between girls was quite lengthy. all the girls danced well, though none were over-the-top hot strippers. i approached a beauty (9 face, never saw her naked but probably 8+ body) and spent some time chatting. to my eyes she was the best there. most others were the "big ass big tits gordita" type popular among the colombian men. i never got around to asking the price, but i know it would have been high. i just wasn't feeling the vibe from her. eventually she wandered off and failed to return my text msg the next afternoon. cost for me and my buddy to enter fase dos and split a half-bottle of vodka with orange juice mixer was around 100mil cop each.

we next visited la isla, which was much better. maybe 40 men and 50+ girls? plus the girls were better dancers, and occasionally would dance two at a time. entrance and another half-bottle of vodka with mixer were about the same as fase dos, around 100mil cop for each of us. i chatted up one girl who was not one of the best there, but quite good (7. 5?) , and her opening offer was 700mil cop.

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i didn't bother negotiating further. my buddy found a real hottie for 300k (a good price in that club) , plus multa (take-out fee) of 100mil or maybe 150mil. she was a 20-yo slender and tall girl who oozed sex appeal. we left in a taxi and she asked the taxi to stop as she had forgotten something. i got a nice view of her climbing the steps of the back entrance into the club, her impossibly-short skirt (really just the length of a t-shirt) bouncing halfway up her tight ass with each step. wonderful!

shortly after leaving la isla we were pulled over by a pair of policeman. they were searching for guns and / or drugs, which we did not have, so after a friendly pat-down and some discussion, we were on our way. no such thing as probable cause in colombia. i suspect if they had found something we would have been asked to pay our fine directly to the arresting officer. but who knows?

the next night we went to san diego show. this is a bit more of a down-and-dirty operation. costs are lower and girl quality also lower. however, amid a sea of gorditas, i did spot a tall-and-slender gem who i had to have. on-site cost was 150mil including room for one hour, though she didn't limit the time. this girl was actually quite spectacular, body-wise, though i think she had a surgically enhanced culo. service was skillful and enthusiastic. mid-way through she even surprised me by initiating dfk. searching for individual girls in clubs like this depends so much on your tastes. so i'm not going to report her name. just go and find what you like. or not. but it's fun to check it out. added note: all the girls here could dance and strip very well. one particular girl might have the best combination of body and dance ability i've ever seen. she came on-stage after my encounter with the tall-and-slender gem, as i waited for my buddy to finish his session, so i just admired from afar. who knows, maybe i'll return to sample her bedroom skills, as well.

btw, these clubs are no-smoking. as are all enclosed restaurants and bars and clubs in colombia. smoking is allowed in exterior patio areas, of which there are many. this is a big advantage of colombia over china, the other place i go.[/quote]thank you for the report, i will have to check out la isla again soon.

just an fyi, the cops stopping you is nothing. it happens sometimes when you are in a cab. they are mostly looking for weapons or large quantities of drugs. the searches on tourists are mostly perfunctory, usually they crack jokes, ask for my i'd and let me go. if you have a small amount of drugs on you, bear in mind that is legal in colombia. if they try to shake you down, the price will likely be cheap and worth paying to avoid hassle, but i have not heard of this happening and it should not happen.

[QUOTE=Brendo1234; 1468949]Guys,

I am heading to Colombia for 12 days at the end of the month. 4 days in each Cartagena, Bogotá & Medellin. I am looking for some good reliable girls to meet in these places so could anyone PM me some contact details of chica's you would recommend or any other advice for a newbie to Colombia. I will post a report on my return, any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Sure, we believe you!

[QUOTE=Ricardo Torres; 1469337]Hey WiltTheStilt,

Still waiting for you to respond to my post on the other areas thread to back up your last post, or were you posting false information. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hi, I will have to go to that section and look, I'd be glad to help. I never post false information, so that part I can answer here.

Went to Aiffe yesterday. Decent lineup, about six girls. This place seems to have reclaimed its identity. All the girls were younger. 18-23, all but one was slim and a couple were pretty cute. I went with Sofia, nice attitude, cute smile (braces on it) and a nice slender body with perky breasts.

Great video for getting better service with working girls [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uldt6Y-CE3s[/url]

[QUOTE=Almotu; 1469331]H / R: La Cueva is inhouse party spot of the Mansion which was the parking garage I think. Basically it was created because the noise level poolside got to be too disruptive with the neighbors so at night the partying gets moved to La Cueva. If you stay at the Mansion or El Castillo, you can party at La Cueva. The good thing about that for the Mansion management is now that can make some money from alcohol with the cash bar since before guests would just bring their booze poolside.

The Liquid Lounge is a club located near Premium Plaza mall, Fase II and a bunch of other discos in Barrio Colombia. The investors are Mansion regulars and they have the business model to give mongers staying elsewhere access to the Mansion talent pool. Robert helps with the recruiting. They have a foosball table upstairs where there is a stripper pole. Esteef, one of the partners told me they just received an official stripper license from the local officials which should be interesting. They have a 10/12 foot screen with a HD projector connected to a slingbox in the US. Unfortunately, the opening NFL game didn't come through well. Its a work in progress that has great potential.

I was there in the neighbor and got to see some of the working Mansion girls which I would not have otherwise since I stayed in an apartment. Saw a bunch of guys already picked their dates for the night having a good time![/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification. Its been a while since I have been to Colombia, and I plan on going back in the next 6 months. A few other questions, if you don't mind: Is La Isla a new stripclub, because I don't remember anyone mentioning it last time I went. If you had to name the top 3 or 4 strip clubs and top 3 or 4 casas for 2013, what would they be. Don't ding aclub for price in your evaluation. Just quality, quantity of girls, and niceness of place. Last time I went it was fase dos san diego and I think Luna Lunera was the third. Its been a while. A new updated list of the top 3 or 4 strip clubs and top 3 or 4 casas would be helpful.

Thanks

[QUOTE=TweedleD; 1469381]Great video for getting better service with working girls.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uldt6Y-CE3s[/url][/QUOTE]Redd is the best!"I hope I haven't offended of you, and if I have, well, the show's almost over and ya stayed so fuck ya, ya dummy!"

Saturday night the strip joints were pretty full, wider selection than usual but nothing that grabbed my attention between F2, San Diego and the Centro spots.

Street action was DEAD. It has been pretty dead since the end of August, that last Friday was super busy but the last nine nights have been very slow. Unusual for Saturdays to be so down, tonight was very empty.

I met what one might describe as a semi pro (for me, it's a threshold matter, sex for money=pro) , a universitaria who is 24 with no kids. I had just about given up when I stumbled onto her. Nice attitude, very permissive, cool for some cheap sleazy unexpected fun.

One note is that La Manzana is CLOSED. I have a friend who worked there, she had told me that they closed for a three nights in a row but were expected to re-open. Something vague about the owner being at a finca and then some other issue. Well, I don't know if it ever reopened but my guess is no. I saw her today and she told me it closed. A cabbie confirmed this as well. The same owners have Los Gordos, which is still open for business. I don't know if it took over the Manzana schedule opening at 11ish, but at any rate no one is really there until 2 or so in the morning.

Same cabbie gave me a rec for a massage place on El Palo. Surprisingly this guy had decent taste, so maybe it's worth checking out. I will let you know, it may already be on the list but either way I will update with info on the lineup and stuff next week.

I am coming to Medellin next month. I have an over night planned for Guatape, with one of the mansion girls I do have a hotel booked already. Does anyone have any other insight on Guatape, dining, club, even outdoor bar. Just looking for some insight. Thanks in advanced.

I went there only once, and the most fun thing was a party boat that goes out in the lake for about 2 hours. It's a big boat, with like two decks, lots of fun. Tripadvisor says a restaurant "La Fogata" is good. A trip to El Penol is in order. You can take a little trip around town in one of those 3-wheeler taxis. Re a nice bar, I don't think there is one. Went there on a bus from the North terminal as I recall, not a bad trip.

Has anyone sessioned with this girl, and is she any good?

[QUOTE=Napalm;1469783]Has anyone sessioned with this girl, and is she any good?[/QUOTE]Nice waist, sweet face. Where did you find her?

Went to new life today. Pretty weak Sunday lineup. I had a cute black chick in mind as a safety pick, but some other dude grabbed her immediately. There were four legitimately fat girls there, not curvy, not busty, not trosa, but gordisimas. I picked a young one named andrea, pretty slim, said she was 18 with one kid. Horrible session, I had given her a 20K tip up front and that was all I paid. I told the jefe about her shitty attitude and service and he agreed that I should not pay a peso more than I already had. For a colombian business owner to give you something free, you know there was a legitimate gripe. Last week my friend found a METAL WIRE in her hamburger and the restaurant didn't comp it.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1468889]I understand that you are very well versed in the Philippine offerings, too. It's great that you're having a good time in the City of Eternal Spring. Only good energy from your report. It echos my observations about the girls of Medellin too. I'd love to read about the comparisons and contrasts of the Paisa and the Pinay girls, if you have time and inclination to share your observations and conclusions. Meanwhile, we're trying to keep Medellin for ourselves, so don't tell anybody. .

Only good energy, amgio[/QUOTE]Yeah, everyone here is good at keeping Medellin a secret, jaja. I don't think you need to worry about that because most mongers are too lazy to learn the lingo. If you come here w / out communication skills you will get half the Medellin experience. The language barrier is a good thing, those who learn the language are rewarded for it. I'm still a Medellin amateur but I have nerve and know how to handle women so I do well I think. As for the PI that also is a special place and we can share some info soon. Thanks for the good energy.

Almotu, As for names I shouldn't have posted them just trying to be complete. Both ladies perform at the high level I require to finish. C was primed and ready for my dick, she made some moves I was impressed w / and allowed a slippery F Fing which made JJ really happy, he got air, which is not easy for a 60 yr old. She did a superb job, BBBJ only w / face finish. Thank you god.

E was more a super session w / everything included. I want to repeat w / her.

Last night my bud and I went to La Mayorista and the talent there was pretty nice. I hooked up w / a faced beauty and that action is permanently inscribed on my brain, wish I had a pic of her.

Going to see Demi tonight. Last night at the LL she did a strip tease for the mongers there, she is quite the entertainer. She's probably bored w / just one gringo to excite, we'll see. I'll go deep w / her and maybe get to that dark zone we both enjoy, who knows.

Hope all is well w / all the bros here. Ciao

[QUOTE=Napalm;1469783]Has anyone sessioned with this girl, and is she any good?[/QUOTE]Man who ever you are would it be not better to ask friends on her friends list. Wow I recommend this girl to few friends and then it goes on ISG.

Anyways getting back to your question. I was the first gringo for this girl. As per her session. She is a sweet girl and she will treat you nice. Nothing wierd just nice sweet love.

Regards,

John.

[quote=speedstick;1469613]i am coming to medellin next month. i have an over night planned for guatape, with one of the mansion girls i do have a hotel booked already. does anyone have any other insight on guatape, dining, club, even outdoor bar. just looking for some insight. thanks in advanced.[/quote]i will tell you a little about my guatape experience. taxi ride was a little over an hour and a half. don't let the taxis rip you off. the printed rate for guatape is 150k one way or 260k round trip. it is printed inside the cab. cabs in medellin will do it for far less. i asked about 5 cabs near parque lleras and got one to do it for it for 90k. 100k will get it done easy as a few others quoted me this. get a taxi that can pick you up for the return trip also for 100k and i will explain why later. if others of you are budget minded the bus from the north bus terminal is less than 20k per person. i think it might even be 12k. cab from centro 10k to north terminal. cab from el poblado is 15-20k to north terminal.

left el poblado with my girlfriend and a friend. cab broke down about 20 minutes from guatape on the way up the hill in a town of about 10k population. payed the cab 80k and told the guy i needed the 10k for the bus. the buses there are all modified old pickup trucks with seats in the cab. they have colombian permits on the inside with posted rates to different places. i think it was 3-5k per person to guatape. if you are staying overnight utilize this bus or the three wheelers to get around. got off at the rock "la piedra". they have beer at the top and you may need a few after climbing the 800 steps. spectacular views from the rock. take a picture with your girl up there and i will bet they will be your best pictures of the trip. the restaurant has a great view at the rock also.

we took a three wheeler for 10k to guatape from the rock. arrive at guatape. a little town square and not much else. if you walk down to the docks that is where you pickup the boats. there was a large boat with two decks. it wasn't going to be leaving for a while. plenty of private boats. paid 80k for full lake ride. a city used to exist below what is now the lake. you gain some perspective on this as you get to the far end of the lake and see a piece metal with a cross which is on top of a church barely penetrating the water. guatape is very deep in some parts of the lake. when i return to the docks i am ready to return to medellin. problem is there are no taxis in this town. this is why i stated earlier to arrange for the roundtrip for 100k and get the taxis phone number and call him an hour and a half before you want to return. available taxi is in the small city about 20 minutes away. taxi is firm at 150k to north bus terminal. he won't even discuss going to el poblado. i offer 120k and tell the guy i am going to have a beer. 5 minutes later he agrees. i would have paid the 150k after my beer as i would have had no choice. he lets us off at the north bus terminal. i grab another cab for about 15k and return to el poblado.

the hotels are pretty spread apart near guatape. big open spaces with nothing in between. this is not a lake with much infrastructure. what you have at your hotel is all you have for a mile or more in either direction. not much happening at guatape.

i enjoyed my trip and am glad that i went. lake guatape is not a place to do twice imo though. this is the only touristy thing other than hang gliding in mde that i would recommend.

if you see anything that i missed at guatape feel free to post after your trip. gl.

vj

Just a comment on airport rates. Airport rate is 58k-59K, depending on company, and 2k per extra passenger. Most just ask for 60k. I recommend using cabs that have radios as they are safer in general for airport transport. I grab a cab off the curb at the airport but feel out the drivers. I look for older gentlemen or a clean cut young guy with a new car or a radio inside. Returning to the airport is easy. Just call for a cab from your hotel or apartment. Only drivers who work for companies that have radios will pick you up.

I would not discourage any of you guys from using a hotel taxi for 70k to 80k if you are a first timer. This is a difference of $5-$10. The driver will know where you are going as well as have some type of relationship with the hotel. The apartment companies can arrange for airport pickup and drop off also.

[QUOTE=John; 1469905]Man who ever you are would it be not better to ask friends on her friends list. Wow I recommend this girl to few friends and then it goes on ISG.[/QUOTE]If you have a deep talent pool of girls and you want to share some with friends it is all good. But if in your tight inner circle you have a girl who has no experience why would you recommend her to your gringo friends? If you met her online she was going to find her way to other gringos quickly if she hadn't already. You might have just sped up the process a little bit.

Today I re-learned an important lesson.

I pulled a beautiful 'Mansion girl' today for a session, though I rarely do this.

Very pretty face and even better body. I'd rate her a 9 at least, maybe her ass a 10, so I figured I'd go for it.

Anyway, she was nice, OK kisses, OK sex, the faked moans were kind of funny though.

Afterwards I set the 150K pesos next to her purse and she looked disappointed that there wasn't more.

She was dressed and gone like a hurricane, I was dazed hahaha.

I'd rate her close to a 10 in looks and her service / attitude a generous 7.

Fast forward to later in the evening.

I go to the Mayorista to help out a buddy, not expecting to do anything myself.

My buddy was with another chica and I spotted a cutie, among the sea of un-doable chicas at the Mayo.

This girl I'd rate at about a 7. Just really cute, not a beauty.

Anyway, we chat, I buy her something to drink, we head to one of the better motels around the corner.

Let me tell you, this girl just plain made love to me, like damnnnnnnnnnnn, so nice and sweet and loving.

We never talked price, we stayed together a couple hours.

When I set 100K pesos next to her purse, she asked me if that really was all for her, almost crying.

Total sweetheart. I gave her another 20K for a taxi, unsolicited.

Like I said, I'd rate her looks as a 7 and her service / attitude at a definite 10.

I learned again tonight what I already knew.

The hot 9-10 rated chicas that have been around the gringo circuit, just cannot compare to the sweet 7s who loves you like her long lost man returning home from war.

I'll take the sweet 7 anyday.

Have fun amigos

Drop down to a less than 5, then you're really living!

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1469945]Today I re-learned an important lesson.

I pulled a beautiful 'Mansion girl' today for a session, though I rarely do this.

Very pretty face and even better body. I'd rate her a 9 at least, maybe her ass a 10, so I figured I'd go for it.

Anyway, she was nice, OK kisses, OK sex, the faked moans were kind of funny though.

Afterwards I set the 150K pesos next to her purse and she looked disappointed that there wasn't more.

She was dressed and gone like a hurricane, I was dazed hahaha.

I'd rate her close to a 10 in looks and her service / attitude a generous 7.

Fast forward to later in the evening.

I go to the Mayorista to help out a buddy, not expecting to do anything myself.

My buddy was with another chica and I spotted a cutie, among the sea of un-doable chicas at the Mayo.

This girl I'd rate at about a 7. Just really cute, not a beauty...[/QUOTE]Exactamente amigo, its that quiet 7 leaning against the wall that no one pays attention to that will give you the best time. Most guys here want the 10 but usually the sex is rushed because she has more options.

With me it's the natural features. She must have pretty toes and hands, no crow feet. I don't like a lot of makeup and fake breasts. If the face is average but she has the other features she is good for me. Small breasts and petite is my type.

The main key is if she is rushing or just happy to occupy your time.

[QUOTE=HelpRules; 1469385]Thanks for the clarification. Its been a while since I have been to Colombia, and I plan on going back in the next 6 months. A few other questions, if you don't mind: Is La Isla a new stripclub, because I don't remember anyone mentioning it last time I went. If you had to name the top 3 or 4 strip clubs and top 3 or 4 casas for 2013, what would they be. Don't ding aclub for price in your evaluation. Just quality, quantity of girls, and niceness of place. Last time I went it was fase dos san diego and I think Luna Lunera was the third. Its been a while. A new updated list of the top 3 or 4 strip clubs and top 3 or 4 casas would be helpful.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I can't help you there since on this short trip I did nothing but visit Liquid to hang out with my amigos Esteef and Wild Bill. I just met up with my favoritas and did the Facebook thing (with the help of fellow mongers who did not mind pointing me in the right direction) Did not go to any strip clubs nor casas. I will probably change it up again in the Fall.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1469945]Today I re-learned an important lesson.

I pulled a beautiful 'Mansion girl' today for a session, though I rarely do this.

Very pretty face and even better body. I'd rate her a 9 at least, maybe her ass a 10, so I figured I'd go for it.

Anyway, she was nice, OK kisses, OK sex, the faked moans were kind of funny though.

Afterwards I set the 150K pesos next to her purse and she looked disappointed that there wasn't more.

She was dressed and gone like a hurricane, I was dazed hahaha.

I'd rate her close to a 10 in looks and her service / attitude a generous 7.

Fast forward to later in the evening.

I go to the Mayorista to help out a buddy, not expecting to do anything myself.

My buddy was with another chica and I spotted a cutie, among the sea of un-doable chicas at the Mayo.

This girl I'd rate at about a 7. Just really cute, not a beauty.

Anyway, we chat, I buy her something to drink, we head to one of the better motels around the corner.

Let me tell you, this girl just plain made love to me, like damnnnnnnnnnnn, so nice and sweet and loving.

We never talked price, we stayed together a couple hours.

When I set 100K pesos next to her purse, she asked me if that really was all for her, almost crying.

Total sweetheart. I gave her another 20K for a taxi, unsolicited.

Like I said, I'd rate her looks as a 7 and her service / attitude at a definite 10.

I learned again tonight what I already knew.

The hot 9-10 rated chicas that have been around the gringo circuit, just cannot compare to the sweet 7s who loves you like her long lost man returning home from war.

I'll take the sweet 7 anyday.

Have fun amigos[/QUOTE]I agree. Although I have to say I get very good to spectacular service from mansion chicas, there are quite a few guys that get no love from them and actually prefer the not so hot casa chicas. If you have the time to spend hunting for prime pussy in the mayorista it isn't a bad idea. They are just too far and between for me to bother but I understand the attraction. If I lived in Medellin I would spend a lot more time looking for unspoiled chicas.

Ricker, so sir, a body of 9 yes but a face of a 7.

A. G.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1469945]Today I re-learned an important lesson.

I pulled a beautiful 'Mansion girl' today for a session, though I rarely do this.

Very pretty face and even better body. I'd rate her a 9 at least, maybe her ass a 10, so I figured I'd go for it.

Anyway, she was nice, OK kisses, OK sex, the faked moans were kind of funny though.

Afterwards I set the 150K pesos next to her purse and she looked disappointed that there wasn't more.

She was dressed and gone like a hurricane, I was dazed hahaha.

I'd rate her close to a 10 in looks and her service / attitude a generous 7.

Fast forward to later in the evening.

I go to the Mayorista to help out a buddy, not expecting to do anything myself.

My buddy was with another chica and I spotted a cutie, among the sea of un-doable chicas at the Mayo.

This girl I'd rate at about a 7. Just really cute, not a beauty.

Anyway, we chat, I buy her something to drink, we head to one of the better motels around the corner.

Let me tell you, this girl just plain made love to me, like damnnnnnnnnnnn, so nice and sweet and loving.

We never talked price, we stayed together a couple hours.

When I set 100K pesos next to her purse, she asked me if that really was all for her, almost crying.

Total sweetheart. I gave her another 20K for a taxi, unsolicited.

Like I said, I'd rate her looks as a 7 and her service / attitude at a definite 10.

I learned again tonight what I already knew.

The hot 9-10 rated chicas that have been around the gringo circuit, just cannot compare to the sweet 7s who loves you like her long lost man returning home from war.

I'll take the sweet 7 anyday.

Have fun amigos[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg; 1470310]Ricker, so sir, a body of 9 yes but a face of a 7.

A. G.[/QUOTE]Now you're being a bit harsh mate hahaha.

Good seeing you again amigo.

See you at the World Cup!

[QUOTE=Cali Hentai;1470180]I agree. Although I have to say I get very good to spectacular service from mansion chicas, there are quite a few guys that get no love from them and actually prefer the not so hot casa chicas. If you have the time to spend hunting for prime pussy in the mayorista it isn't a bad idea. They are just too far and between for me to bother but I understand the attraction. If I lived in Medellin I would spend a lot more time looking for unspoiled chicas.[/QUOTE]Si señor, the service is most always spectacular.

That's just what it is too, service.

For true romantic though, it's still lacking that real cariño, especially for those who speak spanish reasonably well, and are accustomed to when a girl just "falls" for you.

Not knocking it, I just dig the non-gringo spoiled girl.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1470317]Si señor, the service is most always spectacular.

That's just what it is too, service.

For true romantic though, it's still lacking that real cariño, especially for those who speak spanish reasonably well, and are accustomed to when a girl just "falls" for you.

Not knocking it, I just dig the non-gringo spoiled girl.[/QUOTE]I also speak Spanish fluently, I am interested in visiting Medellin for some pretty girls, I know inside strip clubs Yocan find those elusive 9 and 10's, and if I ever need them then I know where to find them. What I am interested in is the University girls that are offering real cariño like you said, what do you recommend as far as clubs or bars for these passionate girls. I should be in Medellin Nov. 1st, and I will have lots of money. I'm not into Liquid or the Mansion etc. I'm not looking for gringo spoiled girls.

[QUOTE=FrankieBallSac;1470341]I also speak Spanish fluently, I am interested in visiting Medellin for some pretty girls, I know inside strip clubs Yocan find those elusive 9 and 10's, and if I ever need them then I know where to find them. What I am interested in is the University girls that are offering real cariño like you said, what do you recommend as far as clubs or bars for these passionate girls. I should be in Medellin Nov. 1st, and I will have lots of money. I'm not into Liquid or the Mansion etc. I'm not looking for gringo spoiled girls.[/QUOTE]Great video for getting better service with working girls [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uldt6Y-CE3s[/url]

[QUOTE=Crankdownonit; 1470564]Took a tour and found a skinny tall model type in the casa near Alfies and New Life. Just what I was looking for.

[url]www.colombiajake.info[/url]

This is not a picture site anymore than liquid lounge so it should be ok![/QUOTE]Never heard of Alfies.

But is this the same tour where Jake whisks you away on his bike and the two of you go on a magical Medellin adventure together?:

By [b]Drewby[/b] (C R T)

[i]"Jake came over on his motorcycle and picked me up. We dropped off my knapsack at his place, and then went on a tour of the centro casas.

"Monday night, Jake took me on a night tour on his bike and it was thrilling. Beautiful night, fresh air and seeing the city on the back of a bike gives you an experience that you would not get in a taxi. I felt like I was in a movie. We first started off like in a james bond movie as we winded our way up the mountain and then took an unmarked road up to the top to go see Loutron, a high end casa, I think at 220k an hour.

Jake then too me on a madmax tour of the seedier side of town as we saw the trannies, the drugged out street prostitutes, and a tent city of homeless."[/i]

Sounds romantic :-/

Do you mean Aiffe?

I like how people take the "tours" when there are dudes on every corner handing out flyers. I guess finding a place on a grid with an address can prove challenging! I am just fucking with you, glad you had a good time.

guys,

just purchased a farm an hour south of pereira with a few mates on the cali highway for a dude ranch, should be up and running by the middle of next year.
the dude ranch will be a smaller version of panaca and farm practice will be based on organic farming and green living with access to local entertainment, if you know what i mean !!!!
the farm is located 40 minutes from pereira international airport and 45 minutes from the city center.
the airport has flights to panama city and also houston.
busses run every half an hour to both cali and pereira.
we will be having airport pickup, drop off.
the farm will be not have a discriminate policy, all persons are welcome.
more information/photos as the dude ranch develops will be published.
will also be looking into the weight loss/exercise programs in association with farm activities for guests.
the farm now has 4,000 guanabana fruit trees which will be reduced for pasture and other types of fruit trees ie banana, maracuya, grapes (uva) peaches, plums, all types.
animals will include cattle, both dairy and beef, horses (chuck wagon) piggies, choookies, doggies and already on the farm is a pond holding tilapia fish.
the farm has a large organic fertilizer production facility for its fruit trees.
the large house will do for the first year before a row of stabben cabins being built.
stay tuned.

aussie greg.

LT,

Coming to the Dude Ranch?

A. G.

[QUOTE=FrankieBallSac;1470341]I also speak Spanish fluently, I am interested in visiting Medellin for some pretty girls, I know inside strip clubs Yocan find those elusive 9 and 10's, and if I ever need them then I know where to find them. What I am interested in is the University girls that are offering real cariño like you said, what do you recommend as far as clubs or bars for these passionate girls. I should be in Medellin Nov. 1st, and I will have lots of money. I'm not into Liquid or the Mansion etc. I'm not looking for gringo spoiled girls.[/QUOTE]To be honest, my best plan is no plan.

I visit Medellin, have been for years, and just go with the flow.

I think lots of guys think and go at it like this too.

I usually stay at the Castillo (Plaza 2) , which I highly recommend for anyone, either Plaza 1 or 2.

Especially for those that are new to the scene.

You meet experienced cool guys, weed out easily the occassional butt head you'll meet there and pick up valuable info and make some friendships maybe.

Also, obviously you'll meet the girls there and see who you click with.

From there, I just do my thing.

From restaurants to the stores, the gym, el Centro shopping, casas, strip clubs all over, etc, etc I just keep my eye out.

I've even met girls on the Metro.

Then of course I have old flames and new flames that I re-kindle with.

A lot of course depends on your personality, spanish ability and your looks to some degree.

You don't have to be a GQ model, however, being in OK shape and looking good and having a youthful, fun attitude go a long way.

Good luck!

Gents I went to Aiffe again this morning and was impressed once again with the selection. Three very slim waisted girls under 20 and a couple others that had different body types and were also young. I went with Sofia again. She is very pretty, skills are just OK, attitude is pretty nice. Take charge of the session a bit. Everything is covered though. I plan on trying Luna tomorrow, a very beautiful girl whom I spoke with briefly today.

More updates to come, enjoy

Boys, here is a non sex related report, although of course in the mind of the monger, everything is sex related. If you were not aware, September is Medellin Gourmet month.

You can choose from a number of restaurants, some of which are good, some of which are Tony Roma's, and they have a prix fixe (that's french for cheap fuck) sort of deal. Most are 35K for three courses, some are 55K for three courses. The restaurants seem to be more liberal with their offerings than what is presented here, most will let you have any app / entree / desert for the price, but some undoubtedly stick to what is shown here:

[url]http://medellingourmet.com/restaurantes/[/url]

The deals are good, I have gone to a couple places and it wound up being about half price relative to the menu prices. There is a nice variety also.

If you are here and would like to eat pizza that is not undercooked and overpriced (1969) , a big chain (Domino's) or an outright abortion (virtually any Colombian pizza chain) , then check out La Pizzeria. It is on Calle Argentina right above Girardot, I believe. Wood oven, thin crust, delicious toppings (I recommend panceta, eggplant or generously sliced pepperoni). There is a good pasta place near there as well, it is at Calle 54 / Carerra 45, you will see a sign that says "LO MEJOR EN PASTAS" and to its immediate right a staircase to walk up. La Pizzeria has pizzas from 20K to 26K, one size only, Lo Mejor en Pastas has entrees between 17K and 28K. Nice atmosphere and good food at both places. The service at the pasta spot is excellent.

[quote=aussie greg; 1470611]guys,

just purchased a farm an hour south of pereira with a few mates on the cali highway for a dude ranch, should be up and running by the middle of next year.

the dude ranch will be a smaller version of panaca and farm practice will be based on organic farming and green living with access to local entertainment, if you know what i mean!

the farm is located 40 minutes from pereira international airport and 45 minutes from the city center.

the airport has flights to panama city and also houston.

busses run every half an hour to both cali and pereira.

we will be having airport pickup, drop off.

the farm will be not have a discriminate policy, all persons are welcome.

more information / photos as the dude ranch develops will be published.

will also be looking into the weight loss / exercise programs in association with farm activities for guests.

the farm now has 4, 000 guanabana fruit trees which will be reduced for pasture and other types of fruit trees ie banana, maracuya, grapes (uva) peaches, plums, all types.

animals will include cattle, both dairy and beef, horses (chuck wagon) piggies, choookies, doggies and already on the farm is a pond holding tilapia fish.

the farm has a large organic fertilizer production facility for its fruit trees.

the large house will do for the first year before a row of stabben cabins being built.

stay tuned.

aussie greg.[/quote][quote=aussie greg; 1470727]lt,

coming to the dude ranch?

a. g.[/quote]actually, i think i would love to spend some time there. those of us who have been coming to medellin for years get a little jaded about the scene. i still love it but a nice tranquil finca in the country sounds very therapeutic. no doubt,"company" will be available when you want it. after all, it's still in colombia. ag, this sounds like your dream, and of course, i want to be supportive, my friend.

Expounding upon the Medellin Gourmet post, here are a couple I have tried.

I went to Tierra Fusion Pero with a friend on his way back to the UK. It is located inside La Strada, very easy to find on the first floor. Their offerings on the MG site were all wrong, they had literally one of those things on the actual menu and even it was a bit different than it was shown. I thought the place would have some authentic Peruvian fish (as they say on the menu) but everything was tilapia and, in one starter, tuna. They also had prawn dishes and octopus in one of the ceviches. Despite the odd switch, the food was decent, the jugos were very good and overall for 35K I thought it was an excellent value. Two big prawns served over polenta and veggies to start, a robust ceviche with mango and red peppers as the main course and then a couple desserts to share, including a cheesecake actually resembled a homemade cheesecake (rare in Colombia). La Strada has a bunch of options, they are all OK. I also took a date to Sushi Light, though they were not participating. Sushi is basically not a thing in Medellin, but the place is passable. The only good joints are in Bogota IMHO.

That said, I would very highly recommend the place I took a lady friend this evening. It is in Envigado, about a 13K taxi ride from the Centro. It is called Brulee. 55K was a steal here, you would pay that for the average main course and up to 85K for some. The service was excellent. Their election of cocktails, wines and even juices (Brazilian fruits!) was wide ranging. The food was both well prepared and well presented. This is a pimp place to take a date, no question. There were some stunning guests and the place was packed on a Wednesday night. If you are in MDE and looking for fine dining, I can't think of a better place.

You can see the menu offerings, they are absolutely accurate on the site. We tried and shared the salmon app (incredible, I wish they had it as a main course) , the pumpkin cheesecake one (interesting, savory and warm take on the dish) , the stuffed steak (very tender meat and a well thought-out dish) , the salmon raviolis (ravishing combination of flavors) and the two desserts (the macaroon is the one to get).

WiltTheStilt,

Just in case you have not seen it.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3118-Colombian-Food[/url]

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1470988]Gents I went to Aiffe again this morning and was impressed once again with the selection. Three very slim waisted girls under 20 and a couple others that had different body types and were also young. I went with Sofia again. She is very pretty, skills are just OK, attitude is pretty nice. Take charge of the session a bit. Everything is covered though. I plan on trying Luna tomorrow, a very beautiful girl whom I spoke with briefly today.

More updates to come, enjoy[/QUOTE]I just returned from Medellin, and I agree.

Aiffe was by far the best casa.

New Life, like Wilt posted, full of gordas.

The Colombianos were salivating, the gringos were running hahaha.

Checked out a few other casas, and really nothing.

Update on the blonde posted below (photo with her face and all LOL) , I think she is a flake of some sort for sure. Another member had difficulty contacting her and arranging anything (he can share the details if he feels so inclined) but I took a shot at contacting her anyway. We spoke on Facebook, cracked a bunch of jokes and got to know one another. I told her we should hang out Thursday, now let's get to the ugly part, the business details. We made an agreement and chatted a couple more times online, plus exchanged cell numbers.

I talked to her Wednesday but now today, Thursday, I see she has either disabled her profile or unfriended / blocked me. No answer on her cell. Seems like a lot of run around. Also strange is that she appears to be petite and the photo below says "spinner," yet she told this other member she was about 5'7" or 5'8". Too bad, she is a stunning muchacha.

John, you said you have sessioned with her. Any clarification here? Thank you

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1470988]Gents I went to Aiffe again this morning and was impressed once again with the selection. Three very slim waisted girls under 20 and a couple others that had different body types and were also young. I went with Sofia again. She is very pretty, skills are just OK, attitude is pretty nice. Take charge of the session a bit. Everything is covered though. I plan on trying Luna tomorrow, a very beautiful girl whom I spoke with briefly today.

More updates to come, enjoy[/QUOTE]Went to Aiffe yesterday around 3:30pm, based on your post, and I was pleased. I ended up selecting Luna, but I like a few others (Melissa, and someone else). My session with Luna was great. She was a sweet as can be, average face, and decent body.

In the past, and on this trip as well, I liked New Life. They tend to have 12 to 15 ladies, and I always find 4/5 to my liking. So, the odds are favorable. I was a bit concerned yesterday, since I hate walking out, but things turned out well.

One comment on the service: I usually get BBBJ and LK in exchange of a propina.

She reappeared, apologized and rescheduled. We'll see.

Nothing major to report, I did go to an OK casa but didn't partake. I don't know the name but it's on Cra 45 with CL 58, right after you cross Argentina. Upstairs place, run by some hairy Colombian dude. 4-6 girls it seemed, decent spread.

Damn what a great report! Perfectly written and spot on to the tee!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1468589]Airport:

The airport in Medellin is fairly well laid out no major hitches or extreme security checks, no visa tax or fee either coming or leaving.

Transportations:

I arranged for the Mansion to pick me up at the airport cost was around 70, 000 pesos, I looked into other options and drivers and all seemed to be charging around the same price. The drive from the airport to the Mansion was around twenty minutes give or take.

Once at the mansion I used taxis which were safe, fair and reliable, all drivers I had used their meter and cost was relatively inexpensive to get around town. The mansion will call a taxi for you and take the license plate number of the driver.

Medellin:

I stayed at the Mansion so the neighborhood and that part of the city was very nice clean upper scale and I felt perfectly safe.

The Mansion:

In my opinion the Mansion is the place to be in Medellin.

[url]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/url]

And I was very happy I stayed there. The place is clean safe quiet and comfortable, the staff was very attentive polite and ready to help. There is a great group of guys there, many of whom will be more than happy to show you around and teach you the ropes if it is your first time in Medellin.

I was a little apprehensive at first about staying at the Mansion, I've met mongers from Asia to the Caribbean, Central and South America who have stayed there and all had warned me about the owner Aussie Greg. I only met him once while I was there and he struck me as a polite quite hospitable guy. He seemed like a pretty nice guy to me.

The women usually start arriving around 2. M and would generally hang around the pool area or inside the front parlor until about 6. M when the bar at the Mansion La Cueva would open, then they would go down stairs to the La Cuava, many would hang around until midnight or 1:am. Some days seemed to have more girls than other days and some times seemed to have more girls than other times. Often there would be a dozen or so and at other times there may be just two or three. The girls to my knowledge do not work for the mansion but if need be they can call and invite some girls to come over and visit.

I personally thought the women at the mansion were super hot, In my opinion there was never at any time anything less than an 8 and most of the women I seen, were in my opinion in the 9 or 10 category, I was very, very, very, pleased with the quality of women I found at the Mansion and also the quality of service I received from the mansion girls.

The Mansion is located at the end of a dead end street on your right, it is a nice neighborhood, so don't worry about the dead end street. Leaving the Mansion and walking down to the corner and then turning right the next street you come to will be a major street and across the street you will find a nice shopping center McDonalds the Oviado (sp?) mall which has money exchanges in the mall that are easy to find and a super market, nice clean safe upper class area. You can also walk down to this area to pick up a taxi, as stated above I found the taxis to be safe inexpensive and reliable. A good land mark to use and one that I used when walking back to the mansion is look for the tall office building with dark aquarium green windows it is on the street you take to walk back up to the mansion.

I never found out why but it is not a good thing to talk about Mayorista (sp?) at the mansion. This was my first time in Medellin and I had read about Mayorista as well as the other monger location in Medellin and I was curious to check them out, but was told by some of the vets at the mansion not to mention that word around the staff at the Mansion.

I visited many of the monger locations in Medellin by taxi and found them to all be a relatively short cab ride from the mansion maybe ten to twenty minutes tops.

The Mansion chicas are friendly but not overly aggressive; it's not like Rumbas or D'Latin in Sosua or the Del Ray or Sportsman's in SJ. That is they do not overtly try to make eye contact with you and approach you. But all it will take is you going up to them and politely introducing yourself and asking if she would like to come back to your room. Within two minutes or less of introducing myself to a chica at the mansion I was on my way back to my room with her.

San Diego, Fase Dose:

Visited both of these strip clubs several times, there is a 10, 000 peso cover charge to enter. Both clubs were nice both had some HOT women in them and in my opinion the quality of women in both were about the same, however, Fase Dose charges more. These clubs were nice but pale in comparison to many of the gogo bars in Asia or even the Hong Kong Club in Tijuana. There are girls standing around or drinking with customers who are available to go to the back room with you, a girl will strip on stage but the show is nothing like you will find in Asia or even the HK in Tijuana, after she is done striping she will walk around to all of the customers for a tip and even ask if you want to go to the back room with here while another girl takes her turn on stage. The rooms at both places were not bad reminded me of the same type of rooms you will find in the thermas (sp?) in Rio. I received good service from the girls I took from there but always confirmed before taking them that BBBJ and DATY were on the menu at the agreed upon price. I also noticed some of the San Diego girls hanging out at the Mansion during the day time.

Mayorista:

Visited this street once, as stated above not a good thing to mention this place at the Mansion, it is basically two blocks or so long with girls standing on one side of the street or walking up and down the street. There are some bars and restaurants and short time hotels. I felt perfectly safe there and believe the area to be perfectly safe and was a short cab ride from the Mansion. There were some attractive women there, however, many were past the expiration date and should have retired some time ago. The short time hotels were clean safe modern and the short time price was inexpensive 20, 000 pesos for the half hour. Price for the chicas was relatively inexpensive; some must have seen me as a newbie and tried quoting me $100 USA and then came down to $50 USA but most were quoting me 30, 000 to 50, 000 pesos for the half hour. As stated there are some attractive doable women there but even at the bargain basement price I found it hard to justify going when there were nine's and tens prancing around the Mansion who didn't fuck you but made love to you.

Facebook:

I was told before going down there is no central place to pick up P4P chicas and had read some reports that said the Mansion no longer had girls coming over to hang out. All of this is not true, however, I made several Facebook dates before coming to Medellin all of which I regret. I found once I arrived at the mansion many of the Facebook dates I made were already Mansion chicas hanging around so there was really no need to set up Facebook dates with them. The ones that were not already Mansion chicas that came over were ok but did not live up to their pictures in Facebook in my opinion and with the exception of one if I had seen them at the Mansion I probably would not of chosen them. All of the Facebook dates wanted cab money as well as the fee and none of the Facebook dates would give BBBJ all gave CBJ, whereas every Mansion chica I had gave BBBJ. In retrospect I regret making the Facebook dates and on my future trips I will skip Facebook all together.

Chicas:

In my opinion the women of Medellin were hot, it seemed no matter where I was I could find women I considered to be nine's and ten's. As stated above I thought the women at the Mansion were an eight or above, I thought many of the women at San Diego and Fase Dose were hot and there were some attractive women to be had on Mayorista.

Prices:

At the Mansion the standard price is 150, 000 pesos for a couple hours or so, at San Diego strip club the girls seem to set their own price and I was quoted anywhere from 100, 000 pesos to 150, 000 pesos for the half hour. On Mayorista the general quote was anywhere from 30, 000 pesos to 50, 000 pesos for the half hour plus 20, 000 for the short time room.

Services:

Every Mansion girl gave me BBBJ DATY and DFK and all gave me great service. The San Diego girls also gave me great service. The Mayorista girl was a little more like a typical USA street walker in attitude or a Tijuana door girl in price, It required a tip for complete nudity and an additional tip for BBBJ.

Liquid Lounge:

Asked about it every night and tried going twice, The place was pretty slow every time I went practically no one there each time I went just a couple Mansion chicas hanging out. I don't wish ill on anyone but personally I would rather the place not be there. If successful the Mansion chicas will start hanging out there at night and not the La Cueva at the Mansion which means you will have to take a cab over there and then a cab back once you pick your chica, the way it is now the chicas are already at the Mansion all you have to do is go down stairs and pick the one you want and walk her back to your room.

Money:

Everything works in Columbian Pesos so you will have to exchange your money. The mansion does not exchange money but there are money exchanges at the Oviado mall just a block or so from the Mansion, an easy and safe walk. If you book the driver through the mansion you can ask him to stop and exchange money before he drops you off at the mansion.

Safety:

I felt very safe everywhere I went, the mansion and the local neighborhood is very safe, I felt safe at Mayorista, I felt safe at the strip clubs and I felt safe being transported by the Taxis. I believe for the most part provided you don't do anything stupid or are not into stupid things Mongering in Medellin is very safe.

Language:

Spanish is the official language, I don't speak Spanish but had no problem getting around and communicating. The P4P chicas all know what you are there for and it will not be hard to come to an arrangement with them. Some of the staff at the mansion speak English and many of the Mansion vets who will take you under their wing either speak Spanish or have been around enough that they will be able to assist in anything you will need.

Final Thoughts:

I was pleasantly surprised by the Mansion, Medellin and the Columbian women. I barely scratched the surface of mongering on this trip but have already booked the flight for my return visit. Three trips to Asia a trip to Rio and countless trips to POP have given me enough points for a free trip back to MDE. I was pleased with the Mansion the quality of women available there and the service provided by them. I also liked the other P4P options available in Medellin. I was disappointed in the whole Facebook hook up thing just as I was disappointed in the DIA thing when I went to Asia and will avoid this on my future trips.

Chris[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=The Tall Man; 1471814]Damn what a great report! Perfectly written and spot on to the tee!

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]So you went all the way to Colombia and can't spell Colombian? I smell a rat. Here is my response.

I speak basic Spanish and can find my own ladies in town W / o paying them directly for sex. You may have felt safe but many gringos have been robbed just down the hill from the Mansion, in the Mansion and all over the city. Many gringos have also been killed. I will supply links if you want.

The Mansion or Casa Blanca is where you want to be if and only if you can't speak the language, are too lazy to find the nice women of Medellin that have jobs and may want to have a fling with a gringo or a gringo boyfriend or you like to pay $80 for a hole that has been tenderized by some other goob down the hall for the last 180 days!

IMHO I have much more fun finding a gem that looks forward to sleeping with me that she goes to the mall and buys a new pair of sexy ropa interior for me to enjoy. Can't wait till I return and sends me a full medical so I can enjoy her with no condom.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1471429]She reappeared, apologized and rescheduled. We'll see.

Nothing major to report, I did go to an OK casa but didn't partake. I don't know the name but it's on Cra 45 with CL 58, right after you cross Argentina. Upstairs place, run by some hairy Colombian dude. 4-6 girls it seemed, decent spread.[/QUOTE]A general heads up about flaky chicas. They have lives too.

It's not like in the Philippines, Costa Rica, Dominican, and Panama; the girls have lives at home in Colombia and that makes it hard to schedule and to keep an a time table. When they're at a "working girl-town" it just work so they can stay on schedule. Here they have the kid, some loser boyfriend, family demands, schools, regular dates, traffic is a monster, and every other weekend is a freaking holiday. I'm not condoning this type of behavior but I can understand. I am in sales for both my jobs and the running around I do is mind blowing! I need my oil changed like ever other week! LOL! Trust me it's hard to keep a time table when you're at the mercy of other factors.

Street action in San Diego, Laura, an 18 year old with a pretty face and one kid, solid service and attitude. Has a tat that says LUCIANA on her back, pretty easy to spot as a young, pretty girl with dark hair and a bit taller than most. 50K full service, you can negotiate whatever with her I "imagine."

For the last 6 mo? Some have been at it 5/10 years

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1471946]A general heads up about flaky chicas. They have lives too.

It's not like in the Philippines, Costa Rica, Dominican, and Panama; the girls have lives at home in Colombia and that makes it hard to schedule and to keep an a time table. When they're at a "working girl-town" it just work so they can stay on schedule. Here they have the kid, some loser boyfriend, family demands, schools, regular dates, traffic is a monster, and every other weekend is a freaking holiday. I'm not condoning this type of behavior but I can understand. I am in sales for both my jobs and the running around I do is mind blowing! I need my oil changed like ever other week! LOL! Trust me it's hard to keep a time table when you're at the mercy of other factors.[/QUOTE]Dude, I used to live here, I know how life is. If you can't make it on time, that's expected, can't make it once, OK, but if you're consistently flaky then it doesn't matter the reason why, it's just a matter of moving on to someone more dependable.

As far as the other comment about the guy who made the report being a "rat" (you didn't make it, I know) , that seems a little harsh. I have had a lot of luck with a variety of types of girls here, but not everyone spends weeks on end or months or years here. If you're only here for a week, you want something reliable. I think people are getting a little deep into their own perspective here. Just my two cents.

[QUOTE=SkiNautique; 1471831]The Mansion or casa Blanca is where you want to be if and only if you can't speak the language, are too lazy to find the nice women of Medellin that have jobs and may want to have a fling with a gringo or a gringo boyfriend or you like to pay $80 for a hole that has been tenderized by some other goob down the hall for the last 180 days!

IMHO I have much more fun finding a gem that looks forward to sleeping with me that she goes to the mall and buys a new pair of sexy ropa interior for me to enjoy. Can't wait till I return and sends me a full medical so I can enjoy her with no condom. Thanks![/QUOTE]Seems once every month someone comes up w / a gem like this, can't wait for next month's brilliant quote. The guys has 2 post and pretty much insulting every monger here. You want us to be be like you, quite FOS, but then what would you have to write about then?

So the 8 days are over and I powered thru some great nookie and some average nookie. The mansion girls were good for the most part but there were a few "so so" nights where the talent went south. I enjoy the Mayorista a couple of nights, I like that scene quite a bit, the energy and blasting salsa, way cool. Both LM ladies I saw were gems in their own way. The strip clubs were "so so" in El Centro and later in the week hooked up w / good ole, Wilt the Stilt in Botero Plaza, had a brew and talked shop. Very nice respectful dude and lucky to have so much Medellin time.

Spent one night w / Geraldine and she was the winner of the week w / a stupendous display of nastiness that I prefer. Most of the mansion ladies are a bit scripted and predictable but if you prime them up a bit these chicas get better in la cama, some mansion ladies are all business tho and don't drink. I had quite a few great performances because it's fiesta time w / me, half the ladies are into fiesta time and that's the best action for me.

There were also some stupid chicas who either created vendettas against me (made appts w / no intention of showing so they could wreck my night or something) or outright lied to get into my habitacion. Outside I spot this huge titted chica named Nicol, wearing a dress that emphasized her tits. I took her to my room. And got into the sex only to find out she had just had surgery on her tits and "the said tits' were not to be touched and or freed from the industrial sport bra. So I had to bite the bullet and find my way thru the session w / out screaming at her. What a fucking rip-off, strutting her tits at the mansion and not warning the monger they are not on the menu this night. Total rip-off this Nicol was, I was dying to have her tits but of course I assume they are up for grabs when I get her home. So there are some underhanded chicas at the mansion and they should be barred from the gringos when they rip-off the guys.

The trip was a success except that I took Hector's advice on my return flight home. When at the end of my first day we made plans for him to pick me up at the Castile for a 6am flight to El Salvador at 4:30am. I didn't realize that his advice was wrong and that I needed to be at the airport at 4:00am. I missed my scheduled flight, lost $200 to the airlines, $100 for another night at HMP2 and the transportation cost $70, plus a free day at home before my work week starts. Not even a sorry from Hector, what a great guy. I've always used him and have always tipped him and his advice on when to be picked up has always been perfect until this trip where he cost me almost $400. He lost my business and my selling of his services, not even a sorry from him, just 70,000p.

Oh well, I would post some pics but this forum frowns on that sort of thing. Medellin has lost a little appeal for me but there are some wonderful working girls there and the HMP staff is awesome and always helpful.

[QUOTE=SkiNautique; 1471831]So you went all the way to Colombia and can't spell Colombian? I smell a rat. Here is my response.

I speak basic Spanish and can find my own ladies in town W / o paying them directly for sex. You may have felt safe but many gringos have been robbed just down the hill from the Mansion, in the Mansion and all over the city. Many gringos have also been killed. I will supply links if you want.

The Mansion or casa Blanca is where you want to be if and only if you can't speak the language, are too lazy to find the nice women of Medellin that have jobs and may want to have a fling with a gringo or a gringo boyfriend or you like to pay $80 for a hole that has been tenderized by some other goob down the hall for the last 180 days!

IMHO I have much more fun finding a gem that looks forward to sleeping with me that she goes to the mall and buys a new pair of sexy ropa interior for me to enjoy. Can't wait till I return and sends me a full medical so I can enjoy her with no condom. Thanks![/QUOTE]That's fine and dandy, but really not relevant for guys that are down there for a week or less. Not enough time to develop something with non-pros.

Really want to go to Cali & Medellin but need wingman that's experienced there, or that speaks Spanish. I'm set to go both places a couple of weeks before Christmas, but going solo so if I can't find anyone. I may have to go somewhere else like DR (where its safer). Please let me know if anyone is available or can advise me on any suggestions. Looking preferably for younger late 20s / early 30s (or older guys that can keep up LOL) if possible.

Thanks guys!

[QUOTE=Ricardo Torres;1472199]You can tell he has been around here for a while, but has multiple handles, and is using this one to antagonize.[/QUOTE]You should know Ricardo, because you are him. Why don't you trolls go to, say, the Argentina forum?

Chris, this was an excellent report! Thanks for taking the time to write it, full of good, detailed info.

However, I would like to report on my own experience with Facebook that was different from yours. I just got home tonight after spending 10 days in Medellin, with my wingman socker. This was also my 2nd trip, having been there last March for 2 weeks. The last time I was there, I found it fairly difficult to connect with the popular chicas at the cueva. Think Wendy, Yamii, Angelina , Geraldine , Tatiana, etc. Every time one of them was at the cueva, she would be surrounded by several mongers, making it difficult to approach her, for a newbie like me. I found it much easier to schedule a session with them via Facebook, and I was fairly successful, despite the flaking I experienced with some of them. They are terrible at conducting business, always late, missing appointments without bothering to contact you. Despite all that, I had fun. I just made sure to have a plan B every time I made an appointment.

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1468589]Airport:

The airport in Medellin is fairly well laid out no major hitches or extreme security checks, no visa tax or fee either coming or leaving.

Transportations:

I arranged for the Mansion to pick me up at the airport cost was around 70, 000 pesos, I looked into other options and drivers and all seemed to be charging around the same price. The drive from the airport to the Mansion was around twenty minutes give or take.

Once at the mansion I used taxis which were safe, fair and reliable, all drivers I had used their meter and cost was relatively inexpensive to get around town. The mansion will call a taxi for you and take the license plate number of the driver.

Medellin:

I stayed at the Mansion so the neighborhood and that part of the city was very nice clean upper scale and I felt perfectly safe.

The Mansion:

In my opinion the Mansion is the place to be in Medellin.

[url]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/url]

And I was very happy I stayed there. The place is clean safe quiet and comfortable, the staff was very attentive polite and ready to help. There is a great group of guys there, many of whom will be more than happy to show you around and teach you the ropes if it is your first time in Medellin.

I was a little apprehensive at first about staying at the Mansion, I've met mongers from Asia to the Caribbean, Central and South America who have stayed there and all had warned me about the owner Aussie Greg. I only met him once while I was there and he struck me as a polite quite hospitable guy. He seemed like a pretty nice guy to me.

The women usually start arriving around 2. M and would generally hang around the pool area or inside the front parlor until about 6. M when the bar at the Mansion La Cueva would open, then they would go down stairs to the La Cuava, many would hang around until midnight or 1:am. Some days seemed to have more girls than other days and some times seemed to have more girls than other times. Often there would be a dozen or so and at other times there may be just two or three. The girls to my knowledge do not work for the mansion but if need be they can call and invite some girls to come over and visit.

I personally thought the women at the mansion were super hot, In my opinion there was never at any time anything less than an 8 and most of the women I seen, were in my opinion in the 9 or 10 category, I was very, very, very, pleased with the quality of women I found at the Mansion and also the quality of service I received from the mansion girls.

The Mansion is located at the end of a dead end street on your right, it is a nice neighborhood, so don't worry about the dead end street. Leaving the Mansion and walking down to the corner and then turning right the next street you come to will be a major street and across the street you will find a nice shopping center McDonalds the Oviado (sp?) mall which has money exchanges in the mall that are easy to find and a super market, nice clean safe upper class area. You can also walk down to this area to pick up a taxi, as stated above I found the taxis to be safe inexpensive and reliable. A good land mark to use and one that I used when walking back to the mansion is look for the tall office building with dark aquarium green windows it is on the street you take to walk back up to the mansion.

I never found out why but it is not a good thing to talk about Mayorista (sp?) at the mansion. This was my first time in Medellin and I had read about Mayorista as well as the other monger location in Medellin and I was curious to check them out, but was told by some of the vets at the mansion not to mention that word around the staff at the Mansion.

I visited many of the monger locations in Medellin by taxi and found them to all be a relatively short cab ride from the mansion maybe ten to twenty minutes tops.

The Mansion chicas are friendly but not overly aggressive; it's not like Rumbas or D'Latin in Sosua or the Del Ray or Sportsman's in SJ. That is they do not overtly try to make eye contact with you and approach you. But all it will take is you going up to them and politely introducing yourself and asking if she would like to come back to your room. Within two minutes or less of introducing myself to a chica at the mansion I was on my way back to my room with her.

San Diego, Fase Dose:

Visited both of these strip clubs several times, there is a 10, 000 peso cover charge to enter. Both clubs were nice both had some HOT women in them and in my opinion the quality of women in both were about the same, however, Fase Dose charges more. These clubs were nice but pale in comparison to many of the gogo bars in Asia or even the Hong Kong Club in Tijuana. There are girls standing around or drinking with customers who are available to go to the back room with you, a girl will strip on stage but the show is nothing like you will find in Asia or even the HK in Tijuana, after she is done striping she will walk around to all of the customers for a tip and even ask if you want to go to the back room with here while another girl takes her turn on stage. The rooms at both places were not bad reminded me of the same type of rooms you will find in the thermas (sp?) in Rio. I received good service from the girls I took from there but always confirmed before taking them that BBBJ and DATY were on the menu at the agreed upon price. I also noticed some of the San Diego girls hanging out at the Mansion during the day time.

Mayorista:

Visited this street once, as stated above not a good thing to mention this place at the Mansion, it is basically two blocks or so long with girls standing on one side of the street or walking up and down the street. There are some bars and restaurants and short time hotels. I felt perfectly safe there and believe the area to be perfectly safe and was a short cab ride from the Mansion. There were some attractive women there, however, many were past the expiration date and should have retired some time ago. The short time hotels were clean safe modern and the short time price was inexpensive 20, 000 pesos for the half hour. Price for the chicas was relatively inexpensive; some must have seen me as a newbie and tried quoting me $100 USA and then came down to $50 USA but most were quoting me 30, 000 to 50, 000 pesos for the half hour. As stated there are some attractive doable women there but even at the bargain basement price I found it hard to justify going when there were nine's and tens prancing around the Mansion who didn't fuck you but made love to you.

Facebook:

I was told before going down there is no central place to pick up P4P chicas and had read some reports that said the Mansion no longer had girls coming over to hang out. All of this is not true, however, I made several Facebook dates before coming to Medellin all of which I regret. I found once I arrived at the mansion many of the Facebook dates I made were already Mansion chicas hanging around so there was really no need to set up Facebook dates with them. The ones that were not already Mansion chicas that came over were ok but did not live up to their pictures in Facebook in my opinion and with the exception of one if I had seen them at the Mansion I probably would not of chosen them. All of the Facebook dates wanted cab money as well as the fee and none of the Facebook dates would give BBBJ all gave CBJ, whereas every Mansion chica I had gave BBBJ. In retrospect I regret making the Facebook dates and on my future trips I will skip Facebook all together.

Chicas:

In my opinion the women of Medellin were hot, it seemed no matter where I was I could find women I considered to be nine's and ten's. As stated above I thought the women at the Mansion were an eight or above, I thought many of the women at San Diego and Fase Dose were hot and there were some attractive women to be had on Mayorista.

Prices:

At the Mansion the standard price is 150, 000 pesos for a couple hours or so, at San Diego strip club the girls seem to set their own price and I was quoted anywhere from 100, 000 pesos to 150, 000 pesos for the half hour. On Mayorista the general quote was anywhere from 30, 000 pesos to 50, 000 pesos for the half hour plus 20, 000 for the short time room.

Services:

Every Mansion girl gave me BBBJ DATY and DFK and all gave me great service. The San Diego girls also gave me great service. The Mayorista girl was a little more like a typical USA street walker in attitude or a Tijuana door girl in price, It required a tip for complete nudity and an additional tip for BBBJ.

Liquid Lounge:

Asked about it every night and tried going twice, The place was pretty slow every time I went practically no one there each time I went just a couple Mansion chicas hanging out. I don't wish ill on anyone but personally I would rather the place not be there. If successful the Mansion chicas will start hanging out there at night and not the La Cueva at the Mansion which means you will have to take a cab over there and then a cab back once you pick your chica, the way it is now the chicas are already at the Mansion all you have to do is go down stairs and pick the one you want and walk her back to your room.

Money:

Everything works in Columbian Pesos so you will have to exchange your money. The mansion does not exchange money but there are money exchanges at the Oviado mall just a block or so from the Mansion, an easy and safe walk. If you book the driver through the mansion you can ask him to stop and exchange money before he drops you off at the mansion.

Safety:

I felt very safe everywhere I went, the mansion and the local neighborhood is very safe, I felt safe at Mayorista, I felt safe at the strip clubs and I felt safe being transported by the Taxis. I believe for the most part provided you don't do anything stupid or are not into stupid things Mongering in Medellin is very safe.

Language:

Spanish is the official language, I don't speak Spanish but had no problem getting around and communicating. The P4P chicas all know what you are there for and it will not be hard to come to an arrangement with them. Some of the staff at the mansion speak English and many of the Mansion vets who will take you under their wing either speak Spanish or have been around enough that they will be able to assist in anything you will need.

Final Thoughts:

I was pleasantly surprised by the Mansion, Medellin and the Columbian women. I barely scratched the surface of mongering on this trip but have already booked the flight for my return visit. Three trips to Asia a trip to Rio and countless trips to POP have given me enough points for a free trip back to MDE. I was pleased with the Mansion the quality of women available there and the service provided by them. I also liked the other P4P options available in Medellin. I was disappointed in the whole Facebook hook up thing just as I was disappointed in the DIA thing when I went to Asia and will avoid this on my future trips.

Chris[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1471946]A general heads up about flaky chicas. They have lives too.

It's not like in the Philippines, Costa Rica, Dominican, and Panama; the girls have lives at home in Colombia and that makes it hard to schedule and to keep an a time table. When they're at a "working girl-town" it just work so they can stay on schedule. Here they have the kid, some loser boyfriend, family demands, schools, regular dates, traffic is a monster, and every other weekend is a freaking holiday.[/QUOTE]Your point about the traveling girls being organized I agree with but the local girls having lives as an excuse I don't. Imagine you had to be somewhere at a certain time and needed a babysitter. You would get it done without regularly being late. The girls who work regular jobs are always on time. Working girls just prioritize meeting a foreigner differently. If you look at the lives of these girls it is filled with disfunction. It is almost like dealing with children sometimes.

[QUOTE=Socker; 1472158]The trip was a success except that I took Hector's advice on my return flight home. When at the end of my first day we made plans for him to pick me up at the Castile for a 6am flight to El Salvador at 4:30am. I didn't realize that his advice was wrong and that I needed to be at the airport at 4:00am. I missed my scheduled flight, lost $200 to the airlines, $100 for another night at HMP2 and the transportation cost $70, plus a free day at home before my work week starts. Not even a sorry from Hector, what a great guy. I've always used him and have always tipped him and his advice on when to be picked up has always been perfect until this trip where he cost me almost $400. He lost my business and my selling of his services, not even a sorry from him, just 70, 000p.[/QUOTE]I hear ya Socker, however, the whole Hector thing must have been a misunderstanding between you two.

It seems like he believed you were taking a domestic flight maybe, and still you may have been running a bit late.

Honestly though, we're big boys here.

World traveling girly chasers.

To think you could leave the Castillo at 0430, for about a 30-40 minute ride to the airport, and be OK for an international flight at 0600 is just naive really.

Some thinking is required.

Don't mean to knock you, but Hector is and has been a great guy ever since I've known him, for many years now.

It had to be a misunderstanding and especially if making that flight was that critical, perhaps the light bulb should have popped on in your cabeza too.

Good luck amigo.

Trip advice on how to extend your dollar.

Airport: A taxi to Poblado will cost you $56K, but you can always take a shared bus which runs every 30 min from

Airport to Santa Fe area and take a cab back to your Apt, you can just pay $5K for bus and $5K for the cab and save $46K.

Do not change your money at the airport if you can, just change the bare min needed to get home.

Buy duty fee liquor at the airport, liquor can be expensive in the stores.

Money Exchange: Cash is the king, gring cash if you can, you will not get a good rate from the ATM, usally you can get a 10 to 20 peso difference for every dollar.

For 1000 dollars you end up saving 20K. Best place to change is in Lleras near calle 10 & carrera 38, they usually are 10 peso higher than Oviado or Santa fe.

Always check the daily rate [url]http://www.unicambios.com.co/home.html[/url]

Safety: It is not worth loosing stuff, always put your stuff in a locker, it is very easy to loose stuff and money in Medellin. Girls can mix drugs in your drink and you en.

End up gettign kocked out. Always put your stuff away, carry bare min cash and a cheap phone. Never walk alone at night, walk only in high traffic areas.

Timing: Avoid peak times such as July 4th, Labor day, Halloween, Thanks giving etc, one you end up paying higher airline fare, second the hotels and apartments also will be expensive.

You also are competing with other gringos for the girls. If you go during non peak days, you pay less for hotels, air and you get quality girls for less.

The Jan to March and Sep to First week of Nov are the cheapest months to travel.

Place: Stay close to metro or any place close to a main streat or close to lleras. You end up paying less for the cabs, paying for cabs can really pinch your wallet, some.

Of the girls will come from Bello, Copacabna, Robledo etc and the taxi can cost 25K, ask the girls to take the metro and then catch a cab back to your place.

Shop around for the best apartment, craigs list has a lot of apartment postings.

Girls: Typical pro will charge you 150K for 2 to 3 hours, Fase II girls are $180K for 1 hour, Mansion / Liquid girls are $150K, El centro MPs are about $70K for one hour. The quality of the girls at

Fase II and Energy has been very good. I try to balance between pro and non pros. I guess we need both.

The cheapest way is to go for non pros and semi pros, if you get lucky you can just pay $50K for entire night, or just pay for the taxi and a small gift. If you are decent looking and speak some Spanish you can score with local regular girls.

Find some good dating sites such as [url]http://www.Romancelatina.com[/url] And cupid, amorlatina usually they run free promotions, google for free promo codes and get as many contacts as you can, the girls in Medellin can be really busy, with school, work, night life etc, expect to make face to face contact with only 10% of contacts you have. FB is good, but.

Is limited in search capablities and it takes time to develop and add new friends, it is better to start with dating site where you can slice and dice get fast contacts

And then develop the relations on FB. They are both free and can be complimentary.

Also look for free party invitations on the web.

What to bring: Buy duty free liquor, bring cheap perfumes and gifts from US, they will come very handy. Just look for sales in CVS, WalMart etc, buy cheap $5 perfumes as gifts.

Girls will love it and give you hugs and kisses for free.

Attached are photos of some regular girls I met during my trip and I only paid for the taxi and some gifts.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1472407]I hear ya Socker, however, the whole Hector thing must have been a misunderstanding between you two.

It seems like he believed you were taking a domestic flight maybe, and still you may have been running a bit late.

Honestly though, we're big boys here.

World traveling girly chasers.

To think you could leave the Castillo at 0430, for about a 30-40 minute ride to the airport, and be OK for an international flight at 0600 is just naive really.

Some thinking is required.

Don't mean to knock you, but Hector is and has been a great guy ever since I've known him, for many years now.

It had to be a misunderstanding and especially if making that flight was that critical, perhaps the light bulb should have popped on in your cabeza too.

Good luck amigo.[/QUOTE]You are correct I have the final say so in the end it is my fault for taking bad advice after a full day of traveling. I accepted his bad advice while I was tired and it bit me, you are correct, my mistake. But w / Hector there is very little friendliness, it's all business. I have used him 5 times and every time except one he's been accurate, and he doesn't admit his mistake this time. That's not my style, if I accidentally screw somebody I am very contrite about it and would offer some consolation, so that's what I don't like about the mistake. It's water under the bridge now and I will try to use other transportation in the future. I like kind understanding people who can admit a mistake, he's a bit of a machine. I appreciate your opinion, thanks. Sitting here in my apt in SF I am totally lost, jaja, I need time to adjust.

[QUOTE=Socker; 1472158]So the 8 days are over and I powered thru some great nookie and some average nookie.

There were also some stupid chicas who either created vendettas against me (made appts w / no intention of showing so they could wreck my night or something) or outright lied to get into my habitacion. Outside I spot this huge titted chica named Nicol, wearing a dress that emphasized her tits. I took her to my room. And got into the sex only to find out she had just had surgery on her tits and "the said tits' were not to be touched and or freed from the industrial sport bra. So I had to bite the bullet and find my way thru the session w / out screaming at her. What a fucking rip-off, strutting her tits at the mansion and not warning the monger they are not on the menu this night. Total rip-off this Nicol was, I was dying to have her tits but of course I assume they are up for grabs when I get her home. So there are some underhanded chicas at the mansion and they should be barred from the gringos when they rip-off the guys.

The trip was a success except that I took Hector's advice on my return flight home. When at the end of my first day we made plans for him to pick me up at the Castile for a 6am flight to El Salvador at 4:30am. I didn't realize that his advice was wrong and that I needed to be at the airport at 4:00am. I missed my scheduled flight, lost $200 to the airlines, $100 for another night at HMP2 and the transportation cost $70, plus a free day at home before my work week starts. Not even a sorry from Hector, what a great guy. I've always used him and have always tipped him and his advice on when to be picked up has always been perfect until this trip where he cost me almost $400. He lost my business and my selling of his services, not even a sorry from him, just 70, 000p.

Oh well, I would post some pics but this forum frowns on that sort of thing. Medellin has lost a little appeal for me. .[/QUOTE]I don't understand why anyone would chose to react in such an unproductive way. We can't control what situations we find ourselves facing, but we do chose our reactions. Nicoi was not prepared for sex work. A gentle statement to her that she would have to go, with offer of a few pesos for transportation would have resolved the problem, with no drama. As far as Hector is concerned, Hector shows up when he's told. It's our responsibility to to decide when we leave to go to the airport. Now, if a driver didn't show up on time, that's a different issue. We should take responsibility for those choices that our ultimately ours.

I'm sorry that Medellin and the girls there have lost some appeal for you. With all kindness, I suggest that if you return with a mindset that these girls are not just "nookie" the bloom will be back on the rose. You'll have a better time, and a much better memory.

Only good energy, remember that, por favor.

This obviously had to be your first international flight, so I presume you arrived either by boat or slogged it across the darien gap, I would be interested to hear about your trip to Colombia.

Believe it or not, it is easy to find good looking women in Medellin and tough to find men to hang out.

I am coming alone, renting an apartment close to Parque LLeras. My girlfriend has lot of friends and she always asking me to introduce my friends to her friends.

Unfortunately I do not have any friends in Medellin as I fly solo most of the time.

If anyone would like to party, hangout and meet cute girls please I'm me, I will be in Medellin from Oct 28th to Nov 1st.

There is not charge all the drinks are on me.

I appreciate if you can send me an I'm, please send me your local phone and email.

So my first experience of Medellin was mid August. WOW was it complete opposite of Barranquilla as basically everyone told me it would be. I love this place. Was not hot as Quilla and the women, WOW. Que Bonitas. I met my girl and we stayed in El Poblado. Very nice area and it was only a block or two to Sante Fe mall. That mall was amazing. Went to the movies and even though it was in Spanish it was still enjoyable. I'm still young hearted so I also enjoyed the arcade next to it.

I never got a chance to really explore much of the casas or massage parlors. I was only in Medellin for 3 days and it wasnt long enough. I already bought my ticket to return in January. This time I'm there for 10 days. I'm saving money by staying with my girl in her place so I should have the ability to party a little more. Though of you that want to go and explore along with your sexcapades, the metrocable was fun. Took it up the mountain to visit my girls family. Awesome views.

Now, how the heck do I find all these facebook chicas you are all discussing? It would be nice to network a little prior to my visit. I found one that was mentioned on here but her friend list is too full to add others and she never reads her emails. Looks pretty damn hot though. Besides her, not sure how to search for others and if it is worth trying to communicate prior to my next trip.

Love the site, love the stories, and hoping my next trip gives me some stories and info of my own to share. I didn't see many older gringos anywhere I was. I kinda stood out. I'm a 36 yro white american that speaks Spanish and I thought I would see more my age or older but none.

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1468589]Airport:

In my opinion the Mansion is the place to be in Medellin.

[url]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/url]

And I was very happy I stayed there. The place is clean safe quiet and comfortable, the staff was very attentive polite and ready to help. There is a great group of guys there, many of whom will be more than happy to show you around and teach you the ropes if it is your first time in Medellin.

I was a little apprehensive at first about staying at the Mansion, I've met mongers from Asia to the Caribbean, Central and South America who have stayed there and all had warned me about the owner Aussie Greg. I only met him once while I was there and he struck me as a polite quite hospitable guy. He seemed like a pretty nice guy to me.

The women usually start arriving around 2. M and would generally hang around the pool area or inside the front parlor until about 6. M when the bar at the Mansion La Cueva would open, then they would go down stairs to the La Cuava, many would hang around until midnight or 1:am. Some days seemed to have more girls than other days and some times seemed to have more girls than other times. Often there would be a dozen or so and at other times there may be just two or three. The girls to my knowledge do not work for the mansion but if need be they can call and invite some girls to come over and visit.

I personally thought the women at the mansion were super hot, In my opinion there was never at any time anything less than an 8 and most of the women I seen, were in my opinion in the 9 or 10 category, I was very, very, very, pleased with the quality of women I found at the Mansion and also the quality of service I received from the mansion girls.

The Mansion chicas are friendly but not overly aggressive; it's not like Rumbas or D'Latin in Sosua or the Del Ray or Sportsman's in SJ. That is they do not overtly try to make eye contact with you and approach you. But all it will take is you going up to them and politely introducing yourself and asking if she would like to come back to your room. Within two minutes or less of introducing myself to a chica at the mansion I was on my way back to my room with her...[/QUOTE]Thanks Chris this a great report and helps with newbs like me. My mongering experience is limited to DR (and Cuba) , and this time around.

I was looking between CR and Colombia, Colombia now the front runner!

I prefer GFE rather than a quick in and out and it seems the Medellin girls at the Hotel Medellin (Mansion) are the best for this.

Few questions, hoping anyone can help.

1. How similar is the mansion to say blackbeards in DR; are the chicas more freelancers or there is a mamasan you can talk to if any issues? How late until are the Chicas there? I like the idea of taking a girl in the room jacuzzi as I did in the outdoor jacuzzi in DR.

2. I prefer slender and tall girls to the more 'gordita' type, but from my research it appears Colombian girls are more the gordita-type, big ass / breasts. Can I find a good mix of girls or slender / tall available (and is this what you mean by 9/10?) but I really need to search? How much for TLN with mansion girls and can you Shots on goal as many times as you want? At blackbeards in DR, twice was the rule with TLN (though I found a few were fine with more, given a propina)

3. This Mayorista place, could it compare with D'Latin and Rumba in that it's the same style of freelancers for pickup? Can I bring them back to the mansion? I know this last question is strange, bringing back girls to a place with more girls. But I found in DR I could work multi-day deals with ones I 'clicked' with, $140 for two nights with a real DR J-Lo look-alike 9 hottie, etc.

4. How was the food at the Mansion and in Colombia in general? The food at Blackbeards was quite good, significant drop in quality everywhere else in the DR. Yes I am there for girls but let's face it, a nice steak after a fuckathon hits the spot!

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1472407]I hear ya Socker, however, the whole Hector thing must have been a misunderstanding between you two.

It seems like he believed you were taking a domestic flight maybe, and still you may have been running a bit late.

Honestly though, we're big boys here.

World traveling girly chasers.

To think you could leave the Castillo at 0430, for about a 30-40 minute ride to the airport, and be OK for an international flight at 0600 is just naive really.

Some thinking is required.

Don't mean to knock you, but Hector is and has been a great guy ever since I've known him, for many years now.

It had to be a misunderstanding and especially if making that flight was that critical, perhaps the light bulb should have popped on in your cabeza too.

Good luck amigo.[/QUOTE]I don't post here often (if at all) , but I have been to Medellin many times in the last 2 years and have used the Mansion's transportation services each time. With respect to Hector, it must have been a misunderstanding, he is one of the most trustworthy people I have met in Medellin. I don't know what happened in this situation, but my guess it was a misunderstanding.

I've been to all the places you mentioned, so let me give my opinion. I'm guessing by the places that you mention that you haven't done your Spanish homework, thats why you talk about point and click places LOL. The mansion and Black beards are structured for guys that want the easiest route and who usually don't speak Spanish.

I see you also want GFE. I guess at point and click places that means cuddling after sex and a steak dinner. Its good that you understand that point and click places usually offer over night GFE, then she is on to the next guy. I have seen guys fall in love and marry Black beards chicas only to be single in Black beards 2 years later, heart broken.

Mayorista is nothing like D'Latins. Mayorista is seedy and grimy, sort of like its own world. But there is pussy there, just wasn't my spot and they are freelancers. D'Latins is a little better but the tricks are now fucking on an hourly basis. GFE can be had there but luckily I have spots in Puerto Plata and Santo Domingo. The mansion will suit your needs because the girls are sweet. Cuba was the spot for a real GFE but spanish is a must. Take Costa Rica off your list.

Didn't see many fat girls in Colombia, don't know where you got that from. In fact I thought Colombia had the most beautiful women in the world, but now I'm hooked on the Cubanas natural beauty.

Here is a little advice; Get your own place away from the "sex resorts" and branch out and pick your own girls, instead of being offered a limited lineup where you share girls with the boys. But first do your Spanish homework bro.

Good luck.

TravelGuy99:

Don't worry about any gorditas with big asses and tits. You will be in skinny-bytch heaven at the mansion. That's mostly what the owners there like and invite over, which is why I haven't been back.

A lot of the questions you are asking have been answered a million times already. Just read some of the recent reports and go back to posts between the 2011-2012 time frame.

I have been to the DR 6 time and trust me when I tell you there is very little comparison; like apples to oranges. You are talking about D'Latins which is in Sosua, and Medellin is nothing like Sosua.

BUT: Liquid Lounge would be very similar to D'Latins. But as you can see from the few reports about the place it still has not gotten off the ground just yet. Most guys go there and just end up leaving and walking over to Fase Dos (a strip club).

(The last Newsletter Liquid Lounge send out was muy caliente though :)

Also, you probably do not want to be bringing any chica you met in Mayorista back to your hotel room. Use the short-term love motels in that area. Last thing you want is for her to relay to her "handlers" how rich you are (laptop, smartphone where you are staying, etc.).

A recent Friday night in Medellin I decided to check out Liquid Lounge, Calle 26A, #43F-72 about 10 pm and was the only customer. There were about four girls, none especially great looking. One of them quoted me 150, 000 Colombian pesos for one hour at my hotel. She said there are no private rooms at Liquid Lounge, so it is apparently solely a "take-out" sort of place. If Liquid Lounge usually has so few customers I won't be surprised if Liquid Lounge isn't around a year or two from now.

I continued on to Fase II. It was now well after 10 pm. I looked around a few times and counted the number of women, counting as many as 26. Again I found none tempting.

A taxi driver took me to Luna Lunera on Avenida 33 where there were probably twice as many women as Fase II, but none looked good to me, probably in part because I like thinner women than all but one I saw, and that one wasn't otherwise attractive.

I walked across Avenida 33 to 64-198 Avenida 33, which was (past tense) the location of Abydos. I thought it might be worth a look because it was one of only two places I've found a sufficiently attractive woman in such places in Medellin in the past. It appeared to be closed. A man on the sidewalk, seeing me checking the place out, told me Abydos has closed. A Google Advanced Search for Abydos limited to internationalsexguide (dot) info yielded no reports about the closing of Abydos. Can anybody report whether it is closed temporarily or permanently or if it only moved to a different location?

There are pretty women in Medellin, Colombia, but in my experience you seldom will find one offering herself for an hour for a price. On the other hand, if you like moderately chubby girl-next-door types, you'll save a lot of money in Medellin compared to lots of other parts of the world, but then if you are satisfied with such women, you probably don't need to be paying for sex in the first place.

[QUOTE=Razor77;1472526]Love the site, love the stories, and hoping my next trip gives me some stories and info of my own to share. I didn't see many older gringos anywhere I was. I kinda stood out. I'm a 36 yro white american that speaks Spanish and I thought I would see more my age or older but none.[/QUOTE]Next time you go take a trip up and down Calle 10 and also check out Parque Lleras. They won't be hard to spot in their shorts and flip flops.

I saw a lot of young people there last month. On my way to lunch on Sunday I got stopped by two young cute American chicks (they asked me if I spoke English, but they could tell my ass was American too, LOL). Her husband had moved down there to teach English.

And what were these two cuties stopping me for? They were passing out pamphlets about giving your life to Christ :-/

[QUOTE=Param Ahmad; 1472620]A recent Friday night in Medellin I decided to check out Liquid Lounge, Calle 26A, #43F-72 about 10 pm and was the only customer. There were about four girls, none especially great looking. One of them quoted me 150, 000 Colombian pesos for one hour at my hotel. She said there are no private rooms at Liquid Lounge, so it is apparently solely a "take-out" sort of place. If Liquid Lounge usually has so few customers I won't be surprised if Liquid Lounge isn't around a year or two from now.

I continued on to Fase II. It was now well after 10 pm. I looked around a few times and counted the number of women, counting as many as 26. Again I found none tempting.

A taxi driver took me to Luna Lunera on Avenida 33 where there were probably twice as many women as Fase II, but none looked good to me, probably in part because I like thinner women than all but one I saw, and that one wasn't otherwise attractive...[/QUOTE]I agree with you Param about not finding too many attractive girls at Fase II. I was there not too long ago, and found that most of the girls.

Were average looking, some had decent bodies, due to their implants. Many looked like they had hight mileage. I found that the places in Bogota such as Lalos, Casanovas, had a much better looking assortment of women than any place in Medellin. Although, I cannot speak for the Medellin Mansion. Will have to check that out.

Also, when you say "you seldom will find one offering herself for an hour for a price", I don't quite understand what you are referring to.

Because Fase II definitely is only short time. 1 hr with the girls. Can you or someone else please elaborate on this?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Param Ahmad;1472620]There are pretty women in Medellin, Colombia, but in my experience you seldom will find one offering herself for an hour for a price. On the other hand, if you like moderately chubby girl-next-door types, you'll save a lot of money in Medellin compared to lots of other parts of the world, but then if you are satisfied with such women, you probably don't need to be paying for sex in the first place.[/QUOTE]I just got back from a 14-day mongering trip in Medellin, and I found plenty of pretty women, offering themselves for a price of 150K pesos, at the Mansion or through FB. These women were not chubby at all, but rather slim. Of course, it is possible that what I consider pretty may not appeal to you.

[QUOTE=Param Ahmad;1472620]I walked across Avenida 33 to 64-198 Avenida 33, which was (past tense) the location of Abydos. I thought it might be worth a look because it was one of only two places I've found a sufficiently attractive woman in such places in Medellin in the past. It appeared to be closed. A man on the sidewalk, seeing me checking the place out, told me Abydos has closed. A Google Advanced Search for Abydos limited to internationalsexguide (dot) info yielded no reports about the closing of Abydos. Can anybody report whether it is closed temporarily or permanently or if it only moved to a different location?[/QUOTE]Abydos is a daytime casa.

Try it again during daylight hours and I'm sure it will be operating as normal.

[quote=param ahmad; 1472620]a recent friday night in medellin i decided to check out liquid lounge, calle 26a, #43f-72 about 10 pm and was the only customer. there were about four girls, none especially great looking. one of them quoted me 150, 000 colombian pesos for one hour at my hotel. she said there are no private rooms at liquid lounge, so it is apparently solely a "take-out" sort of place. if liquid lounge usually has so few customers i won't be surprised if liquid lounge isn't around a year or two from now.

i continued on to fase ii. it was now well after 10 pm. i looked around a few times and counted the number of women, counting as many as 26. again i found none tempting.

a taxi driver took me to luna lunera on avenida 33 where there were probably twice as many women as fase ii, but none looked good to me, probably in part because i like thinner women than all but one i saw, and that one wasn't otherwise attractive.

i walked across avenida 33 to 64-198 avenida 33, which was (past tense) the location of abydos. i thought it might be worth a look because it was one of only two places i've found a sufficiently attractive woman in such places in medellin in the past. it appeared to be closed. a man on the sidewalk, seeing me checking the place out, told me abydos has closed. a google advanced search for abydos limited to internationalsexguide (dot) info yielded no reports about the closing of abydos. can anybody report whether it is closed temporarily or permanently or if it only moved to a different location?

there are pretty women in medellin, colombia, but in my experience you seldom will find one offering herself for an hour for a price. on the other hand, if you like moderately chubby girl-next-door types, you'll save a lot of money in medellin compared to lots of other parts of the world, but then if you are satisfied with such women, you probably don't need to be paying for sex in the first place.[/quote]dude, you are just scraping the surface. to say there are a bunch of chubby girl next door types available in mde is insanity. but please, leave more for the rest of us.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1472621]Next time you go take a trip up and down Calle 10 and also check out Parque Lleras. They won't be hard to spot in their shorts and flip flops.

I saw a lot of young people there last month. On my way to lunch on Sunday I got stopped by two young cute American chicks (they asked me if I spoke English, but they could tell my ass was American too, LOL). Her husband had moved down there to teach English.

And what were these two cuties stopping me for? They were passing out pamphlets about giving your life to Christ :/[/QUOTE]When I went to that new spot in lleras (same owners as bar maracaibo) , the cabbie said there were street walkers in that area. I found it somewhat difficult to believe, at least not as a set track.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1472490]I don't understand why anyone would chose to react in such an unproductive way. We can't control what situations we find ourselves facing, but we do chose our reactions. Nicoi was not prepared for sex work. A gentle statement to her that she would have to go, with offer of a few pesos for transportation would have resolved the problem, with no drama. As far as Hector is concerned, Hector shows up when he's told. It's our responsibility to to decide when we leave to go to the airport. Now, if a driver didn't show up on time, that's a different issue. We should take responsibility for those choices that our ultimately ours.

I'm sorry that Medellin and the girls there have lost some appeal for you. With all kindness, I suggest that if you return with a mindset that these girls are not just "nookie" the bloom will be back on the rose. You'll have a better time, and a much better memory.

Only good energy, remember that, por favor.[/QUOTE]I gave a TR w / everything of import to the next guy, Mansion action, El Centro strip clubs, La Mayorista, etc. The bait and switch by Nocole was just plain uncool. We were both in the bed (mostly undressed) when she explained that I couldn't see or touch her most prominent assets (the ones I paid for). The assets she used deceitfully to entice me. Your saying I'm being unreasonable? She's a rip off, plain and simple and I was kind enough not to kick her out of my room. The sex w / her mouth was okay at best, she was a phony, plain and simple Bro! In this regard I did nothing wrong, I'm good w / or w / out your nod of approval.

Hector is another story. He should have said he made an error but he didn't, that's all he did wrong in my mind. I should have caught the problem and changed my pick up time and I did not, missing the flight was my fault. That whole week I was in Medellin was a whirlwind and most days were spent w / hangovers and planning for the oncoming night. So now when I look back at the flight issue I take more responsibility for not catching the mistake. The amount of traveling experience I have is minimal and this was the first time I missed a flight so I was shocked and dismayed. Hector knew how unhappy I was because I called him right away, he got another driver to take me back to HMP2, luckily my rm. Was available for one more night. As time went on I tried to make the best of it and did. I saw 2 additional ladies that day and my new flight schedule (the next day) allowed for an 11 hr layover in San Salvador. I got to explore San Salvador a bit w / my brothers novia (as tour guide) , my first impressions are not that good but it was good to get my feet on the ground there. So as of this minute I am glad I received some resistance here because I deserved it except for the Nicol thing. Hector is a good guy but he keeps his personality to himself. I'm not going to let this stop me from using his services that benefit me, he is like clock work, very professional. I just need to vent a little at the end of my TR.

And "w / out bad energy there would be no good energy".

[QUOTE=Legal Tender;1472490]I don't understand why anyone would chose to react in such an unproductive way. We can't control what situations we find ourselves facing, but we do chose our reactions. Nicoi was not prepared for sex work. A gentle statement to her that she would have to go, with offer of a few pesos for transportation would have resolved the problem, with no drama.[/QUOTE]Socker has a point. The girl has a nice rack and ends up going to his room. But 'somehow' she neglected to tell him the tits were off limits. Hmmmm That is pretty shady. If she had mentioned that upfront, before going to the room, he could have made a decison based on that info. Now if he takes her, he knows what he is getting and what he is not getting. However, she wants the money, so she didn't say anything until AFTER they are in the room. That's the shady part.

Once she is in the room and they are getting ready to have a romp, she stands a good chance of sealing the deal. If she told him before, he may have very well said no thanks.

Too bad the boobies we love so much were not part of the plan. I would not be happy with that either.

I agree with the part about sending her away. Depending on how horny I am and what options are available, a taxi may have very well been called.

[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99; 1472702]Socker has a point. The girl has a nice rack and ends up going to his room. But 'somehow' she neglected to tell him the tits were off limits. Hmmmm That is pretty shady. If she had mentioned that upfront, before going to the room, he could have made a decison based on that info. Now if he takes her, he knows what he is getting and what he is not getting. However, she wants the money, so she didn't say anything until AFTER they are in the room. That's the shady part.

Once she is in the room and they are getting ready to have a romp, she stands a good chance of sealing the deal. If she told him before, he may have very well said no thanks.

Too bad the boobies we love so much were not part of the plan. I would not be happy with that either.

I agree with the part about sending her away. Depending on how horny I am and what options are available, a taxi may have very well been called.[/QUOTE]I had to have a "hands off" or "very gental" or two in my time in Colombia and once in the states. Just like Shocker said; girl just got them, very nice to look at but they were not read for a "time trial". Sounds lame the entire thing, I'd not go as far to say dishonest but deceptive and for sure misleading. What was her name again? I'm going down in Feb for a visit and the new boobies should be ready to go by then! LOL!

So where is the best place to go watch American football these days besides Hooters or La Cueva?

Also, any nice pool halls to be found? A comfortable place to entertain myself and my girl. Not billiards.

I also heard of a pistol firing range but have had no success finding it.

The yellow pages in Medellin are kind of unreliable. I'm hoping to hear some field reports.

Looking for up to date opinions. What are your best, ehem,"date spots," or non sex / pre-sex entertainment venues going on these days?

I have found a couple of casinos pretty fun and a little cash can really go a long way in Medellin.

Paintball? Mud runs?

Going back to Medellin next month and I want to compile an awesome to do list.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1472759]So where is the best place to go watch American football these days besides Hooters or La Cueva?

Also, any nice pool halls to be found? A comfortable place to entertain myself and my girl. Not billiards.

I also heard of a pistol firing range but have had no success finding it.

The yellow pages in Medellin are kind of unreliable. I'm hoping to hear some field reports.

Looking for up to date opinions. What are your best, ehem,"date spots," or non sex / pre-sex entertainment venues going on these days?

I have found a couple of casinos pretty fun and a little cash can really go a long way in Medellin.

Paintball? Mud runs?

Going back to Medellin next month and I want to compile an awesome to do list.

Thanks![/QUOTE]American football is televised on regular cable. I do not know of any places with Sunday Ticket, although a couple places in El Poblado pushed "American Sports," I found that it just meant that they would put on the Final of March Madness instead of the friendly futbol match that most places would be showing. They show at least one and often two afternoon games on Fox Sports (feed is from Mexico, I believe) and the Sunday Night game is usually on ESPN. These games can be watched anywhere with a TV, basically.

As for shooting ranges, well I am a lover not a fighter but ironically Medellin "Romance" tours says that an outdoor range is part of their package. Contact them for more info, ask them where it is and what it's called, then call the place directly and bypass the tour BS. I do know that *legal* gun ownership here is quite expensive. The same pistols you can buy at WalMart for $250 will cost three or four times that much here, and ammunition is also expensive, someone once told me around $1 a round. This is to say that the gun ranges here are probably somewhat expensive.

There are a lot of casinos, I am sure you can figure that one out. One thing I don't know about is Sports Books, that was being discussed here earlier. Lots of ways to bet on futbol if that is your thing, not sure about other sports.

I have heard of paintball here but I bet you will be disappointed. Not long ago they were playing with real bullets in the woods here.

There are loads of date spots, you have to feel this out with the chica. La 33 has plenty of good cocktail spots, there are numerous discussions of restaurants, lookout spots, etc here in the forums.

You could always buy Rick Steve's Guide to Medellin.

[QUOTE=Socker; 1472697]. Hector is another story. He should have said he made an error but he didn't, that's all he did wrong in my mind. I should have caught the problem and changed my pick up time and I did not, missing the flight was my fault. That whole week I was in Medellin was a whirlwind and most days were spent w / hangovers and planning for the oncoming night. So now when I look back at the flight issue I take more responsibility for not catching the mistake. The amount of traveling experience I have is minimal and this was the first time I missed a flight so I was shocked and dismayed. Hector knew how unhappy I was because I called him right away, he got another driver to take me back to HMP2, luckily my rm. Was available for one more night. As time went on I tried to make the best of it and did. I saw 2 additional ladies that day and my new flight schedule (the next day) allowed for an 11 hr layover in San Salvador. I got to explore San Salvador a bit w / my brothers novia (as tour guide) , my first impressions are not that good but it was good to get my feet on the ground there. So as of this minute I am glad I received some resistance here because I deserved it except for the Nicol thing. Hector is a good guy but he keeps his personality to himself. I'm not going to let this stop me from using his services that benefit me, he is like clock work, very professional. I just need to vent a little at the end of my TR.

And "w / out bad energy there would be no good energy".[/QUOTE]Hey Sock, good for you for at least accepting some blame with the whole Hector, missed flight fiasco.

Funny thing is Hector has always been very personable and friendly, and has actually become a friend.

As far as the girl with the "no touch" new tatas, well that does suck (or not suck, hahaha).

We've all been sham- boozled by girls, it happens.

It just makes the good experiences that much better, and through experience, you get tricked much less often.

I'm actually wondering if I met you in Medellin.

Where you the young, happy guy that I kept teasing about shouting out "60, 000 pesos for..."?

Just wondering.

Taker easy amigo.

[QUOTE=PaisaLoco;1472425]Attached are photos of some regular girls I met during my trip and I only paid for the taxi and some gifts.[/QUOTE]PL,

You mentioned you had luck with regular girls. Do you know the language? Or, good enough just to get by? Also, where / what location was good for you to score some fine chicas for free? Please share your insight because I'll be heading to MDE next month!

Thanks!

If anyone needs a driver I know a guy who is extremely trustworthy, great person. He has his own chevy sedan that is nice and roomy. He gets you places quickly and converses very well (in spanish, of course). He had been charing 60K but it may now be 70K, you will have to square it away with him.

As far as intl flights, here they actually suggest three hours in advance but honestly in literally every country I have been it is two hours in advance. I would advise sticking to that and not cutting it too close.

Nothing much new to report here, settled into a nice groove. Some buddies are coming down next weekend, I am sure that will force me away from the regulars and into some new action to share.

I just found the board and was hoping some veterans might be able to offer some advice.

I have another 2 weeks in Medellin and was wondering:

1) For a guy who speaks a little Spanish, Where would be a good place to meet a regular Colombiana or even a semi-pro girl? Not sure if it matters but I can dance a little Salsa too.

2) Do you have to stay at the hotel Medellin to hangout their during the day? I'm thinking that maybe I can meet a Chica during the day, maybe at the pool and arrange something.

3) How does someone get to Mayorista street. At least the part where the women are on display?

And just throwing this one out there.

4) I could use a wingman someone to go out with. If anyone is in the city now (or will be in the next 2 weeks) and willing to "show me the ropes" so to speak, I'd be happy to pick up the tab for a fun night out.

Sorry if the answers are already out there but I have limited computer access right now and can't surf as much as I would like.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Socker; 1472697]He got another driver to take me back to HMP2, luckily my rm. Was available for one more night. As time went on I tried to make the best of it and did. I saw 2 additional ladies that day and my new flight schedule (the next day) allowed for an 11 hr layover in San Salvador. I got to explore San Salvador a bit w / my brothers novia (as tour guide) , my first impressions are not that good but it was good to get my feet on the ground there. So as of this minute I am glad I received some resistance here because I deserved it except for the Nicol thing. Hector is a good guy but he keeps his personality to himself. I'm not going to let this stop me from using his services that benefit me, he is like clock work, very professional. I just need to vent a little at the end of my TR.

And "w / out bad energy there would be no good energy".[/QUOTE]I'm just feeling good energy here. Sounds like U-turned lemons into lemonade. Unfortunately, we have all had similar experiences with a working girl, as Ricker reminded us. Come back to Medellin, there's a whole world there other than the girls at the Mansion, on the street or in the casas.

[QUOTE=PaisaLoco;1472425]Attached are photos of some regular girls I met during my trip and I only paid for the taxi and some gifts.[/QUOTE]Exactly how long was your trip. Those photos are dated 2012 & 2009. LOL.

Thanks for the info!

How is the food at the hotel Medellin, cannot find anything on that?

How much for TLN with the chicas at the hotel, has anyone tried?

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1472618]TravelGuy99:

Don't worry about any gorditas with big asses and tits. You will be in skinny-bytch heaven at the mansion. That's mostly what the owners there like and invite over, which is why I haven't been back.

A lot of the questions you are asking have been answered a million times already. Just read some of the recent reports and go back to posts between the 2011-2012 time frame.

I have been to the DR 6 time and trust me when I tell you there is very little comparison; like apples to oranges. You are talking about D'Latins which is in Sosua, and Medellin is nothing like Sosua.

BUT: Liquid Lounge would be very similar to D'Latins. But as you can see from the few reports about the place it still has not gotten off the ground just yet. Most guys go there and just end up leaving and walking over to Fase Dos (a strip club).

(The last Newsletter Liquid Lounge send out was muy caliente though.

Also, you probably do not want to be bringing any chica you met in Mayorista back to your hotel room. Use the short-term love motels in that area. Last thing you want is for her to relay to her "handlers" how rich you are (laptop, smartphone where you are staying, etc.).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StudBucket;1472633].. .. .. Also, when you say "you seldom will find one offering herself for an hour for a price", I don't quite understand what you are referring to.[/QUOTE]What I mean is none of the pretty girls I saw in Medellin were prostitutes.

[QUOTE]Because Fase II definitely is only short time. 1 hr with the girls. Can you or someone else please elaborate on this?[/QUOTE]Next to Fase II is a place called Night Beach or some similar name, which is buildings inside a larger building with private rooms with private bathrooms where you can take the girls you meet at Fase II, probably only for an hour or two. I don't know about overnight.

[QUOTE=Hasideas Tao; 1472759]So where is the best place to go watch American football these days besides Hooters or La Cueva?

Also, any nice pool halls to be found? A comfortable place to entertain myself and my girl. Not billiards.

I also heard of a pistol firing range but have had no success finding it.

The yellow pages in Medellin are kind of unreliable. I'm hoping to hear some field reports.

Looking for up to date opinions. What are your best, ehem,"date spots," or non sex / pre-sex entertainment venues going on these days?

I have found a couple of casinos pretty fun and a little cash can really go a long way in Medellin.

Paintball? Mud runs?

Going back to Medellin next month and I want to compile an awesome to do list.

Thanks![/QUOTE]The bar across the street from Hooters. Timeout, I believe, shows American football also.

[QUOTE=Param Ahmad; 1472620]A recent Friday night in Medellin I decided to check out Liquid Lounge, Calle 26A, #43F-72 about 10 pm and was the only customer. There were about four girls, none especially great looking. One of them quoted me 150, 000 Colombian pesos for one hour at my hotel. She said there are no private rooms at Liquid Lounge, so it is apparently solely a "take-out" sort of place. If Liquid Lounge usually has so few customers I won't be surprised if Liquid Lounge isn't around a year or two from now.

I continued on to Fase II. It was now well after 10 pm. I looked around a few times and counted the number of women, counting as many as 26. Again I found none tempting.

A taxi driver took me to Luna Lunera on Avenida 33 where there were probably twice as many women as Fase II, but none looked good to me, probably in part because I like thinner women than all but one I saw, and that one wasn't otherwise attractive.

I walked across Avenida 33 to 64-198 Avenida 33, which was (past tense) the location of Abydos. I thought it might be worth a look because it was one of only two places I've found a sufficiently attractive woman in such places in Medellin in the past. It appeared to be closed. A man on the sidewalk, seeing me checking the place out, told me Abydos has closed. A Google Advanced Search for Abydos limited to internationalsexguide (dot) info yielded no reports about the closing of Abydos. Can anybody report whether it is closed temporarily or permanently or if it only moved to a different location?

There are pretty women in Medellin, Colombia, but in my experience you seldom will find one offering herself for an hour for a price. On the other hand, if you like moderately chubby girl-next-door types, you'll save a lot of money in Medellin compared to lots of other parts of the world, but then if you are satisfied with such women, you probably don't need to be paying for sex in the first place.[/QUOTE]Liquid Lounge just opened recently. They are still getting their feet wet.

Sounds like you have been travelling to Asia. Latin girls are known for their curvaceous bodies (tits and ass). Of course there are varieties, but if that is not your thing. Then Latin girls might not be for you.

[QUOTE=Param Ahmad; 1473071]What I mean is none of the pretty girls I saw in Medellin were prostitutes..[/QUOTE]I would strongly agree with this comment. If you like super attractive Colombianas, which I do as well, I am going to recommend Bogota's high end places such as Lalos, Casanovas, or other places near Zona Rosa. One can meet hot non-pro girls on Colombian.

Cupid based out of MDE though, that is why I go there. For mongering, Bogota is better overall IMO.

[QUOTE=PaisaLoco; 1472425]Trip advice on how to extend your dollar.

Airport: A taxi to Poblado will cost you $56K, but you can always take a shared bus which runs every 30 min from

Airport to Santa Fe area and take a cab back to your Apt, you can just pay $5K for bus and $5K for the cab and save $46K.

Do not change your money at the airport if you can, just change the bare min needed to get home.

Buy duty fee liquor at the airport, liquor can be expensive in the stores.

Money Exchange: Cash is the king, gring cash if you can, you will not get a good rate from the ATM, usally you can get a 10 to 20 peso difference for every dollar.

For 1000 dollars you end up saving 20K. Best place to change is in Lleras near calle 10 & carrera 38, they usually are 10 peso higher than Oviado or Santa fe.

Always check the daily rate...[/QUOTE]Just wanted to make some corrections.

It's 8k bus from the airport. Taxi to Poblado from the bus is about 8-10k.

Best exchange rate is with a no fee ATM card. Like Schwab (see the Money Exchange thread).

Good luck getting a girl to take a metro and taxi.

[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99; 1472702]Socker has a point. The girl has a nice rack and ends up going to his room. But 'somehow' she neglected to tell him the tits were off limits. Hmmmm That is pretty shady. If she had mentioned that upfront, before going to the room, he could have made a decison based on that info. Now if he takes her, he knows what he is getting and what he is not getting. However, she wants the money, so she didn't say anything until AFTER they are in the room. That's the shady part.

Once she is in the room and they are getting ready to have a romp, she stands a good chance of sealing the deal. If she told him before, he may have very well said no thanks.

Too bad the boobies we love so much were not part of the plan. I would not be happy with that either.

I agree with the part about sending her away. Depending on how horny I am and what options are available, a taxi may have very well been called.[/QUOTE]I just met her the other day. Nice girl. If you had done any talking to her before bringing her back, you would know that she just had a breast reduction and it's still very sensitive. Give her some time to heal!

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1472727]I had to have a "hands off" or "very gental" or two in my time in Colombia and once in the states. Just like Shocker said; girl just got them, very nice to look at but they were not read for a "time trial". Sounds lame the entire thing, I'd not go as far to say dishonest but deceptive and for sure misleading. What was her name again? I'm going down in Feb for a visit and the new boobies should be ready to go by then! LOL![/QUOTE]As I was leaving the Mansion she was coming to the Mansion in a cab. She looks better than decent (normally wouldn't choose her) but when I saw her huge tits laying so nicely in their compartment I just had to have them. She went upstairs and Carlos was working the door. She signed in w / Carlos and as she was signing in I asked Carlos (in front of Nicol) are these real dude? We both looked at them (huge cleavage) and he said, yeah Socker they are. When I first saw her / them I thought they looked real, otherwise I would not waste time on fakes tits, don't like them. Fast-forward to after she tells me I can't see or touch them, she then says she had them reduced! She did not have a breast enlargement, she had a freaking breast reduction. (I'm thinking) Oh shitttt, a few days ago they were even bigger?

What she did is called bait and switch. She baited me w / her killer big tits. Did I get to see these mammoth delights? No. And forget about the other fun things you can do w / huge tits. My only compensation is they were probably better looking in a bra but I will always wonder about these tits that got away. Never really knowing what I missed. Somebody please go and whip them out and let me know how they look and feel so I can cry in my beer. Shheeee.

Fast-forward to now. The chic played me and got over, now I have the fish that got away story, I guess we're even.

[QUOTE=JayRich; 1473002]I just found the board and was hoping some veterans might be able to offer some advice.

I have another 2 weeks in Medellin and was wondering:

1) For a guy who speaks a little Spanish, Where would be a good place to meet a regular Colombiana or even a semi-pro girl? Not sure if it matters but I can dance a little Salsa too.

This seems like an odd question, where would be a good place to meet any non-pro? Universities, supermarkets, shopping malls, the street, wherever. There is no bar where regular girls congregate LOL, they are all over the place. The phrase "semi-pro" is always ridiculous to me (if you take sex for money, then you are a prostitute) but I suppose there you'd do well working Facebook a bit or looking on the street where a lot of high school and college girls will ply their trade on an infrequent basis. Otherwise it's kind of guess-and-check, follow hunches, approach women, do not be afraid to be shot down.

2) Do you have to stay at the hotel Medellin to hangout their during the day? I'm thinking that maybe I can meet a Chica during the day, maybe at the pool and arrange something.

I think that's the case until the evening when La Cueva opens, I am not sure. I am certain this info has been covered if you search though. I doubt any hotel where you're not saying will let you hang around their pool, that would be a first.

3) How does someone get to Mayorista street. At least the part where the women are on display?

Just ask a cabbie to take you to the Mayorista. Nothing is hidden. There are a bunch of supermarkets and a short distance away a row of bars with the girls. There isn't much else there. They will know you don't want to go buy peanut butter and Preparation H.

4) I could use a wingman someone to go out with. If anyone is in the city now (or will be in the next 2 weeks) and willing to "show me the ropes" so to speak, I'd be happy to pick up the tab for a fun night out.

Feel free to send me a PM if you like, I might still be here, let me know the dates. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Patji8;1472889]PL, you mentioned you had luck with regular girls. Do you know the language? Or, good enough just to get by? Also, where / what location was good for you to score some fine chicas for free? Please share your insight because I'll be heading to MDE next month! Thanks![/QUOTE]They are not fish, dude, there is not a sweet spot or a particular kind of bait. Know how to communicate, sharpen your instincts and be charming. Most guys do none of the three, so they are better off sticking to P4P if you ask me. Patience is also a virtue, but it's sometimes hard to have it when you're in town for a week and know you can get a sure thing 24/7.

This is also a hard question to answer without knowing how old you are and what type of girls you want. If you're a young guy I would tell you to hang with a university crowd, but if you're 50 years old that would be creepy and implausible.

[QUOTE=JayRich; 1473002]I just found the board and was hoping some veterans might be able to offer some advice.

I have another 2 weeks in Medellin and was wondering:

1) For a guy who speaks a little Spanish, Where would be a good place to meet a regular Colombiana or even a semi-pro girl? Not sure if it matters but I can dance a little Salsa too.

2) Do you have to stay at the hotel Medellin to hangout their during the day? I'm thinking that maybe I can meet a Chica during the day, maybe at the pool and arrange something.

3) How does someone get to Mayorista street. At least the part where the women are on display?

And just throwing this one out there.

4) I could use a wingman someone to go out with. If anyone is in the city now (or will be in the next 2 weeks) and willing to "show me the ropes" so to speak, I'd be happy to pick up the tab for a fun night out.

Sorry if the answers are already out there but I have limited computer access right now and can't surf as much as I would like.

Thanks[/QUOTE]The "normal girl" question is asked time and time again. If you're not in town for an extended period of time you're hamstrung. The "I'm dating / fucking a gringo" trick has worn off long ago! If you can't meet girls in America you are not going to be able to pull girls in Colombia. If you're good looking, funny, and charming you wouldn't be asking how to meet girls in Colombia. Stick to working girls. You'll be happier.

[QUOTE=Patji8;1472889]PL, you mentioned you had luck with regular girls. Do you know the language? Or, good enough just to get by? Also, where / what location was good for you to score some fine chicas for free? Please share your insight because I'll be heading to MDE next month! Thanks![/QUOTE]Well there are a couple options.

You can visit the "Non-pro Martini bar", lots of regular, hot Paisas waiting to be picked up there.

No spanish required, they're all issued digital translators.

Or of course, you can just hit Parque Lleras in the evening wearing a T-shirt saying,"I am a Gringo, let's get it on"

Hahaha, just kidding of course.

Best course of action.

Learn spanish, learn more spanish, get conversational.

Be born with or develop a friendly, cool, open personality.

Stay in at least relatively decent shape.

Be polite, but talk to anyone that may interest you, whether it be in a cafe, bar, nightclub, gym, dry cleaner, lobby, metro, street, whatever.

And finally, learn more Spanish.

Good luck.

Why go to Medellin? Usual suspects, in the usual places [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yclJ6LpccXY[/url]

Hey what places were those "moderately chubby girl next door types" at? I need thick voluptuous girls in my life! LOL (I don't do skinny petite "anorexic" girls) I need more cushion. For the pushing! LOL

[QUOTE=TravelGuy99; 1473057]How is the food at the hotel Medellin, cannot find anything on that?

How much for TLN with the chicas at the hotel, has anyone tried?[/QUOTE]There is no food at Hotel Medellin Plaza (the Mansion). You can buy food from the store and (politely) ask the maids if they can cook it for you. Just give them a tip as an appreciation.

For food, most people usually walk to Oviedo or Santa Fe mall, which is about a 10-12 minute walk from the mansion. You can also take a taxi, but it is perfectly safe (and visually appealing) to walk to these places, even at night.

There are lots more food options on Calle 10 (KFC, Dominos, Frisby's Chicken, Burger King, etc.) , but I would not advise walking there from the Mansion (too far). Have the night guy or one of the maids order from either of these places for you, as they all do delivery (yes, even KFC and Burger King!).

As far as TLN with a Mansion chica, expect to pay 250K to 300K COP. Some may go for less if it is very late in the night, but don't expect any of the very popular chicas to go for less than that. As always recommended, you can save a lot of money and ass pain by doing short time (ST) with a chica first. That way if you get her in your room and she pulls some bullshit like she doesn't do BBBJ or you can't touch her tits, you are only out of 100-150K (or nothing if you immediately send her packing) as opposed to 250K-300K. If the two of you hit it off very well (it was an amazing session) you can always ask her to give you her number and invite her back for TLN the next day (or a few days later). It's best to set TLNs up ahead of time in case a chica needs to find a babysitter or something.

P. S.: Pay the $19.95/yr so that you can PM/receive PM's (Private Messages) from other members who may be willing to give you more information behind-the-scenes. You also can view photos posted and get an idea of what you could expect.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1473082]The bar across the street from Hooters. Timeout, I believe, shows American football also.[/QUOTE]About a block up the road from there, the Irish pub (formerly El Alamo) also shows American football.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1473357]There is no food at Hotel Medellin Plaza (the Mansion). You can buy food from the store and (politely) ask the maids if they can cook it for you. Just give them a tip as an appreciation.

For food, most people usually walk to Oviedo or Santa Fe mall, which is about a 10-12 minute walk from the mansion. You can also take a taxi, but it is perfectly safe (and visually appealing) to walk to these places, even at night.

There are lots more food options on Calle 10 (KFC, Dominos, Frisby's Chicken, Burger King, etc.) , but I would not advise walking there from the Mansion (too far). Have the night guy or one of the maids order from either of these places for you, as they all do delivery (yes, even KFC and Burger King!).

As far as TLN with a Mansion chica, expect to pay 250K to 300K COP. Some may go for less if it is very late in the night, but don't expect any of the very popular chicas to go for less than that. As always recommended, you can save a lot of money and ass pain by doing short time (ST) with a chica first. That way if you get her in your room and she pulls some bullshit like she doesn't do BBBJ or you can't touch her tits, you are only out of 100-150K (or nothing if you immediately send her packing) as opposed to 250K-300K. If the two of you hit it off very well (it was an amazing session) you can always ask her to give you her number and invite her back for TLN the next day (or a few days later). It's best to set TLNs up ahead of time in case a chica needs to find a babysitter or something.

P. S. : Pay the $19. 95 / yr so that you can PM / receive PM's (Private Messages) from other members who may be willing to give you more information behind-the-scenes. You also can view photos posted and get an idea of what you could expect.[/QUOTE]I think your advice to ST with a chica the first time is right on. IMO a basic rule of mongering. I can't understand why a guy would commit to TLN w / o knowing how he gets along with the chica.

I've also found with some Mansion girls that if you do short-time and you get along well and it's late, she will be happy to extend it to TLN for no extra. Though, as SavePros pointed out, this may not work with some of the more popular girls. I'm generally not a fan of TLN, so I make it clear that I'm not going to pay extra for it, but if she wants to stay o/n and and behaves herself, it's cool.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1473193]They are not fish, dude, there is not a sweet spot or a particular kind of bait. Know how to communicate, sharpen your instincts and be charming. Most guys do none of the three, so they are better off sticking to P4P if you ask me. Patience is also a virtue, but it's sometimes hard to have it when you're in town for a week and know you can get a sure thing 24/7.

This is also a hard question to answer without knowing how old you are and what type of girls you want. If you're a young guy I would tell you to hang with a university crowd, but if you're 50 years old that would be creepy and implausible.[/QUOTE]WiltTheStilt, thanks! LOL, yes, that would be creepy! Well, I'm coming in a group of four or five, from late 20's to early 30's. I like them university type, (20+) , pretty, fit, looking to party (not crazily) , def not into big women etc. Where does the university crowd usually hang around at?

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1473283]Well there are a couple options.

You can visit the "Non-pro Martini bar", lots of regular, hot Paisas waiting to be picked up there.

No spanish required, they're all issued digital translators.

Or of course, you can just hit Parque Lleras in the evening wearing a T-shirt saying,"I am a Gringo, let's get it on"

Hahaha, just kidding of course.

Best course of action.

Learn spanish, learn more spanish, get conversational.

Be born with or develop a friendly, cool, open personality.

Stay in at least relatively decent shape.

Be polite, but talk to anyone that may interest you, whether it be in a cafe, bar, nightclub, gym, dry cleaner, lobby, metro, street, whatever.

And finally, learn more Spanish.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]Ricker, which Martini bars are popular around MDE? I've been to Cali before but since we're of Indian descent, most Colombianos think we're Colombians until we start to speak. My Spanish is not terrible but it's not great. It's good enough to get around, tell the girls what I want, order food, tell the cabbie where I want to go etc. Girls always tell me that my Spanish is good, guess it's my pronunciation. Anyways, we're not big or hefty nor ripped. I think I'm attractive as most girls do comment, que lindo, bonito, rico, whatever, and I'm not trying to sound cocky but just trying to give you an idea on where we would have the most luck trying to pick up girls without having to pay. I'm always down to pay regardless but it's just the excitement of trying to pick up a girl that is thrilling to me, that challenge. And, if I do fail, at least I know I have casas / strip clubs as a backup so I'm not so stressed. I'm also doing the FB thing so I have a few options. Oh, I am still learning Spanish since the last time so I def understand the importance of learning the language!

Thanks in advance to both of you vets!

There are a lot around campuses and the nearby parks. There is no "Peach Pit" of Beverly Hills 90210 fame or anything. The richer ones will be in Lleras and stuff, I doubt that's really the scene for a traveler whose plan B is mongering. You will pay more chasing "free" pussy (especially in a shorter time frame) than P4P here, but by all means go for it. The universities organize a lot of concerts and lectures and shit for students, there are private things like that and sometimes cool parties with girls, graffiti, party favors and more.

But, speaking to Ricker's understandably sarcastic point and the one I was trying to make below, this is a hard question to ask because non-pros are not going to organize themselves in the way that pros are. Why would they? That wouldn't make any sense. You're basically asking where are the best singles bars in Medellin. It's not like New York City where there is a hot set of meat markets for particular age groups or something, sorry to disappoint you. You sound like you have a decent base to explore from, get out there and use it.

Guys,

The new dude ranches name is "Outback Mansion....69" be up and running by the middle of next year. I have fotos but carnt be fucked down sizing. them.

A. G.

[QUOTE= I'm not trying to sound cocky but just trying to give you an idea on where we would have the most luck trying to pick up girls without having to pay.[/QUOTE]How about Pattaya LOL!

When I travel, I do it so I don't have to play the dating game. You can stay in the states and waste your money wining and dining.

In a place like Medellin where you have an unlimited supply of hot women for little money, it makes no sense to be spending time and money on a dating maybe.

To each his own but unless you plan on being there for a long period of time, in my opinion dating is a waste of time.

When I'm in Medellin, I want as many gf's as I can buy. LOL

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1473661]There are a lot around campuses and the nearby parks. There is no "Peach Pit" of Beverly Hills 90210 fame or anything. The richer ones will be in Lleras and stuff, I doubt that's really the scene for a traveler whose plan B is mongering. You will pay more chasing "free" pussy (especially in a shorter time frame) than P4P here, but by all means go for it. The universities organize a lot of concerts and lectures and shit for students, there are private things like that and sometimes cool parties with girls, graffiti, party favors and more.

But, speaking to Ricker's understandably sarcastic point and the one I was trying to make below, this is a hard question to ask because non-pros are not going to organize themselves in the way that pros are. Why would they? That wouldn't make any sense. You're basically asking where are the best singles bars in Medellin. It's not like New York City where there is a hot set of meat markets for particular age groups or something, sorry to disappoint you. You sound like you have a decent base to explore from, get out there and use it.[/QUOTE]Haha, I hear ya! Thanks for the input! Either way, we'll be carrying around some 'meat' that will be needing a little bit of beating and pounding anyways!

Saludos amigos!

[QUOTE=Tellall; 1473712]When I travel, I do it so I don't have to play the dating game. You can stay in the states and waste your money wining and dining.

In a place like Medellin where you have an unlimited supply of hot women for little money, it makes no sense to be spending time and money on a dating maybe.

To each his own but unless you plan on being there for a long period of time, in my opinion dating is a waste of time.

When I'm in Medellin, I want as many gf's as I can buy. LOL[/QUOTE]Length of visit is the key. IMO for a week or less, it's ridiculous to go the non-pro route. Time is precious on such a short visit, and most of us don't want to spend it with blue balls.

[QUOTE=Patji8; 1473417]WiltTheStilt, thanks! LOL, yes, that would be creepy! Well, I'm coming in a group of four or five, from late 20's to early 30's. I like them university type, (20+) , pretty, fit, looking to party (not crazily) , def not into big women etc. Where does the university crowd usually hang around at?

Ricker, which Martini bars are popular around MDE? I've been to Cali before but since we're of Indian descent, most Colombianos think we're Colombians until we start to speak. My Spanish is not terrible but it's not great. It's good enough to get around, tell the girls what I want, order food, tell the cabbie where I want to go etc. Girls always tell me that my Spanish is good, guess it's my pronunciation. Anyways, we're not big or hefty nor ripped. I think I'm attractive as most girls do comment, que lindo, bonito, rico, whatever, and I'm not trying to sound cocky but just trying to give you an idea on where we would have the most luck trying to pick up girls without having to pay. I'm always down to pay regardless but it's just the excitement of trying to pick up a girl that is thrilling to me, that challenge. And, if I do fail, at least I know I have casas / strip clubs as a backup so I'm not so stressed. I'm also doing the FB thing so I have a few options. Oh, I am still learning Spanish since the last time so I def understand the importance of learning the language!

Thanks in advance to both of you vets![/QUOTE]What they are trying to say is that there are no specific spots. Basically, Colombianas are very friendly and approachable. Just go up and say hi wherever you are. Your best bet is to go to Parque Lleras or Barrio Colombia and go into any place with loud music and have a look around. Get a drink and settle in. Obviously, don't treat the girls like hookers or you are asking for trouble. Just go up to them and introduce yourself. You will probably have a higher success rate of getting a girl to talk to you than back in the States. Same basic rules of picking up a chick applies, the only difference is that most will actually talk to you. Rather than make a disgusted face and walk away! Oh another thing, just because they talk to you more, doesn't mean that they are easier to bed than a girl in the States!

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Hioctane; 1473881]What they are trying to say is that there are no specific spots. Basically, Colombianas are very friendly and approachable. Just go up and say hi wherever you are. Your best bet is to go to Parque Lleras or Barrio Colombia and go into any place with loud music and have a look around. Get a drink and settle in. Obviously, don't treat the girls like hookers or you are asking for trouble. Just go up to them and introduce yourself. You will probably have a higher success rate of getting a girl to talk to you than back in the States. Same basic rules of picking up a chick applies, the only difference is that most will actually talk to you. Rather than make a disgusted face and walk away! Oh another thing, just because they talk to you more, doesn't mean that they are easier to bed than a girl in the States!

Good luck![/QUOTE]Definitely! Totally agree and understand what you all mean! Thanks for the feedback. I'll be sure to check out those areas.

I love reading some of the so called expert responding to someone's inquiry on getting a GF for only a week. Everyone tells you naaa, don't waist your time. Or not possible or better stick to the easier rout of pros or you'll need more time. Bla. Blablaa wrong!

All you need some Spanish, walking el centro NOT the fucking poblado and approach approach numerous times.

Read my reports. I'm not going to repeat myself. I think I did why'all a great service by now.

My proof is in my photos. Not my bla. Bla. Blaaa

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1474251]I love reading some of the so called expert responding to someone's inquiry on getting a GF for only a week. Everyone tells you naaa, don't waist your time. Or not possible or better stick to the easier rout of pros or you'll need more time. Bla. Blablaa wrong!

All you need some Spanish, walking el centro NOT the fucking poblado and approach approach numerous times.

Read my reports. I'm not going to repeat myself. I think I did why'all a great service by now.

My proof is in my photos. Not my bla. Bla. Blaaa[/QUOTE]It's easy to get a girlfriend for a week, sure, but you're basically finding someone who wants to give you a higher level of companionship at a more reasonable price. Keep fooling yourself that girls want to sleep with you almost immediately and hang around the entire time you're in town because of your Spanish skills and charm. Those things are near requisites, but the cash in your pocket is still the sine qua non here. On top of that, as you can see, there are guys here with mixed levels of ability and comfort.

I have had non pro GFs here, what some would call semi-pros (a dumb term, I'll reiterate) and even full on pros for short flings. But I'm not going to pretend my experience applies to everyone. And if it is so great with just a little effort, why advertise it? I get the feeling a lot of people come here to feel secure about themselves. Like meth addicts who smoke it and look down on the people who spike it. Just relax, we can help each other out without tooting our own horns or figuring everyone is in the exact same position.

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0; 1474251]I love reading some of the so called expert responding to someone's inquiry on getting a GF for only a week. Everyone tells you naaa, don't waist your time. Or not possible or better stick to the easier rout of pros or you'll need more time. Bla. Blablaa wrong!

All you need some Spanish, walking el centro NOT the fucking poblado and approach approach numerous times.

Read my reports. I'm not going to repeat myself. I think I did why'all a great service by now.

My proof is in my photos. Not my bla. Bla. Blaaa[/QUOTE]That's great BrasilSoccer. But really, I can have relationships with girls in the States. The bad is that they are usually w / in 15 years of my 49; but the good is I have time to develop something with them which contributes to an emphathetic relationship (GFE). OTOH I go to MDE, Brasil, the DR, etc to bone different hot-looking 20 year-olds every day for a week or so. It's fantasy week and I'm guesssing that's how most ISGers look at their vacation in MDE. Now if I lived in MDE long-term, I would certainly attempt to do the relationship / dating thing there. I speak good Spanish and I'm a reasonably sociable guy and trying for the satisfaction of a GFE would make alot of sense.

I'm by no means an expert. It's just my opinion that for a guy in MDE for a week, trying for a GF for a week with a nonpro probably is not the best use of his precious vacation time. However, everyone is different, and we are all free to do what we'd like. I don't think any of the readers year take my 2 cents as being an ironclad rule.

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt; 1474262]It's easy to get a girlfriend for a week, sure, but you're basically finding someone who wants to give you a higher level of companionship at a more reasonable price. Keep fooling yourself that girls want to sleep with you almost immediately and hang around the entire time you're in town because of your Spanish skills and charm. Those things are near requisites, but the cash in your pocket is still the sine qua non here. On top of that, as you can see, there are guys here with mixed levels of ability and comfort.

I have had non pro GFs here, what some would call semi-pros (a dumb term, I'll reiterate) and even full on pros for short flings. But I'm not going to pretend my experience applies to everyone. And if it is so great with just a little effort, why advertise it? I get the feeling a lot of people come here to feel secure about themselves. Like meth addicts who smoke it and look down on the people who spike it. Just relax, we can help each other out without tooting our own horns or figuring everyone is in the exact same position.[/QUOTE]Why are we still on this topic? I'm not trying to be a hater; just the opposite in that I'm keeping it real with the New Kids and Rookies. Keep it simple, use common sense, and be real. If you're not pulling any sort of chicks in your home country what makes you think you can pull chicks in a place where you don't even speak the language? No funny joke, no clever one liners, no charming compliment, no playful banter can be told to a girl that does not speak English and if you don't speak Spanish you up shit's creek. If you're "Tom Brady" handsome then you're not going to have any issues in any country! Blond hair and blue eyes are an advantage as the old adage "Opposites Attract" and clearly in most of South America and Asia people have darker features so "ojos claros" are very desired. As they are for us gringos too!

The "Hey look a Gringo! I'd like to fuck him" affect has long passed.

If you have to ask "Where do I pick up girls in ________" you need more help then you think. Same places as every country BRO! Bars, Clubs, Mall, Ect. Just say hello and strike up a conversation. If she smiles back and you can make her laugh you on a good path. If she looks away and does not really engage you need to cut your losses and move on. It's pretty much like a sales job it's a numbers game, keep asking, keep smiling, and with some luck you'll close a deal or two! Once again Spanish language skills come into play.

If you do get a number from the Legendary Regular Girl don't be butt-hurt if rings off the hook or goes right to voice mail. The "Paisa Game" is well documented on the boards and experienced first hand by the Mede veteranos that the girls don't want to hurt your feelings or a awkward situation so they give you one number and use a different sim card. If they do pick up, you make a date, don't be surprised if she flakes last second or ghosts totally.

Here it is.

Take notes and use common sense (I'm young, fun, decent looking, and yes I have "game" both Foreign and Domestic so I'm not full of shit.) If you don't speak Spanish go to a club with loud music, smiles and body language will get you over the language barrier for the short term. Do not be cheap! I can't stress that enough! Do Not Be Cheap! Get a table, near the main dance floor! If one guy in your group bitches "it's too loud!" Smack him and tell him to man up! LOL! Buy a bottle because waiting for a drink sucks and it looks like you have a clue, and offer the girls drinks back at your table. See what happened there? You have a place to isolate a girl you've targeted and you have a drink right there ready for her. 2+2=4!

If you can dance do it! If you can't dance get drunk and dance as best you can. It's the wiliness to get out there to be Fun and cool that girls like plus you don't want to lose "contact" with a girl you trying to sleep with! Seriously!

Bonus tip: If there is a older or fatter chick (or both!) show her some attention and include her in the rounds of shots and photos. She'll be less likely to cock block if you do this. Got to show the "Shield" some love.

Don't try to pick up the bar tender or waitress they get hit on all the time by tourists, ex pats and locals so for a short time visitor you are at a huge disadvantage. Unless you can speak Spanish and are "Tom Brady" handsome.

Bonus tips: Do not wear cargo shorts, flip flops, NFL jerseys, and I forget the other "Come on Man!" stuff but there is more. Think casual Friday as a good rule of thumb. Colombia is very image aware and if you look like some back packer chump that's how the Colombians will see you and treat you!

At Wilt: Great comment."people come here to feel secure about themselves." So true so true for so many reasons!

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1474262]. Just relax, we can help each other out without tooting our own horns or figuring everyone is in the exact same position.[/QUOTE]Right on Wilt. I agree 110 percent.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Patji8; 1473417]WiltTheStilt, thanks! LOL, yes, that would be creepy! Well, I'm coming in a group of four or five, from late 20's to early 30's. I like them university type, (20+) , pretty, fit, looking to party (not crazily) , def not into big women etc. Where does the university crowd usually hang around at?

Ricker, which Martini bars are popular around MDE? I've been to Cali before but since we're of Indian descent, most Colombianos think we're Colombians until we start to speak. My Spanish is not terrible but it's not great. It's good enough to get around, tell the girls what I want, order food, tell the cabbie where I want to go etc. Girls always tell me that my Spanish is good, guess it's my pronunciation. Anyways, we're not big or hefty nor ripped. I think I'm attractive as most girls do comment, que lindo, bonito, rico, whatever, and I'm not trying to sound cocky but just trying to give you an idea on where we would have the most luck trying to pick up girls without having to pay. I'm always down to pay regardless but it's just the excitement of trying to pick up a girl that is thrilling to me, that challenge. And, if I do fail, at least I know I have casas / strip clubs as a backup so I'm not so stressed. I'm also doing the FB thing so I have a few options. Oh, I am still learning Spanish since the last time so I def understand the importance of learning the language!

Thanks in advance to both of you vets![/QUOTE]Martini bar. DRY in La Strata.

Sunday – Karma (reggaeton, hip hop) or Tropical Cocktails (Sabaneta)

Monday – La Octava (rock)

Tuesday – El Eslabon Prendido (live salsa)

Wednesday – B-Lounge (crossover, ladies night)

Thursday. Babylon (crossover, ladies night) or Bendito Seas (crossover, ladies night)

Friday – Dulce Jesus Mio (crossover) or Trilogia Bar (live cover band + crossover DJ)

Saturday – Luxury Discoteca or Son Havana (live salsa band)

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1474251]All you need some Spanish, walking el centro NOT the fucking Poblado and approach approach numerous times.[/QUOTE]This is great advice and something that I have not heard mentioned on this board often. I live in El Poblado 5-6 months per year and I almost never hit on regular girls there. These girls have seen tourists, been hit on by tourists, and have an opinion regarding tourists. Many tourists stay in El Poblado and then walk the streets trying to pick up girls. Wrong approach guys. Also, you are prime target for the drug scopolamine in and around Parque Lleras. Very scary. If you are determined to meet regular girls leave El Poblado and try your luck.

[QUOTE=Cali Hentai; 1474336]Martini bar. DRY in La Strata.

Sunday – Karma (reggaeton, hip hop) or Tropical Cocktails (Sabaneta)

Monday – La Octava (rock)

Tuesday – El Eslabon Prendido (live salsa)

Wednesday – B-Lounge (crossover, ladies night)

Thursday. Babylon (crossover, ladies night) or Bendito Seas (crossover, ladies night)

Friday – Dulce Jesus Mio (crossover) or Trilogia Bar (live cover band + crossover DJ)

Saturday – Luxury Discoteca or Son Havana (live salsa band) [/QUOTE]A very nice and diverse list. Several I know of and several I do not. But in particular I love the live salsa places. Can't dance salsa, but LOVE listening to the music. Are you saying Luxury has live salsa on Sat or just Son Havana?

You can find a lot of mixed action up at Palmahia, loads of non-pros, drunk girls and often pros, too. A friend made me take her up there and we noticed a big car full of prepagos arriving, I guess it was one of their birthdays. I am sure a few are in there. That's a nice type of scene, where you've got a variety of options without too much ambiguity. There are places like that in CTG that are a little more on the pro side, these are a little more on the non pro side.

I've noticed a good amount of jazz and DJs arriving in the Centro. You can see flyers posted in and around Parque Periodista for that kind of stuff.

[QUOTE=LookingToSwing4;1474442]A very nice and diverse list. Several I know of and several I do not. But in particular I love the live salsa places. Can't dance salsa, but LOVE listening to the music. Are you saying Luxury has live salsa on Sat or just Son Havana?[/QUOTE]Just Son Havana. Have yet to see a live band in Luxury which plays crossover.

[QUOTE=LookingToSwing4;1474442]A very nice and diverse list. Several I know of and several I do not. But in particular I love the live salsa places. Can't dance salsa, but LOVE listening to the music. Are you saying Luxury has live salsa on Sat or just Son Havana?[/QUOTE]If you like Salsa, I highly recommend El Suave on La Setenta. Compared to Eslabon Prendido, it has better music, much more space, and is safer to leave from late at night. IMO it's every big as good as some of the legendary Cali discotecas. It's good Wed - Sat.

Las Americas the strip club on the "centro strip" which has been closed for several months and has had a for sale sign on the door, was open today. That is the door was open and looking inside you can see major renovations taking place, they nuked the inside. There are going to lots of "hot buns" in the new place, even "takeout". It is going to open as a panaderia, spanish for bakery, so the neighbours told me.

[QUOTE=Combo;1474581]If you like Salsa, I highly recommend El Suave on La Setenta. Compared to Eslabon Prendido, it has better music, much more space, and is safer to leave from late at night. IMO it's every big as good as some of the legendary Cali discotecas. It's good Wed - Sat.[/QUOTE]Excellent. Thanks.

Here you go. [url]http://medellinliving.com/nightlife/[/url]

"That's gold, Jerry, Gold!"

It looks like I may have to spend a few nights outside of the Hotel Medellin due to availabilty.

Reading the Medellin hotels forum, I can't decide the next best hotel outside of Medellin for newbie mongering, any suggestions what is the next best after Hotel Medellin for beginners?

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1472618]TravelGuy99:

Don't worry about any gorditas with big asses and tits. You will be in skinny-bytch heaven at the mansion. That's mostly what the owners there like and invite over, which is why I haven't been back.

A lot of the questions you are asking have been answered a million times already. Just read some of the recent reports and go back to posts between the 2011-2012 time frame.

I have been to the DR 6 time and trust me when I tell you there is very little comparison; like apples to oranges. You are talking about D'Latins which is in Sosua, and Medellin is nothing like Sosua.

BUT: Liquid Lounge would be very similar to D'Latins. But as you can see from the few reports about the place it still has not gotten off the ground just yet. Most guys go there and just end up leaving and walking over to Fase Dos (a strip club).

(The last Newsletter Liquid Lounge send out was muy caliente though.

Also, you probably do not want to be bringing any chica you met in Mayorista back to your hotel room. Use the short-term love motels in that area. Last thing you want is for her to relay to her "handlers" how rich you are (laptop, smartphone where you are staying, etc.).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bart1;1474587]Las Americas the strip club on the "centro strip" which has been closed for several months and has had a for sale sign on the door, was open today. That is the door was open and looking inside you can see major renovations taking place, they nuked the inside. [b]There are going to lots of "hot buns" in the new place, even "takeout". It is going to open as a panaderia, spanish for bakery[/b], so the neighbours told me.[/QUOTE]Good one, LOL!

[QUOTE=TravelGuy99; 1475450]"That's gold, Jerry, Gold!"

It looks like I may have to spend a few nights outside of the Hotel Medellin due to availabilty.

Reading the Medellin hotels forum, I can't decide the next best hotel outside of Medellin for newbie mongering, any suggestions what is the next best after Hotel Medellin for beginners?[/QUOTE][url]Www.colombiajake.com[/url] Plenty of help, or [url]www.pobladorentals.com[/url] Or any regular hotel [url]www.[/url] Bookings. Com then if you need it hire a guide, [url]https://www.facebook.com/jimmy.giraldo.77?hc_location=stream[/url]

Men I find it extremely fun to visit malls and even ride trains to meet non pros. Haha. I just go out with a light hearted attitude with no agenda with no goals but to talk to as many girls as possible, might get ignored alot but so what, it only takes one to put your mind in the right frame. And Ill take one of these girls out with the idea of cultivating a non pro, and of course ill hit the strip clubs or whatever after words. And the casas in the day.

[QUOTE=El Bacano;1476672]Men I find it extremely fun to visit malls and even ride trains to meet non pros. Haha. I just go out with a light hearted attitude with no agenda with no goals but to talk to as many girls as possible, might get ignored alot but so what, it only takes one to put your mind in the right frame. And Ill take one of these girls out with the idea of cultivating a non pro, and of course ill hit the strip clubs or whatever after words. And the casas in the day.[/QUOTE]Malls, metro, in street, in works like a charm.

I met my current girlfriend while she was waiting for the bus. I invited her to have cup of coffee. And then we became a couple.

Spanish is esential, but you don't have to be fluent, medium skills are good enough. Take some intense-courses at for ex. UPB, a week 4hs a day plus homework, it pays off!

Medellin does not have seasonal changes in day 7 Night-time, it is always 6am-6pm. In Scandinavia, Canada we enjoy having sun for 18-24hs a day during summertime.

So I think it is a waist of time being awake at late night, because you will sleep to 11am. 1pm and then you need food, shower, arrends, you miss 60% of those 12hs with sun.

Daytime fishing is a superb way of finding girls, but one have to be cautious not to offend people. But if you are an gentleman it's a least good a method as clubs and casas. And the excitement. It's wow, just meet a girl and everything can happen from cero to marriage.

[QUOTE=TweedleD; 1476278][url]Www.colombiajake.com[/url]

Plenty of help, or.

[url]www.pobladorentals.com[/url]

Or any regular hotel.

[url]www.[/url]

Bookings. Com then if you need it hire a guide,

[url]https://www.facebook.com/jimmy.giraldo.77?hc_location=stream[/url][/QUOTE]Note that Colombia jake is a shared unit. Jake and another guy stay in two of the three bedrooms. Jake is a nice guy and I like him but his setup is not for everyone.

Poblado rentals is mostly solid though I find the manager a bit quirky but manageable. I have new favorite place and I will post a link if anyone is interested in a bit fancy spot.

[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1477011]Note that Colombia jake is a shared unit. Jake and another guy stay in two of the three bedrooms. Jake is a nice guy and I like him but his setup is not for everyone.

Poblado rentals is mostly solid though I find the manager a bit quirky but manageable. I have new favorite place and I will post a link if anyone is interested in a bit fancy spot.[/QUOTE]I would love to know about the fancy spot. I was thinking of booking at the Mansion. But want to check the other alternatives as well.

Thanks

[QUOTE=PatCash;1477656]I would love to know about the fancy spot. I was thinking of booking at the Mansion. But want to check the other alternatives as well. Thanks[/QUOTE]This is my favourite place in MDE. Top end for one person but a great deal if you are sharing with one other and a steal if you are sharing with two.

[url]http://www.theapartmentmedellin.com/rentals/allrentals/penthouses-medellin-charming-split-level/[/url]

I find it interesting that some members here are hesitant to share information about favorite girls or favorite casas-things that anyone with a dollar in their pocket and one eye in a socket can see and have-but we are so cavalier about the whole fishing thing. Anyone with the skills and impetus knows how to approach regular girls. Do we need to tell every Gringo noob to hit on girls in the Centro? The Colombian men already fuck it up enough with their antics that make girls pass through the Centro like Jackie Joyner Kersee, now we need to stigmatize gringos (even further)?

Just my two cents on a recent trend here. If you need to be told to be charming and to speak the language, then no one should really tell you anything.

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1476679]Malls, metro, in street, in works like a charm.

I met my current girlfriend while she was waiting for the bus. I invited her to have cup of coffee. And then we became a couple.

Spanish is esential, but you don't have to be fluent, medium skills are good enough. Take some intense-courses at for ex. UPB, a week 4hs a day plus homework, it pays off!

Medellin does not have seasonal changes in day 7 Night-time, it is always 6am-6pm. In Scandinavia, Canada we enjoy having sun for 18-24hs a day during summertime.

So I think it is a waist of time being awake at late night, because you will sleep to 11am. 1pm and then you need food, shower, arrends, you miss 60% of those 12hs with sun.

Daytime fishing is a superb way of finding girls, but one have to be cautious not to offend people. But if you are an gentleman it's a least good a method as clubs and casas. And the excitement. It's wow, just meet a girl and everything can happen from cero to marriage.[/QUOTE]Rather than UPB [Universidad Pontificia Bolivariana] I have a 23 year old for a spanish teacher at least once a week 100k for 3 hrs at my place, less cost than one on one at UPB for 3 hours. We try to do 1 hour of spanish with an online spanish course I obtain free from my home town library, but sometimes we cut it a bit short for more funtime with the teacher. I also get to learn phrases like "you have beautiful nipples and they sure get hard when I lick them" which is far more useful than "where can I buy some oranges and what is the cost of a metro ticket" that the regular schools teach.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1478345]Rather than UPB [Universidad Pontificia Bolivariana] I have a 23 year old for a spanish teacher at least once a week 100k for 3 hrs at my place, less cost than one on one at UPB for 3 hours. We try to do 1 hour of spanish with an online spanish course I obtain free from my home town library, but sometimes we cut it a bit short for more funtime with the teacher. I also get to learn phrases like "you have beautiful nipples and they sure get hard when I lick them" which is far more useful than "where can I buy some oranges and what is the cost of a metro ticket" that the regular schools teach.[/QUOTE]Care to share contact info? I agree with you. A private, independent teacher is way better than doing classes at UPB or Eafit. You can do the class when it fits your schedule and you don't have to worry about the other students not being at your level. From what I understand, Eafit and UPB don't even guarantee that a class will run (if it doesn't get enough enrollees). It would suck to plan a trip down there and then have your class not run.

Sessioned with Susanna from the Paisascort website. Place was easy enough to find, close to the primera Parque Laureles. Not really her apartment but a shared thing were you are escorted to a room to wait. And wait. She was 15 minutes late getting to the room, hora latina I suppose but if I'm paying for it would be nice not to keep me waiting in a room.

A little thicker around the hips than it appears in the pictures and the boob job wasn't that great. Face looks older (mid 30s) but maybe that's just the life getting to her. Started with a massage that was mechanical and uncreative, finished with sex that was equally lousy. Doesn't kiss and wants to go straight to covered blowjob and sex.

Could add more detail but really don't think its worth it. Not worth even the lower price of $100k.

Might try a couple of the others from the site or bounce to another.

On a more positive note, have been to Conejitas a couple of times and sessioned with Luisa, a very skinny girl with a dragon tattoo on her back. Face isn't the prettiest but great attitude and very accommodative. I prefer the more discrete escorts with apartments but if you're around Conejitas, look her up.

Any reports on other escorts? Someone that at least pretends to enjoy themselves?

[QUOTE=Combo;1478387]Care to share contact info? I agree with you. A private, independent teacher is way better than doing classes at UPB or Eafit. You can do the class when it fits your schedule and you don't have to worry about the other students not being at your level. From what I understand, Eafit and UPB don't even guarantee that a class will run (if it doesn't get enough enrollees). It would suck to plan a trip down there and then have your class not run.[/QUOTE]Many of these UPB, Eafit, etc teachers will teach you in their spare time for $15-$20 / hr. You just have to go to the school and speak with the teachers. IMO it is better to go to the school and sit in an empty room with a chalkboard than learning from your house. Every 30-40 hours of classtime you should see improvement. If you have a month three days per week and three hours per day should get you to a basic foundation.

The website below has 1000's of popular English movies dubbed in Spanish. This is great for the girls that you like to spend time. Just connect your laptop to the TV with an HDMI cord. Great for Spanish practice, especially when you know the scenes of the movie, and for separating the rounds of sex with the girls. GL.

[url]http://www.peliculasmas.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=JoeInDsm; 1478468]Sessioned with Susanna from the Paisascort website. Place was easy enough to find, close to the primera Parque Laureles. Not really her apartment but a shared thing were you are escorted to a room to wait. And wait. She was 15 minutes late getting to the room, hora latina I suppose but if I'm paying for it would be nice not to keep me waiting in a room.

A little thicker around the hips than it appears in the pictures and the boob job wasn't that great. Face looks older (mid 30s) but maybe that's just the life getting to her. Started with a massage that was mechanical and uncreative, finished with sex that was equally lousy. Doesn't kiss and wants to go straight to covered blowjob and sex.

Could add more detail but really don't think its worth it. Not worth even the lower price of $100k.

Might try a couple of the others from the site or bounce to another.

On a more positive note, have been to Conejitas a couple of times and sessioned with Luisa, a very skinny girl with a dragon tattoo on her back. Face isn't the prettiest but great attitude and very accommodative. I prefer the more discrete escorts with apartments but if you're around Conejitas, look her up.

Any reports on other escorts? Someone that at least pretends to enjoy themselves?[/QUOTE]I don't use escorts for exactly that reason. No chance to see the real girl and no chance to break the ice. I have gotten recs from friends and they almost never pan out. I understand that the girl is going to be cautious when you have not met, with reason. At the same time, I don't want her to show up, be a bust and then demand a small or not so small pile of pesos. It's just not an ideal medium to me and I don't get why people continue to do things sight unseen in a city where it's not necessary. I see the appeal, but it just doesn't pan out, as I think you have found.

[QUOTE=Kelso1; 1478346]This brings me to make an observation that may not be too popular with some here, but here goes. Speaking of MDE I feel with this opening of the LL and all the Mansion girls there with their 150K price tag it is really going to make MDE not the place I knew and loved. Even now the Mayo girls (some) are asking 50K instead of the usual 30K. So these business men who are promoting all this 150K stuff are really going to bite us in the butt. Yeah I know some of you guys feel it is still a bargain compared to sex prison, but fuck that.

Go ahead boys fire away.[/QUOTE]I was at The Mansion a little over 2 years ago and it was 150mil then for 2-3 hours if you could keep them entertained. I don't think much has changed in the past 2 years. Many of the recent reports have stated great experiences from The Mansion girls as being hot and giving good service. As far as The Mayo goes IMO it is better to try to pull girls off the street in Centro or even do the daytime casas instead of going to The Mayo. 30 Centro Casas 200+ girls. 30K-38K 1/2 hour with facility included.

[QUOTE=Kelso1; 1478346]This brings me to make an observation that may not be too popular with some here, but here goes. Speaking of MDE I feel with this opening of the LL and all the Mansion girls there with their 150K price tag it is really going to make MDE not the place I knew and loved. Even now the Mayo girls (some) are asking 50K instead of the usual 30K. So these business men who are promoting all this 150K stuff are really going to bite us in the butt. Yeah I know some of you guys feel it is still a bargain compared to sex prison, but fuck that.

Go ahead boys fire away.[/QUOTE]You are comparing apples to oranges.

The guys that pay 150K are looking for something different than the guys that pay 30 to 50K in el centro. They are looking for pleasant company and a GFE in the bedroom. A lot of the guys that pay 300K for "todo la noche" are paying for a diversion and haven't resigned themselves to paying for every single piece of ass that they are ever going to get for the rest of their lives. So the service and experience is a lot more important than the price.

I have met a number of guys that do not like Mansion girls and the reason is simple. They aren't getting what they paid for. They are getting a straight up sex act that can be easily had in the casas for 100K less.

I rarely go to day time casas any more. Most of the time I can't even find one chick that I would pay to bang. Last time I went I saw a couple that I would have probably banged if they weren't charging and even when I do find one that stands out enough to attract my attention she usually sucks in the bedroom. Every now and then you will find one that has potential and you can get her phone number and meet her outside the place and turn the sex from mechanical to "I can't believe a prepago just fucked me that good" but that is rare and look at all the time involved.

Mayo can be a bargain and you can find a hottie that is half the price of the Mansion. But most of the time I find nada, zilch, nothing at all that interests me. So you have to ask yourself is a night of wacking off worth the risk. If I stayed in Medellin for months instead of weeks I would frequent Mayo more often. But it just isn't worth the trade off for me right now.

Hello everyone!

I am thinking of coming to Medellin for the first time at the end of the month. Pretty sure that I am going to stay at the Mansion. Actually, the punting options are pretty solid.

My question is actually on other stuff. I wanted to go to places like the Coffee region in the South, or the Pablo Escobar ruins in the east. I look at a map, and these things are like 100 miles away. And yet, the bus rides are all listed as like 5 hours! Why? Are the buses slow? Is traffic bad? Are the roads twisty mountain roads that you drive 10 MPH on? Would it help if I bought a car?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1479202]Hello everyone!

I am thinking of coming to Medellin for the first time at the end of the month. Pretty sure that I am going to stay at the Mansion. Actually, the punting options are pretty solid.

My question is actually on other stuff. I wanted to go to places like the Coffee region in the South, or the Pablo Escobar ruins in the east. I look at a map, and these things are like 100 miles away. And yet, the bus rides are all listed as like 5 hours! Why? Are the buses slow? Is traffic bad? Are the roads twisty mountain roads that you drive 10 MPH on? Would it help if I bought a car?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Yeah man the roads bro the roads. Plus the bus has to stop for everybody. As a first timer you'll have plenty to do in Medellin Proper, Pablo's grave is in Medellin, you can see where he was gunned down (so I've been told) and Rio Claro is just up the road a few hours vs 5, and so are the little pueblos where Paisas like to weekend.

JP

[QUOTE=TweedleD; 1476278][url]Www.colombiajake.com[/url]

Plenty of help, or.

[url]www.pobladorentals.com[/url]

Or any regular hotel.

[url]www.[/url]

Bookings. Com then if you need it hire a guide,

[url]https://www.facebook.com/jimmy.giraldo.77?hc_location=stream[/url][/QUOTE]At this time my place is solo! I changed the standard room to give guys a lot more room, and I'm running a October $75 a night special. Take a look at the bigger room on the ColombiaJake link above!

Thanks,

Jake

Just got back from my second trip to MDE. Seems like this trip was even better than the last one. I'll write a report later, but all I can say is wow. I should have returned to MDE sooner.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1479202]Hello everyone!

I am thinking of coming to Medellin for the first time at the end of the month. Pretty sure that I am going to stay at the Mansion. Actually, the punting options are pretty solid.

My question is actually on other stuff. I wanted to go to places like the Coffee region in the South, or the Pablo Escobar ruins in the east. I look at a map, and these things are like 100 miles away. And yet, the bus rides are all listed as like 5 hours! Why? Are the buses slow? Is traffic bad? Are the roads twisty mountain roads that you drive 10 MPH on? Would it help if I bought a car?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Prepare to spend 4++ hours on the bus each direction for these far away excusions. The roads are mountainous and winding. It is better to do the coffee region when you have 2+ days and check out Manizales, Periera, Armenia, etc. For a guy staying at The Mansion this would not be recommended.

I would recommend Lake Guatape. If you leave in the morning you can be back for the evening. Guatape is only 2 hours by bus out of The North Bus Terminal.

Based in San Javier,"Comuna 13", x-paramilitarians and "campesinos" without ability or will to integrate into the normal social life now has become a plague for Medellin. My friend that works for the MDE Municipality told me that even Exito and big companies pays for "protection". Police and military fights on, but getting rid of the problem would almost be to start a strong military offensive amongst civilians. Behind a frontline in San Javier the power is the Gangs, well trained and with long experience of military service, the FED, Police and militaries can't beat them.

I have friends that runs small business that had confirmed this in confidence. Pay or get wacked!

So the award "The Most Innovative City In The World" by Wall Street Journal / Citicroup didn't do them homework to well. There are still a lot of fear amongst people and gang criminality is rising rapidly again in MDE.

The Maniacs that runs those criminal gangs will never adapt to society. During an half-informal peacetalk between with a group of gang-leaders and represants from the authorities, one gangster just pick up his gun, shot the guy next to him, put down the gun, all in a blick on an eye, and then continued the conversation that nothing had happend. This is part of the real life in MDE that tourists know little about, but once accepted as more than a tourist, people has started telling me thing that are horrible that goes on in a scale that we foreigners from the 1st world can not imagine.

A human life is still not worth much in Colombia.

Extreme inequality in incomes and possibility are the 10th worst in the world, only is it worse in 9 African countries according to cia. Gov / factbook. In spite of the "success" with Plan Colombia" and Uribe's huge popularity, he or his generals authorised the killing of peasants and nameing them FARC-member, in Colombia commonly known as "falsas progresivas".

Medellíand has now the reputation of being an super-innovative and business friendly city, the best in Latinamerica. But it is still very dangerous.

Respect for a human life is still on a 3 world level.

[QUOTE=Vegas Jeff; 1479247]Prepare to spend 4++ hours on the bus each direction for these far away excusions. The roads are mountainous and winding. It is better to do the coffee region when you have 2+ days and check out Manizales, Periera, Armenia, etc. For a guy staying at The Mansion this would not be recommended.

I would recommend Lake Guatape. If you leave in the morning you can be back for the evening. Guatape is only 2 hours by bus out of The North Bus Terminal.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the replies everyone.

So if its the roads, I presume that renting a car wouldn't help much. And visiting Zona Cafetera would have to be an overnighter. If that's correct, then that's too bad.

As much as the nightlife is in Medellin, it doesn't seem like there is much to do in the daytime. I bought a conventional Lonely Planet tourist book, and its zippo.

BTW, what's the best way to get to the Mansion from the airport. Taxi? Subway?

Thanks,

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1479488]Thanks for the replies everyone.

So if its the roads, I presume that renting a car wouldn't help much. And visiting Zona Cafetera would have to be an overnighter. If that's correct, then that's too bad.

As much as the nightlife is in Medellin, it doesn't seem like there is much to do in the daytime. I bought a conventional Lonely Planet tourist book, and its zippo.

BTW, what's the best way to get to the Mansion from the airport. Taxi? Subway?

Thanks, [/QUOTE][url]Http://www.colombiaconnects.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1479497][url]Http://www.colombiaconnects.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the response, but $45 seems a bit steep. Is there a better value option? I am assuming that a cab costs more. No train? No buses?

It amuses me when "some" guys complain off bad sessions and or its the girls fault, when in fact the guys "carnt fuck properly" smell, got shit all up there back, are over weight and are just gross pigs.

Aussie Greg.

Take a ADA flight from the airport in town, your in Pereira in 35 minutes and then taxi to Chinchina "the center of the coffee in Colombia" and after lunch go to the Termales at Santa Rosa de Cabal, you will be back in Medellin before dark.

Most of the guys here on this board have not been outside of Poblado! To scared!

A. G.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1479202]Hello everyone!

I am thinking of coming to Medellin for the first time at the end of the month. Pretty sure that I am going to stay at the Mansion. Actually, the punting options are pretty solid.

My question is actually on other stuff. I wanted to go to places like the Coffee region in the South, or the Pablo Escobar ruins in the east. I look at a map, and these things are like 100 miles away. And yet, the bus rides are all listed as like 5 hours! Why? Are the buses slow? Is traffic bad? Are the roads twisty mountain roads that you drive 10 MPH on? Would it help if I bought a car?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cali Hentai;1429671]Staying at a low end Motel in Mayorista or living it up at the Mansion. It's all good.[/QUOTE]Would you please give me some information about The Mansion?

Aussie, looking forward to my stay at the mansion mid October. I too wonder how someone can post how terrible the woman are yet the vast majority of guys are amazed?

Orgasmo: Any recent info you can provide with a report would be great timing.

For the curious, I started fb about 3 months ago and have 100+ contacts. Will report how the fb thing goes compared to Mansion girls. Most know of the Mansion, but glad to report there are more pickings to be had then what shows up at the Mansion.

My bad for calling it the Mansion, just known it as that for all to long on these boards.

Liquid lounge should have strip club open within weeks. Just passing on what I heard.

Jet

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1479349]Based in San Javier,"Comuna 13", x-paramilitarians and "campesinos" without ability or will to integrate into the normal social life now has become a plague for Medellin. My friend that works for the MDE Municipality told me that even Exito and big companies pays for "protection". Police and military fights on, but getting rid of the problem would almost be to start a strong military offensive amongst civilians. Behind a frontline in San Javier the power is the Gangs, well trained and with long experience of military service, the FED, Police and militaries can't beat them.

I have friends that runs small business that had confirmed this in confidence. Pay or get wacked!

So the award "The Most Innovative City In The World" by Wall Street Journal / Citicroup didn't do them homework to well. There are still a lot of fear amongst people and gang criminality is rising rapidly again in MDE.

The Maniacs that runs those criminal gangs will never adapt to society. During an half-informal peacetalk between with a group of gang-leaders and represants from the authorities, one gangster just pick up his gun, shot the guy next to him, put down the gun, all in a blick on an eye, and then continued the conversation that nothing had happend. This is part of the real life in MDE that tourists know little about, but once accepted as more than a tourist, people has started telling me thing that are horrible that goes on in a scale that we foreigners from the 1st world can not imagine.

A human life is still not worth much in Colombia.

Extreme inequality in incomes and possibility are the 10th worst in the world, only is it worse in 9 African countries according to cia. Gov / factbook. In spite of the "success" with Plan Colombia" and Uribe's huge popularity, he or his generals authorised the killing of peasants and nameing them FARC-member, in Colombia commonly known as "falsas progresivas".

Medellíand has now the reputation of being an super-innovative and business friendly city, the best in Latinamerica. But it is still very dangerous.

Respect for a human life is still on a 3 world level.[/QUOTE]This pretty well known information and yet another reason that the danger in Colombia is exponentially higher for the average Colombian than it is for a tourist. The "duros" come in many forms, but one way or another you've got some form of organized crime running the neighborhoods in ways that governments cannot or at least do not. You also have a lot of chickenhawking going on with younger kids and preying on women. Many problems remain, which is another reason to bring only good energy.