Adelita Bar Reports

[QUOTE=BowHuntMopar]I do not give a tip unless it is worth it .... so like I initially said, $60 is still a bargain.

In addition, I don't buy any flowers & sip the beer by the spoonful to prevent the harrassment from the waiters.

This used to be a decent sight to compare the ladies at the AB. .... Now, it seems like members of this board use this forum to slam others. [/QUOTE]
Your reports were good and appreciated. Don't worry about a bit of criticism. You know many guys here remember back only a few years ago when it was easy to get an AB girl to go upstairs for $40. So, $60 [b]plus a tip[/b] seems high to many of us especially for frequent or long time TJ mongers. The important thing is you knew what you wanted to pay and stuck to your budget, That's fine. A recurring theme on almost every board is inflation.

You are right that the board has declined in sharing specific details (girl's names and ratings) in recent years, so your details are especially appreciated.

[QUOTE]I always tip from $10 to $40 and the gossip always goes around regarding the big spenders & the cheap a$$es who won't even buy a drink. Girls see it and pay special attention.[/QUOTE]
Frankly, I haven't found this to be the case at all. But then I am a cheap a$$. Again, this board is about sharing ideas and the facts of mongering in TJ, so disagreement is cool as long as it remains civil, which I think it has on the TJ boards.

Post more and best wishes.

I only tip an AB girl if she gives me anal. I like surprises and that is one of my favorites. Othwerwise, I only pay what I asked for up front and most of the time, IF you are lucky, you get what you ask for, especially if it is from one of the putas from HC. Also, always remember to treat the putas with respect. These wh**es don't like it when you disrepect them so if you want anal, dive in with your finger first. It is the polite thing to do.

Well I did another trip south of the border and had a better time. I took Etaoin's advice and it was all smooth. Thanks dude! I owe you a corona! Adelitas was semi crowded and the usuals to be seen. I took the blond with the big melons upstairs then chilled with a few beers. I had the munchies so I went and had two tacos. Felt like walking so I marched down the alley and saw Elizabeth. She was nice so I talked to her for a while. Once I decided to do the deed she asked me what hotel. This told me she was a newbie. Anyway there's a big diference between the alley girls and AB ones.

Be safe!

[Felt like walking so I marched down the alley and saw Elizabeth. She was nice so I talked to her for a while. Once I decided to do the deed she asked me what hotel. This told me she was a newbie. Anyway there's a big diference between the alley girls and AB ones]

Is she back?? Which Elizabeth in the Alley are you talking about because there are two. The one I am looking for works in front of hotel mini. Can you please describe her?

[QUOTE=Sabor] Anyway there's a big diference between the alley girls and AB ones.

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You're right about that!

The alley girls are cold dead fish, they want money for any extras like touching here or there, they have too many "NO" in the list, one time this girl told me not to touch the condom with my hands because I was leaving germs on it, what a fu..ing waste of time and money!
These alley girls are very mechanical, a lot worse then AB girls.
I think the zona in general is a rip off, overpriced, they can read "dumb" on our forehead an easy target for money!


Someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong? Because everytime I go to the zona I do 3 pops or 1 hour and 20 min, a few drinks, a vitamin C, taxi round trip, a lousy snack and my total damage runs about $300 every visit , and I do negotiate, don't drink much or buy fichas, I only tip the waiter and play by the rules.
If you ask me ,I think you can find better service back in the states from an escort for the same amount of dough, and don't have to wait in line to return home or worry about dirty TJ cops. just a thought!

My first time I really took a trip just for "pay for play" was to T. J. This site is what got me intested in it. And I felt like I had enough info to try it out. Since I went to las vegas 5 or 6 times a year. I said what the hell, rent a car and go to the boarder. I to had some of the same thoughts as you. Alley girls to many rules, dead fish. But out of maybe 8 alley girls I would find 2 that would give me a good time. I look at it like going fishing. You really have no ideal what is going to happen. As far as the ab girls. Same deal! Hit and miss. I had my best girl in the most unlikly places. A street hawker got me to go up about 100 steps and I walked into a bar where I was the only guy in there (about 3 in the afternoon) and a pretty hot girl comes up to me and begs me to take her. I tried to walk away but she dosnt let me. So I say I only want a BJ. She says fine. After about 2 mins in this little room she says "mexican woman love to fuck" and gets on top of me and rides like something I have never seen" a fuck I will never forget. Can't remember what we agree on but I gave her 40. 00 it was worth 10 times that amout. But I payed 50. 00 where it was worth zero! Anyway I found san jose Costa Rica and T. J. Isn't on my interest chart anymore and nither is vegas. My trips are less (I spend about 2000. 00 on each trip which lasts for 8 days) but I go 3 or 4 times a year. T. J for me, taught me the ropes and I learned about being safe and keep everything on the down low. So T. J. Is what it is. And you can say the same about san jose. But I have had great girls in san jose and I have had some bad ones. But there are many many more to chose from in san jose and many M. P. "S. So as my trips increase I learn where to go. Who to see. And what not to do.

On Jan. 4, I took a trip down to TJ. As you may know, the presidente sent in troops that day. It rained that evening as I made my journey down from OC.

I parked in my usual $8 border parking lot. The normal amount of vehicles were not present. It was a bit eerie as it was very quiet in the area.

Crossed the border, and headed to the taxi stand. The usual crowd of taxi drivers that would greet in the incoming gringos were not present. I continued walking to the area were the taxis were parked under the canopy. Noticed many taxi drivers were huddled in front of a tv. They were watching the news tenaciously. One spotted me, and asked if I needed a ride. Off we went.

The ride was uneventful. In fact, it seemed TJ had turned into a ghost town. No persons were out and about, very little cars on the road, and no police to be seen. Arrived at AD.

Scoped the place out for 30 minutes. Few lookers. Selection was very limited. Decided to go to the Chicago Club. Hung out for about an hour there, however, did not see anything I liked, so I headed back to AD.

In AD, I pulled a blonde from the floor. Did the do upstairs. Nothing unusual, it was routine nut. Went and ate some tacos on the corner.

[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]You're right about that!

The alley girls are cold dead fish, they want money for any extras like touching here or there, they have too many "NO" in the list, one time this girl told me not to touch the condom with my hands because I was leaving germs on it, what a fu..ing waste of time and money!
These alley girls are very mechanical, a lot worse then AB girls.
I think the zona in general is a rip off, overpriced, they can read "dumb" on our forehead an easy target for money!


Someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong? Because everytime I go to the zona I do 3 pops or 1 hour and 20 min, a few drinks, a vitamin C, taxi round trip, a lousy snack and my total damage runs about $300 every visit , and I do negotiate, don't drink much or buy fichas, I only tip the waiter and play by the rules.
If you ask me ,I think you can find better service back in the states from an escort for the same amount of dough, and don't have to wait in line to return home or worry about dirty TJ cops. just a thought![/QUOTE]

Interesting......$300 for a 3pop, Vits, food, cervesa, propinas and taxi. It does sound like a lot.

First, the girls. They ain't as stoopid as people think. They know that there will be a never ending supply of customers so why care? That's why relationships are everything when doing business in Mexico, even in the Zona.

Expect to get whacked on your first encounter if you don;t fix the deal on the street and are nice about it. Can you get the girl to lighten up when you talk to her on the street? Can you get her comfortable? Do you behave like the last guy she talked to? Maybe he was a jerk.

Remember, even though you are paying the girl, you want her to have sex with you - that's mighty intimate. If she's cold on the street she's going to be cold in the room. That's where the "game" element comes in. You don't want her to love you, you want her to fuck you and be nice about it.

Chicas are people too. Yeah, there all kinds of reasons why they are there, but they are THERE. If you can't get a warm vibe on the street, work the entire deal out and be on your way within 60 seconds then you need to develope that talent, if the girl is the problem, move on. If you find a warm one you'll find your sessions getting much more enjoyable as you repeat.

One reason why some are so cold on the street is because their boyfriend or husband is looking on and they don;t want him to see her warming up to another guy, so be cool.

I have a tendency to go on and on and on, so I'll cut this short.

You should itemize your expenses, see where the money went. It does seem like a lot. I've had superb sessions with girls in the alley. I love the latinas. I am always surprised to hear such negative reactions to the girls who post inthe alley. I'm much more used to hearing it from guys who hit up Adelitas.

Be safe and be nice
Country John

[QUOTE=Country John]Interesting......$300 for a 3pop, Vits, food, cervesa, propinas and taxi. It does sound like a lot.Country John[/QUOTE]

CJ,
Let's do the math:

3 AB girls x $60= $180 total time 1 hour and ??minutes.
5 beers for me= $18.75
Waiter tip total= $5.00
Hotel Coahila x3 times= $36 xtra towells= $2.00
Cumboy tip= $4.00
Taxi round trip= $10.00
snack/food =$7.00
Vitamin C = $13.50
Border Parking= $8.00
full tank gas 4 cyl pick up round trip = $45.00 not included.
Alley girls are cheaper, but you get what you pay for!


This is not a big deal for a once a year TJ visitor, but it sucks for the weekend monger!
And yes, you can build a friendly relationship with a girl, but in the long term will cost you much more $$$.
I did that once and I lost 250.00 for the same shit I get in AB for 60, going out with her I had to pay for all kind of shit, like phone cards, food, fancy hotel, room service etc, after 1hour in the room 1 pop she was gone couldn't stay.

If you're too nice with them like I'm always, you can be taking for a ride!
I'm so disapointed with some of the zona girls both alley and AB, they have a fu..ing attitude when in the room, which does not show when making the deal, so this is like fishing, you never know what you gonna catch.

[QUOTE=Country John].
They have a "cargo" to meet for the club (which is about $75.00 a night) so they are all business. The first session is for the club, the rest of the night belongs to them.

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Are you alluding to the so called ficha quota system? If so my understanding is that it doesn't involve an actual cash outlay from the chicas. The high volume chicas ie those who make many trips upstairs are expected to turn in a certain amount of drink fichas. I've seen the doormen demanding that they show the number of fichas that they have. Of course if they can't get their clientes to buy them drinks then they would have to come up with them some other way.

[QUOTE=Sabor]Well I did another trip south of the border and had a better time. I took Etaoin's advice and it was all smooth. Thanks dude! I owe you a corona! Adelitas was semi crowded and the usuals to be seen. I took the blond with the big melons upstairs then chilled with a few beers. I had the munchies so I went and had two tacos. Felt like walking so I marched down the alley and saw Elizabeth. She was nice so I talked to her for a while. Once I decided to do the deed she asked me what hotel. This told me she was a newbie. Anyway there's a big diference between the alley girls and AB ones.

Be safe![/QUOTE]Is Elizabeth back? She is my favorite and has been on vacation for a few weeks. I know there are at least two in the alley. The one I'm looking for works in front of hotel mini. Can you please provide a physical description of the Elizabeth you were with?

[QUOTE=Reinaldo]Are you alluding to the so called ficha quota system? If so my understanding is that it doesn't involve an actual cash outlay from the chicas. The high volume chicas ie those who make many trips upstairs are expected to turn in a certain amount of drink fichas. I've seen the doormen demanding that they show the number of fichas that they have. Of course if they can't get their clientes to buy them drinks then they would have to come up with them some other way.[/QUOTE]

Yes. That is exactly right. They can have a "balance forward" from the previous night(s) also. If they fall behind consistently, they're not allowed on the floor.

Country John

[QUOTE=HornyTraveler]CJ,
Let's do the math:

3 AB girls x $60= $180 total time 1 hour and ??minutes.
5 beers for me= $18.75
Waiter tip total= $5.00
Hotel Coahila x3 times= $36 xtra towells= $2.00
Cumboy tip= $4.00
Taxi round trip= $10.00
snack/food =$7.00
Vitamin C = $13.50
Border Parking= $8.00
full tank gas 4 cyl pick up round trip = $45.00 not included.
Alley girls are cheaper, but you get what you pay for!


This is not a big deal for a once a year TJ visitor, but it sucks for the weekend monger!
And yes, you can build a friendly relationship with a girl, but in the long term will cost you much more $$$.
I did that once and I lost 250.00 for the same shit I get in AB for 60, going out with her I had to pay for all kind of shit, like phone cards, food, fancy hotel, room service etc, after 1hour in the room 1 pop she was gone couldn't stay.

If you're too nice with them like I'm always, you can be taking for a ride!
I'm so disapointed with some of the zona girls both alley and AB, they have a fu..ing attitude when in the room, which does not show when making the deal, so this is like fishing, you never know what you gonna catch.[/QUOTE]

The math makes sense. I missed that you did AB girls three times, so I get it now. Well, considering the entertainment value that is missing from the equation, the numbers make sense.

You see, I was dropping alomost $2,000 a month in the Zona. That's why I retired and now live in TJ three or four days a week with a live-in who gets a healthy $200 a week allowance. Of course I pay rent, utils etc but I'm setting up businesses there and I'd be paying that anyway. I wouldn;t want to be paying that plus the $2k in the Zona.

I guess the point I was trying to make was that doing repeats with the alley girls can save a lot of money. Of course you need to find one you like then develop her.

I'm not certain you would have had the opportunity to have the same entertainment value Stateside for the money you spent. Where would you do that?

Country John

Hi guys,

I moved from SDiego 7yrs ago and decided to visit TJ and see what's going on there. I post in Asia section, but am visiting SD.

1st stop - Club Amnesia
WTF is this! Buy me drink girls $8 door fee. $500 for VIP room! I didn't have to cross the border for this shit. This is an experiment gone horribly wrong. How long has this place been here? It was rather empty with clients.

2nd stop -Chicago
Same old Chicago. Rather empty too. Selection is horrible.
Two stupid old chicas approach me and my homie. I actually had to hold back the puke due the out of control makeup job on one of em..

3rd stop- Hong Kong
Seems like TJ is goin thru a make over. Terra Cotta tiles all over the place. Actual sidewalks now. Same deal with Hong Kong bar. Nicely redone and a few nice chicas. I don't even know if HK is P4P. It never was before and we just moved on.

4th Andelitas
Andelitas is gone upscale too eh. There was never hip-hop played there b4. I can't believe how many men are milling around. Is it always this way? The place used to overflow with talent. There were only a few hotties I would take out. But after Thai, Phils and Indonesia, I was hesitant paying so much money for a rush job upstairs.

In the end I took a $20 girl from outside, but same old rush job, she wanted more money to show her tits..yada-yada.

You border mongers can have TJ. It is worse than it used to be. Old timers know the diff. Cops out of control too!

Adios Mexico

[QUOTE=MrCuddles]Hi guys,

I moved from SDiego 7yrs ago and decided to visit TJ and see what's going on there. I post in Asia section, but am visiting SD.

1st stop - Club Amnesia
WTF is this! Buy me drink girls $8 door fee. $500 for VIP room! I didn't have to cross the border for this shit. This is an experiment gone horribly wrong. How long has this place been here? It was rather empty with clients.

2nd stop -Chicago
Same old Chicago. Rather empty too. Selection is horrible.
Two stupid old chicas approach me and my homie. I actually had to hold back the puke due the out of control makeup job on one of em..

3rd stop- Hong Kong
Seems like TJ is goin thru a make over. Terra Cotta tiles all over the place. Actual sidewalks now. Same deal with Hong Kong bar. Nicely redone and a few nice chicas. I don't even know if HK is P4P. It never was before and we just moved on.

4th Andelitas
Andelitas is gone upscale too eh. There was never hip-hop played there b4. I can't believe how many men are milling around. Is it always this way? The place used to overflow with talent. There were only a few hotties I would take out. But after Thai, Phils and Indonesia, I was hesitant paying so much money for a rush job upstairs.

In the end I took a $20 girl from outside, but same old rush job, she wanted more money to show her tits..yada-yada.

You border mongers can have TJ. It is worse than it used to be. Old timers know the diff. Cops out of control too!

Adios Mexico[/QUOTE]

You're right...sure has changed in the Zona. Forget clubs on Revolution. It's for those who don;t know where the Zona is.

Anyone who has been to SEA has the same opinion. I have a very good friend moving to Thailand this week. KNow why? He used to live in TJ.

Adelitas is a fuck factory and not a very good one at that. The problem has been that people will just pay and go up. The thought of boycotting is rediculous.

Getting service in the Zona is getting a bit more difficult if you don't have a lot of experience there, or have a regular that gives you good service.

It's a "sellers market" in the Zona. Too bad. But guys just keep on being stupid, and paying the high prices.

Country John