Advice from Freiersein.de
This is a set of fair play rules found on the above website which is run by prostitution organizations. The rules deal with how to interact with the women and get the most of the experience.
It is written in English and Spanish.
[quote=Freiersein.de]FairPlay
Don’t shoot an own goal.
To make sex with a sex worker more enjoyable and fun, keep the following guidelines in mind:
1) Politeness, respect and a pleasant appearance will open many doors – and more.
2) Alcohol may help you overcome your fears, but it also affects your ability to keep it up. In other words: The less you drink the more fun you’ll have..
3) A man keeps his word. Be clear from the start about what you want and what it will cost. It prevents disappointment in the long run.
4) No means no. For example, tongue play while kissing is usually out of bounds. Every business has its limits..
5) With a condom, or with a condom – the choice is yours. Black, green, blue, ribbed or with pleasure bumps – take your pick. Not using a condom, however, is a major foul.
6) If you suspect violence or force is being used, what should you do? Don’t try to be a hero. Find out where the nearest hotline is for sex workers, for example at [url]www.freiersein.de[/url]..
7) Business is business – and not love, even if your time together was wonderful. That means: Stay cool and keep your feet on the ground.
8) Pressure doesn’t help performance. Sometimes it just doesn’t work. That’s ok. Just relax and, when the time’s right, give it another go.
9) When it comes to sex, there’s no money-back guarantee. If you’re not satisfied, talk about it. If you’re smart, you won’t lose your head. Whatever happens, don’t demand your money back.
10) The neighbors want to get some sleep and are not interested in your sex life. Really.[/quote]
Using this FAQ section effectively
How about we compile the most frequently asked questions about Germany and create a definitive FAQ which we can then periodically refresh and repost so that we don't end up side tracking the discussions on the individual club forums?
It doesn't really matter who does this. As new questions are added and compiled, the entire FAQ text gets updated and then reposted. That will keep it current.
Then when newbies ask basic questions, we simply refer them to the current version of the FAQ. If I billed by the hour answering questions on the forum I'd be a very wealthy person for all of the time I've invested in answering newbie questions.
Why keep reinventing the wheel each time these questions are asked?
Any thoughts?
The FAQ would consist of questions relating to:
1) Standard operating procedure upon entering a club
2) Club etiquette
3) The dress (or rather undress) code
4) Animieren and how to deal with it
5) How to check for chemistry with a chick
6) Etc..
I'd leave club specific information for the individual club threads. This would include directions, opening hours, hotel recommendations, etc..
I'll find the current RF FKK club FAQ, adapt it and then we can perform edits. I'll label it Version 1.1
The next time a basic question is asked we can then reply: "RTFFAQ!"
FKK Club FAQ, version 1.0
Here is my first attempt at creating an FAQ for newbies to address the questions they most often pose on this forum. Some of these topics I took from an FAQ which Kaleu developed a while back.
This will save us on time and minimize clutter. We find ourselves answering the same questions over and over again if you’ve noticed.
The next time they ask a question which is answered below, simply point them at this post if not at the search function (which works very well, by the way).
I don’t think this FAQ should be longer than 25 questions. I can, as well, go on and on about some of these topics but in the interest of brevity hit only the salient points.
Please feel free to edit and repost this as necessary. To indicate a new version of the FAQ, just change the version number.
This general FAQ is meant to answer only general questions about club visits. Ideally each club should have its own FAQ.
1) [b]Which FKK clubs should I visit?[/b]
First of all get a map of Germany. This activity is available just about anywhere in Germany but there are two [i]Laender[/i] with the highest concentration of [b]destination[/b] clubs: Hessen and NRW (Nordrhein Westfalen). These are the best known clubs which draw a worldwide clientele.
If you are in Bayern, do go and visit ColA in Augsburg, z. B. but there aren’t many individuals who will cross the pond to visit just that one club. As a rule, clubs below the [i]Weisswurstaequator[/i], are more expensive and don’t offer the same level of services.
If you scan the number of posts for each individual club thread under this forum you will also get an idea of which clubs are most visited by ISG Forumler. These clubs will satisfy the needs of most non-German speaking individuals.
2) [b]What does FKK mean? [/b]
FKK stands for Freikoerper-Kultur or literally free body culture. In other words, nude.
3) [b]What are the differences between an FKK club and a Saunaclub? [/b]
At FKK clubs the female guests are expected to be in the nude except for footwear. The idea is that they are there to provide eye candy for the male guests. At Saunaclubs the women wear bikinis or lingerie. Note than some FKK clubs occasionally have dessous day when the women all wear lingerie.
4) [b]Why visit an FKK club and not patronize the RLD, the street or escort scene or strip clubs?[/b]
FKK clubs address safety, security and selection issues. The alternatives can be dangerous and there is no institutional framework for dealing with complaints and/or customer service issues. Pricing for services at an FKK club is meant to be standardized and need not be negotiated. The biggest inconvenience of visiting the RLD is that every single aspect of her service must be negotiated in advance. Strip clubs have been known to pull 300 Euro bottle of champagne scams. Included in the entrance fee for an FKK club is food and drink plus use of the sauna and other facilities. Individual women are paid directly for services provided. They are not employees of these clubs.
5) [b]What is a Partytreff? [/b]
Partytreffs or Pauschalpreisclubs offer unlimited sex for one flat fee. The idea is that you need only pay once and never have to open your wallet again. In exchange, you can theoretically have as much sex as you want with whoever you want during your stay. They also usually provide food and drink plus use of sauna and other facilities. Mostly everything is done out in the open at these clubs.
6) [b]What can I expect during my first visit to an FKK club? [/b]
Upon entering a club you will be greeted by a Thekenfrau or (in the more traditional FKK clubs, by a nude woman) who will ask if you have been there before, take your entrance fee, hand you a towel and your locker key and point you in the direction of the lockers. There you undress, shower and wrap yourself in a towel. A bathrobe is sometimes provided, too. If you’ve not been to the club before everything will be explained to you: where the showers, toilet and sauna are, where you can find food and drink and the pricing policy for individual services. Food and drink are usually available. Sometimes alcoholic drinks are available (mostly beer).
Legitimate massages are sometimes available depending on the schedule of the masseur/masseuse. Sometimes sex with the masseuse is also possible.
If the club allows [i]animieren[/i], you will be approached by the women to ask if you want company. If the club does not allow it, you will need to do the approaching as the women aren’t allowed to do any direct marketing. Some guests prefer that the women take the initiative. Others think it’s a pain in the ass.
If your test for chemistry with her works out, you can then invite her to a room and do the nasty deed. At some clubs public activity is considered normal and you can have some or all of your session on the couch where you sit or on any available flat surface. At other clubs there is no activity which takes place in full view of others. At some clubs there are [i]Kinos[/i] where semi-public activity takes place routinely.
Each club has its own individual sub-culture and sometimes club-specific rules of etiquette. One acquires a feel for this by visiting several clubs and taking note of these individual differences.
7) [b]When am I committed to a session with her? [/b]
The rule is that once her mouth makes contact with your member you are committed to her. Some girls will insist that once you make any contact with her (your lips lock, z. B.) you are committed but this isn’t normal.
8) [b]When does the clock start ticking? [/b]
Normally the clock starts ticking once you are in the room. However, clocks are usually nowhere to be found at these clubs. The one exception is Cocoon which has a clock in each room.
Some women are strict clock watchers, others are not. If your chemistry with her is right, she will bend the rules in your favor.
9) [b]Is BBBJ standard? [/b]
Yes, it is except in Bayern where the women are fined if they provide these services as the local authorities consider it an unsafe practice.
10) [b]When do I settle my bill? [/b]
Each club has its own rules. Some require that you pay each woman after each session in which case you will both walk over to your locker and you will settle your bill immediately. At other clubs you will settle your bill as you leave.
11) [b]Should I give her a tip? [/b]
The answer to this question is no. Service rates are considered all inclusive. If you are happy with her services book either an extended session with her or ask her for extras. Otherwise you risk upsetting the price structure.
12) [b]What is a normal range for fees? [/b]
Each club is different but in general entrance fees run about 50 Euros (higher for certain clubs). Thirty minute sessions usually run about 50 Euros and include BBBJ and standard services. Extras (anal, CIM, z. B. as well as special requests) will cost more. Extensions beyond thirty minutes tend to be cheaper in NRW than down in Hessen.
13) [b]Is kissing standard? [/b]
Yes, usually it is. In case of doubt, do ask. Some women just won’t do it. As a rule Partytreffs women don’t kiss.
14) [b]Where else can I do research on these clubs? [/b]
The web has dedicated forums in French, Dutch and German (what is called the RF) where individual clubs are discussed.
15) [b]Will I need a car to visit these clubs? [/b]
Most clubs are accessible via a combination of public transportation and taxi. Having a car adds flexibility to your trip planning and cuts down on travel time but is not always necessary.
The link to German Rail is [url]www.db.de[/url].
If you are researching public transportation in NRW, the following link is useful: [url]www.vrr.de[/url].
16) [b]Can I be refused entry or services? [/b]
Yes, it happens every now and then. The explanation usually given is that the club is full and that there aren’t any more lockers. As to whether it has to do with racial profiling is open to speculation. Have a back up plan. Best of all, vote with your feet and your Euros.
Individual girls are under no obligation to provide you with services, by the way. To minimize this chance, shower upon entering the club and after every session and do pay attention to your grooming. They would prefer that you not smell of anything, have clean teeth, a fresh breath and be clean shaven. Clip your fingernails short and file sharp edges.
17) [b]Can I get by as an English only speaker? [/b]
Normally yes. The clubs and the women want your money. If you want full participation in everything going on around you including the banter which takes place between the staff, the women and the other guests, German is indispensible. The most spoken languages at these clubs are actually Polish, Romanian, Russian and Turkish.
18) [b]What is the typical selection of women like? [/b]
Given a choice between working in an RLD or the street, most women would prefer to work at these clubs. They are safer and it is a more pleasant working environment. That having been said, they are usually of better quality than can be found elsewhere.
All of Eastern Europe is usually represented and a good club has a good selection of everything: blondes, brunettes, red heads but also black and Asian women. All sorts of body types will be represented too. The best clubs have mostly women in their early twenties. One shouldn’t, however, be dismissive of clubs with older women ([i]Hobbyhuren[/i])just because the selection is older.
19) [b]Are the women trafficked? [/b]
Prostitution in Germany is legal. Pimping is not. Some foreign women, no doubt, arrive in Germany via dubious means. Others are local and simply trying to meet a financial objective. There has been a large influx of Romanian and Bulgarian women lately.
20) [b]How does one test for chemistry with an individual chick? [/b]
It is usually not a good idea upon entering a club to pick the first attractive woman you see. As a rule, it is best to sit and observe for an hour before making your choice. The best women are usually fully booked and may not be in the contact room when you arrive. Take notes as to which ones are constantly booked. Also observe how each woman interacts with her clients. Her actions on the couch are a good indication of her services. Chances are that if she doesn’t kiss on the couch, she also doesn’t kiss in the room, z. B.
Time her sessions. Its not a fool proof indication that she provides good services but if her sessions consistently last only fifteen minutes, she is probably processing clients, not really spending quality time with them.
Watch to see how her interaction with clients as they leave the room. Does he have a huge smile on his face? What does his and her body language say? If you really want to know, go over and talk to the dude.
If you smile at her and she smiles back it is a good sign she wants to session with you. If during a preliminary conversation you can make her laugh and you find her funny, you will probably have a good time together.
Simply wanting to have a conversation with her shouldn’t cost you anything, by the way. However, don’t sit too close to her or make any contact until you’ve decided you want to spend time with her in the room.
21) [b]Where can I find a list of German abbreviations? [/b]
This doesn’t exist as of yet.
22) [b]Should I mention that I post on the ISG? [/b]
This isn’t a good idea. The women, though, are probably more concerned with RF posters. The occasional tourist posting about them isn’t going to get as much press as compared to a posting done by a local guest in German on the local forum.
23) [b]How will I know if I’ve been scammed? What are typical scams? [/b]
Your typical dispute with her will revolve around a) how much time was actually spent together, b) what services were performed or not performed.
If you want to avoid problems with time, bring a watch with you and make subtle reference to it when you enter the room. The problem is that if you have booked yourself with a non-clock watcher, you may inadvertently turn her into one this way. If she is not a processor and your chemistry is right, she will bend the rules a lot. If she is a processor, she will charge you for a full hour if you session goes even a minute beyond thirty minutes.
More insidious is the “running up the clock” scam where she tries to extend the session so she can charge for the overtime.
Disputes over which services were performed or not performed are trickier. Make sure you have had a discussion with her about extras before going down that road. Bring the matter to the attention of the staff if you strongly feel you have been taken advantage of.
24) [b]Are there any forbidden topics I shouldn’t bring up with the women? [/b]
The women, as a rule, don’t like to talk about their private lives: where they live, if they have boyfriends or husbands, why they do this for a living. If she does start talking about these matters, that is another matter.
If there is something she doesn’t like to do, by the way, it would be best to stop it just so as not to spoil the mood.
Where can I find a list of German abbreviations?
Here's is an unofficial list that I have gathered from various sources. Feel free to amend or integrate:
AB = Adultbabies
AO = alles ohne (Kondom, auch GV)
ASa = Analspiele aktiv
ASp = Analspiele passiv
AST = After-Sex-Talk (Nachgespräch)
AV = Analverkehr
Bade = Badespiele
BC = Bordellcommunity
Begl = Begleitung
Bi = Bisexuell
BiFi = BilligFicker
Bond = Bondage
BSS = Bonner Straßenstrich
Dom = Dominant
DS = Dildospiele
DT = Deep Throat
DV = Dolce Vita, Düsseldorf
EC = Eroscenter
EL = Eierlecken
Erz = Erziehung
F = Französisch
FA = Fingeranal
FAa = Faustanal Aktiv
FAp = Fautanal Passiv
FE = Fußerotik
FEE = Für Einsteiger Empfehlenswert
FF = Faustfick oder Fußfetisch
FO = französisch ohne Gummi
Foto = Fotofreundlich
Fp = Lecken
FRZ = französisch
FS = Fesselspiele
FT = französisch total (Mundaufnahme mit/ohne Schlucken)
GB = Gesichtsbesamung oder Gang Bang
GF6 = Girlfriendsex (Sex wie mit der eigenen Freundin)
GV = Geschlechtsverkehr
HE = Handentspannung
HG = HeavensGate, Dorsten
HH = Hausbesuche
HM = Hodenmassage
HP = Homepage
IR = IllusionsRealisation
KB = Körperbesamung
KFI = Keine finanziellen Interessen (wer´s glaubt... )
KSS = Kölner Straßenstrich
KV = Kaviar
LuL = Lack & Leder
Miller = Tittenfick
MuF = Muschifingern
NS = Natursekt
NSa = NS aktiv
NSmA = NS mit Aufnahme
NSp = NS Passiv
ÖM = Ölmassage
OV = Oralverkehr
OW = Oberweite
PHG = Planet Happy Garden
PST = Pre-Sex-Talk (Vorgespräch)
PT = Partytreff, manchmal auch Partnertausch
Reise = Urlaubsbegleitung
RO = ReadOnly (=Nurleser)
RS = Rollenspiele
RTC = Rote-Teppich-Clubs, Ruhrgebiet
SM = Sado/Maso
Spa = Spanisch
SpZK = Spezial oder Sperma ZK
SS = Spucke
SS = Straßenstrich
Strip = Striptease
SÜD = Samenüberdruck
TA = TopAct
Telesex = Telefonsex
TF = Tittenfick
TS = Transsexuelle
VB = Verkehrsberichte
Verbal = Verbalerotik
ZA = Zungenanal
ZK = Zungenküsse
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