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Made my first KTV visit here in HK. Cantonese speaking buddy is in town, so felt more comfortable making the trip. So here's the run down:

Room fee: 500HKD per person, per hour. I think that the minimum is 1 hour (and round up to the next hour). We stuck around for 2 hours. This is a significant bonus compared to the KTVs I've been to in Taiwan and China. Where there was a minimum 3 hours. Maybe it was due to the type of place I went to (higher end). Dunno, but anyway, it was nice being able to stay only as long as you like.

Description of the place: We were actually approached by a tout on the street. Was cool with it since we were planning to head in anyway. Not sure if this had any impact on the pricing (maybe she gave a lower price to convince us to go in? Seem to remember prior posts stating a higher price). Once inside, there's a large open area/lounge area. Mostly occupied by the KTV girls. Overall, more of a "traditional Chinese" decor. Other places I've been to have tended to be more simple, "modern" decor. This one was done up with all that intricate Chinese patterning (don't particularly care for it, even though I'm Chinese). Anyway, ushered into the room, once inside, had that familiar, musty KTV smell (I love that smell)

The Process: Inside the room, we were first greeted by the manager. Didn't really understand what he was his purpose and what he was saying as I don't speak Cantonese and wasn't interested enough to ask my buddy. Next, the mamasan comes in. My buddy explained our desires (I wanted a Mandarin or English speaker. Assuming that I would get a Mandarin speaker). Mommy comes back with a Cantonese girl for my buddy. A little later, she brings a lineup of 6 girls for me to choose from. Picked a cutie from Harbing (at least that what she told me. Her Cantonese sounded pretty fluent to my untrained ear). Started chatting and she was very enthusiastic from the get go. Eventually, my buddy asked to change girls, since his Cantonese girl didn't speak any Mandarin and figured that if he had one who spoke both, would be more fun for all. Mommy comes back with one girl for him. At this point, I realized something. I got a lineup cause I mentioned that I may or may not take the girl out (which was true. Getting laid wasn't my primary goal during this trip), whereas my buddy said that he was definitely not taking a girl out (had his personal reasons). Guess that the objective for most of the girls is to convince the customer to take them out. Assuming that the dude isn't a jerk or smells really bad.

Note 1: My girl was a little annoying at first (kept laughing at everything that I said. Which is sort of a turn off for me) and was leaning toward not taking her out. What changed my mind was that she basically let me grab and feel her up inside the room (this is not always the case in some other places I've been to). DFK in the room was cool too. With the GFE. And with all of the mechanical 141 girls I've been with recently, couldn't resist. Plus, she had really nice skin and sang very well. Wasn't too shabby in the looks or body department either.

Note 2: During a restroom trip, discovered that the outer, lounge area was now populated with punters as well. I think that I'll have to ask about this option next time. I didn't realize that you didn't HAVE to get a room but could just hang around outside. Also with female companionship.

The exit: bill ran 2500 for the both of us. 500 per person per hour (2 hours, 2 people = 4 x 500). The extra 500 was the "takeout" charge that goes to the house. My buddy tipped his girl 100 and I tipped the mommy 200 (hey, gotta show some respect if you ever wanna go back). The takeout charge for the girl (which I would pay afterwards) was 1500.

Outside the KTV: grabbed a cab over to Kimberly Hotel (just next to Champagne Court 141). Hotel ran 280.

The Session: Was a REALLY nice session. No rush, chatted for a while, watched some TV. Showered (separately) and then hopped into bed where we had a little more small talk. Once the action started. Put my finger in the pokey first to make her come. I'm sure that there are girls who can fake this pretty well, I usually go off the muscle contractions to see if its for real or not. Obviously this can be faked as well, but as long as I think it's real, then it must be real. Entered her Mish, switched to Lotus and finished back in Mish. Kept grinding after I was finished (and I had made it pretty clear that I was finished). So I suppose that she enjoyed it as well.

Afterwards just laid in bed for a half hour or so. Had to go to work the next day (it was now 1: 30am) so dressed and got ready to leave. Was strange. This was honestly the first time that I had forgotten to pay the girl. Of course, she reminded me LOL.

Conclusion: Would I go back? I suppose so. Cause I do enjoy the whole KTV process, and the fact that I can go for just 1hr or go for 2 or 3hrs is a big bonus. She gave me her number and noted that if I called her directly, then it would be cheaper, and I would save the KTV fees (though I didn't ask her how much cheaper). Another way to think about it is that I spent a little extra for the KTV stuff, but was able to build a repoire and now can get the girl for a little less than 1500. If I get it down to 1200 or so, then that would be just slightly more than the hotel reservation 141 types. But MUCH better GFE than those hotel reservation girls and I would say comparable in the looks/body department.

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[QUOTE=RCA Knight]I used the 141 hotel reservation a few times last week. Most times went smoothly and one time I ran into some trick.

Another note is that it is difficult to book these few Japanese heavenly entities. The pimps seem to introduce them first to their rich and promonent clients. And these elite clients seem to book these heavenly girls for day or even days at a time. So may need a few days in HK in order to fit these girls in your schedule, they are really in high demand in HK.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Haven't run across this trick, but then I've only used the hotel reservation types twice (out of four tries). Have never tried booking one of the Japanese girls (part of the fun for me is speaking Mandarin. As I'm only semi fluent, and use these opportunities to learn more) though have been very tempted, the pics are outstanding. I've noticed that there have been quite a few new ones recently.

On a side note. A buddy took me to this "talking bar" in Taiwan. The girls were all Taiwanese, but the place catered to Japanese clientele. They were all dressed in school girl uniforms and I guess that most were able to speak some level of Japanese. There was no "special" afterwards, but was cool since it was something new for me. Cover charge was NTD600 per head, not including alcohol, so not cheap.

Hi, all,

I just finished reading through a good part of this thread. I started from the very first page but after reading like 30 entries, I realized it would be fruitless since it was info from 2002. I skipped to 2005. I read some entries and then I skipped to Jan 2006 and read to the present.

When I made the entry to Ken, I realized he might not be reading this board anymore since a lot of members here are seasonal transients.

When I was reading about the guy who was walking up the stairs and started to comment on the guy in front of him as being ho stealer, I was laughing!

The last/first time I went to HK was 3/06. I went to Sun Hot Spa and it was an excellent experience for me. I monger in the States and that sauna experience was very nice for the price. 589 HKD. I would have to pay $1093 HKD in the states to get the same level of service and ambiance AND there’s no FS on the menu. Only HJ.

I met up with some friends and went to Wanchai. Picked up this philina and paid $1000HKD. Bought her back to my friends room in ShangriLa and we went at. She did the BBBJ, missinary, doggie. I was jet lagged and I couldn’t come as quickly as I liked. I’d take a break and hang out in the shower getting rained on by hot water. She’d come and join me and give me a blowjob right there in the shower. She wanted me to come. I ended up throwing her on top of the sink counter and pounded away till I came. I tipped her $200 and sent her on her merry way.

I was only in HK for a couple of days. I spent the rest of my trip in SZ.

I’m comin back in March and I wanted to be prepared. I scoured the net looking for a forum like this. I’m a member of other local forums so I figured something like this had to exist for HK. Thanks Jackson!

I’m definitely hitting Sun Hot Sauna again. But I’m going to visit the 141/161 girls. When I found these websites, I was so intrigued that there were pictures of the locations to assist you in finding these places. I was scratching my head like WTF this doesn’t happen here. I confirmed with a buddy of mine and it’s legal for a one chick operation. So the next step was how do I go about it.

Thanks to everyone’s contribution, I know what to expect. Pick a building with a lot of chicks and do some walking. I’m sort of "shy" cause I don’t want anyone to know my business, but then I began to realize wtf. I’m in another country and I’m going to be in buildings where other mongers will also be hunting so what the heck.

Cause here in the states. If a spot gets too much traffic. People notice. With the advent of videocameras. The last thing I need is a pissed off neighbor with a video camera taping the traffic to and from the girls place. But since it’s legal in HK, My fears are dispelled.

So I’m going to be in HK first week on March, anyone else going to be in town?

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Hi everyone,

I'm heading to HK for the first time in May, and I've learned so much information from this forum. Thanks to everyone who contributes here!

I've been reading with interest about short-time 141 and 161 girls and I plan on partaking when I'm there. But I do have two questions that I have not found information on here in the forum.

1. On the 161 website, you can sort the girls by the nature of the acts they will perform. I see there is one listed named "comfortology". I'm a pretty knowlegable guy, but have never heard that term before. Can anyone provide a definition?

2. Of the men who have been to 141 flats, have a sizable percentage of the women rejected you (most likely because you're caucasian)? If a majority of the women there tend to reject caucasian men, I think I'll just skip the 141 flats and head to the saunas.

I'm a late 40's caucasian man, average height, weight, and decent looking on the 1-10 scale, but that still didn't keep me from being rejected by a few of the smoking hot chinese ladies working the streets in Singapore's Geylang area.

Thanks in advance!

Hi Neuro,

Thanks for the info..

I'm visiting friends/family and business associates. I got buddies whom I'm traveling with stayin at the four seasons in hk and I got my client's stayin at the shangri la. I wanted to see if it would make sense to stay near the client in TST or in HK near my friends. I'm thinkin stay in kowloon side until my clients leave for China and then book in HK for the remaining times.

Since the taxi cab isn't expensive it wouldn't really matter where I stay.

You still going to around beginning of March ?

[QUOTE=Neuromancer]Taxi should run about 80HKD. It depending where in HK Island you're at. The cross harbor fee is 20HKD, so the actual fare will be around 60HKD or so.

If you're on HK Island side though, why not just play on the island? I've realized that the prices aren't THAT dramatically different, esp. between HK Island and TST. 141 girls in TST seem to run about 500-600 whereas Causeway Bay runs 380-500. Difference though is that those TST girls at 500-600 will also give you a massage.

Saunas - Carnival in North Point is 1100+, while Sun Hot is 900+

Of course, if you head over to Mong Kok, prices drop significantly... (ie. Dundas, KP, yellow/pink sign brothels)[/QUOTE]

Gents,

I will be briefly in HK on 19th Feb. Is there likely to be any action or will most of the 141 etc, chinese girls have gone home for the New Year?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Hkbr43]John Smart / Nugent,

I tried Lily Massage today. I couldn't get even a HJ. I am sure I went to the right place. Inside Lily there are 2 rooms - one on the left has 4 beds and there's another room on the right. There's a sofa and a desk by the entrance. Was I unlucky? Was it the particular girl I had? Was it because I am a local (fear of undercover cops??). Do you need to tell the mamasan what you want at the beginning?

On the way out I did see some other "massage" girls that had more potential to give extras.

Your advice would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Anybody knows of other quick relief places near Central? I try to steer clear of 141 places in this area because of the low quality.[/QUOTE]I don't know why you didn't get service -- it's pretty obviously not a real massage joint. Did you feel the girl up? That usually sends the right signal. You shouldn't have to come right out and say it, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to tell the woman up front that you want "good service" (as opposed to "good massage" -- these are definitely not trained masseuses). But actions speak louder than words: plant a hand on her ass as she walks you into the room, strip down, cop a feel during the "massage" and you should get results. Sorry you didn't get any action. Massage alone is certainly not worth HKD220. Hope you didn't tip!!!

There are a few massage joints on Wing Kut street -- Joy Global is one (actually it has two names, and two signs, at two different entrances but it's the same place). That one is HKD200 plus tip. I got bj and fs there, tipped 100. Try them out, and be sure to feel the girl up. You'll get the results you want.

There's a 141 girl on Wing Lok street, GiGi, you'll find her on the 141 site. She gives good massages and of course, full sex with major rimming. HKD400 and you get a massage after sex. You may need to ask for it but it's worthwhile. Works out of a decent flat, unlike most 141 girls. She's a little older but gives good service. One of my regular providers.

Let us know how you do.

[QUOTE=Chillin]Hi Neuro,

Thanks for the info..

I'm visiting friends/family and business associates. I got buddies whom I'm traveling with stayin at the four seasons in hk and I got my client's stayin at the shangri la. I wanted to see if it would make sense to stay near the client in TST or in HK near my friends. I'm thinkin stay in kowloon side until my clients leave for China and then book in HK for the remaining times.

Since the taxi cab isn't expensive it wouldn't really matter where I stay.

You still going to around beginning of March ?[/QUOTE]From the Four Seasons, it might be faster taking the Star Ferry (not sure where the Shangri La is) depending on what time of day you're crossing over. During regular business hours (or during the daytime on weekends for that matter), wouldn't recommend a taxi. Late at night is no problem though.

Yeah - likely still around in March, unless I decide to take a weekend trip somewhere.

[QUOTE=Keen Eye Joe]2. Of the men who have been to 141 flats, have a sizable percentage of the women rejected you (most likely because you're caucasian)? If a majority of the women there tend to reject caucasian men, I think I'll just skip the 141 flats and head to the saunas.[/QUOTE]I've been to a ton of 141 flats and have never been rejected -- I've never seen or heard of anyone getting rejected. The only problem I've ever seen was from the phone reservation places that don't take English-speakers. That may have more to do with the language skills of the phone workers than the preferences of the girls themselves.

For the 141 flats, you'll have no problems.

Enjoy. And please report.

Question for all:

I've been checking out the 141/161 websites and the selections are plentiful. I was wondering do I have to worry about getting jacked in any of these buildings.

Are these buildings in ok neighborhoods?

[QUOTE=Nugent 134]I've been to a ton of 141 flats and have never been rejected -- I've never seen or heard of anyone getting rejected. The only problem I've ever seen was from the phone reservation places that don't take English-speakers. That may have more to do with the language skills of the phone workers than the preferences of the girls themselves.

For the 141 flats, you'll have no problems.

Enjoy. And please report.[/QUOTE]Nugent,

All (or atleast 99%) of the 141 rooms have CCTV, so if the girl doesn't want to service a customer, she just won't open the door. Of course, with the hotel reservation types, they can't visually screen you ahead of time, thus the language screening. SOME of the girls will screen based on race. And I guess that the biases feed upon each other when they get together and talk. But then, if she does take your appointment, there should be no further problem. Also, I've found saunas to be more non-Chinese friendly. As I seem to encounter Caucasians more frequently there. Actually, can't recall running into any Caucasions in the 141 buildings. I suppose they're all hanging out over in Wan Chai. LOL

Chillin,

Not sure if there is a really "bad area" of town in HK. In a sense, some of the richer areas I guess would be a little more dangerous. In that the target's are more lucrative (have heard a few stories of home break-ins from undesireables from up north). And I'm sure that there are parts of HK where there's a higher level of gang activity targeting locals. But seems like the gangs are more into bootlegged DVDs, and the drug activity seems to be centered around night clubs that teenagers frequent.

That said, the 141 buildings certainly LOOK very run down, and the first time you visit, you may get the feeling like you're heading into a seedy drug den or something of that sort. But aside from elevators which are in dire need of upgrading, the buildings are pretty safe. I had asked one of the girls about security. She mentioned that in a building with many providers (like Hop Yee or Fuji), there's no security dude since there are so many girls. Ie. Power in numbers. For buildings which only have one or two providers, she will normally have some protection not too far away. Honestly I think that the security concerns are greater on the girls part than it is for the guy. I generally don't bring a ton of cash or valuables with me but don't go through excessive measures to go empty handed either. I've never had a problem with rip-offs.

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Nugent. Just ignore HK Dog the only time he ever comments on the HK Boards to say that everyone should pay higher prices. Never about what places are good to go and ladies are good to see.

Plus some people just feel better if they pay more - they think that the more they pay the "higher" quality of good they are getting. You can walk into a jeweler in Hong Kong and pay the $80,000 sticker price for the Rolex or you can negotiate with store and pay $65,000 for the same watch. Some people feel good about being able to go in and plop the higher amount down, others put in a little effort.

There was one smoking hot Thai lady here around a year ago I was friendly with (and always gave her $800) who always said she would never take less than $1,500 to people in Neptune (and she would sometimes get it) and once manged to get $7,800 (US$1,000) from some dumb American tourist. The ladies aren't stupid and if you are a semi-regular they will always ask their friends in the bar about you. So be nice and be consistent in your paying and you should be fine.

[QUOTE=Nugent 134]If there are only 1 or 2 girls in all of the Wan Chai nightclub and bar scene that float your boat, I guess we have somewhat different perspectives.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chillin]Question for all:

I've been checking out the 141/161 websites and the selections are plentiful. I was wondering do I have to worry about getting jacked in any of these buildings.

Are these buildings in ok neighborhoods?[/QUOTE]Never had even the hint of a problem. HK is extremely safe. Lots of 141 buildings are sorta dodgy, but the toughest parts of Mong Kok, Prince Edward, etc, are fine. Don't be stupid (like flashing wads of cash on the street) and you'll do fine. Report your experiences please.

[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]Nugent. Just ignore HK Dog the only time he ever comments on the HK Boards to say that everyone should pay higher prices. Never about what places are good to go and ladies are good to see.[/QUOTE]Thanks Hunter,

I figured that was the case. Even if you take what this guy says as fact (that there are 1 or 2 girls that won't take less than 1500 ST and get it several times every night), that means if you pay more for any of the other several hundred girls in Wanchai on any given night, you're overpaying. I've found your posts on the topic to be enlightening. As a result, I'm enjoying the Wanchai scene a great deal. In addition to going out "shopping" when I feel like it, I've also built up a stable of regulars I can call at any time for dynamite sex delivered to my door. I love HK!!! Thanks again for your posts.

[QUOTE=Nugent 134]Never had even the hint of a problem. HK is extremely safe. Lots of 141 buildings are sorta dodgy, but the toughest parts of Mong Kok, Prince Edward, etc, are fine. Don't be stupid (like flashing wads of cash on the street) and you'll do fine. Report your experiences please.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice Nugent.

If you're not busy maybe we can go and grab a drink at Fenwicks or sumthin.