Santo Domingo

[QUOTE=Nixonbd]....... There is one cool kid, name of Johnathan, who cleans tennis shoes really awesome on El Conde (usually across from or in vacinity of the Mecure Hotel), say 20 years old, who is a decent English speaking kid who says he has 18-20 y.o. "girlfriends", lol. Last I was there, a little under two years ago, he was hoping to land a hotel gig, which is middle class down there! [/QUOTE]Yeah Jonathan is a cool enough kid, actually about 24 years old and he speaks I think 4 or 5 languages. He is different because although he hustles (which as you indicated they all seem to) he at least provides a service (cleaning of the shoes). I have only allowed him to clean my shoes a couple of times, but I have bought him a few meals if I see him and I am at Pacos.

[QUOTE=Knowledge] By the way, I have it on very good authority that more than a few of the "official tourist guides" who work the Colonial Zone are deportees with criminal records.
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Be aware, be very aware.[/QUOTE]
Now I understand... it was my 1st time/1st day in SDQ, and i thought the guy who "stuck" to me in the Colonial Zone was just an average hustler with good english. He said he lived in Buffalo for 12 years, but had to leave because he had to pay alimony to 3 different women. Thin black dude, in mid-late 40s. Was wearing construction-type boots. I know it was stupid not to tell him to f**k off more forcefully from the very beginning. After saying "you pay me what you think is fair" for better part of 2 hours, he demanded $50 for his services. I told him he wouldn't make $50 after tax if he was a guide in the USA, let alone DR, but he persisted. Well, during the "tour" of the Zona I bought a couple of machetes and luckily found another shop where I had them sharpened.
So, the guy wanted $50, but I had 2 freshly sharpened "attitude adjustment devices." Don't know for sure, but that may have helped me to negotiate the "price" down to $20 and a few pesos....e I DO think $20-25 was a fair price for the services rendered.

Mental note for the next trip to DR: Tell every english-speaking "helper" to F**k off and insist that they do.


--Lucky Strike--

There is a detailed GOOGLE map posted on this site and absolutely no need for a tout/tourguide, around the CZ or Gazgue, they will increase your price at any of the casas.

If you need to use a taxi to go on a casa run, get dropped off a block away, this saves the commission that you pay the taxi out of what they charge you.

Lucky -You did well with this idiot from Buffalo, but seriously who cares about his life story, he is probably a crackhead as well, STAY away from these deportees, do not engage with anyone that speaks English!

[QUOTE=Buscemi]do not engage with anyone that speaks English! [/QUOTE]That is a little extreme isn't it? I agree with the part about the touts don't need them for the most part and a waste of time and money. But you will also find ex-pats, or some Dominicans who have learned the language through hard work (study), and aren't interested in ripping you off; etc. Who happen to live down there, I being one of them, and to say to stay away simply because someone speaks english, you may be giving the wrong impression. I for one have steered many in the correct direction on a variety of different topics, now if someone read what you said, and avoided me simply by virtue that I speak english, they would suffer not I, and there are many more like me.

The best advice is to treat everyone with some caution, until you can check them out and see what they are about, but that is common sense and should be utilized no matter where you are not just in the D.R.

I have met a bunch of chicas on the online dating sites. Some are pros, some are semi-pros and some are normal. What I have learned is that some of these chicas are not honest with the age they post on their profile on the sites. Some of the chicas on the dating sites are looking for a quick easy dollar from some foreign guy (maybe some of them are encouraged to do so, by their english speaking ex felon thug boyfriend).

I try to get to know the chicas, by chatting with them in messenger, before I invite them out for drinks. Chicas, that I have invited out for drinks, I will ask to see their cedula (government issued identification card). I have encountered a few who said that their cedula was stolen and they have shown me some non government issued identification card.

My absolute new rule is that I will not have drinks with any chica that does not have a government issued I.D. (cedula). I will not trust a chica that presents a non government issued Identification card.

I have no clue about whether fraudulent cedulas exist here and no clue about the prevalence of fraudulent non-government issued I.D. cards. The chicas who I want to spend time with, have to be, aged 18 and above. I have no desire to have drinks with a 17 year, who claims to be 19, and who has a non governmental issued I.D. card that says she is 19, and possibly during the course of the evening have an encounter with some thug who speaks english who says why I am having drinks with a 17 year old.

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[QUOTE=Babelicious]That is a little extreme isn't it?[/QUOTE]Dominican and Haitian men serve no purpose. All they want is your money, so stay away from them.

-Helpmann :)

I seemed to have struck a nerve, do you sell real estate?

[QUOTE=Babelicious]That is a little extreme isn't it? [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Buscemi]I seemed to have struck a nerve, do you sell real estate?[/QUOTE]I think people just need to be cautious no matter where they are. Use common sense and there should be no problem.

I'm a Dominican that lives in the states. I travel To DR about 4 times a year and I always try to give my advice to my fellow mongers in person or on the boards.

So according to what you said people should also stay away from guys like me?

Should people use caution? yes, but lets not generalize

OK, Listen, you all know exactly who I was referring to earlier, I am referring to the slime ball deportees that comb el Conde looking for their next victim offering tours and overpriced chicas. I am sure you all know "Miguel"!

Another shady fellow poses as a Gulf War veteran with a printout of his flight itinerary and "just needs $20" to get to SDQ, he only preys on Americans, he has had this scam going on for years.

I apologize to anybody personally offended by my blanket statement earlier, it should have read beware of anybody offering you their services in English, wow some sensitive people here, now can we please move on to talking 'bout Dominican toto?

[QUOTE=Mani Domi]I think people just need to be cautious no matter where they are. Use common sense and there should be no problem.
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Helpmann,

I have never been to the DR yet, but I'm sure you are right, but it isn't just DR man that are useless, ALL men in other good mongering countries are useless as shit & try to rip-off/steal from sex tourist men.

Thai men are the worst, they are uneducated, hung like budgies/birds & overly jealous of white men.

[QUOTE=Buscemi]I seemed to have struck a nerve, do you sell real estate?[/QUOTE]No, don't sell real estate or anything else, retired and have a very nice pension thank you, but then again that's my point, maybe you wouldn't feel that way, but others who don't know the area, or have never been there, may take something they read here as gospel and of course it isn't, just a guideline to be used with common sense.

Just keep in mind that the most common way a Dominican or Haitian in the DR (male or female) gets fluent in English is to have made it to the US for awhile and gotten deported as a criminal. The easiest way for them to survive in the DR is scamming English speaking tourists. There are middle and upper class Dominicans who learn English in school and get tourist or business visas to the US but they wouldn't ordinarily have any interest in talking to you. Basically any Dominican who actively wants to talk to you and is fluent in English is probably not someone you want to deal with. It should at least raise a red flag.

[QUOTE=Babelicious]No, don't sell real estate or anything else, retired and have a very nice pension thank you, but then again that's my point, maybe you wouldn't feel that way, but others who don't know the area, or have never been there, may take something they read here as gospel and of course it isn't, just a guideline to be used with common sense.[/QUOTE]

I would probably ignore you if you started talking to me on el Conde, I am in DR to shop for pussy not network with retirees or deportees.

If that offends you, so be it, I guess my apology was not sufficient earlier.

I have been with some girls in El Conde and Jaragua with cedulas who later told me that their id's were fake and their age is not what they say. "Later" is when I came back to my country. I know the age for consent for sex in DR was 14 a few years ago, I don't know if this is the age right know but to play it safe it is the best to be with adults. My best experiences were with 21 to 25 yr girls, still young, more experienced and mature.

I have met with chicas from internet too, I msn, emailed and talked by phone with them before deciding to meet them.



[QUOTE=Jaosousa]I have met a bunch of chicas on the online dating sites. Some are pros, some are semi-pros and some are normal. What I have learned is that some of these chicas are not honest with the age they post on their profile on the sites.


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I saw a few guys, maybe europeans or north americans flashing thousands of pesos in front of everybody in El Conde. It is not of common sense to do that. I usually have a petty cash on one pocket and an another ammount just in case I need it in another pocket. Best thing for me is to to use cargo pants with zippered pockets to avoid flashing a lot of money in public places.

I never talk to any guy from the street, when they see me and begin talking in different languages: " Hello sir...." "Hola habla espanol..." "como vai..." I say "Yo soy dominicano tu oye" ("I am dominican" with a dominican accent and phrasing") and they always leave me alone. I am puertorican but no one asked if I was boricua or puertorican on my last trip. I have learned a lot from 11 years of traveling to this country, and from my dominican sister in law, and I am still learning.




[QUOTE=Bq Ribs]I don't doubt you as I know every word you wrote is true. I often see "gringos" hanging out with these "helpful" English speaking Dominicanos and just handing over money hand over fist. I just shake my head.

Sit at Pacos Restaurante long enough and you will pretty much be able to tell who is who.

The funny one is when they pull out this wrinkled up buisness card from Girls House like it is a big secret and ask "you want chica"?[/QUOTE]